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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruw9fsh3PNY	/r/videos/comments/qya7yj/my_wife_almost_died_today_of_an_unfortunate/	[ "I nearly lost my cat in a confusion at the ATM. Please be careful.", "I accidentally dropped my active chainsaw down the stairs. It could have hit someone.", "I almost didn't know if I had a decent table, but I did, and relief washed over me in a awesome wave. Please tip your maître d'." ]	4	videos	My wife almost died today of an unfortunate accident. Please learn how properly use an axe.
https://youtu.be/2sFrG02xpAw	/r/videos/comments/qyb1lk/the_decline_of_gaming_this_is_why_triple_a_games/	[ "Parents couldn’t afford to buy video games when I was a kid, and so I’d just play at friends houses. I desperately wanted a PlayStation or a N64 but we couldn’t pay for them.\n\nNow I have a Series X and a PS5. Maybe it’s just part of growing up, but video games feel like a huge time investment and most of them are terrible. The “AAA” titles are actually the worst. I look for indie games instead on Game Pass.", "I think a lot of it is just growing up. Computer games have always been a big time sink, but adults have less time than children/teenagers. \n\nI remember the days of getting really excited about buying a game, I used to day dream about it and do tons of research before buying it. I can't remember the last time I got excited about a game as an adult, and I think thats because I've got older.", "I give some props to “undead labs”\n\nAlthough they released “State of Decay 2” with a few bugs, they have some 26 updates, most of which were add on features for free. They also offered a few pay add ins for only $5 and then made those free after a year as well. A great dev team who listen to feedback from their players", "The decline of my free time means I no longer want to play BLOPS and watch my character get headshotted over and over by some kid named BallsNWeiners69.\nChrist I miss games with a good online coop campaign." ]	4	videos	The Decline of Gaming - This is why Triple A games have been disappointing recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IRbQUrlvv0	/r/videos/comments/qyb52y/rockstar_responds_to_definitive_edition_failure/	[ "Stop preordereding games you cock suckers.", "But but but I save 5 dollars and I get cool skins that don't matter!", "This guy is wearing headphones from 2003", "Lmao", "Again no one is surprised", "Those the ones you get for free on the airplane", "Yep. I have zero sympathy for anyone who doesn't wait for qualified reviews before they buy. Get fucked, morons!", "Why not post an official link to the response instead of some guy reading it for 10 minutes?", "The response is days old, the video is commentary. The response is on rockstar's website.", "[What Made You Buy Those Headphones?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95hftrUFIOY)", "The whole point of the post is the commentary about what a shitty apology it is, what purpose would linking directly to that serve?", "It was another studio owned by take 2 which was recently renamed to Grove Street Games.", "Since I hadn't read it I looked it up. [Here you go.](https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/393o373751k48k/a-note-from-the-rockstar-games-team-re-grand-theft-auto-the-trilogy-th)", "Rockstar's intent was obvious when they didn't let reviewers have access to review copies before release.", "Pre order bonuses should be illegal imo.", "Grove Street Games is not owned by Take Two. They're a private, indie studio\n\nhttps://gamerant.com/grand-theft-auto-trilogy-grove-street-games-developer-history-rockstar/\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_Street_Games\n\nhttps://grovestreetgames.com/about-us/", "Desktop version of /u/BeatsLikeWenckebach's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_Street_Games>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Huh shit someone finally threw together an English wikipedia page for them.", "I'd rather just read the response myself and not listen to this guy state the obvious.", "[He seems to have answered that question](https://youtu.be/K1k0gNXYWsg?t=527) a few [times](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeLxZ64m2PQ).", "Are we sick of this shit yet? Like sick enough of it to stop buying trash?", "You guys make fun of him but I guarantee you, those will sound better than 99 percent of \"gaming\" headphones with flashy styles and rgb lighting.\n\nI respect the dude for sticking to good sounding headphones eventhough they might look a little goofy\n\nKoss KSC75 for those who want to try them for themselves. You actually can't go wrong with that price tag", "Were my expectations just really fucking low? I’ve been playing San Andreas and vice city on ps4 and it’s been great. Way better than how they originally looked…No game-breaking issues on my end…and it does rain? Lol I don’t get what people expected? Gta5 quality world and characters on a 20 year old game? Wouldn’t that take many years to create?", "No.", "As a 35 year old lifelong gamer, the way things have been going these past few years I'm seriously considering just finding a new hobby", "Friend of mine uses that type cause she has really small ears and ear canals so the usual ones aren't a good fit and hurt in her words.", "Then title should be \"Some guy reads Rockstar's days old apology\"." ]	27	videos	Rockstar Responds To Definitive Edition Failure - Decides To Lie and Play Victim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBzEK82nGuI	/r/videos/comments/qybm9h/evil_willow/	[ "Evil willow was hottest willow tbh", "She do exert more power when black haired. Stay dark Allison!", "I think it was mainly her attitude. She was a lot more confident and assertive. Plus the dark hair hahaa", "Yeah, the attitude changed, to what perhaps what was an inner thought.", "Was anyone else hoping to see Warwick Davis just wrecking shit?" ]	5	videos	Evil Willow
https://youtu.be/3NzgMqIbZc8	/r/videos/comments/qybvpj/man_has_1_million_dollars_in_student_loan_debt/	[ "That’s crazy .", "Did he go through orthodontist school like 3 times?", "Dude was definitely buying options in $GME with his student loans.", "Seriously, I don't understand how it's even possible to get $1 million in student loans.", "if i were him i'd never leave school & just keep taking loans. keep them all in deferment. maybe get a govt job for 5 years.", "I know here in the UK we see £9k a year extortionate for university and it is. But then across the pond, you hear these stories and actually in the grand scheme of things, it’s not that bad.", "He should pick up electrical or plumbing skills to pay off those loans in a hurry.", "I live in the US and I've never heard of such a thing as $1m in student loan debt.\n\nThe numbers for average student loan debt seem to vary from source to source. They also vary based on how we look at overall averages (mean or median); recent graduates vs. all debtors; bachelor's degree vs. higher degree, etc. \n\nSo that said, it seems as though the average student loan debt in the US for recent graduates is about [$30,000](https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/see-how-student-loan-borrowing-has-risen-in-10-years), while the average student loan debt in the UK for recent graduates is [£45,000](https://www.statista.com/statistics/376423/uk-student-loan-debt/).\n\nI'm sure those numbers could be tweaked one way or the other. But even so, I'd be careful about listening to too many of those across-the-pond horror stories.", "Man, it's good to be European.", "Perpetual students with easy access to terrible loans.", "Why do student loans charge interest bruh", "smh bad advice", "Boys family is gonna be eating beans and rice for generations to come", "Why? Because people keep taking out student loans. \n\nWhy? Because kids don’t know better and their parents push them to because they went to college. They think this is the only way to be successful. \n\nStudent loans in the US usually have a higher APR than auto loans, a mortgage, and personal loans.", "Leave the country and start again. \n\nIt’s what a business would do.", "Except the top pay for an Ortho in Europe doesn't even match the average pay for an Ortho in the US. A junior in the US will make more than your most respected doctors. \n\nThis person was an idiot and took loans they didn't need. For anyone else, they're far better off in the United States. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n[https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orthodontist/united-states](https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orthodontist/united-states)\n\n[https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orthodontist/germany](https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orthodontist/germany)\n\n[https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orthodontist/france](https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orthodontist/france)", "I cannot take this seriously, a million dollars in student loan debt... HOW?\n\nI cannot think of any school that could rack that amount. I also cannot imagine one or even multiple entities loaning so much without red flags going off. The only conclusion that it is fake and people just buy into that because its in the realm of possibility.", "He should take as many loans as possible, gather the money, fly to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty, live well, don't come back.", "I call bs. Unless he borrowed money at the worst possible rates with an unreasonable timeline to repay, for example a $1mil loan at 10yrs with 6% APR only generates $5,000 in interest a month with a monthly payment due of ~$11,000.\n\nAlthough it could be possible since he was dumb enough to borrow $1mil for school to start with, although I can’t see any lender ever extending that amount of credit to a student with no assets or income.", "That's part of the reason US healthcare is so expensive.", "I'd rather graduate without being $1m in debt.", "Don't have kids", "If the interest were $69,420/year, it would round to $5,800/month, so it's possible it's just a troll that's good at telling a story while keeping a straight face.\n\nThat said, a source I found online [here](https://thekeendentist.com/costs-million-dollars-become-orthodontist/) suggests it costs more than a million dollars to become an orthodontist. If the dude got loans for all of that, it might actually be plausible.", "If so he would be very wealth\n\nVideo is from. November 6, 2019\n\nGME was $5 a share. Now is 45x higher", "In the UK student loans get written off after 25 years, does something like this not happen in the US too?" ]	29	videos	Man has $1 million dollars in student loan debt with 70k a year interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2VC0XXl4cA	/r/videos/comments/qyc761/drawing_making_a_beat_everyday_trying_to_improve/	[ "That's Impressive", "Thanks man!", "You are welcome and You can find me all social platforms Just Search \n\ndmrunubd" ]	3	videos	Drawing + Making a Beat everyday, trying to improve as an artist and producer. Thanks for watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54	/r/videos/comments/qycdnv/natural_gas_companies_are_sponsoring_influencers/	[ "Every time I use my electric cooktop it fills me with sadness", "Electricity can be dirty to generate too. America has shit tons of natural gas. Is gas really a problem? I hate cooking on electric stoves and it's not because of brainwashing. It's just a shit experience to use electric.", "prob use those shitty coils without a glass top. \n\nmakes cleaning up stupid easy. as simple as a wipe down with a sponge. gas burners you got all those cracks and nooks to clean.", "Induction is as fast to heat as gas, with none of the air pollution. Ditch those old ceramic electric hobs or the swirl ones.", "I've used all kinds. It just doesn't conduct heat as well as flame. I agree that clean up is easier though. Here incase you need proof that I'm not alone on this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCulinary/comments/1fhwrd/what\\_are\\_the\\_pros\\_and\\_cons\\_of\\_gas\\_vs\\_electric/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCulinary/comments/1fhwrd/what_are_the_pros_and_cons_of_gas_vs_electric/)\n\nQuit getting butthurt and downvoting me, lol. You're wrong and that's ok.", "my electric range burnt off my seasoning on my cast iron to bare metal under an hour ~ 900 F + easy.", "That's really great for you bro.", "Glad I had gas during the winter freeze", "I have never seen a gas oven in my life, they were phased out in Germany in 1945.\n\nJust kidding, 4% of household still have one because they are old and decrepit.", "Switch to electric so I cant cook anything when my power goes out (which it does for a whole day at least 1-2x a year)? No thanks...", "Not wanting to spend money on a new stove = old and decrepit?", "adam ragusea does a good break down of gas stoves.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcAJ3_-Hou8&\n\nwhile it's true you get instant heat from gas stoves, you're wrong about it conducting heat better.\n\nedit: actually i guess i should clarify, it's not that it conducts heat worse, it's just that your pots and pans have to be lifted above the flame, so the heat spreads out more.", "Stop calling it Natural gas. Just gas. It sounds more sinister.\n\nHitler liked gas, do you?", "If your power has that bad of issues, wouldn’t it be good to invest in a generator?\nSerious question, not meaning to insult.\n\nIf my power went out all the time, its something i would look into.\n\n Heat might be gas and so might your stove, but if your power is out how does your HVAC circulate the heat?", "Get a battery bro", "Yes, it is a problem. Natural gas is a significant emitter of greenhouse gases. And you clearly haven’t used a good electric stove (like induction). They are significantly faster and cleaner. Natural gas stoves pollute your indoor air as well.", "Did you even watch the video?", "Glass top is easier to clean than a coil, I have a coil and hate it. \n\nBut gas stoves are pretty easy to clean. move grill, wipe down surface and grill, replace grill. It's remarkably simple. And gas is at the right temperature immediately and constantly.", "That's why gas stoves have better hoods....", "Because they’re polluting? Yes, you need something that sucks away the pollution, yes. But it doesn’t get all of it (and the greenhouse gas emissions are not stopped at all by the hood)", "Are you saying electricity has to come from somewhere? Somewhere that's probably not very clean? Yeah I don't think reddit wants to believe that.", "I like cooking with fire. Fuck off.", "The only good electric stove is induction. Anything else is pure crap.", "…said no chef ever.", "Standing cooking over a gas stove huffing all that cancer causing byproducts, good tiems.", "if you had watched the video he addressed all these points. classic redditor shit", "Seriously, 2 days out a year you can't not eat cooked meals? or have few packs of MRE with heater packs? or have a small camping stove (gas or alcohol or twigs)? or esbit stove with fire tablets or alcohol gel or . . .? Or small generator? or...\n\n\neesh, my deepest condolences on whatever messed you up this bad.", "Yea man, sorry I didn't watch a 20+ minute video on gas stoves before leaving a comment and putting you in a bad mood. Hopefully you somehow find the courage and strength to enjoy the rest of your day. Me and my entire church will be praying for you. Hopefully god can move mountains and make you feel some sort of peace.", "I've actually used both I agree, a good quality induction stove is MUCH better than gas in terms of quality AND pollution. The problem is that good quality induction stoves are still quite expensive compared to a regular gas stove. On the other hand cheap induction cookers are absolutely SHIT, they adjust their power by turning on and off at regular intervals (i.e 6 seconds full power 5 seconds break and so on) and that fucks up a lot of dishes as they get a sudden burst of energy and get super hot and then slowly cool down and then get super hot again. Until these good induction stoves price comes down I don't see them replacing gas.", "i really hope this is copypasta otherwise... cringe bro", "Go outside and get some fresh air you toxic fuck.", "wrap the tins in aluminum foil. then cleaning is just throwing out the old foil and re wrapping them.", "Your entire existence is cringe, bro.", "Says the guy who searched for my other comments to harass. Yikes.", "There's 39 comments here, dummy. I didn't search your stupidass posts. Sorry you feel harassed. Glad you spoke up. #metoo", "There is literally a professional chef in the video in a kitchen full of induction stoves. They are faster, safer, cleaner.", "Add to that that, along with the incoming era of heatpumps, many places simply don't have the infrastructure required to supply all that power. The best induction cooker I've had the pleasure of working with even required 400 volt 3-phase power, that's not getting into every household over night either.", "all lies", "Nice propaganda by companies looking to sell more products marketed as “green”.\nIt’s like the stares shit, companies have fooled useful idiots in to thinking they’re making a difference by labelling things as “green” or quoting extremely sketchy “research” on environmental benefits.", "Just got an induction stove. It’s the way to go. Just also have to replace have my cookware that wasn’t compatible is there only part that sucks.", "I just switched from electric to gas. Much more energy efficient. I use a negligible amount of ng. The gas stoves are considerably more money to purchase.", "We must also not forget that large part of the world still cooks with firewood and gas stove would be an easy upgrade for them as you can simply give them a gas bottle and a stove and they'll figure it out. This is not so easy with induction.", "Electricity “can” be dirty to generate, but it’s getting cleaner every year as more and more renewable sources come online. That gas stove releases the same amount of co2 into the atmosphere near year as it does this year. One gas stove isn’t a problem. It’s all the gas appliances out there causing the problem.", "I have free NG so my entire house runs on NG. Even still I would still heat my house, water and cook with gas. I live in a rural area. NG is extremely cheap here, far cheaper than electric and far more reliable. We have a very antiquated power grid and oddly enough a brand new and growing NG pipeline grid. \n\nIt sucks massively when you have an all electric house and an ice storm knocks out the power. \n\nBusted pipes are pretty much guaranteed unless you have propane, NG or wood to heat. \n\nA back up generator would also need to be massive to run a heat pump or resistive heater for the home or just to cook. 10-13 KW is the standard and those things drink fuel. Most are NG for the reliability. Its extremely rare for the gas to go out in any part of our region because unlike our poorly maintained power lines that are covered in downed trees, NG is all buried. \n\nI like induction but I have a working gas stove and free gas, I have yet to see any reason to make the switch. I also run my home on a mix of solar and NG generators during the long winter dark days. I would need 40 KW of solar to go all electric and even than I may run into days where I simply can't cook or heat. All of it relying on an inverter that may break. Just my .02 cents. My situation is not typical aside from rural areas having more reliable gas than electric.", "Where do you think your power comes from? It doesn't come from the sky yet. It comes from massive power plants far less efficient than a gas stove.", "These people don't really understand the time ticking for their own lives. Fighting to ensure that they will die at the hands of an insane hellscape. It's cute that they think they are securing themselves with cash.", "I have never met an electric stove I’ve liked. I also happen to have a really fucking nice gas stove with an AWESOME high BTU center 5th burner. Doing steaks and burgers on that with my cast iron flat top is one of the things I enjoy the most about my kitchen. You can pry my gas stove and my cast iron from my cold dead hands.", "An all electric house would require a massive generator. A electric hot water tank takes 3-5 KW of power, so does a hot water tank and heating can be even higher if the back up coils kick in on a heat pump or worse if its a dated home with regular resistive heaters. Your looking at 10-13 KW of generator and that will guzzle fuel and cost a pretty penny.", "I have gas hydronic heat and a gas stove, and live in an area that loses power often enough for a solid third of my neighbors to have automatic standby generators - some Generac salesman probably retired early/bought a boat/both from my neighbors alone. \n\n\nMy plan is battery storage with either smaller pass thru inverters on the vital circuits, or a big inverter feeding everything but the big loads. A standby generator would be a few grand to install. \n\n\nThe circulator pump doesn't take much power at all (like 50-60 watts) and only runs intermittently, I haven't gotten around to it yet but I'm planning to just put it on a cheap UPS (or just an inverter with pass-thru to accomplish the same thing). If you have forced air it takes a lot more power (several hundred watts), so you need a lot more battery/inverter for that. \n\n\nWhen the power is out the gas stove works (but the igniter doesn't), and the oven does not because there's no power to the controls. I haven't looked at how much electrical power it pulls, it's probably not a lot.", "I prefer living somewhere with competent leadership that can ensure that I have functioning infrastructure I can rely on.", "Didn't know that, I assumed it controller the amperage but I guess cheap ones have to find a way to cut corners.", "Unless you are lucky enough to get your electricity from nuclear, everything else is far worse for the environment than cooking with gas. Maybe your power comes from coal or gas, but those still suffer from loss with transmission. Solar and wind power are some of the dirtiest power out there; requiring the use of dangerous chemicals that just wind up in landfills after a few years when they fail.", "All I know is I love my gas range", "Yep much cheaper to stick in a cheap timer rather than a fancy controller. PROTIP: if you have one of those cheap induction cookers get yourself a heavy cast iron skillet, it takes a while to heat but it gives off heat in a much more uniform way", "I think this may be due to PID loops and duty cycles.", "Not sure about the technical bits but the expensive induction seems to actually adjust power in a way a standard electric stove would. But the cheap ones quite obviously come on and off at differing intervals depending on power setting.", "That is isn't not true.", "Love my gas stove and gas heat.", "gas or heat?", "I switched to gas 10 years ago. No interest in going back. Because electricity is generated by burning mostly natural gas, it’s just as dirty if not worse because of the efficiency of the combined cycle systems. This kind of thing hurts US and puts us at a disadvantage to other countries.", "But they addressed every one of those points in the video lol. \n \nIt's almost as if, \"emotional arguments can shape the public narrative even when the facts don't support them.\"", "Maybe that person is lactose intolerant.", "There are also middle ground models where only the lower settings will be on-off.", "My wife insisted we get an electric range. I grew up with gas. The electric range is an absolute piece of shit. I refuse to cook on it.", "My wife got her degree from the Culinary Institute of America. She said pretty much everyone there prefers induction over gas.", "It’s just methane", "build an electric stove that isnt shit to cook with and maybe more people will consider switching. \nevery time i use electric its infuriating. gas is far superior if you are remotely interested in cooking", "Electrification comes with a lot of benefits that building gas pipelines doesn't. And building power lines is easier than building pipelines. But to your point, the strategy of moving environmentally and public health industries into impoverished parts for profit has been working for over a century now.", "He also goes on to say that it wasn't until very recently that tech has caught up and that electric stoves were garbage for a long, long time. So now I have to rip out my perfectly good new gas stove and buy a brand new induction stove.....cool.", "Honestly it’s just so constant. I’m trying my best by recycling and not watering so much, but it’s never enough. Suddenly BIG STOVE is getting their hands dirty, and I’m supposed to drop over 1000 for an induction top that actually works? At the end of the day I just wanna through my hands up. Can’t I just enjoy cooking?", "but running several 6 gauge wires across the house is costly and a big hassle.", "And what black pipe is easier to run across the house?", "doubt", "I have a gas stove and an induction cooktop. I use the induction for any task that requires a pot. \n\nI still like the gas for a lot of tasks, induction is almost useless with a real wok.", "already there since the house was built in the 70s...", "How is gas much more energy efficient? When I was looking into induction stoves vs gas stoves I read gas stoves lose something like 50%-60% energy in transition from gas to heating the pot.", "Every time i see this guys cheeky mug i just have to click", "“Cookin with gas, cookin with gas, we’re all cookin better when we’re cookin with gas!”", "electric stoves pull ~3kw for 1 burner. boiling a pot of pasta is around 1.25kwh, which is about $.31. for natural gas, that might be a nickle.", "None of this is true.", "if your pan has enough mass the intermittent power shouldn't be that big of a problem", "It's just ... that that's exactly how \"standard\" electric stoves do it. Which works fine because there is quite a bit of thermal mass in between the heating coil and your food, which is in contrast to an induction heater where the heat is produced right in the bottom of the pot.", "That really depends on what generates electricity in your area. In Hawaii over 60% comes from oil so natural gas would actually be better.", "I do have a generator but I think it would take a lot of power to heat an electric stove", "Geez you're acting like I just killed a puppy.", "ITT: People who didn't watch the video", "You on payroll too, or just do it because of peer pressure?", "Imagine", "So you’re saying that your local government has failed to provide adequate electrical utilities for your area forcing you to rely on natural gas instead of participating in the green revolution?", "At some point you should give induction a shot. Electric and induction are separate in my eyes. Electric works by running current through the stovetop element and so in order to adjust the temperature, you first increase the current, wait for the heating element to adjust, and then wait for your pan to adjust to that heat. \n\nInduction works by generating eddy currents directly in the metal of the pan. With a proper induction stove you can get something as responsive as gas without the drawbacks of gas (harder to clean, worse air).\n\nIf I wasn't a renter I would switch to induction and never look back, but most homes only have either electric or gas so I will continue with gas.", "I go there right now and I would say most people here at least slightly prefer gas stoves. Pretty much all of our stoves are gas except for a few newer induction burners.", "If we go full electric - Where is that power going to come from? What home can even accommodate it? \n\nIt's January. It's 0 f outside...\n\n* The heatpumps don't work at that temp, so every house is using resistive backup heat - essentially every house is running a 10,000 watt space heater. \n\n* Most homes have at least 2, sometimes 3 or 4 if you have teenage / college kids living with you, cars - All of the cars are charging and running heaters for their batteries - Let's say two cars, charging, plus battery heat - 7.5 kw per car - 15,000 watts \n\nDoesn't this already exceed the capacity of a 100 amp panel - What most home have? \n\n* Hot water heater - 4500 watts several hours per day\n\n* Electric stove - 4000 watts\n\n* Misc - computers, lights, TVs, chargers, etc... Let's say 1500 watts\n\nSo every home will have to upgrade to 200 amp panels AND the production side will have to basically double. \n\nSolar panels are fucking stupid for places up north where the days are short and it's super cold. Does wind power work in a blizzard? We need nuclear and a shit load of it.", "I can only imagine the type of person that goes around trying to bring the metoo movement into every conversation it has nothing to do with lmao. It must really trigger you huh?", "You've found a way to burn natural gas without emitting CO2? Awesome! Could you let us know how?", "That's just what she told me when she had me replace our stove with an induction cooktop.", "It is true. You should try opening a science book some time; or trust some actual scientists if you don’t have the ability.\n\nEdit: here is a link for those who might be interested.\n\nhttps://www.discovermagazine.com/environment/solar-panel-waste-the-dark-side-of-clean-energy", "That's not more efficient, that's cheaper. Important distinction.", "Give me my gas dryer or give me death!!!", "No high end restaurants have electric and I know several CIA graduates", "Until recently I was firmly in that camp as well, but I had to cook something up for my team at the office, where we have an induction cooker. It took some time to adjust to the instant heat I got from the thing, but if I had to choose for my own place I'd definitively go with that style of stovetop. Low power induction or 'electric' (the ones with the exposed coils) are utter shit though for anything more complicated than boiling an egg.", "> It just doesn't conduct heat as well as flame.\n\nThat alone tells me that you have no clue what you are talking about.\n\nWhat you are talking about is an electric resistive heater, i.e., the kind of electric stove that gets hot, and then you put your pot on top so it gets hot, too.\n\nWhat people here are talking about are electric induction heaters, i.e., the kind of electric stove that doesn't get hot, but instead only creates changing magnetic field that induces an electric current in the bottom of your cookware, which in turn causes the bottom of your cookware to heat up.\n\nThat is to say: No part of an induction heater ever conducts any heat, at all, because it doesn't produce any heat in the first place.", "My house isn't all natural gas but my heat definitely is. We have plenty of electricity here but winter storms commonly knock out power, sometimes for days. Right now natural gas is far cheaper and far more reliable than electricity. Heating with electricity in Michigan winters would be incredibly cost prohibitive.", "Tbh one of the main things I look for in a place is a gas range.", "I'd say that just because most of our stoves are gas doesn't mean we aren't open to induction. We have to take a lot of classes about the environmental impact of food and cooking.", "I have two stoves, one electric and one gas, i enjoy cooking as long as it's not on the electric stove.", "Hell yea. I'm sure building a brand new stove is much better for the environment.", "But I have so many feelings to express about the 5 words in the thumbnail.", "Gas stovetops, given they're not broken, burn extremely clean. At that point it's just CO2, water and negligible amounts of crap from impurities. While I'm all in favor of induction nowadays, huffing cancer gas is just plain incorrect.", "https://youtu.be/CcAJ3_-Hou8\n\nAdam Ragusea also did a video about gas stoves a little while ago. Looking at the same-ish topic from more of a food science angle than a environmentalist angle. I thought it was an interesting contrast and complement.", "Yeah, I've mentioned it in the other commend that it doesn't make much difference if you are using a heavy cast iron skillet.", "Get a couple of single burner induction cooktops. I rented for 5 years using those. I never touch the stovetops at the rentals (one was electric, the other gas).\n\nNow I have my own place that had to get propane hooked up. The price per gallon is climbing. First thing I did was switch out the gas cooktop in my kitchen with an 4 burner induction. So happy about that decision.", "> electric stoves pull ~3kw for 1 burner. boiling a pot of pasta is around 1.25kwh,\n\nAssuming you mean kW and kWh ... that doesn't make any sense?\n\nAt 3kW, you need 25 minutes to burn 1.25 kWh, but (a) you don't need 25 minutes to boil a pot of pasta and (b) your electric stove doesn't pull the full 3 kW for the whole time that you are cooking because the power is modulated, so you'd actually need more on the order of 40 minutes to actually burn 1.25 kWh with a 3 kW burner.", "No one got your joke.. I found it funny…", "Induction stoves pull 2-3kw but it only takes 3-5 minutes to boil a pot of water using induction while it can be almost twice that with gas, especially if you're talking about a bigger pot. Your cost figure is for a whole hour of having a stove on which is misleading.\n\nAverage cost of a kwh in the US is $.10-$.15, for 5 minutes you're paying that's also not including the fact you can use your homes solar panel (if you're in a position to have them).", "Who has time to read thumbnails? I saw a whole egg in the pan and I was angered straight to the comment section.", "~~Yea there's a reason every restaurant ever uses gas hobs, because it's so much more powerful.~~\n\nEdit: I finally got around to watching the video, didn't know induction cooktops were so good.", "Have you ever tried induction? I used to love gas, but except for few specific situations, induction is better in every way. Unless you get power from a coal plant or pay exorbitant amounts for power, induction is cheaper. Less risk of fire, less fumes, faster heating, cooking surface does not get very hot.", "We are prone to power outages. I love natural gas for my fireplace, bbq and stove. Also, it is way cheaper than using electricity where I live. \n\nInduction is cool, but we'll stick to natural gas", "Well that would be true, except that it's objectively not.", "> Heating with electricity in Michigan winters would be incredibly cost prohibitive.\n\nChances are that that's not actually true, for three reasons:\n\nFirst, you might be thinking of purely resistive heating, which indeed tends to be expensive, but it's far less bad with heat pumps, though it depends on your local weather how much heat you get out of each kWh of electricity with a heat pump.\n\nSecond, you probably are calculating based on current electricity prices, but those are going to change with the shift to renewable sources, and in particular they will become more flexible: While it is in some regards a disadvantage of wind and solar in particular that they are somewhat unreliable, that's actually not a huge problem for heating, because heating generally isn't time-critical: Whether your heating kicks in now or in half an hour usually doesn't really matter, because your house doesn't cool down that fast - so your heater can just avoid demand peaks or supply shortages where electricity is expensive and instead mostly use electricity when it is available for (relatively) cheap (and that works in both directions: You can let your house cool down slightly more to wait for cheapter electricity, or you can heat up your house slightly higher when electricity is cheap to coast through expensive simes withou or with minimal heating).\n\nThird, you probably aren't including the externalities of your CO2 emissions in the calculation, i.e., the costs that others and, down the line, also you yourself will have to bear as a result of climate change. As carbon pricing is introduced, you will sooner or later probably have to pay those costs as part of your gas bill, at which point even heating with electricity with current electricity prices might not look that bad anymore.", "I have solar panels, so I go for electric everything.", "Wut.\n\nThree seconds on Google shows COUNTLESS top restaurants and high end chefs using induction.", "Right, except as covered in the video leaks from gas mains means that domestic gas still works out worse than coal, let alone oil.", "Surely the problem here isn't the suggestion that you move to electric but the fact that your power cuts out for a day multiple times a year!? Unless you live somewhere extremely isolated that's just horrifically bad infrastructure.", "Edit: ~~You would be correct, except that you're objectively wrong.~~", "Try induction, it’s amazing. I got a single portable induction cooktop and it now sits permanently on top of my gas stove. I only use the gas when I need to use more than one element at a time. When I get the chance I’ll upgrade properly to induction with no regrets at all.", "This is so comically off base I’m not even going to reply.", "I was in the same camp until I moved to somewhere with a good induction hob, which is just better than gas. Way faster to heat stuff up, doesn't heat the whole room up, easier to clean, there isn't really a downside.", "No offense, but I don’t think you understand how this works. Where I live (Washington) most of my power is hydro. Further, even dirty energy sources are more efficient", "I’d say induction is faster. I’ve done a test boiling water side by side, and my cheap IKEA portable induction element boiled the water literally twice as fast as gas.", "Probably not", "When you turn in your gas stove next time, see if you can smell the face full of gas fumes you’re breathing in. Noticing that was the last straw for me. I’m a convert to induction even from only using a cheap IKEA portable unit.", "I have a large, high cfm hood vent over the stove that I turn on before I ignite the stove. I cannot smell it.", "It's a skill to master, but once you get good at it I don't even have to think about it", "Electric stoves suck and induction stoves are still too expensive for the average kitchen. That's why gas stoves are the most popular.", "Lol, eat a fucking dick, cunt.\n\nThank you for this information!\n\nSee how some of my comment was unnecessary and could have been left out?", "Larger than most people realize, small town about 2 hours south of Toronto a lot of people still use wood stoves here.", "Induction for me either burns the shit out of my food or doesn’t cook it at all. There’s no control", "You're the one who said you felt \"harassed\", sweetheart.", "Smart", "Damn an actually informed comment on this thread. Well done", "Sure, I could switch to a heat pump but that would require a huge investment to replace a relatively new 96% efficient natural gas furnace. When it gets down into the single digits and below, I would also need to rely on resistive heat assist which is quite a large portion of our winters.\n\nElectricity prices are not going to get any cheaper, it's just not going to happen. Even as the switch to renewables increases (which I support) it will not be anywhere near the price that natural gas is when it comes to home heating. I get the idea of time-of-use rates for electricity as I am currently on a plan like that to make charging my EV cheaper, but even at that reduced nighttime rate it is still significantly more expensive than natural gas. And suggesting that carbon taxes should make natural gas more expensive would absolutely kill the budget of pretty much every middle class and below family. If I had to heat my home at current electricity prices it would cost me about $650 just for heat in February.\n\nListen, I get it. I want a transition to a carbon free economy too, but unless we double down on both nuclear and renewables very quickly , suggesting that someone with existing natural gas switch to electric heating is just silly. A carbon tax sounds good and I'm not opposed to in in principle, but unless you're using that tax to give me hundreds in cash in the coldest months there is no way I'm going to switch. I teach environmental science and I love the environment, but I also need to provide for and feed my family.", "Except that [it isn't quite that simple](https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/5/7/21247602/gas-stove-cooking-indoor-air-pollution-health-risks). At the end of the day, any open flame indoors without good ventilation is most likely going to be worse for you than electric heating. Whether you're willing to take that marginally increased risk of health issues later in life in favour of convenience and ease of use is another matter.", "Ok? They only have those in urban Oahu. Rural Oahu and the other islands use propane which is far cleaner than electricity powered by oil burning generators.", "> The heatpumps don't work at that temp,\n\nHu? Why not?\n\n> so every house is using resistive backup heat - essentially every house is running a 10,000 watt space heater. \n\nThat certainly should not be a common occurence, because that would suggest that your heating system was badly designed, but yeah, under unusual circumstances, that could happen, sure.\n\nBut mind you that heat pumps absolutely do work even below 0°F, it's just a matter of selecting the right one, which will depend on how often you expect such temperatures. Also, there are more options besides heat pumps that extract heat from the outside air, such as extracting heat from the ground instead, where you then also have the option to store energy in the ground by running the heat pump in reverse when it's hot, or when electricity is cheap, or both, or using solar collectors as the source for heat you store underground, or ... whatever. There are tons of options, which ones make sense for you very much depends on where you live and on how your house is constructed.\n\nAlso, for really exceptionally cold weather, you probably don't need to be able to keep your house at a comfortable temperature, as long as it's warm enough that you don't freeze with proper clothes on, so chances are you wouldn't really need a 10 kW heater because 5 kW would do just fine to survive those few days every decade or whatever.\n\nAlso, solar heating still works well in cold wheather, as long as the sun is shining, so just cold wheather isn't necessarily a big problem.\n\n> Most homes have at least 2, sometimes 3 or 4 if you have teenage / college kids living with you, cars - All of the cars are charging and running heaters for their batteries - Let's say two cars, charging, plus battery heat - 7.5 kw per car - 15,000 watts \n\nIf anything, those would supply your heater.\n\nThe idea is to transition to a \"smart grid\" where electricity is essentially traded in real time, which means that (a) your car probably will automatically charge when electricity is cheap and avoid charging when it is not (as long as there is sufficient charge in the battery for your needs), but also (b) your car could potentially sell energy back to the grid when electricity is expensive. Obviously, that doesn't solve a lack of electricity that lasts for months on end, but it could very well solve the problem of a single extremely cold night following a dark day with no wind blowing, or whatever the worst case unusual extreme event would look like.\n\n> every home will have to upgrade to 200 amp panels AND\n\nI have no clue of the specifics in the US here, but chances are you can solve some of that with mutual lockouts or more intelligent communication instead (as in: the car charger reduces the charging current when the heating needs electricity, stuff like that).\n\n> the production side will have to basically double. \n\nWell, yeah, of course.\n\n> Solar panels are fucking stupid for places up north where the days are short and it's super cold.\n\nExcept that's just not true? I mean, depends on what you mean by \"up north\", I guess, but you really don't need to be at the equator for solar to be economical.\n\n> Does wind power work in a blizzard?\n\nIf you build it for it, mostly yes.\n\n> We need nuclear and a shit load of it.\n\nI don't think that's a bright idea.", "I'm all about going green, but the idea of saying 'goodbye' to a gas kitchen has never crossed my mind. I have an electric stove now and can't wait to remodel my kitchen and put in a gas range.", "All cooking methods should be using a vent hood.", "The insane amount of problems that would be fixed by making corruption illegal in the US is actually unbelievable, this is yet again one of the problems cause by it. If the American people actually had any real power to control politics this wouldn't happen, instead American politics are controlled by corporations and they always have the final say.\n\nAmerica doesn't have real democracy, they have a weird stand in sock puppet controlled by the hands of corporations.\n\nIn China politics are controlled by the state, the people have little say. In America politics are controlled by corporations, the people have little say. Corruption is widespread in both countries.\n\nCurrently the least corrupt states are, Denmark, New Zealand, Finland, Singapore, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Netherlands (Corruption Perceptions Index). I personally live in Denmark and for example watching LastWeekTonight is almost comical how unrelatable those problems are to living here, it might as well be science fiction to me, most of the problems covered on LastWeekTonight are problems caused by deep unregulated and unlimited corruption. I watch China Uncensored for the same reasons.", "They said induction, not electric.", "Unfortunately, I live somewhere that very occasionally gets a few yards of snow dumped overnight. Having hot food when that happens is quite nice, actually.", "If your unit is dollars then equal work for fewer dollars = more efficient", "With electric cars becoming more and more prolific, most houses will need to upgrade to high current panels sooner or later anyway. Unless you want to spend an hour every few days sitting at a charge station somewhere in town, that is.\n\nDepending on the COP of a heat pump, it might actually be more efficient to build more gas power plants instead of burning the gas in a boiler too when the weather is mild or the heat pump is used to heat tap water. Also it's a pretty big misconception that heat pumps don't work at cold temperatures. Properly installed high flow heating systems can maintain indoor temperature even at 0°F. Not to mention that borehole ground source heat pumps exist too, for which cold weather is a literal non-issue. Subsidising the installation of these for older homes and mandating all new homes to have one would probably be more cost effective than building a ton of nuclear power plants everywhere.", "Yeah but we were talking about energy efficiency above", "Sounds like the guy you corrected was talking about financial efficiency", "Only a Sith deals in absolutes...", "Depends on how electricity is produced I suppose. But more energy is more energy. I don’t think I’d use the equivalent of 5x20 pound propane tanks a year. Are we arguing about the right thing here. I think by opting to eat beef only once a week I’d be doing more for GHG than switching to an electric stove", "Bro stoves are a tiny portion of emissions. It's a quality thing.", "Very convenient for you to forget wind and hydro. Many places in Europe already have significant capacity for both with a little bit of solar on top when it comes to the total renewable capacity. Wind availability becomes even more of a non-issue once countries start implementing pumped hydro energy storage solutions.", "The posted video", "One of best ovens I've ever had in s domestic kitchen was one of those ancient white enamel things with an eye level grill, all gas. Hot instantly, still worked in a power cut, very reliable great gradient in the oven. Ok the ignition was busted but meh. I had my current place refitted a few years ago, five burner hob with a very powerful central burner for the wok and an electric oven and the electric oven is terrible. It takes 20 minutes to get to 180. Grill is fairly useless as well, you might as well try and get colour on stuff with harsh language.\n\nNot in any hurry to migrate. I'll replace the 30kW gas boiler before I replace the range and I'm in no rush to do that, that heating system cost a fortune.", "I’m a vendor for several thousand restaurants/cooking facilities in Southern California and I’ve never once seen them being used from hole in the wall places to upscale fine dining. It’s all gas.", "Ah yes, the ultimate \"I win\" argument. Well done.", "How am I supposed to cook when the powers gone out", "I guess enjoy your fumes for another 50 years", "The electricity is made by burning some fossil fuel at your local power plant. It loses energy there. Then it loses energy traveling through transmission lines to your house. Then it loses energy between the electric heat element and the pot. Gas only loses energy right at the burner on your stove. You have to look at the entire energy delivery process, not just the final step", "Did you even bother reading the article? Some vent hoods don't even vent outside, because it's not in the regulations. Not to mention that there's great variance in their efficiency, and some people don't even use them because they're loud.", "Induction is the way to go. My viking induction beats any gas stove hands down.", "I feel that the amount of gas used by cooking is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things", "I can vouch for induction, it's like magic.\n\nInstant control of the heat, no fire hazard, no indoor air pollutants, better for utilities bill because of the efficiency, and it's so fucking fast at heating stuff up to boiling.", "Fuck all of you that want to take away our gas stoves. It’s such a small proportion of the overall usage. Get off your high horse already.", "My man is shockingly hairless with that shirt off... Really expected more than that based on the face/neck lmao", "The only downside is they are quite expensive. And you may need to buy some new pans.\n\nBut if you can get past that they are great.", "Yeah. Reminds me of powdered milk and sad, sad times.", "Or install a good outside-venting hood...", "I’m sure many do,but many are unable to. But keep being a smug dick I guess", "Gas stoves are superior. In many ways, the green movement is a sham. Most electricity is made using natural gas.", "Good induction is great. Cheap induction is absolute garbage, and that's going to be most people's experience.", "Where the hell do you guys live that power outages are frequent enough that you have to consider them when choosing your preferred cooking method?", "You just single handedly defeated the internet.\n\nCelebrate this day.", "Man I would love to have induction at home but I don’t own my home, it’s mad expensive and I would have to get some new pots and pans. It really is amazing though, maybe one day!", "Gas works. \n\n\\~0.4% of gas is used for cooking. The rest goes to suffocating puppies. Let's worry about suffocating puppies first. Did you know that there are businesses that are puppy mills that solely exist for breeding puppies for suffocation by natural gas? It's true. I saw it on Twitter.\n\nElectric sucks. It boils water quicker. Good for electric. Can it roast a pepper? Can it toast a tortilla properly? Can it go from full heat to off instantaneously? No. But sure, electric can boil water faster.\n\nGo ahead. Let's all boil some water on an electric stove and sing hallelujah. \n\nPrimary uses of natural gas are industrial and commercial. We need to stop shitting on people for not composting our coffee grounds and worry about the big producers of CO2.\n\nIt's illegal for me to burn trash, but there's a power plant just down the road from me that burns trash for power. What the hell is the point. \n\nI like the way that my stove works.", "Watch the video, he talks about this", "Is that because it can cause damage?", "Watch the video, he talks about this", "I really believe my cheap induction caused my electricity bills to go sky high. Could it be something to do with the cheap timer thingy that u mentioned?", "I love my gas stove, I never want to use anything else.", "Some induction stoves will accept a range of voltages and scale power based on whats available. You don't need 400V 3-phase when 99% of the time you are using one or two burners on medium heat.\n\n80% of homes in US have an electric dryer, which is going to be a minimum 240V 30A service (7,200W). This is plenty to power most induction cooktops. 7kW is equivalent to something in the region of 50,000 BTUs, typical gas might be ~20,000 BTU.\n\nhttps://www.chowhound.com/post/gas-induction-comparing-power-916424", "New pans? It's not about damage, induction uses a magnet to heat up the pot by vibrating the metal in the pot rather than heating up the cooktop. It will only work with pots that are magnetic. It won't hurt other pots, it just will not do anything with them.", "Well, lets look at how electricity is produced first. Oh look, fossil fuels produce 79%. https://usafacts.org/earth-day-facts/energy-emissions/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ND-SOTE21&gclid=CjwKCAiA1uKMBhAGEiwAxzvX9_9Gjq2X250FbdiAioJWBr60SuS5CoDwD6ii_FgEVYqay6nDt-u2FxoCAFIQAvD_BwE\n\nGuess I'll just keep using my gas stove that doesn't fuck my food up while not consuming electricity produced by the same fuel I'm using.", "Got it. I totally forgot how they worked for a second.", "Yeah but how else do you smoke spots without a coil top stove", "I know everyone is saying induction doesn’t use plenty electricity, but why does my cheap one use so much electricity ?", "Why two?", "> Gas stoves are superior\n\nnah\n\n> Most electricity is made using natural gas.\n\nWhat? In the US? The world? Your county?", "Part of the energy transition is definitely going to be a massive build out of energy infrastructure, good observation. Some of this is actually in the BBB bill.\n\nAs for your nuclear vs renewables: it’s not totally clear what percentage of the grid writ large is going to be renewables, but the figure I’ve heard is around 90. Remember that there are non-nuclear firm sources (hydro), as well as a rapidly expanding technological explosion in batteries, grid scale and otherwise. \n\nThe figure I’ve heard is that we’ll need to 3-4x our grid capacity and energy production, which is a lot — but also something I believe the power of human inginuity can achieve!", "aint nobody got time for that", "I’m in Southern California In a newly remodeled house.\nHeating - NG,\nWater heater - NG,\nStove - NG.\n\nI like it this way, it’s very dependable vs the grid that goes out because it’s windy and our utility is afraid of getting sued. Electric everything sucks.", "Let's not be fooled into thinking some of these so called green and greener tech might be greener at your level but just as bad as anything else in manufacturing. There is a lot of marketing that just straight up lies be informed, alternative doesn't mean better alternative.", "I live in a decent sized city, thanks DTE energy.", "> Sure, I could switch to a heat pump but that would require a huge investment to replace a relatively new 96% efficient natural gas furnace.\n\nWell ... possibly, you shouldn't have bought that furnace in the first place?\n\nBut also ...\n\n> When it gets down into the single digits and below, I would also need to rely on resistive heat assist which is quite a large portion of our winters.\n\nThere is no fundamental reason why you couldn't just combine the two, so you could heat much of the year using just the heat pump, and then use natural gas instead of a resistive heater to support the heat pump when it gets too cold?\n\nBut also, if you'd need resistive assist much of the winter, maybe you should look into geo thermal heat pumps or solar heating, or just insulating your house better.\n\n> Electricity prices are not going to get any cheaper, it's just not going to happen. Even as the switch to renewables increases (which I support) it will not be anywhere near the price that natural gas is when it comes to home heating.\n\n... because?\n\n> I get the idea of time-of-use rates for electricity as I am currently on a plan like that to make charging my EV cheaper, but even at that reduced nighttime rate it is still significantly more expensive than natural gas.\n\nBut that also has absolutely nothing to do with realtime trading of renewable energy?\n\nCurrently, you are probably buying coal or gas power at off-peak times. Those kWh still take coal and gas to produce, and the power station still loses half the primary energy before they have electricity. So, yeah, of course it's cheaper to burn the gas at 96% efficiency in your home vs. at 50% efficiency at the power station. (Though you can break even on that with a heat pump in some places ...)\n\nIt's something different when we'll have renewable generation capacities that are significantly higher than usual load, so as to guarantee availability in bad conditions--chances are we'll have significantly higher production than needed quite regularly, and that's when you'll get electricity for considerably cheaper than usual, precisely because the whole point of that system is to not have to build storage for electricity, but instead use heating and cooling and cars as variable loads that can sink the excess energy, because that is cheaper than building storage.\n\n> And suggesting that carbon taxes should make natural gas more expensive would absolutely kill the budget of pretty much every middle class and below family. \n\nNo, it won't, it will simply make them switch to different energy sources. Which is the whole point of carbon taxes. The point of carbon taxes is not to make money, it's to stop people producing CO2.\n\n> If I had to heat my home at current electricity prices it would cost me about $650 just for heat in February.\n\nUsing what kind of heating system?\n\n> Listen, I get it. I want a transition to a carbon free economy too, but unless we double down on both nuclear and renewables very quickly , suggesting that someone with existing natural gas switch to electric heating is just silly.\n\nExcept it totally isn't? I mean, maybe it is for you, and of course we absolutely need to expand renewables generation (not so sure about nuclear ...), but there are actually plenty of places where a heat pump running on coal power is actually not more expensive and is (slightly) more climate friendly than a natural gas stove if the house is built appropriately. Now, obviously it would be stupid for everyone to switch to coal-powered heat pumps as a long-term solution, but it absolutely can make sense to switch to a heat pump now in such places when you need to replace your existing furnace anyway, because then the transition to renewables will happen automatically as electricity generation switches over, and thus you can prepare now to avoid carbon taxes in the future.\n\n> A carbon tax sounds good and I'm not opposed to in in principle, but unless you're using that tax to give me hundreds in cash in the coldest months there is no way I'm going to switch.\n\nHu? Why would giving you the money back cause you to switch to a cheaper alternative, rather than the fact that carbon-free energy would just be cheaper than natural gas?\n\nIf anything, shouldn't that rather be put into building renewables to make them a more affordable alternative?", "Gross", "No hei huh? Lol. I can understand that. \n\nOne other pro of a gas cooktop is you can cook in a power outage. Given that shouldn't happen often, but it is nice. \n\nI opted for gas aslo it's cheaper in my area than electric. In NY.", "My favorite part: because the surface doesn’t get hot, boil-overs don’t burn onto your surface or pan", "My old roommate had a single induction pad like a hotplate. He almost exclusively cooked on that once he got it. Just sat beside the shitty electric range on the counter in the apartment.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_California_electricity_crisis\n\nfor the zoomers out there", "[2000–01 California electricity crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–01_California_electricity_crisis) \n \n >The 2000–01 California electricity crisis, also known as the Western U.S. energy crisis of 2000 and 2001, was a situation in which the U.S. state of California had a shortage of electricity supply caused by market manipulations and capped retail electricity prices. The state suffered from multiple large-scale blackouts, one of the state's largest energy companies collapsed, and the economic fall-out greatly harmed Governor Gray Davis's standing. Drought, delays in approval of new power plants,: 109 and market manipulation decreased supply. This caused an 800% increase in wholesale prices from April 2000 to December 2000.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "You just need pans with iron content in them, like two of my pans couldn't work with the induction stove because they were aluminum, but everything else works perfect.", "Grew up with Gas, thought it was the best. Induction is totally the way to go.", "….And the induction cooktop surface isn’t 2nd/3rd degree burn hot for an hour after you cook. \n\nWay safer if you’ve got small kids around, or absent minded adults like me!", "Cheap cast iron works amazingly well on induction. New pans (if you need ‘em) don’t need to be pricey.", "We have a few that won’t work as well but that’s fine, I’m still going to purchase one.", "Thanks. all the replies have been helpful.", "I have two complaints about electric cook tops in general one minor , one major for me.\n1st electric doesn't play well with carbon steel. Cast iron is fine but it'll warp carbon steel pans. Minor problem but a bummer I can't use a couple of my favorite pans.\n\n2nd you can't roast peppers on the stove top. A lot of my favorite recipes involve a steamer basket laid straight on the gas cooktop. This obviously doesn't work electric at all, you could broil them instead but it's not the same at all. I could roast them over a wood fire but I live in an area with an open fire grill ban.", "He's the guy who said that the average American buys 70 pieces of clothing annually and wears clothes only about five times before throwing them away, right? I'm still waiting on data for those claims.", "We have an actual cooktop, but plenty of things like this floating around, and available in various sizes/ price points. If you’re renting, and your current stovetop is a busted POS, it’s could be a cheap investment that you could use and then resell (or take with you) when you’re done. \n\nhttps://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/cuisinart-double-induction-cooktop/", "That's not how it works, and that's not why it needs to be magnetic, nor does it actually even need to be magnetic.\n\nInduction heating works by inducing(!) an electric current in the pot's bottom: Any conductor in a changing magnetic field will create an electric current, that's what happens in generators and in transformers, and the inversion of what happens in en electric motor. That electric current then also generates a magnetic field, and when that magnetic field interacts with the magnetic field of the stove, you might get some vibration, but that's an unwanted side effect.\n\nNow, for that current in the pot's bottom to actually cause it to heat up, you need electrical resistance, because only with resistance you get voltage drop, and power is voltage times current, which is why good conductors like copper or aluminum usually don't work that well on induction heaters, but iron works great because it's a rather poor conductor. Now, iron also happens to be ferromagnetic, while copper and aluminum are not, but that is purely incidental: Some non-ferromagnetic stainless steel should generally work just fine as well.\n\nBut also, if you use higher frequencies for the magnetic field, you can cause what's known as \"skin effect\", where the fast change in magnetic field causes the current to concentrate in the outer layer of the conductor, thus causing the current to experience higher resistance, thus causing it produce heat even in good conductors ... which is why you actually can buy induction heaters that work with aluminum and copper cookware.", "Sounds like a cheap induction element. Try not taking the lowest cost option on wish.com.", "Not always. Plenty of hydro, wind, and nuclear energy feeding the grid.", "Especially induction heaters don't care about how flat the bottom of the pot is because no heat is transferred from the stove to the pot.", "I did mention wind; those giant towers require huge amounts of concrete to be poured and are made primarily of composite materials that give off toxic fumes when burned. The old ones are just buried in the ground after they stop working in ~15 years or so. Because wind is unreliable, it requires something called “operating reserves” which are traditional fuel generators running all the time. Feel free to google this. \n\nBut i agree that hydro is excellent and clean; even pumped hydro. Unfortunately, here in America hydro is now off limits for further expansion due to it requiring the building of dams and interfering with the natural layout of the land or the movement of fish, etc.", "> The electricity is made by burning some fossil fuel at your local refinery.\n\nYou might want to look up what a refinery is.\n\n> Then it loses energy between the electric heat element and the pot.\n\nInduction heaters don't have a heat element.", "You science deniers always amaze me. You should talk to a scientist or engineer that works in industry sometime and maybe they can convince you. Probably you won’t believe them tho because you trust what you see on TV.", "Once I switched from electric options to gas, I never looked back. The speed and precision of control you have over temperature is insane.", "Next move I do will be a gas free house. Induction for cooking and heat pump for HVAC.\n\nUtility hookup here is $40/mo so eliminating one plus efficiency gains puts the breakeven within a reasonable number of years. Less if gas prices continue to climb.", "Why didn't you list at least some of the many ways?", "No, and also it almost certainly hasn't.\n\nI mean, it depends on how much you cook, of course, but you'd really have to cook a lot to get your electricity bill \"sky high\".", "Why u on the video sub then", "And nobody ain't time to read unqualified comments that obviously don't make any sense given the content of the video.", "Wild ostonox comment wow", ">Well ... possibly, you shouldn't have bought that furnace in the first place?\n\nWhat should I have bought then, an electric heat pump that would be more expensive to install and more expensive to run where I live? Maybe you have enough money to do so, but I surely can't. \n\nGeothermal heat pumps, are you kidding? Maybe I could install a vertically drilled system in my small yard but where might I get the $20,000+ to do so? And the trees in my yard make solar a non-option.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>No, it won't, it will simply make them switch to different energy sources. Which is the whole point of carbon taxes. The point of carbon taxes is not to make money, it's to stop people producing CO2.\n\nYes, taxing natural gas to make it more expensive than electricity would either force me to pay for expensive natural gas or just as expensive electricity.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Using what kind of heating system?\n\nThis would be purely resistive heat, but considering I only pay about $40/month for natural gas even the most efficient heat pumps would still cost me more. And since one-two day power outages are not uncommon here, I can still get heat with just a small generator to run the fan.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>but it absolutely can make sense to switch to a heat pump now in such places when you need to replace your existing furnace anyway\n\nSure, but not for me and pretty much everyone I know in this area. It's more expensive to install and operate and, in an era of stagnant wages and rising inflation, keeping current costs down matters most. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Hu? Why would giving you the money back cause you to switch to a cheaper alternative, rather than the fact that carbon-free energy would just be cheaper than natural gas?\n\nI would happily switch over to electric if it wasn't the far more expensive option. Magically making gas more expensive without making electricity cheaper first will just make people more poor.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>If anything, shouldn't that rather be put into building renewables to make them a more affordable alternative?\n\nYes, but that has to happen before you tax people into poverty. Given the option, most people would be happy to make a choice that benefit the environment given that it would cost them the same or less. We need to invest heavily in renewables and nuclear to meet our carbon goals, but doing that by making currently affordable energy incredibly expensive for the average family is a terrible idea.", "> ~0.4% of gas is used for cooking.\n\nWrong and irrelevant. Also, watching the video before commenting might be a new idea for you?\n\n> Can it roast a pepper?\n\nYes.\n\n> Can it toast a tortilla properly?\n\nYes.\n\n> Can it go from full heat to off instantaneously?\n\nYes.\n\n> It's illegal for me to burn trash, but there's a power plant just down the road from me that burns trash for power. What the hell is the point.\n\nThe point presumably is that the power plant has an extensive exhaust cleaning setup to keep most of the stuff that isn't CO2 or water vapor out of the air you breathe. Also, assuming that you wouldn't burn the trash for heating, you at least get to use the energy when burning the trash in the power station.", "Hey the problem was stopping more hassles. That sounds like hassle", "Took me 4 hours on a Saturday. That's a lot easier than changing your electrical service and running heavy wire.", "Today I learned Induction stoves aren't the norm in the states!", "Had a burner on my electric range burnout. Looked into replacing the burner but it was something like $70. Bought one of those single induction pads like you mentioned for about the same price and place it right on top of the range. That is what I primarily cook on now. Electric ranges are horrible, but induction is much better.", "Maybe watch the video?", "I've cooked before on gas stoves and loved it, but not enough to throw out my electric range and have gas plumbed to my kitchen (even though my house is has gas heat and water) but I'm about to renovate my kitchen, and in preparation to not have a kitchen for a couple of weeks, I bought a single burner induction hotplate. \n\n\nMy god, the control is phenomenal, the ability to actually set it to hold 100c when I'm boiling something so it doesn't boil over, the speed at which a pan heats up, and the speed at which heat dissipates when I shut it off, it's better than any gas range I've ever used. it's on top of my regular range and will likely live there after the reno.", "What fumes? It isn't a campfire", "Did you watch the video? He's not suggesting old-style electric cooktops are good. He's suggesting that electric induction cooktops are the way to go.", "Or any aluminum cookware", "No, cooking is now a political act", "I love the idea of going all electric. But:\n\nUntil I get solar, heating is way cheaper with gas.\n\nOn demand electric water heater use like 200A. I just did a service upgrade to 200A from 100A. That cost me 9k. The power company wouldn’t let me go to 400A. So that an water heater is simply not an option. That’s on my electric company.\n\nGas stoves (as noted in the video) use 3% of gas use. I’m not gonna replace my range for such a trivial usage amount. And ya, induction is great when it comes to cleaning, but gas still wins out when it comes to actual cooking (albeit slightly). I do* want a induction range, but not enough to remodel my kitchen over it. And I’m not replacing my range until it’s time to remodel my kitchen. \n\nAlso some electric induction ranges are simply bad at getting searing hot. Great for sauces and boiling. But I want a red hot cast iron, and that’s requires a higher level of cooktop in the induction market. \n\nI’ve been priced out of all electric.", "I'm a tool of \"big gas\" now because electricity is expensive where I live and my house came with gas. Now cooking is politicized?", "I did watch it", "Only idiots use that quote", "Mmooo", "> viking induction\n\nNot everyone has 10k to drop on a cooktop", "So you destroyed rivers for your power. Good for you!", "2x faster for boiling. 2x slower for searing. That assuming each burner is only 1500W which is the high end at Home Depot. I don’t really need to boil water faster. That said, I’d get a induction range of I was remodeling.", "about to be hairless on top of that head. Super combover happening!", "I know the video had citation covering this, but natural gas emits very low levels of co2 and h20 on the stove. That’s basically it at measurable amount. It’s such a marginal issue. Cooking on natural gas is extremely safe in terms of in home pollutants.", "Not sure. I guess it's never been out long enough for me to get there? We've been out 24hrs and it was nice to heat the place with the fireplace and cook using the gas stove .... we did not run out.\n\nI suppose any compressors that do thus delivery are probably on backup power", "Watch the video\n\nhttps://www.npr.org/2019/08/05/745051104/give-up-your-gas-stove-to-save-the-planet-banning-gas-is-the-next-climate-push\n\nCooking on gas stoves can also cause high levels of indoor air pollution, like nitrogen dioxide. \"We have health effects that have never been considered that come from burning natural gas,\" Harrison says.\n\nhttps://academic.oup.com/aje/article/169/11/1327/159993\n\nAssociation of Early-life Exposure to Household Gas Appliances and Indoor Nitrogen Dioxide With Cognition and Attention Behavior in Preschoolers", "Induction is WAY faster than gas. I’ve been using induction for almost 3 years now and have gotten used to the time it takes to heat a pan or boil water. When I’m\nNot at home, it feels like it takes an eternity to boil a pot of water.", "Those leaks will occur regardless of my individual range choice. Unless the disconnect my entire street those leaks will continue to occur per household.", "> a few yards of snow dumped overnight.\n\nWhere the hell do you live that gets 3+ft of snow overnight?", "For home I think people prefer ease of cleanup over all else. And since induction is almost equal to gas for cooking, and way easier for cleaning, it makes sense that even a professional would opt for induction at home. In a professional kitchen most cooks will continue to vouch for gas ranges for quite a while.", ">Some vent hoods don't even vent outside, because it's not in the regulations. \n\nThat's not on the stove, but rather on the owner of the stove. Additionally, a recirculating system is also bad for an electric stove.\n\n>Not to mention that there's great variance in their efficiency\n\nOnly if you really half-ass things.\n\n>some people don't even use them because they're loud. \n\nSo? That's on them.", "Literally says it was caused by market manipulation in the first sentence. Aka greed and lack of regulation. Not by lack of infrastructure.\n\n\nAlso: was quarter century ago.", "My induction top is awesome, I can cook 2 minute noodles faster than my son who uses an electric jug and microwave.", "But, like… gas stoves are actually awesome. 🤷🏻‍♂️", "I actually didn’t install these dams, if that wasn’t clear. Hydro isn’t perfect but it’s orders of magnitudes better than GHG emitting power plants", "> usafacts.org\n\nYou do realise there are people from countries with responsible governments on this site, right?\n\nLike, [83% of electricity in Canada is generated using non-fossil fuels](https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-ontario.html), for instance.", "Every time I use an electric range I just get pissed because pots and pans aren’t perfectly flat on the bottom from heating and cooling so I’m having to hold it in place to get different parts hot. \n\nYou’ll pull my gas range from me from my cold dead hands.", "you didn’t watch the video did you…", "You didn't build those dams by yourself?\n\nSeriously, you just exchange one form of environmental damage for another and they aren't greenhouse gas free either. They destroy rivers, prevent flushing and silting dowstream, flood large areas, may lead to war (Turkey, Egypt) as upstream dams control waterflow, etc.\n\nhttps://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/66/11/949/2754271", "Yes I did. Back to your pedestal...", "You're a tool of big electricty then", "So the guy is scaremongering?", "I stopped watching 2 mins in realizing that the video is 21 mins long. \n\nI don’t care what all y’all think. I love my gas range.", "20 years ago", "A. Don't care. Don't care to watch the full video. If it was important, there would be a white paper to read.\nB. No it can't properly\nC. No it can't properly\nC. No it doesn't. That is verifiable with use.\nD. I don't want to burn trash. \n\nI'm just saying that asking the <1% consumers of a thing to take away the tiny bit of happiness that they have is silly. I like using gas. It's functional, fast, controllable, and good for cooking. It's a tiny bit of happiness in an otherwise doomed world. Just starting a car for 5 seconds is far worse than an hour of natural gas. Ordering a hat from Amazon is far worse than cooking soup when you consider bunker fuel, intermodal, and last mile delivery.\n\nThe end is but the grave for us all. At least, when we all burn in the pits of hell, I can say that I roasted a pepper the way I like it and I put a little bit of color on a tortilla, pulled the pork out of my oven, shredded it, mixed it with the enchilada sauce that I made previously, baked it again, then ate it.\n\nAll with clean burning natural gas. 'Paid for by the association of natural gas producers, LLC (r)(c)'\n\nIf you want to bitch about natural gas, go to western ND where they just burn it off instead of storing it because transportation is too expensive. 5 seconds of ND oil fields is a whole town's daily use of gas.", "i also smelled my shit one time and from that day forward i have never taken another dump", "21+ years ago. So about a quarter century ago. Caused by Enron. Literal convicted ultra conservative billionaires enabled by right wing deregulation. Not lack of infrastructure by any measure.", "I've heard there can be a hum or noise?", "Doesn't matter what you use if the power grid is using fossil fuels. You can have your entire house be \"electric\" but if the power plant is coal powered then you're SOL.", "Gas ranges are so good. Induction is really good for boiling water but gas is best overall.", "You can also get cast iron pads to put under your pans. Though at that point you have basically reinvented the coil electric range so you don’t really get the induction experience.", "> A. Don't care. Don't care to watch the full video.\n\nAnd I don't care about responding to your uninformed nonsense if you insist on staying uninformed.", "Frigidaire and Samsung make them as well.", "The previous commenter meant cast iron pans work really well on induction stovetops, even the cheaper ones that heat up intermittently. You'd be all set by the sound of it. Not sure about the enameled ones though since I don't know enough about those.", "My favorite part is that those cost double anything else.", "Have you tried roasting peppers under the broiler? I find it works great for tomatoes & asparagus, though haven’t tried it yet for peppers.", "What exactly do you mean? We burn coal and gas to produce these so called green products.", "Magnets how do they work", "I always preferred gas, honestly because I didn't really know any better. My entire experience with electric cook tops was a shitty coil and that was it for me. Induction sounds interesting. But honestly, at least until I'm in a place financially where I can solarize my entire house, I have to go with a gas range on the surprisingly less-than-off-chance that my power cuts out in our new sub-freezing Texas winters. Our gas still running was the only thing that kept us warm before we went to bed. \n\nBut still fuck the gas lobby and this premeptive bullshit.", "Induction ranges have very low settings. There is no problem starting low and going up as the rendering progresses.", "I am someone who cooks with induction and thinks it's the future. However, there's a lot of cunts in this thread being real assholes to people who either like gas better or are economically boxed into using gas. My god, you people are insufferable tools.", "Can’t have one if you or family member have a pacemaker.", ">Sees face shield with no mask\n\nYou sure make it hard to trust anything you say.", "Ah, that makes more sense. Thank you.", "Getting water up to boil twice as fast has been a huge time saver for me for things where you need a big pot of hot water like pasta preparation or blanching.", "I literally said it's not the same in my comment haha. But yes I've tried, it's not as good. The char isn't as good, as fast and unless you use a cooling rack on top of a cookie sheet it ends up stewing in it's juice instead of just charring. It doesn't matter gas or electric broiler open flame from under is the best for Chili's.", "If your peppers and tortillas have enough metal in them to be heated by induction, you have a real big problem.", "Nice. I'm obviously a huge proponent of nuclear power. It is the way forward.", "cries in Latin America", "I made it mostly all the way through the video but the low toned clicking noise in the background got annoying.", "Texas", "Hahaha! I totally said refinery didn’t I? Lmao! I’m a petroleum geologist. I know what a refinery and a power plant are, and totally flubbed it", "80% of the energy (on average across the United States, according to Eia.gov) is from fossil fuels", "And also triple", "Is there any indicator so I would know which type of cooktop I'm buying?", "I love gas, and the induction I have used I have found to be alright, but I would never get one. \n\nMy parents renovated their kitchen and put in an Induction cooktop, and three year later it stopped working, so they replaced with another, and the same thing - three years late it failed, they replaced again with induction, and it failed after 2 years, so they got gas installed and a gas cooktop for half the price of replacing another induction top. \n\nAll three were different models/brands, none were the cheapest on the market, and they all failed outside of warranty, there seemed to be no common reason they failed, and all were irreparable. \n\nGas is simple, very little can fail. I have had the same cooktop for 15 years, and it is basically the same as the day it was installed.", "I listed the primary, as it relates to this video. Other major issues off the top of my head would be the environmental ramifications of mining of lithium and other essential materials, battery disposal, the waste that will be created through the overregulation fossil fuel reliant vehicles.", "I cheat and use the kettle", "To add to this, induction stovetops are extremely efficient, far more than conventional electric or gas stoves. Something like 90% of the energy used goes towards heating food as opposed to heating the air in your kitchen compared to gas' ~40%.", "What product do you have? I've been curious, but struggling to find a quality product that can handle a 10 or 12 inch pan.", "It would have been better stated as, the most used resource for the generation of electricity is natural gas in the US. In the world it's coal.\n\n[https://www.google.com/search?q=sources+of+electricity+generation&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=B4rQ5fDhENQ2WM%252CPAuk7H216xQPRM%252C\\_&vet=1&usg=AI4\\_-kSEtETvBfmMAus9OwSY\\_6fowlfIOA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtu7ju2Kj0AhWDup4KHU0XDnAQ9QF6BAgKEAE&biw=1536&bih=722&dpr=1.25#imgrc=B4rQ5fDhENQ2WM](https://www.google.com/search?q=sources+of+electricity+generation&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=B4rQ5fDhENQ2WM%252CPAuk7H216xQPRM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSEtETvBfmMAus9OwSY_6fowlfIOA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtu7ju2Kj0AhWDup4KHU0XDnAQ9QF6BAgKEAE&biw=1536&bih=722&dpr=1.25#imgrc=B4rQ5fDhENQ2WM)", "Also you can setup heatpump for water heater, clothes dryer. Endless possibilities. Even if you have water radiators in the house you can setup air to water heatpump which dumps the heat into the water system instead of the HVAC.", "Sadly not very fast for us 110 folks in the states", "Oh, yeah we 240v / 10A down under, kettle beats gas by a long shot", "I agree only made it through the freeze due to a gas stove to make warm food.", "Sure, look for the one that says \"induction\"", "Not to take away from the message of this but it's kinda weird that a guy that cares this much about climate change is still eating animals.", "Great video. Now do one for plastics.", "Same here, we also had a smaller gas stove for hot pot and such, but being able to use the big stove to heat stuff up was a lifesaver.", "Cool, let's see what you think about your gas cooktop when gas costs 2-3x what it does now.", "cry about it then", "nope sorry cant agree, i had a high end induction hob at a fancy apartment i lived in a few years ago and even after a year i still hated it, electric ovens are even worse, take ages to heat up, never seem to be the actual temp you set them to (despite being less than 12 months old the one at my last house was particularly bad, when set to 180C the actual temp would be anywhere between 150C and 200C)", "Yeah thanks, I guess that's on me. Now how do I tell the difference between the methods of temperature control in the induction cooktops?", "If only we would have gone the route of all nuclear like it was advertised in the early days.", "The eia stat you cited includes energy used for transportation, industrial sources, etc. \n\nElectricity generation is more like 60% fossil fuels, and the EIA ignores most small scale solar and wind at less than 1mw, which would be the entire residential solar footprint. Probably not enough to tip the scales a ton, but the net effect is noticeably less than 80% fossil fuels feeding houses. \n\n…and there are places outside of the US, and regions within the US where the breakdown looks very different.", "A lot of people in my city had all the stuff promoted by electric companies: appliances, heat pumps, etc. We never lost power, but people who did were SOL if they had no gas cooktop.", "I had a portable induction hot plate that I used when living in a studio that I got for about $80. I loved that thing because it was faster and more powerful than using a big conventional range. I still use it for searing meat.", "Did you even watch the video? He literally has a part where he says he's not dogging on anyone for still using gas lol", "Buy a wok burner for outside use if you're able to. Not too expensive and better than any indoor gas range for wok use.", "This! Our only reliable source of....anything, was our natural gas. I was able to boil water and make chili.", "Why would it be slower for searing?", "Our first vent hood was old and didn't move enough air. I had to clean a thin film of grease off the cabinets and appliances now and then. After we got a dual-fan, high cfm vent hood, all I have to do is clean the filter screens and the surfaces.", "southamerica. live in the busiest, biggest city of my country and every summer i'll go for anything from 2 to 7 days without power, sometimes more than once.", "I lived in Austin for 10 years and had maybe one power outage a year, if that. Does the rest of TX have frequent issues?", "Louisiana", "The sticks", "I can't speak for all the USA but in the Northeast, if you don't live 10 or so mins away from a hospital, or you don't have a generator, you should definitely be considering if you should be using a gas stove.", "I'm apparently one of the few people that actually prefer electric. I lived in a house with gas for 5 years and the pilot light would go out fairly often in both the stove and the furnace, especially in the winter (and they were a pain to relight).\n\nThe house I've lived in for the last 15 years is all electric and I much prefer it. Electric stove (although I'd like to upgrade to induction at some point), geothermal hvac system, no pilot light to deal with, no threat of gas leak or explosion.\n\nI'm not knocking anyone that prefers gas...you do you...I just am not one of those people.", "I have cold weather heatpump that can output like 2x efficiency at -30c. Every year it seems they get more efficient with colder temps.", "Can you ELI5 why the mass is the tipping point on this? Is it that more mass means less likely to change temps quickly, and thus you get even burn?", "The cheapest induction stove in my nearest home depot is $2595 canadian. The cheapest gast stove is $695.00 canadian.", "I guess you didn't watch the video", "Most of our appliances are electric. Refrigerator, w/d, oven, microwave, dishwasher, a/c, small appliances. I love my gas cooktop. We also have gas heat and a gas water heater. \n\nI'm glad that whoever built this house resisted making it all electric. A generator can run all the electric, including the house fan and the thermostat, but not the a/c. It absolutely cannot run a heat pump on top of everything else.", "No, definitely not slower for searing. My carbon steel pans are super responsive on induction, and I’d say get a lot hotter much faster than with gas", "Yep, super fast, I love it", "Please know that you are loved and respected. That is all.", "I'd expect that from someone who puts a whole egg in a skillet.", "Ok then. Gas fumes and combustion gases in the home have been proven to cause breathing illnesses.", "Is from IKEA. As a cheap portable one size is definitely a limitation. My larger carbon steel pan is a bit too big for it. Although I think the latest IKEA model has a larger element than mine.", "cringelord, making new accounts every other week to be a bastard on reddit.", "Listened to it. Why?", "well, he's right that a poorly maintained stove/oven can generate more fumes, but you should have a window cracked and the vent running whenever the stove or oven is running either way. you can check your stove right now to see if the flames are ghostly blue (good) or orange (bad).", "gas range > electric stove any day of the week, and I don't need influencers to tell me that.", "Nuclear was and still is, the answer to climate change. But Rikers and Chernobyl have made it impossible.", "Tried making a dish in a wok the other day. Dumbest fucking thing ever.", "Not just the stove itself costs money but so do the pans needed to use an induction— gotta remember that all that aluminum we use doesn’t work with induction. Cast iron is great, but comes at a physical expense of being very heavy and is only able to be hand washed, as well as requires other care to maintain and season. Stainless steel options aren’t for everyone either and can also be expensive.", "Gas is nicer to cook with, but I'd rather not breathe in carbon monoxide and other combustion byproducts from an open flame in an enclosed space.", "South Africa https://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/loadshedding/description", "I can’t roast corn on electric", "Wrong. I also read the title OP wrote.\n\nI hate influencers. Fuck. Theyre destroying the planet, theyre so self absorbed virtue singaling, does anyone else hate influencers on reddit? Upvote if you do", "i was gonna say \"but muh wok!\" but then i realized that if i really wanted to get serious about woks, i'd have a dedicated wok burner and propane is probably my jam.\n\nso, yes i love our new induction overlords and desperately wish to upgrade", "Heating is absolutely waay cheaper with natural gas! We don’t have natural gas lines in my neighborhood so it’s electric only, and even living in Texas, the winter months are always my most expensive utility months by far because electric heating costs so much! Our electric furnace uses 6kw for every hour it’s on, compared to the 1.5kw for the air conditioner. Basically it costs $1/an hour to run the heater.\n\nNatural gas uses at the power plant may be 50% efficient at converting heat to electricity and my electric furnace is near 100% efficient at converting that electricity to heat, but burning natural gas in the home produces 100% of the heat with no loss.", "As someone that used to live in a hurricane-prone area, a gas stove was a life saver whenever a bad storm would knock out power for 3+ days.", "You're getting downvoted but it's true. Electric is faster at transferring heat to the pan even despite the warm up period that electric coils have that gas flames don't (if you want to prove it try boiling water on both an electric and gas stove and tell me which one wins). \n\nI think people just are just too used to the immediate feedback of watching the gas flames change size as the knob turns.\n\nRegardless, induction beats them both by any meaningful metric but they are harder to come by in America.", "CoOkInG wItH elECtRiCiTy iS DesTrOYinG AmERiCa!!!", "Almost any new NG heating system is going to require electricity to run regardless. Any forced air furnace needs electricity to power the control board, induced draft motor, and blower motor to circulate air. The majority of new NG boilers don't have a standing pilot and have electronic ignition (not to mention electronic thermostats and water circulation pumps).\n\nMost naturally drafted NG water heaters can still operate without electricity, as they typically have a standing pilot.\n\nEDIT: I should note, if you have a backup generator of some sort, the power draw of a NG heating appliance is going to be pretty minimal compared to electric heating.", "If you're getting a \"face full of gas fumes\", you need to fix your shit, or get it serviced.", "I love how this video brings out Adam Raises fans, and one of the top comments on the video is from Not Just Bikes. All I need are some references to City Beautiful and Binging with Babish and that completes a circle of all my favorite YouTube channels.", "You can’t roast things directly on the flame, but other than that, induction really is the better option", "Not sure gas would ever get high enough to be more expensive than three brand new induction cook tops in less than 10 years, but hey maybe it will. But no doubt by then there will be a new gas network in my country that is more eco friendly.", "If you think electric aren’t pushing the same kind of propaganda you’re kidding yourself, and they have a much better PR team", "Iowa - and not middle-of-nowhere Iowa. I live in a Big12 College town (Ames). Last year when the Derecho hit we were without power for 7 days. I live in a house built in 1925 surrounded by houses built in the 70's and 80's. I was able to have hot water and I had a stove to cook on. No one else around me could.", "You cant use your AC to heat up the place? Its usually like -30% electricity to heat with an air pump, compared to simple electric heaters.", "Really any place that has natural disasters. Gas stoves are also good when power is lost during a hurricane. It's the best choice down south by the coast and up north with the snow.", "Could you still cook with a wok on an induction stove? Like with a wok I always have to toss it around but that wouldn’t keep the heat. There’s gotta be a solution to that problem", "I live in Austin and also did during the freeze last February.\n\nIf I had a gas stove, I would have been so much better off and equipped to deal. Power went out and my electric 4top was a giant brick in my kitchen.\n\nAnd nowhere was open, so it was fruit at first then chips as the week went on. The first bite of hot food I had (pizza) when businesses started reopening was divine, sublime, and very good.", "Huh I actually hadn’t read about emissions from this, pretty interesting.\n\nI’d have been much more inclined to have a debate if you hadn’t been so condescending in your first message btw. I didn’t think that was super nice", "Hot take: forget gas, let's bring bag woodfire cooking. You ain't never had pizza unless you've had wood-fired pizza", "Probably the northern midwest or alaska. They can sometimes get dumped on and not be able to do anything until something gets plowed or it melts.", "Its a BIG-gas conspiracy, Naturalgasgate, someone get Greta Thurnmgnbemrg on the line ASAP we need to get this to top brass", "What are your thoughts on paedophiles? surely we can squeeze some more upvotes from this thread if we take a principled stand against the lowest hanging fruit there is.", "How is a stove powered by a traditional power company more efficient and environmentally friendly than a gas stove?", "You don't need to spend that much on one, we're very happy with our cheap $400 induction hob. Not this one but just like it: https://www.amazon.ca/NOXTON-Electric-Induction-Cleaning-220-240V/dp/B082KRTZ34/ref=sr_1_94?keywords=induction%2Bhob&qid=1637476349&sr=8-94&th=1", "This is what i wanted to comment about but looked at what others are saying first. you have to shell out a ton of money for a GOOD induction stove. I have one now and it never works well. The element randomly just going off for a few seconds because \"thats too hot for the 6 setting\" when youre just trying to heat up oil or water to cook with...", "That's where I stopped too. That is NOT how Gordon Ramsay would cook an egg.", "That's pretty cheap", "Yep. I was actually thinking of switching but then the freeze happened and my gas stove, water heater, and heaters really saved our ass. I plan to move out of this backwards shithole eventually but while I still have to live in Texas I just don't trust our grid anymore.", "Isn't the failure of the electric grid an infrastructure problem though? Not to discredit your point, obviously it would have been better in that scenario, but it's not like electricity is the absolute problem here. If we were in a future where everyone had enough power to have a generator battery fallback this wouldn't be a problem, no?", "No, but at least in my case and other people I know the winter storm really changed things.", "That's a fair point, for sure. My example is entirely situational. A counter example is that an electric stove can work outside on a windy day.", "There's a reason professional chefs and restaurants use gas. Much easier to control your cooking temps, and they're much more consistent.", "shhhh we're still trying to make people believe that their individual actions can slow down climate change while the corporations and military pollute to their heart's content", "I don't get the hype. I'm not a gourmet chef here, I just want to make some chicken hot.", "Looking at the cost of the new plant in the UK says otherwise.", "How expensive are we talking about?", "To be fair, it is a problem in some places. The town I grew up in had huge windstorms that approached hurricane force winds sometimes. One year it ripped the singles off our roof. It was basically inevitable that a power line would get damaged when that happens.\n\nThat being said, our gas grill was just fine as a backup when the power would be out for a day or more.", "I switched to gas because my electric stove was shit. Households in Switzerland usually get 3 phases for the stove so using an electric stove usually works quite well, but my apartment for some reason is the only one in the building with only two. So I just went to ali and bought the cheapest propane stove I cold find that doesn't looks like it's made of plastic [and just set it up on top of the electric stove](https://i.imgur.com/f4k376R.jpg) with a [propane bottle that sits next to it](https://i.imgur.com/yp03g3b.jpg). I still use the electric stove for things like boiling water or slowly re-heating food where you can safely set a timer and just walk away (in case anyone wonders, I disabled the left side of it).\n\nI would love to switch away from this fossil fuel, but the places near me don't sell biopropane yet.", "Your lack of understanding makes you the tool.", "Getting a heavy cast iron is just good advice in general.", "This class is why you will die.\n\nPeople see no reason to change until it is too late.", "Yes but only the cheap induction jobs are a problem my one I can melt chocolate on low and on high it is wild", ">no indoor air pollutants,\nYou have seen me cook a curry and then eat a curry then.", "Induction sucks compared to gas, even the best of the best, they are all dogshit in comparison. A mini camp stove works better then a 5k induction", "\"In Denmark corruption is illegal.\"\n\nYou really should follow news about your own country more.", ">absent minded adults\n\nMy GF is a bit if a cluts so I carefully swapped around the very hot pan with the cold one so it was away from where she was working.. \n\n\nThen 40 seconds later picked the hot one with my hand", "For the same price of building a Nuclear power plant in the UK (20 billion pounds) you could put a Tesla Solar Roof + Battery storage on 755 000 homes. And that's the most expensive solar installation available as it's an entire roof. And that's not even counting the billions in maintenance a Nuclear plant would cost to maintain, fuel, \n store nuclear waste and eventually decommission.", "Yes the first sausages I cooked after i installed my induction were a bit in the over cooked side. \n\n\nNot the 5.min on high to get up to temp like the hob it replaced.", "I want to make that chicken today, not tomorrow. Electric cook too takes forever", "is electricity greener than natural gas?", "I have an electric coil stove in my house and it blew my mind. I used to have the glass top electric stoves and I like the way they look but the electric coil stove I now use can start boiling a pot of water in like 2 minutes. I can't even remember the last time I saw a gas stove", "Who cares, cooking on other stoves in inferior. We aren't doing that much harm compared to big companies. Piss off with blaming consumers.", "Most older AC units are only built to move heat in one direction. It's pretty recently that \"heat pump\" systems have gained popularity which can move heat in both directions based on what is needed.", "Sometimes when using my gas range I don’t even use a pan. The best way to warm tortillas is over a open flame. Same with roasting peppers. I’m happy to switch for other uses, but the thought of a future without any type of open flame cooking makes me really sad.", ">This is why \"green\" is always behind IMO. There's always a bunch of assholes who push it so hard that everyone else is use to tuning them out.\n\nbruv green is behind because people do whats easiest and what theyre familiar with\n\nas soon as whatever environmentally friendly option is available you can bet your ass therell be a million insecure assholes tying the old methods to their fragile masculinity and harassing anybody who wants to change", "Never found it to be a problem. If it takes a few minutes to heat up (the horror!), I can turn it on and do something else for a minute. Sweep the floor or put in some laundry. Once it's heated, I'll be able to hear/smell the chicken to alert me.", "I worked as a line cook for the better part of 15 years. I still cook at home nearly every day, and I think I would have anything but a coil electric stove looking like it was five years old within six months. Stoves take a lot of abuse when cooking, and gas stoves are built to take that abuse. Coils can too, but it's like fingernails on a chalkboard moving a saute pan around.", "The electric stove broke, now it's a shelf for the gas stove. (You have to have lived in the 70s to get this joke)", "I really, really hope you weren't using a gas stove top to heat your house.", "Gas is the best option for a stove unlesss you can afford expensive induction. Thermador induction is my favorite rn (:", "is it good at rapid change of temperature? thats one of the benefits i see with gas is the ability to quickly switch heat (this isnt a loaded question, i really have very little knowledge about induction)", "Can't use a proper round-base wok though.", "maybe just watch the damn video rather than writing a doctoral thesis straw manning a video you haven't even watched", "Get out of here with this USA-China whataboutism. People are being literally disappeared by the Chinese government. NO corporate entity in the US can simply have a detractor disappear, and if you believe so, then show me some examples of people like Jack Ma or the thousands of missing Uighurs in the US. \n\n\nCorporations do not unilaterally control American politics. Look at the US response to Coronavirus. Sure, some corporations grew during the pandemic, but government instituted lockdowns and increases in unemployment benefits resulted in major upheavals on Wall Street that continue to this day. No \"corporatocracy\" would have allowed for so much damage to the status quo.", "I love to show people this by placing a pot of water to boil right on top of some newspaper on the burner and crank it to high and watch a quart of water boil in well under a minute.\n\nTheir mind gets blow when I explain to them that the pan is heating the burner, because electromagnetism, not the other way around.", "Gas stoves and gas hot water heaters work while the power is out. Sadly that's very useful on some parts of the USA during storms or ice storms you can still sit by oven and heat yourself (I've had to do this in the past due to power outages in winter)", "From a standpoint of greenness...I feel like gas stoves are the least of our worries. Once our electricity is more than half renewable, and we aren't driving gas cars anymore, then it'll be worthwhile to invest in not having a gas stove. Until then it feels like a drop in the bucket.", "Same here. I'll be building a house in a few years in the Santa Cruz mountains (already have the land), and if I want gas I need to put in a propane tank and go through all those extra sets of paperwork. Between not having to install an entire set of infrastructure, and with how good (and cheap) solar + battery storage is getting, I'll be never turning back to gas.", "I just bought induction cooktop, and it smashes gas! Faster, cleaner, waaaay more control, no gas leak risk, yaaaaas!!!!!", "Try induction. It's fuckin awesome.", "Fire country here. Happens a lot. \n\nPower gets intentionally cut off in high winds.", "Just wait until you try using induction on a 4.4KW burner rather than the usual 1500W ones you plug into a 120V socket. Life. Changing.", "[Why can't you?](https://www.webstaurantstore.com/15055/countertop-induction-ranges-and-induction-cookers.html?filter=type:induction-wok-ranges)", "FYI: IKEA sells really good induction stoves for not too much money. Source: I have one and it’s awesome.", "Living in Finland, I'm familiar with a little cold and snow too, even if that much snow in one night would be very unusual for us.", "A stove is an open loop control", " The video even pointed out that stoves are only like 3% or what we're using natural gas for. I want to do the big stuff and I'll probably be replacing my furnace and water heater in the next 5-10 years, but even with the rates mentioned in the video the water heater is going to cost about 30% more to run, and the furnace is 50-100% more expensive.\n\nYeah your open flame stove is less effective at heating food than magic induction magnet heating, but that's because like 80% of that heat is getting dumped into the environment. When you want to dump heat into an environment natural gas is still way cheaper, and that's the other 97% of things we're using gas for in our homes.", "Electricity in Alberta is far more expensive than gas here. Maybe it's different in other parts. \n\nI'd also far rather a gas range vs induction - regardless of price. Induction is worse than the old school coil burners. Seriously. I've been looking at coil burners for my next range because my induction is terrible and has more maintenance issues. Ideally I'd use gas but it's expensive to get a line inside my home for that. One day.", "Gas can output more heat with a larger burner in a restaurant setting, yes, but for any residential-rated stovetop induction will absolutely transfer more energy into the pan in less time. A 4.4KW induction hob transfers 15,000 BTU per hour at 96% efficiency, resulting in 14,400 BTU/hr.\n\nA gas hob will output up to 18,000 BTU per hour at 40% efficiency (at best), putting just 7,200 BTU/hr into the pan.", "Might be cost effective to just start capturing my own farts at that point.", "Absolutely. Gas is far better in almost every way. Maintenance, cooking food, running cost, etc.", "> easier to clean\n\nI'm genuinely curious about this. Are the expensive ones easy to clean? Because my current apartment has an electric stove, one of the standard non-expensive ones, and it's a GIANT PAIN to clean. When stuff, especially oil, jumps from the pot or pan and falls at or near the hot surface it gets burnt against the ceramic top, and it's a bitch to clean without scratching it. I've given up not scratching it, it takes way too much effort to clean otherwise (yes I've tried the razor trick). My previous apartment's gas stove had cast iron pan supports, so scratching them wasn't a problem and you could easily clean gunk off with a steel wool pad, and stuff didn't really stick that much to the rest so a standard sponge would do and you could make it look brand new.", "and check my merch", "For most ranges, for induction they are only about £100 more. Nothing like twice the price that some people are quoting. (In the UK at least)", "If you ever wonder why we as a species will never make any meaningful progress towards a greener future, look no further than the reddit comments of a Climate Town video.\n\nThe usual lack of critical thought and people who didn't watch the video yet felt personally attacked by the headline and desperately need to write a negative comment is staggering", "What watt per burner? 1200 is average. That would be about half the practical btus of each range on my burner.\n\nAlso, I hate my carbon steel.", "I've got gas", "Heat pump water heater will be way more efficient", "As far as the unburnt emissions goes, that 9% is cutting into the gas company’s bottom line. You bet your ass that they are working just as hard to get that number down as they are to preventing regulation.", "Those are all mostly valid points and I know about those very well. I made no point about China not being worse. My point more illustrated that both sides are bad in similar ways and bad overall.\n\nYou can find many negatives to both sides. You response is merely a whataboutism maybe a tu quoque fallacy.\n\nThe US doesn't really disapear people you're right on that, but there are certainly attempts to mute people severely for unjust reasons, Aaron Swartz, Steven Donziger, Edward Snowden (who knows what would have happend to him if they got hold of him) and there are a few environmentalists who have been labeled as terrorists and a couple who have been put in the of most maximum security prisons in the country in order to silence them (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuAAPsiD768). I have certainly heard quite a few examples.\n\nYou can't say just because China does something we don't that automatically resolves the US of any blame, surprise surprise it doesn't.\n\n> No \"corporatocracy\" would have allowed for so much damage to the status quo.\n\nThe US is literally the best example we have of a corporatocracy your point is ridiculous, you might as well have said \"in this mere arbitrary example of mine the US is not a total corporatocracy.\" Yet what happened to the people responsible for the 2008 crisis, nothing? Your point is exactly what? How isn't the US a corporatocracy, it's certainly a dystopia in other ways.\n\nHere we strike upon another similarity, what happened to the perpetrators involved in 2008, nothing. What happened to perpetrators who was so irresponsible in their practices and research they might have caused the pandemic, nothing, we can't even get an answer from China, when Australia wanted an answer, China's response was to retaliate by totally banning the import of Australian coal, part of that helped cause China's current energy crisis.", "[Honestly this is pretty amazing.](https://youtu.be/clAzUFJf7v8?t=140)", "My real issue with induction isn't its heating capacity but all the shit around it. I hate the sound a pot makes when it scrapes over glass, I hate the shitty touch-controls seemingly mandatory for induction stoves that for some reason always malfunction if there's even a drop of water on the stovetop because lord knows water isn't something that's used in cooking. I hate the sounds they make its always these aggressive fucking beeps that remind me of my dad's alarm clock and that are designed to give me a panic attack any time I leave a pot 2 cm off dead center of the goddamn heater.", "Calunicornia", "Paid for by ~~Chewlie’s Gum~~ the induction stove industry", "Give it time. I’ve been forced to use an electric for the last several years. It really sucks. Other then it’s easier to clean.", "From what I understand at least in the US even new buildings generally will just be built with only AC unit and gas heating in areas where gas is available. So unless the person specing the home actually asks for heat pump they won't get it.", "I'd say if a few yards of snow leaves you without power you don't live under competent political leadership.", "I put a gas stove in my place 3 years ago, it runs off of LPG, I had to get 2 45kg gas tanks for it. I’m still yet to use a single fucking gas tank in that time. I don’t think using gas for cooking is what is going to save the world from climate change.\n\nOut of all of its uses, this seems to be the smartest and least damaging one.", "Winter in rural Canada is full of trees and snow and car crashes all damaging power lines, we had a power cut just the other day that lasted about 16 hours", "Look at this high ballin guy, with reliable power!\n\nMy city’s infrastructure is old and pretty shit so it’s hit and miss during storms. And since my house is already fitted for gas water heating/furnace, theres a good chance I’ll be replacing my trashy electric range with a gas one when it dies because induction stoves are $$$ and yes, I like warm food during power outages.", "Wind and batteries are green energy, he for sure mentions them. Batteries have their own issues and wind isn't a direct replacement for coal or natural gas. Why isn't nuclear mentioned as a very clean in comparison to nearly anything mentioned in his video. I agree that we don't need gas ranges anymore and we hardly use ours, we've got an induction surface, but that still uses whatever our towns plant burns for electricity. There are a few other idea that might help, I can't remember where it was, but he was calling for the modernization of counties still using wood as a main source of fuel.", "I don't think you know what induction is. It's better than gas.", "That is 100% certain not induction.\nNormal electric stoves after ~1995 have a glass top (if it ain't cheapest thing).\n\nAnd yes, they are easy to clean", "There is work in the UK to research use of hydrogen for cooking", "Jesus fucking Christ of course a gas stove has more emissions than an electric one — which has basically zero. \nMaybe I’ll switch when the government gives me a subsidy to do so because I’m pretty sure you arent offering to pay for a new induction stove? 🤷🏻‍♂️", "Why'd he have to get naked. Hairy nipples are not a thing i want in my preachy edutainment videos.", "\\>high levels \n\nit's more elevated than nominal levels but 3 times lower than the limit.", "Well, my country's IH stoves are mostly shit and won't work with cast iron, the stuff that does work with cast iron gets scratched up by the cast iron, and I can't use teflon because I have small birds, and teflon fumes has been shown to kill them quite quickly.\n\nNot to mention 90% of apartments are pre-built with gas stoves. Not much of an option in my case.", "The induction cooktop doesn’t get hot(]. You can turn it on high an put your hand on it and feel nothing. Put a plastic package on it, no heat. Put a metal pan on it and the magnets make the pan hot.\n\n() if you have a hot pan atop the stove, some of that heat will transfer back to the stovetop in the same way that a hot pans transfers heat to the food inside of it. \n\nIn traditional electric, the coil is the hottest pat, this transfers to to stovetop (2nd hottest), then to the pan (third hottest), then the food. In induction the heat is generated within the pan and radiates out from there. \n\nThus, the stovetop won’t have the same extreme hotspots baking stuff onto the surface, at least not over as large of an area and at a lower temperature.", "Here in Europe most induction stoves are either one phase only or two and one phase. They have one less wire. The manuals usually tell you that you can connect the phases together and use it as a single phase device. This is a little like phone chargers. Manufacturers want to make sure most people can use the device so the power circuit is designed in a way it works either way.", "I preferred gas until I bought a house with an induction cooktop.", "I have one of those wok burners with a high pressure regulator, it’s awesome but I’m not Asian so there’s a learning curve", "Unless it's Lodge. I've never had much luck properly seasoning those.", "This doesn't sound like induction, but until I used one I didn't know the difference either. Electric uses a heating element to create a hot surface you put your pan on, and I found it a nightmare to clean too if anything burned on. We recently moved to somewhere with induction though, and it turns out the difference is there is no heating element, instead it makes your pan get hot directly with the power of magnets. Thus means the surface itself never really gets too hot, it gets some heat back from the pan but is never hotter than the pan itself and starts cooling as soon as you remove the pan. The big downside I found is I had to buy all new pans, as they have to be magnetic to work.", "Cooking during a power outage is possible with gas. Can even boil water if you need to.", "Is good for cooking, can be used as a paddle, a tennis racket, a bludgeon, as armor, as a snow toboggan... The possibilities are endless.", "Fossil fuel CEOs should all have their asses kicked out of their corner offices if for no other reason than us seeing someone grab them by the collar and kick them off the curb and into a puddle.", "Wow. I didn’t know all this. \n\nI never used cast iron until I moved into my current house, and it improved all my cooking. I have a shitty induction stove that does the click on/click off bulls bit.", "I just got a cheap one off Amazon and seasoned it like 4-5 times out of the box and it’s great now", "I think last winter's Texas power outages and anyone who's lived through a major winter storm that's had a power outage that lasted for weeks knows that relying on one type of energy source is a terrible idea.\n\nI know from experience about being [without power for weeks in the winter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2009_North_American_ice_storm). It sucks when the only source of hot water comes from electricity or the only way to cook food is from electricity. Half a bag of charcoal left over from summer doesn't last that long. They'll pry alternative heat sources from my cold dead hands before I put me and especially my family in that kind of situation ever again. The main things I look for in a house: gas water heater and stove and a fireplace that's either gas with a battery backup or just straight up wood burning.", "[January 2009 North American ice storm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2009_North_American_ice_storm) \n \n >The January 2009 North American ice storm was a major ice storm that impacted parts of Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky. The storm produced widespread power outages for over 2 million people due to heavy ice accumulation. The hardest-hit areas were in Kentucky with over 500,000 residences without power during the height of the storm, including 100,000 without power for over one week, and northern Arkansas, with 300,000 residences without power. This ice storm killed 65 people nationwide and 35 in Kentucky.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Way off on your units. It's a good argument, and I more than agree that most homes have more than enough electricity available. Standard service on new homes in the US is usually 200A/240V, ~ 48,000 watts. Some houses, and apartments may only have 100A, but that's still 24kw. So, electric is definitely feaseable, so long as you don't buy the garbage tier with the timer instead of a nice pwm controller.\n\nAlthough 7200 watts of electricity will only produce 24,000BTU in a resistive setting, much less than that 50000 you mentioned. This is why most electric ranges have an input of 50A/240v (12,000 watts). \n\nGas does have some advantages though, it's much cheaper per btu (less than half price), and it is much easier to deliver high amounts of BTU to a particular point. Whereas the biggest common outlet is 50A which limits stoves to ~ 40,000 BTU without being hardwired, Some gas stove can have 60,000 BTU on just the cooktop alone, without even including the oven. Gas is also \"cheap\" to control well, whereas a nice controllable electric cooktop is very expensive.\n\nGas also has the obvious disadvantages which are talked about in the video.", "In this type of place they will probably switch to gaz tank first if the local gov doest push for electric.\n\nYou donc actually need pipeline for the local distribution.", "Just buy a searzall for those times you need direct flame. Hell, just a butane torch without the spready bit is sufficient too.", "Yes, the heat comes on instantly and stops instantly when you switch it on/off.", "He talks about how, while gas stoves make up only a small portion (like 6%) of residential natural gas sales, they are used heavily in gas industry marketing to bolster public support for natural gas. This is because most people don't give a shit about how their home or water is heated, but do care how their food is cooked.\n\nTherefore, by constantly hyping gas as the ideal cooking method, the natural gas industry will always have at least some public support to rely on when it lobbies against laws to limit the use of gas in new buildings.", "no, imo green is behind because you have to do all this extra shit or spend all this extra money to do something that doesn't benefit you directly, the average person just doesn't have the care to do it. Which is a real shame", "And thats where the problem lies, why should the average person care enough to splash all this extra cash to get something thats just a bit better than a gas stove, which works just fine", "Per the video - cooking uses a fraction of the energy that water and space heating does. And there is a perfectly good range of single phase products available. There is not an infrastructure concern with induction cookers.", "TIL natural gas is the same as gasoline", "Noone talking about the main problem here. Fucking influencers again. Covert advertising is all it is.", "My conundrum is what do we do with our natural gas?\n\nWe know that methane is a worse greenhouse gas than co2. The options I see are:\n\n\nBurn It - produce a less harmful emmision in co2\n\n\nProduce hydrogen via SMR - still produces CO And CO2 in the process but H2 is a versatile clean fuel. \n\nAllow it to go to atmosphere\n\nI will agree that if we have to burn it it should be burnt in the most efficient ways possible but I don't know how I feel about shaming people for burning gas when it seems like the least detrimental route.", "I actually had that exact induction stove from ikea and it was shit exactly like you described. On/off like crazy.", "PAN-SHOT!", "Yup. When I moved I wanted to also move to induction but several issues became clear:\n\nInduction uses a lot of power and if you need 3 phase outlet or 40A single phase outlet (and this is in a 220V country).\n\nSo I go to the kitchen in a brand new building and guess what, no 3 phase outlet (despite the fact all apartments have 3 phases at the electrical cabinet), instead the contractors cheap out and connect two 20A breakers in parallel at the outlet so you \"technically\" get a high power single phase outlet.\n\nSo the induction is double he cost and I would have to either pay \\~500$+200$ in inspection fees to make an actual 3 phase outlet or find a unicorn single phase induction top and accept that every time I cook on more than 3 zones it will probably trip the breaker because of over-current YAY.\n\nInduction is the future for sure but it has it's hurdles.", "Sizewell C (the new UK power plant) is meant to provide something like 7% of the UK’s power needs. With 29mm households (and not including businesses which probably couldn’t rely on solar as their only source of power) here that’s got to be a significantly greater impact than 755k homes.\n\nI feel like the stronger argument here is other renewables like wind, hydro, tidal etc where the economics seem more viable, especially for the UK", "My apartment has an induction range, cheaper one at around $300, and there are some issues with how it works but I have to say the way a cheaper induction works is likely going to operate fine for the majority of people and what they cook.\n\nI have no problem keeping something at a general simmer and don't have problems with 90% of things I cook. On the 1-10 scale of the range, anything above 5 is always recieving heat and the difference is how intense it's heating up. It's very obvious that's the case because from 1-3, and a bit so on 4, you'll literally hear the magnets alternating between on and off and you will see some bubbles, then they stop. And to be clear, on a lower setting it doesn't get like a rolling boil and then stops, it at most gets simmering and then stops a bit, so it's not scorching your dish and then turning off. If you use more heat retaining cookware it's pretty much unnoticeable.\n\nThe main problems I've come across are stir-fry/wok dishes are kinda a no go. You can get a flat wok...but it's not quite the same. When making chili crisp and following Joshua Weissman's recipe, keeping the oil around the 150 F mark was a pain of constantly alternating between one setting not being strong enough and another pushing the temp up too much. And the last is while cast iron does work, it can retain a bit too much heat to where it triggers a fail safe that shuts off the burner. That was generally just a bit of a learning curve though (first cast iron skillet).\n\nThe thing is, there's a really easy solution for all of that. Buy one of those portable gas burners for when you really need what a gas flame provides. The ease of cleanup and being able to boil water on every burner super quickly it sooo much more convenient for the average use. Visiting my parents and using their relatively fancy gas range only made me more set on how much nicer having induction has been.", "Sounds fantastic, I've lived in a 9 houses never one with an induction cooktop but I can dream.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake-effect_snow\n\nThe snows in Buffalo can be pretty legendary.", "I think you might be comparing wattage and missing a step - induction hobs are about 95%+ efficient, but gas is more like 40%. If you want to compare wattage you have to take that into account. That said, I'm not sure where you are finding 1500w as the upper limit of power? Mine is 3.7kw. I think 1.5kw might just be the upper limit of units that can be plugged into the wall in NA? Dedicated wired ones can have far higher outputs.\n\nFrom my experience moving to a 3.7kw induction set up - it heats and cooks far faster in every way including searing, and a major part of the learning curve was realising that \"15\" on the hob was equivalent to a ridiculously large flame on a triple burner that will burn the shit out of anything extremely quickly.\n\nE/checked the wattage on my hob.", "Induction cooktops are a sin against cuisine", "Echo chambers are hot", "The irony of your comment is that fossil fuels push their agenda much harder than any ‘green’ group. \nFossil fuel advertising is so widespread and insidious that most of it doesn’t even register with us anymore. \nThe reason it doesn’t seem this way is because generally, ‘green’ activists shout loudly in an echo chamber of like minded opinions, whereas fossil fuel propaganda is persuasive throughout every aspect of all of our lives. \nA shining example is the extent to which fossil fuel groups have infiltrated the US education system. Literally indoctrinating people from childhood. \nThis is also not a recent problem. There are records from fossil fuel companies showing that these schemes Have existed since the 50s. \n\nThis is one reason why instilling positive change away from fossil fuels is so hard. People have been taught since childhood, by the fossil fuel companies, that green is impossible. \n\nWe are only now seeing significant moves towards renewal energy sources because of market pressure. I.e. it is now too expensive to sustain a fossil fuel model when pitted against renewal sources. \n\nIn summary, the squeak of the ‘green energy’ mouse in an echo chamber can be deafening when looked at in isolation. But in comparison to the cacophonous roar of the ‘fossil fuel orchestra’ it is drowned out completely", "> What are your thoughts on paedophiles? - if we take a principled stand against the lowest hanging fruit there is.\n\nHey now, this is topsy-turvy America land, where a not insignificant portion of the country simultaneously believes that paedophiles who have served time in prison for their crime should be summarily executed by vigilantes, but also that paedophile sex traffickers should be elected to Congress and left unquestioned.", "Heat pump water only gets up in the body heat temperature range. You need a secondary heater to push it over that edge into comfortable territory.\n\nAlso the big issue is sterilization in water tanks.", "klutz", "Downside of gas free is if the power goes you can't cook anything.", "\"Emotional argument can shape the public narrative even when the facts don't support them.\"", "It's insane that these companies can give such small warranties for things you would expect to last decades. In Australia the company would be forced to repair or replace under statutory warranty. Do you not have something similar where you are from?", "I am always amazed at how different North American and European markets are ... over here a nice high end induction stove costs around 600-800 euros (including tax) and the cheaper ones go for around 200-300 (still really good) ...\n\nBut I have to say that new houses built in the last 10 years don't have gas lines. And if they do, it's used only for heating. So that does drive the prices of induction stoves dramaticaly down.", "Watch the video? It's very much blaming the industry.", "When considering the type of stove to buy, replacing existing pans really shouldn't be a cost consideration, lol.", "\"greener\" alternatives...except it uses 10 times more energy for electric stoves to cook, and then those pesky power outages and all the strain on the power grid...ill stick with my gas stove, water heater, and furnace.", "I think he might have factored in relative efficiencies to get the 50,000BTUs number. Something the video misses is gas hobs are pretty inefficient in the area of 40% where as induction is closer to 95%. In terms of heating to the pan you need to double the numbers on the box for induction or more accurately halve the ones for gas. This also massively narrows the gap in cost of the power expenditure.", "Wait, are you actually seeing those red circles when in use like in the picture? Because if so, that is not induction...", "What type of electric stove? The point is there are many, and induction is the only one better than gas.", "I have induction, but I love my carbon steel wok, and while it sort of works, it’s not what the wok and wok cooking is designed for. It relies on heat moving up and heating the sides of the wok. With induction you get a hotspot at the bottom and very cool sides to which everything sticks.", "Only time I condone for gas is for stir-frying something in a wok. I'm glad that vid mentions that. Otherwise I'm all for induction.", "No light from mine, definitely induction cooker. It heats incredibly fast, can detect when the pan is there or not and had to get rid of some very old pans because they wouldn't heat.", "> because it's so much more powerful\n\nFound the guy who didn't bother watching the video, lol.", "QED: how to make a reactionary comment on Reddit", "The only real decent alternative to gas stoves are Induction stoves which incredibly expensive to buy and operate. Our power grids are old and outdated and could not handle the increase in demand if we suddenly all quit using natural gas or even if we all switched to electric cars. I hope we can fix that because we do need real green alternatives but that is going to mean we will need to use more nuclear, wind and solar to replace our current grid.", "What about getting a very wide pan and using the bottom of it?", "The video is on u\\/TwoTruthsAndATrump's side though. Gas is not \"so much more powerful\".", "Meh, that's just a lame excuse. There are plenty of reasons not to be on the bleeding edge of tech, but \"people on internet r rude so ill roll coal instead\" is not one of them.", "Didn't a lot of people have problems getting natural gas as well though? I mean, most of Texas' power plants use natural gas and failed because their pipes froze, lol.", "We have a ton of renewables in the UK but need more nuclear too.", "I actually was generous and gave the electric stove 100% efficiency. You are arguing from a place of ignorance. \n\nElectric converts to heat at 3.41 BTU per watt. The only time you get more is if you can take heat from somewhere else and move it (like in heat pumps) which actually operate above 100% efficiency.\n\nEven if the gas stove is less efficient, it is still FAR FAR less expensive to run, even including the reduced efficiency. \n\nAlso only some electric stoves are efficient, those tend to be the induction ones. the cheap ceramic resistor stoves blow heat all over the place when you cook on them.\n\nEDIT: fixed a typo", "> I lived in Austin for 10 years and had maybe one power outage a year\n\nThe fact you consider one a year as incredibly low only really highlights how bad the Texas grid must be, lol. Like, in Washington, over 10 years I've had maybe 2 outages total?", "The US isn't actually \"on 110 (you mean 120?) volts\" - it's [sneaky 240](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMmUoZh3Hq4).", "I've never understood gas stoves and have always viewed them as something clumsy to cook on. Nope, I'll take my flat black induction stove every day of the week", "Remember, the video is not talking about electric stoves, but induction burners, which are different.", "They make specific induction burners for woks which are dished. But if you are using a western flat-bottom wok on your current stove, you should still be able to get the same results on a flat induction stove.\n\nEven a normal gas stove is insufficient for true wok cooking. True wok cooking requires a wok burner with a very high energy output and a large flame that reaches around the wok to inflame some of the oil mist from stir-frying to get that \"wok hei\" flavour. The best home kitchen gas stove burners will put out between 4-5 kW of energy maximum. A good home wok burner will be at least 10 kW, the professional kitchen wok burners go up to nearly 60 kW.", "No, you're just forcing everyone's claims to an unreasonable extreme.", ">the ability to actually set it to hold 100c when I'm boiling something so it doesn't boil over\n\nWhat do you mean by this? 100c is the boiling point of water and you can't get the water any hotter because it turns to steam", "> Those leaks will occur regardless of my individual range choice\n\nWell, yes, but that's not the point - obviously this is all in aggregate. No _individual's_ range choice changes anything, but when they can convince an overwhelming majority of \"individuals\" to make the same choice it becomes a much bigger problem.", "Yes 100% of the time", "Ironically, while a lot of people were able to rely on their residential natural gas for cooking or heating during the Texas outage, that outage itself was caused in large part because of natural gas pipes freezing, which forced the plants to shut down.", "Same, during a power outage I can still make a warm meal and heat some water to bathe.", "I like gas. Oxygen in particular.", "> something thats just a bit better than a gas stove\n\nWell, if you want to insist that \"twice as good\" is \"just a bit better\", at least.", "My induction stove was dirt cheap and does this but it's not really an issue. Not 100% ideal to a pro chef perhaps, but enough for anything I cook and 1000000 times better than dealing with gas, or with a hot elctric stove.", "You are talking about an old electric hob not a glass topped induction hob. \n\nMy hob is literally just a sheet of glass. Spray with cleaner and wipe. No intricate burner to get gunky.", "That's about what we've come to expect from energy companies nowadays.\n\nThough I think people would easily switch if electricity cost less than gas, or if induction stoves cost less than gas stoves, or if they didn't already own a gas stove, or if they didn't have to also get rid of their entire oven and get a new one to go with the induction stove... etc... That said, people only use the stove for an hour a day at most on average I guess, so it's not going to change the world.\n\nI think the bigger issue is gas heating. You don't cook all day but your heating may be on 24/7 the better part of autumn/winter/early spring. And there ain't no solution to that that I know of.", "A quality sear should be entirely independent of the heat source, you need a pan with a high thermal mass which you get up to temperature, and when you drop the meat in the pan temperature should not drop significantly. If you are relying on your heat source to stay at searing temperature, you are using the wrong pan. With the correct pan, your only concern should be getting up to the correct temperature, in which case induction will be faster than gas.", "And 415V three phase is just three 240V phases wired in together, so if you have 240 you're not far off", "Heat pumps only work above freezing. When it hits freezing, the heat pumps turn off and the furnaces turn on. I had a house in Texas with heat pumps.", "He's advocating for induction, not electric coils. They are different things. An induction cooktop would work even better with your cast iron than the gas does.", "This whole video feels like a psy-op to make everyone think cook-top is a word", "Man, none of you bothered watching the video, lol.", "Depends on heat pump. Mine definetly works. The efficiency decreases as it gets colder, but it still runs even at zero degrees farenheit.", "Cooking with electric is possible during a gas outage. Can even boil water with it (and super fast with induction)", "You really should give a quality induction stove a go. It cannot be compared to a standard resistance electric stove. That said, I do also like gas for some specific cases as you say.\n\nMy ideal kitchen set-up (if and when I ever by a house and re-do the kitchen) would be like 3-4 induction burners for use like 90% of the time and 1-2 gas burners working off a gas bottle under the sink for the few times where I actually would prefer to use gas.", "On the east coast we lose power from bad thunder storms or hurricanes more than a few times a year. It's not a major issue but it's still nice to have hot meals when you lose power. Hurricane Isabelle in 2003 had us without power for over a week but we could still cook!", "During outages that were, ironically, mostly caused by freezing natural gas lines that forced power plants to shut down.\n\nThough that's not the fault of natural gas, that's the fault of Texas' hardon for deregulation and going so far out of its way to separate from the other national electrical grids just so they wouldn't have to spend a few bucks on winterization.", "> I have a gas stove and an induction cooktop.\n\nYou're living my dream.", "When you factor in energy cost, it doesn't", "Seriously. I've had maybe 2 power outages that were fixed in thirty minutes in the last 20 years.", "Yeah but I’ve got a grill and a camp stove if it’s really that critical.", "Maybe you should apply that logic to improving green solutions rather than trying to force them onto people who either can't afford or aren't willing to adopt them. \n\nSolar, wind, and hydro power aren't gaining incredible traction because they're being brow beaten into people, it's because they're by far the cheapest and most efficient developing energy technology. (Especially if you don't take into account fossil fuel subsidies)", "OK, I guess they just put those on the marketing image for whatever reason.", "What's the rough break-even in terms of pollution from the manufacturing/selling an new induction hob and disposing of the old gas one vs using my gas one until it breaks? Is it a 'if money is no object switch now' deal?", "If you think his tone is accusatory during the rest of it then you're really bad at reading tone, lol.", "I like how you changed what they actually said from \"Currently the least corrupt states are, Denmark...\" to \"in Denmark corruption is illegal\".\n\nSo honest, very accurate, much quote, wow.", "Electric doesn’t have to be induction, there’s still the coil type. They transfer heat much more efficiently, heat the pan faster, their hottest temperature is hotter than gas can do…", "The parent commenter literally said they need to make corruption illegal in USA. First sentence. How did you miss that?\n\nEDIT: If you want to talk about dishonest arguments, look at the one you are quoting. CPI does not measure level of corruption. It measures how much the citizens think there is corruption.", "> I'm still waiting on data for those claims\n\nUh, literally all his videos include sources? He sourced that claim _in_ the video you're whining about, lol.", ">you can simply give them a gas bottle and a stove and they'll figure it out. \n\nReminded me of the time me and my friends booked a holiday rental apartment for an overnight stay/sleepover. For context, most newer apartments/condominiums in my country (not in the US) use induction stoves. \n\nFriend of mine volunteers to cook breakfast the night before, so sure, no problem. The next morning, we were wondering why it was taking her so long to prepare breakfast (it was just eggs and sausages, nothing too complex). Turns out that while she was able to turn on the induction stove, she was waiting all this time for the stove to heat up more because she just assumed that it will eventually get hotter. She didn't realize there was a separate setting to turn the heat up until one of our other friends decided to check up on her to see why it was taking too long.", "Trying to boil a pot of water over a little flame fills me with sadness", "You're clearly missing the main point of the video. It doesn't matter how clean the electricity in your town is produced since that's not his main argument for not using a gas stove. \n\nIt's the fugitive emissions that are the main problem in using gas stoves. The severity of the greenhouse emissions escaping the infrastructure required to pipe gas to millions of homes are exceeding the severity from burning coal to produce electricity (which is the worse form of electricity production). \n\nThe solution here, as he is suggesting, is to switch to induction burners and electric heating so less gas pipes are laid out that increases the release of fugitive emissions.", "Yeah and that alone is a dealbreaker for me. I cook a lot, and often have all four burners running when preparing toppings for ramen soup or tacos or whatever, and I always need to wipe down the walls of my stove-corner after cooking, since shit goes flying everywhere.\n\nBesides, I get really goddamn tense when I cook sometimes, at least when at peak capacity or cooking for a larger crowd, and the incessant beeping of an induction stove is likely to result in a pot of scalding water flying through the kitchen haha.\n\nIf someone would just have the common fucking sense to build an induction stove with actual, physical, buttons, I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat.", "I mean my original post wasn't about the video lol", "Again, not watching the video. He said that he himself do not own an induction burner. The only thing he did is advocating for more uses of induction burners and why it's better in terms of greenhouse gas emissions. If you want to continue to use gas stoves, hey, that's your decision.", "I have a monster induction range cooker and while it can be wired to 3 phase it’s perfectly happy with 240v single phase.", "Not the point of the video. The bad thing about gas stoves are the fugitive emissions which are basically natural gas that escapes to the atmosphere while being piped to each home. Natural gas itself is made up of much more severe greenhouse gases than Carbon Dioxide and the rate at which natural gas is leaking to the atmosphere are already more than the amount needed to be on par with the greenhouse effect of burning coal for electricity.", "Right, but what allowance have you made for the inefficiency of gas?\n\nThe point isn't that induction hobs actually output 50,000BTUs, but that a gas hob that outputs 60,000BTUs actually only gets 25,000BTUs to the pan. In order to produce numbers that actually reflect cooking and can be compared between the two you have to factor in this inefficiency at some point. That can be either done by reducing the gas number, or by increasing the electric one above 100%. Both methods will produce valid numbers for comparison, though as my first post states reducing the gas number is obviously more accurate.\n\nIn terms of cost - that really depends on your local energy pricing. Where I am currently electricity is about 3 times the cost of gas per unit of power. Factoring in the relative efficiency of brings the cost difference to about 1.25 - gas is still cheaper, but not \"FAR FAR\" cheaper. If, like the last place I lived, gas is only half the price of electricity then induction actually works out cheaper.\n\nNo one here except you is talking about resistive heating. That's a strawman argument.", "No one is forcing you to watch the video. Just maybe don't try to argue against a video you haven't watched, because it just makes you look like an idiot.\n\nAlso, yeah massive cringe, and projection on the \"bad mood\" bit, lol.", "Another person who didn't watch the video. The main point he brought up was that the greenhouse effect from natural gas escaping to the atmosphere while being piped to homes is more severe than the greenhouse effect of using electricity made from burning coal. The thing he is actually trying to accomplish is to have less leaky natural gas piping infrastructure by reducing need to pipe gas to millions of homes.", "How can you tell someone didn't watch the video in question but still wants to give a snarky comment arguing against it? By making a point specifically addressed in the video. LOL", "Another argument given out without watching the video. Are you guys this stupid?", "Do you only own aluminum or copper pans? As long as there is iron in the metal they will work with induction.", "I picked up a little single 'burner' portable induction cooktop (actually, I got two) for like $100AUD each. I've had them for two years now and absolutely love them. I regularly cook on gas if I go and cook for my mother, most.\n\nOnly problem, and I don't know if it's just because these are cheap or that's the thing with induction, is that there's no real low-medium-hot, the temp is all based around how often the magnets kick in. So for a high temp, the magnets are always on, for a lower temp, they come on and off and on and off, so being there to stir a sauce (for example) when they kick on is important.\n\nBut hey, it makes you pay attention to your food a little more at least.", "It’s fast and precise.", "He's not advocating for a complete change to induction burners. He's just pointing why induction burners can be better especially in reducing fugitive emissions and how a lot of arguments for gas stoves are based on propaganda and emotion. If you're living in a place where electricity if not reliable, you're obviously using gas because you need to, and therefore are not what he's arguing against.", "> Yeah the most annoying part is that there isn't some technological limitation to putting actual physical buttons on there lol. They just choose to do it that way. It's like the trend to go all touch on cars, sure a nice screen in there is sweet but did you really have to remove stuff like physical switches for climate control or a volume wheel? Why not combine both for the best experience?\n\nHonestly I'd prefer a world where touch-screens were restricted to smartphones. Whether I'm in a car or at my stove I need tactile confirmation that I hit the right button. Touch-buttons are useless for circumstance where you aren't entirely focused on where the button is. \n\nI operate my stove on feel and rarely have to look at where the heat is set because I know the angle of each button at any given level of fire. Especially when I'm running a full stove + oven I just run my hand over all the buttons and in a split second I know what every pot is doing. Even more so because your brain learns things through touch more effortlessly than through sight, where the signals have to be interpreted before they are useful, requiring way brainpower and focus.\n\nLike, as you said, literally the only limitation is aesthetics.", "Do you think the current gas infrastructure only exists to fuel ranges? I think what we have is good supplemental forms of generation, but nothing we should force into its place, maybe nuclear but that has its own issues.", "Electric and induction burners are different, with the latter bejng the good one. Additionally, as I've learned in this thread, cheap induction burners work using timers rather than controlling heat directly. This is what causes food to be cooked in a shitty way. You should try out some proper induction burners before making your final conclusion.", "If you mean the single pit stand alone stove, it does have a noticeable on/off cycle, but it seems short enough that it hasn't caused me any issues, even with my low mass pan.", "Don't need much of an influencer other than the electric company itself with their variable rates and the fact the less expensive electric cook ranges tend to have a slow heat-up time. Also it's kind of dumb to push electric heavily where the grid isn't properly maintained.\n\nIn places where gas is already implemented, it's pretty clean burning and efficient. Also if electricity is disrupted for whatever reason (like an ice storm), use a lighter and the stove still works.", "Maybe, but the one I was replying to was. It addressed the video directly and therefore I replied to say the way you addressed it kinda has nothing to do with the point of the video.", "> Well, lets look at how electricity is produced first.\n\nIt's almost like that's what 90% of this guy's channel is about, huh, would you look at that.\n\nYou're not that clever.", "Dont throw away a functional gas stove for an induction oven you guys, thats bad for the environment. Whatever you are using let it run its life span", "Do you guys not know about normal electrical stoves?", "There is a simple way to stop people from using gas. Make electricity cheaper. Gas stoves and heaters are much cheaper than electric. Just the fan for my gas heater costs more than the gas for heat. Until electricity gets cheaper this won't work. \n\nAnd you. Yes you idiot that thinks they are clever. That doesn't mean tax gas until it's more expensive. As that will just lead to more people heating and cooking with other more dangerous fuels like propane or wood. \n\nMake electricity cheap and this works any other solution is trying to force people to your will that won't work out well.", "Yeah, they still work but they aren't as efficient as the furnace at that point. That's why the system switches to the furnace.", "There's heat pumps.\n\nBut heat pumps have two caveats. You either need to be where it doesn't get well below freezing for it to be effective, or you need an in-ground thermal well - but those tend to be expensive and possibly tricky to install.", "That's also addressed in the video. The reason the gas industry pushed for the use of gas stoves so much is because that's the only part of the infrastructure where most people, barring those that do need gas heating due to location/electricity reliability, actually care for the difference between gas and electricity. \n\nIf they can get more people to use gas stoves, the infrastructure now is already available for them to also use gas space heaters and water heaters, which means more people will likely choose to go with that. \n\nOn the other hand, if the video manages to reduce the number of gas stoves used by newly developed houses, then it is less likely that the space heating and water heating will be natural gas based, therefore reducing the amount of pipes needed to be laid.", "Have they solved the problem of using them when the power goes out?", "Is this satire, or just super cringe?", "Yes, absolutely. Induction can change quickly and is finely controllable so you can find the sweet spot.", "Is this something I'm not American enough to understand? Do you all use gas hobs?", "I have an science degree majoring in environmental studies and I prefer cooking on a gas stove. My house and my work are all 100% renewable and my current house has a ceramic cooktop and it SUUUUUUUUCKS* balls to cook on. I’d rather eat horse dick soup than have to cook with an electric cooktop forever", "My house has a 3.45kW breaker so it would be Very annoying to live arround an electric stove", "I am keen to move to electric fully but the cost of implementation across the board is quite hefty. \n\nRefitting a 1920s home with all electric and removing gas infrastructure seems like a huge cost burden.", "Until electricity generation is more than 80% carbon free, then replacing gas is stupid", "Happens in Australia too\n\nhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-13/living-with-victorian-power-outages/100211204", "It's not. The video only advocates for less gas stoves used in new housing developments to reduce the amount of gas pipes that have to be laid down. \n\nIt also shows that the gas industry also resorts to using propaganda and influencers to push more people to use gas stoves because that also makes the same people choose natural gas for space heating and water heating where they make the real money. I mean, once you have the pipes laid out for the gas stoves, why wouldn't you also use them for other heating use, too? \n\nThe ultimate goal of the video is too reduce fugitive emissions while the ultimate goal of the gas industry is to make profit while disregarding the environment. I'm not sure where politics come into this.", "Great YouTuber great vid. What's a good induction brand?", "What the Hell? Really? Heads roll in the UK if there’s any power outage that’s not a result of extreme circumstances.", "I've got a rather expensive induction range and its...magical...boils water insanely fast, isnt as dangerous for my kids, WAY easier to clean, is the perfect top for low simmers, the temperature control is amazing. The only thing ive not been able to do with it is cook my tortillas over a flame, ill prolly get a camping stove for my back porch for that honestly, oh and the price...the price is a downside...", "Sure, but gas has to be piped, leaks and if it burns incorrectly or leaks too much it can destroy your house or kills your family.", "Maybe it's one of those that uses a timer rather than controlling the current to control the heat. So it goes full heat for a period, then off, then on again. That's a very inefficient way of heating that also ruins plenty of dishes. It's exactly like the efficiency difference between a traditional ac unit and the newer inverter ac units.", "Green is behind because it makes people bleed green. When it reaches price parity or costs less than the other options, that's when the excuses for adopting it fade away.\n\nMeaning well is one thing, but in a practical sense it's not there yet.", "Seems like most people in this thread prefer to argue before watching the video.", "If it happens regularly enough that it makes a difference, then just stick to a gas burner as that seems to be your need. The video only care about reducing the amount of gas pipes being laid as that's where a lot of the greenhouse gas leakage comes from.", "Electricity production don't use batteries.", "All your comments in this thread have nothing to say about the actual content of the video. You are doing the thing you are complaining about.", "ITT: People who have nothing to say about the video but just want to circlejerk about they think others haven't watched the video.", "Another point of the video is that the main problem with gas stoves is not the combustion, but the leakage of natural gas while being piped to each home. Natural gases are made up of gases with more severe greenhouse effect than carbon dioxide, which is why it's more important to curb this than the combustion of natural gas. \n\nWhat he's advocating is to reduce the amount of gas pipes being laid by using more induction heaters where possible.", "Pilot lights are not a thing anymore.", "So keep using it if you think so. It's what he specifically said in the video. \n\nJust keep a lookout for the gas industry's propaganda and make sure your opinion is actually your own.", "Are we not burning coal in a lot of places to produce electricity?", "That's an electric stove. What he's recommending is the induction burner, which works differently and generally better.", "Please watch the video first before commenting.", "In what way does this relate to the video?", "That's not his argument. If you really need to use a wok, just go for a gas stove. He's only trying to reduce the overall number of gas stoves being selected for new housing developments in order to reduce the amount of gas pipes being laid, not that induction burners are always the right choice.", "Not the point of the video. It's only advocating induction burners as an alternative to reduce the amount of gas pipes being laid. He points out in what way induction burners have an advantage over gas stoves, not that induction burner is always the superior choice in all situations, so your argument is kinda moot.", "It is much easier to regulate the heat you're applying to a pan when you can see the flame.", "I kinda feel bad that you guys can only go for gas stoves using piped gasline only. No option at all for tank supplied gas stoves, which would also solve the main problem the video had with gas stoves.", "And if you live anywhere where you get hurricanes you just lost the ability to cook. During the Northridge earthquake my home had no power for over a week. I had a gas range while friends and family had electric. \n\n\nI also found many electric ranges also dont get hot enough for hard candy making, my current home has no gas lines at all run to it so we have a nicer induction unit but it too struggles to get to temps for candy making.", "As the video mentioned, having a gas stove probably means he also has gas heating since they share pipelines. It's the sole reason the gas industry is pushing for gas stoves despite it only being a small portion of their revenue.", "Thought I mentioned it but I was getting a plate, not replacing an entire range.", "He’s being hyperbolic. I grew up in rural northeast and it was rare for power to go out. Pretty much only during bad thunderstorms (for maybe the night) and freezing ice storms (maybe a few days). \n\nBut that’s only a few times a year at max, if at all in a given year. Not something people really planned around.", "I like gas ranges , hate electronic ranges .", "I have more feelings about cooking an uncracked egg", "Yeah, it gets them into the untapped residential market, but that still nothing in terms of almost any of the other uses. I get the whole, do your part, together we can make a larger impact sentiment in the video and fair enough. According to [https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/natural-gas/use-of-natural-gas.php](https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/natural-gas/use-of-natural-gas.php) residential natural gas usage is pretty much stagnated for the last 50 years and in some cases been lower. While just generating electricity with the use of natural gas is rising very quickly. If everyone were to use more electricity, the natural gas consumption still increases no matter what you do until you change the source, the biggest consumers of natrual gas. So while it sounds good and feels good, you're really not doing much, if anything to really slow down the usage of natural gas.", "That’s crazy considering how important power is today. I live in Denmark where power outages almost never happens, for the last 15 years I have experienced 2 power outages which lasted for a maximum of 5 minutes each.", "The biggest issue I had moving from gas/electric to induction is that some of my pots and pans were aluminium, so did not work on the induction cooktop.\n\nNot a big deal me; it was only 2 items, I just replaced them. But other people might have more of a problem with that.", "Have to look at the bigger picture with gas vs induction. With gas, a large % of the heat goes right by the pan, some say only around 40% goes into heating the pan, and the rest heats the air in the kitchen…. Or gets sucked back outside with the vent hood. Sure, the heat is produced efficiently but is not delivered to the pan efficiently. With Induction, 90% goes into the pan - allowing you to have a much smaller exhaust hood - saving energy (induction doesn’t use resistance heat). If you are in a climate that requires air conditioning, you AC will run longer/harder with gas to cool the kitchen air that you just heated. I think crappy regular electric stoves with resistive heat are still something like 75% efficient. \n\nAside from energy costs you should consider air quality…. a gas stove dumps bad combustion gasses into your home and induction does not, which means in a new efficient home your don’t need as much fresh air, making your whole system cheaper. Also if you go to solar power, or as your regional power grid becomes less carbon based, your stove will get greener, while the gas stove will always have a steady carbon footprint. \n\nSource, I’m an Architect and love my gas stove…. But am building a new high efficiency house for my family and removing combustion completely… going all electric - so have done a lot of research. Same argument with a water heater…. Look at how much hot air goes right back outside through the exhaust.\n\nOf course I will admit that the new induction stove I’m putting in takes a 50 amp circuit, and most old houses simply would not support that so in the real world gas is the better solution for older homes.", "Yeah, I've got a flat bottomed steel wok for my induction top, and it's much more difficult to cook with...but it's better than nothing, and still gets the job done!\n\nFor literally everything else induction is a dream though!", "I love that the UK power grid had to [account for additional load when the ad break comes on and people put their electric kettles on!!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup)", "I switched from a gas stove to an electric and I miss the hell out of the gas. I don’t know why it feels different cooking now but it just is\n\nOther than that. A lot of countries depend on natural gas as energy, as their only alternatives are worse sources like coal. Its okay switching to green but it’s not an overnight thing.", "and now here I am complaining about you complaining about me complaining about not talking about the video, while not talking about the video. Is that irony? Or farce? Or are we all too far down this rabbit hole?", "Yeah, like what are you supposed to do when you're renting?\n\nHell, if you buy a house and it has a gas (or one of those shitty electric element cook tops) you're probably not gonna rush out a drop the best part of a grand or 2 on a new induction top. You've gotta be cashed up and/or motivated, and it's probably not high on your to-do list.", "yes\n\nmore (thermal) mass just means it takes longer for something to heat up, but it also means it takes longer to cool down. so with a more massive object it means that any energy you put into the object takes longer to change the temperature of it, which smoothes out the pulsed energy to what the average of the pulsed energy would be\n\nthe material also matters; some materials are better conductors of heat than others. the better it conducts heat, the quicker it can absorb energy, but also the quicker it can lose it", "According the the 2nd law of thermodynamics, no heat transfer is 100% efficient. \nWhen chemical energy at the power plant is converted into electrical energy, energy is lost.\nWhen the electrical energy is turned into heat energy by your electric stove, energy is lost again. \nIf your electricity comes from a plant that uses fossil fuels, gas appliances have a smaller carbon footprint. This is also why gas utilities are cheaper.", "I have a cast iron wok with a flat bottom that works well. If you don’t use a wok much, you could buy one of those terrific little Japanese portable butane burners.", "Regular electric sucks, induction is a whole different thing.", "Recommended method for dealing with Jenny Green Teeth.", "The coils are an obnoxious surface as not every pan is the right size, and glass tops have their own set of problems and certainly lose the efficiency factor.\n\nFirst 30 years of my life I bounced around various electric cook tops, but now that I own my house? Gas. Love it. So much nicer of a cooktop.", "Exactly why. The mass will heat up and will take longer to cool with an intermittent heat source.", "Yeah that is a specialist device. Nobody has these on a standard kitchen induction unit.", "Climate change kills lots of puppies", "It used to be that almost all electricity came from coal. Now many grids are slowly shifting to renewables which makes your electric appliances get greener with the grid. The gas stove will always be putting carbon into the atmosphere.", "Love gas stoves, but having one would fray my nerves if I also had kids.", "?? \nWe can also get propane stoves. I don't believe so in more urban areas, but upstate there's plenty of people who use propane for stoves and heating.", "Yes, this is the hidden cost everyone ignores…. With gas you need more air conditioning to cool the air in your house that the gas just heated… and then there is air quality with the nasty emissions of a gas stove.", "Even if you get your power from a natural gas plant, the induction stove top is probably using more natural gas all-in than a gas cooktop. You're not burning any gas at your house, but the power company is essentially running a giant natural gas burner to boil water to drive the turbine to send power through (lossy) powerlines to your house to be turned back into heat on your stove top.", "Natural gas is about 1/6th the cost per btu compared to electrify where I live. I believe it's similar in a lot of places in the US", "I found most of Adam's arguments to be highly specific to his experience with some weaker stoves. I've been forced to cook on various electric cook tops for a good decade and it was awful. I would literally have to move the pan off the stove in order to get fine control over the heating. Tried induction but as someone else pointed out you really need to shell out the big bucks if you want a good induction cooktop\n\nFinally have gas again and love every second of it.", "Buy an Iwatani portable butane burner for using a wok. As a bonus you can use it outside.", "Induction is also great for precision. I won't cook on gas again if I can help it.", "Found the guy op was referencing, lol.", "Guy looks like Joel Haver's cousin", "Don't care. Talk about the video or stop circlejerking.", "I guess I've never used one. Electric stoves and their seeming inability to maintain a steady temperature and lack of standardization on temperature have never cooked as well for me. With gas it's always a steady heat and I can just look at the flame.", "Yep, I’m an architect designing and building an all electric home for my family and I was resistant at first, but it is absolutely the best solution. Using a Bosch induction stove combined with an electric heat pump HVAC system and heat pump water heater. Electric heat pumps have gotten extremely efficient in recent years. My regional power grid is shifting to 60% renewable power over the next 15 years so even if i don’t go solar my home will just keep getting greener.\n\nIn the big picture, removing combustion appliances means your house needs less cooling and less fresh air, so far more efficient. Fresh air is only needed based on the co2 from the people breathing and not needing to cycle out dirty combustion air.", "I work for a company that makes a model very similar to that one. You'd be surprised how many restaurants are still resistant to switching over even after demonstrating the clear benefits.", "Same. My electric kettle saves me from that", "the US is a literal third world country confirmed.", "What a strange way to make spaghetti", "Iwatani portable butane gas burners work brilliantly, cost $50 and are great for camping, wok cooking, or frying fish outside. I’ve lost power a few times over the years and cooking is typically the least of my worries.", "\"i won't help the climate because some activists did something i didn't agree with\"", "That’s what my wife has learned to do. Turns on the cooktop, cracks her egg into the pan, and goes to put on makeup (or w/e)", "I have 100 year old cast iron pans that are perfectly flat and work great on induction.", "the texas power outage was caused by mismanagement, not because you relied on one power source. its not that its a terrible idea to rely on a single power source, its a terrible idea to vote for the dogshit politicians in power and rely on a single power source", "All the people using gas to cook and heat their homes is the reason the power plants ran out of gas", "The point is that more pipelines are laid by supplying natural gas to millions of residential than just going to a centralized power plant. Less pipelines laid, less natural gas leaks.", "Induction should work perfectly with carbon steel? Maybe yours are too thin?\n\nYou can buy a little portable gas burner if you occasionally need to roast peppers. Or a butane cooking torch.", "Except there is no reason why that should be the future? There is no reason why you couldn't just use a separate gas burner fed from a bottle for those purposes, but still cook most things on an induction stove. That would avoid all the pipe leakage in the distribution network, and you could use bio methane or power to gas methane, so it's even climate neutral.\n\nJust because we need to move people over to electric cooking generally, doesn't mean you can't still cook with an open flame where it actually matters.", "Not correct at all…at least when compared to induction. Assuming you didn’t watch the video.", "Are propane stoves and gas stoves compatible with each other? \nIn my country, natural gas are only supplied in tanks, not in pipes, so the problem mentioned in the video is mostly avoided.", "People using gas to cook and heat there homes is the reason the power plants ran out of gas", "To be fair, Ames' utilities just suck. When I lived there, any sort of wind-related storm risked some part of town losing power.", "Exactly lol! I lived in NJ and NYC for my whole life and the only power outages I can remember were hurricanes Sandy, Irene and a couple others random small interruptions over the last 20-something ish years.", "People using gas to cook and heat their homes is part of the reason why the power plants ran out of gas.", "You can use them, just need to be a bit more careful.", "Get an Iwatani portable butane burner for occasional wok use.", "No. It's either you get a natural gas or propane range. Due to different pressures of each there aren't any dual fuel propane/natural gas ranges.", "you need three cables at most. one for your water heating and one for your cooktop. and you don't need 6 gauge, you need 8 gauge which is way cheaper.", "because the planet they live on won't support their lives anymore otherwise.", "Yes, and we have 230V. Which is actually 400V line to line three-phase.", "All these comments are missing the fact that the video is about how natural gas is paying influencers to spam social media. That most comments on the topic that anyone will every see will be paid for by natural gas. They video and natural gas internal documents are very clear about the benefits of induction and gas. But that gas is choosing to push \"emotional arguments\".", "Having done a fair amount of electrical work on my house you are not telling me anything new or useful. Standard US outlets are 110-120, which are variously informally referred to as 110, 115, or 120. Not many kitchens have an extra 240 outlet for the kettle, and kettles that would use 240 are not generally available, so practically we are limited to the lower voltage kettles. \n\nThanks for the pedantry though. Always good to be reminded that offhand quips on Reddit will always have a pedant to correct anything less than perfect technical correctness.", "1. It doesn’t take forever\n2. Induction is different than regular electric and faster than gas.", "bruh the only thing forcing people is the climate. you think people who care about green solutions do it for any other reason? if we don't adapt a lot of us die. its that simple. by continuing to use fossil fuels, we kill a giant portion of the world, and cause immense suffering. inaction simply isn't an option, we need to make relatively small sacrifices now.", "I think the distinction between simple electric and induction hobs is being lost a bit, and they are very different beasts that you can't lump together. No one here is advocating the simple electric hob, but induction can be really good.\n\nI've got almost the exact opposite story to you, bounced around mostly gas hobs for the first 30 years of my life, then bought a house with a good quality induction hob. I thought I would have to replace it, preferring gas, but have found it to be better in basically every way.", "They fucking suck compared to gas. I’d switch to a greener alternative if they made the experience remotely comparable.", "There are induction stoves shaped for wok pans.", "Not saying all touch controls aren't as shit as that, but some aren't as unreliable. I've got a GE Profile halogen range that was in my house when I bought it and it's got touch controls. They're not that bad for touch controls. Responsive, the whole \"button\" actually responds when I tap on it, works even if I've got messy fingers, doesn't seem to get phantom presses when stuff spills.\n\nThat said it's still more complicated than just having a knob, but it does make cleaning a bit easier and then my counter is otherwise a completely flat surface.", "Think that still falls into competent leadership and infrastructure. I lived in Canada for 4 years and never lost power once lol", "Natural gas has an energy cost for refining and production as well, but generally I agree with you regarding looking at the big picture. Thankfully the grid here in my region is planning to flip to 60% renewables in the coming years, so my all electric house will gradually become more efficient. Even better if i spring for solar. Gas appliances will be transferring carbon into the atmosphere always. Also around 9% of natural gas leaks directly into the atmosphere during transport. Efficiency aside, this is worse than burning coal environmentally. \n\nAlso, with a gas stove the majority of the energy does not go into the pot, it heats the air in the kitchen. If you are using air conditioning, you then need it to run longer and use more energy to cool that air you just heated. Not even addressing air quality concerns with combustion in your kitchen. Induction burners transmit 95% of their energy into the pan.\n\nI’m building a super efficient highly insulated all electric home (am an Architect) and removing combustion completely from the home means it can be extremely tight and won’t need much fresh air.", "It's easier to install solar and have your own supply of electricity rather than dig your own gas well and refine on site if you're worried about utilities failing.\n\nOr just get a camp stove in case of emergencies.", "Why would you keep engaging with someone who is clearly having fun fucking with you.", "Ahhh so you have a natural bias towards maintaining the petroleum industry :)", "In Texas gas distribution is legally required to service residential customers first then industrial usage including power generation. So mostly residential gas was OK but power plants couldn't get enough for running even partially.", "You get many hurricanes, tornadoes, and hailstorms with 1\" hail often in your part of Washington?\n\nWe had a few days a month ago where we had 50-60mph peak winds 30mph sustained, all day for a few of days in a row. That's like super severe thunderstorm level winds, just constantly blowing, for days.\n\nThat said the only power outage I've had at my home was when someone hit the utility pole down the street from my house at high speed. I haven't lost power from a storm in several years.", "> \"green,\" is behind because buying a new stove will have more of an impact, will generate more emissions and pollution, than continuing to use your existing gas stove that you current own.\n\nCan you show the numbers on this?\n\n> a lot of shit that gets pushed as \"green,\" isnt actually better for the environment. you have to think about issues critically and logically.\n\nWell, true. I just get the strong impression that you haven't.\n\n> from the mining and refining of materials,\n\nThat one in particular doesn't make any sense. Your gas stove is primarily steel, so, when you replace it with an induction stove, it gets recycled, and an induction stove can be made from it, no need to mine and refine any new material there.\n\n> this is true for a lot of consumer goods from an environmental stand point. its much better to keep existing things in use and repair and maintain them...than to buy new shit.\n\nWhile true, there absolutely are situations where it makes sense to switch over or where you just have to buy new anyway, so it makes sense to be aware of the options. Obviously, it doesn't make sense to just throw away all fossil fueled equipment tomorrow and replace it with new equipment that's powered by coal-powered electricity. But people need to be aware of the options now so they can transition as the opportunity arises and avoid buying new gas stoves, for example.", "People are kind of obsessed with gas cooking and replacing it with electric cooking to reduce green house gases. However, this obviously only works if the electricity one uses is made from carbon neutral sources. And, maybe an even more important point: Only a minuscule amount of gas is used for cooking (less than 1 % of the overall gas consumption in the US and less than 3 % of the average private household consumption). It's just what everyone talks about because it's so visible. For private households it's all in space and water heating.", "\"Canada\" can mean wildly different levels of weather. It's the biggest country on the continent. How often did your area get 2m of snow overnight?", "That's a fair point. I've always just used a blowtorch for anything I've wanted to sear like that, but I can see that there would be times you would need a bigger flame.", "Thermal capacity is the even more important material property. Heating a kg of aluminum by 1° simply takes more energy than heating a kg of iron by 1° (by a [factor of ~two](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_specific_heat_capacities)).\n\nIt is also noteworthy however, that any energy that remains in the pot when you're done cooking and leave it to cool off is lost to the cooking process. Cookware with high thermal mass is inherently less efficient, for the same reason that resistive stoves (which have a bunch of thermal mass within the heating elements) are.", "Lol never because it never happened. The greatest day of snowfall ever in Canada was 1.5 meters.", ">incoming era of heatpumps\n\nHeat pumps are actually capable of bringing in more heat energy than they use in electrical energy and could lower the electrical usage compared to traditional electric heating. Would still be increased draw when replacing gas or oil heat though.", "I've got a few touch-screens in my house as well, but the difference is whether they're on an object you only interact with when you're very focused on something else. I don't mind it on my fridge cus when I'm looking at my fridge I usually aren't doing much else.", "Forcing? Are you retarded. Stop pushing the agenda so hard Deveak is getting FREE gas. He’s not switching just so you can feel more self righteous about your life choices.", "... and how do you ever disconnect the entire street if people keep buying new gas stoves?\n\nThe first step towards stopping those leaks is that individual people switch to electric cooking, especially when they need to buy a new stove anyway. Then, when only a few are left, you can force them to either switch over or to switch to gas from a bottle, and then you can disconnect the street.\n\nThe only alternative would be to just one day declare that gas will be disconnected and thus force people to throw out all their stoves, even if they were bought yesterday, and that obviously would be a bad idea.", "Yeah I’d argue that NJ gets hit worse than upstate NY because of freezing ice storms and it’s really not that often besides the big ones. Like the one in the winter of 2017/2018", "It's extremely uncommon to have tanks of natural gas, as it doesn't liquefy easily. To liquefy natural gas you either need insane pressure or cryogenic systems. You're probably using propane, not natural gas. In places where there isn't natural gas infrastructure propane tanks are common, with a big tank in the back yard that people will fill maybe once a season. It's really only seen in the more rural and tiny old towns in the US.\n\nhttps://texasstarpropane.com/images/gal03.jpg\n\nThat said the problem isn't really avoided. You've still potentially got leaks all over the place. Even just filling up this tank usually involves leaking a little bit. It's often all the little connections to each building that's the leaky part, which you still ultimately have even if it's just a big tank outside. Decently run gas companies can usually figure out even small leaks in their main lines, but it gets difficult to tell what is customer leakage or usage after the majority of their equipment.", "That's a political problem, not a technical problem, which also means that it is purely incidental that your gas supply kept working. If you want to solve that, you have to make political changes to make sure that your energy distribution network is competently run, not cling to natural gas.\n\nAnd if you want to have an individual solution to this political problem, you should buy a gas bottle, because that's the only way to be sure you won't be without heat next time the incompetently run system fails.", "Without comparing the cost of the units and the ongoing cost of the amount of electricity used vs gas used this doesn't really tell us much. Restaurants run on such thing margins it could be a big deal and they could be making an understandable decision.\n\nBy the way, for some reason your name cracks me up!", "And even then I didn't lose power hahaha!", "I’m in San Antonio and its not too uncommon for people to get a couple of power outages year at least. The flooding gets bad over here, or storms, and trees knock down power lines. Or flooding will saturate the ground and break underground pipes which will cause them to turn off water sometimes.", "Never thought I’d see people defending induction. I’ve had that at my old place. Never again.", "I'll stick with gas. I can still cook when the power goes out. That happened about 6 times one year.", "My induction cooktop is one of the best purchases We’ve ever made.\n\nHad to give away the awesome pots and pans set we got from getting married but would do it again.", "Last year, we were without power for FIFTEEN days in a row. During the coldest storm we have had in almost as long. \n\nSo yeah, we do. \n\n(I live in DFW, in a gated community, and lots of others close by had longer outages.)\n\nNo way would I give up my gas stove. It kept us in warm food, and we heated water on the stove JUST TO WARM THE HOUSE. \n\nGregg Abbott can go die. And take Ted Cruz the f with him.", "Plenty of renters don't even have a choice in what vent hood they have. And because internal recirculating hoods are much cheaper and easier to install, that's what landlords put in. Again, it's not as simple as \"Just get a good vent hood\".\n\nAlso you must have missed the part of the video where he talks about massive losses of methane to the atmosphere due to all the piping going to residential homes. And methane is an even worse greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. You'd literally be reducing greenhouse gas effects by using resistive heating powered by gas power plants instead of more efficient gas boilers at home.", "Same here, and I've only been alive for 21 years.", "Is it better for the energy bill? You're still using electricity to generate heat, and for the time being I thought natural gas was cheaper in terms of BTUs.", "> because electric heating costs so much!\n\nIt doesn't. Resistive heating costs so much! Electric heat pumps are much more efficient.\n\n> Natural gas uses at the power plant may be 50% efficient at converting heat to electricity and my electric furnace is near 100% efficient at converting that electricity to heat, but burning natural gas in the home produces 100% of the heat with no loss.\n\nAnd a heat pump can be 400% efficient, so even if you run it with electricity from a 50% efficient gas power station, that's still twice as efficient as burning the gas in your home.\n\nThe overall efficiency of heat pumps very much depends on the weather where you live, though.\n\nAlso, burning natural gas in the home isn't 100% efficient because you can't just burn it as an open flame in your living spaces, and heat exchangers don't extract all the heat. It's pretty close, though, with a modern one.", "Didnt your nat gas infrastructure freeze as well?", "What others have said about power only going out a few times a year in areas affected by extreme weather is true. However, given the push to shift electricity generation to renewable sources, expect more blackouts in the next twenty or thirty years, until we come up with a technology to reliable store battery power at scale or give up and build nuclear plants. The coal and gas plants that provide steady-state power (backup to wind and solar farms) are getting older, more prone to shutdowns for maintenance, and they aren't getting replaced by new ones.", "It's funny how forcing climate change on people who can't afford it tends to be just silently ignored by people like you ...", "I made a point to buy an induction range that had knob controls for the burners. But it wasn’t cheap. I think I had maybe 2 options if I didn’t want the buttons?", "Thanks i appreciate it", "Is your point that we should have sucked it up and died so the power plants would have more gas? Because that is about where we were. \n\nNo food, no heat, no places open, during a pandemic. \n\nBut we should not use the only resources available to us, bc it would be bad for the power plants THAT DIDNT WINTERIZE AND DIDNT CARE IF WE DIED? \n\nSo sorry if it was inconvenient, but we fed 6-7 houses on our street, and huddled under blankets in a room “heated” by boiling water. \n\nTwo of us still wound up in the hospital. But thanks for the admonition. \n\nThis year, we will just freeze, I guess?", "Operating reserves are required where energy storage is poor. This is exactly what pumped hydro schemes solve, and they don't even require damming a river. There's multiple examples of raised reservoirs built next to large lakes in Europe. These get pumped with water during low demand / high supply times, and then ran through standard hydro turbines when the demand soars or renewables can't quite keep up.\n\nOnly the blades of the turbine are made of non-recyclable composites too. Everything else is metal or concrete, and can be reused. Not to mention that the concrete used in wind farm construction is probably just a blip on the global consumption of concrete, and is offset by the fact that these farms generate green energy after construction.\n\nCompare that to coal, which emits toxic gasses into atmosphere and leaves behind toxic coal ash. Or gas pipelines leaking massive amounts of methane into the atmosphere, which is an even worse greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.\n\nAll power generation techniques have drawbacks, but calling wind worse than fossil fuels is simply disingenuous.", "... and that it purely incidental that your gas supply still worked. If you properly design and maintain your electric grid, then you should not ever experience such outages. And if you don't, there is no reason why next time the gas supply shouldn't also shut down. In particular when you consider that a major reason for the electricity going out was that the natural gas supply for power stations was dropping out ...", "Not to mention that electricity in the US burns coal.\n\nIf you're in West Virginia running an electric stove that electricity is the product of burning coal and burning natural gas is generally 'greener'\n\nAnd you experience efficiency losses in the transmission of the power and conversion to heat.\n\nSay your in California and your under the impression that your electricity comes from natural gas, you could still cut out the generator inefficiencies and the transmission inefficiencies by burning the fuel right below the pan rather than converting it from combustion heat to electricity in a power plant transmitting that electricity to a house and then converting the electricity into heat inside an induction stove.\n\nDid anyone mention how well gas stoves work?", "Climate Town is one of my favorite channels on YouTube. 100% my style.", "Does propane stoves get as hot as natiral gas stoves? I've never used propane stoves other than the small ones used during camping.", "Addition: your cookware has to be induction compatible, and not all cookware is.", "That's absolutely no problem. If it is built for woks.", "Propane heats more when compared side by side.", ">And that's not even counting the billions in maintenance a Nuclear plant would cost to maintain, fuel, store nuclear waste and eventually decommission.\n\nNuclear is relatively cheap to maintain and incredibly cheap to fuel. The biggest problem with the finances of nuclear is that it's very expensive upfront whereas coal is cheap upfront and expensive in the long run. The cost of construction along with the interest to finance it causes the economics to fall apart without government grants/financing.\n\nAs far as waste goes, over 99% of the waste that we currently have is recyclable and re-fissionable, it just takes a breeder reactor to make it happen.\n\nReally, every problem with nuclear is solvable except the 'nuclear scary' narrative that bounces around the heads of most Americans.", "I've often argued that the boomer generation unintentionally doomed future generations to climate change because of their short-sighted fear of nuclear energy.", "That depends on the model. While true for most models (so far), induction heating does work with aluminum just fine if the frequency of the magnetic field is high enough, which is mostly a matter of improvements in switching semiconductors, which is why I would kinda expect universal induction heaters to becomethe norm sooner or later.", "Someone edited comments somewhere. Induction > gas, according to climate town.", "....... Maybe don't talk about my local infrastructure if you don't even have any idea of what dealing with that much snow even entails? Y'all get cold weather and such, but literal tons of frozen water settling on top of buildings, trees, power lines, roads and such overnight is a LOT to deal with. It's not every year, it's every \\~10 years or so, and as such it does cause temporary power outages. When that happens, it's nice to be able to eat hot food and drink hot drinks.", "Astroturfing has made the internet a worse place.", "No", "It's not that it bleeds money, but that it has higher up front costs. Most people are unable to afford higher short term costs un exchange for future savings. Many more are unwilling to do so. Humans are very focused on short term rewards while green tech typically promises long term benefits.", "The important point to understand here is that induction heaters produce the heat in the bottom of the pot, so essentially the heating element is directly touching the food, which is why you get such good control, compared to all other methods that apply heat to the outside of the pot.", "I included both examples to show it *can* be both political and natural. When you get that that much ice to where it turns every tree into splinters and takes down every power line, no amount of politics will make electricity work.", "The process of converting electrical energy to heat may not be as efficient as burning gas to get heat. \n\nIf electricity comes from renewables, great - get an electric, but if your electricity comes from a Gas plant; then you’re literally wasting energy by burning gas to generate electricity to turn back into heat - it may not be as efficient as straight gas to heat\n\nPeople need to take into consideration where their power comes from before they make “green choices”\n\nFor example - China is the largest electric car market, but their electric cars run about 26% dirtier than a fossil fuel vehicle - because most of Chinese electricity comes from coal.", "That's why I also included the scenario that was 100% [a natural disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2009_North_American_ice_storm). Try to keep up.", "Well, they can be. Most NG ranges either come with the necessary parts to change over, or they will sell them to you as an accessory.", "I live in a hurricane area as well. 15 days without power cooking on NG and propane just a few years ago.", "“With none of the air pollution”\n\n- well that really depends on where your electricity comes from \n\nrenewables? Yeah great, no air pollution\n\nGas or coal plant? You might be causing more air pollution than if you had a gas stove - burning fossil fuels to convert to electricity to turn back into heat energy down the road is a wasted step and an inefficient way to generate heat.\n\n- I’m a fan of induction, but it might not be the best choice for everyone", "Can you use a wok with it and get it hot enough?", "The oldschool electric ones are just awful. I hate them so much. Gas wins over those any day.\n\nApparently induction is awesome though, next time I need to get a top, it'll be induction.", "Yah I was getting annoyed by the tone of the other comments. Sorry about that.", "I haven't seen the video yet (I actually saw it in my suggestions a couple of times). We have induction at home, one reason because it's just much easier to clean.\n\nBut for the environmental aspect I think it only works if your energy is clean. Like if you use electricity generated with a dirty coal energy plant it's probably worse.", "You might be lol", "Gas is cheaper than electric by a long shot around here. At least in my house. My gas bill is never above the minimum charge except in the winter, so if I had an electric stove it would cost me $more for 100% of the energy use. When my electric dryer craps out I’m switching it to gas as well.", "Regarding the wok problem there are induction stoves that are shaped for wok pans (like a bowl). You can get one that's integrated or a portable one you plug into an outlet.", "It kinda can't, though.\n\nThe thing is that there is no inherent \"temperature that's too cold for reliable electricity supply\". It's purely a matter of engineering to make the electricity supply reliable under whatever conditions you want to make it reliable under--and of political will to have that engineering done.\n\nYou can put power lines underground, you can clear vegetation around power lines, you can design power lines for higher ice and wind loads, ... whatever the circumstances might be, you can design a electricity delivery system that works reliably under those conditions. There is no such thing as \"takes down every power line\", unless your power line was specifically designed for less ice load than that.\n\nAnd to the degree that it is true (i.e., really exceptional weather that you couldn't possibly reasonably have planned for), there is no reason to assume that your natural gas would be any more reliable, because natural gas supply infrastructure also doesn't have natural immunity to natural disasters, and also will only survive such events as well as it was designed for.", "Massachusetts, we just had a several day long power outage actually and thank God I replaced my electric stove that already had 3 broken burners with a gas stove or else I would be cooking food over my fireplace for a week again. Power outages are at least once a year, maybe two, and its probably only going to get more frequent tbh", "if they're called 2min noodles. how can you be faster?", "You can, but its not as good as natural gas.", "What's your minimum? Ours is like $35. And $35 in electricity is a huge amount of power.", "You're wrong. Heat pump is more efficient than gas heating for most inhabited places. Heat pump can be beyond 100% efficient because it's not converting electricity into heat by resistive heating, it pumps thermal energy from the outside of your house to the inside abusing the properties of some specifically designed liquids by controlling the boiling temperature through pressure. And if you make it geothermal heat pump, the efficiency increases much more both for heating in winter and for cooling in summer. \n\nSo please, refrain from making claims about efficiency without knowing what you're talking about.", "Geothermal heat pump ftw!", "The gas range is bad for you and the environment.", "Electric heating is much more efficient. Like orders of magnitude more efficient.\n\nNot resistive heating, mind you, but electric heating. What do I mean? Heat pumps. https://youtu.be/7J52mDjZzto\n\nAnd if you build in geothermal as you're building your home? It's great in basically everywhere people live.", "Yes, if the power station is burning something greener than natural gas.\n\nNot if they're burning gas or coal however, due to losses in the system.", ">. If we were in a future where everyone had enough power\n\nIt's not about \"future\". I've lived in 2 European countries that have recently gone through some of the coolest periods in their recent history, and there's been no trouble with the electric grid whatsoever.", "Agreed! Love his style.", "As an aerospace engineer, you're just wrong. Like laughably wrong. At the plant, they can burn the fuel in watts that create a more complete burn that would, you know, burn your house down. \n\nThey can do it in a place where they can afford to clean the emissions, rather than dumping them to atmosphere, like you do at home.\n\nAND you can get SIGNIFICANTLY higher than e=1 for heating. You can't get more WORK than 100% efficiency, but you can pump heat hilariously more efficiently than you can get from e=1.\n\nHere's a simpler video on it: https://youtu.be/7J52mDjZzto", "> Yeah, like what are you supposed to do when you're renting?\n\nNothing.\n\nObviously.\n\nThat shouldn't need explaining.", "This is great advice if you don't love to cook.", "The fan for your gas range likely uses about 1 cent per hour, assuming you have the average 10.5c/kWh power costs. The fan for heaters use about a tenth of that. A typical cost per therm is about 30 cents.\n\nThe average therms used in the US is about 2 per day.\n\nI seriously doubt the fan is more expensive than the gas you're using.", "I do have gas heating but that didn't help me since we didn't have electricity to push the heat through the house.", "Cooktop is a word. It's been in use for over 400 years.", "Not directly, we had to boil water and the steam heated the upstairs just enough. I've done it before growing up when we had an ice storm and didn't have power for a week. It's literally a matter of survival so you roll the dice and manually light the stovetop and just check on it every now and then. Some people did come up short on the roll though and died of CO poisoning. That or freezing to death is a tough call.", "Your post made me kind of sad because it made it hit home how little people are willing to inconvenience themselves for the sake of the environment.", "Bit of an edge case given how little heat energy gets into the pan from a gas stove - a modern natural gas plant is unlikely to have worse air pollution effects than directly combusting natural gas in your kitchen, and coal plants are now hopelessly uneconomic so are likely to be replaced by renewables.", "So some pollution in your home is ok to breath in?", "Yeah, the kind that switch on/off really suck for candy making.", "magic", "My bill is broken down into gas and electricity. In the rare times we use the heat we can clearly see the added costs in both gas and electricity. The vast majority of the extra cost from heat is in the electrical portion.. At least our pricing in California electric heating would be impossible. If we were forced off gas or if gas was taxed to be more expensive than the current electrical rates we would be forced into burning wood for heat.", "Yeah induction doesn't have a good way to transfer the heat to a good round bottom wok that's been designed for use with a gas stove", "Yeah my gas bill through the winter is $40-$50 a month. Electric in the summer is like $150 to run the AC", "I should have said New England, not the Northeast since I haven't spent time in all of the Northeast. And while I was exaggerating a bit, where I live and many of the nearby towns, (literally every single town and city if you don't live close enough to something important) you can and should expect to lose power every winter. It might only be a day or so now and then, or it could be going on a week plus but you should definitely plan for it. Some people still have a woodstove, some people use a camp stove or a grill to cook, but I have absolutely had more people than I can count say how happy they are that they have a gas stove or happy they switched to have one, or have said they wished they could get one, for the sole purpose of being able to cook and heat when the power goes out. This is very common conversation/small talk fodder up here.", "What we need is more gas #cookingwithgas", "“Unconventionally unattractive” is funny.", "I have a flat bottom as well as a round bottom. The issue really isn't the shape with the induction, its the fact that the heat doesnt naturally wrap up the sides.\n\nThat is something that makes gas way less efficient, but way better for a wok.", "Gas stoves are better though, I miss mine. :/", "It’s like $42 after they’re done adding fees and crap. Don’t use it? Still paying for it. I use like 25% of it from late spring to early fall. Winter time it can hit $70 for a couple months.", "Eh, I spend about 15 hours/week engaged in unpaid political activism for the environment. I just want an easy time cooking when I get home from there.\n\nBesides, my city is on a central heating grid so my only gas consumption is for cooking anyway.\n\nBesides besides, I don't think individual action is the way forward, I think we need political action to change outcomes in any significant way.", "This is probably regional. In my area electricity is fabulously expensive and natural gas is much cheaper.", "I picked up a portable propane bbq for $25. I still use it. That's triple the cost.", "literally nothing about that says that it was 100% a natural disaster. do try to read.", "In California you're ALREADY being forced off of gas. Those laws are already passed.\n\nElectric heating is cheaper. \n\nYou're claiming you have a gas heater and that the electric is going up more than the gas for using it? Because they're literally capped on the amount of power they're allowed to use and you'd have to violate that rating to get that to be true.\n\nI'm outside Atlanta. It routinely gets to the teens in winter. And the amount of power used by our heat pump is negligible to keep the house in the high 60s, which is our preference. \n\nLA's running 24c per kWh. Meaning an hour of running your fan should be about 2.4c. If the duty cycle was 100%, which it isn't, it would raise your electric costs $17 per month.\n\nFor the actual heating, I'll use my current system, which kicks over to gas at 40F and uses electric above that. We used 0.75Thm and 4kWh of electricity to go from the high 30s to 67.\n\nSo the heat pump raises the temperature 27F for 4kWh. The gas used 21kWh for the 5-10 degrees where our surface-sourced heat pump is being used.\n\nSo if that was electric heating ONLY, and we were paying LA prices for electricity, that would be $5. Except heat pumps are more than 3x as efficient as gas. \n\nSo comparing the gas vs electric portion more directly, with the efficiency factored in:\n\n\n7kWh at 14c per kWh for electric: $0.91\n.75Thm at $1.796 per Thm for gas: $1.35\n\nThat's at LA prices for each. \n\nAND I'll bet you're paying a fee for gas connection. Ours is $35, and I'm betting California's is higher. Meaning just shutting gas off gets you 140kWh of electricity at LA prices. Which covers 20 days of heating in emergency levels.\n\nAre you sure you don't have resistive or hybrid heating?", "Not everywhere. At least, not at the scale that turning on the stove was impossible in my neighborhood.", "If you have no gas appliances, you can shut it off. And that $42 then gets used for power, making it net cheaper", "I e got some beef with this video. Not you Reddit friend, the video dude. Gotta get this out there. :)\n\nIt’s over twenty minutes long. And the dude immediately starts by basically calling people who do cook with gas stupid and climate deniers. In not watching this whole thing. \n\nGas stoves work great. Love mine. Not because of some gas lobby but because I’ve used electric and they suck. Gas stoves work super well. I don’t want to buy a whole new stove and install it. And the amount of fossil fuels burnt on a stove is so small compared to all the other places we used fossil fuels (cars, power plants, etc). I feel like this is time not well spent. My power comes from 100% renewables and I drive an electric car. \n\nI’ll stick with my gas stove. And I say that as a super liberal type climate change believer who goes out of his way to recycle and do most other things I’m supposed to for the planet. Hell I even committed my career to it! But I don’t think I need to get an induction cook top. Next time don’t attack the people you’re trying to convince and make it sound like you’re trying to make a difference. He’s not trying to change anyone’s mind he’s just adding fuel to the fuel of the argument.", "That would help with the juices but wouldn't really change anything for the other issues.", "I'm a huge believer in green energy and developing green technology, you know absolutely nothing about me.", "Well I use the lodge carbon steel pans cause it's what I can afford, and buying an extra burner or propane torch would probably work perfectly fine though. If I was going to buy an extra burner though I think if rather buy a separate induction burner and keep the stove gas.", "They’re more efficient, but in many cities gas is waaay cheaper than electric. So even though my old furnace is inefficient is costs less to run than a heat pump would.", "It’s more efficient, but gas is a lot cheaper than a comparable amount of electricity. So gas heating is both less efficient and less expensive.\n\nAt least that’s the case where I am. I considered going to an electric water heater, but a gas one is cheaper to buy and run right now. Eventually that may change if gas prices go up and electric comes down, but until then it didn’t make sense.", "The laws passed in California cities are to restrict gas in new homes. There is your problem. California is already 49th in new home starts only ahead of Utah. Basically no one is making new homes in any of those cities already. To \"fix\" this recently California at the state level is forcing all cities to rezone forcing cities to allow Auxiliary Dwelling Units aka granny flats. As gas is already run to those properties gas will be available for the ADU. So even in those cities gas isn't going away.\n\nWe have a gas furnaces. I own the home. The extra expense is always greatest in electricity. Get that lower than gas and we can talk. Hell give me a decent rate of return on solar and I might make the change. But as it stands the cost is unacceptable.", "Yes, the vid also shows that but if you've ever used a wok, you'll know right away that shit ain't gonna fly.", "It's not really about the shape", "Here ya go:\nhttps://www.smeguk.com/products/SI964NM", "How does coal power factor in to your list?", "ok, are you gonna buy me a new stove then?", "Damn thanks man, that's super cool. Now I just gotta scrape together 3,5k haha but good to see it's out there", "The problem with switching from gas to electric is you will have to run new wire for the stove. Since the electric stoves are 230v vs gas which is 115 which only runs the clock and electronic. Which Is pretty expensive if you live a few floors up. So if they want us to switch over they should offer to pay for it. The other problem is electricity cost more then natural gas. So electricity would need to cost less then gas for it to entice to people.", "He literally does the opposite of that.", "Cries in ERCOT\n\nAbbott used some our energy money ($4M) on an election recount, fuckin’ douchebag!", "Again, e>1 violates the laws of thermodynamics. \nI agree that heat pumps typically have a CoP>1, but the OP is about cooktops. \nYour electric cooktop does not use a heat pump. \n\nAlso, it’s possible to have a discussion on Reddit without being rude. Saying somebody is “laughably wrong” is not productive. Especially since nothing I said is actually wrong in the context of the original post.", "Kinda do hate my electric stove though, tbh.", "Well yeah this happens constantly", "Except for the part where that plant will be running for 50+ years where all of these otje investments will need sizable reinvestments every 5-10 years. So you end up spending triple the amount for less net gain.", "You seem to have misunderstood my post.\nThe 240V 30A is specifically a minimum for the dryer itself. The house will be higher, but I don't have a number for what 80% of households have in terms of total service.\n\nIf you read the link it explains how the BTU number was determined.", "We cook in our home every day multiple times. We have a 6 burner stove with a plancha. Absolutely love it. Electric ranges can get the job done but one of the downsides is the fragile tops. This thing is a workhorse. Also seeing the flame is nicer than looking at a number on a dial and wondering what that translates to. That said, we do have an electric oven because that, it turns out, is better than gas.", "I watched half of it. Couldn’t watch the whole thing because he kept inferring I’m an idiot for having a gas stove that works super well and isn’t anywhere near as bad for the environment as he’s claiming. \n\nIronic how you judge me for jumping to conclusions while at the exact same time jumping to conclusions.", "How can you tell what kind of temperature control an induction stove has? I've been looking for a \"non-interval\" one, but I don't even know how to Google for that.", "Yeah pretty much this. I've been cooking my whole life and I don't need instagram to tell me electric ranges are garbage.\n\nAlso, not a climate change denier, but I still have a hard time understanding why burning natural gas for cooking at home is worse than burning, probably natural gas, at a power plant to put electricity in the grid and then using the electricity to cook at home.\n\nMuch like with electric cars, where your burning, probably hydrocarbon based fuel, to put power into the electrical grid so you can charge your fancy tesla instead of filling it with hydrocarbon based fuels for power. \n\nNot a physicist or an engineer but it seems like the whole grid and battery charging part makes the whole thing less efficient and thus worse for the climate.\n\nKind of like hybrid vehicles, which seem like the worst of all, which use the gas you actually put into your car to charge a battery which your car now has to haul around. Its complete nonsense and actually burns more fuel than just driving a normal car with one powertrain.\n\nId love to see some actual changes in technology that reduce the use of fossil fuels that don't also require you to believe naming a thing hybrid, or green or tesla, causes it to conjure magic energy from nowhere and run off of that. Like idk, if they were to start building nuclear power plants that might be a good start...", "Or don’t have bbq’s or outdoor stoves (e.g. camping stoves) in case of emergency?", "lol \n\nand if you look at this comment folks, you can see cognitive dissonance happening in real time.", "In Minnesota we have lots of wind power. Trying to support that by how I spend my electricity money! Most power companies take suggestions on how they split their energy generation, including paying more to invest in renewables. Won’t solve the problem over night, but slooooowly turning the ship. :)", "Yeah sure thing pal", "Because I’m not gonna go buy a new stove for a few grand? Way to not contribute to the conversation and only criticize people that are.", "🤢🤮", "I'm sorry that your etymological knowledge is lacking?", "Hey, engineer here. If you’re interested in learning about how a hybrid vehicle works and lowers emissions, let me know. Because what you’ve described is not accurate.", "Same", "wind is great but its a drop in the ocean sized bucket when you look at places like Chicago and New York.", "Electric stoves blow", "Am an engineer. \n\nHybrid and electric cars are far more efficient than a standard IC engine. The efficiency from generation of electricity in a large scale industrial plant, or even better through renewable sources highly outpaces the inefficiencies of the electrical grid when compared against small scale generation of power from an IC engine. \n\nIf you'd like me to elaborate more I can.", "Portable stove is my current solution as well. Downside is that it's pretty damn light and I always feel like I'll accidently knock it off the table or push it into something while doing any stir-frying on it. Not to mention that the heat output is somewhat limited...", "Agree! But I don’t live there I live in Minnesota!", "I would like to know Mr. Engineer. How does burning gas to charge a battery create magic energy from nowhere? Also if it has an auxiliary braking system or whatever they are called, your going to convince me that offsets the amount of energy consumed by hauling around the extra powertrain? Doesn't really make any sense whatsoever.", "Electric vehicles I can almost believe, I want to believe... Hybrids not so much. Unless the hybrids at the very least get plugged in and charged at some point and even then, two powertrains, one of which is heavy as hell. There are laws of physics! Some of which I partially pretend to understand :/", "What the fuck are you talking about? The video never suggests you should do that. In fact, it literally states the opposite.", "Now that I know your background as a slack-jaw, I'll attempt to use smaller words and explain to you with wrote memorization, rather than actual science, why you're laughably wrong. \n\n\nYou make the claim that gas has a smaller carbon footprint, which is laughably wrong. Why? Because gas usage for something like a cooktop is hilariously inefficient: [https://www.leafscore.com/eco-friendly-kitchen-products/which-is-more-energy-efficient-gas-electric-or-induction](https://www.leafscore.com/eco-friendly-kitchen-products/which-is-more-energy-efficient-gas-electric-or-induction) \n\n\nHow inefficient? You're looking at 40% compared to 84% for induction. That wasted heat goes into your home, which means you now have to cool 60% of what you're cooking with an AC somewhere. \n\n\nBeyond that, the gas will literally kill you over time if not properly ventilated. Which means you're ALSO going to be running a range hood, unless you're looking for cancer and death. \n\n\nWhich is an additional 65-300W wasted. \n\n\nSO, what's the efficiency of gas delivery? 92%. \nWhat's the energy of electricity delivery? 92-93%. \n\n\nNatural gas-fired power plants get about 42% efficiency. \n\n\nSo we have .42\\.92\\.84 for 32.5% efficiency for electricity. \nVersus .40\\.92 for 36.8% efficiency for gas. \n\n\nWhich is where you're getting your \"Gas is more efficient\" tripe. You use 1.3Thm per day for a typical range. That's 2 hours and 38kWh. \n\n\nAnd you're adding another 0.3kWh for fans. And you're having to COOL 22.8kWh of energy back out of your house, on average. \n\n\nMeaning your total power usage comes in at 61kWh for 15.2kWh of cooking, which comes in at under 25% total efficiency. \n\n\nWhich means that gas is about 3/4 as efficient as using electricity. \n\n\nYou're just wrong. You're laughably wrong. \n\n\nAnd it's cheaper because of governments around the world giving INCREDIBLE oil subsidies which bring the prices of gasoline and natural gas down. How much subsidization? [https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2019/05/02/Global-Fossil-Fuel-Subsidies-Remain-Large-An-Update-Based-on-Country-Level-Estimates-46509](https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2019/05/02/Global-Fossil-Fuel-Subsidies-Remain-Large-An-Update-Based-on-Country-Level-Estimates-46509) \n\n\n$5.2T. $743 per person per year. \n\n\nSo if you go ahead and crank your gas prices up an additional $62 per person in your household, is it STILL cheaper? It certainly isn't for me and mine. For your typical home, that's $248 per month. \n\n\nAnd we're doing it for something that's killing us, killing our planet, severely harming our economy, and is less efficient. \n\n\nSo yes, the TL;DR is that you are laughably incorrect and coming in with faux-expertise is absolute bollocks, you absolute walnut.", "Just pointing out that gas isn't reliable either. If more people in Texas has gas than you probably wouldn't have access to gas either.", "> But for the environmental aspect I think it only works if your energy is clean. Like if you use electricity generated with a dirty coal energy plant it's probably worse.\n\nThe video also covers this point, and suggests that it is not really the case from a greenhouse gas point of view.", "I suggest actually watching the video that your commenting on. He covers old electric ranges vs new induction and why we should be concerned with burning gas at home for cooking. \n\nElectric cars aren’t relevant to the video, and I see you have plenty of replies offering to explain those.", "Can’t light a blunt with induction, but maybe it’s time to change anyway.", "And also a lot of people are absurdly proud of shitty things. Like people who were proud* to be smoking despite knowing it's killing them, proud to be eating meat because it pissed off vegans, etc. Assholes rolling coal because... ??\n\nThe problem isn't people trying to be green or good, it's assholes.", "> He covers old electric ranges vs new induction\n\nI saw that part, with the fancy magnets. I live in apartments like the man who made the video, the kinds of apartments that don't have fancy magnet induction ranges.", "You didn't watch the video so I'm not reading your shit", "You're the 14th parent comment and I have yet to see anything negative, just opinions that there's more to induction than just simply buying an induction stove.", "Eh, browsing the comments it's definitely got a more raging \"I like cooking with gas and I've got a shitty excuse for it\"\n\nLike god forbid you recognize it's less than ideal to be using gas (for all the reasons stated in the vid) if it means confessing weakness. I ain't asking you to replace your gas stove or anything, just be aware that there are better options.", "So here's my calculation, perhaps it's regional so your results may vary, my furnace is about 98% thermally efficient. The heat pump in my previous home was about 135-150% thermal efficiency in winter when I need it. It seems to have three modes, defrost (100% efficiency electric heating), hybrid(150% runs both electric heating and pumping), and 200%(pumping only rare in winter) these numbers would be a winner except power generation in my area is 80% gas (again in the winter, less solar, and less hydro) and approx 50% efficient (Carnot is the meanest MF on the grid). So heat pump is an efficiency loser for the period of the year it competes with the furnace. I'm not really convinced by the leaky pipes thing either. The grid itself looses approximately 30% of its generation to load balancing and transmission among other factors so again even doubling the 9% leak it's doing better than the grid for environmental damage.", "Have yet to find an electric range that didn’t suck in comparison to a decent gas range. Gas works better for this application and consumption is minimal.", "Plus it's safer. Don't have to worry about a gas leak.", "There really needs to be legal standing for citizens, organizations, & attorney generals to sue corporations for damage to the environment.", "Coal is much dirtier than natural gas in terms of local toxicity. If you're using electric but in the end burning coal, that's worse than using natural gas. Natural gas still has a huge impact on climate, but is less likely to cause cancer directly.\n\nOf course, less emissions period is better. So electric fed from renewable is optimal.", "Cheap ones are so bad. We have one where we are renting. I hate it. I have started just using the toaster oven.", "If the only thing you're considering is purchase cost, I'd bet your habits aren't very frugal. In any case, that kind of comment is shilly.", "Will watch it in a moment, extra curious now as I know that Germany is ditching coal for gas https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-21/phasing-out-coal-will-require-germany-to-build-new-gas-plants\n\nEdit watched it, yeah I didn't consider gas loss as a thing. One thing that should be noted is this\n\n\"Methane has a large effect but for a relatively brief period, having an estimated mean half-life of 9.1 years in the atmosphere,[21][page needed] whereas carbon dioxide is currently given an estimated mean lifetime of over 100 years.\" from Wikipedia.", "Well, per kWh it's more expensive, but if you spend 1/3rd the electricity and the cost is 3 times as much, it balances out. And those numbers are representative at least for a few countries in the EU that I've lived in.", "Hi I am another engineer, in particular studying turbomachinery (like the gas or steam turbines that often produce electric power) and with aerospace engineering background (so I know some stuff about piston engines as well).\n\nPower plants using gas turbines in combined cycles can get to a fuel-to-grid efficiency of around 60% or more. If we also introduce the efficiency of grid to wheel power of an electric car (which I have not studied but people who do say it's around 80%) then we get a total efficiency of around 50%.\n\nFor a petrol piston engine the peak efficiency doesn't go above 25-30%. Emphasis on \"peak\".\n\nSo that is how: if you want to produce the same amount of energy, piston engine needs more of it than an EV, producing more emissions.\n\nEdit: and other factors play a role. For example in a lot of places at the moment gas turbines operate with a blend of hydrogen, reducing emissions even more. Moreover most places have at least part of their power production coming from renewables, lowering emissions even more compared to piston engines.", "Power outages over the last few years where I live have only been a few hours a year. Camping gear for the apocalypse scenarios covers any extra risk while allowing to leverage that 99.999% uptime of electricity.", "If you put a lid on, sometimes it'll vibrate. Easily solvable by putting a spoon to keep it half opened.", "US gas is a lot cheaper than EU I think. And while gas is less efficient it’s not THAT inefficient.", "Even if the fuel contains the same amount of energy regardless how it’s burned there’s a huge difference in the overall efficiency. \n\nThe power plant can conert up to 60% of the energy that’s contained in the fuel to electricity. If the rest of the heat can be used to heat up buildings the overall effeciency is up to 90%. So at most 40% of energy is lost and at best just 10%.\n\nThe car on the other hand can convert around 25% of the fuels energy to motion - 75% is wasted as heat. \n\nThe difference is so huge that no magic is needed - even if there’s losses in grid and charging it’s still better to use the fuel in power plants compared to cars’ engines.\n\nAnd for the hybrids: when you slow down just gas cars turn motion to heat on brakes. In hybrids this energy can be partially saved and reused, therefore those are way more efficient in city driving compared to regular gas cars. Also the electric motor can take some of the load off from the engine so it can be smaller, more energy efficient and run on a more optimal load. All these points have an effect on how much more energy efficient hybrids are compared to traditional gas cars.", "Did you read my first comment? Gas is very efficient (close to 100%) but electricity with heat pump is literally 300% efficiency or something in the lines of this.", "Greener energies are a fallacy, no one needs idiotic influencers to tell us that, just look at what happened to you guys in Texas, your stupid greener energies failed tremendously", "I lived in Santa Barbara, CA for 7 years and there were at least 3-5 power outages a year. They didn’t last long and never more than 12 hours but definitely annoying. Wind and fires caused most of them. I was the only one with a gas stove so all of my friends came over to my house when the power went out since at least we could have some warm drinks", "I watched the video and he doesn’t really cover how induction can replace gas if you are really into cooking. Cooking is one of my biggest hobbies. Between us, my wife and I cook a nice meal 5-6 nights a week. We have a big gas range now, and my mother has a fancy induction cooktop, which I’ve used. I hate cooking on the induction top.\n\nThe way I cook, I’m constantly adjusting heat, lifting and tilting the pan to stir or move stuff. I sear, I simmer, I make french omelettes. I make a lot of dishes in a wok.\n\nFirst, some of my problem with induction is just design bullshit, not inherent to the technology. But Induction cookers seem to all do this:\nI lift the pan for a second to reduce the heat, or tilt the pan to scoot an omelette or butter to spoon over a steak. The cooktop starts beeping because the pan isn’t centered. Sometimes it turns off the eye if the pan is up too long.\n\nI need to reduce the heat, and instead of turning a knob for my burner, I have to tap a capacitive button spot to select the burner, then slide my finger along a capacitive slider to adjust the power. I’ve got multiple dishes going I don’t have time to fight that bullshit interface.\n\nOf course it’s completely unworkable for wok cooking. No hot gasses flowing up around the wok to heat the sides. The bottom gets rocket hot, but that’s not what I need for a wok. And of course with stir frying you are moving the wok around a lot, which makes the induction top beep and freak out and turn off.\n\nOf course it’s all totally true that gas cooking is terrible for indoor air quality. You need a very good vent hood, which most people don’t have. And even then, induction is easier to clean, and much better for the air in your house. No argument. But I don’t see how I could be happy with using one for the way I cook. Maybe if somebody would make one that didn’t beep/turn off the second I lift/tilt a pan, and had dedicated knobs for each burner, then I could just live without wok cooking. \n\nIf somebody can recommend a 48” induction range that does what I need, I’d be totally into that. I have a very old range now that will cost a fortune to replace. But since it’s just dumb gas valve and no computers and shit I’ve been able to repair it multiple times myself.", "Why would you measure the effectiveness of a wok cooker by boiling water. Woks are built to move and flip food rapidly with temperature gradients on the slope of the pan, not sit in one spot.", "Well let’s try to make sense of it! I assure you there is no magic energy. \n\nLet’s discuss conventional hybrids because that seems to be what you’re trying to describe, and is more common. A hybrid doesn’t consume gas to charge a battery which then powers an electric motor; that’s \n a misconception and of course that wouldn’t be efficient. A hybrid still consumes gas as the primary fuel for the vehicle. One (or more) electric motor/generator units (a generator and motor are the same device) is added to supplement the internal combustion engine. This improves efficiency for several reasons. ICEs are most efficient at a given combination of torque/speed. We use transmissions and gearing to help expand that range to operate at more torque/speed scenarios, but most ICEs are optimized for high speed/low torque (highway cruising) and are worst at low speed/high torque (starting from a standstill). Electric motors do great with low speed/high torque. So the addition of an EMG allows the ICE to operate at peak efficiency more often by providing additional power when needed or provide all power when starting from a stop where the ICE is particularly inefficient. This allows the use of a smaller, less consumptive, lighter ICE in the vehicle. Also, the EMG can store excess power generated by the ICE in the batteries, this is energy that would otherwise be wasted. Additionally, regenerative braking uses the same EMG to convert the speed of the vehicle into power which is stored in the battery for later use. Again, this is energy that would otherwise be wasted. \n\nI upgraded from an ICE only compact sedan to a hybrid mid size sedan and my newer car has more ‘get up and go’ power than my compact while averaging ~25% better gas mileage.", "Probably we are talking two different things. Electric could warp them…induction shouldn’t unless you really crank up the heat.", "Hi friends! My boss told me to spread the word. Gas is great, I'm cooking with gas! I'm afraid I'll lose my job if you don't buy gas.\n\n-me: hey boss, I've evoked emotion in my story telling.", "If you like to stir fry a lot, look into Iwatani. They make quality Japanese butane portable stoves for wok cooking. You can get them in the 15,000 to 18,000 btu range for around $100 or less. Mine is 12,000 btu and was around $50. Will last you a lifetime.\n\nI took a Japanese cooking class and the instructor swore by them, so I bought one the next day. Also great for cooking blackened fish as I can do it on the deck and avoid stinking up the house. Wu better than the cheap Coleman camp stove I used previous.", "one man running natural gas isn't world ending and even if his whole community changed the impact would be negligible. The video even states that natural gas for cooking is like 3% of total emissions. If he's out of touch despite evidence telling his he's wrong, eventually he might learn but let's not waste our time trying to change preconceived notions.\n\nThat being said, where I live it's 4 times more costly to use electricity. Using the energy conversion where 1 m3 of natural gas has 10.395 kWh of energy, the effective marginal rate of natural gas is 2.5¢/ekWh (the 'e' denotes equivalent). That means that for a homeowner, buying one unit of energy in the form of electricity is just over four times the cost of buying one unit of energy in the form of methane.\n\nThere's more work involved with setting up a heat pump, choosing the right size of heat pump depends on the heat loss of your home and the performance of the unit with the local climate conditions for the coldest hours of the year.\n\nFor every Kwh unit of electrical energy consumed a standard heat pump is able to provide 2.7 units of heat energy to your home. If you need 100 kWh of heat energy, we only need to buy 37 kWh of electricity to provide it with a heat pump. This brings our effective heating cost from 10.3¢/kWh to 3.8¢/kWh.\n\nMany people are still using mid-efficiency furnaces with about 80% AFUE(Annual Fuel Utilization Efficiency), so they are paying the equivalent of 3.1¢/ekWh for heat with natural gas.\n\n\nTl;dr: Adjusted for equivalencies, heat pumps will become cheaper, especially as carbon pricing is introduced to artificially increase the cost of carbon fuel emissions. \n\nhttps://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whats-operating-cost-difference-between-heat-pump-gas-david-elfstrom", "I’m definitely looking into getting a heat pump once my current ac unit craps out. It’s been going 13 years and still strong and quite efficient for its age (13 seer rating and I clean the evaporator coils annually). But an electric heat pump is still more expensive to run compared to natural gas prices in Texas. I also keep the home pretty cold in the winter (60 during the day and 66F at night upstairs in the bedrooms only). The one thing I have going for me is a damper system to direct heat/ac to where it’s needed only.", "I never watch the video, straight to comments and give my opinion.", "> maybe you should look into geo thermal heat pumps\n\nWhy not air? Geothermal is far more costly.", "TIL that ice storms are man made.", "As I responded to another poster, that’s the plan once my current ac unit craps out. My ac unit has been going strong in Texas heat for 13 years and is still quite efficient at cooling (13 seer rating and I clean the evaporator coils annually every spring).", "You could just watch the video and realize you're writing fiction, dude.", "Radiant Electric sucks but induction is the best", "What does this video have to do with astroturfing making the internet worse? \n\nEdit: today I learned astroturfing isn't just about fake grass", "strawman. i never said icestorms where man made, i said the consequences can be negated with proper upkeep. stop arguing in bad faith.\n\nhere in the netherlands for example our waterinfrastructure is designed so that it can withstand once in 2.000 year events for the buffer zones, inland once in 4000 and metropolian once in 10.000 years. if your outages happen more often due to 'natural disasters' then 'natural disasters' start being normal fucking weather that people let escalate into disaster. you should anticipate for weather events, especially since they will become way more extreme with climate change. but that cuts into company profits.", "You show your crazy in two sentences. That's impressive.", "> I watched half of it.\n\nI honestly don't believe you have.", "Our gas stove was relatively new when we bought our house but there was no venting at all. We remodeled the kitchen because it needed it and installed 400CFM unit and I clean it once every month or so and we've never had a problem. On it's lowest setting it's quiet and moves more than enough air to suck out anything the stove is kicking off, you can boil water on a front burner (farthest away from the hoods suction) and watch the water vapor get pulled up through the vent. Anyhow, point of all of this is just to agree with you and more so to state that gas is totally fine if you have proper ventilation.", ">Plenty of renters don't even have a choice in what vent hood they have. And because internal recirculating hoods are much cheaper and easier to install, that's what landlords put in. Again, it's not as simple as \"Just get a good vent hood\".\n\nIf you actually cared about the health or those renters, instead of just using them in your crusade, you'd be pushing for exhausting vent hoods, but the thought doesn't even occur to you.", "I wrote a lot, no one will probably ready this, the TL;DR is that heat pumps are energy efficient, but the upfront cost is too much for the savings they provide.\n\n\n>Second, you probably are calculating based on current electricity prices, but those are going to change with the shift to renewable sources\n\nIt's can to price in an unknown future value. When? The current cost is the best metric, it's like saying \"well your medication is expensive now, but think of all you money you'll save when it becomes available as a generic!\"\n\n>wind and solar in particular that they are somewhat unreliable\n\nThe reliability of renewables isn't going to dictate when someone is feeling cold.\n\n>so your heater can just avoid demand peaks or supply shortages where electricity is expensive and instead mostly use electricity when it is available for (relatively) cheap\n\nWhat? Heat pump is still electric, but it's less electric usage to achieve the same results as baseboard heating. Natural gas is still cheaper, it's four times more expensive to use electric where I live compared to natural gas. \n\nGoing from baseboard/resistive to a heat pump brings the effective heating cost of where I live as an example from 10.3¢/kWh to 3.8¢/kWh. With a mid-efficiency gas furnace in comparison of about 80% AFUE (Annual Fuel Utilization Efficiency), you'd pay the equivalent of 3.1¢/ekWh (e is for equivalent) for heat. With a 95% efficiency furnace it's 2.6¢/ekWh. \n\nTl;dr: -> \n\n Heat pump at 2.7 coefficient of performance - 3.8¢/kWh\n \n 95% efficient gas furnace - 2.6¢/ekWh\n \n 80% efficient gas furance - 3.1¢/ekWh\nNumbers are from here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whats-operating-cost-difference-between-heat-pump-gas-david-elfstrom\n\nNow yes, as I'm only using numbers from where I live, a carbon tax is gradually being introduced which will change these and make a 2.7 CoP comparitively cheaper, but it's still increasing the cost of heating. It's just now a heat pump is the lesser of two financial evils. But another thing to consider is how much you'd save now and if the current savings would offset the increase cost later down the road.\n\nNot everyone has the ability to afford heat pumps and the work required to get the right one. [It comes back to the boots and theory of economic inequality](https://wiki.lspace.org/Sam_Vimes_Theory_of_Economic_Injustice).\n\n\nHere's another example\n\n[\"Is a heat pump the best option? Maybe not, says engineer\"](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/is-a-heat-pump-the-best-option-maybe-not-says-engineer-1.4024786)\n\n\"At 11 cents a kilowatt hour your payback calculations aren't very favourable to buying these heat pumps,\" said Alarie.\n\n\"Are you better off just turning up your thermostat and using an extra 50 bucks worth of electricity every month through the heating months?\"\n\nAlarie said his current annual heating cost from electricity is $630. \n\nHe estimated the heat pumps would reduce his bill by a little over one-third that amount if he didn't factor in the cost to pay for the units and their installation.\n\n\"Twenty bucks a month, $240 a year, unit's going to cost over $3,000 for one unit. I can't justify the payback. It's getting into 10 years for one, 20 years if I get two, if they don't break down.\"", "That's... not how it works at ALL.", "Hey Neighbour! I’m in NZ, and there are some forms of protection, like our Consumers Guarantee Act, in all honesty, I don’t think Mum and Dad tried to fight for anything, although, I know that the third unit was free, but still took several weeks to replace. So an inconvenience more than a cost.", "How dare people lose power during hurricanes and floods", "Just another brainless Texas bad comment", "About 20 minutes outside of Silicon Valley - we had about one day of power outage per week for about 2 months during fire season this year.\n\nI’m looking to get a home battery system or a generator (before they are banned) - but it’s a whole different ball game backing up a fridge, led lights and some fans - vs heating the whole house, hot water and cooking.", "Spoken like someone who has never lived in Texas. Hurricanes AND Tornados, not to mention severe thunderstorms are a normal occurrence in Texas. Shoot, I live in GA and we have trees falling on power lines from storms at least once a year.", "But at least in the US is still doesn’t make economic sense unless you don’t have a gas hookup. Gas is too cheap compared to electric.", "My comment was about the speed. I thought it was a good demo of induction. The video should have skipped ahead of all the wok stuff to just show the timed demo.", ">literally nothing about that says that it was 100% a natural disaster. do try to read.\n\nI wouldn't have dismissed you with such obvious sarcasm if I knew you were actually serious about this take. I don't need to read an article about a specific winter storm that I lived through to understand that freezing precipitation from the sky is 100% a natural phenomenon. I would hope that someone advocating a position detrimental to people surviving said natural phenomena would understand basic metrology and would be able to accept new information when it is presented to them.\n\nThe fact is that the devastation caused by the natural disaster was so great that it took years for the trees to recover and weeks for power to get restored. The [ice accumulation was so great](https://www.weather.gov/images/lmk/past_events/jan_2009_ice_and_snow/ice_accum_jan_09.PNG) it even took down some transmission lines. The option to bury residential electrical lines much less transmission lines isn't always an option especially in seismic event prone areas. I suggest [educating yourself about the subject](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=2009+ice+storm) before we go any further.", "> the pan is heating the burner\n\nLol wtf? No it’s not.\n\nInduction cooking works by heating the pan directly rather than heating the hob. \n\nThe hob doesn’t get hot. And even if it did, how on Earth could the pan be supplying the energy to do that?!", "The house I grew up in, the kitchen always smelled like natural gas (specifically the stinky stuff they add to it) because of the gas oven and stovetop, as well as not having a vent hood. But we had gas jets for space heaters, plus the built-in bathroom heater with the radiating clay bricks.", "Looks like a lot of infrastructure and switching costs to me, plus you can also use a flame very dynamically to get different effects. It is a very cool technology, but with my very limited knowledge, I cannot say it is better or worse; just neat. Good luck with your business!", "You'd need a specialist device to use a proper round base wok in a fire based kitchen as well so I'm not sure what your point is in saying you can't use one on induction. Standard kitchens are not designed for proper round base woks.", "either way its not because environmentalists are hurting peoples feelings", "That's what the video points out though? Pushing for gas cooking, even though it's a small proportion of the gas they sell, is how the gas industry gets gas into homes for water and space heating, their real money-makers.", "HAHAHA. Gas stoves creating climate change? You have fully stepped off the ledge.", "I've heard of a hard boiled egg but boiling an egg without water just sounds hard", "Rolling coal is centered entirely on this.", "Because the burner is at a lower temperature and is not generating its own heat, and because the pan is getting hotter from the induction, technically the pan is heating the burner. Just not in the traditional, cooking sense.", "Oh, you mean, some generated heat goes back into the hob through conduction? I guess that’s true, it’s just a really bizarre way to explain induction cooking. You didn’t actually explain how it works, you just mentioned a small side effect.\n\nYour explanation would be like saying “In a microwave, the food heats the bowl, not the other way around”. Without actually mentioning how the food gets hot.\n\nAlso referring to it as a a “burner” is a very weird choice of language IMO, since nothing is burning…. That’s why I say “hob“.", "It’s almost as if people were paid to post pro-gas replies, hmmmmm", "That's not necessarily true.\n\nThe point was that GP said that they needed resistive assist much of the winter with an air heat pump--in places where that's the case (i.e., where winters are particularly long and cold), geothermal can be more economical because they can potentially work at higher CoP more of the time, depending on local circumstances, either because you can run the system in reverse during summer and use the ground for energy storage, or because the surface is close enough to magma that you can continuously extract heat from the earth, independently from the weather.\n\nWhat is more economical really depends on the location.", "That’s not really a comparable thing? Like, why not just light a fire on an old pallet and cook on that in your kitchen? That shit don’t cost a dollar, so by your standards that’s 25 times better than your propane grill", "also helps to join an energy co-op in your area. They're typically able to lock-in a lower price for members by buying a certain number of gallons ahead of time for the group. It's definitely saved us a lot of money -- and from what I understand, propane is fairly green.", "I have an induction range with literally none of these problems. I mean, maybe the scraping sounds, but I solve it with the magic of picking things up and setting them down.\n\nI also have a gas range in the main kitchen, and I hate the idea that its emissions are harmful to my kid. So I always turn the vent on, which is so loud we can't talk while someone is cooking. Really thinking about tearing it out, and I would if I didn't plan to move soon, and there are enough suckers who think gas is awesome that won't see it as a downside.", "You remember the model of your stove? When I move out of my apartment and into somewhere without gas I'd love whatever you got. \n\nYour vent is that loud? Mine is eternally on, but luckily my apartment building has centralised ventilation so all the engine-sounds are kept somewhere up under the roof.", "> It's can to price in an unknown future value. When? The current cost is the best metric,\n\nNo, it's not. Just because the future is uncertain, doesn't mean the current price is the best possible prediction for the future price. Especially when ...\n\n> Now yes, as I'm only using numbers from where I live, a carbon tax is gradually being introduced which will change these\n\n... that, for example, gives you some quite reliable predictability.\n\nYeah, it's true that noone can tell you exactly what electricity will cost in 20 years. But if you know that electricity production and distribution will change significantly over the next 20 years, it's also pretty nonsensical to just assume current prices for the future.\n\n> The reliability of renewables isn't going to dictate when someone is feeling cold.\n\nErm ... yeah, let me quote the rest of that sentence?!\n\n>> that's actually not a huge problem for heating, because heating generally isn't time-critical: Whether your heating kicks in now or in half an hour usually doesn't really matter, because your house doesn't cool down that fast\n\n> What? Heat pump is still electric, but it's less electric usage to achieve the same results as baseboard heating.\n\nBut heating still isn't particularly time-critical? You just don't need to heat during the half hour of peak demand, and you can heat \"in advance\" when electricity is extremely cheap.\n\n> but it's still increasing the cost of heating.\n\nNo, it isn't. It's increasing the price of heating. When you use fossil fuels, that has externalities, that is, costs that are borne by third parties, so it's cheap for you, but that's only because others are paying for it. And also, even that isn't necessarily true, because chances are you will ultimately also be affected by the externalities yourself.\n\nAll that is happening is that people finally actually have to pay the full cost of heating.\n\n> Not everyone has the ability to afford heat pumps and the work required to get the right one. It comes back to the boots and theory of economic inequality.\n\nWell, maybe. But especially where it's just a liquidity problem, that really should be solvable, especially at current interest rates.", "dude are you an employee of a gas company? because clearly you are really against this video despite the video doing none of the things you keep going on about. but yeah dude you're a super liberal type.", "Houston native here. Natural gas stove, dryer, and heating. \n\nIn the winter, my power bill drops from ~$280 to ~$110. My gas bill goes from ~$30 to ~$65. It just makes $ense for me to use gas. I would love to have an expensive induction stove, but a low end gas stove is \"good enough\".", "PID loops control to a setpoint using proportional, integral, or derivative gains. You need a process variable to feedback as a loop to determine how much more input to reach the setpoint using a control variable.\n\nFor stoves, you have a control variable (electrical load) but you would also need a process variable (temperature sensor) to determine how far away you are from the setpoint (temperature).\n\nI don't think any induction stoves actually have sensors to use for PID loop control, but if there is please point me to one because that'd be cool.\n\nAs for duty cycles, that's literally what the commenter already described. A 6 second on, 5 second off cycle is a cycle with a duty of 6/(5+6) * 100% = 55%. Of course, most duty cycles aren't an 11 second duration, but are usually described in Hz (cycles per second) in most applications.", "Main issue is the economics for nuclear only get worse as we add more wind/solar. Nuclear might be feasible if we stopped building wind and solar, but thats unlikely to happen.", "I rent myself, but that didn't even occur to you. Plenty of landlords are absolute scumbags and treat the tenants like crap. It is wishful thinking to believe that they will change - many break the law as-is. Bad vent hoods would just be one more thing at the bottom of the list.\n\nIt would be far easier to actually stop providing buildings with gas for cooking and transition to electric.", "that is correct, but if the burner itself turns on under 100c and off when over 100c, and throttles itself to maintain 100c on average, the water boils gently.\n\nIf I just have it turned to low medium after it starts boiling, it will keep adding energy into the water beyond that needed to maintain 100c and the rate of steam production increases to match the input energy, which results in boil over with the lid on because the rate of steam production causes the liquid to foam up. \n\n\nedit: clarity", "Np, appreciate that. Thanks for the info", "yep had lots of soup and spaghetti when our power was down. Also if it werent for my gas fireplace I'd likely have had burst pipes throughout the house. After dealing with the outages I wouldnt live anywhere in Texas without at least a gas fireplace.", ">wouldn't have dismissed you with \nsuch obvious sarcasm if I knew you were actually serious about this \ntake. I don't need to read an article about a specific winter storm \nthat I lived through to understand that freezing precipitation from the \nsky is 100% a natural phenomenon. I would hope that someone advocating a \n position detrimental to people surviving said natural phenomena would \nunderstand basic metrology and would be able to accept new information \nwhen it is presented to them.\n\nanother strawman. i never argued that the storm wasn't natural. stop arguing in bad faith. I can only conclude that you are intentionally misrepresenting my arguments, because otherwise your reading comprehension would have to be pisspoor and i don't think that is the case.\n\n&#x200B;\n>The fact is that the devastation caused by the natural disaster was so great that it took years for the trees to recover and weeks for power to get restored.\n\nnothing about that is an argument as to why this wasn't just bad planning and bad maintenance. a tree is completely different from an electrical system. and the long recoverytime just shows how strung out the maintanance crew is, they don't even have the manpower and money! poorly managed man! see, that fact supports my stance just as much\n\n>The ice accumulation was so great it even took down some transmission lines.\n\nWow, really badly maintained! see, your facts support my stance just as much as yours.\n\n>The option to bury residential electrical lines much less transmission lines isn't always an option especially in seismic event prone areas. \n\nso all your power cables are above ground because in very few places they cant be? why not, bury the cables when you can? oh i know! it costs more and eats into profits, its a cost saving measure! its also plain false, the risk is saltwater flooding eating away at the cables. but guess what, if your powerlines flood with saltwater you have a much bigger problem on your hands in residential area's. which also can be prevented with proper management and upkeep i might add ;)\n\nlike just think about this, if there is seismic activity, what do you think is going to happen to that cable? unless the ground literally shears the cable by two seismic plates its not going to do any harm and guess what? that almost never happens. here in the netherlands for example we have earthquakes up to scale 4. our underground powerlines don't have a problem with that.\n\n>I suggest educating yourself about the subject before we go any further.\n\nthats bold to claim for someone who doesn't even know why powercables aren't burried.", "It depends how green your energy grid is but that is likely going to improve as more renewables come online.\n\nIf your energy grid is Coal or Oil then the gas hob is greener as coal and oil are really dirty.\n\nIf your energy grid is Gas there won't be much in it. You are comparing a 50-60% efficient gas power plant making electricity to supply a 90%ish efficient induction hob against a 40% ish efficient gas hob.\n\nIf your energy grid is a mix and heading to renewables induction is best. Also health wise gas hobs are bad for air quality in your home.", "But the speed is a pointless measure for a wok cooker. Woks are shaped so that flames underneath the wok heat it unevenly with flames licking up the sides. How does boiling water show how an wok induction cooktop compares to gas. It's a measurement that means nothing.", "Right, and if that was the point. OP should have said that. But he didn't.\n\nOP is very clearly intelligent, so I thought I would provide additional insight and have a nice conversation with OP. Not someone who wants to put words in the mouth of the original poster. But thanks.\n\nLastly, inductive heating IS resistive heating. Please stop arguing from a point of ignorance. The resistance is just occurring in the bottom of the pan instead of a ceramic/iron resistor coil.", "That still sounds pretty bad for a first world country. I've had 1 blackout in the last 15 years which lasted 3 hours and I've never been in one that lasted days. I've lived all over including some really rural bits and some really disaster prone places, though admittedly not both at the same time.", "Well, the BTU number is still wrong no matter what way you spin it. You should just argue that more of the heat created ends up in the food/water. That would be the most accurate way to say it, rather than just lying about the BTU number to try to make a point.\n\nI think induction cooktops are the future, but they're expensive. So gas is a nice compromise until price comes down.", ">very different beasts that you can't lump together.\n\nthat's why I mentioned glass tops separately and said they have their own set of problems.\n\nBoth electric coil and glass tops are induction, btw... Glass tops just introduce even more problems under the promise of being easier to clean.", "You might want to watch the video before you post here attacking it champ.", "I totally agree, induction is way more efficient at putting heat directly into what you are trying to heat up. I think PWM modulated induction cooktops are the future! They're great. Just super expensive.\n\nSomething else to consider is that most people who have experience with electric, and are using electric regularly are using cheap resistive coil or infrared coil stoves that just use timer on/off for temp modulation. These have the same inefficiency issues that you argue gas has, but they are electric. They're terrible to cook on, and I'm sure you know what I mean.\n\nI can understand the clean air initiative and respect that that is the most desirable choice for you. Nothing wrong with that at all. I however will be going with gas heat for both air and water at my next house. The price per BTU on gas is just so cheap because of fracking. You'll pay 2x-3x over the lifetime of the units in my area since we get real winters here. I am actually about to replace my tanked heater at my current house with a 93% efficient tankless gas unit, that can produce 4.5 gallons at 80F temp rise (necessary for my area in the winter). You just can't do that with electric unless you get more than a 200A service, as the tankless electric units able to do that use 45KW.", "No one considers externalities because they do not feedback directly into immediate financial consequences for the consumer, they tend to be outside the remit of financial reporting. The cost savings are marginal compared to the upfront cost.", "\"equivalent\" was the key word here.", "I honestly don't know much about heat pumps more than a surface level of understanding, I didn't catch that part. If GP is needing to use resistive heating I think it's fair to say they got the wrong size heat pump, and it's a fault of the purchaser not the technology.", "Not really when you consider how rural most of the US is, with exposed power lines.", "Having a hard time finding our model. It may be on the back or something. But it was the LG Cafe series with a double oven and induction range. I'm sure you can't buy our model anymore, but I'm seeing some for sale that are pretty similar. The range has knobs. The oven has touch buttons, but no controls on the flat surface (all on a vertical surface on the front), and I've never had any problems with water over the controls.", "Pretty sure if you try to use it as a paddle in a canoe your going to over because you will be putting a large mass well away from the center of gravity.", "It's still a wild embellishment, dude.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing", ">Right, and if that was the point. OP should have said that. But he didn't.\n\nIf you follow u/goki's link on his original point, which he I see has redirected you back to to clarify where his BTU numbers came from you will find he is actually making exactly this point. He is using a calculation which factors in the relative efficiency of induction hobs. [The explanation is here, if you need the middle man cut out.](https://theinductionsite.com/how-induction-works.php)\n\n>Lastly, inductive heating IS resistive heating. Please stop arguing from a point of ignorance. The resistance is just occurring in the bottom of the pan instead of a ceramic/iron resistor coil.\n\nYou know exactly the distinction I am making, but you have decided be deliberately obtuse to allow you to label me as ignorant. For someone who claims to just be after a \"nice conversation\" you sure are going out of your way to be unpleasant.", "Okay, so being less obtuse.\n\nSure, I totally agree induction cooktops are able to more effectively apply the heat they produce to the food being cooked. I honestly think that they are the future for cooking food. Fine temperature control too with the PWM models. Induction cooktops are expensive though, and this limits their application.\n\nYou have to consider that the vast majority of people do not have access to this tech. They are left using resistive ceramic/IR coil ranges that have the EXACT same inefficiency issues as gas, where a lot of the heat gets pushed into the air around the stove, rather than the food. So for the average person, that efficiency argument doesn't make a lick of difference anyway, you know?\n\nThese stoves are also TERRIBLE with temp control. I'm sure you've cooked on them and know what I mean. Have to use cast iron to even out the temp fluctuations, and even then it's not enough sometimes.\n\nIt just rubs me the wrong way when people embellish stuff a ton to try to make a point.", ">Astroturfing is the practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g., political, advertising, religious or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by grassroots participants. It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source's financial connection. The term astroturfing is derived from AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to resemble natural grass, as a play on the word \"grassroots\". The implication behind the use of the term is that instead of a \"true\" or \"natural\" grassroots effort behind the activity in question, there is a \"fake\" or \"artificial\" appearance of support.\n\nOh, I didn't know that! Thank you! I thought Astroturfing was only a term for fake grass. Today I learned", "Always to remember to look out for it on this kind of content (climate science)", "~~Now I'm more confused though... Is the OP of this comment thread saying that the video by Climate Town is Astroturfing, or the influencers on Instagram promoting gas stoves are astroturfing?~~\n\n~~My hunch is the influencers are the astroturfers, but I just want to make sure~~\n\nGot it! Good to know", "I got me some solar panels so my cost is 0. Also, no emissions, which was the point of getting the solar panels in the first place.\n\nAlso, I’m not crazy about all the carbon monoxide that gets produced by nat gas.", "I pretty much agree, increasing the BTU number for induction hobs rather than reducing it for gas hobs is a really stupid way to make the comparison. The trouble is I can see why people would be forced to do this - it isn't like the induction hob people are going to be able to get people selling gas hobs to put the lower, more accurate number on their product, so the only thing they can do is put the higher one on theirs to try to make the comparison a little fairer.\n\nThere is also a big problem with access to good quality induction. I lucked out moving into a house with an induction set up that probably cost >1000$ to install, but that's far from the norm, and the old electric style while cheap are... not good.\n\nAnd to be fair to you, calling it \"resistive heating\" was pretty stupid. I was about to write \"resistive hob\" then remembered that IR ones were a thing and didn't know what to call them to went with \"resistive heating\" which is even more wrong.", "To be blunt, I think you might be operating under some fairly important misunderstandings about electric hobs, and what people are talking about when they talk about induction hobs.\n\nThere are three main mechanisms through which electric hobs work - resistive, IR and induction. All types of electric hobs can have a glass top and most the glass topped ones out there aren't induction.\n\nResistive are the old, coil of metal that you put your pan on type, here the coil is a big resistor that heats up when current is applied, which is conducted to the bottom of the pan heating it up. \n\nIn IR hobs there is a heating element that is heated to a very high temperature which produces IR radiation, which radiates through a sheet of glass and heats the bottom of the pan. Neither IR or resistive hobs use induction in any meaningful way.\n\nInduction hobs on the other hand use rapidly alternating magnetic fields to induce a current in the bottom of the pan and heat the pan directly, without heating the hob significantly.\n\nResistive ones are the ones that take ages to heat up and cool down, and don't glow, IR ones glow a deep red and send heat everywhere, but heat up a bit faster. Inductions ones are the ones that just heat the pan - the hob itself doesn't get hot but might buzz a bit.", "This comment is just so weird to read after watching the video.", "Yes the influencers are the astroturfers. I think the OP was also referencing some of the comments on this particular thread too.", "for the comments!", "We have a 4-pit built-in induction stove we got from there. It remember I was surprised about the price. In terms of sheer power, it boils water faster than anything I have ever seen.", "I wish the gas companies would use their $ and influence to bring back King of the Hill and make Hank Hill their representative.", "For what they cost, I really Hope you like it!", "> Maybe you should apply that logic to improving green solutions\n\nYou're literally commenting on a video that's talking about how the introduction and improvement of induction cooktops in recent years has made electric stoves insanely better than the old resistive electrics.\n\nIf we waited for every single downside of a new technology to be solved (while ignoring the massive downsides of the old technology), and for every recalcitrant user to be convinced, before anyone switched at all, we'd all still be using incandescent bulbs everywhere.\n\nThe video is pointing out how good induction cooktops have gotten, and all the ways in which they're environmentally superior to gas ranges, and advocating that we start adopting them more broadly. I don't know why so many people take that as a personal insult. It's also worth pointing out that a good chunk of the video is about a marketing campaign the natural gas industry is undertaking because they're afraid of exactly how much the green solutions have improved; the very thing that you said should be done. Such that absent huge marketing dollars, consumers will naturally choose the green solution on its merits.", "> Rikers\n\nThat is not the island you're thinking of.", "It's 2 minutes from boiling water being added to noodles, I can boil the water in half the time the jug takes and I don't end up with a damp microwave.", "ah thanks, I didn't know about 2min noodles. that makes sense", "Oh no, it actually is. I was told it by an electrical engineer and even I didn't believe it.\n\nThe voltage in your AC line is 240V RMS, meaning the 'average' active to neutral voltage is 240 volts, with the neutral set at roughly 0V relative to ground. \n\nWhen you add in three sources of electricity with 240V RMS but each offset in phase by 120°, the phase to phase RMS voltage ends up being 415V (√3 x 240).", "This is definitely the best possible approach!", "Pollution from burning natural gas isn't reflected in its price to the consumer, plus subsidies, makes for a cheaper energy source", "I thought that 90s gas stove rap was something I hallucinated as a kid.", "Have any other non-relevant facts?", "Got it. So regular electric stove = crap (at least for cleaning), induction stove = awesome. Now I know.", "can you provide any evidence of this? or are you relying on asserting your opinion as fact?", "excellent. an honest appraisal of the information.", "so have my massive deposits", "Your question was if using an electric appliance is cleaner than one that burns a fossil fuel.....that answer should be pretty obvious but you're welcome to Google it up if you're still unsure. The argument of \"but electricity usually comes from burning coal/gas\" is stupid because it doesn't change the fact that using a gas stove would create even more emissions than using an electric stove which doesn't create any additional emissions beyond what's already being created to feed the grid.", "You're the one bringing up lithium mining in a post about induction burner. How is that relevant?", "Did you not read the chain? English a second language?", "Sounds pretty groovy, I'll look into it when I move outta my current apartment in a year or two. Thanks mate.", "Lol yea I edited my comment like 11 minutes before your reply after I watched it.", "I guess I missed one of the comments that changed the context of the comment chain. Sorry about that.", "How many watts is it? I thought they were super expensive but looks like you can get standalone units for a $100-200, guess you're limited to like 2400watts for plug-in appliances though.", "And I didn't need to be a dick about it. I'm sorry about that.", "https://www.lg.com/us/cooking-appliances/lg-LSE4617ST-electric-range", "He's talking about the gas companies being climate deniers because of money. He literally says that your not a bad person if you cook with gas just that induction is actually really good.", "so, we burn the fuel, generate electricity, have significant energy losses in transmission, vs burning the fuel on location at a significantly higher efficiency.\n\nright.", "The grid is more efficient than you realize. The carbon impact from you using a gas stove is greater than that from any inefficiencies via transmission loss", "Weird. My parents have had the same induction cooktop for over 8 years now. A capacitor failed once but that was an easy fix. I'll have to ask them what brand it was when I get my own.", "TIL: Astroturf is a brand of synthetic grass", "This is what a lot of people on here don't understand. Even with the efficiency of a heat pump, the price of gas is still quite cheaper than the electricity for equivalent amounts of heat energy in many places.\n\nI just got a new 96% gas furnace installed recently and looked at all the numbers on gas vs. heat pump before I bought. Economically, it just didn't make sense for me to get a heat pump right now. I care about my carbon footprint, but just can't afford to throw money away right now.", "The cost I stated was 100% resistive heat. Yes, a heat pump would have reduced that cost significantly but it would still be more expensive to purchase the electricity to run the heat pump compared to what natural gas costs me.\n\nThe times I need the heat the most in the cold Michigan winters is when heat pump efficiency is at its worst. I would have loved to switch to a heat pump to replace both my A/C and furnace, but it just doesn't make financial sense right now.", "Yeah thats what I was trying to convey to the other person who was pushing for a heat pump. All things considered a heat pump costs 0.7 cents per hour more for where I live compared to natural gas. And as you said too, the upfront cost currently negates the long term savings.", "Ah, I see. Yes, it is around the same cost difference for me too. I really tried to the numbers work to justify it, but the budget just couldn't swing it yet. Maybe 10-15 years from now it'll make more sense.", "can you provide evidence of that please.", "just to thrown up some related numbers, high effieciency gas and desiel boilers are running at 98 percent efficiency.\n\nnot stoves, i know, but it gives an indication of the technology.\n\ncan you please give some solid data and verify the claims you have made with regard to efficiency of energy transmission through copper or aluminium conductors.", "I realise that my parents situation is an anomaly, it is just awful bad luck they have had to have them fail. But it has really effected my view on them, which is a shame. Maybe one day I’ll rebuild a kitchen and put one in, or buy a house with one.", "Something about a \"wifi enabled\" oven makes me laugh, even though I can understand it.", "Yes, there are places where it makes sense to do this. If a majority of your energy is provided by sustainable means, it absolutely is the correct move. But less than 20% of the power grid comes from such sources, including nuclear.\n\nDirty energy sources creating electricity to be used to create heat is absolutely not more efficient than using gas directly to create heat. There is no plant that efficient to make that possible. There is OBVIOUS loss of energy at all steps of that process, and that isn't including the excess energy created that we have to dump because we have no good way of storing excess energy (which is the biggest problem with widespread green energy that needs to be solved).\n\nFrankly, if you don't believe me, look at the energy bill of two houses powered by natural gas plant where one uses natural gas for oven and heating, and the other uses electricity for both. The difference in price is astonishing. And, believe me, they aren't giving discounts to gas customers out of some kind of stupid PR campaign.", "Honestly, I wish we had more green options, but until we do: we need the gas. We need power to provide necessary services like hospitals, heating, cooling, food storage… etc. not to mention the petroleum for transportation, medical devices (made of plastic), lubricants, etc. \nI don’t think I’m the right person to decide who gets to heat their home this winter, or who gets a new pacemaker, so I’ll keep finding gas until someone else finds a better solution. \n(Hurry please, this industry is very volatile and unpredictable)", "I’m jealous. I just bought a 70 year old home with an electric cooktop.", "1- it’s hyperbole\n2- is unaffordable", "Prefer not to make pasta at all… but I boil the water in the kettle while my slow electric cooktop gets the pot slightly warm, then I pour the boiling water into the slightly-warm pot and wait for it to boil again. Then I add the noodles. My kids love pasta… I don’t get it", "Probably because you're retarded.", "Love it, keep that weird misplaced hate coming! 😘", "It's just fact", "I really need to inhale more carbon monoxide then", "Another happy induction user here! It’s actually more powerful than gas stoves and it’s way easier to clean. If you have an electric cooktop it shouldn’t be hard to swap it out for an induction.\n\nEdit: typo" ]	1,013	videos	Natural gas companies are sponsoring influencers to slow the change to greener alternatives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPxKwjzqc84	/r/videos/comments/qycjfa/what_was_the_biggest_empire_in_history/	[ "What about acre-years (an acre held for a year). That way it takes into account the size over time, not just a snapshot at the peak, which might not mean much. Quickly grabbing lots of land and then immediately losing it is kind of lame.", "The Mongol Empire. Without clicking the video.", "Can we talk about this formatting for a second? It's a thing of beauty. It presumes you've read the title and jumps right in. Explores the concepts, details the necessary qualifications, and nominates candidates for each.\n\nNo clickbait, no bullshit. It could have been twice the length and added more historical detail to each of it's subjects, but otherwise I love it.", "Peak British teams had 3/4 of the land on earth", "Guess I was wrong. 2nd place is not too bad. Thank you for that knowledge.", "The Brits really lost a 3-0 lead over the entire world, huh?", "It's only 1:48. Watch the video.", "You got it. My gut initially said Mongolia too, then remembered the British. Mongolia did it in a more gnarly fashion though", "Too bad youtube hates you if your video is under 2 minutes", "The Romans made it 2100 years before government corruption led to their downfall. Can the United States hold out another 1,850 more years?", "People consider the Roman empire to have existed from 2100 years? I guess that's defining it from the start of the Roman Republic, to the fall of Constantinople. Seems like a stretch.", "Pssssh, day by day", "How so? The eastern half being referred to as “Byzantine” is a relatively recent term. At the time they very much still considered themselves Roman and still marched under the SPQR flag", "Can you really call yourself a Roman empire when you don't even have Rome as the capitol or even part of the empire? And to call it an actual Empire during the later stages is a bit of a stretch", "Or there could be some formula taking into account territory, time, and fraction of total world population.", "Yes? Considering the government, people and, to a lesser extent, culture are directly part of Rome and it’s continuation. \n\nBy your logic the various continuations of Egypt and China should be considered something different", "Sometimes things are named for other things for historical reasons. Americans speak English despite not being in England. New Mexico isn't part of Mexico.\n\nWhy wouldn't you call the Eastern Roman Empire an empire? It sure looks like an empire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire#/media/File:Byzantine_Empire_animated.gif", "Well yeah. So Americans don't call themselves British, and people from New Mexico don't call themselves Mexicans.\n\nLook at a picture of the Byzantine empire in 1204 and tell me that's an empire that survived until the 1400s", "Cuz more commercials?", "this comment thread is hilarious for everyone who actually watched the video", "Unless it's below 1 minute, they're really promoting their Tiktok knock-off.", "Kazakhistan? What is Kazakh-i-stan?", "Ah, well. Run along now", "yeah not sure why he includes the centuries where rome was a kingdom and then a republic.", "I get your point, but I also agree that labels should be changed when they no longer apply. The eastern roman empire may have been roman in name, but it was very much greek in every other aspect. Even if though there was a continuous historical thread from the start of the roman republic leading to the fall of Constantinople so much was changed along the way that labelling it all as \"The Roman Empire\" is not entirely accurate or useful.\n\n>By your logic the various continuations of Egypt and China should be considered something different\n\nthose two nations are usually broken up into different dynasties, and not just on ruling families but also cultural norms and ruling geography.", "The romans were constantly plagued by corruption, the empire itself was founded on corruption, there were multiple points of crisis where the emporer's postion was being sold off to the highest bidder by corrupted government officials. The roman empire lasted as long as it did because it had a big fuck off army the went to every other worthwhile place and either took it over or pounded it to dust.", "mcdonalds", "I would prefer total percentage of global wealth", "I'd be interested in terms of \"sphere of influence\", because that would definitely be the United States shortly after WW2, and would include pretty much the entire Earth excluding the Soviet sphere of influence.\n\nYou don't have to plant a flag in the ground to be an empire imho", "Area is the amount of surface a two-dimensional shape can cover, measured in Kazakhstans in metric system.", "By the time the Western Empire fell it was nothing at all like \"The Roman Empire\" people envision when they think about Rome. The Capital wasn't even Rome anymore. I'd argue at that point the East was more Roman than the West was and Constantinople was built to emulate the city of Rome. The contemporaries of the Byzantines from its inception to its fall called them Roman, they called themselves Roman too. What made them \"Roman\" was the continuation of Roman legal traditions and customs. People change, culture changes, generational differences aren't a modern phenomena. The Byzantines were still Roman and a direct continuation of the Empire.", "Not linked to your post, but I just visited Rome and was really amused by all the bins and manohole covers having SPQR on them", "It asks what metric should be used to measure the biggest empire, but by using the word biggest it obviously means landmass. \n\nNobody thinks the length of an empires rule decides if it is the biggest. \n\nIf he had just said 'best' or something along those lines instead of biggest, it would have made much more sense.", "Poland shifted like 500 miles West but it's still Poland...", "What about absolute population size? It's a lot easier to have the biggest population share when the population is smaller.", "For an Empire my guess would be on the British as att its height it contained half a billion subjects, roughly a quarter of the worlds population. Although it is worth noting that that is less than some nations today.", "Glad I'm not the only one that jumped out at. I would have thought by now that most people knew of Kazakhstan and how to pronounce it.", "\"Mongol\" empire.\n\nOr what should be known as Tartaria.\n\nChina and Russia have actively destroyed history in regards to Tartaria.\n\nWe all think of these people as barbarians, but they were powerful enough to beat Rome.", "I'm not sure you could call modern India or China \"empires\".", "There is a separation between the Roman and Byzantine empire for a reason. \n\nNo matter how they thought of themselves. Perspective does apply.\n\nDuring the time that the Byzantine empire existed there were more than one claimant to the \"heritage\". Sometime many at once. Charlemagne controlled the \"first\" holy Roman empire (of which Hitler got 3rd dibs). Prussia and Austria tussled over the title, and everyone got a piece of the pie, from Romania and Poland, to Russia and Germany.\n\nFinally the US state of New York labeled itself the \"empire state\" on all its automobile license plates for years, but no one actually thought it militarily controlled overseas holdings (and no, the skyscraper of fame is not the source but rather another recipient of the motto).\n\nClaiming that the Byzantine = Roman is as absurd as claiming Byzantine = Athens (city state). After all the cultural appropriation has a clear lineage.", "Probably the Roman Empire would win by that count given their duration.", ">There is a separation between the Roman and Byzantine empire for a reason.\n\nThere is not a separation in the way you think there is. \"Byzantium\" or \"The Byzantine Empire\" is a completely modern term, coined after the empire fell. At the time, it was simply \"Rome,\" and had an unbroken and continuous lineage of Roman political heritage. \n\nIt would be sort of like if today a volcano took out everything east of the Mississippi river and the only thing left of America was the west. What would you call the surviving nation? Of course we would still call it \"The United States of America,\" and it would be silly to say it's not really America just because it doesn't include the original 13 colonies. Of course it's America...what else would it be?", "If a volcano destroys everything east of the Mississippi river, would you still call the country west of the river \"The United States of America\" even though none of the original 13 colonies are part of it?\n\nIf so, then Byzantium is the Roman Empire.", "If you think the British Empire was full of empty space, I have some bad news for you about the Mongols...", "The British American colonies had a war of independence. By your reasoning they are still a colony of Great Britain. Turns out the USA doesn't actually exist.", "No, that's not at all what I said. There was no war of independence for the eastern part of the Roman Empire. In fact, before the city of Rome fell, it wasn't even the cultural, economic, or political capitol of the Roman empire anymore. The Roman Empire was squarely centralized in the east long before the western part of it collapsed.\n\nMaybe you can start by reading the [Wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire) on the Byzantine Empire and see if you still feel like they were not Roman.", "So what the smallest empire?", "yes.", "That’s why he called them ‘nations’", "And also no awfully cringy attempts at humor that do not work at all.", "contiguous isn't, \"that island doesn't count there's some water in the way!\" isn't an argument anyone would buy.\n\nBut relative population sounds like it could fit at least.", "You think the mongol empire was packed to the gills? The Gobi desert is right in the middle.", "Is china not an empire? They control and colonize areas like Tibet. They have the highest total population.", "> What do you think Australia is and still is today? \n\nGod's own country, mate!", "I was thinking the mongolian empire was kind of like Australia, except both sides are populated.", "Wrong about what?", "really depends on how much weight you put into each variable and how you scale it. \n\n \n\nAnother factor might be how much power the emperor or the government holds over its territory. There's a difference between the emperor having the absolute power in theory and also in practise to decide whatever he wants regardless if it's in the capital or thousands of kilometres away or the empire is just the formal name of a territory which has multiple leaders in each of their respective regions.", "Indeed, many overlook this. It was always called the Roman Empire, or \"the empire\". It was the Western Roman Empire that was given a separate designation and floundered.", "Especially after they had a really famous documentarian from the country achieve international success. They even made a film about him.", "Check out “History Matters” on YouTube. This guy kills it at this sort of thing too", "A stretch would be if it included Holy Roman Empire (1st Reich).", "I don't think this is possible. \"Wealth\" is very subjective, because different cultures value(d) things differently, especially when you are going back thousands of years.", "confident ignorance at least is funny af to witness", "The idea that the Roman Empire ceased to exist with the fall of Rome is a recent invention, the modern public understanding is the stretch, not the historical reality, where continuity ceased with the 4th Crusade and finally collapsed in 1453.", "The US isn't an empire.", "You don't think the nature of empire changed after WWII?\n\nI think the British started turning it into a science, but the United States perfected it. Who would be stupid enough to plant a flag in the ground? Just bankroll a dictator." ]	66	videos	What was the Biggest Empire in History?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqtGYLQ_xM	/r/videos/comments/qycnzn/what_lurks_in_the_depths_of_the_ocean/	[ "Probably just more ocean.", "Oh my god ❤️", "That was excellent.", "Watch the dang video ya dingus." ]	4	videos	What lurks in the depths of the Ocean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJag2LXHY14	/r/videos/comments/qydfrz/esports_streamer_gets_banned_live_on_twitch_for/	[ "What is “smurfing”?\n\n(Thank you to everyone who answered, I’ve never heard of such a weird term to describe cheating.)", "Looked it up, Smurfing is when a high-level player creates a new account to play against lower-ranked players.", "You are a full grown 250lbs man, you sneak into a middle school wrestling tournament. You defeat the children easily, because you are stronger and more capeable than them. You are \"smurfing\" when you intentionally enter a contest with a higher skill level than the intended participants so you can have an easy time achieving \"victory\" over players that are trying to match with others in their skill class.", "BSJ plays the game Dota 2, he was caught buying accounts", "Imagine this.\n\nYou're Lebron James, basketball professional, multi-millionaire. You're thinking it's time to play some basketball. You could play against other professionals, but then you might be challenged, you'll actually have to try if you want to win, you might... lose. Then you hear it, the sound of teens laughing, the bass thumping of a dribbling basketball and you see it out of the corner of your eye. There's kids playing the game you love on a court nearby!\n\nYou know you want to play basketball, but you don't want to be challenged or want to try, you just want to win. You're Lebron James after all, a hypocritical piece of shit. You can't let them KNOW you're Lebron James though. What kids want to be destroyed by a professional? So you put on a costume and pretend that you're just some random, freakishly tall teen with no coordination, you're hamming it up by missing shots, tripping, and being unable to dribble.\n\nYou join in on the pickup game and it starts. You're dunking on these kids, breaking bones with your body blocks, concussions all around. The score is 50 to 0 and you don't even pass to your teammates, you just run everyone over and DUNK. Kids are crying, there's blood everywhere, you've ruined the game and now everyone is going home disappointed except for you, Lebron James.\n\nYou won, and all you care about is winning and showing how good you are. Look at how poorly those kids played! You're not amazing at the game, they're just bad! It doesn't matter that you ruined the game for everyone else by pretending to be worse than you actually are, you're selfish and self centered, it's been a hard day and you just need a win! You're tired after work, it won't matter if you ruin the game for everyone else, you need to feel good!\n\nSo there you stand Lebron James the smurf, ruining the game for everyone else so you can feel a bit better about yourself and the fact you can't deal with losing or don't actually want to try.", "Good animation explaining it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHw9o_0zbZc", "Making a new account to win. Sorry, I don't have a long winded and partially incorrect analogy for you.", "It wasn't buying an account he was doing an \"educational smurf\" one of his viewers allowed him to play on their account to show how higher level concepts apply in lower rated games. It is still against Steam's TOS and is controversial so a ban is not unwarranted on that account but it is far from buying accounts.", "Account got banned for breaking Steam's TOS a viewer was letting him play a game on their account. He has a series called \"educational smurf\" where he shows how higher level concepts applies to low MMR games.", "This was so well written and Lebron caught so many strays, I had to read this to my wife. Thank you.", "How do you think all the other people in the game feel.", "> It wasn't buying an account he was doing an \"educational smurf\" one of his viewers allowed him to play on their account\n\nI am not saying this is the case for BSJ. But some of the streamers who will perform an educational stream using a viewer account, are paid to do so by that viewer. It's just a front for ELO boosting. With a different name since ELO boosting isn't allowed.\n\nTonnes of smurf streamers are boosting accounts on stream or off stream for cash.", "So he got someone elses account banned? lmao", "Not gonna lie, that's something I see Lebron James doing IRL", "Ye the viewer should've known the risks", "This is not the case for BSJ this is educational content for his YouTube channel. It is a bit controversial in the DotA community these type of educational videos but he is not boosting accounts. BSJ is also one of the biggest DotA streamers and personalities he is not just some random high skill player/streamer that boosts accounts. I am not defending his actions but to call him a booster or account buyer is just not true.", "It’s also when you put yourself with lower-ranked players to shift the matchmaking in your favour.", "Sounds like it's basically Hustling, pretending you're an inexperienced player for an advantage.", "Ohhh I used to love when this happened in late night Halo 2 big team battles. Yeah, I’m old.", "I wish all explanations were provided to me in story format like this!", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFqhsv3H1g", "r/smurfingirl", "When I was younger, and in the martial arts tournament world, we called this \"sandbagging\"", "Thanks, never heard it called that before. In World of Tanks we call that a \"re-roll\".", "This is another thing that League of Legends needs to steal.\n\nBan all smurfs!", "What a lot of people don’t understand about some top streamers is that they often have to do all kinds of BS for hours just to find a good “no thumbs” lobby for one 15 min video showing them going off on players that never even fire their weapons in 3v1 encounters with the streamer.", "League practically monetizes smurfing. They ain't doing shit.", "Let me dream damnit", "What is the benefit to having an artificially high ELO? Wouldn't that just result in the real person getting matched with people that destroy him once the less talented account owner resumes playing again.", "The people who do this think their teammates are the problem they \"stuck\" at their current ELO. They're wrong.", "That honestly sounds utterly insane to me, when the whole point of Elo is a relative skill level algorithm.\n\nI was kind of expecting something like \"DOTA gives 2 free skins to people who are at XX Elo rating or above every month\", leading to a counterintuitive scenario where the account owner doesn't ever play the boosted account in order to preserve the rating they paid for to get freebies.", "Nope, it's just delusional people spending money.", "I didn't get too into Halo's multiplayer until 3. Halo Infinite just released and I'm having a lot of fun with Big Team Battle for that reason. A lot of the opponents must be 10 year olds taking advantage of a F2P. It's great.", "Sand bagging is trying to lose", "Not where I'm from. Where I'm from, 'sandbagging' would be a black belt entering a tournament as a yellow belt just to whip up on them and score an easy win.\n\n[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sandbag](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sandbag)\n\n>to hide the truth about oneself so as to gain an advantage over another", "Nope.", "Different meaning in different contexts. Sandbagging in card games, like spades, means intentionally trying to lose.", "How did they know his is smudging?", "How does someone get caught smurfing? Is there some kind of algorithm that tells the game there is no way this player should be this good or something?", "“Going Smurfing” is basically beating up on the little guys. Shortened to Smurfing. Then they started calling people who were Smurfing, Smurfs.", "Same as rocket league. Never have I seen a smurfing problem that bad. Some users even put the word “smurf” in their names, taunting the devs as if to say “fuck you, you ain’t gonna do shit and I know it”", "it bothers me because it's like calling fisherman a fish", "Also Some people base so much of their own self worth into the idea of being seen as hogh Elo, they will boost it just so that they can say they were. It’s all very mail adjusted behavior", "Not necessarily trying to lose as much as it is sluffing off good cards so you don’t take more tricks than you bid.\n\nThough oddly enough, depending on your region: ‘sandbagging’ can also be used as taking more tricks than you bid. Or more colloquially known as ‘bagging’.", "So...it's seal clubbing. We already have a good word for it.", "You mean seal clubbing.", ">Its educational bro im just smashing these noobs with knawledge bro. They learn from this brah.\n\nEducational my ass lmao. Its fun to smurf but these morons acting like they are doing a service is pathetic.", "He is a content creator know for his coaching and educational content. They are his highest viewed videos on YouTube so there is a financial motive behind it. Don't really agree with it but it is not boosting or account buying.", "I'm pretty sure no one outside of Valve can answer that question with certainty, and no one at Valve is going to tell, because cheat/smurf/exploit protection works a whole lot worse when people know how it works and can figure out ways to game the system.", "[*maladjusted](https://imgur.com/a/E1Jujhd)", "so valve knows how to make good bots for the game, right? so, in lots of situations, valve knows, what a player \"should\" do.\n\nthey probably have a basic cheating system in place that can \"rank\" your account, and give you an internal rating. \"this guy is a 22%. that's how often he does what the bot system says he would he should do\". and then all of a sudden, for 3 games in a row, he starts registering at 86%.........you don't make that big of a jump, for 3 games in a row.......this is a different person.......this is a pro player now.", "> You mean seal clubbing.\n\nNah, seal clubbing isn't necessarily a new account. Sometimes well established accounts will drop to lower tiers to blast some noobs.", "Sand Bagging is a racing term. Basically when you are qualifying you want to go fast enough to qualify for a certain class but not too fast to get bumped into the next. So you load your trunk with sandbags and give it everything so you appear slower than you are. When the actual race happens, you remove the sand bags and are miraculously faster.", "So, transgender athletes are technically smurfing, right?" ]	54	videos	Esports streamer gets banned live on twitch for smurfing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsl0EzkbxHg	/r/videos/comments/qydqib/channel_5_reunion_just_dropped_as_a_merch_ad_so/	[ "Let's keep it 55th street. Andrew Callaghan got fucked over for No Gas No Breaks and I hope he succeeds. But this merch ain't it. I want a giant image of his face on a hoodie. \n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/ZSCgaN4.png", "its not rocket science.", "Andrew made this shit. If he isn't involved, I don't care. Is he involved.", "This dude fell off", "From that fifty fif street.", "Don't be a custer", "They brought back the cabinets guy!\n\nI don’t know how he manages to get all these people together.", "??? Of course he is. This is channel 5, it's his thing.", "Crip mac drops more consistent and legible information than maga chick.", "A convergence of power seen only once every 100,000 years.", "As someone who religiously watches everything Andrew does, this gave me the same feeling that I got the first time I saw The Avengers.", "They can't not be paid actors right?", "Hey, wanna make $1000 to be in our new video?", "imma keep it 55th street.", "Ok", "Custer spotted.", "Donald Trump is a custer he could never ce a criiIIiip", "Forgot to put quotes on my comment and now I'm on the phone with my mom asking for 1k.", "Goddamn the suave in his voice always cracks me up.", "You're thinking about all gas no breaks, that's done for good. This is Channel 5.", "Ima keep it 55th street, you’re a mad Custer", "“Donald Trump kept it 55th street but now he’s a custer”", "Genius marketing.", "I think they are real people. But it’s also a performance, Andrew gives platforms to people who have strong personalities who seek attention (and behave in attention seeking ways).\n\nAs they say, truth is stranger than fiction.", "Yo i stood up when the kid started rapping", "Everyone is here except the Hoff twins and one of the pickup artists. Guess they'll have to save that for the sequel.", "Love me some Channel 5, but that merch looks like hot garbage. Someone lied to them about having design experience. A clusterfuck, like they had all these ideas and put them on one shirt.", "Hoff Twins aint no custers, they don't wanna get on Andrews Freakshow to sell merch.", "Im going to keep it 55th and agree, this merch looks like doodoo.", "They were there for the last merch drop vid.", "The maga dude/chick are probably legitimately crazy, but are also playing it up for attention/views, which is how they got noticed/on the channel in the first place.", "This is a masterpiece", "man i wasn't ready for the channel 5 cinematic universe to come all together", "He’s literally in the video dööd", "This dude looks like a 30-teen year old", "This is a more ambitious team up than endgame", "I'm high. This works.", "That kid is actually good at rapping.", "What’s the song at the beginning?", "fucking kelly binkard", "that's how you keep it 55th street", "It's like all the characters that give you side quests in a GTA game got together in one place", "I was really hoping for a modern edge custom cabinets logo tshirt lol dangit", "Getting serious Baader-Meinhoff vibes from all of this. Had never heard of Channel 5 until this week, now I’m seeing it everywhere.", "This is riding a line on being exploitative. \"Here's the circus freak show that I found for your amusement, now give me money.\"\n\nAs individual character pieces, it wasn't as obvious. But rounded up all together, for the purpose of being used as an advertisement to sell merch, it feels different.\n\nNot a fan.", "I feel like the rule of modern clothing design is the shittier it looks the more you can charge for it.", "He needs to get on the \"Never Commit Suicide\" remix", "I love it, he clowns the dumb maga bitch and she hawks merch for him.", "100 percent. Take kanyes clothing or supreme. Your right the shittier the look better. If it makes the normal person cringe when looking at it the better.", "Aw I love the black coat with the logo on it. Just not enough to drop $120 on it.", "I can't tell if that statement shows that the country is healing or if we are all just collectively going insane.", "On the plus side, a lot of merch costs that much because they are using American labor as opposed to outsourcing to China.", "They like attention, that's why they stepped up to the mic in the first place. They're not children, they can make adult decisions. Dude promoted his cabinets, Mac and the kid rapped, the others promoted a political message. And they all definitely got paid, so what's the issue.", "Chet Hanks was too busy working on his new TikToks", "Channel 55 lol", "True. Donald Trump is a Custer. He could never c a crip.", "The issue is that everyone likes watching this because some of these people (but not all) are various forms of crazy.\n\nAndrew seeks out the crazy, and highlights the crazy, and on an individual level that feels fine. It's good to see the vast array of human experience that exists. But that doesn't change the fact that you're watching it because you find the crazy interesting. The crazy is the selling point.\n\nBut when he rounds up all the crazy specifically to sell his merch, that feels different. That feels exploitative. It's no longer about showing individual stories. It's about selling a product, based on our fascination with the crazy.\n\nI know he's gotta keep the channel running somehow, but this doesn't seem like the best way to me.", "Also not to mention either getting a kick-back for him using your likeness/work for merch, or the promotion of having it on it in general.\n\nThat rapping kid has easily gotten attention in a way that most up-and-comers would kill for.", "Seriously - I hate to say I hope the old brand becomes worthless, but it's so great to see his new channel zooming right past 1 million subscribers. I've never seen such an honest and candid interviewer, and the lack of censorship really allows people to be as genuine as they come.", "aaaand Channel 5 is now WSHH", "Hey I’ll be in the video too", "I’m kinda digging the blue hoodie. I’ve never purchased YouTuber merch before, and I think I’m gonna pull the trigger", "Well you have reasons for your opinion so I respect that", "No, you're a custer", "I mean technically the child is a child. So not all of them.", "NEVER COMMIT SUICIDE!", "BIG UP DA NEW MERCH STA'", "SHUT THE FUCK UP DOUG", "\"text\" by chief keef, sped up by 30.57%", "Dear Americans.\n\nOther people who aren't Americans can also use this website, and also have a Channel 5 news. Please remember that when making your titles on general sub-reddits.\n\nKind Regards,\n\nThe rest of reddit", "Nah this is probably the best way unless you want them to shill for sponsors. You got free entertainment from shit they put a lot of work into, buy a shirt or dont.", "lol Holy shit. They one upped themselves quite hard. The show literally made something trippier than their show.\n\nTbh though it feels like simulation is glitching out hahaha.", "Its not rocket science", "These are the real avengers", "No Chet? I needs me some Chet, papi", "Just about every major city in the U.S. has its own Channel 5 news, not sure why this is so hard for just you. \n\nKind Regards, \n\nThe rest of reddit.", "YOU FUCKING SKUNK.", "Some folks are calling this a freak show but all these people together just look like normal-ass human beings. It makes me realize how I've been conditioned by culture and media to expect that everyone on film must be conventionally attractive; individually they look weird as fuck because normal people aren't usually given solo screen time. I mean, their personalities are outsized but that's just them.", "pyromaniac keepin it 55th street", "I don't agree. If you watch whole interviews, you see that he shows the good side of people. I went away with all these interviews as \"don't be quick to judge people\".", "The kid legit has flows, I'm surprised no one is mentioning him in the comments.", "As an American, I assumed the title referred to the UK's Channel 5 since that is national, whereas anything by that title in the US is going to be a local show that only gets broadcast to the local media market (which might only be like 200,000 people, particularly in rural areas - more of course in big cities).\n\nI'd never heard of this Youtuber before.", "Don't commit suicide.", "Whoever let this kid walk from that last gig is a complete and utter moron.", "Keep it fifty fiiith street", "Marvel: “Avengers Endgame is the biggest team up event in modern history”\n\nChannel 5:", "same. He reminds me of Toad from super Mario when he purrs", "Kinda disappointed those blazers with the patch aren't available.", "Never commit suicide", "Glad to see all the characters in the Channel 5 cinematic universe together", "Never commit suicide, everything gon c alright", "This is amazing because its an ad so great that you want to repost it even though its an ad.\n\nSeeing these people in the same room together is just so good.", "What is the music playing?", "He took the pizza!", "Lmao", "https://imgur.com/a/2RsTSod/", "Fuck me, that is so accurate.", "Never commit suicide \n\nGonna seeee alll right", "Here's the [full song](https://youtu.be/IowLWC3O_H8)", "You can see Tim Heideckers influence with collecting the nutjobs. \n\nIt’s smart; you find these incredible personalities, why only show them once? \n\nThis really is a weird modern version of Stern and freak shows of old.", "That channel is often funny but I can't shake the fact that it might be doing something negative insofar as it tacitly celebrates bad ideas on the grounds that comedy is of the utmost importance. Like, I'm not sure whether Andrew is a nihilist who would be okay with the demise of important institutional power so long as he was laughing in the process.", "I was thinking the same thing, If I owned a music studio, I'd sign this kid asap.", "i still don't know what he means but I bet he's right", "Nasa keep it 55th street", "That's literally the point.", "Feel off of the corporate bandwagon and straight to 55th street, you custer, you would never be put on.", "Ce alright get it Correct Coy!", "these are not people with calendars full of obligations…", "5 5 street! You a Custer C-Jay!", "Just so you know Crips will change all B's in the beginning of words, usually just text but depends on person.", ">fitty", "cringe", "On hood", "I want to know if any of these people are getting merch cuts. He’s using their likeness on at least one of the shirts. If he’s not paying them to come take part in these promo vids, I feel kinda iffy. Borderline exploiting them if they’re not getting any kind of money out of this.", "Andrew has said that he tries to avoid people that are playing a character/not being themselves. So take that for what it is worth.", "I disagree, the baby blue t shirts are fire", "Instant classic", "There are plenty of interviews where he discusses his views. Those could be worth seeking out if you want to know more.", "This is a youtube channel dude", "It is a reform of All Gas No Brakes due to some legal issues. It has been steadily rising over the past few months. But the host has been around for at least two years.", "For real. There are so many crossovers I never expected.", "I doubt many of these people would do it without getting compensated. Maybe cabinet guy and the rapper kid because it’s exposure for them or their business", "A real meeting of the mind", "it's not rocket science", "Hey, wanna make $50 to be in our new video?", "I fucking lost it when she said that", "Not sure if you got the meaning of the clear comment. Dont try to read into it, its verbatim.", "This is the absolute insanity of an ad. Honestly, it's also peak America. These people shouldn't be in the room together repping the same thing. \nBut they are. Maybe if America was a little more Channel 5 and a little less fox/cnn it would get its shit together.", "This crew feels like the South Park versions of real people that don't exist.", "This is like whenever a web comic sells spreads with all of its characters on it lmao", "Not even once.", "This is truly how we will bring America together. Everyone’s just gotta try to smoke more weed, please. For the economy, for the Children!", "Everything is gonna c alright", "If you want to be charitable buy his merch. For your benefit: of course.", "That maga dude (Leslie I think his name is) goes to protests all over the US. Really weird guy, he thinks the government assassinated Kobe Bryant because he was about to expose a child trafficking ring or something like that.\n\n[Jordan Klepper interviewed him in this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO44QtXYgR8)", "How is she maga? She hates trump now. I think she's just Q, who hates trump I assume? Honestly I have no idea what's happening..", "Everything gon’ see alright.", "ce* alright. The whole point is to replace the B (as in blood) in words that begin with B with C (as in crip) \n\nBloods also do the opposite.", "You right. Took me for a whoosh. My cad cuz.", "All good cuz just can't have you out here lookin like no custer", "he aint no custer for sho. straight 55th street.", "Never heard of All Gas No Breaks until this week, either.", "I just realized... He's saying \"Everything gon' 'C' alright,\" because he's a crip and would never say the letter B.", "My jaw actually dropped. A goddamn work of art.", "Jesus Christ Reddit", "Neither do they. They just do what their social media and propaganda outlets tell them to do. She'll be a sTrumpet again in 2024.", "Were you super excited for merch from your local Channel 5?", "I've never wanted to buy anything so bad in my life as one of these shirts. This was a very compelling commercial.", "holy shit this is the single greatest merch drop i've ever seen.", "Keepin it Fifty Fiiif Street.", "No Hodge twins I sleep", "You want a slice of pizza?", "Just wait until you figure out custer", "Tbf it's not really about their appearance, it's their behavior. But yeah, I actually like Andrew's videos because while he obviously focuses on the most extreme characters he finds, it really does give you a view of America that most of us don't see outside our own bubbles.", "Or citches", "Andrew is doing what everyone should. Including people so that they can grow. When the fuck would you ever see a bonafide Crip sitting with a maga fanatic and actually bonding. When everyone cast out that skinny maga guy Andrew took em to Kelly binkard custom cabinets. When that kid wanted to rap Andrew put him on for the hood. This is single best example of changing people's lives by including them. He even gave bootyhole a family.", "I mean, for this video they certainly were. Must have dumped a lot of money on them to get together and have them cooperate this well.", "I was unaware of this (though it makes complete sense when you think about it)\n\nGoing back and rewatching the video with Crip Mac, all of his sentences make so much more sense now!", "He goes by Rowboat. He's got a few tracks on Soundcloud.\n\nhttps://soundcloud.com/xavier-richens-546724069", "That was the greatest thing ive ever seen. Wow", "He was also changing words like \"for\" to \"5\" because of his 55th street stuff", "I'm so confused about what this is....", "boolin", "Whole lot of editing went into making that room less awkward than it was.", "Honestly? No.\n\nI would potentially buy Channel 5 merch but this promotion highlights and makes it clear that I'd be giving money not just to the Channel 5 production crew but also to actually insane people that legitimately hope to use the platform to spread their insane views. Not only makes me not want to buy merch from them, it makes me not want to watch anymore.", "he could never ce a crip\n\nftfy", "amazing video, what does the open hand on the forhead mean", "It's a buster with a C", "Cuh", "Citches with coocs", "What does Crip Mac say in lieu of 'welcome'? Sounds like \"owoo\" or something lol (like when beggar woman thanked him & when Nick thanked him for giving suicide advice)", "Don’t commit suicide", "If this* is what got your panties in a bunch, you might want to steer clear of the internet in general.", "Oh my bad, is not wanting to actually send my cash to Q fanatics and crips unreasonable? Neat. I'll be unreasonable then.", "Then don't?", "Wait, what happened with AGNB?", "…. When did this channel go full maga?", "Apparently Chet Hanks is mad at Andrew for putting one of his old music videos in the channel 5 video. Andrew mentioned it in an interview.", "Cos everything's gonna ce alright", "I love the channel 5 metaverse", "Basically he was an eager kid out of college when he accepted the deal to do AGNB. Channel blew up and started making a shit ton of money, and the company that owned AGNB didn't want to renegotiate a better deal for Andrew even though him and like two other people did everything for the channel and made it what it was at the time. So he walked and started his own shit.", "Aw, man. Now I get the point of the new channel. Thanks.", "If only I had thought of this option, I would have been able to write a whole comment about how this marketing might not be \"genius\" because it would lead to some people not buying stuff from them. Then that would give someone a chance to tell me my panties were in a bunch and we could get some good recursion going.", "Bickin back bein bool…\n\nSmokin on a bigarette, eatin a bowl of cereal…", "On 55th street.", "Wheres my boy Stanli?", "Could someone with more internet knowledge than I put together a list of links for the uninitiated? I know 55 for yesterday but the rest of the characters are unknown to me. Would like to be in the know ya know? I’m impressed nonetheless. TIA!", "5", "They should get cinco to sponsor", "Someone needs to recut this video and put it to the Avengers theme music.", "The only ads I’m interested in.", "Oops, what now?", "Can someone explain this to someone who doesn’t know what this is…", "> cereal…\n\nbereal", "You're keeping it 55th street", "Andrew did a series of videos on Youtube called all gas no breaks. He went to events in USA and interview people. He got a lot of tracktion and now he is in Channel 5. All these people are people he interviewed in the past.", "A lot of people sweating profusely...", "Agreed, wayyyyyy too much going on.", "I doubt it required \"a lot\" of money, these are crazy people who just want attention and have no jobs, a couple hundred bucks would convince them to do literally anything", "Well said. Trump is a master at convincing sheep who follow him that they are not sheep.", "That's some Dan Brown da Vinci code shit.", "And now they don't have shit because they were greedy. Serves them right.", "Watched this last night and my jaw just kept dropping until it finally fell off.", "Can you link a time? Only thing I heard was the Uhuru but that's a different guy. It means freedom in Arabic and he's from the Uhuru video. Crip Mac only says English words.", "Want some pizza?", "Fuck, this got me.", "America has gone full retard…and you know what they say about going full retard.", "Like I said, I can imagine his view being something like\n\n> I just think these are really cool people. I like how they're not concerned with what the system says is true. I think we need representative of these people. Are they wrong? I don't know. Maybe. It's not for me to say. Fuck the system. Fuck The Man. That's what I say and a lot of people appreciate that.\n\n---That nihilism and practically anti-enlightenment view is what I take issue with.", "Do you know where we can get a copy of it? Is it a certain remix of it?", "Of course Trek God would recognize and uplift other young rappers.", "Modern Edge Custom Chad Cabinets", "Channel 5 cinematic universe", "[https://www.youtube.com/c/Channel5YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/c/Channel5YouTube)\n\nHere, a list of links made just for you.", "It ain't rocket science", "No idea lol. Never heard that version before.", "They going to bee the birbus in the bity?", "Those some nice cooccies, ciiitch", "yeah no AGNB characters", "Talladega was my first video", "https://youtu.be/SyU-b1XGKFU?t=2m\n\nhttps://youtu.be/SyU-b1XGKFU?t=6m3s\n\nHe says it both times after getting thanked.", "Those ce some voluptuous creasts, citch. Let my clast some world class cig dick energy on them creasteses.", "Damn auto correct", "i am so lost. what did i miss?", "Just keep it 55th.", "I don’t understand how all these people show up to a reunion and apparently completely miss how insane they come off and how they don’t get into massive arguments. I’m not putting a fucking crib in the same room as a MAGAQ who has is very likely to have some prejudices against inner city people.", "That rapper kid also genuinely has a nice flow.", "Of course the white rapper kid from Utah has the whitest rap name in history", "Everything's gonna C alright", "Guarantee they could’ve made more had they kept it on board and paid him decent enough", "Thanks pal!", "Sounds interesting, anyone have a link to where he talks about it?", "https://clips.twitch.tv/SaltyLongChickenSMOrc-eoAb_DN0kI3WY0Ht\n\nmaybe he mentioned it somewhere else as well but this is where I remember it from", "Fascinating, thanks. You the real MVP.", "Because he wasn't able to use his necromancy to raise JFK Jr from the dead.", "Crip Mac is fuckin hilarious. Crips talk like they are rapping or some shit lmao", "Nah, man I already ate", "Fifty fifth straeeght", "He says on hood. Means swear to God but instead of God it's his block.", "Thanks m8", "Thanks m8", "Keep it fifty fiiiiif 5treeeet", "Five sure", "Excellence", "Cuz I'm a criiip", "Are you taking issue with opinions that you imagined he has? Haha wow", "Watch the video haha wtf", "What is this and why is it so good.... This is my second channel 5 news viewing.... My first was a concert in which Da Baby, didn't show up. What is happening?!", "Or C-5", "This will be raking in millions a month. Props to this dude for the revolution he will lead.", "I hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't bet on it. He lionises Trumpian people for entertainment, all while casting doubt on institutional power.", "I just told you that you can find interviews where he expresses his views, you don’t need to imagine.", "Are you talking about the Vice interview?", "There are good ones on the Minority Report and several others. People don’t really like H3H3 but he has an interview on there too.\n\nI haven’t seen the Vice one but yeah if they interview him that should be fine.\n\nBasically he is a lefty.", "> Basically he is a lefty.\n\nThat actually doesn't absolve him from trivialising and even celebrating bad ideas. I subscribe to the channel, by the way. I think it has a lot of great comedy, but then he turns these kooks into mascots and even admits to having lots of Proud Boy fans and anarchist fans and that is the problem.", "I’d just recommend listening to some interviews.", "I will, but the video in question speaks for itself.", "Kelly Binker - Modern Edge Custom Cabinet fuckin represent. That butthole boy ain’t keepin it 55th street, but it ain’t rocket science, he’s dreaming of ceatin ass. And don’t forget, if you wanna end the tyranny, buy a channel 5 tshirt and wear the FUCK outtta it! Lmao. I love channel 5, Andrew Callahan, and all these fuckin Americans he interviews. Time to be the opposite of a Custer and go buy some merch.", "Where joker?", "I watched most of the Majority Report (not Minority Report) one and he said that moderate liberals who live in gentrified neighbourhoods are as bad a far-Right rioters.", "Right it is Majority Report, my bad.\n\nYeah thats a typical opinion, held by MLK too actually.", "I wonder how many of them actually understand they’re just there to be made fun of.", "This is an elite comment", "That’s literally like something the Mean Girls would do.", "Not really the best look for Andrew, admitting to negligently handling a simple request that was obviously important to someone, then kinda trash talking them afterwards. In addition, its hard to keep the guise of being politically neutral when you're hanging out with Hasan Abi. If you couldn't see his bias in the way he cuts and edits some of his videos, you can definitely see it in his personal life. I'd be fine with it if Channel 5 hadn't already gotten clout for its neutrality and objective takes on situations.", "five real", "fixed, keep it fifty fif", "Worried about that really obese dude who has no neck.\n\nAint no way that guy making it past 50.", "Well how about you stop hoping your assumptions are wrong and draw conclusions from reality instead of your own pessimistic outlook?", "I'm telling you. Just today I watched a video of him saying that moderate liberals are as bad as Right-wing rioters who tried to stop the 2020 presidential election. He make funny content but his populist message against The Man is pretty toxic.", "Making neutral content doesn’t require the person behind it be neutral. His whole thing is that he interviews everyone without really pushing back, just letting them talk, which gives the sense of being unbiased", "They all look like Happy Wheels characters.", "He gives a view in to America that everyone knows exists but no one wants to interact with.", "While this is probably true he likely gets them to act in certain ways like yelling out catch phrases and what not. Notice there isn't much footage of the rapping kid, because he is likely pretty normal but wants to get his career going so he goes along with all of this. Same with the cabinet guy.", "I have cabinet experience and live near his business. I'm compelled to ask for an employment opportunity", "wow my eyes just rolled so hard I think I pulled something\n\nedit: also nobody tell this guy about the hardcore communists that andrew rolls with", "Thanks! Mystifying", "You got a man's name tattooed on your stomach", "he really is building his own cinematic universe", "gentrifiers have committed more real world ethnic cleansing than the vast majority of self-described fascists", "The conversation is over.", "Lol I've lived all my life & today i see Trumpet for the first time... What have i been doing", "I've been using Trumpet for a while now, but this is the first time taking sTrumpet out for a test drive. I like it.", "Yeah i was wondering if it was a typo. What's the difference between sTrumpet & a normal 1?", "https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/strumpet\n\nBit of an old word, I guess. It needs to make a comeback.", "Lol that's another new word i learn today", "It's a good word to have in your arsenal.", "Goes to show ya that we ain’t that different in person after all.\n\nWe’re all fucking morons.", "When his album drops, I hope it's called, \"Gently down the stream\" - Sponsored by Soundcloud." ]	287	videos	Channel 5 reunion just dropped as a merch ad. So many characters I recognize
https://youtu.be/QeMtB-yGAto	/r/videos/comments/qye05j/if_you_are_a_gamer_and_audiophile_please_do/	[ "Its literally just tetris with a bunch of shiny special effects. I wouldnt pay money for this game", "I thought that too, but its more about the music. For me anyways. I think the sound effects are all very cool. Its free on Gamepass if you have it!", "Wanted to hear the audio, instead listened to someone talk. :-/", "Guess your gonna have to play it now!" ]	4	videos	If you are a Gamer and Audiophile please do yourself a favor and play this game. Absolutely beautiful!
https://youtu.be/QPVwAPEJzW8	/r/videos/comments/qye5an/20_foot_python/	[ "Pythons don't have feet.", "I am really tired of the YouTube, tiktok instagram “creators” over exaggeration vocalizing.\n\nP.S. Hey guys welcome back to my comment. Remember to like and subscribe.", "God those two guys with the camera are the most annoying ever.", "I'm not really any expert on keeping snakes or anything but is it really necessary to stress the snake that long? He spent most of the video just poking and prodding the snake.", "I think the only thing you could expect those two to do is shit their britches", "Squealing just means they are not snake people, doesn’t mean they are not very helpful in other crisis situations. /s", "Yes \nSource- slept at Holiday Inn last night.", "He gets bit at 15:30", "Also not an expert, but I was actually wondering the opposite. Did he get bit because he was rushing it for the camera.", "[ Jump to 15:30 @ BIT BY A 20 FOOT PYTHON 🤦‍♂️](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVwAPEJzW8&t=0h15m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: JayPrehistoricPets, Video Popularity: 92.83%, Video Length: [24:03])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@15:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVwAPEJzW8&t=0h15m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "I assume that the resulting video would get posted in /r/donthelpjustfilm.", "Well, I think the guy knows what he is doing. I never heard of snake dying of stress.", "He explained why, the snake is too large and strong for him to handle so he has to get it to exert itself and tire itself out so it won't fight hard so he'll be able to move it out of the box and into its enclosure.", "That being said", "And make it a thumbnail", "What about the bell icon so i can be notified?!", "And don’t forget that bell to alert you when we all scream like little bitches on our next Adsense money grab!", "Him fixing his stupid douchetuber hair pisses me off", "\"Heyyyy X nation! You already know what it is!\"", "EEEEEE quick do a dance for her!", "Thankfully, it looks like he had a legit helper there too.", "I can tell you I'm very happy this is my perspective and not the insufferable camera work from the other guy.", "I flinched HARD on that lunge!", "Why are we antagonizing and yelling at this large snake?", "Watch the video. This one has 20.\nI haven’t watched the video tho", "Someone didn't understand the joke.", "(I think you missed the joke here…)", "He unknowingly damages an egg at 6:55", "I only count 10 feet including the person behind the camera.", "I watched the video now. There are multiple tortoises near the end…each are lending 4 feet! They get the count up too 20!", "[ Jump to 06:55 @ BIT BY A 20 FOOT PYTHON 🤦‍♂️](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVwAPEJzW8&t=0h6m55s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: JayPrehistoricPets, Video Popularity: 92.72%, Video Length: [24:03])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@06:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVwAPEJzW8&t=0h6m50s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "This guy really did post a 20 minute gif", "That is an absolutely gorgeous snake.", "Jumpscare @ 7:23 if that’s your jam.", "What I dont understand is why that kid keeps on covering his mouth.\n\nAs if thats going to protect him.", "\"WAit, Did YoU aCtuALly GeT BIt?\" \n\nNot only are they annoying, but they also ask stupid questions.", "[ Jump to 07:23 @ BIT BY A 20 FOOT PYTHON 🤦‍♂️](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVwAPEJzW8&t=0h7m23s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: JayPrehistoricPets, Video Popularity: 92.72%, Video Length: [24:03])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@07:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVwAPEJzW8&t=0h7m18s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "\\> I never heard of snake dying of stress\n\nI have heard of that. There are people who do snake charmer shows in India. Snakes don't have as much stamina as humans and they can't handle long work days.", "windex on a wound and he never bandages it.. wtf. is he trying to show off for the kids?", ">douchetuber\n\nThank you for this.", "Petition to hit annoying youtubers with foam bats whenever anyone from the general public feels it to be appropriate?", "Thought about making it part of a drinking game.", "I don't know much about keeping or having snakes as \"pets\" but I'm annoyed with everyone in this video. The camera-\"men\" and even the handler are stressing this animal so much, to the point where she finally bites, as a WARNING.\n\nThis seems like the Tiger King, Big-Cats handlers...where they intentionally rile up the animals for reactions.", "Ehh, I was just a different brand of unbearably awkward as a kid.", "Under those circumstances, yeah. But there is a big difference between a snake charmer abusing his animals ( de-fanged snakes, mouths closed with stitches, or big workload).\n\nThis guy has a huge python and look like he cares a lot about her. She is one in a million.\n\nIt's not one of those animals that can die just because it gets spooked.\n\nBut comparing that guy and snake charmer is really a stretch.", "Hi I'm Kenny Rogers and this is jackass!", "Actually, most of the reptile community agrees with you and this this is not well respected because he does this kind of bs and it makes the rest of us look bad", "This guy is well known for this kind of behavior. And he is a shitty owner because of it.", "It’s not bleeding so badly that an immediate bandage is needed. Windex might not be the first choice but it’ll clean the skin off fine. I’ve seen guys superglue cuts back together that were well into muscle fiber- whatever it takes to gets you by until you can take more appropriate action is kind of the rule with first aid.", "Well the fact he had to hold his arm against a paper towel while finishing his demo, as well as the streak of blood running down his arm.. and no windex is not an \"in a pinch\" option. Hell read up on using windex as quoted from a movie.", "I mean sure it was bleeding, but only in a “making a mess” sort of way, not in a way that stopping the bleeding was an absolute priority. Once the job was done I’m sure he went and slapped some gauze on it. \n\nWindex on an open wound probably isn’t the best thing just due to the small amount of ammonia, but a quick spray and wipe off wouldn’t poison him or anything.\n\nI’m just saying- sure, if I’m there with my big fancy trauma kit I’m going to use alcohol wipes and some real bandages but it wasn’t a serious enough problem to be too worried about it.", "Well he did state he wasn't a professional.. but still I feel he was ignorant, and relatively unsafe in general all for the sake of some \"influencers\" to seem cool. It would have taken less that a few minutes to have his assistance maintain the snake, goto a first aid box fix himself up, and return. It felt he wanted to show his toughness in front of the camera. But what ever this point is not worth arguing. Its all based on our own opinions and experiences.", "Someone's Greek", "I watch the ads twice :)", "why was no one holding it down by the head or smth? Its a fucking 20 foot python lmao", "These 'jokes' are the real feat", "omg", "Good to see lion taming is still alive in all its forms. /s", "Honestly other than the youtubers the snake handler was really enjoyable to watch", "almost nothing is a .gif anymore", "In real life", "Well, I have some new nightmare fuel for tonight.", "Thank you...", "That being said", "That thing hat better fucking me called \n Monty.", "I agree! I loved watching this guy. I'm not sure why people need to shit on the kids filming though. We were all young once.", "Looks like you didnt lose it...", "How old is she ?", "You my friend are a masochist.", "never held a snake? try an elaphe guttata it has the size of a small stick and it has a weird force that you can contrast but it is much more than what you would guess. this snake can is many many times stronger than a man in certain leverages. it weight a lot and yet by flexying he can make himself even more heavy", "Who the fuck are you?", "Got em!", "Joe" ]	74	videos	20 foot python
https://youtu.be/Xi3eeSZFfCw?t=539	/r/videos/comments/qyedor/store_left_abandoned_in_1963_tour_everything/	[ "Amazing time capsule! It should be a museum because it captures a very specific era in a wholistic way. Fascinating!", "Have they got any Dapper Dan?", "Whaat he just skipped over the watches completely. First thing I'd look at.", "here's why it's not all dusty and cobwebbed up\n\n\"Roger Paternaude's mother operated the store as a private museum.\"\n\nhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/family-offers-century-old-general-store-to-williams-lake-1.3370113" ]	4	videos	Store Left Abandoned in 1963 Tour - Everything Still Inside
https://youtu.be/8JmxaAKoDQg	/r/videos/comments/qyegvb/in_honor_of_halo_infinite_i_made_a_shitty/	[ "dont", "too much quality. it should be 480p at max, and even that's pushing it.\n\nAlso wrong font on unregistered hypercam 2, but that's not that important", "The original hypercam font is called \"SYSTEM\" but it wouldn't behave properly on DaVinci resolve, so compromises had to be made", "you could've take a picture of the text from google and put it in the corner", "Paralyzer is just chef's kiss. All that's missing is titling the video Ice on Fire and you got a classic montage" ]	5	videos	In honor of halo infinite I made a shitty machinima montage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ISYT6EeUM0&ab_channel=TheTonightShowStarringJimmyFallon	/r/videos/comments/qyeu8b/jimmy_fallon_jack_black_more_than_words/	[ "Amazing wowwww", "Jack Black is a national treasure", "1) Jack Black is the best.\n\n2) This video would be better without Jimmy Fallon.\n\n3) This song has always been so fucking creepy!", "[Neil Young & Jimmy Fallon - Old Man](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gkqby)", "That was really good. I love how true they stayed to the original while still being funny.", "Beautiful. Jimmy Fallon's impression is uncanny.", "Jack Black has an amazing voice. My second favorite national anthem performance (behind Whitney Houston) is his.\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d9l4LMZeNm0", "Two overrated \"stars\". At least Black can sing." ]	8	videos	Jimmy Fallon & Jack Black - More Than Words
https://youtu.be/Uk3n-UQ9KSY?t=28	/r/videos/comments/qyewyy/blind_guitarist_jose_feliciano_gives_a_stunning/	[ "*Malaguena", "It’s actually La Malagueña", "Was it Sting, who was deeply unimpressed by Jose?", "\"You uh been to the Celebrity Room before, with uh other 'clients'?\"\n\n\"I don't think so. It's nice.\"\n\n\"Yeah, well, depends on the artist. You know, Jose Feliciano, you got no complaints.\"", "https://youtu.be/1gZWIE081po", "Is this the Feliz Navidad guy? Had no clue he was blind", "While that is a beautiful instrumental piece, the Chingon version has cajones...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8vFZNXV4i8", "Then again, \"La Malagueña\" is based on Malagueñas/Malagueña - a form of Spanish folk music/flamenco long before \"La Malagueña\" was composed. So both are correct.", "Classic. Time to put it down." ]	9	videos	Blind guitarist Jose Feliciano gives a stunning performance of La Maleguena.
https://youtu.be/Ap9GqyLoWyY	/r/videos/comments/qyf5sf/not_quite_almost_christmas_time_tom_cardy/	[ "Amazing song for this time of year.", "His nails are quite festive.", "Legit though, I still have my plastic Halloween pumpkin bucket collection up.", "I disagree. Day after Thanksgiving should be decoration day.\n\nF black friday and consumerism. Instead make some stuff yourself, and have fun doing so with others for the next few weeks.", "Poor guy, couldn't make a song that's not a banger if he tried", "what a craftsman.", "Tom could literally take any random topic make it a hit.\nWhat a legend also today at the shops… they were playing Xmas music.\nWoohoo it’s officially “not quite, almost Christmas time!”", "So many people rimming this guy, but he's so shit I don't get it.", "Let’s see your work?", "I didn't realise that was a requirement to comment on things. Oops, best not listen to any music, or go see any films. Fuckin' dolt.", "I didn’t realize liking something means rimming the creator. Oops best give me the Guinness World record for rimming. Fucking dolt.", "Do you not understand colloquial metaphors? Goddamn, dude.", "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.", "You sound like the type of person who has a special cup for farting into so you can smell it up close and personal. You might even be the type to do it with a sippy cup, to lock in that flavor. Either way, you seem to really enjoy your own excrement.", "I always forget the rest of the world doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving.", "Quality troll, got people riled up, well played", "I’m kinda glad we didn’t get around to carving our pumpkins so I don’t feel bad about leaving them outside.", "lol. I was decorating my christmas tree when he released this", "You’ve stressed out Santa", "I did. Will put extra milk and cookies." ]	20	videos	Not Quite Almost Christmas Time - Tom Cardy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwglOlD7e0M	/r/videos/comments/qyf9l4/making_lego_car_cross_gaps_brick_experiment/	[ "I watched the whole damn thing, man I’m board", "This is really cool, thanks for sharing!", "I feel like that last one was cheating somehow.", "But the end result is a specialized vehicle that does nothing else. You should build a gap spanning crane that picks up the car and drops it across the span…", "This is way cool!", "Seemed like a jump in logic. As if he just put wings on it and made it fly." ]	6	videos	Making Lego Car CROSS Gaps - Brick Experiment Channel
https://hiphopnowtv.com/they-got-caught-tryna-steal-from-louis-vuitton/	/r/videos/comments/qyfdd8/they_got_caught_tryna_steal_from_louis_vuitton/	[ "I love the last cop running there a bit behind others and smashing the rear window so he also gets to smash something.", "I was trying to find white people running into the store.\n\nSurely some did.\n\nI literally saw two white people standing outside not getting involved.\n\nits totally legal to describe and report the number of going in and stealing right ?\n\nIm honestly just curious what the numbers are, because everyone keeps telling me America is only 15 percent black people. so im totally confused as to why this video looks like 80 percent black.\n\nIt honestly has nothing to do with race.\n\nits the culture.", "Wtf is this drivel supposed to convey?", "Want to say something racist but probably lost their train of thought", "It’s some racist dog whistle bullshit for sure.", "They do it for the culture.\nThey don't think it be like it is, but it do.", "It's not dog whistle", "Why not, it's saying something racist and trying to throw in stats. That \"stat\" is a silent whistle to bring out more racists to agree. You may think it's too on the nose to be a dog whistle, which may have some merit." ]	9	videos	They got Caught tryna steal from Louis Vuitton
https://youtu.be/qqlJ50zDgeA	/r/videos/comments/qyfs8d/the_ancient_computer_that_simply_shouldnt_exist/	[ "Amazing", "I love this", "If anyone is interested any further a guy names Chris has been attempting to rebuild this mechanism for the last 4 odd years:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE&t=18s", "This is awesome", "Very cool I remember a long time ago when people on the internet were saying it was from a UFO. Glad to see we have unraveled its secrets.", "With time, and if we are lucky, we will find out that we were far more advanced technologically speaking in the past then we think we were. Just recently we found structures older than the 12,000 year old previous oldest structures. \n\nProblem is that we only find bits and piece here and there. Plus and quite sadly, most of it is likely lost to time. Or buried. Or we have built over them. Like say London, or Rome, or Damascus. Just to name a few.", "Astonishing!", "Maybe it’s an Alethiometer!", "From the thumbnail I thought it was a case fan for a desktop!", "This is nothing close to a computer.", "I feel like there’s often a lot of arrogance from people, like many people seems to think the further we go the more similar to monkey we were and thus couldn’t have been able to make anything technologically advanced. The thing is between now and antiquity for example it’s just not a long time ago when we’re speaking about evolution so it’s not like people back then wouldn’t have been able to invent amazing things. Like you said so much is lost in time, we don’t like to think about our own mortality or demise, but maybe 2000 years from now internet won’t exist anymore and people will try to figure out what it was from writings they found in some box somewhere.", "It's true that evolutionarily we are essentially the same as we were 12000 years ago. That's really not the issue, though. Two things make modern humans radically different from humans 12000 years ago (or 1000 years ago or even 200 years ago): sheer numbers and the accumulation and dissemination of knowledge and information. Consider the case of 200 years ago: how many people understood Newton's mechanics? Maybe 10,000? How many do know? Maybe 10,000,000? Consider 100 years ago. How many people understood general relativity? Maybe 1000? How many today? Maybe 1,000,000? The point is that there are far more people with far more knowledge today than ever before and that keeps increasing. Sheer numbers mean new revolutionary ideas simply become more likely.", "Oh definitely, I’m just saying we’re underestimating not that they had the same level of knowledge we achieved today. There’s still things they discovered/created that are now lost through time, but still not everything has been lost. We’re way more people than before and there’s a lot more sharing throughout the whole world than there was before too so we definitely have things going for us now, I didn’t mean to compare 10000 years ago to now in term of technical abilities.", "Learned about this when I visited the Parthenon in Nashville, TN. Very cool!!", "This was amazing, can't believe I've never heard of this object before.", "This sounds like the plot for the next National Treasure movie", "When we finally mass kill ourselves and it takes a thousand years to rebuild. The next civilization probably won't find any thousand-year-old IKEA sets anywhere much less any iPhones...", "Definitely a piece of the Broken God", "Jesus, why all the downvotes? I think this is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.", "Look up the term ‘computer’. ‘Performing mathematical calculations’. Yeah, this is exactly, by definition, a computer.", "Another thing I think people forget is, when all you have is a few tools and methods, you can get really fucking good with them and apply them in all kinds of ways somebody who has never had to do those things would think of. eg. it was long thought that the pyramids or stonehenge had to be made by massive amounts of laborers but lately some simple mechanics have been shown to make it doable by smaller groups of people, all with basic tools they would have had access to and experience with.", "To be fair, it does look a little… dusty.", "What year do they think this device is from?", "Yeah that’s a good point", "Can it run Doom?", "Doubtful, we certainly would find evidence of such a society. Even after a large amount of time, I can think of several things that would leave traces: the waste generated by them, traces of whatever means they used to supply energy, sewers and other large scale infrastructure, etc.", "Another shoutout here for Clickspring. Simply some of the most professionally edited and awesome DIY videos on youtube. My only complaint is that there's not more lol", "Plate tectonics will take care of even that if given enough time.", "Can you link to info about the structures please? I Googled but could only find Göbekli Tepe at 10000 years old", "There's no evidence for this, you're just speculating", "Enough to eradicate all evidence? Think about everything we know about dinosaurs, for example.", "There are probably many civilizations, for 10s of thousands of years nearly to the level of the 1700s... but never has the entire globe been educated like today. Never once in history have past civilizations been to the moon.", "I believe it is the only device in existence that runs Crysis on ultra at a decent framerate.", "Do we have any fossil records that date back pre Pangea?", "Yeah, no... we're leaving a shit ton of traces on earth from our existence, and they're unmistakable. Things like analyzing the rings of trees, tubes of antarctic that can show us things from millions of years ago, the layers of earth that have slowly deposited throughout the entire of Earth's lifespan, and whatever the fuck else is there, they all show the history of Earth.\n\nWe have many ways of looking back, and there are zero traces of anything as advanced as our civilization ever existed. Pollution, lead in gasoline, man-made alterations of landscape, the atomic age making everything slightly radioactive, all these things simply didn't ever happen during the unwritten history period of mankind.", "Yes. The dinosaurs haven't been dead long enough to be transported below the crust. Yet.", "Unless you're claiming that this supposed \"advanced society\" could fit inside a single ship, we'd have found plenty of fossil records by now, but we haven't, not a single one.", "This mechanism involved several generations of knowledge and understanding to make. To say that they constructed it to hide treasure is a slap in the face to the creator.", "Google says the oldest fossils found are some 3 to 4 billion years old.", "My point is though that we can find evidence of life with the smallest of hints, imagine the traces that will be left behind by a society of our complexity.", "After watching Threads, which is exactly about humanity trying to rebuild after a nuclear war, it really got me thinking that after a few generations, an iPhone would potentially be as alien to us as this device. \n\nI haven't fact checked this (I know, I know) but I was reading a comment, I think on reddit, that mentioned that if we were to fall into a new dark age or something equivalent then it may not actually be possible for us to get back to our current technological level. Reasons being that as we've mined for rare materials that we use in our technology today, it has become more and more difficult to mine for them due to scarcity, not knowing where deposits are and having to dig deeper which takes more advanced machines and tech. Of course it depends on the scale of the event that screws us over. I find it really interesting to think that man made items and structures that survived, once unusable in our short term future, could easily become urban legend and myth because when you're coming out of an apocalyptic stone age, how few people really are there going to be and what skills will they have of use? There's no point writing down about the technology behind an oled display when you need to farm food. Plus it'd make a pretty cool book series imo.", "You don't need to dig to know if there's something interesting over there. Sufficiently advanced civilizations would leave more evidence than just wreckage that disappears with time.", "We can port it", "Plastic and hydrocarbons don’t erode away in 10-20k years.", "Next, Bethesda will come out with Skyrim for this system", "Yes, hence \"my theory\"", "I always wondered why they think this is a computer and not just an ornate ship’s wheel. It was found with a ship.", "Redditors see some basic gear engineering and suddenly believe in past advanced civilizations and shit.", "You said that all the evidence in the video supports your claim, which it doesn't. There's no evidence at all for your claims.", "Was lucky enough to see this in person at the National Archaeological Museum in Athens. \n\nI wonder if there are other devices like this that remain lost. Surely this was not the first and last?", "Chris is a madman!", "The last time this idea in a reddit thread people pointed out that glass is a great counter example. Glass lasts much longer than many other materials and is pretty recognizable. If there had been an advanced but forgotten civilization we should expect to find glass that they left behind.", "we dont even know what is at the bottom of the ocean right now, living. let alone passed.", "The other big thing is technology builds on other technology. Can’t generate and transmit electricity without wire/cable. Can’t make that wire without some dies or minimal levels of industrial capacity. Technology sort of snowballs and combines/enhances existing technology to become something new.", "It sounds interesting, but seems to be considering all the materials we've mined up as being destroyed, which in the case of hydrocarbons(oil, natgas, coal) is true, other materials(iron, steel, copper, aluminum) would be far easier to \"harvest\" from the ruins of our civilization. So maybe the new civilization would need to depend more on renewable plant sources of fuels like wood, charcoal and ethanol, but I don't think it would be impossible for them to progress again.", "\n> Plus it'd make a pretty cool book series imo.\n\nI thought that too, that would be an interesting sub genre.", "Where's your O5 clearance? You asking to be D-Class, spilling truths like that on the open web.", "For sure. I wouldn't know what the effect of nukes would be on the steel and whatnot but I'm sure that it would be possible. I think the post was looking more at the types of precious metals that we use in tech, although as I said, I didn't really look into it to see how true it was.", "Well that we know of in our current understanding of things today that is", "If it’s underwater it may be hard to discover", "Legitimately my first thought lol", "It has taken longer then the OG clock project because Chris in trying to recreate the Antikythera Mechanism has discovered evidence that the [calendar ring is a 354 day lunar calendar not a solar calendar as previously thought](https://bhi.co.uk/antikytheramechanism/). That lead to him and a team to write a research paper", "A ship's wheel?? Have you seen its size?? What is it, a ship for ants?", "Cristians destroyed the greek civilization, that is why items like this is very hard to find.", "A lot of amazing science went into this. They assembled a whole imaging system around it. It took generations of phds all adding their parts and waiting for technology to advance.", "If it's as good as the first one I wouldn't mind that one bit. It's one of my favourite treasure hunting movies.", "*Lilliputian theory intensifies", "Did you watch the video? It literally comes with an instruction manual that describes how it worked.", "Clickspring is such great channel and I am amazed at watching him build anything", "It's got the beta of Half Life 3 on its hard drive, that's why they're trying to figure out how it works.", "Our rubbish dump would/will-be basically gold mines for such a civilization.\n\nThe elements we have mined didn't disappear, they've just been used to make things.\n\nSeparating them out of scrap would be annoying (which is why we don't recycle as much as we should), but given scarcity of such things such a civilization would put in the effort to do so.", "Betty White and Keith Richards will be able to give them a full account of what happened.", "I thought we covered them up when full? So just the ones we didn't fill would be easily findable?", "Its a calculator rather than a computer though.", "Are all mines predicated on looking for materials visible from the surface?\n\nIf not, then it probably wont be a problem.", "I don't doubt that there have been a lot of ingenious inventions over time that were lost, but it seems unlikely that there's much that could've been widely adopted that could come remotely close to the Antikythera mechanism that we have no evidence of. The Greeks also had some conception of [steam power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archytas), but clearly they didn't understand fully the implications or have the infrastructure to utilize it. Any technology that did spring up that was potentially revolutionary as we know it now was likely only ever little more than a novelty to them.", "Define decent.", "A solid 22fps locked.", "I meant the landfills that you mentioned.", "according to ancient astronauts theories...", "I know you did...", "Also, 15,000 years ago nobody could earn a living studying physics. To be successful you had to hunt or gather, kill things. So although we may have had the same brain power back then, we had to focus on basic survival.", "Ahhh...how subtle.", "But it doesn’t have any RGB strips, so how can we be sure?", "What I was getting at is 1000 years from now our daily use items that show how we lived and even our highest tech items will not remain. It will all rot away.. The things that might remain will be typically low-tech stuff like basic tools and equipment. Probably mechanical stuff at best but certainly not high-tech things with circuit boards or even our basic furniture much less our homes.\n\nIn fact we today would probably know more about how ancient Egyptians lived than people in 1000 years would know how we lived assuming there are no historical data to tell them like if that data was lost. We have no stone tablets that we write our history on.. What we have and use today will not last.. Reddit, Facebook, Youtube will never be remembered like the stone writings on a wall were.\n\nWe already lose history today because of old tech storage.. What we have now will never last 1000 years people will have no clue about us any more than we really know about the ancient Egyptians today,.", "We will not be here in 200 years", "Oh I agree. It just reminded me of how quickly so much of our world could become obsolete, unrecognisable and downright baffling in certain circumstances.", "More than likely the opposite I'd imagine as technology doesn't \"spring up\". There's years and years of smaller developments that lead to devices like this. Then you needs groups of people to learn and train in them, build them, etc.", "Okay, but that could've happened and been forgotten within one city-state. It's probably not going to be one person in a cave with a box of scraps building something of this complexity, but that doesn't mean it's going to be anything like ubiquitous. Especially when the use that we do know of was somewhat niche. They, as far as we know, didn't bother figuring out or spreading a more practical application for this.", "You're right. Can't rule out the existence of unicorns either. They \"could\" be down there. How do we know for sure?", "I’ll take that bet!", "You and me certainly not, but for the rest we don’t know.", "I didnt say anything. Im not OP, OP explicitly said my theory.\n\nOP interprets the details in the video to support his claim. He is speculating he never claimed he wasnt.", "It really sucks how civilizations and people who came about after these discoveries pretty much just shoved them under the rug to be forgotten. \nWe would be literally 1000 times more advanced as a society if people just learned how to get along back then lol, and if leaders were interested in anything but conquering \n\nI guess history repeats itself", "I loved that when I learned it. Guy's like \"oops, I accidentally made a scientific discovery. Better write it down\".", "\"A computer is a machine that can be programmed to carry out sequences of arithmetic or logical operations automatically\" From Wiki. \n\nSo its a computer.", "Lol", "Or destroyed. Can’t forget destroyed! We love destroying things", "Can it be programmed though?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eUibFQKJqI", "except you cant program it; what it does is by mechanical design and cant be changed. \n\nso, its a calculator.", "It can be programmed, by changing the gears or user input. Its an Analogue computer.", "To be fair, we wouldn't see precision gears reinvented until 1,000 years later. So, the ancient Greeks were* far more advanced than previously thought.", "You can see this exact device in the National Archeological Museum in Athens. While the Greeks are proud of it, they do acknowledge that there are mentions of similar devices (an orrery) in literature.\n\nIt may be that these especially complex devices were exceptionally rare for the time, and the skill required to construct them difficult to obtain.", "A distinction without a difference.", "I hate when science discovers something I find cool but couldn't for the life of me pronounce.", "It's more so that metal working technology had not evolved to a point where mass production of useful applications was possible. For steam specifically, you need high strength metal to contain the pressure of expanding gases for the technology to be truly useful. Until the late 1700s there just wasn't the understanding or technology to make metal containers like that. In fact, a lot of the lack of adoption of ancient advanced technologies can be attributed to difficulty of building or lack of quality metallurgy.", "Full price, of course.", "Dya reckon it could make sense for parent commenter to bring mines into the focus of the conversation again?", "I think you've skipped a few checks before concluding \"it's entirely possible\", or you are using that word with a lot of liberty and / or blur around the edges.", "> waiting \n\nMaking technology advance, as well?", "Greek here, it’s antikithira, all with an i sound like in click. 😊", "On the internet, it is impossible to come to a mutually agreed definition in an otherwise adversarial conversation.", ".... So are you though.", "Clearly the Brotherhood of Steel feels differently.", "Gocks on their way to destroy it asap", "Oh shit.", "That is a theory in the realm of academia or science. Theory has many definitions of which, your definition is not even the most common use.\n\nhttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory\n\nhttps://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/theory#:~:text=1%5Bcountable%2C%20uncountable%5D%20a,Topic%20Collocations", "Ehh not really. Most of the materials in our technology axtuslly take thousands of years to decompose, if not hundreds of thousands", "Im sorry what part of this thread has anything at all to do with academia or science? Someone found an archaeological dig, and people are coming up with ideas for why they may have been used. This the actual correct use of theory.\n\nI really do want to know, we arent talking Pokemon or astrology so then what the hell are we talking about, in your mind?", "Hey everyone! Look at darrendewey over here! Knows more about a 2000 year old device than even the people that study it!", "It’s both. He said it an awfully lot but he’s right. It is astonishing.", "You realise your not even responding to the OP right? I didnt make the theory claims.\n\nI am simply pointing out that people are wrong to downvote OP because they think he misused theory in this context. You can speculate on ancient civilizations and why they may have done things and call it a theory.", "How’s plato doing", "Doing well, dude, he sends his regards 🤪", "You watch too much history channel conspiracy episodes", "Yeah it's funny being a Clickspring fan, the clock took just under 2 years to complete but the Antikythera mechanism is approaching it's 5th year. I love his videos but as a fan it can be hard to follow what exactly he's making when there's 6 month plus long gaps between episodes.", "Fuck this title. Saying this \"shouldn't exist\" is like saying the pyramids must have been built by aliens because must have been a lot of work to build them. The one guy really annoyed me when one minute he was like \"we had to rethink everything we know about technology\" (what the fuck does that even mean) and then the next he said there were other devices like it and it wasn't unique. We've known for a long time the greeks had crazy clockwork contraptions some even steam powered. As cool as this contraption is, the fake hype they are trying to build around it is too much.", "When did I claim to know more about the mechanism than the people studying it?\n\nAre you saying that Findmoregains is studying it?\n\nWhy the childish response? Is it because I took your statement that it was a perfectly reasonable hypothesis and presented a rebuttal? Maybe it's because you're being downvoted and can't handle it? Maybe it is because you're a child?", "I can't stop thinking about where humanity could be today if the Greeks had continued to progress technologically. Would they have developed modern economics? Modern medicine? Would Christianity even exist? Could they have stopped the Black Plague? Would the Roman empire overtaken Greece? So many questions.", "Would you give up your power to help someone else right now. Like giving 2k to make someone less poor. This is the problem with that thinking, power is hard to give up or not take.", "Maybe not a city state. I mean, the invention, use and loss of something as strategically valued as say, Greek Fire disproves your notion. \n\nThe Byzantines where not your small, mom and pap's Empire. \n\n https://www.worldhistory.org/Greek_Fire/", "Can it run Crysis?", "Y'all about to be [REDACTED] right in your [REDACTED].", "What if it's a cold crypto wallet.", "Clockworks from the Middle Ages were definitely not evidence of an industrial process.", "It's crazy to think humans have held knowledge of complex math and architecture multiply times throughout history.", "You mean Eastern Rome did?", "It's very interesting not only because it was so advanced for that time, but also because we don't have documentation of such mechanisms even though ancient Greeks wrote about everything. Maybe if the Great Library of Alexandria wasn't burned we'd know much more about this technology.", "Thats cool.\n\nHate the titel tho... \"..that simply shouldn’t exist\"... What you mean? It does exist.\n\nIts stupid as the \"bumblebees cant fly\"... Well they do, so just stop with the stupid phrasing.", "Idk. Ask the YouTuber who posted it with that title.", "https://youtu.be/\\_6cXLQt4fEk?t=507", "Sure. I got confused. Long night. I guess that would make sense. Currently in the US, Approximately 66% of coal and 97% of non-fuel minerals are extracted through surface mining methods. I know that is far from representative globally but I couldn't find the figures with a quick Google. If that figure is even somewhat reflective of the world at large, then mining still might present issues a long time down the line. \n\nExcluding how much more difficult it would be to even get back to an agrarian society, let alone a post nuclear holocaust industrial revolution pt 2, you're then looking at a lot of places where resources for fuel have already been used, as the other poster said. We almost certainly wouldn't have any of the information that we currently have about stockpiles of fuel resources. Hell knows what the earth's climate would be and if it could sustain damage from additional fossil fuel production (bearing in mind that we're saying that somehow we manage to survive so it can't be that bad). I imagine fuel mining would be a target for nuclear weapons as well as precious metal mining. If there's even a chance the other side survives, you want to cut their resources off. So maybe. At the longest of stretches, maybe we can reach a comparable level of civilisation. It'd be playing the great filter on extreme difficulty. And a lot of those resources would be blown up. I mean, that's the least of our concerns if it happens.", "It was designed to prove flat earth", "its*", "\"This video isn't available anymore\"\n\nRekt.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSUMBBFjxrY", "That video is not available in your country.", "I want to say Dr. Bright is not allowed to leak information but there's so many of them so who can say for sure.", "The dudes saying we never expected them to have as sofisticated technology as this. When he said more technology must exist he's hypothesizing because if we found this device, maybe there would be more. You just seem like a grumpy goose.", "Saint Justinian I the Great, [was the one who forced everyone in the Eastern Roman Empire to become ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I#Authoritarian_rule)christians, after he ordered the army to kill [30000 of his political adversaries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I#Nika_riots) (who could oppose him and the church, after that slaughter). If you think that the christian church had nothing to do with that, then I have nothing more to say." ]	153	videos	The ancient computer that simply shouldn’t exist
https://youtu.be/bHIhgxav9LY	/r/videos/comments/qyfxaq/the_big_misconception_about_electricity/	[ "So what does this mean if we have a bunch of different circuits next to and criss-crossing each other, but with none of the wires touching. Would the fields interfere with each other?", "Huh?", "Absolutely, but the distances the energy fields extend in this video are far exaggerated. \n\nThis is why most wires are insulated and why power lines are suspended in the air, because even the ground can interfere with the electric fields. \n\nIn reality, the fields are extending away from the circuits in distances of nanometers - millimeters, depending on the current in the circuit. This is why the small gaps in PCB circuits are enough to shield from most interference, but it's certainly something that has to be considered when designing electrical systems.", ">Theoretical physics prof here.\n\nI doubt that", "Mind if I ask what this means? \"the steady-state solution holds at the time of switching on the battery, which of course would violate causality\"", "Sure, you get some energy transfer through the air. But air is a serious resistor. The flux lines that go through the copper have the least resistance and that's where the vast amount of the wattage will go.\n\nEdit: so a quick thought experiment to understand why the video might be misleading, there's a simple tool that's capable of detecting the direction of flux lines in magnetic fields: a compass. If you place a compass between the battery and the light bulb, and then rotate the orientation of the setup, does the compass needle follow the circuit's magnetic field rotation, or does it continue pointing at the Earth's north pole?", "Yes. It's a problem in digital circuitry that the smaller microprocessors get, the higher chance of lines inducing current in each other. FWIW, this is how radio works, one electrical circuit (at the station) is inducing a current in another circuit (your receiver).\n\nEdit: when I said radio \"induces current\", I was grossly oversimplifying and am technically wrong (otherwise your radio, your teeth, your chainlink fence, would all play music even without having a battery in them). Editing for posterity.", "Yeah I just watched it and I'm even more confused than before", ">\"This is why today most powerlines are suspended high up\"\n\nNo, it's because it's a much cheaper, safer, and more maintainable method of electricity transmission compared to buried cables.", "Lets say you have 2 switches and 2 lightbulbs on different sets of wires, set up like the question in the video. And you dont know witch switch belongs to witch light bulb.\n\nWill you then be able to tell in \"1/c seconds\" which switch is connected with which lightbulb?\n\nI feel like the answer should definitely be no, but I dont know. If it it isn't yes, then I feel like this video is pretty misleading.\n\nEdit: Thinking about it some more, I realize that it is no way you could know which wire is connected with what bulb. Because, if you had someone sitting out in space changing the wires, then that person could send signals faster than the speed of light back to the lightbulbs. \nThe answer HAS to be 1 second. Although I'm sure you get some tiny effect on both bulbs before that by a change in the em field. But they wouldn't acutally light up.", "Uh yea, and that's all because of what he described.", "Yeah I feel like the argument is better described in that electricity will take \"all\" paths from A to B, in inverse proportion to resistance. So the overwhelming majority will follow the wires and a miniscule amount will take other routes, e.g. the air. So in his lightbulb circuit with a light-second of wire, technically a tiny current hits the bulb at 1/c seconds from closing the switch, but not enough to actually light any real-world bulb. Or probably even measure with any real-world equipment.", "Yea this video while technically factual is going to mislead and confuse the hell out if the average person", "Theoretically a physics prof.", "Enough air transfer that a fluorescent bulb will light up twenty feet from a tower.", "That's why they specified their imaginary setup as having no resistance.", "The power coming into your home isn't coming from electrons vibrating in the wires, but moving electromagnetic fields on/around the wires. The electrons are moving, yes, but that is secondary to the fields as far as power is concerned. This is in contrast to something like a battery, where you have ions physically moving inside a medium, transferring charge. Electricity is more like waves on top of water instead of water in a pipe.", "How far away would the “magic” electricity travel? If the battery and lightbulb are 1m apart like the video, it’s 1/c. But if you put the battery and the lightbulb a kilometer apart is it 1km/c? 10000km/c? Is there a limit or is this saying that all electricity sources radiate out fields infinitely?", "Baleted because I missed that and my reply doesn't add to the discussion, thanks.", "You can imagine the wire close to the battery as an antenna, just like a radio transmitter or cell tower and the wire near the lightbulb as a receiver like your car radio or your cell phone. The energy dissipates in this case inversely proportional (I believe 1/distance or 1/distance^2) to the distance it travels, so at a far distance. As the light bulb is brought far away from the battery it dim since less power is picked up by the wire near the light bulb itself.", "so magic?", "The fields do not magically poof into existence at the instant you switch on the switch.It takes time for them to appear. \nThe steady state is the state with the switch on for some time,thus stable(not changing).", "Hypothetically at most.", "Anyone know what the actual answer is? I thought 1 second because the power doesn't need to make it all the way around to turn the light bulb on, right? Just to the light bulb?", "The energy the light bulb receives at 1/c time will be just a very weak blip. Since his light bulb is magical and will \"turn on when it experiences any current\" this is enough to turn it on, but only momentarily. In reality this is basically a radio, and the energy received is super tiny. I think OP is saying this is the transient response, but the video is claiming this is the same as the steady state response.\n\nThe steady state response is after 1s, when the main source of energy arrives through the wires.\n\nTechnically with this magic light bulb, it would be turning on every time there's a heartbeat.", "Would be easy to test and cost about $50k. \n\nhttps://www.l-com.com/d-sub-25-pair-26-awg-bulk-cable-500-ft-spool\n\nConnect the pairs together to make 1 long string. Would only need 24 spools to have 300,000 ft of cable that the electrons would have to travel. Once setup you would be able to setup a high speed camera to accurately time how long it takes for the bulb to turn on. For this size wire, an old school Christmas bulb would be enough.", "What?", "\"Bulb\" infers incandescent (tungsten filament). The initial current is very large (10 times the quiescent current) and heats up the element which increases the resistance resulting in a decrease in current. This all happens in microseconds", "The diagram he showed can lead to some very misleading conclusions.", "You're both confused.", "Can you explain something about the video to me? I understand that there's a transient phenomenon and a steady state phenomenon, but I don't understand the transient phenomenon. If the transient phenomenon occurs before the electricity even flows all the way through the wire, then what purpose do the wires even serve? What does it mean to turn on a switch if there's no wires for electricity to flow through when you turn on the switch? Would the same phenomenon occur if you just placed a battery near a bulb, with no wires at all?", "I generally like veritasium but this video is a mess concept wise. Instead of the weird question with 300,000 m wire that relies on wayy too many assumptions and simplifications to work (e.g. real world conductors have very low resistance, but it adds up with length, transient effect of parasitic capacitance/inductance would cause massive delays).\n\nWhat he instead of should have done was frame it as a difference between DC and AC and ask why would AC still power things if electrons are going backwards every half cycle. Maybe the long 300,000 m wire could come it at the end as a fun quirky example. \n\nEdit: That electric field and magnetic field diagram of the square circuit by themselves are honestly probably pretty confusing to someone with small existing understanding. If he was going to talk about how it's the electric and magnetic fields that transfer energy, capacitors and inductors warrent discussions. After all the whole things about transmission line design factors around mitigating the creation of untested capacitance/inductance within the transmission line.", "This is also one of the challenges that Semiconductor foundries and research corporations deal with. When you deal with passing current through transistors that are in the magnitude of nanometers, then they start also interacting with each other and causing interference with each other.\n\nThere is the physical dimensions challenge of making even smaller components, sure, but there is definitely the conversation about how to properly scale these fields to not affect a processor's operation.", "I mean what do I know, but this seems like a pretty disingenuous way to portray this. The bulk of the field density is still localized to (and immediately around) the wire, yeah it'll technically feel the effects of the energy starting to flow through the field immediately, but the bulk of the field still has to propagate along the wire. He's intentionally trying to make this come off as a sort of quantum entanglement, and frankly with all the quantum woo that already exists he should know better.\n\nHe knows what he's doing too. He has a fallback of \"oh, but there's still SOME flux immediately, I'm just saying the field is what's really important\" but that's not what he's trying to make you think, he wants you to think the bulb turns on instantly. It won't.\n\nThought experiment:\nSet this giant 600k km resistanceless wire loop up, turn it on. Now imagine the wire is infinitely stretchy, and make the loop longer. What happens if the end of the loop stretches out to infinity? The light still turns on immediately I guess right? because all that matters is the distance from source to load. So what happens to the end of the loop doesn't matter, why not just cut it? Wires don't actually mean anything I guess, why not just imagine there are wires and stuff will just turn on.\n\nTL;DR, there's a difference between the fields energy density falloff axially and radially in/around a conductor, and he's trying to confuse people into thinking they are the same thing.\n\nEdit: I just want to clarify something. He does specifically ask \"how long would the bulb take to light up\" so he is not asking how long before it feels SOME EM field. Additionally, there is also some aspect I didn't mention regarding current induction in parallel wires, but I promise you that would not be enough to light up anything with any kind of reasonable power source and a traditional light bulb from 1m away. Florescent bulbs might be a different story, but given that he didn't mention the induction or florescent bulbs I'm sticking with my original take. Expect florescent bulbs in his \"go out to the desert and string up some powerlines\" test that will inevitably get 20 million views.", "I'm reporting this video for misinformation. Now I'm going to have all these infinite energy machine videos polluting my feed again. \n\n\nEdit: Fuck it, might as well report this to YouTube as well.", "It makes me wonder more about microprocessors.", "I don't wanna shamelessly plug a video I made since I'm not really a content creator, but I made a video to explain it a bit more:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRkaRusln2w\n\n> If the transient phenomenon occurs before the electricity even flows all the way through the wire, then what purpose do the wires even serve?\n\nThe transient response happens with any moving or changing electric charge. It's just that through the air the effect is very small. We need the wires to transmit the bulk of the power.\n\n > What does it mean to turn on a switch if there's no wires for electricity to flow through when you turn on the switch?\n\nElectricity does flow through the switch, and the change in electric potential in the wires after the switch is closed is what causes the initial burst in radio waves.\n\n> Would the same phenomenon occur if you just placed a battery near a bulb, with no wires at all?\n\nYes, by his definition of the light bulb it would assuming you have a wire at a different potential then suddenly connect that wire to the battery. The only difference is the steady state response, as in if the battery is not connected then 1s later the light bulb will not be continuously on.\n\nBut note that if you start turning on the switch on/off, or replace the battery with an AC signal, then his lightbulb will be \"continuously\" on (or at least to human perception, it will oscillate in brightness at the frequency of the AC wave.", "2 * distance to bulb/c because the light has to travel back to you for you to know", "Surely something is wrong here. As in, it allows a faster than light communication hack and so something must be wrong.\n\nSuppose, just to make it clearer, you were to extend the thought experiment so that instead of the wires being 1 light second from centre to end points they are 1 light hour from mid point to left most point.\n\nNow we know that the circuit must be closed for the switch to turn on the light. If we just had two paralel unconnected wires then nothing would happen when the switch it toggled. This is true whether the wires extent 10m from left to right or 1 light hour from left to right. \n\nSo somehow the lightbulb knows instantaneously that the circuit is complete the moment the switch is flicked.\n\nIf that this the case, then you can whack Alice at the far leftmost point of the circuit, with a circuit breaker, and she can send binary signals faster than light to Bob who is in the middle with the switch testing instantaneously the integrity of the whole circuit and thereby receiving Alice's on-off signals.\n\nSo..something is not right surely.", "The \"transient phenomenon\" does not occur \"before electricity even flows\". The transient \"transient phenomenon\" is the building of the electric and magnetic fields. That phenomenon will, I believe, last for the length of time it takes light to travel between the battery and the bulb at which point the fields will be in their steady-state and the bulb will be receiving the full current. The wires serve to lower resistance between the battery and the bulb. In his thought experiment the wires have no resistance. I believe the same phenomenon would occur with no wires at all - with the caveat that the battery was much more powerful and the battery and bulb were connected by air that was surrounded by something with much higher resistance than air. But I don't know shit so, this could all be wrong.", "Why can’t I just set my light bulb next to the outlet and have it turn on?", "I bet you 100 Canadian cents that a light bulb in a faraday cage separate from it's source will still light up.", "I don't like it.\n\nThe energy is, in the end, conducted by the electron and electron holes interacting with each other. Each tiny movement induces an electromagnetic field and leads to a tiny inequality in charge at the spot the carrier used to reside. The other carriers are elecromagnetically linked INSIDE THE WIRE and will push and pull each other, like ripples in a wave pool. Yes, not insulating correctly will lead to interference, but the claim that everything happens around the wire is just wtf. Insulate the wire perfectly and NOTHING happens around the wire.", "I've seen the fluorescent bulb in a microwave thing before. But an 1100 watt microwave is not a very efficient way to power a light bulb that can be run on 10 watts from the mains.", "Yeah, the fields are part of the transmission and a faraday cage would definitely cause some resistance, but it definitely wouldn't stop the bulb from lighting up. It's pretty disingenuous, the electron movement and the fields are one and the same; and it's the electron movement that activates the fields, not visa versa.", "Factual? You're giving it too much credit. The answer to the question he asks at the beginning is not 1/c. Under even the most simple yet reasonable assumptions, the bulb won't light up completely at 1/c and he fails to clarify a number of things.\n\nAnd then there's the entirely scammy, abusive nature of the video and channel. He asks you to put your answer in the comments before watching the video, which he claims is so that you can't say you had the right answer after the reveal, but I think it's a way to increase engagement to look good to the algorithm. I also think the way he presents the topic and failure to clarify has the same goal, to get people talking in the comments. One of the most effective ways to get engagement is to post something controversial.", "This is what I was thinking also the answer must be >= 1 second or the light bulb is getting information faster than the speed of light.", "I agree, it sounds fishy. In fact, imagine there were 2 of these next to each other, where either 1 or the other would be the path...and it completely depends on a switch at the end of the loop arbitrarily far away. Now duplicate this in reverse..and all of a sudden you have instantaneous communication between 2 arbitrarily far away points. \n\n\nNow, you could say that there is some inducted current occurring just through normal changing magnetic fields, so 1 wire with current ramping up causes current in the nearby wire to start to ramp up to an extent, but this will be negligible compared to the intended lightbulb lighting current (assuming perfect conducting wire..though then you get locked flux lines and that stuff...) \n\n\nbut anyway, yea sounds fishy", "The only thing that confused me was the FTL implications. Makes no sense to me.", "Like... in a microwave?", "I actually found the super long wire question intriguing and it was the main reason I stuck around to watch the video. I found the little diagram super cool and informative as well. \n\nEveryone learns differently!", "You seem intelligent but don't lie about your background.\n\nNo physics prof willingly calls themselves a theoretical physics prof\r. There is no class that teachers \"theoretical physics\" and there is no researcher that has studied \"theoretical physics\", rather they might say they are a string theory expert or something like that.\n\nJust the confusion between what the word \"theory\" means in physics vs vernacular has caused so many headaches for any teacher.", "I know this sounds crazy, and I don't claim to really understand the video, but isn't it possible that somehow the connectivity of the wire has been \"transmitted\" ahead of time somehow, such that once the switch is flipped, information/energy only needs to travel from the battery to the switch to the light? If that were (somehow) the case, a switch 1 light hour away would be functionally different than a switch right next to the battery.", "yes this is a valid (as far as just thoughts go) way to go about answering how the lightbulb would go on without breaking causality. The issue is that with regards to electricity, when you don't have current actively flowing, the only way information can travel is in the form of fluctuations of field. The switch arbitrarily far away can be just 2 ends of a wire arbitrarily close together with some idealized insulator between them. I'm hand waving hard here, but my point is that in this idealized scenario, there'd be no discernable difference at the switch/bulb end between an open and close super small switch arbitrarily far away....in other words, the fields that would be formed in the wire, would be there with or without the arbitrarily small gap....but current won't flow across the thin insulator. Since we know current won't flow, and we treat the requirement for the lightbulb to turn on to be actual current flowing through it at a steady rate, then the only way it's turning on as in the video is if the far switch state is communicate faster than the speed of light to the center. \n\n\n(again, this is not referring to the initial negligible induced current blip, which should not be considered to turn on the lightbulb in the actual spirit of the question). \n\n\nand to play the other side...if something like that is a valid source of lightbulb turning on, then random electron motion that occasionally provides any semblance of an imbalance will also turn on the lightbulb... :)", "The light is 1 meter from the source. The electromagnetic field excitations only have to travel that far to reach the light and the field is at least somewhat excited the moment current starts flowing out of the battery. He also says \"the light turns on the moment current moves through it,\" which would technically happen almost immediately. He doesn't clarify that whatever current would be flowing after 1/c seconds would be totally negligible and would never turn on any real light that I'm aware of. The 1/c comes from 1 meter divided by the speed of light. Remember that the speed of light is actually the speed of the entire EM spectrum. So yes, some EM is reaching the light nearly instantly, but most of the energy-- in fact the huge majority of it-- has to wait for the movement of electrons in the wire to build electromagnetic fields along the wire... and then there's still a bunch of inductive and capacitive effects to account for; I'm not sure since it's not really within my understanding, but I'm guessing that a wire loop that long and that close is going to have some very significant capacitive effects, at the least.", "This is what we get from a jack of a few trades, master of none.", "That's why ethernet is twisted pair.", "Based on the conditions given, the light would illuminate after 1/c seconds. He says it lights up as soon as there's current in it. He doesn't mention that the current after 1/c seconds would be absolutely tiny and not enough for any real light. It's an interesting thought experiment, but totally confusing for anyone who doesn't already have an understanding of what he's talking about.", "Or, how about this: You hook up the circuit as described, but then you move the switch to the end of the circuit 1 light-second away. Can they send a Morse code message to the person almost instantaneously? I feel like that is completely wrong.", "Real answer is pretty much just cable theory. The resistance and capacitance of the wire are the main drivers.", "I can't speak for the defendant, but [this dude](https://physics.mst.edu/facultystaffandfacilities/faculty/jerrypeacher/) teaches Intro to Theoretical Physics.", "I still doubt the premise. In college we measured the propagation of an electric signal through a conductor, and found it to be way smaller than C. I think EXB at the light bulb will be 0 for >1s b/c of this. So while there will be power radiating from the battery, it wouldn't be directed to the bulb until much later.", "Yeah, I think he tried too hard to make it seem like more of a thing than it is. I think if you do the math you'll find that most of the energy flows in the space very close to the wires, and for the flow to happen you have to propagate it down the full length.\n\nAfter all, for the fields to be set up to transmit energy across the 1m gap between the battery and the bulb you have to have the electrons moving everywhere in the wire, and that can't happen faster than the speed of light down the full length of the wire.\n\nI think the FTL communication paradoxes that others have pointed out also point to the flaws in this thought experiment.", "Yeah, that part confused me a bit because I didn't quite connect that the battery and switch were 1 meter away from each other.", "It most certainly does flow", "See, that’s how I understood it before this video. But all the stuff about crossing the gap w/o going the length of the wire and the field stretching straight across the square circuit messed me up. It gives the impression that the electric field travels in the air between the battery and the bulb and the wires don’t really need to even be there.", "THANK YOU. His explanation assumes that there is already current present in the wire, and then also states that no current is needed for this to occur.\n\nOf course there will be a minuscule stray EM field hitting the bulb after 1/c but that isn’t the fucking bulb turning on. Also even when the circuit is fully functioning, the Poynting vector still means the flow is in the wires, not directly in the air gap (even if there is an infinitesimally small component there). Jesus Christ what a mess.", ">for the fields to be set up to transmit energy across the 1m gap between the battery and the bulb you have to have the electrons moving everywhere in the wire\n\nwhy? The moment you have any motion of any electrons that is beyond brownian/random, a net magnetic field will start appearing, and thus will induce voltage in nearby wires, which will also start to move electrons. The electrons near the switch start moving and bumping (so to speak), and that jostle travels along the wire at the speed of current (\\~ c i think?) \n\n\nWhether or not it's disingenuous to consider the bulb 'lit' from this momentary almost insignificant current flow is another story.", "Hey - I'm wrong. I generalized from my own university experience. It looks like the 2nd year course teaches things I learned in separate math and physics classes, but other universities appear to have similarily named courses.", "I generally dislike veritasium videos because of his attitude. The title is so smug - the concepts we learn are not wrong per se, just models to help make sense of complexity", "I agree with you strongly - I've met him and he has a very \"I'm the smartest person in every room\" vibe about him and is always trying to put you in a position to say \"gotcha\". Not a good channel and not a good guy", "Yea, I got that. I said it was set up like the qestion in the video.\nBut that part was definitely not explained well neither.", "At least it's not another shampoo ad", "It's \"km\", not \"m\" ^^sorry", "Somehow I went away from this knowing less about electricity.", "Man, after the Waymo shilling I was already on the fence. This one caused me to unsubscribe. \nWhat he claims is demonstrably false: \nApparently information about an electrical loop being closed (as in, nobody has cut the wire at the other end of the world) can now travel faster than the speed of light. \nHe took the theory, extended it to a real world example eschewing any semblance of rigor, and then made extraordinary claims without backing them up, all for the sake of views.", "I was under the impression that the electrical field collapses into the metal, as a magnetic field does when you attach both poles to an iron bar.", "You need the wires for the fields to exist though.. No wires, no fields, no energy movement.", "I was kinda confused by it. The way he puts it it seems that if I try to turn on a lamp with a faraday cage around it it would not turn on because the field wouldn't be able to get to it.", "You just wrinkled my brain. My head now hurts, and I'm afraid to say I barely get it. In fact, to me, the idea scientists \"got it\" 150 years ago wrinkles my brain as well.", "If I understand this correctly, you might be able to...if the lightbulb is designed to receieve power from electromagnetic waves.", "Length of wire doesn't matter... It only matters how far away the battery is from the bulb.\n\nThe way I took it is that the wires need to complete the circuit, but the energy doesn't go through the wires - it goes directly from the battery to the bulb... Which is only 1 meter away.\n\nI'm honestly a bit confused still.", "I understood from the diagram that energy doesn't travel in electrons along a wire, it travels directly from the battery to the lightbulb regardless of the length or position of the wire. This doesn't seem compatible with any physics that I've known to date. \n\nIs there an error in the explanation?", "Wait, what if someone cut the far end of the cable immediatly after the switch is turned. The lightbulb will only \"know\" about it in half a second, because information propagates with speed c. But the circuit wouldbe broken and no current should flow.", "That movement you're speaking of isn't what transmits the energy, but it would travel at the speed of light *of the medium its traveling through. The speed of light in a copper medium is different than through air, or through water.", "I don’t get how he arrives to 1/c as the solution. \nLike is it constant whatever the length of the conductor? Did I miss something obvious?", "I'm not the person you are replying to but I kinda agree with them about the comment thing. Maybe \"scammy, abusive\" is a bit of an exaggeration. Disingenuous is a better word IMO. It is absolutely clear that he does this in order to drive engagement on the video. That's how (a part of) Youtube works and he knows it. That's why we often hear Youtubers say stuff like \"What do you* think? Tell me in the comments below\".\n\nHe's a smart guy and his whole thing is that he explains how shit works. That doesn't vibe very well with kinda sorta tricking your viewers into helping you game the popularity algorithm of Youtube. Under the pretense that it will make you enjoy the video more.\n\nIt does however vibe with how he is also being disingenuous about the whole subject of the video (because in reality, \"Under even the most simple yet reasonable assumptions, the bulb won't light up completely at 1/c and he fails to clarify a number of things\").", "Edit: this is bullshit, nevermind I said anything. :) This would still propagate at a finite speed regarding the properties of said cube.\n\nThings don't have to move faster then light to make a change over one seconds of the speed of light away. \n\nImagine a stretch the length that light travels in one second, all filled with small cubes touching one another. If you push these on one end, they will immediately propagate the force through the next cube since they are touching. This goes on for the entire line of cubes. So while at the end, each indiviual cube will have moved by lets say a centimeter, you have caused the cube at the end of the line to move by a centimeter instantly.\n\nYou could see electrons the same way: it is not one electron going the entire way around, it is a change at the begining having an influence on the rest of the already available electrons in the chain.", "I see too much negativity for a video that tries to inspire people. No one here is a smart-ass.", "I know people who lived under powerlines who claimed their lights would light without being plugged in.", "Yeah, electric field propagation in copper is like 2/3 c if I recall correctly, maybe less. Similar to how light travels slower in mediums like glass or water.", "He doesn't actually show the experts agreeing, just a tiny bit from their conversation", "Does the wire being connected in a closed loop even matter for the tiny current after 1/c seconds? Very misleading video if it doesn't.", "Yeah, I think it's 1 second.", "Actually, I'm pretty sure that's not how that works; that would break causality. At an atomic level things don't \"touch\", and no object is perfectly inelastic. When you push on the end, the result will propagate to the end at `c` because each atom can't push on its neighbour and have that neighbour react by moving itself over in less than that time.", "I'm not defending the video, but I'm pretty sure you don't actually need it to know that the circuit is closed. If the circuit is not closed then you have two massive conductors separated by a resistor (the air) which means you have a massive capacitor. And until the charges get to the end of that distance, which can't happen faster than `c`, the capacitor couldn't possibly be \"full\", because part of the capacitor doesn't know the circuit is even on yet. So in your example it would take one hour to distinguish the wires from a capacitor. \n\nMaybe the premise is that the light would light up until that happens, at which point the charge would stop flowing out to the ends of the wires, since they're full now, and so the flux would stop at that point? I don't know enough about electrical engineering to know this part.", "Would love to see THAT on a viral youtube clip", "This is incorrect. The wave of movement would actually travel as the speed of sound (specific to that particular material). That's all sound is, after all.", "So is that it then? Because I barely understood any of this and I’m trying to wrap my head around what he was talking about.", "https://youtu.be/hvQ9H9K7XeM", "I am glad it worked for you. I have a background in Electrical and Computer engineering and have TA'd an introductory circuits course for 3 years. So I take particular issue with how this was taught. All I know taking this approach would lead to a lack of understanding of the things that matter about circuits.", "Lol yeah it's km not m. I wrote this while half asleep.", "> the concepts we learn are not wrong per se, just models to help make sense of complexity\n\nI agree with you but I have to add that there are degrees to which somewhere models are helpful while others cross the line and are wrong.\n\nI think the way kids learn about electric circuits is sometimes helpful. I have TAd for an Introductory circuits course for 2nd year engineering students amd we have to dispel a lot of poor understandings before we can begin teaching them the content we need them to learn. Again I do not think this Veritasium video was helpful.", "Wow! Now I'm wondering if this is due to some difference in Ukranian engineering or if this is possible in the US too.", "This is ridiculous. People starting to study electrical circuits dont need to know Maxwells theorems or even know they exist. This whole video is a level of knowledge that just over complicates matters and makes it more inaccesibale to a novice. Bad teaching.", "Still waiting on Tesla's wireless electricity transmission..", "You can. You just need a 100kV outlet.", "If you take a florescent tube under high voltage lines, it will glow.", "I feel like he's being deliberately misleading here. He's implying that the loop around the bulb is sending some fraction of the energy to the bulb, because the instant some fraction of the loop is energized, the bulb will have current passing through it, as soon as the energy gets to it, in (1m/c) [seconds].\n\nVery, very misleading and incredibly unhelpful.\n\nI've commented before on Veritasium being misleading and unhelpful and people always shrug it off.", "Keep waiting if you want every modern semiconductor around you to not all instantly fry.", "Ethernet ping shows this is well characterized already.", "> The electrons are moving, yes, but that is secondary to the fields as far as power is concerned. \n\nBut if you take the elections away, it wouldn't work. You can't really consider the individual pieces to be separate. The end effect is everything working together.\n\nWhy are the electrons moving? Because there's an electric field. Why is there an electric field? Because the electrons are moving.", "When designing microprocessors it's important to mind induced charge between wires. If you've got two wires running next to each other it's possible to get interference", "You're describing a sort of transformer at that point. This isn't a stupid thought experiment, this is physics 2 level emag and I'm amazed by how many people it's upsetting", "I am a hairstylist. When i turn off my clippers often a circuit breaker on a blowdryer two stations over will trip. Why does this happen?", "Didnt tesla do something like this with lightbulbs in the earth? I seem to recall it in a movie but I dont recall which. Or was it just movie magic?", "That field will only cause electrons to move while it is changing the moment you flip the switch. Afterward there will be no induced current.", "Yeah, completely agree. It's presented as if the bulb completely turns on within the time in takes for light to cross the gap. In reality the amount of power that gets transmitted in that time is the same as if you had 1 m wires with open circuits at the end (ie completely negligible). It's going to take much closer to the full 1 s for the lightbulb to turn on in any meaningful sense.", "Yea, he is clearly not above sacrificing accuracy and clarity for getting engagement on his YouTube video's. Its super common in pop-science though, especially when it comes to quantum mechanics.\n\nThis one is especially bad though.", "I feel like the field is a diagram of the average path that the energy is taking across all the similar universes in the multiverse, and that it is being transferred by these electrons in ours. I am not a physicist, it just seems to me that fields are mistaken as something more than what all the relevant particles in the multiverse are doing.", "The complete saying is \"A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one\", which kind of undermines your point", "It's also super misleading. The light would only light up dimly, with only a tiny fraction of the electric potential of the battery arriving in ~1 ns. With air resistance even less I imagine", "I though the same. The misunderstanding is that you think of \"the light bulb is turning on\" as that can actually see as a human the light coming from the bulb.\n\nIn the video \"the light bulb is turning on\" just means that the light bulb is receiving at least some (minuscule) form of current.\n\nNow, if you know that electromagnetic fields can transmit energy without cable (which for example [battery-less radios](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio) used) you'll see that you don't need any cables at all to switch the light bulb \"on\".\n\nOf course, there's a reason why we use cables to transmit energy, so the time until the light bulb turn really on, will take 1 second (or whatever the correct time would be, I can't remember the exact setup of the experiment).", "I would imagine it's coming...if not here already. In the meanwhile, there's always solar power", "Like any oversimplification there are compromises. This is why I alluded to the waves on top of water idea and specifically added the caveat about power. Your explanation doesn't really provide insight for someone who doesn't already understand electromagnetic fields and power transmission.", "Not always, it depends on the type of signal in the wire/trace. Low frequency switching signals for example are generally safe to not interfere with anything other than maybe a very small analog signal that is later amplified, etc. High frequency data signals or voltage supply rails from switching mode power supplies on the other hand are noisy and can easily cause electromagnetic interference/“crosstalk” to other lines. There’s also “differential signals” like USB data or Ethernet buses where they’re two opposite voltage, high-speed signals routed directly parallel with each other to sort of take advantage of each other’s EMI.", "yep exactly. I should have clarified that it would be \"the moment\"...but then none after it stabilizes.", "yea it'd be slower, but i looked it up and the range is pretty wide: \n[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity\\_factor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_factor) \n\n\nin some wires it's pretty close to c, in other's it's half.", "You can see how theoretical definitions are not really relevant in day to day life.I flip the switch,the bulb goes on and in a few seconds emits a steady stream of light(ok led turns on almost imediately,talking old timey incandescent).Nobody waiting infinity time.", "Nope, NEET", "The proof could be done with any size wire as long as the \"light bulb\" is sized appropriately.\n\nFor a 10mA bulb on 26 gauge wire, you would need about 250V to overcome the resistance of the wires (which have about 244V voltage drop).\n\nSure bigger wire would waste less power in the transmission, but that isn't the point of the test.", "I agree, I feel a bit unsatisfied with his thought experiment. The lamp is required to be an almost infinitely sensitive current detector for the \"correct\" answer to make sense.\n\nI think he could have dispelled the myth of current behaving like a liquid with individual electrons carrying the energy through wires using better analogies.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricalEngineering/comments/qwmb19/wanted_more_intelligent_discussion/hl44kl3\n\nThis is a transmission line, specifically twin lead. This guy simulated it. Current turns on in the bulb at 1m/c and stays on permanently. After an infinite amount of time it'll reach V/R.\n\nNothing about veritasium's video is unrealistic or misrepresentative. He states the wire has no resistance and the bulb lights up with any current. It's an introduction to fields for the casual audience.", "Anyone talking about ftl communication should realize that they're sending information over 1 meter in a time 1m/c...which is lightspeed. Crazy how that works!", "No error. It's electromagnetism. It does depend on the wires' positions.\n\nThis is how radio and transformers work, to name two examples", "IT DOESN'T VIOLATE CAUSALITY! The state of the entire circuit DOESN'T MATTER! You have current flow at the battery, that induces a current at the bulb, end of story.", "I thought the trick of the video was that the switch is at the side of the bulb. The time for the bulb to go on is dependent on the distance between switch and bulb (not battery and bulb) because the entire circuit is already \"pre-pressured\" by connecting the battery.\n\nIf he puts the switch on the battery side, it takes 1 sec for causality to travel to the bulb.", "I like to see a version where there is a insulation wall between battery and bulb, because I am not convinced that electricity is flowing there.\n\nAlso I think what matters is switch-bulb distance. If he puts the switch on the battery side, the bulb will have a 1sec delay.", "So if the light bulb is in a shielded box with wires running through it, it won't turn on?...", "I can't tell if he is doing it intentionally or if he is really bad at explaining things. I feel like someone more competent like yourself could have made a video half as long and explained everything without any confusion.", "I follow him for years and I thought he is a scientist who just dabbled in click-bait. Now I am beginning to think he is becoming a click-baiter who dabbles in science. This video has done serious damage to his reputation. \n\n* Asking for engagement\n* Stirring engagement by not explaining it properly\n* Probably already has planned a follow-up video to \"clarify\" (With the sail-car I assumed it might have been an accident and he really wanted to clarify it, but maybe now he built this in deliberately)", "It's not negligible because the bulb is defined as infinitely sensitive. It's \"on in the usual sense\" in 1m/c, when current flows through it and it lights up", "None of that should matter as the energy doesn't flow in the wires... It goes from battery to bulb upon circuit creation.\n\nCircuit creation is merely a means to start battery to bulb energy transfer.", "I wonder if the broadcast can be narrow-beamed for efficiency and safety. Either way, looks like the Kiwi's are giving it a go. https://newatlas.com/energy/long-range-wireless-power-transmission-new-zealand-emrod/", "I have a BS in physics, I don't need to blindly trust anyone. It seems like you're ignoring the problem's setup and then complaining when it doesn't work as you expect", "So how does this all work with electronic components? I've tried so many times to get my head around electronics and there's some kind of mental block that leads me to believe it's just magic...", "The position does matter. If you put both wires on one side, the energy makes the detour as well. Cause it travels in the field between and around the wires. \n\nThat's why the diagram is confusing, it shows the special case of symmetric wiring.\n\nEdit: hmm, even in nonsymmetric cases at least some energy will reach the bulb in 1/c, but it will be exceedingly weak. Since he said the theoretical bulb shines when any amount of energy reaches it, the answer is still 1/c.\n\nEdit: Or is it? It's definitely the lower bound, and it will be close. But the EM field will be at bit distorted at the beginning and end.", "A physics professor who calls himself a theoretical phycisist and teaches a theoretical class.", "Can you give a source (maybe some picture in a textbook) for \n\n> The bulk of the field density is still localized to (and immediately around) the wire\n\nI was always thought that the field inside the wire vanishes (which to be honest also caused some dissonance for me).", "Oh I am not saying anything that what he presented in the video is wrong and misleading. I am saying that it's an unhelpful way to approach this topic that might actively harm someones understanding.", "Did you think this video was an intro into circuitry?", "Installation and maintenance of buried high voltage/high power cables is in fact more costly than equivalent suspended powerlines. \n\nedit: that's what he said", "> The diagram he showed can lead to some very misleading conclusions.\n\nAlso because the language he uses is misleading; \nIn \"the light bulb has to turn on immediately when current passes through it\", \"current\" means any amount of current. Otherwise it would not work.", "I feel like a lot of the ACKSHUALLY! explanations about electricity downplay or ignore the fact that the electrons actually do have to be there. They hand wave them off as irrelevant and try to talk down the \"simpler\" explanation.\n\nI mean, if you want, we can write off all of mechanics and fluid dynamics as electric field integration too. Doesn't mean the first explanation isn't valid.", "Induction? I'm familiar with transformers, it's just the way he explained it in the video showed the electromagnetic field somehow knowing where the bulb was and transmitting directly to it.", "I can see that energy travels in the field around the wires. From the diagram in the vid it looked like energy somehow knew where the bulb was and was directly travelling to it through the air, along the shortest route, as opposed to following the route of the wires.", "Honestly, this is the first and only video I've seen that has downplayed electrons. Even my college physics course stressed on the action of electrons to the detriment of understanding the fields. If you believe the opposite is more common then by all means, keep stressing over these kinds of lies we tell in science; I'm just saying unless you offer an alternative explanation that is intuitive, it's not really helping anyone.", "the prestige", "Well, it travels everywhere.", "Speed of light is the theoretical maximum speed for information transmission. Being able to send a morse code message at (near) the speed of light is definitely possible - anyone can do it using a simple flashlight or laser.", "Exerting your own mental effort to pull apart a thought experiment is how you gain understanding. This video has succeeded in stimulating so much thinking in us, and IMO has contributed to much better understanding.", "You are correct that if the switch is on the side of the bulb, the time needed would be almost instant.\n\nBut in the circuit diagram for his question the switch is on the battery side, which makes the 1s answer the choice most people would take.\n\nBut he's really just talking about the EM waves from change in electric potential travelling through the air.", "Its still important to differentiate \"pretty close to c\" and half c. Relativistic speeds make things weird.", "That is not what they are talking about, though.\n\nThe idea is that (1) you need the full circuit to actually light the bulb, (2) the bulb turns on in 1/c seconds if the switch closes, and (3) you could be one light-second away with another switch, and the guy by the bulb will know whether or not the switch is closed in only 1/c seconds.\n\nI think that this is a direct result of confusion from his trying to argue that the bulb will turn on in 1/c despite the length of the circuit.", "1) is wrong. The length of the circuit is immaterial. It's a transmission line; see the link I posted elsewhere in the comments to a circuit simulation. If you understand the principles here there's no room for arguing that this is violating causality\n\nI don't know what you're saying with your third point. Are you talking about putting another switch at one of the far ends of the circuit?", "Yeah, and capacitance. The line is a transmission line, a series of resistors, inductors, and capacitors linking the two sides of the circuit. \n\nHonestly, I haven't watched the video. If you give me a timestamp I can take a look", "To more directly answer your point here, whether or not the wire is cut doesn't matter, the bulb still sees current in 1m/c. That's the result of it being a transmission line. You can model it with an open circuit at the end of the line instead of a short.\n\nThat's why it doesn't violate causality.", "1) is not wrong for a real bulb in a real circuit, though. To transmit enough power you need the conductors, and the majority of the power must follow those conductors because the magnetic field is strongest near the moving charges.\n\nIn your other comments I believe when you're talking about the 1/c time you are talking about the transient induced current in the bulb due to the changing current the moment you flip the switch. That does not seem to be what he is talking about in the video. I believe he is referring to the steady-state power that flows directly from the battery to the bulb according to the poynting vector field.\n\nMaybe he's talking about transient current in his reference to an ideal bulb, but in the context of the video he seems to be saying the power flows directly through space from battery to load. While true, he is doing a great disservice by failing to mention the magnitude of the power.\n\n>I don't know what you're saying with your third point. Are you talking about putting another switch at one of the far ends of the circuit?\n\nYes, that was someone's argument against the idea that the energy flows through space directly from the battery to the bulb at 1m/c. If the rest of the circuit matters, you could switch the far-away terminal to send FTL messages.\n\nI think it's just a result of the bad hypothetical scenario with overly-idealized circuit components confusing people. If he was to say that this is essentially an overly-complicated Qi charger then it wouldn't have that counterintuitive but interesting fact factor to get more views.\n\nWithout the hypothetical scenario it was a great video about how it is really the fields which transfer energy, but then he had to go and confuse it with this contrived example.", "1) is wrong because we're talking about a hypothetical infinitely sensitive lightbulb. We threw practicality away a long time ago with the lightyear-long conductors.\n\nIt's not a quick transient current. The bulb has a fairly constant amount of current for a year, then it steps up, and again next year. Eventually it'll ring and die down towards the t=infinity case. It's not as simple as V=IR even after a year unless you do the impedance matching (maybe impossible).\n\nA guy with a switch a light year away can't use it for FTL communication, because from t=0 to 1 year the circuit doesn't depend at all on what's a lightyear away. It works just the same for the first year if you have open circuits at both ends.\n\nIt seems like a lot of people are unhappy with the lightbulb, and would rather it be a very sensitive current meter with an indicator lightbulb on it. Fine, whatever. I'm more interested in correcting the \"violating causality!\" people", "Yeah, the overly-idealized bulb is a big part of the confusion.\n\nI think the \"violates causality\" people are only arguing for that as a proof that he is wrong about the energy just flowing through empty space directly to the bulb.\n\n>We threw practicality away a long time ago with the lightyear-long conductors.\n\nI believe the example was 1 light-second long, or a half light-second there and back, but yeah even that is incredibly unrealistic (although nowhere near as much as a lightyear-long conductor).\n\nI just think it is very misleading to use this infinitely sensitive bulb for the experiment, because it essentially means the circuit doesn't really matter (but not for the reason he is making this experiment).\n\nThe whole point of the video is to talk about how the fields convey the energy, not the charges. This crazy thought experiment did nothing to help this illustration.\n\n>It's not a quick transient current. The bulb has a fairly constant amount of current for a year, then it steps up, and again next year.\n\nHowever long the transient lasts, it is not going to cause enough current flow in the wire 1m away to light a real bulb unless we start applying huge voltages. The power which lights a real bulb propagates in the fields along the full length of the wire close to the wire. Whatever energy that takes a direct path through the air is negligible in comparison.", "Agreed. Put the bulb in a farady cage save for two holes for wire -- bulb turns on\n\nCut the wire -- bulb doesn't turn on.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nPlaying with words, claiming Poynting vector carries energy but electrons don't, is like saying \"electrons don't carry energy, the field around the electron does\", guess what, duh-duh, there two are the same thing.", "Guess you'd be the right one to ask here: is Poynting vector a real thing like electrons are?\n\nWhen he says \"Poynting vector in the entire space carry energy from battery to light bulb\", is it just an Electromagnetism abstraction of saying \" electric field of free electrons in the wire combined carry energy to lightbulb\"? And since you can't separate a electron from its field, i suppose it's identical to electrons carrying energy to the lightbulb.", "Especially since the sail-car has such an easy explanation: a 2D diagram can't show the wind interacting with the rotor when the vehicle is moving at wind-speed. But a 3D diagram can clearly show the rotor hitting the air and pushing air back (hence pushing the vehicle forward).\n\nVery simple explanation, made deliberately obtuse.", "That's what I said...", "So you did.", "Link me if you find", "Do you have any links you could send me to explain more?", "What would be the amp rating of this hypothetical 100kv plug ?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU434h9_c7A&ab_channel=MultiScience3", "YouTube learner here - (not college professor 🥇😛) I think it’s because the high voltage power lines don’t use insulation like rubber on the lines. They distance inculcate them. Keeping them far enough apart so the magnetic waves don’t affect each other. \nSo the bulb is being lit from a hot line to ground. AGAIN DISCLAIMER. \nidk shit. I’m a film lighting technician. I use camlock to bates to plug in 10k watt lights on and that’s it. \n\nBut In 3 phase maybe it doesn’t matter if the magnetic waves affect each other cause the are all tied together at trasformer anyways.", "Do we possible just use the way we run electricity because we didn’t understand it at the time enough and just knew it worked this way so it became industry standard. \nNow us dip shits (not the college prof’s on here) are trying to figure out the “intelligent reason for why they run proper they way the do” but really we are just using barbaric methods?", "God you fucking smartass. Why you such a fucking tool", "No why. Did you, idiot?", "Idiot ssshhhhhhh", "Shhhhhhhh" ]	184	videos	The Big Misconception About Electricity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DokS7tP_yTg	/r/videos/comments/qygfxy/how_two_master_thai_chefs_prepare_a_whole_cow/	[ "Very nice, I’m not sold on the young poop sauce though", "As long as it doesn't make me sick i'd be down to try it.", " Would you like to try my old poop sauce? I personally make it.", "Oh it will...free ride for a lot of parasites", "> the bile helps kill the germs in the meal\n\nthat's just a strong acid man. you don't have to use bile from the animal. you can just use a strong acid line vinegar.", "I'm listening...", "You aren't using the words \"master\" or \"chef\" correctly.", "We're looking for only young poop sauce here sir, I have to kindly decline. It pairs nicely with my [virgin boy eggs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg#:~:text=Virgin%20boy%20eggs%20are%20a,under%20the%20age%20of%20ten.)", "Don't listen to me poop!" ]	9	videos	How Two Master Thai Chefs Prepare a Whole Cow Isan Feast — Made in Thailand
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YhYBPUfY11w&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qygnm8/my_new_heater_kind_of_sounds_like_a_trumpet_at/	[ "Yikes", "It's like Blade Runner, holy shit", "Pretty sure this is a Boards of Canada song", "I had the same vibe with the note change. It sounds like that synthy ambient part.", "Remixes on TikTok incoming", "That first note sounds like it's about to play taps", "Sounds like the opening to a crime noir film", "Oh damn, you nailed it.", "Lmao holy shit. I thought the exact same thing immediately. Not often I see BoC referenced in these here parts.", "Bruh you're on to something.\n\nLook at the pattern of the metal in front.\n\nMaybe if we count the hexagons, divide them by 666 and color drop the heaters color and multiply that RGB code with the hexagon number we'll get a release date of the next album?!", "Surely no co-incidence that they used to perform as part of the Hexagon Sun Collective.....", "Right at the start it sounds like something we'd hear in Stranger Things", "The heater walked in from the cold and shook off its fur coat like a lion in a shitstorm. I was just about to leave for the night, but I knew this was going to be worth missing my date with a bottle. Something about this heater made me think of soft sheets and deep pockets. And it cut a good figure, to boot.", "Get 11 more of them and see what you can do.", "I'm curious what's actually making the sound. Are the elements or coils being heated so quickly that they're vibrating hard enough to make audible sounds?" ]	15	videos	My new heater kind of sounds like a trumpet at start-up
https://youtu.be/6DEdq2WdFnU	/r/videos/comments/qyh1g7/hammer/	[ "Metal.", "I had to take a mandatory fine art in high school. They almost made me take band. \n\nI want this guys Job if that happened.", "So he was waiting for it to be.... Hammer time?", "“Yeah I’m a musician”", "He looks like that guy from the Mythbusters. Rory or something.\n\nEDIT: Tory.", "How many time does he have to do that. And does it have a carrying case?", "I think they are built in and he wheels around a giant hammer-sized case.", "As a percussionist I can honestly say: you live for these moments.", "Three times during that movement", "Created for Mahler's 6! Mahler wanted a sound that was duller than what was normally achieved with a drum and thus the hammer was born.", "the description says this is the second famous hammer blow in the song, so at least one other time.", "Always wanted to ask a percussionist - are percussionists usually able to play drums as well you know, like a drummer in a band?", "Most can fake it, depending on their level of experience. Hard to think there's a pure percussionist who's never dorked around on a kit before. It's a different level of coordination than a percussionist in an orchestra is expected to handle, that's the main difference.", "And is only he worthy of wielding it?", "Truly instrumental to the production", "Yes. The authors of 4-Way Coordination spent 40+ years in the Minnesota Orchestra. Orchestral percussion positions in the U.S. are rarer than federal judgeships; by the time you get called up to the big leagues, it'd be weird if you couldn't play kit.The only exception I can think of would be if you only did percussion through high school, didn't take private lessons, and the band instructor doesn't include drum set pieces or allowed one person to hog all of them (which isn't impossible or even necessarily rare, because a lot of conductors despise percussionists). But any jazz ensemble is going to require you to know kit, and at the collegiate level, you will receive private instruction with drums. Oddly, drum set isn't a part of the college audition process, although you do have to demonstrate snare drum rudiments, which are best learned on a drum set anyway. Some rudiments don't really make sense without a drum set. You can learn them, but it's like memorizing math formulae by rote; everything just clicks so much better when you can see how they're derived and how to apply them.\n\nSomething that seems fairly common is that elementary band instructors will go out of their way to stack the deck specifically in regards to the percussion section. The year before we started band in fifth grade, my school district tested all 4th graders for musical skills and aptitude, with a questionnaire asking you to indicate what instrument you wanted to play AND what sort of private music instruction you'd already had. The band instructor briefly interviewed anyone who requested percussion. Our percussion section had at least 2 of the top 5 scores in the district, and only one drummer had no prior piano/drum lessons. It's kinda fucked up in terms of privilege, but the moral of the story is that if you have any early indication your kid wants to play drums in school band, convince them they have to take piano lessons first." ]	17	videos	Hammer
https://youtu.be/AjaioEX1OBU	/r/videos/comments/qyh84e/rogue_wave_created_by_wave_generator/	[ "They call ‘em rogues, they travel fast and alone. 100-foot faces of God’s good ocean gone wrong.", "[ Jump to 01:30 @ Rogue Wave created by Wave Generator](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjaioEX1OBU&t=0h1m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: HD1080ide, Video Popularity: 94.00%, Video Length: [10:24])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjaioEX1OBU&t=0h1m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "I love the way some of the kids are standing totally still but then at some sudden point are just like \"Nope, time to run away now\"", "I didn’t expect to see Brand New lyrics here but I’m all for it. One of my all time favorite songs.", "Crazy that for a long time people didn't believe these were real, and a lot of sailors were held in suspicion when they said their ships had gone down because of them.", "Awesome. Saved", "I got hit by \"The Three Sisters\" once when I was way out in the water on a sandbar on Lake Superior. Up by Tetagouche. My brother and I were swimming about 150 feet out and a wave rolled over us. Swells were only about a foot at the time. Barely a ripple. \n\nThen we got knocked ass over teakettle. At least a 6 foot wave from nowhere. Then a gap. Then another huge one, bigger than the first. We were ready for that one. Then another. After that, back to just 1 foot swells. There were no passing lakers so it wasn't wake. They wouldn't be going that way. Regardless they'd be 20 miles at least from shore if they were. They'd be over the horizon. It was just \"The Three Sisters.\"\n\nThey happen, and they happen without warning. You can see them once they shoal, but, on open water, they're invisible. I can't describe it properly. It's a sunny day with light wind, no big deal, then boom! You're done.\n\nIf there had been weather, they would have been 40 foot swells, but, if there had been weather, we wouldn't have been swimming.\n\nDon't trust big water. These things happen.", "I dont know what I watched other than loud machines and dirty water.\n\nCan some one explain this to us land locked desert folk?", "Is it a good idea to get splashed in the face by that water that looks like cancer?", "I’ve been on big water in small boats and had the crap scared out of me by weird waves. I’ve always felt they come in batches of nine - the ninth wave is the worst one, and the eighty-first one wants to kill you. After every ninth one, there’s a gap of one missing wave; that’s your chance to cinch up your life jacket, switch tanks, or do whatever you’ve been too scared to relax your death grip on the wheel and do up until that point.", "The best answer I have for you is to check the youtube comments. I don't know any more than you do.", "You write very well.", "it's explained at 3'20\n\nThey create a bunch of waves at different speed so they merge into a big wave right in the end.\n\nIf they just had used the same speed for all the waves, you wouldnt get the big splash in the end but just small waves hitting the wall 4 times.", "Was equally impressed by the waves as well as the whole machinery. Not only how little water actually leaks through but how much power this thing must have.", "Waves and machinery are cool, \nhttps://youtu.be/WffR6HrEqTA?t=40\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M21_zCo6UM", "Thank you!", "The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down...", "You know, I was about to call you out for the 3'20, but working in the surveying industry, I just realised I read it as 3 minutes 20 seconds, and now have come to realise that ive been doing this job for too long.", "I really wish Big water wasnt so incorporated into the government, we need regulation for these kind of things.", "> Now it’s a thing that us oldtimers know. In a sultry summer calm\n\n\n>There comes a blow from nowhere, and it goes off like a bomb\n\n\n>And a fifteen thousand tonner can be thrown upon her beam\n\n\n>While the gale takes all before it with a scream", "this should be nsfw for sailors", "I was doing this when I was little sliding back and forth in the tub until one big wave would almost touch the ceiling. Good times", "It's a european / non-US notation for time / duration.\n3' 20\" (EU) = 3 min 20 sec\n\nI often see many european people mistakenly use ' and \" this way in the US, where this means feet / inches.", "That noise and visuals give me serious Half Life flashbacks..", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ylOpbW1H-I", "Would love to know how there's a water tight seal on the wall that moves", "Of the big lake they called Gitche Gumee", "What is my purpose?", "It’s the same for minutes and seconds of latitude and longitude. 5°24’14”N", "1. Created intentionally\n\n2. Entirely contained withing purpose built facility\n\nRogue my ass", "Waves motions and timing can combine at just the right time in the right way so that they all merge causing a larger more powerful wave, reports ranging in size from 25-33 meters high. Large enough and strong enough to sink ships basically.\n\nAlso the opposite is true and you can have rogue dips where there are inverse waves of a large size.", "Typical German naming. One of the biggest wave generators in the world: Big wave generator", "I didnt know americans didnt use it for drafting and such. Im Australian, and only really encountered it when i started working in the surveying industry.", "Things like this scare the hell out of me lol, I have mad respect for those that make a living at sea. But even scarier are the rogue holes. I remember reading about it on Reddit and i feel like it’s way worse lol.\n\n\nLink: https://www.reddit.com/r/thalassophobia/comments/b6pxrb/til_about_rogue_holes_massive_wave_troughs_that/", "I need you like water in my lungs", "Imagine this happening but in the middle of the ocean and waves converging to a single point from all directions. IIRC they can form a tall peaked tip or very deep dip which could even possibly swallow ships.", "The deep dip is what probably killed a lot of oceangoing vessels, and even some vessels on the Great Lakes. IIRC I believe a recent investigation now believes the Edmund Fitzgerald was taken out by a rogue wave.", "This is verifiably false" ]	38	videos	Rogue Wave created by Wave Generator
https://youtu.be/mbKtXfTZMik	/r/videos/comments/qyhfix/anyone_remember_these_guys/	[ "Hell yeah. Sifl and Olly. Sifl and Olly show (rock).", "The only other thing I loved about MTV in the 90's besides the music videos.", "I was literally just talking about them to a friend about 2 hours ago asking if he ever saw any episodes. Amazing show!", "Loved loved loved it! Got to get these llamas to school! \n\nWeren’t they screwed over by MTV executives and had their careers basically ruined?", "Loved that show!!!!!!", "Crescent fresh", "Super cres at best", "It sounds like something MTV would do.", "Remember when they interviewed orgasm and G spot. G spot was super gangster and when they asked how to find him he told them to just hit him up in his pager. Fucking hilarious show.", "Have you tried this Precious Roy™ Chicken Flavored Air-conditioning, doctor?", "Also, from the mind that brought us [United States of Whatever](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7_3n7xyDg)", "That was awesome", "Not only do I remember Sifl and Olly, but my wife and I went to the first (and only I think) Cres-Fest in Nashville back in 2000 or 2001. Drove from Atlanta to Nashville super early, hung out with Matt Crocco and Liam Lynch and then left in the evening to drive home. And the weirdest thing is you stand around talking to the creators like no big deal, but they whip out a couple of sock puppets and people lose their minds. It was surreal as Hell, but a great time.", "Yeah, i still quote it constantly with my siblings. Even got my neice into the panda songs.\nBuy my horse dividers, SUCKERS!!!", "Loved Sifl and Olly as well as Liquid Television.", "I wish they would rehash the show.", "You take Pico", "Never seen this before in my life.", "I just remember when it got stickied on /b/ a couple years ago. Never watched it on MTV, didn't have cable until once it was off the air.", "Is it true the members of Sugar Ray can fly?", "Precious Roy, precious Roy, making lotsa suckers outta girls and boys!", "Aqua-lung my friend.", "I keep it on vibrate.", "Chester for the win.", "Fake blood. You scare me like the real thing. And if you were the real thing, you'd scare me moooore.", "Colorado Colorado", "They must have done something because it never showed up again on replays or DVD or anything like that. Other than you tube the show effectively disappeared.", "I still fondly think back to this show, so very quotable, so very ridiculous. Yeah, I loved this show also...\n\n[Silf and Olly - Motherf\\*ckin' Pie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMpL_lw-qHo) \n\n\nLastly, I've ridden my bike past this place so many times out in the country, and I thought about Sifl and Ollie every single time, so I had to stop and record it \n\n\n[Llama School](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYmkNbq-TLQ)", "Beavis and Butthead, Liquid Television, 120 Minutes, etc.\n\nMTV had a lot of good stuff in the 90s.", "\"what is your least favorite emotion?\" \"Itchy\"", "Think it was over ownership of their songwriting?", "There ain't nothing in the kitchen but a one legged chicken and a hound dog, hound dog", "I could have sworn they were a fever dream for about 10 years.\n\nI used to get so sick on a regular basis, they were threatening to not let me graduate high school even though I still had the best grades in my class. One day when I was really sick, I fell asleep with the TV on Cartoon Network, which was two channels off from MTV. In the middle of the night, I rolled onto the remote, turning the TV on, raising the volume, and switching to MTV, where Sifl and Olly started singing \"I Miss The 80's\". \n\nhttps://youtu.be/Nd0fFWban-Y\n\nNeedless to say, when you're running a 102 degree fever and that wakes you up, you're not sure if you're really awake or not. I didn't discover the existence of the show until the early 2000s...", "Chester is the best", "I'm Precious Roy and I just ate a spoonful of honey bees!", "Calls calls calls, calls from the public, calls calls calls calls!", "Rock!", "[YES, i constantly sing the “Fake Blood” song.](https://youtu.be/WwoSQpsNg3E)", "also i remember “tuning” into a Winamp channel that was a 24/7 Sifl and Olly channel.", "and The State!", "MTV's Oddities, Aeon Flux, The Brothers Grunt. Mtv was pretty great at one point.", "I'm gonna dip my balls in it!", "That show was sooo underrated. Fucking years ahead of its time. I still catch myself singing random tunes.", "We as Reddit united need to make “crescent fresh” a thing. Commit now to using it in ALL other subs!", "I'm going to be the next Canadian Dracula", "I'm freezing my crunch berries off.", "Las Palmas", "Sorry Dolores, ya toitle is dead.", "CALLS CALLS CALLS, CALLS FROM THE PUBLIC!", "Liquid Television was awesome. First Aeon Flux cartoon came from that.", "Get to llama school!", "I'm precious Roy, and the kids at the pond feed me bread. SUCKERS!!!", "Speaking of puppets, anyone remember boney/weinerville on Nick? https://youtu.be/AclI2PE_R7E", "Yeah whatever!", "YEAH WHATEVAH", "Jargon Scott is my go to RPG name", "That's freaking awesome", "I'm on board", "Practically raised me. Feeling very Cable Guy right now", "Chester’s cringe fest" ]	59	videos	Anyone remember these guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0y5Z8_tefY&ab_channel=BBCReel	/r/videos/comments/qyhqd3/extinct_tree_from_the_time_of_jesus_rises_from/	[ "I wonder what if any other extinct plants were found", "A life for a life!", "Is a seed alive?" ]	3	videos	Extinct tree from the time of Jesus rises from the dead in Israel
https://youtu.be/LYubpuIe3cw	/r/videos/comments/qyi149/train_vs_tornado/	[ "At first, an almost “peaceful” derailment. And then…. 😳", "I’m not a physics man, but I believe the train being in Motion makes it a lot easier to blow over.", "Well there’s your problem.", "Spoiler... Tornado won.", "The \"Oh SHIT\" moment of seeing the rest of the cars bearing down on the locomotive was kind of surreal and movie-like", "I need to watch a video of train derailment clean up", "Confirmed: you're definitely not a physics man.", "Well they do say a tornado sounds like a freight train!", "Seeing one of them looking like a giant propane tank made me think this was going to be much worse than it ended up being.", "I have had it with these muthafuckin brakes on this muthafuckin train.", "I say it as a kid I remember being able to easily blow on a moving pool ball to get them to move. But blowing hard on a still pool ball would not get it to move.", "That’s because of static vs dynamic coefficients of friction. That being said, I’m not sure it would make very much of a difference in keeping the train on the tracks.", "So this tornado really did sound like a train.", "This has nothing to do with keeping the train on the tracks. Any force forward or backward on the train is either going to speed it up or slow it down. It's forces on the side of the train (which will also have the largest surface area to the wind) that will derail it, and it would be relatively the same amount of force whether it's moving or not. However, I guess we'll see if a physics professor comes in and tells me I'm an idiot.", "Unstoppable force meets a movable object", "I'd think if anything a moving train's inertia would make it slightly harder to derail via crosswind, but I too will await the physics professor.", "this is actually the worst part", "If those cars were empty, and, a good portion of the time train cars are empty, than lighter weight and increased surface area combined with the relative higher placement of trains in the surrounding terrain, i.e. typically on a slightly raised gravel bed, and a significant air gap underneath train cars providing excellent aerodynamic capabilities makes train cars at times very susceptible to extreme wind phenomena. Honestly, it wouldn't even take a strong tornado to do this.", "I'm so dumb that I thought the Train was gonna fight the Tornado like driving into it or some shit", "I dunno.. i saw the lead singer of smash mouth getting pelted with bread live on stage recently", "I really believed train was going to do better.\n\nNeeds more training for the next match!", "Train vs. tornado! Now that's a video! Linda get in here!!", "This time. They will meet again.", "Reminds me of the train wreck that cain’s chicken sponsored https://youtu.be/U7WfeV01A4g", "There is a certaing speed (critcal speed) where if a horizontal disturb is applied on the train it will build up until it derails.\n\nIts a very complex [phenomenon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_oscillation) where even the train joints and track stiffness are to be accounted for. There can be also aerodynamics interactions with the flowing air around the train that can lead to [flutter and other](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroelasticity).\n\nIts not the phenomenon we see here, where there is simply a horizontal \"constant\" force being applied that push and flips the train carts, where its only the train wieght that fights against the flip. In that case the train speed must have little impact.\n\nJust wanted to point out that a faster train is more likely to derail by all kinds of complex sutff.", "[Hunting oscillation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_oscillation) \n \n >Hunting oscillation is a self-oscillation, usually unwanted, about an equilibrium. The expression came into use in the 19th century and describes how a system \"hunts\" for equilibrium. The expression is used to describe phenomena in such diverse fields as electronics, aviation, biology, and railway engineering.\n \n[Aeroelasticity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroelasticity) \n \n >Aeroelasticity is the branch of physics and engineering studying the interactions between the inertial, elastic, and aerodynamic forces occurring while an elastic body is exposed to a fluid flow. The study of aeroelasticity may be broadly classified into two fields: static aeroelasticity dealing with the static or steady state response of an elastic body to a fluid flow; and dynamic aeroelasticity dealing with the body's dynamic (typically vibrational) response. Aircraft are prone to aeroelastic effects because they need to be lightweight and withstand large aerodynamic loads.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Starring... Jason Statham!", "Yeah I didn’t think before about how all the cars must not fall off in a derailment. The inertia of the rest of the train coming must be so immense.", "The folks on [Catastrophic Failure](https://old.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/) would enjoy this.", "/r/CatastrophicFailure", "I've been told a tornado sounds like a train coming so if a tornado hits a train is it two trains now?", "I see you also go to Bohemian Nights.", "I feel sorry for the person standing near these tracks, trying to figure out which one is headed their way.", "I suppose it could have Michael Bay'd the ending..." ]	33	videos	Train vs tornado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb2cd5e2OhU	/r/videos/comments/qyipnn/a_willie_wagtail_attacking_a_cat/	[ "How do I be this cat in life?", "I don't think I've ever seen a less fazed cat.", "Cat: \" I know I put my fucks to give around here somewheeere... \n\nNope, can't find 'em.\"", "That is a big fat cat.", "I bet those birds have a nest with eggs or chicks in it nearby. That cat has either already eaten some or is about to.", "Cat doesnt care, he just added them to the list of the other 100 animals he plans to kill that night.", "Barn swallows used to dive bomb our cats if they were near the barn. Most of the cats ran from it. But one just sat there acting like he didn't notice. One time I was watching them do it to him wondering why he let them and then in the blink of an eye he just put a paw in the air and hauled one down. He stepped on it for a few minutes as it wiggled and stared at the other birds. The he slowly ripped it apart, always staring at them. He left the mangled bird on the driveway and calmly walked away. That was the end of the dive bombing.", "You can't. They're just better than us", "That cats so chill!", "Yep. Keep your killing machines inside people. Native Australian wildlife have been decimated by cats.", "No, i have two indoor cats and a hamster. One would it quickly. The others cat lets it run around and even runs into my docile cat and my cat doesn't care.", "That cat didn't care and was chill. My Bengal has a kill streak of birds. I'd either be chasing a dying bird around the house, or have to clean up a dead bird.", "haha my cat has a bad habit of eating baby birds, so when she goes outside the birds all start squawking really loud and sometimes divebomb her like this.\n\nAbsolute menace", "yup same, my cat purposely eats less food so it can go hunting", "I was going to say that's a hit cat and death is near for some birds.", "most cats do, some cats are so docile they just don't hunt, though. ever. anything. even if you put them in a bathtub with a mouse, they won't respond. its really weird, because the stats are right, cats are killing machines, but sometimes they just...don't...have it. the killer instinct. whatever it is.", "Fascinating cross-species nonverbal communication going on here. For me, the observer, the funny thing is I wonder if each understands the other and chooses not to modify their behavior/message, or they just don't understand at all. As pointed out in the comments, I believe the cat at least \"gets it\" but chooses to not modify hiis behavior at all as a message for the bird which seems to be in quite a state of desperation.", "It does depend on where you are. \n\n\nIn the UK cats in urban/suburban areas have long since become part of the natural order of things and can actually fill the niche that wildcats used to play - rarely hunting, except for weak or sick juveniles. There's no evidence they're impacting bird numbers.\n\n\nIn Australia though, I'd guess it's a totally different environment as they'll be a proper invasive species and I don't think Aus had anything in that niche before 1800.", "Most of the birds where I live are seagulls and there's no way a cat will take an adult. Babies stay on rooftops unless they fall.\n\nThat being said, way too many small animals die on the road I live so I don't let my cats leave the garden.", "are birds the only animal in australia that CANT kill you?", "I disagree. I feel like this captures the human experience exactly.", "Yes the real issue is on islands where you got species that have evolved with no real natural predators or at least no natural predators that can scale a tree. In these instances they can absolutely decimate species but in most areas that have natural predators it doesn't make nearly as much of a difference.", "I was worried it wasn't going to make the jump.", "He showed those f**kers who's boss! Reminds me of that lady filming herself freaking out as a bird tried to aggressively peck at her riding a bike in a particular part of her daily commute. \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGGTcYfrEZU&ab_channel=MichaelBillings", "Meh its not a lean cat but definitely not a big fat cat", "This sounds exhausting", "Yup, this is the same in Italy too. I see people talk a lot about cats outside being an invasive species and I guess for Americans or Australians this is true but there's plenty of other countries (like most of Europe, at least southern Europe) where it's totally normal and cats are pretty much part of the local fauna at this point.", "Dowmvote this man!", "YOUR EXISTENCE IS DUE TO THE LARGESS OF A LAZY CAT" ]	30	videos	A willie wagtail attacking a cat.
https://youtu.be/2nkAJogQioc	/r/videos/comments/qyjiao/never_going_back_again_lindsey_buckingham_with/	[ "Ooooooweeeee what's up with that?", "Ridiculous talent and doesn’t get the recognition he deserves.", "When you sing something like this as a 20-something it lands one way, when you sing it as a 72 year old who has all the experience that comes with that, it’s a totally different thing.", "Seriously amazing talent…", "I’m not crazy about the slower version he sings like this. Kind of draws it out too much, and makes it more like a spoken word song. I do love this song in general, though.", "Just an amazing guitar player and a huge influence on my style of playing guitar. He and Paul Simon are probably the two most underrated guitar players of the 70's.\n\nCould do without the lugubrious vocal, though, but I get it, he's not 25 anymore.", "Oh, and we're out of time.", "Lindsey Buckingham is God. Fuck Eric Clapton.", "Oh no. Oh no Lindsey, I can't believe this happened again. I'm so sorry Lindsey. Can you forgive me Lindsey?", "> Because it's all ritardando\n\nThis sounds like a horrible Nintendo game. Like one that's just unfair.", "best fleetwood song, yet you don't hear it that much.", "And on your birthday, Lindsey!", "Yeah he dragged it out but there's no questioning his talent as a player or a songwriter", "Lindsey has made $100 million, was inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame, won 2 grammys, and appears on every \"top 100 guitarists of all time\" list. I don't think he's suffering from lack of recognition.", "Fleetwood Mac is my absolute favorite band. I understand the feeling behind what you are saying, and do not disagree with you at all, but /u/Nevermind04 is right. While he isn’t talked about as much as Clapton, Page, or Hendrix who are (and were) his contemporaries, he is definitely highly regarded. His playing style is a great synthesis of banjo and traditional guitar. Got to see him play with the rest of Fleetwood Mac on the last tour they were all on. It was fantastic. Like Mick Jagger, he had the energy and fire of someone 40 years younger. He also spent more time on stage than anyone else in the band except maybe Mick Fleetwood. Anyway, have a great rest of your day! :-)", "Re-reading my comment, I think I may have come off as critical of Lindsey when nothing could be further from the truth. I've seen Fleetwood twice (once without Christine and once with) and I've seen Lindsey solo. I appreciate the hell out of him and all of his talent, but I just don't think he's a hidden gem. He's out there and tens (maybe even a hundred) of millions of people love him.", "It didn’t seem like you were being critical of Buckingham and I definitely agree with you. 😁" ]	18	videos	Never Going Back Again \| Lindsey Buckingham with David Belasco at USC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUynRdzzsM	/r/videos/comments/qyjvci/six_pieces_sixteen_pigs_beware_of_any_pig_farmer/	[ "Such a great movie!\n\nNo thanks Turkish.. I'm sweet enough!", "A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent, personified in this case by a horrible cunt. Me.", "before ze Germans get in.", "Non the richer", "“ I expect he’s going to kill us, and feed us to the pigs.“", "An ‘orrible cunt.", "Robert Pickton knew all about this.", "This came out in 2000. Willie Pickton was caught in 2002.", "Highly recommend the game \"Adios\" if you'd like a forlorn take on this.", "He's like a British version of The Wolf from Pulp Fiction lol", "He is believed to have begun his murders in the early 1980s after inheriting the farm.", "Turkish \"I reckon the hare gets fucked.\"\n\nMickey \"Fucked? Or proper-fucked?\"", "You beat me to the comment", "I have used the line \"I'm Winston Wolf. I solve problems.\" many times, and no one ever seems to get it.", "periwinkle blue mate", "Odd hearing him use pounds instead of kilos to describe body weight. Anyone know why he didnt use metric here?", "Probably in my top 10 favorite movies of all time.", "A fun scene, but I think that he's underestimating having to deal with all of the blood, entrails, etc... that separating a body into 6 pieces will necessitate. 3 grown men should be able to handle an unseparated dead body without having to leave a gruesome scene and get evidence spread everywhere and all over everyone. \n\nJust feed the whole body to the pigs.", "Yes, proper fucked. By zee Germans.", "[Had to Google that](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton)", "They still use stones and pounds when talking about body weight.", "Desktop version of /u/PissdrunxPreme's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "What? No, you're doing it wrong. Legs and arms off at the joints, head off between C3 & C4. Don't pierce the abdomen if possible. Do the disjointing in a bath tub with frequent sluices of water, finishing with a gallon of undiluted bleach. \n\nShave the hair and pull the teeth before detaching the head, makes it easier. Crack the skull and the femurs before removal from the tub. Femurs are a little too tough for a pig to crack, and they can't open wide enough to get purchase on a head.\n\nThree blokes can move a whole body easy enough, but carrying a roll of carpet with feet sticking out is a bit sus.", "Canada's the same. We use feet and inches for height too", "One of my favourite go to movies, made so well and looking forward to being able to introduce it to my children in a few years", "A British person will describe themselves as weighing \"10 stone\" (for example), and they might say the nearest cinema is \"5 miles away\". They have a fearful and contradictory relationship with the metric system, which mirrors their relationship to Europe, and indeed the post-Empire world as a whole", "Now why didn't someone give this to myth busters?", "You take sugar?\n\nNo thank you, Turkish. I'm sweet enough.", "'Are these Lancashire pigs?'\n\n'Who tha fuck's talkin' to you boy?'", "Man I love this movie", "This is the most quotable film.", "Im scared of you mate", "Mohammad bin Salman's favorite scene.", "Yeah, it sucks when pigs manage to trample you. Not a place you wanna stay if you fall", "Where is mythbuster when we need them :/", "I get that a lot. I don't know why. 🤔🤣🤣", "I wish they made more \"caper\" movies..", "Alan Ford (Bricktop) is pretty friggin' funny, too:\n\n[Sunday Observer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEiNrLESexg)\n\n[Washing Machine](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGlUUAmjxk)", "Brings to mind another expression from the American Mid-West: \"He went to shit and the hogs ate him\".", "Or just freeze first, and slice up on a bandsaw.", "11 years ago I was dating this girl who quoted this scene, \"they'll go through bone like butter!\" Needless to say we got married and we're still together.", "For a while I was actually convinced he says \"audible cunt\", which I'll admit, doesn't make much sense.", "Last Podcast on the Left also has an excellent series on Willie Pickton. One of my favorite series they’ve done.", "Fer me mar", "Thanks I’ll check it out", "Matching 'scover cushions", ">[The Pickton brothers] registered a non-profit charity, the Piggy Palace Good Times Society,\n\nSomehow, this is more disturbing than the serial killings.\n\n>Its events included raves and wild parties featuring Vancouver sex workers and gatherings in a converted slaughterhouse on the farm at 953 Dominion Avenue in Port Coquitlam. These events attracted as many as 2,000 people. Members of the Hells Angels were known to frequent the farm.\n\nOK, this is a fucking Hitman level.", "Stop me whilst I'm walking and I'll cut your FUCKING JACOBS off.", "Unless you're discussing queefs.", "Was this not called \"snatch\"? Or layer Cake?", "Do you know what Nemesis mean?", "Thanks for the reply. No idea why I’m being downvoted into oblivion rn tho it was an honest question 😅", "I don't care if he's Mohammad \"I'm hard\" Bruce Lee...", "I'LL CUT YOUR FUCKING JACOBS OFF", "I love that director, it's a shame that Guy Ritchie hasn't made more movies, RocknRolla is up there with my favorites", "Just like with any other animal, you let the blood before cutting. After that it can be relatively clean. Obviously you would not cut the stomach open but keep it intact, so no entrails.", "Reminds me of an ex. 🤔", "That's beautiful.\nHow many people have you fed to your pigs, together?", "We're actually at about plus two as far as net people being brought in or out of this world.", "\n\nI think that this is a bit more disturbing \n\n\n\"On March 10, 2004, the government revealed that Pickton may have ground up human flesh and mixed it with pork that he sold to the public; the province's health authority later issued a warning.\"", "fer ur wut? Hes MAH !!!!", "Just finished the new episode of Fear The Walking Dead and here's a young Morgan. Didn't realize he was British?", "Was that Armando Ianucci in the 2nd clip?!", "It's not in sync wit Eve-olution.", "\"In the quiet words of the virgin Mary,... Come again..?\"", "(The part they're not telling you is they have 8 kids)", "Yes, I think both clips are actually from his show.", "TimeSuck also did an episode on it. It's worth a listen" ]	71	videos	Six Pieces, Sixteen Pigs -- beware of any pig farmer
https://vimeo.com/648164266	/r/videos/comments/qyk7f7/bebop_seinfeld/	[ "Because it makes it seem like it doesn't take itself seriously.", "Holy crap, a laugh track that made something better. I found this to be almost unwatchable garbage, but I would watch it like this. This show makes Death Note love action look brilliant by comparison.\n\nI made it to the second episode and realized how much I hated it.", "lol I would probably finish the series if it had a laugh track like this.", "These comments. It's like I'm in bizarro world.", "The live action remake is so bad it should be considered Culturally Insensitive.", "Ya like bebop jazz?", "I must be weird because I liked it. Seeing Bebop get such hate when a show like Squid Game gets so much love is just weird to me.", "It's so bad it makes you culturally insensitive", "Probably because one is based on something that people like.\n\nTo me you comment sounds like:\n\n>Seeing Deathnote get such hate when a show like Squid Game gets so much love is just weird to me.\n\nIt just isn't as good as the original, or is so different that when people compare it it lacks.\n\nIf it was 100% a new IP, I think it'd still suck, but at least on it's own terms.", "Okay... the laugh track actually makes this really watchable.", "Only if you call shitty over the top acting, bad prop/set design, and poor writing a \"Culture\"", "Who is gonna be the hero and redo the whole season like this and put it on youtube?", "I didn't like it at first. So I went to play video games and left it on in the background. It's actually a pretty decent show if you half ignore it and let yourself get It's supposed to be cowboy bebop. They should have just written it as a new IP and given Cho less ridiculous hair and it would have been a success", "I cannot think of two shows as different as Cowboy Bebop and Squid game", "Did we watch the same video? This looks fucking awful", "I really would have preferred to not have known this live action got made.", "yeah, well wait till you see the actual version.", "I didn't know people didn't like this. Doesn't look too bad to me. Different taste i suppose\n.", "fucking awful is 100% more watchable", "I liked it.\n\nThe unwatcheable stuff from the nerd brigade is a bit annoying because it's oriented on shit that doesn't matter from neckbeard's who complain about bullshit like pointy elbows.\n\nWhat does matter is that they completely changed the plot significantly.", "It’s your typical vocal minority of shitheels. See also Star Trek, Star Wars, or any other show with a fandom who is borderline fanatical and evil.\n\nI thought they did a great job and I have loved Bebop since It’s first Adult Swim airing.", "Neither bebop or rocksteady were in that. That's some bullshit", "Definitely. It’s a good revisit/rebuild of Cowboy Bebop. Watch it for its own merits and not as a 1:1 copy of the anime (although the homages and callouts are awesome).", "Squid game is based on / heavily borrows from Kaiji - also a manga / anime.", "I love the OT acting it make the show feel like a cartoon.", "I'd rather watch the avatar remake", "woah woah woah lets not get too crazy here", "Einfield", "Thank you.", "See that completely doesn’t sell it for me.\n\nWhat you just said to me, was it’s not better or even rewarding, It’s different. It’s just a different interpretation and it’s not as good.\n\nLike listening to a band cover a song and it just not being as good. It’s going to be compared and that will ultimately ruin the experience. Even if it’s played well.\n\nDo you know what a good remake is? When you take a bad or mediocre film and elevate it. You update the special effects. Flesh out characters more. Give it a better budget.\n\nThe Thing, The Fly, Scarface, Dune, Lord of the Rings, The Blob all had that in common. It was something before, and it was elevated with respect and creativity that made it better.\n\nThis is completely wrong in every aspect.", "That’s actually one of the worst ways to sell a show.\n\n“If you don’t watch it it’s good.”", "Was squid game based on an award winning and cultural phenomena that people would compare it to? Or was it just a fun show that came out of nowhere.\n\nBecause Bebop is a masterpiece annnnd this live action is a tonal train wreck.", "Have you seen the original anime? From what I’ve read:\n\n\\- If your answer is no, it’s a flawed, yet mildly enjoyable show that is harmless but doesn’t really set the universe on fire. So maybe? Give the anime a shot though.\n\n\\- If your answer is yes, well Jet Black is great, Spike is ok as well, and Ein is a good dog. The ship(s) are spot on. As for the rest…just give the anime a shot. Again.", "> Star Trek, Star Wars, or any other show with a fandom who is borderline fanatical and evil.\n\n\nExpecting respect for source material is evil. Got it.\n\nGet help. Or just enjoy your schlock. Fine by me, I already have a good series to watch, remakes can't fuck that up :)", "well whats your view on dogshit as a cinematic experience?", "Giddy-up!", "There's never going to be a live action anime adaptation that lives up completely to the anime. It's a fun watch but there's no gun to your head. If Lord of the Rings is your bar for live action anime just skip em, it's fine.", "If you ignore the anime and realize that the live action show is it's own thing, it's not too bad ..", "or just make an something original FFS", "seriously, there is nothing evil about not liking a tv show lol", "Upvote because boobs.", "Fair and respectful. I like Cho, but it seems like he talked to someone who watched the show. \n\nJet's actor (I can't recall name at time of writing) sounds like he watched the show and does a good job. Faye was more faithfully represented by (long live) Man-Faye.\n\nIt honestly feels like watching a High School production at times. \n\nDeserving of two Hercules \"disappointed\" rating.", "Yea it's a fun watch. Wtf did people expect from live action anime. I'd wager half the salty folks are the same ones who harassed the actress who plays Faye for not wearing the 1:1 costume, bunch of cringe nerds.", "The music is good!! And that’s all I have to say about that.", "It's 7/10. It's reallllllyyyy hard to bring an anime to live action. And for what its worth, I feel like they did a pretty good job with this. They tried to keep a lot of the original storylines and not stray too far; which I like. As others have said, Jet is good. Spike I like too, I'm not sure what people wanted. I think the actor does a good job at it. I think everyone just cannot unhear Spikes ENG dub voice actor. But I think Spike is enjoyable. Faye and Vicious i'm not a fan of. Faye's personality feels realllly forced. You know when you met someone who is just trying too hard to be cool or against the grain? Like it feels like they're faking it too hard. She gives off that vibe. Vicious on the other hand doesn't really promote a sense of fear. He is very emotional in this adaption and doesn't come off as cold/calculating. He comes off as straight out comical/comedic relief in a few scenes. Also haven't been a fan of Julia. She also feels forced. There's just in general quite a few characters where those who are playing them feel like they're trying to hard to force a personality. I think in combination with their writing (some of which you can see in this scene). Like I'm also not a fan of the portray of Jet's wife.\n\nThe sound, environment, and atmosphere is amazing. There are some really good side characters that pop up here and there. They kept the jazzy sound track. You can tell they were going for this old school jazz detective noir + a bit of buddy cop; and overall I think they accomplish that.\n\nSo yeah I recommend a watch. It wont blow your mind; but its a fun watch.", "I like how your comment could go either way. Are the bizarro comments the ones praising it or saying it's bad.", "Squid Game had good cinematography, a fresh take on an old premise, good acting (minus the dogshit acting from the rich old white dudes), believable/relatable characters,good pacing, and excellent tension. \n\nIt wasn’t a masterpiece, but it was a well built and captivating show. It had flaws, but the good aspects definitely outweighed the bad. \n\nBebop has… well… uhh… not good dialogue… middling effects in some parts/great effects in others, Slow as shit fight choreography, terrible acting from two of the leads- You can tell Jet is really trying his best, and does a good job. It’s just a strange experience compared to its source material.", "This is correct. Spike talks too much, does too little. Jet totally carries this show. Far too much time wasted on non-canon backstory that kills all mystery and emotional intensity. The sad notes of all the mains and criminals of this deperate set of worlds are lost in this rendition. \n\nTry it again, with *feeling.", ">It’s your typical vocal minority of shitheels.\n\n\"Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a shitheel\". [Nice take captain.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-abGTw2sSk)", "My issue is I can't understand why in all of Asia the producers couldn't find a woman with chicken legs. WTF", "https://i.imgur.com/gThHxjh.gifv", ">What does matter is that they completely changed the plot significantly.\n\nTHIS. And the tone isn't right. The anime had a respect for it's weekly guest characters' mindsets and fate that this live-action does not convey and tries its best to totally ignore. The whole vibe of human life is lost in the NETFLIX show, and I think people pick up on that real quick.\n\nIt's not \"Bebop\", it's \"generic bums in space\"", "No the problem is someone trying to elevate the live action lord of the rings. The Hobbit called, and it proved my point.\n\nThey shouldn’t have taken something so beloved and tried to make it better.", "Why did they do this to my beloved anime? I'll never forgive you for this Netflix", "I'm rewatching the original series as I type because I couldn't make it through the first episode of netflix's version. If this video was how the show was I would still be watching the new one.", "All these interactions are pretty in-character. The show may have its' faults, but it's clear they had respect the original.", "You have so much to live for!", ">It honestly feels like watching a high school production at time\n\nGotcha, so a standard Netflix attempt at live action anime", "Look, from what I've read the creators of the live version do respect the original. There seemed to be many ways they were respecting the original. There's a difference between not respecting the origin and not being a good show. Say what you want about the quality and whether it's up to par, but I think they were respectful.", " The technical part of the filmmaking process is really good. The creative part, like for example the dialogue, is horrific.", "> that is harmless\n\nAlways love it when one of the top three attributes of a show is, \"doesn't actually kill you.\"", "I totally agree with this. I watched the whole dang thing and... I don't think it's that bad. It's dumb, it's has some pretty weird acting decisions, it's writing is kind of all over the place. But it loves the source material (probably too much), it's got some good fight scenes, and I think the kind of music video lighting really works for it. It's not a bad way to spend a weekend binging something", "no.", "Based on something that people like that is also one of the greatest anime of all time. And it's not bad just because it's bad. It's bad because it misses the point at every single turn. An eight episode chore.", "That is what we simpletons call \"paid promotion\"", "I’d rather watch the m.night shamalan last air bender.", "I love cowboy bebop, but I think 'cultural phenomenon' should probably only be used to describe something like Harry Potter or star wars.", "I would watch this", "People are so desperate for new content that they find this watchable? This is low budget gutter trash (even ignoring the anime completely.", "Unpopular opinion:\nI've been enjoying it, and I think it's a great adaptation. \n\nDownvote away, space cowboy", "Video is not rated. Log in to watch", "Holy shit...i think i just creamed I love bebop", "And that's all thanks to netflix actually getting Yoko Kanno and The Seatbelts to do the soundtrack. Probably the best thing to come out the live action is more cowboy bebop jazz.", "This is the first I'm seeing of it, and it just makes me kinda glad I stopped giving Netflix money already.", "I want you to look for anime best of lists and come back and tell me how many times it’s listed as number 1 or at least on the top 5. Because it’s gonna appear more than you think.\n\nGo to the wiki and just look at the legacy it carries.\n\nBecause as far as Anime goes, and I mean just anime, not toys, or aimed at children. But strictly anime, it’s almost always #1.\n\nYou’ve got Pokémon, Dragon Ball, Neon Genesis, Attack on Titan etc. that made tons of money. But Critically speaking Cowboy Bebop has endured for 20+ years as top or near the top.\n\nGundam for example makes tons of money from the toys, but has never been really a critical hit as a show. People like the action and the toys are cool. Pokémon had cool cards and fun games but the shows are just who cares. Money does not make a masterpiece of art.\n\nCowboy Bebop did so much right and it did it without games or toys or twist endings/dragging soap opera beating a horse to death plots.", "i enjoyed this. haven't watched the actual show yet, because i'm afraid it will ruin one of my favorite things\n\nso yeah, sounds great", "doesn't it already kinda seem like it knows its super goofy?", "When can we expect the deepfake audio dub to change their voices to match the anime's english dub?", "Yeah, the acting really does come off as completely flat most of the times. \n\n> Far too much time wasted on non-canon backstory that kills all mystery and emotional intensity.\n\nThis is another huge issue, and really makes me feel like the movie was made by Cowboy Bebop fanatics, instead of people who really understood what makes Bebop's characters seem interesting throughout the show. \n\nI was [reading an interview](https://www.polygon.com/interviews/22772957/cowboy-bebop-voice-cast-actors-best-episodes) with the English voice-actors of the anime. In it Steve Blum (who voices Spike) said his favorite episode was Cowboy Bebop the Movie because, well here's the whole quote:\n\n>\"There was a moment in the Cowboy Bebop movie, when Spike and Electra were in a jail cell and he had to actually access his pain and his vulnerability. And that felt like the missing element to Spike. I knew there was something in there and it was alluded to throughout the series. But that was when I really zeroed in on exactly who he was. What the genesis of that pain was, that underlying sadness, and that confusion that he seemed to walk through life with. It made everything else gel and it made me have to go back and actually revisit what had been done before. I almost wish I had that insight from the very beginning.\"\n\nThe thing I took away from that quote was that it demonstrates how little we are told about these characters throughout the show, and loved it. That lack of information makes us interested in learning more, and is a big part of what makes the characters so compelling. Sure, writers still need to sprinkle in background details as the show goes on, and yes, it does help to have the character completely fleshed out behind the scenes in the writers room. But spoon-feeding this information to viewers before they can figure out for themselves that they're actually interested in those details is just a writer's version of premature ejaculation. \n\nFans of the original anime figured out they loved these characters without all the backstory. I feel like the show only jams it in there in an attempt to explain to those familiar with the anime that these characters are different. I think the characters _do_ need to be different, and I think they made some smart moves with Faye and some really idiotic moves with Julia. But the anime taught us everything we needed to know about the character with an absolute minimal view on their backstory. That the Netflix series felt it necessary to include new, made-up details just really broadcasts what kind of amateur hour of a show it is and how little they really understood what made the original so special.", "It isn't bad enough to ruin the original. \n\nThere's just this weird mix of \"shot-for-shot remake\" right next to \"we fucked off and did something completely different\". The fight scenes are weirdly artificial too. Like a series of set pieces and in between each one they pose for the camera.", "It's awful and people saying otherwise have bad taste.", "What’s funny about people saying this makes the show more watchable….\n\nA) this scene was exactly written as a comedy conversation. The laugh track didn’t ‘turn’ it into a sitcom scene.\nB) The reason it makes it better is cause it punctuates the jokes. The performances literally didn’t change. It’s just a show of why laugh tracks exist at all.", "Low budget?\n\nI've only watched the first episode, but it looks to me that, whatever your opinion of the show, they threw a ton of money at it.", "I personally didn't mind the show, however I stopped watching at the Pierrot LeFou episode. I just couldn't handle the changes they made in the live action at that point.\n\nI just don't understand why waste money making a live action series of an already great anime, even you know your hands are tied because of your budget? The ships are spot on, but I'm on episode 8 and haven't seen Jet's ship yet!", "holding up a thrashed Talking Sally doll* \n\n\"I don't think she can notice.\" \n\nUgh.", "I made it 10 mins into the first episode, saw it was 50mins and immediately thought \"I can't do this, Netflix fucked up like usual.\" Then watched Gladiator to remind myself there are worse things that can happen in life.", "That is a spot on summation.", "I watched the first episode tonight and immediately just went back to the original. It's not necessarily bad. They're trying to mimic the anime and they're just not equal. There are a few jokes in it that are meant for fans of the original, and the casting seems pretty good, but nothing beats Steve Blum as Spike. The very little that I saw of Vicious was INCREDIBLY cringe.", "I love it.", "You can legitimately use a bidet to wash your feet, it's not only for you asshole. And it's also for your genitals.", "I am watching it now and I think that is really great. I hope they keep going.", "This is fucking dog shit", "Ohh how very contrarian of you.", "Yes, I am at episode 7 and it is pretty good so far", "Wait, this isn't from Netflix? It's fan made?! Holy shit how bad is the actual show?", "Indeed, amazing effects, costumes(mostly), sets. Shame they couldnt spare some for the writers.", "Me too", "Yeah dont say things you can't unsay", "I just watched E01. Great show", "How do I log into my watch?", "Apparently", "Gesundheit", "\"It's a good show. Also, it's dumb of you to have expected it to be good, of course it's bad, it's a live action anime. Lastly, half the people who have seen the show (minus the small minority that liked it) tweeted Faye about her costume. I am in junior high.\"", "The editing and dialogue are straight out of a sitcom and feel more natural with a laugh track.", "Cowboy bebop is masterful storytelling through the medium of anime. Those other shows are not. Pokémon and DragonBall are basically the same thing every episode (kinda like the og fist of the north star). Cowboy bebop was narrative with a solid team of like minded artists given relative creative freedom. It was, in essence, a passion project. \n \nThats why it appears on those lists and... I dunno, sailor moon doesn't.", "The writing is so poor that it still feels low budget", "> good pacing\n\ndude, everyone I've watched it agreed that it felt like the show could have done it with 2 eps less.", "Thank you! Maybe ill like bebop cause squid games was one of the most thoughtlessly derivative shows ive ever watched that the medias told me was great.", "Yes. But it's called Firefly.", "I watched the first episode and here are some thoughts:\n\nOpening scene is like the Wish version of the Cowboy Bebop Knocking on Heaven's Door opening scene.\n\nThey didn't do the full bell peppers and beef bit. It seemed like an inside joke/reference for those who watched the anime. Spike apparently does Wing Chun and not Jeet Kune Do now.\n\nThey changed the details regarding the Asimov/Katarina story. Katarina is now the daughter of some rich guy and also has a bounty on her head. She wants to leave for Mars to \"remember what it was like when she first saw it as a kid.\" She originally had never been to Mars but had heard stories and wanted to build a better life for her and Asimov. That moment when Katarina almost dies and Asimov was more concerned about the vials of Bloody Eye was missing. It was a major part of the episode, when she just stares at him for a moment, after just narrowly avoiding death. It kinda ruins the poignant moment in the og end when Katarina decided to kill Asimov because she had a moment of realization.\n\nAlso, there was a subtle hint of romance between Spike and Katarina that wasn't present in the anime. He was flirty, sure, but I don't recall him ever pointing out any similarity between her and Julia.\n\nAlso, Faye gets introduced here for some reason. Maybe the actress wanted more screentime so they decided to introduce her early. Her character is ok, but the way she acts in the Netflix version is not how I would have imagined. Faye was more coy and cunning, but in the live action, Pineda seemed to go with a more direct, playful, spunky direction. Nothing wrong, just different.\n\nJet was the best recreation of the original. I think him having semi/auto rifles seemed off character. He was police, not military. I get they wanna try to modernize the characters, but him and Spike sticking to handguns in the og made it feel like a Western. I did not care for his family life backstory.\n\nSpike's decent. Could be more smooth and less talkative. And not do Wingchun.\n\nThey could've gone the noir route instead of the quirky action route in directing.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nedit: Some criticism I have against live action remakes is if they want to redo a whole episode, they should at least get the plot right and follow the original characters' motivations and whatnot. If they chose to make a whole new episode that had no ties to the original, it wouldn't be an issue if they chose to stray from the original. However, the fact that they redid the first episode and got so much wrong doesn't sit right with me. To those who say you can't really compare it to the og, I say they shouldn't have tried to redo the whole episode and they should have done side adventures or a spin off series.\n\ntldr; All in all, 5/10. Not bad, not good. If you're a fan, you'll find issues with how they handled it. If you haven't seen the anime, you'll have a decent time watching it. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.", "I see why it's sitting at a 50%", "You rang, Krang?", "Im having a blast with it. The tone is there, it really does feel like you're watching a live action anime. They changed some story elements so come in knowing that not everything is going to be the same. The actor that plays Vicious is kinda... not great, but don't take it too seriously and you'll have a great time.", "That's a good way of describing Faye's acting. It's like she went for that quirky/spunky modern action woman stereotype. I felt her original personality was more coy and cunning because of her past.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI think they could've done a little better with the atmosphere. The camerawork and directing seemed a little Tarantino-ish. I would've liked the poignant moments to be properly built up to. I was hoping for some bits of noir to be included, but unfortunately...\n\nThey didn't play adieu/goodnight Julia in the scene where they show the falling rose. That was a disappointment. However, I did like the soundtrack and was satisfied with how they modified some of the songs.", "Some people seem to go in for that in terms of entertainment; or as I like to think of it \"don't let the ennui get to you while you while away time before death\"", "I liked it.", "What the fuck is this? Is this from the show, aside from the laugh track?", "I haven't watched it yet and the comments and this scene aren't reassuring which is especially disappointing because the actors themselves seems like they were perfectly cast(though John Cho is at the point he is looking his age) for the part and feels like the direction aspect is what failed.", "> Far too much time wasted on non-canon backstory that kills all mystery and emotional intensity. \n\nThat's not how canon works.", "It's not the worst, but I just finished it like half an hour ago. They make some serious departures from the anime with characters and major plot points. It feels like a producer paid half attention to Cowboy Bebop and thought: \n\n\"I should make my own live action version!\"\n\nSome of it is very well done spot on to the show. No one was asking for a 1:1 remake, but most of it just left me scratching my head, like why would they pace it this way.\n\nIf you haven't seen the anime I think it could be a campy entertaining watch. If you have, and thought the second episode was too much in the way of changes...it gets worse.", "I'd be more ok with the visuals if every other scene didn't abuse dutch angles", "I love when Faye comes on screen it's like something straight outta Seinfield. Made me LOL hard.", "that was too perfect as seinfeld; is this edited or straight from the show?", "Yeah they fumbled the ending a bit and dragged it on, but it wasn’t terrible. I’ve seen way bigger fuck ups to the ending of shows than that", "I liked it the more they changed it because it allowed me to compare it less to the original. The first episode did a lot of shot-for-shot stuff that didn't look very good in the final product.", "I'm watching it with the same mindset as Tank Girl or the first MK movie and that makes it much better.", "Honestly, this post is just an huge insult to the show Seinfeld.", "That's not fair, they haven't released that one yet[.](https://i.imgur.com/QNyk8hh.jpg)", "No, it is a good show,. Folks are mad its not the \"masterpiece\" the anime is to them. The small loud minority here that are over the top \"omg it's so bad111!!\" 100% are the same losers mad Rey is a Skywalker.", "the technical is impressive? The cgi look almost decade old sometimes and then looks legit something and the lighting feels like a comemrcial.", "Am I going to regret googling Dutch angles ?", "I am so grateful for this post and all the comments. Saved myself a heartache.", "I have some major issues with the show, but I am with you, that seems like a nitpicky complaint to me.", "I tried but the more I try to like it as distinct from the original, the more things I find to hate about it", "Vicious just came off weird, not scary.\n\nAnd they made Faye a potty mouthed stereotype.", "How can I tell you subsist on mcdonalds and marvel films", "I understand for the sake of comedy that the laugh track has been added here. But removing that, and just focusing on the dialogue and direction, I understand the hate I’m hearing about this reboot. The style of the anime doesn’t translate to live action and the show is trying to force it.", "If you look at it as a long string of parodies the show makes a lot more sense.", "In response to my misreading of your comment, I would definitely watch a remake of They Live! as an action series which should be considerably culturally insensitive. But! It should be from the perspective of other's than the immortal Keith David, and departed St Piper. There just no reason to revisit a story arc that's already perfect.", "Yes, it’s good in that the cinematography is great and so is the pacing. The dialogue is a bit clunky but it was also clunky in the anime…", "The cgi looks better than 99% of Netflix cgi. For its budget I can’t fault it", "You nailed it.", "no\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9FUEScjB1U", "No man this falls in the \"terrible trough\" where it isn't fabulously bad like Shammylane's Avatar or the Dragonball live action. It's not bad enough to be good, just bad enough to be repulsive.\n\nAwful casting, completely wrong", "Look, real talk here, sometimes all I've got the mental energy for is the television/movie equivalent of junk food. That's not what I always want, but well done junk serves a purpose too.", "No", "No? If you're asking if it's some kind of dirty slang, then no. The only reason you might regret it is if you go so deep into a rabbit-hole of wanting to learn more about it that you end up watching Battlefield Earth, which infamously used Dutch angles in almost every scene. Then you might come back here in anger blaming Reddit for sending you down a path that led to Battlefield Earth.", "Right emotional intensity. \n\nHow the \"Pregnant girl\" made spike think of Julia, than we see she isn't Pregnant but only hididng the red eye.\n\nIn the original they showed us the intensity, and hid the reveal till the end. And that reveal screen in the original with the redeye streaming out and across the rekage in the black of space was something. That shot in this show was like 2 seconds no close ups? No emotional intensity. Its like the old film adage. Show don't tell. \nThey seem to be doing it alot.\n\nI haven't finished the season yet so I was gonna hold back criticizing it. But m observations as of yet", "Gotta know your target audience.", "how does one disgust one with no taste?\n\ntruly a conundrum lads", "The whole voting to leave and then literally every single one of them coming back was like... eh?", "So, like most anime.\n\nEdit: sorry, but most anime dialogue is cringey, doesn't mean you can't enjoy it lol.", "Just finished all ten episodes. I don't think the creators really understood the source material based on how they chose to adapt. Writing is very poor, with the final episode having an \"inspired\" choice in narrative direction that did not sit well with me at all. Your mileage may vary, as some seem to be enjoying the series. But I don't think we should be rewarding mediocrity.", "that's nutbags", "> Faye's personality feels realllly forced. You know when you met someone who is just trying too hard to be cool or against the grain? Like it feels like they're faking it too hard. She gives off that vibe.\n\nI dunno I kind of get the impression that it's intentional from the little I see while barely remembering the original, like she's meant to be nervous and overcompensating as excessively tough.", "This is awesome...the show seems much better this way", "In context this was a pretty funny scene, you know who this Jet is by that episode and it fits.", "Based", "Yup. No laugh track. They twisted the story. I’m done with four episodes tonight. There are some random times (mainly first episode) they follow the story but the rest is twisted and arranged strangely.\n\nMy take: only interested to see how it ends up but frankly disappointed in how they twisted the story. Oh and Jet feels believable for his character. Fayes ok. Felt like they overcooked her attitude.", "I really appreciate you preventing someone from having that tragic experience.", "> I think everyone just cannot unhear Spikes ENG dub voice actor\n\nwait people are being snobbish about comparing it to the original DUB? Yikes, talk about wannabe hipsters. SUB or GTFO.", "This Netflix Cowboy Beebop is just TERRIBLE. Same as the Netflix Death Note they did (bootlegged both). JUST STOP TRYING TO MAKE THESE CLASSIC ANIME SHOWS LIVE ACTION, NETFLIX (unless youre really really really really gonna put a huge fucking budget behind it (not even major Hollywood studios can do it right))", "ed ed ed ed ed ed", "As far as I've able to tell, this show is aimed at those people who love modern superhero cinema, like the marvel movies. Juvenile humor every 30 seconds, over the top action, doesn't take it self too seriously. Not my cup of tea, so I think I'll just pass.", "however not Cowboy Bebop", "Doing God's work", "You know, some people really just want their steak well done and smothered in A1. I will never understand them but I accept their right to life. I just hope they have their own theatre on the other side of town.", "Bro you just gave me a headache reading the name Battlefield Earth, never again", "People hating on it probably hated the speed racer movie as well.", "so because its inspired by a manga/anime, theyre not that different? thats like saying paddington and saw are not that different, theyre both movies after all. \n\nwhen you do a live action remake of one of the greatest animes of all time, the comparison should be that anime and not some random netflix show that happens to be popular right now but is not at all similar. and you bet expectations are really high considering its one of the greatest animes of all time. the only part that seems somewhat up to the animes quality is jet, everything else is just not up there. \n\nits cool if you like the show but it doesnt live up to the anime, not even close. my favourite character radical ed literally only has a 2 minute scene in the entire season.", "watch a movie based on a book by the guy who came up with scientology?\n\nnot likely.\n\nI made the mistake of buying it in an airport to read on a long flight because I didnt know that factiod.\n\n2 hours in I tossed it into the trash.", "and everyone agrees that this live action version of cowboy bebop is completely unneccessary. maybe leave the masterpiece of an anime alone, they were never ever going to live up to the fans expectation of one of the greatest animes of all time.\n\nwhy the hell are you guys even comparing it to squid game? it should obviously be compared to its source material and very obviously falls flat.", "Why the fuck did they need to give him a daughter?", "Well people would have asked, \"Why didn't they just vote to leave?\" And they fully explored that possibility.", "There is a good ping pong back and forth between the three main characters. Definitely", "what is this dialogue", "How come nobody in this industry seems to be any good at what they're doing anymore.", "And the costumes look like cosplay, and the cinematography is either flat or abusing action shots with no artistic eye whatsoever, and choreography shows just how bad things can go when trying to imitate animation on film in a 1:1 fashion.\nI don't know where that guy gets the claim that this is a technically competent show.", "They have some good things on still.\n\nLike seinfeld", "From the first 3 eps and what I seen of Vicious he reminds me of Dany's brother from GoT. Vicious is supposed to be an absolute bad ass.", "Ohhhh anime fan complains about a live action remake. How unexpected. Super hot take champ.", "The point was the fear of death scaring them…then they go back and it really sinks in how horrible their lives are to the point that the games and the potential of winning becomes preferable.\n\nFucking hell…", "There are countless times I see the trailer for an anime and think \"Wow, so stylish\" and then watch a few episodes and think \"Oh right, this is why I don't watch anime, it's only stylish\"", "Tap it three times and count backwards from 11.", "Damnit, now I'm going to have to re-watch the new series just to pay attention to the dutch angles. :)", "Seinfeld was never funny.", "Live action Bebop is okay. Like a B- or 7/10. \n\nSome people seem to think that anything short of perfection means it's utter garbage. Those people are why Hollywood only takes the safest, most boring bets.", "Just wait until they're done with Avatar. We'll be looking back at Shyamalan's work with... well, still disdain but you'll dislike the live action Avatar too.", "The last “arc” is terrible compared to the rest of the show. I wouldn’t say it is an issue with pacing as much as it is just bad writing.", "Agree. Also it was weird that they showed them getting shot up instead of just showing the ship being destroyed. Having the red eye capsules hitting the light out in space would have looked great in live action. You lost out on that beat of melancholy and quiet after the hectic chase with Asimov freaking out.", "Beboobs", "I find Marvel a pile of boring nothing and like this show.", "I am definitely a huge fan of the original cartoon. But I am one of those \"Take it for what it is\" types. Didn't go into it with high expectations, but I will watch it all the way through. It's ok...and I'm stretching just to say that. The fight scenes could be better (Shame on you Cho, I know you're better than that), and the acting, save for Jet, was all over the place. Vicious would fit perfectly as a Die Hard movie bad guy. My wife was interested in it, and she's not a fan of anime, so it's got that going for it. The music and Jet will probably be the best things about this adaptation and the end of it all.", "Uh dude Gundam is an absolute phenomenon that has endured since 1979. Maybe it never found worldwide success like Pokémon but it is a thing in Japan. Did you see the life size moving one they made for the games? It’s practically their Mickey Mouse.\n\n[EDIT] For the downvoters, please link me some relevant information about how Gundam is a smaller, less popular, and less impactful 40-year franchise than the one-off Cowbo Bebop. [Notice Gundam has its own page about this.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Gundam)Y'all are stupid.", "Bebop does look pretty though, the cinematographer is doing a pretty good job.\n\n\nKnowing that, probably best if they keep Baldwin off set, you know. Don't let him play any minor characters or nothing.", "200 comments and no mirror? \n\nDid everyone here seriously have a Vimeo account?", "laugh tracks exist for a reason, or at least they used to", "I love Bebop, one of my favourite shows ever, but I agree with above about it not being a \"cultural phenomenon\" \n\nAnime, as hard as people like it, absolutely pales compared to things like Star Wars, which IS a cultural phenomenon. For every 1000 people you ask, maybe 12 will even know what Cowboy Bebop is compared to 900+ knowing who Darth Vader alone is, let alone Star Wars in general. Is is much closer to \"Cult Classic\"", "I recently just rewatched the OG just to compare things in my head while I watched the show and get a refresher on the whole plot.\n\nUnfortunately that also had the side effect of me being unable to separate it as much as I want to from the source material. It'll take time for me. I will say that some of the effects look great and then the next episode they look bad?\n\nAll I'll say is if they wanted to change that much of it, the title should be: \n\nCowboy Bebop:Remix or something so people are prepared it's a new take.", "The dub is held in high regard, apparently the Japanese voice actor had trouble hitting the right tone for Spike. The whole English dub was really well directed, especially for the time.", "I don’t know why anyone would watch it, just another remake, and a live-action adaption at that. Who had any hopes at all for this?", "Jets great, as good as he can be anyway. Everyone/everything else is a sack of shit.", "No it's still pretty embarrassing.", "Note: Faye is fine btw. She was annoying the anime too. Honestly, she is obnoxious in both. Lines decision making etc.", "For that we can always watch music videoclips", "I mean they just had massive back to back hits in Squid Game and Arcane. Both are very good.", "NUTBAGS !!!! LOL !!!!!11", "This “hot take” obsession is so weird. No one is saying they dislike it for clout or shock factor, most people just agree that it kind of sucks. No one is trying to have a “hot take”.", "You're looking in the wrong place if you think the show is responsible for their inability for nuance.", "Oh man the fighting scenes are so pitiful and the costumes really do look like cosplay. Why does jet wear koreaboo contacts", "It makes it more watchable because no one wanted the original to be a sitcom. This edit pushing it entirely into that slot, mockingly so, makes it more bearable than the actual attempt of injecting this energy into a place nobody wanted it to be.\n\nLike I legit think if they had spent all this money, time, and actors on an original series that had this same energy but no brand ties it would have been far more well received.", "Honestly, I half don't pay for it anymore out of principle because they're the neediest ex in existence. Seriously. Cancel your sub some time and watch the daily \"please come back!\" e-mails flood your spam folder.", "Oh. Wow. \nUh hmm. \nSo i shouldn’t watch it? I cringed so hard watching this I think I dilated time.", "The premise and writing of the skit is fine, it's the performances that, once again, don't sell the characters.\n\nEven the news anchor was awful.\n\nEdit: wait, was this the actual show and not an SNL style skit?... holy fuck. Please tell me I'm misinterpreting some of the other comments here!", "https://c.tenor.com/fO4heTRBGGMAAAAC/shut-up-bitch-the-rock.gif", "You're telling me they actually spent money on the voice actors for the dub? They _never_ do that, which is why DUBs almost always universally suck. I remain skeptical.", "Critical acclaim is great, but if the question is cultural phenomenon, you're talking about mainstream popularity.\n\nIf you ask 100 random people walking down the street if they have heard of:\n1. Star Wars\n2. Harry Potter\n3. Pokemon\n4. Cowboy Bebop\n\nHow do you think those numbers are going to stack up?", "\nI’m sad some people are not enjoying the show.\nThe vast majority of comments and reviews online seem to be negative and that’s fine.\n\nBut to that end. I for one am enjoying the show and am glad it exists.", "Well, if it's a direct adaptation then what's \"canon\" would have legs to stand on. But it's clearly not. It has it's own canon.", "Great analysis !", "Agreed on the costumes and cinematography, still enjoying the show very much the writing holds it up", "I’ll never be ever to hate it no matter how bad it gets because NEW MUSIC from YOKO KANNO AND THE SEATBELTS", "ok media zombie. Sorry for interrupting your ceaseless indiscriminate consumption", "And yet reddit showers Internet Points on people complaining about the live action Last Airbender\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/VYwTm98.png", "by harmless, I think he means it doesn't kill the interest. Best example I can think of is GoT season 8.", "Has anyone else noticed how they weirdly pause every fight scene. It's like the actors are trying to remember what comes next.", "Ugh Faye, they replaced her “femme fatale” with “bratty little sister” big time", "I really enjoyed it and thought it was pretty faithful to the anime.", "That show was never as popular as avatar or DragonBall that's why nobody actually cares.", "Inside job is new on Netflix and also a very good show.\n\nIs Arcane enjoyable for someone that never played LOL?", "If you go into it without really thinking it's a faithful cowboy bebop adaptation and then force yourself through the campyness of it all, it's fairly entertaining", "I actively hate league of legends (dota player) and I think Riot is a scummy company but it can't be denied that the show is of insanely high quality. It's very good and I don't know any LoL lore.", "It's different from anime in many ways, but I just find it refreshing. I like it.", ">never as popular as avatar\n\nare you high or just under 20\n\nbebop started American cultural fascination with anime. Literally the watershed event", "I thought the dialogue was just fine for the style of content.", "Yes, it's fucking awesome. \n\nPeople expect too much these days.\n\nJust chill out relex and enjoy it.", "You don't really need to pay much attention as they are in almost every scene. There might even be more tilted than straight shots overall.", "> trying to mimic the anime\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/RcwKC4b.mp4", "Avatar subreddit 1M \nCowboy subreddit 300k\n\nNobody cares, the original show wasn't even remotely as good. It's just an old ass anime and some have an nostalgia boner. When you want to watch a good anime from that time watch neon Genesis.", "MAKE IT STOOOOOP T\\_T", "Ok ty I'll give it a shot.", "The new version of tank seems… lesser somehow.", "https://i.imgur.com/FRfYYkK.png", "Nothing can ruin the original after the fact. \n\nBut its kind of sad to see how they somehow didn't understand the feel of the source material.", "not at all", "Enjoying the show so far. The only thing I hate is Vicious. His look and everything just make me cringe.", ">child logic\n\n>child preferences\n\nshhhshshshsh just go floss and play some fortnight you don't know what you're saying young one", "because people will just watch straight garbage? why try/take risks?", "They are? It feels like they've decided that Dutch angles are the \"it\" thing and won't stop using them. I wouldn't call the cinematography good so much as occasionally acceptable.", "Mate I'm probably older than you.\n\nI just tried to rewatch the anime before the show gets released. It's mediocre and boring.", "I'm okay with giving him a daughter, I'm not okay with what they do with it. The writing is just horrible.", "Were you hoping it was going to be an exact live action remake of the anime?", "I dunno why the original guy compared it to squid game. I was just pointing out that squid game was a decent show. This show is not. \n\nThat’s why it’s getting shit on lol. As a stand-alone show, it’s not that good. As an adaption of a beloved source material, it’s not good either.", "The Netflix show is the “Tenchi Universe” to Cowboy Bebop’s “Tenchi Muyo!”\n\nA variation on a theme that’s both refreshingly different and familiar at the same time.", "Not really.", "Wow suuuuurely not?😬😬", "Doesn't make him wrong, though.", "What? Wtf?", "big oof", "Should have watched the Netflix adaptation of Death Note to remind you of worse things.", "Do you watch dubbed or subbed? There are plenty of well written animes, they are just hidden behind all the mainstream children's ones. Also most dubbed animes dumb down the dialogue. Things like \"mushishi\" and \"the 86\" are two more recent ones I can think of. Also \"monster\" is very good.", "Uncommon opinion but I thought the show was pretty good.\n\nTo give some context I've watched the anime and movie I'm also a fan of live action anime adaptations that come from Japan. (If you haven't seen the kenshin movies you should check them out). I am not a film student or critic just a big ol nerd\n\nThe bad:\n\nThe early fight scenes seem really clunky or too slow when they're doing martial arts. One of my friends suggested the camera trick where you speed up the footage during action.\n\nViscious' dev/character arc\n\nWhat (as a fan of the series) felt was excess or unneeded backstory/lore \n\nDuring the red eye episode dude didn't say \"yeah...keep those eyes open...\"\n\nHonorable mention - I love that the show takes the event of the series and put them in their own order. It a new variant of something I know and enjoy. Why I put this in negative is my fear that Netflix will begin adding more of their own story between those cannon event of the series and the nods to the series will become less frequent until its an original Bebop Story. (This is admittedly just a personal concern)\n\nThe good:\n\nJet's dev/arc\n\nFaye's dev/arc\n\nJulia's dev/arc\n\nNear constant nods to not only the series but the movie.\n\nThe music is fantastic!\n\nTHE BANTER!!!!!\n\nAna's bar", "What do people get out of live action adaptation? Do they not want to see the original? Do they think its more \" realistic \" and thus more \" mature \" than watching something like an anime?", "how about actually watching the dub instead of having a hilariously strong but unfounded opinion?", "Oh Christ. I'm glad I stopped before getting to this lol", "You could lushly be describing the GitS movie with this. Apparently we don't learn from our mistakes.", "Only out of morbid curiosity, and even then it's really painful.", "But maybe.", "Jesus, this is fucking terrible. Not even in sitcom form does it make it better. God, whoever greenlit this should be fired. I didn't even enjoy the original Cowboy Bebop, and I'm still offended. Good god.", "> And that reveal screen in the original with the redeye streaming out and across the rekage in the black of space was something. That shot in this show was like 2 seconds no close ups? No emotional intensity. Its like the old film adage.\n\nYep, that EXACT shot was botched so hard in the live action that solidifies my feeling that the editing was just terrible in them.\n\nLike it went from getting shot by cops -> suddenly debris flying -> Spike staring empty, all in the span of like 5 seconds because why???? YOU GOT MORE RUNTIME THAN THE ORIGINAL. USE IT!", ">\tSo, like most anime.\n\nExactly. Anime character banter is as cheesy/cringy but most fans excuse it because the visual medium is what draws them into the story/scenario in the first place. \n\nIn fact, the Netflix show does a better job of filling in the gaps of what life on the Bebop must have been like. YES there are some character changes/fleshing out and that’s to be expected. \n\nThe show does right by the source material and has fun with parts that is the viewer never got to see in the Anime. People want to shit on Netflix Vicious, yet we know nothing of OG Vicious’s past. The Netflix show takes the liberty to explore what Vicious and Julia had been up to for the 22 some odd episodes that they didn’t show up in. True they take creative liberties and that’s OK because this is an adaptation/remake. \n\nThink FFVIIR to FFVII.", "Everyone involved in this should be banned from making any form of media ever again.\n\nI mean the Netflix show, no the Bebop Seinfeld stuff.", "> so a standard Netflix attempt at live action anime\n\nWell they can go from that, to something like Death Note. So they have range, from absolute dogshit to very mediocre.", "Holy crap you're being all high and mighty while saying something you haven't even seen is shit, that's hilarious", "It's awful when you compare it to the anime. That's the problem with anime adaptations. You have these gatekeepers who want something that is better than the source material so anything less is disappointing and not worth watching. That's why every live-action anime fails. Copy the anime too much and it's unoriginal. Deviate too much with an original plot and you've missed the point of the anime. There's no way to win.\n\nFrom what I've seen, if you review it as a standalone show, it's decent to good. A fun watch that might lead some people to give the anime a shot.", "There is no need to see this piece.\r \nLet's watch k-drama.\r \nDramas made by Koreans are the best.\r \nThere is no need to waste your time in America.", "I felt the whole point of the original was these characters who are disconnected from everyone for various reasons, going it alone in a vast solar system, were thrust together and reluctantly learned to form a connection. Giving Jet a family from the start completely undermines that.", "In this case it would be Xenu's work, would it not?", "That makes 9 of you.", "I thought the dialogue in this scene was pretty funny, so to each their own I guess", "That was wonderful and a good twist on the “trapped in a life or death game” set up. \n\nIt’s harder to relate to and ground characters who are suddenly trapped and decide to just be evil and start player killing. Squid game humanizes even the shittiest characters after seeing what their normal life is like- they have no hope, nothing left, and no way out of their normal life. So you know what? Facing a life or death decision isn’t that bad since they’re probably gonna die or be tortured in the real world too. \n\nAnd up until that point, they don’t know they will have to kill each other. They only know that the games will kill the players. They are under the impression that multiple people can walk away with the money. In fishing terms, the players bit onto the hook at first when agreeing to come to the game. But by letting them all leave the host set the hook.\n\nAnd then, well, after the second game (which is still player vs game) they made it this far, they might as well keep going… that’s a lot of money after all. And then oh… players can be eliminated between games? Well shit, Might as well take out a few. \n\nSo we, the viewer, can see a logical progression to how the players would go from thinking in terms of “I gotta escape!” to “I’m gonna die out here anyway, might as well play,” to “I might as well kill some people since they are gonna die in here anyway.” \n\nIt’s also really a good commentary on how opportunity inequality and the failures of society create many of the criminals out there.", "I mean you can't really accurately critique Avatar yet. It could literally end up being...just fine. Not great, terrible, etc. It could be just fine, even despite the negative work environment that made the original show's creators leave. Negative work environments don't dictate quality, sadly.", "As long as you're going into it not expecting a scene for scene remake, it's a fun ride. \n\nSpaghetti neo-noir is how I would describe it, with an excellent soundtrack that you expect from an IP linked to Watanabe.", "Unfortunately, yes.", ">Battlefield Earth, which infamously used Dutch angles in almost every ~~scene~~ shot.\n\nFTFY", "Do you see this cinematography/directing/writing? While the art department and CGI is top fucking tier, the entire rest of it looks like they hired kids straight out of university to make this shit. It absolutely feels low budget, but just so happens to be high budget.", "This is what happens when you hire a writer who's got a great track record for box office hits, while forgetting their biggest film's script was literally thrown out the window and the entirety of that movie was improvised by a director who's infinitely better than that writer you hired. That movie being Thor: Ragnorak btw.", "Given that the original show had 26 episodes when the story was told in ~8 that's just on brand", "Actual show but with a laugh track and the intro/outro, yeah...", ">\tand hid the reveal till the end\n\nThis threw me off a lot in that first episode. The way the writing treated Asimov and Katerina in this show felt so weird. And the ending? With how it changed when and how Asimov died? That was a big moment for showing where Katerina was at as a person, especially after having bonded a bit with Spike before they realize he’s after them.\n\nAdditionally, the way they introduced Faye in the anime was so much more fun and interesting, we get an immediate tidbit of mysterious backstory teasing for her and character building to show her skills outside of guns; rather than having her just show up as some rival bounty hunter/oddjobber who crosses paths with Spike and Jet because she was after Julia. That said, she is probably the only character I’ve enjoyed watching in this live action show.\n\nThere’s so many missteps in this show and its unfortunate because you can tel the creators are actually fans, but they just don’t seem to understand that you can’t make an anime as fantastical as bebop live action without tweaking a lot of aspects.", "Very Kramer-esque", "I refuse to watch anything but Dutch angles porn anymore", "What episode is this?", "...what?? How does this at all make any logical sense? Just because they're based off a similar type of media, doesn't mean that 1. the original medias are at all similar in style and 2. the remakes of said media are at all similar in style. \n\nI genuinely don't understand y'all's brains and how they function in the slightest.", "She looked like female kramer in this video lmfao", "I mean, you can watch Battlefield Earth with the [RiffTrax](https://www.rifftrax.com/battlefield-earth) commentary. It makes it a little more tolerable. Still a tough one to sit through.", "It’s really good imo", "It’s just a show man lol.", "Well now we know why Ed wasn’t in any of the promotional material. Yikes.", "No, the fact that the live action version of Cowboy Bebop insults the original is why people hate it. Also, the dialogue is horrendous, and the writing/directing is genuinely some of the worst I've seen willingly. It is not a B-, at best it's a C (solely being held up by the art department and CGI, and some of the characters), which is fine for general audiences. But because it's insulting to the target audience, it absolutely is going to get received a lot worse than if it wasn't a remake in the first place.", "Wait there's a live action cowboy Bebop?\n\n\nI am... Not hopeful.\n\nEdit: wait so it's like this but without the Seinfeld editing. \n\nWow, that doesn't feel like cowboy Bebop at all and I haven't watched it in ages.", "Fuck no", "this is why I can't watch live action adaptions", "Well if they're trying to promote the show they're doing a pretty bad job.", ">\tSpike's decent. Could be more smooth and less talkative. And not do Wingchun.\n\nThe fight scenes feel so rigid with him compared to the smooth flow in the anime and it is jarring to watch, not to mention they do a lot of cuts to try snd show details in the fights and that slows down the scene even further.\n\nAdditionally, Cho’s portrayal feels wrong. Spike in the anime was laidback and confidently aloof. He is literally the opposite of those descriptors. Out of all 3 he is the least like the anime counterparts, and he is the one that they should have gotten locked down right away since his backstory becomes the focus.", "I hope they pick Kramer up from the Laugh Factory.", "As an Asian guy, the fact that they had to cast 50 yo John Cho to act as Spike(late 20's?) is just super sad. \n\nI'm gonna say it, just cuz John cho is like the only sorta A list Asian we have in Hollywood doesn't make him a good actor. I find his performances robotic and generally just bleh. If you watch him in interviews, the dude is so rigid his body language can cut through glass.\n\nThe whole of Hollywood couldn't find a charismatic young Asian actor. Just sad.", "Agreed. I appreciate having some new music, but there was no need to rerecord the title theme.", "From Live Action Bebop, as an original fan, I gotta say, they did extremely well. This whole first season really caught the general atmosphere. A few things are different, but it’s great.", "Anime fans are reliably the worst judges of anime quality.", "Noir / Spaghetti Western / Buddy Cop influences... what did you expect?", "Yeah but people hate new ideas, they don’t realize they just want to watch the same old media over and over lol. Calcifying..", "Wow.\n\nThat's impressively bad.", "They made up a female character just so they could have a lesbian sex scene...smh", "Reading the comments, I think these peeps without peach fuzz are just being edgy. I love Anime Bebop, and I thoroughly enjoyed this series. I’m stoked for the next season.", "Is any Netflix live action adaptation worth watching?", "Yo I've always been team sub due to dubs usually being so shit but after reading about how highly regarded the Bebop dub actually is, I gave it a skeptical shot a few weeks back- and I've got to say it's genuinely fucking fantastic. \n\nJokes I never knew were in there suddenly surfaced and fit in the scene like they'd been there all along- which they had but the sub translation had messed them up! And turns of phrase which had previously read awkwardly in the sub are mostly all adjusted into eloquent repartee. Not to mention the voice acting is actually great too, which honestly blew me away.", "Hardly any Anime can be made live action without some changes, and ALL look like cosplay. Look at anime Fayes clothes……. An actress would be in a bikini if they stayed 100% true to source.", "As an original fan it was incredibly disappointing. The editing and score was good, but the writing, half the acting, and my god the direction was HIDEOUS.", "I don't know... can you repeat the question?", "I feel a little to blame. I typically say anime adaptions probably shouldn't make changes unless they are well reasoned, motivated, or the creators has an extremely confident vision. I should now also always mention that some things need to translated into reality, a hyperactive kid in reality looks different than a hyperactive anime kid.", "not every adaptation is shit, just the vast majority of them. Cowboy Bebop is sadly in the majority.\n\nCrying Freeman or Old Boy for example are allright.", "I think the bidet stuff was almost perfect if they just ended the bit with Spike saying “please tell me you’re talking about the bread”\n\nI think in the anime the joke would be that Jet overly-openly enjoys bidets, while here he doesn’t know what it’s for.", "Amen to that. I hate that shit in Abrams movies and the first Thor movie. I can just imagine Abrams thinking, or even saying out loud, \"So in this shot, we're going to tilt the camera 80 degrees to the right, because of my artistic vision of this shot, because their situation is going sideways and blah blah blah I'm such a genius blah blah man my farts smell really good today blah blah blah.\".", "True enough, it is unfair to judge something when I've not seen a single episode that /might/ prove me wrong. And honestly, I'm always up for being proven wrong when I'm pre-disposed to negativity about it. \n\nI was turned off 'Arcane' due to my overall dislike of League of Legends, but so far 4 episodes in I consider it a decent 7/10 show, possibly an 8 if they maintain through to the end.", "A lot of that comes down to the separation of a couple main categories/genres, shounen and seinen.\n\nShounen is the category that is much more popular and it refers to the target demographic of young boys. You get lots of simplified plots and writing with fantasy characters that over-emote like crazy. Examples are One Piece, Sword Art Online, My Hero Academia, and Naruto. Nothing wrong with enjoying shounen but the writing is not usually it's strength. It does tend to have complex action animation and effects.\n\nSeinen refers to the target demographic of teen to adult males. Still plenty of cringe to sift through but a much better chance of having good writing with unique plots and more mature characters. If you search by Seinen, you'll find anime like Vinland Saga, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and Cowboy Bebop.", "This is literally the only thing that makes this watchable to me. \n\nCan we get someone to do the rest like this?", "is this live or record?", "It's something we all do, and it's hard to catch ourselves doing it. It's always fair to make predictions, not so much assumptions. For instance, Avatar will likely be not end up respecting the original, but I sure hope it does. \n\nAnd yeah I'm about halfway through Arcane myself, it definitely feels like a 7/10 too but very high budget and beautiful tho quite cliche and predictable. I'm surprised to see someone else giving it only a decent score so far myself rather than praising it to death lol", "\"Epic banter\" humor is precisely the same media over and over", "are you new to how hipsterism works? \nAlso 99.9% of dubs suck, I've watched a bit of it now and Faye Valentine's voice actor _is_ shit so my assumption was fair to make. Jet Black and Spike Spiegel are however considerably better than the average.", "The actor's name is Mustafa Shakir and he actually has blue eyes. I thought they were contacts too. The beard is very fake though. I mean, it has to be to match the anime character, so it is what it is.", "because dubs suck, this is a historic universal truism especially when soulless corps would import quality Japanese stuff but devalue it because it \"just a cartoon\" and spend the bare minimum translating it. This has been the common theme since the 80s where boomers thought cartoons were just for kids. Do we really need to bring out the [original disastrous One Piece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WWLkXj-Qa4) port into English to demonstrate the typical issue of the era?\n\nI will say this dub is better than the average but some of the voice acting is still the typical garbage.", "> Mama? \n\n> Mama! \n\n> they're babies!", "So watch the old one they already made, where you know everything and how it happens 😂", "Why is this shot like a BBC comedy? Was this a skit? I decided yesterday never to watch this and now I'm confirming that decision. The lines and the tone don't even feel like the same type of show as the anime. And I don't even want to start my fears of Ed being confirmed. She was the most delicate part of the series that would make or break it. That last scene shows Pippi Long Stocking with tight shorts which Ed is not. They should've had a scene of her sitting in a dump, typing away on her homemade computer from behind. Next shot is through her screen showing the calm sober face she gets after hours online followed by her trademark smile. End scene and now you have time to make sure the acting for Ed is done right. Like have the actors watch the damn series at least three times. Ed's quirks are very specific. This actor seems like they heard about Ed but never actually watched an episode.", "> I don't think we should be rewarding mediocrity.\n\nBut then the Oscars and other awards ceremonies would be out of business.", "That laugh track is way too loud.", "They wanted to cash in that proven Barrett tone. Jet simply being a controlling boyfriend, ex-cop who was betrayed isn't sjw friendly. \nEdit: Looks like several people don't understand how important it is that everyone DOESN'T have anyone but each other. The entire series is centered around it. In the end they're all they have. Giving Jeta daughter shows that the writers don't understand the series.", "Yeah they should’ve cooked the script some more when it comes to certain dialogue. They wanted to remain faithful but sometimes it doesn’t translate well to live action, like Ed in the end and how they tried to keep the over the top anime expressions. I went in expecting a lot of camp and had decent fun with it, the emotional beats just hit harder in the anime.", "Lot of fans of the game, wanting this to be heralded as the new standard of excellence and a piece of of media to be put on Breaking Bad tiers, I get why they're hyped given so many projects with games are... weak. But yeah, it's VERY above average but not quite \"Final Space\" levels for me, but that is all personal taste. That show got me to feel so many feels, more than just laughing at the humour. \n\nFingers crossed for Avatar, but when you already have the perfect example of it, it just makes one ask \"why fix what was never broken?\" Much like Cowboy Bebop. That, I'd much rather have just had them re-draw it like when they re-did FullMetal Alchemist, with Brotherhood. New coat of paint. They could have even kept the old voice files, same voices, new look, job done.", "Out of curiosity. How do you know when it’s the directing that’s bad? I’ve begun to wonder at times if actors come across as bad when really the way they’re told to portray the character is bad. Which, I think, would be directing. This has been bugging me. So I’m latching onto your comment.", "Agreed - the pacing of the dialog and most of the interaction are spot on but then it loses it. Seems like they were very close to capturing the spirit of the show but didn't quite.\n\nAlso Faye seems way too animated and more neurotic than her usual agitated. Also unneeded swearing.", "> final episode having an \"inspired\" choice in narrative direction\n\nOh no, they fucked with the last episode? There's like five episodes you cannot fuck with, that being chief among them.", "Don't you know? [Nobody's Asian in the movies](https://youtu.be/MNmzegQUtFA).", "my issue is faye in the anime still made an attempt to appear feminine and elegant (and frequently fails, to comedic effect, like a cat who misses a jump and eats shit and hopes nobody saw)\n\nlive action faye is just your generic plucky tomboy who wants to be one of the dudes. she's like that annoying girl in anime club.", "My favorite in this scene was \"royale with cheese\" on the menu", "Completely disagree, this was an absolute mess of a production that completely and thoroughly highlights why rebooting an anime as live action is always a bad fucking idea.", "The second I watched this I could instantly see the Seinfeld in it and it worked perfectly, but as it went on I started thinking it's far more like Always Sunny. Shut up, bird.", "didn't click but judging by the pain in other peoples replies, it's the edward clip isn't it, lol\n\nedit: haha yep, not watching, can't do it again", "I am always so scared of live action remakes of amine that I like. It's usually because it feels like a cash grab to take something already created and just do it with real people. And since it's a cash grab, they always do it shitty because who cares. I'm not saying every remake in history has been bad, but most of them are. \n\nI swear, we're going to see live action remakes of Miyazaki films eventually and I already refuse to watch them. It will ruin my memories of them.", "Jazz is chaos.", ">That moment when Katarina almost dies and Asimov was more concerned about the vials of Bloody Eye was missing.\n\nwtf that was the crux of the episode!!!\n\nsomeone needs fired", "I never thought of watching it because I love the anime and watching this clip made me glad I'm not wasting my time.", "Bad films or bad relative to the anime? Almost every review compares it to the anime which means they're not reviewing it with an open mind.", "I'm not quite done with it yet, but I'm with you. I feel like everyone else is watching a different show to me. It's not prefect, but it's not unlike any number of mainline Marvel or DC characters getting new origins (how many Spiderman reboots?). Details and interpretation change, but the overall concept remains the same.\n\nI am enjoying this more than Squid Game, but they are very different shows. Squid Game was pandering to melodrama, whereas this version of Bebop is going for a comedy route. I definitely don't feel as manipulated by Bebop.\n\nI will say that the show's budget is very apparent. And there are definitely issues with direction and writing, specifically in fight scenes and the main side plot they shoehorn into most episodes. I kept thinking that the show would have been better if they just cut that entire plot out and stayed with the Bebop.", "Most anime just doesn't translate into live action.\n\nOne of the main reasons these stories are so engaging is the animation provides a layer of abstraction that allows you to suspend your disbelief and be absorbed into the world the show has set up.\n\nOnce you remove that layer of abstraction by making it live action, you lose the ability to suspend your disbelief and suddenly a bunch of design and narrative decisions that worked perfectly in the animation format appear weird and out of place.", "Leave it to Netflix to mixup something this nutbags", "still a fun show tho can't be denied by anybody...except some hateful spiteful people", "Oh lawd", "For me, bad writing and bad direction are synonymous in cases like this. Not every director is a writer, but at the end of the day, their say is what makes the movie (or show). \n\nIn the original, there was an attempt to say something past whatever was happening on screen. There was a continual theme about existentialism, sometimes venturing into absurdism and sometimes abandonment. The show expresses these ideas with a combination of dialog and visual metaphors, all hidden within a show about space ships and explosions. \n\nThe live action made the decision to attempt to recreate the feeling each episode evokes, without addressing the transition from 2D to Live action appropriately. This leads to some scenes being a literal shot-for-shot remake of the original, yet coming off as tacky or confused. The scenes where they don’t attempt to rehash the original are plagued by terrible writing, thus there is no good emotional setup to any of the scenes that are supposed to be impactful.", "yeah its a fun show, don't listen to the basement dwellers that hate everything", "trying to remake one of the most popular and beloved anime series of all time was already insanely and inherently risky", "I wont knock anyone for enjoying it, but I think it could have been so much better than it ended up being.", "Lol did you work on it or something? It's trash, full stop.", "Damn I didn’t know I could cringe this hard. I barely survived the first episode.", "How is this so perfect. 😂", "okay", "Man, SNL is weird this season.", "I felt the same way, it's almost as if it feels like a parody.", "The entire thing feels like random cosplayers with an editing budget performing Bebop on ice", "I really like it too.", "You can't mess with well loved things because you can absolutely never please the fans of them. Star Wars, Star Trek, fuckin even Disney remakes get shit on. None of this stuff is objectively bad, but nostalgia is a powerful drug and some people huff that shit like it's the only thing they've got in life.\n\nMy friend group was obsessed with this anime when it was released. I watched it 23 years ago and liked it. I'm rewatching a modern interpretation of it now 23 years later and I also like it. I particularly enjoy the dialog being so much like Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Faye is doing a great Sweet Dee impression and I'm in. Is it how I remember? Not really. But it stands on it's own two feet and is good for different reasons. I'm not the same kid I was 23 years ago and I feel like this show definitely targets how I am now vs then.\n\nIt was simply never going to be loved by the core fans because core fandoms are almost always filled with assholes.", "The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai.", "Suppresive.", "Lol how could you be Disappointed, extremely at that? There was no hope for this and they exceeded that", "It's edited to add a laugh track, but the scene was shot like a Seinfeld episode. It was definitely deliberate. The set is too close a copy.", "See? They should have just done this", "Nobody seems to mind she has an open bullet wound under the right collar bone?", "Every time they go to his storyline, I think the show would be better if they just removed all these scenes. They only serve to drag the pace of the show down with a boring, unnecessary mob drama with unlikeable characters.", "Can you give me any examples of a good live action adaptation of anime?", "It's in the middle. I think episode 5.", "I caught the intro of this and noted that they actually used bebop music in it. It reminds me of when Hollywood remade The Ring and put circles in it.", "I'm more than sure that Jet would know what a bidet is.", "It gets worse. So much worse.", "This looks like those tiktok videos that get posted on cringe subreddits.", "As someone that never saw the original and never will I enjoyed it. Not fantastic but not bad either.", "There are dozens of us DOZENS!!!", "As someone who doesn't know much or care for anime I went and checked like 15 top anime lists for shits and giggles... Cowboy Bebop tends to average around the 12-15 mark on most lists I saw. Dragonball, Naruto, Titan, Alchemist, Hunter x Hunter, Tokyo Ghoul, and Death Note were consistently top of the lists. I've only even heard of half of those but as a completely impartial observer to the conversation I just wanted to say you might be ranking Bepop much higher than the general public. Also as someone who doesn't follow anime I think a strong measure of cultural significance is somethings ability to bleed into public conscious and things like Dragonball, Naruto, and titan are things even I've been aware of as a non anime person... whereas I've never heard of Bepop until this remake.", "Man I enjoyed the hell out of this show!", "There were reasons to fool myself into hoping it would be better:\n\nYoko Kanno was on board (which is one thing Netflix got right), the 3D animation is actually decent (though, sci-fi space setting makes it hard to mess up), and John Cho does his best with the script he is given. His scenes make me cringe the least ususally.", "It literally can though, and you don't have to be \"hateful\" to dislike something. Or to think that this show doesn't hold a candle to the original.", "Big original fan here, I agree! I think people should give it a shot without listening to all the negativity. Frankly, people were always going to complain about a live adaption of an anime.", "All the numbers in your comment added up to 69. Congrats!\n\n 10 +\n 10 +\n 9 +\n 10 +\n 20 +\n 10 +\n = 69.0", "That's not true, some of them don't come back.", "Is this really from the movie? Whoever made this is a genius if it is. I guess I have to watch the movie today, but I'm not looking forward to it.", "It worked fine for me without", "They know the show sucks and the original fanbase isn't going to get it going viral, so they go for the next best thing - make lol jokes about it on social media with the hope that the rest of the internet will play along.\n\nOver 1800 upvotes so far on /r/videos, I'd say they're doing an excellent job.\n\nThis is modern advertising 101.", "That sounds better than I expected of a reboot. I may watch it", "Marvel is shit. Bebop is fun.", "Worldbuilding in 86 is fucked though. I can't tell if half that shit is intentional. Otherwise a pretty good show. However NOT BASED for not recommending Oddtaxi.", "It does! But it doesn’t have a laugh track.", "Yes it's good, don't listen to Reddit on this one people are looking for reasons to hate it. I went in thinking itd be bad and was sold after two episodes.", "I don't mind the writing (the original's pretty cheesy too), but there's no genuine chemistry among the cast. That's half the fun of something like Bebop, but the bonds seem forced. I assume the same thing will happen with the Avatar:TLA live-action. Good production, poor chemistry.", "They are using screen time to flesh out plots that you don't exactly see all of in the original.\n\nI think they are assuming that people will have seen it before so you already know....\n\n\nBut what about new viewers? I don't think this will inspire anyone to watch the original.", "I think it's a blast. I can understand why a lot of people are saying the dialogue is bad though. I don't agree, but it follows the vibe of the anime pretty closely. Honestly it straight up feels like Im watching an anime sometimes, which can be a weird feeling when it's live.", "Honestly anime can be cheesy and get away with it. With real people saying those lines and wearing those clothes it’s bound to get weird.", "Justifies keeping the dog when they're always out of money and should be selling it", "Yeah, I was interested in the show, til this pointed out how stupid the dialog is.", "\"his name is Mustafa, of course he'll have a beard already!\" - some casting director, probably", "I think the opposite is true for me. I like the way Faye bounces off Spike and Jet in the remake even if it's not the same as the original. I think the lack of direction for where each scene leads into the next makes it seem like a hodge-podge of tonal confusion. \n\nAlso I hate Ed in this.", "It's about nothing.", "Only 3 episodes in. It's watchable. But the fight scenes are shit. it's so so obvious that all the punchs are going toward where they are gonna be deflected to. \n\nThe wire work is shit, remember the first episode where spike was sliding across the table whole shooting? \n\nCGI is iffy at times. The scene of all the red eye falling out, it was so jerky it loooked like ps1 physics. \n\nAnd lastly viscous, did he kill his own men for delivering a bad message? He's cold, but not like that", "Good take.", "I'm actually only half way through. Nice to hear Ed's in it, anyway, haha.", "That's because you can't just \"do anime in real life\". It doesn't work. It pulls itself into the uncanny valley super quick.", "Yup. All of that was fantastic.", "Spoilers. My b. \n\nYea I think there's a reason Ed wasn't in any of the trailers lol", "Woof.", "That's a brave high-ground to stand on master jedi.", "It's nice they let white humor into an all-woke narrative and cast.", "I think comments like this are just jumping on the bandwagon. The cgi is often seriously impressive.", "I mean, Steven Yeun or Andrew Koji would have been much better.", "How DARE he enjoy something that you didn't. The nerve!", "Oh no worries, I accidentally spoiled the reveal that the casino was in space while watching it with someone who'd never seen the original/trailer. It's mostly interesting to see how the influences have come full circle, Bebop -> Firefly -> Live Bebop.", "comparison is part of the game when you adapt a well loved anime or any popular ip from another media. Thats why the project get made, cause the ip is well known so its easy money in the head of the producers.\n\nIMHO Cowboy Bebop deserved much better that a netflix low/mid budget tv serie for its adaptation.", "The director is basically the creative lead on a work. They establish the tone for the piece, and for all the other creatives involved. They have a major say in every department across the film, which could vary from an intricate, specific vision for each creative, to finding people they gel with, trusting them with their ideas, and having the final say in what they present.\n\nThink of it this way: if the film score is excellent on its own, that's a good composer. If the acting is amazing, that's likely good actors. If the film score hits a peak as an actor nails their emotional moment, and the shot composition reveals how lonely the character is or something at the same time, and it all make sense without feeling stupid, that's probably a good director. I like to think that a good director presents a cohesive, tonally balanced work that achieves whatever it is they set out to make in the first place.\n\nIt's a little harder with television, as there are often multiple directors across episodes, and the credited director generally is whoever shot the most footage for that particular ep (though that can obviously be different if there's a more \"prestige\" director at the helm, as they'd probably shoot the whole ep). For TV, I'd probably argue it's the showrunners at fault if it appears the directing is bad, as they're the ones who have mapped out what I've outlined in that first paragraph through a show bible. The directors follow that show bible religiously, and it can often just be a little paint by numbers for them.", "People get too emotionally invested in things they like. I don't know who'd love the anime and go in and expect a 1:1 love action adaptation of ANY anime, let alone this one. The show isn't gonna win any awards, but it's fun.", "Much better than the anime, which people pretend to like because it's an established classic according to the narrative.", "Cho ruins it for me. He's just not \"cool\". Just a really flat character.", "They haven't done anything to the anime, it still exists in its untouched form. You can watch that on Netflix too.", "I’d be super interest to hear what someone who’s never seen the original thinks", "Ugh. Yeah, I remember liking the first six or so episodes of Sword Art Online despite feeling they were kind of rough. Then it got really bad. And then it got worse.", "Just look at it as a new show. Stop comparing it and you will have a good time, or at least I am and I love the anime. If you want a 1 to 1 adaptation then watch the anime in Japanese. \n\nChanging Spikes martial arts or Katarinas backstory are so small of changes in the bigger picture. I agree the change to how Katarina and Asimov's was better in the anime, but so what this is a different show.\n\nI've only watched the first 5 episodes but I believe there's only one other time so far that Jet hasn't used his handgun. \n\nIt's not the anime for sure. But watching it without expectations or comparisons has allowed me to enjoy it a lot. Its way more campy and as others have said the banter between characters is bad, I actually enjoy it. \n\nI honestly think the adaptors knew they couldn't touch the anime feeling. So they took their liberties and ran with it on the character personalities. Each one is close enough to see hints of their anime self while still being their own. \n\nThe only major complaint that I have is Vicious and Julia. They are trying to build them up as characters where the anime really didn't use them or explore them. I think they are doing a terrible job at it. But its a drop in the bucket as I'm enjoying Spike, Jet, and Faye. They each have outstanding moments and their chemistry, for me, is working greatly.", "I'm only through episode 2 so far, but as a huge fan of the anime, it's really hard to watch the live action. The writing and choreography in ep 2 was a disaster.", "Specifically, weeaboos who sacralise anime were always going to complain.", "I love the speed racer live action, I’m not a fan of the bebop live action.", "Mostly that it's original enough to be interesting and the ship design's neat. They were big Firefly fans, so they keep mentioning how much Firefly must've taken from Bebop.", "How do they miss getting someone like Andrew Koji to play Spike lol", "Definitely it is - there is a huge market for people who should love the characters and stories in many anime series, but can't get past it being anime. If Tomorrow Studios is trying to find the line between asshole anime fan and asshole MCU fan then this is at least a step up from whatever Netflix's \"Death Note\" was supposed to be.\n\nCowboy Bebop was the second anime I bought on DVD, after Trigun in the 90's. I've only watched the first episode of the Netflix series, but I see what they are going for and I didn't think it was bad outside of a few stiff lines.", "It's not bad at all.", "Nothing can look as good as Spike does in the original. He's a master of Jeet Kune Do, which means he uses the least amount of effort to get the job done but does so in a flowing, precise and somehow sloppy way. Without bringing Bruce Lee back from the dead, there's no way anyone can make it look good, and be a good actor.\n\nStill better than Iron-Fist though.", "I agree with you. I loved the original series and I liked how this added to the world of bebop. Gave all the character's a little more depth and background.", "Yes", "Honestly never thought of it until I saw someone else suggest it but Bob Morley from the 100 would’ve been a great fit for Spike", "Maybe it's a mobile thing then...", "I was thinking it might have been something pornographic, not something sick like Battlefield Earth shudders", "How much was this recut? The timing for everything was perfectly Seinfeld.", "Nah, it's more of the audience for CW shows like Arrow, DC Legends of Tomorrow and the made for TV line of superhero camp shows.", "I'm not saying we should give it awards, but I enjoyed the show. Anything to get me to forget about the world I live in now....", "Jesus that looks so bad.", "I enjoyed edge of tomorrow", "Yes. The setting is just the IP and there isn't any forced characters from the game to be relevant or name drops or anything. A handful of named characters get shown, a handful of new characters are shown, and a pretty solid story is there.\n\nI criticize everything I watch pretty heavily. I would recommend Arcane.", "I agree, people are getting hard over hating this live action but lets be serious.\n\nJust like seinfeld, cowboy bebop is about nothing. Fantastic show on first watch, hard to watch now. \n\nThe live action actually has character depth and a continuous plot.", "Am I the only one excited for this series?", "and I just… I don’t know how you can’t love it.", "Trees, Jerry, trees!", "I could look past a lot of things, but I had to turn it off in episode 2 when I realized that was Gren…", "That was fascinating.\n\nThank you for sharing.", "Aside from the introduction of a certain character in the show, which is the cringiest thing I’ve seen in a modern show in a LONG time, I’m liking the show. It’s not perfect, def not the greatest show ever, but the worst thing it has going for it is that it’s called Cowboy Bebop. I’ve seen the original tons of times, so I’m not brand new to it, and I just think the show would be better received if it was called something completely different.", "Jesus this sucks. What a garbage live action.", "I enjoyed this more than the show.", "That alternate title wins.", "Vicious is like the bad guy in an 80's movie where they shut down the town's teen center to build a mall.", "I think other than Faye they missed the mark on the characters.", "Yea if they ever make a live action of Avatar:TLA I hope they don't screw it up.", "Nothing weird, Squid Game is good and the other one is not, but you are allowed to like anything", "You’re not the boss of me now!", "The anime shows the redeye well before the final scene, roughly around the same time as the live action did. The redeye starts to fall out of her \"belly\" during the shootout before they get in the ship.", "Yeah it's a show about how much it sucks being poor and alone; even in crazy future space world. As always, live action has completely missed the mark.", "wouldnt know im blind", "I guess it is good as a background noise", "The original was made to sell space ship models!", "\"That sounds like blackmail\"\n\n\"Damn right it is because, Jet, you are black and you are a male\"", "Yeehaw", "Yeah I'll give them that. Not nearly as bad as death note, and as long as I completely ignore the screen whenever their weird British Lucious Malfoy temper tantrum throwing emotional train wreck version of Vicious is on the screen I actually enjoy it.", "And then it became gun gale online and it somehow got even worse…", "I think it is very funny that the only person who is even kind of half-able to salvage this dialogue dumpster fire is the one playing Faye - the person everyone was complaining about.\n\nHer dialogue is still awful, and it doesn't sound particularly like Faye, but she almost sells it.", "You're not the boss of me now!", "People don't hate new ideas, people love new ideas that are good. Being new doesn't inherently make it a good thing.\n\nPeople love the live action adaptations of The Witcher, The Walking Dead, ect. Hell, Marvel is the textbook example of making an well received adaptation that isn't 100% exact to the source material.", "I watched some of the anime episodes after and Faye is different in it despite seemingly being the same. Yeah she's annoying, but less so Gen Z throwing \"dick\" and \"nutbag\" around all the time and just being obnoxious for no reason. \n\nAnime Faye is more of a traditional femme fatale, at least on the surface, and clashes with the crew because they very much don't fall for it like other guys do. Not to mention she's always gambling and fleeting be sure she's hounded by debt collectors and distrustful. They change her backstory in the life action show a little bit which makes her current actions less justified and more that she just an asshole for no reason", "They took the wagyu that was the original anime and mixed it with pig ears and other lesser meats to make a hotdog that it is still edible.", "Its... enjoyable, just recall that it's only BASED on Cowboy Bebop. Oh and completely ignore the scenes that involve Vicous, God are they the absolute worst. The main crew going around and doing their thing is fun though.", "Yeah I watched it and kept bouncing back between cringing, but also thinking this is how Ed was... adapting her was never going to be an easy task", "Andrew Koji would have been perfect!", "I tried rewatching the anime again and I could not. Not because it aged badly. All the original emotions that I felt can never be conjured as they did decades ago. I just felt like I was chasing for something that I had already experience, never will, and should respect and admire for what it was. And then there's this garbage.", "Nothing in his post felt organic. \"As a fan of the original media, Netflix™ really knocked it out of the park with their funny original take on such a beloved series. I for one will definitely look forward to season 2!\"", "Yeah as soon as a saw Faye holding her own when sparring with Spike I realized they totally threw away her skill set and just made her another fighter. Shame.", "I agree, which is why the solution is to either leave animation to animation or adapt something in spirit alone. This adaptation tried to be TOO visually similar to the anime, that was its mistake.", "I don't like this at all.", "I've never played LoL and know very little of its characters and lore, and I really, really liked Arcane. The animation is beautiful and the writing is smart and engaging without falling into typical hero/villain clichés. I'm sure there are probably plenty of easter eggs for other LoL stuff, but I never felt intentionally in the dark about anything.\n\nAbsolutely recommend.", "The only characters I didn't like were vicious and Julia. I didn't like faye at first but the bathroom scene sold her for me. I think that Jet was perfect as far as voice/cadence/ acting but they relied on his daughter too much for story. Spike was good enough for me. But not perfect.", "Just saw the first episode, storyline is exactly the same as the anime. Are all episodes storyline taken from the anime? No original stories?", "Wow this explains a lot actually.", "I mean just look at the Eternals", "Yeah there's definitely some moments where characters will hold an arm or leg out waiting for Spike to get through some sort of weird grappling move on it.", "If I completely ignore all the scenes with Vicious then I agree with you completely. It's fun and enjoyable, I like the general vibe.\n\nWhat they did to Vicious though..... God it's terrible.", "I 100% agree and said the exact same thing when Cho was cast. They knew they'd get shit if they didn't cast an Asian dude as Spike, but also (in typical Hollywood fashion) still had no faith in an Asian lead being able to carry the show so cast the only one who was known and wasn't too old aka Cho. Of course they could've found a younger, lesser known one. They seem to cast relatively unknown white dudes all the time", "I'm enjoying it as long as I ignore Vicious. What they did to his character is comically bad, just... so so bad.\n\nThe rest of the show I've been enjoying though. It's just fun.", "I am enjoying the show, but I'm only vocal about it because I know it pisses off the weeaboos lmao", "Maybe you're right. This thread has certainly dampened my enthusiasm to watch it though.", "They should have left Ed out of the remake.", "sorry yes, I watched one of the eps one of the spaceships looks movie level cgi", "I think all of monster is on YouTube somewhere", "The first episode where Spike is rabbit punching that guy is so weird. I was just laughing like alright I guess this is unironically what they’re doing.", "If a show has dialogue like this it should be a comedy not an adventure like it’s trying to be", "I cant wait to ~~hate~~ watch this show", "Slowly..slowly the people in their 30s and 40s began to learn that they were no longer the primary target audience…\n\nAdding to that.. the Americans start to slowly realize that they are becoming the secondary market as China gets more attention. \n\nA lot of midlife Americans are going to have a bad time.", "You're in for a treat.", "I'm kinda confused why they made him Asian in the first place, spike always read as Jewish to me, hell, his last name is Spiegel", "Holy shit is this bad.", "So I've only watched the first episode, but I went in with low expectations, and found myself really enjoying it.", "Yeah, I agree. Its just.....off", "So rewatch the anime again instead and check this out later kind of review?", "I started watching it. Seems alright. There's a lot of wrong choices made, that's for sure. But I'm not expecting Oscar winning performance or directing it. It's like a slightly higher budget YouTube fan creation.\n\nThis is a show you watch with a nightcap in bed, not on your semi-professional home theater. Enjoy what you can and keep low expectations. If you're going to get worked up about how wrong it is compared to the anime, or how this or that has been changed, then no. Don't watch it.", "Shit I didn't know who Andrew Koji was until right now and i totally agree. What a missed opportunity!", "You can't improve upon perfection", "Arcane was just renewed for Season 2.", "I've never played LoL, but I've seen the first season. It was alright. Digging the steampunk vide. I'll def watch season 2. Gives me a Final Fantasy VII vibe for some reason too...lol", "You're kidding. This is from the real show?", "It's a tv show not a movie", "Which show? There are 2 here. Wait, is this a real remake, but then someone edited Seinfeld sounds over top?", "As a rule, everything that's posted about netflix on reddit will have negative comments. And I mean everything.", "Wait, we can unsay some things? Which ones?", "The technical part is not good either. Especially when it comes to the musical direction. They completely dropped the ball on that, and the music is in the title of the damn show! \n\n\nThen there's the costuming that looks cheap and fake. The sets that looks really nice but still look strikingly like sets and not real places.", "Wow that was bad, I’ll pass", "SPIKE SPIEGEL", ">as an original fan\n\nOh man here's the armchair redditor about to school is on this niche cult classic no one else has ever seen. /s\n\nWhaT's cOwBOy BEbOp???", "I've never watched the cartoon, that said I really enjoyed it.", "So, if you pretend it's a good show, you might enjoy it?", "How are you getting opinions from 'the general audience'?", "No, I was expecting it to be shit but this is next level shit.", "I’m not sure uncanny valley means what you think it means…", ">Death Note Love Action\n\nSounds like a porno", "I fucking hate the overuse of colored light or ultra wide lenses. It drives me absolutely insane.", "Oh God, oh God, Jesus christ wtf was that", "Everything looks great but the fire. That was one thing I couldn't help noticing. How do they have the ability to make all the space stuff look so cool, but any fire looks like a graphic from a PS2 game?", "To add to the dogpile:\n\nIt's...off. \n\nVisually, it gets there, or gets close. \n\nBut the main problem is that (anime) Bebop is a brooding, dramatic property that's oozing with saying so much by saying so little. When that translates to live action, you have these uncomfortable pauses in pacing that feel awkward or confusing. Especially if the Director isn't working with that and the actors aren't good at subtle emotes theough facial expressions. \n\nLive action Bebop vacillates between slapstick cheese dialogue and brooding emotion and the result is something that feels like Sin City meets Tarantino. \n\nIt also feels like they tried to recreate too much of the anime word for word, shot for shot, but injected filler that doesn't translate well to live action. \n\nIt's very much a case study in WHY direct ports of anime, comic, and video games to live action are a bad strategy. In Bebop, the new/filler material and dialogue doesn't work in concert with the source dialogue and visuals/tone. \n\nFinally, while I adore the execution of the visuals for Spike, Jet, and Faye, their performance really feels off. Cho seems to understand Spike in scenes where it counts, but Jet and Faye's actors don't seem to be able to portray the characters in a natural way. The director and script force them to over emote and talk too much. It comes across like a hammy stage performance rather than screen. And neither their dialogue or their delivery makes me feel like they're anything other than actors reading lines. \n\nI'm glad it exists, and I encourage everyone to watch it once as a class in \"be careful what you wish for in live action\"", "You're gonna carry that weight.", "Honestly I think 4/10 episodes are great, two are shit, and the rest are okay. The biggest problem was trying to make the narrative more centered around Spike's past. I could deal with the goofy dialogue, but holy shit was the Vicious/Julia stuff lame.", "The cinematography was a hacked together jumble of cliche shots and lame transitions. Just watch any of the terrible fight scenes. \n\nThe writing was the worst part of this flaming bag of dogshit.", "Man this live action is so bad looking.", "What? I asked you how you're getting the opinions of the general audience. How do you know people don't care about it? Where is this info coming from?", "The reason people know everything that happens is because the original is endlessly rewatchable", "Everything is more tolerable with Rifftrax. It's the only way I got through the entire Harry Potter series.", "Yes I've been trying to think of what it feels like to me and this is spot on", "You're joking right?\n\nI hope you just slipped on the keyboard and wrote that post by mistake, because I was about to give this show a go and that sounds awful as shit.", "Had no idea what the original was about. 3 episodes into the live action version. It's fun enough that I'll keep watching and is stylistically / visually interesting, but that's about it really.", "Wait, this is the actual show & not a fan made video? Tbh I don't know why I'm asking, I don't check my replies anymore", "\"I like cho, but why the fuck am I supposed to accept that this dude is a day younger than 50?\"", "Wait your example of something that didn't kill the interest in an IP is game of thrones season 8?\n\nSee I'd agree with you that this show is very much like GoT Season 8 entirely because it is just so, so bad that it not only kills the interest in the IP but taints anything ever made with that IP again, much like season 8 did. \n\nThis isn't harmless however, season 8 absolutely killed game of thrones as a fandom. Just look at how quickly and how completely people stopped talking about a show that dominated public discourse for years prior. Bebop certainly didn't have that level of popularity before hand, but for the people who were fans of the show this Netflix abomination is clearly everything we were worried about and warned about.\n\nThere really is no way to spin this and lie to fans of the original work to the point of polishing this turd even slightly.", "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man", "The GitS movie was largely joyless and bleak. This show at least has the smarts to have two leads with great chemistry that have a lot of fun together. I love how much they make each other laugh.", "I wouldn't say GGO arc was worse than ALO...but it was pretty bad lol.", "> over the top action\n\nMarvel at least has GOOD fight scenes. I watched one episode and the fights were godawful. They were slow and clunky. They looked like the actors were rehearsing for a better fight scene.", "That's not the uncanny valley.\n\n>The concept suggests that humanoid objects that imperfectly resemble actual human beings provoke uncanny or strangely familiar feelings of eeriness and revulsion in observers.", "It's not nearly as bad as Death Note, but the slow-mo shot of Spike falling into the ocean really reminded me of the ferris wheel scene of Death Note. First and last episodes were easily the worst, imo. 5-8 are some quality pulpy television though.", "As a fan of both shows, Yes!", "No, mom, you don't get it. I'm doing it ironically!", "When you cosplay, you get less human /s", "No, more like reset your expectations in comparing with the original anime (masterpiece IMO) and then it is an enjoyable show in its' own right.", "The dialog seems on point, but something seems really off. Like, the god the atmosphere right on script, but it doesn’t really translate well when acted on.", "What would be a plot twist one of the writers did write for Seinfeld. Google time", "I legitimately couldn't tell it wasn't ripped Seinfeld until they went from bidets to sci-fi", "Firefly was a much better Bebop live action. Like why force these characters into live action roles when they weren't written for it. It feels very unnatural and, in this case, unsettling. Maybe that's why they spam the dutch angle on so many scenes.\n\nThis show could have worked but it didn't need to retell the story of the original series. And it definitely didn't deserve this director/writer.", "The video posted above is absolutely uncanny valley. That why the laugh track fits so well as a 90s sitcom gag.", "Holy shit that was so bad", "Welcome to Netflix", "Its actually really fun, these nostalgia nerds wanted a shot for shot remake in a world where those don't exist. Even the tacky dialogue is fun.", "I thought I would love it. Watched the first episode, hated it. Watched the second episode, loved it, and every episode after that. It's highly stylistic and once you get past it, the soul of the original show is still there. Great music, atmosphere, characters, stories. Of course the whole concept is going to lend itself better to anime so turn your brain off a little and it's really fun.", "Wow that acting hurts to watch", "i couldn't watch more than 30 minutes of it. had to turn it off.", "Elaine did this sort of thing", "To be fair, that one is practically a meme with how fucking awful it is.", "If it was a shot for shot remake, they would still come out with torches and pitchforks.", "A shot for shot remake would be bad. That's why almost all live action adaptations are terrible. \n\nBut someway somehow if they could nail a similar atmosphere and pacing as the original work I'm all aboard.", "Why are the characters from cowboy bebop talking about fucking bidets…", "If you pretend it's not an adaptation of one of the greatest animated shows ever, it's a decent watch.\n\nLike, it's not Death Note or Avatar at least?", "I've always gotten the impression Spike was older. Not quite as old as John Cho, but he has really good skin and doesn't look his age.\n\nAlso I just disagree on his abilities. I was looking forward to seeing how he did after seeing Searching, where he fucking kills it. The Lordes episode was really good on the back of his performance. \n\nI think why he doesn't work as Spike is because he's too vulnerable. Spike is just way too cool for someone like John Cho to pull off. Steven Yeun would be much better in a role like this. That movie he's in with Samara Weaving really sold me on his ability to be a total badass.", "It was in it, most other things he said were correct though. Must have taken his eyes off the tv to write down more notes about how he hates it.", "I mean, remakes in general ALWAYS feel less genuine. Original shows are built upon artists creating their vision OR an executive creating a cash grab. Whereas remakes are always just cash grabs. \n\nYou need to put far more effort into a remake to overcome this fault, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it done. All remakes do is make me want to stop watching/playing/whatever, and go enjoy the original.", "The fake laugh track makes the stilted dialog seem more appropriate.", "Have you seen John Adams?", "I always question people who read the manga for Shounen as adults. As you said, the plot is basically nonexistent, and the manga doesn’t really capture the complex action and special effects. So what you’re left with is pretty hollow.", "They tried to make Lethal Weapon in space. Making Jet Black be Murtaugh and Spike be Riggs.", "∆ appropriate reaction.", "It already hit #3 on Netflix its first day. Have you seen these threads? Hundreds of people have basically admitted to hate-watching it within the first 24 hours. I don't think they need to do goofy viral marketing for it.", "Fire up netflix then. It is super tacky but as a casual anime enjoyer who watched bebop a couple times when it came out and not much since i had a blast. Only halfway through too.", "Uh ...", "His voice is excellent too. Super close to the OG Jets English VA (and for those of you who hate dubs, the Bebop one is super good).", "Remakes are always done for one reason and one reason only:\n\nMoney.", "The next four episodes are the best ones, funny enough.", "Gundam’s toys* are a phenomena, but the anime’s outside the first couple were not really that critically acclaimed and the later shows sure as hell weren’t that highly praised either.\n\nIf the toys didn’t sell, that show never woulda continued.", "Find a half Japanese half Jewish guy, bam! One that can act would help too", "If it wasn't for the repair bill for that cruiser you wrecked... and the one for that shop you trashed... and the medical bill for the cop you injured, I'd buy you gold for that comment.", "You don't get it. I'm not trying to present myself as something likeable here or be ironic, I am a detestable hipster that only watches subs. I represent that cringeworthy swagger of a record player on the table in a cafe because \"vinyl has a superior sound quality to mp3\", I am the comic chauvinist who mocks the film deviance from the source, I am the gitbag that tells people who grew up with the dub that they got the inferior source. \n\nI'm sorry you had to suffer the worse version, but I read the manga, watched the sub and because of that the dub is just horrific to my ears and I am of the opinion that all dubs are awful usually because they don't spend as much on voice acting as the original. \n\nI am not trying to make out that this is fair or ironic, its just my part to play in this outcome where some people read the manga, some people watched the sub and some people watched the dub but they all talk together on the interwebz. I appreciate this perspective comes off as intolerable to you but it is what it is and I am who I am. I believe that dubs suck.", "Tbf, it's a post-coital scene where she talks about her past. It's something that starts as a gag until Faye opens up about her feelings in a way she hadn't prior. I thought it worked pretty well.\n\nMuch better than the opening scene of the next episode where she's leafing through porno mags saying, \"Yup, I'm a boob girl.\"", "we can't have sexy femme fatale Faye so instead we get milennial valley girl Faye. \n\nThis has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals. Maybe ever.", "they shoulda had Scarlett Johansson play Spike.", "Is this the actual dialogue, just with an added laugh track?", "Netflix has a special ability to make everything bad", "I'm 6 episodes in...I gotta finish this lol. I'm too deep to stop now. Ed seems cringe af, but Faye's dialog is ... something. Definitely has the potential there it's just not quite sure what it wants to do. The fact that they wanted to do their own thing yet took story beats from the show and mix matched them in doing random other things, for example the space rats, just makes me wonder why the f*** after all of this planning did Netflix let them go along with this.", "Oof", "But it’s not Cowboy Bebop at all. That’s my issue. They should’ve made their own space Cowboy TV` show. The characters have nothing in common with the anime. Forget being a 1 to 1 adaptation, they didn’t even the core of the characters right.", "Wow, the source material for this must be fucking awful. Anime nerd trash", "The problem is that humans are content sponges. These streaming services are putting out an absurd amount of content at record pace but most of the stuff is awful because rarely does anyone take the time to really develop good characters and stories. It's even worse with stuff like this where the story has already been written and it's all a matter of hiring good actors and figuring out how to translate to a different genre (anime to live action). Not saying it's easy, but it's not like they're writing it all from scratch.", "I guess I’m missing it. Where in the video does it show an object that resembles a human but is not actually a human? Where exactly should I be feeling the uncomfortableness of the uncanny valley due to something being very close to lifelike, but not quite?", "How is it being edgy to not be happy they changed all the characters? Julia is a bad guy now? What the fuck? That’s not Cowboy Bebop. It’s not edgy to complain about, it’s literally completely different.", "Their aiming for live action Gundum next :/", "For anime lovers it’s right up there with Star Wars. It’s almost always on top 5 lists and almost always at the number 1 spot.\n\nIt’s more akin to how non car people know about the Nissan GTR or a Ferrari F-40 or a Lamborghini Countach. You don’t need to be into cars to know them.\n\nBut for car people, a car like Mclaren F1 is almost always at the top or near the top as best car. It’s not cultural phenomena outside of car culture but inside car culture it might as well be Jesus Christ.\n\nThat’s what I mean. Inside anime culture it demands immediate respect and authority but I see your point as it being not as widely respected outside of anime ironically.", "Nothing happens to the anime if you watch the show.", "Dude I wasn't gonna watch this but this is fucking good right here", "The lighting is what gets me. It looks so much like a soap opera, I actually had to check if my TV had motion smoothing turned on.", "This episode was really weird in particular though. The goofiness alongside the tree thing? The tree thing was fucking horrifying.", "Disgusting, everything they touch turns to shit", "Yeah it's really true to the anime so far, but gives more lore. I honestly think people are just getting on a hate train without giving it enough of a try.", "I'm happy to see other first 6ers.", "> If you're asking if it's some kind of dirty slang, then no.\n\nYou're thinking of a Dutch Rudder.", "Ive watched the first episode and feel like they were channeling Bunraku instead of the anime.\n\nThey focused so hard on the cosplay-esque outfits that they missed what made the anime special. The noir, jazz feeling. Loss, listlessness, constant struggle, betrayal, nostalgia, and just the main themes. \n\nInstead, they're just beating you to death with references while stripping what made those scenes special. The Asimov Katarina dynamic lacked emotion, Space Mexico didn't even have Mexicans, and Faye is no longer cunning, and coy. Instead, she's crass and they're trying to make her some kind of weird mirror of Spyke. \n\nIt's like Daniel Pineda had her choice of inspirations and chose to channel Awkwafina for her character. \n\nJohnny Cho isn't bad, he just lacks an aloofness that is integral to Spyke. A devil-may-care attitude and no regard for his own life is what makes Spyke because they're a direct result of his past. Mustafa Shakir as Jet is actually pretty good. It'd be better if they didn't give him a family. It changes the motivations. That, and if he didn't have to be so goofy.\n\nIt'd honestly be better if they took the core elements and built their own thing rather than adhering to it superficially and missing the deeper mark. \n\nAlso, Vicious is bad and the Vicious/Julia dynamic they introduced so early seems cheesy.", "The shounen/seinen split is really a manga thing and is actually in reference to magazine demographics. The magazines themselves have their target demographics, so shounen series will be published in magazines like WSJ or Jump SQ. Seinen series will be published in magazines like Young Jump or Young Animal. Another thing that sets demographics apart is art style: shounen manga tends to be more cartoony/stylized while seinen manga tends to be more detailed/realistic (though not a hard rule by any means). \n\nInterestingly, Bebop did have two manga adaptations, though they were both shoujo manga (targeted towards young girls).", "And you've just discovered why the direst of dire nerds love anime: they like shiny things but don't understand human things.", "I always thought he was Hispanic or Native American. Given how into the cultural stuff he was in the original anime.", "Yaknow three of the ones you mentioned are also 20+ years old, plus NGE is usually higher ranked than Bebop.", ">Cowboy bebop is masterful storytelling through the medium of anime. Those other shows are not.\n\nNGE slaps you harshly with a glove", "I'm only 2 episodes in because NEED to edge this shit... Why is there no Radical Edward!? I am sad that Radical Edward is not in the show", "They should’ve hired Man Faye for the more authentic experience.", "I dont get it. Love seinfeld, seen every episode but im lost", "Lol I don't know any of the cars you listed. I know the makes, obviously, but can't even picture the models. I feel like you're operating off of a limited perspective and you're having a hard time seeing that.", "Then you're probably incredibly dim witted.\n\nDank memes,nfl, and tv. That's your whole Reddit experience.\n\nYou were plucked right outta Idiocracy.", "I would love that scene...\n\n...if it were done by Nickelodeon...\n\n...and it was 1994...\n\n...and I was eight again.", "The problem comes when it expands on plots points, but somehow at the cost of old stuff? Why?", "Seinfeld parodies are getting to be like every one of those goddamn I Love Lucy scenes in sitcom dream sequences or on low-effort sketch comedies in the '80s and '90s.", "This new season of Seinfeld looks completely messed up", "They at least needed to get a kid with a similar voice to Ed in the shows, I feel like that was a major factor to the characters success. \n\nInstead they picked a kid who screeches like one of those fake disorder teens on tiktok. Like how hard is it to find an actor with a similar voice.", "\"For anime lovers\" is still a niche group compared to BILLIONS who know of Star Wars. It's not even hand over fist. Doesn't matter how great Bebop is, and I truly believe it is one of the best anime ever created, it pales in popularity to Star Wars. Billions, vs hundreds of thousands. \n\nInside anime fanbases sure, it's a Don, always voted near the top of any popularity list. But those anime fan circles are tiny, compared to the genuine Cultural Phenomenon, Star Wars was and continues to be. It's a juggernaut that makes millions every year from it's name alone.\n\nPeople can downvote me for that all they like, but I stand by it. For every million Star Wars fans, there are just thousands of Cowboy Bebop ones.\n\nIt's a cult classic, beloved and adored, cherished and worshipped. But it is no more a cultural phenomenon than FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Both of those anime shows, great as they are, are a drop in the cultural effect that Star Wars has became. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nI respect and admire your love for it and trying to explain this to me, but it is not a cultural phenomenon outside of our niche circle. Your next door neighbour's grandma is not likely to know what the hell a Spike is, but I'd wager she'd recognise Darth Vader's helmet when a kid comes Trick or Treating.", "Idk I'd say that's pretty close to what I got from it.", "Edward wasn’t there right away in the anime, be patient", "\"Insulting to the target audience\" is at once a laughable criticism that doesn't mean anything and a horrible misread on who the target audience is. They didn't make this show to please anime fans. They made it for general audiences.", "That’s not really what I’m talking about.\n\nPokémon isn’t known for being a good anime. The question is different. Because asking someone who watches anime what the best of wouldn’t produce Pokémon or Star Wars or Harry Potter lol\n\nIf the question was “do you watch anime? What do you you think is the greatest anime of all time is?”\n\nCowboy Bebop would come up a lot.\n\nIt’s not “what do you know more?” It’s “what do you feel is the best.”", "Maybe the worst part of it for me was in the last episode when Faye says, \"I'm not gonna carry that weight.\"", "_\"You're Gonna Carry That...Something\"_", "Watch the episode with Pierrot Le Fou.\n\nIt's Dragonball Evolution.", "im thinking Mandalorian and baby yoda was so big some ex at netflix or wherever forced them to add it in lol. idk tho prolly not but would be believable if it was", ">those fake disorder teens on tiktok \n \ntwitches", "Absolutely. If they added more space cowboy shenanigans and cut out basically all the Vicious stuff, it would have been so much better.", ">Without bringing Bruce Lee back from the dead, there's no way anyone can make it look good, and be a good actor.\n\nUh. There are plenty of people that could make it look better. Not sure if they'd look like Spike though.", "Seriously, favorite person ever.\n\nThere are quite a few gems in the show. Imo, Woodcock's scenes are among them.", "This is r/cringetopia if you want some free karma\n\n\nHoly fuck, look how they massacred my girl 😿😿", "You can tell they are really trying to pay homage to the Anime. it's incredibly campy, more times then not, it works, but when sometimes it's really cringy.", "I've been hate-watching and enjoying it well enough.", "I think your demographic is who they made it for. While the people who watched the original hoped for something, it really is for people who don’t have that connection I think.", "I haven't watched live Bebop yet but the Kenshin movies show you can translate anime action into live action. I wouldn't have thought it possible but they did an amazing job.", "Funny part is the music is being done by the original composer for the anime.", "So you’re saying the anime is culturally insensitive too?", "So I guess this must be hilarious if you think someone saying \"that's nutbags\" is funny.", "I’m sorry but majority of super hero movies do not include juvenile humor every 30sec. You should probably watch more and educate yourself on then if you’re gonna make a statement so blatantly false.", "100% I would rather watch the avatar movie. It was SO BAD that it was at times actually hilarious to watch.\n\nThis...this was just painful.", "... As a fan of the original, I liked the remake. Every adaptation has its problems but the actors seemed to be enjoying the work, the story is interesting especially to someone who has never seen the anime and I'm just happy to see my favourite fuck ups back on my screen.", "Yeah literally just looked at his face and now I'm pissed. Like it would have taken a miracle to make Ed not cringe in live action but God a good director/high enough budget could have least made the show worth watching", "Maybe even Henry Golding", "They could have cut out every scene where Viscous isn't directly interacting with Spike and the show would have been better. No need to add more, just remove that plot line.\n\nEven episodes where he's semi-directly involved, like episode 8, would have been better if he's never seen. Imagine episode 8 without the pre-credits scene... It's so much better.", "thats a weird thing to add too a show. he never was black, so 1) they made a lame wordplay with his name and 2) added a corny reply with the thing they come up with in the first place...", "The core theme of the anime is that the crew of the Bebop only have each other in the end. It's literally why they always find themselves on the couch by the end. They literally have no where else to go. It makes it that much bitter sweet when Ed actually finds her father and has a place to go. This series seems like writers came together and one was like, \"you know what Jet needs? A daughter.\" Jet is the efficient character that thoroughly thinks before any decision. If he had a daughter waiting for him, he would've thought of a better way to make money, than wandering the galaxy looking for bounties and starving half the time. This live action adaption doesn't get it, but if you like it, that's perfectly fine.", "I enjoyed it for what it is. Just don't go in with big expectations. It's not ideal as an adaptation of the anime, but it's obvious the production was trying. The weakest part of the show IMO is the dialogue. It often straight up borrows dialogue from the anime and it feels awkward sometimes.", "Not seen it, thanks for the recommendation.", "No, it’s atrocious.", "Episode 8 is among one of the good ones, imo, so I totally agree. \n\nHe's like Kylo Ren except they never really establish him as powerful. The only scene in which he kicks ass is in that episode, and you have almost no reason to believe he'd be capable of that. Other scenes show him being brutal, but usually against a helpless or unaware target.", "Yup. Another great anime ruined by live action", "Yea it's going to be hard [to copy anime Ed](\nhttps://imgur.com/jzthsDS) with a physical person.", "I never noticed it, bit your almost 100% right on that", "I've got to disagree. I know the cowboy Bebop the original had a tendency for some cruddy dialogue. But it wasn't as, flat? As a lot of the scenes I have seen are. In it's serious moments the original Bebop was like a old noir film, conjuring up ideas of detectives and long lost love. In the serious moments of this show it just falls flat. The characters speak too plainly, and honestly are too much of a cosplay to be taken seriously. They just don't fit. Don't even get me started on Vicious who looks so much like the damn villain from hardcore Henry that I'm angry every time I see him. Who let that out of the costume room? Seriously, I don't even know where to start with that one. Either way I am a damn dedicated cowboy Bebop fan, I have sat through the series dozens of times, and when I was young learned a lot of my modern tastes in stories, cinema and music based on inspiration The writer's/creator supposedly took from I can tell you that personally this is a major miss, at least for what I had hoped for. Though I'm sure I speak for many of them when I say we already had that sinking sensation from the first time we saw screenshots. There are just things that did not need a remake, and didn't need live action.", "a canijo", "Maybe, juuuust maybe Netflix’s production quality is slipping.\n\nThis isn’t the same Netflix that made House of Cards", "Can't really get funding for \"Independent space cowboy project\"", "People focus on Faye's outfit change but is anyone disappointed by Spike's outfit? Sure it's true enough but it looks cheap where it's been sew into place and doesn't wear like an actual suit. You can tell it's stiff fabric and for a guy like Spike you need something that moves and highlights his flowing movements.", "Booba", "The acting.", "Too soon", "> Spike talks too much, does too little\n\nBecause they got a 50 year old to play somebody in his late 20s, and it shows.", "Wow, people really hate you for admitting to liking something.", "Yeah - that’s why people have opinions about it…", "I like it. I can watch more of it. Is this real or just a spoof video.", "And yet they clearly are. Notice the Netflix logo that the person making this video just decided to put there for no apparent reason? Not to talk about the comments already mentioned, they are so obviously paid.", "Well that’s weird because I just looked it up, and I saw Bebop in the top #1 spot of more than a few and in the top 5 of others.\n\nI’ll post them here. Some rankers Bebop didn’t even place, but those had an obvious theme going and was based on one person’s opinion and not a score of audiences. These are audience scores mostly. \n\nhttps://m.imdb.com/list/ls057577566/\n\nhttps://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/list/best-anime-of-all-time/\n\nhttps://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-anime.php#best_wavg\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/25/top-25-best-anime-series-of-all-time%3Famp%3D1\n\nAnime Grand Prix publication ranked it as number 2 as one the greatest anime in their competition.\n\nA 2004 poll in Newtype USA, the US edition of the Japanese magazine Newtype, asked its readers to vote the \"Top 25 Anime Titles of All Time\"; Cowboy Bebop ranked 2nd on the list (after Neon Genesis Evangelion),\n\nAlso I’m sure since Google knows I’m a fan it’s showing me other publications.\n\nBut I’m just saying it’s very high if not the top on a lot of people’s lists.", "We’ll find out she’s his step daughter in season 2\n\nSeason 3 is a porn", "Vicious' Actor is straight laughable, and unfortunately John Cho can not nail the feeling of Spike at all, he is too awkward and a goofball. Jet's actor is straight up carrying spike in everyscene they are together in. The world is good and feels like bebop, pretty much every supporting actor i have seen has done great work. I just dont like the dialog, or the actors who play Spike or Vicious. Faye is... okay... i guess.", "I'd like to see your breakdown comparison because honestly Spike and Jet were damn close from what I've seen.", "If I don't like those shows, and don't really like too many marvel movies, where do I fit into the audience you guys are trying to figure out?\n\nI so much enjoyed the original anime and am now enjoying the live action. While it may not be perfect, the acting isn't even always too convincing, but I think they captured the vibe pretty well from what I remember.", "I mean it was a lose/lose for them when it comes to CB fans who can't look past the show. Either they try to do it 1 to 1 and it will be a guarantee fail, or they keep the main elements while going for a more original approach, which will also piss off the CB fans. They tried a half and half, which just makes it feel like you have a few good episodes surrounded by some very average ones.", "For sure man. Definitely.", "The live action is honestly pretty awesome.\n\nAre parts of it campy? Yes.\n\nDid it suffer slightly from being translated from 1998 Japanese to English, then suffer again being turned from anime into a ten episode single season in 2021 storytelling standards and culture? Possibly.\n\nBut if you rewatch the anime there are like twenty parts that would never translate well to live action in the first 4 episodes of the anime.\n\nNetflix had one shot at this, released in binge format, with a rabid cult base to appease.\n\nNo one will ever be perfectly happy when comparing it to the 1998 source.\n\nBut I think that they did a good job at bringing 90% of the major “beats” forward to live action.\n\nI had a an amazing time watching it, and as a sci-fi fan, it’s great to see sci-fi scenes and background on the screen in high quality and on the tongue of people in the world.\n\nThe more great sci-fi backdrop we see as commonplace means the deeper we can go into sci-fi being more acceptable as a storytelling medium.\n\nFor instance, look at the 2000’s era Dune miniseries on sci-fi compared to the blockbuster Dune that just came out.\n\nThey found a great way to bring that sci-fi world forward and make it vibe with 2021 expectations.\n\nHopefully this live action bebop can be received with a giant grain of salt and exist on its own without its cult following destroying it from the inside. \n\nI for one look forward to more and more anime going live action and more sci-fi stories being told.", "And in typical Netflix fashion they ignored quality lighting. \n\nIt always comes down to lighting.", "The writing of the skit is not fine.", "I went in with moderate expectations and I enjoyed it.\n\nThis is just another case where people already decided they hated it, so ignore anything and everything positive about it.\n\nIt's not a masterfully done series by any stretch, but the amount of hate I'm seeing is indicative of 40 year old fanboys who can't help but hate anything that isn't exactly how they themselves envisioned it.\n\nThe WOT series release is another example. The three episodes that've been released are not that bad. Some core elements were changed to help manage visual exposition (show don't tell) but overall the execution is fine.\n\nThe phrase is \"you can't please everyone\". It should be \"You can hardly please anyone.\"", "Yea. Just plain bad.", "It’s all just a…dream?", "Live action Jet is the best part of the series. His voice and intonation are almost 1:1 with dub Jet.", "This is true. Neon Genesis is often ranked higher depending on publications.\n\nIf someone wanted to argue that was a more culturally significant anime I would probably agree.\n\nBut to any defense Neon Genesis got worse lol it should have ended with the End of Evangelian and the original ending was hell.", "It wouldn't matter, because what makes it feel weird is the human facial expressions mixed with the voice. Animation allows you to exaggerate to match, but real life doesn't work that way.", "Based on these 2 clips, I think whoever said it was a high school play adaptation got it right. The actors and voice acting are terrible. All those same lines delivered in a playful way, by preferable someone under 20 would work great for Ed. Ed is playful and child-like. This is the right dialogue but delivered like someone read their lines for the first time 5 minutes earlier and decided to just grunt them out. The movements are rote and stale with no flow what so ever. The setting looks great and the costumes are decent. Bebop's characters never took themselves too seriously besides Jet and he was light hearted about it (which is why i think Jet works with this 'style') \n\n\nTLDR: Bebop was always playful and you can't force playfulness", "I thought Jet would be the worst for being the token \"We made him black\" in a netflix show but he's REALLY the only one that can act. Spike seems like a kid in a middle school play too nervous to read his lines properly, and Faye seems like an overambitious woman in her first acting class overemoting about everything without being able to seem authentic.", "they also reframed the scene with squarebox to make it look like a Multicam. It's actually a regular wide shot where you can see all the actors at once. It plays out differently when you are watching, but yes this is all the dialog from the scene.", "I don't feel like acting really fits the [uncanny valley curve](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley#/media/File:Mori_Uncanny_Valley.svg), its just kind of linear and this is towards the bottom.", "Wow this is 100% an improvement.", ">As always, live action has completely missed the mark.\n\nDoes it have to hit the same mark? At least its \"based on\" and not a straight remake.", "No my point still stands, you’ve seen those cars on posters, or in video games and movies. Sorry if you don’t know literally anything about cars lol\n\nMaybe a better example would be burger joints.\n\nEveryone knows McDonald’s or Wendy’s but lots of people agree 5 Guys or In N Out Burger is better. 5 guys is consistently ranked.\n\nJust because it’s more successful as a franchise business doesn’t mean it’s considered better, no one would put McDonald’s over 5 Guys.", "As someone who finished it and would give it a solid 6.5, you won't enjoy it at all if you try comparing it. I found they kept the beginning and end points of most plots, but completely changed the path there. Best to watch it as a CB alternate universe, especially with the changes to the end.", "The Ed is not that bad... She is super annoying in the show, too.", "Jet Black is definitely black", "i cant stop looking at that poofy hair on Harold.", "It's pretty good. The only real boon for playing lol while watching is being able to point at a few characters and say \"I know that guy!\" as well as knowing a few (but still hardly any actually) story beats ahead of time.", "I've watched one episode. Made the mistake of being sober. If I try to finish it, I'm going to need to get absolutely wasted and treat it like my own MST3K experience.", "he never was. Ed is the only 100% earthling and still has way darker skin. jet is definitely white.", "Ouch minus 22 rating. Never seen this much negative", "My hunch is Netflix only has a few years on the rights to stream most of these shows before they revert back to Funimation. \n\nBut they also have a clause where they can produce fresh material they can keep.\n\nSo in 3 years cowboy bebop anime will be on HBO, and Netflix will able to still deliver search results with their live action versions.\n\nKeep an eye out for the live action JoJo next.", "I think they put a ton of effort into the ship set and space effects, but some of the other sets did look a lil low budget", "They are filming one right now", "we're like ancient egypt now. our society has fully matured into remakes. like how they did just flat sideways people for 1000 years and they were fine with it", "That was fantastic", "I'm on mobile, no account needed", "I’m pretty sure that’s the whole point of the video… to set up how out of place and terrible the dialogue is", "Don’t know why you are getting so downvoted. People on Reddit just love to disagree with everything. \n\nI’ll admit I don’t particularly like John cho as Spike. Minus the cast. The actual show is pretty good and interesting. The action scenes are awesome as well. \n\nPeople need to chill out! This is way better then scarlet Jos ghost in the shell movie.", "Yeah I'm enjoying it thanks.", "For real, it's like a 15 year old wrote it. It's also so weird that they swear a bunch in general conversation. I donno bebop felt high class and effortless, this seems like trailer trash dialogue and the acting doesn't really help either.", "For real. This is how i feel about pretty much every netflix original anything except for stand up.", "Bruh…Millennial Americans have known for a long time.\n\nTell me something else edgy from 2002 though.", "Nope", "Man, this writing is sad, it's like the Director/writing team had no real passion about this.", "The response to the show has been fascinating and saddening, I enjoyed it up until the last episode. Sometimes it feels like a kung fu movie, sometimes has a bit of cop/gangster noir, and the Sci fi visuals are cool with references to landmark IPs. The dynamic between Jet and Spike is really fun, and having Jet try his best to be a father while also having to be out in dangerous situations is neat. It's not perfect by any means, especially with the last episode. There are certainly parts of the show I didn't care for but it didn't ruin the whole thing.\n\nI assume I'm just easily entertained but I've seen comparisons to the live action Death Note which I couldn't finish because it was so bad. I can only hope there's a second season so these nerds can get more mad", "The cartoon was a stylized pastiche of live action noir and action movie tropes done over the top because...it's a cartoon. Translating that back to live action seems to miss the point for why it was the way it was in the first place.", "Holy shot this makes me want to watch this even more now lol", "This is amazing, I have thus far avoided the Netflix show, and I will imagine this is what it's like.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nedit: is this really the rhythm of Beebop, because this is ridiculously on sitcom rhythm.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nedit 2: can you just re-do the entire show this way for me?", "Just please don't do this to Sandman", "Nice", "Yeah. They clearly went for vibes. The crew did get along well but you can't just have them talking about bidets.", "Am I crazy, or isn't this pretty bad?", "Okay first of all you’re comparing literally one of the biggest film franchises in cinema history. So while billions of people recognize they love Star Wars that’s not fair to compare to say something inside a medium like a single anime show. Star Wars had toys, video games, comics, shows, spin-off after spin-off that were produced. So when someone says they like Star Wars it means a very large spectrum of things they could mean.\n\nIt’s not a fair comparison at all. You’re trying to compare McDonald’s influence as a restaurant’s popularity to 5 guys or In ‘N Out Burger. The difference in quality and appreciation is insane.\n\nAlso actually to add to my point, Star Wars isn’t even that critically popular as a series as say Cowboy Bebop as the specific medium.\n\nStar Wars only has 2 films considered to be amazing S tier quality. A New Hope and Empire are the good ones people liked. The other films not so much.\n\nAll the other films. Going from Return of the Jedi onward have been disappointing to a lot of people and critically mediocre or downright failures. They made money! But their scores at first to now, have always gone down after hype faded. There are lots of examples of this in the Star Wars universe of something they made that rods the coat tails of those first two movies.\n\nSo the argument isn’t Cowboy Bebop is more popular than Harry Potter or Star Wars recognizably. But really for people that like Anime, Cowboy Bebop tends to be near or at the top of many many Anime lists.\n\nSo if you wanna get specific Star Wars for example wouldn’t place at all on this list because it’s not even an anime. But if you showed up and asked which is more culturally significant of course Star Wars is gonna win. But if you go based on critical score Star Wars would lose.\n\nAt least until now lol now that the Netflix show came out.\n\nMeanwhile Star Wars only has 2/11 films that even place on lists.", "Did they really rip off funny or die's captain planet instead of sticking with the source material?", "Felayne you mean?", "Just watched that last night", "You all obviously have never watched Seinfeld before have you?", "Username checks out. This conversation isn't about how well it's doing or going to do. The conversation is about why people are mad at the show. Learn about context before writing a comment- rather, saying anything at all, because you're just proving yourself to be a genuine idiot. \n\nI mean seriously, how tf are you gonna write this comment when I've already said, \"which is fine for general audiences\" like holy shit you're an idiot. Get blocked cuz I don't like seeing objectively stupid people speak their mind on this app.", "Ed has a sing-song voice that's not terribly annoying in the english version of the anime. This version of Ed seems like they mixed Dora the explorer with Pinky from Pinky and the Brain.", "Holy shit that was bad.", "I love that they ironically call each other \"men of culture\"", "You need to take a left at Vienna and wath The Third Man instead.", "This show is infinitely better when it does its own thing rather than try and replicate the original Anime.", "What I don't get about Avatar is why they feel a need to remake it.\n\nThere's like, 100 other Avatars before Aang and a whole bunch after. Why not do a new story in that universe?", "so just like witcher. mediocre story telling and dialogues with bad CGI despite having great source material A Netflix show.", "no accounting for poor taste", "He's black in the same way Buster from Author is black. Jokes but how he's seen", "It’s not a reboot. Why are you calling it that? It’s a live action series based on the animated series, not a reboot, not a remake. It’s an adaptation.", "Just taking it at face value I’m enjoying it. It was never going to live up to the anime, but it’s enjoyable for what it is. John Cho is pretty charming.", "Not sure I could ever make it through a whole episode, but yeah - I get the idea.", "Let's be honest, Parasite winning was surprising. Reminder that in 2019 the fucking Green Book won. I wouldn't say Green Book is a bad movie but the POV of it is tepid at best and to call that movie the best of the year is horrific. \n\nI'd say a OKAY movie wins like half the time. While actually arguable GREAT movies win the other half.", "They trying to appeal to the suicide squad modern fans of TV and film it seems. \n\nThe show is fun b and it nails SOME of the noir and campy grind house feel But it misses out on the slow jazz introspective almost spiritual music and slow establishing shots elements the original had :/\n\nLike I need more jupiter jazz part 2 ending vibes.", "Ok mr.smart, please show me a live action anime adaptation that is able to pace itself properly, commit to and achieve proper tone, and doesn’t have braindead writing.", "Jesus Christ, how fucked up is your life? Daily reminder Reddit is full of teenagers.", "It's good. Check it out. Or check out 'My name '.\n\nThat show is the shit", "Maybe because Legend of Korra didn't do as well? Or did it? I have not seen numbers. But people go with what they know, it's a safe investment to sell to the people giving money to the project.", "Jerry, Jason, and Julia just remake the whole show\n\nAnd Michael Richards as Vicious", "Faye is now just a bunch of bad jokes without the skill, charm, or wits of the original character.\n\nJet has a family that constantly gets in the way during episodes, like adding his family just makes me annoyed with him and his family. I wanted a show about space cowboy antics not to watch Jet almost miss his daughters dance recital. \n\nSpike is a shell of his anime counterpart.\n\nVicious and Julia are both laughable. Vicious in his appearance, Julia in her acting and character decisions. And ofc they just had to leave it open ended for more seasons.", "I feel like Im taking crazy pills. This Ed feels like when Rosie O'Donald played a mentally challanged woman in the mid 2000's\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCJze1IVGA", "That’s something to look forward to. Thanks", "Oh, Bertie.", "Honestly I think it looks fine visually, its the dialog that is super super bad", "That's the modern feminism at work for ya", "I'm curious how old you have to be to flex public hair? I've shaved that shit off for at least 10 years.", "Maybe they are maybe they aren't. We'll find out when it's released.", "That is my point. It IS a cultural phenomenon. Cowboy Bebop is simply, not. In any way. Cultural phenomenon transcends it's genre. \n\nMichael Jackson transcended pop and earned the respect of metal, hip hop and so many other artists and fanbases. \n\nStar Wars transcended Sci-Fi. \n\nBatman transcends Comics and everyone knows him. \n\nThe Rock transcended Pro Wrestling to become the biggest star today. \n\nCowboy Bebop simply, didn't. It's known in anime circles, not much outside. \n\nIf someone is going to brand something a \"cultural phenomenon\" then understand that doesn't just mean \"it's great, in it's own field\" it means it transcends. That is the point I am making here, nothing else. You throw \"tops anime fan lists\" around like that makes it one or matters in this situation when it really doesn't. That's 5 people sitting around voting on an online pole. Opposed to millions who lined up to see Phantom Menace for days before it was released. \n\nCULTURAL PHENOMENON is a huge thing, it is wrong to call Cowboy Bebop cultural phenomenon. If it was? It would have toys. Spin-offs. Video Games. It would transcend that niche anime show. To us? it is great and a work of art. To others? It's a mere question. \"what the heck is that?\" Do you understand my meaning here? I am not attacking the shows quality, just stating that is is not, in any way, shape or form, a \"cultural phenomenon\" as claimed. It just isn't. Any more than I am a sex symbol. \n\nThat's the last I'm going to put into this because I feel we're going in circles arguing points but not taking in each others. So take care of yourself and be well, space cowboy.", "I'm three episodes in and I have agree with you. I'm surprised and how well it's holding up as a live-action. \n\nOf course everyone will hate on it because you'll never get the feeling of watching the original the first time, and that's what people want. That just isn't possible, but that's the standard it will be held to.", "SAO isn't a representation of good anime though.", "You Americans were weird about that. We Asians didn't really care for her playing the role lmao.\n\n\n\nBut you guys have your own definition for racism everytime so whatever", "hmm it just looks TOOOO clean and perfect, almost like a photoshoot rather than a real place with grit", "Sword Art Online starts out so strong will a really interesting premise. And then it just falls into a dumpster and catches fire. Such a shame.", "You think black people are gonna disappear when we go into space?", "The \"filmmaking\" is fucking attrocious lmao. Some of the worst cinematography ever of all time ever.", "I never really had any issue with the actor being black... Until they started saying his full name. Now it's just sounds almost unsettling. Are they saying it as a pejorative? Nah.... Maybe.", "If you need more reinforcement, dota fan here who also thinks arcane is a fantastic show. Probably best show I've seen this year.", "What?? I completely thought this must be done skit they did. Honestly, maybe I’ll watch the show now.", "100% how I feel", "https://www.justjaredjr.com/2021/11/17/live-action-avatar-the-last-airbender-series-begins-filming-adds-3-to-cast/", "This seems like a bad lip reading or something.", "They should have included full penetration.", "Have you never seen sitcoms like [Friends](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BFSZ8XzWOM) or [BBT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKS3MGriZcs) with the laugh track removed? They're uncomfortable nightmares of unnatural pacing and bad jokes that will make you cringe so hard you'll grind your teeth into powder. And that gets even worse when the laugh track is edited out.\n\nThe point is those shows were written and performed with a laugh track in mind, and the laughter masks the unfunny jokes and fills the awkward pauses (which are intentional to give the live audience time to quiet down). It's easier to psychologically accept bad humour when other people are laughing.\n\nFrom what I've seen of Bebop, it's been written and shot this way but without any intention of ever having a laugh track, and so it feels uncomfortable to watch. The simple act of adding it back in tricks our brains into lowering our standards and watching it as a sitcom.", "Why does everyone think this captures the same spirit as the original? I'm sick of hearing \"It doesnt take itself seriously and neither did the original\", have you even watched the original?! That show handled some seriously heavy topics.\n\nThe very first episode were introduced to an woman who we think is pregnant trying to escape the law with his drug fueled violent lover. Killing gangsters by the dozens and eventually dying my police suicide. 1-2 episodes of levity doesn't make a show light hearted", "I've always thought of him as black, personally. Not least of which because of his voice actor, but also because light skinned black people exist.", "Jet Black.. I see what you did there", "That's the same way Ed feels in the anime. I was super annoyed by Ed the first time I tried watching the anime", "This is the last two minutes of the final episode", "Ed was equally cringe and annoying in the original", "The beginning of the scene is meh, but when she appears it's definitely very Seinfeld-ey and very Elaine-ey.\n\nPeople comparing this to Kramer have never watched Seinfeld. Daniella Pineda here captures Elaine's manic energy perfectly. It's amazing this wasn't originally filmed as an Elaine ripoff, she nails it. (All before the TV scene). \n\n\nAs a Cowboy Bebop show, no. But if someone wants to cast Danielle Pineda in either 1) A remake of anything JLD has done or 2) A new sitcom, I'd be all about it.", "It’s almost exactly the same as the cartoon from 1995.", "You’re gonna carry that yadda yadda yadda.", "Is it? Damn. I was excited to watch and haven’t read any reviews yet…", "No, they capture the effects of an anime style.\n\nPlease tell me how a character like Ed could be pulled off in real life. There are things you can do in both mediums, but there are also things you can’t.", "For sure is not the same. In 2015 they had only house of cards and lillehamer, and now they made tons of shows, some good, some bad. They've got a least 190 shows made or bought by them with at least 60% on rotten tomatoes. It's not bad for 6 years.", "Spiegel is specifically German, not necessarily Jewish. It means \"mirror.\"", "Faye storms in like Kramer and speaks just like Costanza", "But they aren't adaptations of original shows.", "Ed in the anime was a savant manic pixie child who was basically feral. Cute and endearing in a childish fan girl kinda way.\n\nThis Ed is not that, its like someone trying to force the quirky aspects and fundamentally misunderstanding the role. Much like Rosie in 2005.", "I watched the whole thing and generally enjoyed it. Definitely flawed, but it got better as it went on. Lot more noir feel in later episodes. I would say the first episode is the worst one", "Jesus christ.. yall take this shit way too seriously. It's just a fucking show. Holy fuck man.", "Jet sounds like Jet from the dub.", "I'm with you. It was a bit cringy and leaned too heavily into certain pairs of objects at times, but it boiled down a lot of the original and removed the excess while leaving plenty of room for additional seasons.", "I never played LoL, watched Arcane on a whim, and I am shocked at how good it was.", "That’s literally his name in the anime and he was voiced by a black man, so I’m pretty sure they didn’t do anything too tricky", "Sooooo watch the adaptation, but dont think of it as an actual good one, will make it more entertaining to watch?", "No, the \"men of culture\" thing is specifically when they reference watching something that is shit but has a girl with big boobs in it. The joke is that other people don't realize how good the anime is because they aren't cultured enough to understand the plot (read as boobs). \n\nIt has nothing to do with general anime viewers.", "Basically yeah. Its like a cowboy bebop fanfiction\n\n\nI'm not excusing the problems with it, trust me there are plenty....Ed....\n\n\n\nBut it can be entertaining as it's own thing", "Wait till you see my portfolio!", "I love this! It actually helps me to understand the choices in dialogue structure in the show", "I’ve seen Corridor Digital before my friend.\n\nAlso, You can’t replicate pacing of a 22 minute show in 2 minutes", "How they handled Vicious and Julia with Spike I hope this show crashes hard. I love John Cho but fuck they ruined some key aspects. We get the iconic dialogue exchange between Vicious and Spike but it's not handled in a good way.", "GitS movie was the first time I ever fell asleep in a theater.", "As a Foundation book reader, all the Cowboy Bebop and Wheel of Time fans don't know how good they have it.", "Really power to you. People gonna like what they like. I can only speak for what I don't like.\n\nA part that stuck out to me in episode 1, was when the girl with the red eye drives by and the camera action slows down, the most god awful saxophone starts playing, and it just screams CW style everything. \n\nI couldn't personally get past episode 1 as their introduction and how they are using Julia is really ham fisted and against everything the original story stood for.", "Most I've discussed the show with have interpreted him as black. Possibly because in the English dub, his voice actor is black. Regardless of if he is or isn't, it's disingenuous to deny an animatef character as a representation of a person of color just because they are \"not from earth.\"", "I see that now", "The issue is that much of it is a shot-for-shot remake of the original. (I've only watched the first episode, so maybe they deviate more after that). I was actually thinking while watching that they must have saved so much production time on things like story-boarding because they could literally just use the cartoon.\n\nWhen they go to so much effort to match the original so exactly, it makes any deviations especially glaring.", "Anime should never be adapted to live action. What they've done here to this anime classic is a disgrace, they took a gritty noir project filled to the brim with deep emotional characters and turned it into something more akin to spy kids or lazy town than any noir I've ever seen. At this pace I can't even imagine how bad the one piece anime is gonna be because this proved that Netflix has absolutley no ability to create a competent adaptation.", "Spike is nonchalant, cynical, and apathetic to himself and life as a whole. He’s a young dude, but because of his early syndicate life and subsequent betrayal and attempted murder, he’s basically disengaged from life. He rises to the occasion for a good fight and when something really engages him emotionally, but most of the time he’s pretty passive and comes off as lazy. He quips a fair amount in the original series, but they aren’t Marvel style quips, they are always sarcastic and almost frustrated funny quips. Like “ah fuck, here we go again.” He’s quiet and brooding and sullen. Being alive is almost a bother to him.\n\nWhat he’s not is a fucking upbeat quip machine who has constant back and forths with Jet and Faye. This scene is a perfect example. The anime never had a scene of the 3 of them just sitting around like a fucking sitcom. Spike is sarcastically cynically funny, he’s not having long comedic back and forths on the quirks of life. 90% of the time they show him on the ship he’s just laying down looking at the ceiling. \n\nThe show has him too upbeat and quirky. There’s none of the disdain for life that the anime version has. Cho is constantly quipping with Jet and there’s more dialogue in one episode of the show with Spike and Jet than 5 episodes of the anime.\n\nHe’s also not callous. Perfect example of this is literally the opening scene of the Netflix show vs the movie, which the show copied about 80%, just changing the location and adding a character.\n\nIn the anime when the dude takes a hostage Spike does the whole ‘whatever, we’re not here to help routine, fuck her,’ but it has a very specific purpose. He’s trying to get the bad guy to take the gun off of the hostage so he can shoot him without risk to the hostage. It sounds callous, but he’s just trying to be convincing so the bad guy actually believes Spike might shoot him even with a hostage. Spike does actually care tho, and never tries to do anything to put innocents in harms way.\n\nIn the show, Spike does a similar thing, but it comes off as callous because the whole scene is interrupted by another dude who shoots a hole in the ship. There’s no resolution. You don’t know if Spike would’ve actually shot or not or actually cared about the woman.\n\nThe dynamic between Jet and Spike is also all wrong. It’s not a Buddy cop show. They aren’t besties. Over half the time in the anime they aren’t even together. It’s a mutually beneficial relationship, but they are frequently doing things separately from each other, even when working together, and almost never interfere with each other’s personal lives. Faye and Jet basically aren’t in the climax to the anime. Spike and Faye aren’t with Jet at all during his personal arch late into the show. Jet and Spike aren’t involved in Faye’s past arch. These aren’t friends, they are 3 fractured adults in a mutually beneficial working relationship who seem like friends because they have sardonic cynical views of life.\n\nLet’s not even talk about how the show makes major changes to Jet and Fayes background and characters, like having a kid he’s not involved with. Wtf.\n\nCowboy Bebop the Netflix show is Firefly with names and locations from Cowboy Bebop. They aren’t the same characters.", "Thank for its not lethal weapon 5", "And then the movie just… ends.", "Cowboy be bop is worse than I thought. For Christ, I thought it was a good anime?", "holds up spork", "Well Helloooo Consumer…", "I was generalizing. But even nge doesn't feel as tight as cowboy bebop. Berserk is where its at though.", "When I see LOTR, I expect JRR Tolkeins LOTR. Did we get that? Absolutely, because the films were done with love for the source material and an understanding.\n\nThat's the problem: Directors/Studios like Netflix these days aren't focused on understanding the source material or what makes it special. They just check their data, see a number of search engine hits on said popular IP, and buy the rights. Draft up a quick script, get approved, and market the fuck outta it hoping to make the fans disillusioned into believing this might be good.\n\n\nNetflix could had made the live action work if they just followed the fucking original. You didn't need to change anything. Imagine instead of Smeagol it was Gimli because \"why not it adds more intensity to the movie hurrdurr\"", "That type of comment is a classic Reddit strategy, good to see people still utilizing it", "Faye has nice booby", "Arcane is so bad even just from the previews. I have to assume the only people liking are huge LoL fans.", "I've seen cosplayers do way, way better performing a scene during a masquerade competition.", "Edward was the worst part! Why is it that the only character they stayed 100% faithful to is the one character that 100% does not work in live action?", "Wait until you start paying $20 a month for your nextflix sub just for 1 tv.", "Not funny", "Steven Yeun is too good for this haha", "There isn't much room for intrerpretation when you're seeing the guy. He's white and always has been. If he were purple I'd be saying the same thing.", "Arcane?", "Seems about as bad as the anime version tbh. \n\nMaybe a little worse. Anime Ed is still really fucking annoying.", "Yeah, I kind of stopped watching the original when Ed came on and had to force myself to continue. I really hate Ed.", "You're trying to apply a rigid definition to a nebulous concept. That chart also puts humanoid robots (arguably the worst offenders) squarely outside the uncanny valley and zombies as being right in the middle. It's a plot of subjective opinions.\n\nWhen you have real people acting with the mannerisms of a synthetic medium like anime, that's uncanny valley, and I get to say it is because it's subjective. Plenty of people understood what the commenter above meant by it and the only ones complaining are the ones reee-ing because there are no robots involved.\n\nThere's nothing to suggest it's a one way street, that uncanny valley can only apply to synthetic or inanimate objects \"acting\" like people. I'd argue [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HfqxsKUnuU) is way deeper into the uncanny valley than fucking zombies, and it's a human acting as a robot.", "Are you watching dubbed? Most dubbed dialogue has cringe injected into it's vains. Most faithfully translated dialogue isn't really that bad unless you're watching a cringey show.", "I have a very short to-watch list and My Name is already on it. My buddies recommended that show a lot too so it must be real good.", "People hate it because it sucks. Stop apologizing for literally everything on all sides of life.", "Do you watch dubbed or subbed?", "Holy shit I legit thought this was a Seinfeld sifi parody / intended to be funny until I got to the comments. Brutal.", "I don't really get it, what am I watching? Is this Seinfeld? Why bebop?", "No reason not to give it a whirl. Yeah I'll give it a shot.", "As a child I always assumed he was black due to his voice and depiction in the show.", "So put the actress in a fucking bikini OR STOP PRETENDING YOU'RE MAKING THE SAME SHOW. How is that hard to understand?", "I've never understood the concept how a remake can \"ruin\" the original. If anything, a bad remake or interpretation makes the original look better, not worse.", "I’ve never seen this show but it looks awful from this clip.", "I never watched the anime, but have really enjoyed the first two episodes of the new series. Based on comments/reviews it seems I’m in the minority though.", "The casting for this show is spot on.", "Midnight Mass was great too. And I feel like Netflix has a lot more great movies on it recently too, just not new movies.", "We weren't really worried about offending you guys, it's more about things being harder for Asians over here. Leading roles for Japanese actresses are rare in the US - rewriting a story to cast a white woman is kind of low.", "Live action Ed is channeling Peewee Herman hard.", "It's good . My gf is so disappointed because she smoked through it and now she has to wait .", "The depiction is visual and you can visually see that he's white. [Don't really see how you can argue with something this obvious.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cowboybebop/images/f/fb/Jet.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210924223310&path-prefix=es)", "The show is terrible.", "Yeah it's like casting John Cho for Shang-Chi instead of Simu Liu. At least Marvel tried to find a young Asian actor that would fit the role, could act well and also be able to do the physical side of the role. With John Cho's casting it just feels so uninspired and ''easy''.", "So basically like the live-action Ghost in the Shell, right?", "yeah I would actually consider watching this as a sitcom, rather than something to be taken seriously. And it might even do well for itself.", "Watch the abridged series. It's actually just better all around.", "All I did was mention the shape shape of the curve, the reason its called the uncanny valley.\n\nI didn't mention anything at all about synthetic or inanimate objects. And nobody is complaining or \"reee-ing\". Just some people trying to have a civil discourse, while you're the one now being hostile and accusatory.", "Because Netflix doesn't give a fuck. They figured they can make shit movies/shows and still make money because the data they gather from users is worth a fuckton more.\n\nStill, their algorithm fucking sucks. If it wasn't for The Witcher I would had unsubbed from Netflix already. They're barely hanging on imo and no shit ain't gonna be surprised if we get another sub rate increase soon", "Good way to describe it. They made it so much campier than the original. Not bad in it's own right but it's not like the original in that way.", "Lmao where the hell are you paying 20$ for netflix a month? Most people pay like 9$ for basic or 13$. At most it's 17$ for like 4 concurrent streams but idk many people who have that plan. Almost everyone I know pays 9$.", "Classic Bebop Nuwtbags 😎", "Lol seems my comments pissed off some neckbeards \nI don't mind shows that ate about nothing but OG bebop is too much tryhard edgy with Jet being the most interesting character.\n\nBut with you description I may give it a try.", "There are many black characters in Cowboy Bebop. Jet isn't one of them. But I also don't take issue with them using a black actor - it works well", "> Ed in the anime was a savant manic pixie child who was basically feral. Cute and endearing in a childish fan girl kinda way.\n\nThis right here. The Netflx Ed is just straight up annoying with no endearing quality. She's too \"stiff\" in her animations", "me too, i really liked it lol.", "Arcane begs to differ.", "They talked more in this clip then they do in an entire episode of the anime.", "I wasn't interested in this series because it looked so shit in the trailers. But I'd 100% fully watch it with this horrendous laughtrack because it fits like a glove and seems to perfectly satirize the show.", "Jet is paler than spike lol. They even comment on it in Toys in the Attic.\n\nBut he could totally be black. He's like Piccolo or Skeeter.", "That just confirms one is being made. Not whether a live action version will exist after it's finished.", "Did he just take a bite ... and PUT IT BACK‽‽", "Like, you saw their lips, right?", "and I say to myself....I need exact chaaaange", "What the hell are you talking about", "Faye's sexuality is an integral part of her character arc and the tragedy of her life. \n\nNflix shouldn't have tried if they can't handle sexual themes in a mature manner. Whitewashed, soulless cash grab.", "Is that an actual criticism against Jazz? Really?", "While I think it’s impossible to beat the OG, I really enjoyed how for each episode of the live action they transitioned the intro bgm into the theme instead of a hard cut. Led to some interesting composition", "Holy shit.... That's exactly it.", "It's like eating cookie dough.", "I agree he was miscast, but we don't need to dump on the guy. He's in his 50s. He's playing a kid half his age. Of course it doesn't work, but you can't blame him for that. Shit, look at the shape He's in, and the garbage dialog he was given. \n\nHe deserves an award just for delivering some of those lines with a straight face!", "Well yeah. My point was moreso \"He was from Space, so he stops being black\" is some weird form of racial discourse I don't expect in this century.", "For 1 tv it's $13.99. I don't know how you're paying $9. I said $20 because it will be inevitable when Netflix raise the price. Last increase was in 2019. Calm down bro", "Yeah it’s this sort of unforced error that really brings the show down", "I'm so glad I did not watch it. \nIt would spoil all the good memories of the original that I carry with me.", "I see you're a man of culture yourself", "Exactly, and then when you finally get to the episodes that give Jet some connections and backstory it has that much more weight.", ">The fight scenes are weirdly artificial too. Like a series of set pieces and in between each one they pose for the camera.\n\nThat's an editing problem.", "Interpretation is the entire thing when it comes to art. It's all open to interpretation. There can be authorial intent but that is essentially meaningless once put in front of a viewer. \n\nRegardless of his depiction in the anime, he is black, inarguably, in the live iteration. That isn't \"wrong,\" it's just different. No work is immutable, nor should it be.", "It's still great imo", "I think it's impossible or near impossible to effectively create live-action Ed. A lot of the charm are the movements which just plain can't be recreated by actual people. \n\nI never felt like Ed was annoying character and I'm instantly annoyed by live action Ed. I really don't understand why they didn't just try to make more Cowboy Bebop anime.", "I thought Spike and Jet had very good chemistry. It's Faye that is the odd person out, and I think I put my finger on why towards the end of the season. Spike and Jet are well balanced in terms of their ratio between comedy schtick and serious/emotional layering. Faye is kind of comic relief through almost the entire series. Her story is just as tragic as the other two, but is treated with very little gravitas comparatively. The Eco Terrorist episode is comedy, her mom is comedy, and Faye herself is usually over-the-top quipping or sarcastic. I found myself really wanting to take her seriously after a while and not being given many opportunities. It makes her feel like she isn't a real person, which makes her scenes with Spike and Jet stick out in a way where she doesn't gel with the other two (with a few examples where this isn't the case, but usually these are comedy scenes).\n\nI'm hoping the show will get confirmed for season 2 and that someone with a more concise vision of where to take this will either take over, or join the team. For an anime as tonally everywhere* as Cowboy Bebop, this wasn't the worst attempt. It was good enough that I would come back for another season. I loved the OG anime and I realistically did not expect a 1 for 1 adaptation, but even with the ingredients Netflix was working with, I think they could have presented a better dish.", "Probably the black voice actor, since people can be different skin tones with the same ethnicity. \n\nIt doesn't really matter.", "Ed just tanned af", "Jewish? He has a dutch/german name.", "I guess I meant it like, \"this is the actual show and not some skit or some deleted scenes?\"", "I see you Critters. I see you.", "Goddammit I was enjoying the show until now", "I agree the voice is grating and annoying but a lot of charm of Ed's characters are his movements which a person just can't do. The one thing they could have matched was the voice and they failed at even that. This whole thing was such a foolish decision.", "Julia wasn't even a fucking character in the og, she was a prize to be won. Like an infinity stone.\n\nThe Julia change was good.", "And terrible", "It's about Netflix learning from the Electronic Arts playbook: buying franchises with the sole purpose of torturing and murdering them.", "I wasn't being hostile and accusatory.\n\n>I didn't mention anything at all about synthetic or inanimate objects\n\nHelps to read the articles you post instead of just looking at the pictures. Now that's being hostile and accusatory.", "I agree that someone with a better artistic vision would be a welcome addition to the live action series. One thing that kept ocurring to me was that all of their main characters are lonely and isolated in some way, yet they weren't using the giant empty vastness of space, or these big hollow spaceships, to visually express those emotions. Not with any frequency, anyway. They put so much effort into the world and visuals, but rarely used them to take a breath with the camera and enhance the storytelling.", "As you can see by the comments, it's 50/50. I got bored after 4 episodes.", "Okay, she literally does the Cosmo Kramer slide-in and then they accuse her of being on Cosmic Krank\n\nThis is an videographical quotation", "I think this is the point people miss. Julia and Viscous were basically non characters in the original.", "I liked the live action version as well as the anime. Great job Netflix, Jet was especially great", "Yeah, I’ve only seen the first episode so far but Spike’s suit just doesn’t work. It looks like nobody wears a suit jacket cut like that for a reason. The way Spike’s jacket is always wrinkled in the anime would make you think it’s very thin material, but in the live action it looks like it’s made of cardboard to hold the shape and “look like the anime” with that big swoopy part across the chest.", ">The whole of Hollywood couldn't find a charismatic young Asian actor. Just sad. \n\nThe factor you're missing is one who actually wanted to do a live action anime. \n\nI mean, the track record for those are 0 for what, 5 now?", "I like Cho in the role actually, it's also kind of a surprise he's 49, doesn't seem it.", "Tbh this is why a lot of the dialogue and direction is so cringe in the live action. They're trying too much to match an anime from 1998. \n\nFor example, Faye coming into this scene m, bumping into the waiter and wanting beer over water is the type of thing you would see in anime. However if looks super forced and unauthentic if live action. \n\nA good comparison is the Batman movies in the 90s. They really went for a comic booky style and it was terrible.", "Dude, accusing people of \"ree-ing\" is both hostile and accusatory", "That was definitely a key part to Jet's past, which is the main theme to the entire show. Difficult to understand why they make that choice.", "As someone who was obsessed with anime in high school and has been watching on and off for the last 20 years.....there is hardly any true representation of good anime. Most of is shit, and style over substance. Even a lot of the \"good\" stuff has a ton of cringe to it, like weird fan-service shit, horny dialogue, and just straight childish writing.", "Needed some slap base sprinkled throughout", "That and the original heavily built upon the idea that you can't run away from you past no matter how much you try. But in the LA, the character's pasts are front and center and core to the plot of the show. It removes any subtlety about why the characters are the way they are.", "Oh goodness", "Lord of the Rings has a lot more fans around the world to make money off of. Cowboy Bebop wasn't made by Netflix for Cowboy Bebop anime fans. It was made to appeal to the widest possible margin of their subscriber base. Changes are both uncomfortable, and inevitable, but not all of them are outright bad. I actually liked the addition of Jet Black's family. It gave the first season a more relatable human heartbeat than a wild Syndicate crime story was going to be able to provide by itself.\n\nAs a big fan of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, my perspective is that change is okay- as long as the change is within the margins of what makes me enjoy the source material in the first place AND as long as that change is executed well. Cowboy Bebop made some changes where I can see what they were thinking, but the execution was not good. I'm hopeful for a season 2 where they can focus more on reeling some of this stuff in and delivering a tighter vision.", ">Katarina \n\nyou can't even write \"Katherina\" properly... we can't trust you with a critique of a show, sorry.", "But we must fight over it with strangers! It's such a good use of our time!", "It is fan made. She show does not have the laugh track. The cuts and dialogue are all from the show", "Yeah I’m enjoying it for what it is - more campy, noir, etc.", "> The technical part of the filmmaking process is really good\n\nWhat?! No it isn't! It's as bad as the dialogue! Cinematography is extremely amateurish, there's a ridiculous overabundance of awful dutch angles, most of the scenes look clearly shot in a studio, the selection of lenses and focal lengths is on the same basic level as a YouTube channel, and they throw random colored lights in the scene to try to cover up how flat everything looks. They even do the cheap \"day-for-night\" effect (shooting during day end try to edit to look like night). The show is awful even on a technical level.", "You're not wrong, but all that really means is they shouldn't have remade it in the first place and made a fresh IP. Hollywood (which Netflix desperately wants to be) is too afraid to be risky.", "o7", "The fact that at the time of me posting this, most of the top comments have only 300 upvotes and the actual post already has 4.7k upvotes, means a lot of manipulation to get this where it’s at, and basically just advertisement. Thanks r/videos!", "Depends what you’re okay with. It’s more campy and noir (which are the adjectives I keep falling back on). I consider it a significant remix on the original, and it turns out I’m okay with that because if I want the original I can go watch the original.", "Props to that actress for going for it. I wish they'd kept her personality and androgyny consistent with the original. I wonder if Watanabe approved the shooting script.", "In a couple of days, you'll be dead longer than I knew you. Thanks for the job.", "Who did they get for Ed?", "Nah it's a reference to Critical Role", "My biggest problem with the original is the ages. Jet feels like he should be in his late 50s. Can't wait to retire, but needs than one big score to afford it. Spike went to war, made bestest buddies with the dude with a goddamn space shuttle, rose to the top of the crime world, bailed out, and had a few years of drifting with Jet before we met him. How could he be any younger than 35?", "Yes, and that was the point. They weren’t MEANT to be fleshed out characters. Not every goddamn little character needs a full backstory and fleshing out. Cowboy Bebop was about Spike, Jet, and Faye.\n\nVicious and Julia were basically ideas. They weren’t meant to feel real. That’s why they didn’t get much screen time. That’s why Spike’s life felt like a dream. Because their motivations and backstories didn’t matter to the story of Spike Spiegal. Julia was this unobtainable vision of perfection to Spike that ruined his life. She was never a real thing to him. And Vicious was the relentless reminder of a life that he can’t escape or forget. Spike was a killer. You don’t get to just move on and forget and pretend like it never happened. Vicious and the Syndicate were more like a force of nature, and Julia Spike’s unrealistic ideal of love.\n\nBuilding out the characters to give them an overly complex plot where Julia ends up become a bad guy was a stupid change. It does nothing for Spike’s story and feels hamfisted as fuck. Not everyone needs to be a fucking manstermind. Regular people exist.\n\nIt’s called storytelling.", "That's exactly when I decided that it was intentional and not just someone added a laugh track.", "I said it in another thread but that scene looks like something out of 90s science show Beakman's World. That could be a good thing but boy is it not hitting right here.", "im glad the better in every way possible series Samurai Champloo isn't as popular as this was so shitflix wont ever fucking ruin it with a live action version ... this is just BAD!\n\n\nterribad bad", ">It’s called storytelling.\n\n\nThe original isn't perfect either.\n\nStorytelling where Julia can't pass the Beschdel test for 20 episodes, and that doesn't feel hamfisted? Come on now. You know that doesn't fly anymore, right? She still was this unobtainable vision of perfection to Spike, she just has her own goals now.", " About as bad as the original show.", "Andrew Koji definitely should've been Spike lol he's got the moves and the acting chops and damn he's beautiful", "Sure, because remaking an anime show is such a new concept. And adding it the same type of banter done in Marvel movies?! Such a fresh new take and nothing like the type of dialogue done in those movies in the last 10 years! Can't believe people didn't enjoy all of these new ideas!", "These BEEF AND BELL PEPPERS are makin' me thirsty.", "I actually thought this was a fan made sci Fi Seinfeld for like 3 minutes. Why do people keep trying to make anime like this", "That was a Hack bad acting competition", "Idk, my dad now loves cowboy bebop , and so that's something. I didn't even know this was coming out and he was very offended when I asked him when he started watching anime.", "They should've kept her more \"abstract\" and used effects and intricate shots. You don't know if Ed is a boy or a girl for a while in the OG and it's part of what's endearing about what otherwise might be an annoying character. Ed is a genius with ADHD, maybe on the spectrum. There's a way to make that beautiful and whimsical, especially with 20 years of hindsight.", "Lol you do know there are plenty of Asian people and groups who have used this example as horrible Hollywood whitewashing. It's not just whiney white americans.", "Not directly to you. Perhaps \"losing their shit\" would have been a better choice of words, but there's no way to express frustration at pedants piling on a guy because his use of a term didn't fit their rigid definition without being \"hostile and accusatory.\"", "Because \n that scene is purposelessly build as a homage of Seinfeld. Same timing, \n same humour. The original has a lot of parody and homage too.", "Give it a shot, I like it a lot. This video is purposefully cringy. The show isn't as edited like this and there is no laugh track. It's actually a somewhat funny scene.", "Fuck they got vicious so goddamn wrong", ">It's the only way I got through the entire Harry Potter series.\n\nGot me through Twilight in college too!", "That is exactly the point where writers and directors need to understand how much of the original material is adaptable and how much isn't", "Jazz is a ladder.", "Is she supposed to be like Dee from It's Always Sunny?", "The amount of commenters that don't get the joke is another generational gap in the making.", "K", "I loved it so much! It really raised the bar for Netflix live action animes. I know that's a genre with a super low bar, but wow Bebop was easily 10x better than all the others. I think that's in large part because of Bebop. Bebop has always been a more grounded anime, with minimal anime physics and much more human characters compared to most anime.", "The lip fillers on Julia in the show are really bothering me.", "I like it too, but with any anime fandom, anything less than a perfect masterpiece is apparently dogshit. I've seen a few legit complaints about high level things, but most are people just saying \"I won't even watch it\" or, \"I saw 20 minutes sober and turned it off\". They never intended to give it a chance.", "John Cho is not good in this role. It’s not as bad as it could have been but it’s not good.", "That is the exact moment I realized how badly they fucked up. . . Faye isn’t supposed to be a fighter, she is a manipulative con artist with good sources.", "This live action adaptation is very JK Rowling-y.", "The pacing of the dialogue definitely feels like it leaves space for laughs; it feels completely unnatural and wooden without the laughtrack to obscure the bad writing.", "In this case, it should've been. It's a very shitty live action. If you want to do your own thing, do your own thing. Don't take something else's name.", "Do not write another sketch about Krang from the TMNT. No one knows who Krang is. It would be a waste of time to talk about Krang on Reddit.", "Lol no", "The voice actor is Unsho Ishizuka and he's not black. If someone decided to make the dub with a woman would you say Jet's transgender or a woman? That's dumb. Take the simpsons for example. Bart's a boy even though he's voiced by a woman. Jet's a white dude regardless of the dub voice actor.", "I didn't watched a single episode of the anime..\nI watched the series as the first time and I really liked it..\nPeople are saying it's not upto anime standards..\nBut what is 🤔🤔", "The first episode is by far the most clunky with the actors clearly struggling with the dialog and bringing the characters to life. Every other episode, I've just been geeking out to see more Bebop. I started just thinking about it in a multi-verse kinda way with the world similar but different and it's been reallly enjoyable", "When Spike was in the ship in the first episode, it looked worse than x fighter pilots in a new hope.", "If the whole series was redone this way I might make it past the first episode.", "Haha, I kind of felt that way about the OG Cowboy Bebop. I think they actually did a better job at making the mob drama interesting than they did in the original anime. It has to be in there because it's the main overarching plot from the anime.", "Lol no, I watched it then wrote this a while after so maybe some details were missing. The anime gave Katarina the choice to kill Asimov, whereas the Netflix show let him get killed by Faye(I think). That's a major difference there. It changed the tone of the ending.", "WAIT THIS ISNT AN SNL SKETCH??", "I am so here for this", "I clicked cause I thought it would be about jazz. Now I don't understand what it is", "It's not THAT funny.", "Yet for some reason most Redditors support Ben Affleck as Batman. I'll take John Cho playing Viscous as Spike's identical twin before I accept the other travesty.", "I don’t think semantics are going to save this show.", "Yup.", "You are the first person I've seen give this very honest feedback that I completely agree with. First two episodes were shot for shot remakes of their anime counterparts, I absolutely loved the Tijuana episode and the cast. \n\nEpisode three was a complete fever dream compared to those two, and episode four didn't follow it up with much better giving Vicious and Julia a storyline -- BUT episode five again was a mix of shot for shot storytelling and some new stuff. \n\nOverall I've enjoyed my time spent, people online are so finicky.", "Its almost like people have different opinions and there is not one single way to get an unified voice to represent an entire group of people.", "When saw live action Bebop pop up, I thought omg they didn't! I can't believe they're trying it with Bebop, I gotta see this.\n\nWow it was really good. I watch all their live action animes, this one raises the bar by a lot. It's still live action anime, but it's the first one I feel like I could actually recommend to people.", "I’m not sure what you mean, they have been planning this for a while, and announced about a week ago that filming of the live action series has begun. It was delayed due to COVID", "I too, have been trying to think after getting lobotomized by this show", "Yeah no clue what these people are on about. It seems they just want to complain for the sake of complaining a la Star Wars prequals/sequels.", "Like he's literally the opposite. Vicious should be a cold unfeeling monster. This man child is so so so off the mark.", "Exactly.", "Lol. I don't remember saying anything that made me seen not calm idk how you are picturing me replying to you. \n\nAnyway [I pay 9$. Here is the pricing right from their site.](https://i.imgur.com/INgvLoq.png)", "Lol I know, on its own, it's decent. \nThe changes to Asimov and Katarina, however were significant. The death of Asimov was to be at the hands of Katarina, not Faye or the syndicate or the police. She was supposed to make the choice to kill him after witnessing his descent into madness.\n\nI watched death note with the same mindset and find it also watchable.\nPs, Jet is the only character who is done right (minus him being a family man), change my mind.", "Jesus Christ of course they made Faye gay. Why does every \"strong\" female character have to be gay these days? Netflix is really bad about this. It feels like they are trying to sell lesbianism to women honestly.", "I like it so far. Seems like it upsets the nerds which is generally a good thing, since nerds suck ass. \n\nI think they got the tone right, considering anime is for children and this show isn't. \n\nI think the fight scenes are good, particularly in the ways Cho Channels Lee in his fighting style and Chan in his use of physical comedy/props and setting. I'm assuming both were intentional.", "I really don't like what they did to Faye", "Aren't black characters voiced by non-black Japanese VAs all the time though? Doesn't that kind of invalidate your entire point?", "What is this comment thread supposed to look like to you? What's your ideal comment here?\n\n\"I kind of like this but relative to world hunger it means nothing to my life\"\n\n\"I'm on my way to the gym, wanted to pop in real quick and say it's not good. Not that I care!\"\n\n\"What's up with politics? Anyway, the dialogue is pretty bad and I don't like Faye's hair.\"", "I was originally disappointed and thought he wasn't a good fit physically or personality speaking. \n\nFriends of mine tried sending me all kinds of shot of his monologues since I had only seen him in the old White Castle movie. I wasn't impressed and I really think he has been the weakest, but I'm still enjoying the remake.", "This is hard to watch, literally belongs to r/cringetopia", "Minefield", "I didn't realize that they cast Dee Reynolds as Faye.", "TANK starts playing in background.", "yeah it can get bad", "Oh yeah and she's gay. Because you can't have a strong female character these days without making them gay. It's like they're selling women on being lesbians these days. \"Wanna be a girl boss, well eat that puss bitch\".", "No need to question them. They just enjoy different aspects in their media than you do. Neither is right or wrong imo. Now if you were putting them in charge of picking or developing media that you were going to consume it’d be fair to question them since their opinions / biases would affect you.", "Fan made ones just seem so better now. \n\n\n[https://youtu.be/WhBSgH-\\_1tI](https://youtu.be/WhBSgH-_1tI)", "I'm here for that. I love Lethal Weapon and Cowboy Bebop and this is fun.", "Is the acting horrible the entire time? This was tough to watch just due to the wooden deliveries. The Elaine rip-off had a character down but even she barely seemed to memorize her lines and delivered them poorly", "I'm refusing to watch it until it's canceled.", "I like how nobody is mentioning the dress or bullet hole, but are making fun of her implied drug use.", "They'll make Katara gay mark my words.", "Perhaps if you think how the last seasons of game of thrones \"ruin\" the earlier seasons?", "For the love of god, they need to replace Andre Nemec. He fundamentally does NOT understand Cowboy Bebop. Literally every interview he does proves that. There's no depth, just quirky garbage. He at least needs to watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkXFBPGZpTM", "It’s anime dialogue. Performed by humans.", "Why on earth did they take the eco terrorists from turning people into monkeys into trees? What a dumb change.\n\nI'm betting they changed the evil old woman too into something super lame. Bet the three dumb brothers are gone now too and there's a slightly smarter sister in the mix that's basically the 'head stooge' like Moe from the three stooges...", "Did Jet put the bread back in the basket after taking a bite out?!", "I've seen the original and I've been telling my friends that if they can decouple their expectations from the anime, then they'll probably like it. It's a fun sci-fi romp that is equal parts light-hearted and silly, and sometimes emotional. I really liked a lot of the action and fight choreography too. That said, I know a lot of people are going to be disappointed because it feels so tonally different from the anime", "His VA is japanese, no?", "I only watched the first episode and noped the fuck out, but then again maybe I spoiled myself by having watched the anime just before and ruined myself with things like pacing, story telling, and character building.", "Hollywood types don't want femme fatales anymore, they want 'stronk woman that can go toe to toe with any man'. \n\nIt's boring, lame, and incredibly fake. Faye was cool because she used her feminine wiles and street-tough personality to beat people. This, this is just bad...", "Bro, it's so bad it can't ruin the original. It's like watching a completely different show.", "then why am i watching it?", "Wait, they made her gay?! She's very much straight but had that aire about her that she was just bored of sex and what not and liked the thrill of bounty hunting and chasing that next big score.\n\nFucking Netflix, ruining everything. \n\nDid you see what they did with Ed? Oh man she's just terrible...", "That one decision doomed the series. He’s the main character and has a ton of pressure on him to entertain and build the character up. He just seems like some boring dude", ">Spyke", "Just play the right notes!", "You know how every once in a while there's an anime that people say is really good dubbed?\n\nCowboy Bebop is among the top of those anime.", "\"I'm so spoiled with the flood of content I can't appreciate anything anymore and it bothers me when other people still can\"\n\nThe OG is close to perfect so with that in mind, you can tell a lot of hard work went into this show and it's really not that bad. Stylistically it's above average and a cool little world (missing noir and vibe from the episodes I've seen but still). Also, first seasons are shitty sometimes so you never know what can happen between them. Hopefully they see the problems and fix them but maybe I'm giving people too much credit.", "fortunately, this is one of the only places you can do it in the show. It's funny how most people are judging the show off the memes that are made but in reality they are far and few and not as cringe as the memes make them out to be.", "Its already really good not dubbed though. without replacing the original performance that the animators tailored the animation for…\n\nLol im wrong? You people downvoting actually think the original non English dub is not good?", "5 episodes in. Honestly waaaaayyy better than i expected. Not really as good as it could have been, but i really like it.", "Is this the real acting ... because ...", "He got vitiligo, same as Michael Jackson... lucky bastard...", "The comedy is equal to a really bad SNL skit. Acting isn’t helping either", "Japanese have this odd habit of making everyone in their animations look western; they just never look asian and when they do, the eyes at least still belie that they're western or only partially asian.\n\nI don't get it but if south korea is any indicator, I think many asians prefer the eye's of westerners over theirs as per the surgeries they get in SK to make them look more western.", "He definitely is not black. Japanese animation studios knew how to make people black back then, you know?", "The music is good, but without the depth of the original anime the music tends to not tonally fit, imo. Almost like it's just copy pasted on top of scenes that don't fit.", "Saw the first episode and the original is one of my favorites ever. It's not as good, but it's definitely better than the the 6.something that the show is getting. The cgi is great. Jet is great, Spike is fine, Faye is passable. If you take it on its own merits, it's fine.", "That's exactly right.\n\nIt seemed like a lot of attention to detail was payed to how everything in the show looked, but not how everything interacted.", "No he's saying this is an insult to the original anime. Its a joke.", "I love dutch angles when used properly, I love them in photos particularly, but holy moly did Thor hurt my soul. It was so often it became comedic.", "Am I the only person who doesn't hate the series?\n\nSo far I thought it's been pretty good", "Shouldn't be surprised after what they did to Death Note", "Yeah I am enjoying that.", "3... 2... 1... Let's jam.", "You might say it's pretty youngatbeingold", "So what you're saying is Gen Z has shit taste?", "Watch the anime first. The LA is okay but the end was a travesty.", "if you have fond memories of CBB, don't. I literally watched the first episode of the live action, then watched the original episode of the anime, and the anime was way better.", "This is like some Mendella Effect shit or something because no one remembers that Jet wasn’t black.", "I'm on ep 3 and enjoying it on its own terms.", "Most Americans saw this anime on Cartoon Network or adult swim I think so it would be English dub, which I prefer for this anime as well as Trigun cause the voice acting is really fucking good in English especially the main characters.", "GitS is joyless and bleak, it would have been weird if the film adaptation wasn't.", "All art is iterative, and this coming out in no way tarnishes what was already here. We can't let the quality of the end product dictate what can and cannot be inspiration or reiterated upon. That's some shitty gatekeeping. Sorry you didn't like it (i havent watched it yet but I was certain it would suck as soon as I heard it was happening), but that is irrelevant regarding what the creators can and cannot (or should and should not) do.", "Choosing to remake a story within a popular IP instead of doing some thing new and creative is what they almost always do and shouldn't surprise anyone anymore.", "I know snl has deteriorated but give them a little credit at least.", "/r/masochism\n thank me later", "Was very disappointed Kramer never showed up. Gorgeous dress, though!", "yeah, like he worked his way up in the crime syndicate, as a teen early 20s. decided to get out in late 20's. got super fucked up, had to recover and then lay low for a while. so not 50's but def 38-40", "It does and he is just fighting with you to fight. Your points are valid and I bet a lot of us agree with all of it.\n\nI have black family members who are very light skin and some that are darker. Skin tone doesn’t always confirm peoples ethnicity. I’m Cuban but my skin is white as a cloud, my mom is straight from Havana and has blond hair and blue eyes.\n\nUsually in anime everyone is voiced by a non mixed Japanese person regardless of their color on screen, happens all the time.", "Gren* typo:\n\nhttps://cowboybebop.fandom.com/wiki/Grencia_Mars_Elijah_Guo_Eckener\n\nTo this\n\nhttps://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F6%2F2021%2F11%2F01%2FCowboy-BeBop_4.jpg", "When was Faye actually a femme fatale? She tried to be one at times, but she was literally always a bratty little sister.", "Speed Racer and the Wachowski’s beg to differ about “can’t just do anime in real life”", "Getting away from shitty anime tropes can only make it better.", "I've watched four episodes so far. Without getting spoilery, the main trio if fine, with Jet and Spike's banter being amusing, even if it's a bit different. (They're more chummy, kind of evidenced with this clip.) There's only one character so far that I think was not handled well... And likely more memes of him m will be out soon and become unavoidable.\n\nSo far... It's an enjoyable enough remix, save for the one character. The other gripe I have is subtly is lost. That would be the one bit of writing I definitely give the naysayers. Less is more.\n\nI say give it s watch and remember... The old show is still there, and we get Kanno and Seatbelts revisiting their OST.", "That might be the only exception to this rule", "So, considering you just said that, and anime is by and large Japanese, you must think subs are always better.\n\nSo I have to ask, what did you hope to gain by asking if his VA is Japanese? Or by telling us the Japanese version is also good?\n\nForgive me for being forward, but are you just here subtly trying to push the sub superiority thing?\n\nIf I am wrong, then I'm sorry. I'm just sick of people dismissing dubs out of hand because they're not the original.", "Well it's on Netflix so you have anywhere between the next 20 minutes and 3 years.", "Plenty of people I've talked to who have never watched the original said this was trash. Myself included. I've never watched the original.", "What I don't get is how the stuff they added is so completely different it seems like they didn't even watch the original. The characters seem like different people whenever new stuff is added.", ">Lol im wrong? You people downvoting actually think the original non English dub is not good?\n\nBuddy, you should get off reddit. It's clearly fueling your insecurities because nobody said any of that nonsense you're arguing against.", "this convinced me to never watch it, thank you.", "It's good, but even the \"sub only\" crowd tends to think the dub is better. I think the show being essentially a love letter to Western cinema helps. The characters themselves are not particularly Japanese at all. It's called Cowboy Bebop, two distinctly American things, for a reason.", "That doesn't really refute what he said. There are exceptions to every rule.", "I'm one of those rare people that saw it subbed first. Still thought the dub was better.", "In most TV shows, they don't train the fight choreography like Keanu did for John Wick.\n\nThey shoot the fight scene in an afternoon, maybe 2 takes after lunch and the actors only got to work with the choreographers that morning. Doesn't matter, move on they got more material and only so much time/budget. All the Netflix shows do this. \n\nAnother example is set quality varying widely. Most of them are OK, like the main area of the Bebop however.... there is an episode shot on a \"main street\" type location and it looks like a 1950's set. I was actually a bit impressed with the swordfish shots tho, I thought it came out as good as one could hope.", "It’s hard to believe it’s real cause it’s so god damn awful. Like an snl skit.", "Holy shit that’s fucking awful", "It doesn’t look like it based on this garbage, lol.", "Naaah, Kramer and Neuman are the eco-terrorists.", "Why and how could it ruin the original show? \n\nWhen has an adaptation been able to ruin enjoyment of the source? I can kinda understand sequels ruining the originals - like the new star wars but an adaptation is separately", "all I asked is that they remain faithful to the anime. Going shot-for-shot but altering the script and history is not staying faithful", "It’s because it’s aimed at 15 year old demographic", "It’s basically an episode of the Big Bang Theory. Wtf", "Yeah, i want to see it but not enough to create an account on Vimeo", "This is how I see most of the Netflix/Amazon/etc originals. They all feel as if they are made to be as campy as possible. Honestly a lot of these originals feel like just a more expensive version of those Syfy original movies.", "Is this real? Seems like I better not taint my nostalgia for the originals with the new trash.", "The only reason GoT didn't disappear overnight was because all the discussion around it was replaced with just how bad it ended.\n\nIt's honestly impressive how it went down.", "There is a lot of hate going around about the show, but i enjoy it a lot. There is some stuff that isn't great, but overall, it's a fun show.\n\nI say this after having watched the original and the movie twice this year.", "Every fan of the anime does", "Ed also wears her goggles most of the time outside. If this was Ed, she'd either sit down while talking to Spike on the ground or meet him face to face while doing a handstand. Idk wtf that was, but it's like weird that Ed is looking for Spike to stop bad people when I feel like most of the anime she's really just on her own journey to Earth and just needed a ride, but was willing to help do stuff too.", "Finally, a thorough review", "Why does 90% of what Netflix makes suck so much?", "Nope. Because I was just stating how dumb it is to argue what ethnicity a character is just by looking at the voice actor. The character is what is shown on-screen and what's shown is a white dude.", "Isn’t the show TV-MA?", "Im just referring to the downvotes with no reply to what i said. Which is essentially saying I’m wrong.", "I didn't hate ghost in a shell. Was entertaining", "it’s not easy but clearly they didn’t want to take any creative liberties", "Paul Verhooven has entered the chat", "Yeah it was already established before that scene. If I'm correct, Spike didn't know yet though? I wanna say that's another reason that iconic shot with her in space stood out to me because he wants to save her so much, especially since he thinks she's carrying a baby. Or maybe he did know she was just hiding the redeye and still wanted to save her anyway.\n\nGoddamm what a great scene either way.", "Like I just said. If you want to do your own thing, do your own thing. Don't take someone else's work just because of the name recognition.", "Dont let reddit tell you anything.\n\nSo many great things could have gotten ruined by me listening to all these armchair fucktards in here.", "Cultural Vandalism", "Doesnt Watanabe also prefer the English dub?", "Fay was from earth, no? \n\nI thought she wound up in cryosleep because she got caught up in the gate 'catastrophe' that destroyed the moon and left the earth a cratered wasteland, which is what drove the push to colonize the rest of the solar system so fast.", "I only do subs for 99% of what I watch. The 1% is cowboy bebop. Actually, I kind of like Evengelion as well.", "The JAZZ MAN", "What it gets rated by a review board does not necessarily correlate with who the creators and marketing people know is going to watch it. Case in point- like every M rated online video game.\n\nif anything, the mature rating probably makes it that much more appealing to the 14-15 year old demographic that this dialogue was clearly written to entertain.", "I don't know, I don't keep up with most anime related news and trivia.", "Don’t you get it?! It’s trees… I mean nutbags.", "As someone who loves the anime, yes. You just have to get over the fact that its not like the original. It is going down a different path. Though it might eventually make it to the same destination.", "Reminds me of bad Tik Tok. Like that lady that does interpretive dance while talking about important issues.", "Not everyone is required to reply to your comment. They don't owe you a reply. This is what I meant about your insecurities showing: nobody replied except for downvotes so you start clapping back with all the things you *THINK* they wanna say, but you're really just arguing with your own subconscious.\n\nThink about it like this: you're in a room having a loud conversation, and the downvotes are just everyone who is listening but not part of the conversation.", "I don't think people are being finicky. I think that Cowboy Bebop is widely regarded as one of the best animes of all time and unless it was going to be equal quality or better, what was the point of doing a live action adaptation? I've met multiple people in my life who in their own words said something along the lines of \"I don't watch anime but I've seen Cowboy Bebop and it is amazing\" --- Now they've taken all the amazing characters, the world, the story lines and... made them talk about fucking bidets while sitting in a bar eating and drinking? It felt so fucking cringe watching this scene and frankly I find it disrespectful to the overall high quality of the original.", "Yeah pretty much.", "He had green eyes and pale skin. That’s like saying Darth Vader has to be black because of James earl jones", "Yeah if we compare Jet is the only one. Cho gets real close with Spike sometimes but overall he acts him differently.", "All that’s left is for Spike and Vicious to greet each other like Jerry and Newman — which isn’t really all that different.", "Damn I need to see the movie.", "Dude stfu i know how reddit works ive been here for more than a decade. Im asking the downvoters to respond to my comment as to how i am wrong. If you knew reddit you would know the downvote button is not a disagree button. (But that is how it is always used anyway)", "I loved the original as a kid and an adult. Idk why all the hate on the live action. It's super fun. If you came for jazz and space cowboys you will not be disappointed.", "I don’t understand what I just watched. Can I have that time of my life back? Not that I’d do anything useful with it, it just feels more wasted than normal.", "I’d enjoy this if it were just an isolated funny clip. But something tells me the whole thing is like this snd it feels like nothing but a well-produced parody. I wish they’d keep more to the pacing and tone of the original. They are all talking too fast and swearing too much.", "Everything about the original stands up but the upscaled CG.", "Yeah I was mostly reminded of that because they lifted scenes and imagery from the '95 movie AND Stand Alone Complex, while deviating from the plots of both of those things entirely", "When I saw the second Matrix movie, I withheld judgement, to see if the third movie would deliver and adequately explain the ending of the second. It didn't, so the second movie suffered as a result.", "Yeah Ed's voice in the English dub saved her character from being unbearably annoying to me. \n\nHer cadence was so strange and hyper that the voice itself was entertaining on its own to me lol. Made the character work.", "For what it is, a live action representation of a classic anime series, it wasn't as bad as it could have been...\n\nHave you seen the live action Fullmetal alchemist? Compared to that monstrosity, cowboy bebop live action is downright okay.\n\nThey did a good job capturing the mood, and some of the characters but they butchered the story and the characters they didnt do a good job capturing the essence of are just sooo cringe it hurts (poor ed...)\n\nThe original series was what got me into anime in the first place so i couldn't help but be a little excited when i heard they were going to try a live action version, but really I knew that best case scenario something like this was going to be the outcome. Overall I thought it was entertaining, but, really feel like they should have left it alone. \n\nNow a cowboy bebop video game, thats something I've been wanting to see for decades at this point... there are so many ways to do it and I think it would be the perfect backdrop to a fighter/rpg/space shooter combo.", "lmao.\n\nMy point is that \"You people downvoting actually think the original non English dub is not good?\" is clearly you assuming what people are thinking. And the need to edit your comment and call people out because you got downvotes? Insecure.\n\n>If you knew reddit you would know the downvote button is not a disagree button.\n\nThere you go again, assuming you know what other people know/are thinking.", "Really is that why they casted a guy in his 50s who looks way too old for this part to my 40 year old eyes", "And one piece.", "Didn't have to scroll very far to find somebody whining about them using a black actor. Great. \n🤦", "Essentially you’re right. If that was a guess, it was a damn good one. Two brothers and one sister, albeit not much smarter. She does get a pair at the end but it was literally for a second.\n\nThe tree thing was just silly. Not to mention it just seemed they wanted to show the transformation. With some blood.\n\nI don’t know why they felt they had to change so much. I get some changes to keep it fresh but they did quite a bit.", "It would've helped if they'd reeled her in a bit and didn't pick an actor that looks to be an adult playing a 12-13 year old.", "No idea. There’s a video of it above. I had the exact same reaction as Spike - “too loud”, “shut up”, and then I went to sleep.", "> I mean you can't really accurately critique Avatar yet.\n\nOh, yes. I fucking can. Name 3 Netflix anime/cartoon live action adaptations that have been better than the source material. I double dare you.", "The sets are amazingly well done. The costume design was pretty well done. The casting was pretty good. The cinematography is okay in a cartoony sort of way, but if the angles were any more dutch the camera operators would be wearing wooden shoes.\n\nThe dialogue suffers from this late 2010's into 20's bullshit where there has to be comedic relief every 3 minutes (I blame those stupid fucking comicbook movies the zoomers like so much). Then again, the original cartoon had a lot of stuff like that thrown in, though I don't think it was quite as egregious.", "Jet looks like he's about my skin color, and I'm half.", "Netflix Death Note is so hilariously bad and over the top it's good. It's actually really funny and entertaining if you're into that. \n\nNetflix bebop is just bad.", "As bad of taste as that was i still enjoyed it much more than that ed scene.\n\nMight just be because its rosie odonald in a role that fits her lol", "You’ve captured my feelings and experience on the subject perfectly. I feel foolish for getting my hopes up now after the previous Netflix adaptations, but I did just because of how good the original was in my mind.", "> what was the point of doing a live action adaptation?\n\nBecause it's fun and movies/shows will always be made in hope of an audience.\n\nThe original still exists and not liking the live-action doesn't change it's merit.", "To be fair, and I say this as a colossal One Piece fan, the anime has kind of done that plenty to itself since it caught up to Oda and ddrraaggss eevveerryytthhiinngg oouutt ssoo mmuucchh. \n\nI mean hell, Luffy has 'beam struggles' with people, when punching. Like the climax against everybody's favourite Pinkboi, Doffy. They stretch out a moment in the manga that was instantaneous, to be a slow 2 minute struggle before the punch somehow regains all the momentum lost when the punch was stopped. And Rebecca flashbacks. They really should have changed it to seasonal, instead of continuous. Let the manga advance then play catchup. One Piece rant over. I love it but sometimes I get so mad at the anime.", "But you had to have the BIG salad", "Clicked for the side boob.", "Light skin black people exist. I look white. I am not white.", "I think her character was more a total loser who wanted you to believe she was a femme fatal. Every time she tries to do something cool, it tends to blow up in her face and maker her look like an even bigger loser.", "...that would have stopped you when you were 15?", "I'd just cast a high energy boy and tone the character down a little, make him constantly climb on shit and touch every tool he sees.", "It’s not impossible for a black person to have colored eyes. But it’s several orders of magnitude rarer for them to have them than a white person", "It's decent", "Vicious Malfoy", "Very dumb way to look at art. We would never have gotten Westworld, Dune, or any superhero movie ever if everyone followed your advice. Or we would be stuck watching campy batman movies instead of seeing how the character evolved over time to a dark and gritty interpretation.", "I thought it was pretty good for Netflix", "As an adaptation though, It should be judged in comparison to what it was adapted from.", "Don't leave things in the fridge!", "But his last name is spiegel, and they made jet black. Why does spike have to be Asian even though his hair and name seem to indicate otherwise but jet is fine being whoever? It seems disingenuous. \n\nI really don't think any of the main characters were intended to be Asian at all but were made Asian because it's an Asian property and people thought they should be for that reason.", "They're beboppin' and scattin' and I'm losin' it!", "also", "I love the kind of show that will actually just kill me.", "No, its just you're entirely ignorant of the issues that exist in America.", "This is what too many anime fans don't get about anime. It gets away with so much that live action movies and shows just can't. It's cringe 99.999% of the time, so adaptations need to reinvent your favorite show in order to work.\n\nThis Bebop was too faithful to an anime, so it's awkward and bad.", "I actually liked it and most people I talked to like it I am confusion", "I know who Krang is and would love to hear someone's Krang x Jet crossover fanfic. But only if it has more than 2 fucking minutes of Ed in there, playing chess with some old crazy senile guy in the background.", "Exactly. Hell the only reason they even accepted her in the anime was because of her different skill set and usefulness, plus some manipulation on her part. This Faye would've been left on the rock they found her on.", "I liked him as Storm Shadow in the newest GI Joe movie.", "I watched the Live Action and enjoyed it, but felt like it missed the core of what made Bebop, Bebop. It felt like they made a show about the 70s/80s with retro cyberpunk aesthetics but failed to capture the SPACE aspect.\n\nAlso, Spike is supposed to be COOL. He isn't about being an asshole. That may be a side effect at times, but that isn't the main appeal.", "Sounds exactly like the “From Dusk Till Dawn” TV series.", "Fae is from Singapore in the original series", "In this case, I think it's just another example of movie makers not understanding the source material.\n\nSame crap happened with the new seasons of FLCL. Yea they were japanese and all, but they never saw the original nor understood what it was getting at, so the second and third season were just heavily mediocre.", ">He has a dutch/german name.\n\nSo do a lot of Jewish people. Like...\"Seinfeld\".", "Isn't that just a name he chose? Like you would want to throw people off your trail with a name like that.\n\nIf I looked racially ambiguous (Asian character with western face) and wanted to hide from my past (that ties with the Syndicate which reads as Space Yakuza to me), I would lean towards the white/western last name and identity.", "probably because he speaks japanese", "I haven’t seen the anime and watched this and can tell some scenes were shot for shot just because of how the sequence translated. Some definitely felt like an anime-to-live-action scene", "Because he's described as looking asian by the writer and is based on Yusaku Matsuda and Bruce Lee (who was part german).", "Only Mamoru Oshii's take on GitS is \"joyless and bleak\". Ever heard of Tachikomas?", "You can't possibly know it was just for name recognition. Someone had an idea to bring this franchise into live action.", "Don't be naive.", "Because people like you keep them making billions. You're watching trash and admit you don't know what it's for.\n\nThey buy franchises, write idiotic dialog and plots and people eat them up because they're flashy and fancy. Zero quality content.", "> If that was a guess, it was a damn good one. Two brothers and one sister, albeit not much smarter. She does get a pair at the end but it was literally for a second.\n\nIt was a guess, and one based solely on just how predictable and dumb netflix is.\n\nI really wish they'd move away from their current meta when it comes to making movies/shows. They're ruining everything they touch.", "Yeah, I agree with that interpretation.", "Yeah, I intentionally didn't rewatch the OG this year so I would not think about it as much when I watched the live-action. Gonna rewatch the OG this week.", "Except that you're talking about adaptations from books/comic books and are more open to interpretation + original stories derived from a specific character. Whereas this copies characters, aesthetic, story and music and does pretty much everything worse. So no, it's not a dumb way to look at art. It's the correct way to look at this specific case.", "Unfortunately, this is not the case. Sorry bud.", "idiot puts words in my mouth. eat your downvotes.", "I remember an episode of imaginary worlds about bebop quoted him saying something along the lines of the visual experience being really important so he didn't want people focusing on subtitles.", "This... is actually better", "if that the way you know the ethnicity of a fantasy charachter, then kratos, the greek god of war in the games, is black because of his voice actor. makes no sense. im not against a blackwashing jet black. im just stating it.", "There are Jewish families with the German last name Spiegel, but it's a German last name.", "if you believe that, then for you, kratos, the greek god of war in the games, is black because of his VA.", "Fair enough", "Every main character in the show except Jet feels completely wrong to me. I feel bad for that actor because he's the only one who does the original character justice. \n\nEd is supposed to be a literal kid, not an adult who just acts like a 10 year old. Spike is supposed to be mid-twenties and very smooth, but he's stiff as a fucking board and comes off awkward the entire time. Faye is literally a femme fatale, but the show casts her like a fighter little-sister???\n\nI have no idea what the writers/producers were thinking with the direction they took this, but it isn't even close to the original Bebop.", "You aren't the first in the thread to say that and I can't wrap my head around it. Jet. What are you seeing that made his performances good?\n\nHe couldn't deliver a single line convincingly. Nearly every scene he was in, he sucked the energy out of it. He sounded like he was trying to do a vulcan half the time, high school play the other half.", "I'm pretty sure the only thing we can definitely say is that he is fair skinned lol.", "Lol, I wish I was capable of better expressing my feelings about this remake. I just don't know how to put into words some of the problems I've noticed about it, unfortunately.", "They don’t have big salads", "So wait, was this an actual scene from the live action movie with Seinfeld sound affects playing over it? Or was this all a skit meant to be funny. I honestly can’t tell", "What? This is an adaptation as well. From animation to live action. I see no meaningful difference as to why some adaptations get leeway but this one does not. The quality being lower is entirely subjective and beside the point. Some adaptations can be good and some can be bad. Some change things for the better and some for the worst. It’s so arbitrary to take one example and say “oh they have leeway to change things because I say so” but then the other example you say “no they copied the characters and story but it’s worse by my standards”. You don’t see any contradiction there? You complained that they changed too much but now you say they copied too many things too?", "…are you implying that the original GitS isn’t joyless and bleak?", "Haha was this an Uncle Ruckus reference?", "I agree, I've learned to not compare live action remakes to the original since Death Note's live remake. Some things just aren't realistic enough to hold our suspension of disbelief in live action shows so I understand some of the changes made.", "Yes it literally is the case.", "From someone who works in the industry: it's because 90% of them aren't any good at what they do, and the 10% who are competent are held back either by poor production scheduling/budget management or by suits running the production who have zero passion for the source material because they're just out to get the day's work done, make a buck, and move on.", "Exactly. I’m disappointed. They’ve changed the style. The original was a unique style (with characters and themes) and that was what made it special. Now they seemed to have changed it for today’s style and theme.\n\nThey did it a disservice.", "“Jazz is stupid! I mean, just play the right notes!”", "There is no single correct way to judge a creative endeavour - even one that's remaking an older piece of work.\n\nThink of it like this. Everyone here on this thread now knows that it is not a faithful adaptation. So now we know that - why wouldn't you want to then switch to judging it on its' own merits, which is completely valid and will allow you to enjoy it based on those merits?\n\nOnly comparing to the original, you're setting yourself up for an unenjoyable 10 hours. Do you want people to have their experience of the show ruined by constantly thinking \"this isn't as good as the anime\" while watching?", "Or maybe... Just maybe Ive seen the anime more times then I care to admit. Netflix does what they want and let's be real, you've watched this or will watch this version of the show. Enough negative feedback will help make season 2 better and hopefully more in line with how the anime is. Look at Witcher on Netflix. Enough negativity and they've fixed a lot of fan feedback issues. And yes FogPanda..I do know what the show is for, having been watching anime for the past 25yrs and being 35 I've got a decent idea as to what cowboy bebop is. Too bad it's been slammed by Hollywood.", "That's valid. Also plenty of people saying it's enjoyable on its' own merits, without needing to pretend it's a good show like the last comment said.", "Yes... 👉👈🥺", "Wow this looks really really bad", "You never go full retard.", "A was left when ap", "Watched the first episode yesterday. I havnt watched the anime in YEARS. But I enjoyed it. Campy fun with over the top action. Though I should note im not snobby about anime like some are, though I do adamantly hate Evolution and Death Note(netflix). I am able to watch things and not say oMg ItS not LiKE dA sOuRce.", "That show was over the top, but great haha", "Look man, I'm just saying clearly a lot of people agree with me that they assumed he was black. Is it really that big of a deal?", "Nothing about this scene is attempting to mimic the style of the anime, and that is why it is bad. It is clear that both the director and the writer(s) suffered from a fundamental misunderstanding of the anime series. To write it off as impossible to adapt is to criticize people with a proper imagination and respect for source material.", "Tell me you haven't watched the Cowboy Bebop anime without telling me you haven't watched the Cowboy Bebop anime.", "Good on you. And let's also be real, then, that I'm not gonna watch this show. This one clip tells me it's not worth it. Congratulations, I guess, on liking Cowboy Bebop.", "Okay, but are they master of their domain?", "Declinefeld", "> eat your downvotes.\n\nOk. Imagine thinking I care", "Because she hadn't joined the crew by this point. All they know is that the last time they dealt with her, she stole the Swordfish and cost them a bounty.", "Don’t forget! Ed is now non binary. When will Hollywood producers stop trying to pander to Twitter/ former tumblr crowds?", "Out of curiosity, would you hold the same view if Spike was gay and Julia was a man in the original?\n\nBut regardless, you still don’t seem to be realizing that it doesn’t matter if Julia is her own person with her own goals. The story is about SPIKE and how Julia intersects with his life. We only need as much about her as relates to Spike. Cowboy Bebop absolutely has its flaws. Julia isn’t one of them.", "I think most of the characters are WAY off base. Vicious is the worst by far. Jet is probably the only character that generally feels right.", "The sex scenes are okay", "I think it's better that in the anime, he never got a chance to be her dad because he was in prison. That makes more sense to me than what happened in the anime. Like, if they really thought he was a dirty cop, then he should have been imprisoned. And the Walking Sally quest made a great use of his searching for toy stores that didn't make sense with how they did the Londes story, which I liked overall, except that they had to go to Earth to destroy the mainframe.", "seriously - why are people upvoting them?", "Nah I'm not really into the fan service stuff. I do find a few anime to have very interested stories and cool visuals though. Was just trying to explain something to you so people didn't think you were an idiot making a statement about a joke you don't understand as not actually serious. I'm so glad you turned out not to be one of those losers that can't handle a little polite correction.", "A live action remake could work if they put the budget and passion into doing it right. Netflix did neither, it seems.\n\nPersonally, I would've just been happy with an animated remake.", "Suddenly really interested in this show again. This winter has some excellent tv lined up. As long as all the episodes are edited to look like Seinfeld that is.", "Thank God. I was reading through this thread and losing my mind at possibly being the only person enjoying this series.", "The campiness is part of the appeal for me.", "The dialogue on Bebop has less flair than Gilmore Girls. It's embarrassingly bad.", "Or rather they just did a bad job translating it", ">with the final episode having an \"inspired\" choice in narrative direction that did not sit well with me at all.\n\nFucking SAME. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck their \"improvements\" to the narrative.", "The actual live action remake. Not the parody.", "Spike was Asian?", "Nah fam, the first episode is probably the \"best\" of them. I keep seeing people going \"it's not that bad\" after saying \"I just watched the first episode\". If you think the changes to the first episode were bad, you have no clue.", "Remember when video game adaptations weren't good? And now we got multiple great video adaptions right now? \n\nAlso the adaptation doesn't have to be better than the original to still at least be a decent adaptation. Your mind is weird dude.", "Hahahahahaha what an asshole!", "Except the \"merit\" of the live action version is so far below the merit of the original. I'm not bashing people for liking it, that is their prerogative. But I'm also not going to sit here and pretend it is anywhere close to the quality of the original source material.", "It's pure trash. \n\n\nSeriously when is Netflix going to stop doing this, it's becoming a national embarrassment.", "That only make the writing worse, actually.", "It's not a reboot, it's a live action remake.", "You like TANK!?", "Most things have less flair than Gilmore Girls’ dialogue. That show was 70 minutes of banter crammed into 22 minutes every week.", "Oh holy fuck, this is hilariously bad. I'm so glad I was never even remotely interested in this despite Bebop being one of my favorite anime.", "Yeah, the biggest flaw to me is that they didn't make this noir. The pacing needs to slow way down so the visuals can linger while the soft jazzy blues simmer in the background.\n\nThis feels more like a punchy buddy cop comedy now.", "Because modern audiences need everything spelled out to them apparently (according to execs).", "Fuck I thought it was some extra skit they did for fun and did some half ass sub par Seinfeld acting on purpose. I wasn't going to watch it, but at least now I can tell others not to.", "The anime is my goat. I never expected the show to be anything more than a tribute to.\n\nI'm 4 ep. in, and while certainly not a masterpiece. I am enjoying it more than I yell at the screen (mainly at the vicious plot, some cringey ass lines, and the missing block for Ed in the intro).\n\nSo far it is fun, however I expect I am not gonna like how the Julia story ends.", "Don't be arrogant.", "If you were to only watch one episode, it should be episode 9. It does a fantastic job of filling in the gaps about spikes backstory that only gets implied or briefly mentioned in the anime. Ep 9 was the diamond in the rough of the series for me", "It physically hurts every time I open that link.", "It was pretty good.", "It doesn't matter how bad it it [because](https://youtu.be/s-abGTw2sSk)\n\n\"Nobody is going to make scifi if we don't also let them make garbage, for the encouragement\" I have no idea what your reasoning here is mate\n\nIt is so wierd how non fans just pour out of the woodwork to protect a steaming turd on the basis that not liking media is bad and mean\n\nCowboy Bebop of Netflix is not sci-fi. Marvel movies have scrambled your brain, it is an action comedy with sci-fi concepts far and hard to the rear. They're just trying to grab their own scoop of the marvel effect", "> fake disorder teens on tiktok\n\nThe . . . what? \n\nYou know what? Never-mind, I don't want to know. I'm having a good day today.", ">Out of curiosity, would you hold the same view if Spike was gay and Julia was a man in the original?\n\nUh, yeah, the Julia/Vicious/Fearless arc is the dumbest shit from the original. Nobody actually liked it on it's own merit. They could have cut the whole fucking thing and I would have graded it an improvement. \n\nThe story is about the setting, and Spike is one of the vessels.", "I didn't say that was why, and I didn't say \"know\" I said \"interpret.\" I simply put out there that Jet being assumed black is a very common issue, and offered up a possible explanation as to why that may be the case.", "And you are a dumbass enabler of shitty content. You probably are one of those idiots that continue to watch TMNT and Transformers movies, giving producers the signal that we are OK with terrible movies and series.", "It felt that way because you watched it as a kid, lol. This is exactly the way the dialog on the cartoon sounds.", "I dunno man, load up the first episode of the cartoon, there’s a lot of dialog about beef with broccoli and other normal complaints… kind of seems like what they were going for.", "This line was so cheesy I actually enjoyed it", "I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about, sorry. I wouldn’t even classify gunpla as a toy per se.", "Yeah, Spike always acted like he was in his 30s, but they specifically chose to canonically make him 27 as a reference to the [27 Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club).", "The dialog in the cartoon is no better, tbh. People just have rose tinted nostalgia goggles.", "Whoa this dude is even more cooler than Vicious and shadow the hedgehog combined", "[This is ambiguous skin tone?](https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/759/533/74/cowboy-bebop-ein-spike-spiegel-ed-jet-black-1680x1050-anime-cowboy-bebop-hd-art-wallpaper-preview.jpg). He's whiter than Spike.\n\nNot that I care of course, other than making sure we all agree that Jet was in fact white in the anime. I don't care if he's black in the live action adaptation.", "I think the post is referring to the edits, not the show itself", "You're gonna carry that nutbag", "You're in a thread about a parody of a live action recreation of a popular older anime series . . .", "To be fair I'd say that dialogue was by far the worst point in the show. Honestly besides a few of those cringe moments, I enjoyed it overall. Still like the anime way more, but I enjoyed some of the different takes", "https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1267295/\n\nhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213338/\n\nIf you want to be mathematic about it.\n\nEveryone who has seen the anime would never watch a live action version instead of the anime which took thousands of hand drawn frames and amazing writers/directors. Bebop doesn't need a remake, this is all for money and attention. This anime tops the charts in Myanimelist and imdb. What are the chances that netflix makes a remake that overshadows the anime, seriously, the chances were very slim.\n\nYet there are still people who will say \"I prefer live action over anime anyway\". Those people are just being close minded at that point.", "Then these Netflix adaptations are made for you bud.\n\nYou may also enjoys shows such as The Big Bang Theory.", ">\tYou are the first person I've seen give this ~~very honest~~ feedback that I completely agree with.\n\nFtfy. \n\nPeople online aren’t finicky or dishonest, it’s just a really bad remake of a really great show. Enjoying it more than most people do is fine, I enjoy plenty of stuff everyone hates… but that doesn’t mean people are picky or something, it just means the show sucks.", "I mean, Jet would wax weirdly philosophical and then talk about feng shui or chess or beef and rice or whatever. I could see him going on about bidets. \n\nI can't see him being so dumb he doesn't know what one is, or Spike actually engaging that much.\n\nAnd while Faye looks dead on perfect, her dialogue is just terrible.", "I think he is asking to elaborate because he doesn't know what people are thinking. \n\nYou're telling him to shut the fuck up because he doesn't deserve a response.\n\nIn some way, your behavior is more damaging and toxic than his", "I'm glad Jet am Ien are easily the best characters. Missing with Jets backstory ruins the main vibe of Bebop but I do feel like IF he had a daughter it is how he'd handle it.", "I'm not. Thanks for the tip, though.", "There's an episode with black people and magic mushrooms, too", "The anime could work as live action. They just got everything wrong. The original show is heavily influenced by music, and lets the style of music dictate the pacing of the scene, not the other way around. Even the episode names are all musical.\n\nSlow jazzy blues for the noir scenes where camera shots linger on the scenery, upbeat tempo jazz with snares for action scenes, etc. There are storylines revolving around musicians, the undying kid being a harmonica blues player, Gren being a sax player, etc. Even Spike's age was a reference to the 27 Club, a group of famous musicians who died at the age of 27.\n\nThe live action remake throws away all of that, and in many cases has no music playing at all. It would be like if Samurai Champloo didn't have a soundtrack. The music makes the show, and the live action remake misses out completely.", "Final episode of the season, that is. (Slight Spoilers) The Netflix adaptation ends with an adaptation of Ballad of Fallen Angels. It takes some creative liberties with a particular character that, even if this hadn't been an adaptation of the anime, seems to some-what appear out of nowhere.", "They just butchered everything about the anime except for the aesthetic was well done. I feel like Jet was cast well (probably the only casting I like besides the guy from big shots was also good) but the writing gets worse and worse the more it goes on\n\nOh and Ein was cast great too. Looks just like a corgi!", "I'd watch Seinfeld but Asian-American", "It's frequently repeated but I've never seen that claim sourced. It's also extremely unlikely a director would say they prefer someone else's dub, that'd be very disrespectful to the actors they worked with on the original. This is most likely just a myth born from people overhyping the English dub.", "There it is. This makes a lot of sense.", "No but fear of my parents would", "Yeah I would call that ambiguous. I'm not OC or even a fan of any of this shit and on first glance I would say that's ambiguous.", "The dialogue with Spike and Jet not really that different from the dialogue on the show. The cursing makes it a little weird and edgy.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nFaye is way different from the show though imo.", "Yes, and they look ridiculous, which is why these are comedy videos. Very well done, from a technical standpoint, and very true to form, but I'd have a hard time taking a live-action show seriously if they did these things.", "Honestly more entertaining than anything in the actual show", "I know little about the show outside reddit stuff but weirdly I always thought this jewish friend of mine would make a great Spike. He's just got an uncanny resemblance.", "Just for pedantry's sake, the original GitS really isn't joyless. But the first anime based on it definitely has a different tone.", "Lol I’ll take that", "Seek therapy. Enjoy the block cuz u got serious mental issues.", "Dude either I'm colorblind, you're colorblind, or we're perceiving separate realities.", "That's why bending an existing IP towards something new seems more valuable than trying to remake a beloved story.\n\nWhen trying to remake something so highly rated, you're always going to be compared to perfection. By making something new yet solidly mediocre in the same universe, at worst you're enhancing the value of an existing IP you already own.", "Warrior is so good. Do yourself a favor and check it out.", "Besides the general look? The gruff delivery and the way he carries himself. He'd do way better if the dialogue didn't blow.", "It’s not terrible visually (from at least what I’ve seen), but it also lost all of its noir touches which were so important for its overall feel.", "Maybe they tried and he saw the vibe they were going for and said 'nah'.", "It's fun, and it's not terrible. I agree with the Vicious plot, but for the most part I'm okay with some of the changes made for the format. I was of the belief that an adaptation would be completely impossible and had low expectations, so I'm pleasantly surprised.\n\nI'm on episode 6 and they did mention Ed hhe Hacker, so I'm holding out hope she shows up.", "I think it will always be inherent difficult to translate any animated shows dialogue to live action", "As a writer, I would’ve been completely embarrassed if I wrote dialogue for what should’ve been a drama and it turned out to be a campy comedy that would likely appear on TBS or CBS", "That’s hilarious given the film is highly diverse. But yes, I was indeed offended", "This is great stuff, better than the original! Seinfeld...without so many White people!", "What to call the show...\n\nMeinfeld? Kablooey, cue the laughtrack!", "Steven Yuen. Oh My God, I never thought of it before but he would’ve been perfect. Although the character was never meant to be Asian. It was just made by Asians (Japan) but I digress.", "Nah, I just rewatched it a few months ago. I can't remember much conversation about cleaning your butthole or throwing 'nutbag' and 'dick' in every few sentences in the original. It wasn't without cheese but it felt WAY more authentic and timeless. That's why it still holds up and is held in such high regard.", "Cowboy Bebop is leagues better than the walking dead ever was though. Walking Dead owes it's entire success to the fact that it hit at the peak of the Zombie trend.", "If you are okay with jet having a family you missed a huge point that they are each others family begrudgingly. Like jet and spike balance each other out. They work together because it just works but they don't connect on much else besides bounty hunting. Faye doesn't join the team because she wants too. Her ship breaks down and she needs them to get enough money to pay off the ship repairs and they slowly just become the team. And the hugest reason he doesn't need a daughter is that Ed is the daughter of the ship. They are basically a found family who stay together because none of them have anyone else in the universe that cares about them. All of them are outcasts from their original organizations who found each other and formed their own ragtag group of proficient bounty hunters.", ">that underlying sadness, and that confusion that he seemed to walk through life with\n\nI never saw the series until early this year, but I felt almost all the characters had this of vibe about them. In almost every episode, someone is trying to overcome a tragedy from many years ago, or is stuck in the mindset from that event and can't move on.\n\nI see Spike as stuck in the past and smokes/drinks/eats to avoid dealing with it. When he is reunited, it's a dream come true, then it's taken away and he snaps - everything comes out.", "No, you just haven't experienced certain ways in which black people have been depicted stylistically...\n\n[https://i0.wp.com/blackyouthproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/TWS-Michael-Cray-Cover-by-Steve-Buccellato-Denys-Cowan-Bill-Sienkiewicz.jpg?resize=780%2C1200](https://i0.wp.com/blackyouthproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/TWS-Michael-Cray-Cover-by-Steve-Buccellato-Denys-Cowan-Bill-Sienkiewicz.jpg?resize=780%2C1200)", "Honestly, yeah. Besides the general look. They got the style right on quite a lot of things, but as an actor he wasn't doing good work at all, was he?", "None of these are valid criticisms. Jet and Spike are still begrudgingly each other’s family because neither one of them can be connected with their actual family due to their bad pasts. Their inability to fully communicate what they have in common is a massive thread in the season, so maybe you missed a few things yourself. \n\nNot sure if you saw the whole Netflix series, but Jet can no longer be with his daughter and Ed was only just introduced- so Ed is still able to fill that role. \n\nAnyway, none of that matters because this isn’t the same story as the anime and it was never going to hit all the exact same notes the exact same way. If you expected that, you let yourself down.", "I think the witcher series was good. Netflix can make good shows too. This cowboy bebop show sorta seems off to me so far. I'll reserve judgment until I see the full show, but the first episode didn't leave me dazzled.", "Hyperbole dude", "Seems like just a funny ad. 4th wall breaking type stuff. Probably inspired by Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool.", "Heh....not sure your'e right, but the age factor is something I found odd.", "I didn't tell anyone to shut the fuck up? *They* literally said that lol.\n\nI never said they don't deserve a response, I said they're not *entitled* to a response from everyone who downvotes them. It's clear that the downvotes make them angry and it caused them to strawman. Reddit has a way of exposing what people assume others are thinking in situations like these. If you can't handle getting downvotes without getting bent out of shape, I personally recommend not using reddit.", "Those people have clearly black skin tones. And are you saying people stylistically make black people white?", "Like when ZuZu didn't say it was Azula who sent combustion man.", "I've been experimenting with this actually, I'm confident that if it has exactly 3 vowels it will qualify.", "You can just not watch it and let people enjoy it. It’s super easy to ignore stuff.", "He's black?\n\n\nhttps://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cowboybebop/images/9/94/Jet_Head.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130709230234\n\n\nDudes paler than I am", "The head writer for the upcoming One Piece Live Action show (at the same studio I believe) talked about how they pretty much will have to change a lot of things or it will seem super cringe. Like how they’ll drop the named attacks and such. Which… actually makes sense. I saw the dub a few times over the years, and every time it just sounds so bad. Not necessarily because of the dub voice actors, but because… idk, the show is charming when I don’t understand the spoken dialogue, but for some reason when it’s in a language I understand it sounds like… a bunch of teenage cosplayers? Or something like that. Hard to put in words.", "No, the story is about Spike, that’s why it begins and ends with him. It’s an episodic series for the most part, but it’s about him. This is like saying The Mandalorian is not about mando lol", "I'd rather watch The Asylums version of Avatar than this", "They say in the show that that isn't his real name", "Yes, hence \"you can't do anime in real life\".\n\nThings can work in one medium and not in another.\n\nSure, I take anime seriously, sometimes. That's an absolutely ridiculous question. It's an art form and, when done well, can be extremely evocative. It's not all ridiculous, slapstick nonsense, or smash-cut still frame shots with ridiculous vocal grunts. There are some really great and serious stories that can be told using animation, japanese or otherwise.", "Are you serious?\n\nIt's clearly a spoof of Seinfeld.", "If the show was it's own thing, then it'd probably be pretty good. Unfortunately it's not, and it lives in the shadow of the original. I didn't hate it, but I don't think I'd watch a second season.\n\n>!Also holy shit Ed does not work at all as a straight adaptation.!<", "Aw man I wasn't gonna continue with the show until I saw this. When the laugh track kicks in it really starts to work, what episode do they start the laugh track?", "You are correct. Anyone else disagreeing with you is objectively wrong. The tone of the dialogue in the remake is completely post-Marvel cinema 2010s potty banter where people have to be talking nonstop about absolutely nothing. Anyone saying that this is what the anime was like didn't pay attention to the anime or hasn't seen it in decades or has some kind of 'film blindness' where they can't process what they see and hear on a screen.", "Ed or bust!\n\nEdit: What the fuck did they do to Ed!", "Diverse doesn't mean good. Especially when it means rewriting characters to fit the \"diverse\" demand.", "At least Wheel of Time was good... oh wait...", "No, it's not \"good\". If it were just a quick skit on a show like SNL it would be forgettable, but fine.\n\nBut, this isn't a fucking skit, this is the show. Someone wrote this and said \"eh, good enough\".\n\nIn this context, it's terrible.", "I was gonna say I'm pretty sure Germany has a major newspaper called Der Spiegel or something like that", "Was the actor who played jet shooting this whole scene without the main cast?", "agreed. every live action shit that netflix is releasing is dog water. from cowbob bebop, death note, attack on titan, FMA. the list goes on and on.", "As someone whose watched about 7 episodes and decided to drop it, watching these scene again with the Seinfeld context makes it so much better, thank you.", "If you had COVID you wouldn't be able to tell, because it seems the lack of taste has been your thing even before 2019.", "He double dipped the cheesy bread.", "That’s like, your opinion, man.", "Oh I was talking about the live action one piece.", "Are you fucking kidding me", "I think it's because anime has people become adults at 8, so you just need to add 10 to everyone's age.", "I'm out of the loop here. What show is this, is it real and is there more of it?", "That's your opinion and far from a common one. Walking Dead wouldn't have been popular if it wasn't also good, trend or not.", "My brother never watched the original because it's anime. Not sure how far in he is, but does Ed ever show up?", "That is cowboy bebop. That is why it has jazz as underlying theme music. Jazz tends to be the most free-form improvised music you can find and that is a metaphor for the team that is free formed and improvised. I have not seen the Netflix series because I have watched waaaaay too many bad live action remakes of anime series. I am just stating that jet does not need a daughter because the main theme of cowboy bebop is a group of people that are ALL outcasts from different organizations who have nobody else to turn too.", "Oh okay so you haven’t seen it at all. Cya.", "I heard on a [podcast](https://newrepublic.com/article/164316/hollywood-blues-streaming-era) it's because they're being made fast and very cheaply. So basically it's just the \"default\" lighting setup every time", "My main gripe with the show in general is that everyone is just a little too quippy. Sometimes not opening your mouth is the cooler option. That, and I think Vicious is way too emotional.", "Unless I misunderstood the commenter, and I might have, I think the point was his VA was not originally black. The English dub was but that wasn't the original VA cast for Jet. The person he replied to was using it as a reason he thought of Jet as Black, which is fair but it says nothing about the original intention of the character and his race.", "Cause it's on TV!", "Really? I thought Fey was the worst cast choice of the three here. In both looks and acting I think she’s the weak link lol", "Personally thought this was a sketch comedy and got really excited. Am much less excited", "They reimagine a few aspects, while others remain largely untouched. Some of the characters definitely diverge from the original in ways that I would consider meaningful, but I'd you're willing to roll with that, it's not a bad ride.", "> It’s called storytelling.\n\nYea, Building out characters is called storytelling.", "Ed is definitely not an adult. I dunno how much I can gather from like ten seconds of dialogue, but she looks right enough.", "And his signature pistol in the animated version is an IWI/Magnum Research Jericho 941, an Israeli manufacturer who is probably most famous for the Desert Eagle pistol.", "Let's see here... \"hunter2\". Hmm, that didn't work.", "Wait, is this actual dialog from the show? I thought this was the actors purposely spoofing Seinfeld for fun.", "They made a Death Note live action?! Jesus. I feel like I might have known about that at some point and successfully wiped it from my memory, now here we are again", "And now it's better.", "Well, no. He didn't dip any thing.", "Vicious is just terrible. Not at all the quiet, calm force of murder from the anime.", "In the manga he's described by another character as Asian", "It was not a shot for shot remake at all. It was terrible. Watch Asteroid Blues and then watch the first episode when they went to New TJ and you'll see the differences.", "First episode was almost beat for beat with the anime, aside from the cold open (which was a nod to the movie) and the early introduction of Vicious.", "Even the newscaster commentary was so cringe. It was so forced like everything on this show. I feel bad for all the actors.", "No. It's terrible", "Admittedly, the hammerhead didn't get a lot of screentime in the original, outside of some side adventures.", "Wait really?", "Vibes?", "I liked the whole bidet thread throughout the episode! In fact, I'm liking the humor in the series in general.", "The laugh track made it better?", "> People online aren’t finicky or dishonest\n\nlmao have you seen the internet?", "What, you expected the producers to hold true to the core principles of the show? They're targeting the American demographic, which to them means idiots looking for a cheap laugh with expensive visuals and lots of people dying and explosions and stuff. Dialogue? I swear the writers on this are bad, even for the 90's sitcom standards they seem to be going for.", "I’m sorry, are there not space ships?\n\nAre there not giant colonies on random planets?\n\nIs there not giant space ring things?\n\nIt’s sci-fi.\n\nGoogle the fucking word sci-fi and cowboy bebop shows up on my phone right next to dune.\n\nIt’s sci-fi.\n\nYou can’t say it’s not.", "Absolutely, I only found out about it due to this video. Not sure how my opinion effects others enjoyment of it.", "Faye is terrible. I get that the original was a bit fan servicey but they replaced her with a character that has no actual relation to the original.\n\nShe’s just a wiseass constantly cracking mediocre one liners.\n\nWack.", "People are paid to write this.. :/", "I kinda wish there was more slow moments like this in the live action. But I really liked what they did and how they handled the original ip.", "Exactly, I feel like they really dropped the ball on her character which is a shame. Oh well, live actions, what do you expect?", "As someone who holds the original in very high regard, I gave this adaptation a fair shake. I even watched a handful of episodes twice, if only to see how things would play once it was obvious where the story was going.\n\nYes, there are a lot of surface issues to quibble with and subjectivities with regard to the casting, alterations to the anime, etc. Whether or not these choices work for you is going to be contingent on your tolerance for the idea of a reboot. For one, I maintain that Cho, Shakir, and Pineda are very solid, even if the characters that they are playing deviate from the originals in some significant ways. I totally understand why others would feel otherwise.\n\nIf I had to identify the substantial, structural issues that undo this show, I'd point to:\n\n* The interminable runtimes, which force the writers to protract storylines well beyond what might be considered natural. The episode lengths also force a lot of redundant dialogue, bizarre editing, and unnatural musical cues.\n* This cannot be stressed enough, but the emphasis on the anime's peripheral characters is near-catastrophic. Julia and Vicious are barely characters in the original - they're more or less abstract ideas that are used to give Spike's storyline some necessary momentum. The live action has built entirely new characters around these ideas, and these characters are nowhere near as interesting as anything else on the show. \n* Serious issues with the script. I'm not just talking about the clunky dialogue - I'm talking about continuity issues and bizarrely realized story arcs (many of which are, admittedly, also the result of slipshod editing and direction). \n\nHere's my conclusion - many of the issues that critics and audiences have identified are the result of deliberate stylistic decisions rather than technical incompetence. I'm now of the mind that the winking irony (re: the Seinfeld clip) kind of works, if only because the creators are making an earnest effort at capturing the anime's deft genre play. In the later episodes, the use of iconic scenes from the anime sometimes really works (e.g., the Fey-centric stuff), and there are a handful of moments - like the noir anachronism in Jet's spotlight episode, or some of Spike's stuff in the Syndicate flashbacks - that suggest to me that there is a vision inside of all of the misshapen television.\n\nWhile I would never argue that people should or have to give this adaptation a chance, I feel weird about the notion that one should object to a live action Bebop as a rule. There are really just enough moments of transcendence in the live action that I'm curious if a course correction is possible.", "Ah yes, the ballad of fallen angels, truly a masterpiece.", "In my opinion, no. They put a lot of money into making it look right, but then handed the writing to people who know nothing about the characters or the world they inhabit. They took away Spike's humorous dark charm and knack for slight of hand. They made Viscious a whiny simp with anger issues when he was always the most dangerous person in the room because he was totally in control and had his ass covered. Jet is cast perfectly, but written poorly. Faye is no longer the femme fatale and more of a bratty younger sister with skills to match. Spike has a sympathetic streak a mile wide in the original, but no hint of that here. \n\n\nThe opening is a direct rip from the movie, but made bad. The pacing is bad, Spike's intro is bad, the dialogue is bad, the twist where the dude in the bathroom wasn't the major disruption but his gun was... bad. Introducing a gun that rips through bulkheads like a firehose through toilet paper - bad. The fights are cut way more often than they need to be removing any hint of interest they may have had. \n\nI admit I'm seeing this through the lens of a person who loves the show and the film. I've watched the analyses and histories and learned some of the lore of the world in which it takes place. I'm a fanboy and I was so ready to embrace this with its flaws. But they've missed the mark so far that if they didn't straight steal plots and characters, there'd be reason to think this is even the same universe. They tried for manic humor and flash and removed the tragedy, joy, and humor that made Bebop unique. There's no weight to anyone's actions in this. Asimov was already dead, Katerina didn't have to kill him.\n\nNetflix is giving me anger issues.", "Can't really blame them when you look at how much money adaptations make nowadays compared to how often original stuff completely misses the mark. \n\nThere's just too much potential in adaptations, imagine if \"Hollywood\" gave up on adapting comics after a couple failed attempts, no MCU no Dark Knight trilogy, if we stopped adapting books, no Lord Of The Rings trilogy, no Godfather. Eventually one of these anime adaptations will land the right writer.", "At the very end of ep 10. So probably important in the rest of the episodes whenever we get them.", "I've got a feeling they maybe cast for Ed and then just realized it was not possible to capture the character.\n\nKinda like how they completely botched Spike, and barely, barely, captured Faye.\n\nI think they nailed Jet though, even though he isn't a Jet look alike, I buy it and it doesn't take me out of what I think I'm watching.\n\nI can't watch John Cho play this character, it's just so not right.", "Why didn’t we get 5 episodes on the old lady who was a hostage for 30 seconds at the beginning then?\n\nOr 4 episodes on Jet’s kid, who is VERY important to Jet and his story?", "I don’t think the live action Cowboy Bebop is good, but it’s nowhere near as terrible as the Death Note movie.", "Maybe in season 2.", "Wow this is bad", "Yeah, there is an uncanny valley effect that goes on when animation isn't translated well to live action.", "You watched the video right?", "I see lol\n\nI'll have to finish it anyways because I can't say no to Yoko Kanno and Cowboy Bebop.", "Nah, you couldn't find anyone that could pull off a 1:1 Ed, that character is pure anime and just can't be translated to live action without the awkward cringe. Should have done a completely different interpretation of the character.", "God damn that’s perfect….\n\nI haven’t watch Netflix’s version and now I can’t.", "I don't understand why the show creators would even bother adapting the old material directly if they were going to change so much. I would have preferred original stories, if I wanted to see the old stuff I would just watch the anime.", "Is that a joke or is that real? Haven’t watched it yet", "I really love it and recommend giving it a try. Always make your own judgement of a show since others opinions can be biased, and of course, different.", "Anime came first and fully produced by Watanabe. Not so much the Manga which was a carbon copy of the show put into print, but if that’s the basis for the character then so be it", "REAL my bro. It’s fucking eye roll inducing", "'Objectively' good or bad cannot be applied to something like the arts, which is completely a subjective endeavor. No TV show has meaning outside of what we assign it in our separate perspectives, there is no 'objectively better or worse' tv show, just what people prefer or not in the context of their preferences. You can say, of these people surveyed, the results of the survey show a mass preference objectively, sure. But if you can find one person who doesn't feel the way you do about it, then it is not 'objectively worse'.\n\nDefinition: \"in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.\"\n\nThe enjoyability or appreciation of the writing of something is completely a personal feeling or opinion. So maybe you need to find a different word...", "It's clearly a send-up of sort of Tarantino style banter. Which is perfectly in keeping with the show, which was a pastische of various different action and sci-fi movies, Desparado, Alien, etc...", "I think it was sufficiently foreshadowed, just a significant departure from the original. That said, that entire dynamic was pretty different from the anime, so it fits in this telling of the story, IMO.", "> Not least of which because of his voice actor\n\nThis is why Pikachu is a girl and I'll die on that hill.", "Sorry Netflix, I'm not gonna carry that weight.\n\nSee you never space flop.", "A lot of people are mad that Jet Black is a black dude... But I'm mad that Harold is Spike. Spike is in his mid-20's and like a somehow-cooler version of Bruce Lee and we got Harold who, and I looked this up, is 50 years old.\n\nI've gotten used to the mandatory Netflix diversity, but they're not even trying anymore with their casting.", "Bruce Lee started off with wing Chun, and derivative techniques are common both in his movies and jeet kune do in general. Spike has every reason to be practicing on a wing Chun dummy. \n\nThe rifles only come out occasionally, most of the gunfights in the series are with pistols. \n\nEpisode 1 is the most beat for beat with the anime, IMO. There are a few characters and relationships that get shuffled around.\n\nOverall, I think the characters are generally a bit too quippy, and it makes them less cool than they ought to be. I also think Vicious is too outwardly moody. I could see him doing most of what happens in the adaptation, but here he feels like he has too little control of his exterior. He's more petty tyrant and less brooding rabid dog that slipped the leash.\n\nIMO enjoyment hinges on how much you consider the original to be sacrosanct.", "Seems to be a trend lately. Massive production quality, dogshit writing. See GoT season 8 and the later Star Wars films.", "I’m a big fan of bebop and I cant bring myself to watch the live adaptation.", "I too always thought he was black in the anime.", "I agree it's the most jarring thing about the adaptation for me. Bad casting choice for Spike, 100%.", "> My take: only interested to see how it ends up but frankly disappointed in how they twisted the story. Oh and Jet feels believable for his character. Fayes ok. Felt like they overcooked her attitude.\n\nYou forgot Ed, who's a bit too, uh... a bit too exaggerated... or something... awkward, probably a more fitting word.", "Dang. Haven’t made it that far yet but that’s disappointing.", "why does it matter what ed is in the first place? does it ruin anything? ed is a kid anyway... I understand all the other complaints, but this just has me scratching my head.", "I think it's damn good. I mean watch the first episode instead of taking the cynical approach.", "I've seen enough clips of it to make me not want to be anywhere near it, thank you.", "They did better with Castlevania than Konami has for years.", "[\"So i got a call this morning from NASA, i was chosen to go on the spaceshuttle. We're going to Mars.\"](https://youtu.be/61zJHstzOoY)", "Lamo I'm sure you think star wars is sci Fi too. Foundation is sci-fi. Dune is sci Fi. Enders game/speaker for the dead is sci Fi. \nAll of these have one major thing in common, the examination of how technology does and doesn't affect the human condition\n\n\nCowboy Bebop is a noir western set in space. There is no technological element driving the story. If you put the characters on a pirate ship in the middle of the South Pacific instead nothing would change.\n\nStar wars is English mythology and space wizards. The props guys were on a totally different wavelength and put a lot of though and effort into the props which expanded the world way past what silly ol george had planned by himself.\n\nTake a media literacy class yo", "Im thru episode 6 and episode 6 blew me away, love the characters, writing might be cringe sometimes, acting isnt terrible, and the story is better than the singular episodes of the anime", "Between this and the Ryan Reynolds Red Notice on Antiques Roadshow; quality marketing regardless of opinion on the shows/movies.", "The original character was a girl and hated it when she got mistaken as a boy. Does it matter? Yeah I think it does. It’s disrespectful to the character, and source material. You know it wouldn’t fly if we took a transgender/non binary/transvestite character and made them “cis” so you can see why people are pissed off. I’m all for representation but this is blatant pandering for the sake of it. They are jingling keys in front of the LGBTQ crowd and hoping they’ll be entertained. I’m sick of it and I’m not the only one", "It's not what they want, it's what they can write. First time you saw faye, you had just hints of what she was like even after the episode. In Hollywood, you have to realise what the character is like instantly. It's \"good writing\", and you can't make any such character any more complex than the established stereotypes. And people don't understand femme fatale more than they understand james bond, anyway.\n\nThis character isn't written for you, and you probably won't like her if you compare her to Faye. It's written for people who never saw Faye, and who probably wouldn't like the original.\n\nJet only works because they could write him for the new audience without too much changes.", "Right, because if there's one thing I know about jazz is that it's supposed to followed rigidly with no improvisation or re-interpretation, especially by the original creators.", "Your disgust is just oozing out.", "That argument might fly if each episode had a slightly different variation, but it doesn't. That rendition of Tank! has always been the theme to Cowboy Bebop. \n\nI don't hate it or anything, I just prefer the other recording.", "okay first off, do they even mention that detail in the live action show at all? as far as i know, she's only there for a few minutes. They might not even delve into that at all in the next season (if there is one) and ed is just ed. At best you're probably just reacting to what the showrunner is saying. \n\nThe live action version has way too many other issues that this particular one is just too minor and silly to worry about. \n\nP.S., a lot of roles get genderswapped from male to female or vice versa in other adaptations.", "They tried to make it like the old samurai movies but mixed it with almost a normal setting, I get what they were trying to do but they are such different genres it didn't flow well at times. I think around episode 4 or 5 it fixed most of the problems. \n\nIt dosnt have the charisma that the original had but it's good, hope it gets a season 2 and they can hit the ground running.", "Who?", "Mirror pls", "Archive.org is your friend ;)", "Nothing ruins other things. Just ignore the terrible shit or shit you didn't think lived up to the original. You always will have the original of anything.", "wut\n\nJust link the meer pls", "Ed was always kinda of that way to be honest just before it was a fun joke about \"eh is she a boy or a girl, we don't even know or really care\" but now they have to write all these fucking articles praising them for being revolutionary with that and stick a big fucking label on it. It's just dumb. What bugs me is like this very pointed way stuff is being cast these days and two recent shows come to mind. Cowboy Bebop has no white protagonists despite the source material having at least 2. The Foundation got rid of the white male protagonists from the book and replaced them both with black female protagonists. To me that just doesn't make much sense. Like scifi shows have always had a very large white male audience. So you toss out both? And only the villains in the story are the white males? It's kind of nuts. I'd be fine if they replaced one and kept the other but to make both black women just feels so pointed and agenda driven that for me it's distracting. That's what I'm seeing in so many of these shows is like half the cast is black these days. THat isn't a reflections of society in the english speaking world, and this stuff is made for the US and Eurpope, and its weird to force it that hard. What it turns into and I'll say it over and over, eventually they are trying to include so hard that they are just intentionally trying to exclude something, and that will always be white men. I dunno they say representation matters but are then mad when a character I connected with because he did look like me is changed in both gender and race, and to me that's no longer the same character. Representation does matter but don't be surprised when white guys just abandon it when they are only represented as villains.", "If someone has a mirror link it'd be greatly appreciated", "I created an account and can't see it, so it's either geo-restricted or it's been taken down", "Just so you know you are insufferable", "Your loss.", "[https://vimeo.com/648384574](https://vimeo.com/648384574) MIRROR MY CHILDREN.", "Hey! That ooz is a secret!", "She wasn't that annoying in the original show\n\nhttps://youtu.be/HRid-B5xqlA\n\nShe has softer voice and feels more cute/childish, rather than retarded.", "Just wanted to say I am in the same boat! I dislike Marvel/Superhero/Star Wars shows but hate CW stuff even more... but I actually still enjoyed this one! I was thinking it's probably just because I liked the source material so much that I'm a bit blinded to all the terrible parts of Cowboy Bebop:Live Acion, haha. \n\nAlso, I really do think that the cast has pretty good chemistry and it feels to me pretty close to the original when they're just fucking around with each other.", "This is why a lot of people prefer subs to dubs. When it’s in a language you don’t speak, you can’t tell as easily that the subject matter is actually still cringe.", "> Spike Spiegel\n\nUh, i hate to break it to you bro, but i don’t think Spike is asian.", "Clap them in irons!", "Bless you\n\nALT MIRROR: https://streamable.com/f9ohqw", "I absolutely loathe what they’ve done with Faye, Gren, Vicious, Julia…almost every single character on this adaptation of the show. They’ve taken these deep, complex characters and “fixed” (no really, look at the attitude of the people behind the show toward Faye and Gren) some of them, while reducing any of their original nuance they once had to simple, bullshit 1 dimensional caricatures of what they were in the original show. I haaaaaate it.", "I meant in reference to reviews on the show. Not everyone on the internet lmfao.", "You are the real MVP", "Honestly it's a fun watch. It's obviously not as good as the original and has a different tone (it feels more cartoony than the actual cartoon somehow) but it's actually entertaining.", "Yeah i agree on the age for sure. However he honestly nearly nailed how spike is in the Anime. He's just kinda an aloof jokster type of guy who also has a depressed side because of his past.", "Was that ever explicitly said in the Anime? I remember some hints at it but not like the live action one where they straight up just say it.", "Cowboy bebop has some anime tropes but honestly it's very few. It's an Anime that has more Hollywood tropes and influence more than anything.", "It could have translated a lot better tbh. Im actually enjoying the live action but it's clear the people making it wanted to make there own version of it instead of a one to one copy which makes sense. Might as well make somthing \"fresh\" for fans as well as newcomers alike. \n\n\nHowever I think they had a more cartoony vision than even the actual cartoon had. Some of it comes off really weirdly because of this.", "Yeah, ttue. I guess what i wanted to say was that Jet still feels like Jet but the other characters are kind of off the mark.", "Thanks!", "Not really.", "I have a somewhat different view of the show from other people, it seems. I enjoyed the fact that it's not just a shot-for-shot remake of the anime, which, having seen the anime, would have been boring for me. Theyre changing the story somewhat to work in more of Spike's backstory, which wasn't really explored as much as I would have liked in the anime. I'm personally excited to see where they take it. I'm only 4 episodes in and I'll freely admit that the acting is often stiff and the fight choreography is laughable, which would be fine if the show didn't take itself as seriously as it does. But I personally don't mind that they made changes to the plot and some of the characters.", "I’ll take your word for it.", "I don’t think Vicious could ever be done justice, but I sure don’t like what I’ve seen so far. \n\nFor being such an iconic villain, he has what, 4 minutes of screen time in the whole anime? And they never really explain what his deal was, either. And that’s what makes him great. No chance of that in exposition bebop I’m guessing", "> P.S., a lot of roles get genderswapped from male to female or vice versa in other adaptations.\n\nThere are a lot of roles where female characters being genderswapped to 'cis' males?", "Why is Spike brooding?", "Lol. Your definition of sci-fi is broken\n\nJust Google “bebop sci-fi” and read the giant stack of places and sites calling it such.\n\nI’m sure everyone else is wrong and your superior education and intellect is the real definition of sci-fi, you are so elevated in your knowledge", "Why won’t it play?😢", "i was wrong on that one, I shouldn't have added vice versa, but still, the reality is there are a lot of \"cis\" (mostly male) characters that get genderswapped to a lesser represented gender in hollywood. And until hollywood gets its shit together and actually start making more characters that are members of those lesser-represented groups, we're stuck with getting genderswapped characters for now. \n\nWith that said, for Ed in particular, this change doesn't really fucking matter in the grand scheme of things-- the character looks and sounds the same as the original, for better or for worse. literally the only change is something intangible. Like I said, there's a lot of things to whine about in this adaptation, this isn't one of them.", "I think it's just one of those things. Personally I never saw Jet as black. I am part of the \"Piccolo is black\" camp though. Not because of his VA or anything else, just seems kind of like it and it's a pretty popular opinion that I've seen. So in that sense I agree but I don't necessarily think there's a sensible way to justify that sort of thing.", "The whole thing with he and Julia being married and him being abusive is just so so terrible. Such a complex relationship between them and spike reduced to this :(", "You are kidding me...", "Honestly this show and the original FMA are too iconic in terms of chosen voices", "I haven't watched FMA in English, so I can't say anything about the quality of its dub, sadly. But I do know I prefer even those dubs that aren't lauded as some of the best, but which are just the best version for me personally, like anything Dragon Ball, and Hellsing.\n\nI love your username.", "To be different? If it was a shot for shot remake I honestly don't know if that would make me happier.", "Yes. But the reveal in the live action is muted emotionally. Her death I'd emotionally muted. Maybe it's lost in translation of the mediums. Maybe it's the dialog, Maybe it's spike.\n\nAgain I haven't finished the season yet this is making me nervous for The pierrot le fou episode coming up.", "It has a longer runtime, it doesn't HAVE to sacrifice old stuff. Change sure, but cutting down stuff?", "hm, an anti-intellectual sci-fi fan. Now I'm the confused one", "The thing is, taste is subjective. And anime has genres that are different from one another, so lumping an entire medium like that is pretty inaccurate.\n\nImagine someone categorizing all live-action movies the same way—We know that isn't true because there are genres and subgenres for different audiences. Anime is the same way.", "HAMMERHEAD! I couldn't remember the name of his ship for the life of me. Such a cool name!\n\nI think one of the better things about the show is the actor that plays Jet Black. I'm sad they changed his story, I really enjoyed the episode where he goes back home to see his ex.", "Yeah, they kind of took Ganymede Elegy, Black Dog Serenade, and Boogiewoogie Feng Shui, threw them in a blender, and remixed them. I think the backstory works for him, since he gets the short end of everything after being set up for asking too many questions. Plus him being an actual father figure jives with the character.\n\nI do think that they could have done more to reflect his moral stoicism, but overall I think they are least did justice to Jet.", "it's definitely uncomfortable to watch.", ">copy anime Ed with a physical person.\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/S7lxJB4.jpg", "Watching John Cho's self respect go down the tubes...", ">Video removed for copyright violation", "I could never take Vicious in this adaptation seriously because he just looked like Walmart Lucius Malfoy to me the entire time.", "Oh, Man Faye!! Damn, that's some classic Western anime history right there.", "i disagree!", "It was made by people that neither understood, nor cared, what the original was about. Not that this makes the new show bad by necessity, but...\n\nIf the IP you're buying the rights to is popular enough to buy the rights in the first place, isn't changing it so much just going to disappoint people that come in with pre-concieved notions about it? If it's not a popular IP, then why are you buying the rights to it? It doesn't make a lot of sense from a logical perspective. But then again, a bunch of people playing \"business telephone\" in Hollywood don't necessarily arrive at a logical conclusion, even when tens to hundreds of millions of dollars are spent on that conclusion.", "Someone on the bebop sub said Farquaad and I thought that was ridiculous… until I watched. Any angle that is shot from below makes his chin and hair length interact badly and then his head looks way too big for his body. The scene in the car, I had to pause cause I was just laughing. \n\n\nAnd lowkey Lucius Malfoy does something for me, so I would have been okay with that direction (the costume definitely fits), and I do find my boy Translucent (he’s in The Boys too) pretty hot. Together it is not at all what I want lmao", "Nothing I’m sharing warrants a spoiler warning imo, but I’ll be talking strengths and weaknesses - just a heads up!\n\n\nHonestly, go in expecting more quippy dialogue and a watered down western (as in US vs Japan) sense of humor (thus the sitcom shit). The fights are great, effects, art direction, even the acting is good given the dialogue/direction they got. Where it fails for me so far (halfway through) is the writing Every. Single. Time. Plus Faye got bad direction, not sure they get her character beyond the surface (and so much of what makes us love her is below the surface). The absolute worst stuff is the characterizations of Vicious (you’ll see) and Gren. \n\n\nOh my poor Gren. It’s like they just plopped an ENTIRELY different character down and called them Gren. Different everything, literally just a way to virtue signal by having a nonbinary character. I say that as a nonbinary person - they massacred one of my all time favorite characters. Instead of the raw look into Gren’s struggle the OG Bebop had, this version is the physical embodiment of “YAAAASSSS QUEEEN!” That’s not to say people that fit those stereotypes don’t deserve to have their stories told, it’s just that they are the ONLY stories most people hear about queer folks. I hate it so much. Maybe they’ll do some cool stuff with Gren in the season’s back half, I’m open to that. But it won’t be “Gren,” it will be someone else. I’ll try to enjoy whatever they do as if it were just a new character. \n\n\nThere are more things going on that are questionable, but those are the worst offenders I think. I hope you can find bits of entertainment, there is a quiet but large section of the bebop fandom that is enjoying it for what it is, and I mostly am with them.", "The somewhat frazzled appearance definitely detracts from what fans were expecting with the character. In the original, he was a total sociopath that was only held in check by Spike keeping him pointed in the proper direction. The new series paints him more as a petty tyrant, driven by vanity rather than predatory instinct.", "Excellent description, nailed the gripe I had about his character’s adaptation", "Yes exactly. \n\nJet 10/10 - Mustafa and OG jet have completely merged in my mind lol\n\nSpike 8/10 - not really suave, but not bad\n\nFaye 6/10 - often better, but so inconsistent, I blame direction/dialogue not the actress\n\nVicious 3/10 - they had no clue how to make a LA Vicious, I even like the actor in The Boys, he can be plenty intimidating but here he’s kind of a manchild\n\nGren 👀 - like really, where is my Gren, wtf did they do to them ☹️ I miss having even one single nonbinary character I can relate to, we have so little representation and it’s only ever of the “YAAAASSS QUEEEN!” variety", "I knew this would be more quippy and dumbed down, but I felt like the emotional core was missing. You are 100% right, it’s missing the desperation. The ads are everywhere, they’re poor, but it’s more of a joke/set dressing. The suffocation under late stage capitalism and corruption in every institution is missing entirely. It’s alluded to but we are never given the victims of this system in a way we have to confront. Some bebop is supposed to make you feel conflicted or just ache. Not everything can always be a fun romp. \n\nWhich ties into the backstories. I loved slowly inferring, uncovering, and finally getting payoff on the secrets these three keep.", "I don't think spike was late 20's, he was at that sort of timeless age between 30-40, like John McClain, or Homer Simpson, but it doesn't really matter. I think John Cho wasn't too bad of a choice, just the direction is so awful.", "Just stopping by to give you a quicky little downvote there", "I'm sorry, so far this has been a cringe worthy cluster fuck.", "To be clear, she’s leafing through two magazines, one of which is playboy, but the other has exclusively men in it. Faye being bi is not at all a stretch imo.", "Ignoring how aggressively against lesbian representation this comment sounds, Faye is leafing through two mags the next episode and one is called “Leathermen” and appears to be exclusively men. Bi characters are very underrepresented especially given that there are more bisexual folks than gay/lesbian. [1 in every 50](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/how-many-people-lgbt/) people is bi, and that’s only including those willing to out themselves. Bi people are also stigmatized by both straight and gay/lesbian people because of all the “faking for attention,” “oh they’re just a baby gay, they’ll come out,” and “pick a side” bullshit.", "Seriously, name one. I’m waiting. Meanwhile in recent years weve had: \n\nGhostbusters\n\nOceans 8\n\nFuture pirates of the Caribbean staring Margot Robbie\n\nRocky horror picture show ( Frankenstein further was played by a male to female transgender instead of a transvestite, I mean… Come on)\n\nStar Wars \n\nThe hustle \n\nMib 4\n\nSherra reboot changed many characters gender to \nfemale \n\nBatwoman ( ruby rose REPLACES Batman instead of fighting alongside him)\n\nFucking sandy the dog in Annie is changed to female\n\nCinderella reboot (jaquilene the mouse)\n\nEvil dead focuses on ashes sister \n\nCharlie’s angels (Bosley) \n\nThe jungle book (kaa)\n\nAntman and the wasp (ghost)\n\nEternals replace SEVERAL male characters with women \n\nI could go on but my hand is getting cramped", "The noir stuff was my least favorite. My favorite parts were the bounty hunter space stuff", "No.", "Then don't do it, if you can't.", "Why do people still pay for Netflix, though? It's all so terrible.", "How am I anti intellectual? Do I really need to label the sarcasm with /s", "Is she responsible for levels and integration into the show?", "The composer usually decides what music plays where, the vibe to it, the style and so on. \n\nThey get a copy of the material and will literally compose pieces as they watch it over and over. The directors and producers might give guidance towards what they were looking for when directing certain scenes but what you hear is basically all the composer.\n\nThe editor might come in afterwards too and edit the levels such as how loud certain scenes are in comparison to the dialogue or if they feel a song starts a second too early too late.", "The music was all from the original anime, she didn't compose it after watching the show. If anything she would have cut cut it after watching maybe. \n\n\nThe main issue I take is that the entire original anime was cut and directed around the music. When the music started the show almost turned into a music video. In the new iteration the music is just there in the background. Story and action beats don't coincide with the music.", ">The music was all from the original anime, she didn't compose it after watching the show. If anything she would have cut cut it after watching maybe. \n\nThe music from the original anime is HER music. What you listen to in this live action adaptation is composed after watching the episodes of this live action show even if it's almost identical to the anime. She's basically just reusing her own work. \n\n>The main issue I take is that the entire original anime was cut and directed around the music\n\nSays who? I highly doubt that she composed tracks and THEN the studio made the episodes afterwards. That's literally not how production works. If anything she probably just did an amazing job at composing and grabbing the feel of the anime within each episode that was produced. This doesn't mean that this will be the case for live action. \n\n>In the new iteration the music is just there in the background. Story and action beats don't coincide with the music.\n\nAnd this means that's he didn't compose the music? She produced the tracks as each episode was completed. If they don't flow well it can be for a multitude of reasons, maybe some her fault and maybe some the producers or directors.", "Every show seems to need a token gay character. Star Trek Discovery has 10 Yes I'm one of the few watching it. The numbers are far less in reality.", "So Like ST Discovery then?", "Then you chose the completely wrong show to watch haha. Have you watched Outlaw Star? It’s more bounty hunter space stuff and less artsy.", "> I can't watch John Cho play this character, it's just so not right.\n\nJohn Cho doesn't look like he is having any fun. Spike may be kind of dead inside, but he is outwardly jovial. Every fight scene he is in he has a coy smile on his face.", "Yup.\n\nHe just doesn't capture the vibe like, at all... Doesn't look like spike, doesn't act like spike.", "I love cowboy beebop. The anime is absolute perfection. Except the noir shit. That wasnt bad, just boring", "I don’t think you understand the show then…it’s literally a noir piece. It’s themes, mood, plots, cinematography, music, all of it. Except for like two episodes", "Yes I know its her music, but if you watch the original anime there is very obviously synergy between the music and the visuals. Things happen on musical beats, cuts occur in time with the music. Explosions happen at crescendos, punches' in the fights happen in time. They are made to work together. I don't know how, but it is obvious when you watch it. Also I don't really care who is to blame or why it happened this way for the new show, I only care that it sucks and was so much better in the original. The show was called Cowboy Bebop because the music was as much of a character and as important to the entire thing as Spike himself. This new show doesn't even feature the music as a supporting character, just a background extra.", ">Yes I know its her music, but if you watch the original anime there is very obviously synergy between the music and the visuals. Things happen on musical beats, cuts occur in time with the music. Explosions happen at crescendos, punches' in the fights happen in time.\n\nI'm not saying this doesn't happen, what I'm saying is that it doesn't mean she was able to do that this time around. Live action is very different than anime, many animes are amazing at incorporating music because you are working with movements and scenes that are finely tuned. In live action the pace of one scene might not be the pace of another because you are working with real people. That's why actors say that they sometimes need to do 20 takes for a single scene. \n\n>This new show doesn't even feature the music as a supporting character, just a background extra.\n\nAnd this is a very valid opinion. Not saying you are wrong or right but that if you feel this way about it it's legitimately okay to be upset about it.", "No doubt. Some things just need to exist in the mediums they were conceived in I suppose.", "I know exactly what I'm saying. This is not an art. This is a pantomime of art that was already crafted by someone else. The original Cowboy Bebop is art... taking influences from other art in order to create something new and inspired. All these remakes / reboots / adaptations are not artists trying to create, they're products trying to cash in on familiarity in order to add 'content' and 'value' to a platform or service. Yes, they may employ artists while making the thing but the end result is, as I said, a pantomime and facsimile of actual art that already existed.\n\nedit: You also referred to the original as a 'cartoon' which explains exactly how you feel about this art form, just like the Netflix people", "....its literally about space bounty hunters. The best parts of the anime made it into the live action imo", "“Wouldn’t consider gunpla a toy”\n\nFucking lol yeah okay buddy\n\nI know I’m not a fucking expert but that’s gotta be the most virgin cringe thing I’ve ever heard.", "Thanks to Sunday I binged it in one setting. I really liked it, best LA I've ever seen. Definitely superior over the anime.", "Yeah...I was trying to think of why I disliked this clip so much...and the answer is that it is just 3 horrible actors in it.", "secret is to have low standards", "Okay well now you’ve confirmed to me you don’t know what you’re talking about because you’re just some asshole.\n\nMost people don’t consider model kits to be toys. Toys are something you play with and gunpla doesn’t work for that. That’s why lines like MSIA or Universe exist, because those are actual toys but they’re small potatoes compared to gunpla sales.", "I haven't watched Cowboy Bebop, because* anime.", "No you said to me I didn’t know what I was talking about twice because I said an anime was considered to be one of the best of all time and a big deal.\n\nYou’re the one trying to make the case for literal toy model kits of giant robots from an anime aimed at children and nerds and calling them “not toys”\n\nWhich is fucking embarrassing.\n\nIt’s okay to admit they’re toys. It’s lame as shit to act like they’re not. Legos, gunpla, model airplanes doesn’t matter. \n\nI’d much rather be an asshole than a soft embarrassing immature fuck that insults someone who has to make excuses about their hobby.", "I don’t own any gunpla so you’re not insulting my hobby don’t worry but you are a giant asshole. \n\nI never disputed Cowboy Bebop being popular, that was some other Redditor. I disputed your false notion that Gundam, the show and it’s merchandise, isn’t popular. It’s certainly more popular than Bebop in Japan.\n\nEnjoy your day, dick. Reported and blocked.", "Nice account dude, it’s nice to know that when people throw stones and yell about it they live in houses with the thinnest glass walls.\n\nEnjoy the toys.", "Right. There is a reason Cowboy Bebop is as renowned as it is: it isn't your typical anime garbage. Hence, it was obvious you haven't watched it.", "[You'll notice there's no such article about Cowboy Bebop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Gundam). Dude you're just some idiot who talks out of his ass. Maybe you're some Westerner who thinks Gundam peaked in the 90s because you watched Wing, but I'm just here to tell you that you're ignorant.", "I have plenty of posts showing multiple number 1 spots as greatest anime of all time, and multiple top 10 and lost placings for Bebop. But I won’t waste my time further. Netflix doing the live action is proof enough.\n\nThis may come as a shock to you, but I can’t and won’t be corrected by someone who thinks Gundam was a good show at almost any point in time outside of its initial runs, and collects toys and lies about it place in the universe in order to no appear like a some middle aged nerd with middle schooler energy.\n\nLike I said have a good one homie. Don’t bother replying man I won’t read it.", "I understand that some people manage to give the original Ed endearing, but if you met an exact anime Ed in real life it would be cringiest person you've ever met. I honestly do not grasp the concept of \"endearing in a childish fan girl kinda way\", because childish fan girls make me cringe like none other lol. She's like a loud, obnoxious teen girl at an anime convention who prides themselves on being quirky", "I honestly have a very difficult time finding the anime Ed endearing. To me she's like an over the top Tumblr anime fan girl stereotype\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", "After that depressing ass episode providing plenty of depressing ass flashbacks.... RADICAL EDWARD IS HEREEEEE so dope 😁😁😁", "It was the same way in the original show.", "hahaha ... yeah when I made this comment I didn't see the scene yet but read an article about how Edward does indeed show up.\n\nWatching the last episode I was thinking this is definitely gonna be a 2 min appearance.\n\nSorry to have misled you!!! I was disappointed too :(", "For anyone else that comes back and finds it deleted.\n\nhttps://vimeo.com/648384574", "I just fucking watched the original, what are you talking about?", "It was a totally chance encounter, and they didn't believe that she meant what she was saying. It was much more understated in the new version, though. There, she was stumbling away from the scene and found them in a bar.", "I don't remember the bullet hole in the original, nor that they were that aggressive in not believing her.\n\nAt the very least they should have acted like the hole, and blood is fake and taunt her by saying once she's dead she won't be able to steal any of their bounties (believing it is fake), until she faints from the real bloodlos. Only to have the TV confirm her story.", "There are plenty of moments where she gets loud and annoying, but there are equal moments of quiet awe. I hope they can give more than one dimension to the character. When Ed is looking for MPU she is sweet and reserved when talking to the AI. Maybe some better writing in season two will make the whole show suck less", "amazing. Thanks!", "I dunno man, I actually just went and watched the first 10 episodes of the cartoon with your comment in mind so I could really unpack it and see where you're at. I get what you're saying, but I think you're looking for a coral reef in a lake. It's not really that deep, maybe there's something I'm missing but it's just as childish and tacky as any other cartoon I've watched.\n\nAs for Jet being too smart to have a kid he's not taking care of; I saw a whole lot of missing bounties, a wife, no reason to keep the dog (considering he was spending his last dollars on dog food and it was the only thing he talked about getting after the one bounty they successfully captured in 10 episodes) and honestly just don't see the depth of character that you do. Totally tracks that he would have a kid.\n\nGonna go finish the live action show now. Don't really disagree with you just wanted to let you know your comment actually affected me.", "Everyone has their own interpretation. But there certainly is an underlying theme in between their entertaining antics. I think every member of the live action series should've listened to the story about the tiger striped cat. They shouldn't have been able to film until they all understood what it meant. There's a \"feel\" that the anime somehow accomplishes that allows the goofyness While still having the serious segments. The live action series couldn't quite accomplish it and just went all in on the antics.", "You're right, as a whole the anime is iconic and the netflix show is just a goof. I still plan on enjoying it though and it gives some great nostalgia.", "After watching both of the series' to completion, check back in. I'm curious on how people feel about the last scene." ]	1,553	videos	Bebop Seinfeld
https://youtu.be/Ts4NBNP650o	/r/videos/comments/qykla6/rare_sight_of_charlie_munger_complementing_the/	[ "Long build up from Warren, but that was hilarious.", "God knows I love nerds. I love their obsessive, immersive nature. They dive into things with their whole heart and they do not come up for air. There is a deep creativity that fuels them and I love nerd culture and I love the nerdish impulses inside me.\n\nBut the people in this vid have turned their nerd powers to evil. They are evil nerds.\n\nThey have taken that obsessive, immersive, creative power and soiled it in the filthy world of high finance. A world where ecocide and human misery are barely noticed side effects of the much more important game they play - making profits.\n\nDo not imagine there is something wrong with you if you found this vid to be an intolerable stream of dry-sounding gobbledygook - it just means you are a normal, decent person. Do not ever think people like these evil nerds are some kind holy-men with arcane knowledge handed down by gods and therefore are entitled to run the world. They are not. It is simply that the rubbish version of capitalism that prevails in the world rewards evil. In this case: nerd-evil.", "Evil? Buffet has donated 41 BILLION dollars of his wealth to charity. How much do you donate to charity.", "Sorry. My bad. I forgot. Like everything else 'goodness' is measured in dollar amounts. And by that metric Buffet and his smug pal are living saints. \n\nThat 41 billion has really made a difference too - everything's better now. Global Warming's fixed, Endless war has ended and unbiased, factual information runs like tapwater.", "He also lives way below his means. His home is worth less than $800k", "You sound pretty damn ignorant." ]	6	videos	Rare Sight of Charlie Munger complementing the question asked by a shareholder!
https://youtu.be/u4zw99VsoMA	/r/videos/comments/qykxmn/simply_sara_wandas_macaroni_salad_classic/	[ "Damn, this was a blast from the past. Shame she hasn't posted anything new in over a decade, I was kind of hoping to see what she was up to nowadays.", "> Shame she hasn't posted anything new in over a decade, I was kind of hoping to see what she was up to nowadays.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/user/junklovers/videos", "Oh awesome, thank you!" ]	3	videos	Simply Sara - Wanda's Macaroni Salad (Classic)
https://youtu.be/9b-fmr-gRfE	/r/videos/comments/qykz6y/powerwashing_of_a_large_rock_truck_at_a_quarry/	[ "Loading up some boulders, working with the loader or maybe even a backhoe. Woh-ho.", "What is the purpose of regularly washing something like this that will immediately get dirty again and for which aesthetics add nothing?", "P O R N", "I was wondering that myself, in all seriousness.", "Huh, funny how my post of this on /r/powerwashingporn was downvoted. lol now this comment gets downvoted x) Interesting.", "just guessing but excessive buildup could speed up the wear on parts, clean machine is also easier/only way to inspect for damage/cracks and doing maintenance on them would suck less.", "I bet the mechanics love you. There’s nothing more aggravating than working on heavy equipment and having dirt and grit constantly falling on your face, down your shirt, and in your mouth, nose, and eyes.", "Blowing off those CAT logos", "Cleaning and general maintenance of any machinery will extend its life and ensure it performs at full capacity.\n\nThat's a given. \n\nAfter using my snowblower, I could easily not wipe off the snow and salt, but by doing so I would wager I'm extending its life.\n\nYou ever see trucks on the road with that rust spot right above the rear wheel?", "Used as a way to limit the amount of erosion and sediment leaving the site. It’s something that many state DEPs require", "Dust and mud deposits make the vehicle heavier. This increases fuel consumption, especially when the vehicle is actually unladen.\n\nDirt deposits can exert unilateral loads on mechanical parts, which can affect the safety of the vehicle or its mechanical parts.\n\nMaintenance of such vehicles is easier if the mechanic does not have to scrape kilograms of mud crusts off the equipment first. This would only complicate an inspection or repair and ultimately make it more expensive.\n\nSpeaking of inspection, damage to the vehicle is more difficult to detect if there is dust and/or dirt on them.\n\nIf the vehicle has to be driven on a public road, falling mud or flying dust can damage or obscure the view of following vehicles.\n\nProfessionalism: Cleaned construction site vehicles are evidence of professionalism. If vehicles like these are not visually appealing, this can have an influence on later customer acquisition. There is a reason why these vehicles have the name of the company that owns and uses them on their sides.\n\nDepending on the country or state, there are also legal regulations as to whether or how often such a vehicle MUST be cleaned.", "I know of some Redditors who feel the same about their personal hygiene", "Gotta find a nice balance between enough pressure to clean off the dirt without completely destroying the stickers. I like to think the rocks do most of the work, I just finish it off.", "Great answer, thanks for the input. \n\nProfessionalism/respect is a big one for my customer. If the guys see the equipment being taken care of they are going to treat it better themselves. \n\nAlso maintaining the cabs and clearing off the buildup on the radiators.\n\nAnd cleaning off problem areas so the mechanics can access it properly. They use compressed air but it's not the same.", "Is this you? Just curious how much water you go through per vehicle (roughly)? Do you have to refill a lot?", "Yep that's me. Right now I've got two tote tanks on my setup. Roughly 2,200 litres or 580 gallons. I use a rotary tip with a 4.0 orifice at about 1200 PSI primarily, so I am running just under 3 gallons a minute but to do the radiators and other parts I take off the gun and use the valve and about 8 gallons a minute.\n\nI would say about 1 tote tank per vehicle but it is variable based on the amount of buildup. To do the five large pieces and one smaller one I'll have to fill up usually three times. They have a pump on site that I use.", "Real pro... aiming a power-washer inches away from his bare hand...", "you can tell this is washed often as the dirt hasn't had time to fuse with the paint. have washed trucks that might get a wash once a year. took 3 of us several washes using acids that will harm the paint if not careful and it still came out \"bad\".", "tons of reasons if not washed off this amount of dirt will eat away at the paint which leads to rusting.\n\nit can also lead to mechanical failures that otherwise wouldn't happen due to dirt getting in where it shouldn't and an unbalanced load.\n\nthe value of a wash of trucks that remain on site depends on how long it is expected to function. worked at and around a steel mill (still do to a lesser extent) the trucks that load near limit every day 24/7 with quick hauls are gonna be toast within a handful of years. while the trucks that transport lighter higher volume stuff lasts decades.", "Ah brutal. If you can, try HD Brightenol next time and see if that helps. Can two step it as well with Cleansol.\n\nhttps://www.eacochem.com/products/hd-britenol.html\n\nOr if it's really stubborn try NMD80.\n\nThese are modern detergents and don't run the risk of ruining the paint, compared to straight muriatic acid or something like that", "I'll just leave this here\nhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1290000/PowerWash_Simulator/", "Oh yeah, with full 8 GPM too. I may have got caught up in the moment. That video will be a beautiful exhibition of what not to do.", "Awesome, thanks for the info" ]	25	videos	Powerwashing of a large rock truck at a quarry
https://youtu.be/QEXrb6HBVuU	/r/videos/comments/qylxna/harvesting_water_out_of_thin_air/	[ "It's called humidity.", "interesting but just collect rainwater......but in most states having a collection system on your house is \"illegal\" because it somehow tampers with the water table or some asinine shit.", "this is gay", "I am vomit" ]	4	videos	Harvesting water out of thin air
https://hiphopnowtv.com/3-men-attempt-to-rob-a-uber-driver-and-end-up-getting-shit/	/r/videos/comments/qym120/3_men_attempt_to_rob_a_uber_driver_and_end_up/	[ "He might end up in trouble the way he pursued them.", "Good, Fuck those scumbags.", "That always bothered me. Say someone goes up to you and tries to rob you (as in this case). You defend yourself and the assaulter finds out they bit off more than they bargained for they start to run away. How do you know they won't come back later and try again? Or go for your family? Yet we have this idea 'Oh, he is retreating, that means he is no longer a danger' and people have went to jail over this.", "I would assume in a \"perfect world\", and maybe by law (I don't know specifically), the idea is the immediate threat is over, at which you do what you can to contact authorities, who then would pursue the attacker or whatever and protect you. Again, in a perfect world, not exactly how it would always work out in life though.", "You have the right to defend yourself, you don't have the right to execute any person you think may potentially be a threat in the future after the immediate threat has passed. That's psycho shit.", "> Or go for your family?\n\n???????", "As opposed to....?", "I don't think so. There is no point in this interaction you could argue he was not LEGITIMATELY in fear for his life. One person verbally threatened to shoot him. Even if there is a legitimate argument to be made that he should not have pursued, I highly doubt a jury would convict after seeing this video.", "Naw, at that point there can be an argument for heat of the moment.\n\nHonestly should have stopped shooting as they ran away, and just aimed his gun at the guy in the car.", "When do you know the immediate threat is over? They could double back and shoot him. It isn't like he left, went to grab a gun, and came back. In his eyes, he could reasonably argue that he was indeed still in fear for his life, as someone had just threatened to shoot him.", "Depending on how the laws are written, I would. If somebody is attempting to flee (especially given he ran around the corner and out of line of sight), my path to safety is to flee in the other direction. Rittenhouse was running AWAY from the threat when he shot. This idiot is running TOWARDS it.", ">an argument for heat of the moment.\n\nWhich is used as a justification to get [Murder reduced to Manslaughter](https://www.chamberslawfirmca.com/what-is-a-heat-of-passion-murder/). Probably not what this guy had in mind.", "I heard the urber driver crossed state lines to make that delivery…", "I don't think the Rittenhouse case should be the standard. This is much closer to a textbook self defense case than his case was. These guys were A. robbing him and B. threatening to kill him. All of this happened over like thirty seconds. We do not live in a reasonable society if this is not self defense, but Rittenhouse was. It's not like he was walking around with a gun on full display which could draw attention, he was just delivering food. If this guy is charged, he should absolutely take it to the jury, they would not convict in my opinion. But I could be dumb.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nAlso, how is this guy an idiot? He was attacked by three people and defended himself. He did not go looking for trouble.... and he didn't pull a Travis McMichael and try to chase them for a mile or two.", "Probably not: two weapons were recovered on scene. This dude was jumped by three armed assailants and fought for his life.\n\nEdit: just listened with the sound on, he let the guy around the corner run away after he begged for his life. Technically turning the corner was the wrong thing, but he didn’t kill the guy and could have.", "No psycho shit is fucking with someone in any way, shape, or form, without consent.", "Going out of your way out of state with an AR-15 while verbally expressing that you are going to \"shoot some mtherfclears\" that's the difference.", "Robbing a guy with a firearm and now he begs for his life? What a scummy little bitch.", "Oh your talking about Rittenhouse.\n\n\nI thought he worked in Kenosha and his dad lived there as well. And wasn't the rifle registered to be stored in Wisconsin?\n\nIt seems your facts are different than mine but I'm not American so mine might be wrong.", "Nah his dad lives in Kenosha he lives in Illinois so the gun laws don't apply to him. He also didn't buy the gun himself, it was bought for him by a friend which is and is super illegal, but for some reason it wasn't ruled as such. In my state of NY you not only get a felony for illegal possession of firearm but also manslaughter but rules bend differently for people of the Caucasian persuasion in Midwestern states.", "I'll be honest here, I enjoyed the \"No! Please!\" more than I probably should have.", "The key element there is immediacy. The fact that they would have to \"double back\" generally makes it not immediate.\n\nYeah there's an argument to be made that it still qualified as immediate but it's by no means a certainty.", "If he was Butters he would.", "So his dad lived in Kenosha, at least we can agree to that.\n\nAlso the purchase you are attempting to describe is refered to as a \"straw man purchase\", which is illegal.\n\nBut under law a weapon can be purchased in trust for an individual before they are of legal age to purchase it themselves.The Judge even stated that even the possession charge is minor.\n\nNew York has some of the strictest gun laws in North America, not really the metric you want to use. Especially given the cities disproportionately high rate of gun violence.\n\n\nI must ask what are your opinions of Grosskreutz being in possession of an illegal firearm at the riots? Knowingly as well because he had allowed his CC to expire?", "He shouldn't have had a gun either. I'm not defending the people he killed, that's irrelevant. People going after the victims' character are forgetting that a 17 year old boy cannot be the judge, jury and executioner. Grosskreutz shouldn't have had a gun, but he only made it visible when Kyle was seen hoisting it to aim at others.", "Meh, wash. Glad nobody died. I still think it’s possible to murder someone who attempted to rob you, or even previously harm you to some extent. In the U.S. benefit of the doubt for a killer who suggests defense pretty much only happens when the killer is white.", "Kyle is the only victim. Those who were shot are the perpetrators. A 17 year old can defend himself and did. Grosskreutz only pulled his gun when people in a crowd of strangers said to kill Kyle.", "I am more concerned with the number of shots fired and the proximity of his neighbors. He may have poked holes in some houses, I hope he didn't poke holes in innocent people. I have a shotgun for home defense because my neighbors are close.", "Wait has anyone found out the politics of the driver? How else is Reddit going to know if they should be angry or not?", "I don't understand how people are still trying to push the false narrative. The facts are out there. The courts decided. It's over.\n\nIt's absurd, but they still keep pushing.\n\nKind of like the childish idea that if you just scream loud enough you will get what you want.", "This isn’t their first rodeo. I’m happy he chased them down.", "Some people just can't accept that they were knowingly lied to for 14 months.", "They threatened to shoot him. Which reasonably means if they're within 50 meters or so they are still a deadly threat. Would that fulfill immediacy?", "Well... Baiting them out is going to be fun.\n\n\n\"Your facts are different than mine but I'm not American so I don't know if my facts are correct\"\n\n\nHow the fuck isn't that an obvious feint to draw someone out?", "Like I said it's debatable. \n\nAt the point where they're pleading for their life? Really, really unlikely.\n\nAt the point where one had rounded a corner and was actively running away? Also unlikely.\n\nGenerally if an assailant is fleeing they're not considered an immediate threat any longer. That's pretty consistent throughout jurisdictions. It's why self defense is almost never a simple thing to prove.\n\nIn this case? Couldn't say. The video doesn't provide a full view and it happens in the span of like 20 seconds of activity. I'm curious how it'll end up. I'd like to think he has a good case all things considered.", "There's a definite possibility that they'll return, possibly with more guys. And of course, it depends on jurisdiction. I don't know where this happened, but every place has different standards for what qualifies as self-defense. But as a general cover-your-own-ass rule, it's wise not to chase after someone and shoot at them from behind, because if they're fleeing, it'll probably be argued that you went from defender to attacker.", "Jesus fucking Christ. This whole thread right here is terrifying to me as someone not American. That people could buy a gun and not know what self defence really means? Fucking shocking. “But could I defend myself against someone who tried to do something to me because they could still be within a certain radius and may come to find me again at some point in my life. \n\nUnbelievable.", "I’m not sure it can be certain but I’m pretty sure the guy begging for his life is the one the guy shot to fucking death on the ground / stumbling away. Hasn’t quite realised he’s dying.", "Well, I've spent 6 years in the military and I've spent about three years in Iraq/Afghanistan... so you're really jumping to dumb conclusions. I understand the laws in my state, but each state has their own set of laws. Additionally, why would a law degree be required to own a gun, if guns are legal? I simply posed a question on a random reddit thread and you blabber this nonsense on American gun philosophy.", "> so the gun laws don't apply to him.\n\nAll laws apply to the jurisdiction, not the individual. If you're in Kenosha, Wisconsin, you're subject to the laws of Wisconsin and city ordinances of Kenosha. It doesn't matter if you're from Antioch, Illinois; Kenosha, Wisconsin; or Paris, France. You are subject to the laws of whatever place you're in, not the place you're from. Similarly, you can't go to Texas, where there is no legal recreational weed, and legally buy recreational weed. Not even if you're from California, where recreational weed is legal.\n\n>He also didn't buy the gun himself, it was bought for him by a friend which is and is super illegal, but for some reason it wasn't ruled as such.\n\nThe rifle was to be purchased by Rittenhouse when he could legally own a rifle, which is legal. You're thinking of a straw purchase, which is where someone buys a firearm for a prohibited person and sells it to them while they're still prohibited. The weapons charge was dropped because being in physical possession of a rifle was not illegal, he just couldn't legally own one.\n\n>In my state of NY you not only get a felony for illegal possession of firearm but also manslaughter but rules bend differently for people of the Caucasian persuasion in Midwestern states.\n\nNY violates your rights in quite a few ways, not just with regard to guns. Well-known fact. Your point?", "And I assume the Uber driver was fired? A violation of policy here, not that I agree, but that’s where this goes right? I hear Spanish so I figure they will be quicker to be “inclusive” here right? One thing Uber won’t do, and I promise this, stand by an employee and provide a lawyer to ensure his rights are protected. If you disagree, come at me with facts and change my mind.", "😂 god damn I wish this was less true", "Why would you rob a uber eats delivery guy? I get that robbers are naturally dumb, or they wouldn’t be robbers, but still. \n\nIf the man had money, he wouldn’t be driving Uber in the middle of the night.\n\nAnd Uber drivers are paid via app, so not like he holding a fat stack of cash.", "Lol", "> Glad nobody died.\n\nHow do you know that. Is there an article?", "There's a tremendous amount of fear in our society unfortunately and many, many people legitimately do see self-defense as a valid argument for taking care of potential problems, not just active ones. \n\nIt's something that comes up in every thread like this. Many people have trouble differentiating between what what is a present threat and what is a simple hypothetical. I don't blame them because there's a whole lot of people in the US who have been taught and raised to believe they're regularly two steps away from sudden death or injury.\n\nOr at least that's what I've experienced and seen.", "Actually 1 died and 1 on critical condition\n\nhttps://6abc.com/shooting-attempted-robbery-philadelphia-crime-city/11256875/", "I watched the video. Thought two ran left and one went right and I saw the one on the right come back. Guess I was wrong. Whatever", "You definitely answered the question in the second sentence and your logic following is completely sound. Maybe the car was the main goal? If so though, they could've just jumped in and attempted a getaway instead of splitting up and going for both.", "'MURICA!!" ]	51	videos	3 Men attempt to rob a uber driver and end up getting shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJXeWM2U7zw	/r/videos/comments/qynbb5/guy_thinks_windmill_are_used_to_cool_down_the/	[ "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY\n\nGOODNIGHT", "”…stand in front of it, I bet you be cold…” \n\nWow.", "Bro just wear it , pointing at the helmet xD", "I have a small amount of personal contempt for people that think fans actually lower the temperature pf the air, rather than just moving it around.", "And I for people that seem to miss the fact that they can cool people down", "If you are going to repost, at least link to their channel rather than some shitty repost channel. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o4ulSPY4d8&t=459s", "Only when you're actually within the moving airstream, and that's only your skin/body evaporation, NOT the air being cooled. I'm talking about people that leave them running in empty and/or closed rooms thinking they are having any cooling effect, and on top of that every running fan generates some waste heat.\n\nNo one has ever missed the fact that a fan pointed AT them has a cooling effect, dude.", "\"windmill\" is not a wind turbine", "That's like saying \"No one has ever missed the fact that wind turbines are used to generate electricity and they're not just big fans to cool the earth, dude\" \n\nI hadn't realized you spoke with everyone in the entire history of human kind and confirmed that not a single person thought fan's lower the actual temperature. You're first paragraph was sufficent, last sentence was just dumb.\n\nEdit: spelling", "Good example of why the influential individuals think that the rest of us are just walking around with half a brain..", "Okay bud" ]	11	videos	Guy thinks windmill are used to cool down the earth.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qyni42/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qyni42/deleted_by_user/	[ "That's a bummer. I laid my bike down for the first time a couple weeks ago. Was going real slow approaching a stop light and ran over some gravel not paying attention. I might have had the wherewithal to get off the front brake if I were expecting it. At that point there's not much you can do. I was just glad I didn't hit any of the stopped cars nearby.", "That’s gravel was damn near invisible! I couldn’t tell it was there until you started moving it around.", "Old mate going being flouncy in the seat wasn't going around a hair pin. To much pace no respect.", "Respect for invisible gravel?", "This is why you wear full leathers. Those plain canvas pants didn't hold up at all and he slid for like 2 seconds at a fairly slow speed.", "why does he stick his knee out like a poser? its not like he is on the track or getting anywhere near knee down at that lean angle.", "He knew it was slick and he could slide, but he still took that turn at that angle. Slow the fuck down if the road is slick!" ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhCLZ_ZuxQ	/r/videos/comments/qynrcj/dark_scooby_doo/	[ "Go team Venture!", "Not gonna lie I might watch this.", "no!", "They're incredibly minor bit characters but they're from The Venture Bros, probably the best thing Adult Swim's made depending on who you ask.", "if you havent you are missing out, venture bros is a fantastic show, a rare example of a show that manages to stay consistently good throughout its entire run. you will not be disappointed", "i love this show, thank fuck HBO stepped in to ensure we actually get an ending", "HOT DOLPHIN!!", "Metalocalypse is up there, but I'll never forgive them for fucking over anybody's chance to give it a proper ending.\n\nMoral Orel is a subversive masterpiece, as well. I don't think Rick and Morty or Bojack Horseman exist without Moral Orel existing first. Just watch \"Nature\" part 1 and 2 if you need a microcosm of the show.", "Wish they'd just pick it up as a streaming exclusive. Maybe give them a budget to where they could animate in-house and not ship to Korea. Although I'm pretty sure animation isn't the only issue. While I don't know for certain I'd guess some of the time between seasons is due to them being pretty meticulous and perfectionist writers.\n\nWhatever it is at least they'll get to wrap it up. I hate that, but at least it will have an ending.", "As the other commenter said, they're minor characters, only there for that episode, but it's probably up there as one of the best shows made (I am biased though).\n\n It's something that could have easily been written like Family Guy or The Simpsons where the characters just reset every episode, but there's actual progression for almost all characters.", "Wait, what?", "Adult Swim cancelled the Venture Brothers (where this clip is from). HBO picked it up for a finale movie to wrap it up. It's not enough, but am also grateful the creators will get to end this adventure with something.", "> Adult Swim cancelled the Venture Brothers\n\nYeah I knew that.\n\n>HBO picked it up for a finale movie to wrap it up.\n\nHadn't heard that before.", "HBO's been killing it with content lately...", "A-are we ? Don't get my hopes up man ! I had wiped the existence of the show from my memory because it hurt too much to think about it... \n\nIs there more coming? For real?!", "You should. The entire show is pure gold if you like the dark sarcastic take on super hero stuff. Think The Boys from the point of view of a washed up villain (kinda), with a lot less gore. There are just so. many. references to other shows. Every episode is a treat.", "Wanna blow your pants off ?\n\nVenture Bros, Metalocalypse and Aqua Teen Hunger Force movies are in the works.", "The best thing to come from the Venture Brothers wasn't even one of the episodes. The funniest thing was an audio only recording of The Monarch calling Dr. Girlfriend from jail. It had me in tears.", "✌", "Brutal as fuck.", "Moral Orel is really good. That second (and last) season went dark though huh? I remember watching as a teenager and wondering why I was so depressed after watching a comedy? I watched the 1st season when it was released and wasn't ready for what was in store. Dino and the writers really went to some deep places in that one.", "\"Yours is the wheel of blood!\"\n\nNever thought I'd hear Scoob (or his tribute) say that.\n\nVenture Brothers is one of the greatest shows ever made. I realize this every now and again.", "It's really not just superhero stuff, although it did anticipate all the marvel vomit, and had way more fun with the material. \n\n\nThere's no way to say this without it sounding like pretentious bullshit, but it's true. The recurrent theme is this doe-eyed postwar retrofuturism (as in, the fantastic world of tomorrow, the way it's imagined by the past) as a kind of hauntological wasteland for the neoliberal era, which is a heap of meaningless failure and disappointment.\n\nIt's pretty much David Graeber's \"Of Flying Cars and the Declining Rate of Profit\" except a lot funnier.", "✌️", "They just started recording the dialog for Dr Orpheus.", "https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/adult-swim-are-bringing-back-metalocalypse-for-a-feature-length-film/", "I fucking love this show and whoever cancelled it needs to be dipped in honey and eaten by chiggers.\n\nIt's such bullshit that they cancelled it but it's now available on a streaming platform so people can actually watch it properly since the show is on a timeline and you kind of need to watch it in order.\n\nThe Venture Bros are the main characters but the show arcs around side characters who are really well developed and hilarious. I'm not sure who has the best banter. 21 & 24, Red Mantle & Dragoon, Pete & Billy, The Order of the Triad, or Watch & Ward.\n\nAnd there needs to be more of Red Death. Best villain ever.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/fKFVoMK4-os", "Idk how I missed that but it was gold https://ffmovies.ign.com/filmforce/audio/article/561/561302/monarch_girlfriend.mp3?_gl=162r4xv_gaRlM2WDAxcHQxWWFzY05RRldScmtJYkplcnJzQ3g4R2RvZkxZUUJWSXlGRVhkcTdfRXF3MnpPSUxEWHNBN3JlMw..", "That was funny, never heard that before, we all love dr. Girlfriend, but honestly not even in the top 100 of funny venture bros scenes", "Dah nah nah nah* nah!", "\"HE IS PISSING ON YOUR LAWN MAN!!\"", "I haven't had an HBO account for years until recently. What else would you suggest?", "Also did Metalocolypse and ATHF.", "The first season felt mostly like \"Aren't these religious folk silly? Boy howdy\" while the second season was way more \"yeah this is some Lynchian dark underbelly of 'perfect' suburbia and a bleak reflection of the loss of innocence\"\n\nIt definitely went dark", "Oh i agree! The supervillains stuff is only a tiny fraction of the show. It's just a bit hard to introduce it all to people, so I think it's simple to just give the initial premise and let them discover.", "And he'll be the last character they finish recording too.", "Even Bear with a Knife got some growth in.", "\"That's a 'Home-boy.' But be careful! That houses the souls of TWO FOULMOUTHED REDNECKS!\"", "My favorite sequence is probably [21 gearing up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0iTfasIpLc) after the Monarch gets out of prison in season 2.", "Dr. Z and Action Johnny!", "What's not to recommend? They produce a lot of great shows. Westworld was great, Raised by Wolves was great, Lovecraft County was great, His Dark Materials has a great start(but needs more seasons), White Lotus was great(although very stressful to watch), Watchment was great, Barry was amazing, Chernobyl was great(if depressing), Silicon Valley was great, The Nevers was great.\n\nAlright, I'm going to stop now. I think HBO Max is one of the best producers of TV series out there right now, and there is a lot of competition.", "This show was so well written and everything. I wish we had more quality shows like Venture Bros", "Dududu du dududu \nBaaaaaaaah\nBaaah\nBaaaaaaaaaaaaaah", "Thank you for not mentioning game of thrones.... the bastards did us dirty", "Agreed. GoT was all about building up. The entire series it was building. And it didn't pay off, so all that building was pointless, so that tainted the entire series in my mind. GoT and Lost are both dead to me now.", "IIRC the network liked Nature 1 and 2 so much they gave the show free reign to go as dark as possible.\n\nThen they aired S3 E4 and the network deemed it too dark and cancelled the show.", "Moral Orel has a lot going for it, it's weirdly poignant and very dark. I'll always be a venture bros guy though, but they're both emotional stories about intergenerational trauma.", "Something I like about Venture Bros was it's ability to mash up things you'd never even think about. Having Fred as Ted Bundy, Daphne as Patty Hearst, Velma as Valerie Solanas and Shaggy as The Son of Sam is just genius and the episode they're in is one of my favourites for sure.", "Your powers are useless on me silly billy", "This episode of the Venture Bros is hilarious, but it's a little atypical of the show. It's one of the only episodes written by Ben Edlund, the creator of The Tick. If you thought this was funny, check out The Tick! Any of the TV series will do, they're all different from each other but are all excellent.", "I've been trying to find a clip of the scene or the episode name I remember as the funniest scene in the show. Dean on Halloween dressed as a ghost to Triana's lawn. Put her name with standing letters, and then the T caught fire. It was at the end of an episode.", "Season 4 finale, Operation: P.R.O.M", "Daddy’s home.", "Its actually HBO Max, not the HBO cable channel", "The Johnny Quest bit was gold, too.", "Thank you", "ATHF must reuse their [intro from Mastodon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0DdJXEG4Q4).", "It's the post-credits scene I believe", "Lol I never knew about that. I also really appreciated the Art of Noise reference in the episode where Thaddeus Venture becomes trapped in his father’s underground bunker with all those people that worship him.", "If I recall correctly, Doc Hammer had some pretty aggressive medical issues towards the later seasons, which I think played a big role in why each season took so long.", "The fact that nothing in this post or video credits the Venture brothers is angering.", "Half of those are far from great.", "Obviously \"great\" is subjective and just my opinion. You don't have to agree with me, but icansee4ever asked for what we suggest, so I suggested ones I like.", "AND THAT DOG FUCKING TALKS!", "Correct, just offering my own opinion that half of them are far from great.", "This was the first episode I saw of Venture Bros, and remains my favorite. Fun fact: this is the only episode that doesn't have Jackson Publick or Doc Hammer credited as a writer. It was written by Ben Edlund, better known as writer/creator of every incarnation of The Tick.", "Not very useful when you don't say which half.", "The show with possibly the funniest Sean Connery impression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd0wTvKfefE", "\\>Yours is the Wheel of Blood. Yours is the sword of Michael\n\nBased AF.", "He punched that guy so hard he gave him an afro!", "Go team Venture!", "Westworld, Raised by Wolves, Lovecraft Country, His Dark Materials, The Nevers, and arguably Watchmen.", "Also Leftovers, True Detective, and Veep!", "That's interesting. Those are some of my favorite. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.", "The Wire, Succession, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Deadwood, The Sopranos, Veep, The Leftovers\n\nThere is no other streaming service that comes even close to the quality of HBO TV", "What a bummer they cancelled the next season :(", "What did you think of Raised by Wolves? I'll judge your other statements based on that.", "It was never about the destination. It was about the journey... \n* anime music ", "I find Moral Orel hard to watch because I grew up watching the Christian show it was based on (Davey and Goliath I think?) It creeped me out as a kid and it Moral Orel creeps me out now lol", "Starz and Showtime will have a few things, but really, for the content, the only real competition is Disney+ and that's going to be strictly a much more family-friendly vibe overall. Netflix has really stepped up in recent years but it still lacks the depth of HBO's finest. Expected, because HBO has been doing this for decades and Netflix is new to this game. Amazon is starting to show promise, too. Invincible is amazing.", "I've been watching doom patrol. It's really shitty but I'll actually watch it whereas most things I can't watch at all. \n\nGirls is older but is fucking amazing.", "Yeah even on a lesser level it's fun just to watch a show that's basically 'where are they now' for these rosy cheeked boy adventurers and paragons of justice and virtue and scientific discovery. And they all turned out to be shitty people who never lived up to their own hype.", "I always found it funny that a cartoon about a hang of teenagers traveling around solving supernatural mysteries which turn out to be people in masks or a sheet over them have no problem with the supernaturally talking dogs traveling with them.", "GoT was like asking out your crush on Monday, she says yes. She texts you progressively provocative texts all week. Friday afternoon she tells you to bring condoms. You finally get to her place and then you jizz in your pants. She notices. You turn around and go home. You kinda wish Friday didn't even happen because Monday through Thursday was so good.", "Agreed.", "Well, had he mentioned those, I wouldn't have said anything. Unfortunately, aside from Succession and Curb Your Enthusiasm, none of them are particularly recent.", "How dare you skip the best show right now: Succession", "Brock I'm trapped with a confessed arsonist down here!!", "The most important step, it's not the first one. It's the next step, always the next step... If I am to fall, may I rise each time a better man.", "Never hear that but it would make sense....on top of them being ridiculously meticulous about continuity and the show's entire mythos.\n\nThat being said...they can take all the damn time they want...every season has been fantastic.", "My powder blue Nissan Stanza", "He broke his back very bad. Managed to get himself back to standing and walking but yea hes borderline paralyzed. Was still working on the show in the hospital.", "I'd stick my neck out and say Venture Bros. was the best thing they've ever had on the network", "I thought it was a beautiful mess that got sloppier towards the last few episodes. I'm nervous that the show's creators are taking a Lindelof-style approach by crafting a fascinating and mysterious narrative with no idea where to go with it. I think that Amanda Collin and Travis Fimmel are terrific in it (even if Fimmel is simply playing space-Ragnar), but I think some of the kid actors were/are annoying. I'll probably tune in next season, but with low expectations. The first season was far from great.", "Omfg dude Hunter Gathers. What a hero", "Veep ended in 2019 and The Leftovers in 2017. I'd still call those fairly recent. Fair point on the rest but I was more just showing that HBO is definitely known for its quality TV", "Yeah, I can't disagree with that.", "HBO Max also has Close Enough, which is by the same creator of Regular Show that's more adult. They also have the Adventure Time anthology/specials thing that's a few long episodes about certain characters.", "Best. Show. Ever.", "Sounds like I need to watch season 2 lol. I watched the first season and enjoyed it, but felt no need to continue.", "They somehow packed this into the same episode as Venturestein and Brock's ayahuasca vision quest featuring giant Colonel Gathers. The whole thing was solid gold from start to finish.", "Ya take a schcubah schnorkel...", "I am the fire starter!", "Bar fight scene cracks me up\n\nhttps://youtu.be/VF2Hli6oKeA", "Righteous Gemstones season 2 is around the corner as well.", "Wait, what was this AoN reference? I'm a huge fan of the group and the show, so I'm surprised I missed this!", "It started out so well! I was genuinely intrigued and fascinated by the possibilities. Then they had to go all \"Let's subvert expectations!\" I was expecting the show to get more interesting and better.", "MY TITSH ARE BACK!", "I really enjoyed the Regular Show and appreciated how bonkers it was. I'm glad it came to an end, though, as I feared it would become lame. That last episode was sweet.\n\nI didn't think I'd like Close Enough, thinking it was mostly young family stuff, but it's sufficiently bonkers to keep me coming back.\n\nSuperb voice acting in these shows.", "Twisted firestarter.", "Hot Dolphin!", "Yes, it happens right after the Dr. Venture “convicted arsonist” line lol.", "God, I miss 24. So many times I wished I could do that voice when being sarcastic.", "Nah, Close Enough is essentially like an unrestricted adult version of Regular Show. While they don't generally go way too far with it, there's plenty that they wouldn't normally be able to show on Cartoon Network.", "Damn the whole show is about twisted Scooby Doo?", "The second live-action version was absolutely brilliant. Every bit as engaging as the original cartoon.", "Also more character development than any other animated series.", "Yup. The original spoof is both Rusty and later Action Johnny: what if the kid from Jonny Quest grew up and needed, like, a ton of therapy?", "I'm a simple man, I see venture bros a tear slalom down my cheek and I upvote.", "Love how it turns it on and off. My personal favorite was Dr. Henry Killinger. I still don't know how I feel about the guy.", "I mean... It's a creepy show", "Yeah, I'm not saying that it's better than Venture Bros, it's just underrated", "Third season is the reallllllll dark one. Second gets darkest near the end. It's always dark though", "Is there more to this than the clip?! I'd love to see the rest of it/their hijinks if there's more. (I do know this is from venture bros based on comments below, but I'm wondering if this dark Scooby storyline continues past this clip).", "This is not the Johnny Quest parody though, right?", "Did he really kill that guy on the train tracks?", "How could you forget the all the great interactions between brock Sampson and Molotov Cocktease?", "We don't know.", "I am zee proud poppa!", "Dr Z is hilarious and Action Johnny is kind of nuts.", "There are more hijinks with the gang in this episode. In fact this episode has a pretty big reveal towards the end that is pretty big for the Venture Bros. I highly recommend watching the whole show if you haven't yet though. If you ever watch the old Hannah Barbara cartoons then you will enjoy this show.", "Never.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/UfEc9J73BO4", "The Tick was fantastic.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/KkzptjhCkbs", "Wow that’s really awesome and I never made that correlation !", "Fell asleep while on season 3 and lost my place, really need to go back and finish watching !", "TORN MENISCUS!", "Yeahhhhh…..they do that sometimes.", "The groovy treats are his anti psychotics", "Weirdly enough the other two episodes he co-wrote (the two with Bud Manstrong) are probably the worst two in the series. Especially State Dinner,* although both of them obviously played a big part in the mythology of the show in season seven. But I always wondered why those two turned out so rough when this episode was so great.", "It began like that and became much more.", "These characters pretty much only appear in this episode (a couple of them cameo in a later episode but it's essentially unrelated to the Scooby-Doo parody).", "They really have. I hope now maybe we can get the final season of Metalocalypse", "If I recall correctly they're getting a movie too", "The Migh Ty Mon Narch!", "It really picks up in the later seasons, wasn't a big fan of the first couple.", "Yeah, I don't know what happened there. I only see Guess Who's Coming To State Dinner when doing a series rewatch, and it's somehow always worse than I remember. For what it's worth, he only received a co-story by credit in those two.", "you do know that Jackson Publick wrote for the tick right?", "I do, though it doesn't change how that particular episode feels almost out of place. Ben's style of humor is very similar to Doc and Jackson, but it is still distinct.", "> 1964 World's Fair\n\nYes! If I had to sum up the aesthetic in a few slides, it'd be the World's Fair and a dick shaped like Henry Kissinger popping out of Dr. Venture's underpants.", "Fun fact: this is the only episode of Venture Brothers not written by its creators.", "Kind of. The entire show parodies Johnny Quest but the character Action Johnny is based on him straight up. He just has severe mental health issues and is usually on a lot of drugs.", "Best Little. Whorehouse. In. Texas. Meow", "Brock, I am this close to seeing Dolly's goods. I mean, they can't sing forever.", "I am watching through the old Scooby-Doo series right now with my daughter and she loves them. It's been way too long since I've seen this episode of Venture Brothers, thank you for the fuel that will allow me to enjoy Scooby-Doo again", "Maybe even a final season for Game of Thrones. Weird that it ended abruptly at season 6.", "That episode has the entire AoN band in it, it also has the girl from [their music video \"Close (to the edit)\"](https://youtu.be/-sFK0-lcjGU). \nIt also has Keith Flint, front man of Prodigy, in his outfit from their [\"Firestarter\" music video](https://youtu.be/wmin5WkOuPw), which sampled the \"HEY\" from AoN's song \"Close (to the edit)\". \nTheir references had so many layers lol.\n \n[Here's the Venture Bro's clip that features them all](https://youtu.be/Pq31ieJEX3U)", "there is indeed, Doc hammer just tweeted that hes currently recording voice lines for shoreleave", "I WILL RIP YOUR WIFE IN HALF!!!!!!!", "and shoreleave", "apparently from what i read one of the head honchos was a big fan and pushed to save it, theyre already recording voice lines", "Boom, yummy!", "Oh man, I wish they had a full on spin off with just Dr Orpheus. He's consistently been my favourite character.", "That scene regularly just pops up in my brain. It's been fucking years!\nIt's amazing to me how they managed to hit that bitter sweet note. Like, this is a hilarious parody show, but that interaction was genuinely heart-touching for me. Plus the song is absolutely fantastic.\nLiterally brings tears to my eyes every time T_T", "...and I am probably due for a research anyway.", "Him and the Triad are probably my favourite side characters just for him alone. I absolutely agree with you. That'd be a great show that they could do so much with.", "Thank you! I don't know how, but I forgot it. I guess it's almost time for a Venture Bros binge." ]	167	videos	Dark Scooby Doo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgWOvnO3K2Q	/r/videos/comments/qyo5ei/oklahoma_general_thomas_mancino_is_telling_his/	[ "Best of luck on your civil war fomentation! The red noses seem an odd choice though.", ">Oklahoma General Thomas Mancino is telling his men to resist the COVID-19 vaccine mandate!\n\nMaybe that is true, i don't know, the video is just him saying he takes his orders from the governor, and that if anyone is going to take a fall and get in trouble its himself.\n\nThis is an idiotic situation the state is in, but this title isn't accurate at all in regards to this audio clip.", "Good. Tyranny.", "Jan 6th tyranny?", "Mancino's Antivaccine-o's", "I can only imagine how long your lists are.", "? I don't actually support those idiots, I just wanted to join in on the crazy regiment naming too :(" ]	7	videos	Oklahoma General Thomas Mancino is telling his men to resist the COVID-19 vaccine mandate!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKPDaiJTX9M	/r/videos/comments/qyog4v/metal_gear_solid_2_in_2001_predicting_the/	[ "That brought back memories, good memories!\n\nSome video games contain great aspects and predictions of the future and this is one of them", "Perfectly describes the effect of social media on society", "Lol what is this pompous nonsense?", "The early games really felt like you were being let in on some major conspiracy stuff. I guess sometimes we were. Kojima is a legend.", "Nanomachines, son.", "But incidentally the A.I.'s solution is reminiscent of the other big problem with the age of social media; the ability for powerful governments and organisations to selectively censor what they deem to be irrelevant, misleading etc. information and therefore leave whatever remains as the de facto \"truth\" that gets shared, not to mention things like choosing which ads people see or which content is recommended which gives them enormous influence over what \"truth\" people experience.", "[You should check out Paper Starship video on my MGS2 is a masterpeice](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGG940kArLE)\n\n[Steak Bentley has a video on why MGS4 was a failure as well, both are must watches if your into video games](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93-_r0w7ykI)", "\"Pompous nonsense\". Video alluding to social media.\n\nIf the shoe fits.", "14 yr old me playing MGS2 in 2002: wtf are they talking about\n\n2021: 😮", ">Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of the larger forum.\n\nCalling out Reddit before it even existed." ]	10	videos	Metal Gear Solid 2 in 2001 Predicting The Accurate Future
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qyozuh/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qyozuh/deleted_by_user/	[ "I used to cry laughing watching this guy. Still funny AF", "I'm but a simple man. I see Ali G video, I click on Ali G video.", "This is funny but mistitled, its a best of really. he doesn't break character once", "good point edited title" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=49QjCRmln-0&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qyr89v/puppet_takes_vaccine_reaction_is_hilarious/	[ "😅", "Tf? Lame", "this is some fucking stupid anti-science \"edgy\" humor. fuck this shit. this is right wing douche bags going \"we can be funny!!!\" while also trying to undermine the scientific community and promote habits that kill people unnecessarily . Vaccines dont fuck you up and are not dangerous, fuck this video." ]	3	videos	Puppet Takes Vaccine, Reaction Is Hilarious
https://youtu.be/jYgyTvvcM6c	/r/videos/comments/qyrw98/computer_science_professors_be_like/	[ "Well good luck doing that without finite state machines. Idiot.", "This is giving me flashbacks to my maths university lectures … it’s not until after you graduate that you truly appreciate how irrelevant 99% of this knowledge is to real world jobs.", "I took a CS class once and on day one the professor was like this but was writing and speaking quicker. \n\n\nI noped right out of that.", "The casting couch looks ominous in this context.", "One of the lecturers in my university seemed to think that every database engineer should learn database theory first and THEN move on to practical stuff.\n\nNeedless to say, anyone who didn't already have a lot of experience with SQL failed to understand anything about the theory.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nJust because a practical application was built on top of math doesn't mean you should teach math first and applications later.\n\nDo what every good physics and chemistry teacher does: give people some practical examples first, get them wondering \"why does X have to Y?\" or \"how to fix problem Z?\", and then answer that question with theory.", "Thanks, now my suppressed memories of set theory lectures have surfaced", "I wonder how many engineers thought they'd be building rockets are now working at a firm that folds paper.", "The players are different but the situation is the same, someones getting fucked.", "The end got me, I used to be a lab coach and one time a student was struggling with the entry level course, I was alluding to solutions when he was struggling with loops and was mad I wouldn't just give him the answer. He said, I don't want to learn all this stuff I came here to learn to make video games.\n\n\nedit: need to brush up on my antonyms", "I had a similar experience, and the class was mostly noobs like me with a handful of students who already knew how to code, but had to take the course as their major requirement. Everyone was either thoroughly lost or already knew everything, nothing in between, so nobody really asked questions. The instructor was so put off by this that by the third session or so, he got mad and declared that if we weren't going to talk, neither was he. And he sat down and sulked for a while.\n\nspelling", "Have to say, I kind of agree with your professor.\n\nI've been a developer for a couple of decades and I've had to maintain or fix so many apps that had poor database design. But on the other hand, I've seen apps with solid database designs long outlast their original UI.", "No the answer is actually finite state Turing machine.", "I wish more institutions offered Software Engineering degrees and that more undergraduate applicants were aware of the difference between Computer Science and Software Engineering. Having said that I tutored an undergraduate student on a Software Engineering/IT degree whose first class turned out to be a completely abstract presentation of two's complement notation. She just wanted to learn to build databases.", "And wishing they were building rockets cuz that's easier.", "Absolutely. I had to deal with a badly designed database myself and it was a brutal object lesson as to why I should always think in terms of \"how can a user screw this up?\" when designing my own DBs.\n\nBut good database design is based more on common sense and practical considerations than on math.\n\nSo it's better to start with practice (here's an example of atrocious database design; let's see where it'll go wrong and how to fix it step by step) and then turn lessons learned into theory.", "Maybe it's because I am not American, but I don't really get it ? We have schools for programming, and school for game programming.\n\nIf your goal is to make a video game, none of this is useful. But can you blame computer science teachers for teaching you... computer science ? This isn't a crash course for web or game dev, for databases. It's, quite litterally... Computer science.\n\nI was taught, in computer science courses, how to make a compiler from scratch, with automatons etc. I am not sure I will ever make another one, because frankly that's torture. But I can respect that I should be taught how things work, in a depth I will never face in my everyday job.\n\nUniversity should teach knowledge, always. Practical things are taught in practical courses/schools, and in jobs themselves. Don't blame the courses, blame society for pushing you to a school that does not fit your needs.", "Unity is not magic. Pay attention in school.", "Thank you for the flashbacks. I determined I was so bad at coding (and whatever all this shit is) that I became a sysadmin and never looked back. No one cares about the big-O of your BASH script", "Knowing computer science theory will make you a better programmer.", "> Software Engineering/IT\n\nIf you're pointing out that software engineering and computer science are two different things you have to also point out that software engineering and IT are two very different things.", "I'm sure your O(n^2) scripts are a thrill to run.", "\"I don't even know what empty means anymore\" \n\nSO TRUE", "regexp to identify other regexps :)", "At a small enough company soft eng and IT are the same.", "Jim has 5 boxes of apples and needs to sell 3 of them to make a profit, how many generations of inheritance did Jim need to be granted to not care about making a profit at all? Answer: the square root of sven.", "The problem with learning practical knowledge in university is that it dates extremely quickly and is only narrowly applicable. Especially true for programming. You could find that the framework, language, or processes you learned are irrelevant by the time you graduate. In contrast the theory the underpins programming is mostly unchanging and applies at some level to all disciplines of computer programming.\n\nTo me this is why practical knowledge is better learned on the job or in something like a code bootcamp.", "That was certainly true of my computer science degree. Most of the stuff I actually needed to know was the stuff we learned between lectures. The only bit that turned out to be useful was the operating systems module and the low level programming module which I still use today.\n\nI guess there was some interesting background knowledge stuff in there too but honestly, some of the best devs I’ve worked with over the last 20 years haven’t even had degrees. When I hire people, I regard it as completely optional.", "Also a classic:\n\n>What is a DFA? A DFA is a 5-tuple of a set of states Q, a set of symbols Sigma, a transition function delta: Q x Sigma -> Q, an intial state q_0 and a set of accept states F.\n\nThis mathematical definition tells me absolutly nothing of how a DFA actually works, so why start with it. The best way to understand this stuff is to start with a clear example and then formalize that intuition into maths later.", "> Everyone was either thoroughly lost or already knew everything, nothing in between, so nobody really asked questions.\n\nIn the second semester of my CS degree a professor taught us binary gates (AND, OR, NOR, XOR, NAND, ...) for the fifth time", "I usually start with an example and then derive the definition. The key is to note that the transition function is total, which implies (indirectly) that the machine is deterministic. It's about seeing the meaning behind the terms. Note that your definition is incomplete: Q and Sigma need to be finite, because otherwise we could solve more problems than intended for the model. \n\nWe define things formally and precisely so that there is no disagreement on the exact behavior of the thing. This is important in a world of increasing disinformation, in that we make sure (at some level) we know and can agree on what we are discussing.", "\"They asked me how well I understood theoretical computer science. I said I had a theoretical degree in computer science. They said welcome aboard.\" - Fantastic", "Yeah, the mathematical definition is important. It's just that it's not useful to just tell me the tuple before I know how a DFA works.", "He sounds like John malkovich", "At a small enough company, the CEO is also the accountant and the janitor. Doesn’t mean any of those jobs are related.", "Also Coding is different from Software Engineering. So now we have 4.", "I got an introduction to vectors on 4 different occasions.\n\nIntroduction to proofs on 4 different occasions. Here's how you prove a 'for all' statement, here's how you prove a 'there exists' statement, etc.", "After finishing my BS in Comp Sci I knew I would never code professionally. \n\nI am now an IT Infra Engineer. The most \"coding\" I do is powershell. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nThat being said I loved the shit out of the Crypto and Math classes.", "I really liked the Pimp My Ride joke.", "If brute force is not working, you are not using enough of it.", "I have never proved that any of my function actually does what it should do. Function proving lessons were so silly.", "Instructions unclear, regex stuck at email address.", "Personally, I'm of the mind that there are too many people who want to learn how to program so they can make video games, and not enough people who are willing to make video games in order to learn how to program.\n\nSo you've got people who want to make video games who basically just figure programming is a means to an end. But, making video games when you don't like programming is sort of like wanting to write books when you hate writing. It's not really possible.\n\nAnd that isn't even considering that there are so many developers flocking to work at Game Development companies that they are basically get fucked sideways by all of them. Crunch time, long hours, sexual harassment, shitty pay and compensation, All of which they are willing to put up with because making video games is their \"dream job\".\n\nNot that I'm complaining. Since it is the programming I like, that means writing a transaction void routine for a POS software is just as fun as writing the animation code for tetris line clears.", "I’m currently taking Theory of Computation. My professor said they’re too busy to post lectures after week 3. \n\nThis guy has saved my life. Also fuck you Dr Brodhead.", "That's how I started to write documentations. Instead of the big picture sentence first about a topic the reader has no clue, I do an example. A code snippet to copy&paste. Then \"Optional: Full Topic in case you want to know what's underneath (only read if bored)\"", "Malkovich Malkovich, Malkovich?", "It’s actually not that hard to understand tbh…\n\nAn empty bag is… empty. A bag that contains an empty bag is not empty. It’s got a bag inside it.", "Game programming schools did not exist 10 years ago. Also it's not a serious profession, so your parents might not allow you to go to one.", "> get them wondering \"why does X have to Y?\" or \"how to fix problem Z?\",\n\nMaddening stay up all night curiosity is the best teacher...", "Thank you! <3", "A vector is an element of a vector space.", "This one hit waaaay to close to home for me. I went to computer uni. About 80% of the curriculum was mathematics.. PURE mathematics.. the UNFUN theoretical kind.To make it clear just how much mathematics (in a COMPUTER study) we had to go trough, there were people that took this university study at the same time as the pure MATHEMATICS university study. \n\nBecause most of the clases were the same. Not equal. SAME. Same books, same professors and often even same classrooms (as the mathematics uni was conveniently located a few minutes walk from ours).algebra. Yep.. took as all year to finally be able to write a SELECT", "> When I hire people, I regard it as completely optional.\n\nThat's pretty much any company in IT that knows what they're doing. There's a huge issue now with kids getting out of college with a BS or something, while having zero applicable knowledge. They were taught, but just didn't study/put in effort and never actually learned much.\n\nI'm talking extremely basic stuff, like what file permissions are, how to access logs in Windows or even basic cmd prompt/console commands and such, basic things that anyone should know if they have a degree. I've interviewed a decent amount of people with full degrees, but no knowledge.\n\nSo now, most companies that care about quality in their potential hires really just ask relevant questions, ask for details on previous work/experience/projects, and test people a bit. From most of the people hiring or companies I know/work with, BS degrees aren't worth much at all now, especially considering many people prefer those who teach themselves over degrees (Personal preference I think, but I've noticed it more and more).", "Machine Oriented Languages was the name on my Uni. Oh god was that fucker difficult.", "You're right that this is a big point in American culture and it goes far deeper than you may think. As a nation, we've debated for over 100 years now on what exactly should be the point of school. This guy does a better job of explaining the history of education in the US than I do [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopqgLvfv9o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopqgLvfv9o), but his video is an hour long so I'll summarize. \n\nEssentially anything past teaching \"read, writing, and arithmetic\" or so Americans call it \"the three r's\" (stupid name), is hotly debated. Because education is publicly funded, there are many people who don't believe that their children should have to learn things that don't directly impact a future career. Others believe that a generalized education (typical secondary school education we have right now) that creates a well rounded human being is good for society. This presents itself in the \"practical skills vs. knowledge gaining\" debate where some people believe that practical skill courses should be more emphasized than they currently are. A few examples of practical skill courses would be things like, how to do your taxes, how to work in a machine shop, how to cook and run a household (previously pushed onto women), and how to apply for and keep a job. I am not joking when I say that this goes as far as some people saying that Geometry and Algebra should not be a part of mandatory secondary school education, because they do not apply to everyone's jobs. \n\nWe have this problem in the United States because in America we have one form of secondary education which is \"high school.\" There are so many varied paths you can go down during this time of life that a one size fits all solution doesn't make a lot of sense. For example, if you don't plan on going to college, then maybe the math courses you take should focused on practical applications rather than theory. This makes a lot of sense to do, but it's impossible to apply this concept in the US.\n\nWhen I was in Germany, I noticed that they had this system where they would sort kids into hauptschule, realschule, and gymnasium past a certain age, and each school would be focused on different levels of academics vs. practical skills. This sorting into different schools system would work to solve our problem in theory, but America has a really bad problem with wealth inequality that is based upon centuries of systemic racism against African Americans and other minorities. If a system like Germany's existed in the US, it would most certainly be used as a suppression tool to keep minorities from getting higher education. \n\nSo we are stuck with a system where you have to take a one size fits all approach to something as complex as education which is supposed to give you the skills you need to be an effective member of society. Take all of what I just said about high school and apply this directly to college education. We are having this same debate about college education, because college education in America will set you back 50,000 to 100,000 USD. Many students take out loans that they are never able to repay because they started taking courses in something that was just not something they were very good at. This has had some very serious societal consequences for Americans as a lot of young people can no longer afford to buy a house because they are under too much debt from their education. \n\nThese societal consequences have drawn attention from politicians who all have their different ways of solving this issue. The people on the right side of our political spectrum often will say that \"colleges shouldn't be able to give out degrees that don't prepare you for the work force.\" This is where we are at where some people in the US believe (and myself included) that colleges shouldn't be allowed offer a \"video game making\" major. \n\nI believe this because a major like this would be a MASSIVE bait for 18 year olds who love games, but don't know the amount of work that goes into making them and don't understand how competitive the industry is. My belief in this extends to currently existing majors like art, music, and theater (at least in the current system). This is a very unpopular opinion that I hold on reddit which is full of young and idealistic people.\n\nI would be fine with this if colleges in the US were funded like they are in Europe. Making a mistake in choosing a college major in Europe will only cost you a few years. Making a mistake in choosing a major in the US will cost you your entire financial future.", "From what I remember, there are no game programming majors. Maybe one or two courses. The rest of the classes will have to be computer science.", "While I don't disagree, I think the practical knowledge from one framework can be fairly easily transferred to another. \n\nTheoretical knowledge technically supersedes that, but that's assuming you remember any of it, or that you understood it in the first place.\n\nI really don't think I use very much, if any, of the theoretical knowledge in my day to day job. But I suppose then we get to a point where most people really just want to learn to code, while universities primarily want to do research, but employers want you to have a degree, so...", "I’m 4 years into my Software Dev career and I’ve never used anything I learned in my higher level CS classes. My job feels almost exactly like the problem solving in entry level classes. The only time a concept I learned in the last two years of my degree is used is for weird high level interview questions that are related to nothing about the job.", "Alluding or eluding lol", "I really hate this debate because it depends on who you talk to. I find a lot of people fresh out of college have this notion that I.T. = people who fix laptops, maintain user accounts, deal with networks, etc... and software engineering is writing code and making software products. My problem is that there are PLENTY of organizations where software engineering is looped under I.T. umbrella, and it's not unheard of for someone from \"IT\" to actually write a lot of code to maintain infrastructure. Then you get into the question of what exactly devops is. Devops engineers often maintain servers, user accounts, and monitor application health, but they also produce software products that are more geared towards internal productivity and automation. Despite the fact that a lot of them work more on the servers than on software products, you'd be hard pressed to find an organization that doesn't include them under the same umbrella as \"developers\" which also includes the software engineers. So are devops engineers software engineers or are they in IT? What it comes down to is that the separation between software engineering and I.T. is a semantic thing that differs from person to person and organization to organization and everything thinks their way is right. Just like brewing tea.", "I'm not an American either, but while we have very few courses in my country that cater to video game creation, they still include some theoretical subjects like this.\n\nAnd I think the reason is universities are first and foremost places of research, which requires theoretical knowledge. So they teach theoretical knowledge. Issue is that employers want you to have a degree despite the degree having very little to do with what you will actually do in you day to day job. because said degree is more of a proof that you are able to learn. It's incredibly inefficient, albeit mostly functional system.\n\nI personally appreciate the knowledge provided, but I would have rather spend the time in for me more useful way. What I needed was a coding course, not a 5 years at university to get a masters degree. Unfortunately, the job market disagrees.", "The problem with this is that most professors aren't Software Engineers, and no credible SWE would turn down work as an engineer to enter academia.\n\nAlongside this, those that do teach Software Engineering and have industry experience are so out of the game that they're often teaching shit that's barely relevant. The Software Engineering Principles class I took at uni is taught by the same person that hasn't worked in SWE since the early nineties, and still teaches XSLT and the Semantic Web. I'm also pretty sure he doesn't teach source control or any design patterns.", "I thought it was hilarious how you spend a huge chunk of your time in university normalizing databases then as soon as you have a real job you design fully normalized databases and then spend a bunch of time denormalizing them to improve performance.", "I had this with a grad level math class (Wavelets). Went the first day, couldn't understand the professor at all. I was taking 24 credits of hours that semester (making up for my slacking in HS), and noped right out of that. If I recall, I actually dropped the class on my laptop while in the lecture still.", "This is my copulation strategy", "alluding", "This is really just mainly Automata Theory, but yeah, this class was interesting. This is definitely pretty accurate though. I kind of liked the class.", "I feel you.\n\nTook a Basic theoretical biomolecule structural NMR course in my PhD studies. The others were theoretical physicists and we were two biochemists. Both of us gave up.\n\n“The [bra-ket notation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra%E2%80%93ket_notation) simplifies these equations greatly and you can easily see the solution. Here’s a pocket sized collection of the most important equations that you can bring along wherever you go.”", "Whoops, slip of the tongue. I did mean alluding although the student probably thought I was eluding.", "That’s so out of date it’s negligent to teach it.", "Oh god the nightmares, they are back!", "Couldn't agree with you more! And I think you're right, it might be an American societal/culture thing. But then again it might just be people being too lazy to fully investigate and research what they want on all sides.", "WHERE DID YOU FIND THE FOOTAGE OF EVERY STRESS DREAM I HAD WHILE STUDYING COMPSCI!", "May need an edit to your edit. Antonyms are opposites; I think you meant homophones. Sorry couldn't help myself.", "It really goes to illustrate how fast technologies have change even within a very specific domain. What used to be a limitation (memory) that needs to be optimized and led to a whole field of study (normalization techniques) became irrelavant because technology caught up and the limitation has changed (speed of access to different data).", "I'm a lead developer and I have two computer science grads on my team. One of them is kinda useless, the other is good, but exclusively uses knowledge he learned on the job. My conclusion: If you want good developers, hire physics graduates.", "Honestly, universities and industry need to better disambiguate computer science and software engineering. A lot of young folks think they need a degree in computer science to get a job as a software engineer. However, what is taught in the course of a computer science degree—beyond maybe the first year or a few highly specific courses—tends to be more geared towards a future in academia rather than in an industry software engineering position. It doesn't help that industry tends to enforce having a CS degree as minimum threshold despite this.", "Since no body has asked,\nCan you give a eli5 explanation on the differences and similarities between Computer science, Software engineering and IT?", "Great point, I had a colleague that could code an SMTP in a heartbeat but was completely lost navigating the Windows file structure", "It always struck me as odd how some professors could be so awful at teaching. If you give bad service in most professions you are inclined to get flak for it, but somehow professors can be praised for their inability to teach a class and break down learning material to set students on the right track.\n\nA bad intro level class can really make it difficult to progress in later level classes.", "haha did we go to the same university? got taught binary math like 3 times. the stuff in this video i didn't get to until the 2nd semester of my junior year though", "This was very interesting. I live in France and our system is different from Germany, but we see more and more of schools/paths for students. We receive a lot of help from the state. The poverty gap is still here, but takes a different form. Big business schools may be out of reach, and rich parents will teach complex topics from a very young age. We discriminate students by their actual level, but it's always easier when you have private teachers since the age of 5...\n\nHowever, if you are competent, most things are accessible. The more problematic question is, what do we do with students who are obviously competent, but don't have the required skills to succeed is school ? And that's why we have all of these new schools catering to specific topics. If you are not good at academics (like in the video), you take a different path. Less years, more focused on your actual job. You will not have the knowledge or the same amount of careers, but that's usually not a problem. \n\nWe have a strong belief that companies have no right to decide what should be taught to new generations. University is a place of knowledge and academics, for this reason.", "Same", "There's more than one view - of course - but I would say that computer science is the study of computation - of deriving answers by a combination of calculations both mathematical and otherwise formal, for example by algorithms. CS studies the nature and properties of these computations such their effieciency, complexity and robustness. It is often highly formal and relies on mathematics, especially on areas of discrete mathematics (logic, set theory, formal languages and their semantics).\n\nSoftware Engineering is an applied discipline that is concerned with designing and building software systems that are fit for purpose, maintainable, affordable and so on. It involves a high level of understanding of some computer science applications - such as programming theory - and a host of professional and practical knowledge.\n\nInformation Technology is the processing of data and information by electronic means.\n\nSomeone (just who is uncertain, it may have been Dijkstra) said\n\n>Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes.", "Software engineering without understanding the fundamentals is what leads to poor and/or buggy design and implementations.\n\nThat's why you get Windows talking forever to open a folder, etc.", "Looks like someone needs to go tell Blizzard’s game developers to go out and find a serious profession. Maybe they should head back to college and get a degree in journalism so they can find a real job.\n\n/s", "Unfortuntely nbody simulations would take forever to run using bruteforce O(n^(2))", "Yea that describes it well. Either people know it or are lost. Not much in between", "Depending on your company/org, as a sysadmin (I still call myself that, DevOps Engineer doesn't really cover my work) you're also very separated from the coders and DevOps pipelines depending on focus. Often upper management will treat you differently since they rely on you to keep their communications secure (which they treat different than the other employees), you're often given access/levels of trust outside of most tech scope, like the master keys to the office, being the main contact for power, internet, holding the master password/API keys to all the services we utilize, etc. You end up helping the coders with their setup (or sometimes their own code...), but the two of you live in different worlds for most day to day work. Though you nailed it, both groups fall under the same management umbrella. And to someone on the outside, they'd assume we're doing the same kind of work.\n\nAs a side tangent, I still think \"devops\" is a terrible term. Engineers and programmers made far more sense as terminology, wish we could go back to it.", "This is true. Computer science and software engineering should have decent overlap on topics like algorithms or operating systems, but topics like computability/complexity theory, programming languages, etc. could be pushed more towards the CS side, and project based courses aimed to familiarize students with development tools like testing frameworks, CI/CD pipelines, etc. could be pushed more towards the SE side.", "> also pretty sure he doesn't teach source control\n\nDear lord, RCS was made in 1982. That hack has no excuses.", "> Just because a practical application was built on top of math doesn't mean you should teach math first and applications later.\n\nYes, yes it does. That's the basis of teaching.\n\nImagine if chemistry was taught how you propose.", "\n>spend a bunch of time denormalizing them to improve performance.\n\nWTF seriously? Normalization is kicking my ass this semester 😳", "Probably because they're primarily hired into a primarily research position and the teaching comes along for the ride.\n\nIf it's not a research institution, the dept fucked up.", "I distinctly remember my first day of orientation for CS, mostly because we shared our orientation day - about a quarter of us were CS, and the others were \"Games Development\". Most people were talking about what consoles they brought with them, favourite games, if they've made any games themselves, etc.\n\nOur first year was mostly theory, and our courses overlapped heavily in many of these classes. I won't pretend to have been totally comfortable with the shit coming out of the professors mouths, but I remember many of the faces from freshers week and orientation just staring like a deer in headlights as we went through Discrete Maths and State Machines. I also remember a basic Introduction to kicking so many asses the second we got to pointers and memory allocation. C By the first week, a good chunk of Games Dev had switched to non-IT courses. By Christmas, half of the initial cohort were gone. I remember talking about this with a TA and he said \"oh yeah, it's like this every year, their dropout rate is higher than any course we've got and barely a quarter graduate\".\n\nThose that graduated knew, at least roughly, what they were getting themselves into. Many of those that were gone in the first year seemed to genuinely think that making games was like using something like RPG Maker, or that they'd be learning basic shit while making fun games.", "> If your goal is to make a video game, none of this is useful. But can you blame computer science teachers for teaching you... computer science ? This isn't a crash course for web or game dev, for databases.\n\nIt's not massively useful, but it's not useless. Software is complex, having a good understanding of the underpinnings of theory and what's actually going on at low levels gives you a better knowledge base to work off.\n\nThis specific example usually doesn't apply to game devs, but like with web devs, often self-taught devs or those who didn't get a comp sci degree will know little to nothing about how garbage collection actually works. They just know (or maybe don't even know) that memory is garbage collected and not anything they have to worry about. Except not having a good understanding of how garbage collection works, some of the algorithms used there, etc, they're missing out on knowledge which helps understand why something is happening if they run into GC problems at some point. Every web dev working on anything significant in JavaScript will run into GC problems at some point, they just might not recognize it because they don't know anything about GC beyond the name.", "But complexity theory IS very important. That's what leads to bad programmers doing a for loop nested 3 times and leading to O(N^3) algorithms.", "You're not wrong about what they ask but from the experience of my acquaintances without CS degrees, it's rare for them to even get the interview in the first place. The degree in my experience is a basic requirement to get interviewed for those entry to mid level jobs, despite how much their knowledge is actually applicable", "Your comment kinda reminds me of when I was at public school and a bad math teacher would make me fail at fractions, then next year someone would say one or two perfect sentences and it would just make so much sense that I couldn't understand why it didn't make sense before.", "Mathematics grad students be like “oh you sweet, summer child.”", "Just note that I'm not about to draft up a whole curriculum right here, so if you want to continue this discussion, my answers will be far from perfect. However, to your specific point, some complexity theory is indeed important, and can be covered in a lower level algorithms course—which I already mention should be an overlap—such as a course that goes over sorting and graph traversal. Common complexity theory topics not necessary to your average software engineer are things like the formal models of computation (as mentioned in the video), proving NP-completeness, cryptographic protocols (by this I mean in an information-theoretic sense, as a software engineer should definitely be familiar with security), etc.", "> “The bra-ket notation notation simplifies these equations greatly and you can easily see the solution. Here’s a pocket sized collection of the most important equations that you can bring along wherever you go.”\n\nDude this is simple stuff, they even can you all the equations! \n\n\n^^^^^^^/s ^^^^^^^obiovusly.", "Right, but there's a balance. If you want to work on stuff like AI/ML or coding entire OS's then yea you need higher level knowledge. That's not always the case though. \n\nAlso, it's not like people working on these topics are the ones fresh out of a 2-week boot-camp or something. \n\nThere should be some overlap, but there should be another route to allow people to specialize in what they're interested in.", "Could you please elaborate on this? Noob aspiring \"SWE/Coder\" here.", "OMG, this professor sounds like Jordan Peterson trying to explain the existence of god.\n\nI just want to play video games.", "Aw, they didn't even talk about grammars! LL(1) 4 Life", "Universities often hire scientists to do science that the university can take credit for (which is fine; they fund it). But they also make those scientists teach a class or two, which they might be good at... or they might be terrible at and/or completely resent. \n \nMy uncle was at NASA and then worked at a prestigious university where he also taught. He is terrible at explaining things. He just talks at you, with zero concern for how you're following along. He's also one of those people who thinks that, since they're a god-tier expert in one thing, that they're an expert at everything, so he spends a lot of our conversations explaining things about the area of science that I work in. \n \nI love the guy and I can barely handle it. I have oceans of sympathy for his former students.", "OP is struggling with this grammar loop, amirite?", "Here's a famous case of a video game that suffered from bad computer science.\n\n Original online mode load time: ~6m flat\n Time with only duplication check patch: 4m 30s\n Time with only JSON parser patch: 2m 50s\n Time with both issues patched: 1m 50s \n\nhttps://nee.lv/2021/02/28/How-I-cut-GTA-Online-loading-times-by-70/", "So funny watching this. I never wanted to do programming in college for this exact reason. Later went to a bootcamp and learned how to make web apps. Learned none of this. Now I make tools for self driving cars and I still don’t need to know any of this.\n\nI really wish college focused a little more on useful skills.", "It’s important to teach good design, but if no one knows what a database is, how are they going to absorb the design concepts?\n\nYou can’t teach how to make a good hamburger if someone has never tasted a hamburger. It will be entirely abstract and they can’t connect the theory to anything.", "I never said bad fundamentals didn't haven't caused issues. I said there should be a delineation of different branches. Some require knowledge of more advanced CompSci while others don't.\n\nAm I wrong to think that?", "I don't get it, if you don't want to study computer science just don't enroll in a computer science course...\n\nThere's plenty of tools you can use to make games without much prior knowledge.", ">We have a strong belief that companies have no right to decide what should be taught to new generations. University is a place of knowledge and academics, for this reason.\n\nI think this is where we differ. A lot of Americans view school as a place to pick up relevant skills for use in a job later on in life. This is because Americans are more individualistic and selfish when it comes to taxation. A lot of people hold the belief that if their tax money is going to be spent on educating someone, then it must have a positive effect that also directly impacts the tax payer. In other words, \"if I'm paying for your school, you better be using that education to go get a job and contribute to the tax base.\" Schools as an institution purely for the sake of knowledge is actually a controversial topic here, because a lot of people don't agree that knowledge without potential practical uses should be funded by the government. It's kind of stupid, and most people don't believe this way, but we have a sizable portion of the population that do.\n\nAs a point to the inequality that we experience in the United States, the problem is that for so long minorities were, in some places, by law not allowed to attend the better schools even if they were competent. This system has disappeared ever since the 1960s civil rights movement, but the effect of this is still seen today because wealth builds through generations. So even discriminating by \"subject competency\" here often looks like we're discriminating by race because kids who have more educated parents are going to have more subject competency. Most of the time the more educated parents here are the ones with European ancestry, who were not the target of education discrimination in the past, or are Asian immigrants that arrived after the 1960s abolished education discrimination by law.", "OK BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT BASIS VECTORS MAKE 'EM?!", "Oh yeah, since Java added streams and functionally-related operations, I’ve seen many programmers build incredibly poor looping code, a `forEach` inside a `map` inside a `forEach`. They’re happy with it because they didn’t explicitly write a nested for-loop.", "As in mathematical proofs or unit tests?", ">\tThere should be some overlap, but there should be another route to allow people to specialize in what they're interested in.\n\nThat’s self-study. Anyone can pick the courses they need off MIT OpenCourseware, and study exactly what they need to perform their specific job function. I’m not sure why everyone wants to amend a whole academic curriculum (often making it much worse) for an industry that changes their mind every month and to appease an apathetic student.", "I'm not saying to amend the curriculum of the current CS major(s) I'm saying to add more options. Allow things to be a bit more modular for the degree.", "I’d agree to a point. Did a CS degree back in 1997. At the time I just enjoyed the practical. But guess what 20 years later no-one uses Delphi to code. I use DFAs (deterministic finite state automata), data structures and complexity O(n) almost every day.", "Coding: you have some requirements, and you literally have to write code to implement all those requirements. You’ll incorporate tests, study different algorithms, data structures, etc. but you’re mostly putting pen to paper.\n\nSoftware Engineering concerns more about the construction and maintenance of an application built by code: architecture design (i.e. how many users does my application need to support, what happens if my application stops at 2 A.M, etc.), how to keep the codebase maintainable, how do my interfaces appear to a user, what databases are appropriate for my application, etc. \n\nIn a real job, I’d say software engineering is 70-80% day-to-day work, but some are lucky to stay within coding and not worry about the engineering aspect.", "My school had two different degrees, C.S. and S.Eng.", "I see, but aren’t those paths already available? Self-study, university certificates, bootcamps, etc. It’d feel incredibly weird saying you have a CS-degree if your study was made up of elective-like courses.", "In every science there are definitely certain bodies of knowledge that are too theoretical for any practical use. The thing about computer technology is that it advances so fast that I genuinely can't think of part of it that would never be useful. Most of AI and Machine Learning fundamentals were writted in the 1970s, and soon enough they became reality. Computer science, out of all sciences, is the best at bringing its theory into practice.\n\nIf you just wanna code, take an online course, or go to a coding bootcamp. Middle school and high school kids teach themselves to code all the time. Learning fundamentals goes beyond typing code. If that's all you can do, then you'll write bad code, and whenever your tech stack falls out of fashion, you start learning to code all over again.\n\nA computer science degree is also about much more than that. It's not just to produce a software engineering employee. It's to pass on a science, a field of thought, a body of knowledge, to educate future researchers too. It's its own endeavor.", "Wasn't my experience at all when I got my CS degree. The difference between CS and SE was maybe 4 or 5 courses. Everything else was basically the same. CS does get a bit more theoretical, but the difference is minute in the grand scheme of the course load.\n\nCould vary wildly from university to university, though.", "I think my class that I learned the most was the year long System Analysis and Design. It was basically working on a software project as a group from start to finish. Start meaning there was a client and we needed to get all the specs features etc from the client. Write up the spec and get it approved from the client etc. The teacher was the client and modeled it after getting a contract with the US Government. Very little programming but a lot of learning how to deal with timelines, milestones, working with clients and creating design documents, writing the program and creating the tests for the code for QA etc.", "regex is really useful", "He is half right. You still want to normalize at first as its so much easier to denormalize them to increase performance if things are structured correctly.", "Yeah, highly depends on the resume, and what you're bringing to the table. My recommendation is that everyone should have at least something in leu of a degree. A personal pet project they've been documenting, client projects they've done via freelance, research groups/projects they've contributed to, whether in-person or online, etc. \n\nSeems weird, but I always refer to artists, and how they have portfolios. Gotta have documentation showing your work, what you're capable of, and how you've learned/improved over time. \n\nAll in all, that's pretty basic advice stuff, and highly depends on the job they're applying for, who they are/what they know/their skills and such, just a lot of factors. Obviously I'm not saying all degrees are useless, and/or ignored by jobs, nor that not having a degree will get you a job.\n\nJust honestly, at the end of the day that degree really helps you get your first job. After that, it's a LOT easier to move about, provided you do well and impress. BUT, you don't need a degree to get your first job, and your first job will have other requirements other than a degree most likely anyway.\n\nAll in all, in my experience, if someone needs the structure of school, or hands-on-ness of it, nothing wrong with that. However, if someone is capable of motivating themselves and learning without direct schooling, it's worth not going sometimes.", "You were actually taught regex at university?? I was probably just taught about formal language theory, like the Chomsky hierarchy, rather than anything particularly useful for real jobs.", "Glad I stuck to YouTube tutorials when learning how to make video games :D", "I’m one of the “good engineers” (quotes because I’m saying it myself) and work with others where none have cs degrees. Every one of us wish we did though. We had to learn so much the hard way and we all agree we would be in such better places if we did come with a proper formal grounding. If anyones getting the notion that not doing a degree is somehow better, you shouldn’t. If you’re intent on becoming a developer do a CS degree. \n\nThe reason you see people who are good at coding be anti correlated with CS is two fold: most CS graduates (like most people) suck at coding, and the degree does jack shit to change that (there’s even a study on this). But you can still get a job just coz you have a degree. You can’t do that if you don’t have a degree so you actually need to be competent to survive. \n\nAnother reason is if you’re really good at coding and you’re also from a CS background you’d be L4+ in a FAANG and be surrounded only by similar people. Not a regular tech company with mediocre salaries (which is sub 300k in HCOL nowadays).", "Regex that detects other regexes.... Wrote a utility function for that\n\nbool isRegex(const string& in) {\n return true;\n}", "If someone in that company asked themselves: \"wait, why the hell is this game loading so slow\" and looked into it, they would have found and fixed the causes. This person could have been a junior (at least for the JSON patch which I'm familiar with the details). \n \nNot saying good comp sci. understanding on the dev team isnt needed but the GTA:O issues lie elsewhere. A PM should have raised issues with loading times. Adequete time should have been allotted for finding a fix. Considering the problem (again, can only comment on the JSON thing), I find it hard to believe the coders are the only cause here.", "Thought this was Steve from Sex and the City for a moment.", "I think coding bootcamps have already filled this need, though.", "What an immature professor. I hated instructors like this", ">Imagine if chemistry was taught how you propose.\n\nIt is, usually you are taught the application in grade school and theory in highshcool.", "> no game programming majors.\n\n[RPI](https://news.rpi.edu/content/2018/06/26/rensselaer-game-design-program-among-top-10-nationwide) has one", "In anything Computer you could spend years learning fundamentals that will barely help you in the real world. You could go all the way back to electro dynamics. But is that really better than to learn how to actually build software?", "Those methods are definitely available (going through them now), but I'm specifically talking about formal education. \n\nSomething like a degree in CS Machine learning/AI vs CS Computer Architecture vs CS Full Stack Engineering. These are just examples, and it's completely possible I simply don't know enough about the field though lol.", "Interesting, thank you for the clarification!", "regex isn't regular :/", "Business considerations will lead to poor and/or buggy design and implementations a thousand times more often than lack of fundamentals.", "> A computer science degree is also about much more than that. It's not just to produce a software engineering employee. It's to pass on a science, a field of thought, a body of knowledge, to educate future researchers too. It's its own endeavor.\n\nFirst, thank you for your insight about the field, it's greatly appreciated. \n\nThis part here that I quoted is, I think, what I was mostly referring to. Some people just want to be software engineers and not computer scientists but many institutions don't offer that and so the default seems to be \"get a CS degree.\" \n\nIn another comment I posted I mentioned something to the effect of \"CS ML/AI, CS Computer Architecture, CS Software Engineering, etc.\" But it is possible I simply don't know enough about the field to really understand why this type of thinking is flawed. I'm still learning as much as I can.", "You can tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. But that's not what we are discussing here. The discussion here is where a programmer needs to know the fundamentals to write less buggy code. And the answer to that is pretty clear.", "Agree. If you're gonna have a decades-long career writing software, it makes sense to have spent a few months learning the stuff in the video.", "It actually makes me feel worse, cuz I wish more attention was paid to fundamentals, but it is not the reality we live in and snarky remarks will sadly not change that.", "As much as I agree with this, the most important things I learned were already in Data Structures and Systems Programming, and iirc I had a full course on Automata that was fantastic. Algorithms as a class was almost useless.\n\nLike no shit, nesting for loops and revisiting the same data over and over to compute the same things bad. Building a deep theoretical understanding of that isn't all that necessary for most of us. Being exposed to the concepts, including basic pitfalls and some potential alternatives (like storing the stuff you keep recalculating in a single first pass instead) like my lower level classes did, was much better and more useful than going too deep into the proofs and maths. The only thing I got out of my algorithms course that seemed helpful was amortized cost stuff and how you can use it to avoid high startup latency and vice versa, but even that had been alluded to in previous courses.\n\nEverything else I learned that was insanely helpful was just... doing projects in my Software Engineering course (but honestly just read GoF and get familiar with making class diagrams and whatnot), and working on personal projects. Compilers was fun but I'm not going to use basically any of it.\n\nAnd from what I could tell from a couple peers who took a databases course, they learned fuck-all anything that was practical. It was waaaaay too low-level, like implementation details on an entry level course on the subject. That's a course that NEEDS to be taught top-down starting with creating tables in SQL or even in a GUI and learning how to implement one-to-one, one-to-many, and (via an additional table) many-to-many relationships. The fact that I, who had implemented a single inventory database before in an ORM+Postgres (plus upgrade scripts) in highschool, understood all of this basic shit and could clearly draw on paper the relationships between database fields and other tables... It just makes me wish that class was taught waaaay differently and I didn't even attend it. I shouldn't have been the one creating the database in the software engineering project, but somehow I was the only one who knew how to implement anything. That course screwed them hardcore.", "Sorry I had just been thinking of the usual universities, like UC Berkeley, UCLA, State schools, etc. If there is game dev majors its gotta be pretty recent.", "highly suggest this channel if you're studying CS. helped me pass a few exams", "Oh is this your video? This was actually hilarious! Great stuff.", "Yo this guy has been teaching me computation theory. He’s an absolutely amazing teacher. Cool to see his vids shared elsewhere and if you need help in your theory courses I highly recommend him.", "Thanks <3", "Dynamic programming's name came about BECAUSE non-CS people only care about names of things.", "Thanks <3", "This issue (optimizations) has little to do with 'computer science'. It's trivial to hook up a profiler and see what methods are costing the most amount of time and make optimizations to them.\n\nNothing they teach you in computer science would make you uniquely qualified to do this, hell as an amateur I was learning to do optimizations with a profiler. The problem in this case was the business didn't give a shit to do that.", "From my own professional software engineering experience no, a computer science student knowing the 'fundamentals' doesn't mean shit compared to actual experience developing software even when self-taught.\n\nFrankly the experienced self-taught coders do better because they've learned how to research new topics and consequences/considerations completely on their own and continually self-improve by doing so.", "Do you honestly bother to remember regex syntax? \n\nOr do you just go to https://regexr.com/ or https://regex101.com/ when you need to write a new one like everyone else?", "In his defense he probably doesn't need that to make video games, not in his defense he should know that colleges torture you with things you won't use like some sort of psychological endurance test, like when the f have I ever used organic chemistry formulas here in veterinary medicine? Never it just felt like some hazing ritual.", "There's so many different ways an organization can put together teams and authority structures as well it's simply amazing.\n\nThe way coding, design, support, monitoring, ci/cd pipelines, and code quality can be delegated to roles that are either specific or general makes the number of different combinations simply mind boggling.\n\nI've seen coders in charge of tier 1 on-call production support monitoring, and I've seen it where the architects/software designers literally have no insight into code quality.", "Free engines ARE magic, tons of trds making kickass games.", "I used to feel this way. \n\nI'm 45 and have been coding since I was 15. I used to feel this was just getting in the way of me starting to code and just learning by coding.\n\nThe problem is that while that's somewhat true, most of the time you're doing work but not being productive.\n\nIt's better to actually understand these things so you know what to invent and what NOT to invent.\n\nAdditionally, learning to think in terms of theory like sets of sets and so forth, really helps you work into other areas of compsci and realize what you can and can not do and what you SHOULD NEVER do. \n\nI see a lot of this with the younger engineers I work with what I'll see a proposed solution and I'm like, nope, absolutely not going to do that. I'll explain to them why their solution is dangerous and a bad idea and they just don't seem to understand why.", "> But, making video games when you don't like programming is sort of like wanting to write books when you hate writing. It's not really possible.\n\nToby Fox managed somehow. Same with the Stardew guy IIRC.", "2010ish", "I think the point that is being made is that problems as bad as this shouldn't exist in the first place. \n\nHaving a PM identify it as an issue, allocated fix time etc are all secondary checks against a problem that probably shouldn't have existed at all. If an external dev is able to identify the 2 main problem areas and propose fixes for them without even seeing the source, then clearly some devs aren't doing things right in the first place.", "This sounds nice & true to a CS college student but is mostly wrong in practice\n\nThe reality is most crappy projects are the result of crappy project management, not buggy design by people who didn't understand comp sci fundamentals\n\nAnd well-designed projects are usually designed by people with lots of experience designing projects (lots of work experience), not people with really strong CS fundamentals (though the Venn Diagram I'm sure is largely overlapping)", "Have you read the underlying issue? He didn't optimize anything. The original code has an issue because of complexity analysis. Might as well be straight out of a textbook.\n\nThe JSON parser was parsing in O(n2) instead of O(n).", ">Those that graduated knew, at least roughly, what they were getting themselves into. Many of those that were gone in the first year seemed to genuinely think that making games was like using something like RPG Maker, or that they'd be learning basic shit while making fun games.\n\nThis is the same for Mechanical Engineering in higher ed, as well.", "Yes I read it when it originally came out months ago, and I'm not sure how you think this isn't optimization? What distinction are you trying to draw here? \n\nYou can fit anything into a complexity model but look he just hooked up a profiler and saw what was slow. You don't need to learn anything about complexity from a textbook to do this.", "But this stuff is important for the fun jobs. If you just want to code monkey around and write front end or full stack then sure you don't need this bit if you're Into compiler development or language design then it's important.\n\nI've got a languages and machines book that goes into all of this and I've recommended it several times to people who want to know more about the underlying aspects of computing.", "Yeah I had a lot of fun in this course. Went on after it to designing toy languages and then compiler development and optimization.", "I mean that really depends on what work you do. I regularly use C at work so all of the courses that I took covering C still apply and I don't really see it going away for a while.", "I don't think the shitty pay is really a thing anymore especially if you go to a big tech company.", "Because optimization means running algorithms more efficiently. Changing a bad algorithm isn't an optimization. It's a rewrite.\n\nThe problem here was directly because of complexity. It's not you can fit anything. The whole reason it was slow is because it's too complex in a sneaky way. Knowing what kind of algorithms can solve a problem and what kind of complexity to expect is exactly what computer science juniors learn.\n\nI don't know what else to tell you. I would teach this problem in algorithms class because it's a direct application of the concepts. How can parsing a 10 megabyte JSON add 5 minutes to loading time? If you don't apply what you learn here.", "Damnit, now I will be focusing on figuring out how to write a regexp to match a regexp.", "I one time wrote a custom compiler at a job. That got me a lot of respect.", "I mean it's absolutely silly that you would even call this not an optimization considering optimization is just a general term for making changes to improve performance.\n\nAnd like I said an algorithms class isn't required in any way to do this kind of optimizing. I was doing it within a few months of coding with a profiler just as the person in the article did. \n\nIn terms of optimizing real world applications, complexity analysis literally doesn't do anything. In every real world programming scenario I've been in the motto is and always should be \"the profiler is king\".\n\nAnd people who try to pre-optimize before looking at the profiler tend to end up writing shitty unreadable code. In my experience this is the difference between practical and theoretical knowledge. The coder with practical knowledge will know that only 10% of the application will take 90% of the time and find out where best to apply optimizations and otherwise prefer readability and maintainability.", "I refuse to write loops that arent at least O(n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n^n ). Sigma Mindset.", "Wait is that not a thing elsewhere? I knew a bunch of gsas majors in my cs courses but now that I think about it I've never met or heard of one that wasn't from RPI.", "Below is a link to another Game Development Degrees. It is part of the University of Colorado network which is a large state school. So while this school itself is not widely known I would put it into the category of typical university. It does share some courses with CS, but it seems to have tailored most of their core programming courses towards game design. It also seems to hybrid into the business side of things as well. \n\nDownside is they label it a Bachelor of Innovation degree, which from my understanding is something they made up to try and make a degree that was more cross disciplined. But from what I have heard is some employers are confused by it and sometimes students have difficulty selling it, but I think that is only if they are going for typical software jobs.\n\n[https://innovation.uccs.edu/coeas/game-design-development](https://innovation.uccs.edu/coeas/game-design-development)", "I would not personally consider compiler development a “fun job” (it sounds like absolute hell), but to each their own.", "Many universities offer those degrees and I recommend against them. As an undergrad you're already committed to computer science. Further specialization only restricts your options.\n\nI think you're also underestimating how important those fundamentals are and how commonly they come up. Something as simple and common as an algorithm to schedule deliveries is actually a pure computer science problem.\n\nI personally know a wholesale startup that hired a CS PhD just for that specific algorithm.\n\nYou don't go far gluing together frameworks and services without knowing how they really work. Financial analysts with a little bit of code knowledge blow up databases regularly because of badly crafted queries that would require CS fundamentals to learn.\n\nYou wouldn't think knowing what Turing complete really means matters, until it turns out it's critical to system security, and it's too late because your api is executing arbitrary code.\n\nIn the end anyone can learn anything anywhere. Stressing the importance of individual places where you need CS doesn't convey its actual importance. A CS grad will know what they don't know. While someone with just some coding knowledge won't know what they don't know. Dipping your toes into the field at breadth is invaluable. After all, not many people are coding the same way they did 10 years ago, and not many of us will 10 years from now. The first part of a computer science degree that expires is every practical thing they taught you. What stays is a deeper understanding.", "Sure I admit my definition of optimization might be narrow here. But general optimization can go from upgrading hardware to switching frameworks to reducing cache misses\n\nLet's see what other programmers think: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26296339\n\n> I don’t think the lesson here is “be careful when parsing json” so much as it’s “stop writing quadratic code.”\n\n> Algorithms & Data structures matter, often I see devs talking about how it doesn't matter much but the difference between using a hashmap vs array is evident.\n\n> The code looks linear at a glance and the culprit is that sscanf is actually O(N) on the length of the string.\n\n> Yep, O(n^2) has the problem that no matter how fast you upgrade your hardware it would still lag.", "Yes I use tools. But knowing that regex is a thing and knowledge when to use it and how to use it and interpret the tools. That's useful. But of course you don't need 4 semesters of theoretical informatics for that :_)", "It's useful to learn it for a day or two and understand how it fits into the greater scheme of things that we know", "dude you just don't understand how to do modern education. the trick is to go into enormous debt listening to people talk like that for hours in class, then go home to look up 1 youtube video that explains it perfectly in 5mins.", "It’s fairly common for beginner devs to jump straight to optimising. You’re assuming that the person you’re responding too doesn’t understand first year comp sci algorithmic complexity. That’s not the case. They’re trying to drop some wisdom on you but you’re not listening.", "Normalization goes a long way to helping design a well thought out database that is capturing the data you need too. Nothing worse than having to refactor* a database that's been capturing data for years already but is designed terribly.", "I was a chemistry undergrad for three years before dropping out (started working in a lab, saw what Russian science was really like and noped out of that intrigue-heavy extrovert hell).\n\nThat's why I mentioned good chemistry/physics teachers as an example of people who teach the way I suggest: I saw them do it that way.\n\nMaybe good biology or social science teachers do it that way, too, but I didn't have first-hand experience with that.\n\n(Not sure what word Anglophone academia uses for people who teach in universities, by the way, so I'm defaulting to a general 'teacher'.)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nTo generalize, we had three kinds of teachers:\n\n1. Those who start with practical examples to get students into the same context as themselves, (optional: get students' attention with a few tricky practical questions), and then move to theoretical explanations\n2. The sort that did theory first, then illustrated it practically\n3. The sort that taught chemistry like computer science classes: all theory, zero practical examples.\n\nThe first kind were the only ones that got more than a small fraction of the students to truly understand what they were talking about.\n\nThe second and third kind were only useful if you ALREADY had some practical experience onto which to project the theory.\n\nThat's why, from a teacher's standpoint, it seems like the majority of undergrads are dumbasses: because they don't have the experience necessary to understand stuff that seems self-evident to you.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThat applied to all subjects, as far as I could notice.\n\nIn physics, for instance, the lecturer was fond of second approach. She was good at it. But she taught theory first, so you had to struggle and try to apply what she was talking about to your own experiences in order to understand it.\n\nThe woman running seminars for my sub-group was the first kind: practical and question-oriented to the point that made every lesson with her a brutal revelation of how little we actually knew about the stuff we supposedly have already learned.\n\nI learned a good bit from the lectures on physics, but a lot more from seminars.", "I'm not assuming they don't understand it. I'm saying it's the main issue which they disagree with.\n\nWriting O(n) to parse JSON is not what's meant by premature optimization. It's what you should do the first time. It's the obvious solution.\n\nComplexity analysis is exactly what's needed here because either the parsing operation is very slow or there's an inner loop. It's explicitly mentioned in the write up and the HN discussion.", "The problem is this either did not come up in QA or the devs did not give a shit.", "It's more like \"Oh hey, you have 3 days to get this feature in before the next release gets published then we need to pivot onto another feature for team Z which is much higher priority. Any tech debt we can create a Jira to tidy it up later\". Queue that issue disappearing into the backlog ether never to be addressed again.\n\nDevelopers generally want to do the right thing and build good software, but the business constraints don't always allow that.", "Exactly. The first time I didn't even know what regex was when I stumbled on it trying to solve a specific problem that I had. \n \nI included the library, read what regex was about, found an online tool to generate me the exrepssion that I wanted...and I implemented it. It was a good solution and it was fast. \n \nI have no idea why anyone would want to actually spend time 'learning' regex. Just know that it exists and use online tools to make you the expression that you need.", ">It's like these motherfuckers don't want people to actually learn new stuff. \n \nThey really just want to impress other people by being overly verbose and to pretend like the subject is more complex than what it actually is.", ">Also it's not a serious profession \n \n:D", "Interesting. I understand your point of view and it makes sense the way you've laid it out. Are you of the opinion, given what you've said, that a formal education in comp sci is necessary I'm order to become a good coder? Do you think a self taught person can be as competent as someone with a CS degree?", "But in other disciplines academia does attract well qualified engineers - mechanical, ee, chemeng, etc. And I know well qualified, knowledgeable SWEs who teach in universities. I don't deny that the issues you raise are relevant - I have seen people teaching undergraduate SE who have never had a job outside a university. But I don't believe it's the whole story. If I were looking to get an engineering discipline degree, I would only consider a course that gave a professional accreditation.", "I think the market is large enough to sustain a large population of software engineers who only do cookie cutter web and mobile apps. They create real value and some earn great money.\n\nBut for a self taught programmer or boot camp grad to be as good as a CS graduate or better would need an exceptional person. Probably the type of person who would've crushed a CS degree.\n\nIn my experience they have very surface level knowledge that crumbles if they're moved outside what they know.\n\nIn the end tech companies will interview almost anyone with a programming background and a reference. But the interview itself will be just algorithms, data structures, and systems. It's the best signal they found for a good developer.", "So what do you say of self taught coders that make it to FAANGMULA jobs or other high level positions? Or ones that have created large and successful applications or games? Simply outliers?", "It's hell :(", "I kind of liked it, it vastly simplified a task I had to support with extremely arduously written business logic files. I wrote out how I could write just the required info and my compiler would generate the actual file.", "> I think the market is large enough to sustain a large population of software engineers who only do cookie cutter web and mobile apps\n\nEven inside FAANG", "Ok then. \n\nI guess I'm going to have to settle for being a cookie-cutter coder haha. As long as I enjoy the stuff I'm building I'm good with that lol.", "My point has nothing to do with faculty keeping up with industry standards. It's that industry standards change fast and its not worth spending 4 years studying them. Once out of school they will change many times throughout your career.", "Obviously the aerospace industry moves slower than software but you've illustrated my point well. Imagine spending 4-6 years learning to fly specifically 747s then today learning that the 747 is being retired around the world.", "Not exactly shit - I have had cause to use abstract mathematical and CS concepts occasionally throughout my professional career, but these have been few and far between. In each case these have resulted in a more elegant solution and good code, but too often the goal is not \"elegant\" but \"working\" - the times I've had to solve something by provisioning more/faster \"hardware\" rather than improving the code are far more numerous. Because clicking a few buttons to get more ram or CPU time is vastly easier and faster than spending the engineering effort to improve the existing solution.", "Why would anyone want to learn something fairly simple, when you can blindly copy and paste some potentially junk answer off stackoverflow?\n\nThat’s not the mindset of a high value engineer…", ">when you can blindly copy \n \nThe secret is not to copy blindly. \n \nSimply find what you need, understand what it is and then implement it.", "How can you understand what a regex is, without learning regex? You either understand it or you don’t.\n\nA mentality like that is why [this page](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22937618/reference-what-does-this-regex-mean) exists.\n\n> regex is suffering from give me ze code type of questions and poor answers with no explanation", "\"Learning regex\" in this context means you have learned the syntax/expressions and you could write the patterns (like \\^(?=.[a-z])(?=.[A-Z])(?=.\\d).{6,12}$) out of memory.", "That’s pretty easy to write, if you actually understand regex. You don't need to \"memorise that specific regex\", you memorise the syntax* for regex -- and then can simultaneously understand and construct patterns yourself.\n\nAlso, since that’s clearly a regex for password validation, note that actually using this would be falling down the EXACT trap I was describing: of blindly copy and pasting a bad solution. Why should a password have a MAXIMUM LENGTH of 12?!", "That's an interesting and read. 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https://youtu.be/LiT69WoJ6J8	/r/videos/comments/qyt8hl/how_to_pronounce_cock_in_british_english/	[ "Wangka", "Incredible.", "u/savevideo", "The reaction I got from my wife in the other room after playing this through the bluetooth speakers was fucking amazing. I asked her if the subliminal messages were coming through yet.", "Ascended", "Damn, I’ve been saying it wrong this whole time.", "It's saying it the second time that really seals it.", "TIL", "This man has given up on life", "Finally, I can now refer to roosters properly", "u/savevideobot", "I'm in tears right now. I never thought I'd learn how to say this word correctly. Today my lifelong dream came true. \n\nGod bless you OP.", "The little bored sniff.", "I am hating the age restriction thing on Youtube almost every day now.", "Definitely saving this for a future online debate...", "What are you referring to? What age restriction?", "If you're on desktop, there's an [addon](https://github.com/zerodytrash/Simple-YouTube-Age-Restriction-Bypass#installation) you can install that runs a script that gets rid of the age restriction.", "like when I clicked on your link, it says 'This video is age-restricted and only available on YouTube. Learn more\nWatch on YouTube'. When I go there, it then takes me to a page where it wants my credit card and stuff to prove I'm over 18.", "I did try one for firefox but it did nothing. But I am looking into your suggestion.\n\n\nEdit: It worked!! Thank you very much.", "Didn’t seem so hard", "I find [this lesson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PfC1TEqS2Y) more helpful", "r/unexpected" ]	22	videos	How to pronounce COCK in British English
https://youtu.be/pevyn9Jb_4g	/r/videos/comments/qytqdw/man_stops_a_car_with_his_own_car_to_save_a_driver/	[ "Yes, save a life!!", "What a great dude. Even made the other guy call the emergency services right away.", "\"Sorry we can't cover the damage since you did it intentionally.\" ~ Insurance Company /S", "Don't worry. He'll get a crowdfunding if that happens for sure. Deserves compensation and in my opinion even more. Hero", "Insurance be like, 'nah'.", "You say /s but I guarantee that will be the insurance’s response.", "There was a similar incident in 2017 in germany and the insurance payed, so... what do you bet? ;-)\n\nedit: or tesla did, not 100% sure; but every news article cites insurance expers who say the insuracne would have payed", "In most European countries, the person who rear-ends the vehicle is \"at fault\". And since the car behind obviously hits the car in front, the latter's insurance has to pay.\r \n\r \nNow the insurance company can try to argue that the other car was \"forcing\" the accident, but then it goes to court and there they will quickly find out that there would have been much greater damage if the other driver had not used his car as a \"brake block\".", "Liability insurance might not of paid. Full coverage will pay. \n\nI deal with homeowners insurance. Can tell you how many times I've been to a house because the tub of sink over flowed from turning it on and walking away. They still pay. I've not had many issues getting insurance company's to pay for damages unless there is \"long term damages\" such as rot or large amounts of mold/fungal growth.", "Shame that the insurance post is top rather than focus on the brilliant actions of the driver to stop the car without thought for himself.", "Seen a video like this a while back, the guy driving in the grass was having a stroke", "This is europe. He'll get compensated. First of all he got rearended. Normally the insurence of the offender will pay out. Also he did it to prevent more damage. The insurance of the offender will gladly pay. If the insurance will pay for the car of the ill person? I don't know about that", "We feed on negativity.", "Rental with full insurance.", "Seriously, his best hope is that his insurance company doesn’t pay. Imagine the donations he’d get with a story like that. Next vehicle would be a Lambo.", "Same in this video; the driver had a medical issue and seems to have passed out. The car who let himself be rear ended quite literally saved a life that day.", "Why would the insurance of the ill person not pay? This is the exact reason why we do have insurance right? A situation in which there is damage that we did not provoke by being strongly careless.", "I literally hate videos with bs background music like this trying to show you how to feel", "Fuck sarcasm tags", "Someone has never left America…", "I think if you're saving someone from potentially getting smashed on a highway the insurance would be the last thing on your mind.", "You'd hope, but many people aren't like that.", "He could have been on the phone asking for help but following, he probably didn’t want to cause an accident if not confident in driving ability to stop it - was brave ans skilful", "The woman driving was unconscious, broke 5 ribs in the accident and is still in the hospital. Her family reached out to the guy to thank him for saving het life.", "had a stroke", "It's probably their second or third language.", "Decent people recognizing a situation and acting always pulls a heart string for me.", "Cars these days will automatically turn on the hazard lights after a collision.", "It's a mistake I see a lot on Reddit, similar to people using \"have\" and \"are\" when the subject is a company/organization. Some people appreciate being corrected so they can improve.", "I disagree, if you give people a choice to save a life or take a hit on their insurance, it's gonna be save the life almost every time. \n\nI know I would, I hope you would too.", "Die beste man verdient een onderscheiding !", ">Liability insurance might not of paid. Full coverage will pay. \n>\nNot of?\n\nWhat in the world does \"not of\" mean?", "Thank goodness this didn't happen in the USA or the person that was unconscious would probably try to sue", "lol, you should be careful what you guarantee or people most likely will stop trusting you with anything", "If the driver of the polo had fully comprehensive insurance then they will always lay for damage to your own vehicle no matter how it was caused. Accidental, medical events, or vandalism will always be paid out at an excess to your next year's premium.", "How sad is your life to try and disparage Americans any chance you can?", "In many countries the mandatory traffic insurance covers only the damage you cause to others.", "As an American, America needs to be knocked down a few pegs considering the massive egos we've built over just the last century", "Depends on what type of insurance you have. If the Netherlands is anything like Norway, the only car insurance you are required by law to have is liability. Depending on age and value of the car, accident coverage for your own car might not be financially worth the cost.", "Not to mention that most states have Good Samaritan laws in place, so not only is it cynical and sad, it's factually incorrect.", "Seems like a company car. The man is Still a legend and hero!", "Yeah but \"aMeRiCaNs StUpId LeL\"", "Speak for yourself then.", "guys got guts. if that car had been going faster and he'd taken a bigger wallop", "Do you know what the best handling car in the world is? \n\nA hire car.", "God bless these gentleman. Faith in humanity restored", "In america this is how we handle people who are in diabetic shock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfMPTFTUs6c and https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock/\n\nor having a stroke. https://filmingcops.com/watch-virginia-cop-uses-pepper-spray-taser-unresisting-man-stroke/", "Sorry America isn't the beloved utopia you've always thought it was. Maybe just stop getting offended lol", "In the UK at least, everyone who drives on a public road must have at minimum 3rd party cover. Many people do opt for the more expensive comprehensive insurance which covers 3rd parties and also damage to your own vehicle even if the accident was your own fault. \n\nI only bother with 3rd party cover because my car is worth less than £2000 but when I've had more expensive cars then I did pay for fully comp. insurance. What's more, there is a very high uptake of insurance because getting caught without is an automatic 12 month driving ban where I live unless there are some major mitigating circumstances. e.g. being misled by your employer or a spouse failing to renew insurance without telling their partner and they had previously been insured by them for a long time, that kind of thing.\n\nI expect it works like this in most parts of the world where insurance is actually a legal requirement.", "Yeah, I do not mind being corrected at all even though English is my first language, I still make mistakes and always like to learn. I also correct others sometimes, if their mistake isn't obviously a simple typo, only so they can improve as you say. Just don't be a twat about it and most people are pleased to learn.\n\nMy pet hate though I have to say is the \"Should of\" instead of \"have\".", "Never said it was. Maybe quit assuming you know everyone lol. There goes your ego again.", "I agree it is similar in Germany. I took the original post to which I commented as „due to the medical emergency he might not receive any compensation“ not as he might not have the proper insurance that would pay.", "Only if they had an ambulance called for them.", "Funny, the people ragging on America all the time are the ones who usually get offended by just about everything.", "ABSOLUTE LEGEND! \n\n\nAny1 knows how the insurancecompanies handled this one?", "https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWfc60WIWRM/?utm_medium=copy_link", "Let’s petition to change the term “having a stroke” to “getting unwell”", "Funny, the people who criticize others for “getting offended” are the ones that get offended when you’re ragging on the US 🤡", "As a non-American, I actually think the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. Maybe 20 years ago America needed a reality-check but now the public perception of it imo is far too negative. People act like America is some hellscape when it's actually a very nice country (although with some flaws, like all countries). Europe on the other hand has become super idealized, often far more than it should be.", "That poor man having a stroke and being tasered... then pepper sprayed. I got beaten through panic attacks for being comatose by my own mother not knowing what was happening, good to know the police will just straight up kill me for being off-white.", "Nah, it's a hellscape where the lady with 5 broken ribs in OPs video would have a $110,000 hospital bill. The comment that spawned this is 100% on the mark.", "Gosh you sure seem triggered about this.", "Hahahaha wow, some Americans, not all, are seriously fucking delusional about the state of their shit-hole country. These two bozos included^.", "She would probably have to in order to pay her hospital bills here.", "Doesn't hold in court and the insurance companies know. And it would be the worst PR for the insurance company as well", "I was gonna say, if this happened in the US the police would probably slam his car in to the ditch and then beat him. It fucking disgusts me how we've trained our police to react to everything with instant aggression. Guy wandering down the street naked, unarmed, presumably on drugs or mentally ill? Better tase him, beat him, and press him onto the ground until he dies.", "The guy said that he doesn't feel like a hero at all, it's just something a human being should do.\n\n.... which makes it even more heroic lol", "Imagine having your head that far up your ass, couldn’t be me", "Just layin' the irony on real thick there.", "He could had match his speed little by little and make it come to a stop with less damage, still, Good on that man for doing what he did.", "Or, they'd have insurance through their work (as most Americans do) and receive world-class care immediately at a reasonable cost. But I agree the US healthcare system isn't great, however that's one of the flaws I mentioned, while it's a phenomenal country in many other ways.", "Well, at least I can afford a doctor to pull my head out of my ass!", "Frustrating as hell, and as Americans we superimpose those anxieties in other nations because most of us don’t even know how bad we’re getting screwed. The amount of people not “helping” in theses situations or allowing things to get worse so they don’t have to get involved is probably pretty staggering, if we could quantify it.", "Good on people for taking a few moments out of their own day to help save someone else. Far too many people would have just honked / flipped the guy off for driving too slow as they sped by.", "Complete hyperbole. The facts simply don't match your irrational views on this.", "Completely agree!", "Just offering my perspective as someone who's lived on 4 continents. America is not nearly as bad as it's portrayed on Reddit. It offers near unparalleled opportunity, diverse climates/cultures, and a convenience unmatched by virtually anywhere else. Yes, there are also significant flaws but it's a nice country to live in, and the amount of people who would kill for a green card shows that.", "Says the one who replied first about us poor Americans getting picked on. Ok buddy.", "At least there aren't (yet) any posts about how the camera car was in the wrong somehow, or that someone in Kansas, USA performed the same heroic feat but the ill guy died, and as a result it was made law there that you explicitly can't do this, and how we're therefore all fools for agreeing it's a good idea.", "There's a lot to love about every country. But American egos are the most damaged to any form of criticism.", "You clearly have no idea what you are talking about if you think everyone with workplace insurance is getting world class medical care for a reasonable cost. I've had insurance my whole life and have had to fight for just decent medical care, and also fight my insurance companies trying to get out of paying. So... kindly stop talking about things you don't know, thanks.", "And that is how it works here. Family members sue other family to get insurance money when there’s accidents at their/others houses etc. it’s just how the insurance process works if they aren’t arbitrating FOR you in court (which is what most car insurance cos do). No animosity about it, that’s just the process.", "Either you sue or the medical bills bankrupt you. Welcome to the land of the free!", "The fact that it happens >0 times is a problem, even if it is hyperbole. The police is not here to beat the fuck out of people that need help. Hell, they're not even here to beat the fuck out of people that need to be arrested.\n\nIt's a sign of a police state when cops get to act like that and receive little to no repercussions.", "I live in the country that this video was taken in and I don't trust insurance companies one lick either. It's bad business to just payout every time. The fact this has been reported about in the news and there is video evidence of the event will likely pressure the insurance company to just pay and let it pass since it'd be bad publicity otherwise, but they sure as shit would put up a fight if this wasn't widely reported on.", "Possibly more than one if the car had continued into the motorway", "I really disagree. If anything I think Americans shit on their country far more than they should and are often unaware of how good they have it. Housing would be an example, [Americans have the most affordable housing](https://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/rankings.jsp) in the developed world yet I still see Americans whine nonstop about how unaffordable it is. \n\nIf anything I've found the European countries I've lived in are very sensitive to critcism, with the exception being maybe the UK where they are similar to Americans and love to shit on their own country as well.", "Medical debt is the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US.", "r/HumansBeingBros", "It might be slightly exaggerated, but it is true, that's how some people outside the US think, and rightly so.", "Thats what I call a hero.", "This would never have happened in the states, too many self centered people.", "I was given a ride home by the guy who hit my parked car. At one point I told him that he shouldn’t take it personally when I end suing because I’m not suing him, I’m suing his insurance company. He kinda laughed it off for a second and then stopped and said “Wait, you’re not joking are you?”. It’s just the way it is unfortunately.", "Definitely good of the driver to stop that car. Also considering that collisions hurt a hell of a lot more than they look like they do. Even some that look soft-ish.", "> most of us don’t even know how bad we’re getting screwed\n\nYour average broadband prices are astonishing as someone from the UK.", "they meant to say \"might not HAVE paid\". Some speakers can't tell the difference in the sounds of those phrases, and in writing they confuse the words", "She broke 5 ribs? Was she wearing a seatbelt?", "Wonder how insurance would look at that. Are there good Samaritan clauses that involve damaging your car during a medical event?", "I'm glad you enjoyed your stay here and happy to hear your positive first impressions. But with all due respect, as somebody who's lived here their entire life, those complaints about the state of the housing market and stagnating wages is completely warranted.\n\n The wealth gap is ever increasing with little sign of stopping and our current politics and policies aren't seeing much improvement towards improving it because of corporate lobbying tricking much of our working class to vote against their own interests over single issues that never even end up coming to fruition. \n\nAmerica is a great place to visit and even a great place to live!..if you can afford it..", ">You 'avin a stroke mate!?", ">\treceive world-class care immediately at a reasonable cost\n\nYou have to be joking. The last time I was in the hospital I received a $70,000 bill that has fucked my credit for years. That’s with insurance. The total bill was in the hundreds of thousands. \n\nI have a seizure condition and have to warn coworkers and friends to not call an ambulance if I have a seizure around them because it costs me $2000+ just to get a ride to hospital that can’t treat me. That’s not even including the emergency room bill, which will be several more thousand. \n\nAlso, many U.S. companies will go out of their way to find ways to disqualify their employees from any health insurance benefits. Then, even if you actually qualify for their health insurance plan, you’ll have huge deductible’s and monthly payments.", "> having a stroke\n\nWeird way to phrase that as \"got unwell\".", "hmmm... maybe covered under the Good PR plan.", "Holy shit I'm sorry this happened to you", "I’d love to think insurance companies would have exceptions for something like this but let’s be honest…likely everyone is getting the “at fault” designation here because insurance companies gonna insurance company", "By the reasoning \"it happens > 0 times\", it is also hypocritical, since \"it happens > 0 times\" will apply to any country around the world, even the Netherlands.", "> And since the car behind obviously hits the car in front, the latter's insurance has to pay.\n\nformer, you mean?", "I’ve literally watched my diabetic friend get beat by the police and arrested for going into a diabetic coma while driving. He ended up crashing into the library right across from the gas station we both worked at. I ran across the street to try and help and instead got to watch the police drag him out of the car and slam him into the ground while repeatedly punching his head. He was completely unresponsive as they did this.", "American here. I work with people all over the globe, including a lot in various European countries. They all have beef with something or other about their home lands. Everyone gets some stuff right and some stuff wrong. No one country is perfect and they can all stand to improve in some way. IMO, part of the issue with the US is there are so many that refuse to accept our country isn't the best at everything and could learn lots of things from other countries. Suggesting that we can get better is basically asking to be labeled a traitor of sorts to many. There is no nuance to a sizeable part of our country, and to admit there is room for improvement is apparently one of the worst things a person can do.", "Seatbelts can break ribs. Probably minor fractures. Better than hitting the steering wheel/windshield.", "Man I don't want to live in the US anymore.", "For context I lived and worked in America for 2 years, and have visited it probably 30+ times (I grew up in Canada so visited lots, and now my parents live there so I visit them often). So my opinion isn't coming from a simple tourist who passed through.\n\nHousing in America is dirt cheap relative to salaries. Where I live now, the median price of a 2 bedroom condo is 18x the median salary for context. Meanwhile in many large American cities, you can buy a 4 bedroom house for 3-4x median salary. Genuinely Americans have no context of how good their housing market is.\n\nBut I'm not trying to pretend America is a utopia, it's not. It has problems as does every other country. But the fact that me mentioning \"America isn't a hellscape\" get's heavily downvoted highlights my original point: people's perception of America is extremely low. Far lower than it deserves to be. Both from Americans and non-americans alike.", "Bro I was agreeing with you, I’m saying they’re the ones with their head up their ass. Trust me, I live in the US, I don’t think I could afford the doctor that could do that.", "Yeah, I had a patient whose life was ruined because he had a diabetic emergency (ketoacidosis) and was found disoriented while driving. The cops booked him, he lost his then-job, and the top Google result for his name will forever be that he was arrested for drunk driving.", "Yeah, a sense of fairness runs through your veins, or it doesn’t.", "I hope you don't mind me saying, but you guys have the worst healthcare system. It's unfathomable how this is a thing.", "holy shit guys look it's a time traveller from the far-off year of 2004", "Wat?", "And we're raising your rates 500%", "I have epilepsy, and situations like this have lead me to choose to never get my license even with the clearance from my doctor. I read about a woman who had a seizure and killed two children, and that has really made the decision for me. None of my family understand though. My grandmother still talks about when I get my license.", "For sure! I don't even want to know what an airbag feels like, it just seemed quite a lot for a non-stationary, sub 20 mph collision, but I guess for every \"I walked away from this 60mph wipeout without a scratch\" story, there's one like this.", "As opposed to figuratively hate?", "I think the reply was just playing along with the joke. Not an attack towards you lol", "Also you are getting sued for damages by the driver that crashed into you. \nAs well you are now responsible for all of his hospital bills. \nHave a good rest of your life.", "Yes", "I've seen internal insurance docs for major companies before, talking about more public incidents like these. It's almost always \"cheaper\" to pay for good PR in a case like this than it is to deny coverage, and that's how a lot of them look at it.", "I'm going to say that since this seems to be the Netherlands, there is at least a better chance of a good insurance outcome than there might be in most other countries.", "Can confirm it works that way in the Netherlands", "So the myth of frivolous lawsuits in the US is perpetrated by corporations to stigmatize legitimate public lawsuits against them. The McDonald's Coffee Incident\" is often cited as an example of frivolous lawsuits, but leaves out that McDonalds had heated their coffee to an extremely high temperature, and left the woman with severe third degree burns requiring skin grafts, and causing her to be partially disabled for 2 years. McDonald's launched an extremely effective PR campaign to discredit the victim and discourage further lawsuits. You can learn more about it here: \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAzMMKIspPQ\n\nFrivolous lawsuits DO happen for all sorts of reasons, but they are much more often used by the rich to crush the poor.", "The cables are longer per capita though", "Yeah, not going to fault the effort or outcome, but the execution could definitely be better. Whiplash is a B.", ">IMO, part of the issue with the US is there are so many that refuse to accept our country isn't the best at everything and could learn lots of things from other countries.\n\nThis isn't my experience at all, my experience is much more aligned with this thread and comment chain where everyone shits on America nonstop and can't possibly comprehend that it's actually not such a bad country. \n\nI've never met an American who believes it's the #1 country. Maybe I've been extrmely lucky, or just ran in the right circles, but even the people I met who really loved living in America still acknowleged it has many flaws and that there are nations who do certain things better.", "> similar to people using \"have\" and \"are\" when the subject is a company/organization\n\nIsn't that more of a British thing than anything? I've heard Brits use \"are\" with groups a lot. Like \"the police are coming\".", "They will pay. For example, insurance for twin towers did exclude acts of terrorism, but all the claims were paid out.", "They might not have one written in the contract or other agreements, but it's likely they would choose to cover the cost of damages - otherwise the media could run a story about how a good Samaritan was being \"punished\" by an insurance company for potentially saving another driver's life and more.", "> for saving het life.\n\nFound the Dutch person. ;)", "As a Type 1 Diabetic who has gone into insulin shock while drinking this is terrifying. \n\nI was work and had a pretty rough night. I took my normal amount of insulin for my lunch break but because of the extra work I was doing my blood sugar dropped and I blacked out. I woke up on the other side of the city in a ditch on the side of the highway, my car totalled. The cops showed up and acted like they never heard of diabetes before. The medics showed up and tested me and my blood glucose level was 65 and that was after I was starting to come back.\n\nI was very lucky that night.", "We're making up for the last 70 years of \"America #1 best country in the world!!\" High that the boomers in power are still riding off of. \n\nAlso what cities are you comparing too? Anywhere worth living with great opportunities I can assure you is not affordable under the median wage of the people living in that area. Yes if you're working with a LA/SF median wage and live in your pick of any landlocked-flyover state you can for sure live very comfortably. Unfortunately that isn't really the case of most of the people living here. \n\nThe best opportunities are in big cities but big cities are where you typically have to pay $3000 USD a month for a 1BR apt in a decent area even though the current median wages for people who live in said states is only around 35-45k a year. That is far from affordable.", "I'm not living in the USA so my life is quite content and happy because I don't live in a third world country that my Government keeps telling me is the greatest nation on earth.", "Always glad to see some perspective and insight beating out reddit's usual go-to cynicism.", ".... auf English, bitte?", "I literally hate people who use the word \"literally\" as a sentence power-up.", "Funny to think that only insurance companies are as heartless as to actually go forward with arguing this was a forced accident despite them saving a persons life by doing such an act.", "Also now that its viral the insurance company is going to look at it as a win-win from a marketing standpoint. I'd be shocked if they didn't pay up.", "I know part of the reason for her winning that case was the arrogance of the McDonalds lawyers in front of the jury, but I call BS on the extremely hot coffee. It can't be hotter than 100C?\n\nAnd if they just made a fresh batch then it wouldn't be far from boiling, hot yes but didn't the woman put the coffee between her legs and start driving?", "You're absolutely wrong: In the USA the person having a medical emergency would had swerved into highway traffic as everyone who is aware of the road will be dodging this car. Ain't no one gonna have their premium raised lol", "> Welcome to the land of the free!\n\nfree if you have $1,000,000 in assets", "Lol damn autocorrect\n\nETA: Gekoloniseerd?", "We really don't. Pardon me for saying so, but I fly internationally half the year for my work, and 1) foreign hospitals scare the F out of me as I have seen slums that look better maintained and funded and 2) the number of foreigners who can afford to that fly to the US for medical care has only seemed to increase in my experience. My seatmate on a flight out of CDG last week was a woman in her early 40's who was on her way to Washington for a root canal. \nNow if you want to insult our civil legal system and it's ridiculously litigious nature, by all means, as that is legitimately a S\\\\tshow compared to the rest of the world.", "I don’t know if that’s the case everywhere , but I guess it should be somewhat similar to what we have here, the ones that get rear ended are the ones that get reimbursed by the insurance company, so in this case he should be clear. Obviously I don’t know if that’s how it works here, but it would make sense", "If you read up on this you will know that it was hotter at McDonald's, because other establishments were concerned about burns just like this one. \n\nIt's on Wikipedia and here is the excerpt :McDonald's required franchisees to hold coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C). Liebeck's attorney argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140 °F (60 °C), and that a number of other establishments served coffee at a substantially lower temperature than McDonald's. They presented evidence that coffee they had tested all over the city was all served at a temperature at least 20°F (11°C) lower than what McDonald's served. Liebeck's lawyers also presented the jury with expert testimony that 190 °F (88 °C) coffee may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about 3 seconds and 180 °F (82 °C) coffee may produce such burns in about 12 to 15 seconds.[2] Lowering the temperature to 160 °F (71 °C) would increase the time for the coffee to produce such a burn to 20 seconds. \n\nAlso, she initially just wanted medical expenses paid, only sued when McDonald's denied to pay that. Perhaps her lawsuit also saved many people from future burns by making big franchises take heed of this.", "140°F is equivalent to 60°C, which is 333K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)", "Kind of a fucked up thing to say to the guy giving you a ride to be honest.", "It's Dutch, not German you uncultured swine.", "/r/fuckthes", "At the very end, the driver at the door immediately directs (I assume) the dash cam driver to call for help. This is incredibly important in emergency situations like this. Always direct a single person to call ASAP.", "Yeah, you better give me the insurance because I'm going to beat the HELL out of this thing.", "The quality of healthcare may be great but the system to get it is beyond awful.", "My circles are like that, too. But I'm not sure how you've missed the last five years in particular where millions of people get pissed when anyone dare suggest maybe there are problems in the US that need to be addressed. You remember the whole NFL anthem kneeling thing? People lost their shit over what was very clearly an American exercising their right to peaceful protest because they were \"disrespectful to the country\".", "people in the comments are arguing if they will pay out; well ofcourse they will but the core of the question is will the driver who took the impact still be penalised with higher rates when his insurance is due for renewal and the answer is yes. insurance companies literally do the bare minimum and don't care at all. even if you get rear ended where you are at 0% fault your premiums will still increase.", "You hit the nail right on the head. I 100% agree with your post.\n\nIf anything I'd argue that people who are more critical of their own country are true patriots because they actually want to actually learn from their mistakes and improve. It's clear that the US, like any other country has its flaws. But we seem to be the only country where half the population is either just ignorant, complacent or completely in denial of any social and economic issues that is currently happening. \n\nAre we the only country with these issues? No... but half of the US population refuses to acknowledge such issues exist let alone address it. This is what half a century \"America #1 forever and always, fuck you!!\" does to people.", "i think it depends on how wide spread knowledge of the situation is, if its only on your dashcam and nobody else sees it then you can bet you are going to have to cough up the money yourself.\n\nif it gets wide spread like this and makes the news then its cheap pr and they pay for the damages.\n\nthats what i think anyway i dont know for sure.", "> I'm not living in the USA\n\nThat makes sense, since you don't know what you're talking about. It's unlikely the person who was unconscious would have any grounds to sue since the person helping minimized the damages that would occur, it's unlikely the person who was unconscious would even try to sue since the person helping likely saved their life, and if they did try to sue, the person who saved their life would likely be protected by good samaritan laws.\n\nAs others have pointed out, it's a misconception that Americans are overly litigious.\n\nThere's enough to complain about with America and Americans, I don't know why you need to make shit up when you have to know you don't have any idea what the legal landscape here is.", "Here it is, true humanity and love of neighbor!", "This video shows perfectly how obviously much cars don't matter at all when life and death concequences are right before us.... such contrast vs how bad we are at processing relatively slow moving crisis like climate breakdown.", "You should watch that link I posted where it shows photos of her burns. It proves the point beyond a shadow of a doubt.", "World-class care? No, just straight up average for a rich country frankly.\n\nPay enough and you can get the care you boast off, but the average sucker getting their wallet stolen from them for the next decade or more is not receiving anything near that.", "You know how to take the reservation, you just don't know how to hold the reservation.", "> Always glad to see some perspective and insight beating out reddit's usual go-to cynicism.\n\nI would assume they would pay for it because if he didn't do it, the damage would have been worse and more expensive on their end.\n\nNot only did this guy possibly save a life, but in the end repairing two bumpers is goign to be cheaper than what would have happened had he went down in the trees or crossed traffick.", "Proves the point that you have to be careful with fresh hot coffee and not hold it without a lid between your legs?\n\nDownvote me all you want but I think the she was a dummy, the court ruled that she was partly at fault too.", "A family member of mine was charged with drunk driving, even though they did no testing at the time, and she didn't drink. \n\n\nShe was stopped at a red light, and all of a sudden she just forgot who she was, where she was, and how to drive the car. \n\nAs it turned out, she had a particularly aggressive rare form of early onset dementia. Her case was so out of the norm that the Mayo clinic invited her to be studied/treated. Less than 2 years later, she was gone. \n\n\nShe lost her job, her clearance and her accounts were depleted so she didn't even have enough to keep her house, let alone pass anything on to her kids.", "[Mostly because Congressed passed a bill to force them to. ](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-107publ297/html/PLAW-107publ297.htm)\n\nThat bill took a year to get passed, but it applied retroactively to the 2001 Terrorist Attacks", "Also a a other point is many ins companies have accident forgiveness as long as you don't have one every X years etc... so as long as this person is a safe driver otherwise probably won't go up.\n\nAlso this was probably just a fender bender... so a couple grand max.", "Check out prices in my shithole country, Canada. Housing prices, groceries, essential supplies are at insane record highs and the current government is increasing immigration to fill in the next bottom layer of the pyramid scheme. Trudeau just used a town that burned 95% to the ground this summer during a record heatwave as a \"prop\" to push his goals at whatever \"climate change summit\" he last attended. Guess how much help the refugees got from the federal government? Zero. Guess how many federal personnel were on site doing their jobs? Zero. Guess how many dollars have been allocated opr even promised to help these poor low income people who lost everything(in this country/\"economy\" everything = their homes) People were donating emergency supplies and spare bedrooms to house them and local businesses in my small town were just feeding them and worrying about reimbursement later, like decent people. Feds claimed anyone could sign up for food card, just use your laptop, it's super easy right? Only these specific people JUST HAD THEIR HOUSES AND EVERYTHING THEY OWNED BURN TO ASHES. I don't think they have seen any money from Trudeaus liberals yet at this point. Fuck this federal government.\n\nI genuinely do not know why we are part of this trainwreck of a country. The federal government can't even see past Quebec. They just see BC as a potential resource they can exploit for themselves or their personal friends or someone who has done them a dirty favor, and that's IT.", "I experienced something similar, driver next to me appeared to be alseep (or just leaning his head against the window). But I wasnt sure so I just took my exit. A little later I heard on the radio there was a massive accident on that road section. \n\nMaybe I could have helped, maybe he would have crashed into me, maybe it wasnt even the same dude. Ill never know, feels weird though, trolly problem in real life.", "I feel you. I hate when pedantic idiots on reddit try to cause something out of nothing.", "Ok compare it to any first world country then. Obviously countries that are still trying to get their shit together might have bad facilities, but a least they don't have to worry being able to afford their treatment for the most part.", "I remember a story of a burglar that fell through a ceiling window and landed on kitchen knives. He then sued the family for damages and won. Completely false and another example", "Omigosh! Yes! let's make this a Hallmark Romance movie! This is the meet-cute. I think the person in the car was a woman from the comments above... So, either the hero driver could be written as woman (or vice versa) Or, maybe a romance with the person who took the dash cam? It becomes harder and harder to ignore the chemistry over time. supporting and holding each other as they decompress at the hospital in the immediate aftermath of the accident. Playful flirting banter during press interviews. Then there needs to be some boy-looses-boy/misunderstanding drama. And what if, to bring it full circle, what brings them back together is a car crash! \n\nThis could be written as a serious drama, I guess. But, this is our first writing piece as a team u/hambeef . So, maybe we do something a little more formulaic. What do you think?", "in russia we fake heart attack to get rear ended , joke on you , Mr. Niceguy", "Your not at fault if you're rear ended are you?", "Keaton did a movie on this", "[:'(](https://preview.redd.it/zzz1mz5v18711.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b00ad7a38e984e467fade44524ac399c5be25cf9)", "Big companies love people like you. Do you also know this wasn't the first time McD's was sued for this? It was like the 20th time the court had heard the EXACT same argument.\n\nBut let's say STILL that you think it's her fault. The coffee was so hot that MCD's cheap cup couldn't withstand the heat and folded onto her. THATS why it happened, not that she put it in her lap. (Which how else are you supposed to cream your coffee in a car? People do this everyday, it's very standard)\n\nYou are victim blaming 100% and if it was your grandmother, you would be furious at shitty comments just like yours.", "I hope, one day, that the whole world is like the Nordic countries", "I turned it off immediately because I can't stand that sort of music over these videos.", "For most people trying to do that in the mirrors is going to end up with this kind of result.\n\n99% of people really only practice matching speed for lane changes and the mirrors throw your perspective off.", "Smart people always take action according to the situation it's excellent.", "On /r/idiotsincars I've often commented that some of these situations are caused by health issues like a stroke, or diabetes, etc. \n\nWhen I was like 21 I was following a woman whom I thought was driving drunk and the police got there and she was an older woman who apparently had a stroke and was disoriented.", "I hate racism. And the Dutch.", "Ohh my bad bro I thought you were talking about me. But yeah it actually blows my mind", "Initial thought is that they would do anything to pay nothing. Second thought is you could spin it as it's the unwells responsibility.", "Right?!?! Like they teach you in CPR class - point at someone and say \"YOU!!! Call 911!!!\"", "Like background music in a 30 second video?", "You dont know what that word means do you?", "You will have increased rates.", "It's true. I don't know what the word \"music\" means.", "Liebeck was 79 at the time. She got coffee with her daughter as a passenger in the car, which did not have cup holders. She put the cup between her legs so she could take the lid off to add cream and sugar. She accidentally tipped it onto her crotch and it was so hot that it caused severe burns over 16% of her body. She was hospitalized for 8 days and required skin grafting. After being released she required 3 weeks of at home care and was partially disabled for 2 years as a result of the injuries. Her attorneys discovered that McDonald's was selling coffee heated between 180-190F (82-88C) at the time.", "then move.\n\nI am. Not because I'm a hater or don't like America, I've just decided I want to spend the final years of my life on beaches with crystal clear waters of Valparaiso Chile, within a quick drive to the Andes Mountains if I feel like it. \n[https://smartasset.com/financial-advisor/retire-in-chile](https://smartasset.com/financial-advisor/retire-in-chile)", "Of course you need a dashcam on your cars with laws like that or fraudsters can just slam on their breaks in front of you to cause an accident that you’ll be found at fault for.", "Got to love reddit.", "You are if you're rear ended intentionally", "This is the Netherlands and your correct about our laws", "Joke by Douglas Adams \n\nTrillian: \"Did you know they've made the death penalty mandatory for Insurance Executives?\"\n\nArthur Dent: \"Really, for what offence?\"\n\nTrillian: \"What do you mean, offence?\"\n\nArthur Dent: \"I see...\"", "Facts", "We really don't have the gofundme culture here. This is the Netherlands insurance will fulltime cover it.", "Depends on the insurance. Many times a dead person is more expensive than a car.", "Interesting. The guy in front chose to basically stop in front of the unwell driver/car which caused a larger collision instead of just slowing down gradually in front of him.", "Funny thing is, even if the US is objectively #1 at some positive things, that still doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement in said things. You think athletes that are at the top of their game sit back and go \"eh, good enough\"? Unlikely. Of course there are decreasing returns that need to be considered from a practical sense, but if a country sits back and coasts because they're \"the best\" (whether they are or aren't), they won't be for long, and may even start falling apart. Why does Coca Cola advertise so much? Literally everyone knows about Coke. They do it to stay relevant and they do it so much to stay dominant.", "Not mention the insurance companies were likely saved a lot of money in payouts if that person had a much worse accident then slowly rear ending that.", "How did he manage to turn his emergency flashers on? It that just an automatic thing?", "Never in my life would I hold a hot cup of coffee between my legs while also taking the lid off. Even with a lid I wouldn't.\n\nI believe where I come from, unless it's self-service coffee then the server adds the milk/sugar to your coffee and then places the lid on, can't say for certain since I've only ever asked for black coffee.\n\nBut reddit seems to hate me today so I guess I'm wrong, I do come from the country that drinks most coffee per capita so perhaps it's also a difference in culture.\n\nEDIT: P.S. My granny wouldn't drink anything but homemade coffee", "I'm sure a gofundme would cover the actual damage, but insurance will be insurance and I wouldn't be shocked if his rates didn't go up. Still, some damage to save a life, heck yes.", "What if I told you there were countless cases of citizens and police officers helping people in similar situations in the US.", "This is why reddit blows", "Why", "I have optional comprehensive coverage for damage to my car that isn't attributed to another driver - I just have to pay a $300 deductible and it would result in an increase in premiums (well not sure how it works under new no at fault rules we got). \n\nExample: I was driving down the highway and a car in the lane over kicked up a shoe (yes a shoe) and it flew into my grill. I had dashcam footage that showed this happening. As result if I needed get it fixed I would only pay deductible (turns out damage was negligible. With the dashcam OR if I drove over the shoe it would have been my fault and I would have premium increase etc.", "this was in the netherlands...", "Why the /S. \n\nOf course it was intentional and won’t be covered by insurance…", "Faith in humanity restored.", "> Proves the point that you have to be careful with fresh hot coffee and not hold it without a lid between your legs\n\nBruh, you're literally the 10th guy at the end of a gossip chain with the facts thrown out the window. She didn't put it between her legs without a lid, it was in the passenger seat on a parked car. Like, stated in the court documents. [If you take a look at her 3RD DEGREE BURNS, it spilled and melted her left thigh toward her groin area.](https://youtu.be/pCkL9UlmCOE?t=313)", "Technically they caused an accident, i don't think the good intentions factor into the situation at all from the insurers point of view. \n\nHopefully the person whose life he saved will pickup the deductible, but i don't think there's anything to be done about the rate increases. From an insurance point of view, this is obviously a \"high risk\" decision made by the driver who saved the day that is a clear indication of his willingness to put the car the insurance company is insuring against damage into situations where this is a higher chance of damage. \n\nsadly.", "The costs to the customer and the horrible situation with insurance leaves a lot to be desired. \n\nbut the actual quality and caliber of the care, the actual service rendered by medical professionals is some of the best in the world. People of means worldwide still come to America to get care when price is no object.", "If the driver is young enough it might be wise to not let the case go to insurance but foot the bill yourself. Depends on the cost of car insurance in the Netherlands and how many years in difference payment the damage is worth.", ">het life\n\nFun typo give that it's a Dutch video.", ">Liebeck was in the passenger's seat of a 1989 Ford Probe which did not have cup holders. Her grandson parked the car so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. Liebeck placed the coffee cup between her knees and pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it. In the process, she spilled the entire cup of coffee on her lap.[12] Liebeck was wearing cotton sweatpants; they absorbed the coffee and held it against her skin, scalding her thighs, buttocks, and groin.\n\nShe had it between her knees apparently.\n\n>A twelve-person jury reached its verdict on the Liebeck case on August 18, 1994.[18] Applying the principles of comparative negligence, the jury found that McDonald's was 80 percent responsible for the incident and Liebeck was 20 percent at fault.\n\nThe courts gave her 20% of the fault.\n\nHate me all you want but I did read the wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants) to be sure I remembered this correctly.", "[Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants) \n \n >Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants, also known as the McDonald's coffee case and the hot coffee lawsuit, was a highly publicized 1994 product liability lawsuit in the United States against McDonald's. Plaintiff Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman, suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled hot coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant. Liebeck was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "I always wonder what happens with the insurance afterwards in cases like this", "Your wrong. We a have good health facilities and professionals, but our health care SYSTEM is absolute fucking shit. Most of the cost is bureaucracy not medicine and it absolutely unnecessary and it doesn't even fill the pockets of the actual medical professionals. Thats VERY broken. Basically, are you poor? get fucked! That's not a functioning system, that indentured servitude as payment for healthcare.", "Whatever happens it will be by the book... insurance companies are not known for being lenient or understanding.", "When a society actually cares about each other.", "Latter in order of the cars on the road.", "Last time this was posted he had a seizure. Poor guy", "too first world for me, this is completely unfathomable in my country.\n\nthe guy stopping the car would be far more likely to be doing it to rob him", ">nunspeter\n\nhehehe", "Zeg makker", "If she was unconscious she may have been slumped over or in an awkward position when the collision happened", "> repairing two bumpers\n\nThey could total both cars and it'd likely be cheaper still. From all the continued guard rail damage to injuries and other potential accidents if he veered back into traffic, they saved money. \n\nEven in the US I see no situation where the insurance company is an ass about this. Their driver was driving while incapacitated. It is automatic, especially with the video.", "People always say \"severe third degree burns\" about this case but always leave out the part of where the burn occurred. \n\nSay it with me. \"Fused labia\". 3rd degree burns all over her groin and she initially tries to settle for just the medical bills.", "Hahaha those Dutch thought they could hide from ussss!!", "It’s been difficult for me with octogenarian parents and their driving. My mother had a seizure and couldn’t understand why she shouldn’t drive. She still can’t fathom that she could be the person in this video.", "I'm pretty sure that story is from the movie Liar Liar with Jim Carry. It's the story his secretary (?) uses to explain to Carry why she hates lawyers.", ">Frivolous lawsuits DO happen for all sorts of reasons, but they are much more often used by the rich to crush the poor. \n\nProbably true in general. My only experience with lawsuits (thankfully secondhand) has been seeing absolutely insane, frivolous malpractice suits. Medical malpractice law certainly has a role in society, but for every justified suit I've heard about, I'm aware of vastly more which serve no purpose except to drag the physician's name through the mud and cause them grief all in the hope of a jackpot payday from the malpractice insurance company. \n\nTo quote a med-mal lawyer I know: \"you find me a sympathetic client and I'll find the malpractice\"", "Ohhh instead of yelling \"somebody call 911!\" Then others look around for the somebody", "Diabetic attack?", "\"Please tell me you got that on camera\"\n\n- Him, probably", "The incapacitated lady broke 5 ribs, I'm guessing this was a harder hit than you might think.", "Hahaha.. Well, close. I would settle for that world wide too.", "Correct. If it’s “somebody call 911” then there’s an increased chance of everyone thinking it’ll be someone else so no one calls. Also better to be organized probably", "Was the coffee freshly brewed? According to [this](https://driftaway.coffee/temperature/?amp) coffee should be brewed between 195-205F, but is best drank between 120-140F.", "This jarred me a bit. I was always taught that former and latter are in order of when they are described. The latter being the last one. In this case the car in front was mentioned Second so it is the latter.", "I'm not sure - I don't recall hearing it said when I stayed there but I haven't spent very long in the UK. \"The police are coming\" would be correct in the US too. It's more when it's like a company name that it should be used as a singular entity. Eg \"Microsoft is a software company, Apple has released a new laptop.\".", "I mean, I'm assuming this went Viral in The Netherlands.\n\nThey'd likely see the potential blowback for trying to screw someone doing a courageous act out of a cpl grand, as a horrible negative ROI from a PR perspective.\n\nEven being coldly cynical about insurance companies, it's in their best interest here to try and use this to get some cheap PR.", "If years being subscribed to r/roadcam has taught me anything, this is somehow cammer's fault.", "No you are right, I'm just making a joke since they obviously meant to say former.", "> I believe where I come from, unless it's self-service coffee then the server adds the milk/sugar to your coffee and then places the lid on, can't say for certain since I've only ever asked for black coffee.\n\nIn America fast-food coffee is served as is and they give you additives like cream and sugar upon request.\n\n>But reddit seems to hate me today so I guess I'm wrong, I do come from the country that drinks most coffee per capita so perhaps it's also a difference in culture.\n\nBecause you are. The temperature of the coffee was served at 50-60 degrees hotter than every other fast-food chain against the guidelines of the FDA and other court ordered settlements against MCD's.\n\n> My granny wouldn't drink anything but homemade coffee\n\nKinda irrelevant to my point. But let's say your grandma made homemade coffee to the proper temp and the cup she had folded in on her, burning her and the company that made the cups hired lawyers to make your grandma look like a moron instead of paying for her medical bills. \n\nThat's basically what happened to this woman.", "No - the person who rear ended caused the accident. You are allowed to be stopped for reasonable reasons (driver driving erratically) - you are not allowed to rear end someone.", "That story predates that movie", "Yeah but this isn't the US so shut up. Can't enjoy anything on this site without narcissistic Yanks coming in here saying \"Hurr durr but if this was the USA.\"", "Even funnier to think we all pretty much accept this as truth, and it is illegal to drive without paying these heartless companies a monthly premium.", "She only settled with McDonald's when the appellate court was skeptical of the jury deciding that she was barely liable despite her actions during oral arguments.\n\nIn reality, okay, maybe McDonald's was partly liable. But coffee is a beverage that is brewed at boiling temperatures. She had no respect for that fact and decided to take the lid off the extremely hot cup with it between her legs in the car instead of waiting for it to cool down a bit first.", "Years ago there was a bad accident in front of my house. The driver I heard had some kind of diabetic blackout while driving with his family in a big suv. I'm guessing he had pushed the peddle down hard because he hit one parked car, which then hit a big old suburban, which then he the car in front of it that were parked in a row on the side of the street. He kinda rolled up the side of the car he hit, flipped his suv over and ended up on it's side, etc.\n\nIt was mass destruction for all vehicles involved, except the old tank of a suburban. Myself and some others saw the windshield had been busted by one of the passengers so we started ripping it open. Somehow everyone else was pretty much fine, although there was also a little baby in there that luckily was still strapped in and fine. It was nice seeing everyone in the immediate area jump in to help in a very chaotic situation before emergency people showed up.", "> \"Fused labia\"\n \n \nYeah, I was in the \"coffee is hot you dumb bitch\" camp until I learned about that little nugget of information a couple decades later. I was in middle school when this happened. I had recently learned of the existence of vaginas and became sort of obsessed with them. I'm certain I never heard it once mentioned on the news or around the grapevine.", "Awareness Level: 1000", "We just had to 5150 my stepfather because he has dementia and had an issue with his anxiety medication and within a really short period of time became disoriented and thought people were stealing his money. Was agitated and was yelling at everyone. He also thought people were trying to kills his dog.\n\nIt was made worse by the fact that they made him go off his anxiety meds so they would recalibrate them.\n\nHe's an amazing guy and was a great father to me so super sad to see these things in person.", "This simply is not the reality for MOST police interactions. So exaggerating the problem with bad policing is not going to get us closer to any kind of a solution. Can there be police reform in some places? Yes. Could accountability improve? Yes (and it already is in some places). But there will always be a certain segment of people who will be in conflict with the police. There could also be a lot of reform on the part of citizens who when caught committing a crime fight law officers and/or refuse to take responsibility for their actions instead of working the system. The reason the police in America are armed to the teeth is because we citizens are. To say the police are 100% of the problem is disingenuous.", "Holy shit dementia is horrifying, please just kill me holy hell.", "It’s extremely exaggerated. How people outside of the US perceive our country via the distortions of media doesn’t really interest me. The US is a vast, complex country of 330 million people. So anyone who watches a few news broadcasts from afar and forms an opinion based on that and little more isn’t very intelligent.", "McDonalds had been warned 2 or 3 times prior to that incident that the coffee was too hot. It wasn't just hot beverage hot. The coffee melted this ladies vagina and fused her labia together.\n\nI don't buy my coffee with the expectation it's going to fucking melt my skin together. McDonald's did it to lower their costs, brew less coffee, and stop people from taking advantage of free refills.\n\nKeep licking that corporate boot though.", "Right. But did it occur to you that your experience might be an isolated incident that is not representative of all cases? I was in a bad car wreck once and was seriously injured. But that does not mean that every time I get in the cart and drive I’ll be badly injured.", "Haha, yeah I can see that. In my defense it was contextual as we were discussing that very subject. He was cool and accepted all the liability for totaling my brand new car due to reckless driving. We were talking liability issues when I said that. After the initial surprise, he acknowledged that it was helpful to think about any lawsuits as being between insurance companies and not us as individuals.", "This is the kind of shit that gives me hope for humanity.", "Years ago in Boston I was driving a 26\" box truck in a steady flow of morning traffic when I spotted a car driving erratically as I have ever seen, guy was slamming the brakes, slamming the gas, swerving, no rhyme or reason to it. Called 911 and the dispatch told me to stick with him and try to box the car in if possible, which was almost impossible with the truck I was driving and the traffic situation. Dispatch said the guy probably was having a diabetic episode, like a dream like trance, just blew me away that what must have been going on in that car and that he was able to keep driving with out crashing.", "¹...does not apply to California", "Huh?\n\nThe $20,000 in damages were reduced because of the fact that the jury found she was partially responsible.\n\nThe reason she got $3 million was because of punitive damages because several hundred people had been getting severely burned by the coffee and the jury thought it was unacceptable that nothing happened and they thought $3 million would actually incentive McDonald's to change policy on serving temperature. \n\nThe reason they settled is because they didn't want to go through the years long appeals process after that $3 million in punitive damages was struck down by 80% in appellate court.\n\nIdk where you are getting the narrative that the jury thought she was barely liable.", "How do I know? I was that terrible crook with a great lawyer…", "Here is an example of a women in NC who was issued a Gatekeeper order for too many frivolous lawsuits.\n\n[https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article211814764.html](https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article211814764.html)", "/r/idiotsincars", "For anyone that doesn't speak Australian, hired car means \"rental car\".", "A lot easier said than done using the mirrors, and trying to watch out for other cars speeding past.\n\nThat crash was minor compared to what could have easily happened had he kept going veered into another lane of unsuspecting person going full highway speed, or worse case scenario managed to cross over to the other side and caused a head on collision.", "It's also a useful thing to do when you get attacked. Tell somebody \"You in the green jacket! Call the police!\" or the like.", "Oh yes. Autocorrect pulled a G E K O L O N I S E E R D on you", "It may be brewed at high temperatures but it's drunk at lower temperatures, and McDonalds knew that most of their customers wanted to drink their coffee straight away. [McDonald's admitted](http://www.jtexconsumerlaw.com/V11N1/Coffee.pdf) that its coffee was not fit for consumption because it could cause scalding injuries to the mouth and throat. McDonald's also knew that hundreds of their customers had been burnt by its coffee.\n\nAs for her settling because \"the appellate court was skeptical of the jury deciding that she was barely liable despite her actions during oral arguments\", can you cite a source for this please? The jury found Liebeck 20 per cent at fault, which is hardly \"barely\". And the judge called McDonald's conduct \"wanton\" and said it \"made no serious effort to warn its consumers by placing just the most simple, \nadequate warning on the lid of the cup\".", "Water has a boiling temperature, then it stops boiling and cools off. If you pour water into a cup and make tea, fully expect that water to be able to fuse some skin. \n\nThey don't have some special water formula that heats to higher than expected temperatures.", "I hope you're in a much better place now, that truly sounds terrible. If you ever wish to talk or vent to anybody I am here to listen!", "More than 700 people had already made claims against McDonalds because their coffee was kept near boiling before the incident. \n\nShe was parked and attempting to add cream and sugar to the coffee when it spilled. I have added cream and sugar to coffee hundreds of times after getting it from a drive-thru. My assumption is that it would not disfigure me if I got some coffee on me. \n\nIn fact, at the time, McDonalds kept their coffee 20-30 degrees hotter than other fast food places. The reason that small difference is important, is that 3rd degree burns happen at 185 degrees. McDonalds kept theirs between 180-190 degrees. Had they kept theirs more in line with industry standard, it would not have caused immediate 3rd degree burns. \n\nJust for funsies and because it is too dark now to work on my car, I decided to brew a pot of coffee to see how hot it is (you know, since we are working on baseline assumptions for how hot coffee should be). \n\nAmbient temp: 72°F\n\nWater temperature entering grounds: 191.5°F\n\nTime to brew: 3:31.35\n\nTemperature in the mug: 158.5°F\n\nSo, I would say that 158.5 degrees, in my assumption, is a hot cup of coffee. Will it give me 3rd degree burns? Not if I spill it on myself. I will certainly have a nasty burn, but nothing severe.", "And turn off the engine as the first thing you do!", "72°F is equivalent to 22°C, which is 295K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)", "Doesn't really matter if it's freshly brewed because McDonald's doesn't leave something like that to luck, they review what temperature they should serve at and make sure do so consistently. Regardless of brewing it can be adjusted to the desired temperature for serving. \n\nIn this case they decided to serve it hotter than normal, the same Wikipedia article also covers this and reading this next excerpt usually changed someone's viewpoint on this matter as people were consistently getting burns until this incident. \n\nHere is the excerpt:\n\nMcDonald's claimed that the reason for serving such hot coffee in its drive-through windows was that those who purchased the coffee typically were commuters who wanted to drive a distance with the coffee; the high initial temperature would keep the coffee hot during the trip.[2] However, it came to light that McDonald's had done research which indicated that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving.[19]\n\nOther documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000.[2] McDonald's quality control manager, Christopher Appleton, testified that this number of injuries was insufficient to cause the company to evaluate its practices. He argued that all foods hotter than 130 °F (54 °C) constituted a burn hazard, and that restaurants had more pressing dangers to worry about. The plaintiffs argued that Appleton conceded that McDonald's coffee would burn the mouth and throat if consumed when served.[2][20]\n\nThe whole Wikipedia article is a worthy read:\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants", "130°F is equivalent to 54°C, which is 327K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)", "Tell us how you really feel...", "[Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants) \n \n >Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants, also known as the McDonald's coffee case and the hot coffee lawsuit, was a highly publicized 1994 product liability lawsuit in the United States against McDonald's. Plaintiff Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman, suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled hot coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant. Liebeck was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Which means the guy who was unwell will be at fault since he went into the back of the other guy.", "Yes actually, if your driving is as bad as your arguing then I would think you are more likely to cause another accident.", "j", "I think you mean that you literally hate when pedantic idiots on Reddit try to cause something out of nothing?", "The Dutch news article I read about this incident described that the driver in the gray car saw that the driver in the black car was laying unconscious on the steering wheel.\n\nI imagine seatbelts will do great things if you are sitting in the chair normally. However, if you’ve already fallen forward and lying on the steering wheel at the time of the impact, a seatbelt or airbags will not help much.", "Hyperbole is ruining lives.", "That was my first thought when I saw the guy point.", "Coffee is supposed to be stored ready to drink at 155-175 degree Fahrenheit (68-79 Celsius)... despite already being warned, McDonald's was intentionally storing it at 180-190 degrees Fahrenheit (82-88 Celsius) which is brewing temperatures, not drinking temperatures, and that's why they got in trouble. Another poster in this comments did an experiment where they brewed a cup of coffee and it was 190 degrees when entering the grounds, but 155 degrees when it got to the pot. In order to keep it at 190 degrees after brewing, you have to purposefully overheat the coffee after brewing. \n\nIf your company is warned that the coffee is too hot and causing injuries to hundreds of customers, but you still intentionally instruct your employees to keep it that hot, that gives you some liability.", "I literally hate when people literally hate when i use literally as a sentence power", "Thats a rough situation to be in, I'm sorry. I'm lucky my grandmother has kept her driving ability, (also very lucky I still have her) life would be so much harder for her if she couldn't drive. She just turned 80 this year.", "Sorry boss but I can't come in to work today. I got unwell.", "With everyone seemingly at each other's throats right now, I needed to see something like this.", "We learned about this in law school. Aside from everything the other posters have replied to you saying, McDonalds was intentionally making their coffee hotter than it needed to be to prevent people from obtaining more free refills. It was a business decision that put their customers in danger to try and save money.", "> My assumption is that it would not disfigure me if I got some coffee on me. \n\nAnd that is a bad assumption. Anyone who drinks tea is fully aware of how hot and dangerous water is when its used to make tea. Why are coffee drinkers so negligent in their handling of their beverage?", "Hope he has an insurance company with some moral capacity.", "> McDonald's admitted that its coffee was not fit for consumption because it could cause scalding injuries to the mouth and throat\n\nSo by your logic, every place that serves tea also has tea not fit for consumption? Sorry, but it just sounds like coffee drinkers are negligent AF and don't take any personal responsibility or precautions.", "When will you capitalist pigs learn. Soon the superior Nation of Canada will strike and you will enter a socialist utopia. We will force feed you poutine until you are full or not interested in eating it and then the queen well said that it was not until after the fact that genocide was not a robo rally for me to be a part quote and it is to be shitty and put in a way Triangle to make sure you have a good game and I only make it fun and I can do it on a regular 😀😊😉☺😄🙂😀", "And for every frivolous case there is an awful case of medical abuse.\n\nI recall one person that had a consultation who was an aggrieved widow. The doctor who was performing surgery on her husband made a very questionable decision that ended up resulting in his death. The doctor was extremely apologetic and sympathetic with the woman, who decided not to sue. She didn’t receive any medical bills and was certain the doctor had waived them. \n\nExactly one year and one day later, she gets a bill for $235,000 and threats of collection. She gets taken to court and loses. Why? Because in our state the statute of limitations for personal injury is one year and the statute of limitations for contract claims is 5. They waited until she couldn’t file a claim before they attempted to collect from her. \n\nThis is why you always make a claim if you or a loved one is injured during a procedure, no matter how sympathetic the doctor has been. Their lawyers will do everything to screw you over, so you need to move first to protect yourself.", "Maybe it is just the uploader expressing how they felt about it.", "As I started my statement with, there is certainly a reason to have malpractice law. Whether your case in question is relevant or not is unclear.\n\nAssuming the physician actually made a questionable decision and there was malpractice involved then yes, she should have sued.\n\nThat said, a bad outcome does not necessarily equal malpractice. If you have 8 million comorbidities, a 90% chance of dying if we perform surgery and a 100% chance of dying if we don't, that person will frequently go to the OR. Most of the time, they will die. That does not mean that malpractice was committed. That means that the surgeon gave you the best possible chance and the odds were stacked against you from the beginning.\n\nThe problem with our medicolegal society is that in the case above, a huge number of surgeons will never agree to take the patient to the operating room as the patient is almost certainly going to die anyway. This effectively condemns the patient to death because of the fact that there is such a high probability of getting sued because of advice like what you gave above of \"sue first, ask questions later.\"", "The sooner every one of us peasants in the world learn that we are locked in a class war similar to, if not worse than, the Gilded age the quicker we can get out of this hell.", "Your missing the part where McDonalds was intentionally overheating the coffee. The boiling water cools down when it mixes with the powder and since it takes time to brew it cools down then too. McDonals was intentionally heating the coffee in storage to keep it hotter than it should have been. You can keep saying “drink obviously hot because boiled” all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that they were serving a drink significantly hotter than it should have been served.", "It's also sometimes the only way to get your medical bills paid, as in the case of the \"worst Aunt ever\" who \"sued her nephew for hugging her\". Her wrist was severely broken and she needed multiple surgeries to fix it. She had to sue to get the home owner's insurance to pay for it, and they couldn't be named as the defendant. Yet if you Google \"worst Aunt ever\" her story still comes up.", "I'd rather actually get mediocre treatment than live sort of near fantastic treatment that I can't afford.", "> airbags will not help much.\n\nWorse than that, airbags go off extremely violently, by the nature of what they need to accomplish. [They can be very dangerous to firefighters](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SeXolkr6qY).\n\nSo yea, if you slump over your wheel, your seatbelt is extended far enough that it loses most of its usefulness, but more importantly, you're going to take the full blast of the airbag straight to the chest. Those things are designed to close the distance between you and the steering wheel in fractions of a second, so yea, I'm not surprised she broke 5 ribs if she was in contact with the wheel when the airbag went off.", "Tell me you absolutely don't know the actual facts surrounding this case without actually telling me you don't know the actual facts around this case.", "[Do some reading so you can come back less retarded.](https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts#:~:text=In%201992%2C%2079%2Dyear%2D,for%20the%20burns%20she%20suffered.&text=The%20coffee%20was%20not%20just%20%E2%80%9Chot%2C%E2%80%9D%20but%20dangerously%20hot.)", "No, not by \"my logic\", by the trial testimony of McDonald's quality assurance manager. If you'd bothered to actually read the article I linked to, you would have read this:\n\n>Q: If customers attempt to swallow that coffee, isn’t it a fact that it will scald their throat or esophagus?\n\n>A: Yes, under those conditions, if they could get the coffee in their throat, that could happen, yes. …\n\n>Q: So … when somebody buys a cup of coffee and it’s sold to them at McDonald’s and they go to sit down and drink it in less than five minutes, it’s not fit for consumption to drink, if consumption means to drink? …\n\n>A: It’s perfectly fit to open the top and add cream and sugar and really dilute the product as far as temperature goes and it probably would be very fit for consumption …\n\n>Q: If you don’t mind getting burned it’s fit for consumption. My question is, is it fit to be drunk, actually fluid going down your esophagus?\n\n>A: I think I already answered that. \n\n>Q: And the answer is no, it’s not, isn’t it? \n\n>A: Yes, we answered that.\n\nI notice you ignored my question about where you got your information that \"the appellate court was skeptical of the jury deciding that she was barely liable despite her actions during oral arguments\". Can you please provide a source for that? Or did you make it up?", "So what would you do for background music? Something upbeat? Imagine Dragons maybe? Ohh, how about metal, some Dio? That would show how metal he was for stopping the car. Or how about none? Just the sound from inside the guys car? That's entertaining.", "Yeah it all depends on the crumple of vehicles in the collision and the direction of the force. If the front of the ill person's car failed to absorb the force of the impact well by crumpling, more force is delivered to the occupants.\n\nI was in a 60mph (total) collision where both vehicles crumpled crumpled the engine bay and or deflected the force vector downwards well enough so that there were no injuries.", "Well, I provided the math. I don't know how hot you serve tea, but coffee is generally around 150 degrees F. That's hot, but not melt your labia together hot.", ">Of course you need a dashcam on your cars with laws like that or fraudsters can just slam on their breaks in front of you to cause an accident that you’ll be found at fault for.\n\nDashcams are forbidden in some countries like Germany... because you are not allowed to film persons. In Germany, you have \"das Recht am eigenen Bild\" or badly translated: \"the right of your own picture\". \n\nIt is part of our constitution (Basic Law) and protects your personal rights. It gives the person depicted (i.e. you) the right to determine how a picture or film recording is used. You can also object to publication. \nThat is why, for example, no photos of arrested persons are published in Germany, because it would violate their personal rights. However, there are exceptions. If a criminal is on the run and he or she poses a massive danger (e.g. rapist or murderer), then the public's right to information is more important than the criminal's right of data protection. However, if he or she has been caught, the mugshot must be removed from the public eye. \nA typical example of the application of this right is the following: A journalist wants to convict the boss of a company of fraud. The journalist goes incognito to the company and talks to the boss. The boss tells him how he cheated Grandma Pasulke out of €10,000. The journalist posts the secretly recorded video on YouTube. In doing so, the journalist is liable to prosecution, as the boss does not know that he has been recorded. Because a) it is forbidden to publish the video recording without making it unrecognisable. It is b) even forbidden to make voice recordings without prior warning. \nThat's why you always see a scene on German TV where the face has been pixelated away and the conversation is read out as a \"memory transcript\". \nAnd now another example: tourists! You visit Berlin and take photos... like me walking across the street. Then you publish the photo on Reddit. That would make you practically liable to prosecution. However, if you take a photo of, for example, the Brandenburg Gate and I walk past it the second you take the picture and it is recognisable that the focus of the photo is not me but the Brandenburg Gate, then this regulation does not apply either. Or if the picture is of \"historical significance\" (me walking by while a demonstration takes place in the background). \nSimply running a dashcam is not part of this... at least not in principle. If, for example, you run the dashcam the whole time you need to drive 10 km from your house to work, that would be forbidden because there is no reason to film (accidents are still an exception). \nBut: If you leave the dashcam running without permission and an accident happens, these recordings can be used as evidence in court, even if they are in fact illegal. The Federal Court of Justice has ruled that the unlawfulness of the collection of evidence does not generally lead to a ban on the use of evidence. However, this must be clarified in each individual case", "[Austin Powers has entered the chart.]", "Ironically large corporations are usually the ones with the frivolous lawsuits", "I love when people say bullshit like this.\n\nLike no, insurance companies over here are still insurance companies, they're not tripping over themselves to hand out more money than they are legally required to.", "Possibly since i hit deer at about 40 and that took out even a front strut... but it was like nothing from in the car.\n\nThat begs the question was it her airbag that went off and broke her ribs....a guy i know had his explode in his face and he inhaled the residue and it permanently scarred his lungs.", "That's true with almost any area of law. The American Medical Association just runs a very effective PR campaign which makes it seem like all the med mal suits are frivolous. Which also lead to tort reform. Which also lead to people like Dr. Death.", "Jeez man some people just cant keep it in their pants", "What is the point of this stupid comment?\n\nFirefighters often have to cut vehicles to save the occupants. Airbags can go off during that process. That can injury firefighters, or the occupants. Airbags can be dangerous.", ">always direct a single person to call ASAP\n\nShit, everyone here is married! Who’s gonna call 911?", "Risky thing to do in the US, the family would sue the guy for sure lol", "Good point, if she was slumped over the steering wheel, her ribs could have taken the full force of the airbag going off.", "Not 2-3 times. More than 700 times according to the [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants) on the case.", "Would it have been possible for the front driver to decelerate to the speed of the car with the unconscious driver? Seems like he took quite a bump.", "Mine was [\"YOU did this!\"](https://i.imgur.com/aCgkniy.jpeg)", "Almost every single American city is quite affordable on a global basis. [Rank by price to income ratio or affordability index](https://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/rankings_current.jsp) and you will see that American cities absolutely dominate the rankings.\n\nEven US cities that are considered \"ultra expensive\" like NYC, San Fran, San Diego, LA, are more affordable (often times far more affordable) than Western European or other developed countries (Australia, Canada, NZ) main cities real estate. Again by affordability I'm speaking to the price as a comparison to incomes in the area.\n\nFor example, NYC is relatively unaffordable with a ratio of 10x median household income for a median property. Until you look at some European Capitals (or major cities) like Lisbon (18x), Paris (20x), Warsaw (18x), Prague (18x), Rome (17x), Munich (16x), etc etc. Property ownership for average citizens in these places is utter fantasy. In America, you have plenty of options where housing doesn't even cost 3x median salary (about 40 cities, by the above source), and even buying in the expensive areas is more achievable than in many developed countries.\n\n[UBS bubble index](https://www.ubs.com/global/en/wealth-management/insights/2021/global-real-estate-bubble-index.html) would be another good way to look at it. American major cities are considered far less overvalued than many countries major cities (Canada, Germany, HK, Australia, Switzerland, etc.). Now consider that in many of these overpriced countries you often only have 1-5 large metro areas, all of which are expensive (ie no options, you're stuck). In the USA, you have 35 large metros (2m+ pop), some of them which are downright cheap (ots of options).\n\nI also reject the notion that you have to live in a very expensive city in the USA to have opportunities. Cities like Chicago, Phoenix, Charlotte, Raleigh, Salt Lake City all have more affordable real estate options while having very strong economies and plenty of opportunity. They all have some of the highest purchasing power in the world (another thing that American's really don't appreciate, but this post is too long to further dwelve into that).", "Hero", "US lawsuits seems the logical consequence of the healthcare system.\n\nI read an example of a guy commiting suicide by jumping in front of a train. One woman was seriously injured by the projected bone fragments (yuck).\n\nShe was a huge bill for surgery not covered by insurance, so sued the one responsible , i.e. the estate of the dead man. \n\nWhat else was she supposed to do without universal healthcare ?", "None.", "Wow! So cool! Amazing! I'm glad that guy was there to do that. That could've ended really badly. I hope the unwell guy is okay and getting better.", "Dude stopped his car to save her which is amazing, but in the description of the follow-up interview video, it says the hero's car had to be towed away after so dash-cam guy gave him a ride home, and it turns out they were old friends from 25 years prior! What a reunion. What a fuckin insane moment, and cool little internet treasure cache with a little extra digging.", "Mine's Mia Kalifa getting her asshole stuffed by two guys at once." ]	348	videos	Man stops a car with his own car to save a driver that got unwell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmXG46V38jw	/r/videos/comments/qyu03m/somebody_explain_this_fashion/	[ "It’s the Sealy show happens once a year in Milan", "The Silly Show!", "It’s not fashion. It’s delusional trash. It’s delusional trash.", "It’s a fashion show which is just another form of an art show so literally anything goes as long as it’s wearable.\n\nUsually the “clothing” is just to demonstrate the designer’s style and clothing line and get attention. Nobody is ever gonna wear that shit but people will probably talk about it which was the point.\n\nWhether they can successfully get a deal with companies or clients is another story altogether.", "It’s for prostitutes that offer curb service", "Yeah, I feel I would ignore a designer all together if they wasted my time with something like that.", "How dare anyone clap at this.", "Don’t sleep on this", "This is peak fashion", "That's a dude wearing a bed. What's not to get?", "mugatu is at it again!!!", "Someone once explained to me that these designer choices are supposed to represent the extreme of the vision that ultimately makes it to market. I.e. this bed clothing would be paired down to a puffy pillow like collar on a regular shirt. It's just scaled way up for effect of \"vision\". \n\n\nI thought that made a lot of sense when I read it. I don't know the validity of it though. I would guess that \"bell bottoms\" were probably HUGE in the show when they debuted and were scaled down to something people would wear.", "Track's a banger: [Tarlabasi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GETpbvzAAS4)", "It isn't intended to be wearable. Like, imagine making a sculpture that someone could put on and walk around in. Would you expect someone to try to sell it to the public en mass as clothing? Of course not. That's not the point. \n\nIt's a gallery art piece that's worn by someone as a display. \n\nRunway isn't necessarily like...catalogue runway. IE, clothing designed to be clothing. A lot of it is art shows, and frankly, they're the much more fun and entertaining ones to watch. Watching people walk around in just regular ass jeans isn't all that interesting.\n\nYou wouldn't go to the theatre to watch people just look and act like regular people. The point is to see something heightened and engaging." ]	14	videos	Somebody explain this fashion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsz71luPVuE	/r/videos/comments/qyuehy/til_that_michael_mckean_is_not_only_charles/	[ "I loved both of these performances separately and never made the connection until just now.", "How did you not realise this?", "I guess I never watched the two close enough together to make the connection myself and there are 30+ years between the two. I also watched BCS a couple years after it started and not being American I didn't see any of the interviews McKean gave when the show came out (where it was of course one of the first things people mentioned).", "Lenny", "He also played Lenny on Laverne and Shirley.", "Want a bigger trip, go back to Michael McKean on “Laverne and Shirley” where he played Lenny.", "I would probably feel more strongly about this post if I wasn't under heavy sedation.", "David St Hubbins > Charles McGill", "He also was a cast member on SNL. Played the FBI agent on The Coneheads movie.", ">I'm sure I'd feel worse if I wasn't under such heavy sedation.", "He was also Mr. Green in Clue and that weird-ass clown in an episode of Stsr Trek Voyager", "Should also check out the movie Used Cars.\n\n[](https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2018/05/robs-car-movie-review-used-cars-1980-2018-05-15_12-46-18_926029-960x542.png)\nhttps://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2018/05/robs-car-movie-review-used-cars-1980-2018-05-15_12-46-18_926029-960x542.png", "you cant unsee IT????????????", "He and Christopher Guest and Harry Shearer (also in Spinal Tap) have this thing with mock-docs…\n\nThis same group of actors make so many amazing mockumentaries together… Eugene levy and Catherine O’Hara are usually with them… A Mighty Wind, Best in Show, Waiting for Guffman… Some of my fave films!", "Drat.", "OK Enough of this I am apparently too old to stay subscribed to this sub.\n\nStay fresh cheese puffs", "TIL actors play different people in different things", " Great episode", "Yeah, he's been a working actor for decades. He's in tons of movies and TV", "Actors age. Huh, TIL and can’t unlearn", "The bigger shock for me was that one actor, Christopher Guest, portrayed both Nigel Tufnel in Spinal Tap and Count Rugen, the six fingered man, in The Princess Bride. \"It's like how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black.\" \"I've just sucked one year of your life away. Tell me, how do you feel?\"", "Maybe it's because it was before my time or because it wasn't popular in Germany, but I have never seen or heard of this show outside maybe it being referenced in more recent pop culture.", "I'm so old if people don't know why Michael McKean is famous", "Til an actor had multiple roles over the course of their career.", "Have you heard of Happy Days? Laverne and Shirley as a spinoff of Happy Days \\[as was Mork and Mindy, but that's another story\\]. Originally the two were dates for Fonzie and Ritchie \\[played by the creator of Happy Days' real life sister, Penny Marshall, and Kate Hudon's stepmom Cindy Williams \\[who co-starred with 'Ritchie' in American Graffiti\\]\\].\n\nThe only appeared in one episode, but since Garry Marshall had juice with the network and it was his sister, he came up with a sitcom narrative for them as roommates who worked at a bottling plant \\[Milwaukee, famous for beer\\].\n\nAnyway back to McKean. He and David Lander were Lenny and Squiggy, two horney but odd dudes who always showed up to hit on the two girls. The beta version of Seinfeld's Kramer, with the audience reactions to their entrances, and the goofy personas.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIIRC - there were a couple years there where it was the most popular show on network TV \\[which was the only TV at the time\\].", "Idk, maybe it's cos I never IMDB'd him but I wass surprised he's been in so many movies I've seen since a kid.\n\nJust learned Will Sasso was in best of show haha and the five finger man was in that too ahhhhh it's all connected", "> Lenny and Squiggy, two horney but odd dudes who always showed up to hit on the two girls.\n\nAnd lived upstairs in the same building.", "Did you know Justin Timberlake once ripped off Janet Jacksons clothes on stage, exposing a nipple?", "SAY IT AINT SO!??!?!?", "He also only has one ball.", "This must be a mistake. David St. Hubbins is a real guy, from the real band Spinal Tap." ]	32	videos	TIL that Michael McKean is not only Charles McGill in "Better Call Saul", but also David St. Hubbins in "This Is Spinal Tap" and now I can't unsee it
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qyuu9g/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qyuu9g/deleted_by_user/	[ "Fake", "I laughed out loud when a mountain biker abandons the fastest mode of transportation available to him because of a tiny branch that even my fat ass might be able to bunny hop over. And then laughed again when he ran 30 feet away to hide behind a tiny ass tree and peeked out and the bear is just like \"aww shucks, guess I lose this time.\" \n\nThe editing was decent enough, but the guy should have created a better premise for a climax. If you're gonna get off a bike to run away from a creature that can run faster than you, you had better make me believe in that reason", "Yeah after watching it twice you can see the bear is photoshopped in. The lighting is off and the bear is too bright.", "Branch not big enough to justify leaving path. Can't hide from a bear behind a tree. This makes no sense, and the CGI is meh.", "Funny.", "Difficult to pedal that fast with all that poop in your bike shorts." ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hag6HeBCysE&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qyvge8/a_short_clip_of_something_im_working_on/	[ "You created Clone High?", "No, it's for something that has nothing to do with Clone High.", "Nice! Waiting to see it completed. Your 1st like there is mine 😊" ]	3	videos	A short clip of something i'm working on.
https://youtu.be/m1dzQtRNwDU	/r/videos/comments/qyviam/unbelievable_ch53_a2a_refueling_with_heavy_payload/	[ "I wouldn’t call that exactly “heavy” for that monster", "wasp sticker", "Almost looks fake", "Insert pornography sounds", "/r/helicopters", "Straw sucking noises", "Exactly. 6000 lbs isn’t a heavy sling load for a 53E. The hook is rated for 36,000 lbs.", "Humans. \n'Look at the unbelievable beauty and sophistication of a hummingbird'\n\n'What a great idea to keep our death ships flying longer'", "Ok, but what if the Humvee is out of fuel also", "For a moment I thought the windshield wipers were on in the Humvee", "Obviously not the Navy variant (CH v. MH)", "Freud would dig this.", "\"What are you doing step-helicopter?!\"", "I don't believe it." ]	14	videos	Unbelievable CH53 A2A Refueling with heavy Payload
https://youtu.be/sAwdnnEtjxg	/r/videos/comments/qyvlds/bumper_kart_gets_slammed_from_behind_just_see/	[ "This was hilarious", "This is not a bumper car. This is a go-kart. Not meant to be used this way.", "Can I get my 14 seconds back?" ]	3	videos	Bumper Kart Gets Slammed From Behind… Just See What Happens To The Guy In The Other Kart
https://youtu.be/F3eP4K5Yt-I	/r/videos/comments/qyvnch/skyrim_survival_mode/	[ "Bear grylls drinking urine😒🥂", "bruh", "Mate, it's 'Don't eat the yellow snow', it says nothing about the white snow.", "https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/apr85xW/aYJB3r74\\_700w\\_0.jpg", "Try eating a wheel of cheese", "you know, I have wondered why bear grills never put his own urine through a makeshift filter first.. Just sand and charcoal bruh", "Lol, that's gross", "It's because he likes the taste.", "The pond behind him makes it ggat much greater" ]	9	videos	Skyrim Survival Mode
https://youtu.be/M7q49PCgL4M	/r/videos/comments/qywggy/this_lady_has_a_blast_playing_the_bass_line_to/	[ "She’s great.\n\nI enjoyed that.", "I can’t remember who sampled that.\n\n\nGangstarr?", "Snoop and Tupac", "Thought of 'Gz And Hustlas' from Snoop right away", "Is this Claypool?", "...no", "SnOoP", "\"This lady\" – FYI she was Beyoncé's bassist and musical director ;)" ]	8	videos	This lady has a blast playing the bass line to the cult classic funk song "Haboglabotribin"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuIBRDVrn54	/r/videos/comments/qywlnw/singapore_infinity_escalator_slow_walk_around_and/	[ "some people are so easily entertained by the dumbest shit", "I have never seen a curved escalator, pretty darn interesting. Have you?", "It’s just an escalator with a curve, neat seeing it for the first time, but this video is a waste of life", "I skipped to near the end because I thought there'd be no way there's an entire 10 minutes dedicated to this.\n\nI was wrong." ]	4	videos	Singapore infinity escalator \| slow walk: around and around on a curved escalator [10:12]
https://youtu.be/6FtPvDGrpkA	/r/videos/comments/qyxp48/dead_internet_theory_2/	[ "TIL Only you can see my post. Everyone else sees something different.", "true this is.\n\nit got smaller.\n\nthere maybe websites out there which are still awesome and unique.\n\nbut u'll never get there because there are roadblocks everywhere.\n\nand u simply don't know the de-route.\n\nno wonder its become boring.", "Yeah, at least there's one positive aspect in all this: it's way easier to experience the real world when you don't have much to do online. \n\nMaybe when the pandemic ceases, we are gonna have a new wave of human socialization.", "ugh! me hates the real world. \n\nthanks for finding this video though..", "It's because of a few factors. \n\n1.) Most of the older online communities ran into a few different, but all similar scenarios. Their userbase drifted onto larger websites, or their userbase intersected with a larger website so all of the content on one could be found at the other. Or a website's userbase simple dwindled down until it was no longer sustainable. \n\n2.) Almost all of the internet's hosting has migrated to gigantic content delivery services. Not everything was transferred over in this process (and this actually happened around 2011-2016 as well). With that, new rules for your content being hosted on these CDNs were put in place, so a lot of stuff had to go. \n\n3.) Those who didn't migrate to a CDN, simply lost the data to time. I mean heck, I started an online community in 2011, got our first server in 2014, and since then we've had several hardware failures that've resulted in some amount of data being lost. Heck even today, I had some weird issue where two of my drives got corrupted. \n\n4.) The Deep Web is fucking gigantic and it's where the \"real\" internet is. It's all of the uncached/unindexed stuff is. Going back to the community I run, technically it's on the Deep Web, because you can't search for it. You need the actual link to our community to find us. (I prefer to keep it this way as well, since I don't like people kicking the box, it's fragile and unstable as it is.)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThe dead internet theory does hold some weight, but not because the internet is empty. More so, the internet has vast, barren wastelands. Everybody moved to the big cities, to so to say, earn a living, and stay alive. Equate the internet to the United States in Cyberpunk. There are vast cities run by megacorps, where most of the people are, but outside of them is a mostly empty sandbox.", "give us a link, babe!", "Eh it's just our teamspeak, and whatever games we host now, the website has been defunct since 2018 I think. Currently the box isn't running anything since I'm still torn between switching from Windows to a Unix based OS." ]	8	videos	Dead Internet Theory 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2W9YVkkn9U&t=3s	/r/videos/comments/qyxxug/metas_first_commercial/	[ "Please keep this out of my life.", "Creepy as hell, right down to the royalty-free non offensive generic remixed version of Prodigy and/or Basement Jaxx. Did their AI produce this song based on the query \"What makes zoomers bop\"?", "Sweet Baby Ray’s!", "So that's what a twerking flamingo would look like.. hmm.. never wondered that. Fuck Facebook." ]	4	videos	Meta's first commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1d3lIcuEMU	/r/videos/comments/qyyd56/the_moment_the_realisation_sets_in/	[ "The cartoon was ironicaly named after the poet, can you think of any other Homers?", "Homer Hickam", "Former Cincinnati Reds pitcher Homer Bailey", "Homer E. A. Dick, New York state senator.\n\n(And also possible fellatio enthusiast?)", "Homer Simpson was named after creator Matt Groening's father Homer Groening. But maybe his father was named after the classical Homer.", "Homer, he's the dude that Babe Ruth made famous.", "So your claim that Homer Simpson was named for the poet is true because you can't think of any other Homers?", "If you're not aware of it then it doesn't exist! \n\n&#x200B;\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer\\_(name)", "D’oh", "I was on that show, and it aired last year. \n\nI was passed a question at that stage about the main character in Matrix. You're encouraged to explain to your answer and why you know it, so on my high horse I rambled on about the first film being great and the sequels were less so, to give the answer confident as you like \"neo\". \n\nThey were looking for Morpheus. My friends still laugh at me lol\n\nEDIT - a couple of people have asked so here is the Question I was asked: It was like something like \"what main character from the Matrix name comes from the Greek for dream\" - or words to that affect. \n\nI just heard the word MAIN and ran with Neo.", "D'oh!", "I just learned that Grandpa Abe was also named after Matt's grandpa Abraham.", "Yeah that was my thinking too, but I couldn't be arsed writing out the full question but I might as well now. It was like something like \"what main character from the Matrix name comes from the Greek for dream\" - or words to that affect. I just heard the word MAIN and ran with Neo.", "Do you remember the exact question they asked? Because how is Neo not the main character of \"The Matrix\"?", "Yeah, unless the question had some other info like was referred to as the world's most dangerous man, ran the ship, etc, if the question was \"the\" main character it was Mr. Anderson / Neo.", "Oof, I would absolutely be haunted by it if I jumped the gun like that, rip dude", "I've edited my OP", "Yeah man I was cocky as fuck given it the big film review answer lol", "I was picking the card for the turn in a game of Apples to Apples and came across “Rope Burns” and was like who the heck is he? (Thinking of Mr.Burns) we all had a good laugh." ]	19	videos	The moment the realisation sets in...
https://youtu.be/LvSrKtPZ--g	/r/videos/comments/qyyfe1/thomas_mancino_commander_of_the_oklahoma_national/	[ "George Washington would have the man shot.", "There was a time when insubordinate soldiers were shot. Now everyone wants a fucking medal for something.", "What in the redneck hillbilly science denying fuck", "Aww he isn’t a good sheep! Doesn’t work out so well when part of what’s supposed to be an apolitical organization.", "Traitor…send him to Leavenworth for a few years, see how much fun breaking big rocks into Little Rock’s is.", "They should make these idiots write down what was in every shot you ever got while in the military. See how they do.", "He is no resistance leader he is just following orders from the governor. He is over national guard and when not deploy by the feds they answer to their state governor.", "does national guard count as serving?\n\nedit: just watching the video.. jeez they are all so fat.. what do they do on tour? make sure no food waste goes to the enemy?", "Unless they're called up nationally, he follows the orders of his state governor. He's not happy with how things are going, but he is legally required to follow the existing chain of command, and currently, the top level is the governor of his state." ]	9	videos	Thomas Mancino: Commander of the Oklahoma National Guard and the leader of the COVID vaccine resistance.
https://youtu.be/wR4KGRHbD_s	/r/videos/comments/qyyjib/should_men_wear_crop_tops/	[ "Yes!", "What would be the point?", "Maybe that anywhere a man is able to show his nipples a woman should be able to do the same.\n\nSo if women are forced to cover up a man should be.\n\nOr, if men can be topless in am area a woman should be able to do the same.", "Free the nips!", "The dude in the thumbnail absolutely should.", "Only if trans", "No." ]	7	videos	Should men wear crop tops?
https://youtu.be/W2OipwJ56vs	/r/videos/comments/qyyxor/english_power_station_boiler_and_two_chimney/	[ "Thanks for sharing.. great post", "Thanks! I’ve been binging their channel and was caught by surprise just how awesome this footage was. Glad you enjoyed it too!", "I’m kind of surprised they made the towers fall sideways, rather than into the other building. I’m sure there’s a reason, I’m not an explosive demolition guy. But wouldn’t it make cleanup a little easier with a smaller rubble footprint?", "Weeeee free asbestos for the whole town!", "Pretty good, but why is there no modern day Fred Dibnah walking away from the explosions real slow while honking a horn?", "The drone footage was awesome and unexpected…but I could never see the drone again. \n\nGreat post.", "I would assume it would be for one of the following:\n\n-\tthe towers might be covered in chemicals that need sorting differently to the rest of the rubble and mixing them together is just making more work\n-\tif the explosives in the building fail to detonate for any reason you don’t then need to send someone into a partially collapsed building to fix/correct/retrieve them\n\nThese guesses are based on no information what so ever.", "I would take those as real answers regardless. Well done!", "Great video - Too bad they didn't get it from more angles!", "Interesting that the stacks both broke in similar place on the way down.", "What Fun!\n\nIt's a pity that they couldn't be left up as memories of an industrial era, there are quite a few structures in Britain that nobody cared about at the time which are missed now. \n\nI expect they'd be too dangerous to be left standing.", "I noticed that as well. Definitely sort of interesting.", "Nice", "> I’ve been binging their channel\n\nOoooh, fun, a company youtube channel. Looks like I've got something to do for the next few hours.", "They must have edited the drone out, I could not see it flying in its flight path in any of the angled shots. pretty cool shots though.", "No boilers in this video. The building that was destroyed was the turbine house. The boilers would have been between the stacks and the building and was most likely cut apart for scrap before this.", "Both stacks had there entry holes on that side. Big hole in the side means less explosives needed means cheaper.", "or... there were big holes in that side already and it was the cheapest side to drop to.", "I wonder why there is a short 2-3s delay from when the det cord goes off and the charges detonate. \n\nIt's like the det cord sets off some sort of delay device at each charge. \n\nDoesn't make sense to me because I would have figured that the det cord would have done a better job of synchronizing all of the charges than a bunch of delay devices.\n\nI wonder if there's a problem with using det cord to initiate the main charges directly because the main charges could disrupt the det cord elsewhere if debris from a main charge were to fly off and bust the det cord before it propagated to a charge that was further away.\n\nMaybe by using an intentional delay at every main charge you get every charge reliably ticking away all initiated by the det cord.", "I understand why the want to demolish the towers, but it seems like the buildings nearby would be harder to clean up after the explosions than if they were left intact.\n\nIn any case, these guys seem like they know what they were doing - I wonder if they were involved in 9/11! :O /s", "I know this was controlled, but my grandad used to work at a power plant that had a stack fall. He was lucky he wasn't around it when it fell.", "Thank god this video isn't an hour long. I would need to watch the whole thing. Mesmerizing.", "Fred Dibnah would have done a better job.", "The man, the legend", "First thing that came to mind. \n\nExplosives? Bah. \n\n[Hammer, some tyres, and a lighter should do it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L1WOnR2KBY&t=2s)\n\nWhat a guy.", "Both had a seam about halfway up which was under tension as they fell. Concrete is extremely weak under tension and could not transmit enough force to keep the tops attached.", "As an audio person, great job on the sound recording. It’s kind of hard to guess what levels to set for something like this…fortunately new recorders are 32 bits, so you can set the gain really low so as not to distort, and still have a usable recording.", "Check out their channel. I watched at least an hour worth of demolitions last night lol", "More slomo replays than match of the day. Great job 👌", "The chimneys where still chimning while falling down.", "To add a timestamp, just add &t=58s (or &t=0m58s) to the end of the URL\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2OipwJ56vs&t=58s", "Can't wait until they blow up the one near me. It's been an eyesore all my life, and by the time it comes down, it will have thrown over half a billion tonnes of CO₂ into the air.\n\nIt'll be the last coal power station left in the UK, iirc.", "so slight tangent on that second point, I wonder how the possibility of unexploded charges is handled during the cleanup of this", "Dammit Simpson, what did you do", "I know nothing about it, but I really hope it involves more explosives.", "the solution is simple: blow it up again.", "I'm gonna go with the towers might have been too tall to go that way. There might have been something they would have hit behind the building.", "Thats a lot of asbestos", "The massive watermark killed it for me.", "I see. I didn't see the seem; I'm sure there was little to no rebar in there.", "All fun and games until a bus rolls up and blocks the drone shot", "So the hired the worst drone pilot huh?", "A quick google tells me demolitions use series of explosions strategically to weaken key structural elements and then bring the whole thing down. Guessing that’s what the first round of blasts were, not the det cord going off early", "I sneezed.", "Drones can be pretty small.", "Feel like the FPV pilot wasn't quite ready. haha", "thats a lot of dust", "Bolton's finest.", "Some awesome camera angles there. I love the drone footage. I need more of those drone demolitions videos now.", "I really enjoyed that video", "Sad channels are destroying whole buildings just for likes.", "Neat!\nDrone video is so epic!", "It looks like the first explosions on the building were to weaken floor joists or something? and then the main load bearing pillars get a stronger explosion.\n\nNot sure though, know next to nothing about how this is done but I did see a lot of steel which I'm surprised was so easily weakened, relatively speaking.", " r/Demolitionporn" ]	54	videos	English power station, boiler, and two chimney stacks controlled demolition – Drone flys through site during explosive demolition (0:58 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9rzG-D554c	/r/videos/comments/qyza5j/crazy_driving_fire_truck/	[ "What's crazy is the people still trying to go through the intersection", "Drive fast bro 🤙", "Hamilton things." ]	3	videos	crazy driving fire truck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kggWc9dFs9E	/r/videos/comments/qyzbsj/metallica_changes_their_planned_song_at_the_last/	[ "What song is it?", "Last caress by the misfits", "Thanks I was gonna say doesn’t sound like any Metallica song I ever heard", "I think you’ll love the Garage Inc. cover album. It’s so cool to hear the Metallica twist on so many different kinds of songs.", "If you like this check out the Garage Inc. album they did. Amazing covers from start to finish.", "I can't understand what he's singing", "The first song is\n\nhttps://genius.com/Misfits-last-caress-lyrics\n\nSecond song is Metallica - So What\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_What%3F_(Anti-Nowhere_League_song)", "They just cover So What. The song is by Anti-Nowhere League, as it even says in the link you have :p", "That went about as well as the time BBC Radio asked Rage Against The Machine not to curse during a song that features the line \"fuck you, I won't do what you tell me.\"\n\nhttps://youtu.be/AmPN8MPw2dk -- @4:30", "~~I still remember the time half the band was heavily involved in suing their fans over file sharing. Fuck Metallica... Greedy pricks. I take no issue with them wanting to protect their works but they focused on the little guys and not the file-sharing site/programs.~~ I was wrong.", "Am I remembering wrong that they did go after Napster, and only listed names for proof of their songs being downloaded in such a massive fashion and just to ban those users from Napster. Where is it that the users of napster got sued by metallica?\n\n[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica\\_v.\\_Napster,\\_Inc.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica_v._Napster,_Inc.)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: It doesn't mean they are not greedy, but it sounds like they did exactly what you suggested. You are claiming their lives were ruined because they got banned from napster and couldn't log into it without a registry edit?", "[Metallica v. Napster, Inc.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica_v._Napster,_Inc.) \n \n >Metallica, et al. v. Napster, Inc. was a 2000 U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California case that focused on copyright infringement, racketeering, and unlawful use of digital audio interface devices. Metallica vs.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Hmmm, I learned something. It was that they unmasked users that got banned when they sued Napster. So I retract my wrong statement.", "So Greenday? No thanks", "L", "Both songs were covers, It was about being asked not to swear. \n1). Misfits - Last Caress \n2). Anti-Nowhere League - So What", "I respect that you admitted you were wrong but didn’t double down and argue, or delete and pretend it didn’t exist. \n\nHonestly, I think a lot of arguments could be solved if people weren’t afraid to admit they’re wrong or made a mistake. \n\nUpvote for you.", "Thank you. Have a space point back in return.", "It may not have been as bad as you are saying, but Metallica's reaction to Napster [was still cheesy as fuck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQc0x5E9jOc).", "I thought that fuck you part was added BECAUSE they asked them not to swear.", "I still say fuck Metallica. But I think it's mostly Lars that steers the band the wrong way. I seen a photo that said if you could go back in time, what would you fix. And it was Lars and Cliff changing spots on the bus.", "That whiskey in the jar cover is way better than it deserves to be.", "They're both from Garage inc - Metallica's double album of covers. I doubt anyone's under any illusion that they're Metallica originals..", "their", "the bbc radio people been like \"yeeeeeeah sooooo management asked that yall dont curse in the recording wink wink would be a shame if you saved that for the end of the recording where youd totally surprise and shock us by cursing anyway winkwinkwink so we could tell management we had absolutely no idea youd start cursing there winkwinkwinkwink \"", "I wanted to say a bunch of mean stuff but that would not be very nice.. but honestly how dare you say that?", "No that's just the lyrics to the song.", "I was expecting damage inc.", "He didn't even include the \"motherfuckaaaa\" at the end, I say he restrained himself well enough.", "The analogy doesnt even work, but yeah that is \"you wouldnt dowload a car\" levels of bad.", "You would be surprised, I enjoy their version of whiskey in the jar, I have had so many people ask why someone covered their song and made it less heavy", "They used to be, ala Kill em All and Ride the Lightning to a smaller degree.", "Glen and Jerry wants their check now.", "Trash is punk and metal after mixing.", "Metallica gets a bad rep due to the Napster incident but that wasn't their fault and people need to learn the whole story first.\n\nThe cool thing about Metallica is that even though they were a metal band, they dug punk rock. One of the coolest things to me is seeing a picture of James Hetfield wearing an early [SNFU t shirt](https://soundsreasonable.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/james-hetfield-wearing-snfu-shirt/). SNFU was a local to me fairly obscure punk band who kicked ass. [RIP CHI PIG](https://youtu.be/-xNCgCo5Kj4)\n\nMetallica got big because they were a good band, and because of piracy.\n\nPeople would record copies of their albums for their friends and they got big because of word of mouth marketing. They were selling out stadiums well before they ever got mainstream radio play. Most of their money came from merch sales.\n\nWith the Napster thing, people need to realize that the music industry is run by Sony, Warner, and Universal and the RIAA is a lobby group designed to protect those companies. Someone 'leaked' Metallica's unfinished album online then they told Lars that people were ripping them off. He got suckered into being a lobby front man for corporate labels who wanted to kill Napster because it was a digital platform that allowed people to distribute music for free. This was before they teamed up with companies like Apple to control online music distribution.", "Sony music (and entertainment) is a god damn blight on society", "I was in a local nightclub and this was playing live on a big screen in the back room. \nboth me and my mate were gobsmacked when we saw them doing these songs. \nIt was hilarious. Same year that James Hetfield changed simply red's door sign to simply dreadful", "Bruno Brooks played the song uncensored in 93 when it first charted on the radio one chart show. Radio 1 has a long history of not giving a fuck and apologising after instead of asking permission.", "But Sony also made the PlayStation and the OG SpiderMan so it balances out.", "Not sure you can really talk about people being dicks when you say shit like that tbh.", "I'm not denying it.", "Such badassess..." ]	42	videos	Metallica changes their planned song at the last minute after MTV Music Awards asked them not to swear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmOPuOoPwew	/r/videos/comments/qyzcnp/our_driving_video_in_iceland_when_there_was_a/	[ "Terrifying. I would be feeling that if we ran out of gas or broke down, we would literally die.", "Oh yeah. We were lucky that gas was full. So one less headache. Nevertheless it was a scary experience for us", "Wow 🤙", "😊", "This just happens when you drive over the glaciers too.", "I haven't tried that. Sounds exciting" ]	6	videos	Our driving video in Iceland when there was a winter Storm. This was back in January 2020. Terrified and enjoyed at the same time as Iceland is beautify even in storms.
https://youtu.be/8mHRFTlO2Uc	/r/videos/comments/qz1399/the_gamer_and_the_cool_kid/	[ "I downloaded this free on the switch and played it straight through lockdown, for like two weeks, and haven't touched it since.", "Great channel, not so great video considering it’s an ad", "ads can't be good though?" ]	3	videos	The gamer and the cool kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtY4PM_on6g	/r/videos/comments/qz19vi/why_are_so_many_supercars_abandoned_in_dubais/	[ "I don't know, video. Why?", "It’s my fault. Sorry about that.", "No middle east Chop shops?!", "I didn't click on the link but the answer is probably debtors prison.", "yes but no", "goes a bit deeper than that!", "Okay then what is it?" ]	7	videos	Why Are So Many Supercars Abandoned in Dubai’s Deserts?
https://youtu.be/IXFT-Pee_Ck	/r/videos/comments/qz1bkj/emilia_hartford_is_the_competent_version_of/	[ "Emelia Hartford*", "I used to watch her channel, but the more I watched, the less I liked her and her content. Very clickbait material instead of substance in my opinion.", "That's how I feel towards SCB...look at this impressive car and then focus on these cosmetic baubles and have nonrral technical understanding of it and then maybe drive it around at idle speed", "Is she the one that blew the engine on almost every car she owned?" ]	4	videos	Emilia Hartford is the competent version of SuperCarBlondie and doesn't get enough love
https://youtu.be/WxtE8xUWuJk	/r/videos/comments/qz1r0o/meatcanyon_the_last_pringle/	[ "MeatCanyon is a true jewel of the internet. His Bob the Builder vid will live rent free in my mind for the rest of my life.", "Meatcanyons videos are often too weird to be creepy/scary IMO.\n\nThe DBZ no country for old men video was pretty good.", "Clearly you haven't seen his SpongeBob video", "I’ve seen them all. Bob the Builder is more than just a creepy video. It’s heartbreaking and beautiful.", "That one will always creep me out the most. Or the Ed, Edd, and Eddie ones.", "Good night to everyone except to OP for posting this vid.", "wtf did i just watch?", "It’s so… fucking… good…", "And not one of them considered it an advertisement. \n\n\nExcellent. 😏", "\"Was it good for you, Mr Krabs?\"", "[you will regret that purchase…](https://youtu.be/gGEv54rLvgs)", "So true! For me, it's the Ed, Edd and Eddy ones. \n\n\"my truth, is retribution\"", "\"Existence is behind you now Kevin. Enjoy the silence.\"", "The most uncomfortable one is the regular show one imo" ]	14	videos	MeatCanyon - The Last Pringle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpgsITqoDXQ	/r/videos/comments/qz22u9/making_film_reveal_its_image_the_bw_development/	[ "This will date me, but darkroom was one of my favorite things I learned in high school.", "Well now I'm curious! I took a photography class in Highschool when I was in 10th grade and the darkroom was definitely a highlight for me, I thought it was so cool. This was back in 2008!", "This would have been mid-late 90s. Surprised darkroom was still around in 08.", "It definitely is still a thing in highschools today.", "Nice work" ]	5	videos	Making Film Reveal its Image: the B&W Development Process
https://youtu.be/saiZefjF4PM	/r/videos/comments/qz32za/cardano_founder_we_live_in_a_post_trust_universe/	[ "Wow I had this guy all wrong", "Meaning?", "Stories written about him were that he’s a dimwit, con artist, and addict. But hearing him changed my perspective.", "I highly suggest you watch the podcast with Lex Fridman, one of my favorite !", "I saw a lot of media that cardano is a scam. With the crypto environment looking for the next 10,000% gain, I see him as a valued member that has suffered.", "that podcast and the Chainlink founder Sergey Nasarov's interview on Lex Fridman are both topnotch. These dudes can see the future", "TLDW, (although it is worth a watch if you care about Crypto at all)\n\nCharles clearly believes in his vision for Cardano. He views decentralized blockchain technology as an essential and inevitable step for global society to finally guarantee a level playing field. The Cardano haters on twitter and YouTube don’t see the importance of his research and are just shills looking for instant gratification by pumping shitty alt-coins with cute dog faces on them.\n\nHe asks the viewer, what’s the point of living if you’re not willing to put in the hard work to make society better? Cardano isn’t about fast profits, it’s about building a stable system that will outlast all of the others." ]	8	videos	Cardano founder: we live in a post trust universe
https://twitter.com/ITV/status/1462518771864805377?t=xklyEa6k4IEvCZcGp_MlfQ&s=09	/r/videos/comments/qz3rn1/adeles_old_school_teacher_surprises_her/	[ "Imagine if when asked who her inspiration was as a child, it wasn't this teacher LMAO", "Reminds me of Ian Wright [meeting](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omPdemwaNzQ) his teacher. Love that clip", "Side note: When I first started seeing Alan Carr on some programs I wasn't really a fan, but god-damn it, he's really quite endearing.", "I'd like to think she was the lucky one mentioned amongst a crowd full of every mentor she ever had in the audience who was invited just in case ;).", "Love how to down to earth and relatable Adele is, doesn't appear to see herself above anyone else or let being famous get to her.", "So bloody cool", "I think maybe the questions came across her desk as a review beforehand so she knew about the question, just not that the teacher would be in attendance? I'm thinking maybe she was suspicious they would do this, still wouldn't negate the honest emotions we see or the power of the moment when it came." ]	7	videos	Adele's old school teacher surprises her
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7gbN87tJw&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qz3uvi/how_to_not_fry_your_turkey_this_thanksgiving/	[ "Aside from the English, who would boil an entire turkey?", "someone who wants to eat delicious turkey and not the usual bland dry mess that most people produce for thanksgiving?\n\nif you have the setup to do it, it is absolutely worth it", "Wait wait wait... Are you arguing in favour of boiling (which implies in water) or deep frying in oil?", "deep frying in oil obviously, guess it was a reply to the comment before yours", "Mmmm, deep fried turkey!" ]	5	videos	How to NOT fry your turkey this Thanksgiving!
https://youtu.be/ajh9e3PDAOc	/r/videos/comments/qz41gi/battlefield_2077/	[ "The games fun", "The game is a shambles.", "yeah, fun to laugh at", "They actually released it at that state, did they? That's smart business decision.", "I am looking forward to the game coming out of early access in summer of 2022.", "I learned my lesson with the launch of Battlefield 4. Never bought a game at launch again.\n\n>\"Upon release, Battlefield 4 was riddled with major technical bugs, glitches and crashes across all platforms.\" [snip] \"Because of the widespread bugs and glitches that were present, EA became the target of multiple law firms. \" [snip] \"In October 2014, nearly a full year after the official release with major updates still being put out, DICE LA producer David Sirland said the company acknowledged that the release of Battlefield 4 \"absolutely\" damaged the trust of the franchise's fanbase.\" - [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_4#Technical_issues_and_legal_troubles)", "Ah man I was not ready for the body at the 3:00 minute mark.", "The mechanics creeper noises had me laughing", "I got my refund. Having fun playing Halo instead.", "There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Battlefool me once, shame on... shame on you. Battlefool me—you can't get Battlefooled again.", "The scraping as the body drags itself along the ground is just the icing on this bug infested cake.", "But there will always be newer generations of gamers who haven't learned that lesson yet, and so the companies can keep doing this without much repercussions.", "Always wait a year before you play an EA/DICE game.. people are still beta testing it basically for $60.", "Did they get paid? Fuck yeah smart decision :clown:", "The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different bugs. \n\nAs for cost, we selected the initial price of $60 based upon data from other unfinished games we published and you paid for anyway. Among other things, we're looking at average earnings on a daily basis, and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players give us every last bit of their savings. \nWe appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on Reddit, our forums and across numerous social media outlets. \n\nOur team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can. \n\n~EACommunityTeam xoxoxo", "And?", "I’m so tired of getting hype for games and them being complete shit, and wasting money. Cyberpunk, fallout 6 etc.\n\nEdit far cry 6 :/", "Cyberpunk 2077 was supposed to begin new era of gaming. It did, just not how we thought it would. Be careful what you wish for.", "I remember seeing the trailer and having two thoughts: 1. How the hell are they going to get that to work on the average gamer's systems? and 2. This game is going to take years to develop, I'm surprised they'd even tease a game this early in development after the disasters of things like Anthem and Cyberpunk. \n\nWhen I heard the game was out I was surprised it was released already, I didn't pay attention to the release date or anything so I thought it would come out in like 2024. But, I see how they were able to address my two problems I lister earlier. Just release the game in a completely broke state. Who cares? We'll still make money and we can move on to the next scam. That seems the general state of big studio games now.", "The series peaked at BF3 imo.", "[ Jump to 03:00 @ Battlefield 2077](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajh9e3PDAOc&t=0h3m0s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: videogamedunkey, Video Popularity: 99.27%, Video Length: [03:33])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajh9e3PDAOc&t=0h2m55s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "2/3 were godly.", "Ngl I think bugs like this are fucking hilarious and part of the charm! But I grew up playing bethesda games. ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯ \nThat said, I haven’t bought Bf2042 because it doesn’t have any single player campaign.", "Bad company 2 Vietnam was peak battlefield", "Can't battlefool a battlefooler", "Yup. That's why Star Citizen will never be released.\n\nThey already made their $600m, and have zero incentive to finish it.\n\nIt's up there with Enron, in terms of ponzi schemes.", "‘Why are gamers so negative about the current industry of gaming!?!?’", "I thought it was supposed to sound like a skateboard.", "Halos dope as fuck. Nothing fancy just solid fuckin gameplay and it’s running great. Some people want more rewards and shit but I just want to play the actual game like I want to play chess or basketball. The core experience is chefs kiss", "I dont get why there isnt any authority that has gone after game companies knowingly shipping broken products or misleading in advertising. If car companies were doing it authorities would go after them. I dont know if this game is bad enough to qualify for that, but there certainly have been games in the past that had misleading advertising or were knowingly sold essentially broken. State AG's sue other businesses all the time for defective products and deceptive practices.", "They were probably making cheese and choloates at the same time and taking too many hiking breaks!", "I haven't experienced any of that. 2 server crashes in 2 individual matches, that's all.", "the maps aren't even the same as they are in the videos. It's a completely different game", "Well, I've been enjoying halo as well, but the servers have been pretty bad for that game too. De sync and rubber banding.\nEdit* it's not entirely bad though, especially since it launched early in a surprise beta. Halo is the best fps launch this year imo", "Gotta disagree there. BF4 did have a rocky launch (all of them for some reason (Dice)) but it turned out to be a great game.", "Rockstar really deserves a class action lawsuit just for the repeated fuckery what with how most of their 'bugs' involve people not getting paid correctly. All the while they sell shark cards. There is literally a conflict of interest that they made themselves and we'd be dumb to think they're ever in a hurry to make things right.", "Shroud is actually streaming right now trying to pretend to enjoy it", "Messed up cars can very well lead to deaths. A buggy game doesn't do that aside from major circumstances with, say, epilepsy or issues of that nature. No government cares about video games unless it involves gambling or something to support their argument that they lead to violence.", "except Star Citizen is actually getting stuff added into it.\n\nIt's just that the scope is stupidly massive. It's gonna be one of those neverending games like Minecraft\n\nEdit: I've seen this comment go to -5, then 3, now -8. I don't think I've ever had a comment this polarizing lol. At least make some counterargument so I can learn why I'm wrong, dammit", "Easily one of the worst games to be made this year. It goes beyond cyberpunk. DICE released this and genuinely thought that what they were doing was ok to have people pay for.", "I played an entire game the other day where nobody could see me but I could still kill the other team. We dominated 😂.", "Don't forget the furniture!", "Honestly it plays fine on my 8 year old PC with a Vega 64 and 4770k at 1080.", "You can play star citizen right now homie it's come a long way", "The difference is bf4 had a ton of bugs with launch, but the core game was good and had a lot of content. This is 10x worse than that from a bug perspective, and the game itself feels lackluster.", "It's certainly come a way, but a long way? Nahhh let's not kid ourselves here.", "If they've ever agreed to a Rockstar EULA then their users have waived class action rights. Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision about 10 years ago allowed companies to to write class action waivers in contracts and now most contracts have them in them. Was a partisan decision, every Republican on the court voted to allow companies to write away class action rights in contracts, every Democrat judge dissented.", "When's the release date", "The bugs are few and far between. Things have actually gotten much better (especially with regards to server stability and getting into games) since day 1 of the early access release. The day 1 patch was pretty small, but they say a significant one is coming within a month I think.\n\nStill hilarious to look at, but the game is far less broken than CP2077 was, and even BF4's initial launch years ago, both of which I also played on day 1.", "Battlefield always looks more fun than it actually is, at least in the last 6 or so years. The trailers are all these elaborate set pieces where 64+ people are coordinated doing sim style gameplay. You never get any of that in the actual game.", "Cyberpunk 2077 was a pretty good game. I know others suffered through bugs but I was lucky enough to have minimal bugs when I played it.", "I mean it's a long time. Does that count?", "You know it’s a terrible game when donsley doesn’t even have to tell me why the game is bad, and just shows me gameplay.", "I miss BF 2142.", "\"play\", sure. Play? Naw", "Authorities have gone after car companies before for non safety related issues.", "What about 2142? I loved the titan gametype where you had to control missle silos that took down the shields on giant airships that you then had to fly onto to overrun", "Shit when did fallout 6 come out!??", "Just keeps going faster and faster.", "Comparing cyberpunk 2077 to BF2042 is hilarious. At least BF is playable on console.", "They’ve been releasing games in this state since bf3. Ain’t nothin new", "It's a free play event right now. Go try it and see for yourself.", "I had the one where my bullets didn't do damage/hit enemies and the other one where you cannot redeploy", "You're wrong, but that's okay. We don't want you in the verse anyway", "Lol when the guy just starts rolling and doesn't stop.", "I really liked BF1, the WW1 setting is so unique", "It's 2077, those aren't glitches, they're Canon to the game. We have technology to phase through matter", "Sorry about that, I swear I threw that cursed monkey's paw out", "It all started going downhill after Battlefield One. BF4’s launch was a mess, Hardline seems to be a split opinion depending on who you ask but BF1? I thought they did a great job capturing the spirit of the era while still feeling like Battlefield. BFV (although it got better over time) sure as shit as a sign of things to come and I had tempered my expectations going into the reveal for 2042 for that reason. But the reveal looked great but at the same time; I didn’t think it’d be this bad.", "Buying a game at launch this day and age is so unwise. \n\nWhich is sad but whatever, I'm gonna go play 24/7 Metro on BF3 now lmao.", "Having not played Halo since CE with my neighbors when I was 22, I'm surprised at how much fun I'm having. I thought I'd be put off at the high TTK. \n\nWith Battlefield basically a non starter for me (sadly), this and Horizon 5 are keeping me plenty busy.", "BF2 on PC was so fucking broken that the reticle didn't line up with where your gun was actually aiming. There was an aim hack essentially that just corrected it because it was never patched. I have never since played a game where people give you links to a hack to fix the game. BF has always been riddled with issues but it seems to get worse with every new release.", "EULA is barely a contract, though.", "Halo Infinite is damn solid on launch. I can see myself playing it for a long time. No idea why people would spend $60 on a broken game when there's stuff like Halo, Deeprock Galactic, etc. available to play for less, or for free. Shit, I hate battle royales, but at least Warzone and Apex are technically competent.", "Why the f did I buy this game?", "I can't believe I preordered it. I'm a fucking idiot. NEVER again", "I had a lot of fun with BF4 and BF1, BFV was the one I skipped after not really feeling the beta. But 4 and 1 had a ton of potential for those \"Battlefield Moments\" in matches that weren't complete stomps because the teams were massively imbalanced. \nI had some hopes for 2042, but as it looks now I'll probably give it a try in february or march with the 10h trial and decide then.", "People actually paid for this hahahahahahahaha...", "No triple A game will ever come out polished and ready lol I think it's time people realize that until useless execs are removed from games.", "uhhhhh I doubt this very much.", "Minecraft is actually a complete game and had its full release over 10 years ago though.", "I honestly haven’t seen like any of those issue and I’m somewhere over 20 hours in.", "If any game is compared to Cyperpunk, regardless of how wrong the comparison is, it means it isn't worth a nickel of anyone's money. A game released before being polished to a certain degree is nothing more than a scam.", "Your memory is off. Core gameplay was massively fucked for BF4. The game was completely reworked. Not saying the same is possible for 2042, but it as also very fucked.", ">If any game is compared to Cyperpunk, regardless of how wrong the comparison is, it means it isn't worth a nickel of anyone's money.\n\nWh... what? What?\n\nBF2042 has some bugs. Not anywhere near as many game-breaking bugs as CP2077 launched with. And what you just said makes actually zero sense.", "Atleast bf3 bugs like the longneck was hilarious.", "that ending got me good", "I think they just meant that it’s gonna be like how Minecraft is, which is contestant changing and being updated. It’s okay if it never really gets a “release”. As long as there is something to play and people are having fun, I don’t see what the harm is.", "Anyone who preorders anything deserves to be fucked by the end result", "BF4 is looked back at very fondly now. Yes, its launch was a disaster but they turned it around and made it a great game.", "Yeah but a car is a physical item unlike a game.", "It's fun though.", "I honestly love the game but the glitch where you cant choose your load outs in game is pissing me off. Like I spend all this time unlocking stuff and building load outs, then when I get in a game they are all gone?", "Try it again now and let me know what you think.", "I'm just hoping for more maps on halo. It's a beta at the moment so it definitely will have more at full release. Though I've played a lot this past week", "Sure, he gets paid for that. Wouldn´t go to Shroud for an honest opinion. Would rather go to ChocoTaco for that. Maybe Pestily. They might still have fun, but will also point out the obvious.", "I mean that happens to all games when they reach their end of life. But back when it was actively supported the game was great.", "But your point was about misleading advertisements and/or \"buggy\"/incomplete cars. There isn't a single governmental body on the planet that cares that a video game has bugs or has misleading advertising. Bugs happen and are damn near unavoidable. I'll concede that there are more than there should be for 2042, but still unavoidable. If no one is going to go after Hello Games and the shitshow No Mans Sky was (and is a lot better now) then they won't go after EA/DICE.", "can somebody combine this with the Battlefield theme on blockflute", "This video looks like this 'game' is an unplayable pile.of shit", "It's only when you revisit a game, you realise how good or bad it really was.", "It's been a long road... getting from there to here...", "So disappointing. Can anyone recommend a similar style of multi-player shooter with progression that doesn't suck? That's dependable? Vehicles are not a must for me.", "Ah just like he convinces himself the changes in New World are also “fun”.\n\nI too would “enjoy” playing these games if I was getting paid by the devs to play it.", "You're revisiting a game that is five years past its lifespan. Of course it's going to be a bad experience.", "I assure you, it is far from unplayable. The bugs shown in the video are very rare, if you ever experience one of them at all.\n\nI'm not saying the game is without flaws. It needs some fixes for sure. But it is absolutely not unplayable.", ">summer of 2022.\n\nOptimistic", "If only we got a frostbite powered 2142 remake instead. That shit would have been amazing.", "I played it when it released, gave up on it at the time because I thought it was really bad.. I found it to be the worst of the series at the time, and still do.", ">I dont get why there isnt any government authority that has gone after game companies knowingly shipping broken products or misleading in advertising.\n\n\n\nDecisions are made by those who show up.\n\n\n\nHow many gamers do you think are representing in Congress?", ">The bugs are few and far between. Things have actually gotten much better (especially with regards to server stability and getting into games) since day 1 of the early access release. The day 1 patch was pretty small, but they say a significant one is coming within a month I think.\n\nOh good, I was afraid that yet another unfinished, unpolished game was released for $60 - $100+ to the public yet again wasn't gobbled up by gamers in droves, especially since this is the 3rd Battlefield game DICE has released in such a sorry state (out of the last 4 games).\n\nGood to know we're still defending this by softening the language so we don't hurt the fee-fees of people at EA/DICE for making millions off of broken products, something that 99% other consumer companies couldn't do unless they wanted to go immediately out of business.\n\nChrist gamers really are the dumbest bunch of consumers ever. \"Release broken games & I'll defend it with 'It's coming along, just you wait, it's gonna be awesome 6 to 8 months down the road!'\"", "They don’t give a shit omfg lol", "I'm just pointing out that Minecraft is a false equivalence, since it actually had a full release.", "Battlefield: Monty Python Edition.", "Fool me three times, fuck the peace signs. Load the chopper, let it clip through the ground", "I’ve played for around 8 hours and the game has far bigger problems then the occasional glitch found on Reddit. Maps are far too open, there are only like 20 guns and they still couldn’t balance them, weapon bloom, and the list goes on. I think there is an entire list of problems on the battlefield subreddit.", "Ok, well, it does. \n\nI’ve had a couple disconnects loading into a server but no crashes. The weirdest problem I had was I spawned in and my teammates saw me as an enemy. I was inside a defended point with like a quarter of our whole side, and it was hilarious. Everyone was looking at me, it was like The Birds.", "I was just laughing with my wife about the original quote this comes from.", "I bet DICE QA has a giant \"mission accomplished\" banner in their office as well", "If anyone is still curious about the game just pay for EA play pro for a month. $16 and you get the premium version of the game. Cancel after a month and you'll save yourself a ton of money. Even if you still want to own it just buy 2 months of pro then dump it and buy the game half price and still not lose anything.", ">Christ gamers really are the dumbest bunch of consumers ever. \"Release broken games & I'll defend it with 'It's coming along, just you wait, it's gonna be awesome 6 to 8 months down the road!'\"\n\nNice when did I say that?\n\nThe game is awesome right now. It's got some bugs, and I have faith that they will be fixed like DICE has done with every BF game launch I've played. The bugs that it does have do not significantly impact the play experience such as with other games like specifically CP2077 where it was actually impossible to even progress through the story or even experience large parts of the game.\n\nPeople who get their opinions off social media and think everyone else is \"the dumbest bunch\" are actually braindead.", "Holy fucking shit this had me crying laughing oh my fucking god. Amazing.", "I think companies putting out rushed, unfinished games was happening often enough before Cyberpunk.", "That’s fair! \n\nTotal side note, but I feel like “full release” is kind of bullshit at this point. Like, Dayz had a “full release” and it’s still kinda broken. I feel like at this point that a full release if a marketing tactic to make people buy as they think it will be fixed. (I am definitely not talking about Minecraft in this case, as the full release happened many many years before this tactic was adopted). I just find it interesting.", "This really needs the /s at the end.\n\n...or are we to the point that people don't remember the WW1/WW2 glut?\n\nedited to provide both of the world war settings, since they were both done to death a while back.", "'This game really makes you FEEEL like you’re playing an EA game'", "This makes me think the whole video games industry should just take the rest of the 20's off and think about what it's done", "For some reason it always seems like the enemy has a lower ttk against me than I them... 😂 It can't be my gameplay....", "Cyberpunk doesnt deserve its rep. It was unpolished at release but its an incredible game. People memed about it so hard they never gave it a chance and missed one of the best games Ive ever played. Game had a passion behind it.\n\nNew Vegas was the same, and now its a classic.", "100%. Basically unenforceable garbage, the average person would have to spend a month out of every year reading EULAs to actually understand. It's possible to waive your right to a class action lawsuit, but any decent law firm going after Rockstar would tear through the EULA like tissue paper on their way to the payout.\n\nEdit: May possibly work depending on the jurisdiction actually, but waiving the right to a class action goes both ways and nobody wants to get sued 30,000 times in Small Claims court.", "As a huuuge Battlefield fan, this pains me... but it's still pretty hilarious even if it's horribly sad the game was released in this state", "Doesn’t matter. People will buy it and like it and buy the other one when it comes out lol.", "# NEVER PRE-ORDER! 🙌", "This video is a compilation of bugs and glitches that was intended to be funny. If you want to actually see what the game looks like, maybe watch an actual gameplay video.", "Dunkey tends to do that. It's a funny video, but the state of the game is far from dire.", "Eh, experience varied on cyberpunk. It played amazing for me.", "I preordered it after I had a blast in the beta. Turns out that every other map is not nearly as fun as Orbital, maps like Hourglass are literally half sand, half buildings. There's a map which is basically just shipping containers placed around the place, which is the go to for lazy map developers nowadays. The graphics are pretty much the same as BF4 but with a blue filter to indicate how futuristic it is, I guess. There were two maps I couldn't even experience due to a \"persistance error\" and every game I tried to play my favourite operator Mackay, he was locked away. I refunded it after realizing I'd rather play Halo Infinite.", "I miss Vietnam...\n\nI used to play with a few buddies and one of them would always play Black Sabbath in the vehicles which was super rad when we could hear him coming.", "It gets like 3 features a year", "Well vehicles would be a public safety thing...\n\nClearly if they were a hazard to lives they would step in. \n\nVideo games are just video games. Do you want the government stepping in to tell you when the next big Christopher Nolan movie is a flop so you don't go to see it in theaters?\n\nIt's entertainment.", "Battlefield 1. Still a pretty strong community, beautiful visuals, and such a blast to play! Battlefield 4 is also still going strong and a great game too.", "He didn't even have to say anything in this video... Oh man. That's how you know it's bad.", "Even without the bugs, I thought it was shit. The combat was just awful. The backgrounds were meaningless. Tell me- have they fixed where police spawn yet, or is it still directly behind you?", "Yup. And it ended up being a pretty awesome game over time. I still play it now and again.", "Minecraft had more content when it was being developed by a single person than Star Citizen does now", "I haven't been a huge fan of Halo since H3, but after 10 hours of BF I tried Halo and was playing all night. I don't think I'll put a lot of time into it but it sure is more fun.", "I like multiplayer shooters with huge maps, big teams, objectives to contest, etc. And the only developer that makes fps games like that is EA. It's such a bummer.\n\nI was playing BF1 recently, and if you play on a DICE official server it's just hackers galore. They couldn't give any less of a shit.", "Ok", "Please... you simply.. must", "No, Enterprise! You had your time.", "lol Ty for scratching that itch. I read that Bush quote yesterday and was trying to remember if it was used in a Gang Starr or J. Cole song. and now I remember for sure (it's in a J. Cole song)", "It's the holidays so we'll get a lot more dunkey videos because the ad money. As long as it means more dunkey", "Halo dropping the free multi-player on struggling Battlefield and CoD is one of the coldest business moves in a while. Reminds me of when Blizzard timed the Overwatch beta release to smother Battleborn", "It’s not going to have any more at release. This “beta” is the full release of multiplayer.", "Dude that boat ramming a helicopter and destroying it, into the trailer telling you it's the beginning of the \"next Era\"? That's top tier content.", "Ww1 =/= ww2", "When some people say \"fine\" what they mean is 30fps average with dips into the teens", "> except Star Citizen is actually getting stuff added into it.\n\nSlowly. I think they're delaying one of the gameplay loops (salvaging) since 2016, IIRC. There's also endless reworking for a cafeteria scene in the singleplayer campaign.", ">We don't want you in the verse anyway\n\nYeah, only positive mentions of SC. Criticism isn't allowed", "You couldn't play BF4 for nearly a year after launch it was so broken. Great on DICE for actually sticking with it and making it better (its still one of the weakest installments in the franchise, IMO. BF3 and BF1 were better respectively, while BF2 and BC2 are the undisputed kings). \n\nBut that DICE isn't there anymore. I think the last of that breed died with BFV.", "It's not just the bugs. The game is unfinished.", "I mean, what the fuck! This is what Betas are for! Theres even Early Access if you want to make money early! \n\nWhy the fuck are distributors like Steam and Microsoft allowing them to get away with releasing unfinished shit like this?\n\nThey need to start pulling these games and making examples out of them so that they learn not to rush a release", "I unsubbed from r/pcgaming to avoid the negativity and now it's here. Fucking reddit sometimes.", "Which is why they liked the WW1 setting of BF1, since it wasn't the usual WW2 setting war game.", "I think Shroud actually plays New World for fun, given the length of time he has been playing it. You can tell when he's getting paid to promote when he plays a game for a week then never touches it again. Or maybe amazon just paid him a shitload to play the game for over a month.", "Yeah, full releases have become less meaningful as games as a service and updates have become more common. Which IMO makes it even more disappointing that Star Citizen is still nowhere near a full release in this environment after all these years lol.", "You're the first person I've heard mention this. My friends and I have had the smoothest experience at least so far. Pretty impressive for a surprise ftp game", "I'm... not the one that brought Minecraft up.", "I don't really agree. It's rep is well earned.", "Agreed. BF1 brought back the feeling of BF3, but I think the content and balance tweaks just rolled a bit too slow to keep momentum.", "I do like Shroud (though I rarely watch streams, just usually see youtube highlights) and for some reason I was bored and decided to go on twitch one day. Well he was playing the new Marvel Avengers game (I think it was launch day... maybe a day after?) and he's doing such... boring and repetitive stuff and you could tell he's not having fun.\n\nBut he says straight to the camera, \"I'm loving this game. I really think this is going to be the game I play for awhile.\"\n\nAnd as far as I know, he never went on again after that stream. His youtube even has ONE video on it (which again was from the stream I watched) and that was it. Not even a 10 minute youtube vid of him playing again. \n\nLooking through youtube right now... Theres literally almost 0 footage of him playing.\n\nBut I guarantee you him saying that line got A LOT of people to buy that game. And I get it, your being paid a shit ton... But... don't lie to your fans made up of a bunch of kids. They take that shit like gospel.", "I did not once encounter a bug that prevented progression. Oldschool PC gaming taught me that is the real thing to fear. Silly T poses from random NPCs dont really bother me.\n\nHow far did you get through it?", "Oh hell yeah, it's fun as hell don't get me wrong. I also bought the season pass for it too. But I'd say about 30-40% are unplayable due to server issues. It's not my internet either, since i play other online games without any problems.", "You can refund despite pre-order. I pre-ordered just to find out if my machine could run it or if I needed to upgrade before launch. Ran fine in beta for me, the actual release ran far worse and way more bugs in my own experience. Got refunded within 30 mins last night at steam", "I misread the 2042 annoucement and spent about a week thinking it was a 2142 remake. \n\nTalk about disappointment, back to BFV for me", "Say what you will, my experience with BF2042 has been awesome. A few bugs here and there that’ll be squashed in upcoming patches. But I’m having a blast and am looking forward to all the future content they dish out!", "Last one I played was BF2. At least it was a functional game but I just didn't like certain aspects like their bullet randomness.", "With all of my settings set to low I cannot get more than 15-20 FPS with dips into the single digits. I want to play the game to even get an idea of the problems that people are seeing, but I can't even do that.", "I got 2077 at launch for Xbox and yeah it was a disaster.\nAbout 3 months ago I downloaded it for PC and genuinely really enjoyed it. With a good PC the game can be fantastic.", "Also BF3 was practically unplayable that first week. The difference is that you could still jump into a single player campaign to keep your attention for a few days.\n\nDon't buy battlefield on release guys, wait for the first sale. I'm guessing we will see it in time for Christmas.", "dunkey got major crowbcat vibes here", "THE BUGS MAKE IT BETTER!!!!", "Yea, I played it PC so I didnt really have problems.\n\nWhat a reversal huh?", "The great War hasn't had that many games honestly. A bit difficult to make trench warfare exciting, so it's mostly niche simulation games that touch on that one.\n\nI hope you don't seriously want to lump ww1 and 2 into the same category tho, cause that would be really stupid.", "I am starting to question if I even want to upgrade my PC or be a gamer these days. The amazing titles vs the amount of trash these days are so few and far between. It's starting to feel like being a fan of a sports team who has disappointed you for decades. The management never changes (big developers), they constantly let you down(failed titles each year expecting things to change), and the big games they win are rare (just enough to give you a glimmer of hope). Not to mention I still can't get a PS5 so long after it's official release.", "I met a character called Jackie. Can't wait to see what the rest of the game does with him!", "I agree with you, I'm on my second playthrough, amazing world and story. The problem is that you have to have a nasa grade of to run it. Would have been a much better launch if they had just been honest with their base and said it's essentially this gens crysis.", "Hell, even BF1942 was buggy as hell at launch. Really no excuse to complain about getting burned by a Battlefield pre-order.\n\nTime will tell if they're going to put in work to try to redeem themselves, but I hope everyone who is feeling buyer's remorse right now learns from this.", "ONLY IN BATTLEFIELD! lol I made myself sad", "As angry as you might be about video game companies, there are far worse things happening that deserve the government’s finite resources.", ">But there will always be newer generations of gamers who haven't learned that lesson yet.\n\nThat's me! I never bought/played BF4 until 2016/2017, and it was a great game. I never knew it had such troubles at launch.", "Yeah, I put close to 200 hours into it just to get a full opinon, and bugs and even expectations aside, it was mediocre at best. Just a felt like an empty, half finished game.", "> When I heard the game was out I was surprised it was released already\n\nAnd this is after they delayed the release by a month. They knew this was gonna be a shitshow half a year ago.", "People need to stop giving money for products that absolutely do not deserve it. EA and Dice have some of the deepest pockets in the industry, they do no deserve a pass when it comes to releasing bug ridden games (or having shitty practices). These companies are just taking advantage of people who do not understand the idea of meaningful spending. These people of weak constitution do not think about how hard they worked for that $60 and how spending it on poor quality only emboldens a shitty, wealthy publisher/dev studio. Thus we get EA, CD Projekt, Bethesda Game Studios, etc, pushing for releases despite the bugs, betting that the bad press is short term. The Battlefield franchise has had a terrible rep for releases for a long time now, and they clearly do not care.\n\nIt really takes us reasonably minded people to repeat this often to our friends and across communities. It will never reach 0 but we could put a dent in some of this. Vote with your wallet, stop spending money on broken shit just to be part of a trending topic. What glitters is not always gold, etc. etc.", "i mean... what else is going on? spend all fucking day inside anyway and winter is coming. \n\ni don't care about the bugs. my complaint is that the gameplay is just boring.", "Same, it's the only Battlefield game I play nowadays. \n\nIs it objectively the best Battlefield game? Probably not, but it's the best Battlefield for me.", "the clip at 2:02 is why this game got a refund from me", "Oof that sucks. Try the command to show fps, I think it's \"perfoverlay.drawfps 1\" in the console, it'll show the FPS based on GPU and CPU. Mine consistently shows the CPU getting about 1/3 of what the GPU is able to pump out. That might help narrow down any bottlenecks", "You didnt get far then huh? \n\nJackie was great. I love the way they portrayed his anxiety during the hiest briefing, small details like his restless leg.", "I mean, I’m on PS5. I’ve had very few glitches, and actually, I’m still enjoying it. It’s not up there with 3 or 4, but I’m having loads of fun!", "Eh, I make the demarcation between modern and non-modern warfare games.\n\nI'm aware there's a ton of asshurt CoD fanboys out to make the distinction, so I'm prepared for the downvotes lol.", "My mind is blown away by how many reviews look like this:\n\n\"I liked the beta so I just up and bought the ultimate edition for 120 dollars\"\n\nYou did what?", "There are a still a ton of people playing BF4, it's an amazing game\n\nAnd if you want a modern era battlefield, it completely shits on bf2042", "BF4 had a pretty rough release as well...", "I knew this was a dunkey before clicking it by the title haha", "“I must go, my people need me.”", "Never pre-order. Always wait for reviews by people you can trust. Applies to everything.\n\nGames especially, major publishers just do not give a shit about you, just want your money.", "Didn't realise they got Amazon Game Studios to do the dev work for this release.", "It feels like this is a yearly, if not more often, tradition for video games. In any case, I think video games have been stagnated for a while now. It's the same shit over and over again, and people still go ape shit for it.", "New ships that cost tons of money? See SC clips come up every few months and it's hilarious the state it's still in", "Sneaking behind enemy lines as a recon, to plant a spawn point and roll full squad up the back was incredible.\n2142 was so close to a perfect game", "Recommend riders republic too. If you like extreme sports at all.", "For real? Which one?", "I'm not talking about your average buggy game, but ones that are egregious enough in technical issues that impacts ability to play that they could be considered \"broken\". BF4 for me was literally unplayable just using the PS4.", "He has a contract with twitch…owned by Amazon.\n\n100% he’s getting paid to play this game. And he’s probably having a significantly easier time grinding because he’s being force fed mats by slaves I mean fans in his server to level skills so he only has to worry about combat stuff and watermark grinding.\n\nHis experience is VASTLY different from the average player.", "The battle pass shit is entirely unacceptable though, 343 can fuck right off with that.", "Aaaah good ol Dunkey", "Why preorder a game in this day and age honestly? It's not like you can't get a copy like back in the day", "So happy I cancelled my preorder the day before it released. CoD Vanguard is actually a great game and I’m much happier I spent my money on that. I think they did a great job. The sounds and the weapons attachments are great. And the game modes are awesome", "I'll have to check that out.", "im sorry, but that airboat flying through the air to kill the heli is something id actually expect to be in the game", "Nope launching with the 11 maps we have, no forge till this time next year eaither so we're probably stick with what we got", "Wouldn't be much of a cursed monkey's paw if you could get rid of it so easy.", "Coming from Destiny 2 competitive PVP, Halo has a very long TTK in comparison. It's quite relaxing and allows room for error.", "It was nuts how that gametype goes from wide open outside with so many vehicles to the cramped corridors in the titans where it turns into tug of war with trying to push your team through.", "To find \"non-modern\" warfare games you'd basically have to go back to Napoleonic war games. WW1 was the first modern war.", "Not defending EA or DICE because the game was bugged through Alpha, Beta, Early Access and is still bugged at release. But... most people don't experience these issues. The clips in the video aren't Dunkey's, they're just what has been flying around Reddit/YouTube/Twitter compiled into this.", "Honestly the police just felt pointless. They were hyper aggressive and fairly strong and never ending, but never did anything to stop the small time violence on the almost empty streets", "No Role Modelz - j cole", "Third times a charm in my case. I’ll wait a few months before buying my next new game", "Skillup is also really good.", "What defines a full release?", "Eh? There were massive bugs and balance changes but the systems and gameplay were pretty much the same. What do you mean by \"core gameplay\" and \"completely reworked\"?", "I'm 50 hours in. Enjoying being \"fucked\"", "Its pretty bad if you at all expected to be able to play a role instead of their on rails storytelling", "Right, how could someone whose last game was in 2003 let us down?", "As a person who has played it since release I can attest that the main multiplayer experience is a soulless bastardization of battlefield that has combined a specialist system no one wanted with a map design built for battle royals games leaving each match feeling empty and devoid of meaningful experiences \n\nHazard zone was a complete waste of time and resources and is another failed attempt at the battle Royal genre that a desire for has long since passed \n\nThe only saving grace of the game is portal which is still a lesser version of the games it’s allowing you to play as they are now limited by battlefield 2042’s awful movement, at times questionable gunplay and plethora of bugs and net coding issues leaving you with a bad taste and wanting to play the base games provided rather than this mess \n\nYou are far better off playing battlefield 3, bad company 2 or battlefield V for a more content filled and bug free experience.\n\nEdit: speaking of which let’s try and get a mass revival of bad company 2 servers, I miss playing that game with a massive community.", "Y'all missed VR huh. Back to basics, actually having fun.\nI've seen this dragon chase year after year after year after year....", "If you’re outside of the usa servers are practically non existent", "Can someone calculate what percentage of all guns in the game was shown in that trailer? Must be high.", "a year!? Pffft.", "They did indeed fix that.", "Funny coincidence unless it was intentional. This song is widely known for its opening line which gets quoted often to which the response is: for real.", "I physically cringed reading this man. So sad lol.", "Experience All-out hero shooter microtransaction CASH GRAB! RIP Battlefield series. Boycott EA and DICE!", "[ Jump to 02:02 @ Battlefield 2077](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajh9e3PDAOc&t=0h2m2s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: videogamedunkey, Video Popularity: 99.20%, Video Length: [03:33])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajh9e3PDAOc&t=0h1m57s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Wrong", "Not going to lie. The best part of Battlefield 2042 is the trailer. And it was free too!", "Wow people have been fuxked over by early access and half finished games that they don't even believe in a \"full release\" game anymore lol. So sad. Nintendo games are pretty much good to go day 1 every time. Maybe a few bugs but nothing like these other games. It's wild your expectations are just so low and you even make excuses for them.", "that got me too, lmao", "I'm 50 hours in and only had the falling through the map bug once. Still having a ton of fun. The Internet is blowing this way out of proportion.", "I'm more surprised you expected it to be perfectly polished on launch day. Can you point to another example of that? \n\n\nI'm not going to boycott a fun game over minor bugs that most reasonable gamers would probably expect to see on day 1.", "You don't need a really new super powerful PC to enjoy CP77.. I have an older i7-4790k processor, 1070 GTX and I play at 1080p with almost everything on max and I have around 40-60 fps.. for example, RDR2 runs way worse on that same PC", "[Never forget](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/)", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjmjqlOPd6A", "Reminds me of [this gem from ten years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--O2AYpuRUU). \nSome things never change.", "Wait that's actually just high praise for the game's realism then.", "Damn, I know the song but somehow I totally forgot it includes that clip from Dubyuh.", "I remember playing the BFV open beta which was only a couple week ahead of their release date and thought to myself, \"There's no way this shit is going to get polished in just a couple of weeks\". I didn't look at it again until it was being given away for free on PS+ and it's a fantastic game now, but it took years for it to finally get there and that's a shame. The open beta for 2042 was enough for me to know it was gonna end up playing out the same way and I probably won't even bother looking at it for a couple of years.", "Apex has taken a year or two to get there, and it still has issues with balance and matchmaking. \n\nFor me those are critical in an online shooter, so after a year I finally got irritated enough to stop playing. \n\nI haven't played much of the new Halo, but seems fairly solid so far. And no one is ranked, so hard to tell on the matchmaking. But they've always been solid with that.", "You could play any one of a huge number of amazing games that have recently been released besides battlefield.", "Like what? I've been playing a lot of warzone. I like that game.", "I’m just glad I didn’t buy the game. I’ll wait until after christmas thanks. The sweaty boys can deal with guys glitching into the walls.", "Oh no, this was not an excuse but an observation. I don’t buy any game that just comes out because of the above issue. The only games that are not an issue with this are Nintendo (some times) and MOST indie devs. I say most because it is not all of them, as undertale, bastion, Pyre and many others when the released, they actually released. \n\nIt’s fuckin bullshit, but the only thing I can do is just not buy it. 🤷🏻‍♂️", "What? For a first-person RPG the combat is probably the best I have ever played in this genre.. guns are great looking, fun to use and you can mix between them how ever you want.. yeah, enemies, mainly at the start of the game are bullet sponges, but well it's an RPG, numbers are going always to play a role even in the combat department.. no one has a problem with enemy sponges in fantasy RPG games, but suddenly when you have a gun in a RPG, everyone wants to from the start hitting headshots like in a CoD or a Halo game.. the combat in all honesty is milion times better than in any Fallout game, Deus Ex game, Prey, Vampire Bloodlines or even the new Deathloop game", "Warzone has a massive hacking problem. Free to play means people aren’t afraid to cheat because they have nothing to lose.", "Uhh, BFV got significantly worse over time.", "This is the real complaint. I hardly experience any glitches. \n\n\nThere is a reason Dunky couldn't get his own clips.", "Good thing Halo multiplayer is free", "Lol you're probably right. Also my experience with New World lasted 30 seconds before the fucking game bricked my 3090 and I had to get a new one.", "How the fuck did you mix those two up", "That's what got me. The utter silence from Dunkey throughout is like a whole new level of condemnation", "I actually didn't notice the police thing till a good bit into the game.\n\nI think most people who semi-enjoyed 2077 played just the story. It was the open world stuff that was really lacking, and I know a lot of people who expected future GTA. To be fair, project red really leaned into that as well.", "Yeah sure it has its problems and was way overhyped but it was fun. 100+ hours of gameplay is worth the money. Wish it was bigger and more options but definitely had fun with it", "Didn't hold a candle to say, the combat from Mass Effect 2, and that game is, what, a decade old? The Last of Us Two also had significantly better combat.", "You put 200 hours into a mediocre game? I guess I can't judge. I play league of legends.", "If you're curious whether it's a playable game ATM then yes, this is a great opportunity to make up your own mind and not just go based on what others say about it.", "Has the Cutlass had its 100th redesign yet?", "If you're playing the game trying to get in police chases then you're playing in a way the game wasn't designed to be focused around. Sure, you can say that it would've been better to have that system fully developed, but it's hilariously wrong to say the combat is bad because the police system is bad. The game is not nor was ever going to be sci-fi GTA; it's a story-focused RPG before anything else.\n\nThe combat itself was fine, and the background actually have impact in dialogue choices in the game, even if not fleshed out to the extent many people desired. \n\nThis level of complaining about the game is honestly worse than the excessive hype itself, because at least people hyped for the game enjoyed it and were content to enjoy it. The detractors for the game who, rather than attacking the company managers and advertisers, attack the game itself, contribute nothing beneficial to the discussion other than loudly screaming to have their negative opinion be seen as fact.", "The first strand type battlefield game.", "Should have done what I did to Death Stranding. YouTube cut scenes to appreciate the story, and cut out the garbage. CP77 story was great, that’s it. The video game aspect was a major let down.", "VideoGameDunkey quote, slightly altered to fit the context", "It's 'let it rain on you'", "That's the Frostbite engine I remember. Truly next level.", "Launch out of the APC onto the Titan, get torn to shreds in the hallways.\n\nAahhh, good times.", "Battlefield just wrapped their WWII game up early after deciding to not have a D-Day map or add in the Soviet Union (No Stalingrad, PPSH or T-34)...\n\nNeedless to say I won't be wasting money on Battlefield ever again.", "Pfft QA definitely marked all these bugs, but fixing bugs doesn't make money. It's not QA's fault usually in these cases", "Titan is still, hands down, the best gameplay mode ever devised. It would have been even better with modern game physics/effects.", "Same fucking tissy-fit in Genshin Impact when people weren't getting the anniversary rewards they felt entitled to. I don't know why people want to get angry so much instead of just play and have fun.", "Glad I cancelled my pre order right after the beta. Why are all these games trying to out cyberpunk, cyberpunk.", "I've had no more glitches in game than any other similar game. I'd say it's exactly on par for every single battlefield launch. Anyone who says different hasn't played every single battlefield game at launch as I have.\n\nI got the game for free so I don't care but I do understand people being upset at buying the full price tame. Just a reminder for everyone, if you can't stand bugs, balance, and server issues, don't buy a battlefield game at launch, ever.", "They've pulled that since BF3.\n\nThere was a trailer regarding destruction (which they for some reason regressed in from BFBC2) that was a total bait.", "That's why one would hope as time goes on, those who do play games and end up having kids, actually teach/tell their kids what an actual good game looks like, and what to avoid... assuming they themselves aren't apart of the issue. Though, that's assuming governments don't actually step in at some point anyway, beyond predatory gambling practices.\n\nPre-orders? Stop.\n\nHalf-baked games that aren't either indie or stated early access? Stop it.\n\nPaying for mtxs in a paid game? (One $100 blue skin) Stop buying that shit.\n\nBattle Passes that barely reward anything, or strip content from the game? Just. Stop.\n\nAnd many other horrible practices.\n\n(The same goes for any shitty business practice for any other industry)", "Who else remembers digging through the map with C4 in BF3 on launch", "That was the start of it's decent. They removed destruction.", ">weapon bloom\n\nWhat does this mean?", "What do we think is happening? The team with all the Ivy League artists perfecting their work are spending massive funds on the trailer.......\n\nAnd then they outsource the game software testing to some rickety company in China or something?\n\nI also don't understand why I build brand new computers with the greatest GFX cards & CPU (with no modding or overclocking AT ALL) and all these FPS games keep crashing. Do they just refuse to test anything?\n\nCall of Duty or Battlefield doesn't seem to matter. They just never test it seems.", "> t's hilariously wrong to say the combat is bad because the police system is bad\n\nWhere did I say that? And sorry, am I just supposed to forget about arguably the worst AAA launch disaster in history? \nBeyond that, isn't enjoyment of any game a subjective opinion? I'm not claiming to have absolute truth... What's with your attack against me?", "One of my favourite things in GTA, from 1 to 5 was to build up maximum wanted level and see how long I could run away before evading or being killed. \n\nYou could say Cyberpunk was never set up to provide this challenge but I was still disappointed in the cyberpunk police mechanic.", "Definitely not another Strand-type game", "He does like it", "DICE and QA, name a more iconic duo.", "Basically, it’s gameplay length and quality vs. “box” price of the game. It’s subjective, because for someone a quality 30 hour FPS is worth $59.99. To someone else, they’d need a great 150 hour RPG to feel satisfied. When people complain about a game missing X, as is the case with BF2077 (the campaign), what they are saying is that the new game lacks something typical in the genre and game class. I think Star Citizen detractors often believe that it won’t be completed because it is trying to be many game classes (FPS, space sim, dog fighter) within a unique genre (universe simulated sci-fi mmorpg) for an undefined box price (X to play but X+Y to “finish”).", "I agree. Even though Im a huge fan of the cyberpunk genre I tried to avoid the hype around this game so I came into it relatively blind in that regard. But I understand they hyped the fuck out of their game.\n\nBut yeah, when I had beaten it all I could think was \"I wish there was more.\" Three more playthroughs later now.", "Why do that when they can still make the money and not be directly attached to the hate as a third party? Games have become a business. Yeah, they should get paid. The developers are most likely being rushed and pressured intensely with unrealistic deadlines. I'm not too enthusiastic about the future of the gaming industry at this rate. Single player games are the way to go.", "Been playing since the start. Fooled me 10 times, Still love it.", "That doesnt really reverse anything. Juat because you had a fine playthrough doesnt mean everyone did. And for a reputation to be, yknow a thing, its a consensus.\n\nAnd console players making up a large portion of that consensus, being sold a faulty product, is how the reputation got where it is.\n\nFor god sakes man it crashed during my credits.\n\nBeyond that, at lot of the gameplay is pretty subpar, the only overall positive is the characters. When theyre not tposing halfway in the geound, that is.", "Peak content: a clip show of other people's bugs with zero commentary.", "As, uh, is tradition", "The game is fine, small amount of bug experiences if you actually play it", "BF1942: Desert Combat", "Lmao, I hope you're just young.", "Shroud has not been getting paid to play bf or new world lol.. You guys are morons lol \nIf he is getting paid to play any game he legally has to state that somewhere on the stream. If you guys are so sure of it why dont you guys sue him then?", "How are games getting worse? This looks worse than BF2. Why do you people keep buying trash games?", "Gameplay loops. Like objectives to complete, a reason to want to complete them, and some sense of accomplishment when you do.\n\nStar Citizen, and I say this as an early backer, has none of those features yet. None.", "I dont get where Y is coming from in X+Y\n\nYou can get anything in game, even now during the alpha. And while it can take a while, its not like, an insane length of time.", "Well the role you play is the essential cyberpunk protagonist so I was fine with that, I love V as a character, felt like he came out of a william gibson novel. And the story was great, the personal stakes made it seem intimate and you really felt the desperation and fear of the character.\n\nSame was true in the witcher games, you're always playing geralt. You can make minor changes to the way geralt behaves, but you're still geralt the monster hunter.", "Same.\n\nIts buggy as hell on console and low spec pcs.\n\nThe talent trees are awful.\n\nHacking is wildly overpowered.\n\nThe gunplay is decent, but not spectacular.\n\nBut *HOLY SHIT* the writing is absolutely top tier. I'll die on this hill.", "Same", "Anyone know the song name at the end?", "EA/DICE scammed the ever living shit out of people with Battlefield V. They released the game without anticheat and made it a miserable experience reporting people. From day 1, every server in Asia is occupied by numerous hackers from China. It is a chore finding a server without a hacker. And when you find one, it is only for a moment because there is a hacker waiting to turn on their cheats. So only people having fun are the cheaters. \n\nI hope they fucking go bankrupt for scamming people with BFV. \n\nIn BF 3 and 4 we didn't have this issue because we ran our own servers with community anticheat and mods that were active. \n\nNow? They not only took away what allowed us to keep the game pretty much cheat-free, they offered nothing to replace it. \n\n------\n\nTo make matters worse, both /r/battlefield and the BFV subs censor any talk of this problem. \n\nSo people continue to buy the horseshit that is the hacking problem in the game. \n\nNever again.", "Once I found out why he said it the way he did, it completely changed the context for me. Still funny though!", "Well, the anime community has at least one rep, so surely Congress has Capital G Gamers", "High TTK\n\n8 grenades have entered the chat.", "If funding for Star Citizen began to dry up tomorrow, it would be released and finished within a year. Not in the state they want to. Just to get the project finished so they can move on.\n\nFrom their perspective; why on earth would they release it, when they are paid to keep it in an eternal beta?", "In the past, I saw it as a game that's feature complete enough to support multiple gameplay loops vs a few vertical slices of only a few of the loops described in the games marketing materials.", ">over 10 years ago\n\nThis sounded so wrong to me because I remembered it taking much longer than that to \"officially\" release but you're right. Even if \"over\" is only technically accurate by a handful of days lmao.", "Same. Played the beta, skipped on a purchase but kept up with all the updates through YouTube and then I got back into it when it came to EA Game Pass. And now it’s real good.\n\nSo yeah, I’m used to waiting on Battlefield games. So I can wait like a year or so for 2042.", "Man, I almost wish I was playing the same game that everyone else apparently is.\n\nPlayed 3 and a half hours last night and didn't have a single bug or glitch (other than occasionally the party falling apart). It's borderline disappointing I don't get to experience these shenanigans.", "You should be able to sue because of this.", "bUt My PrOgReSsIoN!!!\n\nFor real though they’re having a fit about it, it launched weeks early, I’m at least giving them until the official release date to be bummed about them not listening to feedback, which they already greatly improved.", "Bad Company 2 is legendary status.", "Is it a ground-up rework? If so, I can sorta understand. Gamers complain about the sports games being exactly the same every year, but then complain when they lose features during reworks. The bugs...well bugs happen.", "Minecraft's development started way earlier, though, and its scope is significantly smaller. It was a java-based crafting and world-shaping game. Star Citizen is simulating multiple solar systems without using server shards like other MMOs and it allows players to fly from space to the surface of a planet seamlessly which has only been done in three other games (that I know of) in recent years, all of which look far worse and achieve far less (Rodina [obscure indie game that looks like N64 graphics], Elite: Dangerous [space sim known for being a mile wide and an inch deep, only added atmospheric planetary landing like a few months ago in a DLC that is overwhelmingly negative on Steam], No Man's Sky [No Man's Sky]).\n\nNot shilling for CIG here, but honestly if you haven't looked into Star Citizen or played it recently its really unfair to make judgements about it because it is actively being developed, albeit at a snail's pace, and it is pretty mindblowing.\n\nEDIT: I mean [check this shit out](https://youtu.be/1MOfi5PasP8) from one month ago", "I'm referencing the CoD series.", "Some people consider the ongoing dev cost to be Y. They aren’t required to pay it, but many people do through the subscription, etc.", "More Maps\n\nMore Gametypes\n\nBeing able to actually select the Gametypes you want to play\n\nPerformance-Based XP (challenge-based XP makes progression an absolute grind - I've played about 8 hours of the game and I'm only on level 3 at the moment)\n\nA decent battle pass\n\nArmour coatings that aren't tied to specific armour cores\n\nPlayer collision and friendly fire in social playlists\n\nThat's the minimum that needs to happen with Infinite rn. The gameplay loop is solid and IMO the best since Reach, but it feels like all these things add up to an experience that lacks the charm of its predecessors. I could go on but it's been said to death on the halo subreddit.", "The government is an easy hammer to imagine swinging. We don't want bad products so let's make an agency that punishes bad products.\n\nOne problem is that brokenness is hard to objectively rate, all large games have hundreds or thousands of bugs, and some of the best games ever made are also the buggiest. A lot of people would call Fallout 76 a broken betrayal of a product, while calling any other Fallout game a masterpiece, and I can't imagine the government rulebook that could tell them apart.\n\nWith cars it's easy to insist on many objective criteria (crash resistance, fuel efficiency, emissions, lifespan...) and even on how those criteria are met because they're a mass-produced product that's been slowly iterating on the same basic design for a hundred years. But games are unique creative projects with no common purpose except to have some kind of video display and be entertaining to somebody. You can't easily write standards for them.\n\n>misleading in advertising\n\nRight now they get to say anything during development because they're advertising the hoped-for result of a work-in-progress and disclaiming that. Same problem as above - you might know it when you see it, but try writing the rule that can tell the difference between lies and over-optimism.", "but no campaign", "It's missing forge, so that's not entirely true. I'm assuming there will be numerous forge maps.", "That was actually amazing.\n\nDevs really took the, “bug is a feature,” meme too far. They’re making “content” at this point.", "Tell us, how much have you real money have you spent on spaceships?", "It sounds like a skateboard!", "Well EA is just being charitable by helping poor law firms sue them for money so they can have more business. They’re a job creator! (For lawyers)", "They announced forge is being released in season 3, not when the full release drops. For more added information, season 1 lasts until may I believe.. so we’re talking about the end of 2022 for forge.", "I think it was a bad attempt at a joke because we saw him die in one of the trailers before the game was even released.", "That has to be the most downvoted comment.\n\nI even downvoted it myself. Jeez has it really been 4 years?", "At first glance this seems like programmers who can't write something simple like checking the z-coordinate of the tank against the ground.\n\nInstead what this is showing is that dev studios are using cheap third-party \"game engines\" written by strangers several states away from them. They fire all their QA team then release the game on schedule. Fast-forward several weeks, and reddit is full of videos like this.", "I am so glad I stopped playing FPS games years ago. COD and Battlefield are so whack", "I don't play video games but I do watch Dunkey's videos to seem what the medium is like these days.", "Yeah ive not experienced any of the bugs in the video and the game runs smooth for me, tho I am on a high end pc", "That's the thing, the battlefield games are amazing....\n\n\n1-3 months after launch lol", "I feel like the quality of everything has went to shit. \n\nSad sad times", "Definitely a skateboard.", "I thought it was pretty good, personally.", "These are cherry-picked to show the worse of the worse. Just like the trailer was cherry picked and carefully crafted to show the best of the best. \n\nLike everything in life the truth is somewhere in between", "None, I'm not personally interested in the game myself lol", "Goblins are real", "BF2142 was fucking amazing, just for Titan Mode alone.\n\nIt meant that the game was never truly over. Even if the team looked to be on the brink of defeat, there was still a sliver of hope at invading the enemy Titan and blitzing it to zero if one was ballsy enough. Meanwhile, Conquest Mode had a foregone conclusion five minutes into the match.\n\nThere's the Revival Project that's still active I think. I tried it, it was all right for a few minutes if only for the nostalgia factor - but at the same time it reminded me of how incredibly floaty the movement was, and how newer FPS games in general have much tighter, more well-planted controls.\n\nOh yeah, and DICE never fixed the fucking right-hand machine gun on the EU transport. :V", "Lol same here.", "This game looks sick! I’ve been waiting for a game with modern warfare mixed with space and no gravity! Let’s go!!!", "I fully expect all AAA games to be broken at this point. It’s a joke. Which is probably why I have mostly stopped playing videos games.", "The best bf games in order imo are bfbc2, bf3, bf4", "Haven't had a single connection issue after 50 games. What speed is your internet?", "Halo Infinite showed me that I finally have a PC that can't run latest games even on low :( I was so amped for it too. It sits at 35% loading a map for about 10 minutes, and then plays at about 15 fps haha. The poor people waiting in the lobby for my map to load!", "Except Im also a backer, and it absolutely does. \n\nIt definitely needs lots of work still. \n\nBut there are objectives, reasons to complete them, and, well, I cant tell you to feel a \"sense of accomplishment\" but plenty of people enjoy completing those objectives, upgrading in game, etc.", "Exactly. Their Jira backlog must be a thing of nightmares.", "IMO the most fun Battlefield.", "Battlefield is the NBA 2K of FPS games. Every year we get epic trailers and epic disappointments, yet people continue to support it even despite all the negative reviews. This franchise needs to die off already.", "New Halo beta is really great if you're into that franchise. Free and goes till December 8th", "Happens to me sometimes too. But Halo is a very team-oriented game. Most of the time enemy teammates will tag team you even if you're across the map from each other.\n\nSame works both ways though, sometimes you get to be John fucking Wick with the pistol and get a triple kill grab the Oddball and beat the last guy to death", "MAN FUCK THIS GAME, GODAMN TEAM...\n\nAlright lets play another one.", "He's messing with you, Jackie isn't in the game more than an hour.", "Roccccccck and Stone!\n\nDeep Rock Galactic is great right now. Or Hell let Loose", "Daggerfall, 1996. Be crouching when you walk through a doorway, fall through the map.\n\nEvery.\n\nDamn.\n\nTime.\n\nIt was kind of cool though because you could then see the entire dungeon layout, where the chests and skeletons were, etc.", "Even Balan Wonderworld got a full video where he actually explained why the game was bad.\n\nDICE managed to do something worse than Balan fucking Wonderworld.", "LOL", "I feel like I'm alone in having a good time with the game. I haven't seen any crazy bugs, I feel a little left out.", "SKATE had a baby with Battlefield.", "Unpopular opinion: if you preorder a game these days, especially from certain studios, you are an idiot and deserve this.", "It just a matter of who you're teamed with. \n\nI'm trying to find a fellow player who I road in the jeep with, my favorite gunner... :(", "Halo is good. Its missing SWAT tho. That was the best mode", "Is Warzone any fun? I stopped playing a few months after the 1980s updates… I hate those older weapons and how they’re blatantly more powerful than the new ones", "50-60 mbps down 40-50 up", "Really wish we could just do away with launch dates at this point. They're so useless. I get the necessity of hyping up a fanbase but at this point with games being so incomprehensibly complex programming-wise, I would absolutely prefer just a \"Coming Spring '23\" guestimate to at least give the devs the buffer if needed. I'm so sick of half baked games getting released with the inevitable post-game 25GB patch.", "Aim for the head and use grenades/melee. Shoot, strafe, jump, melee. Its really a game about combos.", "I bought it today. I don't have more than perhaps two hours, but I'm most likely gonna go for a refund.\n\nI haven't experienced too many bugs (the two worst ones was flying through the room and getting stuck to some pipes in the ceiling when there was a tornado outside, as well as getting stuck in the elevator shaft after glitching through the floor of the elevator), but its not at all what I was expecting.\n\nI started playing BF with the original 1942 (I actually also played Codename Eagle, which in ways is the original BF game) and have played a few since. I skipped 4 and 5 though. I just feel like they're only going for chaos nowadays. As if the chaos of the fight isn't enough, then there's also fucking tornadoes? WTAF?\n\nI miss BF2.", "Alright lad buckle the fuck up because I'm going to give you a long ass list of games that will make your eyes twinkle and put butterfly's in your stomach with how fucking good they are.\n\nYou like big budget big boi games? Well Sony has pretty much every exclusive for you:\n\n- The Uncharted Series if you want adventure\n\n- The Last of Us series if you want depression\n\n- Horizon Zero Dawn if you want to fight fucking robot dinosaurs\n\n- God of War if you want to fight literal mythic beasts\n\n- Persona 5 Royal if you want to play the best fucking JRPG of all time\n\n- There's also Spiderman and Guardians of the Galaxy if you want that snarky Marvel goodness in game form.\n\nBUT THERES MORE, YA LIKE INDIES?\n\n- Try Outer Wilds for existensial crisis fun\n\n- Or try Hades to kill MORE GODS\n\n- Or there's Cuphead for a more frustrating experience than Warzone\n\n- When you need to chill after that you can boot up Stardew Valley\n\n- It's not an indie but hey, do you wanna throw FUCKING FORKLIFTS AT X-FILES MONSTERS!? Then play CONTROL. Just play the game.\n\nEDIT: PLAY FUCKING HOLLOW KNIGHT YOU PUSSIES ITS PRETTY MUCH DARK SOULS\n\nOh and BTW Microsoft just put out a little indie gem called HALO INFINITE, and it's great, and there's also like a billion other Halo games to play and they are all there own blend of awesome in their own special way.\n\nWarzone is pretty cool, but there is plenty else out there.", "I did the same. I should've realized there was a reason BF4 was on sale for 50% off 3 weeks after launch. It didn't get playable until ~1 year later or sometime longer than that. On the bright side, the price of the game when it was playable was around what I paid for at launch. It taught me the lesson of never buy a BF game at $59.99 (aka launch price).", "No thanks, I'd rather sleep at night.", "Gun bloom in shooters is when the aiming reticule gets less precise the more the gun shoots consecutively. High bloom means after you've shot a few times you're barely hitting where you're aiming until you let it reset. It's a good balance tool for automatic weapons, but sometimes devs go overboard with it and it makes guns feel super awkward to use.", "It needs a larger playlist (SWAT, and slayer modes) and the vehicle spawns (particular air vehicles) need more usage (whether that be larger maps, more spawns or both).\n\nBut otherwise, I agree. The fundamentals are there and its going to be a really solid multiplayer game. Takes me right back to the old days.", "True", "For the life of me, I cannot comprehend their thought process on this..", "That should be ok but depending on how many devices are connected it could be an issue. I have 500/500 and haven't experienced any sort of connectivity issue. Have you gone into settings and clicked \"show ping\" or whatever it says? I'm curious what yours is at. Mines been a constant 32ms", "saving this comment for when Fallout 6 comes out, we shall see if you were right.", "There are so many issues with this game that idk why dunky focused ones that are already fixed or trivial. the out of map stuff is mostly fixed and the ragdolling bodies is too. \n\nThe only major issue he highlighted was the hit reg/ weapon spread issues. this is an FPS game where sometimes you cant actually shoot anyone. there are numerous clips of bullets not hitting where someone is aiming or hitting with no hitmarkers. Thats a guaranteed way to piss of your players. i dont care that spread has been a mechanic in past games; it was never as noticeable as it is now.", "You really think that QA wasn't just straight-up ignored in this case? They can find all the bugs they like, but if the company's leadership refuses to delay the game to fix them (or reassign devs from making extra content to fixing existing content), it really doesn't matter how good a job QA does.", "I still have a very special place in my heart for Battlefield 2 with the special forces expansion", "Say what you will about the player base, but the game is far from mediocre.", "Wow. One born every minute.", "I blame Bioware for the current era of gaming. Here's a breakdown of their recent ventures:\n\n* Release Mass Effect: Andromeda- a decent but buggy game with some weird facial animations.\n* Promise fixes and DLC to appease angry consumers/ shareholders\n* Wait a few months for the playerbase to move on, cancel plans for DLC and overhauls to work on their next project- Anthem.\n* Hype the shit out of Anthem\n* Release Anthem- a heaping pile of dogshit with few redeeming qualities.\n* Promise fixes and DLC to appease angry consumers/ shareholders\n* Wait a few months for most of the playerbase to move on, cancel plans for DLC and overhauls to work on their next project- a new Dragon Age.\n\nIf the trend follows, the new Dragon Age will have an awesome ad campaign, but the game will just be a bugged titlescreen that flips you the bird before bricking your console/ PC.", "I think part of the reason for destruction getting toned down was how imbalanced it made some maps.", "There it is. This is what everyone needs to remember. \n\nOf course, BF4 is an amazing game now. I have no fear that DICE/Ripple Effect can turn 2042 around\n\nEdit: Then again, they dropped BFV after like 6 months so who the hell knows", "You can shoot through walls and the AI just stands there and doesn't move to stop you from hitting them in the face every time.", "Neymar getting fouled POV at 2:40", "The AI spawning put me over the edge on that game. Seeing the same dude 29 times in the span of a block just really takes you out of the game.", "The biggest problem for me was the performance. Pegged my 4790 and stuttered to the point of being unplayable, on lowest settings looking worse than bf4. My GPU only had like half utilization. I would have put up with other problems and waited for fixes but I couldn't even play the game so I had to refund it.", "MMR seems to work well. My first 3 games were hilariously easy, then they got closer to 50/50", "Yeah idk why anyone preordered this game. It’s just a recycled experience.", "Unfortunately for me the multiplayer part of horizon is also very buggy.. Shitty matchmaking, disconnects etc", "ultimate stelth gameplay", "Business guy perspective:\n\nA ton of this is probably these companies being greedy little shits and knowing consumers will pay... Another reason I see is that game development seems so complex, expensive and time consuming nowadays. Idk what it costs to make a big title but I think it's like ~~$1bn+~~ $100-300MM\n\nSo the company can't just deploy that much capital without some kind of cash coming in. Concerts do this by selling tickets early on as well, using the cash from sales to book artists.\n\nSo the company gets money upfront and then they can leverage that into financing the final stages of development. Basically every game like this is kind of a Kickstarter at this point.\n\nA better, more honest approach would be to finance the beta at a lower cost. Like hey we have this shitty version of battlefield rn and if you want to pay $30 you can play and help us iron out the bugs. At which point the game releases for full price or higher.", "What part of \"chumps have paid 600 million for a beta\" are you struggling with son? You have people money, and got a half finished product for your cash. Then, like Trump voters, no matter how CLEARLY stupid things got, you've got to defend it. It's past sad dude...", "Did people pay actual money for this?\n\nI almost feel better for my Cyberpunk 2077 preorder. ^^almost", "Sony don't give af\n\nEdit: lol why the downvotes? Sony won't refund digital store purchases. And if someone was successful, please let me know how. I'd like my money back.", "Sounds like a great way to get your fans to turn on you. But maybe he thinks the money makes it worth it.", "My loathing of EA was Sim City. Didn't work. No refunds. Never bought another EA game again. No regrets.", "Are Cyberpunk 2077 and Battlefield 2042 the same underlying engine?", "Again, nothing prevented your progression. I never said or implied everyone had the same experience I did.\n\nIts reputation is somewhat based on consensus, sure. Most of it is based on memes from people who didnt or barely played it, and it was way better than its reputation implied. It was a good game that needed polish.\n\nAnd gameplay wise, if you havent sprinted through a building autoaiming dudes with a smart weapon as they all stumble around blind, or ninjaed your way through with slow time and the heal on bleed/kill katana you dont know what your missin'. Game has a ton of fun builds. Personal favorite was the LMG/shotgun one with insane knockdowns that does damage relative too how fast youre moving and synergizing with slow time on dodge.", "EA is not the problem. If you bought this game YOURE the problem. And if you keep buying garbage, you will keep getting garbage.", "Wait, 2077? Did the Battlefield series and Fallout do a cross-over and no one told me? 🤪", "Same man, I got it 'late' and thought it played wonderfully. Unfortunately I played so much that I got 'banned for hacking' which I've never hacked. Tried to 'appeal' it but they literally just said, \"Nope, we say you cheated so you're banned.\" Will never buy another game from EA again due to that. They literally took my money then took away the product I paid for.", "Haha yup I actually have 2 360 no scopes with the sniper already. My first one was totally on accident too... I got medals for it and I was like, oh hell yeah!", "All I remember is that the helicopters in BF Vietnam were too easy to fly. First time ever playing the game and you could hop in a helicopter zooming around killing people. Try flying a helicopter in Desert Combat for the first time, you crash and die. It's a fucking helicopter, it should be difficult to fly. Haven't played any BF since, but I assume they never made anything difficult to fly.", "Yeah, I wish the game was longer and they had more time to flesh out jackie.", "I've played a ton of cyberpunk over the past year, and its one of my favorite games, but it is a completely different game from what was promised. It being a fun game (on PC) doesn't change the fact that they blatantly lied about what is was for years while accepting preorders. And that's not even addressing the bugs or compatibility issues.", "Yup I've actually been jumping more and that helps. You do know that headshots don't do more damage though right? Not until the shields are gone", "> You have people money, and got a half finished product for your cash.\n\nI mean this isn't a novel concept anymore. It was a novel concept when Notch invented it for Minecraft, and Minecraft is one of the most well-liked games of all time. I paid for it two years before it released and I enjoyed playing it as it blossomed into a full game. Is that wrong?\n\nAre you really comparing early access models to voting for Trump? Find a hobby, bro.\n\nEDIT: Also, if you think Star Citizen has raised $600 million then that's all the proof I need that you've done literally zero research into the current state of the game. You inflated that number by [fifty percent](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals). How is that even possible if you're not just guessing?", "I honestly think you have a point in some ways but on the other hand i dont like the release model of the slices of beead without much sandwich in between", "Bugs aside, it has the worst gameplay of any recent Battlefield. Maybe any Battlefield ever.", "I have to believe people when they say that. I didn't follow any news on the game, just waited for the release. Played it and loved it. Minimal bugs, no broken quests. Went on Reddit after enjoying it during the first play session and found absolute pandemonium. My experience was a complete night and day sort of thing I felt insane.\n\nI saw the videos, I know people weren't lying. It was just a very bizarre experience.", "For me it was the zipline. In the trailer he ziplines onto a building to shoot other players, and in the gameplay he ziplines onto the building and all the bullets go through the player without hitting him.", "Me and the boys laying down some shit from a Huey, with fortunate son blasting. \n\nThose were the days man", "How the hell, after all this shit and all the times they fucked up did Dice allow a game they hyped up THIS HARD to come to out shitty like this? I played two rounds on the Bets and knew this would suck. I don't give a damn what it looks like in a year or two I'm not rewarding shitty behavior from this dipshit company. I'll wait and see if the next battlefield is worth it's price tag.", "You mean it was deliberate?", "Huh. Interesting. Well, at least it gets you lined up for when the shields are down.", "I always assumed that he went to say it properly, then realised halfway through that he shouldn't publicly say \"shame on me\" because that would be clipped by media.", "Totally agree! To this day playing on Titan game mode is one of my most standout memories from a lifetime of video games.\n\nSometimes it would just devolve into a meat grinder on the ships themselves but it was still so so fun.", "They've fixed a lot of what you listed", "I didn't think this was possible but they did it the absolute mad men. They made it buggier than Battlefield V.", "Oh I never meant I don't mind. That's why I haven't bought anything lately brand new except Cp2077 because I actually like it. Of course it's not fleshed out and no trip A title is anymore but hey guess people don't like being reminded of that fact.", "That's what parenting should involve.\nTeach your kids not to make the same dumb ass mistakes you made.", "When it slid across the screen and the guy started shooting at it I lost it and couldn't stop laughing.", "Half the players are under 18. Can they even enter contracts?", "crying over here 😂", "hes full of it. The maps were good. The guns felt good, and the teamplay was still there.", "Do people never learn?", "He is getting paid to play games. He is known in the scene, so when a new game comes out he will play those games. Getting more people to tune in. \n\nHow do you know if he gets paid or not? A lot of gaming companies do, that is nothing new. He would be a great promoter for such games, so I do not think it is unplausable to think he might have some small side deals to play these typs of games at release. Nothing wrong with it either.", "> Core gameplay was massively fucked for BF4. The game was completely reworked. \n\nWhat?? BF4 was literally just BF3 again with some QoL stuff and a flashy new coat of paint (probably a little too flashy). I remember we were all pretty angry about it at the time since it came out just 2 years after its predecessor, which was still going strong.", "Yeah Dunkey always gets loads of glitches sent to him", "Careful, you will wake the cultists.", "What can you even you when you clip through the ground? Like, is it even possible to commit suicide when that happens? Do you just keep falling forever?", "Played the trial today, it's awful, especially compared to Halo which is near flawless.", "2077 refering to Cyberpunk 2077, overhyped, gonna have this gonna have that, you pay and get shit. Gamecommunity has to stand up but we just buy this crap over and over, or they sell us the same game over and over again(remasters) or they sell us half-finished games... its like normal now...", "Gonna need the name of that rendition at the end. Amazing.", "There's a whole lot of people who are okay with it too. Play through the glitches until it's patched.", "Yup I've heard that thought, but I try to stay more around upper body to make sure more bullets hit then just swing up. I feel like going for the head I end up missing a couple bullets and it ends up not being a 4 shot kill", "I had to Google it and ended up on a wiki page with his most famous 'bushisms'... He's said worse", "It's a shame because it actually looks pretty nice on a decent PC", "Uhhh no headshots have always and do have more damage", "Nope. You are wrong. Not until the shields are down.", "Except it's not simulating multiple solar systems, it's simulating one. Just one of many planned, but still only one after near ten years. (Actually it's not even simulation since there's no orbital simulation, all planets and moons are stationary).\n\n\nAnd they WILL be using sharding \"as their first iteration\" since they realized, along with those more tech savvy have known, a global shard is physically impossible at playable levels. Their server meshing is being advertised as \"you'll be able to player with other players, but can only interact and see 50 within your vicinity\" (funny enough this is their server player cap, which SM was initially advertised as a method to increase player cap, not give the illusion of such). They've mentioned they're exploring a global shard down the road, in the same vein that they're exploring how to implement players recovering paid for items in game (aka we didn't consider that yet).\n\nSo far everyone's judgment is on point; it may be rough but this game became a long grift. \n\nThey also conveniently decided to push out expected features this coming patch to six months out \"in an effort to provide a fuller experience\", except that said feature/gameloop (salvage) has been advertised as expected since 3.6. So since... 2016 is it?\n\nHow about the cargo refactor? Or Hull C getting the same treatment as salvage (were gonna push it out again six months to provide a \"fuller\" experience). \n\nLet's not overlook ToW has been absent since their second evocati playtest, SQ42 has not had any new images or reels shown since 2017 under the guise of spoilers! (Most transparent development ever).\n\n\nThe pace they release content has a few options of viable explanation:\n\n1.\tMismanagement (very likely)\n2.\tgrift/scam (less likely but ya never know)\n3.\twaiting for real world tech to develop to allow for their impossible SM ideas (same level as grift/scam)\n4.\tthey're afraid if they hit the end of the road in development and SQ42 bombs, the ez money from jpgs is done (very likely)\n\nMy money is on 4, as they already had to restart on SQ42 since it \"didn't live up to their standards\". They know the game they're making isn't really all that fun, so they'll rework it slowly while they have money coming in from concept and ship sales in hopes they get it right. All on the dime of the consumer.\n\nKeep in mind all these hiccups at the tune of $400m (they broke that benchmark today), and they haven't even settled on a proper flight model.\n\n\nOH and they have to go back and redo all their ships for \"gold standard\" since they forgot to account for swappable parts that they advertised since their Kickstarter (woops!). \n\nWhat's mind blowing about this tech demo is that it cost as much as it did to make, and they still need more to finish it to make a proper game.", "I remember giraffe necks", "I completely believe all the complaints I’m hearing but honestly it’s not my experience so far. I’ve had a few glitches here and there but I’m about level 27 and I’m mostly having an awesome time. Had some epic battlefield moments so far that you don’t get in other games. I totally agree it should have been more polished by release by I’m still having a blast\n\nI should add, I’m playing on ps5 so not sure if that explains the better experience.", "Really takes me out of the future immersion too.\n\nFuture weapons are suppose to be uncontrollable with automatic use? Yeah right.", "I'm honestly glad i just bought the origin game pass to try the game first before forking out money for it.", "In the alternate future of the Fallout series the \"Great War\" or the nuclear apocalypse happened in October of 2077 (and this was established years before Cyberpunk 2077 was even pitched) So that's the only thing I was referencing.", "Nah dude, people keep pretending like the only issues were the bugs. It's an incredibly shallow game and promises that the devs themselves made were never delivered on. The AI is garbage. Wanted system is ridiculous. Combat is awkward and boring. The dialogue trees and general campaign \"choices\" are joke. The skills suck. Customization is hilariously non existent for a game that constantly said you can \"be anyone\". Watch the countless videos breaking down all the things the devs said in interviews and then quietly rolled back or never delivered. \n\nPeople were not just mad about the bugs. The bugs were the tip of the iceberg. Even if you fixed all of the bugs tomorrow it would be a fucking garbage game. And again, this isn't a case of fans just overhyping a game, this is all from things the devs themselves said would be features that just weren't.", "Sure, but the video is about the shit they released instead of some great war...", "Even when they had to be locked at opposite ends of the map to prevent insane lag, shit was fun as fuck.", "ESC, Redeploy....", "Could even play an older and better Battlefield game", "Honestly a lot of the hype was also people generated. Just off the top of my head I remember a upvoted post excited about \"motorcycle leaning physics\" and how they'd project red was going to have some kind of incredible leaning mechanic for their motorcycles???", "Don't think I've met anyone hyped for a Far Cry game since 3.", "You mean, Buggerfall, 1996?", "Thats crazy man. But like 1/10 people had that so it was a pretty shit game.", "I'd beg to disagree, the pacific theater addon was honestly really high quality and the game seemed to just be hitting its stride, but got killed by execs doing nothing but monetizing customization and dropping the game after a year. When playing the game you can feel that the developers cared, but the cuts made it the mess it is now. I really hope the same fate doesn't meet 2042, because with what the core elements offer, it can be an amazing game. But it'll only happen if execs don't do.. this again.", "It’s also worth nothing that bloom is present in every Battlefield and Call of Duty. When you fire from the hip, your bullets bloom to a higher and higher degree the longer you keep the trigger held.\n\nThe issue with bloom in Battlefield this year, as well as Vanguard, is that bloom is present even when you are aimed down your sights. In the past, if you were aiming down your sights, your bullets went exactly where you were aiming—no bloom. You had complete control over your bullets and it made sense. You sacrifice movement and aiming speed for accuracy, and when shooting from the hip, you sacrifice accuracy for movement and aiming speed. Bloom being present when ADS is absolutely absurd.\n\nI haven’t played Battlefield aside from the beta, but have played plenty Vanguard. In Vanguard, it’s infuriating, as it causes gunfights to be less of a skill based encounter and more to do with luck.", "They did collab on family and loyalty, but yeah, not the same sound at all.", "Meanwhile Halo has customization locked behind a paywall and you can even pick what mode you want to play right now.\n\nAlso just released was the data dump for stuff earned from buying the $60 game standalone and they literally are giving you nothing compared to what you can buy on the store page or battlepass.\n\n343 sold out and decided against giving cool armor and customization based on player skill and now it is just who wants to pay for it.", "Yeah, there is a massive difference between \"still a good game even with everything bad\" and \"I still enjoyed the game even with everything bad\". Just because someone personally enjoyed it does not make it a good game. Some people genuinely enjoy this game, it is still a shitty Battlefield game overall.", "as someone not really caught up by the hype, I absolutely loved the game, but stopped about halfway through because the game just lost its allure. waiting for the next gen update hopefully within the next couple of months to pick it back up", "Because Halo used to be you earned customization and cool armors thru skill or time spent playing.\n\nNow they locked all of that behind a paywall with no other way to customize your spartan.", "I don't personally care about cosmetics, but I agree that I'm disappointed with the move from unlocking cool stuff with achievements to whipping out the credit card", "BFV was just a bunch of bad ideas, so no surprise.", "bro no they havent.\n\nthat hasn't stopped me from doing 3 100% play throughs. they've fixed a lot of bugs for sure, but its gunna take them a massive dlc to rework the lame gameplay stuff...", "😂😂😂😂😂😂", "I had to find r/lowsodiumcyberpunk to get away from the hate bandwagon.\n\nI did a 100% and loved every minute of it. The game runs just fine now, and anyone who is choosing to avoid it based on internet comments is missing out big time.", "...Wanted system? Are you one of those that expected GTA cyberpunk and think the game is 'shallow' because there aren't random minigames that are completely inconsequential too the game? Complaining about the wanted system when it has so little to do with the game, mechanics, narrative, or anything really, is sort of telling. Shallow is not how I would imagine describing cyberpunk\n\nThe skills suck? By what metric? Why do you think \"the skills suck\". Customization is non-existant? What? Because you cant paint your car or what?\n\nThe campaign choices and narrative are one of the highlights of the game and thats complete nonsense. \n\nAgain, I dont care about the games hype. Its irrelevant too the quality of the game. Ive seen some of those videos, the majority are trying to cash in on the trend. I notice so many that use alpha builds with literal big \"NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FINAL GAME, FEATURES MAY NOT BE PRESENT\" plastered across the screen as evidence of 'broken promises', and it's usually for dumb stuff like \"You can't leap with mantis blades the way they presented it\". Not a single one made a convincing argument too me that the game was as terrible as you imply. \n\nHow far did you actually get through it to asses it as garbage?", "Actually I think the worst problem are people who blindly defend the devs and make things seem like it's not as bad as others say that feed into this and enable it. There are a surprising number of people who immediately very loudly defend just about any moderately anticipated game as \"not being that bad\". You can even see some of them in this thread.", "Even worse was that in the 2 years they supported the game, they screwed up the balance around December, reverted it a couple months later after stubbornly insisting the changes was good, despite massive protests from the playerbase. Promising it was \"an experiment that wouldn't be repeated\". \n\nThen literally a year later (after the release of the Pacific theater, where the game was actually in a great state) they do the same thing all over again and the result is the same that it takes them months to just admit defeat and revert most of the changes after a large chunk of the playerbase left. And then they cease development a few months later.", "Yep, and Xbox is denying my refund. They said I have \"played the game\". Yes, pre-ordered, played early release a couple hours on the first 2 days, found out it was a scam, wanted a refund. Now, if I played the free 10 hours on Game Pass I could have played twice as long and mot paid a dime for the game. Makes sense.", "\"Send in the necroscouts!\"", "Man games are so depressing now days, bout to say fuck it and quit for good..", "What happens when the gamers grow up and start teaching their kids the lesson?", "I miss BF2, the original BF2. Every Battlefield since then hasn't lived up to it.", "Having played nearly every battlefield since the beginning, 2142 sucked ass then and I expected the same from 2042. I sat this one out and am glad I did.", "It peaked with BF2.", "Is that what would happen IRL?", "If you know you're going to get the game no matter what, usually there are pre-launch discounts, and in most cases you get to preload, so you can play as soon as the game releases. Preordering isn't as risky as it used to be now that virtually every major digital distribution platform offers refunds if you've played the game for less than 2 hours.", "there will always be idiots that buy this game in this state and prevent these publishers from learning anything.\n\nCyberpunk was the worst offender of this.", "I’m on the same bot as you. The only thing I’ve seen is hit reg and rubber banding. But every BF has this issues. I’ve never experienced anything game breaking yet.", "> games as a service\n\nI cannot stand this economy as a service that we have now. Monthly subscription for everything. I went to buy a new cell phone and they were trying to get me to lease the damn phone. I just want to buy stuff. Not make a goddamn monthly payment.", "so that's the new normal, hype the shit out of a game, release a beta to get players invested, release a broken game, slowly patch it knowing players will stick around cause they already invested so much time.\n\nthis sucks. I sont recall super Mario bros releasing with any bugs.\n\nor halo ce\n\nor so many others.", "Maps are too big. You need a Planetside 2 population to fill the map in 2042. Ps2 had hundreds of players fighting over a region like kaleidoscope between the datacenter and tower.", "dumb", "They are the same noise. Casters on concrete is a childhood memory for me on both parts.", "Absolutely. This was happening for years before Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk was probably just the most hyped up game that turned out to be an unfinished, unpolished mess.", "I know there's a lot of hate for the current state of Battlefield 2042, but reading these comments I feel like I'm the only one who's enjoying the game.", "Has battlefield become this bad. (Sorry I stopped playing after 5)", "Is any AAA game ever released finished now adays?", "Didn't they just pass $400m?", "Spelled “Missin Acomplished”", "r/wooosh", "BF1 conquest definitely has those moments where 30 guys just swarm point after point and it's great.\n\nThe other times those 30 guys are all snipers.", "People call games like firewatch walking simulators but 2042 is the true walking simulator.", "Cyberpunk has a good campaign you can play through and a semi decent AI. Driving AI on the other hand.", "I think there's a certain kind of person that wasn't expecting DICE to release Battlefield 3: 2021 Edition, and those people are finding fun in what the game actually has to offer. I'm one of those people, and while I completely acknowledge that the game has its issues (bugs, design flaws, balance issues, etc.), I'm still having a good time with it. I'm at least optimistic that they'll fix some of the more glaring issues over the next few months.\n\nAnd for what it's worth, I haven't experienced any of the bugs shown in this video.", "I learned it on Cyberpunk 2077.", "It’s on pc as well.", "Seconded. BF1 still has very active servers.", "You can grief and call folks every name in the books, but don't move those fucking Titans or the entire server will hate you when the game crashes. The game was so much fun when shit was working. \n\nWHY CAN'T WE GET TITAN MODE IN ANY GAME?!?!\n\nFuck the other features. Make a game called TITAN MODE®©™ and have a faithful recreation with all the shit bugs attached. \n\nRelease it for free, then make folks pay $39 for a version with fixes. Send me 1% cut and GREEN LIGHT IT INTERNET!", "Yeah I feel like game reviews have become a circlejerk of hatred. I have yet to experienced any of those bugs either but if I did I’d probably just laugh my ass off and go on with my match because it doesn’t seem game breaking like a game crash. Maybe it’s nostalgia for some people but their favorite childhood games have probably had bugs like these too but they’ve probably forgotten about them or continued to have a fun experience with them.", "There was literally nothing to do in Night City besides go into alleyways and kill people. No minigames, the driving was terrible, no quality of life stuff, can't even change your fucking hairstyle. Just empty and pointless.", "Electronic Arts would never publish a game in that condition!", "I bet you a bunch of idiots tried to pre order it.", "The tank clipping ticket is 300 days past SLA. Got escalated and assigned to a dev supervisor that never checks his queue. When he does finally notice it he’ll close it without any notes.", "BFV has taught me well never to give money to these fuckers again.", "Its never, ever QA's fault. Ever.\n\nThey have absolutely no responsibility but to bugtest and report. Everything else is handled by management.", "Yes, im saying the remaining old guard died out when BFV stopped getting support. The pacific addon is what BFV should have launched with, but seeing it get to that level gave me hope.\n\nI think 2042 is the proof of death honestly. The playerbase gave up on BF1 and the producer gave up on BFV, i cant imagine any older DICE devs want to hang around after two separate train wrecks like just to watch a third of their own making happen again.", "I keep saying this that the game, out side of the hand full of story missions is totally hollow. A lot of flash and no substance. Nothing you do matters, there is no profession with the world. Even the story sucks at the end because you and just throw out the whole plot up to the end and make a totally different choice.", "That's it. Even without the bugs, there is an emptiness felt throughout the game and it's world that stems through to its foundations that can't be mended through hotfixes and patches.", "Honestly it ran fine on my machine and was beautiful but I still thought it was just bad for the most part. It was completely unfinished even without the graphic issues and bugs.", "Been playing Planetside 2 like always. We had a storm, decided it was bad and so it was written out of the lore. We've also had airdrop vehicles for quite a while at this point.\n\nCome join us on Auraxis!", "Try Planetside 2. We laugh at 128 players per map :)", "I had a theory, that they were supposed to have fog/smog, and that some exec said \"but nvida wants to show off ray tracing\" and they removed it.\n\nthe cops wouldn't have looked like they appeared out of no where, the hand full of flying vehicles in the cinematics and story would let you think the sky was busy with them, the crowds would have appeared denser and duplicates less obvious, the sky scrapers would have felt less soulless, it would have fixed maybe 80% of the feel of the game, with the possibility the devs focused on the rest and quietly brought it into the game.\n\nlike what cyberpunk media didn't deal with smog and pollution, even in game some alleyways and walls are or areas are trash for 100's of meters, a fucking nuke went off in the city and its based in a desert....with no government oversight.....and its clear sunny skies all day every day, like its an untainted Caribbean paradise? \n\nthe fog/smog that never was was a rug hiding some bodies, then someone said they need to remove the rug because \"big lumber\" wants to show off the hard wood floors...", "As a long time Battlefield fan Dice is now dead to me. I will never buy one of their games after this embarrassment of a product.", "No going to lie. I think part of the reason games have had so many performance issues these past couple years is because developers are stuck between old gen and new gen consoles.\n\nReally sucks that stock can't keep up. You basically have to make next generation games, but constrain your ideas to current gen consoles.", "I actually like that this is happening, only because people know that battlefield is going to improve so much and people are still going to play it like it never came out like a dumpster fire, but most people are ready to raid CDPR and burn their offices to the ground for Cyberpunk in that r/ \n\n\nfor some reason they aren't trying to give that game time, but battlefield most definitely will get it's time.", "I had a theory, that they were supposed to have fog/smog, and that some exec said \"but nvida wants to show off ray tracing\" and they removed it.\n\nthe cops wouldn't have looked like they appeared out of no where, the hand full of flying vehicles in the cinematics and story would let you think the sky was busy with them, the crowds would have appeared denser and duplicates less obvious, the sky scrapers would have felt less soulless, it would have fixed maybe 80% of the feel of the game, with the possibility the devs focused on the rest and quietly brought it into the game.\n\nlike what cyberpunk media didn't deal with smog and pollution, even in game some alleyways and walls are or areas are trash for 100's of meters, a fucking nuke went off in the city and its based in a desert....with no government oversight.....and its clear sunny skies all day every day, like its an untainted Caribbean paradise? \n\nthe fog/smog that never was was a rug hiding some bodies, then someone said they need to remove the rug because \"big lumber\" wants to show off the hard wood floors...", "Battlefield Vietnam was my jam", "Or to put it less cynically. If our fans are willing to bankroll us, why wouldn't we push the game as far as we can? \n\nAnd before you say it no, I've never spent any money on it. Just been watching from the sidelines lol", "Oh shit there's 360 medals? That's dope.\n\nMy biggest serious tip for Hali is to stick near teammates. Basically always try to make it so that if you or your buddy gets into an engagement, the other person can tag in. The TTK in Halo is long, and a few shots from your teammate to down an enemy can make all the difference.", "I genuinely don’t understand how they’re so terrible at making games, yet one one of the biggest studios/publishers. I have not seen a game this buggy since Skyrim.", "I agree, there was a quality that made it feel unfinished. But having come from playing games like neverwinter nights 2, new vegas, and the like, was able to look past that too what the game would be, to the passion and attention too detail the devs had for it, and it just oozes character. Most people just didn't notice I think because they where so focused on the bugs.\n\nI think a lot of people just underestimate it. But I willingly admit I have a bias, the game itself is a love letter too my favorite genre. I wish they had another few months to finish it off, I think people would have a completely different perspective on it if they had. Even now I think the game is significantly more polished than it was on release.", "Planetside 2. Free to play FPS-MMO with three factions fighting at once. Class-based infantry play and unique vehicles for each army.", "At least BF4's underlying gameplay and mechanics were good, they just needed to polish the code. 2042 on the other hand needs a full overhaul.", "Only aim for the head once the shields are down or you're using a sniper.\n\nDamage to the shields is the same no matter where you hit them", "Noally I would say at least it isn't planetside 2 but.....holy fuck....this is somehow worse....", "The average EA game is done development when you can get the golden/complete edition, with all the premium pay perks, altogether for the same $60 as release.\n\nNormally takes about 1-2 years, but that’s typically when they’ve gotten it to a playable state.", "I don't see how you get that from my comment. I was using more of the universal you as in anyone that's curious should try it now.that they can and make their own opinions on it. I wasn't saying you based your opinion on hearsay.", "I love that desert map with the armoured train so much. The Gallipoli maps are some of my favourites too. \n\nBF1 made trench warfare so exciting. I never knew I could have so much fun running around in the mud.", "Battlefield has always been buggy on launch remember when collapsing the center building in siege of Shanghai would crash the lobby or cause most to disconnect?", "I bought the digital deluxe at launch and I didn’t know it got fixed until I tried it again in 2016, was playing BF3 the whole time. Seems to be beloved by the players now but I’ll always remember how buggy it was.", "It's def not a billion. Maybe a hundred million for the largest titles.", "Currently, assault rifles in the game are really inaccurate to the point where you can aim down sights and have your sight be right on the enemy and it still misses. It’s gotten to the point where people are starting to use SMGs more at longer ranges since they are more accurate.", "Dadada da dundun", "I was the exact same way, I knew nothing about it apart from the general hype. I saw some gameplay at launch and thought, \"this looks like skyrim but guns and technology instead of swords and magic\" and enjoyed the hell out of it.", "I don't think they could have done a better job with the UI and animation art style or the sound design and soundtrack.", "The expansions are going to be quietly dropped to avoid hype and expectation. The new roadmap has nothing for 2022. No man sky did something similar after their disastrous launch.", "Oh well thank god you never encountered a bug that hindered progress I guess everyone else's experience doesn't matter.\n\nLook dude we can argue about whether or not we liked the game forever, that's not my point. If you enjoyed the game good for you. Seriously. I don't care, but what bothers me is then going online and saying all the hate was unfounded. I don't understand how you can watch one of those videos and not see how much they screwed us over and straight up lied. At the end of the day this has nothing to do with graphics or bugs. Are you really happy with the fact that you can't do anything in the \"open world\"? You saying all that stuff is inconsequential I think speaks to just how pointless it being open world even is in the first place. Why didn't they just make it a fully linear game then? Are you seriously happy with the 'origin stories\" being completely unimportant despite (again) the devs saying how much they impact the game? Are you seriously happy with the wanted system being that cops just materialize out of thin air right behind you, and then just needing to basically go around a corner for them to disappear again? Is that fun? Again, why even include a wanted system in the first place if you're not going to make it even the slightest bit competent? Seriously. What's even the point.\n\nIf you genuinely don't see all the evidence of the devs straight up lying and greatly exaggerating things then I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty plain to see. There's a HUGE difference between showing footage that is still in development vs explicitly saying that there is going to be x, y, and z and then barely getting x... I'm saying this as someone who also didn't even buy into the hype, I only started actually paying attention to the game the month before it came out and saw all of this stuff after it came out and I was let down. Even with my tempered expectations I was let down .\n\nAgain, if you had fun with it, great, but don't get mad at me for being disappojnted that a game didnt deliver on most of its promises. This is like if a game developer so years talking about how they were going to make an amazingly immersive open world racing game and then they just release a shitty Garfield Mariokart clone. You can sit there and say \"hey I actually really like Mariokart type games!\" all you want and that's fine, but it's pretty objectively not what the devs promised.\n\nDon't you find it ironic you're making this big stand for cyberpunk in the comment section of a video showing the same thing happening with Battlefield? Don't you understand that it's consumers like you that ENABLE this exact fucking thing to happen over and over and over and over again?", "I'm actually confused by this because at the end of it all, it's a witcher 3 game. \n\nA lot of the system are brought over from witchter 3 and expanded, the hunting for monster with cyberpsychosis, the romance from 2 to 4 with different gender. The dialogue and choices were increased (more game ending, quests with more outcomes and variance than witcher 3). The AI and police is the exact same from witcher 3. Combat would be more subjective, but I've seen several videos of people doing dishonoured style kill videos so there are people out that who enjoys it. \n\nThe customization is an issue though. With the videos, most of it was actually explained if you watch through all of the pre-game interviews. Things like the shooting up random people in public for the police system, (the devs said before the game released that this is not the type of game where you go shoot things up like GTA but follows a narrative). There is a hugeeeeee disclaimer on the gameplay reveal that it is a work-in-progress and that things will be changed. \n\nEven the day and night cycle npc. Someone on reddit DID follow a npc, and the npc was indeed doing different activites. \n\nObjectively speaking... Cyberpunk is a game on par with witcher 3. The difference would be plot which some might not like (I personally liked it a lot) and the bugs hahahaha.", "Game industry is dying. Thats two high budget triple A games in less than a year that were delivered absolutely broken and unplayable.", "Pretty sure is going to be the witcher 1 all over again. It wasn't received well and CDPR release a edition on what was missing and fixed.", "lolz That final scene made my day", "Players need to stop buying them.", "You should check out his stream, he's also a bug magnet.", "BF4 launched in a pretty similar state full of technical bugs and glitches. Give it a few months and I'd be willing to bet 2042 is going to be pretty fun.\n\nThis is why you wait for reviews.", "Yup that's one of the first things I tell my team when we start a match. \"OK guys let's try to stick together!\"\n\nAnd yeah I literally found out about the 360 medal and no scope medal at the same exact time on accident. I was like... Holy shit...", "Horizon Zero Dawn is one of the best games I have ever played. The story is well written and characters are all alive and with their own insecurities and strengths. Also fuck Ted Faro.", "I’ve watched a fair amount of him playing it and you’re right, he genuinely enjoys it. Reddit just wants to jump on the hatewagon. I enjoy the game AND believe criticisms of it are fair, and shroud seems to as well. It can be both.", "A fellow man of culture I see.", "Its so weird how I can have 30+ hours in that game and experience like 3 glitches and other people will run into problems constantly. I hope dice gets their act together, battlefield is my most favorite franchise and this game has promise from what I've played so far.", "Yeah man, fuck the messenger for delivering a shit sandwich. It's definitely not anyone else's fault.", "Don't pay EA at all and they will be forced to actually do something.", "No more than an hour? Damn you must've blitzed the main story.", "Was that one npc that happened to actually do something? I'd love to see that, because there is a lot of footage of the alternative...just walking back and forth between point A and point B in clusters. I understand it's not supposed to be exactly like GTA but when you make claims that the AI is going to be deep and fleshed out and they all act like mindless robots that don't react to violence, endlessly walk back and forth between the same area, and you can't even interact with 99% of them I mean I wouldn't really call that fleshed out at all. Again, wouldn't care if the devs weren't the ones making these claims to begin with.", "Stop buying broken games", "BFV has some of the best armor gameplay i have seen outside of WarThunder. The Sherman v Panzer fights are really fun. But this took years for it to get good. Also the details of your tank getting dirty or a tank round blowing a hole in your armor was really well made.", "I'm a huge No Man's Sky fan, and Star Citizen would be right up my alley if it was actually a game and not an endless funding campaign. If you look at what Hello Games has accomplished since 2016 on NMS with literally 1/25 of RSI's staff, it's mind-boggling how little progress Star Citizen has made towards being a complete game. And don't even get me started on Squadron 42. 6 years after its initial release and it's still far away from being a beta, let alone a full release.", "It's weird I knew this was going to be dunkey before clicking", "Yeah I mean at some point CIG realized that there's more money to be made in stringing along a few whales than there is in actually releasing a game that could only run on 5% of computers anyway. \n\nBut my point wasn't on whether or not CIG is milking the player base. It was merely that the game is actively being developed and it's actually playable and quite fun and interesting as of right now.\n\nAnd they are achieving things in this game that haven't been done before. Like a lot of things. This game is the most impressive tech demo I've ever seen. There's something to be said about that. \n\nIt doesn't matter though because at this point you're either playing the game and enjoying it or you forgot it existed years ago. Or you're like me, I guess, and you play it once a year or so to catch up and then uninstall and wait for the next big update.\n\nEdit: also, the game having raised $400m doesn't mean it has costed $400m... That's a misconception. Millions have surely been spent, perhaps hundreds of millions, but if CIG wants to stay in business they have to manage their spending properly which means they're likely bringing in more than they're spending. They're not Rockstar. Rockstar spent $350m on GTAV with two thousand employees. If/when this game ever gets finished it will be substantially more complex than GTAV ever was, except they only have 600 employees currently, and years ago it was less than 100.", "Far cry 6 issue is the ai for me. It is a downgrade from FC5.", "Dunkey on /r/videos? ~~What year is it?~~", "Unfortunately it keeps selling more and more units and attracting more and more players. 2042 is no different. Reddit likes to complain (and are justified in doing so), but that hasn't stopped this from already being the biggest Battlefield in a long time. These companies will never change because junk like this keeps being super profitable.", "Uhhhh we did not play the same games. The AI in cyberpunk is not good, but ME2 is your bar? ME always had issues with abilities not hitting, squad mates being stupid, and guns that just kinda all felt the same.", "Nah he’s right, headshots only matter when shields are down", "They don’t HAVE to have cash flow before the game is finished. Movies cost more to produce, and don’t start generating revenue until they are done. There is no business necessity for creating games this way.", "Cyberpunk 2077 devs look like geniuses after EA dropped this fucking turd.", "I played my trial yesterday and people were driving the vehicles up the sides of the skyscrapers. \n\nI shot down a plane and the burning husk hovered in the sky spinning and launched flares for 5 mins (at least I got the kill)\n\nComplete lack of traction for anything on the desert maps\n\nBuggy POS", "The story is excellent and well done imo. The combat is fine. Sure, the city is a bit limp behind it all, but if you just play the core story missions then you never notice.", "You didnt know that they are paying out 1 mil to each tester? /s", "s n e k", "The Wake Island demo for the first battlefield was pretty solid.", "Cyberpunk struggled to do anything meaningful with their open world yes, but the story and actual combat was pretty satisfying, it just didn't have the level of GTA polish people were expecting for a future city San Andreas", "Just want to weigh in from personal experience, ive had bugs about 5 times after about 10 hours in game, mostly cannot spawn/revive bugs. Never fell through the ground.\n\nIve had fun with the game, i actually didnt know it was reviewed so badly until like 5 hours into the game when i looked at steam (i play through origin)\n\nThe biggest complaint i see from the reviews are comparisons to other battlefield games, and unpopular opinion but I dont see why the comparisons need to be made. It reminds me of teen titans (live action), the show itself is good (its even reviewed well on imdb) but i see people call it bad because it doesnt reflect what the cartoon was.\n\nFrom my point of view im fine judging the game based on itself as if the other battlefield games never existed and then a lot of the complaints I see just kind of arent based on anything.\n\nA lot of people are probably unluckier than I am when it comes to bugs, but they really havnt been as bad as this video would have led me to believe personally.\n\nThe one thing i do wish it had was more guns though, especially LMGs.\n\nI dont even think more modes would be a good thing, splitting the playerbase up makes longer matchmaking times.", "Seriously, the combat was solid. People are so dramatic, I swear.", "Yeah don't get me wrong, NMS is cool today. But it released as a hot pile of garbage and so if I'm gonna lump it into the seamless planetary landings pool I felt it was unfair to compare it's present day form to star citizen, a game still in pre-alpha. (Edit: and really the point was just that NMS is visually less impressive than SC. It's not ugly, but Star Citizen is photorealistic at times, and is always doing real time physics simulations that are beyond anything I've seen elsewhere)\n\nAlso, Squadron 42 has never been released. Unless you're referring to it's original planned release.", "Yeah, nothing has scratched the itch quite like Bad Company did. Crazy how all these tech advances and whatnot and it's always one step forward, several steps back. Bad Company and Bad Company 2 were fun games. Not perfect, but fucking fun. That was a true sandbox and had so much charm.", "Agreed.", "Other than the game breaking die and unable to respawn bug, I haven't seen any of this. is it because of my higher end pc?", "Its the best with the exception of storming the Titan itself, which is the like whole point of the mode. Those 4 separate corridors with a panel to unlock the reactor would turn into a complete slugfest, especially considering that attackers are constantly threatened by defending team attacking them from behind and in the end its just better to not even try assaulting the Titan unless you are dominating.\n\nSo only if devs would fix that.", ">Oh well thank god you never encountered a bug that hindered progress I guess everyone else's experience doesn't matter.\n\nI never said that? \n\n> Seriously. I don't care, but what bothers me is then going online and saying all the hate was unfounded.\n\nI believe a significant portion of it is. It's based on hot takes and memes. I understand being frustrated if you're a console player and the game wasn't playable at launch but that doesn't make it a garbage game.\n\n>Are you really happy with the fact that you can't do anything in the \"open world\"?\n\nYes. The world of Cyberpunk was extremely engaging. I don't need random minigames too pad it out for me. Night City is extremely fun to explore, I mean they even brought city engineers to design a city built incompetently. I mean [c'mon..](https://i.redd.it/3r0700zfodz71.jpg)\n\n>You saying all that stuff is inconsequential I think speaks to just how pointless it being open world even is in the first place.\n\nTo enjoy a beautifully crafted world and immerse yourself in the feeling of daily life within it? Being unable to go bowling doesn't change that for me. You're expecting a different genre of game, it's not a rockstar \"random minigames=immersion\". Things like tone, character, and atmosphere are way more important too immersiveness than mashing a button to win a drinking game. (That being said, Rockstar is exceptional at tone, character, and atmosphere.)\n\n>Why didn't they just make it a fully linear game then? Are you seriously happy with the 'origin stories\" being completely unimportant despite (again) the devs saying how much they impact the game?\n\n... They constantly are brought in and provide alternate methods for finishing quests, different items, and dialogue choices. What exactly did you want from the different origins? You literally can comment on tuning a motorcycle with the right skill and origin, and when you get it as a gift much later in the game it's a improved version. It pops up pretty frequently to give you options in quests, or flesh out the universe..\n\n>Are you seriously happy with the wanted system being that cops just materialize out of thin air right behind you, and then just needing to basically go around a corner for them to disappear again?\n\nThat was fixed in the literal first patch. Again, the game is not grand theft auto, you're not meant to play it as if it was.\n\n>Again, why even include a wanted system in the first place if you're not going to make it even the slightest bit competent?\n\nToo discourage players from randomly going on murder sprees. That isn't a challenge you're meant to overcome. Why is this tiny mechanic so relevant to your opinion of the game? It has nothing to do with the gameplay loop, it has nothing to do with the narrative, it has nothing to do with the mechanics.\n\n>If you genuinely don't see all the evidence of the devs straight up lying and greatly exaggerating things then I don't know what to tell you.\n\nBecause these things are so dramatically over-exaggerated and have absolutely no impact on the quality of the game itself. It sounds like you feel personally spurned by the fact they hyped their game up. I didn't invest in that hype so the game I got was way above my expectations.\n\n>Again, if you had fun with it, great, but don't get mad at me for being disappojnted that a game didnt deliver on most of its promises.\n\nI'm not mad at you? You downvoted me man, not the other way around.. I just disagree with your points, which are typical and verbatim the same points I've heard 'haters' state and it always turns out they've never actually played it, or played the first 5 minutes and formed their conclusions based on that and youtube videos. If you didn't like the game that's fine, but don't try and present yourself as an authority, when you haven't actually played the game, y'know? If I'm dismissive or coming across as annoyed, it comes from having heard all this before, and not agreeing with it then, but that's not how I'm trying to come across so I apologize. I just think some of these criticisms are blatantly wrong. (But it's all subjective in the end)\n\n>This is like if a game developer so years talking about how they were going to make an amazingly immersive open world racing game and then they just release a shitty Garfield Mariokart clone\n\nNo, this is like the devs releasing an amazingly immersive open world racing game and because it didn't have a minigame for going to the mechanic to replace the break pads and change the tires people say its a shitty garfield mariokart clone. (Really what is cloned about Cyberpunk? What is typical about it?)\n\n>Don't you understand that it's consumers like you that ENABLE this exact fucking thing to happen over and over and over and over again?\n\nYou're blaming me for games being released in a buggy state? Mate, that's how video games have been released for decades now. Great thing about bugs is they can be fixed. Sometimes when the bugs get fixed, you have a game underneath made with passion, that has character, that is legitimately a great game. Like New Vegas. Sometimes it makes no difference and the game is another paint by numbers corporate cash grab, like Madden or Assassins Creed Unity.\n\nA game can be good and undercooked on release. We've seen this before. But it's very obvious that cyberpunk wasn't just a cash grab with no love put into it. Google a guy named Mike Pondsmith. He's one of the original creators of cyberpunk 2020, and played a large part in crafting the tone and character of the game. \n\nBut honestly, how far did you get? What makes the skill system so trash? What's typical about the game?", "Yeah I have a different experience. 2042 has some game design issues, but nothing that is impossible to fix. Bugs wise I have only encountered the revive issue and official servers not letting join like 3% of the time. Other than that it's good. Honestly people complain about classes being gone, but no one seems to care that you can be basically any combo of class which is always pitched as a negative just cuz Battlefield always had classes. 2042 seemed to want to lean into more expressive play styles and less rigid class design. Love it or hate it that's where we are at right meow", "Well if we're still using bullets 50 years from now when the game takes place, you can't really defeat physics and I wouldn't expect that either.", "Sounds so fun", "The problem is when you point this out, especially when they're dropping their first teaser trailers, people get PISSED at you. They so badly want to believe EA will deliver a good product on time, for the first time in their lives.", "Agree that was an amazing game...", "Meanwhile I’m playing Witcher III for the first time and loving it. Patient gamers always win, especially nowadays.", "Lol", "Free multiplayer? I might have to check that out", "Titan was next LVL ... Jumping out at the end was simply epic", "I feel like people were expecting BF2042 to be packed with all the content of—say—Battlefield 3, fully expanded with all DLC. People are forgetting everything that’s actually been added in the game that’s creating such a great foundation to build off of. \n\nIt’s such a huge scope that needed mass feedback from the player base to catch everything anyway. If they came out the gate saying “yeah the game’s complete and perfect, this is all you get” with no intention to fix these bugs or add anything new, then sure, you got reason to riot. But it’s a live service game that will be supported for years to come, and right out the gate they’ve been very vocal on identifying and fixing these problems people are experiencing. Fixes are coming. Content is coming.\n\nAnd Portal! That alone is already such a giveback to the Battlefield community, with the freedom to create and play around in such a huge sandbox. You know they’ll be tracking the most popular game modes and content coming out of it, crafting official modes or creating special events.\n\nThis game has set a new bar for what’s possible in Battlefield, and new content is coming our way to expand upon it. I’m chillin, enjoying the game in all its chaos, looking forward to what’s to come.", "The maps are crazy wide open. There’s no cover! These maps are a far cry from BF1", "Legends say that the said body is still ragdolling to this day", "Bugs aside the content itself is just not worth $60. Glad for those having fun, however ripped off they got.", "Wow. So don't ever get it?", "She shallow 🎶🎶🎶🎶", "You'll never get everyone on board with that. The best we can hope is to deny them some money from sales.", "Oh yes... Night visions and grappling hook damn that was amazing... Oh and the way jets and choppers would handle with a stick was incredible", "'No man's sky' was another \n\nI think cp2077 was notable because it came from cdpr who most people assumed wouldn't put out a game that was clearly missing like 50% of the content promised", "The more I think about that game rhe more depressed I get", "BF4 did have a full game's worth of content though..\n\nPeople keep glossing over this with 2042.", "I didn't even care about the police spawn.\n\nExplosives fucked me over in that game more than anything. Take down an entire crime syndicate, and a single mine goes off and kills me from full hp. Driving in a car and the anti-crime turret blows up my car in one shot killing me", "It was there when it came out (or in beta I don't remember) but it was removed since it was making the map buggy and breaking stuff. It was a good call in the end", "I fell thru the floor in the one high rise. Elevator to hell that is.", "BF4 was the best imo, with the amount of unlocks and customization etc", "I mean, they do have a rep of constantly improving the game after its launched.\n\nCompare even well received games like TW3 from launch till now.", "Amazing", "Eh, everyone there LOVES Halo and just want to see it improve. The sub is def overrun with it rn but everyone there is a fan.", "$400m and counting for Star Citizen", "Watching this fiasco makes me a little more at ease with potentially waiting until 2023 for the full release of Baldur's Gate 3.", "But imagine paying for a new game that is worse than the predecessors... Rip off regardless of how much fun there is to be had.", "Aren't most political speeches written ahead of time by speech writers and then practiced ahead of time by the speaker? I assume there are several revisions and edits and practice runs - and that never occurred to anyone beforehand?", "He said that because he didn't want a clip of him saying \"Battlefool on me\"", "People still play that game?", "I put in 100 hours and after a while I just gave up. I was just playing to pass the time, not cause I was enjoying it. Haven’t touched it since January.", "To be honest people were expecting a bit much. CDPR put out one well-regarded game and honestly I think it still suffered from the same bloat as most other open-world games.", "Its just really really sad. Like if they would just make the game the trailer shows, they would have infinite money. But they cant do it, they cant do the long term quality for the short turn profits. Its so absurdly ridiculous its enough to make you want to spit in the executive faces.", "What an absolute embarrassment", "[It is, by a lot.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ListOfComments/wiki/downvoted)", "Zip lines are the ultimate real life hack.\n\nNothing bad can happen to you while you are on the zip line.\n\n\n…cliffhanger movie is in shambles", "Balan wonderworld didn't even get the name right.\n\nIt should've been Balan Wonderland. It rhymes, it was right there", "I remember it crashing my 360 at the time lmao, the only game that did that. Also there was a graphical glitch that made everything look trippy.", "why on earth would you compare minecraft to star citizen? Its shit like this that makes it clear as day you have no idea what you are talking about.", "2077 wasn't anything like this...", "But what about those sweet sweet pre-order only bonuses?!", "lmao no there isnt", "The thing is, no other game (franchise) comes close to offering what battlefield does… so EA knows they can push it out the door half baked and still make money hand over fist.", "I mean monetization is egregious. I personally don't care about that stuff but its never a good sign. The gameplay is great though.", "New Vegas was a good game underneath all that jank. A true combination of the worldbuilding, aesthetic and RPG options of 1/2 and the gameplay and exploration of 3. Not to mention Obsidian also put out fantastic DLC on top of all the bugfixing.\n\nCyberpunk is still a pretty mediocre game underneath the numerous bugs of the release and any attempts to fix that has been delayed to Soon™.", "True, and even on release w3 had its share of problems", "Yeah you hit the nail on the head. The only thing didn’t like is the amount of weapons it’s gives you. totally forgot about the pass with other operators coming. I have been having fun with portal and even more with the rules editor as it’s simply just coding but with UI. I have not heard what else is coming with the dlc other than operators but is it going to be maps and weapons too?", "Yup and now that Reddit removed archived comments, people can still go and downvote it. I encourage anyone who hasnt done so to do it.", "Y’all don’t see people", "Ah man, that Neymar Jr. animation near the end of the video is on-point. LOVE IT", "That it is by a huge margin too. 2nd place only has -88k compared to 668k\n\n[2nd place](https://www.reddit.com/r/thanosdidnothingwrong/comments/8w36hi/lets_keep_things_balanced_before_the_ban_shall_we/e1sb9mv?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)", "Around 180 million people according to the unverified google search results.", "Nothing new here, there's a whole game that's just meant to glitch around, it's called Goat Simulator.", "crwobat", "https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk/comments/q5tgbj/i_followed_an_npc_in_the_trailer_park_for_the/\n\nHere! My guess is that there are different classes of NPCs. Some are used just to fill crowds, the ones that can be removed and added on using the crowd settings. Then there are crafted NPCs where you can follow them during the day. This is just MY own speculation so don't put any salt on it hahaha. \n\nHave they tried following the NPC through out the day? I recall seeing some videos like that back it was like an invisible wall which seems more like a bug. Perhaps they can try following a non bugged NPC and see if it has a cycle. If they don't follow, how can they claim that it doesn't have a cycle. 🤷‍♂️\n\nHahahaha yeah, personally I think the biggest problem for Cyberpunk 2077 was actually the marketing (and the bugs). They hyped it up too much... From my experience, the past decades there are countless games that claims to have multiple endings the way you want, do whatever you want, latest in ai technology, but all fell short of marketing. \n\nIf we look at it objectively, AI in Cyberpunk can be said to be \"better\" as compared to Witcher 3. More movements in NPC, more varied reactions to us (pointing a gun at NPC). Actually a day and night cycle for some NPCs. It is better than Witcher 3's ai but yeah... Overhyped so people have very high expectations. What kind of interaction were people hoping for in the NPCs crowd? A full dialogue? They did random oneliner which is much more feasible than like a conversation with anyone you interact with. Games have done dialogues but those were on the rails kind, like Metros Exodus. Limited NPC so personalised dialogues are much more feasible. In Cyberpunk where you need crowd size it'l becomes impossible unless you spend a huge chuck of your budget doing crowd dialogues and optimization so it does lag omeverything out.", "When will EA actually face consequences?", "TLOU2 is my bar.", "In an alternate universe... The release date kept getting sooner and sooner!", "Spawns inside apartment behind you. Flee 50 feet down the road, “Damn! He’s the next precinct’s problem now.”", "Sorry, am I not allowed to dislike it?", "They've already fixed a significant portion of the bugs already, at least those related to stability. (They had a pretty big engine overhaul patch about a month ago. Broke a bunch of mods.) 2077 does world building and aesthetics particularly well.\n\nI mean it's subjective. I get it. I just think you might be underestimating the game based on the rep it got. I make the New Vegas comparison because it's literally my favorite game since that. Keep in mind that CDPR have made some great DLC's and support a game long after its released. Compare TW3 now from it's launch, for example.", "My suspicion is that they have different teams that get roped in to fix/unfix stuff. You have the primary dice dev team, then the dev team that supports the game while the main team begins their next project.\n\nOnce the support team screws it up bad enough, they rope in a few from the primary team who fix it to much applause. Then they go back to making new stuff and the support team unfixes it by proceeding with their original plans. Rinse and repeat.", "the hovercrafts in this game are such a joke that they'll be a BF meme forever. top of a skyscraper, defending your point, and all of a sudden a hovercraft crests over the edge... because they can climb buildings, too!", "3. You’re completely misunderstanding what he said lmao. Community moderation does not equal an anti cheat program", "You’re allowed to feel however the hell you want about it, but if 2077 is really ‘shit’ in your mind i think either you’re exaggerating or your standards are too high for a shooter RPG.", "Yeah, this was my experience, too. I came on reddit and saw people complaining about the AI behaviour when you grenade a traffic jam, or the police spawns if you get a huge wanted level. And I'm not saying those weren't done badly - they obviously were - but those aren't things that I encountered in my playthrough at all because I wasn't trying to play it like I'd play a GTA game.\n\nI had a great time with the game. It obviously has its flaws - the itemisation is pretty shallow, combat feels very \"solved\" later on, the open world is lacking (although I still loved wandering around and taking it all in) - but the writing and voice acting felt like some of the best I've experienced in a game. I can't think of a game where the characters' dialogue has felt so natural. And the way dialogue and decision-making were integrated so smoothly into the gameplay was incredible. Where other games tell you all your options and then ask you to pick one, in Cyberpunk 2077 your choice are selected through actions - breaking in via a top-floor window and then stealthing through a building can have a different outcome to going in the front door and killing everyone, for instance. I know it made some people felt like they had less options because the points where they were making decisions weren't signposted, but I found it incredible, honestly.\n\nUltimately, I think Cyberpunk was always going to disappoint a lot of people, even without technical issues. Similarly to No Man's Sky, so many people had their own, wildly different ideas about what it was going to be and it was never going to meet all the expectations from everyone. Some people expected futuristic GTA, some people expected a fully immersive sim (although, honestly, I feel like it has quite a lot of immersive sim elements in some aspects of the game), some people expected something like old BioWare CRPGs. But, strangely enough, not many people seemed to expect The Witcher 3 but in a futuristic city.", "One of my favorite Bush-isms lol", "Honestly I’m just waiting to hear that the gunplay is tolerable. I may be weird but I honestly find the glitches and bugs fun some times. Like I’m not gonna lie this video actually made me want to buy the new battlefield more. I know it’s weird but I’m weird.", "It’s the best part of the song (great song still)", "Battlefield 2 sucked at launch, too", "but honestly, gameplay should be a priority for a game..", "I go to Dairy Queen expecting ice cream but they instead tried to serve me frozen yogurt. I told them I came here for ice cream, and they insisted it was ice cream. When I looked at the cup it even said frozen yogurt. When I pointed that out they said its a new recipe because ice cream is toxic now. I said I don't want this and got my money back. You've just decided that frozen yogurt is an acceptable replacement for ice cream, and in a few years people won't even remember what ice cream tasted like.", "It’s almost 2022 y’all - if you’re still pre-ordering games you’re a fucking clown.", ">I felt it was unfair to compare it's present day form to star citizen, a game still in pre-alpha.\n\nI mean, considering NMS was made by like 15 people and has been in development for less time than Star Citizen, I'd say it's entirely fair.\n\n>Squadron 42 has never been released. Unless you're referring to it's original planned release.\n\nYeah, was referring to the planned release date. If it had actually released as planned at least they'd have something to show for all these years of development.", "There is still a glitch that happens to me ever few games where my gun won't load, but my hands are still up and I can't shoot basically with my finger. There is another issue where characters won't load and its just floating guns shooting at me. This has been a rough launch!", "Neymar mechanics. Gotta sell it so the game knows you got shot", "This is the second time I've had to point out that I'm not the one that brought up Minecraft in the first place. Do Star Citizen fans lack reading comprehension? xD \n\n\nI know relatively well what I'm talking about. You've been [asking for a release date](https://www.reddit.com/comments/6g5jwq/_/dio97x8/?context=999) since 2017 lol.", "and Gmod.", "He took the crowbat approach and let the game speak for itself. Hopefully crowbat comes back for either gta or battlefield.\n\nEdit: crowbcat which makes even less sense then crowbat.", ">1 - 3 years for BFV", "It was great. I got 39 kills and took 8 tags. It would have been a lot worse but I was a few beers in and it took me a little while to realize what was happening.", "> If you know you're going to get the game no matter what\n\nA fool and his money", "Oh please tell me Crowbcat is going to get in on this.", "Funny how a video with zero commentary cna be so funny", ">begin new era of gaming. It did, just not how we thought it would\n\nImagine thinking this is new", "He did the same thing with Battlefront 2 when the devs gave him 1000s of credits to buy everything in the original P2W system and he was hardcore defending it.", "How to say your game developers were outsourced without saying your game developers were outsourced", "Lol a billion dollars to produce a game 😂", "What did you just say about Kojima??!", "I know the video game player and DICE can coexist peacefully.", "Duuuuude this just had me dying. Perfect depiction of what I’ve read so far. I don’t know if there’s ever been another product I’ve ever googled and seen a legit 1.7 stars.", "CP2077 doesn't deserve any praise. They deliberately lied to fans and quite literally stole their money. I don't care if they and No man's Sky later patched the game to cure cancer. Stop rewarding and praising people who lie to you and steal your money, just because they eventually did the right thing (at gunpoint).", "... they literally killed their relationship with sony to give refunds for the playstation version. It wasnt any buggier on PC than skyrim, new vegas, neverwinter nights 2, witcher 1/2, stalker, fallout 4 at launch...\n\nDid you ever play it? Take that as a No...", "Npc-cars are on a rail. What other game has that shit?", "Rockstar spent $137Mil on GTA 5 development and $128Mil marketing it prior to release. It made $1Bil in revenue within the first 3 days. That was 8 years ago, releasing in Sept of 2013.", "Lmao you had me in the first half", "i feel like you haven’t played the other recent battlefield games, theres no way you wouldn’t feel negatively towards 2044 if you have. it’s not a new IP, it will be compared to the other BF’s no matter what. and not only that but it lacks in many aspects compared to older BF titles like weapons, maps, modes, a campaign mode. All of this on-top of having tons of bugs. feels like they put the least amount of work yet asking for the same price as the other entries.", "Didn't buy or play BFV, but I heard they were starting to turn things around with the Pacific front content.\n\nThen they introduced that Tom Cruise themed DLC pack and then made awful balance changes nobody wanted, and apparently the player decline was so sharp after that they just abandoned the game entirely, foregoing the planned content paying customers were promised at purchase.", "Some people are just big fans of things. Halo, Resident Evil, Forza, The Legend of Zelda... plenty of big franchises that don't often miss. And like I said, refunds have removed nearly all of the risk of preordering. It's really just not a big deal anymore.", "One of the best things they've done is not deleting that comment, I appreciate that at least.", "Can't say that's something I noticed.\n\nAs with all games with NPC cars, I just drive past them.", "Ryzen 3600, GTX 970, and I can't set the settings low enough to get 60 FPS, so I just set them on High and enjoy my 25-35 FPS. At least it looks nice.\n\nGod, I wish I had DLSS.", "Better yet, Its assigned to a Dev that got let go just before launch and no one remembered to reassign his workload.", "Did being lied to by the company bother you? Jesus you chumps deserve to be pocket raped. They lie to you, steal your money, then months later give you an \"acceptable-sort-of\" version of what you were promised and what you paid for, and then you come here and praise them for it. \n\nSMH, you're as much the problem as they are.", "Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. Halo has always been good about that. It's critical for fun/close games.\n\nApex never had a good MMR, so it was like really incredible players who either started the season late, or are on a smurf account just stomping everyone else. Literally no fun.", "Fucking gold.", "I’m on PS4 and having a great time. I’ve had a few bugs but it’s one in a bunch of games. It’s no BF1 for me but it’s still fun. I can honestly say the biggest qualm I have with it is lacking environment and atmosphere. It doesn’t feel like “war”.", "Lol Tbf I stopped at 4.", "I mean that might be an over the top example, but they advertised the game as having something like \"the most immersive living open world ever created\". And considering the budget, development time, and the fact that the game came out over seven years after GTA 5, I don't think people were that ridiculous for having high expectations. The fact that the open world can't compete in any category but visuals with GTA 3* is an absolute fucking joke.", "Honestly the art doesn’t even look consistent between the video and gameplay. That sunset F5 tornado looks way better than high noon F2", "Lol. Im the problem huh? \n\nI didn't watch any of the hype. In retrospect, I watched those videos people made bitching about it, and most of the complaints was about literal alpha footage with huge NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FINAL PRODUCT label across the screen. Oh no they couldnt implement every feature they wanted too clearly theyre evil liars.\n\nEither way, I didnt give a fuck about the hype. I bought the game because im fond of the cyberpunk genre, and it blew me out of the water. I couldn't figure out why everyone hated it so much. At this point I figure its all from people who never actually played the game and just meme about it/get mad that they talked about a handful of features that didnt make it that arent really that important, but where made into a big deal because it wasnt perfect at launch.\n\nDid you play it?", "I had no knowledge about the cheaters and decided to try it before 2042 came out. Holy shit. Does anyone actually play that game legit? Half of both teams had aimbots.", "The only thing that accomplishes is getting an echo chamber of toxic positivity instead. Both are shit subs.", "I bought it for a fiver on Steam a couple weeks ago and the game is awesome. Can absolutely recommend it", "Wait. What the fuck is going on. Wasn’t there a BF game just released?", "The Vega 64 isn't even 5 years old....", "Maybe not peaked not it definitely sharply declined after 3", "People that said 'BuT it's OnLy ThE BeTa!' KEKW", "Look into NIS, you might get extra 10-15 FPS through that", "Play Halo infinite", "> toxic positivity", "> I hope everyone who is feeling buyer's remorse right now learns from this.\n\nWe've been hoping for this ever since Spore came out lol", "What platform did you play it on? I played it on the PS4 and it’s… not good 😳", "yeah, Apex was fun for like a month, and then everyone got good, and I just got stomped because I don't wanna play a game for 4 hours a day just to be good enough to compete.\n\nMost multiplayer games are like this. I really enjoy games before they have a \"meta\".", "Across it's lifetime it'll almost certainly go down as the most played game of all time. It's not as popular in the west anymore and will probably never reach its peak here again but just take a look at the Chinese playerbase. \n\nIn fact, based on hours, it could very well be the most consumabed media of all time.", "Can confirm, janky shit in every match. Oh man, I'm crying from laughing and a bit of sadness", "NIS is just a resolution scaler like FSR, it won't offer me anything valuable. DLSS at least trades minor overhead for enhanced detail, NIS is just me setting my game to 720p.", "> Game had a passion behind it.\n\nThat was really its saving grace. The story provides a sense of real atmosphere and tone to the game.\n\nI think of something like Fallout 4, and there’s more polish there, arguably better hashed-out systems, and more innovation in the genre… but it’s ultimately a soulless husk. Without the IP behind it, it’s an empty and meaningless world— not in the way that fallout games are intended to be, rather in a shiny corporate shit pile kind of way.\n\nCyberpunk has some real soul in it along with crackling traces of wild ambition that were cut short by mismanagement.\n\nAnd in spite of it all, it’s still a good ride when given an honest shot.", "There's an old saying in a Gang Starr song—I know it's in a Cole song, probably in a Starr song...", "See Sega and the Sonic franchise", "Yes, what do you not understand?", "Look in this thread. Tons of chumps proudly proclaiming \"yeah, but they sort of fixed it 2 years later, so what's the problem?\" With idiots like that filling the pockets of these companies, why would they bother with the effort of making a quality product?", "I have the beta Ramus skin, but I haven't played in many years. I am just surprised its still so big, but if its blowing up in China that makes sense.", "Well in his honest opinion he would have stopped playing the game a while ago if it weren't for the wingsuit, so... Yeah.", "Why are you so angry?", "I wasn’t promised anything. I didn’t know anything about the game beyond a vague recognition of the name until the final marketing push.\n\nAt that point, to me it was just a sci-fi rpg featuring Keanu Reeves in a world reminiscent of blade runner. I was in, and I didn’t regret it.", "What's star citizen at funding wise these days lol", "Calm down.", "Yeah you could Tell the game is especially bad when he had to go in source clips from other people and couldn't make the video with just the footage that he would have made from the bugs he saw.\n\nI'm not defending the game in any way, but this video makes things seem a lot worse than they are.", "> Most multiplayer games are like this. I really enjoy games before they have a \"meta\".\n\nExactly. I enjoy getting good, but there's a limit to that.\n\nLike, I'm not going to sit there watching YT videos, then going into the gun range to nail down my bullet spread and stuff like that. \n\nI feel like at that point you're not even playing to enjoy the game, you're \"playing\" to be competitive. Which is a different thing I'm not interested in.", "It even has Bot support and the AI is apparently pretty decent so you can practice against bots for a while.\n\nBeen meaning to try it out.", "He mixed footage from a bugs compilation posted before his video with the trailer and cashed out. 🤷‍♂️", "crowbcat?", "If I prove you wrong, will you put your money where your mouth is and donate 100 USD to a charity and then delete your account?", "/r/classicbattlefield baby", "Good one, George.", "This is what happens when game studios are forced to over promise and under deliver because the rights holders insist on handing out the work to the lowest bidders.\n\nThanks capitalism!", "How exactly positivity can be toxic.\n\nI mean, I can understand how it may annoy someone who's on the hate bandwagon...", "Have you tried looking into Squad? It’s slower placed as it is has more mil-sim gameplay, but is exactly what you describe. Big open maps with objectives that require actual teamwork and communication if you want to succeed.", "The bullet sponging just makes it all the more satisfying when you finally get a gun that can obliterate common enemies with a headshot. That Johnny Silverhand memory which is likely your first experience with a good gun is one of the highlights of the game IMO. I also love how much mobility you’re able to get with some upgrades. The double jump, air dash, and slow motion thing are all really fun.", "[1. here is the censorship. ](https://i.imgur.com/liVRN77.jpg)\n\n2. I could have worded it better, but because your angry ass read way too much into what I was saying, let me explain. BF3 and 4 had community run servers. These servers were moderated by community anti cheat. What does that mean? \n\n> We could vote to kick hackers\n\n> We could vote to ban hackers\n\n> We could call up an admin that would kick or van\n\n> Admins/moderators could set rules that could catch cheaters using pbbans and Fair Fight. I'm not exactly familiar to how these worked but if someone was caught cheating, it was immediately dealt with. If it wasn't, it would be days later through spectator recordings shared with admins. \n\n3. If BF5 has anticheat, ever, no one saw it at work. If you ever played in Asia, where I'm from, we would see the same hackers months after being reported. \n\n\n4. Please delete your account. \n\n5. For your forgiveness, donate 100$ to the UNHRC. \n\n6. Shame on you for defending EA/DICE.", "You very eluqoently expressed how I feel about it. It really does have 'soul', and Its sad that people will miss out on it because they didn't give it a real chance.\n\nButs its all subjective in the end", "I played 10 hrs on xbox x and 10 hrs on pc and didn't buy the game yet. Gamepass is amazing and saved me a lot of money all ready", "I'd argue that there are plenty of modern firearms that handle recoil and spread better than their counterparts from 50 years ago. Innovations to ergonomics and materials can make a big difference.", "Reminded me of tenet", "Crowbat. He does YouTube videos like this one where he just shows gameplay with no commentary. He took a break until Cyberpunk came out showing just how bad it was.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/omyoJ7onNrg", "Wow 1 day after launch? The game is years old now and every server in my region has a hacker on it. If it is so bad and the anticheat doesn't quickly deal with the problem, am I not justified to say it doesn't? If every server has a cheater on it in my region, where it becomes a chore to find a server, am I not justified to feel that there is no anticheat?", "For me personally the fun in the combat is being able to take out enemies in a huge variety of ways that isn’t just “hide behind cover and poke your gun out to shoot every 5 seconds” like in most FPS games. Sure the AI sucks, but the game systems surrounding combat are really good.", "I haven't bought an EA game since BF3. Bought the game and first expansion at launch, then got progressively locked out of the game when \"premium\" launched. Appalling.", "The bodies at the end. I was laughing so hard I was crying. Also totally correct the game is nothing like trailer", "I remember getting BF4 bundled in with a pair of headphones because it wasn't selling well. By that time they had fixed most of the problems. Damn that was a great game. One of my favorite campaigns too - even though it was a bit short, it was so immersive.", "$400 million and is currently the most expensive (non)game in history.", "There is a saying, \"don't argue with idiots. They will bring you to their level and beat you with experience.\" \n\nI'm beaten. I give up. You win.", "That USED to be true but modern AAA titles have often blown way past the most expensive films ever made", "Bf4 took years. Even still today there are some wild bugs to be encountered.", "Just in time for the next title to be announced probably another ww2 shooter and the servers to empty out. Nice.", "You are an idiot.", "Ok we are talking about the same guy. I wasn't trying to be a dick, I was just trying to make sure. I'm a big fan of his \"GTA IV is better than GTA V\" video", "The highest costing game in history and its still not even half a billion. It actually just hit 400MM a few days ago.", "It's the new alpha/beta testing - why pay people to test your game, when others are willing to pay you to let them test it. Everyone used to think that you tested games in order to improve the quality to increase sales, but EA/Activision/Ubisoft proved that notion was a myth. You can hype a game, release it with minimal quality testing, players will buy it and report all the bugs and technical issues for you for free - you just have swallow the online stigma and jokes, which the millions of dollars make it pretty easy to swallow.", "Battlefield 3 and 4 where busted as all fuck when they released and plenty of redditors love to jerk it every time modern fps come up", "That's not entirely how movies work. \n\nMany films are backed and financed before they are released, which means they already had that capital to pay the people of the film. \n\nThen the people who backed it are reimbursed with the first if the money after release. \n\nSo yes, a movie is funded very similar to a video game, there needs to be money to pay people first before it can be made.", "the 1980s video game crash happened because everyone started to produce whatever piece of crap they thought would sell. \n\nI wonder if they'll bury Battlefield in the desert", "Similar to almost all the other big companies currently. They're running on reputation. Put out an absolute minimalist product that technically \"works,\" but has almost zero actual QA or dedicated bug fixing outside of the most visible game-breaking stuff.\n\nI'm genuinely curious how long it will take to burn through that reputation.", "You insulted me first and gave 0 understanding to my post. I might have exaggerated some things, but you, you have given me 0 understanding to what I said. \n\nNot sure why you are so angry.\n\nYou should calm down. \n\nIt isn't good for your health.", "It’s actually really enjoyable in big team battles", "I really like halo infinite gameplay but they definitely have some core issues to solve if they want the game to last. Some of the glaring issues: unable to select gamemodes, assuming this will be fixed on official release. The spawns on some of the small 4v4 maps are atrocious, in ranked sometimes I get shot a second or two after spawning, and the melee is awful, it can't decide if you'll lunge or not and when you do it throws your camera around to where you can't even see your enemy without spinning around. \n \nI love halo, and I only point out these flaws because the game has so much potential to be great.", "I was unaware of this change. Thanks!", "Planetside 2 is still my go to shooter", "Battlefield 4 was so bad on launch, I remember alt+f4’ing so much that everyone on the Skype call (discord wasn’t a thing yet) became completely unsurprised when someone else would just leave the squad.\n\nI also remember entire nights trying to troubleshoot issues. The game was literally unplayable, like it wouldn’t launch, for entire days. Thank god for DIce LA who swooped in and saved us - which they’ve kind of also done for BF2042 but I think the game is actually fine and everyone is kind of being a little bitch about it.", "For the memes..", "This 'trailer' reminded me very much of the launch bugs in 2142. They really couldn't figure out how to make the titans move, and have the players moving on the titans at the same time.\n\nGood times!", "Sadly many people do. They think that since it is from a big company, it won't have hacking issues. Yet here we are, every server has a hacker on it. I truly loved playing it when there were no hackers the first few times.", "They at least gave a 10 hour trial with the $5 EA pass, of which I have 8 hours left because I couldn’t get past that far lol", "https://i.imgur.com/x1wu8Uf.png\n\nYou keep dropping the c", "Fast melee builds using the slow motion implant have been completely broken since the release of the game. If you get attack speed too high you literally can not light attack during slow mo, rendering entire builds pointless. Kinda ruined the whole thing for me tbh.", "I only own Battlefield 1 and don’t really care about any other Battlefield, but after watching this video I kind of want to buy this.", "BF2 over everything, although BC2 was good in its own way IMO. BF3 began the whole “compete directly with CoD” thing (I believe the marketing was literally “answer the call” or something like that) and everything went downhill from there.", "A new Era?, You idiots deserved that game", "I hope nobody believed what they saw in a trailer...made by EA. I'm happy I completely stopped buying their games. Ita such a waste that they have bought a lot of good franchise and utherly destroyed them all, systematicly.", "in case you didn’t know, you could probably sell that account for a decent chunk of cash. few hundred bucks at least i’d guess.", "Still an idiot.", "For real, I haven't experienced anything terrible and very few bugs on my pc. I've had some bugs sure, but nothing like seen in the videos. Anyone expecting perfect performance from sub 500$ gaming systems should be a little more aware that they need to pay more for better performance.", "To mean it wasn't FFXIV or SWTOR?", "My bad. Always thought it said crowbat. Crowbcat makes even less sense.", "Love the description: \"They should do a game that's like the trailer for Battlefield.\"", "Sorry I thought you were just questioning who is was. Never realized there's a c in there.", "TBH for any major single player game that im interested in I want to go in totally blind. \n\nEven if its a rip off, and I hate it, I want it to be 100% my view, untainted by positive or negative views by others. \n\nOf course, this only applies to games Im really interested in in the first place. Like CP77 or Starfield. \n\nLike, good or bad. I want to play it blind and have my own view.", "This video is brilliant", "Really? Damn I am going to look into that. Thanks.", "Didn't Battlefield 1 come out like 3 or 4 years ago? How do they put out such shit when it's not even a yearly release?", "Games shite with or without bugs.", "Me wondering how they pulled out that trailer gameplay so smoothly without someone falling into another dimension", "Yeah that's fair. Our rifles do handle the recoil and spread better. But those were mostly improvements in gun quality and training and absolutely did not eradicate it. And I'm just saying I'd be surprised if recoil could somehow be significantly reduced in another 50 years. Physics simply can't be overcome with our current weapons.", "I think you're putting a lot of words in my mouth and also assuming I'm the one downvoting you. I haven't, that must be others in the thread. I get that you've had this argument before but I never once mentioned something like bowling or random mini games you are just assuming that's my argument. I'm talking about things like random encounters in the world that give you quests that aren't just marked on your map. Characters who give you special items by talking to them or giving them something. Things that actually encourage you to explore and to justify it being an open world to begin with. I stopped playing somewhere towards the end of the main story with a lot of the side missions completed, and I never experienced any of that. Iirc that was yet another thing they said would be in the games - random encounters and such. Same thing with the origin stories affecting things. The only payoff I ever encountered from that was an occasional new dialogue option where the NPC would, effectively, just go \"Oh wow good job I can see you have x backstory\" and then things would just continue as normal. Maybe I just missed all the chances for them to matter, but they never felt like they mattered. It never felt too immersive.\n\nA big well designed city only gets you so far. Yeah the art direction is cool, the city is interesting but I didn't find myself too interested in exploring it once I realized how little there is to actually do. Again, what's the point of it being open world you could still get immersed in the exact same city if it was a linear game.\n\nThe combat is of course going to be more subjective but I just found it flat and boring. The melee combat especially it's just the same 3 animations over and over, it was always hard to even tell if I was hitting them, and nothing had any impact. The gunplay was hardly better it just felt very boring and generic, even with things like hacking. I found most firefights to be either so incredibly boring that I eventually was just walking straight up to people not even trying to take cover and shooting them/hitting them over the head with a hammer and doing just fine. The only times I couldn't do that were when the complete opposite was true when the enemies were so overpowered you would die from 2 shots and because there was no real way to see levels above enemies heads it was hard to gauge when the skull and crossbones meant \"difficult but doable\" vs. \"literally impossible\". There was rarely any middle ground between too easy and too overlevelled. It was always just one or the other and both were equally unfun. Oh man I remember one fight in one of those missions tracking down cyber psychos where it was a guy with blades on his arms and you're relegated to fighting him in this small back alley and the fight was literally just me running in a circle occasionally turning around to shoot them and parry or whatever for like 10 minutes. A lot of fights were like this. Just boring and clunky. It was especially frustrating because I went in hoping to do a melee-centric build, but even long after abandoning that build the combat still just fell short of anything fun or immersive. It didn't help that, at least for as long as I played, you didn't really get to hold onto a weapon for a long time - or at least there was very little reason to do that despite, again, that being a selling point from the beginning i.e customizing your weapons and getting to focus on your gun or building a character around a weapon. Every single fight I encountered had a new weapon that I would be dumb not to pick up, even after I started adding mods to them because the stat differences were so high, and it just contributed to this overall feeling combined with all the other aspects where none of my choices mattered. You want to specialize in this gun? Well have fun doing that while you constantly pass by all these guns that are 4x better than it. It never felt like there were different but equally rewarding ways to play. Hell even Skyrim did that better. It always felt like the game was telling me \"No, use this instead. Do this instead. Wear this\" It used the \"you can be anyone\" phrase fucking EVERYWHERE in it's promotions and even in the game itself, but just telling the player that isn't the same thing as the player actually feeling that way, y'know?\n\nThe way the devs quietly pivoted from calling an RPG to just calling it an action game also I think speaks to how disappointing it was. Again, I didn't \"buy into the hype\". I wasn't just sitting around telling myself that oh it's going to have this and this and that. I watched a handful of videos, of the devs themselves explaining and at times even showing something that didn't end up being in the game. These ideas didn't come from nowhere. Again, I don't care about bugs as much as the core game. The bugs totally obliterated any real discourse about the game because it was all people would talk about, but for me, underneath the bugs was what was more important, and you seem to agree but for different reasons. I feel the game we got underneath the bugs didn't match most of what we were explicitly told and it just led to a very boring, disappointing, tiring experience as I slowly realized, mission after mission, how much they lied about. \n\nIf they marketed it from the beginning as the game that we ended up getting, then I wouldnt be here arguing with you.", "If you don't think calling someone a liar and a scammer insulting, you got bigger problems. \n\nI paid 50$ for BFV. I never saw the anticheat do anything. To thousands of Asian players who protested, nothing was done about it. So even if you claim it did, because it didn't do anything, there was no anticheat in my region. That is a scam. \n\nBut according to you I'm the liar and scammer?\n\nI never sold anything. I didn't lie. All because EA/DICE claim it is there, doesn't mean it works. And if it doesn't work, then what's the difference between having anticheat that doesn't work and not having anticheat? Semantics?\n\nThat makes you an idiot.", "That exactly my problem with this BF series. I watch some streamer play the game and at the end he said he like it and even tho it buggy still better than bf4, bf5 at launch and chat agree. I'm sitting there just like dude, so you know they have reputation of releasing unfinished game but still supporting it from day 1 that exactly why this thing keep happening.", "To be fair, everyone should know at this point that the official battlefield launch is really just the alpha/beta test for the game.", "Yeah. Incredibly disappointing. BF1 had similar launch problems, and I told myself I wouldn't pre-order V. My friend (who has been battlefielding with me for almost 20 years) used every ounce of peer pressure to get me to pre-order. So I did. \n\nTerrible decision. Game was a mess at beta, mess at launch, and there was basically a day 1 sale because there were so few adoptions. Then they promised all pre-orders special bonuses (never came), and just as they were making the game good, all development stopped.\n\nSo then I told myself I want going to buy this game unless the beta was really good. And as we all know, it's even worse than V's beta. So I knew this was going to be shit.\n\nI'll pick it up if the sale is good enough. Otherwise, this might be goodbye to my favorite FPS franchise.", "I think it might be hard to top BF1. Who at EA thought it was a good idea to remove weapon customization?", "The Early Access model is a disease that only those who grew up through the 90s and early 00s realise is terrible.", "DICE has a good history with majorly fixing their shit. EA has a history of making them (devs) do shit they don’t approve of. I’m gunna wait till this hoe fixed, cause if they fixed bf4. They can fix this. But DICE gotta have time to fix the mishandling of launch as always.", "Why hire game testers for money when you can charge €60 per tester instead?", "I personally love the gameplay. First playthrough was 120 hours for a 100% completion game, this one will probably be around 70. I personally have few bugs or issues with the game. Again though, that being said, I devote way too much money to my gaming rig. An RTX 3080 should not be minimum spec to run a game without bugs - or if for some it has to be the minimum - they should have marketed it that way.", "The golden rule, DICE is a great company, but EA publishes them. I’m sure you can see the problem. DICE has always come through with fixes for the community.", "Think its the best game of the decade. My favorite since New Vegas. ;)", "Don't bother, there are people that will hate the game until they die without ever having even played it. It's the internet.", "That's sweet and all but far too trusting. You can get reviews that don't spoil things.\n\nTrusting Bethesda to do the right thing isn't a great idea. At least getting a brief from a review will tell you if you should give them your money now or potentially later.", "Its evolving... just backwards", "I turned off cross platform play on my xbox and there have been 0 bugs since", "so.....current events?", "Neymar in Battlefield was unexpected.", "He’s right it would freeze game systems and PCs, It was completely unplayable for me for 4 months due to crashes and lockups. Had the magic bullet bug like in 2042 and a bunch of other major issues. After Dice LA came in they basically fixed everything causing all the lock ups and system crashes and then some.", "And as we all know, BF4 was never better than it’s release and it just faded to obscurity…", "That’s cool. My backlog is HUGE", "All halo needs is some more Big team battle maps, getting tired of playing the same 3-4 over and over", "in shambles", "Can't you get it on Xbox Gamepass for a dollar?", "Ziba tower", "I did the same thing, more friends are playing it, we all got the battle pass and it's a way better experience than BF. The damn wasp and banshee fly 100x smoother.", "They don’t even have quads or the tuk-tuk they showed in the trailer.", "Yeah, this one feels pretty phoned in and incomplete. For example there are literally two sidearms in the game, and I guarantee that's so they can sell more unlocks later as DLC.", "I thought it was because of last Gen systems (Xbox 360/PS3)", "Shit game", "No, it is not true. We would have been happy, if they would deliver what they have PROMISED to us. It's not like we imagined things that they didn't make and now we're mad, they literally LIED to all of us and delivered a game which is still missing half of it's promised content. Besides that i loved cyberpunk, but the point is, CDPR lied to us and they deserve all the hate.", "the world does not deserve the immaculate humor of dunkey", "Saaaaame. And half of them are even GOOD games, too!", "I'm not sure DICE, or any company under the EA logo these days has a QA department.", "8 year old\nMotherboard and CPU, etc, with a Vega 64 upgrade.", "I thought everyone knew by now. Stop buying EA games.", "IDK, BF4 lost a lot of the mechanics that made BF3 interesting from a skill ceiling perspective. Movement got blander, vehicles got worse, and the maps just weren't very good, IMO. \n\nThere are BF3 maps that are straight-up iconic. No such thing from BF4 except maybe the big building that falls, but that's a gimmick.", "Yeah. I beat The Witcher III and Forza Horizon 4 this year so…", "I've been saying I can't wait to play this in 5 to 6 months. Compared to this bf5 is absolutely amazing. The lmg is actually useful, vehicles have animations for getting into them, you can hear the person behind you get shot instead one 1 enemy wiping out a position because of no audio cues....", ">The scraping as the body drags itself along the ground\n\nIs a great analogy for the current state of the Battlefield franchise, lol.", "r/mypeopleneedme", "> This is 10x worse than that from a bug perspective\n\nYou literally could not play the game without an app.", "Got the game for Christmas and couldn’t play for the first two weeks or so, never again", "I'm pretty sure when I downvoted that comment (several hours had already passed) it was about -100k. Now it's -667k... wow", "Stupid mofos overhype a game from promotional materials then whine about it once they receive a broken mess. Then rinse and repeat the pattern.", "Not to defend the state of the game, but who gives a shit about the campaigns, they were ass. the gameplay was basically just \"walk in lines and shoot bots, occasionally have on rails section\". Which would be okay if the story wasn't a forgettable slog.", ">One problem is that brokenness is hard to objectively rate,\n\nSee, now I don't think this is true...\n\nI think that the issue lies with that whole \"Well, technically...\" argument, and I always say that if a company starts with the line \"Well, technically\" - they are morally* wrong, despite them being legally right.\n\nBut I think we need to change where this line gets drawn. Companies shouldn't be able to say \"Has feature A\", followed by an asterix, which essentially means they're fucking LYING.\n\nGenuine Leather, a company that doesn't sell actual leather, shouldn't be able to put their name on things that look like leather.\n\nAnd when a company says \"Clinically proven\", people shouldn't already need to know that there is a HUGE difference between that and \"Scientifically proven\", of which only the latter actually means anything because clinically proven means they have \"proven\" it in their own ways, in their own clinics.\n\nJust the same as how natural flavourings shouldn't cost more than artificial ones even though they're literally the same chemical at the end of it all.\n\nI think what actually should happen (if the Advertising Standards Agencies of the world weren't utterly corrupt as fuck, just like the government) is that these government agencies do fucking straw polls, asking people questions about a product, from random spots all over the country, reading to them what it says it does and then actually showing them what it does. If over 50% of them say it's kinda sketchy, then that's it - it's false advertising and should be illegal. Done.\n\nNo Man's Sky, despite having YEARS of trailers, heavy marketing and nothing but lies from its director, was shown to not be false advertising because none of the stuff was \"on the box\", or whatever their shitty excuse was. Hell, it was even touted as being multiplayer until LAUNCH DAY when it was shown to have stickers over the part on the gamebox that said \"Multiplayer\". How that isn't corrupt is beyond me, and this shouldn't be how it is.", "Hell Let Loose is good.", "You haven't? You've never parked your car somewhere just slightly touching the road and seen those stupid npc-cars line up because they ain't able to make the tiniest steering motion?\n\nI remember finding out one hour in and be really disappointed.", "It's a live service game. They're developing it live, as you're playing.", "Ah, but consider the free fridge magnet and in game skin", "ITT: Bunch of gamers saying they are done with EA and they'll never preorder something again\n\nUntil next EA release I guess.", "This is the part I always mention and I'm glad to see it with upvotes for a change.\n\nYoung people simply do not know any better because they haven't experienced better yet. Microtransactions, shallow, broken, unoptimsed, half-baked games are the fucking NORM for them, and we're the ones out of touch.\n\nThey have no idea of how much further gameplay design should be at this point. It should've stayed consistent with graphics, and instead it's gone fucking backwards in some ways. Some things are better, sure, but a LOT more isn't.\n\nYou only have to compare features of games from around 2000 to now to see how much gamers are missing out on. Unreal Tournament 2004 is just one example of a game with a staggering amount of content, all playable with full bot support, most from day one. Compare that with today's shooters and it's a fucking joke.", "Greenish Meatstick of Death?", "Ah I see. Yeah buddy I'm a hater right? You jump that gun fella.\n\nPositivity can be toxic when honest criticism is stifled by people trying to shove an image of positivity down your throat when the reality is otherwise.\n\nWhen people are absolutely apologetic for fuckups and trying to sweep it under the carpet.\n\nIf we're going to talk in general terms here then it's essentially invalidating emotion. \n\nBut go on. Keep being a smart ass.", "God the dogma on r/pokemon around SwSh was nuts. And it's really annoying when it's actionable criticisms that they try to snuff out so nothing ever gets improved or fixed", "\"we had this feature in the game so it wasn't a lie, but the game is too shit and unfinished for it to work so we took it out.\"\n\nI mean seriously. Sure it's a \"good call\" but so is taking the brakes out of a car if you find out they make the gas tank explode. The car is still a piece of shit.", "I freaking LOVED BF 2142.\n\nToo bad they never fixed the engineer turrets", "pass me the copium u been smoking man", "I was already getting cyberpunk vibes after that and then I saw the beta. It just solidified all my suspicions. I really wanted it to be the FPS of the year. Halo took that by a landslide.", "Would you like to buy the color white for $20? \n\nMr.Smithers.jpg \n\n\"Excellenttttttt\"", "Too trusting? Did you read what I said?\n\nI said I want to form my own opinion. Being told if it's worth it, no matter how little they talk about the story for mechanics will still influence my view, however little. \n\nI don't trust them to do anything. I just know I want my take to be my own, whether I hate it or love it.", "I really hope they abandon 2042, break off portal as a separate game and expand on it, and include 2142 as well.", "Oh that. They fixed that a while ago.", "I‘m so angry rn", "Nintendo is the exception", "So its not an 8 year old PC. The graphics card is about 70% of the actual workload when it comes to games, so saying its an \"8 year old PC with a Vega 64 upgrade\" is like saying your car is a Honda civic with the engine from a Ferrari.", "If your on a PC controllers don’t work", "Go try to bash on the new battlefield over at r/battlefield. Those toxic morons will hate on anything but still downvote anyone else that voices the same opinion. REEEEEEEEEE!", "But that’s a matter of opinion…I can see that loads of people hate it and are not enjoying it due to various issues but I’m playing and having fun. I didn’t preorder, I’m just playing battlefield and enjoying the war!!", "Not a lawyer but I would assume anyone who lies about their age to play a game and/or accept terms would be ineligible to be part of a lawsuit.", "Laughs in WoW Shadowlands", "Someone enjoying positive aspects of the game, doesn't mean they're disagreeing with you about the negative aspects.\n\nYou can't go anywhere on the internet, besides /r/LowSodiumCyberpunk where someone doesn't come in to disagree and call the game shit.\n\nEnjoying Cyberpunk is only 'toxic' to someone who doesn't like it. And if they don't like it, then they aren't playing it.\n\nUnless you think the devs will see nice comments, and think they don't need to fix the game.", "Developers know that people will buy these games no matter how fucked up they are. Releasing games in this condition is becoming the new normal.", "> You need a Planetside 2 population to fill the map in 2042\n\nThat's my concern with the.. what is it 128 players? Like the moment the next game comes out and half the players quit it's going to be impossible to play such big maps.", "So, in other words, every Battlefield game ever released? Yeah, these happen with every release and get cleaned up over time.\nAlso, I have never had the exhilaration in any other game as rushing to an objective on a quad while an MRAP driving behind trying to blast me with a .50 cal, and having to zig zag my way avoiding death.", "I think your game is broken.", "The basic premise is that there are still human soldiers in 2077? Weird.", "Same. I didn't pre-order mainly because I have other shit to play right now. I might not get that week 1 nostalgia kick but I'd rather have a good game.", "I watch this and all I can think is \"You know, if Halo: Infinite's biggest problems are:\n\n-Limited playlists\n\n-Slow battle pass progression\n\n-Heavy handed monetization regarding customization options \n\nAll of which the studio has publicly acknowledge and said they're working on fixing, then I think the game is in a pretty good place\"", "The good news is they've publicly acknowledged several of these. And of the ones they haven't, like playlists, we have datamines and leaks to show that several more are coming probably soon including Fiesta, FFA, and a few others", "Battlefield games tend to be cpu bottlenecked and this one is not an exception. So in this case referencing the cpu as the main part of the pc is probably correct.", "Ya BF4 is the the best IMO. Never got the grief at launch cause I was late to the party. Hopefully this goes the same way", "I started the series on BC2, and into BF3 and then 4, and what a progression that was. I loved 1, and there was a lot I liked about V too. I look at the launch of 4, and how broken the game was, but again I still played it, and to date is my most played battlefield game. \n\nI see why people are miffed, but I’m just not feeling that myself. If you enjoy it, you enjoy it!", "fire", "After you do the main mission (which isn't very long), there's not much else you can do free roaming.", "this game sucks", "Oh that is nice to hear tough", "You mean tetris clone with missing L piece for $300.", "I was getting [Corridor Digital vibes](https://youtu.be/8Q2P4LjuVA8?t=35) from that scene", "> I think you're putting a lot of words in my mouth and also assuming I'm the one downvoting you\n\nWell, downvotes the moment I post followed by upvotes later on usually mean the person you're interacting with is doing it. But that's fine, I don't care, my point was that you're coming across as antagonistic too a degree also, Otherwise I directly quoted what you where stating. Bowling was an example of random, inconsequential activities that the lack off make people think it's a bad game.\n\n> I'm talking about things like random encounters in the world that give you quests that aren't just marked on your map\n\nRandom encounters occur all the time. Just because anything quest related has a marker isn't a negative.\n\n> interested in exploring it once I realized how little there is to actually do. Again, what's the point of it being open world you could still get immersed in the exact same city if it was a linear game.\n\nThis is why I keep referencing things like bowling. \"Things to do\" are the quests and the game itself. I mean, Mass effect didn't have \"things to do\" outside the core gameplay. Nor did Skyrim, or Metro, or other open world RPGs. I enjoyed exploring for the sake of seeing the city. (And honestly too use the ingame photomode to setup pictures)\n\n>The only times I couldn't do that were when the complete opposite was true when the enemies were so overpowered you would die from 2 shots and because there was no real way to see levels above enemies heads it was hard to gauge when the skull and crossbones meant \"difficult but doable\" vs. \"literally impossible\"\n\nIt literally tells you how difficult an area you are in is going to be, from \"No Threat\", to \"Moderate\", to \"Severe.\" This is every single open world RPG that has ever existed. You will outlevel some areas. Some areas you will either need to adjust your gameplan or come back later too. This is how open world RPGs work. Skyrim was like this. Witcher 3 was like this. I do wish they had a \"scale enemies to your level\" option, but sometimes it felt badass to down a bunch of snotty Scavs before they even know what happened. They eventually added one to Witcher 3 also, so we'll see.\n\n\n\n> Every single fight I encountered had a new weapon that I would be dumb not to pick up, even after I started adding mods to them because the stat differences were so high, and it just contributed to this overall feeling combined with all the other aspects where none of my choices mattered. You want to specialize in this gun? Well have fun doing that while you constantly pass by all these guns that are 4x better than it.\n\nThis is only a problem in like the first 30 minutes of gameplay. As soon as you start getting the iconic weapons there is no reason to use the random generic guns around the street, and they absolutely are designed to be built into. One of the iconic swords is designed to synergize with the slow time on dodge, so getting cyberware and skills to extend that is crucial. One of the Tech guns is a one shot pistol that synergizes with skills like \"The last bullet in the magazine does double damage\". My favorite shotgun is all about buffing your ability to stun and knockback, so getting those skills make it bonkers. 95% of the guns I picked up I did so with the intent of either selling or disassembling them for parts for my primary weapon. \n\n>Oh man I remember one fight in one of those missions tracking down cyber psychos where it was a guy with blades on his arms and you're relegated to fighting him in this small back alley and the fight was literally just me running in a circle occasionally turning around to shoot them and parry or whatever for like 10 minutes.\n\nWhy not parry? Get that satisfying counter attack. Why not disable his legs with a hack, circle around him, and choke him out? Why not hold your ground and just block with a melee weapon when they charge you, use your weapons special move to make space? Why not use a weapon with knockback and just keep him on his ass? Why not use flashbang grenades to stun him, double jump upgrade to parkour onto someones porch, and use a smart gun to curve bullets down too him, or a tech gun to shoot through the floor, or a regular gun that you can aim the ricochet off of? Just because that was the method you dealt with the encounter doesn't mean it's the only method..\n\n>It was especially frustrating because I went in hoping to do a melee-centric build, but even long after abandoning that build the combat still just fell short of anything fun or immersive.\n\nWhy'd you give up on melee? It's fun, and better, power wise, than Skyrims melee combat. Too an extent the game is designed around the player picking up either the blunt weapon (in strength) or bladed weapon (in reflexes) skills, as melee will fuck you up once they get close unless you're blocking. In my three playthroughs I always had a melee weapon bound my first weapon slot for exactly that, or for when I emptied a clip and still had enemies. Calling the combat clunky is crazy to me. I literally just did a mission where I slid under a garage door, popped a guy with a oneshot mega pistol (that I was able to set up due to a slow time), swapped to a tomahawk to down a pair charging me, switched to a SMG that specialized in penetrating walls to down a group coming through a nearby door. I mean, one of my favorite moments is when you're in a hotel and the police are charging your position. I used flashbangs, blindness hack with maximum spread, and a shotgun in the narrow hallways and it felt boss. Particularly when you get the time slows while dodging and aiming to line up perfect shots while bullets spray around you. Then there's just sprinting through areas and mowing dudes down with smart guns, or using the Ashura at all (the smart sniper rifle. Literally curves bullets around cover, and the thunk you get on hit is so satisfying) The combat is why I replayed the game twice, to try different builds.\n\n>It never felt like there were different but equally rewarding ways to play. \n\nEvery single build I've tried becomes OP at some point. Using hacking to take over the security systems, the contagion with the poison upgrades from the stealth tree to instantly kill an entire building without even leaving your car? Or sandvestine to essentially stop time and run through with a baseball bat without ever getting spotted? Or max out ricochet and blow dudes away around corners? I mean the games most boring way to play is literally stealth. You could just abuse the AI and murder everyone through doors with tech weapons I guess, that would make me think the game was boring.\n\n>It used the \"you can be anyone\"\n\nThat's dumb. I hadn't heard it at all but the entire point of the game is you're playing a cyberpunk genre protagonist. \n\n>The way the devs quietly pivoted from calling an RPG to just calling it an action game also I think speaks to how disappointing it was\n\nI never heard about any of that, what RPG elements do you think failed?\n\n>e bugs totally obliterated any real discourse about the game because it was all people would talk about, but for me, underneath the bugs was what was more important, and you seem to agree but for different reasons\n\nabsolutely, and I respect your position, it's subjective after all. But I think I made it clear how much I loved it. If they had more stuff they had planned or intended to implement, that would've been great, I was absolutely eager for more. But what there was was good, imo. And I mean, c'mon, [the](https://youtu.be/RNGfarcZcYI) soundtrack [is](https://youtu.be/VOXOdflScCY) so damn [good](https://youtu.be/CZ8yN5BiEIo)", "Is it the pandemic that has made game companies cut so many corners? Or have companies just decided to not give a fuck about the quality of their games? This seems mental for what I’m pretty sure is a billion dollar franchise.", "And if its terrible, riddled with bugs, didn't deliver on what they spoke on, then you've told them that it's acceptable to do that, helping to lead to a trend like what we see today. You shouldn't do that, doesn't matter if that's what you want.", "Non-virgin here. Can someone tell me what I’m looking at?", "Is the multi-player fully out? Or is it just like an early release beta? Like will progress carry over on Dec 8?", "I bought this game and boycotted Call of Duty this year since they keep putting out broken recycled shit and I got fucked anyway. Third party gaming is in shambles. I can only trust PlayStation Studios with a pre-order now.", "I'm so happy I didn't buy/pre-order this game.", "It was pretty bad during the early access week, but even then I didn't experience a single thing from this video and I had 50 hours of game play by the end. Since launch, the only official bug I've had is getting stuck in crouching position until I respawned.", "Nah, I'm good. You do you.", "EA/DICE fooled so many Redditors and Social Media users. The hype was real, and anyone who dared to speak out trying to calm people b/c of past shady practices was told to kick rocks. Well, I hope now no one gets hyped when these same game companies release another title. I hope everyone is much more cautious and measured.\n\nWhat am I saying? They'll brag about pre-ordering and \"it's my money. You can't tell me what to do with it!\" And we'll be destined to do this until the end of time.", "Oh, Reddit will definitely get fooled again. Get ready for the next hype training. Can you hear it? It's coming around the corner.", "It's in another rap song as well but I can't for the life of me remember what it is", "I just looked up they video and holy shit, could not believe that game came out for next gen consoles.", "I tried to play Cyberpunk just after finishing RDR2 and goddamn, its like we're regressing in video game technology and innovation.", "FWIW I've been playing since the beginning of early access and I've seen literally none of this shit.", "That's fine, stay delusional", "That re-balance was really so bad, and came at a time when things were starting to turn around and it seemed like they were really listening to their player base. After that I uninstalled and never looked back, serious slap in the face.", "Yup, the game definitely has some issues but it is 100% playable and very fun.", "So true. And don't forget blowing up the Commander Assets as Recon. That element was never seen again in every BF game since.", "This is the current stage of capitalism. Buy the rights to something and mine as much money out of it by riding it's reputation (games, sequels, live action version, toys, shows, etc, etc). This usually burns the reputation in the process and ruins something that was once beautiful. It is really a sad sate of affairs.", "Don't you know? The community is just \"toxic\". \"I'm having fun, they're just spoiled children.\"", "When will these companies learn to stop letting marketing do whatever the fuck they want? Reality has to meet the expectations set by the trailers. Otherwise, it's like squeezing a lemon on an open wound when your game is completely broken on launch", "Just with the fact that the lifepaths were scrapped I think it's not a good game, more so far from what it was advertised", "What are you looking for in the things to do in free roaming?\n\nThere are quests and random encounters all over the place. Did you want to [go to a concert?](https://youtu.be/QFlmV95BNXc) ride a [roller coaster?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OVBBpt-628)", "Throws monkey paw into trash", "I'm pretty sure the Eu player base is higher than it ever was but I have no source on that", "Yep, my guess is able to pick it up for $20 no later than March.", "$1bil in 3 days\n\n$17779272460315643199 to Octillionth power over the last 8 years in shark cards. \n\nMost of the older Gamers already know why GTA 6 hasn't come out yet but I still think it's funny for the younger ones that don't realize there's no reason for them to make 6 when they're still making billions off fucking year off of Shark cards.\n\nThough *hopefully* that's slowed down a bit. \n\nI know the GTA Trilogy fiasco that's been going on the past week or two has caused a lot of drama but I worry that it's not enough to actually teach RockStar any lessons. \n\nThey'll probably pull the same shit again in the next couple of years. \n\nI really do feel like gaming just isn't made for people like me anymore sometimes.", "After bf4 and star wars battlefront i stopped buying ea/dice games. After Bc2/BF3 it only got worse.", "I still can't finish Halo CE multiplayer campaign because the game will just randomly return to main menu.", "https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFgq4ejkqOD5qIKvIQ", ">i feel like you haven’t played the other recent battlefield games\n\nWell you'd be wrong. I know its different than the other games, I just explained why i dont think that automatically makes it bad.", "I don't play Battlefield for the (pro) competitive scene... But I suppose DICE might have been looking to change that.", "That analogy would make sense if you bought battlefield 4 and then went to buy another battlefield 4.\n\nBut in reality you went and bought one game and then bought another game thats different, just like frozen yogurt is different than icecream.", "I am defending the game (a little) \n\nThis feels like the Cyberpunk 2077 launch on the internet. \n\nActually playing the game, I'm having tons of fun. I haven't run into any of those glitches (there was a pretty significant rubber banding issue for a while but they fixed that real quick). \n\nDon't understand what people are talking about with unbalanced guns, or bullet spread. About the only guns where I'm having spread issues are the DMRs, but the snipers and LMGS and ARs and SMGs and handguns are fine. I'm getting headshots from across the map easy. \n\nHovercraft floating is a feature, not a bug imo. Shit is both fun and easily easily counterable. \n\nI will admit there are some graphics problems I see too. \n\nWhat's happening is \n\nA) I think there are more bugs on the PC version\n\nB) People are trying to play this like BF4 when it's fundamentally different. In BF4 (and any BF game really) there are only one or two ways to solve a problem, while in 2042 there are actually much more options. Like I'm a transport helo main and trying to dodge AAMs, SAM grenades, Stingers, M5 recoiless, laser guided stuff, and wingsuits with C4 is much more challenging and more fun than it was in older games. \n\nC) The internet is much better at bitching about shit than complimenting it.", "I really need to see a video of that.", "Absolutely was. \nThe big thing is Cyberpunk was so hyped, and released in the middle of a wasteland where nothing major released around it. \nThen it had the problem of the previous game by the studio being incredible. \nAnd expectations it'd be like other open world, urban games (eg, GTA) despite being the first time they'd done one. \n\nCyberpunk was put on a pedestal before release, and when it fell it was obvious how broken it was because of everything else around it.", "Third person vehicles are so cheese.", "I contend it was Star Wars Battlefront 1.", "Is this a new game?", "You'll make me want to go through tw3 a THIRD time", "What? The Tuk Tuk is right next to the Russian spawn in Kaleidoscope, and there's another one by point A. I've killed people with them. \n\nQuads are present in both the tutorial level and every map.", "You poor thing lol", "The maps are the same, just where the soldiers and vehicles are on the maps make no sense.", "I had my PC muted when I started watching the video, I didn't realize it was Dunkey, but as I was watching crazy glitches I was hearing his voice in my head, and started to think the sound wasn't all the way off. So I turned it up, and never heard him. Then I moused over and saw his avatar.\n\nI guess the editing must be telling.", "The last clip is straight out of tenet lol.", "Halo was the pandemic, it was meant to be ready for day and date with the Series X/S, but moving from workplaces to work from home and other delays gave us 'Craig' and the delay. \n\n\nBF2042 seems more rushed, like EA wanted to compete while the 'everyone is at home' market was somewhat still around plus get it released before other games started coming out (sadly it just missed that window and instead come up against CoD and Halo)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nPlus the rumor it was a Battle Royale before shifting with no extra time supports that idea.", "I think that it won’t release until the money runs dry or someone controls the run away George Lucas syndrome cause when everything must be perfect and you have Feature creep by adding more and more. Tbh they should just polish a version sell it and then work on expanding it via free expansion since they have a ton of funds.", "Actually yes i had many time i needed to reload to fix broken quests, until i finally gave up after 1 quest just shit the bed preventing 100%.\n\nIf the game was actually good, those boogeyman you speak of would be drown out.\n\nAnd those builds you speak of are held back by shitty gunplay and absurdly weak ai/enemy design.", "No role modelz is the name of that song I think", "I have never hated a non-fictional character more than Ted Faro. I loathe him with a hatred that I did not know was within me. I wish that man every conceivable punishment for his ignorance, hubris, and the destruction he wrought.\n\nAnd I want a soothing, artificial voice, spouting corporate-coated babble as the torture is performed, just to rub salt in the wound.", "I’m waiting for the complete addition once the expansions are done. Cause battlefield I learned is one of those games you don’t buy at release you wait till either the game isn’t menaced by bugs/lag or they release a mega addition that includes dlc.", "Eh, disagree slightly. If I want a flight Sim, I'll play Flight Simulator. Bad Company 2, for me at least, a decent balance of skill vs fun. It's an FPS that thrived on hectic action gameplay. And helicopters that needed a little bit of practice but not an entire day's worth of practice to master fit that role.", "Just Ultimate for EA play access.", "Just Ultimate for EA play access.", "I just want to buy a full price game and not be nickel and dimed for cosmetics that should be unlocked through gameplay. The constant monetization these days is getting annoying.", "Text box doesn't work, you can spawn into a ranked match down 3v4 from the start, lobbies automatically disband at the end of a match, armour core system, insane cost of items in store and there's more.", "It was shit. Poor writing, characters, gameplay, world itself. All shallow stuff. Baffles me why some still think that underneath all the bugs was a \"good\" game.", "Rip uncle Phil", "The problem is that a lot of things won't get noticed until a large enough pool of players plays the game. Also, changing something almost always affects something else. There might be willigness to sort out an issue early on but its implementation has to be vetted to make sure others issues don't arise. I think people just have a fundamental misunderstanding of how complex developing just regular software is and games are the worst kinds of software for developers. What I would consider a 'simple' new software request at my company can literally take 6 to 8 months before completion and it takes a lot of planning ahead from atleast half a dozen people. I mean I am restoring a 3 year old version of something I did because someone didn't like a patch someone else made after I completed the project. It was meant to be temporary but people liked it more than the actual solution.", "That's what I'm saying; I didn't experience how bad BF4 was at launch, so I just assumed that the new one would be good. So my lesson is learned on this game.", "> chefs kiss\n\nChief's kiss", "The rubber banding is going to happen over the life of the game when there's either some weird server shenanigans going on or a burst of players that wasn't expected so I wouldn't put that on a list of bugs or issues at all really.\n\nFrom what it sounds like with regards to the guns is that you're not realizing that those guns shouldn't function like they do. SMG's shouldn't be laser beams from long range, assault rifles are ineffectually balanced against SMGs from range and tend to just be worse in general. LMGs might end up getting a Nerf first as they are kind of ridiculous at the moment with regards to their impact damage, accuracy, and damage over range. Pistols seem to be fine though which is a breath of fresh air.\n\nWhile it's great that you're getting headshots across the map, with some of those guns you shouldn't even be getting close to that, they shouldn't function like they do because the range should be nerfing the bullet damage to a degree by which shooting across the map should be seen as suppressive fire and not potentially lethal fire. If this isn't the case then some guns that shoot at a lower rate but don't have compensated per voltage damage will forever be statistically and objectively worse than LMGs and SMGs.\n\nI do think one of the problems that I agree with most people that have played battlefield for a while is that because of the dissolvement of any and all class specific loadouts, you tend to have a lot of people, if not all people, with solutions to vehicles of all kinds, which I don't believe should be the case.\n\nSure it could be fun and is fun on some maps to dip in and out of cover to break my sight of all kinds of anti-air options, this is extremely poorly balanced on certain maps where those options just don't exist but all of the players still have all of their anti-air options and you playing a vehicle-based game isn't any inherently stronger on those maps.\n\nThe game is still a ton of fun and very interesting, but for a while they've moved away from the separation of tasks and really homogenized all capabilities between any kind of foot soldier, with the exception of the extremely specific abilities of certain operators. A lot of us really fucking hate the direction that they've taken the game, seemingly into a direction where it's just a large scale call of duty. \n\nI do really enjoy most if not all of the vehicles but there's a large difference between how I felt about vehicles in battlefield 2 and 3 and where they are now, specifically in the realm of something like a tank being constantly assailed by an indeterminable amount of countermeasures that don't really allow you to have any counterplay as the tank unit, at least not as much as you used to.\n\nGame is still a shit ton of fun though.", "I think its the 128 players, you need to cut out other stuff so the game even runs. That's why the maps are pretty much empty and most things are not destructible.", "I disagree, launch was barren and Attrition really bogged down gameplay. The Tides of War seasons really went a long way but in the end they couldn’t stay out of their own way whenever the game was doing well they had to cut the game short.\n\nThe marketing for 2042 all built a ton of hype but them going radio silent, the open beta & launch completely killed the hype. The game needed more work and in that time; I’d argue that you could do much worse than BFV.", "When did they change that? I haven't really played halo since 3 and it always did more dmg, shield or not.", "Leave it to dunky to make a shitty video with cherry picked bugs to make a game look worse than it is.", "Hahahahah! Well done", "the original?", "the original?", "Wait, even the matchmaking? Two search types and that's it? Mcc has Soo many options for filtering game types which unless I'm missing something seems unavailable on infinite?", "Early this year. It was so bad that they wiped it from nearly everyone's memory. But they can't get us all.", "Assassin’s Creed Unity also comes to mind, godawful performance and full of bugs. I think this is when TotalBiscuit’s message about not preordering really started gaining traction.\n\nI think he would be appalled at the state of the AAA games these days.", "Played since the Release of 1942… bf 2 was prob my favorite.. wish they would redo 1942, exact maps everything . \n2042 I can play one game with friends . Then gotta reboot the game my friends connect and I can’t to the server otherwise . \nAirboats need nerfed . Heli guns could use a little increase in damage. Rocket launcher could used buffed against tanks slightly . List goes on . It’s unrefined big time.", "Its the new normal. Just about every game these days is a total shit show on launch now.", "This is fucking gold", "Get it when they stop updating it and when on a huge sale.", "I enjoy this game a lot, it's very fun imo. Hope the live service will be good.", "And yet now Battlefield 4 is th gold standard of Battlefield games to which all other titles are compared. So I guess we just need to give them time to sort it.", "Three sidearms for the 2042 faction.", "Ive been playing games since the supernintendo. There is no new era, just what its always been.", "Yup, an actual game breaking bug that prevents me from finishing a mission and completing the campaign on legendary.", "My apologies, I forgot about the revolver.", "It's 17+ though and even then your parents could consent to allow you to play it without anyone lying about their age.", "At least cyberpunk was a bit of fun and made sense at times", "It's fun as fuck imo. Once you learn the maps and get into the groove, it's an excellent time. People aren't giving it a chance, but I understand why.", "There were SOOOOO many good titles coming out this year. Shame development had to happen during a fucking pandemic.", "a multiplayer games actual shooting and gameplay is broken. bug with cp2077, quicksave. load and fix. this game is fucked at its core.", "Don't get why this guy has a big of an audience as he does. He is right about this game sucking though sadly.", "What you get for pre-purchasing or buying at launch like a noob.", "BF1 had a good launch though I would say, but other than that mostly crap at launch. Bad Company games had decent launches aswell.", "Maps, weapons, vehicles, specialists, gadgets. For both 2042 and portal. And it's all gonna be free for everyone who owns the game. Super excited, having a blast with the game.", "Just so you know, it's still technically the beta of MP, not the full version. That's how the announced it anyways", "Is 2021 just the year of triple A studios shitting the bed? Cyberpunk '77, BF '42, GTA remake, Diablo 2 re-release. Wild times.", "Maybe OP tried for 200 hours to find anything that stands-out in the game that makes it a \"good\" game, and found none.\n\n\nI played diablo 3 for a lot of hours but compared to diablo 2, diablo 3 is mediocre. I am now playing D2R and it is still amazing.", "You know r/lowsodiumcyberpunk literally makes fun of people who play it expecting cyberpunk GTA when that's not what it is at all, so you saying that is pretty funny to me. Seems tropey, especially since the devs literally said it's not meant to be played like GTA", "Cyberpunk was absolutely NOT the first major game to be released broken", "How can you forget about the revolver, it slaps.", "It's been so long i forgot that the titans moved.", "Games are just profit machines now. If they market and buy big streamers and youtubers they don't even need to make a good game", "Is that supposed to be intentional? I was watching my roommates play and it looks pretty absurd even by BF standards.", "I got my refund as well; I had about 300 dollars of steam credit because I sold a CS:GO butterfly knife that I never use. (it was worth 80 dollars when I got it and sat in my inventory for around 7 years) So I pre-ordered Battlefield 2042 and Warhammer Total War 3. And purchased another 26 games during the steam sale with my credit; I consider getting these games and the two triple-A games for 'free' But 2042 is so broken and it's just not a game I'm going to play within the next few years now that I have seen what the product is; played around 40 minutes and yep I could tell this was a mess; time for a refund.", "Guess you don’t realize how expensive games are to make nowadays. This isn’t the early 2000’s where games cost maybe at worst a couple hundred grand to make. Games like halo infinite cost tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to make. Shit like battle passes are the only reason games don’t cost over $100 bucks each.", "Reddit recently rolled out a new feature which allows mods to unlock posts older than 6 months. Which means people can vote on them and comment again.", "The best one by far, so much fuckin fun.", "The funnier part of that was when he stopped shooting. And just observed the craziness through the scope.", "Yes, no and yes", "Nah, DICE has been in the game of dogshit launches for years now.", "So you this the Swiss and the Swedes are the same thing? Really showing your ignorance", "The person I was replying to was referencing Battlefield 3.", "Good times had by all.", "Good luck with that unless you just want a series S.", "This video made me motion sick. Fuck", "Expecting too much? It's not like people made things up that they wanted.\n\nCDPR promised a whole lof of features that they didnt deliver.\n\nPeople expected exactly as much as they were promised.", ">Actually yes i had many time i needed to reload to fix broken quests, until i finally gave up after 1 quest just shit the bed preventing 100%.\n\nSo in three playthroughs this never happened to me, nor my circle of friends who played it. Not a single broken quest. There was literally one that would break sometimes for some people that got patched out in the week 2 patch. Before you accuse me of saying \"Oh well I guess it didn't happen then!\", that's not my point, its not nearly as common as you're implying it is. What quest shit the bed for you? \n\n> If the game was actually good, those boogeyman you speak of would be drown out.\n\nNo it wouldn't. First, there's literally a sub for people who loved the game but got sick of people cluelessly memeing about it, so pretending like it's some universal consensus is nonsense. Second, the vast majority of people who I interact with who have very strong opinions about the game being bad haven't actually played it. It's a meme. I mean look at the literal title of the video, look at OP's comment. Do you think the 1k upvotes all came from people who played the game?\n\n>And those builds you speak of are held back by shitty gunplay and absurdly weak ai/enemy design.\n\nSo here's the question I always ask people, that I never get an answer for. By what metric is the gunplay weak? Game doesn't use bullet sponges outside the occasional boss. There's a variety of weapons that all serve different roles. The weapon impacts are responsive and dramatic. So how exactly is the gunplay weak? What open world game has this amazing AI that y'all are comparing it too?", "I haven't found a single gun in the game so far that slaps aside from maybe the pp-29", "I worked in game dev. That was better than a good guess, it is completely correct. Nice insight.", "I mean you have the 20 minute life path opening, then the montage, Sandra Dorset mission, mealstrom mission, then the heist, and he dies.\n\nMight have been a bit more than an hour but not much", "DICE had 3 years to make this game. EA could have delayed it to next year but they still want to release the game this year. Well looks like they have a commercial flop again. \n\nI am urging you who bought this game to get a refund. Tell EA that this product is unacceptable!", "The thing is. The actual game, even buggy, was great. You could tell that when the bugs got ironed out the core game would play well. \n \n2042 on the other hand, even if every bug got ironed out, the game looks and plays terribly. No amount of server side or hit reg improvements will make this game better.", "I am disappointed there was no Cyberpunk music mixed in. Come on now, mixed in some [Hyper](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G70S5fumHso&t=21s).", "Having a montage 20 minutes into the game that takes away 6 months worth of build up and character development was the worst game design decision they could have made.", "KEEP ON ROCKIN' IN THE FREE WORLD", "Clam down mate, take a joke. Jesus. Fucken nerd", "Furthermore, it's but like gamers don't have the information readily available.\n\nWhy they keep buying games day 1 is insane...\n\nStupid consumers is corporate Americas bread and butter.", "Mate, do you work for CD prokekt? You’re up and down this thread like you’re their PR.", "That's total bullshit", "I don't think the original game supported co-op campaign. It's almost as if increasing the complexity of design increases the chance for error and unintended effects.", "i find out hilarious that they think they can ask for 30+ bucks more to play earlier and a more bugged version, and find it sad that so many people haven't learned/don't care...", "That creeped me out", "he just slipped on a really effective banana peel", "At least Cybperunk's soundtrack is really fucking amazing, so there is one positive to that joke of a release", "... I'm responding too people who send me messages in this specific thread? Literally haven't posted a single message that wasn't responding to someone outside my first. Guess that means I'm up and down it? \n\nGuess I'm sorry about gushing about the game, I legitimately love it and it annoys the fuck out of me how people cluelessly meme about it when most never played it or gave it a chance. You never liked something you knew was good, but had a negative connotation because of something that's really irrelevant?", "They all need a timeout. Sit in the corner with the Dunce hat", "Bought it and am disappointed . The graphics are not that great. It glitches, and so much going on the screen can’t see the enemy. Battlefield 5 is the best", "Really? I mean sure I would've liked that fleshed out but what are you expecting, them to show that entire period before the story actually starts?", "I think 4(once it got over the awful launch) was about equal to 3. Both really good games in different ways.", "I’d rather them charge a bit more upfront honestly if they got rid of season passes.", "I disagree I found combat very fun but it was often ruined by broken AI. You have so much versatility that's not apparent at first but it gets really fun with more cybernetics and skills. Some of the meele builds or [or this shotgun build](https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk/comments/kfiycb/when_doom_players_play_cyberpunk/) is something I wouldn't even imagine you can play as. \n\nI still have hopes the game will be fully fixed and optimized, I enjoyed the game despite how colossally broken it was, but I am waiting for next gen patch before I replay the game.", "??\n\nYou miss out on meeting pretty much everyone for the first time, you miss out on your rise to fame in night city, you're robbed of hours of character development because they didn't have time so instead made a montage.", "In these times it's important to remember the wise words of the late, great John \"Totalbiscuit\" Bain:\n\n#\"STOP PREORDERING VIDEO GAMES, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!\"", "BF4? try all the way back to BF2\n\nDolphin Diving anyone? YES! because they never fixed that thing even till today.", "The free to play COD has been the main money maker since its release. If anything Microsoft is just following market trend.", "Oh okay. \"I really need to express my opinion about something but I don't care what other opinions are.\" I'm tracking. Just funny that you use the exact trope that gets mocked for its cluelessness.\n\nSo you've played it right?", "ooo where? I'm planning to get it soon.", "Ah man, I'm all outta cash!", "Rise to fame? That only occurs after the heist, and the entire point is it's irrelevant because V is just desperate to survive. You're still a nobody after that montage. You can't even get into the bar where the mercs hangout, going there to plan the hiest is literally your first time, and attention is made that you're finally getting any amount of recognition. The only characters you miss out on meeting are Vik, a vendor, and Jackies mom and girlfriend, who both get all their character development later on.", "Did you even watch this video? Wait till it's 5 bucks, hopefully it's fixed by then.", "TENET 2042", "Refunded", "It robbed the game of so much that it should have been gameplay.\n\nAnd yes, it's your rise to fame, that 6 months gets you in the door to meet Dex, gets you in the afterlife.\n\nIt's the start of your journey in night city, and its shown in a montage.", "You’re gonna be disappointed a lot if one of the best combat systems ever made is the minimum for “good.”", "More like butter field", "eh, that's normal with BF games, it's been like that since at least BF2, I'm use to it, and I usually get more fun out of it than frustration.\n\nBesides, not like i buy a whole lot of games now a days anyways, so a 20% off is kinda of a bonus.", "I mean yea, I agree, I would've liked to see it, mostly because I just wanted more of the game, but it isn't really that important relative to the main plot, right? Just seems like such a minor thing.\n\nAnd Jackie is who gets you in the door to meet Dex, who meets him through T-bug. Your rep isn't a factor.", "But you have to think that this is a AAA title that costs full price and it being so broken at launch is unacceptable. I understand ironing a bug here and there, but releasing a half baked alpha for $60 is now frequent. I believe this is a combination of two factors in the modern VG industry:\n\n\n\n1) ubiquitous high speed internet connections\n\nYou can easily release the skeleton of software and fix as time progresses and you have more real time data. This couldn't have been possible when the console releases had no way to update a broken game if it wasn't for a mass recall. With the ease of mass internet adoption, there's no risk in releasing an incomplete game. \n\n\n2) Brands overly relying on reputation / large fan base and mass adoption\n\nMega brands like EA are well known and no matter what incomplete product is released, a fraction of the non-dedicated players (think kids getting ps5 for Christmas) will buy the game no matter what because batrleifled is a recognized brand. They've gone beyond being a cool multi-player shooter like when 1942 and Vietnam came out. Everyone recognizes battlefield and they are too big to fail to move some early copies of the game, funding the remaining production and getting first to market.\n\n\n\nThere's many reasons why they should, but it still doesn't justify them displeasing the loyal fan base. I'll hold out on this one until it becomes more stable since I really want this to become a great game.", "Miss the days of BF3", "No joke... it just had its 'gold standard' pass added to the roadmap for next year.", "6 months of character development in night city a minor thing?\n\nIt's literally the start of the game.\n\nIt's you building a relationship with fixers and Jackie, before 1 mission then his death.", "DON'T SAVE HER, SHE DON'T WANNA BE SAVED\n\n\nDON'T SAVE HER, DICE WILL STILL MISBEHAVE", "Because streamers are open about when they get payed to play games, they will put in their title that its an ad. He might have done a sponsored stream the day the game was released but I've been watching his streams and he's streaming it because he wants to, he's not getting paid.", "I haven't checked up on it in years. What's the gold standard pass? Like they just added another rework \"to make it perfect\" for the next inevitable rework?", "You do realize 2042 is 21 years away right?", "Trailer cherry-picks epic moments, this video does the same for bugs. Both EA and Dunkey get lots of money from this. Y'all got fooled either way.\n\nI played the game a lot and had even more epic moments than in trailer. And I had hilarious bugs. Who cares either way? The outrage about new BF for internet points is so tiresome. In couple weeks and couple patches in everyone will start making threads how \"I'm the only one that actually likes the game?\" and everyone will agree. In two years this game will be a loved classic and any new game will be trashed.", "BF5 is not good today. It was indeed good 1-3 months in total before they again destroyed it in the next patch.\n\nGame-breaking bugs are still in today that were present from launch though so \"good\" is relative.", "Chief's kiss", "It isn’t. It’s a little more than halfway into it.", "[Cunninlynguists - Dying Nation](https://youtu.be/DHHLABZseFk) perhaps?", "Built my first PC for the release of BF2!", "For real", "I think the game is fun and the combat is varied and allows a decent amount of room for a ton of different builds. I also love the story. That said, the draw disantce is laughably bad with a ton of pop-in if you're moving in a car at all and the LOD/car sprites activate way too close and cars even disappear when you move your camera. GTA San Andreas had traffic that remained consistent for around a block radius and you could even chase down a car you wanted. Here, you turn a corner and a new set of cars spawn.\n\n&nbsp;\n\nFor reference, I played this at 4k medium/high with balanced DLSS with a 2080 Super and a Ryzen 7 2700 off of an SSD.", "Made me think of [this old bug](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EvergreenEmbarrassedKrill-small.gif) back in Battlefield 3.", "Dolphin diving was not a bug. It's just players abusing a mechanic. Same as spamming grenades on Karkand.\n\nThe memory leaks and 62% loading crash were game-breaking bugs that affected the game from launch but were fixed within a few weeks.", "Instead of whooshing you I just wanted to let you know he was both making a reference to j coles song and also making a joke about the glitching/clipping in games", "Theroetically 'good for release'.\n\nMake sure it has all functions, buttons, switches etc... all the things they've been adding to newer ships as they release. Along with final proportions and housings for all of the components and weapon racks and everything that is interactable.\n\nSo far they've just done the Gladius and Sabre I think.\n\nSo they've started down the long road of calling ships 'complete'\n\nEdit - Complete... for now...!! xD", ">\tThe combat was just awful.\n\nWell I kept saying that from first game trailer. I mean… It was all there. Studios first ever FOS and it showed…", "I didn't even realize it was a Dunkey video, that man is never quiet. Damn.", "I also do like WW1 and WW2 shooters but I dislike EA's take on it.", "This fuckers always selling unfinished games!", "I tried BF 2042 while it was free and was actually stunned by how buggy it felt and how B grade the animations are. It's supposed to be a AAA game with AAA resources devoted to it, and it felt like a little shop trying to make a shooter.\n\nI was really good at 1942 and 2142. At the time I was impressed by how smooth they felt. Doubt I'd feel the same today, but it couldn't have been worse than this. After playing 30 other games and playing Destiny 2 in the present, BF 2042 felt like a god damned joke. \n\nFix your engine and basic animations before trying to sell this as a competitive shooter in 2021.", "Well they had 3+ years to develope and most of the things they did is \"ctrl c ctrl v\" anyway. All those bugs are not new, they were in BF3 and BF4 etc.", "BF1 was a good release on a technical level - the issue there was limited maps", "They halfway reverted the changes after outcry, wasn't perfect, but still at least playable... Only to then try going back to the crappy version of the gunplay a second time.\n\nDecided at that point that I was done with the series and thus didn't even consider the new one... Or the one that will come after, because even if they nail it perfectly, who says they won't fuck it by messing it up later on like they did with V?", "This is why I'm still playing OverWatch", "Checked the roadmap. Looks like just another 76 weeks (a year and half) until the ship I pledged for in 2016 ~~leaves whitebox development~~ gets delayed again.", "Just don't buy it. It's not that hard. \n\nIt's the #1 selling game on Steam right now because the vast majority of you are fucking retards.", "So what happened with 2042? They had the primary team work on the trailers and then let the support have a go at finishing it for release?", "It's pretty much looks like desync issues.", "Yeah. I have noticed the same for music and movies. It is all hype, no content. For the quick money.", "I really like it, but a lot of the criticisms here aren't invalid neccesarily.", "i had a really great time with cyberpunk... the story, the art design, voice acting and the char building all were good. granted everything that involved cars was awful and the immersion was shit once npcs acted like braindead zombies. so yeah its not great but i still give it a solid 7/10.", "Oof! \n\nYeh, I can't say I'm a fan of the monetization strategy. It helps fuel all the \"Star Citizen = Scam\" theories for sure. :/", "Oh yeah. I was just pointing out that game studios have been easily spending well over 100mil prior to launch for years now. But I agree with everything you said.", "\"could not reproduce\" or my favorite \"not a bug. working as intended.\"", "Finally,\n\nThe first Strand Type FPS", "Watched Ludwig and MoistCritikal play it. They got sponsored and still trashed it, lol", "Not necessarily, they could also not release where they can't fulfill their vision. Many games are pc only.\n\nBut if they go multuplatform... Sadly Microsoft messed up by releasing the series S and promising every game for series x will also be on series S. So this upcoming gen, if devs release console games they will be heavily held back by the series s\n\nIt's either that or Microsoft will have to have lied about the series s/x library being the same", "Right at the start\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZNLpDzFVpE", "Made me watch 2 fuking ads for this shit?", "Does that work for a game that only has a multiplayer mode though? I feel like everyone will have moved on to other games.\nYou either play it now in its current state or you will never play it.", "I honestly think it might be a game physics issue. In BF3 and BF4 the LAVs were hydrophobic and all sorts of physics oddities would occur if you drove into a body of water too fast with them. Oddities such as being bounced of the water upon entry and either shot towards the skybox, or any random direction.", "Starting to believe that this BF was supposed to be a Battle Royal game and they changed direction a year or so ago only", "You're not remembering properly, a lot of people loved bf4 at release, the main complaints were about progression/kits and loot boxes (and maybe too similar to 3). There were 10 maps that introduced the transformation mechanic at launch and they didn't rework anything.", "Gg to all who pre-ordered", "Honestly, good. The entire discussion has been derailed for at least until the campaign releases, on both reddit and waypoint and if that means actual change in the long run then I have no problem with it.", "You are actually delusional if you think guns are fine and only dmrs have bloom.\n\nAnd cqn you please point out the \"fun\" parts of the game ??", "They did.", "Are those bugs really commons? Or does it happen every few hours or so ?\n\nI saw a streamer playing it was fine", "It's easy to get dazzled when you recieve $50.000 to play the game!\n\nhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/05/19/twitch-streamers-are-getting-paid-50000-an-hour-to-play-new-games-they-deserve-it/", "I'm haveing fun with it too. It's just a nice basic FPS shoot email yo game with genuine fun and silly antics.\n\nCan't see a lot of replayability In it though.", "is there really not atv in the game? it was such a big role in the trailer...", "I have to say that cinematically its awesome! \n\nGameplay wise it sucks, it is funny though nature finds a way.", "Ahhhhh dude fuck me that brings back memories.\n\nI just really REALLY want a remake of BF1942 and BF2. With ALL the mod support it deserves. \n\nMods really made BF1942 and 2. Forgotten Hope and project reality were absolute gems.", "You see it all the time with people expecting hyper-realism in their pseudo RPG game. GTA V, Fallout 76, and 2077 are a few off the top of my head where I saw people on Reddit thinking they were going to be able to Sims it up with a job, start a business, get married, have 2 kids, develop depression, leave the family and climb Everest, etc.", "I bought bf3 on day one and from what I can remember, it was fine, and I had a great time with the game. BF4 I bought for 5 bucks after it was patched up, and also had a good time with it. Hopefully, they will fix this mess.... If it's fixable.", "> Yeah. I have noticed the same for music and movies. It is all hype, no content. For the quick money.\n\nPropahandhi, Gojira, Jinjer and Chuck Ragan, my man.", "> Cyberpunk 2077 was supposed to begin new era of gaming. It did, just not how we thought it would. Be careful what you wish for.\n\nFactorio and Oxygen not included started the new era, it just keeps growing!", "Lmao, jesus christ man. Get a grip. Is this what the kids mean when they say copium?", "“Pretty sure hovercrafts will be able to climb verticals walls in 2042” my die hard BF fanboy buddy", "\"Only in Battlefield\"", "False Advertising", "\"Battlefield moments\"", "[really far headshot with no magnification and escape death last moment ](https://youtu.be/Pb0X3i_-_z0)too poor still on bf5 :( and ps4", "Mass Effect: Andromeda was in a pretty similar state at the release.", "I've not encountered many bugs, played almost 20 hours. Never had any hit register issues like him.\n\nThe few bugs i've had is just with load outs and the hurricane that comes through when sucked up its random if you die or not from it.\n\nOther than that, really fun game.", "That same with products, or medicine, they are made with the notion that insurance covers damages from lawsuits. It's true.", "2077 physic looks wild", "You'd think that these companies would learn from CDPR and Cyberpunk, but...well, here we are.", "Because you've missed the \"Remember: no preorders\" meme.", "At least NMS had its redemption arc...", "In contrast to the very vocal outrage; I've played close to 100 hours since day 1 of early access and had very few issues, I've certainly not had issues with hit reg on zips for or against me.\n\nThe only bugs I had that were actually problems were ;\n\n1. First night server issues (I'm used to this with BF)\n2. Losing zoom on scopes the first few days (seems to have been fixed)\n3. Not being able to be revived when so much as one hair is clipping through something (this is actually irritating, but not the end of the world)\n\nOther than that, it's been pretty smooth sailing for me and the people I play with. There are definitely people who are blowing things way out of proportion.\n\nAll that being said, this video is hilariously done!", "honestly, with EA and DICE's track record, I would pretty much assume that any remake or remaster of an older Battlefield title would just be a shameless cash-grab.", "Hello", "Grand Theft Auto was originally a racing game with cop cars, but during playtests, there was a bug that caused police cars to try to all ram the player's car as hard and aggressively as possible. This proved to be much more fun for players than plain old racing, and this got the devs thinking...", "Its almost like capitalism and buracracy aren't the best way to create quality products or content.", "Kinda wish they'd revisit the 2142 era.", "I am looking forward to getting a PS5 in 2025...", "Man I’m so glad I waited till the beta to decide if I was gonna preorder. I loved BF1 so much and when I played the beta I knew immediately I had to get it. With BF5 I wasn’t as hyped and I heard about the bad launch of BF5 and didn’t get it until it was free in ps+ years later. \n\nI thought this game was gonna be great. I was debating if I should preorder the ultimate edition so I could play the beta early. But I eventually decided not to. Thank god. Played the beta for a DAY and knew instantly that this wasn’t gonna give me the same experience of BF1. Didn’t preorder and didn’t buy. MONEY SAVED", "Your standards are so low if they gave you an STD you would thank them for the new experience", "Couldn’t disagree more. It was like a 32 vs 32 player game with no jets and almost no helicopters. Bad company 2 was not a battlefield game.", "Do we know that they can't climb building irl though?\n\nHas it been tested? I doubt it.", "They offered the first big patch to both paying customers and pirates. It was a big thing that helped their popularity.", "RL player, eh?", "I am yet to see the rocket take off in my own adventures", "This was a problem when I preordered civ 5 in 2010, and I heard it happened for the release of civ 4 in 2006. I have an inkling this has been and will be an eternal problem.", "Wow that bad huh", "I mean, if the beta was great and left nothing to be desired, and there was some exclusive bonus content tied to pre-ordering, I could understand it.\n\nIf the beta was not great, as most arent, and prompted thoughts of \"Oh, well surely they'll fix that on release...\", I wouldn't go betting my lunch money on it. Bethesda, EA, Rockstar, CDPR, they've all shown how willing they are to ship a barely functioning product.\n\nImagine buying an appliance and having it not work until the manufacturer shipped you new parts in the mail, or ordering food and having the cook running out to complete the dish while you eat. Only game devs seem to get away with this \"sell it now, make it work later\" mentality.", "That seems to be the case. People compare games to older titles too much. Then they wonder why we get remasters all the time. Why bother making anything new and get flack for it, if they can copy paste game with new assets? \n\nBF42 tries to make 128 players work, and they definitely have issues doing it. Maps are not really that amazing, since it's basically their first pass at 128 players maps. Netcode struggles to keep up still, but they might figure it out in couple patches. But at least they tried. \n\nHalo is just another Halo, CoD is just CoD. But apparently BF42 sucks cuz it doesn't have full scoreboard and I should play Halo Infinite cuz of that...", "Why are people up voting this moronic comment? Bf4 core game play was solid even at launch and had more content than this current shitshow.", "You can see how bad it is due to its IGN score of 7/10, apparently the lowest score IGN can give to a game.", "Also stocks and crypto. Everything is headed toward fake instant money", "Star Citizen is being developed by around 600 - 700 people now for many years, you would think there would be some proof of this by previous or current employees, or someone in upper management whistleblowing some documents. \nYet there has never been any proof of this or anyone saying anything even though it's constantly repeated in every thread, unless you have some kind of new source?", "Pretty much. You'll see a lot of people defending them by going 'it's Dice, they'll fix battlefield! They've done it for Battlefront 2 and Bf4, you'll see!'. But really, the guys who fixed BF4 have started a new studio with a big chunk of the staff leaving, the ones who fixed Battlefront 2 took an entire year to do so... and the ones who messed up BFV like the comment above described are the ones who developed this one.\n\nThe development team is entirely out of touch and worse, has an opinion that the players are idiots. They never take player feedback seriously and do things like the experiment in the comment above... only to repeat it again and see a huge chunk of the playerbase just leave. \n\nI wouldn't recommend a Battlefield game unless the development team goes through an enormous pruning. Like... flamethrower levels of pruning.", "I think it’s a play on the word copycat?", "yea, I think it's a legitimately good game. nuts huh?", "If you don't rock and stone, you ain't comin home!", "No Man's Sky is an interesting example. At first everyone considered it an outright scam where the developers had lied to generate hype to cheaply cash out on, but after patches it was largely forgiven and people were persuaded the developers had simply run out of time for genuinely planned features. An opinion poll could have ruled them either obviously guilty or innocent if data was taken a few months apart.\n\nYou're asking for consumer justice to be run by popular common sense about what's wrong or right because specific rules lead to \"well technically\" bullshit. But the advantage of technical bullshit is that it's consistent, unbiased, and predictable - you even get to be certain what's illegal before trying it and waiting for a reaction. Mob justice is unpopular in comparison because mobs can be a little bit fickle.", "Capture the flag was GOAT.", "bro u literally play genshin impact \n\n\n>Developers confirmed that Genshin Impact made about $2.1 billion on Google Play and the App Store. That figure excludes revenue from PC, PlayStation, and 3rd party Android storefronts. ... That would mean the PC and PlayStation releases brought in an extra $1.4 billion\n\nWhen you see Genshin Impact you would think it's made by someone who just downloaded Unity, you really think [this](https://imgur.com/a/oXWceD3) is worth 3 Billion?", "I've been having a blast with it, but I can get if people don't like the changes. The guy who said the maps are too open is kinda right.", "Minecraft generated a revenue of 3 billion trough it's lifespan, so by comparison SC total funding is a joke even", "me and my mate played the free weekend. I'd have been absolutely furious if i'd paid full price for that game. What a shambles", "Thats fine, but pretending anyone who didnt is wrong or lying is willful ignorance.", "Just gimme Elder Scrolls VI first.", "Weapon balance hasn't been a thing in Battlefield like ever. Remember bf3 where you were either playing as medic with the M16A3 mowing people down left, right and center or you were playing literally anything else and sucked dick.", "It's actual dogma shit. It's creepy.", "I understand what you're saying, it's cut content and I would've really enjoyed that story getting fleshed out. It makes some of the drama of his death feel unearned. I just found him a likeable character. \n\nBut really the plaza is meant to be the mission that starts the main plot of the game, and you can choose if you where close friends with jackie or just work acquaintances.", "And you, just like Trump ( I'm using this argument ironically but holy fucking shit it is so cringy you are using this in a discussion about a fucking video game LOL) are just blindingly hating something you do not have understanding of, have not tried playing it, use some bad faith arguments and misinformation to talk about the game you're not interested setting wise, that you also never tried playing, yet the funding keeps growing and you all keep hating year after year? \n\n\nHuh, it's almost like millions of people don't see it, are happy with where the game is going even thought it is taking a while and are willing to pay for that.", "I agree with this. BF4 was my favorite but BF3 was intense quality like never before, and is still higher quality than anything today. Dude, the sounds of just CRAWLING blows anything today out of the water.", "Such as? Also have you ever played Star Citizen?", "What was the experiment if I may ask?", "I hope they never change them lmao", "Fundamentally the physics in Battlefield have always been beyond shocking, since perhaps 3.\n\nIt doesn't know how to handle stuff when the server starts lagging out and tanks start crashing into walls, it's always been Janky and hell together with tape.\n\nNot surprised about any of this, these bugs have existed for fuckin years, what seems to happen is they fix it, but they fork the engine before the fixes, hence need to fix it again, then fucking break it next release, then need to fix it again.\n\nThey must have some amount of turnover.", "What gets me is they don't start spamming ask for revive while they are flying about.", "Past Battlefield titles had content under the bugs. 6-12 months (1-3 is cute) later you'd get to play the content the bugs were keeping you from enjoying.\n\nBattlefield 2042 has fewer weapons than the singular Back to Karkand DLC added to Battlefield 3. 2042 is a content-less barren wasteland. All the maps are shit, the few there are. There are hardly any weapons. The game's already stale after 2 weeks.", "I just realized.. there's a ATV quad jumping off the roof with C4 hitting the helicopter.\n\nWe don't have any quad bikes??", "It’s not as bad as it looks but it is very buggy and unfinished.\n\nBugs are one thing, I tend to look passed them. \n\nA large part of the “unfinished” comes from the lack of maps, lack of weapons and the fact they have chosen to include uniforms but only added about 3 uniforms per specialist. \n\nThis game is just the foundations for a future cash cow.", "I never said either of those things. I understand the game is janky. It's also really good, and jank can be fixed. But that's subjective.", "NS2000 with slugs prenerf, my god that was great.", "Compared to one of my all-time favourite games, Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis, this is extremely polished!", "Is Halo worth it for a jaded ex Titanfall 1 and 2 player?", "600-700 guys on Fiver they've been piecemealing the work out to.", "Occasional glitch? I'm hitting several every damn game.", "Apex too. Hell there server were being ddossed to death at one point.", "1 billion plus?!? Lol nah man check those figures before being the \"business guy\". At most 2 or 3 hundred mill.", "Go to the 2042 subreddit, the complaints are really not about the bugs. Battlefield fans expect and are familiar with bugs. We understand the worst will likely be patched in 6-12 months. It sucks, but that's Battlefield. DICE has been a POS like that for 20 years. \n\nThe primary complaints about this new title are all of the stripped out features and lack of content compared to past titles. We got like the Mobile-app version of Battlefield or some shit.", "Microsoft really hit hard this Q. Aoe4, forza 5, halo are all well received. That's 3 AAA games and they are all enjoyable without major server issues, bugs or just imbalanced stuff.", "He collected bugs from YouTube, this does not at all represent the state of the game. It's perfectly playable for 99.9% of the time", "I wanna put food on your family", "From past year:\n\n>Alpha 3.11 - High Impact was released on October 8, 2020, and brought with it new force reactions and high-powered weapons, as well as improvements to planetary art, expanded prison gameplay, and cargo decks. \n> \n>Alpha 3.11 introduced the first iteration of Force Reactions. Now, players and NPCs will react to gunshots, lean as ships bank into turns, and even get knocked down by big impacts. This was just the start for Force Reactions, with future updates including staggering, knockbacks, and reactions to exterior ship impact. \n> \n>Green Zones forcibly prevent the use of weapons near landing zones and many points-of-interest. For added freedom, Alpha 3.11 removed them from most space stations, meaning you're free to use your ship's weapons at will. But beware, there are repercussions for bad behavior… \n> \n>Alpha 3.12 - Assault On Stanton was released on December 17, 2020, and introduced refinery gameplay, new ships, updated planetary environments, new space cloud tech, a multi-purpose handheld tractor beam tool, AI and combat optimizations, and more. It premiered backend tech that enables dynamic events in Star Citizen’s ever-expanding universe. Quarterly patch releases now include new, unique missions and server-wide activities. From improving annual events like Invictus Launch Week to enabling patch-exclusive adventures and battles, dynamic events begin shaking the ‘verse up… \n> \n>Hold on tight, the ubiquitous Greycat Multi-Tool got an upgrade with the all-new Tractor Beam attachment. When equipped, you can move objects and cargo weighing up to 250 kg for significantly easier payload management. \n> \n>In zero-G, the Tractor Beam also acts as a grappling hook, allowing you to travel distances much quicker than EVA alone. \n> \n>Head into the depths of select R&R space stations to find a regular haunt of serious miners and traders alike: the all-new Refinery Decks. Forget wasting credits earned from a big mining expedition. You can now cut out the middleman, refining the ore yourself and gaining all the spoils of a job well done. \n> \n>Alpha 3.13 - Underground Infamy, was released on April 22nd, 2021, and introduced new underground environments, reputation systems, Ship-to-ship docking, and two new vehicles.To make the most of Alpha 3.13's more varied cave entrances, three new missions task players with eliminating targets underground. Whether you’re righteous or on the wrong side of the law, there are new adventures beneath the surface. \n> \n>Alpha 3.13 premiered ship docking with the RSI Constellation and its parasite craft, the Kruger Merlin. Players can launch from inside the three variants with an onboard Merlin Connie and return in one seamless journey. This is the first iteration, with more ships receiving support in coming patches. \n> \n>The first iteration of the Reputation Manager is available on the mobiGlas, giving players the ability to see their standing with the various organizations and mission-givers across Stanton. Better reputation gives better rewards for completed jobs and, in the future, will give access to organization-specific items and missions. Reputation is a key feature in Star Citizen going forward, with players needing to think about who their actions will positively or negatively impact. \n> \n>Alpha 3.14: Welcome to Orison was released on August 6, 2021, and introduced Crusader and its majestic city in the clouds, Orison. Once home to the UEE Navy’s shipyards, Crusader Industries transformed the unique latticework of floating platforms into arguably the most picturesque city in Stanton. \n> \n>Pilots can use the new capacitors to allocate power between their ship’s shields, thrusters, and weapons however they see fit. From finely balancing defense and offense mid-battle to maxing out performance for a swift getaway, this added versatility can make all the difference between success and defeat, or even life and death.Projectiles are more deadly than ever thanks to the all-new Missile Operator mode, which gives greater accuracy and control in combat. The projectiles themselves now use the same flight model as ships, making them behave more realistically and improving their effectiveness.\n\nDidn't even include latest massive 3.15 update or many more things below this overview but sure, only three features", "I am going to get eviscerated but I think it is one of the best game made in recent years. The cityscape alone is the most immersive and lived-in ever created. When people complain that NC was lifeless, that's when I know not to listen to them anymore. At this point, it is just bandwagon hate.", "Played it years ago, was awesome, sad my pc couldn't pass 30fps on battles", "You are joking right? Because the screenshot looks very good. If you think that looks like someone just downloaded Unity you think everything looks like shit.", "Mass refunds need to be done for this game. \n\nIt’s beta mode for all", "Are people really expecting that you can grab any npc off the street and they have a quest with a whole, fully fleshed out background story, or that every building in the game has an interior that has people in there working, living and fucking?", "Buy only indie, forget about corporate products.", "If at the next big Christopher Nolan movie I see five minutes of strange colors and then the seat fall through the floor I expect a fraud investigation and my money back at the very least.", "Yeah, it's just that people somehow fooled themselves into thinking that the Holy Projekt Red (Praise Geraldo) was somehow different.\n\nThe writings on the walls [were there](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AynvqY4cN8M), if you actually bothered to look.", "Most people are not at the level your are taking about, but you'd be surprised at how many people expected cyberpunk to be a life sim or have some sort of deep simulation going on.", "I think its optimistic to think that would come out in this decade in the first place. Maybe after Skyrim 20th anniversary edition.", "I'm not an fps player and this just makes me sad. People expecting the awesomeness of this trailer and receiving whatever they've been given... :(", "Rushed and unfinished you say. They worked on Cyberpunk for YEARS and that was the best they could piece together.", "Yeah that's what I was pointing out with my comment.\n\nI've seen people call the game 'buggy', but they either never played the game or they don't mistake that the terrible bloom was a design decision not a bug.\n\nI'm at like level 32 and the 'bugs' have been pretty minimal. The only big one I can think of (Which is also probably the most consistent) is that you can get locked into air vehicles, unable to jump out.\n\nI haven't seen 90% of the bugs posted in dunkys video though. Which again, is likely why he had to use clips vs filming his own.", "BF1 operations were legit. So fun, so much atmosphere. Attacking/defending felt orchestrated in an organic way, and I loved how music swelled when rounds were coming to a close and everything was popping off. \n\nBf1 was fantastic, I’ll die on that hill. BFV was a forgettable experience to me.", "“No classes no minimap shit maps no guns no progression no squad creation no game modes” isn’t a funny video", "The clipping problems are so massive, they'd probably have to rewrite the whole collision detection. Or maybe it's unfixable because EA still insist that every game uses the Frostbite engine.", "THANK YOU. We're not criticizing the abysmal systems and lack of content/features in Infinite because we hate Halo. We do it because we love Halo and hate to see it like this especially when the gameplay is so good.", "A rare miss from Dunkey.\n\nWatching this video made me actually quite impressed how closely my experience with the game aligns with the trailer.", "They call it a beta, but they also said all maps and modes are in it. Progress carries over.", "Yeah but I don't worship genshin impact like how star citizens worship chris roberts lmfao. What's your point?", "Tbf, I haven't experienced any of these bugs in my 15 hours so far.\n\nBreakthrough is pretty broken, though.", "Thing is, a launch is inevitable. Even if you pretend there is no launch day, there's still gonna be a first time you can play a game, there's still gonna be a 'first day'. \n\nWhat needs to stop is gamedevs lying to their costumers, or worse; being so rich that they use the lawsuits they're getting as PR.", "God I miss metro. The pure explosive chaos at the escalators is some of the best shootouts. I remember the bf3 glitch of getting on top of the ceiling from the side stairs coming from the tunnels. \n\nSo many memories. Wonder if bf3 still active. Would love to revisit it.", "Some people definitely expected more than was promised. Even stuff that CDPR had been saying wouldn't be in the game long before the game came out (vehicle customization was a big example).\n\nIt's probably just people that wanted it and didn't keep up closely with what was or wasn't announced, which is fine, but then claiming they've been lied to on that isn't. \n\nAnd it's pretty mind-boggling that some people went for this kind of stuff when there were indeed features that were announced and not delivered so you didn't really have to lie about it.", "The clusterfuck in the Titan corridors are half the reason why the game mode was so good", "8 years is not a generation. \n\ndumb ass people just keep buying this.\n\nand worse \n\npeople are still perplexed that EA released another shitty tittle, who could have seen that coming.", "They are the same they are just showing them actually populated which is hard in Conquest since there are so many capture points spread so far apart. Breakthrough is a lot better since combat is focused around 2 points. Moving forward they need to scale down map size.", "its the best vehicle in the game right now and its a legit strat to get e1 on hourglass without it you need to get into an elevator with 64 people...", "I haven't had this much fun in years.", "Maybe I'm extremely lucky. But having tons of fun and almost no bugs at all. At least none gamebreaking that couldn't be fixed with a redeploy.\n\nFirst timer into battlefield and I'm hyped for what's to come. Hopefully more weapon variety and maps", "Definitely has places to improve especially condensing maps but I am having enough fun with it im not pissed at the purchase, plus I have Halo to fall back on.", "One month delays are a telltale sign that the game is going to be shit. \n\nIt means developers \"whined\" enough for management to begrudgingly delay launch, but not for long enough to do anything meaningful", "To everyone saying \"what do you expect, BF4 launch was awful too\"\n\nBF4 launch was awful because of crashes and performance, the meat of the game was there from the start, that's just one piece of the puzzle with 2042's. There isn't a single part of the game that's polished, the design choices, even down to the UI, make it look like they said fuck it let's get 200 interns and call it a day.", "If it's your first time playing battlefield I'd recommend going back to BF4, and then maybe trying BF1 and BFV. I wasn't a huge fan of BF1 and BFV, but the graphics, atmosphere and general gameplay loop of those is miles ahead of 2042.", "No real argument, hasn't played Star Citizen. Just the usual", ">Because the screenshot looks very good\n\nIt does look good, but does it look 3 Billion good?", "You're not", "This really needs some Shitty Flute", "I mean, it's a fun game when it works.", "Yeah I got this with the \"10 free hours\" thing you get with gamepass. Didn't experience a lot of these obvious gamebreaking glitches, but it felt like it wasn't really ready for release.\n\nHowever I did feel like this could be an amazing battlefield once they fix it. I absolutely hated the two latest battlefields and it felt like this could be a return to form. I'll probably buy it for real in a couple of months when it is ready.", "2:45 me crying as a kid on the floor cause my mom didnt want to buy me the star wars lego.", "What. At least 2042 didn't CtD every other map, it's WAY more playable than bf4 launch was for months", "This is the same outrage manchild youtuber than purposly made Death Stranding look awful.\n\nThose are the people you gullible fools follow. Ya'll are hilariously pathetic.", "Wow, is videogamedunkey making serious videos? (Aside from the dunkview ones)", "> and you can choose if you where close friends with jackie or just work acquaintances.\n\nEh?\n\nHow does that work?\n\nThe game definitely sets him up as your \"best friend\", and his death feels hurried and sudden, as it happens on your second mission ever with him.\n\nGame is so half assed.", "We live in a grift economy, everything is focused on scamming people and get rich fast", "> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZNLpDzFVpE\n\nThis was one of the best gaming videos I've ever seen. Can you currently do this in that game?", "It’s the evolution of BF3’s worm soldier, but faster because of the lack of repatriation and more hovercrafts.", "Fool me once, shame on you. Teach a man to fool me and I will be fooled for the rest of my life.", "what the fuck are you talking about? you still have bugs if you have the best graphic card.", "I remember seeing the comments saying \"Its my money, I can pre-order if I want to\".\n\n I wonder how they're doing now...", "???\n\nYou can literally go onto Companies House and look this up. Bear in mind that when they say '600 - 700', they will probably mean all of Cloud Imperium Games. Which lines up with their annual cost in wages.\n\nYou can also go onto LinkedIn and find hundreds who have worked there. I was listening to an interview with a 3D artist the other day who mentioned he worked on Star Citizen. Then joked 'at this point everyone has worked on Star Citizen.'\n\nStar Citizens development is meant to be utter chaos, or was for quite a long time. That's why they have a huge amount of staff, tonnes of plans, and yet ship less than other smaller studios. The staff count however is real. Very real.", "Goes hard", "It’s 2021, can you pause in that game yet or they still haven’t figured out how to make gp5 items not give gold during a potential pause?", "With the Soviet Union they'll have been thinking, \"the countries we need to support are the ones where the majority of our players live, because that's a bigger driver of sales\".", "Has it been 4 years already...", "Reminded me of this classic scene from [Hot Rod](https://youtu.be/A8GnphPdchY) I couldn’t stop laughing.", "Funnier than most of his videos because he didn't talk.", "2042 looks silly but like, let's be real... The gaming community IS a bunch of spoiled children more often than not.", "Yeah it was the CoDification of the Battlefield series, except they had a 2-year release schedule instead of 1 year, but wait they also had the \"premium pass\" thing so you paid twice as much. Genius.\n\nBattlefield 3 never got rush right like BC2 did, and none of BF4's maps lived up to BF3's best.", "I’ve been playing bf2042, deep rock, total war and halo in my rotation. I’m honestly having fun with BF.", "People beat the absolute shit out of cyberpunk 2077, I wonder what the backlash for this will be. It still looks like pre alpha game play, certainly not good enough to pre render it and pass it off as live.", "If you want to back this up you should probably point out what the actual gameplay mechanics were which needed such significant reworking.\n\nI played the beta of BF4 as well as launch day, and there haven't been significant changes apart from stability. And in terms of stability, while there were major issues there were plenty of people who were able to play a fun game on release - I had a few crashes but not loads.", "BF4 launched 8 years ago?!", "You just reminded me... I need to get my refund.", "Because he puts #ad in the title when he gets payed to play. I think it's more he's bored of most games so forces himself to try new shooters when they come out. New releases also bring in more viewers.", "Gamers have shown the video game industry that it will pay out the ass for anything as long as it's part of an established casual gaming franchise, so why would they not do this? Why would they not half-ass some hot garbage and save time and money that could have been wasted on development, but now can rest safely in their pockets?\n\nFIFA, Madden, Call of Duty, Battlefield - they could just rub some dog shit on a blank disc and not lose a dollar. Sure, people would complain, but then they would fall straight to their knees again the next year to repeat the cycle.\n\nWe have made our own bed and deserve whatever abuse we put up with from the industry at this point. It fucking sucks when you're more picky about your games and are actually willing to boycott shit to improve it, because it's meaningless in the face of all the people mindlessly tossing their money at these companies.\n\nBoycott this bullshit. Stop paying for garbage and stop accepting unfinished products hitting the market. Speak with your wallet, people.\n\nFuck.", "They aren't using the money to just make one scenery but a whole game you know?", "Guys. Although it can be annoying, we need to stop bringing up the glitching.. DICE will fix them thinking they’re doing something amazing & look for praise when its not the core issue with the game . They need to fix the fact that it isn’t battlefield first THEN fix the glitches.", "In BC2 if the game lasted for a while you ended up with no buildings left which made it horrible for the defenders. BF3 introduced a larger proportion of indestructible cover for that reason. The destruction in BF3 as I recall was actually more advanced than in BC2, where it was really obvious that buildings just had discrete patches of destructible wall, and once a certain number of them where gone the building would fall down. To the point where it was easy to learn where to aim your grenades/rockets so that you would destroy 4 pieces (at the corner between 4) rather than 1 or 2 (in the middle of one).", ">How does that work?\n\nIf you send his body to his mother, instead of to vik, she calls you to invite you to his funeral. Your responses ranges from \"Of course I'll be there\" to \"We weren't that close, we just worked together\" This spectrum is maintained through the quest itself. Seems like they wanted you too make of the relationship what you wanted.\n\nIf vik gets it, Arasaka takes it from him and uses soulkiller, and you meet his engram in mikoshi, but he's not self aware", "I got shot dead, fell off the tallest building in the game and then got revived by someone on the ground 💀", "This time the trailers went all in on the YOLO style gameplay at the same time though.\n\nThey can't decide if they want to be a proper military shooter or just a crazy shit happens sandbox. This leads to the proper mess the (modern setting) series has been since 3.\n\nThey should be taking out the crap like firing off rockets while parachuting and jet eject/snipe/mid air reentry stuff, not putting it into the game as a 'feature'.\n\nThe modern setting games peaked with 2/2142.", "Have you played at all? Most major glitches happen maybe once every 10 or so matches (games are roughly 30min long). When your game glitches out you can just quit to the lobby and start a new match right away.", "I can only dream of having enough time to put 200 hours into a game I enjoy, let alone a mediocre one.", "Fables coming first and thats still at least a year out so dont go holding your breath", "My guess there is just yet another rushed release. Combine the covid lockdown and the fact that it's caused these companies to go extended periods of time without putting anything out, with the fact that the \"release now, patch later\" mentality has been growing for years- this was bound to happen.\n\nYou would think it'd hurt their bottom line, but then you have Bioware, who has not only screwed up their last two games, but then unceremoniously dropped support for them after promising to fix them. Yet they're still being fully supported by EA.", "Bugs aside, the fact that they took a huge step back gameplay wise from battlefield v is enough for this game to not do well.", "блять сука во первых трейлер хуйня потому что нету стива из майнкрафта перекрашенного в негра-это расизм, вторая причина почему разрабы долбоёбы геймплей не похож на геймплей валоранта и сапёра поэтому хуйня переделывайте", "This literally happened to me in 2042 yesterday. I was gunner in a LAT on kaleidoscope went from B toward D, hit the water and I went flying out of the car to the spawn at 10,000 mph", "He’s just doing a mini crowbcat", "Lmao I genuinely don’t understand people like you? Are you that sensitive to comments or posts bashing a game ? Just sub to one of those shit low sodium subs that constantly talk about how good the devs are or how their game is absolutely flawless.", "I think it could be two things: \n\n1.\tMVP (minimal viable product) was met, and most core/feature devs got pulled off the project.\n2.\tMVP was not met but release was overridden by a market/risk decision. Core/feature devs are still on the project.\n\nHopefully it’s the latter, because the game is not close to feature parity with the previous few BF releases on day 1.", "Game is buggy as fuck, yet fun as fuck\n\n\nFuck", "BFV is a lot of fun. By far the best gunplay and movement of any Battlefield game. It's got a bad reputation since it was so badly handled in the first year or so of development, but it plays great now.", "30 hours playtime so far. Only bugs I’ve seen are a common bug where you can’t revive people who died next to a wall or obstacle and every now and then the game spawning allies that look like enemies so you kinda shoot at each other for a while before you figure it out. A couple crashes here and there but my system crashes on pretty much every game given enough time.\n\nI’m still enjoying it thoroughly and I think it’s kind of hilarious that it’s being compared to cyberpunk.\n\nY’all have fun memeing and I’ll have fun playing :)", "I really wanted BF2042 to be as clean/polished as BFV is but just in a 2042 setting", "Oh boy. I enjoyed re-reading all the responses, beautiful", "I want to buy this comedy game. Looks like a huge joke. Rolling around for ages in the video looked like a swell time.", "It's basically that they repeated the poorly-received changes all over again (namely that they lowered the damage of most guns across the board to lower the \"time to kill\" in a bid to make the game more friendly to newbies, in that you don't die as fast - but it just screwed up the balance and made whole classes of weapons redundant).\n\nSupposedly they did it just before Christmas in both instances because Battlefield typically gets a big influx of new players who got the games as gifts during the holiday, but I can't say I play enough of the other Battlefield games to say that's true, or if that was just salty projection by veteran players.", "Daaaaaang, game studios are getting really good at… short cinematic previews.", "They got rid of the bugs but the game still isn't what most people thought it would be. Glad you had fun during your playtime but I couldn't get to like it...", "my child like this game", "They can just turn it off for competitive.......\n\n\nJust a click of a button.....", "It's dumb that you got downvoted for just expressing an opinion, but even if you're enjoying 2042 you have to understand that it's just not in an acceptable state to be released as a triple A game that retails for $60. It's not an unplayable disaster but it IS an example of a company rushing to hit deadlines (holiday sales) and releasing a game that wasn't ready to be released.", "This pop their shields then melee them.", "Yeah they’ve been getting a lot of backlash about only having 2 playlists. Seeing how they announced they’ll switch the battle pass progression around after user feedback, I imagine that will change at some point.", "Wtf are you on about, core was the same.", "Haven't played Battlefield since they closed down heroes and 2142 so feel like I dodged a bullet here", "That's not how it works.", "Why?\n\nYou can literally have a good balanced map, turn on the destruction for normal games. Then if you want, turn it off and have the same perfectly balanced map for comps where none of the buildings fall down. Or have limited destruction. You don't just program the destruction to be a single entity.", "So guess we all go back to the train station in battlefield 4?", "You couldn't battlefool your mother on the battlefoolingest day of your life if you had an electrified battlefooling machine!", "flashbacks intensifies\nStarcitizen is exactly how you dont do a fucking game.\n\nThe kickstarter was fine\n\nThey have now deviated so far they are basically making the sequel before the first game.\n\nGah", "There’s a list out there showing specific features that CDPR promised, that were not in the final game. There are over 50 features missing.", "I actually finished cyberpunk and played it quite a bit, i bought battlefield and refunded it within 40 minutes. It was horrible", "Yeah it’s one of the strangest things I’ve ever payed still don’t know what to do lol", "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GJpwUTMwiVY", "I'm not sure if that's the list I have seen back then but if it is I think it was only 30-something items at the time and there were already quite a few that were untrue (like using the flathead outside of missions which was announced at first but they then told months before the game came out that it was cut, I'm also pretty sure there was vehicle and/or appartment customization on there) and some that were repeated.\n\nThe one list I've seen is exactly what I had in mind when I said I didn't understand people lying when there are obvious, true, issues with the game.", "Oh no a video game has bugs", "2142 was awesome and so original. For me the best one", "I almost forgot this game is manufactured by EA", "I actually find that sub to be less so a place of denial and more so just a true fan-site. People go on there, post screenshots, talk about characters.... reminds me a lot of the Mass Effect subreddit. Generally good place. Criticisms of the game are discussed there but usually with a level head by people who have put many hours in the game.", "This comment... \n\nMission accomplished.", "Same, and was then immediately disappointed once they released the beta and it turned out that they just went back to the BF4/BF1 style, which IMO has been dated for about five years now.", "The main problem is they already had a full game with most the bugs worked out. All they had to do was use the layout of BF4 and update graphics, guns, vehicles, and add new maps. Not a single person would have been upset", "You can refund preorders for EA games, so I suggest you do that now", "They used to be big profit machines, too. Early video games were entirely designed around whatever factors could get you to put the most quarters in the machines. Love updating and more games being put out by publicly traded companies make the difference now.", "Well it got no singleplayer so not much use to pirate it.", "I enjoy the battlefield games, but I don't know that I would call myself a fan. I've been enjoying bf42 greatly and I've had none of these issues. My biggest issue is I will occasionally lose input from my mouse and keyboard for a few seconds. Obviously this video is taking short clips of specific content in order to make a point.\n\nHaving said that, if you think the internet doesn't bandwagon and blow things out of proportion, I'm not sure what to tell you.", "i died laughing", "can't wait for the comments of people simping this game like cyberpunk.. \"I just bought it for the story anyways and don't care if the AI is border line brain dead\"", "As long as AAA titles still print millions of dollars we will continue to receive complete dog shit.", "Yeah, did it this weekend..", "I played Metal Gear Solid 5 for 300hrs only to determine I hate it.", "You know he has ascended when he makes you laugh without even saying a word. A Legend!", "Lol regardless of your enjoyment, you overpaid my dude. It is what it is. B4 had a buggy launch but the vanilla content was at least fully realized. There were like 60 guns. In B2042 there are a really small number. Arent there also only 4 specialists? Edit: There are 8 but my point stands.\n\nAgain glad you are having fun that’s not my concern. More people could be having fun if the game was worth it had a full suite of features.", "Embarrassing release.", "I really think its just Marketing and Management of these games being dicks and making unrealistic promises. Also maybe the devs are trying to implement the most insane vision of the game, but at launch they are probably not even 50% completed and just realease. Basically every launch is just an Alpha and then the Beta and 1.0 eventually rolls out when nobody cares.", "Hollow Earth confirmed.", "17+ means 18 and above, the plus means larger than, not larger or equal than", "It didn't help that it wasn't unjustified hype, CDPR had great PR, if Witcher 3 was any indication of their level of effort and polish, how good might CP2077 be?\n\n..They lost all that good will.", "Yeah, and when my GPU eventually dies, I’m going to be forced into retro gaming anyhow. 2030 is a good target for getting past the chip shortage.", "If you guys preordered it/ bought it\nThis is all on you guys. \nWe keep saying stop preordering and don’t buy multiplayer games only on day one. My friend bought this day one and is pissed after sinking in 3 hours and wanted a refund haha. I knew this shit was gonna be horrible", "Really? I always thought it was weird the US had a 17 rating. But we have an MA15+ and R18+ which include those ages, so I never really questioned it much.", "Hey Siri", "No it doesn't, lmao.\n\nThat's \">17\", not \"17+\".\n\n\"17+\" _definetly_ means \"17-and-over\".", "There are 8 specialists, of which I’m not keen. I much prefer the original class system. But there’s things about all the other battlefields I didn’t like. \n\nIt’s a matter of perspective. I don’t play the series for the most ultra realistic battle sim, nor do I, or ever did play it for the story. I played it to have a big old ear with a few far distant friends, twice a week when the kids are in bed. \n\nIt has ticked that box, and for that I don’t think I overpaid at all. I’m happy with my purchase.", "That's exactly what it was! Funny enough I was just listening to them again last night too lol", "No, bring up the glitches too. If EA wants to pay content creators to make videos that stay away from bugs, people not on their payroll can do the opposite.", "Why the hell is anyone that happens to enjoy the game getting downvoted? People can enjoy things...", "I've been mentally referring to it as wonderland since it released. It's just so much more natural", "Gotta take that clown makeup off and stop preordering.", "To be fair, the trailer looks fuckin sweet!", "\"They'll buy it anyway, so why bother?\" is my bet.", "Well there are still games which are finished at launch, FH5 for example.\nBut especially for battlefield everyone should know not to preorder after battlefield 4 and 5", "I had no bugs when I played, but I also had no AI, no vehicle pathfinding, perks straight up not working, perks working but not having any use at all (undetectable under.... water?), no character customization, nothing of substance in the open world at all and, like Whose Line Is It Anyway, when you reach level 9 the stat numbers are made up and don't matter.\n\nand j/k I had a 3600 and a 3080 and I hit record on my shadow play whenever something buggy happened and I had to stop because my recording folder was getting massive", "Or we could just not buy them at launch.", "Not sure why I had that figure in my head, might be mixing up some numbers I read somewhere else. Just had time to look it up. Corrected my original response.\n\nStar citizen is at 400+ now and not yet finished. Will end up being most expensive game ever made", "That dlc was worth it for the match loading screen music alone", "The first TTK (time-to-kill) change only lasted like a week and because of the massive amount of backlash before its implementation they offered 2 different playlists. One with the new lower weapon damage values and one with the old damage values. Considering how quickly it was reverted everyone would have thought that was the end of that.\n\nThat's what makes the second TTK change so immensely mindboggling. That despite the massive backlash year before, they insisted on keeping the changes (and not offering an alternative this time). And yet they eventually gave up to the massive negativity surrounding their change that they had to revert it again. Not to mention that the game was finally earning back some goodwill due to the release of the Pacific part of the game. To just throw all of that away for a change that everyone involved knew wasn't wanted by anyone. \n\nOne day I would love to know what the fuck was going on behind the scenes back then.", "Watched this last night and i couldn't stop laughing, amazing how a game with this budget and a franchise/developer/publisher with this history can still release a game this broken on release.", "So you’re telling me there’s hope.", "To be honest, this emergent interaction seems more fun than the 'correct' interactions for a hovercraft haha.", "I'm sorry but it is that way. You can easily google it. It also makes sense, because 17 would be a weird age to use.", "This guy didn't put hollow knight in the indies...", "You're right!\n\nWhat the fuck is wrong with me?", "I'm pretty sure the 17+ rating that most of us know actually means that no one at the age of 17 or under can use that game. Technically it isn't a 17+ rating but a \"17 and under (can't play)\"\n\nAt least there doesn't exist a rating where you can play the game as a 17 year old", "It didn't do any of the things you said because there are no difficultly options, they might say \"normal\" or \"hard\" but they're all easy. After level 9 you can hack everyone through walls and infect everyone. If you ignore hacking you can get some of the head shot Crit skills from cool and now you're popping melons like no one's business.\n\nThe stealth gameplay mechanics were as shallow as a McDonald's BBQ cup and just a wide.\n\ngame not finished", "Unpopular opinion: the difference is mainly people’s expectations", "Haha yeah and judging from the snickering Aculite and the boys agree", "Pure instinct to shoot at anything that moves only to realize what it it actually was", "Thanks fam x", "Reddit says you're not allowed to like it", ">you can't get Battlefooled again.\n\nguitar riff", "Gotchu boo x", "Chef's kiss is cringe", "My fav part of the bf issues is aiming down sight only to have it lag for 1 second then youre dead. Never fails", "I mean, the game was released with it, so it must be intentional, right? ha", "There a new game modes coming with the new event apparently", "Because i want to play it when it comes out, not the day after", "The bigger problem isn’t bugs tho; it’s missing features. They didn’t even include dog tags.", "fucking hilarious seeing hovercrafts crest over the top of skyscraper, but yeah, gameplay wise it sucks. those rooftop points are impossible to capture on breakthrough", "why are the mythbusters off the air when we have such burning questions?", "If they’re smart, they’ll throw Golmund into Portal (and Backstab)", "The thing is previous games didnt have such terrible clipping issues, so how is the engine going backwards?", "I miss BF1942", "God help everyone that played the free open beta and still bought into the \"the beta build was xyz years old\" bullshit.", "AAA gaming is such a joke these days its pathetic.\n\nAt this point I got like maybe 2 devs I actually trust and after that I stick to the indie devs.", "After all the shit this pos industry keeps pulling you still think the next elder scrolls game is gonna be decent?", "that and D1 (or is it 2?) on Kaleidoscope is also impossible", "Ask yourself the question, is our children learning?", "You see this is what happens when people work from home.", "Battlefield one still has major glitches in the campaign. Anyone expecting battlefield to be a COD killer anymore are delusional", "Music is definitely still going strong at least. Check out ZHEANI too", "> They already made their $600m\n\n$400m. No need to blatantly exaggerate. $400m is ridiculous enough.", "How did you not experience the hovercraft going vertical on skyscrapers? I barely have 20 hours in and that happened every single time I played on that map!", "I think the issue is people who don't want to dedicate funds to gaming that think they deserve the same experience. I don't make a ton of money and my family is taken care of, but almost every dime that I spend or my wife spends on my birthday, father's Day, Christmas or whatever else is typically spent on my electronics. If you want the high end experience in gaming you either dedicate yourself as a gamer or don't.. but why go online and complain when realistically we've come to a point that game developers can't let their hair down and make amazing games because they have to dumb things down for subpar and out of date systems. More companies, not less, should make games that aren't intended for casual gamers. You don't have to be rich, you just have to cut out other hobbies and maybe drink less soda or something to save.", "There series topped out with BF1942 and has been getting worse from that point on.", "TBH attacking rooftop objectives are almost impossible to win on BF 2042 90% of the time the defending team calls a Vehicle in on the roof and thats its never dies", "How is that a bug that breaks anything for me? I find it hilarious watching it happen, and it's not like it makes a difference when you can call in a hover on top of a building anyway. I swear people just don't like fun anymore, whining seems to be the new \"fun\", it's weird.", "Who would've thought removing community servers, all chat, VOIP, and making the maps way too big would've resulted in a lack of coordination?", "Agreed. This is after I preordered BFV and hated it. 🤡", "I think an exception to this is personally FromSoftware, I don't think they've ever missed, their track record speaks for itself and I'm personally good with pre-ordering from them.", "I know the game has issues but I’m not gonna lie I’m like level 25 now and the only bugs I’ve really dealt with is a few death glitches and bugged lobbies but it’s nothing finding a new lobby cant fix", "I played a few games of Infinite and went back to playing Splitgate. It's a better halo game and the portals really add some crazy options but none of my friends will give it a shot", "Who says videogames cannot be art?", "That’s when you go into the ini file and turn off fog lmao.", "Right! Maybe stop buying games from publishers who have historically released broken games, and stop preordering games to incentivize them to cheap out further since they've already made a healthy chunk of change. But nope, people keep supporting these companies and then are shocked when nothing changes - and why would it, when they make more and more money?", "I'm not saying the game is spectacular, but I have put about 20 hours into bf and haven't seen a single one of these glitches", "And they should've fixed that exploit. Let's not forget rubber banding, \"enemy spotted\" repeating over and over again in quick succession, taking a ass long time to get to the menu from games, plus many others. Sure some weren't bugs, they sure sucked as a feature.", "Eh, agree to disagree. Split gate felt extremely clunky to me where halo is very smooth. It's a fun concept but doesn't great to play.", "Jesus dude, how do you not get this?\n\nThere is no delusion. I am perfectly aware that doing this means I can waste my money on a game and that in it, in theory, encourages bad games. \n\nYou're just mad that you can't tell me what to do. So you have to come up with some reason to write me off instead of just accepting that it's a valid reason to play a game without reading reviews.", "I mean, some people did a similar video [9 years ago...](https://youtu.be/HKorNrdYuow)", "end-stage capitalism", "I learned my lesson all the way back to Battlefield 2 which still had the same bugs and issues that previous versions of the game had. I remember hoping for them to patch the game and then they released the trailer for BF3 and I realized they don't care about making good games.", "Alongside the trailer for the next Battlefield game.", "The game has a minimap.\n\nYou're not in wrong though, but again.\n\nMissing features != bug\n\n\nThe game is incomplete not buggy.", "It's ok. I ordered Cyberpunk the day before to preload it. I feel like I got my money's worth of entertainment out of that game but I'm no saint in the eyes of the no preorder gang. I went in with both eyes open though. Knew there would be issues based on the review embargo and amount of Witcher 3 patches. I enjoyed that game despite the issues and I look forward to improvements.", "Thankfully they can be taken out easily by the big sniper you unlock and the anti vehicle rounds. Once everyone unlocks that people are going to be moaning that vehicles need a buff.", "Seconded. The gameplay was awesome. My biggest complaint was changing loadouts but that really didn’t affect how fun it was.", "Mr. President, are you ok?", "For at least the past decade, there hasn't been a reason to pre-order any game. Pre-orders were made to allow you to reserve a physical copy of a game but now every game is digital and therefore infinite. There won't be supply issues and therefore no need to pre-order.", "> usually there are pre-launch discounts\n\nNo there isn't. Any discounts that do happen will also exist at least a week after release.\n\n>in most cases you get to preload\n\nInternet speed isn't that slow these days. You can load the game after you buy it.", "cope", "Are there any pre-order bonuses that weren't eventually given to non-preorder players?", "What else did you expect? You'l never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry.\n\nIf you want to play Battlefield, play Battlefield 3.", "I thought we sort of were for a while. It's become pretty common place for games to be \"delayed\" a few months. Honestly anymore i feel like that's just a tactic to build goodwill with the playerbase.\n\n After EA took hits on Open Betas for both Anthem and Battlefront, I thought we we're probably going to see those go away too. But either EA doesn't learn their lesson very fast, or they're still making enough money that theres really no lesson to learn.", "Just threw another downvote on the barbie myself.", "They got rid of GP5 items entirely. Maybe seven or eight years ago. I remember them from very early seasons, but they changed up how warding and supports play quite a bit.", "Ohhh my god, the body flopping and rag dolling for 30+ seconds straight had me crying. What have you done to our beloved Battlefield Dice/EA?? The clip where the guy unloads half a clip into the back of an enemies head and all the bullets miss was honestly one of the most unforgiving things in the entire video. Falling through the world due to a texture map bug is one thing, but if you had ONE JOB it would be bullets able to reach their target in a first person shooter, while they are aiming down the sights clearly close enough. So so heavily disappointing. I've been a gamer for 25+ years and this is honestly the most disappointment I've ever felt over a game I expected to love. The countless missing features, game modes, classes... and people using the wingsuit like its a fucking rocket pack (rediculous to have in a BF game) will keep me from buying this title", "I mean is it really? EA always want to put Battlefield up against COD, even though they’re completely different. There was no way EA was gonna let them release more than a week either side of Vanguard. Did you play bf5?", "I consider it a Reddit pilgrimage.", "Nah man. This isn’t Battlefield 2017. Who’s to say hovercrafts can’t climb buildings in 50 years? This is just AAA devs thinking creatively of the future.", "Honestly still more fun than halo.", "Dice should release Portal for a low cost and concentrate on that. Community would love it.", "My EA account for stolen by a Russian dude and he spent a bunch of in game currency on Russian guns in BF1. Can confirm. (he changed the languages to Russian) \n\nEA support gave my account back easy so that was good at least.", "90% seems very generous", "oh, I wasn't aware that was an unlock. looking forward to it...", "I mean, in portal it could happen.", "Right. & I get that. I just feel like bugs/glitches are(in bulk) obvious & have to get fixed anyway.. but what they may be able to get away with is the direction they’ve tried to take battlefield in… apex/Cod/battleroyal ..which IMO needs some serious attention. It’s just not battlefield anymore.", "> No there isn't.\n\nYes there are, you see them all the time. What a ridiculous and easily disprovable thing to say. And sure, sometimes you see discounts after release, but that's not always the case. If you're excited for the game and you want to play as soon as it's available, then that's one benefit you get.\n\n>Internet speed isn't that slow these days.\n\nInternet speed is still very slow in a lot of areas, even in the US. Just because you have good internet doesn't mean everyone else does.", "How does the portal version compare? I never played it", "Come back to Battlefield 1, the only BF that kinda works", ">Am I mistaken, or wer refunds not a massive deal not long ago with Cyberpunk, and Fallout 76 not long before that?\n\nYou are mistaken, yes. Refunds are super easy on most stores, particularly on PC. There are of course exceptions (like with Sony).\n\n>Don't pre-order.\n\nDon't tell me what to do with my own money. My money, my decision.", "While criticisms of CP2077 are valid, that game was excellent. Problem is, everyone can see how good it could've been if it had had more time. Certainly some people at CDPR fucked up. But if you play it, you can tell it was developed by people who truly cared about the world and that shines through.", "( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)", "QA most be considered low AF priority now. Back when you couldn't patch you game and it needed to be perfect, people tried to have no bugs. Now I feel like they don't care. Just release it when we said we would. \n\nIt's not like there's a major company that doesn't do this. Seems like the big ones all do it. Riot seems a bit better but they don't release a game every year. Plus they are free to play so nobody feels ripped off.", "Gabe is crying and screaming right now. Third rock from the sun dad is laughing.", "christ, is PS2 still going? \nI remember playing it years ago and it was already past it best days at that point.", "Some of my favorite moments back in the shitty internet days was using the console to break HL2/CS/Gmod and watching the hilarity", "AAA multiplayer games maybe? I only play single player games these days, kind of lost interest in multi player in my late 20s. I'm an old man now at 38 years old and don't do PC gaming anymore, strictly RPGs and platformers on the ps5. Ghosts of Tsushima is currently sucking up all my time and its amazing.", "Honestly this was the worst year for gaming in like 30 years. Everyone who makes games needs to sit down and reflect on this shit. The industry is broken, the talent is nonexistent. How did it get this bad?\n\nLike this is what they came up with after covid bought them two years of breathing room? Fuck...", "Well for the first time I realize that we may be at a point in time where Gmod is an old game that kids haven't played.", "I've had someone disconnect leaving us 3vs4 in 5 of my ranked placement matches and queued into 2 more where we started as 3vs4.\n\nThat's a bigger issue than any of the stuff I've encountered in BF2042 so far.", "I knew what I was getting myself into, the internet’s been loud and clear on their opinion of BF242 lol I just don’t wanna be afraid to voice my opinion for the sake of internet points.", "I lost it when I saw those bodies flopping around at the end. Nice job with the trailer lol 😂", "The gunplay was in such a good state when they fucked it up. I was so pissed.", "Yeah, it's not the largest FPS community by any means but it does have a core group that is very willing to teach new players the ropes.\n\nThere have been tons of content updates since early last year, and shortly they are adding an ocean/island map with brand new facilities and a revamped construction system.", "I haven't had much money to put towards gaming in a while. That being said, I played CP2077 with very few bugs on high settings. If anyone is in my situation, give game streaming a chance. GeForce Now streams your games with high-end gaming PC performance.", "I had so many issues with Battlefield 3 it was insane. Somehow the license for my account wasn't activated correctly even though I bought it through Origin I'm pretty sure. I would connect to a game and play for an indeterminate amount of time before the system would boot me with a generic error message. I finally got help after putting something into the Better Business Bureau where the EA person finally saw the license issue on my account.", "Rough landings but they tend to age very well.", "The verse lmao", "Grand Theft Auto V had a budget of $265 million and is considered one of if not the best video game of the modern generation. There's no excuse for how barebones Star Citizen is after $400 million dollars in funding and nearly 10 years in development.", "Single player games can still come out complete messes. Bethesda is notorious for it and Cyberpunk 2077 was one of the biggest disappointments in a decade.", "ah yea, cyberpunk, I was pretty hyped for that game but ended up avoiding it from the news.", "This game is hot garbage and while it has its moments of fun, overall I think this will be the nail in the coffin for BF.\n\nI hate EA. They buy franchises that are amazing and then totally milk and destroy them.\n\nAs far as I'm concerned EA should be removed from everyone's \"buy lists\" until their bankrupt so we can get good games by good developers again.", "I was a few weeks shy of 30 when Garry's Mod came out. Not to say we haven’t hit that point, because it definitely is an old game that kids haven’t played, but I’m not one of said kids.\n\nI was just being weird because it was late and I knew that stupid comment would make my wife giggle.", "For the millionth time, CP77 is a shit game because promised features are not in the game. The plethora of bugs are just on top of that.\n\nAlso, some bugs like item mods not working or skills doing nothing are not in the realm of \"I didn't encounter it\". You just were oblivious to them.", "Oh wow, I heard it was bad, just never knew it was this bad.\n\nI loved battlefield 2 and and 3 also, won’t be going back to this franchise anytime soon.", "I love the trend to call any buggy, unfinished game XYZ 77.", "I swear, these days people don't appreciate a good graphical bug. I piss myself laughing when I see dead people breakdancing, or stuck in a wall, or half a chopper having a fit. Unless it something that breaks the gameplay, I'm good to go.", "Battlefield 1 had so many bugs at launch. It’s pretty good now. \n\nPUBG was absolute trash for years but we kept playing it. It’s gotten pretty good now. Not nearly as big I suspect as far as fan base.", "The current state of video game releases has reinvigorated my love for “vintage” gaming. \n\nStarted by replaying halo 2. \n\nOrdered the old LOTR games for PS2. \n\nFired up the N64 and played Mario party with the family. \n\nHave a feeling this style of “release now and fix later” isn’t going to stop anytime soon. \n\nr/PatientGamers we’re playing the long game.", "Yeah, it's been a decade of EA games being launched prematurely with glitches & bad mechanics and zero QA only to be patched over the first year into something passable. They didn't learn with Battlefield 4, they didn't learn with Battlefront 2, they doubled down on Battlefield V, and they won't learn this time because people are still buying their shit.", "Oh I'm tired of this stupid bullshit. No. They did not put out one good game. They put out 3 back to back while developing their own engine to support the last two. Fuck, their countries prime minister gave the US president a copy or The Witcher 2 as a gift because of how fucking proud Poland was of CDPR. CDPR gave us expectations and then fucked them. We in no way shape or form were \n\n>Expecting a bit much.", "If it is like Battlefield V it will never leave early access.", "Battlefront 2 is almost passable, only took 3.5 years. Of course, they immediately stopped further support after that, so we'll call it a draw.", "Turns out EA stands for “Early Access”, now.", "Just as bfv kek", ">Similar to almost all the other big companies currently. They're running on reputation. Put out an absolute minimalist product that technically \"works,\" but has almost zero actual QA or dedicated bug fixing outside of the most visible game-breaking stuff\n\n>I'm genuinely curious how long it will take to burn through that reputation.\n\nAbout 18 months IMO, most family/friends aren't online enough that are following social media for gaming", "As a non-halo player growing up. I am not impressed with halo infinite at all.", "Don't be deceived friend. They are mentally conditioning you for the microtransaction fuckfest you will need to endure later.", "The 2077 actually refers to the end of public beta", "Ehhhhh, I do think quite a lot of them love Halo. And I definitely think the battle pass has some wrinkles to be ironed. But that subreddit does not like 343's Halo. Even if they are giving us a title that is even closer to classic than Bungie's last hurrah with reach.", "Not saying Battlefield 2042 doesn't deserve criticism, but he very clearly selectively edits his videos to make games seem a lot worse than the average user might experience. It's been a problem for years with his vids", "It actually took me a minute to realize it was Dunkey — I’ve never seen one of his videos without any commentary. And yet I still found myself giggling through most of the video.", "Again I am glad you are happy with it, but you definitely overpaid. You can accept that and still be happy with the purchase or feeling of joy it brings.", ">DICE LA producer David Sirland said the company acknowledged that the release of Battlefield 4 \"absolutely\" damaged the trust of the franchise's fanbase.\"\n\nYet they still release shit day 1.. so they have not actually acknowledged that.", "Dołącz do bitwy i broń swojej granicy przed hordami w tej otwartej piaskownicy w BatelField. Walcz w wieloosobowej grze online z setkami graczy i odkrywaj świat ze znajomymi w tej grze MMO!", "SUPER MARIO BROTHERS 2 BAYBEEEE!!!!!", "Played this yesterday. It was crazy sweaty! Was like I'm too old for this shit and went to the mode with AI. Genuinely had a lot of fun! Some bugs, but an overall fun experience.", "Yeah as part of the less inflammatory community. I played all of CO2077 and I loved every moment of that game. Well except for the 3 times I encountered game breaking bugs. But IMO it more than made up for it.", "Ok, so I'm honestly kind of mad at a buddy of mine. We tend to buy each other games that we want to play together. He tends to watch a cinematic trailer and immediately buy a game. I told him that this game has been review bombed and loaded with bugs and he STILL bought himself and me a copy. I don't even really want to play it, but now I feel obligated to.", "I remember that! Oh, I had so much fun doing that back in BF3. Had to get your LAV to top speed, launch off a ledge and into the water. From the speed, the water physics would shoot you backwards at a higher speed, hopefully into another body of water. Then you just ping pong back and forth and it was so cool until you launch out of the map and can't get back in time.", "Hard to pay attention when you're making boatloads of money.", "NMS was playable, though. It wasn't a buggy, glitchy mess. the problem with NMS was huge amounts of unfulfilled promises and straight up false advertising.", "I fucking lost it at the sliding dead bodies", "Holy shit that last clip. Comedic duration. What a trainwreck.", "It’s worst. I actually enjoyed Cyberpunk.", "So much bitching. Back in my day we had Mario and Contra and nobody complained!", "chad trailer vs virgin gameplay", "It’s like the goat the ancient hebrews tossed down the mountain for Azazel.", "Battlefield 3 was some of the best multiplayer back in the day. Then EA got greedy.", "I think last time I played was 2016 when the ANT was added.", "Heck, halo is still in beta. Hoping to see some minor fixes on full release.", "Ehh. I feel like more people are understanding team play as they get used to the maps. I had a game yesterday where a random ten of us were holding down a choke point next to a flag. I was putting up barricades and trophy systems. Other guys were supplying armor, heals, and revives. Everyone was sticking behind the barricade. It was great", "Damn they out Call of duyt....", "At what point do gamers send them o court for selling a fualty product?", "Forgot I paid for the season pass or whatever on that game. Might break it out again.", "Most of the things I do are to amuse myself so I get you lol", "It's that one shot sniper with the big square handle. Its designed for close up use, but it's a one shot kill to chest within 100m. Stodeh did a video the other day showing the anti vehicle rounds. He was taking out choppers and hovercraft with three shots and taking out the ospreys in four shots.", "Hey. Halo 4,5? You already forgot about them. Stop whining, enjoy your SPNKR", "As soon as devs could reliably patch games over the internet they started shipping them incomplete.", "Omg is it another game that came out unfinished and the trailers don't match gameplay?? This is absolutely unheard of. I can't wait to preorder my next game.", "Cringe is cringe", "I was pretty disappointed with the beta too but still got it since I could code my own games in Portal. I’ve been really getting into the main game more than I expected. It’s pretty fun once you get into it.", "Bf2 was my shit. Then bf3 finally came out and killed it. I'm glad I pretty much stopped playing after that", "BF4 took more than a few months though", "Yet it's everyone's favorite battlefield..somehow.", "and thats why people got refunds day 1 lol like we get battlefield got bugs on release but god damn i feel bf4 and 3 went off smoother then this lmao", "This.", "Bugs are not a universal thing. CP is well known for different hardware gave you different experiences. I only had a couple, the T pose big and a couple of crashes over 120 hours. I had a very good experience. The only difference was my hardware. Lots of people with high end rigs said they didn't have as many issues. Cdpr set too high of a bar to play their game.", "I just gloss over the title when I read it and mentally read Balan Wonderland, even though I know it's wrong.", "With battlefield, historically its been the other way around. \n\nDICE LA (now ripple effect) fixes the game after the main studio manages to screw it up. \nBattlefield 4 was saved by DICE LA after launching in a horrendous state. \nThe best part of 2042 (portal) was made by ripple effect.", "So call in a vehicle or stop camping the edge of the map. 50 hours in and I've never had that problem. The complaints of the maps being too big is straight up bizarre.", "where the fuck is his review of gta DE? did he stream it already?", "They see me rollin' \n\nThey reviewin'", "Did they ever fix the sound bug? There was a vehicle sound bug that got carried over from 1942 up to bf2 and everything on its engine. I forget what exactly it did but it was really annoying. Like you'd have no sound if you were driving half the time.", "> \"Coming Spring '23\"\n\nSo... a launch date. I get what you're saying, launch dates are stupid, but also - kind of impossible not to have.", "Well I mean.. if you're an actually good dev, would you rather get a shit salary at a shit job doing uninteresting stuff or would you rather work on a passion project for yourself as an Indie game maker?", "Guess I'll stick to battlefield 3. Thanks.", "Yeah. I'm at 50 hours and I've seen maybe one of those bugs, and tbh they're just funny when they happen. Having a blast with the game. Too busy enjoying it to even notice the stuff people are complaining about. It's just the reddit hive mind doing its rounds with pitchforks, as usual.", "Neymar when someone breaths in his direction @ 2:40", "Bro, same. Am triggered. I've had that experience multiple times where I am definitely pouring lead directly on-target, point-blank, and get zero hit markers nor kill. It's the #1 thing that makes me really wish I could just refund the game.", "I'll take option 3: Work in B2B and have a proper salary", "I know he's getting paid to play it because it's not New World.", "Thing is, it's fun as fuck. This video shows stuff that only happens on rare occasion (50+ hours in and I've seen only one of these happen). Most fun I've had in Battlefield in over 10 years.", "It’s sad. I have been waiting for this game to come out forever and now I’m back to playing bf4 it’s still better than this.", "I played the game for 100 hours already and didnt see a single one of rhese bugs 0-0", "I just got the second place Thanos one to -88888! (Granted, with fuzzing that might be a few off)", "Major updates since then have been Escalation, which added the War Asset system where each territory is worth 1 of 3 different types of resources. Outfits can then spend these on a Bastion Fleet Carrier, Colossus heavy tank, ANVIL orbital vehicle drops, and other things. (2042 eat your heart out!)\n\nThen there was the Shattered Warpgate, which introduced a Campaign system to reveal some lore about the game. It was basically a backdrop for overhauling the continent of Esamir. They also overhauled the daily Ribbon system into a more dynamic Mission system where players can pick and choose which daily mission they want to do, which will reward various currencies and sometimes even free weapons.\n\nWe also got the _INTEGRATION update which added an entirely new faction of Nanite Systems robotic mercenaries. It's not a \"fourth\" faction per se, but these characters will auto-assign to the lowest population faction as a means to balance everything out. However they do have an entirely unique set of weapons and vehicles at their disposal.\n\nComing up soon is the new continent of Oshur which is a map with multiple separate islands. It will be construction-focused with a nice mix of developer-made bases and open capture points where players can build their own bases. They've also added a water traversal system with different interactions for various types of vehicles. There will also be an update/overhaul to the Construction system but it hasn't been revealed yet.", "My biggest complaint with them is how much damage they can take. It’s like fighting a main battle tank except it can climb walls.", "\"Hmm, how can we piss off our entire fan base as much as possible, and then rub salt and feces into their wounds. I'm sure that will bring us more sales!\"", "What the hell. Mine is empty. Maybe I shouldn't constrain myself to western AAA RPGs.", "Feeling those Cyberpunk vibes", "NOWHERE IS SAFE", "Truer words have never being said.", "On PC at least, the $1 Xbox Gamepass did get me EA Play which then gives you 10hr trial for 2042.", "10 hours is probably longer than I'd want to play it anyway lol", "I like how you're being upvoted because bandwagoning but it's actually illegal to not say if the game is sponsored, there was a massive fiasco years ago in YouTube.\n\nBut yes streamer bad!", "I love that subreddit", "Is that a intended feature or a bug (or both maybe?) Its just hard enough to pull off at times that it made me question whether or not if I am supposed to be able literally scale skyscraper in that thing.", "Sure, it's your money, but just because you can doesn't mean that you should. You're trying to justify your reason for bad decision making, and those mental gymnastics show that yes, you're delusional. I've seen you around, so I'm not surprised.", "I got an hour into cyberpunk and got a refund. That was the last game i pre-ordered.", "Been playing since the original BF1942 :)\n\nDid look like the look or feel of BFV but to each their own", "It just warms my heart that Dunkeys videos can make it to the front page of reddit. \n\nHis work (and no doubt mood) has improved so much since he stopped making League videos and decided to focus on more of his journalism-style videos.", "I do believe the talent is still as present as it ever was, it's management that has tanked. Add to that the complexity of games compared to previous decades that need the coordination of dev teams 10 times larger and I think we're hitting the plateau of what can reasonably be accomplished, yet they seem to keep aiming higher and failing", "I think it's just hilarious that most people think Orbital is the worst map, but you're here saying none of them are as fun. Lol.\n\nI disagree about Container, did you even go to C/D/B points? Containers are just on A and E. B is a hilltop with a couple buildings C and D are boats, with verticality.\n\nPersistence Error was fixed on like, day 3 of early access?\n\nMcKay is a level 15 unlock. It takes like, a day of playing to get him. Lol", "IMO fallout 76 began that era, the era of massive highly hyped AAA projects from respected dev houses that are barely functional pieces of software much less actually good games.", "Isn't this par for the course with Battlefield/Battlefront games?\n\nIf its not rushed out full of bugs, its got shitty lootboxes, or both.\n\nI'm pumped to play 2077 in the spring when its $40 and fixed.", "Can someone name a game you couldn’t do this to?", "And Battleborn dev/QA was rushed to beat Overwatch to market.", "Approximately 1% of the planets population watched the world championships this week. It's still very popular.", "Fallout 76 happened before Anthem, and was one of the first recent major AAA titles from a highly respected studio that was not only a terrible game on release but also was barely even a functional piece of software.\n\nIt ain't just bioware. AAA gaming has been struggling a lot for the last 3 years or so.", "People focus way too much on the bugs of 2077\n\nIt detracts from the real issue - the game itself is trash.", "Not trying to downplay the fun you're having with the game, but it's sad that people are so easily satisfied. I really want to buy this game, because I miss battlefield, but I won't simply on principal. They didn't even do a single player campaign. At least several hours of campaign might have justified the cost given how bad the multiplayer issues are.", "Genius!", "Wow! Time to redownload", "It sucks cause I never had issue with 4 on launch and I consider that game one if not the best shooter of all time and every single feature in 4 and all the stuff they fix are not in 2042 it's very sad", "People for whatever reason expected a totally different game from Witcher 3, from the same dev team. Novigrad had \"literally nothing to do\" either, outside of going into alleyways and killing people.", "“Now watch me make this drive.”", "I love how they haven't touched that account in 4 years. Those poor PR workers who probably felt really good about that account when they started it. They probably all changed industries by now.", "I don't think it's necessarily a play on anything. The channel is from 2012, we had weird names back then.", "The song at the end wrapped up the hilarity in a nice bow. Anyone know if that's from another game or what? A take on the Battlefield theme?", "And people still hold out hope that Dice can make a good shooter", "Possible unpopular opinion : Battlefield Vietnam was the best battlefield game and it isnt even close. \n\nAlso...i feel bad for the kids that have grown up in this shitty era of DLC and broken AAA title games. Things were simpler and even more fun 20yrs ago.", "Its actually kind-of rad, definitely good for a couple dozen hours of exploring the world and existing game loops. That’s assuming you have the system for it and a bit of patience to get over some initial bug-dodging learning curve.", "I am pretty sure it is 2042, not 2077", "Well Seymour, you're an odd fellow, but you steam a good ham.", "I think they have also raised near ~$100M from private equity, I know the calder family is in for like $60M. That’s on top of the public crowd funding stuff. Also interesting fact, they just posted their first ever profit last year.", "We need to like boycott all AAA titles or something at this point.", "I though cd project red set a bar high, but dice set it even higher.", "had me rolling !", "I preordered to play the prerelease demo, didn't like it, got a refund.", "Halo was delayed by a year+ but it's launch has been absolutely rock solid. EA / Ubisoft make me wary, but there are still AAA devs making good game that are releasing solidly. Control also comes to mind as a recent release that was rock solid, albeit without multiplayer to worry about, and on the multiplayer side I've never seen Apex Legends and Fortnite be anything other than incredibly solid as well. Outriders is an odd game but for a devs first stab at a coop rpg it's been pretty fantastic since launch.", "The exact game that made me stop preordering anything, and stop buying anything Battlefield! I remember someone (maybe the head of PR?) hyping up BF4 to be a new FPS eSports title, and we got:\n\n* Firefights ending in kill trades at an abnormally high rate\n\n* Maps not updating properly on client side after Levelutions, resulting in invisible objects in the map\n\n* Bugged spawning that prevented you from actually spawning, requiring you to leave the server\n\n* Battlelog not having the basic queueing function that was in BF3\n\n* DLC announced before the game even launched, and due to be released about a month after the base game\n\nAnd after months of mayhem, the PR guy, who clearly just had his head up his ass during the entire time, \"Hey guys, how are you enjoying BF4 so far?!\" I've been trying to find the name of the guy, or the tweet, because I remember it really riling up the community.", "Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me chicken soup with rice", "That’s the future of warfare.", "Others have reported many bugs within ours of playing. Every stream I watched had at least one. This time it might be pretty legit tbh.", "The Age of Hype has peaked", "I'm going through this exact situation right now with San Andreas definitive lol. Got it \"free\" with game pass day one and played through it all and absolutely loved it. It was my favorite game as a kid, and playing the original when I was 10ish it felt hyper-realistic like gta 5 does now. Replaying it I felt it kept just enough from the original, while making the whole environment feel quite a bit more polished. My only real issue was the girlfriend characters face did get troll-ified which looked really dumb. But I thought it was a great remaster, and this is me coming out of the closet in a way because the hate is so real for that game lol.", "Certainly has enough bugs to be the fking frostbyte engine, I guess even dice doesn’t know how to use it.", "True. Situational awareness is key. True to many shooters. But man is it fun to flip that around. There is actually a medal for being shot first and winning the firefight.", "it's just a sound bite. literally any song can have that.", "Love me some Aculite", "This industry needs a new crash and fast.", "r/whoosh", "You're kidding right? 2042 IS crashing for a lot of players with directx errors, myself included. I could only play the portal reliably up until yesterday. I had to underclock my cpu which allowed me to play for at least an hour on the main game.", "BF2, Special Forces and 2142.\n\nShout out to BC2 Vietnam which i quite liked as well.", "This would of been the case if they only showed a single trailer or two and people jumped to conclusions from there.\n\nInstead they swore up and down that this was gonna be a game changer. Then dedicated a good chunk of time to showcase feature of the game that weren't there when it came out.", "Not really. I just dont find it funny and it is a whoosh on your end because it is what we actually got. Not what we are going to get. Regardless, i am done with you :)", "People keep saying this but it is literally the most uninspired Halo FPS to date. The ONLY innovation has come in the form of adding decent map ambiance through map events that look cool when you score a goal. \n\nNot only that, but it is among the most predatory on peoples nostalgia. Stop supporting shit games.", "The key is timing, there is a 3 week window where the game is as advertised before every server becomes riddled with cheating.", "the other 10% they just sit there with rockets watching the elevators", "pp-29 simulator", "ONLY AAA developers/publishers release games this broken on release. At least fukken asset-clone, amateur-tier FPS early-access trash on Steam has the decency to crash to desktop or look like total shit. \n\nThe technical skill/development required to fuck up in the ways shown in the OP are next level, enabled by a decade of tooling around in Frostbite.", "I haven't played that game in years. Is it still active?", "Trash game, trash developers.", "Then there is [crobat](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Crobat_(Pok%C3%A9mon)).", "What game loops? Please explain where the \"game\" is in Star Citizen.", "Anyone play Frontlines: Fuel of War? \n\nOne of those games that tried to get massive battles (32x32) early on (2008) and... actually succeeded.", "I had the detailed stats pulled up when trying to troubleshoot. It was saying that my CPU utilization was at 100% and my gpu utilization was at 30%. I opened task manager at the same time and it showed a CPU utilization at 28% and gpu closer to 80%. I couldn't make heads or tails of why it was different.", "AAA multi dollar company", "Wonderland is probably trademarked.", "If you look at the steam charts it seems like it's low, but keep in mind it is also played on it's own launcher by some so steam won't show all of it.\n\nWhat I can say is they have a very good system in place that adjusts how the game is played based on population, and very frequently I am having to sit in a mild to medium sized queue to get into certain continents during alerts. \n\nAll the continents are not unlocked at once, but the higher the population is overall it will open up additional continents.\n\nThe alerts take place and lock that continent at the end and then opens up another one so there is decent time between fighting on the same continent. It's hard to get bored of one.\n\nEven at the games lowest time during the day/week when there is not even enough people on to fill an entire continent (which doesn't happen too terribly often) the map will close off the majority of the territories and cause all the fighting to happen along 3 main front lines. A front line on the right side, left side, and center of the map. \n\nWith all the players funneled into these narrow fighting areas a low pop server still create pretty hectic battles, especially in the center of the map.\n\nEdit: This was type on a phone at work so sorry for typos", "The only draw back I have is that it’s online mandatory. Can’t play offline vs AI. Even when your solo in a game vs only AI you can lag", "Yea I used to like shroud back when he was a pro csgo player. But now, it just seems like he's a soulless husk built only for extracting money from people lol. The fact that he runs so many ads that are almost longer than regular tv ads is just proof of how far he's changed for money. No other streamer I watch plays nearly as many ads as shroud does, and shroud is manually playing them too for sure.", "Why does this game look worse than BF4 that came out 8 years ago??", "> As for cost, we selected the initial price of $60 based upon data from other unfinished games we published and you paid for anyway.\n\nThis was so perfect and took me by such surprise that I literally spat out my coffee. Thank you.", "Sony single player games are in a league of their own though, i don't really get why other companies don't copy their success.", "This is why I respect Dunkey. He got blacklisted from Microsoft when he shat all over their Xbox Live Arcade releases losing a bunch of money in the process.", "you mean 2:47 mark lol", "My only guess is they still make money with less effort?", "I have game franchises I miss. EA is a connecting thread.", "Right, I think the biggest problem is that despite Cyberpunk 2077 being a giant pile of shit on release, it was still a massive, unprecedented commercial success.\n\nWhich showed everyone that with the right marketing and hype, putting out rushed, unfinished games is a successful business model.\n\nWhich... Fuck. It'll come back around eventually. Shit like this literally caused the 80's gaming industry crash.", "I guess so, but for how long?", ">creating ships is hardly going to slow down the development of unrelated features,\n\nIf only this were true. The more ships they make, the more work they have to do every update pass on systems that affect ships.", ">absolutely\" damaged the trust of the franchise's fanbase\n\nBut they're so fucking stupid they'll shell out money for the next one anyway.", "I love how you can see that there’s already another hovercraft on the roof when he gets up there with his hovercraft \n\nThis game is a fucking joke", "Can't wait to get this for $5 in a year when it's playable.", "I can’t understand why everyone gets so worked up about the cosmetics", "Can’t wait to see the patch notes entry:\n\n“4.05: Hovercrafts can no longer climb buildings like a giant steel cockroach.”", "I’d love to see anyone from the studio respond to this, just to see what they’d say", "But also everyone loses their minds at Sony for the audacity of charging $10 more on their AAA exclusives that have zero microtransactions. \n\nIt’s a lose/lose for developers honestly. They’ll never be able to please everyone because there’s always a vocal group out there that wants more for less.", "Fallout New Vegas and 76 are side spin offs and not part of the main story. There is no Fallout 5 or 6.", "To be fair here, though, the first Witcher game was in a pretty sorry state before the enhanced edition.", "It didn't. https://imgur.com/a/bSZ8u9N", "Bye Battlefield, it was fun for a bit but I best be moving on. Good luck.", "I don't have time to play games or keep up anymore so I honestly thought this was going to be a real trailer for the new BF game. Are things really this bad nowadays?", "REVERSAL!!", "It’s definitely the best and most polished multiplayer shooter to come out this year.", "That, and from the grave are my fav medals.", "Hovercraft are legit the only way to assault the rooftops 95% of the time.", "That’ll definitely change in time and more maps will be added eventually. There’s just not been any official announcements or timelines yet.", "\\-Full Release version is call Release edition$79\n\n\\-Buggy version is called 'Early Access Edition \" - $119\n\n\\-Now we have \"QA Edition\" - $199", "I like that no scope is now a medal and on a slightly related note even if you don’t get a medal for something the AI still chimes in from time to time with something encouraging or funny to say. I beat someone down with the oddball and Circ just says “wow that’s embarrassing”. Loving that!", "Am I the only one who's entirely too angry about BF2042? What in the actual fuck snacks is this bull shit? I'll laugh at bugs and not complain. \n\nBut the game itself is awful in every possible way. It is a worse COD.", "At least you can make SWAT in custom games. We’ll have to wait for Forge to get Infection and Grifball unless they release them themselves.", "I have Fret and he’s a bit of a panicker. I have legit laughed out loud at some of his comments, particularly when grabbing the Flag in CTF.", "This game is ass. Looks like halo has the best fps out right now and it's not even close. Rip playstation", "Well this is a bummer. Both vanguard and 2042 are bad.", "yeah i feel like im playing pubg again and its not a good thing lol, lots of running in open ass fields", "That’s the one I haven’t tried yet. I’m looking forward to testing out the unlockable ones eventually.", "Holy shit that guy sliding for a good 30 seconds is what broke me.", "At least if you preordered on Steam you could refund it like all my friends did.", "I think most aren’t eventually given out. The real question is are there any preorder bonuses people still use a week after launch.", "So frustrated at these latest games. Infinite and 2042 run smooth with at least 30 fps on my OG XB1 but on my newer laptop with a 4gb 1650 and 24 gigs of ram I'm getting like 20fps.", "That's why I play ranked, not really because I care about climbing, but because it puts you with players at your skill level, and punishes quitters.", "Just doesn't sound like anything Guru would write.", "It’s a fine game. Just glitchy. Not worth the hate. Not worth the hype. It’s a decent play through.", "> pre-ordered\n\nI hope you learned your lesson. Have you?", "It’s both", "But can you do that in multiplayer?", "This man is fully loaded with weapons going to break the ice.", "Been on reddit for years and somehow I missed out on some ~~guy~~ hero connecting a power supply to his own balls to prove hooking up a car battery to your nipples wouldn't do much.", "Just play Hunt Showdown, a game actually made with love and care.", "Why is this youtuber always promoted here?", "Then you must not know what the meaning of the word delusional.\n\nYou can't explain why it's not a reasonable choice. So instead you get mad and try to discredit with insults like calling me delusional.", "Correct. It was pretty good.\n\nHowever— when a developer/publisher starts a five year-long hype train and consistently shows on-rails demos from a product which is in no way of representative of the actual game experience, they essentially create a perfect storm of disappointment.", "You can also respond to previously archived threads too! I love it!\n\nI've pretty much hated the 'archived' feature since its release. Happy to see it's back to the way it used to be.", "Triple A is not a mark of quality it’s a warning label.", "I can see myself getting this game at a hefty discount, once it's inevitably patched and worth more than $10.", "Thanks for sharing this video as it sums up why the game should not be purchased as it is not ready. With any luck it might be worth trying in 6 months to a year, until then EA is not seeing a penny from me for the game.", "I agree with you actually. I think it’s just incompetence.\n\nI personally dislike this model. I’m willing to give Path of Exile a free pass because the developers have done an amazing job. I really hate the eternal beta.\n\nAt some point WarFrame just stopped mentioning it was in beta. With no release. It’s also used to excuse a lot of poor quality.", "The trend kicked off with internet-connected patch delivery. Once devs have the option to fix stuff after it ships, it no longer seems critical to ship a rock solid product.", "Or people genuinely enjoying the game... I haven't even played bf 2042 so don't come at me, but stop bullying people into hating a game the din't hate", "I just hope that people and Battlefield can co-exist peacefully", "It's cool for you that you're having fun, but I can't even get the game to download. It just says \"DOWNLOADING\" without actually doing the part where a download happens. Somehow, this launch went even worse for me than 2077.", "On the bright side, that’s the only thing people are complain about. Unlike CP2077 and BF2042", "> The gaming community IS a bunch of spoiled children more often than not.\n\nCan you provide examples?", "Either the game is \"finished\" and therefore it's intended or it's not finished and EA needs to stop lying and selling half-built bullshit", "There’s like 1/8th of the amount of weapons in this new release. It’s trash.", "Yeah Battlefield 4 is strange in that it launched a half dead pile of garbage. Once it was fixed people hold it up as one of the best in the franchise. People forget and here we are. Those who forget can only hope this is what happens again I guess.", "Both things are deeply true.", "Just left a thread complaining about Halo Infinite complaining about MTX. But when it’s free, and games like 2042 are the alternative... it’s no contest really.", "You are delusional, you believe what you're doing is acceptable when it isn't. You are part of the problem every time you buy broken games that are poorly implemented and are released in bad faith. Pretending that you aren't is ridiculous.", "Well for anybody with standards that’s been paying attention since like BD3, it’s pretty much already burned up. BF4 was ok for what it was trying to be after tons of fixes. Every subsequent game they’ve put out has been repetitive garbage of lesser and lesser quality.", "The damage is done, BF2042 is getting slammed.", "I'm just here to see the Battlefield shills try and defend this in the comments.", "Yeah consoles suck but on Steam we can play a game for a full two hours and refund it no questions asked. Plenty of my friends did just that with Cyberpunk and Battlefield.", "Halo Infinite multiplayer is permanently free to play. They just launched it a bit early for the 20th anniversary. The campaign is paid and is launching on December 8th.", "I'm not sitting on anything. I just wanted to finish Halo CE coop campaign and it's literally bugged regardless of difficulty. I consider that a game breaking bug.", "by \"progress\" do you mean \"microtransactions\"?\n\nas far as I know there is no progression", "They don’t even need to make games at all anymore- just re-release existing titles for people to buy again. Or build transactions into existing titles", "Sony still doesn't get a pass, No Man Sky was pushed out early and killed. Miles Morales is a glorified Spiderman Expansion.", "This is the 12th major Battlefield game. The 5th game on the Frostbite 3 engine.\n\nHow the hell are they still having the same bugs around launch as all other releases. This isn't some small indie company, but one of the largest gaming studios in the world. Just how!?\n\nI thought about coming back, but nah. If they can't be arsed to have some basic quality after 19 years, they can suck my nuts, lmao.", "Battlefool me twice, fuck you birds!", "Cp2077 is still unplayable on Xbox series s, a year after release lol.", "lol. Their target audience is people who learned their lesson then forgot 6 months later. People are pretty stupid.", "Lmao, you're kidding, right? Literally anytime something doesn't happen exactly how Gamers^TM want it to, they throw a shitfit over it. I'd be here all day I got into it. But don't pretend like you don't know about how nasty some people can get over even minor things they take as slights against them. At best they get mad and make a whiney, angry post, and at worst they've literally doxxed people, harassed people with racism and bigotry, and made terrorist threats. \n\nMinor funny/stupid example: Remember puddlegate?\n\nMajor, violent, legitimately scary example: Remember gamergate?", "This guy clearly has not played the game.", "Glitches are common for every game, and I'm not saying this game has no or very few glitches, but selective editing, along with Dunkey going out of his way to recreate glitches for his content, is a bit disingenuous and paints the entire experience as being bad when in reality occurrences would be sporadic", "But if I am enjoying it, did I overpay?", "Yup, and it's usually on a new engine for some unknown reason which is 10x more glitchy then the original. I'm 100% fine with microtransactions as long as they're cosmetic only", "I've played CSGO with the same three guns for over ten years. If the gunplay is good nothing else matters. If you like battlefield and have a good PC you will absolutely like this game.", "Quality Assurance? Never heard of it", "For you perhaps, but the last single player campaign I played for battlefield was 4. I rarely have the time, nor the interest. With my demanding job, and two very young kids, I like to jump in, have a couple of games and switch off. Suits me down to the ground.", "Cyberpunk 2077 did begin the a new era. The era is new gamers bringing more toxic ideas into gaming while making already toxic gamers worse. The level of entitlement , shit talking and lack of knowledge in literally anything gaming has people Regurgitating the same videos /pics/ arguing points. \n\nPC games , in my 15+ years experience, has always had rough starts dating back from half-life 2. Yet the more people who revolve their day day around gaming completely set their moods and lives around a game launch knowing damn well they don’t give a shit about anything other than talking shit with everyone else about the game. \n\nIt’s real boring seeing all these circle jerk posts especially when the majority have never played the game let alone know what goes into game development. \n\nBring back the days when people actually chatted about the stuff they enjoyed rather than jerk off a negative community to reproduce more jerk offs. Bf2042 has way more positives than negatives— it’s only easier for uninteresting people to meet “friends” when you have something negatively in common. For those who actually enjoy life, find friends who you have positive experiences with. Life is easier than living in negative bs.", "One idiot had to pitch in about the whole gta fiasco.\n\n\"Well the water looks better so it's not all bad\"\n\nliterally fucking any game, with water, that's released after gta vice city will have water that looks better than vice city. These things are built into numerous plugins and assetts in the engines themselves.\n\nFor real, that's one hell of a low bar.\n\nI'm no developer but I'm pretty sure I can make better looking water myself.\n\nThe idiot answers with \"people who don't put in the work usually think they can do it better\"\n\nliterally a couple clicks away from replacing early 2000s water with post 2010 water.... Social fucking media and this fucking tik-tok generation.", "Yeah, this. I'll say the most honest conversation about CP2077 is there. It's a good game with bugs that was over promised. They're not afraid to point out flaws, but in the end, enjoy what exists. I wish more gaming communities were pragmatic like that.", "Gamers deserve this game with all its bug. The comparison with 2077 is a joke in it self. Reddit couldn't be happy with cyberpunk and now a really flawed and bugged game was delivered and they cry lol you asked for this", "Thank you, whenever people say gaming is a mess these days I'm like you must be forgetting PlayStation first party studios because their games are absolutely amazing. As for why other companies don't copy their success is because it takes an amount of skill and passion other companies don't possess because the only thing on their minds is greed and microtransactions...", "Blah blah blah", "Dunkey killed this one", "I wish it worked like that, fixing bugs once in engine and be done with it. \n\nAnd if you're comparing gaming studio sizes, you compare relative to what? Do indie game studios make big games like this? No. Do they have bugs in their indie games? Obviously. Dice created bigger game and has bigger bugs, it's simple as that. \n\nIt's not some magic with bigger studios, they don't have more people to work on same small game, they have just big enough amount of people working on huge game.", "That's cause hes in fuck off land with everyone's money lol. That gameis a different beast they didnt spend that on development they were donated that much. Highly doubt hes spending every penny on development.", "TBH I was expecting some grappling hook gadget or something, not straight up climbing vertical walls.", "Many of those people suffer from arrested development, though I will admit there exists quality game franchises, but you didn't grow up alongside this shit and think \"Oh I better pre-order\" and not be some form of sucker.\n\nNintendo for all the good they do still milk the shit out of their fanbase, old games cost as new. It's ridiculous, how about developing some standards?\n\nedit: i'm a fan of a handful of drugs.\n\nThey actually improve my quality of life. Doesn't mean I'm ready to pay premium prices if I don't know the quality, and I can also just wait for better opportunities rather than jump head first into any god damn listing. I want a fair price and a good quality, why? because I am not a fucking idiot about it.", "Launchers tend to break this option unfortunately.", "How do you mean?", "Maybe instead of paying CEOs multiple millions of dollars.. They could keep most of that money for the developpment of their games.\n\n\nSeriously this will kill the gaming industry if they keep release games like this...", "Anyone buying a battlefield game on release is asking for these problems.", "The bug could never exist in the original because there was no online co-op campaign.", "Yes. They are not mutually exclusive.", "again, you're validating my point. you can't shit on something that wasn't there.", "So you can pause now?", "The large maps are the entire point of battlefield. All this bitching sounds like people not understanding how to play the game properly. If you want small maps, play another game. \n\nPersonally, I bought the game a the day before release. I knew it would be buggy, but I also know it takes a week to get all my settings dialed in and another few weeks to get me dialed in. By then, there will be a few updates and hopefully most of the major bugs fixed. Until then, I'm leveling up and learning maps and metals.", "2042? Yes I did and then refunded it within EA's time limit. Was not feeling it due to lack of content and it was only 'run n gun'. BFV and previous titles allowed other play styles.", "So they should just delete the co-op campaign so it's not bugged?", "I think there is a lot of truth in what you say, but I also would like to point out that there are also a segment that have sensible grievances. When they see a franchise turn into something else or when a game they love gets turned into purely for profit thing, those people speak out for good reasons.\n\nBut you are right, there are a lot of immature people as well. I guess that just comes with the territory when it comes to games because players come in all ages.", "At least it's only cosmetics. It's not like Battlefront that keeps you from playing Darth Vader.", "tell you what, if you give me a proper recap of my first comment I'll answer your question", "NMS was not killed. It's one of the biggest turn-around stories in gaming history.", "You said two very old games released without any bugs when you can literally look up compilation videos of bugs in both games.", "You wait until they try to add physicalized components and redo the damage models. Every single ship is going to need to be redone completely or at least retouched to accommodate even the first iteration.", "A ponzi scheme requires paying off old investors, I don't think Star Citizen has actually given those old kickstarters anything.", "well feel free to list any game breaking bugs of those games please. and since the main point of my comment was that the trend today is to release broken games after luring in players then you must disagree and think this is not true and that games were released broken back then too and needed updates upon updates months after launch, except, they didn't take updates back then, hmm, you see how stupid you're being?\n\nNot to mention all this time you've been talking about a game with a broken co op that was released years after my two explamples so double stupid badge for you. I don't have time for your circular stupidity sorry.", "BF4/BF1 are hugely popular and still played to this day, they sold well and got great reviews.\n\nBFV - not so much", "I have not experienced any game breaking bugs in battlefield 2042.", "at least bf4 had a scoreboard and classes", "The end of it with like the dopey music made me just not want to buy it even more. It took Modern Warfare 3 years to finally be a semi-polished game why they think they can just pump out fps games is beyond me", "https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/qy3khw/battlefield_2042_technical_issuesbugs_support/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share\n\nmic drop byeeeee", "According to you if they just never patch those than that makes the game perfect on release.", "But that's the thing isnt it? Whenever someone brings up all the horrible bullshit gamers have done, it just becomes a race to absolve oneself of wrongdoing, while claiming the toxicity is just something everyone has to just deal with, because it \"comes with the territory.\"\n\n\"Don't get mad at me, I can't do anything about them. I'M the one with legitimate criticisms!\" was basically the catchphrase of every single gamergater.\n\nLike a big game of \"Not it!\" with no one actually wanting to change anything about themselves or how they react to things.", "I put 100s of hours into BF4 (PC) and it never seemed that terrible to me!", "So I guess delaying the release didn't really fix the game. I don't understand how they could have launched the game with this many bugs in it. Doesn't anyone do game testing during development anymore?", "> Like the moment the next game comes out and half the players quit it's going to be impossible to play such big maps.\n\nThat's the point. They want you to buy the next one.", "Woooow... Sound so amazing", "Needlessly shitting on people for being excited about their hobbies is pretty low tbh. And comparing preordering games to doing drugs is just plain crass.\n\nHere's a video which might help you learn some important life advice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI", "I know that but it was destroyed on release and rightfully so. how many cared that it was salvaged a year or years after?", "A pretty fucking large community. Enough that they still pump out new content five years later.", "MASTAAPEEECE", "I feel like no one ever acknowledgedes the giant problem that is no community servers. In the past you had your own favorite servers with a community these days it's matchmaking only. And don't you dare like different rules than the standard ruleset...", "Throwing infinite grenades down a corridor so no one can enter isn't my idea of fun", "well what the hell can people actually buy that's tangible now? \n\nEvery device you \"own\" is basically a license now, with some forced updates that make it slower over time, until you have to buy a new model. Oh you want to repair this for cheaper? Nah fam, can't have that.\n\nWant a home? You have to basically sign your disposable income away for the majority of your life and become house poor.\n\nMeanwhile, the governments are all printing money like no tommorrow, meaning that you are actually making less money relative to how much you were even a year ago. Why wouldn't people say well even if I play by the rules and am financially prudent, I still get fucked over, why not just yolo and forgo those financial habits.", "But that's true though. For every idiot there are also people with legitimate reasons for complaints.\n\nI personally believe that it's the vast amount of loud, immature, and ridiculous folks that always take the limelight. For instance, I fell in love with Battlefield in my thousands of hours playing 2142. And even though every game since then has gradually gotten lesser and farther from its roots, I still enjoyed many of them for what they were. But now it's gotten so bad I can't recognize what it is anymore. 2042 doesn't seem to be related to BF4, not BF2, so what is it? It shares more in common with Apex Legends, COD, and other shooters than it does BF.\n\nSo I ask you this... does that paragraph read as \"toxic\" to you? Do you think I'm being overly negative and hateful? My intent in saying that is me voicing my concerns of a franchise I've come to love turn so far away from what it used to be.", "You can take missions, earn money, buy items, upgrade your ship. Thats a game loop. \n\nIts pretty much what you do in any MMO. There's no \"goal\" other than to increase wealth.", "Progress isn't simply unlockables, my man. Progress can be time played, achievements unlocked, and however you value your time spent on the game. Personally, im on a mission to unlock every achievement in the game, and that to me is progress. While a lot of the achievements are fairly easy at the moment, imagine being someone like me to get a majority, only for them to reset at launch.", "battlefield pirates. That shit was dope when it had a population.", "GOt ya, usually when people are referring to progression it's gear", "LOL....", "You're missing my point. I don't care about what you have to say about your declining interest in Battlefield.\n\nPart of the problem is simply standing by in a toxic environment, and letting shitheads go unchallenged. Just throwing up your hands and claiming \"pffft well I'M not part of the toxicity.\" isn't enough. Oftentimes it still is contributing, much like the initial comments I replied to, in which they were basically denying gamer toxicity altogether, which is just sooo bafflingly dishonest...", "Everyone knows you wait 6-12 months to buy a battlefield game lol. Enjoy beta testers!", "Thanks for the link. That's neat.", "wtf same!", "They can pump shitty fps games because people keep buying them. So they'll continue making them and getting insane sales at the start with the communities and servers dying just so they can do another.", "Shillup is my go to. He said wait a year and check where it's at. Even if the bugs are fixed, with no classes it's not BF.", "Oh, I don't shy away from letting shitheads know what I think of their shite. And I'd employ everyone to do the same.\n\nBut you make it seem like the overwhelming majority are the toxic haters. There are some loud ones speckled in there, but overall I think BF 2042, Cyberpunk 2077, and countless other games have warranted the backlash.\n\nI also think there is some toxic and anger that is required. That level of vigor is needed sometimes to force change.", "Obviously wont since EA is the company releasing it. We all know they are the worst company in existence. Not sure why anyone gives them a dime. Haven’t played madden in years… I’d rather not play than give them $", "Stop pre-ordering games.", "Lol report your account? You okay? Seem a touch paranoid. I couldnt muster a second thought for you.", "I think you can pause in custom games, but anything in matchmaking queues has no pause function at all.", "Unfortunately I SUCK at these games, I would love to play them but in Call of Duty where they start off in the bus, I never get out of the bus.", "But you just did", "I loved it because the shotgun with slugs in it was basically a railgun.", "I disagree.", "I do agree, with the exception that BF1 is in my top 3 maybe my top 1 Battlefield game for me personally. BF5 was ok but they fucked it so hard with balancing back and forths.", "Oh shit", "it's a bush quote. of course not lol. I didn't remember what came AFTER the bush quote, hence my confusion. if that helps haha", "Laughed so hard, I cried. They got a better response than most of the movies I pay to see. Hilarious!! \n\nWould watch again!", "Yeah its been fun. The new rush mode makes the maps feel tiny, too. Even in Conquest I still feel surrounded by enemies ALL the time and that the maps aren't big enough sometimes.", "I knew I saw this style somewhere else that he ripped off.", "Whats your internet situation? Sucks that being online is an issue for you but that's like 99% of games nowadays.", "Yes. You just die instantly and respawn. You will get 1 deaths for it on scoreboard...", "Sure, but there's a big difference in how much data is available now and how accurately games can be designed to extract money from the consumer. In the arcade days the main solution was to just make games harder.", "How is not enjoying the game dishonest?", "OP here: I should have clarified. The game definitely had it's shining moments. What really shined was it's character building, and I really did enjoy the main story despite it's somewhat controversial endings. \n\nMost everything else however seemed awfully repetitive, and there was just an pervasive completeness about the game that was hard to ignore.", "> again\n\nYou might have missed this word? I didn't buy 2072 or whatever it's called now.", "> in which they were basically denying gamer toxicity altogether\n\nMan, fuck you. I was asking for examples, because you claimed \"more often than not.\".\n\n> which is just sooo bafflingly dishonest...\n\nYou're one to talk. Way to misrepresent my position and calling me dishonest based on a straw man argument.\n\nFuck off, you toxic fuck. You absolute piece of shit. Get the fuck off of reddit and never fucking return.", "> fixing bugs once in engine and be done with it.\n\nIf you find a bug, you write a test to confirm the bug, and then you fix it, Then you keep the test and re-run it occasionally, so the bug doesn't return. You also gain experiences, which teach you not to repeat such mistakes (and when you do, you'll already know how to fix it quickly).\n\nHow a company can mess up this bad, time after time, I really don't understand.", ">>The gaming community IS a bunch of spoiled children more often than not.\n\n>Can you provide examples?\n\nYes. Look:\n\n>Fuck off, you toxic fuck. You absolute piece of shit. Get the fuck off of reddit and never fucking return.\n\nLike, jesus christ is this how you behave in real life? You asked a disingenuous question and then got mad when I gave you legitimate answers and recognized the leading context in which it's asked. Lmao", "I just have spotty internet in a rural area so it can be difficult at times", "Damn, yeah I've got a friend I used to game with all the time who moved to a rural area. Best he can do is hope for Starlink to be available for him, or that local companies bring in Fibre, which they actually just did, after him being there like 6 years.", "It was so much fun! Until it wasn't. Also shotgunning the night winter map trees so the entire first run on defense was wide open.", "Aah, I see.", "Big facts. For the U.S. and Canada at least, probably a lot of other places too", "To be fair, I've played for a couple hours and have yet to experience any bugs. That said, it's missing some really basic features like being able to chat with the other team or choose what server and therefore what map you want to join.", "I hadn't seen the new mode yet. Was just thinking about getting on, I guess I'll play some rush!", "Well be ready for absolute chaos lol. Its the same amount of players all at one or two objectives. It's nuts.", "So then I'm absolutely going to use the sensor grenades. Using those in a tight space with lots of enemies is like printing money, it's crazy.", "yeah. If you play on Manifest, the riot shield is good fun, too. Good luck!", "I've seen what I believe to be honest criticism of the game by people that didn't enjoy it. But it's pretty obvious there's a hate train. Whether or not you agree that's justified, these things tend to attract a lot of people I'd classify as dishonest. Complainers. People that like to be agreed with. People that farm karma. Etc. The echo chamber starts to ring as just that. Echoes of what was once honest criticism that's now devoid of any original thought.", "Yes dear, sorry dear.", "Battleshit 2077", "Damn. I can't imagine having that kind of a budget for anything, let alone being able to raise so much for an undeveloped game. Haven't checked in on their development for a year now. Curious if they accomplished anything/any plans to release", "There are probably tons of players that have no problems as well.", "> pervasive completeness about the game that was hard to ignore.\n\nThis is why I still can't recommend it after finishing everything the game had to offer. The actual gameplay and exploration felt so empty, underwhelming, and final. Unless CDPR reworks the entire system from the ground up, there's not really anything you could do.\n\nSo it kinda makes sense that after a year of roadmaps and announcements the only thing we got is bugfixes and optimization.", ">development time\n\nThe actual development time was actually quite short. It was in small team pre-production for a long time, and was in full development for only a few years. This is why it was a bit of a rushed mess, especially on last gen consoles where they would have needed a full year more of optimization time (among other things).\n\nWhile it's the seminal open world game and deserves the respect people give it, I think you might have some strong rose tinted glasses about GTA 3 to make that comparison, and/or haven't played Cyberpunk that much.", "Very much in the same boat. I have strong criticisms, but stuff like NCPD behaviour, lack of populace simulation, and things like that don't even make it on the list. Just alerting the police was basically a reason to quick load for me, because that GTA stuff was meaningless to me. Was similarly disinterested in any kind of quasi-simulation found in Skyrim and its predecessors.\n\nAs a story and a gameplay experience it was amazing. There was so much high quality artistry put into the game, like the appearance of the city, the writing, music, voice acting etc. The base design of the combat/mission gameplay ranged from solid to excellent, though as you said there were some significant problems when it came to combat balancing, itemization and stuff like that.\n\nI would have definitely enjoyed it less had I not played it on a relatively powerful PC. The state the console versions were in at launch was unacceptable.", "I still play a lot of BFV. Have to say there are fewer cheaters now than there were before but I don't really recognize the comments about the cheaters being there at launch.\n\nBF1 on the other hand, you can't play that game anymore because of the cheaters..", "This is your own dumb fault for pre-ordering anything. Learn from this.", "Oh apologies, but did you or did you not say:\n\n> Part of the problem is simply standing by in a toxic environment, and letting shitheads go unchallenged. Just throwing up your hands and claiming \"pffft well I'M not part of the toxicity.\" isn't enough.\n\nSo take your disingenuous shit somewhere else, Mr \"I don't like it when people apply my own rules to me!:", "Yeah I'm not going to interact with you.", "Well now Mr. Perfect, you're just super fucking helpful aren't you?", "Aaaaaaahhhhh thenks", "> While it's the seminal open world game and deserves the respect people give it, I think you might have some strong rose tinted glasses about GTA 3 to make that comparison, and/or haven't played Cyberpunk that much.\n\nWhat aspect of the open world is better in Cyberpunk than GTA 3 other than the visuals/map? The cars in Cyberpunk on on freaking rails, it doesn't even have the most bare bones simple driving AI. The NPCs are non-persistent the moment they're out of your line of sight. The police spawn in right in front of you and can't pursue you. I'd love some examples of what open world aspects you think Cyberpunk did better?", "I was mostly thinking in terms of gameplay content and other meatier parts of open world design, as well as gameplay variety. Just roaming doing things is in a completely different realm in comparison.\n\nThose aggressive LoS loading/unloading effects are somewhat mitigated with more powerful hardware (but not eliminated). GTA 3 used similar tricks to stream assets/actors, as do most older and modern open world games. True persistence is not a luxury anyone can (or in my opinion should) realistically go for unless they scale down actor/crowd counts massively, e.g. like they do in Skyrim.\n\nPolice behaviour is (and especially was) janky in Cyberpunk, but GTA 3 did not have advanced AI in that sense either. It's pretty terrible all things considered, but I guess in a good comical way. It's not really something I care about though, your mileage may vary.\n\nI agree the driving AI is genuinely horrid, and I think this hurts some aspects of the game (including the police). Nowhere is it more apparent than the racing questline. This is probably why they stuck everything on rails, though I suspect also partially because of the computational limitations with consoles. I still wouldn't consider that a major factor in making the game a worse/better open world game.\n\nI think it needs to be stressed that I love GTA 3 and its siblings, I just think saying it's more advanced/fleshed out is not looking at things fairly.", "> Those aggressive LoS loading/unloading effects are somewhat mitigated with more powerful hardware (but not eliminated). GTA 3 used similar tricks to stream assets/actors, as do most older and modern open world games. True persistence is not a luxury anyone can (or in my opinion should) realistically go for unless they scale down actor/crowd counts massively, e.g. like they do in Skyrim.\n\nAll games use tricks to load assets. My point wasn't that GTA had complete persistence, just that it hid the process well to make a more immersive world. Cyberpunk doesn't keep track of what' right outside of your vision and loads completely different pedestrians when you spin in a circle. That's comical. \n\n>Police behaviour is (and especially was) janky in Cyberpunk, but GTA 3 did not have advanced AI in that sense either. It's pretty terrible all things considered, but I guess in a good comical way. It's not really something I care about though, your mileage may vary.\n\nGTA 3 might not have had \"advanced AI\", but the police follow you. They don't spawn right next to you. It's significantly more fleshed out than Cyberpunk.\n\n>I agree the driving AI is genuinely horrid, and I think this hurts some aspects of the game (including the police). Nowhere is it more apparent than the racing questline. This is probably why they stuck everything on rails, though I suspect also partially because of the computational limitations with consoles. I still wouldn't consider that a major factor in making the game a worse/better open world game.\n\nYou wouldn't consider that a major factor? What WOULD be a major factor if not interaction with vehicles? They have literally zero AI for driving in the game. None. A car follows a path and stops if something is in the way. That's it.", "how is anyone still surprised that the trailers are misleading after so many freaking decades of this shit?", "Well, 'bullet into opponent mean opponent die' is like the core mechanics of the game. If they can't even get that bit right, then the game is completely broken.", ":'<", "Sure but you're still saying that him not saying anything proves that the game is bad / overly bugged which is obviously nonsense. You can make any game look bad because every game has bugs. Dunkey could've selected highlights to make the game look awesome.\n\nThe game can still be bad but that has nothing to with how Dunkey edits his videos. It sounds like you're great at deciphering the message of the video (\"this game is bugged\") but you're for some reason taking that message as truth.", "\"It has a little something for everyone.\"", "Yes I am, you're welcome.", "You're looking way too into this. My point above stands, many seem to agree.", "Oh yeah I forgot to take the opinion of redditors into account. That's actually really stupid of me because the redditors are the known and accepted arbiters of truth. I concede, for you have many upvotes. I'll be expecting a montage of my failure that will be edited in a way to proof once and for all that I should shut up.\n\nYour point would stand if you had any rebuttal other than claiming your points stands. [It turns out that many people agreeing with something doesn't make it true either.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum) And what did the many agree with? Your reasoning or your opinion?", "Don't buy new games within the first few months of release. Wait for them to release a big content patch/bug fix update and it's suddenly half price for a much better game. \n\nUse promos to get game passes for $1 for a month and try before you buy. Or just play through the ~20 hours of content in the free month and move on with your life.", "Lmfao when they realize they can park the hovercraft upside down on the side of the building and use it as some sort of air support. I'm dying\n\nhttps://youtu.be/LZNLpDzFVpE?t=602", "EA sports presents battlefield", "I see they got you too.", "[I like the look on this streamer's face when he finds out they can climb skyscrapers](https://youtu.be/u4XnXMlT9FU?t=34)", "Correction my guy. \n\n\nDevelopers have the talent. An often missed issue is Publishers. \n\n\nWhen Son Entertainment is the publisher, they are looking to make their platform a good gaming environment to entice more and more people. \n\n\nWhen EA or Activitsion are the publisher, they have no platform they are trying to endear you to. They just want as much of your money as possible. \n\n\nA good example is Rockstar. Rockstar the company get's too much flak. In reality, It's TakeTwo being the greedy pigs. We know Rockstar can make amazing games.", "hahahahah that is gold", "You just ignored what I wrote.\n\nYou are ignoring developer vs publisher.\n\nThere are many passionate and skilled developers. Developers are the people who actually make the game. Code it, make assets for it, etc.\n\nDevelopers by en large are not the ones who decide to put micro transactions in games.\n\nEdit: my example was rockstar, clearly a development studio that can make great games. Red Dead 2 being a good example. It's their publisher that asks for micro transactions.", "I didn't deny that there are developers. I made the claim that more than just Sony's first party devs have skill and passion.", ">Not necessarily even true\n\nWhat I am saying is true though. It's true that there are other developers that Sony's first party developers that have passion and a high degree of skill in regards to game development.\n\nWhat I am saying is very simple.\n\nI didn't ignore your previous comment. You literally ignored mine, and apparently your own. It is necessarily true, unless you honestly believe only Sony's first party studios have passion and skill.\n\nAll that is required for my statement to be true is for one development studio to exist that isn't under Sony that has skill and passion. \n\n\nEdit: \n\n\nAnd ill just drop the comment I initially replied to before you edit it. \n\n\n>Thank you, whenever people say gaming is a mess these days I'm like you must be forgetting PlayStation first party studios because their games are absolutely amazing. As for why other companies don't copy their success is because it takes an amount of skill and passion other companies don't possess because the only thing on their minds is greed and microtransactions...", "Question.\n\nDo you think the developers for Sony themselves are pushing back against Sony that want to put in Microtransactions?\n\nDo you think it's a coincidence that first party Sony games are not full of MTX?\n\nAll I have said here is that it's the publishers, not the developers that push for MTX. There may be some dev studios that want them, but generally developers are salaried people. They go to work, open up their work flow, put a lot of effort into the art that they like.\n\nIt's publishers that have the separation from game development and have more corporate interests than the developers themselves.\n\nIn some instances like with CD Projekt Red they are both the publisher and the developer.\n\nMy evidence is that most development positions are not commission-based. It's just a publisher saying implement X, Y and Z.\n\nA publisher is above a developer. If a confirmed developer comes out and complains then that specific developer is most likely getting sidelined or fired depending on which country they are from.\n\nIt's self evident in regards to what I am saying. TakeTwo takes people to court for mods that may make them lose money, not Rockstar.\n\nDice put LOADS of effort into the Frostbite game engine, and their games in general. Then, EA acquired them and suddenly you are able to purchase weapons and vehicle upgrades without having to unlock them.\n\nGameFreak don't pursue all the Pokemon fan games, it's Nintendo.\n\nLatest example where you can actually kinda see it without anyone specifically saying. Halo Infinite. A development log said that customisation would be extensive and a lot is free on day one. Game comes out... a lot of it is locked behind money. I wonder if it was 343 or Microsoft that pushed for that considering 343 already said they wouldn't do what they ended up doing. \n\n\nOr you can go to games like call of duty, do you think Infinity Ward called Activision one day and asked about introducing a season pass? Or when activision patented a system to match players with less skins against players with more skins in order to make them want skins themselves... do you think that was suggested by Infinity Ward, Treyarch or Sledghammer? \n\n\nDo you remember when a publisher came out and said that players should pay more? I don't remember a development studio doing that. \|", "Then you have it backwards. \n\n\nMTX's in their modern form originated from Gacha mobile games which had publishers push for heavy monetization. The games started as a money making idea, and then a development team is requested to build said game with an IP that a publisher has a license for. \n\n\nThen these gacha principles started to bleed into console/pc games. \n\n\nThe first AAA gacha that showed other publishers the money-making potential was Fifa's second iteration of Ultimate Team. \n\n\nThe first Fifa ultimate team was not a cash shop nightmare with points being bought left and right for packs. It was just a DLC. EA the publisher are the ones who pushed for a cash shop in the next game. Obviously, we cannot KNOW this, but we do know that EA's CEO has been rewarded for the revenue of the game over and over again. The development team themselves... not so much. \n\n\nThen it started to bleed to other AAA Games.", "That's great that it suits you. I also have a full-time job and a kid with similar time constraints, so it would \"suit me\" in that regard too, but my point was I didn't purchase the game based on principal.\n\nPersonally I like the fact that I can pause a campaign and get up to help with my kid at a moment's notice. It also allows me to experience the game in a single-player environment during those time constraints and feel like I'm getting guaranteed content hours for the money I'm paying. After the kid is asleep, I can get into a multiplayer session without worrying about having to randomly go AFK or get kicked.\n\nBut you do recognize the fact they are objectively trying to get away with giving us less product for the same amount of money, right? A multi-player only Battlefield installment should not be sold for the same price as one with a full-fledged single player campaign included, simple as that. They literally just cut out of piece of the game that's always existed, and tried to pretend like it wasn't worth any value. \n\nThis is why I'm sad that people are okay with it. I am not trying to offend or anything like that, but if we as paying customers are just okay with letting them get away with it, they are going to continue to get away with it.", "I Googled it and you're simply wrong.\n\nhttps://rating-system.fandom.com/wiki/ESRB_Mature_17%2B\n\nEdit: Are you actually confusing \"17+\" with \"NC-17\"?\n\nBecause that is not the same as \"17+\"." ]	1,815	videos	Battlefield 2077
https://youtu.be/BBoyP9CNjq0	/r/videos/comments/qz49tq/jets_taking_off_and_landing_on_an_aircraft_carrier/	[ "Credit to [Commander UK Carrier Strike Group](https://twitter.com/smrmoorhouse/status/1462100126953058307?t=1JLJNlzKpRmqYLaptE_WYw&amp;s=19) via NavyLookout\n\n7 British and 10 USMC F-35Bs operating from HMS Queen Elizabeth during her first operational deployment, CSG21.\n\nOne of the British F-35Bs crashed on take off on Wednesday whilst operating in the Mediterranean. The cause is still under investigation whilst aircraft recovery is underway.", "What's the purpose of the take-off ramp? Wouldn't it increase the chances of stalling?", "The Queen Elizabeth class carriers do not have catapults or arresting wires like US carriers. They are designed for V/STOL (Vertical / Short Take Off and Landing) aircraft like the F-35.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Queen_Elizabeth_(R08)", "Could it be the massive air brake they appear to have deployed while trying to take off? I mean, I get it, that's the part that opens up so they can do VTOL, but why the flying family blog is it deployed when catapulting off an aircraft carrier?", "That's the cover for the lift fan, essential for the short take off, as you can see the engine nozzle has rotated.", "I would assume the ram air effect would increase the output of the lift fan - that cover being open and facing the way it is likely increases lift.\n\nEdit: Just noticed you asked \"why ...is it deployed when catapulting?\" - as u/ducation points out, no catapult involved here.", "Theres no catapult on this boat, theyre doing short take off configuration. You should submit your redesign proposal to lockheed, obviously no one there could figure it out.", "Wut. I didn't know they could hover like that to land?? It looks fake lol (I know it isn't just wow)", "Yeah I still had this perception of WW2 like carriers. Wild stuff.", "You should end the memo to the engineers who designed the carrier.", "That'll teach 'em.", "Mmmm you gotta love a good STOVL", "I missed the engine nozzle rotation. Thank you for a succinct answer!", "Imagine every jet taking off of that carrier just stalling and plumbing down into the depths of the ocean.", "I have to warn them now!!" ]	15	videos	Jets taking off and landing on an aircraft carrier
https://youtu.be/XVAx57Ffxvg	/r/videos/comments/qz4wnb/the_darkside_of_bitcoin_in_el_salvador_full/	[ "i mean anyone who has the faintest idea of how shit actually is in El Salvador would understand that switching to bitcoin is very questionable for a country with that level of development and crime", "Yeah, I feel sorry for the people there. It seems like their dictator has found a money printing scheme and is disguising it as Bitcoin to get away with it. All the other countries there have people in power that can print money.\n\nEl Salvador has done well by being mainly on the dollar. Those people did not get hit by inflation.\n\nNow El Salvador is trying to have their own currency backed by Bitcoin. \n\nEventually whatever the balance in those chivo app shows will be sold on the black markets for a lot less then it shows.\n\n5 years from now if the app say you have 100 dollars, somebody might buy your balance for 10 REAL DOLLARS.\n\nPoor people. They were doing so well and now their new dicator is about to fuck them all over really really hard.\n\nNot only that but now the IMF does not want to give them any real money anymore. \n\nSo hard times are coming for them. This Bukele guy is horrible.", "amazing", "switching to bitcoin is a dumbass decision for any country", "Is he new? I thought hes been in power for some time...", "Im a big fan of bitcoin and crypto in general...but this rollout was questionable and poorly executed", "Do they have to use chivo though? They could use any lightning app or even create their own node right? If they are using the same lightning app as me in Europe then their holdings would be as protected from their government as my holdings are protected from their government. Also if they have enough BTC to be life changing they can store it off chain. How would their government access that?", "Better than USD. You can't run your economy on tokens that another country prints out of thin air every year. At least Bitcoin has a fixed supply.", "They were already using USD and the 5% inflation was extremely stable .\n\nThe Bitcoin tokens system they use now fluctuates more in one day than USD does in a year.", "a fixed supply is a bad thing lol. Do you really think the US should have the same amount of dollars as it did 50 years ago when the population was halved?", "El Salvadorans get to use/trade bitcoin without being penalized by any capital gains taxes.\n\nSounds pretty sweet to me.\n\nIm jealous actually.", ">At least Bitcoin has a fixed supply\n\nAnd most of that fixed supply is owned by whales who are potentially constantly manipulating the market. One Elon Musk tweet and your bank account shrivels lol", "The problem with using LN in retail is that the retailers need to first get the same amount of capital as they are trying to receive unless they themselves can use LN to buy stuff with they need for their business. With LN in and out needs to be perfectly balanced. Usually retail is more in and out because they want to make a profit.\n\nSo that means they run out of inbound capacity eventually.\n\nAnother problem is that you need 3 BTC tx per LN channel and BTC has code that caps the amount of tx to 400 000 tx a day.\n\nWhen blocks are full, which happens multiple times a year ... you have to outbid everybody else on every tx or your tx does not happen.", "You should move there. Help the people with your knowledge.", "That’s just proof that Bitcoin is not regulated or a controlled asset and it works like gold did in the past, yes even in America until the US government realized that’s not a good method to finance unjustified wars …\n\nand if you think dollar is stable, you don’t understand how the fiat money system works.\n\nif people would exchange BTC every day with dollar, it would look unstable, but the reality is BTC since the release in el salvador only won in value and it would be the perfect asset for a free market like Adam Smith wanted.\n\nif you guys didn’t realized, since the release of BTC you always hear some negativity from the press against BTC and shortly after that big players join the asset. fiat money is used for dubious transactions all the time and people hide it with offshore companies, smart people always knew to hide their tracks", "that’s not how the economy works … if you think like that, you didn’t even got the basics right", "there’s far more reasons for monetary policy than just that, but it’s one of the reasons we are increasing USD. I also have a degree in economics lmao", "in a short time, yes. but on a long term it doesn’t matter …", "doesn’t mean anything if you don’t understand even the basics behind it, 1792 gold was the legal tender in the united states of America with similar properties like BTC … you can tell everyone why they changed it. and by the way, the moment other countries are going to buy oil in other currencies, the stability of dollar will end, a similar thing was happening with sadams exchange of oil against euro", "this guy just post negative videos about BTC since the existing of his channel, that’s almost all his channel is about it, this is not an objective view on the topic \n\nedit: op just used multiple accounts to push his agenda here to downplay BTC, he is invested in BCH and he even tried to silence me with some small amount of BCH. I just post all of it to the reddit admins, let’s all hope he will get banned for it\n\nI don’t have anything against BCH but people like OP are the kind of scammers we don’t need in the crypto community", "you realize that in economics anyone who thinks we should go back to the gold standard is laughed out of the room right.", "Maybe BTC is very negative.", "because the card is already outplayed, going back now would be stupid, some other countries hold even more gold than the united states of america", "maybe he isn’t very smart? and has a personal agenda!", "lmao, and bitcoin is the solution. the libertarian paradise", "100% \n\nhttps://youtu.be/0zcU63mEuFw", "just own the fact that it's a speculative asset people want to go up. It's immensely eye rolling when it is played off as this revolution. 99% of the problems bitcoin attempts to address would be better resolved by a myriad of other policies", "can you proof your statement? because it’s not a fact, it’s an opinion", "Obviously, we are both talking about our opinions and interpretations of modern economic events lmao. \n\nAny academic or accurate look at many of the modern problems society faces - poverty, crime, inequality, etc, are easily and historically traceable to various causes. The concentration of capital ownership, the loss of collective labor power, the rise of radical individualism, the worship of the free market, etc. There are various historical solutions that have proved effective at improving peoples' material lives over and over again throughout history. \n\nThe idea that the smoking gun to these problems, as it is often portrayed, is the digitalization and \"decentralization\" of currency, just shifts the problem to a new medium of exchange, rather than actually addressing anything useful at all. \n\nI don't mind anyone owning crypto. Go ahead, make the money. But don't tell me it is anything beyond a way to make a speculative asset soar for those who have enough expendable income to spend on it. Bitcoin was hailed as a currency, yet it's current constraints in both time-of-transaction and enormous energy usage clearly make the dollar more convenient as an actual currency.", ">Yeah, I feel sorry for the people there. It seems like their dictator has found a money printing scheme and is disguising it as Bitcoin to get away with it. All the other countries there have people in power that can print money.\n\nDoes this mean we should feel sorry for Americans as well?", "you see that points out that you didn’t have done any research for yourself … you just repeat what you heard without looking up if that’s even true.\n\nBTC doesn’t need more energy than fiat money, it actually uses way less energy or do you think all your digital banking system works without energy spending at all? did you ever hear something about lightning network? I guess not at all\n\ndude I know you are not going to accept it, you didn’t have done enough research at all and you are on denial and don’t see the whole topic objectively.", "none of what you are saying makes sense lol. Of course fiat money uses more energy, it’s the CURRENCY THE WORLD USES. Bitcoin does jack shit right now except act as a speculative asset and uses up more energy than entire countries lmao", "You know Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Tim Cook, ... and many more people have BTC. You can use it, to buy products from Microsoft, Steam, McDonalds, Starbucks and many more companies. It is digital money just wihtout any regulation, so you can buy stuff with it. You can exchange it against other goods, ... but I guess you live behind the moon and one day when you realize it, some people like you need time to process what's going on around them.\n\nJust watch this and see how stupid your argument is.\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ6FLh7z40U", "all those people suck and have no interest in improving the lives of average people", "USA taxes its citizens with citizenship based world wide taxation.\n\nSucks for me and all Americans that live abroad. \n\nCapital gains taxes don’t qualify for any sort of tax credit or anything. USA will tax me on Bitcoin even if I permanently live in El Salvador.", "5% inflation is extremely stable? Are you even hearing yourself? Inflation is no so bad when you government generates an extra 5% every year and spends it on funding government workers and government projects but when a foreign government inflates the supply of your reserves by 5% and doesn't give you any of the newly minted money you are having 5% of your reserve wealth taken away every year.", "How can anyone think the dollar is stable. It is designed to be unstable in one direction only... down.\n\n[People are so uneducated and think they know it all](https://imgur.com/yMEbbjq.jpg)\n\nAlso I agree people believe anything they feed them. How many of the panama papers scandals where 100s of billions of tax fraud were uncovered mentioned the word Bitcoin? None of them. Almost all crime in the world is paid for by fiat currencies like the dollar.", "you just made an account to shit post on the same topics, how embarrassing wow\n\nall you care about is BCH, that’s your whole agenda dude and you are obsessed about it like a religion, you don’t get it and just waste your time and spread negativity.", "An inflationary supply is not bad if you trust the people inflating the currency and if you benefit from how they spend the new currency. If you are living in US most of newly created USDs are going to be spent around you. Some of that may trickle down to your business or to the business you work at. Some of that may be paid to you indirectly by reducing the taxes you need to pay to cover your fair share of government spending, some of it may be directly paid out to you as a pay rise if you are a government worker. Now if you live in Nigeria and you hold $5,000 under your mattress to open a new business one day and the US banking sector generates a new 5%-10% supply of USD each year you are paying $250 to $500 per year towards funding the US economy. This is why I said BTC is better than USD as a reserve for a foreign government.", "you are absolutely right, this people have an agenda here, to downplay BTC for their own personal reasons (shitcoin, markt manipulation, …) it’s not based on real facts or science or they don’t know anything about it and just share the bullshit they heard somewhere", "The biggest whale we know is Satoshi who owns around 1 million coins. That is 5% of the whole supply. If he dumps all of his coins the BTC price will crash right? Now what? He can't dump again so I would buy cheap while I can. With USD the US banks generate 5-10% new USD each year and if they dump all that cash who cares? They can generate another 5-10% next year and another next year and another next year... That is what is actually happening. How is BTC worse?", "What about using other LN custodial services from other countries that the government can not control? They don't have to use Chivo at all. Also on chain transactions are expensive but they can use custodial LN for small payments and then move any savings onto the Bitcoin chain. All LN custodial services allow you to withdraw to on chain. Businesses could accept LN payments and when they have enough money they could deposit it onto the first layer of Bitcoin for a fee just like how businesses save cash in a safe and deposit it to a bank at the end of the day or week. That way if the government does try to scam anyone they can only take what people have in their pockets not their entire savings. I think people should be educated on how to keep their BTC safe rather than just be scared away. If done right BTC is easily one of the hardest things to have stollen away from you. If you are really hardcore and trust yourself to remember 12 words you could even store your entire net worth in your brain with Bitcoin and nobody can take it from you without you giving it up.", "pathetic fool you are so embarrassing, I feel sorry for people like you. you waste your energy to spread negative bullshit. how about you instead invest your time on your own education and health idiot. I guess you don’t even understand the basics of reddit and people on the BCH should feel ashamed about people like you.\n\nI’m out of this discussion!!!\n\nPS: I have screenshots about this conversation and your account, I send them to a reddit admin.", "moderate inflation is a good thing as it encourages spending. The target is around 2%", "It encourages spending when there is no other alternative. Also to rephrase what you said \"The US banking sector taking 2% of everyones money in El Salvador is good for El Salvador because it encourages them to spend their money quicker\".", "yes, and 99% of economists would agree. also that’s not how the math works", "Unfortunately these things are not taught to people. I had to go to university to study Finance and only in my 3rd year did we really start discussing how money is generated and what a con it really is.", "Care to explain?", "do i care to explain the position that the largely the entire economic community holds concerning monetary policy?", "Bitcoin has been hijacked by the powers that be. They put a line of code in there that limits the network to 400 000 tx a day. And now they are going to turn El Salvador in a cautionary tale \"If you use Bitcoin instead of the US dollar you will get poor\"", "I have been around since before the Bitcoin cash split. Am not buying the idea that we should not have blockchain limits and I don't think any currency has come up with a solution to the problem yet. If a solution comes up I will back another fork to implement it and if the users want the feature it will quickly become the dominant Bitcoin fork. I also don't think using USD will make you poor the real problem is holding USD which many people around the world do. I use FIAT for transactions I just would never hold it.", "About how the math is different from what I said.", "> Im not buying the idea that we should not have blockchain limits\n\nYes we should have them, we should have soft limits set by miners and hard limits set by consensus.\n\nAnd also we should compress the blocks down because then you can send a 1 GB block with 5 kb of data.\n\nThere are many more optimizations like this that have been invented between 2013 and 2021. Bitcoin Core only implemented one of them, Schorr signatures. These signatures are a tiny bit smaller, you can now make a default 1 input 2 output utox with 172 bytes instead of 192 bytes.\n\nBitcoin Cash has implemented all possible optimizations we though of so far, and then did a stress test where we watched the orphan rates of the miners.\n\nTurns out we can get up to 20 MB blocks before orphan rates change.\n\nThis means that technically there is no reason for Bitcoin not to process 20 x 400 000 tx a day. 8 million tx.\n\nIt's not technical. It's political. The main Bitcoin Core developers work for a company called Blockstream which was funded by the same VC's that funded mastercard and Visa. \n\nTwo businesses with a model that could be made completely obsolete by Bitcoin.\n\nTrow in some Tether in the mix there to reward the coins that have the least utility with a high (fake) price and now you understand the current market. \n\nSatoshi his security model was unlimited tx with limited fee.\n\nLimited tx with unlimited fee does not work and eventually leads to a period without hashrate growth. During that period attackers can out produce the miners, create more asics, find more power and then 51% attack the network.\n\nWith the model that Satoshi invented, this is not possible.", "I still have my BCH from the fork and even tripled my holdings because it was so cheap but I believe if tomorrow we forked again and copy pasted everything that Bitcoin Cash has done onto Bitcoin, Bitcoin would still be the dominant chain. I used to frequent /r/btc but the fork has become irrelevant. The sub is honestly delusional at this point. I gave up on the whole fork project when everyone was trying to convince me that BCH was more eco friendly as if I don't know that the vast majority of hashing power is dependent on the reward value and coin price. The BCH community is just full of bag holding scammers at this point but we will see. If it ever flips I have more BCH than BTC but I honestly don't think it will ever happen.", "Our objective is not to have BCH go up in price.\n\nOur objective is to make it work as money.\n\nBCH does not work as money if it keeps going up because then nobody wants to buy anything with.\n\nBitcoin Core can be digital gold.\n\nBitcoin Cash will try to become the money of the people for the people by the people.\n\nI use Bitcoin Cash to pay my people with. I bill people in Bitcoin Cash. I have an incoming flow of Bitcoin Cash and an outgoing flow of Bitcoin Cash. I save a little and put that on the side.\n\nThis is why it's valuable to me. not the price going up, but how easy it is to pay anybody in the world instantly at a fee price under 1 cent.\n\nThe people in El Salvador need both.\n\nBitcoin Core as their savings accounts to hedge against inflation. Bitcoin Cash as their checking's account, to use as daily spending money.", "Fair, in the few cases where I had to pay someone online and didn't want to use my debit/credit card I paid using BCH and just rebought the same amount back again although LN would have done the job in those cases too.", "That is an excellent usage of the tools you have to your disposal. Cheap payment and then back in to what you believe keeps your purchasing power the most. However I believe that in the long term creating closed economic loops where BCH is circulating and does not flow through exchanges any more will create a more sustainable and stable system then having something that tries to emulate gold where it's a store of value not trying to have any utility. I do not believe Bitcoin Core will be able to remain speculation driven for the next 10, 20 years. Speculators are going to want to take profit and then put their profit in to something more stable.\n\nBitcoin Core it's speculation will cause periods of hashrate flatlining and even hashrate decline. This opens 51% attack opportunities and it will be hard to find the consensus to defend against them. On the other hand it's easy to attack Bitcoin Cash right now but also easy to defend because of how much consensus the BCH community has. \n\nWe will see what the future brings. As long as we manage to keep extracting value from the old financial system we will both do mightily fine.", "hahaha https://twitter.com/bitcoinmagazine/status/1460701940615204870?s=21" ]	62	videos	The Darkside of Bitcoin in El Salvador (Full Documentary)
https://youtu.be/yXd8I6d1GR8	/r/videos/comments/qz55wn/my_rescue_crayfish_pinchy_117/	[ "do you know what species? some are invasive in certain areas, so it would be interesting to see what species it is.", "I don’t know a whole lot about crayfish species, but I believe it is a Signal crayfish, which as far as I’m aware are native to the area. Caught him in the south west of B.C. Canada.", "I love the name!", "[\"Pinchy would have wanted it this way.\"](https://youtu.be/3FhVvNGsJV8)", "Crayfish are such cool little pets.", "Not trying to be a dick but is it really a rescue if you just took him from his natural habitat?", "Not really I suppose, was more of tongue in cheek title. But when I found him he was about 1/4 the size and was missing a claw.", "[CITIZEN SNIPS!](https://youtu.be/vlw30QeoDeU?t=53) - Missed naming opportunity." ]	8	videos	My rescue Crayfish, Pinchy. [1:17]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qz5c3s/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qz5c3s/deleted_by_user/	[ "That was cool to watch, but you crashed @ 5000 feet?", "When the airfield is at 5,000 above sea level, yep.", "It was from overstress pulling of the dive in this case, not an impact", "Was just about to try this myself but after not playing for a while there's a freakin 90GB update, I'm gonna go out and get a few things done and try later lol\n\nEdit: And it's pretty good fun, nice", "Just wondering, is there like an ‘arcade mode’ to this game? Or do you have to know what each switch and button does in the cockpit to play?", "Why would you want that? You’ve never daydreamed of jumping in the cockpit of a modern aircraft and seeing if you can get her to fly as a totally normal, untrained person?\n\nI think that would be hella fun to roleplay that way. Just hitting switches and toggles trying to get the engines to start through trial and error? Sounds kinda fun to me.", "Same reason when you boot up gran tourismo and don’t have to flick all the switches and turn the electrics on and the fuel pump on before going out on track.\n\nI want to put the throttle into takeoff thrust and get going. Give me some controls like flaps and gears sure, but I don’t want to bust the manual out on a 787 to even get off the runway.", "We’re gonna gatekeep flight simulators now?", "Nice to see that the guy that designed the blue screen of death got a job working on the Flight Simulator, what an anticlimatic ending.", "Yes there are realism settings, you do not need to do it like in the video. You can load in, throttle up and take off without any setup.", "both are fun\n\nsometimes it's fun to experiment and mess around with a $60m dollar toy\n\nafter getting a handful of lessons into my private pilots license, doing actual preflight checks isn't something I really want to do for fun anymore. Hitting go and flying around is fun too", "Absolutely. You can go easy mode or realistic. Most of the controls have difficulty settings from the g-effects to the stalls to airframe damage. You can even set how often mechanical failures happen. \n\nHell, you can go realistic mode and then to start the engines you can follow a built in checklist, or just hit the key combo for \"engine start\" and it's all done for you. It's as simple or as complex as you want at that time.", "That's been a long-standing ideal of the Microsoft Flight Simulators. They long ago said, \"no weapons, no interesting crashes.\" They want to be about the flying, not the explosions. \n\n(that said, they did release a very good Combat Flight Simulator years back, which was a WW2 Pacific Theater combat sim)", "You can just hit CTRL-E to the start the engine if you don't want to cold start. Or just start on the active runway and the engine will already be running.", "What a terrible video to showcase MSFS. He isn't even using the real world satellite generated terrain. Someone tell him that his internet isn't connected to the sim correctly.", "Looks like they were just asking because they felt it would be interesting. Calling it gatekeeping seems stupid.", "Glad you could get that fixed. The real time satellite data is a core component of the sim. You'd really be missing out on the full experience without it. Enjoy.", "If the sim ever fails to detect an internet connection, or too slow of a connection, it will turn off the real time satellite graphics and use the generic graphics instead. It will stay that way until it's reset to \"on\" by the user. I bet there's a lot of people out there with the same issue who never noticed.", "How do you turn it on? What section in the settings do you go?", "In General Settings, in the Data section, there should be an option for Bing Data.", "thanks will look for it. wonder if it will make my game look better.", "I thought he would break the sound barrier... but nope.\n\nIt is a real disappointment that Flight Simulator doesn't have crashes.", "If you like flicking switches, give the A-10C in DCS World a try. Easily the deepest systems modeling that I've come across.", "ah yes. Knots. Fucking war thunder", "I dont see how a system derived from trailing a knotted rope behind a sailing vessel to measure speed isnt perfectly acceptable for mach capable aircraft.", "This is the kind of game that you sell a VR system with lol", "It's off by default as I recall.", "Well, since distance is measured in nautical miles in aircraft, yes, it is.", "They did break the sound barrier. At about 6:30 they are doing 650 knots at 22000 feet where the speed of sound is about 600 knots. And also during the dive before they crash.", "The lack of realistic damage model and crash physics makes this game a \"no buy\" for me.", "I was hoping this would have been a AirForceProud video. Guy makes great flight sim content. His best of content usually sends me down a rabbit hole.", "Microsoft's first Combat Flight Simulator was set in the European theater, CFS2 was in the Pacific", "I didn't notice any sonic boom or change in audio to show that ingame though.", "The funny thing is that the Microsoft Flight Simulator version of the Hornet is seen as \"arcade\" mode by the community. The DCS version of the Hornet is insane as it nearly replicates every single system of the real life Hornet to a T. The MSFS version is less tedious in the sense that is is SOOO much easier to fly and enjoy, while the DCS version is about as close to the actual combat variant as you can get.", "OP you might wanna check out Digital Combat Simulator. It's like MSFS to the next level", "You can't hear it when you're with the plane. The sonic boom is what you hear when the sound wave goes past you. If you're travelling with the wave, there is no boom. It's kind of like the wake of a boat.\n\nedit: you can kind of hear the effect when he's panning around outside the plane, going in and out of the 'wake'", "But doesn't it go more silent in the plane when you break the sound barrier? Because you're moving faster than the sound.", "No", "Ah ha. TIL.\n\nGuess I need to watch a movie about Chuck Yeager or something.", "I played the hell out of CFS3 and IL2", "Check out DCS, it has a nice damage model. IL2 has an even better crash damage model but it isn't as nice looking as DCS.", "Nice, like other fighter jets; looks like a UFC fighter in hand cuffs and legs cuffs.", "Did that come across as gatekeeping? I was wondering why I had 10 downvotes for thinking the game could be fun for people completely unfamiliar with aircraft.\n\nWeird.", "Um…no? I’ve never played and have no idea how to play. How and why would I be gatekeeping?", "You criticize how one enjoys something as if they can only enjoy it the way you think it should. That’s what gatekeeping is.", "Better to get it direct from Eagle Dynamics as opposed to Steam. Still free... Until you drop over $1000 on HOTAS and head tracking hardware, then the modules (planes) are $60+.", "And if I am in sim mode, can I just switch off one of the hundred buttons in the cockpit midflight to see what happens?", "That is correct.", "because of how latitude and longitude are measured. \n\nseconds of longitude/lat= 1 nautical mile.", "Yeah I took the dive and haven't looked back lol", "Literally the opposite of what I was doing. Reading comprehension.", "Laughs in DCS", "Well judging from the downvotes you’re getting to your reply, you might be wrong.", "Knots take into account the curvature of the Earth as opposed to traveling in a perfectly straight line. So, actually better for things like planes. More precise unit of measuring speed.", "Yep" ]	56	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSO6ZbKciE	/r/videos/comments/qz5xvj/bro_builds_shopping_app_for_his_neighborhood_ends/	[ "FYI, this post is part of a coordinated site-wide spam campaign that's been going on for months as evidenced by the use of the same exact title (slightly modified here after many have been deleted in the last few days), only changing the location, on posts all over Reddit by numerous users, despite the title not being from the article: /search?q=%22a+free+alternative+to+amazon%22+\n\nAnd those are the ones that weren't deleted, typically the posts are deleted after a few days; I've seen this same post in r/Oklahoma multiple times.\n\nThis user also posted \"test\" to r/shadowban 13 hours ago, almost exactly when another of the spammers [did as well](https://old.reddit.com/r/ShadowBan/comments/qyo886/test/) (now deleted after i posted this to one of this user's previous spam posts):, if you look at my post history you'll see that other user has been posting this same thing for days, multiple times a day, and deleting it. I'm sure it's a coincidence that two random users post the same article and test their accounts almost simultaneously (after multiple other of the accounts have been suspended).\n\nUsing Google to search instead of Reddit's crappy search shows the true scale of the spam campaign: https://www.google.com/search?q=\"from+jeff+bezos+to+local+stores\"+reddit\n\nI certainly wouldn't trust any browser extension that uses spam tactics like this.\n\nI suggest both reporting this as spam in this sub, and going to reddit.com/report and reporting u/MichikoQuinlan for spam sitewide as well.", "/u/MichikoQuinlan is a spam bot. It spams content about Sook, an Amazon alternative. Within 24 hours it deletes the posts so you can't tell.\n\nIt's been doing it off and on for at least a year. I'm reporting every post it makes until it's banned or it stops posting.\n\n[Example 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ql7suc/an_amateur_programmers_free_solution_to_amazon/)\n\n[Example 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/pasadena/comments/qlh4wt/a_free_alternative_to_amazon_for_shopping/)\n\n[Example 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/StPetersburgFL/comments/qmcs4s/to_help_small_businesses_around_st_petersburg/)\n\n[Example 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/GetMotivated/comments/qnrx60/article_over_30_million_has_been_redirected_from/)\n\n[Example 5](https://www.reddit.com/r/GetMotivated/comments/qohjyb/article_a_students_free_neighborhood_shopping_app/)\n\n[Example 6](https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyCanadian/comments/qplfid/a_free_canadianbuilt_amazon_alternative_for_local/)\n\n[Example 7](https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/qtd2f7/a_small_business_saturday_app_in_texas_has/)\n\n[Example 8](https://www.reddit.com/r/Detroit/comments/qtyu67/a_small_business_saturday_app_in_detroit_has/)\n\n[Example 9](https://www.reddit.com/r/orangecounty/comments/qu65xh/a_small_business_saturday_app_in_orange_county/)\n\n[Example 10](https://www.reddit.com/r/Maine/comments/quo8es/a_small_business_saturday_app_in_maine_has/)\n\n[Example 11](https://www.reddit.com/r/astoria/comments/qw61g7/a_small_business_saturday_app_in_queens_has/)\n\n[Example 12](https://www.reddit.com/r/happy/comments/qyb89x/an_amateur_programmer_built_a_free_localshopping/)\n\n[Example 13](https://www.reddit.com/r/UTAustin/comments/qyogwl/to_help_small_businesses_around_the_university_of/)\n\nMods and Reddit Admins, please ban this bot!\n\nPre-Edit: And right on cue, it deleted the post. I'll see you guys on its next spamming attempt.", "I see I'm not the only one playing whack-a-mole with these spammers. Another one is u/passionatepersona4. Two others have been suspended this week. Although I don't think they are bots; I think there are people behind these accounts.", "Account now suspended! Now to get u/passionatepersona4 suspended.", "I'll add it to my list.\n\nIt was using the Michiko account recently but prior to that it was using /u/AntonettaGrubbs but it's already banned. I imagine we will see new accounts pop up soon doing the same thing.", "The two I kept seeing and reporting (now suspended) were: \nu/Machine-Fresh\nu/Typical_rub373" ]	6	videos	Bro builds shopping app for his neighborhood. Ends up redirecting $30 million from Amazon to small biz across the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c97vzkoG3Q	/r/videos/comments/qz6cnp/yucko_the_clown/	[ "before everyone was a pussy", "rather be a pussy than a dick", "so u like to get fucked?", "I don't find this funny, and not even because of the non PC angle, he's like a gross Triumph.", "Yea but probably wouldn’t feel much with you.", "do you often cut into conversations and answer for people?", "Oh I’m sorry did I hurt your feelings?", "yes now suckle them better", "Lmao suckle? You’ve never had your balls sucked by anyone but your own imagination. Even your father would rather molest someone else", "my father never loved me enough to molest me. stop taking your rape for granted.", "Lmao sorry I’ll check my rape privilege.", "Haha yeah none of the jokes were funny and it was just done for shock value but nothing creative about it.", "Is this supposed to be funny? Wow. Just sad.", "it is funny.", "I adore dark humor, but this guy is literally trying too hard killing any joke he's trying to make in an instant." ]	15	videos	yucko the clown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjZpBq1XBE	/r/videos/comments/qz6g37/disneys_fastpass_a_complicated_history/	[ "Uploaded an hour ago, hour 45 mins long.... Over 1200+ likes already...\n\nWow", "Besides being a popular youtuber, he was hyping this particular video for a while.", "I love Disney, such a cool history!", "Didn't see the twist coming!", "Have something to watch later now, thanks!", "I love extremely in-depth and informative videos about weird niche topics. I haven't been to Disney in over a decade and have no immediate plans to go back, but I was completely enthralled by this for almost 2 hours. I feel like I learned so much and yet I will almost certainly never use any of this information at any point in the rest of my life", "The rest of the channel is great - it's probably the closest to TV quality stuff you'd find on YouTube. The videos are divided between seasons and a lot of them are strung together by light arcs (Esiner, Walt Disney's Story, Jim Henson)", "Oh yeah this is one of the few channels I actually follow on YouTube. Their Henson series is incredible. I also really liked the doc they made about the Tomorrowland rock band.", "I love his dedication to hire someone make a full simulation", "Jesus fucking christ what a convoluted system. We already have a mechanism for allocating scarce resources: money.\nThe bottom line is that the number of people who want to ride the most popular rides exceeds the daily capacities of those rides.\n\nThe solution is and always has been to charge for fast passes. They are easing guests into it by only charging 15 bucks extra to start, but--mark my words--that fee is going to climb until an equilibrium between supply and demand is met.", "The current system needs a class action lawsuit. They make you pay for all tickets then restrict how many per hour you can request then close the queues well early in the day. Blatant misrepresentation of the services sold.", "New Defunctland?? Christmas came early!", "We have other methods as well for places where using money would cause a social or consumer backlash. For example, there was a LOT of resistance to using money to decide who gets first-day movie tickets or game consoles or such - so we used “willingness to wait in a line overnight” as a proxy for desire and worthiness. \n\nSometimes we use systems that even offer tiered pricing in exchange for time consuming effort. Coupon-clippers for example. Folks who will check prices and clip coupons want the lowest prices. But lowering prices for everyone is less profitable. So, you make the cheaper folks work for it. You still get them as customers and slimmer profits from them, and get full profits from the lazy. \n\nFast Passes have often rewarded the hardcore most because they worked to understand and game the system. “We will wait in line for X and you take all four of our passes to Z to get fast passes.” Etc. \n\nEffort is a way to allocate resources too and sometimes it is SEEN TO BE MOTE FAIR even if it isn’t. Money is a good tool — but social pressures and expectations still have force.", "Its ppl like Him and Gaming Historian that make history channel obsolete.", "Truly an epic documentary. Thanks for letting me be Dotson! Haha", "I use likes as a way to know I've watched a video. So I click it at the start of a video.", "I really don't like Disneyland or theme parks in general... but I do like youtube essays, and a lot of people on youtube really like Disney parks. So I find myself learning a lot about Disney parks despite never intending to go to one.\n\nYes I'm definitely going to watch this, possibly multiple times.", "Love the down votes. I just got back from a week there and we tried out the Genie+. Go buy it assholes and find out.", "Let there be backlash; it will be drowned out by the people who can actually afford the park being delighted by the now much shorter lines. Being able to go to Disneyland is not important. If a bunch of people suddenly can't afford it, I will not shed any tears for them.", "You would love Captain Disillusion's video on the movie Flight of the Navigator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyixMpuGEL8\n\n42 minute incredibly detailed analysis of every special effects shot in the movie, going into the history of the SFX companies, the technologies and rigs they developed, it's insane and the production values are through the roof. I never even saw the movie but I've watched his video twice. It's really fantastic.", "> Being able to go to Disneyland is not important.\n\nMaking disney as capitalist as possible is also not important.", "Maybe, but the people who make that call own the park and have decided that they are going to charge more money and ignore the screeching from Disney weirdos.", "tldw?", "As someone who did a trip to Disney last month, Genie Pass is a horrible system. My family could not sync times to get on a open time, even when syncing the request. We'd try to plan the day and it never worked out for us. Overall, a confusing system. God help you if you're not that great with apps or phones. Universal system was way better. Just get in the fast pass line. No app required.", "The backlash would die out pretty quickly or would just be ignored entirely because people would not give a shit and still go. Hell, most of the people complaining would be complaining while booking the plane tickets to Florida.", "The absolute madman actually simulated FastPass+ by hiring an industrial engineer to set it up.", "Can somebody explain this comment, lol? This dude just pulled a random comment from the YouTube video that has no bearing to the Reddit conversation, used it as a reply to this post for some reason, and now his account is suspended three hours later? Is this a bot or something?", "People downvote so aggressively on reddit as of late. I hate it. It's not a disagree button!", "They must have hit subscribe and smashed that bell icon", "So funny, I'm the same way. Could care less about actually going to a Disney park, but I'm addicted to watching Disney-related videos on Defunctland, Expedition Theme Park, etc.", "This is both oddly informative and vaguely terrifying. I never want to go Disneyland now; this is like... an anti-commercial. I feel like there should be a shorter term for that.", "Almost definitely a bot", "How is it a blatant misrepresentation sold? There's probably a fine print saying they can limit sales. More so Gene+ is really if anything Disney bring back the whole E ticket system with crowd managment.", "Don't you get that red line indicator at the bottom for videos previously watched?", "I swear Jenny Nicholson could do a ten hour video of her favorite ways paint drys and I would still watch and enjoy the entire thing somehow.\n\nI still don't care about The Mouse but I sure do know a lot about the parks because of her. And the Vampire Diaries, fuck knows why.", "A warning is what that is usually called.", "They restrict it so much that you get maybe 2 or 3 rides per day. In advertising it, they claim you get one per ride listed. The restrictions shouldn't be buried in fine print because it would reduce sales. We were there five days and they require all tickets if you select the option (5 people × 5 days x $15 = $375+tax). Oh and if you go to the park past noon, forget even using it. All the rides say none available. We had multiple days of non-use.", "Over the thumbnail, yes. But if I’m auto playing or clock a link from Reddit there’s no indication on the actual video. Which is dumb.", "I love his stuff but I’m genuinely curious about his last name. In the US and UK we have a lot of profession based common last names. Thatcher, Cooper, Smith, these are all last names of people who thatched roofs, made shoes and tools so what is the story on Perjurer.", "So your solution is that poor people can't go to Disney land and only rich people can?", "Yeah that's why it's the length of a feature film", "Disneyland is not a civil right.\n\nAlso poor people already can't afford to go to disneyland.", "Its like as if its an online cue system that you are paying to enter or something. More so if you are able to get on rides how is there any misrepresentation? Anyone with any sense would see Genie+ isn't worth it and its a money grab. One that you fell for.", "His videos on the history of disney world and epcot are a fascinating piece on walt disney and the history of theme parks in general.\n\nThe video that explains walts idea for a future utopia was amazing. But i have no doubt the original epcot was impossible.", "Bye troll.", "2 Hour Defunctland Video? 💥_💥", "havent been to disney since before the smartphone era...\n\ni remember the fastpasses worked real well.\n\nalso my sister had a mild disability that allowed us to skip most lines so maybe im remembering that.", "disney isnt a \"right\" though, the social backlash would be bullshit. you wont convince anyone that you \"deserve\" to pay less for your privileged queue access at an already >$100/day amusement park. literally just dont go.\n\ndisney could also basically tell all possible whiny american customers to fuck off and still fill the parks to the brim with tourists.", "I bought it and it worked as expected. The part that sucks is it appears the quantity of passes issued stays the same no matter what percentage of park goers have opted for it. Thus, the tool becomes less useful on a busy day at the park instead of more useful.\n\nThe system seems most useful for moderately busy days.", "You didn’t have to be in the park to make your first booking. You could do so at 7am if staying onsite or 9am/park open for everyone else.", "We did; it's how we got our 2 - 3 rides. They still restrict the amount you can select to 1 per hour and two total at a time. You then have to use the first to continue, so if you get to the park late other than ass crack of dawn it doesn't work as advertised.", "I’m there right now on day three of our vacation. Can confirm. Genie+ is garbage.", "lol, why are you being downvoted?", "Nobody ever smashes my bell… :(", "Reddit, who knows 🤣", "Good luck dude. If I could do it over, 1 Day at Magic Kingdom, 1 day at Hollywood Studios, 2 at universal. Monday through Thursday.", "Maybe it's Mortimer Mouse and his bots.", "Those dirty rats!!\n\nBut seriously, Disney history is really cool. The \"imagineering\" department - how they try to cater and envelop the user in the whole experience... Rather than just, here's this ride, here's that ride, here's another ride over here. It's a whole experience.\n\nI know Disney has a \"bad\" side, what company doesn't have have drama?", "That’s us next time for sure. We’re doing 4 at Disney with park hopper, a day “off” for rest, then 2 at Universal. It’s too much.", ">One that you fell for.\n\nThat there was something to fall for is what people are taking issue with.\n\nCan you really not grasp why people are criticizing this service?\n\nIs it important to you that people don't discuss how \"Genie+ isn't worth it and its a money grab\"?", "> Also poor people already can't afford to go to disneyland.\n\nBut still end up going.", "Disney has tried a few different que systems over the years. Some were thought up by industrial engineer's others by marketing experts. The industrial engineer designed systems worked best but Disney likes to play around with the sunk cost fallacy and will not abandon a broken system thought up by marketing people.", "A boring dystopia.", "For me, if I could pay to get permanent fast pass, I would. I believe a lot of people would do so as well. The current system is flawed, but it's the least poisonous of all options. Charging money for better theme park experience is against the spirit of Disney", "Just about everything Ive heard and read about post-pandemic Disney (or, pretending pandemic is over Disney) has been really negative. I’d like to get my kids to Disney world sometime soonish just because it’s like a rite of childhood, but i have no desire to deal with crap like this. I’m planning to hold off until I hear more positivity.", ">Charging money for better theme park experience is against the spirit of Disney\n\n\nIs there another company named Disney that has big amusement parks that I am unaware of?", "That equilibrium is something Disney knows that it must never reach. In the long run let's say they charge 10 times as much for a ticket to Disneyland, they would still be able to fill the parks sure, but now they are catering to only the rich. Those who can afford tickets still only make a few lifetime visits, and those who can't lose faith in the mouse. Vacations are spent elsewhere and children of lower class and most middle class families don't grow up demanding for Disney birthdays, Disney toys, or Disney movies. \n\nDisney is investing in life long revenue sources.", "Or PSA.", "I pray every day that Jenny Nicholson discovers some new piece of terrible media to analyze. Dear Evan Hansen was truly a blessing, to say nothing of Opposite Worlds.", "Sorry, I wasn't so clear. I meant creating specific tiers for visitors. The whole point that Disney was trying to do with the original park was to have a place where all were equal to enjoy it.", "> disney isnt a \"right\" though, the social backlash would be bullshit. \n\nneither are consoles, high end PC parts, or concert tickets, yet people get unreasonably angry at the idea of auctioning them off to the highest bidder.", "I had a particularly good night of poker and used some of the proceeds to take my family of 4 to Six Flags Great America. I got the Platinum passes and the entire day wound up in the $1000 range after food and whatever else. Insanity for a trip to Great America, but honestly it was fantastic. Simply walked right up to the front of every single line and got on immediately.\n\nGive me all the dirty looks you want, general admission peasants! These things cost a fortune.", "Wow Shapeland sounds so cool!", "Yeah video is great but looking at the channel there isn't much else to watch if you don't like Disney, this one video pretty much hits my saturating point of caring about Disney.", "Maybe? I feel like companies are conservative when it comes to changes like this. It took a long time for movie theaters to add premium seating and premium pricing, and even then they had to make plenty of excuses for it, not just managing scarcity. \n\nThey are afraid that if they ruin the experience or the brand, they will lose customers forever.", "> It's not a disagree button!\n\nYour comment is marked Controversial because it's getting downvoted lol. \n\nEven though that's what it says in the Reddiquette handbook.", "Rumor has it the man is secretly Brad Pitt...", "Less than 1 day old", "Pretty sure it's cause you said you love Disney despite the fact they use salve labor, support human rights violations, are one of the biggest contributiors to pollution through their cruise lines and the amount of electry they use and waste they put out. Idk just a thought could also be the fact the founder was a supporter of Hitler and was very antisemitic and racist.", "I dug that video up to recommend it to some people, and ended up watching it for a 2nd time. Such a great breakdown that really shows how much ingenuity goes into special effects, and how much Alan Melikdjanian (aka Captain Disillusion) loves the craft", "Idk maybe organizations like the red cross or the peace corps, and drama is a bit of a light term for a company founded by a Nazi antisemitic racist, that still takes advantage of slave labor and looks past human rights violations to turn greater profits", "> also my sister had a mild disability that allowed us to skip most lines so maybe im remembering that.\n\nthere were rent-a-disabled person services to boost groups. lmao", "Hawt Damn, Defunctland doesn't upload a regular Defunctland episode in 6 months and hits it out of the park.\n\nCan highly recommend the one about the failed launch of [Euro Disneyland Paris](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFE8RlKlLCE)", "Per person? Honestly, I might consider doing that if were to travel from overseas, just for Disneyworld, and was a once in a lifetime thing.", "Defunctland makes fantastic quality content. The Jim Henson documentary is the best out there. * Chef's Kiss *", "I'll die on this hill. Nothing grinds my gears more here than disagree downvoting. It stifles debate/dialogue and makes for a watered down hive-mind experience.", "Bye fraigle one.", "I don't care if they talk about it or not. But don't act surprised when you find out what its actually is when you dive in without researching it first.", "Eisner literally had his execs map out potential 3rd resort options throughout the US - but found that every one (except for smaller specialized ones like Disney's America) cannibalized WDW and Disneyland's attendances. I was lucky enough to have classes with an ex-Disney-exec who talked about this frequently.\n\nFun fact - the budget for any of these parks was to be $350 million in 80's-90's dollars.", "Can confirm Universal system is just the way better system. Was there 2 years ago to see Falcon heavy launch and had a free day to do something because the launch was delayed \"2nd time it happened boy was that fun having to reschedule my flight twice\" Decided to go to universal on a whim with no planning at all and got the Fast pass ticket option, got to ride almost every ride in both parks \"Counting the Harry Potter stuff\" with waits of less than 15 mins. Longest wait time was for King Kong oddly enough at like 50 mins lol", "I was at Disneyland in 2002 when FastPass was still fairly new, and was there again in 2018 when MaxPass was a thing. I can say for certain that the data in this video is accurate from experiencing them first hand. I'm hesitant to go there again just due to how unpleasant waiting in line is, and how Disneyland has become so hyper-focused around pushing guests to spend more money.", "That don't impress-a me much.", "Oh, then it's a no-brainer if one had the means", "The bottom line is that too many people are allowed to be in the parks. These systems work when the parks have enough breathing room to move people around to different rides. The second the park hits a certain number of people you start to see problems and if a ride goes down it doesn't just hurt that ride but basically all rides in the park.", "> It's not a disagree button!\n\nThat's where you're wrong. It's always been a disagree button, even if reddit doesn't want it to be.", "\"Rich people having nicer things than poor people\" is a hell of a low bar for a dystopia", "Disneyland until recently was something most people could afford on occasion, but it's now out of reach for many.\n\n\"rich people have nicer things than poor people\" can get too extreme. This isn't at the level of \"poor people can only afford to eat rich people's garbage\" but it heads in that direction.", "That's what happens when a theme park's popularity grows way way way faster than it can increase capacity. The price will naturally shift upwards from something middle class to something upper middle class, it's just supply and demand. It's still entirely a luxury so you'd be hard press to find a problem with it.", "Yes, you're right.\n\nWhen energy, food and living space become more expensive due to their \"popularity\" growing faster than supply (which is already in progress) it gets dark, but slowly. \n\nKinda like a boring dystopia.", "Calling someone fragile doesn't make you right.", "How about doing your research next time before you jump into conclusions you're extremely embarrassing \n\n [https://www.waltdisney.org/blog/defense-walt-disney](https://www.waltdisney.org/blog/defense-walt-disney)" ]	100	videos	Disney's FastPass: A Complicated History. Defunctland's 109 minute on the history of amusement park rides and the problem with Disney's FastPass program.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c_5RSojX0LU&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qz6jgh/nickocado_avocado_moments_that_have_me_worried/	[ "Moments? The entire last, what, five years should have you worried about this guy.", "Why? He's literally doing it for clout or whatever selfish reasons he has. And you feel sorry for the dude?🤦🏻‍♂️", "this isn't my video.", "this isn't my video." ]	5	videos	nickocado avocado moments that have me worried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOuGH9Gpeos	/r/videos/comments/qz6pt0/the_chats_identity_theft/	[ "Oh Pricey...", "Bit of Aussie trivia re: the name, the pejorative 'chat' refers to something or someone shit/bad/gross and the etymological origin is the name of a suburb - Chatswood.", "best song to listen to on smoko", "they will be doing a U.S. tour in 2022, get out there and support these chats!", "Oh look, it's the Noosa private school version of Eddy Current Suppression Ring.", "They got nothing on Eddy Current.", "So long as everyone leaves you alone!", "I mean, it sounds like a LOT of music in that genre. Eddy Current just sounds like The Hives.\n\nImagine gatekeeping music.", "Imagine ignoring blatant class tourism.", "Exactly." ]	11	videos	The Chats - Identity Theft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWoZ1YVYwHY	/r/videos/comments/qz6rit/i_played_resident_evil_4_vr_and_this_is_what/	[ "What equipment? This is my favorite game of all time. If anyone can tell me how to get it to run smoothly on a Galaxy a20 I'd love you forever.", "It's unfortunately only on Oculus Quest 2 right now :/", "Holy shit, this is sick, I didn’t realize it was on VR", "i can feel the VR sickness already" ]	4	videos	I Played Resident Evil 4 VR And This Is What Happened
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fYcDQ11vI0M	/r/videos/comments/qz780w/please_dont_destroy_snl_digital_short_touch_up/	[ "This was the perfect skit to have watched after seeing a bunch of pics of women with lip injections on Insta. \n\nPlease, for the love of the holiest beauty, if you do this, stop! You are enough. You look like exaggerated cartoons at best with those injections, and like you got attacked by the bees you are allergic to, at worse. It does not look good! Of course the person who sold you the stuff told you it looks great. And your relatives and friends are too polite. Save your money for something that doesn’t tell the inner you that you are unsightly. The injections never hide the sad look in the eyes.", "those fingers genuinely give me the creeps", "I kinda like that look though." ]	3	videos	Please Don’t Destroy (SNL Digital Short) - Touch Up
https://youtu.be/sdnJxDmJNmA	/r/videos/comments/qz8qvh/mentos_the_fresh_maker/	[ "Hilarious", "hahahah so funny - you were turned down and laughed at so you should beat the shit out of a woman in response!\n\nHAHAHAHAHA SO FUCKING FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAH /s\n\nNormalizing violence against women is not funny, a joke, and fuck you.", "Yes. This was a tutorial, right?", "Joking about it and having a laugh at violence against women yeah.", "Not everything has to literally be the thing. \n\nIs Grand Theft Auto normalizing car jacking and violently shooting people? HAHAHA GANG VIOLENCE HAHA! HAHA YOU PUNCHED A GUY AND STOLE HIS CAR! HAHA!\n\nYou see how silly that sounds? But that's just my opinion. I can have my comedy, you can have yours. You can even say \"fuck you\" if it makes you feel better. I thought this was funny (when I originally saw it more than a decade ago)... it's still amusing.\n\nClearly the women in the video were fine with the comedy, they were in it... so it's almost like not everyone has the same sensibilities and yours don't override mine.", "That it's horrible is the joke.", "No its making fun of mentos commericals. Nothing about it is a PSA on why this is a bad response.", "Very retro, doesn't age well.", "Leave now. These comments suck.", "> ~~hahahah so funny - you were turned down and laughed~~\n> ~~at so you should beat the shit out of a woman in response!~~ \n\n> ~~HAHAHAHAHA SO FUCKING FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAH /s~~\n\n> ~~Normalizing violence against women is not funny, a joke,~~\n> ~~and fuck you.~~\n\n>REEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE!\n\nFTFY", "[Relevant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By72eQtjglM)", "Yes, a true pick up artist.", "Exactly?", "He's missing \"flair\" to \"peacock\". Maybe a top hat, neon pink scarf, and aviator goggles would have woo'd her.", "hahahah so funny - you were made fun of so you should post a video insensitive to those with intellectual disabilities in response!\n\nHAHAHAHAHA SO FUCKING FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAH /s\n\nNormalizing use of the r-word not funny, a joke, and fuck you.", "Dude I'm with you. You ever see that show with the electric yellow rat that normalizes animal cruelty? We should complain about that next, bro!!", "haha ya cause words vs violence. same thing.", "Words vs FICTIONAL violence.\n\nBut isn't your whole complaint about insensitivity?", "insensitivity? Are you fucking stupid?", "The joke in the video was insensitive to violence against women. Wasn't that your point?", "Let me guess, you think Dave Chapelle's transphobic.", "let me guess, you work in a place where you have your name on your shirt.", "I had some fun tho ymmv", "Fuck that is such a good insult I'm commenting so I can remember to use this in the future.", "It's not normalizing violence against women. It's funny cause it's the last thing you'd think of doing and it's a spoof on mentos.", "Pack it in boys. This edgelord just solved violence against women.\n\nJokes and funny are not allowed, you have to explicitly state a thing is bad or you’re obviously part of that thing.", "If this didnt happen to women - aka men freaking out and beating the fuck out of them when rejected or laughed at, it would be funny. \n\nWhen men were asked, what is the thing you fear the most when going on a date - they reply to be laughed at.\n\nWhen you ask women the same question - its being assaulted, raped or killed.\n\nSo fuck you.", "Eat shit and die, you humorless loser lmao", "Anyone else think one of the dude talking sounds like Muscle Man from Regular Show and the other guy kinda looks like him?", "Was just thinking about this the other day.", "I think they need a Mentos", "Chill tf out you elitist prick. Have a mentos.", "No, dipshit, it's whether or not we go dutch on the bill. With Mentos.", "Yes, there are bad things in the real world. People make jokes about them. \n\nYour inability to find humour in those jokes doesn't mean everyone else has to diminish their appreciation of it. It certainly doesn't mean that global humour has to be reduced to 'things that haven't happened to someone' to make you feel comfortable. \n\nThe comedy comes from the fact its such an extreme response. The joke would be the same if he wailed on a man who's laughed at him for asking to join in a ball game or some shit. Violence is an extreme response, Mentos caused this extreme response, thats the joke.\n\nAnyways all of this is redundant, you've come across dark and gallows humour before, understand why it exists, and have probably made jokes some would find objectionable yourself. What you're actually doing is grandstanding in a public forum. I hope its because you're bored and not a symptom of your character.", "\"Is that Stacy burgerson\" was buried so deep in my subconscious that I didn't know what this was til I heard that glorious line", "Yeah. They're so full of shit their breath probably does stink.", "Classic", "I wonder where they're all now..", "I’m just here for the trainwreck \n\nSup", "*against women", "Lol omg I'd never seen that. I'm cracking up over here!", "Imagine acting like you have never seen absurdist humor.", "Goddamn, people who police humor are obnoxious", "the rittenhouse special", "How weak is your brain if you think this normalizes violence", "You’re normalizing puppet rape fisting with that clip. Did the puppet consent?? No I didn’t think so. RAPE!! RAPE!!! What’s it like to be a humorless fuck that sucks the life out of everything because you need to be so edgy and woke?", "The Incelmaker", "Right?!", "🎶 do-dodo-do-do-aaaawaaaaaaaaaah 🎶", "Team terf btw", "No posts for a long time. Anyone know what happened to that guy?", "that's true. Violence against real people is and has always has been fine. Just not women ):", "NO THANKS TO MENTOS", "I had the same reaction! I used to work with a guy who that was his version of Felicia.", "I hope this was an assignment for a class", "I mean, he’s definitely wrong on certain talking points, but he’s not transphobic.", "One of them looks like he went on to become Adam DeVine", "Proud Boy recruiting video.", "Wtf", "obligatory mentos commercial. more women friendly\n\nhttps://vimeo.com/135112020\n\nNSFW", "This isn't a high school parking lot though.", "ahhh right, silly technicalities which render entire legal issues void.", "Methos" ]	65	videos	mentos: the fresh maker
https://youtu.be/5A-F9qu6c_4	/r/videos/comments/qz8rks/i_see_no_wrong_in_this_everything_he_says_is_the/	[ "Damn dude", "Why is it filmed from behind? Also, R1 no politics.", "Except it isn’t! So by all logic all white men are racist and all black people rob liquor stores?", "Just by the title alone, you know it’s all bull shit.", "Bingo – that there is the problem with his rant. If there are exactly two Indias, then there’s the one that matches his politics and everyone else is a rapist. Way to distill it down into a self-serving worldview that just adds more noise.", "If the two indias are \"the parts I like\" and \"the parts I don't like\", it doesn't mean that politicians hugging without masks on are rapists even though they're both present in \"the parts I don't like\" section.\n\nIt's bizarre to me that you hear a rhetorical device and think the speaker is trying to lay down some mathematical provable truths with it.", "I appreciate your nuanced take on his talk. But a more direct interpretation is that there are two segments of India's population and he is describing each individually. That he cavalierly mixes the two interpretations is the problem, imo. I have no problem with calling out the bad aspects of any culture/nation and making it clear that all political orientations are to blame for these (e.g., misogyny)." ]	7	videos	I see no wrong in this, everything he says is the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjlcDdrMnV0	/r/videos/comments/qz8xlg/corey_feldman_just_released_an_unseen_music_video/	[ "This is great why did he wait so long?", "I think the wrong Corey died.", "Is that Billy Ocean?", "You could have told me he filmed this yesterday and I wouldn’t think twice about it.", "Dude really had a thing for MJ huh...", "He taught MJ everything he knew...", "He hasn't changed musically and that is amazing. Amazingly horrible to be more accurate. Not only has his style not changed but his dance moves, his beat and timing and lyric writing are just as shitty now. A true marvel, a testament to shit.", "Read the description", "Wow. That plot description is tragic.", "\n\nDescription\n\nCiFi Records PRESENTS: COREY FELDMAN “RUNAWAY” Short Film\n\nCiFi Records Presents: COREY FELDMAN OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO OF “RUNAWAY” FROM LOVE LEFT 2.1 BOX SET: This Amazing Time Capsule has been completely restored from the Original 1986 VHS tape it was found on. “Runaway” was the very first song Corey ever wrote, produced & Recorded. Filmed at his fathers tiny 1 bedroom Hollywood apartment in 1986 while Corey was shooting “The Lost Boys”.\n\n The cast is made up of a group of Corey’s closest friends at the time. 2 boys his own age, featuring his cousin Michael, and close friend Jason who was also a child actor, a female actress/dancer, a magician introduced to him by Michael Jackson named Majestik, (not an abuser) and 2 men who would actually become Corey’s sexual abusers just a few short weeks after this video was shot. The video was directed and Choreographed by a young Feldman. Impressive work for a 15 Yr old amateur.\n\n Shockingly the couch in the video was Corey’s bed during this time. Breaking the preconceived notion that Corey was a “spoiled Rich Kid with a silver spoon in his mouth.” The shocking reality is much more upsetting.\n\n Corey wrote this song as a “Cry for Help” \n\nThe song and video which originally had a 10 minute scripted build up to the musical part of the short film, was about an abused kid, who ran away and ended up on the streets where he would be discovered by Majestik’s character (Black Jack) the town Pimp, in an alley, who convinces Corey to come upstairs to this warm safe apartment for a hot meal and some clean clothes. Once Corey’s character (The Kid) makes his way upstairs the 2 “Heavies” played by J. Grissom and A. Rivas tackle The Kid to the ground, tie him up, force feed him Crack Cocaine and push him into a bedroom where he’s tied up by the wrists w a young female. This is now a holding cell of sorts. They are both told they must put on a sexual show. The door closes. Giving them time for the drugs to take effect making them more subservient. After time passes and the 2 bad guys realize that The Kid isn’t coming out and the door is locked from the inside, they decide to break it down. That is where this clip from the Short Film picks up. Shockingly The Kid has transformed from a. sheepish and ragged kid, to a super hero type rock star who zaps the heavies, with some sort of magic power, which takes control of all of them and hypnotizes the other slaves into a trans like synchronized dance, freeing the other children from the bondage and controlling the bad adults by making them become his back up dancers.\n\n Unfortunately the rest of the footage including the dialogue scenes was never recovered. But Corey felt the world should have a peek into what his childhood was really like. And where he came from, to help people understand his artistic vision. This video clearly shows the innocence of his youth while also clearly calling out for someone parental to notice who he was surrounded by, and the hope that they would stop the abuse, before he ended up on the streets, essentially it was a cry for help. Just 6 months after this project was shot, Corey left his fathers apartment and filed for emancipation at 15 years old. Which the Court’s awarded him. Making him a legal adult by 16. Ironically it was 1 of his abusers shown in this video (now a Fugitive convict) who helped him obtain the legal council to move fwd with his case. Corey made the decision to include this video as part of his box set, because he felt it was as poignant as it was timely. Corey wrote in his 2012 book Coreyography that he was left unattended most of his time at home, and was literally surrounded by Pedophiles. Well as you can clearly see, he was not exaggerating. This video should serve as a warning to all parents to listen to your children, never leave them alone with adults outside of the family, and most importantly LOVE your children with everything we have as they are ours to protect. The Runaway video is being released and restored for the first time in history after 35 years in the dark as part of Corey’s Expansive LOVE LEFT 2.1 box set, which is being sold exclusively through Corey’s own website WWW.COREYFELDMAN.NET", "I can't tell which men are the adults.", "Excuse me, but Ascension Millennium is a national treasure.", "COREY FELDMAN “RUNAWAY” Short Film\n\nAs opposed to \n\n[Kanye West - Runaway (Full-length Film)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg5wkZ-dJXA)", "Which ones are his abusers? I feel like that should be more clear for the sake of the other people in the video", "The editing is on point.", "I can’t wait for the Bon Fire to watch this… “look at my dick dude it’s like rock right now” crackle crackle", "Especially the being white part.", "Nightmare fuel.", ">Once Corey’s character (The Kid) makes his way upstairs the 2 “Heavies” played by J. Grissom and A. Rivas tackle The Kid to the ground\n\nBy the sounds of the paragraph prior to that, it's been all cut out as it was originally a 10 minute short film leading up to this music video? But then he says\n\n>Just 6 months after this project was shot, Corey left his fathers apartment and filed for emancipation at 15 years old. Which the Court’s awarded him. Making him a legal adult by 16. Ironically it was 1 of his abusers shown in this video (now a Fugitive convict) who helped him obtain the legal council to move fwd with his case.", "Nah. He still trying to get people in his car.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/zNgcYGgtf8M", "I suspect it will mostly remain unseen", "I'm guessing that Corey never received the therapeutic treatment that he needed when he was a kid. His erratic disclosures were made years later. In addition, given his behavior over the years, he would likely be considered as treatment resistant from a clinical perspective. Put another way, it is unlikely that Corey was ever receptive to sound advice from other folks. This video is supposed \"to help people understand his artistic vision,\" thus offering answers to questions that no one had ever asked. Exploiting your own abuse in order to stay relevant is pretty sad in any case.\n\nNot sure of the actual facts, but his life is a guaranteed train wreck when he writes: \"Just 6 months after this project was shot, Corey left his fathers apartment and filed for emancipation at 15 years old. Which the Court’s awarded him.\" Unfortunate if this allowed Corey to \"call the shots\" regarding his own life without a legal guardian.", "Man Jicheal Mackson is such a good dancer", "Wow. This is bad.", "How do I know this isn't Michael Jackson?", "As opposed to\n\n[Bon Jovi - Runaway (Official Music Video)](https://youtu.be/s86K-p089R8)", "That's what you're taking away from this story, you fucking cunt?", "So this is where tiktok came from", "and my axe", "Yeah I have never gotten trying that hard to be someone else not matter how cool you think they are outside of acting. I don't get cover bands either, when a band covers someone else's song as a tribute is one thing but taking the entire identity is another.", "Dude saw MJ and said “YES! I’m going to do exactly that but worse. ”", "As opposed to\n\n[Del Shannon Runaway](https://youtu.be/0S13mP_pfEc)", "> a magician introduced to him by Michael Jackson named Majestik, (not an abuser) \n\nNo fucking way. If you have seen how he writes you can tell this was written by Feldman himself.", "And I thought he just couldn't act, turns out he can't sing or dance either.", "This must have been when Corey Feldman most have stopped growing creatively. It looks just as shitty as the videos he did as a grown man.", "Go for it. Go. For. It.", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGoMSzPgQ4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGoMSzPgQ4)\n\nTIL that Howard Stern tried to knock Corey out of his delusion that he's a talented singer/musician. Didn't do a damn thing. Dude still believes he can sing and dance.", "I fucking love Corey Feldman yo. He's a hero for speaking up about the things that happened to him and his friends in Hollywood. The story in the video description is really interesting and very sad.", "You'd think that someone who's been doing this for over 35 years would've managed to get at least somewhat decent...", "Tik tok without the cute irony.", "Adults that prey on children have a special spot in hell. Of course his abuser would \"help\" emancipate him. Though legally an adult, you're still a child. Abusers often take advantage in any way possible to separate someone from any amount of familiarity or safety they could possibly have. It makes the victim feel that someone finally has their back. Sure, they may hurt you, but they helped you when nobody else would, so they aren't too bad, right? I don't know anything else about this guy, but I hope he was able to seek therapy over all of this. I can't imagine being in that position as a child.", "If he ever gets questioned about it, he claims they \"grew up working/learning together a lot\" so thats why their styles are similar and definitely not because he blatantly tried to copy his dancing etc. He outright denies MJ directly influenced him. I believe you can find him saying this in interviews around the terrible Today Show performance of \"Go 4 It\" but the cringe is too powerful for me to hunt it down myself.", "He actually treats the women around him like complete trash, including controlling their diet and appearance and, according to some former \"Angels,\" possibly coercing them into relationships---thus completing the cycle of abuse. So fuck Corey Feldman too. \n\n[See this channel for descriptions of alleged abusive behavior from former employees.](https://youtube.com/user/everythingbobbywolfe)\n\n[\"Feldman has said he has one top “maingel” in the group and explained his house rules include a strict diet of no meat, exercise, and not allowing men on the property “unless they're invited guests.” Other rules: “Angels must be open to change and willing to learn” and “nudity is beauty.”'](https://pagesix.com/2016/09/17/corey-feldmans-performance-on-today-ignites-twitter/)", "The Feldog is back! Crackle Crackle!", "oh :/ Thats... very not cool", "You would have at least thought something like 'Where did Corey get the wig?'", "https://youtu.be/BZX7UJSXCiU nothing will stop his delusions.", "I've always been partial to\n\n[Bonnie Raitt Runaway](https://youtu.be/HPzcZNgVfpA)", "30 years later and it's still the same shite show: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik48KbKuOWM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik48KbKuOWM)", "In his defense, he also sorta puts it all in perspective for the room there. He does the song and dance stuff because he enjoys it. It's his favorite thing. Which makes sense IMO. As an actor, a child actor particularly, he wasn't expressing himself through the craft of acting. He was a puppet. But as a musician, or an author, he really is expressing himself. And I guarantee that's what Corey wants more than anything: people to hear him. \n\nIts just too bad he's so awful at it.", "As opposed to \n\n[Runaway - Janet Jackson](https://youtu.be/dMCAacKA6zg)", "Didn't Charlie Sheen rape a couple of these Corey'", "Should have kept it unseen", "Definitely. We saw him live because we thought the album was so funny. It was a good time. I do think he needs to go through therapy so he stops treating these 20 something year old girls like they're in a cult, and I dont think his trauma excuses his actions. But hes surrounded by people who dont tell him no.", "As opposed to Runaway by:\n\n[The Corrs](https://youtu.be/0fMUYU8DC1U), [Linkin Park](https://youtu.be/R95KftL2H1g) or [Jamiroquai](https://youtu.be/uldpc4rWNXQ)", "I haven't heard this one before. Nice one! I missed the iconic keyboard solo, but it was good still. That harmonica solo seemed tricky :D Kept on changing them between chord changes and almost pulled off the last one by just bending.", "Do we know where Charlie Sheen is right now?", "if we can give the benefit of the doubt to Florence Foster Jenkins, we should at least give it a try with Ol' Corey.", "I know it's common to dunk on Corey's music, but at least he has the conviction to just ... go ... for ... it.", "Didn't expect another camper randomly. Crackle crackle mother/father fucker! Happy dead turkey day!\n\n/u/slappychappy04\n\nI forgot this is felddog....nevermind. Still happy to see a camper!", "I love it and you love. Me lovey" ]	66	videos	Corey Feldman just released an unseen music video from 1986
https://youtu.be/Rod53H_VrY4	/r/videos/comments/qz92pq/amber_ruffin_saying_what_needs_to_be_said/	[ "Apparently what needed to be said is parroting the lies the left wing media have been spreading about Rittenhouse.", "Clearly she didn’t watch the trial or read any actual facts presented at the trial.", "Sht I thought it was gonna be a SNL sketch.", "Oh let me guess… He CrOsSeD sTaTe LiNeS.", "Ban her for spreading misinformation.\nOh wait, that would be racist.", "I can't tell which part of this is the most cringeworthy - the fake \"I need a moment to get through this\" at 30 seconds, the lie about him transporting his gun across state lines, trying to bring up disparity in the criminal justice system when she probably has zero examples of a black man being in a similar situation, or her telling black people \"you matter\" when there were zero black people involved in the shootings, other than the convicted felon jump-kick guy.", "Spouting a bullshit narrative that was thoroughly disproved in court is what it sounds like to be me", "Fuck Kyle Rittenhouse and fuck whoever this chick is. This trial and this crime had NOTHING to do with race and downvote me to hell all you want but I'm sick of every single issue being about it. Quit deviding this already fractured country with making everything about race! When you do that you draw a line in the sand so it's black vs white, and adopt a victim mindset. Neither will produce a desired outcome.\n\nNow that being said, a 16 year old should never have been able to travel across state lines with a fucking assault rifle and murder people. Even if they attacked him first it doesn't matter, the simple fact that he traveled there with the obvious intent to use that weapon, which is a crime, means he should be guilty of that murder. Period. It happens every day with people committing robbery that turns into murder, they go to prison for murder. He should spend the rest of his life in prison because his ass should have stayed where he was and never committed the crime that lead to people dying. He went out looking for trouble because he has the same mentality most Republican hillbillies do, that they are the only people that matter.", "While she was tearing up I really hoped this would be satire. Nope, same old bullshit. \"Crossed state lines!\" Unreal.\n\nHoly smokes I am sick of the lying, gaslighting media.", "More propaganda. Clear misinformation.", "I’m just see the thumbnail…could care less about the video\n\n….but that shirt, tie and jacket is an..interesting choice.", "No point when the outcome was decided before it started. The trial was for show and the way the judge acted alone should tell you that much. And ok, take the part out about crossing state lines and you still have a dumbass teenager with an assault rifle who committed a crime that resulted in other people's deaths. He should spend the rest of his life in prison.", "This is brainwashing society.", ">\"You matter\"\n\nIf anyone cared to listen instead of shrieking their disgust and hatred of anyone that disagrees with them.", "What crime did he commit, exactly?\n\nBecause “crossing state lines” and “shouldn’t have been there” are not illegal, last I checked.", "Is this a serious question or are you just a troll? You conveniently left out the part about a 16 year old with an assault rifle walking down the fucking road. You people will defend anyone who you perceive to be \"on your team\"", "First, he was 17 not 16. Second, carrying that weapon was perfectly legal in Wisconsin. Third, even if it was illegal to do so, that justifies life in prison?\n\nWatch the video, watch the trial. They’re easily available. There’s no excuse for ignorance about this.", "She spent that time perfecting crying on command.", "Are you asking serious questions or just a troll? It's perfectly legal for a 17 year old to open carry a rifle in Wisconsin.", "Lol just another dumb racist", "This video should be flagged by in an all on this sub, the poster youtuber is clearly using this as a way to direct traffic to their channel, and the video repeats statements that are false and are proven so in the public record, and in a court of law." ]	22	videos	Amber Ruffin Saying What Needs To Be Said...
https://youtu.be/20v1OxUXcQY?t=182	/r/videos/comments/qz9e99/simon_pegg_revealing_the_truth_about_benedict/	[ "Simon pegg is truly hilarious", "yip, if u make a woman laugh that hard.. she's defo fuckin u later.", "dang it alice eve is lovely.", " Alice Eve is gorgeous and her hair is fabulous.", "yikes, theredpill is leaking", "Aside from how funny he is, you can see Simon's gears clicking when the woman gets uncomfortable by the question. Dude just put on his Supes cape and came in for the rescue.", "[ Jump to 04:08 @ Simon Pegg: The truth about Benedict Cumberbatch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20v1OxUXcQY&t=0h4m8s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: On Demand Entertainment, Video Popularity: 97.82%, Video Length: [05:47])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@04:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20v1OxUXcQY&t=0h4m3s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "The whole interview is great, especially when Simon starts in on Alice.", "woah man, time to touch grass", "She kinda looks like Nicole Kidman here", "She is. The scene where she strips down to her underwear and kirk gets a creep peek on her was unnecessary and tacky, but still... my goodness >.>", "A supe cape? Pegg is one of the Boys and they were jackets.", "He really does come off as a good bloke you'd meet at the pub while you're waiting for it all to blow over.", "Lol I love the line about Chris Pine is \"too handsome to be handsome\"", "I never noticed the joke at the end. \n\n“Is he single? I don’t know. I know Martin Freeman and him were tight for a while”", "you can tell that they both think that the interviewer is a fucking moron", "Man, I always imagined Pegg as Hughie when I was reading the Boys.", "so did the comic's artists", "That would make a whole lot of sense.", "that's why they got SP to play Hughie's dad in the show - a nod to the comics", "How did I forget that?!", "They say there are no bad questions, they are of course wrong as demonstrated here.", "Yeah, I thought the 'with a face like that' at the end was a bit of a slap across the bow – and of course, the interviewer didn't get it.", "I love the response but jeez what a fucking uncomfortable question this interviewer did.", "I watch this video from time to time when I need a good laugh.\n\n[Also this other Star Trek interview video coincidentally.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixk01QlUPqw)\n\nThose movies had such a great cast.", "What’s up with the interviewer though? Strangely awkward.", "I met him at a party and he was just a cool in person! I was wearing a TOS Star Trek uniform and he kept running with it and calling me Dr (blue uniform) and insisting that we met at star fleet academy.", "She didn't seem to comprehend that Simon was mocking her question at all.", "“Was at inneee guud??”", "His American accent is solid", "What's the deal with blonde British women performing interviews and asking such vapid questions?", "Now that's what I call being an ally!", "eli5?", "I met him at this other pub once. Good bloke, holds his beer well, bit weird though. Someone offered us herbal refreshments and he started insisting everyone in town had turned into alien androids", "👌👈", "Nah, not when you're as gross as this comment makes you sound", "Sherlock", "When I meet him, I was waiting to cross at the 46th and 7th crosswalk I noticed a hand slip around me from behind and grab two of my fries. In my confusion I turned around and HOLY SHIT ITS SIMON FUCKING PEGG! Before I could get a word out, he yelled over the crowd, \"No one will ever believe you.\" He then cross to the other side of 7th avenue and disappeared into the crowd.", "And that man's name? Bill Murray", "I can promise you that it wasn't a sarcastic comment. She might not have fully meant it but it wasn't supposed to be an insult", "The Hobbit. Martin prefers to imagine Benedict as a dragon.", "Yeah I thought she just meant \"you're definitely his type\"", "I feel like this was Simon doing his best to get a laugh. skillfully and tactfully avoiding the lame-ass questions the interviewer unfortunately has to ask.", "Press circuit is full of bland questions for shows just promoting whatever movie/book/tv-show is doing the rounds.", "total cringe question. Hide your fucking thirst, woman. How much would people be howling if a dude interviewer was asking about how to date a famous female actor?", "Imagine someone asking Simon Pegg if he would like to lick Alice", "Just how I imagine a grot would speak.", "These interviews are so pointless…", "No I think she was just going with the deadpan delivery. You can tell with the whole \"I did interview him but it's a shame he didn't ask me out.\" delivered dead-pan. She seems cool.", "Yeah, she made a point to be ACTUALLY serious about that comment, like \"you're pretty and it seems like he'd go for you with how you look to me.\"", "I think these sorts of comments are fairly common about actors that are currently in the \"super hot\" category for the other sex.", "The world needs more [Chris Stark interviews](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Ezruu1oeQ)", "God, I hate Simon Pegg." ]	51	videos	Simon Pegg revealing the truth about Benedict Cumberbatch
https://youtu.be/0XHAYUFVH6Q	/r/videos/comments/qz9n7g/network_1976_directed_by_sidney_lumet/	[ "Seeing this clip makes me mad as hell. And I'm not going to take it anymore!", "My favorite scene in the movie. Something about Duvall's performance here is just so real. He's so worked up that it starts to sound like his tongue is swollen.", "This scene with Ned Beatty is brilliantly scary.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/V9XeyBd_IuA", "God I love this movie." ]	4	videos	Network 1976 - Directed by Sidney Lumet
https://youtu.be/Es4UfwdVnEY	/r/videos/comments/qza3eq/nicomen_nation_has_been_cut_off_they_need/	[ "How is the Canadian government not stepping in? Do they not own helicopters?", "They are helping and are using their helicopters", ">Do they not own helicopters?\n\nLiterally 2 seconds into this video there is helicopter, but then you DID watch the video?", "This person is not with the Canadian military. But then you DID watch the video?", "Its still a helo though isnt it? If a disaster is big enough everyone pitches in, not just stand around with their arms folded going 'well when is the govt. gonna give me stuff'. Govts have finite resources.", "Doesn't make much sense. If you send donations, they won't get there until the road re-opens, and then they won't need the donations since there's plenty of help on dry land.\n\nThey really just need a boat.", "Send in water purification units, then they can sort their own water. \n\nAlways request a wind sock for a temporary helicopter pad, and lights if possible, it means the pilots can make better judgments for landing, could be crucial, in medical emergencies. \n\nMaking sure each community has a radio for communication, is worth while, making sure each community gets a full emergency first aid kit, as accidents tend to happen in these situations. \n\nTampons and S.Ts, as they quickly run out.", "Cool. Just making sure that's the idea. I guess in America we used Kyle Rittenhouse to do the governments job. So private individuals can do the same work at the cost of 1000 per hour to run their equipment.", "I see you know more about the situation than the actual people living there. Wow.", "Um fucking racist much?", "Okay, I have a pallet of stuff to give them and I live in Arkansas. Realistically, how do I teleport it to them? Oh, I can't. \n\nDude has a point", "I don't see what Rittenhouse has to do with anything. You have a point, but bringing an unrelated topic up weakens your point", "Probably cheaper and more efficient than the government system anyway.", "Fuck off.", "I went out a few weeks back and picked up a couple hundred in basic medical supplies to hand out to the homeless around our local area. Basically three full households of medication, basic hygiene products for at least 3 people (including feminine hygiene products). I'd love to toss that in a box and ship it to Canada, but I'm worried even if it goes first class international, it may not get there in time. They mainly stated a need for fuel, water, feed for their herd in case the winter is bad, generators if the one they're working on doesn't work out. I'd still be willing to ship this box out if the tribe wouldn't get it until then. Main thing is how do we help get these supplies onto one of those helicopters? Where are the Nicomen Nation located in Canada? How bad are local shortages in the area?\n\nI live in Florida, US. Going to try and reach out to the person that created this video to see if there's something people outside of Canada and the immediate area can do. I'll edit this comment if I get a reply. Winters can be rough and even though they have meats, eggs, cheese, and hay stocks with some things in the works, things happen. Weather gets worse than expected, emergencies happen when your only option is to he airlifted out, etc.\n\nEdit: [Bradley has posted a fly over of the bridge on his Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/p/CWga5mHPs_5/?utm_medium=copy_link). I'm going to keep checking in to see what else is posted. The waters are murky, fast moving. The terrain around the road is covered in some snow and from what they mentioned in the video, they're expecting additional storms, though it probably won't hit them.", "Teleport them a boat.", "In the video, they mentioned that they had some reflectors to put down in the field, so they at least have that. Wind sock is probably a good idea. Definitely lights so they can increase how many flights they can make if needed. I reached out to Bradley to see if I could find a way to either ship a huge box of some medical and hygiene supplies up to him to fly over to them or find some other way to help out. Wish I were closer to the area.\n\nIf anyone is going to help, please do not forget about the needs of women. Pads and tampons are a must and from what I've learned is that people overlook feminine hygiene products. Best to go with pads as many women and young girls do not use tampons.", "Or use the other bridges and drive it.", "Canadian forces, SAR, and provincial teams have a large amount of resources, and personnel deployed to the area. \n\nThey are continually flying resources and providing rescue services 24/7 depending on the weather. \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5RSVYtLI9k\n\nThe size of the disaster region in BC covers an area larger than, Maine, VT, NH, MA, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana combined. It is a mountainous area with all major roads to Vancouver cut off (a couple have been partially re-opened) as well as countless smaller roads to smaller communities being simply eradicated. The focus has been in getting the primary highways and railroads back in action so they can actually get to the smaller towns and areas by land to start repairs there.\n\nTo give you an idea of some of the roads/highways, it's not just one part of a highway or road washed out, in many places it is miles of highways simply gone: \nhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CWga5mHPs_5/?utm_medium=copy_link\n\nMeanwhile... citizens and pilots in BC have been stepping up to help bring supplies to isolated communities using private helicopters and, where available, planes. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE9lsThbaQk\nhttps://twitter.com/BradleyFriesen/status/1462628154934120448\n\n\nBut thanks for being an ignorant cunt about it.", "Pardon my ignorance but what are S.Ts", "Sorry, they are sanitary towels.", "Helicopters don’t operate in the dark generally so they don’t need lights at all. Wind socks aren’t that useful.", "This is possibly the most wrong statement I’ve ever seen. They are on a bench, above the highway. The highway is wiped out in both directions in multiple places on either side.\n\nThen, the bridge onto and off their property is wiped out. They can not leave for minimum 4 weeks. They don’t need a boat. You’re gonna ride a boat down the Thompson then Fraser above Hells Gate?\n\nThey need supplies each week.", "Google Hells Gate. You’re gonna boat them supplies? We are moving them by helicopter", "You were right. These people have no clue for what it’s worth.", "Wasn't me who said the boat thing. When I said \"dude has a point\", I was agreeing with him on the logistical nightmare that the situation is, not so much that a boat will be a good solution. \n\nBoats might help navigate the river, but you're right, you're not gonna transport supplies reliably via boat in that area", "That’s what this whole thing is now, a logistics nightmare in the middle of a supply chain nightmare. It’s gonna be a rough winter.", "They could just get on a boat and go to where it's dry and all the supplies are for a month. The house will still be there when they get back. It's not like it will be looted.", "Okay. Let’s just let their 18 head of cattle, 6 horses, ducks, geese, chickens, goats, dogs, cats etc fend for themselves? \n\nGot this all figured out, donchya?", "You're so sure of yourself. Sure, so everyone has to stay where there's no food. Like when there's a fire and nobody evacuates.\n\nHow about a few people who drop food for the animals and the rest go where the supplies are? Then the kids can go to school, get medical care, etc. Instead we'll make the whole world come to them and add to the risk - now that's stupid.", "Fuck we are lucky you’re just some random cunt on the internet, not someone in charge of logistic and planning, loading people onto boats into raging rivers full of trees and debris…", "LOL! You silly concern troll. Raging is what a river does. When a valley floods, it's more like a huge lake. You should look at the [photos](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/17/pacific-north-west-floods-storm-british-columbia-washington-state) to familiarize yourself.\n\nIn case you didn't figure it out yet, I really don't give a shit what happens. I'm sure they'll survive. It happens every year in the midwest. Now go troll someone your own age - I assume 12.", "Ha ha. Familiarize? You mean like, talk to the people? That’s my video. I’m the pilot bringing them supplies.\n\nNice picture of the flooded Fraser valley, 70 miles down stream. You should look at [the photos of the river below their property.](https://www.google.com/search?q=thompson+river+rafting&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS974CA974&hl=en-US&prmd=imnxv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyj9rxorr0AhVoJzQIHcHuAykQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=428&bih=751&dpr=3 ) The Thompson River. Give them boats, you dumb fuck. Ha ha." ]	33	videos	Nicomen Nation has been cut off. They need donations until the road reopens
https://youtu.be/agvibm7Wqy4	/r/videos/comments/qza73z/kid_rock_dont_tell_me_how_to_live_official_video/	[ "Trigger alert. 😂", "Trash", "Older Kid Rock gets, cringier this shit gets. I mean... it was cringe at the start but never anticipated it'd be exponential growth as time went on. Also, get that slayer shirt off the guitarist. No need to allow a vastly better band featured in this garbage.", "I wish posts could have negative karma.", "Pretty wack.", "Don’t take offense to the lyrics. It’s only a song.", "What a whiny bitch. Also same goes for you op. Go back to /r/conservative to bitch in your safe space.", "Make sure to take photos of your participation trophy to post in r/pics 😂 only someone with a wall full of them would take the time to comment instead of just passing by. Good work showing up Caleb!", "\"no, it's the children who are wrong\"", "What a weird supposition you proclaimed. Also nobody gets your retarded conservative memes.", "Of course not because they are based in reality. Not fantasy like you can have a penis and identify as a female or a thing called “systemic racism” that no one can tell you the definition of.", "This man was a son to millionaires and called Ritchie his entire life, literally Ritchie Rich. His parents supported his career until he finally got a contract, but he wants to go around calling other people Snowflakes and laughng about trophy awards.\n\n> But what gets lost in that portrait is the fact that Rock’s humble origin story took place on a luxurious estate in wealthy Macomb County, Michigan. Rock, whose real last name is literally “Ritchie,” grew up the son of millionaire William “Bill” Ritchie, who owned several lucrative car dealerships, and Susan Ritchie, who instilled in Rock “a spirit of philanthropy.” They raised Rock, who once claimed to be “straight out the trailer,” on six well-groomed acres, where he could pick fresh apples from his family’s personal orchard.\n> \n> According to a real estate article in the Detroit Free Press, when Rock’s “ancestral seat” went on the market in 2016, it asked for $1.295 million. The “neo-Georgian colonial” house spanned 5,628 square-feet (with a 1,811 square-foot lower level), and held four bedrooms, four bathrooms, an indoor Jacuzzi room, a “giant” fireplace, and two garages for the family’s five cars. If the house, dubbed “Apple Crest Farm,” ever seemed too cramped, a young Kid Rock could have taken a walk to the family’s large on-site guest house—or their private, two-stall horse stable and tack room, or their personal tennis court.", "K", "Lol great job on admitting the quiet part out loud. You idiots don't understand the buzzwords you throw around. 3/4s of you can't even define critical race theory, yet you act like experts on the subject. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.", "Hey just go ahead and inject something that has nothing to do with the current conversation so you can fist pump and feel like you did something. Great work!!! 😂\n\nI think it’s funny when wealthy white liberals explain racism myself. 😂 you guys love speaking for minorities and deciding what’s best for them.", "conservative 'art' top kek", "He’s gonna make a shitload off of a crappy song cuz morons want to own the libs. \n\nYeah, great song…..lmao!", "I'm not offended by the lyrics so much as I am by the grammar of \"ain't nobody gonna..\" which actually implies the opposite and \"somebody's gonna.\"", "Kind of like what TYT, MSNBC and CNN does. Twist reality to fit a narrative then call it news. Only Kid Rocks synopsis is a little more accurate in regards to current events in America.", "It’s a bad song. Sorry you’re a Nazi.", "You’d hate hip hop then. 😂", "Yeah I’m a Nazi. I support socialism and believe I should force my beliefs on people even with the use of violence or destruction and hyper focus on race with lies and exaggerations to divide people. Oh wait that actually makes me a progressive liberal. Who knew this whole time?!?!!!", "Slug from Atmosphere gets a free pass with it because he's not a tool lol", "Cope harder.", "Isn't this what you little babies call virtue signaling when your crying and pissing your pants about the evil MSM?", "We can officially add stupid to your list as well. 😂🤣😂🤣😂\n\nNazi", "Well I did say I was a progressive liberal! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣\n\nNazi", "You meantioned \"systemic racism\" and how no one can define it. Critical race theory and systemic racism are related.", "CRT is the discussion of law and how it’s history affects race currently. Yes people were using the wrong term but what they were referring to was a real thing. Children were being segregated and having group activities based on race and all kinds of other weird shit that you shouldn’t be doing with elementary school age children. \n\nYou are correct though. Most on the right were using the wrong term.", "This is what drives me crazy when talking about these issues with people who clearly have their minds made up. You use one offs and sensationalized examples of something and make it seem pervasively widespread. \n\n> Children were being segregated and having group activities based on race and all kinds of other weird shit that you shouldn’t be doing with elementary school age children. \n>\n\nChildren should be taught about race relations and the history of racial injustice. Do you think Germany avoids teaching and educating their youth on the horrific atrocities the Nazis committed? No, they start at a young age because that's the whole point of education.", "No. 6 year olds need to learn socialization and being friends not segregation and oppression and taking blame for stuff that has nothing to do with you because of how you were born.", "...bro the whole song is Kid Schlock crying about how triggered he is. \n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/OwJvux9.png", "Again, you are further proving how little you actually know about the subject. Have a good one.", "Garbage", "No shit. Where is that happening? You're just another culture warrior who doesn't read books, man, stop seeing sides and start looking deeper.", "Way to turn a quick scene you saw in the video into a shitty insult...", "How many sources do you need? I understand people with their head in the sand aren’t aware. I’d like to help you get educated if you’d like. No problem doing your research for you. Let me know. I can tie shoes if you don’t know how to do that either. \n\nhttps://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/parent-says-atlanta-elementary-school-segregated-students-us-department-education-investigates/ZKP6T2YNW5FGLF3XOQQTHRE6AQ/", "I thought I crushed it honestly. Then again I think that about all of my witty comments. I’m biased. Based and biased.", "Can anyone explain why conservatives blame milennials for participation trophies. Were we buying them for ourselves at 8 years old?", "Don't worry u/Brrr25 derives his online value from looking past cited sources (or saying \"I already know that\") and summarily calling his own victory to a debate by making a simple point that you can't change a fool's mind, while simultaneously but un-insightfully being fully incapable of ever changing his own mind, introspecting, or doing much of anything except quipping his own victories.", "You know there are actual Nazis out there again right? Calling someone with objectively bad music taste and questionable opinions regarding a global pandemic is a bit like crying Wolf. If we call everyone we disagree with a Nazi it loses its urgency when actual nazis are out there doing nazi shit.", "You’ve described 80% of Average Redditors. He’s definitely that.", "You weren’t impressed by his timely Milli Vanilli reference?", "Holy shit, OP could you be more sensitive? Gonna cry about your shit music taste?", "Someone please help me figure out why the tiff sounds so familiar. It's a note or two away from a really famous riff that I cannot place.", "ITS STRANGLEHOLD. It's almost exactly the same" ]	47	videos	Kid Rock - Don't Tell Me How To Live (Official Video) - ft. Monster Truck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwhBkoNK0g&zKJ	/r/videos/comments/qzaj0o/how_to_black_an_analysis_of_black_cartoon/	[ "Wait…I’m really confused", "A lot of people are black, because of no other reason for being black.... just sayin. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nYou don't put Black characters in a movie, people complain... mostly white people. You put Black people in a movie, people complain.... again... mostly white people.", "About what?" ]	3	videos	How To BLACK: An Analysis of Black Cartoon Characters
https://youtu.be/phagxOal7_A	/r/videos/comments/qzaq91/caddyshack_hat_scene_rodney_dangerfield/	[ "That brings back a laugh", "\"HEY Wang, this is the carpark what are you doing? \"", "\"Last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it.\"", "Hey Whitey, where's your hat?!", "Moose, Rocko, help the Judge find his checkbook\n!" ]	7	videos	Caddyshack - Hat Scene - Rodney Dangerfield
https://youtu.be/GWsqMyE30-0	/r/videos/comments/qzat3c/kill_the_irishman_time_to_clear_out/	[ "The only reason to really watch the movie. I found the rest of it pretty boring.", "I thought the whole movie was great. Many great scenes.", "I loved this movie. Whelp! Time for a rewatch.\n\nThe scene where he tells his boss to fuck himself was pretty great as well.", "Fuck this guy. He can have a party, but his neighbors can't?", "This guy probably beats his wife too" ]	5	videos	kill the Irishman 'time to clear out'
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/jimmy-tangos-fat-busters/2861295	/r/videos/comments/qzbr0j/jimmy_tangos_fat_busters_aka_ride_the_snake_snl_w/	[ "Ride The Snake", "ridethesnake", "Mirror plz...", "SCAN ME", "Used to make my friends crack up by performing this entire skit for them. I'm no Jim or Will, but I did my best!" ]	5	videos	"Jimmy Tango's Fat Busters" (aka "Ride the Snake") SNL w/ Jim Carrey
https://youtu.be/UudDyXIroJo	/r/videos/comments/qzcbk8/zuckerberg_gets_asked_a_question/	[ "All his money and he still looks like he cuts his own hair with a bowl over his head.", "Didn't really sound like a question though. Not that he isn't a robot.", "I want to know what they were warned about. That he has no social skills?", "That isn't a question, it's an entirely subjective opinion.", "Yeah, F-him....but this was a valid response. Probably his most \"human\" response I've seen.", "\\-\\_\\_-", "His programming." ]	7	videos	Zuckerberg gets asked a question
https://youtu.be/mPwZ_zlFfuY	/r/videos/comments/qzcpeu/florida_iguana_invasion/	[ "Lmao why do they have to tie them up like a gang of thieves", "Because they're herbivores! Didn't you watch the video?? ^^/s", "They're really good in coconut milk, wonder why they don't just hunt them.", "He explains it at the end of the video", "It's like something you'd expect to see on that episode when [the Simpsons did it.](https://youtu.be/3f5viRoaZNw) But here it is, in real life like Scooby Doo caught them.", "They are herbivores, but they have incredible jaw pressure and super sharp teeth, and super sharp claws. They also like to do alligator death rolls.", "Wild animals can carry parasites and iguana can carry salmonella.", "The whole schtick about \"They are not native, it's an invasive species\" is really curious.\n\nThere is no such thing as in \"invasive species\". Animals don't have countries, or borders, or RULES about where they are allowed to live or not.\n\nThey don't live in a certain country because they are SUPPOSED to live there, they live where they live because they can survive well there, or because their movement are limited by water, mountains etc. If we help them over the water or whatnot, then they are not limitedin that way any more.\n\nIf these iguanas can survive in Florida, then they can.\n\nThat's all there is to it.\n\nWanna talk about invasive species? How about humans?\n\nThere are no other invasive species. That's all in our silly little minds.", "What do they do with them after they catch them?", "Pardon friend, but you don't seem to understand what is meant by an invasive species. \n\nIt's about what kind of damage can be inflicted on an ecosystem when a thing that is not native to the ecosystem is introduced. It's not about them being able to live, it's about them being able to live too well. Native species usually have checks in place that prevents them from completely dominating an ecosystem. Non-native species, without a check, can claim every resource without anything to stop them. For example, Asian Carp can thrive in North American water ways. They end up breeding so fast that the ecosystem is overwhelmed. The food that would normally be plenty to support the native fish dwindles till the native fish can no longer survive and die out. It can even get to the point where the ecosystem can't survive. This can be devastating.\n\nHere are some resources for you to investigate if you would like to learn more. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species\nhttps://gizmodo.com/10-of-the-worlds-worst-invasive-species-5833022\n\nFor an example of the problems that can happen when a native species is removed, I would recommend this video. \nhttps://youtu.be/ysa5OBhXz-Q", "[Invasive species](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species) \n \n >An invasive species is an introduced organism that becomes overpopulated and negatively alters its new environment. Although their spread can have beneficial aspects, invasive species adversely affect the invaded habitats and bioregions, causing ecological, environmental, and/or economic damage. Sometimes the term is used for native species that become invasive within certain ecosystems due to human alterations of the environment. An example of a native invasive species is the purple sea urchin which has decimated natural kelp forests along the northern California coast due to the historic overhunting of its natural predator, the California sea otter.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "if you even remotely care about the preservation and restoration of natural ecosystems, you would understand how utterly ignorant this comment is.", "Wild boars carry diseases as well, and you can eat those. Just demands testing and proper cooking.", "This video is a bit more exciting to watch:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GXegkPbm5E", " I didn’t watch, but can I assume they were all driving Taco Trucks? ;)", "You should really learn why they are called that. There is a pretty big reason for it lol. You obviously missed the entire point.", "Just cook it.\n\nIguana is good to eat.\n\nBuy an air gun and just start popping em.", "It's a catch and release sort of deal! /s", "I, for one, welcome our new lizard overlords.", "The thumbnail cracks me up. Like they made an arrest bust", "Kind of annoyed that they didn't explain what they do with them. I doubt they are relocating \"fifty in one clutch\".", "Speak for yourself, I hunt and eat them all the time", "How do you prepare them? What part of the world?", "I also eat crap", "did you watch the video?", "shout out to Trapper Mike!", "You used non-native and invasive interchangeably, and I wish that Gizmodo article did a better job differentiating between non-native and invasive, because non-native is a super broad category of species that include plants and animals that have no appreciable impact on the ecosystem. To be invasive it has to be harmful to the ecosystem in some way, like by outcompeting for resources or having no natural predators to keep the population from completely taking over. Plenty of non-native species are harmless because they didn't evolve to live in that environment in the first place. For instance, a [Japanese Maple](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_palmatum) that I plant in my front yard has no hope of taking hold in an environment with native trees that grow 10x its size. A lot of our crops are non-native to the regions where they are grown as well.", "Desktop version of /u/Raspikan's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_palmatum>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "I never said I eat crap tho, sry", "Yeah so you need to soak the shit out of it in apple cider vinegar for a couple of hours if it’s from a male(sows are better for eating), then treat it as pulled pork. \n\nI bring it to potluck/parties when available and everyone seems to like it.\n\nThis guy is an idiot honestly, saying that people don’t hunt them for food. Good luck finding public land that has hogs and people that don’t run dog teams to hunt them. What a Reddit moment.", "Good point! Thanks for the correction!", "I ate while hog in France last year, and it was absolute fire.", "I know that public hunting land is mobbed 24-7 for hogs. What do YOU know?", "And that’s how I know you have no idea what you are talking about" ]	33	videos	Florida Iguana invasion

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