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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-c4cd_Lm-Q	/r/videos/comments/qzd0zt/jim_discovers_latkas_cookies_are_made_with/	[ "why would you copy/paste a comment from youtube here...are you a real person or is this a bot?", "I think Danny Devito almost lost it when Christopher Lloyd snorted the cookie.", "...wow, old TV was bad if this is the best they could do.", "Like your opinion when nobody claimed it was the best anything? 👌", "I definitely need to watch this show properly. Never seen more than bits and pieces here and there but they’ve always been brilliant.\n\nAlso, this came up on my recommended the other day! The Algorithm has decreed that we all watch this now, huh?", "Just like your parents if you were the best they could do.", "Coca Leaves aren't cocaine.", "Man, ive never seen this show. Super weird to see those two on a sitcom together", "They can be chewed though.", "4 years later he has grey hair forever", "You should definitely watch this show. One of the best episodes is when Jim gets his drivers license.", "Slow down.", "you'd be surprised how many things can be chewed", "One. Of. The. Best. Episodes...", "It's on Hulu and absolutely worth watching. Also includes Judd Hirsch, Andy Kaufman, and a young Tony Danza", "Hold me closer, Tony Danza.", "Can you chew me, Greg?", "People use to be much happier and easier to laugh, I feel bad for kids like you today.", "When I heard his name, Latka was usually my first thought, [but now my mind defaults to this, lol.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lU-NmcfIEI#t=11m40s)", "good riddance to laugh tracks, will never miss thee", "Taxi was filmed in front of a live audience", "Christopher Lloyd sitting down is almost as tall as Danny Devito standing up.", "Some say he saw the people under the stairs.", "do you guys remember one episode of Taxi where a younger employee comes back after having failed at ... football tryouts(?) and the denni devito character wants to give him a piece of his mind for leaving but then this big fella argues with devito and devito then just says \"Welcome back kid!\".", "DeVito is just barely keeping it together in this scene." ]	25	videos	Jim discovers Latka's cookies are made with cocaine (Taxi, 1981)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzdbld/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzdbld/deleted_by_user/	[ "License plate and vehicle coincidentally matches police description from Waukesha", "The car he has at 0:04 and 0:38. I think I saw that EXACT CAR in another video I saw earlier today..", "Why is every one of these songs identical? Some douchehat grunting about shooting people.", "If he doesn't plead guilty in the arraignment/Pre-trial phase and decides to go to trial. His music videos could be in court for evidence.", "Simple people like simple things.", "Haha didn't take long for them to pull that video.", "unavailable lololololol his youtube was removed", "Can't wait for the charges to be dropped instantly", "I see that! 😳" ]	8	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOHkRk00iI8	/r/videos/comments/qze6bj/boston_celtics_fan_dancing_to_livin_on_a_prayer/	[ "This guy epitomises what both is good and also very unlikeable about seppos.", "Old video", "What's a 'seppo'?", "Seppo, short for septic tank and which is rhyming slang for yank.", "Ah, I see.\n\nThanks.", "Yass werk Chad", "OH, now I see..." ]	7	videos	Boston Celtics fan dancing to Livin' on a prayer
https://youtu.be/Edp_xjo-v_s	/r/videos/comments/qzek5a/simon_pegg_does_four_beatles_impressions_in_12/	[ "Pffh. I could do them in 10 seconds.", "You're giving me Patrick Bateman vibes.", "Guess you never heard of the Winchester", "Because you sound like you're giving a monologue about a fairly average movie before cutting up Jared Leto with an Axe...", "Okay have fun with that.", "[\"One note, donk and they put it in the computer\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4EcRPlaXoQ)", "Two videos at the top with Simon Pegg. New movie coming out or something?", "His John was startlingly good, his Paul was also terrific; I thought his George sounded too much like John, and Ringo just sounded like a generic Beatle voice. Still, that's 2 more than I could do!", "Yeah his Ringo is mediocre at best but his Lennon is amazing", "You're like dollar store Patrick Bateman.", "The interns have a quota to meet", "Don't you have some video tapes to return?", "Thank you for this", "And we eat it all up and ask for seconds", "Simon Pegg has a good knack for different voices and accents. I was listening to the Audibles version of World War Z and was surprised Simon Pegg voiced the character Grover Carlson." ]	15	videos	Simon Pegg does four Beatles impressions in 12 seconds
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzg65k/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzg65k/deleted_by_user/	[ "So new pets soon?", "I want one so bad, they're so floofy and cute!", "I know a domesticated silver fox. He's 65, Spanish, and has got more delicious with age like a vintage wine. Yum yum" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvZBGJkbeTE	/r/videos/comments/qziah3/kid_wins_talent_show_dancing_to_michael_jacksons/	[ "Kid's pretty damn good.", "This was such an accurate impression that at the end he grabbed a freshman and ran away with him.", "I love this white, 7-foot tall MJ!", "I knew the crowd would go nuts with the Moonwalk, and they did. Nice job, kid.", "This is like 15 years old", "And still good." ]	6	videos	Kid Wins Talent Show Dancing to Michael Jackson's Billie Jean
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzioky/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzioky/deleted_by_user/	[ "Dracula!", "That's wonderful. I have to read, \"The Pillars of the Earth\" again.", "What's a plain walkthrough of Whitby Abbey doing this high on /r/videos? lol\n\nAny locals that haven't been during the light festival that was on a few weeks ago should go btw It's pretty cool to see the Abbey lit up in different colours.", "Make sure you go to the magpie cafe in the town below after your visit, I'm just a lowly American but they had the best fish and chips I've ever eaten in my life. I visited about 15 years when I was a little kid but I'll never forget that meal", "I live in the UK and for me it's weird to see something like this high up on reddit. Don't get me wrong, Whitby's lovely and the Abbey is kind of famous because of Dracula but honestly, there's literally a medieval Abbey around every corner on this island, I guess in the US there aren't many man made structures that date back that far but due to the commonality of old buildings in the UK I guess I just don't have the same reaction.\n\nI wonder if Egyptians feel the same way about pyramids ?", "seems a bit drafty tbh", "I was there 15 years ago as a 17 year old.\n\nThe magpie was the best fish and chips in the UK back then with the queue for a table going down the street. But not anymore. Times have changed I'm afraid.", "Yeah i was thinking the same thing haha, i guess we are just used to it? If you like old churches you will love england i suppose, york has a huge once right in the middle of the city and even my lowly town has a pretty old one", "It's just down the road from me. [Got this shot last month while it was lit up at night.](http://imgur.com/a/pGHUaI6)", "I feel like this part of our heritage is rotting away. what happened to living with reverence and majesty?", "And chocolate box villages and towns", "I was not there 15 years ago as a 9 year old", "Should put a nice big Tesco's there", "It costs £12 to see this.... Me and my girlfriend hopped the little wall at the side to go and see\n\n£12 just to walk around that in the howling wind", "Any videos taken on the english countryside should not be allowed to use windcovers for their mics, so you get a real idea of what it is like there.", "Nothing happened to it, it's just a lifestyle that exclusively belongs to the upper class.", "the west used to have this", "your not from Selby by any chance?" ]	18	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKunJO35Od0&t=5s	/r/videos/comments/qzitk3/is_veritasium_wrong_about_electricity/	[ "He's not wrong, he's just not completely correct. This was discussed heavily the last time it was posted.", "A few of his video communicate questionable truth for the sake of click baity titles.\n\nIt's sad considering that a lot of his videos are great.", "There are many videos calling him out recently..", "He's a big name that gets lots of views while trying to communicate complicated topics to the masses. It's easy to make minor mistakes and people will call you out as quickly as possible to garner the attention.", "The downvote brigade made this very informative video disappear from /r/videos ...\n\nYes, the light only \"lights up\" in the sense that electromagnetic radiation reaches it in 1m/c [seconds] but the way Veritasium presents it is misleading to say the least.\n\nThis video presents the information in the correct way, and it's sad it's getting downvoted.", "It's all in good fun and to be better, no hate should be involved in this discourse.", "well he’s a big name putting out these views to also garner attention (and $$$), so there’s nothing wrong in calling him out in a constructive way. if anything, claiming to make science videos is an open invitation for criticism — that’s how science is honed, developed, and revised.", "The collision between the internet, truth and peoples opinions can be a cancer. I LOVE that channel! But what the heck, no amount of downvotes can make something true or untrue. Its science, not voodoo. The beauty of the scientific method is that I can tell you that I got result X from doing an experiment and if you can replicate the same conditions a lightyear away, you should get the same result.\n\n The only questionable part on that comes if we were to consider the potential theory that different regions of space/time have different properties which influence matter and physics which would mess with the experimental data.", "This!, I KNOW that Derek will put out a video in response to all of the criticism eventually. Chances are he will either fix his own mistakes or clarify on it respectfully. There is nothing wrong with admitting that you are wrong or off and admitting to it can only give one more respect in the science community..\n\nEdit: Derek, I hope you are reading this! If this comment catches your eye: THANK YOU for inspiring and teaching generations of potential scientists!!!", "I want to be clear that I don't think it's wrong that he receives criticism for mistakes of this nature. The very basis of science is to question and be wrong, if you're afraid of being wrong you shouldn't work in science, or science communication.", "Also funny is the fact that Veritasium is highly likely to come out with a video soon correcting his mistakes.", "I watched about 2/3 of this video, so apologies if it's covered in the part I didn't watch:\n\nI think the flaw in this video is that the closed-circuit status would also propagate at the speed of light, so you could break the circuit 300000km away and the switch could still turn the light on and off for a second before the broken circuit info reaches the switch and bulb.", "Maybe I missed it, but in both videos shouldn't the correct answer be d/c seconds, not 1m/c? \n\nd is the distance to the load and c is the speed of light", "Yeah, the distance between the battery and the light bulb is 1m, so d/c = 1m/c", "Okay to the first assumptions about \"we are using a car battery\" and the zero resistance - I think that's a very literal read on the situation seeing as it's clearly a prop, and derek states this is a thought experiment. So I'm already feeling like this video is a bit in bad faith.\n\nWhen he posited the idea of breaking the circuit propagating change faster than light - my first response was \"well no, that wasn't how it was explained to work at all!\"\n\nAfter following that thread of something not in the veritasium video being incorrect, this video mentions that actually- the circuit doesn't need to be closed. The scale of the wires is enough to create the field that turns on the bulb.\n\nAm I not understanding some nuance in the science here? I feel like he just said \"Veritasium is wrong\" and the re-explained the same premise from the video using different language.", "Where did he get his assumption from that the light would turn off after 1m/c seconds if the circuit was broken? I didn't see/hear any evidence for that, he just goes \"this is the only timing in our assumption so we'll just use this,\" and then he bases the rest of the arguments off this random assumption.", "Electricity in a wire travels far slower than the speed of light. I'm not really sure what he's even talking about here.", "Cause its not just \"the speed of light\" its \"the speed of causality.\"", "The point is he didn't make a \"mistake\", he just presented the facts in an extremely misleading way, which is becoming a habit.", "The misleading bit is the phrase \"light up\" and the implication that the (closed) circuit is making the light \"light up\". The original author does mention both these points but glosses over them, which creates a very, very misleading idea.", "The most misleading thing about the video is that he's interchangeably talking about current and electromagnetic radiation. He should have made it clear that the current doesnn't reach the bulb in 1m/c, but some tiny fraction of the elctromagnetic radiation from the very edge of the wires near the battery radiates toward the bulb.\n\nThe way he phrases it is misleading, even though he adds two tiny asides specifying what he actually means.", "Funny how you were downvoted but what you are saying is literally true.", "Pretty much, he used some terms and explanations interchangeably when in reality they aren’t as well as saying things in a “confusing and mis-informative” way. Doesn’t surprise me tho, lately he’s been all about clickbait, with the changing of titles and thumbnails every minute his video is out. He was a good educational content creator, but money got the best of him 🤷🏻‍♂️." ]	23	videos	Is Veritasium Wrong About Electricity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV76pIFAVB4	/r/videos/comments/qzj4c1/killer_whale_chases_a_guy_on_a_surfboard/	[ "Think this is less \"chasing a guy\" and more the whale thinking \"wtf is this, and can I eat it? Oh it's a human with a big stick...time to to leave.\"", "Paddle board, dawg", "Nah, that's a whale.", "He just wants to talk to you about your car's warranty.", "In fairness to him they are both black and white so you can see why he got confused.", "It may seem scary to have an apex predator swim around you like this, but wild orca are actually really safe. [There has only been 1 documented case of a person being bitten by a wild orca.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whale_attack#Incidents_with_wild_orcas) This guy was just checking the surfer out.", "Killer whale attack \n \n [Incidents with wild orcas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whale_attack#Incidents_with_wild_orcas) \n \n >There are a few recorded cases of wild orcas threatening humans. However, there have been no reliably verified fatalities.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "“No reliably documented fatalities” or just zero survivors to tell the tale. The orca wouldn’t have it any other way", ">\"wtf is this, and can I eat it? Oh it's a human with a big stick...~~time to to leave~~.\"\n\n\"humans stupid, why don't they use their tails to swim, they even have two of them\"...", "Be wary of the giant sea creature that has \"no victims\".", "Ocean mammals are drawn to human craft. Usually because they are interested in what we are doing.", "i think its mostly that killer whales havent acquired the taste for tasty fatty human yet. or maybe it wasnt hungry.\n\nbecause eating that dude wouldve been the easiest meal that whale has had in a long while.", "Which is actually very nice of the whale, because humans have killed plenty of Orcas.", "Really? I would have thought he wanted to talk to me about wether or not I'm using one of my legs and if he can just borrow it.. for stuff..", "orca, paddle board" ]	15	videos	Killer whale chases a guy on a surfboard
https://youtu.be/cYtpGJ-p2rI	/r/videos/comments/qzjavv/how_to_cook_your_turkey/	[ "7/10, dude is making lots of pointless errors in an attempt to be flashy and macho. But he's right on with that flame broil at the end, that's some good shit.", "The doo has like 18 words in his vocabulary. Chicken still looked decent though!", "C’est Bon", "Vertical video. 480p. Persistent Adam Sandler impression.\n\nI'll pass." ]	4	videos	How to cook your turkey
https://youtu.be/Ihf8aSX5AFI	/r/videos/comments/qzjdvw/skyrim_anniversary_edition_but_youve_already/	[ "~~I believe this is from Rat Race. He is lethargic and constantly falls asleep everywhere he goes.~~\n\nNope it's Mr. Bean, my bad.", "FeelsBadMan. I play this game every 6 months ago but nothing will capture its original magic - why aren't there any other first-person RPGs that have such a stunning world which is fun to explore? Witcher 3 is 3rd person and pretty grim at times, Fallout isn't fantasy. WoW looks like shit.", "Yes, its from the original mr bean series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind\\_the\\_Baby,\\_Mr.\\_Bean", "not quite - from this episode of Mr Bean. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind\\_the\\_Baby,\\_Mr.\\_Bean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_Baby,_Mr._Bean)", "Same. I play from the start a out once every year for a few days or weeks, and I try to do completely different directions that what I've done in the past... last time I stopped because I had somehow glitched my house where I kept everything stored and couldn't get access to it anymore and all my saves were after the glitch.", "Kingdom Come: Deliverance is a good time.", "Hear, hear! I had a blast with this game.", "I've only played 1 version and that was all I needed. How about TES6, guys?", "TES6? You mean Skyrim: the special anniversary deluxe version?", "Chef's kiss", "I agree, but I like to think that was for nazeem", "It's a shame it hasn't gotten a PS5 patch.", "Combat is novel too.", "I think since we've had Skyrim for soooo long that people are going to burn through ES6 really fast.\n\nUnless they do something really different (new) with the gameplay people aren't going keep playing it long term.", "Play Morrowind.", "If you haven't yet, play Oblivion. You'll have to mod the absolute shit out of it, but you can have it look near Skyrim quality. Also, the quests are arguably better than TES5!", "Whats the difference in this version compared to the other ones?", "This one has a Bean in it.", "The helmet at the end really caught me. Great stuff.", "I bought it like a dummy and it was just creation club mods I've yet to encounter ingane", ">why aren't there any other first-person RPGs that have such a stunning world which is fun to explore?\n\nWhy would there be? There's Skyrim if you want that.\n\nThe fantasy setting has been done to *death* anyway, it's so unimaginative... Why not a steampunk first person RPG? Or near future (no, Cyberpunk doesn't count, come on)? Or just anything other than another D&D ripoff or a post-apocalypse/zombie one?\n\nFun fact: Monkey Island was made to be piratey specifically because the creator hated (hates?) the fantasy setting, as it had already been done to death even then.", "Why would there be? Because that's what a lot of people want...clearly since Skyrim is one of the most prized RPGs ever and people go back to play it all the time?", "TES6? Oh yea you mean:\n\nThe\n\nExtra\n\nSkyrim\n\n6th Edition", "It actually adds 74 bits of creation club content, over the course of a new play thru I'm still discovering new additions in game.", "People don't want something new, they want Skyrim again, and that's exactly why only a masochist would make another. It's like going on stage as a new, up-and-coming rock band when AC/DC was your warm-up act. The expectations are so high you're set up to fail.\n\nAnd besides, people keep buying Skyrim again and again and again, so why waste the money? Instead, they could make something new and \\*gasp\\* different and maybe capture the imaginations of a different set of people, people who aren't drawn to the fantasy setting. Like CDPR did with Cyberpunk... Well, tried to, anyway. Otherwise, you can pull a Mass Effect: Andromeda and kill the series.\n\nIt's the same \"issue\" that GTA has: people keep playing and paying for the last one, why waste the money on the new one? So they made RDR 2 instead, and tried to make it the same sort of cash cow that can be perpetually milked.\n\nBut it's all irrelevant anyway, no game will \"capture its original magic\", because you're 10 years older than when Skyrim came out. You don't have the capacity to be sucked in like that anymore, get used to it.", "I never understood why people love Skyrim so much. It has so little content compared to the other TES games. You can play through the game either one handed/two handed/bow/magic and talk to the maybe 5 or so quest givers per town.", "Maybe, but that's a very cynical way of looking at it. You said yourself that a lot of devs try something new and fuck it up, and you're almost implying that when Rockstar make a new GTA they won't sell another 100m copies. They will, because that's what people want more of. The old saying of keep it simple, stupid applies to games. People don't want too much of a change to a formula that works. I guarantee if a dev made a vast open world, epic fantasy game that had some tweaks to the Bethesda formula but remained similar, people would love it.", "Because graphical fidelity sells. \n\nA normal Joe doesn’t wanna look at morrowind animations and models in 2021 or even oblivion, regardless of how good their contents are.\n\nAnd most players are normal joes", ">You said yourself that a lot of devs try something new and fuck it up,\n\nI did? I don't think I did. Cyberpunk was the only one you could describe like that, but there it wasn't the new game style that they fucked up on, it was the development. RDR and LA Noire turned out fine coming after GTA IV, for example.\n\n>and you're almost implying that when Rockstar make a new GTA they won't sell another 100m copies. \n\nRight, but it won't be like GTA V. Remember IV, how it was a total departure from the preceding 3-VC-SA trio? Realistic, grim, gritty, heavy? Yeah, there's a reason they did that: there was no way to follow the masterpiece that was SA. And of course there was Bully between those two as well.\n\n>I guarantee if a dev made a vast open world, epic fantasy game that had some tweaks to the Bethesda formula but remained similar, people would love it.\n\nThey did, it's called the Witcher, you mentioned it earlier, and there are [dozens more](https://store.steampowered.com/tags/en/Fantasy/#p=1&tab=TopSellers). If there's one thing there's no shortage of, it's fantasy (J)RPGs.\n\nEdit: Hell, you can count the non-fantasy games in [this](https://www.ign.com/lists/top-100-rpgs/) top-100 list on two hands max. Mass Effect, Fallout, a Star Wars, a Pokemon or two, System Shock, and Deus Ex.", "Avowed will come out eventually, likely before Elder Scrolls 6.", "Some people like it but it's more for people who like sim games than those who like skyrim/fallout.", "I may be one of the only people who've never played Skyrim but do own some version of it on PC somewhere. Is it worth buying this new version or just modding whatever vversion I already have?", "Just because a lot of people played Skyrim doesn’t mean it was some amazing RPG. The combat is awful and the dungeons/quests were incredibly repetitive.", "I don’t get it either but people do like modding the shit out of it. To me, that doesn’t mean anything when I’ve seen every place that game has to offer. \n\nThey should at the very least be pumping out expansions to justify the cost of these new editions and constant ports. This is far more egregious than a new COD every year. At least those are somewhat new games and with actual new additions.", "HAHAHA!", "Starfield looks promising.", "With all the times they've shoved Skyrim down our necks, TES6 is gonna have to be REALLY exceptional to live up to it. \n\nThough I'm worried it's just gonna feel like Skyrim, just more of it.", "I own three versions, have modded them all, and one day I'm going to finish one of them. Hopefully the VR version, which is pretty awesome actually. You know, when it doesn't make me motion sick.", "There's an extra pixel this time.\n\n\nSeriously gamers, if you want quality stop supporting these shitty companies who nickel and dime you into spending more money on unfinished product or product they slightly changed to tell you, \"look, this time is real different I swear^^^^^^^^fuckingidiots .\"", "If you'd like to use your Septims wisely, just mod the everliving hell out of what you've got. The new release is just paid mods added to the game.", "Play Enderal. Full conversion mod of Skyrim with an entirely original map, quests, and plot. Honestly much better than the base game", "I think peak “novel play through” for me was when I decided to explore the wood chopping mechanic, and spent weeks in Riverwood splitting wood to sell at the trader, sleeping at the inn or in the little campsite outside of the gates, and occasionally venturing into nearby woods to hunt. It was actually super peaceful. That area of the map around riverwood and falkreath is beautiful.", "Holy shit...I just realized Skyrim is the current Street Fighter 2", "And you'll fucking buy it won't you. And love it till you hate it.", "I think 2 is all you need. 1 version, and then the VR version. I had like a thousand hours in Skyrim but playing in VR was like playing Morrowind again for the first time.", "It has new quests, locations, items and other such stuff. It’s actually quite expansive compared to previous releases.", "the only version I keep thinking about is the VR one and even then I don't think it's going to compare to Blade & Sorcery...", "This is dumb", "I liked Kingdom Come, but it's more grounded in reality-ish. I like some dragons and magic in my fantasy.", "A note for anyone who wants to play it: The combat is brutal and the game is difficult. I don't recall if the first 1v2 you get into is before or after you're trained (I think after? you definitely did do archery at least).\n\nTrain the hell out of combat because this game doesn't fuck around.", "For real. As a lifelong fan of the series, the gaming engines in TES games (fallout games too) are fucking HORRIBLE. I mean Skyrim was janky as fuck when it came out 10 years ago, we just accepted it cuz of all the other good stuff in the series. Back when TES was basically the only AAA open world RPG in the neighborhood. But in 2021? I highly doubt Bethesda can compete with the open world titles of modern day by \"overhauling\" their engine from skyrim which was \"overhauled\" from oblivion which was \"overhauled\" from morrowind. They don't need to live up to Skyrim. They need to live up to the The Witcher 3, BOTW, EldenRing, whatever else is coming out in the next 20 years when TES6 will be released", "Play it in VR. It recaptures it.", "But why. Skyrim is trash.", "I think I was okay because I'd been playing Mount and Blade for like a decade by that point but, if you go in expecting to spam LMB like in Skyrim, you will just get decapitated.", "If you buy it, you get all the paid mods from the creation club. And then if you dont already own Skyrim SE you get skyrim SE. otherwise, just the paid mods.", "Do you get to the Cloud District very often? What am I saying, of course you don’t!", "Probably not. It took me a long time to learn that lesson, but Fallout 76 finally drilled it in. \n\nThe only downside is now any game I wait for seems to get spoiled in youtube titles.", "What's with the red kid's ride it cuts to a few times?", "Am I the only person who bought and played this once?", "As much novel as it is fucking hard. I can take out your common bandit but the moment i ran into those hungarian or whatevers that kidnap the noble you're hunting with best i could do is cheese them with arrows. You gotta faint the parry then faint and swing the sword then back then block then stab then swish swoosh your mouse in 5 directions, and then congrats, you hit them once through their blocks and parries. Repeat 20 times because they're in a full suit of armor.\n\nIn the fighting tournament i think i reloaded the save file 50 times before i gave up.", "I encourage you to continue to level your combat. It gets much better later on. Remember that you need to be fluid in your weapon knowledge. A fully plated soldier will shrug off a sword, but will get bludgeoned with a mace.", "Obsidian are making Avowed and InXile are rumored to be making a 1st person steampunk RPG.", "Game became 2000% less interesting when I realized that you can just stand in one spot the whole fight hitting perfect blocks and waiting for your ripostes to kill any enemies who swing at you", "What's that new space game they're working on right now... I hear they're rolling out a brand new engine for that thing. I hope that does well, and that they use it for the next Elder Scrolls title.\n\nIf it's going to be \"Skyrim: on our new space game engine!\" then I give up. They're already hanging on a loose thread with me because of all this shit, so that damn space game better kick some ass.", "Mod it for better leveling or go read a book on how to level properly or enjoy being stupidly weaker than everything around you. I love oblivion but that leveling system is complete ass. You are punished for using only the skills you actually want to use.", "If Avowed is to Skyrim what The Outer Worlds was to Fallout, then yeah no thanks.", "To be fair that was my reaction the first time playing as well.", "Talking base game with no mods. Morrowind is also kind of hard to get in to regardless of looks. The slow walking speed and the combat are some pretty big barriers to get past.", "AFAIK they are creating a new engine which their next game Starfield, and then TES6 will run on, and that's why it's taking so long to make.", "Skyrim meme about it getting rereleased keep popping up but do people even know how much release resident evil 4 had?", "In a boringcoaster", "-miss-\n\n-miss-\n\n-miss-\n\n-miss-\n\n-miss-\n\n-miss-\n\n-hit for 1 dmg-\n\n-miss-\n\n-miss-\n\nyou died\n\nyeah that riveting, revolutionary gameplay that was Morrowind. Let's also not forget that quest dialogue and normal dialogue would just stack on top of each other, resulting in you having to read a fucking short story's worth of text just to find \"go to the temple and kill the bad guy\".", "16x the detail\n\nExtra horse armor\n\nBugs as far as the eye can see", "Only works with 1 enemy at a time. On hardcore for me, and those poisoned arrows or night raids on the sleeping are requirements for 5+ bandit/Cuman camps.", "[The same youtuber has some info for you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28vvIQaqIs)", "The Shivering Isles DLC is so much fun! One of my favorite next to Dead Money from New Vegas.", "quicksaves", "How so?", "It better be. Usually the reason why it takes so long these days is they're still figuring out how to monetize it with micro transactions.", "Similar to Outland. Decent game, but it was no skyrim.", "Before he gets on the ride Mr Bean was 'taking care of' a baby and put it in that red kid's ride with a bunch of coins so it would run for a long time, giving Mr Bean the time to go enjoy himself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind\\_the\\_Baby,\\_Mr.\\_Bean", "> Act 2: The Kiddie Ride\n\n>Bean finds a Postman Pat kiddie ride and decides to put the baby inside to cheer him up; however, he then puts nine coins in it so it will play for a long time and keep the baby safe while Bean can go off and have fun on his own. Bean goes on a roller coaster, but quickly gets bored and falls asleep. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_Baby,_Mr._Bean", "Instead of pressing R2 to swing a sword, and holding the analog stick forward to charge someone, I literally run across the room with a real toy sword in my hand (with the controller taped to it) and physically swing at them with my actual arm. Instead of playing the game, you are the game.", "In this episode he is supposed to be watching a baby. Mr Bean is too selfish to miss out on rides so he puts the baby in that kid's ride so he can do his thing.", "they nickel & dime everyone (and release unfinished) largely because their base games costs haven't been adjusted for inflation - ever - we're actually paying some 50-60% LESS for AAA games than we did decades ago. that lack of sustainability forced them to rely heavily on microtransactions, pay-to-play, remakes and DLC because they don't make enough money up front. add to this the fact that many gamers only buy when they're on sale for 25-50% off, and you're paying peanuts to support an employee roster of many hundreds or thousands who work for 4-8+ years on a title.\n\ngod forbid a game cost $120+ for 30-100 hrs of almost Hollywood caliber gameplay (and sometimes thousands of hrs of replay-ability).\n\n\\[commence downvotes\\]", "I think the fallout 4 world is easily superior to Skyrim and it was absolutely wonderful to explore. Problem is its also pretty relentlessly depressing, so I keep replaying Skyrim because there's still a lot of natural beauty around and the overall experience is better.\n\nWell that and a lack of magic. Honestly I'll take a magic based RPG 9 times out of 10 over a sci fi based one.", "And that's different from oblivion or MW how?", "Wasn't even an interesting teaser. Like, what were they trying to show us, that they finally figured out how to render a respectable view distance in their landscapes??", "Starfield", "Relying on modders to fix.", "VR version is probably my favorite because of the new gameplay changes like VRIK, HIGGS, and Weapon Throw VR. So utterly satisfying to be able to throw daggers as a sneaky Assassin build.\n\nPancake mode, SSE is better because of the kerfuffle in the modding world caused by AE and old mods getting orphaned. Though TBF I play the game almost exclusively in third person with True Directional Movement these days. So much smoother, in terms of gameplay, than first person (and you actually get to see all those cool animations and outfit mods you add on your own character).", "No fucking way. They seriously released this shit again?!* I'm irrationally pissed by their audacity...", "Wait, so it's basically pre-modded? And... stable?\n\nThat's actually pretty worth it, I'm 29 now not 19 like at release, I don't have the time or energy for modding anymore lol.", "Starfield", "The dedication of the creator to run backwards through all these areas just to make the footage line up with Rowan Atkinson is something I wasn't expecting", "No, just because a bunch of people played it doesn't mean it's good.\n\n\nIt's an objectively fantastic fucking RPG by every conceivable metric. Picking flaws out on a 10 year old game doesn't make it shit, get over it.", "Mods my dude, mods.", "> To me, that doesn’t mean anything when I’ve seen every place that game has to offer.\n\nYou do understand that these mods literally add more places, right?", "Skyrim has better basic game play than the previous ones. You can also play it as relaxing game more easily.", "I spent a week listening to the patrician's big 7 hour Morrowind video review and I gotta say I have a newfound appreciation for the title and indeed the whole elder scrolls series after learning more.", "Boots of blinding speed + magic resist + the sign that grants magic resist 4hed\n\nAlright which one of you 6th house fanatics down voted me", "Honestly, I thought I used to hate RPG's since Skyrim was my first. A few years later and I cautiously tried Witcher 3 and loved it. Then I tried HZD and loved that, as well. I've now realized that I don't- in fact- hate RPG's. I hate Skyrim.", "The trick is to never care about or be excited for anything that hasn't already been released for at least a year. Even if it's your favorite developer ever. In fact, especially if it's your favorite developer ever. I learned that lesson a long time ago with Fable and Two Worlds. No more am I fooled into believing some developer has figured out how to accurately simulate every single atom each individually rendered in their RPG which is realer than real life ever was. Reading press release after press release of lies by hypemen with no talent for project management. Now I just patiently wait for classics to become classics and bust out the popcorn every time a new generation of gamers has their \"fable\" moment.", "I'm guessing they didn't pre ship cbbe though~~", "The sequel to Skyrim is hugely anticipated, but people got annoyed not hearing anything about it after so long. The only thing the teaser showed us was 'yes guys, we are working on it. We haven't dropped TES altogether'.", "\"We are working on it, and we have nothing to show whatsoever\"\n\nVery Star Citizen of them.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T\\_mgeJBtcAg", "Not really arguable at all... Skyrim's quests are pretty garbage and probably like 95% of them are just go into a crypt to retrieve item at the end of it.", "I legit lost it when he shushed Nazeem LMAOOO", "Yeah combat is rough in that one", "There are no other big open adventure games quite like it.", "That takes no time at all, developers have those strategies down pat.", "I got it last year during lockdown after years of everyone saying it was the greatest game ever. I played about an hour and it was so underwhelming that I just lost interest\n\nI don't understand why people still keep buying it", "I believe that was released in 2016 at e3. I remember that as well as age of empire 4 being announced and at least we got aoe4.", "Nah the Star Citizen move would be to sell you the \"game\" for $40, but it just includes one town square. Then every few months you can spend another $10-$50 on more parts of the game, until 2034 when you've spent $430,000 and it's still halfway done.", ">The fantasy setting has been done to death anyway, it's so unimaginative... \n\nIt's fantasy... you can do literally whatever you can imagine...", "This was one of things that I still don’t fully understand but find epically hilarious. I love how they did the same joke in the movie but he then messes with the ride controls as it goes dangerously crazy.", "True. Actually, even truer is that it just includes one JPG image of one town square. Not the real town square, that's cruel.", "Skyrim modding is also on a very different level now compared how it used to be. With wabbajack it's like modding minecraft really. You can just download full modpacks that work out the gate.", "I just can't get into this game. None of the characters are interesting or endearing. It's seems like people have more fun breaking the game and exploiting bugs or game rules to get super powerful.\n\nI'm looking at you potions to make you better at artificer and artifacts that make you better at potions.", "Oops guess we broke the modder fixes oh well", "The other ones feel old and dated even when they were just a year or two old.\n\nI think there's more quests in Skyrim than I'll ever be able to complete in a single campaign. I just fired it up the other day on the Switch and it's just as fun as playing the original game when it first released.\n\nThere's a ton of locations, gear, factions and loot to discover. It makes the clunky combat mechanics not really bother me.\n\nI tried to get into the other ES games when they were already a year or two old and the entire experience just seemed clunky and of course ugly.", "Cuz as we all know Nintendo got sued into bankruptcy for the Wii controllers back in the day", "I guess so. Skyrim is more of a \"Second Life\" sandbox experience to me than just a game. Sure, you play the main quest, cool. But like, 95% of stuff to do does not involve the main quest so none of it's really connected. You're just a dude running around adventuring as you please. That can go on forever with the right mods. No need to buy the game again though lol", "My favorite games are complex grand strategy games from Paradox. I think Skyrim is miles better than previous ES games.\n\nSo according to you I'm a normal Joe, yet I play games that are more complex than any game you play.\n\nWhat the truth really is, some people like a world that feels alive and some people like to roleplay instead. Roleplayers can stick with old ES games or old Fallout games and bitch about how popular Skyrim and FO4 are. It has absolutely nothing to do with how sophisticated you are. Thinking that actually makes you the exact opposite of sophisticated.", "Well if you go over to r/LowSodiumCyberpunk, lots of people will tell you that this linear shooter is the greatest game they ever played.\n\nBut in all seriousness, you should check out Gothic, Gothic II and even Gothic III (with community patches and whatnot). Also Morrowind (played with /r/OpenMW).", "Skyrim wasn't even that good, imo. it felt slightly empty and unfinished. And the UI was garbage. Compared to the previous Oblivion. \n\nI think most of the positive reviews were from people who had never played games like this before.", "Rowan atkinson really is a treasure.", "> It's an objectively fantastic fucking RPG by every conceivable metric.\n\nHoly shit big reddit moment here.\n\nAnyway, im not nitpicking a 10 year old game, I thought this on release too. Here is a thread from 9 years ago that had the same gripes as me. Shit combat, boring quests, and a hollow feeling world. \n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/mt7n6/disappointed_with_skyrim/", "The worst part about all of this is the next one is going to be a huge cash grab like other triple a these days. It will have a terrible release, be buggy as well, miss features previous games had and rub it in with microtransactions. \n\n:( sad days gamers live in, sad days.", "Your comment reminded me I need to play this again. Such a fantastic experience", "Fallout IV is also more for people who like sim games than it is for people who like fallout, now that you mention it.", "Yeah", "Ya, I liked morrowind but I never completed the main questline because I was given some incredibly shitty directions along the lines of \"go north of town until you reach a rock and then....\" \n\nAfter tracking back and forth looking for my goal for hours I decided I just wasn't having fun. \n\nPlus the levelling system was incredibly badly designed. \n\nPlus even with a modern machine and a raft of mods it feels like you're piloting a barrel on stilts when you're walking around.\n\nI tried it again recently and just got bored sifting through the stacks of text attached to each NPC looking for the hooks for the next step in questlines.", "I wanna live in a Skyrim house", "MACHO MADNESS SKY'S THE LIMIT!", "If you like rpgs it's worthwhile. Nothing ground breaking, but its fun.", "Do you mean Outward?", "From what I've seen, Elden Ring is doing a better job of being a Skyrim sequel than anything that Bethesda would care to put out.", "Morrowind has an insane amount of quests, items, skills, magics, locations, enemies, etc. You can build a character based solely off of alchemy for example. There are 8 more skills in Morrowind than in Skyrim and each skill provides unique advantages throughout the game. Skyrim even removed attributes like strength, agility, willpower, etc for some reason. Everything in the world is hand placed, every NPC is unique with their own name, every quest is different. Skyrim is filled with generic bandits and radiant quests that are the same thing over and over in the same dungeon layout, with each dungeon having the same loot chest at the end with a convenient exit. Alchemy and enchanting have been dumbed down to simple restore/fortify health/magicka/stamina instead of being able to make potions that can turn your character into a master swordsman or jump great distances or fly for a short time.", "Excellent.", "Yeah, except I’m pretty sure Skyrim paid for itself almost instantly. And despite the games not going up in price, the number of people buying and playing games is higher than ever. Therefore, they can sell more copies.", "It uses a new compiler which helps the base game operate more efficiently and helps every mod in the world break completely.", "Fine, I'll do it myself.", "Is there anywhere I can get an all-in-one dumb simple ELI5 guide to make Skyrim actually good looking without requiring anything heavier than a GTX 1070?\n\nLike simple mod set up and stuff.\n\nI got skyrim maybe 6 years after its release on PC and I was expecting so much more. I quit less than an hour in because the eye strain was so intense from how smudged everything looked.\n\nNow I’m too lazy to follow these 30 page tutorials to make Skyrim cool like everyone else’s.\n\nI don’t need UHD ray tracing, just some updated textures and filters that could pass as high quality in 2018", "Why bother?", "At that time, reading was quite popular, even in video games. The more detailed the dialogue, the higher praised the game was.", "I don't really see the correlation there. Besides, the games are famous for their modability, so there will (almost definitely) be endless content. Skyrim and Fallout are still regularly receiving multi-hour quests with active updates.", "Okay maybe you can lend some help here because I bought the game about a month ago or so and learned how to mod it and everything and did the basic essentials like the unofficial patch only to run into the exact problem you mentioned and I quit playing no more than 40 minutes after getting out of the tutorial sewer because everything was shitting on me.\n\nWhat do you recommend to make it easier? I thought about dropping difficulty but I feel like I shouldn’t have to unless that’s a simple solution to my problem.", "Ah that's great, I didn't see the baby in there :D", "I second this. I played Enderal last year and it was an incredible experience, and as far as story goes its definitely better than Skyrims main story", "Yeah, I got that vibe too. Without some powerful updates to combat and a load if other things, TES6 is gonna suck.\n\nWhy can't a mage combine spells?", "If the version you own is Skyrim Special Edition (or SSE) for short, then this isn't worth getting. If you own the original version of Skyrim, then this may be worth picking up.", "My friend calls that \"The Elder Strolls\" approach. Ignore everything to do with the main quest, and just wander around being some random dude in Skyrim.", "Try League of Legends!", "When you level your skills you need to level all the minor skills that go with the skills you chose as major skills at the same time. Then when you sleep you will level. This will allow you to spend 5 points on your stats instead of 3. Missing 2 points may not sound like a big deal but after 30 levels that's 60 less stat points you have. This problem is compounded by the monsters scaling with you level and the fact there is no way to go back and regain thoes points. I would reroll with a leveling Mod like oscuros oblivion overhaul or watch tutorials for leveling on youtube.", "It's been fun for me to play again. I've never been HUGE into mods but having the creation content is really nice.\n\nStill end up having to mod it though. Can't believe they didn't add 144fps support (it's capped at 60 without mods) and the default inventory is still complete shit.\n\nI don't know how bad mods where \"in the olden days\" of skyrim but it's always been easy for me. Using some kind of mod manager I've had very little issues.", "I've fought 10+ bandits at once by just backpedaling and perfect blocking, it still gives you the perfect block icon for people who swing at you even if you're not locked onto them. They just have to be in your FOV. Wasn't playing hardcore though, dunno how it works in that mode. \n\nNot saying that to flex, I was just pressing Q when the icon appeared. Makes the combat very boring. Especially since enemies can riposte you and there's nothing you can do about it. The only way to avoid it is to just stand there and turtle and never swing.", "I tried playing enderal on release, got it running once, played for 2 hrs and loved it. But the 3 or 4 different mod launchers and compilers made it so I could remember how to start it and after spending hours getting it running the first time I just gave up. Is it easier now? It is several years later after all", "Linear? \n\nI have 8 characters and a few hundred hours of game play and I have barely played the main story. \n\nThe game is telling a narrative so yes the main plot will feel “linear”, but nothing forces you to play the main story.", "I put some beans on it. Ya know, in case maybe you wanted some beans on it.", "It’s just a modpack. That conveniently broke all script extenders and existing mods because it was also an update to the game itself.", "This argument came from videogame companies and people really fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.\n\nGames have never been adjusted for inflation, that much is true. But what no one seems to consider is that games have been extremely expensive as a baseline since the beginning.\n\nAll the money they miss out on now due to not adjusting for inflation is the extra money they made for selling an extremely expensive product for the past 40 years.\n\nThere's really, genuinely, no need for you to jump to the defense of these multi-million dollar companies. Multi-billion dollar companies in some cases.", "You're more right than some people care to admit. I'm starting to question the sanity of people who've bought every single version released. I completed it twice, and I feel like I've completely gotten the experience, and it's not as deep as many other games. 300 playing hours is enough for me.", "is it a good game with all the updates and new versions? \n\n\nI played it maybe 6 - 7 years ago, and I liked it, but does it make sense to buy one of the newer version or are they just the same game?", "I suppose it's possible they haven't kept up with inflation. When I was first buying video games as a kid they would be $40, they are now $80 (CDN). SR:AE is $66.99, Skyrim VR is $79.99.\n\nGames are undoubtably more expensive to make now than before, largely because of the scale of the games. 100% cost increase over 25 years is probably ahead of inflation... I just did a quick google \"$40 in 1997 is equivalent to $68.93 today\" so seems like the price of games has kept with inflation.\n\nAs I mentioned the cost of game production (AAA) is more expensive than ever but there is also a much wider audience/larger group of consumers to sell to. Looking at this wiki article it kind of looks like sales numbers might have peaked at 2006-2013 range but that's just by taking a quick look at the top sellers not the market overall.\n\n[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\\_of\\_best-selling\\_video\\_games](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games)", "See, he has nobody to blame but himself. He should have ridden in the back.", "I still haven't played Skyrim.\n\n(The graphics and engine looked like shite at launch and look like shite today as well.)", "Check out Enderal: Forgotten Stories on Steam (Legendary or Special Edition, depends on which Skyrim you have).", ">I highly doubt Bethesda can compete with the open world titles of modern day by \"overhauling\" their engine from skyrim which was \"overhauled\" from oblivion which was \"overhauled\" from morrowind.\n\nAny other company could do it, but perhaps Bethesda can't. I think it's very important to point out that the engine is not some cursed thing they can't improve to a level where it can compete with other engines. \n\nBethesda just keeps making excuses to no have to improve it all that much, like keeping it accessible for modders. There is no reason they couldn't keep it accessible and make it much more robust and modern.", "I'd be fine with Skyrim 2.0. \n\nSkyrim was phenomenal and still holds up. It's just long and I've already played it like 3 times. It think it beats Witcher 3, even though the Witcher was more technologically impressive with a newer engine.", "If you get it on steam it only has one launcher and it’s super simple!", "And that's why you download alternate start mods.", "Yes, yes sure you do honey.", "Don't be ridiculous. I know it's popular to hate on Skyrim but Enderal is as total a \"total conversion\" as one can get. Comparing it to the original is apples and oranges. They play very different from one another and Enderal forces the player to play a particular way. If you enjoy that sort of thing go for it, but stop pretending like one supersedes the other. Part of the fun of Skyrim is the complete and absolute freedom it gives you to play how you want.", "I think the prevailing opinion is whichever Elder Scrolls you grew up with is the best.\n\nOtherwise, I've always heard it as Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion.", "Is this a good tactic? Do a lot of people with OG PC skyrim go out and buy the game again? Or is this more to get new players?", "I'd just like to say that this system absolutely ruined the game for me on my first playthrough and turned me off of one of my favorite series for quite some time. The system was poorly explained in-game, and by the time I got to that first oblivion gate battle (I think?), I was too weak to defeat almost anything, and I had to give up.", "I actually liked how your character got better as the story progressed along with actually grasping the mechanics. How ever taking a few weeks off made me so bad at the game I couldn't pick it back up.", "Are you insane or maybe just a STEM major who enjoys needless information overload? Skyrim's UI was phenomenal that was sleek and elegant with minimal intrusion.\n\n>it felt slightly empty and unfinished\n\nYeah okay that's why people spend thousands of hours playing it. Just admit you didn't play okay dude? you probably gave up half-way to Whiterun lol Go back to Morrowind Morrowboomer", "Nope. Bought one of the original versions, played through it once, unmodded. Enjoyed it.", "Kingdom Come is nothing like Skyrim… \n\n\nI also had a horrible time, lol.", "You can fish. AFAIK, that is the only thing new about it and not just a collection of all the old shit.", "Bethesda. Just give us ESVI. Why are we waiting 10+ years for the next game when every game before it took between 4 and 5 years to release? What is this?", "Dude the anniversary edition is just stuff you can get for free if you already have the game on PC", "H u g e improvement. I was always on steam and I don't exaggerate when I say 3+ launchers/compilers with manual shit thru out", "Thanks chief", "The flip side to that lack of directions is that I never experienced that, since I never had Morrowind and don't want to play it now.\n\nBut I really want a modern game that truly gives me that sort of directions. Every game I've played that has set foot in that direction always chickens out and still gives us too much direction.", "Me? I do design UI's for web applications. (but so do lots of people..) \n\nI personally think the UI was Garbage. That was even one of the main criticisms at the time of release, and why there was a popular mod to fix it. \n\nEndlessly scrolling a list of hundreds of items is fucking stupid.", "Ahhh good to know, huh.\n\nI tried modding Dragon Age last year and it was major pain. I guess it makes sense that Skyrim has gotten dramatically easier though.", "This guy Chims.", "lol. TES would be accessible for modders if Bethesda coded it using font from the voynich manuscript. What a load of shit.", "I am a thane, after all...", "lol as if this is in defense of the companies. it's in defense of the creators. they literally lose money paying for the production up front, don't see a recoup on initial sales (usually), and then make up the losses as they add IAPs and DLCs. this is how crunch culture happens - they can't afford extra help, pay their employee dick, and keep deadlines the same. i don't give 2 shits about the money the companies make. \n\nand why the fuck would this argument have come from game companies? to prepare us for $120 games? lol that's never gonna happen, the ship has sailed, and they make better money with this shitty pay-to-play system anyway. it's simply just not something that would have happened so quickly or to the degree it has if games had kept up with inflation. y'know, to pay for quality products in real time, not by scrambling after the fact.", "Mr bean 🤗", "I played the hell out of that game, but never finished it.\n\nThe whole plot just seems to deadstop hard.", "Brilliant", "Get \"OblivionXP\" and never worry about the leveling again. It basically turns oblivion leveling into world of warcraft style. XP for kills, quest completion, crafting, discovering areas, etc. It's so good.", "I still have the free wrist straps they sent everyone after some kid broke his tv!", "more people buy now, but they're buying at 50-80% LESS per unit (that's how not adjusting for inflation works over time) - and the production costs have increased by 1000% or more. they're not making enough to pay their creators and production crews (without demanding they work 100 hour weeks) or hire the right amount of employees to drive those hours down. and thee teams are more like film crews now, not a few 16-bit programmers with one or two people making the art and music. seriously, NES games were $60. now the latest COD is $60. it's ridiculous.", "I really wish they would do an anniversary release of Oblivion with updated graphics.", "> and why the fuck would this argument have come from game companies?\n\nBecause it's a defense for micro-transactions? I don't know where you think that argument comes from, but it's not from regular people.\n\nThey're the ones to first bring up that they're really doing us a favor by still selling games for the same price, and that's why they need micro-transactions to get some executive a new boat.\n\nNothing you've mentioned is something they need MTX for. At least the bigger companies can afford extra help, can pay their employees well but choose not to, and could push back deadlines. They just don't and peddle some bullshit excuses to us, which people like you then repeat, without even knowing where those excuses came from.\n\nThe only people ever in any danger of bankruptcy are indie devs, and that problem has been handled for a very large part by Early Access, which is another cancer that gets abused to often, but at least it helps some indie devs stay in business until their games release.", "I mean people act like its some venerated classic but it honestly its horrendously outdated by now and people have played it so much, this \"new\" version is just the same as the last version, but they're selling other peoples mods with it. Guarantee it won't even come patched to fix bugs.", "Yeah, as a kid, I didn't love it for what I see in it now. I loved the enormous world and the flavors of it. It had amazing story telling, characters, and events. It was incredible to walk around and immerse yourself in, but it's quite miserable to play through now, unless those dated mechanics don't bother you.", "You sound like a kid that runs around and still makes the arrow to the knee joke after 10+ years thinking it's still funny", "Holy shit this is awesome.", "> deadstop hard\n\nSeems redundant", "OP mentioned how much he loved he magic system and you reply with this lol", "Lol to be fair I heard (IIRC) that Bethesda reached out and gave them some tools to port/update SKSE, however many mods will never be updated to the newer version so we’re still losing a ton all for a shitty fishing mini-game.", "Street Fighter 2 Turbo", "That’s just the SE, not part of “Anniversary Upgrade” — SE uses a 64bit engine vs 32bit in legacy.", "Is it a separate Skyrim SE? Like if I want to mod Skyrim SE with all the mods that worked before the update, could I?", "'Capture its original magic' isn't a literal reference to magic* - in this case magic means something more like \"way it makes the player feels over and above the sum of its parts\". It's maybe not something that translates well if you're just learning English, it's a slightly confusing metaphor when we're talking about game with actual 'magic'.", "Ahhh thank you.", "> Can't believe they didn't add 144fps support (it's capped at 60 without mods)\n\nGood thing is that you can do that with some config file tweaking. But I think the main issue is that over 60fps starts to break the game engine (yes, seriously) and physics become a bit wonky.", "Survival mode mostly. You gotta eat and sleep.\n\nNot as difficult as the New Vegas mode but having no fast travel is challenge enough for most people.", "I'd be fine with \"more Skyrim\" as long as the setting is completely different. The province of Skyrim is imo really boring.", "No, if you installed the Skyrim SE patch that was distributed 2 weeks ago, you cannot mod Skyrim anymore. They rebuilt a lot of the internals to support the paid mods and this broke the way free mods had been implemented for a decade. Every mod needs to be rebuilt by the modmaker.", "Played the og on the Xbox. Had a great time! Never played it after I beat it the first time though.", "This comes with a bug that after doing a certain quest all your saves after the fact load into a black screen and you’ve wasted 20 hours.", "I second mace. I run around with a mace and no armored opponed is a problem! Mace to the head for unarmored guys (:", "The leveling system is far better than the earlier games who were really completely broken and on top of it boring in that regard. The conversations in Skyrim aren't exactly good but they're leagues ahead of the encyclopedia npcs of the earlier games. Oblivion had a better world imo but the rest of the systems let it down. Skyrim needs far less modding to be a solid game but still has all the mods you could want.", "The plot is fixed with mods, but yeah vanilla is very railroaded, and in a very sour-tasting way. You have to either become a self-deluded technocrat or you figuratively have to burn the library of Alexandria. Not much gray area. Not a ton of crazy Vault-Tech nonsense either which is one of the better gimmick for fallout writers. The \"random social experiment à la Mengele but dungeon crawling\" trope isn't there in this game, and that's more than a little sad.\n\nBut yeah, the game is about building junk towns and dressing up your people in cool looking clothes, and have them hang out in comfy-looking, run-down shacks. Not cackle at some deliciously satirical set-up.\n\nI guess I just needed to rant at Fallout 4 for a minute. played like 200hrs of this shit. Sorry.", "Street Fighter 2 Turbo Hyper Champion Edition HD Remix", "Oblivion probably had better graphics compared to it's peers though. The real reason is Skyrim has much better basic gameplay (conversations, combat, leveling) out of the box and it also runs much better on most machines.", "Totally, a late game mace is super OP. Pop an arrow into someone's head, their friend comes along, and you give 'em the ol' Bop on the noggin'.", "I'm using skse with havokfix and I get 144 without issues. Few tiny glitches, mostly on kill cams but only cosmetic.", "Strange how they keep breaking mods. They did this for Fallout and I do not understand what it is they're doing that makes mods not work anymore... Seems like an easy problem to avoid.", "It's Skyrim, \"stable\" is a silly word to use.", "The more i look at this the more i realize that Skyrim is just a \"who asked?\" simulator.", "It also doesn't help that the start of the game's plot has this absolute need to keep charging forward as hard as possible, and then that momentum just peters out. \n\nThe pacing is completely off.\n\nYou're go from \"save a your infant son\" to \"save these people, adventurer! I'll mark it on your map.\" Like everyone has lived this way their entire lives and now they suddenly can't even wipe their own asses.", "Only played one other version. I'm not fool enough to buy the same game more than once.", "Skyrim's UI is complete ass and it is barely playable without SkyUI and SKSE. And there's another essential mod for Favorites whose name escapes me at the moment but the vanilla Favorites menu is also hot garbage. I love Skyrim perhaps like no other game but only because mods were able to save it.", "I'll give it a few months and then hopefully there'll be some really interesting Wabbajack compilations compatible with the anniversary edition and then I can start another playthrough. Been about a year and a half since I put any time into Skyrim so I figured I'm about due soon.", "Oh yeah, that's definitely a wrong step right at the start. You can't give a \"Taken\" scenario to a world-exploring experience. That's just not the easiest match for sure.", "I bought it once, played it twice. \n\nFirst time I got to the point where i unlocked shouts, then i did sidequests for 40 hours and got bored and quit. \n\nA few years later i reinstalled it, and spent literally 3 days just installing mods. I played it for 2 hours, got to Whiterun and then quit.", "Yeah, it probably just does the same config file thing. But because they can't fix those few glitches easily, they won't use it as an official solution.", "i don't know if i just got lucky, but i reinstalled my usual non-skse mods for a new playthrough after the patch hit and i didn't run into any problems.\n\nso i don't think every mod needs to be rebuilt. skse and mods that depend on it is a whole different story of course.", "Hopefully James Acaster won't be browsing this sub and see that thumbnail.", "It should have had the new content at the end lasting like a few seconds and then back to walking.", "Right but it's not like Bethesda officially released new DLC other than the tiny new mission in Skyrim that's \"official\". So the \"new additions\" aren't really logical to even align with the game, they're not official DLC or story or such, and they shouldn't even be considered anything but free mods.", "I enjoyed Kingdom Come: Deliverance but it's not fantasy and it's a little more hardcore.", "I'm pretty sure TES6 will just do away with everything and just give us a pretty map with mod tools. That seems to be the direction they're going. TE8 will just be an engine to build your own game with.", ">-miss- \n\nCombat in Morrowind was not good, but it was not as bad as people make it out to be. \nIf you pick the right skills and use the right weapons then you wont have problems hitting enemies. Even at level 1. \nThe free starter dagger was a massive bait for new players.\n\n>you having to read a fucking short story's worth of text\n\nYeah it was awesome. Quests were real adventures, not just \"teleport to compass/map marker, collect reward\". \nSometimes quests were puzzles, and you had to ask around to find out where to go, or even learn about alternate quest objectives.\n\nMorrowind was about the journey, not the prize at the end. Kinda like Lord of the Rings.", "Absolutely, my Henry was kicking ass and taking names once he got a decent set of armor, a mace, and a bit of experience under his belt. The only thing I really continued to dislike in that game was fighting multiple enemies with that crazy lock-on camera.", "Shivering Isles is one of my all time favorites. No place like it in any other fantasy rpg.", "I love cyberpunk 2077, it's the only game where people constantly insist I didn't have as much fun as I did 🤷", "Dragon Age has modlists on wabbajack available, but I haven't tried them personally.", "See I actually didn’t mind the way “classes” got simplified because I think it creates a lot more interesting ways to play the game and create unique experiences. Of course, it also makes it easier to break the game but if that’s how someone wants to play then I think it’s cool that they have that ability. I just hope they give a bit more depth into the individual mechanics.", "It's funny because you superimposed Mr. Bean over nothing happening in the game. Very clever comedy.", "If you feel the awe like when you first emerge from the cave on Skyrim then sign me up for all the bugs", "Holy shit, this had me in stitches. Brilliant!!", "What this vid desperately needs is \"Do you get to the Cloud District very often?\" to which he loses his shit and stabs him to death", "Mmm that was a great feeling\n\nSame with Oblivion\n\nThey really like emerging from caves", ">But I really want a modern game that truly gives me that sort of directions. Every game I've played that has set foot in that direction always chickens out and still gives us too much direction.\n\nOlder games really were not afraid to just throw you into the deep end.\n\nAnd if any game is trying to give you the experience of \"I am a hero, larger than life\" then nothing deflates that feeling faster than having the game hold your hand the whole way.", "Bethesda: \"People keep playing Skyrim, it's amazing! It's 10 years old and people are still paying for it!\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\nYeah, and if you'd never made Skyrim we'd be stuck playing Oblivion remakes. People are still playing Skyrim because they won't finish VI.", "Totally. Best Alice in Wonderland videogame adaptation to date.", "Worth it? No. Not really.", "Mod whatever version you have. Don't waste your money.", "You and me are the same person; broken by the same game. Due to Fable, I never get excited about a potential video game anymore due to the exact reasons you gave. I believed it once and I never will again.\n\nNever follow a video games development due to Fable and never pre-order a game because of Destiny 1. Those two games have taught me the real struggle of making a video game: art vs business.", "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$", "Playing Skyrim VR is a sublime and borderline spiritual experience. Sometimes I'll just stop at the top of a peak, look around, take out my Bloodskal blade and just swing it around doing Highlander shit.\n\nEdit: And don't even get me started on how great duel wielding magic is in this game.", "AE is SE, just with the CC content unlocked. All of the changes were bundled under the \"Anniversary Edition update\". You don't call Dawnguard a separate game, for example.", "Every Bethesda RPG is a 9/10 with mods.\n\nI say 9, because the bugs can still get uncontrollable, even with every patch in existence.", "You escaped the underscores incorrectly in that URL. In markdown, resulting in a bad link. You don't actually need to escape them at all. The correct URL is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_Baby,_Mr._Bean", "I’m aware lol. That’s why I clarified what he said, because he said AE is updated with a new compiler, which isn’t necessarily true unless you’re coming off Legacy Skyrim. \n\nI wasn’t calling it a separate game, I was clarifying that. \n\nAlso, Steam lists the new (paid) update as a separate bundle called “Anniversary Edition” which includes Skyrim SE and Anniversary Upgrade.", "Yeah it drives me crazy that so many games have absolutely well crafted grim and rimmed environments... Like thanks but make something that is not dark and depressing please.", "Fo3 is fucked, they suddenly decided they cared about a decade old glitch that was easily bypassed and broke decade old mods in the process that will likely never be updated", "On the other side of this, I was bored of standing up less than half way through that long intro and quit without any want to play the VR edition again.\n\n Couldn't believe they didn't let you skip that dreadful nonsense intro.", "Yeah, I was in junior high when MW came out. I had friends that had literally never read a novel in \"real life\" but would read every single thing they encountered in game.", "I don't think I've ever actually tried to go through the cart ride intro in VR, EVER. It was a buggy mess the first time I tried to play Skyrim VR, with my camera flying up and down through the terrain at stupid speed. I installed Realm of Lorkhan alternate start and never looked back.", "All my friends that game have been playing that game for so long and with sooo many mods it’s funny to me they’d do this even. What’s funnier though? All of you eye rolling are more then likely gonna buy it and play it cause… Skyrim.", "Exactly, it's even easier if you pick major skills that you don't intend to use and only level those when you want to level up.", "Which mods fix the plot, and how? That was always one of my main issues.", "There was a patch today that supposedly fixes the black screen issue.", "They're also working on Starfield and had Fallout 4 before that.", "The differences is probably that you can’t use any of your favorite mods because yet again they’ve released an entirely new version that isn’t compatible with them.\n\n/s, but not really.", "You most likely missed a lot of content. I was finding new things for years after my first playthrough.", "Haven't teh issue always been the engines physics breaking above 100fps or so? \n\nI remember trying to run it with higher fps on release and it just made the wagon-ride into the execution a wonky adventure to say the least. Not to mention all the accidental deaths from sneaking between rocks and whatnot, not to mention ragdoll physics being way out of order.", "It's not that large of a game. I visited and completed everything.", "Yes", "This is the mod I'm using and it's worked great. I have constant 144 fps with very minor issues. Only issue so far is in the kill cams the animations don't always line up or are kind of janky but doesn't impact gameplay otherwise. My system is fairly high end, dont know how it would behave if it wasn't constant 144 fps.\n\n[https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18160](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18160)", "I've been modding skyrim since around launch and I wouldn't ever of said it was all that bad. Most problems I've had I've cause by just grabbing too much.\n \nSomeone can correct me if I'm wrong, its been a while, but I'm pretty sure managers were already somewhat of a thing (not the nexus one tho) by the time Skyrim launched because most of the legwork had already been done by modders of Bethesda's older games. They all used roughly the same modding framework, until now it sounds.\n\nPersonally, I always found New Vegas a pain to mod, with a manager or without. Just never seemed stable.\n\nI've been out of the modding world for years now, I've seen some people in this thread talk about some type of all-in-one mod packs you can download now, which is crazy convient. I remember back when I was active the community being more against the idea, because it wouldn't credit authors/ go towards download count. Wonder if a middleground was made somehow.\n\nEdit: I ramble, my bad.", "I copy and pasted it, and it works fine for me, and looks fine for me, and reads \"Mind\\_the\\_Baby,\\_Mr.\\_Bean\" without quotes. I didn't try and escape any characters, which leads me to think it is a client side browser rendering error on your end or similar?", "UI has been something Bethesda has always sucked at. Which is weird, because a 12 year old could think up a better UI system than what they have delivered for every TES game to this date.\n\nIt's like really really horrible. And the engine was even outdated when used to Skyrim. They pushed it as far as it could go. And it showed. Anything but a brand new engine with massive improvements to the concepts of the game (20x better AI, more feeling of a living world, choices mattering in making factions and quests unavailable as the game progresses, alternative routes to the main quest depending on choices and allegiances, better combat mechanics and fighting as in making it feel more fluid, better stealth/archery, changes to the magic system (cuz it didnt improve from previous versions, only restricted it) etc etc)\n\nAlso, remove compass needles and waypoints, remove anything that takes away immersion etc. Design the game with those things not being needed, and keep it as options for the lazy that want to run from A to B without listening to instructions, figuring out where to get somewhere etc.\n\nIt could be something great. But it won't be, because this is Bethesda and Todd Howard we're talking about", "I was just looking at it in Firefox, and clicking it gave me Wikipedia’s version of a 404. I’m not sure where those slashes came from if you didn’t add them.\n\nFor what it’s worth, I’m also seeing them in the Apollo app for iOS, so I don’t think it’s a client side issue.", "how intriguing. Link works fine for me on Sync for Android and Firefox, and Edge on a separate device. \n\nI think something is interfering with how your traffic is handled at a network level, like PiHole or something. Try on a cellular connection on mobile and see if it makes a difference.", "New Gen games are $70", "Oh for sure haha! I have my few developers who churn out games that I know I'm gonna try no matter what. But otherwise yeah. I'm the same way.", "No you definitely did not.", "huh good to know, I’ll try to find that at some point if I play again", "I know more about my own experiences than you, but thanks for the attempt at a tip. I played the game, it's finished. Nothing more needs to be said on it.", "We're in a lonely club, you and I. I thought Skyrim was decent enough but not good, and certainly not worth the hype. Felt like an uninspired 2001 fantasy game with nicer graphics. Everything from the writing to the ai and dungeon design felt cliche.", "The cover art", "FFXIV has a first person toggle that I abuse. It's pretty.", "Nope you did not finish all of it in one go. Nice try though.", "It's because the mods that break have to check the version info. If it does not match, it will not work.", "Stupid question but is it not available with the OG edition? It's all I got and I couldn't find the mod.", "24/25? Damn, so there's at least 3 more Skyrim versions coming? Really looking forward to the smartwatch port", "There’s fishing too, for some reason", "You're really strange, dude. I'm going to ignore you now.", "The load times are even faster now. Come to think of it I'm not sure I've had time to read more than a couple of lore/tips over the last week lol", ">That’s why I clarified what he said, because he said AE is updated with a new compiler, which isn’t necessarily true unless you’re coming off Legacy Skyrim. \n\nIt's a updated compiler, they upgraded from visual studio 2015 to visual studio 2019 so yes it technically is correct to call it a new compiler.\n\nThis was a requirement by Microsoft and matches the game pass version now.\n\n>Also, Steam lists the new (paid) update as a separate bundle called “Anniversary Edition” which includes Skyrim SE and Anniversary Upgrade.\n\nThe update brings in the new compiler and four creation club mods for free, the anniversary edition is a bundle that gives you all the current cc mods plus unreleased cc content, \n\nsse and anniversary are the same patch version now aka 1.63", "What?\n\nIt broke skse mods, not all mods same as every update except now it's a new compiler so skse and skse plugins have to be updated, address library does not solve this problem.\n\nA few mods got black screen issues because script were loading faster and need to be updated.\n\n>They rebuilt a lot of the internals to support the paid mods and this broke the way free mods had been implemented for a decade.\n\nNo, no they didn't, they updated the compiled from visual studio 2015 to 2019 which was a requirement by Microsoft.\n\nYou can also use all the anniversary edition paid mods on the previous version of sse with the only problem being the new ayelid tileset.\n\n>Every mod needs to be rebuilt by the modmaker.\n\nNo, not even remotely right, 95% still work completely fine.\n\nEdit: I'll going into explaining it a bit more from here.\n\nSkyrim script extender (and all script extenders aka f4se, etc) are exploits of the game executable so code can be injected in to add the new functions, dll plugins are then able to extend functions out even more.\n\nWhen Bethesda compiles their game source code to push the update, the memory addresses shift a little bit and the script extender team has to figure out the updated addresses to exploit the exe again and then compile a new version to inject their code.\n\nThen script extender modders have to update their plugins to pretty much do the same thing, address library acted as a linker between the script extenders and the dll plugins.\n\nWith the newest update though, Bethesda had to rework some code to compile with the updated compiler so while skse didn't need a massive rewrite like from oldrim to sse, certain parts of skse need to be rewritten and things need to be reverse engineered and the plugins have to update to these changes so address library needs to be redone also and then the dll plugins need to be adjusted for the changes from there.\n\nWe shouldn't need a major skse again like this though and once skse, address library and dll plugins adapt to the new address library then things will be smooth again.", "Outer Worlds was never supposed to be Fallout. The devs themselves tried to tell people this repeatedly before the game came out. The unrealistic expectations was entirely on people expecting something that was never even there or promised in the first place", "All you needed was a spell of \"100% magic resist for 1 second\" (Which wasn't too hard to cast) active while you put the boots on. For some reason permanent magic resist wasn't needed as the game only checked magic resist on equip and not all the time.", "Have you tried: https://store.steampowered.com/app/933480/Enderal_Forgotten_Stories/", "This is basically like responding to someone talking about how much they loved WoW by saying \"try the Life is Feudal MMO\"", "I agree. I don't need to play every possible combination of character possible. It's not that deep.\n\nKill enemy, loot dungeon. Do quest, get reward. \n\nThat said, I still play Runescape so.. it's whatever you like.", "If you didn't like it six years ago it's not worth the work it takes now, I can promise that.", "lol these are the reasons I enjoy Morrowind\n\nIt's a lot easier to stumble across a random ruin when I'm following difficult directions (there's only a few quests that are essentially bugged with wrong directions)\n\nI loved that there were areas that I need to level up to get to (though the high level wilderness in the expansions was a bit silly imo)\n\nI felt very immersed when the NPCs had a lot to say that I wasn't interested in and they often said the same things as eachother (like real life) and it only costs a few bytes of text rather than megabytes of audio\n\nI like to miss, it's been in almost every single RPG I've ever played in my life. It's just part of the RPG strategy. Morrowind needed a miss animation and needed to convey info a bit better. Maybe be a little less harsh with the dice rolls (ESO does missing well)\n\nI like to put it on every year or so, the main problem for me is the clunkiness of the controls/UI has aged pretty badly and it's hard to fix these issues with mods\n\nIt's also honestly significantly easier to follow directions with an increased view distance since I can see that cave/ruin from the quest start point. Imo the best solution for the quest marker debate would be to look more into clairvoyance as a more reasonable spell to cast for long times (enchantments/potions?)", "I did wonder whether clairvoyance was a leftover from an earlier version of skyrim and perhaps they were considering an alternative to the quest markers. \n\nI suspect they moved away from text directions because it allows them to move NPCs around without worrying about every quest they're involved in and needing to re-write every one.", "Hmm not really, it is less stable than SE was due to launch bugs, and the paid mods are not really as good as the free ones. You're still better off modding SE or the good old 2011 version.", "Nothing happening except an execution and a dragon attack and racism and stupid kids.", "buggy is just a feature with bethesda, wouldnt be a true elder scrolls without that wonky engine", "What a bunch of nonsense, gridlock explained it and why.", "This one says \"anniversary\" on the box", "Fuck, I guess if I'd spell it right that would have helped. Thanks.", "No problem, have fun.\nI also only had OG Edition and Enderal made it much more stable. Love this mod to this day.", "I didn't have any expectation and I still think The Outer Worlds is a really really subpar game? \n\nAnd anyway, that... doesn't matter, the comparison still holds. The sentence \"If Avowed is to Skyrim what The Outer Worlds was to Fallout\" can still be said whether they made promises or not.", "Oblivion man", "If you pick the right skills combat goes from challenging to laughably easy.", ">\"random social experiment à la Mengele but dungeon crawling\"\n\nwhich mods would you recommend to get in order to have this kind of play experience in FO4? I want this so bad", "This one crashes and won’t let you save.", ">>cannot mod Skyrim anymore\n\neh? i installed a new SKSE64 for the AE patch and started an old playthrough, with new mods ive never used from nexus, literally today. what did they break exactly?", "It was a nothingburger quickly thrown together to try to placate the anger over the mobile game announcement.", "that mobile game was fucking horrible." ]	334	videos	skyrim anniversary edition but you've already played the billion other versions
https://youtu.be/NSCvsW-z2LE	/r/videos/comments/qzk4l7/jetson_one_flying_through_the_forest/	[ "This needs WAY louder music", "He got emotional last sec lol.", "Might as well move the control sticks under the knees if its going to be that tight.", "Yup. Concept is nice but it looks extremely uncomfortable.", "For me the only thing that looks bit uncomfortable is legs area although it might just look like that. I would expect it to be as lite as possible so limiting space and weight was probably priority. There is even pilot weight limit set for that vechicle.\n\nThis is not a concept anymore. It went into production. Pre orders for 2022 are sold out.\n\nThere are more details on official site.", "Open propellers... How stupid can one be.", "What? Lots of aircraft have open propellers.", "Flying through the forest seems quite dangerous for the occupant. And wouldnt the point be more about getting to fly over the trees? \n\nAlso, fuck this music.", "I've seen the site as soon as they started selling. They already sold almost 60 units for 2023. They were really proud of the fact that they sold most of their copters to theme parks. I cannot imagine some random people just hopping on something like that without any previous experience with flying or steering a drone. After 20 minutes flight it needs one hour to be recharged, it costs 92000$ and I wonder what type of business model someone would need to run to make it profitable.\n\nSpace for legs is way too small and having eight huge spinning blades right next to head and body is not a good idea. Google \"drone rotor accident\"... not a pleasant view.", "The concept of flying is super cool, but I would rather be on the ground for the rest of my life than get lift next to 4 lawnmower blades for 30 seconds. Having said that, I think we do need.. trial and error for progress. I mean, Wright Brothers kind of stuff, right? Just let.. someone else do it first like a bunch of times.. Oh you didn't die? Cool, maybe Ill take it for a spin.", "So much for any birds that happen to fly from one side of the forest to another! Chop chop! Progress!", "And none of them are designed to fly 2m above the ground. :)", "Great thing about Jetson videos is that you know, even before clicking, that none of them are longer than 10 minutes. Only thing missing here is pilot wearing Supreme t-shirt.", "That's gotta be so loud.", "Neither is this one", "So same situation as with any other propeller vechicle.", "I don't understand the negativity in these comments. It's a compact electric flying machine. Sure, these kind of things now have very low battery life (20 minutes on this one) but that would've been impossible with the batteries from 10 years ago. I hope I get to fly a hydrogen or battery powered long distance plane in my lifetime.", "Can you imagine how loud this contraption is?", "It better actually make those starwars noises they added or im disappointed.", "Imagine going for a short stroll in the woods and being decapitated?", "Imagine walking on a sidewalk, chilling, window-shopping and getting hit by a car.", "Its basically a drone. Drones can fly prettyyy high so not sure what you're on about.", "I like how the open rotors and pilots head are at the same level. Clip a tree, and you could be dead before you hit the ground.", "I can assure you it is not using ground effect with props that small at the height they are at. Ground effect would work if they were like a foot or so off the ground, not 20ft. I think the reason they are flying low in all their videos is because they are scared to go higher and crash. At the height they are at now, they might live in a crash.", "I'm pretty sure it's not using the ground effect. In other videos it goes much higher than ground effect would be a factor. \n\nGonna need a source on it using ground effect as a major part of it's design.", "Any flying man-operated vechicle out there that gives you 100% chances of survival after hitting a tree while flying? Guess the point is to not hit trees. Its exactly the same as driving a car - its nice not to hit trees, other cars, humans, animals and stuff basically, because you know - you could die or other people could die.\n\nJetson is not a toy. It most likely will require pilot license to be able to fly it although its all country specific regulations that come into play here.", "It might be country specific regulations regarding aerial traffic that just dont allow them to fly higher. They would probably need to contact air traffic control, provide route, etc. You know - all the real shit you need to do before getting off the ground with plane or heli.\n\nEDIT: its also major thing that makes me unsure about future of personal flying devices. Regulations are pretty strict regarding flying. Quite sure that at least in the EU, you would be required to have a pilot license to fly it.", "Exactly. If people don't like my driving they should stay off the sidewalk.", "How many flying man-operated vehicles are designed to fly alongside trees rather than over them?", "The safety of a car is in no way comparable to this. And I think you underestimate the decades of effort that has gone into making aviation as safe as it is today. Even if this thing was as safe as some other contraptions today, the way that it is being marketed is irresponsible. (Everyone is a pilot) I don't want to meet one of these on my next hike.", "Those exposed blades give me lots of anxiety... Just takes 1 crash and you're basically a shish kebab. But very impressive none the less.", "While the Jetson One can supposedly reach altitudes of 1500m, their stated design intent is to be low flying (2-5m). I don't think they've put a video out yet where they go any higher than that.", "Did you not turn on the sound? When it's not making amazing, futuristic sounds straight out of a sci-fi movie, it's super quiet! /s", "Okey? Why is he not flying higher?", "Looks bloody dangerous. No thank you!", "Wow. $22,000 as a deposit, $92,000 total cost.", "or a car. Birds are pretty good at avoiding big, loud, moving things.", "That’s what you went with?", "Is this an ultralight? If it is, you can't fly into controlled airspace (the service ceiling is exactly 1500 feet, what a coincidence). Doesn't matter anyways - I can't imagine someone trying to land at a towered airport with 20 minutes of battery, and the fuel/flight time requirements alone would preclude you from being allowed to.", "Super epic music for a dude in what appears to be a scaled up drone flying in a straight line at around 20mph", "If it's anything like my drone, I'm going to guess that it sounds like a billion angry bees - but louder.", "Not even a crash. A moderately sized twig could fall from a tree and fuck everything up", "Ah yes, exactly the same as driving a car. Right. Cars, where every time I get in the drivers seat I'm surrounded at eye level by 4 exposed death blades spinning at a million miles an hour that will self destruct the instant anything but air touches one of them and send me hurtling towards the earth from 50 feet in the air. Where if a single malfunction happens in a single blade, I'm dead.", "Still cheaper than a jpeg of a video game space ship in a game that doesn't exist yet!", "Action Park is planning a comeback? TIL!", "And none of them are at eye level with the driver.", "It can ascend and descend 1500m in 20 minutes? That's almost a mile!", "Kebab.", "I feel like a lot of rich people are going to shell out $92K for one of these, fly it around for 20 minutes and then have a huge case of buyers remorse when they realize that's it. It wont fly any farther, faster, or higher than they just flew.", "No, you can only ascend in that time frame. \n\nAscending 1500m shouldn't really take all that long. It has a top speed of just over 60mph so I assume it could climb at a relatively decent clip were someone brave enough to try. Apparently it has an emergency parachute but it could only effectively deploy at relatively high altitudes. \n\nI would be mostly concerned about turbulence. I think there is a reason we mostly see this thing travel in straight lines. I'm concerned about how well it handles and wind blowing it around at even modest altitudes sounds scary.", "Or if you hit someone.", "Kalabeeb.", "It should be called the decapitator.", "What? I can't hear you over the loud music!", "The thing is, it's a toy. Expensive toy for the rich spoiled kids. I see this as sand buggies. No practical application other than having fun. Except this is limited in every shape or form and exceedingly more dangerous.", "Fear presumably. I wouldn't want to fall from 200m riding a glorified blender either. Supposedly it has an emergency parachute, but that only means until you reach effective height for it to be used you are shit out of luck. This is genius design like [Tupolev Tu-22](http://www.airforce.ru/aircraft/miscellaneous/ejectionseats/tu/tu-22_seats_00.jpg) had for ejecting pilots beneath the plane effectively planting people into the ground in case of emergency.", "I thought it was the sound of the speeder bikes from return of the jedi, which is pretty ironic because that sceen featured a lot of speeder bikes crashing into trees at high speed. \n\n\nStill gotta' start somewhere.", "Yeah... new attractions include:\n- Russian roulette\n- Fighting with alligators\n- THE PIT OF DOOM\n- Jetson ONE\n\nMy favourite quote from Class Action Park documentary is \"the floor of the pool below the cliff was eventually painted white to make it easier for lifeguards to spot any bodies below\"", "I SAID TURN IT UP! THE WHOLE WORLD IS TIKTOK NOW!", "not terrible vfx, terribly misleading in its presentation as real. EDIT: although i stand behind my statement, i refuse to upvote my own comment." ]	60	videos	Jetson ONE Flying Through The Forest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k&ab_channel=NotJustBikes	/r/videos/comments/qzkmu1/why_the_netherlands_is_the_best_country_for/	[ "I feel like about 85% of the root cause of all this guys videos can be boiled down to population density. The 'better' U.S. cities pretty much were all laid out prior to widespread motor vehicle ownership. At this point, there's so much momentum behind how U.S. cities have been built out, I don't see how to get U.S. cities to look like Dutch cities.", "The idea that a tiny flat country has the best driving roads is just preposterous. They may have lovely traffic control infrastructure but they don't have epic driving roads. The best roads for driving require elevation change and switchbacks and corners.", "I'm in Canada - and the cities are virtually identical to American cities in terms of unfrastructure/layout/etc. \n\n\nUnfortunately, I feel like it's just as much an urban planning thing as it is a cultural thing. People are born thinking that car ownership is the defacto way to get around and do things.\n\n\nEdit: added the word car.", "I think you are missing the point.", "I don´t even think he was searching for the point of the video :)", "Interesting that car enthusiasm is \"bizarre\" to him despite being presumably an engineer and appreciating beauty and such. How can you look at something like a Jaguar E-type or a Lotus Evija and not understand why some of us are enthusiasts?\n\nGood video though.", "Oh I get the point of the video. The Netherlands has a lovely traffic control infrastructure. I would never argue with that point. I guess I just can't agree that the best traffic control infrastructure makes a place the best place to drive. There's more to driving than traffic control infrastructure. Gas prices, speed limits, vehicle choices and cost of ownership, quality and type of pavement used, restrictions on modifications all play into a place being good for vehicle owners and driving. The Netherlands is a very restrictive and expensive place to try to own a vehicle. They literally do not have any mountain back roads to drive on. Also, have you checked out the VAT they charge on vehicle purchases?", "It's not only traffic control infrastructure - It's fewer drivers on the road and a few other points. \n\n\nAlso - he says \"best place to drive\" for people commuting, and contrasts the Dutch driving experience with North American rush hour traffic, bloated highways.", "I think he appreciates that nice cars/automotive engineering is something that people like, but it's just not for him.", "So it's a great place to commute. Good for them. I'd rather take public transit if I have that kind of commute which I do not. America's approach to suburban Transit infrastructure IS stupid and the agenda is set by corporations trying to sell more stuff..... Whether fuel or vehicles or unsustainable lifestyles.", "... Did you watch the whole video, or at all? I think you're simultaneously AGREEING with the video maker, but believing that you're at odds with what he's saying. \n\n\nHere's a really quick breakdown of the video:\n\n- He spends lots of time espousing bicycles as a great form of urban transportation.\n\n- He loves the netherlands for its' unsurpassed cycling infrastructure. \n\n- He made this video to demonstrate that just because the Dutch love to ride bicycles, it doesn't meant that their driving infrastructure/experience sucks. On the contrary; The Dutch driving experience (according to the video maker) is a much better driving experience than the North American counterparts. \n\n\n\nHe's also made videos on why North American public transportation is a fucked too, by the way, and his thesis there lines up with what you've said as well.", "Winnipeg is trying to make bike-friendly routes, etc. But they're hardly used when snow is on the ground from Oct/Nov until roughly May. Not to mention the bitter cold and windchill that comes along with it.", "[He made a video about why people in Finland can cycle in the winter.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU) I get the excuses, but for everything is a solution.", "His first two comments included, \"people who've never tried\" and \"why are Canadians giant wimps?\" \n\n\nWell, I've tried in my younger years. After one slip on ice off my bike and watching a bus nearly run over my face, I wimped out. \n\nExperiences will vary from person to person of course. If these bike paths gain more and more use over time, even through our winters, I'm all for it.", "Most people in the Netherlands live in suburbs that were built with cars in mind (just not only with cars in mind), and most large cities in the U.S. were built before cars existed ([Here](http://iqc.ou.edu/2014/12/12/60yrsmidwest/) are some examples that show pretty clearly that cities used to be built just as dense as cities in Europe). It's the result of policies, lobbying, and massive subsidies that cities in the U.S. started to spread out, not population density. Those policies can be changed to allow for the building of cities with proper infrastructure too.", "Yes, cities in the US have more populations. By having more options to travel than just the car makes it way less busy on the road. Those options can be more public transport or (separated) bicycle lanes. [Here an example.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/qwcgce/the_amount_of_space_taken_up_transporting_63/) Maybe not duable for travelling to other cities since the distance are quite far in North-America, but at least it can reduce some traffic.", "I think part of the solution is making sure that slipping on ice can't lead to your head being under a bus. Bike paths and busses should be seperated", "Please watch the video lol", "I did. I know why you said that. It's a pipe dream for this city to every put that much coin into keeping the roads clear let alone bike paths so people won't fall off bikes as easy." ]	20	videos	Why the Netherlands is the Best Country for Drivers
https://youtu.be/A-iAEpfCVD4	/r/videos/comments/qzl4jw/this_charming_man_but_just_morrissey_quotes/	[ "You saw it here first folks!", "Lol nice", "Bahaha", "I don't know who this Morrissey guy is but it sounds like he might be a bit racist.", "I enjoy it .... sounds kinda like \"Morrissey.\" Upvoted...", "I'm comforted by the thought that one day no one will remember Morrissey or his insufferable music.", "This is amazing.", "this is brilliant", "And you’d be incorrect in that assumption… unless you’re talking about 80 billion years in the future.", "I cannot get myself to hate their music. This is sad." ]	9	videos	This Charming Man but just Morrissey Quotes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noaMIy_FWsA	/r/videos/comments/qzl8bz/accurate_13th_doctor_parody/	[ "This is perfection. Now play it back at 5x speed with music so loud you can't hear dialogue and you have it!", "The writing has been so shit. Only like 2 episodes that were actually good.", "Well that was 20 seconds ill never get back." ]	3	videos	Accurate 13th Doctor Parody
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzlcq7/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzlcq7/deleted_by_user/	[ "Skip to 1 minute in to hear him speak.", "Sounds like a Unsolved Mystery \"witness\" unlit shadowy figure with voice manipulation.", "subwoofer near fell of my desk", "Bro I can’t get over how big his hands are! They’re nearly the size of his mother and fathers torso!", "If this man was in good health with that size, I would pay to see him throw some hands in the ring..", "More info on it here: http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2013/04/24/another-giant-with-similar-symptoms-to-zech-devits-and-matt-mcgrory/", "Says he was born with an unknown syndrome that made him have his huge size (along with a lot of problems).", "You just want to see someone with shotguns for hands? Like if he caught a jaw. It's gone, then your neck snaps just before your head tries to do it's best football impression to the next intersection. Like lethal is goes for normal sized people those would be war crime level.", "Sounds like the start of Space Cries by Ed Mount: https://open.spotify.com/track/1W7iMoaSe31Os638bbPL5g?si=12fac561ef4741dd\n\nor\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTrmBFrC70k", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxmLD8y0RNQ", "Rofl thanks for that share", "Now get this man some sulfur hexafluoride", "That is like, a really good point actually!", "He sound like he's a retired gang member under protection talking about his experience with said gang", "Would helium make his voice sound normal?", "DK mode IRL", "Barry White cover band vocalist right here", "He must have the same condition as the actor that played the Giant in Big Fish", "Oh I thought it was just acromegaly. That’s pretty interesting.", "Sleep well, my friend, and dream of large women.", "This guy has a future in [language training videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prg_SVBfFWw)", "Sounds just like when they deepen someone’s voice and only show their silhouette to keep people anonymous..", "Guy looks like Mario's face in Mario64 after i have my way with him for a few hours", "Damn dude, he looks like a glitched TES IV Oblivion NPC...\n\nSad tho, most be a pain to live like that, joints, bones, cartilage... I dont speak Spanish but i heard osteoporosis and muerte so that cant be good.", "It would probably make him sound like the bass from the Oakridge Boys.", "Reminds me of this \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZeGeM50HdU&ab\\_channel=AdultSwim", "My left ear was blown away by this.", "[First thing that came to mind](https://youtu.be/eBG7P-K-r1Y?t=76)", "El-vira..", "my dog was like wtf", "sounds like a tim and eric voice gag", "We do beg your pardon...", "Poor dude", "This whole video is like when you see your custom character in a game's cutscene.", "A voice only elephants can understand", "I bet he would give Jonah Falcon a run for his money", "Is that elizabeth holmes?", "mount toga from baki", "I completely forgot about that commercial until just now, and I'm still sick of seeing it.", "Snipers dream they used to call him.", "I'm thinking about that noggin. The lady at the end says he is very intelligent, well no shit, that guy takes big brain to a whole new meaning!", "Giddyup", "His name was Matthew Mcgrory\n\nhttps://youtu.be/cI_hsLxbdyY", "No it would make way lower (if it's even possible/has an effect given the shape of his vocal chords). He should try helium instead.", "I wonder what his singing voice would be like? It would be interesting to hear music composed to take advantage of his voice", "I just love how he's smiling. That's a lot to deal with.", "Because of his spots?", "HOOO\n\nLEEE\n\nPHUK!!", "Damn, he really does sound similar.\n\nI was ready to post the tall guy in a tiny car from the simpsons:\n\n\"do you find something comical about my appearance when I am driving my automobile?\"\n\nhttps://youtu.be/gkBqVVbnZ1c", "Someone playing their 45 at 33 speeds.", "https://youtu.be/T7MClxvXrIg", "yeah as soon as I heard his voice I thought how the giant in that didn't seem so far fetched now", "He’s had it since he was a kid so it would’ve been gigantism that developed into acromegaly, but it certainly seems like he has some problems with excessive growth hormone.", "Sounds like when your slowing down a recording of a persons voice", "Tim's slight tilt of the head at :26 always kills me.", "I don't speak Spanish. Are they talking about how tiny his parents are?", "He died at only 32 :( I'm glad he had such a fun and fulfilling life though", "A whoomp pomp a mao mao.", "^^^But ^^^we ^^^are ^^^in ^^^your ^^^garden.", "When I played this, there were whales on the other side of the planet going, \"What the fuck was that?\"", "I wana see him enter one of those Russian slapping competitions.", "Have you seen seen the damage they do! Their hands are like 1/4 the same size!", "Then teach him throat singing", "why was it on your desk in the first place? that's no place for a subwoofer!", "bruh i swear alarma tv, the show this was produced for, always has crazy shit that just leaves you thinking about it for the next week", "Well, the parents in this video are saying the doctors told them they couldn't identify the exact condition because there was none other exactly like it. They found 10 similar cases worldwide, but with some differences.", "Oh no, not the cookies!" ]	68	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/hX2aZUav-54	/r/videos/comments/qzlsit/its_time_to_break_up_with_our_gas_stoves_climate/	[ "Switching to electric stoves is only better for the environment when that electricity is being generated with clean renewable energy, it's going to take the shut-down of a few specific trillion-dollar corporations to save the world at this point.", "Electric stoves suck.", "Gas stoves still work when the power goes out. Really handy for if you need to heat your house in a blizzard and your generator failed", "You can't control the temperature effectively. Electric stoves are fine (I have one) if you don't mind burning the shit out of your food on a regular basis. On the other hand, if you have a gas stove you can make food that isn't burned to shit, even when the power is out. But hey, just my opinion.", "Uncle Roger intensifies", "Counter-conspiracy: this video, which has been posted multiple over the past week, was produced by the electric stove lobby. \n\nUntil we have a clean grid powered by renewable energy, any switch to electric will be meaningless.", "I don't know if I'd want to keep fire going for heat with no ventilation, but you could at least cook if you had to, yeah. Some gas stoves have a safety switch that keeps the has shut off without power though.", "Natural gas generation from a central plant to power electric appliances is still better than gas appliances at home because it keeps the emissions out of the inside of your house, and you can make use of technologies to clean the air at a power plant too, which people aren't doing at home.", "Natural gas generation from a central plant to power electric appliances is still better than gas appliances at home because it keeps the emissions out of the inside of your house, and you can make use of technologies to clean the air at a power plant too, which people aren't doing at home." ]	9	videos	It's Time To Break Up with Our Gas Stoves \| Climate Town
https://youtu.be/D9UbIynGdsQ	/r/videos/comments/qzlysw/exposing_fake_parkour_girl_on_rooftops_of_paris/	[ "Was her going through apartments and over comically convenient women sunbathing supposed to be considered real?", "You can have staged moments in a parkour video while still doing real parkour. This just isn't the case", "I just don't care that there are fake internet videos. Do they entertain me? The only litmus that matters.", "She? The person doing the actual parkour was a man.", "The model can't do parkour at all - it's a man in a dress with a beard. Use a female parkour athlete if thats what the film requires.", "Commercial created by production company to sell product isn't real?!!? Uhm, that's literally 99% of all commercials. The point of the video was to advertise product, not to showcase women doing parkour.\n\nedit: anyone who thinks commercials should focus on accurately representing reality over trying to sell a product clearly do not understand what a commercial is. That's your bad. Downvotes won't change your opinion into a correct one. The button literally isn't magic.", "Proper clickbait title. Exposed?! I don't think anyone intended for this to seem real (jumping out of a 4 storey building...) it's just an entertaining advert.", "The guy says himself that the video is actually a commercial created by a production company. So it isn't supposed to be real, it's supposed to be a commercial.\n\nedit: is this the Fox News comment section? Only those people think downvotes change reality. I'm ashamed that my fellow democrats and liberals are acting like cry baby hypocrites by attempting to censor me because they want to cause me (a complete stranger) harm. Shame on you! That behavior is exactly as bad as Trump supporters.\n\nIf you aren't a total piece of shit, you shouldn't be trying to censor harmless opinion, attack strangers online, or spite them to make yourself feel good. If you feel good by making other people feel bad, that is a BIG RED FLAG THAT YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT. I'm glad that trying to harm others doesn't make me feel good. I can't imagine having to harm / attack others just to boost my spirits or justify my own opinions.", "The fact that it’s an ad doesn’t make it fake. an advertisement can still have real parkour in it.", "So the video points out this was an ad. If they're not broadcasting this as \"real parkour\", why should anyone care that the content is faked? This is outrage over nothing. For the vast majority of viewers the sloppy editing wouldn't have been noticeable, because their target audience is not going to do a frame-by-frame analysis of the video. The editing choices made are likely there to cut the budget, not to impress some random YouTuber who freaks out over fake parkour videos.", "ITT: People who don’t realize “FAKE” tv commercials can still contain real quality stunts (parkour). The fact that this production company faked the parkour is what he’s exposing….not the fact that it’s an advert.", "the point of the video going over redditors' head. what else is new.", "An advertisement that uses a production crew, editing, actors, and practical effects?\n\nHow dare they! IT'S A FAKE!", "It certainly can, but it also doesn't need to have real parkour in it. It's a bit much to call this video 'Exposing fake parkour girl' especially when there is nothing to suggest there was a claim that there were real parkour stunts in it. This guy is attacking a straw man.", "LOL, women doing parkour, that was enough to know it was fake. Has OP never met a woman before?", "\"Breakdown of stunts used in this parkour commercial\" doesn't angry up the blood of internet basement dwellers enough though.", "Two things I hate in a thumbnail that make me not click it… a circle and a red arrow pointing to said circle.", "Nothing on the internet is real", "I feel like you didn't actually watch the video. The guy says his problem with it is that its one of the most popular female parkour videos, but it isn't actually a woman doing the parkour. They dressed a man up as a woman and edited it to look like the woman was doing the stunts. Despite there being female parkour people who could have done the stunts.", "Oh wow the advert is using fake parkour to make it seem even better... also funny this video is just over 10 mins, the amount needed for extra money. Make shit clickbaiting titles and put it on reddit. Fuck off.", "Jesus all this and it turns out to be an advertisement? Man, I got news for this guy.", "Before you know it, they'll be faking stunts in movies and tv shows, too. Imagine, for example, a Spiderman movie where he really isn't swinging across the skyline on spider webs shot out of his wrists?!", "What's next, exposing James Bond's stunts?", "Why are you leaving snarky comments if you haven't watched the video that's being discussed? That's not the point of the video.", "The parkour girl having her stunts done by a man pretending to be a woman is fucking lazy. He said there are plenty of women who could have done it.", "Spider-Man isn’t real. Parkour is real, so why not film real parkour athletes?", "Eek. I’d never even considered this. Probably not good for society considering it’s probably pushing amateur parkour people to do crazier things thinking that other people have done it.", "I definitely watched the video. I mean, the fact it wasn't a woman was only a small part of it. His main gripe was that the stunts weren't actually stunts. Like throwing the go pro rather than actually making the jump or that it was footage that was superimposed.", "Good luck to him. Those are all 100% legit.", "What you'll have instead is false horse riding, false racing, etc.\n\nStuntmen exist for a reason: To make scenes real.", "Content is content is content that exposes content made for content means for content and content", "They're damn fast to prove what's right and what's not, and don't even want to sit down 10 mins and watch the video.\n\nThey'll fight over it for days tho.", "My biggest question: What the hell is Salmon Bread?", "They are probably just a company hired to make an advert based around parkour and instead of going through the costs of liabilitys, insurance, lawful use of using some of these locations they just used editing. As soon as I found out it was for a advert, right towards the end of this video, I stopped caring.\n\n I understand that it would have been nice to use a female parkour athlete but they were probably limited in what they wanted to actually do and the shots where there was a real person no crazy parkour was actually performed so they most likely just hired a cheap model and took the first decently priced person they could find to do the walking along a roof shots.", "Who the fuck cares.", "How many commercials have you produced?", "The guy also goes to great lengths to show that that parkour itself is fake and is often just a camera being tossed out a window. That’s the point.", "So movies only fake stunts for things that aren't real? Got it.", "Ummm...can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.", "Many believe it's real. He shows that it's not. Where is the problem?", "Not just that, but several of the shots are not parkour. They’re a video of someone running or jumping superimposed into a rooftop or even just a camera thrown out a window.", "The point of the video is that they \"caught\" a stunt person faking parkour moves that they then composited into various scenes in order to produce an ad. No? Ridiculous premise.", "I thought the same exact thing.", "The one thing I thought about was, how a struggle he had making this video over 10 minutes...", "It can, but why? The purpose of an ad is to sell a product. They don't care about parkour. It's simply a way to advertise.\n\nThey want to make money, not lose it. If it's cheaper to film and edit fake parkour rather than film real parkour than that is that. Again, this isn't a commercial about parkour, they are just using it to sell their product.\n\nWhen Pizzahut films a commercial, they don't actually hire real employees. They are just actors. The production company making the commercial cares about selling Pizzahut pizza, they don't give two shits about accurately portraying anything.\n\nThere is too much we don't know about this. For example, for all we know they DID hire a women but she didn't show up for filming. Thus, perhaps they could only a find a male on short notice. Maybe this guy was a friend of someone who worked for the production company.... maybe he did it for free.... maybe it's a transwomen. Maybe, maybe, maybe.\n\nSuccessful commercials sell product, they don't necessarily accurately portray anything. Why? I'm guessing because you don't need to be accurate to a sell a product.", "It's like if they had someone juggle in an ad and all the balls were cgi and put in afterwards. Like, people know how to juggle. Just hire the correct actor. If it was a famous person that usually does their ads and they needed them to do a trick, that's one thing. But if the actor is going to be a no name person anyways, get the correct actor", "I watched the Matrix once.\n\nFake as fuck!", "Do you know what lox is? Lox is smoked salmon, thinly sliced that is usually put on bagels with cream cheese. I reckon this is what salmon bread is, only with bread and not a bagel.", "Why would a production company who is being paid to sell a product care about filming real parkour? All they care about is selling product via their commercial for as little money as possible.\n\nWhy not hire a women? There could be any number of reasons, but at the end of the day, it's almost certainly because it was easier and/or cheaper.\n\nEven for a production company that supports equal opportunity employment, they are still going to put profit first. If that means hiring a man, painting his nails, and editing like crazy, so be it. These people aren't working for justice and equality, they are working for money.... even if the former are important to them.\n\nDefine irony: the production company did hire a female, but she didn't show up on time for filming so they hired the only parkour actor they could find on ultra short notice, a male. This video now makes absolutely no sense. QED.", "Okay but what’s up with the attempt at a subliminal “subscribe” in the middle of the vid? I guess this guy is a manipulator teaching about manipulators", "Pizza hut isn't depicting people jumping out of a 4 story window and being totally ok. That's one of the issues here. It's making it seem all these stunts are real, and that can have negative consequences on a younger audience.", "rye bread, cream cheese, smoked salmon, garden cress", "Also any video that is conveniently 10 minutes and some seconds long so they can stretch out a short topic and make more ad money\n\nedit: couple of notes\n\n1- a mea culpa, this video's pretty good. The 'filler' comes later and is relevant, so whatever, it's fine.\n\n2- Yes I want a creator to get paid but if they're padding a video with useless/repetitive material strictly to increase revenue, they're taking the viewer's time. YOUR time is valuable. They get paid because YOU used your time on their video. You would complain if a movie or tv show was dragging; this is the same thing.", "I mean, there's scenes and there's scenes. And using CGI isn't inherently bad, but everyone knows that the real deal is better.\n\nIf we're not going to do real parkour we might aswell just use a billion jumpcuts to hide it. It's just sapping.", "Where did they claim the stunts were real exactly? ADs are well known for faking and using CGI there is nothing to expose if it didn't claim to be real in the first place. What's next? Is he going to expose movies for faking some stunts?\n\nAll I'm seeing here is a YouTuber that saw an opportunity to use an easy video to \"expose\" and get views.", "I think the counterpoint is ; \n\nWho cares? \n\nIt's a commercial. Is he going to debunk the geiko ads next? (\"doesn't even look like a gekko in this freeze frame, and there are plenty real ones they could have used!\")", "Didn’t even realize that was a thing but thanks for the tip. Will watch out for that. I’m all for supporting creators but not when it’s a lazy attempt at a cash grab.", "The hypocrisy here is amazing. This guy is calling out the video for being fake, meanwhile his OWN video has big red circles and arrows hovering over huge areas - as if we're supposed to believe they somehow just magically appeared there. \"Oh look, the shadow is wrong here!\" Let's not mention the massive red arrows pointing to it that conveniently help you understand what he's talking about. Not only that, but are we to believe he can magically stop time to illustrate his point?\n\nThis nonsense has to stop. There are amateurs out there making videos expecting to stop the reference video just with their minds so they can make a detailed analysis - all because this fraud posts videos where that happens, and he conveniently doesn't mention how he does that.\n\nIf you are considering getting into a fake-video-exposing career please know that manual control of the temporal experience and instantaneous real world directional highlight graphics do NOT happen spontaneously. They require some form of video editing software or at least some sticky tape.", "FR lol. He’s just exposing the parkour and the fact that they are obviously misleading people by making it seem like the girl is doing it. He doesn’t care that it’s an ad LOL", "????", "yeah my god these comments hurt to look at", "He censored his profanity and used the subscribe button art to cover his mouth. It's a fairly standard thing on Youtube.", "We live in a wild time…there is a market for someone to be a professional parkour video analyzer? What a great time for niche interests to thrive!", "Even then, hire the guy who can do it and composite the 2 people together! Its just disrespecting the talented people who work hard on it, thinking that CGI is a true easier replacement.", "Right? I get it it’s a fake video after the first few examples.", "To be fair to the above video, I actually am watching it and 4 minutes in it's not bad, he does get right into it. But yeah it's definitely a thing, you'll notice it on videos where they get a couple of minutes in and have barely touched on the topic.", "It seems like perhaps the parkour community cares.", "God forbid content creators get paid, right?", "Making gci juggling look good is probably harder than just learning to juggle lol", "It's the clickbait title. If it was \"Expert analyzes faked parkour videos, part 1\" few people would be annoyed, but a FAKE girl had to get EXPOSED instead. \n\nIt's irritating and provocative and turns some people against the video from the first second, and is 100% proven to improve Youtube success.", "Yes if they are wasting my time in the process.", "Why wait 7 mins into the video to reveal that this is an ad, and not someone seriously trying to fake their Parkour ability. This video is shitty clickbait. Fuck OP, and fuck that channel.", "It's a give and take. You're stretching a video out to 10 minutes with 7 minutes of filler? They tend to be boring and it takes forever to get the information I'm looking for. You would complain if a movie or tv show dragged, so what's the difference?", "Exectly!", "> a YouTuber that saw an opportunity to use an easy video to \"expose\" and get views.\n\nsuccess.", "I think the guy hosting the video is indignant because he doesn't understand that the makers of parkour girl are going for entertainment value, not reality. So they hire a man who can do crazier shit, they put staged interactions (\"stealing\" food from randos) and generally going over the top. It's like pornography - no one in real life has sex like in a porno, just as no parkour practitioner will run up the Eiffel tower in a dress.\n\nAlso, the dude should know never to have an erratically animated background video in a speaking, first-person shot. Horribly distracting.", "He does say that, but that isn't the focus of the video. It's more of a 'gotcha' video, where he exposes people trying to pass off their fake stuff as reality. \n\nHe could have ran with a headline about miscasting stunt people if he really wanted. Though even that point is weak, whose to say the production company could have afforded to fly in the local female talent.", "this video was so frustrating, just let the example play for fucks sake, constantly stopping and rewinding. \n\nNot sure how people believe that fake shit,", "#Pussypassdenied", "this video is so cringe. of course its fake, its straight out of a Jason stathem movie, runs through someones kitchen and steals their salmon bread.. \n\nand the editor is sooo mad because they hired a man to play a women, when a woman could of played a women.. white knighting will picking apart a clearly fake video", "lol, so she should fall out the window and then die? wtf kind of commercial is that?\n\nIf you're claiming children might jump out of a window because they watched a commercial then I submit 1. You don't have children and 2. You aren't giving children enough credit, i.e., they aren't stupid enough to jump out 4 story window because of a commercial. If that were true, kids would obviously be jumping out windows because, after all, this video went viral. In other words, if you were right, the proof would be in the pudding. But it isn't. Out of the tens of millions of total views the video has, zero children died by jumping out a window. If I'm wrong, shouldn't it be easy for you to prove me wrong with a single primary source???? .... Hmm, I WONDER why you aren't providing such a source.... I WONDER!\n\nMoreover, you could make the same exact argument about any commercial. Almost all commercials are filmed on sets with actors doing silly / crazy / wild / impossible things. The idea that the content is real or that kids should follow along is just silly. My children know without telling them that what they see on TV isn't real. My daughter knows she can't jump out the window and fly like Tinkerbell... even if Tinkerbell does that in her favorite movie. Or are you claiming Disney is trying to get my daughter killed?!?!\n\nI just watched a commercial break on TV and one commercial had a truck jumping over the grand canyon. Are you claiming this is wrong because it isn't real? It's wrong because it's obviously edited? It's wrong because an adult or child might attempt to jump a truck over the grand canyon?!?! Another one showed a kid's head exploding after eating a sour candy. I don't think anyone literally thinks their head will blow up if they eat this candy. Come on now, let's come back to reality.\n\nedit: lol @ anyone who thinks commercial are real.\n\nhttps://www.apa.org/pubs/reports/advertising-children\n\nAnd this falsifies your claim that children imitate actions they see on commercials. Studies found that opposite: children know commercials aren't real and very rarely do they imitate. If this wasn't the case, those kinds of commercials would have been made illegal long, long ago. Instead, most commercials showcase crazy, wild, silly, or impossible things. The point is to get your attention to sell a product, not accurately portray the world. Since there is no evidence that such commercials harm anyone, they are and will remain perfectly legal.", "It's basically the modern version of reading online cooking recipes. I just need to know the ingredients and the steps not the back story.", "His gripe is with the laziness of the production. Obvious photoshop, editing, cross dressing, and talent mistakes", "im ok with them, its actually dont hate the player hate the game..\n\nunfortunately the algo is the game and the creators are just trying to satisfy the algo.\n\nThe algo actually scans the thumbnails and human outlines and arrows will actually get your more views. it stemmed from the click bait days, now thats just the norm.. same. with 10 minutes.. it sucks when they stretch a movie with so much bloat just for the extra time.. \n\ni have YT premium so i never see ads. how many/long are the ads in a 10 min video?", "Since the actress (most likely an Instagram influencer) almost killed herself as pointed out in the video, it's a good thing to not let this shit slide, especially as an ad. \n\nThis is THE reason why almost every ad or clip is accompanied by \"this was made by professionals and stun actors, don't attempt it at your own\".\n\nI've seen recently a lass falling through 10 floors to her death, because she was attempting crap like this.", "Lox, aka cured salmon on toast/a bagel/etc, aka one of lifes greatest pleasures.", "I mean, wouldn't the fact that the girl doesn't even wear a go-pro in any of the shots be a tip off that the girl doesn't do the parkour?\n\nLike, I get the jist you're going for this is really picking low hanging fruit I feel. It's not like this is anything masquerading as being real if you read the description, nor is it a big studio, brand or production.", "Eventually he points out - this was an ad video. What's his next \"debunk\" gonna be, Hardcore Henry? And he's getting way too into the weeds when he never even mentioned she's not wearing a head camera at all. He's slowing things down, looking at little things, and then when he gets to the camera's shadow, he's really stretching \"If you look, you'll see a strange shadow. What is this shadow? I spent a long time looking at this shadow, wondering what it was, and eventually, it occurred to me what this shadow is! It's a camera on a stick!\" And the video is barely over 10 minutes - this guy is more of a scammer than the company that made the original ad video that he's \"debunking\".", "lol that one has an interesting explanation, but I still hate it. Apparently search engines don't really prioritize a page that doesn't have much text. My assumption is that they're far less engaging, and engagement is how you get that sweet revenue $$. Blogs are high engagement, as users tend to spend more time on the page.\n\nso the stories are to pad it with text so that a search engine sees it and slots it in with Blogs\n\nhonestly what I dislike more about this one is when the ingredents and steps are amongst the walls of text. If it's at the bottom, at least I can just scroll down .", "He's a videographer and editor who started out making parkour videos for the UK scene. I think this is just his side gig.", "There are many talented female freerunners, but how many are available, easy to find and in Paris?", "Let me guess, school was hard for you? Am I right?", "> All I'm seeing here is a YouTuber that saw an opportunity to use an easy video to \"expose\" and get views.\n\nGet easy views? You mean like making a video with fake stunts dressed as real ones?\n\nI hate both sides.", "1. This is an advertisement for make-up. Obviously the priority for the subject of the advertisement was for her to be extremely cute, in order to sell the make-up.\n2. I wouldn't say the editing was \"terrible\" or \"lazy\" or any of the other over-the-top ways he describes it. They're making an advertisement, not trying to fake the moon landing.\n3. The criticisms about not hiring a female parkour artist seem misplaced. The guy whose company did the shoot used himself for the stunts. And outwardly, the commercial is about a female doing extreme parkour. Was the guy's company supposed to incur extra expense to pay a female parkour artist for the sole reason of putting a few thousand dollars in her hands? Because publicly, it would have made zero difference.", "Also, a \"shocked\" face.", "Can we be honest. This isn't a guy exposing fake parkour. This is a guy talking about a ad and acting like he is \"exposing\" for clicks. \"How this ad was made\" video probably won't get as many views.", "Wait, are people actually thinking this video is real? It's basically a cute short film done in the style of a parkour video. No one with any sense believed it was real.\n\nUnless the people who made it are trying to insinuate that this was real, I'm more annoyed at this \"debunker\" who doesn't seem to understand he's picking apart fiction.", ">I mean, wouldn't the fact that the girl doesn't even wear a go-pro in any of the shots be a tip off that the girl doesn't do the parkour?\n\nI'm going to assume there's also a total lack of dated drum and bass music. True giveaway that someone isn't doing parkour.", "Who the fuck cares who cares?", "The point (if you even watched the video) was not that it was entirely fake in and of itself. It was the lengths they went to, to fake it for apparently no reason at all.\n\nThey had the female actor running in some spots across a real roof (even one example clip of her almost tripping, and probably dying if she did). They had paid male parkour stunt people to do some of the jumps and had them paint their nails and wear a dress to look like a female was doing it, when they could have just hired ACTUAL female parkour athletes to do the moves. So many editing mistakes in the actual commercial itself. They faked shots of them running along random roofs by editing people onto them, when they could have just done more real shots (why spend the time faking someone running up some random roof).", "Where did they claim the stunts were real exactly?\n\nanswer this one", "\"Exposing FAKE Parkour Girl on Rooftops of Paris\" is the title of the video", "The soijak thumbnail", "It's not that uncommon in parkour to do something with a go-pro for the POV then re-shoot without the go-pro for the wide shot.", "The problem with this video is that the host talks at you like you're a moron who believes the videos are real. I don't think they are real but I could still be interested in learning how they did it. Can I get a remake by captain disillusion over here? He makes it fun and not condescending.", "Probly couldnt insure the stunt performers doing the actual stunts and whatever parent company didnt sign off", "> The algo actually scans the thumbnails and human outlines and arrows will actually get your more views.\n\nDo you have a source for this? My understanding was that it's primarily based on showing it to some users and seeing what the click through rates are, and these are the ones that get clicked. But I also don't have a great source. Would be cool if you do!", "isn't that obvious? I mean even not bothered with details and if you think about it, there are camera cuts everywhere. what's that, a teleporting cameraman? this is like analyzing a matrix movie to prove its fake.", "Uploader of the fraud vid is La Fabrique Royale and fraud vid can be found at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGa8IKuDHTo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGa8IKuDHTo)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIt's a shame that La Fabrique Royale believes women are only useful as weak eye candy.", "If it's an ad, then who cares either way? Consider everything to be 100% fake. You're being sold a product.", "Your time is not that valuable.", "Use the skip button if impatient. I do it all the time.\n\nOTOH, even 'filler' can be enjoyable given the right pacing, editing, humour, script, etc.\n\nWatching content isn't a purely informational exchange.\n\nBut I get it... on average the quality of the content is lowered because creators are incentivized to pad their videos.\n\nOTOH, the overall quality of content increases when content creators can focus on creating content as their full time pursuit. And it goes up still when they can hire help to do the things they're not so good at and or are time poor.", "Imagine being a parkour analysis", "finally, some good fucking food", "RIP Craig", "Is it that lazy and terrible if someone needs to make an EXPOSE video to show people its fake?\n\nIt's just an ad, it doesn't need to be real. It's not trying to be real. If a lot of people think its real, then it did its job", "> But if the actor is going to be a no name person anyways, get the correct actor\n\nIt's not really a video about parkour; it's a commercial for a beauty box subscription service, so the real focus is on how she looks. The parkour is just to grab your attention. They hired an actor who looks a particular way, because that's the image they're trying to associate with the brand. So 'the correct actor' is the one who looks the way they want her to look first and foremost.\n\nPresumably they decided it was easier to find an actress who looks the way they wanted her to look and fake the parkour than it was to find a parkour expert who looked the way they wanted her to look.", "Are you even Xtreme if you aren't wearing a go pro.", "My favourite is the Macaulay Culkin shocked face. Like sir, you are a grown ass man. You cannot be doing that face here.", "Only if it includes wasting my valuable time….", "The hands lmao", "It's an advert, of course it's fake. If it was advertising a Parkour training course or something relevant then sure, outrage would be appropriate, but it's for a beauty box.", "That’s a shame because the guy in the video said theres plenty of women who do parkour and there’s no excuse for putting a man in a dress.", " He criticises the shot being done with string and a camera, complaining they didn't get someone to do the jump for real when it's quite obviously a jump that has an unacceptable risk of severe injury or death.\n\n It's interesting seeing the methods used to achieve the shots and some of the gaffes, but complaining about the advert being fake is a bit nonsensical.", "When was the last time you watched a parkour video? lmao", "[You shut your whore mouth!](https://tenor.com/bAkHo.gif)", "He even does this fake outrage that they used a male stunt person in a dress/painted nails rather than hire a female stunt person. This entire video is stupid.", "Even before you need to analyse any shot frame by frame: the editing itself is stupidly fake. \nHow come there a camera person waiting for her among bee keepers?", "Yeah this is dumb. A girl doing parkour????? Impossible!", "He critiqued that they could've just paid an actual female parkour athlete to do the stunts as well as the shots instead of a model and faking stunts. Most of those stunts were doable by female athletes", "The algorithm is a mean mistress.", "Isn't this kind of like arguing about who the right actor is to play a role in a movie? There are so many options and so many reasons to pick one over another. There's no sense in arguing about it.", "Yeah, and they could use real guns on movie sets if they really wanted to nail the realism...", "That's because they want an attractive face as a front. It really doesn't matter if they use a women to do the parkour or not. No one see this commercial and think this would be much better if is real parkour and done by a professional woman. They used an attractive woman to sell a product", "well...duh. His point was that instead of having model + stunt double you could have just found a female parkour athlete to do both.", "Are you saying there's something wrong with crossdressing?", "ON the plus side, the girl was really cute.", "Thing is nothing he exposed is anything new. People already know it is fake, and the girl in the video isn't doesn't the parkour. Also it really doesn't matter if they actually hired a female professional to do the parkour.", "Nobody can do what she's doing though. It's ALL an illusion. So why should they be concerned with anything besides the final product?", "Nobody can do this.", "what? we dont have black mirror style memory to video interface yet?", "Even at [1:04](https://youtu.be/D9UbIynGdsQ?t=64) when the model is running along the rooftops, you can tell she isn't a very experienced traceur. Experienced traceurs train for hundreds of hours to gain mastery of their proprioception, knowing where their feet will land without having to eyeball every step. \n\nShe moves as though they trained a few hours before the shoot, running her through their preset route. Honestly, when was the last time you saw a well-respected traceur run on rooftops [like this](https://imgur.com/qgplHCN).\n\nParkour can be a hazardous \"sport\" to get into if the only reference people have are videos like these glorifying high-risk stunts, trespassing, and just overall reckless behavior. It's frustrating seeing what is essentially a martial art turned into a people thrill-seeking and jumping off buildings for no reason.\n\n\"When young trainees come to see me and give me videos telling me to check out what they are doing, I just take the tape and throw it away. What I'm interested in is what the guy's got in his head, if he has self-confidence, if he masters the technique, if he has understood the principles of Parkour. I can't deal with guys who do Parkour because they saw videos on the Internet and thought it was kinda cool and want to do even better.\" -David Belle\n\n/rant\n\nvideo is way too long", ">almost killed herself as pointed out in the video\n\nIdk if her almost stumbling, not even that, is something that I would consider 'almost killing herself.' Dude just wanted to sprinkle in a bit more stuff to pretend to be outraged about.", ">this is like analyzing a matrix movie to prove its fake.\n\nWait.. What? I've seen those documentaries 3 or 4 times and haven't seen anyone suggest they are fake.", "Plenty of women doesn't mean plenty of women who look exactly like this girl. The point of the ad was to pick the model who fits what they want.", "Totally agree.", "Also, the guy in this video is being a gatekeeper for something that's incredibly dangerous and illegal. Nothing wrong with parkour, but the particular stunts they did in this video would be even worse if they weren't fake. Jumping through someone's apartment window and stealing their food should've been a dead giveaway that this isn't real, on top of what you mentioned.", "Also capitalized WORDS to really GRAB your ATTENTION is super annoying.", "Did you know that in the Fast and Furious movies, that the actors didn't actually fight on the wing of an airplane?", "For everyone that still doesn't get this video, pretend its a corridor digital piece explaining cgi in a bad film. This is an experienced editor explaining how these shots are constructed", "The talking meerkat in the compare the market advert is also fake I think", "It's something we all hate, but unfortunately [clickbait really works for increasing click rates](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng).", "\"expose\" is a little clickbaity, but honestly I feel like that's just the water we swim in with youtube now, so I can forgive that if the video has substance to it.\n\nI felt like his main points weren't necessarily complaining that the video \"duped\" anybody or that it's wrong to use CGI, it was more that they were super lazy in the production and editing process: dressing a male stuntman in drag instead of hiring an equally qualified stuntwoman (I was curious about if this would fly with the union in the states, [this is all I could really find](https://deadline.com/2018/02/stuntwoman-wigging-charge-shakes-male-dominated-industry-sag-aftra-1202279591/)); throwing a go-pro out of a window instead of using the stuntman you had with you; having the untrained actor leap onto a roof and nearly trip, I've been on Indie sets where multiple people would have shut that down lmao. Honestly I don't know if they even used CGI in this, it was all just really shitty editing and green screen. \n\nand keep in mind this guy's channel is dedicated to parkour. So to his intended audience it may be received as more of a \"look how ridiculous and outlandish these fake parkour stunts are\" not as a groundbreaking investigative piece\n\nAlso, typing this comment I was reminded of [Sarah Jones, the 27 y/o camera assistant who died on the set of the \$never finished\$ film Midnight Rider in 2014. She was struck by a train after producers never bothered to get a permit and instead filmed on a live railroad track on a trestle bridge.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/midnight-rider-accident-sarah-jones-death-gregg-allman-685976/)\n\nRemember y'all, whatever industry you're in and job situation you've got, you want to be able to make it to the next one. Always be your own biggest advocate (and join the union so you have thousands of others down to advocate for you too. But even then, look out for numero uno). As my former coworker and mentor, 728 burnout, Berndog once told me: \"Look, if it's between you or me, well I'm sorry kid, but it's gonna be me. I got eight kids, you know that right?\"", "You can have staged elements without the parkour being fake.", "I ain’t clicking that shit lmaooo", "> they're taking the viewer's time. YOUR time is valuable.\n\nidk about you man but if I am bored with a video I can just switch it. I didn't really feel like he padded this video much though. Unless its a recipe video, I don't really care.", "I was born on a farm in Tennessee. My father was an angry man with 3 fingers on each hand...", "WHY is that a point?!\n\nHow do you know they didn't hire a female parkour actor and she didn't show up? Maybe all they could find at the last minute was a male. Or maybe this parkour guy is the husband of someone who was working on the commercial. Maybe he was desperate and did the shoot for half the price. Maybe, maybe, maybe. We don't know.\n\n\"Well... duh\" should be your response here. Obviously we don't know. His anger that they didn't hire a women is based on countless assumptions. Remove those assumptions and the problem disappears.\n\nTo reiterate: His point is invalid because it rests on assumptions that we do not know to be true. Again, they literally could have initially hired a women for all we know... which would prove how silly your claim is.", "The fact that he singles out a fake parkour girl rather than a fake parkour ad is... well, telling in ways that many people may not want to comment on or will otherwise brush off.", "They do use real guns.\n\nThe ammo is fake.", "You're missing his point though. The fact that the overall scenario is fake was never at issue. Of course it's going to involve a scripted route, multiple takes, a production crew with preset camera angles, running through pre-approved areas made to look clandestine. Even from the perspective of the ad, we're not meant to think \"oh this chick actually just stole someone's breakfast in real life\". The mix of POV shots and wide shots gives cinematic immersion even though it gives away the runner isn't wearing a camera so that she has the beauty brand aesthetic. That part isn't being disguised. \n\nThe issues are that they used an entirely different person for the wide shots instead of just having a female parkour athlete take on both roles, and that they mixed real parkour with faked shots to make stunts that are physically impossible look real.", "For anyone else as dim as I, the word he covered up was probably just \"fucking\". I was sitting here thinking, oh it might be something like \"straight\", \"a straight wire\" but the algorithm will think it's sexuality stuff and mark it as controversial. No. No, it was probably just \"fucking\".", "You must be fun at parties.", "All I can think of is Michael Scott straight up killing his own ass in the current day version of that [parkour bit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kvw2BPKjz0). Instead of jumping for the refrigerator boxes, he would have just gone head first out of a fourth story window...\n\nHonestly it's surprising the ad doesn't have any 'professional bla bla, do not attempt' kind of language.", ">idk about you man but if I am bored with a video I can just switch it\n\nNo one said you can't; that's irrelevant to my point", "Are you not entertained???", "/r/whoosh", "So your claiming a production company spent more money on their commercial in order to make it as fake as possible? Sorry, that obviously isn't true or rational.\n\nHow do you not understand that commercials are about selling product? They aren't real life stories of non-fiction. Someone watching this commercial isn't going to think, \"Holy shit, that parkour is amazing! If it's real, I'm definitely going to buy whatever this product is. If the parkour isn't real, I probably won't buy it.\"\n\nHow do you not understand that a production company is going to spend as little money as possible to make their commercial? Seriously, where is the rocket science?\n\nYou're saying they should spend more money to film real parkour, even though it's way easier, faster, and cheaper to fake it via post-production. That makes absolutely no sense when the point of the commercial is to sell a product that has nothing to do with parkour. The production company wants to make the best commercial they can while increasing their own profit. That won't happen if they spend outrageous amounts of money filming with real people, in real locations, doing dangerous things. These people have families to feed.... accurately portraying parkour in their commercials is one of the last things on their minds.\n\nI can't get over this.... how do you not understand how money works?\n\n>why spend the time faking someone running up some random roof\n\nbecause it's faster, cheaper, and easier to do it that way. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to actually film that? This isn't a $250 million Marvel movie for fucks sake. It's a commercial that likely cost a few tens of thousands of dollars. Just the insurance on a stunt like that would be far greater than the total cost of the commercial. Do you even realize how many permits would be needed to film something like that? Not to mention that the person could get seriously injured or even killed. They can't die or get injured in post-production edits.", "Would it help if I circled the link in red?", "You are not stumbling over a curb, you are stumbling on a slanted roof 30-40 meters above the ground, without a safety harness. That person has no place to be there, they are not trained, neither experienced. \n\nThis is how people die in a really stupid way.\n\nDo I need to send you videos how people died stumbling like that? When you lose balance and gain momentum, it's quite easy, honestly.\n\n[In this video](https://youtu.be/taK3q6YeMzk?t=31) the person obviously didn't die, but you can see how even without momentum, the situation can go from good to bad in a short amount of time.", "If I’m watching an ad I just assume it’s all staged, I doubt anyone serious is looking at ads to see parkour performances.", "Agreed. I saw the 10:01 and immediately closed the video.", "The fact that he doesnt say it’s an advertisement until the end of the video makes it click bait though. He intentionally made it seems as if she was trying to pass the moves off as her own.", "so that someone can die on set and then have your name for beauty box plastered all over photos of a dead guy or girl (other countries outside of the us just print and show the dead bodies on the news) yeah no.", "Exactly: FAKE Tooth Fairy EXPOSED!!!!", "also the classic 10:01 run time, that just screams they had to stretch to reach that number.", "Hi i made this thumbnail, its unfortunately the game you have to play on youtube... I hate it too.", "Reddit has no understanding of real-world business.\n\n“wHy nOt jUsT FiLm ReAL pArKouR AthLeTes?”\n\nGee… I don’t know… maybe because they didn’t want to. Due to budget or time constraints. Who the fuck knows. Maybe real parkour looks stupid and fake parkour looks hella friggin’ DOPE", "https://www.reddit.com/r/DunderMifflin/comments/cec448/i_was_without_internet_for_a_while_decided_to_use/\n\nOr a random redditor can just add the balls in later.", "But this is Reddit and real world practical things don’t apply, everything has to be ideal and perfect because we as a society simply cannot settle for less", "Erm ... I really don't care that it's fake (I would have assumed it was - at least much of it). \n\nAs I don't do or really care that much about parkour, I would never have spotted the things this guy was upset about. It looked like a cool video to me.", "There is some space to argue about who the right actor is to play a role in a movie.\n\nThe video talked about how it’s messed up that they put a man in a dress to play a woman’s role. Sort of reminds me of putting a white actor in blackface instead of just hiring a person of color. \n\nKudos to Disney for extending their casting process in order to hire people of color for the Aladdin remake!", "How do you stage jumping out of a 4 story window and not dying without it being fake?", "They still could've hired a woman to do the stunt work though. If they had done that, they would've at least been cutting between a woman and a woman instead of a woman and a man in a dress.", "I like my backgrounds athankyou", "Leave it to Reddit to decide where the threshold of Real is. Reddit is the decider of what’s real enough", "Simple, you don't do that scene.", "im not annoyed it was fiction, im annoyed they did it really shittily instead of using actual female parkour athletes...", "It says \"exposing fake\" when anyone brained would assume it's fake without needing to dissect it.", "That's why I said -\n\n> the particular stunts they did in this video would be even worse if they weren't fake.", "bro this isn't the court of law; people are allowed to make assumptions lmao. Yes you can throw out a million hypotheticals, but why. Is that your strategy for every argument. \n\nCan you at least imagine why he would want a female athlete to have been hired?", "Wait you mean movies aren’t real?", "Thank you for getting the entire reason I made this video... Its not about the fact adverts are fake, its about the fact that the parkour in the advert is so fake.", "The Matrix is real", "Honestly, whenever someone says something is fake, I just don’t care. Can’t something be “fake” and still really cool?", "James Bond is real dude", "> Many believe it's real.\n\nThat's great - no harm done then. The problem is with the clickbait title and arrogance of the youtuber.", "They were so concerned about having the right “look” that they endangered that model by having her perform stunts she wasn’t qualified to do. They made themselves a bunch of extra work by having two actors instead of one. They made shooting and editing more complicated than necessary as well. It would have been better to try and find a proper parkour/ stunt woman.", "For you, who doesn't get the backlash: it doesn't require an \"exposing fake\" video to know this is fake, or wven just assuming it is.\n\nThrowing a gopro out of a window is cheaper than filming and hiring someone to really do it.", "I didn’t watch the video but if they didn’t do 100% real parkour then that is a racist ad and we as a society can not let these injustices slide", "You could totally do that jump for real (source, have done similar in professional productions).", "99.99% of commercials are real, it’s the law. The fact that this ad skips the law is illegal, there is a reason why it is a crime", "Can I get an arrow too?", "Ehm........it's CLEARLY fake.....and I don't think it's trying to hide that XD \n\nThe production value, the 100s of camera angles.....what..... how long did this dude spend proving its fake XD", "What? Link me to the YouTube analysis. A feature of that high profile would never go that route", "Bad CGI EXPOSED", "legally doing those stunts is waaaaaaaaaay more expensive than not.\n\nOBVIOUSLY.", ">the point of the video going over redditors' head. what else is new.", "I've worked in advertising for almost 15 years and you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.", "is everyone on this website 14 years old dear god", "this is dumb, why would they risk injuring people by having them jump over roof tops for a commercial instead of throwing a gopro across the roof.", "Isn't all parkour pretty much amateur? Not many people trespass on rooftops professionally", "wow parkour i love that stuff it's so cool 👍👍👍💯💯", "No. It's the host of the video and you who are making the assumptions. I pointed out several assumptions as examples... I didn't actual make assumptions in my argument as you are doing.\n\nLook, it's seriously this simple: Does this video make any sense if the production company actually did initially hire a female?\n\nIf your answer is no, then this video is pointless. He (and you) are saying they should have hired a female when in reality they actually did! How can you not understand how ironic that would be... that it completely contradicts your entire opinion?\n\nThe only way he (and you) can be right is if they could have hired a women just as easily and cheaply as a man but decided not to. In that case, OF COURSE YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! However, since we don't know that.... the point is moot. You're literally complaining about something that might not exist. What's the point in that? For example, we can also assume the production assistant might have been sexually assaulted..... but WHY? Could that have happened? Sure. But creating a video on it would be a pretty strange thing to do. In reality, we don't know if she was sexually harassed and we also don't know why they hired a male. A video shouldn't be made about either because it entirely based on assumption.\n\nYou can't be mad that they didn't hire a female if they actually tried to. You also can't be mad that a For-Profit production company would put profits above hiring a women for this particular role. They aren't a women's non-profit, they are literally a company trying to make money so their employees can feed their families. They aren't going to spend more money to film real parkour and then pay their employees less. What sense does that make to you?\n\nYou keep wanting to make this about equality, but it has nothing to do with that. I did some research and it turns out the production company is run mostly by women, yet this commercial only has one man in it. Thus, the vast majority of the money for the commercial is going to... WOMEN. How is that unfair? How is that sexist? Again, you might be fabricating a reality that doesn't exist because you assume too much.\n\nI just can't get over that some of you believe that commercials should be real, no matter the cost. Capitalism and logic be damned. It literally contradicts the entire point of a commercial, i.e., to sell product.\n\nThere is a reason why the entire commercial industry works this way and it sure as hell ain't because it's harder or more expensive.", "More people need to be familiar with editing tricks out there because they get got on a lot of CLEARLY fake videos. This guy does a great job showing the trickery they used. So many cuts in this video.", "The youtube monetisation requirement is 8 mins btw.", "It's pretty common in skate and BMX vids to do the same trick multiple times and film from a different angle (pov, wide fish eye, follow cam, looking down rail, etc) so I have no reason to believe parkour would be any different.", "I’ve worked in advertising for 16 years. Oversaw national campaigns for Coke, Domino’s, McDonald’s, NFL, etc.\n\nI mentored ADs and CWs who have went on to win at Cannes and run their own successful agencies.\n\nI have a school named after me at a top state university with over 50,000 students.\n\nDon’t fucking tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about.", "You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.", "Oh boy that \"men in a dress\" joke is going to get shitty people here", "Didnt say that or imply it.", "Third thing: Videos that are conveniently 10:01.", "Who is the model in the video? Surely on her instagram or whatever you could see she's not got parkour experience.", "Yep. It's not that it was faked, it was that it was presented as though it were real footage. It was clearly presented the exact same as actual go-pro POV clips. It's doubly egregious because it's exposed that they faked that it was a woman doing the stunts and instead had a man in a dress.", "Hard to decide which is worse - fake video ad, or \"FAKE VIDEO EXPOSER\" making money from other people's work.", "Not really. I mean, we can argue about who we think is the right actor.\n\nIf you're making a movie, that's your project. You can cast whoever you want. I don't have any say in the matter. If you don't use the actor I think you should use, I'm not \"exposing\" you by presenting my argument for why I think you should have used a different actor.", "I completely forgot about this. Thank you lol", "[It's all real!!!!](https://youtu.be/UHl6yPL0800?t=75)", "I think a lot of people are receiving this video as someone finding it on r/ videos and not his intended audience of parkour fans. I agree the title is clickbait, but I could see the content being meant in a more \"look how ridiculous and lazy these fake parkour stunts are\" to viewers who can tell why it's so ridiculous and find it funny. I don't think it's intended to stir up controversy.\n\nAt least that's how I perceived it, I am not a parkour enthusiast and haven't seen this guy's videos before so I could be wrong. I thought it was interesting though, he brought up good points about the production company using a stuntman in drag instead of an equally capable stuntwoman, and that they had an untrained actor leap onto a rooftop. I dunno", "20 million views for proving an advertisement is fake?...", "It's very common to unattach the camera and do stunts again to look more natural.", "proper man hands", "I'm confused...isn't this exactly what movies do all the time? We all know Tom Cruise didn't actually climb that mountain in Mission Impossible, but it's entertainment nonetheless.", "The only og Parkour guy out there: my boy Matt hoss 😍", "I think it's pretty obvious from her 3rd person shots that the actress isn't a freerunner. The way she moves exposes her lack of trained balancing. She looked wobbly and unsure on a rooftop.", "Maybe to people who are familiar with filmmaking, as well as those who are familiar with parkour. As someone, who's not familiar with either of those, no, it's not obvious.\n\nHonestly, the thing that was most obvious to me was the way she was running on the roofs, quite unathletically.", "I mean, its relevant to your point of valuable time. If I just want some background videos playing I'm not too keen on if it is wasting my time. If it is too boring for even that I will skip it. It inherently good feedback for content creators since they see these metrics. \n\nI understand your point about encouraging quality content filled videos though. I don't treat youtube with the same attention as movies or tv though.", "He makes a valid point that they could have at least hired a proper female parkour athlete for the real stunts.", "what the hell are you talking about", "Name Scond, Rames Mond.", "The dudes arms with nail polish hahaha", "Of all the things people get their panties in a knot for.\n\nFakour Girl was more entertaining than this video or the comments.", "You can have edits and staging in a parkour video and still show actual parkour. The point here is that most of the parkour isn't even real - it's just trick photography and rotoscoping.", "That is absurd. Even my 6 year old knows that she can't fly like Tinkerbell, no matter how many times she watches that movie.\n\nYour assertion only makes sense if most people who watched the video thought it was real. However, that isn't the case. NO ONE watching this COMMERCIAL thought it was real. No one. This guy literally made a 10 minute video about how obviously fake it is... but if it's so obvious, why you are shocked that it's fake?\n\nSince this is a commercial, of course it's fake. The idea that millions of people were assuming this was real is just wrong. Nobody watches commercials thinking that they are real. If you do, you are the minority by a long shot.", "That's not what he is proving \"fake\". What he is proving that is fake is that they didn't even hire a woman, but had a man in a dress do the stunts...", "Oh! haha 😄", "The desperation to get mid-video ads with ten and some seconds has made unsubscribe from channels.", "Yesterday", "that's 4 minutes I won't get back", "But what difference does it make? If the model is polish do they need to find a polish woman stunt person? Do they need to match height? Religion? Sexual orientation? The stunt person isn't being seen. And I'm all for hiring women if that's the best person for the job but I'm definitely against hiring a woman just because she's a woman.", "Art is not created in a vacuum. You cast actors that are members of society. The film is released to the public. A movie is a product and consumers will have an opinion about it. \n\nThis video has the goal of making people think a girl is running around doing parkour. It's a makeup ad which means the \"reality\" of the video is built on the idea that the person is a girl. Showing that the stuntperson is not a girl is exposing a truth that editing was supposed to hide.", "you'd be surprised what children think is real. The twelve year old next door wouldn't accept that Lionel Messi was paid a lot of money to wear his brand of football boots when I told him how sponsorships work. The child was adamant that Messi just really liked the brand.", "Satire?", "IMHO you shouldn't be suggesting to people that a stunt; that would kill you if you tried it, is actually possible to pull off.", "Trying to have it both ways here.\n\nYou say it's wrong because they are portraying it as real, but the guy in the video specifically says no one would believe the 4 story diving shoulder role was real. in fact, throughout the entire video he is pointing how extremely obvious it is that it's fake. Moreover, anyone who watches commercials thinking that what they are seeing is real are straight up insane. Do those people think movies are real too? Do they believe in the infinity stones just because they watched Avengers?\n\nSo which is it? You seem to be saying it's both real and obviously fake.\n\nThe point of the commercial was to introduce you to a product. The commercial HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with parkour or women doing parkour or youtube or youtube upvotes. Why in God's name does it matter if a women or a male dressed up like a women is trying to sell you something? Would you not buy Warhead candies if you found out that they don't actually make your head explode?!?!?! In case you didn't know, Warheads don't make you blow up.... but when that happens in the commercials it does get kids attention... WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!! The commercial isn't about heads exploding.... it's about fucking candy. NO ONE is surprised that they didn't die after eating it. Why not? BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW COMMERCIALS SELL PRODUCT, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ACCURATE OR REAL!!\n\nI seriously don't believe that some of you take commercials literally, even though many people are claiming that. My daughter knows better than that and she is 6 years old.", "Well for one, you would see a woman's hands consistently and wouldnt see a man's veiny hands in the ad...", "Not sure what is more impressive, parkour, fake parkour or debunking fake parkour, each one seems to take it all a bit further.", ">BUT WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT\n\n#IT'S CALLED PRODUCTION QUALITY!!!!", "Ads are fake shock horror, let's break them all down!", "Did you notice it in the ad on first viewing? That's up to the company making the ad. Yes. If you really want to fool the audience you could have also made the model actually do all this. LOL", "As an experienced editor I feel qualified to say that no it's not. At best he points out some continuity issues where some cheap fx is used. What it actually is is a dude trying to manufacture outrage at an obviously fake ad. If he made another video and called it \"Did you know Red Bull DOESN'T ACTUALLY give you wings?!\" and overlayed it with him drawing circles on Travis Pastrana's back to point that he does not, in fact, have wings. I think would be a much better comparison.", "Why won't people just cater to my short attention span and give me what I want whilst making no profit at all for their efforts??", "shhhhhhhh, go get some popcorn and hope no one reads your comment.", "Agreed.", "I’m sorry your feelings are hurt.", "And quite possibly could've killed herself by stumbling and falling off balance. I don't know why everyone ITT think hiring a professional female parkour athlete would cost so much more than hiring a professional actress/model. In fact it probably cost more to hire the latter.", "You sound like a guy who took the blue pill.", "that 4 story drop is a 1 and done kind of deal though", "People want to watch videos made with passion not something that was made to meet a deadline.", "Since he doesn't work in the commercial industry I don't see why his opinion would matter.\n\nHow does he know they were lazy? What if they simply had a very low budget, a male friend who agreed to do the parkour for free, and their post-production team were made of novices fresh out of trade school? That would perfectly explain the \"obvious photoshop, editing, cross dressing, and talent mistakes.\" Being new at something doesn't make you a bad person. Having a small budget doesn't mean you aren't allowed to make a commercial.\n\nSo yeah, his gripe makes no sense. He is ASSUMING they purposefully didn't hire a female. He is ASSUMING that the editors are experts of the highest quality, but that they just decided to do a shitty job. He is ASSUMING all these things and more.\n\nAny numbers of scenarios could explain why it's fake, why it looks fake, and why they would use a man dressed up as a women.\n\nSo again, he doesn't have a legitimate gripe.... he's just whining about things that might not even exist in reality.\n\nLastly, in what universe is it wrong or immoral to make a shitty commercial?! Seriously, what sense does that claim make?", "Yeah. One and done permanently", "> What I'm interested in is what the guy's got in his head, if he has self-confidence, if he masters the technique, if he has understood the principles of Parkour.\n\nI'm not gonna lie, this is pretty cringe. As far as I know Parkour is taken about as serious as a yoyo competition. So this comes off pretty pretentious.", "You'll never guess who it was!", "That’s related to Adsense and search rankings. You seeing the recipes with all that bullshit specifically because they rank better. The ones with just pictures and ingredients and steps are literally pushed down search rankings lol", "Andy is the one that jumps into the boxes.", "If you ask me, this all makes it more impressive.", "I mean you're not supposed to freeze-frame ads to check if they're real.", "The crocodile one was", "It's Veritasium, one of the best channels on youtube. And a very informative video. Highly recommend you click it.", "The worst the producers can be accused of is poor production quality because of some \"glaring mistakes\". But I guess they didn't assume someone would freeze-frame the ad to check if it's real or not. I remember an [ad with Larry Bird and Michael Jordan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oACRt-Qp-s) and the shots were obviously fake, including the fake McDonalds burger. Would someone expose it as fake?\n\nThe truth is they have specific budget, time restrictions and they need to stay within both. It's not worth doing an ultra-realistic parkour video, risk injuries and damages just for an ad, and he even acknowledged the ad went viral which means it was very successful.", "The biggest giveaway that it was fake was every shot of the female running, she runs so daintily like she's walking in egg shells while every shot from the body cam the runner is in a full blown sprint.", "I was about to scoll past your comment, but damn, you got my attention. TBH I'm a little disappointed you didn't include more filler.", "I'm sorry the internet doesn't cater to you. It must be really difficult", "\"This does my nut\"", "Hi Bill.", "Not really - While yes, there is some castings that while not 100% aesthetically (or otherwise) perfect - hit in other ways. In this instance - its kind of dumb that they hired a man when as its stated there are many female parkour athletes who could do it - if they couldn't that's a whole different story, right? Then its getting someone who can do it over fitting the bill perfectly. Though... If you're going to monetize off the scene - at least respect it.", "Knowing that the whole video is basically a commercial does it matter? It's fake, who cares what sex the person doing parkour is.", "Idk what thet is", "Ok u might be rite lol", "I think he's the only one that thought that was real.", "It was a really interesting watch, actually!", "Must be a slow day to make a video about this.", "Yeah, I feel the same. This entire time I thought this video was exposing a famous parkour person. Someone who's made lots of money parading to be an amazing parkour athlete. When I found out it was just an advertisement I realize the only deception was this video itself lol. They could've mentioned it was an ad in the first place. It being an ad for something else entirely completely changes things for me. This was just an ad featuring parkour stunts. Like, this famous NBA christmas shooting commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYEHUOpwNvE makes basketball look real but edits it obviously because it's an ad. Nobody was like, WOW, they didnt actually make those shots! They lied!", "Fortunately I have life outside of the internet! Don’t worry you wouldn’t understand!", "> Since he doesn't work in the industry I don't see why his opinion would matter.\n\nDid you watch the video? At the beginning he says he's been shooting parkour for over ten years.", "[How's This?](https://i.imgur.com/99f2FaZ.png)", "Huge liability difference between having someone jump between buildings and throwing a $300 camera between buildings. It's a commercial production, it's all about the money.", "How about this one?\n\n[7 surprising ways content creators get you to watch their videos. Number 5 will blow your mind.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng)", "In Labyrinth David Bowie's character had to contact juggle a crystal ball in one scene. Contact juggling is really hard to learn. An experienced juggler would have to practice for months just to learn it. So they faked it by having a real juggler's hands in front of Bowie.", "Appropriation. It's why we can't hire a man to play a women's role, a blond to play an Asian, a red head to play an African American. When they needlessly fake something, they're taking the role away from someone.", "Because they want to sell to women or horny straight men?", "I don’t need a 10 minutes attention craving analysis to know what is going on a video that is almost an ad", "It's fake, you can tell by the miniscule details surrounding the cgi meerkat. But it also gives a bad impression to people who want to hire talking meerkats to improve their business.", "It's an ad - of course they faked as much as possible.", "Wait till he learns they didn't actually go back to the future to make back to the future.", "Did you watch the video? It's about a production company making a commercial for a product, it has nothing to do with showcasing parkour.\n\nBy industry I meant production company.... obviously. Again, the commercial has absolutely nothing to do with parkour. They made a commercial for a product, they weren't making a video about parkour.\n\nWhy would someone who shoots parkour understand anything about making a commercial??\n\nedit: thumbs down because you can't accept reality? That's your bad, bro. If you can explain why someone who shoots parkour automatically makes them an expert in making commercials than I'll admit I was wrong. otherwise, why are you acting like a cry baby?", "It really is and I know how much cause that's how I get paid.\n\nBut seriously, everyone's time is valuable... what is this now?", "Next you'll be telling me the avengers didn't really fight Thanos", "Stop projecting son", "My point is that they don't play drum and bass in parkour videos.", "So a production company is going to spend money they don't have because YOU want better quality? And that makes how?!\n\nAre they supposed to cast a magic spell for a bigger budget or better trained staff? Seriously, wtf?\n\nI could make the same argument about your comment. There's no quality. You could have put in more effort. You could have used proper grammar. Using your own argument I should be whining that your comment isn't high enough \"quality\" for me.\n\nMarvel movie stunts aren't real, but no one would claim those movies aren't of the highest production value. They are some of the most expensive movies ever made and have the highest paid industry specialists working on them. It makes no difference that the stunts are fake. How does this not prove you wrong?", "But why is he so mad and \"exposing\" it? It's an ad, of course it's not real. Just like movies.", "There are no winners here.", "I dont have any, i remember hearing about it somewhere, Maybe Linus tech tips or something.. thats why you see in 90% of thumbs the white/ or colored outline of the body... it also might of been h3h3h.", "They did need an athlete to achieve what they created. Without one, they'd just have the shark fin Go Pro move.", "I can already imagine arguing with people on reddit asking \"Muh WhY WouLD ShE faKe iT\"?", "He was dedicated! The editor, however…", "It would have been negligent to have someone who isn't trained attempt the stunts shown in the video (not including the faked ones).", "Oh, I agree. My only guess is they wanted her face or already had a contract with her and the parkour runner they hired bid low.", "And this is how you do and prove a faked video.\n\nSome of the pressed plebs in /r/UFOs should take note.", "Cause she's dead", "Or, you know, they might be a small production company who had a tiny budget, an inexperienced team, and a male friend who agreed to do the parkour for free. Surely that would explain away all your issues with the video, yes?\n\nBut that wouldn't get you as many clicks... sooo.... might as well make a misleading video instead.", "Wow. Now do the Bourne movies.", "And how many look like a model?", "Might as well claim he is \"exposing\" the magic industry for fucks sake!\n\nIs he going to make a video about exposing Santa Clause next??\n\nedit: lol, even my 6 year old understands that commercials aren't real. It's hard to fathom that so many people here have less ability to reason than my 6 year old. Next you people will be complaining that the Producer of Harry Potter is a moron for not using real magic in the movie. For fucks sake people... opinions are wonderful but many of you are just bullshitting. Commercials aren't real, never were, and never will be. The idea that they are real and that we should take them as reflections of reality is absurd and ridiculous to the MEGA EXTREME.\n\nBelieving that commercials are real is exactly the same as believing in magic or the easter bunny. I fear for any human being that thinks commercials accurately represent reality. To be that dumb would be hard to explain.", "The video description says it is a commercial, so I don't think there was any deception.", "I'm not too worried about people seeing this and trying it themselves; I'm more worried about the (lack of) safety protocols they had when filming. For any stunt, big or small, I would hope that professionals on set would be there to advise actors and actresses on best technique to guarantee their safety. I'm assuming this wasn't exactly the case since it was pointed out that her landing technique wasn't safe and could've led to ankle injury. I'm sure the actress in her mind probably thought it was harmless enough of a stunt, but that seems like a big failure on the safety on set.", "ya that's the joke", "You mean like Samuel L. Jackson playing Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.?", ">Plenty of women doesn't mean plenty of women who look exactly like this girl.\n\nDude. I'm sure there was one who looked more like her than a man in a dress.\n\nThey could have kept the model and used a parkour stunt woman for the action shots.", "That's my point. It's ALL fake. So it doesn't matter who they use to do the stunts.", "Parkour is dumb. It ruined all the new james bond movies.", "traceuses will have veiny arms/hands just like the dudes. same thing with rock climbers.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nAnd the only people who noticed the veins are ones who paused the video and tried to analyze it. I don't think advertisers care to that extent.", " Imagine there was a commercial featuring baseball, but if you were an avid baseball fan, you would know that the batter didn't really make contact in one shot, the catcher had 2 gloves on for some reason, the pitcher was facing the wrong way, the umpire wasn't wearing proper gear, etc.\n\n It would feel lazy and maybe even offensive.", "Almost killed herself = almost tripped", "If they look shit and could have been done better, sure, that could be just as interesting to watch.", "I just clicked the video, didn’t expand the description. Regardless, it’s not readily apparent unless you read the description, and they don’t mention it being a commercial until halfway through the video. I’m more miffed that they thought they were doing something by “exposing” an ad for being… an ad.", "The money under your pillow came from inside the building!", "For real, if you needed this video to notice this is fake then holy shit, go back to grade school please.", "> t's irritating and provocative and turns some people against the video from the first second, and is 100% proven to improve Youtube success.\n\nAnd it works here as well... proof in the comments.", "> I'm sure there was one who looked more like her than a man in a dress\n\nBut why do we get to decide how close of a match it needs to be. I'm a record producer. And on a few records, the female artist wasn't around to sing a harmony on one line. So I sang it. I'm a dude. Nobody can hear the difference. Was I wrong for not hiring a woman or can I use the excuse that I didn't have time or money to hire someone and I did it 3 minutes? In what world do we get to decide how creative people make content?", "It's a fucking commercial who cares. You have no idea what lead them to using this man instead but I can only assume it's due to convenience and or cost.\n\nIf the creators of this video had a connect who said they will dress up and do it, why the fuck would you hold auditions to find someone else. The identity is hardly important.\n\nFor this particular video this is hardly worth claiming appropriation. A bit ridiculous in my opinion. It's a commercial just chill you don't need to cancel everyone all the time.", "Lax is just Swedish for salmon, spelled laks in Danish and Norwegian. Rökt lax/røkt laks literally translates to smoked salmon.", "> It's not that it was faked, it was that it was presented as though it were real footage.\n\nWhat? That is even dumber, imagine \"YO, Blair Witch isn't even real found footage\", YOU DON'T SAY.\n\nIt's an ad campaign, meant to spread and go viral. That's it. \n\nDid someone watch Hardcore Henry and make an exposed video about it? This ad is obviously fake from the huge drop and the wire work jumps.\n\nMan people nowadays... thin skinned, too lazy to think, but everyone strong opinioned with zero intent to revise their \"first impulsive notion\".", "Are you telling me my burger isn’t actually going to look like it did in TV when I go to McDonald’s?!", "I didn't downvote you. I partially misunderstood what you were saying the first time, but now that you explain, I understand.", "That's really weird, such a presumptive take without any real logic behind it. \n\n'It's made for profit, therefore it must be bad' is a really, really bad take. You can hate the system without hating the content (especially since you have no idea what the content is).\n\nSame goes for the guy complaining about the red circle; what a stupid rule. Yes, youtube algorithms are annoying. No, filtering out everyone who uses it to gain popularity will not leave you with only good content, or only valuable videos. It'll leave you with people either ignorant of, or principly opposed to, youtube algorithms. That's completely irrelevant of the actual content. It's like saying 'I only listen to music that doesn't have a song title that's also the album title', it's completely irrelevant to what you're actually trying to do.", "Feel like this is the equivalent of breaking down movie scenes on how it's not actually real life", "Dude, fisheye skate videos from the mid-90’s were the fuckin shit. Those old toy machine VHS tapes and shit. We used to watch them and it motivates the fuck outa us. Also had some badass music but back then you had to memorize the lyrics then hit up every record store to try and find them.. it was fun. I still think about those old tapes anytime I see a fisheye shot regardless of what it’s for.", "Do you know what insurances are? Do you know how much they cost for a production company who would ask their actors to just from roofs? It was probably a lot cheaper to do it this way. It's an ad, not a documentary.", "Technically they can make it look like that in very specific conditions and that's all that matters legally!", "This is true! But in North America (at least my neck of the woods) it's generally called lox, so I just went in with some assumptions of where they were from and what they may have heard before. I used to call it \"laks\" (that's what I knew it as growing up) but really over-pronounced it to annoy my Jewish fiancee whose family calls it lox.\n\nNow I want some...", "How was she endangered ?", "Some people in the comments: \"The video is bad because it's misleading. They tried to portray this video as real.\"\n\nThe actual host of the video: \"Look at this dive-roll, there's no way it's real! There's no chance. Hahahahah!\"\n\nSo you guys are contradicting yourselves. If the video is bad because they are portraying it as \"real\" than you can't complain about how obviously fake it is.\n\nIn reality, the fact that it is so obviously fake proves they weren't being misleading. In order to be misleading... people have to be mislead. But in reality no one thought this was supposed to be real... even little children know commercials aren't real for christ sake. Hard to imagine adults can't make the same conclusion.\n\nIf you get angry watching this commercial than I submit you have serious mental issues that need addressing.", "People are acting like this was a documentary... it's a fucking ad, dumb fucks lmao. How much would it cost to insure that kind of stunts vs. \"faking\" it?", "The fact it's a commercial makes it a bigger issue in terms of taking work away from the female athletes. It's actual paid work.", "She didn't even stumble though. She pranced across a roof with plenty of space on either side.", "I am literally the person in this video, I deploy parkour athletes into productions for a living. They already got the required permissions for the other POV parkour content in the video. There is no reason to use a gopro on some string.", "Are ads supposed to show real content? I didn't know that LOL\n\n\"EXPOSING FAKE BUDWEISER - FROGS DON'T TALK FOR REAL!\"", "Imagine not understanding that ads aren't documentaries. \n\nImagine not understanding that it's a lot cheaper to do CGI than insuring/completing stunts like these. \n\nDumb reddiors thinking they're smarter than other redditors. What else is new buddy?", "Did you know that car commercials don't use real cars anymore? They haven't for years. It's [mostly] CGI now because it's cheaper, faster, and safer.\n\nDid you know that almost everything on a commercial set is fake? E.g., those hamburgers in a McDonalds ad? Sorry, those aren't hamburgers. They are made of plastic, resin, and paint. The \"employee's\" happily making food with a smile on their face? Sorry, those are actors.\n\nDid you know that Marvel movies use post-production for almost all their stunts? Almost nothing you see is real.\n\nI'm guess I'm confused why some of you think commercials are real, even though you accept that movies, magic and the Easter bunny are not. Why would a medium used to advertise a product need to be real? Makes no sense.\n\nThe claim that production companies don't know what they are doing, but you (who has no experience making commercials) are somehow correct is absurd. Since when does it make sense to listen to people who literally have no idea what they're talking about? Some of you are really, truly full of yourselves.", "Are you telling me ads are FAKE!!??!", "Sure, but checking the producers it's... like just a group of friends or perhaps study mates? Probably far out of their budget to \"just hire one of the handful female parkour athletes\" \n\nEspecially considering that it takes quite a while to learn rooftops in a different city.", "Let me guess, before today you thought ads were all real?! \n\nHow was school for you?!", "A vast majority of the time when it's a 10:01 find its about 1-2 minutes of what you're looking for after 6 minutes of \"sMaSh ThAt LiKe\" and then a bunch of \"If you liked this! Check out my other garbage!\"\n\nI watch long videos on YouTube all the time, I just try not to waste 10 mins deciding if I've just slipped into some click bait.\n\nAlso why are you so annoyed with what other people use to identify what that creator is likely up to?", "Exactly... I really don't get what's to be exposed. It's an ad, not a documentary lmao.", "Who the fuck cares who cares about who cares?", "The actress they hired almost stumbled on the roof to unknown end, so evidently that calculcation almost didn't pay off ...", "They fake the shots...to get hits... to get money. He exposes the fake shots...to get hits...to make money. I see a pattern.", "Could you afford the insurance to have someone else do it for a production? Or is it just cheaper and not at all a big deal since it's not a documentary, just a stupid ad.", "Nah, again that’s not the point. If you cut out the last 5 seconds of the video with the ad, it’s just a staged viral video of a girl doing parkour. The point is that the actual tricks are faked but they are meant to look real. If it was filmed like a movie or something that would be different, but it was filmed with a go pro", "Thank you for the explanation.", "What you aren’t getting is that these kinds of viral commercials get their cachet from their apparent authenticity. The rise of social media created a wave of interest in the millions of people around the world doing extraordinary things for the joy of it and the appreciation of others. Ads like this try to monetise that relationship between the public and self-motivated creators by faking the kind of happening that those creators produce.\n\nExample, when I search “first wingsuit landing” on YouTube, the first two results relate to the actual first wingsuit landing (a stuntman flying his wingsuit from a helicopter down to a runway of collapsible cardboard boxes). The third result is a bullshit fake video posted by a men’s grooming company for clout. And even the first video, which is a compilation, includes the fake grooming company video and simply says that “questions have been raised about it”.\n\nEvery one of these fake viral videos represents gross, money driven advertising industry troglodytes blighting beautiful human accomplishments with their disgusting attitude to life, meaning and truth.", "In the video, he points to a place where the girl catches her foot on a roof shingle and could have faceplanted. It was evident she had no business running around obstacles as a stuntperson.", "It's a fucking AD! NOT A DOCUMENTARY! Why would anyone care if it's real or not?! lmao", "It's just blatant sexism in this case. Not even to convolute this into anything beyond that. It's so dumb. If you want a woman, cast a woman who does parkour. If you can't find anyone with the talent you want, then expand the casting. It's dumb, that's all.", "Hahaha, dude imagine. But come on, how could have they faked that?", "On a roof top, without even considering ways she could tumble and fall to the side/off the roof.", "Can we talk for a moment about how BEAUTIFUL she is?\n\nI find the level of fakery quite good, given the likely resources behind it. But it's hard not to resent the manipulation.", "It's clearly fake to you because you know it to be fake. If you don't think about it, it might easily seem real.", "> it was that it was presented as though it were real footage.\n\nHow was it presented in a way that made you believe this?!", "This is nothing alongside all the extremely fake \"gymnastics\" videos we've been seeing lately, where gravity seems rather intermittent.", "But...\n:motions toward pile of pitchforks:\n\n\n\nEdit: [8 minute minumum](https://www.google.com/url?q=https://techpostplus.com/youtube-video-minimum-length-monetize/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwje_t3VgK30AhVHCc0KHQ5YAU4QFXoECAQQDA&usg=AOvVaw0VV97HUG5Wp9NmNYePZAvN)", "/r/UselessRedCircle", "What are you trying to say here? That because she didn't die it therefore must've been completely safe for her to bumble across the roofs of Paris?", "Right?!?! I just don't get it honestly. It's next level stupid. It's an ad. It was never presented any other way. It is OBVIOUSLY fake, they didn't try to hide it. It's not a documentary, it's an AD!", "There are people who thought this was real lol?", "I mean, the video in question already has one of frances best parkour athletes (simon) doing a number of real POV jumps, why do you need a gopro on some string?", "I don't know why I'm annoyed, I just am. This video was decent (not great, but not empty clickbait either), and your reason for not watching it means you missed out on it. \n\nThe video is posted to r/videos and has 2740 upvotes, that's a much better aspect to base your assumptions on.", "That saying saying she almost killed herself is silly.", "Why would you cut out the last 5 seconds of the AD? It's an AD. It's obviously an AD. It's not a documentary, is it? There is nothing missleading in this ad, unless you're a clueless idiot who thinks people can jump 4 floors on their neck and continue running. Dude, come on.", "But they did use go pro. Why do you care? Was the video supposed to be a documentary about parkour, or a simple low budget ad?", "Fake shit on the internet ? No way !", "> Did you know that car commercials don't use real cars anymore?\n\nDid you know that's totally bullshit? \"CGI\" <insert Captain Disillusion rant about the catchall term CGI here> is only used when needed. Practical photography is always used for beauty shots. \n\nThat's like saying \"Did you know they don't use real Hollywood actors anymore? They haven't for years because it's cheaper to use Deepfakes\"", "I don't know... Who cares? It's a low budget ad, not a documentary about parkour, is it?", "> The point of the video was to advertise product, not to showcase women doing parkour.\n\nAnd is that why 98% of the video shows a woman doing \"parkour\"? They only show the makeup box for like 2 seconds at the end.\n\nThey deliberately tried to fool their audience, they wanted \"wow such skill and so cute!\" reactions. Its not a crime, but it was just dumb and it obviously blew up in their faces with the like/dislike ratio.", "How do you know what the producers considered? Maybe there is a barrier behind them or something...or is the camera guy just standing on a sloped roof with his back to the drop?", ">[Imagine not understanding that ads aren't documentaries. ](https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/vt/image/1624/79/1624795103391.png)\n>[Imagine not understanding that it's a lot cheaper to do CGI than insuring/completing stunts like these. ](https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/vt/image/1624/79/1624795103391.png)\n>[Dumb reddiors thinking they're smarter than other redditors. What else is new buddy?](https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/vt/image/1624/79/1624795103391.png)", "Well when you're on a roof one wrong step can be enough", "How do you?", "Unless you can back that up with peer reviewed research, then you are simply asserting a fact that isn't a fact. You just made it up.\n\nI have three kids. Even the youngest knows that almost everything they see on the internet is either fake or misleading in some way. So I don't believe for an instant that adults are incapable of this reasoning.\n\nYour claim that adults take viral commercials literally is absolutely absurd and isn't corroborated in any way.\n\nI don't know a single person who would agree with you. Everyone knows that what they see on TV, and especially on the internet, is not literally true. WHY WOULD IT BE? TV, for example, is about money. TV producers don't care if their stories are real or not, their job is to create entertainment that generates money. Accurately reflecting reality doesn't matter to them. Again, WHY WOULD IT?\n\nHow can you not understand that commercials have a point to them? The point is to sell product. They don't care about accurately reflecting reality in their commercials anymore then we do. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMERCIALS. They aren't supposed to be real, they are suppose to introduce you to a product.\n\n>Example, when I search “first wingsuit landing” on YouTube\n\nYou are confusing Youtube videos with commercials. A youtube video can literally be about anything or nothing at all. A commercial, however, is a very expensive way to advertise a product.... selling the product is the only reason for making the commercial.\n\nI don't think you understand that the ENTIRE POINT of the commercial was to advertise a product. It has nothing to do with parkour or youtube.\n\nThink about it this way: what if this company made outrageous amounts of money because of the success of this commercial? ....Is it still bad? Are they still immoral or whatever you're claiming because the parkour isn't real? How can the commercial be bad if it successfully sells them additional product???? Again, isn't that THE WHOLE POINT of a commercial? I don't think they care about redditors complaining about their commercial f they are making money.... after all, that's the WHOLE POINT.\n\nIf commercials were supposed to be stories of non-fiction, then sure, you would be correct. I doubt you could find a single person on the street who would claim that commercials are or should be stories of non-fiction. There is a reason why: because nobody believes that.", "I'll never forget the hype of \"The Storm\" coming out. We had like a dozen sweaty kids in a bedroom watching it on a TV with a built in VCR. Then we tore through town like madmen.", "I could be wrong, did Nick Fury have any racial backstory that insisted he had to be white? If there wasn't, he could be Italian, Mexican, Chinese, or Irish and it still wouldn't matter. His character emphasis was on being a CIA agent with special tech. Nothing linked to race.", "Exactly. The people complaining probably don't have any idea of what it would actually take to coordinate this video being shot. Maybe in an ideal world with unlimited time and budget you could hold a talent show and find the world's most ideal candidate but in the real world no. They likely just went with what was easiest.", "I bet the production company's insurance provider doesn't think the real thing is better. \"You're going to let a girl drop out of a four story window? Sure, we'll cover that.\" There are many practical reasons to use stunts/CGI for something like this.", "The only thing we can say is she almost tripped. Anything more than that is speculation.", "IDK man I thought it was neat so I clicked his next video and it was 9:37. Very possible he is just shooting for \\~10 min because it's an easily consumable amount of time.", "The complaint is that they used a dressed-up male parkour artist to pass off as the girl, rather than start off with a female parkour artist.", "So than er on the side of caution and not on the side of what is dangerous. It's clear not calling this shit out can be dangerous to amateurs who think they can do it all and have no understanding of the technical skill.", "On a roof she had no business being on", "Unless one wrong step sent her bouncing 20+ ft away and airborne she would have remained on the roof. Those roofs look like people are on them all the time.", "I care bro! I made a 10 minute video on it! Parkour can be so cool and seeing it done in lame ways like this is lame!", "Yeah I definitely think it's a bad click-baity title. And maybe because I saw the description and knew it was commercial, it made me think it was mentioned earlier. But I went back and watched again and it is much farther into the video than I thought that he first actually mentions it being an ad. So I agree now, it does come off for most of the video like he's trying to make people who would skip the description think that this is someone presenting this as solely being a genuine parkour video.", ">And is that why 98% of the video shows a woman doing \"parkour\"?\n\n... that was to get your attention, which it obviously did. Why does a commercial about Warhead candy show a cartoon kid with his head exploding? Because it gets their attention. The commercial isn't about heads exploding, it's about fucking candy. DUH!\n\nThey made a commercial that got millions of views and you're claiming it wasn't successful? Moreover, Youtube doesn't show dislikes, so you're just lying here.\n\nYou're just making stuff up to support your opinion. Why you would do that is beyond my comprehension.\n\nUsing you're own rationale, that would mean a McDonalds commercial that doesn't use real food is \"deliberately try[ing] to fool their audience\". You can't be serious! They aren't trying to fool anyone... it's a fucking commercial bro. Everyone watching knows those burgers aren't real. It's a commercial to introduce a product to me, why the fuck would it need to be a real McDonalds hamburger?!?!\n\nYou might as well claim Marvel is misleading their audience with CGI. That is absurd.... EVERYONE knows the stunts aren't real. EVERYONE knows the dragon in Shang-Chi ISN'T A REAL DRAGON.\n\nSeriously, do you believe in Santa Clause too?", "There is no side of caution and danger. The situation has already occurred, and we are just talking about it after the fact. Whether I say her trip was unsafe or safe has no bearing on whether it was unsafe or safe.", "Honestly, replying straight to your comment and I couldn't even tell you what the video was about.\n\nI'm pretty sure in the grand scheme of things my life is going to be just fine. I didn't miss out on anything.", "I'm really not going down the rabbit hole of Reddit 'comparisons' because what you've just described is not the same thing for some pretty obvious reasons, and this sort of Redditism of 'its like ...' just goes no where and forces people to argue scenarios they never defended in the first place.", "Very true, this is all completely inconsequential. I'm only responding to it in a reddit comment, which is also completely inconsequential, so that seems proportionate.", "Seriously. People on here act line someone with different opinions or reasoning will be the cause of their children starving to death. I assume they just have boring lives.", "Yeah they prefer Gorillaz", "Yeah I Mean these aren't binary things, there are nuances, and as I said I ended up watching most of it. But honestly that gopro \"experiment\" was unnecessary, and I would bet a dollar he deliberately added that lol.", "I didn't mean to suggest this is important like 'they' do, I'm just fine with wasting some time on explaining some minor thought I had.", "Dude same! A fuckin 13” Deawo (can’t spell it) with the built in vcr. All I had were skate tapes, revenge of the nerds, and that Korn doc Who then Now Bitch? \n\nI miss being a kid sometimes", "inb4: you wouldn't admit you were wrong if God himself said you were.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=in-ijTLgQtg\n\nhttps://imgur.com/gallery/oFKY65B#:~:text=Album%20on%20Imgur-,Fun%20fact%3A%20Almost%20all%20car%20commercials%20are%20done%20with,instead%20of%20the%20actual%20car.&text=Car%20commercials%20are%20usually%20filmed,car%20is%20added%20on%20top.\n\nhttps://newatlas.com/blackbird-cg-vr-cgi-vfx-car-rig/44022/\n\nhttps://www.businessinsider.com/cinematographer-reveals-one-thing-you-dont-know-about-car-commercials-2019-5\n\nhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3659203/What-prefect-cars-ads-REALLY-look-like-CGI-stand-used-automotive-videos-revealed.html\n\nhttps://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/gadgets/240616/did-you-know-car-commercials-are-shot-without-cars.html\n\nThere are literally thousands of other links corroborating this. You have no excuse for your ignorance. It's more expensive just for the plane tickets to hire people to film on location than to just use computers for everything. That's why you aren't just wrong, you are laughably wrong.\n\nLet me guess, all these people / articles are wrong, but you are right? No fucking surprise there.\n\nUnless you work in the industry (like I do), you are simply fabricating misinformation for reasons I can't even begin to fathom.\n\nMoreover, you are completely ignoring the point of my argument. I wonder why?! My argument is EXACTLY AS VALID even if they use much less CGI. That you don't realize this makes me think your comment is meant to insult me rather than actually discuss the issue.\n\nSo, not only are you wrong about these car commercials, but your wrong about the actual point I was making.\n\nLet me try it this way: let's assume only 10% of cars in commercials are CGI. Now, explain to me how that contradicts my argument? Oh, it doesn't? Well wtf are you talking about then!?!?!\n\nSome of you are so desperate to spite random strangers online... it's fucking insane. You're willing to lie and fabricate misinformation just to hate on others. Fuck that nonsense and shame on you! Lying and spiting other people doesn't make you a good person.... it literally makes you a piece of shit.", "Reddit creams its collective jeans for anyone \"exposing\" something. No matter how minor and insignificant it is. Everyone wants to be that person that exposes the next big scandal.", "Well... why not hire a female parkourer and only pay 1 person instead of paying a model and a professional parkourer separately?", "This is more like instead of hiring a stunt guy to do the stunts, they hire the intern to just run in place and use editing to make it seem like a stunt happened instead of actually hiring someone to do the stunt.", "Salmon + bread = salmon bread.", "Probably because female parkour people don't look like that model and finding a guy to do it was a lot easier.", "Maybe its regional or because I am viewing it on desktop, but I clearly see:\n\n1.2K likes and 12K dislikes\n\nI also wouldn't call 130k views a \"successful campaign\", considering all the negative reception it got.\n\nYou argue like a child and its not worth it, so ill stop here.", "I agree with you", "Sure, I guess that's fair. Maybe I just don't get as pressed about clickbait, it's just how you play the game", "I felt like the insights about the shoulder mismatch on the roll and uncanny fall movement were fine. More parkour editing knowledge than editing editing", "Really?! So you would expect someone to fall 4 floors for real?! That's weird, I'm pretty sure that's not feasible without serious injuries. \n\nYou do understand this is an ad, right? Like, the woman in the video \"REALLY\" wanted her package, she jumped 4 floors! Your points would make sens if it was meant to be a documentary. It's not.", "I’m talking about amateur parkour people trying stuff like this. Not people filming.", "Congrats on missing the most so thoroughly", "You just don’t get it. That’s fine, enjoy your life.", "That's what it is! You hadn't thought about that! The ad has a message to pass, \"she really wanted her package\". You missed the whole point of the ad, and you made a clickbait video about it.\n\nCongrats! You could have simply made a video on the mistakes they made in editing. There is nothing to \"expose\" in this ad. It is obviously fake... like, super obvious.\n\nEDIT: For what it's worth, I subscribed to your channel anyway. You have good content otherwise.", "Have you seen any action movie ever?", "You don’t need to bounce 20 feet in order to roll off / slide off of an angled rooftop.", "This video was somewhat interesting and also a complete waste of my time.", "To be fair, I don’t think people sit there and analyze videos to see if there is anything fake. That seems like something an insane person would do (unless they make videos themselves, work in the industry, etc.)", "Wow, you are working really hard to find a reason to be offended here lmao", "cheers man!", "So... MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THE POOR QUALITY OF THE COMMERCIAL IF IT THRIGERRED YOU THAT MUCH. There is NOTHING to EXPOSE in this commercial.", "I suppose, I do have an editing background.", "There are real people doing parkour in the vid. If there was ever a moment to consider specifically casting a girl this would be it. It's just the 'right' thing to do, in my opinion.\n\nIt's not like they should be cancelled or ridiculed for that decision, but it's worth pointing out.", "There actually is a purpose built product for throwing a gopro.\n\nhttps://shop.aervideo.com/collections/throw-your-gopro", "Lmao", ">Did you know that almost everything on a commercial set is fake? E.g., those hamburgers in a McDonalds ad? Sorry, those aren't hamburgers. They are made of plastic, resin, and paint.\n\nNot true. That's actually illegal. The stuff on top of or around it (condiments, garnish, sauce, side dishes, etc) can all be fake, but the product you are advertising needs to be the real thing", "Makes a hugely misleading statement that cars make no appearance in all car commercials and then Freaks the fuck out when called on it. Also make the call to authority argument of “I work in the industry” while offering no proof. Definitely fits the unreliable narrator mold.", "I guarantee the people downvoting you didn't watch the video.", "regardless of the videos subject; it's worth mentioning that likely no one wants to listen to someone they've never heard of before scream into a mic about anything. Especially when their face takes up 70% of the shot.", "News Alert! This just in: turns out Santa Clause, Marvel movies, and TV commercials aren't meant to be taken literally! Who would have thought! They actually use actors, sets, and scripts! This might shock some of you... but... that Warhead commercial where the kids head explodes because the candy is so sour..... well, sorry to tell you, but the kids head didn't really explode! Turns out it was a cartoon meant to get kids attention in order to sell them candy! Who would have thought a kids commercial was about selling candy and not showcasing exploding heads?!\n\nAnyone claiming there is such a thing as \"fake\" commercials clearly don't know what a commercial is. No one believes movies are real and no one believes commercials are real, no matter if you downvote me out of spite and anger, it won't alter reality.\n\nThere aren't fake movies and real movies. They are just movies. Likewise there aren't fake or real commercials. The point of a commercial is to sell a product. The point of a movie is to tell a story. Nothing about those facts change because something in the commercial or movie isn't \"real\".\n\nAssuming commercials are real is like an adult assuming the MCU is real, i.e., it's silly and makes no sense.", "Too many adds to watch a 10 minute video", "fake parkour channels now cant downvote this video b/c yt.", "A commercial cooked with untruths, now I've seen everything. heavy sarcasm voice", "Are there really people who watch commercials on TV and think that what they are seeing is real or meant to be taken literally?\n\nNo, seriously though, how is that possible?!\n\nI've asked everyone I've seen today about this and their responses are \"Uhh, you're kidding right? Who the fuck thinks commercials are real? You must be joking.\"\n\nSo yeah, I honestly don't get some of the comments here. Saying that people should take commercials literally is like saying adults should be surprised when they find out Santa isn't real. Sorry, no, no they shouldn't. Santa obviously isn't real, nor are commercials.\n\nIs there even such a thing as a commercial that doesn't use actors, scripts, props, and post editing? I don't think you people realize that your ideal commercial doesn't even exist. All commercials have editing, and according to SOME of you, that means the commercial is \"fake\" and 'trying to trick you\".\n\nIf you're stupid enough to take a commercial literally then you deserve any consequences from that.\n\nEven in our Justice System your argument doesn't work. You can sue for false advertising, but you can't sue because the commercial doesn't accurately reflect reality or physics. You can't sue because the parkour in a commercial isn't real. There is a good reason for this.\n\nI can't tell if these are just trolls or not. I seriously can't fathom that so many of you believe commercials are real and that they should be real. That. Is. Fucking. Insane.\n\nObviously if making commercials \"real\" sold more product than they would do that. But they don't. QED.", "This managed to outrage someone enough to make a video about it.", "it's for an ad... chill..🙄", "They still could have used a female double.", "As do I lol but faking parkour videos for YouTube is something I had never even considered before this video", "Who doesn’t, that guy is a genius", "Is this video really claiming that the distinction between fiction and non-fiction media is impossible, or even difficult, to surmise?\n\nMy 6 year old can easily describe to me which types of media are fiction and which are non-fiction, e.g., she knows that commercials advertise fiction to sell stuff and that documentaries are non-fiction stories about the real world. She knows that the stories I read her at night are for fun, they aren't meant to help us learn about the world.\n\nSo I have a hard time believing the comments here that claim that commercials are obviously meant to be taken literally and that what we see in commercials should be real. If my 6 year old can distinguish these things than there is no excuse for an adult to believe that commercials are real. Might as well believe in the Easter Bunny and the MCU!", "Who ducking cares?", "Is this a cultural thing? In America, there is no such thing as \"fake\" or \"real\" commercials. Commercials are commercials. They can be good or bad, but not real or fake. The only criteria to be a commercial is trying to advertise a product. Nothing else matters.\n\nAlmost all commercials here in America are heavily edited. In fact, they are outrageous! I just watched an old spice commercial that was completely insane... I don't understand how anyone could watch that and assume what they are seeing is real. Does that happen in other countries or what??? I seriously don't understand why so many comments are making this claim. I don't even know children who believe commercials are real... so it's hard to understand why some of you adults think they are. I feel like I'm in bizzaro world.\n\nLiterally ask ANYONE: \"Are commercials supposed to reflect reality or advertise a product?\" Nobody is going to say \"reflect reality\"... literally nobody. Yet here there are people making this outrageous claim. I simply don't get it.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2SlCja3zo", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2SlCja3zo\n\nI think this commercial literally proves this video wrong all by itself. It definitely proves wrong all those claiming that commercials are supposed to be taken literally and that everything in a commercial should be real.\n\nIf you really believe that, please, PLEASE explain how this old spice commercial makes sense and why it's so popular! Please!\n\nif commercials are supposed to be real and \"fake\" commercials don't generate any money... then why are these old spice commercials so popular? Why did these commercials literally save Old Spice and create huge profits for them? If this is a \"fake\" commercial and doesn't work well to advertise THAN WHY IS IT SO SUCCESSFUL?\n\n\"The Campaign that saved Old Spice\":\nhttps://bettermarketing.pub/the-campaign-that-saved-old-spice-d925bed9aee8?gi=dcdc0bb07084\n\nOld spice was literally saved by heavily edited fictional commercials... the very thing this video claims is immoral and wrong.", "Storm flip. Never forget.", "You missed the point. It really PAINS him that a man is pretending to be a woman to do the stunt work. Can't you feel that pain?", "Next they'll be telling us Russian meerkats don't really own comparison websites.", "Definitely a little click-baity. Once it was revealed to be a commercial I didn’t care that they had faked the stunts. That’s a reasonable thing to do. My only questions are: \n\nWas the ad agency so obsessed with this model’s look that they didn’t want to cast an actual parkour athlete?\n\nAnd\n\nFor continuity’s sake, why didn’t they hire a female stunt double for the parkour shots?", "Did he say that he created all the content on his YouTube channel? So did he make the videos he's debunking?", "Silke zigzag is the bomb girl parkour athlete", "Could have been a 2min video of supercuts of the obvious fake shit.", "Sure, but would you feel like you were risking your life if you were asked to run across the roof like she did? I wouldn't. The dude making the video wouldn't either he just said it because acting outraged over a commercial that uses camera tricks gets views I guess. It's recreational outrage.", "It’s a magnifying glass though, not just a circle.", "I mean you’re not wrong but what he said wasn’t inaccurate either. It’s dangerous as fuck and it looked like she almost tripped lol", "What you guys consider dangerous seems kinda silly to me. I take a bigger risk putting up Christmas lights every year.", "Watch out, we’ve got a badass over here.", "I really don't think \"an ad\" and \"fake\" are the same thing... Like, it's not like this is someone on Youtube claiming to be a parkour athlete and posting things that are edited. It's an ad. It's the same as a movie -- it's intended to be consumed as fictional.\n\nLike, if it were fictionally showing the thing they're advertising, I'd be with you -- IE, they show a cleaning product and then falsely show how clean you can get something with it. But the parkour is just the set up for the idea of running to get this product, which is unrelated to the parkour itself.\n\nNot to mention...couldn't you just point out she's not wearing a GoPro?* Like, of course it's an effects shot. How in hell would she be recording POV footage without a camera on? With her bionic eyes?\n\nLike, I feel like this is a bit like taking a Geico ad and trying to show me how there isn't really a talking gecko, that it's all special effects. There was never a claim to authenticity to begin with. Calling it \"fake\" feels...weird.", "I’m so glad I read the comments before watching the entire video. He might as well be “exposing” stunts for a movie. “Next I’m going to show how that wasn’t really Batman in all those films.”", "She's an actress and it's supposed to be fake and fun. What's idiotic is someone debunking what is clearly a fake stunt. He should debunk the marvel movies next.", "this guy is retarded", "Because it means that the female parkour artitsts out there are getting less money, for work they could do.", "I can't think of any other sport where an ad using their athletes would dress up a guy as a girl just to get footage, though.", "Or you guys are just hyperbolic about risks which is a common reddit cliche. See: any video of someone skateboarding or riding a bike without a helmet.", "I literally skateboarded for 10 years, could have probably went pro if I never quit and I hardly wore a helmet. But I definitely should have because it’s dangerous as fuck. A guy we used to skate with all the time died when he landed on his back / head trying to grind a handrail without a helmet.", "Ik I shoulda just linked /r/yourjokebutworse", "What i dislike in these fake parkours is that some gullible kids will see that and kill themselves trying to emulate them.", "Except that you're wrong. From 2020/21:\n\nToyota Highlander\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaT1HIn9MXA\n\nHyundai Tucson \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWGtT73d2EQ\n\nFrom a few years ago:\n\nMercedes, the car is the only thing not CGI in this ad\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjfVp19Tu1M\n\nHonda Civic\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptukcs-zZIg\n\nYour original statement was\n\n>Did you know that car commercials don't use real cars anymore? They haven't for years.\n\nDid you even read your own links?\n\n>https://www.businessinsider.com/cinematographer-reveals-one-thing-you-dont-know-about-car-commercials-2019-5\n\n>some car commercials use the Blackbird\n\nWhich ones?\n\n>used in commercials for the Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain\n\nSomehow you went from this to \"car commercials don't use real cars anymore\"\n\n>Unless you work in the industry (like I do)\n\nOh I doubt that you do.\n\n>Let me try it this way: let's assume only 10% of cars in commercials are CGI. Now, explain to me how that contradicts my argument? Oh, it doesn't? Well wtf are you talking about then!?!?!\n\nYou argue like a teenager, so I've probably been bamboozled into wasting my time with you. You made a gigantic overgeneralization, then when people pointed it out as wrong, you threw a tantrum and declared it doesn't matter.", ">She's an actress and it's supposed to be fake and fun\n\nWe're talking about the real parkour parts, which is actually a pretty significant portion of the ad.\n\nAnything relevant that you would like to add?", "I'm saddened by the fact that we have produced and entire generation of morons. It's not your fault, it's our fault.", "literally felt like i watched the whole video by just watching the first 10 seconds. why do videos do this?", "Proved my point, you couldn't resist making sure I know that not wearing a helmet = death.", "Nah, I’m just giving you an example of why I think that it’s dumb I didn’t wear a helmet all of those years", "First pranks being fake, now parkour. Smh.", "That doesn't bother me too much, I'd expect a compilation video to include multiple takes filmed for different reasons, each stunt filmed separately, some with GoPro, others without but filmed from a wider angle. I don't think anyone watches a video like this and expects it to truly be one uncut sequence, especially with the beehive and kitchen scenes, it's clear that those scenes are set up and scripted. \nThat said, I don't think it's too much to ask to show some real stunts, and for such a short video, pick an actress who is able to pull them off herself.", "The \"exposed\" is unnecessary, stupid and petty.", "Jesus. The champion of women’s parkour is right here ladies and gentlemen. All those poor professional female parkour athletes aren’t getting enough parkour jobs :,( crummy male parkour athletes stealing their livelihoods out from under them like that. Gosh I’m just so mad that the female parkour community is so oppressed by things like this. A MAN? AS A STUNT DOUBLE FOR A WOMAN????????? NOT IN MY AMERICA REEEEEEEEEEE", "> is 100% proven to improve Youtube success.\n\nYupp, and it is the most fucking annoying thing.\n\nI'm subbed to Pindex on youtube, since they have some interesting videos, but they are fucking brutal on their attempts to manipulate youtube viewership.\n\nThey will change the thumbnail and title of videos 5-10 times on new uploads to get people to watch the content, getting more or less clickbaity for each change.", "No sane person has ever thought 'I'm going to parkour as a hobby '", "Bruv we already know", "We don’t need a 10 minute video explaining it’s fake, we know!", "Wdym, i cant roll dive from a 4 story building?", "That and flashy colors in the background in order to capture the attention of half retarded children whom their imbecile parents don't love so they just give them iPads to do the parenting for them.\n\nThe fucking YT algorithm that emphasizes that can go die in a ditch, along with the developers that created it.", "Judging by his/her username I think it is.", "Do you find it troubling people are actually upvoting an account called /u/HeretoStirItUp?", "I doubt there are laws about this.", "The ad went viral because people were amazed at the parkour in it. People think it's real.", "At least you can admit it! Good for you buddy, first step to recovery is recognizing you have a problem.", "The video went viral because people thought the parkour was real.", "If you are dumb enough to jump off a building, then so be it. Stop protecting stupid from themselves.", "Uhhhhh....that disclaimer is not about ensuring you are safe it is ONLY to ensure they do not get sued. Thats it.", "Why is it a problem to fake the shots? Why does this have to be exposed?", "I just watched all 10 minutes. Really good stuff.", "A girl doing parkour 😂 like anyone would believe that", "Oh god he referred to women athletes as female athletes which is totally completely normal in the UK but fuck me if Americans on reddit will get that ever", "Source?", "So after reading your comment I questioned that myself. Was I repeating a myth or what? So I looked it up.\n\nThe rules regarding such things are just that, rules. In this particular case, FTC rules. They are not regulations or laws as such. The FTC doesn't feel the need to enshrine them in law since companies by and large play nice.\n\nThe tricky part of these rules is that any food you sell in an ad has to be the actual food someone buys. You can dress it up as perfect as possible, but the food still has to be that exact food.\n\nHowever, any other food or related dressing in an ad that you don't sell can be fake as you like. Glue instead of milk for cereal is a classic. You're not selling the milk, so it doesn't run afoul of the FTC. \n\nAnother factor is that restaurants and other food-related companies are now generally more strict than they have to be legally for two reasons: they don't want a real FTC regulation or federal law to come around and upend their advertising, so they play it safer. It's also just good PR; people are sometimes smarter than they look (shocking I know) and want to see real food in our ads. \n\nSo as it concerns the burger from McDonalds, yes, it's made with the exact same food you would get there. No fake stuff. It's just dressed extremely perfectly (but we all know that here).", "The video is 8:36 if you cut out the recaps and sponsors. Thanks Sponsorblock!", "Even channels like Veritasium or Tom Scott do that kind of click-through-rate A/B testing on titles and thumbnails. They were smart enough to be early adopters, even.\n\nAs a user it's bit annoying to go \"Cool, a new video - oh wait, it's just a more sober/hysterical title for something I saw this morning\".", "I mean, in that case, I know it may sound a bit harsh.... but darwinism kinda comes into play.", "Were the girls able to do the parkour shots as available as whoever was casted for this? Did it cost the same? Would they have been easier to work with?", "Are you implying that the answer to all of these questions is \"no\"?", "No. I'm asking if you've taken these things into account before implying they had poor ethics.", "Well it doesn't make for great conversation to ask \"why didn't they hire a lady parkour-ist\" when clearly none of us were part of the production team.\n\nJust speculating, not accusing.", "You know what, I believe you.", "Your medal is on the way", "You VASTLY underestimate the ability for kids and adults who don't ever watch cgi media to tell the difference between this stuff.", "I'm not even talking about the CGI. I'm talking about stuff like \"her\" going into someones apartment and taking their food, and the owner being totally okay with that." ]	533	videos	Exposing FAKE Parkour Girl on Rooftops of Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO-dQCa2p9Q	/r/videos/comments/qzma8m/jason_alexander_on_george_costanza/	[ "This is from Curb your Enthusiasm. The joke here, which they're both in on is that the character of George Costanza was [based on Larry David](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SgIH4tTtRo).", "It’s a crime Jason never got an Emmy", "That's so meta", "George, the rapist from Pretty Woman and the father figure from Dunston Checks In...\n\nI'd be pretty conflicted too.", "BoJack horseman is the same idea of this", "Party Down also had this idea.", "Don't forget the serial killer he played on Criminal Minds. With that awful white grey/white wig, lol.", "Birdman", "I'd watch that show.", "Then Jason starts acting like George (which is acting like Larry) to impress Cheryl. That season is gold.", "Costanza's one of my favorite characters on TV. I always thought he was the best character out of the Seinfeld cast because he was so believable. Kramer was too weird to take seriously. Jerry and Elaine were kind of milquetoast. But Costanza was just plausible enough and just devious/petty enough (and funny) to make him the most brilliant character of the bunch.", "You just did", "And Episodes with Matt LeBlanc playing himself.", "I agree with everything but the Elaine bit. JLD always gave phenomenal performances and had some of the funniest lines of the series.", "George was funny. \nLarry David is unwatchably annoying.", "It's gold Larry! GOLD!", "Agree. I certainly think Jerry is Milquetoast and Kramer is tolerated beyond reason. But Elaine always had this sparkle about her, and Julia did a phenomenal job making her this weird combination of likable and unlikable at the same time. You want to hate her but you can't seem to.", "Yeah, his char was pretty great on that episode. Not as good as Robin Williams playing the crazy criminal on Law and Order, but if you're playing second fiddle to Robin Williams, you're a damn star.", "Do you happen to own a business? Mr. David is always in the market for a good spite store.", "It's funny because Matt Leblanc did this exact thing in his \"Episodes\" series xD", "Yeah I think Elaine is very believable. More so than a vast majority of sitcom characters like on say Friends. She has broken down just humanity to her, even if it’s played up for laughs. And she’s certainly selfish and takes things too far but that’s life", "I’m watching the whole show through for the first time on Netflix, having watched a ton of episodes growing up but never all of them. Jason is George on day one of the show. The pilot is super rough, but George is George immediately", "Would have been awesome if he told Alexander that he wanted to do the show, but not with him, because people wouldn't accept him as any other character than George.", "Also the therapist from Jacob's Ladder", "As in a full series.", "My brain was doing just fine not remembering that.", "Foreword", "Let's do this for real...\n\nCome on Reddit, let's crank out a screenplay that centers around Jason Alexander and the George monkey that lives on his back. Let's push him to reach his full range, and make us forget all about Seinfeld. \n\nWe can have cameos from other actors who suffered similarly, maybe Daniel Radcliffe as Swiss Army Man can show up to open a can of beans or something... Even cameos from Jason Alexander himself but playing other characters like his mean boss, his trendy uber driver, etc. \n\nIt can all end with no resolution, just for lols, or we can have him move to Mongolia or something because he's tired of being recognized.", "I like how the top comments for both this post and the video are explaining the joke.", "Yeah but Bojack never hated his old character, he loved it. Also I don't remember him being typecast so in fact it's nothing like it.", "If anyone wants to see Jason really talk about how he came to understand that George Costanza was based on Larry David, watch this excellent excerpt from Jason's interview with the Archive of American Television:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/4SgIH4tTtRo\n\nIn sum, Jason originally thought George was an exaggerated Woody Allen-type character, because he thought the stuff that he did and that happened to him was so far-fetched. And then Larry told him, what do you mean, this stuff happened to me last month.\n\nAnd the lightbulb went on.", "> Can't remember a word of it, but it really stuck with me.\n\nThis is fantastic", "I can forgive not giving him one for the shorter first season, but he should have won 8 Emmys.\n\nOutstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series\n\n1991- Johnathan Winters (probably an honorary win because he's a legend)\n\n1992 - Michael Jeter (Evening Shade? Come on!)\n\n1993 - Michael Richards (OK, well, correct show and certainly earned, Jason Alexander was nominated this year)\n\n1994 - Michael Richards (Again, Jason is nominated, come on Emmys, spread around the love)\n\n1995 - David Hyde Pierce (Not a big Fraiser fan personally. Jason is once again nominated)\n\n1996 - Rip Torn (OK, really good character on the Larry Sanders Show... but damnit! Jason nominated, doesn't win)\n\n1997 - Michael Richards (OK, this is just getting mean. Jason again nominated... shows up in his fancy suit... no award)\n\n1998 - David Hyde Pierce (Again. Jason is nominated. Maybe next year?)\n\n1999 - Oh... the show is off the air. Fuck!", "I actually saw Jason Alexander at the new Academy Museum of Motion Pictures about a month ago. I was on the roof terrace and as I turned to leave, he was right there, like 5 feet in front of me. We caught eyes. I instantly recognized him, even though he was wearing a mask. I definitely didn’t bug him though, just kept walking and took a photo from so far away the photo quality sucked haha. [Here it is](https://i.imgur.com/VgMmESS.jpg)", "I liked him as Death on The Twilight Zone.", "And Jerry Stiller and Estelle Harris were absolutely phenomenal as George’s parents. Their roles really drove home the George character. Brilliant all around.", "I was hoping for the curb meme at the end", "Yeah I mean Kramer was funny and all but George should have got at least 1 of those 3", "That was a fantastic watch. Cheers!", "Did you just link to the exact video that the comment you're replying to referenced?", "That's actually messed up.. awards are so meaningless and fake, they should acknowledge this obvious fact and spread around the love a bit, as you say. Instead they make it super obvious but remaining in denial about it.", "Emmys are meaningless. we know how amazing he was. that's all the matters", "The slow realization that you're not as charming as you think you are is brilliant here :D", "[To many birds in the competition.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNv95dsDdQ)", "Look at this redditor citing their notes! Going to be seeing bibliographies in the wild soon", "It's criminal, but also maybe the most George Costanza-esque thing that could've happened", "<cue funky bassline>", "The character he pitches is the exact character he's playing in this clip. Too much meta.", "Or the awkward break that he's already working on the show, but they've already cast someone else, a new guy with no history.\n\nThey are maestros of comedy, so I totally appreciate that 'I'm selling cars' isn't as punchy as it could be, it wraps the scene incredibly well and leaves them more room to play into the next scenes.", "was it “acting without acting”? https://youtu.be/RS49gJ2eKrY", "It’s Round-teen", "Agreed. Also, Kramer had kavorka.", "Imagine not liking Frasier.", "I don't know that I've watched a full episode. I've just seen some clips. Does it hold up anywhere nearly as well as Seinfeld does?", "He did.\n\nBut there's some nice added commentary in his comment at least.", "I get it, but award shows DO raise the profile of the winner and opens doors to all kinds of jobs. It's just meaningless to the rest of us.", "I thought it was obviously Bob Saget, but I can't remember.", "Frasier is probably my favorite show of all time, it still holds up well but whether or not you like it more or less or not at all is probably just an issue of different tastes. It's cast with mostly theater actors and almost every episode is a mini play, which at least makes it interesting from an art analysis perspective, imo. So many episodes of Frasier are classic farces, which I love. Also, John Mahoney is the GOAT, I love Niles but Martin should have won an Emmy too", "Frasier is great until Niles and Daphne finally get together, then it takes a huge element of comedic relief out of the series. Seinfeld has some story lines, but the continuity isn't really there as much, so each episode stands on its own a lot better.", "Another reason to use Apollo because it shows the url and a thumbnail and it’s very easy to see that there’s a link and what it links to.", "I'm seein' double ovah here - four Jason Alexander videos!", "It’s so boring", "Had to look up milquetoast and learned something new, thanks", "When our schemes go wrong not because of our enemies, but because of our own incontrovertible narcissitic incompetence...", "But the funniest line in the series hands down is “Jerry these are load bearing walls!”", "that could work. if the TV character was truly hated and the actor very nice. a show about a good guy actor, known for playing a very bad guy (think Tony Soprano/Hannibal Lecter rolled into one) could have some interesting and entertaing stories to tell.", "I have amazing news for you", "Hey Constanza! Hey jackass!", "I wouldn't attribute an actor saying their lines as a quote by the actor on that character. Since both Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm are written by Larry David, this is more accurate to say \"Larry David on George Costanza\".", "I never thought about the \"every episode is a play\" perspective, probably because I have limited training and knowledge in the area, but that does make sense.", "so bojack horseman?", "I think Frasier holds up better personally. The Ski Lodge, The Doctor is Out, Moon Dance are some of my favourites. For me, it does the same thing Parks and Rec does. It's not a cynical sitcom like Seinfeld or Always Sunny, it can be quite earnest and heartwarming sometimes in a good way. I like Seinfeld but sometimes I want to watch a show like Frasier or Parks and Rec.", "This is actually part of a [massive interview with Jason Alexander](https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/jason-alexander?clip=54165#interview-clips). The whole thing is like 3+ hours long and is more about his entire life and career, but there are some really good sections specifically on Seinfeld (scroll to the bottom of the page and choose \"Full Interview\" which has timestamped links to each of the sections).", "The lure of the animal.", "It's true of most multicam shows, including Seinfeld, because they're shot on a stage in front of an audience like a play. But Frasier is probably the most beholden to the theatrical tradition, both because of the creators' backgrounds and also because tonally, it fits with the show.", "Not sure I could say Michael Richards benefited from the extra exposure...", "Wrong show. You're thinking of Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson.", "Was it a book or more like a pamphlet?", "The show they're describing sounds a lot like Bojack Horseman", "I dunno what they are talking about. All I hear is duckman.", "I was about to be like, Did you reply to the wrong person?? Good one mate.", "George is not happy!", "Ooh! Let's do it with the guy who played king Jeffrey. You know that dude is having a hard time getting roles right about now.", "Aren't you the horse from Horsin' Around?", "I watched this on YouTube yesterday and now I’m seeing it here, wtf is going on.", "Agree. Binge watching seinfeld right now and damn he is good. He always is in character and you can see where the others struggle a bit.\n\nThe reason why people associate him with Costanza is probably also that he did the role so damn good. He basically became George. Other actors become their character but its very hard to do it as good as Jason.\n\nI would really love to seem get an Emmy. So many laughters he has given to the world. Sure he worked from a script but he delivered it. He seem so professional as well. I hope he get some cool roles soon. Would love to see that guy in some serious (drama) roles.", "This honestly sounds like something George would say and then him and Jerry would have an argument about it", "It's so meta, even this acronym", "I've known a few guys like Kramer.", "I may be misremembering but isn't he actually gonna spend some time as a car salesman to cover his lies?", "> I definitely didn’t bug him though\n\nThat is very nice of you. I wish more people thought like that. Its like some people can't understand that celebrities want to have a normal life and not be approached all the the time.", ">which they’re both in on \n\nYeah that’s usually how scripted television works. Did you think this was a reality show?", "Ok, it's time to get Larry David, Jason Alexander, and John Hamm together in a project. The 3 Larry Davids! It's gold, Jerry, gold!!", "They should have taken it further, I imagined this scene, obviously before I'd seen it as total crazy, and longer, whole episode", "He is car salesman and it's spectacular", "Also the joke makes fun of itself. Pitching a show of a character that hates how he's only known for role and can't get any other work. That's basically what this segment was.", "Frasier is awesome and well worth a watch, but I feel like it peters out pretty intensely somewhere in the latter half of the show. \n\nIt's a little more... I don't know, theatrical? Professional-ish? It's tough to explain. The jokes are a little bit more slow-burn and sometimes rely on you knowing a lot about the characters. There's a bunch of character dynamics that are important to keep up on. It's a little more continuity focused, so you can't just drop in to an episode randomly like you can with some other sitcoms. \n\nBut damn - when Frasier hits the ball, it's a grand slam. Many of the verbal slapfights between Niles and Frasier are top-tier. Some of the jokes that they line up are gold.", "If you mean King Joffrey, he retired and teaches now. Isnt all that uncommon with younger actors.\n\nEDIT: Apparently he unretired and is back to work acting.", " Curb is partially scripted. They have an outline and do a bunch of improvised takes for a situation or conversation then splice all the funniest bits together.\n\nKind of like reality TV, actually.", "Thanks! that link is great! it has a section for Duckman. I'll watch that for sure.", "So, there's a series that isn't Seinfeld, where Jason Alexander is the lead star and the show is about him having a difficult time finding work because everyone wants to see him as a former character?", "It was to cover his boasting that selling cars is easy and he could sell like 10 cars a day.", "That’s basically what curb your enthusiasm is. But it’s Larry David, the co creator of Seinfeld. The character George is based off Larry David", "Right. I've seen CYE. I was specifically talking about the show that were talking about in this episode when I made my original commen. Ie, one where Jason Alexander is the lead role. I don't know how people didn't pick up on that.", "There's a really great compilation of interviews with the cast and Charlie rose on youtube. Jason Alexander seems like the complete opposite of George in real life lol. Very eloquent and intelligent and introspective.", "You literally don’t have George without Larry.", "I'm offering a bit of context.\n\nIn this scene from a sitcom (Curb your Enthusiasm) Jason Alexander, the actor, is playing a fictionalized version of himself, also named \"Jason Alexander\" commenting on playing \"George Costanza\", who's a fictionalized version of Larry David from \"Seinfeld\" a show Larry wrote.\n\nLarry David is likewise playing a fictionalized Version of himself.\n\nSo if you clicked OP's link thinking you'd find Insight from Jason Alexander (the actor) on George Costanza (a character he played) you wouldn't find it.\n\nInstead you're greeted with a scene of scripted television and , without prior knowledge, you might be lost - and then if you read the description seeking clarity you'd still be left to answer the questions \"Who's Larry\", \"what's his relation to Jason Alexander\" \"What's his relation to George Costanza\" and \"what's the joke here?\".\n\nAnd someone could spend 4-5 minutes on that themselves looking things up and reading through comments on the video - or, before/after watching the video they could read a single explanatory sentence I wrote both contextualizing things and linking to an interview in which Jason Alexander actually does discuss the character of George Costanza; which is probably why it's so upvoted.", "Autocorrect got me but yeah, and I heard that I was just kidding around. That said he actually had pretty good acting skills so I would be happy for him to do more.", "It really does and I have found the upscale modern taste of Frasier makes most of the sets seem modern day, it does not date itself much. It's a show where you really can start watching from episode 1. I would say the first season hits better than Seinfeld. Together they are my two favorite shows", "You just explained what a tv show is like you’re an alien or a lizard person. Like people have never seen a tv show before and wouldn’t be able to grasp the concept.", "I mean, I'm trying to explain to you, point by point, why people would value a concise to understand post giving context an in-joke who's full humor you can only really grasp if you know the the background to it. I laid it out plainly and painfully there for you there because you couldn't grasp that simple fact but it seems it didn't take.", "Yet here you are, the one that is misunderstanding comments", "It really does have have a [unique writing process](https://outline.com/8kM6eT).\n\n7 Page outline; a paragraph or two for each scene; Larry rewriting on the fly; and each scene improvised - with them shooting in [three cameras](https://www.panasonicvisualsystems.com/industries/cinema/shotonvaricamcurbyourenthusiasm) at almost any given moment so they can re-frame the scene as it happened without multiple takes. It makes the show something of a hybrid between a single camera sitcom and multicam improvised TV.", "What fact couldn’t I grasp? It’s a scripted tv show. They read the script. There isn’t anything to “be in on.” I think you’re the one who doesn’t know what that means. This is an iamverysmart moment where you think you have some deep understanding of the clip that nobody knows.", "As far as I'm concerned, Seinfeld is the perfect sitcom. It never gets old to me. There aren't too many other sitcoms I've ever really enjoyed, but I just watched Frasier for the first time this last year, and I absolutely loved it.", "Oddly, my favorite Jason Alexander role was in Monk. He played the character very well.", "I'm talking about the audience being in on the joke and having the context to eplain it. The people clicking that link - not the actors in the scene.\n\nAnd if you really want to be pendantic - as I explained [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzma8m/jason_alexander_on_george_costanza/hlotszb/) and as has been commented on by others Curb Your Enthusiasm doesn't really have a written script the actors are reading. the dialog, with the exception of a few key lines, is improvised.", "I think I'll check it out, lol.", "Yeah, I'm thinking with all the Fraiser love I see here I'll start on episode 1.", "Strong endorsement, I'll check it out.", "I’m sellin cars", ">This is from Curb your Enthusiasm. The joke here, which they're both in on is that the character of George Costanza was based on Larry David. \n\nThat’s exactly what you said. You’re not talking about the audience being in on it. You’re obviously taking about the two actors. \n\nAnd are you trying to say this is a completely off the cuff scene? That they didn’t know they were going to be joking about Larry being George? The scene is scripted. The dialogue is loosely written and somewhat improvised. There is nothing for them to be “in on.” \n\nYou are 100% the person who doesn’t get it here and you’re lying, changing what you said, and making shit up to cover up for you insulting me thinking I don’t get it when you’re the moron here.", "I have watched and enjoyed all of Parks and Rec. With all this love I think I'll give it a shot!\n\nTossed salad and scrambled eggs.", "It takes a bit of time to get going, but once it's going, it's cruising. Enjoy!", "I actually remember that, it's hilarious and that's when George really became George.", "so Larry pitched Bojack Horseman", "i appreciate you.", "He was also in an old summer-camp-slasher from the 80's called The Burning. \n\nHe's number 96 in [this clip.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lekxSn2RpnM)", "Same energy as that student in your lecture who raises their hand and says exactly what you just said but in their own words.\n\nEdit: though to be fair, he gives some meaningful context", "As you clearly didn't read the explanation I linked and continue to equivocate the conversation is done.\n\nThe actors, who are in on the joke by default, are playing fictionalized versions of themselves in a sitcom where each scene basically has a prompting paragraph and the flow of the scene and dialog are entirely improvised on set. As in, unlike what the title might suggest \"Jason Alexander\" is a fictionalized character.\n\nFor the viewer to also be in on joke they need to know 3 things that aren't immediately known if they just watch the clip. That (1- Jason Alexander and Larry David are real people playing fictionalized versions of themselves in an episode of The Larry David Show, written by Larry David), (2 - Jason Alexander played George Costanza, a character in Seinfeld), (3 - Larry David also wrote Seinfeld and based George on himself). Without those things all you have is comic argument.\n\nBut, if you know those things then you the viewer are in on the joke and the scene has two additional layers of humor: at the first they'll know from the outset that \"Jason\" is putting down \"George\" even though he (and we, if we're in the know) knows he's also denigrating \"Larry\" by doing so - what initially seems to be pleasantries are secretly verbal irony. And, beyond that here's a layer of nebbishy self-effacing humor because this scene of \"Larry\" being roasted was plotted out by Larry himself.", "Omg I forgot about that", "oh thats so good", "I actually ran into him one time at a wakeboard park in South florida interestingly enough. He was there with his family, can't remember if it was kids or neices/nephews or what it was and everyone was calling him George and being super obnoxious. He ended up throwing his back out while water skiing and sat down next to me and we talked for a few minutes. Was a super nice dude, it took everything I had in me to not make a shrinkage joke lol.\n\nThis was probably 10+ years ago and the one thing I distinctly remember about him was as I was leaving a while later I asked if was feeling better and he said he had enough motrin in him to kill a small pony but could still barely move.", "Loved that quacked ass show", "Wtf I'm literally watching the scene as this popped up on Reddit...", "Algorithm coincidence. It happens more often than you would think. I follow about 10 different channels that my friend does, and we end up watching very similar videos because of it.\n\nNow think about visiting reddit videos and watching things. That's affecting your algorithm too. At some point, some other r/video watcher will see something you found entertaining and end up putting it on here.\n\nHow do I know this? Youtube has also been sharing Seinfield / Jason Alexander stuff on youtube with me recently, so I've seen many Jason / Larry related clips recently.", "That's awesome news to hear. I really look forward to hating him to the highest possible point of passion in some new fantasy series.", "Jason Alexander is just a dude playin' a dude playin' a dude.", "Kramer was funnier for the audience at the time. But the audience we are now know that George was the whole comedy glue", "He should have won an Emmy just for his [marine biologist monologue.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8KUgUqprw)", "Did Larry David just come up with the idea for Bojack Horseman?", "...As in a student who is\n\nA) the assy knowitall who, in a surprise event, is right for once, but is nevertheless attempting to contradict you without realizing everything you've both said agrees\n\nB) a student who is making a clarifying statement/question in order to reinforce their personal learning process, or \n\nC) a student who understands the material, is able to read the room, and is not-so-subtly restating/asking you for more information/clarification for the sake of their classmates in a way that allows you to save face, possibly without you [ever even realizing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edCqF_NtpOQ) how badly you've gotten off-track, misinterpreted a student's question, or just generally biffed your own lecture?", "I'm partial to him clearing the room for safety so others could escape a fire.", "I'm sure you have, but watch Curb. It's like watching the car crash of Larry David traversing hollywood.", "Indeedy :)", "> You want to hate her but you can't seem to.\n\nYou'd absolutely have asked her out, but dumped her two months later.", "Death in the remake of Twilight Zone.", "Came here to say this. They’re acting out the premise on a TV show about said TV show. Brilliant and I somehow missed this when I first watched the episode.", "My god the density of this one. Yes, its fucking scripted, but there are layers of inside jokes to \"be in on\" for you as a viewer you dumb motherfucker.", "Something you could read with dinner", "Acting without acting", ">This is from Curb your Enthusiasm. The joke here, which they're both in on is that the character of George Costanza was based on Larry David. \n\nThis person is 100% talking about Larry David and Jason Alexander, referring to only two specific people. Nowhere do they make any mention of any viewers. “They’re both in on.” And you’re calling me dumb.", "is that season 3?", "“ARE WE HAVING FUN YET?!”", "“What are YOU DOING HERE?”", "Bruh", "Met him once in LA “magic club”. This guy takes himself WAY too seriously!", "It's not scripted the show has an outline of what going to happen but it's mostly improvised***", "David Hyde Pierce made Frasier what it was. He deserved more Emmys, TBH.", "It’s the second best sitcom of all time, IMO, after Cheers. Seinfeld is great, but I personally love Cheers and Frasier so much more.", "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaVYfQ2e-Zw\n\nThis scene totally encapsulates why George is so neurotic", "Frasier is one of the most incredibly written comedies of the past 30 years.", "It is the rest of the episode is about how they can’t work together because Larry feels slighted that Jason won’t come out to his office for a meeting and Jason feels slighted that Larry is making a big deal out of it. They’re both George!", "ok , im hopping in. Theres so few diamonds in the rough.Understand the need for 'give it a chance', thats what i always have to say when im recommending my faves to others.\n\nok but im never going to watch Friends, you may aswell advise me to watch the kardashians. Just fake plastic nonsense", "And the pitch for the project for Jason is basically Curb Your enthusiasm…\n\nEdit: I wrote George instead of Jason. That’s how bad this thing is for that guy.", "Completely understand, but id have a very hard time not to with the few actors/producers that brought me SO much joy. \nI'd profusely apologize, but say i just had to thank them for the incredible work that they did, (and again the joy that they gave me). Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. \ni wouldnt request anything from them but to hear my gratitude. (no autograph. piccture etc).\n\nIts a short list, and both Larry & Jason are on it.", "What the hell does that mean?", "Cool. So if every multicam show is a little like a play per episode, Frasier is moreso because of the background of the creators. That's really cool to understand. \n\nWELP TIME FOR A REWATCH", "It means whatever you want it to mean!", "Start with Cheers if you haven’t seen that.", "Ok but he crushed in Shallow Hal and Malcolm in the Middle\n\n\n.... Where he basically played the same character (+a tail or + chess skills)", "I would walk away from this while you still can. You are they one that isn't getting it.", "You saying, you wanna piece of me?", "I'll put it on my list to watch", "Actually that might be a good idea since the Fraiser character is an extension of that.", "You should do it for sure. I’m actually pretty jealous. I thought I wouldn’t like Frasier growing up but watched it this way and it’s great tv and I understand the love that show/those shows get now.", "This is hilarious. A bunch of fucking morons who think they’re smart because they get something that other people don’t. There’s nothing to get. There’s nothing they’re “in on.” They’re acting in a scene lol.", "Same, first time watcher here and I feel oddly familiar with Kramer lol" ]	177	videos	Jason Alexander on George Costanza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUjzb3hVdNM	/r/videos/comments/qzmy87/will_bike_for_pizza_pov_ride_through_brooklyn_nyc/	[ "Whats the best option at Paulie Gees", "I'm a big fan of the Hellboy. It's got spicy soppressata and it's drizzled with Mike's Hot Honey. Good mix of sweet and savory and super tasty.", "I've never tried hot honey sauce before. How does it taste?", "Honey with a kick!", "I think it would be really good on fried chicken!", "Honestly, it's good on everything", "I'll also vouch for the Hellboy", "Worth the ride!", "100%" ]	9	videos	Will bike for pizza: POV ride through Brooklyn NYC for the perfect slice
https://youtu.be/F88BMarwtEw	/r/videos/comments/qznibe/norazo_cider/	[ "Possibly the greatest live performance of all time.", "Wtf did I just watch?", "justin bieber found the asian that does his thing better then him." ]	3	videos	Norazo - Cider
https://youtu.be/7GfWXN5Lp1s	/r/videos/comments/qzo83o/today_marks_the_100th_birthday_of_rodney/	[ "Still doesn’t get the respect he deserves", "Norm Macdonald better get one of these when he turns 100", "\"Hey! That kangaroo stole my golf ball!\"", "\"I bet you slice into the woods! A hundred bucks!\"", "We’re all going to get laid.", "What is wild is he appeared in Natural Born Killers as the abusive father. VERY creepy and horrible character. It was wild how good he was at it.", "Norm was good, but Rodney is legendary. Not just for his comedy, but what he did for the up-and-comers.", "What’d he do?", "The prune joke was repeated, so this is only 99 jokes.\n\nHe's still gettin no respect.", "He owned a comedy club which would host HBO Comedy's Young Comedian Special and would showcase a lot of said up-and-comers which helped boost their name and recognition.\n\nNot to say they wouldn't have made it without, but it sure did a lot to help.", "The club was in New York. It reminds me of that tragedy.", "Some party. If it gets any livelier a funeral might break out", "That doesn't surprise me. A lot of his material comes from his own terrible upbringing.", "Not even after his death", "I remember back in middle school we had to do a book report on a (auto?)biography and I picked rodney dangerfield because my dad suggested him. Little did he know, it describes him being mildly molested by his uncle...my teacher was shocked.", "I think I read that as well, like 15 years ago or something. Didn't he used to visit his uncle and just sit on his lap but he wasn't sure why at the time?", "It was a LONG time ago, but iirc he would make rodney reach into his pocket and play with a coin and other things.", "You might even say he helped change how we viewed stand ups. Those shows in the 80’s made stand up comics larger than life. And we all just wanted more shows with stand ups.", "I was walking through blood and bones in the streets of Manhatten, trying to find my brother.\n\n\nHe was in Nothern Canada at the time.", "He was the boomer humor origin. The one that all of the boomers tried to imitate but could only manage \"man hate wife\" because they didn't have the wit or self depreciation.", "That would make sense. In the movie he grabs his daughter and gets real sinister calling her a bitch and saying how he is gonna beat the shit out of her and her mom. It was like \"Ok, this dude has experience living that shit\"", "Watched the whole thing and he didn’t tell my favorite. ‘My wife like to talk during sex… just last night she called me from a motel.’ There’s yer 100", "Respect in Peace, Rodney.", "Almost like he was from another generation and era as us!", "[The triple lindy like you’ve never seen it before](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_Nwm7E_iuA)", "Such a legend.", "“My wife told me she wanted to have sex in the backseat of the car. She said I could drive”", "Speaking of Norm- [he's got a great Rodney impression](https://youtu.be/kVyA6h-K_Lc?t=501)", "Watched Back to School at a hotel a few weeks back after only knowing Rodney Dangerfield by name my whole life. Was on Amazon prime last night and it was reccomended to me there too. Then today, this video. The digital dangerfield ghost is following me.", "“I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out!”", "Johnny's sport coat at 4:34 :)", "[ Jump to 04:34 @ Top 100 Rodney Dangerfield Jokes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GfWXN5Lp1s&t=0h4m34s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Rodney Dangerfield, Video Popularity: 98.62%, Video Length: [14:48])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@04:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GfWXN5Lp1s&t=0h4m29s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Man I miss shooting stars memes", "Most of his \"wife bad\" jokes insult himself just as much as his wife, which definitely helps make it a lot more tolerable for certain.", "Deprecation", "Love this guy", "The last one (at least) counts as a double. “My wife, she’s up to 3 packs a day” is a second punchline.", "One of the reasons he was so successful is he wrote jokes for a LONG time before he switched to standup(he may have done some before quitting for a normal job, cant remember)\n\nHe sold vinyl siding or something like that, and he would just write jokes every day, put them in a dufflebag. Then when he decided to try comedy again, he was able to cherry pick YEARS worth of jokes for the very best ones.", "I tell ya, no respect, no respect\n\nThis week they were gonna make list of 100 of my best jokes.... but they said they could only find 99", "He didn’t tell my favorite either. “I went to my psychiatrist and he said I was crazy. So I said I wanted a second opinion. He said alright your ugly too.” Ha ha ha", "I wish he was still alive!", "So anyway a bunch of people got together and did some nice stuff on my 100th birthday.\n\nI can't help but think it's mostly because I died at 83!\n\nNo respect, I tell ya.", "Self depreciation is when your self deprecation gets worse every day.", "My mother never loved me. I asked for a bath toy and she gave me a clock radio.", "9/12, never forget.", "\"How does toast have bones\" had me howling" ]	46	videos	Today marks the 100th birthday of Rodney Dangerfield. Here’s 100 of his best jokes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w__a8EcM2jI	/r/videos/comments/qzobz4/the_tesla_semi_is_an_engineering_failure/	[ "Video brought to you by all the legacy automakers 😂", "Lol", "Of course everything is Big Oil right", "There's something very cringe about nay-sayers speaking as though they hold the absolute truth and this company investing all this money is obviously just a bunch of idiots. Maybe wait until it comes out?", "That’s actually better than saying “legacy automakers”.", "are you aware the legacy automakers are making EVs rivalling Tesla? or are you just a daft cunt?", "Nay-sayers are just the anti-fans. When you see worship, there's definitely gonna be nay-sayers", "That's something of a false dichotomy.", "This is legitimately the least accurate, least scientific video i have seen in a long while. This is Prager U levels of stupid.", "No idea what a “daft cunt” is or why you’re resorting to person shots, but I’ll have to call it good on this one because I’m not interested in trying to converse with a person that’s like that. Have a good one😁", "This guy gets himself so hard everytime he posts a anti-tesla video. \n\nIt's hilarious to see some nobody youtuber who posts nothing but cynical videos filled with blatantly and obviously wrong information bagging on electric cars because he doesn't like the CEO. Call me when an actual fucking engineer ways in on the Tesla Semi. This guy is just cashing in on the anti-musk circle jerk.", "This guy gets himself so hard everytime he posts a anti-tesla video. \n\nIt's hilarious to see some nobody youtuber who posts nothing but cynical videos filled with blatantly and obviously wrong information bagging on electric cars because he doesn't like the CEO. Call me when an actual fucking engineer ways in on the Tesla Semi. This guy is just cashing in on the anti-musk circle jerk and adding nothing of value to the conversation.", "Wow you post something that’s open for discussion and then get so personal. \nWhy can’t you just converse without turning into something nobody wants anything to do with? \nIf all you can be is toxic maybe don’t posts stuff people can talk about.", "The analysis is laughably bad. Start with the assumption that the battery capacity must be the equivalent of a full tank of diesel, and that there are no efficiency differences between a diesel truck and electric.\n\nBut we know both of those things are wrong: the use model for electric vehicles is hide the charge time overnight or while loading/unloading, and have only enough range to make it to the next rapid charger or stop. And the efficiency is quite different depending on the usage.\n\nA proper analysis done in 2017 by CMU came up with far less battery mass. It’s still likely not yet economically efficient since their estimate puts the battery at about half the load capacity — but at least you could move more like 8-10 tons instead of 3. https://doi.org/10.1021%2Facsenergylett.7b00432", "Calm down dude, you posted a stupid video, get over it.", "the fuck is a legacy automaker? people are discussing about the science and then there's this idiot coming in and presenting future and legacy", "using terms like legacy automakers for non-tesla manufacturers is a clear indication of having your head in the ass. Perhaps you could have helped your case if you actually talked about the substance in the video instead of resorting to stupid shots like 'legacy automakers'. Anti-musk this anti-tesla that. lmfao. \nWhy comment if you have no interest in the substance posted?", "The video gets to 9 ton capacity later on.", "Or maybe it’s the term used for the LEGACY AUTOMAKERS😂. You’re not even making any sense and just sound ignorant and angry for no reason. Have a good day angry internet stranger 😁🙌🏾", "Perhaps those legacy automakers have been building EVs if you care to update your encyclopedia? 😄😁" ]	20	videos	The Tesla Semi Is An Engineering Failure
https://youtu.be/c7FB_xI-U6w	/r/videos/comments/qzoce3/why_housing_in_some_cities_can_be_so_expensive/	[ "Density is more expensive. Its not complicated. The higher you build the more costly it is per dwelling, \\and\\ zoning for higher density increases land value. No city has ever became affordable by becoming denser. All other things being equal, the only way for a city to stay affordable is expanding to match the population increase and thus keep density low.\n\nCanada is a perfect (and self-made) storm of all the possible factors to make housing more expensive: Increasing population, densification of the cities, low interest rates, low property taxes, snow washing, even subsidies for buyers.", "> If building new road space doesn't necessarily help congestion, maybe building more housing doesn't necessarily help affordability either\n\nThis argument is so frustrating because it sounds intuitive at face value but it's actually nonsense.\n\nWhy would you compare price to occupancy?\n\nMost highways are free-to-access. Congestion isn't analogous to price, it's analogous to occupancy.\n\nPart of the reason highways are often so congested is because we do not subject them to market price signals at all.\n\nBuilding more housing won't reduce _occupancy_ in a high-demand scenario. It _will_ reduce _market price._", "I feel like a lot of these issues can be solved by young people taking more control of their local governments. Go to council meetings, support candidates, consume local news.", "yea, if you have too many flats you don't magically create more people. But if you have new roads you just get cars from more places and people switching from public transport to cars.\n\nIf you had 100 flats to chose from the prices would go down.", "Sprawl is absolutely devastating for the environment.\n\nIt paves over habitat, it expands the urban heat island, it solidifies dependency on non-sustainable transportation modes, and it produces a far more intensive demand for energy consumption for climate control during hot or cold months.\n\nBut worst of all, it's also economically unsustainable.\n\nUrban economies benefit from agglomeration. The closer firms and talent are to one another, the more they can interact and produce value.\n\nSpreading these firms out has an isolating effect and causes reduced productivity.\n\nBut spreading the city out also exponentially increases the financial obligations of the local government. They have to maintain more roads, they have to build more fire stations, police stations, schools per resident, they have to subsidize more expensive bus networks, they have to maintain more sewer and drainage systems. All to serve a small handful of residents per acre.\n\n> No city has every become affordable by becoming denser.\n\nEvery city that has built densely would've been more expensive if they hadn't.\n\nYes, taller buildings are more expensive to build than single-family homes, but a single-family home in an area with an extreme housing shortage is _far_ more expensive than an apartment or condo in an area that's building more aggressively to meet demand.\n\nTake, for example, the cost of a ranch house in Palo Alto, CA compared to the cost of a condo in Chicago.", "You are close to the truth which is that no unbound population increase is sustainable.", "Some studies have shown public transport is the driver, not roads: Traffic is determined by public transport efficiency. The faster you can get from A to B using public transport, the faster you can also do it using your car because less people are rebuffed by public transport when its efficient.", ">if you have too many flats you don't magically create more people.\n\nActually, what we have observed is that when any property market gets squeezed due to increasing demand, as soon as prices begin to rise, greedy speculators from all over the world magically start appearing like vultures to buy up flats and houses to further squeeze supply and push prices even higher.\n\nHousing is one of the laziest and most predatory forms of quick and easy capital gains for global investors.", "Building new housing doesn't magically create new people, it just allows them to move from elsewhere.\n\nThe greater proportion of us live in dense urban cities, the more sustainable our existence will be from an environmental standpoint.", "can you link to one of these studies?", "Its from memory, but I'll link if I can find them again.", "Absolutely! Unfortunately, young people and renters move around a lot and end up really underrepresented on local councils. \n\n\nThe best solution really would be something like Oregon's law which just says that a city with over 10,000 people can't have single family zoning. It's not perfect but it really would help prevent this kind of crazy price inflation due to housing shortages from under-zoning.", "Crime riddled dense cities no working class can afford anymore...", "That's exactly wrong and if you watched the video you should know that. Higher density cities are cheaper because even though the land is more expensive people don't want land they want homes. It doesn't matter if the land is more expensive if my 3 story house uses a third as much land as your single story house.\n\nPopulation density also increases the amount of taxes the city has to work with for public transit and other services. \n\n\n\"Expanding\" can help but that extends commute times excessively and makes the traffic issues unbearable since it's unlikely you'll have enough funding per square mile to effectively provide decent public transit. This idea of urban sprawl is why many american cities have multi-hour commute times and \"rush hour\" that lasts for like 6 hours. It's not viable.", "> no working class can afford anymore\n\nWe just gonna talk in circles? Urban affordability problems are largely created by _restricting_ density.\n\nAlso I'm chuckling a little bit in my head at the implication that everyone in cities is rich, but they're still \"crime-riddled.\" Like, a bunch of roving gangs of techies and wall-street bankers embezzling money and forging tax documents in dark dingy alleys or something...", ">if you watched the video you should know that\n\nYeah I dont have to take a random internet video at face value thank you very much. \n\n>Higher density cities are cheaper \n\nShow us those dense, affordable cities in the USA.", "> Urban affordability problems are largely created by restricting density.\n\nIts not. You and the video work under an incomplete hypothesis. We dont just build density because land value is high, thats incomplete. But allowing density also in turn increase land value, which is a well-studied effect (google and take your pick)\n\nIt thus is a feedback loop system unless you stop it with regulation. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n>that everyone in cities is rich,\n\nIts hard to explain such simple things, but cities being unaffordable does not mean that everyone in them is rich, it means working class people living there have no disposably income left after paying for housing costs.", "> But allowing density also in turn increase land value\n\nIncreasing the economic potential of a plot of land will make that land more valuable. But if the value of a plot of land doubles, and you put ten times the number of housing units on that land, then the value of the land _per housing unit_ has fallen by 80%.\n\nThe effects of increasing density that increase the cost per unit (more lucrative development potential, higher construction costs) are eclipsed many times over by the suppressive effect that increased supply has on housing prices.\n\nThis is not just the position I'm taking, nor just the position the video is taking.\n\nIt is the position that pretty much every academic and economist who has studied this issue has reached through their research.", ">But if the value of a plot of land doubles\n\nExcept it does not simply double, but increase in proportion with the allowed density.\n\nedit: In fact, it increases \\before\\ the additional density can even be built.", "If you compare the cost of housing in places that are densely populated (San Francisco, New York) to places that aren't (Montana, Alaska) you might reach the conclusion that density doesn't reduce prices.\n\nWhat this ignores is that demand for housing is driven by economic activity, and that economic activity is what justifies dense construction.\n\nSo it's not that cities are expensive because they are dense, but the other way around: they are dense because they are expensive.\n\nHigher density cities are cheaper _than they would be if they didn't allow density._", "> Except it does not simply double, but increase in proportion with the allowed density.\n\nThis is false, no study shows this.\n\nA plot of land which sees zoning approvals for a hundred new units does not become one hundred times as expensive. Not even close.", "Do a multivariate analysis and you will see.", ">A plot of land which sees zoning approvals for a hundred new units \n\nThis is not how it works. Its the number of sqfoot of housing you can build per sqfoot of land.", "no lol\n\nhttps://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/blog/2021/09/09/housing-prices-and-inflation/\n\nhttps://lao.ca.gov/reports/2015/finance/housing-costs/housing-costs.pdf\n\nhttps://www.nber.org/papers/w8835\n\nhttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10511482.2018.1506392\n\nhttps://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3149272", "No matter what system your local government uses to determine what can be built on a given plot of land, the fact remains the same:\n\nThe price of a plot of land does not increase at the same rate as the legal ability to build more densely on it.", "You seem to be confusing \"more affordable\" with affordable. Density is only needed due to high demand so by definition you'll rarely find a city that has such high density that it outstrips demand and becomes very affordable since builders wouldn't want to build there.\n\nThere are plenty of cities though that are relatively affordable. For instance hoboken NJ is adjacent to Manhattan but the average home there is only $700,000 despite a home in manhattan costing far more than that. In comparison, a home in san francisco is about $1,500,000 because it adopted the \"urban sprawl\" strategy until it ran out of room and prices just skyrocketed.\n\nIf you watched the video they cite a paper going over this. Cities that choose to keep large sections zoned for single family homes are far above the typical price for a city with an equivalent population.\n\nFor instance in San Francisco for the price to remain stable they'd need 50,000 homes a year, they only build 25,000. You might say they can keep building out but people are always looking to move near to the city center and the low density makes good public transit unaffordable. You end up with Lost Angeles which is absolutely enormous (greater LA area is nearly 34,000 sq miles) and has some of the worst traffic in the county, plus anything in the parts of the city you'd actually want to live near are still outrageously expensive.", "I see this argument all the time and have not seen any academic evidence that it is a substantial contributor to increasing housing costs.\n\nBut even if it was, the effect of increased supply on prices would still be the same. The theoretical speculator demand doesn't increase with increased supply.\n\nAnd those hypothetical international speculators can make money by renting the units out, which means regardless of who owns them, they still act as homes for people who actually live in those cities.", ">The theoretical speculator demand doesn't increase with increased supply.\n\nThe more squeezed a housing market is, the more houses you need to add to supply to release the pent up demand from residents.\n\nThe problem is there's not an unlimited supply of houses or land. It's bottlenecked and constrained.\n\nAs long as investors continue buying enough of the new properties that are added to supply, they can keep the market squeezed and making capital gains.\n\nThis scenario is playing out right now in the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, China, Ireland, and so many more countries.\n\n>And those hypothetical international speculators can make money by renting the units out\n\nThey can but they don't need to when property values double within 5 years. Many just prefer to leave their land bank vacant.\n\nThat's why Canada is starting to introduce vacancy taxes.", "Again, I've never seen any evidence this is a substantial driver of housing costs. It's always smacked of an abstract foreign boogeyman narrative to me.", "I said \"global investors\" not \"foreign investors\".\n\nGlobal investors include both local and foreign investors, because that's the problem here - the investor class.\n\nHousing policy has been corrupted to serve the lazy capital gains and rent-seeking of the investor class over the interests of regular people looking for homes to live in.\n\nDeregulating housing policy to the \"free market\" has resulted in the greatest theft of wealth by the investor class from younger generations in human history. A young family looking to buy a home to live in could once pay it off within 15 years. Now they're stuck in a debt traps for 30+ years. \n\nAnd now the investor class is lobbying governments to open up retirement savings funds to be used for deposits on inter-generational mortgages as a \"solution\" to the crisis of unaffordable housing. Talk about vampires sucking their victims dry.", "Where is the evidence to support this theory?", "[Investors account for a fifth of home purchases in Canada.](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-investors-account-for-a-fifth-of-home-purchases-in-canada-are-they/)\n\n>Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, investor buying has rebounded to 20.1 per cent of all purchases in the country, with a slightly higher share in Toronto and Hamilton, according to data published in the Bank of Canada’s financial system review. That is lower than during the tail end of the previous real estate boom, but higher than in prepandemic days.\n\n>One of the program’s most revealing reports is from 2019 and examined properties that were not “owner occupied” in three provinces. It found the highest level of investor ownership in the residential area near the University of B.C. in Vancouver, where 47 per cent of all property types were held by investors.\n\n>It also found that in Toronto, more than one-third of the condo market is owned by people who do not live in the units and who either rent them out or leave them empty.\n\n[There are currently more than 66,000 empty houses in Toronto: report](https://dailyhive.com/toronto/toronto-empty-houses-report-2019)\n\n>In 2001, the Canadian government first started collecting data on occupied dwellings and 7.8% of all homes in the country were empty. And this number only continued to increase. In 2006, the vacancy rate had jumped to 8.4% and by 2016 it reached 8.7%.\n\n>Canada’s second-largest city, Vancouver, has the highest share of empty dwellings as its 8.2% rate translates into about 25,000 vacant homes.\n\nThere's several housing policies that can be implemented to make housing affordable for owner-occupiers again:\n\n* Re-zone city suburbs to mid-level and high rise construction so that supply can be expanded in areas of high demand.\n\n* Mandate that property investors can only buy existing housing if they demolish to increase supply (E.g. sub-divide one house into a duplex or unit block.\n\n* Mandate that property investors must sell to owner-occupiers within 5 years of construction.\n\n* Introduce high property taxes on vacant housing.", "This video, like much in economics, focuses solely on economic cost in its solutions (more high rise apartments instead of single level homes!) with zero regard for human quality of life. This in my opinion is the single biggest problem with leftist mentality. The theories are great hypothetically but don’t consider the QoL aspect well enough. 300 million equally at near poverty is worse than 280 million slightly above poverty, 19 million a good bit over poverty, and 1 million a mile above poverty level.", "What are you talking about? How would putting townhouses in an area that currently has single family homes appreciably change someone's quality of life other than making it so they could afford to have a stable mortgage instead of an ever-increasing rent? Single family homes wouldn't even go away they'd just be pushed to the periphery of the city where they belong. The cost of housing would go down even for those single family homes because of the increase in the supply of homes. \n\n\nThis isn't even a \"leftist\" policy it's decidedly libertarian to tell the government to stop mandating how homes are built.", "Townhomes becomes apartment complexes becomes high rises where thousands of people are crammed together like sardines. Which is largely what the video was talking about. Through the video I only heard economic sense discussed and QoL was hardly mentioned.", "Being able to afford to live somewhere you want to live IS quality of life. Living near work for a short commute, paying less for a place to live to afford necessities and luxuries, living near friends. Right now there is a homelessness issue because of the absurd housing prices, I don't see how being homeless or being forced to move far away is preferable to seeing an apartment building.\n\nObviously, the slippery slope argument is a bad one but have you ever lived in an apartment building? It's pretty nice. I'm not sure why you think it would be somehow bad. A lot of people would rather live in an apartment building rather than living somewhere they have to maintain a yard and deal with maintenance issues.", "I have experienced downtown high rise apartment life, small town life, single home suburbs life, townhome life, and am taking into consideration experience with the high density lifestyles of large Chinese cities. High density high rises have always been some of the worst environments to live in, from what I have seen. People seem to counterintuitively become more lonely, overworked, stressed. Crime is almost always a bigger concern. Look at South Korea, Shanghai, NYC, Paris, etc. look at suicide rates in Japan. I for one am glad that cities in areas that can manage it go out of their way to maintain a more suburban environment over an iron enclosure of high rise apartments. The homelessness problem is a whole other topic, with a lot more nuance than there simply not being enough places to live." ]	37	videos	Why housing in some cities can be so expensive.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qFMMeElZ05E&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qzot02/how_to_stop_burnout/	[ "Oh ok. Sounds easy.", "Bitch.", "Crap, just like all your other crap. Your \"advice\" seems to only suit you.", "While I find this an interesting way of dealing with burnout, from a social point of view, I've encountered burnout where this just won't work. As an author, I've collided with career burnout and the only solution was actually taking time away from my career and experiencing more of what life had to offer. I never felt the need to lean on anyone, mostly because writing is an isolating career and I don't often have access to people. I'm just saying that recovering from burnout can be done in other ways; knowing yourself and your needs is the key." ]	2	videos	How to stop burnout?
https://youtu.be/zZkusjDFlS0	/r/videos/comments/qzp54h/i_dont_know_how_to_talk_about_this_radon_tunnel/	[ "Lovely ode to the scientific method, at a time where people really need to start understanding it.", "Absolutely, I think Tom's take here is incredibly well thought out and he presents both sides of it perfectly. A conclusion of \"we need more studies on this\" is perfectly fair given what has been presented.", "i’ve seen your vids before tom. i bet you do.", "Lets see, 2.2msv is 220mrem which is roughly 3 months of my yearly dose as a nuclear industry worker doing reactor maintenance/fuel movement. My assumption is that their 10 treatments takes roughly 3 months, so my general work dose should line up with their treatment schedule.\n\nMy anecdotal evidence isn't science, but I can assure you we consume as much ibuprofen as the next blue collar worker. Nobody has ever noticed anti-inflammatory effects from the dose we receive.", "Doesn't hurt anyone to gather more data via a double blind experiment.", "This is a radon test kit... \\snaps fingers\\ this is a radon test kit", "Isn't radon dose mostly confined to the lining of the lungs?", "While I also believe it's most likely quackery (even if that's just because it's an alternative treatment in Germany, and people here are somehow weirdly into any medical treatment as long as it's not scientifically proven to work), your experience alone isn't enough to say this doesn't work.\n\nThere are tons of different types of pain. And the stuff you'd fix by just throwing down an ibuprofen down your throat probably isn't what these people here are trying to treat. Some people suffer from just general - sometimes excruciating - pain. And oftentimes there is no clear reason for why they are feeling it - or at least it's often not easily found. I've got an aunt that got that problem.", "Tom Scott is the perfect blend of travel show and science advocate.", "> people here are somehow weirdly into any medical treatment as long as it's not scientifically proven to work\n\nThat's a really funny way of putting it.", "TIL: After smoking, radon is the second leading cause of lung cancer in the United States. [Source](https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/lung/basic_info/risk_factors.htm)", "That is addressed towards the end of the video", "I’ll be leaving them all over the office please don’t touch them", "I would watch a show about a rural doctor who has to pretend that all her totally cutting edge science based approaches are really ancient remedies and new age energy healing, just to get the untrusting community to agree to her recommendations. She even doesn't let them know she is a doctor, just an alternative health expert.", "Not rural but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0", "I mean, it still hurts the people whose DNA gets fried...", "Hurts the people selling this treatment when it's proven to be useless or dangerous.", "Whole-body gamma dose isn’t the same as alpha dose to the lungs. Not that alpha dose to the lungs should have any of the described effects.", "Yeah IMHO there is a 99%+ chance this is a placebo effect and nothing else.", "Yes. Alpha radiation cannot penetrate far into tissue, so only the outermost layer of exposed surfaces will experience the dose. A layer of dead skin will protect living skin tissue from experiencing much dose, so most of the dose will be experienced in the lungs, which have a relatively high surface area of live tissue.", "Just working off of the guy in the video making claims. He uses full body gamma dose as an equivalent, and also talks about the anti-inflammatory affects.", "Setting it up as a double blind study versus just continuing to run the radon tunnel as is would roughly halve the number of people being irradiated.", "Or just stop running the tunnel full of DNA obliterating radiation.", "That is a silent killer", "God forbid we learn something!", "It's a question of ethics. I'm not against learning, but I do think it's indefensible to gain knowledge at the cost of doing harm.", "Is that video an alpha or beta release? Just asking!", "Dude Germans have the weirdest fucking medical cures. \n\nSprained your ankle? Throw some cream cheese on it.\nEar ache? Cut an onion in half and slap that bitch on there", "From that source:\n\nThe U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimates that radon causes about 21,000 lung cancer deaths each year. The risk of lung cancer from radon exposure is higher for people who smoke than for people who don’t smoke. However, the EPA estimates that more than 10% of radon-related lung cancer deaths occur among people who have never smoked cigarettes.\n\nI know it's anecdotal, but everyone that I've met that is concerned about radon in their homes do not smoke. It seems like if around 90% of radon related lung cancer deaths are connected to smoking then anti smoking campaigns would have more bang for the buck than radon mitigation programs.", "Don't have to tell me. Thankfully my folks are sane and don't believe in any of that quackery, but you actually have to actively watch out for this sort of stuff when getting treatment. You'll actually be sick - say with bronchitis - and the doc will prescribe you some medication. As a normal person you're probably not too familiar with what every medication is, so you go to pick it up at the pharmacy only to find out you've been prescribed some homeopathic bullshit. This has happened to me twice. \n\nYou actively have to make sure you're getting real, actually proven treatment. Otherwise you might end up with some sugar pill or flavored water.", "> Why are you giving him drugs? What the hell are Pirin tablets?!\n\n> It’s just aspirin with the “a” and the “s” scratched off.", "> it's indefensible to gain knowledge at the cost of doing harm\n\n...without peoples' knowledge or consent. People sign up for clinical trials of potentially dangerous drugs all the time, and sometimes they do get hurt. As long as you're not lying to people or obfuscating the nature of the trial, it's almost always still worth it.", "We each have our own opinion and there's nothing wrong with that.", "It sure is a wonder he dislikes reddit, clearly nothing anyone said in this thread could point to why.", "Sounds like Granny Weatherwax from the Discworld books.\n\n\"In order to cure your back pain, you must walk every day down the path to the mystical old chestnut tree, circle it three times, and walk back.\"", "They're talking about using participants who were already seeking out that treatment without knowing efficacy or long term effects. The participants would already expect to be irradiated so having half reserved as control would be dosing fewer people than are already seeking this out. So unless you take the stance that the only course of action is to shut these places down immediately, performing a study would do less harm than continuing business as is.", ">unless you take the stance that the only course of action is to shut these places down immediately\n\nAs someone who worked in nuke med, I do.", "A lot of footballers were using a human/horse placenta (that part is unclear) treatment in Serbia for a while.\n\nArjen Robben, Diego Costa, Robin Van Persie, Frank Lampard, Nigel de Jong, and Glen Johnson among them.\n\nThe doctor was eventually shut down.\n\nhttps://www.thescore.com/epl/news/506163", "What is it with Germans and gas chambers? ;)\n\n\\[Edit\\] I understand the downvotes, but c'mon; it was nearly 80 years ago, we can laugh at the absurdity of it without disrespecting the victims - it's how we grow. Unless those downvotes are from people who chuckled and hate me for it, in which case - fair enough.", "I had my own residential construction company about a decade ago. I had a client that wanted to do some hefty renos to her home. So I went to start the estimate and as I was exploring the property, I saw it was a weirdly graded 4-level split. There was one and a half levels below grade. So I went to the basement to see what we had to work with. Half of her basement was a wooden foundation 5 foot tall crawl space completely exposed to the dirt and was maybe 8-10 feet deeper into the ground than a typical home in my city. \n\nRadon is a very common issue in my area. I knew right away to get the fuck out of there and get outside. I told the lady to go see her doctor ASAP and call a radon company after I explained the potential issue she had. Three months later she called me back to thank me but it was too late. She was diagnosed with lung cancer. She said she's had unexplainable bouts of sickness and generally feeling like shit. No one thought to check out her home. She passed away a few months after that.\n\n[https://myhealth.alberta.ca/health/pages/conditions.aspx?hwid=ty6131](https://myhealth.alberta.ca/health/pages/conditions.aspx?hwid=ty6131)", "Aspirin? No no, this is extract of willow.", "\"How dare you feed that man dangerous penicillin mold.\" someone before penicillin was discovered as an anti-bacterial.", "And a 1% chance this is a placebo effect and damaging radiation exposure.", "Did he sneak in a star trek reference? Scientific, historical or personal truth?", "I share your frustration with the German tendency for fake medicine. Thousands of years of medical science leading to this point, medicines that cure diseases that used to be a death sentence, a veritable trove of miracles at our fingertips...and you get fucking Globuli instead.", "wont matter for their customers", "Speak more about things that you have no training or in-depth knowledge of. Your uneducated opinion is very swaying.", "For people who have (unmonitored) high concentrations of if it in their home 24/7.\n\nThat's a bit different then 10, one hour long treatments.", "The point is that it could stop people pointlessly getting their DNA fried for the next 50 years worldwide.", "Seek help.", "But we already have this knowledge. We've had it for over 100 years. People are just ignorant to it.", "Seek knowledge.", "You are woefully ignorant about radiation. No amount is a \"good\" amount. There are amounts that are considered \"safe\" but that's the same safe as riding in a car. Any car ride could be deadly and any ion could be the one that knocks out a piece of DNA, starting the cascade of affects that lead to cancer or other harmful/deadly diseases.\n\nThe difference is that, while you probably can't avoid riding in a car for the rest of your life, you absolutely can choose not to knowingly walk through a radiation tunnel.", "Of course. I don't think there is any country on Earth spending more to fight radon than cigarettes. But it's not like the fight against radon is wasted energy, that's still people who aren't dying of cancer. \n \nMore interesting to me if that radon decay is a quantum phenomenon. It is, under most modern theories of physics, a completely unpredictable result of the uncertainty principle. The uncertainty principle that many consider a phenomena too small to measure. Yet it has huge, real life, consequences.", "Except that yours is narrow-minded and irrationally fearful. Why don't we ban smoke detectors, eating bananas, and going outside during daylight, too? Just think of all that horrible, DNA-obliterating radiation we could prevent people from foolishly exposing themselves to despite full knowledge and acceptance of the risks. Oh, the humanity!", "I wish our insurances wouldn't pay for that quakery. It's costing everyone money and doesn't even work.", ">Why don't we ban smoke detectors, eating bananas, and going outside during daylight, too?\n\nOk, Mr. Red-herring, people can die from drinking too much water, why not ban water?", "Yeah, that stuff gets paid for, but if you can't see properly and need glasses, you need to pay for that yourself. Brilliant", "You were downvoted for mentioning the holocaust by virtue of the video being set in Germany alone, not for disrespecting the victims. I didn't downvote you, but I'm certain that's why those who did, did.", "[OP isn't Tom Scott](https://www.tomscott.com/reddit/). He does make great content though.", "That's the problem with education. People with no education always think they're smarter than they are. Whereas people with a lot of education always think they're smarter than they are.", "My German friend said she was becoming a vet. I got curious and googled it, and turns out it was dog homeopathy. At an actual university! I thought maybe it was just her being weird but if it's a cultural thing that's... less funny", "Seems like you went the no-education route.", "No, just an open mind. All the text books on earth won't crack a closed mind, kiddo.", ">No, just an open mind\n\n>All the text books on earth won't crack a closed mind\n\nSomeone should introduce you to the concept of irony.", "Former health physicist jumping into the top comment. Radiation hormesis, as Tom states in the video, is an interesting hypothesis and not something we should wholey discard. The Linear No-Threshold theory is hardly scientifically on solid footing and I think this would certainly be an interesting study to conduct.", "Curiously, how did a wooden foundation and crawl space alert you to potential radon?", "Not exactly, inhaled radioactive materials can travel into the bloodstream, and into bone marrow, and the radiation that radon delivers is (by the definition of radioactivity) also causing that gaseous radon (Rn-222) to turn into Polonium 218. Most radioactive material will exit the body through normal removal pathways following relatively well understood biological halflives, however some materials will likely stay in the body and continue to deliver dose for several months, years, or decades.", "Hope it yields results so when I get pestered for the umpteenth time by RP to run laps around the cavity to save a few tenths of a millirem I can just say i'm doing the healthy thing by getting a little extra dose hanging out right here instead of climbing back up a 25ft ladder just to scamper back down it again 2 minutes later. Repeat ad nauseum", ">Radon is a very common issue in my area. I knew right away to get the fuck out of there and get outside. I told the lady to go see her doctor ASAP and call a radon company after I explained the potential issue she had.", "You tell me, bud. You're the one that actually does apparently want to outright ban a \"treatment\" with a well-understood, negligible risk profile on a fear-mongering whim, because RaDiAtIoN!1\n\nShould I be adding water to my nascent self-help book, A Future Lunatic's List of Unreasonable Things to Freak Out Over, now?", "I'm not well versed on the geology of it but I know radon gas comes from uranium that's dissolved into soil. When I saw the exposed dirt and clay in the crawl space I had a fight or flight oh shit moment.", "I think a big part of the appeal of \"alternative therapies\" in the developed world comes down to people not only wanting a feeling of hope but also the notion that they'll have ultimate agency over their own healthcare and access to curative options within the range they can pay.\n\nIn most of the developed world most effective drugs/procedures are locked behind the wall of prescription/referral by a medical professional (and not without good reason) - so getting them is only possible with professional accedence.\n\nIn a few places I lived before moving to the US though the range of drugs you could buy without a prescription was far wider and there was kind of a basic pattern to the way people acted. If you had enough money traditional medicine was kind of an optional \"why not\" for the maintenance of general health, with people moving to self-prescription at the first sign of illness and seeing a doctor only if that didn't work and then a \"traditional doctor\" if conventional medicine didn't alleviate the issue or sometimes as an additional safeguard (because who knows, something might work eh?).\n\nBarring the very occasional back-of the beyond tribal, the only people who relied on just traditional medicine until things got bad were those poor enough that seeing a doctor or paying for medical procedures would be a burden.\n\nI think that \"alternative treatments\" are always going to be around as a \"It can't hurt\" weapon of last resort in the face of medicine's failure to alleviate an issue; people will always want to hope there's a chance they'll get back to full health.\n\nOn the other hand, in the west I think a lot of \"alternative medicine's\" popularity is because it's patient directed. If you're a middle class parent living in one of a number of Asian countries and your child gets a sore throat in spite of whatever tonics they're taking then out comes the hammer and anvil of antibacterial lozenges and systemic antibiotics you've bought yourself and have on hand. and only if those fail do you take them to a doctor. In the US, the closest you can get to that without seeing a doctor are less efficacious/unproven things like echinacea and colloidal silver. So what do you do if you're a parent who feels the need to treat their children first before going to a doctor in the US? You use the best options you can get without a prescription and and not the stuff the more efficacious stuff that requires a trip to a doctor.", "Where I grew up in northern Minnesota there were radon danger commercials on all the local channels all the time as most homes have basements and it’s pretty prevalent in the ground there", "Last time I was in Ely it seemed like half of the adults were smokers. Imagine how many more lives could be saved by vigorously encouraging everyone to quit smoking, have multiple home fire extinguishers, smoke and CO detectors.", "Some of those may be missing that is a literal gas chamber for people in germany. The joke is certainly crass, but its also an absurd similarity.", "There was probably a way to phrase the joke where it wasn't quite so \"ha ha germans and gassing people, amirite?\" still.", "> duty to the audience, and to the truth -- scientific, or historical, or personal truth.\n\nLove the Star Trek nod.", "That does sound very offensive. The way the parent post put it seemed just vague enough, yet still controversial. As long as one watched the video and isn't assuming it's just because it's based in Germany, it's a good balance. 7/10\n\nThe best judge is if it wins top comment by controversial in a few hours lol.", "I'm fairly new to his YouTube channel and I'm a little taken aback by his stance. I've been on reddit for a while now and have seen its development and find parts of it troubling, but the internet as a whole is no different. It's like someone in the 90s saying the internet is just for porn. I generally like his balanced, thoughtful approach. That letter reads like someone who was angry, but mostly thinking about how articles could be written and the opinions of his peers and not the academic or social value that open discussion can represent. I appreciate trying to curate his brand, but that was terribly reductive when his platform is youtube of all things. His platform is what reddit links to for the conspiracy theory videos he's worried about and he is gaining views from its post here.", "Yeah that was disappointing, but it makes sense since YouTube pays his bills and Reddit doesn't.\n\nBut it totally read like someone that found out about 1 controversial subreddit and assumed the entire website was like that.", "yes.\n\nit was when Crusher lied about the accident", "It's the permeable, non-sealed nature of the dirt and wood that allows the radon gas to seep into the airspace. Something sealed off with concrete and plastic (a vapor barrier) would be protected. The other hazard is \"stale\" air, or air that sits in the basement (accumulating radon) and doesn't circulate and exchange with outside air. A simple fan pulling in fresh air from outside could have solved her problem.", "Most of the new builds in Calgary I've seen have a radon tube sampling point built into the foundation. Is it part of the building code now?", "A curious question for any historians here: do we have any well known historical figures who may have been suffered (and died) from radioactive poisoning? I am not talking about the famous case of Marie Curie. Given how little people know about radioactivity before Curie, I wonder what they attributed the death to.", "Haha", "By definition it absolutely could hurt people. This is why a study and ethics review is required in the first place. But it might be worth it.", "That's a bit irrational. High radon exposure increases your risk of lung cancer over decades, not minutes. It's particularly bad for people with CPOD but they're at a much higher risk for lung cancer to begin with.", "yeah it really did it for me. One of my favorite episodes, and one of the only really good Wesley episodes.", "> A simple fan pulling in fresh air from outside could have solved her problem.\n\ni've heard mixed opinions on this. I live in colorado (the radon state) and it's so far heavier than air, that you apparently need something to collect it from the bottom and vent it. then again, I've heard \"oh yeah as long as the area is vented it will be fine\". When I bought my house, the inspector found radon in the basement (again, colorado) and installed a vapor barrier and a pump.", "Why does the German answer to any ailment always seem to involve chambers one can pump full of noxious fumes at-will? Honestly I could see that alone be a big reason behind its lack of international interest.", "This… seems almost entirely unrelated to the point? \n\nThe people in these spas are being exposed to tiny amounts of radon/radiation. \n\nWe already know Radon is harmful and a very real issue. If you have a basement and are in an at risk area, you absolutely should get it monitored. \n\nBut I’m not sure what that has to do with the study of minor exposure therapy? It’s like saying normal cancer [radiation therapy](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/radiation-therapy/about/pac-20385162) is bad/non therapeutic by default because some people have died from cobalt-60 exposure. \n\nAnyway yeah radon itself is scary and nothing to be toyed with in your home. Be careful with basements in high risk areas. Radon detectors aren’t particularly expensive afaik. \n\nEdit: you know, I’m tired. I think I misread your intention entirely. I don’t think you’re trying to say this is bad because of what happened to her. Just general awareness. Sorry!", "Many people equate the \"placebo effect\" with \"no effect\" and that's just not correct. I hope someone does the double-blind experiment that Tom Scott suggests at the end of the video. Either way, we'll learn something.", "You do understand [radiation therapy](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/radiation-therapy/about/pac-20385162) is a thing, right? \n\nHow do you think we figured that one out. \n\nMedicine isn’t about causing no harm. It’s about minimizing harm and maximizing benefit.", "> In the absence of strong evidence, we should always default to the null hypothesis-\n\nTom Scott's graduate thesis... failed to prove anything. Null hypothesis.\n\nMaybe he's bitter :p", "[It’s not at all like riding in a car](https://youtu.be/niFizj29h5c?t=663).\n\nLow levels of radiation have no correlation with excess deaths/cancer. Any car ride has an additional risk over background. Low levels of radiation have no additional risk. \n\nYou seem to fundamentally misunderstand both radiation and statistics. Instead basing your argument on basic understanding and fear. Principally you’re not on the wrong track, but you lack the full picture and information. That’s fine, but stating it with such a solution and conviction is misleading at best, and deceptive at worst. \n\n—\n\nAny one ion could be that one, but you’re rolling that die 24/7, and until you go above a certain threshold of radiation dose, there’s is zero correlation between low doses and increased risk of cancer. Effectively, there’s some threshold our body is able to cope with without affecting the odds. \n\nThat might be hard to wrap your mind around, especially since it seems counterintuitive, but it’s also established medical and research science fact for decades now. \n\nWhat you’re speaking of is known as the [Linear no-threshold model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_no-threshold_model).\n\n>\tThe model ignores existing DNA repair mechanisms and is not supported by biological evidence and deprecated by international bodies specializing in radiation protection.\n\nIn short, it’s wrong. You may feel like you are still justified, you may feel as though your idea of how radiation works makes intuitive sense. But it is not supported by evidence. \n\nYou seem willing to listen to science and evidence, so I highly suggest looking into this instead of just making continual assumptions. There’s no shame in learning based on new info. You seem smart, just misinformed. \n\nIt’s not entirely unreasonable not to know, the anti nuclear movement has been fearmongering this stuff for decades now. Especially with argument based on emotion rather than evidence. (Plus medicine and physics can be horribly counter intuitive at times)\n\nEdit: Also worth noting that this is for low doses. Ie the one stray random background ion example. This isn’t broadly applicable to higher doses like a radon tunnel. Just wanna say that in case someone mistakes this as support for that.\n\nEdit2: oh and importantly, no single mutation will cause cancer, it takes several at once/compounding.", "[Linear no-threshold model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_no-threshold_model) \n \n >The linear no-threshold model (LNT) is a dose-response model used in radiation protection to estimate stochastic health effects such as radiation-induced cancer, genetic mutations and teratogenic effects on the human body due to exposure to ionizing radiation. The model statistically extrapolates effects of radiation from very high doses (where they are observable) into very low doses, where no biological effects are observed. The LNT model lies at a foundation of a postulate that all exposure to ionizing radiation is harmful, regardless of how low the dose is, and that the effect is cumulative over lifetime.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Pretty sure the guy was just replying as if it was tom scott", "7/10, I'll take that - & top of controversial too :)\n\nI had already watched the video before seeing this thread for it; I assist two people who suffer with chronic pain, so the topic is quite relevant for me. The joke would have been better off formed with an ', eh?' at the end instead of the wink emoji; I wasn't sure how best to get across that it was tongue-in-cheek.\n\nIt gets worse though, because in my head you've got Blackadder-era Stephen Fry doing the marketing materials -\n\n'Ve promise ve have made them better! Now they only kill you a little bit!'\n\n \\- because that's kind of how the Radon therapy supposedly works, causing a small amount of damage that triggers the bodies own healing process.\n\nI have a dark sense of humor at times, but hey - may as well own it :)", "She lived in the house for over 10 years. I saw an undeveloped enclosed space with zero air flow, I don't know the gas concentration, and I was aware of what could be there. So I got the fuck out and told her to call an expert about it. So I'm not sure how that's \"fucking retarded\". Take a chill pill.", "They're a newer account and seem to be a troll, hate filled one at that. Don't engage... Not worth it.", "It wasn't a correction.", "Plenty of historical data on the decades of after affects from hiroshima and Chernobyl", "The placebo (and nocebo) effect is bizarre in that it is actually so, measurably, effective. Probably one of the main reasons medicine existed at all as a profession in the pre-scientific age, was that people did the stupid things doctors told them to and actually got better.", "Nobody thought to do a radon check at her home? Geeze, I just bought a house and it has a basement, it's an older house, so getting a radon check was part of the buying process, as was a credit toward the purchase of the home when radon was found above acceptable levels! I thought it was just part of the home buying process now. You'd think it'd be a given with a deep basement, and a wood foundation...Never even heard of a wooden foundation for a basement.", "I think it's in the first few minutes of the video describing that the dose is about 10% of what someone receives with an Xray, spread out over 3 months. So your trip to the dentist where they blast your skull with xrays is probably a lot more frying than this would be.", "When I got my house radon tested, they compare the radon doses to the cancer rates of smokers! They show a graph comparing radon levels and risk of cancer vs people who never smoke, people who smoke, and the general population (I guess people who say they don't smoke but do fuddle the data?). It's kind of crazy that having radon 5x the acceptable range is only slightly more likely to cause cancer compared to someone who smokes living in the lowest level of the acceptable range. I paid about $2000 to get the radon system installed to reduce my risk of cancer, smokers pay way more than that to give themselves cancer...Crazy.", "Anytime I see asbestos I feel the same. I know just a little exposure wont make me get cancer, but still I'm like naw fuck this you need abatement done. Don't stress over that idiot.", "Headology is a hell of a drug.", "The scientific studies around radon are pretty interesting, the [wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_radon) on the health effects is a decent introduction.\n\nMostly they're interesting because of the lack of firm conclusions. We've got good data on high exposure levels and cancer, but the lower exposure levels are not nearly so clear, with some studies showing increased risk, some decreased risk, and others not much of either. As usual, confounding variables abound. A double blind study as Tom is suggesting would have a great deal of value.", "Yeah, it was really weird. At this point it was probably about 15+ years ago that I was there. I’m sure a lot has changed since then.", "Interesting comment indeed and I'm not entirely sold on the idea either, but even if we take your anecdotal evidence as a full on peer-reviewed study, it wouldn't be relevant in this case.\n\nThere's a huge difference between getting between getting X amount of anything spread-out over 450 hours over 3 months, and then getting that same amount spread-out over 10 hours over 3 months. Think of it like drinking 1 beer every day for 2 months vs. 10 beers 9 days spread out over 3 months. Significantly different results even though the dose is the same.", "Can you even trick dogs into getting a placebo effect from homeopathy? I imagine it 100% works on the placebo effect of the owner.\n\n>Scruffy ate the sugar pills and now I've doublethinked myself into noticing that he doesn't whine as much. Therefore he's cured.", "The effect is for the owner, I think. Granted the massage and physiotherapy parts may be useful.", "That's exactly what he did though. \n\n> It is unscientific to entertain something as beneficial before it has been proven to be so--to pretend that exposing yourself to a substance that has been proven to cause lung cancer under the guise of \"what if it works though?\" is simply negligent.\n\nThere's a bit of irony there because you take an unscientific approach to your statement. You are drawing a conclusion on different context, exposure, quantity, etc... that it is therefore equivalent and negligent.... except if research already indicated that, then we wouldn't be here, so that in itself in unscientific.\n\nNull hypothesis is simply defaulting to the status quo... and the status quo is that there is not enough research on the topic to come to any conclusion, therefore h0 : h1 = h2.\n\nBut you want it to be h1 > h2, which isn't null hypothesis.", "If you want more exact numbers, 220mrem would be over about 10 cavity jumps. We don't get dose evenly spread around, it comes in roughly 20-50mrem bursts over 3 hours or less.", "I've read that double-blind studies in the pharmaceutical world are set up so that everyone gets the placebo for the first two weeks, and those who show a lot of improvement are excluded from further analysis.", "I agree that it's a bad take, but not entirely incorrect. Reddit isn't necessarily defined by it's problems, but it certainly does have them. There are a lot of subs filled with hate and ignorance, and for a long time the admins turned a blind eye (and in many cases still do). \n\nI think he covers a pretty good reason early on - even if those perceptions are incorrect they're perceptions that are held by many of his business contacts, and there's no reason to cause tension and risk future prospects over defending something that has also caused him personal trouble.", "[Ooh, do you know the Inanimate Carbon Rod?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/8/8f/Carbonrod.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/615?cb=20100921010405)", "Prove that radon therapy is equal to placebo.\n\nYou can't, there in lies you issue, therefore what you are proposing isn't a null hypothesis.\n\nH0 : H1 = H2\n\nH1: Radon therapy is placebo.\n\nH2: Radon therapy isn't placebo.\n\nNull hypothesis dictates that since we have no statistical evidence towards H1 or H2, we must revert to the status quo, AKA we don't know.\n\nAnything else without evidence is trying to argue on belief, not facts.", "Ironic coming from the person saying not to seek knowledge.", "Not really liking Toms new Bait video headlines. The videos are interesting enough as well as the red triangle, without the bait words to get me clicking on it.", "For the record, the title on the video changed pretty soon after it was posted, to \"The tunnel where people pay to inhale radioactive gas\".", "Placebo can be a very strong thing.\n\nIf these people are experiencing placebo - and it actually helps them, is it really placebo then?\n\nThat's like... An infinite recursive function, or something.", "Germans hate atomic power.", "People in Germany are into herbalism and \"nature cures\"." ]	132	videos	I don't know how to talk about this radon tunnel (Tom Scott)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K8KEoZwMRY	/r/videos/comments/qzp8z1/why_america_is_terribly_designed/	[ "Urban Planning has cost america. We need to renovate it, 200 years later.", "America's geography and economic position better suiting long distance air travel over rail travel?", "how does the rise of airplanes explain the reduction of city-wide rail transit? \neven regionally, nobody is flying <400 miles on a trip, they'll just drive whereas a train would get them their faster and be more comfortable.", "Somehow I don't think airplanes affected the rise of the car, and cities designed around them.", "We've been needing to renovate for quite some time now. Jane Jacobs would tell you that.", "since when is travelling around town \"long distance\"?", "When American cities developed later meaning detached homes and large gardens are common meaning fewer people per square km meaning more stations and lines to achieve the same ridership and travel slower." ]	8	videos	Why America is terribly designed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_zkOGsFTzw	/r/videos/comments/qzpotg/macgruber_peacock_series_teaser/	[ "Seems like this whole thing was improv, like fuck it just roll the camera.", "\"Who's up for a little throast beef?\"\n\nThis is going to be amazing.", "Relax Vicki this is just like Nicaragua...", "Video not available in my country.\n\nAnyone got a mirror by chance?", "Noooo, noo, no,no,no, no, no!!!", "https://www.ign.com/videos/macgruber-disgraced-american-hero-official-teaser", "Thanks! You rock!", "Awesome, didn't know about this", "i have high hopes. this is good. by how much you ask? ... a whole bunchy bunch!", ">It failed at not being hilarious.\n\n.... wait.", "Taaaag? Tuuug? You guys okaaay? Oh fuck fuck fuck shiiiit!", "I loved the scene where he is in the office apologizing.", "i will suck your dick, i swear to god haha", "It may have done financially terrible but it is a classic comedy.", "I got shot in Nicaragua!", "It was hilarious", "Oh fuck yes.", "the celery trick", "This is nothing like Nicaragua", "100%. A lot of comedies are funny. MacGruber was hilarious. \n\nA lot of times the movie version doesn't live up to the SNL skit. This was the opposite for me. Forte is a genius for creating that character. Still have no clue how MacGruber was molded out of MacGyver.", "KFBR392. KFBR392. KFBR392. KFBR392", "Yeah, I'm sure piracy numbers are up because of this bullshit.", "Lol, that's my password for everything.", "MacGruber, Walk Hard, Team America World Police. All bombs at the box office, all top tier comedies.", "All you do is post trailers...", "All you do is comment", "For what it's worth, Peacock is a freebie (like, no credit card needed to sign up kind of free) that actually has a surprising amount of decent shows and movies, if you can bear a few commercials. I think you can pay to remove them, but it feels like less interruptions than regular tv.", "JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO FUCKKK", "Piper: Why did he do it? Why did Cunth kill your wife?\n\nMacGruber : To this day, I have no idea. We actually all went to college together. Believe it or not, we were very close friends. Then after graduation, he got engaged to her. He asked me to be his best man and right about that time, I started banging her and mowing her box. She was actually the first person I felt comfortable enough around to let eat out my butt. Anyway, shortly thereafter, she left him for me. She was actually carrying his child at the time. I asked her to terminate it, obviously, so we could start fresh. And she agreed. We were so in love.", "tbf it is mostly shitpost, comment is too kind of a word.", "The best!", "And the paid version is only $5 a month. I'm watching Psych on it right now.", "That's really fucked up", "DEC 16th! Was not expecting it so soon", "Thank you", "This is impossible. MacGruber is dead! He got wasted drunk, armed a bomb, then took his shirt off and ate a hamburger on the floor like David Hasselhoff. He gave up and quit, and then the bomb exploded.", "[MIRROR](https://streamable.com/cgglpg)", "I rotate two to three subs every 1 to 2 months. Catch up on conent. Cancel. Rinse/repeat. I also get HBO Max for 'free' with my ATT service.", "The Upper-Decker explanation got me.", "You're loco man", "\"NICE CAR, DICKHEAD!\"" ]	41	videos	'MacGruber' Peacock Series Teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF-KrSnixr4&ab_channel=RelationshipAdvocates	/r/videos/comments/qzptwu/elon_musks_first_wife_describes_their_relationship/	[ "Who gives a shit", "Apparently you do. 😄", "Explain", "Just an interesting perspective. It was also narrated well." ]	4	videos	Elon Musks first wife describes their relationship
https://youtu.be/Z_Nwm7E_iuA	/r/videos/comments/qzq6hb/today_would_have_been_rodney_dangerfields_100th/	[ "He always got respect from me\n\nRIP rod", "Napoleon and the tetherball was glorious", "Hey everybody, we're all gonna get laid!", "No, that's not possible. He wasn't even sixty when Caddyshack came out, and that was just... fuck I'm old.", "It turned that this guy actually did get a lot of respect" ]	6	videos	Today would have been Rodney Dangerfield’s 100th birthday!
https://youtu.be/dWYO5DxM7bs	/r/videos/comments/qzqnps/most_unsportsmanlike_disrespectful_moment_in/	[ "What was wrong with those boxers though? Were they supposed to “shake hands” first?", "Looks like the other fighter wants to fistbump before they begin. I dunno if its a unwriten rule to do it if someone offers it tho.", "Thats what I meant. Fistbump. Thanks." ]	3	videos	Most Unsportsmanlike & Disrespectful Moment In Sport History.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_oWmY_mkCA	/r/videos/comments/qzqr4e/2002_car_ad_demonstrating_how_inefficient_cars_are/	[ "Great cars. The 2004 Ion 1 I had went like 360k miles before the repairs were too much to stomach by my buddy (gave it to him at 225k miles)", "....how does this demonstrate how inefficient cars are?", "They take a lot of space to move small amounts of people. A bus or train could cram dozens more people .", "Also, how many hours a day does your car just sit there doing nothing?", "Compare it to something like this video and how many more people you can get into a much smaller space: [https://youtu.be/HvcJTqbiljE](https://youtu.be/HvcJTqbiljE)\n\nAll the cars being so spared apart is why you get traffic jams", "It not doing nothing. Its on call for you. That is why car ownership is nice. 24 hours on call service of transport.", "Sold my 1997 Saturn SL1 to a co-worker for a song in 2002, when it hit 100k.\n\nDumbest thing I ever did.\n\nHe drove that damned thing for another 12 years. Said it was the best car he'd ever owned.", "Akshually, it's that people love riding nose to ass and never letting anyone merge that causes traffic jams. If anything spacing people out more on the streets would alleviate traffic jams I'd say.", "But you could say the exact same thing about literally any object.\n\n\"Homes are inefficient because they just sit there all day while you're at work\".", "Ahh yeah that's fair. I tend to think of all vehicles as \"cars\" so I figured busses and trains were also being called inefficient. But now I see they specifically mean personal vehicles.", "Not really - cars are just incredibly space inefficient. If you had 200 people sitting \"nose to ass\" on bikes or as pedestrians, they take up far less space:\n\n[https://youtu.be/06IjfbqdnNM](https://youtu.be/06IjfbqdnNM)\n\n200 people in 133 cars (avg occupancy) takes up about 1000m of city space. \n\n200 people on bikes are around 115m, a 90%ish saving over cars.", "public transport vehicles objectively spend a way smaller portion of the day idle than personal vehicles. this issue is further compounded by their large size relative to the amount of people they actually transport", "If a bus just moves the same amount that a car could in its around that would be inefficient too.\n\nTo bad we all like our personal space.", "But that was not their intention lol", "Not intentionally", "Yeah but unless there's a traffic jam, or if you're in such a crowded area that your car trip involves walking from parking garage to parking garage, public transport takes way longer to get somewhere. Plus you're in your own nice little sanitary (if you want it to be) shell with your own climate control listening to your own music instead of having to sit/stand in a less comfortable setting with strangers. As great as public transport is for society and carbon emissions etc, the selfish benefits of just driving yourself take precedence. \n\nIt's the same argument against eating meat. Yeah it would be great for the world if we as a society all stopped eating meat, but call on individuals to do so and that'll never happen.", "London Transport produced [this poster](https://www.imgur.com/7vUapOn) in 1967...", "How...", "Public transportation sucks because it is designed to suck. Just like everything else in life, you get out what you put in. For the past 70 years, North America has been putting in next to nothing for public transport when compared to the astronomical amount invested in cars and car only infrastructure. As a result, public transport sucks. If we invested half that money into public transport, it would be a dream.", "Amazing", "I mean if people were dedicated to actually carpooling for work that would cause a huge reduction in cars on the road. If 90% of people carpooled and the average carpool had 3 people the difference would be night and day. Though it's clear public transportation is the way forward.", "My 2005 Saturn Vue was the best surf wagon.", "Unfortunately this is still science fiction as streets aren't isolated from all non cars a single human or animal would be like a grain of sand in a fine tuned watch. Maybe one day we can have this but it would require every single car to have it and for driving AI to make leaps and bounds over where it's at now. In the meantime we can just make more and better trains and buses. Instead of trains and buses with extra steps.", "That is true, however there's a [fairly decent response](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oafm733nI6U) that goes into why self-driving cars aren't the miracle traffic solution that Grey paints them as. \n \nAnd it's not even accounting for the inefficiency problems caused by cars when they aren't being driven. Self-driving cars won't fix [this.](https://files.structurae.net/files/photos/wikipedia/Dodger_Stadium_from_the_Air.jpg)", "Example #32,826 of how the average Redditor's first reaction on seeing ANYTHING is \"See, this shows how awful the world is\"", "In my country basically all year round you wouldn't want to spend more than a couple minutes standing much less walking outside without risking overheating. Cars are essential here, some days I work up a sweat just going to the car.", "Sell your car. Work from home. Win/Win", "I used to campaign for cycling and road safety. Here in the UK the average speed (not the top speed of said roads) of vehicles was about 9mph for years. In places like London and Birmingham it could be lower.. London got moving with bike lanes (despite some cabbies' objections, misinformation). Fuel based engines are only about 35% efficient too - most of your fuel becomes heat, vapours etc.", "I swear Saturns are indestructible. A lot of the people who bought them seemed like the kind of people who didn't take care of their cars, they just wanted a cheap car. I still regularly see Ions and Vues driving around.", "Public transportation inherently sucks outside of urban centers, because there's no good solution when people are spread out.\n\nWhen I lived in Chicago, it was no problem to walk around the block to the El, ride to where I was going, and walk a block or two from the train stop.\n\nI moved out of the city, and the nearest train stop is 20 miles away, the nearest bus stop is 4 miles away, and runs so infrequently that I think I've seen a bus on the road a handful of times in the 5 years since I've moved.\n\nIt would be completely impractical to use public transportation out here. Even if there were more busses, the routes would be limited, or a waste of resources.", "Way to make cities even more inhospitable. How will people walking or biking cross the street if intersection are basically gone?", "Saturn had some great commercials. [The song in this one is an absolute banger](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGOm8bCFBvo), I wish it was fully released.", "go to Tokyo, hop on the yamanote line light rail, it will completely change your mind on how efficient public transit can be and how far behind we are in the US.", "A bunch considering they haven't been around for 12 years. I had like 225,000 on one from 1992.", "Public transportation in the U.S. sucks because it's designed to suck. Remember, everything comes back to money. In a time before cars, cities weren't designed for cars. It took tremendous political lobbying to build a car-dependent infrastructure. The role of public transport in many places changed over time. In one period, it was designed to get poor people to rich neighborhoods so that the help could get to work. Then it was designed to keep poor people out of rich neighborhoods altogether. The zoning laws that dictate city planning are as much about [racial and class segregation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzBL85kTwwo) as they are for public safety. In my metro, the only new investments in public transit are for rich neighborhoods that already have direct freeway access, but are so far from downtown, they want express buses or light rail so they can have a lazier commute (or ride home drunk after a ball game). It's not about the individual. Car culture is a big money investment of business and government. \n\n\nIt's funny you use eating meat as an analogy. The prevalence of meat in the Standard American Diet (SAD) is also a still-somewhat recent development of history -- one that is a venture of big business subsidized by government. The two are so alike, a 1928 Republican campaign slogan used the phrase \"a chicken in every pot. And a car in every backyard, to boot.\" https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/chicken-every-pot \n\n\nBlaming destructive social trends at the individual level, \"personal responsibility\" is a trick by politicians and businesses to evade responsibility and shift blame. [Just 100 companies account for 71% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions](https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change), but what you probably hear more often from politicians and the media is that you need to be more responsible for your \"personal carbon footprint.\" That phrase? That's thanks to a [2005 marketing campaign funded by British Petroleum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_footprint#cite_ref-15), which is the 11th largest polluter on that list. \n\nThe world can be a different place. The media attempts to train you to believe that other ways of being do not and, indeed, cannot exist. The term for that is called [manufacturing consent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent).", "Japan's population density is 10x higher than ours, and their metro areas are more concentrated. It's an area the size of California with 3x the people. Basically imagine the density of Massachusetts but spread across California. Public transport works for them, doesn't mean it can work for us.", "[Here it is in gif format](https://i.imgur.com/sCvRIEd.gif). Yes an actual .gif file in 2021, hold onto your pants\n\nNorth america and here in australia we have been sold on car dependent infrastructure. Almost everywhere is hostile to pedestrian, cycling and public transport. It could be argued its slightly better in perth and melbourne due to trams and electric light rail, but in mandurah they just completed works on a two story carpark for that light rail, further cementing car dependent transit.\n\nMeanwhile in a large city in the Netherlands(Utrecht) just opened a [massive underground bike parking](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1I7oggRR8) facility.\n\nQuality shitposting format\n\nBoomers: Why don't kids play outside anymore?\n\n[The outside boomers voted for](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/53dd6676e4b0fedfbc26ea91/1519937324981-77MBM7RN4HDJ8N0MMZA3/7stroad+with+walking+person.jpg?content-type=image%2Fjpeg)", "People have been eating meat for millennia. Let's not go blaming some conspiratorial politics to explain how people like eating meat. It's tasty and nutritious. People eat it.\n\nSame with cars. It was a world-changing invention when the main alternative was walking or riding a horse. Cities built after cars embraced cars because cars they beat the hell out of walking and everyone wanted their own car.\n\nIt's not just an American thing, or specifically an early/mid-20th century American ideal....all of the developing world wants to eat more meat and drive nice cars. They're luxuries after all and much of human motivation in life is to want a better standard of living. And the countries that have increased their standards of living....they tend to eat more meat and have higher car ownership. :shrug:", ">Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media is a 1988 book by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky. It argues that the mass communication media of the U.S. \"are effective and powerful ideological institutions that carry out a system-supportive propaganda function, by reliance on market forces, *internalized assumptions,* and self-censorship, and without overt coercion\", by means of the propaganda model of communication - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent\n\nPeople have been eating meat for millenia, yes. What you have omitted, either by self-censorship, internalized assumptions, or plain fucking ignorance is the frequency of the consumption of that meat. I don't think it's necessary to even question your awareness of UN/FAO recommendations on the subject; you're probably wondering what the toy store from Home Alone 2 has to do with this. Entire civilizations managed to exist with no cars and dramatically lower meat consumption. The other thing you have omitted -- again, either by self-censorship or what henceforth counts as particularly willful ignorance -- is that actions have consequences. The way we eat isn't good for us, and over the past few years, you may have even heard one or two things about the consequences of greenhouse gasses, like, you know, the world being on fire...and drowning...simultaneously.\n\n>all of the developing world wants to eat more meat and drive nice cars.\n\nChina was just in the news for its new high speed rail, Japan is all about that rail, and plenty of European countries intentionally invest in public transit infrastructure with a de-emphasis on car culture, but hey, you're not a propaganda victim/promoter at all. :shrug: \n\nedit: Oh, sorry, were you referring to the dirt-poor countries that just want clean water and maybe electricity, the ones we've been exploiting and/or bombing to support our unsustainable lifestyles?", "at the end, when they closed with the line \"it's different in a saturn\", I honestly thought they were going to say \"different in a sadder sort of way\", but that they just clipped off the end.", "Your rebuttal is that you can survive without it? Amazing retort dude.", "I wasn't talking about all of japan. i was talking about tokyo.\n\nhttps://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/tokyo-california-population.png\n\nwhich is almost the exact same size as the greater los angeles area, but double the population.\n\nmost of japan outside Tokyo,kyoto,osaka, and a few other large cities is very rural.\n\nbut that doesn't change that it is an excellent example of what life can be like when you heavily invest in public transportation.", "My rebuttal was the statements they present as fact are comprised of falsehoods and lies of omission; that the lifestyle and values they champion are exploitive, unhealthy, and unsustainable at all scales; that this is as well-researched as it is patently obvious; and the only reason for anyone to think differently is a combination of willful ignorance and insidious propaganda. But your take was a truly brilliant interpretation in compliance with the highest standards of good faith. Well done.", "You're thinking way too hard about this. People just want to eat good food and have cool stuff. Unfortunately this human nature when applied to frankly way too many people is harming the planet and by extension ourselves. And with regards to our unsustainable lifestyle, the people that have it want to keep it, and the people don't have it want it. You can't fault individuals from wanting things. Quoting Chomsky isn't going to change that.", "I thought it was a good ad actually", ">You're thinking way too hard about this\n\nYou're being willfully ignorant, or straight up deceitful.\n\n>Unfortunately this human nature when applied to frankly way too many people is harming the planet and by extension ourselves.\n\nNo you knob, it's literally an exploitive minority. FFS learn to goddamned read. P.S. Subscribing to Malthus is unscientific, racist wankery. \n\n> You can't fault individuals from wanting things. Quoting Chomsky isn't going to change that.\n\nI can sure as hell fault you for attempting to pass off greed and selfishness as noble [empathy](https://thehardtimes.net/blog/what-being-an-empath-taught-me-about-avoiding-poor-people-at-all-costs/), for lying to yourself and others. Your excuses aren't going to change that. \n\nThat's the problem, isn't it? You'd have to change, you'd have to organize and get others to change, and you're far more comfortable embarrassing yourself with lies and excuses than to even simply admit the truth, much less do anything meaningful for someone else.", ">You'd have to change\n\nAlright I'll get right on that and get rid of my properly functioning 3yo 4-cylinder that emits less pollution/mile than 99% of the cars on the road in the world, and ride my bike to the bus stop instead. \n\nIf you want to guilt someone about car ownership then I'm the wrong one to do it to.", "You're gonna need surgery for that shoulder dislocation, patting yourself on the back like that.\n\nAnd holy shit, you really need to learn. to. fucking. read. And to stop the pathological lying.", "Fun fact: The 3.5l V6 in the Saturn Vue is a Honda J series engine. Great reliable engines, you just wouldn't expect one in a GM product", "you just changed how i appreciate my vehicle", "Dentistry from my garage, I’m in! Don’t think my patients will be though", "Ya, but I bet they also intended to make a good car once in a while.", "But at whos expensive? You thinking people enjoy all the wasted time waiting for a bus. Traffic in cars is bad but waiting on something else always feels longer. Plus the last mile of transport is the one that public transport can't finish. Park and ride is a good solution for the middle bulk of the transport.", "Get on your bus and enjoy the ride. Maybe covid will disappear so we can cram more people in, like the good old days.", "Gosh, if you say so.", "Is that Kevin Smith from Mallrats narrating?", "Plenty of nations have figured this out, I haven't met a person that has been to a nation with a well built public transportation system that isn't completely envious of what they had. At no point did I feel the need for a car when abroad. A a trip from one end of a metro area to the other can take as little as 30min even in rush hour. Here it takes about 130min anytime of the day while a car can do the 30min in the clear but at rush hour it's at least 1hr here.\n\nThis \"last mile\" in these places is more like last 1/4 or 1/2 mile as things can be closer together without so many 4 or 6 lane road and all the parking needed for these cars. It's not going to be an overnight fix but if we put in the time and money in vastly expanding public transportation in the USA would be a huge improvement to everyone's wellbeing.", "When you get into automotive history, you see just how much cross-design there is. Especially when the biggest brands brands bring foreign makes into their domestic markets.", "\"We don't see sheet metal\"\n\nThe doors were plastic.", "Even better, just work at home.", "Or a bike/scooter", "Nice", "It's time to stop thinking about public transportation and car pooling as the \"inconvenient option.\" For many Americans living in cities who don't have cars, it's not an option, it's a necessity. With how big America is, your mobility is your opportunity, and it's ridiculous to think that poor people should suffer if they can't afford a reliable car.", "Growing up in a suburb was so inconvenient. Me and my neighborhood friends had 3 places we can go on our bikes, the basketball court, McDonlads, or 7-11. Anywhere else and we needed a parent to drive us, but they were working during the day so what do we do?\n\nIt was even worse if I was hanging out with my high school friends who lived across town. There were no buses that went there, and if I wanted to my parents thought buses were \"unsafe\" and I shouldn't use it. It wasn't until college when I found out that buses are actually tight, they came every 15 minutes to my apartment and got me to campus reliably. I lived off campus for 2 years before buying a car because my city actually invested in things the residents (students) need.", "Yes where your at transit sucks, it's ok but not great where I live. But think about if public transit was the primary mode of transportation how would things be built around that? You mentioned chores ok what if I told you all those could be at the station? You think of the tiny station we have and maybe they have a snack bar, but in cities built around public transit that's where everything is.\n\n The big stations have entire malls built around them and smaller ones have shopping districts next to them. The trains and buses would be better built for shopping which is easy to do daily since you'll walk by a store or two in or next to the station.\n\nSee your thinking backwards it's not how will you have to change to use public transit it's how public transit and everything around it will change to make it all better. Right now I use a car most of the time but if public transit gets better our household will probably sell one car as we'll only need one to fill in the gaps of public transits downsides.", "Reminds me of this comparison of 200 people in cars, buses and a streetcar in Seattle https://imgur.com/gallery/sCvRIEd", "That's okay, if you keep the car in your own yard. But so many cars are always parked on city streets taking space that could be used for bike lanes and tram tracks, for example.", "high humidity?", "In my part of the country yeah that's a big issue but even in the landlocked cities it's horrible because it's normally above 40-45°c and really dry. We complain about it all the time, but most of us never leave lol", "> We complain about it all the time, but most of us never leave lol\n\nI didn't know everyone there were all my co-workers", "Got a really good chuckle out of me. Made my day thank you", "People seem to get by just fine without owning cars in New York City", "I mean it is true that lobbying/advertising has raised our meat consumption to artificially high levels when compared to human history. Humans have always eaten meat, but not THIS much.", ">I am now living 57 miles from my work.\n\nYeah this is another issue cause by terrible town planning in America, largely because of lobbying by car companies.\n\nI don't blame you for using a car in an environment that has been specifically manufactured to make a car the only sensible options.\n\nBut do try and realise why a car is the only sensible option.", "> Yes an actual .gif file in 2021, hold onto your pants\n\nI was about to push my glasses up and go all [ackshually](https://i.imgur.com/8coaTfc.png) on you about how it is, in fact, and mp4 or whatever but I'll be dammed. an actual gif", "Yep. Suburbia for kids is almost a prison system with roaming metal guards on wheels. So many americans vacation yearly to disneyland and wonder why the place sets them at ease, not realizing its built on walkability and public transport...", "A bus or a tram only takes me to a set of locations at a certain time and I most likely have to plan ahead and make transfers. \n \nA car is far more efficient in getting me to almost any location imaginable at any time with less time wasted...even at night or at odd hours.", "Idk how you got that title from watching this.. Not the message I got from that.. but okay.", "Tiny stations? Are you having a laugh?\n\nI was living in a country designed for public transportation, because in communism there was no cars for workers and everything was centrally planned from ashes after WW2. After the iron curtain fell and you were able to buy a car, everyone did it. Old, small coffins filled over the capacity with families, kids sitting on laps of older siblings, parked in every available place under blocks, where they lived. Remember planning for public transport? No parkings. Everyone needed it. The only person I know without a car is my sister that lives downtown in a capital in a rental (which takes most of her earnings), just next to her workplace, so she can cycle there, no kids, no plans for the future other than a Netflix movie and a date with one of her boyfriends. Couple years after 30 and still a child at heart. Not everyone can or want to have this kind of life. \n\nAsk people that have families and responsibilities from any European country about their everyday living in details, why they do not use public transport and buying cars.", "Saturns were great and reliable, that's why GM had to kill them; they were off brand.", "What was it like to buy one? They had a different way of selling? Or was it the same crap you get at other dealerships", "It doesn’t and that wasn’t the ad’s intention.", "a house's primary purpose is to be stationary.\n\nA vehicles primary purpose is to be non-stationary.", "I miss my Saturn. Bought an SC2 in '99, lasted about 10 years and 120K miles before it was just time to trade it in while it had a little value. Thing could move.", ">for a song\n\nGonna need you to elaborate here.", "$2,500.00, as I recall. Sold it to him cheap for his kid. He put in a little work on it, but it kept running forever after that.\n\nStill miss that damned car." ]	84	videos	2002 car ad demonstrating how inefficient cars are
https://youtu.be/jNQXAC9IVRw?2	/r/videos/comments/qzr64c/the_oldest_video_on_youtube_me_at_the_zoo_apr/	[ "I always glance at the dislikes to see if it's just one or two or maybe 50 50. That can tell you a lot about whether something is controversial or just stupid.", "Be a good person. Use an ad blocker on YouTube.", "I always did the same, glancing at like/dislike ratios to determine quality of a video. I fear that abuse of the system to amplify minority viewpoints is why they've taken dislike visibility away... like, as an example, you had hordes of antivaxxers disliking anything related to vaccines/public health, and that meant people looking at those videos would be immediately distrustful/assume they contained inaccurate information. I, and many like me, immediately placed faith in the ratings system as an accurate representation of the video content's value, and I think google disabled ratings because there was a divergence between content actual value and the rated value.\n\nOf course, then you get into the sticky debates as to who, if anyone, has the authority to say an aggregate rating is 'wrong,' as it's supposed to be representative of aggregate opinion--and opinion on a video is necessarily going to include the wider context of the content even beyond the video itself.\n\nI don't know what the best answer is, but I don't envy the position they have to be in while balancing freedom of expression, transparency, and avoiding the manipulation/poisoning of the marketplace of ideas", "Use an ad blocker on anything Google.", "> In business, there's only one thing more important than \"Make it better\". And that's \"Don't fuck it up\".\n\nGoogle just cannot learn this lesson it seems. So many products and services down the drains over the years because of endless terrible decisions.", "I'm still seeing dislikes on most videos, and I don't even have that firefox addon that brings it back", "DAE when Reddit used to have this too? Reddit Enchantment Suite used to show you the likes and dislikes of comments, now it's just likes. A comment with 5 upvotes doesn't tell you much of a story when that same comment has 50,000 upvotes and 49,995 downvotes. \n\nHonestly if everyone here is really so upset about Youtube removing this, where the fuck were they when Reddit did it years ago?", "Only exception for me is Vimm's Lair. That dude is keeping the flame of classic gaming alive. Modern day Library of Alexandria, but for gaming.", "Man uploads one Youtube video about elephant trunks, first Youtube video in the history of Earth, disappears for almost 2 decades, then comes back with a manifesto about the current state of Youtube. \n\nNow that's showmanship!", "I use Youtube premium.\n\nIt pays creators more than ads does.", "The Description Text:\n\n> Watching Matt Koval's announcement about the removal of dislikes, I thought something was off.\n> The spoken words did not match the eyes. The video reminded me of an interview Admiral Jeremiah Denton gave in 1966. I have never seen a less enthusiastic, more reluctant announcement of something that is supposed to be great.\n> \n> Calling the removal of dislikes a good thing for creators cannot be done without conflict by someone holding the title of \"YouTube's Creator Liaison\". We know this because there exists not a single YouTube Creator who thinks removing dislikes is a good idea -- for YouTube or for Creators.\n> \n> Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change? There is a reason, but it's not a good one, and not one that will be publicly disclosed. Instead, there will be references to various studies. Studies that apparently contradict the common sense of every YouTuber.\n> \n> The ability to easily and quickly identify bad content is an essential feature of a user-generated content platform. Why? Because not all user-generated content is good. It can't be. In fact, most of it is not good. And that's OK. The idea was never that all content is good. The idea WAS, however, that among the flood of content, there are great creations waiting to be exposed. And for that to happen, the stuff that's not great has to fall by the side as quickly as possible.\n> \n> The process works, and there's a name for it: the wisdom of the crowds. The process breaks when the platform interferes with it. Then, the platform invariably declines. Does YouTube want to become a place where everything is mediocre? Because nothing can be great if nothing is bad.\n> \n> In business, there's only one thing more important than \"Make it better\". And that's \"Don't fuck it up\".", "You mean the feature existed for a month or the downvote data would only be visible for a month? I def remember seeing the feature itself longer than a month. At least a few years.", "It was never actually on Reddit though, it was a hidden stat that you could only see if you had RES installed. It was also extremely inaccurate because Reddit would add random votes to comments to confuse bots. It was removed because it didn't really serve any purpose at all.\n\nNowadays Reddit allows you to sort by \"best\" or \"top\". Top puts the comments with the most points at the top, best puts the comment with the best upvote/downvote ratio at the top.", "Depends where you're viewing youtube from. New features get rolled out to the world gradually.", "fair enough!", "Has the change already happened? Because I can see dislikes on every video", "So is this guy okay with right wingers bombarding every liberal video with downvotes?", "This doesn't seem like a well thought out rebuttal lol. \"The Wisdom of Crowds\" really?? lol\n\nDoes disliking not affect the YouTube algorithm the exact same way even after this change?", "Are you okay with me down voting your comment?", "Be a good person. Cancel your subscription. Encourage creators to move to a better platform that allows crowdsourcing to identify bad videos, including videos that spread misinformation and contribute to human suffering.", "You could just admit you're a right winger instead?", "I use premium as well. It's handy for watching videos on mobile devices for the family. YouTube Music isn't too bad either.", "I'll have to check it out. Never heard of that before.", "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.", "I agree; because this feature didn't work perfectly for a small percentage of videos, what really makes sense is to remove it from the platform completely.", "It's a great a source of ROMS for emulators. Some games you can't even buy anymore.", "Instead of what? Down voting you?", "While I have no feelings either way about dislike being removed, I have never really found the like/dislike ratio useful or even paid it much mind. I use YT every day and if something I watch has dislikes I just assume people misclicked (clearly not on the divisive side of YT).", "It's not that dislikes should suppress videos from being recommended (that would not be good for various reasons). They help the viewer determine if the video is good/trustworthy/whatever, depending on the context.", "This isn't the actual guy. The description gets hacked frequently. \n\nLiterally, a few weeks ago I saw a TikTok saying to go check out the description on this video, and if you did, it would say \"Shoutout to \\[The TikToker's Name\\]! He makes great videos!\"", "This seems real tbh", "The other day I Googled \"Island boys\" because I've seen these two tatted up idiots a few times and wanted to know what they were famous for. The first video result was their Island Boy song. Once I started watching I briefly thought \"Oh god, no. This is what kids are into now?\"\n\nThen I saw that the dislikes surpassed the likes and it became clear they were mostly popular because they're bad. For a moment there I was feeling pretty discouraged by the younger generation, but was pulled back from the depths. Thanks to the dislike button.", "[According to articles](https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/17/22787080/youtube-dislikes-criticism-cofounder-jawed-karim-first-video-description-zoo), the actual owner of the video did change the description.", "The \"Man\" is Jawed Karim, who created YouTube and sold it to Google. He hasn't done much since then, but what he has done is in line with this.\n\n[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawed\\_Karim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawed_Karim)", "Well the article is just citing the description. I would not expect the journalist to know that his account is frequently hacked. I would however expect them to reach out for an official comment, which they did not.", "why is man in quotes? I don't see anywhere that suggests he defines himself as anything else... his wiki page uses he/him pronouns...\n\nUhoh looks like I upset the \"gender politics bad\" crowd lol", "I thought Youtube was older than that", "As a creator I don't agree with the idea of removing the dislike button and literally the only people I've seen that do like that idea are unsuccessful creators...that said, though, this guy is saying the button should stay because mob mentality is correct. If a bunch of other people dislike a video, you shouldn't watch it...or if a bunch of other people do like it, you SHOULD watch it. Crowds have no wisdom, the like/dislike count and ratio should not be a contributing factor to whether or not you watched or enjoyed a video.\n\nNot sure why I bothered, reddit is all about liking what other people like.", "Reddit had an official counter for posts too. RES did it for comments. It was never accurate, and always used fake numbers to obscure vote bots. \n\nOriginal announcement 7 years ago:\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/28hjga/reddit_changes_individual_updown_vote_counts_no/", "It was just meant to highlight the \"man\" isn't just some dude, but the creator of YouTube.", "you referred to him as \"Man\".", "...because it isn't a statement on gender politics . The user was quoting the comment above them.", "Because you said man as if he was a random, they’re quoting you.", "Totally reasonable. Vimms Lair deserves support.", "Ahh I see I thought it was a YouTube channel lol\n\nI never knew of this source but that's good to know. Archive.org is another great source.", "So is this guy okay with left wingers bombarding every conservative video with downvotes?", "They're eluding to the fact that he's not just some man.", "Found the youtube shill. I'll elaborate further to not look like a dumbass. Any tutorial video ever made proves you're wrong. I was gonna continue but that's all i really need to say.", "I really doubt that the co-creator of YouTube had his own personal YouTube account hacked. And if he did, I'm sure he makes 1 phone call and it's his again. Very implausible.", "> it would say \"Shoutout to [The TikToker's Name]! He makes great videos!\"\n\nbut the description doesn't currently say that...\n\nAlso, there are several questions. How is the description hacked but nothing else about the account? Presumably the account has a poor password. But if the account can be easily hacked, why isn't the video deleted? Why are there no new videos posted on the channel? Why is the channel's description just a link to a talk by Jawed? Why didn't the hackers change the account's password? How does youtube account security work? Does anyone have definitive answers to these questions? Why has nobody verified that Jawed is in control of the account? How can you say this is or isn't the actual guy when none of these questions are answered?", "I couldn't see dislike numbers on the Me at the zoo video just now", "[Screenshot](https://i.imgur.com/ZiT8jRZ.png) taken at 2:40PM EST, dislikes still visible to me.", "It still says \"The first YouTube video. Maybe it's time to get back to the zoo?\" im German. Censorship?", "Yep, and I'm sure the day will come where we're all forced to use the new UI.", "Gotcha.", "That doesn't happen though.", "\"first Youtube video in the history of Earth\" screams random to you? Living legend more like", "\"Politics\" \n\nLol. Right. People's identity is a political issue for you? fuck off", "we could just collectively decide that dislike is now like and like is now dislike, so the likes are hidden", "Or if you have a android phone just use Youtube Vanced for the same features as Youtube premium and more for the low low price of free.", "It definitely lasted for way longer than a month or 2. easily years.", "Such a simple mindset.", "The liberal youtubers that I watch aren’t “bombarded with downvotes”. Maybe reconstructing the entire website of the only major video hosting platform to protect a few famous liberals from bombardment is a bad idea, considering how it proves right-wing concerns about censorship correct by imposing that censorship upon everyone in the name of fighting the right-wing. I called bullshit when it was fact-checking that they called censorship (and I still do), but actual site-wide suppression of video information can only be defended by pointing out that Google is a private ~~monopoly~~ company and can do what they say with their power over us all.\n\nIf a YouTuber doesn’t want to be disliked, they can turn off likes and dislikes on their video. That is already a feature in place. Removing the entire dislike visibility system has no purpose but suppressing people’s ability to discern good content from bad even after creators have decided to be open to such criticism.", "What better platform?", "None of this is about gender politics or whatever, I’m trying to answer your question. You made it sound like it was just some guy who made the video, the first reply was explaining who made it.", "I agree with the wisdom of the masses wholeheartedly, but a legit question I have is what mechanisms have shown effective against the interference of the few; the brigadiers? Are there good platform examples or best practices that YouTube should have implemented instead?", "Any platform that isn't contributing to human suffering in a major way is a better platform. There are many.", "Do you know what politics means? Or the etymology of the word? It is about the struggle for power of a body politic, which is a society or group of people or subculture. So yes, it is by definition politics. They are people who are struggling for social power. Maybe ease up off your trigger (ed) finger. And not tell people to fuck off based on your own ignorance and misunderstandings. Just look at how angrily you responded (in ignorant misunderstanding) to literally everyone who tried to answer you pretty simple question. You are the problem, friend.", "Ah yes, my comment \"gotcha\" was so angry and ignorant, lol. Fuck off.", "In case anyone was wondering who Jeremiah Denton was: \n\n\n>As one of the earliest and highest-ranking officers to be taken prisoner in North Vietnam, Denton was forced by his captors to participate in a 1966 televised propaganda interview which was broadcast in the United States. While answering questions and feigning trouble with the blinding television lights, Denton blinked his eyes in Morse code, spelling the word \"T-O-R-T-U-R-E\"—and confirming for the first time to U.S. Naval Intelligence that American POWs were being tortured.", "He's just some rich guy. Sure he created YouTube but why do we have to elevate someone just because they did something people like? Smart, successful guy? Sure thing but he IS just some dude now. 90% of the people going to this link (aside from all the geniuses on Reddit who know everything) will just assume he is some dude who happened to upload something first. I had no idea who he was and most people wouldn't. I just came into this thread to find out why he had so many followers.", "True.", "I remember this! I was still just a lurker in those days. But they were simpler times.", "Did you ever stop to think about how the island bois would feel if they saw those dislikes though? Did you? You know they might get sad? Typical pretentious internet user", "Not trying to support practices by Google like data collection or unfair profit sharing for content creators, however ads are what make Google services and YouTube feasible. I don't think it's necessarily wrong of Google to monetize their services, they have to to survive, and many people do not want to pay subscription fees for every last thing they do online.", "They're gone in Australia.", "I was mostly talking about your comment to me, which was completely a misunderstanding wherein you seemed to think I was minimizing the struggles of trans folk or something, when in fact I was giving them the credit they deserved. Then you told me to fuck off (twice) for no reason. You are the problem.", "Ah yes, the massive problem that is .... this reddit thread with 88 comments and 401 upvotes. Fuck off lol", "Cool, thanks. My family use iPhone so I felt this was my best option. But if another android user see this, might be useful for them.", "Content creators should boycott the platform.. That'd make YouTube pay attention.", "2011 reddit would eat 2021 reddit alive. \n\nBack then, if it was legal in the U.S., it was allowed on the website.", "Repost changes its title in response to the constant reposting of this video\n\n&#x200B;\n\nlol", "There is no alternative platform that comes even close to the size/audience as YouTube. So this is a moot point. \n\nIt's not like creators/users are going to move over to a smaller site with less capabilities. There's a reason the people who criticize YouTube the most tend to be creators, it's because it's their only choice of platform.", "Yeah, there it is. That whole \"i was wrong, am embarrassed, so must double down with anger and trolling\" that i love so much about reddit. Reddit does, in fact, only get worse. Because of people like you. Have a nice day my ignorant friend.", "I'd expect one requirement would be a solid video streaming platform and a thriving community.", "me \"wait, is this person a man or a woman? I'm confused\" \n\neveryone \"durrrrr muh gender politics durrrr!!!\"", "You are insane. What you think this is about isn't what you want it to be about. You made a whole thing out of nothing, fuck off", "What the fuck is wrong with you people. For real.", "I’m inclined to think that the vast majority of current users probably weren’t on Reddit that long ago.", "Someone pointed out that this will make it harder to trust videos showing you how to repair cars.", "Those who designed that UI should feel bad about themselves professionally, and as people. \n\nNo, I don't design UI myself, but sweet Jesus can I tell when a UI is trash. New Reddit is trash that's been left in the sun for a week in August.", "True. It wasn't a big deal at the time back in the day either, however based on the comments that makes sense, because it wasn't an official reddit policy and they have since created other means to express what comments are controversial or not", "I'm in the same time zone, and was on YouTube at the same time you were, was unable to see number of dislikes. Just the word \"Dislike\".", "This is exactly the perfect video for the oldest YouTube video.", "Commentor 1: This man made a thing\n\nCommentor 2: That \"Man\" (quoting the above comment, not at ALL referencing trans ppl) is the creator of youtube\n\nYou: Are they trans or something (here is where you made a misunderstanding)\n\nAnother Commentor: No, you are just misunderstanding the use of quotation marks \n\nYou: FUCK EVERYONE WHO POINTS OUT WHEN I'm WRONG!!!!!\n\n&#x200B;\n\nLol you look pretty smart here hahahahaha", "People have tried that a couple of times, although admittedly those times have been when a swath of controversial subreddits were culled. People \"left\" Reddit in order to be able to continue to see / comment on that content.\n\nI don't like going to them but those I'm aware of seem to be mostly dead... which is probably for the best for those running them because running something the size of Reddit can't be cheap.\n\nWhat's more likely is that someone will make a browser plugin that reformats the site to look like original Reddit.", "What's stopping people from commenting on videos \"I dislike this\"? \n\n\nSeems like the creators that wanted to ban the disliking could just turn off ratings. I am feeling like a tinfoil hat wearer, are they trying to control politics? I noticed how every news video I went to I see mostly dislikes, regardless of the political spectrum... Couldn't they just turn off ratings if they didn't like that? Why couldn't disabling dislike views be an option? It just seems like they're trying to provide cover for those that want to use such an option.", "That's not even relevant to either side as dislikes are still visible to the creators. It's just hidden from the public.", "There's a wall at the children's zoo under construction at the San Diego Zoo with a screenshot picture of this on a time line.", "Obligatory fitting quote from Metal Gear Solid:\n\n> Colonel Campbell: “But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible.”\n\n> Rose: “Rumours about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander…”\n\n> Colonel Campbell: “All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow the rate of progress, reduce the rate of evolution.”\n\n(Although personally I love that everything is preserved and archived. Gives our trillions of descendants something to explore)", "You are such a degenerate loser lmao", "They're gone on standard web version for me but I can still see them using Vanced.", "Yeah but they can still see the dislikes and make changes to something people obviously don’t like either way - at least it lets other people know what they are about to watch is a bit steaming pile of dislike", "Dumbass alert! 🚨🚨🚨", "Now big companies will release terrible content and not face the wrath of the public. This is just youtube bending to NBC, HBO, EA, Activision, etc.", "oh yeah you have so much to base that opinion on based on this thread lol. fuck off", "Nebula", "A few days ago the description was only one sentence about the dislikes. Today is the first day that I personally cannot see the dislike count. Some part of me thought they would reverse the decision because this is just plain dumb.\n\nLuckily the main people I follow also have a Patreon page or other ways to support them. I'm going to cancel my YouTube Premium and find a way to transition away from YouTube.\n\nThis is clearly a way to wash away bad press for corporate channels or some other advertising related benefit. Only downsides for the Users who don't pay YouTube directly (unless you are a fellow Premium user). So, they're appeasing their actually customers.\n\nIt's not going to be inconvenient for me to transition away from YouTube but not impossible. I'm not going to boycott it just am realizing I don't need to use it as much and can still support the content I like without it. I'll probably end up watching less random videos.", "Hell, it didn’t have to be legal. Some stuff on here wasn’t legal.", "Well they do have all of your comments being a rude and ignorant shit-stirrer. So...yeah. Plenty.", "You can't fix every problem. And the problem of \"brigadiers\" was miniscule in the grand scheme of things. The best way to deal with that was probably to turn of likes and dislikes.", "You mean /u/fish_grillson? Totally correct. Dude uniroically uses phrases like \"beta male cuck\" lol. So yeah quite the degenerate loser lmao\n\nNow how about you get out of the house, stop stalking me, and start acting like a real boy.", "You’re an angry little troll", "Yes", "YouTube has been around for nearly half my life. Jesus.", "Straw man. They can be a total piece of shit in their personal opinions, Just like I'm sure your personal opinions are quite progressive. That doesn't make them wrong to point our your petulant little tantrum is pretty shitty.\n\nWhat makes you think I'm a boy? Not very progressive of you.", "I never ever get tired of this story. \n[video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufnWLVQcKg)", "Because he's trying to show this isn't just any random \"man\", this is the creator of YouTube.", "Man is in quotes because I was quoting you. : )", "we've established that a long time ago. gold star for you.", "Maybe this qualifies me as a bad person in your eyes but only positive reenforcement for everything you do can not be reasoned for by saying: some people might be sad if they see that people don't like what they do. You could shut down every comment section on the internet by applying the reasoning of \"some people might be sad when people do X\"\n\nIf you do something solely for positive feedback getting negative feedback can be hard. I get that but I do not think that it is my responsibility when disliking something to think of the person seing that number go up, that person decided to makethe video public with activated like/dislike button (which you could disable btw even prior to this useless change).\n\nIf you want feedback don't go ahead expecting that everything gets only good feedback.", "Just trying to be helpful. Hadn't noticed. You appear to just be a nasty asshole though, so fuck you", "So you'd be okay if they remove the # of likes too? It's also not the same comparison because even if you only saw upvotes, my comment would remain hidden due to the # of downvotes", "Comments can be removed by the author. Some scam /clickbait creators buy positive feedback, so that their videos appear to be legit, so they wouldn't disable ratings. Now they don't have to hide anything. Nobody will see the dislikes.", "fuck you too.", "COME ON: I expected to get rick rolled god damn\n\n^(reddit is really slacking off)", "And yet you've only doubled down on being a toxic POS instead of admitting your ignorance and moving on. No gold star for that.", "If everyone is constantly spamming, it isn't something they can do realistically. I am talking hundreds of thousands of comments. They are going to need to rely on Youtube's spam filter, which is easy to get around.", "This is that \"seeing assholes everywhere\" thing in action. Everyone seems like an asshole when you are, in fact, the asshole.", "To remove likes from YouTube just because it hurts the feelings of the Biden administration is just weak. The most votes in history, but 5000 to 1 dislike ratio????", "Not when likes actively determine whether or not the algorithm will favor a video.", "When it was 50/50 porn/gore on nsfw tags. When the nsfl tag still existed?", "Yes, removing the dislike button is exactly like being a POW in 'nam.\n\nFucking hell, this is just idiots mad that their efforts of reviewbombing won't be visible.", "Right? I could have easily made fun of him for not understanding immediately but I chose the nice route. Then he responds like an asshole lol. A strange individual.", "I think it would change nothing. They simply don't care about their users, they care about the companies that pay them money for advertisements. People will still be watching no matter what because the;re's nowhere else to go and they know that. They will wait it out and people will get used to it, like they do with every stupid change youtube has made in the past.", "Lol \"strange\". More like toxic and sad.", "I haven't seen it in ages, and then they included a screenshot of it in the latest admin post where they talked about improving their search. And I honestly laughed out loud- there is SO much bizarre wasted space, at the top of the page, on the sides, between posts... it's so odd.\n\nedit: [here's the pic. Can you imagine designing a web page like this?](https://preview.redd.it/sy2xlohwgm081.png?width=932&format=png&auto=webp&s=894ad4f53640a06c7f2627d74cee81f402890841)", "Doesn't matter if you have a monopoly", "RIP the Futurama neutrality video.", "....what?", "Yesterday I was trying to watch an 8 minute video on the mobile app (the mobile site sucks, I can deal with skipping ads ). YouTube actually loaded up an ad that was 59 minutes long.", "Going through my comment history to make a point HAHAHAHHA", "Really? Because when streamers get kicked off Twitch and move to YouTube they are very unhappy with YouTube as the alternative. Pro tip: Twitch hosts a lot more than video game streams and can be incredibly lucrative.", "If you look on the lower right hand art of a post you can see something that tells you the ratio. This post, for example, is 89% upvoted atm.", "You can just disable comments entirely, too.", "Damn, coincidentally this is the first video that I watch where the dislike counter is gone for me.", "Be a good person and stop giving your money to creators so that they'll be encouraged to move to platforms with far fewer viewers where they'll be making far less money?", "What a load of shit.", "God I hope you're kidding and you don't actually think dislike ratios and federal voting are comparable...", "The fuck you going on about?", "The users are not the customers for Google, they are the product. The advertisers and others who are paying google for visibility are the customers.\n\nWhat has happened is likely that some powerful customer of Google has complained that they did not get the visibility they paid for, because their videos got downvoted to hell.", "Be a good person by not contributing to human suffering on a large scale. This is not difficult to understand. The stability of civilized society is the most important issue. If democracy falls into a theocratic conspiracy driven dictatorship, how well will that serve influencers who concern you so much?", "And their content is still boosted/ hidden proportionately to their likes/ dislikes. It helps nobody except for some very specific public perception.", "Who cares about the dislike button? How are people so passionate about youtube?", "Got to cover those dislikes under any White House or Fauci related video.", "It's really not that big a deal. Just click thumbs up if you like it and report it for supporting terrorism if you don't.", "Works great for problem solving or DIY videos too. \n\nSo many trash or silly solutions or videos that promise help but have nothing to offer. A quick glance at the up/down ratio tells me how likely it is to be helpful.", "I want creators to get paid though. I can't have a thousand patreons on.", "Something missed in this post - this video was uploaded by the original creator of youtube. I feel like that context makes the description more powerful.", "Some stuff on here definitely wasn't legal!", "> nothing can be great if nothing is bad\n\nI'm loving the way this was written.", "From March of this year - [https://www.rt.com/usa/519642-youtube-hides-dislikes-biden/](https://www.rt.com/usa/519642-youtube-hides-dislikes-biden/)", "Am I crazy or are the other replies to this comment taking it seriously? This is definitely sarcasm", "For those who missed or didn't install: this plugin (Chrome or Firefox) restores the dislike count:\n\n[https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/](https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/)", "Imagine being this childish, mentally.", "Is the dislike removal something they are slowly rolling out? I can still see dislikes on chrome and on the ios app.", "When are dislikes actually going to be removed though? Rip the bandaid off if you're going to do it for God's sake.", "do people not see \"% upvoted\" anymore? maybe it's just a reddit sync/res thing.", "based", "This is the major difference for me. Reddit shows the cumulative total, while YouTube just tries to hide the dislikes to supposedly promote positivity", "They seem to be account based not region. I have a newer burner account that doesnt have it but on the account that I have had for many years still has it", "Dislikes count favorably as well afaik, it's all counted as \"engagement\".", "Aside from like piracy and drug discussion, if it is illegal, they probably shouldn't be giving it any grounds for sharing or discussion. Because otherwise, they are borderline condoning it and at the very least enabling it. (Old subs like .r.jailbait \\vomits\\ come to mind, and to those I say, good riddance.)", "jesse wtf are you talking about", "What was the description change?", "I'm confused how come I'm still able to like or dislike videos on YouTube?", "You know youtubers can filter out comments right? Most youtubers copy and paste a huge list of foul language to prevent asinine comments from being posted. So they can add to the list \"I dislike this\" or \"dislike\" and those comments never get posted", "[Eat shit](https://youtu.be/VFasOVBypVI)", "Try youtube blue to block ads if you are on android", "[This isn't a new thing](https://youtu.be/VFasOVBypVI)", "Any guides on anything, any tips, life hacks, tutorials. Now you can only go after 'most views', 'most famous'. Yeah sure, that'll support small creators.", "Thanks, I'll check it out.", "cool trunks too", "[This isn't a new thing](https://youtu.be/VFasOVBypVI)", "No, you just didn't understand the obvious reason of the use of quotes.", "I remember the last time (?) google had such a fuck up that jawed himself had to speak about it. And that was when [youtube started to require google+ accounts.](https://venturebeat.com/2013/11/08/youtube-cofounders-first-public-comment-in-8-years-why-the-f-do-i-need-a-google-account-to-comment-on-a-video/)", "Description. Not title. I'm German, too. (In case anyone is wondering, by law we have to mention we're German any time we comment on anything)", "It's by design, there's so few people running the ship at Google that they seem to let services die rather than hire the people necessary to maintain and improve them. I'm convinced half that company will be AI by 2040 if it's still around.", "Just use synonymous words. They'll lose.", "I love Premium honestly, it was better when it was $7 a month but the value in not having ads but still supporting creators I like is super powerful.\n\nI know Google and YouTube have major issues but they are still the biggest fish and they tend to be the better for paying on ad share to partners.", "The big tech companies use what's called a canary deployment. Random users will get the new changes in a slowly increasing percentage until it's either completely deployed or something goes horribly wrong and it get automatically reversed.\n\nThe name comes from the practice of using canary birds to detect the presence of carbon monoxide in coal mines. The canary might die, but it would save the miners because they would be warned and could retreat. The early users are the sacrificial canaries.", "Just FYI, the reason they're doing this is because EVERY liberal media clip gets disliked to hell and back.", "Worth noting that the description of that video has changed many times and is widely belived to be altered by people who are not the original uploader.", "Kind of funny most don't realize this was the real reason for this, just like all the rest of the censorship on anything critical of vaccines, etc.", "Even though free speech is incredibly important value that most places should place high value on, if the _central_ organizing principle of your community is free speech, it has some unfortunate side effects\n\n>[HL Mencken once said that “the trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.” \nThere’s an unfortunate corollary to this, which is that if you try to create a libertarian paradise, you will attract three deeply virtuous people with a strong committment to the principle of universal freedom, plus millions of scoundrels. Declare that you’re going to stop holding witch hunts, and your coalition is certain to include more than its share of witches.](https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/22/freedom-on-the-centralized-web/)", "In incognito mode you can still see the dislikes. At least that's true in my case.\n\nEdit: No longer working for me. Sad.", "So do dislikes. See how shit the platform has become?", "It was the only video that ever needed posting", "The description has changed many times in the past and was always believed to be changed by people other than the original uploader. I fail to see how this time is any different.", "None of that is evidence the video got \"Hacked\"\n\nHe's just saying \"the description changed, and changed again, so to me it was hacked\"\n\n\"A link was added, so sounds to me like it was hacked\"\n\n\"I'm a fucking idiot, so I think it was hacked\"\n\nIt wasn't hacked at all.", "Even bigger impacts in the IT scene. You can no longer trust IT tutorial videos. It's always been commonplace to simply dislike instead of commenting something rude on a professional video. Now there is no way to know if a video is bullshit by some content creator who has never written a line of production code in their life.", "this reminds me of when Pinterest decided to remove the Repins counter from images, it was never the same after that.", "New Reddit hides the % upvoted.", "Next will be comments. Then YouTube will become the new 'Cable'.", "Those are streams. That's a very narrow and specific genre that has limitations that aren't found in a format like a YouTube video. \n\nAnd that's before mentioning the plethora of streamers who post highlight videos on YouTube itself. Or the myriad of issues Twitch itself has had as a platform. Again, there is no viable alternative.", "Someone over on r/youtube [made this nice custom script to make dislikes visible again.](https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/qtyn45/i_coded_a_userscript_to_restore_the_dislike/) It works fine for me, so I suggest giving it a try and spreading it around.", "Most of the time all youtube dislikes can tell you is whether a video is being brigaded by a bigger creator's fans.", "It’s pretty obvious YouTube made this decision because they want to censor negative feedback towards anything that’s C0v1d related or Biden admin related. Both subject matters were getting bombed with dislikes by the general population and this is YT’s damage control. Also remember Youtube rewind? Haha", "this 100% is why they're doing it. advertisers are crying and bitching that their content is downvoted because it is an absolute shit..\n\nso what does Google do, it removes dislikes.\n\nGoogle takes it up the ass for anyone that will pay money.", "Best solutions involve giving users more information rather than removing important information.", "They removed the dislike button because certain brands and politicians (read powerful entities) put pressure on them when their videos kept getting high amounts of dislikes.\n\nIt's pretty simple.", "Reddit sorts comments by upvotes, this allows the best to float to the top.\n\nOn a YouTube video there is no information of if the video is good or not, the like/dislike ratio was what told a user this.", "Or check out Vanced Youtube, also blocks ads but you can also remove lengthy intros/outros, product placement in videos, and sponsored bits", "When a comment or post was new the up/down vote counts were skewed. As the comment aged it would start to reflect reality.\n\nSource: I inherited and maintained Reddit Uppers and Downers Enhanced for a while.", "Even if YouTube showed cumulative total it wouldn't work, there is no sense of if 1000 total is good or bad. The like/dislike ratio is what gave that info.\n\nReddit total works because comments are sorted relative to each other.", "Every reddit post still shows X% upvoted. I assume that means (100-X)% downvoted.", "Lol arguing pronouns then assumes you're a boy.. nice.", "I wonder if there will be a browser plugin that fills the void of up/down voting on YouTube so that people can better gauge content quality.", "My only counter to this logic is go watch any video with scientifically accurate COVID information and ohhhhhhh boy that like to dislike is crazy. \n\nIt is a heavily abused feature these days. What YouTube really needs is like a Rotton Tomatoes type feature built in so that the dislike button is not so heavily abused.", "What UI are you guys talking about?", "Does your Vanced still show the number of dislikes? Because mine does.", "I'm not sure if the change is even implemented yet but YouTube is NOT removing the dislike button. They're hiding the number of dislikes on all videos. You can still dislike or like you just won't know how many dislikes a video has.", "As bad as it sounds, thats how social media works. Totally unrestrained chaos makes a lot of gold but it also allows a lot of bad people to do their shit. Thats the deal. 4chan was and is popular for the same reason. Sometimes you get stuff like life saving charity, sometimes you get stuff like Qanon. Any attempts to clean up the bad there, or here, or someplace like Twitter or anywhere else, invariably also drive out the good.\n\nWorse, actually driving it out is hard because the good leaves much more easily. Look at how reddit has spent like a decade playing incel whack a mole but all that did was make them cycle to other reddit communities and spread the ideas and now elements of the ideology are common on even mainstream subs. Same goes for the various other radical elements. But the good that was there is gone because good can find a new platform way easier.", "I can't think of anything more catastrophic for everyone than now having to traverse the hellscape of youtube comments to gauge in any sense the actual quality of something.", "Yeah but with all the bots and spamming crap out there likes/dislikes are meaningless really.", "I was lucky like that, then they removed it for me a couple days ago. Fuck YouTube now.", "I think he's probably referring to [something like this](https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/25/did-youtube-remove-dislikes-video-posted-biden-whi/) where Youtube removed a huge number of dislikes on a Biden administration White House press briefing \"in an effort to stop so-called dislike mobs.\"", "Also auto block given words and phrases.", "I totally agree that Reddit should not have done that, but there is a bit of a difference.\n\nIf a top comment has 2000 votes, the first reply has 5 votes, and the comment responding to that has 1500 votes. You know that that comment was controversial.\n\nOn YouTube, it's a lot harder to benchmark against anything else.", "I think it was always their plan. The long con. Start out with free, user based, everything is your choice and about you. Of course they harvested user data, and they track our usage and interests. Then they slowly introduced advertising to a deafening degree, and said that if you subscribe to premium, there are no ads. What if, they introduce dislikes only if you subscribe to premium? It's just a thought. But what if they slowly remove features that are free and push it into the premium bracket leaving nothing but a shell of a platform that has to be bought at every level. I could be wrong, but I'm just rambling. Sigh.", "I don't think any of it is definitive evidence but it seems more likely than not.", "Being a canary if I just stop watching YouTube will they roll it back? Will it be like I died in the mine?", "He's obviously a male, why would you go into a weird gender politics diatribe?", "The Dislike ratio is literally the only way to know if you're getting scammed on a video or not right away, without digging through comments.\n\nSo many DIY and compilation videos are HORRIBLE, and are nothing more than auto-generated click-bait with stolen content. Seeing 10%+ dislikes is the only way to know if it's shit or not.\n\nHow about they hide it by default but let you turn it on in the settings?", "I've always wondered how an admiral managed to get captured. I thought they usually are far back.", "You think the creator of youtube, and a verified account is repeatedly getting his account hacked by people who do nothing else but change a description, and that's more likely than the owner of the account just fucking with people, considering there is no evidence at all of any hacking ever by anyone.\n\nTalk about naive.", "Everyone wins a ribbon at school sports now. And it is helping produce generations of people unprepared for reality.", "What's this going to mean for the [Neutral Response](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ)?", "1 video uploaded, 2,4 million subscribers", "If Digg hadn't messed up their UI...several times...I'd probably still be there. Much proffered it to Reddit back then.", "Ah that's lame.", "The problem is their exist the stupid people who genuinely think that's a valid argument.", "I use YouTube a lot for it's educational content, but before I get invested in a video, I always check the like/dislike ratio. If heavily negative I won't bother as it's likely not good, either poorly described or just plain wrong,", "You mean YouTube is trying to protect the “Do sOmE reSeArCh” people who use YouTube to get their echo chamber news?", "When old.reddit.com dies, so does my usage of reddit. I have no interest in the new Facebook lookalike version.", "It is more viable than the likely alternative, which is societal collapse. Have you been following the conversation? Been consuming news?", "> Now big companies will release terrible content and not face the wrath of the public\n\nDo people think companies haven't been releasing terrible content on YouTube the past 15 years?", "redditors are literally unable to detect humour without a /s telling them", "There's this comment from Jedberg 11 years ago in 2010 ([link here](https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eaqnf/pardon_me_but_5000_downvotes_wtf_is_worldnews_for/c16omup/)) in a thread that has other commenters saying they can see upvote/downvote counts. Then the announcement where they said they'd begin hiding those counts ([thread linked here](https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/28hjga/reddit_changes_individual_updown_vote_counts_no/), metacommentary [linked here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/28ho9l/reddit_just_removed_the_upvote_and_downvote/)) came in 2014. 2014-2010 (at the latest) = 4 years. Way longer than that month or two you're claiming.", "Talk about accumulating data to act as a central record always makes me think of 1984. Even easier nowadays I guess though.", "\"Adblock Browser\" is what I use for android and it works great at removing all YouTube ads.", "Nah, youre depending on too many people to know about its existence.", "Shout", "I've always found the following portion to be the most prescient and terrifying portion of that quote:\n\n>Colonel Campbell: You exercise your right to \"freedom\" and this is the result. All rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems. \n> \n> \n> \n>Rose: Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever \"truth\" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large. \n> \n> \n> \n>Colonel: The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh. No one is invalidated, but nobody is right. \n> \n> \n> \n>Rose: Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in \"truth.\"\n\nReleased in 2001!", "There is already one. Don't remember the name, but the dev made sure to scrape all the existing dislikes aswell so you could get the \"pre like snap\" stats aswell", "This is anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt but my boss used to work for Google making $1200/hr and he got hired by sending an angry email to Google about how difficult it was to run an ad through Adsense. At the time Adsense existed but it was rudimentary and Google didn't see it as their primary revenue stream yet (which it is now). My boss basically said \"this is what you're doing wrong and this is what I'd do to fix it, you fucking morons, why is it so hard to give you my money?\" They emailed him back with a job offer.\n\nIt turned out that Google had all these engineers and programmers but no one to look at the big picture and create a product that was pleasant to the average user. He was brought on specifically to help with that. \n\nAnyway, I think Google still suffers from this. There's no a single employee, it seems, capable of tackling their products from a UI/UX standpoint.", "anything happens this is just like in epic vidya", "Yes but you can still see them on mobile.", "ye, me too. my go to in similar spirit is \"if everything is special, nothing is\" and now there is options lol", "The new UI is nice in a couple ways, but mostly its just built to encourage endless scrolling because there's only 3 posts visible on your home page at any time. On the old UI I can see like 20 posts and just glance past the ones that don't interest me. And I never scroll beyond the first page, really. I just close reddit and come back later.", "seriously, how was Kojima so on ball with this in fkn 2001?!?!", "Other way around for me. I can only see them when I'm signed in.", "Pour tap water on live AC cables, it helps speed your electricity up. 312 Likes, Dislike.", "YouTube is removing the dislikes because of all the covid information from news sites being downvoted to hell. That’s my theory, they want people to keep buying into a certain narrative.", "Thanks, this will be a life saver!", "I believe he is the co founder of YouTube.", "> It was also extremely inaccurate because Reddit would add random votes to comments to confuse bots. It was removed because it didn't really serve any purpose at all.\n\nIt wasn't extremely inaccurate, it was somewhat inaccurate.\n\nThey obscured vote totals, but the ratio and the order of magnitude of votes provided a good indication of what was true. Controversial comments are now much harder to judge the controversy, and my use of reddit is worse off for the change.", "Oh man, especially DIY videos. 2.9k likes and 89 dislikes? Well, that's fine. 87 likes and 43 dislikes? Now I'm cautious", "Accidental deletion coming in 3, 2...", "This guy got paid big bucks by YouTube and is probably having an orgy in his 12th house. He has no social media presence besides this YouTube description stuff, but yeah, there's 0 doubt he's changing the description.", "He wasn't an admiral at the time. He was a Commander which is equivalent to a LtCol in other branches.\n\nHe was shot down.", "...I bet it will do wonders in swaying opinions.", "it already happened before 2001 on a huge scale in japan as the bubble popped in the 90s and everyone became hyper aware of how their society was propped up by complete lies. Japan is still considered to be in their \"lost decades\" since their economy and population growth remains stagnant while people are getting increasingly more depressed and isolated.", "> nothing can be great if nothing is bad\n\nGood words", "I'm just impressed they can remember the password and account after all this time", "If the dislike counter remains removed, I think I’ll just skip the video if comments are disabled.", "It's a wet dream for people that thrive off of spreading BS.\n\nThis just enables misinformation, BS, clickbaiting, and other similar non-valuable content to rise to the top.", "STFU, Chad. You don't own the company anymore. If you REALLY wanted some input maybe you'd have obtained and never let go of a controlling share. Youtube fucking sucks, Chad, and you made it. It sucks MORE now. So you sit there and fucking deal with it. At least you got a pile of money out of it.", "Also you can now sort by controversial which I believe is the lower end of the upvote/downvote ratio.", "Funny enough, the lack of dislike fucked me up this weekend!\n\nWas learning some Arduino stuff by watching videos. Thought I found one where the guy was doing almost the same project as me so I completely changed my breadboard to march his. Redid some code to work with the new setup.\n\nIt wasn't until after I watched the whole 20 minute video (bit by bit) and blowing past the Undo limit that I read the comments saying it was all wrong. I can only imagine the like:dislike ratio reflected the comments.\n\nLost a couple hours of progress between wasting my time and having to revert to a backup of the project that was several revisions behind.", "He was a commander when he was captured after ejecting from his plane.", "OK, Syndrome", "For a period of time Voat was kinda cool because it was just a bunch of people that hated the direction Reddit was headed but then it got really racist and shit", "I've been shot down tons of times. Can confirm it's torture.", "Its fucking hilarious that you try to support a 'moral' argument for switching platforms and your alternative is...\n\nAmazon owned union busting worker exploitation \"everyone needs to piss in a bottle\" Twitch.\n\nThe economics of video hosting is fairly hostile to new competitors especially since the internet loves free, and YouTube and Twitch offer free hosting. Video hosting is incredibly expensive - you have to store the video and also have enough bandwidth to broadcast said videos at high speeds. \n\nHence why there has been little to no mainstream competition to these platforms other than from giant corporations. \n\nUntil the economics change there will never be a competitor to YouTube and Twitch for video. Only silo'd small networks. Nothing like a large mainstream platform.", "So are view counts, subscriber counts, comments, lol. It's a shit show. I agree.", "The dude in the video is Jawed Karim, one of the three founders of YouTube, at the San Diego Zoo.", "Nah, new Reddit is awesome.... for the owners and the investors in the short term. More clicks means more engagement. Endless scrolling means more posts seen means more ad revenue. Remember, peon, you're not the user. You're the product. Ad platforms are the users.", "I like how nobody understand you were joking lol", "Isn't rotten tomatoes accused of having users \"review bomb\" it?", "Not really, how so?", "If you do some weird stuff, like refresh multiple times, go to the same point in the video, or like/unlike many times really, really fast, someone might notice. Or they might not, because it could be an automated rollout and they have specific monitoring they're looking at and a single exception isn't going to give pause.", "That has been a fixed ratio for a long time at this point, it was legit to begin with though.", "Right, but with dislikes no longer visible the community can no longer keep it neutral.", "These past few days on YouTube have been so infuriating. I'm just trying to find good videos on growing marijuana and I'm ending up with videos that give me no useful information.", "That doesn't tell you the ratio for individual comments.", "I'm kind of just okay with this, though. If the cost of free speech is putting up with some knuckleheads that want to call me slurs, I'm fine with that. They're not actually harming me in doing so, and the benefit is that I get to talk openly about anything that might be considered heretical or anti-authority or what have you. Its easily the most important freedom we have, and I vehemently oppose any infringements on it. I respect a business' right to refuse service (aka ban someone), but I think businesses have a moral responsibility to uphold free speech.", "I have experience designing UI/UX for websites.\n\nIt’s trash.", "That's what I saying, it won't be a thing without the dislike button sure however it has not been a real number for years, YouTube \"fixed\" the ratio sometime after it became a meme", "Even without people installing anything to vote, there'd still be metrics within content sectors for like/view ratios that could be mined to get a rough estimate for what would have been the up/down vote ratio", "Pfff, school sports. I won a ribbon at pencil sharpening because all of the other apes were trying to sharpen their pen!", "I'm the opposite. I have NEVER judged a video based on the number of dislikes it has.", "Really? That kind of ruins it, actually.", "YouTube already is a place where everything is mediocre. Nearly all the front page items are syndicated organizations or individual businesses. There is little soul and character left in YouTube. It is the entertainment equivalent of this weeks hot news.", "Which youtube already had a huge problem wth before this change.\n\nHow can one company be so complete and utterly bafflingly stupid?", "Enjoy your experimental gene therapy and hyper inflation bud", "Unless we make some changes everything ISN'T preserved and archived, a big example is MySpace. Some stuff was saved, but almost everything else is gone. Same with GeoCities (EDIT: I guess there's a torrent archive, nice). The internet can have huge chunks lost, especially the smaller, more personal things.\n\nLike if someone dies their Facebook would just be deleted, right?", "Any kind of tutorial really, there are a bunch of people who rely on YouTube as a learning platform, from programming, math and physics, to simple DIY tutorials or recipes , there is no longer an easy way to distinguish bad or even dangerous tutorials (without having to look in the cesspool that is the comments)", "Good supplementary info, I always reference this story. \"Blink in Morse code if you're in danger!\" and such.", "You need to hit on uglier women....", "\"Alluding\"", "NO", "Yeah, the previous description was a random shout-out to \"74 Gear\" (a channel about flying, run by a commercial pilot).", "It has gotten A LOT worse. Like.. a lot", "\\>op puts the comments with the most points at the top, best puts the comment with the best upvote/downvote ratio at the top.\n\n8 years lurking about and I did not know this. Mind blown.", "There was tons of upset. Where were you?", "I remember this, dear god I've been on this site 7 years", "Of course it does.", "YouTube starts rounding what it displays once the numbers get big enough, but no. Votes seem to be counted 1:1.", "Still a lot of money but crazy to think he only got $64m (at stock value at the time) from the sale. That's probably like 1 minute of ad revenue today.", "This. This right here. I needed to swap the intake manifold on my EA888 engine, and every goddamn video \"forgot\" to mention the near-impossible stalk removal with specialised tooling and just glossed over it. I quickly realised like/dislike ratio was a lifesaver, as I could only find one blessed soul who actually went in detail how to do it.\n\nAll from the like/dislike ratio.", "That's what they're saying. It was never the community. That was programmed in by YouTube shortly after the joke took flight.\n\nPeople keep using it as an argument for this YouTube change, but it was them all along.", "Wow, I thought this change just made viewers unable to see the like/dislike ratio. But the creators can't see it either? that's stupid.", "It's already in effect? With FireFox I still see the amount of dislikes and the bar", "Is that ElectroBoom? please tell me it's ElectroBoom.", "Ohhhh I didn't get the joke until your comment, lol", "In what, like the last 2 days since this change has started rolling out?", "Part of the issue is though that dislikes and comments are engagement that drive the algorithm.\n\nAnn Reardon at How To Cook That has done tons of videos on debunking viral content farm videos and one thing she constantly harps on is that all these companies are trying to game the algorithm and one way that do that is through dislikes. Dislikes and angry comments are viewed by the algorithm as engagement and so it recommends those videos more.", "Are you implying that if people don't leave YouTube society will collapse? I'm legitimately asking because I honestly don't know what you're implying. \n\nI feel like it's something about how YouTube is negatively impacting people, but that's literally all social media. Reddit included.", "I suppose if you saw a video that has a score of +10 and 1 million views, you'd think it's probably a shitty video", "I never realized how much I actually glanced at the likes to dislikes ratio until it was gone. Now I realize that I have never specifically looked at a video to see how many Likes it gets, only to see how many dislikes it has so I don't waste my time.", "Then everyone will learn that videos with comments blocked are the same as videos with more dislikes than likes. Actually everyone already knows this.", "Honestly I completely forgot they did this, as I've been using the 'classic' layout this whole time.", "YouTube says everyone is super", "> Honestly if everyone here is really so upset about Youtube removing this, where the fuck were they when Reddit did it years ago?\n\nJust as upset, which is not enough to stop using it altogether. Plus it feels slimier when Alphabet does it. Like I'm sure reddit did it for advertising/financial reasons somewhere in the pipeline, but it seems like youtube is doing it strictly and solely because big companies kept getting waves of dislikes, which I'm sure was pretty embarassing for them and financially harmful when it would make headlines.", "Very useful for any sort of informational video to tell you how important doing tertiary research is. If a video is disliked into oblivion, you should probably take a look into things yourself. One less metric to quickly determine how you should interpret something.", "Yeah, but I would view that as a separate issue. Also relatively easily fixable.", "What’s the difference in downvotes vs no votes? Like good content gets liked and the bad gets ignored? Essentially it’s the same system right? Without proactively disliking things. One video has 1.5k likes and the other has “3”. Pretty easy to spot them still? Or no?", "Like how they killed Hangouts and now want me to replace it's functions with 3 different apps, all doing a poorer job than Hangouts did in one?", "Well, here we are…it’s nearing the end of 2021. This was uploaded in April 2005.\n\nThe cool thing is that it’s pretty old, which is really cool…and that’s pretty much all there is to say.", "We should boycott YouTube. Say we won't be back on until YouTube 2021 Rewind is live and we can see the dislike count.", "It's blatantly obvious that this is political. Joe is simply not popular, nor are his policies. There's not a single YouTuber that agrees with this move and this will be the start of an even quicker downfall than the path Youtube is currently on.", "They were upset when Reddit did it too... The alternative was Voat... It was honestly one of the most vile things I've seen this side of the dark web.\n\nIf there was a valid alternative to Reddit, I'd be there.", "You're right, it's changed several times before. This one IS unusually long, though.", "You can see if a comment is \"controversial\" which means there is a lot of voting on it, but up and down. It's not the same, but there is some indication of voting ratios.", "Yup this is important. Effectively in the future of YouTube, if we want to get the same information as glancing at the likes/dislikes ratio, we have to scroll to the highest rated comments and see if there are any calling the video out.", "I work at a museum and we have “good sportsmanship”, or whatever some are different, trophies dating back to the ‘60s maybe some even older. This is nothing new.", "Sooo many diy videos and tutorials. It's a really slimey decision just so that we cant downvote propaganda and ads. Fucking joke.", "I don't know where the hell you were back then because people were utterly pissed when reddit did that, similarly to youtube now. It wasn't enough for people to stop using the site entirely so everyone just moved on. But reddit is still completely different in this regard because the upvote counter you see is upvotes and downvotes added/subtracted to form the total. On youtube it's only showing total thumbs up without any indication of thumbs down whatsoever, which is much much worse.", "Some people would think that seriously though", "What about something that has 1.5k likes but if it had had dislikes would have 15k dislikes. I don't know, both systems suck for their own reasons.\n\nI guess you'd have to look at the total views VS like count now. If something has 1 million views and only 1.5k likes something is up.", "$1200 an hour?", "I still have dislikes and likes on mine even without the plugin?", "I don't think Youtube can be a viable education medium anymore.", "You DON'T want to see some influencer talk about her favourite latte place in the valley or Jimmy Fallon playing tic tac toe with The Rock?!", ">How can one company be so complete and utterly bafflingly stupid?\n\nThey're not stupid. Evil, maybe but not stupid. They make a shit ton of money off misinformation, clickbate, etc. They want you watching more and more videos. They know that by removing the downvote they will likely get you watching more crap and make more money, truth and integrity be damned.", "#\" \"\" \"", "Or blinder ones.", "Get this comment to the top!", "User base was more open minded as well, now basically all political subs have an agenda and block anyone who isn't with it.", "Oh we were pissed back then too. It was a big thing.", ">Reddit Enchantment Suite", "Containment boards/subreddits are always the best solution. When r/thedonald existed but was quarantined was when I heard least from them. Now that it's all concentrated on r/conservatism or blown into the wind I have to see it all the time. \n\nThey're always going to exist, give them their hole and let them die in it.", "No, all it will do is support propaganda campaigns.\n\nIf anyone doesn’t think the government is behind this, they need a fucking reality check.", "2.5 million per year. That checks out if you factor in stock appreciation.", "the problem with what people call \"heaven\"", "Well, modern general consensus is that ideas can be exterminated.\n\nWhy this is such a popular notion is beyond me. We know abstinence only education is a joke for sex ed, and we know that drug prohibition is a losing battle...so why do we expect these tactics to work in other areas?\n\nNobody wants to admit that with free speech, you have to accept the good with the bad. It's just a fact of human nature. You either let it exist and combat it in the open where at least it is a known danger, of you force it to hide and end up with a growing cancer that nobody truly knows the extent of.", "The number of Times i see in the comments of some technical videos advanced users writing in the comments \"hey, you are going to fry / destroy / burn the house / kill someone with this advice or setup, dude !\". Regarding wikipedia, there is a lot of valuable remarks in the discussion tab...", "The analogy sorta breaks down when you realize there are tens of thousands of canaries. One dying means nothing. If half of em died, maybe they'd pause and figure out how to implement the changes they want in a more subtle way.\n\nBut probably not, since they're a defacto monopoly.", "I wonder how long it will work", "> Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change?\n\nWell they didn’t know it was universally disliked with the dislikes hidden", "Just an FYI, you can easily switch the homepage to \"classic\" where it shows content with about the same density as old.reddit rather than the default Facebook-tier. Hope they don't remove that option, I like having more content on my screen too.\n\nI switched pretty quick after they announced the new UI, figuring I'd rather get used to it on my own volition before it's forced on me when they inevitably sunset old.reddit, and honestly, I don't mind it much at all. Not sure what the gripes are if you wanna share.", "What is it with businesses lately trying to fix \"toxicity\" by simply removing speech all together. Riots \"All/ chat removal\", Youtubes \"Can't dislike videos\" What next?", "Game came out too early. People thought it was pseudo philosophical bullshit at the time.\n\nNow it's all come true with the radical left and alt right forming their own polarized bubbles online.", "Thankfully in this case I would have just been frying my components over time but yeah I've definitely seen comments like that lol\n\nTechnical youtube is my favorite youtube and likes/dislikes are incredibly important for it", "It's how the owners view us though", "i wonder if those giant clickbait video channels actually secretly petitioned youtube to get rid of dislikes? like those channels that say i easy step to do blah blah blah and its a 5 minute video with no explanation of the step. usually they have a ton of views but a ton of dislikes too so maybe asking youtube for help?", "Internet Explorer just now catching up on last week's news.", "> 5 upvotes doesn't tell you much of a story when that same comment has 50,000 upvotes and 49,995 downvotes\n\n\nYour point is still quite relevant... but just a heads up they changed that a few years back. It is now an algorithm.\n\nhttps://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204511829-What-is-karma-\n\n> The more upvotes you get, the more karma you’ll receive. However, karma is only an approximate reflection of your upvotes and not a 1:1 relationship.", "Why do you need to bring them into it though?\n\nThey are just the island boys, yea, they're just the island boys", "random kid said it so it must be true", "Why is that?\n\nIt's definitely true but it still surprises me every so often", "That will be the day I stop using this website.\n\nModern web design is largely a cargo cult. Flashy \"interactive\" and excessively simple design, which is very good for presenting certain specialized information, forced on everything.", "Hence the option for those things to be hidden; now that option is being replaced with another one that is potentially worse for the platform.", ">Are you implying that if people don't leave YouTube society will collapse?\n\nI'm directly stating that supporting Youtube supports human suffering.", "That, and the first half of the Important Videos playlist.", "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes... Or should I?", "daaaamn you cant even answer the question.", "Will people still be able to dislike things with this plugin? Or does it just display the dislikes from before they removed the feature?", "That's actually said by Dash.", "> Its fucking hilarious\n\n>your alternative is...\n\nThe far lesser of two evils. But okay, laugh at human suffering if you get off on it.", "The day that happens, I'm down to about 5% use. Which is quickly what is happening to youtube. I still have the channels I like that I'm subscribed to, but I tried browsing other content and just kept seeing absolute cancer. Poor or dangerous advice. Straight up commercials. People doing shit prank videos that didn't say so in the title. There's just no point to trying to navigate all this crap without indication. The number of likes a video has means nothing, because somehow even the worst videos still get plenty of likes. The savior was that they had plenty more dislikes.", "So he says.", "Yeah, a lot of these clowns don't even look outside social media - trapped inside of the echo chamber, and all they have to do is click a link to escape.", "> Honestly if everyone here is really so upset about Youtube removing this, where the fuck were they when Reddit did it years ago?\n\nPlenty of us were upset then too -- there was an outright boycott of reddit over this change at the time. Much like now, the criticism is unfortunately unlikely to go anywhere though. \n\nThough -- in the complete interest of fairness to the collation of the two, reddit still didn't only show you the upvotes following the change, the point total remained a form of comparison, (Upvotes - Downvotes). Wheras, currently at least, youtube has kept the metrics separate and just hidden it's dislikes. Meaning that, while I might prefer to know exact totals on reddit comments, the point totals on reddit are still a form of comparison and the number has value for it; while simply removing dislikes on youtube leaves likes without any context or meaning. \n\nIf it has a million views and 10k likes, is that a lot? Relatively few? How many people voted total? We have no way of knowing as there's no way to see how many people engaged with it. They might as well have removed both for all the good one does without the other.", "> Honestly if everyone here is really so upset about Youtube removing this, where the fuck were they when Reddit did it years ago?\n\n1) There were lots of people pissed when reddit made that change.\n\n2) Youtube is a lot bigger than reddit was when it made the change.", "It's obviously because mainstream media gets disliked at a high rate and they want to hide that", "As a 41 year old divorced man, ugly chicks are where its at. \n\nGo as ugly as you can stomach. You will be rewarded with love, affection, great food, and showered with their money. \n\nIt’s like dating with cheat codes.", "Yeah mine does too, though im not sure if im using the current version, but even if im not, idc", "no idea, autism maybe? the /s thing just baffles me. if you don't use it, the worst case scenario is that someone thinks you're serious or said the wrong (unpopular) opinion, and... downvotes you. i guess karma is important enough for people to /s even the most obvious jokes", "Thank you for a job well done.", "Didn't change for me for a while, but today, the dislikes are gone :-(", "“You guys, my wife is the hottest woman in the world…”\n\n[Blinks “T-O-R-T-U-R-E” in Morse code]", "I see the argument that since it is \"designed\" to endless scroll, it will work. But for me since I'm looking for specific content, I found myself almost leaving immediately, because I couldn't be distracted by so many thumbnails on the redesign.\n\nOn old, it's all pops up in front of me and I go \"Oh yeah, I forgot I subscribed to that subreddit. Good thing I saw that tiny thumbnail at a glance, otherwise I would have just gone straight to the one I needed info from.\"\n\nI don't go to reddit because I am bored, but then I get roped in. Infinite scroll seems to work better for people who are bored.\n\nI know a lot of people say \"I was bored and decided to browse reddit\" but I typically hear people follow that up with \"So I went to the __________ subreddit.\" \n\nIt's a bit different from other sites that endless scroll in that regard. People get bored, then seek specific subjects.", "oh dang i've been using the old reddit layout forever, totally forgot the new/timeline looking one exists", "Time to boycott another integral website.", "Ehh videos with high view counts and comment but low likes will be the new standouts.", "Yeah, it's very apparent when videos do this. All the comments are excruciatingly sweet and positive, and nobody is joking or saying anything real. It's disgusting and so transparent", "pretty sure in Jan that will no longer work as the API is being changed by then.", "It doesn't feel so bad when they shoot you down, right?", "For the main/subreddit view, I actually don't mind new reddit, with adblock, in classic mode. It's a little annoying on desktop to go into a post and have it limited to half my screen width, though.\n\nAlso, the default Cards view sucks ass.", "I think theyre slowly rolling out the ~~feature~~ change", "> where the fuck were they when Reddit did it years ago?\n\nReddit still has positive/negative scores and that upvote percentage thing on submissions. The info lost in Reddit's case was minimal and not intended to be available in the first place. This is an intentional dick move on Youtube's part, that hides important information about a video. Info that has always been accessible, and frequently useful to users. Of course people are pissed.\n\n(Also, I don't see how whatever Reddit did years ago is particularly relevant to the point, but since you asked.)", "Brigading is a way overhyped problem. But maybe rate limit dislikes (and likes) originating from high volume external links?", "Everyone always blames the developers and designers as if they had final say in anything. When you work for something you have your boss that says \"You need to do X\", and you do X, no matter how bad you know it is. I can guarantee you that a bunch of 20 somethings that are UI devs and designers at Reddit were not the ones to come up with what the redesign looks like, and convince management to put it into action. That's the opposite of reality.", "I just don't understand why they didn't disable the ratings entirely? That's been an option for every uploader the entire time.", "So..... is Youtube still not turning any profit for Alphabet?", "I hate this. im sure someone will have an extension that shows dislikes very soon.", "You can't be this dumb.", "Lmao everything has to be about the government huh?", "Yeah I didn't play with it much beyond the cards view, but the non-cards version is a slick pass over classic. I just really like the simplicity and flexibility of the old/html lookin' reddit layout. has worked well forever.", "Everyone reading this should share as much as possible to get the word out there. This is huge!", "AD block still works which likely has push back from corporate interests 1000x stronger\n\nEdit, Lmao at the super scientists below", "I wonder if youtube would ever bother \"preventing\" this because the truth is, the corporate overlords were just made that people could see the huge thumbs down count on their movie trailer or whatever.\n\nIf the general public can't see it unless they go out of their way, it would fly under the radar for the most part.\n\nI doubt Sony's going to tell someone to tell youtube about an extension looking at the dislike data still.", "I'm not German but I went to Germany once, so just declaring that to be on the safe side.", "Classic /r/FiftyFifty...", "Not long: Developers: If you’re using the YouTube API for dislikes, you will no longer have access to public dislike data beginning on December 13th.\n\nhttps://support.google.com/youtube/thread/134791097/update-to-youtube-dislike-counts?hl=en", ">If a bunch of other people dislike a video, you shouldn't watch it\n\nExcept that isn't at all the point. I've watched my fair share of videos that had a lot of dislikes, but it's relevant info to me as a consumer of videos. If I'm watching a how to and I see the dislike ratio is high, I know \"maybe I need to watch other videos as well to see if this was bad advice\", or check the comments to see if someone was wrong, unsafe, etc. I don't think even \"unsuccessful creators\" want this (I mean who's review bombing small channels?), this is more to benefit companies who don't like their videos getting bad feedback (movie trailers, news programs, late night comedy crap).", "Since 2017ish", "Adblock is completely different; this is getting the info from a YouTube API that hasn't been deprecated.", "It's already starting\n\n. ..\n\nStuff they implement and change in the new UI doesn't get through to the old UI, I am missing more features as the days go by", "You mean the company which awarded its own ceo a free speech award?", "Yeah. But collectively making \"like\" the new dislike would mean less \"likes\" in general. Also investors would certainly not think \"likes\" are dislikes, and all this bs is really to protect investors from dislike bombs on trailers and other corporate material.", "[It's the end line of Syndrome's final monolog](https://youtu.be/GYmHYQPaHaw)", "\"feature\"", "> Like if someone dies their Facebook would just be deleted, right?\n\nActually, no - my experience has been that it's really easy to keep it running (even as a memorial page) and have access to everything on it after the owner passes. I'm pretty sure the ability to delete it exists, but it's definitely not guaranteed in any way.", "Weird place for a Salinger quote, so I'm guessing from context you're talking about the Laughing Man from Ghost in the Shell.", "It's also a scammer's wet dream.\n\nPicture someone looking for a tutorial:\n\n\"To install Microsoft word you want to install the software from the hyperlink below, when you have the program downloaded, click run and \"ok\" on any firewall popup, the program will now install\"\n\n...and now they've just installed ransomware.\n\nFrom this point on pretty much any tutorial that involves a hyperlink cannot be trusted.", "~~Not necessarily, we're being told the dislike button still functions, the count is just only visible on the back end. Idk much about coding or anything, but an extension that just accesses that data would probably be enough.~~\n\nE: I'm wrong, the person below explains why, also nobody knows what downvotes are actually for these days", "My fucking word…THIS! This is what makes the world feel like it’s getting shittier! Fuck the studies , fuck all the political shit, offend people, communicate", "this comment is so strangely specific.\n\n>~~Someone pointed out that~~ this will make is harder to trust videos ~~showing you how to repair cars~~.", "People will die.", "I think soon youtube is gonna remove the ability to get the dislike data from their API so I'll give this plugin a month until it stops working. It's the reason why some people are still seeing the dislike count and some don't, the data is still there it's just slowly being phased out as CDNs and other servers are updating with the never youtube version. When they finish with that they'll remove it completely or hide it for channel owners only. There is a possibility for channel owners to send the dislike data to this or a similar plugin but i highly doubt it would see high usage or it might be even put in the youtube TOS under some weird ass rule that you are not allowed to give out private information to a third party. And sadly youtubers will backdown except for those that have high external revenue streams.", "The dislike data is retrieved through Youtube’s own api, so all they have to do is disable it. Which is what they are doing in December.", "Yep, had mine still up for a while but it's gone now", "RIP", "What was removed? That video has 👍10M 👎🏼 227K on my screen right now.", "It's going the route of digg 2.0 when they removed the down vote button. YouTube is finished.", "Lol what lesson? That people bitch about change and then go on to accept it and still use their websites and programs?", "It seems like Youtube wants to be the one that gets to say whether information in a video is bad or not, rather than its users", "We live in a country ran by people who need participation trophies handed out so the losers won't feel bad here in the US. So does Youtube removing the dislike surprise you at this point? For me it's no surprise.", "Yee", "[\"New\" reddit.](https://preview.redd.it/sy2xlohwgm081.png?width=932&format=png&auto=webp&s=894ad4f53640a06c7f2627d74cee81f402890841)", "\"The radical left\"? Who is that?\n\nIt's interesting that conservatives created and embraced the term \"alt right\" and you use it. Is the radical left an actual group as well?", "I had mine too till today. They’ll get you soon enough.", "Actually, besides music and technical youtube, one must admit the rest is junk", "Yes, you should never check out other sources. The like/dislike feature reigned supreme in indicating credibility amongst our holy internet.\n\nEdit: See you all in a couple of weeks whenever you don't care anymore :D", "> Except that isn't at all the point.\n\nBut it's the point rehashed over and over here. You even just did it. If you're researching something and the dislikes are high, you know to keep looking...but if you're researching something and you stop at one source you're probably not doing it right anyway. If you're watching something for entertainment, which is 90% of youtube's demographic, the like/dislike shouldn't play into your opinion of the piece.\n\nReddit and facebook and other platforms all constantly vote-brigade things. If the right person says \"this is bad\", whether or not it is no longer matters. People are eager to jump on the bandwagon. Look at [the dinosaur kid](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3pxwua/kid_with_22_subscribers_makes_epic_dinosaur/) that hit a few years back. Reddit thought it was cute, flooded the kid's with subs and views...for eight days. He still makes videos, no one reddit cares, they moved on to the next bandwagon...why? Because they're not that good despite the video in the link having a HUGE like/dislike disparity. (I will note that I am subscribed to the kid and watch his videos because I think it's important to support kids when they go on these adventures...it's an example of the harm bandwagon brigading can do)\n\nThe dislike button should stay there. It's certainly a useful metric. It's just that it shouldn't stay there because the mob is usually right.", "digital version of Lumiere Brothers.", "Apparently it's pretty radical to hate the wage slave corporate hellscape we all live in here and want people to have a chance to actually thrive instead of living a subsistence lifestyle. Capitalism definitely has it's benefits but what we're currently living under is unsustainable indefinitely and the cracks are definitely beginning to show.", ">Luckily the main people I follow also have a Patreon page or other ways to support them. I'm going to cancel my YouTube Premium and find a way to transition away from YouTube\n\nCya when you get back.", "I think Spotify is about to take over YouTube. It has its own paid user base, so it's already generating revenue. Those of us who don't pay for it are used to the ads already. And more and more content creators are given the opportunity to broadcast video content on it now. \n\nIt's not without its hiccups, but for a platform within its first year of video broadcasting (or maybe a little over a year) it's doing pretty well!\n\nHere's hoping they make it creator friendly.", "RiP to Kelsey @74Gear on Youtube. He was in there for a good while.", "No idea, I thought it was pretentious nonsense in 2001 because there was no context. It's beyond prophetic I would love for Kojima to talk about this", "Yeah the amount of genuine discussion on this site has plummeted. It's just echo chambers now.", "Yes, thank you, that bar was the best for such content, now there's no reference point.", ">There's battle lines being drawn;\nand nobody's right, if everybody's wrong.\n\n-Buffalo Springfield. For What It's Worth.", "Biden is so disliked he won the election.", "wtf this is genius! now I can tell if videos are misleading again!", "Just another change that will help some upstart company steal youtube's business at some point in the future.", "The problem is they are removing that call from the API in December. So you won't be able to pull the dislike count at all after that point. This means someone would have to create a database to store all user votes for all videos so that the plugin could later display that information. It's only feasible for Google to do because they already have the infrastructure to make it happen. It would be massive and expensive, with the rate that youtube grows and I can't see any dev willing to build and pay the server costs.", "If you ever try to look up tutorial and it's someone just being an asshole dislikes were always a good indication.", "some ppl should stay in r/conservative \n\n\n\nohhhh wait you guys also don't have downvotes at least you guys can sympathize with what youtube is doing but without the smell of desperation.", "Usually when the like-dislike is disabled, it means the uploader is in deep shit and is trying to hide the public's anger.\n\nBut if the dislike count is hidden from everyone, then that's no longer a problem.", "This is a terrible decision for a variety of reasons.\r \n\r \n1. Dislikes are a great way to signal quality or lack thereof, so if you are looking for a good tutorial or instruction video where the speaker gives clear and helpful instructions, likes and dislikes allow you to easily sort through videos relating to what you are trying to find. Removing dislikes makes this process much more difficult and time consuming.\r \n\r \n2. Apart from the inconvenience (which is honestly enormous when you consider that billions of people use the site for such purposes every single day), it also means that extremists who only care about promoting their ideology will be given an even bigger advantage over moderates now as, unlike those actually taking the time to verify the quality of the video,they will be able to like and comment on videos that appear to support their stance at a far faster rate ensuring that partisan and extreme content which studies have already shown increase both positive and negative engagement (the only negative form of engagement after this policy is implemented being comments which also boost the amount of views a video gets as the number of comments is one of the statistics YouTubes systems take into account when figuring out which videos to promote) becomes far more popular and will contribute to increased political polarization and the acceleration of the political binary in nations where YouTube is used to any significant extent.\r \n\r \n3. The fact that a content creator can delete comments they don't like means that those who don't have the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction now lose not only the ability to look at the like / dislike bar and see if something fishy is going on but now their ability to find a comment which debunks the lies within the video are also far more difficult (even impossible if the content creator is determined enough) to find. This will lead to the spread of disinformation and clickbait and ultimately make it so that provocative content is given even more of an advantage over actual quality content in terms of what gets consumed.\r \n\r \n4. Apart from the issues which are created by this decision, it also doesn't fix anything as the content creator would still be able to see the amount of dislikes if they go to look at their statistics and they can already turn off dislikes and comments as of now.", "God I love this part. \"The idea WAS, however, that among the flood of content, there are great creations waiting to be exposed. And for that to happen, the stuff that's not great has to fall by the side as quickly as possible.\"\n\nThe change compromises the ability of good content to rise to the top because it's harder to distinguish it at a glance from bad content. It's a horrible design choice.", "Niche hobbies flourish on youtube. Cooking videos are great, too. If you are into that.", "Meh, YouTube did need to jumpstart their competitors. This reminds me of people arguing over VHS and beta. God speed youtube! :D", "Something Ive noticed so far. My account which has youtube premium still sees dislikes, but my usual accounts don’t. Same goes for signing out completely, still able to see them. Not sure if they’re just not at that stage yet or if they’ve really made it into a paid feature.", "I don't understand the point. They also could have just disabled the rating system but that wasn't enough. Videos with a disabled comment section get less views, they're not going to do that.", "How much stupid shit is there in google's search results that, when you click on it, is just clickbait gaming google's search algorithm and has 5 likes and 600 dislikes because it's barely related to the content? Happens to me a lot when I'm trying to find solutions to specific problems. Now I won't know immediately if it's a bad video or just one that hasn't been seen much.", "That whole blog post is a helluva good read", "Did not know they had confirmed they would take that step.", "I'm sick to the stomach of videos showing you how to connect a phone camera to a USB cable. I was enquiring into the protocols used, because I wanted to convert a phone camera into a webcam and it's not just connecting 4 wires to random contacts. It's very dangerous and now, for someone who is not an expert, it's impossible to know it's fake.", "YouTube is only hiding the dislike count, not the dislike button. You can still dislike videos even without the plugin, but you can't see how many dislikes videos have (unless it's your own video). It's incredibly stupid.\n\nEdited for clarity.", "They need to add the Don't be Evil clause back to their CoC", "They probably know people click off videos when they see a high dislike count. They want to increase time watched by forcing you to watch videos and evaluate them yourself.", "They're currently getting the data for the dislikes from the YouTube API. That API will change in a few weeks and then this plug-in will stop working.", "I feel bad for all the future DIYers who are about to burn their houses down because they followed the wrong tutorial on YouTube and couldn't see the dislikes", "A like/dislike timeline would actually be really useful for out of date information and videos too, you'd be able tell if things are obsolete but were once correct (I'm thinking software dev with different versions would be nice utilization). Would also provide a more clear insight of lingering popularity besides how recent comments are.", "I mean yes, what you just said is very radically left compared to the majority of people or just Americans believe.\n\nAnd in case it needs to be said, this isn’t an insult, just an observation on the previous person’s question on the “radical left”", "There is some kinda of cosmic irony that you post a YouTube video in a thread trashing YouTube.", "As someone who remembers Reddit 7 years ago, I assure you it was a MASSIVELY unpopular decision but there was a lack of good alternatives to Reddit, thus nothing could really be done about it. Same thing will likely happen with YouTube.", "Will redditors ever stop seeing everything through the lens of vidya? Jesus christ", "I mean go look at the dislikes on any govornment video", "Yes why listen to opinions about YouTube from.. the guy who created YouTube. /s", "Why are 436 idiots upvoting this as if the controversial flag wouldn't allow you to differentiate between the two examples you're whining about?", "The stupidest thing about this is that they give the reasoning that it's to protect the mental health of the creators, but the uploader can still see how many dislikes the video has, it's just hidden from everyone else", "\"Everything woke turns to shit\"\n\n& FJB", "Remember when Google's motto was 'don't be evil', a fairly low bar, but pretty universally agreed on. Now it's 'do the right thing' well guess what every giant evil corporation or villian thinks they're doing... the right thing. If you wrote it, it'd be called cheesy and unrealistic.", "Yeah this was a brain dead decision from youtube. The only way to even remotely get around it is to spam bad videos with going to need a “like this comment if you think this was a bad tutorial.”\n\nThen if that comment has enough likes, you know to avoid, but then the author can just remove comments.", "I already knew this was a bad thing, but it kind of hit me today as a live example of it. I'm looking at random videos regarding dog training, and there aren't any dislikes anymore... so how do you know if Joe Schmo is full of shit when they tell you that you're not hurting your small dog by pulling up on its leash and lifting it off the ground by the leash? I mean that should be obvious to people... but suppose it's something that isn't obvious and sounds completely plausible. Suppose it's someone claiming that avocado is healthy for your dog. No dislike bar to get an immediate read of the bullshit meter.", "That doesn't really standout unless you are already aware of view to like to comment ratios and those are calculated and displayed for you in an actionable way.", "Thank you for your comment, this doesn't only apply to cars and does apply to about everything.", "Just need to buy a few thousand clicks from a click farm and boom, you're in the popular/recommended section. This whole thing is a farce.", "Likes and dislikes are overrated. And probably bad too, just look at Reddit for example. Creators wouldn't bitch if it was sure to make their revenue bigger getting rid of dislikes. Fight me", "Likes and dislikes are overrated. And probably bad too, just look at Reddit for example. Creators wouldn't bitch if it was sure to make their revenue bigger getting rid of dislikes. Fight me", "Yeah I guess I’ll have to make an alt account to comment on stupid YouTube tutorials which give terrible advice, because we can no longer see downvotes.\n\nYouTube just made browsing through any sort of instructional video a pain in the ass.", "Why are you under the assumption the they're looking for a solution to this problem? The problem they're looking for a solution to is some big companies that use YouTube only as billboard (instead of as a platform for content creation), like studios and music artists, complaining about dislikes on their trailers or music videos and so on. This change benefits only them.\n\nNot mention YouTube's own garbage like rewind.", "Likes and dislikes are overrated. And probably bad too, just look at Reddit for example. Creators wouldn't bitch if it was sure to make their revenue bigger getting rid of dislikes. Fight me", "Likes and dislikes are overrated. And probably bad too, just look at Reddit for example. Creators wouldn't bitch if it was sure to make their revenue bigger getting rid of dislikes. Fight me", "That would be everyone wishing death on anyone who even remotely aligns with the republican party. Don't get me wrong, the right definitely has its fair share of radicals, but its pretty immature to act like there's absolutely zero possibility that there are left aligned radicals.\n\nHappens on reddit every day, and not seldom downvoted hidden comments either; the top comments in some of the more recent threads are just wishing death on anyone who isn't vaccinated. As if holding a belief, regardless of how stupid or uninformed it is, should warrant death. Or during the capital siege there were tons of threads calling for the complete purge of the republican party and its supporters.\n\nIt's a very dangerous path to think that only the right can be radicalized; the people doing the radicalization are working both sides of the aisle simultaneously against eachother.", "Being back some iWave demonstration videos.", "Yeah it helps cut down on a lot of people just after clicks for ads", "It is just not good. Less information is almost always worse.", "There is also this new weird trend of fake life hacks. That range from harmless and dumb, to full on dangerous. I saw a youtube short the other day that was a life hack for charging a phone, by literally cutting an extension cord in half, separating the wires and placing them in the phone charge port. Average person knows that this doesn't work. But all it takes is kid to come home from school after leaving his charger somewhere to make a really dumb mistake. \n\nSadly its always stuff that is marketed to children. Go on youtube right now and search for free v bucks.", "Yet the right embraces the alt right moniker, while you make shit up for the left. Interesting.", "Slowly rolling out the mistake", "Thanks for that info", "I don't understand removal of dislikes. Everything aside their recommendation algorithm will be screwed up. This is bad for them. They are removing a very useful way of collecting data from their viewers.", "The \"right thing\" is a matter of perspective. Nowadays, the right thing is exploitation for profit.", "And here I am, thinking, \"Jesus, the first Youtube video was in 2005? That wasn't so long ago.\"\n\nSixteen years ago. I still feel like I can throw a rock and hit it.", "I feel we will see mass disliking replaced with more mass flagging. Which is actually a problem because it has severe consequences for channels.", "Old.reddit and Baconreader for mobile", "Anyone have a good name for a YouTube competitor? I have some code, servers, and cash now....", "I'm OOTL, but when was the dislike removal implemented? I still see them on my phone app and PC. Or was it announced that they will remove it soon?\n\nEither way, removing it is just stupid.", "Why am i still able to see the dislike count? I thought this happened already?", "White House, Gilette, MSM vids that are obvious spin.... etc. Alphabet Inc has been in the social engineering game for a while now. Hell, even Reddit, to some extent.", "People were big mad when Reddit removed the downvotes. They just went ahead with it anyway", "If everyone is super, nobody is super.", "I could water that most people don't watch YouTube with others. Hard to know either way, I guess.", "I've seen tutorials and repair guides with hundreds of thousands of views which are total scams or a waste of time.", "Old news.", "What you don't like the content sitting squarely in the center of your computer screen with all that white space on the side?\n\nOh wait it's grey and if you scroll down it's no longer centered.", ">wishing death on anyone who isn't vaccinated. As if holding a belief, regardless of how stupid or uninformed it is, should warrant death.\n\nWe don't wish death on them. We anticipate it, because covid is dangerous.\n\n\"Holding a belief\" has been entirely sufficient for the biggest wars in human history.", "The thing is noone even bothers to dislike anymore. What's even the point if noone will see it? Just to midly spite the uploader who probably won't even see it? I checked a few videos with this extension and the dislike counts are next to none.", "In case anyone is unaware, this is important because it's also Jawed Karim- the co-founder of YouTube.", "reddit used to show the numbers of votes back in the day too and it was a big fuss when they got rid of it. But it really didn't do shit to their traffic", "If they didn't want to go dig in the comments I'm not sure what makes you think they are going to do a full scale search for multiple different sources \n\nJust checking the like/dislike ratio is enough in almost every case", "😂 that’s fair enough", "They won't get any more out of me. I opened a video, immediately looked at the like/dislike ratio, saw that it's missing, and then closed the tab because I'm not going to waste time watching something that could be a waste of time. There's no way to get quick feedback of previous viewers. It'd be interesting to see if their ad revenue takes a small dive with this change. They're probably watching it closely.\n\nSeems like this is the best moment for a new video hosting website to attempt to dethrone youtube. It won't be easy, but it's the best time to try.", "Notice how in about 2019 all major news outlets removed their comment sections? Discourse is a challenge to the narrative that they are trying to convey. Youtube removing the dislike button is nothing new to them. They have been manipulating the actual dislike counts for about a year. There are documented incidences where a vid would have 9k dislikes and an hour later the number be half that.\n\n[Have a read. Back in From April.](https://www.extremelyamerican.com/post/youtube-google-in-the-dirty-business-of-manipulating-likes-dislikes)\n\n(Please disregard the hyperbolic tone of the article and concentrate on the assertions the article is making)\n\n\"To add some perspective to the comments made above, consider the news confirming that YouTube deleted 2.5 million ‘Dislikes’ from Biden’s White House videos in one giant purge (Epoch Times – Petr Svab; April 2, 2021) The purge comes on the heels of reports indicating that YouTube is seriously considering a policy that would remove visible dislike counts altogether. However, true to YouTube’s deceitful and manipulative ways, the company decided to “selectively” remove millions of dislikes...\"", "So you’re saying there’s an up side…", "A whole lot of people took Reagan a little too seriously.", "Japan has been called lost for decades. Yet they're healthy, safe, replete with modern technology and modern infrastructure, still one of the world's biggest economies and a cultural power.\n\nWe should all be so lost.", "I mean, it sort of shows dislikes in that it can go in to the negative \"points\" which I always assumed meant the downvotes were overriding the upvotes, no?", "Almost sounds like they should stop counting dislikes as engagement.", "I don't bother with video tutorials, they're almost always wrong or outdated, much prefer niche forums with step-by-step text tutorials that I can refer back to while doing whatever it is, be it car, computer, or plant", "League removed all chat cuz people these days are snowflakes. YouTube/Google have an agenda to push (government good, obey leaders, only pay attention to what comes from “reliable sources.”) Anything that goes against their narrative has to be silenced or labeled as “misinformation.” Videos of Biden and videos made my big pharma had insane like to dislike ratios. They couldn’t let people click on a video of Biden or a video about vaccine mandates see the dislike ratio cuz then they might start to question the intentions of their masters. I’ll get downvoted for saying this but there’s some truth to what I’m saying.", "YouTube has OFFICIALLY turned into the hooker that don't care about the stank, as long as the cash keeps flowing. I say let them all burn in their own greed.\n\nWakala.", "It makes you think about philosophy, technology and geopolitics in a comfortable environment and thats very valuable for all kids/teenagers who were playing it growing up.", "Talk soon!", "Reagan: \"Run that shit home boy.\"", "As long as comments are left on... at least we have that?", "Baconreader is like 99% of my reddit time.", "It's called disrespectful design, which is a term you will hopefully start hearing more and more as people begin pushing back on it, and not just on reddit.\n\nHere's a decent breakdown of some issues but it's by no means exhaustive\n\nhttps://ognjen.io/reddits-disrespectful-design/\n\nIn general the main issue with it is that it's very manipulative in a lot small ways. For example, once the various methods of sorting posts on a subreddit (Best, Hot, Top, etc) were aligned on the top and visible at once. Now they're hidden in a drop-down menu, requiring two clicks instead of one which is annoying but that's not the main issue.\n\nYou have to ask yourself why they would do that, even if it seems like a miniscule, non-problematic change at first glance.\n\nThe answer is because when you hide the other options, newer users are less likely* to change the sort. Out of sight, out of mind. This leads to more and more users just browsing subs organized by \"Best\" which effectively just means \"least controversial\" or \"the things Reddit's algorithm prefers you look at\". That has a snowball effect on content that gets seen and upvoted on the site overall.\n\nAgain, that's just an example.\n\nThere's also just a lot more images and other nonsense. Avatars and gifs were never part of Reddit. It was always about the content, never about individual users, and avatars shift away from that. Gifs, well it's a personal taste thing, but gifs belong on discord. Reddit was always about discussion, i.e. use your words not reaction gifs.\n\nConversely, with regards to images, one of the things Reddit did have were subreddit styles. Granted these sort-of remain in the redesign but in a very boring way, and of course most mobile users don't see them at all, but in general the redesign makes the site more uniform and therefore more boring. This is just standard web 2.0 homogenization, turning the internet that used to be a canvas for people to be creative with into a boring by-the-numbers series of near identical platforms.\n\nEdit: didn't notice autocorrect being a bitch", "That's Facebook. I opened the picture and said Facebook. I've been on RiF for so long I can't remember the last time I opened regular Reddit.", "Great, now I’d love to see one that does it to Reddit", "Ah yes, the good old RT, russian propaganda paper. You can't be serious? You really think this is just because \"Biden got his feelings hurt\" for something he probably doesn't even care about. Dude is so old, probably doesn't give two shits what's on youtube or what the ratio is.\n\nFun fact: The vast majority of people do not like/dislike videos to begin with. \n\nIt literally means nothing when any political motivated video gets dislike ratio'd to hell. Because it's obvious for the vast majority that it is being brigaded by people with an agenda. People on both sides are petty as fuck. I find it hilarious that people try to talk about how the ratio proves Biden didn't get the votes needed to win. Yeah, your 3K dislikes really equals 3 million actual votes. LOL.", "someone just needs to make a Newtube with likes and dislikes. bam. bajillion dollars.", "No, I understand that. It may be here because we don't really have a left wing party, just a far right and a center left, bordering on center right party, both of which advocate for the corporate status quo. It's just that the overton window has shifted so far to the right that the Democratic party appears \"left\" by sheer contrast. Compared to the majority of democratic western nations though we are definitely not radically left.\n\nEdit: your downvotes won't change what I said. I am not saying \"both parties are the same\". They definitely aren't. But we don't have a far left party in this country. Calling the Democratic party a far left party is a hilarious joke. Paying lip service to something and actively doing the opposite, or just plain doing nothing is not advocating for leftist ideals.", "reddit did it a long time ago", "That sounds like something Electroboom would do.", "Seems the intervening years were helpful to him, he's much more, um... eloquent.", "Just so long as Vanced still works...", "Wait until we see this on the front page tomorrow lol", "There is a radical left and a radical right. Extremism comes from both sides and bubbles are forming left and right for basically every opinion possible. \n\nNot a hard concept to understand.", "Likes will always be there dislikes is being removed. For me right now it's a 50/50, some videos have just like some don't.", "As a narcissistic prick, you can keep em\n\nI'll take my empty-headed hot girls any day", "Firefox has adblock btw", "I still see the dislike button as well as the count.", "Because it looks sus to disable ratings on your own content", "Nope. The uploader is Jawed Karim, co-founder of YouTube. He’s been hacked before but he’s had control over the account for a couple years at least. The description wasn’t written by a hacker.", "Has it been implemented yet? I still see them", "> This just enables misinformation, BS, clickbaiting, and other similar non-valuable content to rise to the top.\n\nI just saw a paid advertisement from some clown claiming to have proof that there were a series of ancient kings that lived over 200,000 years. Yes. An ad. On Youtube. This is what's paying the bills?\n\nYoutube is toast.\n\nWhat else is there? Odysee?", "Honestly any helpful videos. Programming tutorials, disinformation, virus spreading etc", "Dec 13th the public loses all ability to access the dislike api", "I don't get it, I can still see the dislike count on video? For example this one has 227k dislikes. Is the change not in effect yet?", "Sponsorblock has more than enough users already tagging shit and using the plugin, wouldn't be hard to add dislike functionality and it can completely hide the video", "Gilette?", "What the hell?\n\n>Talk about accumulating data to act as a central record always makes me think of\n\n\"the laughing man,\" was the original ending of your comment. I know there are other works tray l that reference \"the laughing man\" and \"the man who laughs,\" but seeing \"data\", \"central record\" (the \"copy\" that becomes the original after the original is gone... But was there ever actually an original to begin with?) and \"The Laughing Man\" made me think of GITS. I've never actually read the Salinger short story.\n\nActually, your ninja edit fits the GITS Laughing Man motif perfectly\n\nEdit oh there's the asterisk", "He really thought he had the “read the room” take, too", "Sure, but is there a number of bad moves they can make to duck up YouTube? YouTube's been \"getting worse\" for more of it's lifetime than \"getting better\" and it's not really showing any signs of slowing down and there aren't really any competitors. \n\nHow shitty does YouTube have to be before someone's willing to foot the bill for a service that's essentially more a of a money sink public utility at this point, with the only way to make money out of it to do horrible things like what YouTube does? \n\nHonestly this sounds like a bizarre idea, but until we have some kind of publicly funded sites for video sharing, social media, etc, then it's always going to be a case of shitty companies doing shitty things with our shitposts. \n\nWe need a place to communicate and share stuff that isn't moderated by some company who needs to make a buck, where nobody's data is harvested to be inferred up on a plate to advertisers or whoever, and ironically also with protection from government snooping that companies already facilitate.", "Source.", "You think pointing that out adds any more value than what I said?", "https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFsQleAWXsj_4yDeebiIADdH5FMayBiJo", "Have been doing so for lets see... when did Youtube introduce ads again? 2006? Yea since then. 15 years of blocking their ads and it's going to continue.", "Not that huge. It's using YouTube's api to get the dislikes. That api endpoint will be removed in a few weeks and the plugin will stop working.", "I still see the dislike button (with a count) on the Android YouTube app", "They made an ad that had nothing to do with razors and pretty much was just misandrist garbage. Got downvoted into oblivion (like 20k likes and half a million dislikes) and made plenty of men say they would never buy their products again.", "I don't know how but I still have the Dislike button.", "And I’m the narcissist prick? \n\nDid you graduate high school?\n\nEDIT - I read your comment wrong. I’m too high to be internetting right now. I see now that you recognize that you are indeed a narcissistic prick and I think you’re wonderful.", "They roll all updates out in batches. Changes to most sites aren't just thrown at all users at once, they incremental transition the user base to the new version.", "It's not just about that, it's about the wording", "Small creators don't bring YouTube Adbux. They don't care about small creators.", "Even the other [copy cat video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfsl8_o4VKc)?", "Youtube makes a profit, a massive one at that. But indirectly: you're data is what they want. People focus to much on raw numbers.", "Posts and comments both had the same feature, but the comments' vote counts were only available if you used something like Reddit Enhancement Suite, which is why you wouldn't see that on the Reddit 101 thread.", "Unfortunately, no it won’t if they change the API to make that information no longer public. It literally won’t be accessible.", "I wonder if the absolute failure of that Coca Cola gaming ad was the straw that broke the camel's back. The timing seems about right.", "The funnest thing to me about removing all chat in games is that a vast majority of toxicity i see in gaming is from YOUR team not the enemy team lmao. Its far more common to have salty teammates then an enemy mad you are winning to hard.", "On the flip side, places like Voat will ever been non-vile if us normies avoid it because of its low moderation policies (which is what makes it attractive to the fringe anyhow). So you're gonna have to ignore the shitty people or learn to love reddit moderation.", "They are, and it seems to be system/ip based, not location. My PC no longer has dislikes, my laptop still does. Same house, same modem, different router.", "Oh absolutely. I’m not sure what they thought they were gonna fix by doing that.", "go for the comment that says \"likes and deslikes here\"", "I'm not arguing for them, just saying that the ones trying to hide it can disable comments.", "He is calling himself the prick, dude", "Hell instagram releases features that I only have on one of my accounts and not the other", "This is really saddening. :(", "Sometimes I respond to something even if I do interpret it as sarcastic, because you really cannot tell on the internet. \n \nAs for why you cannot tell on the internet: remember that we all come from vastly different backgrounds, some of us different cultures and languages. It’s really the beauty of this platform, even if it’s not perfect.", "~~That script will be dead come mid-December, when YouTube is removing dislikes from the API.~~\n\nThat script will die whenever YouTube finally gets rid of the `averageRating` variable in the API, which seems to be never considering it's been up for over a decade after its deprecation.", "Something happened between 2005 and 2015. Whitespace used to be the cardinal sin, and suddenly it became the driving ethos.", "Oh my God.", "youtube comment section will have it's usage besides the timestamp here.\n\nif you disliked the video all you have to do is comment 'dislike' in the comment section.\n\nnow people can tell if the video has high dislike, if all they see in comment section is 'dislike' x 9000", "Adblock is removing something from your page, this is adding it. Youtube just has to stop providing the information thats being added and thats it, stopping adblock is an entirely different problem.", "Read the actual thread. It doesn't rely on API.", "Sorry but I feel like you are just rambling because you are trying to justify the things that have happened to the site over 15+ years. \n\nYoutube pre-google was hemorrhaging money, because initially they had no solid way to monetize the platform to keep up with its' growth at the time. It was all VC money until Google stepped in. As the adsense/adwords platform grew, it grew with youtube. It only existed for a year or 2 before youtube came into existence, so it wasn't some juggernaut like it is now. It takes an insane amount of money to run something like youtube so they've obviously changed the way the monetized the platform to keep up. \n\nYoutube premium is just them jumping into the subscription model, which literally every company is doing now. They make way more from you paying directly per month, than they do from charging companies to show you the ads. You can't watch as many ads in a month as what they make from charging you directly. Even if you watched all ads only. Most are like a couple bucks max for 1000 views, unless it's extremely competitive. A little more if someone actually clicks on the ad.\n\nThe thing to remember is that we live in a capitalistic society, so the ultimate goal is always profit. That's always the end game no matter what. If you look at the history of TV, you'll see lots of parallels. TV used to have no ads. Do you think the same thing applies? It was all about showing you so many ads that you now subscribe monthly to specific services and they planed that out in the 50s? Or was it just an evolution with the times as user expectations and behaviors changed?\n\nIf you run adblock in the browser, you'll rarely see ads on youtube already. Even without paying for premium. While they could take more and more features away, then all it does is making people leave for other options or create other options to get around the problems. YT Vanced, for android, for example. Obviously ads add up when you look at the sheer volume, but when looking at just a single user, you get more profit from the paying user than the free user watching ads. But you definitely want to keep the free users watching as many ads as you can.", "And also quite a few post that is people who was convinced by the subreddit to vaccinate. The Vibe i have gotten from hermancainaward is not really celebration, just frustrated fatigue. Top comments and post does not really say “haha look at this stupid fuck who died”, more like “just take the vaccine and live you stupid bastard”", "What I said is worthless, what you said is worthless, I don't see why you even bothered to comment on my obvious point about the crap that's on YouTube trending. \n\nI'm not trying to be edgy with my opinion, and I know it isn't novel. Basically no one would post anything on Reddit if it had to be original and thought provoking.", "The dislike counter. It just hasn't rolled out to you yet. Give it a bit, it'll happen to you.\n\nhttps://imgur.com/a/J0vBmPf", "Gotta admit, i disliked it just because....", "Just if you haven’t already, read 1984 and brave new world..", "This week YouTube will announce a new feature that erases descriptions on videos over a decade old. “This will help small channels not have to worry about keeping old descriptions up to date!”", "Can confirm it was a huge deal on Reddit at the time", "Urinary infection?", "Oh, shit, it's the ~~predictive~~ reactive math script. That's a good replacement, hell yeah.\n\nEDIT: Looked into the code, it uses a legacy variable to calculate the number of dislikes. So, it actually does rely on the API, but a variable that should have thrown out in 2009.", "Facebook does stuff with all the borders though, it fills the page. Not with anything I want, but the right has birthdays and contacts, the left has easy navigation links that I never use, etc. And the gap at the top is for Stories (that I also never use). It at least looks like a finished website.", "How long before Youtube starts removing all negative comments?", "What? Why the hell is there even a dislike button? Jesus I thought it was dumb, but not that dumb.", "I've never tried Baconreader, but Apollo for mobile is also great. I like it way more than scrolling on the computer.", "Haha, I’m so high right now I read it wrong. My bad!", "God, I know. Fucking CEOs and narcissists upset that there are people in this world who exist to call them out on their self-absorbed bullshit.", "\"_Without evil there can be no good so it must be good to be evil sometimes_\" \n\n– Satan, South Park, Bigger Longer & Uncut", "Youtube to eliminate \"toxic\" video descriptions", "Actually they don't. Mostly ones related to covid or vaccines or mandates get disliked to hell. The rest of the normal news videos have normal ratios. \n\nAnd they've mentioned this being a possible change in 2019, well before Covid or the election.", "https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-attack-mob-review-bomb-creator-insider\n\nSo covid was around in 2019?", "Not stupid. They know exactly what they’re doing.", "I asked a sculptor friend their favorite color and the reply was they don't have one.\n\nGot an odd look for asking why they hate color...", "Exactly. You get it. Everyone always gives evil a free pass by calling them stupid.", "Okay, Covid might be one example of bad dislike use but every other political video needs the dislike button to show viewers they’re not alone in their distain for something.", "So what is the reason he is alluding to that won’t be disclosed?", ">one of the ideas I've put forward is to have public moderation plugins or moderation teams w/ ratings and reviews, and allow individual users to select some set of moderators that affect the content that they see.\n\nThat's.. pretty damn clever. So like, curators. Gonna remember that one for if I ever get off my lazy ass and make a social networking site ;)", "I'm over here still angry Youtube got rid of 5 stars for 'upvote' 'downvote'.", "Dude, I'm fucking dying, that was the best response ever.", "Suicide is the leading cause of death in mem between 20 and 44\n\nNo, we should not all be so lost", "From the extension's website:\n\n> When API closes - the extension will use data from extension users to derive actual dislike count on a video", "We call that actually showing up to vote. Not this current crap where you pretend like disliking a video is the same as actually showing up.", "😜/😜😜😜/😉😜😉/😜/😉😉😜/😉😜😉/😉", "Creators can see it.", "That’s nice, but with respect, I don’t think it’ll supply any useful level of dislike data just based on the user base size. It will just be too dilute imo.", "> There are tons of original smart or personal points of view comments on here.\n\nWell I'm just going to keep posting my dumb, obvious shit anyway.\n\nI'm pretty sure those smart/personal points of view can turn into a circle jerk just as easily as my trash.", "Oh christ I didn’t even think of that. And they won’t have comments on the video if it’s terrible either.", "Ah no, sure it's already been on the front page, surely the editors wouldn't run it twice?", "It basically does though; it relies on related data that YouTube is likely to nix when they kill dislikes in the API.", "Even this program won’t work eventually. it’ll take someone grabbing the data of every video to make one that’s an indication, but by the day it’s usefulness will fade.", "\"ok syndrome\" kinda sounds like the name of a hipster band.", "It'll blow over. Like it always does.", "Oh you don't like the awful new design?\n\nWell all you had to do is ask.\n\nHere, have some more chat features.", "It's fine I'm high too and you made me giggle x", "Amen", "Google doesn't give a shit about how you like these changes because you aren't Google's customer. You're their product.", "Why not just sign up for their patreon and use an ad blocker??", "Personally i would be okay with the removal of the dislike button if they added a “avg time spent watching” or even a “hotspot” zone in the video maybe? \n\nIf i had to make a wild wild guess on the actual reason they removed it would be that it messes with the algorithm too much, in all honesty if two creators have beef one could just have all their fans dislike their video hurting the competitor not because the video is bad but just because they dont like the person due to conflict with their favorite creator", "Some sort of pressure from some sort of powerful people who don't like thumbs down? Your guess is as good as mine.\n\nHell, didn't YouTube's own rewind video get thumbed down to hell the other year? Maybe they have a bone to pick, haha.", "\"if everyone is special, noone is.\"\n\n- Abraham Lincoln", "I'm still able to Dislike , am I missing something?", "Yup I will stop going on reddit when that happens and honestly I will be glad about it. I've spent too much time on this site already.", "I've had playlists on autoplay where similar things have happened. No I don't want to watch a 30 minute fucking ad, I'm listening to music! Insane...\n\nYouTube Vanced for mobile (Android), ublock Origin ~~adblock plus~~ for browser.", "So many people worked on the style and design of their subreddit and the assholes just threw that all in the trash. They just hate their most dedicated users.", "Yeah but HowtoBasic has just become the No#1 source for all things", "Steam has not fixed it. They added rewards to reviews that you can earn points that you can spend if you are rewarded. It has gotten insanely worse since. Bf2042 is the worst reviewed game and because every bad review gets rewarded crazy and that encourages people to write a bad review. \n\nBf2042 didn't have a great launch but the reaction to it is extremely disproportionate. Its certainly not the worst game or launch steam has seen but here we are. Everyone is farming rewards.", "Yes but it is more nefarious in order to protect their sponsor companies, they don't care about the 'small creator' like they claimed. They could easily modify like options or other special features/limits for new/small creators but this is scorched earth specifically for the crappy idiotic big businesses that get torn apart for their idiotic, tone deaf, hypocrisy if not pure evil messaging.", "So... I still have the dislike count and button...", "I miss classic fiftyfifty", "Reddit ain't what it used to be...", "I agree, but you can just change the theme in settings without having to use old.reddit.com", "> Anyway, I think Google still suffers from this. There's no a single employee, it seems, capable of tackling their products from a UI/UX standpoint.\n\nI hate Apple, but I appreciate their consistency. I am a major Microsoft and Google user and I am always amazed at how different their web sites and software are quality are across different products.", "\"[You are my friend, you are special.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhuYv5cEvHY)\"\n\n- Fred Rogers", "That's why I watch Legit Street Cars.", "People in the industry already knew it was a problem back then. That’s why data mining was seen as the next big thing.", "YouTube lost control of conspiracies and misinformation propaganda 10 years ago", "Wow it works perfectly on Firefox, another reason it's the best browser.", "They will solve the problem by selling the right to post videos to corporations and govs eventually", "So from YouTube’s perspective how do they benefit from this? They wouldn’t do it if they didn’t have some strategy", "It’s time for another site to come up for there to be a choice.", "Is it possible that this is a grand plan to obfuscate what is, and isn't, gish gallop nonsense?", "I miss web 2.0. That actually turned old ugly pages into beautiful yet functional pages. Now it's like the concept of a webpage is gone entirely; a browser tab feels like either I am running an app or looking at a fancy powerpoint presentation.", "Really, really, really, really long trunks.", "I see a small but growing section of people on twitter that basically want America to adopt some version of Cuba's socialist/communist government and economic policies and want a violent revolution to get us there. I would imagine you could label those people as \"radical left\"", "Perhaps, but I'm not sure if this solution is flawless either. Just off the top of my head, one of Dream's videos didn't get downvote-bombed until he got into a controversy a few days after its release. Would the script be able to readjust for those later downvotes, or would it erroneously continue using the pre-bombing rate?\n\nI'm not much of a code person, so I apologize if my assumptions are completely nonsensical.", "I love it, Mr.Rogers was the best!", "I suspect it's our wonderful government driving the decision. [The White House channel](https://youtube.com/c/WhiteHouse) is getting trounced with dislikes.", "Brigading by subs is overhyped, yes. But I suspect astroturfing and suppression by commercial interests happens a lot.", "Why is this in quotes? Nowhere did anyone say \"alluding\", what are you eluding to exactly?", "Ty", "They mean “Do the right thing [for our investors]”", "Right?! “Don’t be evil.” It’s such a simple motto, and they couldn’t even follow it, so they had to change it lol.", "I use a similar saying at work when someone on my team is struggling with setting priorities: “if everything is important, then nothing is”.", "Well it still feeds into the algorithms that determine what you and others see.\n\nThe functionality is supposedly the same, but now less transparent.", "For the algorithm.", "Computer tutorial videos are going to become pure cancer. There are so many videos already that offer to fix common computer issues, but really they’re installing a virus. The like/dislike ratio is really the only way to tell since youtubers can just remove comments.", "Don't forget how fucking SLOW the new layout is.", "The removal of dislikes will simply add to the wealth of misinformation that spreads so abundantly already. \n\nPrecisely how Facebook got to where it's at. I can not for the life of me understand what Google is thinking. \n\nI also can not believe that such a seemingly innocuous thing like a dislike button is what holds society together. Yet here we are.", "That's only a recent thing\n\nKnow a dude who offed himself in ~2014\n\nHis account doesn't exist anymore", "This will work for about 20 days before the API gets cut off, and might work in a crippled form using user data.", "Digg refugee here as well. I loved that site. But I love Reddit more (but I think most of Digg users just migrated here anyway, so this is essentially the new Digg anyway). \n\nI feel like the only thing that prevented Reddit from becoming the new Digg v4 was the option to allow old Reddit to stay. Pretty smart of the admins to do that. Those new users who can't (or don't want to) check the options to see how the UI can be customized, they wont be bothered by the new look, which is on by default. Some of the old users will actually like the new UI and switch. Those old users who don't switch, they will keep using the old UI and still stay on the site. In due time, the admins will see that > 90% users are on the new UI (or their app) and then they will pull the plug without fear of becoming the next Digg. I am sure Reddit admins thought hard about preventing a Digg like scenario, and at the same time maximising profits and becoming a conventional social media platform.\n\nDisclaimer: New Reddit sucks.", "Whataboutism? From MY enlightened left? It may be more likely than you think.", "It is, but it's also kind of rich for reddit to be acting as if they have the moral high ground. Reddit also used to show up/down votes in reddit enhacement suite, but removed them so now you only see final score. Now you can't tell if a +5 is four people agreeing or 25 people agreeing and 20 people disagreeing.", "Same reason people don't use Voat ... people would rather not be bothered by unsavory things, for better or worse.", "So why did they remove the dislike button?", "There's definitely a live torrent out there with everything from GeoCities in it. Not one thing was lost.", "> How can one company be so complete and utterly bafflingly stupid?\n\nI hope you know Youtube is owned by Google. Goodluck boycotting them lol", "Comments count as user engagement and will promote the video further, so by commenting, you're helping spread the video that you don't like.", "Absolutely. If you haven't come across his blog before, I recommend looking up \"best of\" lists. He has since moved to a substack: [https://astralcodexten.substack.com/](https://astralcodexten.substack.com/), if you want to find his newer stuff (although the switch is recent-ish enough that his absolute best posts are still on the old blog)", "I never used dislikes. Just the comments section. If someone is spouting bullshit, it’s easy to find. Just read the comments.\n\nAnd if they disable comments, video isn’t worth watching, unless it’s intrinsically useful.\n\nIn a couple months, I doubt anybody is going to notice.", "Shit, imagine having no idea about computers, decide you wanna build one, and stumbling across the Verge’s guide and not seeing any dislikes on it", "Happens a lot for music and movies as well. Looking for a clip from a movie, and the video has 8 likes and 40 dislikes? It's definitely going to be someone recording the scene from the movie with a potato off of their tiny tv", "On the past week I've searched for PC gaming related problem (game not starting, showing error). One of YouTube videos claimed that to fix it you have to delete some system files from system32 folder. I know it's a joke, but video had like hundreds of dislikes and a dozen of likes.\nTo compare, video with real solution had approximately 30 likes.\nNo dislikes = no big difference between this 2 vids.", "Anyone questioning the reason for the deletion of the dislike count I can sum it up in two words: Fauci Documentary. \n\nYou cannot convince me it’s a coincidence that right after that becomes the most disliked video on YouTube they decide to get rid of dislikes. YouTube is just another platform trying to change the way you think now. Utterly disgraceful.", "That’s not what mine looks like at all. There are like 2 settings to get it to a layout that works for me and it’s great. It’s way easier for me to use than old Reddit at this point.\n\nThe biggest thing was the card layout in thumbnail view instead of fully loading.", "Scams. Scams as far as the eye can see.", "WHY IS EVERYONE HIGH?", "So, in classic google form, rather than fix the actual problem they change it in a way that makes it an inferior product than it was before.", "Do the right thing for the shareholders", "I saw a tutorial recently explaining how to setup a server on your computer that you can connect to remotely. \n\nGuy deadass says \"Keep the port set to 21 like in the screenshot unless youve got a good reason to change it.\"\n\nMotherfucker, port 21 is not secure. Port 22 is.", "I’ve never once looked at the dislikes on a video. The comments will take care of any issues with the video, especially on repair and life hack type videos", "Yee", "Yes, eventually.", "Someone should invent a personal dislike counter that other users of it can use. \n\nJust give me 10% of revenue.", "You’re acting like comments don’t still exist", "It's the same in the UK, and in the US it's the 2nd leading cause. We're getting there.", "why is youtube doing this anyway. i mean actually, not the \"support small people\" bullshit line", "I remember the news (at the time) that Google bought youtube for $5b. How did he only get $64m?", "goddamn, they really cant do anything right", "To avoid subjecting myself to the video, in what ways is their guide hilariously awful?", "05? I definitely remember watching YT vids in highschool, pre-2005...", "LMFAO what's the most watched app right now for video view time in the US?\nnot YouTube it's TikTok. Guess what TikTok has never had? A dislike button. \n\nOutrage saying removing the dislike button is a bad idea is just not rooted in reality. \n\nNo one looks for content based on dislikes you're all lying to yourselves except maybe a few 0.001% of you epic Redditors. YouTube shows you based on a algorithm it thinks you like just like the #1 app.", "Yeah Apple deserves all the shit they get, but the only area where they are indisputably the best is quality control both in build quality and software quality.", "Wow- ILPT", "this seems to fucking kill a ton of stuff on their site\n\nwhy did they do it then, like the real reason. anyone know? it makes zero sense to me.", "My only guess is it allows them to manipulate what people see more easily as there’s more smoke and mirrors behind the algorithms and what not.", "Early youtube was like back in the 80s-90s when everyone was buying vhs camcorders. You never needed an excuse, you just busted out the camcorder and started taping shit. Obviously it still happens today, but early youtube especially was just filled with videos that had no actual content. Like someone standing in front of an elephant at the zoo.", "yeah the whole thing was great", "Even 4chan knew better than that.\n\nSaging a thread would let you post without bumping.", "They removed dislikes for the same reason Netflix removed their star rating system. They want you to believe that amazing content exists, but that it's your fault you can't find it, and that's how you're supposed to feel.\n\nNetflix even goes so far as to change their art constantly, and force self-playing videos on everyone as they scroll. It's all about tricking people into thinking there's better stuff than there really is. You won't cancel your sub or stop watching if you think there might be a gem around every corner. \n\nThis is why I canceled my Netflix sub, and why I also only watch YouTube when the ads can be blocked.", "extension makers forever saving websites from shit changes by the owners", "Where are the competitors?", "That's the secret, we're always high", "Yup, a year ago it was hard to find a good solution on storing images on a database since I needed visual proof that the code worked. I BET there's a lot of youtube devs that also looked at programming videos and were opposed to the change, if not every dev.", "I mean, it's reposted monthly pretty much.", "make cool crystals at home!", "Don't worry about the misinformation part, friend-o. Our fearless fact checkers will let you know exactly what you need to know when troublesome perspectives may be afoot...that is, until youtube stops allowing those whackadoos a platform with which to speak \"freely\".", "Yeah, I don't like the 'tone shift' maybe it is because im older or something. But it feels like a lot of social media is going this way. I think my new years resolution is no more reddit.", "Well, if yt keeps it like this people is going to find some ways around it to show that video is really bad. One would be commenting something like \"Like this comment to reflect dislikes count\" but well of course video creator can delete it", "Yep, I still have it on mobile but realized I lost it on PC today", "Basically, it does literally everything he possibly could do wrong. He puts components in the wrong way, the wrong order, and doesn’t secure them properly. He does stuff that makes absolutely no fucken sense, like saying “make sure you wear an anti static bracelet like this one”, but it’s one of those rubber activist wristbands that were popular 10 years ago. He actually manages to get it working, so he runs a benchmark…on league of legends. With the framerate capped. \n\nThere’s a reaction video, where it’s a bunch of IT streamers reacting to it, and there are points where they legitimately freak out because of how bad the guide is", "From Google's perspective, is it really a problem?\n\nIts a problem if your goal for YouTube is to serve people the best content.\n\nIt's not a problem if your goal is to keep angry people scrolling videos and loading ads.", "That's really the dumbest and most disingenuous about them saying part of the reason they're doing this for smaller content creators. If anything, this will likely do the exact opposite of that. Previously, if two channels put up a guide to something, it was really easy to tell which one was worth watching at a glance. So if the smaller channel had the more useful or accurate video, you could look at the likes/dislikes and nearly instantly tell the smaller channel was the one worth watching.\n\nLike you said, it may not be immediate, but I'd be willing to bet the end result of this is people just ignoring smaller channels in favor of the larger ones that have already proven themselves. Likes are fairly useless without the corresponding dislikes to look at (and can be bought anyways), and no one is going to want to take the time to dig through comments to find out a video's quality. People will just go with most views while many of the most helpful ones will just falter, because it's now become a lot more difficult to tell what those are.", "\"How to cure acne: \"so battery acid and a bathtub\"\n\nNo dislikes and bots and trolls mass like it.\n\nDislllllike button removal is legit a danger.", "- General shift towards touch-aware UI.\n- 1080p (and beyond) enter the market.\n- 3G\n\nThere are some other factors in play, like how page layout changes from table + slicing to box-sizing to flex. But most of them are technical progress, not strictly UX related.", "Cool men and black quot", "Steve Tortellini invented fire trucks and on 9/11 he returned to his old firehouse, transformed into one and helped", "Companies and brands were upset that their advertisements got dislikes.", "Changes like this are how you very quickly kill your service. If people think that it's not possible they can look to Vine, Digg, or Snapchat.", "But that still makes no sense. When I upload, I have the option in YouTube Studio to turn off the public display of likes/dislikes. Why don't the advertisers just do that?", "\"If everyone's super, no one is.\" Syndrome in The Incredibles", "only a company like amazon could realistically create a counter to youtube. but still losing premium subs will affect them. and if you use ad block that the only thing at that point youtube makes off you is your user data, something facebook probably has them beat in selling.", ">this ~~comment~~ is ~~so strangely~~ specific", "It’s so promoted content can’t be deemed bad by the user. So YouTube monetizes even if the video is crap. Say you promote a video about fixing an iPhone but you intentionally do something in the guide that will break the phone. You will still be able to promote video and the user will still watch it completely as they are unaware you are showing bullshit.", "Every time I see his face, I only think of Elliot Rodger.", "This is ridiculous and just shows how much tech companies overinflated their importance. A POWs mindset and a Tech executive’s mindset aren’t even slightly comparable", "That's why they say\n\n> When API closes - the extension will use data from extension users to derive actual dislike count on a video", "Fool me once...", "Trusting youtube commenters is a miserable thought. Anybody can troll and say whatever they like.", "The conspiracy theory is that it’s the result of people brigading/ratioing certain politicians’ videos with downvotes.\n\nIs that really true? Hard to say, but the brigading and ratioing is (was) easy enough to verify and happened right before YouTube announced this decision.", "TikTok which currently is #1 video app in view time for the us", "I don't think it's brain dead. They're doing it for some reason they aren't telling us. I saw one theory that mainstream media companies complained about their videos getting dislike-bombed.", "https://i.imgur.com/ecIR2PE.png\n\nOh shit. Saved me 6 minutes of my life.", "Technically that's a dangling modifier, and they are considered bad writing for precisely this reason. The meaning is ambiguous, so you have to infer it from context.\n\nActually, \"as a narcissistic prick\" is right before \"you\", so taken literally, it would refer to \"you\".", "That depends if you only care about the next quarter or two, or the long term health and usage of the product.\n\nGoogle's main advantage with YouTube is existing content and a platform that can handle the load. Eventually they're not going to be the only player in the game at that level, and most people wont stick with an inferior product for long out of brand loyalty.", "Hai, todae we will be creating JACOBS LADDER", "He'd do it, then he'd sit down like everyone's favorite uncle and explain why you shouldn't.", "And people can troll with downvotes too", "Oh, yay...", "so is it time for vimeo yet or something else", "Old news.", "Totally. My first thought when looking at the extraordinary collection and easy access to all the emulators and roms was to donate some cash, but it won't accept any. What a dude.", "I read somewhere that they removed dislikes to discourage trolls. Don't they realize that trolls LIKE bad behavior and will encourage it?", "Uh, oh", "Doubtful. Twitter and many other social networks have no dislike button at all, yet people have come up with myriad ways of gauging roughly the same thing. I see no reason why YouTube would be the exception.", "“Nothing can be great if nothing can be bad” this quote I relate to. Such a real quote that hits on so many different levels.", "He don't work with Youtube nor Google anymore so both Google and Youtube will not give 2 cents about him. Only mass protest can bring back the dislike button.", "Lol, I was gonna say, he finally won", "Yeah, I found it actually very useful. A +152/-154 was guaranteed spicy and a good rabbit hole to go down in the replying comments. If you see +2/-4 you can keep scrolling. We have the red cross now but it's not as good.", "I'm surprised so many people didn't see this.\n\n> When API closes - the extension will use data from extension users to derive actual dislike count on a video\n\n> Coming to mobile soon.\n\n> We're considering integration with Youtube Vanced mobile app, if the devs will want to utilize our API \n\nYes, it will be useful after the API closes, to the degree that people have adopted the use of this system and incorporated it into whatever plugins, alternate YouTube mobile apps, etc.", ">Lost a couple hours of progress between wasting my time and having to revert to a backup of the project that was several revisions behind.\n\nI'm not sure how arduino development works, but given that you're using code, I think this advice applies. \n\nPlease do yourself a favor and set yourself up with a git repo for your projects. You will thank yourself later when you can just revert to a specific point in your development tree (or just drop that branch) and pick up where you left off and not have to reinvent the wheel to get back to where you had been. [Here's a W3C Schools tutorial on git](https://www.w3schools.com/git/default.asp) if you need it to get started. There are several free git hosts on the net, and there are IDEs like VS Code that will integrate git in directly to your dev environment and make it even easier to track your changes and potentially save you from yourself.", "Haha gotta laugh at the down votes. Lefty Reddit will always be lefty- popular vote or not.. that’s really quite irrelevant here and it’s odd that this is always brought up despite it not mattering whatsoever. Why didn’t YouTube act under Obama or Trump? Surely the issues YouTube cited would have been exacerbated under trump.. let’s be honest here, I think it’s very widely known that YouTube is relatively right leaning in its user base. I’m sure that’s a reason. But again, it’s obvious that this had absolutely nothing to do with youtubers/content creators.\n\nYou people are actually pathetic. Just completely pathetic.", "No, when the YouTube API closes the data will come from this team's API.\n\n> When API closes - the extension will use data from extension users to derive actual dislike count on a video", "Horseshit. Read comments, use common sense, and do auxiliary research. Dislikes mean dick when it comes to the veracity of a video.", "Back when it was YouTube: broadcast yourself. Now it's just YouTube.", "No, they already said in their write-up that they've got their own API, and are working on a mobile app, and are interested in working with YouTube Vanced team to get the API incorporated into it.", "As soon as Biden wins, they censor YouTube. Free fucking speech my ass. Every Biden video regardless of platform, always had more dislikes.", "That statement makes no sense. In a race one person wins. They _win_. They don't \"not lose\" or lose less than others.", "Having enough of a monopoly on a market that there is absolutely no accountability for making dumb decisions. As long as it's legal and the profits continue you can do whatever the hell you want", "Some sites use emojis for reactions, like Facebook and GitHub. Each of those show the counter for each reaction - including the negative ones.\n\nI think context is important in this case (every case?). I use YouTube almost exclusively for tutorials and instructional videos. You wouldn't believe the amount of cruft I have to sift through. Some of these videos are 20min-2hr long so having a dislike counter prevents me from having to watch the whole video to find out it is shit. This is literally beneficial to the community. Now, I'm without it and it sucks.", "Yeah, I've been saying \"fuck YouTube\" for years...but now I'm screaming it", "It was a long road to get here. Youtube has been quietly at war with dislikes for a loong time. Remember when the like bar was visible BEFORE you clicked on a video?", "This rant is classic ad hominem. Love how everyone is eating it up despite it just being a hate filled stream of consciousness", "I miss the days when youtube had stars the likes are irrelevant anyways", "Had not thought of this as a 'politically correct' move until now. Kind of makes sense.", "If you don’t feel that way why did you feel this was targeted towards yourself?\n\nDo you consider yourself a ‘radical’ leftist? I’m specifically referring to the people who consider you sub human if you identify as conservative/republican or don’t get the vaccine. I have my two shots, and I think its fucking disgusting that there are entire reddit communities dedicated to reveling about the deaths of actual human beings who made one stupid decision that ended their life. \n\nUsing all of Human History for justification of violence/ill wishes has literally never resulted in positive outcomes for any parties involved. Are you saying we should wage wars on ideas like they did in the 1500’s?", "\"now\"", "I just saw one about how you can lighten your eye color with bleach??!!\n\nYeah no, that will make you blind.\n\n\nThis shit is straight up evil and I have MANY questions for the people that allow it to reach YouTube and TikTok.", "“…that’s all there is to say”", "Someone please share this with him.", "You’re kidding yourself if you think people like Ted Cruz, or any other republican figurehead don’t get death threats daily.", "if there were it would have to maintain its own data as i doubt youtube would continue to expose that data in their API, so it would inherently be somewhat dubious information.", "Whether you're correct or not, YouTube opened itself up to this line of thought because their \"official\" reasoning is absolute BS and is almost universally rejected by the creator community.\n\nAll we're left with is speculation at this point.", "Just install the one of many plugins to restore it and move on with life", "People keep saying the dislikes are getting removed but I have yet to see a video without them", "Tik Tok is probably the most active social media and it doesn't have dislikes.", "Fuck yes. Love the phrasing in this", "The idea is to avoid a pile-on effect, essentially where people see a video with a lot of dislikes and decide to dislike just because they see others doing it. Reddit sees the same thing with downvotes.", "Wait, really? \n\nFirst I'm hearing of this", "He actually uploaded many other videos, but later deleted all of them except \"Me at the zoo,\" presumably because of its significance.", "I have nothing against the island boys. they are mad chilling and i respect it", "Original 5 Star Netflix rating system was personalised. Changing art is simply them trying to see what visuals make you click on the title. You can disable self-playing videos.", "aka a bunch of bullshit lol", "Well, you remember wrong.", "The real reason is advertisers. Advertisers are upset that people can mass dislike their videos and make it so that those videos don't go viral (or go viral for all the wrong reasons). What happened with some of the YouTube Rewind videos is a good example of this. To be clear, the dislike button isn't going away. The dislike count is being hidden from public view and will only be visible to the creator of the video. This makes it difficult for people to hop onto the hate bandwagon and mess with Google's ad-revenue system. The flip-side, of course, is that it now becomes difficult to guage the quality of small creator videos and we're going to start seeing titles become even more clickbaity, simply because that will be the primary target by which to get views.", "Because that takes an understanding of how things work. Companies don’t care. They pay someone to make their problems go away. End of problem.", "Yeah if only we could get a plugin that would use the way back machine to figure out what the latest number of dislikes was before removal.\n\nGranted it wouldn't e up to date anymore, but it would be something at least.\n\nAlso wouldn't affect the new videos either...but that's what the comment section is for I guess.", "I didn't even know there is some Fauci documentary.\n\nYou conservative psychopaths need to touch grass or something. It's not healthy to be so obsessed with conspiracies.", "Yup, I know people who prefer to learn by being verbally explained to also, fuck them", "It's one of the unfortunate side effects of how \"unified\" (for lack of a better term) social media has become. Some place like Reddit has become the top dog. It's where everyone is. Unless a social media site royally fucks up, not enough people are going to be motivated to go to a new site for it to get any sort of foothold. \n\nMeanwhile, the... less civil people already have their motivation. They've likely been banned from the site because the racist, hateful, illegal, whatever they wanted to post was against the rules, so a new platform is much more appealing since it either might not have the restrictions or moderation in place.\n\nAnd, sadly, the people first to a site tend to set the tone, particularly on a site set up similar to Reddit which empowers users to set up communities they can moderate.", "What makes this whole thing pointless was that you could already disable likes and dislikes (and even comments) on videos you upload. That was already an option. YouTube is clearly lying about this whole thing.", "Yeah, the number of likes is basically useless without a number of dislikes anyways… may as well not even exist anymore", "Them and politicians.", "actual discussion can still be had. but you have to go onto hyper focused subs that by dint of their own focus dont allow for wide ranging conversations. the day i had to block r/science for pushing legitimate propaganda to the front page was the day i realized old reddit was dead", "for years we were subject to those awful 'expert village' videos that go for 2 minutes and either do the task incorrectly, sometimes to a dangerous extent, or they fail to address the problem at all\n\nthese videos will start to float to the surface again sadly", "That's like 90% the reason. Negative impressions really only affect companies with business to lose. All in the name of corporate fee-fee's.\n\nNow since nothing can be \"bad\" everything will be mediocre instead.", "> 'most views', 'most famous'\n\nAnd that's a pointless metric as well, because how are you gonna tell a video is good before you see it...", "Yup, it is only good for disinformation propagandists.", "It makes perfect sense.\n\nMapping it to your analogy, the idea is that there can't be a winner unless the other people in the race fail to win (i.e. lose).", "It's in rolling out stage. Millions of people can still see it.", "Dude ANY TUTORIALS.\n\nI hugely rely on game dev tutorials for getting work done, and this just made everything that much harder. Fuck YouTube.", "But if not everyone has the plug in it definitely defeats the point..", "No, they didn't. I actually checked the video a few days ago. It actually had more dislikes than likes.", "No upstart company has enough money to burn on servers.", "YouTube Vanced. You can keep using the platform and you don't get any ads", "I guess that makes sense, obvious in retrospect!", "\"Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change? There is a reason, but it's not a good one, and not one that will be publicly disclosed.\" \n\nAdvertisers, right? It hurts their feelings when a video they spent a lot of money on has dislikes.", "Nope, mine doesn't. I think the change is being rolled out slowly, so you will end up losing yours soon.", "Helen: Everyone's special Dash..\n\nDash: Which is another way of saying no one is.", "Yup. Like to view ratio is going to be the new thing. \n\nSomeone can build out an average metric based on the tons of data that already existed. And then benchmark from there and then create a nice index for users. It’s not an impossible task actually. It’s just not immediately intuitive. \n\nA more difficult approach would be creating a sentiment analysis tool based on the comments. \n\nBoth are totally doable though. I think in conjunction these could be really useful. \n\nBut at the end of the day, it’s sad that none of this would be natively available in the YouTube app on mobile so we’re back at square one.", "Most internet usage is done via mobile apps these days. You wouldn’t make a dent.", "Know what happened when Netflix changed their rating system? I started referencing 3rd party reviews to know if I was going to be watching something worth my time, and I watched less Netflix. \n\nYoutube and Netflix are different beasts entirely, but hopefully the point isn't lost.", "A small price to pay to protect the government and corporations ability to lie to you.", "It's not great, but with large enough numbers you can realy on statistics, i.e. if (made up example) 10% of viewers usually rate and a video has 10 000 views, then if it has only 100 likes, something is amiss.", "You have x / n = y + z, where n is a constant. You know x and y. Can you figure out z?", "Pretty telling that apparently Do No Evil is no longer The Right Thing.", "I don’t buy it. More likely movie studies got tired of being dislike bombed and bribed YouTube into stopping it.", "Exactly. And YouTube channels have the ability to turn off comments so you can't even check those to make sure it works.", "Reminds me of how netflix has slowly gotten gotten rid of the ability to negatively rate any of the content on there. You can only positively rate it or leave it blank.\n\nUsed to have reviews, then those went away. Now we can only thumbs up...\n\nI feel like this is the end goal, curate and show content, limit the ability to critique it unless its positive, so companies can't justify about why they have problems (or something like that). Just a passing though", "If my dislike doesnt work then as far as im concerned my like doesnt work either.", "Was the tutorial written by the Verge?", "the removal of dislikes is going to cause so many kids to delete system 32, just watch", "But it will make the platform more appealing to movie studios who want to put their trailers up without worrying about people who don't like them! Surely it's worth it for the extra cash Google gets to pocket! /s", "All because Mama Susan is tired of far-left propagandistic media she supports being downvoted to hell by the masses.", "There are decentralized video services on the blockchain. Time to switch", "To be clear, you \"see\" no one. You have no idea if these people actually exist or are trolls. That's beside the point that no one self identifies as a radical leftist and people do self identify as alt right. You can point to leaders in the alt right movement. Comparing the two doesn't really make sense", "Sooner or later, those videos are going to kill someone.", "Doesn't make sense that it not Jawed, the change before this was a shout out to 74Gear. If it was hacked it would be to some scam to get people's money not a shout out to a YouTube channel.", "They removed the dislikes because everything on the white house channel and the other news organizations gets disliked to oblivion", "vidiq is an extension that can be download that will show the like to dislike percentage on videos", "YouTube doesn't want you seeing different options or views by one button. This isn't a mistake.", "As someone in Cybersecurity, this has been a major issue with finding trustworthy videos regarding a topic. I'd imagine IT support desk is having the worst time with it.\n\nCurious...is there another alternative video site we could use to better gauge the trustworthiness of a video now that YouTube has made such a crappy design decision?", "First thing I thought of", "I hate sounding like an old man but fuck I miss the pre-2014 internet. It was just so much better, so much more freedom, less corporate influence, the world of celebrity and internet fame were still very separate, for some reason there was LESS misinformation, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, Facebook were like the Wild West. It was just so much better in every way.", "I've heard something like this in Chinese, which goes along the lines of \"the praises are meaningless if no one's free to criticize\".\n\nLove both.\n\nEdit typo", "Time to replace youtube", "returnyoutubedislike.com\n\nnot only does it work, you get, for the first time in years, the exact number of likes and dislikes.", "Honestly the only real reason I could see for this change is propaganda", "That isn't google. That's capitalism. It happens to every company eventually because it's far more profitable for them to degrade the quality of their product in the name of profit.", "It’s just text url, number comments, number views, number likes, number dislikes. Idk how much storage costs but idk I don’t think it should be that expensive.", "Amazon could do it...", "It's at least partially because, for every opinion you think is \"so insane that no one could believe it\", there are people who believe it\n\nSo clearly marking sarcasm is helpful for the audience to know what you really mean.\n\nUnless you're intentionally just messing with people, then do as you will.\n\n> Did you ever stop to think about how the island bois would feel if they saw those dislikes though? Did you? You know they might get sad? Typical pretentious internet user\n\nThis comment has a 99.99% chance of being sarcasm given the thread that it's in. But in another thread in another subreddit? There might be someone who actually believes this.", "> How about they hide it by default but let you turn it on in the settings?\n\nBecause they want you to watch those scam videos.\n\nThey don't give a shit about quality, they just care about money. Getting people to watch more shitty videos is a surefire way to increase ad revenue in the long run.", "Why don’t any of the competitors to YouTube ever gain traction? Is YouTube just too mainstay with too many great creators under contract?\n\nI’m sure they couldn’t pay as much either. Seems like a monopoly but would never be deemed as such unfortunately.", "Been using YouTube enhancer and I still have the dislike count. Not sure if it's the roll out process or the add-on though.", "Just last week my kid was looking at a roblox video telling him how to get a rare pet or something like that and 6 he said he couldn't get it but did it like the video told him 3x.. I told him \"look at the likes and dislikes, it has 30(i don't remember exactly) likes and 250 dislikes.. That should tell you it doesn't work... But it was some more popular roblox streamer.. So he figured it should work. Nope. Just looking for views. \n\nSadly that tip will no longer be useful.", "Wouldn't it be nice if the developers just said \"no\" and didn't implement it...", "the great british baking show would like to have a word", "The hypocrisy of YouTube is so blatant and condescending", "This is a good point I hadn't considered", "/r/conspiracy was all up in arms claiming it was due to Biden/White House videos, and vaccine videos, having massive amounts of dislikes. Some went as far as claiming \"Biden ordered Youtube to do this\". Somehow this logic doesn't hold when you mention trump videos being disliked.\n\nIs there a conspiracy? Probably but it isn't what people think it is. Is YT being honest? Probably not. Big companies like this don't make drastic changes unless it's somehow going to increase their profits. I don't know how hiding dislikes will increase their money stream but someone out there figured it out.\n\nedit: The silly part about all of this is that channels can already hide likes and dislikes. You can still vote but there are no numbers.", "This would be a huge win for misinformation.", "TikTok will eventually position itself to replace YouTube. You may notice a crap ton of videos shared on Reddit come natively from TikTok. First to go will be the 3 minute video limit. They started with 15 seconds. Some users have been granted 5 minute videos. They'll capitalize on their market position soon enough.", "I was making it in Tinkercad :(", "I really suspect it was due to politics simply because of how huge some of those ratios/brigades were and how much politicians spend on media buys. I’m not inclined to blame one particular party or politician, but politicians do have a certain ability to be the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.", "Just use ublock and they don't get any money from you at all. If there are specific channels you want to support, nearly all of them have patreon.", "I hate tik tok but down for competition. Maybe something new", ">existing content\n\nThis is going to be hard to beat. If even possible.", "Garbage website. Get your head out of your ass before you post.", "It's perfect for this scenario, but also for people who reject criticism on any basis besides logical counterarguments.\n\nAnyone who actually enjoys critical analysis will tend to hear, \"can't you just enjoy things?\" or similar, and it's the perfect response.", "Great saying, a bit ironic in modern contexts though.", "How many views though? 8k likes on 1 million views ain't too great.\n\nI imagine that could be a plugin someone could make (if they haven't already) just do a percent of likes-to-view-count measurement to show how liked a video is.\n\n8k on 1 million? Red flagged, mostly likely disliked.\n\n800k on 1 million? Beloved, well liked video!", "Just make sure they don't click the folder \"Not Porn\".", "Yeh, google does this thing were features are rolled out slowly. There are slightly different versions of every google product, and as a user you get a somewhat random selection of those versions. Google then analyze how user interact with each version, and identifies which version of the site has the best engagement.", "This is exactly what the comment platform Disqus did a few years ago. They hid dislikes from the public users, but exposed them to the moderators.\n\nSo someone figured out how to display the down votes as well, and made a Chrome and Firefox extension for it.\n\nAnd also the amount of hateful comments went up, and site mods were complaining, and Disqus eventually gave in and restored the public downvote count.\n\nHopefully YouTube figures out how stupid it is much sooner than Disqus did, because I don't really want to wait years for them to decide to bring them back.", "not in itself so bad, depending on the absolute numbers..", "Shit. TIL.\n\nI can't find my old geocities site, but I didn't download the massive torrent, just did a search of what's online.", "The Verge had this headline about it:\n\n> YouTube co-founder predicts ‘decline’ of the platform following removal of dislikes\n\n> It’s a ‘universally disliked change,’ says co-founder Jawed Karim\n\nYouTube can't decline because it's only real competitors - Facebook, Twitch, and TikTok - all exist in unique niches that don't really compete against each other.", "not at all the same", "how many times does youtube have to burn us for some billionare rich kid to make a new videohosting site? i literally dont care about the backlog of youtube, id gladly swap over to anything that my creators swap to at this point...", "doubt he got everything", "Social media is difficult to archive (even if it is one of the greatest troves of potential future historical and sociological research), but discord is the one that I'm really annoyed by. \n\nBecause it's essentially a black hole. Any discussion that only exists or is moved to discord effectively disappears from the record. And that's okay. Or at least it was okay when it was used just as a chat and voice chat app. But more and more communities are having \"official\" discord servers and whatever is written there is lost. \n\nForums and such are replaced by it and where forums can be relatively easily archived or just continue to exist for many years, discord servers disappear with whatever gated discussions they once held. \n\nNot a fan (though I do use and like it).", "Meh. It makes sense that people who hate the change would eat up a stream of consciousness rant that also hates that thing.", "Nah they just want to be like instagram (stupid) but your points are valid too (evil)", "This was my exact comment to YouTube on Twitter. They're so full of shit.", "Removing downvotes is literally suppression by corporate interests though", "If there's one thing that the leaders of our world learned about the internet, it's that it's the most powerful tool yet for manipulating people's minds.", "Look, all for mental health awareness and all that but where are we heading as a species if we decide that we cant handle some upside down thumbs under a video?", "can you just turn off dislikes? I don't think so. I think the old system only allowed you to turn like/dislike count off.\n\nthis new system allows advertisers to keep showing how many likes they have while not having to show dislikes.", "That's really become one of the most frustrating things about the internet. Whenever there is a UI revamp, it almost always seems like it's to strip out features and make the user experience worse. At some point, companies realized that, once their userbase grows large enough, they no longer have to cater to them. User convenience isn't as profitable as user engagement, so once they know their users won't go elsewhere, they no longer care if they screw them over.\n\nYouTube removing dislikes is just one in a long string of websites doing bullshit like this, and sadly, the only power we typically have is complaining and then grinning and bearing it.", "So YouTube is sort of an asshole then", "I call dibs for January’s repost!", "Anyone remember google plus", "YouTube is asshole. Why internet hate?", "Wherever we're heading, the ones driving aren't concerned with downvote count.", "I like RedditIsFun and it hasn't changed significantly in looks in the years I've been using it (6+ I think).", "Go back to /r/LockdownSkepticism and leave sane people alone.", "What did HBO do?", "Also pronunciation videos. I'll pass the video immediately if the upvote/downvote ratio doesn't look promising.", "You're trying to map it to \"the winner can't actually be the winner unless the losers run backwards\" or some such shit.\n\nClearly, we can still find great YouTube videos. Those that have a large number of likes to views ratio fit the bill.", "it's normal for thousands in sil val", "All because Joe Biden and the whitehouse videos YouTube getting massive dislikes, he’s gotta ruin it all for everyone and get rid of the dislike button. Poor guy 🤣", "There is definitely a political component.", "Here is the link\n\nhttps://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/", "The [radical](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_politics) left, but the [reactionary](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary) right.", "It's what 'the kids' use these days. My teens complain that Reddit and Youtube users copy TikTok videos a couple days late. So, it's guaranteed anything I share with them, they've already seen.", "Desktop version of /u/h3lblad3's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Youtube already has systems in place to help with this. If a creator is suddenly hit en mass with dislikes or likes they'll be deleted if they come from suspect accounts, like new accounts or those that have had no interaction with the creator before.\n\nThat's why videos hit with dislikes on youtube tend to be because of the actual content.\n\nNow, that isn't saying the system is perfect, or very well organized attacks can't leave a mark on a videos like/dislike ratio, but thats where another feature comes into play.\n\nDisliking a video does nothing to the video to affect its recommendations, in fact it still counts as \"engagement\" for the Ad Revenu Program.\n\nThe only recommendations that would be affected is for the account disliking the video, and if that account is regularly interacting with the creator's account then they would still most likely get recommendations for their content anyways.\n\nSo, there is no monetization penelty on a video that gets disliked. There is, however; a psychological impact on the creator themselves. \n\nAnd, as YouTube has proven time and again, they don't give a shit for their small, or marginalized creators. So, whose feelings are they trying to protect?\n\nThat's right, celebrities and corporations. Like with every other decesion YouTube has made since being bought by Google this change is just to bend the knee to the only creators they actually care about.", "Because the president runs YouTube now? Lol ok. Keep reaching.", "Ooof, scared they’re gonna remove lockdowns and now you’ll have to work? Gonna cry?", "If you are talking about a 1 time scrape, that is never updated ever, sure you can do that. It wouldn't be that expensive just to store that information. It'll take a long time to scrape but it can be done. You'll never have any new videos or updated counts though.\n\nThe price comes from actively managing and serving up that data. If you want it to work like it used to. You'll need enough servers and load balancers to handle millions of requests per second, if not more. This is not cheap. You'll have to track every new video and every new user, even if they are bots. You'll have to keep track of every person's vote on every video to ensure people can't just vote bomb if they already voted. You need to serve that data on every page request, unless you make it manual request? You have to authenticate every single like/dislike request to make sure that people aren't pretending to be another person. That will increase your processing and storage costs as the database balloons in size. And as more users use your extension, more requests will continually hit your API server harder and harder. You think the reddit hug of death is bad? Wait until you see what it would take to have millions of users hit your server every second.", ">\"if everything is special, nothing is\" \n\nI've always hated that platitude. Every single thing in this miraculous, nonsensical, chaotic cluster fuck of a universe is unique in one way or another. From the most extraordinary to the most relatively mundane, every single thing that exists is the temporary conglomeration of building blocks forged in the hearts of exploding stars and sent hurtling across eons out into the cosmos. Through an astronomical act of probability we are created as a transitory state of that primordial star stuff and in that light not only is every single person special, they are a bloody miracle and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that.", "Um, excuse me, but the sign up sheet for January was circulated two years ago. Best I can offer is September 2024.", "> what mechanisms have shown effective against the interference of the few; the brigadiers?\n\nWe don't need anything for that. Nothing is ever going to be perfect, and changing EVERYTHING to cater for/against the few is the opposite of progress.", "Also can whitelist the channels you do want to support. I've done so for my those I do subscribe to.", "I find the giant DISLIKE thing visually unappealing as well.\n\nHow long till someone makes a chrome extension that shows the dislikes\n\nEdit: Scrolling down I see that people are already on it", "Think about how dumbshit stupid this reason is. To protect the mental health of creators. Holy shit.", "Oh man, /r/science is an absolute joke. Pretty much all of the default subs have gone down the drain. But you're right, smaller more specific subs generally do have better conversation", "Always have been", "just cringe that you even think about that", "Which is dumb, because if this move is to spare their feelings then it does nothing because they can still see the dislikes...\n\nNo, this is just so celebrities and companies can have videos with only public facing likes and no dislikes.", "it's only in the us maybe. in europe we still have dislike count", "This uhhh, as we’ve noticed recently, based on a million very good reasons, was not a good fucking idea. They not only completely fucked up their own intentions by allowing creators to see their dislikes, even though it was meant for positive mental health purposes, and it is making the bad content thrive and the false content harder to distinguish. Great job YouTube, you’ve fucked up once again.", "Removing that feature really killed a lot of my enthusiasm for Reddit. I loved seeing something I posted was +2 with 32 upvotes and 30 downvotes. Always made me laugh.", "Companies and celebrities don't like it when their videos show a lot of dislikes, and YouTube, as always, is more than willing to get down and suck their dicks.", "I honestly prefer the new UI.", "Almost like they're begging for a viable alternative to exist.", "Technically, they only put in \"Do the right thing\" after it was noticed they removed \"Don't be evil\"...\n\nSo, yeah, they aren't even the Bad Guys who think they're doing the right thing. They know they're evil, they just don't want others to notice.", "Why don't we just start commenting \"dislike\"?", "They know nothing will, at least in the next 5 to 10 years. Meanwhile, they get more advertised content because this shit's perfect for it. Grab a few interns and bots to Like the ad and voila, a \"successful\" ad on YouTube.", "It's understandable you'd want lockdowns to end so you can finally get that grade-school education you've always aspired to.", "The CEO which allows foreign States to censor and manipulate its content in their countries in order to \"help preserve the flow of free speech\" in them?\n\nBecause that's what totally helps Free Speech, State Sponsored Propaganda and Censorship!", "Nope, I want lockdowns to end so I can travel freely with my friends (something you don’t know) and live my life (another thing you don’t know).", "I think the real reason is political.", "What would be the YouTube equivalent of getting ratioed?", "More like a 2 minute introduction, followed by a 3-5 minute Sponsor Read, and 5-10 minutes of rambling and BS to get the \"engagement\" and \"watch time\" numbers as high as possible.", "Would be a great time for scammers to start creating and viewbotting a bunch of malicious tutorial videos, or for low-effort “content creators” to rip and rehash the same stolen content into a dozen different videos every day (or get even lazier and just run a script that will rehash those videos for them).", "Reddit is Fun is my main way to consume, with old reddit when I need it on desktop", "Linus did a video with that guy recently where the guy redeemed himself by doing the same build the right way. It wasn’t his fault at all, the verge forced him into that", "Missing the point entirely.", "Send feedback to youtube if you care enough about it?", "Like one of my college professors told me, \"Hey dummy - if you highlight every sentence in your textbook, then nothing is highlighted.\"", "Rebecca Blck", "I watch IT help videos often and I’ve never looked at the dislikes. Maybe most don’t comment but someone ALWAYS does.", "I don't care about that. I just don't like watching a garbage video. If I see a ton of comments that are negative, I know to bounce.", "i'm not so sure. hear me out.\n\nwe know that misinformation propagates through engagement - when the algorithm is trying to figure out what to serve you, it starts with whatever's getting a lot of engagement, via clicks and likes and comments and whatnot. but we also know that the algorithm can't tell the difference between positive engagement (\"what a great video! more people need to see this!\") and negative engagement (\"this video really pisses me off! i'm gonna leave a comment and link it to all my friends so they can see what bullshit it is!\"). we also know that clicking the dislike button on comments did absolutely nothing - it didn't alter the comment's score or make it less visible or anything. my guess is that the dislike count on a video was similarly useless in the algorithm's eyes, it was still serving up massively disliked videos because hey! engagement! and their hope is that by removing the dislike button, they're removing one of the incentives to engage with a video you don't actually want other people to see. \"don't feed the trolls,\" as they say, and that includes disliking their videos.", "Yeah the only links I'm following on YouTube are to websites I already know and trust like a creators Patreon, another YouTuber, or other similar things. Anyone who follows the random links to file downloads is just asking to get a virus", ">Are you saying we should wage wars on ideas like they did in the 1500’s?\n\nYou should wage war on ideas that will kill you. Otherwise those that enact them will, you know, kill you.", "HowToBasic just became the best cooking channel.", "That's true. But to say it's just because of \"every liberal media\" or \"because Joe Biden got his feelings hurt\" is just a bunch of crap. It's likely due to a number of various factors with trolls farms and/or bots being only part of the issue.", "Depends on the genre I find. It's kinda silly seeing ratios that make it look like raises in the minimum wage are highly disliked lol.", "Never thought about Discord like that, huh. That sucks.", "California is ranked #31: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate\n\nbasically you don't know anything", "White House videos where getting lots of dislike. Ratio'ed to hell. And baam", "the really gross thing is that because platforms are protected from litigation based on the content they host, youtube does absolutely fucking nothing about any of those videos. they claim they'll take them down, but they never do. ann reardon, a food scientist who debunks a lot of cooking hacks, tried to get them to take down a video that tells people soaking strawberries in bleach will give them white strawberries. which, technically it does, but they're obviously not edible at that point and the video never says \"DO NOT EAT BLEACHED STRAWBERRIES.\" there are some other videos involving putting stuff in the microwave that have sent kids to the hospital with 3rd degree burns, youtube won't take them down either. oh but hey some asshole in bangladesh can file a false copyright claim and your video's instantly gone unless you file a counterclaim thereby giving all your personal info to the asshole.", "Really most of the people that suffer a lot of dislikes are big companies. \n\nBig companies that secretly pay them were getting a ton of dislikes in there greedy advertisement videos. (EA & Nintendo) Also tv channels nobody likes anymore.", "Like how the late night talk shows and SNL are always \"trending\". Last week a Best buy commercial about a tv was in \"trending\". lol", "well that wasn't very profitable for them, so they had to get rid of it.", "Eh. I’m less worried about car repair videos and more worried about borderline racist videos with hudreds of likes.", "i'm guessing they couldn't figure out how to do that so they opted for turning off dislikes altogether.", "🔫", "I'm wondering if we can sue youtube if we follow a false guide", "What point exactly?\n\nYou literally said that removing dislikes is a change that can very quickly kill your service.\n\nI gave you an example of the most popular platform in the world which doesn't have any dislikes, literally disproving your point.\n\nYour point was just stupid. That's it.", "Shit i didn't think of that! I ALWAYS check the like ratio to see if the videos full of shit.", "There's a petition to bring it back if anyone wants to sign it.\n\n[https://www.change.org/p/bring-back-the-dislike-count-on-youtube](https://www.change.org/p/bring-back-the-dislike-count-on-youtube)", "The kid that uploaded it has 2.5 million followers and no other videos. Does he know he can become very wealthy overnight even if he throws up shit content?", "Cause YouTube is bastard man", "Yup- it’s like Dark Souls messages that tell you there’s a secret off the edge of a cliff.", "Oh my yes I actually love Ann Reardon, her videos led me to discover so many awful things about clickbait", "The idea is that it stops people from piling on the hate because they know it won't be embarrassing, and I think this might work. A youtuber I follow tweeted that compared to his other videos, he had a muuuch lower number of dislikes on his new video. Either way stupid thing to do.", "I think he's one of the founders of YouTube", "they have also many a time saved my lazy ass from doing something stupid in the pursuit of cake", "They should have a serious one about removing Google chrome because it's infected. See how long that lasts!", "To be a little fair, the comments section of YouTube has never been known for intelligent \"discourse\". Especially on news channels. Doesn't mean they need to go fully opaque and remove the dislikes too, though.", "I believe that's one of the original founders of youtube. I spoke to him on the phone a few years ago when when he inbounded to me inquiring about my companies data solutions. He was extremely unpleasant.", "Changing a service against the interests of users is what kills a service. Tik Tok is a completely different service based on completely different criteria. All of the services I mentioned suffered or died because of platform changes the user base didn't want. Again, you missed the point. Rather than asking for clarification you decided to insult me. Absolutely no need to be a dick.", "I mentioned this before but this is what the actual feedback button in YouTube is for guys let them know you wanna know if a tutorial or peice of information is crap or not. This is insane on their part YouTube is a search engine just as much as its a social media platform actually probably more so.", "Yeah, I just don't enjoy the way it feeds you video after video with no real insight into the mechanisms behind it. Too easy to doctor content", "no they did not just 4 months ago it was posted here because it had a 2k difference.", "I don't care how many upvotes it has, I don't watch Reddit video posts if they link to YouTube. It's so obvious the platform has become total garbage, much like Facebook, and I'd rather sit back and watch it die than consume its content and contribute to a slower, more painful decay.", "Since 2008, really, but things accelerated dramatically in 2011 when Occupy Wall Street got big interests to force us into this identity politics dystopia. You should check out the Google analytics around that time for things like race, racism, homophobia, etc. Shit skyrocketed far more than can be explained by anything I've considered, but I don't claim to be all knowing. It's just a really, really odd coincidence.", "I still can see dislikes, just gonna never update the app", "Atrocious decision", "no its because if they turn it off people KNOW they know its shit too. now they have the veil of \"we would if we couldddd\"", "I still have the dislike button. I have through this entire controversy. Maybe just a fluke that it hasn't rolled out for everyone? Maybe partly because I'm a long term viewer who hasn't abused it or something? Any better theories?", "I don't buy the logic.\nIt is as if someone said:\nI can't really be happy if there are no unhappy people.\nThe ability to see the positive without having a negative reference seems to be lost, as if our judgement needed crutches.\nPlus it is also following the logic of those who tell us that we should be happy, because there are people that have it worse than we do.\n\"You should be glad you only lost one eye!!\"", "Whitehouse.gov too, no matter what side of the political spectrum you're on", "Huh, it was my understanding that idle accounts were automatically purged after at certain time threshold of inactivity was surpassed. Unless it was changed recently, and now FB can automatically detect if the owner has died in real life and then reaches out to the kin to determine what is to be done with the deceased’s account.\n\nIf that’s not the case, then preserving the account requires some sort of manual intervention. Say, family logging into it and keeping up its activity, or perhaps the family reaching out to FB to preserve it as a memorial page. Otherwise, without intervention, I believe it would be purged.", "Cancel your premium, turn on adblockers. Lots of YouTubers expressing their dismay but stop short of saying this because it hurts their bottom line. But users need to protest enough to at least try to make a dent on YouTube’s revenue to show how unpopular it truly is. Or else nothing will change.", "You could do any of those things throughout the entirety of the pandemic. Literally the only inconvenience has been quarantines when going to certain states.", "There’s also the fact that creators already had the option to disable dislikes on an individual level. If this was about mental health they already had a solution in place.", "All tyrannical people want to control the narrative. It's because about 50% of the people believe what they see without any critical thought.", "I make tutorials. I'm adding a new section to the obligatory \"like of this helped you out\" section of the video that says something to the effect of \"if you disliked it share why in the comments.\" I only want to make things that actually help people, and while I can still see dislikes as a creator for now, I know my viewers can't.", "Sorry to bust your bubble but some people, like me, are not from the US, and are from countries that have had full lockdowns and we haven’t been able to see our friends or family. Tell me again, Fauci defender, was all of it worth it?", "Anne Riordan spends her time debunking those Russian content farms and this will make more people believe you can put nutella, a hot dog, and wax paper to make a tasty treat.", "They have to have some justification. \"We're censoring information\" is not a good one.", "Nopuzzlesnopuzzlesnopuzzles!", "Fauci what? It's AD ass kiss, wtf are you on about?", "It'd be the ratio of likes to dislikes, same as it is now. Just that now the dislikes will come from an outside source, and you'll have to just factor in that not everybody has the plugin.\n\nMy guess is that YouTube will recognize its folly, once they see people are willing to create their own substitute.", "Can't we just go off view count + likes?\n\n\nYeah, it's fucking horrible the dislike button is gone but if a video doesn't have a decent ratio than I'll just not watch the video. \n\nAlso, fuck YouTube, for the most part.", "I mean, it's also just not true.\n\nI eat a bar of chocolate and it tastes good. The good taste is because chocolate is good. The existence of brocolli is not a requirement for chocolate to be good.\n\nIf you're going to respond to this please don't get hung up on \"not everyone likes chocolate\" or something because that's not the point.", "Can you show a source indicating that \"best\" is just by ratio? My understanding was that it also weights by comment age - getting 10 up votes in 10 minutes getting sorted higher than getting 20 in an hour.", "Just remember. YouTube all started with a dick joke", "I agree that it's situational advice. You shouldn't that kind of logic to diminish someone's loss. \n\nThat said, if you wanted a better anology, it's more like you can't know what happiness is without knowing sadness.\n\nIt's true to an extent. For example, when I was younger and I first learned about depression, I distinctly remember thinking, why can't depressed people just think of things that make them happy when their down? Several years down the road I went through an actual depression myself and got the answer to that question.", "I very much doubt YouTube has any sort of control over this person's homebuilt API.", "Yes because people aren't going to click a broken button.", "I swear to god this world is so weird. I was JUST wondering last night \"I wonder what the oldest video on YouTube is\"", "Bring back pre 2012 YouTube", "Comments can be removed by the video author.", "Probably won't happen. Google has monopolized navigating the internet. Trying to overcome the massive advantage they now have is impossible. Behemoths like apple and Microsoft have failed trying to do it.", "Has this been in talks for a while? Or is it coincidentally being put in place...you know...due to that fact that every Biden/Pharma/Big Corp video has a 1:1000 like to dislike ratio and they are all salty about it...", "I have never seen a more disliked change in the history of the internet. I have yet to see a single person in favor of this anywhere. Pretty amazing that YouTube managed to unite us all.", "Are you shocked?", "At least as far as myspace goes, some very great researchers did indeed archive most (maybe all) of the music that was on the site some time before it was purged.", "Car repair videos are fucking awesome and way better than text in a forum. Telling me to do a thing and showing it are two different things.", "I wonder if you realize you're asking that on a major platform that has dislikes...", "They know it's disliked. But that's not public information, so they're ignoring the public's best interest.", "subscribed", "Dunno why you’re being downvoted. When you have the language in German, [the following description ](https://i.imgur.com/9lmEOkE.jpg) is shown, not the updated one.", "They just dont want our input, fb, yt tweeter are all going to go the way to media service vs participation. A two way voting system of likes dislikes is a very broken and manipulable counter. Just like on reddit dislikes drive the videos\\posts\\comments exposure down, but it doesnt mean the content or reply is any less viable. In fact this 2 way system is so corrupt it only takes a few bots to mass downvote content and burry it, or create doubt in its validity. \n\nI dont participate in this anyway, esp since 2016 since fake likes, upvotes, etc are all the rage and your opinion can br mass upvoted and downvoted all depending on which info bubble\\bandwagon you post it into. \n\nRemoving dislikes is irrelevant, as the likes are somewhat irrelevant. All this is is yt both conforming to all other social media options, and satisfying paid content providers as they dont want mass downvotes in social revolt lol", "They didn't really remove don't be evil though either...", "Not at all. They'd pin it on the video uploader.", "Counter example, if you haven't eaten food all day, that same chocolate tastes even better.\n\nOr, If all you've ever eaten is chocolate though it's neither good nor bad, it's just food.\n\nOr, conversely, once you eat Swiss Teuscher chocolate, your Hershey's bar tastes like cardboard. \n\nOr if you are forced to only eat chocolate for every meal, or if you were force fed it until you threw up, chocolate could become revolting for you. \n\nAll that to say, taste is a function of your experiences. Experience makes your opinions have weight. \n\nAlso, broccoli rocks! 😊🥦👍\n\nAlso not everyone likes chocolate! (ok I said that just to mess with you 😅)", "Well that's a problem, of course, but it only exists because Youtube is putting it in everyone's suggested videos regardless of what those people want to watch. If Youtube stopped doing that to people, that problem would go away nearly overnight.\n\nNow there's potentially life-saving information in there, and Youtube is I guess in some ways sort of akin to a public service, so it behooves them to try to get that information to people. But at the thirteen thousandth recommended video disliked, they might as well stop, because all it's going to do is anger those people that they have to see it over and over again and make them feel like they have to go on a dislike brigade crusade.\n\nHowever, Youtube clearly has high-dollar contracts with these news organizations, and so they're kowtowing to them instead, removing the dislike count so that they can continue to feed them to all users, and new users may not be apprised that these videos are nearly universally disliked.", "The irony of reddit, no?", "YouTube is dick farse", "I know what you mean... subreddits are banned all the time, every company and show wants users to pay for their content online that everyone used to just be able to find for free. it's so corporate. it's not what it used to be.", "no one complains when like bombed happens, but dislike bombed and the media starts painting it as a one sided affair like they're openly acknowledging the left being insane without telling us they're insane.", "I found this part interesting in their description \n\n>...among the flood of content, there are great creations waiting to be exposed. And for that to happen, the stuff that's not great has to fall by the side as quickly as possible. The process works, and there's a name for it: the wisdom of the crowds\n\nAnd what happens when bots control what is exposed and what is not. What good are likes or dislikes when the entire concept of the \"wisdom of the crowd\" is turned on its head.\n\nWhile it may have been an applicable idea on the internet at the beginning, no longer. Not on this platform anyway.\n\nThe algorithm decides. Not us.", "There’s also just going to be endless “like this comment to dislike the video” comments on every video", "If they are the only person racing, do they really win?\n\nYou need someone to lose for the win to really mean anything.", "YouTube is good for people. A little too good.", "Nah they wouldn't risk the blowback. It's been down voted for years and even the insanely senstive previous admin didn't do anything.\n\nEd: yep [they were literally planning this way back in 19](https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-attack-mob-review-bomb-creator-insider)", "Just dislike everything you watch and screw with their analytics", "Serious question - is there really another comparable alternative? There is just too much content on YouTube that makes finding a good option to not deal with this difficult/impossible", "You two haven’t even begun to peak.", "There are so many more indicators (features) of engagement than like/dislike, and honestly # likes / # views pretty much indicates the same thing. In this age of machine learning, they probably see dislikes as more costly to their community than rewarding to their algorithm, which is fine.", "Make is harder? Are you trying to say”make us harder”?", "Not for me.", "I’m confused as to what people are talking about the dislike button being removed or the counter being removed it’s still there on any video I watch", "BEAK !!!", "Getting rid of dislikes because the system can be abused is treating the symptoms and not the problem.\n\nThe whole platform suffers because they don't want to deal with the actual bad eggs using it. Just stifle everyone's voice and be done with it right?", "We'll make our own education medium! With blackjack tables and hookers!!", "Uh never should have been. If you're running random internet commands you already lost.", "lol you know as well as I do the good editors are few and far between these days", "A shitty blog listing the Epoch Times of all things as a source is pretty low lmao.\n\nEpoch times is literally known for their crappy, low-truth reporting.\n\nhttps://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-attack-mob-review-bomb-creator-insider\n\n2019", "Probably has something to do with Google being run by a shadow board, and the other two being run by Great Value versions of the founding criminals.", "You know damn right!", "Not super likely - more like advertisers.", ">They removed the dislike button because certain brands and politicians\n\nWe all know which ones right? I feel like Reddit likes to use \"politicians\" when it's Democrats, and always specifically name Republicans when the tables are turned. \n\nThe censorship in 2021 is Democrats.", "https://youtu.be/1uAH93tzfQY\n\nDislikes are still there so you can code them into a comment and sticky it", "Because I have eyes and can see that they’re doing a terrible job? By the way, you’re so ignorant that apparently you don’t know that everything the US does, it affects the rest of the world.", "YouTube people drastically convinced us text only forums are fine. Honestly. I'm for it. Fuck your shit", ">There is also this new weird trend of fake life hacks.\n\nThis is not new.\n\nPeople were convinced the new iPhone could bend.\n\nPeople before that were convinced you could charge the new model in a microwave. \n\nMix these two (deadly when combined) household cleaning chemicals and you can grow neat multicolored crystals!\n\nIt doesn't even take an idiot (eh) or an ignorant child- fucking Oprah, one of the wealthiest women alive, was tricked into saying \"they have over 9000 penises, and they're all raping children\" on prime time afternoon television.", "youtube is actually older", "You can still dislike something, but you can no longer see the ratio of likes to dislikes. Which means you can't easily see what the general consensus of the videos quality is.", "Reddit leans left, if you openly say Democrats, you get downvoted because \"Orange Man Bad\".\n\nAnd I do actually believe Orange Man was Bad. I just ALSO think Sleepy Man Bad.", "Reminder Google video failed so they bought YouTube.\n\nAnd oh did they make it grand", "More likely - advertisers videos getting blasted. Political videos have been downvoted forever, and even the delicate last admin didn't do anything there. \n\nAdvertisers on the other hand have been getting absolutely skewered lately and they are the customer of YT.", "The problem is certain propagandists pay YouTube a ton of money to spam everyone on the platform with their crap, and they don't like it when everyone dislikes their videos.", "> There's no way to get quick feedback of previous viewers.\n\nWhat about comments? I know it's not quick, but now it is all we have[?]", "I just...it makes me sad, it was kind of one of the last good major internet players (what with social media being so horrible privacy-wise and for you mental health).", "I don't care how much they push it I'm not paying for youtube premium.", "TRIVIA!!!", "when a system suppresses info that doesn't fit its agenda", ">\tThat’s not my fucking problem.\n\nSays every liberal on Reddit. Since you’re not the one that is dying in the streets because your Fauci prohibited people from working, you’re good. In fact, you’re great. \n\nAs long as you can jack off and order Uber Eats, you’re great…", "Even the new Reddit app...on my frontpage, it interjects crap from other subreddits for no reason.", "Loud angry neck beard noises only", "How am I supposed to know how commonly the sentiment in a single comment is shared? I can't see the like-dislike ratio of any comment, and I can't survey all of the comments, and the top comments aren't necessarily representative of everyone.", "Oh what bullshit, even if it is the now popular circlejerk on right wing places.\n\nTrump also has extreme polarity and even his delicate admin did nothing.\n\nPlus, they aren't the customer and likely aren't stupid enough to risk backlash. This sounds 100% like advertisers (you know, the customers of YT?) are upset they are getting trashed when they put out bad content.\n\nEd: literally planned since 2019 but you blame Biden what a joke. \n\nhttps://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-attack-mob-review-bomb-creator-insider", "Did it really though. CN you show me where you were impacted", "Anything in the internet should be taken as fake. You can read the spec sheets though", "The lack of downvotes is probably why Facebook and Instagram content is so bad and useless.", "Exactly. So even though the creator sees the dislikes, this will definitely reduce the dislikes. In that sense, this change works. In the sense of being a good thing, it doesn't", "Everyone seems to hate YouTube. I'm eagerly awaiting the day that someone takes over in that space with something much better.", "Oh please. Your dumbass users are going to click no matter what. \n\n\nThis is a weird bravado to act like you care for them.", "Which will be deleted by shitty creators.", "Except the dislike button, and count are still there, and still visible... so.......", "So trust random internet video but not comments. K", "Somebody is going to make a browser extension that will let at least its users downvote videos again.", "I’ve worked as well. As I told in one of my first comments, I want lockdowns to end because I want to travel and visit my friends or family. \n\nYou know, like a real life, right? Not the one you just work and then lockdown in your home? (assuming you have a home, because like you described, it’s not your fucking problem if someone has different problems) \n\nYou know, like a life before 2019, where we didn’t lockdown because of a virus with 99.8% survival rate? It’s been two years. \n\nWonder what’s gonna happen if a virus with a survival rate of 98% appears? Man, they’ll lock us down for 20 years, if not more. And people like you will be applauding it and wanting more lockdowns. And you people will defend Fauci or whatever new idiot is in charge now. And when people complain that they can’t work or see their family (see: Australia), you’ll just say:\n\n>\tThat’s not my fucking problem.", "Why dont we just boycott youtube. Im gonna cancel my premium and switch to other platforms if this change isnt vetoed", "But the constant would vary a lot between videos/ genres depending on engagement. No?", "A lot more safe to promote a product or service when you know you won't get review-bombed", "You don’t care about other people? Right! You only care about yourself. \n\n>\tThat’s not my fucking problem. \n\nWhy the fuck did you lockdown then?\n\n>\tNobody here is locked down in their houses. \n\nA lot are! Open a newspaper and see what’s going on around the world. Australia, Germany, Canada. You name it. Just because it’s not happening to you doesn’t mean it’s not happening. \n\nBut you want more lockdowns… but you don’t care about others… Liberals. Don’t ever change.", "It removes the incentive for people to flood a video with alts or bot dislikes hoping it'll make other people click away without watching. Yes, someone doing that to every video you release is going to be very tough on your mental health.\n\nThere are far too many racist and bigoted assholes that target LGBTQ+ or BIPoC context creators.", "YouTube just announced they are no longer relevant. The fad has passed.", "> My guess is that YouTube will recognize its folly, once they see people are willing to create their own substitute.\n\nWouldn't bet the farm on this. The majority of people don't use PCs to watch YouTube.", "Democracy is not an applicable concept on the internet. Not anymore. (Some may say it's not really applicable in reality either, but I digress...)", "When is this change effective? Because I still see dislikes.", "I mean, was that working? YouTube serves up videos it thinks you'll like. So if there's some deep cut insane conspiracy video that only gets shown to people who already believe Biden eats babies, is that video going to have a high dislike rate?", "One is bigger and growing the other is well, fox news bait.", "I just realized I'm getting old, 2005 was like yesterday to me I was driving and smoking and being an asshole.", "Computer problems were the ones that did it for me. I know that the rule of thumb is to never trust a video that has \"Download \\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_ file\". But, on that rare occasion where downloading a specific file actually helps, it will be next to impossible to tell now.", "Correct, it’s not your fucking problem.", "You seem like an anime watching mouth breather...go on though with your rhetoric.\n\nAnd by one stupid decision what do you mean?", "I've assumed this is about protecting creators from bots and vote farms.\n\nI work on a service that has millions of users and we spend massive amounts of time and money fighting abuse, hackers using scripts and bot farms. The best defense is to give abusers as little information as possible.\n\nYouTube has billions of users. If attackers can use bot farms to push their content up and other content down they can make huge amounts of money.\n\nIf you shut abusive users' accounts down, they know you're on to them, sign up again, find new ways to attack. If they spam dislikes on a video and you quietly don't count them, abusers know you've caught them and try new ways to get their votes counted until they see votes going up. If you give them no information, no feedback about whether their attacks are working, they give up.", "Also close off comments so users can't even check the comments for validity of the video.", "If YouTube cared about small content creators then they would try to promote then more. And disable comments. Keep the dislike count.", "How the hell am I going to know if the video will help me fix my problems or not? A video with Hella downvotes usually means the method doesn't work.", "By the way, all of this was because I complained that because of lockdowns I cannot travel and see my friends and family. Something that’s affected me personally. That’s why I complained. The only thing that you did was downvote me, and, since it doesn’t affect you but me, the only thing that you could say to me was:\n\n>\tThat’s not my fucking problem. \n\nWell, guess what. It IS my fucking problem. And I’ll complain about this if I want to. Unless you ban me because I’m complaining? Like they’ve done elsewhere in Reddit? Like they deleted the downvote count on YouTube? Because people are sick of this stupidity?\n\nNice to hear that when I complain about something that affects me, all I get is that it’s not some random person’s problem.", "Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if creators made the comments themselves. It redirects pushes of the dislike button to a like on a comment. Artificially inflating the like:dislike ratio, and registering as all positive engagement.", "Well, think of a way it can be, without selling your private information or crazy amounts of advertisements.", "FWIW, using YouTube Vanced on mobile still show dislikes.", "What?", "Well, I take the downvoting part back. The comment you made, however, still stands.", "Good question, I decided to take a look at the script and see how it works.\n\nWhat it does is pull the deprecated `averageRating` floating-point variable on YouTube from the days when videos were 5 stars and `LIKES((5-RATING)/(RATING-1))`s it, which gives you an accurate dislike number. Like, it only stops being accurate in the millions of views/likes. If YouTube doesn't get rid of this variable when they disable pulling dislikes from the API, which is unlikely considering that YouTube stopped using the star system more than 12 years ago, then this script will continue to work.\n\nSo, basically, they have a constant, they 1-n it, and they multiply the number of likes by it to get a nearly perfectly accurate dislike number for any video, even if downvote bombed.", "Gonna copy a comment I just wrote in a different chain. \nI do agree with your logic, though, so I decided to take a look at the script and see how it works.\n\nWhat it does is pull the deprecated `averageRating` floating-point variable on YouTube from the days when videos were 5 stars and `LIKES((5-RATING)/(RATING-1))`s it, which gives you an accurate dislike number. Like, it only stops being accurate in the millions of views/likes. If YouTube doesn't get rid of this variable when they disable pulling dislikes from the API, which is unlikely considering that YouTube stopped using the star system more than 12 years ago, then this script will continue to work.\n\nSo, basically, they have a constant, they 1-n it, and they multiply the number of likes by it to get a nearly perfectly accurate dislike number for any video, even if downvote bombed.", "Just today I looked up on how to install an Ikea shelf. In the first video I looked up the woman installed the shelf bracket upside-down. If the dislike count was still there I would have known immediately that it wasn't a good source for how to install that shelf.", "It's absolutely horrible. Won't comment on design but it's slow, heavy and buggy as hell. You literally can't scroll for shit if you don't have a really good computer. I can't use it on my laptop due to this while anything else (and old Reddit) works just fine.", "I have an extension that uses the YouTube API to put ratings just below videos so I can look at the thumbnails and don't have to click on the video to see the rating. It helps me save a ton of time and clicking to find the videos I need. \n\nNow YouTube revoked API access of their dislike count, which breaks my extension :(\n\nYouTube has been generally hostile to creators of extensions that do this. There were extensions that worked long before the one I'm currently using now, but were nuked by YouTube. This was a war they were always fighting.", "Problem is that those go at it from a top-down issue; something born out of the desire for control from those in power (1984 moreso than BNW). MGS2 is stating that we will willingly put ourselves into these small, closed off subcultures and therefore stop growing as people. Along with that, it is arguing that the issue isn't that there is insufficient stimulation for growth, but that there is too much of it going around that almost everyone will need to withdraw into a shell just to survive the information overload. Finally, it is arguing that an over-arching authority that can see all facets of everything; that can parse through all the deluge of information; that can decide what truth is best for humanity is not only desired, but a necessity for humanity's survival, and that the only thing capable of doing so is not a person or even an entire society, bit an AI.", "That plus media companies lying to their consumers faces and having to deal with \"official\" videos that have 99.9% dislike ratios.", "Tons of people \"misclicked\" the downvote button on every single covid video? Wow!", "Stop, children, what's that sound?\nEveryone's dislike bar goin' down.", "At least the kid’s phone will be dead, so he won’t be able to view YouTube.", "i.reddit still works, soo...\n\nThey don't care though. They know the older users will continue to use old.reddit. \n\nNewer users are mostly on mobile using the official reddit app. They want to make it into a social media platform, more akin to facebook with profile pictures and all that jazz. old.reddit doesn't even show up reddit avatars, and that's by design.", "There literally is no radical left.\n\nSuburban \"centrist\" Wine moms are a bigger supporter of mass censorship than any of the 2 remaining leftists in the USA.", "The reaction to Ghostbusters 2016 is pretty much what I can think of as to what prompted them to do this. Advertisers are probably pointing the dislike button as a pain point against uploading their promotional material on Youtube.", "This is it right here", "Since when are views on vaccines a \"radical left\" thing? Most centrist democrats, which are the ones in power, are the ones implementing strict rules. You cannot just call anything you like as \"actions by the radical left\".", "Wow. Really good stuff in that description.\n\n\"Nothing can be good if nothing is bad\"", "Youtube is going to be the new Facebook watch", "That sub only shows the information, not the names. How is spreading awareness of the dangers of Covid a fucked up thing to do?", "How come I still have a dislike button?", "Ahh yes\n\nThe Amazon strategy...", "When does cooperate America care about mental health?", "I think I'd get I bullet if I tried and actually got anywhere, literally or figuratively. Don't matter which. But to that brave soul out there that maybe does one day get somewhere, godspeed to you.\n\nHow does one even begin to take on that monster. Start up would get squashed so fast. Denied capital. Take on partners. Maybe be lucky enough to get bought out, sign an NDA and then shelved like so many other products that could threaten the status quo. \n\nGod help us.", "i hate understanding this", "The people down voting you are lying and they know it.", "No, I think it's manipulation of children. Just seeing the positive and not the negative will have them watching whatever and more often.", "Most views would still be problematic because you need to watch the garbage content first before learning that's it's useless.... which will count as a view.... which will mean you've watched an ad..... which will mean more money for YouTube because now you need to repeat this process until you find what you're looking for.", "Damnit! My high mind had it right!!!", "Am I missing something? I can still see dislikes just fine", "You can also argue the opposite. Political narrative is/can be controlled by state actors using the like/dislike ratio.", "r/unexpectedIASIP", "This is my theory, but basically the reason they're doing this is because the like/dislike ratio was probably a massive pain point for advertisers and they may have started using this as a haggling point against Youtube in the process, case in point being [Ghostbusters 2016](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36191146#:~:text=The%20promo%20for%20the%20new,with%20about%20220%2C800%20%22likes%22.), [Call of Duty Infinite Warfare](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36257147), and [Youtube Rewind 2018](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_Controls_Rewind), with the last one having to be outright discontinued due to it's infamy. Youtube Rewind 2018 was Youtube's attempt to look marketable to brands, and how it ended up being severely downvoted made them look bad in the process since people weren't that dumb to see what Youtube's agenda actually was for it.\n\nEvery change Youtube has done has always been for money, and this one is no different.", "I'm type 1 diabetic. Tons of diabetics look up content on YouTube due to how complicated the illness can be to manage on a daily basis. \n\nSome of that content on YouTube is flat out lethal if you actually followed the advice. Like \"take 20 ie insulin when changing your pump\" (don't btw - it could easily kill you). Literally deadly advice. Easily avoidable when you see the huge amount of dislikes. \n\nGuess we just have to guesstimate how trustworthy the creator of a video is now...", "Having the like and dislike bar is stupid already, just get rid of it like how it was before the whole star system crap.", "Yes, and the creator has expressed that they're working on mobile solutions. Either way, even if \"the majority\" aren't, this downvote brigade YouTube is supposedly protecting against certainly might.", "They're not stupid, this is a smart move for them. They just come off stupid because there's nothing they can say to make this look right.", "But creators can disable comments entirely.", "YouTube is shit", "What specifically is wrong with Reddit, in your eyes?", "A lot of bots in here seem really upset that they’re going to lose their ability to control the narrative of on going issues by controlling the like/dislike ratio. Go check out videos relating to Covid-19 on Canadian news channels on YouTube and you’ll see this in action. This is a somewhat shitty but absolutely necessary change, society cannot keep using simple and/or manipulatable signals to determine trust in an information source.", "So YouTube finally lifts a finger to help some \"smaller creators,\" and this is what it came up with.", "Is there any platform that isn't the same price as a streaming channel a month? I don't want to pay money to support random videos. I'd prefer a system where I could watch videos and use Patreon to support the creators I actually want to support. And also a platform that still allows random people to upload, not just expert-curated creators.\n\nI see that it used to be possible to bundle with CuriosityStream which I already pay for, but don't see that option anywhere now.", "That may be a small part of it but it certainly was to protect entities YouTube wants to look good that are currently incredibly unpopular like the current White House residence.", "If that was true then he wouldn't have been shit talking all the people pointing out his mistakes", "You forgot his tweezers.\n\n(They were actually zip ties.)\n\nHe was butchered in editing, too. Things were shown completed in the case that hadn't been done yet. It was a mess.", "Assuming people don't disable comments.", "What is stopping someone from making basically an exact copy of YouTube, but less shit?", "sponsorblock is going to add it sometime in the future", "What in the fuck are you on about?\n\nHow does the loss of the dislike button suddenly mean there's no competition?", "I wonder what Aaron Swartz would say", "> I saw a youtube short the other day that was a life hack for charging a phone\n\nI remember the articles from years past about morons that saw a fake life hack video that went viral concerning how putting your iPhone in a microwave will charge it to full in seconds if you just tweak certain features to turn on that capability.\n\nSurprise surprise, these people bitched and moaned about how their phone was fucked and their warranty didn't cover that sort of damage.", "No that is wrong. \n\nIt is still legit to this point: Currently there are 571.745 likes and 571.733 dislikes. I am lucky enough to be able to still see the counts, wonder when they will remove that for me as well", "no they didnt", "Time to add \"Like this comment to Dislike this video.\" comments to every video.", "Just go watch the Linus video with him in it", "They’re trying to counteract others control of the political spectrum, not the other way around.", "I always said, if you need a reminder not to do evil then maybe there's already something wrong.", ">There literally is no radical left.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI mean, that's just patently false. And I say that as a heavy liberal. There absolutely is a \"radical left\". To think otherwise is rather dangerous to further discourse and disingenuous. Is it as effective/mainstream/widespread as a lot of the alt/radical right? Certainly does not appear so, no. But come on now, you can't say it straight doesn't exist at all.", "Youtube comments became a giant cesspool around the time comment dislikes were hidden. Folks coming into the comment section see nothing but validation of the most insane stuff you can imagine.", "This is not the case. Comments are analyzed by machine learning algorithms that detect sentiment. See something similar from Microsoft within their azure cognitive services suite.", "needs tons and tons of server and very complex network and data structures and whatever. way too expensive if you arent already the biggest", "yikes to this comment", "best idea would not taking medical advice from yt", "That's just to keep us from downvoting YouTube rewind this year", "It’s actually a loss for misinformation. Do you not realize that dislikes can also be controlled? And they have WAY more influence on people than likes. Consider the common belief that we focus on the negative, and not the positive.", "I am not sure if I trust less to videos with no dislike count or people that fix cars but learned it from youtube.", "Seems like a pretty bad way to have a conversation, insulting some dude like that. Maybe try to view online discourse similar to IRL conversations and don't just belittle people like that?", "sponsorblock is currently developing that", "https://youtu.be/KH4NrUxcsYs", "Youtube is helping promote misinformation. We all need to contact our elected officials about this. Regardless of what party they are, I'm sure they will be interested.", "The craziest part is that he still had access to account he created 16 years ago. \nPeople will whine about this whole dislike count thing and in the end will accept it as sheeple they are. Corporations do stuff like that all the time and they always get away with it.", "For now", "Something that advertisers and Youtube also likes. More people watching crap videos, more opportunity for ad revenue.", "Ad money. Now when you encounter a crap video, you don't know (especially if the video creator censors comments) so you will watch it and possibly watch an ad or two.", "Why do abusers even care about dislike count? Bots and vote farms are primarily used to manipulate the relative popularity of videos. \n\nRandomizing the search result order would be more effective than hiding vote count.\n\nI'd go so far as to say these tactics: shadow bans and vote suppression should be illegal. Mistakes will be made and real users will be targeted by this as they are on reddit. It's very easy to tweak the algo to shadow-ban those with a certain viewpoint with slightly higher probability and thus steer public discourse.", "> Anyone who follows the random links to file downloads is just asking to get a virus\n\nSeniors don't know any better, neither do children. This shit preys on the vulnerable who are definitely not asking to get a virus", "Comments are my go to for repairs if it helped me I always leave a review or critique", "They have what is basically a monopoly, they don't care.", "Corporations don’t like paying for ~~ads~~ announcements and having them get thumbed-down to oblivion. \n\nSee: Nintendo’s online expansion pack announcement for a recent example", "Literally what mainstream figure could you possibly even consider \"the radical left\"? \n\nYeah, in other countries there are some people. Like I'd say the Maoist PLA in the Phillipines are part of the radical left. In America, the most radical it gets is \"maybe we should be more similar to literally every other developed nation\".", "Since I don't want to engage with really stupid YouTube comments I just removed that section of YouTube and I don't see it.", "Again, another person not realizing the dislike button is being utilized to do the exact thing you’re saying removing it will cause. Are you really so naive to believe that state actors don’t bot farm dislikes on videos like the Fauci documentary to control political narrative?", "Install adblock", "Fuck, I though I was the only one….\n\nOld.Reddit is just so much more clean.", "Didn't they do that with posts? Before it was a balance of upvotes and downvotes, now it's just the number of times it's been voted on. That's why you never see top posts from years ago anymore. At least that's how I always thought it was", "Expect more censorship in the future. This won't stop unless the government does something or if someone manages to actually make a competitor website.", "It’s just salty bots that are pissed because now they won’t be able to control political narrative by bot farming dislikes on videos. This is a signal that humans trust absolutely, and we cannot educate the masses to not treat it as such.", "How do I even go about doing this on mobile?", "Im dumb. Why likes and dislikes buttons are important? I don’t click any of the buttons unless i clicked it accidentally.", "Interesting.", "Exactly, people seem to overstate how inaccurate the “fuzzing” made things. Taking your example, the fuzzing algorithm would never take a random comment that literally only had two downvotes and display it as +152/-154, numbers that high were only comments with legitimately high engagement.", "Quit with your bullshit. If we were using the universe as a frame of reference, sure. But there are also other frames of reference", "yikes to your brand new Reddit account", "I'll never understand why most people continue to believe that the internet is some kind of permanent storage system. It's not like there's actually a virtual cloud with all this info on it. It's all just sitting on other people's computers. Computers that cost them money and maintenance to keep running.\n\nThe internet is the most transient storage system mankind has ever made. It takes constant energy to keep it up. At least you can forget a photo album in a basement for 100 years. Try doing that with a ssd.", "It's almost never that clear. What if it's 1 million views and 60,000 likes? Is that a lot? A little? Is it a particularly high or low engagement kind of video? Is it overwhelmingly positive, overwhelmingly negative, or controversial? There's no way to know without studying the kinds of likes that similar videos get and establishing a pattern, and praying that no funny business occurs.", "> The most popular channels- PewDiePie or Marques Brownlee, will have a dozen dislikes\n\nI assume that they'd scale it up accordingly. For example, if the video has 1,000 likes, and users of the extension gave it 50 likes and 25 dislikes, then perhaps they'll assume the video should have 500 dislikes or something along those lines. \n\nIt still wouldn't necessarily be completely accurate since the users of the extension probably aren't representative of the overall Youtube population.", "Which is funny, because this is supposedly to prevent the spread of crap. Supposedly YouTube has “legit” research that shows that the more down votes something has the more likely it is to spread. It’s “supposed” to counteract virality of propaganda. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 \n\nCause having only positive feed back is gonna stop Armageddon", "It's bad enough that scammers can already disable comments, so disliking a video was basically the only thing you could do. Reporting a video almost never gets anything done.", "How do I make another video-sharing platform? I don't care if I'm not well known. I rather just make it for people who want to watch good content. However, you don't get paid for your videos based on subscriber counts, and the moment I consider ads is the moment I shut the site down. Monetization of videos will not exist on my site. It's just purely for watching. I'll probably just use a donation link for server money because that's never cheap.", "That's the sick part. \n\nYou can make good argument that dislikes on Reddit and YouTube is generally a bad idea. \n\nIts extremely harder to make the same case about hiding it for public only and still give people the tool to use it. \n\nAnd still use it to tinker algorithms.", "Like you said, most don't comment. Couple of negative comments means nothing. Even on the best tutorials, there's always people who can't follow instructions. Like to dislike ratio is the only way to judge how good a tutorial is for most people not just for those who got mad the solution didn't work because they fast forwarded past some critical information.", "Of course, but if 230 goes away…🤦🏻‍♀️\n\nHave a feeling this will backfire in Alphabet’s face when Congress finally looks at 230 in 2022. Because they can’t ever seem to get it right.", "I don't understand why they can't just have it as an option. If you get attacked by mass dislikes then turn it off on that video or smth. And seeing as how it is clearly just to protect companies just have them be able to turn it off. Why does it need to be universal??", "My knee jerk….\n\nEVERYTHING IS AWESOME 🎶", "There are Chromium browsers for Android with full extension support too. I use Kiwi Browser for example, along with a system level VPN for adblocking.", "I use the same things, with an addition: YT Music in browser stopped responding to my media keys, so I replaced that chrome window with a modded YTM app I found through discord. Came with built in adblock, sponsorblock, and even discord rich presence", "This sounds like a job for Bob and his tank.", "I don’t know I just literally never had a problem with ignoring the dislikes", "Shorts are cancer IMO BTW", "Pushback from large corps having their shitty promos dislike bombed.", "Except that's only comparing the whole against the whole. Everyone is still \"super\" as super was originally comparing their new powers to \"human.\" There could exist powers that are still better than others, a super-super.", "Yep, anything involving tips could be a total fraud...this was a very bad decision and hopefully will be reversed soon. People will get scammed, people will literally get hurt from this shit, it's not acceptable.", ">How about they hide it by default but let you turn it on in the settings?\n\nThis is what a thoughtful company that cares about its average creators (not fucking Vevo) would do, it's the much logical and reasonable way to placate the corporations, but of course they're going for the full reach-around. It's pretty clear YouTube doesn't give a shit about creative control at all for Youtubers anymore.", "But HamsterDance coin is up 600% during this video to fix your dryer. Don't be salty!", "Or [thinking this is the actual way to make an old fashioned.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lf4qFL9nGU&ab_channel=ResistanceFrequencies)", "That was part of their complaint, that dislikes were not reflecting the quality of the video, but whether you agreed with it's agenda or not. But those videos usually have the context within the video that will explain why it's controversial vs low-quality. Not being able to see dislikes will hurt engagement, without a doubt. I'm sure I'm not the only Youtuber who likes a trainwreck sometimes: a majority-dislike video can be very illuminating 😄", "There's a really great South Park episode that addresses this. Cartman gets \"emotionally hurt\" by negative comments on stuff he posts online (even when he's asking for it, like posting himself in just his underwear, asking if people think he's buff). PC Principal, who is all about being PC in case the name didn't give it away, knows exactly what to do. Should Cartman stop posting stuff that might get some negative comments? Should he learn to brush off internet bullshit? No, because the PC way these days is all about creating safe spaces. People should have the right to post whatever they want, but should also have the right to not see anything that could possibly hurt their fragile feelings.\n\nEventually Butters, one of the most bullied characters, is the only one who doesn't say no when told by the principal that he needs to filter out all the negative comments on all of Cartman's posts. This is such a demanding job that it almost kills Butters. Cartman, meanwhile, is as happy as ever, stoked about the one or two nice comments he gets while never even knowing about the litany of negative comments. A very out of shape and emotionally fragile Steven Seagal also benefits from Butters filtering out negative comments on all of his social media posts.\n\nThe really scary thing is this episode aired just over half a fucking decade ago.\n\nI am absolutely a huge mental health advocate too, but this stuff doesn't address real mental health issues. If you're feeling suicidal because people thumbs downed your YouTube video, the issue is not that YouTube allows thumbs down.\n\nAs other comments here have pointed out, though, YouTube is doing this so that sponsored content doesn't get thumbs downs. It's just a profit thing that they're disguising as an altruistic move in the interest of mental health. Are any of us surprised?\n\nEdit: I just have to add that the duet Cartman and Seagal share is a particular standout in this episode. They sing about living in glass houses with bulletproof windows and troll-safe doors.", "Seriously. Imagine what reddit would look like without the downvote button", "Depends on how many people are pissed off about not being able to see dislikes...it could certainly be diffuse enough to be a representative sample. People installing the extension would almost certainly be more engaged in regularly rating videos compared to people who dont care as much about a dislike bar. Regardless, I'd rather have an inaccurate dislike bar than nothing at all...Youtubers should not be accepting this change, it's damaging to the platform's longterm viability.", "They did that through the request of fake news msm groups to be able to push more fake news freely.", "Can you elaborate on why you think so? I thought he made some good points about the importance of being able to discern content from the user's pov.", ">Any guides on anything\n\nshit, that's what I've been doing,\n\nNever paid attention to the likes...", "Not sure if bigger imapact.\n\nIT tutorials are everywhere, especially written, but specific mechanical guides are more likely to be limited to yt", "There is a \"mechanic\" with almost 2 billion views on his videos who tells people to repair their brakes with a part that is damaged by the fluid that makes them work. He also goes underneath cars that aren't supported properly. That man probably has blood on his hands, even if he doesn't know it.", "I think the bigger Reddit crime was inflating votes.\n\nSometime around 2016 they made top-tier posts go from a score of ~5,000 to ~20,000.\n\nSo now when you go to a sub and sort by top, it's heavily skewed to content from the last 5 years.\n\nAnd there were some FUNNY posts in 2014.", "Literally the first paragraph is \"they kept this dude hostage and forced him to say these stupid things\"", "Shit man, that makes it hella attractive.\n\nI hear there's too many power-hungry mods here.\n\nAnd you can't even join, it's like a closed club.", "Shows good videos vs bad videos", "If by myriad you mean \"ratio\" than sure 😂 otherwise you should provide specifics, because I find Twitter to be chaos when it comes to sorting the good from the bad and the ugly. \n\nAlso, Twitter and YouTube are totally different platforms. Twitter is effectively a giant texting chain. YouTube is a video library, and thus had a lot more influence on its users, since it can explore a lot more topics and go deeper than anything on Twitter (nobody is watching 2 hour video posts on Twitter, not really). People don't go on Twitter to learn how to repair their car or their computer, for example.\n\nFalse (and highly disliked) videos on these topics could lead to disaster and death if not scrutinized carefully. Now instead of giving users a quick way to suss out \"sus\" content, they'll be forced to pour over the comments section carefully to verify the information, and barring a concensus in the comment section, seek other videos to confirm.", "Did you read my comment fully, or did you just stop at the first line? I literally said it wasn't mainstream in the 5th sentence. But to act like it doesn't exist at all is unequivocally wrong.", "That would likely require a 3rd party app that runs through YouTube's API. They exist but they tend to be pretty clunky and crash-proned.", "Oh man, I was only 18 years old when the first YouTube video happened..", "Nothing they’ve done for awhile has really “improved” anything. Just changes to change things. One of the silliest things I’ve seen is changing the video quality tab to be more labor intensive to use when it used to be just two button presses to get what you want.\n\n\n\nEdit: speaking of mobile btw", "I found that comparison weird as well, but I don't think that invalidates everything below", "I don't understand the dislike thing, it's the exact same for me on every platform I use YouTube on", "There is an intent somewhere in the corporate structure of YouTube and Reddit to make both of those websites a promotional tool. But that goes against their very utility.\n\nWhen everything is beautiful, nothing is beautiful. And you can't pad the middle with astroturf.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9RBDxgZasU", "But there's a massive benefit to extensions like those in that the people who even dig them up have overlapping interests (and thus subscriptions). When looking for bad content odds are it's off the beaten track a bit, and getting enough people there to rate it is unlikely.", "Evil grows out of an ever evolving entity's misconceptions and incompetence. Evil happens by mistake.\n\nWhereas goodness always requires comprehension and compassion to be effective. Purpose requires good intent.", "youtube is just worried about the youtube rewind dislikes from last two years. lmao XD", "Hey all third dozen of us are here", "There are literally communities on Reddit that idolize communism and say shit like „we should hang all rich people.“", "I can disable a terrible feature a paid service is forcing on their customers against their will? Well, problem solved - Netflix is great again!\n\nYou deserve a medal! I'm sure a shill will be by shortly to give one to you.", "All I know, I miss seeing the like/dislike ratio.", "Keep up the pressure on YouTube people. We cannot let this change go through. Its entirely rooted in business and will lower awareness for the public about the content they’re watching.\n\nKeep the pressure on and YouTube will have to cave.", "Nah it’s because of all the dislikes the White House channel is getting.", "Not sure what are you so angry about.\n\nYou complained about a feature. I said that you can disable it in the settings, which would solve your problems.\n\nWhat a little angry snowflake. Fucking God.", "Now youtube videos will fall into the same useless, meaningless pit as Yelp reviews (useful! Cool! Funny!) and Facebook (Like button!). You need the negative driver for the negative feedback loop, for checks and balances. Otherwise you literally have a positive feedback loop which leads to no discernible trust or legitimacy.", "Goes like this.\n\n1. Shut down accounts. They register new accounts.\n1. Let them vote, but don't count the votes. They can now probe to see when votes are counted.\n1. Count votes, but don't use those votes in ranking videos. Internet whines about how top ranked videos can have so many downvotes. Here's your magical shadow ban, I assume. It's not a magic bullet.\n\nI don't work on YT, but if it isn't clear, I've been through this shit enough to recognize it.", "And even then, I'd say a vast majority of users would dislike a video over commenting. Now you're actively encouraging people to post negative comments.\n\nI'd be very curious to see if/how many negative comments occur due to this change. Say it's like 10%, that's a lot of extra mental health issues.", "That's not true at all. People with the same medical issues can be paramount to helping others with it too. You should talk to a doctor but if it's something simple, there is no need.\n\n\nYou can say the same for any advice or tutorial channels. Car repairs, home DIY, electrical equipment, etc. I've used youtube to better understand a problem I have by being able to see it from a different perspective and possibly read comments or hear from the uploader to get more ideas to solve the problem.", "The democrats are certainly a right wing party apart from a few prominent left wingers on the fringes", "Tbf, that iPhone could bend.", "And YouTube will slowly die", "If he relly wanted to make a statement he would private it", "I won't use reddit any other way. If they kill old.reddit I'm off. I don't know where I'll go but I hate the standard new reddit layout with a passion. Sometimes I stumble into the new UI and think it's just a hideous pile of ugly annoying shite.\n\nI don't use Facebook or twitter and I don't want this place to be anything like that.", "If that's true, it might be the dumbest thing YouTube has done, and they did Rewind 2018.", "You might be surprised. SponsorBlock manages to get in-video ads marked on even pretty obscure channels within minutes of upload.\n\nThe thing about likes and dislikes (or upvotes and downvotes for that matter) is that it's really the first initial \"seed\" votes that make all the difference. Generally people tend to follow trends and as such the ratio stabilizes before most of the audience even submits their input.\n\nSure the raw values won't be accurate but I would expect the ratio to be pretty close.", ">Watching Matt Koval's announcement about the removal of dislikes, I thought something was off. The spoken words did not match the eyes. The video reminded me of an interview Admiral Jeremiah Denton gave in 1966. I have never seen a less enthusiastic, more reluctant announcement of something that is supposed to be great.\n\nI find it a bit cringe to try and psychoanalyze Matt Koval in the announcement video. Matt is just the messenger from youtube, he's not the person who made the decision.", "I disagree, you can simply not engage in things you don't like and things that are liked will still get more votes", "This is the truth. Critical thinking diminished further and further…", "I can't figure out how to view comments on threads on new reddit. Its an incredibly frustrating experience. So glad old still exists. I definitely wouldn't use reddit regularly if it didnt.", "That is absolutely dangerous and I can homestly consider you a bad person for even suggesting something like that. People are dying", "Which is stupid. I found a 30 second potato quality video that showed me how to troubleshoot my cars horn with 2,000 views and had like 1500 likes and 4 dislikes. And I fixed my horn in like 5 minutes. The most viewed video on the issue was 17 minutes long and had nowhere near that like to dislike ratio. I would've spent more time watching the popular video than it took to watch the better one and fix it. It's so dumb.", "My dad used to say, “pretty is as pretty does.” looks fade, so if your looking long term, pick the one that treats you nice.\n\nIronically, I read a study that men (on average) don’t cheat because the “other woman” is prettier. The are attracted to the way the other woman makes them feel desired. \n\nBut I won’t say go for ugly. Maybe plain. Plain can transform to attractive if the chemistry is there. But if you truly find someone ugly, that’s a bigger leap.", "It’s because Joe Biden is a diaper wearing invalid 🤷‍♂️", "Nope, they’re removing the ability to access dislike count via the YouTube Data API specifically for this reason. Any third party plugins showing dislikes would be dependent on this.", "old.reddit.com with RES installed. Fuck that new UI bullshit, I'll never change!", "“Does YouTube want to become a place where everything is mediocre?”\n\nYes, yes it does, and it is actively doing so. YouTube wants to be the modern cable TV, the 21st’s century’s de facto broadcaster. To do that, they need money, and truckloads of it.\n\nThis is the cycle of media. It starts as independent, small content, gains some social influence, catches the attention from rich and influential groups, gets an infusion of cash, becomes overwhelmed the the money, pushes any and all messages desired by the backing interests, and is finally usurped and replaced by the next up-and-comer. \n\nThe same cycle over and over again. Printing press, book publishers, newspapers, broadcast television, cable TV, internet news, and now internet video, the same old mistakes redone time and time again.\n\nHow do we solve this?", "Oh? So you like having video descriptions?", "Simpsons didn't do it first", "First time I’ve ever seen it so I’m happy it was reposted again this month!", "Oh wow Google being shitty again", "This reminds me of what happened with Netflix when they removed the user rating/recommendation system in 2017. I used to carefully rate movies and shows and in return, Netflix did a pretty great job recommending new things I'd like. When they got rid of that system I immediately noticed that almost without fail I hated everything they recommend to me, so over time I went from an avid Netflix junkie to cancelling my membership because I could never find anything good. Even though they replaced the 5 star system with thumbs up and down, it seems like those thumbs are just a placebo for viewers and not connected to any algorithm because it never learned my taste, no matter how many things I gave a thumb up or down to.", "Ayy I remember this", "They could provide one, but they'd have to dig really deep into a really tight space.", "Ah, the \"species\" card - which part of removing youtube dislikes, or changing how we engage with media will change some vital characteristic of our humanness? \nA more apt description would be to say \"What does this mean for our internet community, and our interactions with each other, and our future as internet users?\"", "Oh gods that verge PC build..", "I am?\n\nNo, I'm not, you're just looking for something to poke at. Stop being obtuse.", "Star rating system is generally superfluous, it works on assumption that everyone is a qualified critic and can give a fair and exactly gauged rating. Which is obviously not true and over 95% of people give either 1 star or 5 star, any other amount is usually for some asinine reason and just skews the data. You could marginally improve the like-dislike system by adding \"crowns\" or something like that, which cost money to give.", "It's useless. \nYou are bringing it back for few days/week before they turn it off from the server side.", "The time it ripe for a good competitor to challenge YouTube", "Don't worry, Youtube itself will remove things they deem as misinformation. Understand this however you want.", "It would be a shame if everyone just adopted commenting \"Dislike\" on videos.", "No, a lot of times what they're looking for are increased error rates.", "Not just sort of.", "Even so, I've been using it for 2 years and so far it's been great.\nEdit: wrong response, that was meant for a different comment (about adblock browser)", "On Android?", "The lesson Google did however learn, is that the importance of \"don't fuck it up\" is at an inversely equal level to \"where else ya gonna go\".", "the description gets hacked and changed a lot so idk if jawed actually wrote that", "Dont forget all the useless filler dialogue so the video extends past 10m.", "My Netflix recommendations were top notch back when I could rate stuff on a 5 star scale.", "Fuck it lets make a new YouTube", "Is it possible for people to create an alternative YouTube? YouTube currently has a monopoly over the online video space", "What is wrong with you people. Honestly, do you not have better things to worry about?", "No, I mean species.\n\nCulturally shifting to a place where the mildest and vaguest form of criticism of opinions and artistic/entertainment content is seen as so damaging to mental health that it must be removed across an entire platform is not good for humanity.\n\nIt’s saying that a species that used to be comfortable killing their own meat can no longer handle a thumbs down.", "The other day it showed me 8 unskippable ads in a 30 min video. So yes Youtube is a giant asshole", "Google is asshole. They have been seen they decide to remove \"do no evil\" slogan from their organization", "I disagree with that, I found like to dislike ratios quite accurate at the time of discerning if a video is worth watching. Videos might have deceitful titles and thumbnails made to get clicks so just “don’t engage in things you don’t like” is already hard when the content is trying to deceive you. I use mobile a lot and I loved when you could see the ratios without having to click on videos but eventually YouTube removed that. I’ve clicked on misleading content, forgot to check the ratios and watch it only to find out too late that it was deceitful content and if I had paid attention to the like/dislike ratios to begin with I would’ve known better. YouTube has been gradually hiding more and more info just to get people to watch more, it doesn’t matter if what they watch is worth it or not.", "They only did it to accommodate corporations', media, and politicians' videos that everybody dumps on for being propaganda and lies. We arent their customer base anyways, so dont expect them to care what we want.", "Holy shit! Remember the kids guide with the bleached strawberries? It's gonna lead to dead people because no one can see how the vid is bullshit. Just disable comments and you can get people to kill themselves.", "Lmao people are so hung up on the dislikes. Just get over it lmao. It sucks but oh well. I pay them nothing", "Except his videos are actually educational and he does adress his shock jokes.", "> You will still be able to promote video and the user will still watch it completely as they are unaware you are showing bullshit.\n\nother than you know, comments, and if comments are off and its not a kid or political channel, you should be smart enough to realize its shit.", "recycled post lol", "[Youtube could make an exception, like how they altered this numberphile video to forever have 301 views](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkhgagvrjI).", "They NEED to switch back to visible dislikes again, browsing YouTube now is horrible", "Holy crap, I had no idea that site was still around. And it looks like it hasn't changed since I was a teen. Getting some serious nostalgia over here.", "why do I still see dislikes? On safari and the youtube app still.", "~~\"~~feature~~\"~~", "But if they do it for every video then they can just claim it's policy.", "> adblock plus for browser.\n\nUse uBlock Origin instead, ABP was letting companies pay for ads to appear. UBO is also open source and the creator has said he will never sell it. UBO is also less resource intensive.", "They are calloused; owning so many IoT software, devices, services, etc. Makes them just as indispensable as companies like Microsoft and Apple (and if you think the modern world wouldn't tank hard for a few years if either of those go under you're just being silly). \n\nSo, basically, YouTube, owned by Alphabet (the new parent company of Google after all the morals were purchased and purged) hasn't cared about content creators, especially small to medium content creators in years. This is obvious from the lack of any realistic path for them to take after being auto flagged by bot algorithms; there's no realistic way to adjudication within the system; and any \"fixes\" come waaaay after any losses incurred. \n\nThey can afford not to care. We're not looking at targeted ads anymore, the algorithms and AI learning being applied are saying \"this is the right move to make money.\" \n\nAnd all the sleezebag Business Administrators brainwashed in college to believe this is the only way to operate along with CEOs are all like \"hell yea fuck people in general, its only right to make more money and exploit people! I mean we're not selling illegal drugs or anything, not that some of our purposefully designed behavior loops trigger similar addictive, detrimental qualities in people, they just really love it!\". \n\nWe're all good and fucked, wish I could help but I'm just an armchair general hoping that next time I go to bed I don't wake up.", "Yo what? Who is matt Koval and why is he the only person I’ve ever heard of with my last name outside of my immediate family?", ">Reddit leans left \n \nWhy is it then that without active moderation and content curation most topics and forums on Reddit usually start leaning \"right\"?", "Removing dislikes promotes content that gets the biggest reaction, both positive and negative, it promotes polarising content, it's engagement at the cost of consensus, it's how online platforms tear society apart.", "I have dozens of things to worry about. And guess what, I worry about them. However, I am smart enough to know that I shouldn't only worry about the most important one.", "I'd much rather they went to the effort to grab actual repair manual diagrams and take reference photos on a car that's been used than balance a camera on the other side of the room and get in the way, then not mention the weird little trick to getting something in/out", "It's a YouTube extension that's already significantly proliferated, it's integrated into most replacement clients, it may not have the feature now, but it's a perfect candidate for the future", "It’s because of Covid. I’m sure promoted videos being mass downvoted played a smaller part of it but it’s primarily because covid information videos were being targeted by brigades of trolls. It started only a week or so before YouTube made the change, and it’s almost certainly why the change happened so suddenly.", "Didn't they start off as just like... Two dudes though. How did they start off?", "It's so brands don't get dislike bombed really", "Has this been implemented yet? I still see dislikes on YouTube.", "And they can disable like/dislike as well, there's already systems to protect their mental health, this is just bs", "this isn't about stopping bullies and trolls. its about making big businesses and their channels look more popular than they really are. they are afraid of people downvoting videos in protest too. for now on, i will always just use a thumbsdown emoji if im disapointed in a video.\n\nedit: actually... i wont do that. say if i'm watching a video with extremist views. i will be afraid of commenting cause ironically the people who support that video will be attacking a the person who disagrees. This is going to make bullying even worse!", "because hes a dumbass libertarian", "If you want to disable dislike, then what is the point to keep the like? Do you want to show how amazing you are by hiding all the shit you've done? It's just dumb to show that useless number", "Shareholders? It is all about the quarterly bonus.", "I don't really like any videos... \n\nI mean if I was paid for my opinion, then I would... They use it for analytics and make money out of it...\n\nAfter sitting through the torture of ads, I do not feel like contributing any more... sorry, not sorry... \n\nAnd if they are so concerned about mental health, how about they stop to push the same add for me 50 times at the beginning, end and in the middle of every video... I have seen it 49 times already, almost memorized it... It's like a psychological warfare. Play a different add, or don't play adds if I saw 50 of them in one sitting already..", "It's to protect corporations and marketing from receiving negative feedback. Bad think. Bad think", "My youtube just updated today. I hate it", "Because incels run free", "They made it impossible to detect absolute bullshit videos unless they are very obvious in trolling or something, and I'd imagine it can lead to something dangerous happening.", "Completely different things.", "The beauty of this plan is it's simplicity.", "Aye, but the underlying engine that chromium browsers use is being modified to prevent adblockers working effectively - [Manifest V3](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/manifest-v3-open-web-politics-sheeps-clothing) is the change, and it's coming soon.", "thats not true. dislikes count as engagement too and will get the same treatment from the algorithm. thats why people are so angry about the whole situation. if dislikes actually made the video disappear we wouldnt have a problem", "Maybe the actual populist opinions and views that majority of the people hold aren't conducive for the status quo and corporate advertising. Corporations that have a hold on a very loyal consumer base. \n \nReason why Youtube also now removed the dislikes. Because without active moderation they can't control it and they are exposed to ridicule.", "I believe this is only one of the reasons. The other is to stop a community bombing a video. Trolls have been doing this for ages, and the high dislike content generally drives more trolls to dislike it, making less people interested in watching the content.\n\nYou can still see the numbers, but since critics can't, then targeted harassment from similar groups would go down.", "I can't remember it from when I played it but holy shit that's prescient.", "I disagree with this, not enough experts vs casual laymen to know the difference beyond a few dislikes per guide. Otherwise 90% of Linus's videos would be ridden with red flags.", "Sure it can! It'll just be harder. You didn't get to see a likes/dislikes ratio back when you were learning car repairs from that old, knowledgeable seeming dude, before YouTube was around, either!\n\nThis will make educational stuff on YouTube harder to trust, but it's not the end of it all.", "tbf I've never known the old reddit and the new UI doesn't bother me at all. they may be expecting that with youtube, who can miss the dislike if they never known them ?", "I'm sure people will get viruses on their computers more often because users who want to install mods, plugins and other softwares will have no idea if it's safe or not because the dislike button always was the first indicator if everything is legit... Now the creator can just delete negative comments.", "I didn’t realise how essential the dislike count is until they removed it. I still habitually look for the dislikes on every video I open as a way of quickly seeing go it it’s worth watching. Such an asshole move on YouTube’s part.", "I would love to see Sponsorblock integrate this. Sponsorblock is already integrated into apps like Vanced. Is there a place we could all collectively suggest this to them as a group?", "Neither does Youtube.", "Everyone knows it’s because companies don’t want to deal with being added to the top X most disliked videos when they release their new shitty trailer for an unwanted product, while not having to go through the shame of turning off likes and dislikes. \n\nIf they actually cared about mental health of creators, they’d have more support around demonetization etc.", "was Matt Koval morse coding during the announcement?", "Also protects all those Biden and friends videos from getting disliked to hell", "Yeah and made it easier for me to skip their video whenever I see \"comment is disabled in this video\". Lol", "I would actually recommend watching this reaction compilation, it's pretty entertaining and you'll see the pros absolutely aghast and explaining all the issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-2Scfj4FZk", "yes, i do a lot of coding work and i can't believe these changes. Its vital to see dislikes to know if a coding video is worth watching", "Electroboom doesn't pretend things that don't work work. He just tries them anyway and shows how they don't work.\n\nThe BS lifehacks use all kinds of video editing magic to fake the results.", "I really just hate how YouTube is doing what they want and there is nothing we can do about it. The amount of ads on free app is just too much and their solution is to pay them for something that should be free. Now with the dislike counter removed we are screwed over once again. This company should be held in court for anti-consumer behaviour", "Perhaps the answer is a comment with 'dislike'?", "Downvoted your comment because of 'reasons'.", "Could you please share the original?", "I want to understand it", "Never mind the mental health of their users' 'trust issues' with their content.", "\nPetition - Bring Back the Dislike Counter on Youtube\n\nhttps://www.change.org/p/bring-back-the-dislike-count-on-youtube\n\nGot about 2.5k signed...not like it makes a difference but there it it....", "I am finding myself increasingly using the app (Reddit is Fun) instead of the website. You're right, the new design makes me want to use reddit way less.", "\"Let's make this a hangout place\" is a phrase that was uttered in the meeting where this was decided. I'll stake my life savings on this.", "Calling someone a 'youtuber' is a bit disgusting really. We've very little choice besides the monopololistic adulterated content.", "Yup, so the mainstream media YouTube channels will get to hide how absolutely ratioed their garbage content gets and independents will look worse going purely from the number of likes. It's fucked.", "若批评不自由，则赞美无意义。\n\nLucky that I went and found it after posting that last comment.", "You just helped me round out my podcast. Thank you, friend.", "Old news.", "Don't worry, it'll be back here every few months to remind us.", "I love that extension!", "YouTube’s damage control after the last rewind. kek.", "So.. what youre telling me is something is going to replace YouTube, especially for DIY videos. Anyone have any suggestions? \n\nThis is probably the dumbest thing Ive seen a company do proudly and publicly.", "Youtube wants videos with the biggest potential to generate views aka, revenue, to rise to the top as fast as possible. This is why their policy and algorithm are in place. They don't give a flying fuck about anything else as long as law permits it. Basically like any large company ever", "Cut me some slack. I have purposefully avoided covid videos on YT because I watch YT for a brief escape from reality or to brush up on skills. I said I'm not on the divisive side of YT and honestly didn't even realise there was utility to dislikes until this news came out and I asked some friends their views. \n\n\nCurrent view is that there is utility for people who want to see if a tutorial is good or bad by the like/dislike ratio, but there's clearly room for abuse because people will \"dislike bomb\" a video. I've heard people argue that removing dislike \"is literally 1984\" and others argue it's going to make their experience a bit more tedious if they have to watch a whole video to find out it's uninformative.\n\n\nPeople can argue for the removal because some videos (most of what I watch) is so uncontentious that there's no need for a \"dislike\" button and people will legit misclick it on mobile, and you can argue that legitimately informative/important videos are being dislike bombed. \n\n\nMy solution? None. Just wanted to add to the discussion but in retrospect I don't think my comment was valuable so I'm adding this one. \n\n\nPeace", "I'm so very lost", "When will the remove the dislike feature?", "Similar, years back, I was looking up putting in a larger hard drive in my Xbox. You basically just needed to buy this small piece of plastic for it to mount to and line up with the connector points properly, and it was as cheap and easy to do. \n\nBut then I see another video which says you can do it without that mounting plastic. Oh? Sure, I'll watch. Dude basically just slides a hard drive into the area one is supposed to go, and hopes it hits the connector points. Then he shows how you take it out, because there's, nowhere to grip it once it's in, and takes a pair of needle-nose plyers, and starts to pull. Players slip off, so he regrips it harder. \n\nHe finally gets it out, and the spot where he pulled from is now crushed. And he claimed this was all fine. \n\nI closed the video and ordered the sub-$10 piece of plastic.", "Cake my upvote", "It's not about that, it's an excuse.", "There's a far easier way to handle that. Take high profile informational videos where that's happening, and shadow-ban the people mass-downvoting from having their votes counted. They still show up as having downvoted on their end, but don't do anything.", "There's way more utility of the like/dislike ratio other than \"just tutorial videos\". You can gauge social sentiment for something, make educated guesses on the validity of a creator, see if a video is being brigaded, and by whom, etc. There are so many ways I personally use the ratio. \n\nIn fact, I have a browser extension that uses the YouTube API to overlay the ratio on all video thumbnails so that I don't even have to waste my time clicking on a video to see the ratio. \n\nI think you're vastly overlooing this feature.\n\nYouTube has been in a war with developers of these extensions for a while. The YouTube ratings extension used to work without API access, but then they nuked it back in like 2014 (I think) It's been a while, but it's like a war between developers and YouTube behind the scenes. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. \n\nClearly YouTube has a vested interest in keeping the extensions dead. \n\nThey want people to be \"more engaged\" (aka waste more time on their platform so their advertisers make more money). \n\nJesus, dude. Just think a little about it.", "They just don’t want all their cringe celebrity endorsed bullshit getting down voted.", "Rent free", "And you base that opinion on ... what? On the fact that people using extensions are more likely to put effort into video watching? I would call that a win. I don't think it's going to be as skewed though, shown by other less popular YT extensions that have hundreds of thousands of users", "I'd like to see the collective user initiate new practises that come out of this like no one engaging in the Like button and using the pinned comments somehow to reflect a more faithful system, I don't know.", "Hey I value your perspective because you demonstrate a good and valid case and that's why I'm here. I appreciate the response, but don't get mad at me because we use the platform differently. Like I said, I don't have an opinion one way or the other so it's not like I'm out here arguing against you. I hope my comments have reflected my earnest attempt at gauging the general sentiment around this decision by YT devs.\n\n\nPeace", "I mean, that's what rules and consequences are. Laws and fines/jailtime. Religious books and what they threaten will happen if you don't follow their rules. \n\nAs a species, we've shown quite well that without rules and consequences, there's no low we won't sink to.", "YT only cares about money. They're protecting their advertisers and shills.", "Use an adblocker everywhere. Thats your only weapon against big tech.", "I feel like Netflix did it like this too. Then took it all away. But maybe they went from zero to 100. And got rid of both like and dislike or thumbs up and down. I still miss it :(", "With pressure from the White House", "Someone needs to do that now, I miss old reddit.\n\nThis is not old reddit. This is new reddit wearing the decayed old reddit like a suit. Old reddit was creative paradise that stood for free speech.\n\nYou guys have no idea how evil they are until you cross them.\n\nThat being said if an alternative is already out there please let me know it.", "Lol no, look at the money instead. Big corporations don't want their shit downvoted when the product is shit, like games and other stuff. Also they might lose advertisers if a video is high on downvotes. Just look at all the big games lately that's been rightfully massacred by downvoted. CEOs don't want that shit public, they wanna fool as many as possible into buying their shit", "Busce you? No..... Buscemi", "I miss the days of YT showing the like/dislike ratio for comments. And YT comment section wasn’t filled with zoomers speaking in meme format recycling the same jokes over and over.", "The internet is becoming worse every year.", "They (YouTube, etc.) are villains. We are their enablers.\n\nWe’ll end up erasing ourselves from existence.", "Those who can still see the dislikes, don't update your YouTube app. You can see the dislikes on desktop YouTube as of now.", "I think if someone is gonna make an alternative Reddit, it would need to start off with much stronger moderation (subreddits have to be approved etc) and then be lessened over time because you're much more likely to get taken over by bad actors when you're still a small website. Obviously lots of people will not like the early moderation though.", "It's 2021. There are no bad things. Only extremely good or averagely good", "Reminds me of very early internet websites. It's just that the blank space would usually be filled with adverts.", "This is a gross over exaggeration of the impact dislikes had on a video’s search ranking or overall exposure. The algorithm has never cared much about dislikes for most types of video or topic, and in some cases (including the niche I have 1.2m subs in) a dislike is probably more valuable than no engagement. \n\nDislikes do have some impact on a video’s popularity and exposure on YT, especially for certain topics and channels. But for most users - and for the algorithm - they’ve never been a critically important factor and I highly doubt hiding dislike counts is going to make much of a difference to what content ranks or which channels get featured… or even to CTR. \n\nObviously Google is full of shit with the “mental health” angle but I am confident that dislikes have never been important and their disappearance really won’t matter in the long run.", "Crybaby has super-intelligence and destroys heroes because he is emasculated by their super strength.", "Except different types of videos have different engagement patterns. Now a viewer needs to hold all this extra statistical info in their head to get a more vague determination, when having dislikes would just solve the problem.", "Exactly this", "Just use adblock and pray that your favorite content creator has a patreon.", "Because that still tells the user something is fishy. Why would they hide the likes/dislikes if the feedback was good?", "This reminds me of older layouts", "Wait … what ? How long are their trunks ?", "Everyone is going to have to learn what a good ratio from the total views to likes is.", "Then we need Burnt Face Man.", "In all honesty as a creator myself I feel like both likes and dislikes should be removed as they add little value and make it less likely you'll recieve meaningful feedback.\n\nSure it might be an ego boost to get tons of likes but it's better to know why they like it and conversely why they don't. If there's a simple button to press people are far less likely to leave that useful feedback.", "I originally opened a Reddit account almost 6 years ago because of free speech and nothing seemed censored. That is not what it is today. It’s a compilation of subreddit echo chambers, promoting gross intolerance outside of one point of view and the moderators make “Cuck” over at FB look like a saint. \n\nNot sure what Reddit’s long term strategy is. Probably waiting to sell off to “Meta”.", "Actually suicide in Japan has been steadily falling since 2005. Now it's almost the same rate as the U.S.\n\nLink: [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan) and [statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/622249/japan-suicide-number-per-100-000-inhabitants/).", "[Suicide in Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan) \n \n >In Japan, suicide (自殺, jisatsu) is considered a major social issue. In 2017, the country had the seventh highest suicide rate in the OECD, at 14. 9 per 100,000 persons, and in 2019 the country had the second highest suicide rate among the G7 developed nations. During the 1997 Asian financial crisis, rates of suicide spiked heavily, increasing by 34.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "You and a few other thousands are a minority, the old UI is not readable and very engineer-like UI, they changed it and adopted millions of users. The video player, as much as I hate it, will also stay because that's where all platforms are going and that's what the majority like. I doubt this break them. Plus the API will probably cost very soon, since they need to turn around their platform making more profitable, so no more 3rd party clients.\n\nWhat I was hoping that would break reddit is the ability to report fake news, posts, subs, etc. They are removing all the paths to do that. But FB is still there, so I guess that won't break them either.", "First step:\n\nsudo rm -rf /", "Didn't Facebook say the same bullshit about seeing \"who\" liked your stuff on Instagram, on to backpeddle the change?", "The reason is to stop review bombing imo.", "Make this into an NFT and sell for millions.", "I can still see the dislikes, so what is this about?", "Before the shout-out to Kelsey there had been spam/scam/bullshit link there several times.", "We can just be sad in our minds by ourselves then.", "Laws don't exist to be reminders, they exist to codify the steps to take when someone forgets.", "They envy facebook money. Dislikes help prevent a ultra toxic qanon community from forming. Reddit is next", "can we get a browser extension to show the dislikes?", "reddit used to.", ">He’s been hacked before but he’s had control over the account for a couple years at least.\n\nThe previous description from a few weeks ago was a random shout-out to 74 Gear, a large-ish but far newer and completely unrelated channel, and its owner had been notified via TikTok. Do you seriously think that Jawed, a person with no presence on social media, would have had a reason to randomly do that?", "I think it's a fair assumption that people who install a browser extension specifically so that they can dislike videos are probably more likely than the average YouTube user to use the dislike button.", "You have Biden Derangement Syndrome.", "ONI knew for damn near certain that they were being tortured beforehand, but ADM Denton’s video gave them the proof they needed.\n\nAlso why many people (myself included) to this day hate Jane Fonda. She gave the NVA a huge propaganda win. They polished up the camps before she walked through to make it look like everyone was being treated humanely. Common tactic by captors.", "Linus pointed that out.", "Yeah I agree it's still dumb, this is just some minor workaround", "They know for a while that communities that cant be moderated by the users are more profitable. Facebook drops garbage and harmfull information on you and have killed millions around the world of covid. Also destroyng democracies. But facebook is more profitable because anger and fakenews get lots of views", "Here's where you're assuming too much: The extension is to be able TO SEE how many dislikes there are, not just TO DISLIKE.", "OOOF", "Killing the dislikes killed the likes. This number doesn't mean anything anymore", "You got recycled content", "Negative engagement is still engagement", "This is basically the idea of a product manager who had a eureka moment while taking a dump", "Likes and dislikes were never tied to the algorithm anyway. Highly disliked videos actually get more promotion as they tend to have a large amount of crying in the comments.... Which is a algorithm metric.\n\nThe dislike button never did anything... Besides making the viewer feel like it does something.\n\nLike the door close button on an elevator.", "It just doesnt make sense to remove them because a small minority of people don't like it or are overly sensitive. You cant have the good without the bad", "What happens to an SSD if u don't power it for 100 years?", "Ah so they like giving out participation trophies too now", "Mental gymnastics to validate their broken logic.", "Use your brains... Maybe you'll figure it out...", "This. 100% the sole reason they removed dislikes.", "What? Why can’t you do both you weirdo. Plenty of people vote based on what’s popular or shoved in their face on twitter. If what’s shoved in their face has a million to one dislike ratio, it’s likely to make them reconsider their position on a topic.", "Then remove the dislikes from ads. Problem solved.", "I can still see dislikes? Not updated yet or what?\n\n\nBut removing them is sad. Let people decide what they like and don't. When I click on a video to learn something, and it's like to dislike ratio is 33/67 I don't watch. I feel like small creators are more dead now than ever before.", "You're probably looking for a TLDW version but just in case you want to watch the [Fixing the Verge PC Build](https://youtu.be/QKzmYsySGFQ). It features Stefan, the host of the original Verge vid, and he explained what went wrong.", "I think you confuse “address” with “cater”. In fact, YouTube is catering to the few, because they failed to properly address the issue so that it wouldn’t impact the many. And brigading happens, it just doesn’t need to be solved by a nuke bomb. They did it because it affects their monetization - no one believes it was to help the little guy. Advertisers didn’t like spending on media bits that later got hit with dislikes. YouTube blamed brigading rather than bad content. But if YouTube had addressed brigading then they’d need to face the music. My question is precisely to expose the fact that solutions do exist (as some have suggested already) and YouTube could have implemented them rather than kill the dislike mechanism.", "They know. Its executives that feel anxious and worried they're useless so they make changes for the sake of changes. \n\nHey look at meeeeee. I did something.", "> \"The radical left\"? Who is that?\n\nOne small example: The crowd chanted \"the only solution is Communist revolution\" at Chicago's protest against the Rittenhouse verdict", "Its all about ad revenue, its all that matter to youtube.", "Ok, let's say after we remove dislikes, we have two videos with 500k likes. Based on that, they must be equal in quality right? Now, lets add the dislikes back in. One video has 500k likes and 1k dislikes, the other has 500k likes and 500k dislikes. What conclusions can we draw about their relative quality after taking in this new data?", "Nothing better than an unskippable 14 second add in order to watch a 28 second youtube clip.", "They do? Seems like a big leap youre making.", "This is the same BS as corporations like Apple removing the charger because they're so passionate about the environment. While also implementing planned obselesence to encourage the sale of millions more phones...", "I watch them for the trick to getting something in/out clearly because seeing someone do it is easier to understand than reading about someone doing it.", "The change is for investors and ad revenue. More Ads in big videos.", "As someone who has watched my wife create 5 new accounts in 14 months because of hate raids getting her accounts removed, I think you're not seeing the whole picture. \nHate raids are where a group of people go around to their targets and start reporting and disliking every video you've ever posted until the algorithm automatically bans you. If they are quick enough, you can get enough reports to get 1 day, 3 day, etc. bans at the same time or even skip right to your account being removed. \nYou wont understand until you make body positive videos for 2 months, then get your account deleted with no warning except for 7 ban notices in your email within the span of 4 minutes.", "You stumbled on the feature, not a bug", "Don't worry, I got the joke.", "u/Double-decker_trams, \"the oldest\" does not mean the same thing as \"the first\".", "Might be my browser or some weird extension but I still can view all dislikes in any video, maybe it doesn't update worldwide at the same time for some reason?", "Do you know how name?", "Optimus Buscemi.", "I think they'd pay the staff member responsible for this type of thing at their company to do that.", "Since we can’t use dislikes to gauge whether a video is helpful or not anymore, they have an excuse to further police “disinformation” by saying we wouldn’t know any better without their help. \n\nThey create a problem and provide a solution that fits their needs or costs us $$.", "Right, but you need negative checks as well. \n\nIf the traffic you're receiving on the new deployment is less than half the traffic you're receiving (corrected for number of users on each deployment) on the existing deployment, then something is definitely going wrong, even if you aren't triggering errors. \n\nThink back to the great Facebook outage. Getting cut out of DNS wouldn't show up as errors in any of their logs. But volume of traffic plummeted to near 0.", "Yeah I used the 10% estimate to know if something is shit or not too. Is this a universal thing like sewing stuff in biscuit tins?", "Your opinion doesn't matter for one reason:\n\n\\- Companies dont want their promotional material to be mass downvoted.\n\nMoney > Users safety/health etc.", "Yeah, the way I normally explain it is, \n\nThe people that give anything other than 1 or 5 stars, are just diluting their own vote. Which means the people that aren't able to be nuanced, get the most say in a rating of a video which creates bias in the ratings", "They obviously did it because of downvote brigadiers (who make the upvote/downvote ratio useless on the videos they hit), so I assume they expect downvote brigades to stop when they can’t see any results.", "Matt Kovac hasn't uploaded a popular video in 12 years. Yot he is a creator liason", "YouTube put a strike on creators if THEY want to but we cannot see a dislike ratio? If caring about creators was truly a priority why couldn't Youtube have a daily limit on dislikes so people wouldn't abuse it, then if it were truly terrible content it would even more apparent on the ratio bar because dislikes held more true weight. not get rid of dislike ratio bar !", "How can she slap", "!!fEaTuRe!!", "South park also made fun of Al Gore for being worried about \"made up problems\" like climate change.\n\nYou shouldn't look up to south park as the truth", "Im confused. I still see a dislike button and I still see the count.", "I actually hadn't thought much about the Dislike removal but that description makes some great points.", "They're trying to be tiktok when there already is a tiktok. The information I have heard my boy listen to on youtube shorts is just awful.", "This put the whole thing into perspective for me. Goddamit", "They're probably just doing it to try and cover up all the dislikes every Joe Biden video gets", "Like all those bullshit PragerU ads? A big part of why I got premium is so I wouldn’t have to see that shit.", "It's about the mental health of the public. Google's deep mind is all knowing and all powerful. This is an effort for humanity to stop being assholes. Why do you feel the need to tell someone you don't like something? If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all. The creator can still see 100 views and only 12 likes and know what's up.", ">recycling same jokes\n\nWhich is what reddit comment sections devolve to as well, in many cases...", "I'm totally expecting most bad videos to have a comment saying \"dislike\" that has a ton of likes lol", "That's bc less censorship always means less misinformation. Plot twist, the ones censoring everything are the ones promoting misinformation.", "I think this is the time to stop supporting YouTube. We as a society need to go on strike, I’m sick of this bullshit by Google", "Interesting. But that means only dislikes from people who use the extension will count. You will never know the actual dislike amount.", "Especially given that Google has its “your money your life” policy on content it ranks, where it’s particularly thorough about authority and expertise when it comes to content about those topics. Seems like it’s just taking another bit of user-generated feedback out of the equation.", "These two videos have the same number of views? If yes, then the one with larger number of dislikes implies the it created more engagement and was dealing in something controversial. That's all the information an equal number if dislikes conveys, and it's not very useful.", "UsE yOuR bRaIn\n\nYour premise is flawed and you're out of things to say.", "Not to mention the people who watch a DIY about burning their house down and unwittingly end up cleaning it.", "The only people it protects are the feelings of investors of major corporations when they put out a hot take that blows up in their face.\n\nThat and YouTube Rewind.", "Wouldn't this prevent a new video from getting dislikes and therefore the uploader wouldn't see them?", "The rest of what he says is fairly trite bullshit, speaking from feelings and throwing an obscenity here and there. The only valuable thing he says is that YouTube should succumb to the masses and not make this change because it's unpopular, but he doesn't make a good argument for _why_ it's a bad change.", "the north passages froze two weeks earlier this year, cause ya know global warming n stuff.", "Pretty sure we're already there and now it's just the slow burn of failure", "Yeah, I do not care for Formula 1, but it constantly tries to shove Formula 1 related subreddits down my throat.", "Sure", "They want to keep people on the site. Removing the dislikes means you can't skip over low quality videos as easily, which means you're more likely to watch more ads.\n\nThey don't care about you, they care about your attention. That is all.", "What would be a good YouTube alternative for those looking to transition away?", "If only there was a quick and easy way to see if a video is of good quality. Guess the technology just isn't there yet.", "Was that ever a question?", "> There's no a single employee, it seems, capable of tackling their products from a UI/UX standpoint.\n\nGoogle doesn’t appear to want taste-makers - they would rather let the data-driven A-B tests dictate their decisions.", "Thanks!", "I have a friend who killed himself in 2011 or 2012 and their account exists as a memorial page. Sounds like nobody bothered to do that for your friend, but the function was there.", "r/InternetExplorer", "Not if it is collecting its own data.", "It.... doesn't?", "Is this just for watching youtube on the phone or something? The dislike button is still there on the pc.", "Oh you're new here aren't you? YouTube is the asshole bully of the internet companies.", "> so it would inherently be somewhat dubious information\n\nThere would be hurdles but it's not like YouTube isn't already affected by bots.", "Has been for at least a decade", "I don't think removing dislikes is a bad idea but I don't use it as an indicator like others say they do. Hmu if they remove the comment section.", "It's kind of hilarious to see Reddit get all up in arms about this, because Reddit has been doing it for years.\n\nHave you ever taken a look at a promoted post on Reddit? Comments are disabled, and upvotes/downvotes don't do anything.", "money from big brands that don't want people to see their garbage get downvoted when they do something unpopular.", "Sigh...I want to try to compete without being a \"like Reddit, but...\".\n\nA subscription model is all that comes to mind.", "If that was the creators intention, they could always just disable likes and dislikes. This was never going to have an effect on people who are intentionally making bad content.", "Lots of good comments on this. The solution should have been to hide both likes and dislikes until 500 or some number. That would give smaller channels more runway. Hiding dislikes will mean people can post dangerously wrong advice and unless comments say it is wrong, no way to check.", "THIS \nI got the two mixed up, use ublock Origin. Thanks for clarifying", "What's the new YouTube? Sounds like we need to make a change.", "Chat features are important so people can now try to troll you directly and bypass the mods of whatever sub they got pissed at you on! \n\nAlso, scamwhores and shitcoin shills.", "It’s really going to put a hamper on my amateur gynecologist practice.", "Before you switch to your \"subscriptions\" page please watch this advertisement. 1/2", "GOD DAMN IT. It feels like now I'm watching with one eye closed. It's like I'm blinded by the lack of information regarding how crowds feel about the video. WTF.", "Scary how we are living in a world where all negativity and criticism has to be censored or removed. Because people have fragile ego or their feelings hurt. \n\nThere is such a thing as toxic positivity, look it up. That is what these companies are promoting.", "The strangest belief conservatives have is that the likes of youtube and facebook are against them. Those sites are both filled to the absolute brim with extremist conservative content and are both largely responsible for the radicalization of the American right wing. They are absolutely not liberal safe havens.", "If you get people to comment as opposed to just dislike isn't that more valuable, actionable data even if it's all negative?", "What a creepy profile picture I like it though haha", "I just dislike everything now, have fun!", "Pro content creator here. Nobody cares about their dislikes.", "That would require actual competition, which requires the ability to run servers that can handle literally millions of minutes of uploads every day. The barrier to entry seems too high for any real competition.", "Today Busceyou. Tomorrow Buscemi.", "I disagree, let's take the example of the Rittenhouse case, while the media previously glorified the victims and painted Rittenhouse as a supremacist, the trial and verdict showed that this was merely bullshit. If you look at any video trying to put paint Ritenhouse as a POS the dislike count is fucking HEAVY. And on average the dislike ratio is wayyy higher for liberal news content on youtube than for conservative. If you don't believe me choose any video from CNN or MSNBC and compare it to any Fox News dislike ratio, its remotely not even close. Reality hurts but hey, its what it is.", "They were there for me till yesterday. Woke up today morning and it's gone, just simply not there. Breaks my heart!", "Compare the dislike ratio of any CNN or MSNBC video to Fox News, any video. Its not even remotely close. If you still disagree then its just pure cognitive dissonance on your part.", "It also forces people to trust their algorithm more instead of other users.", "If you hang out in a literary club you'll hear people compare world events to books they've read, hang around reedit and you'll hear people compare world events to games they've played. Personally I don't care where an insight comes from as long as its cogent", "Sounds like it needs to be community consensus that without like/dislike comment pinned at top the vid is unverifiable trash", ":::Russia has entered the chat:::", "Built my house using youtube videos. This is damaging. Not being able to weed out the good from bad videos is an awful shit change and Susan needs to be fired for this alone.", "It would give the grounds for innovators to try and bite a chunk of the market if the public shows that they are tired of YouTube and are just waiting for an alternative. \n\nDoesn’t need to be an established player even, could be grassroots or investor based.", "In the age of dis/misinformation, YouTube makes bold moves to shove more dis/misinformation down your throat", "Kind of tangentially related, but this is why tumblr is thriving. They can’t make profit off of it, and there is no algorithm specifying content for you. A lot of the content is organic and curated by humans and all off the crazies have fled to Twitter along with that\n\nWhy can’t people just stop their greed so humanity can actually thrive", "\"Nothing can be great if nothing is bad\"👏", "Is this part of the conspiracy for changing yt into tv?", "Idk do you see your dislikes?", "Can you explain how keeping the dislike button, but not showing the count of dislikes, is political bias? YouTube will still honor dislikes in their algorithm.\n\nI'm not trying to argue. I'm a software engineer and genuinely interested.", "They got rid of the dislikes because they want to keep the data it provides for themselves imo", "Maybe that is why they are doing it. Comments show people are engaged being engaged means companies will want to advertise. So removed the dislike button and comments go up and they can point out their engagement is up so they should get more money. Companies don't care about anything but money. If they say they care they are only doing so because they think it will make them money.", "So you blame Trump then, right?\n\nBecause he was pres when they started [planning this](https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-attack-mob-review-bomb-creator-insider)", "It's Buscemis all the way down", "Kiwi is a fork of Chromium that literally has a built-in adblocker in addition to the support though. I suppose I'd have to check in on the dev side for the Kiwi Browser specifically, but I'd be surprised if they didn't take advantage of the forked nature to try and mitigate the damage caused by Manifest V3 on the userbase.\n\nOf course, I don't know how thoroughly Google is integrating it all such that it might be terribly obnoxious to still incorporate upstream security and function updates without doing the Manifest V3 changes to extensions, but I'm at least a good deal more optimistic about it than I am about Chrome itself continuing to support such things.", "Sounds good to me, but this all could be avoided if we just had dislikes for each video.", "VidIQ has rating system as well, which appears on the videos' thumbnail.", "This is exactly why Reddit removed the up and down vote counters if you ask me..", "I mean, disabled comments it probably a big red flag.", "Thanks for posting This. I just see an autogenerated lame sounding sentence stating that this is the first youtube video.", "God I miss the old internet.", "Nah fam. It's not hidden at all. If you don't log in the dislike count is still there for everyone to see", "I love the fact that the chapters for this video are \"intro\" and \"Silent magician lvl 8\"", "I love the new description", "Question 1: With that video having 204 million views, does the person who uploaded get any money from it or have they gotten any money from it ever?\n\nQuestion 2: When are they removing dislikes? I still see them on videos.", "You’re assuming that clicking dislike made the video less likely to be offered to other users.", "The real reason is so that you can be peddled shit and opinions and rather than disagree you’re more likely to just accept things as fact. Seeing how many people like or dislike something often helps people to justify their own original opinions to things.", ">Protecting the democrats from critique\n\nLMAO the stretch. Sure honey. Let's just ignore the Trump admin being ridiculous snowflakes constantly and being disliked all the time on YT, and constantly freaking out when companies criticized him. Literally called for boycots of American companies for it.\n\nPretty clear your theory is just moronic bullshit. You ignore far more likely scenarios because you exist only in right wing circlejerks where you think anyone actually gives a rats ass about what temper tantrum rightwingers or leftwingers throw on youtube. \n\n>As you said, it's not the president who controls youtube.\n\nI didn't but par for the course for you.", "About on par with the talent of most YouTubers.", "Where has it been explained? Can you link me?\n\nYou're obviously passionate about this, but I can assure you that I don't care about the politics behind this one way or another. I don't see how I could be gaslighting when I only care about the technology and how people perceive the change.", "If upvote and downvotes are this close the comment will have the controversial dagger. (The red cross thing)", "Too late I already got dibs last time we complained about this repost!", "Holy shit, people. Get over the dislike button. This is just pathetic now.", "Comments have been disabled.", "Dislikes nowadays don’t even mean shit. Everything even slightly controversial is just bombed by the group who doesn’t like it. \n\nKid Rock showed up on popular with his new song and within an hour it had gained thousands of dislikes.", "I knew that one but I've always thought it meant something similar to \"no pain, no gain\" or \"you have to give in order to get\"?\n\nWow, should have dug deeper back then. Thanks!", "Pretty sure they never referred to it as a “feature” so getting bent like this is just sad for you guys.", "This is absolutely going to happen.", ">Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change? There is a reason, but it's not a good one, and not one that will be publicly disclosed.\n\nUhuh? Be more vague, please? Makes this sound almost like conspiracy crap. \n\nWhat's that \"secret reason\" supposed to be?", ">Red herring that has nothing to do with my argument. \n\nOnly if you have zero cognitive abilities lmao\n\n>Everybody that disagrees with the American narrative is \"right wing\".\n\nNo. Everyone saying moronic right wing shit is right wing. Welcome to reality honey.\n\n>Doesn't make any sense.\n\nIt does, maybe learn to read?", "Longer than that actually, whats the saying again?\n\"If you have to say it.. its probably not true\"\n\nYeah Thats it", "This is what happens when we go to far left.", "could be applied to any era imo. but yeah, especially so in the modern context like you said.", "Also, if you are hurt by the fact that people don’t like your videos then maybe don’t post anything? I mean. Isn’t that the chance everyone takes?", "Sad but true. Well now that we got this one wrapped up, what should we solve next? Food insecurity? Climate crisis? Insidious saturation of Seat Geek commercials?", "The additional problem with this is that these comments then feed the algorithm and the poster gains more views.", "Why is the world literally becoming the most dystopian shit ever I swear.", "We are truly heading into something other than a democracy.", "Hello Bethesda is that you?", "Woah! Hold your horses. We gave up on relying on people to police their own positive and negative content on the internet long ago.", "Not to mention, they didn't disable comments. Comments can be far more damaging to mental health than \"dislikes.\" It's not even close if you compare the two, but they disabled public views of dislikes and not comments? Yeah it's totally them caring for creators and not them 100% being asked by other large companies whose marketing videos occasionally get dislike bombed in to oblivion.", "Anyone else still see dislikes? I haven’t updated my youtube app and I still see them?", "Of course not they didn't even have ads back then \n\nGoogle support pedophiles and mentally ill people eating food but not the first video of its platform.", "He would have deleted the video if he had any balls at this point.\n\nA disclaimer like that is being a putz", "A kid posts a video, the school can't brigade on downvotes and get off on making 300 downvotes, it kind of takes the thunder out if you can't see what you did. \n\nThey created this a solution looking for a problem. The real issue is nobody wants to watch downloaded videos, but they still have to host them.", "Why do you need \"active moderation\" to keep forums from leaning right? What's wrong with that?\n\nCENSORSHIP INTENSIFIES", "They can also read the vile comments.", "They need to replace it with “helpful/not helpful” for how to vids.", "> Your premise is flawed and you're out of things to say.\n\nOr... I've had enough practice arguing with idiots that I recognize low effort responses and have a minimum expectation of effort from the person I'm discussing something with. \n\nChoose what you want to believe though, I don't care... 😊", "Same reason Digg removed the downvote/bury button back in the day. Digg was under pressure to make money, so they try expand the userbase and sponsorships - suddenly have a ton of content from partners like Teen Vogue start being pushed on a tech site.\n\nSo the community they had downvoted all that to hell, because they weren't interested. Content partners didn't like that. New version of Digg is developed which doesn't have a downvote button any more.\n\nCommunity rebels over that and other problems with the redesign.\n\nDigg ditches the community and is now just content from their commercial partners, with no voting or comments at all.", "They don't even know where their mountain dew is.", ">若批评不自由，则赞美无意义。\n\nI'm Chinese and never heard of that, seems like it's a translation from le Figaro's motto \"Sans la liberté de blâmer, il n'est point d'éloge flatteur\"", "I just disliked it and could see the total dislikes. What gives?", "It’s not gonna be accurate like it is now", ">Just petty insults with smug fake laughter again. No actual arguments. \n\n\nWhat did you expect when you dismiss any argument as irrelevant, when it is clearly relevant? That's how this works. And I really am laughing at you, it's like watching a toddler fall repeatedly.\n\n>Nothing partisan about anything I said. \n\n\nWell that's clearly bullshit.\n\n>I can read just fine.\n\nApparently not, as you failed to read and comprehend quite a bit now.", "Shouldn't sell it to Google in the first place actually.", "The brigading was just a cover story, no? I figured corporations were getting pissed that their videos would get downvoted and strong-armed youtube. Or something about how removing dislikes psychologically removes negativity when using the platform, removing negative emotions while viewing the ads at the beginning of videos, or even the content itself, causing you to view more. Whatever the actual reason I never believed the reasoning they used publicly.", "They won't kill it anytime soon, heck even [reddit.com/.mobile](https://www.reddit.com/.mobile) is still working for most shitty phones with web browsers, and that's the precursor to the slightly newer [.compact version](https://www.reddit.com/.compact)", "Removing dislikes is just another way to protect the larger media entities who got disliked for good reason. It doesn’t protect the health of creators, it protects the viability of money backed media on a platform slowly losing freedom.", "No body give a f*k", "As much as I'm opposed to these laws, I wonder if Australia's new laws about social media platforms being publishers could actually force YouTube to take action against these videos.\n\nI suppose it'd have to be tested in court, but I don't see why it wouldn't.", "Wow you really can't read....", "Negative comments get more engagement. Probably the real reason they're doing it.", "Lol and uses the word \"NPC\" unironically?\n\nTriggered right wing snowflake upset he can't comprehend basic words. As usual.", "PC building and tips. I’ve seen some terrible videos on it and the dislike ratios always show up the nonsense.", "First, people were mad at that change.... Second, it's a bit different if it shows net votes verse only positive votes.", "I did another search and it seems to be from the work/comment of 韩寒 (is their name pronounced as Han Han? Quite a name lol). But yeah, Le Figaro's motto absolutely came waaaaay earlier so Han might have been just quoting that I guess.\n\nTIL, and thanks for pointing that one out!\n\nEdit: that motto actually came from Pierre Beaumarchais's play named Le Marriage de Figaro, per Wikipedia. Somehow I'm not surprised it's from a Frenchman. They got great quotes.", "Can't tell if you're trolling or not. I don't have \"users\". The videos aren't to help someone else. The videos are for me to literally do my job. 50% of the entire job as a Cybersecurity Engineer is watching videos and reading articles to learn super specific things that only a few people in the world probably know how to do. There's not a CSE in the world who can do their job without having to frequently look things up, via forums and videos. If I can't do my job of hardening a system, then I literally do not get a paycheck. The videos aren't just a nice luxury to have, they are an absolute requirement in the field of cyber.\n\nNot trying to be condescending, but what did you think people in the cyber field actually did?", "Dead people can’t dislike a video anyways", "This.", "When everyone's super, no one will be", "The only explanation i can think of is to prevent a hive mind (disliking for the sake of disliking because a large number of people are doing so) but even that is a bad reason to hide it.", "Its a shame the game narrative is so muddled, and its basis was on taking advantage of the fanbase to prove a point. That point being facsimiles of heroic event does not make you a hero. Aka playing MGS1 does not make you an expert in anything in the real world. \n\nThe ending where the game just kinda dumps this on the player after a rocket skate katana fight on a turtle like metal gear as it crashes through a city and up to the state building is a bit much and dissonant", "Right now, nothing like it. Someone suggested YouTube Vanced which allows you to use Premium features free.\n\nThe creators I watch host their videos on Patreon as well. At least I think Patreon hosts them, I've never used it. But what I assume is that I can give each creator a reasonable monthly subscription and have access to their content. I follow like 4 or 5 and would give between $2-5 each for access.\n\nFor watching random videos or going down rabbit holes there is nothing close to YouTube.", "Cool. Also, wont the top comment just be \"like my comment to show you disliked the video\" ??", "That's not entirely a conspiracy theory. Dislike brigading [was the officially stated reason for removing the rating](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOuG8jMIgI), but politicians weren't mentioned specifically.", "Yeah, but those devolved quickly into hateful comments, at least on Disqus. I'm sure YouTube will be just as bad or worse, as the typical YT commenters aren't exactly the most socially effective people in terms of their communication methods.", "Remember when Netflix removed ratings because everything they made sucked? I’m sensing a pattern here.", "Said the same thing, got downvoted and I just laughed. Nobody here likes it when you talk bad about their \"politicians\" or how terribly they're failing the country.. but yeah, anything goes if you denigrate conservatives.", "Yes! This was the very first effect I felt from the change, but in regards to recipes. I tried using thumbnail pictures, but really all that tells me is that someone has a good camera. I could be missing out on a shit-quality video of someone’s grandma making the best version ever and have no way of knowing besides maybe view count?", "Good thing we have our one true YouTube automotive God Scotty Kilmer.", "Create a GitHub issue for the Sponsorblock project?", "Scotty Kilmer", "I'm not sure I get what your point is. Are you trying to argue that left wing nut jobs don't exist? If you're arguing that right wing nut jobs are more mainstream, prevalent and visible outside of the internet I would agree with you.", "Would be great but seems unlikely, ya know? I’d assume no big creator wants to lose out on whatever they’re making just to see if YouTube will get their shit together. Brilliant idea, but unless someone like Mr Beast does it first, prolly just gonna fail :(", "The golden Gods of reddit!", "Well I guess we have to ignore everything the alt right is doing on the internet then since apparently we can't know if those people actually exist and could all be trolls outside of the \"leaders of the alt right movement\"", "Well, it is a bit of a hard concept to understand.. because \"center\" doesn't exist.\n\nAll policy ever cannot be nearly condensed onto a line, and \"the middle\" is not automatically the best. Thinking that is immensely stupid, of course. That \"no change\" is always better than \"change\" is the motto of cowards and operssors.\n\nEffectively you have decided that whatever you believe is correct, and anyone with the backbone to actually believe in something threatens that belief. So they must be extrem, but you* are rational right? You are in the middle!\n\nThe middle of what? You never ask yourself that, now do you? Pathetic worm that you are.", "YouTube used to be my go to how to fix this place, but not anymore. I built my first computer with a YouTube tutorial playing. I would not have had that confidence had there not been 20k likes to like 15 dislikes. That's why I watched their particular video and not one of the other 30 that came up. This will be the death of youtube.", "ya veo", "I still see the dislikes", "\"as a heavy liberal\"\n\nSo.. as a right-winger? Liberals pretending they are anything other than the guardians of the status quo is laughable. It's the epitome of conservativsm. To conserve the now. Your conservatives are regressives. You do not have progressives, you are a nation of stagnation.", "It turns into an SSB (solid state brick).\n\nElectrons regularly leak out of an SSD. Powering it up allows various error correction protocols to recover the information. If you don't do that for 100 years, you won't have anything left to recover.", "This is absolutely true. Always good to use some critical thinking rather than blindly let TV shows form your opinions for you. I don't always agree with the positions that South Park takes, which is part of the reason I like it so much. I agree with it more often than not, though, and I feel the episode I brought up was well done and took on this particular issue very well. I had already formed my opinion on this subject, and this episode just did what I feel was a great job of satirizing it while calling it out. I brought up this example from the show because I agree with it and because it seemed very relevant to this discussion here.\n\nThe numerous shots South Park took at human-caused climate change (it was hardly limited to the ManBearPig episode) was one of the biggest issues that I always disagreed with them on. However, to their credit, the creators eventually changed their opinion after being confronted with all the continually mounting evidence. They actually did a two-part episode where they make ManBearPig this horrifying creature who annihilates the town and even SPOILERS kills the major character of Satan (yes, Satan's soul does go up to heaven so the door is always open for his return, but so far there have been zero Satan appearances since this episode aired in 2015). They make it very clear that they now believe that climate change is real and caused by humans.\n\nI think they deserve some credit here for publicly reversing a long-held stance they had, and basically made fun of themselves for being wrong for so long about it. It would be nice to see politicians and the average Joe have the ability to take on new information and evidence, and reexamine an issue and possibly change their mind about it.\n\nSo yes, no one should use a TV show to make their decisions about real-world issues. One would also be wise, though, to not totally dismiss a show that's been running for over two decades because they disagree with one single stance out of countless others the show has taken over the years. Also, just because someone uses an episode of a TV show to add to a discussion and use it as an example of a particular take on a matter doesn't necessarily mean they look to that show for the truth. I might find a USA Today article that I find well-researched and that I agree with on a controversial matter, but it doesn't mean I just go looking to USA Today always to form all my opinions, and that's a legitimate news source. Everyone should definitely use critical thinking and get their facts from multiple reputable sources before they form an opinion on something, and an adult animated comedy is NOT a reputable source. Sometimes a show like South Park is able to provide brilliant illustrations of a taboo or little-discussed subject or give a funny yet prescient take on a controversial stance, though, which can get people talking about it.", "Are they mainstream figures? No? Then why was that your response?", "But it comes with an implication. The implication being that it's not rational. But it's very rational.\n\nIt's people who's political view can be summed up as \"stagnation\", calling themselves \"centrists\" when what they mean is \"cowards\" that enjoy refering to the left as \"radicals\" because it means they don't have to think. They don't have to do anything.", "the double-edged sword is that if platforms are liable for the content they publish, they're not just going to prune back the physically dangerous stuff like bleaching your eyeballs or the incendiary stuff like \"overthrow the government to stop the gay lizard satanist agenda,\" they're going to snuff out anything that anybody could potentially sue over. imagine some covidiot blaming their niece's cold on an adverse vaccine reaction and suing facebook for allowing the official CDC page to recommend vaccines. \n\nthe sad thing is we wouldn't need laws like that if we just had people working at these websites who actually took action on reported content, who prioritized cleaning house over making a profit. but the money is the only thing that speaks to them so it's solely a matter of what's more expensive for them, allowing all kinds of content for the engagement-generated ad revenue or disallowing everything beyond watching paint try to avoid lawsuits.", "Just because something is said in a video game, and happens to fit the lenses you've decided to view the world in.. doesn't make it correct.\n\nIt's just stroking your ego. \"Political correctness\" doesn't actually mean what you think it means. It's not \"you can't say anything bad\". To be \"politically correct\" in the United States you have to embrace capitalism and say socialism is bad. That is being politically correct. It means not rocking the boat.\n\nIt's politically correct in the US to \"denounce both sides\". It's politically correct in the US to claim that victims shouldn't make a fuss.", ">for some reason there was LESS misinformation\n\nBecause nobody could make money or tilt elections by lying.", "Aaaaand an hour or so later, I'm halfway through the playlist.", "Don't forget nextfuckinglevel, videos, maybe even oldschoolcool.", "Yep it’s pretty much one of a kind", "Is it likely YouTube will divert course on this decision? Do we think they will make it right?", "What's their plan after people start commenting \"Like this comment to dislike\" they gonna start banning that too? When does it end lol.", "Complete BS", "I had a feeling it was him.", "Yeah but you’re not really google you’re hurting YouTubers", "Yeah they do ubelieveable bullshit con stuff", "Yeah. It has ublock", "Yep, and my dick got hard for a few minutes over the last week so I definitely don't have erectile dysfunction.\n\nThat's really not even a great counter-example because, if you examine all the empirical data on climate change, you would understand why global warming can cause paradoxical colder climates under certain conditions. We're still constantly setting new world temperature records and there is a veritable mountain of evidence that climate change is both very real and caused primarily by humans, and that is peer-reviewed scientific fact, not a political opinion. \n\nI wonder how many of the 99.9% of scientists who believed in human-caused climate change a month ago have reversed their stance due to the north passages freezing?\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans", "“Brigadiers” is just a sneaky way of saying paying advertisers were are tired of seeing their shit videos get downvoted to an embarrassing level. If it was a real problem it’s one I’ve only become aware of now because it’s the excuse they’re pushing.", "- 2021: YouTube removes dislikes\n- 2022: Comments may no longer be liked/disliked\n- 2023: Playlists are now a YouTube Premium feature - you need Premium to watch or make Playlists\n- 2024: All videos now have ads, regardless of whether they are monetized. The ad money goes to YouTube\n- 2025: YouTube implements a new algorithm for detecting slurs and bad topics and wave bans a lot of content creators. They also give them a pamphlet describing how to adhere to the new rules. \n- 2026: YouTube listened to the backlash regarding comment likes/dislikes. Commenting is now a YouTube Premium feature. All comments on all videos have been deleted.\n- 2027: There is now a tax on uploading videos as a person. There is no tax for uploading as a company or business.\n- 2028: \"We understand that removing the dislikes back in 2021 made the good content harder to find. This year we are making updates to make good content easier to find\" - YouTube removes all videos with less than 2500 views per year. All videos are now deleted after a few years if they don't have enough views to make space for their servers\n- 2029: videos can now have 3 mandatory ads at the beginning\n- 2030: adblock is banned from google chrome and blocking ads on chrome becomes against the ToS\n- 2031: Ads are now built-in to the video so they can't be easily removed. The \"skip\" button is removed and you have to watch it all.", "I agree! I think from what other comments say that YT could have mitigated brigading - what they couldn’t solve was legit downvoting.", "2022... people stopped watching YouTube videos.", "Add a comment saying “like this comment if you dislike this video”", "So, no source, just opinion/speculation. So not \"FYI,\" just bias bullshit.", "That makes more sense than just doing it to cover up the dislikes on Biden speeches.\n\nI guess that is just a bonus.", "What’s rent free about this? The Biden admin is costing everyone in America so much money through reckless inflation causing spending, socialist policies, gas prices doubling, and supply chain problems. That’s the opposite of rent free.", "This was done to hide the overwhelming hatred of the illegally installed demented alzheimers china puppet president.\n\nhttps://81m.org\n\nNo other reason.", "Can’t pass up a good opportunity for some corporate virtue signaling", "Ad hominem + throwing hands in the air + patting self on back\n\nWheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee\n\nAlso you clearly cared enough to respond and insult me, and you care enough to respond to this message too", "Yikes….", "Truth!", "?", "how are we supposed to know which tutorials are garbage?", "So many comments here asking about the removal of dislike button. Have you even read the proposed changes? The dislike button will stay but the dislikes count will be private and only visible to the Creator. \n\nI'm not telling anybody to not get angry (by all means, have at it) but please check your facts before you do. Otherwise you are just propagating misinformation", "The hell", "Okay?", "Wait what", "That won’t happen", "When I am searching for a tutorial to learn something, dislikes were useful to see if I was wasting my time on a tutorial or not. Now, it’s hard to tell what im watching. No hate, just sharing my opinion.", "Good for you", "Seriously?", "I think you mean \"it's not gonna be accurate like it used to be...\" - for many of us the count is already gone.\n\nYes, that's correct, but they're not offering the ability to opt out. If you want the count, you need to use something like this.", "Some creators disable all the time. Seen music videos with comments disabled. Not even controversial artists.", "Username check’s out", "Lol", "Not necessarily", "Dangerous according to who? because according to the CDCs own website, anyone who's not over 65, with 2 or more pre-existing conditions, has about a 99.97% chance to survive it......\n\nHow in the world is that the definition of dangerous now?\n\nDo you even have a clue how many people die in the United States every single day from smoking, and even worse secondhand smoke that they had absolutely no choice about? Why aren't y'all on the exact same type of crusade for that? considering that kills way way more people per day, and has been every single day for 100+ years non-stop, and it's 100% preventable and we've known about the dangers for many many decades now?", "I hate how this world is softening and sugar coating everything just because of people’s feelings.", "Bruh", "Correct, but having the actual dislike count is not an option being offered. There's a fork in the road, one way is to not have the feature at all, and the other is to have it be perhaps slightly less useful starting next month.", "Oh god….", "What are you even talking about? You don't know a single thing about me or my positions except the fact that I said was a liberal. Get the fuck outta here with this massive leap to \"you're a right winger\". First of all, Im pretty damn far from anything \"right wing\". Secondly, I have nothing to \"prove\" to you in regards to the veracity of my claim. \n\nFuck off you cunt.", "Are you guys doing this just to annoy? They addressed that right in their writeup.\n\n> Base dislike stats are retrieved from YouTube API while it's available. When API closes - the extension will use data from extension users to derive actual dislike count on a video", "He legit could have died on that one. Touched both sides of the ladder with each hand at the same time. Current across the heart should be avoided", "Your comment is a bit weird, but in order for others to realize this: There is a spectrum of politics that goes from Extremist Left to Extremist Right. From -100 to +100. And your opinion can be anywhere on that spectrum. \n\nIf you think we should stop eating meat by bombing the farms, then you're a terrorist from the extremist left. If you think we should stop immigrants by shooting them, then you're a terrorist from the Extremist right.", "Oh just look at the ratio on all of the White House videos, on the websites that still have it tracked, and you'll know exactly who the main plaintiff was........", "Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa\n\nCouldn't possibly be the most simple and obvious thing\n\nOne only needs to look at every video on the White House YouTube channel, at least on the websites that are still tracking them, to see who the main plaintiff was in this case.....", "Their monetization policy amounts to money laundering at this point at the highest levels of their metadata targetted ad campaigns. The fact the system was implemented and overseen by Eric Schiidt should tell you everything. He is absolutely evil and lied to us for over 15 years about their meta programs and all their other crap at GOOG. Look what they do during times of unrest, etc. Plus their search results are absolutely skewed and not really \"crawling\" the internet anymore. It's sad what they've done.", "I advise you to not continue a battle of wits with somebody who is mentally unarmed. Nice smackdown though!", "There's something happening here...", "For starters, until the official API is shut off this shows the actual number. YouTube has already hidden the number, but their API still gives it for a few more weeks. This lets us see it again.\n\nBut more importantly - I see how that makes it less useful, but I disagree that it's useless. Sure, it won't give an accurate depiction of how ALL viewers feel - but to me that just means my internal gauge for how many dislikes is \"a lot of dislikes\" will have to be readjusted.", "You should read the thread before commenting. That's a trifle concern in comparison.", "> What you don't like the content sitting squarely in the center of your computer screen\n\nSorry, but you're clearly an old fart who still browses Reddit on a computer instead of a mobile device and are therefore of no value to their advertisers, so they don't care what you like...", "Seriously, at this point, if a video has comments disabled, it's as good as dead. I have no way of knowing anything about it. Just trust the video? Yeah right.\n\nWithout dislikes, I have to painstakingly endure the YT comment section... That is way more damaging to me and the creator to force them to read things to get an idea. \n\nThis move is absolutely astonishingly abysmal. It literally makes no sense from any angle, other then if you are an idiot news agency promoting idiot PR stunts blindly. No one who uses this on either side is happy.", "Idk I can still see all dislikes on every video, can you all not?", "They definitely don’t want to show the dislikes on all the election related stuff coming up. Remember how many dislikes biden would get on the YouTube streams?", "> Ad hominem + throwing hands in the air + patting self on back\n\nRight back at ya 😄\n\n> Also you clearly cared enough to respond and insult me\n\nYup, I definitely cared enough to reply with the same tone as you did. You're so clever for noticing! Do I care what you believe after that though? Not really 😊. \n\nSorry you feel insulted, but if you're gonna go around talking down to people like this:\n\n> What in the fuck are you on about?\n\nDon't be surprised if people don't want to engage with you. Cheers! 😁", "Ah wow.\n\nNow I'm curious to understand how they retain info even when not connected to any power source. Do they have a tiny internal buffer?", "Also “When everyone’s super, no-one will be” - The Incredibles 😁", "We know what the real reason is. \n\n[https://iili.io/5ge5dv.jpg](https://iili.io/5ge5dv.jpg)", "[Here we go again…](https://youtu.be/dTAAsCNK7RA) 😜", "Did they really say that? Oof. Are we gonna ban critic reviews of anything because it hurts the creators feelings? Lol", "You should read my first sentence.", "I'm sure there's a group of people that fantasize about having sex with ducks. If it is 0.000000001% of the population, then for all intents and purposes it does not exist. \n\nYou're creating a fucking dangerous false equivalency between people who just want a more European safety net, and literal fascists that want to overthrow democracy, expand the police state to harass minorities, and are quite clear in their goals of keeping America white.\n\nAnd before you say \"oh well I wasn't referring to THAT radical left\", that's exactly the point. 99.999999% of America would call Sanders \"the radical left\". It's a motte-and-Baily fallacy to heavily imply that social democrats and MTG are the same thing, but then immediately pretend that you're actually referring to the 2 anarchists in a basement when someone pushes back against you.", "Is bad for mental health of corpos trying to push some 'so very cleaver' idea to get more money for certain fraction of people.", "People are dying even with the vaccine, acting like someone not getting the vaccine = spreading covid like an animal is pretty fucking stupid.\n\nMy grandparents and great grandparents are all vaccinated, and they got antibody infusions. They still got covid from their other family members who are also vaccinated.\n\nThe fucking story flips every damn day, at first it was ‘good riddance we’ll live and antivax will die’ then it was ‘damn antivaxxers killing vaccinated people!’ then it turns out that having the vaccine doesn’t even prevent you from getting/spreading the disease. So fucking regardless of how many people get vaccinated, the shit still spreads.\n\nThe vaccine is literally to protect yourself, not others. Acting like people not getting the vaccine somehow amplified an already tremendously contagious variant is batshit crazy.", "Anime watching mouth breather?\n\nWhat because I’m not blind to the manipulation happening on all sides of the political spectrum?\n\nIt’s literally a confirmed fact that Russia and other countries were and still are working both sides of the aisle against eachother. They create fake accounts on the right and say outlandish dumb shit so that the left can vilify the right, then they get on right aligned accounts and do the exact same shit.\n\nTheir only goal is chaos and disruption, and thanks to people like yourself they are successful.", "Yeahh you are right", "I never said your views on vaccinations made you right or left...\n\nLet’s not pretend that the majority of people wishing death on those that are unvaccinated also did so to Trump supporters.\n\nI hate Trump as much as anyone else, but seeing people give into the manipulation of the american people is sickening.", "I mean just say what country you live in and I’m sure I could find more than your fair share of shit that is also happening over here.", "The fucked up part would be the thousands of comments that sound like this:\n\n“LOL thank fuck, he got what was coming to him. Rot in hell!”", "I still can see the number of thumbs up and the number of thumbs down, though, oddly enough.", "It’s because the news and corporations got dislikes so they paid YouTube to remove it", "You literally did. You said that there were leftist radicals who were rejoicing at the darwinism in action. \n\nIt's not \"leftist radicals\", it's the average Joe that's frustrated. You cannot just take anything you disagree with, and then say that radical leftists are the ones doing it and not other \"moderates\".", "colleague asks for sauce", "Ya lives must be going great to be getting up in arms over a fucking dislike bar LMAO.", "Hey\n\nHey\n\nhey\n\n...\n\nCare enough to reply to this too", "The moment you become aware of the rating for your controversial or badly rated content, and you take it serious enough to damage your mental health is the moment you should be aware that your mental health is already compromised.", "https://telegr.im/joinchat/ZFRnItoS3MdjM2Vh", "I've worked in infosec for 15 years at some of the biggest companies man. I read phrack and white papers, RFCs and almost never YouTube unless it's some talk from Ionescu about windows internals. \n\nSo what do you do that you're watching videos all day? Are you threat Intel or something?", "Bannon is literally trying to turn Brazil for a western new world order. Are you really both siding this?", "I never even thought of this.. Not to put a tinfoil hat on but I wonder if that's their intention. I figured it was to increase ad revenue because people have to filter through shit videos to find a good one. More views = more ads", "Eh. In the long run it’ll probably just encourage better metric measurements and more meaningful engagement to fill the void. If it doesn’t, people will just go somewhere else to find what they want. \n\nBesides, now that it’s gone, everyone is acting like the dislike button isn’t aggressively abused every day. I’m not saying I agree with the removal, but it’s insultingly disingenuous to pretend that it’s not a regularly abused metric and terrible measurement of authenticity already.\n\nEdits: Clarification and structure. \n\nDownvotes. Shocking… /s", "Did we forget that people know how to read ? I usually always read comments during these videos because the dislike counter doesn’t give me much info", "I just copy-pasted this from the video's description, lol. It's not MY words, so your guess is as good as mine.", "I had a feeling the edit wasn't going to last... But this 100% is what was there, copy and pasted.", "Seems like the kind of behavior YouTube could identify and fix.\n\nRemoving the dislike but keeping reporting as is would still cause the same ban issues you're talking about, right?", "> “mental health” angle\n\nI've seen a girl cry because her video got more dislikes than likes. I'm a bad person, I had to leave the room so I could quietly laugh.", "Or how about cpr in an emergency", "23 november", "Dislikes are still there though?", "I guess it just depends on how you learn best. \n\nI've been trying to come up with a cool analogy for this, and I'm stumped. But basically I read forums and articles to learn about things I need a general awareness of or need to be able to provide a basic opinion on. For things that require me to have a deeper understanding, or to be a potential SME on, I need to watch videos on them. I guess I could just probably read more, but it helps being able to multi-task with videos on in the background. \n\nFor example, I can't go into specifics for OPSEC reasons, but let's say the chief architect wants to use something in the baseline that can affect the use of Kubernetes pods as Jenkins agents. Now, how can you make a decision on it without knowing what that is? I don't want to walk into the ERB and get destroyed for not knowing anything about what I'm recommending. \n\nNow you have two options if you don't know what that means...you can start reading up on how it actually works and go through forums and articles...and maybe you'll have a decent grasp of it. Or you can also just type that into YouTube and get [this link that tells you everything you need to know.](https://youtu.be/ZXaorni-icg) in 25 minutes. This isn't a real world example, obviously...since I'm leaving out most of the entire change management process, but hopefully that makes sense? \n\nSorry. I hope I didn't come across as condescending. That was a very relevant question, and I appreciate you taking the time to ask it.", "I don't understand why any of that matters. OK, so the ratio for LTT might not mean the same as for Casey Neistat or Sniperwolf or whatever. And?\n\nThe options are, no number or some number. I don't see how a potentially inaccurate number is worse than none, and whether or not there's sufficient volume remains to be seen. The creator expressed intent to get a mobile version going, willingness to work with YouTube Vanced's devs if they want to use this API - I would guess that means they'd be willing to let other plugins, apps, etc use it too.\n\nAt this point it's all speculative. Maybe it will work poorly, maybe it will still be useful. Maybe YouTube will realize their folly and do a 180, if only to ensure there's no secondary source these \"downvote brigade trolls\" that are supposedly the reason for the change, can look to or start gaming.", "When we are talking about a video with thousands of dislikes over positive, that's not honestly something I find a defeat. Give them the work.", "Unfortunately I have come from a history of reading articles and technical matter. From chemistry to physics to infosec so that's how I learn best and I know most my peers I respect are the same way. That's not saying I don't appreciate security tube or live overflow for general topics but it's not how I learn. I need to read manuals and tech specs, I just zone out to videos. \n\nIf you had asked me how to secure k8s then I'd be reading their documentation and then NIST security guide. It's mostly the same concepts as any other app or netsec related topic. Maybe it's just I've been doing this for a long time but I just can't watch youtubes generally. Give me a slide deck and I'll just research it myself, most infosec people aren't great at presenting details unfortunately", "Just guessing here...but what generation are you? I'm a millennial, and I agree. The only other ones that prefer videos are around my age. Most of my older colleagues say they rarely ever watch videos and instead prefer reading. I try to balance both, but a guy I work closely with around double my age said he usually only watches videos when he has to for training purposes lol", "Older millenial yes. I just get distracted easily so I it take more time to rewatch then re read if I missed something. I also like the physical aspect of finding something and not searching a transcript or video for what I need", "After almost 10 years of learning and entertainment said goodbye to youtube, the whole platform is unusable for me now", "The creator mentioned YouTube Vanced. The Vanced apps are reverse engineered versions of the official Google APKs. They're the first-party apps, with some features added.\n\nAnyway, that's not true. They are only using the API to get the official dislikes. Once that gets shut off, there's nothing they'll need it for.", "Just like how all chat is removed from video games, this generation has become just too sensitive", "That's a valid point. I've only been in my current role for a few years, so I'm still relatively new to the field. I'm hoping one day, I'll get to the point where I mostly only need a refresher or an article or two to update myself on what has changed. I can relate to the distraction thing for sure, which is why I mostly only read when I'm at home and can't have people walking into my office.", "You definitely will. It's a fun field with lots of paths to pursue too. Wishing you the best!", "Thanks, I appreciate it! Also appreciate the courteous exchange. Not very often that different opinions in the comments on Reddit ends on respectful peaceful terms lol", "Sorry, did you even read what we're talking about? It adds back the dislike count...", "For sure. Was in a bad mood last night so I apologize for what I said if it seemed mean. Always down to help a fellow infosec nerd, and come visit us at r/netsec", "Do they just want ppl to watch more crap than they could and should have? In any case- fuck monopolies", "Frailty is not an asset.", "Well they definitely didn’t do it for the sake of small YouTube channels, lol. Promoter videos and YouTube’s own videos have been assfucked by downvotes for years, and yet they’re only doing it now? It’s very suspicious they only just NOW did this in the immediate wake of covid videos being mass downvoted. If it was as simple as shadowbanning accounts then they would’ve just done that a long time ago.", "My understanding is there's something like that on motherboards. Most of the computer wants to have miniscule amounts of power.\n\nThat being said, the degradation isn't instant. From my hazy recollection you've got a couple years before it's noticable.", "Agreed. Biden and his supporters are deranged.", "Dude why are you changing the goal posts? I never said there was \"literally no radical left\" . YOU did. And that is a false statement. You understand what literally means right? if you misspoke, that's not my fault mate. \n\nBut to act like there isnt is disingenuous at best and dangerous at worst. I voted Bernie, I don't think he's radical", "In American discourse, there literally is no radical left. Just like how in American discourse, there is no \"duck fucking caucus\". \n\nMeanwhile, half of elected Republicans voted to overthrow the election.", "Is it just me or does youtube still show dislikes on every video I've seen?", "Not me🤔", "Did the island boys ever stop to think what I would feel when they made that video?", "I was replying to your comment above, which had nothing to do with the extension ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯", "Define valuable. You're acquiring more data but is it relevant? If a video is 'bad' and has like 20 million negative comments, are you actually gaining any actionable insights? A majority of people posting negative comments aren't doing it to help the content provider.\n\nIs it more harmful though? Unequivocally yes.", "I have hated youtube tutorials for IT. fuck.that.shit. give me ctrl f.", "\"Just suffer, but not too loudly ok? Please be compliant otherwise papa might have to take action 😊\"", "It's almost like it's intentional", "That’s an interesting idea actually. Displaying dislikes that it’s collected for any particular video that it stores for all the users who use the extension. I think it’d be a massive undertaking to create because the extension would get millions of writes every minute depending on how popular it is.", "I miss annotations a lot.", "The button is still there but doesn't show the number. On the mobile app too.\n\nMaybe its as of today at a certain time", "i actually love youtube for that, not youtube in itself but that snl sketches and late night tv segments are on there for free.\n\nneither of those are things i would ever watch the whole way through, but sometimes they have really great moments.", "It does have to do with the extension. The extension adds a way of gauging dislike.\n\nIf you are asking about how you'd gauge which videos are most disliked, the answer at least for now, is, with this extension and the API they created for it.", "I made it up. Its a fake video to give a dumb example. Don't get to excited lol.", "So many ways they could've made it if it was to benefit small creators. Most obvious ones are make it opt-in and show the dislikes if you grow past a set threshold of subscribers", "It’s literally 100% accurate now until they remove it from the API. The value is still the same.", "Getting creators to turn off comments so people stop wasting their time and start watching more ads.", "What I meant is, it's immaterial because they're already hiding the count. Once this part of the API is shut off, this plugin's API will have the most accurate figure that's available.", "Yep.", "That part I was aware, but an SSD retains information even when not attached to a mobo. That's why I was wondering \"how tf does it store info\". \n\n\nIt's pretty damn crazy", "Meh, Duckduckgo is superior, and one day a company will take youtube out. Apple and MS \"failed\" because they are part of the same problem, not the solution as some might hope.", "I could literally make a Youtube channel for pedophiles and it will only receive likes and no dislikes. People will then think my content is flawless without the dislike feature.", "I assume a point of data has higher value if it is entered than if it's just a button clicked just for the fact it takes more energy to do. I don't know how well negative data is utilized. \n\nIt is definitely more harmful to remove the dislike for a variety of reasons.", "The ice caps have been predicted to all melt ten times over since it was said the first time, it's similar to those that feel they have predicted the coming of Christ every time he doesn't show up someone has a new prediction. The us has turned its air and water quality around from what many would say past the point of no return if it were like it was now a mere half century ago. I don't have a problem with regulations until they become so numerous they are suffocating,", "Something will come along eventually. It’s inevitable. Especially if VR becomes more commonplace.", "The difference between this and predicting the coming of Christ is that there are decades of scientific data and empirical evidence backing this up, and we continue to see more evidence. Also, very few scientists have predicted the end of the world from climate change would happen on a certain date, then it didn't, whereas people continue to predict the return of Christ literally every day for centuries. Every time someone says Christ is returning, they are basing it on anything but hard science, and there is no emerging data showing that Christ will return (or that he was ever resurrected for that matter). You are literally equating religion with science, which is a false equivalency. Sure, Al Gore and others might have made predictions that have not come true, but that doesn't negate all the hard evidence we have. Furthermore, we have tons of evidence of melting ice caps and rising oceans. This is something you cannot deny. You can argue that rising global temps, melting ice caps, and rising oceans are all naturally occurring, not caused mainly by humans, and nothing to worry about, although science would disagree, but you cannot say that the ice caps aren't melting. Just because climate change extremists have falsely predicted the entire meltdown of the ice caps doesn't mean they aren't melting, and it doesn't mean that climate change isn't real and urgently needs to be addressed.\n\nThere aren't many other scientific subjects that see such a consensus throughout the entire scientific community, and this consensus has only increased over the years. When the vast majority of scientists believe something to be true, and there is so much irrefutable evidence that both the earth's climate is warming at a pace never before seen and that it's almost certainly caused or at least greatly exacerbated by human activity, I'm inclined to side with science. If you have peer-reviewed scientific articles refuting climate change, though, please do share.\n\nI don't really give a fuck though. I'm only gonna live another ~50 years tops and I'm not having kids, so the earth can experience a heat death for all I care. I'll be long dead. I just hate seeing science denied, especially when it's due to the subject becoming politicized, as everything does in the US sadly. Democrats and Republicans both have played the issue for their own political gain, so now there's this denial of hard, unbiased science, just like with covid and vaccines. \n\nFinally, if you look at all the different solutions to climate change that are most popular in the scientific community, most of them have to do with policy changes, particularly moving away from fossil fuels for transportation and significantly reducing greenhouse gas emissions, which mostly come from Big Agriculture. Most changes being proposed would not impact your personal life very much, unless you are making lots of money from selling gas and oil or own a corporate cattle farm or something. And yet, while scientists have long been busy collecting data and formulating plans to deal with climate change, we have a huge portion of the population with no real scientific background insisting that the issue doesn't exist, either because that's what their favorite politicians have told them or because they believe their intuition trumps actual scientific fact.", "He was the “intern” \nNot sure if the creators or the kid in the video made the edit. Something tells me it would be the “kid”", "Lol", "What’s next down votes?", "I've never had the problem you are talking about. \n\nMaybe it was buggy at launch and all of you boomer couldn't stand a new thigns and never bother to try it years later? or even days ?", "You're not taking this very cereal", "I like Raisin Bran", "Do you have any idea of what kind of carbon footprint raisins and bran flakes produce?", "...But plenty of people still kill their own meat... you're just fortunate enough that you can just go to the shops. \nDo you really need evolution taught to you again to understand that that's really just not how it works?", "No, but I hope it's fuckin huge.", "Just throw a whole shitload of beef in each bowl and drive around in a giant SUV for no reason while you eat it", "Driving for fun these days ain't like it used to be, even at 20-30 mpg depending on vehicle I use. But hey it could be worse but biden did approve a shitload of federal land drilling, even more than the mean orange guy. Just as long as it's moved via buffets trains.", "Show me a pic of dislikes helping you avoid a sketchy video.\n\nOh wait, the dislikes bar is removed.", "Shit, my Honda barely gets above 30 mpg. I miss my old manual transmission. That barely got around 30 mpg but the clutch was phenomenal, way more fun to drive. And yeah, it is pretty funny how democrats throw a shit fit when a Republican does anything that might hurt the environment, but if a Democrat does the same, no big deal. Just polarized two party American politics as usual, where your \"side\" can do no wrong and the other \"side\" can't do anything right, while in the mean time both sides fuck the average citizen and the country for their own personal gain. Business as usual, nothing to see here, move along.\n\nIt was so dumb when posts on social media went viral claiming that Biden cancelled XL pipeline construction after a large donation from Buffett, which never actually happened. In fact, Buffett donated to Hillary and Obama's campaigns, but he snubbed Biden. Ouch.", "People use the app because they don’t know they have options. Everyone thinks everything is an app. Websites don’t exist.\n\nThis type of transition is used by many companies. Apple won’t “upgrade” old UI elements on their older devices because it would confuse older users that are used to the older elements. Like in the newer iPads, the volume buttons change relative to the orientation of the iPad, but on older models, the volume buttons are fixed. Changing this in an update would confuse users used to the old system.", "Reading through the comments, it was interesting to see where people laid the blame for YouTube pushing such a seemingly bad idea. Particular political figures, the government in general, unpopular celebrities, advertisers, et cetera.\n\nI don't actually have an opinion on the reason just yet. I don't think I even have anything to add to the discussion. More than anything, I'm frustrated at how hard it is to figure out the actual truth of anything like this. Deceit and obfuscation aren't new problems, but they still frustrate the hell out of me, and things like this are particularly needling.", "That's immaterial because they aren't offering to keep them around.\n\nThis author seems to be expressing intent to work with others, they explicitly mentioned the Vanced team (which hacks the official Google Android APKs to add features). Ergo, it may be that this self-selection ends up not to be so much the case.", "It makes the hate parades harder to gamify. I hope for a better solution to replace this, but this is better than doing nothing.", "True. It seems like YouTube doesn't do a whole lot to help smaller (and even medium sized) creators. Lots of complaining videos over the years IIRC.", "I think you’d be surprised to find out just how many people use the official Reddit app and don’t know there’s alternatives.", "Did you even use it ? \n\nBut sure buddy let's say it's broken and it never works even tho it's force on every new redditors and no one is seen complaining apart from those that are saying \"it was better before\".", " And what happens when bots control what is exposed and what is not. \n\nThe bots decide \"what is great\"", "The newest tactic in social engineering, manufacturing consent, and consumerism.", "There's going to be many poor souls who stumble onto helpful diy", "That was a good year!", "Description contains a bad word", "This contains a bad word", "It seems like by removing a way for users to filter for engaging/high quality content they simply remove the incentive for creators to make engaging high quality content." ]	1,906	videos	The oldest video on YouTube ("Me at the zoo" - Apr 2005) changes its description in response to the removal of dislikes
https://youtu.be/gjvywPW39tg	/r/videos/comments/qzrefu/futurama_making_it_bigger_does_not_make_it_clear/	[ "“Mr. president, what the hell”", "Making it bigger can make is clear if we blindly trust computer algorithms to insert pixels based on what the algorithm interprets as the most likely pixel to insert.\n\nBy the way, this technology can be incredibly helpful to aid in investigations, but should never be allowed to be used in court as evidence.", "AROOOOOOO", "Noone associated this with the Kyle Rittenhouse trial yet!?!?\n\n\\torches comment section's innocence\\\n\nBURRRRRN! BURRRRRN! BUAHAHAAHAHAA!", "Edgy.", "I forgot Nixon calls Kif \"Reptilicus\". lol", "The glove joke at the beginning is great. Never got that gag before", "whoa, are you fun at parties or WHAT!", "_[waggles jowls angrily]_", "The best part is when they use bicubic interpolation for enlargements in court and don't know why they shouldn't.", ">Ohh I just wish I understood why... why I should care\n\nThis is my attitude towards most things", "Good eye! Futurama has so many amazing sight gags. For those of you who have never watched Futurama, this is a callback to a joke from episode 8 of the first season. Now, stop reading my comment and go watch Futurama.", "what episode is this?", "Season 6 Episode 2 In-a-Gadda-Da-Leel", "Pluto is there too :')", "I knew 8 Bit Guy was a fan but wasn't aware of the reference.", "I still enjoyed back in the day that in US jury selection they ask what tv shows you watch and if you say stuff like \"CSI Miami\" you are more prone to being dismissed from jury selection as opposed to saying you watch the Simpsons or Futurama.\n\nThe power of TV rules all", "It made people feel smarter than they are … super bad got it right with the DNA evidence if you jacked off while committing a crime and they had your DNA in the database ya you can get caught", "The apocalypse would be if CSI had a pseudo science episode that worked to solve a crime and was glorified.\n\nI wouldnt it past an anti-vaxxers or homeopathic doctor lobbying a script on one of those shows.\n\nJust imagine the impact the furry episode of CSI Vegas had on those unaware such a thing existed", "Just to point out the continuity. Urectum is one of the planets at 1:14", "His username checks out" ]	21	videos	Futurama - Making It Bigger Does Not Make It Clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QWEukxv_EE	/r/videos/comments/qzrfok/arcane_was_more_masterpiece_than_even_riot/	[ "Okay so Im not the only who thought “Wow this is really fast.” Straight up it was only 9 episodes. That did not feel like it was less than 10 episodes. \n\nBut yes, what an amazing show. Just wow.", "At first I was gonna be a little mad because the show was one of the best animated series I had seen. \n\nBut I get what the guy is saying. It had so many great pieces that they could have let expand so we could be even more invested. That actually makes a lot of sense.", "Haha yeah no it's one of those \"It was so good, their brilliant show got away from them type of moments.\"\n\nBut I think the reason I like the idea is because the show is all about relationships and they are rushing those awesome relationships. They do need to slow down.", "The first 6 episodes are damn near flawless. It gets a liiiiiiiittle over the top and sappy at some parts in the final 3, but the brilliant action sequencing makes up for it.", "eh, the story and characters are fairly standard stuff, i dont think most people found that part of it to be outstanding.\n\nit's how well produced it is, the animation, the art, the music, the action sequences, the cinematography that was impressive.\n\na few sequences of it immediately make an argument to be among the best i've ever seen in any animation. Jinx vs. Little Man fight, Vi and Jayce fight sequence, young Vi and crew trying to save Vander and Powder's bomb, some really amazing stuff.\n\nand btw this is coming from a lifelong Dota fan with an admitted bias against League (the game). can't deny how great this show was. a great example of a huge budget actually being put to good use.", "It's more of a mini-series. I'm glad the story had a narrow focus instead fo jamming every character they possibly could into some sappy toy commercial.", "Agree. The conversation with Victor and Jayce felt long as is with all the action and intrigue going on. We get what they are saying, move on to the next cool part of the story.\n\nThey could have done full on stories for lots of other characters and built them out more, but that isnt what this show is about, its about all of them impacting the story, every single one. For example, they show the guard that sold out's family for a few seconds, but three episodes later it still hits hard when he dies, versus building him into a big character. No need. Not every show needs to be Game of Thrones and do lots of slow things to build up to a few big things. This show had lots of big things.", "I think the reason the story and characters were a big deal to people is Riot is always known for their cinematic quality. They are the best in the business. But the story kept people in it. Im not going to watch 8 hours of League's cinematic trailer quality. \n\nIt got 100% on RT because it was a more gripping story than anyone expected. Everyone was expecting it to be \"beautiful but hollow\" and it was not that at all.\n\nI was more invested in characters and relationships than I was expecting from Riot.", "But dont get me wrong, the fight sequences were outstanding. It's just that the stuff in between is what kept me from turning it off and YouTubing \"Arcane fight scenes\".", "Yeah but it is getting a second season so I would say if they slowed down just a bit it would be rewarding for them. Not a ton, just a bit. This was a lot for 9 episodes to go through.", "I dont think I minded the emotional parts because they were alluding to it the whole time. I enjoyed the culmination of consequences that the first 6 episodes led up to it. If you are going to show her turning into Jinx, ya better freaking earn it. \n\nI feel like if you actually say out to yourself what was happening in the show, the over the top emotional moments actually make a lot of sense.", "I actually didn't mind the emotion being there, it just seemed a bit heavy handed and underwritten in the final eps. I write quite a bit myself so I'm usually a little more sensitive to the writing quality in shows that a lot of folks seem to be able to take or leave. The writing and character articulation in 1-6 is like a masters course in how to make characters in an unbelievable setting seem believable. It drops off a little in 7-9 but I would in no way shape or form say it wasn't good.\n\nAll in all, this was arguably the most pleasant surprise of a show I've seen. I play LoL on and off, so I gave it a quick shot. It blew me away. Cheers to the staff.", "I liked the pace. Just give me the good parts, skip the boring stuff. I want to see the beautiful art style and fights. The show is perfect as it is in my opinion." ]	13	videos	Arcane was more Masterpiece than even Riot expected. You can tell by how much they rushed such a great first season.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e4wxAmVPRL0&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qzrgj5/the_guy_who_shot_reagan_sings_cant_we_get_along/	[ "I think he may be worse at singing than assassinating,if that's possible.", "A goddamn American Hero.", "“John Lennon murdered, John Kennedy murdered, Martin Luther King murdered, Gandhi murdered, Jesus murdered…..Ronald Reagan….wounded.”—Bill Hicks", "Couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.", "If this guy wants to get famous he needs better song titles.. like \"I shot the president\"", "The only thing John Hinckley did wrong was miss.", "He didn't miss. It was a weapon/ammo combo choice error. He decided to use .22lr with exploding tips, which are fairly unreliable. The one that hit Brady in the head went off, the one that went into Reagan's chest did not. If he'd used a .45 or .38 it'd be a whole different story.", "Ah thank you for the correction, I will restate.\n\"The only thing John Hinckley did wrong was use an incorrect combination of weapon/ammo.\"", "He sings as well as he shoots. Poorly, but with his heart in the right place.", "Fair enough. He exploited the lax tactical environment the Secret Service commonly allowed to happen due to Reagan's desire to remain in contact with the public. And if you don't care about escaping/living, there really isn't much they can do to stop a determined assassin. The exploding tip thing is just the kind of gimmick an amateur would be impressed by, but the thing about amateurs is that they are unpredictable and will often succeed on that basis alone. Also, he is crazy as a shithouse rat.", "I was being cheeky with my initial comments, but I am very much enjoying the information you're dishing out here. \nAbsolutely right, an experienced shooter would not attempt anything as serious as this with a gimmicky round like an exploding .22lr. That caliber is unreliable enough in anything but the most purpose built arms, to think you'd try something goofy like an exploding tip, betrays how goody his mental state is.\n\nNow, let's talk about how JFK wasn't actually assassinated by LHO, but was really shot by a negligent discharge committed by a hung over (possibly still drunk) secret service agent handling a brand new weapon he had little training or experience with.", "I've heard that JFK theory before. Haven't really looked into it much, but on the surface, it seems fairly credible. Or rather there isn't much that disqualifies it right off the bat and it has the charm of immediately getting the people most directly involved and equipped to assess the situation on the ground in charge of the effort to keep it quiet. Imagine what would have happened at the time if it got out that a bodyguard fired the shot. Nobody would ever believe it was accidental. It would make the conspiracy theories we have now look like a Spongebob episode plot. No telling how the Soviets would exploit the inevitable civil disorder. If it did go down that way, I think they made the right call keeping it secret. Shit would have been all fucked up, yo.", "Exaactly, all that aside, it would have been the most intensely embarrassing possibility for the United States to have to handle on the international stage. \n\nIt's been a while since I went through the theory, but it has quite a bit to support it, and very few holes. I tell you, I'm more or less a believer. If you want a fun/entertaining walk through the theory, there's a podcast I enjoy that has a few episodes on it. \"The Last Podcast on the Left\", look for the JFK series.", "Excellent, got a road trip coming up and I always like to have a few podcasts on tap. The miles just fly by.", "Oh yeah I used to drive for work and the podcasts were instrumental. Between Last Podcast and Dan Carlin's Hardcore History, I had all the edutainment I could handle.", "I don't care for his music, but I enjoy his other work.", "I don't see Jodie Foster dating him after this...", "So wild to see almost all the comments here joking and supporting the assassination of a US President and the mods doing literally nothing to stop it but I guess thats just Reddit nowadays. \n\nI didn't like Regan, but talking about trying to end someone's life regardless of the situation is vile.", "And may he rest in peace with Nancy" ]	20	videos	The guy who shot Reagan sings "Can't We Get Along"
https://youtu.be/ug02cqP69V4	/r/videos/comments/qzrhu9/larry_david_is_ok_with_women_who_only_love_fame/	[ "I could have sworn the Quasimodo bit was turned into an actual sketch that I've seen, but for some reason I can't find it now.", "He did this bit on SNL in 2017 I think.", "Larry is George", "2012" ]	5	videos	Larry David Is OK With Women Who Only Love Fame \| CONAN on TBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGFtV6-ALoQ	/r/videos/comments/qzrsc5/its_time_for_the_turkey_drop_wkrp/	[ "Oh the humanity!!", "This will never stop being funny.", "Classic.", "Such a classic! Loved that show. Knew that episode immediately.", "\"As God as my witness....\"", "That was a great show. So many good episodes", "Any time someone starts with this, in the back of my head I'm thinking, \"... I thought turkeys could fly.\"", "I watched every season of this show because of this episode.", "Same." ]	9	videos	It's Time for the Turkey Drop - WKRP
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzs7d4/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzs7d4/deleted_by_user/	[ "stop reposting custer", "Op is a straight ass custer", "its new to me, who be op?" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6Jha0NJHk	/r/videos/comments/qzs9xi/the_lead_singer_for_creed_scott_stapp_wrong_a/	[ "This can't be real.\n\n\nOh my god, it's real", "Florida for ya.", "The word \"soar\" sounds very close to \"suck\" here", "This sounds like someone doing a parody of Creed.", "🤣", "If you look closely, there are zero typos in the title of this post", "This title is an experience as well.", "Definitely Wikipedia’d ‘Baseball’ while writing this…", "That's because he's like mentally ill, suffering from substance abuse, and thought Obama was out to kill him for a while.\n\nHere's his \"public statement\" from a while ago: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVVqS0WNVRM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVVqS0WNVRM)", "His best song is Bread of Shame.", "\"A diving catch, a stolen base.\" This is the worst thing I've ever heard. I've heard and seek out bad shit regularly. This wins, honestly.", "Oh my god he's absolutely saying \"suck\" here.", "Yeah, he \"wronged\" this song alright.", "As a big fan, I was afraid that would be it, that the next thing we would bear from him is that he's been found dead or sth. \nBut thankfully, he is stable and sober now. He was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and and has been treating it since then and has been sober for about 5 or 6 years now. He is doing very well and better than he has ever been." ]	14	videos	The lead singer for Creed, Scott Stapp, wrong a song for the MLB team the Florida Marlins. It's... an experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A	/r/videos/comments/qzskkr/astartes_warhammer_40k_fan_film_syama_pedersen/	[ "This shit is so fucking good", "SOOOO GOOD", "This was just one guy, imagine a whole production company... as long as they stay true to the source material it would be the greatest thing since LOTR, Star Wars, Star Trek, Dune and all the rest", "He has been hired by Games Workshop to make a sequel.\n\nBlood for the Blood God!", "i know nothing about Warhammer and I loved this", "I'm glad that they show not only the superhuman strength, but the speed and all-around athleticism of the Astartes. Usually power armor is shown as slow and clumsy!", "Down the rabbit hole you go :)", "Is there a part 2 to this? Why arent the people behind warhammer making a series out of this?", "[This video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BrmJqY788Fc) was super helpful for me as someone who had no fucking idea what was going on but loved every minute of it.", "There were a bunch of moments in the new Dune movie that seemed really 40k-ish. This Astartes project is absolutely amazing, no question - but i think the Dune team needs adapt it into live action.", "Sadly it will never be finished. GW's lawyers made him an offer he couldn't refuse to give it up", "There will be no continuation or sequel. GW bought it to kill it.", "To give it up? I thought that he was now working with them on an official level, which is why we hadn't seen another vid so far. That would be disappointing as heck because while I may know next to nothing about Warhammer, his vids are incredible still.", "Can someone explain what that ball was and where the marine ended up??", "They employed him. He’s working on their new streaming platform.", "Oh 40k was massively inspired by dune, and when I say inspired the original games and lore was basically an rip off.\n\nStarted to diverge pretty early and become its own thing but the core is still very much there.", "this is actually the longform edit of many parts, these are all made by one guy. he's since been asked (see: demanded) to stop by the people behind actual Warhammer 40k, and i believe radio silent.", "That’s horrible. Why would they do that?", "That’s stinks. I would watch more.", "That ball: an alien entity. It communicated with the other ball we see (the one the inquisitor guy is hooked up to with his cables).\n\nWhere the marine ended up: no one knows for sure. My favorite guess is something related to [these guys](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/C%27tan)", "It's a thing that happens all the time in the business world.\n\nIf you see some small indie/startup that could pose a legitimate threat at being a competitor, you just buy it out and then don't do anything with it.\n\nAmazon did it a toooon when it was first gettings its roots down.", "That is wrong, he was hired by Games Workshop to make more of these videos.\n\nhttps://mobile.twitter.com/Astartes40k/status/1369666193989111808", "Just so that you know, the other guy is wrong. Games Workshop hired the animator and he is literally working on a sequel series for them, it just takes a long time to make animations of such quality.\n\nhttps://mobile.twitter.com/Astartes40k/status/1369666193989111808", "They didn't \"make him sign an NDA\", they offered to hire him which he agreed to and now he is leading a team full of people making more of these and actually getting paid for it... the entire reason that he started making animations in the first place.\n\nHe had to take down his original videos because they quite literally used assets from other IP's without permission and GW hosting them unedited would have left them open to copyright lawsuits for profiting off of other peoples work.\n\nAnd they did not \"do the same thing\" to other creators, they reminded them that they were making a career out of GW's IP which they did not have permission to use in the first place. And the content creators who wanted to keep working with the IP could be hired in an official capacity to do so like Syama Pedersen or Richard Boylan.\n\nSodaz who was another popular animator for 40K did the same thing and was working with GW when the 40K community turned on him because of the same misinformation that you posted and he got so many death threats and other hate from idiots that he stopped working with GW and has left 40K entirely." ]	24	videos	Astartes - Warhammer 40k Fan Film (Syama Pedersen)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzss47/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzss47/deleted_by_user/	[ "its true i have looked at the instructions that came with my flat screen and nowhere doese it mention where the valves are", "Would love to read that manual but I can't find it anywhere", "Do you mean like the manual you can find in pdf form on the companies website? Or you want a schematic to adjust picture size, color tint and such? Cause that is now done in software in the t.v.s menus. Or just want a circuit diagram, cause the latter I do agree needs to be made available. Everything else is digital now. Saves on money and on trees.", "Oh god, the circuit diagrams we have now are nothing as simple these days that's for sure. They are beautiful works of art that battle at near quantum levels of perfection. The precision work that is put into our chips and boards is fantastic but also horrifying (in the sense of how ecologically demanding it is to make them)", "Is \"valve\" the British term for vacuum tubes? Never heard that before, although they are a sort of electrical valve in a way, so it makes sense.", "Just to have a general read of it, no particular reason, I just like reading how much details these older manuals go in to compared to manuals these days" ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/2Z0CyB3UN18	/r/videos/comments/qztbfy/i_remember_when_this_aired_and_it_was_the/	[ "You posted it. You have now been cancelled. Goodbye.", "Weird how people whine about getting cancelled when they face no actual consequences except criticism. \n\nIt's not brave to post clips of a kids cartoon show, whether it's racist or not.", "Dafuq are you talking about OP?", "South Park is a kids show?", "Canonically, that character is a white guy doing a terrible accent. I don't know what that means for your point; I just wanted to say canonically.", "South Park and Family Guy both still get new episodes. No one is getting canceled for comedy you fucking baby.", "Yes. No irony or joke there, it's watched by kids, enjoyed by kids, and marketed to kids.\n\nAdults watch it as well. Kids probably shouldn't watch it. But I was a kid when it first came out, and I have kids now. Kids watched it then and now.", "Doesn’t make it a kids show, which it Definitely is not", "What does then? Because I think being watched by and marketed to children, is pretty indicative.", "Didja just need to feel like a victim today, OP?", "Nothing makes it a kids show and it isn’t marketed at kids wtf are you talking about? \n\nmature themes, swearing, over-the-top cartoon violence, potty humor, and innuendo to name a few reasons it isn’t suitable for kids, the dvds are rated 18+ you mad man", "it's certainly marketed to 12-15yos who love exactly all the things you just mentioned", "I never said it was appropriate for kids. I said they are, factually, watching it. I did as a kid. They still are. \n\n>and it isn’t marketed at kids wtf are you talking about? \n\nThe children's clothing and toy sections say otherwise.\n\n>mature themes, swearing, over-the-top cartoon violence, potty humor\n\nYeah, what teenagers would be into that?", "And video games", "OP, y u such a snowflake?", "Ever hear of dave chappelle? Or Michelle Wolf? \n\nWhen did Reddit get so manny nasty stupid people on it?", "He’s a fucking troll he has no clue what he’s saying he just wanted whine", "No, I never have heard of Michelle wolf. And Chapelle has gotten backlash for what some consider hateful speech. Not really comedy. And would you look at that. He's still touring! I would say reddit's stupid people population got out of control the day you registered your account.", "I’m a snow flake 🤣🤣🤣 why aren’t you such a whiny bitch?", "It’s a fanatic show!", "You’re a ducking idiot, no joke or irony there either", "He thinks because kids aren’t able to find porn online that it’s suitable for them too\n\nMy post has been taken over by trolls just like most of Reddit. This has truly turned into Facebook 2.0", "Why aren't I? Because it's a waste of time and energy. Why are your panties twisted over something that's not even happening?", "You’re too stupid to read and comprehend, you’re a good troll, continue being a leach on society", "Here you %#{^} worthless uneducated uniformed ^{%#. \n\nhttps://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/matt-groening-apu-the-simpsons-b1820417.html", "You're both morons and I'm not on your side.", "You really spending your day crying about a cancel culture that's in your head? Get a life. Or a therapist.", "Don't get mad at me because you posted garbage in attempt to cultivate some sympathy for whatever soapbox bullshit agenda you've got going on and everybody trashed you.", "Cancel culture isn’t real. So stop crying.", "Rofl, what a worthless uninformed troll you are", "Michelle Wolf says go fuck yourself", "Yes “everybody” a few trolls with no life who got here first and downvoted…", "Thanks troll who sits on new and downvotes content he doesn’t agree with", "Don’t care if you’re on my side shrug lol" ]	36	videos	I remember when this aired and it was the funniest thing on TV. In today’s climate I can’t post this without being canceled
https://youtu.be/ZDFscOh0_Uc?t=3	/r/videos/comments/qztfws/jetson_one_but_with_actual_audio/	[ "The enemies going to hear you a mile away!!!", "Question for the people with expertise: Does an aircraft such as this benefit from the ground effect, or would ground effect require wings?", "The short answer is \"yes\" but I'm not an expert and I'm sure it's a lot more complicated with rotors.", "Yes, Helicopters can hover with much less effort once riding on a cushion of ground effect air, but that doesn't translate into forward flight the same. I am not a pilot but I do pilot RC Heli's and Quadcopters both can hover with very little head speed compared to higher in altitude. But going forward once sitting on that cushion can be dangerous if you are not ready for it. Rather than transition to forward flight, you would climb to get out of rotor wash and then forward flight.", "Out of all the places to fly this, a narrow corridor of trees is not one of them.", "I could see this being useful for military patrolling over a minefield.", "is this supposed to fool anyone or is it like a parody of vaporware demos?\n\nedit: ok wow, i'm the only one here that can see that this video is fake. i did not expect that. i don't know what to say. the company and has all the hallmarks of being a sham.", "so, not much turning going on there, Luke.", "The military have helicopters...", "Yes - all rotorcraft experience ground effect. However ground effect is a factor within 1/2 rotor diameter of the ground. With helicopters, 1/2 rotor diameter is generally higher than the rotor would be when the helicopter is sitting on the ground, so you have to deal with ground effect when landing helicopters. But with quadcopters, the rotors are much smaller, and so it is possible that the rotor already sits more than 1/2 rotor diameter off the ground, so pilots may not experience it.", "What can this do, what an unmanned, smaller, less loud and overall cheaper drone can do?", "Why would they opt out placing guards around those rotor blades? Safety doesn't seem to be a concern here....", "Finally, a helicopter with none of the speed, altitude, range, transport capacity, or even rudimentary protection against small arms fire, but featuring the stealth and maneuverability of a riding lawnmower and the safety rating of a drunken weekend of ATV racing. Plus landmines.\n\nLike a war machine you'd [mail order from the back of 1980s Spider-man comic book.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVewuL_C0-w)", "Aw man, I thought it was going to be a piss-take with him going, \"Oh shit, ima die, whoh, fuck watch that braaaanch!\"", "Why the hell would they fly it in an area of trees?", "oh look! A Deluxe Flying Coffin", "This is better - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAORARSro_A", "To demonstrate control. An open field is less impressive. No doubt the team started there, but have reached a point where the pilot and engineering team can see the benefit of marketing the control the vehicle is possible of.", "Looks fun. I bet it isn't his first day flying it. A lot of people don't seem to understand that when you are comfortable and familiar with operating a machine, that the risk is minimized. Source: heavy machine operator. Back in my video game days they thought we used aimbots. They just don't understand human potential.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08K_aEajzNA", "Don’t think anyone’s doubting the skill of the pilot.\n\nPeople are critiquing the fucking dangerous design.", "Good point. Would I buy it & fly it for leasure? Probably not. Looks risky. Would I fly it with benefits & pay? Yup.", "We already build a version of this. It's more efficient and is actually safer then an airplane. It's called a helicopter. \n\nIt just does not look like a drone. They think if they make it look like a drone it will sell. And it will. And it will kill people. And then the hype will be over.\n\nQuadcopters don't scale up. They never will. It's physically impossible.", "> A lot of people don't seem to understand that when you are comfortable and familiar with operating a machine, that the risk is minimized.\n\n\nIf your engine dies on a helicopter you can autorotate safely down.\n\nOn these quadcopter if one of them stops spinning you yourself will violently start spinning. And if you lose power you will drop out of the sky like a brick. And you have dead knives spinning all around you rather then above you. \n\nQuadcopter that are small and light work very well. But they don't scale up. This is the reason why insects are small. They stop working when they scale up.\n\nHumans flying in quadcopter or hexacopters is a dumb idea. We already have helicopters, they work great.\n\nIf you want autonomous flying machines, just give some good software system control over a helicopter. \n\nAny descent flight engineer can tell you exactly why humans flying in quadcopter will never be a thing.", "mmm I guess you haven't seen the Cyclotech.\n\nPhysics wise, it's a fascinating design, but it has magnitudes greater mechanical complexity. Questionable efficiency aside, it doesn't appear to have the ability to glide should any of the four rotors fail.\n\n[This comment basically summarizes it](https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qaf7sj/cyclotech_first_flight/hh2sxpq/?context=10000) (flight video is in the thread too)", "Yep. Blows my mind how many companies/people are trying to reinvent the wheel (or for some companies; just cash in, knowing it'll never be a big thing)\n\nHelicopters have a HUGE positive over quadcopters; Autorotation. Meaning if a helicopter loses engine power, it can still 'glide' down and land safely. You basically pitch forward, and trade altitude for speed/rotational velocity in your rotors which basically gives you one good shot to safely slow down/land.\n\nQuadcopters cannot do this, meaning every single invention (using the quadcopter concept) will have to have some other safety feature, probably parachutes that are useless at those low altitudes anyway. The reason actual aircraft are expensive is because of how safe, redundant and certified they are. You have multiple safety systems, backups for other systems, which have all been tested heavily and certified. You can take classes by actual professionals to learn how to properly fly, as well as handling emergencies.", "Yep. Really good book called \"Chickenhawk\", about a pilot in Vietnam. They go over this specific issue. They'd be hooking supplies to their Huey (or simply carrying them inside), and end up too heavy to do anything over than hover 5-10 feet above the ground or so. Any forward momentum or altitude increase would result in them just falling back down.\n\nBasically, anything that pushes air as propulsion (jets, propellers/rotors, etc) can and will benefit from ground effect, assuming it's built that way (obviously a sideways propeller, say on a Cessna could benefit from ground effect if you somehow tilted it down towards the ground, but you're obviously not standing the plane on its tail to test it).\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_(aerodynamics)", "It makes it look like it’s going faster.", "In what world are helicopters safer than planes? We just making shit up now?", "As a helicopter pilot and airplane pilot myself...\n\nI don't think you could say anyone is any safer than the other... There are more accidents in helicopters... But that has to do with Mission envelope... Not so much the aircraft themselves.\n\n Quadcopters... Like stated above.. are a joke safety wise though.", "No, like another comment said ground effect only happens when the aircraft is within half the length of the wingspan from the ground. Its why ridiculously large planes like the spruce goose were able to \"fly\". Half the rotor diameter of this quadcopter would only be like 8 inches.", "Drones are multi rotor craft though, and that is an extremely important distinction between these “flying car-alikes” and helicopters. It’s also why they’re considered so much easier to fly. Anyhow, I do wonder how being a multicopter changes that ground effect distance calculation.", "is there any better proof (any actual evidence at all) that the product even in prototype form actually exists.", "As a Reliability and Safety Analysist for a Tier 1 aerospace manufacturer (if we're throwing credentials behind this). Helicopters are categorically less safe than aeroplanes, by any official measure you wish to use (not some garbled rationale about mission envelope). Which is the point I argued against.", "yes very", "almost as if it is easier to a hold of 8 electrical motors instead of one the size of a fridge", "yes i'll take cesna brick gliding over autorotation thank you", "Next step, flight higher than one meter. That's some scary shit. Imagine being 100m+ high and motor fails. Not high enough for parachute to work and yet high enough to become minced meat upon falling while being strapped to glorified blender.", "Make human mincemeat?" ]	38	videos	Jetson One but with actual audio
https://youtu.be/7tScAyNaRdQ	/r/videos/comments/qztoi6/theyre_made_out_of_meat/	[ "[Ben Bailey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bailey) not in his cash cab. Awesome skit.", "[Ben Bailey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bailey) \n \n >Benjamin Ray Bailey (born October 30, 1970) is an American comedian. He is best known for hosting the Emmy Award-winning game show Cash Cab in New York City.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "That is an uncanny resemblance to Peter Dinklage.", "Thief is excellent.", "Bravo! Meat finds this video entertaining.", "The original short story this is based on: https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html", "This short film never made sense to me. In [the original story](https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html), I always pictured aliens surveying the earth from above, with one alien relaying to the other what he saw down on earth. If the aliens are already on earth and disguised as humans then why are they surprised that they're made out of meat? It's just a strange choice in adapting the story.", "Am I going crazy or is that Chris from The Wire stacking cards in the background?", "That's him?!", "To me the absurdity is the appeal…", "Yep! I spotted him as well. He’s named in the credits.", "The absurdity of the joke that humans being made of meat is a strange occurrence in the universe is very funny to me. Them being disguised as humans just feels like a way they could keep the budget low, but it doesn't make sense from a story perspective.", "they are never shown interacting with anyone. I just assumed they were some kind of light construct or hologram.", "I've always really liked this short story. For some reason that quote and the way the actor delivers 'They're made out of meat' really sticks with me. \n\nThe alien on the band uniform was also Cain in Robocob 2 for anyone wondering.", "In the meat.", "Completely agree.", "Tom Noonan, don’t need to make sense. Tho I see your point of view. But one could argue that it’s impossible to understand the construction of another merely on sight. Eg: terminator models, are machines, but with fleshy clothes.", "Also the alien in the band outfit is Cain from Robocop 2.", "I was thinking that too, except Noonan is oh so very tall. The remake of Twins, starring Peter Dinklage and Tom Noonan. I called it!", "Which one is debatable", "I love scifi, but I have never seen the appeal of this short story. In what context of the universe is \"meat\" not capable of these things? Like what would \"meat\" be if not from organic, reproducing lifeforms? How would inter-dimensional/stellar conscious beings be surprised that \"meat\" could lead to sentience? I get that the concept of the story is to display absurdity in the trope that all beings would be carbon-based organic life, but being confused about \"meat\" just seems silly.", "I think that’s why it works so well in short story form, so we don’t have to imagine every detail.", "Exactly. I read it quite some time ago, before I ever saw this. And this just fits so well. It struck me like one the the recent (90s) outer limits or twilight zone shorts.", "Peter Dinklage's full meat brother.", "Was he the Axe guy from Last Acton Hero?", "Change the story from \"meat\" to \"wood\" and that it's humans finding an island full of sentient trees, but something very un-human, not like ents -- \"are you sure it's not just an outer layer over an animal or large slime mold\" \"maybe it's actually some instinctual autonomous response like a venus fly trap and not sentience\", \"you're saying all the squeaking and creaking are words? How do they hear, with wooden ears?\". \n\nThe aliens know what meat is, it's apparently something that exists throughout the universe but is plant-like everywhere else...except earth, where somehow it's sentient.", "Maybe they’re robots made to look like meat.", "Perfect for a drinking game then.", "As much as I love this story and the indomitable Ben Bailey, I've always been partial to this version. \n\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GggK9SjJpuQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GggK9SjJpuQ)", "The music absolutely makes this for me. The spooky noir feel is excellent in itself, but the really beautiful part is when it pulls to the exterior, and we see the sax is actually being played by some meat the car park, providing the soundtrack to a pair of lovers. The aliens briefly take in this surreal scene before departing. I love it.\n\nThe artist is Bob Reynolds:\n\nhttps://soundcloud.com/bobreynolds/sets/theyre-made-out-of-meat", "Right, but wood is literally plant meat. And I don't have to stretch my imagination very far to envision plant-based sentience.", "My impression is that the diner and everybody except Director and Agent are simulations or recordings. The 'immersive experience' is also part of the report by the Agent beyond the dialogue.", "Wow, I did not know that I needed this!", "Oh shit it's Tom Noonan!", "I had this exact same thought. Like... wait. You aliens have never, ever in all the life of the universe seen life arise in this manner before?\n\nUh, just can't suspend the disbelief here.", "It's based on a short story where the aliens were not made of meat. It makes a lot more sense that way.", "I take it as them just being synthetics. Not real meat, as it where. Just mimicking the externals. Guy in red is stationed to observe. Guy in black comes down from the spaceship to report the probe experiment.\n \nI find it to be a good example of how storytelling trumps logic sometimes. They are staging this on earth to show you the contrast between alien and human. The guy in red trying his best to fit in (love the wardrobe choice there), their awkward bodylanguage, juxtaposed with humans just being their weird selves. For all of this you need the right stage to show it. \nThey are also doing the play with humans since we emotionally connect with humans way better than CG aliens or puppets. It's been done, but on a budget though?", "I thought it was the Austrian actor from Django Unchained.", "Guy on the right is Ben Bailey who later went on to do Cash Cab. Guy on the left is Tom Noonan, one of those actors who shows up in everything. He was the psycho mob boss in RoboCop 2, the psycho killer in Last Action Hero, the psycho psychic child molester in The X-Files, the psycho cultist in 12 Monkeys the series, you get the idea.", "WTF isn't that the Cash Cab guy???", "I assumed they were robots and the only organic creatures were simply non-sentient.", "Lol has no one here recognized Chris Pratt yet?!", "Probably when he says, \"Who wants to meet meat\"", "One of the best short stories I've read.", "Awesome.\n\nI have been randomly mentioning this short story since like a decade ago. I am so glad people are enjoying the absurdly brilliant concept more and more often.\n\nThis comment was brought to you by meat appendages slapping on some kind of magic science device made by other meat people with meat appendages._ _ _ _", "The only thing he was ever good in was Cash Cab", "Alas, we thus far only have a sample size of 1 for what a biosphere looks like, so scifi writers have taken every possible version. Earth life is weak or strong, common or unique, or dead average all around, or where humans are peaceful or warlike, strong or puny, clever or dumb, and every shade in between.\n\nAlso, I think the idea is that while meat is pretty common, none of it elsewhere is very smart. Earth has the smartest meat in the universe.", "meat sounds", "Red light chaaaalleeeeeeeenge!", "Is that regular-sized Tyrion?", "This comment was read by a meat brain using two jelly filled meat balls. The meat balls can adjust the hole size in them without letting the liquid jelly run out. Fascinating.", "Dude c'mon\n\nYeah you can \"envision\" it but you would be surprised as shit if you met a talking tree. You would definitely discuss it with another human as a surprising occurence.", "so they are constructed robots modeled after singing meat discussing the absurdity of singing meat", "I believe aliens have visited us in the past.\n\nI also believe they got very disgusted and offended and left, marking our sector the same way we mark a stinky smelly swamp.", "It feels so cozy!", "This is one of those jokes, the original and this sketch, that pops into my head just about once a month. Few things I can think of have carried for so long.", "Its not far off what's probably going on out there. I can't imagine the top tier explorers/beings in the universe are biological. If they are, it's some form of synthetic and highly engineered 'meat' (and then I bet that's just a stepping stone to non-corporeal or Machine Life). Meat isn't great in space-time. We can barely survive in most of our own biomes without radical intervention and resource waste. \n\nWe're barely beyond Monkeys, and maybe we actually aren't in the grand scheme. We still need the lies of mythology to stabilise our cultures; not just religion but justice, mercy and duty. All nonsense we need for civilised survival. And its not even that civil. So we aren't worth much beyond curiosity... yet.", "My god, this is brilliant.", "I smoke grass with Tom Noonan once long long ago. It was definitely not made of meat.", "This clip doesn’t do justice to the original text version. It completely omits the very poignant ending.", "The book was better.", "Ah yes, the Desert Bus classic.", "I absolutely adore that sax line!", "Its Cain", "I agree with this point but I also can imagine that if for example another species' lifespan has been aeons and their history forgotten, they could eventually be without any evidence of their own carbon based history. Also if their oart of universe has longer molecular chains, and they were not carbon based - their view on life could vastly differ from us", "> Them being disguised as humans just feels like a way they could keep the budget low, but it doesn't make sense from a story perspective.\n\nIf your assumption is that they're not just synthetic, robots, holograms or projections, etc.", "Who created those robots though?", "Who created the meat people.", "I’ve already seen this video, but i can’t remember when, and why…", "Apes, via evolution.", "\n\nBecause we don’t appreciate we are “meat”. We eat meat, we bury dead meat, we try to keep meat alive. We don’t “feel” like animated, thinking meat, operating at the speed of meat communicating with chemicals. \n\nThe point is to make us realise our own nature. We feel ephemeral, special, a soul perceiving the world around us, but we are really just “meat”. \n\nAnd we should be as amazed by that fact as the aliens in this story are.", "I always imagined this story with 2 beings made out of light or energy floating in space above earth (perhaps on a vessel) and having this conversation.", "Are you classified as human? \n\nNegative. I am a meat popsicle.", "You got it.", "We can deduce certain things about our universe. Sentient life taking this form is not a stretch.", "Who made the apes?", "Evolution and dumb monkeys", "how could simple meat creatures like us ever understand the business of non-meat beings like them? it would be like trying to think in the 4th dimension, impossible", "The new season of Cash Cab seems to be an entirely new format. I’m not sure I’m on board with this?", "They're also speaking rather than communicating through radio or whatever like they seem to think is normal.", "<shrug> Probably? Again, our n=1 is of limited utility in drawing conclusions like that with any degree of confidence. The fact that it happened here along with a number of other fairly smart critters is pretty compelling, though.", "I'm not saying all possibilities of life cannot exist. I'm just saying a sentient species like theirs even having this conversation is quite the stretch for me because carbon is one of the most abundant elements in our observable universe.", "And metal is robot meat. It's also not a stretch of the imagination to envision machine-based sentience, but if you learned of a planet wherein machines were born from some sort of alien primordial soup and evolved over the course of a couple hundred thousand years it would be pretty spectacular.", "Also a child molester in monster squad!", "Also the actor that played him!", "That always tripped me out. Good to see him doing some work.", "> because carbon is one of the most abundant elements in our observable universe\n\nAlthough what's especially amusing is that it's comparatively rare here on Earth. There's like a thousand times as much silicon in the crust.", "I mean, it's not really that rare. Also, it's easier for bonds to form in carbon than it is in silicon.", "Seeing this years ago inspired me to start a playlist of What Did I Just Watch.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL\\_EQS2uAbMkTIwcFY-xsNIFqtylCwkt2c", "Exactly. So speculation about biochemistry running on something other than carbon is probably a nonstarter, because despite it being, not rare, but certainly much less available than its cousin silicon, it was still carbon life that came to exist." ]	91	videos	"They're made out of meat."
https://youtu.be/BPrNRd5KmRw	/r/videos/comments/qzudop/big_bear_fight_in_finland/	[ "Fucking br00tal", "why can't they just cuddle", "Damn, all of this over a single pic-a-nic basket", "i doubt there are any bear experts here but am i right in assuming theyre kind of \"sparring\"? i feel that if they were going for the kill this would be way more brutal. those swipes would be making gashes, those face bites would be doing damage as well.", "Big Bear is in California, though?", "And the lady bear is leaving mid-fight in the background.\n\nShe just wanted to have a nice dinner, this is taking much too long.", "Love that bear just casually passing by in the background.", "Videos that end too soon...", "Goes great with this.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/xlYCxbBZUCY", "I believe it's somewhere in between. They're probably fighting over dominance and likely mating with the bear that noped out in the background. 🤣\n\nThey don't actually want to risk getting seriously hurt, but want to send a message to their opponent. \n\nThey aren't going to be sharing a drink at the watering hole, like you would do after sparring with your buddy. \n\nIt's more like when the guy you don't know starts hitting on your girl, and you want him to know you mean business and he should leave! You don't really want to cause severe damage, but you're willing to if he doesn't take the hint!", "bear in the background at the end is probably the cause of this all.", "was like \"okay byeeeee\"", "Plot twist: they're fighting over which one gets to eat the cameraman", "WORRRLDSTARR!", "Imagine not being a bear and fighting a bear.", "wORLDSTAAAR", "camerawoman ruined their porridge", "dude full on bear bite ripping/tearing with that much force? I don't know if bears have a ton of fat or protective skin around them but that looks pretty gnarly. I don't know if it means the one bear dies but looks like it's going to have some rough months ahead of it.", "I could do it. Just give me a tank.", "This is fake. The guy set up this fight by putting something in the tree for the bears to fight over, then had the camera ready to go. You can see the bear sniffing something in the tree in the larger video.", "So what's fake about it", "They put some food in the tree to attract the bear and stage a fight. That's what's fake about it. They had all the cameras set up ready to go, positioned over this very tree so that they can get a viral video and pics.", "Forced, not fake. Pretty shitty thing to do but those bears were indeed fighting", "What's it like being so edgy?", "Bear baiting is very illegal in Finland so no.", "I don't think you'd really be fighting it as much as just flapping around like a flimsy paper bag.", "Damn. I was hoping that running around a tree or a car would be a good bear defense tactic", "it is also a huge no-no among wildlife photographers", "RO..(click click click)..AR!!!, GRUN..(click click click)..T.\n\nAnnoying sound for sure.", "Meanwhile in Dagestan...\n\nhttps://youtu.be/mjfOeLQG9-M", "There is a lack of perkele in this bear fighting video", "But did you see the dancing bear?", "They need to make a movie about Khabib", "how many bears do you think you could take in a straight fight?", "“From 2001 to 2020, Finland lost 3.86Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 18% decrease in tree cover since 2000. From 2013 to 2020, 100% of tree cover loss in Finland occurred within natural forest.”\n\nSource: https://www.globalforestwatch.org/dashboards/country/FIN" ]	35	videos	Big bear fight in Finland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOXIpsoEo2w	/r/videos/comments/qzujod/mikes_videos_of_beavers/	[ "Industrious, destructive little fucks. \n\nCute as hell though...", "(sfw)", "Did somebody say... wood?", "\"What's over there?\"\n\n\n^\"a ^beaver\"\n\n\"A BEAVER?!\"\n\nbeaver runs", "I love a good beaver video. I love when I can see the beaver right up close, wet and hairy." ]	6	videos	Mike’s Videos of Beavers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaazFYTrQ_A	/r/videos/comments/qzvewn/you_too_can_easily_learn_the_standards_for_self/	[ "No.", "Cry more", "Gonna pull your back out stretching like that", "“Democrats piss me off” — easily one of the greatest sound bites from decades of South Park.", "When you try to use your skateboard to get a free gun...", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck7_JwQITYU" ]	6	videos	You too can easily learn the standards for 'Self Defense' in America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ui8lkzTcZs	/r/videos/comments/qzvmpf/was_dune_1984_really_that_bad/	[ "For 1984 it was epic", "David Lynch’s Dune was a masterpiece and I will die on that hill.", "It was an awesome movie. I'd watch the new one or the old both are great. Book is great too. Dune is just amazing.", "I loved it. Watched it a few years ago. The lore carries it past the 80's special effects.", "The sleeper has awakened.", "I highly doubt that this new dune will come anywhere close to creating as accurate a portrayal of the navigators as David Lynch did.", "The navigators don't actually appear onstage in the book Dune and it seems like the new movie is sticking closer to the book.", "The House Harkonnen scenes are like a bad joke. Atreides one seem fine for the time.", "No. Dune was and still is awesome. There are only a few DVDs that I own, because they truly feel like they are worth having to watch again and again, or because they are such distinctive and artistic film works, and Dune is one of them. Along with Blade Runner, Blue Velvet, The Shining, and a few other very specific, selected movies.", "It was a very impressive feat, especially for 1984. But I think it missed a lot of what really makes it special from the novel.", "While the new one is definitely prettier, I couldn't help but think as I was watching it, what does it add that is not in the last one...", "how come no one ever talks about the three-part miniseries from 2000? It was really good. [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142032/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142032/)\n\nEDIT: Free to stream on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXEkoO35MyI", "still is in 2021 too", "Would have actually loved a chance to see the full 5 hour cut, always loved this film.", "Agreed.", "There's a remastered director's cut HD edition with 5.1 sound. Man such an upgrade and joy to watch.", "It wasnt bad, but the edit was mangled.", "[David Lynch talking about his Dune](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lZKcW9OGoU)", "I hope you watched 3h version. It's much better paced and explained.", "werent his navigators the opposite though? thought they were supposed to have long arms, faces and legs and blue eyes. lynch's have huge heads but short arms and a fat long torso", "No", "Money to studios pocket's. Same thing Aladin remake did or any other. Originals have character, history and sometimes cult following. What is troubling these studios is that money someone earned back then is not theirs.\n\nWhen original Dune came out, there was nothing like it. It was THE science fiction movie of the childhood for me. A scary place with different factions and big worms. It was a daunting task to convert book into a movie and it was a gamble release in theaters. All for the sake of artistic expression of at that time fairly new director. Lynch at that point mostly did short movies and had unconventional vision. Sure it's a flawed representation of a fairly complex book, but it's an admirable effort and someone's earnest try at making a good movie out of a complex book. And it shows!\n\nThis thing today? Naah, no artistic integrity to be seen. Just ride old glory, throw a lot of money at CGI teams and rake in the money. Am not saying it's bad looking or a bad movie but Hollywood has become exceptionally good at playing safe. Creativity and new ideas disappeared long time ago. These days it's all about playing it safe, turn some childhood hero gay or bisexual, raking in the money... rinse and repeat.\n\nIt's a shame really. I'd love to see movies like these made regularly. I miss this science fiction with excellent world building so much. That's why I loved dune, that's why I love Riddick series and many similar movies. They are not afraid to use imagination and create new worlds.", "Who the fuck are the Frenem?", "Every generation deserves their own version of a story. If you have nostalgia for the version of your youth, great. But don’t ignore it’s flaws when you criticize modern versions. The fanboying over Star Wars, Dune, or any art is predictable and so lazy.", "I've always loved it... js", "There's a very nice fan edit that edits in lots of the special television version of the film, as well as deleted content not found in either the theatrical or television versions without cramming it all in willy-nilly. The editor (Spicediver) also spent quite a bit of time removing some of the more unnecessary voiceovers. \n\nYou can read about all of the changes he made here: https://ifdb.fanedit.org/dune-the-alternative-edition-redux/\n\nAnd you can watch a 4k upscaled version of it on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faHQA_0d9Mo", "I watched it Friday night and I enjoyed it again whereas my girlfriend seeing it for the first time...she would say it's really bad hahah", "I liked the Villeneuve version, but for as long as that movie is, you actually learn less about most of the main players, especially supporting characters like Thufir Hawat, Dr. Yeuh and Duncan Idaho. And Feyd-Rautha is missing altogether.", "Personally I think the 84 version was great and I'm not sure who is saying it's bad- but I think you're being pretty harsh on the new version. I'm a huge fan of the books and they have already stayed way closer to them then lynch did.", "The sand walk is mentioned in Lynch's version. It's in the scene with Paul and his mother after their escape.", "I think what this one adds is a truer to the book adaptation. I also like the lynch version.", "Feyd will be in the next movie. They play around with the pacing a bit in the movie and feyd doesn't really do anything in the first half of the book.", "The sonic guns were pretty meh. Stillsuits were the best iteration though. Ornithopters are far better in the latest.", "for one thing, and this is a major point, the backstory of the Bene Gesserit and their thousands' year plan for the Kwisatz Haderach, as well as the distinction that Paul's arrival was not so much fulfilling a prophecy, rather was following generations of seedings of fake prophecy designed by the Bene Gesserit. Furthermore, none of the nonsense about voice-based weapons and Paul becoming a superbeing simply by ingesting a bunch of spice and water of the worm. In short, the first movie had an almost complete lack of nuance (don't get me started on the Harkonnens)", "Yeah I was not a fan of the sonic guns in the lynch version considering they're not in the book. The lasguns in the new one were great, ornithopters were better although lynch can't be completely faulted for that, I like both stillsuits but the face covering wasn't quite what I had imagined.", "I believe it was some kinda directors cut box set. Friend lent it to me and had know clue what it was.", "It got a LOT of talk in its day and for years after and was largely received as an improvement over Lynch's as it was in some ways closer to the books.\n\nAs soon as the newest movie got announced though, everyone forgot it. And rightly so. It was OK, but very much a product of \"Scyfy original\" productions.", "The navigator wasn't in the book. And even in the books they WERE in they looked nothing like that. \n\n> The Guild Navigator Edric, introduced in the first chapter of Dune Messiah (1969), is called a \"humanoid fish,\" and described in his tank of spice gas as \"an elongated figure, vaguely humanoid with finned feet and hugely fanned membranous hands\"\n\nThey looked more or less like mermen or something.", "Both have their bright spots, I think. Lynch's work is an absolute acid trip that rarely resembles the novels, but as its own work it's imaginative and well-designed. And Patrick Stewart was in it! He's as much like Gurney as I am like a sandworm but hey, he makes it better for being there.\n\nFor some reason the Lynch version of Duncan always seems more accurate to me, though.", "Which would coincide the metaphor of water symbolizing wealth.", "Yeah, it's pretty terrible. Like I enjoy it but holy crap does it feel like maybe 1/3rd of the movie they shot, stitched together by awkward transitions.", "Thank you for linking this.\n\nIt's the version of Lynch's Dune I'd recommend to anyone who hasn't read the books first.", "The lasers were awesome. They really should have shown the laser/shield explosion to explain why they didn't use them more.", "if you like the book, its pretty bad. overall still a good movie though. \n\nit butchered, changed and ignored many important parts of the book. i felt that the nee movie is much closer to the book, which matters to me.", "I honestly enjoyed the character development and political intrigue in this version more than the new one.", "The Worm is the Spice! The Spice is the Worm!", "Calling a Lynch film \"lynchian\" is pretty unnecessary and doesn't really have any meaning. It's like saying an apple still tastes like apples.", "If the title of the post a question, the answer is no.", "Yeah IDK why people hate it. I thought it was really good, especially for the time.", "The new 2021 release left me underwhelmed. Yet this insane film from nearly 40 years ago still leaves an impression. SO bizarre, colourful and memorable.", "The 1984 movie absolutely does mention that Paul as the Kwisatz Hadrerach is the result of a breeding program (and Jessica's disobedience), not of the spice alone.", "I recently watched it and found it really quite good. The most annoying thing about it was all the voiceovers for internal dialog.", "imma make your thanksgiving better - it's free to watch on YOUTUBE: \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXEkoO35MyI" ]	53	videos	Was Dune (1984) really that bad?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GEjErW6dEXU	/r/videos/comments/qzvx38/art_restorer_cleansrestores_tiny_painting/	[ "Julian will forever be my spirit animal", "His videos are pure ASMR for me.", "What does a restoration like this cost? Anyone know?" ]	3	videos	Art restorer cleans/restores tiny painting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ	/r/videos/comments/qzwggi/the_neutral_response_video_will_no_longer_show/	[ "I on the other hand do have a strong feeling! Fk the people running youtube and their uncles!", "Shut your fucking face uncle ^fucker 🎶", "It never did show how liked/disliked it really** is. It was something implemented to keep the ratio from changing. I'm sure most people know this so I'm not just here to be like a jerk about it, but I see genuine comments where people think that it's actually real.", "yeah, there are videos like that in youtube, like this one:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkhgagvrjI" ]	4	videos	The Neutral Response video will no longer show how nuetrally liked/disliked it really is.
https://youtu.be/sRPrXA_FCSE	/r/videos/comments/qzwgz5/sydney_man_erects_monster_privacy_wall_during/	[ "I don’t see the problem (no pun intended). It’s his property. He can build whatever privacy wall he wants.", "r/UglyHouse", "As long as he’s done everything to code/law. Nothing wrong. I know in my area there is a law with how tall buildings and structures can be in your back yard.", "Good on you dude those neighbors seem like pricks", "That battered old basketball ring was really the cherry on top", "Most cities have codes you have to follow and permits you must get first. Fencing is something most all cities have with codes on em.", "Not really. Height restrictions mean he definitely can't.", "Anyone else think the brown dude interviewed at 2:15 sounds just like the Dutch guy from The Serpent?", "I didn't think this would be possible, but I have to assume you have never lived anywhere before, if that is your understanding of how property works.", "Fences in residential areas in Sydney have a maximum height of 1.8m. I assume that is why he says it is a \"feature wall\", but you still need a permit for that. And he isn't tricking anybody by calling it a \"feature wall\" and not a \"fence\".", "According to the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979, no he can't.", "If its true that he had trees that were that high before then what are the neighbours complaining about? They wouldn't have seen anything anyways.", "Should have built it bigger.", "Wait. Are you serious? Because looking at trees in from your back yard is nice and seeing a giant, unfinished black billboard with screws sticking out of it is a complete eyesore? There's a reason landscaping is a successful business in every town and no one's heard of a \"feature wall\" installer.", "Well he said the trees were dying, but just as likely he poisoned them to have excuse to cut them down.", "Gotta give it to him - that's a nice fuckin' wall/fence. And since he was going to make it nice on both sides, before his neighbors started to be assholes (according to him), then it doesn't seem that unreasonable. Although, it maybe didn't have to be that tall.", "I would empathize with the neighbors if any of them took care of their own property at all.", "it's probably to allow his wife and children flexibility to walk around without a headscarf on in their home.\n\nEdit. Some dont like the honest and harmless truth. Let the dude live in freedom from watching eyes.", "Maybe they rent. I've rented my current house for 8 years and the landlord has done literally nothing to it.", "It's possible, but it's not just the shoddy fence, it's the overgrown weeds and it looks like they're just using it as storage for junk.", "You missed the part where he said he was going to finish it and beautify it, but his neighbors were dickheads about it.", "google \"spite fences\". this isn't a new thing and it's against code in most places", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spite_fence", "His voice reminded a bit of this [prank call voice.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bspGIWOWl-k)", "I mean I rent but I still mow the joint once a month.", "Then get an HOA.", "What? Fuck HOAs, I obviously don't know the exact numbers here but nearly every city has laws about how tall your fences can be. For this exact reason. Which is why you never see 20' walls around people's houses, and why people use landscaping to create privacy." ]	28	videos	Sydney man erects monster privacy wall during lockdown.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzwmii/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzwmii/deleted_by_user/	[ "Really bugs me that he asked how heavy and everyone answered in units of volume, not weight", "Welp there's a minute I'll never get back. I'm putting the phone down.", "And ounce is also a unit of weight. Imperial units fucking blow. \n\nI'm also annoyed at the science behind it but his lesson is good. Something that weighs a pound and is held for hours still weighs a pound. It doesn't get heavier, it just feels that way because you've been straining your muscles. He makes a good point in the video but damn I can't turn off my engineers brain", "This has to be satire", "you can tell by the music it's a bullshit 'life lesson'." ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIQW2GqmcY	/r/videos/comments/qzxj01/korra_vs_storm_avatar_vs_marvel_death_battle/	[ "Man, from their presentation Storm seems like a stupid character. She can do everything and is best at everything... And she's also loyal and kind and all the other best human attributes lol. It does make sense that she is so powerful since there are decades of comic book power creep to draw from.\n\nCompare this to how they did the presentation of Korra. I really liked LOK, so I'm biased, but their synopsis at times gave me goose bumps. Arrogant but fighting for what she thinks is right. Suffering terrible defeats, both physical and mental. A really good character arc.\n\nI don't care whose brains got punched out of their skull. I know who won in my heart.", "Honestly I always have a problem with this sort of stuff, any individual can always be caught off guard no matter how strong they may be and in cases like this we are talking about two completely different universes. Its like someone saying Obama can kick Pikachu's ass if he had a faraday suit and a bat..", "When it comes to an Avatar versus a goddess, it's safe to bet on the goddess. 😊" ]	3	videos	Korra VS Storm (Avatar VS Marvel) \| DEATH BATTLE!
https://youtu.be/2JaqdHw_3XQ	/r/videos/comments/qzxpws/nuka_zeus_the_guy_who_injects_melanotan_ii_to_get/	[ "If you’re unaware who he is [this interview](https://youtu.be/6SEhwpGQqUI) is pretty good", "surprising absolutely nobody", "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.", "Reverse Uncle Ruckus?", "Why does liberal society today find it acceptable to be trans-gender, but not trans-racial?", "Mental illness", "Because your race is in fact something you're born with.", "how do I unclick a link?", "I thought race didn't exist?", "Praying for Nuka", "Lmao", "Seriously, dude shoulda got mental health care instead of injections. Lol", "I hope this guy wasn't inspired by the negroplasty south park episode.", "I’m Sure gender is too", "How much are the tickets?", "The guy is a moron but imagine living in a developed country and needing to beg your YouTube following for money for healthcare.", ">An opinion is not necessarily correct just because you're willing to die for it.\n\n-Oscar Wilde", "Why for being trans-racial? Thats fucked up my dude", "So a strong desire to...transition (If you will) to something you are not is a sign of mental illness?", "The dude is REALLY committed to not admitting that he just got the drug because he couldn't get it up", "Yes. Body dysmorphia.", "LOL", "I'd imagine this to be truth.", "kneegrowplasty", "He looks more Australian than black.", "This is cultural, he just associates black skin with the culture he’s appropriating. What you’re getting at is arguably biological, chemical. Think about people born with a vagina and a penis. Gender is a spectrum, arguably. What the fuck do I know?", "Nuka an idiot Zeus? Ya missed the ship and still planking the dock..", "\"ive got a liver disease, but it's not your business\"\n\nsays the guy talking into a fucking camera to tell everybody what's going on. jesus christ... see a therapist.", "genuinely curious, wouldn't gender be considered cultural too?", "> \"...arguably. What the fuck do I know?\"\n\nlol very good careful fence sitting. well played.", "Not really, I’m not in anyone else’s head but my own. Just my “theory”. If anyone argued me, I’d say “what the fuck do you know?”", "Not sure. I don’t have any theory beyond what I wrote and don’t care enough to explore it to be honest.", "You'll never know till u pay", "There are only 2 colors(blue and pink) at gender reveal parties.", "You about to cross some fucken lines!", "I told you so.", "U keep doin you son.. Aint nobody should give your dirty ass money for being a sub par mothafucka…", "Idk, what color is a tree burning?", "Do people still do those? And you’re being sarcastic, right? gender is developed at a reveal party? lol", "He doesn't even have a good tan.", "I had to stop watching after he said “hit my cash app”..", "Plenty of jobs out there right now man to pay your own medical bills for fucking up your body on your own time.", "No\n\nJust give him a presidency", "Jroc \n\nNawmsayin", "Booyakasha", "Liver disease is hard to reverse. Once you start to have scar tissue in the liver it doesn't come back. \n\nYou can make changes in your life that can help prevent further damage but if the liver continues to get damaged you eventually will go into liver failure. \n\nLiver failure doesn't really have a specific treatment. More or less you treat the symptoms of and hope that whatever liver function you have left is sufficent enough to keep you alive. There isn't anything like dialysis for the liver...once you lose that metabolic capacity it is kind of gone.\n\nThe only real treatment and cure for liver failure is a transplant. Fortunately liver transplants are easier to do than other transplants as you really only need a partial transplant and the little piece will grow as needed. But generally transplants are still high risk and those who continue to engage with liver-damaging-lifestyles may not get a transport or have heavy review by ethics.", "He specifically asked you not to. . . . .", "Honestly not trying to bait and I get this guy might be baiting but can someone explain to me why this isn’t a reasonable point? If the guy identifies as someone from a different race isn’t it ignorant to label him as mentally ill in the same way it’d be ignorant to do so for a trans person.", "Nuka has some pretty nuanced political views (good video btw)", "The real life b rad.", "I'll try to explain how I see it the best I can. Sex is something biological that exists in your genes. Race is not something your body is/knows. People of different races have different characteristics, but those characteristics are not something encoded as a sweeping \"race\" in your body. Race is a construct. Sex is not.", "Everyone in the comments supporting him as well, oops", "Then gender and race are both human constructs. You can pick your gender but you can’t pick your sex because sex is identified by genitalia, gender is not.", "What if he is appropriating it if he was raised mostly by and around black people.", "Well, now he is going to have yellow skin.", "That's exactly right. That's why people get surgery to reassign their sex in order to match their gender.", "So then if you can changer your gender you can change your race?", "https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/951/aussieshitpiost.jpg", "I take it this is supposed to be a jab at trans people, which just shows how out of touch you actually are. Body dysmorphia is a thing. The best way to treat it is the real question.", "Australia... has black people. In fact it used to be only black people.", "I totally get what you're saying. I just feel like my body knows it is a man. It does not know I'm white. My body simply is. Race is external, it has nothing to do with my body. Gender is in my mind, and therefore is relevant to my body.", "Gonna guess viral hepatitis", "Your body doesn’t know it produces more or less melatonin anymore then it knows it produces more testosterone or estrogen.", "Gendered fashion norms are not in your genes, either, yet are a common step for those who identify as another gender.", "The hormones have an effect on how I act. The melanin does not.", "Right, gender is in the mind. Race isn't. I'm only explaining my own \"view\" of how my mind organizes these topics.", "Right and the way you act is normal. It is society they attaches a gender to it. For example if you get in fights often, they might call you manly. That’s a construct. Your body is just doing what it’s doing, the label is from society just like the label that comes with your skin color.\n\nBoth are constructs.", "Mental injections", "Fuckin look at you Mr Big Brain. Got any more common knowledge you'd like to share?", "Another win for the environment.", "Whoa, come on now--let's not mix up mental illness and stupidity.", "Wipe front to back.", "I was going to send him money, but the \"fuck whites\" kinda ruined my generous mood.", "At least those people do not constantly refer to themselves as \"the greatest country on the planet\", especially if no one else calls them that. \n\nThat would be awkward.", "Trans-racial, mental illness.\n\nTrans-gender, SO BRAVE.\n\nTo be clear, I don't care what other people do with their own bodies, and no one deserves to be assaulted, bullied, abused, or killed for who they want to be.\n\nI just think it's pretty hypocritical to treat these groups of people differently when the underlying issue is the same.\n\nThey feel they were not born as the person they identify as.", "what an absolute fucking retard.", "I think of you have seen any of his content or interviews, you'd clearly see he has some real mental issues.", "Who is this clown?", "One must _ride-or-die-to-the-deff_.", "You cant \"identify\" as a different race...or gender...people are stupid af for thinking you can...(and i know, this isnt a compassionate response, so here come the downvotes!)", "melanin. Melatonin is a chemical produced that helps you fall asleep", "So is gender…", "This is the internet dude, everyone gets shit on", "What do you mean 'you people'?", "I lift up my ball sack and wipe back to front thru my legs fuck the police", "Exactly , but we can’t say that anymore. The tolerant police will .. uhm…. Be intolerant", "Someone took [This Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egxzdZ_dUP0) super seriously.", "Whatever makes you look good on social media is what people pretend to care about. I call it the virtue signal fad. \n\nI'm personally a transracial transnational jew who's family fled here to escape the Holocaust. Instead of being called a privileged racist scum just for existing. Gotta be one step ahead of the idiots in this game of modern society. Everyone needs a sob story or your life is meaningless.", "it's not the same though\n\n&#x200B;\n\ngender and race are not equivalent. obviously.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nedit: \n\n\nweird responses to this. everyone saying they're both social constructs so i'm an idiot from saying they're not the same. not sure how they're mutually exclusive. \n\n\ntwo things in the same group can also be different.", "It's because we have an internal psychological sense of gender, but not ~~race~~ ethnicity. \n\nI would feel like a man independently of whether someone told me I was or not. People don't know their race inherently, they learn about which race they are, and that's the difference.", "I don’t think it’s an issue of not accepting it. In this case it’s injecting harmful shit that causes negative effects and then begging for money to fix. Those action don’t usually get you much respect for your cause.", ">Melanotan-II is given as a shot to produce erections in men with ED (erectile dysfunction), tan the skin, and prevent skin cancers caused by sun", "Race is as much a social construct as gender.", "Being half facetious here, but aren't both supposed to be social constructs?", "Ethnicity there’s only one race.", "I woke up today and decided I am supposed to be Chinese as fuck, anyone wanna do my height correction surgery, im 6'4, that shit ain't right.", "You're right, fixed it.", "Scum", "Full disclosure, I personally do not like the use of \"race\" and generally use \"ethnicity\", \"culture\", or a variation of. Race is an inept taxonomic tool, a failed paradigm of a more ignorant time. However, in this American-centric context it is appropriate.\n\n\nTo me they can be equivalent. Both are social constructs. People of different genders/races have different lived experiences, shared identity, subcultures, complex histories, stereotypes, etc etc. Anyone can acknowledge/reject an individual's gender/race. Individuals can change their race/gender. Race/gender is a contentious topic. What is race/gender is nuanced and complex. \n\nThere is a lot of overlap.", "If it wasn't considers a mental illness trans people wouldn't get insurance money to pay for their transitions. There are many trans people who support them being in the DSM 5", "\\>It's because we have an internal psychological sense of gender, but not race ethnicity.\n\nIn the exact same way that the brain of trans folks are telling them their genitals are wrong, why isn't it possible for someones brain to tell them their skin is wrong?", "From your username I'm assuming you're also a dude. Did someone have to tell you that or did you just feel like a boy? \n\nSomeone had to tell me I was white before I knew I was white.", "I’ve watched that episode millions of times and just now understood that joke. Jesus they are geniuses", "Ya man IDK what this guy is smoking its literally the same thing.", "\\>gender is in the mind\n\nThis is confusing, because I don't understand how a social contract can be in your mind. \n\nI understand your brain telling you that your sex is wrong. That you should of been born with different genitals. But how does your brain tell you that your gender is wrong, when gender is a social construct?\n\nGender is the stereotypes based on sex, so your brain is telling you, for example, that you like male stereotypes more, therefore you are a male?", "\\>Did someone have to tell you that or did you just feel like a boy?\n\nTell me.", "This. The dude has a lot of red flags in his actions and mannerisms. There's something going on upstairs, even before he went dark.", "I think this is exactly why people argue against public healthcare.. People making foolish choices and society having to back the bill for them.", "Not really the same.\n\nFar as I know, there is no hormonal biological trigger that controls race like there is one that controls sexual maturity and dimorphism. \n\nBasically, the processes that can lead one to \"feel\" like they developed wrong sexually are tangible. Estrogen/testosterone imbalances both prenatally and during puberty, etc. Each body has more or less the \"blueprint\" of the opposite sex, so there's much more logical foundation for someone to say \"yep, construction workers fucked up, was supposed to be the other one.\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThat doesn't really apply to race and this guy.", "And everything from how tall you are to hormonal balances to mental illness are a result of your DNA.\n\nThe specific mechanism for why something gets mixed up isn't that important.", ">The specific mechanism for why something gets mixed up isn't that important\n\nUhm it's very important if you want to treat anything. Biology goes wrong, you treat the biology. Psychology goes wrong, you treat the psychology.", "There’s more science behind transgender identities. Did you know that upwards of 2 out of every 100 people born in the US are intersex? Someone who claims a different ethnicity isn’t exactly the same thing.\n\nSource: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex", "Reddits bar of tolerance ends at transracial.", "I'm not discussing treatment.\n\nI'm discussing an acceptance of their identity.\n\nRecently, transgender people have gotten a lot more awareness around their cause and have gained widespread support from others. When someone comes out as transgender, they are lauded for their bravery.\n\nSomeone like NukaZeus makes videos and is constantly ridiculed and treated like a crazy person.\n\nI just don't see why people who claim to have so much love and acceptance for transgender people in their heart suddenly have such a deficiency in those areas for someone like this.", "Yes, we are discussing treatment. For transgender people, coming out and accepting themselves is the treatment. It's hard to do and does require bravery, but I agree people shouldn't make a huge deal about it.\n\nAs we have established that what is going on in transgender people is not equivalent to what is going on with NukaZeus, we know that him dying his skin and saying \"fuck whites\" is not treatment for his condition, rather an indulgence into his mental disorder.", "Interesting. Thanks for the info. Another reason to not become an alcoholic.", "Somebody had to tell me that. As what most would call a man, I do not feel a sense of gender at all, but others repeatedly tell me that’s just my privilege talking. I just feel human until somebody starts trying to establish themselves as superior to me for no other reason than they have a different set of genitals than I do.\n\nI heard a quote about race that I think fits really well with my personal interpretation of gender: “Race is not a problem until you make it one. Then it’s the biggest problem you’ll ever have.” The only thing I would change about that quote is that I would say it’s not a problem until your society makes it one.", "You're just proving my point.", "Interesting. You've had someone say they're superior to yourself because they had different genitals to you?", "How so?", "Your numbers are wildly off.\n\nAccording to the Intersex Society of North America, the rate is somewhere between [1 in 1500 or 2000.](https://isna.org/faq/frequency/)", "I work in the fringe arts, so female-dominant companies are rather standard in my scene. I have been at an unfortunate number of meetings that turn into a festival of misandry, complete with cartoonish statements like “all men I’ve met are horrible people” and “the world would obviously be better without men”, completely discounting the fact that they hired me because I’m their friend and I’m sitting right there. I’m sorry, those are just not things that are okay to say in a professional setting at all.", "From your own link “: If you ask experts at medical centers how often a child is born so noticeably atypical in terms of genitalia that a specialist in sex differentiation is called in, the number comes out to about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births. But a lot more people than that are born with subtler forms of sex anatomy variations, some of which won’t show up until later in life.” \n\nYou should read the shit before you post it. That means that only 1 and 1500 have noticeable genital abnormalities but far more are born intersex which is where my 2 in 100 comes from.", "I DONT KNOW WHY YOURE BEING DOWNVOTED. YOU ARE 100% CORRECT", "Source please.", "Source for what? I quoted the article you posted. It’s from your source. The source for my claim is in the original comment.", "Specifically your 2 in 100 figure.", "https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex", "That source is extremely vague and based on some dubious definitions of what constitutes being intersex. \n\nThe National Library of Medicine disputes this claim and places the actual rate considerably lower.\n\nhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/", "The study you posted was written by a family physician and psychologist. Saying “the national library of medicine disputes this claim” either is you intentionally trying to mislead people reading your comment or a lack of understanding on how studies and papers are published or produced. \n\nA human rights org for intersex folks has this to say about it and other studies attempting to limit the perceived number of intersex folks: \n\n\n“A distinct narrow approach is also seen in a 2002 paper by family physician and psychologist Dr Leonard Sax which states:\n\nAnne Fausto-Sterling’s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome [47,XXY], Turner syndrome [45,X], and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling’s estimate of 1.7%.\n\nThis statement actually contains two distinct definitions (separated by the word “or”) relating to phenotypes and chromosomes. It is an arbitrary and ideological analysis that requires individuals who have come to the attention of medicine due to their innate physical characteristics to be investigated as to the cause. Depending on that cause, they may or may not fall within Sax’s definitions", "I'll take an actual published article in a medical journal by an actual doctor over you copying and pasting from yet again another unposted source apparently from an organization with a vested interest in expanding the definition to fit their purposes every time.\n\nYou have a lovely day.", "From what I can see it seems like awareness of both gender and racial identity manifest in children around similar ages \n\nhttps://pediatricsnationwide.org/2019/10/10/how-and-when-do-children-become-aware-of-the-construct-of-race/\n\nIt makes sense though that gender identity would be most apparent for most children due to the differences seen in their own households between mothers and fathers or sisters and brothers. Biracial households might see faster awareness of racial identity since the child would confront the differences on a regular basis. Both relate to the internalization of social constructs surrounding identities though and I’m not entirely sure I understand what you mean by inherently knowing about one or the other as it seems like both are learned by observing the differences between themselves and others around them.\n\nhttps://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx", "You know how little that means right? There were also studies published that said that the MMR vaccine causes autism. The vast majority of medical studies are flawed, exaggerated or intentionally misleading. Your whole point is you’re accepting a study from a family physician. Not a endocrinologist. Not someone who’s field would necessitate an expertise outside of basic medicine. My point is that the incidence of intersexuality is possibly far more common than understood by the majority of people.", "Is this real life…", "I don't think a bad choice should be a death sentence", "I think what you said is on the right track, do you have any more info available on this?", "I would agree with you on one point. Surgery is very advanced and so is medicine enen with that I feel like transgender people put their health at risk with those procedures , that’s how I know they committed!", "Instead, woke internet celebrates him.", "no, they don't lol", "Speaking biologically and physiologically, to keep with the \"blueprint\" analogy male and female blueprints are pretty similar (humans are \\~15% sexually dimorphic). Every human fetus starts out as female, then starts down a sexual development pathway depending on which genes are active (males still have nipples and can produce milk, penises are basically elongated clitorises, both males and females can produce estrogen and testosterone, etc). But there are so many little things that can go slightly wrong that can result in some parts of the male blueprint getting read instead of the female blueprint, and vice versa.\n\n[A 2008 study compared 112 male-to-female transsexuals (MtFs), both androphilic and gynephilic, and who were mostly already undergoing hormone treatment, with 258 cisgender male controls. Male-to-female transsexuals were more likely than cisgender males to have a longer version of a receptor gene (longer repetitions of the gene) for the sex hormone androgen, which reduced its effectiveness at binding testosterone.\\[5\\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality)\n\nWith the blueprints so similar, if some wires get crossed during development it can \"feel\" like a person is in the wrong body.\n\nAs far as I know there is no such biological mechanism for race. A black fetus doesn't start white and turn black. A man with white genes doesn't have the blueprint for the black genotype/phenotype.", "What do you mean by, \"someone had to tell me I was white before I realized I was white\"? Did you try using language that isn't appropriate for white people? I'm unsure how your actual ethnicity matters?", "Because, in some cases biology is just wrong, so you can fix it. In other cases psychology is wrong, so you fix it. You're saying that the feelings this man gets is wrong and needs to be addressed. The same thing applied to people in the trans community up until, well, now. So, if you all want to go around and dictate everyone about this, you should probably figure it all out. The holes are starting to show now that you are trying to exclude people from your clubs.", ">The same thing applied to people in the trans community up until, well, now.\n\nI already explained that there is a logical biological foundation for being transsexual and no such foundation for transracial. Any person can get the male and female wires crossed during development because we all have male and female wires. You can't get white and black wires crossed if you have no black wires. Care to explain what \"holes\" are starting to show?", "That statement makes no sense. That's like saying your body doesn't know it's breathing or pumping blood. Of course it does otherwise you'd be dead. Are you taking about your mind/coinsiousness? Because I guess that's a different story...", "How do you know no such foundation exists? You may one day be proven wrong and then on the wrong side. I understand the logic and agree somewhat. You're entire arguement assumes there is no connection in [wires and ethnicity]. I'm just saying people feel one way or the other and the only reason you're pushing one over the other is science and at one point everyone was wrong in science. I'm tired of people getting high and mighty over scientific evidence while ignoring the history humanity has in regards to holding current science in such high regard.", "So we can't use science to explain something because science is sometimes updated? That's the logical fallacy known as \"bandwagoning\". Watch more of this guy's videos going back a few years. It's reasonable to say his issue is psychological. Are some people transgender due to psychological reasons rather than biological? Absolutely, trauma can cause gender dysmorphia and in those cases their treatment should involve exploring psychology as well.", "No, you absolutely can. It's a double edged sword though and usually has a shelf life. Just saying. Like the other guy, I'm not against anyone being who they want to be. I find it funny how people are trying to scientifically prove their feelings.", "> I'm not against anyone being who they want to be.\n\nCall me cynical but somehow I think you and the other guy aren't commenting out of compassion for Nuka Zeus but rather with disdain for transgender individuals and the support they're receiving publicly. \n\nNuka Zeus is killing himself. Just like people with body dismorphia kill themselves via anorexia, injecting synthol, etc. That's why there being a logical difference for the case of transsexualism matters. Because the treatment matters. Enjoy your bad-faith arguments all you want but they're pretty hollow.", "You're wrong twice. I'm compassionate with neither and have disdain for no one. I will respect anyone's point of view or reality as long as it's not affecting my life. I will consider if my actions affect someone's life and adjust accordingly, using compassion. At some point you cannot save a person, so if dudes gonna inject himself I can't stop him. At the end of the day we simply view the world differently and frankly, I support that. The only thing that I don't particularly like are people who think they know everything and have this idea that their way is the best way. Even more so when they try to use academia to prove it, because in academia any argument has a place.", "Ok so you don't care to understand anything/anyone except yourself and you are annoyed by science and people who can attempt to explain something. Got it. All I need to know.", "It doesn't surprise me at all that you assumed an entire persona. Good luck with life haha.", "Lol that's literally what you said about yourself", "It's quite literally not what I said.", "Ok sure if you say so haha", "I mean, just actually read what I say instead of assume what I'm trying to say.", "Sorry to condense your shittyness in paraphrase", "I mean people can basically do whatever they want and I support their right to do so as long as it doesn't harm anyone; however, I would say that you are meatily ill if your perception of reality doesn't line up with reality. Or at least you are very confused. When you change the colour of your skin or change your genitals you are more or less putting on a permanent costume so that you line up with your perceived reality. I wouldn't say that you are actually changing what you are.\n\nAt the end of the day, people will still view you as your real self, even if they acknowledge the suffering that you are going through and call you by whatever name, race or sex that you perceive yourself as. That's just my observation.", "i did not say they both weren't socially constructed.", "yeah i'd say that was a fair thing to say", "both being social constructs does not make them the same thing", "I know, you said they are not equivalent. You never originally mentioned social constructs.\n\nI agree they are not the same, and they are different however in many contexts they are equivalent because of their many similarities. The majority of which are the result of them both being social constructs.\n\nWe could be all on the same page and it is an issue of semantics such as if you are using 'equivalent' to mean 'the same' and we are all interpreting equivalent to have a slightly different meaning.", "> Liver failure doesn't really have a specific treatment\n\nliver transplant", "my point was the person i replied to was making this analogous to transgender experiences. by virtue of them being equivalent.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nhe called them the same underlying issue. which in this context is completely stupid. \n\n\nfairly obvious to me the person was trying to say transgender people are mentally ill in the same way trans racial people are. and they both are.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nwhich is wrong. and stupid.", "Did you read my 4th paragraph", "did you?", "\n>Somebody had to tell me that. As what most would call a man, I do not feel a sense of gender at all, but others repeatedly tell me that’s just my privilege talking.\n\nThink that's entirely normal. I'm trans, and my sense of gender is \"I don't feel like shit having transitioned and changed my body\". Don't have some sort of pool of mystical womanly feelings deep down - I just felt awful with male characteristics and like a normal person with female ones.\n\nFeeling human/normal/nothing is how you feel like your gender. Same way that you don't have 'non-broken bones' feelings, you just feel normal.\n\nAnd yeah, in the technical sense, that is a privilege. Not having to feel like shit because you got the wrong bits is better than having to go through that. Now that I mostly experience that myself, it is a privilege not being miserable about how you feel like you were put together wrong.", "Choosing to pay more for your own healthcare because other people need healthcare doesn't make any sense. Universal healthcare is significantly cheaper than the US system of trying to exclude as many people as possible. It's also no contest ethically speaking.", "Plus there's an easy explanation for why that mechanism would develop.\n\nIf animals ate a lot of the wrong hormone they would likely become infertile.\n\nSo an instinct that tells them to stop doing that makes evolutionary sense.", "Well the gender is revealed at the ultrasound and the parents don't know until the reveal.", "So you've got no idea what your talking about then" ]	177	videos	Nuka Zeus, the guy who injects Melanotan II to get darker skin, is diagnosed with liver disease
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMtrjNPcjR0	/r/videos/comments/qzyees/redlettermedias_ghostbusters_afterlife_review/	[ "AT-STears", "I didn’t know how much I needed this til I watched it.", "I'm 8 minutes in and all they have done is shit on it so far.", "they get positive at the VERY end", "Cool, watch the rest of the video.", "Rich says he liked it", "It will be interesting to see a shelf in stores called \"baby version of toyetic icons\", stacked with groots, yodas, stay puft, etc.\n\nIs there a subreddit where you can bet on what trends will appear in future movies?", "“Nostalgia bukkake” - lol", "Definitely a negative review. They just liked it better than 2016 version.", "It is when you're expecting 100% negative", "> They just liked it better than 2016 version.\n\nthat's the surprising part", "Rich liked it!", "I’d say more like…just not a very high bar lol. But I get you.", "More like nostalgic “BOO!”-kakie, amirite?" ]	14	videos	Redlettermedia's Ghostbusters: Afterlife review. Surprisingly positive?
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qzyex5/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qzyex5/deleted_by_user/	[ "The kickstarter took millions and the author dissapeared assuming the person left the country to escape fraud claims and arrest", "LOL the dude responded 2 hours ago on the youtube channel", "Hope he looks into the “Love record player” been waiting on that one for a while!", "Coolest Cooler is a good example of how many Kickstarters fuck up. The product is entirely doable. Just not at their price. They would have been literally losing money with every backer.\n\nThen you have nonsense like the laser razer, and the underwater breathable device.\n\nThen you have theoretical but not at that price devices. Like wearables with screens on them that don't look like shit. You'd need a lot of R&D cash to develop it.", "I really wanna watch the video but please can we use Inside Voices.", "It wouldn't be fraud though - just say that you ran into development difficulties. Kickstarter a pretty clear that items might not ever appear.", "[The RECORD RUNNER](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZZ5x80h3B4)\n\n[Also this is kinda close](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZF9TdLsjt8)", "He responded within a few minutes after it was posted", "Still think Ivan Miranda did it better.\n\nAir umbrella helmet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNkKZ8oyiow\n\nTest in rain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5c0_hd4AIE", "Haha thank you. Yeah I’ve had solid runs with other campaigns. Most have actually gone on and become larger firms which is cool. This one though. Tbh I just follow it because the comments are ruthless. Maybe I’ll get a record player one day lol", "I gasped aloud when I saw him there lol. The internet is pretty cool sometimes", "Ivan for the better tech\n\nAlan for the better meta narrative", "I paid out a fortune in wages to myself and then it turned out I run out of money.”", "The YT collabs here are so deep and plentiful that I can't help but like it.", "r/titlegore", "I hope he enjoys his new leaf blower.", "Youtube Superbacker's first comment was two years ago. OG Superbacker goes back more than 4 years. It looks like either a shitty bot, or a string of poorly paid dudes in South Asia who use the same spreadsheet. Didn't he back another project, where he mentioned getting \"1000 subscribers without releasing one video.\" Sounds like basic spam.", "The 'man' in the title made be sad. It's 'pan'! \n \nAllen Pan to be precise, 1.5 million subs on YouTube, not really unknown.", "Classic Michael", "Ahh the star citizen model", "For what it's worth - I actually got one from the Kickstarter, at one point they said \"if you pay another $100, you will absolutely get one in a month, we have a production run going right now, if you don't - we can't make promises\". I said screw it, paid the $100 and sure enough, we got our Coolest Cooler - and ya know what? It's awesome. We got camping multiple times a summer on a private lake that's boat access only and no power. I have a few batteries for it (and I later bought the solar kit which swaps out the top off for one with a solar panel that you can use for USB charging or to charge the batteries that run the blender) and it's still great. We've had it for years now and get a ton of use out of it. The wheels roll over everything, we bungee all the kid's swim stuff on top of it and despite paying a stupid amount of money for it and watching so many others get burned, I've somehow managed to luck out and be happy with it. We also make extensive use of the blender, but mostly just for making smoothies for the kids, and oh, the plate set with forks and knife and stuff we use a lot too for cutting up fruit and such. \n\nThey had a going out of business sort of sale and I bought up a few more batteries and accessories just to keep it going for as long as possible, and it's a tank, so hopefully I can keep it going and get a bunch more summers out of it.\n\nToo bad the makers basically went broke and had to live out of their vans as a result. They got bought out by somebody, I thought it was going to be a Coleman or something, but was probably some private equity firm that just wanted the IP, but oh well. They learned a hard lesson in mass production of a product for sure.", "I have that leaf blower, can confirm that power. LOL", "the air umbrella spirit of vengeance", "Michel Scott being Michel Scott.", "I completely don't understand the broad use of the cooler though. It just seems easier and cheaper to get the parts individually. I really don't know how many people need a blender on the go, but when I looked at the parts myself I could easily come in under $150. I get that there are those who want to build a PC and those who want to buy a prebuilt, but for the amount they where asking its no wonder they went bankrupt.\n\n[Hell, just attached needed accessories to this cooler for cheaper](https://www.costco.com/titan-deep-freeze-60-rolling-collapsible-cooler.product.100706668.html)", "I'm Dr. Michael Galazkiewicz..." ]	24	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IC23P_24v8	/r/videos/comments/qzztzd/lil_uzi_vert_epically_freestyles_a_full_song_on/	[ "I think you and I have very different definitions of the word \"epically\"", "epically", "Ha this is straight garbage", "I had low expectations and I’m still overwhelmingly disappointed. \n\nHot garbage." ]	4	videos	Lil Uzi Vert epically freestyles a full song on Twitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZNFrQ8i7A	/r/videos/comments/qzzvhx/when_take_on_me_reminds_u_life_is_short_and/	[ "Do you not know what voice layering is?", "Would have been better without the voice layering.", "My life feels ~3m30s shorter and more precious every time Take On Me gets played on the radio.", "I agree but I don't know what I'd do in its place...", "I liked it. Pretty different take on that song.", "I will always Su Lee.", "Because for some reason you're forced to not switch the station", "Inexplicably, I'm even forced to focus on your reply for a full 3 minutes and 30 seconds. It's like some Old Testament meets Clear Channel wrath.", "Am I the only one who thinks take on me is a really creepy song?", "then I bet you'll like their own 'slow' version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xKM3mGt2pE&ab_channel=ahaVEVO", "You had to be there... When it wasn't so much about the song but about the video when it was playing on MTV.", "The video was great, I did only notice the lyrics when real big fish covered it.", "Why do you find it creepy?", "shying away, ill be coming for your love anyway.", "Yeah, I remember coming across this version and realizing with near certainty that it was the inspiration for the funeral dirge at the end of season 4 of the magicians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJI-XgAhbzs", "Ready to be bought and used in a new Hollywood movie trailer.\n\n\"Mister Bass....man.....I think you're...really somethin...I wanna be a...bass man...too.....\"", "ooh check out the after hours version, these guys won best quartet the year before doing this\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmAYpZsYT8U", "My two favourite Su Lee videos are:\n\n* [Su Lee - I'll Just Dance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOPCPUq9f_g)\n* [I’ll Just Dance - your dance montage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYY9dQ2L8jE)\n\nI subbed to her channel after coming across those. She went through a tough time during covid and am glad she is doing well in her new place.", "Nah, Every Breath You Take by Sting is the really creepy song", "that song is about a stalker though. \nThis one just fits a stalker narrative if you see it that way.", "Thinking Take on Me as stalkerish is a bit of a reach, really, its about letting go and taking the opportunity, the words are convincing the other to do so. I guess you could interpret as creepy, but you're more sensitive than most of us", "That's the subjective thing about music though, I can see it as being about someone who is trying to convince someone against their will. \nI am not knocking the song, i love it I can just interpret it as something other than the intention and that's great in my eyes.", "Learning disabilities are common you got this", "I like [Ellie's version](https://youtu.be/NKeU1twQYX4) from The Last of Us 2.", "It's an interesting cover and pleasant to listen to, but it doesn't remind me of that.", "Damn that was great", "barbershop is actually the best music", "No it reminds me of last of us 2", "TLOU2 already did that\n\nEdit: Yall are either acting like I'm wrong or still irrationally butthurt over that game", "It's a song about two people who don't know how tell each other they're in love..", "I mean, just post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xKM3mGt2pE", "if you hear it like that then ok that's not how I hear it its great when things are subjective and can be perceived differently with no bias. Music is great like that.", "Gosh that's lovely.", "It's not really subjective but alright lol", "I can hear you yelling and talking to yourself , just wanted to ask if you're ok?", "You do realize downvotes are a form of interaction right?", "Not my favorite", "I always thought it was interesting to imagine that she's probably never heard the original song. This version was probably picked up from sheet music, or Joel or something and she has no context of it ever being a big, loud, pop song.", "Man, the Magicians was so fucking good. A rare occurrence where, for me, the show was far better than the book.", "I couldn't go on after that episode." ]	40	videos	when “take on me” reminds u life is short and precious - Su Lee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-FHbHoiwNk	/r/videos/comments/r006wc/xray_timelapse_of_fluid_movement_in_plants/	[ "Neat. Was planning to skim it but then ended up watching the whole thing.", "Should check out other videos on this guys channel. One of the best people on YT for people interested in accessible technical deep dives. One day there will hopefully be more than a handful.", "I get a strong energy vampire vibe...\n\nSeriously though very interesting video.", "Super cool! This guy knows his shit!", "Yeah, got sucked into a few yesterday.", "He’s the guy made famous in tech circles for piecing together a electron microscope. Total legend. Ben Krasnow." ]	6	videos	X-ray timelapse of fluid movement in plants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cfWJop0LZ0	/r/videos/comments/r00jrj/paganinis_caprice_no_24_cited_by_many_as_the_most/	[ "Gotta practice 40 hours a day to be that good", "It’s crazy that some guy hundreds of years ago just thought of that and wrote it down on a piece of paper.", "? Not even close to be the hardest", "The amount of effort it takes just to learn to be able to draw a bow across an open string and pull out a resonant note is pretty tough. I can't even fathom being able to pull off these kind of acrobatics.", "This sounds terrible.", "Yep, goes to show that just because it’s complex, doesn’t mean it sounds great", "Imagine being this good at violin and not be able to afford a suit that's better than what you'd wear at a custody hearing.", "Yeah but can he play Devil Went Down to Georgia?", "Many people claimed that Paganini did indeed make a deal with the devil because he was such a virtuoso. Kind of a proto Robert Johnson.", "Yeah violin has got to be one of the most difficult instruments to master. This peace looks impossible lol", "Paganini today: \"What, you PLAYED that? I was trolling bro.\"", "It does look like a suit Charlie Kelly's uncle may wear to court, but I like to give the benefit of the doubt that high performance violining wasn't the posture they were going for when it was fitted", "> when it was fitted\n\nWas it?", "\"I just wrote that down in ten mins bro! Paganini gotta pay rent you know\"", "Imagine watching a video of an incredible man doing something amazing, and you still try to find a way to talk shit about him. How sad is your life for you to unpromptedly bring toxicity like that?", "what about 20 hours each day over the the course of 2 days?", "This is like mastering the 1800's version of DragonForce's Through The Fire And Flames", "I'm trying to find find an electric guitar version where they play all the harmonies on the guitar, like he does with violin. They all use backing tracks though and play single note melodies.", "Well the truth is...ever since I was a little boy I always wanted to master Paganinis Caprice 24, but unluckily for me I never actually tried holding a violin. Now all I have is an ill fitting suit like this man but no violin skills and my joke just gave me that one extra bit of joy to bring me through another day without dragging my stick across violin strings to create art and be recognized for my talents that I know I have if I only did the bare minimum of training many hours every day for years.", "It's a stylistic choice for many a musician when their skills finally afford them the luxury. It's the wearing flip flops to the office of career peaking.", "I can respect that.", "Not dedicated enough.", "For those of you with a keen ear, every once in a while it might sound like he's missing a note.\n\nHe's not, that's how it's written.", "Since difficulty has no objective measure, it is likely impossible to properly rank pieces by difficulty.\n\nIn my opinion, the 24th caprice is rather the most famous of the 24 caprice, probably due a recognizable melody being performed in different variations, which allows showcasing different violin techniques. Regarding the most difficult caprice, I usually hear people pointing to the 4th caprice.\n\nWhen it comes to the most difficult violin piece, quite often the discussion leads to pieces such as [Erlkönig](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWNCbpwC-PQ) (Schubert/Ernst) or [god save the king]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGmIlMS60c0) (Paganini). But then one can make even seemingly mundane pieces such as the [kleine Nachmusik absurdly difficult]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsxY3WL1cP8).\n\nInterestingly, when asking world class violinist [Maxim Vengerov about the most difficult pieces]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEK_ur1yqy4), he seems to rather discusses phrasing difficulties than difficulties stemming from technique.", "If I remember rightly, Hilary Hahn thinks bach's pieces are the hardest because of all the double stops. \n\nBut she probably meant \"of the famous pieces people actually want to listen to\", because as you pointed out there will always be obscure etudes or whatever that people write just to mess with music students.", "Good point, I forgot about her comment. But I feel her answer is similar to the one of Vengerov. Bach Sonata's are difficult, but not as technically demanding as Paganini or Wieniawski. However, Bach Sonata's are known to be quite difficult when it comes to phrasing (notwithstanding the fact that interpretations of Baroque music seems to be constantly changing with time). So her comment appears to reiterate the fact that at some level of violin playing, technique seems to be not the main concern anymore.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WuPlIx47gw", "This is Ling Ling!", "I wonder if Robot Devil could handle this", "I was thinking \"he's missing notes.\" lmao those arpeggios at the end were insane though.", "Caprice 24, in a minor. Idk who caprice is but someone should do something about that.", "😂", "During the 27th second there sounds like a mess up.\n\nAm I wrong?", "Nope, it's as written at that moment. Descending diminished arpeggio starting from F." ]	34	videos	Paganini's Caprice No. 24, cited by many as the most difficult violin piece ever written, played by the amazing James Ehnes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOawGcot93E	/r/videos/comments/r00m57/a_dog_picking_a_tomato_off_a_plant_and_then/	[ "Yeah. We went one whole summer wondering why we weren't getting any ripe tomatoes...", "You have to be careful with green tomatoes for dogs. Tomatoes loose the toxins as they ripen. The red ones should be fine in small quantities for dogs, but the green ones will upset their stomach.", "My dog used to do this with wild Blackberries - only the ripe ones, never get pricked. He was awesome!", "Damn it, Reddit, now I'm watching videos of pets eating random shit.", "If he's color blind why does he want the red one?!", "Dogs still see color. It is not a black and white world, so he may not see it the same as us but he can tell the difference.\n\nAlso dogs have a good sense of smell and can likely tell the difference that way as well.\n\nMy dog would do this to our tomato plants lol.", "lmao, labrador?", "Cute.", "Thats a deep rabbit hole to go from tomatoes to shit.", "Quite honestly one of the best titles I've ever seen on a post on reddit.", "> Also dogs jave a good sense of smell and can likely tell the difference that way as well.\n\neven we can do this by smell, imagine how easy it would be for a dog", "I don't know the specifics of dog color vision but even if they don't see any color at all, you can still tell the difference between a ripe and a unripe tomato because the ripe tomato is darker. [Here is what the tomatoes look in grayscale](https://i.imgur.com/MZmcOtH.png). \n\nIt is also possible that the dog can smell the difference between the ripe and unripe ones.", "Have a look at a dog's colour spectrum perception compared with ours, specifically the shades that correspond to green and red. \n\nhttps://www.petmd.com/sites/default/files/what-dogs-see-chart.jpg", "No, a shepherd mix :-)", "He should hang out with [this good boy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5L8bdYY9FY) and they can just eat their way through a garden together", "Is there underlying data to support this? Not to be a dick, but it reminds me of those \"here is where different tastebuds are on your tongue\" charts that are completely bogus empirically.", "http://w.neitzvision.com/research/publications/publications/1989-Neitz-Color\\_vision\\_in\\_dog-VisNeuro.pdf", "Thanks! Would love to see a statistically significant sample with other breeds besides greyhound and poodle, but this is interesting. \n\nAlso, why the fuck do redditors downvote asking for sources? The fuck?", "Honestly not as satisfying as [this dog eating a tomato off a plant](https://youtube.com/shorts/A5L8bdYY9FY?feature=share)", "So my dog sees grass as white basically? When it snows a bunch he just thinks the grass grew a ton over night?", "Free snackos", "Because reaching out for help without even trying basic steps to resolve your issue is inconsiderate of other's time. I understand if it's an obscure topic or something not readily available. Clearly that person just searched \"dog color vision research\". \n\nIt's same reason it gets old when colleagues or employees ask me \"how do I do x\" and it's clear they haven't tried any steps on their own. It's OK if people have taken basic steps on their own and gotten stuck. \n\nNow if the guy posted something obscure like \"there was this one breed I can't remember that has lasers for eyes\" and you googled \"dog laser eyes\", it would be appropriate to ask for a source.\n\nI found hundreds of papers in <10 seconds by googling, there are literally tens of thousands of papers and millions of website hits on the topic.", "\"There ars literally tens of thousands of papers and millions of website hits on the topic\"\n\nDid it cross your mind that I knew that and was asking for help from someone who was already versed in the literature? \n\nSometimes the best way to learn is to ask for advice or input from a subject matter expert. This is especially true in scientific fields where SOTA is almost certainly a complex discourse with many nuances.", ">subject matter expert\n\nSir, this is Reddit. Only idiots are allowed here.", ">statistically significant sample\n\nNot sure what that is meant to mean.", "The study linked had an n (sample size) of three dogs, two of which were the same highly inbred breed (greyhounds). \n\nThat is not really enough to make a statistically rigorous assessment of all dogs. Or, that is what I'd say in a review of this paper. \n\nIt is essentially a good start in looking into the issue. As someone (snarkily) noted above, this is a deep lit with lots of papers. So maybe someone has done a bigger study since 1986.", "I was such a fool.", "> Sometimes the best way to learn is to ask for advice or input from a subject matter expert.\n\nSir, this is a moderately popular r/videos post, you think that guy is a SME on dog color vision? This isn't a college lecture hall. And doing literally none of your own reading or research on a topic and immediately asking for help is NOT the best way to learn anything.", "I've a lab mix that ate all the good tomatoes this year.", "I love how a few people here think this isn't a deep field AND that it is so simple I should have intuited the underlying data through a quick dive into the literature. Like y'all literally contradict yourselves in real time.\n\nI stand corrected. You're the same shmuck as before. Shouldn't have generalized as it is just your own personal problem lol.", "I...What? Did you mean to respond to someone else? \n\n\nYou asked why you got downvoted for asking for a source and I told you why - Then you argued that the best way to learn is by asking random people on the internet questions that you can easily google the answer to in seconds and I disagreed.\n\nI didn't say anything about how \"deep\" of a field dog color vision is nor that you should \"intuit\" data by reading about the subject (which, by the way, makes no sense. It's called learning not intuiting if you are reading someone elses work).", "Ah I see. You're not interested in an actual discussion. If you can't represent what I said remotely correctly, we're done.", "I don't even know what discussion you're trying to have! I told you to Google your own shit instead of asking people to do it for you ...and you went down some whiny rabbit hole about how it's my personal problem and I'm a schmuck.", "You're on an anonymous forum, don't assume anyone is an expert on anything just because they take the time to talk about it or it has a lot of upvotes. Anyone can spew off garbage and not even have their name tied to it let alone be held accountable.\n\nIf you want help from an expert, then look up experts. [Actual sources](https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-017-1404-7) for research papers and peer reviewed studies and publications. You don't honestly expect to come across an expert on dog vision through r/videos, you're just lazy and want someone to do the work for you.", "If you were reviewing this paper you would certainly be capable of finding these sources yourself, and you would also know that and N of 3 can yield statistically significant results. \n\nThe paper I cited (1989, not 1986) has been cited 207 times, and it the typical citation for other studies referring to canine color vision. However, here is a study with N=17, which includes foxes.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n[https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gerald-Jacobs/publication/231897541\\_Photopigments\\_of\\_dogs\\_and\\_foxes\\_and\\_their\\_implications\\_for\\_canid\\_vision/links/00b4952ee848b72bba000000/Photopigments-of-dogs-and-foxes-and-their-implications-for-canid-vision.pdf](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gerald-Jacobs/publication/231897541_Photopigments_of_dogs_and_foxes_and_their_implications_for_canid_vision/links/00b4952ee848b72bba000000/Photopigments-of-dogs-and-foxes-and-their-implications-for-canid-vision.pdf)\n\nA good start would be doing a google scholar search yourself instead of being lazy.", "I'm not sure how you got to the conclusion that I assumed they were an expert. I'm just open to the possibility they might know more on the subject than I do. \n\nI have a PhD. Spare me the sanctimonious lecture.", ">I have a PhD.\n\nThen you should know better.", "\"I don't even know what discussion you're trying to have\"\n\nI know. I just said that.", "This is a common misconception. A PhD doesn't make you smart. It makes you aware that other's have done the work, and it is usually best to ask questions to get up to speed. \n\nI'm happy to discuss what a PhD does and doesn't mean, if you're interested. My actual point however was that I do academic level research for a living and that asking a question on reddit isn't incompatible with that. \n\nI mean step back and take your advice to it's conclusion. It's honestly a totally ridiculous suggestion.", "Again, asking a question doesn't mean I'm lazy. It means I'm curious. \n\nN=3 is never statistically significant, unfortunately. At least that is how I was trained in my graduate programs. Happy to read a counter argument. N=17 also falls short of the sample you'd want, which is usually 30+ (again, in my training in uni stats programs).", "Your graduate programs seem to have failed to cover basic statistical concepts. Have a look at this table and tell me what you see - https://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/gerstman/StatPrimer/t-table.pdf", "Sigh. I'll continue to be the adult an ignore the snark. \n\n- degrees of freedom and sample size are of course not the same thing, nor is a t test really always germane. https://www.statisticshowto.com/probability-and-statistics/hypothesis-testing/degrees-of-freedom/\n\n- if you want results that are statistically significant for a population, which is what I've been pointing out this whole time, the \"classic guidance is n>=30, but these days it's usually n>=100. This is because the central limit theorem suggests these sample sizes are where you can be pretty sure you're getting a normal distribution of data. https://www.statisticshowto.com/large-enough-sample-condition/\n\n- this is not to ignore small prelim samples and or qualitative work. Both of these are interesting to me, and I'd love to discuss them more if you can not be a jerk for no reason. I'm too old to bicker on reddit.", "It is about physiology of the eye, coupled with behaviour. If you don't understand the principle then maybe do some reading. \n\nSample sizes are chosen with respect to estimated effect size. If it is a matter of physiology, then the lack of variance allows for very small N sizes. \n\nAgain, I suggest you do some more reading before lecturing others.", "- Medical studies are in no way exempt from statistical best practices. 'This is physiology' doesn't mean you can get generalizable conclusions from 3 dogs (two of which are the same breed). Assuming a lack of variance without evidence is never a good idea. \n\n- If you'll recall, this entire convo was me asking questions in the hopes of learning more. Since you're contradicting yourself (telling me to not do more reading and do more reading), I'll consider this resolved.", "Ha, well you can start by re-reading what I wrote - I advocated that you read more , twice. \n\nYou are also conveniently ignoring the second paper I posted. Separate from that, the initial paper should have been sufficient for you to use to do further reading. \n\nWhy are you expecting everyone to do your work for you? I have provided a follow-up paper addressing your questions, and I have gotten nothing but nonsense back, including a complete misunderstanding of how statistics work. You are using your anecdotal understanding of sample sizes and proclaiming them to be standards, when in reality each discipline and area of research have wildly different standards for sample sizes. \n\nWhich is why I simply advocated for you to read more. As in- read more, and stop wasting my time asking me to educate you.", "Oh I'm sorry that you got the impression that I was ignoring you, I certainly wasn't. I skimmed both papers and I think the evidence definitely supports the color perception conclusions we all have heard anecdotally about dog vision. I certainly appreciate you sharing them, as this filtering of relevant literature was what I was hoping for with my original question. I did notice you kept insisting I read more, which honestly confused me a bit as that was self-evidently the reason I politely asked for info people might have to begin with. \n\nI'm sorry asking for this triggered you as much as it did. I certainly didn't expect or intend to get anyone riled up. Hopefully you can see I'm earnestly just looking for more info and not being lazy, since I did produce the links on stats. I've taught stats at the uni level, so was happy to share from a field I'm very familiar with.\n\nAgain, I'm hopeful you can take the olive branch and pull back from the \"reddit fight\" approach you keep taking rhetorically. I really am not interested in arguing over nothing. \n\nI will politely note that no scientific field uses n=3 as a sufficient sample size for generalizable conclusions. Other than that, I'm quite happy this all worked out and I was able to learn something new. I hope you can see it the same way." ]	46	videos	A dog picking a tomato off a plant and then eating it
https://youtu.be/5-vyZ9lB5Y4	/r/videos/comments/r0128x/bilbos_speech_insult_or_compliment/	[ "It always struck me as more of a self-deprecating joke as opposed to either a compliment or joke at their expense.\n\nHe's acknowledging that he's known for being a bit anti-social. At the same time, he's pointing the blame for his strange behavior only at himself by saying that the other hobbits deserve to be liked better. It's just his own short-comings that have prevented him from being more friendly with them.\n\nIt even explains his own awkward little shuffling around after he says it, like he is trying to make a joke at his own expense to endear himself to them, but he was too clever and it ended up going over their heads, so it's awkward.", "Can't wait for his 8 minute video on what he wife meant when she said she was \"fine\".", "This is exactly what I get from the 2nd half of what he says. \n\nHes saying they deserve to be liked more, but its a self reflection and apparant flaw or error on his part that he doesnt like them to their deserved level. It would have been a good point to end the video on rather than leaving it somewhat 'still a mystery' and not fully answered." ]	4	videos	Bilbo's Speech: Insult or Compliment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=737r0mRf0hY&QAw	/r/videos/comments/r016os/turning_coal_into_diamonds_using_peanut_butter/	[ "If you belive this you should look how to turn penutbutter in to a brain.", "Lmao imma use that one.", "They obviously had the wrong peanut butter. Russian peanut butter is so dense that it works with the mighty Russian peanut.", "Lol" ]	5	videos	Turning coal into diamonds using peanut butter
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r016px/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r016px/deleted_by_user/	[ "That joke is at least 20-30 years older than this.", "He is such a jerk. My introduction to Bill Cosby was a bit called Kindergarten. And I was 6. And after that was superman. This man was amazing I thought. And in the 1990s, there were leaks. And I wondered. And then it all spills out. I cannot listen to his comedy, knowing what he is capable of. \n\nI saw this thing open the NIU convocation center. And now wish I had never heard his name.", "Why are you giving this man airtime? Ffs.", "Found Bill Cosby's alt account", "The Cosby Show is such a great show and has soooooo many culturally relevant people and stories in it. I loved it growing up, but I just cant bring myself to let my kids watch it now.", "Yeah, and this special set up the entire first season. And yet Americas dad was raping the shit out of so many women.", "Like Adam Sandler!", "Huh?", "[Here the joke is being used by a Tallahassee newspaper in 1956](https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37667811/walked-three-miles-to-and-from-school/)", "What makes you think this is the first time that joke has been used?", "My dad used to tell me a variation of this in the '70s. Except it was also blowing snow in both directions.", "Adam Sandler played Theo's friend at their high school." ]	12	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/8JgjZ7NYRCY	/r/videos/comments/r0237f/what_the_inside_of_a_ct_scanner_looks_like_while/	[ "And then Sam Neill steps out with no eyes", "Where we are going, you don’t need eyes", "It costs $400,000 dollars to run this machine...for twelve seconds.\n\nWell, I mean, not for the hospital. But for you.", "I heard once that a machine like that can pay itself back in a day or a couple days in some hospitals, absolutely outrageous." ]	4	videos	What the inside of a CT scanner looks like while operating.
https://youtu.be/1Gq22w_NfLc	/r/videos/comments/r0360w/mother_earth_on_weekend_update_discussing_climate/	[ "Dumb af - they need to quit already-", "Quit what? End the show?", "No- I say quit with all the political antics - everything is slowly becoming a political joke in the sway of the government's political narrative- I used to watch it to enjoy the jokes on both sides ( once upon a time of brutal honestly) now the company has definitely decided to mock anything but the political narrative- and mock those, especially, whom are against it-", "What??!?!?!?! Hahahaha politics have literally been part of this show for decades and decades and its literally always been one sided. Jesus do you not know what you're talking about hahahahahahahahaha just a wildly stupid take from the same kind of person. Also your profile shows that you absolutely love talking politics you just do t agree with them but thanks for coming out sweetheart.", "Why is the environment politicized?\n\nFrom where I'm standing, taking care of the Earth is common sense, like brushing your teeth. Making it political is on the person who thinks there's an advantageous political angle in convincing people not to brush their teeth.", "We can’t lose these dental surgeon jobs! Dentists spend lots of money in this town.", "Agree x100. Left leaning politics have been a big part of the show for 47 years. Also, there was a lot of political stuff in that episode, but, the earth dying (while a politicized topic) is pretty low on that list I’d say. Like, it felt a bit more of a human statement than a political one.", "Nothing in this was political. Climate change is happening.", "Found the centrist." ]	9	videos	Mother Earth on Weekend Update discussing climate change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF-KrSnixr4	/r/videos/comments/r038zt/elon_musks_first_wife_describes_their_relationship/	[ "That says so much lol I always imagine relationships are like It tells so much of the person if you cant stand them or they are crazy", "If it's about Elon and it is on reddit- it must be negative", "Well, Elon is a fucking asshole, so yeah. Justified.", "If it's about Harvey (Weinstein) and it is on Reddit-it must be negative", "Dude get over yourself, he's never gonna sleep with you", "If it’s about Elon musk and it’s on Reddit - it must be news the mainstream media would not disseminate.", "Good. Fuck Elon." ]	7	videos	Elon Musks first wife describes their relationship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg	/r/videos/comments/r03pj2/all_your_old_memes_are_belong_to_us/	[ "The internet used to be a precious place.", "What a fucking banger.", "This made this game super rare and expensive." ]	3	videos	All Your Old Memes Are Belong to Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylW6qLo5CyY	/r/videos/comments/r04ebk/10_minutes_of_industrial_shredding/	[ "I had to turn it off when they started dropping books in. There's just something about destroying books that makes me sad.", "I was coming here to say the same thing. I mean everything’s gotta go I guess? Breaks the heart.", "one of those books is overdue from the library. fines incoming!", "[shred it bro!](https://youtube.com/shorts/IuqcG5nl2dU?feature=share)", "Low key horrifying.", "Oh man!! I worked on a Discovery Reality show about this company and its employees haha its was called SHRED and it aired in Canada!\nBasically it was about the \"drama\" of the business of SSI and the goofy antics of its workers. I was the guy that attached Go Pros inside and outside of the big shredders as well as setting up the high speed cameras to get all the juicy destruction. Anyway super fun to work on as a camera guy but terrible show haha\n\nI say \"drama\" because the show needed to seem dramatic but the company is very successful and honestly make some bad ass sized shredders. also everyone at SSI was really cool. \n\nTrailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpqV08trL50&ab_channel=DiscoveryCanada", "You guys should ask a librarian how many books they destroy a year. The number can be astounding. \n\nIt's called 'weeding' and every library will be getting rid of books like Windows XP for Dummies or a few of the fifty copies of Twilight every year to make space in the collection.", "I expected metal riffs.", "Kinda satisfying but also kinda sad.", "Who the hell is shredding books? Also isnt it pretty bad for the enviroment to be shredding laptops like that?" ]	10	videos	10 Minutes of Industrial Shredding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce7rhjSLIWc	/r/videos/comments/r05lyz/how_crispr_can_save_lives_and_exterminate_diseases/	[ "I keep hearing this but when can I have designer babies?? I’m tired of waiting for GATTACA", "These super rich wanna-be humanitarians should change few things:\n\n1. First their thinking that we forgot how they got all the money;\n2. Teach people how to avoid tax, because that's what they are really apt at doing.", "Redditors are finally coming to terms with the fact that they will never accomplish anything meaningful in their lives, and now they are lashing at people for accomplishing anything, because to accomplish things you have to earn money first instead of sitting around being superior on the internet.", "You say this as if it's something new.\n\nThat's the name of our game. Our 60.000 year old game.\n\n\"Redditors\" Arent realizing anything in plural. It's just people doing what we've always been doing.", "They're*\n\nThis is precisely why we can't skip taxes. Public education has gone to shit if you don't even know the difference between \"there, their, and they're\"", "That's exactly what should be there, as in \"their way of thinking needs to change\". Perhaps you should double-check yourself before calling out others.", "They are. That's what you were trying to say. \n\nOtherwise you just forgot to include \"way of\" in your comment.\n\nPerhaps you should double-check yourself before calling out others.", "Bill Gates want to tell you how great CRISPR is so when he patents aspects of it and uses his influence to control it you won't see him as the villain." ]	8	videos	How CRISPR can save lives and exterminate diseases
https://youtu.be/226w04QMPzQ	/r/videos/comments/r05t5b/discovering_buddhism_module_7_refuge_in_the_three/	[ "Thats not Buddha", "No, he’s a “Wick-an”", "I can't believe it's not" ]	3	videos	Discovering Buddhism Module 7 - Refuge in the three Jewels
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r05yel/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r05yel/deleted_by_user/	[ "What am I supposed to be watching?", "That's no parallax effect...", "i think you mean [Moiré pattern](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern)?", "[Moiré pattern](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moiré_pattern) \n \n >In mathematics, physics, and art, moiré patterns (UK: MWAR-ay, US: mwar-AY, French: [mwaʁe] (listen)) or moiré fringes are large-scale interference patterns that can be produced when an opaque ruled pattern with transparent gaps is overlaid on another similar pattern. For the moiré interference pattern to appear, the two patterns must not be completely identical, but rather displaced, rotated, or have slightly different pitch. Moiré patterns appear in many situations. In printing, the printed pattern of dots can interfere with the image.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWoF3ivfp5I	/r/videos/comments/r0660l/sting_what_could_have_been_unofficial_video/	[ "The Stinger!", "Der Stingelhofer! Makin' copies! The McStingster!", "Sting-a-ling-a-ding-dong!" ]	3	videos	Sting - What Could Have Been \| Unofficial video
https://vimeo.com/648840316	/r/videos/comments/r07i9m/i_remade_the_first_half_of_this_geometry_of/	[ "The original 'Geometry of Circles' was designed and animated by Cathryn Aison in the late 1970s, and aired for the first time in its entirety on Episode 1392 of Sesame Street in March, 1980.\n\nIt was later split into four parts and appeared on Sesame Street for many years after.\n\nThe music was written by Philip Glass.\n\nIf you watched Sesame Street as a kid in the 80s, there's a pretty high chance that you haven't thought about this animation since that time, but your brain will definitely remember it.\n\nI used Illustrator and After Effects to recreate the first half of the animation in 4k at 60fps.\nWhile I'm happy with the final result, it does lack the hand-animated charm of the original.", "This is what I loved about Sesame Street back then. All the weird animation segments and the music that went with them have been lovingly stuck in my head for decades. This is an awesome remake!", "This is a recreation of the flower of life also known\nsacred geometry- found inscribed within temples in Egypt - a well thought and intelligently designed tutorial for inspiring minds - thanks for reminding me of this and for respecting the original artists", "I'm subbed to /r/LSD and /r/DMT and such and I like this lolllll", "One two three four five, six seven eight nine ten, eleven tweeeeeeelve.\n\nSo many segments on that show soaked their way into my brain as a kid. :D", "Philip Glass! I was wondering why it gave me [Candyman soundtrack](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4_NI5x_gcE&t=552s) flashbacks." ]	6	videos	I remade the first half of this 'Geometry of Circles' animation from Sesame Street.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r07yh4/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r07yh4/deleted_by_user/	[ "Jared Dines is such a douche nozzle", "You should see him playing with TheDooo.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7baCuDetU", "He kept butting in over Herman Li well before Herman's bars were up.", "came here for this comment....", "He accused Lucas Mann of Rings Of Saturn of faking his guitar playing, talked all kind of shit about him. Lucas made a video verifying that all of his playing is legit, and he posted an apology (he deleted it) where he tried painting himself as a victim. Never liked the dork since then. Those videos of him gatekeeping metal by calling out people on their band shirts was lame as hell too", "Yea this is a much better collab", "Wheedely wheedeley wheedeley waaaahhhhh.", "It's called \"I wanna rock your body\", and then in parentheses it says (till the break of dawn).", "I'm not a fan of anyone named Jared.", "jared dines can suck my ass" ]	10	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/FfpJxErsd-0	/r/videos/comments/r08jyg/man_dragged_off_plane_by_security/	[ "Is that a 9/11 joke?", "I've never seen that \"Chinese government\" warning label on a channel before\n\nIs that a new thing?", "Because it’s a well known fact United had 2 planes hijacked on 9/11", "I'm just going to assume everyone else has no idea why this was posted and without context so here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Express_Flight_3411_incident", "Ok fair enough I was just explaining why I thought it was a 9/11 joke. You didn’t have to delete your comments u/Moteltulsa.", "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, for goodness sake you yanks, say something else, all the world hears you screech is oh my god", "Ha ha ha!", "kek gottem" ]	8	videos	Man dragged off plane by security
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r08o1d/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r08o1d/deleted_by_user/	[ "Looks like Nellie could do with a bit more fibre in her diet!", "HE SLIMED ME!", "I'm sure this scratches an itch for someone. Somewhere.", "How do you put this experience on a resume !!??", "Poop puller?" ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg62TIifINk	/r/videos/comments/r08xeu/man_creates_1980s_video_rental_store_in_basement/	[ "Fantabulous", "I remember the thrill of getting a copy of a hot new release movie and video game rental at the same time, so fun.", "\"There is a darkness within man, and I am afraid you will peer into it. Whether the fear will spark self-reflection, or a ruinous nostalgia is up to you entirely.\"", "Hello, sir. Can I just hang out in your basement for a month or two and watch all of your VHS tapes? Totally not creepy, just want to watch your mountain wall of horror. Am I the only one who keeps expecting the camera man to be dragged deeper into this maze of VHS tapes and never return?", "AVGN did the same thing years ago: \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6jVw5eZJjk", "Quentin Tarantino is going to see this video, lose his marbles, and immediately ask to become friends. Then, a couple of weeks later, there will inexplicably be a few posters of Uma Thurman’s feet in this guy’s basement.", "Oh I’m totally letting my 12 year old daughter go down there and pick up vhs", "I remember calling and seeing if a copy was in and having them hold it for me while I ran down there to get my tape. So nostalgic.", "Nice of them to do that for you. How about when all copies were out and then someone would drop it off through that slot. And score !", "I don't think there's anything wrong with reflecting on cool shit that's been lost to time, as long as you don't get too hung up on it and miss out on the now. As a film geek, I think instant streaming in 4k is dope and all but at the same time, I'm a little sad that my kids won't ever get to experience the thrill I had of spending time wandering around a video store to find a hidden gem, or chatting with the guy behind the counter for recommendations. Mindlessly scrolling through Netflix just isn't the same.", "Oh the simpler times... I could walk into a Blockbuster and only spend 20min trying to find a movie I wanted to watch, realize there were no actual VHS tapes behind the display box, then spend another 20min looking for movies that actually did have something to rent.\n\nOh, and don't get me started on the complexity of picking a something in the snack section by the registers lol", "Cargo Cult", "Shut up and take this Pyromancy Tome.", "No no the 80s were great.\n\n/s. Obviously.", "Why?", "I wish I could be friends with this dude…", "Yeah, people always have their nostalgia glasses on about video-rental stores but they always forget how much the absolutely sucked. \n\nWhen you went to find a copy of a movie or video game that just came out and they had it in stock? That was a great feeling! \n\nBut I distinctly remember walking around Hollywood Video (yes, the knockoff Blockbuster) a few times a year and it was deflating finding out that you've already watched all the movies you want to see that they had in stock.", "That’s so fantastic. I have claustrophobia and the lack of windows hardly bothered me.", "There is more selection than there was in the 80's, given that he has at least several movies from the late 90's in there that I noticed.", "what was wrong with being a kid in the 80s? I have so many great memories tied to that nostalgia, but I wasn't doing coke off the back of stripers when I was 8 (unfortunately).", "The Kentucky Fried Movie.... Lol. \"Catholic high school girls in trouble!!\"", "hackers in the comedy section?? blasphemy i tell you!!!", "I'm like 50/50. It's all about context of the memories you have tied to that nostalgia. I absolutely love old video arcade games as it reminds me of the good times I had at a camp we always went to that had an arcade where all the kids hung out and I met so many great friends. But I also get depressed when I go back to my old home town and get the nostalgic feelings about having a shitty time in high school.", "I didn't mention being a kid. My thoughts went more to like Reagan/Thatcher, a lot of trash music we've all forgotten about (and some we haven't), and America doing terrible things to Latin America. \n\nBut I was born in 86 so I'm not gonna claim being a kid in the 80s wasn't awesome. It certainly was great being one in the early 90s.", "He lost me at the kitchen. Then I thought, maybe his wife is making him move in down there or she’s leaving.", "This place needs a popcorn machine and heavy popcorn odor to complete the video store vibe.", "HACK THE PLANET!", "\"of all the things ive lost, I miss my mind the most\"", "I used to frequent the now-defunct Hastings store a lot. Their rental section always had a lot of deep dives I couldn't find anywhere else and they were like 99 cents with my membership. Sigh... lots of great late nights of entertainment in college during the late 00s that will never happen again :(", "i cant find a damn thing on netflix...but i saw like 20 videos in that clip i would watch.", "Was waiting for the awkward tour of the Adults Only section...", "I've wondered if there's any market for a VR app that simulates something like this.\n\nLike, you either use it as a frontend for your movie collection like Plex or Kodi, or you sync it with whatever streaming services you subscribe to, or both. Then it simulates a video store, pulling down metadata to fill the shelves with boxes organized by genre like a real one. You can wander around, maybe even pick up and examine the movies. Wouldn't be hard to, say, put the poster on the front and a few things like RT scores and cast on the back.\n\nI'm sure the technology to do this exists, but I'm not sure how much the market that has adopted VR and the one that's old enough to be nostalgic for video stores overlaps.", "Never fear, I is here.", "the whole \"store\" is a ruse to display his adult vhs tapes.\n\nthe creepy hat confirms it", "Nostalgia is fun and all but like walking around a store looking at movies was just something we had to do back then. Let's stop pretending its such an amazing event", "Cause now we can just type the movie into our controller and watch it, but we still act like seeing physical copies is way better for no good reason. Means you can't appreciate the present", "Getting a movie with friends was one of the best times. The experience of going to the store, be it walking, biking or driving, and then looking through each of the covers together, laughing at all the 70s and 80s nonsense that they had, and then going to the grocery store down the street to pick up some snacks. Sure it took like an hour and half but the whole experience was part of the fun of movie night. All that time with your friends just talking about stupid shit.\n\nThere's something to be said for convenience and efficiency, but I think there's something to be missed about spending time within the journey as well.", "Sure it sucked for you people who were older, but for us who were kids at the time it was a fun adventure every time.", "Absolutely. The other thing I noticed is in those days, because of that effort involved and the cost, I would actually value the experience of watching a film way more than I do now that I have hundreds of titles at my fingers. Back then I would be way more immersed in the film because I knew that was my only chance to watch it, also I didn't have multiple other screens to distract me.", "The movie was not Mannequin, it was Opportunity Knocks.", "The hole store", "We didn't even get to check out the \"adult video\" section, what a bummer", "Yeah the amount of media that I consume now through out the day is amazing. Only by actively stopping myself from consuming, can I get a breath of time to myself. I think that's why I still love the movie going experience so much. There's rarely a designated time where you have to shut everything else off these days.", "the thing for me with things like this is cleaning it is just a massive pain in the butt and do you really trust a cleaner to care enough to deal with it? and if you do what happens if she goes on holiday?\n\nit feels like such a old man thing to say but got damm i want to minimize upkeep tasks so i have more fun time stuff.", "I caught that as well.\n\n\"Ahem. Documentary, sir.\"", "I was definitely a kid at the time and thought it was hit or miss.", "It is my goal to have an absolutely epic theater room in my basement, but [this absolutely perfectly designed theater apparently](https://keithyates.com/home-theater-of-the-month-the-hahn-theater/) costed multi-millions of dollars (I actually called the builders). I really feel that it shouldn't cost more than $200,000 in terms of materials and labor for the room. I'd do all the sound, computer, projector myself but honestly one day I want something that rivals an actual theater. It'd be nice to have it in a basement, but a room like this would have to have major excavation work. I stress out thinking how I'm going to have it done. Wish I could find \"a guy\" that could be my wing man to help me out.", "Wait until you hear about the shit going on in the present.", "Career Opportunities.", "Fuck. That's what I was thinking of. I've seen both and got them mixed up. Thank you. Opportunity Knocks is with Dana Carvey.", "Pretty sure this is the video that was playing on TV for Career Opportunities\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFtiwNUDIcs", "I guess it's more about other factors then. For me it might have been because I was living in the countryside and being poorish, we did it rarely enough for it to be something to always look forward to.", "Lol reddit is salty today. Like noting bad things in the 80s somehow makes me unaware of bad things happening now, or is logically related at all.", "Same, same, but different.", "Hahaa - ain't for your kids, good sir - it's for mine.", "\"Hi, I'm Anthony!\"", "Seems like an awful waste of work to display a few cheesy porn parodies XD", "@ Mondo Video! my tapes are always in stock at my house - for me to watch them XD" ]	63	videos	Man creates 1980s video rental store in basement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXm9SbY4iIc&6mX	/r/videos/comments/r095u3/how_greek_mythology_inspires_us/	[ "Lindsey Ellis is a treasure!", "Interesting to see Homer not being mentioned once in this video. The Iliad and the Odyssey are pretty much the cornerstone of western literature canon and almost every subplot of modern novella are explored between the two epic poems.\n\nIt's not surprising to see it still has influence as it's almost impossible to escape Homer's gravity from a literary device perspective. They were incredibly comprehensive books/poems.", "She is, but that editing is atrocious. Whoosh wham, whoosh whooh..." ]	3	videos	How Greek Mythology Inspires Us
https://youtu.be/4ldjbjwim4k	/r/videos/comments/r0a2mo/taking_back_sunday_makedamnsure/	[ "such a beautiful video and song", "i miss when they played videos instead of ridiculousness.", "RIP Riverfront Stadium", "I remember watching this on my PSP so many times", "It was always the same block of songs at the same time every day. I'd be eating breakfast before school and would watch local news every morning. During commercials I'd switch to MTV and the same song was always playing during the same commercial break slots. There was a wonderful time they would play Colony of Birchmen by Mastadon right before I had to leave for school everyday. It was great.", "Watching this today is like watching enter sandman in 2006. Yikes.", "They think people won't watch because music videos are available on YouTube. But there are plenty of ways to keep it fresh for a TV audience. There's literally >40 years of music videos at their disposal. I may not sit on my couch and watch TRL but I'd definitely have it on in the background while I got shit done around the house. \n\nHave a short intro from the artist via zoom talking about writing the song and shooting the video. Play the music video. Repeat 5-6 times and boom. That's 23 minutes of content that I'd half watch and listen to while I clean up and fold laundry or something.\n\nWhat they're really saying is \"People won't watch the same 20 videos over and over again any more so we'd rather play Rob Dyrdek re-runs instead\"", "I worked at Best Buy for almost a decade and this song played on the TVs above the now-defunct music department for 4+ years because no one could figure out how to update the video files. Along with Mr Brightside, White Houses and some country song called My Town.\n\nI still love me some Taking Back Sunday but if I hear any of the other 3, I immediately feel the need to puke.", "Yep. https://youtu.be/tx7YgiIcDaQ. Felt emo again might delete.", "Still one of my favorite bands", "I'm not old, YOU'RE OLD!", "Brand New > TBS", "How does their official YouTube channel have such a low quality video?", "Both are incredible!", "Shot on potato in the early ought’s, my love!", "You say as you sit in your rocking chair beside me…", "Their music on this album and before makes me think of a distinct time in my life and I just love that it brings me back for both the good and the bad that I felt.", "I still love it! I go to emo night in Dallas whenever it comes to town. It's a blast!", "I was just listening to them all again recently. Brand New, a day to remember, MCR, Senses fail, atreyu... all great.", "Saw them right before the pandemic, lots of faded sleeve tattoos and puckered gauge holes. Was a great show.", "I believe they mostly stopped playing videos around 2002 or 2003, and went for all the reality garbage.", "Shame about Jesse Lacey eh", "Oh man that brings me back to the drama back then! Very interesting see unfold at the time! I think they’ve all pretty much said it was over a while ago and they moved on. Geez forgot about that!\n\nEdit: Referring to a VERY different non-illegal personal/professional drama here. Holy Cow. See comment below. Did not know of any “holy shit” stuff.", "HEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHHEEHEHEHEHEHEHHHHHH", "Amazing. That’s my high school song list encapsulated lol. Thankful for Spotify so I don’t have to be a pirate or figure out where my crusty-ass cd’s went to", "I am SO happy I got to see them at Project Revolution a while ago. My more mature self hopes that Adam damn Lazzara isn’t still swinging that mic around his neck like a madman :) made for a great show though", "I’ve seen so many well known artists simply take to Twitch now to do live shows and interact with their fans.\n\nI’m of that end time where MTV was that music platform but I have high hopes that it can continue elsewhere.", "I think they were referring to Jesse being accused of asking teenage girls for nudes.\n\nHe made a statement after their support pulled out of the tour. Never mentioned it, mostly that he regretted cheating on his wife.\n\nI can't listen to them anymore.", "OMG! Wow, uh, I feel like an ass because I never kept up enough to hear of that! \n\nHoly fucking shit.\n\nEdit: huh. probably bad when you have to ask “which drama?”.", "I have a record of theirs coming in the mail tomorrow!", "Apples and oranges, personally.", "Just a straight older music video up on the front page of this sub? Not sure why, but I'm not complaining since it's TBS.", "In 2021, we just copy and paste youtube comments on reddit.", "Their other big song, \"cute with the E\", is pretty much the perfect emo song title. The whole trend should've stopped right there and realized it was never going to peak harder than that song title.", "They were my favorite band in my teens/20s. After all that came out, I just can't listen to him having pitty parties for himself all over Devil and God and Daisy knowing what he was doing to fuel those songs.", "Tpain incorporates a lot of his music on his streams so they can def so the same and I like where you head is at /u/Dlun203 id happily sit my ass down and watch the artist talk for a few then the video", "if i hear “ya mo be there” one more time..”", "I was indeed, and I also can’t listen to them anymore alas. Used to love ‘em", "Lol, watching this from a rocking chair in my living room by my window so I can see who's getting too close to my lawn. I'm 33, but this video brought me back.", "You couldn't upload videos in 360p on Youtube for the first year or so. 240 or 144p only", "Saw them not too long ago and Adam spent the entire night talking like Colonel Sanders. Not sure if that's emo or not.", "i've seen at least 200+ bands live. Taking back sunday is top 25 live performances i've seen when I saw them in ~2014-15. i wasn't even a huge fan but friends wanted to go, walked away very happy and dove a lot further into their music afterwards.", "Still have their song on my Spotify playlist. Hear it usually all the time at the gym", "My playlist starts with Senses Fail then dabbles with some LTJ, Goldfinger, etc, then moves on to Story of the Year, The Used and Finch before moving on to A Static Lullaby, Thrice and Killswitch. I miss the good old days.", "My wife & I have at-home date nights enjoying adult beverages and take turns playing music videos on YT. This is the one video/song we both geek out hard for.", "I’m 33 too you… you goober! (What the fuck are the youths using as insults these days? Help me out here!)", "Is that Jonah Hill on rhythm guitar?", "LMAO when I was last tuning in to their live performances Adam Lazzarra had made the move from Brooklyn/Long Island to Texas and then North Carolina. Totally noticed the shift to a more southern twang!", "I had just as good of a time seeing them in the back of a stadium as I had seeing other bands up in front. Really says something to me.", "I need your playlist.", "You should have a listen to Terrible Things - [Spotify link](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2oTegc3VscshBHH8T9uGU5?si=SKsEG-jGRfWQ4aHPAOfsmQ).\n\nAfter leaving the band, Fred did a project with a few other famous faces and it honestly deserved so much more attention!", "They’re still one of my all time favourites. \n\n2004-2006 emo era was, and will always be, my era.", "> YOUR LIPSTICK, HIS COLLAR, ANGEL - I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT GOES ON \n\nAnd [music video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ap0mqwvf7H0) based on Fight Club? chef’s kiss\n\nEdit: yo don’t downvote u/JediMasterZao he’s giving a compliment! Name your emo band/song you reminisce about and we will probably love it too!", "SKSK, All Time Low, Chiodos, Mayday Parade, peak Underoath, Saosin, Circa Survive, Four Year Strong, MCR, From First to Last.\n\nIf you push it one more year you get August Burns Red's Messengers. Truly amazing albums were coming out.", "Everything they did after the first record is garbage.", "I'm going to go out on a limb and say... “Fart Knocker”?", "… yeah! You fuckin CART FOCKER!!", "Boys like you are a dime a dozen", "Me too, best gigs of my life too.\n\nShit.", "The 2000s really were a dark time for rock music", "Rock has always been amazing to me, what era to you consider the best?", "Probably the 90's because the interest in metal as a form of pop music(glam) sort of died and all the more extreme stuff came into its own.\n\nI have no idea what the fuck happened around the turn of the millenium but rock music suddenly became super whiny and that radio-rock started becoming really popular(Hoobastank, Creed, The Script, stuff like that). The rap-rock combinations didn't work that well either. There's stuff that holds up, but I find a lot of it seems to have a characteristic 2000's sound. \n\nThere's good and bad music from every era, it's just that the 2000's for me have a really distinct sound which I'm not a huge fan of", "There’s still remnants of every era of the rock music of yore. You just gotta find it and sometimes musicians experiment with the older sounds differently. \n\nI don’t know what you consider “metal” cause it goes from Black Sabbath to Linkin Park to Coheed and Cambria to me just to name a few?\n\nThere’s just so many flavors of it and it’s like choosing the only ice cream flavor you want for the rest of your life if you pick one.\n\nEdit: tell me you hate Tenacious D.", "This album was my first really favorite album of my high school years. What a tune!", "heh.", "I used to love singing this song in Rockband.", "Rawr ex dee", "Of all the stadiums demolished, in all of the world. They chose Cincinnati. Maybe that's why I always liked this band?", "The transition from the napalm to the ballerina is some nice editing.", "This just hit me like a ton a bricks. I just found out a good friend from high school (2007) past away today. This was his favorite album and he would play it at every HS party. We are gathering tonight and there is a 100% we will play this song.", "Dude same! I got to see them this year at Firefly festival after wanting to see them for over half my life. It was hands down on of the best times i've had at a show.", "Taking Back Sunday and My Chemical Romance are the GOAT pop punk bands.", "240P", "I don't think 144p existed until like 2012", "Still one of the best concerts of my life, taste of chaos UK, a few weeks after still searching came out. That line up was stacked, senses fail, taking back Sunday, saosin, underoath. Good times", "Stray light run", "I just want to go back to a time when I actually felt.", "oohh so close", "You'd better Make Damn Sure, RIP to your friend.", "Don't stop I'm close", "Taste of Chaos US was great too! Caught it Lowell MA way back in the day.", "TBS was touring with Saosin back in maybe 2006-2008 (somewhere in there) and for some reason that show didn’t stop in Portland, OR. \n\nBut Saosin decided to play a show here, so a few friends and I went and I’m standing and listening and having a great time when I bump into Adam Lazzara. Pretty cool to enjoy a concert with the singer from one of my all time favorites.", "Yeah... as a teen I was filling out college essays and for Cornell I had to pick a quote and I chose the TBS lyric \"The truth, is you could slit my throat, and with my one last gasping breath I'd apologize for bleeding on your shirt.\" \nI tied it into their school colors being red and how dedicated I was to get in there and school spirit and just the full cringe/10. Needless to say I didn't get in. It was the only school that rejected me, wasn't even the best school I applied to but there's no way they're admitting that psycho. \nI didn't even learn my lesson, it was a frequent AIM away message alongside hits like the chorus from Halifax - Broken Glass Syndrome. Which if you know it is just all kinds of weird to post with no context.", "Tell All Your Friends is still in my top three albums of all time.", "I'm 32 and I don't remember this at all. Sounds familiar. Though I think It was ten bands that sounded exactly the same and looked exactly the same. Maybe Breaking Benjamin was the closest I got. Like a transition , but I didn't follow through.", "Senses Fail, The Devil Wears Prada, Say Anything, Aiden, Bayside. Here's some real deep cuts; The Classic Crime, Lucky Boy Confusion, Schoolyard Heroes", "Love to see A Static Lullaby get mentioned here. Props!", "You okay there buddy?", "Damn I’m jealous. Something like that happened with my sister. They played a show at or near Six Flags and she went there early during the day to enjoy the rides before the show. She’s first in line for a roller coaster when the whole band rolls up with fast passes. Band members were really kind and felt sorry for their special treatment. So after a nice chat, my sister ends up getting to sit next to Adam on the roller coaster. I should despise her for this hahah", "Fun fact: lead singer from From First to Last is Skrillex. blew my mind back in the day.", "Ooh yes. Breaking Benjamin was my jam for at least two solid years. YOU’RE SO COLD KEEP uhYOUR … HAND IN MINE!", "I remember that my parents only bought me the PSP for Christmas (which came with the demo disk). I listened to Crossfade - So Cold ....SO MANY DAMN TIMES. Took me 3 days to hustle a game, once stores were open for the holidays.", "In highschool I won a radio show contest where I got to meet the band and go to a haunted house w them lol. It was p great", "Spectacular song from a spectacular album. There's a reason Kerrang Magazine called Louder Now their Album of the Year 2006." ]	94	videos	Taking Back Sunday - MakeDamnSure
https://youtu.be/rZvaVHNuBmM	/r/videos/comments/r0a574/buzz_of_bobby/	[ "Off*", "\"Go buy another yacht and just stay on it!\"", "🤣 great line!" ]	3	videos	Buzz of Bobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qXuSRgWEFk	/r/videos/comments/r0azaf/elephant_vs_car/	[ "There's a good part at 25s where the elephant ass-rubs the car.", "Wouldn’t care to explain that to insurance without video.", "Driver so dumb they almost got themselves killed. Insurance fraud has gone too far. Seriously though, they could have gotten out of there so much quicker.", "Ass rub? That's a full on hood sit", "There's a longer version of this video that shows more cars on the road. There were some other cars trying to back up and get out of the way... and the guy in this car got stuck waiting until it was too late.", "Reminds me that I hate it when my wife wants to sit in my lap when I'm watching TV.", "thats a comprahensive claim if ive ever seen one" ]	7	videos	Elephant vs Car
https://youtu.be/Bho6xY-jSuE	/r/videos/comments/r0b9fi/indian_historian_on_hypocrisy_of_developed_world/	[ "Really dude? Another country \"forced\" coal on you? How else were you going to make electricity? Power steam engines? Every country in the planet was burning coal for it at the same time. The difference is India never tried to stop.\n\n*Nobody else is to blame for India keeping coal as it's primary source of power except India. Other sources of electricity have existed for over 100 years, it's not anyone else's fault India isn't building it.", "Congrats on missing the point.", "To a certain degree i get why these countries feel it like this. but the fact is also that the very same countries get the benefit of renewable research that have been done in other countries. If not cutting down coal for England's sake why not do it for your own people. [Over 1m people every year dies in india due to Smog problem](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210909-the-young-inventor-purifying-indias-dirty-air) Add in all the other health problems it causes your population and you should see that coal has no real future. \n\n[Delhi smog: Schools and colleges shut as pollution worsens](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-59258910)", "My* point is the guy is trying to make other people pay for his country's problems, that it's somehow other country's fault. Britain's previous control over India has nothing to do with their current Energy Policy. \n\nHe's blame shifting to every possible place except *India. It's not Britain's fault that India doesn't invest in waste management and more efficient energy construction. His bullshit \"money stolen from India\" comment is an excuse to not use the money lent to them wisely because he somehow thinks India deserves more from other countries.\n\nHim and Indian conservatives like him can fuck right off.", "Again. Still missing the point. \n\nI’ll make it really easy for you. Wealthy nations are in a position to move away from coal. Developing nations are not. \n\nTelling India to “use less coal” is oblivious to their inability to transition. That inability is a direct result of historical actions.\n\nIt’s like wearing a t-shirt that says “stop being poor”.", "Ah yes, that is why the UN policy is such a bullshit over the years. But, somehow the colonial stupidity of your own people make your home country not much better. But if you dare to break the chain of world supply of those colonialist countries, prepare yourself for a fate like Iraq or Libya.", "Oh, so the shirt says \"It's everyone else's fault\" instead. Wait, that's the usual response.", "Did you watch the video? He's saying the British came over and used resources to create wealth, profits and a stable economy. India then does this and we condescendingly chastise them for doing the same thing WE* did.\n\nYou can't expect a country that had many genocides against them, enslaved, robbed and systematically oppressed to suddenly because a bastion of economic prosperity.\n\nIt's as if I cut down half a forest to build myself a house and then when I see someone doing the same I tell them cutting down trees is not good for the environment without offering a feasible alternative.\n\nWe want to ignore the terrible things we did to get where we are so we can criticise the people who we did the terrible things to.", "> India then does this and we condescendingly chastise them for doing the same thing WE did.\n\nThe idea that countries are entitled to purposefully repeat mistakes that other countries did in the past when no one knew better and take down the whole planet in the process is one of the dumbest thing that humanity ever came up with.", "\"We can't afford to stop killing the planet, we're a developing nation\", says the country with the 3rd largest military budget in the world.\n\nThat stands for China even more. Stop treating countries with aircraft carriers and space programs as \"developing nation\". They can afford to clean their act.", "\"Over 1m people every year dies in india due to smug problem\"\n\nSouth park even tackled the dangers of smug!", "You're right, as a developed nation, we should all be investing massively into creating green alternatives for these developing nations we exploited.\n\nTelling India that coal is bad but not offering any alternatives and just hoping that they'll somehow find the money to pull themselves up by their bootstraps is a fucking insane thing to propose wouldn't you agree?\n\nThe US and UK haven't even been able to be inpenedent from coal and we stole billions in profits from slavery and stolen resources, imagine how hard it would be for a developing nation.", "We are offering alternatives. Western nations spent money researching and developping alternatives. The alternatives are here and they arent even expensive anymore.\n\nIndia and China are no longer developing nations. India has the 3rd largest military budget in the world, China the second. Both have a space program. Don't come here and tell us they can't find the money. They have the money, they just want others to pay.", "I love it when idiots bring out the 'ThEy haVE A SpAcE pRoGraM' shit. The same program has created countless of jobs and saved countless lives thanks to accurate adverse weather event predictions.", "It takes an enormous amount of energy to lift a nation out of poverty.\n\nIndia’s life expectancy is 69 years. \n\nThat’s the same life expectancy the UK enjoyed back in 1960. \n\nWhen you demand India stop using coal you’re effectively putting the breaks on their development. And if your response is “just use renewables instead” then you’re showing your ignorance. \n\nIt’s like loading bricks on someone running last in a race. Wealthy nations have the ability to transition because they’ve already achieved the base minimum. \n\n1 in 10 people in India still don’t have access to water. The guy in this video is referencing the condescension in telling poor nations to stop being poor after they made them poor.", "Lame. Trump 2020", "If the the UK and US, the most developed nations on earth, are still dependent on coal, despite having such strong economies, how can we expect less developed nations to do the same. \n\nAlso you're conflating budgets with economic prosperity. India and China have massive budgets because they are large nations with large populations. Calculating an average income is a much better marker for a nations economic prosperity but then your point doesn't work so you choose to ignore it. A country is only as prosperous as its average, every day person. Just because China and India are manufacturing giants doesn't mean that money goes straight back into their country.\n\nYou're either very ignorant on the subject or trolling.", "It makes sense that the countries with the highest populations would have the highest military budgets. Having the 3rd largest military budget doesn't really mean anything when your population is that huge. \n\nChina has a population of 1.4 billion, large parts of the country are still developing and priority is being put on getting those parts up to speed with the rest of the country. In the developed areas they are absolutely doing a good job, and the country as a whole has per capita emissions that are lower than the United States.\n\nThey're also a very newly developed country. 20 years ago they were extremely poor. That's not a very long time and they should be praised for managing to get all this infrastructure in place so quickly. Americans had a century head start and they're still behind, they spent that century polluting without care and plunged us into this crisis. \n\nIf human civilization survives this, history will view the USA as the reason why this happened, not China and India.", "India spends 73 billion annually on its military. They can afford to put some of their soldiers to build solar panels instead, and there is just no excuse for it.", "When you've got China nibbling away at your territory. And Islamic terrorists on both borders, I'd expect expenditures on the military. India learnt from a 1000 years of foreign invasions and colonizations. There's a reason why there's no buddhists in Pakistan and Afghanistan.", "I hear concentration camps are really expensive as well. And you can't just have one right?", "You know what could create a lot of jobs and avoid catastrophic weather events and millions of deaths through air pollution? Building solar panels to replace coal.\n\nThe point is that India cannot be considered a developing nation by any stretch of the imagination. They have the wealth, knowledge and technology to phase out coal if they make it a priority.", "India gained independence from the British in 1947.\nSri Lanka 1948.\nOman gained sovereignty in 1956.\nMalaysia 1957.\nSingapore 1959.\n\nNot easy to improve more but not impossible. Singapore for example has got no space and burns lots of natural gas.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality", "[Victim mentality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality) \n \n >Victim mentality is an acquired personality trait in which a person tends to recognize or consider themselves as a victim of the negative actions of others, and to behave as if this were the case in the face of contrary evidence of such circumstances. Victim mentality depends on clear thought processes and attribution. In some cases, those with a victim mentality have in fact been the victim of wrongdoing by others or have otherwise suffered misfortune through no fault of their own.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "> India spends 73 billion annually on its military.\n\nbecause when they didn't, a bunch of terrorist thugs and warlords from an island country came and invaded, raped, pillaged, stole everything even tiles from historical buildings, breaking of jewels from statues, and fucked everything up", "Still want to have a planet to fight over? Then China and India better get rid of coal and we should coerce them with trade blocus if they dont do it themselves.", "Huh? The median wealth per adult in India is $3,000 USD. \n\nIn Europe it’s $27,000. (In the US it’s $82,000). \n\nNo… India is not a wealthy nation. It’s a developing nation.", "Why can't us Brits give back our stolen money back to the Indians. If you were robbed, it would feel infuriating for your robber to have the audacity to tell you that you can work harder to get the money back that THEY STOLE FROM YOU.\n\nLet's do reparations first before passing any judgements.\n\nOnce the reparations are done, you can go back to judging them like you are now.", "I didnt take anything from India and they're still screwing the planet for me and everyone else.", "I didn't take from India either, I'm still benefitting from the impact of the exploitation though. \n\nYou're very short sighted aren't you.\n\nThere's an infinitesimal number of ways that those stolen profits have improved and shaped our society and economy today. You're too small minded to see it so you think reparations are unfair because we EARNED our wealthy status fair and square.", "Yes its somewhat hypocritical but also there are better alternatives and the process has been streamlined, companies are just selfish and want to do shit on the cheap.", "Im not benefitting. In fact, my people was subjugated by the British. That didnt stop us from getting to 100% clean power. If you have nothing better than schoolyard insults, its time for some introspection.", "Who were your people if you don't mind me asking?\n\nAlso, short sighted isn't really a school yard insult so much as it is an observation of your beliefs and ideas.", "Its more fun if you guess. There arent a lot of places with 100% clean electricity.", "Indian independance was 1947, it is now 2021 its getting close to 100 years. 'we' didnt do shit, our parents didnt, and their parents most likely were too young to do shit, my grandparents parents MAYBE, did something. 80+ years is too long for the 'its other people's fault,' line, at some point they were just to lazy or unwilling to update their own infrastructure.", "With that logic, slaves were freed in the 1800s, why do you think black people are still more likely to be poor than their white peers?", "Noone in the us or uk is dependant on coal... I dont know where u get that from.", "Ah, I see we are in the blame everybody else part of the game now.", "Why aren't we 100% coal free? In the past decade we've made a move away from coal but we still haven't entirely cycled it out.\n\nSurely as the superior and harder working nation, we should have been coal free decades ago.", "Indian politics is \"the blame game with no actual action\" taken to the next level. This is it spilling up to the global level.", "You’re the one being disingenuous. \n\nTotal wealth is a BS metric. \n\nIf you have 100 people (each with $1), they’re not “wealthier” than a single person with $10. \n\nThe energy requirements of those 100 people negate their additional cumulative wealth ie: feeding two children is more expensive than feeding one. \n\nThis isn’t complicated.", "That is a false equivalentcy based on something completly different in a different country (i assume the US because its not the case anywhere else...) with a differnt political space and a different culture. So my 'logic' is not related to your statement because your statement is not only misleading as an equivilent statement but also demonstrates you are not thinking about the topic and just implying that political, cultral and economic problems are systemic of our white ancestors. Which ignores the fact that india doesnt do shit to help itself. Like update the damn rail system its had since the 20s or provide apropriate sewage disposal for cities. In conclusion your comment about slaves is dumb.", "Ok so by this logic which countries can use slaves without any judgement", "r/murderedbywords", "Would you say the same about slavery", "I understand that it's not really fair, but the atmosphere does not care whether a ton of carbon being emitted is fair or unfair carbon\n\nAnd in addition, coal is really bad beyond that! Coal emissions are horrible for people's health, lead to lung diseases, cancers, shortened lifespan. Coal mining is filthy and extremely dangerous, especially the kind of mining happening in India. The same kinds of labor abuses that happened in the West Virginia coal mines in America in the 19th and early 20th century happen in Chinese and Indian mines today, except without the labor unions\n\nOf course this makes sense for Vijay Prashard, whose is that unfortunately too common breed of socialist that sees opposing the US as the #1 goal of world leftism, and thus requires him to slavishly defend the governments of India and China, defend the economic interests of Indian and Chinese coal barons, defend the abuse of workers and poisoning of the atmosphere, because doing so would own the libs\n\nThe single largest carbon emitter in human history is the Chinese state coal monopoly. Fair or unfair, that needs to end - and I think most Chinese people would prefer that their energy not come from cancer causing and sky blackening coal!", ">we should coerce them with trade blocus if they dont do it themselves\n\nyou are just a bloke on internet\n\nno one gives two fucks what you think\n\nno one is putting \"blocus\" (whatever the fuck that means) on anyone on your suggestion", "The Brits are getting whats coming to them. 250 years ago, thats only 3 people ago, the sun never set on their empire. Now? They can't can even secure a shipment of cheese.", "No because its still usefull and has a purpose, and its ok to use if its kept below a certain level, and its responsibility controlled. Just because its outdated doisnt mean useless and unusable.", "There's 2 solutions, one is allowing India to do to the UK what the UK did to India. To me this in not really a solution and achieves nothing but revenge.\n\nThe second, better option would be reparations of stolen profits to be paid back in infrastructure and development of green energy production to make India more independent so they can move away from fossil fuels.", "China is LOLing at everyone.", "US and UK might not be wholly dependant on coal but it is definitely dependant on fossil fuels. It is absolutely ludicrous that the west that literally looted a country, literacy rate remained at 13% and then STILL people are complaining about developing nations. \n\nThe west carbon footprint MUST include things that is produced on places like China and India specifically for their markets.", "Why is it different? You're saying after a certain amount of time, it's not really anyone's fault but your own if your economic prospects are not good. How does this logic not apply to the US population of black people?", "Actually, let's check up on the numbers. India is 3rd in the world on renewable energy sources. Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_India\n\nSo it looks like things are on their way. Sure, it is never perfect but they seem to be making a real effort.", "[Renewable energy in India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_India) \n \n >India is world's 3rd largest consumer of electricity and world's 3rd largest renewable energy producer with 38% (136 GW out of 373 GW) of total installed energy capacity in 2020 from renewable sources. Ernst & Young's (EY) 2021 Renewable Energy Country Attractiveness Index (RECAI) ranked India 3rd behind USA and China. In 2016, Paris Agreement's Intended Nationally Determined Contributions targets, India made commitment of producing 50% of its total electricity from non-fossil fuel sources by 2030. In 2018, India's Central Electricity Authority set a target of producing 50% of the total electricity from non-fossil fuels sources by 2030.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", ">India’s life expectancy is 69 years.\n\nI wonder why, what with all the pollution they create /s", "Nice!", "Lol. Wow. You still don’t get it?\n\nLet’s use a simple analogy.\n\nHousehold A has $100 in the bank. They have two kids.\n\nHousehold B has $110 in the bank. They have ten kids. \n\nWhich household finds it easier to buy new clothes for all their children?\n\nNow look at Household C (who has 1.38 billion kids )and continue pretending cumulative wealth is a meaningful metric. \n\nGet it now?", "Lmao if you're claiming iceland as subjugated. And of course the dipshit who ignores per capita income and focuses on budget also ignores most countries lack large geothermal energy sources. Iceland must be shittier than I remember if this is what the people act like. Guess you gotta settle for being smug online when you can't even go outside.", "Not Iceland. Good guess though.", "You do realise that independence isn't like handing over the keys. Look at Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam and the heralding of its new era of 'democracy'.\n\nFormer colonies like India are left with an empires infrastructure but neither the know how, technical ability, resources or finances to keep it functioning. Not to mention that imperial overlords usually kept all of the locals in order through massacres, genocide and famines but once they step aside the underlying social and economic problems are unleashed on the new state.\n\nWhile we're at it, taking India as an example, the former imperial overlord also decides to split your country in two causing millions of deaths and effectively kicking off a regional feud. One post isn't enough to outline the blockers in place for nations like India, but suffice to say keeping the lights on isn't as easy as some would like to portray.", "They're highly addictive!", "Yeah if you don't even live in the obvious answer, you're nothing but a cunt for making people guess.\n\n>my people was\n\nIs it somewhere that English is a second language?", "Imagine a well connected thief moving in to your neighbourhood. Over short period he robs you and everyone around you for everything you got. With that money he build himself a nice house, starts a buisness and sends his kids to elite schools.\nOne generation later his kids perk their nose high and lecture everyone in the neighbourhood how they just need to get educated and work hard and they can have everything they do. When your kids point out they got there with stolen money, they say: WE didn't steal the money. Our father was a thief, but everything we have, we got on our own education and hard work. You poor people are jut lazy and want to blame everyone else for your problems.\nIt may not be what you are saying, but for me, that's how you and everyone from ex colonial superpower sound like.", "India has nuclear subs which are 530 million $ a pop, if they can afford those they can afford to start construction of nuclear powerplants or other options. All this \"we're a developing nation\" shit gets old pretty quickly when you have a 4 billion usd space program. Maybe you should take care of your shit on the ground before reaching for the stars huh?", "And this is the exact mentality he was referring too. Educate yourself on the British rule of India and you might not sound so smugly American (whether you actually are or not). Could India have done better? Sure, as could be said about literally every single country on the planet. But they were handed a situation where doing so was way way more difficult than the countries whose citizens like to sit on their nonexistent high horse and lecture, which I’d suspect you are from, that have done no better.", ">Is it somewhere that English is a second language?\n\nYes.", "Good thing developing nation refers to their per capita income. But I'm sure you knew that.", ">It's as if I cut down half a forest to build myself a house and then when I see someone doing the same I tell them cutting down trees is not good for the environment\n\nI'm going to take your metaphor and twist it a bit, encapsulating the struggles of colonialism. You have a good starting point for discussion.\n\n\nI come over to someone's forest, I see that they're building houses out of straw, and ask to cut down his trees. The person agrees, and I cut off waaayyy more trees than he expected. I build great houses with his trees. He sees what I've built, and also wants to build those things too. I tell him he can't, because there's not enough trees. Fighting breaks out, and I beat him up, and take more of his trees anyway. Eventually at some point I don't need his trees anymore, I leave. The man is now left battered and bruised with only a few trees left. What's more, his ego is hurt worse. Because he knows the only way to compete and get revenge on me is to use up the remainder of his trees to try and build the same things I did. \n\nThe often unacknowledged side of colonialism is its imitation by oppressed regimes. Which is a contradiction to their claims. China does this. India does this. But they know they can't go back to their old ways because it's inferior. That inferiority complex breeds a type of pessimism to any suggestions of change. Because they know they have to once again, acknowledge their inferiority. Even if time passes and bruises heal. Egos are much harder to reconcile. So these countries will continue to try and forget their own paths, often repeating avoidable mistakes.", "He's a bit full of himself, starving people and climate change are different unrelated areas. He needs to recall where he is and get his head out of his ass.", "Doesn't matter, if they worked harder they would've been where the whites are today.\n\nWorking hard always equates to prosperity. This is why slave owners were so wealthy, they worked hard whipping their slaves whilst the lazy slaves just did manual labour 16 hours a day, 7 days a week.", "Their failure to control their demographics to sustainable levels does not excuse them. They have all the means they need.", "Cumulative wealth would matter if each nation had to build the same number of wind farms. \n\nThey don’t. India needs to build a sht tonne more.", "So basically the average indian has less right to exist than the average person simply because there's more indians than other people, and in a single country instead of multiple. Well that's very ethnocentrist of you.\n\nCompare India's budget to NATO. Compare all of western europe and the US to India. That is a fair comparison. But you won't because it doesn't fit your views.\n\nRacist piece of shit.", "Thank you for explaining it better than I could have.", "> The second, better option would be reparations of stolen profits to be paid back in infrastructure\n\nHow far back shall we go? Should every empire past or present have to pay back their profits to their former colonies? If not, why should the British have to pay India?\n\nAt this point it's not about whether it is \"fair\" for India to be criticised for using coal when western countries have already profited off of using it. We are facing a climate crisis that is threatening the literal future existence of our species, and this guy in the video is complaining that it's so unfair they have to spend some money to reduce emissions...", "Encouraging the worst polluting nations to keep increasingly high levels of poor population in order to keep a \"developing\" status is not sustainable nor is it ethical nor does it have anything to do with race. Invest in some sex ed on top of the solar panels.", "What a lovely positive contribution. Thanks for swinging by!", "India doesn't have a low per capita income because it has a lot of people. It has a low per capita income because it's... a developing nation that doesn't have a lot of stored assets.\n\nStop thinking about everything in terms of countries and start thinking in terms of people. Thinking about in terms of countries just distorts the argument. The US and EU act more like a single bloc than India does.", "No. Im saying us slavery and indias infastructure are not equally comparable and so using one to prove the worthyness of an argument about the other is dumb. And yes 80 years+ is a long enough time to be able to process towards moving away from a coal infastructure, they have the means to do it. AND ALSO, its litrally nothing to do with people in americas predudices towards their black communitys.", "I am still waiting for California to disappear up its own ass.", ">The west carbon footprint MUST include things that is produced on places like China and India specifically for their markets.\n\nI wouldn't have a clue about the actual numbers off the top of my head, this is more of a curiosity point but wouldn't that go both ways? \n\nAustralia is generally considered \"the west\" and the majority of our iron ore for example goes to China? So then if Australia were to take into account things produced for them in China shouldn't China do the same?", ">How far back shall we go?\n\nAs far back as it suits you. \n\nFor too long have I waited for the riches stolen by Alexander the Great from my people. I'll consider it even when I have a chest full of gold coins and jewels.", "Italy would be so screwed and imagine the Mongols. I truly dislike this idea of reparations...", "Energy plants have a finite output genius. \n\nInfrastructure projects (and their subsequent cost) scale up due to population genius. \n\nI’ve invested far too much time trying to explain these incredibly simple concepts. \n\nHave a great week.", ">no one gives two fucks what you think\n\nOddly enough, this is the rest of the world's view on India.", "The response should be: step 1 - define problem, step 2 - explore solutions, step 3 - pick solution and implement it.\n\nInstead it seems the response is: step 1 - moan about how things are unfair and how you feel bad, step 2 - nothing", "\"tHiS cOuNtRy hAs bIlLiNaIrEs aNd mAnUfAcTuReS mY cOuNtRiEs gOoDs, tHeReFoRe tHe mAjORiTy oF tHeIr pEoPle mUsT nOt lIvE iN aBjEcT pOvErTy\"", "I'm sorry, but you're really ignoring history here /u/butsuon. What the speaker in this video is referencing is the history of the [Burmah Oil Company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmah_Oil) and its preceding Rangoon Oil Company (same guy), which were both founded in Glasgow for the purpose of exploiting oilfields in present day India and Myanmar.\n\nThe Indian subcontinent was not fossil fuel dependent until the Brits arrived in 1858. These fuels were used to power the British Raj, as well as to construct infrastructure on an immense scale that would support its continued use. It's been snowballing ever since, and after the British were forced to walk away in 1947, they effectively washed their hands of the mess they created. \n\nSo to you point of \"never tried to stop,\" the region never really had a chance to break away from the energy status quo imposed by Britain. To do so would be impossibly expensive, and there's no way the UK would pay for the decolonization, despite having profited a great deal from nearly a century of colonial resource extraction/exploitation.\n\nI believe this is why the speaker finds it all to be very condescending.", "Except india is a country made up of over 1.3 billion people and cant be related to my neighbours taking my money. Countrys get trade deals, economic benifits, humanitarian aid, loans and has 1.3 billion people to be able to do this. Its governments just have not focused on improving its infastructure. Also saying 85+ years is not enough time to recover completely is fine, but in many cases litrally 0 effort to move away from coal (or outdated transport/hygene) has been made at all and hiding behind the fact that colonials took some usefull materials 85 years ago doesnt excuse the position its in.", "Absolutely should go both ways. Now, it would be very interesting to see the data on exports, consumption etc. \n\nOverall saying developing nations are not getting with the times and going for renewable energy sources is just idiotic. They are MUCH poorer per capita than any developed nation. \n\nDeveloped nations should provide the research for renewable energy for free to developing nations but it does not work that way. Fossil fuels usage are also completely entrenched in the way off life and to shift that to moe expensive solutions when people literally starve just won't happen. \n\nManufacturing for most developed countries have completely shifted to India, China etc. If what the guy said is true and US consumes 25% of the worlds resources...then I struggle to see how these countries are not the root cause of the issue whilst also maintaining a stance for renewables.", "Well in this circumstance, the problem would be “how to drag a nation out of poverty”. \n\nThe solution would be “provide more energy”. \n\nThat’s what India is doing. Sorry but when 1 in 10 people don’t have access to running water, I’m not sure climate change is their most pressing issue.", "The progressive eat their own.", ">Absolutely should go both ways. Now, it would be very interesting to see the data on exports, consumption etc\n\nIt would wouldn't it? I would be very curious to see how it turns. Though I'm sure a nightmare to work out xD", "consumption levels are multiple times higher in america , canada and other places compared to developing world. if you can't make changes as an individual than why are u expecting others to do the same. cop26 was just industrialized world shaming developing nations instead of taking accountability. thats why nothing gets done because its easier to pass the blame", "Cool, let's also stop treating the US/UK as developed/first-world/free/democratic/whatever other superlative labels you guys prefer to attach to yourselves nations because your politicians can't get their act together or believe the science just like half your population and continue to destroy the planet much much faster because of your higher than sustainable lifestyle choices. Should we treat the US like the war torn Middle East or some African nation since you guys seem to have a gun-related mass shooting every other week? apparently according to you idiots here, developing nations shouldn't have ambitions or securities of their own.", "China is 50% of the worlds coal consumption alone. I dont think including the wests footprint to cover areas it can do nothing active to reduce is usefull in any way apart from sentiment (and therefore isnt practically usefull at all). Also the west is making programmes to reduce fossil fuel while india and china are not, or at least are not following them.", "Such idiocy. By this logic every shitty thing ever done for money is a ok because aww our country sucks wahhhh.", "I agree, every country needs to get off fossil fuel right now, no excuse, regardless of labels. Where I live we have a high energy consumption per capita however we are 100% renewable for electricity, almost 100% for heating. We still have some ways to go for transport but ICE vehicles are slated to be illegal to sell and electric vehicle adoption is high. Oh and we developed most of our renewables in a time when we were still a nation of poor uneducated workers and you know what, it was a huge boon to our development, both economical and societal.", ">Encouraging the worst polluting nations\n\nThe US has a significantly* worse per-capita footprint than either China or India.", "This can never be said enough: The climate does not care about per-capita.", "> Both have a space program. \n\nYou should take a quick look at NASA's budget vs ISRO's budget.", "half this sub are probably white teenagers who haven't stepped outside their comfortable suburban home and just rehash some points they memorized reading reddit comments and regurgitate it on here without actually having any semblance of original sentient thought or ground experience.", "If IRSO can launch rockets, surely India has the knowledge and technology to manufacture solar panels.", "[How's that going in the USA?](https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/)", "Wait, am I missing something here. USA, Canada and other Western countries have the highest per Capita greenhouse emissions. But it is on India which consumes less and produces less greenhouse gases to be more responsible.", "Again, you're asking countries who are a lot poorer per capita to adopt quite new and expensive technology. It is a fair statement to say that they need to start somewhere, but it isn't going to win elections because too many people would suffer on the back off that. \n\nIf developed countries struggle to make radical changes then how can we expect developing nations to?", "By that same logic, it's not India's fault that the so-called developed nations cannot get their shit in order despite having a 100 year head start. why must we bend over and relinquish the betterment of our lifestyle that none of these developed nations bothered to think about when they were growing/developing?\n\nThey're blame shifting to every possible place except themselves. It's not India's fault that Americans and American politicians don't believe in science and American families still own 2+ gas guzzling cars on average. Their bullshit \"developing nations must curb coal\" argument is an excuse to not invest in their own people's education because they somehow think developed nations deserve a pass.\n\nDeveloped nations politicians can fuck right off.", "But as I said....if what the man says is true and that US consumes 25% of the worlds resources....then you have an idea of the result?", "The climate does not care about per-capita emissions. That a lot of people in India live in poverty and consume almost no energy does not make it ok for India to kill the climate with coal and the oceans with garbage.", "Its been delayed by Britain's exit but also india isnt in the same position as 85 years ago and has many new infastructural practicise that are chap and viable and not used... also it has recovered from the 45trillion because the ammount you are talking about is related to inflation and therefore is not as impactfull as actually losing 45 trillion its more like losing 30million... 85 years ago. And while it could have been used to help build towards an infastructure base to improve on, its still not there 85 years later.", "what??\n\nthe whole point is they want India and China to stop using Coal\n\nif they think coal is fine then who's not giving two fucks?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nit seems you had an urge to comment and wrote whatever random shit floats in your head", "Calling China a developing country when they are literally number two and pining for number one as we speak........ Riiiight......", "They are overusing, thats the point, and the technology isnt expensive for their government to adopt slowly. The issue is not that they shouldnt be forced to do it because they are less well off, the issue is that they can make some useful and meaningful steps but arnt and then people wanna jump in and say its not their fault for making 0 effort, Cus they arnt is as good of a positiom as the people who are actually trying.", "Im not american, but it looks like they need to do more efforts too. They had a good thing going with nuclear, they should have continued.", "And how many more people do each of them have than we do?...... How many of those \"per capita\" blocks do they have more than the US again?", "So if India was to divvy up into smaller countries who are you going to blame", "You know what the climate does care about though? having billions of more people......", "> no one gives two fucks what you think", ">who are you going to blame\n\nEveryone still using coal.", "That's a totally valid point, but it's not related to spurious allegations of hypocrisy with two centuries between incidents.", "Indeed, the overpopulation is a problem. Countries, all of them, need to stop relying on population increase to grow their GDP.", "Yeah it's totally all America's fault with our 350 million out of over 7 billion people", "Riiiight, so the rest of the world has to pick up their slack, even though when you exclude China the rest of the world didn't go and have nearly 1.5 billion people now did they?", "There is no comparison..... \"we\" did not have anywhere even remotely close to 1.4 billion people when \"we\" were doing the things you're talking about....... And that's not even including China.....", "Acting as if India is retarded and isn't fully aware of all of the alternatives they could use..... acting as if they haven't been looking into it for decades is just plain ridiculous\n\nWhat the hell is this? Indian fragility? You think they're too stupid to know about or understand energy alternatives? Lol......", "Acting as if renewable are super cheap and accessible and easy to implement on such a large scale in a massive country with massive a population who the majority of are extremely poor. Lol...", "This comes down to literacy. People who can barely put food on the table have no hope. Developed nations enjoyed polluting the air etc. \n\nThe scale of which renewable energy needs to be adopted is going to be much slower in developing nations. They aren't in a good position to accept this. I personally wouldn't say what they are doing is right but it is a bit silly to think they will adopt this tech when it is massive struggle for developed nations to do so.", "You clearly do since you keep replying", "When did they say that and point to exactly what they said that referred to that? \n\nYou're trying to mock them but at the same exact time you're acting as if the lowest common denominator poor people, and least educated people, in India are the only ones that could possibly invest in or make decisions about their energy future.......", "How can you expect a country with massive food insecurity, crime and poverty to put that all on the back-burner to focus on renewables. \n\nWe don't have nearly the same extent of the issues which is what allows us to focus on clean energy investment. \n\nYou're saying the government should just set those problems aside for now so they can implement renewables.", "The way y'all are talking about China is literally comical... \n\nThe country with endless ghost cities, larger than most American cities, sitting there absolutely empty while they continue building more of them....... I'm just full of sympathy!\n\nBut yea, poor poor poor uneducated China right? The country with several of the most advanced cities in the world......", "This comes down to literacy. People who can barely put food on the table have no hope. Developed nations enjoyed polluting the air etc. \n\nThe scale of which renewable energy needs to be adopted is going to be much slower in developing nations. They aren't in a good position to accept this. I personally wouldn't say what they are doing is right but it is a bit silly to think they will adopt this tech when it is massive struggle for developed nations to do so.", "Yea its not like they have money to waste", "Name calling seems to be your go-to thing isn't it? I bet you think that makes you a real top-notch arguer huh?", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Unity", "Which part would you consider name calling?", "But we made them that way. They ended up being the country that essentially enjoy the vast majority of the manufacturing world. So many things have been outsourced to these countries. \n\nWe never looked internally and said maybe we shouldn't do that. No one is saying that China is in anyway a helpless child. This was done by the developed world. The power they gained was allowed by them. It's just reaping what you sow. \n\nHave some cities that is the most advanced whilst the vast majority of the population not living in such cities seems a bit of a contradiction....China does have like 1.5 billion people...", "CO2 emissions in 2018\n\nUS: 5.41GT\n\nIndia: 2.65GT\n\nCO2 emissions per capita 2018\n\nUS: 16.56T\n\nIndia: 1.96T\n\n[Source](https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emissions)", "Y'all keep talking about India as if everyone there is retarded and you don't seem to understand how unbelievably condescending that sounds..... This whole fragility fad is getting old fast...... You all spend more time talking about how you know other people are dumb, and need your help just to survive, than you do actually listening to those people......", "I was thinking there was a bunch of people arguing this in the comment section, but now that I've actually started paying attention, it's just you... It's just you going down through there flaunting your views on Indian fragility, while attacking absolutely anything anyone else says to the contrary of your superior viewpoints......\n\nIt's really something to behold", "They are third in a weird \"Energy Country Attractiveness Index\".\n\nIn terms of percentage of renewables, India is 82nd.\n\nThey are fifth in total renewable production, I guess thats a way of saying how much worst the situation could be.", "I think their bigger point is that even if china end their polluting behavior it will simply cause the first world to outsource production to other third world countries. To these countries the health effects of pollution and the long term damage that will result from emissions do not justify the destruction of their entire economies in the present. All climate action would do as far as china and india are concerned is tank the economy while not actually changing emissions, instead we would simply see americans companies invest tons of money into africa and they would gradually become the world's factory. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nAdmittedly, china is the world's manufacturing power for more reasons than cheap labor and lax regulations. Its also due to relative stability, good infrastructure, having lots of resources, and a lot of government policy that keeps prices down. So the world can magically switch to africa for all of its industrial needs. You could maybe make the argument that by crashing the global economy china could reduce emissions, although this arrangement would be temporary for a ton of reasons.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nMy point here is that until the west can change its consumption habits pollution will continue, and if you are a third world country theres no point in stopping, because if you stop polluting then someone else will start polluting. Thats the material reality of our society.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIf you ask me, the best thing America can do is to move manufacturing back home as much as possible. We can then mandate that products are produced as sustainably as possible. We can also couple this with broader climate action to reduce emissions and wasteful use of resources. This will raise prices and consumption will go down (not a bad thing as far as the planet is concerned), and yeah that sounds bad but everything in this world is a transaction, and personally i think that the value of protecting ourselves from climate disaster and not relying on others (as much) is worth the cost of fewer Gucci handbags.\n\n \nI should note that what I want likely will never materialize, but I can dream.", "Yeah because a single instance of that is totally equivalent to an entire country that has had outstanding growth in all aspects in that intervening time, except for the ones that would have benefited them the most as opposed to others.....", "Well this is my troll account. I leave clues towards my real account but so far no one has worked it out. You should check my twitter bc it makes more sense w/ context", "Are seriously showing how they are wasting money by linking a statue they built? What country do you know that does not waste money? Stuff like this is obviously done to win elections.....and barely hold any other meaningful value. \n\nHow about the stupid number of stadiums in the US or the fact that each household owns multiple cars or having literally the largest military budget or having spend the most on healthcare in the world but have the most medical related debt in the world?", "There are companies that make sustainable products but they are more expensive. Consumers decide they want cheap instead of sustainable.", "The climate doesn't care about arbitrary human definition of state or nation either. At the end of the day, average person in US produces more emission than average person in India. Fix your shit.", "Yes but in those countries more than 1 in 10 people have access to fresh water, have a sewage system and dont use trains built in 1901.", "The USA has the world's highest cumulative emissions, even with their 350 million out of 7 billion people. They are the biggest contributor to climate change overall.", "The US shit is no more my shit than India's. 100% of the electricity and heating I use are from renewables.", "That includes you if you're importing goods from or offshoring services to India or China.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)\n\nIndia is 6th on the list of wealthiest nations by GDP which puts them firmly ahead of literally every \"western\" nation except america, germany, and the UK. And they're only a hair behind the UK in terms of wealth. \n\nIndia has no one to blame for their own monetary problems but themselves at this point.", "Yes, that is the long term effects of looting countries coupled with leaving them illiterate and/or using them as slaves. \n\nAbsolutely lunacy to think there are no long term issues with historical events. Using current day statistics to change a course for 1.1 billion people just comes across as being a hypocrite.", "Hopefully India and China can move their production to Africa to solve their pollution problems.", "Dog shit argument", "India is richer than Britain and we know this because the average Indian is much wealthier than the average Brit.", "Do you not use electricity from electric grid? How do you know 100% of your electricity is from renewables?", "Climate also doesn't care about nations and borders. If India dissolves into 100 countries climate would be better, right?", "Yes it hypocritical and also yes that doesn't matter the problem is still the problem even if someone guy Shat in the pond first", "There are long term effects, that could be solved or massively alliviated by their government correctly allocating their funds and making progress in economic policys but instead they build the worlds largest statue and spend billions on their military.", "This is also my standard response to that bullshit argument", "> no one gives two fucks what you think", "Wat", "I think the issue is that often times that kind of technology requires heavy amounts of training at all different levels that rely on heavy infrastructure reform and $$$. The reason that developing countries use non-renewable sources is because it is cheap, dependable and easy to manage. Replacing the infrastructure within a region takes more than just a simple setup as well. You have to provide training to educated people who will understand, have enough people who are interested in going into the field for a viable future (if there aren't enough jobs, they would simply move to another country), and also train people who can maintain such systems as well. If the ecosystem of jobs is not set up properly, such renewable sources or even nuclear energy become worthless or dangerous.\n\nAll of this can be outsourced, but if not properly managed, these countries will end up technologically enslaved to the outsourcing company for perpetuity. There aren't a lot of financial incentive for such companies to go and help set it up, as the $$$ is not even close to what can be provided in first world countries. There are often stories of woe from countries who are ravaged by an international war, and then new infrastructures set in place by international companies, only to do a piss poor job, suck all the money out of the country and then leave.\n\nSo unless there is some kind of united coalition that has enough power to push this kind of long term set up for these companies, there aren't a lot of ways for these countries to move away from fossil fuels until they naturally progress to said point. However, a lot of these countries are often also financially forced into relatively low wage work systems to keep production export up for developed countries, so they cannot begin to improve their infrastructure even if they want to.", "Our entire electric grid is 100% renewable. We do not have electric plants that arent hydro, solar or wind.", "I gotta ask, why did you choose to post about GDP and not GDP per capita? Do you honestly believe that GDP is the better metric here?", "This is a disgusting argument that tries throw the blame off corporations. When you're poor like MANY people are, you don't get to \"make a choice\". You get cheap cause that's all you can afford.", "CLIMATE ALSO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT NATIONS AND BORDERS. IF INDIA DISSOLVES INTO 100 COUNTRIES CLIMATE WOULD BE BETTER, RIGHT?", "Stop getting your news from Facebook and you'll realize Californians are just humans too. \n\nDirty, grimy west-coasters but still human.", "They are trying. It takes time to educate people and build the infrastructure needed. They've achieved more in 20 years than some western countries have managed in 100. The USA and Europe finally stopped (mostly) using coal and suddenly they expect nations that developed far later than them to have done it too. \n\nYou don't get to pollute the planet for over a century and then start sanctioning more recently developed nations because they didn't stop fast enough.", "Good lord you're still going. Dont they give you breaks at the troll farm?", "You're not wrong. Everyone could be doing more. Currently not a single major nation is doing enough for climate change.\n\nBut the point of this whole discussion is that it is unfair and hypocritical for established developed countries (with much higher - 20x or more - GDP per capita than India or China) to blame developing countries. You have a good argument that China is no longer a developing country, but the GDP per capita of China is still 1/5 of that of the US. You mention military budget, and while yes, India and China has the 2nd and 3rd highest military spending in the world, even if you add every other country in the top 10 list they would still be dwarfed by the US military budget. China and India have very large land borders, have close enemies, and have domestic terrorist within their borders and foreign terrorists outside borders. What does the US have other than the need to be the global hegemon? \n\nAll that is besides the point. What is most compelling is that both China and India are doing far more for climate change mitigation than the US. They both emit way less per capita and at least in the case of China are way ahead when compared to the US in terms of renewable energy planning and production. It's also relevant that countries like India and China are often home to dirtier industry and manufacturing that developed countries depend on, and this makes up a significant part of their own emissions.", "Congratulations on living in an area with renewables. Real accomplishment. Now you can freely go annoy those that are less fortunate without your conscious bothering you.", "> it seems you had an urge to comment and wrote whatever random shit floats in your head\n\nThe lack of self-awareness here tickles... and cOP clearly meant blocks or blockades... which yes, is silly since no one can afford to not buy Chinese goods, but don't be so intentionally dense to pick on someone's typo.", "So what will you do then? Comment and be a keyboard warrior?", "Very true but Let's take an example with the 1mdb scandal in Malaysia. Who do you think facilitated the corruption? Who do you think taught the corrupt politicians how to launder money? In this day and age....in every country...who do you think is trying to influence and loot developing countries for their own benefit? \n\n\nDeveloping nations have sold their infrastructure to the biggest bidder. China. Why do you think people like le Bron or even the government bow down to them? \n\nLike you say it could be solved, but it won't. It is actually getting worse and worse. That's what I believe anyway.", "USA is #2 in total emissions. India is #3 by having 50% less emission than the USA.\n\nSo yeah, I agree they should lower their emissions, but if we're going to focus on totals, than mainly the USA and China need to step the fuck up.", "We made that switch several generations ago when we were still a nation of poor uneducated workers. It was not a \"good fortune\", it was a good investment.", "Vijay Parshad, the guy in the video, is hated by the Indian govt too. He participated in the protests against the Indian govt.", "Point out your hypocritical idiocy and move on with my delightful day in the real world. Peace!", "Yeah, doing better than the US is not enough. Its not the bar we should hold countries to.", "Several generations ago? Do you live in an area with good hydro potential?", ">There's a reason why there's no buddhists in Pakistan and Afghanistan\n\nthere is a reason why there are barely any Buddhists in India too. The Hindu nationalists in India are as extreme and cruel, if not more, as the Islamists.", "Yes. Shitty solar and wind, but good hydro.", "The issue is there is no alternative offered. \n\nI guess staying poor and live without electricity for the sake of other people like people across the world driving coal-rolling pickup trucks is the noble thing to do.", "You can't compare the carbon footprint of a poor family trying to cook with coal vs an American buying his third hummer.", "Definitely, no one is doing enough. They are doing far better than most major nations though, especially is you account for exported manufacturing.", "India has a 73 billion USD military budget. Thats a lot of solar panels every year.", ">when no one knew better\n\nYou're wrong. Exxon knew about climate change as far back as 1977.", "In that case it just sounds like you are ignorant of energy, energy policy, and the history of energy. You got lucky and live in an area with hydro potential. Most people are not so lucky. Get off your high horse bud. You think India and China have not developed/are not developing their hydro? What is your excuse for the Chinese wind and solar industry far surpassing yours?", "I agree but, its also a bigger issue when countries with poor infrastructure have the money intended to improve it get siphoned away, as they are more likely to have the bodies that are intended to assist in this become corrupt. Money is much more of an influence when they have none. Which is why Its important that we do hold them to higher standards and have outside interference from the UN, G12, etc ((from countries who can influence and provide alternatives but may have helped causeed the problem) not the point)), because its a bigger problem and needs more attention. I, however dont think it can STILL be blamed on a poor transition from collonialism that happened over 3 generations ago. (while it definately didnt help).", "So decades after India was free.", "> Western nations spent money researching and developping alternatives. The alternatives are here and they arent even expensive anymore.\n\nAnd America has the largest. Infact America's military budget is larger than the next 5 combined. So instead of lecturing others, why not cut your own.", "And India has a far, far easier climate, rather good hydro and fantastic solar potential.\n\n> What is your excuse for the Chinese wind and solar industry far surpassing yours?\n\nWe dont need it? We have more surplus than what we can currently export.", "That's not why it holds no water. Them benefiting from it is irrelevant. \n\nWe are one planet, it makes no difference whether the factories are in China or India or the USA. Humans consume, and the fact that the factories catering to that consumption are gathered in one part of the planet doesn't matter. \n\nBesides, even with all the factories there, their per-capita emissions are still lower than the USA. That just goes to show how high the consumption is in the west.", "Because Im not american?", "Ah, I see we are in the don't watch the video and make a comment on it part of the thread now.", "He is not an Indian conservative. Indian conservatives hate him. \nReturning to your point, Britain and most of the western world achieved high growth and economic prosperity by mindless and brutal exploitation of their colonies. In doing that they also emitted a lot of GHG. In that phase, they harmed the environment, and left their colonies impoverished. \nNow that those colonies are trying to pull their populations out of poverty, west comes in lecturing those who whom they exploited for 2 centuries, to not pollute the environment.", "What are you talking about? Sorry for discussing climate change, I hope I didn't upset you.", "Your demand to cut the military budget of only India and China makes one think so.", "One is wrong to think so. Also I demanded no such thing.", "Get off the internet and live a life instead of lies. Enough of randian comedians everywhere. Joker.", "But if they lift it out of poverty with coal the world at the equator will soon become impossible to survive in....", "Get off the gomutra. Sanghi.", "I’m sorry, is there a factual inaccuracy in my comment?", "Conflicts from the past, will for sure be the solutions to problems of the future. /s", "I completely agree with money being siphoned off. That is unfortunately the reality. Power corrupts, money corrupts. Now, developing nations enjoying the influx of money + literally being taught how to siphon it all away under the noses of the public. This is why I bring about the point about literacy. I believe there is a reason why education although is being invested in....is not really being invested in enough to reach people especially poorer people.\n\nI believe it is intended this way to keep them unaware about what is happening until it's too late. We all know propaganda works. Russia, China even the west now....we all know it works very very well. \n\n India's colonialism lasted till 1947. Even if it had a transition period....the effects most certainly will be felt today. \n\nPlease do not think I do not wish they were held to a higher standard. All I was trying to say that the result of this is due to a product of its history, corruption and the developed countries enabling said corruption.", "Exactly, and [steps are being made to help bring this in to developing nations.](https://sciencebusiness.net/climate-news/news/cop26-series-initiatives-aims-accelerate-transfer-green-technology-developing) Of course more can be done by developed nations, especially where so many fell short of their previous agreement to add to the climate fund. But everyone needs to do their part or we won't even be able to limit warming to 2 degrees.", "You do realize that the US also puts out more total emissions than India does, right?\n\nChina is the only country that emits more. But they also do the bulk of the manufacturing for American bought goods.", "I am a Californian and waiting to disappear up my own ass though. This is a science experiment. West Coast is the Best Coast anyways.", "Its not a competition. Both need to stop using coal then all hydrocarbons.", "Per capita is the only thing the climate cares about lol. What do you think, balkanizing India and China would just make their emissions disappear?\n\n\nThe fact is, Americans live an order of magnitude less sustainably than either Indians or Chinese.", "> The Hindu nationalists in India are as extreme and cruel, if not more, as the Islamists.\n\nYou can't be serious. While I don't disagree that some of the Hindutva radicals are straight up criminals, there's no way that they are on the level of radical Islamists (Just look at ISIS ffs). You can't tell me with a straight face that there is anything Hindutva radicals have done that is comparable to the Charlie Hebdo attack.", "https://i.imgur.com/cMBIzbh.jpg", ">What do you think, balkanizing India and China would just make their emissions disappear?\n\nNo, precisely because it wouldn't change the total emissions on the planet.", "Can't understand what you wrote, but thanks for your support", "how is it idiotic to point out to your dumb ass that there's no way you are putting a \"blockus\" on china\n\nif you could why didn't you put it years ago when they started doing much worse things\n\nonline losers who can only whine", "Exactly -- the size of the country doesn't matter. What matters are the emissions per person, which are am order of magnitude higher in the US than in India or China.\n\nIt doesn't matter if the US is one country or 50, the amount of emissions is unsustainable because Americans live unsustainably.", "You're lying about climate change. You honestly believe that China causes less emissions than the US? At least if you actually cared about climate change you would call out both countries as large contributors. Can you do that?", "And if you had to borrow money from that family? After all, your family has spent generations just getting back to positive zero. You would say, sure, its fair? \n\nYou are a better person than me then.", ">You can't tell me with a straight face that there is anything Hindutva radicals have done that is comparable to the Charlie Hebdo attack.\n\nI can tell you three cases actually \n\n1. Assassination of Narendra Dabholkar [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra\\_Dabholkar#Assassination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Dabholkar#Assassination)\n2. Assassination of Gobind Pansare [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govind\\_Pansare#Assassination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govind_Pansare#Assassination)\n3. Assassination of MM Kalburgi [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.\\_M.\\_Kalburgi#Assassination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._M._Kalburgi#Assassination)\n\nThen there is widely popular Hindu Guru Swami Yati Narsinghanand Saraswati who enjoys wide popularity and his words are no less than Baghdadi's in terms of spewing hate.", "So how many times are you going to move the goalposts here?\n\nI agree that everyone should be reducing if not eliminating emissions. \n\nBut the West both needs to lead by example and needs to assist countries financially that did not have the advantage of using cheap coal for 200 years to build their economy at the expense of the planet.", "Oh, the irony.", "> no one gives two fucks what you think", "Reading thru your comment history to feel better about myself lmao", "OK? No. We (all of humanity) need to consume less. Tighten our belt so to speak. But it is not people who cant afford meat every day of the week who need to tighten the belt. It is not the person that has 2 pairs of shoes that needs to stop buying so much clothes. It is not the guy who just got a motorbike so he can travel to school that needs to guzzle less gazoline.\n\nIt is us. We don't NEED so many things or so many life comforts. We have stuff, food and entertainment available to us that even emperors didn't dream of few centuries ago. It would be nice if we could keep living this (in the \"developed world\"), consequence free, but obviously, we cant.", "it seems you took some iron to your head and have lost capability to critically analyze other's comments", "you can't because you are clearly retarded", "I've never thought about the \"Western countries outsource production\" argument. While yes, China and India have ramped up CO2 emissions a lot faster then Western countries, but it would indeed be extremely harsch to blame all the emissions on the country of origin. There lies at least partial blame in the production/consumption society we live by in our Western world.", "Why not just say that. He's blaming some ephemeral problem of colonialism whereas he should just say, \"we don't care about climate change\". Except that would not be politically acceptable.", "repeating past problems by saying “you did it too” is really really stupid. \n\nFirst of all the industrialisation of England was not on the scale of India and China, just due to the number of people alone. Secondly climate change was not even discussed much less right here like now.\n\nSecondly, Egypt grew its empire with slaves, and thats energy free compared to oil. If India wants to get out of poverty they could use that incredibly simple alternative and save the environment at the same time. There is no argument by which you can defend oil that cannot be used to defend slavery in regards to the indian energy grid. \n\nIf you have money to fund a space program, you can not destroy the planet. Its that simple", "they don't want to listen", "Spitting hot fire", "Indeed. There are seven private firms in the world which have produced more than 10 BILLION tons of carbon dioxide equivalent in the past sixty years: Chevron, ExxonMobil, BP, Royal Dutch Shell, Peabody Energy, ConocoPhillips, and Total SA.\n\nAll seven are either US or European corporations.\n\nIf we're blaming the private sector, which I agree that we should, we need the US/UK/EU to clamp down and heavily regulate these companies. Until they do, it's absurdly hypocritical for the West to place blame on China or India.", ">\tthink their bigger point is that even if china end their polluting behavior it will simply cause the first world to outsource production to other third world countries\n\nYou can just tax carbon emissions. Taxing externalities in general would improve massively the health of our economy. Some people are getting rich out of paying less than they should. If you tax carbon it doesn’t matter if its produced in China or Ethiopia. So china does not lose manufacturing and things get insignificantly more expensive in the west while almost entirely eliminating polluting products", "How about just start with not shitting on the beach?", "The problem is the us vs them mentality. There are a lot of ways one could invent to solve this but it seems like there aren't any ways that will be politically palatable because each country will view them as unfair because of things that are planned in the future or things that were done in the past.", "So what to do? I can change personally, and be pain in the A for m colleagues. But that's not enough is it? We need a global initiative of such scale that it unites the planet. How do we force the people that are supposed to lead us to actually do so? Without violence.\nGenuine question. Is there a sub for those discussions? Are there real world org doing something like that?", "America doesn't produce more emission than China, but American people do produce more emissions than Chinese people.\n\nMore importantly:\n\n> China’s pollution is largely made in America.\n\n> Simply put, corporate America has fueled much of China’s carbon-belching industrial behemoth. U.S. corporations and investors exploited China’s relatively few environmental regulations, along with its vast supply of cheap labor, in an effort to minimize the cost of doing their business. U.S. corporations were able to relocate their manufacturing to China thanks in no small part to All-American economic policies emphasizing maximum profit and avoidance of regulations. Those policies, in turn, globalized the supply chains that made those profitable regulatory dodges possible.\n\nThat doesn't remove blame from China, but it shows that American companies are driving emissions, not just in the US but around the world. America's responsibility for this crisis is much, much bigger than its rank in the list of global emissions.", "They get the benefit of the research, but it’s a little bit reductionist to act like access to IP is the primary obstacle to rolling out massive changes to power infrastructure in the developing world.\n\nThe bigger issue is the resources and high-end industrial capacity that is needed to implement those massive infrastructural changes.", "> no one gives two fucks what you think", "Wait so you think a country that has minority religious populations grow and has actively worked to grow the zoroastrian population, a country where jews were never persecuted. A place where tribal religions exist, Christians have been there for over a 1000 years, hanafi and Shi'ite have unique versions. Is worse than Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the list goes on. I'd like to see percentage wise what is the growth of minorities in Muslim majority countries. How are the Ahmadis, Shi'ite, druze, yazidi, coptics, Malaysian folk religion practitioners, orthodox Christian followers doing in Islamic countries?", "I mean, they can do what they want, but ultimately it’s countries like India and China that will suffer the worst effects of climate change. Holding yourself hostage is rarely a winning move.", "That’s not what they’re saying at all. Prioritizing the critical material needs of your population does not mean you don’t care about climate change. It just means that their situation prevents them from prioritizing it as much as other countries might.", "My point isn't that they are prioritizing the critical material needs of their population.\n\nMy point is that they are using as an excuse something that is not a problem right now. India hasn't been a colony since shortly after WW2.", "Rather than edit my other comment, I’ll elaborate specifically to this video in this comment. \n\nArguing that India suffers from post colonialism is crazy. The United States could make that same argument! Yet, somehow it’s used as an example of a stronger power taking advantage of a lesser country. Please. Did China used to be a poor little colony of the United States?\n\nAre we ignoring all of India and China’s, uncontrolled population growth? A Chinese communist regime? Did China not become an economic powerhouse from its trade with the rest of the world? The U.S. isn’t China’s sole proprietor. \n\nBygone colonialism can’t be a sole excuse for your own countries problems. Most of the world gets a pass then. \n\nChina pollutes, India pollutes, the U.S. pollutes, England and Scotland pollute.\n\nWe don’t fix the problem with the globe we share by communicating like this.", "There is literally a Tibetan city in India of refugees from China. The Dali Llama has a royal estate guarded by Indian soldiers. At least pretend to get your propaganda straight.", "Do you honestly think that 60-70 years is enough for the effects of 150+ years of colonialism to disappear? \n\nIn any event, colonialism is just offered as an explanation for India’s current situation, and to help emphasize the hypocrisy of the western world getting mad at their impoverished former colonies for not making greater sacrifices. \n\nUltimately, it is India’s current material situation which is actually being used to justify their current approach.", "😂Good luck with that plan of action.", "Its not a bullshit argument. its a basic fact and must be repeated any time someone in a western country tries to shift the blame to people who pollute less than a half of what they do.", "I like how the responses here pretty much sum up one of the actual problems, which is everyone playing the blame game, whose fault this or that is and why this or that can't be done.\n\nAll of that is completely irrelevant and what these governments constantly resort to. It's time for REAL SOLUTIONS and what we do NOW to fix it. Simply arguing about who's fault this all while the car hurtles off the cliff so-to-speak is a fruitless endeavor, no matter what party/country is to blame.", "But there are specific countries that are more to blame for the current climate crisis. That’s a fact. First world, developed countries trashed the planet during their industrialization. \n\nTo pretend otherwise is intellectually dishonest.\n\nIt’s like setting a house on fire and expecting someone else to come put out the flames. When they point out that you set the fire, you are like “oh so you’re just playing the blame game huh?!!”", "Kalburgi angered the Lingayats a community that is known for being a bit extreme and the same extremists are fighting to not be considered Hindus.\n\nYou might find a few hindu swamis that spout hate. But compare all this against the amount of Islamic preachers who spout hate, the numbers are easily in the hundreds.\n\nI agree 2 attacks by possible Hindutva groups is terrible.\n\nCompare that to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks\n\nhttps://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/minority-report-christian-persecution-muslim-majority-countries/\n\nhttps://www.cato.org/commentary/problem-islamic-religious-persecution\n\nAnd let's not talk about treatment of apostates in any Islamic country.\n\nhttps://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/\n\nI also forgot search ghazwa al hind on YouTube, a ton of preachers are speaking excitedly about the day that Pagan India will be put in chains and forcefully converted or put to death. And then you have some nice peaceful preachers who say the prophecy is already completed as if you look at history we killed and converted enough of the Hindu Pagans and destroyed enough of their temples on order to appease there followers.", "Why shouldn’t the developed nations that created the problem allocate more resources to solving the problem? That seems fair to me.\n\nYou break it, you pay.", "Nuclear worked out great for Japan.", "Let’s be honest. The borders of countries don’t determine who is to blame for carbon emissions. Let’s use China as an example here. They emit greenhouse gases in the process of making goods for India and the opposite is true. \n\nHolding individual countries accountable is good, but blaming them is pointless and doesn’t accomplish any workable solution.", "> Wait, am I missing something here. USA, Canada and other Western countries have the highest per Capita greenhouse emissions. But it is on India which consumes less and produces less greenhouse gases to be more responsible.\n\nChina was mentioned in the video, and they have higher per capita CO2 emissions than the EU.\n\nAlso, we're planning for 2050. Of course we should take developing countries and their emissions into account.", "> Sorry but when 1 in 10 people don’t have access to running water, I’m not sure climate change is their most pressing issue.\n\nClimate change will become their most pressing issue when climate change results in more than 1 out of 10 people not having access to running water - that's the point.", "It did. Certainly Japan wouldnt have its golden age in the 70s-80s without it.", "The workable solution is that the developed nations that fucked over the planet should invest their own $$$ to transition the world to clean energy. \n\nExpecting developing nations to bear the burden of the developed world’s mistakes is unfair and likely won’t be very effective in the long run.", "2011 was less golden.", "Keep going, you’re doing great.", "Aren't all countries developing?", "I don't give fucks because I don't care.\n\nYou don't give fucks because you are retarded.\n\nWe are not the same.", "must be some solid iron\n\nmaybe try hitting again maybe your brain will restart?", "india and china should have embargos against them if they fossil fuel usage isn’t skydiving", "No dude India and the Vatican have the same obligation alright? Don't you shy away from this argument.\n\nPer capita? What's that", "That arguement is true.\n\nThe real reason is poverty though.\n\nAnd the arguement well we will keep destroying the planet because we didn't when you used to isn't reasonable \n\n\n\n\nClimate change is bound to fail because it depends on the western civilization to willingly become poorer by being equal with very poor countries and if that would happen then the west would be extremely unstable.\n\n\n\nDon't get me wrong, this man has fair points but the financial system we have is based on inequality and his fair arguement on equality will not be supported on financial terms, therefore we are bound to fail with this utopian approach.", "No less catastrophic than what a similar earthquake would have done to a major hydro dam also not designed to withstand it.", "It’s not because countries arent people in a neighborhood and it’s bad comparison.", "Are you suggesting India cut their military budget? That's just plain stupid. How about the developed world stop producing weapons?", "Yeah no shit.", "Yes, our country became powerful because of fossil fuels. But it needs to stop, and it has to be a global effort.\n\nWe can't just keep polluting out of a sense that things need to be fair.\n\nAll those arguments about how the people in these developing countries have to worry about now and industrialize to improve living conditions are precisely the same reasons we did it here in America. Except we didn't know what the costs would be.", "I feels like you either didn't watch the video or it flew way over your head.", "I get that world if far more complex than that. But it does feel like some historical injustice. If not, does that mean that any mighty country (in military sense) can ravage another one in this day, and not being resposib...oooh", "This comment section shows that this message won't filter through the western liberal bubble. We're doomed.", ">The climate does not care about per-capita emissions. \n\nI love how people say this as an excuse for wanting people in poor countries to remain in poverty. The smug elitism of the liberal mind knows no bounds.", "So the west is free to blame? Isn't that too easy, shifting all production to third world then point finger at them. \n\nI don't like China at all, but all of this sounds overly condescending. Climate change is still not top priority of many third world countries because they need to keep their countries secure and lift people out of poverty first. \n\nThe west can brag this or that about saving the planet, but they never support the third world with no string attached.", "That's a lot easier to say from an armchair than it is from a dirt floor when you're starving.", "Disappear up your own brown-hole.", "Using conspiracy theories and fake news to attack attack progressive activists and politicians is literally the type of shit that people like Alex Jones do.", "Imagine bezo's burning the equivalent of a million car tires a day to power his mega yacht telling you to eat only lentils and to donate 50% of your salary to avoid climate change because you're not doing enough.", "Aww, someone is mad his people got their ass kicked. Very convenient he didnt bring up the part before colonialism where the Indians were enslaving and exploiting other minorities on the subcontinent.", "I get his point, the west go drunk on oil, had it's fun now they want everybody EQUALLY to cut down. Taking said opportunity from other nations that haven't done it.\n\nIt sucks, it's \"Hypocritical\", it whatever you want it, but nevertheless it's still the right choice.\n\nYou don't get to pollute the planet for a couple more decades because you had a developement lag, like I'm sorry, that's not some right you have nor a privilege you should get.", "What a bunch of bollocks. Developing countries has the opportunity to the things right from the start. This kind of backwards mentality is what prevents many countries from actually doing something about climate change.", "Like the West solved theirs? Genius", "They are both large contributors, I never said they weren't. I only have a problem with Americans criticising China for their approach when China are doing a better job, and have had far less time. \n\nChina also don't have a century of historical emissions too.", "You're right. Government should force corporations to make products sustainably so that cheap products are not even available to poor people. You really can't trust poor people to choose between the environment and money. So you should remove the option all together.", "Saving the planet isn't hypocrisy. It's no longer a philosophical or geopolitical debate. We all need to shut the fuck up about these kinds of excuses. It's unfortunate that countries like China and India can't go back in time and reap the same rewards as others from fossil fuels and other environmentally damaging materials. But it is what it is. That's a lot of words to say it's unfortunate, not hypocrisy.\n\nTl;dr. Tough titty.", "And we’ve hit the end of your wit looks like, was a short ride.", "Okay, so why does the west do only the bare minimum in combating climate Change? There are initiatives, sure, but most just look like virtue signaling more than anything.", "They're really moreish", "Fair points. Of course, none of those developed countries had a BILLION citizens polluting the earth", "oh we hit the end of your intelligence and cognitive capability some time ago\n\nit wasn't even a ride\n\nit was like a step maybe?", ">Uyghurs are terrorists\n\nSource please. Because I have a hard time believing he'd make such a blanket statement about an entire population.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Chinese concentration camps are CIA propaganda\n\nYes, and he's not wrong. No please read my previous comment again because you're literally doing what I described there.", "> no one gives two fucks what you think", "China and India have contributed 12.7% and 3% of historical emissions respectively. That’s it. Not even 20% despite our massive historical populations, and current populations. It’s the west that has fucked up the planet, the climate, and overwhelmingly destroyed our chances of survival. It’s YOU guys that set the fire that’s spread over the whole world. It’s YOU guys who need to make extreme sacrifices to make up for the damages that YOU did.\n\nAnd one thing I can’t get enough of in these debates is when westerners talk about emissions coming from China and India they’ll put blame on the countries and the people, but when it comes to their own country’s emissions they put the blame on corporations.\n\nGotta love it, the hypocrisy knows no bounds.\n\nAnd don’t even try to bring up “WeLl yOuR cOuNtRy iS gOnNa HaVe iT wOrSe tHaN mIne” bullshit. At this point, the writing is on the wall. When the water wars begin between India, China, and Pakistan, we’ll all remember who’s fault this really is and you can bet your greedy asses we’re taking you with us.\n\nThank god we all have nukes.", "If the west doesn't want to help the global south with subsidies and assistance, then we have no right to complain when they use coal.\n\nIt fucking sucks. But are they just supposed to not have any electricity? Should they completely kneecap their economy even more by using energy solutions they cannot afford?\n\nWe destroyed the earth industrializing ourselves. But it brought us the wealth and infrastructure necessary that we have the luxury to switch to more expensive and greener energy solutions. We cannot expect the others to follow us when they do not have the wealth and infrastructure necessary to do so.", "If you LeapFrog technologies, you unfortunately also get to LeapFrog the problems too.", "🙄 big brain arguments right there", "India has emitted 3% of historical emissions, and despite that is still the 4th largest investor in renewable energy. We still have regions poorer than subsaharan Africa. We don’t have the resources to contribute much more.\n\nYou are a grade A moron.", "So does the developing world want the benefits that being a manufacturing hub without the responsibilty of doing so without destroying the world? Is that what he'll say when the temperature increases so much that large tracts of Rajasthan become unlivable? 'Well let me tell you about the British industrial revolution, it's their fault really, they were so condescending'* \nI knew all I need to know about this guy who described Red Clydeside as an 'uprising' that was 'crushed', that is hilarious.", "He's right. White western countries are pretty much cunts fucking everyone else up all through out history. But the simple cold hard truth is: The weak doesn't get to talk, they get trampled on PERIOD. China was weak during their imperial time and everybody fucked with them during the age of exploration. Now China learned their lesson and actively tried to fuck with everyone else. You can't just sit at the corner of your map and turtle it out. It doesn't work. You have to fuck someone else up, take advantage of them to advance your gains.\n\n\nSo who gives a shit about hypocrisy. That's how it work so suck it up and deal with it or we will deal with you. Get your shit together India or we are will gonna get fucked. Fair or not fair it has no bearing on anything.", "Given that most of our stuff is produced and comes from India and China, good luck with getting Western governments to agree to an embargo Lol.\n\nThis place is so detached from reality.", ">India then does this and we condescendingly chastise them for doing the same thing WE did.\n\nDid is the key part there. 'Why are you mad we have slaves, you had slaves once', it's a pretty weak argument.", "Slavery is different to coal usage.", "OK, but why after 200 years have those colonies still not invested their money into new developing energy and waste management resources?\n\nIt's an excuse. Stop making excuses to fail and doom the people around you because people who are dead and irrelevant did something bad to people who are dead and irrelevant.\n\nGrow up. Invest in waste management and clean energy. This isn't 200 years ago where other options don't exist.\n\nJust fucking buy solar panels and build hydropower. Like 70% of all humans live near a river or coastline.", "china is not a developing country", "how about one?", "The real colonial mindset is the people who still live with the absolute belief that all their short-comings are somehow due to other people from long ago. 'You left us with this coal burden' 'we kicked you out' 'we aren't in this together' 'what are you going to do about our starving kids?' \n\nThe planet is dying, developing countries don't manufacture out of the kindness of their hearts, they are paid for it - they are just being asked to do it without poisoning our world. Ultimately, they won't listen. The west must take advantage of automation and start green manufacturing. So a million Indians die a year from smog, let's not condescent. ugh.", "Yeah, cos Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi was progress /s", "\n\nMoney, get away\nYou get a good job with good pay and you're okay\nMoney, it's a gas\nGrab that cash with both hands and make a stash…", ">I tell them cutting down trees is not good for the environment without offering a feasible alternative\n\nYou can't think of one energy source outside coal?", "India and China are “developing countries”. Yea ok", "Because they're polluting far more than we ever did, and refuse to get off a technology 100 years old.", "I don't know Indian politics, but that just sounds like everywhere.\n\nPoliticians blaming the other side and focusing on culture war bullshit. While quietly (and sometimes not so quietly) enacting policies that enrich themselves and their benefactors.", "The reason why the blame game is valid in this situation is that there’s a massive wealth disparity between countries. The gap is insurmountable and can’t be brushed over or ignored.", "Emphasis on feasible", "Nuclear holocaust to own the libs. Gotta love it.", "But it is related. \n\nNo matter how much you want to plug your ears and ignore it, colonialism has a massive and long lasting effect on the material conditions of a country. To say otherwise is insanely ignorant.\n\nEspecially since said colonialism ended less than 80 years ago.", "What a horrible lie you told: “single largest carbon emitter in human history” is none other than the US. https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-\n\nhttps://theconversation.com/amp/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than-as-many-as-140-countries-shrinking-this-war-machine-is-a-must-119269", "Does anyone have a video demonstration? Need help on technique cause it's just not happening.", "Sweet! I love getting something for nothing. As a Celt I'm going to need large lump sum payments from Rome, English, and the Vikings. Oh and throw the Ottomon empire in there for their massive slave trade.", "Unironically yes. We’re not going to let you have your cake and eat it too.\n\nI’m actually very disappointed India, Pakistan, and China aren’t brandishing their nukes. I think we could get a lot more done wrt CO2 emissions if we took a more North Korean-esque approach to getting the resources and technology that’s required for the massive shifts that we need. Not just on behalf for themselves, but for Africa, SEA, and South-America too.", "You do realize they just ended a period of 40 years of industrialization, like last year??", "Oh it's feasible. Who has the world's 3rd largest military?", "That's all true but not what they are talking about here. Plus no need to be a fuck about it. You're with people who are in your side. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite you're face.", "Everyone needs to make sacrifices to stop climate change. It won't work if only the developed world makes the changes needed.", "That the UK made similar decisions in the past before we understood the greenhouse effect has no bearing on whether it is moral for India to make those decisions today.\n\n\nIf India wants to prioritise economic development at the expense of the environment then they can do so. They don't even have to work all that hard to justify it- people need to work, people need consumer goods, people need sanitation.\n\nHowever justifying it by saying \"well other people started it\" is insane. The UK has been massively subsidising Indian development since 1947. It is not hypocritical to ask that India maybe make more of an effort to take advantage of some of the technological advances in that time", "moreish, unless you’re running with the developed developing nations thing with moors", "Oversimplification: China has industrialized at the cost of producing goods for the West—western funds extracting labor from China for profit, but China has no where near the carbon debt of the US, was imperialized for centuries, has 3 times the people of the US, created a bigger economy than the US, has made unparalleled green investments, gives infrastructure loans to the third world on better terms than the IMF, is not ruled by billionaires and property owners, and STILL beats the US in emissions per capital and historically. \n\nVijay’s point that there is no way the US has a right to criticize China when the US isn’t even able to stand on its own legs and produce their own goods is supported by any skim dive into reality.", "Worse than ‘developed far later’ - the point OP speaker was making was that they were developed, then torn down and to this day not permitted by continuing colonialism to stand back up.", "Certainly India has more to do. Every country other than Ecuador has more to do. But India has done FAR more than Western countries, has gone far further down the path to zero emissions, so should not be castigated for the last bit of emissions it is running down. That’s just deflection by Western politicians, or judgement for “too many Indians having too many Indian babies”, which is wrong and maybe a bit racist.", "this is way too based for many of the brainlets in this sub", "Hahaha.\n\nSo holding places like India and China to task for \"climate change\" is \"colonialism.\"\n\nSo which talking point will win? \n\n\"Climate change\" bad....OR....\"colonialism\" bad?\n\nHe sure knows how to play his cards. \n\nThis is how we know the climate change battle will just be a Western fetish of never ending self deprecation. India and China will just do what they want....laughing as we only hamstring ourselves over our fetish (and there is no change in \"climate change\").", "Well that’s just not true at all, either of those claims.", "\"CoLon1aLism!\"\n\n\"White supremacy!\"\n\nSee how these smart dudes will play this?", ">However justifying it by saying \"well other people started it\" is insane. \n\nThat's not what he's saying at all. That's just how your bias is painting it.\n\nThey're justifying it because it's what they can afford. It's not about \"economic development\" it's about getting stable electricity to as much of their population as possible.\n\nThe UK has the luxury to make better decisions than India and the Global South. They gained this luxury by destroying the planet with pollution and colonizing half the world.\n\nNow the UK wants the rest of the world to change. But not only do they not have the hundreds of years of wealth and power, they also are often the countries that the UK ravaged to gain that wealth and power.\n\nSo the UK and the other members of the global north can either pay up or shut up.", "China dumps about 10.5 millions tons of CO2. Find me a point in history where we dumped more.\n\nCoal was first used for power in 1860s.", "I agree with the problematic history of India but he is conflating things that happened in the past with the people here now. Noone alive today had a hand in slavery or colonial British India. To move forward as a planet and tackle emissions countries like India with vast populations must do better.", "> how is it idiotic to point out to your dumb ass that there's no way you are putting a \"blockus\" on china\n\nUuh... I pointed that out first. They skip reading in pre-K nowadays or something? You aren't aware other people can comment on threads, are you?", "So essentially you're admitting that you're stewing in anger about the atrocities committed by Western civilizations (which no one is denying) and quite literally still resorting to the blame game?\n\nAgain, whether you're talking about American Capitalism, European colonialism, economic greed, historic atrocities or a myriad of horrors that Western culture has spread its slimey fingers across the world and creating a lot of the problems it says it needs solving, that may make these countries hypocrites and whatever names you want to call them, again, the point is that it's still still irrelevant. If Timmy and Johnny are playing in a living room and Timmy knocks over an oil lamp which cases the entire room to start erupting into flames while they run around screaming, you're saying that it's first important to establish that it's not Johnny's fault, Timmy is to blame for all of it and it's important that their brothers and sisters, mommy, daddy and grandpa all know that it's entirely Timmy's fault. \n\nNo, the room is literally on fire and both children, including their family are going to be consumed in flames. This is an oversimplified analogy, but you get the idea.", "That's an acknowledgment and yet, still completely irrelevant. Climate change is a global issues. You can start to argue on who bears more responsibility because of which countries have more ability and power to do so, but whether it be a 1% contribution or 90%, while everyone is pointing fingers and playing the blame game, the world literally burns.", "that was a original comment useless mumbling loser\n\n\"i pOiNtEd tHaT oUt fIrSt\" 🤡🤡🤡", "If there is no space in this world for justice, then it should burn.", "Except that nobody alive today started the fires.", "Never was it said in the video that the changes required to fix the climate are western fantasy.. Where are you from? It's impossible for you to be so out of touch unless you're from a rich western nation. India has millions of people on a poverty level incomprehensible for anyone in a developed nation and your whole argument is the planet doesn't care we should all do our part.\n\nMaybe you're the one that doesn't care about reality. Maybe you should visit India and tell people living in the dirt there how you bought a more energy efficient coffee machine.", "India's smog and air pollution have very little to do with their electric infrastructure. It's crop burning.", "Let me guess. Deflect criticism of India and China's useage of fossil fuels, and their general tendency towards LREG emissions policies under the straw man that since more developed countries used to use old technology while they were developing it's only fair that currently developing countries get to use the same technology.", "It's incredibly naive and small minded to think that the effects of generations of oppressive pillaging of a countries natural resources and labor doesn't reverberate for generations after the act.", "I'm neither Chinese nor Indian, i'm Brazilian...\n\nBut the lack of understanding about long-term impacts of colonialism in this thread is jaw-dropping. What in the hell... Where are the history teachers in the so called first world?\n\nI'm not even exactly a patriot... But threads like these make me appreciate being raised in an ex-colony, where we can study and see from close range how fucked up our countries got after centuries of colonization. Because in the northern hemisphere, seems like colonization is being seen and taught just as a regular war or invasion. Crazy stuff.", "You're literally describing all of human history. These are not new problems, they've always have and always will exist as long as humans are around. So we can either look back and lament all the bad things people do. Or... stop making excuses and start trying to fix things with the climate and start with the biggest sources of pollution.", ">Just fucking buy solar panels and build hydropower. \n\n\"Stop being Poor!\"", "How is it valid at all? we are risking the future stability of our entire planet to let developing countries continue to pollute tremendous amounts simply because developed countries did it first and it's not fair? \n\nThis is absolutely retarded, we are on the knife's edge of plunging millions, potentially billions, of people into displacement and starvation. This is no time to be playing the blame game, we need to just focus on reducing Co2 emissions. The countries emitting the most Co2 have the biggest responsibility right now, it's that simple.\n\nThe top 3 being China, US, India in that order. The Indian government basically ruined the COP26 summit and now they are trotting out talking heads to try and deflect responsibility and to not cause any disruption to their economy.", "Most of that pollution comes from producing goods for the west..", "Agreed. The neo-liberal cognitive dissonance is the real issue here.", "The wealth gap is irrelevant?\n\nOk, let me make this as simple as possible. It costs MONEY to make the switch from coal to renewables. Some countries are RICH and some countries are POOR. Rich countries can afford to make the switch since they have money, poor countries can’t since they can’t afford it. What’s being demanded for by rich countries to poorer ones is impossible.\n\nAlso, as I wrote in another comment, China and India have only produced 12.7% and 3% of historical emissions. So after the west initially started the fire in their own homes, fanned the flames for decades and then and spread it to ours, we’re going to be a little fucking annoyed when the same assholes say “guys let’s not point fingers! :(“. You did this, own up to it.", "Considering their population far exceeds ours, I doubt there is a large statistical merit to that.\n\n but dispite more sustainable energy sources being available, they choose to continue to build more and more coal power plants. They are not reducing, they are further expanding.", "I don't see any finger pointing coming from the west. Probably because there's no one else to point to without looking completely ridiculous.", "Seems to be talking less about blame and more about agency. \n\n\nRicher countries consume disproportionate amount of resources and a big part of that is their impact on the third world, ie bankrolling polluting factories in the third world where the water can be contaminated w/o legal recourse, natural flora and fauna are wiped out for monoculture/exportation. \n\n\nWhen it comes to minding their carbon footprint, do I expect the same of Monsanto and some tribesman in a shack ? This isnt an argument that the third world should pollute, just that they have many more constraints on their ability to 'go green', many of which are enforced by the developed countries who publicly shame them.", "What a nice solution. Also, what would you say the equivalent of justice is? America and Europe footing the entire bill with a really profound apology that's televised?", "[Here you go](https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2). Now this data does not include emissions embedded in trade, JUST emissions within the territory.\n\nAs far as we ever did, up to 2017:\n\nUS: 399 billion tonnes CO2\n\nEU-28: 353 billion tonnes CO2\n\nChina: 200 billion tonnes\n\nIndia: 48 billion tonnes.\n\nAs far as current emissions, in 2017:\n\nUS: 25.89% of emissions\n\nEU-27: 18.17%\n\nChina: 13.17%\n\nIndia: barely registering at 3.02%.\n\nNow, per capita:\n\nUS: 16.02 tonnes per capita\n\nChina: 6.98 tonnes\n\nIndia: 1.82 tonnes.\n\nWe’re putting out more emissions RIGHT NOW.\n\nStop listening to deflecting politicians in your own country and start holding them to account. Rich Western countries have the ability to change over to renewables RIGHT NOW, and should just because our coal fired plants have passed use by date anyway.", "\"mistakes other countries did in the past\". Nah pretty sure the mistakes are still happening today, so it does come off as hypocritical.", "What if that development lag came from being plundered?", "That's cumulative... At no point in history have we ever come relatively close to what they are producing now. In fact it's about half.", "That analogy is* oversimplified. Better is Timmy also has all of the firefighting equipment (wealth) yet is asking everyone to help put it out.", "psssst \n\nI think he means it would be a good thing if a whole lot of Chinese and Indians died.", "I both literally acknowledged that certain countries have more ability to do so (MONEY) and while one or certain countries bear more responsibility/blame that it is still irrelevant to the task at hand. Obviously America/Europe/The West are to blame a number of ways, but okay, now what? Also, your addendum to the analogy isn't quite entirely accurate since the fire doesn't have a single source point and since climate change is a global issues, we all live under the same roof. \nYou seem to think that I am saying the West doesn't bear more responsibility or that I'm saying to completely ignore that fact. I am saying it is completely irrelevant to the real problem, which is this constant blame game that you're still dragging on. it solves nothing.", "True. But rich countries have the infrastructure and resources to deal with climate change far better than poor ones. Air conditioning, levees, pumping stations, reliable electrical grids, irrigation, hydroponics, etc. \n\nIt's not FAIR, but millionaires in western cities will be the last to feel the pains of global climate change.", "No one is asking any developed country to forget the exploitation and suffering they have endured, but we are asking them to help stop fucking up the entire planet. That means an economic hit and no leader wants to be the one to take it. \n\nDo you have any idea how bad conditions would get in all these developing countries if we do not get on top of this? it will be misery and suffering on a scale never seen before and will make the exploitation by developed countries look like a walk in the park. \n\nWe all need to make sacrifices to avoid complete, global catastrophe and when the 3rd biggest polluter in the world throws up their hands like a child and says they won't do anything because it's not fair other countries got to pollute in the past or that other countries exploited their resources...well then we're basically going to guarantee catastrophe for everyone.", "What an asshole. He saw the opportunity of the spotlight and he took it. Countries like India and China with a huge poor population are the ones who will suffer the most with climate change. At the end we all in earth are fucked. Absolutely fucked. The past history is fucking irrelevant, we are talking here of survival and how dare you give me a history lesson? I know the fucking history. History is not a fucking secret that you only know.", "Now you’re just not reading. I put the answer in bold, mate", ">We can compare each country’s total contribution to global emissions by looking at cumulative CO2. \n\nWhat part of up to 2017 doesn't mean cumulative to you?", "Every single country in the global south knows the existential threat that is facing them. We all WANT to switch to renewables, but can’t afford to. The west has the resources and tech to make the switch, so give them to us. India, at its current development level, can’t afford to do what it needs to do. So either share the resources, or shut the fuck up and let India continue to develop and afford at least a generation or 2 of her people a modest life..", "Oh my god, you do not get it. The problem is that there are impossible expectations being placed on poor countries. Us TELLING you that what you’re asking is impossible isn’t just playing a blame game.", "Impossible expectations are completely separate subject from my point which is that you are quite literally just finger pointing and yelling \"Hypocrites!\" or \"No, this is your fault!\", \"how dare you!\", which even if based on historical fact, do not change whatsoever the fact that the entire world still needs to address the issue and it will not be solved from a single nation, regardless of \"who started it\". You cannot travel back in time and take back the atrocities committed by Western civilization. We can all shame the U.S/Europe for their crimes, we can even establish that we/they are the primary party who bears the primary responsibility. No one is denying any of this and no one is even arguing your point whatsoever. My entire point is that while we sit here and quite literally play the blame game, what we are currently doing, the planet still burns. It does not care.", "And yet, even with your new addendum my point still applies. What Timmy is asking is completely irrelevant to the actual problem. The room is fucking on fire. Johnny is going to have to deal with the problem as well, regardless whether Timmy has the firefighting equipment and is being a selfish, unrealistic prick. India is going to have to address climate change one way or another, regardless or not it is fighting a battle it did not create or if the US/Europe is the one to primarily blame. We've established Timmy is a hypocritical prick. It does not matter.", ">The workable solution is that the developed nations that fucked over the planet should invest their own $$$ to transition the world to clean energy. \n\nIf we look at India, Britain & Coal as discussed in the video, is that the fault of the British government or the british people? Or is it not the work of The East India Company? \n\nAs the EIC was a private company, that money will not have been wholey absorbed by the government, it likely dodged tax too. \n\nFor the sum that was received by the government, to suggest that money still exists ~250 years later is a nice idea considering the British gov is -£2224 billion in debt.", "Basically India et al want the West to pay for green energy initiatives.", "No, it’s not. It is the exact same subject. You’re trying to deflect off of it by calling it finger pointing.\n\nIt doesn’t take a genius to know that coal is bad, and global warming is bad, and that renewables are good. We have addressed the issue, we know the solution, we can’t afford it. End of story.", "China and India combined create 38% of the world's greenhouse emissions, followed quickly by Russia, Japan, Indonesia and and many other eastern countries that rank relatively high on the list.\n\nSaying that it is entirely the fault of the U.S or Europe (which really Germany is even on the high ranking list) is quite literally playing the blame game since in in total they contribute somewhere around 20%. It's going back into history and saying that because of economic and capitalist exploits are what caused this. And again, while you can point to many of the specific companies that are owned by certain countries and what we've done to certain countries has been a huge factor, it's still irrelevant to the problem at hand. Again, that's like going to the doctor and wanting to spend all you're time suing the tobacco companies that caused the cancer you now have, while the doctor reminds you that you still need to fix the problem and go through chemotherapy. \n\nWe also can't pretend that India and any eastern countries are completely innocent in any of climate change or they've only been forced to.", "People don't buy infrastructure. Governments do, dimwit. The Indian government is *not* poor.", "It's incredibly naive and small-minded to assume that the national government of India's modern energy and waste policy has *absolutely fucking anything to do* with events that occurred over 100 years ago.\n\nBut whatever you say, government shill.", "What? 2017 was the last year with easy to reach data for most of the relevant types of data. I can get to 2020 if you’d like (not 2021 because the year isn’t over), but do you think China pumped out more than its total emissions prior to 2017 in four years?\n\nI don’t want to be rude, but man just take a seat and stop talking shit.", "Honestly, I didn't get a lot out of that.\n\nHe made a few good points, outsourcing and famines, etc. But he kept sandwiching them thick with nonsense emotional arguments. \"It's our money!\" come on, like that hasn't applied to every single country that's been conquered or claimed throughout history, India isn't special for being more recent.", ">The second, better option would be reparations of stolen profits\n\nOh sweet! China and Eastern Europe will be looking forward to the reparations they'll get from Mongolia!", "That's quite literally what this is. You keep reiterating the point that the U.S/Europe/Western civilization is primarily to blame and bears more responsibility. The planet does not give one flying fuck who started the fire.\n\nNot to mention that China, India and several eastern countries emit more of the CO2 emissions in terms of percentages every year (increasingly) than the U.S or Europe which combined contribute around 20%. this is entirely about blaming the U.S for being the cause of eastern/non western emission rates. India, China and the rest of the world, are going to have to solve climate change issues regardless. If you want to say that the U.S has to foot the bill, that's fine. But talk about that solution rather than just various wasy of reiterating \"who started it\".", "No idea, not for me to decide. But it is clear from your statement that you believe an injustice was done, but the reparations are not viable to implement. And my follow up was that, if we have committed such heinous crimes but paying for them is not politically viable then perhaps we deserve what is coming. \n\nAt the end of the day, our current socio economic structure is fueled by economic exploitation of the environment and other humans. Now first world countries want everyone to stop exploiting the environment because they realize it will negatively affect them BUT, they also want to maintain the power balance in the world as is and keep the economic exploitation of other countries as is.\n\nWhy? Because the quality of life that is enjoyed by first world countries is not sustainable. If every country tries to achieve that level of luxury the world will break, so they need the poorer countries to stay poor and eke out an existence so they can maintain their status quo.\n\nFuck that, let it all burn.", "\"If your solution to \"what about the presently starving masses in underdeveloped countries?\" is \"let them be sacrificed for the greater good\", you are either a teenager who is still in the I'm-so-hyper-rational-I-pity-these-emotional-fools stage of life, or you're a fucking moron. But I don't think you even have the conception of how immediate and large a problem it is.\n\nYou think \"let bygones be bygones\" is a valid answer. It is not....\"\n\nWhere in any of my response was literally any of this suggested? You are going off on even more completely random, irrelevant tangents now.", "India gets to benefit from literally billions spent in the West on renewables research and development. They've been independent for almost 100 years now, it's on nobody but them that they haven't switched from their dependence on coal in that time.\n\nAnd honestly, if you want to talk about poverty and desperation in India, I'd suggest one of the major causes of that problem is a whooooole lot closer to Vijay Prasad's camp than he'd like to admit. Let's not forget which people pushed through the decisions that made India tie itself to the Soviet Union and then suffered in their collapse.", "\"...but the reparations are not viable to implement. \"\n\nNo. at no point did I make any anything claim or belief that resembles this in any way, shape or form. You are creating a strawman argument.\n\n\" And my follow up was that, if we have committed such heinous crimes but paying for them is not politically viable then perhaps we deserve what is coming.\"\n\nAgain, never said that America or Europe do not owe certain debts or argue in one way or another if they should not pay for their crimes (although you should clarify what you mean by this or what that constitutes). You think i am taking an oppositional side when I am stating the entire mode of thinking is the problem. Which is what we are now still resorting to.\n\n\"Fuck that, let it all burn.\"\n\nFinally, the solution.", "Interesting article: \n\nChina’s dramatic economic growth in the 21st century has made it not only the second largest economy in the world but also a powerhouse in the global energy system. Now, as the top energy consumer and the biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, China is being closely watched and judged as its impact on energy markets and climate grows more profound. Looking forward, many issues are expected to shape the evolution of China’s energy sector, not least of which is its development status.\n\nWhile China’s economic might makes it a superpower alongside the United States, it still faces many of the major challenges of a typical developing country, such as widespread energy poverty, including 400 million people without access to clean cooking, significant air pollution, and dependence on increasing energy use to fuel future economic growth. Its modest income per capita qualifies it as a middle-income developing country.\n\nEvaluating China’s development status is not just an academic exercise. How China views itself and its challenges and how the international community classifies it carry real-world consequences that can significantly impact how the country manages its energy needs going forward, what fuels it uses, how it interacts with energy and other partners, and the level of its contributions and commitment to climate change mitigation and adaptation efforts worldwide. Understanding the nature and implications of China’s development situation can help in designing energy policies and fostering an international framework that better promote sustainable growth both within the country and globally.\n\nThis paper examines how the usual criteria employed by international organizations to determine a country’s development standing have become increasingly difficult to apply to China, given the dramatic changes it has undergone over the past several decades, notably from an energy perspective. The paper finds that China combines significant characteristics of both developing and developed countries and examines the energy and environmental implications of this hybrid status. The following is a summary of the main findings:\n\nChina is increasingly using its massive economic resources to further its energy interests internationally in both developing and developed countries through foreign assistance, overseas investments, trading relationships, and diplomatic efforts. Its development history and characteristics also give it a standing with the community of developing countries that the United States and other advanced economies lack. By fusing developing/developed country attributes with major global clout, China is unique: a hybrid superpower.\nUnlike advanced economies, China’s energy requirements will continue to rise substantially going forward as the government seeks to sustain robust economic growth and eradicate poverty, requiring it to secure unprecedented amounts of energy. China’s influence over global energy issues similarly will grow, with its energy, technological, and policy choices shaping product design, capital flows, trade, and emissions worldwide.\nChina will face increasing international pressure to upgrade its climate ambitions, notwithstanding any development constraints. In addition, China’s own economic achievements and future prosperity are threatened by the physical and economic damage potentially wrought by climate change. Stronger climate actions by China would promote sustainable development domestically and internationally.\nAgainst the current backdrop of economic and energy security anxieties (aggravated by factors such as the prolonged U.S.-China trade war and the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic), it is uncertain when the Chinese government will begin to prioritize the low-carbon transition. When it does, China’s economic strength, technological sophistication, and growing influence give it the capacity to take dramatic climate actions and to lead other countries, particularly developing ones, down a low-carbon pathway.\nWhile China has succeeded in its transformation from a low-income country into a hybrid superpower, its prospective journey from middle-income status to that of an advanced economy may take many years if not decades to navigate, with vast uncertainties and unforeseen obstacles (as exemplified by the COVID-19 pandemic). The energy choices China makes in this long journey will shape not only its own development but also the global energy and climate landscapes.\n\nhttps://www.energypolicy.columbia.edu/research/report/china-still-developing-country-and-why-it-matters-energy-and-climate", "ah, you're an insane person. goodbye.", "Asking America and Europe to foot the bill won’t work unless there’s a moral and logical reason for them to do so. Historical emissions MUST be brought up. Wealth disparity MUST be brought up. That’s why India and China are doing what they’re doing at these types of conferences.", "Is it Bhutan? Lesotho? Nepal?\n\nUganda? Malawi? Kenya?\n\nThe last 3 aren't 100% renewable but are pretty high up there.\n\nIs it Scotland? Although don't know if that counts since they're part of the UK.", "Not a great argument, imo. He could talk about the pressure western companies place on developing nations and what resources they have easy access to and knowledge of. He could talk about systemic Issues within India that extend to infrastructural problems well beyond power generation. Instead, everybody else got a chance to do it, so why don't we? It's first grade, Spongebob.", "The hypocrisy that ANYONE would not understand how the earth got to be what it is today.. or why reptiles grew so massive millions of years ago.. or how Ice ages come and go.. or glacier MELTED and carved the face of the entire planet.. to only be alive now and hear politicians tell all humans.. “we need everyone last dollar to make the planet stop doing what it’s done for BILLIONS of years!”.. Indoctrination is a bit@h isn’t it!!??", "Yeah I’m disappointed that all the top comments are attacking points he made and acting like everything he said is bullshit. Wow. People are certainly lacking perspective.", "maybe he just disagrees with the video? just because an impassioned person makes an eloquent speech, doesn't make him right or even relevant. \n\nI heard a lot of \"we aren't going to change and its your fault\" attitude. and its not helpful to themselves. \n\nwhen climate change stops crops from growing you think its going to be the colonials that starve? its going to be places like China and India who are going to starve. the small amount of food is going to go to the rich... it always does. \n\nhe is correct about one thing though, it's not fair. it's very not fair for places like India and China. and years of colonialism has made it not fair for places like India for a very long time.", ">and China\n\nDeveloping country with the second largest economy in the world? \n\n\nHow does that definition work?", ">shut the fuck up and let India continue to develop and afford at least a generation or 2 of her people a modest life..\n\nSo because it's too expensive, and would reduce profits by too much of a margin we should just not try to do anything about it so it can be our children's problem?\n\nFor a start - there won't be 2 generations who have a better standard of living if the biggest polluters continue increasing emissions. We will suffer the consequences in our lifetime. This is about reducing severity for our children and those who come after.\n\nSecondly, you're an incredibly selfish and short sighted individual if you think its fine to say 'we don't want to make any changes because our economy will suffer so the west should just pay it for us'. Everyone has to make sacrifices now, not just the developing countries. The west is struggling with this too which is obvious because the US is the second biggest polluter in front of India. \n\nEveryone has to make the changes as fast as possible, no one can do it for anyone else, but assistance can and should absolutely be provided. \n\nAny country that just waves their hand and says they shouldn't have to make any sacrifices because they're still developing or it would hurt their economy is despicable and so is your attitude to be honest.", "White people have breeded like rats even killing natives.", "Or you mean one Indian historian at a conference bringing this up because it's quite literally what he studies and is using that knowledge to play the blame game while the country (India) continues to focus on sustainability and is at his very moment spending billions on sustainable energy, more than any other economy to date. Furthermore, India has also literally received billions and billions of dollars in aid and there are quite literally trillions of dollars in U.S investments into renewable energy markets. Pretending that it's as simple as the U.S/Europe saying \"Sorry for the shit we've done in the past and the colonialism, ;let's cut you a check...\" is naïve and just as ingenuous to say that India bears no responsibility and can simply point a finger.", "It's the developing nations who will feel the brunt of climate change and the displacement due to famine. They need to weigh that against their desire to use fossil fuels. We don't have the luxury of letting developing countries play catch up.\n\nIs it hypocritical of developed nations to make these expectations? Yes. Does that matter? No.", "If they like smoking and shidding in the street so much they shouldn't cry for lung cancer or biblical floods", "Fuck him. Sell me an extended car warranty or GET FUCKED.", "TheRAbbi74, I have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty", "There is a whole (heh) section on pornhub devoted to this.", "The $45 trillion estimate is a meme and it's hard to take anyone seriously when it gets referenced. If I recall correctly, the \"researchers\" applied an arbitrary annual 5% inflation to their estimated figure which is just ridiculous. If you were to go back to the medieval age, you could easily use the exact same logic for a single coin stolen from the Vikings and make the case that Denmark or whoever, owes trillions upon trillions to England.", "Is China really considered a developing nation anymore?", "Ummm I mean factually yes, ethically no. \n\nPeople are only responsible for consequences they KNOWINGLY cause. So what happened historically is kind of irrelevant. Even if the west caused 99% of emissions historically, that wouldn't change the fact that countries that allow great numbers of emissions NOW are acting wrongly. And it wouldn't change the fact that the people who acted in the past are not the same people alive today. It's not hypocritical if it's literally different people doing the talking. Or for that matter even if it is the same people with a renewed understanding of the consequences.\n\nIt might seem unfair that certain nations got to benefit from pollution in a way that other nations now can't, but in reality that's just an unfortunate side effect that we have to live with if we are interested in recognising basic ethics.\n\nThat all said, by no means do I intend to imply that the west is now squeaky clean. It absolutely shares blame, not least in so far as the \"outsourcing\" of emissions is concerned. The bottom line is that we have to stop flinging shit at each other, recognise that we are all the same flawed human beings in different circumstances. The reality is that we are all probably going to lose out (at least temporarily) without the convenience of fossil fuels, and maybe this is just something we are going to have to accept as part and parcel of solving the climate crisis.\n\nI'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one - I haven't checked the numbers but it doesn't change the rest of my argument anyway", "we have crime problems too, Fortunately its not just 1 dude running around fixing 1 problem at a time. \n\nthe old \"can't spend money on this until this other problem is fully solved (and it never will be)\" is a ridiculous argument.", "I remember when I was broke I went out with friends for dinner. I ordered the cheapest thing on the menu and my friends ordered food, cocktails and dessert. They were really having a good time. \n\nWhen the bill arrived they decided to distribute it equally. It really sucked. \n\nUnfortunately, some people will not understand how infuriating it is to be in this situation.", "you're making it very difficult to do the \"but america is worse so we shouldn't have too\" argument. \n\nIt would be more conductive to his argument if you made yourself an easier target. \n\nits very selfish of you to be using a reasoned stance in an argument like this, you should be ashamed! /s", "This is dumb as fuck. Why do you deserve access to first world amenities like paved roads, higher standards of living, AC etc and these people don’t? Because of the country you happened to be born in? If you are talking like this your carbon footprint better be lower than the average Indian or Chinese person. I’d bet my left nut it ain’t tho", ">Wait, am I missing something here. \n \nYes. The Earth doesn't care about \"per capita\", it cares about the absolute amount of pollution that exists. \n \nYou could for example have a country made out of a billion people that makes the most of the world's pollution, but per capita it seems low. That country is still the source of most of the pollution on the planet. \n \n\"Per capita\" is just a nice way of making it seem like a fuckton of pollution is not a big deal because a smaller country would make more if they were the same size. It is still a fuckton of pollution no matter how you divide the absolute amount.", ">I agree, every country needs to get off fossil fuel right now \n \n...with what magic? It isn't that easy. Trucks, planes and ships still need to move and batteries can't do the leg work.", "Take your head out of your ass, this is not about protecting some bottom line or protecting the wealth of the upper class, or even protecting the economy as a whole. You are so incredibly fucking naive and smug in your stunted understanding with how the rest of the world works and lives I’m wondering if you’ve ever even stepped a foot outside your house. India has abysmal electricity, water, plumbing, infrastructure, nutrition. It is behind in almost every metric. In order to develop, it needs to consume energy, and the cheapest and fastest way to do that is to use what it currently has available. Telling India to “make sacrifices” as you put it, in order to reach sustainable CO2 emissions will lead to immediate, and more abject poverty and destruction to their livelihoods and communities. The west has immense excess and a much greater capacity to sacrifice.\n\nAlso, India is already the 4th biggest investor in renewable energy with China being first. We are pulling our weight, and then some, for how developed we are. But that is CLEARLY NOT enough. This is why your anger should be directed towards western governments, who become mute when asked to share resources.", "A generation of modest life and then a generation of chaos. India is one of the places that will be hit hardest by climate change.\n\nBesides, all of western civilisation had about 500 million people in the 1800’s. India alone has more than double that, and China has even more, not to mention Africa and South East Asia.\n\nThe rest of the world can not industrialise the same way Europe did, it’s not feasible. Whether or not it’s fair is irrelevant. Doing so would more than double emissions as is. \n\nEvery nation needs to spend a large part of its budget on combating climate change, internally and externally.", "Is China considered a developing nation?", "You can't rely on private enterprises to fix the world's problems. They will only do the minimum to 'purchase' the good will of their customers. It would be like relying on corporations to build roads and infrastructure out of the kindness of their heart. Or fight for civil rights. Or provide Healthcare (lol/sob). Charity is counter to their nature. \n\nThat's not a flaw of business, it is a feature. It's a serious policy flaw to expect it, because logically it makes no sense. And deciding not to pursue public policy options, appealing to the better nature of businesses - that do not have human emotions, or children, or need to breath clean air - is a societal failure. It just does not work.\n\nSystemic problems require systemic solutions. Only public policy with the force of law and the ability to incentivize positive action and punish negative action has any hope of making headway.", "Fuck Reddit and dumb racist americans, I'm so tired of this site", "Anthropogenic climate change is something we’ve known about for a LONG time. Maybe not mid 19th century, but by the 20th century absolutely, so yes, western governments are unequivocally responsibility for the future’s climate disaster. If we want to talk about ethics, then sure, it is unethical to develop in the same way the west has, but it’s also unethical, far more so I’d say, for the west to hold fast on their resources and technology.", "Holy shit you're a moron", "it's funny how reddit expects poor people to die to save the planet and yet no one can tell them to aet one less burger a year to achieve the same. pure reddit moment in this thread lol", "The only, and I mean only, equitable way forward is for the developed world to enter a period of exterme austerity so that they can run net negative. Anything else is practically begging for war in the decade to come.", "There is a relatively organized attempt to control the narrative to not have this come up, so it's not surprising.\n\nAnd it's not just about current emissions - if you look at the atmosphere as a credit card, the developed world basically ran it up near it's limit and now is telling everyone else to hold off on any purchases because there's still a few more things they'd really like to have", "The first point is moot - I’m talking about single entities, not countries\n\nThe second one is a deeply flawed report for one, but also doesn’t change my point! The Chinese state coal monopoly still emits orders of magnitude more than the US. Right now China has enough coal plants under construction to make China the #1 emitter as a country in history", "The analogy works even better when you look at it like a credit card. The west ran it up almost to it's limit, and is now telling everyone else they better hold off making any purchases, but has no idea how to pay it down, and still has more things they want to buy themselves.", "This is literally fascism", "That's not what it's about. What needs to happen is the developed world has to run net negative for decades, so that other countries can have the buffer for emissions to build out their infrastructure. A lot of stuff that will be needed has emissions upfront and we don't even have the budget left to do that.", "It’s better then despair and then more despair. And yes, you’re right. We can’t afford India and China + ROTW to industrialize with fossil fuels, that’s where the west can pick up the slack, take responsibility and make sacrifices for the good of the world, and we’ll have a shot at survival. If not, then as I said shut the fuck up, and we’ll have our short time with a modest life. Maybe we’ll get lucky and some aliens will save us.", "That makes it worse", "You're being downvoted because people don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. They want a faceless corporation to take the blame, while they overnight cheap goods from Amazon Prime.", "He's from Québec and im sorry for it cause hes a tabarnak d'imbécile but its true: we're 100% hydro here", "I have not seen anyone answer his point about developed countries outsourcing their dirty industries. Ones that produce the plastic bottles or humongous lithium mines for batteries, etc. \n\nSo these countries consume the most natural resources then blame the countries they outsourced the work to. India or China is responsible for the economic well being of their citizens. They will focus on emissions once most of their citizens are driving around in Teslas, working white collar jobs and debating which pronouns to use for their voice assistant.", ">This is a disgusting argument that tries throw the blame off corporations\n\nWhat's disgusting is you trying to put this on poor people, so as to avoid personal responsibility. \n\n\nLack of sustainability is not because some poor people bought clothing or food. The vast majority of sustainability issues are on first world goods. You ordering stupid shit from Amazon is the problem. Not poor people trying to live. \n\n\nPlease don't ever confuse the two again.", "Does this guy know the wet bulb temperature in India and where it might get to in the future?", "Self solving problem when most of india disappears beneath the waves.", "India is the third largest polluter in the world. I know you're emotional about the suffering of people there that is going on right now, but how can you not see how much worse that will be if they continue to increase emissions? it is not up to just India, or any single country, but India being the third biggest contributor to climate change means they have a huge responsibility.\n\nIndia watered down COP26 agreements because they don't want the hit to the economy. They send out these representatives to derail the focus from India to a childish and selfish argument of \"well the west did it first and we just want to improve our standard of living\"...it's pathetic and short sighted. Every Indian's standard of living is going to be a lot fucking worse in 30 years if they keep building coal fired power stations.\n\nHelping Indians today at the expense of every generation after is a ludicrous proposition and no, the West cannot just wave a magic wand and do it all for India, no country has the resources to do that. India has to do their bit to help and everyone on the planet will reap the rewards, not just Indians.", "It is true that the hypothesis has existed for a century or more, but climate science was a developing field and strong consensus only really started to develop with the advent of computer models as late as the 1990s.\n\nDont get me wrong - I don't necessarily think it's wrong to point out elements of inequity. Many in the west will have acted selfishly, the benefits are still felt today, and there is therefore a reasonable reparations-style argument to be made. I would likely add that comfortably-resourced nations have a moral compulsion to act for the present and future of humanity, blame or no blame.\n\nBut the original topic here was whether it is OK for Western nations to criticise others for knowingly polluting going forwards, which as you say yourself is a separate matter to righting inequities and cleaning up mess that was made. I do think that just yelling hypocrisy as if the world hasn't moved on since the 19th century is inaccurate, inflammatory, and even gives developing nations a justification for continued emissions. We must all be in this together. Western nations are by and large pushing a message that is correct and badly needs to be heard by all.", "Oh how DARE anyone expect anything of India. They were conquered, you know? Now they're responsibility free. When the world incinerates all living beings from global warming they can sit back on their ass and bleat that history wasn't fair and they shouldn't burn because they lost a war.", "They hate anyone with intelligence, no surprise", "It’s clear I’m unable to get my point across so I’ll just leave it here. You win lol", "Oh come on, you're picking and choosing contexts as you see fit, all while crying out \"Don't point fingers, it's everyone's fault\". If you watched the actual video maybe you would understand - poverty creates pollution, as does a larger population by default. Why is India so poor? Because of the British and Global West. Why does China produce so much pollution? Because the US outsourced so much of their production to China. There's a legal saying \"Don't enter the court with unclean hands\", yet that's exactly what you're doing. Nobody is saying that India or China are perfect, places like Delhi do need to figure it out. But 1) India doesn't have the money (refer above), 2) the consumer market of the West, like the US, drives a large percentage of the pollution in China, and 3) reparations are necessitated for the crimes committed, and that would work wonders towards environmental concerns too. \n\nYou casually ignore the effect of companies like Exxon, rooted in the US, that lobby extremely effectively for more coal and less renewables/nuclear. You ignore the international treaties that prevent countries like India from creating more nuclear power. You ignore the fact that renewable sources of energy are not invested in by \"developed\" nations in the poorer areas because they simply don't care. \n\nYou keep talking of solutions, but the countries you're defending are actively preventing those exact solutions from coming into play. This is the exact condescension and colonialist mindset the video spoke about, but clearly you didn't watch it.", "100% clean power ... that is impressive IF it is not driven by hydro or geo. If it is then your argument really does not hold much water. Those are cheap renewable sources that depend on if your country/region is lucky enough to have them.", "You are arguing what is fair, which is irrelevant. It isn’t fair, but it is still what is necessary.", "This is text, bro. That mumbling is in your head, I think... \n\nTotally burnt me with the perfect quotation and clown emojis though! I submit to your superior intellect and weebery.", "The fact that China is already at 12.7% despite being so much less industrialized for so long is actually kind of alarming, no? \n\nAlso, our \"chances of survival\" are still 100%, climate change is going to fuck a lot of shit up and cost a lot of money and some amount of lives but humanity will be fine overall.\n\nThe West didn't know about climate change any sooner than anyone else did, and it's the west who's made the biggest strides to reverse course. You can't blame an entire cultural sector of humanity for a problem no one could have individually seen coming hundreds of years off when industrialization began. The climate doesn't give a fuck who is spewing shit into the air, if China and India keep doing it, things will keep getting worse for us all. \n\nBut maybe that doesn't matter in your weird nuclear war fantasies.", "Oh gotcha thanks. Didn’t know Quebec was all hydro, that’s pretty cool. \n\nI’m not sure what his point is cause Quebec isn’t a country. It’s also located in a wealthy, highly developed country.\n\nI think I actually made his point better by listing those countries that have been screwed over by the UK and are still near or at 100% renewable. Still it seems like a lot of it is about population size and location.", "Bruh, USA militarily supported genocide of Hindus in1971.", "> threatening the literal future existence of our species\n\nIt's not, stop repeating this. Climate change is very bad and going to cost potentially many lives but humans as a whole are absolutely not threatened.", "Says the person who wrote \"uuh\" in text\n\nYou might be eligible for handicap status because of your lack of intelligence", "What about slaves?", "Opportunity? What about money?", "No one could have said it better ,also as a matter of fact USA is on the third number of pollution causing nations list after China and India even tho the fact that USA has almost 5 times less population than China but still manages to be in the top 3", "Goddamnit", "That’s a hilarious oversimplification.\n\nEither way, if you want to talk about “Why are we so poor?” I think “My ideologues tied us to the world’s most famous sinking ship!” has a part of the discussion.", "They did, just not as woke as western countries today.", "Can we stop calling China a developing nation?", "China is building its own space station. Who the hell is calling China a developing Nation?", "Do you really think he watched the video?", "Not to mention that every year farmers in India burn their fields so that they're clear the next season for planting. However the act of doing this releases tons of carbon dioxide and other pollutants into the air and stifles the breathability of the air for hundreds of millions of people. There are literally months where the PPM index is so high that they don't recommend people to go outside. \n\nYet somehow this guy doesn't think that India or any other developing nation should be held to account?", "Why don’t the villages without access to clean water or proper sewage systems just install solar panels!? It’s so easy— dumb greedy brown people", "There’s a massive difference between understanding clean energy and actually being able to implement it on a large scale lmao. No one is calling India dumb or fragile, it’s just a tired narrative people use to deflect the issue when they get uncomfortable talking about the head starts they’ve had in their own lives", "No, I don’t believe so. China is the factory of the world and they’ve held that title for a fair bit now. \n\nAnd the biggest issue with climate change, as it relates to South Asia anyways, is that it’s a STRONG force multiplier for everything bad. India is hurling towards fascism already, when you add in climate-induced, economically distressed farmers, who will number in the many millions, along with predominantly Muslim climate-refugees crossing from already below sea level Bangladesh to India, plus the depleting water tables and shrinking Himalayan glaciers, you have a powder keg unlike any other in the world. Everything is going wrong. I don’t think people understand what a precarious situation South Asia is in right now. We are headed towards certain doom.\n\nI don’t believe a “day after tomorrow” type event will occur, but geopolitical conflict seems almost certain to me. The current party in charge of the govt of India has already attacked Pakistan multiple times, both land and air, just to rile up their voting base and distract them from economic mismanagement they caused.\n\nAnd I don’t agree with you about the west. They’ve known more than long enough about climate change to have started taking action a long time ago. Whatever they’ve done so far, for their capability, is not good enough.", "Of course the top comment is ignorant racist deflecting trash proving the dudes point completely lol never change /r/videos", "That \"fair bit\" is still a fairly small portion of the industrialized era, and China has only 17% of the world's population and given they're the world's largest polluters currently it's likely they'll continue to grow their share of the global emissions. \n\nI won't pretend like I know tons about South Asia politics, but I do think it's hyperbolic to say that anything short of a nuclear war in the region is going to result in \"certain doom\". \n\nYou can say the west isn't doing good enough if you want, but you can't not hold other countries to the same standard. China is absolutely rich enough that they can't do their fair share. India can get their shit together and and put in an effort too. Plus the west also has developed the majority of the technology that is going to get us past climate change. Like I said, the climate doesn't care which nation dumps carbon into the air.", "Yes you do, when the planet is literally at stake. India will feel the effects of climate change a lot sooner than the west will. They literally cannot take the same path the West has, plus we now have much more tech to replace coal and the like. Those techs didn't exist for most of the 20th century.\n\nYou can yell about fairness as much as you want but the environment doesn't give a shit and there's only so much the west can do with the total amount of pollution India and China put out, even if it is less per capita. The west have a largely stable or even shrinking population. These eastern countries don't get a pollution pass just because they've got billions of people crammed together in squalid conditions.\n\nThe bottom line is India has to do everything in its power to reduce greenhouse gas emissions or there won't be a billion people living there in the intermediate future.\n\nOf the 30 most polluted cities in the world, 21 were in India in 2019.", "\"You made us do it and then you left seventy years ago and we still haven't fixed it\"", "Honestly, I feel like I don't really wanna listen. Yes, the world was very unfair for the vast majority of it's history. Still is. What's the point? \n\n\nIf they are going to cry about the Brits am I allowed to cry about the Vikings, or the Romans, who did the same in my country? Where does it end?", "Schrodinger's Historically Oppressed People. \n\n\nSimultaneously \"kicked out\" the world's most powerful empire yet still can't get their shit together decades later.", "selfish companies work both ways.\n\nChina and indian Government and companies leveraged cheap labor to bring international businesses and enrich their pockets. This guy should talk to the indian billionaire who spent over $1Billion to build his house because he clearly benefited from low labor cost.", "Western people don't want to admit that the development they are seeing and the lifestyle they are leading is because of Imperialism. Trump is talking about stealing oil. They always did it. Trump is just dumb enough to admit these things.Vijay Prasad is always enjoyable to listen to because he always chastises high brow western leftists in front of him and they can't say anything back because they have no response.", "When > 99% of Indians have access to power, clean drinking water and basic sanitation and their infant mortality isn't 7x higher than the US then we can compare. Until then it's dishonest to compare the per capita because US citizens don't experience the sort of squalor that a portion of the Indian population does. Fix your shit.", "Isn't emission rights part of human rights? If everyone is equal, then why can’t people born in developing countries have the same emission rights as developed countries?", "Not as woke ‘stole all the countries money and killed, tortured and genocided as much as they want’.", "> But India has done FAR more than Western countries, has gone far further down the path to zero emissions\n\nReally, is that why their emissions are on the rise year after year and are expected to continue doing so until at least 2050?\n\nOf the 30 most polluted cities in the world, 21 were in India in 2019.\n\nHow is it racist to say India is overpopulated? They have over 10x the population density of the US. The world would unarguably be a better place if it had that population density. That goes for Europe, too. We do not, in fact, have to have every nook and cranny of the Earth covered in people.", "Right. The west was against socialism and socialism. Now it turns to developing countries and blame capitalism. Meanwhile, the capitalists from the west are also trying to push green tech for profit. India Gov is corrupted and EIC is private, but the west can give them enough incentive to work on sustainable energy. \n\nBritish has enjoyed centuries of prosperity by colonizing others. What you are saying is like a criminal robbed a bank, spent all of the money, and washed their hand.\n\nIf the Brits can sink their lifestyle to middle class india, give all excess reources to India for implementing green tech, then we have a solution.", "Hydro is cool, but many places lack the geographic advantage to implement. Else novel energy storage wouldn't be quite so pressing", "> China and India have only produced 12.7% and 3% of historical emissions.\n\nSo with both of these nations now outpacing all other nations and continuing to increase emissions for the foreseeable future at what point are we allowed to start blaming them?", "Maybe the developed world should at least start to make the changes needed instead of asking the poor countries to make the change for them", "Is it entirely true that China is not ruled by billionaires and property tycoons? Sure the party might dominate, but the assets available and power wielded are no different between the ruling class. Especially given how much of china is based on a speculative property market. \n\n\nThe more favourable loans than the IMF is not altruistic at all as you seem to portray. It is to provide chinese money to pay for chinese companies to setup a nations infrastructure. When the nations can't pay, China gets it back.", "Developed countries are absolutely hypocrites on this and should be called out and, ideally, made to pay.\n\nThat is not an excuse for developing countries to continue polluting. The environment doesn't care about whose fault it is or what's fair. Either we all stop polluting or we all die.", "There are a lot of issues with carbon taxes. Taxing the emissions of foreign products seems difficult to implement unless you just tariff products across the board an implement a domestic carbon tax. but the bigger issue is that companies are basically buying permission to pollute. If a company has to spend more to make a production process eco friendly than what they pay in taxes then they will continue to produce those high emission goods.\n\nYou also run into issues with inelastic goods that have large carbon footprints, which will simply raise prices for consumers without hurting demand or creating more eco friendly goods.\n\nIt also reminds me of taxes on cigarettes where the government profits from cigarettes, which actually makes them less inclined in the long term to legislate against their consumption. Which is why the government made a massive fuss about vapes and their health risks, to the point of some cities straight up banning them while they acted like cigarettes weren't a way bigger health epidemic.\n\nI could be wrong, this is all just intuition, but yeah that's why I think the best move is a broader push for sustainable domestic manufacturing.", "> high brow western leftists\n\nI guess you mean liberals?", ">Yeah, and honestly, the notion of \"We aren't in this together\" may sound rebellious and may make you feel vindicated, but its just not true. We are in this together. And its the generation after us that are eating shit for it,\n\nI see you also didn't watch the video.", "Lmao exactly. All of them blaming India and China as if they don't pollute 5x more per capita.", "I wish some historians remembered that there are 3000 years of recorded history with equally as shitty empire building, pollution and genocide that doesn’t include the past 450-500 years of Eurocentric domination. However a poignant argument nonetheless against westerners who chastise certain countries or groups behind the veil of environmentalism (though helping the environment is always a good idea)", "Ok but those companies are just supplying an energy demand. What do you expect to happen if you crack down on the fossil fuel companies without doing anything else? Will people drive cars less so using less petrol? Will gas power stations burn less gas?\n\nIf you don’t deal with the demand side, clamping down on these companies will just cause someone else to dig out the coal or oil or gas, or cause energy shortages (blackouts, people not being able to heat their homes etc.). We need to shift how we generate electricity, what sources of power we use for transport etc. I don’t think this is really in the power of the companies you mentioned.\n\nI’m not saying these companies don’t need regulation, and some of them have driven some of this problem by lobbying for climate denialism. I just don’t see what way you could “clamp down” on them that would significantly affect climate change.", "As soon as you give our 30 trillion sterlings adjusted to inflation", "We just got independence 70 years ago, fuck off you pigs", "Fuck the americans", "I don't see how India refusing to phase out coal is going to help Indian children eat. Climate change is going to hit India significantly harder than it will hit 'bourgeois' countries, and in fact is already being hit harder.", "This guy rants", "Why does china get to pretend to be a developing country when it suits them? They're plenty developed.", "Developing countries barely have any enviromental regulations or laws. They already have more \"rights\" to pollute than the developed nations. \n \nAlmost all plastic in the oceans come from just four rivers in Asia where they dump all carbage directly into the rivers. Doing that would get any country in EU sanctioned and kicked out of the Union. \n \n...but if pollution is your concern then the largest sources of it are what matters. Earth doesn't care what the \"per capita\" somewhere is. It's the absolute amount of pollution that matters.", "Kuznets curve.", "Agree. Kuznets curve. Entitled first world kids who've passed the peak of the curve telling developing nations to \"just\" go green. Funny how ignorant these people are when they got rich because of the industrial revolution. Then they ridicule developing countries who are doing the same. So funny.", "The fuck? Your country have passed the kuznets curve, developing nations have not. Then you have the audacity to point fingers to developing nations doing the same exact thing that powered and made your country rich.", "There are tensions brewing surrounding india. Tensions between china and pakistan... you have the luxury to not worry about war then point fingers to countries who do. So ignorant.", "Easy to talk when you stand on rich soil with a history of atrocities. Kuznets curve. Your country passed the peak of that curve and you point down on developing countries who're on the same path. Ignorant", "When somebody criticizes you, the solution is to assume they are foreign trolls paid by some foreign government.\n\nI guess it's easier than actually addressing anything. Keep at it yank, I'm sure staying in a world of delusion will be useful in the longrun.\n\nP. S. Americans could be invading half the planet and will, with a straight face, tell you that some other country is really to blame. Pure projection.", "> fact is also that the very same countries get the benefit of renewable research that have been done in other countries\n\nNo. Not for free at-least. Every bit of research gains are always sold.\n\nUnless you are China, where you just steal it.", "The country with the largest population in the world has the 3rd largest military? What a surprise.\n\nHow much more do the yanks spend on military? 10 times as much even though the US has 1/4 the population? \n\nLol, the US spends approximately 40 times more on a per capita basis than India on their military and its India that is the violent warmonger.\n\nStop projecting you warmongering yank.", "Downvotes are from the colonizers.\n\nWesterners with colonizer mentality can't get any better anyway. All they can do is believe how they are morally superior and it is their duty to tell others what is right and what is wrong.", "\"hypothesis postulates an inverted-U-shaped relationship between different pollutants and per capita income, i.e., environmental pressure increases up to a certain level as income goes up; after that, it decreases.\" Environmental Kuznets Curve Hypothesis: A Survey - Soumyananda Dinda\n\n It takes a lot of money to maintain, train, and build and/or replace new green infrastructure compared to just using fossil fuels and old fossil fuels infrastructure.", "No I meant western leftists. Here's a good video from him :\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcX2O47NZuc\n\nwestern leftists on the internet always claims that China, Cuba aren't socialists and only they can bring real socialism. Reality is these things are really hard to achieve as the imperialists country always tries to sabotage those attempts. There's no perfect way to do these things w/ the CIAs of the world. There's a hilarious thread I saw on the other day that framed Chinese anti-corruption attempts as bad because US intelligence agencies can't spy on Xi Jinping anymore.\n\nhttps://twitter.com/PeterMartin_PCM/status/1458316302725132296", "China and India are vastly more polluted and they are the main perpetrators of climate change.\n\n(America also has more trees now than it did 100 years ago. Can the others say that?)", "2017 is when the data you posted ended...read what you posted.", "Yeah…and that’s fine.", "You don't find it hypocritical at all that an Indian communist is bemoaning the struggles India faces, and finds that not one of them is due to India's economy being dragged down the shitter for more than a decade by hitching their wagon to communism?\n\nFunny how that was far more recent than their independence, and yet that's not even worth mentioning.", "Typically the trade agreements are such that they favour the \"rich\" countries. Politicians who try to shift the focus towards making a better life for the poor in their country at the expense of western financial interests tend to end up dead or embargoed pretty quickly.", "Thats a great mistake, however to get rich they need to depend on fossil fuels in the present, the point is the hypocrisy here is western civilization's condescending nature towards developing nations who are using fossil fuels expecting them to suddenly go green when they themselves became rich because of industrialization and exploiting countries for their resources like oil and recently lithium. And of course outsourcing to a foreign country then blaming the country for having a lot of pollution like he said in the video. In order to get green the same point the west is at, the developing country must pass the peak of the Kuznets Curve.", "There's a massive power inbalance in the trade deals that forces India to engage in certain business practices or be fined/sanctioned. For example they have a trade agreement with USA to buy solar panels that effectively prevents them from being able to manufacture their own solar panels. It might be bad for the environment, but US business interest comes first. This is imperialism.", ">western leftists on the internet always [...]\n\nThis is too vague a term. Social democrats, democratic socialists, left communists, anarchists and Trotskyites maybe. But not MLs or MLMs. Actually now that I've written it out I see your point - most western leftists fall into the earlier categories.", "Except patents run out. The first hydro electric dam was built in 1882. The first electric windmill was made in 1888. i could go on and on. there's loads of research done that is out in the open due to patents having run out.", "China is switching to renewable energy, it is just taking time they can't do it overnight. If manufacturing in china became more expensive but more environmentally friendly the US would just move manufacturing to somewhere else and save a few dollars even if it meant more pollution.", "I realize that and know that Québec is privileged to be in the position we're in. Still, it's a point of pride here that we're very green on all fronts, starting with our grid.", "Yeah, everyone keeps bringing up \"Historical Emissions\" as if it fucking matters lol.", "I like how you’re proud of the fact you are so triggered by me you are searching thru my comments. A stranger on the internet. Lmao indeed. Only on reddit is this not considered utterly pathetic.", "While he is of course right, this is why we will fail. We are doomed.", "Lmao who you calling pathetic? \n\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/powv26/do_the_math_its_actually_true/hd9sz9y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3", "Nope..... That's exactly what every one of these comments sounds like. It sounds exactly like you think India needs their hand held because they are too stupid to do it on their own.... But instead of it being Republicans, or people on the right, that normally have these type of degrading thoughts about people outside of their own tribe, in this case it's the left doing it from a \"helping\" perspective, just like they try to do with a lot of black people that they probably never actually lived around and co-mingled with..... Y'all have some type of white-knight complex, where everyone that isn't you is dumb and not capable of making their own sound decisions and, therefore, they need to just stand back and let y'all intelligent adults take over, y'all definitely know what's best for everybody......\n\nObviously it's the way the hell more nuanced than that, but that is definitely the overarching theme that a lot of people would get from reading all of these comments......", "For a \"historian\" he surely has a very childish approach in his reading of history, with that blame game thing. Especially his use of \"you\" and \"we\" is ludicrous for a \"historian\".", "We’ve reached the end of unlimited industry, and 2nd tier nations don’t like that the timer sounded before they can catch up. \n\nThe choice is simple: humanity survives or your country loses the race anyway.", "...says 1-day-old China-apologist account.", "Yeah it's hypocrisy, yeah we effed up, but what are you arguing about really? It's either we all work together or we all die together. Stop whining, fix the problem and make new laws to ensure it never happens again. Only then can we start blaming and seeking compensation.", "I really appreciate what you're trying to do here, but I feel like the guy you're arguing with is a troll, or insurmountably stupid. You're not going to change his mind despite how cleanly you lay out the statistics.", "Some of us are trying to address global warming. Everyone benefits from remedying global warming, and everyone suffers if we don't. This guy wants to play blame games and play the victim. Completely unproductive and therefore inappropriate. He sounds like a narcissistic demagogue.\n\nIndia has many talented engineers. Apply them to the problem. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.", "\"Literally everything you said indicates a mentality of \"let bygones be bygones\", and talk of \"greater good\". \n\nShow me where I said any of this. You are creating a strawman argument and paraphrasing completely made up counterpoints I never made.\n\n\"Your solution to this is \"since climate change is immediate, everyone should sacrifice coal. Sure, it'll only cause a bit of hardship in the west, and unfortunately it'll cause mass starvation and deaths in the erstwhile colonies, but the chips fall as they must otherwise we'll all burn\".\n\nAgain, this was never said at any point. I simply said that India/eastern countries will have to deal with/address climate change in one way or another. You keep making up talking points and arguments that were never made, so it's kind of impossible to continue on like this.\n\n\"If this is what you're saying, you're an idiot. If not, your comments are very misleading.\"\n\nNice. Appreciate the direct, personal insults. You can interpret things however you want, but if you keep making things up, things will be difficult.", "*\"...that effectively prevents them from being able to manufacture their own solar panels. \"\n\nYou're implying that India doesn't manufacture solar panels at all which is simply untrue, or that US trade agreements is what's specifically stopping their production levels. First off, they primarily buy from China, as much as 85%. It's more the fact they are limited by raw material production, are already being outmatched by China and other countries and [a myriad of other reasons.](https://indiaclimatedialogue.net/2021/01/27/is-india-ready-to-compete-china-in-solar-module-production/) Saying it's all because of shoddy deals with the U.S is a complete fabrication and disingenuous. \n\n\" It might be bad for the environment, but US business interest comes first. This is imperialism.\"\n\nEvery business in the world idealistically does things out of self interest. It's called business. How to jump from trade-agreements to outright imperialism is quite a leap, but maybe you can expand on what specific agreements or fines/sanctions you're referring to.", "\"Oh come on, you're picking and choosing contexts as you see fit, all while crying out \"Don't point fingers, it's everyone's fault\"\n\nNo, I am saying that everyone is a participant, regardless of who is more to blame or responsible. \n\n\" If you watched the actual video maybe you would understand - poverty creates pollution, as does a larger population by default.* Why is India so poor? Because of the British and Global West. Why does China produce so much pollution? Because the US outsourced so much of their production to China.\"\n\nOkay, I don't argue with any this?\n\n\"You casually ignore the effect of companies like Exxon, rooted in the US, that lobby extremely effectively for more coal and less renewables/nuclear. You ignore the international treaties that prevent countries like India from creating more nuclear power. You ignore the fact that renewable sources of energy are not invested in by \"developed\" nations in the poorer areas because they simply don't care.\"\n\nNo, as I clearly and specifically said before, I do not argue against any of these ideas or that one party isn't more responsible. You keep focusing on the blame here and reiterating whose at fault and like the idea of this context as a defense for why India isn't doing more. Which again, okay, that's fine...but my point was this focus is still entirely a blame game and irrelevant that still, at the end of the day, something has to be done. So, if the U.S bears responsibilities and requires pulling more leg work, so be it. I am not arguing against this. You can have the most articulate explanation in the world and go through the detailed history of India, early colonialism and modern business practices that have kept India in poverty. Of which, none of it I would argue against. This is still not the issue.\n\nThe issue is that something needs to be done about it. India and the east will have to deal with it, regardless of what caused it or who is to blame. Regardless of who needs to be the one who does the financing or who needs to do it.", "\"So apparently your entire comment said nothing of any actual value and just made up nebulous bullshit platitudes. Thank you for wasting everyone's time.\"\n\nSorry I didn't resort to the intellectual prowess of finger pointing, hurling direct personal insults and admitting to your strawman arguments of things I never even claimed at all.\n\nIndia is going to deal with climate change in one way or another and is very much a source of C02 emission contributing to climate change. We've established the cause of many of it, the history, it's difficulties and reason why it's hypocritical and outrageous for the U.S/Western civilization to say it bears the full responsibility when it directly contributes to it. None of which at any point was ever even contested or argued against while you keep reiterating finger pointing talking points. You seem to think that saying India will have to deal with it is a way of deflecting blame when that is still completely irrelevant to the fact of reality that it is still very much a problem. With or without the assistance of foreign investment/help, it will very much have to be solved within the country in many, many complex aspects. \n\nSo, like my original point from the very beginning stated, here we are with you calling me an idiot, reiterating the U.S/Europe/Western civilization's fault for India's global warming contributions and finger pointing. You don't grasp that all of this is still irrelevant to the actual problem and that like any actual problem, it requires an actual solution. You keep focusing on the cause of the accident and shouting at the driver rather than getting everyone to the hospital.", "Lmao you still looking through my comments kid? Sure are sensitive snowflake. What your family from India? Bet you can smell your mom a mile away :)", "> India has the 3rd largest military budget in the world\n\nWhat don't people actually understand that if you have more people you will inevetiably spend more money? \n\nBut you have to spend that money to provide for more people. \n\nI bet their healthcare budget is also pretty big too, but there's also more people that need a slice of the budget pie.", ">eements are such that they favour the \"rich\" countries. Politicians who try to shift the focus towards making a better life for the poor in their country at the expense of western financial interests tend to \n\nof course, because 'rich' countries are usually the 'customer' looking for cheap manufacturing labor. China and India has low labor cost partially due to high labor 'supply' driven by their large populations. If US or Germany had the cheapest labor/manufacturing costs that can meet the demand, manufacturing jobs will go there in a heart beat. However, western nations enforce more strict labor laws, which increases labor cost so labors that can be outsourced are outsourced.", "Bro what? Lmao", ">However, western nations enforce more strict labor laws, which increases labor cost so labors that can be outsourced are outsourced.\n\nLol, bro, u guys don't even want fill up basic agricultural jobs despite there being labor protections for it. U rely on illegal immigrants to do jobs like janitorial services, fruit picking etc. Def not because of ur 'strict labor protections', it's cos u westerners are entitled to only picking high paying jobs, smaller hours, and a lot of free time off to party lol. Come to a developing country, and people there will show u what an actual labor job actually looks like", "you brought up a good point. Illegal immigration is an issue that US has been fighting. Imagine: if all illegal immigrants decides quit tomorrow, will no one pick fruits or provide janitorial service? No, companies will be forced to increase wages until they find someone who is willing to work.\n\nIf the market salary for janitors is $200,000/year, a lot of people would be happy being a janitor. Also, the level of difficulty of labor isn't the issue, apt compensation is. In Indian and China, there are too many people who would do the job for less. Since they have high labor 'supply', they use it to meet the outsourced international labor 'demand' at an agreed price.", "Lmao you’re a quick one", "...All I'm saying is that you will not get elected in the west if you plan to do something that can be construed by the bottom feeders as \"he wants to have the American taxpayer handover money to other countries (bonus points if you can insinuate that even one of those countries has a problem with corruption) when we have x, y, and z problem at home.\" Tucker Carlson will run that story every night. Because of this I don't think this will happen in a substantial enough way because Americans will view it as unfair even when it isn't.", "This argument is complete nonsense. What your saying isn't a rebuttal to my points.\n\nMy point was: Either subsidise their use of green energy or you aren't allowed to criticize them.\n\nIf their reasoning is that it isn't politically viable to subsidise them, it doesn't change my point that they should shut up. \n\nIf American politicians aren't willing to do something that isn't popular, to save the planet, it's their damn fault for being selfish.\n\nLike compare the motives here. American politicians aren't willing to do something to help the planet, because they want to protect their political career. Poor countries aren't willing to do something to help the planet, because they are too poor and people need electricity. Who is more worthy of criticism?\n\nI also can't believe you used Tucker Carlson as an example. As if he wouldn't run any story into the ground about spending any money (even domestically) on fighting climate change. \n\nWe are truly doomed if we are too scared to advocate for things that might upset Tucker Carlson.", "Confused why you’re taking internet so seriously", "Source: My local alcoholic bartender.", "I wasn't trying to rebut your points. I was instead saying your points are irrelevant. It doesn't matter that I think you are right. It doesn't matter if a politician thinks your right, is not selfish, and runs on that policy. That politician won't get elected and they will be just another citizen with an opinion. They won't get elected because of people like Tucker Carlson.", "> That politician won't get elected and they will be just another citizen with an opinion.\n\nYou do realize that politicians aren't limited to policies that they ran on right? Also these days getting elected has almost nothing to do with actual policy, especially in the US. At worst they might lose re-election from implementing unpopular policies. Which in that case my point on them being selfish still stands.\n\n> They won't get elected because of people like Tucker Carlson.\n\nI guess only Republicans get elected then, because whatever Tucker Carlson doesn't like isn't politically viable.\n\n> I wasn't trying to rebut your points. \n\nOkay cool so you agree that America and other Global North countries should not be critical of the Global South using coal and should not sanction them. Cool.", "You quite literally mention India and China so you kind of are talking about countries. Also regardless China and india do more to stop pollution than the US.", "No we cannot and should not, Chinese GDP per capita is less than Iraq and Thailand", "And out comes the racism, just like clockwork.", "If your curiosity is sincere: Marx theorized that socialism would be born with the ‘scars of capitalism,’ but nonetheless socialism is the process of resolving the contradictions of capitalist society (e.g. those you’ve already named). Therefore a socialist society should be judged on the just transition from capitalism to communism, where China has named the year 2050 as the endpoint of the transitional society into true communism, or what the West would understand as a state run economy. \n\nMore answers can be found by glancing at Deng Xiaoping thought", "Suppose we will see how the current evergrande situation is resolved, so see if the party is sincere in their aspirations. Thanks for the answer", "Yes and just so happens the carbon emissions per capita is the highest amongst developed nations...so even if it's a demand issue...western nations need to look internally before pointing the finger and deflecting.", "I’m indian you moron lmao. I know exactly what y’all are talking about when you cry dogwhistles like the “bigotry of low expectations”", "This is incredibly well put! Good job!", "I don’t think you read what I said properly, because my point was that regulating fossil fuel extraction companies based in developed nations as the main measure is likely to have either little effect if it just prompts other companies to dig the fossil fuels out of the ground, or severe negative effects on people’s quality of life everywhere if the regulation causes a significant reduction in the use of energy.\n\nBut given that you talked about developed nations versus developing nations and what they’re doing about greenhouse gas emissions I’ll also address that. Developed nations _are_ looking internally and are reducing greenhouse gas emissions before pointing fingers. The vast majority of developed nations are currently reducing carbon emissions while China and India in particular are increasing at a quick rate (see for example [this graph](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?tab=chart)) countries should be committing to reducing emissions from now, not increasing them! Also for example on the per capita emissions point while still a little behind the USA,\n[China emits more per capita than the EU.](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita?tab=chart)\n\nI don’t think it’s unreasonable to say _all_ countries should be moving towards reducing their overall greenhouse emissions immediately. Those who emit the most per capita should reduce the fastest but all countries need to reduce emissions now including China and India, who make the most claims that they don’t need to do anything and the west is finger pointing.", "USA is on second. More than twice the carbon output of India", "Tiny Westoid brain copium", "Commenting on a 7-day comment.\n\n>Arguing that India suffers from post colonialism is crazy\n\nAre you seriously neglecting and denying long term effect of colonization? Did you think that everything would be back to normal like 10 years after they leave the colony? keep in mind they were \"looting\" the country for like 200 years. Are you also one of those who will also say \"but.. they also civilized the country!\" when the literacy rate of these colonies were like 30% when they left?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Are we ignoring all of India and China’s, uncontrolled population growth?\n\nBut holy fuck, can't you see that the fertility rate of India got to the replacement level and would be going down in the future. Do you also neglect the disastrous policies of one-child only in China and other policies introduced in India in the 80s which some guessed it, went not so well. Population control on a mass scale is not as simple as some of you armchair analysts saying \"don't make babies!\"\n\nAlso are you one of those people who really think the reason behind India's and China's population is because at one point at time they all just randomly decided to pop 10 babies per household? Can't you get the reason that the civilizations thrived in Mainland China and India and already had a head-start on population like thousand years back. The population now is the result of that.\n\n>China pollutes, India pollutes, the U.S. pollutes, England and Scotland pollute. \n> \n>We don’t fix the problem with the globe we share by communicating like this.\n\nOf course you dingus, nobody is denying that. The person in the video is arguing against certain activists from privileged countries putting the most blame on China/India and some other third world countries.\n\n\\----\n\n>I’m sorry, is there a factual inaccuracy in my comment?\n\nA Lot. So much so I had to reply to it, despite being like a week old.", "Cope", "Wow, this is astounding.. \nHow can somebody know so little, be so uneducated, and yet speak so confidently? \n\nThinking USA and India are the same because you saw the word ‘colony’ in both shows you have zero knowledge of colonialism or the history of the 2 countries and their relationship with Britain. The British built the US colonies in nothing but forests and grasslands for natural resources. The people in the US were British, and there was nothing existing to exploit (to some degree native Americans but they were nomadic). India’s GDP was greater 35% of the world GDP for about 5000 years (google historical gdp of countries), and Britain was like 2% when they came onto the scene in the 1600s. During colonialism this became the inverse where India’s wealth was funnelled to Britain and their GDP share rose to 20% and India’s fell to 2%. America was British until it wasn’t. There was nothing built, no inherent wealth or people to enslave. India was already 100s of times richer than Britain, whose wealth the British stole and people they enslaved. \n\nFkn hell 😂😂😂 USA and India he says 😂", "Robert. You seem irrational and prone to insults. \n\nYou also seem to miss the point of my post in that India and the U.S. were both colonies of Britain. Yet, we’re used as an example in the video in the narrative. \n\nIn regards to your other points.\n\nWhat was the literary rate of India when the British arrived? Please enlighten me. Which language did India read in? You act like I’m arguing for the goodness of British rule. I said no such thing. I stated that there’s no basis for using colonisation as the argument for refrain of curbing pollution. I still see nothing that merits that argument. \n\nRegarding population: Are you arguing that the population density of India and China aren’t part of it’s problems? Keep in mind, I’m not making a value judgement on China’s “one child” policy. It’s clearly abhorrent. I’m not even making a statement on population control. I’m not trying to solve a problem. I’m making a statement about the effects of high population density and resource scarcity when it comes to economic recovery.\n\nI don’t remember Britain having a system in place to subdue a population by forcing them to procreate. But, I could be wrong about that.", "Saying that the people in the US were British shows how little you actually know about the subject, my friend.", "No? China, the middle east have higher per capita emissions than many western countries, even if you include exported industry. The anglo countries are really the largest bandits in the west, but many large western economies such as France and Italy have been steadily decreasing their emissions.\n\n\\> But it is on India which consumes less and produces less greenhouse gases to be more responsible.\n\nBut not one says this? Absolutely everyone in the world are in agreement that developed nations need to bear the most responsibility tackling climate change", "nice analogy", "Pray tell 😇", "What do you suppose the natives of North America were called by the British colonials?", ">as if it fucking matters lol.\n\nWhy doesn't it matter?", ">Very convenient he didnt bring up the part before colonialism where the Indians were enslaving and exploiting other minorities on the subcontinent.\n\nLooks like someone is tickled. Twisting facts for convenience.", ">If they are going to cry about the Brits am I allowed to cry about the Vikings, or the Romans, who did the same in my country?\n\nI'm pretty sure that Viking raids and Roman conquests cannot be compared to what the Brits did for 200 years?\n\n>I feel like I don't really wanna listen. Yes, the world was very unfair for the vast majority of it's history. Still is.\n\nAre trying to justify what the Brits did?", ">. Yet, we’re used as an example in the video in the narrative. \n\nThe United States got independent in 1787, and India, in 1947. A vast gap. I don't get why are you calling the previous person irrational.\n\n>You act like I’m arguing for the goodness of British rule.\n\nYou just did.\n\n>I stated that there’s no basis for using colonisation as the argument for refrain of curbing pollution\n\nYeah, there is basis. When you've been colonised for 200 years, and get independent at a time when the developed countries are already miles ahead with their industrialisation and possible energy alternatives, there is certainly a basis.\n\n>What was the literary rate of India when the British arrived? Please enlighten me. Which language did India read in?\n\nBy asking these, what point are you trying to prove?", ">Really, is that why their emissions are on the rise year after year and are expected to continue doing so until at least 2050?\n\nInstead of looking at emissions trajectory, why don't you take a look at the number of renewable energy projects that India is doing over the years? Or are you just concerned over the results?", ">How is it racist to say India is overpopulated?\n\nIt is racist to say that India is overpopulated because TFR is falling, and population growth, in general, is declining.", "First, this comment is ancient in Reddit terms. Necro posting is weird. Second, results are what matters when it comes to heating up the planet.", "Those are non sequiturs as to why it's racist. Completely unrelated.", ">results are what matters when it comes to heating up the planet.\n\nOh really? If we talk about results, our carbon emissions share is much less than other countries. Historically, our emissions are negligible. But yeah, let's just ignore that.\n\nResults are also there we got independent at a time when the rest of the world were miles ahead of us. Nature doesn't give a shit, but then our colonisers didn't give a shit about us as well, when they looted us.", ">First, this comment is ancient in Reddit terms. Necro posting is weird.\n\nSo?", "I'm not interested in arguing with an Indian nationalist about why India is just as much to blame for global warming as anyone else. Just keep your head in the sand.", ">I'm not interested in arguing with an Indian nationalist about why India is just as much to blame\n\nCause you don't have an argument. \n\n>Just keep your head in the sand.\n\nNope. Rather, you should tone your voice down. Know your place.", ">I'm not interested in arguing with an Indian nationalist\n\nYeah, speaking like a true white supreacist.", "😂 Must be pretty sad to live in a way where everyone is an enemy to you. At least you didn't deny being a nationalist.", "My place is in a country where babies don't die constantly, women have equal rights, we don't have a caste system with \"untouchables\" and people don't shit in the street, but go off king.", ">My place is in a country where babies don't die constantly, women have equal rights, we don't have a caste system with \"untouchables\" and people don't shit in the street, but go off king.\n\nI don't know where your place is, but I'm pretty sure that you're exaggerating the narrative.", ">Must be pretty sad to live in a way where everyone is an enemy to you.\n\nNope. I'm pretty stable. What amazes me is that whenever somebody says anything that doesn't go right with people like you, they're deemed as nationalists. I don't see rather, what is wrong with nationalism. I am entitled to love my country.", "Haha... Hahaha... what is wrong with nationalism? Nationalism is what allowed British people to justify subjugating the entire world. You'd think as an Indian you'd understand that.", ">we don't have a caste system with \"untouchables\"\n\nNope. You just have straight out racism.\n\n>people don't shit in the street\n\nAn instance of your racism, alongwith\n\n\n>babies don't die constantly\n\n>women have equal rights,", ">Nationalism is what allowed British people to justify subjugating the entire world.\n\nNationalism is also something that fostered the creation of first nation-states, isn't it? As an Indian, I understand that.", "https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/index.html\n\nSpeaking about true statistics is not racism. Indian-Americans don't practice open defecation. It's a problem with India the country, not Indians the people. I want to see India become a modern western country but you have a lot of work still to do. You should also be careful not to let Hindu Nationalists take complete control of your country. Religious extremism is bad.", "No. You can form a nation without believing yours is the superior people and should subjugate others.", ">Speaking about true statistics is not racism.\n\nTrue statistics. Ok. Your link is the go-to backup for westoids. Anyway, here's mine.\n\nhttps://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ODFC.ZS?locations=IN\n\nWhat you're doing is exactly racism. When you don't have an argument, you push some stereotypes, pretending to know more than an Indian.", ">No. You can form a nation without believing yours is the superior people and should subjugate others.\n\nNope. That's not nationalism. You are just twisting the meaning of nationalism.", "The comments on youtube are different", "What does your link show that mine didn't? Did you actually read the article I linked? You can't have if you think your link shows anything different. 15% is still WAY too many people not properly disposing of their feces.", "na·tion·al·ism\n\n/ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm/\n\nnoun\n\nidentification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.", ">15% is still WAY too many people not properly disposing of their feces.\n\nYeah, cause we have a large population. Anyway, you are just trying to push the stereotype of street shitters, when , in fact, it decreasing every year.", ": loyalty and devotion to a nation\nespecially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups", "Your own fucking link shows it was 3/4 people just a few years ago. That's not a stereotype dude. And yes, you remember how the original comment you replied to was about how India is overpopulated? Thank you for agreeing with me. People had to shit in the street because there are too many people. Next up after fixing public defecation comes figuring out how to feed your people.\n\nhttps://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/food/india-claims-to-be-self-sufficient-in-food-production-but-facts-say-otherwise-62091\n\n> Data shows that the country barely has enough to feed its own people, let alone be self-sufficient or a net exporter. The country is home to 270 million hungry people, the highest in the world. India stands 97th in Oxfam’s Food Availability Index, and 103rd in the 2018 Global Hunger Index.\n\nAnd then you can address gender equality\n\nhttps://www.theigc.org/blog/the-growing-concern-around-violence-against-women-in-india-where-do-we-stand/\n\nYou can't just cry racism any time the issues with India are pointed out. America has a fuck ton of issues and you'll never catch me accusing others of racism for pointing them out.", "Yes, \"above all others\". Fuck that shit. Nationalists are trying to take over America as well. That \"White supremacy\" you accuse me of is part and parcel with nationalism. Indian nationalism is no better. Ask the Muslims in your country how they feel about having Hindu Nationalists in government.", ">I'm pretty sure that Viking raids and Roman conquests cannot be compared to what the Brits did for 200 years?\n\nAre you kidding, or do you just not know the history of them?", "I can't cry racism, why? You first said to put my head in the sand, then when I said 'know your place', you straight up came with gender inequality and open defecation out of nowhere. You still haven't clarified why India is to blame for the pollution, when we were fucked by 200 years of blatant colonialism. Yeah, it's racism to come out with our prejudices every single time we say anything about everything.", ">Fuck that shit\n\nWhy?\n\n>Ask the Muslims in your country how they feel about having Hindu Nationalists in government.\n\nWhy don't you ask the Muslims, why they support Pakistan or carry out terrorist activities, or vandalize our temples and idols?\n\n>Indian nationalism is no better.\n\nYeah, coming from a country which repeatedly supported Pakistan, and even sent an entire fleet against us.", "Nope. Not kidding. You are kidding when you are comparing them.", "I'm curious. Where do you live?", ">Your own fucking link shows it was 3/4 people just a few years ago.\n\n10 years is a few years ago?\n\n>Next up after fixing public defecation comes figuring out how to feed your people.\n\n\nInstead of lecturing us, let's go back to the main point.\nYou are just trying to show that we are inferior by citing our lack of hygiene and starvation.You are overlooking the fact that we have only been independent for just 75 years, at a time when the rest of the world is rapidly advancing in technology.", "We have had the tech for toilets for a hundred years. India has the same access to that tech as anyone else. Your persecution complex is annoying. Fix your shit, stop blaming others.", ">We have had the tech for toilets for a hundred years. India has the same access to that tech as anyone else.\n\nNope. We didn't. It was not easy to reach every nook and corner 100 years ago.\n\n>Your persecution complex is annoying\n\nYour ignorance is irritating.\n\n>Fix your shit, stop blaming others.\n\nWhy not?", "Lmfao. And I'm the bigot. A'ight dude. Have a good day, good luck with that nationalism, I'm sure it won't come back to bite you in the ass.", ">I'm sure it won't come back to bite you in the ass.\n\nNo, it won't come. Just like you westoids controlled the world economy and asking us to stop blaming.\n\n>Lmfao. And I'm the bigot.\n\nYou're. No lmfao.", "India have to keep a high military budget because of the threat we get from China. For the West ,China is just an economic threat but for India , China is a military threat. India is the only major country against China which shares a border with them. China had already taken parts of Ladakh, India in 1962 wars and also claims control of Arunachal Pradesh, India.", "Useful input mr lurking troll. Go use ur giga brain to explain why 80 years of 0 progress is all other peoples fault, or is 4 words ur max.", "You bathe in shit. Cope.", "Reported for harassment.", "Again, good luck with that. \n\nYour comment history is full of actual literal hatred for Pakistan and it's people.\n\nCope.", "Cope and seethe", "Bro, he's from India. Not San Francisco.", "Okay then start with not being the rape capital of the world.", "Is the west responsible for India's large population too ?", "> Where are the history teachers in the so called first world?\n\nWe dont learn shit about our past in any materialist way, nor do we learn how our history forms the present. Our history (if its even taught at all) of colonialism and imperialism is extremely separated from the present imperialism, neocolonialism and the economic disparities between the imperial core and the peripheries.\n\n> Because in the northern hemisphere, seems like colonization is being seen and taught just as a regular war or invasion.\n\nThis is honestly above average in terms of knowledge regarding the subject in the northern hemisphere. Its infuriating.", "You mean Botswana?", "What a retarded comment. India has huge military budget to defend itself against their neighbors. Indian space program is not even 0.001 % of it's GDP", ">Not to mention that every year farmers in India burn their fields so that they're clear the next season for planting.\n\nThe government tried to ban this but farmers protested against it and blocked roads", "because it shines a light on these burger munching Americans", "As a Chinese myself I would disagree though. I don’t think we are playing the blame game, but just voicing a simple demand - if there is to be a quota, it must be set on per capita basis. There is no reason why a chinese should be allowed to emit less CO2 than an American. And this is a demand that ‘Western Countries’ wouldn’t take.", "So even though China surpasses the U.S in CO2 emissions, you're saying...what?", "They don’t teach their kids bout colonialism - probably the US makes an attempt at it - but the UK and European countries conveniently choose to ignore the crimes their ancestors committed. I mean what do you expect from the present day people in developed countries who have been taught to think highly of Winston Churchill?", "Yes they did “force” coal on India. Your comment lacks insight about how civilizations and societies work.", "Can you please elaborate on the slavery bit? Never heard of this so curious where you’ve got this information from.", "The Mahabharata talks about slaves. The mughal empire is notorious for slavery. Then the caste system creates indebted labor by birth by branding people as untouchables.", "Interesting - the difference between these and colonialism though is that in the first case resources were not taken out of India - they stayed in India despite these events. With colonialism, resources (an estimate of $45 Trillion) were looted from the country. \n\nIn any case all countries have to do their part in combatting climate change.", "So you are fine with slavery as long as no resources leave the country? Got ya. The mughal empire took resources out of India. The mongols even invaded. India has long history of losing to invaders. That said, the mughal empire also massacred and exploted their neighbors and they were full Indian. Dont act like the people of india are saints and it's all on the British. Given the opportunity, india would have colonized England. Maybe the problem is not the British but the Indian people electing facist dictators that allow roaming gang of rapists to run free and create a cult of personality.", "Lol why are you so riled up? I never said they were saints and I am not OK with those issues as well. Yes the Mughals invaded the country and some went back to the Middle East - however a majority of them settled in India which is very very different from the UK which completely left the country with stolen resources. To this day you’ll see people of Mughal ancestry in India but you’re not going to find a person with British ancestry in the country - which is why I highlight the difference between the Mughal and Brit colonizers. And I honestly doubt Indians would go to colonize Britain as land was easily one of the most fertile in the world as it is near the equator, food was easily grown.\n\nThe point I was making is that colonization depletes and weakens a country’s resources in a way different from the other events you brought up. The Mughals still brought prosperity to India during their rule at certain times - can’t really say the same for the Brits.\n\nYou got to chill. This is not an attack on you - but facts need to be acknowledged as to why the country was left in the state it was in in 1947. I will ignore the other racist stereotypes you brought up in your comment.", "Colonization is not an excuse for a countries own failure. It's time india owned up to it's own mistakes.", "It is not an excuse but it is part of a reason. It seems like a lot of people like to willfully ignore it because it’s painful to accept that another society suffered at the hands of one’s ancestors and so resents them. But your comments essentially seem very similar to victim blaming and completely ignore the painful effect that colonization has in a country - the effects of which can be seen even today. In any case most Indians do not overly victimize themselves - the country has had weak geopolitical power in the past century and so Indians I know have to work hard to earn their keep. But I do believe the country can and should do much better. But I also think countries like the US live a more consumerist life and have more leeway to adopt climate friendly policies than India where it’s more a life-death situation.\n\nI also wouldn’t consider the country to be failing. Regardless, I am hoping the country shifts to renewables quickly.", "Every society on this planet has suffered at the hands of another ...", "Us has more emissions than india you dumb donkey", "True. Doesn’t mean they can place blame on other countries for not doing “enough” when they lag behind their targets too and are part of the reason for impoverishment", "Lol, you expect a country to regain trillions of dollars of wealth in 70 years? Most intelligent American", "The country with the highest rape rates is botswana. In fact even the us has a higher rape rate than india", "Lol fuck off. $45 trillion gone in a poof like that and millions rape and murdered and it’s not all on the British?", "Something called gdp per capital", "Are you serious? India is one of the greatest products rn next to China. You literally know nothing lmaoooooo I'll take fries with that", "[I’m sure the US has google ](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/092915/5-countries-produce-most-carbon-dioxide-co2.asp) . Do y’all even think before you type LOL", "No I'm busy banging your sisters and wives while your tiny dick types on the internet LOL Gluck Gluck you cuck", "Least retarded American. How are you so stupid yet delusional? Dumbass", "Also, you play clash Royale and you’re white. You ain’t getting no bitches LOL", "I'm not American but thanks for the assumption. \n\n\nEdit - my post literally two posts back said I wasn't American, lol.", "I didn’t ask but thanks for the assumption", "Your sisters and girlfriends love white guys. PM me and I'll send you pics of your curry sluts gagging on my dick LOL", "Least delusional westoid. Everyone here thinks you’re school shooters and weirdos", "The entire world had it bad under colonialism. India is nothing special.", "India had the most money stolen out of it and was the prime possession of the British. Also, the us was colonised 300 years ago, india was colonised 70 years ago. And most of Europe wasn’t colonised. L", "I never said you need? \n\n\nReading is hard, isn't it?", "Shame britian had to leave all that infrastructure there. What will india ever do with those roads, bridges, rail, and power.", "LOL FOH. Ah yeees millions of people died in famines and were genocide by the British army and had $45 trillion stolen but hey the bri ish gave us trains 🥸 man are you serious or joking ? You think india couldn’t have gotten allat with $45 trillion? Do y’all think before you type ?\n\nAlso, bridges and roads aren’t a thing that Britain introduced to India 😂 let me loot your $10 million house but change a lightbulb for you then", "I didn’t ask again but thanks for the assumption", "I don't think India would have had a market for that \"45 trillion\" stolen. Who is going to build, grow, and buy those goods? Britian. Maybe the dutch. But Britain could embargo India to hell and back if they wanted. If they didn't get their cotten from india, they would have gotten it from Egypt or America.", "\"I know you are, I said you are, but what am I?\" \n\n\nStrong argument bro. Maybe work on improving yourself rather than blaming others (on a macro level, too).", "Man did you think india was one country 😂 there were different kingdoms in the landmass of India who traded with each other REGULARLY. Britain couldn’t afford shit before colonisation but they had guns. India didn’t need Britain , Britain needed india", "Yeah. And the Indians were too stupid to unite and fight against the British. It took britian kicking their ass to become a unified peoples. India was just a cog on the machine of a superpower. Just like china, africa, and the Americas. India should be considered lucky because it was the British that colonized them and not the Belgians.", "A cog? Is that why the moment india and Pakistan separated the British empire dissolved? LOL. And also the Indians were separate people then ffs. The British should be lucky that the Indians did not colonise them. The British were monsters and your sugar coating isn’t gonna help it. Cope", "India has a billion people and only ten percent of rapes are reported.", "Rape rate of us: 27.31 \n\nRape rate of india: 1.81 \n\nx10 of indias rape rate = 18.1 \n\nAnd that’s assuming ALL rape cases in us are reported \n\nSo there’s a lot more rape going on in the us FOR sure.\n\n[source ](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country)\n\nCheck yourself before you check others. Get your eyes off the news and into your books.", "Definitely in your sisters school shooting her on the face, she won't leave me alone for it. Talk about emission", "Why are all whites delusional that everyone wants em ? Ewwwwwwwwwwwww cringe. You’re worried about the wrong shooting Tommy", "lmao the gully 4673636 guys that are a big 150 CM and 60 kilos think white guys are cringe! Their girlfriends and sisters not so much though", "Projecting much ? Cringe westoid. No wonder everyone gets scared when you reach into your bag. You were bullied at school weren’t you", "Projecting what, you fucking dirt poor retard. Get out of the internet Cafe and get back to your customer service center. I need to waste your time while your clown ass girlfriend fucks up her buck teeth on my dick", "Calm down tommy. Don’t pull out the 9. You get 0 bitches white boy 😂 your wife gets fucked by Jamal when you’re out working as a plumber since you have a 2 inch destroyer 💀 fuck outta here 😆 broke boi. Your food stamps are waiting for you fuckhead", "Lol I bet you know all about food stamps while you eat bread and dry ass curry looooool", "you eat moldy cheese and rotten ham 😂 your mom was too busy getting fucked by Tyrone so she sent your musty ass to school on edibles. Broke boi", "Westoid 🤢🤮" ]	698	videos	Indian historian on hypocrisy of developed world on climate change and expectations from the developing countries including India and China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VyYNuZnIac	/r/videos/comments/r0bpzn/oblivion_npc_conversation/	[ "ok, so uk. so weirdly it's not only legal to park outside someones house, you can park on their drive! (for reals google it!) the only time the fuzz may get involved is if parking stops a vehicle exiting a drive .\n\ndropped curbs are only an observed convention, not a legal obligation to keep clear.", "see how youre following the camera - you see how the camera is moving somewhere and youre be attracted towards the camera -your body is being magnetically attracted to the camera that youre only verbally attempting to repel - do you notice the contradiction?", "\nDrive?\n\nThis looks like the sidewalk…\n\n\nBut thanks for the info, to me it looked like he parked like a cunt.", "\"haha I will make the music so loud you can't hear them talk! That's funny, right? RIGHT?!\"", "You seem awfully butt hurt about me pointing out this isn’t a legal way to park in the US.\n\n\nI hope your day gets better bud.", "Personally I’m amused that despite their extreme US trolling, they spelled fibre the American way.", "You're a thief, Harry", "You're breaking the camera", "You like stealing from work is so random, definitely an NPC who has knowledge of something else in the storyline", "Sir please stop pointing your face at my camera!", "Let’s discuss the contradiction", "_For the children_", "Da ferk did I just see? She's certainly not backwards in coming forwards", "At least it wasn't distorted, in an attempt to blow out my speakers", "There can be only one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKWHtNDGKU", "\"You like stealing from your workplace!\" says the person who obviously doesn't have a workplace.", "We had trump, but you had boris johnson\n\nSo in reality, we both lost\n\nYour economy enjoying being out of the EU? 😂", "This guy Wonder Showzens.", "When you miss the introduction to the current quest line and walk into the halfway point.", "Next time I'm losing an argument I'm just gonna accuse them of stealing from work.", "NEVER SHOULD'VE COME HERE", "While the technicalities of how a specific noise, like that of clipping/distortion, could or could not contribute to mechanical speaker failure are somewhat a topic of debate, one thing can that can be said with a high level of confidence is that clipping and distorted audio is only really at risk of blowing your speakers if your speakers are turned up too loud. Clipping/distorted audio is more or less just a shortcut to making the loudest sound the speaker can at the volume it is set to, if a speaker is set to a volume where 100% sound will break it then they speaker was set to an unreasonable volume setting. Especially considering such a setting is likely above the volume required to permanently damage your hearing even when the speaker is nowhere close to attempting the upper edges of that setting.\n\nIn other words, if bad memes are hurting your ears, your volume is too high.", "Never played Oblivion but I gotta say that -\n\n1. I learned a ton about this game from these videos\n2. These videos are the best things ever (other than Giovanni Georgio vids)", "Are you idiots seriously insulting each other under a meme video now?", "At least she’s finally getting some exercise", "Ah fuck, I forgot it wouldn't let me leave that quest item in my storage and I didn't quicksave before entering the area.", "It's a tough wank but I'll give it a go", "Unlike the cameraman, she doesn't steal from her workplace!", "I love this so much", "This is the most British thing I've ever read. It's adorable, and about as intimidating as a fat little squirrel giving you a good talking to while safe in his tree.", "Which word? Retard?", "Warning: Karen detected!", "I feel like this is some sort of demonic magic meant to enthrall the human race. I don't know why but I can't look away.", "Sometimes you have to set your volume unreasonably high to hear anything in YouTube videos. They claim they normalise the volume and maybe they do internally in each video, but they don't normalise them relative to each other, that's for sure.", "\"YOU BACK OFF!\"\n\nI have no idea why but the way she said that made me crack up.", "she 100% steals from the work.", "I did this intentionally in fallout 4 the other day. I found a terminal I couldn't get into to. Found out you need to come back much later in the game deep into that building again with the key for it after getting the quest. I was like, fuck that. I disabled the lock through the console, finished the building and got the quest item, and then the quest popped up. Yeah, it might mess stuff up later on, but it was a chance I was willing to take. I didn't wanna go running around that maze again.", "Challenging wank", "Like.. Oblivion..", "Won't argue with you there, I was mostly just arguing to hear myself type. Best practice in my opinion is to set the volume on the amp closest to the speakers in the chain (potentially on the speakers themselves) to the highest reasonable volume if the software volume was at 100, then turning the software volume back down to listenable levels. That way even if you set it to 100 by mistake/forgot you turned it up, you won't blow the hardware. This method doesn't protect your ears, but it does protect the speakers themselves. Then if anything isn't audible at that point even at 100, rather than ever touching the amps volume just using software to boost the volume.", "I was hoping battle music would start playing lol", "I can't help but feel this feed would be great for ESL learners. These people enunciate so clearly, and the subtitles don't hurt either.", "Oh how I would laugh at this.... If I did not still have to live on this isle of gogglebox watching mentally challenged shire folk", "Wait what the hell it’s a live broadcast?", "It totally something you'd see in Monty Phyton.", "BEAT KIDS!", "[Hell's Grannies](https://youtu.be/9_OIs49m56E)", "What is she doing?\n\nShe looked like she was looking for a hidden key and trying to get in the car, but that doesn't make sense.\n\nI do love it when people like this caught in an embarrassing situation right away and try to turn the tables and make wild accusations. It's like they're trying to justify their bad behaviour by labelling the other person \"bad\" somehow.", "Old slag needs to get put in the stocks so people can throw tomatoes at her", "When did DC make the Penguin Gender neutral?", "You're describing what those videos were literally made for.", "Pretty sure that's what it's meant for", "I think that was the original point of the video", "Probably suffering from early onset dementia, this kind of paranoia is a common symptom, you see it all the time in these kinds of videos. Usually it ends with them just being generally confused and angry over nothing at all. Funny for a bit but it's one of those things that when you notice it, you can't really laugh at this stuff any more, it's just sad.", "Probably has delusions, think they are hiding things from her. \n\nWe need laws to handle with these mentally unwell people, they’re like animals with rabies. Need professionals with the giant butter fly net catching them lol.", "Was working at Radio Shack once and somebody went into the backroom and when I walked back he immediately said \"I'm not stealin' nothin'!\" Ah, the inexperienced thief.", "someone call?", "Sounds like you enjoy stealing from your workplace, do you?", "This is what happens when someone steals your sweet roll.", "This is now my Favorite thing!", "You're a bully!", "What do you mean? I could hear them just fine.", "That was disappointing", "What are you running away from?!", "Old Austin was so much better", "I couldn't find the video in normal locations, seems like has been removed, found it on world star hiphop of all places though. https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhR4A23dnRIG3B0gX8", "When the packaging makes the ugly product beautiful 😂", "The more I watched it the more I'm convinced that's the exact purpose of those videos. They use really simple vocabulary, and the one time they didn't (the man used the word \"swear\"), the narrator said \"Swear? How did he swear?\" And the man stood up and acted out putting his hand on a book and reciting lines about telling the truth. This is language learning 101. If that is the goal, some of the scenes could use with a bit more visual aid, but overall pretty good for an intermediate/low language student.", "It looked like the van was parked on the curb / sidewalk in front of her house. Seems to me like that's what set her off. Though he mentions she's attacked the van before....", "it ain't the usa , so sorry that breaks your brain.", "Mesmerizing", "Mesmerizing", "Good things he's cheesing her with beck pedals. Definitely underdeveled for this mob", "Look, I get that you’re not the smartest peanut in the turd, but even you my point of not knowing this type of parking was legal in the UK should have been pretty clear.\n\nAgain, very sorry that was beyond you, and you’re still laboring under the assumption I didn’t know what country it was in.\n\nNow, chip chip cheerio, mate.", "She reminds me of Daisy from Keeping Up Appearances", "Then the guy you’re grouped with hauls off and kills them. You’re upset bcs now quest is broken but they loot something cool.", "haha this meme is fucking hilarious. ohh and the music... i can almost smell the side quest!!!", "nice", "Are you seriously insulting these idiots who are insulting each other under a meme video?", "[I still had the streamable link bookmarked.](https://streamable.com/59t0)", "I just Wana suck on dem titties", "Why. Won't. You. DIE!", "Seen this video a few times and hadn't considered this angle, and damn if it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Sad to consider.", "u/savevideobot", "[Stop! You violated the law!](https://youtu.be/_XR6dsy7ATE)", "Very typical English neighbour (seriously). Americans will never understand this video. She's having a laugh, but also making sure (with no legal force behind it) that the postal workman who lives near her will decide not to use the space by her house as his parking space anymore. Once you say anything besides 'good morning' you've already broken a serious rule of etiquette.\n\n&nbsp;\n\n[edit: to the downvoters, I dedicate the link to today's Daily Mail article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10235201/Pictured-Ex-soldier-arrested-murdering-married-couple-door-amid-bitter-parking-row.html]", "Ah...the old times of working at RadioShack. Glad to see you made it through all those post-paid phone sales.", "Fuck what this city has become. \n\nLet's go get matching PuppeTose tattoos and cry about Liberty Lunch, you down?", "Down I’ll bring the thundercloud and rolling rock", "omg I was going to keep watching till the end, until I just read your comment.", "I think the music alone is enough to make me realize why I liked Oblivion more than Skyrim", "I wonder if the guy won a lawsuit against them because the original didn't blur his face.", "I know right? It is hypnotic. Simple plot, little conflict, mundane life.", "Yes", "Jag-you-wah", "\"youre breaking the camera\" always gets me", "The DVD cover had a [giant real puppet man bush on it.](http://images.45worlds.com/f/dv/wonder-showzen-season-one-2-dv.jpg)", "Seven and a switchblade!", "Who doesn’t love stealing from work? That’s the question.", "\"We believe of others what we know of ourselves\"", "Did that dude actually say, \"I wish we had a big color tv.\" What is this the 1980's?", "And a pickpocket!", "Is that man stuck in Hell doing this live forever?", "Testing whether all the doors are locked, and then checking for a key (in some places it's common for people to leave a key hidden on the tyre up inside the wheel arch when they're leaving the vehicle briefly or when someone else is going to come and collect it). Dunno why she was trying to get into the vehicle but she was very defensive when called on it.", "Says the person advancing threateningly towards a random stranger while hurling unfounded accusations and insults at them.", "Sounds like somebody who goes to the cloud district often.", "Early onset dementia: funny for a bit.", "Mundane my ass! Dude just inherited over a million dollars from an aunt he barely knew.", "It's literally just the English version of those videos you would watch in class while learning a foreign language", "Someone stuck their dick in that.", "I'm English and... no, this is not normal or acceptable behaviour. Advancing on someone like that while making accusations and throwing insults is not \"having a laugh\", and not a justified response to someone \"saying anything besides 'good morning'\" - and to be fair, he wasn't just being overly forward, he was asking why she was trying to get into a vehicle that is clearly not hers, which is a valid thing to ask.", "I picked up a random book in Skyrim while out exploring. Then got a quest to get the book. Can't complete the quest because it's to get the book, not have the book. Can't drop the book because it's an important quest item.\n\nI had to finish the game with that quest incomplete. Feels bad.", "A guy I work with did that with Fallout 3. Accidentally found Liam Neeson early and missed all the radio stuff.", "\"Lady, I'm doing nothing but backing off\"", "We don’t speak of the dark ages.", "\"You back off!\" \nShe says while continuing to approach the guy as he backs off", "British women yelling at workers in an Oblivion voice is becoming a subgenre\n&nbsp;\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXqWdtsFqsc", "We don't know, it's a live stream so we didn't see the part you saw. I saw them come home from shopping. Looks pretty 80s to me though.", "Honestly has a single city in America gotten better in the last 20 years?", "Keep your hands to yourself, sneak thief!", "Yes absolutely", "SHOULDVE NEVER COME HERE", "Could be, my step dad got Lewy body dementia and we had an entire year of accusations of Russian spies (mostly the neighbours) and shouting at the postie.", "> Was working at Radio Shack once \n\nMy deepest condolences.", "Confession through projection", "Until you forget.", "A YouTube video, stolen and put on to tiktok, only to be stolen again and posted on YouTube, to then be posted on Reddit.", "oblivion npc conversation format is so crazy to me. the format has been around more than 5 years now on youtube and videos like this are getting tens of millions of views in just over a year. \n\ni cant put my finger on it but this format seems to be riddled with bots", "#HANDS OFF!", "The way she says \"Right! I'll speak to her then\" is so robotic lol", "you forfeit privacy when in public places, unfortunately.", "There's definitely a console command to \"complete quest x\" I'm sure\n\nwrite setstage [quest ID] 200", "The end arrives when Dagon comes in and gifts them a wooden turtle figurine.", "Pavement.\n\nHow’s the Royal Mail van parked like a cunt? It’s not across someone’s dropped curb and there’s no yellow lines? The Royal Mail van probably won’t be there too long as it’s delivering parcels then it’s off.", "Pretty sure Royal Mail posties don’t keep the vans by their homes but they’re stored in the distribution depot.", "These people need a reality check. Imagine being a 65 year old fat woman and thinking you can actually bully a bigger and younger man. Brave.", "[When you just have to murder a choir](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvWg_Yikxs)", "Damn, I just missed it! Did he get a Jaguar?", "This happened to me in Portal 2. There's a part where you can double (maybe triple) teleport/jump up to a walkway and finish the level. At the start of the next one I had this potato computer talking to me and I didn't know why. Turns out I wasn't supposed to do that jump. There was more to do in that level.", "This is actually the most oblivion NPC video of all the NPC videos ive ever seen. The way she walks with the cane towards you screaming \"Theif!\"", "Mental illness is not funny.", "It’s not much but it’s honest work", "Yeah, I thought it was a good touch for making a joke on that, made me laugh", "When I tuned in 29 minutes after you and after reading that whatever this was was live, the first thing that showed up was sad music and the view from the back of some poor man dangling from the roof of a house with his ladder having apparently fallen. It was like that for a good 20s and for a while I really thought it was a live broadcast of some guy about to die and no one doing anything about except putting tragic music over the top and livestreaming it. I was so relieved when it cut to another skit and it was apparently some weird old bawdy 80s/90s slapstick thing dubbed over with I'll fitting but strangely poignant music.\n\nWhat a rollercoaster. Watched through quite a bit of it with that sad music and vocals playing the whole way through thinking how sad this character's life is.", "Turn your camera.", "Jesus fucking Christ. ‘Like animals with rabies’. No they’re fucking not. They’re people.", "Bonk! Go to /r/hornyjail", "[When Deutchshe Welle made a learn German video series where Harry is trapped in Groundhog Day and ends up in a political thriller/psychiatric horror hospital](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wAZG4LWLWI&list=PLs7zUO7VPyJ6Ufol7Z4FfkCviaETvl3c8)\n\nEven just watching the intro video is popcorn insanity entertaining.", "Not on the Xbox 360, there wasn't.\n\nTo be fair, it crashed so much that a broken side quest felt like luxury. At least it wasn't for something important, like when I got jailed and an important item was removed from my bags, meaning I had to revert to an earlier save...", "She seems well", "If you call state benefits work, sure.", "Amazing tater tots.", "I love people who take issue with being filmed and yet cannot do anything but put themselves in front of the camera.\n\nNEWS FUCKING FLASH the camera cant film you if you dont walk up to it!", "It’s a Royal Mail van. She’s trying to break in to steal packages from it. That’s why she goes to calling him a thief randomly\n\nI’m a projection expert", "You remind me of my cousin's cat. Killed that too!", "What the fuck", "Keep us updated", "Happend to see the part where the narrator asks \"How long have you ridden a unicycle for?\" \"I've been riding a unicycle for 15 years\" followed by \"When did you start riding a unicycle?\" \"I started riding a unicycle in 1972.\".\n\nSo I guess it is from 1987.", "Kick the cunt in her gunt.", "What a dummy. I don't like stealing from my workplace; it's more like a compulsion. I need help, not criticism. Also, do you want some binder clips? I have boxes of the things.", "Then it's funny all over again!", "I've been playing Divinity Original Sin 2 and this is breaking my mind.", "Wu-Tang!", "It very clearly can be.", "I had an argument with someone on reddit once and they eventually accused me of going through a divorce (I've never been married), just randomly. Probably some major projection or something.", "I feel horrible for not only knowing the OPs video before opening it, but also knowing this reference. What am I doing with my life, and whyyy?", "That's very sad and I hope you get the help you need and yes I could use some binder clips.", "It's always live. Always has been.", "So was he stealing from work or not?/mild humor", "when the AI is doing it's best.", "And a bully!", "The guy said it was his son's car.", ">to park over somebodies drive\n\nIDK what it is about the UK and people not being able to get into their driveway when someone is parked within 2 meters of the opening, makes people real hostile.", "I remember, way back in the day, someone wrote this fucking novel of a blog iterating their experience working at Radio Shack.\n\nThis was late Radio Shack, the how-are-there-so-many-Radio-Shacks phase when everyone knew nobody was going to Radio Shack.\n\nI just remember it was insane story with terrible bosses who forced employees to pretend it was a functioning business, a corporate wasteland that seemed both unable to accept the state of things and unwilling to change anything.\n\nHadn't thought about that guys story in years. So, thanks for memories I guess.\n\nEdit: u/tcinternet dug up the [piece](https://www.sbnation.com/2014/11/26/7281129/radioshack-eulogy-stories)", "Yeah this. It's been a while since I've had my abnormal psychology courses, but this reminds me very much of schizophrenic behaviour alright. She is in the risk age for those kind of disorders, at least for females. Signs of neglecting personal care, cognitive lower functioning and pretty much instantly going into stress response mode.\n\nI hope it's not that though, wouldn't wish that shit on my worst enemies. Especially for older women the outlook with schizophrenia is bad. Usually it only get's worse with age, sometimes if they are lucky it stabilizes. Cases of old women recovering, especially without treatment, are very very rare.", "“Normalize relative to each other”\n\nThis isn’t a thing. Normalizing is a simple audio process that boosts all audio levels in a audio clip until the highest peak hits 0, meaning it’s the loudest it can be without clipping. Generally this works to get audio to a standard level of loudness, but if you have one loud audio spike and the rest of your audio clip is super quiet compared to that one spike, you’ll still have quiet audio. \n\nTo achieve audio that all has the same apparent loudness you would need to add audio compression to all of them to bring down all of these loudest spikes. But to my knowledge of current technology, that can’t really be done in an automated way without risking severe quality reductions to the audio quality of some clips.", "Austin", "So he's not following and filming her and then confronting her? She doesn't walk out of sight, but for the fact that he follows her around a corner?\n\nI'm asking since you're the one giving news flashes to the rest of us today and I'm a bit confused.", "[\"Let's discuss the contradiction!\"](https://vimeo.com/196937578)", "This feels like a fucking fever dream.", "Yes us Americans don’t understand neighbors am I right fellow Americans?! Right?!", " At the end, they were spending more money on their own television studio to produce their mandatory training videos on how to sell cellphones than they were on any sort of product expansion to stave off the inevitable.\n\nRadio Shack was killed from the inside, and probably by design.\n\nIt really is truly sad, as ubiquitous modern computing owes more to Radio Shack and the Tandy brand than is generally spoken about.", "This could have been layered over a cinematic from Kingdome Come Deliverance and i'd have 100% not noticed it", "Classic Tucker Carlson", "Ah, the rare scumbag double negative showing his true intent. \n\nI am not stealing nothing = I am stealing something.", "This is the best one of those videos I've seen. Her hand gestures even reek of NPC, lol.", "Wasn't this staged?", "There's no way this woman is well, I'm surprised it's not obvious to folk.", "Yeah that’s because this one is staged unfortunately", "The rhombus of life.", "I like that he uses the person's own verbal typo \"I'm begging you nicely\" back at him.", "A bug like this is the reason I never finished Skyrim. Couldn't finish the Thieves Guild quest line because I broke into Honningbrew Meadery at the very start of my playthrough. I can't remember the details, but there was a door I couldn't get through. I was so annoyed that I couldn't complete the quests I actually wanted to, that I just stopped playing altogether. Never touched it since. That was like 8 years ago.", "It's definitely a Royal Mail van. So I assume his son is a postman... Possibly named Pat.", "Your problem was playing a Bethesda game on a console. Everyone knows Bethesda games are so jank busted that it takes thousands of modders to fix the innumerable issues. Bethesda doesn't give a shit anymore because 1) they say \"Fuck console users\" I guess, and 2) \"The modders will fix our game and give it another 10 years of life support so we can keep selling the same pile of shit for a decade\"", "I’m assuming she has mental issues.\n\nProbably goes around vandalising cars for some perceived slight. The bloke videoing says she tore things off his sons car so I’m guessing she does that to any cars parked near her property.\n\nI’ve had an older woman act very similarly aggressive to me and a couple of random people on public transport. She was making a big gesture of looking at us and writing things in a notepad then shouting at people who looked at her confused. My guess was she was paranoid people were following her or something and taking descriptions.\n\nI’d say this woman has probably decided the entire area near her house is hers and she’s justified in trashing cars that park in “her” area?", "Royal mail, son's car. She was fucking with a king?", "STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!", "That's amazing.", "Can't wait to count your coin!", "reminds me of wonder showzen\n\n“but you’re walking towards the camera”", "If someone is parked up on a curb like that in the US, it’s generally means they drove up on a sidewalk, and are almost always parking illegally.", "Play it. It’s a masterpiece.", "Please I need more of these I can't stop", "Did you know you can get four packs of batteries for $10", "RIP Sean", "Not to correct you, but I feel like this lady is the projection expert", "Oh, Bethesda love console users.\n\nHow else would they sell all the super special remastered 20th anniversary editions with all the exact same bugs they remember from the original?", "All British people are trained Shakespearean actors right out of the womb.", "Rather “staged videos uploaded to ‘on the job’ humour Facebook groups” sub genre", "Yup, classic example of projection.", "You can do this accidentally in Fallout 3 by finding Tranquility Lane just wandering around and skipping a couple hours of main quest line. No cheats required.", "This video smells like boiled eggs and mayo.", "She then calls HIM a bully, at which point I totally lost it. What a fucking nutcase.", "I bet he's a pet owner, too.", "Amazing quality video for an early 1970's TV broadcast", "\"Kill Jester\"", "Same here. But its totally understandable because npc:s in similar games behave the same and its that calm nice music in the backyard. They try to be humanlike but their a little bit off. I Love it", "Having mental health crisis.", "I'll take that particular hell when my time comes, please", "I actually used that to learn German, it was very entertaining and very good way of learning. Unfortunately they used Flash for the animation, and Flash has been deprecated in Chrome, I'm very sad.", "Imagine if like in skyrim where you could wander into the underdark by going deeper into caves, you could wander into The Institute.\n\nAlso, I've always wondered what it was like at MIT when Fo4 came out. I would have referred to it at The Institute for awhile", "Is there an abundance of lead pipes in the UK?", "Was it for McCreadys quest in that chemical building full of gunners? He was bugged and never gave me the key on console so if that was the quest, then you may have needed the console command anyway lol", "You talking about [this piece](https://www.sbnation.com/2014/11/26/7281129/radioshack-eulogy-stories) by Jon Bois? That was a masterpiece.\n\nHe mostly does video work now for a site called Secret Base. His history of the Seattle Mariners and the Atlanta Falcons videos are amazing.", "Dude, this is a person who is unwell, not a rabid dog.", "I think she thinks he's a postman, a lot of people seem to think postman are thieves when their parcel went missing", "Plus I think it's not uncommon for people to get into the games on console, so we all have to learn our own way. I started out with Oblivion on the 360 so naturally when Skyrim came out on the 360 I played it on that until I eventually got a PC so I had modding capabilities.", "https://vimeo.com/196937578", "The title of the stream is \"At Home With English\" so congrats on cracking the code haha.", "Reddit is the China of the content world. Intellectual property? is that a dessert?", "They resold it with a few mods bundled in, which they scraped more money from...", "one of us\n\none of us\n\none of us", "Die N'wah!!!", "It’s HIS van though…she tried to open HIS door.", "There it is. Always scroll to find it on these videos, never dissapointed.", "Yeah, it was that. This is my second playthough. I totally forgot about his quest. So I'm not sure how long it would have taken till he asked me to do it. Regardless I have the quest to talk to him now that I have the syringe. I played it when I came out but no where near completion. Playing it again now that I have a good computer and can use high res mods and ultra settings", "Oh I think I'm on his side overall, but given that he films her, confronts her and he does so in a narrow sidewalk instead of the wide street? \n\nHe's not making it easy to be.\n\nAnyway, it was just a point about how she was being confronted, then turned around and addressed the person confronting her. Most people being filmed and asked questions aren't just going to keep walking, especially in front of HER house (big pronouns mean big point I guess).", "I watched that for way too long", "Timeless classic", "I'm taking you dead or alive package thief! I'd prefer dead...", "Nothing like hounding people to change their long distance phone provider", "Which?", "Well, he said that she had attacked his son's car, that doesn't mean this was his car, or in this case it would be a work vehicle.", "I have a mental illness and I quite often laugh at the shit my brain comes up with", "Did you get that from the title?", "She was just checking the security of the vehicle. People leave spare keys on top of tires, in wheel wells, bumpers, and/or leave doors unlocked.", "Me? I don't?", "Recent playthrough, I decided to kill Telrav before he could make it to his camp. Then killed all his buddies. Now I'm stuck with a \"Follow Telrav to his camp\" quest that I can never finish. Worth it.", "Fuck yeah that's the one! Great read.", "I love that video do much", "I’ve fought Mudcrabs more fearsome than her!", "To this day one of my favourite videos", "It brought me DOS2 vibes as well! If you're on your first playthrough I envy you sooo much! I wish I had any more reruns in me, but I've replayed it enough times already. Enjoy it!", "Is anyone else tired of having to be the bigger person. I am honestly sick of these people. I don't care what their mental health state is anymore, just crack em in the head and let everyone move on. I am so fed up with these creatures holding society back.", "Are you quite legal?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3J8FYKZ52w", "I definitely remember them getting James Doohan for a super-awkward Star Trek \"skit\"", "Just like in uhh... Elder Scrolls??!?", "Narrow British streets mean that parking partly on the kerb is pretty common, and often the lesser evil.", "\"Curse my informal grammar education!\" holds out hands awkwardly to be cuffed", "\"Never should have came here!\"", "clarence is the best", "If someone approaches you threateningly and says, groundlessly, \"You're a thief!\" You should always quickly reply, \"Well, YOU are a murderer!\"", "\"You're a bully, you're a thief, you like stealing from your workplace, you poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses\"\n\n\"I did?\"\n\n\"No, but I'm not just gonna wait around until you do.\"", "What in the fuck... the BBC did this?\n\n\"Kill Jester\" LMAO.", "I think she must have took an arrow to the knee", "Why is \"doubling down\" such a universal human response when it has such an abysmal success rate? Why is this an apparently evolutionarily derived response when it provides no additional assistance in arriving at truth and does not deescalate conflict? You would assume that such behavior would be harmful to reproductive fitness... And yet the ubiquity of the response suggests exactly the opposite: that, apparently, doubling down is so effective that nearly every human on Earth has inherited this trait from their ancestors, and there have been no significant selective pressures exerted to remove it. I'm baffled.", "Proper AI.", "Cedar Park Texas has been on the up and up. It’s no longer really barren and useless as before", "That’s what someone with a lot of hi-lighter pens at home would say.", "You know what? You sound like somebody that steals from their workplace.", "What, really?", "Wondershozen is a gift to humanity.", "Yeah. And the thing about early onset dementia is that it's funny for a bit.", "the escalating music is so good", "No don't have the argument they want to have, have the argument you want \"you're a thief\".\n\n\"Gimmee back my sweater! I said you could borrow it not have it!\"", "Well divorce basically means to separate as it can be used in a way divorced from marriage.... \n\nOn that thought you could insult someone by saying they are \"divorced from reality.\" Which is a phrase I think I like the sound of.", "I’m saying he can’t be “following” her, if he’s walking to his van. She tries to invade his property then his personal space. She could have fucked off at any point. You say you’re on the guys side, yet spend a lot of time defending this hag.", "But this seems like such a perfect mission for The Witcher.", "You can see her tiny brain working overtime in the first bit. Just stands there with a stupid look on her face feverishly thinking what to say.", "if you call someone divorced, theres only one way to take that, barring specific context", "This usually was not my experience with fallout 4. Typically I would clear a building, open the chest at the end and grab the loot, then later find a quest that would force me to clear the same building, open the same chest I already checked, and only then would the quest item be there. Very frustrating. I'd much prefer to already have the item and then when the NPC asks for it, just be like, \"Here you go.\" Rather than having to clear the same building multiple times with respawned enemies.", "*Shows battery club membership card. \n\n\nNeed I say more?", "For sure, I'm just stoned and commenting my thought process. \n\nNot trying to say that the person who called \"OP\" divorced meant that.", "I had to go to archive.org to dig it up, but: \n\n“Created as an On The Tools original piece, this video went well and truly viral. Filmed in a user-generated style, people did cotton on to the fact that the footage was staged, however, this didn’t take anything away from the video’s success. Viewed over 8.8 million times, it was highly relatable and the comments were full of people talking about how they’d had similar experiences. Hopefully, they weren’t as extreme as this one though!”", "stop pointing your face at my camera", "bro same O\\_O", "\nHere's an interview with him years later that sheds a little more insight on the videos: https://youtu.be/-kgD2SZmL78", "I see the UK has severe mental health crisis just like the USA.", "\nHere's an interview with him years later that sheds a little more insight on the videos: https://youtu.be/-kgD2SZmL78", "She's looking for a key to likely move it. Basically she hates her neighbour parking in front of her brick wall. the guy has parked in front of her house but there are no yellow lines so he has every right to park there.", "I went back into vault 111 yesterday to grab the Cryo gun and it don't say [CLEARED] under its name. So I ran through the whole thing and didn't find anything I haven't opened... That was annoying", "If you don't want to be confronted, don't fuck with other people's property", "And my axe", "I actually love how he starts talking to the puppet as he gets more riled up.", "I don't know what relevance your post has to do with this clip.", "When I started watching it was on the oblivion menu", "Fan tas tic", "Original video: https://redd.it/hzzvhq\n\nThis is part 2, part 1 (not seen here) is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/i00pb4/what_happened_before_british_karen_got_caught/", "Good voice acting", "I would vote for a party that would massacre them all. I had hoped COVID to kill more of them.", "I never tire of these.", "> hag\n\nLet me just promise you right now, if I could see you, I'm sure we'd both agree that you're no prize.", "Call the judge n get some fudge!", "Why do people not just stand there ground and get loud. She backs down every time if you match or raise her intensity.", "But let's discuss the contradiction", "This is amazing", "Kids on the beat, kids on the street, beat kids!", "You’re probably right, but it takes more than looks to be a hag.", "Cushing Syndrome...", "Tis true", "Awesome to hear people are still playing it! I had never played an elder scrolls or fallout game before 4 and it was an absolute blast (despite how people seem to shit on it a bit online). Only shame was a few bugs like the McCready quest. However I did get another bug where Preston never did the annoying settlement stuff for me but maybe it's because I recruited him as a follower when I was like 80% done with the game 😂 Enjoy your playthrough, there's so much to explore and do", "God I wanna go play some elder scrolls now. Well done.", "Also, “Don’t tell ME what to do… I’LL… tell YOU what to do!”", "My guess is she's schizophrenic and believes the man who drives the van is Gangstalking her.", "And you steal from work!", "They also use multiple tenses each time", "Imagine if society didn't have to grind to a halt at every attempt at progress to drag these children forward kicking and screaming. Like this guy could be able to exist daily without this completely useless waste of carbon around. That cave troll serves zero purpose in society in any way. They are a net loss to humanity that does nothing but take away. The worst part is that they vote!!!!", "I don't like that clip, for me, intentionally pissing random people off isn't comedy. I've never seen any build up to the clip, whether the person is someone in particular. Perhaps someone could shed some light. \n\nBut the guy just wants the camera out of his face. The 'comedian' backs off keeping the camera his face. Then makes out the camera wouldn't be pointed at him if he stopped following, which patently isn't true. \n\nI feel pissed off for the guy every time.", "Ye but that was voice acted too, didn't really happen.", "FO3 accounts for that. If you go back to do the radio quest after learning where your dad is you get a different reward.", "holy fucking fuck this is fucking funny", "brown dog?", "Confronts her in a narrow sidewalk?\n\nHe didn't speak up until SHE was out in the open on the street and he was on the sidewalk, with the car between them. If anything, he put himself in a vulnerable position when he got her attention while simultaneously giving her as much security as possible. SHE approached him.", "[Copyright Infringement](https://youtu.be/dMsRMcqQ6Is) doesn't translate very well into Mandarin", "Lol. I forgot about that.", "\"I've fought Mud Crabs more fearsome than you!\"", "Goodness you’re a fucking animal.", "Fine. Off to Dzonot cave it is then!", "You’re breaking the camera with your face.", "She looks like the [old lady](https://imgur.com/a/loCqVrw) from Dawn of the Dead", "Everyone always acts as if democracy is a good thing; it's not. \n\nWhat you want is a society consisting of highly educated people that can determine when their government isn't functioning and, if it becomes too bad, say \"Fuck it, I will run for public office\". \n\nWhat you don't want is people with an IQ below 100 in the parliament. \n\n\"Sure, it's very nice for you that you got elected, but let's be honest Mr. Doofus, you don't belong here.\"\n\nI live in a Western country, but no publicly managed system works.", "I do like stealing from my workplace.", "https://youtu.be/-kgD2SZmL78?t=104", "and he is coming for you https://youtu.be/-kgD2SZmL78?t=104", "that is what he wants.. then.. https://youtu.be/-kgD2SZmL78?t=104", "Sometimes people on Reddit are so goddamn oblivious, it's hilarious", "Wow. That was perfect.", "It’s too late, I make the laws and I’ve marked all people like this animals. \n\nOh wait it’s just some joke opinion on Reddit by someone who doesn’t control shit.", ">we can keep selling the same pile of shit for a decade\n\nsame pile of shit with 10% less bugs (and maybe a couple of new ones so that savvy adventuers and once again have the 'fresh skyrim experience')", "\"I used to be an adventurer like you, until I took a Bethesda to the wrist...\"", "360 oblivion is the only one i 100%d... we had the PC version first but the only computer i knew of that could play it was my mums work laptop so i barely got out of the sewers (which was fine; i was busy constantly restarting morrowind trying to find the most efficient path of stealing my way to godhood)", "Oh damn i'm super sad now", "Damn I didn't even read the title lol yeah that would've given it away, eh? Good call haha", "This is the best one.", "Hmm, yes that is a hole in my reasoning. I wonder why the postie though says the woman had damaged his son's car earlier?", "That…explains so much.\n\nWatching this dude grocery shop with the most blasé wife being like “hey can you get a cart next time so your arms don’t die holding that basket?” is a type of comedy I didn’t know I needed in my life.", "Like an animal. So if someone said “I’m like a cheeta I’m so fast” or “I’m an animal in bed.”\nDo you just have to run up and start screaming “ You’re not an animal!! Jesus Christ!! Omg no you’re a person!\n\nNo shit she’s a person. She’s a person acting like how animals with rabies act. \n\nAggressive, delusional, detached from reality, paranoia, fear anxiety and aggression. \n\nGet your high horse off the soap box in your ivory tower.", "In all honestly this is kinda similar to the sorta shit Scientologist a do during confrontations.", "Omg lol wtf is this", "yes 100%, i abjectly apologize for the use of the word, not for intent but for unintended attribution", "meh, spellcheck", "plainly you acknowledge you were mistaken and ignorant of pertinent facts, i'm gracious enough that if you feel the need to save face by blustering, that it's fine y'all", ">I’m assuming she has mental issues.\n\n\n\n\nBold take lol. Lady's nuts.", "‘Your back off! Your a bully! Your a thief!’\n\nHonestly this is some oblivion NPC in real life if I have ever heard it. Although the oblivion AI was more intelligent than this dumb old cow.", "It's Patguin", "STOP FILMING ME the person yells while following the camera around expecting to not be on camera", "RIP Sean Lock you magnificent bastard.", "The street in the back kinda looks like privet drive", "I watch this every other day, it'd be nice if it took off. Check out r/Gregorians", "Yeah we actually really do. Understaffed mental health units mean people are out who shouldn't be out and left to deal with by understaffed nurses who visit their homes until they commit a crime at which point the understaffed police have to find something to do with them.", "Nah, more of a cat guy, I suspect.\n\n\n\nPerhaps into amateur ballooning too? I know the type.", "I see you've met my mother in law.", "You're not a lawyer, that much is clear.", "?", "You didn't know you're not a lawyer?", "??", "This is why I only play Bethesda games on PC. When a quest inevitably breaks you can fix it with a console command. In Skyrim the Mage Guild questline broke when the quest giver didn't give me the magic staff I needed for the quest. A console command that put the staff in my inventory fixed that right up.", "Apology accepted.", "I did pretty good in guessing the timeline then.", "Do you often get stuck watching videos on youtube?" ]	372	videos	Oblivion NPC Conversation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APq_Y2vqjC0	/r/videos/comments/r0da74/childish_gambino_dancing_to_all_i_want_for/	[ "why not wear a shirt?", "You wear a shirt when you dance to Mariah?", "r/gifsthatendtoosoon", "I think it's the perfect length (keeps you wanting more) but [there is a full version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VchkToI4CG0&t=0s).", "I usually wear an ugly sweater or shirt that is busy with Christmas stuff.", "Lol thanks. I agree the shorter one is better for getting a quick giggle.", "mf just whipped to mariah" ]	7	videos	Childish Gambino Dancing to all I want for Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtswU-tBq6g	/r/videos/comments/r0djou/a_scene_that_was_cut_from_the_original_justice/	[ "There is one in every Micheal Bay movie......wait..", "Seatbelts, people!", "\"dude without shoes steals a woman out of the air? can't have that.\"", "Wow. Awesome", "She's still concussed.", "This is what I loved about Eternals. The speedster in that was amazing. We saw her just blazing around, especially when she lit up the end \"boss\". I don't understand why so many people these days want to show us speedsters in slo mo now. It's done. And honestly, going even slower for a speedster scene is crazy to me." ]	6	videos	A scene that was cut from the original Justice League movie - the Flash saving Iris from a car crash. Possibly the most beautiful scene from a superhero movie ever created.
https://youtu.be/PYRxqKhNUUA	/r/videos/comments/r0dm68/surprisingly_accurate/	[ "Pretty sure they're the same age as the rest of me.", "Off by about 15 years for me.", "46 it disappeared at I'm 58, that surprised me so I did it again with eyes closed and clicked stop at 46.", "Disappeared at 35 for me and I’m 31", "Surprisingly inaccurate.", "Started getting hard to hear in the 20s, but I heard it all the way to the end. I have freakishly good hearing. I'm 43.", "The ringing from tinnitus takes over", "Ten years older than the rest of me, according to that. (But then, my laptop speakers might also be a factor?)" ]	8	videos	Surprisingly Accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFBx3qYGxL8	/r/videos/comments/r0ezpe/cab_calloway_st_james_infirmary_blues_betty_boop/	[ "If you like this song, check out Danny Barker's version: he does all these funny asides and things all through it, and it's just great all around. My favorite version, actually. It's off his album \"Save the Bones\". \n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hek2KQcD8\\_M", "My first experience with this cartoon was with Ghostmane’s “Mercury” to the point that this is eery and it isn’t.", "video isn't available anymore.", "Is there an uncropped version of this, or is it lost? \n\nIt always seems to me to have cut the top/bottom off (e.g., when the coffin slides down the hill there's something going on just off screen)", "Hmm, coming up for me. Try this link: \n\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Hek2KQcD8\\_M", "Can someone else check? I'm getting nothing.", "Unavailable for me as well.", "Here's one that works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN1f9LFd54U", "Always been fond of the \"Devil Makes Three\" version\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3stQjtO\\_r0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3stQjtO_r0)", "Reddit mangles links with underscores.", "Always dug this remix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bgsmdMrwzw", "They animated it by rotoscoping Cab Calloway so ghost clown was always gonna have swagger", "clasico", "Thank!", "I don't think there is another version showing more. [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-6_EBw6T8) has the intro and it seems to be the full picture. It may have been cropped a bit when originally put together.\n\nWhen it's sledding down the hill, it looks like the flower pot falls off of the coffin and then grows hands to push itself back on the coffin.", "Yes, that's a comment on the video", "Nailed them. No recovery possible. Well done. Wow", "I like the Ghostemane version better:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/31j4DIpgY9U", "https://youtu.be/Hek2KQcD8_M\n\nFixed link without the backslash.\n\nUse a better Reddit app.", "Dave van ronk has a killer version too.", "I don't think this has ever been bested", "I think this is a front runner for one of the first music videos.", "That very authentic dancing was drawn using a process invented by the Fleischer Brothers called rotoscoping, still used to this day. \n\nIn many, many ways, the Fleischers were more talented than Disney, but he had better writers, and a strong partner in RKO.", "Love how you can recognize Cab Calloway dancing even through the cartoon.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ5gCGJorKk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ5gCGJorKk)\n\nObligatory \"Minnie the Moocher\" from The Blues Brothers", "> RKO\n\nOut of nowhere!", "My favorite cartoon growing up. I'm so in love with it.", "I hope they can get back on the road soon. So much fun live.", "He's slithering like a snake!", "Shia Labeouf", "Ask him if he gives a fuck about a clique.", "I knew a hooker named Minnie Mazola!", "[Funny you mention that since i literally just got done watching a video about their Superman Cartoon, which they invented Rotoscoping for] (https://youtu.be/dDMQ3tXNKgM)", "in the episode. Cab also voiced the mirror.", "That one's solid! I'm a huge fan of Hugh Laurie's version. Summertime instrumental opening that slides into St. James Infirmary. https://youtu.be/AzEBH6DZJVk", "Obligatory \"Minnie the Moocher\" featuring Betty Boop in a similar style.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHqjMhD04uA", "So Cab was actually performing this live and they did the animation over him? Swee", "I saw this on TCM many years back and it blew my mind. Pay close attention to all the matte paintings in the background. They’re as spooky and fucked up as anything happening in the foreground with Koko the Clown.", "Imagine being a person who enjoys that edgelord’s version of anything better", "Rather than watching Betty Boop and co, here's the man himself singing it live. What a nut., RIP you mad genius.\n\n[https://youtu.be/EcXSbCXxGzw](https://youtu.be/EcXSbCXxGzw)\n\nAs a side note, the slowed down Count Basie and Dizzy Gillespie interpretation from 1977 is utterly sublime. Ray Brown's bass solo gives me chills.\n\n[https://youtu.be/me\\_7MvpHm2w](https://youtu.be/me_7MvpHm2w)", "Thanks, I just figured out what I'm doing today!", "That was horrible", "Devil Makes Three has a [pretty amazing cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3stQjtO_r0&ab_channel=kellee) of this song", "Same", "Cab Calloway was so innovative and influential it's a real shame more people don't really see it. I think the fact that he would try things like animation and just generally ham it up and have fun did him a disservice because \"serious\" people didn't want to take him seriously. He really deserves to be up there with all the other big names from the era.", "It fits the video better than the actual music imo", "You went down a rabbit hole didn't you", "Nah I remember seeing this video ages ago and Thought it was incredible, After Kristian uploaded again decided to go back and watch it! Such a beautiful animation, honestly boggles my mind its from 41, it feels like its a whole different age and yet quite a modern cartoon exists from then!", "The only bummer I see in the video is that Grim Natwick made Betty Boop....", "The White Stripes have a great cover of this as well", "Sharpening his knife", "Let people like things.", "Not his best song, imo, but I liked [Flesh ](https://youtu.be/2_iOA1_MXI4) much better.", "https://youtu.be/mTi471r1NeQ\n\nAyyy was my first thought as well.", "Listening to it now and yeah this is very cool. Love how different all the versions all.", "Wow. Thanks.", "Definitely I saw those 2", "This is a fascinating watch.\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX6hgub6ja0\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdVKbCDOUCc", "Betty Boop was voiced my Mae Questel, probably better known to younger generations as Aunt Bethany in Christmas Vacation. The old aunt that brought her cat wrapped in a box, and a cat food jello.", "Hugh Laurie (AKA Dr. House) put out an album. This song is on it and it's quite good in my opinion.", "Here's the official music video with artist info, it's \"Betty Boop\" by Harald Kindseth", "Love it. One of the few films I’ve seen where Calloway isn’t the best dressed man in show business. Also, if you’ve never read it, check out his 1938 book [“Hepster’s Dictionary”](https://flashbak.com/cab-calloways-hepsters-dictionary-a-guide-to-the-language-of-jive-1938-378657/)", "sorry what?", "Ronk = god.", "Those old superman cartoons are just so fucking gorgeous. It would be incredibly difficult to illustrate a comic book with such a masterful application of color theory and dramatic lighting. The fact they made an animation that gorgeous and with 1940s technology blows me away. \n\nIt’s been awhile since ive heard about any good american 2d animations. Wizards, heavy metal…. What else?", "Grace? Grace died four years ago.", "Elaborate?", "That was a blessing. \n\nThe BLESSSSSS-ING.", "Rusty’s in the navy. \n\nSave the neck for me, Carl! (Wrong character but I couldn’t resist).", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grim_Natwick\n\nBasically, Saying Fleisher created Betty Boop is like saying Henry Ford invented the mustang. He asked Grim to make a character.", "Ah gotcha, thanks!", "His \"he was a friend of mine\" at Phil Ochs tribute concert is the best version of that song. There is so much to it.", "came here to post this, whole album slaps. for the full effect have some shellfish stock cooking in the the room and drink a sazerac." ]	72	videos	Cab Calloway - "St James Infirmary Blues" (Betty Boop in Snow-White)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-1gCc0Vnw	/r/videos/comments/r0f3y6/the_invisible_horror_of_the_shining/	[ "Glad to see KaptainKristian back.", "FINALLY!! It's been too long.", "He lives!", "He is back!! The legend!", "OMGGGGG EVERYBODY STAY CALM! \nWelcome back my captain!", "My Captain! My Captain!", "DAMN!! Now I can sleep peacefull after watching this, thank you!", "The man! The myth! The legend!", "que interesante", "The Return of The King", "He is risen!", "To the top with you Kaptain", "Fantastic stuff. Love this guy's work.", "I was watching The Shining with my ex-gf about 15 years ago. She had never seen it. It was like 1am and my mom called to tell me my grandpa passed away in the middle of the movie.", "But who was phone?", "“The king has returned” - Rafiki", "Wow. Be like Every Frame a Painting popping back. I was sure these videos were done and he did an amazing job editing this to illustrate his points.", "The visible horror is enough for me thanks.", "The cumulative time spent by all of humanity analysing The Shining probably exceeds the number of hours that have passed since 1980 (359,424 hours) :)", "With a hotel in the middle of nowhere, what the hell is is there to do but lose your mind?", "Damn, the Kaptain is back!!!", "The incredible decline of reddit. less than 300 interactions on a KaptainKristian video in 4 hours.", "The movie that keeps giving. I could talk about this movie for a year straight.", "Very good watch.\n\nI've only seen the Shining once and I also saw that silly documentary about it called Room 237. Yet despite this, I never realized that the whole premise of the movie was that the Overlook Hotel was haunted and slowly infesting Jack's mind. Maybe I would've picked up on that on a second watch, but I almost feel like I missed out by not knowing this going in.", "I miss when Reddit wasn’t so widely used and had general rules and guidelines that everyone followed. Like, remember when people would get flamed on for a typo on a post? Now I see one on the front page with a typo almost every day.", "I think you mean kaptain!", "I remember the old ways and I still downvote those posts. Like a fart in a hurricane perhaps, but what more can one do.", "Hay! Save some for the rest of us. Just write “the man” and we got it from there", "TBF there is nothing in the video thumbnail nor post title indicating that this is a Kaptain video.", ">que?", "so.", "Man, I miss when film YouTube was this; actual analysis of craft instead of focusing on stupid theories or plot contrivances or opinion pieces. I guess the quality of craft in recent movies would have to be better to have anything worth talking about like this though.", "I can't believe it. The best video essayist on YouTube. I thought he was done for good.", "no idea who this youtuber is and why everyone seems to be so hyped but i can never get tired of watching shining analysis. Can't wait to get home and watch this.", "Binge his shit, you’ll get it.", "no way", "Great film. Great video and edit", "Very cool", "What's with all the downvotes here?", "grandpa is kill", "He was one of the most consistent high quality video essayists on youtube. Then he didn't publish anything for two years, until this.", "Well he really scaled back the pace of production, but the quality continues to be top notch, so", "I feel like this could be even more true for 2001 Space Odyssey. Now there's an enigma wrapped in a space baby", "I’m one that hates spoilers, and would argue it was better you went in not knowing anything so you could make your own conclusions. Now you can go back and enjoy it a different way.", "holy shit KaptainKristian is back??", "The man", "It's funny, I was watching some of his stuff again like two weeks ago and wondering what happened to this guy. Then I see the thumbnail today and think could it be....it's just the style I guess.", "Idk. I really miss every frame a painting", "Yeah. I remember when classics like [this](https://np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/a8a2v/what_is_the_official_name_for_those_mirror_disco/), and [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cq1q2/help_reddit_turned_spanish_and_i_cannot_undo_it/) would get thousands of comments.", "O KAPTAIN MY KAPTAIN.\n\nI love this guys work. Check out his other videos, they are all insanely high quality.", "I was just about to comment on just how many video essays I've scrolled past in my time on the internet that cover The Shining. Everyone must be heard, I suppose.", "It's no wonder there are conspiracies surrounding this movie with visual puns/references [like this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3mFunrOrOA)\n\nThis is what launch pad 39A looks like, [where Appollo 11 took off, same general shape as the carpet.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/LC39A_and_LC39B.jpg)\n\nAlso the release date for 2001: A Space Odyssey, was 1968 and the launch of Appollo 11 was 1969.\n\n2001 was an absolutely stunning movie made to perfection, it almost seems so well made it's like an exercise in how well you could make these visual effects so Stanley Kubrick and his team would have been the perfect people who could have faked anything. I want make it clear I don't believe in conspiracies in any way, but it's fun either way. Who knows maybe they helped cover up military secrets or devices placed on the moon or something, who knows, it was a serious time period and a lot was at stake.", "You only get to watch something new once, do it unspoiled.\n\nIf you enjoy it enough to look into details and nuance, you can appreciate those subtleties on future watches.", "I love that I looked at both in order, and someone in the second made a crossover joke by saying “disco ball” in Spanish", "Was it though? In the book I thought it was just reformed-drunk ol' Jack taking a dip back into boozetown and things went way south. Been about 20 years since I read it though. To be fair though there are stark differences between the source material and movie", "This is edited so well.", "Dude right? Every frame a painting was the first video movie essay channel I ever saw. I have a soft spot for them", "Wtf? You didn't pick up the hotel was haunted? The fact that it was a horror movie set in an run down and vacant hotel was your first clue, to say nothing of the fucked up shit that happened there...", "Yea but the same logic can be applied to how man times the movie was watched simply on the opening weekend.", "When he compares the silent bicycle scene with the back music version, I kinda think I prefer the silent one, has a creepier feel to me", "They literally say it happened to the previous guy too.", "My favorite version of the shining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i17pORf_iE4", "Watch his other videos they are equal in quality to this. Incredible creator. Love me some KaptainKristian", "Haha dude I went down a rabbit hole. This guy is incredible.", "The Man", "The overt threat in both the novel and the film is the hotel itself and the previous spirits it has ensnared, and it's actually more prominent in the book than in the film. King has said that the character of Jack Torrance is meant to be an inherently good man who was twisted by the malevolent force that is the hotel.\n\nKubrick's Jack is more unbalanced to begin with, King has criticised this as he feels there's less of a descent into madness, and accordingly there is less power given to the hotel.", "Got it. Looks like I need a re-read. In my late teens my takeaway was \"oh he got hammered\" and the \"demons\" took over. There was that awesome scene in the book with the sledgehammer, near the end, that I would have loved to see Kubrick adapt.", "From what I understand, the powerful possessing force in the hotel that drives Jack to madness is analogous to alcoholism which King himself struggled with, so your reading isn't wrong.\n\nIt's just that, in-universe, the hotel is definitely a malignant force.", "I think the book made it pretty clear the hotel was haunted, being as it was not just Jack that saw or heard things. Early on, Danny encounters a lot of supernatural stuff - things that can't be attributed to Jack.", "That's kind of King's thing: He'll take an interesting subtlety and then be like \"no, no, you misunderstand me - the antagonist is literally Satan/monsters/ghosts/Indian zombies/whatever\". \n\nI went through a big binge of his stuff when I was a teenager and it drove me insane how such a great writer could so consistently transform a great book into schlock over the course of the last 20 pages. \n\nThey've all kind of blended together now but I think the one about phonecalls turning people rabid and the one with the two dudes that 'snip' people's souls with magic scissors (and auras were... involved) were particularly bad examples.", "Okay then. Yeah I seem to recall during my King phase it always seemed the boogeyman was booze for a particular era. Cue Scooby Doo unmasking meme: looks like it was ALCOHOLISM all along", "I do think there's perhaps some defence of that idea. Taking The Shining as an example, the antagonist is literally the hotel, the comparisons to alcoholism can certainly be made but that's something we do as readers rather than what actually happens to the characters. From Jack's perspective, the hotel is most certainly the antagonist.\n\nI'm not sure if this is what King is doing in the statements you're referring to, as I'm not well-read when it comes to King, but I do think there's probably some good cause to separate the literal antagonist in-universe from its figurative analogy out-of-universe.", "Like others have said, he was always one of the best of the best essayists. He takes editing to a whole new standard. His content was a bit more consistent when he started, but then he didn't post anything for a year and now this one was his latest for almost two years. People were getting worried, myself included...", ".", "I think maybe I didn't explain that as well as I thought - with the Shining as an example, my ideal narrative would have unresolved uncertainty. Was the hotel haunted, or did a writer with an overactive imagination and simmering tension with his wife just lose his shit? That's a question which I don't think should be answered.\n\nWith the other examples I gave, it got to the end and then IIRC the phonecall one >!is like \"welp, turns out it was a computer virus and it got out and that's that, mystery solved!< and the other one >!the baddie was a multi-dimensional creature who got pleasure from causing fear and lived under a tree, who wanted to kill a child who was going to grow up to, like, send it back to hell!<.\n\nI think great horror needs to be human, and have potential for being real. Y'know - occupy the corners of your dark bedroom, peeking out from alleyways, that sorta thing. The problem with providing a full explanation is that it cuts that imagining off at the source.", "How can you not realize this.", "Watch him leave for another year.", "Highly recommend nerdwriter\n\nEDIT: apparently people hate this dude lol so proceed with caution", "Anyone know if that film about the shining with Ewan McGregor in is any good?", "Ah I understand what you mean now. I definitely enjoy a bit of ambiguity in my fiction to give you room to play around with it in your mind, and horror in particular benefits from not 'showing you the monster', at least until the finale.\n\nBut then I think you could argue ambiguity can be a crutch too, that there's something to be said for clearly defining your antagonist (and accordingly your themes), at least in the final minutes of the work. It's probably also \na lot harder to build towards a climax when you haven't clearly defined an antagonist to be battled and/or defeated.\n\nAnd with the Shining, ambiguity would completely change the tone. It'd go from a representation of how a good person can be driven mad by ambiguous dark desires (i.e. addiction) to a story about a guy who just sort of 'snapped'. In opening itself up to the latter interpretation, it would weaken the strength of the former. The point isn't that some people are inherently capable of snapping and committing crimes, but that we're all susceptible to dark influences.", "People watch 2001:ASO and just accept that the space baby is a space baby and then go home to sleep with their wives. But for some reason people watch The Shining in particular and it makes them think “damn... is this movie actually about the mythical Minotaur?”", "5 biggest plot holes: number two will shock you! \n\nNumber 2: [movie] takes place over a year, but [main character] never gets a hair cut. Unrealistic.", "Been so long since I've seen this movie, that this is crazy to think about.", "Lessons From the Screenplay is a good one too", "You seen Dunkey’s?", "How tf do you describe overlook as run down?", "The myth", "I saw this in my teens when it first released. Scary as hell.\n\nTried to watch it again last year and had to turn it off less than 30 minutes in. The sheer dread was overwhelming to me that day. The color, the sound, the music… I was not in the right frame of mind that day.\n\nThis film was designed to tap into your fears and it does so with a vengeance. \n\nWorking up the balls to start it again.", "Not even joking every single time I try watching this movie I fall asleep... I find it incredibly boring", "He's the worst lol, zero substance to anything he says", "nerdwriter is so far stuck up his own ass he can see his tonsils.", "i personally find nerdwriter often kinda writes about nothing but his piece on Passengers is one of my fav video essays on youtube", "I believe he's working for Criterion now. Kind of a film lovers dream.", "Wow, so happy for him!", "Cough cough Needful Things", "It’s hard to enjoy things sometimes on reddit. I like nerdwriter idc if people say he doesn’t have substance some of his videos have gotten me to think more deeply about films and that means they have substance to me", "Still sad he had to take down his calvin and hobbes video :/", "Yeah, only read once, long ago, but my recollection is that the supernatural was very real, and a threat—especially to people who shine. Like I vaguely remember the chef picking up on Danny but also wondering about Jack…that Jack had that in him too. Maybe buried or suppressed, but enough to be exploited by the hotel.", "Just because it's full of ghosts and drives a man to murder his family doesn't mean", "It's also really neat to see him get that Nebula sponsorship! It seems they've been quietly growing and building a really strong base of content creators. \n\nI understand that Nebula and YouTube are doing different things in the web-video space (for good reason, YouTube already exists and has a 15 year headstart) but every time YouTube fucks up there's this discussion that there should be a viable competitor and I am hopeful that Nebula could be seen as that, in the future.", "Film about the shining? Do you mean Doctor Sleep? It's a sequel to the shining, based on the sequel to the book. It's pretty good. Just don't go in expecting a movie or story much like the shining, because it's very much its own thing.", "King seems to like to write about evil buildings. In 11/22/63, the book depository building gives off evil vibes like it knows he's there and knows what's about to go down.", "Like two farts in a hurricane ;)\n\nIt’s not much but it’s honest work", "I didn’t mind insomnia but when I read it I was just coming out of the gunslinger books, so I already knew and was interested in the whole pantheon of king’s good guys and bad guys.\n\nI mean, he is pretty consistent about his pantheon - remember that the turtle makes an appearance in IT…", "So good to have KaptainKristian back! His analysis is so good that even when he’s covering well-trodden territory (such as The Shining), I’m always keen to hear his take. \n\nHope he gets back into regular posting. He teased a Hellboy video a while ago the never materialised, so I’m hopeful he dips back into his vault.", "Just watching this brilliant commentary filled me with chills and dread!", "Are you being sarcastic or is this an actual thing because now that I think about it...", "No, it's not. The movie is a metaphor for the killing of Native Indian tribes.", "He did a great analysis. I've never seen his videos before but I'm gonna go back and binge his stuff.\n\nBut yes, the way Kubrick put it all together is truly masterful. I think it's his best.", "Interesting that people have such different experiences. For me its just a boring retro film with shoehorned symbolism.", "It takes way too much time and effort to put something like this together unless you're already established. I guarantee their's a sea of content like this... But YouTube won't promote it and it gets burried in the ton of shit. People get sick of cranking out content for free and burn out. Sucks really. I know, I've tried making various things. When a meme gets 100k views and a highly editted, put together light show gets less than 1k... Who even wants to bother? I love youtube, but they have done literally nothing to improve that situation.Too much content, not enough curation.", "I think it’s just over saturated with arm chair experts telling us “How to…” with everything. No real substance, just picking apart the creative works of others after the fact like it was obvious not to do the thing they dislike. \n\n“How to make a failure!” “How to write a better movie!” Etc…\n\nEveryone who knows how to use the video essay formula and cadence can make themselves sound like an expert, despite very few having any input of substance.", "Is back??? Who the hell is KaptainKristian ?", "I'm glad he could vocalize what I always felt about the score and how it is edited with the movie.", "There's [Every Frame A Painting](https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCjFqcJQXGZ6T6sxyFB-5i6A)", "No, it's not. The movie is a nod to the ability to see patterns in ANYTHING. Its called pareidolia check it out its a very interesting topic.", "Don't know, but I assume he's the McRib.", "I really liked this analysis but the final example when Danny rolls around the corner seems like a weaker example than some of the others (the bedroom talk is amazing). It seems to me that the music is a little too over the top in that scene, though watching it out of context may also have something to do with it. Guess it's time to go watch the shining again", "Nope all about the faked moon landing that Kubrick filmed and it's his secret confession /s", "Jesus, I forgot I was even subbed to him on YouTube. Looking at his video post history there is a ton of stuff from 3-5 years ago, then 1 video 1 year ago, then 1 12 hours ago.\n\nI am looking forward to this. Great content creator.", "No biggie. It’s not for everyone.", "Plus he's got 4 videos ready to go, and he's working on them full time again!", "Really high quality video essayist. His editing and voice are very smooth.", "Um, I think it’s about alcoholism?….", "Actually I think it’s about a hotel keeper who goes crazy", "Or his wife does.", "Yeah he had a community post the other day saying he's sorry he hasn't been making videos but now his work life balance is well... balanced and said he has a huge back log so expect a video essay from him about once a month again", "King likes the TV version better", "He had a feature on the Tampopo* DVD/Bluray. It wasn't nearly to the quality of his Youtube work.", "The good stuff on Youtube is better than ever before.\n\n> I guess the quality of craft in recent movies would have to be better to have anything worth talking about like this though.\n\nThis is just absolutely ridiculous. Digital cameras have made it so that practically anyone with talent can make a great film... and boy are there a lot of them out there. (Hint: Hollywood tentpole movies that have to cater to an international audience isn't the right place to look.) It's actually a golden age of film right now.", "Love the guy and his work but his word on his availability/output is not to be trusted. This is not the first time he's promised something like this.", "Guy who made the video. Makes good video essays.", "It really depends on what your opinion of the first film was. I myself enjoyed it alot since it does connect both movies and is its own story too. I'd recommend giving it a try.", "When he cuts the Mickey Mouse out of the sweater and it has it's own shadow. He doesn't miss when it comes to the fine details.", "He posted yesterday that he has 4 videos lined up / in some stage of readiness and that he has a long list of videos planned after that. Sounds like he's going to make this his full time gig.", "I really enjoyed this video, but my mind hasn't been changed. For me the music in The Shining still sounds cheesy and is the film's major flaw.", "Every theory video or video questioning something about the shining that I have seen on YouTube is all explained in the book", "Nuh uh. It's about Jack sexually abusing Danny. Remember the Playgirl that Jack is reading in the lobby has a cover article about parents having sex with their kids.\n\nFor some reason I get a real kick out of all of the analysis videos out there. But I couldn't get through the guy who folds the movie in half and plays it with that Beatles album. His analysis had too many patterns and numerology.", "The book is so much more terrifying. I wish the scene with the dog costume man made it in the movie that shit was creepy and I can’t get the image out of my head.", "I completely forgot about that one, like I get the whole dark side of the moon and wizard of oz because it syncs up a bit but that one was just confusing.", "Yes", "If that is what you both believe you can have your own apartment", "No 😂", "So am I", "Wrong", "Blood rushing from the elevator? A zombie-chick chilling in your bathtub? \n\nIt’s hardly 3/5 stars, man.", "His videos make me want to learn how to properly use after affects and shit he is ridiculously talented at video editing", "You miss when people cared about typos on the internet? There are things about older Reddit that I miss but that’s not one of them lmao", "I'm gonna defer to James Gray on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o78yGsJpUA0", "It was a pretty good movie but it didnt make any sense", "Yeah Every Frame a Painting was THE best video essay channel, imo.", "What do YOU miss? Unidan, in-jokes, switcheroos, puns, beef with 4chan/9gag?", "Have you tried Dark Side with Paul Blart 2 yet?\nIt's a fucking religious experience.", "I guess I just miss when people weren’t so uptight. Feels like so many people take this shit super seriously for no reason now when messing with people used to be half the fun. \n\nHonestly I’m probably viewing it with rose colored glasses tho cause I was literally 13 when I first started coming here", "Lindsay Ellis was nominated for a Hugo award for her series on the Hobbit.", "His videos are meant as introductions to basic film studies and analysis. Nothing more. They're not for the Reddit crowd, they're for the YouTube crowd.", "I remember over a decade ago it used to be intentionally off-putting and elitist for the sake of interesting discussion/community.\n\nSpelling/grammar mistakes are an obvious sign one is a 9gagger, even though we all still browsed (but only for the karma-whoring, I swear).", "Man, that second one is some seriously coordinated high-effort shitposting and I cant help but appreciate it.", "This is accurate, in the book the hotel is legitimately haunted. In the movie it’s more Jack having cabin fever and hallucinations and less on the hotel being haunted. That’s why to me the movie has a few confusing parts that are carryovers from the book’s Overlook. I will say that the movie to me is better than the book.", "Yeah, my interpretation was that the hotel 'fed' on psychic power, sucking in those that had it. The fact that Jack experienced a lot of the same things that Danny did (the hedges, room 217, ballroom clock) leads me to the same conclusion that Jack had some ability below the surface. Whilst the hotel ultimately wanted Danny, it also had a spot for Jack too.", "You mean the Stephen King book it was based on? Because I'd argue they are very different.", "The best? I mean his videos are clean and we'll edited but a lot of his analysis is just incredibly bad and enter into nostalgia bait. More quality over quantity.\n\nWhich is fine people enjoy it which is good. He's a great editor and content creator.", ">Spelling/grammar mistakes are an obvious sign one is a 9gagger, even though we all still browsed (but only for the karma-whoring, I swear).\n\nOk nvm I don’t miss old reddit", "So incredibly different that I'd argue fans of the movie are fans of Kubrick and not King. I'm a King fan and the movie fucking blows nuts. It destroyed all intrigue in the character of Danny and totally fucked Jack's character development. Wendy was fairly true, so no complaints on Kubrick's Wendy... Only likeable character in the whole film.\n\nI guess I have* to accept that the movie has merit based on how deep a legacy it has cut for itself in the fabric of film history, but... My God, read the book. 1000x a better narrative.", "You might be giving too much intellectual credit to the Reddit crowd ;)", "Wait, why?", "I had no idea the music was all done after filming in this way, with entirely pre-composed works. That is actually insane for how effective it is.", "Is it just me or did his voice sound different? Like it sounds deeper than I remember it. Either he recorded when he just woke up or is getting over a sickness.", "I love reading the comments in the threads.", "Yea nerdwriter is pretty bad. In particular I think he is abusing a style of presentation that is meant for well researched and thought out presentations. By doing so he oversaturated the video essay market and hurt the reach of other youtube video essays.\n\nThe cadence and format comes from classroom presentations and gives his work a feeling of authority, but he produces so many of them that they have little if any substance.\n\nHis videos (at least the ones I watched a few years ago) boil down to nerdwriter basically saying “this thing is cool, right guys?”\n\nMy favorite video essay of all time is “Thief vs AAA gaming” by Dom Giuca and I think that video perfectly represents what the video essay format should be used for. This guy made one video essay about one topic that he was passionate about. He didn’t make anything else, and I wish youtube was a place to celebrate these impressive video essays instead of being filled with channels that mass produce video essays.\n\nThat being said I think nerdwriter improved a lot from what he was 5years ago, although I think he still tends to make shit up like an art teacher trying to find meaning in something that doesn’t have meaning.", "That’s so awesome to hear. I was never a Patreon subscriber or anything so always wondered why he just disappeared.", "Which makes all those Stephen King drinking games ironic.\n\nhttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DrinkingGame/StephenKing", "Hard agree, his videos are so well edited, well researched, legitimately insightful, and above all they're reasonable length! \n\nI can't stand all the 30-minute-plus videos all over YouTube that are basically just some schmuck reading the full Wikipedia article on an artist.", "Last thing i had heard it was a copyright issue I believe? but take that with a HUGE grain of salt cause your guess is as good as mine", "Have a look at Like Stories of Old", "Give it 1000 years and watch us form a religion around it. \n\nWe will wear the redrum-necklace around our necks, but no one will really know what it means.", "It didn't take long for people to figure out that nerdwriter fit into the category /u/tattlerat pointed out:\n\n> Everyone who knows how to use the video essay formula and cadence can make themselves sound like an expert, despite very few having any input of substance.\n\nWhile occasionally I think he has good videos, he's pressured into a regular release schedule, which very quickly devolved into \"video essay editing/cadence, mixed with nothing substantial, but spread it out over 10-20 minutes, and hope I sound legit.\"\n\nI am still subscribed, as I hope he releases good stuff occasionally, but I noticed many videos in a row that didn't reveal/discuss anything. Only re-hashed surface level \"opinions\" for over 10 minutes straight, but with a cadence that made you think it was legit groundbreaking content.", "No idea how your comment was downvoted to ZERO while a nerdwriter comment was +10. This is a travesty.", "To add to the many theories about the movie, the guy is mentioned twice, and his first name is changed between those references.", "It may seem retro now but it wasn't at the time. It was one of the first films to use Steadicam", "Also, the director's cut is significantly better and more emotional than the theatrical.", "Yeah i had a kubrick seminar back at uni. Shining and Space Oddyssey really didn't do it for me. I can't look at them and go \"woah that most have been such a great new technique BACK THEN!\". Much more fan of Barry Lyndon." ]	187	videos	The Invisible Horror of The Shining
https://youtu.be/b7-1gCc0Vnw	/r/videos/comments/r0f4yt/the_invisible_horror_of_the_shining_captain/	[ "FINALLY!!", "The king of editing is back! God, I'm so happy to see him upload again. Even after 2 years, the man can pop out an absolute banger of a video. His whole channel is binge worthy, if you haven't I'd highly highly recommend watching all of his stuff.", "Awesome video. Nicely done. \n\nThe Shining is scary, but more than that, to me it's just deeply unsettling, and the music is a big part of that.", "You know what is the thing that makes a person who does not have his humanity is the lack of feeling for others, whether he is a human being or an animal or anything." ]	4	videos	The Invisible Horror of The Shining - Captain Kristian
https://youtu.be/x7Fr9poWjgk	/r/videos/comments/r0f7k7/my_giant_daughters/	[ "Your giant daughter's what?", "I think it should be “daughter’s’es”.", "I do enjoy a nice butcher's apostrophe once a day" ]	3	videos	My Giant Daughter’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlVSJ0AvZe0	/r/videos/comments/r0fh01/today_is_the_17th_anniversary_of_the_launch_of/	[ "Blizzard Activision is going down the shitter right now and for good reason.", "There's a massive private server community still playing original WoW through WOTLK. People are fed up with Blizzard, but the original game +2 DLCs will be around for a long long time.", "Wonder if I'll outlive all my childhood heroes, as in they all eventually become the villain. Thanks, Batman.", "Yes and it's really sad how far down they've gone in just the last few years.", "I wish I could erase my memory and experience it for the first time again.", "1. Bobby Kotick needs to resign or be removed by the board.\n2. The employees of Activision need to unionize.\n3. The union needs to push back against the board's disastrous business decisions.\n4. The victims of harassment and discrimination need to have their voice acknowledged and be paid fair restitution.\n5. Blizzard needs to release StarCraft: Ghost.", "I don't work for Blizzard, I just wanted to share the video because of the anniversary.", "Dead game and a dead company. Will miss it but they've completely lost all integrity at blizz", "The WoW is dead. Bury it." ]	9	videos	Today is the 17th Anniversary of the Launch of World of Warcraft. This is the original cinematic trailer. Safe travels, friends.
https://youtu.be/g3W3yr8NopU	/r/videos/comments/r0fh34/until_the_1950s_the_scottish_wildcat_aka_the/	[ ">was considered a man-killer\n\nIs that a joke? They're barely bigger than a house cat.", "Men were a lot shorter back then.", "idk man, those teeth and claws on something as agile and light as that cat could probably leap and take an eye out pretty easily", "I don't know about \"barely\". They're definitely more muscled and meaner. An ordinary housecat can really hurt a human if they absolutely wanted to. This thing would definitely fuck you up, although I don't about killing.", "> An ordinary housecat can really hurt a human if they absolutely wanted to. \n\nOnly if that human was trying really hard not to hurt the cat in fending it off. Cats are soft as fuck. Punch them in the back while they're attached to you, and you'll easily break enough bones to cause the cat to let go and run for its life it is still capable.\n\nSure, a young child could be in danger, but they shouldn't pose any danger to adults.", "Maybe from infection?", "Ewan Mcgregor narrating?", "Look up cat attacks. They're rare but they do happen. Obviously a house cat isn't going to kill anyone, but I'm just saying this thing is definitely meaner than an ordinary house cat. Look at it's fangs and muscle definition ffs.", "Yup.", "lmao no", "The problem is that when put back into the wild, they will just mate with housecats. The species is dead, but their genes will live on in your housecat.", "hahah shit my bad. I guess it just got the nickname \"man-killer\" for its adorable appearance or something! Whoopsie!", "Ever heard of folkloric legends?\n\nPeople in my country have killed owls because they believe they can kill you and are witches.\n\nTake an eye out lmaoooooo", "Scott's wear kilts. There's more vulnerable places with less leaping.", "hey dont make fun of the Scotts", "This is why all cats that aren’t show animals, or actual breeding stock should be spayed or neutered. That and stray cats kill an alarming amount of songbirds.", "Yes, barely. These \"man killing\" wild cats top out at 16 lbs and 24 inches in length (the males, females are smaller). A healthy house cat is like 9-11 lbs and 18 inches long.\n\nAnimals this small don't go out of their way to kill humans or other animals bigger than them. They'd have to be absolutely starving and even then a small kid could fight one off.", "I wonder if it's possible to breed it so it hits max aggressiveness. I really want a cat that will suddenly leap for my jugular while frothing with madness. It will be adorable", "Bobcats are also barely bigger than a house cat and they’re extremely dangerous.", "Dangerous in what sense? Because they don't kill people.\n\nThere are coyotes bigger than most dogs where I live and they attack cats and small dogs and sometimes even kids but they don't kill humans.\n\nI get it, some of you aren't really out doors people or you've lived your whole life in a city but small cats are not man killers. Even cougars/mountain lions that can be bigger than a grown man are less dangerous.", "It's coming straight for us!", "> I guess it just got the nickname \"man-killer\" for its adorable appearance or something!\n\nYou can call anything a \"man-killer\". You've not proven anything by regurgitating the clickbait title.", "What...? Do you not consider something dangerous unless you die from it? That’s a ridiculous metric.\n\nSave your weird patronizing comments, I worked as a biologist and environmentalist for years and I specifically worked with bobcats for a large chunk of my career, I rehabilitated bobcats owned by drug dealers, I transported some to zoos, I reintroduced some to the wild, I bottle fed abandoned bob-kittens. They are extremely aggressive, fast, clever, they don’t hesitate, have sharper claws/teeth than a regular house cat and are significantly stronger. Even bobcats who have spent their entire lives around people are extremely unpredictable and dangerous. Just one brief scratch or bite will and almost always does land someone in the ER with large blood loss and likely percent scaring after stitches heal. My mentor lost my of her vision in her right eye from a bobcat that had been in captivity it’s entire life.\nArguing that bobcats aren’t dangerous is bizarre and insane. Are they “man killers”? No, but I don’t see anyone arguing the were. Many animals that don’t kill humans are extremely dangerous.", "Again, I'm not making the argument one can and will kill a human, my only point was that they're not just some basic housecat and definitely meaner.", "Unless you are handling it, a Bobcat poses no threat to humans. A squirrel bite hurts and bleeds like crazy but like a bobcat unless you pick it up there is no threat." ]	26	videos	Until the 1950s the Scottish Wildcat, aka the Highland Tiger, was considered a man-killer. Today, there are only an estimated 35 in the wild.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbTzZ9-PNpg	/r/videos/comments/r0fpc7/on_the_road_again_washing_machine_edition/	[ "LOL", "It has no place in a house but in a band", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4\\_X1rhOq6BU", "When I think of how far we've come, when I see the amazing technology that exists today it makes me cry.", "que buena lavadora", "So this video made want to rewatch an old favorite.\n\n[https://youtu.be/sKZTdkvr4qo](https://youtu.be/sKZTdkvr4qo)\n\n......turns out it's the same guy! LOL", "House band.", "It's even the same washer! I love it's performance.", "Can you do Creedence Clearwater Lookin' Out My Back Door?", "He should do another version of this video with his washing machine on a road and moving while it vibrates.", "Oh my god. That is amazing" ]	11	videos	"On the Road Again" - Washing Machine edition
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r0fsje/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r0fsje/deleted_by_user/	[ "I bet Susanna Hoffs wakes up every morning in her lovely home and thanks God for Prince.", "Did he ever get a date out of her like he wanted?", "They were both young and sexy as hell. I'd be disappointed if they didn't bang." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzebLxDz0XI	/r/videos/comments/r0g01b/if_system_of_a_down_wrote_britney_spears_toxic/	[ "The editing of this video gives me motion sickness.", "Genuine chuckle", "This is really cool but the guy's voice is so far off of whatever quality Serj has that makes him so engaging that it kinda kills the final product. It just feels weak. \n\nI need to listen to some actual SOAD to like...cleanse it out of my ears.\n\nEdit: Also, these pop songs just don't have the range that SOAD does and this video makes that REALLY obvious.", "I agree all and all. Sadly, I make these songs on twitch live, and don’t get to choose what the combo will be. The audience does. I just have to wing whatever they choose live in an hour. \n\nI’m a huge serj fan, and his voice is just very difficult to replicate", "Sorry for being so harsh. I didn't know you were the one making the video so I just blasted my largely uninformed opinion out into the world. \n\nTo be fair, you did sound A LOT like Serj. It's definitely the song more than you that leaves it without the power SOAD brings to the table.", "Awww you’re all good! Not at all dude. They’re such a unique sound. We did a whole month of these. Some work, some don’t. Part of the experiment.", "Great idea. Terrible execution.", "Aw, jeez. I'm sorry.\n\nI didn't realize you were the poster and the artist. While this video is not my cup of tea and I think it's fair to critique art, I'd never intentionally insult someone to their face about their creation.\n\nThanks for being a good sport. I'm sorry to take a dump on something that you put your time and energy into because it takes passion to create something and courage to share it, and I even if the final product is not for me, I still respect and admire the process.", "You’re all good friend! These are made\nOn the spot, timed, and are never masterpieces, part of the experiment! You’re a-ok!", "This is so badass" ]	10	videos	If System Of A Down wrote Britney Spear's Toxic. Made live in an hour on Twitch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Nn5Uilso0	/r/videos/comments/r0g01l/using_ai_biggie_smalls_to_teach_deform_modifiers/	[ "God damn that's amazing.", "[How far we've come since using text to speech for tutorials.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmLe2Yft7Vk)", "Upvote for Nujabes", "Rap should go back to using real beats and drums", "The great thing is today enjoying music is mostly limited by laziness to seek out the stuff you like. I'm in the same boat!", "This was far more entertaining than educational, but I love this.", "White Trump supporter says rap should go back to real beats and drums", "Bruh. What did I just witness?", "Let the man Rest In Peace.", "The next era of education material. Damn, these kids got it good.", "Oh wow. \n\nQuestion for someone fluent in Blender: how hard is syncing the animation to the vocals, or is it done manually frame by frame for each consonant/vowel?\n\nAlso I take it that the faked audio of Biggie/Kanye wasn't done in Blender?", "We truly live in the future. Damn.", "> Also I take it that the faked audio of Biggie/Kanye wasn't done in Blender?\n\nNope, there are a few sites out there that are doing a lot in AI TTS like https://uberduck.ai/#voice=biggie", "> Question for someone fluent in Blender: how hard is syncing the animation to the vocals, or is it done manually frame by frame for each consonant/vowel?\n\nIt is just like any other animation. It is not hard but tedious. You can see my process at 0:10 in the video.", "That was beautiful." ]	15	videos	Using AI Biggie Smalls to teach deform modifiers in Blender 3D
https://youtube.com/watch?v=R4GlR6X4ljU	/r/videos/comments/r0gak6/oblivion_npc_toilet_paper_quest/	[ "This is easily the best one I've ever seen.", "That is honestly best I've seen.", "Quest Started: Poop Dreams", "Poopocolypse", "Give that man a Netflix comedy special right now", "The delivery is so NPC-like, it's perfect.", "Yeah, too many people put the Oblivion music over random conversations they think are funny. This one fit perfectly.", "How To With John Wilson is close enough.", "If I ever make an RPG, I'm definitely putting this one in as an Easter-egg", "Is it just me or can I not see who is talking? I assume it’s the dude walking by, but you can never actually see him talk.", "the cadence is just perfect for one of those NPC's", "This is the only instance of this meme that I get. All the other ones just seem forced and/or unfunny.", "Too bad she won't live. But then again, who does? nodding thoughtfully", "Hey this is my video :)", "Follow that man. He's a fucking philosopher.", "This never gets old, what a legend.", "Think I've only ever seen the shitty versions because this was the first time I actually got the point of these.", "This is my favourite youtube video\n\nI'm glad to see it making the rounds again", "They use three shells in the Imperial City.", "I kind of want to pay someone to re-record the delivery and include it in bethesda mods, it really is perfect.", "I’m dying lol, this some a GTA 3 NPC would say.", "https://youtu.be/mHrwoGhtJMQ\n\nThis one is pretty good.", "This feels more like a Fallout instance than oblivion based on the dialogue.", "I'm lost. Is this a meme from a game?", " All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to ~~die~~ poop.", "The unreleased Redditors cut.", "Oblivion is an open sandbox game and the NPCs has lots of canned phrases that would say, often at inappropriate times like right after someone died. The music, scenes of chaos, and the one liners would make for some absolutely hilarious and surreal moments in the game. There's a meme now where you take insane sounding conversations from real life and stick Oblivion music over the top of it and call it \"oblivion NPCs in real life\" or something along those lines. Some are truly amazing, but it helps to go to YouTube and look at actual oblivion NPCs to see where the inspiration comes from", "Very beginning of the video, top left, old cat with a cane.", "Be seeing you", "well you're in for a treat, this one is perfect.\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKWHtNDGKU", "It’s so perfect the guy must have heard the music and played into it 😂", "What am I watching?", "Must be", "Tbh i don't even know. earlier the dude was saying random shit now its a romance idk whats happening.\n\nI found it randomly with a discord bot", "I swear 90% of these memes are people who never played oblivion and have no idea what the reference is. This one is actually accurate.", "It's still the only one that I've seen that works.", "I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one other that fit", "This one is nearing 2M views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNXPGfjt7kk", "Temuera Morrison needs to lay off the skooma.", "im tripping rn, I can't get over how such a somewhat specific subject such as OP's video is being streamed right now. why", "[He sounds like this guy,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggvzjfr2w3A) whom I love.", "Homie over here livin in the 7th era while us chuds are still stuck in the 4th", "streamed since 5th october and i have no idea why either", "We wouldn't have this problem if the guard didn't keep letting Bretons into the city.\n\nI've heard half of them still get high on mushrooms and worship trees. \n\n\"Wyrd\" indeed.", "Nice try Todd Howard, I know you are never gonna release Elder Scrolls 6 without making me play one last port.", "It's a bunch of clips from a few videos designed to help teach English. The subjects and dialogue are super weird cause they're meant to teach you about simple rules or phrases", "seriously though, why did people en masse assume toilet paper would quickly become scarce early in the pandemic?\n\nI am with the random guy.", "These oblivion videos seem to be getting a huge push recently.", "Yeah, when I think of NPC dialogue I think: something that is bizarrely specific and definitely not something to say to a random stranger in passing, said in passing. \n\nSome crazy person freaking out on someone innocent isn't NPC dialogue-esque, its just weird.", "I think it's the unsolicited nature of it as well, just like in the game. A stream of consciousness just yelled at your general direction.", "The dialogue is Fallout, the delivery is Oblivion.", "This one and that British lady yelling at workers are the 2 best ones of the lot", "I like how there are a bunch of comments posting videos that are exactly what you are describing\n\n\"No mine is funny I swear!!!\"", "I love these.\n\n[The Joe Biden one](https://youtu.be/j4nUrx2CRwQ) Is my favorite", "Have you played oblivion? It's not about the content of the words at all, it's about the tone and cadence\n\nEdit: I misunderstood and thought you were disagreeing with me. I rewatched the video and was like \"he is even saying random commentary that seems NPC like\" then k realized", "[This one](https://v.redd.it/62xadx4yc9p71) is still my favorite", "[This one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyQn2ic2Wzw)", "[Three women walking down the street that way!](https://youtu.be/MyQn2ic2Wzw)", "Wow that sounds exactly like an NPC.", "You should try eMTB in a city. It's awesome, no limits.", "In the hight of the early pandemic, this was a really nice video to watch :)", "Watch this\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSQFI131sJQ", "People panicked thinking it was going to sell out.\n\nSo it did.", "This is a clearly scripted one but is so damn funny:\n\nhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_XR6dsy7ATE", "Or stilted dialog with weird pauses and mismatched intonation", "The rippling anger that has him practically bursting at the seams, over a disabled woman walking slow is so uncomfortable. It's hard to imagine there are people that wound up out there just bashing their head through life. \n\nI really hate to see people living like that.", "is this for mentally disabled people or english learners?", "The guy's voice plays a big part in it. There's a deep, clear, and well rehearsed quality to it.\n\nSomeone should track that guy down and have him do commercials or game VO.", "These actors must have had so much fun acting some of these scenes lol.", "Bruh what 😂 the music isn’t actually playing.. fuck there’s a lot to unpack here", "okay but the way he says \"you fucking bitch\" is incredible", "Yeah I love that one but it's in its own category. It's not just obviously scripted but it's an intentional oblivion parody.", "Incredibly poignant.", "It’s a streamer with donation audio… it’s definitely playing. Are you new to the internet?", "It's \"live\" steamed in the sense that a bunch of clips are in a playlist and it just plays through them", "Breton? Surely, you mean Bosmer. Now there's guys who know how to party.", "Dude the music was added after the fact are you stupid?", "Ok boomer", "Well met", "Lol I’m a boomer because I’m right? While being 26?", "[You cannot fast travel when enemies are nearby.]", "My guess is a somewhat law effort but clearly-articulated dialogue for language learning channel + meme for exposure, fun factor + realtime machine transcription.", "ulloh", "OMG that really got me. haven't laughed this hard in a long time." ]	83	videos	Oblivion NPC Toilet Paper Quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-1gCc0Vnw&t=1s	/r/videos/comments/r0gbpf/kaptainkristian_the_invisible_horror_of_the/	[ "He's back!", "I know! I love this man's videos.", "Holy SHIT. a new one?\n\nI watch the Ghibli video probably once a month haha", "Just watched his Calvin and Hobbes video the other day was lamenting his absence. Sadly at the rate we're going, his next video will be in November 2025.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r0f3y6/the_invisible_horror_of_the_shining/", "Thank you. Looks like they beat me to it", "doppleganger" ]	7	videos	KaptainKristian - The Invisible Horror of The Shining

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