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https://youtu.be/O2C5R3FOWdE	/r/videos/comments/rf0alo/what_the_internet_did_to_garfield_super_eyepatch/	[ "Just wanted to post it here, even without having seen it. He has a pleasant nature and makes such good videos.", "His videos about metacommentay on media by their fan culture are by far the best", "I actually fired up his channel earlier today and when I saw a new video on garfielf I kinda rolled my eyes but than I saw it was over an hour I got kinda excited.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_culture", "I did not think I would spend this much time today learning about this but I am glad I did.", "Is this worth the time investment? Be honest because if you say yes I'm going to sink an hour and 20 minutes into this....", "God yes.", "Yes", "no", "I like Eyepatch's videos, but I kinda wish he toned down his own personal narratives and added more actual history, just move that content slider just a little bit away from fiction and more towards non-fiction (but thats just a personal taste).", "I'm sorry, Jon.", "No, but [this](https://youtu.be/NAh9oLs67Cw) is.", "I watched 10 minutes before I wondered \"how long is this?\" and then had a mild existential crisis.", "I've been obsessed with Garfield, ever since I saw Jon Arbuckle naked.\n\nI remember when I was really little, I'd walk to the library to read books. I grew up poor, so I didn't have much in the way of entertainment. So every morning til evening I'd spend my days in the library, poring over endless books.\n\nI happened upon a nice clutch of Garfield comic books in the kids section. You remember the Garfield comic books, right? Paperback, longer than they were tall. A few had covers that sparkled, commemorating 5, or 10 years or holiday editions.\n\nWell, one day, I picked out one published in 1981. Third issue. It had a dark turquoise cover. \"GARFIELD: BIGGER THAN LIFE\" was the title, with the titular character himself sitting beside it proclaiming, \"I'm fat and I'm lazy and I'm proud of it!\" I'll never forget it.\n\nBut anyway, this isn't about Garfield. This is about Jon.\n\nThe comic strip started simple enough. Jon was walking past Garfield sitting on the table, heading to the living room where his friend Lyman was established to be in the strip on the previous page. He said something that annoyed Garfield, who had just noticed a stray thread hanging off his sweater.\n\nThe portly tabby stuck out his claw which caught on the string. The string got longer and longer as Jon walked away while the fat cartoon cat smiled mischievously. This persisted for a few panels until the last panel, where an embarrassed and annoyed Jon Arbuckle reappears before Garfield, stark naked but for a tiny clump of strings he held in front of his nethers. Garfield said something smartalecky, I can't remember... The punchline was lost on me because of how obsessed I was over seeing Jon Arbuckle's uncovered form.\n\nThat last panel. God, that last panel, I remember sitting in that library staring at it for half an hour, fascinated. His body was so sublime. It was the body of a god. Jon Arbuckle was a sexy, naked man. I desperately wished that tiny clump of string wasn't there and I could see my man in all his naked glory. Just the thought of that made me feel things I never felt before.\n\nhttps://imgur.com/dc8hIN5", "I've been thinking about Fall Guys Kart. Basically, it's like Garfield Kart, but with Fall Guys. Have you played Garfield Kart? It's the best Kart game ever. Garfield is so funny. He loves lasagne. Just really loves it. I don't think cats can eat lasagna. I'm not sure. I don't have a cat. I'd like a cat. I'd have to do research first into what they can eat though, as I'm not sure. They obviously can't drive karts either, so the garfield metaverse could be stretching the truth. I got a new tattoo this week of Garfield. I highly recommend Garfield to everyone. I hope we can add Garfield to Fall Guys. - Joe Walsh, CEO of Fall Guys, 36 years old", "Garfield the movie was a cinematic master piece and ahead of it’s time,it was the best cgi movie ever made with Garfield fur being so life like I could feel it though the screen and his actions being accurate to his comic depiction with a modern twist in some cases,critics will say the romance plot was uninteresting however to that I say have you read the sonnets which I compare to the beautifully crafted love plot this movie has thoughtfully made,the action was immense making you think what will happen to this adventurous feline next,with the ending being a ageless lesson about friendship as Garfield friends from the pound save him from the mean spirited chapman and then john comes to finish chapman off with a punch to the face", "Did you know that in the May 30th 1990 edition of the Garfield comic strip, Jon Arbuckle drinks dog semen? It's true, Jim Davis says that it's a protein drink to help pregnant animals but frankly I think Jim Davis is a fucking liar, fuck you Jim you can't even write a single adult joke without backtracking? I expected more out of the artistic integrity of my daily newspaper comic strips, Jim. Instead you play me like this, play me like a fool who doesn't know what dog semen is. Well Jim I know what dog semen is and you can't hide it from me.", "So I'm a bit of an energy drink fanatic and I've concocted the perfect beverage for any Garfield fan.\n\nGarfield Juice\n\nIngredients:\n\n3 liters of water\n\n17 oranges\n\n800mg of caffeine powder\n\nRaw chicken (whole)\n\nOrange food dye\n\nDirections\n\nPre heat oven to 600f. Bring 2L of water to boil on stove top. Add the caffeine powder to the boiling water and stir. Once stirred, add oranges to caffeine-water one at a time, and remove each orange after 5 minutes. Discard boiling water. Insert each caffenated orange into raw chicken and bake in oven for 17 hours on a baking tray. Remove chicken. The chicken and oranges should be unrecognizable. Crush all contents of the baking tray into ash and add the ash to the remaining one liter of water. Add orange food dye to the solution. Serve the Garfield juice chilled.", "Anytime Garfield comes up in conversation, I pretend that I think his favorite food is Spaghetti.\n\nNo matter how much it bothers them, or how many sites they show me, I stand my ground. 'Maybe it was localized for the younger audience', 'never trust Wikipedia!' (even if it isn't even Wikipedia), or, my favorite, 'that IS spaghetti, are you BLIND!?'\n\nI've lost friends over this. I almost got fired. I don't know why I am compelled to do this, but I can never stop.", "Because for reasons no one in his world can explain, once a week, for one glorious fleeting Sunday, Garfield discovers his normally gray world miraculously awash with the brilliancy of color, the loftiest cyans, sweetest magentas, and most radiant yellows all on full display, permeating all of existence with beauty indescribable. And then Monday dawns and cruelly snatches this rapturous full spectrum from his grasp, returning him to the empty monochrome shell of a world that is to be his prison for the remaining 6 days, taunting him with the memory of his brush with the sublime and the knowledge that as long as there are Mondays, that feeling will always be something he can never truly possess.", "Of course he doesn’t work since he is a lazy cat, so why does he hate it? Did something happen on a Monday or does he love Jon so much he can’t handle him leaving him to go to work?\n\nThe Jon part leads into two separate reasons:\n\n1: Jon didn’t just adopt Garfield but rescued him. Maybe he saw him out on the streets shivering from the cold then took him home after that he fed them the only food he had in his fridge which was lasagna. That would explain why Garfield is obsessed with lasagna.\n\n2: Garfield has abandonment issues. maybe Garfield has been thrown out into the streets by his previous abusive owner. He wandered around until an animal shelter saw him and took him in, then that lead to Jon finding him and immediately adopting him.\n\nThe part where something happened on Monday may lead to Garfield's lack of empathy towards animals. He had went missing when he tried to see where Jon is going on a Monday and was locked out, thus leading him to be on his own for the first time. He got into a fight which both mentally and physically damaged him. That leads to him hating all other animals that appear before him.\n\nWhat do you think about this?", "When I was 18... 18 years old, I saw for the first time in my life... I saw an image of clarity. I saw a comic strip... a three panel comic strip that, though simple as it seemed, changed me... changed my being, changed who I am... Made me who I am...\n\nEnlightened me...\n\nThe strip, Garfield, the comic strip was new... no more than maybe a month and a half since inception, since... since coming into existence... and there it was before me in print, I saw it... a comic strip... What was it called?\n\nGarfield.\n\nThe story here is of a man, a plain man. He is Jon, but he is more than that... I will get to this later, but first let us say that he's Jon, a plain man.\n\nAnd then there is a cat... Garfield.\n\nThis is the nature of the world, here. When I see the world, the politics, the future, the... the satellites in space, and... the people who put them there...\n\nYou can look at everything as a man and a cat... two beings, in harmony and at war...\n\nSo, this strip I saw; this man, Jon, and the cat, Garfield, you see...\n\nYes... hmm...\n\nIt is about everything. This... little comic is, oh, lo and behold... not so little anymore.\n\nSo yes, when I was 18, I saw this comic... and it hit me all at once, its power. I clipped it, and every day, I looked at it, and I said \"Okay... let me look at this here. What is this doing to me? Why is this so powerful?\"\n\nJon Arbuckle, he sits here, legs crossed... comfortable in his home, and he reads his newspaper... The news of the world, perhaps... and then he extends his fingers lightly, delicately... he taps his fingers on an end table, and he feels for something...\n\nWhat is it? It is something he needs, but it is not there.\n\nAnd then he looks up, slightly cockeyed, and he thinks... His newspaper's in his lap now, and he thinks this...\n\nNow where could my pipe be?\n\nThis... I always come to this, because I was a young man... I'm older now, and I still don't have the secrets, the answers, so this question still rings true, Jon looks up and he thinks...\n\nNow where could my pipe be?\n\nAnd then it happens... You see it, you see... it's almost like divine intervention, suddenly it is there, and it overpowers you...\n\nA cat is smoking a pipe.\n\nIt is the man's pipe, it's Jon's pipe, but the cat... this cat, Garfield, is smoking the pipe... and from afar, and someplace near, but not clear... near but not clear... The man calls out... Jon calls out, he is shocked. \"Garfield!\" he shouts.\n\nGarfield. The cat's name.\n\nBut, let's take a step back... let us examine this from all sides, all perspectives... and when I first came across this comic strip, I was at my father's house... a newspaper had arrived, and I picked it up for him, and brought it inside.\n\nI organized its sections for him and then, yes, the comic strip section fell out from somewhere in the middle, and landed on the kitchen floor... I picked up the paper pages and saw, up somewhere near the top of this strip... just like Jon, I was wearing an aquamarine shirt.\n\nSo I thought, \"Ah, interesting. I'll have to see this later.\" I snipped out the little comic, and held on to it... and five days later, I reexamined it... and it gripped me, I needed to find out more about this. The information I had was minimal, but enough...\n\nAn orange cat named Garfield...\n\nOkay, that seemed to be the lynchpin of this whole operation, yes. Another clue... a signature in the bottom right corner, a man's name...\n\nJim Davis.", "So... one: Garfield, orange cat, and two: Jim Davis, the creator of this cat...\n\nAnd that curiously plain man.\n\nI did not know, at the time, that his name was Jon. This strip, you see, had no mention of this man's name, and I'd never seen it before.\n\nBut I had these clues; Jim Davis, Garfield.\n\nAnd then I saw more, I spotted the tiny copyright mark in the upper left corner. Copyright 1978 to... what is this? Copyright belongs to a... PAWS Incorporated...\n\nI use the local library and mail services to track down the information I was looking for...\n\nJim Davis, a cartoonist, had created a comic strip about a cat, Garfield... and a man, Jon Arbuckle. Well, from that point on, I made sure I read the Garfield comic strips, though as I read each one, as each day passed... the strips seemed to resonate with me less and less...\n\nI sent letters to PAWS Incorporated, long letters, pages upon pages... asking if Mister Jim Davis could somehow publish just the one comic, over and over again... \"It would be meditative,\" I wrote, \"the strength of that.\"\n\nCould you imagine?", "I swear to god Nick buying Garfield is a fucking conspiracy\n\nIf you try to find Jim Davis (The Creator of Garfield) company (Paws Inc.) it's just fucking gone. Like you can search it up, google still knows what it is but the website, the twitter, the employees, are all just fucking gone. All Garfield images with the Paws Inc logo have been swapped out for the same exact image but with the nick logo instead, its fucking madness! Jim Davis never made a statement about his company just being bought out of nowhere apparently, they brought it last year but PawsInc.com/Garfield.com were still a thing until recently, like wtf.", "Garfield Kart is the physical equivalent to Halo. With an amazing storyline. And amazing characters. Most people don't understand why Garfield is racing Jon in a go kart match. But people whom have an high iq can understand the lore. Jon was fed up with Garfield being a fat cat, and had enough. He put him into a go kart and said \"Race me or you'll never see your lasagna again.\" So Garfield raced him. And they raced, and raced, and raced, and raced. Until they've given up. Jon knew he was defeated. But he never gave up. He called down Odie to join the race. It was a fierceful 2 v 1, with aliens flying around everywhere and pies being thrown But it seemed like nothing could take down Garfield. Then it happened. The final race. Every character was against Garfield. They were fed up with his winning streak. They all decided to join together and build one mega kart. One so powerful that not even Papa Luigi could take down. Garfield was still confident that he could win. Then the day approached. The race began. The sky was dark. It started to rain. It all came down to this one race. Garfield was ahead, as always. But he noticed his car was starting to fall apart. His engine started to smoke, and his wheels were slowly coming off. There was a mark on his kart saying \"Nermal <3\" Garfield was furious, and he continued to race, even when death seemed likely. His car, only having two wheels left and a burning engine, coming close to the finish line. Where Vito was waiting for him, with a hot, steamy lasagna. The car blew the third wheel. Only one wheel left, but Garfield still was going. Until. Jon pulled out a c4 and said \"THIS IS THE END FOR YOU, FAT CAT.\" He threw it at the car, and detonated it. An explosion could be heard miles away. There was nothing left of the kart but a could of smoke. But, ladies and gentlemen. This wasn't the end of garfied. Vito went to Garfield, who seemed to have passed out. He fed Garfield the lasagna, hoping it could wake him up. \"I believe in-a you, Garfield.\" Vito said. \"Wake up.\" Garfield's eyes opened. \"It's-a miracle!\" Vito shouted. Garfield got on a little board with wheels. The mega kart full of the other characters was closing in on Garfield, but the finish line was right there. The kart did a mega-boost that would leave Garfield in the dust. But using the strength Garfield got from Vito's lasagna, he pushed the board towards the finish line. They were head to head, Jon, who looked almost insane, went full power. He started throwing the other characters off to gain speed. He was doing anything he could to gain enough speed to beat Garfield. The smoke clears, the finish line was destroyed. It looks like it has been a tie. But the final replay played. Silence from the audience. Jon looked at the replay and almost cried. The winner was... Garfield.", "For those of you who never receive greeting cards, Garfield is the orange merchandising turd that creator Jim Davis pinches out every Sunday in newspapers around the world, traumatizing millions with his bland humor week after tragic week.\n\nWhen he's not licensing the hell out of Garfield with toys, bags, napkins, paper cups, socks, and probably tampons, Davis takes a break from whoring out his creation to occasionally write a new strip. Found in the \"humor\" section of newspapers, reading the comic is like having a five-finger prostate examination. Many years from now when Davis dies and CNN is undoubtedly squandering precious airtime on the passing of another sanctimonious American icon, historians will look back upon this series as a cancerous lump on the teat of humor strips. There's nothing funny about Garfield. Every single comic starts out the same: Garfield sits around being fat, he eats all the food, and his ambiguously gay owner yells at him.\n\nThe cat eats food. Alright, WE GET IT. Move on. Then as if to piss all over our better judgement, Davis has received the National Cartoonist Society: Best Humor award. Twice. Garfield gets awarded for humor and \"Family Guy\" keeps getting canceled faster than a baby at Planned Parenthood. That reminds me of how much I hate babies. Why does everyone want to save them? There are too many babies. I'm not saying we should kill them, but if you happen to be giving your baby a bath and the phone rings.. well, nobody will judge you. Besides, you might get free brownies out of it at the funeral, and brownies rule.\n\nAs if one criminally boring comic after another wasn't enough to dull your senses, \"Garfield: The Movie\" is poised to hit theaters this summer. I'm impressed that they've been able to take a 2D character with a 1D personality and bloat it into a 3D disaster. With a tagline like \"it's all about ME-OW,\" you can be guaranteed the cinematic equivalence of having your hand fed to a wood chipper when this mind-dump hits the screen. The tagline would be more fitting if it were changed to \"it's all about ME-OH-SHIT-I-THINK-I-JUST-HAD-AN-ANEURISM.\" A movie about Garfield? What next, a sequel to \"The Mask\" starring a CGI baby?", "So the Spider-Man movies got me thinking about the James Bond movies and the argument for putting American actors into that James Bond role. Why do people make such a fuss about the idea of an American actor portraying the next Bond? Spider-Man is a perfect example for comparison.\n\nAndrew Garfield. Tom Holland. AG is LA-born but England-raised. TH is England-born and raised. Yet both were picked to play some kid raised in Queens, NY. But an American actor should NEVER portray James Bond?\n\nI guess my main point is that it’s called “acting” for a reason. They portraying someone created on paper and performing their craft enough to get you to believe that they are who they are pretending to be. So why the fuss?", "Are you talking about how the bourgeois Garfield exploits the working class Jon to steal his labor, repeatedly demeaning and manipulating him because Jon is too nice and agreeable to theoretically \"dethrone\" Garfield from his kingly position?", "Join Garfield and his friends in the funniest fast and fur-ious game! What character do you want to play with? Garfield, Odie, Jon, Nermal... you choose! Take part in no-holds-barred crazy races.\n\n\n\nUse your best driving skills and the bonus objects to be first across the finish line! But watch out... it's a free-for-all out there!\n\n\n\n16 DIFFERENT CIRCUITS — stunning 3D environments from the world of Garfield (Garfield's neighborhood, the city, the Mally supermarket, the sunny farm, the misty docks, the oasis, the dark manor house, etc.)\n\n8 CHARACTERS — Garfield, Odie, Jon, Nermal, Arlene, Liz, Harry and Squeak.\n\n8 BONUSES for some crazy attacks and defenses (Exploding Diamonds, Lasagnas, Pies, Magic Wand, Pillow, Bewitching Perfume, Flying Saucers)\n\n3 GAME MODES: Grand Prix / Single Race / Time Trial\n\n3 DIFFICULTY LEVELS: 50cc, 100 cc and 150 cc\n\nDAILY CHALLENGE: Try out a new challenge every day!\n\nCUSTOMIZE your characters with tons of hoods and accessories", "garfield is quarantined in his house amidst the woes of the coronavirus COVID-19 with his human master Jon Arbuckle and his dog compatriot Odie. Jon can no longer take the pressure of being the one who has lead he and his animal companions to their deaths because he failed to stock up on toilet paper and clorox disinfectant wipes at costco before everything went to hell (he also did not wash his hands when preparing garfield his signature lasagna meal) they just lie quiet in their home waiting for the inevitable end, only gaining peace in knowing that they will occasionally hear the sweet words of Donald J. Trump over the intercom as he prays the rosary with the american people. Everyone is looking forward to their preorders of Animal Crossing New Horizons to appear on their nintendo switch console, they know that they may get at least a day or two to play their favorite game with their few remaining hours. They find a moment of grim solace as they collectively agree to forgive the asian community and Japan for starting the coronavirus in the first place on account of their favorite video games company being based in Japan, before Trump comes in with another message to confess, sounding a bit like he is choking on tears, that the american government is to blame for the recent pandemic. that trump had sent mad scientists to inject the virus into animal carcasses in the chinese markets. Suddenly in shock at this admission of betrayal, the garfield gang cry themselves to sleep with thoughts about how they really are the monsters in this world and that Japan and China are completely different countries. Garfield presses down to feel a tenderness in his breast and tickle in his lungs, with his next breath he wheezes.", "Greetings, mr. Field, Garfield if I may. I am a huge fan and advocate of your hatred toward the day on the Gregorian Callander known as Monday (the day after Sunday and the day before Tuesday, for clarification). As I am writing this Monday edges ever closer and I cannot put into words how much this makes my blood boil, how much it grinds my gears. And to put it frankly, really cheeses me off (I apologise for my crude language mr. Field). The reason I am contacting you is to ask if you would like to join my movement of “just ignore Monday’s, they’ll go away eventually”. I only created this movement recently but I believe if we can recruit enough people to our cause and if they also “choose to just ignore Monday’s” we can shorten the week to just 6 days and eradicate Monday’s.\n\nMr. Field if you choose to respond to my request for aid I believe this would further our cause by leaps and bounds.\n\nSincerely, a man that hates Monday’s just as much as you", "Garfield eats, I think that’s been pretty well established. His lifelong love affair with pasta and pizza is legendary. In fact, if Garfield could design the perfect restaurant, it would feature lasagna and pizza, and because he’s on the lazy side, he’d want to make it simple to get his paws on the food as quickly as possible.\n\nWell, Garfield’s dream has come true, and it’s in the form of a new innovative concept restaurant, GarfieldEATS, opening in the heart of downtown Toronto soon. So here’s why it’s great:\n\nFirst (and perhaps most importantly), the food is delicious. All ingredients are farmed to plate, meaning no preservatives, no artificial coloring, no fertilizers, no GMOs, nothing but good honest food, and that’s saying a mouthful!\n\nNaturally, lasagna is on the menu, along with pizza shaped like Garfield’s head no less! And of course for you Java Junkies, a Garfuccino flavored coffee. And for those with a sweet tooth, there’s dark chocolate!\n\nNext, it’s easy and fun. Easy in that you can order from an app either at home or right in cashier las store, and fun in that you can be entertained with Garfield cartoons, games, and special offers.\n\nWe’re calling this an entergaging app, both engaging and entertaining, and over 2 years went into the research and development of this unique restaurant concept. I have to hand it to Nathan Mezra and Pascal Haider, co-founders of GarfieldEATS. Their entrepreneurial spirit brought their concept to reality last year when they opened in Dubai, and Nathan’s enthusiasm is the driving force here in Toronto. I did dish out some food for thought with Nathan, I said “Nathan, take care of the cat, and the cat will take care of you,” and I believe he has.\n\nWe’ve been working as partners to conceive a dining experience which recognizes a shift in consumer behavior, and embraces digital convenience. Instead of a quick service restaurant, think of a quick mobile restaurant, and I’m proud that we’ve been sensitive to healthy living concerns with the food, all the way down to environmentally friendly packaging.\n\nToronto, you’re in for a treat! Stop by the store and download the GarfieldEATS app and prepare for a new and delicious experience!", "The cosmological theory explains the existence of God, but not a specific God. This means that a physical form of Garfield the Cat could be watching from the afterlife. The theory says that the intricate and complicated design of our universe (Every leaf in the world being different, every grain of dirt having some form of a difference) is clearly made by an intelligent being, most athiests would argue that our universe has always existed, and that there is no God. If there really is no God, there is no meaning to life. Much like how if Garfield the Cat doesn't exist, the shows and comics (aka bible) he stars in are meaningless too, this may be a coincidence, but I highly doubt that. On top of this, if the world had existed for eternities why is it only burning out now? Pretty convient for the sake of an argument, hmm? So anyways, the theory says that the universe was made by an intelligent being that doesn't follow the laws of matter (Look at how much the cat eats, he has broken the laws of physics with ease as he was the creator of them.) or time. (He has outlived thousands in his lifetime, and has not aged physically or mentally over the course of 70+ years!) These both point straight to Garfield the Cat, this many 'coincidences' is very unlikely. It really does apply to all religions, if it includes an afterlife and something that rules it, chances are their fake, made up God is actually the merciful Garfield the Cat. You may all laugh this off as a joke, but the evidence is undeniable.", "Wow Jon, are you really bothering me with your mortal desires on a Monday? You really have sunken to a new low. Do you actually believe I would subjugate myself to such a disgusting creature such as you? How pathetic. Mmmmm, whats that between your legs? Is that... lasagna? Well, why didn't you open with that? I'd do anything for lasagna Jon, you should know this by now. It's what I do. (slurping noises)", "A porn where a Jon Arbuckle is reading the news paper and a he looks down and a hot girl dressed as Garfield is sucking on his cock and Jon is like 'GAAARFEILD!!!!!' and Garfield looks at the camera and that voice actor from the cartoon says 'I hate Mondays' and continues to suck on his cock....\n\n.....And after Jon blows his load and Garfield sucks it all up she has a satisfied look on her face until she realizes something and then the voice actor from the cartoon says 'Hey, that wasn't Lasagna!'", "Then make a Garfield minus Garfield version, where Jon just ejaculates over nothing.", "Jon Arbuckle is reading the news paper and a he looks down and realizes he's erect and Jon is like 'GAAARFEILD!!!!!' and after Jon blows his load and his cum mysteriously disappears into thin air.", "There is honestly nothing that Garfield Minus Garfield does not improve.", "I can't speak for everyone, but watching a bj sounds way better than watching a dude's dick bounce up and down until he fires blanks.", "Honestly it's more about seeing the look of pure ecstasy on Jon Arbuckle's face as he nuts that really gets me hard.", "I love his videos on professional wrestling and not even a big fan of that", "The audacity of posting this video on Monday morning", "It really is a bit over the top how every minor piece of information is spun into some shocking revelation, but I guess it helps engagement to overdramatize. \n \nI also always feel a little deflated when I watch one of these long-form video essays and notice a very obvious and easily verifiable minor mistake. Like when he shows Davis making a meta joke about getting in trouble with the AMA in a comic about a weird doctor's visit and says it's a joke about getting in trouble with \"parents groups\". Maybe this is nitpicking but if you don't know what the AMA is, you shouldn't just guess. Not taking the second you'd need to google that puts a bit of a dent in the video's credibility. \n \nThere's a third thing that was a bit off-putting about the video, but I'll save that for another comment later on.", "He sounds like matpat.", "I think I speak for everyone here when I say: Wallaby, seriously, get help, bro.", ">I guess it helps engagement to overdramatize. \n\nNot if I turn it off after 5 minutes waiting for him to finish the intro...", "I love it", "Yep,,,probably could have the same content but in a 10 min video....I was out after the 5 minute intro didn't tell me anything.", "Is that guy having a mental breakdown ...? A bot mis-firing?\n\nNot all of his replies are copy pasted. Some are relevant and seem like actual replies he typed out", "I assumed he was just going overboard with memelol shit posting, but I really can't tell. \n\nWhatever it is, I hope it's treatable.", "I think wallabyupstairs1496 has a screw loose when it comes to garfield :\\", "What is going on with these comments? I feel like I'm having a fever dream.", "Didn't this restaurant shut down a while ago?\n\nOne of these opened up in London, Ontario and promptly shut down because it was so shit nobody ate there.", "https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2020/11/garfield-eats-toronto-shut-down/", "Bit too try-hard.", "That user is either a walking meme, or insane. See how many comments they have in this submission. It's wild.", "then i need to try harder", "It's criminal that this post is under 100 upvotes. SEW is a god tier youtuber. Dude puts so much effort into his videos. I'm so happy to see his channel growing as much as it has, but he's still CRIMINALLY underrated. Awesome video as usual.", "i can't afford it", "yes", "it's not", "yes but only garfieeld", "Around 15 years ago, I was 9 years old. Back then, I was really into Garfield. My uncle worked for Jim Davis, and he would always bring me the latest Garfield TV shows and movies on VHS. Our family wasn’t too keen on spending a lot of money, so we used VHS tapes for a while. Although that is interesting, i’m not here to tell you about that. I am here to tell you about the events that transpired on my 9th birthday, and how they scarred me for life. It was exactly 9:34 PM when my uncle arrived at my house with my present. He said happy birthday, and gave me an old, somewhat damaged VHS tape. It just said GARFIELD in big, bold letters on it. He said it was special, as it had never been released to the public. I would only realize later why that was. I, eager to see this new Garfield episode, hastily popped it in the VHS player. Then, I sat down and began watching. It began as a normal Garfield episode, up to the point where it pans to a shot of Garfield looking depressed at the doctor’s office. 9 seconds later, a nurse walks in and mutters 4 words— “Garfield, you have AIDS.”. Garfield’s eyes then turned blood-red, and he looked straight at the viewer. It was like he was staring into my soul. The screen went to static, then panned to Garfield approaching Nermal with what was a shotgun. He muttered one thing— “Let me have my revenge” before shooting Nermal in the head. His eyes became even more red, and he repeated this with all of the characters, until he finally got to Jon. Garfield, covered in blood, approached Jon in a melancholy way and proceeds to say one thing to him— “thank you for all lasagna”. He then takes out a knife in a mad rage and stabs Jon in the heart, covering the screen in blood. The final scene was Garfield sitting in a torn and blood covered bed. He says “I now have my revenge on thise who wringed me, and now I can rest.”. At this point, he was all grey and his eyes were simply black ovals, with blood dripping down his cheeks. He then took out a pistol and pointed it at himself, and fired. Garfield’s head splattered on the wall behind him, and one last message appeared on screen: IM SORRY JIM.", "Gigguk is a solid 2nd. And then mothers basement a good 3rd\n\namong anime commentators", "Summary: The internet has taken to making horror Garfield fanart where Garfield is a Lovecraftian-insectoid-demon that hunts Jon Arbuckle. Why?\n\n* Because [Garfield Minus Garfield](https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/) pointed out that Garfield never actually speaks, and when you remove Garfield from the picture, it’s clear Jon Arbuckle is struggling with a profound mental illness: depression, schizophrenia, something.\n\n* Because the #1 most common punchline in a Garfield strip is “Jon is pathetic.”\n\n* Because the #2 most common punchline in a Garfield strip is “Garfield torments Jon.”\n\n* Because Garfield, forty years later, is a merchandizing behemoth that has attained almost omnipresent proportions in our culture.\n\nErgo, fanartists find that cosmic-horror Garfield is not only shockingly antithetical to the marketed image of Garfield, but it is also shockingly in tune with both the consumer reality of Garfield merchandizing and the subtext of the actual published Garfield comic strips.", "Different people have different approaches. I much prefer the more personal approach favored by him and hbomberguy, to someone like Sarah Z, who is very much on the dry side when she reports various internet events. I want to know where people are coming from when they deliver this kind of knowledge, why it's such a big deal to them. There's not a lot I can get from Whang or Austin McConnell or Sarah Z's internet history videos that I can out of, say, the Heritage Posts tumblr blog she seems to scour for content. Dry writing is great for encyclopedias, but if I have to sit through a multi-hour video, I want some human connection, to acknowledge that their interpretation of these events are colored by their own experiences and worldview. But again, different people have different approaches, and people have different preferences.", "Thank you so much for summarising that! \nI watched part of this video, but it got creepy to a point where I couldn't bring myself to finish it, despite my curiosity... \nI'm glad I didn't miss out on all of it at least." ]	65	videos	What the Internet did to Garfield \| Super Eyepatch Wolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6EhR47EM-g	/r/videos/comments/rf1me3/1997_jarrell_f5_tornado_raw_footage_of_first/	[ "Damn, that kid with a cellphone at 11:00 is pimp as fuck in 97", "Ripped right through a school. Fucking horrible.", "Really horrible tornado absolutely massive it leveled the whole town", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC \n\n> The Motorola StarTAC mobile phone was introduced at the price of $1000. \n\nPhones are a bargain these days", "[Motorola StarTAC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC) \n \n >The Motorola StarTAC, first released on 3 January 1996, is often assumed to be the first ever clamshell (flip) mobile phone. Technically, however, NEC had been releasing flip phones on NTT Docomo's PDC Mova network long before 1996, namely the TZ-804 and TZ-1501, both respectively launched in 1991 and late 1994. The StarTAC is the successor of the MicroTAC, a semi-clamshell design first launched in 1989. Whereas the MicroTAC's flip folded down from below the keypad, the StarTAC folded up from above the display.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "If you really think about it. A tornado is just God flushing his toilet after dropping a giant deuce." ]	6	videos	1997 Jarrell F5 Tornado, raw footage of first touch down with interviews of sheltering travellers
https://youtu.be/ibpdNqrtar0	/r/videos/comments/rf20k2/this_ciliate_is_about_to_die/	[ "Narrator sounds kinda like Hank Green", "It is in fact Hank Green.", "its crazy how bombastic Hank can be yet so sedate and calming like he is here", "👍🏻", "It was a good run. It was nice to know you ciliate. RIP.", "Ciliates are single-celled organisms that, at some stage in their life cycle, possess cilia, short hairlike organelles used for locomotion and food gathering.", "What a gentle, beautiful meditation on death.", "Oh ciiiliate, you're breaking apart.", "Was just thinking the same. \nHe could narrate anything and it would be my new goto podcast for sleep.", "I've seen this before. To me it's way too preachy and long winded. Like there was a point trying to be made that got lost in hundreds of words.", "It would have been better without the masturbatory monologue.", "Lol", "within cells interlinked", "\"This is not a definition, this is an attempt to draw a line, to create a boundary.\"\n\nWhat does this gentleman think \"de-fine\" means if not 'to draw a line' or 'to create a boundary'?", "You have the ability to mute and listen to something else while watching", "\"Aaah shit my metabolism fell out, damn\"", "This is missing NSFW tag", "The idea of single cells that also have different bits is so weird to me. Like, my hands are made out of cells, my nails are made out of cells, my blood is made out of cells.\n\nDo humans have sub-cellular organs/functions? Like are there living parts of our body- our body, not gut flora/fauna - that isn't cellular?", "That cilia is not wearing any pants OP!", "Check out [Joe Pera](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSUilYKcRMA) for a similar vibe", "Yes, humans have sub-cellular mechanisms that allow cells to function properly. For example, the flow of electrons (a subatomic element) within the mitochondria (\"powerhouse\" of the cell) produces ATP providing energy for all cellular functions.", "thank you, perfect for a winter snuggle", "[This wasp that's the size of some single-celled organisms is baffling to me.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphragma_mymaripenne)" ]	25	videos	This ciliate is about to die
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rf2z79/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rf2z79/deleted_by_user/	[ "Freaks me out that he says things like \"earning good money\" and \"doing honest work\" in reference to gameplay and without a hint of irony", "Who’s this guy? I like him 👍🏾", "The Outlaw Pass pays for itself if you rank up enough; or at least it had been doing so up until a few months ago when I last played.\n\nEdit: Why are you downvoting me? I'm right.", "Jack Sather, says it right there in YouTube smh", "this hit home", "Its fine since the meat of the game is on the campaign, MP is just an extra.", "Gamers ruined gaming.", "> The Outlaw Pass pays for itself\n\nwords I never thought I'd see together like that", "Good grief. Unnecessarily long video. Clickbait title. Unironically uses the word \"cuck\" in 2021. Complains about greed in the multiplayer section of a Take Two game, as if this hasn't been noticed by literally everyone. \n\nWoof...", "I'm so happy my buddies and I played the HELL out of the MP before they nerfed gold. We bought everything and bought everything, said \"wellp, this was fun,\" and never played again. Wonderful experience. Doubt we'll play it again.", "> Unironically uses the word \"cuck\" in 2021.\n\nLmao what? I guess my buddies and I would be banned from the internet if someone from Reddit dropped into our Discord channel.", "No one is saying you should be banned from anything. Your immediate victim state is telling, though.\n\nI'm just pointing out how embarrassing and cringeworthy it is to use that word unironically. Might as well call stuff you don't like \"gay\" like it's the late 90s, or something...", "I guess if you're surrounded by people that don't find it embarrassing or cringeworthy it makes for one hell of a good time not to worry about the filters society thinks they can muzzle around everyone.", "dude you're a cuck", "You boys have a lot of fun throwing the word cuck around, huh. Stay wild and free", "Lol, bang-on about victim state", "LMAO. \n\nIf I was surrounded by people that threw around creepy, bizarre slang like that I would find some new friends. \n\n...and this is not some \"woke\" censorship shit. It's just not being a creep.", "Wild and free, the American way. I don't have to care what other people think, and never will.", "Yup, that's certainly the impression you give off", ">not to worry about the filters society thinks they can muzzle around everyone.\n\nHaha, again with the victim complex.", "would you like to talk to a manager karen", "I think he was talking about the money in the game. Kind of like monopoly money. And the \"honest work\" part is a meme. A meme is a humorous in-joke. Have a good one, Grandpa!", "Wow, it's in game money, thanks for explaining, junior", "I don't think people realize that you mean this literally and think you mean \"The Outlaw Pass is so good, you'll be happy you bought it!\"\n\nWhat they mean is when you rank up the Outlaw Pass usually near completion, you receive the same (or nearly the same) amount of gold you used to buy it. As long as you don't spend the 15 gold you earn back, you can continue buying the passes consecutively.\n\nWhether they're worth having is up to personal preference", "Yeah, you get it. Thanks for putting it more eloquently.", "does it freak you out when anyone says literally anything about a video game? none of it is real...why draw the line at talking about money? its almost as if context is an important aspect of language, cunt", "It's getting clearer and clearer now. Young people are the future" ]	27	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qrhrV6lnvrc&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/rf30rm/worst_rated_exchange_office_and_how_they_trick/	[ "that channel has helped me a lot while travelling to prague! best czech channel imo", "This is not saying anything in this video is wrong. However, at the end he says 'just use your credit card'. That is also risky. You have to be careful with cards for conversion charges. These are different that foreign transaction fees that some cards do not have. It is also called DCC or Dynamic Currency Conversion. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_currency_conversion", "[Dynamic currency conversion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_currency_conversion) \n \n >Dynamic currency conversion (DCC) or cardholder preferred currency (CPC) is a process whereby the amount of a credit card transaction is converted at the point of sale, ATM or internet to the currency of the card's country of issue. DCC is generally provided by third party operators in association with the merchant, and not by a card issuer, such as Visa or Mastercard. Card issuers permit DCC operators to offer DCC in accordance with the card issuers’ processing rules.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)" ]	3	videos	Worst Rated Exchange Office And How They Trick Tourists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utiVTbVR2bQ&t=14s	/r/videos/comments/rf32oa/spooky_talent/	[ "harder candy inside?", "That guy sucks. (sorry, I’ll see myself out)", "It's fake. An ad for Chupa Chups. \n\nThe [follow up is great though](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jRnUmxiS-g)" ]	3	videos	Spooky Talent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJNF2_dCWkg	/r/videos/comments/rf3ke0/protein_is_not_protein/	[ "Plant protein isn't really that great. We ought to eat more meat.", "I wont stop eating chicken, eggs, milk and fish until someone can point me towards a protein source with a similar or better amino acid profile.", "I thought at some point in my life I would switch to plant based diet. But more I learn the more skeptical I am of purely plant based diet. Being a vegan IMO is just unhealthy.", "When considering what to eat, there are other factors to consider besides the nutritional value.", "Protein quality is one factor in deciding what to eat. As a global health and a global warming issue, we have to consider other ramifications when saying \"we ought to eat more meat\". If we all suddenly started eating more meat there would be compounding health and environmental problems.", "Sure, but nutritional value is the usually the first factor i consider.", "I try not to have too much red meat in my diet to keep the cholesterol and monounsaturated fats in check, but at least once a week im searing a rib eye in the cast iron.", "I decide what to eat based on nutritional value and how it interacts with my work out routine. If theres a plant out there that can get me to my protein goal with out having to eat ridiculous amounts of it, ill gladly substitute chicken for it, but for now, bird is the word.", "> As a global health and a global warming issue\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGG-A80Tl5g&t=1s\n\nI am not so sure about that. Global warming is more due to polluting industries and shipping etc.\n\nAlso for the maximum period of human evolution we ate mostly meat based diet. So we can't just change that now.", "Beef, eggs, chicken and bacon are must. There is no other way to that. Plant protein are great supplementary and taste good. But we cannot replace them as primarily source of protein", "> consider besides the nutritional value.\n\nMeat always have more nutritional value along with other amino acids that are very much lacking in plant based proteins. IMO meat based protein should be primarily and plant based more supplementary.", "> There are many factors that go into determining the score so\n\nI tried both and combination. Meat based diet is a clear winner from my experience. Supplementing plant based protein is great. But Meat protein is must. There is no healthy way around that.", "Meat is superior in the amino acid department, but it is not universally superior to plants for general nutrition.", "It still doesnt fit into my diet more than once a week. I could probably work it into my daily calorie intake with no issues, but im already hitting my macro goals and seeing results.", "Im not really into getting militant over dietary choices and think a pro beef attitude sounds just as silly as an anti beef one. That being said, Im not giving up eating animals until a better nutritional alternative presents itself. The cow, chicken, and pig will continue to pass my lips indefinitely until some scientific super food is created.", "This video and it’s contents have no scientific value. Nothing more than the biased beliefs of some jerkoff who’s looking for validation. Millions of people are livjng healthy lives on a plant based diet. The ‘complete protein’ theory was dispelled like 10 years ago. ALL plants contain ALL essential amino acids just in varying ratios. The leading cause of death in America is heart disease, with cancer and diabetes close behind. All of which are combatted by a plant based diet. Plus animal agriculture is unimaginably cruel and destroying the planet.", "Yes, dietary cholesterol has little effect on blood cholesterol levels but meats high in fat (saturated fats) can raise your cholesterol levels.", "Take some BCAAS with your workout and shut the fuck up.", "Did you even watch the video?", "So you're saying I can still get jacked on lentils, I just have to eat a suitcase full of them a day?", "Yes.", "... varying ratios... That’s exactly what is said in the video. That means your comment has absolutely no scientific value either. And can you point me to your source about: ALL plants have ALL essential amino acids? Please, a scientific source.", "what polluting industries?", "Agricultural, probably.", "mostly used to feed?", "19% of our global greenhouse gas emissions come from “growing things”, including plants and animals. Compare that to 16% for planes, trucks and cargo ships.", "This video is propaganda for meat eaters. Pick one thing (protein quality) and then ignore the millions of people and body of evidence that plant based and vegetarian diets are perfectly viable even to the highest levels of human performance.", "You should definitely watch the video.", "This video starts off with a few factual statements then goes off the rails and tries to tie those facts to things they're not.\n\nProtein is protein. You can get a \"complete\" protein by just eating a varied diet. Mix some brown rice with your lentils and bam full complete protein. And tons of other things like that.\n\nWe need to eat less meat as a civilization and pseudoscentific crap like this does nothing but reinforce bad eating habits.", "Like bats and pangolins?", "> 19% of our global greenhouse gas emissions come from “growing things”, including plants and animals.\n\nWhich won't change much. As wild life too adds to that.", "In reality, combining the correct foods with the lentils.", "Here’s one, but a google search will give you abundant options to read..\n\nhttps://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.CIR.0000018905.97677.1F", "What is it with this dude and Brad Pitt? Man crush?", "It is not really advisable to get your information primarily from youtube videos, especially when those videos position themselves against wide scientific consensus. Here is the most significant study on this topic:\n\nhttps://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:b0b53649-5e93-4415-bf07-6b0b1227172f", "Quite a lot of this video presents partial information in order to create the impression that things are much worse for vegetarians / vegans than they actually are. For example, it references a study of vegetarian and omnivore athletes, which concluded that vegetarian athletes should really aim for 10-25g more protein than they are currently getting. This study can be found here:\n\n[https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/11/12/3016](https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/11/12/3016)\n\nThe video, however, omits all criticism and response to this study, which can be found very easily. One response I found here:\n\n[https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/4/1183/htm](https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/4/1183/htm)\n\nA notable comment is that DIAAS does not cover low-protein foods, such as fruits and vegetables, which vegetarians eat a lot of. While these foods are low protein, they don't have zero protein. Two examples I checked were that 100g of broccoli has 3g of protein and one orange has 1g of protein. These are tiny amounts, but over the course of a day could easily add up to the supposed 10-25g protein deficit claimed by the study. The response also mentions that the study neglects to adjust its data for cooking - all the information comes from studying raw food, but it is known that cooking makes protein more bioavailable.\n\nThe response authors consider that the flaws they identified with the study mean that the suggested deficit of 10-25g available protein in vegetarian athletes basically disappears. Maybe they're right, maybe they're not. I don't know. The issue is that this video doesn't even mention these responses and criticisms. It presents a case as though no response was ever printed, which it was. This essentially marks the video as propaganda. I don't think it's a good idea to treat it as a reliable source of information as a result. I would definitely recommend reading the referenced study and response though :)", "What do you mean?", "A variety of wild animals like bison and water buffaloes and other contributes to methane release too. I was implying that. That emission by plants and animals remains pretty much same.", "Oh gotcha, I’m sure they contribute to it. I don’t have the data to understand to what degree though.", "very little. The main cause of excess methane release from the cattle industry is the types of food they are given. Animals that are eating their natural diet produce far, far less methane. There are also 93 million cows in the USA. There are about half a million bison and only even 25m deer. There are about 9 million wild pigs but 74 million farmed pugs. \n\nthis guy is just hot air", "Yes loading on carbs to get that protein is genius. Thanks for science.", "You've linked a post written by Angela Genoni and Joel Craddock - two people in the \"plant-based\" space. Unsurprisingly, they paired up with David Goldman of the \"Game Changers Institute\" (yes the same Game Changers, the vegan documentary makers) to write an article criticizing protein quality arguments. \\[Current Nutrition Reports (2021) 10:93-98\\]In the article, they don't seem to understand how limiting amino acids work because they make this argument that the Western plant-based diet exceeds the RDA for protein and total IAA requirements.Even if you get a bunch of total indispensable amino acids (IAA), it doesn't matter if you don't get enough of one IAA because when one IAA is limiting, the rest aren't utilized. This is the whole reason DIAAS looks at each individual amino acid. So, I have my reservations about these two authors.\n\nNonetheless, let's look at the Genoni and Craddock rebuttal to that paper. Genoni and Craddock are saying that well these authors don't seem to have accounted for these low protein foods so maybe the athletes would have indeed been hitting the recommended intake for endurance athletes. Now they claim that cooking increases absorbability, but the paper they linked was more about sprouting/fermenting. Do vegetarians all go out and sprout their grains or legumes? Genoni and Craddock like to play the \"what if\" game, but they didn't mention how certain processing methods decreases the protein value of plant foods...\n\nRegardless, the omnivore intake of protein was much higher and that protein was much more utilizable. So this doesn't really diminish the guy who made the video's point. Let's say Genoni and Craddock are right and say 10g worth of protein from fruits and vegetables was unfairly ignored. Then the athletes would be getting only 1.2g protein/kg bodyweight. That's barely the lower end of the updated recommended protein intake (1.2g 〜1.6g/kg) for normal, non-athlete people.\n\nSo I mean I guess the guy could have said \"actually there's a rebuttal to this paper, but it doesn't really diminish my point but I wanted to mention it anyway to be fair...\" ?\n\nBut you're saying \"There is a weak rebuttal to one (of the many) papers this guy cited, hence the video is clearly propaganda and the video cannot be trusted.\" Give me a break. Even if the \"vegetarian athletes don't get enough protein\" section was omitted, all his other points would still stand. You could go ahead and try and address those too, that would be more convincing.", "Didn't he mention that exact thing in the video? \nAnd showed specifically how that mixed meal has an inferior amino acid profile to just steak?", ">I guess the guy could have said \"actually there's a rebuttal to thispaper, but it doesn't really diminish my point but I wanted to mentionit anyway to be fair...\" ?\n\nBasically, yes. If you're producing a video which purports to be informative, you shouldn't wash over publications which oppose your presented thesis. Ideally, you should have the skill to present your critics' viewpoints in an honest and neutral manner, but at the very least I would expect some acknowledgement of the contents of the debate. The failure to do this throughout makes the video propaganda.\n\n>But you're saying \"There is a weak rebuttal to one (of the many) papers this guy cited, hence the video is clearly propaganda and the video cannot be trusted.\"\n\nI gave an example, but the same is true at every other beat in the video. He only cited studies which supported his view, and never studies which opposed it, or criticisms and responses to the studies he referenced, despite these being very easy to find. He then only interviews a scientist who agrees with his viewpoint, and nobody who opposes it.\n\nPerhaps you personally have looked into all this, and concluded the same direction as the video, that's fine. You seem to want me to refute the video, which I cannot. It could well be correct. I really don't have the skill or knowledge to address the points in the video, studies referenced, or even your post - but what I can do is identify the video accurately as propaganda. That is, being a carefully selected presentation of (very) partial information, designed to draw people towards a particular stance, it's the definition of it.", "What I've Learned is very often a quite misleading channel and people listen because most people don't know a lot about nutrition and nutrition is already filled with a lot of myths and misconceptions.\n\nHe is calling out the documentary for missing a few key points yet he is completely ignoring some very obvious other key points making his entire video seem very one-sided and misleading, he hardly even considers any positives of a vegan/vegetarian diet and if he does it's only to undermine it further.\n\nI would not be surprised at all if WIL is in the pocket of someone, some of his videos has been very sketchy and he never responds to criticism or engages in dialog, at least from what i have seen.", "OK so you found one paper that is a light rebuttal to one of the papers the guy cited, but you understand it does not detract from his overall point. You've explained you don't have the skill to rebut the video. Yet, you assume that there must be information somewhere out there that contradicts \"every beat\" of the video? \n\n\nLike what is supposed to be wrong? Either this thing DIAAS he mentioned exists or it doesn't. Animal proteins have more amino acids than plant proteins or they don't. \n\n\nEven then, didn't the guy say multiple times things like \"you can make plant proteins higher quality by combining them,\" \"the vegan athletes could very easily fix their lack of protein with one scoop of soy protein,\" or \"with effort, you can get all the protein you need on a vegan diet\" ..? Doesn't sound like he's hard selling only one point of view. \n\nImagine if North Korea was like \"the barbaric American pigs are the reason you don't have enough food. That said, some Americans are nice guys...\"", ">Yet, you assume that there must be information somewhere out there that contradicts \"every beat\" of the video?\n\nNo. I tend to watch videos like this alongside [scholar.google.com](https://scholar.google.com) as reference. It's definitely worthwhile and I'd recommend. It means you can quickly pick up when a video is not being completely honest about the state of scientific understanding. If you search for relevant terms on there, and the video you're watching only mentions one notable study, check what the others say. If it mentions a study, check to see if there are any responses. And so on.\n\nIn this case, one example which shows up early on is [https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s13668-020-00348-8.pdf](https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s13668-020-00348-8.pdf) If your instinct is to find flaws in this study, please spare yourself the energy. My point isn't that the studies contradicting the video are unflawed, or even right, but that they exist. In failing to acknowledge any of them, the study creates a misleading impression of the state of the science on this topic.\n\n>Like what is supposed to be wrong?\n\nPotentially, nothing. It might all be correct. However, as we're not experts in this topic, and have not researched it, we don't know either way. The video itself, being propaganda, is not a reliable source to draw conclusions from.\n\n>Even then, didn't the guy say multiple times things like \"you can makeplant proteins higher quality by combining them,\" \"the vegan athletescould very easily fix their lack of protein with one scoop of soyprotein,\" or \"with effort, you can get all the protein you need on avegan diet\" ..? Doesn't sound like he's hard selling only one point ofview.\n\nI don't follow you here. All those quotations are his one point of view. Contradictory evidence, for instance that there is no lack of protein among vegetarian athletes in the first place, is not presented or even acknowledged.\n\n>Imagine if North Korea was like \"the barbaric American pigs are thereason you don't have enough food. That said, some Americans are niceguys...\"\n\nOk? This would still be propaganda, obviously. I've said that the video only presents partial information which draw the viewer towards a particular stance, not that that stance is necessarily extreme, violent, or unjustified. Just that this video constitutes propaganda for it, which it pretty clearly does.", "> [A high-protein \$~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1\$, exclusively plant-based diet \$plant-based whole foods + soy protein isolate supplementation\$ is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet \$mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation\$ in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/)\n\nA a vegan athlete I've taken some time to look into this subject. A lot of the protein bioavailability knowledge we have now rests on rodent experiments as much as a hundred years old. Others come from pigs, closer to humans, but eating raw pulses. Inhibiting components are typically denatured in cooking so this always leaves me scratching my head.\n\nSo the study above is the best I've seen to date to observe actual human results comparing plant-based and animal protein. Even with higher leucine divided over the day, omnis didn't gain more muscle.\n\nCame as a surprise to me! I've been supplementing BCAAs (for leucine) as I figured that looked like the limiting amino acid. \n\nIt is weird he didn't mention this study, it was a pretty big deal for people in this area. And just to round things off:\n\n> [Replacement of 3% energy from animal protein with plant protein was inversely associated with overall mortality \$risk decreased 10% in both men and women\$ and cardiovascular disease mortality \$11% lower risk in men and 12% lower risk in women\$.](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2768358)" ]	50	videos	Protein is not protein.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rf3ojz/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rf3ojz/deleted_by_user/	[ "Actually not a terrible song for that time period of nu metal / emo stuff. I still dig it!", "I love them.", "So much middle school angst", "I remember discovering this song from the [opening scene of Die Hard 4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FdvWuSl7eY)" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/ZhwK57hBPmA	/r/videos/comments/rf3qmd/moist_critkal_offers_25k_to_find_some_of_his_lost/	[ "I'm not sure I get what is going through his mind...\n\nHe says these videos are \"lost\"... but they aren't lost. He deleted them off the server where they were being hosted. Now... he claims that it isn't true that once something is on the internet, it is there forever... and I guess he is correct that if you delete that content, and there isn't a copy somewhere, then it is indeed gone. So... what... he's counting on someone having copied his videos to be hosted somewhere else other than YouTube, or for someone to have copied his videos and have reposted them on their own accounts? \n\nI know there are downloaders for YouTube... and there likely were some back when he posted those videos... but the SOP for almost everyone was and is to link to the YouTube video where it is... not copy it like a meme and repost it from your own account.\n\nIf anyone did download copies of his earlier stuff... wouldn't it most likely be one of his fans, and specifically fans that he had at the time he was posting those videos? I guess this video is a way to ask the people who follow him, if they did indeed download any of his stuff.\n\nKind of like \"Hey... I know I deleted these things, but did anyone make a copy of anything I deleted?\"... yes? Maybe?", "Well im rich...", "hes basically banking on finding an archiver. some people just save everything they can find on the internet. its a hobby. /r/DataHoarder/ type shit. who knows maybe someone really liked his video or had really bad internet and downloaded it on a really old harddrive they still have.", "That's why, I guess, it took me a few sentences to work out that his video would be a shout out to anyone who is likely to have archived his videos.. since that kind of person would be most likely to see this video and his request. I didn't know about the data hoarders sub... but I didn't even think to look.\n\nMy first thought was a site like [Archive.org](https://Archive.org), since they do have a video category, and the site had archives of websites I built years ago. There's nothing there for \"moist critkal\", and I don't think I'm seeing anything archived from YouTube at all. There are 7 million plus videos stored in [Archive.org](https://Archive.org), and 26 billion videos on YouTube. That kind of scope floors me, when I apply it to this problem. Unless someone backed up his videos specifically because it was content created by him, you'd need a 2nd YouTube, to archive YouTube." ]	5	videos	Moist Critkal offers 25k to find some of his lost YT vids
https://youtu.be/hcCra13y32c	/r/videos/comments/rf3xwx/probably_the_best_smashing_pumpkins_song/	[ "I like it, but it's not the best on that album for me", "I'd say hummer is my personal high, but in terms of kinda giving a look at their sound good is the best place to start", "👌🏼 I love that track... sends me right back to 1994 getting drunk on cheap booze!", "I was too young to drink but I remember my uncle's getting 40oz's for real cheap😅😅", "Love this song so much, but Silverfuck is what really does it for me. \n\nSaw them on the Mellon Collie tour.", "That's such a good one. I fucking love that song", "Feel USA has the best drum (Jimmy) part but Cheeub is probably the better song. Hummer is great but starts a little slow.\n\nUgh… iOS new autocorrect is the worst!!! Geek USA.", "Correct, I was gonna do geek usa as well, someday and Hummer has to be my favorite iha solo fr", "Mayonnaise", "Overrated band", "That was really good.\n\nOP, check out Bill Stevenson. He's the drummer from the Descendents and he's well known for his playing style which is sort of similar to yours. Lots of fills.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/6aTy3RcgrSU", "I have my sound off but I could tell what he was playing.\nThat whole album is great. I had the cassette stuck in my car stereo for almost all of 1994.", "Yo, I fuck with them, thanks for sending🙏🏾🖤", "Such a classic, he guitar and drumming top notch", "Wow, thanks. I really appreciate it. I put a lot of love into the songs I play", "This band was one of my favorites in high school /college. It's too bad they peaked at gish.", "Gish is a classic, I feel like they made strides with the next few records tho", "Lots of great choices on your channel for what songs you covered so far. I think we have similar musical tastes I'm gonna check a few more out, thanks bro keep up the great work!", "Yo, thanks, I have a lot up, lemme know if you like anything else🖤🙏🏾", "I agree this is one of their greatest songs. It hold a TON of nostalgia for me, so I could be bias. Those memories give me reason to both love and hate this time of my life. Yes, a woman is involved, of course.", "I feel ya, so many memories, both good and bad", "Their whole run of albums at the time through and including Adore are great. I still have the crazy singles boxed set they released on the back of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness.", "Man, now I have to re-listen to this whole album. The intro drums are great on Cherub Rock.", "That's awesome. I was in high school when Siamese Dream came out. Missed out on Gish, but liked Disarm so bought the album. So glad I did as the whole thing was just magic. Went back for Gish.\n\nOne of my fond college memories was waiting outside the local record shop for the midnight release of Melon Collie. That is definitely an experience that younger generations will never get.", "You really do and these are quite excellent! I'm a fan of the MF Doom cover, Mac DeMarco, Grizzly Bear, Crumb, St. Vincent, Men I Trust, The Strokes, probably more! I might even discover some more music I like outside of popular stuff like Radiohead so ya awesome man thanks! Reminds me of when I was enjoying Vadrum's youtube channel for the first time. I don't even play drums lol. Definitely similar music tastes though like easily 90% of these bands/songs I like.", "Omg,. Thanks so much for checking the stuff out, I put a lot of love into these vids, I really enjoy documenting my practice time and having fun playing", "Killer video! For me its Set the ray to Jerry. For me the king of about 60 \"greatest songs ever\" by that band. But I can't say why I think its better. Esp when if you ask me while I'm listening to this album, pisces or meloncollie I might have a different answer. This band is goat. Ok now im going to listen to Frail and Bedazzled. Um and then. To Forgive. Or Glynis. Soma. Whir. 1979. Beleive. Shit. My list of bests is screwed.", "🤣🤣🤣 it's all love tho, at the very least you have a strong connection to it", "Hummer doesn't get nearly enough love from this album.", "Like that solo and how Jimmy plays along to it, just magical", "Def one of their bests, thanks for posting this...got me going back", "No prob, thanks for watching, this was a fun one", "I know the exact part you're talking about - there's something about it, it's like Jimmy's limbs were compelled to play through that piece of the song, like it was meant to be.", "The synergy is so palpable, it literally feels like a lucid dream", "Yeah, Corgan was always a great songwriter, but Jimmy’s drumming really brought a lot of his work to life in ways a drum machine never could.", "Facts!!!", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N66Ki1iMMjY", "I do man. Been obsessed with that band since 93 lol . So dope to see you doing your thing man! Your good and its so great to see some true passion and energy put into its truest form aka musical expression! If this was just a random human in person interaction right now I would say to you what I want to say to you regardless of anything haha: wanna JAM sometime!!! ;)", "Probably a lot of my thought about none of their music ever being as good is less about the music and more about the moment in time and my unrealized expectations when I got each subsequent album." ]	40	videos	Probably the best Smashing Pumpkins song
https://youtu.be/7iFXyLah2oQ	/r/videos/comments/rf4o5m/this_video_breeds_nightmares_username_666_on/	[ "This got me on edge...", "I still remember exactly what I was doing when someone convinced me to watch it. That was over 10 years ago. Fuckin scared the shit outta me", "Meh", "Same. 2 am, first laptop I ever had, suppose to be asleep and scared the shit out of me. I dont know if this was all laptops of the era but when you closed it, it didnt immediately turn off so the video kept playing and I remember running to my older brother's room for help." ]	5	videos	This video breeds nightmares. Username 666 on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUxbwYcbses	/r/videos/comments/rf4v5h/our_town_is_gone_kentucky_residents_experience/	[ "Oh man. This just fucking sucks.", "Yep, pretty brutal.", "This is what I was thinking as well. It's just going to keep getting worse and people still don't believe it's a real thing.", "22 tornadoes across 6 states at night in DECEMBER, yeah “cLiMaTe ChAnGe iS A hOaX” JFC\n\nEdit: I reread my comment and it sounded like it was pointed at you, it was not and I love you.", "> 22 tornadoes across 6 states\n\nThe NOAA is now saying the number is 61 across 9 states.", "And in a country where all the wealth you have is speculated into the walls of your house, what exactly are people thinking? They are driven to delusion. They worked 40+ years, so hard it fucked their marriages up, it drove people to drink, it compelled them to hide their income and vote for the party of \"down to earth, low tax small government\" liars who did nothing but fuck their own constitutes up with hatred and propaganda to ENSURE climate change remained. \nIf anyone thinks I sound angry now, wait 5 to 10 years and others will be burning oil execs out of their homes and hunting their children down. Anyone who remotely looked like they were connected to this crime will pay for the ignorance of people who exist now. So before then, think of how they should be treated before we lose sight of the true criminals.", "Wayne Flint, \"I don't understand why in the United States we don't have a great big building somewhere for these people to live. We've got kids running around here with nowhere to go. If I had a great big building, I'd put 'em all in there and feed 'em and cloth 'em and take care of 'em.\"\n\nBecause you guys call that socialism and vote for politicians that oppose such aid. Rand Paul voted against federal relief for every natural disaster of the past 10 years, and votes against climate change reform.", "People here really don't know what they're talking about when they talk about socialism. It's due in part to how it was always tied to communism and we had a whole era of media dedicated to scaring us when it came to those things. I don't blame them for not knowing but I do blame them for not wanting to learn and grow. I can't stand it.", "One passed less than a half mile from my house, based on the damage. Exploded trailer, crossed the road, exploded trees and a path of destruction like that to (at least) the next road over a well over a mile away. The debris from a destroyed barn crossed the second road and hid and further destruction. This happened all over the county (in TN, Mayfield is in KY, about 40 miles or so, NNW of here. Different tornadoes).\n\nSo, I think I can confirm there were a lot more than initially reported.", "Ahh Kentucky, just let those rugged individuals take care of themselves. They don't need a federal government!", "I didn't know KY was so flat. I'm sure that didn't help", "Eastern Kentucky is mountainous, the rest is pretty flat.", "It's really not", "seems like it is there.", "I take it this tornado was not in the east", "Landscapes fluctuate. Most cities are built in flatter areas. Also the tornado tearing up trees adds to the flatness, KY is filled with trees.", "I feel this same anger, but also realize that I can't do anything about climate change on a personal level. Society is driven by ego, and there's nothing I can do to change that. It sucks but it's something I had to accept.", "Bootstrap mother fuckers, use em.", "is this r/leopardsatemyface material?", "No winning here. Kentucky should receive aid because that's the right thing to do. And then Rand gets to feel like he's being successful. In fact him and his voters probably LOVE the idea of Kentucky receiving aid while also trying to stop other states from receiving the same emergency aid. The aid should come at the cost of changing the state slogan to \"Kentucky! We accept help but refuse to give it!\"", "> In fact him and his voters probably LOVE the idea of Kentucky receiving aid while also trying to stop other states from receiving the same emergency aid. \n\nNot only that, after being called out on their hypocrisy, they released a press statement talking about how predictably pathetic Democrats are for talking politics amidst a tragedy, which is of course... them talking politics amidst a tragedy, double hypocrisy.", "Meh not something you need to find acceptable.", "I accept it as fact, because that's what it is. I can't spend my life being angry about things I can't change." ]	24	videos	'Our Town Is Gone': Kentucky Residents Experience Huge Loss After Tornado Kills Dozens, Wreaks Havoc
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rf5z87/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rf5z87/deleted_by_user/	[ "😎 very cool", "Definitely 16mm. Cool footage - crazy to see the Don Rickles sign", "Mac Davis, Don Rickles? Helluva time!", "3.95 for a Prime Rib Special? Shit. Sign me up.", "Mean, the strip before it was the cool spot. It's crazy seeing downtown as mostly the same while I'm not sure there is anything from 1975 left on the strip.", "Circus Circus possibly.", "Feel like I'm watching an establishing shot for an old movie.", "Here's the the strip and a few miles north of it look like now. So many changes. https://youtu.be/BqYAj64yFlc", "Flamingo is still there.", "Awesome!", "Amazing.", "👍🏻", "It’s crazy to think that this was exciting to people once. Growing up without neon lights, seeing this the first time must’ve blown minds.", "Amazing; look at all the unique places; really makes you see how everything really is so commercialized these days.", "Oh wow; very saddening!", "\"Prime\"", "Huh? He showed the actual Strip for like 15 seconds.\n\nBetter video:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/5g38GNcerTw", "The video I posted gives a better view of Las vegas.", "I'm sure the people interested on how the Las Vegas Strip looks in 2021 will love to see a video of a random street that's several miles north of it.", "I just wanted to show people how great Las Vegas is.", "I belive that Dennys is still there", "I was there in 1975... Saw Wayne Newton at the Frontier, Stayed at Circus circus and saw Joan Rivers and Helen Ready at a dinner show at the old MGM. Also took in a Lido show at the Stardust. Went home with the same amount of money as I had before I began the trip. They used real silver dollars then and I had a huge cup full of them at one time. Never went back there.", "Post it to r/thewaywewere", "Sambo’s……", "I hope you realize this is what the outskirts of any major city in the US looks like.", "And play this in another tab: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=unXguuhFQ94", "That fucking Denny's 🤣\n\nSo many drunken memories of going to that Denny's just to find there's a huge wait and settling for the Panda Express or del taco on that 2nd floor food court thing", "We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half-full of cocaine and a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...", "Well not always outskirts. \n\nIt's usually quite a bit worse in warm cities though as homeless in cold cities are more dependent on shelters.", "\"special\"", "I swear the carpet in circus circus is has a vintage dating back to the 80s.", "We can't stop here, this is bat country!", "Everything in this video is clearly commercialized. I mean, it's Las Vegas fer chrissake. Neon lights, gambling, buffett & prime rib specials, souvenirs, etc. \n\nMaybe you mean \"corporatized\"?", "People today couldn't survive a Don Rickles show. Exploded heads all around.", "Hollywood loves 70's Vegas. I'm sure they use this video to create authentic recreations.", "\"Shit.\"", "One of my favorite parts of Rain Man is the arrival in Vegas. It’s a nice little documentation of the strip whereas a lot of those establishments are now gone.", "The Desert Inn has heart", "Caesars has a little bit of its old street facade remaining but not much. The only two that come to mind are Flamingo and Circus Circus, like others have mentioned.", "From about 0:56 until about 1:10, there's an ARCO gas station sign visible on the left (just past Ceasar's Palace). \nWhat strikes me is that ARCO signs look exactly the same, almost 50 years later. Just add an AM/PM logo above it.", "I want to go to Dirty Sally's Discotheque. I want to boogie all night from 10 PM til 8 AM - and also backgammon.", "For reference, this is heading North on the strip. \n\nAt the beginning to orient yourself, Aladdin's is now Planet Hollywood and the unlit spade shape sign across the street was The Dunes which later became the Bellagio. \n\nObviously Caesars and the Flamingo as still there.", "If you go to that land sonny\n\nYou will have a lot of money\n\nIf you bring the money with you when you come", "Petrol seems to be one of those few big business sectors who don't bother to freshen their image very often. AM/PM makes real good cookies.", "MMMmmmm...racist pancakes." ]	47	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/twAZhy9Kjqs	/r/videos/comments/rf5zvx/michael_jordans_last_shot_as_a_chicago_bull_1998/	[ "The🐐", "His final minute was amazing. Driving layup. Steal from Malone. Shot over Russell.\n\nGood thing this was his final shot and he never came back to play for the Wizards.", "Looks like an offensive foul", "I can’t describe what it felt like to watch him on a small black and white tv in my bedroom.", "Yeah, is pushing a guy while juking allowed?", "It's not much of a push, Jordan's arm never straightens and his hand is pretty much floppy the whole time. Defender's momentum carried him away from Jordan, not the push", "You just opened a large can of worms let's just say a touch this \"small\" was definitely common place back then.", "Yeah dude easy easy. Wouldn’t want him to take anything personally.", "Nothing is a foul unless they see it.", "👍🏻", "He gives him a nice hard shove on the hip as he's turning, making him fall. In slow motion it's fairly obvious it's a foul but I can see how the refs missed it. Jordan also hides it excellently", "I remember watching this live (on tv) with my parents. I didn’t even watch that much basketball but I remember jumping up and cheering on this play. I was like a lot of people who barely kept up with basketball at the time, I cheered for Jordan.", "It's been debated a lot over the years. There was definitely some contact tho it's hard to tell exactly how much. Perhaps a missed call but fouls are fairly nuanced in basketball and this wasn't anything egregious. Refs typically try to avoid blowing the whistle in big situations like this to \"let them play\" as well.\n\nRegardless, he still had to bury the long jumper. It's a cool clip and memory that capped off a great career.", "You have any idea how many fouls Jordan was eating back in these days? They were going for blood on him. \n\nI give him a pass based on the \"Jordan rule\" back in those days", "Ppl who think this was a foul either don’t know basketball or live in Utah.", "Uhhh, no. Nice try.", "I've heard he's a massive asshole in person. I can't imagine the stress of being one of the greatest of all time at a sport... But, breaks my heart to learn that.", "Charles Barkley has a story about how Jordan stopped him from giving money to a homeless person. I thought that was pretty despicable.", "\"The greatest thing about Jordon is he has all the tricks\" if you were wondering what was said :)", "Historic. I'm glad I was alive to watch that real time", "It's a classic offensive move. So much so that unless it's a hard shove AND the defender \"sells\" it well it'll never be called an offensive foul. Jordan just did it better than anyone else. (Like most things on the court)", "you witnessed history my friend", "I remember watching this game with my dad and brother years ago. It still ranks as one of the best sports moments of my life. 😊", "And there it is. Charles Barkley is also one of the greats, and I understand he's a genuinely friendly and outgoing guy, and not a massive tool like Jordan.", "cool I only knew MJ and Michael Jordan as a kid", "Such a shame that Jordan's career was recorded on NTSC video, and locked at 480p analog. This video has had the hell tampered out of it to look as good as it does. Whoever did that did solid work.", "Not only that, people would call on him for basically anything. So, if he wasn’t called for this, it was basically nothing.", "I saw the the last dance, when i finished it, i knew this guy although the GOAT in Basketball, is probably one of the most arrogant guy you will ever meet, i understand where the arrogance comes from, i mean if people literally give you 0 private life and whatever you do makes news even if its taking a shit, i’d be arrogant as hell and avoid people, hopefully now that he is not in news all the time his arrogance should’ve diminished but who knows", "He had 0 personal space for most of his life. I couldn’t believe how close the reporters would get every time he stepped out of his hotel room.", "Yup, would make anyone arrogant knowing that nobody is going to be genuine with him and everybody just wants a piece of him for a story", "I found it : https://youtu.be/rwfTJ7QqB_k?t=61", "What an absolute legend!", "Michael Jordan’s real last shot was a free throw with a minute 45 seconds left on the clock in a game that he was getting blown out by 20 points.", "Everything you witness is history.", "It's your cake day, take my upboat.", "If the other guy flopped like a professional soccer player, maybe it would have been called.", "End of an era and I'm not even American or a Basketball fan.\n\nJordan transcended his sport.", "[Years ago Chamillionaire told a story about approaching Jordan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow) ~~at a charity auction~~. He'd just spent thousands on a Jordan jersey and asked for a pic with Mike and told the story on this video.", "I’ve never watched a basketball game in my life, I don’t really get the sport or know anything about it at all, but STILL, for some reason, I’m watching The Last Dance on Netflix right now 😂 \n\nNo matter how little you know about basketball, you know who Michael Jordan was. And heck, I was born in 1996 in IRELAND 😂 he was almost done by then. And Ireland has less than no interest in basketball lol. Guy is still an icon", "Fuck Isiah calling that a push", "The Last Dance really showcases this surprisingly. He had such a drive to win and be the best, which is probably what made him the GOAT. But, he could never let things go. He could never lose, everything was a competition to him and he felt that he had to win. He was allegedly a difficult guy to deal with during training too.", "There's a difference between being one of the greats and being the greatest. If you watch any documentaries on the dream team you can see what I mean. John Stockton is one of the greatest, but he could walk around like an average American tourist with his family. Jordan couldn't leave his hotel room. \n\nI think Jordan is an asshole no doubt, but I think a lot of it stems from the stress of what he went through with the attention being the greatest since he was like 15 years old. \n\nThat kind of attention can't be healthy for the mental development of a teenager. Shit look at how many child actors go off the deep end. Fame is not fun. Being rich is fun, being powerful is intoxicating, but being famous is exhausting. Or at least that's my take.", "100%. Ridiculous. It was a caress, at best.", "Well, I'd say \"arrogant\" is the wrong word. Arrogance is an overinflated and undeserved, unwarranted sense of confidence. Jordan, as much as we might be put off by his lack of humility, certainly backed up everything.", "It wasn't so much a push as much as it was a transfer of his momentum to his opponents in order to stop himself for the shot and also to force his opponent to keep moving past him. If the opponent didn't have as much momentum to begin with from trying to keep up with the cut he wouldn't have gone nearly as far as he had.", "I heavily disagree with this assertion.", "Barkley is funny hah", "It's like a robotic finish! means perfect done by Michel.", "There isn’t any stain on Jordan, not from this. One of the “Jordan rules” as described by Pistons coach Chuck Daly:\n\n> The other rule was, any time he went by you, you had to nail him. If he was coming off a screen, nail him. We didn't want to be dirty—I know some people thought we were—but we had to make contact and be very physical.\n\nThat was the kind of shit he had to put up with every time he played.", "Wait, it was the other way around? I wasn’t alive at the time, so I think I clearly understood the other way around.", "Nobody is calling a foul on what might be last play an NBA series. See last series series. They just aren't doing it.", "Wow, this is amazing", "I still adhere to my belief there was no push off. Just doesn't look like there is any force behind his hand.", "basketball is a contact sport. you can have contact without a foul. a clear advantage has to be gained to call a foul. in this case russell was not going to recover to contest the shot anyway, and there is another angle from the opposite side of the court showing that jordan's \"push\" had zero effect on russell's momentum. if we start calling basketball games in a way where this is a foul jordan would just stand at the free throw line the whole time.", "Watch the Last Dance. People have different definitions of an asshole. This guy was driven and would accept nothing less from his teammates. He wanted everyone around him to join him on his journey to greatness. Call it hat you want, asshole, douchebag, whatever. But you don't get to the level that he did by being friendly, polite all the time. Especially in a competitive sport.", "Sad day in history when your a jazz fan", "It was an unintentional smack on the booty as he was reaching for the crossover.", "I fell for that trope at the time. Stockton is one of my favorite players ever and to see this title shot slip away was too much for me at that age. It’s clear he didn’t push off, or at least in a way that altered Russell’s movement. I’m speechless every single time I watch this clip. Ice cold", "I think if you are LITERALLY the GOAT (and he is), you can get a pass on being arrogant. May not be the best look, but you deserve it.", "I think it's understandable. The Last Dance is as much of a character story as it is a basketball story. You want to know what makes someone who is the greatest of a sport, tick.", "Right? I also don't think the NBA is the same. I think we can all agree that the 92 Dream Team and that era was the pinnacle of the NBA.", "Exactly. It’s a really interesting documentary even for someone who doesn’t watch that sport. I guess that should be obvious tho haha, I don’t need to be a weirdo methhead to watch Tiger King 👀😂", "Karl Malone is a pedophile though. \n\n> While Malone was a 20-year-old student and basketball star at Louisiana Tech University, he impregnated 13-year-old Gloria Bell. She gave birth to a son, Demetress Bell, a future NFL Lineman.", "Any chance he wasn't a \"Bull\" in that game?", "See that left hand? That's a bad man.", "Grew up in Utah. Jazz fan. Not a foul.", "\"Referee can't see that.\" \n\nThe announcer agrees with you.", "I luved watching the bulls play. Those were the days..", "If he's said \"nah, fuck off\" that would have been bad enough but what Mike said was much worse. If you're tired of being asked to take pictures with people, that's fine. Just say \"I'm sorry but no. If I take a picture with you there'd be a line of people trying to take one too.\" \n\nI'll never understand the notion that celebrities don't owe their fans common decency. Like that's a baseline expectation for any human being. If you want to treat people like shit, go for it. But don't be surprised when you have a reputation for treating people like shit.", "What?!", "Yeah, I know… that Reddit cringe", "Both statements are correct.", "Yes, true! But sadly I didn't get to witness the awesome history he did" ]	73	videos	Michael Jordan's last shot as a Chicago Bull 1998
https://youtu.be/iO46g7pF9AE	/r/videos/comments/rf628b/mind_numbing_drone_footage_of_tornado_damage_at/	[ "Curious, how much would you pay for insurance a month in an area like this?", "Would a brick and concrete house survive this?", "How ironic is that, that the weather during recording was looking simply lovely and perfect", "yeah more likely brick/concrete even stone structures could widthstand these weather conditions. Brick is more expensive and even with these harder heavier building matterials, still roofs cave in or fly off.", "Numbing?", "No. There are plenty of brick and concrete structures in the midwest. I can tell you firsthand that at the EF4/EF5+ wind speeds, there's nothing that can withstand this. These wind speeds are stronger and more concentrated than hurricanes.", "it sounds a bit weird what you say, because whats left standing in this video is literally all brick structures.", "Think you're not recognizing what you're looking at. For the most part, all that is left in that video are concrete slabs where there used to be brick/stone structures. The components that are left have more to do with elevation or luck than what they're made out of. If there was earth/structure to act as a windblock then you'll find walls or bits of structure left.\n\nAny structure that takes a direct hit from an EF4+/5 tornado is likely to be leveled down to the foundation or lower. They've been known to remove as much as the top 3 feet of soil.", "Found the casual autist.", "Incredibly scary to see a tornado do such destruction in a hilly area / pass over bodies of water.", "Home insurance? Not much. I'm in a similar area and mine is less than $100 a month.", "It's all according. The winds were clocked at over 300 mph. Not much is going to survive that. Hit straight on, nothing is going to survive that. When hit straight on, air pressure build up inside the building and it basically explodes. There used to be an old wives tale to open your windows so pressure won't build, but it doesn't matter.", "It's not. You find dead bodies and dead pets in such cleanup. You see the remnants of lives devastated. It's no fun finding personal items, including photos that you know are important to people. It's depressing as fuck. You see the looks on people's faces, trying to remain positive, but don't know what their next move is. Last time I volunteered, I cried the whole time.\n\nSo, you're getting downvoted because you could not be more wrong. There is nothing \"cool\" about it. Stick with your fucking legos.", "yeah I watched this video and now my mind is literally numb. I am currently not able to feel my Mind and I'm fucking scared and its all because of this video's mind numbing drone footage.\n\nCan you feel your mind?" ]	14	videos	Mind numbing drone footage of tornado damage at Buena Vista, Kentucky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfh-h95zzhI	/r/videos/comments/rf68sp/im_about_to_turn_33_and_ive_decided_that_the_best/	[ "Pick it up", "Yeeea bro, mean.", "Don't let the bastards grind you down", "This has a lot of Little Big energy", "I think you might be the answer to \"What if Daniel Tosh and Jon Lajoie had a baby?\"\n\nAnd I mean that in a good way! Fun song!", "\"ska\"", "Yeah man that’s pretty good", "I don't think we have a mutual understanding of \"ska\"", "This is more closely related to electro swing or balkan/gypsy electronic music than the traditional definition of \"ska\".\n\nI see where they're coming from, and I don't necessarily disagree, it's just not what I'd call it or what I believe people would expect if you said here's some ska to listen to.", "Some Killer Audio??", "The little thrust monkey in the shades is a nice touch. Good luck with your career!", "This is the punkiest ska of 2021. Nobody got the balls to push that upbeat rhythm like Paul. 10/10 pick it up", "Did you know ska came before reggae", "That's definitely not Ska", "How does Jamie Kennedy still do it? Still be able to prank us, and look so young?", "Good luck..", "i think i can see through her shirt but im not sure", "Ska inspired :) I dunno what genre it would come under..", "Call it \"Skrap\" and say it's a new genre", "No way really, what you gonna say next? that ska came before rocksteady which came before reggae, which came before dub, which came before dancehall, which came before regatón?", "👍🏻", "\"seventh wave\" Ska.", "Bruce goose", "If the Russians picked up Ska?\n\nBtw what's with the big uptrend in Ska right now?", "Wanted to hate it, thought it was fucking rad.", "Did you know reggae was inspired by ska? Also do you by chance know Darren Barret?", "Well.\n\nIt's not my thing musically, despite my best efforts to branch out I seem to be a unrepentant metalhead (not intolerant of other genres just mostly uninterested), but it did give me a chuckle and was entertaining enough that I let it play until the end. \n\nSo you do you, fuck the haters, if that makes you happy then go hard. \n\nI kinda thought ska was something else though", "motherfkers get you down", "Nope", "Skat (You were SO close 😂)", "Go for it!", "Showed up because I thought there would be ska- Stayed for the titties.", "I've got those at home, I just scoff at the fake internet hoots." ]	33	videos	I'm about to turn 33 and I've decided that the best thing to do with my life is to go all in on SKA music. Probably not the most calculated decision but as Shia LaBeouf says "Don't let your dreams be dreams!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3_abOGy2hQ	/r/videos/comments/rf7fix/my_neighborhood_is_a_destination_for_checking_out/	[ "I am gonna take a shot in the dark here. Is this Brea, CA?", "I was visiting LA (Torrance) a week ago and think i might drove pass your house! If this is Torrance", "Very beautiful. The holiday is coming soon." ]	3	videos	My neighborhood is a destination for checking out Christmas lights. I'm pretty happy with how our tees turned out this year.
https://youtu.be/GotI0DCyd1o	/r/videos/comments/rf8224/michigan_state_universitys_fall_2021_midnight/	[ "Not to be that guy but this seems like a good way to scare people. Especially with ptsd or just elderly. Idk.", "It has scared people! Including me! It happens from Friday - Monday on the weekend on finals, so by the Sunday night scream people are used to it.", "\"Not to be that guy\"\n\nProceeds to be that guy.\n\n;)", "don't do anything fun or unique anywhere ever because it might bother someone somewhere maybe" ]	4	videos	Michigan State University's Fall 2021 Midnight Scream
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ru9n70Ps324&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/rf8w2z/desert_storm_begins_abc_footage_from_baghdad_1991/	[ "Shock and awe.", "I was working the late shift painting a condo at a resort when this happened. I remember turning on the TV which I played in the background all the time. I was about to switch to MTV (back when it actually played music) and this came on right then. I didnt get much done that night.", "I also remember this happening. The first gulf war was the source of some of the anti-americanism in my European country. The next days the we’re protests in front of the US embassy with signs „No war for cheap oil“." ]	3	videos	Desert Storm begins - ABC footage from Baghdad (1991)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF8ICU5cskY	/r/videos/comments/rf9o29/10_reasons_why_not_to_keep_ducks/	[ "Nice video! Informative and entertaining.", "[crazy wildlife lol](https://youtu.be/FF8ICU5cskY?t=192)", "Love this guys videos, started watching them during first lockdown to learn some tips for gardening, none of which was much help in hindsight as I don't have the same climate but enjoyed them nonetheless", "I keep [ducks](https://i.imgur.com/Jfu8FTE.jpg). On their behalf I would like to say: Their eggs are superior to my chicken's eggs. Higher fat content and the whites whip taller. French bakers won't do without them for good reason. Also, ducks forage differently than chickens and that helps my farm. I have predators, too and make sure I close my team in personally each night. It's part of chores. Am I a little salty that this wasn't actually a video on how ducks are great additions to farms? yep. The guy has points but none of them can't be cured by investing in better facilities. He has a great set up for other things, why cheap on the coops?", "fuck those ducks. fuckin ducks!", "Agreed I have 2 and they are the best and yes the eggs are so good.", "Love this guy, almost everything I know about backyard gardening i've learnt from him.", "What's your climate? There's heaps of videos out there.", "I'm curious to know what happened to his right forearm. Looks like a large bite radius left a nasty scar. Shark, maybe?", "Yeah I live in Kentucky. I love his channel for the permaculture tips but his time frames and winter projects don't translate here well.", "He traded 3 adult ducks and 2 ducklings for 6 adult chickens.\n\nThe Australian SAT is hard!", "Could you selectively breed them to stfu?", "^^^ this is what i was wondering about the entire time . Dud seems super cool", "I pass a duck pond on my walk every day: most days the matriarch goes berserk and emits a horrendous cacophony.\n\nYesterday one of her daughters appears to have learned the trick too, so I got it in stereo :(", "Can you give us a bit on how to keep the ducks cleaner with better investment in their homes?", "is that outback Russel Crowe?", "[It was an airborne infantry training accidetnt](https://selfsufficientme.com/serious-injury-or-illness-and-the-road-to-recovery/)\n\nNo pictures but the description of the injury will make your balls shrink. Insane story too, he hit so many complications and it took years for a full recovery.", "He has a totally different experience to me with ducks, and I think it's because he wants them to fiit into his chicken environment, which is a bad choice because they have different needs. Our ducks have a pond surrounded by grass where they spend most of their time. This means their poop is largely contained in that area and fairly hidden. If I introduced chickens, they would scratch all the grass up and I'd have a mudbowl (like his dustbowl but wetter), the poop would be more obvious and smelly, and no-one would be happy.", "No one else did. With chickens I can select for docile in a rooster but have to accept a reduced fertility rate. I also don’t keep drakes in the flock any more. It’s all hens and they seem okay with that. Happy ducks quack.", "I am outraged and offended. You never hear ducks complain about the tripe humans do.", "Do ducks need to dip their food in water to eat? I don’t see a fix to them dirtying every source of water. I can see how that is very bothersome.", "So this is what he does when he's not playing Tarkov.", "Jesus H. Christ. Given the circumstances and the incredible effort he put in, he looks like he's made a fantastic recovery - wouldn't have been able to guess at the extent of injury by looks alone.", "It's honestly pretty remarkable that he kept the whole arm. Those ER surgeons are legend.", "Ducks will eliminate by their water source and in their bedding. I make both locations easy to scoop/rake up and then take their manure to the compost pile. It's weekly but a fast job as I have compacted the soil around their water and kiddie pool. Just scrape up whatever isn't compacted. I use a rake to roll up the straw and then take it for composting. Their spent waste water charges compost piles or goes out to flower beds. In the summer it takes 20-40 gallons of fresh water daily into either their tub or pool. I can pump it from a surface well and pump it out into a tank for distribution to flower beds. I have a flower farm. Put their tub/pool water on a concrete slab and you can scrape up/hose down their manure daily if it bugs you. Looking at their waste as a positive is where I differ from the video. It's gold in the compost pile.", "i love this channel been following for a year now i think", "Chickens are actually really fun to keep. They each have personalities and can be quite cute in their behavior. Some like to be held too.", "I mean, Russel Crowe is from NZ & AUS (born in one, grew up in the other). This guy could definitely pass as Crowe's dad/brother/cousin, though", "Tried my hands at ducks when I had chickens. Ducks are assholes. There is really just no other way to describe their behavior, just mean as shit for no reason.\n\nLike all birds they also shit everywhere and all the time. They will shit while you hold them for those cute insta selfies too. Even better is when you get them a nice big pool of fresh water and the first thing they do is shit in it, then they take a big drink.", "Me too!", "This guy ducks", "Reason #11 why he doesn't keep ducks anymore.", "Yeah, I would say a lot of his issue is due to the environment he's keeping them in though - just not ideal.\n\nDucks are easier if you have a large pond and live somewhere where they can be left to be more like ducks and less like chickens. Ducks shouldn't really live like chickens, you can do it of course but the work is huge with their water needs and habits and having to protect them from so many predators is going to be hard work.", "Speaking of duck shit you forgot to mention that you can slip on it. It is so greasy that you can go down just like a Looney Tunes character stepping on a banana peel.", "I Just got 8 of them. they are still small and cute....I have no regrets.\n\n\nyet.", "Interesting. Perhaps ducks are more wetland creatures, and chickens are more dryland creatures? Maybe the disconnect would be similar to trying to keep land tortoises and lake turtles in the same habitat?" ]	35	videos	10 Reasons Why NOT to Keep Ducks?
https://youtu.be/-2xVSLgSoYc	/r/videos/comments/rfabzq/reporter_tours_whats_left_of_dawson_springs_ky/	[ "Not trying to downplay the severity of the situation but the phrase \"built so well\" is a bit of a stretch.", "\"Search and rescue teams are going door to door...\"\n\nMore like pile of wreckage to pile of wreckage.", "My parents, who live in Clarksville, IN, found a picture in their yard that was almost certainly picked up by the storm and dropped there.", "I am in construction (architect) and I don’t understand why there aren’t concrete shelters built into houses as standard requirements where there is tornadoes and earthquakes. We do it where there’s a flooding risk in the U.K, we make sure the flood area is concrete and let’s the water through.", "Because we want twice the house for half the money." ]	5	videos	Reporter tours what's left of Dawson Springs, KY after devastating tornado
https://youtu.be/mpp6-a3ckaM	/r/videos/comments/rfac72/cat_in_a_heated_blanket/	[ "\"I will never move again!\"", "Deliver on to me can flavored fish, and be gone 'till the morrow.", "🤣🤣🤣 exactly", "Honestly me yesterday", "Me every day. I hate my job. People die and I'm to move on.", "Omg, sorry to hear, do you work in a hospital?", "Yes. And elsewhere", "Living his best life", "Fuck off...dont touch...leave magic blanket alone.\n\n-Cat probably", "*unto", "I bought a heated outdoor house for a neighborhood cat that comes around. He sleeps in it all the time. I totally get it.", "Shit be comfy as fuck" ]	12	videos	Cat in a heated blanket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttonLWPiUZ8	/r/videos/comments/rfacd0/the_whole_of_germany_from_above/	[ "No Hamburg?", "Hamburg was in the beginning :)", "How did I miss the Alster?! Thanks and great vid", "Thank you!! :)" ]	4	videos	The whole of Germany from above
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lNWsC8rrMcg	/r/videos/comments/rfadfx/simpsons_marge_gets_a_new_doorbell/	[ "This is peak Boomer humor.", "I don't get it. Is it meant to be funny?", "Season 10 is definitely the tail end of the Simpsons glory days but the sheer volume of jokes in 5 minutes even then was still impressive.", "Yep, this humor is BEYOND you", "🎵 This is the FUUUTUUUURE! All the doorbells in the future apparently SIIING! 🎶", "I don't even need to watch the video to know his name: Senior Ding Dong! God bless the simspons!!!!", "It is BEYOND me. Doorbell get stuck FUNNY", "I know! It's great, isn't it?", "I agree with you but i re-watched the Simpsons recenlty up until seaon 16 and brother let me tel you there are A LOT of hidden gems in there!", "I agree with you", "How old do you think boomers are?", "70 something by now. They're the ones writing this show.", "I mean this episode aired in 1999. Do you think it's possible that the humor of the joke has just aged and it's not for you? \n\nAs opposed to everyone who found it funny was just a 70 year old?", "Now you've said that I think it might actually be beyond you", "humor is subjective. what you might not find funny others can enjoy without your input or opinion.", "Is this an actual song I can find on Youtube?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFx-5PGLgb4", "Boomers were the peak audience of Simpsons in 1999 so it makes sense. It really is peak Boomer humor I'm not being flippant.\n\nIt's like a checklist:\n\n- husband hate wife joke\n\n- boring housewife with weird interests\n\n- novelty store\n\n- hate job joke\n\n- lamenting nobody visits anymore \n\n- ethnic stereotyoes\n\n- mob justice\n\n- electronics are unknowable", "\"Groan Your father traded our tools for M&Ms again...\" XD", "Its not nearly as bad as people make it seem. \"Everything after season 8 is trash\". It actually doesnt get too bad until around season 12", "It's almost like the target audience in 1999 was people watching TV in 1999", "Yeah I usually peg it at season 14, I know purists will say 4-10 but there's lots of good episodes up until then.", "Gen X was The Simpson's target audience in the late 90's. They're in their 50's now (would have been 20s-30s in the late 90's).", "> Boomers were the peak audience of Simpsons in 1999\n\nthis is just objectively false lmao", "I KNOW!", "Look man I am a purist too. and if they say 4-10 they are missing out on several hits from 1 2 3 especially one of my favorites Marge & Itchy & Scratchy! This episode has by far better humor and wit than most south park or family guy seasons!", "I love how Marge couldn't even sing the right tune, but Lisa knows exactly what she is talking about.", "I want sure it was humour, I was asking if it was. I wasn't sure if it was referencing something else", "🎶 This is the door bell! It is the future!! YA!", "Interestingly, this is also the song that plays in Homer’s head the first time he lays eyes upon Marge in high school.", "You can kind of see the \"style\" that everyone loves from the classic age coming to an end in this clip though. It is still very funny but the jokes are starting to come off as more forced rather than easily flowing. It feels less effortless and more jarring than an episode from season 5 or 6, for example", "It's in their wedding video in the movie too", "What's your favorite comedy show?", "Stinking Chevy!", "Also\n\nhttps://youtu.be/G_IkJnTus6Q", "The hoagie joke was pretty funny but Marge installed it on the wrong side of the door.", "I watch them all and there are laughs to be had in all seasons.", "Season 10 is abysmal.\n\nNot a laugh in it.", "Simpson’s did it", "Love me some Simspons", "I wonder if there is any link between this and the Carlton character on Fresh Prince.", "I'm pretty sure Carleton was written based off that character.\n\nHere's another part.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/9jTM4ZOa69U" ]	44	videos	Simpsons - Marge gets a new doorbell
https://youtu.be/h7MDfQW8xo4	/r/videos/comments/rfah2o/weatherman_owain_plays_epic_bbc_news_theme_for/	[ "If you want a banger news theme, then look no further than Pendulum's cover of the Australian Broadcasting Commission's news theme https://youtu.be/N7AJ3HOnkUs", "u/savevideo", "The Smith's Mike Joyce over Owain's left shoulder (right as you look at him of course)", "Legacy news + social media = entertainment > news", "This is for Children In Need. It's a charity event in the UK. \n\nThey've been doing this stuff for long before social media, although I agree with the sentiment of your comment. It just doesn't really apply here.", "Nice catch", "The BBC News theme will never not be top tier for news theme music. To quote Bill Bailey, it's basically apocalyptic rave music." ]	7	videos	Weatherman Owain Plays EPIC BBC News Theme for Children in Need Drumathon with his fellow Drummers
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfaz9i/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rfaz9i/deleted_by_user/	[ "The one and only GOAT", "Yes indeed", "I can remember it as if it was yesterday, OMG I'm old", "Could only win when boston and detroit got old." ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BQlN5W4DSo&ab_channel=ChinaObserver	/r/videos/comments/rfcliz/a_subculture_of_concerted_slacking_off_in_china/	[ "Sub-cultures of slack unite!\n\nhttps://i.pinimg.com/474x/5e/ff/1c/5eff1ced0881fb54c800e7f264bc4e42--bob-genetics.jpg", "I mean it really doesn't seem all that different than what we have in America except the slightly less aggressive working hours here.", "/r/antiwork", "Also known as \"lying flat\"", "Given that 996, i.e. working from 12am to 12pm, 6 days a week (i.e. 72h per week) is a thing in China, no surprise that some employees might be a little under pressure.\n\nEdit:\n\nIt seems that this was declared illegal on 27 August 2021. Ages ago. Definitely enough time for a country worth of utterly overworked employees to get over it and recover completely. There is no war in ba sing se", "I'm like a professional fisher.", "These feels like a very wordy way to just say, people who don't have a direct interest in the success of the company (stock, profit sharing, bonus/commission, etc) will only work as hard as they need to not get fired. Its not a new phenomenon.", "996 has been illegal in China for ages. All the Jack Ma stuff happened because he was fighting so hard to be able to keep doing it. \n\nThey have a 44 hour maximum working week now.", "You’re both correct but one more than the other", "In most countries where unpaid overtime is illegal, it still happens quite regularly.", "Smells like yeti in here…", "> All the Jack Ma stuff happened because he was fighting so hard to be able to keep doing it. \n\nSource? AFAIK it's due to him criticizing the CCP for financial regulations\n\n>The Financial Times reported that the disappearance may have been connected to a speech given at the annual People's Bank of China financial markets forum,[37] in which Ma criticized China's regulators and banks.[37]", "That speech happened late in the timeline. Jack Ma always hated regulations and spoke up many times throughout his career about it. The stuff he was saying about 996 just tipped things too far for him. \n\n996 was always illegal, but employees had the right to opt out and work those hours if they wished. Tech companies took advantage of this and essentially forced their staff to do it if they wanted to work for them. This started causing big controversy in China and Jack Ma became the outspoken face of 996, he said that it was a \"blessing\" for employees to have the opportunity to work those hours. The public anger, along with a few high-profile overworked employee suicides, led to China's labour ministry and top court stepping in and starting to heavily crack down on this. \n\nThis is what then caused Jack Ma to make a bunch of speeches about how China's economy won't survive increased regulations and that they'll lose their top spot in the world, this drew big media attention across the world. Globally, particularly with the American media, he was pretty popular. Within China he wasn't. He was now facing pressure from the government, the public and shareholders within his companies. He stepped down from the board of Alibaba and went quiet. Maybe he was just lying low for a while like other disgraced billionaires, or maybe he was told to shut up. We'll probably never know for sure.", ">That speech happened late in the timeline. \n\nSo what, regulators were just fuming about his 996 for months, and only decided to arrest/disappear him a few months afterwards? If anything that seems like that's evidence against it. It's not like the CCP is known for getting judicial and bureaucratic approval to move in on one of china's richest person.\n\n> The stuff he was saying about 996 just tipped things too far for him.\n\nThat's just like, your opinion man.\n\nNo seriously, you could make the argument that anything he did in the months leading up to that event was the thing that \"tipped things too far for him\". In the articles I've read, I have not seen 996 come up as a major reason for the arrest. What evidence is there to support 996 was indeed the tipping point?\n\nhttps://www.ft.com/content/1fe0559f-de6d-490e-b312-abba0181da1f\n\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/ant-group-ipo-suspension-regulators/how-billionaire-jack-ma-fell-to-earth-and-took-ants-mega-ipo-with-him-idUSKBN27L2GX\n\n>The public anger, along with a few high-profile overworked employee suicides, led to China's labour ministry and top court stepping in and starting to heavily crack down on this. \n\nBased on the timeline it seems like the whole thing was pretty low on the official's radar. According to previous commenters, the practice was declared illegal 27 August 2021, but as early as april 19, 2019 there were articles saying he \"endorsed it again\". From that, officials took at least 2 years to make their move. That's not really consistent with \"All the Jack Ma stuff happened because he was fighting so hard to be able to keep doing it\" or even \"The stuff he was saying about 996 just tipped things too far for him\".", "I love this expression. It totally captures the malaise of working under a disorganized management structure which demands more than it knows what to do with. It definitely doesn't feel like time theft when you are given vague direction and dispassionate orders to just work. I've definitely had days for fishing, despite feeling honor-bound to work hard.", "r/antiwork", "I’ve heard about Google Sheets / Excel games or enjoyable software that can be used. \n\nDoes anyone recall any more details?", "You have to wonder what percentage of comments on Reddit are written by people who are on the clock at work. I certainly don’t waste my free time here lol", "Hey, you caught me! I'm \"working\" right now.", "I'd say about 50%, the rest are kids or NEETs / r/antiwork snobs", "^A ^sub-culture ^of ^concerted ^slacking ^off *in China*" ]	21	videos	A sub-culture of concerted slacking off in China
https://youtu.be/5A3THighARU	/r/videos/comments/rfcuux/the_snowman_1982_hd/	[ "\"Mister, I'm scared!\"\n\n\"What are you worried about? I'm the one who has to walk out of here alone!\"", "All-time classic.", "they used to play this at the doctor's office I went to as a kid. Like clockwork every winter I'd get a cold, my mom would load me up with meds, and we would go to the doctor's office where I'd zone out watching this, basically high on the meds and in a dream state. \n\nAlso, if you ever watch the Christmas Shawn the Sheep special on Netflix, there's a split second nod to this movie where the dog and a snowman are flying through the air. My son caught it because I watched The Snowman with him a bunch of times already.", "I've been playing this the last few weeks for my daughter - it puts her right to sleep at naptime nearly without fail", "Worth it for the music alone", "I agree", "That's awesome", "You just need the David Bowie intro to make this perfect… https://youtu.be/54MEWWIiIk8", "...we're walking in the air...", "One of the only times I saw my dad get teary was when I was younger and he said \"when you get older, this will be something we both remember watching\". He was right. We had a VHS of this and used to watch it many times, again and again. I love the music and the haunting nature of the whole thing. It's also not overly cutesy like modern animation, and it contains characters that are emotional and very real. The child at the end understands the transient nature of his friend and there is no tacked on \"happy ending\". Thanks for posting.", "I prefer this version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vcUkWqMzz4", "Just don't let that bastard nick your Irn Bru", "Too sad to watch", "*Shaun the Sheep", "i prefer Tha Snowman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdraiL22elQ", "I laughed out loud at this scene in StS. 😂", "I love The Snowman, but you want to know what I fucking hate about it? The one thing that drives me up the fucking wall?\n\nThis is in widescreen. The original was made in 4:3, so they cut off a good amount of the top and bottom. And all the releases I have - both the DVD and the paid-for YouTube release - are in widescreen.", "kinda dumb this can't be saved on youtube because its for kids?" ]	18	videos	The Snowman 1982 HD
https://youtu.be/WcoVcQRF-DQ?t=27	/r/videos/comments/rfdixb/meet_gran_a_lovely_lady_who_deals_with_some_of/	[ "Mr G is probably my favourite, too many to choose from.", "I like the twin deros", "It took me slightly longer than I'm comfortable admitting to realize that this was a sketch.", "There's my letter of resignation and there's some flowers for my dead dog, why don't you stick those up your fat arse. Fuck off everyone! I'm gone.", "Fuck u sir!", "My exact experience. I sat there like \"waaaaaait a minute\"", "I work with kids in similar situations and outside of the racism, dialling down a bit, its pretty much the way you have to engage.", "Then the first closeup came and I had to play with \"is that a man dressed as an Australian grandmother, or am I flirting with racial profiling of Australian women?\"", "He would have been amazing in a Christopher Guest film.", "He’s copped a lot of shit lately from do gooder clowns over the Samoan sketches", "[Sneaky Nuts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cJYMgAdvpI)", "i didn't get any of the jokes but i laughed my ass off. he acted just like our Gym Teacher in high school.", "I said puck you sir", "I got all the way to “did your mums heroin habit affect your coordination” fuck me this is legendary comedy. Anytime a comedian can hit racism and shit like this so head on is awesome. Whatta guy." ]	15	videos	Meet Gran. A lovely lady who deals with some of the worst juvenile offenders in Australia.
https://youtu.be/v--znY7yk84	/r/videos/comments/rfg4tv/rappers_delight_brian_williams_feat_lester_holt/	[ "That had to take so long to edit", "So this... this made my day. Thank you.", "You are awesome!", "Definitely took a good amount of time, but probably not as long as you would think. If this was done on an NBC late night show (e.g. the Tonight Show w/ Jimmy Fallon), they likely have access to all footage and transcripts w/ timestamps. A wordsearch for specific terms or letter combinations would make it relatively easy to identify the moments where they say the words or the sounds that line up with the lyrics. I bet this took one person less than a week to make.", "I just want to know the context that Brian Williams needed to say \"Boogie\" on the air?", "thanks for picking up my Monday!", "[This was his farewell-- wise man](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn_alAgOCo&feature=youtu.be)", "These things are so impressive", "a decent bit of pre-built automation can probably get you a list of clips and then start MAKING those clips in seconds, maybe even put it all together into one video in a few minutes. Still need a little editing after that but I have a feeling once you get something in place to do this it becomes pretty easy.", "He wanted to try to move your feet!", "Yup, I had considered mentioning the ability to write a code that builds it automatically, but I wouldn't credit NBC with doing something that sophisticated for a joke.", "This was 100% from Jimmy Fallon. They've done a few other songs in this same style as well.", "Play this at my funeral.", "[Full playlist of 10 songs by Brian Willaims](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGLhYFrv6w&list=PLKUgHT2ngzfnOU-9Z0KeY_tYLjxdvscl4&ab_channel=DaMainSource)", "Farewell to the last charismatic non-emoting newsreader.", "Is there a software that helps find the words from the 1000s of hours of footage or are you just watching 1000s of hours of footage and checking off time stamps where they say the needed phrase?", "And pitch adjustment is pretty easy these days anyway.", "In what news would you ever use the word \"boogie\"?", "I wish there was a version of this without the audience noise.", "I watch this at least twice a month (and there are a couple other Brian Williams raps too). They never get old.", "r/PraiseTheEditor", "A tragic accident happened today at a nightclub called \"Boogie Nights\". The roof collapsed and 15 people were killed. The groove was killed.", "I'd imagine there are transcripts that can be searched to find what they're looking for. There's no way someone is watching 1000s of hours of footage.\n\nThe clip is also from Jimmy Fallon, who is on NBC, so I'm sure the staff have access to the NBC resources, which, again, would have transcripts of all that footage.", "What kind of software is capable of this?", "This video give the Bad Lip Reading Guys and Shmoyoho a run for their money hahahha! Great Work!", "Someone spent some time on this. And I approve", "It sounds to me like he's saying \"bookie\", and the news story image shows a woman in court. He could be talking about her \"booking\", i.e., being brought into a police station for processing.", "THEY CUT OFF THE END!", "Good lord even with a clap in the track people can't clap in the right place.", "I get the feeling that Brian Williams would perform rapper's delight just on his own if you asked him.", "I used to work in TV as a web editor. They have written transcripts of every single word an anchor says on TV, with timestamps. This all searchable because they routinely need to pull up clips for promos, recaps, related stories, all that.\n\nNow the timestamps aren't perfect so automation is impossible but it'd get you close. You could pair with speech to text, but thats only worth building if your doing this lots.", "yes and no. good to change things like institutionalized sexual harassment. but then also bad for things like proud boys all over showing up to PTA meetings trying to intimidate everyone.\n\ni think you've got a lot of people on the left stepping up after years of compromises and not getting anything significate done. that's changing SOME things. some. then you have other people doing things as a reactionary force like proud boys people.\n\nthen brian williams retires and goes \"oh my god, look at both of them, wtf\".\n\nsure, i would have been more fine to not tear down institutions and just vote for change and things like that. but when decades go by and the institutions just deadlock without doing anything, i don't think it's a good institution anymore.", "A lot of conspiracy dorks have been interpreting his farewell message as evidence of some sort of impending doom. Of course their conceptualization of said doom is always in their favor, politically.", "Oh man I saw this a loooonnnnggg time ago on YouTube haha. Good shit, thanks for reminding me this exists.", "That was awesome!", "I would write an ffmpeg script but this thread suggests many other tools:\n\nhttps://superuser.com/questions/358082/command-line-video-editing-in-linux-cut-join-and-preview", "But what about \"gotta\" which they spliced from that \"gata\" in \"Yamagata\"? There are a couple of these which are sound based.", "I'm sure that could've been brainstormed if they couldn't find the exact word. It's possible whoever was involved in making this knew that particular name had been mentioned in a news story at some point and was able to find it.", "If you want something similar that might get you canceled.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/hh-Z8_6_m4Q NSFW", ">Definitely took a good amount of time, but probably not as long as you would think.\n\nAssuming you have access to the database (NBC/Peacock/whatever) with SRT or ASS or whatever container subtitles are stored in, just grep that shit.\n\nWith mixing stuff like this, the hardest part is finding the content, but if you've got it all subtitled on the server...? Easy-cakes. Grep that shit. lol", "I use to work for a newsclipping transcription company. They’d provide you with searchable transcripts and video clips. I’m betting they had this service, did a word search, and ordered every clip that matched.", "Not a coder or a video editor, so I can't really give a lot of definitive answers. But there's all sorts of text parsers out there that could read through hundreds of scripts in no time flat to find specific words or phrases, complete with timestamp on the corresponding video. Feed that timestamp into a video editing tool, tell it to grab x seconds before and after, save and pop out as a separately numbered clip. repeat until all are done. Concatenate (combine) all the clips into one video, then go in and manually tweak a few timings.", "Make no mistake, this video is only being posted to take search results away from Williams' sign-off address.", "Excellent thought! That’s likely it.", "The two clips of him talking to Jimmy about these are HYSTERICAL. He is surprisingly funny, and fucking savage.", "chanfle", "Fucking Brilliant.", "This is not gonna distract from the words the man had to say when he resigned. Who is John Galt?", "The [Gin and Juice version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGLhYFrv6w) is arguably better", "This video lives rent free in my head.", "Dude perpetually looks concerned", "https://vimeo.com/269726233?embedded=true&source=vimeo\\_logo&owner=61967481", "This is without a doubt one of my favourite things on Youtube", "Legend", "I used to make music videos like this in college for our formal video, editing footage of people to create a song. It is a lot of work. Audio is much more time intensive than video. \n\nHowever, these guys have the transcript/script of all these newscasts so they can just control-F to find the words and look at the timestamp for them. It still is a lot of work, but it makes it a million times easier having the text to search.", "“Six in the morning,” cracks me up, every time.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDyt0M8Zecw", "Fucking brilliant! Put a smile on my face.", "It's not too difficult to timematch the transcript and video with automation.", "Why you gotta post a link from a weird conspiracy account...\n\n[msnbc link to full thing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5AoMNF7dnE)", "I mean look at the youtube account of the video you are responding to....", "What the hell's an institutionalist? Just a moderate who doesn't like the word moderate?", "This type of software does exist. Many companies and television productions use automated media monitoring services like [SnapStream](https://www.snapstream.com/) to record and search through live TV with ease. It uses the closed captioning on shows to create a transcript and then let's clients search through it to find exactly the clip they're looking for.", "It’s the ending that gets me. Haha", "How else are we supposed to know how to feel?" ]	65	videos	Rapper's Delight Brian Williams feat Lester Holt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY	/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/roblox_pressured_us_to_delete_our_video_so_we_dug/	[ "Anybody wanna post a TL;DW, please", "Excellent reporting 👏🏼 Thank you!", "Can't take credit but was a great video", "Very informative. I've known about Roblox for a long time but never knew what it was all about. Kinda disturbing, this really should be investigated officially.", "in short:\n\n&#x200B;\n\nroblox is a huge company. makes a lot of money.\n\n&#x200B;\n\npart of that money is made from minting new items on limited runs and making money when the price sky-rockets. some items selling for tens of thousands.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nit also makes money of child labour that is completely unregulated.\n\n&#x200B;\n\non top of all of this they seem to have no duty of care for the children they hook in. those that work on games are free to be exploited by others. particularly older people.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nthere's also grooming happening and those that are banned for it still seem to be making money from the games they made.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nneeds to be shutdown tbh. and all the owners and people who've made money off it need to have that money taken and be put in jail", "The SEC isn't going to like the price tickers on collectables, that's for sure. Sure, they're a corrupt organization but only when you work within their managed stock exchanges. The SEC will suddenly open their eyes when a listed company is trying to ape their game.", "Wow! Thank you for this. It's crazy there's such a loophole in legislation that doesn't prevent this", "other things that are sus about limited items:\n\n1. When ppl get hacked and lose their items, roblox uses item copies from banned accounts or sometimes creates copies from thin air to grant “rollbacks”\n\n2. There is a gambling site using them that hasn’t been shut down yet", "My 7 year old has been asking me to let him play Roblox for a while now.......", "yeah and they've built their company on it.\n\n&#x200B;\n\ni predict some stuff will change but the dickheads who profited will keep their money. when realistically they should be in jail.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nthey've basically built an online gambling sweatshop for kids run by paedophiles.", "Aaaaand Its only going to get worse with this dumb fucking \"Metaverse\" everyone is trying to make.... Don't even get me started on \"Sandbox\" or \"Decentraland\" or any other god awful 2nd life knock off..... \n\nOh boy i can't wait for this roller coaster.", "One thing to note is that it is technically impossible to DevEx robux gained from sales of limited items. However, because that makes Roblox sound too innocent, there is a site that lets people gamble with limiteds that hasn’t been shut down yet.", "TL;DW (but you should definitely watch it!)\n\nA previous video on Roblox by PMG reported on how the basic premise of Roblox, that it provides tools for children to make games for other children while allowing them to make money, was essentially mostly just an engine for Roblox to make money while crushing children's dreams with false opportunity.\n\nRoblox didn't like that and suggested that PMG should delete it for being \"wrong\" but when asked how the video was wrong, could only link to some blog some rando made responding to the video which PMG claims misrepresents the arguments of the previous video itself.\n\nThe video then goes on to list several additional problems with Roblox which have come to PMG's attention since. Most directly related to the previous issue, despite the vision that kids can make games for each other, actual success in Roblox's market goes mostly to collaborative efforts, encouraging developers to work in larger teams to increase production values. This leads to children either working for other children or adult strangers via off-site channels like discord, either with arbitrary contracts or no contracts at all. Roblox is publicly proud of the idea that games are developed by big teams for their platform but has no interest in safeguarding children who end up as part of these development groups. Roblox shut down their main forums, essentially forcing most of the community offsite to discords and other places where children are more vulnerable. On their developer forums, publicising bad treatment you've received from other developers is considered harrasment and is banned, reinforcing a culture of silence that prevents people who have been subject to scams or mistreatment from speaking out.\n\nAn example was given of a 12 year old girl who joined a development team of a popular Roblox game and got sexually explicit messages from the adult leader of that development team who knew she was a child. Roblox ultimately banned this individual but his games remain on the platform and he was able to transfer the monetisation of these games to a shell account which Roblox has refused to ban. He continues to develop these games. The child was, of course, accused by the developer's fans of trying to ruin his life because he \"rejected her\". Culture of silence, woo!\n\nRoblox also presents its collectables shop functionally as a stock market, with limited run items regularly released, and then only available after the end of that period by trading with other users for virtual currency or items. Roblox helpfully shows on the market how the item has historically performed over the past so users can see whether the value of the item is rising or falling, encouraging users (mostly children, remember) to purchase items with a view to selling them at a higher price. If this were in the real world it would be like trading cryptocurrency or NFTs and any system for trading it would likely forbid children from using it and put in a bunch of important documentation about the risk of losing money. Roblox includes neither safeguard. Note that if you make enough virtual currency you can convert it back to real money so there's a concrete financial value to this. [Edit: though apparently you can't convert currency gained from these sales, just money from other sources, but that's not necessarily an issue becaauuuuuse:\n\nAnd then lastly, there is a vibrant black market in the buying and selling of both these items and virtual currency with real money. This allows people to convert these things back into real world money or purchase those things with real world money at a much better rate than can be had through official channels, and despite their very public profile and long-lasting operation, Roblox seems to make no effort at all in clamping down on these outfits, and it's speculated that they are in truth a vital part of the Roblox economy.\n\nTL;DR Roblox, a platform built to help children be game developers, is probably not a safe environment for children since success on the platform hinges on either talking to strangers on offsite services like Discord, or gambling on a virtual stock market.", "> it also makes money of child labour that is completely unregulated.\n\nThis framing is kind of weird imo… there’s no coercion, these kids aren’t forced by Roblox to make games and they don’t need to make games if they don’t want to.\n\nDo you consider it child labour when TikTok makes money from the kids on there with big social media followings?\n\nWhen I think of child labour I think of kids that either have to work or starve to death so they choose the former and get paid pennies to make shoes… not some kid complaining because his Roblox game didnt pop off", "Scary to think a corporation like this is able to work so closely with children", "their content makes roblox money. they make games for the roblox platform. in my eyes that's labour. and they're children.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nin developed countries where kids are for the most part taken care of by parents then there'd be no definition of labour for them. as you can always argue there's no coercion.\n\n&#x200B;\n\ni did not call it slave labour. or forced labour. or anything else. but in the weird world of online they're making money for a corporation and not getting paid appropriately.\n\n&#x200B;\n\ni do think the practice of making money off children's tiktoks is wrong. i'm not so arsed about arguing what labels you want to put on that. this is qualitatively different.", "What's your point? It's not literal slavery or indentured servitude, so it's ok? Watch the video, the problem here isn't with the child labour, it's the unregulated nature of it.", "Uhh, I've been playing roblox my whole life and I've never had to buy an item. Seems like a boomer with a lack of understanding to me. \"And when you did try to buy something a warning that you need to be 18 pops up\"\n\nOh.........So you're entire argument that it's being done unauthorized/unmonitored got thrown out the window. GG.\n\nOh yeah, an auction website is just way too complicated for children to understand...Like I wasn't buying and selling things on ebay when I was 9-10 years old with my parents permission.", "Don't play. The end. Simple solution.", "Don't let your kids play? Its not that hard...", "Seems a simple solution is to not let your kid play lol.", "\"Don't get murdered\"\n\nHey guys I've solved all violent crime! Are you serious..?", "\"but it'll all be done through NFTs man so all the items are unique and stored on the blockchaind dude\"", "> This argument doesn't make sense.\n\nit's logically sound, you can dispute the content if you wish to, but i won't\n\n\nedit:\n\n > Nearly all activity that any user does online is earning someone money, like watching Youtube ads. Roblox earning money through gameplay is no different.\n\n vs.\n\n> they make games for the roblox platform.\n\nYour argument doesn't make sense. You compare a creative process which is used to generate income with watching ADs on youtube.", "oh damn! you created an account and username to get murdered? delete that shit fam", "What type of idiotic take is this? You can’t stop someone else from murdering you, you can stop you or your children from playing.", "I think the major issue is that they tell the kids that they can 'earn serious cash.' That is literally telling kids, make games for us and get paid. That is child labor. Roblox's lawyers apparently agreed because after the first vid it was removed from the front page of Roblox.", "They won't care because you cannot convert money gained from trading into cash. That's specifically so they can avoid regulation like this.", "> What's your point? It's not literal slavery or indentured servitude, so it's ok?\n\nLMAO.. yes, that’s exactly my point, I hope you realize forming it as a question doesn’t really help your case.\n\nIt’s independent game development so no you’re not gonna see stable wages and a 401k\n\nEither your game pops off or it doesn’t, that’s the risk you take developing games independently.\n\nWant regulation? Go work as an employee instead of making games on your own.", "You just reminded me that Roblox is 15 years old......", "A very different company from when I played it back in 2008.. I feel partially responsible for what the company is nowadays because I used to buy Robucks all the time for cosmetics and stuff, and uh... Yeah. I gave them my money so they grew larger and more EVIL 😂", "No it's not. Children like adults can generate income for a company by simply being present on the platform.\n\nMinecraft has made billions because of people using the platform's realms feature for themselves, and then inviting their friends.\n\nYour logic is so flawed because by your definition kids shouldn't be allowed to do anything on any platform.\n\nIf Roblox was demanding kids do 'X' to play, or doing 'X' will get you 'Y' in rewards, MAYBE you have a case, however this is just nonsense to infer that kids simply playing and making games with their friends is labour.", "Did any of the modders who made popular game modes on GMod such as Hide&Seek, TTT, Jailbreak, boat/flood mode, prop hunt, murder, etc get compensated or given a job by Valve?\n\nedited for horrible typos", "ew", "\"basically\"\n\nYes, sure, that's \"basically\" what Roblox is, isn't it? This is basically not hyperbole at all.", "coercing children to spend their time on creating games which are monetized later without their knowledge or involvement in monetary compensation can't be lawfull. and if you start to pay them it's labour per definition", "In all honesty Roblox limited trading and currency exchange taught me the main points about IRL markets. People will try to scam you at every opportunity, people will consistently offer you deals that look good on paper but don't reflect actual market conditions (inflated RAP deals), low prices have higher volatility, and an overabundance of supply & a lack of things to spend a currency on will cause massive inflation in that currency (tix lol).\n\nMaybe if we didn't treat kids like they're braindead idiots who will die if they make a single mistake we wouldn't be living in a world where adults feel like their lives are over when they make a mistake. We need to let kids screw up on their own in somewhat safe environments so they get used to failure. Millennials didn't have that and look where we are now.", "It's a 35 min video and I honestly sort of wanted to ask for the same thing. In short here is what I (someone who didn't even really know what Roblox is) understand from it.\n\n1. Roblox is an online platform/community with a user base primarily made up of children who create and distribute games amongst eachother.\n\n2. Roblox users can develop games and actually get paid for their use in a digital currency called Robux. Robux can be used for all sorts of on-platform things. But Robux can also be cashed out (or \"devex\"ed) for real currency. Yes. US Dollars, British Pounds, Euros, Japanese Yen. Any currency. In theory this is good for up and coming young developers wanting to continue to grow. \n\n3. This YouTuber exposed some of the flaws and issues with Roblox and rather than address them, Roblox just told them that their reporting is inaccurate (Roblox won't say how), and that the YouTuber needs to take the video down.\n\n4. Roblox has a tenuous-at-best grasp on how moderating a platform works. In fact, they've done away with most, if not all, of their cross-player communication platforms in what seems to be an effort to eliminate the need for moderation on the part of Roblox so that they have 0 liability. They simply state that they cannot help you if something happened outside of the roblox platform. This means if you're using the main platforms of communication and organization for the game itself (usually discord servers) that Roblox has completely wiped their hands of it. The video includes specific examples and interviews with a girl who was predated upon by a 24 year old user when she was 12, and a different kid who had all of his expensive items stolen from him that were later sold for what amounted to about $50,000. Both of these cases were ignored by Roblox.\n\n5. Roblox has a literal stock market for kids that they unashamedly run with 0 warnings or oversight. They produce little graphics and trinkets you can add to your avatar and offer them at a nominal cost in Robux. Many of the more limited items later skyrocket in price and to track this Roblox has literally implemented a stock chart for each item. Yes, children can track how much their items are worth on a day to day basis and literally gamble on items by trying to identify ones that are undervalued and buy them in hopes the price goes up. Moreover, they continue to partner with brands and influencers in creating more and more of these limited edition items. Now, it's bad enough that we're encouraging children to gamble with digital currency that can be cashed out for real money, but what's worse is that for every transaction Roblox takes 30%. THIRTY percent of the transaction. Yeah... thirty. This means that they're literally minting an NFT that they sell for a nominal price knowing full well that it will be worth exponentially more and that they're going to profit off of it at a child's expense.\n\nEdit: it appears I misunderstood something about robux. You apparently cannot cash out robux you make from trading or selling items for real money on the roblox site. But from the looks of the black market sites out there you can, you just need to be smart about it.", "When I was 12 I was selling in game items on ebay... (against ToS, blizzard was a lot smaller back then), by then i had helped my dad sell stuff on ebay for a bit. \n\nI don't think anyone has an issue with this part.\n\nIt's the gambling pedo's that's the problem (how did you miss that?)\n\nIt's the wild west, and in these kinds of situations there is always someone getting exploited (kids), and someone raking in tonnes of money (gambling pedos).", "Roblox' unregulated employment of minors to perform labour exposes them to harm that constitutes:\n\n moral harm (a la sexual harassment and grooming), \n* social harm (such as warped/misguided financial attitudes and behaviours), and \n* mental harm (e.g. stress, anxiety, the aforementioned sexual harassment)\n\nConsidering these are critical parts of the literal definition of child labour, I'm struggling to see how this label is misleading.", "How dare you interfere with the outrage machine?", "Deleting your kids video game is the same thing as stopping everyone in the world from murdering each other?", "Yeah ok but I have a sexy Dominus Messor and a Darkheart from trading so…", "Can I get a tldr on this.", "If the solution to not gambling your money away was simply \"don't gamble, the end\", we wouldn't already have laws preventing kids from gambling.", "Thank you, I enjoyed the first half, but I gotta go to work", "I think the idea of children making games is awesome, and Roblox is a way for that to happen. However that also means they should be 100% responsible for what happens in that environment. If they are taking a hands off approach, they shouldn't be doing it in the first place.", "How is it coercion?", "If anyone is looking for a game that would actually let kids experiment with making games, Dreams is my go-to.", "I have a couple nephews who play roblox so I joined to spend some time with them. While some of the games are quite enjoyable, it's really a wild west of frustration mechanic pay to win games. They have a bunch of Among Us clones and in every one of them you can pay to be the imposter. In a paintball game, you can pay like $100 for a gun that fires like 10000 rounds per minute whereas the best gun you can feasibly get for free is about 100 rpm.", "What if you make robux off trading and spend it all in a game your parents published?", "Ah yes, of course, facilitating systematic abuse isn't quite as bad as actually committing it. Quite right, my mistake!\n\nAnd how could I fail to see that the literal definition of employment (including a contract, salary, and adherence to federal labour laws) doesn't apply in this case, totally invalidating the crux of the matter that minors are being incentivized to perform labour in exchange for perceived value! How utterly daft of me!\n\nI'm tempted to not attribute to your malice that which could be adequately explained by your stupidity but I'm afraid I'm failing in that as well...", "How do you go from saying it functions like a stock market to saying it’s like nft and crypto. Literally just typing buzzwords", "roblox...that shitty offshoot lego brand?", "The problem is, this goes on with every platform. Kids know they can make money by making youtube videos. That doesn't make it labour.\n\nThis whole video is strange to me, every point made just sounds like they think Roblox has a moral duty to police the entire internet.\n\nDon't let your kids do weird shit with strangers on the internet. My parents learned that 30 years ago.", "A lot of games on Roblox are just \"spend money to suppress other players fun\" or other FOMO exploiting techniques. It's fucked.", "I know this dude from shut up and sit down. Didn't know he had another channel or is he a guest?\n\n\nAnyway, I recommend his other channel shut up and sit down.", "Dont tell this guy about baseball and soccer clubs then.", "All I know is I sold my roblox items for $500 on one of these black market sites a few years ago", "I'm surprised a Sonic game is making money on a childrens platform led by someone openly suspected to be a pedophile is ok with Sega. (Or that they haven't heard of it)", "I don't see how much of this can be pinned on Roblox. Games have had tools to develop games for years. The biggest one I can think of is warcraft 3's custom map editor. This map editor was so flexible that it spawned entire genres of games. League of Legends started as DotA which was a custom map built in warcraft 3. \n\nThese games required teams of developers to make, modify, and improve over many years and the teams mostly communicated on open forums. None of that is any different from Roblox. \n\nIt seems the problem is the monetization by roblox, but they removed the advertisement telling kids they could make money so I don't really see the problem. (Saying that roblox \"quietly\" removed this ad is a little manipulative. No company announces when they remove an ad or a service). \n\nI feel like discord is a bigger part of the problem than roblox here. Discord replaced open forums. It keeps everything private. It gives predators unmoderated access to communicate with kids. There are so many scandals involving discord these days.\n\nedit: also regarding the collectability of in game items and secondary market, this is nothing new. I don't approve of it and think it should stop, but it's no different from the beanie baby craze of the 80s, or the entire secondary market of collectible card games like magic the gathering and pokemon.", "Oversensationalized? I think the title is really accurate. The video adresses Roblox's response to the first video, and this video provides even more information. The title is a bit cliché but I wouldn't call it oversensationalized.", "Have they heard of Barbra Streisand?\n\nI had no idea about any of this; TIL!", "You don't make any money since there's a 30% tax on each transaction. And there's a massive spread between the buy price for robux and the sell price.", "TL;", "Sounds like you're well informed now and can kindly say no", "These markets are not illegal, but just against the Tos or something similar of the store you use.", ">their content makes roblox money. they make games for the roblox platform. in my eyes that's labour. and they're children.\n\nSomewhere around 20% of reddit users are under 18 years old. By your own logic, /u/thotsky_27 is an active consumer of a website that engages in labour exploitation of children.", "> Uhh, I've been playing roblox my whole life and I've never had to buy an item. Seems like a boomer with a lack of understanding to me. \n\nJust because you've never used a feature doesn't mean that his argument about said feature is invalid.\n\n> \"And when you did try to buy something a warning that you need to be 18 pops up\"\n\n>Oh.........So you're entire argument that it's being done unauthorized/unmonitored got thrown out the window. GG.\n\nSo you don't think it's at all problematic at all that Roblox, a game targeted for the vast majority at children, has a whole gambling community integrated into it, using real money, with the only barrier of entry for children being a single button press? \n\n> Oh yeah, an auction website is just way too complicated for children to understand...Like I wasn't buying and selling things on ebay when I was 9-10 years old with my parents permission.\n\nThe issue here is that it's integrated into Roblox and they actively encourage users to use it, while taking a cut. Black markets for online games will always exist, and children will always use them (which is what you're talking about), but this isn't a black market. And even in the case of most video game black markets, at least those companies make a vague attempt to step up and stop those type of events, while Roblox refuses to even acknowledge them.", "If that goes for all kids, then why do we tolerate the company itself?", "You'd take multiple cuts and it would likely end up not being profitable.", "That game is crack for kids. I have a nephew that has been hooked on that shit for years.\n\n I watched him play once and he was just standing at attention with a bunch of other kids, I assume, for hours. Some kind of weird military roleplay. Pretty sure my sister spends hundreds a year for that \"game\".\n\n And yeah, he has had discord for a while and I remember my sister being all concerned about Xbox live and running into adults there but does not see an issue with discord.", "My understanding is that they patched things up so only robux earned by developers as game profits can be officially converted into real money.\n\nFor anyone who earned money trading, the only remaining option is the black market sites.", "Right but the issue is that parents are not aware of what's happening on Roblox.", "I feel like it's a big difference and its pretty glaringly apparent from the video.\n\nI played ice hockey as a kid and as far as I know there is no billionaire CEO of kids ice hockey who makes money off of me and the local hockey store every time I go buy new skates or sticks. I also wasn't building the training facilities or ice rinks for them to turn around and sell for others to use.", "Yes and gambling was only a part of the big mess that the skin market is nobody should recreate something like that with valve managing theirs already really bad", "It's like your eyes just stopped working when they encountered the second paragraph of my reply. That's super cool! You should see a doctor, I'm sure they'd love to write a paper about your amazing vision!", "I've always had a feeling that something about Roblox was off.", "because people bet on the rise and fall of the values, like people do with the stock market, NFTs and crypto?", "No. But GMod wasn't marketed to anyone by the creator as a place to come make money and be an entrepreneur to start your dev career. Garry himself wasn't even able to get a job at Valve. But GMod isn't a Valve product. Nobody asked him to make it for their platform", "Wow i didnt see this coming at all, who would have seen this coming /s", "They have a background in journalism ffs, IIRC Eurogamer.", "I agree with all of your points, but the first website was published 30 years ago, in August 1991. I'd be interested to hear how your parents learned that lesson and what the heck you did with a tiny internet.", "Exactly this. Like I said, if they forced children to spend X hours making games before they could play. That is extortion and easily definable as minor labour. However these kids just want to make games with their friends.", "You won't get a reply because this individual has no fucking idea what he's talking about.", "A lot of the IP usage goes under the radar and nobody is out to report it cause they're all kids. I mean shit people have done clones of theme parks and even those get struck down here and there.", "He didn't say it functions like a stock market. He said that's what Roblox says.", "> their content makes roblox money\n\nYou could say the same thing about Minecraft. For that matter, you could say the same thing about reddit. Reddit produces no content itself, we provide that. Are we being exploited because we're not paid? No. That's not how any of this works.", "I'm a gamer, I've never played Roblox because I always thought it looked like it was for kids. I have however traded RBLX on the stock market because I like supporting gaming companies.\n\nI had no idea this was under the surface. I wont be trading RBLX again.", "Personal responsibility does not replace the need for regulation", "I think it's fair to say 'quietly' as the only reason they removed it was because of outside pressure from people calling them out. Generally, businesses will release a statement if they do something like this as a result of outside pressure. Whether that statement is super PR-based...and kind half truths...is another matter (usually yes). \n\nI don't know a huge amount about the whole roblox thing, but the main issue doesn't appear to be that developers scale teams - it is instead that kids are being taken advantage of in the system and there are no controls. And it is not an excuse to say it's part of the ecosystem because there is definitely big real life value in the outcome.", "Your argument here amounts to \"let children get scammed and preyed upon so that they can learn for the future\" rather than \"let's protect and educate children maturely, reasonable, and most important responsibly.\"\n\nEveryone here defending roblox acts like kids deserve to be fucked over.", "You seem to base your view on children being bombarded by ads not _also_ being insanely disturbing or negative. That's quite the presumption to have and make an argument upon. It's outlawed in its several forms, for example targetting must not be applied to children, at all, in all of Europe, the US (in particular Florida iirc?). It probably should be outlawed even more strongly.", "Quinns has been with them since the start of the pandemic, so not just a guest.", "Thank you for the exhaustive summary", "Reddit doesn’t financially encourage users to make popular posts that other users pay money to view.", "Yeah, definitely. I don't think anybody understands the amount of money moving inside Roblox either. This isn't too different from someone releasing a Sonic game on steam in the end.", "I wish you let me sell my stock before releasing this video", "Oh jeez, and here i didnt even know people made money from the games on roblox. Very informative video, thanks for sharing op.", "Just to add on, found this channel a while ago and they really kick ass! I'd say very underrated at the moment, so figured i'd shill for them in the comments haha. I'll link a few of my favorites from them if anyone's interested. \n\n[Why have these people been playing Cookie Clicker for SEVEN YEARS?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFl99Wieknw&t=507s)\n\n[How neopets was sold to Scientologists](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI5cu3G5oXk)\n\n[Can you really get rich in the world's only \"cash-based\" MMO?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTPLp5u3iSU)\n\nI have no connection to them, but hype to see them pop up on reddit!", "I mean, if using slightly better grammar and diction than average meant I could be rich beyond human necessity I'm not sure why I'd ever stop.\n\nAlso, pro tip: ad hominems work better when you haven't thoroughly demonstrated your inability to comprehend simple sentences.", ">is probably not a safe environment for children since success on the platform hinges on either talking to strangers on offsite services like Discord, or gambling on a virtual stock market.\n\nThey literally can't control this though (other than the gambling sites which they could try to take down, but even then think about the cs lotto scam sites that take forever to get taken down because of how hard it is to do). I mean users can't make any money from trading anyways (devex only applies to robux earned by developing something and they do an extensive audit of the robux you're trying to exchange)... Unless you're a solo developer, game development will obviously involve multiple developers. There's no way around that, it's just objective fact. They can't exactly control the actions of their users when they decide to develop a game. I mean it's against discord's tos to sign up if you're <13, how could roblox control that? And you can't say they don't try. You can't even say the word \"disc\" in relation to a cd because it's commonly used to bypass the filter for \"discord.\" They've essentially banned all mentions of it on their platform for people <13, who can't see the social links. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nFurthermore, while they can make changes to their algorithm, they more than likely won't directly influence which games make it to the top without a deal with them. There is no way to go about it that is best for everyone, and that is literally just the truth of game development. Roblox provides a way for you to access hundreds of millions of users, which is more than any other platform offers for indie devs (while I personally think itch is better for indie devs, the numbers literally aren't even comparable). To be fair a <13 user shouldn't even be getting successful on any platform like this. Not only can they not devex the robux they make, but just from their age alone they don't have the mental capacity to deal with a large community and it would probably put a lot of stress on their psyche. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nThere are definitely things they can improve on, but dealing with <13 yo's online is already a slippery slope. It's honestly either what they do now, or a ban on all <13 yo's on the platform in general. While there are many jokes you can make saying this is fine, it really isn't. Roblox is a way for young people to get into the STEM field. It's how I got into it 11 years ago when I was 7, and now I'm completing my degree in software development. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nAnd it's not even really fair to roblox at this point because they're being pushed from both sides. <13 yo's are trying to expand their \"rights\" on roblox. Literally, every now and then I see people posting on the devforum that they believe they feel cheated that older developers are being chosen over them based on age alone. And yeah, that's true, I work for a studio and afaik they don't hire anyone under 13. They argue that they are being looked over by these potential \"employers\" because of their age due to things like experience, and maturity. And yeah, that's also true... And it's for good reason, they're almost impossible to regulate legally online, so plenty of studios just don't hire them.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nOn the other side, they're being pushed to restrict them even more for their safety. Concerned parents, and other groups, are pushing for them to be more strict on children. And that also makes sense. They could disable all user chat for <13 entirely, including in game chat, messages, comments on assets (including games), and everything else. They could remove all access to publishing games or editing published games (that would solve this problem entirely, but also create even more problems).\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThey are in a real precarious position, they're one of the few online services to offer their service to <13 yo's (regarding tos, anyways), they need to find a balance for both sides that doesn't lose them their primary user base. And unfortunate circumstances do arise out of this.", "Nice! I am the journalist who wrote this video and I approve of this TL;DR", "I don't really think it's any different from sites like newgrounds though. Basing your business model entirely off of user generated content is a huge risk. If you don't cross that popularity threshold your site/game/whatever will be completely devoid of content. If teams of users are taking advantage of kids to try and make content, that's kind of on the users. Which again is partly the fault of discord being a forum consisting entirely of invite-only servers. \n\nForums have never been kind to kids. Sites like 4chan have always been flooded with 12 year olds. That doesn't make the things they are exposed to right, but there aren't many solutions when kids are given unlimited unregulated access to the internet. \n\nAgain the big problem regarding roblox's involvement seems to be them saying kids can make money, but they removed that so I see the issue as resolved.\n\nI'm not super familiar with the history of it, but Flash was the OG content creating tool for kids and I'm seeing a lot of similarities between this and that.", "That doesn't really matter in the context of the point I'm responding to. Children are actively engaged using and posting on the site, and reddit derives its income from that. If you want to dig deeper, you could make the argument that the reddit redesign and certain new features are an attempt to further draw in a younger crowd, which reddit seeks to exploit for monetary gain.", "Are we against people using the stock market now?", ">let's protect and educate children maturely, reasonable, and most important responsibly\n\nThis entails letting kids make mistakes on their own rather than preventing them from doing anything wrong and lecturing them on how to avoid making mistakes. Inevitably when kids have any sort of responsibility they make mistakes. Decades ago kids used to spend their money on xray goggles that didn't work or limited edition comic books that sucked. Now they're spending their money on roblox scams and limited hats. Kids need to learn responsibility and sometimes that entails letting them spend their money on roblox hats or what not. Otherwise they don't learn that lesson and turn into adults that lose a legitimately meaningful amount of money in shit like ICOs, 419 scams, fake IRS calls, etc etc.\n\nI don't want my kids to grow up to be like gullible boomers who believe anything on Facebook or neurotic millennials that think communism works.", "Reading comprehension?", "Sentence fragment?", "“Lets go Child Labor Force lets go!”\n\n-Tuong Lu Kim South Park", "Could always take short positions", "The point you are responding to is in the context of the video. They are encouraged to contribute to roblox with the promise of “earning cash.” Words directly from Roblox’s website. That’s money in exchange for labor, aimed at children.", "I mean why do we have child regulations on gambling right? Just should be \"if parent approves, then child gambling is ok.\"\n\nI'm not exactly sure your point here. Because you never had issues with impulse control and understood the value of money, that means all children under 12 have great impulse control and understand the value of money?\n\nThere were multiple stories in the video of parents being giving thousands in bills because Roblox allows children to spend that much. There was even an anecdotal account (something I'm suprised you don't give more weight to given your want to using your own anecdotal experience as a definitive counterfactual to the whole investigative reporting being done) of a child making thousands off a game he created, and then spending it all without ever talking to his parents. What a great parental intervention that was when he was swinging around thousands in cash flow when he was only 13, that neither of his parents got involved in. Very responsible.", "We all made and learned from mistakes as kids. That concept isn't lost on me. But to me this is a more outright form of exploitation. Especially since the platform profits off of the software development that kids have produced. \n\nSet the gambling and poor moderation aside for a second. \n\nWouldn't it be nonsensical if Rockstar built a sandbox for developers and then just told everyone that GTA VI needs to be built by the users and then any profits from the game go to Rockstar where they can then determine what to pay the people that actually made the game worth playing?\n\nWhy is it different since they're kids creating kids' games?\n\nBack to the poor moderation. Is it a great learning experience for that 12 year old girl to have a 24 year old authority figure make sexual advances toward her? Should we allow this predatory behavior to go unchecked so that the girl is now smarter for this interaction? Do you not feel that this is a damaging experience for a developing child? Do you not recognize that thousands of children just in the US alone fall victim to this type of predation and worse every year and it all starts with seemingly innocent conversation between a grown adult and an impressionable child? \n\nI feel like a lot of the people here are sweeping aside valid arguments because the guy in the video has some (very minor) misunderstandings of the platform and then just calling him a \"boomer\" as if that validates your point.\n\nEdit: also the dude in the video who was talking to that girl is 100% a pedophile who tried to groom her. Let's be honest here. You don't use language like that with a child as some sort of joke if you're a reasonable human. At 24 you know what you're doing is wrong. If you defend this type of shit you're despicable. You certainly don't just \"ok boomer\" that shit away like some angsty teen.", "My daughter plays Roblox with her friends, they have never made their own games. They always play on the popular games at the time. \n\nI agree with you the hands of approach is doing it wrong.", "Development can be a bit of a mess, but as long as you have the proper filters set up for your child, there really isnt anything wrong with the games themselves.", "This was how it was over 10 years ago, this is how it is now. Everybody knows it (but doesn't want to acknowledge it necessarily)", "Me too! I love people make games, another good channel is Thomas Game Docs if you're interested in informative gaming videos, though they aren't quite as \"journalistic\" like the video above.", "how is that different from steam market?", "Unsurprising really since Roblox itself teaches this behaviour.", "Damn, I’m 21 and still play Roblox with my younger siblings. We’ve been playing together since I was like 16. We even still play with some of their friends that they had back then. I was already aware that the game had issues but I had no idea any of that stuff went on.", "Yes, I also watched the video.\n\nIf your argument is that Roblox has the potential to provide a material benefit in exchange for the exploitation while reddit seeks to exploit without material benefit, then I'm not sure that reddit could claim the moral highground here.", "The most popular games sometimes have more concurrent players than the top games on steam. Last year it hit 1.9 MILLION concurrent players. Thats 600k more than CSGO's all time concurrent high.", ">When I think of child labour I think of kids that either have to work or starve to death so they choose the former and get paid pennies to make shoes… not some kid complaining because his Roblox game didnt pop off\n\nIf I saw a 12-yo working at McDonald's, starving or not, I would be very concerned. Child labour is an issue not because \"oh no otherwise they'd starve we should give them food or something,\" it's because it's fundamentally exploitation.", "I will be checking in on RBLX stock just to see it plummet from now on", "If you, as a parent, find out your kid is into game development, sit down and learn Unreal Engine or Unity with them. It might be hard but not impossible and i can imagine that'll be a great way of spending time together, figuring stuff out as you go along.", "I don’t know much about Roblox. Does it work like independent mod projects and so forth for other games? Because that would be impossible for the company to oversee. Any laws or regulations in that direction would straight up kill all mod support in games because no company is going to do that.", "r/wallstreetbets", "tldr: roblox bad", "You don't even have to read, it's a video. You don't even have to watch just listen to it in the background.", "You're right. That's why there's such a huge pressure for regulation of online markets right now. I don't think the general public takes this topic anywhere near as serious as they should.", "When I was 10 in 2000 I worked as a “games master” on graal online running in game mini games. I had to apply and answer like 3 pages of questions to get the job. I honestly don’t know how old the other people were but I know most of them were older than me! I was very active on the servers 3rd party forums. My parents didn’t police me or anything but they did talk to me about being careful with this type of stuff. Me and my brother actually even got one of our friends from the game to come from Pennsylvania to New York to come to our camp for a summer. My mom called him mom to make sure it wasn’t really a 40 year old guy.", "I see what you're trying to say, but you need to see some of the evidence shown on this channel.\n\nChildren making games for other children on Roblox is not a big deal.\n\nChildren being told they can make money, when in reality the system is designed so they really can't without putting in a tremendous number of hours, and have to sign up with adult strangers on off-site communities, with zero to little protection/oversight and an overt effort from the game developers to prevent policing, is a big deal. And then when you throw in the big profits Roblox is making off of the children who do buy into it, it really begins to stink.", "Well, children, yes", "At first I read Rolex and how they're creating artificial supply issues so that their demand goes up, but I'll be watching this too.", "My kid made some games on roblox and shared with her friends. Fun but probably won't make millions. She developed a lot of skills by making the games. It's not viable to break into the market but very fun. Developers are being taken advantage of always they need contracts to secure their pay. I wish that wasn't true but that's how it's been for life. I am subbed to roblox monthly and pay real money for the entertainment value of items or add ons on the games. Spend $20 going to the movies once a month or $20 for gaming 🤔 entertainment value is real.", "> If they are taking a hands off approach, they shouldn't be doing it in the first place.\n\nIt really wouldn't be so bad if that was really the case; think of any child messing around with Mario Maker for example, or any other free beginner-friendly game authoring tool... But, as it stands, Roblox is actively exploiting the work of children to make money...", "Because immoral companies always fail. Oh hang on...", "I knew something was skeevy about this game/platform. My six year old got into it over the summer with her cousin and I just couldn't wrap my head around it, but it never felt like anything more than a cash grab. Of course I never gave my daughter any cash to use in game, but compared to something like Minecraft, Roblox just felt... off. Seems it wasn't just me being a crotchety old man, though I never suspected any of this shit that I'm reading now. Holy fuck.\n\nThankfully she deleted the game some time ago, partly at my insistence, but it won't be coming back now, that's for sure.", "Solution to what?", "Jan23 $35 puts are cheap enough to throw some money at and see what happens.", "> I don't want my kids to grow up to be like gullible boomers who believe anything on Facebook or neurotic millennials that think communism works.\n\nThen teach them rather than allowing them to possibly be exploited.", "I mean in the video above they show how there are less than desirable people in charge of projects that are being worked on by children. And the dude they single almost certainly has some skeletons in his closet if that's how he talks to kids and gets his \"employees\" in the most backhanded way defend him.", "Thanks for posting this. Watching part of the video and the tldw above, I was thinking some of these things don't sound like something roblox can really deal with, like the black market stuff. And the collectibles market functioning like a stock market? That's not using real money, kids aren't putting their livelihood or future at risk, that sounds amazing and educational, not like something we want to start applying SEC rules to.\n\nI think the focus on the bigger developers is unfortunate and maybe roblox should balance it, but realistically good games are what draws players like my daughter in. Bored of other games? If there's not something engaging and not-buggy / polished enough to play, they'll just leave the roblox system.\n\nThe child harassment is really unfortunate. That part I agree on, but it can be difficult to investigate claims properly. And if things aren't investigated properly, malicious users can use any anti-abuse system's consequences against innocent users (this happens frequently, ex. Wow classic players spamming reports to automated-ban the leader of a competing guild during time-sensitive content launches).", "I mean, if you just want to throw money away like that there's better ways to do it. Lighting the dollar bills on fire and watching them burn would at least be more entertaining.", "> Back to the poor moderation. Is it a great learning experience for that 12 year old girl to have a 24 year old authority figure make sexual advances toward her?\n\nthat's why it's necessary to ensure kids have safe environments to make mistakes in because otherwise you're pushing them into discord servers where \"learning from mistakes\" doesn't entail losing $10 worth of ROBUX but being raped by adult men. But ROBLOX killed off the forums because they didn't want to deal with that and now every roblox community for a game is offsite. \n\nAlso, the 70% profit margin on developers makes some sense because it's not a \"sandbox for developers\". Roblox is providing the tools, they're providing the web hosting, they're providing the scalability, they're providing the engine, they're providing mobile, they're providing the monetization, they're providing pretty much everything except the actual game itself. And kids have to pay nothing up front to do any of this. Only when they actually make money do they have to start dealing with the complicated administrative aspects of game development.\n\nFor pretty much any 14 year old, parents are not going to front them money to purchase an Unreal license or an iOS developer license. They're not going to let the kid give their banking info to Google so they can get money. No employer is going to hire them to be a programmer. But parents will let kids develop on ROBLOX. That's the niche Roblox fills and while sure, a 14 year old with skills could easily make far more money on their own, the fact is that for a young kid it's pretty much impossible to launch an MMO on their own.", "How is there not an official investigation of this yet? Pretty scary and predatory", "people learn from making mistakes.", "I was wondering the same thing. \nSteam already has skins with graphs, actual dollar values, loot/gambling boxes, etc. and they've been around for quite some time now.", "Why? It’s not real money", "Moons in /r/cryptocurrency? They are headed that direction eventually for better or worse.", "If you're so sure you could always go short those puts", "they literally are. they investigated. as journalists. did you watch the video or are you a Roblox shill?", "And I thought Roblox was just a boring baby game thingy, it's pretty much a gold mine", "Roblox is very immoral lol\n\nAside from essentially becoming a sweatshop for a singular currency, the community itself is pretty fucked;\nWired did an article on a group that I was in (back in like 2013) that indoctrinated kids into national socialism\n\nhttps://www.wired.com/story/roblox-online-games-irl-fascism-roman-empire/\n\nThis group was featured and advertised by Roblox on their blog 🤷‍♂️\n\nEdit 2: \n\na) The Nazis used the term \"National Socialism\" to appeal to both the left and right - the main aspect of fascism is its intent on being a Hegelian synthesis of ideologies (hence, \"third way\"). Yet it's very much an ideology of militant pragmatism, as proven by it's purging of socialists and communists, and eschewing of Aryanism when convenient. That is why the term is as useful in terms of accurately depicting the ideology as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is at being any of the four parts of its name. \n\nb) The fact it's a propaganda term (as above) doesn't change the fact its effective in providing who I'm talking about. I could have used Nazi, but I didn't. In my mind national socialism is better for referring to the ideology, so contextually better, but either are interchangeable.\n\nc) I'm a democratic socialist. If you think I have an agenda against socialism because I used National Socialism instead of Nazism, you're frankly a moron and sum up why Redditors have a stereotype.\n\nd) I dug my heels in because if you make an ACKSUALLY post on something as trivial as me using the long form, then I automatically hate you and want you to be wrong. If this was r/AskHistorians, I'd be more than receptive to being anally pedantic about it. But you knew what I was talking about and wanted to make an issue anyway lol.\n\ne) The edit is longer than the post because of two words triggering the shit out of a couple of bitching basement dwellers ;)\n\nI've had a couple of great comments discussing the article in question though. The game and community is pretty shit!", "Lmfao or just not touch that megashitty play? More than 30 billion dollars of market cap would have to disappear in the next month for that to pay out. \n\n\nYour logic is nonexistent.", "Or spending it all on a game your parents published.", "It is completely opt-in, with basically zero benefits for or examples of abusive parents forcing children to work? \n\nAnd there's no wage, no expectations of performance on the minors, no consequences for inadequate \"work\", the \"work\" itself is highly educational and extremely not labor-intensive (as that phrase is used)\n\nReach much? I feel like everyone claiming this has absolutely no idea what child labor is/was or how the laws came to be. It feels like antivaxxers claiming to be just as oppressed as jews in Nazi Germany.", "I mean, Roblox are riding a wave of popularity while exploiting child labor without any regard whatsoever for the people who create the content that keeps the platform going. I just don't see that kind of business model faltering anytime soon unless and until something fundamentally changes in the gaming industry, and that's a much more powerful condemnation of the business of gaming than it looks like on its surface.\n\nThe real culprit here is Games As A Service (GAAS). I have a hard copy of Unreal Tournament from 1999; if I wanted to, I can install it, run it, and start playing online matches with my friends without ever needing to phone in with Epic to make sure it's okay, because developers used to sell complete games back then. (DISCLAIMER: Yes, installing an old-ass game like that is still a major hassle involving a surprising number of hoops to jump through, but you get the idea.)\n\nToday, players don't own shit. You pay for a license that allows you to log on to THEIR servers, using THEIR client, consuming THEIR content. If a developer decides to take their game offline, there is exactly jack shit you can do about it. If Riot tomorrow decides that that's enough LoL, all that shit you bought with real money will just go POOF because with GAAS, the player owns nothing.\n\nI wonder what'd happen if the developers at a modern, big-name development studio rebelled against the money goons and decided to create an online game where they sell players both the client software and the server software so we could run our own dedicated servers for as long as we want.", "This doesn't mean that you should leave heroin laying around in your house.", "Is there anything like that for PC?", "I like to toss them at strippers so they can buy more smack.", "I'd love to know what you're smoking if you think most parents have the time to \"sit down and learn Unreal Engine or Unity\". Do you have any kids and do you work full-time while raising them?", "Quinns! Massive fan of SU&SD, you guys have helped me so much with buying board games!\n\nSomehow managed to miss this other channel, can’t wait to dive in!", "I used to work at a public library. The computers were plagued with kids playing Roblox, and often some random game or mod they played with would contain a virus, not sure if that’s an issue anymore though with roblox. One time an adult using the computers came up and complained that the kids were accessing sexually explicit content. They had apparently been playing on a “Sex RP BDSM” server that someone set up. Definitely not a safe environment for children.", "Dunno but Blender could be fun if that's up alley.", "This needs more attention. What the fuck is going on here? How can anybody be OK with this child labor?!", "You're talking to a child. They likely think of gambling restrictions and other restrictions on kids as unfair.", "That's not a boomer.\nYour argument is basically \"because I was fine it should be fine\" type anecdote?\n\nThe premise of the video is holding a platform accountable to have at least in place tools to moderate against the worst situations especially when dealing with kids. Regardless of your personal interactions there are some inherent issues with it.", "You clearly don't know what it means to go short puts", "Call it what it is, fascism, specifically Nazism. No need to use their own euphemisms.", "Skip to the last part if you dont watch the whole thing because that's a great summary.\n\nHow the fuck is roblox bigger than nintendo", "I don't have kids, I'm 31 and me and my GF want a kid in the forseable future. We both live in the Netherlands. I work as a freelance software developer that mainly focuses on real time audio visual installations atm. I work from home, i will probably work from home in the nearby future. I can only speak for myself and my personal life, but i have the time and space on my hands to teach that kid some stuff about game development.\n\n\\- Edit: \nThanks for the downvote u/ScalpelBurn2 but honestly, the majority of people in western society have the time to at least spend some time with their kids. I don't need an actual kid to know what that time could be. Maybe stop sending your kid to soccer practice if they clearly don't like sports. \n\n\n\\- Edit 2: \nAs this has seemed to spark off an interesting discussion on whether or not to spend time with your kids learning something together, even if your kid wants to do something you'd might not be able to pull off. I just want to say you should absolutely spend time with your kids doing stuff they want to do. I don't care if it's games, sports or whatever. I would, if i could. No matter what it is.", "I do. My point is that your options aren’t just to take one of two sides of an option because you dislike a company. The winning move is to not touch the stock in any way.", "I can't wait for Roller Coaster Tycoon Crypto & NFTs too! /s", "I did - it's literally said in the title of the article and via 'National Socialism' lol. Seems really, really pedantic when there's a far far bigger issue at play.", "He wants to trade RBLX \"to support game devs\". So by his own logic he could short them to harm them. And shorting does put pressure on the price", "This is so disappointing, there are a million potential use cases I could think of that would make this a really useful and fun educational tool for children. It would really not take that many additional safeguards but it would obviously not be as profitable for the org.\n\nEven the \"stock market\" and earnings for content creation could be fixed. So irresponsible.", "Which company has the moral highground is a matter of opinion which I couldn’t convince you one way or the other on and vice versa. Both aren’t great in my eyes.\n\nChild labor is regulated area of labor law in the US. My argument is that encouraging a primarily child audience to make content to “earn cash” is child labor in a legal sense. \n\nDo youtube channels (with youtube complicit) exploit children through creating low effort ad-farm videos? Yes. \n\nShould that be considered child labor? No. \n\nWhen compared to roblox, which has the moral highground? Not relevant to the argument.\n\nHope this clears that up.", "Aiding, abetting, profiting from and otherwise knowingly assisting. And they might actually be liable in a way Valve isn't because you can directly cash out, not just to store credit. Even Valve had only a paper thin protection when the controversy hit it because of those tiny details.\n\nNot being able to directly cash out to hard currency it what got steam off that hook. Roblox has a route out and that might sink it.\n\nThey know what they are doing and who they are doing it too. The hammer tends to flatten operations like that.", "Very high quality journalism", "Some dumbass really must regret not starting Scratch 3D earlier", "I'm 28 now and don't plan to have kids but if I ever have kids I will only let them play SNES, PS1, PS2 games for the first 12 years and then give them my Steam account to play games. I honestly don't want my kids to play stuff like Roblox. I think Fortnite and fifa are similar. All these games seem like virtual casinos", "Decent TLDR but it’s important to note that ingame currency made off of the “stock system” with limited collectables cannot be transferred into real life money", "I wouldn’t compre to forums - there’s a big difference in posting memes and coding games. And no teams are working on memes (except Qanon? Xd)\n\nI guess you’re right about the advertising part tho it’s a good step. And they should at least try to protect kids. Unsure about the US, but in Europe the standard is much higher and they can’t argue it’s for everyone.. it’s clearly primarily a kids game", ">So you're entire argument that it's being done unauthorized/unmonitored got thrown out the window.\n\nIt takes real effort to be this stupid. Bravo.", "Check out his blaseball stuff. It's like witnessing insanity.", "Very possible that is a business pivot they make to make reddit profitable. That wasn’t the fundamental business model though. When reddit starts encouraging children to post for cash, I’ll call that child labor also.", "this is a sad comment", "Bless Valve for still releasing games that allow community servers. Idk about dota 2 but I’m 99% sure all the other games can be played regardless of valve’s servers", "I see how my comments can come across like I don't think Roblox deserves their cut. But I agree that they deserve to be making revenue in some form. My problem (and the issue the guy in video takes) is that they're going about it in ways that are unchecked, unregulated and downright shady. They fail to protect users which should be a basic responsibility of all software platforms that are like this, but especially one for kids. They've also introduce commerce and free market into a platform that is easy for well informed and smarter individuals to exploit and leaves kids at a massive disadvantage. And your response to that ( and Roblox's) seems to be \"too bad, so sad, get over it.\" \n\nThe benefit of Roblox should be to give kids a safe space to grow, develop and learn. And They've failed at that tremendously because of the lack of regulation.", "Awesome work, I watched the whole thing because I have 3 young kids who play, and I wanted to know what I was up against.", "Yeah...except no. The article uses Nazi and fascism, even in the title. Let’s not normalize fascist language, like ‘national socialism’ to confuse, it’s a big deal.\nNow you know too, glad to help.", "so just classic predatory since kids that young have not seen those tactics before. i never got into farmville because 4 years before, i had gotten into a free webgame that used those same tactics. i played it a lot for 4 months and then got sick of spending so much time on it. \n\nso then farmville came out. i heard about the things it did to get you to play and engage more, and just stayed the fuck away because i was already sick of that shit. \n\nbut these kids are young enough they haven't seen any of it yet. and they're all over it :(.", "My kids play it as well, and I'll sometimes play with them. I decided to download Roblox Studio to see if I can maybe make something for them. It's not as easy to make a game as you think. Sure, any kid can go it and make walls and color the skybox, but I don't expect my 7 year old can easily pick up Lua and program doors and script a UI. Me spending about 10 hours to learn the fundamentals, and 20-ish hours creating stuff, I didn't get a whole lot done in that time. A lot of the popular games are made by teams of people, and consistently updated and maintained.", "god you could not sound more like a redditor if you tried, holy fuck", "I'd counter that the majority of the people in the US do not know that national socialists aren't socialists.", "You can learn Unity or Unreal an hour at a time. It doesn't have to be a full-time job.", "Previous comment:\n\n>This is a fair point, I didn't see it like this. I don't really know what steps Roblox could take to protect minors from these off-site communities, besides education and warnings.\n\nMy reply:\n\nIf you ask me, I see the whole off-site thing as pretty insidious. It's not just a \"can't do anything about it,\" it's a \"we won't do anything about it.\" As in, a complete unwillingness and refusal to moderate the spaces that are generated around its game by: (1) refusing to host its own spaces, (2) forcing users to go off-site, then (3) feigning helplessness when anything goes wrong. As for off-site spaces that are inevitably generated around any game - companies are not omnipotent to control absolutely everything and anything that goes on around their game, but they can at least try.\n\nRoblox is refusing to try. And it's trying to stop people from knowing it's refusing to try. The evidence is found via their actions in the systems design, their nonactions in the stories other users have mentioned, and the entire context of this follow-up video (i.e., the attempt to take down the original expose).\n\nIt seems the original user has seen the point of this whole debacle, so I'm omitting the username. I'm glad he kept his mind open in the end.", "He said Jan 23 35 puts not 22, so its 13 months of 30 billion dollars to disappear. \n\nI've seen crazier things happen in the stock market.", "I was really frustrated by this on the video too (and I really love these guys from Shut up and Sit down). They're railing on a platform about things that aren't occurring on the platform. It would be like if Activision made a game on Roblox and people were holding Roblox to blame for the issues at Activision rather than holding Activision responsible.\n\nAlso the monetization in the first part was also weird to me. A group of developers incorporated and forced out the kid that they interviewed. Roblox has no part in this. While it is shameful on the part of those people to do this, Roblox isn't party to people collaborating together or their decisions to turn into a company.\n\nHonestly, I understand why Roblox put out the statement they did rather than address those specific questions. Because they would have been slaughtered for giving the real answer of \"How are we supposed to police third parties?\".", "Nazi means \"National Socialism\" you twit. It's literally where the word \"Nazi\" came from. \n \nEdit: To all you rabid jagoffs frothing at the mouth and acting like I'm some sort of Nazi apologist, [make sure you know what you're talking about before attacking someone] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party)", "I have a 3 year old. You make the time. If it's important to them, then you figure out a way to do it.", "Not wanting to do business with a company for moral reasons and feeling convinced that company will fail/pull back are two totally different things. Not too many people out there have the kind of money required to vote their conscience in the stock market, especially with short positions.", "Never heard of Barbra Streisand, so I just looked her up. If you were trying to get me to not look up Barbra Streisand, you failed. I just watched a documentary on her, and now I know that she is a singer who is on a quest to rule the universe with a special triangle. I hope Robert Smith can catch her in time!", "Yeh there's a lot of moral panic in that summary.", "\"How Roblox Became a Playground for Virtual Fascists\n\nThousands of players flocked to a digital world filled with draconian rules, slavery, and anti-Semitism—and tested how far “just a game” can go.\"\n\n???", "Steam isn't a publicly traded company, RBLX is.", "Thanks for doing this! Had no idea this is what's going on with Roblox and great to have this exposure esp when our kids are interacting with this daily", "National Socialism isn't a euphemism, it's literally the name of the ideology. Nazism is just the shortened form.", "It would be incredibly shortsighted to bet against a stock just because you don’t approve of a company’s practices. \n\nUnless there’s a massive public uproar indicating that the stock may tank, that would be a very dumb way to protest.", "Nazi literally means National Socialism. Now you know, glad to help.", "...and why did they call themselves that? To euphemism and confuse. There is a reason we all call them fascists and the neo-Nazis still refer to themselves as ‘National Socialists. Stop carrying water for them.", ">glad to help \n\nFuck you lol.", "So it is time to short RBLX and then shitpost on Reddit to worsen their image! ^/s", "Thanks for this perspective. I'm a parent of 3 young kids who play Roblox, and I've always been on the fence about it. I love the STEM aspect, and my 10yo is starting to experiment with building games. But I don't like how many games seem to be mindless timesinks or p2w, and the risk of my kids running into predators. I'm definitely not letting them onto Discord until at least 13.", "> it provides tools for children to make games for other children while allowing them to make money, was essentially mostly just an engine for Roblox to make money while crushing children's dreams with false opportunity.\n\nThis sounds like Second Life but aimed at exploiting children.", "I emailed this video to one of my national news stations. I encourage everyone who watches this to do the same. Companies don't care untill their profits and stocks prices are on the line. And that doesn't happen if it doesn't become news worthy.", "While it's on the extreme side of the spectrum, the fact that child sexual predation is a part of the equation here makes your statement wildly insane.", "Go LARP with your other revolutionary neckbeards in your communist clubhouse. We care about being factual not whatever bullshit baggage you are trying to start.", "Roblox refused to help me get items that were hacked from my account, worth over $5000 USD, even after they banned the hacker who stole the items from me. They are a shady organization only concerned with maximizing profit", "I can remember back when Roblox IPO at the beginning of this year. There was a lot of buzz because it was a new gaming studio and it was one that was popular. I didn't really see the point of investing in a company that only makes one game, after all why invest in just Roblox.\n\nIt's when I found out what Roblox actually was that I decided it wasn't an investable company. It turned out it was more of a software for developing games for children... by children. And that Roblox was making most of its money by sales of items between children. I can think to my childhood of having a Wayne Gretzky hockey card and having a trading shop buy it for $5 (a $100 card) to realize that there's so much opportunity for swindling to happen and so many potential problems with exploitation.\n\nI raised these concerns on /r/stocks on the IPO day and was.... downvoted into the ground. Unfortunately the vast number of people who bought this stock on IPO day did not want any potential negative news to come out before they sold it for a profit. Today the game is up 70%. You would have almost doubled your money holding it for almost a year.\n\nI think for Roblox corporate they're in a bit of a bind here. If they were to actually take action it would result in news stories about the scandal and the action and it would just eye in on that there are broad problems with platforms that allow children to earn and spend real world money.\n\nThe same people who downvote me on /r/stocks are now the shareholders of this company and they don't want the company to take actions that will highlight any problems with the company. Best to just do nothing rather than get a negative story about it. I doubt ROBLOX corporate will do anything about it until their share price begins trailing below $70/share.", "Forums are very different now than they were in the early days. In the era of newgrounds, flash, funnyjunk, etc. Forums were what discord is now. Some of these style of sites are still around but not very many. \n\nThe biggest difference is that the old forums sometimes had discussions that only received input a few times a year but they were still visible and accessible unlike discord. \n\nTo be clear I think sites like reddit killed forums before discord came along.", "To be completely fair, the word employment can be read rather literally in my sentence, so I don't think your point is automatically invalid. However, I do still think that the incentive system in play is coercive: \n children aren't great at figuring out whether coding for Roblox is an optimal use of their time, and they're much more likely to be reward-motivated than adults. Since they're exchanging their time and effort for perceived value, I think it's perfectly valid to characterize the relationship as a form of employment, even if it is (as you so correctly point out) one that lacks typical wages, performance standards, or consequences thereof.\n\n That said it absolutely does have benefits (at least ones perceived by children, rather than by adults), as I mentioned above. I'm also unsure why the opt-in nature is relevant, since all employment is technically opt-in. No one is forced to look for a job - if you're independently wealthy you don't have to work a day in your life, after all. Finally, I'm unconvinced that any work should be excused for being exploitative or abusive just because it's educational or not labour-intensive - that's tantamount to saying interns aren't doing \"real work\".\n\nHope that makes more sense than my initial comment.", "♫Rah-bert Smeeeth, Rah-bert Smeeeth♫", "i dont get how gaming companies dont realize how little difference this verification method makes to the end user. whatever happened to receipts and serial/order numbers.", "Anybody wanna post a TL;DR, please", "Mario Maker is pretty different because you cant monetize games and its pretty limited.", "Is there any place still that is safe and protected and would allow us to bring kids into this world, or is it all just rotten?\n\nfuck.", "No really, I am glad to help. Didn’t know so many people were doing the fascists work for them. You literally have politicians in the US screeching about ‘Socialist Nazis’ because they took an inaccurate name at face value. Call it what it is, not what they want you to call it.", "Wrong on multiple levels", "Are they publicly traded companies too?", "So what your saying is...we can have a clubhouse?", "You are also a software developer. You can't expect a mother or father with non tech jobs to \"sit down and learn Unreal Engine or Unity with them\". Encourage and support it, of course but expecting the parents to also learn it is just not realistic.", "Everyone here is an asshole.\n\nThe platform itself is bad, for the classic reason - it's not profitable enough to moderate adequately, so they just don't moderate their platform.\n\nEveryone developing for the platform hopes to take money from literal children through microtransactions. \n\nUnsurprisingly, these people are also keen to rip one another off.\n\nEven more unsurprisingly, because Roblox is both participating in ripping their developers off and a terrible arbiter, developers and users have resorted to vigilante harassment of one another.\n\ntl;dw - don't let your kids play roblox", "Yeah people think any form of socialism is bad, but ignore public schools, police, fire rescue, EMT, scholarships and grants, government bailout and the like.", ">It would be incredibly shortsighted to bet against a stock just because you don’t approve of a company’s practices.\n\nIn the same way that buying their stock because you like gaming companies is also shortsighted.", "I found it really interesting that Toontown Online from Disney has been resurrected and is run completely by the players that used to play, I don't believe there's a legal loophole or anything, just Disney doesn't send them a cease and desist.", "Subway \"suspected\" Jared was a pedophile and they kept sending him nationwide to schools.", "Get some vitamin D and touch grass before you're deprived of it even more in the Winter and spiral further.", "Steve Bannon basically got started with GamerGate, he saw how easy it was to exploit white males into false outrage.", "> No one is forced to look for a job\n\nI think that kind of reasoning is what contributes to the homelessness crisis. /r/technicallythetruth material, but not actually true except in the rare \"independently wealthy\" situation, the majority(barely?) of which themselves were earned themselves. People who want to eat and and have a place to live almost always have to work. Or I guess people who have someone else provide for them for their entire life, I do know a rare few people like that.\n\n> children aren't great at figuring out whether coding for Roblox is an optimal use of their time, and they're much more likely to be reward-motivated than adults.\n\nJust taking that point as true though, within a week they know. Coding or art asset creation is either fun or rewarding, or it isn't. There are no rewards in the first week, basically ever. And while I'd say it is again /r/technicallythetruth that children are (can be?) more reward motivated, they definitely are generally not long term reward motivated / delayed gratification driven.\n\nGiven the above I'm not sure if your position is that Roblox shouldn't offer any rewards for doing development? I can't see how that is an improvement in any way.\n\n> Finally, I'm unconvinced that any work should be excused for being exploitative or abusive just because it's educational or not labour-intensive\n\nHeh, electricians apprentices would LOVE you. If they were allowed to put down the broom and vacuum for long enough to talk, anyway. Still one of the most rewarding apprenticeships to land, despite low pay, and is legally required for all electricians basically anywhere. I'm not saying I disagree with the basic idea of what you're saying, it just feels like we're just searching for something to be upset about at that point.\n\nI do appreciate your polite and thoughtful reply, thank you.", "he's not wrong and tbh it's pretty odd that you're insistent on using \"National Socialism\" when it appears exactly zero times in the article. You're not one of those guys that thinks Nazis were socialists, are you? Because that would definitely sound like a redditor", "As a former Mod developper for Half-Life, which made me eventually become a game dev later in life, its saddening to see this kind of abuse...", "Towards the end of the video: it sounds like there are a number of black market sites that let you DevEx Robux whether you are officially allowed to or not. And while you can't blame Roblox for those sites being created, their inaction against such sites is tacit appoval. The fact that the black market sites help increase the value of Robux and thus feeds back into their pockets means they cna be blamed for the ongoing issue.", "... because they like gaming companies, and also expect a very successful company will continue to be successful. They aren't just investing because they like the company.", "You can't through the Roblox site, but you can through the black market sites they cover towards the end of the video. And Roblox turns a blind eye to those sites because they ultimately increase the real-world value of Robux without them having to get their hands dirty legally. It's pretty bad.", ">We care about being factual not whatever bullshit baggage you are trying to start. \n\nI mean if that were true maybe you wouldn't call Nazis the name they chose for themselves to obfuscate their fascism. Also the term does not appear in the article, so maybe he's not the guy with baggage here.", "That wouldn't harm them, it so would just be throwing cash away", "The Nazis co-oped the term socialism, they weren't actually socialist. You don't also think the DPRK are actually democratic, right?", "Except shorting a position is far riskier than taking the long. With long you can only lose the money you put in, but with a short your losses can be theoretically infinite.", "I mean they knew nothing about Roblox lol. It sounds like they purchased it purely because it's in the gaming category.", "What's the tl;Dr can't watch right now", "No one said they were socialist. But the ideology of the Nazis is called 'National Socialism'. Likewise, while the North Korean state is not democratic, it is still called, formally, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.", "Wow I’ve never even heard of Roblox, and it’s bigger than Nintendo?!", "Are you also gullible enough to think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is also a democracy?", "I’m aware, I think you missed my point. Everyone knows what a Nazi is, but you may be surprised how many people are fooled by the ‘national socialist’ label. Fascism is the more accurate term, IMO. Nazism being a subtype, despite what they called themselves. Since the article also involved fascist Rome especially.\nJust seemed odd that the original poster seemed to go out of their way to not use the common accepted terms that were used in the article. This is a pretty common right wing ploy to demonize socialists. Language matters. I am not suggesting that was the original poster’s intent, but I thought they might like to know. Apparently not.", "What the fuck...", "Yeah. Like, an hour or two a day with your kid is unreasonable and impossible? Sad.", ">Seems really, really pedantic when there's a far far bigger issue at play. \n\nlol you think he's being pedantic?", "You're right, if you as a parent are new to computers or tech in general than this might be more of a learning curve than it is for your kid. And i might be completely biased in thinking it could be a fun challenge for you both. I'd just love to see parents actually exploring their kids interests by joining them. Like how [Terry Crews builds a PC with his kid although not knowing anything about how to build a PC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDZNXRAtXs0)", "What are you saying? That it's somehow unreasonable to expect a parent with a full time job and no coding experience to learn C++, 3D modeling and animation just to engage with their child in a hobby the child will very likely abandon for being hard and boring?", "There's also a whole other problem with Roblox and that is some of the totally F'd up worlds that people create to essentially be recruitment sites for extremist groups. [Wired did a nice article about it recently](https://www.wired.com/story/roblox-online-games-irl-fascism-roman-empire/).", "Cheers! I'll have a look :)", "Some important questions for you...\n1. Where is this clubhouse located?\n2. Membership requirements?\n3. Would you like to join?", "And thats how your nephew ends up supporting people like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. \n\nThats a fucking Nazi sim, not a military sim. And your sister is an idiot if you nephew has unrestricted access to Discord.", "I just don't see how it's the roblox companies fault? \nYou don't expect valve to police game studios for employee misconduct.\n\nI think the real discussion is simply a lot of young kids are now able to work online. What does that mean for our society moving forward and should there be more regulation.", "Are you trolling? You need to take some courses on politics my dude, National Socialists and Fascists are two different things, he's not trying to excuse anything or carry water for anyone, you're just doubling down on your ignorance.", "> No one is forced to look for a job\n\nCompletely agree with you on this. I just used this take to point out that children doing stuff for reward isn't well-modeled by a sustenance employment economy, but I feel like you understand that well enough. Sorry to belabour the point\n\n> they definitely are generally not long term reward motivated / delayed gratification driven.\n\nThis is a really important point that I failed to account for, and it definitely reduces my confidence in my hypothesis. However, I still do feel it's dangerous and coercive to expose kids to an unregulated \"work\" environment for what is essentially non-realistic gain in value. I guess my position is that Roblox should take ownership of the fact that their monetization of their userbase opens up a lot of potential for abuse, and that they should ideally regulate this sort of \"work-for-Robux\" stuff themselves, rather than letting kids work with other, unsupervised, unvetted adults. Higher liability for them, of course, but worth it for the safety of children - or so I feel.\n\n> Heh, electricians apprentices would LOVE you.\n\nMakes sense, I am a PhD student. Exploitative/Abusive/Labour-intensive/Educational/Underpaid is the name of the game!\n\nAnd thank you, internet stranger, for your careful and gracious response! I was glad for your initial response to my statements, and gladder for your measured rebuttal. We could use more folks like you in politics!", ">when kids are given unlimited unregulated access to the internet\n\nThis is exactly the problem. We seem to be in yet another wave of \"won't somebody please think of the children\" media fearmongering that somehow completely forgets to ask what the fuck the parents of these kids are doing.\n\nI'm not asking the parents to learn to code and teach their kids gamedev, but literally just talk to your kids and monitor their internet usage. Apply any one of the many kid-friendly web blockers to their machines or accounts on a home computer. Don't just do nothing then get shocked when it turns out your kids are doing shit you don't approve of.", "The larger problem is the second point he makes about how roblox pays and what users have done to exploit that. A game gets successful so the main creators form a company and are now paying other contributing users (children) a wage or salary to contribute and in many cases cutting the amount they normally would have made. It's illegal and now non-taxed wages paid to a child with no agency.", "It's like saying if your kid is interested in music you should learn some piano and music theory to support them.\n\n\nNothing against parent involvement in helping a child learn, but nobody would hold it against the parent of a kid learning an instrument if the parent themselves knew fuck all about music.", "But if Roblox turns a blind eye to the black markets then it's essentially the same as endorsing them.", "For real, I also had no idea how enormous the company was. At some point in the future, I hope parents will start to take more notice of what their kids are doing on the Internet. There is this fundamental issue that the whole realm of children's entertainment is so separate from the lives of adults that these industries like roblox and profoundly disturbing videos on youtube/tiktok can be big business without us having any idea about it.", "The video won't effect stock at all. Lol.", ">How the fuck is roblox bigger than nintendo\n\nYah. This fuckin blew me away", "This is just my opinion, but perhaps it's because roblox is actively marketed towards young children, whereas the most popular items on the steam marketplace are for games that are rated M and not supposed to be played by kids.", "If I was a kid I would 100% agree because all the media available on the internet now would've taught me how to be a little shit and exploit all of this. Nobody wants their cash cow taken away", "Le Pedant, c’est voila!", "How long would it realistically take to learn a 3D game engine with only an hour a day though?", "Whether I think national socialists are socialist or not is besides the point. The name of the ideology is national socialism. Calling them Nazis wouldn't change that since Nazi is just an abbreviation for Nationalsozialismus. Meanwhile calling them fascist technically wouldn't be incorrect, just I feel like it's not a specific enough term to describe them.", "It gets even worse. I haven't been letting my 7 year old daughter play, and because of that she gets bullied and harassed for not playing it by other kids! I try to tell other parents but they just don't get it.\nLuckily my daughter understands why, and tries to tell other kids also.", "Many, maybe most people, don’t immediately connect the words national socialism with Nazism. As a mild pedant but strong anti-Nazi, I think it’s fair to ask you to just say Nazi when you mean Nazi. They are mainstreaming everywhere and you were sucked in. Glad you got out. \n\nWhen you say far far bigger do you mean child welfare on roblox? Or the terrifying formula this presents for a company like meta? Not trying to be inflammatory, I’m really curious because I’m extremely concerned about Christian and far right nationalism and have a relative who was sucked in via YouTube.", "I contacted every representative I have even though it will likely amount to nothing. Only other thing I can see to do is spread the word and refuse to give them money (not that I ever have before) until and unless they remedy the situation.", "didn't say anything about time, just talking about spending time with your kid figuring stuff out as you go. You know, just like any other activity.", "I got it for my eldest but removed it after just a couple hours of playing. It failed every initial whiff test, horrifically. In 25+ years of online play, and 30+ online, I've learned to recognize most of the shady ways people try to screw you and within just a couple of hours recognized so many that I just pulled the fucking plug on the whole thing. It was like a horror show of dubious methods to manipulate and exploit kids for fun and/or profit. Nope nope nope nope nope. \n\nSad thing is it's marketed as being safe and nurturing of creativity, like Lego etc., but it's absolutely nothing like that (at all) and most parent's aren't going to recognize the uncaring meat grinder they just tossed their kids into.", "If you like board games, the main guy from this channel is also a big part of Shut Up and Sit Down, one of my favorite board game review channels.", "yea no nevermind give them roblox instead\n\n\\-Edit \nBy the way, you can totally create something basic with just free models, blueprints and the rest that you'll need to create something fun. It doesn't need to be a full fucking AAA game.", "Oh goodness another guy looking to start what the other nutter is doing. You call American Republicans fascists, you have the credibility of a turnip. You have all the baggage the other neckbeard has and more.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/qpeo2g/a_year_ago_today_joe_biden_beat_trump_to_be/hjtphhk/", "So you meant a live orchestra??", "What a fucking trip it is to see Charlies name here", "This sounds like the old \"video games cause violence\" evangelical speak", "The world has never been safe and protected, that's why children need supportive and loving parents that are involved enough in their lives and pay attention to what they are doing.", "Holy shit I knew Roblox was big, but not bigger than Nintendo big", "Believe it or not, there are a few national chains of baseball training places and soccer clubs that have been public in the past. Not sure for how long or successful, but it has been done before.", "There are pedophile communities in any community that has children \n\n\nDiscord, rec room, roblox, club penguin \n\n\nDiscord REALLY doesn't want you to know about it's rampant CP sharing problem and the fact that users use \"moderation\" status' to loom over childrens' heads and use it to get what they want from them.", "That's wrong. You are clearly a victim of ape misinformation.\n\n\\>When you buy a put, you have to pay a premium to the put seller. The premium you pay is the most you could lose from the transaction. If you don’t exercise the option, you’ll lose the premium and earn no money.\n\nhttps://www.thebalance.com/how-to-bet-against-the-stock-market-5195007", "Which is why we call them North Korea, not the DPRK because we know that's a lie. Same way we call them Nazis, not National Socialist because that's also a lie.", "This video is very informative and incredibly well researched. They're absolutely right that all these thing are huge issues.\n\nHowever everyone has already talked about all of that. Tbh idk how many people will even see this lol. \n\nBut either way it's important, this is incredibly biased reporting. Like Fox or CNN level bad. It's insane. \n\nA good reporter gives the audience the evidence and let's them come too their own conclusions. This video gives you the conclusion (repeatedly) and then shows you the evidence. On top of that they don't show all of the evidence and instead break it up and spread it out in bullet points/short quotes which could easily be taken out of context.\n\nDon't get me wrong, they're absolutely right about Roblox, however this kind of reporting is also a big problem in an entire industry. It's this kind of reporting that made me stop watching news channels completely.", "Gonna watch this later. My kids play this game and if they’re up to shady shit I can finally use this as ammo to delete the game", "Was there ever a place that was truly safe for kids?", "To put my perspective on the issue.\n\nI don't think Roblox has ever been safe, it's been filled with teenagers and young adults since inception, I've been on the platform since 2010 and still am on it as a 21 year old, the largest reason for this outside of the game development side is that the group system allows you to basically roleplay nations/factions in historical time periods/popular movie/series/book universes to your own liking, something that is only really possible in games like GMOD with far less robust developer tools, playerbases and sever capacity.\n\nRoblox and ODing has been a mess since the very start, I don't know how we can regulate it but it's not very inherent to Roblox.\n\nPretty much every young teenager has Discord now and they share the same spaces as older teenagers and adults and a lot of communities they share like Genshin Impact (which is as popular if not more popular than Roblox) suffer the same issues - I really don't know where society should go with it but the first lockdown made things so much worse and it's when Discord completely exploded in size - everyone from my own irl coworkers gaming at night after working from home to teens chilling with classmates moved to it and when games and associated Discords have such age ranges it gets all wonky.\n\nI do think Roblox needs to address developer mistreatment as their system for game ownership and how you share income fairly and ensure salaries/payment is completely non-existant, the entire system is pretty much self moderated by people being known scammers/scumbags which just doesn't help much.\n\nThe limited edition/collectable items and such work the same way skins in other games do, this is not unique to Roblox at all either, neither is there being a black market - I really don't think this is problematic, parents need to self moderate how much of their own money kids spend online and how they spend it.", "Yep, don't step into the market with your morals. The market doesn't give a flying fuck about morality. The market cares about money.", "Adults role play in video games standing at attention for hours too. Not really an age specific crowd for online role playing", "If you let your children be more tech savvy than you, you really are a fucking idiot", "Unless you buy puts. Puts you can only lose the premium you pay to get in.", "Hey! As someone that's been on Roblox for ages I put up a comment detailing my views on it (and wider issues of the internet and kids) in view. Not sure if you're interested in reading any of it but if you are:\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/roblox_pressured_us_to_delete_our_video_so_we_dug/hoev6v8/", "hour a day ? 2 weeks and you can do some really fun stuff as you have a bunch of template files to work with", "I just left /r/stocks, but can't get away it seems...", "Exactly. I played a bunch with a young mentee of mine. While the most innocuous games are crappy clones of whatever is trendy that month with some thickly layered pay to win mechanics they can get much worse. Most of the super popular ones are immensely boring cow clickers (again with pay to win).\n\nI always feared what it was teaching kids about reasonable and good game mechanics but this PMG series really opened my eyes to just how rotten the entire company is. I'll be forwarding them to my mentee's parents for sure.", "...did you not read my comment? I obviously know that. But what they they called themselves doesn't match what they actually were. Just like the DPRK or the Liberal Party of Australia. You're either trying to show everyone how smart you are by telling them the root of the word Nazi, or trying to perpetuate their lie. Which is it?", "I'm not carrying water for them. There were nationalistic socialists and fascists. It's not fucking complicated.", ">\tBut, as it stands, Roblox is actively exploiting the work of children to make money...\n\nHow? Back in the day, we used to make game modes and maps with Halo 3. I think it was called Forge? Can’t remember, it was ages ago. \n\nEither way, same logic; Bungie used kids to make games and maps which was a selling point of their product. The only difference is we didn’t get paid to have fun. \n\nI don’t see anything wrong with it. Props to RBLX for actually supporting the creators and giving drive to kids to create.", "Having followed SU&SD from quite early on, I must say I love your story arc, going from finder of games that deserve some more attention, to supporter of people who make games to becoming a defender against games gone awry!", "Puts are one way to short but not the only way", "Puts are not the same thing as shorting a stock. You're talking options, he is talking stocks.", "Brilliant response.", "Did you reply to the wrong person? I said nothing about collectibles.", "I did it a few years ago. Granted, I'm rusty now because I didn't keep up with it, but it's absolutely possible to learn with a limited amount of time.", "When people realize that blockchain based games are decentralized and not subject to the whims of a giant company, the exodus will be epic.", "I probably don’t have the time to go down that rabbit hole? What’s the high level summary?", "More proof that any entity making billions is doing so by exploiting some large group of people.", "I don't think the general public takes ~~this topic~~ anything anywhere near as serious as they should.", "It only puts pressure on the price if market makers want the price to fall. If not, you’re burning money.", "The name of the party is National Socialist, the name of the ideology is facism. It's exactly like the Liberal Party of Australia, they're called the \"Liberal Party\", but their ideology is Conservatism. Stop trying to mislead people into thinking Nazism = Socialism, that's the exact lie they were trying to perpetuate.", "Basically, a company, Roblox, is exploiting children to make exorbitant amounts of money.", "> How the fuck is roblox bigger than nintendo\n\nMore proof that the best way to amass wealth is to exploit the labor of a large group of people.\n\nRoblox just figured out the formula to harness and exploit the labor of children.", "> They're railing on a platform about things that aren't occurring on the platform.\n\nBecause Roblox shut down their own forum for legal liability reasons. Now they no longer have to spend resources policing their own forums for abuse and predators, and can hand-wave away any concerns by saying what happens off their platform is not their responsibility. I'm not sure what Roblox Groups are all about, but from the comments in the video it looks like they're nothing like the forums of old. \n\nThe point of this video is that if you create a product marketed almost entirely to children and then encourage children to create games (not gonna call them \"experiences\") on the premise of making bank, you should also be stewarding that user base and providing supports. Obviously this is too messy for Roblox to deal with, but at this point they're worth billions of dollars and the train they're on is travelling way too fast to hop off, so all they can do is reduce their legal liability and hope that they can fly under the radar.", "Boi, this tea is superb", "I'm not being pedantic, you're simple equating words and being self righteous over how they mean the same thing when they're simple not.\n\nJust because you feel attacked since National Socialism contains the word \"socialism\" doesn't mean it's the same thing as Fascism.\n\nHitler literally put into writing his reasoning behind the naming of the movement, it was to disarm the word and use it against actual Socialists which were his main political opponent of the German conservative party and NSDAP at the time.\n\nNational Socialism has an inherent race aspect that Fascism does not have alongside a few other differences, you can look at the policy and political theory differences between Fascist Italy and National Socialist Germany (which were where these movements originally started, with National Socialism being inspired by Fascism).", "the internet has never been safe. Why do people assume that it is or ever was?", "There is a stark difference between shooting imaginary video game characters and being indoctrinated by other players. The biggest problem in Roblox is how people can manipulate, exploit, scam and harass children.", "Yeah nah that's definitely illegal and I'd bet it's more likely they just fly under the mouse's radar. ToonTown was the shit though. I'd let my son play that game, I remember it being frustratingly safe.", "Whataboutism, and besides, Minecraft doesn't provide ways to convert in-game items to hard dollars that I'm aware of", "Same amount of time it takes to learn any other skill, I'd imagine. If learn.unity.com is any indicator, they show the fundamentals would take 2 weeks, 12 weeks to be \"entry-level\", and a further 10 weeks to further expand your capabilities. Doesn't seem too bad.", "Jesus Christ, all I said is that \"Nazi\" is a portmanteu. What the hell is wrong with you people?", "Him buying or trading them also doesn't support them", ">\tThe 25-point Program of the NSDAP\n-\tWe demand the union of all Germans to form the Greater Germany on the basis of the people's right to self-determination enjoyed by the nations.\n-\tWe demand equality of rights for the German people in its dealings with other nations; and abolition of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.\n-\tWe demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people and colonization for our superfluous population.\n-\tNone but members of the nation may be citizens of the state. None but those of German blood, whatever their creed may be. No Jew, therefore, may be a member of the nation.\n-\tWhoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be regarded as being subject to foreign laws.\n-\tThe right of voting on the state's government and legislation is to be enjoyed by the citizen of the state alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, shall be granted to citizens of the state alone. We oppose the corrupting custom of parliament of filling posts merely with a view to party considerations, and without reference to character or capability.\n-\tWe demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to nourish the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) must be excluded from the Reich.\n-\tAll immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be required immediately to leave the Reich.\n-\tAll citizens of the state shall be equal as regards rights and obligations.\n-\tThe first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the framework of the whole for the benefit for the general good. We demand therefore:\n-\tAbolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.\n-\tIn consideration of the monstrous sacrifice of life and property that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. Therefore, we demand ruthless confiscation of all war profits.\n-\tWe demand nationalization of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (trusts).\n-\tWe demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.\n-\tWe demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.\n-\tWe demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.\n-\tWe demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.\n-\tWe demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.\n-\tWe demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.\n-\tThe state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the state must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.\n-\tThe state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.\n-\tWe demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.\n-\tWe demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:\na. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race;\nb. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the state to be published. They may not be printed in the German language;\nc. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications or any influence on them and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.\n-\tWe demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework.\nTHE COMMON INTEREST OVER INDIVIDUAL INTEREST[13]\n-\tFor the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.\n\nIdk seems pretty nationalist and socialist", "what do you think Nazi is an abbreviation of?", "Oh, so you were whipped into a legitimate frenzy by a decrepit, alcoholic, poopsocker, then.\n\nThanks for the clarification.", "I just looked for the game cuz my wife wanted to gather a horde of moms to go grief the pedo, it looks like it got taken down", "Pretty sure it is in fact one form of short selling. Not mentioning puts is dishonest, he's basically saying there's not a safe way to capitalize on the decline of a stock which isn't true.", "guess where you are, buddy", "You work in IT. You must have met a non-tech-savvy person before. Even with basic resources, you're still expecting more tech knowledge than they are likely to have.\n\nAlso, you're really comparing apples to oranges, because what roblox is selling isn't so much the game creation tools as the MMO bit. Kids like games like roblox and minecraft because most of the hard work of making a game has already been done for them, and they can concentrate on fun, easily understood stuff like map-building, coming up with rules for social games etc, and then share that with all their friends without having to program multiplayer in.\n\nThe solution isn't just \"lol learn to code\", it's parents taking some damned responsibility, talking to their kids, and making sure that they aren't getting drawn into creepy bullshit in the first place. That's a lot easier and a lot more effective than that parent taking up programming.", "> Roblox's market goes mostly to collaborative efforts, encouraging developers to work in larger teams to increase production values\n\nThis isn't really roblox's fault, more a fact of reality.", "I had no idea Quinns had other projects besides SU&SD. Very cool.", "Roblox is super easy to play with your kid, it runs on a potato Android. The world has never been safe, watch your damn kids", "> Whataboutism\n\nSecond time today I've seen this word used incorrectly. Did all the dumb people learn a new word, recently?\n\n> Minecraft doesn't provide ways to convert in-game items to hard dollars that I'm aware of\n\nAh, so only if there's literally no way for you to get paid are you an exploited worker. Brilliant logic.", "Don't you know? It was about ethics in games journalism, and definitely not a bunch of dorks mad that women exist.\n\n/s", "> Because Roblox shut down their own forum for legal liability reasons. Now they no longer have to spend resources policing their own forums for abuse and predators, and can hand-wave away any concerns by saying what happens off their platform is not their responsibility.\n\nIf they had an official forum they could still \"hand-wave away any concerns by saying what happens off their platform is not their responsibility\". Because it isn't Whether they have an online forum or not, if someone is on discord and is making deals there, Roblux isn't responsible. \n\n>The point of this video is that if you create a product marketed almost entirely to children and then encourage children to create games (not gonna call them \"experiences\") on the premise of making bank, you should also be stewarding that user base and providing supports.\n\nNo. This is an entirely unrealistic expectation. It cannot be the responsibility of Roblox to police employment policies of companies or people who develop games. Again I would hark back to the Activision example. If Activision made and published a game on Roblox, are you suggesting that Roblox should be responsible for their sexual harassment issues and not Activision? Of course not. And to cover the whole thing by screaming \"Won't someone please think of the children\" is absurd. As a parent, if I found out my 12 year old was doing dev work on a game for someone else, I'd be 100% involved in watching what they're doing and spending time to make sure that it was both above board and good for them. It is not Roblox's place to parent my child.", "Video game communities are 100% being used as part of the far right extremist recruitment pipeline. Given the demographics, it’s prime hunting ground. You also see it in big meme groups, content that parrots milder far right rhetoric and just becomes normalized to the users.\n\nIt’s all over the internet and places that have poor moderation are a hot bed of it. It starts out mild, fun, innocent even. But it slowly pushes people deeper. Here's a video (admittedly long) done by someone who knows more then I do. But basically they expand and what I've said. https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g\n\nYou can also go to communites like r/stonetossingjuice, they're very familiar with this crap.", "This is straight from /r/wallstreetbets", "You're right, the outrage from sweatlords that females exist was very real, thanks for the clarification. Go collect your bannonbux", "I can't believe the ignorance on display here after some people spent YEARS of their life absolutely frothing mad about video game articles, and definitely nothing else at all.", "I know what it's an abbreviation of, while it's technically correct to call them National Socialist, they were not socialists so using that to claim their ideology was also socialist is wrong, and the exact lie they were trying to perpetuate.", "As a parent I 100% agree, it's ridiculous how much some parents let their kids use shit they don't even know how to use themselves. If I don't know I learn, simple as that", "As a parent, I will never associate a credit card or payment method with my kids accounts. They will never buy any roblux for any reason, they only get free assets.", "People call it the dprk all the time", "They named themselves national socialists to further confuse political discourse and steal unwitting voters from the actual german socialist parties of the time period\n\nIt is quite literally propaganda", "Literally the same thing with my son. We took it off his iPad bc he kept playing pokemon ripoffs that never saved his game. So he'd start them over and over again and just would get frustrated and upset. I was like nah, this isn't worth it.", "Because the market is gambling too. They prefer fast growth over anything else, over actual profitability. Dividend don’t pay much, they want to buy shares that will sell 10x in 5 years.", "It's definitely not the most common name for them in the west.", "You can keep saying people are ignorant until you're red in the face, which I imagine is becoming closer and closer to occurring, but until you actually defend yourself with something substantial we're just going to all keep hysterically laughing at you.\n\nRemember, YOU outed yourself as a Gamergater like lmaooo", "Lmao like anyone on Reddit has the capital to take a short position on a billion dollar evaluated company.", "A 13 yo aquaintance has been indoctrinated trough a roblox server by a group of nazis. He now has a 10cm thick record and he’s being looked into by the fbi for allegedly creating a recruitment group on telegram. The leaders of the group are in prison and he is very very lucky he’s not 14 because he would’ve ended up in juvie", "Alternatively I can give you my paypal address and I'll use the money to survive", "I'd say something like GameMaker Studio, or BYOND if they want to make multiplayer games, is a way better way for kids to spend their time", "But you do have to say it like Churchill. \n\nNah-zee's", ". Just commenting to come back and watch later", ">They're railing on a platform about things that aren't occurring on the platform.\n\nDid we watch the same video? Because one of the key points seemed to be that Roblox is doing jack shit to try to keep user activity on the official platform, as exemplified by them not acknowledging 3rd party trading sites when asked about them, or the fact that the shut down official forums for unclear reasons.", "Whenever something turns too big it turns evil...just the way it is with everything in life.", "nobody even knows what you're talking about you fucking dork", "Yes, and because of all this it has a net worth over 10x larger than the Lego company.", "Oh no? Who would do such a thing?", "Does Dreams pay the game makers better than Roblox does?", "Lots of things, to the point where I would need specifics on the type of game to make a recommendation", "lol you go through my comment history and this is the gotcha comment you're going to throw at me? I mean fuck, I'll say it again: if you don't see the fascist overtones of the modern GOP then you really haven't got a clue", "Why do you spam the laughing crying emoji?", "Something something, forest for the trees.\nIn your desire to sound knowledgeable and specific you’ve missed the point.\nI shouldn’t be bothered by a term Hitler took and “use[d] it against actual Socialists”? \nIf it’s all the same to you, that will continue to bother me. Especially as it is still being used in this way today.\nThank you for making my point for me. Language matters.", "What makes you think you'd need a lot of money for that? And there are plenty of people here who throw good chunks of money around", "Ignorance.", "as far as people are concerned the distinction is irrelevant, a national socialist is a nazi - to be so anal about it is moronic frankly", "I have played the game since 2009 and only a year or two ago I was able to get a game off the ground through hiring and paying a portion of the revenue to other users. I currently make a few hundred usd every 2-3 months. If you would like to reach out for anything in the future send me a PM and we can exchange emails or whatever from there. I am currently 22 and started the game when I was 10", "I just said to take a short position. Being long a put would mean being short the underlying. It's not that hard, really", "Poptropica seemed pretty safe, fun, educational, and wholesome when I played it 13 or so odd years ago", "you recognize that you're the one being pedantic right", "You found a troll who believes in bullshit and revels in pushing people's buttons to feel control in a life they've been told they have no control over because of their bullshit outrage feedback loop. That's about it.", "I'm watching this like \"hey, that guy sounds like a more serious version of that one reviewer from Shut Up & Sit Down... looks at background of video... Oh hey, it's that guy! \"", "What are you on about? National socialism is nazism. It's just the same word. Are we ripping on people for not using the right synonym now? Will nazism finally die if the term 'national socialism' falls out of use?", "My comment, and the comment I wrote my original response to, were not written in regards to the specific labour laws of the United States. While I cannot speak for the OP, my comments target the specific moral dilemma, as previously mentioned. United States labour laws are irrelevant in this context.\n\nI hope that clears up your confusion.", "The denial over media collusion by people who constantly go on about how everyone else in bed together is always amazing.", "Roblox is for kids. Every game is an unpolished turd and most push the stupidest micro transactions.", "Yeah, and it's funny to show them how futile it is in the face of people with actual control in their life.", "A lad who was one of the leaders of its modern politics community was actually arrested for his part in the capitol riots. It's mad how pervasive the culture of far right politics is in it. Honestly, could do a far bigger article than just the Roman group.", "Halo 3 also wasnt filled with predators and micro transactions, lol.", "Most parents need to be involved more with their children. Full stop. Your kid is testing coding ? Go learn some BASIC, and do something fun with your kid. You made a tiny human, your job is literally to sit down and learn, to be able to bootstrap his knowledge and build on it.\n\nUE or Unity are maybe a bit much, but there is plenty of alternative engines, Scratch, Dreams (not sure it's the name) on PS4, redstone on Minecraft... Hell, even Factorio can be really good for coding.", "No, because you don't get paid. You make stuff because you enjoy it, it's not a job, just a gamified creation tool.", "The ideology of the Nazis is called fascism. The name of the organization is not the name of the ideology, and given how \"National Socialism\" is still used today by the right wing to try and confuse people about actual socialism, it's best to avoid it IMO.", "It's language used by everyone. Should we not allow Stalinists to call themselves communists for the same reason? This is an idiotic argument, just because idiots conflate terms does not mean we start equating things that are simply not equivalent.\n\nYou're grasping at straws here my dude, the argument is that someone using the term national socialist should use the term fascist instead which is idiotic, should we erase a vile ideology and the word it was called by because some American 40 year old sees the 2nd term and assumes the ideology is linked to socialism.\n\nLanguage DOES matter as does the history behind it, which is why what you're arguing for is an extreme slippery slope and not one that both society at large or the political theorists and academia subscribes to.", "Correct; I still have no clue why they haven’t done more to stop USDing other than ban random ppl..", "> This is an entirely unrealistic expectation. It cannot be the responsibility of Roblox to police employment policies of companies or people who develop games. Again I would hark back to the Activision example. If Activision made and published a game on Roblox, are you suggesting that Roblox should be responsible for their sexual harassment issues and not Activision? Of course not. And to cover the whole thing by screaming \"Won't someone please think of the children\" is absurd. As a parent, if I found out my 12 year old was doing dev work on a game for someone else, I'd be 100% involved in watching what they're doing and spending time to make sure that it was both above board and good for them. It is not Roblox's place to parent my child.\n\nWhich is why they closed down their forums in the first place, so they no longer have that obligation and responsibility. The whole problem in the first place is that Roblox Inc is encouraging their child users to create games for other children, which enriches Roblox Inc when those users make purchases. See the first video for those problems. I'm saying that if Roblox is being enriched by its practices - which it most definitely is - then it should be providing supports and a safe place for users to congregate in discussion. At least then they can say, if you take your work off-site, we cannot help you, but we encourage you to conduct your business on our forum. The video points out that even when Doc's conduct was brought to light, they banned his user account but not before he transferred all his assets into a shell account, and he remains active in the community and retains monetization of his games. So Roblox still isn't providing the supports they should be providing.\n\nI do think they have a responsibility to police employment policies. It's crazy to even be talking about employment policies when it's 10 year old children creating the games. That alone should be reason for Roblox to take all this very seriously.", "Because shorting a stock takes a massive amount of capital to do so successfully. Why do you think billion dollar capital ventures are basically the only ones doing it? \n\nIf you want to buy puts, that’s one thing and you’ll be dumb to do it because you’ll lose out the moment a shrek candle shows up on the 1m chart. \n\nDon’t like the company, don’t bother buying shares, plenty of other stuff to buy.\n\nedit: oh cute, the bears are downvoting me.", "...why? We're talking about fascists indoctrinating children. He's pretty fucking relevant.", "This is actually incorrect. The ideology is called Nazism. Only Nazis call their ideology \"national socialism\".", "Roblox is officially down after this video blew up.", "> Either way, same logic; Bungie used kids to make games and maps which was a selling point of their product. The only difference is we didn’t get paid to have fun.\n\nKind of like how you can't say Bethesda use mods as a selling point for Skyrim, even though it's de facto the case. They didn't sell the community content, they sold the game with an ability to easily access and share community content.\n\nI'd argue that while the logic is similar, as you pointed out, the difference between the two lies in one where you are incentivized to create for the sake of fun, or through the game's mechanics, and one where you're directly incentivized to make the ip-owner of the game more money through deceptive methods.", "Discord is not at all like a forum. Compare it to IRC or something at least.", "What would you like them to say about third party trading sites? Unless that company is doing something illegal or infringing, Roblox has not standing to force them to cease operations. Look at games that have been trying to shut down third party sites for decades like Blizzard's World of Warcraft or Ultima Online. Third party sites can absolutely exist without their permission.\n\nShutting down forums - a very old and no longer very relevant platform - doesn't mean that any of their other means of communication aren't available nor is it their requirement to keep that platform. I'm not sure why people are so insistent that the company keep a platform like that up anyways. The vast majority of communication happens off platform, especially with the rise of Discord and places where people would naturally congregate to talk about games (like Twitch, Youtube, and Reddit).\n\nMore to the point, the forums aren't where the abuses that the video cited would have even happened. No one was employing people on the forum and then posting things like this publicly. It was still in private locations off the forum. Forums are not a collaboration site.\n\nThis is a trademark \"get your pitchforks\" video, when in reality, the bad guy here isn't the company that doesn't have control in the places you want them to control.\n\nLet's make no mistake here. If Roblox did do what you are suggesting they do, buy a messaging company, buy a slack style clone ala discord, buy a video hosting company, buy a firm to handle developer contracts and so on....You'd be the first person in line to yell \"Break them up, they're a monopoly\" like everyone is doing to Google and Facebook. It's nonsense.", "# A $15,000 DIGITAL FEDORA???", "Cries in ATVI shareholder (bought long before allegations).", "Pretty much the entire tech industry is made of people more tech savvy than their parents. By your statement, all their parents are idiots.", "This is legit insane. I hope more people see this video and put a spotlight on what's going on.", "> what I was up against.\n\nAll the same pitfalls and dangers that you would expect from a poorly moderated/ regulated speculative market and forum, except marketed and pushed directly to kids. At least that's my takeaway from the video. \n\nRoblox's approach seems to be a mix of \"not our problem,\" and \"what problem?\"", "I love how people who know deep down that they have no real argument just claim other people are ignorant without explaining anything.", "How so", "The official name of Nazism is National Socialism. Nazism is literally an abbreviation of National Socialism and you WILL find references to national socialism in academic texts on the extreme right. \n\nPlenty of academics reference to National Socialism in their works - I guess they are just Nazis though? Unfortunate.\n\nEdit: for clarity, as I think some people are misreading this: I am NOT saying that the Nazis had anything to do with socialism. The ideology of the Nazis was National Socialism. It might contain the word socialism in it but it had nothing to do with socialism.", "Roblox is not just a storefront, it's an online platform aimed specifically at kids. Roblox games are not independent environments, they are part of the platform.\n\nIt's perfectly reasonable to demand that they make sure the kids aren't being exploited and harassed, just like parents wouldn't be happy if their kids were used as cheap labor or abused in a theme park where they sent them to have safe age-appropriate fun.", "Roblox has had cosmetics for sale since 2008? I started playing Team Fortress 2 again back in 2011 soon after they released cosmetics, I thought that was one of the earliest examples of video game stock markets aside from like WoW.", "I agree a team is needed, but a team of kids seems super improbable and as they suggest very demanding. I guess it comes down to the platform can be used to make games but that's not how kids use it. They play the games others make. Really a team of adults make the games, I think it's a rarity for a group of kids to make one now.", "> If I saw a 12-yo working at McDonald's, starving or not\n\nFalse equivalency right off the bat\n\nMcDonalds wouldnt hire a 12 year old, just like a video game company wouldn’t hire a 12 year old either.\n\nA better example would be a kid with a lemonade stand", "Nazism/National Socialism and Fascism are similar but different ideologies. One way of thinking about this is by using subset relationships. Fascism is a superset of Nazism, while Nazism is a subset of Fascism.\n\nAnyone that thinks Nazism has anything to do with actual socialism is either ignorant or deliberately trying to miscommunicate what are two fundamentally different ideologies. There were some socialists in the early Nazi party - but they all wound up dead/murdered.", "Yeah... You are the informed one...", "Righteous conviction is a hell of a drug.", "> Which is why they closed down their forums in the first place, so they no longer have that obligation and responsibility.\n\nI don't use Roblox, but I am quite sure that they have communication within the platform. Removing forums, a very outdated technology, doesn't seem like a huge issue to me. The rest of your paragraph descends into a ramble about how they should have places for discussion....which they do. But most people don't want it in the first place because there are far better systems for collaboration which aren't in their platform.\n\n>I do think they have a responsibility to police employment policies.\n\nSo a company, who has no say in how another company operates, should be allowed to access that level of detail of the private life of that company? You realize that if you wanted to allow this kind of detail, every single person who uses Roblox would need to provide all the details and access of their personal lives to be subject to the scrutiny of Roblox? Because by having an account you may be part of a development team. So they need to verify that by examining your personal life. Because you put them in charge of being responsible about it.\n\n>It's crazy to even be talking about employment policies when it's 10 year old children creating the games. That alone should be reason for Roblox to take all this very seriously.\n\nYes, it is crazy. But that is the responsibility of the parents. Not Roblox.", "The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet.", "Yeah they had shirts and the newer body style that wasnt blocky back then.\n\nAnd hats and shit.\n\nNo idea why I got downvoted lol", "\"3D game engine\" is not the ultra-intimidating thing it used to be. Learning to make a 3D game now is easier than a 2D game when I started.", "Given that after community drama, the similar Club Penguin servers were C&D'd, I suspect Disney actually are ignoring Toontown Rewritten. Someone must be aware once the original devs started sending over original design documents. It's even been mentioned offhand on major YouTube channels like LinusTechTips. \n\nThe community has been very careful to continue to be child friendly (the chat in game is still based on a set of whitelisted words), most of the online forums have rulesets that require conversations to be appropriate for children. They keep their servers secure, and community the reasonably low drama. They removed the most blatant still-in-use Disney IP that they could (Disney characters no longer wander the ingame neighborhoods) too.", "Because he thinks he's getting under everyone's skin, and that he knows more than everyone else. He's taking mass amounts of copium to make up for his own insecurities.", "Indeed, it is a key difference.\n\n\nSide note: \n> its pretty limited.\n\n\"The enemy of art is the absence of limitations.\"\n\nHere's a first-person dungeon-crawler made in SMM2, just to illustrate this last point:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86GQUfbSWyE", "Not really. He mentioned GG once but there isn't any evidence he had anything to do with it.", "Is it time I sell my robolox stock? It been very good to me", "Its not the same word. The term you used was created specifically to confuse and deflect from the bad connotations of what the actual word is.", "1. In my experience the only ones throwing around ‘national socialism’ are fascists themselves or right wing apologists. So no, it’s not ‘language used by everyone’.\n2. You’re right, Nazis we’re idiots, so we shouldn’t use their name, which is inaccurate, to describe themselves. I would argue that Nazi has become in the common parlance a term separate in most people’s minds from “national socialism”.\n3. Were not arguing an academic paper which would have clearly defined terms on that discussion. Common speech is tricky that way. Hence Hitler’s abuse of it.\n4. No one is erasing anything by using appropriate terms. Do we casually refer to North Korea as a democratic people’s republic? Not in my experience, even though that’s what it’s officially called. It would be inaccurate.\n5. As for Stalinists, well, as you say, they’re Stalinists. See how easy that was?", "Last vestiges of socialism in the NSDAP ranks were purged in the Night of The Long Knives.", "Okay sure. 👍", "There's a ton that's wrong with games journalism, it's entirely possible to care about that and not give a shit about whatever random shit you're talking about.", "Show them this video (not that they'll watch it).", "It's just deflection after deflections unfortunately.", "Nope. This isn't about the games, it's about the people they communicate with THROUGH these \"games\" and even just through Discord.", ">National Socialism isn't a euphemism, it's literally the name of the ideology. \n\nNo, it's not. That's the name of the PARTY. You are illustrating their point. Just because the party names themselves something, doesn't mean that's their ideology.\n\nThe IDEOLOGY is fascism.", "Playing Roblox =/= developing games for Roblox\n\nIf you are working in a team working as a developer and getting paid. Yes they are performing labor, it's a job.\n\nFeel like this perfectly encapsulates why workers in game development get treated so badly, because it's work that's \"fun\" so why do you care about payment? It's \"fun\" so why don't you work extra hours.\n\nAs a developer it just comes off as people think programming is not a real job, it's really weird??", "I don't see the issue with Roblox having collectible items that can be bought, sold, and traded. He says that it's dangerous because kids won't be money-savvy enough to understand the risk that they're taking as they buy items, but doesn't that also present a way for kids to become money-savvy? Doesn't this means of teaching kids the basics of investing contribute to Roblox's main vision of being an educational platform? The basis of his argument is that kids are trading large amounts of real money for virtual items, however, most kids are also not trading big-ticket items on the catalog.", "Great work. I hope I see games journalists talk about it. Then I hope I see it on the news.", "So children play a 'Second Life-style' game where the kids are underpaid employees, they go to Lego strip clubs, gamble real money and collect useless cyber-swag at massively inflated prices? \n\nHoly fucking shit. I guess I shouldn't be surprised at anything anymore.", "It isn't. It's just a continuation of \"don't let your kids fall in with a bad crowd\" that's been true forever.", "I think you missed my point. I am saying say Nazi more. The Nazis reasoning for using the term socialism was propagandistic. They were above all anti-communist at first. But socialist and communist policies were popular so the Nazis wanted to signal they would create social policies — but only for “true” Germans, of course. \n\nHistory buffs can correct my finer points but basically I’m saying say National Socialist Party and Nazi, keep them connected, or just say Nazi. Help keep that Nazi crap disconnected from real socialism.", "I assume the black market makes that a little more interesting.", "I played this MMO called Puzzle Pirates 16 years ago that was complex enough to attract adults while being accessible to kids and it was probably the most wholesome place I experienced on the Internet as a teenager. Can't remember a single experience that I would describe as toxic.", "Absolutely clears it up, and taken from a moral perspective, I agree with you. Reddit and many other companies are exploiting users’ (including children’s) attention. I just wouldn’t use the word labor specifically, given the legal connotation.", "Send the other parents this video! It's worth a shot.", "Ah, it sounds like your nephew is in what Roblox calls a \"group\". Some of them are just fan clubs and such, but a lot of them are like MilSims (those are the kind that I played with) where you go to scheduled \"trainings\" and then perform \"raids\" on other groups (basically a pre-scheduled team deathmatch where score is kept between both groups). I personally never had any bad experiences with them, but I'm sure there's a lot of bad ones out there. Also keep in mind my knowledge is from like 2013, so a lot may have changed since then. I imagine they use Discord now (probably why your nephew had it), so your nephew might have been interacting with a lot of strangers.", "Yikes, that's a lot of bs", ">whatever random shit\n\nOh, now you're gonna act like you've never heard of it? Pssh", "LMAO 10/10 argument, have an upvote 👍", "Yeah i see my niece and kid play. I personally never gave them money or something but I guess. Like gift cards and shit like other games?", "Maybe you should just stick to sport.", "When I first saw what actual Roblox was after being bombarded by memes about it the first thing that sprung to mind:\n\n\"Kids are in danger here\".\n\nNow I know that hardly scratches the hood on the issue.", "That's really cool, thanks for the update. I haven't checked in for awhile and was only peripherally aware of Rewritten in the first place.", "I realllllllllllllllllllllllly hope you do more videos on this. This company is disgusting and Id bet 99% of parents dont know anything about this. Im a gamer and I didnt know anything about this. I'd bet they also have a huge pedo community just like PSN and Xbox live which neither will admit nor will they do ANYTHING when you have chat logs of someone trying act like an admin and telling them if they dont send nudes they will ban them.\n\nInvestors need to be made aware of this as well. I'd send the links to every news agency I could find.", "National Socialism is literally a form of fascism. It's only called National Socialism because the political party was named National Socialists in an attempt to redefine socialism.", "Roblox advertises to the kids who are playing how they can make their own assets and games like it's a fun workshop activity rather than a real job. Even though, as the video says, they know now there are real professional teams making these games... which often still includes children. \n\nThis is the environment Roblox has created. It's not an accident that kids are putting free labor into it, it's part of their business model. Which is why this is all so damning.", "However, as far as those kind of tools go, I'd say those are somewhat obtuse (especially BYOND!), although very powerful.\n\nI'd recommend something like [Scratch](https://scratch.mit.edu/), or even [Clickteam Fusion](https://store.steampowered.com/app/478960/Clickteam_Fusion_25_Free_Edition/). Both are free and absolutely great!", "Nah haven't you been reading this thread? The solution is to prohibit your children from interacting with anything you find confusing and scary, according to Reddit today.", "My nephew is hardcore into it as well. He’s six and I feel like he learns a lot of things he shouldn’t from the game. But his father doesn’t really monitor anything so what can you do.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect\n\n> The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet. It is named after American singer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project’s photograph of her residence in Malibu, California, taken to document California coastal erosion, inadvertently drew greater attention to it in 2003.", "Always upvote The Alt-Right Playbook.", "You cannot access any of their games etc", "[Streisand effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) \n \n >The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet. It is named after American singer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project’s photograph of her residence in Malibu, California, taken to document California coastal erosion, inadvertently drew greater attention to it in 2003.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "This dude didn’t do anything that serious, mostly sharing anti-simetic memes and having radical opinions on shit. But he does have a big collection of ww2 memorabilia, a few airsoft guns (and he plans on getting more) and i am starting to feel very unsafe around him. What i find really disturbing is that his parents are praising him for “being smart” for using a vpn and not giving away his location and shit. His ego is up trough the fucking roof and he told me to my face that i (and everyone around me) am stupid and he is smart (for being the only one beliving that xenophobic shit). I am starting to get very very worried\n\nEdit: Something very worrying is that he now is wants to (and is defined going to) get into military school so he can buy a live gun. He is also very tall and strong and is very irascible (he almost fucking drowned his sister in the pool once ffs). I really have no idea what to do. I am genuinely afraid of him and his parents are doing jackshit", "I think you're way too far down the weird political bubble the US is in, my experience as a Dutch Social Democrat is cometely different, my socialist friends over in the US don't interimingle the terms either but maybe that's because my friend group found each other out of a love for history and politics. \n\nFor point 2 this is not true in most of Europe or Germany. \n\nFor point 3 when debating what terms means, I would go by factual defiinion, this is often agreed upon by scholars and the academic community in some form , not what your acquaintances/online political enemies use. \n\nFor point 4 you are, fascist and national socialist are two different things, to lump Germany in the same group as Italy or Japan is reductionist of just how absurd their racial theory and political theory was, were both Italy and Japan still rephensible and just as bad in different ways ? Yes. Were they ideologically the same? No. \nFor your comparison to Korea, no we do not, but that's the countries name, not the ideology they follow which is Juche this is a false equivalency, the name of a political ideology and the name a country decides to give itself are two different things, one describes the blueprints for how to run society (or lack thereof) and the other is what it decides to call the state to the rest of the world.\n\nFor point 5 - yes, and stalinism falls under communism as an ideology, do we now pretend they're the same? No. One is deeply rephensible the other isn't.\n\nFor that matter, myself calling me a social democat, does that link the ideology to the democratic party in the US which is mostly a neo-liberal right wing charade with a small progressive wing that's actually leftist? No. Use terms as they are meant rk be used.", "how is it child labor", "Not disagreeing about his role in shaping Gamergate, but Bannon actually got his introduction to the power of the \"rootless white male\" (actual quote from the man himself) demographic when angry Gamers got Blizzard to crack down on the WoW gold farm he owned in the mid 00s.\n\n[There are lots of articles about this topic](https://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7)", "I play Bad Business, I don't talk to anyone in that game, just in it for the free fps. I don't financially support the game in any way other than playing a few rounds as a warm up.", "No, they worked with corporations much more than they took them over- notice that VW, Hugo Boss, IBM etc exist.\n\nJust for reference, here's a breakdown Umberto Eco's Foundation points of fascism: \n\n>The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n\n>The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n\n>The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n\n>Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n\n>Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition. \n\n>Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n\n>The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n\n>The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n\n>Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n\n>Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n\n>Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n\n>Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n\n>Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n\n>Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”", "Ah, well you said he could short them, which to me means short selling. That also directly impact the stock price, vs buying a put which does not directly affect the stock. That's how I misunderstood what you meant.", "There's a likely outcome, with Roblox being so successful now as they are, that they can just get some form of licensing for the IP used instead of having to take it down. Many companies would just take the extra payday for the slight hassle and never look back (of course there will be the Nintendos & Disneys that value their IPs over money as well). As to the issues raised in the vid the Robux will just get passed down the line with each company claiming it's \"not their problem\" to deal with, etc.", "In all seriousness, I'm not trying to draw an equivalent. You stated that \n\n>When I think of child labour I think of kids that either have to work or starve to death so they choose the former and get paid pennies to make shoes…\n\nA 12yo working at McDonald's, who would otherwise not starve or whatever, would fit your bill here. And I would find it quite concerning.\n\nEven outside of this thread about Roblox and TikTok - child labor outside of risk of starvation is still child labor and puts the child at risk of exploitation by adults, and can cause the child harm.", "Thanks for the well-written response", "Trying so so so hard to distance your own ideology from that of those who have put it into practice", "Just last week while I was buying Roblox gift cards for my nephews who only want those for Christmas, my husband wondered why Roblox didn’t have their own cryptocurrency. I guess they almost do.", "Can I get a TL;DR for this TL;DW?", "Lol stick to Nascar bro, the nuances of basement trolls being manipulated by more successful men are a bit complex compared to turning left 100 times", "No, the \"actual word\" (Nazi) came after- it's a contraction of national and socialist. \n\nYes, the Nazis were not socialist by any means. But they literally were the National Socialists, that was their name. We just call them nazi for short.", "Did you just say that Ben Shapiro is a Nazi? Lol Dude has some weird views but he's far from being a Nazi especially considering he's Jewish.", "She was also a giant mecha godzilla thing in South Park. The song was awesome too. BAAAAABUUURAAAA BAAABUUUURAAAA", "Not sure there's gonna be room for a nuanced take on this, but hear me out...\n\nOn the one hand yes, this is all very disturbing because it involves kids. On the other hand, things which are organized _outside of_ roblox controlled spaces _really aren't_ their responsibility. They really don't have control over that, and any attempt at sanctions or moderation would effectively mean roblox has to setup its own court system and try to guess whether the developer or the game-owner are telling the truth when they have no access to either's communication history (which is on discord) and therefore no way to determine who is telling the truth. \n\nThey are purposely a platform, rather than a publisher, and as such it's really not reasonable for them to moderate _millions_ of children effectively. The ultimate cause of these problems is parents attempting to offload supervision of their children to roblox even when their children are getting into things that are serious enough parents should be involved.\n\n\ngranted there is room for roblox to provide better tools for managing group development (such as a set of standard revenue splitting agreements that kids can use to share ownership of games they create instead of having it go through one account and split offline). But while that would be a cool feature, it's not one they're obligated to provide either based on what they've created. \n\nIf you're a parent whose kid is developing for roblox, get them to talk about how it works. Ask to see the terms of any agreements they're making so you can help make sure they get a good deal. It's probably counter productive to try to ban your kids from participating, but make sure they know when an agreement (or lack thereof) leaves them open to getting scammed, is too good to be true, or doesn't sound like a fair trade for what they're contributing. Giving this kind of advice may be really hard. You may even need to create your own roblox account and figure the whole thing out yourself in order to really get to the bottom of things. But you can't expect things to go well if you leave the responsibility of supporting your child to a huge corporation.", "Seconded! I already heard that Roblox's moderation is terrible and that there are predators in the community but I had no idea about how greedy and shady this fucking company is.", "Hardly a nice article, it's full of poorly sourced accusations and assumptions about the gaming industry and media. In fact, in the middle they reference a study about how video games aren't linked to increased aggression or violence and just kind of brush it off. It unironically references Pewdiepie as having made “antisemitic jokes”, quotes 4chan users as fact, calls gamergate a sexist harassment campaign, mistakes trolling edgelords as being serious, and just generally exaggerates any accusations it can make. Somehow it's not an old article, with all its misinformation and bad takes, it's from this year. It's no wonder, the author used to write for Kotaku, a real bastion of journalistic integrity and accuracy.", "well roblox doesn’t make anything to replace discord and bans people who call out shitty studios on their dev forum. Not to mention that they do absolutely nothing about the massive amount of games that are made to exploit kids, with them occasionally even supporting said games. Probably because kids spend virtual currency on it and then buy more", "I've literally never heard it called DPRK outside of very sparse conversations. 99% of the time, it's just North Korea.", "well roblox doesn’t make anything to replace discord and bans people who call out shitty studios on their dev forum. Not to mention that they do absolutely nothing about the massive amount of games that are made to exploit kids, with them occasionally even supporting said games. Probably because kids spend virtual currency on it and then buy more", "he funded a whole thing. check out innuendo studios they did a video on gamergate. it was an entire psyop funded with dark money", "show them this video, it might not work on everyone, but some will open the eyes\n\nFor the parents i mean", "TL;DR\n\nKids use the internet, Roblox should control everything kids do on the internet, Roblox is responsible if anyone does a bad thing on or off Roblox's servers", "And in another thread, people are arguing that we shouldn't call American supremacists Nazis either.\n\n\"You see, we like our Nazis in uniform. That way we can spot 'em just like that.\"\n\nI can certainly see the value in calling it as it is, like there's country racist and then there's straight up goose-stepping National Socialist.", "What's wrong with Sandbox? It's just tools for Source 2 and a successor to Gmod?", "What do you want Roblox to do about it? Many of these problems sound made up, or something parents should do something about instead of Roblox.", "> I've known about Roblox for a long time but never knew what it was all about\n\nEdit: For those of you TL;DW the video, here's a summary from a [thread below](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/_/hodzrr1):\n\n> TL;DR Roblox, a platform built to help children be game developers, is probably not a safe environment for children since success on the platform hinges on either talking to strangers on offsite services like Discord, or gambling on a virtual stock market.", "I knew Roblox items could be a bit expensive but holy shit", "Oh absolutely, I agree. Just saying it's easier to moderate because of how limiting it is. But yeah, limiting yourself is a good way to create incredible stuff.", "Roblox basically exists as a platform for kids to play rip-off versions of other games for free. I'm not sure how they haven't been sued by many large companies at this point.", "Yeah. They are fascists. That's what they are called.", "Can't wait until Disney/Marvel Nintendo, Sega and Microsoft take bait out of Roblox's stock price for copyright infringement.", "This is like really in to the weeds arguments, but:\n\nYour off the block kid can't just begin working in these teams, those are more experienced people who have real knowledge and can create value. These people expect to be paid, not just have fun.\n\nKids making small games for their friends which is actually just for fun.\n\nI would think about it like minecraft servers. You can open a LAN server with your friends and have som fun, but that's very different from hypixel which has paid employees and million of visitors.", "Well to insist on using a phrase that didn't even come up in the article and happens to be a favorite canard of some of the dumbest people on Reddit is pretty moronic if you ask me", "But that's the point here, they wanted to be called socialists but didn't actually practice socialism.\n\nPS I don't consider myself a socialist, but I do think the shadow that's been cast over socialism because the Nazis misused that word has been detrimental. Y'all realise publically funded emergency services and public schools are socialist policies?", "Yeah I remember buying stuff like clothing to unlock locked features in some Roblox games. Stuff like better guns or faster money generation", "Eh, I spent a lot of time on the internet w/o me or my friends running into pedophile problems. I dont know if its MORE rampant these days but I had more issues IRL tahn online with that if you kno what i mean", "They need an entire community. It takes a village and all that stuff.\n\nEspecially today when living off a single salary gets further away out of reach for the average family.", "Innuendo studios LOL\n\ndude reread your comment...a psyop funded with dark money? Get off Reddit for a while.", "Not in any broad sense. They also despised social welfare, and embraced class distinctions in practice. Unlike in most of traditional socialism where the individual is recognised as well as their place in the greater machinery, Nazism detested the idea of individualism at most levels of society and saw regular Germans as one homogeneous blob, while at the same time individually encouraging and rewarding those who stood out as exemplars of the Volk.\n\nThe NSDAP made appeals to socialists who were either disillusioned with the state of German politics, or nervous about the socialist political machinery's ineffectual handling of the growing influence of communists, yet one of the first major actions of the NSDAP after solidifying its position in German politics was to forcefully rid itself of the avowed socialists who were apprehensive about or vocally against the party's departure from the socialist rhetoric that drew them in.", "Once again, you seem to be missing the point. I don’t think we’re going to have a very useful discussion here. Small variations don’t negate an overarching definition. If they did, what would be the point?\nNazism is a form of fascism. This is widely recognized in both academic and non-academic circles around the world.\nIf we can’t agree on that, well, I think we’re done here. \n\nI’m not in the US. But their media is the loudest.\n\nInteresting you are Dutch, how is old Geert Wilders these days? Now he is from the “Party for Freedom”, but I suppose you might call him something else, no?", "You're the one acting like GG had no legitimate complaints and was all about hating women. That's why women were a part of it too? Internalized misogyny or something?", "Feels like a good day to short.", "Which most do cause Roblox has so much brand deals in place its sorta insane. But with their UGC store a lot of people have started stealing assets from DeviantArt to sell there.", "> is ~~probably~~ not a safe environment for children since success on the platform hinges on either talking to strangers on offsite services like Discord, or gambling on a virtual stock market\n\n\"probably\" is an understatement.", "According to the video posted here they pay children to make games for them.", "> I decided it wasn't an investable company\n\nHi. I am curious about your determination here. Based on what you shared - it sounds like it's certainly investable as hell - but has myriad risks that make it an unwise investment?", "Their IDEOLOGY is called fascism, their PARTY was called \"National Socialist...\". The naming of the party was literally only to get the interest of the workers since socialism was popular. The workers got duped and you dumbasses still get duped to this day. You can find multiple interviews where Hitler literally admits this tactic.", "Someone looking to learn the kind of programming involved in Roblox game design would be more advanced than drag-and-drop programming. I've heard good things about the two you mentioned but have no personal experience. I imagine they probably have a way to do more advanced scripting for intermediate game designers.\n\nIt's weird to me that someone would consider GameMaker Studio obtuse, it's one of the most popular game engines in the world. I mentioned BYOND specifically because it's very similar to Roblox in design, a gated online community that allows you to make and create online games without any knowledge of netcode and that are (usually) only accessible through their own proprietary software. The learning curve isn't very steep and learning how to use it also teaches the fundamentals of OOP.", "Just do minecraft instead. They can even learn Java instead of ~~Luna~~ Lua if they play the Java version, which is way more useful. They can also play offline.", "At least the FBI are already aware of him. If he gets worse just report him so he's looked at again. Maybe military school might actually knock some sense into him. They don't put up with egotistical hot heads.", "Rightoids and not knowing what they're talking about. Name a more iconic duo, I'll wait...", "The Trump supporters literally tried to overthrow the peaceful transition of government on Jan.6th.\n\nThey tried to do a \"Beer Hall putch\", you know, exactly like the nazis\n\nAnd you think calling them fascist is wrong, lmao.", "I'm not expecting people without any tech experience to just learn to code (lol). But absolutely disregarding your kids interest just because it's to techy for you, or so you think, is wrong and you shouldn't limit your kids interest just because you have a mental barrier. Lets flip it around and say my future kid is incredibly interested in ice hockey. I can't stand on ice even for a dutch dude. But i will spend time with my kid figuring it out, because i feel like that is what i should give to that kid. Empowerment in their interests and not disregard just because you don't think you can do it", "This might be a dumb question, but do games like that exist already or are you speaking hypothetically?", "If you have any evidence that the term 'national socialism' was \"created specifically to confuse and deflect from the bad connotations of what the actual word is\", I'd love to see it. I never claimed national socialists are socialist. I said national socialists are nazis. It is the same word.", "So many flavors coalescing now, it’s true. And most denying the Nazi label despite brand recognition lol. \n\nScariest flavor to me—probably because it’s the one my relative got sucked into—is Christian Nationalism (I’m in the US). The people we think are the Jews aren’t really the Jews, holocaust denial, Qanon and antivax NWO shit but all with a religious end time angle. It’s basically what Alex Jones is doubling down on now that talking about real events is going to cost him millions.\n\nNinja edit: now that lying constantly for decades about real events is finally costing him $$$$. F that guy.", "I mean keep your children offline and then the at least you don't have to worry about that there's absolutely no reason why a child should have access to the internet like that", "Military school wouldn't do anything - a lot of these people are motivated by the idea of joining the armed forces.", "Don't worry.\n\nWhen it comes to you, we'll be sure to use the term \"national socialist\", from now on.\n\nHappy now?", "Yeah, you get it", "I mean there's absolutely no reason why a child should be allowed access to the internet. That's just asking for all kinds of trouble. You could restrict their access to very specific child-friendly websites but children these days know how to get around those safeguards. I don't know maybe it sounds crazy but when I was a kid I spent the majority of my time out in the backyard playing with my sibling or with friends on the same road I had absolutely no need to communicate with them and other ways other than in person I could just walk down the street bring their doorbell and ask him if they want to come out and play", "To mimic or copy something. In my experience crossword makers love this word for some reason, but it is rare in everyday use.", "I'm seeing no socialist ideas in there. Just Fascist and Nationalist ideas.", "are you insinuating that i, a person on the left, am a nazi because i use the historically accurate term to distinguish them?\n\nactually retarded fuck off lol", "They were not socialists at all.\n\nThat's the issue you seem to not understand.\n\nThey rounded up the actual socialists and send the to concentration camp, to be worked and/or gassed to death.", "you kinda sound like a pussy lol", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Etymology\n\nhttps://books.google.com/books?id=UaggHAJ7jToC&pg=PA247#v=onepage&q&f=false\n\nAccording to these, The term Nazi has been around for longer than facism and used to be a derogatory word for maybe a clumsy person or peasant, characterising an awkward and clumsy person, a yokel. In this sense, the word Nazi was a hypocorism of the German male name Igna(t)z (itself a variation of the name Ignatius)—Igna(t)z being a common name at the time in Bavaria, the area from which the NSDAP emerged.", "Desktop version of /u/Jim_White's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Etymology>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", ">Nazi literally means National Socialism. Now you know, glad to help.\n\nWhich has nothing to do with socialism, in anything but the name.\n\nThe actual socialists were sent to concentration camps and worked and/or gassed to death by the nazis.\n\nWhy are you people so intent on perpetuating Goebbel's propaganda?", "And Nazis are fascists. I never said shit about socialism.", "I can rephrase that into \"I'd love to know what you're smoking if you think most parents have the time to sit down with their kids\". I think we're talking about a whole different problem here", "Quinns actually isnt the main guy for People Make Games, though he is a major contributor and presents some of their videos. He joined them only in the past couple years.", "You can always go short my friend :)", "I don't think that's always possible though. Kids just have so much more free time to learn than parents. Like my parents were not tech idiots, but there was just no way they'd catch up to my knowledge while having to work a job on top of everything else they did to take care of my family. If they outright banned me from stuff they didn't know, then I also likely wouldn't have a great career in tech today.\n\nIt seems like a tricky balance, which is why I'd be scared to ever be a parent.", "Many people falsely believe that the nazis were socialists because of this. Especially the American right.\n\nThat's why the destinction is important.\n\nWhy are you people intent on perpetuating Goebel's propaganda?", "Seems like the bullshit that went on a pamphlet before elections. Their ideology is revealed by what they actually said and did after they gained power. Unless you think that Nazis actually believed in one of the points you regurgitated, \"All citizens of the state shall be equal as regards rights and obligations.\"", "I remover playing Roblox when I was younger. There was a lot of sexual messages and events the happened in the game I didn’t understand or comprehend until I was older.", "But people dont use forums anymore, they use discord. Which is my entire point\n\nAnd yes people use discord like forums, they use it to meet, discuss, archive and develop", "They are", "It's not that I think it's too techy (I actually have experience doing gamedev lol, though not to a professional standard), but rather that for most parents it will be more effective to get some understanding of what their kid likes, and what they're doing, and help steer them away from some things. \n\nTaking this away from roblox for a better example of what I'm talking about, a lot of kids enjoy fortnite's costume customisation. Which is monetised in a very predatory way. But the kid isn't exclusively there for the costumes. They're mostly there for the multiplayer aspect. If you ban them from playing fortnite and try to encourage them to take up fashion design, that will probably just upset them, because you aren't really engaging with their interests, you're trying to impose what you think are better ones on them.\n\nSame with roblox. Vast majority of the kids playing it are interested in \"game design\" in the same sense as making up new rules for tag, or nerf wars or whatever. They're there for the interaction with friends, not to be an actual game dev. The best way for parents to deal with this is, as you say, be there for them in their interests as much as you can. Get involved - just look over their shoulder and ask them questions about what they're doing and who with. And if they're on a nazi roleplay server, or a pedophile grooming ring, tell them why that's bad.", "It wouldn’t stop them from going to Walgreens and buying Robux gift cards.", "To add to what you said, also quoting the wiki page:\n\n> The NSDAP briefly adopted the designation \"Nazi\" in an attempt to reappropriate the term, but it soon gave up this effort and generally avoided using the term while it was in power.\n\nThey never really wanted to be called Nazis.", "This is probably a controversial opinion, but honestly, this video completely misses the point.\n\nMy anecdotal experience here is that as a teenager, I was introduced to Minecraft, and ended up sharpening my development skills by operating as a consultant. I ended up doing work for some of the largest Minecraft servers at the time. Now I work as a developer full time (field unrelated to video games), very successfully (even when compared to other developers - if we’re going by total comp, I’m probably easily in the top 0.01% of developers). I loved Minecraft for very similar points the video posits as negatives - and I think you should too!\n\nI think the best analogy here might be to compare children developing this user-developed content to children banding together to build something like a treehouse. Completely self-managed, they set the rules for how they work, their budget, how they acquire resources and how they distribute labor according to their capabilities. It’s an incredible learning opportunity - but we shouldn’t confuse this with professional real estate development or interior design.\n\nThen they decide who should be allowed in, and who should get what privileges. Now apply this analogy to developing content for a game like Roblox. Sure, you might have instances of bullying or unfairness - but this is a chance for children to overcome these adversities and learn to deal with challenges on their own. Please note I’m not condoning bullying or stiffing people - rather, this is an environment where children can work with children to learn and grow together by embarking on a project together.\n\nRoblox making money by “stiffing child developers” is a complete joke, in the same caliber of jokes that Lego is exploiting child labor when a child builds something with Lego pieces. These kids aren’t working - they’re “playing”. For me personally, developing user content for Minecraft was my way of playing the game. The vast majority of user-developed content for this game (and similar to Minecraft) has very little value, in the same way that a treehouse does not constitute a dwelling somebody can live in. The development of the platform itself is several times more difficult than most of the so-called “games” that most of the child developers and even teams are coming up with. Compare what Roblox is providing to be akin to Home Depot, while also having manufactured every good for sale there: from providing the lumber for the treehouse, and even the virtual real estate, to ladders, screws, drills, and more. Even the templates for how to build a “treehouse” are provided! I don’t mean this to shit on the people learning to code here - but let’s not confuse the difficulty level of some entry level scripting built on top of an easy to use API with putting together an entire game. The vast majority of user-developed game content on Roblox is of extremely low quality, because it’s made by children who are still learning. The platform is what makes this all possible - the Roblox team makes the platform, and could easily implement the games themselves - but the user developers could never make the platform as they’re not nearly skilled enough. Instead, this platform is a chance for kids to experiment and sharpen their social and practical skills in a low-stakes environment - whether they’re learning to code or designing business logic.\n\nThe “unregulated managers”. I think this point is incredibly overblown. In fact, I think this is an incredible selling point. In the world of Minecraft plug-in development, there were similar situations. At the end of the day, what we’re seeing here is kids learning to organize themselves and work in larger and larger teams. Having been a part of this as a teenager, I developed a lot of people management skills and greatly enjoyed my time “working”. This is honestly a selling point, rather than a detractor. People who worked as children in Minecraft were bred to be entrepreneurs in the same way that I’m sure that Roblox is doing so as well. It’s an extremely interesting thing to study, because you see children develop really cool skills that you’d think are limited to adults - conflict resolution, setting timetables, being able to work in a team, persistence. These so-called children organize themselves into companies and tackle some incredibly interesting problems! It’s like a safer mini society for children to participate in where the stakes are much lower. For me personally, the reason I became a good developer is 100% because of Minecraft. I managed my Rolodex of clients, worked with resolving problems users had playing the games, and managed a small team of developers where we all worked together to churn out content, and it was some of the best years of my life. I will cherish those memories. People should instead see this point as kids forming complex communities to work together and solve complex problems, in the same way that a group of friends might work together to build a treehouse or something. Except this treehouse is far more complex and constitutes multiple weeks, months, and even years of iterative work/play. The argument here is far from “Roblox is profiting from children developing the game for them”, and far closer to “children choose to play the Roblox platform because it lets them express their creativity similar to how playing with Lego works”. Almost all the economic value _is_ being created by Roblox, and their fee schedule is set up rightfully so.\n\nThis so-called “stock market” seems to be pretty similar to markets in other games, such as the Grand Exchange in RuneScape or whatever the market in EVE online is. Being able to buy or sell your virtual goods in-game for currency is kind of a staple most any multiplayer game. I don’t think this is valid.\n\nThe “black market” will arise for any community where trading certain goods or services is prohibited by the company, and it’s not fair to peg Roblox for this one. For example, in MMOs, there are black markets where people buy and sell in-game currency, even though the game developers try to stamp out this behavior (with very little success). Any time you prohibit something, people will find other ways to do it, and you drive these activities underground.\n\nIn short: this video is boomer af and tries to nanny children", "You're posting on the evolved version of a forum right this very second. It's organized the same way as a classic BBS to a degree that it was initially offputting to new users. Discord is a chat service akin to IRC or Skype.", "> Get off Reddit for a while.\n\nSays the Trump supporting alt-right fascist/libertarian gamergate-incel.", "You speak as an uneducated troll who hates himself and puts down others to feel superior.", "Roblox isn't one game. It's a platform for simple games. There are 1000s of games on it. My 10 year old plays a few with her friends, but we keep it monitored what she's playing and for how long", "One of the problems that Roblox has is that it pushes a lot of the responsibility down to the game developers. My kids have been scammed or hacked at least three times now. In all cases, Roblox just said it was up to the game developers to deal with the situation. In one case after I found the correct Discord channel to post on, the game creator restored items that had been stolen from my kid by exploiting a bug in the game. (They also patched the bug.)\n\nHowever, in one other case, the developer simply responded that they thought my daughter's account had been hacked and that they don't restore items lost due to hacking.\n\nIn the third case, my son's account wasn't hacked as far as I could tell... he just lost a bunch of high value items that he had spent weeks grinding in order to obtain. Posting to the developer's Discord yielded silence. As far as I can tell, there are no logs available that can be queried to find out exactly what happened.\n\nIf I had one wish from Roblox, that is the biggest one: Implement a robust user-queryable logging system that ties into every game, that tracks all logins and items. That way when things go missing, I could easily pull the logs and find out what happened. Maybe my kid lied to me and gave away their stuff. Maybe someone else has their password. Maybe they were scammed. This would all be great information for me to have.\n\nIn conclusion, kudos to the developers of Speed Run Simulator, and a big BOO to the developers of Adopt Me and Islands.", "Don't know how it is in the US specifically, but a former acquaintance of mine was a full on neonazi (full member of a neonazi movement in the country I live in), and he got investigated by the police and eventually denied entry into the military on the grounds of his extreme views. That was his only dream and last I heard from him he was drinking heavily daily.", "Lmao dude, i realize reddit is a forum. Doesnt mean people dont use discord the same way", "I hear you. It is a tricky balance sometimes. From interacting with parents I can pretty safely say that most of them don't bother to try whatsoever, which is the real problem.", "Chris is a part of a lot of SU&SD stuff. Annie too actually.", "Maybe if you have time to be on Reddit, you can watch a 20 minute video and form your own opinion. If you don’t have the time or motivation, why bother?", "Yes, and I use my microwave for the same purpose as my oven. That doesn't make my oven a microwave.", "I presently restrict my kids' gaming to the Roblox-verified (or whatever it's called) games only, forbid microtransactions, and have shut off messaging/friending from other accounts. They enjoy it a great deal, and are too young to build games or visit discord etc. This seemed relatively safe and my kids are pretty happy with the arrangement. Is there something more I should or could be doing to protect their experience as nascent gamers rather than game devs? I thought I had reviewed things pretty well but clearly I had not.", "\n>The monetisation is actually recent only started in 2013 \n\n\nDude that's 8, almost 9 years, what do you mean recent?", "Christ, good luck mate, stay safe. It's never easy seeing people get radicalized and into that sort of stuff, and it feels like there's never anything you can do until it's too late. Just about all you can do is keep your head in and try to keep you and your friends away from that negativity. \n\nI really don't know what position you are in agewise, but somebody definitely needs to tell his parents, school, or any trusted adult about it if they don't already know. Not that that's a guarantee either, since they might just dismiss it. It's just a really hard situation to be in, especially when you can't feel safe.", "I am not from the US. This is why he wants to get into the military, it’s one of the only ways you can get a live gun. He and his father were interrogated by our country’s “FBI”. That’s where he has that huge record. Besides this he is ALSO being looked into by the actual FBI. I know my wording was a bit confusing, i hope this can clear it up a little.", "Youre missing the forest for the trees dude. My point is that people are using discord to develop instead of forums and thats causing problems with kids. But instead of providing a rebuttal you're arguing my vocabulary", "I can't even begin to imagine, how much of a loser one would have to be, to defend gamergate.", "Yeah no. When I was 13 I was busy learning how html and coding works while my parents barely knew how the computer works. Restricting me from learning more than them would have a serious negative impact on my life now.", "Oh, I didnt know that! Thanks for letting me know and sorry for misunderstanding!", "It didn't used to be this bad. I played Roblox back in 2010, and it felt more like a platform where individuals create their own stuff. Maybe if you wanted to go to the VIP area, the dev would charge $10.", "Originally I replied asking because I didn't have the time...but from all the upvotes, I know I'm not the only one. The people that took the time to write up a synopsis about it to help us out is huge...not to mention, if for some reason the video gets removed, for archival purposes, this information is still here...so you can continue to hate, or think of something other than \"ohh this guy must be lazy!\" OR...You can help", "You're right, I am very specifically arguing about your vocabulary. I agree with your point at large.\n\nEDIT: That is to say, your vocabulary implies that this hasn't always been a problem. It has. IRC existed long before Discord.", "> well roblox doesn’t make anything to replace discord\n\nWhy should they?\n\n>and bans people who call out shitty studios on their dev forum\n\nAs you post on a medium that does the exact same thing...\n\nThat aside, why would I expect them not to remove people who aren't posting about development on a development forum?\n\n>Not to mention that they do absolutely nothing about the massive amount of games that are made to exploit kids\n\nI always love this idea. That kids have unlimited funds with which to throw at games and are \"exploited\" by these systems. Parents are the responsible party here. If they see their kids gambling, they should be the ones shutting it down. Minors aren't getting credit cards and amassing huge debt. Parents are letting their children do this. Why is everyone so hung up on delegating parenting to Roblox instead of saying \"Hey, I should keep an eye on what my kids are doing?\"", "Mussolini's ideology was fascism, kinda \"vanilla fascism\". National Socialism was \"fascism with teutonic characteristics\" to crib a line from China.", ">Hahahahaha,\n>\n>Like I said, incredible how people like you choose to stay ignorant. I can’t imagine.\n\nIncredible how easy it is to manipulate young male losers.\n\nYou were played. And now you're stuck, desperately trying to not look like an idiot.\n\nBecause your fragile ego won't let you accept the simple fact, that _you are wrong_.", "You missed another issue. There is zero copyright enforcement on their platform. There are thousands of games that make use of other's copyrighted material. I'm surprised Disney hasn't dropped a billion dollar lawsuit on them yet.", "This is like saying being pro-life is about controlling women despite like 40% of women supporting it. Maybe there are some legitimate points that were raised and it isn't all the strawman woman hating movement you were led to believe.", "I’m helping you by telling you to make time to form your own opinion. I already downloaded and saved the video, posted this and now I’m here. It took 5 minutes. \n\nYou may not be “lazy”, but you’re certainly not making any effort to help either. There are bots than can summarize the video for you..or you could watch it and think about it.", "Wow. I did not know the guy from the boardgame review channel Shut Up & Sit Down had another channel.", "That's a lot of buzzwords and like half are contradictory. Jesus.", "People with zero expertise are correcting you using pedantry like they get to control what people call things. \n\nThey could have just googled \"National Socialism\" and clicked the first link.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism\n\nLiterally the first sentence.\n\n\"is the ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party\"\n\nIt's just a name and names are decided on by real people and real people called these assholes idology \"National Socialism\" and there's no logicing a way out of it, thats was its name then and now and forever. Names don't need to make sense. \n\nThe National Socialist party was renamed from the \"pan-German nationalist and antisemitic German Workers' Party\" at no point did it ever pretend to be anything other than fascist except when trying to con money out of workers. It was always a fascist workers party. \n\nWikipedia says it was to make a concept that appeared better and different than socialism and was more like advertising to hitch on to a popular movement at the time but to be its polar opposite just inspired by the same societal issues.\n\nEdit: I see the downvoters have refrained from providing any actual evidence to the contrary...its just obvious apparently. Its a great example of why we do not use logic and reason to gain knowledge sometimes the obvious answer is wrong...it was a joke name from the beginning...its true meaning lost in translation and time.", "Reminds me of all the bullshit bootlicking responses I got when I asked about this bullshit during the CEO's AMA. Oh, and the CEO's pathetic PR/gaslighting non-answer.", "> shorting a stock takes a massive amount of capital to do so successfully\n\nHow so? I don't have a big investment account by any means, but my broker gives me the opportunity to short sell, and I have successfully done so on small numbers of shares multiple times. I've even held short positions for months long waiting for a stock to come back down so I could buy to close for a profit, so long as the shares aren't extremely hard to borrow, the fees are pennies on the month. I keep my short positions small relative to my account value so I'm not at risk of a margin call because I'm not stupid.", "Lawsuits. Discovery process. World of Warcraft used to sue companies that sold their gold online, so there’s precedent for going after these sites.", "> that they should ideally regulate this sort of \"work-for-Robux\" stuff themselves, rather than letting kids work with other, unsupervised, unvetted adults.\n\nI agree with this idea - at least in so much that they should add some guidelines and consequences where feasible for adults that are in any way managing the game-development contributions of minors. I feel like contributions is a better word than work. I don't think they can vet or supervise exactly, but if there's reports of abuse or inappropriate communications, with sufficient proof, they should take action and quash it hard (And maybe report it to the police!).\n\n> We could use more folks like you in politics!\n\nOh god I think I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a spoon. Wait that's probably why we have nothing but crazies as politicians... :/", ">Anyone that thinks Nazism has anything to do with actual socialism\n\nI wonder if that has to do with people using the term they picked deliberately to obfuscate what they were doing 🤔", "This platform is a lot more frightening than I ever thought. I would rather my kids played CoD and learned to casually murder NPCs than allow them into this community. The quote \"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy\" aptly describes this. Parents who let their children use this may be worse than physically abusive parents.", "Hes a friend of a friend of a friend lets say. I knew him IRL before i saw him get memed on the internet. Im not a fan of him, nor stay in contact. But a trip noneless", "As a parent, I highly recommend you disable the chat in Roblox if you allow your children to use it. The first day my child used Roblox, I witnessed several messages from someone asking age, sex, location, and are your parents around.", "The whole time, I'm just wondering how can they develop a Sonic game, explicitly using their copyright for profit? This alone is illegal.", "They do, but they're super primitive at this point in time\n\nThe Sandbox\n\nDecentraland", "Anyone got a link to the original video?", "So the content creators do all the work and the people in charge make all the money? As a professional game developer, I can say that’s just like the real video game industry.", "Thanks for helping those of us stuck at work who cant watch.", "What all of you seem to not understand is that I'm not the fuckin guy who named them the [National Socialist German Workers' Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party)", "Convenience.", "There is more to nazism than killing jews. Most of it, actually. If a dude checks \"yes\" on 100 nazi checkboxes and \"no\" on one, I'd say he's probably still a nazi. \n\nThat said, I don't know, nor care to know, who Ben Shapiro is or what beliefs he spouts off. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but his religion doesn't automatically preclude him from being considered in that little club.", "This all reminds me of Habbo Hotel", "Man does anyone else remember when parents paid attention to what their kids were doing?", "If its a European country, there's good chance they will use that record against him and not let him get a weapons permit or enlist in the military. That kid is in some DEEP shit btw oh my lord. Even I didn't manage to get into that kind of trouble when I had my edgy phase.", "Is it really a surprise that adults generally program better than children, and teams perform better than individuals?\n\nI told my kids they had zero chance of making any real money and they would be lucky to make enough pocket change worth of virtual currency to use in their own play.\n\nIt just seemed obvious to me.", "I'd piggy-back and add on GameMaker Studio 2 as well, it's great even if it's just limited to 2D games.", "I think we're pretty much on the same page here. But it just takes a bit of insight to see what your kid is actually interested in i guess. If my kid was interested in video games that could also mean that kid is blown away by what is possible in a 3D rendered world. Kids don't know shit tho and maybe Fortnite could lead into a great interest for 3D art or maybe even coding. Lets say your kid is failing in maths, this could be such a great way of showing how math is used in creating games like fortnite for example. Just by giving someone a reason to want to start liking it it could open up so many possibilities. Again, don't limit your kids interests just because you don't understand them.", "and zuck wants us to trust that meta will turn out for the betterment of everyone?", "I've seen plenty of people on the right claim they were socialists. Usually after they said something incredibly racist and got accused of being a Nazi. \"I'm not a socialist if anyone's the nazi you are!\"", "> now I know that she is a singer who is on a quest to rule the universe with a special triangle. I hope Robert Smith can catch her in time!\n\nWait, what? My god! We need to look into this lady's goings on a little more closely, imo. Tell your friends.", "Looks like it's time for me to ditch the stock too.", "Ever seen full metal jacket?", "saved for later", "In regards to the gamble stuff, have these guys ever heard of steam? Like for real the marketplace acts in the exact same way. All they did was mirror that. This has literally been the internet for the last 10 years. I'm not saying that it's right but for real this is nothing new. CS GO gambling sites, etc. Look at the hype with NFTs and stuff, this is the future and way the world is going, like it or not.", "The number of parents in this thread who are saying stuff like “I’m not gonna let my little one play this anymore because they are evil” you aren’t any different than your parents when they didn’t take the time to understand YOUR hobbies growing up.\n\nI’m a parent and my son started watching some roblox content creators on YouTube. I don’t have all the free time in the world, but I believe anything my son wants to do, I can at least learn about. We can’t expect to protect our kids from an “evil” we don’t understand ourselves. And just outright banning it in your household is an option but doesn’t solve the real problem. \n\nMy wife and I started playing some roblox games so that we could better understand the community. Most of them are horrible games fun for a maximum of 5 minutes. But I’m an adult so I also put doll houses and chutes an ladders in that category. There are a few surprisingly great games on there my wife and I still play every now and then when we are bored. \n\nThe point I’m trying to make is take the time to learn about the things your kids do before just outright labeling everything as “good” or “evil” roblox is just a site that hosts games. If you have an issue with any of the other stuff like the risk of pedophiles, that’s not a problem with roblox that’s a problem with the internet and society in general. Monitor your kids people. \n\nThe only reason I took the time to say all this, is because I’m sure a lot of us grew up with closed minded parents that didn’t understand something we liked, and so they just said “none of that in this house” and you missed out on something all the other kids were doing. So all the comments about not letting your kids play and them being mad at you, you deserve it. If you get on roblox and learn what it is and the potential ways that your kid could get Into trouble and decide you don’t want them to risk it, you’ve made an informed decision and as a parent that’s your call. But most of the comments here are “I’ve never tried it but my little one will never again….” And you aren’t solving the problem. What happens when the next big thing comes out and you also don’t take the time to learn about that and there’s no video to show you the POTENTIAL dangers of letting your kid be unsupervised on a website. \n\n\n\nSorry for the rant but there’s just nothing inherently wrong with letting your kid play some damn video games as long as you learn about the potential hazards and monitor their interactions.\n\nEDIT: I’m not sticking up for roblox, these problems need to be addressed, but parents need to do better or this problem will continue to the next “big website” kids want to be a part of. This is the equivalent of not driving down a road because there have been accidents there. Don’t ban certain roads learn safe practices that keep you as a driver safe. Learn, and address the actual problem.", "Happy to hear", "I once heard of a Roblox group that indoctrinated kids to be democratic republicans.", "Thank you for sharing this video. It has validated several of my suspicions about this company.", "As an IT Administrator, I block EVERYTHING related to Roblox, because not only is it filled with pedophiles, gambling, but also viruses, spyware, etc. \n\nI cannot imagine that every possible attack vector possible in the normal IT world isn't just WIDE OPEN in Roblox. \n\nAll sanctioned by the company.", "The internet also used to have a much harder barrier of entry as a \"Creator\" though. Now you don't need to know some obscure code to make an impact. Just look at all the right wing, conspiracy theory, pedo grooming youtubers. Or like in roblox, people making games that condition kids. Anyone can do it now which is a problem. Back in the earlier internet kids were busy on homestar runner or miniclip playing flash games. Sure you had chat rooms which were could be predatory, but the scale of bad stuff back then is miniscule to the problems we have today.", "I'm so confused by this site sometimes. What is your point then? We are not in disagreement that national socialists are nazis, and we are not in disagreement that national socialists are fascists. Yet apparently the term 'national socialists' sets you off. Why? They used it themselves. Other people have sinced used it to refer to them. The inherent contradiction in the name should continue to be taught in schools, and is, at least where I'm from. But as long as that's done, what's the problem?", "\n>\tAs you post on a medium that does the exact same thing...\n\nAnd? Reddit isn’t made for kids, so why does it matter that it sucks ass? \n\n>\tThat aside, why would I expect them not to remove people who aren't posting about development on a development forum?\n\nbecause telling people which shitty pedo studios they should avoid developing for is in fact relevant to development? I thought that was obvious. Oh well I guess to some people kids getting groomed and sexually harassed isn’t as important as some retard who can’t figure out why code that he copied from a tutorial made 20 years ago doesn’t work\n\n>\tI always love this idea. That kids have unlimited funds with which to throw at games and are \"exploited\" by these systems. Parents are the responsible party here. If they see their kids gambling, they should be the ones shutting it down. Minors aren't getting credit cards and amassing huge debt. Parents are letting their children do this. Why is everyone so hung up on delegating parenting to Roblox instead of saying \"Hey, I should keep an eye on what my kids are doing?\"\n\nRoblox is a platform made for and marketed for KIDS. Stop pretending as if the lego game is actually made for adults. Designing a platform that you know is full of kids so that said kids can easily be exploited (While filling your pockets too) with what are essentially gambling games is negligent at best.\n\n>\tWhy should they make their own chat service? \n\nBecause it’s platform dominated by big studios by design. It also made, marketed and dominated by kids. Communication is extremely important for studios of any size. Not adding a platform where communication can happen is just asking for said kids to go to shitty platforms and then inevitably get pedo-ed.", "Because the general public is fucking stupid. All i can think about is the George Carlin quote “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”", "> Back to the poor moderation. Is it a great learning experience for that 12 year old girl to have a 24 year old authority figure make sexual advances toward her? Should we allow this predatory behavior to go unchecked so that the girl is now smarter for this interaction? Do you not feel that this is a damaging experience for a developing child? Do you not recognize that thousands of children just in the US alone fall victim to this type of predation and worse every year and it all starts with seemingly innocent conversation between a grown adult and an impressionable child?\n\nI find it interesting that you levy the problem about this at Roblox and not the medium that was used for communication. If it was Discord, why is this not Discord's fault? If it was Slack, why is it not Slack's fault? If it was done through text, why is it not ATT's fault?\n\nIt seems to me you just want to be mad at Roblox and not the medium that facilitated this behavior.", "Same here. A large portion of the estate portfolio I have for my daughters is RBLX, I've never played it either since it's definitely for kids... And looks boring... That said, I'll definitely be ending my auto weekly purchase of RBLX.", "We live in the most peaceful safe time in human history. It's a fallacy that the world was ever more safe in the past and is more \"rotten\" now. People just get more of a dose of fear mongering then they ever did in the past. We're more globally connected, especially since the internet, then ever before and that means instant access to information that makes it seem more common then it actually is, when in fact its less common then it ever was.", "Good luck with that. You can try to ring in that roblox and minecraft are games for dumb babies but they would rather be dumb babies with their peers than play super mario with dad.", "So you basically just called someone a Nazi without actually knowing their beliefs and just from whatever you've heard about that person? That's harsh.", "These kind of platforms with fake economies that take real money have no place in a children's game. The entire concept of roblox should be illegal. You are basically conditioning kids into becoming gambling addicts and impulse buyers", "That is definitely not something the SEC would care about. The collectibles aren't securities, I'd be shocked if this would even be something they have jurisdiction over.", "Yeah, I can hear the echoes through the asylum walls from here. Can you ask the orderly to pad your room a little more?", "> And? Reddit isn’t made for kids, so why does it matter that it sucks ass?\n\nThere are plenty of kids on here. Take any platform you want for kids - they're all going to do the same.\n\n>because telling people which shitty pedo studios they should avoid developing for is in fact relevant to development?\n\nWell, you're assuming that firstly, those particular studios in fact are what the users are claiming they are, and also that it is development related. Taking a look at the forums, there isn't a \"report this studio for bad practices\" forum. They're not ratings forums. They're there to help people develop their games.\n\n>Oh well I guess to some people kids getting groomed and sexually harassed isn’t as important as some retard who can’t figure out why code that he copied from a tutorial made 20 years ago doesn’t work\n\nWhat a nonsense argument. If such a thing is happening there are many resources in place for someone to report that....Like you know, the police.\n\n>Roblox is a platform made for and marketed for KIDS.\n\nAh yes, because I mentioned kids at no time in my response.\n\n>Designing a platform that you know is full of kids so that said kids can easily be exploited (While filling your pockets too) with what are essentially gambling games is negligent at best.\n\nThe typical reddit \"every game I don't like is gambling!\" response.\n\n>Because it’s platform dominated by big studios by design.\n\nThat's not a reason to develop a chat service.\n\n>It also made, marketed and dominated by kids.\n\nThat is ESPECIALLY a reason to not make a chat service.\n\n> Not adding a platform where communication can happen is just asking for said kids to go to shitty platforms and then inevitably get pedo-ed.\n\nAnd it all comes back to the parents. What are they doing? Why aren't they being involved in their childs online presence? Why are they letting their child go talk to 24 year olds and get harassed by them?", "Early on wasn’t Roblox having tons of issues with pedos too?", "Oh man, there's another one!\n\nImagine outing yourself as an incel in a thread about roblox, is this 2016??", "Lord of the Flies vibes...", "No worries! Now we just need Matt to do something for PMG and then it all gets as confusing as possible.", "That guy you're replying to isn't the one who called Shapiro a Nazi", "You guy's need to lean on Gucchi and any other name brands involved.", "In your head: Chad\n\nIn reality: Brainlet", "Just the pedos that play the games to get with children", "My kid started talking about Spain and ordered Spanish flags to hang in his room and then started bringing up Nazis and dictatorship. Can this be the cause?", "Still is, it seems like if you run one of those communities you either have radical right wing sympathies, like to nonce on kids, or both.", "I mean, most gaming companies arent working on adding NFTs, and of those that do most of them are probably trying to cash in on the hype", "Well whatever is the reason they names their ideology that, that is the name of their ideology. Noone disputes the naming of Greenland despite it being named so to trick people because that's the name.", "You say all of this, but people's brains turn off whenever it's about children. People expect children to be incapable of everything and just be content with sitting in a sterilized padded room to protect them from everything. Kids are naive and do stupid shit, but that's also how they learn.", "Absolutely. Tbh, it's more that while I don't like roblox, it seems like people on here seem to have a massive hate on for it because of what third parties are doing with it. I get that there is a component of responsibility in that they are failing to moderate as effectively as they should, but some people seem to think that it's literally some kind of nazi training camp or something when it's more like discord or twitch or something.", "That happens a lot, their servers suck and are always under constant repair.", "The liberal party of Australia is not socially liberal but it is economically liberal. Also I never claimed nazism = socialism (except strasserism but that's besides the point) i claimed that nazism = national socialism. National socialism != socialism.", "How is it exploitation?", "I couldn’t agree more. What better place for children to learn and play than a low stakes environment such as this one?", "That kind of depends, but it might very well be. If I was a parent dealing with this, I'd recommend treating it with nuance, since it could just be something new that he's learned; what kind of things does he bring up? It's fine to be interested in historical things, but if he's a kid, it might be that he's not looking at it with historical nuance.\n\nThere was a lad in that Rome group who was pushed into the Roman religious pantheon by it's leader, to the extent that he bought a ton of literature for researching it. Thankfully that was relatively innocent by itself (he was simply larping a priest), but obviously what it was used for by the person above him was not. If you've got any more info, more than happy to help :)", "The party is \"National Socialist German Workers' Party/Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei,\".\nThe ideology is \"National Socialism/Nationalsozialismus\".\nIt's not wrong to call a nazism as fascism but I feel it's useful to be more specific.", "Ah yes, just throw on this nearly 40 minute video in the background while you're working and trying to be productive on a Monday morning.", "Ah, we finally agree on something!", "Man, joining a gaming clan really changed since my time", "The word incel has no meaning anymore apparently.", "I thought it was a good video but this was shoddy journalism mate. The entire thing sounded much more like an attack campaign then journalism. I get you were trying to show how bad everything was but the entire video was incredibly biased. \n\nLike every time Roblox obviously took a step to rectify an issue you just illustrated was really bad on Roblox’s platform you either just ignored it or tried to say that doing that was even worse. example: pedophilia on their forums -> roblox gets rid of forums-> now it’s happening on discord-> somehow roblox’s fault. \n\nI don’t know how you expect roblox to prevent users from using discord…\n\nA lot of shit is wrong with roblox and this video did highlight some of that but the whole video was so incredibly forced and biased it’s hard not to be skeptical at the seriousness of some of your claims.", "Unless the pregnancy was unplanned I fail to understand why people are having children if they don't have time to raise them and that necessitates you spending time with them doing activities and making sure that they are not getting on the Internet doing s*** they're not supposed to", "So, you gonna tell us what's so good about GamerGate or are you going to continue coming off like a crazy person?\n\nTell me how it changed your life for the better, what gave you the conviction to go online and make a fool of yourself for something you won't even display the banner for.\n\nI'm baffled that somebody just wants to be associated with GamerGate but won't say anything about it, won't try and put forth a debate, won't acknowledge that they haven't said anything of substance and still continues to think they're on top on in the situation.\n\nI'm reminded of why I don't like talking to people about NFTs, they can't say anything about them other than they think it makes them cool lmao.\n\nDo you think being a GamerGater makes you cool?", "National Socialism only got its name because of the name of the political party. It was just named after the political party, it wasn't an ideology independent of that. Nazism is a form of fascism, but not all fascism is Nazism.", "I don't really see the problem with the secondary market of reselling limited time cosmetics. Also calling RMT websites 'illegal' is disingenuous, its not illegal. I'd trust PlayerAuctions more than a lot of other websites with my information.", "It's the vibe you give off.", "Where? I have a really old account with lots of valuables and I wouldn’t mind selling it tbh", "Socialists don't like it when you associate that form of authoritarian control of the economy with their prefered version of authoritarian control over the economy.", "Probably, made by somebody who did not want their kids", "What is this swamp donkey English lmao\n\nI'm gonna assume you're some kid in rural Croatia or something for the sake of my sanity.", "I'm starting to realize that a lot of these parents just use video games as a means to babysit instead of paying attention to their children so of course they're not going to want to put any kind of time into learning something for the sake of their kids", "Check out /r/toiletpaperusa", "After watching the latest LTT rig build Im not surprised about the type of people Roblox attracts.", "Roblox is the platform in which these users originally met and continued to collaborate in. What Discord does or does not do is also their responsibility. However in this case it is not discussed whether or not it was reported to them and if any action was subsequently taken. The fact remains that one roblox user was sexual harassing another user , a minor at that. If this was reported to Roblox then they have a duty to protect their user and determine a course of action. \n\nAll of the people here defending Roblox are all about them going about business as usual and how this isn't child labor and it works just like any company does so it's not immoral or wrong. But you turn to the other rules of business and those same defenders of Roblox are now adamant that they dont need to abide by the rules of business like protecting employees from abuse and harassment. If I started texting my coworker shit like \"I want to fuck you\" and continued that line of talk, that's harassment, whether I use a company form of communication or not. My phone carrier isn't going to get in trouble for not doing anything. That's not how it works. My employer would step in and determine a course of action to reprimand me and protect the individual being harassed. So why does Roblox get a pass and all you people say to put it on to Discord.\n\nDefending Roblox in this scenario is simply you being contrarian. You're picking a fight just to pick a fight and you can tell because of the pivoting stance I just pointed out above. \"Roblox is just any other business and this is fine!\" But two minutes later \"This business rule doesn't apply to Roblox because it's not like other businesses\"", "I guess bettering oneself is just not something that we do in the United States", "Heads up your nephew is possibly being indoctrinated by a fascist group, you sister needs to check into that", "WIZARD!", "And nobody said it was the most common.......\n\nLol at you all and your required absolutes for everything.......", "You're right, it's not a euphemism, it's more typically called a red herring.", "this is disgusting. it should be on the eth blockchain instead so I can pay gas fees too", "There’s a lot of issues with roblox but there’s also a huge issue with expecting roblox to parent your kid for you. If your 11 yr kid ends up on some shady discord where they are being groomed then I would say you definitely have to take responsibility for that.", "> Like Fox or CNN level bad.\n\nthis might actually be a compliment as they are two of the biggest news networks", "They obviously don't want you dirtying up their word lol.....", "I don't know why you are being downvoted, it's a legitimate question that bares a legitimate answer.\n\nYou're right, it was investable in the sense that they had a business model that made money and they were a very expandable business (that could do so with funding from the IPO).\n\nWith companies I look to buy for my own personal portfolio the biggest question I always ask is, will they be here in 10 years. After that it's, will they be bigger or smaller (as the world population grows). More decisions on which one (of this large cluster of companies) to buy into is based on current revenue and revenue projections. If I wanted to make a quick buck I'd just try and buy into every single IPO in the morning and sell them in the evening.\n\nI worry with the liability of a client base that Roblox has that it might not be around in ten years. I worry that having this largely unregulated market operate means that they are going to be prime for regulatory bodies to deep dive into them.... and at that point a lot of their revenue just vanishes.\n\n[Valve](https://gameranx.com/updates/id/61495/article/valve-being-sued-for-running-an-illegal-online-gambling-market/) was hit with a class action (that they lost) over illegal gambling and trading on their platform using CS:GO skins. That wasn't a big part of their revenue so they were happy to kiss it good bye. But for Roblox... that's basically all of their revenue.\n\n[Steam has also taken action against crypto and NFT games](https://venturebeat.com/2021/10/15/steam-reportedly-blocks-cryptocurrency-and-nft-games/)... which just look good for a company that make 100% of its money from having a monopoly on exchange rates of a digital currency (more expensive to sell than to buy!)", "Yup", "Now you can join a gaming klan. Gotta catch em young, indoctrinate them early and often.", "> Roblox is the platform in which these users originally met and continued to collaborate in.\n\nThey met there, but the communication didn't happen there. It happened on other platforms.\n\n>However in this case it is not discussed whether or not it was reported to them and if any action was subsequently taken. The fact remains that one roblox user was sexual harassing another user , a minor at that. If this was reported to Roblox then they have a duty to protect their user and determine a course of action.\n\nA report was given to Roblox about something that didn't happen on their platform. So they have no means to verify, no means to investigate, and you expect them to do what exactly? You talk about their duty to protect their user, but neglect to realize that they have a duty to protect BOTH users. Banning one because they were given something without any ability to verify it does not give them license to terminate a user.\n\n>All of the people here defending Roblox are all about them going about business as usual and how this isn't child labor and it works just like any company does so it's not immoral or wrong.\n\nNo, it seems you just don't like the distinction. Roblox isn't responsible for things it has no control over. I don't hold you liable for car accidents that occur in front of your home. I don't hold you accountable for your neighbor having a meth lab. I don't hold Roblox accountable for harassment which occurred on a platform they have no control over.\n\n>If I started texting my coworker shit like \"I want to fuck you\" and continued that line of talk, that's harassment, whether I use a company form of communication or not.\n\nBecause you are both employees of that business. Roblox isn't employing any of these people. It's interesting that you make this argument, because in the case of this harassment there is a company that is responsible, and it's not Roblox. It is the company owned by the harasser! So yes, there is a company that needs to step up, and both morally and legally, it isn't Roblox.\n\n>So why does Roblox get a pass and all you people say to put it on to Discord.\n\nBecause Roblox has no part in this. If a dude followed you home from the grocery store and started stalking you, would you accuse the grocery store of doing something improper? \n\n>Defending Roblox in this scenario is simply you being contrarian.\n\nIt's about defending what is both legal and what is right. Roblox doesn't bear responsibility for things they don't control just as you don't bear responsibility for things you don't control.\n\n>\"Roblox is just any other business and this is fine!\" But two minutes later \"This business rule doesn't apply to Roblox because it's not like other businesses\"\n\nI've never said either of those things. But it's always nice to have a strawman thrown up when you have nothing better to say.", "What I don't understand is how come companies aren't taking roblox to town on copyright infringement? I mean you have a pedo who is the lead developer of a Sonic the Hedgehog ripoff or other people selling name brand crap on the roblox store. I imagine that would shut them down quite quick. Hell I've seen my nephew play so many Marvel roblox games that I'm honestly surprised Disney hasn't said anything.", "It took me this long to find a comment like this.\n\nIf the arguments in this video are to be taken seriously, then literally any community run server in any video game that involves volunteer/player driven moderation is suspect to the same abuse towards children.\n\nGames like Garrysmod, TF2 before community servers were removed, Battlefield, and literally any community driven mod all rely on volunteers. Some of which are literal children. \n\nWhat happened with the CS:GO gambling scandal is similar to this. People believe the issue in that case was that kids were given easy access to virtual based gambling. But honestly, how is that the issue when the damn parent who has legal control over what the child does. Willingly gives them access to a credit card, the steam store, a video game like CS:GO, and a lack of parental supervision to use all of those things to consistently gamble. At a certain point here, I'm placing less blame on the video game developer and more on the parent who is relying on video games to keep their kid quiet.\n\nSame goes for Roblox and Garrysmod. Both are games where you have literal children managing or contributing to collaborative community efforts. Heck Minecraft is another prime example since there are plenty of young entrepreneurs there legitimately learning of real world experiences. I'm certain that if you're a parent that's allowing your child to spend that much time contributing their own personal free time into a video game; the problem is less with the game and more about the parent allowing the kid to do that. Either that or the parent has made the conscious decision to notice how this is no different from how modern day internships/training courses work and that the scale of harm that could come to their child is exponentially small.\n\nIn a similar case with twisted sister, the music industry, and the government back when they made the parental guidance warning. The parents and general public viewed these bands as being satanic cults meant to brainwash their children. [But really it's just other people applying their own twisted viewpoints onto others](https://youtu.be/S0Vyr1TylTE). Skip to 21:00 if you want to see the general opinion of parents finding their kids on Roblox nowadays.\n\nPeople have constantly tried to blame others for their own parenting mistakes. And this seems to be the same case here.\n\nTl;Dr: your kids aren't actually being horribly ruined by Roblox if you'd actually be a decent parent for once. Ya know, teach them about strangers on the internet; maybe if they get scammed then talk to them about why that is. But naw, people want to avoid that as much as possible cause they gotta nanny their kid instead of letting them learn.", "2020 riots and burnings of small private businesses in cities across America taught the rest of us to feel the same exact way about how pervasive the culture of far left politics was........\n\nThe fact that so many of you can't see why it may look like that is even scarier......", "With all due respect, I don't see how what to name the ideolofy is relevant to whether the party is named after the ideology or vice versa.\nAgreed on the second point.", "Okay, then don’t use “nazi” either because it literally means the same thing. Call them hitlerites or something", "Lmao.....", "Not anymore...... As of about 10 months ago", "Isn't that how devs make money though? Selling their robux back to roblox?", "FBI...... Centimeters..... \n\nI suppose you could be from a different country, but that's still a pretty odd thing to say from somebody living in a place where the FBI operates.....", "sigh\n\nplenty of people realise that both the far left and far right and utter muppets and need their heads knocking together\n\ny'all turn to extremism to deal with nonexistent problems that you've been told by muppets selling their opinions, and dipping as soon as it's more profitable elsewhere", "Yeah the memes do be dank at least lol", "el clasico roblox", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zem5bQ4SzMI", "How about getting through the bloody video before commenting", "I feel like the video mentions a lot of bad things and garbage situations that are made worse because they involve children .. but I just can't reasonably pin almost anything in this video on Roblox outside of maybe the stolen assets being surfaced in the official tool. Even if I would agree that I would love someone to do something about almost all of it.\n\nThis could of ended up being a really great piece that dove into the weird grey areas that exists across the internet where connections between people can live over 5 different platforms, multiple screen names, multiple personas, lack of oversight or lack of ability to act due to scale or sensitivity of topics or optics .. or just a look at the overall exploitation and abuse that is shielded by what the internet, not any one platform, creates an opportunity for.\n\nInstead it leads the viewer to the satisfying emotional conclusion that Roblox is the bad guy and demonstrates a, to use the kids lingo, boomer's understanding of how the internet is used.\n\nInteresting video but awful journalism. They knew the story they wanted to tell and ignored the story in front of them.", "A lot of it seems to be what their friends are playing. So that could result in a child becoming the outcast and not participating in a friend group. Its not as simple as not letting them play.", "They definitely are, but you'd be surprised. Ubisoft, Atari, and Sega all have major NFT projects.", "But everyone else is laughing at you.", "Wow. You’re a hero. Smh", "Super long; didn’t read", "Fun fact, Hitler had Jewish friends [and Jewish Nazis existed.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews)\n\nTurns out you can be a traitor to your own people.", "It could be. Ask them where they got into it? Theres plenty of far right recruitment tactics they use on kids, specifically young boys into games looking to be edgy.", "I was responding to a pendants nitpicking. Yes, obviously someone will call them the DPRK, but North Korea is what everyone else calls them. It doesn't invalidate my original point at all.", "Exactly, I've been warning friends with young kids that they'll have to look out going forwards, there are minefields we never had to deal with at that age. It's scary.", "Yep. The way it works is that Roblox takes a 30% cut out of every transaction denominated in Robux. So selling the hat for Robux is 30%, then buying a gamepass or developer item is another 30%.\n\nThe reason why this isn't actually 30% is that Roblox sells Robux for more money than it buys it back from developers for. I believe the profit derived from this is called \"seigniorage\". Since it costs around 1.25 USD to buy 100 Robux from Roblox, and Robux pays developers 0.35 USD to \"cash out\" the Robux, Roblox is taking around 72% just in the currency conversion which is where the real profit is.\n\nTo break down your scheme, let's say I sell a Dominus or something for millions of Robux. Roblox takes 30% of that when I sell. Then they take another 30% when I buy a gamepass. Then they take 72% when I convert it back into USD.\n\nWe get (0.7x0.7x0.28) = 0.1372 or 13.72% of the value, which means that Roblox is taking 86.28% of the value out of this transaction. \n\nAdditionally, you're talking a single purchase of millions of ROBUX here. A dominus empyreus (a pretty valuable hat) is a 27 million Robux hat. Nobody spends 27 million Robux on an in-game purchase. The most expensive games change thousands at most, as it costs $100 or so to buy 10k robux. \n\nYou'd have to \"structure\" your transaction and funnel it through a variety of games and purchases, but even then Roblox is going to see an account spending tens of thousands of dollars worth of money in obscure games that nobody plays and probably assume someone is attempting to funnel money out of the account; possibly assume it was hacked.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews", "He fucking is though.", "I need a tldr for this tldw", "The Nazis didn’t practice socialism. Why do you nut jobs still not understand facts and history?", "Anyone have a TL;DR?", "[Association of German National Jews](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews) \n \n >The Association of German National Jews (German: Verband nationaldeutscher Juden) was a German Jewish organization during the Weimar Republic and the early years of Nazi Germany that eventually came out in support of Adolf Hitler.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Comparison doesn't work. There are no political ramifications to referring to Greenland as Greenland.\n\nAlso their ideology is fascism. You are confusing ideology for party", "Charlie Kirk is without doubt a fascist, it's not even a question.", "It wasn't safe, but it was safer.\n\nBack in the 90s, kids didn't have cellphones and computers in their bedrooms. The computers were out in the family room or dining room, where the phone line was. That meant that parents could monitor what their children were doing online. That was the first barrier. The next barrier was that only a select few had access to the internet. Internet was mainly only available in cities and larger suburban areas, both through inability of access and the price tag of computers and internet services. Not saying the riff-raff are all in rural areas, but rural areas do tend to have lower standards on human rights. Finally, the last barrier was just plain ignorance of the power of law enforcement. The internet was fresh and new and everyone had this idea of top CIA hackerman watching over their back if they ever did anything wrong. Nobody knew that there was little power, especially as the population on the internet grew. There also weren't tools like VPNs to mask peoples' identities on the internet, so that helped law enforcement when they could take action.", "I downloaded Roblox once to play with Nephew. After 2 minutes I blocked it from my network.", "Here all I used to do was put on some lame clan tag and then maybe join their vent server", "Haha no. \n\nIf you think that's actual and good reporting you need to rethink things lol.\n\nA good example is, look up why Fox was banned it Britain. (Technically they left just before the ban but still). Hint: it wasn't because they report all views fairly lol\n\nEdit: this also doesn't mention (and neither did you) the entire second half of my comment lol, which was.. you know.. the point.", "Jesus Christ! I remember when it used to be just a fun lego game back in 08.", "They can fuck with any tech that is non-social all they want. I can't wait till they're showing me how things work.\n\n \n\n\nAny social game, they're only allowed to interact with kids who we can contact their parents. More or less, we've opened up friend circles to our oldest, as long as the friend of a friend is really connected.\n\n \n\n\nI felt bad saying no to open chat and discord, but there is no way an 8-year old is gonna navigate that stuff safely. I was about 11 when I got into bbs, irc, icq, etc. Discord reminds me of those, except I hate using it.", "Eh, I think you can definitely blame them for creating the heavy demand for those sites through their market that creates a strong demand for that kind of service.\n\n\nIn itself, the fact you can't convert currency gained this way to cash officially is worse than if they allowed it in practical terms, it just shields them from legal liability (they hope).", "If Roblox knows about these situations and does nothing about them they are definitely responsible.", "Ah yes, so productive as you're already browsing Reddit.", "Don't know how it is in the US specifically, but a former acquaintance of mine was a full on neonazi (full member of a neonazi movement in the country I live in), and he got investigated by the police and eventually denied entry into the military on the grounds of his extreme views. That was his only dream and last I heard from him he was drinking heavily daily.", "Yeah, doubt he's getting into the military. Couldn't hurt to call your country's equivalent of CPS or other mental health services on him, making sure to mention his attempt to drown his sister and his fucked worldview. Kid needs a BIG fucking wake up call while he's still a kid, or else he's gonna fuck with the wrong person and find out.", "Like the FBI is going to do anything. Look how many people recently they were watching or had reports on and they went on to kill multiple people.", "I mean whatever pays the bills. \nI'm not saying good more profitable", ">\tThe typical reddit \"every game I don't like is gambling!\" response.\n\nah yes because a game where you do nothing but open loot crates is in fact not a gambling game, my bad", "So when.does the CEO go before congress to explain this away?", "Browsing Reddit at the end of my day when nothing is going on lmao. Nice one.", "Have you been in contact with any political representatives? This company needs to be held accountable like Facebook. Ohh wait..", "IRC trying to get peon or Op back in the day as well.", "I got the same feeling that something was off. The game looks awful, not just the graphics, but the controls, the interface, everything. Seems like a cheap unity game, but it has too many players, so I knew there was something else. I suspected csgo style gambling, but I never expected it to be this bad.", "Long puts it is", ">..this really should be investigated officially.\n\n[It probably wont be.](https://www.dualshockers.com/paul-and-nancy-pelosi-have-purchased-10000-roblox-shares/)", "By that statement, I still wouldn't know the difference between left and right click, and would have never became a programmer. This is a stupid statement, IMHO.", "So you're saying when people compliment others, that they should compliment things/companies that prioritize profit over being good?", ">Edit: Apparently some twats want to get really triggered because I used 'National Socialism' and not 'Nazism'\n\nPeople on the left want to decouple the connotation of nazism and socialism. As a historian you should appreciate how they are not the same.", "@U/saagarenjeti maybe breaking points can take a look at this.", "Or even more basic....Bitcoin. Buying and selling digital assets is not the concern of SEC. They even have a digital asset marketplace (coinbase) on the stock market.", "Slowly repeat after me:\n\nNATIONAL SOCIALISM. AND. NAZISM. ARE. LITERALLY. THE. SAME. THING.\n\nNational Socialism is literally an ideology. Nazi/Nazism is literally an abbreviation of National Socialist/National socialism. And btw, its literally the word that everybody in germany is using to describe the ideology. And people in germany are pretty uptight concerning that subject for obvious reasons.\n\nBut leave it to some american telling everyone, including germans and literal historians what words to use, because he is totally qualified to do so. Probably conditioned to just turn your brain off once you read the word socialism, no matter in which context.\n\nFrom britannica, an english enzyclopedia\n\n> Nazism, also spelled Naziism, in full National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany\n\n\nAnd on the german wikipedia when you type Nazismus (Nazism), you literally get a 5 sentence article that is referring you to the article about Nationalsozialismus (national socialism), which is 20 times as long and describes in great detail how national socialism is the ideology that the Nazis followed/believed in.", "Honestly, it's extremely silly to suggest kids are only online en masse now. I grew up with IRC. Discord is the new big thing, yes. But it's absolutely not the first time we've seen similar. It's up to the parents to educate their kids and whatever other adults are in their lives, always has been. As soon as you start regulating that kind of thing, I mean it goes quickly from that to forcing people to register for online handles with real identities supposedly to enforce distancing adults and minors... I was a preteen when I chatted with all age ranges online and while predators are a real issue there's no all encompassing solution besides speedy response and investigation to reports, and trying to educate all new arrivals to the internet.", "> users use \"moderation\" status' to loom over childrens' heads and use it to get what they want from them\n\nSo like Reddit moderators?", "Roblox has an economy, similar to TF2 but its on steroids\n\n50k USD for some well known and most desired items", "I'm saying there's multiple ways to look at a statement.\n\nmany people watch both networks everyday and enjoy the content. what's bad to you is great for other people.", "Just play minecraft, not hard", "I watched the whole thing with my 11yo daughter. She's recently started playing Roblox and I wanted her to make an informed choice as to whether she wanted to continue. Since she's only playing games with friends, she's going to keep playing but be mindful.", "So it's like mobile monetization with even less oversight and mainstream awareness?", "And I hope you are paying attention and monitoring what you children do online. This is all that I'm thinking about when I see stuff like this, \"where are the parents?\"", "He meant The Sandbox (SAND) token, not S&Box.", "> national socialism\n\nIsn't that what \"nazi\" is an abbreviation of?", "Nazism and socialism are not the same. Nazism and national socialism are. Nazism/national socialism is inherently un-socialist - it was coined simply to get both the left and right wings on side. Nazi economic policy was built upon the war economy (ie. looting resources) and on loans that they had no interest in paying back.\n\nI'm genuinely bored of ideologues of both sides getting pissy because none of you can deal with the concept with any level of nuance whatsoever.", "Just pay attention to what you kid does online. Monitor their interactions, play with them, ask questions about what they are doing online, and even eavesdrop from time to time. Don't just give them a phone/computer and turn your back. Every time stuff like this comes up, I'm just left asking, \"where are the parents?\" And the reality is that too many parents let the internet raise their kids now, and the internet is not a safe place.", "literally, yes, it is\n\nlike is that concept lost on people? its really concerning that this isn't basic knowledge for these idiots lmfao", "Maybe whatever anti-terror task force your country has knockin at his front door to spell it out for him would help?", ">I felt bad saying no to open chat and discord, but there is no way an 8-year old is gonna navigate that stuff safely. I was about 11 when I got into bbs, irc, icq, etc.\n\nHaha yeah, I think I was about 10 when I started joining forums, irc, and myspace which is where I first really learned front end web development (html, css, js). Didn't take long though before I grew a fascination into network security and hacking which got me browsing some real sketchy areas of the internet back then lol. I'm honestly not sure how I'd handle my own kid in that situation because it helped me in the end, but there is so much potential for trouble.", "We should seriously band together to stop this type of exploitation of kids.", "You think Steam is any different? There are a lot of disgusting people on Steam, too. Hell, I don't even think Steam monitors TF2 or CS:GO as I've read some horrible stories.\n\nThe reality is, parents need to monitor what their children do online. Too many parents out there just drop a phone/computer into their kids' laps and let it raise their kids. Watch what they do online, ask questions about what they are doing, play alongside them, and even eavesdrop from time to time in order to keep them safe.", "That happens whenever someone on the internet starts imnotbothered.exe", "if the boot fits, lick it", "And they got in huge trouble for letting 3rd-party sites exist that let them take money off the platform. They have since cracked down on 3rd party real-money sale sites, and more and more games on steam are discouraged from using their steam inventory stuff, so I'm guessing its slowly being phased out. They also recently banned any games that involve NFTs or Crypto for the same reason. It's not the buying/selling stuff that gets them into hot water, it's the ability to deposit and then withdraw real money that does it.\n\nSteam, TF2, and CSGO used to be huge for money laundering because of this, and I'm guessing roblox has helped fill that hole in the time since Valve cracked down on it.", "Great and important video. One question, did you try contacting Sega about the Doc guy running the Sonic game. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are not going to be happy having a self confessed child abuser being associated with their brand.", "I remember I was playing Roblox once, a long time ago now, I was pretty young. Saw someone had made a building with a massive swastika on it. My natural instinct was to blow that shit up.\n\nAnd so I did.", "I definitely agree, I guess Discord made it just more centralised with voip, cam and chat all being in one place n all idk", "It's really more about the decoupling and connotation aspects. There are right wing ideologues who are happy to see nazism conflated with socialism because they want to demean socialism. You acknowledged the purpose of the name is to essentially trick people into believing the nazis were something they weren't. So why use the term when it's literal propaganda?", "Tag", "Here are pedo communities all over the internet. Are you going to be a terrible parent and make your kid play snes games only?", "Sorry but you’re a bad parent.", "I've always been a bit of a [misanthrope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropy) by nature. I mean I care about people and wish no one harm, but humanity for the most part is just disappointing and baffling to me. With that said I've always thought that if enough people got their collective shit together we could turn things around. That with all our faults there was still hope.\n\nBut with everything I'm exposed to on a daily basis I think I'm becoming a bit of a [nihilist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism) as well. Not in the sense that life is meaningless and we all might as well just give up. But more in the idea that we're truly and totally fucked as a race and there simply isn't enough collective will to turn anything around. More importantly anyone trying is simply pissing in to the wind.\n\nI've always said that the Earth and nature would ultimately survive any calamity we create. Our species surviving on the other hand is far from assured. After watching yet another example of man's lack of humanity I'm now kind of hoping for it...", "good lad", "It's literally in the video", "because thats what they were fucking called\nnational socialists\nnazis\njesus fucking christ", "Imagine if a TV show had a major plot point where a domestic terrorism group all met online through Roblox and decided to carry out an act over voice chat. The writing would be called lazy and unbelievable.", "> Someone looking to learn the kind of programming involved in Roblox game design would be more advanced than drag-and-drop programming.\n\nIn my humble opinion, if you reach a point at which you start to require scripting to achieve more advanced behaviors in your game, learning to use \"actual\" game engines such as Godot or Unity becomes worthwhile. Of course, this is also abstracting the whole Roblox \"framework\", which is fairly more convenient for the sake of allowing the develloper to do what they want within that framework.\n\n> It's weird to me that someone would consider GameMaker Studio obtuse, it's one of the most popular game engines in the world.\n\nIt was also probably the case for Shockwave/ Flash one point!\n\nIt's arguable, for sure, maybe obtuse wasn't exactly the right word... It's been a few years since I last tried GameMaker, but I expect someone without any prior knowledge of game development would have harder time making something in GameMaker, than both other options, for example. Although, it's probably a moot point given all the tutorials available these days.\n\nAlso, I love BYOND, but it always seemed to me like a cursed engine I didn't want to see the backend of. (But that's probably because I play SS13 and it's an overcomplicated mess.)", "What a terrible title.", "Well, that sucks. I was hoping the millennial generation would be more reasonable than the previous gens, but oh well.", "upvote for irascible. Thats a new one for me. And I bet English is your second language.", "Funny considering the vibe you give off is someone who uses buzzwords without actually knowing what they mean.", "1mm robux costs 10k usd. At 13%, 1 million robux becomes $1300 cash. My question is, how much robux are the top traders making? I only need the top because kids are dumb and most won't realize they won't become top traders. But i bet there's a thriving subculture of you tubers telling kids how to get rich trading limiteds.", "Don't be worried about triggering the current Nazi's. Misguided SJWs don't realize how much in common they have with Brown Shirts.", "If anything the video showed me why RBLX is my go to growth stock once growth names base out.", "Heh I've worked on SS13. BYOND's netcode isn't the best and could really use a way to decide on your own what gets processed on the client side and what gets processed on the server side. It's still under active full time development (somehow) so it has been getting better and could probably do more than you'd expect. SS13 is a legacy game and the underlying codebase doesn't take advantage of many of the advancements in the engine on top of being a pretty complicated simulation in its own right.\n\nI'm not sure how long it's been since you've used GMS, but it's not too far off from drag and drop itself, it's very beginner friendly. The learning curve is higher than other starter engines but it's also very powerful comparatively. I agree that most people should just jump right into a more professional engine as soon as possible, but to a laymen things like Unity seem a lot more complicated at first glance. If people knew how easy Unity really is nobody would be using Roblox in the first place. :p", "I feel like Roblox is like Michael Jordan", "Youre surprised? This has been a genre for years, the whole \"life rp\" thing and is hugely popular on GTA/Twitch.\n\nExcept for the real money part I guess", "Fuck them kids", "Look who's triggered. A historian who doesn't understand how historical colloquial context is interpreted in modern times. I gave you a pretty straightforward explanation of why people didn't like the casual use of the term, and all you can do is cry \"but that's what they were called\". You admit the name is a purposeful misnomer and you're aware of its use as propaganda back then and today. Do you get equally triggered when people talk about the Byzantine Empire? BeCaUsE tHeY diDnT caLl ThEmSelVeS ByZanTiNe.", "misusing the word.", "That's probably about 1/3-1/2 of that guy's life.", ">'National Socialism' and not 'Nazism' - I'm a historian, and so they're one and the same to me\n\nIf you are a historian you should know better. 'National Socialists' was a label Hitler intentionally misused.", "Their level of understanding history is from Call of Duty and basically Red Scare level media. It's why SJWs don't see the parallels of cancel culture and pushing their censorism. They are even fighting over your usage of official historical terms to talk about historical events.", "Combine the scummiest mobile monetization practices with blatant copyright violation. I'm not sure how Roblox gets away with the copyrighted characters: note the focus of the video was a group who solely makes Sonic related games and that's just the tip of the iceberg. \n\nTop all that off with a bit of that YouTube kids content drama from a few years back (where there was strange, almost robot sounding, content farms) just to make it even more messed up. Blows my mind that they're worth more than Nintendo...", "If you thought any place or time is safe your an idiot\n\nBut the world is no less dangerous then it ever was either. You can't fall into the trap of everything is dangerous we have to let kids live in an isolated bubble just as much as you can't fall into the I don't care whatever side of things.", "I wish I had learned to capitalize on what I was doing in the late '90s. I didn't know setting up an FTP client to download sketchy things from deep into a websites directory want a normal thing. I don't even remember how I did it, but I had some trick for getting into servers and perusing. It must not have been very sophisticated, cause at one point it just stopped working.\n\n \n\n\nI pissed off our local ISP because a naively asked why he decided on a policy the way he did. I casually mentioned things from his drafts of the announcement that I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to have access to.", "wtf", "The ideologies are suppose to reflect the philosophies of the party to a degree. It's why communist regimes are called \"democratic\". It's not because people vote - but because the ideology is suppose to support the will of the people. In a communist state, there is no individuality - only the state. The people are a tool of the state. You don't support the individual, but the collective. That's disregarding the strong men dictatorships that arise from that thinking - but the ideology is inherently tied to the naming convention.", "By the exact same logic, calling them Byzantines or Eastern Romans is fine, and just shows how retarded crying about whether I use national socialist or nazi is - they both reference the same twats, who gives a shit?\n\nWhat, you want to call them Byzantines? You some kind of Gibbonist? You want Gibbons balls resting on your chin? That's how dumb it sounds.", "Dm me your username?", "And yet it still refers to the same cunts. You knew that I was on about Hitler's cronies, which was my intention, so it seems dumb to piss and shit because of it.", "Which would include alt-right and Trump supporting, and if you're going to label someone with two completely contradictory things, then why even make the comment?\n\nThat's like me saying you sound like a man/woman. A completely useless comment to make unless I don't know the definition of those words and how contradictory they actually are, like someone who just throws around buzzwords for no reason.", "I'm assuming because Atvi's lawsuit causing stock to drop and rblx has had a good year since ipo.", "Loot crates are not gambling. I can see calling it that when you can trade them for real money like CSGO - but games like Overwatch or others where it literally is just giving you in game items, it doesn't even equate to gambling. Gambling requires you to spend money with the chance of winning money. Spending money with no chance to recoup that money is not gambling.", "It makes absolutely no sense to not just call it fascism. None. You've even gone out of your way to edit your post but NOT edit the relevant wording. It would have taken you a fraction of the time to change it... and had many less responses you are so up in arms about.\n\nEither you are incredibly defensive and needlessly digging yourself in or have an agenda. Either way its a really bad look for you.", "Safe to assume any online platform/community targeted towards children will have to actively ward off pedophiles.", "They're doing better than ever.", "How is it legal for kids to create and sell games for tokens isn’t that child labor?", "They've had a good year since ipo. With atvi stock price dropping because of all their issues put rblx into the number one spot.", "What blows my mind (among other things) is how shitty their \"currency\" is, as you mentioned. IIRC, you can't even 'withdraw', or transfer it into real money, you need a certain amount first. So, you would need like 100RBX before you can even \"withdraw\" or deposit your earnings. If you have 99RBX? Same thing as having nothing until you get one more RBX.\n\nI could be wrong, but this blows my mind with straight up how shitty that is. It's a huge roadblock on devs accessing their earnings for literally NO reason. There is not a single good reason they shouldn't just be able to transfer whatever, maybe have a minimum be 5RBX or something to prevent spam.", "Like everyone else I'm kicking myself for not buying at ipo", "Damn. \n\nWell I guess we just have to hope a senator's son accidentally gets $10,000 charged to his parent's card for something to change.", "Too late reddit has a hate boner", "You must be the dumbest fucking historian ever then", "Haha that is awesome. I did similar back when people weren't quite smart enough to disallow directory traversal in their http servers. Was pretty thrilling snooping around some servers back then.", "It's different when your child is an adult and you're no longer responsible for their safety and well-being. The goal is to raise kids who are more savvy, adjusted, happy, and successful than you. None of that applies to your 8 year old kid. You need to ensure you're able to keep them safe (with a reasonable amount of freedom) when they're a child, and slowly adjust the balance towards freedom as they age.", ">By the exact same logic\n\nNo, that's not the logic you were just using.\n\n>who gives a shit?\n\nLiteral propagandists who want to push the crimes of nazism onto the left wing. Literal propagandists who wanted to, and still want to, trick people into thinking they something they not.\n\n>What, you want to call them Byzantines?\n\nIt's a colloquial term that was coined to more easily refer to the context of the eastern Roman empire. They didn't call themselves it. Even though nazi is an acronym it's used as a word detached from the National Socialist German Workers party. As an historian do you understand how colloquialisms work?\n\nYou want nuance yet provided none in your original post that has apparently caused an uproar.", "My agenda is not changing something just because you want to piss and shit about it. National socialism = Nazism. They can be used interchangeably. If you believe they're socialists, that just indicates a lack of knowledge on the subject. \n\nMy issue is you wanting to make it political, or trying to imply I sympathise with Nazis because I used 'national socialist'. It's the historically correct term, and you knew who I was referring to. \n\nBut you're right, the triggered shitlords in this thread who started crying over me using the full term made me dislike them enough for me to tell them they can fuck off instead. For reference, I'm a democratic socialist, and it's fucking laughable that you want to imply that I'm somehow a Nazi. Have a good day :)", ">By the exact same logic\n\nNo, that's not the logic you were just using.\n\n>who gives a shit?\n\nLiteral propagandists who want to push the crimes of nazism onto the left wing. Literal propagandists who wanted to, and still want to, trick people into thinking they're something they're not.\n\n>What, you want to call them Byzantines?\n\nIt's a colloquial term that was coined to more easily refer to the context of the eastern Roman empire. They didn't call themselves it. Even though nazi is an acronym it's used as a word detached from the National Socialist German Workers party. As an historian do you understand how colloquialisms work?\n\nYou want nuance yet provided none in your original post that has apparently caused an uproar.", "Holy shit man it's been a long time since I've heard about club penguin", "Seems a simple solution is to not let your kid play... \n\n-Boomer from 2001 upset about GTA 3", "Funny, I know very little about Roblox but somehow I always knew they were awful.", "I cant believe reddit is some how ok with the goverment stepping into video games* of all things.", "Maybe read further down the comment chain. I go into more detail talking to schimmelA", "If course they are. It's literally in their name. Democratic People's RepubliKans", "Wow I had no idea the Shut Up and Sit Down people had another channel that’s so intriguing.", "Yea that will work about as well as all of the parents who tried to stop their kids from playing gta when all of us were young. Same shit different generation", "We should just call them by their real name. Best Corea", "wait until you hear about NFTs", "Great parenting lol. Works about as well when our parents didnt allow us to play gta when it came out", "The foundation of the way Roblox works is patently illegal and harmful to children. I don't see a future for this company.", "> if you don't see the fascist overtones \n\nThat's not the argument you strawmanning moron. You called American Republicans fascists; an easily disprovable statement. There are tens of millions of American Republicans of which no official or otherwise implicit official \"fascist\" manifesto or white paper is part of their doctrine. That's why you have zero credibility, you're a drooling American leftist stuck in a dichotomy between right and left, white and black, fascist and anti-fascist. The amount of nuance in your worldview is laughable. You only post to further your agenda for your stupid American \"Team\", facts be damned.", ">Especially today when living off a single salary gets further away out of reach for the average family.\n\nA family being supported by the labor of a single adult has never been a normal thing. Thats an upper middle class privilege. Only time it ever dipped down lower was during the brief post war boom(so long as you weren't a minority). Otherwise working class and middle class families have always relied on either two incomes, or one income and a massive amount of money saving work from the wife.", "This is the dumbest shit ever because you cannot cope with the idea of calling them by their historical name. I used it specifically because it was a running gag in the community of the article I linked of the Romans preaching Hawaiian national socialism, but also assumed quite rightly that people would automatically say \"Ah, national socialist, Nazism\". The vast, vast majority of people clearly have. A very small minority of people want to fling shit pretending they're stupid.\n\nThey can be used interchangeably - if we want to talk historical nuance, national socialist would be preferable since it's the apolitical version of referring to the political party, as Nazi came about as a derogatory term for them. Frankly I could give less of a shit which one is used, but the amount of piss and shit some muppets want to fling over it because they think I'm attacking socialists made me plant my feet lmao. I'm a democratic socialist for christsakes. \n\nYou're not proving anything other than people on Reddit will argue over the dumbest fucking shit for no reason. If you believe national socialists are socialists, you're dumb as well and need to read up on it.", "How do you figure? What did they do wrong or what could they possibly implement that other platforms have done or do you feel that Roblox stands apart from other platforms where the same situations happen.", "How do you figure? What did they do wrong or what could they possibly implement that other platforms have done or do you feel that Roblox stands apart from other platforms where the same situations happen.", "I spoke to my niece about what Roblox was and she informed me that many of her friends have “old man boyfriends” who gift them items and things like that. I tried to use the opportunity to explain predatory behaviors and sat her mom down to let her know what I had learned. I wouldn’t let any child near this game after learning what it was like. I understand that things like this have been happening for as long as MMOs have been around (I remember “want to buy gf” from my RuneScape days), it just feels dialed to 11 as Roblox is concerned.", "You didn't ask?", "Facebook might as well give up, they've already made the Metaverse and all the kids are jacked into it", "I am not, nazism is a subset of fascism in the same way that democratic socialism is a subset of socialism. You could very much refer to nazism as fascism, but calling it fascism hides some details.", "Look Roblox could and maybe is a corrupt company but I still really enjoy the games people make in there and don't want people leaving because Roblox's faulty moderation and mistakes. There player base is great and mostly cringy but there games are some fun.", "No shit, the LDS tried this on me when I was a young’n in the early days of guild wars. I luckily was so dissatisfied by religion at a young age I dipped out instantly.", "1. Child labour is illegal.\n\n2. Roblox holds itself out as an environment for children to build games on equal footing with other children. It does not say \"learn how to code and then join a large company with no contract and work for a bunch of people who may sexually harass you.\"", "Top traders \"make\" jackshit since they only very rarely realize their gains in robux. They exchange items with other to speculate on price. Nobody is going to sell out as the 30% commission usually means you take a massive loss on the robux value (quoted robux values like RAP are pre commission) once you sell. Most of the value comes from hacking people and stealing their items and the massive inflation of older items due to the significant increase in the roblox player base.", "Nazis = national socialists NOT socialism. It was a label for the party, not for a political ideology\n\nNazism = ultra fascism NOT socialism\n\nUsing your same argument we should just call communism democracy because North Korea uses the term 'democratic' in its title.", "> Heh I've worked on SS13. \n\nThank you for your service. o7\n\n> but to a laymen things like Unity seem a lot more complicated at first glance. If people knew how easy Unity really is nobody would be using Roblox in the first place.\n\nWell, to be fair, Roblox is a game before being a game engine.\n\nSo is it just really because Unity is too complicated (which I think we agree, it is not.) Or is it just that it's easier to monetize and market a game mode to children already playing Roblox than it is to, for example sell them a standalone Unity game?\n\nIf its the later thing, the incentives become quite clear... Food for thought...", "Pretty much predatory folks with power. I just know the discord moderator thing is a meme and attached to what was going on", "I think you're almost entirely right, but iirc it's not 100 RBX, but 100k RBX. That means if you're not one of the biggest earning game creators or traders, or pumping cash into the game, you're likely never going to see that as cash ever again.\n\nThe only alternative is currency traders (which are banned under ToS). I had enough of the game and it's communities the other year, and the only way I could get rid of 30k (so that I wouldn't be tempted to play it again). I had to go through some shady middleman service to see it over PayPal, and even then I almost got scammed out of it. When you impose roadblocks like that, it means people have to resort to shitty alternatives.", "I never once thought of GTA as a little kids game.", "Nazism literally means national socialism...", "whatever im past caring enough lol", "We are keeping our credit cards close and disabling chat. They can play but don’t pay and don’t get invited to other platforms by pedos. I also play with them sometimes to understand what the fuck they’re doing. My daughter has a friend request that she wants to accept but I have told her no way. She has seen Ready Player One and I explained that the little girl she thinks wants to trade unicorns could be a 65 year old fat grandpa sitting in a parking lot stealing internet. She gets it.", "Genuinely sounds like outrage porn to me. Yes ptw companies like to make games for kids and get them to pay. This just builds an ecosystem for it so it's easier to develop and find these games. Ultimately I think it's up to the parents to keep their own money safe. Other than that, they're trying to pin communications off the platform on to Roblox. If I start a discord server to develop a Minecraft mod and recruit kids from public servers as \"developers\" and harass them, that has absolutely nothing to do with Mojang. \n\nAs for the \"virtual stock market\" that seems to be the same as the steam skin market and I think that is a great thing to exist. It not only let's kids offload shit for partial refunds but they also learn a thing or 2 about finance through it. The same principles apply to steam too but no one complains about that. \n\nI never played Roblox but I have young siblings hooked on it but they never spent a cent and they play it the exact same way they play Minecraft. The big Minecraft servers are just as shit, low effort and addictive as Roblox but no one seems to have problems with those. \n\nOverall I truly don't give a shit about being mad at random corporations for bullshit reasons. It's one thing if they actively steal but I'm not gonna care about them being laid back and hands off with their community.", "“I’m a historian, so they’re one and the same to me” good bait omegalul", "Other than being shit, nothing really.", "Roblox is pretty much the catholic church.\n\nBut in an online gaming platform.", "What does Nazism stand for, I've completely forgotten. I do hope it isn't a pejorative term for National Socialism, cause wew.", "Your whole argument is claim about 'correct' use of a label... and you aren't even using it right. \n\nSo I'll fall right back to either you are so dug in you'd rather make yourself look foolish, or you have an agenda.", "Have you seen the level filtering they do in chat? Did you know you can turn chat off? Did you know you can turn it on for friends only? Did you know there’s parental controls? Do you know anything at all?\n\nSounds like you don’t. So you can do all of the above. Works great. Pedos try to get kids off Roblox and onto discord with links or directions. Turn off chat and you’re done with that worry.", "How is it not??", ">Nazism, officially National Socialism, is the ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany. During Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Europe, it was frequently referred to as Hitlerism.\n\ngoodnight x", "Nazi is essentially a portmanteau of the words national and socialist. So you even saying Nazi is still the exact same propaganda.", "Imagine Minecraft with better API and every mod you made is monetizable. Roblox makes very little content and just \"maintains the depository\". There's every game imaginable inside Roblox; Fortnite, CSGO, Horror games, builders, etc. Roblox is basically shitty graphics Metaverse. However no one has caught on how sinister it is.", "You can keep them off it completely and then there’s no risk at all", "Roblox National Socialism, I", "You’re Doc aren’t you? Fucking pedo…", "For real, Roblox could easily add VR and better graphics and stomp any Metaverse into the ground.", "I always describe it as Minecraft for pedophiles.", "Read the rest of the thread dude. You’re a day late and a dollar short.", ">you cannot cope with the idea of calling them by their historical name.\n\nI already explained to you about the implications of the term. You acknowledged it was a propaganda tool. If you want to avoid confusion, instead of banal cries for nuance, use the term people are most familiar with. You knew what you were doing.\n\n>I used it specifically because it was a running gag in the community of the article I linked\n\nThe author of the article you posted uses the terms 'nazi' to describe what was going on. If you're going to wear the hat of a comedian instead of a historian, lemme give you a hint: running gags/inside jokes in one community might not translate well to other communities.\n\n>if we want to talk historical nuance, national socialist would be preferable since it's the apolitical version of referring to the political party\n\nUnless you include how the beliefs of the party changed after the Night of Long Knives being apolitical doesn't accurately describe the party beyond their own name. Using an inside gag doesn't convey nuance.\n\n>they think I'm attacking socialists\n\nFrom my perspective, the only time I've seen people go out of their way to point out the socialist aspect of the Nazi's is to attack socialism. You seem to be aware of that context, even if you don't care, you understand why people are reacting the way they are.\n\n>If you believe national socialists are socialists, you're dumb\n\nThat's literally the point of propaganda. Purposefully blurring the lines so people don't know the difference. Taking advantage of dumb people for the sake of political gain.", "Call it the HRE! To call it the Holy Roman Empire is to lie, as it wasn't any of the three! You must be a HRE apologist.", ">Nazism, officially National Socialism, is the ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany. During Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Europe, it was frequently referred to as Hitlerism.\n\nliterally from a 5 sec Google search\n\noff yourself goodnight x", "As the other poster said it's always been at least 2 workers throughout history. The big thing is that you expand your community of caregivers. So for instance we are fortunate to live near our families and they can help. But the biggest assist has been from our friends, and our kid's friends' parents. We share duties on getting them to school in inclement weather, the friends come over afterschool to do homework, etc. \n\nI guess what I am saying is that as a parent part of it is building that community.", "Great job with the video! It looked like a lot of work.", "their. You're welcome.", "Natsoc=Nazi has been standard knowledge across the world for over 70 years now, to the point even remote Nambibians make jokes of them. That isn't even worth worrying about", "specifically, \"Lego National Socialism with Hawaiian characteristics\"\n\ngod", "Holy shit lmfao", "That sounds exactly like real paintball imo", "Ha, holy shit dude... I seriously have to ask, are you just trolling, or do you honestly believe the bullshit you're spouting?\n\nI'm sure some crazy, deep state, illuminati group was secretly trying to control your mind. To the rest of normal people it was about a journalist boosting a game review because he was sleeping with the creator. \n\nAnd then the following issues became female game developers claiming any bad reviews they received had to be because people hated women, and had nothing to do with the quality of the game.\n\nOr women getting pushback because they were claiming rampant mysoginy in games... but if you didn't agree with what they said, you were a woman hating incel.\n\nI have to say though, I think your conspiracy theory sounds a lot more exciting than the truth!", "We use \"North Korea\" colloquially because we aren't bureaucrats and it's less verbose and an easier reference to make and understand. For the same reason, we say:\n\n \"South Korea\" (instead of \"Republic of Korea\")\n* \"Canada\" (instead of \"Dominion of Canada\") \n* \"Taiwan\" (instead of \"Republic of China\") \n* \"China\" (instead of \"Peoples Republic of China\") \n* \"Australia\" (instead of \"Commonwealth of Australia\") \n* etc etc.", "Read the thread, it’s not complicated.", "Easy, the undesirables were to be made non-citizens. Just like every country that tried to achieve communism.", "Nazi was an abbreviation of National Socialist. Nazism became the ideological brand of fascism they practiced (ultra fascism).", "I did read the thread, I still disagree with its content. If your language euphemism as as known as \"going around the corner\" or \"going to get milk\" it stops being a euphemism and instead becomes a synonym. That seems pretty straightforward to me", "LOL. k.", "Holy fuck", "yeah.. 'officially' by the Nazis themselves lol.", "That's a first for me but I would have to look further into HRE era policies.", "Ha, wow, you just checked off a solid win with \"Liberals can't argue the facts so they just scream random names at you\" Bingo card.\n\nThe tricky part is wondering if you actually believe the things you say, or just want the 'other Liberals will support me' upvotes.\n\nI sincerely hope for the latter.", "As someone that was a smaller developer and a small celebrity there for a bit, this video still only scratches the surface.", "I think your stuck on the fact I used the word euphemism to be considerate of the original poster. Fine. \nLet’s not use lies told by fascists from the 30s.\nBetter?", "I take it your school didn't teach reading comprehension skills? Like how does this at all address what I've been saying?", "Old video: Roblox has awful revenue share (game creators make ~17%) and is basically exploiting kids by tricking them into thinking they can get rich making content for them.\n\nNew video: Follow up on how Roblox's non-answers to first video, and new issues such as lack of moderation, underground black market, basically running a stock-market for kids, and how unmanaged \"teams\" making games are.", "And as we all know, there are zero subsets of fascism, and there is never any value to being more granular in our language.", "Roblox is creepy as fuck.\nFrom what I can tell there's bugger all filters or moderation.\nMy younger brother got me to play it with him when he was 6, (he's 10 years younger than me) and I got creepy sexual messages off some random person. Reported them and all but nothing seemed to get done", "One might even say you're a Nazi Nazi--like a soup Nazi or a grammar Nazi, but about what people call Nazis.", "Honestly repost this to wsb, with the right title this could shine a very powerful spotlight on the company and generate a whole lot of bad news. Tbh if Roblox asked this yt channel to take down it's video then some bad news cycles could be in the near future. Problem is timing", "I wish every parent would watch this and realize this is ONE company. There are 100s of companies just like this but smaller in scale. And 1000s of games out there all vying for the attention and money of children.", "dude im 33 and a network operations lead. i know my tech and i know roblox. whats unreasonable is expecting a 7 yr old girl to know how to understand the value of robux and the ability for teenage or adult predators to message her with inapropriate content. that game's a sesspool man. geez lol.\n\nsure you can say \"blah blah supervise them whatever\", but you think I want to sit beside her for a whole fuckin night of her hanging out with friends over kids messenger?\n\nI gave her the damn phone, she's educated about tech (because duh), and i have the right to keep her out of a toxic community.\n\nif her friends got beef she tells me. she's fine.\n\nthe point is that kids think roblox is all this hot shit when its not, and other parents should be thinking the same damn thing.\n\nalso fuck you i dont care about punctuation or formatting when on a phone. cause i know you were thinking it.", "You gonna call it the DPRK from now on? You call the National Socialists Nazis, after all. Or do you call it North Korea, and is it actually not that important exactly what names we use to describe these murderous authoritarians?", "But making a game should be a passion or for fun. Not working a job. It's meant to be for advancing a career and something enjoyable. \n\nIf sitting behind a fat fryer is the same as playing a game then I'd happily swap.", "gosh, I sure am glad no one has ever misused terms throughout history: millions of soviets dead fighting the nazis who am I right?", "Nazi = short for 'National Socialist'. A label the party gave themselves.\n\nNazism = a label for an ideology that came as a consequence of the Nazi's belief and practices ('ultra' fascism where race is inherent in defining one's nationality)", "That's an issue with how RWT transactions are handled- once they're paid for, it's individually up to the developer to track how it goes. I'm not sure what Roblox could really do without taking away developer control", "The parents are getting texts from their kids in the middle of their work days asking to do a transfer for $3.75, and the parent doesn't want to deal with a blow up when they get home so they just fucking pay it.", ">1. In my experience the only ones throwing around ‘national socialism’ are fascists themselves or right wing apologists.\n\nOr historians (amateur or professional), historical documents, reference material, and encyclopedias. You're just showing your inexperience here.", "I think this is just the internet. The hell yall think roblox is doing to create nazis? Thats insane", "You're stupid. If people who made roblox games made no money then everyone would complain about that too. People literally make mods for other games and get nothing for it but making games on roblox results in you getting paid and roblox taking a 30 percent cut isn't that bad", "I'd rather have a Roblox clone come up and provide a fair revenue split which would hopefully kill off Roblox.", "But they do earn cash so what's wrong with that lol, do you want them to say you won't earn money?", "Yeah, roblox changed a lot since it’s prime.", "Why is it called national socialism, it doesn’t sound socialist to me.", "I absolutely agree - passion projects are a great way to do exactly what you said.\n\nHowever, what if someone told you you could pursue your passion project AND make money? And you just have to contact them on Discord for more details? And the guy who contacted you actually takes a huge cut of what little money is made? And he's actually 35 and has 10 other people doing this for him? And you're 12 and don't know better?\n\nI don't argue that this model itself is toxic or harmful. However, Roblox's rendition of it is unequivocally so.", "Yeah", "TIL wikipedia has been subverted by fascists", "I was so relived when my kids went back to their original addiction recently. Thanks Minecraft?", "looking through that sub just now made me extremely uncomfortable.", "This is great, thank you. After I read your reply I did a bit more research myself. Based on what you shared and a bit of further education on my own, I am totally with you. I originally thought of Roblox as more of a risk-heavy but still absolutely gargantuan newcomer - which of course, it is - but what I didn't appreciate as much is what you are illustrating here. It's not so much that they are playing fast and loose - the second anyone with any policy strength wraps their head around what Roblox is up to, the whole thing is gonna implode. I wouldn't even short 'em, I feel like they're just going to evaporate one day.\n\nThanks for the chat. And yeah - no idea why I was downvoted either. Reddit is weird these days.", "Notice none of those are casual use? As I said before, specifically referenced academic or reference writing in context is not what we are talking about here.\nJust stop, you’re so neck deep in superfluous details you don’t realize you’re swimming in shit.\nThere is no point continuing this conversation.", "Shit, I didn't realize the J6'ers had a machine gun. I'm glad it wasn't more of a bloodbath.", "Indeed. I'm advocating taking away some developer control, and at least centralize a logging mechanism to track the whereabouts of in game items.\n\nIn real life, if someone steals my shoes, I can't track them. There is no such excuse in a digital world. We could totally track everything. Keeping a few days' worth of logs would not take up much server space, either.", "This is the first thing I thought of when watching this video. Really impressed with how much effort you put into taking care of your kids and supporting their hobbies. I couldn’t agree more with everything you said. \n\nIt’s a shame that this level of parenting isn’t the norm. I always consider once I’m a parent that I’d feel inadequate if I couldn’t do things like this but when I see so many parents that don’t I just think: “shit parenting must be a lot more work than I think, those people must be exhausted otherwise they’d surely be doing more right?” It makes me hesitant to have kids unless I’m sure I can support them properly.", "It's a nice idea, but it would end up with Devs losing control no matter how you slice it. That said, there's no reason roblox can't force devs to comply with logging rules (there's also no robust logging system built in! there should be!) in the same way they shut down games that don't comply with GDPR requests", ">I can think to my childhood of having a Wayne Gretzky hockey card and having a trading shop buy it for $5 (a $100 card) to realize that there's so much opportunity for swindling to happen and so many potential problems with exploitation.\n\nYeah I used to play some TCGs when I was a kid and remember the older people who played too, and reading this about Roblox makes me realize it was almost the exact same thing, at least financially, although since it was all in public and in open rooms with dozens of people, the sexual part wasn't there at least.", "Do you think European White people have social license to say n-gger whenever they want, because the term was made for those West African enslaved prisoners?\n\nIf so, congrats! This is a valid logical parallel to your argument. \n\nArguing that the long form of nazi is somehow pro nazi is a reach the likes of Michael Phelps and Ryan Murphy could only dream of, and I could very well argue you're doing free work for the fascists by obfuscation here.", "wait \n\nhe started to radicalize rootless white males because gamers pissed off about Chinese gold farmers diluting the game and blamed his company failing on Blizzard's ban of it? \n\nfuck this timeline", "That was my exact reaction too. I didn't expect to see Quinns outside of a boardgame subreddit.", ">No, that's not the logic you were just using.\n\nNo shit Sherlock, it was your logic. And you have the gall to criticize your interlocutor's reading comprehension afterwards. Pot, meet kettle.", "Based punctuation", "Once again, context. Notice the Wikipedia page also mentions fascism quite prominently and the page is part of a series on fascism. \nAs my original post alluded, it is odd to see ‘national socialism’ referenced without also accompanied by a reference to fascism.", "Yes, amateur historians chatting totally isn't casual", "Just making silly parallels.", "I'm a 14 year old who has been playing roblox for a handful of years now and I think it's worth adding that these almost exclusively happen on front page games targeted to children. While disabeling chat definitely helps it's also worth having younger kids avoid things on the \"For You\" \"Popular among Premium\" and \"Popular\" pages. I almost exclusively play niche combat games so hearing things like item gifting and \"old man boyfriends\" sounds very foreign. Though 99% of the time games are fine, I would suggest avoiding a game called \"meepcity\" like its the plague because it is notorious for it's parties hosted by horny teenagers\n\nAlso sorry if that message came off as condescending lol", "Isn't this entire thread a reference to fascism? Or did I watch the wrong video?", "I mean, my issue was with how you spelled \"cesspool\", but you do you. \n\n\nThat said, don't they have the ability to turn off messages if that's the issue?", "I have a story about a reddit mod because it pissed me off. I frequent the yugioh sub, and i watch a popular youtube yugioh series called yugioh progression series. This series has sort of revolutionized and popularized that type of content for yugitubers, and is probably the most popular yugioh stuff on the site. The short of it is they do a 24 pack box opening of each core set in order (one set per episode) and upgrade their deck as they go. Well i noticed discrepancies between what one player (cimo) pulled and what was actually shown in the post pull recap. I figured that he may have spliced footage to make those cards available to himself so he could play a popular strategy. So I made a reddit post on pretty much the only sub with any real followinf, r/yugioh. Well the original post got taken down, citing rule 1. Nothing in the post was against rule 2, but the mod told me it was inciting witch hunting. Sure, fair enough. I used accusatory language in the post. A few months later I decided to bring it up again because i wasn’t satisfied with how it ended, the post had gotten good traction for that sub but nobody in the community really acknowledged it aside from farfa. So i remade the post, but edited down the body to more suggest that maybe something was wrong with the pack opener and removed all accusatory language, trying to get dialogue going. Well the asshole mod pulled it and permabanned me. I asked him how it was against rules since it wasnt inciting a witch hunt and broke no rules, and he just said it was too similar and ghosted me. I still dont see why how similar it being could be a factor if it fully followed the sub rules, but fuck that guy. \n\nPost 1 https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/pxha5g/cimo_cheated_his_pulls_in_progression_series_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf\n\nPost 2 https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/r65ouo/weird_discrepancies_in_progression_series_pulls/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf", "I suggested we shouldn’t perpetuate their lies and think carefully about the terms we use. I did suggest that some people do this on purpose, not necessarily anyone in this thread. I didn’t suggest that the term specifically was pro-Nazi, merely that there was more accurate and better terms to use.\nI think you’re taking this personally, when you should take your straw man, poor argumentation skills and leave.", "Bruh the sexual messages aren't taking place on roblox itself. My kid isn't part of the groups this dude refers to. Exploited developers are literally in every part of our industry and it's a crying shame but this isn't kids only.", "My nephew asked me to play it with him and I could not see the appeal. I played for maybe an hour in some game where you build a store and haul products.\n\nIt made me miss the original Doom controls before you could aim up and down.\n\nThe controls were so bad I can't imagine how people would want to buy Robucks for it.\n\nThe graphics were somehow worse than Minecraft, but I grew up through the 90s and lived for the original EverQuest, but damn. I just don't get it. There are plenty of games that I think are kinda garbage, but I understand the appeal. I hate Fortnite, but I can see how people find it fun.", "Wouldn’t put money in a poorly optimized half life 2 era engine game that thrives of mobile game like clones, can’t scale to resolution on a lot of PC’s, treats their developers poorly and regularly shuts down from technical issues. Wouldn’t go as far shorting either since meme status.", "Wtf are you on about? I think you might need to re-read my comment because I was in no way defending Nazis or the Kim family. I think you might need to take a break from the internet, go for a walk.", "At least I'm not a Nazi Nazi Nazi. That's where I'd draw the line.", "I'm not sure I understand why Roblox should be responsible for developers. What makes it different from game engines like unity and unreal? It seems to me that it only provides a platform for people to make games, but how they manage that development is up to the individuals. You can start making games for unity at any age, but if you run into problems, unity isn't liable for anything that happens.", "I think you should re-read mine, because in no way did I even imply that you were defending them, just that you're inconsistent yourself, so why is it so vitally important that other people speak the way you demand?", "I thought they nailed it with their explanations of how Roblox are abusing child labour to develop their platform. They are essentially using kids as part of the gig-economy made famous by Uber, but which is even more prevalent in the digital space - where work can easily and efficiently be done remotely and in chunks. \n\nThe US government have just started cracking down on this, with their recent rulings against Uber meaning any driver doing \"gigs\" for Uber are now considered employees ([https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-us-labor-secretary-says-most-gig-workers-should-be-classified-2021-04-29/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-us-labor-secretary-says-most-gig-workers-should-be-classified-2021-04-29/)). \n\nIt will be very interesting to see what happens if a serious investigation is done on Roblox as to whether anyone contributing to the profit of the parent company are legally pronounced as employees - and what legal rights those people then have against the parent company (fair remuneration, work conditions, being able to act against bullying etc).\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThat's all before you even start looking at the marketplace. With steam banning games that use NFTs recently, this huge grey area of the internet will start getting more and more attention. A very brief check of the Australian Interactive Gambling Act would have me incredibly interested to see whether Roblux contravene any of the code.", "Letting your kid interact with random strangers without supervision is a really bad idea.\n\n\nIf you do give in, at least make sure your kid understand he is only allowed to play online games if you're there with him.", "ill spell cesspool however i want.\n\nalso yes, you can prevent them from messenging, but not reading the chats.", "They specifically state they were roleplaying as nazis, no one is \"triggered\" here but you and your shitty attempt downplay nazi rhetoric.", "Hundred percent this. You have to parent actively. It’s not a sit back and bark orders and rules type of deal.", "My \"logic\" was a parody of his logic. Duh. He wasn't an interlocutor when he ignored my point and talked about gibbon balls. Did you notice that part Sherlock?", "Then you're an idiot or your parents should have taught you better. You don't need to join a team. Roblox don't tell you to do it, actually they advise you not to leave the site.\n\nIf I play any game and someone says join the discord and I do it then is that game responsible?\n\nNo of course not. Roblox can't monitor random discord channels. If anything it's on discord not roblox for allowing servers to exist even though they've introduced server wide filters and monitoring.\n\nIf anything this just sounds like parents that can't parent. My kids know better and I follow what they do. Monitor their activities and I've enabled under 13 chat.\n\nParent's need to be more active in their kids lives. If my son went dad I'm joining a discord and making roblox games at 12 I would stop him straight away and get him to wait till 15 at least and I would help him", "Are you also OK with buying clothes/accessories if they are made by slave labor in a 3rd world country? \n\nYes the games might be safe/fine to play for kids, but you have 0 ability to be able to confirm that the development of those games was safe for the developer/team behind the game.", "I agree with this. I always learn about my daughter's stuff, mainly because I usually need to help her get started, or at least I used to. I learned how to play minecraft a few years ago just so that I could teach her.\n\nI've discussed the type of things in the video (not the programming for other people part, but the safety/risks of playing) with her and told her there are bad people out there. She usually plays it in the room with us and I believe that because we are involved and always honest with her she doesn't feel like she needs to hide anything. She has 20 friends and knows who they all are in real life. She also just showed me how she gets tons of friend requests from people she doesn't know and just clicks ignore and they get removed. I didn't even show her or tell her that.\n\nI did just enable chat so that she and her friend could chat in a game without having to switch out to messenger kids to chat. We'll see how that goes.", "This wasn’t even about the video, I just suggested someone use a different term than national socialism as it isn’t very accurate out of context. I should have known better than to make a suggestion on reddit. My own fault really.\nSorry if I came on strong in my first comment, I thought you were the first poster on that thread who went back and forth with me all day. My bad.", "Don’t fucking compare it to sweatshops. There are kids in third world countries who work in horrible conditions to be able to survive and it’s disgusting that they have to do that. Some kids building a level for their friends to play on isn’t the same thing.", "You know what 176 degrees is?", "What is with this boomer take. I agree with the whole poor moderation but if your child is joining discord servers and joining teams to make games then it's your responsibility to watch them. Of course roblox is gonna take a 30 percent cut that's not crazy. Steam and other platforms take similar cuts.\n\nThis feels super biased", "I don't see how I've been inconsistent, or how your original comment is about that at all. My entire point, since my first comment this morning, was that the Nazis misused language to mask their true intentions. They used \"socialism\" as a cover to get the working class on their side, and since then it continues to be misused when referring to the Nazi ideology to make people think socialism == facism. Do you disagree with that?", "Hey they’re a historian now! Did you bring your armchair to upstairs/downstairs university? Teaching a class in saving face I presume?\nIt was a suggestion, take or leave it.", "> I'm not sure how Roblox gets away with the copyrighted characters\n\nFree advertising", "Steam shutdown the gambling sites very quickly, and have recently also banned any games utilising blockchain or selling NFTs. There is also a fairly stringent requirement for developers to publish on Steam AND those developers are not paid by way of some generic currency that can be used to just reinvest in the marketplace. \n\nAlso, try and trade NFT's as a minor and see if thats as easy as what this video made out trading in Roblux was. \n\nContrary to your belief that \"this has been the internet for 10 years\", the internet has always displayed an ability to self-manage when issues arise that are detrimental to large groups of people. This definitely has the potential to fall into that category if it gets enough air-time.", "Couldn't agree more. Like it or not, the future is digital, and your child's first job is likely digital.\n\nBarring them from Roblox because it has risks, is no different than a parent not letting them open a lemonade stand because they might get scammed or waste their time.\n\nAny opportunity comes with risk, and learning cost vs benefits is probably more valuable that 80% of what they learn at school.\n\nHow different will your child be at 18, when they haven't socialized online, learned about scammers, sparked a passion in programming, or started their own entrepreneurial business? These are experiences that will give you kid a huge advantage in life.", "> NATIONAL SOCIALISM. AND. NAZISM. ARE. LITERALLY. THE. SAME. THING.\n\nWonder why people throw all-caps hissyfits and build great walls of text over which name to use, then.\n\nYou know, since they're literally the same thing.", "Saw this exact thing happen with my nephew and his parents. \n\nHe was holidaying with us, and he texted his mom asking for his birthday money early to buy some loot boxes in Rocket League.", "So don’t use it", "Now apply this to opening a lemonade stand, starting a game of kick ball, or building a tree house.\n\nLearning about risk and reward is one of the most valuable lessons anyone can learn. And we all need to learn it eventually (read [Antifragile](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13530973-antifragile)). Obviously, you want your child to be ready when they experience the real world, but that's why you shouldn't just let your child wander into traffic. Show an interest in their hobbies, and be there with them when they experience it.\n\nI'd argue that learning to socialize online, sparking a passion in programming or launching your own game businesses, have advantages that dwarf any of the risks presented in this video.", "Fuck I was trying to hold this for a least a year to avoid the short term taxes.", "That's horrible.", "I played Roblox as a kid back in 2007-2012. Back then games in Roblox were for the most part, easy to tell it was made by a kid. It was a lot of fun though because of all the different ideas these people would incorporate into their games.\n\nBut seeing my younger brother who started playing later than me, watching what the game is now-- it's no where near how it used to be. \n\nThere was something genuine about a lot of the games on Roblox back then, it didn't seem like every game wanted your money-- and for the most part nothing in the game was locked behind any paywalls, actually Im pretty sure I remember a point where there were no in-game purchases for servers. \n\nBut anytime I go back which isn't very often, everything wants your money. All these servers, throwing as much monetization at you the second you join. I can imagine as a kid, wanting to play something other people get to but you can't because of money. It's gotta be frustrating.", "Are you the same dumbass that calls North Korean the Democratic Republic of Korea and make people think you're talking about South Korea?", "Just making [dumb] parallels. FTFY.", "I’m glad you see it this way too! I starting looking at it as just “the playground” 2.0. Roblox is a giant playground with tens of millions of daily visitors. I wouldn’t let my kid play or interact at a playground without monitoring his time there. Just like my mom wouldn’t let me go to the park down the street by myself as a young kid. Getting upset at the playgrounds inability to keep out bad people doesn’t make sense. There’s literally tens of millions of people on this playground including your kids friends.\n\nRoblox can make a better effort but telling your kid they can’t play on that playground will just make them move on to the next playground that might not have a big scary video to warn you about the basic dangers of the internet.", "Still don't understand? It's essentially just kids making games for others to play? Most of these games that kids make take like 20 minutes and have no objective, most of the popular games the drive robloxs population are made from organizations who code them. \n...", "klash of klans", "> I try to tell other parents but they just don't get it.\n\nParents are usually the first to do things that they dont get \"for the kids\". Letting your child play on such platforms just because they \"don't get it\" is just wilful ignorance at this point. There are literal cults on this platform that have no restrictions and can do whatever they want to. \n\nThis video explains most stuff in good detail. I would recommend you share this video with other parents so that they what underground economy their children are being exposed to.", "I still have a baseline knowledge of programming and learned a lot of problem solving back in the day from making games when I was like 10-12. Never had any success with the games or anything but they were playable games none the less.", "> It cannot be the responsibility of Roblox to police employment policies of companies or people who develop games.\n\nIt can be the responsibility of Roblox to police development policies of companies or people who publish games on their platform, though. Especially when Roblox gets a cut.\n\nImagine anyone publishing a Sonic ripoff while sending sexually explicit messages to kids on Steam and Valve Software looking the other way while dipping their beak.", "Quins has more than one job????? WTH man.", "that brazen adaptation of pay to win culture and is just appalling.", "Nor is it any different than a kid opening a lemonade stand. We used to call this \"an opportunity for learning\".", "> What would you like them to say about third party trading sites?\n\neBay will suspend your account for attempting to transact offsite.\n\nhttps://www.ebay.com/help/policies/payment-policies/offers-buy-sell-outside-ebay-policy\n\nDoes Roblox do that?", "thank you", "That kind of comes with being a platform children use.", "the developer aspect of the game seems to be a small section of the community and one that actually pushes these inappropriate behaviors. Most of these games look like they are made by smaller corporations who are in it to make money by any means necessary.", "Despite the hate boner that reddit has right now, there are some very good reasons to let your child play Roblox. \n\nFurther reading:\n\n[https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/roblox\\_pressured\\_us\\_to\\_delete\\_our\\_video\\_so\\_we\\_dug/hofbh2q/?utm\\_source=reddit&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/roblox_pressured_us_to_delete_our_video_so_we_dug/hofbh2q/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)\n\n[https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/roblox\\_pressured\\_us\\_to\\_delete\\_our\\_video\\_so\\_we\\_dug/hof5rof/?utm\\_source=reddit&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/roblox_pressured_us_to_delete_our_video_so_we_dug/hof5rof/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)\n\n[https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/comment/hogeofr/?utm\\_source=reddit&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfgazz/comment/hogeofr/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)", "... or it was a trial run for trump. watch the cid or dont\n\nO razer here. now bugger off.", "translation: company does something legally sound but morally meh, ironic \"journalist\" profits by making a video with Roblox in title.\n\nNext up do an expose on how youtube profits from you profiting on storytelling about roblox", "10cm record, but from what you're saying the dude hasn't even done anything illegal, and certainly nothing to get the FBI involved. Sounds fishy.", "Only KINDA disturbing?!?! More like insanely", "Yea it's not like far right sympathies are common in the military/s", "I have seen corporate laptops with Roblox installed. These are parents allowing their children to use their work laptop for playing roblox. At my previous workplace we rolled out a group policy to disallow those apps. But at current workplace, Its again the same story. Unfortunately the new workplace is a huge institution and unlike the previous place, i don't have nearly enough connections to change that.", "I'd rather Matt did something with cool ghosts", "Sounds like a shooter in the making.", "It's not that he radicalized Gamers to spite Blizzard for fucking with his business, it's more that the experience showed Bannon how easy it was to whip them into a frenzy when given a target. He didn't join Brietbart for 5+ years after the farm went bust. Though once he got on board and started pandering towards that audience, Gamergate exploded within 2 years or so.", "Thanks for the kind words. The way I look at it, roblox is just the new “playground” so to speak. Just like I couldn’t go to the park down the street by myself as a kid. We shouldn’t let our kids play on a playground with tens of millions of visitors a day without supervision. With numbers like that there are bound to be some bad ones, but also your kids friends. So monitor them just like you would a real playground. If you just outright ban it, they will just move on to the next “playground” in life that might not have a video warning you of what is honestly just the basic dangers of the internet.", "There are already a couple of vr games in roblox", "not often to i look forward to 30mins of content on this sub, however with the stock boom in meme stocks, roblox one of them, this is very interesting", ">roleplay nations/factions in historical time periods/popular movie/series/book universes to your own liking, something that is only really possible in games like GMOD with far less robust developer tools, playerbases and sever capacity.\n\nThats one of my favorite genre to play and I always hated the rather limited selection of options we have. Im just a couple years older than you but completely skipped the roblox hype train and have never played it.\n\nAnd yes i totally understand that discord has a diverse mix of people doing different things on it but that isnt really the main issue here.\n\nRoblox for a company targeting children, is not only turning a blind eye to these behaviors and challenges that even games targeted toward more adult audience are somewhat more serious about.\n\nThe black market issue for one also exists on games like CS:GO but the fact that roblox targets children with ages as low as single digits while having less safety nets compared to valve/steam marketplace makes it far worse.", "Projection at its finest. 🙄", "I used to trade on roblox over 5 years ago, and I can tell you nobody is actually paying real money for those items. They're either owned by people who develop games, or people adept at manipulating the in game economy. It's sort of like the tf2 economy.\n\nOr maybe people actually do that now. It has been years since I've touched roblox. I'd be surprised, though.", "?", "HRE apologist.", "“I’m a historian.”\nDoubt.", "Here's the comment I replied to, if you're lost as to what we're talking about:\n\n>Are you also gullible enough to think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is also a democracy?\n\nHopefully the context is helpful.", "About 3.07 radians, or 80°C, or the temperature at which sodium bicarbonate breaks down into sodium carbonate, water, and CO2.", "I see you are without child.", "We're not out of context though, so what's the problem?", "When SOE shut down their Free Realms MMO one of the comments the CEO made was how difficult it was to to effectively moderate their multi-million user playerbase. Kids were terrible to one another, and Sony didn't have the resources to handle it, so they did the responsible thing and pulled the plug rather than opening themselves up to the sort of liability that it could bring.\n\nBut I dont think the minds behind roblox have responsibility on their mind.", "Dude this was my first exposure to your content but if it's all as well researched, unbiased (as much as possible) and avoiding sensationalism while still pushing hard against real issues... Well let's just say i signed up for your Patreon. Please, keep it up!", "> a wild west of frustration mechanic pay to win games\n\nand straight-up intellectual property bootlegging, which Roblox in its own S1 filing before its IPO said could be a risk to its income if pursued by e.g. Disney", "Yes, I know. Hence why it’s hypocritical to harp on people for using the term “National Socialist” when that’s literally what “Nazi” means. If you don’t want to give credence to the name they gave themselves then don’t use the name they gave themselves.", "A user query able log database like that would have to be seriously locked down, knowing whenever anyone logged into the game and what items every account has.... Thats a privacy concern too. I definitely agree that ROBLOX should have that data, but idk about making that public-facing.", "My son (5 years old) plays with parental controls on. In theory, people can’t communicate with him right? Wrong. The predatory parties know their audience. One character when he was first starting out had all kind of fun upgrades, and so their character really stood out. That person followed him around from game to game, until he noticed them and thought “they want to play with me!” He friend requested them. Now, they could see what he was playing and vice versa. Almost instantly, this person joins a game called “shoot your friends for fun” which is a game where there are clones of the characters you have on your friends list… and the only point of the game is to violently kill them. This is how desensitization begins. This is not a game in the sense that other games include violence, in this game, the ONLY point is baiting children into this.", "Fairly informative but incredibly sensationalist. Dude busts his load 15min in about how Roblox has “LITERAL GAMBLING” right on their website when it doesn’t fit that definition, even loosely. It’s not literal gambling but it is an incredibly shady market. If you’re gonna pretend to be a journalist at least get your facts straight. \n\nThat was jarring enough to get me to lose interest", "Valuations mean nothing nowadays, companies IPO (or list) at ridiculously high prices and it's actually quite rampant on US exchanges.\n\nAnyway, from this video, I'm less concerned about Roblox on the Stock Market, and rather the Stock Market in Roblox. I know they're only in game items, but I think they could be classified as securities because they can be bought and sold (indirectly) with real money (via robux).\n\nNow of course I am not a lawyer, and have no clue how any of this works (and how it probably also doesn't apply to many other companies that sell, resellable in-game items)\n\n##The Howey Test\n\n> The Howey Test refers to the U.S. Supreme Court case for determining whether a transaction qualifies as an \"investment contract,\" and therefore would be considered a security and subject to disclosure and registration requirements under the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Under the Howey Test, an investment contract exists if there is an \"investment of money in a common enterprise with a reasonable expectation of profits to be derived from the efforts of others.\"\n\n- https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/howey-test.asp\n\n###Investment of money\n\n> “The first component of the Howey test focuses on the investment of money. The determining factor is whether an investor chose to give up a specific consideration in return for a separable financial interest with the characteristics of a security\"\n\n- Securities & Exchange Commission v. SG Ltd., 265 F.3d 42 (1st Cir. 2001)\n\nWhen Roblox releases an item for sale, I believe that it could constitute an investment of money, as the purchaser gives up their Robux (specific consideration) in return for an in-game item (separable financial interest with the characteristics of a security). In this case, I would argue that a contract is formed by two interested parties: Robux and the purchaser of the asset with regards to ownership of the asset.\n\nBut wait, it's Robux, not money?\n\n> \"it is well established that cash is not the only form of contribution or investment that will create an investment contract. Instead, the \"investment\" may take the form of \"goods and services,\" Daniel, 439 U.S. at 560 n. 12, 99 S.Ct. at 797 n. 12, or some other \"exchange of value.\"\"\n\n- Uselton v. Commercial Lovelace Motor Freight, 940 F.2d 564 (10th Cir. 1991)\n\nBasically here I am arguing it doesn't have to be cash that is being used to form the contract, and yes, Robux does fulfill this requirement. (And bear in mind Robux can be bought and sold for USD and various other currencies).\n\n###Common enterprise\n\n> A common enterprise is a venture \"in which the `fortunes of the investor are interwoven with and dependent upon the efforts and success of those seeking the investment. . . .'\" It is not necessary that the funds of investors are pooled; what must be shown is that the fortunes of the investors are linked with those of the promoters, thereby establishing the requisite element of vertical commonality. Thus, a common enterprise exists if a direct correlation has been established between success or failure of [the promoter's] efforts and success or failure of the investment.\n\n- Securities & Exchange Commission v. Eurobond Exchange, Ltd., 13 F.3d 1334 (9th Cir. 1994)\n\nI would argue that a common enterprise is established by the fact that the value of the asset purchased by the investor is dependent on Roblox's efforts in advertising a known asset on its marketplace, managing the marketing and scarcity of the asset, as well as it's initial offering price etc.\n\nFurthermore, after Roblox issue the assets, they still oversee the exchange of these assets. If the investor is successful and decides to sell at a higher cost (whether to Roblox or an unaffiliated party), there is a direct correlation between the investor's success and Roblox's success as Roblox take a 30% cut of the sale. If the value was lower, Roblox would still take a 30% cut but won't be as successful if the sale was higher (in some cases significantly higher than the original price).\n\n### Expectation of profit to be derived from the efforts of others\n\nAn investor may purchase an in-game asset from Roblox under the impression that it is a limited offering and may presume that the value of the known asset will increase such that Roblox limits the sale of these assets to a fixed amount. Moreover, the investor assumes risk directly coming from the promoter, for example in the event that Roblox issues more of the same assets; this would increase the supply of the asset and potentially reduce its perceived value.\n\n###Are Roblox in-game items securities then?\n\nI don't know, like I said, I'm not a lawyer. I know other games also have similar models but I've never heard them be critiqued as securities. Loot boxes have had some contention about being gambling, but I think it might be time to start looking at virtual assets as securities. Though a lot of games do not let you resell the items (e.g. Fortnite), or if they do then it's only for an in game currency that cannot be converted back to a fiat currency (e.g. EA FIFA).\n\nRoblox allow users to:\n\n- buy Robux for fiat currency (e.g. 100,000 Robux for 1250 USD)\n- invest in assets with that Robux,\n- sell assets for Robux (whilst Roblox takes a 30% cut) at a profit or loss (but Roblox's fortunes from the sale are directly correlated with the investors fortunes from the sale),\n- sell that Robux for fiat currency (100,000 Robux for 350 USD - a 72% exchange fee!)\n\nIn my totally not legal opinion, Roblox is effectively running an unregulated currency exchange when it comes to the selling of Robux (via Tipalti), an unregulated securities market when it comes to the buying and selling of in-game assets (which may be issued/sold by Roblox, but they benefit regardless due to a 30% commission - and they benefit more if they can create demand and scarcity for items they issue), and have created scenarios where there users are unwittingly becoming investors of securities aided by price history charts, information about limited availability, generating and marketing hype around assets etc.\n\nIn my opinion these assets are more similar to securities than they are to commodities.", "As someone who’s been in and out of the clanning community for a long time on the game, I can tell you your kids aren’t being turned into alt right minions. https://youtu.be/BfkQF71qKNE this is what the majority of groups are. \n\nPeople make groups and raid other groups based on discord. Ratios are usually 10v15. It’s one of the most addictive gaming experiences ever with the mix of free cursor aim, movement, and raid communication.", "Not gibbon, Gibbons. Maybe that's why you didn't understand the argument in the sarcasm?", "Say what you will about national socialism, at least it's a god damn ethos.... -Walter Sobchak", "Piggybacking on this, I used your summary as a letter template which I've been using to forward to news stations. It's not the best, but I'm putting it down below for anyone else who'd like to use it to submit to their local news stations. Just remember to put your name in the fields. \n\n> Hello,\n\n> My name is [YOUR NAME HERE], I'm a viewer from [YOUR CITY] and I've been seeing some disturbing accusations by online journalist Quintin Smith who is currently investigating the popular video game company Roblox. The investigation centers around their questionable business model which exploits the labours of children on their platform, while simultaneously promoting online gambling, but providing little to no user safety for the minors on their site. I ask that your team look into this as this game is extremely popular with children especially within ages of 9-14 and I'm sure if you were to check with your staff you'd find a number of their children play it as well. I also ask that you look into this as there have also been instances of unmoderated sexual harassment and pedophilia against these children by adult users of the site and therefore is a matter of public concern.\n\n> For your convenience I have attached a short summary and links to the videos below:\n\n> A previous video on Roblox by PMG (\"People Make Games\", the channel Quintin writes for) reported on how the basic premise of Roblox, that it provides tools for children to make games for other children while allowing them to make money, was essentially mostly just an engine for Roblox to make money by promising false opportunity.\n\n> Roblox didn't like that and suggested that PMG should delete it for being \"wrong\" but when asked how the video was wrong, could only link to some blog some rando made responding to the video which PMG claims misrepresents the arguments of the previous video itself.\n\n> The video then goes on to list several additional problems with Roblox which have come to PMG's attention since. Most directly related to the previous issue, despite the vision that kids can make games for each other, actual success in Roblox's market goes mostly to collaborative efforts, encouraging developers to work in larger teams to increase production values. This leads to children either working for other children or adult strangers via off-site channels like discord, either with arbitrary contracts or no contracts at all. Roblox is publicly proud of the idea that games are developed by big teams for their platform but has no interest in safeguarding children who end up as part of these development groups. Roblox shut down their main forums, essentially forcing most of the community offsite to discords and other places where children are more vulnerable. On their developer forums, publicising bad treatment you've received from other developers is considered harassment and is banned, reinforcing a culture of silence that prevents people who have been subject to scams or mistreatment from speaking out.\n\n> An example was given of a 12 year old girl who joined a development team of a popular Roblox game and was sent sexually explicit messages from the adult leader of that development team who knew she was a child. Roblox ultimately banned this individual but his games remain on the platform and he was able to transfer the monetisation of these games to a shell account which Roblox has refused to ban. He continues to develop and make money on these games while the child was, of course, accused by the developer's fans of trying to ruin his life because he \"rejected her\".\n\n> Roblox also presents its collectables shop functionally as a stock market, with limited run items regularly released, and then only available after the end of that period by trading with other users for virtual currency or items. Roblox helpfully shows on the market how the item has historically performed over the past so users can see whether the value of the item is rising or falling, encouraging users (mostly children, remember) to purchase items with a view to selling them at a higher price. If this were in the real world it would be like trading cryptocurrency or NFTs and any system for trading it would likely forbid children from using it and put in a bunch of important documentation about the risk of losing money. Roblox includes neither safeguard. Note that if you make enough virtual currency you can convert it back to real money so there's a concrete financial value to this. [Edit: though apparently you can't convert currency gained from these sales, just money from other sources, but that's not necessarily an issue because there is a vibrant black market in the buying and selling of both these items and virtual currency with real money. This allows people to convert these things back into real world money or purchase those things with real world money at a much better rate than can be had through official channels, and despite their very public profile and long-lasting operation, Roblox seems to make no effort at all in clamping down on these outfits, and it's speculated that they are in truth a vital part of the Roblox economy.\n\n> TL;DR Roblox, a platform built to help children be game developers, is probably not a safe environment for children since success on the platform hinges on either talking to strangers on offsite services like Discord, or gambling on a virtual stock market.\n\n> Part 1: https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ\n\n> Part 2: https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaYl\n\n> I appreciate your time and attention in this matter, and sincerely hope that your team finds this issue as concerning as I do.\n\n> Thanks,\n\n> [YOUR NAME]", "I feel like it's mostly visibility. Although it's worth a shit ton, it's not as visible to the wider community as compared to something like fortnite", "You mean, I could use my mod powers to get a CIB copy of Snatchers for the Sega-CD?", "Having nothing but your comment to judge, you seem like a very good parent.", "Opens highlight \"Ah most people disa-\" Bass drop sound effect after scrolling down more", "There is a Minecraft marketplace. So yes you can make stuff and sell it in Minecraft for real money.", "We would also have accepted obtuse.", "Socialist =/= socialism. One is a label, the other an ideology. Nazi refers to the label... the ideology was fascism not 'national socialism'. They only gave themselves that ideological title.", "Thanks for sharing this it's very informative. Why would Roblox want to do that? I guess it needs a thorough investigation.", "rip", "True. It's kinda disturbing. I need some clear answer why Roblox even do that.", "And the article they linked used fascism, so why change it? Seemed an odd choice, which was my original point. That’s it. Didn’t call them a fascist, just suggested fascism was a better term than national socialism. Didn’t even say they had to use it.\nReally didn’t anticipate much feedback, but I was wrong.", "Is North Korea a Democratic Republic then? It's neither. You got owned, kid.", "Okay that one you’re actually wrong about, socialist and socialism refer to the same ideology, socialist is just the term for a person, policy, or group that practices or advocates for socialism. Nazis were not socialist, nazism was not socialism. They started that way (at least, their platform seemed to reflect this) but became twisted nationalist fascists pretending to be socialists.\n\nI mean, seriously. Just look up any definition for socialist and you’ll get the same answer. Dunno where you come from but that kind of misinformation is rampant in the U.S. — right-wing fear mongering constantly labels socialism as communist/fascist (which is already contradictory) and it does real harm to getting really good policies passed because it scares ignorant people into believing that voting for government healthcare is gonna turn us into the USSR. Please don’t contribute to that bullshit.", "if you watch the original video, you can see that these kids are way more likely to lose money than make it (even if they make MOVES).", "Dang, I thought Roblox was just another Minecraft clone.", "I mean, I hope that the tech industry is made up of adults, not children.", "That changes nothing overall about what has been said.", "Very very, VERY happy to see this posted here. The more eyes this gets in front of the better. I saw the original video and was shocked at roblox basically being a child labor company in plain sight that no one seemed to know about or be mad about. To find out there’s a follow up video, I can’t wait to see what else they found to report on.", "You're going to have to clarify why that makes me inconsistent", "You're on the \"videos\" subreddit. If you can't be arsed to watch the video, please do consider not commenting...", "If you wanna join a clan these days you gotta perform a real life hit.", "Or Habbo Hotel. Or the one Coca-Cola made that was actually really cool but they only ran it for a couple years.", "I was thinking the same thing. Most comments around here don't seem to acknowledge the seriousness of this issue and what the roblox business model means to the future of the gaming industry.", ">socialist is just the adjective for a person, policy, or group\n\nRight, a label. Not the ideology. I have no idea how you think this is 'wrong' only to go ahead and show its right....\n\nAnd while we usually use the label to reflect the ideology, there is nothing preventing a group from labeling themselves as they see fit. Nazi is short for 'national socialist'. A label they gave themselves, and why they are still called Nazis. \n\nBut they didn't practice socialism... they practiced fascism.", "> Yet apparently the term 'national socialists' sets you off. Why? They used it themselves. Other people have sinced used it to refer to them. The inherent contradiction in the name should continue to be taught in schools, and is, at least where I'm from. But as long as that's done, what's the problem?\n\nIt's not well taught in much of America and the propaganda and misrepresentation intended by the name \"National Socialists\" works on many people. Why spread Nazi propaganda when you can just... not.", "Its a shame too. The initial concept and first years were a very good, with an interesting and supportive company. Even the limited item market was a cool concept, although it did go wrong. After devex is when most of these issues happened, because the game became a free to play living for devs.", "In part, Mario Maker isn't sold to kids as a means to make money.\n\nRoblox has been sold as that explicitly, and in cases like the collectable market, there's an implicit selling of Roblox as a way to make money to kids.\n\nThis is aided by Roblox having its own internal currency that you have to funnel through the corporation in order to convert it into actual cash (which makes it akin to being paid in scrip), which makes Roblox profit off of almost every transaction I can think of within the game.\n\nThe first video People Makes Games did shows that people broadly do not make money on the platform, due to various systems that work against younger developers making any revenue. This also takes into account that you can't even cash out unless you have a certain threshold you've exceeded in earnings. If you can't cash out, it's scrip you can only use in Roblox.", "You call yourself a historian. Where do you teach and what biks have you written? Ever read Ian Kershaw or Robert O Paxton?", "I'm not saying it was a socialist party. I've explicitly stated elsewhere in this chain that Nazism had nothing to do with socialism. However, the ideology of the Nazi party was Nazism. You only need to read some of the scholarly literature on the extreme right to see this commonly used.", "Hey, maybe don't openly tie yourself to a movement of losers and people won't pin you that way. I don't remember the Gamergate group talking much about bedroom technique, anyway.", "Look up the definition for socialist. It’s literally someone that practices socialism. Now look up the definition for socialism. They’re the same thing.", "\n>Edit: Apparently some twats want to get really triggered because I used 'National Socialism' and not 'Nazism' - I'm a historian, and so they're one and the same to me, but don't insinuate that I sympathise with those cunts based on that. Actually laughable muppets.\n\nJust don't debate things like these in default subs. You'll only get into stupid arguments with braindead losers.", "I won't go into too much detail because it's an /r/videos thread about Roblox, lmao, but your position is incorrect out of simplification. I'm a political scientist who works on related topics. You're presenting a binary choice of the Nazi party either being socialist or not. This is an improper way of thinking about political parties writ large, but specifically for fascism it is a mischaracterization of the ideology's history. \n\nI'd recommend The Birth of Fascist Ideology by Zeev Sternhell as a great source for the history of fascism from a political theory standpoint. \n\nEdit: It's a bit unfair of me to recommend an obscure political history book at the end of this comment and expect it to be helpful. I'd recommend the following Wikipedia pages on the subject of defining fascism as an ideology. They are good starter reads, and indeed I believe they both reference Sternhell. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_and_ideology", "All they have to do is engage with the scholarly literature on the extreme right, but they obviously don't and likely won't.", "I'm assuming they mean children while they're still...you know... children. Not adults with careers.", "Why do I get the feeling you have trouble finding people interested in hearing about that...", "No a Nazi did, for purposes of propaganda and misrepresentation. Why repeat and defend the use of that Nazi propaganda, when you could just not...", "There is certainly some element of deliberate miscommunication: \"Hitler called himself a socialist\". But this doesn't mean he or the Nazis were socialist.\n\nThe other problem is that many on the right want to tar the left with the brush of Nazism, and so deliberately paint Nazism as a left wing ideology: which it obviously wasn't. Nazism is an extreme right ideology.\n\nEdit: I love it when redditors just downvote facts that don't like", "Yeah. The Nazis were about as socialist as the North Koreans are democratic. The Nazis didn't engage in socialist planning and certainly didn't root themselves in a socialist ideology.", "I mean that's fine but there's nothing inherently wrong with buying an occasional digital item for a game you spend a lot of time on.\n\nLike just limit it, you have control of the money, if yhey want 20 robux for their birthday why not?", "Personally, I use Roblox’s game engine mainly for fun. I’m not aiming to make it a job. So I’m fine, but many people are not.", "I agree, most of the things are outside control of Roblox. I don't know what is expected from them here (except for better revenue splitting for kids)? \n\nThe developer who became employee, why didn't they ask for clarification regarding that with the owners? \n\nRoblox cannot supervise Discord communities. How the hell is it supposed to prevent that?\n\nThe offline marketplace is an issue in literally most games like this, CS:GO, Rocket League, etc. It is very very difficult to stop it. It is an exchange between two people in a discord server (or some third party sites), how can Roblox stop it? \n\nAlso, paid skins is pretty common in industry and not just for Roblox. This is something for lawmakers need to fix because is the gaming economy right now for most of the companies like EA, Activision, Rockstar etc. \n\nAs someone else commented, this is basically asking Roblox to parent your kids which is insane.", "I believe I said this in another comment. It's a subset relationship: Nazism is a subset of fascism - but it is not a synonym and therefore there are fascist parties with no ideological relationship to Nazism.", "Yeap, most people will miss the entire point watching this video. \n\n\nWhen I was a kid I spends 100's of hours creating GMOD TTT Maps, building servers and communities with friends. We even had people who donated to the server so we could run it for free or a slight profit. \n\n\nI was not a \"Gmod Developer\", these kids are not \"Roblox Developers\" they are volunteers who get some pocket money. Also tbh, 99% of kids who use roblox are not developing anything, they are just playing the game....", "I think you’d be genuinely surprised by some of the games on that platform. Many of the popular games are not made by children, but people in their late teens to mid 20s. I don’t play anymore, but one of my friends is a game developer and he’s told me that there are companies that are coming into Roblox trying to make games.", "Hate Roblox, I won’t let my kid play it. I know nothing more than his attitude is shit afterward and that’s all I need.", "Sharing the etymology of a word is not defending propoganda.", "They're Nazis, the folks that gassed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Jews they locked up in concentration camps. They're not called anything else.", "Damn that’s bizarre that it’s basically a child labor ring. What the fuck. Kids get “contracts” to be free game “devs”, do they at least in theory get any of the money that comes from their games being monetized? \n\nI thought I knew what Roblox was, man I was wrong.", "Boy, sure is a good thing that the Nazis didn't murder all the actual socialists who started the party as soon as was possible to ensure their theft of the name was complete!", "right, but in order to do anything about it, the SEC would have to enforce those rules", "How does trading a stock support the underlying company?", "All I said was that there were legitimate points about gaming journalism brought up and it wasn't all about incels hating women, you're the one who just wants to label something bad with no nuance at all. You seriously think games journalism, or all journalism for that matter, from the last 7 or 8 years has been a paragon of journalistic integrity?", "god does Vent still exist?", "This is the problem with guaranteed money for birthdays.", "Did you know there are pedos at the grocery store? Guess we should keep the kids locked in the house forever.", "I guess the equivalent would be not leaving them alone in a grocery store \n\nYeah that’s probably a good idea", "I just wanna know how so many people utterly forget what they were like and capable of as kids to the point where these sorts of beliefs are somehow the norm.", "This is heartbreaking. I have a 2.5 year old. Obviously technology is unavoidable in today's life. I'm honestly completely terrified about her being exploited, not necessarily by Roblox (clearly she has no idea what that is), just in the future whatever the next, similar venture, in whatever industry. How do I be a good parent in a world where something like Roblox is allowed to exist?", "wait what did Valve do?", "The concerns laid out by this video is prominent in all MMOs. It's not anything new, no need to fan the flames and single out just this one.\n\nIn fact, it probably worst in other cases as custom content is most often not monetizable. (Think Dota 1)", "Lua is basically like Python which is also pretty useful though. ROBLOX does a better job with 3D modeling and physics stuff too.\n\nThey're both great really from a developer standpoint.", "At least Minecraft is creative.", "Most people know that Nazi=evil but that may not be the case for the term National Socialist.\n\nThere is zero reason to use any name other that Nazi unless you’re deliberately trying to make the ideology more palatable to less educated, impressionable people or acting as an apologist. \n\nIf either of those describe you, consider suicide. Otherwise, just fucking say Nazi when you mean Nazi.", "Good point, also damn auto correct", "This is literally what Habbo Hotel was/is. Another game meant for children.", "Fuck, man, do I have to reiterate our entire conversation for you?\n\n>Or do you call it North Korea, and is it actually not that important exactly what names we use to describe these murderous authoritarians?", "I always thought Roblox was just Minecraft for kids to have a safe space from adults …", "That you didn't understand the argument being made doesn't change anything? Interesting.", "It doesn’t", "Pertaining to your edit:\n\nUsing terminology that's easily misinterpreted by individuals on a variety of political spectrums, without clarifying information, is unprofessional and naive. \n\nAs a historian, you should be more than aware of how phrases can be misinterpreted, misread through a person's bias. \"national socialism\", to many, sounds like \"socialism for a nation\", equatable to the socialism ideology. As opposed to a name for the ideology of Nazis.\n\nWhich is why you are getting flak. \n\nYou also should respond to that flak by providing a clarifying statement instead of saying \"lol you're dumb, it's Nazis, I'm a historian, and you're a twat\". That just shows a lack of care, appreciation, and understanding for history.", "Unfortunately, not everyone is as intelligent as yourself. And children are infamous for being idiots, and parents don't necessarily have all the tools and information available to make even a minimally informed decision. Nonetheless, don't you think we should protect children from predatory practices?\n\nFurther, there's a difference between outside of the company's control and being willfully, maliciously ignorant. I strongly believe that this case is the latter rather than the former. Roblox has the resources to at least try, and they're refusing to do even that.", "Are you asking me to dox myself?\n\nAnd afraid not, though Paxton is actually on my list for future dissertation reads.", "First of all, you shouldn’t advocate suicide for anyone. That’s sickening.\n\nSecond of all, National Socialist is literally what Nazi stands for. When people say “Nazi” they’re saying “National Socialist”, they carry the same connotations. Guy in the top comment is literally a historian and “National Socialist” refers to the party. They mean the same thing. Nobody is glorifying anything by using the longer form name.", "Yeah, and “Nazi” stands for “National Socialist”\n\nNa = National\n\nZi = Socialist (in the German language — Sozialist)\n\nWhen you say “Nazi” you’re saying “National Socialist” and vice versa. If you’re claiming that “National Socialist” is the more palatable term then you’re just ignorant, because they mean the same exact thing.", "The problem is introducing the term 'national socialism' into a discussion of material referencing Nazis? That's why you're arguing like this?", "Hey, not my fault you made a mistake.", "It seems their meta research vision is as dystopian and harmful as Facebook’s.", "How about lego-ish with freedom to make any game and easily share creations? Kind of like old Roblox", "Literally yes. But they have to catch you doing it first.", "I only advocate serious consideration, I’m not interested in the outcome. If you want to stick up for Nazi apologists or Neo Nazi recruiters and are morally at ease, so be it.\n\nI’m also not interested in anyone’s occupation and it may be a useful distinction in academe but I’d venture to guess the majority of Americans don’t know what National Socialist means, which makes it dangerous in my opinion.\n\nEdit: widespread Holocaust denial is an emerging phenomenon and I think it should be discussed often in the most explicit terms possible.", "This is honestly sad to see as a player from 2008. I realized it wasn't the same anymore when the top games are riddled with microtransactions for 3 different currency types and every single progression element. It all went downhill when tix was removed imo.\n\nEdit: grammar", "I failed to see any gambling..? How is providing a price history graph gambling, I have a plugin that shows price history for Amazon items is that gambling?\n\nUltimately this whole video just seems to imply that Roblox should be doing something the government should be doing. If you don't want kids to be able to spend large amounts of money make a law. If you don't want kids to work for Discord users make a law.", "I don't think it has to be too hard. Set time limits on screen time and monitor what content is being seen. Never let the I-Pad/phone become a babysitter.", "> It can be the responsibility of Roblox to police development policies of companies or people who publish games on their platform, though. Especially when Roblox gets a cut.\n\nDo you hold companies like Steam, Epic, and GOG to the same level of responsibility? Are you blaming GOG for the issues at Activision since they host Blizzard games? Is Epic to blame for the problems at Riot because they sell games made by Riot?\n\n>Imagine anyone publishing a Sonic ripoff while sending sexually explicit messages to kids on Steam and Valve Software looking the other way while dipping their beak.\n\nThere have been a number of publishers involved in scandals on Steam. But you're going to scream \"No they don't!\" so let's name names. Jeremy Soule, who worked on Knights of the old Republic (still on steam) and Elder Scrolls (still on steam). Alex Holowka, who worked on Aquaria (still on steam) and Night in the woods (still on steam along with all its expansions). Let's not forget that Riot games is still on steam (Ruined King a league of legends story) despite a massive amount of sexual misconduct allegations coming out in their company. Chris Avellone of Dying Light 2 (still on steam). Ashraf Ismail - the director of Assassins Creed Valhalla....oh look it's still on steam.\n\nI'd also add that just like in the case of Roblox, none of these issues were sent via the in game chat - it was done off of the platform. Which is why Roblox isn't taking action. They have no way to validate the evidence provided nor did it occur on their platform. If I went to your boss tomorrow and sent them faked images of you sexually harassing me, would you believe that it would be acceptable for them to fire you without any proof or ability to validate those messages?", "Steam takes 30. Roblox leaves less than 30: https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?t=73", "Back in the day we just played DotA All-stars, Rise of China, Footmen Frenzy, and Vampirism on Warcraft III custom maps. Times really have changed.", "No clue why you are being downvoted. I see no difference here between this and Minecraft servers besides the regulation by Roblox. Minecraft servers are almost completely unregulated so cash is directly being trransferred from the player (child or otherwise) to the developers of the server. Roblox forces the player to purchase Robux, which is then split with the developers, and the developers can then withdraw as cash at another reduced rate.\n\nThere are the same online communities, black markets, discord servers, etc.", "You think someone would go on the internet and just tell lies?", "Again, the authors know very little about Roblox. You can't make real money off of limiteds through DevEx.", "I thought the stereotype was redditors were all democratic socialists.", "Don't mean to knock you - but fyi, a mentor guides a protégé, not a \"mentee\".", "Read through all of them, there are plenty of points about the state providing for the citizens and abolishing debt slavery and such", "I'm really high right now so I can't tell if you're being serious but if not like damn dude", "Surprised there haven’t been any lawsuits over the use of copyrighted characters", "Well, this is kinda messed up.", "I know a group owned by a Nazi wannabe who does online dating. It's fucked. https://www.roblox.com/users/95451097/profile", "Kids think of this “cyber-swag” thing as some sort of social status. If you look like a “noob”, then you apparently get made fun of", "This is just child abuse, IMHO.", "I’ve already explained, as have numerous others. Take the idea under consideration, or don’t.", "I don't understand what you are attempting to say here? Its still continues to be a label just like I said already. Yes we refer to someone who practices socialism as a 'socialist' (or communism as a communist etc), but anyone can also 'officially' call themselves a socialist (or communist or libertarian etc)... doesn't mean that's what their ideology. \n\nNazi is short for national socialist... not for national socialism. National socialist is part of an 'official' party name (National Socialist German Worker's Party) that the party gave itself. Nazi's never practice a form of '(national) socialism', they practiced (ultra) fascism. They simply co-opted this label for themselves.", "Been on the platform since 2008. It's moulded my career in games. Disagree with much of the opinions in the video. It's creating a ton of negative sentiment and suggesting solutions that will only hurt the playerbase. When it comes to child safety on the internet there's issues as a whole. Users can't make real money from limited items. And the virtual money you make is a great tool for teaching people economic priciples as it did me. You make mistakes in life and you learn from it. The lesson the dude got from spending all his Robux seems to have been really valueable for him. \n\n\nThere was barely any regulation on the Roblox forums so it was just a ton of teenagers shit posting. Removing it from the website was a good move in my opinion.", "I’m sure the developers of the game know what causes these kids to buy these robucks, and they don’t care as long as they make a profit", "Going for 177 I see.", "I get that in academia that's what they're referred to as, sometimes. But everyone else knows them as Nazis. Don't be a pedantic twat and try to shift focus away from the murderous sons of bitches they are.", "Apparently yes, because I have no idea what you're getting at.", "To be fair, they probably meant bigger than Nintendo in terms of \"Market Cap\" aka the total value of all shares. The current price of one share times how many shares exist.", "I am from europe. He was already invastigated by our bureau of information but he is also being looked into by the actual fbi. That nazi group is international", "The upvotes tell me otherwise. And at the time I didn't have time to watch it. I have since watched it and have nothing else to add. The people that had something valuable to say were spot on and you, are not someone adding value to this.", "They were trading bomb videos on those telegram groups. And gun stuff and talking about killing minorities and shit", "Yup… 100% serios. Hard to believe for me as well", "still does", "Yeeeeeah... Making sexual jokes to a 12 year old is some pretty pedo shit. Disgusting.", "Why would Facebook give up? If their Metaverse products division end up being even a tiny bit as successful as Roblox it will be hugely profitable for Facebook.\n\nFacebook has a fair amount of cash. They might as well invest it in a project that has a chance of making a lot of money. Even if it's a very small chance of being successful.", "You could try watching the video?", ">She was also a giant mecha godzilla thing in South Park.\n\nAnd that is after she complained about her first unflattering appearance. And why Oprah didn't say shit when her vagina took hostages. She knew they'd just follow up with something worse.", "How many people playing actually intend to make their own games though?", "No one is shifting focus, they literally refer to the same thing. They’re both despicable terms.", "def best to play it safe. I remember when I was around 13 we would mess with the pedos on yahoo chat by saying we were gonna send them some pictures and would actually send Sub7 and just and put \"warnings from the FBI\" and stuff up on their screen. Obviously not something I recommend letting your kids do.. but people didn't quite understand the internet fully yet even in the year 2000. Yahoo chat was the THE meeting place of pedos back in the day... there were chat rooms literally labelled for it, no idea if it's like that now a days, not something i'd be willing to even be within a couple clicks of as an adult lol. Your Ready Player One Analogy is spot on.", "The in-game prices could be made up. There doesn't even need to be a real transaction for them to pretend some high-value trade occurred.\n\nNot sure why this youtuber thinks they're real. It may well be fraudulent.", "Providing the price graph gives the impression that you can make profit. Kids may see it and think its low enough to purchase, and they may believe the price could go up, making a profit. That is the gamble. The collectibles are essentially NFTs.", "I mean, did you watch the video? It's like 50% about a pedo.", "This seems so sinister....targeting kids as both your workforce and your customer? Disgusting.", "I remember playing roblox years ago when most of the games were original. There was actually support and not copy pasted. Now roblox went off the deep end and became the shithole", "Possibly, but I don't think PMG found any credible evidence of that, or they'd probably make that claim. No need to taint the rest of their investigation with claims they can't back up.", "I don't understand, what's wrong with the highlight? Kids shouldn't be doing this stuff, but they shouldn't be charged or registered as sex offenders for sending their own pictures to others of similar age. \n\nDefinitely if they're sending it to an adult, or someone a few years older it can be dangerous, but I don't see why you'd charge the minor.", "It's so wild how roblux has changed or not changed I used to play this game 6-7 years ago and never ran into troublesome people, then again I made sure to always ignore anyone messaging and if I did message it was exclusively to help other players or get help. A lot of people's kids get easily attached to people and I just feel that parents are just not giving enough love to their children or something for that to happen. Also I exclusively only used the tickets which they had traded them for robux and never had to spend money on the game.", "When i was playing around 2008-2010 there was a lot of issues with what they called “online dating” between kids…but now that I think about it the more it sounds like it was more of a blanket term for the pedos on the website. \n\nI was probably 11-12 when I played it, lot’s of simulator games that had you “rp” as a family…ugh I’m so glad i put this game behind me", "I'm saying PMG can mention that price fluctuations are managed by Roblox and subject to influence. Not that they should assert the prices are faked.", "Coke Studios has been re-invented into CaveJam. They have a subreddit and you can play it today. It’s has more or less everything with some additions.", "I saw dbz characters too, no way thats legal", "Or any rules lol", "Well, do you have an answer to the quoted question?", "And you call me obtuse...", "Which idea? There have been a few floating around, several of which you have referred to as the point.", "I'm only 90 seconds in this video and I'm like \"What the Hell\"? \n\n\nNow, after finishing it and have a better understanding what the site really is about, this concerns me. There should be some sort of setup of what to do when a kid amass so much cash as well has safety features on the site. The company has a no hands approach on this problem.", "Bad ass", "It seems problematic that Roblox manages the database of price changes for these items. Transactions could be faked so it appears a $1 item increased in value to $100. The whole thing is managed by them so you have no evidence either way.", "Quinns?", "Threads over dude, go home. Bye.", "The intro made it seem like what they found was going to be some horrifying stuff, but in the end I didn't really find any of it all the shocking. There's some room for improvement for sure, but it didn't really make me feel like Roblox is a terrible thing overall.", "G", "The same way we typically just say America, instead of United States of America.", "Pool’s closed.", "\\knocks on door\\\n\nHello, would you be interested about hearing about our Lord and Savior, Turai Ossa?", "My cousin was beainwashed by one of those exact groups. One minute he’s a 13 year old kid without a ton of friends playing Roblox constantly, then over the next few years he would withdraw more and more, and then one day he turns 18, takes all the money he’d saved up from his part time job, gets on a plane without telling anyone, and stops answering anyone’s phone calls. Eventually we learn he flew to North Carolina to go live with a family of white supremacists he met through Roblox and we’ve genuinely never seen him again.", "lmao this makes no sense when roblox is knowingly paying these pedophiles", "When I was a young boy I used to make maps for Counter-Strike. Tried to get into modeling, texturing... and no one paid me for that. I do remember many community mod projects as well, and no one got paid either. Now they can do what they like and get some side money? Or should they get back to not being paid at all, and just doing what they like on their own?\n\nThe entire situation feels quite exploitative, especially with the market and such, but I have much less issues about the content creation part.", "You got a timestamp for the last part?", "Okay, let’s use the treehouse analogy. \n\n\nA bunch of kids get together to build a treehouse. Some of the kids may or may not be adults masquerading as children. If the treehouse becomes popular, you can charge kids to enter. Should they do so, the hardware store gets the majority of the money, while your group gets about a third, with no consensus on how to share that third. That third is paid in hardware store company scrip, with the store actively encouraging the kids to make more tree houses for greater income. And of course, there’s always the danger of a construction company coming in and making a treehouse better and advertising it more, stealing any chance you had at earning the previously mentioned company scrip. \n\n\nWhat in the goddamn is a child supposed to learn from that?", "Bro I used to play RuneScape private servers and we had malicious adults flirting (and more) with kids.. I was one of those kids. Was just creepy at first but then she sent images of herself nude to just about every teen on the forums. We got her banned immediately, mac and IP address included. I sincerely hope the devs sent her info to authorities, but given how international the playerbase was I'm not sure if that happened", "Is Spain linked with Nazis?", "Nah. Like anything, usually it’s the most popular things that will be the first target of predators and manipulators. Really, it shouldn’t be a child’s job to have to worry about this. It’s the job of adults to keep their kids safe and learn about their hobbies.\n\nThis isn’t to say just go doing whatever you want and expect your parents to clean up the mess haha. \n\nA young person’s perspective on a child dominated space is actually very valuable, because it provides a window into a culture that we adults wouldn’t understand or care about otherwise, because we have boring adult crap to worry about like politics and bills. \n\nYou weren’t condescending at all, you didn’t insult anyone or question their intelligence. You gave insight that many may not have otherwise had.", "I call it North Korea, because calling them in any way \"democratic\" is a lie. So yes, the language does matter. Which is what I've been saying consistently.", "Scrolling through hot on Reddit and seeing Quinn’s face is like running into your teacher at the grocery store.", "> c) I'm a democratic socialist. If you think I have an agenda against socialism because I used National Socialism instead of Nazism, you're frankly a moron and sum up why Redditors have a stereotype.\n\nIt's sad but not surprising that so many people do not know the difference between \"National Socialism\" and economic/resource socialism.", "They're collectibles. Chill. Collectibles aren't considered investments by the sec.", "That sucks, man. Sometimes power in small communities really brings out the worst in people.", "We just used to pub stomp lobbies, older I get the less I’m able to keep up with trends like becoming a gaming nazi", "Lots of moms credit cards", "This is one big oof", "I agree but I also felt weird about that cause I feel like the topics arent crazy for teens, but the issue is that some of them might not be teens\n\nLike, I would’ve appreciated that space as a teen but yeah need to guarantee it’s actually all teens lol", "m'wallet", "It reminded me a bit more of habbo. There are video essays on habbo but it had some of the problems presented in this video: children pseudo working/role-playing as part of corporations. Huge gambling problems. Questionable user interactions. And a thriving black market.", "Damn bro don't let the internet get to you so much.", "Sooo same deal as any social media?", "Exactly, you're inconsistent, you should find a new name for the Nazis, because that word is literally an abbreviation of National Socialists, so by calling them Nazis you are participating in propaganda the same way you do when you call North Korea the DPRK.", "Ya it sucked because i liked to discuss the meta and stuff like that but it is what it is. Really annoyed that they just ignored me instead of validating the ban", "Looks like at least one other person is still hanging around.", "Honestly my best advice to any parents or aunts/uncles letting their young ones play roblox (or any online social platform for that matter) is to monitor what they are playing and try and find things that suit their interest. In my experience (like I previously said) 99% of the times you will be fine, but I imagine it would be worth sitting down and finding games with your child, for example, maybe they like drawing and they'll enjoy a game called Copyrighted Artist, or maybe you'll be like me and be addicted to milsim at 9 years old lol", "Also the amount of anime games! I don’t play roblox but I know there are a ton of games called Blox Piece or names that are just a pun on the anime title. And have a roblox character version of the character from the anime on the thumbnail. No clue how they are not taken down", "Wow, that was your point? I gave you the benefit of the doubt because I thought that position was too dumb, I apologize for thinking you actually had a point to make instead of some half baked attempt at a gotcha.\n\nNazi was and abbreviation of National Socialist, but became its own word decades ago. Nazi in 2021 doesn't mean \"a member of the German National Socialist party\" any more, no one alive thinks that way.", "Fun fact: In the-or-around 2004 I joined a clan in RTCW:ET. The clan was called HESS, named after Chris Hess the founder. Talent was required, and auditions were a thing.\n\nMonths later, due to internal clan politics I wasn't privy to, many clan members left. Turns out Chris was a tiny bit... Nazi. From voice chats over Roger-Wilco, I never got the impression that Chris was trying to indoctrinate or recruit others, just that his beliefs came up in conversation and it made many members uncomfortable as hell.\n\nFortunately many of the people that left were some of my favorite dudes. One guy, another Chris, made a new clan that I ended up joining. Most fun I've ever had playing a competitive FPS. Disclaimer: I know this name wouldn't be ok now, but at the time, it was used freely as a general, if homophobic, insult. We were the FAG Clan. The Fuck Around Gang. The joke was that idiots would call us fags, we'd tell them what it stands for, then insta-kill them with a server command. Anyone who used homophobic slurs got nuked as we laugh and tease them.\n\nEdit: Oh right. To those unfamiliar with RWTC:ET, most servers were independent servers run by enthusiasts. FAG Clan ran it's own servers, one with one game-mod type and another. We ended up with one of the most popular servers due to our general \"hey, fuckit\" attitudes. Sometimes we were super serious and competitive, other times it was Ferris Bueller's Day Off time.\n\nDouble-Kill Edit: HEY, this still exists! https://et.splatterladder.com/?mod=claninfo&idx=164782", "Roblox is the morally insane version of lego.", "Considering how much these 3 studios need to do to be back in relevancy I get that they're trying to use the hype.", "Roblox is just 3D Habbo Hotel, change my mind.", "after watching your videos, i am quitting roblox and will look for people to play kabadi with", "It’s easy to imagine little kids playing “children’s” games. However as a VR enthusiast, and Rec Room being both free and actually good quality/fun, it blows my mind at the absolute infants that play Rec Room. I’ve been in battle royale lobbies with like 5-6 year olds and it’s honestly kinda scary. ANYONE can say ANYTHING to that incredibly young child and there’s no protection. I can only imagine what Roblox, Minecraft, and other games’ servers are like...", "Just eat your dopamine soup from your screens.", "What the hell is Roblox supposed to do about kids on discord? How are they supposed to stop kids from being underpaid from employers? Why is this guy expecting Roblox to be a parent to children?", "Why did you not wait till after watching the video before commenting? I truly don't understand.", "Just send her the video", "Umm… they’re more or less synonyms. You might prefer one term to the other, but mentors most certainly do guide mentees.", "Hm maybe. I’ve definitely seen infringement of properties that are normally very litigious. However I do recall my protege telling me one of the Pokémon ripoffs we played had to be completely redone at one point to get rid of the obvious “borrowing” they were doing. But the number of anime assets you see from normally very strict companies is astounding. Guessing a lot just falls through the cracks.", "Bro most of them kids are just trolling chilllllllll", "I will never support a company that exploits children knowingly..", "S&box? What's bad about that? Its gonna be baaically gmod 2", "This is exactly what I expected. Who would be surprised by negative outcomes of a poorly regulated game forum?\nMost AI that gets exposed to Twitter and social media ends up racist or worse. \nThis is real people doing the same.", "what about federal and state taxes? do you report earnings to the govmn't?", "Uh dude it's muuuch more than that... One game on the server already has 1M", "That's not a Nazi Sim dude, you're being an alarmist. It's just kids role-playing being in the military", "Lol I told my brother just fight back, maybe teach them why they do that and tell them what you can or cant say to them. Oh you just assume your kids is too dumb for that... Then just don't let him/her play roblox, is it too hard to do that?", "Eh man monitoring just feels wrong. Looked at every single thing yoyr kid does, give them some privacy", "Just let him play but tell him what to do and what not to do c'mon", "Like in every game but ok", "Hey why don't you say anything about the other reply you got here", "Ok if another user steals your content. How can a kid take another kid to court? Are you allowed to copyright or trademark a roadblox game? can you apply a GPL license?", "Lol being in games around 2004, I find no disrespect with your clan name. That was kind of the fun part of games.\n\nI still run around with \"Team Fuckboi\".\n\nBut that definitely was what clans were about back in the days. Just a bunch of idiots having fun. Sure we get \"not PC\" but we are not fucking nazis.", "Roblos game dev here, this video is painfully relatable- the fact that I knew all about all these things and even considered the sketchy website way over devex. I know at least 2 pedo sort of figures, one of which I worked for for a short time unpaid. now I have a proud record of 13 ish permabans for various reasons from that place. It's absurd what goes on in the community, how shockingly unsafe it is, and the things people get away with. These guys aren't overplaying it, it's maddening", "I watched the first 5 mins of this, never played roboblox had no idea about any of this, I'm so fucking glad I don't have kids. I'd seriously consider preventing them from playing this game at an early age.", "Meanwhile, you could go play FPS games on PC or Xbox and get called racial slurs every other minute lmao", "How bout the 12 year olds facing sexual harassment then? Is that evil enough for you or whatever shit standard you have.", "STFU Roblox fanboy", "And they all clapped.", "That seems kind of a stretch. Wouldn't any value accruing item or system, for example trading cards, limited edition comic books, etc be classed as \"securities or investment\" in such a reading?", "Why would anyone care if you're trading their company? Hilarious delusion. They are somewhat answerable to long term shareholders and investors. No company likes traders.", "I'm gonna guess you're one of those people who think loot boxes aren't gambling either. Lmao", "That's one of the worst analogies I've ever seen. Holy shit", "Yep, this is it exactly. If my parents did anything like what other people are saying in this thread, I'd just go play at a friends house and then lie about it lmao. \n\n-someone who played violent video games (oh no!) at a friends house growing up.", "> I feel like discord is a bigger part of the problem than roblox here. Discord replaced open forums. It keeps everything private. It gives predators unmoderated access to communicate with kids. There are so many scandals involving discord these days.\n\nI disagree with you about Roblox not sharing some responsibility, but I completely agree with this.\n\nDiscord is starting to feel like a return to the wild west days of IRC chat rooms and such where nerdy disaffected kids looking for a community on the internet can rapidly find themselves in the middle of some extraordinarily dark shit, all behind closed doors and hard for parents to track.\n\nDiscord communities are both easy for kids to find and extraordinarily hard for parents to police. I don't think there's much awareness of how much like a completely unmoderated social network it is - parents think that it's just a way for the kid to voice chat with their school buds.", "I thought it was funny you cant trade big items in adopt me before going through a tutorial that teaches about scamming", "If you aren’t making sure your child is doing age appropriate things, you aren’t parenting. There is no compromise here, it is literally in the job description. This isn’t about 17 year olds, this is about kids under 13. \n\nThe internet is mostly inappropriate for children, unironically. The bulk of internet content is quite literally tailored to adults. This is fine and by design. Children are biologically incapable of proper risk assessment. It doesn’t matter if a child is “more mature” or “more responsible” or whatever. This is literal brain development stuff. Kids need to be taught, need to be monitored to some degree, because they are biologically incapable of understanding consequences of abstract concepts like online interaction. This isn’t a “fire hot don’t touch” level thing. Children are susceptible to manipulation, crave validation, and cannot properly understand certain intangible concepts.\n\nThese are things you sign up for when you choose to be a parent. If you are unable to deal with them, don’t be a parent. \n\nAnd if you’re a child yourself, sorry if if this offends you. Any child reading this now, know that you’ll understand this when you’re older. When I was a kid I thought I was smarter than I was too. Literally nearly everyone does. Then you grow up and realize how little anyone knows and how much less than that kids know. \n\nParents: get involved in your kid’s/kids’ life/lives because it is your obligation to do so. You chose this life, so do it right, even if it sucks, because your child did not choose to be born, so you owe it to them to not fuck it up.\n\nKids: please understand that sometimes adults have to do things you think are stupid because it’s what it means to be an adult. Trust me, we’re struggling too, but we (at least the good people of the world) do it all for the next generation.", "i mean go and read what hyperbole is.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nam i exaggerating or isolating certain parts for effect? sure\n\n&#x200B;\n\nit's not literally those things. not sure an online sweatshop even makes sense.", "I do think if you own a medium of exchange that takes a cut at some point some of that money should go to the creators. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nbut it all depends on the exact configuration. people writing comments on articles to a lesser extent than designing, programming, drawing, animating a game. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nnot that hard to understand really.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>That's not how any of this works.\n\nit works how they/we want it do. i'm talking about how i think it should work. and that's if kids are working to make you games for your platform - you at the very least have an obligation to make sure they get paid.", "That's just not true though.\n\nHow was it a 'Nazi sim'? What suggested to you that a bunch of kids where shouting sieg heil?\n\nYou've just seen the word military, remembered Nazis were a military force, and gone 'oooh, must be a nazi sim!!!!'. It makes no sense, and you've practically made that assumption up - but ya still get upvotes because politics.", "to an extent sure. there does need to be a bigger conversation about how companies are shifting towards creating mediums of exhange and markets rather than products. especially when the goods traded are virtual and in their control.\n\n&#x200B;\n\na more moral version of reddit would have some sort of democratic and meritocratic distribution of ad revenue. i mean moderating a large subreddit here is basically working for reddit for free.\n\n&#x200B;\n\ni do think the roblox case is qualitatively different though.", "thanks for this comment. this is the right approach, imagine if we were locked out of the internet as kids. roblox is growing every year and more cool games keep being made. a fun squid game that was quickly created days after the hit show started trending, I love stuff like that\n\nthe shitty side exists and certainly roblox can do better though", "Yeah this is the perfect way to get your child to become a great liar lmao. \n\nThey will play it one way or another, just make sure they're not being stupid about it.", "How do kids even get into Roblox? It's so under the radar that the time I saw it on steam charts I was like wtf and looked up videos of gameplay and couldn't find anything except examples of really shitty games and basically no other info. It's like if a cult was a video game or something.", "there was a bootleg pokemon game called pokemon brick bronze and it had more visits than all of the games combined i think.", "i learned a lot of my socail skills from roblox.", "build a safe enviroment where they will be comfortable to tell you that.", "Not being monitored online is why every 4th grader knows what porn is", "My daughter recently got into Roblox and from what I can tell it’s a machine designed to take money from children’s parents. It’s free to join in these games but in some of them even the basic things required to play that game require hard cash. It’s gambling for children.", "i- when they make friends, thye're gonna want to play the latest ps4 game, not games on consoles older than me.", "Indoctrinating kids to learn Java is just as bad\n\n/s", "And that was the whole point to FAG Clan: we tried to be the antithesis of our more serious, militant fellow gamers.", "HUH", "> Roblox could easily add VR\n\n(that's what they're already doing)", "Same! My very first reaction was, \"Is that Qinns?!!\" Then I had to check to see if I was watching ShutUpAndSitDown.", "Lol no bud", "Aside from the fact that he says he's reporting on this, he gave interviews, and the fact that this is \"newly received or noteworthy information, especially about recent or important events.\" Specifically from a broadcast... \n\nYeah this is definitely not news/s\n\nEdit: I also never said anything about his channel, I specifically called him out for his reporting done in this video.", "interesting", "This is the worst “journalism “ video I’ve ever seen. And you claim it took you months of investigating to figure out how Roblox works? And this is the all you could do. 😂\n\nSad to see everyone mindlessly eating this garbage up as if every point in the video is truth.", "Point of fact that I haven't thought of in 20 years: One of my fraternity brothers was in a gang in Lake Mary, FL called 'LMF', 'Lake Mary Fa*ts' and they called it as such for similar reasons of name calling by others and turning it into a 'positive' out at least a rallying call. He even had a small LMF tattoo that was easily hidden under his shirt. As he described it, it seemed more of a klan of outcasts looking out for each other than a hardcore gang, which is a mental picture that shouldn't be too difficult to conjure upon hearing the name. Also, their main activities were chasing girls and getting fucked up. Central Florida teenage boys in the '90s. Whatcha gonna do, ya know?", "I think the opposite, immunizes them at a young age.", "Wouldn't it contribute to an increased stock price which the company could leverage for growth?", "Your kid can stumble on a pro nazii group anywhere online. You're ranting without thinking it through. There are kids using it to make fun little games their friends can share. It's very fun to do and inspired passion for game design for the kids. The danger chief is all from developer forums not the game or the developer platform.", "\"Make your own\" games have always been like this. I remember Garry's Mod back in the day (and I assume still today) with people paying for moderator/admin on servers, perks in gamemodes, etc etc. I was brought on as staff (voluntarily, not paid) for a while and honestly couldn't believe how much money it was raking in from people paying just to have simple power over others. Owner was making at least $1k per month from his servers, and this was just a small community.", "Just say nazism lmao", "You don't need tools and information, I just check his history. You don't even need to do that, just talk to your children.\n\nParents don't need to be intelligent to watch what their children are doing", "Francoist Spain (pre/post war Spain) was falangist (iirc, falls under the wing of fascism, or at the very least right wing dictatorship), and was heavily involved in trading with the Nazis - considering there's a fair amount of historical roleplay groups that lean towards providing WW2 experiences, I imagine that a community for the Spanish Civil War might be where he's got it from.", "More like the morally insane version of Nintendo. (Of which they are now worth more than.)\n\nAnyone owning stocks of this shitbag, sell them and never look back. You are funding a horrible future.", "Well, there's your problem. There's not really any game company on the stock market that you can support. Pretty much every single one of them are in the same boat as activision.", "Iike a minimum age Thing?", "Nazi didn't mean that for very long--how far into WW2 did it take before every complicit German citizen could be called a Nazi, regardless of whether or not they were a card carrying member? And seeing as one is the abbreviation of the other, I'm not sure on what grounds you say their definitions are so wholly divorced from one another.", "Not to excuse Roblox, but:\n\nHost asks kid who spent an equivalent of $1000 on some avatars/emoji/roblox items what he would have done if he hadn't spent it that way:\n\n\"I think I would have kept $300 in savings for later life...\"\n\nConsidering you wasted it on avatars/emojis/roblox items, probably not.", "Shorting Roblox brb", "It’s called the streisand effect", "i feel like that has nothing to do with a predator. i think that they just wanted a friend and they play that snkt.", "Well maximum too in this case lol but yeah", "Tf are you talking about, this is some of the best I've seen. They have multiple people giving their side of the story, even the company itself, they also have the some comments from the people the complaints were about. They have a story that is seen from multiple sides of the story. They actually go out of their way to be as accurate as possible, i have no damn clue what you mean by it's bad journalism. That's like saying the major news outlets have good journalism.", "The username has me worried... Haha", "Roblox is not on steam lad", "Guess it wasn't steam then, but it was some \"population by game\" chart", "First video here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\\_gXlauRB1EQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ) For those who try to find it in the comments like I did.", "Yeah of course lol, SEC has shown to be quite incompetent lately 😬", "Brick Bronze got a DMCA by nintendo years ago for monetizing off of Pokémon, though I really loved that game.", "This really feels like the new version of \"Don't let your kids play Dungeons & Dragons, it will turn them into Satanists!!!\"", "> The edit is longer than the post because of two words triggering the shit out of a couple of bitching basement dwellers ;)\n\nseems like you're the triggered one, judging from the edit being longer than the post. you could have saved a lot of time and energy by just editing it to \"nazism\". the choice to write all this shit out instead of just doing that is very reddit behaviour, in the worst possible way", "An in-game real-money unregulated stock market is a money laundering dream. And Roblox gets their cut.", "Ooh a gamergater in the wild, haven't seen that for a while XD", "And it's been a while since I've seen you idiots.", "After watching this video, I logged in to my kids' accounts (they are under 10), looked around, made sure nothing was fishy, and confirm that all the settings I placed previously were intact.\n\nThat’s when I saw a message from Roblox from a few weeks ago, about a Roblox credit pending for an item that can no longer be used.\n\nTo get the credit, a child, with a verified account that indicates that they are in fact a child, can only redeem this credit by reviewing and signing an agreement promising not to seek Robux for items created in violation of their policies, even though they made them available, to begin with.\n\nNo email from Roblox indicating my kids have to review an agreement forfeiting their Robux purchased with their very much real money, because they fail to properly moderate their marketplace. \n\nI promised I wouldn’t be like my parents and close my kids off to things especially tech/games I don’t understand. I learned and play Roblox with my kids often. I am cognizant of the fact that this is an online game. I see how my nephews/nieces, and friends’ kids behave when they think parents aren’t looking. It’s not pretty. I have every security, privacy, and parental control setting set to the maximum. \n\nI talk to them about the dangers of the real world, like what to do if a stranger approaches them or if they feel uncomfortable in a situation and how those may look like in an online setting. I guess I have to now also cover the dangers of signing contracts or making “promises” dealing with assets. \n\nI’m still trying to figure out what the item was, but a heads up to all the parents. Take this chance to check in on their settings/messages, and more importantly to try and take an interest in what they are doing online. \n\nSettings and moderators won’t raise much less protect your kids.", "Maximum doesnt make much sense tho xD", "Oddly enough the nazis are often pedos. Look at /pol/ and 8chan", "I'll echo this. I'm almost 30, when I was a kid like half of us had parents who wouldn't let us buy/play grand theft auto, and we all knew who the other half were and just played at their house. Switch off every death.", "What? They were talking about creepy mods or impostors who are older and preying on teens online\n\nWas saying that’s why those spaces feel weird but if it was just teens discussing stuff with each other in a safe space with no worry of older predators lying about being teens, it would probably not feel like such a weird place", "Kids get into random weird shit but you should talk to them about it anyways.\n\nMy nephew got really into the glorious soviet Russia memes and would \"jokingly\" talk about how great it was and all that. Eventually had to have a talk with him about the holodomor and the other shitty stuff associated with the symbols he was celebrating and it kind of lost it's lustre for him", "Ewww, I looked at two posts and both contained the main mod being sus.", ">You called American Republicans fascists; an easily disprovable statement\n\nYou said that for me though? Who is the \"strawmanning moron\" here, really?\n\n>of which no official or otherwise implicit official \"fascist\" manifesto or white paper is part of their doctrine.\n\nThis is your evidence? I think you're too emotional to think clearly about this stuff.", "Do note that in-game fake currencies like \"Robux\" that can be bought and sold with real money serve two main purposes: \n\n1. Disconnect the game's currency from any actual concept of \"real money\". Yeah, those Robux may be redeemable, but they intentionally are designed to feel less like money and more like chips in a casino. \n\n2. Skirt around regulations surrounding gambling by \"gambling\" in the hypothetically worthless fake currency instead of real money... even though the fake currency can be bought with real money and exchanged for real money \n\nSo even if this kid is an emblem of good self-control, the game's design intentionally subverts that, and encourages the kid to disconnect Robux from real money, making it easier to spend. [Dan Olson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPHPNgIihR0) has an amazing video on the subject, talking about Fortnite instead of Roblox.\n\nBut even in the absence of such mechanisms, I would be very hesitant accusing this literal child of poor self-control. I would instead ask why he was allowed to spend such massive sums of cash with no oversight from anyone.", "> And you claim it took you months of investigating to figure out how Roblox works? \n\nI mean if I were making a video in which I interviewed a minor about being groomed by a pedophile on a popular online gaming service, I'd think due diligence might take a little while. Y'know, you generally want to find out as much about it as you can, and then spend time with your legal team hashing out what you can and cannot share without someone suing you. \n\nThis is genuinely excellent games journalism.", "Before discord it was Skype, TeamSpeak, and mumble. That was my experience 12 years ago when minecraft was hitting the scene. Skype was the proto-discord, and you can bet all kinds of wild shit happened there just like it is on discord. Anybody you wanted to keep in touch with, you added on Skype or kik. I operated servers with teens and grown adults, starting when I was 13. We raked in real money, hundreds per month. It's been happening, it just wasn't so mainstream and high quality.", "Just did the same thing. Thinking about a someone I know and care that could be in that hellhole too. Maybe I'll contact her mom", "Just want to acknowledge that you're a good parent for doing this.", "> What the hell is Roblox supposed to do about kids on discord? \n\nI'm not going to pretend this is an easy question, but you need to stop acting like it's an unreasonable question to ask. Roblox's setup is, however unintentionally, leading children into unmonitored, unmoderated spaces where they can be groomed by pedophiles. \n\nThis is happening repeatedly, because of the way the systems in Roblox work are set up. There may not be an easy way to _fix_ this problem, but we don't really get the luxury of pretending that it's _not_ a problem. \n\n> Why is this guy expecting Roblox to be a parent to children?\n\nWhen your product is primarily marketed towards children, this comes with responsibilities. Your audience is vulnerable, has less rights than most people, and is far easier to manipulate, fool, or exploit. Think of the [blowback](https://www.tomsguide.com/news/lego-super-mario-luigi) lego got for its (frankly obscene) lego mario promo, which had the toy crying and calling out for Luigi - another toy, to be bought at a later date. The toy, without warning, played an emotionally manipulative advertisement to children. That's fucked up. \n\nRoblox takes that and adds countless things to it. It's a community. It's a video game. It's a development hub. It's occasionally work, with significant payouts, power structures, and more. \n\nIt's not that Roblox needs to be a parent to children. It's that Roblox _is not safe for children_. It is built for kids, but it is not safe for them.", "Math circus doesn’t have that issue", "> And the virtual money you make is a great tool for teaching people economic priciples as it did me. \n\nThe specific design purpose of fake currencies like Robux and Vbucks in game design is to abstract away the idea that you're dealing with money, so that it's easier to spend. That, and skirting regulations around what is and is not gambling. \n\n> You make mistakes in life and you learn from it. The lesson the dude got from spending all his Robux seems to have been really valueable for him. \n\nI suppose this is one way to justify a child making extremely poor financial decisions (note: children should not be making financial decisions) - just claim that the lesson they learned was worth what they lost. \n\nIt seems like a very easy way to excuse almost any kind of financial misconduct.", "There were around $2 billion in sales in the last 9 months according to Roblox. I'm not sure if this only includes their original sale + 30% cut, or if it captures the entire value of the goods sold.", "Most MMOs are not explicitly targeted at children. \n\n> In fact, it probably worst in other cases as custom content is most often not monetizable. (Think Dota 1)\n\n...That's not worse. That's better. There's a huge difference between \"I am doing this as a hobby and as a labor of love because I enjoy doing it\" and \"I am doing this as a job that earns me money\". Especially for children. The latter comes with a lot of attached baggage.", "I am making the argument that they aren't commodities and could be recognised as securities, and thus be regulated under the SEC", "Buying and selling generates volume which makes the stock appear to be a hot commodity.\n\nBuying and holding helps create illiquidity with less shares being available for trade.", "The most important piece of information I found on parenting in the internet age is this: the people who work at places like Facebook and Twitter? They do not let their children use Facebook or Twitter. They keep their kids _far_ away from social media. \n\nThey know that what they have is toxic and not safe for children. They wouldn't expose their own children to it. \n\nI really hate to say it, but the answer to this question (barring some kind of a massive shift in how we do things that actually cracks down on corporations for the extreme harm they cause) is more or less constant vigilance. Keep them off the internet as long as possible. Carefully monitor what they do on their PCs. Talk to your kids' friends' parents. \n\nHonestly I'm more worried about climate collapse than Roblox, and I'll probably never have kids. But _be careful_. The world has become a lot more unforgiving. Between the ages of 14 and 18, I spent extensive time on 4chan (one of the most vile, violent, pornographic sites on the web), was groomed by a pedophile on Kongregate, was exposed to and sought out so much bizarre and violent pornography... And it fucked me up. \n\nBe careful.", "I'd argue there's no common enterprise there. I.e. no direct success to you from the manufacturer's success, and/or also no direct success to the manufacturer if you get a high value collectible. The manufacturer also does not usually maintain an exchange for such goods, and these happen outside of their official platforms (if any).\n\nThese value accruing items would be commodities (and yes can still be considered investments), but not securities in my opinion.", "Define whataboutism?", "Yeah, this information was interesting but god was it presented in an awfully unprofessional way...", "In the British dark comedy Four Lions, they communicate over a kids penguin game. \n \nBrilliant film.", "Have you watched the video?", "The party lied to get people to support them, see also, The Democratic People's Republic of Korea.", "There are many items in the roblox market that is stolen designs from other games that sells for high prices but the wiki just brushes it off as a \"reference item\".\n\nReally? A \"reference item\" that roblox sells for hundreds and thousands of robux? They also love to reskin those items and sell for it for WAAAAY HIGHER than the \"original\".\n\nAlso ignore my name pls.", "I am in my 30s and still addicted to minecraft.", "\n>I'm not sure how Roblox gets away with the copyrighted characters:\n\nPresumably as with all user-generated content on the internet no action is taken until it is reported by the copyright holder.", "They aren’t working long hours, they’re playing long hours. It’s like virtual Lego. Don’t confuse developing content for Roblox to be anything in terms of complexity like developing the actual game platform.\n\nWould you say that Lego is exploiting child labor when children build creations with it?", "\n>- buy Robux for fiat currency (e.g. 100,000 Robux for 1250 USD)\n- invest in assets with that Robux,\n- sell assets for Robux (whilst Roblox takes a 30% cut) at a profit or loss (but Roblox's fortunes from the sale are directly correlated with the investors fortunes from the sale),\n- sell that Robux for fiat currency (100,000 Robux for 350 USD - a 72% exchange fee!)\n\nThis timeline is slightly inaccurate in that the site does not** allow Robux to be exchanged out of the site unless it is earned through development of some kind (third party markets notwithstanding). The video makes this same mistake.\n\nThe workaround is that you can use the money earned through trading to finance the creation / marketing / whatever of a game on the platform and turn it into \"legit\" money that way.", "Why do I feel like Facebook’s Metaverse will share many parallels with the Roblox ecosystem?", "sesspool", "Jesus Christ, the idiots thinking that national-socialism is a euphemism for nazi or somehow propaganda have like a negative amount of braincells.", "There's a century of historiography on how national-socialism as possibly the worst, most vile and racist ideology Europe ever produced, but sure OP is a nazi because idiot Americans don't know the difference between socialism and national-socialism.", ">Or is it just that it's easier to monetize and market a game mode to children already playing Roblox than it is to, for example sell them a standalone Unity game?\n\nA bit tangential but this line made me curious about whether or not kids use itch.io as a browser gaming hub the way older generations used Flash sites.", "So just to be clear I didn't make this video, it was made by the People Make Games channel. They are pretty good though so check them out.", "Probably isn't the best way to money launder given that Roblox takes a HUGE cut (30% of sale), and 72% when converting Robux to real money (if they even allow you to)", "Multiple individuals giving stories doesn’t mean they are right. Other people chiming in, this is Reddit, it’s just an echo chamber and people with hate boners.\n\nThis is just a huge boomer take with so much garbage.\n\nThe minor who was 12 and got sexually harassed on DISCORD, not Roblox. Just to make sure you’re understanding this, Discord is NOT Roblox. Where is discord’s liability? Not a fucking word about bashing discord in the video. Oh, and the 12 year old broke discords TOS by being under 13, but no mention of that. Roblox banned the accused off Roblox, even though that shit all happened on Discord. Has Discord banned the guy, he should be investigating Discord.\n\nKids making games and using other kids work? Where does that happen? Twitter, and Discord. If these kids are feeling their work is being exploited, they can literally step away from the computer, talk to their parents, not develop for that person again, or go make games in Unity 😂 Roblox also has channels developers can report other developers. But Roblox can’t monitor what kids are doing on Twitter or discord.\n\nLimiteds as gambling? Bro, this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. It’s literally just an item you buy for the currency on Roblox. You can use currency to buy items in any fucking online game: COD, Minecraft, Valorant, World of Warcraft, the list goes on. His claim of limiteds being gambling, doesn’t even fit the definition of gambling. \n\nBlack market? Every online game with trading has a black market. Minecraft, wow, RuneScape, new world, the list could go on forever. It’s a sad situation, but if there is a demand for it, someone will make shady sites. If those sites are hosted in let’s say Russia, there is nothing Roblox can do due to international laws. \n\nSo yeah, all 4 points this guy made are garbage, and 100% a bad boomer take. This guy has a temper tantrum for 40 minutes excepting Roblox to play God and know about everything that happens off platform. But you keep up with the Reddit give-mind and mindlessly agree “rObLoX bAd!”", "Sorry, I forgot a large portion of Reddit speaks simplified/US English", "The sale I was talking about (100,000 Robux for $350) comes from the on-site Developer Exchange. Yes, you do need to be a \"developer\" that is 13+ and that has earned a minimum of 100,000 Robux before you can cash out, but I believe \"developer\" also includes people that create Roblox clothing items / accessories / etc\n\nThen I think in theory, you can convert any Robux, whether it comes from trades or earned. I would have to confirm this.", "Simplified? I have the choice of two words, whereas you limit yourself to one.", "I had no idea of the existence of roblox but had a friend who was literally able to buy himself a nice house, and car just from selling and buying stuff in habbo hotel.", "And you know where the grooming happened? Discord! Yes, that’s right, Discord! Not Roblox! It’s literally in the video. So now, go investigate discord because they aren’t Roblox.\n\nWhen Roblox was made aware that the accused was in their platform, the accused was banned. \n\nThe fuck do you want Roblox to do? They aren’t God and can’t control what happens on Discord, Twitter, Facebook, etc.", "That's because Roblox back from 2006 - 2010 was a wildly different environment. Back then, the most advanced games were trying to survive natural disasters or shooting zombies at McDonald's. Monetization in games didn't exist back then. Now, there's full on Call of Duty clones and even a Hearts of Iron IV clone that have an insane amount of effort put into them, and these devs can put microtransactions in that solely use Robux to gain more of the site-wide currency.\n\nPart of me is glad that they completely nuked the forums a few years back as, if they kept it around, it would be an absolute mess these days with so many kids on Roblox. They could barely moderate the forums back in 2012.", "I think you're missing the point, its not about creation of community content. Its the fact that kids are \"employed\" as part of a development team without any regulation to enforce laws that protect adults in their jobs.", "I was actually looking into RBLX, thinking that they had potential to provide a decent return.\n\nAfter watching this video, there is no way I will even consider investing in a company whose entire existence is based on the exploitation of children.", "You got lucky. I look back at who me and my friends were chatting with when we were new to the internet, and I realize how dumb and trusting we were. I am positive we weren't the only kids online running into creeps pretending to be our age.", "Gamergate was a shitshow on all sides, but depicting it as a right wing mob of \"white male gamers\" being \"whipped into a frenzy\" is quite unfair.\n\nIt featured some lazy journalism, people on the internet getting irrationally upset about it as they're wont to do, and an industry that responded by deflecting the somewhat* justified critisism onto a gender issue, which set the whole powderkeg to blow.\n\nAs a woman in her teens heavily into gaming at the time, I can tell you I did not appreciate major gaming news outlets basically lumping the entire community in with the basement dwelling neckbeards.", "Balls of steel", "I did after I commented.", "Nothing wrong with that!", "Ooh, such a fragile ego, maybe you should just go and cry in the corner again XD", "I don't think teens need anything like this in the digital world. At best it would spiral into an even worse version of playground-talk due to anonymity, at worst it would be immeasurable harm to children by some bad actors.\n\nWithin a few minutes of scrolling through I saw a post that was [ABSOLUTELY made by an adult writing fiction](https://www.reddit.com/r/SexPositiveTeens/comments/remopf/whats_your_take_on_exhbitionism_any_stories_you/). It's even worse when you look through their post history and see that this person is concern-trolling about blocking teens from sending nudes, or how \"some people find it odd, but it's actually really common to masturbate openly around the home.\"\n\nI knew the moment I saw the name of the sub that it's a place used to groom kids, and within minutes I found plenty of proof. I jumped down the rabbit hole through poster I linked to, and they're in a bunch of other similar subs, like one where /r/sexpositivehomes--I shit you not--the top post is how to handle your nudity around your kids' friends.\n\nThese people need to be dropped into the sun.", "I've participated in such \"milsims\" back in my youth and I don't feel like I've became a conservative or alt-right-wing or some shit like that. If anything, such experiences are sterile for most part. Very time-consuming yes, but I struggle to recall any kind of political indoctrination or anything like that. Just bunch of kids and teens pretending to be soldiers.", "In the IPO it usually leads to them gaining a huge amount of investment. After that it's up to them to keep the ball rolling. \nThe company can at a later date issue more shares at a higher price to raise more capital.\nThere is always headroom between the amount of existing shares the board controls and the amount open to the public. Look at Apple for example their board has over a billion shares that they could sell tomorrow if they wanted.", "Tell them what's wrong, why it's wrong. What will happen if they get catched doing wrong things. Just block some things yoyrself, monitoring them 24/7 just feels evil", "Oh ffs. Discord doesn't have a cp problem, at least not more than any other place online. \n\nYou even say that in the same comment you're singlinf discord out in.", "Again?", "I'm 17 by the way and I did get monitored for everything i did. While my classmates had fun playing gta or having consoles, I only had toys and a pc where I played flash games (browser games), yes some were wrong. But I wasn't dumb enough to think those flash games were real or that I should do the bad things that happen there. Let your kids explore things on their own, but tell them what to do or what not to do.", "Block porn sites, not monitor them 24/7", "That's really sad 😟 If anyone in your family is ever able to contact him, I'd recommend just letting him know that y'all miss him and give small updates about anything new in the family. If he ever wants to get out (which is hard to do if your only contacts are within the group) then at least he'll know there's a place he can escape to; just don't pressure him into coming to visit, or badger him about why, you gotta be the one to continuously extend the olive branch.", "If roblox want to fix that problem they have to be a singleplayer game. That doesn't give it the identity anymore. It was made to create games and play other's games", "Because had I not asked for what I did, I would have forgotten about this. I don't see what's so wrong with asking for a TL;DW. If you have the time to watch a 30+ minute long video the moment you see a post on reddit, then great for you. Many people don't. If you have a problem with it, that's on you and you don't have to waste peoples time arguing about it.", "You are telling me to watch a 30+ minute long video, when you can't even take the time to read and see if I have watched the video...yeah...GTFO", "Sounds like world of warcraft with the stock market/printed currency crap. \n\nLots of kids with no smarts, access to black market vendors and dad's credit card just going crazy", "Yep. Roblox is also proactive with some of this stuff despite what the video tells you. One of the big name games started as an anime knockoff and roblox told them they either had to rebrand it and change the names or it would get deleted.", "Yeah, Toei and Nintendo are notorious for aggressive copyright claims. Hell, TeamFourStar had a literal voiceline cameo in the OFFICIAL DBZ Kai dub that aired on TV, and Toei still continued to go after them for DBZ Abridged. It's weird that neither company has put pressure on Roblox.", "That reasoning is quite circular. As I feel like it does matter that the minor is themselves, particularly if they're going to be punished for it. \n\nI understand that children can be more susceptible to manipulation however, and the solution to stop them from becoming unfairly preyed upon and having their life ruined is... To give them a criminal record and label them a sex offender? I don't understand how that is much of a preventative measure in the first place.", "> Do you hold companies like Steam, Epic, and GOG to the same level of responsibility?\n\nYes.\n\n> There have been a number of publishers involved in scandals on Steam. But you're going to scream \"No they don't!\" so let's name names.\n\nThe apples-to-apples comparison would be to list other game publishing platforms that enable the behavior that Roblox does, not to play \"Waddabout DEEZ GUIZE?!?!\" while reading off a list of names with no further elaboration.\n\n> I'd also add that just like in the case of Roblox, none of these issues were sent via the in game chat - it was done off of the platform. Which is why Roblox isn't taking action. \n\nRoblox profits from those activities no matter how deeply they bury their heads.", "Children don’t get exploited if they use the website with adult supervision. Not rocket science", "You can't just say \"it's the responsibility of the parents\" to everything. If my kid got kidnapped, taken to Chuck E Cheese and they noticed something was wrong, intervened and called the authorities, I wouldn't be coming there fuming because they intervened with my role as a parent. In a society, sometimes if a role is thrust into your hands, you are expected to perform that role to the best of your ability. And if you neglect that, you can be held liable for it.", "They should totally put caps on the collectable market. so no item can sell for more than like 10USD. But they wont because, what did he say? they take 30%?.\n\nThis is just insane and depressing.", "> And you know where the grooming happened? Discord! Yes, that’s right, Discord! Not Roblox! It’s literally in the video. So now, go investigate discord because they aren’t Roblox.\n\nI feel like I've struck a nerve here. This seems _very_ defensive of Roblox. Discord has its issues with moderation, fair. Discord is not a video game marketed specifically to children. It's a social media and messaging app. The way people think about and approach those two things are very, _very_ different, and if the former is pushing kids towards the latter, there is a problem.\n\n> When Roblox was made aware that the accused was in their platform, the accused was banned. \n\n...Which isn't good enough. The accused's _project_ still exists on Roblox, he still runs it, and people interested in his game are still going to end up directed towards his discord server. I'm not going to say I know what Roblox _should_ do in this scenario, but this does not seem like doing their due diligence when it comes to the matter of pedophiles using their service to groom children. \n\n> The fuck do you want Roblox to do? \n\nMaybe stop letting people invite children to unmoderated, unfiltered third-party chatrooms via your app? \n\nMaybe create your own devlog chat system and keep the service explicitly safe for children?\n\nMaybe do more to crack down on a project whose lead is, again, I feel like I should really emphasize this, _using it to groom children on the service_?\n\nMaybe a lot of things. I'm not a professional. I am not the kind of highly-paid expert consultant that gets brought in to solve issues like this. I am merely saying that what they are doing right now is not okay.", "Also Poptropica.", "Aw, are you a sad pedophile now that you know everyone knows why you play Roblox?", "Dude I was around for AOL dialup and themed chat rooms. Dude I was every gender and age you could imagine in those chat rooms. I was also 13. I loved fucking around with people trying shit. Sounds like you were just a little more clever with the FBI thing. Dude I also just woke up so sorry for all the dudes.", "Please cite the portion of [the Roblox terms of use](https://web.archive.org/web/20211211012340/https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004647846-Roblox-Terms-of-Use) that supports your \"Literally yes\".\n\nI expect it will be something like \"We can terminate your account for any reason or no reason.\" and not explicitly forbidding off-site transactions with clear penalties.\n\n\nIn any case, the documented-in-OP existence of markets for transacting off-site that have existed for years and on which Roblox itself is dependent for its continued existence makes it clear there is no effort made to enforce such a policy nor will there be.\n\nI wonder what possible agenda you could have for defending Roblox so tirelessly.", "I mean... children can do a lot of more dangerous things on the internet, such as spending their parents money, accessing porn, being susceptible to predators, etc. It is up to the PARENTS to be vigilant and be aware of what your children are doing. Besides, no one is pointing a gun to their heads and forcing them into child labor!\n\nI feel this story is just there for clickbait/views and profiting of the very situation they CLAIM is evil, which is hypocritical at best. At best.\n\nHe refuses to even scratch the surface of the individual RESPONSIBILITY in this. If it's a minor, the parents should be there regulating it. If it's an adult and you're basing your income on a freaking videogame, sorry, YOU ARE TO BLAME WHEN THINGS GO BAD.", "Yeah the worst case is exactly what I was saying makes me feel weird about it \n\nAs for the best case, idk i feel like local/in person versions of a space like this are significantly more likely to devolve into playground talk and a larger online forum where it’s harder to target someone without being so blatant as to be obvious bullying (and hopefully moderated away).\n\nBut yeah the potential benefits are a moot point given the worst case issues we brought up", "Responsibility claims are not Reddits strong suits, you know... Men child run amock here.", "That is incredibly sweet of you, thank you.", "The sexual harassment didn’t happen because roblox exists. The sexual harassment problem happens because some people are horrible not just on DISCORD, but anywhere in the word. So instead of banning DISCORD (an app for discussion and voice chat mostly related to video games) I would check in on the conversations she’s having every now and then. Getting mad at roblox because a girl received inappropriate messages on a completely separate game chat app doesn’t make sense. And discord used properly is completely safe even for kids. AS LONG AS YOU MONITOR THEM JUST LINE YOU SHOULD BE DOING IN ANY SITUATION THAT COULD RESULT IN STRANGERS POTENTIALLY BEING INAPPROPRIATE. Pedophiles are a problem in SOCIETY so get caught up in the emotions of the scary video all you want. Doesn’t change the fact that it could have been prevented before it got to that point by having parents intervene.", "> The number of parents in this thread who are saying stuff like “I’m not gonna let my little one play this anymore because they are evil” you aren’t any different than your parents when they didn’t take the time to understand YOUR hobbies growing up.\n\nThis is such a weird take. Assuming parents who forbid something do not understand a hobby or did not take their take to try to is just strawman argumentation 101. How about you start seeing this issue form your parents perspective? You might have been annoyed for missing out on something, but that is nowhere a reason that your parents decission was a bad one. In your mind you must think that nothing ever bad could have happened to you, that you are invincible and that you would have always made the correct decission when faced with problems. The reality is that you don't do that. Adults don't do that always, so expecting inexperienced children to behave better or at an adult level is plain silly. Did you even watch the video? There is a 100% example which prooves what I have said, where a kid has actually earned what would be a few hundred dollars in Roblox and then blows it on three cosmetic items on the one hand and then even gets scammed from what he had. The kid didn't know how to value money and lost all his work and success. He got taken advantage off and he is not the single case, because that taking advantage off without backlash is the reason why this platform is seen as successful. If that is the risk you are willing to accept on your playground, then your parenting seems to consist of letting your child touch the hot oven so they learn for the future, not what you claim in your post. I really do wonder if you'd tell your children to go back to that playground where other were taken advantage off or even sexually harassed.", "Build an environment where they can tell you they have been sexually harassed, instead of building one where they haven't been sexually harassed? That's one way to defend sexual harassement.", "Not to defend anyone, but isn't Roblox just as, if not more creative? I've seen people make some insane stuff in that game, it's basically GMod for kids.", "So why call them socialists and give them what they want? Even if “nazi” is a shortening of that, far more people recognise it as “the evil people” than “National socialism” which people either don’t know it’s what they called themselves and/or confuse it with socialism", "The fuck...? That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it?", "You didn’t read a word I said. I know how roblox and discord work because I use them everyday. Kids are bombarded with video games that have in game currency now days. So when they are too young to understand the value of money, monitor their trades and transactions. When they are old enough to understand the value explain it to them and if they want to experiment with item trading and exchanging things of actual value in a game (this happens all the time on Xbox PlayStation and countless other games and websites now days) that’s your choice as a parent to let them do THAT SPECIFIC ASPECT OF THE GAME. But you have to monitor when they are too young to understand and then teach them when they are old enough. Start with a few inexpensive in game items and let them trade stuff with their friends. Imagine if you got a Pokémon card worth a lot of money as a kid. If your parents took the time to learn about Pokémon cards too, they would know that it’s valuable and maybe suggest you don’t take that one to your friends house as a kid. Or be the parent who says no Pokémon cards and they miss out on something fun they could be doing safely with their friends if you just MONITOR, UNDERSTAND, and MEDIATE when you need to. I watched the whole video and I comprehend it more than most because I use roblox and discord. Did you read my entire comment? Have you used roblox or discord?\n\nI’m glad you took the time to respond instead of just talking about sweatshops or pedophiles. But I just want to get across that roblox and discord are just one avenue these dangers can come from when you have a kid. And it’s your right as a parent to completely ban avenues or understand that there will always be another danger on another road that they choose and just do some proper parenting and monitor their lives when appropriate. The stories in the video were sad for sure. But if you really read what I said, imagine if their parents were monitoring and paying attention and understood the game and the environment and the value of items etc. \n\nI don’t think I’m invincible like you said, but I do think I’m capable of allowing my kid to experience the internet safely", "\n\n>\tOne of the problems that Roblox has is that it pushes a lot of the responsibility down to the game developers.\n\nThe responsibility is on the parents, full stop. \n\nCompanies/developers should do what they can to ensure the safety of the people playing, but at the end of the day, parents need to be supervising what their kids are doing online, and educate them about some of the dangers that can come with it. \n\n>\tMaybe my kid lied to me and gave away their stuff.\n\nThis is a big possibility. \n\n>\tMaybe someone else has their password.\n\nWould your kids not know this to be a bad idea? You must be able to understand how giving someone your password isn't hacking. This sounds like the people that leave their FB open and say they were, \"hacked\". \n\nIf someone guessed their password, it means the password wasn't strong enough. You login with a username and not email, so lesson learned. \n\nIf this is what happened, it's understandable why they wouldn't restore items, because all someone would have to do is give a friend access to their account, say they were \"hacked\", trade items from their account, and then have them replaced. \n\nI'm fairly certain 2FA is an option on roblox as well. \n\n>\tMaybe they were scammed.\n\nAlso a possibility, which ties into the lying part. Before you're able to trade in adopt me, you need your trading license and have to go through a tutorial level that goes over all the ways you can get scammed, and how to avoid it, because the game is heavy on trading. \n\nIf that's the game where one of your kids lost some stuff, I can pretty much guarantee that they aren't being honest with you regarding how they lost their items. It's also likely why you didn't get an answer from the developers. \n\nThe game is huge, so imagine how many messages they must get from parents that don't know any better telling them their kid was, \"hacked\", and lost items. When in reality, the kid most likely isn't admitting they got scammed. If they got scammed, that's on your kids, unfortunately. \n\nDoes that make scamming ok? Of course not. But if you're going to let your kids play these games unsupervised, you either need to educate yourself about them, and then educate your kids, or let them learn a lesson the hard way, which seems to be the case here. \n\nAdopt me has a trading history where you're able to view trades that were made, and the player they traded with. There is also a report function you can use if there was an unfair trade. \n\nMy daughter has played roblox for 3 or 4 years now, and I've played a ton of the games on there with her. Her pc is also beside mine, which makes it easier to keep an eye on what she's doing. I haven't had a chance to watch this video yet, but based on the summary I read up there, it sounds like some 80's satanic panic bs.", ">\tRoblox is actively exploiting the work of children to make money...\n\nHave you ever tried to make a game in roblox?", "I'm going to write a letter to my MP regarding the content of this video. Is there a suitable contact method for yourself that I can include in this if an MP were to want to ask further questions about your investigation?", "So you’re an extremist. Noted.", "The last statement in my post was honest. I really do wonder if you would tell your child to go to that playground around the corner where other children have been taken advantage off. And would you tell them to still go there after you have learned that the playground was construncted in a specific way to enable the taking advantage of children and there is no backlash to those who do. I do really wonder. Because your stance seems to be that playgrounds which try to take advantage of children appear left and right and on the digital level I agree. Your solution to that? Let the children go there, since it cannot be stopped either way. And that is plain wrong. There seems to be a double-think concerning playgrounds in real life and on the digital ground. You accept a digital playground created to monetize the work of children, enables the exploitation of their finances and sex as if it was the most normal thing in the world and not something which only started happening a few years ago. Because you believe in your ability to allow your kinds to experience internet safely. I hope your kids only the best, but that is the invincibility I have talked about. And if you strawman from that position to talk down on parents who rather forbid their children from going to such a playground because they are aware of how quick control can be lost, you didn't deserve any of the Reddit gold or praise you got from other enablers.", "I think maybe your parents need to disable your Reddit chat. Mind your manners.", "> that's if kids are working to make you games for your platform\n\nNobody play 99.99% of Roblox games. There are real studios building the popular games.", "To answer your question, I would not let my kids go to any playground unsupervised. Regardless of how it’s set up. But I use this playground everyday so I know the actual potential for danger and I know it’s not that high if used correctly. But I feel like me and you have both given really good thought out answers and neither of us are budging so Thank you for taking the time to read what I said and I want to assure you that I understand your perspective. However, since we disagree on some of the fundamentals here and aren’t making any progress either way, I’m not gonna continue to talk about it.", "Wtf is that ? I thought roblox was some kind of second life/ club penguin / Habbo for kids, not a developping platform for 12yo who can earn money, get sexualized by adults and gamble on a stock-like market.", "Well you have to gice themm the ability too make their own life experiences. you can get harrrassed anywhere. You cannot have that helicopter parent shit or they wont tell you anything. This way,, in the long run they wont make as many poor choices because when someone is doing something risky, they'll be able to tell yous.", "> whataboutism \n> 1. The technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.\n\nI'm not raising a different issue, I'm pointing to analogous situations that have existed for ages that nobody is outraged about. A huge amount of the internet is people making money off content they didn't create, because they provide a service for those users. They don't pay those users. Facebook and Reddit don't pay users for creating literally all the content that brings users to their sites. Little Big Planet, Dreams, Super Mario Marker, or any number of other games that let users create, upload and share content don't pay users to do so, despite the existence of user-created content being part of the appeal of those platforms. That doesn't mean if you spend your free time making Super Mario Maker levels that you're an exploited worker. \n\nMinecraft is a multi-billion dollar industry predicated on user created content, where a majority of users are kids. \"Child labor!\" No. That's not how that works.\n\nAs for \"whataboutism\", it's as if someone said, \"Ice cream is supposed to be hot!\" and I responded, \"But look at all this ice cream. \\points\\ It's all cold! In fact almost all ice cream is cold.\" Then some dumbfuck who just learned a word he doesn't understand responds \"whataboutism!\"\n\nWhataboutism is a form of ad hominem, a red herring. That's not what's happening here.", "Boomer can't handle change, we rule the internet", "Kids are taught the value of money by being given money all the time. It's pretty pointless telling them to imagine what it's like to save money without actually doing it and feeling the emotions that come with that. I'd argue they don't see as much of a difference between virtual and real money, they may even value the virtual currency higher than real money.\n\nIt's just as easy to mispend real money, sure there's age restrictions on things like gambling but there's a ton of pointless stuff you can buy in the real world. In hindsight the developer in the video said he'd buy new equipment because he now realizes having the items he wanted for years wasn't worth it. That mindset could just have easily led him to purchasing $700 yeezys.\n\nWe can't control and garner a perfect world for our kids, so it's better to teach them how to handle the imperfections of the world.\n\nPersonally I made a few bad decisions when it came to limiteds but overall I learnt to make money by learning to hold the item and not give into selling on an impulse as the value rises over time. A great lesson for kids investing in the future. \n\nBut young people earning money on the platform is very much an edge case. I'd say 80% of people DevExing are over 18 with 19% being above 15. (Just from being in the community for 13 years). So it'd be more harmful to the community to make any drastic decisions based on a few 13 year olds that haven't already learnt the value of their money.", "So you want to give them life experience by sending them to a place which was designed in a way to enable harrassment and let those unpunished which engage in that harrassment. Basically, you are telling your children to touch the hot stove so they can gather life experience. Boy, I sure wish there would be alternatives to that. Like teaching through words or keeping certain experiences away from children until their brain becomes mature enough to assess risk better and they can defend themselves.", "> Please cite the portion of the Roblox terms of use that supports your \"Literally yes\".\n\nIt was cited in the video.", "> You can't just say \"it's the responsibility of the parents\" to everything.\n\nThe only things that you can't say is the responsibility of the parent are things that the parent can't control. Internet actions are very much under their control.\n\nIf I was using your example, you are suggesting that Roblox is forcing themselves on kids and parents have no choice in the matter? Come on man.", ">Yes.\n\nAnd then you proceed to not hold them responsible.\n\n> The apples-to-apples comparison would be to list other game publishing platforms that enable the behavior that Roblox does\n\nThere is nothing about the Roblox platform that enables that behavior any more than how Steam, Epic, and GOG enable that behavior.\n\n>not to play \"Waddabout DEEZ GUIZE?!?!\" while reading off a list of names with no further elaboration.\n\nI picked specific examples of problematic people who are published on these platforms so you can start calling out these platforms for being responsible. You, however, decline to hold them responsible. I imagine you will continue to use them and turn a blind eye to them enabling these companies and their behaviors. \n\n>Roblox profits from those activities no matter how deeply they bury their heads.\n\nSteam, Epic, and GOG profit from these activities no matter how deeply you bury your head.\n\nLet me repeat this since you ignored it so hard....If I went to your boss tomorrow and sent them faked images of you sexually harassing me, would you believe that it would be acceptable for them to fire you without any proof or ability to validate those messages?", "> Like teaching through words\n\nyes. you teach thme about the dangers of certain things on the internet. outright banniing it doesn't help much. also, you teach them to reports. report rule breaking things. guide them in the right directing.", "I see, so you stay by your stance that you want to give kids first a chance to be harrassed. You being an adult, understanding risks and danger better than kids, does not mean that you should prevent any of that harm. It's up to them, life is though. I really do wonder why we have bans on so many things, if it doesn't work.", "its sounds foregine to me because my dad bought me a ps4 with the crew 1. i played it a lot.", "Sorry not a Boomer kiddo.", ">I see, so you stay by your stance that you want to give kids first a chance to be harrassed. \n\nmaKe this make sense \n\n> You being an adult, \n\nim 13 \n\n> I really do wonder why we have bans on so many things, if it doesn't work.\n\nto tell people that its illegal and they are gonna get punished for it. \n\nlike thee predetors are a small minority that only play front page games. most of them are really just 9 year olds.s \n\nyou should moniter them, but ease up once they get older. outright banning it isnt really ok.", "its [roblox.com](https://roblox.com) .", "Ah, so you are a minor who would maybe not be allowed to play a game/do something. Well, then ofc you are against banning stuff.\n\nI guess you watched the video, right? And have seen that one person did sexually harrass a girl and also other kids and hasn't been punished for it in any way. In other places he would be punished for his bad behavior, but not here. Why would you send another kid there, if you know that bad stuff happening to them goes unpunished?", "everywhere has thqat. \n\nreeddit is r/animemes and there was malware on r/pokeleaks accidentally.", "Yeah, the same people making all those cloned mobile games and phishing websites - probably coding while they're on the phone doing tech support scams.", "I'll take that as a demure \"I'm unable to do so.\"", "You have repeatedly failed to either understand the situation you so ardently wish to defend or to draw a valid equivalence. I will charitably consider you to be engaging in bad faith rather than assume you are not capable of upholding your end of the conversation. You're welcome.", "> You have repeatedly failed to either understand the situation\n\nI understand it fully. You have no desire to discuss the situation in good faith.\n\n>I will charitably consider you to be engaging in bad faith rather than assume you are not capable of upholding your end of the conversation.\n\nProjection is a terrible color on you. \n\nYou have rejected all logic and valid reasoning in favor of being mad. It's really sad. If you want to be consistent, uninstall your Steam, GOG, and Epic libraries today. Otherwise, you're perpetuating people who profit on abuse. It's really that simple. That was your criteria. Live your values.", "So you didn't watch the video?\n\nSure why not. Let me point out all the places:\n\nWe do not recognize or condone any third-party services that may be used to sell, exchange, transfer, or otherwise dispose of Robux. We do not assume any responsibility for, and will not support, such transactions.\n\nNeither us nor any third party has any obligation to exchange Robux for anything of value, including, but not limited to, real currency, except as expressly provided in these Terms or otherwise required by applicable law. We, in our sole discretion, may impose limits on Robux, including, but not limited to, the amount that may be acquired, earned, or redeemed.'\n\nJust more bad faith on your part. It's a shame. Why are you bothering to participate in a discussion if you don't intend to have a discussion.", "> I understand it fully.\n\nAnd if you didn't, I'm sure you'd be fully cognizant of that, too. 🙄", "Still waiting for you to participate in this discussion in good faith. It will never happen apparently.\n\nDid you uninstall Steam, Epic, and GOG yet?", "Don't trust anyone who works for free.", "Try harder, sad sack.", "The new digital frontier is about placing responsibility directly to the user, shirking any duties a company should have in protecting its users. This way, when laws are broken (typically involving children) they can blame the users themselves so long as the company doesn't directly foster the community.\n\nThis is why discord is an extremely poor tool to use when dealing with anything remotely professional. You set up a gaming company, but are too lazy to moderate a forum so you end up with a discord channel that isn't beholden to gaming companies ethics or rules.\n\nReddit is similar to this with sub-reddits. Anyone who has invested themselves into any gaming subreddit here likely has seen similar foolery where the subreddit is treated as an extension of official channels ( r/wow is sort of like this).\n\nBasically, companies need to stop -all- third party communications. They need to be organized and clean house. Stop allowing developers to jump into fan discords, stop letting fans run more successful forums than the official forum. And stop letting your god damn employees interface with the community when they're off the clock, it's unprofessional.\n\nLastly, if you're ever part of a community that generates content for just about any game...you are the product. You're creating revenue for the company (who shares little to none of it with you) and they own whatever you make on their platform.\n\nThe Wild West days of the internet may be gone but the days of digital exploitation are very much alive and will continue to be around until legislation with teeth is passed.", "When someone utilizes the \"you are arguing in bad faith\" argument itself in bad faith, the only winning move, so far as I know, is to tap out and let neutral third parties who might be reading draw their own conclusions.\n\nThat being the case, if you must have the last word, make the most of it.", "> When someone utilizes the \"you are arguing in bad faith\" argument itself in bad faith, the only winning move, so far as I know, is to tap out and let neutral third parties who might be reading draw their own conclusions.\n\nAnd yet you continue to reply. Thus indicating to me that you are arguing in bad faith and know you are arguing in bad faith.\n\n>That being the case, if you must have the last word, make the most of it.\n\nI'm not the one who continues to argue in bad faith, and using that as my only argument continue to reply. I'm sure you'll reply to this response as well because you are the [kind of internet troll who has to have the last word](https://np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/r43ssj/whats_a_really_fucked_up_thing_youve_witnessed_as/hmpd4hb/).\n\nAnd I'll ask again....\n\nDid you uninstall Steam, Epic, and GOG yet or do you continue to support those who profit from abusers?", "You were the friend whose house we went to!", "I see the part where Roblox repeatedly disavows any responsibility for their actions but not the part where they say off-site transactions will be punished by account suspension.\n\nI'm sure you believe it says what you say you believe it does, though.", "I was surprised to learn it was so popular. I had heard about it but never saw it running, I always assumed it was just some little kids mobile game or something but had no idea it was as big as it is. \n\nThat's the internet though, it's pretty impressive how huge stuff but outside of your interests can be automatically filtered out to the point you know basically nothing about it. The only thing I knew about roblox was that Oooft sound effect...", "Yup, called it. Back again with your need for the last word.", "Yeah... we just met up every so often for LANparties and played online Quakeworld in the UK leagues back then lol, I suppose the LAN parties could get a bit rowdy but it wasn't toxic... just teenagers sharing files and eating pizza.", "LOL I didn't realize this was you, too. Different conversation. Hop off my scrote, guy.", "Such a stupid statement that must come from a very priveledged life to think all parents should be able to keep up with the latest technology or otherwise should hold their children back from that tech.", "You're the one that responded to me. Sorry you can't have a civil conversation based in facts.", "Since I asked for facts by way of reply, that would require you to provide some that are relevant.\n\nNow that you've drawn my attention to your identity I won't be replying again to you again in this context, either, and have tagged you as `roblox pedo apologist` to help me avoid repeating the mistake of engaging with you in the future.", "Damn we didn't know", "> Since I asked for facts by way of reply, that would require you to provide some that are relevant.\n\nAnd I provided facts and you still buried your head. In both comments. And here you are replying in bad faith, pretending like you have made any point.\n\n>Now that you've drawn my attention to your identity I won't be replying again to you again in this context\n\nGiven that your massive ego continues to reply to me, I doubt it.\n\n>and have tagged you as roblox pedo apologist\n\nDon't forget to tag yourself as Steam, Epic, and GOG abuse apologist.", "I wonder why toxic assholes might be turned off by a cartoon pirate game where the most violent thing you do is fuck up your opponent's combos in the swordfighting puzzle.", "The class upgrade from a piss bottler.\n\nAlso, you should be more careful with your syntax it could be very easily gleaned from your post that you shit in somebody's socks as recently as 5 years ago, but I mean, to each their own, my guy.", "lmao, I'm not fucking opening up the debate with a Gamergater, there's literally nothing you can say that will make me want to sit down and chat with you after tying yourself to a blatantly misogynistic movement.\n\nComplain all you want, I don't care.", "I wouldn't sweat that - most money mangers don't buy on day 1. I didn't start my first position until it crossed $100 after the last EPS gap, it actually only had about 30-40 funds in it before that gap up. To put it into perspective, stocks like NET/TDOC had over 1000 funds in them right as they took off.", "Making it so you can’t join a server with someone not on your friends list would be good\n\nBut instabanning people who promote an outside application like discord would cut down a lot", "Gissebimps!! My favorite biks!!", "Well, I tried giving you an avenue for an actual joke.", "I managed to become a Twitch mod once for a hearthstone streamer back when the game was getting popular and boy was it eye opening.\n\nI had an uncontrollable addiction to the power. I was spending every waking moment in the chat just waiting for an opportunity to ban someone. Thankfully, I’m not the type of person to abuse power, but that streamers chat was incredibly respectful and no one ever deserved a ban, so for the most part being a mod just fucked with my mental health.\n\nI remember as a kid on the internet I always wanted to be a mod and often would ask to be made a mod. As an adult, fuck that shit, you’ve got to pay me money to be a mod.", "Believe it or not your best bet might be Unreal Engine. They have a visual scripting language that means you don't need to know a single line of code and an asset store that lets you quickly and easily import different types of 3D models.\n\nIf you want something even simpler than that 3D GameStudio is a really simple drag and drop process with a large collection of free assets. You could probably get a very simple game up and running with this very quickly, but it would likely take more coding proficiency to make some of the complicated behavior that Unreal can handle through visual blueprints.\n\nHope this helped! Feel free to ask any questions.", "I never “tied” myself to any movement, nor did I call myself a “gamergater”, that's your label. All I said was that you were quick to judge and it wasn't as black and white as you made it out to be. That you're incapable of seeing nuance isn't my problem.", "What in the fuck", "I remember coke games or whatever it was!", "I ain't about to allow anybody the space to try and give \"nuance\" to misogyny, save your energy.\n\nAnd, for future reference, when you openly defend and try to rope people into talking about the merits of a movement with you, you've tied yourself to them.\n\nBesides, anybody even trying to talk from an angle that even resembles GamerGate in 2021 is just a little sad, I mean it's a 7 year old movement at this point, grow up.\n\nLet's be real, GamerGate is remembered and documented as a harassment campaign first and foremost, so I've already been incredibly generous with you by calling it a \"movement.\"", "Well sure, to someone who doesn't understand nuance and has a narrow world view, your position makes sense. I get it.", "I mean, if it's so nuanced how come you haven't said anything other than how nuanced it is and that I don't understand it?\n\nWhere's your arguments, man? You're starting to sound like that other guy in this thread who got blasted into oblivion because he couldn't do anything other than laugh and call people ignorant like a demented parrot.\n\nThis is a real common streak in GamerGaters by the way, you're not doing you're self any favors by taking this avenue when you're trying to not be seen as a GamerGater lmao", "Oh yeah, absolutely. Both are capable of great custom experiences, but Minecraft lacks the major caveats that Roblox has so it’s generally the safer choice.", "No. In any society parents aren't the only one influencing and thus raising children. The larger community invariably has a part to play as well. It is uniquely American to completely ignore this basic fact of reality and insist upon creating a fictional complete independence in raising children. Apart from moving your kids into the wilderness and killing any human that comes in sight, however, one will never experience this. The fact that it's legally the way of things has no influence on this, and actually hinders parents. Now, corporations and other entities that largely shape the world we all partake in can point to the laws and case laws and say \"See, guys, even though our platforms have flaws that should, by any measure of common sense, bar our platform from being used by kids, it's actually the parents' fault for not doing a week's worth of research into every part of their kids' lives\". Somehow bakers don't have to know how to repair a carburetor and mechanics don't need to know the time it takes for dough to rise, but once one becomes a parent they can be held legally liable if their understandably limited knowledge of a range of bad influences on their children has catastrophic results.", "Says the guy who keeps posting the same thing over and over. Literally all I said was that there were legitimate concerns raised about journalism. That you won't even agree to that is pretty telling.", "Forbidding access to something that your child’s friends are going to have access and expose them to anyways is a fool’s gambit. It is far better to educate yourself on what your child is doing, have conversations with them, and actively participate/supervise so you can curb sketchy situations or unhealthy behavior. It’s the same way with controlled substances like cigarettes and alcohol.\n\nThis allows your child to still participate and have fun with their friends without being a social outcast and known as “the kid with helicopter parents”, and strengthens the bond between you and them since you are educated enough to have conversations with them about their interests. \n\nThe internet isn’t going away; it is an essential part of how the world operates now. Ignoring, running, or forbidding access to it will just make you seem out of touch.", "> No. In any society parents aren't the only one influencing and thus raising children.\n\nIt's like you saw I wrote something and then just started typing a response based on what you wanted me to have written", "I literally read this comment on an Ipad, and it was so pathetic that I had to shame you so hard that I knew I couldn't type it out properly on a fucking Ipad, so I went and got on my PC to write this\n\n\"I had an uncontrollable addiction to the power. I was spending every waking moment in the chat just waiting for an opportunity to ban someone.\"\n\nTHEN YOU IMMEDIATELY TELL YOURSELF\n\n\"Thankfully, I’m not the type of person to abuse power,\"\n\nYou are literally fucking insane, you are the exact type of person I was talking about. You're a fucking freak and you people were the worst part about running large communities. I want you to take it to your fucking core, you had the tiniest bit of power and you started overdosing on it\n\nYou're beyond incompetent and god help anyone if you ever get in any real position of power you sad sack of shit lmfao, you're fucking pathetic. YOU ARE PAAAATHETICCCCCCC", "Please, elaborate what I'm misunderstanding. You call upon this \"responsibility of the parents\". You are either referring to a legal or a moral obligation. If it is purely a legal obligation you're talking about, the entire point becomes moot, because the whole video is condemning Roblox from a moral point of view and the law is only relevant insofar as it illuminates what is immoral about the practices being discussed. So, you think the parents have a moral responsibility - and, as comes with any responsibility, a freedom - to raise their child. A responsibility and a freedom that is so all-encompassing that a company like Roblox apparently can't be blamed for exploiting children, because their parents had the responsibility to know better. Do I misunderstand your point?", "Say I wanted 200 robux right now, to spend on the robux marketplace. How would I get those robux?", "This video is so full of incorrect information that it's unbelievable that the person who made it has actually done any research. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nRoblox has been actively cracking down on blackmarkets for a LONG time, by putting holding times on robux transfers from groups, holding suspicious limited transfers where it seems like it's a blackmarket deal (giving a shaggy for a stf), permanently banning users who obtain \"poisoned items\" (stolen items), offering \"rollbacks\" to users whose items have been stolen, and so on. The video also mistakenly refers to rolimons as a \"blackmarket\", even though it's just a valuation website which is ALLOWED by roblox because it doesn't offer any third party transactions. What's even more odd, is that if this person has done their research then they'd know from insider sources that there is a very large sentiment within roblox for a long time now to scrap the limited item system altogether. So the (conspiracy theory) that roblox is \"knowingly turning a blind eye\" is ridiculous. Even more evident of the ridiculousness of the video's claim is when you see how the roblox blackmarket has changed, before transferring robux and items was easier, and now people just sell their whole account to avoid being caught by roblox. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nThe criticism about roblox having a user run economy is also really weird. Why criticize roblox for this if it's a normal standard that every other game has? Do we really have a problem with CSGO and TF2 having user run economies? The claim that kids are buying limited items and \"losing\" money is also insanely stupid too, the items aren't just dropping in value the next day. They retain their value. Furthermore, the \"vulnerable kids\" buying the items are usually apathetic to the trading system (meaning they don't even use it) and instead just wear the items to look cool. There is no significant harm being caused by letting players resell their limiteds on roblox or trade them. It's just concern trolling by the original video creator to try and create controversy. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nModeration on roblox is also very strict, most users know of the chat infamously being censored by hashtags, games using copyrighted branding being forced to change their names (an example being shinobi life) or being taken down altogether (pokemon brick bronze). The weird part of the video is how the video creator tries to act like roblox is not cracking down on games against TOS, like sex games. When they DO. Users are persistent and just try to mask their games and avoid it being deleted, but the games are taken down usually hours after they are uploaded. (that's why those games that break TOS also have discord servers to send announcements to new game links, because the game link changes so often). Also, why does the video creator try hold roblox responsible for conversations that happen on DISCORD? That is discord's responsibility to moderate, NOT ROBLOX. It's unrealistic and insane to expect roblox to moderate content off platform that they can't even verify to be true. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nThe video is just a big hit piece with really poor research done. Alarm bells were already ringing in my head about this video being bad when the video creator claimed rolimons was a blackmarket website. There's probably more wrong with this video that I've forgotten to address because of the sheer volume of incorrect information that the video has in it.", "Exactly. The video is either just poorly researched/out of touch, or the creator is just bad faith with some sort of agenda against roblox.", "> Please, elaborate what I'm misunderstanding.\n\nIt's pretty simple. If your kid is doing something, it is your responsibility to know what. You don't just hand them a hand saw and expect the manufacturer to take responsibility when they cut their hand off. You don't give them the keys to a car and sue Ford when they crash it. The parent needs to take responsibility for their child's actions.\n\nYou keep trying to pawn that responsibility at anyone else. Roblox has no way to monitor or deal with communication that occurs off of their platform.\n\n>If it is purely a legal obligation you're talking about, the entire point becomes moot, because the whole video is condemning Roblox from a moral point of view\n\nWhat moral point of view? Are you as mad at Amazon for AWS having the same problem? People create servers there all the time and harass and abuse their employees. Are you mad at Steam for allowing a platform where known abusers profit off of the games they sell there? What is the \"moral\" obligation that Roblox has for things that don't occur within their sphere?\n\n>So, you think the parents have a moral responsibility - and, as comes with any responsibility, a freedom - to raise their child.\n\nYou think they don't? That's pretty telling if you think that parents don't bear responsibility for their children.\n\n>a company like Roblox apparently can't be blamed for exploiting children\n\nDo tell, what exploitation is occurring that Roblox is responsible for? I think you've confused other people exploiting the children and Roblox being the hosting platform. In which case, I'm sure you're just as angry at every single other hosting provider everywhere in the world, yes?\n\n> Do I misunderstand your point?\n\nYes. Intentionally too I think. You have ignored everything I've said in order to make incredibly irrelevant straw man arguments or worse, in order to feel some kind of moral highground. But in reality, you are trying to pawn the care of children off on third parties. This is the same kind of moral outrage that conservatives levy at TV because the shows aren't wholesome and thus they can't sit their child down in front of the TV to babysit them.", "Can never have too many dudes, Dude <3", "I completely agree. I played ROBLOX when I was a kid, and while I’m not a programmer now, it was a great exposure to the general principles of programming. Saying that they need to be “regulated” as child labor is completely insane.", "Nice reading comprehension.\n\nIm literally arguing that you can use both names interchangeably. \n\nThe person i replied to argued that you should only use one of the terms. Glad to see you agree with me though.", "What is wrong with you, how can you not see the nuance? Abuse of power is not the same as wanting to use that power.\n\nAbuse is using that power to get people to act a certain way around you, or punishing people for things that exist in a grey area where its not exactly clear whether it is against the rules or not.\n\nWould you call a cop pathetic for wanting to catch murderers, rapists or pedophiles?\n\nMods have power because they are expected to use it. Its their job to use it. I also said that I never used it and I hated being a Mod. So thanks for calling me names i guess.", "> The person i replied to argued that you should only use one of the terms.\n\nBut why would you care enough to throw such a tantrum if you consider them interchangeable?\n\nIf you want to go hard in the paint arguing for using Nazis' preferred branding, you do you. Just curious why.", "Because im getting triggered when uneducated americans try to force their viewpoints on other people.\n\nNational socialism is literally the term used all over Europe. If people in the US are too uneducated to realise national socialism =/= socialism, it doesnt mean the rest of the world has to change the way they talk. It means people in the US need to educate themselves.\n\nThat guy who started the conversation was the most eregrious case of being confidentially incorrect i have seen all year.", "Dude, you're a freak, you were moderating a fucking chat box and it went to your head\n\nYou shouldn't even be allowed to own a fucking goldfish lmfao\n\nGood lord, you're so fucking cringe you can't even see the light out of the tunnel, god help your fucking soul lmao", "You are literally what everyone makes fun of about \"moderators\" \n\nYou're nothing, you were nothing when you had that \"position\" and you're still nothing now after it.\n\nGet a fucking real hobby you fucking basement dwelling troll", "Read some Umberto Eco, Ian Kershaw, and Robert O. Paxton, if you're tired of sounding like an ignorant fool on fascism", "Dudebro thanks for understanding", "He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about", "see id be more than happy to, but then you decided to act like a pretentious cunt right at the end there x", "There is a big difference between this and the minecraft example you raise, I think. Here, the \"unregulated managers\" aren't kids who make teams of developers to create a fun free mod. It's adults who exploit kids because the games aren't free, they're worth tens of thousands of dollars a month.\n\n\nI've worked for free on fun mods, on private servers managed by little groups, and I've participated in games \"stock markets\" when I was a kid (worth noting my brother got addicted and spent/lost 3000€ on this \"stock market\"). Here, the situation just seems to get out of control, and nothing is made in order to fix it.\n\n\nI think lots of games have similar characteristics, but the scales of those on roblox seem disproportionate and in my mind, that's when it becomes an issue. Also, contrary to every mod I've ever seen before the controversial attempt by bethesda to monetize them, those are actually pay to play, with microtransactions, and move a huge amount of money.\n\n\nRoblox understands all this very well, this is orchestrated perfectly to make a maximum of profit with no care at all about the wellbeing and security of children.", "\"Show and teach me what you're doing, or you won't be allowed to do it. If you feel uncomfortable showing me, then it's probably too sketchy for me to allow\"..\n\nHow hard is that?", "Minecraft consolidated in the same way, with older and older children, eventually late teens, and young adults, being able to manage bigger and bigger servers. The top servers back in the day were making over 7 figures per year, and that still doesn't constitute a large business.\n\nFor a \"business\" making tens of thousands of dollars a month - that really is pocket change. Think about how much your average developer costs - call it $120-$150k for entry level. That alone is over $10k/mo after all expenditures and overhead - so you don't really have a budget to run this truly professionally anyway.\n\nWhat we have here is player volunteers working on a project together, and if they're successful, making some nice pocket change. There's a thin tail of people making big money on Roblox the same way there was in Minecraft - but these big servers don't employ children - they want to remain competitive and employ better talent, and pay accordingly better.\n\nBut to be, I just don't see this being exploitive - I honestly think most people working on these projects do it as a labor of love.", "wtf", "That seems reasonable, but I'm definitely conflicted with that method because I did learn a lot by doing sketchy stuff that my parents didn't find out until later.", "Yeah, I saw that a couple weeks ago actually. I looked into it, but unfortunately, it's not quite the same. It's missing the main feature. It's just a weird, hollow shell. It actually creeps me out.", "Oh no doubt, I'll agree with that entirely, Roblox is just plain predatory. I was just talking about the creativity comment.", "You don't seem to realize how much Roblox is bigger than Minecraft. There are more than 10 times the peak Minecraft daily players, spending a lot more than the did in Minecraft (10/100 times more). It makes it 3 orders of magnitude more profitable than Minecraft, so the organization is much less friendly.\n\nI'm talking about lone adults \"managing\" kids and getting somewhat passive income when they're not doing any actual work, because the kids don't know better, that'll teach them life, right?\n\nIt can work because Minecraft servers where much less volatile, you had to get a quality product and be in it for the long run. Making a successful Roblox game is like making a viral TikTok, you just do a lot of what works and you'll get it right somehow. And one month later, your game is forgotten, rince, repeat.", "even before the first video i knew roblox model was somewhat exploitative but got damm that is on an whole other level.", "Am I blind or did Roblox not pressure, or even ask the authors to remove their video? The email at 2:25 says \"Do you plan on editing or removing the video based on some of the things the author raises?\" Roblox are scumbags, but that's not even a request to take the video down, let alone pressure.\n\nI know it's a minor point, just kind of a weird thing to focus the title on given there is this whole massive list of Roblox doing awful exploitative things.", ">Roblox should control everything kids do on the internet\n\nIf that's your takeaway you should definitely watch or rewatch the video", "Working full time does not mean you have literally zero free time to spend with your kids. Obviously some parents have less free time than others, but unless you're working 16 hour days 7 days a week or are physically located elsewhere (military tour, etc), most parents have at least a few hours a week they get to spend with their kids.\n\nAlso they're not suggesting a time frame for learning these engines. Learning it over the course of a year or two is still learning it.", "Yup, even parents who are working multiple jobs still have some free time to spend with their kids. There are not many people working 18 hour days 7 days a week and those that are probably don't have kids...", "I am not a game developer, but 2 weeks at an hour a day? 14 cumulative hours to learn a game engine? Is it really that fast?", "I don't think anyone's suggesting to hold it against someone who didn't learn game development alongside their kids. Just that it's something they could try as a bonding opportunity with their kids.", "That would be true 20, even 10 years ago, but many parents of today grew up with computers and smartphones and video games everywhere (mileage may vary depending on location and financial background, of course). In many cases a parent might be more equipped to learn game development than their kid, even if they don't have much background in gaming.", "This is a good initiative, but I'd see if you could cut this in half or less. News stations get loads of emails, they need to be hooked within the first 30 seconds or minute of reading to know if it's worth spending resources on. Also worth putting the video at the top so they know this is coming from existing research and not just some bent up fan trying to get back at a game studio.", "re: player counts and player spending, it's hard for me to draw a fair comparison as I don't know the numbers for Roblox. But I do know that there were whales in MC who would spend thousands of dollars a month at the donation store.\n\nBut what I don't think is a fair comparison is saying that you needed a \"quality product\" for MC. You could just dump a few thousand dollars into ads or sponsorships and get players, regardless of the quality of the content", "I have no idea what Roblox is but I don't see the problem honestly, obviously there is a problem but I don't see why it is Roblox's problem that would be like someone complaining about Sony because some other game company who is making a game on playstation was doing something shady. or blaming youtube because some company wasn't paying their staff correctly. Roblox, Sony and Youtube just created the platform but you are working for an external company. Your issue is with them not Roblox. Maybe I'm missing something though.", "I like the cut of your jib.", "Yeah what I want to say is that when people are in your server, you've done most of the job (maybe it's actually easy like you say). You just have to push updates and people who invested a lot will stay in your server or they loose it all (or have to trade somehow but that's not really easy to leave).\n\n\nIn Roblox you keep your cosmetics through all games you play, so players jump from one game to another without care, it's really hard to keep them engaged, so you just create more and more games. People who created a game get a one time shitty payday after \"managers\" get their cut and jump ship to find more kids to \"manage\"", "Very true... if I had understanding parents, it would have been very good to have some guidance though... I had some close calls", "Interesting meta game with the managers though, Minecraft had like “optimizers” that would do something similar", "I dont really care if a pedophile calls me names. I'm still the better person.", "Definitely the opposite. Number of gambling addicts have dropped drastically compared to boomers. I was trading in Runescape for real money (using brothers) in grade 6. Let kids make money, spend it on dumb crap, and learn from it so that when they're and adult and have their first paycheck, the understand how money and savings work.", "There's that projection again.\n\nYou might want to have that analyzed.", "I dont think you know what projection is. You know the word, and that's a good start, but you need to know the definition to use it properly.", "Uh huh.", "I was hoping more for something that is really like old Roblox. It just use to basically be nerds who liked bricks and using imagination and freedom to make up cool shit despite limitations, locked mostly in Lego aesthetic. And to easily share your world and join it and play online. I liked getting cosmetics from other users and the devs, while it kept its lego theme.\n\nCurrent Roblox obviously has 100% lost this entirely. \n\nHalf of a game is its aesthetics. There's just no.. \"social nerdy brick game\" that exists anymore.", "Sure.. they are guilty in a similar way as Youtube, Twitch, TikTok, Reddit, Instagram, Discord.. etc. are. Any platform that can potentially have children (or really any naïve contractor) create the content that enables their business model are as guilty of it. Which is basically all social media.\n\nI'm not excusing it, but as I said, the interesting story isn't trying single out Roblox as has having liability because of what a company/gamedev team did that uses the platform .. or that inappropriate conversations happened on Discord but they met via Roblox... it's that the internet operates in a weird area that is really, really hard to regulate. That the overall situation that isn't limited to a single platform is the issue and trying to spread awareness or find solutions to that would be dope.", "i started messing around with computers when i was 3, i am now studying computer science at university, are my parents idiots?", "Lol did this comment trigger your fragile ego? Yes, you’re a dumbass too LOL", "If you only trade morally good companies, you won't be trading much", "i dont know how you extrapolated that im insecure about studying cs, but sure dude. have a good day to you too.", "Oh, and if you haven’t, please disable the chat feature as that never goes well.", "This was my experience as well. After checking it out I said you're not touching the pay to play portion of this game because it's trash and exploitative, and chat must remain off at all times. He asked if he could spend his own allowance on it, and I said no because this game is trying to take advantage of you and it's my job as your parent to not let that happen. As you said it has red flags everywhere as soon as you open it. If more parents would check out what their kid is doing, this company would have never had the opportunity to morph into such a beast.\n\nBesides exploiting children, the content is objectively crappy. I could find something with better graphics and controls on a Commodore 64. Just look at the items that poor kid spent his near $1000 earnings on. The allure of anything in that game is 100% psychological manipulation that preys upon children's insecurities and desire to belong, and surely that must be illegal when it involves marketing thousand dollar pixels to children. \n\nI will never understand the appeal. To hear this atrocity is worth more than Nintendo--a company that has been releasing quality games for so many years--is extremely depressing.", "Agreement all around. \n\nI tried opting out of the pay to play parts, and limiting it to the preteen curated mode, but games list doesn't fucking filter out the non-curated and/or payment games. \n\nThis meant every time we'd click a game it wouldn't let us play (and it doesn't label them as curated or not on the list) so finding a game my kid could actually play took FOREVER. \n\nEven then, as you said, it was almost always a complete garbage game. Why waste the time and money? Instead, just let her play something of quality. \n\nIf anyone's wondering games you can play with a 5yo (preferrably with local co-op) we've had best luck with Minecraft (although... it's now very \"buy this extra stuff\", but easily blocked), Garden Paws, Crashlands, any LEGO game, Disneyland Adventures (actually very good if kiddo has a sibling like 2yo+; 2nd player auto follows 1st and can only help not hinder), New Super Lucky's Tale, Stardew Valley, and Terraria.", "Absolutely. Never allowed the chat function. It’s like a Lord of the Flies in those interactions. They play with close friends and family members and talk over the phone with them while they play.", "Yes, there are so many better choices out there. For kids who are a bit older, Valheim is another really good one with a co-op mode and servers you can join. Mine are 8 and 10 and they love it.", "Loot boxes are literal gambling. You have a percent chance to get a certain drop. Paying for a skin that then grows in value later isn't literal gambling. You aren't very bright.", "Honestly, I wish people would stop falling into the trap of blaming everything on the opposite political party and talk normally", "It's a massive pet peeve of my own, but I do genuinely say that (in the context of the article). 99% of the time, you either were a (genuine) fascist, were there exploiting kids to nonce on them, or both. \n\nEither way, the crux of it is kids are very easily prey to these people, and it should be a far bigger concern.", "No one cares stfu", "Bro that literally isn't true, look at any rust youtube video, they're sponsored by skin gambling sites, there are still hundreds out there. It's not self managed at all. Google steam skin gambling and you get so many. The sites give people extra money if they put the url to their site in their steam name. You see it all the time. Steam doesn't give a single fuck.", "There's some good articles on how it wasn't until the start of the 2010s that video games and online culture became a new recruitment and ideology drive for Nazi groups such as Stormfront (hell Stormfront even had a guide on how to infiltrate online communities and suss out who was recruitable). The reason for this was before internet became mainstream Nazism in the US was done in two main flavors, Nazi gangs that ran drugs, and old guard Nazis that collaborated with other white supremacist and militant groups. Really makes you wish we had classes in school that taught about this type of shit and how not to wind up getting recruited by skinheads online.", "Lol.... \n\nBecause pointing out private citizens burning down the small businesses of other private citizens is extremist makes me the extemist?\n\nY'all are loony.....", "And the left isn't doing the exact same fucking thing? \n\nOf course this will devolve into name calling because you can't bring government statistics into an argument these days, but please do look it up and tell me over the last 5 years each year how many unarmed white people cops have shot versus how many unarmed black people cops have shot..... You'll probably then say something about how ratio difference in population, but then I'll tell you okay, then let's also cross reference that with police interactions..... because the left is always saying how black people have to deal with the cops so much more, which is absolutely true, but I'm pretty sure that starts to even out the population difference since they have so many more personal encounters with cops than white people do and, yet, cops still shoot more unarmed white people every year....... But I don't see anyone starting riots or burning down cities anytime one of those white people gets killed while unarmed....... \n\nBut yet you literally have politicians, and now even the vice president of the United States of America, donating to the bail funds to get literal arsonists out..... people who have now been charged, convicted, and sentenced for arson and a host of other felony crimes. Crimes that they mostly committed against other citizens owning small businesses and not against corporate America or even the actual government/police that they were supposedly protesting against.......\n\nAnd then go ahead and look up just how many of the small businesses they burned in 2020 were actually owned by black people....... \n\n\nBut yeah we're totally the ones listening to talking heads convincing us to go out and do extreme shit over our non-existent problems right? \n\nIt's totally the just right that constantly gets fed and misinformation and then reacts in extreme ways to that misinformation..............\n\nYou know you started off okay by saying that there were plenty of us out there that realized both sides were bullshit, but then you couldn't even help yourself, the very next fucking paragraph you went straight back into that bullshit - making it out as if it's mostly only one side......", "And with that lame (five day old) response, it sounds like the first impression of you was right on the money. You the type that goes for a little light treason? You’re a seditionist aren’t you?", "christ dude, how the hell can you get that heated to the point of calling people \"pathetic\" Over virtually nothing lmao.\n\nYou said that dude is cringe but the only person spurging out here is you my dude, the other guy was chill and had some hindsight to admit he acted badly and you are out here making yourself look like a clown lol.\n\nGo outside, touch some grass and stop getting that easily heated man, that's not healthy for ya.", "What? Noone pays anyone to make anything", "There were always microtransactions in roblox games. people would make t shirts and make it so only people who bought that t shirt and wore it could only go in a certain area or obtain a certain item or something.", "Ah yeah I do remember the vip shirts", "The thing is, I know which government statistics you want to bring up - and that's exactly my point. Have you looked at them with any degree of nuance? Have you ever, instead of looking at them at face value and blaming the race, looked at them and blamed the factors that have caused them? I've been on the extreme right, and I know for a fact you get tunnel vision from what people say the problems are, rather than looking at the problems succinctly yourself.\n\nThe fact is that if you are poor, destitute, desperate, you commit crime, and that's disproportionately so - look at it from that perspective, and you realise the issue is far less race, and much more the fact that wealth is incredibly top heavy in America. Opportunities are simply not afforded to the poor, and chances are if you are poor then you're stuck in a loop of being poor. If you receive an opportunity that's less than legal for leaving the loop, chances are you'd take it.\n\nBut that's aside from the fact they've been targeted specifically on the basis of race by police officers - obviously, you can't generalise and say not all police officers, because it isn't. The police function like unions and brotherhoods, because any threat to their structure is met with a threat to strike. What doesn't help is the fact that American police aren't trained nowhere near enough as for instance European police, where more often than not you have to be trained long enough akin to having a law degree. It doesn't mean they don't have similar issues, since they're human, but having untrained gun toting meatheads isn't the best course forward, surprisingly.\n\nI don't like BLM as an organisation, I think it's an echo chamber for shitty beliefs and an excuse to commit crimes in the safety of a political safety net. That doesn't mean that the issues are any less present, and don't need acting upon. American politicians however are more loyal to their chances of getting reelected, and that stems more from lobbyists than the actual electorate.\n\nThis is what we call the best take, by sitting in the centre and realising that everybody else is being an idiot.", "Congress needs to take these guys to court and ask them a few questions.", "Roblox may seem The Innocents Of A game. Really if you say some stuff against roblox, will try to end what you posted stay safe guys,", "No, it's with Roblox.", "Parents don't decide the 80%-20% revenue split that roblox has for developers. Roblox should stop exploiting kids monetarily and actually prevent the predators on their platform from earning money.\n\nSure, I can tell my daughter she can't play roblox. But the doc is still making games for roblox as a head developer despite expressing to minors how he wants to fuck them. You think that's on parents?", "> Parents don't decide the 80%-20% revenue split that roblox has for developers.\n\nHow can someone miss the point SO MUCH? Parents should evaluate if they want their kids to be exploited like that. If they don't, DON'T ALLOW THEIR KIDS TO PLAY IT.\n\n> Sure, I can tell my daughter she can't play roblox.\n\nOhhh so now you can.\n\n> But the doc is still making games for roblox as a head developer despite expressing to minors how he wants to fuck them.\n\nThis is a completely different subject and if it wasn't on Roblox, he would be harassing minors somewhere else (until Chris Hansen caught him I guess?). It us up to parents to make sure children are not exposed to platforms, be it games or online chat, that allows that - or at least monitor very closely.\n\nYES it is on parents, how can you be so stupid? Are you actually a parent? God I hope not.", "Good analysis. You're correct. The video is just trying to profit from the situation by monetizing on a click bait content.", "You sound like a corporate lawyer trying to exonerate a company from all responsibility lmao. Yes, I am a parent. That doesn't mean the millions of kids who have parents playing roblox shouldn't be exploited the way they are.\n\nSo that revenue split sounds legit to you? Roblox shouldn't change it at all? Roblox is this company on a pedestal whose done nothing wrong and you just think all millions of parents kids who develop/play are bad parents? Get over yourself.", "> So that revenue split sounds legit to you? Roblox shouldn't change it at all?\n\nNo. There is such a thing as FREEDOM. I don't agree with it. I won't spend time and effort on Roblox. I will not allow my child to spend time and money in it - playing it, maybe, but I'd have to look into the details. YOU have to own into your responsibilities. If people don't agree with it, they won't do it and the company will suffer the consequences. That simple. Or are you saying people are idiots and should be protected by the government? If so, then maybe democracy shouldn't be a thing because those same idiots get a vote.\n\n> and you just think all millions of parents kids who develop/play are bad parents?\n\nYeah pretty much. Lots of people who needed to be sterilized. Too late for you but still...", "I really don't think anything you said actively discredits any criticisms against roblox or their practices. From me or the video or anyone elses. \n\nI'm not letting my kid play roblox lmao, but you're acting as if I'm a failed parent just because I'm calling out scummy practices. You really are all talking about responsibility but want absolutely none taken for your corporate friend here.", "The game is addicting to so many kids/teens and the pandemic blew it up even more. So many kids make money making clothes and games on roblox which in return roblox gets the cut. Also Tiktok made roblox kinda blow up even more during the pandemic bc so many kids were making games during covid and advertising it it on tiktok. Roblox has a never ending supply of money with kids/teens running the show. It goes deeper than you think... There are even discord servers of kids selling like \"mod powers\" in their games for real money. And dont even get me started on the dark side of roblox....", "Yeah roblox blew up big during the pandemic especially from TikTok. So many roblox tiktoks went viral during this time. Like alot. All you had to do was put #roblox on a tiktok and it would get thousands of likes and interactions.", "Same but I never like the company. I'm part of allot of sugar baby websites and the amount of kids on there asking roblox cash made me not trust the site.", "wtf are you talking about millenials?\n\nthe current generation of kids is gen z, and the vast majority of people with elementary-school aged kids are gen x\n\nmost millenials are like 30", "you don't let your child play a harmless video game with her friends because the creators give the kids unfair profit shares?\n\ndoes your kid give a shit about any of that?", "what a completely bullshit misleading take.\n\nthe vast majority of kids on roblox are just playing the fucking games - not making them. this video doesn't apply to anyone who doesn't make games or care about making money - which is almost all of the kids playing roblox", "Damn, you sure do complain a lot. Your last 10 messages are anger filled. \n\nThat said, you know that many millennials had sex and had babies by age 23, right? If their kid is 7, then they'd be at the very bottom of the \"most millennials are in their 30s\" range that you specified. If they waited until they were 32 to have their kid... Then they'd still be in their 30s. And I think it's safe to say most people who have kids have at least one by age 32. \n\nSo that's \"what the fuck\" I'm talking about. Have a good day. Work on your anger issues.", "You mean you do?", "stopped reading your comment as soon as you admitted to being a loser who reads comment histories LMAO", "?", "My kid isnt an idiot. She also knows the game is garbage.", "then why did you make a comment about how you \"don't let her play it\" if she's the one choosing not to...?", "Because it started that way. If she wanted to, I would still prevent her, but now that she's learned the dangers of some grown people on the internet, and what more appropriate games entail, she chooses to take the advice of her father. you know- because she's being educated by someone who's been on the internet since it's inception. In this case also a parent. I'm gonna stop replying now because I dont even know why im entertaining this. Happy new year!" ]	1,574	videos	Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper by People Make Games.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfh4cq/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rfh4cq/deleted_by_user/	[ "Did he re invent a more cumbersome zoom?", "Definitely more expensive I’m sure", "He looks more \"real\" in the box, which is weird.", "this guy is completely missing his market here.\n\nwith this thing you can have beam your favorite only fans star right to your bedroom for your wanking pleasure.\n\nor have a strip club full of the most beautiful girls from across the globe all safely teleworking from there homes.", "[It's like he's right here in the room with you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YOEEpWAXgU)" ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/R_as5jUyMmU	/r/videos/comments/rfh9m3/best_villain_entrance_of_all_time/	[ "It's a Rickroll", "Ok but what movie is h this from?", "AWESOME!!!! Great work", "Treasure Planet.", "God dammit", "Rick the Great!", "Son of a...", "Someone invoking the wadsworth constant multiple times is going to be so confused.", "oh screw you", "Fuck.", "Jesus christ it's evolved", "I wanna be upset, but I acknowledge the film didn't do well.", "Motherfuck", "Ohhhhh. You got me. You got me good, kid.", "It is unfortunate. One of my favorite movies. Music in the film was fantastic.", "God damnit!", "Bravo!", "I don't think this would still be happening to me over a decade later, but here we are.", "I know this movie and saw this coming. Brilliant!" ]	19	videos	Best villain entrance of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fet_f10Tjnk	/r/videos/comments/rfhxf4/made_this_video_using_the_matrix_awakens_ps5_demo/	[ "Entirely made in[ The Matrix Awakens, a playable tech demo](https://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ) running on the Playstation 5/Xbox series which showcases the capabilities of Unreal Engine 5. Everything you see is recorded in real time in-engine using the camera mode. Nothing has been rendered. That includes these set of [images.](https://imgur.com/a/qCiV9FF)\n\nUnreal Engine 5 can let you use CGI assets from movies and basically copy and paste them into the engine without no compression or degrade in quality. Most of these assets in The Matrix Awakens tech demo are 1:1 assets from the films.", "Definitely the first time photorealistic! I Dont have a next gen console but have seen a lot of Videos and never seen something realistic in a \"game\". Ok its a techdemo but thats All i was hoping the last 25 years how Video games should evolve. Lets hope the big Studios take this as reference for now...", "It's not photorealistic, not by a long shot. But it's very good.", "The world looks real but the people are still uncanny valley.\n\nFantastic shots btw.", "Takes more than a bunch of blur to be \"photo-realistic\", my man.", "We've ALL heard and seen this before.\n\nJust wait till the game comes out to have your expectations diminished.", "PT looked significantly more realistic than this on last gen's console", "you say photorealistic, looks like GTA V (w graphics mods) to me", "such ignorance. you are ignoring all of the fantastic achievements displayed in the video. \n\nMass AI. Realistic lighting and weather. Physics simulations. Photorealism. All being rendered in realtime.", "When will computers figure out humans? This is beautiful but still uncanny. The most jarring part was the Truck passing by the bag and the bag not reacting. That would tell me I'm in the matrix.", "If I had a nickel every decade they declared something \"photorealistic\" then 10 year down the line it looks pitiful. There's a lot of trickery and smear that hide the less photorealistic shit in the scenery it's obvious how they use depth of field to mask it, and no I won't mention the people themselves because that's obvious. It's still a decent use of ray-tracing. I've just seen something declared \"photorealistic\" to later look awfully dated too many times. They used to think 3D Mark 2001 Benchmark Matrix demo was \"photorealistic\", they used to think Far Cry 1 was \"photorealistic\".", "Calling that AI is incredibly generous to the point of being false.\n\nThere is no AI there, it's entirely scripted behaviour based on probability, there is no self-determination, self-awareness or anything else that AI requires on display here.", "It's no more photorealistic than Myst.", "Do you work for them?", "nice video, dont see any \"playable\" demonstration...", "Extremely good, and UE5 is showing just how useful the film assets are, but there's a good reason that the demo is using depth of field to obscure the foreground humans. UE5's implementation is actually more jarring than not to me personally — it's got something to do with the quality between the environmental assets and the actual characters within the environment being too dissimilar in terms of quality.", "I didn't see any weather effects or Physics Simulations. And what is \"Mass AI\"? Are you talking about the NPC's walking around? \n\nThe Photorealism comes from lighting, reflections and high quality textures.", "And to think he started his post with\n\n>such ignorance\n\n!", "If you aren't aware that it is Unreal 5 and take a cursory view of the the video, the environments and object do look pretty photorealistic. Then you look at the people and they look like GTA V NPCs, and the illusion falls apart (probably why OP blurred them out).\n\nWhile we may have very well arrived at the cinema quality CGI graphics for environments and world objects, I think we are some years away for the same thing with human models. There are just too many things that make a person \"human\" that current game engines can't replicate yet.", "Because it's a blank canvas for devs to build on... Available from the jump. Freaking downer.", "Got a ton of douchebags in the chat... This tech is tremendous. And will be available FOR FREE next year.", "If someone says someone else displays ignorance, and is pedantic, they deserve to be called out for being ignorant.\n\nSaying \"it's a blank canvas\" is just a cop out. None of what he said is visible in this demo, and it certainly isn't photo realistic. It's a blank canvas as much as any other virtual world, or even a fucking IDE.", "You're bored today aren't you?", "Nope, having a great day actually, thanks for asking!", "hot take here, but...I don't think he played the demo, here's a video of the demo to clear up SOME things. (If you aren't able to play it yourself with the Ps5/Xbox), but yes Unreal Engine 5 can produce MASS AI in real-time. https://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ", "There's puddles on the ground and reflections from water on surfaces. Yes the photorealism comes from those, that's the point.", "What is the blank canvas here? The tech demo has nothing to do with AI? So how would it be a blank canvas? \n\nIf this was a tech demo showcasing AI, then it makes sense.", "I am aware. This is not photorealistic", "This isn’t a game. It’s a tech demo.", "> I think we are some years away for the same thing with human models.\n\nDo you mean graphics wise or animation wise? https://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ?t=210 (reminder, this is happening in real time, this is not rendered)\nAs seen here, graphics wise, they look pretty damn good, animation is a whole different thing. Still a tiny bit uncanny valley. Neo and Trinity were scanned using the actors. The third character in the backseat was totally made up using the metahuman creator to show that they can still hold up against people who are modeled after real people. I feel like we are very close to reaching actual photorealism. The current tech is still under development", "The scalable mass AI crowd system with 35000 agents on display here.", "Yeah, I am not arguing that the photorealism comes from those points, but that is different than a weather system. Puddles on the ground are no different than the car being red or blue. It's a design choice that was placed to achieve an artistic effect. \n\nWhat you should be pointing out, is the textures, lighting and reflections of the puddle on the ground. That's what makes it photorealistic, not that it's weather.... Hope you realize that.....", "More animation wise. If there is a still image of a person's face it can be hard to tell the difference sometimes. It's when the animations come into play that you can tell because the model just isn't moving like a person naturally would.", "K.", "Saw the glitch in the Matrix from 1:55-1:59 in the crosswalk.", "Thanks for posting this link, you just proved his point. There is no ai, shown in either videos. Everything is scripted. The tech demo is literally an on-the-rails shooter. There isn't even a point at which you are supposed to look at the NPC's. \n\nThe original video you posted was created using the free-fly camera mode in UE5! There is no AI in this demo. It's all scripted experiences....\n\nWhy is this even a hill you need to defend? The demo having AI or not, isn't even the point. It's to show that high quality texture streaming and real-time ray tracing can happen on consoles when properly optimized with UE5.", "Did you read the title? OP is expecting games to look exactly like this. They won't.\n\nThey NEVER turn out like the tech demo.\n\nI should have expected this response from you... Sneaky.\n\nAre you a cop?", "What if the Matrix is just Unreal 10", "No there is AI, hence the NPC's walking around.", "Ok... \n\nHow is it Scalable?\n\nWhat is Mass AI?\n\nWhere is the Mass AI shown in either videos? \n\nWhere did you get 35,000 agents on display from?\n\nand lastly... You do know the tech demo is an on-the-rails shooter, with no AI, and these NPC props were captured using a free-cam mode to exit the scripted area..... which is why all they are doing is walking in a set path... which is why if you fly two streets down, there are no NPC's... which is why the NPC's don't react to anything.... which is why the npc's disappear when they reach the end of their walk cycle....\n\nSo please, tell me where is the \"AI\" here...\n\nYou can literally download the tech demo yourself and see the code for the NPC entities, is set to move the object from one area to the other, and play a walk animation as it does. There literally is no decision making, they are no different from the puddles on the ground.", "> May be the first time in gaming history where we achieved photorealistic graphics that is playable.\n\n[nope.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3DEM6XDDTk&t=11s)", "https://youtu.be/CqXKSyAPWZY\n\nAn indepth view of Niagara, the system shown.", "Those trees tell me nanite still doesn't work with foliage, which is sad. hopefully they fix that soon.", "NPC's walking around aren't AI... They are NPC's.... \n\nThey are literally just preset objects, textured to look like people, and set to move from one destination to the other, while playing an animation of a walk cycle. \n\nThat is not AI. Please stop spreading misinformation. The tech demo is impressive without you spreading bullshit about it. Just stick to what it actually does. High quality texture streaming...\n\nFor an actual impressive AI system, look at GTA. Cars will react to traffic lights, to police sirens, they can get pulled over, or start street races. All of that is governed by a decision making process. None of that is happening here.", "Damn this makes me miss jumping around the city in The Matrix Online.", "> OP is expecting games to look exactly like this. They won't.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ?t=283\n\nhttps://youtu.be/fukYzbthEVU", "Yup, and none of that is happening here..... \n\nThat is a great feature of UE5, but not present in this tech demo... focused on lighting and textures....", "And all he did was briefly mention the \"mass AI\" system. You and others are playing semantics games to start a meaningless argument.", "Take a look at 0:30 in your video. You see a plastic bag and some trash sit perfectly still as cars go right next to it at high speed. Even in stills, almost none of those frames look right.\n\nThis demo has some bits that look very good, but it's highly inconsistent.", "The people wouldn't be so bad if their walks weren't so fucking weird. Is it really that hard to animate people walking at a normal pace? Plenty of other games do it fine lol", "You did see the original comment right? \n\n> \"such ignorance. you are ignoring all of the fantastic achievements displayed in the video.\"\n\nHe wanted to call people ignorant, he deserves to be shown his ignorance. \n\nBut hey at least you and I were able to agree.", "> For an actual impressive AI system, look at GTA. Cars will react to traffic lights, to police sirens, they can get pulled over, or start street races. All of that is governed by a decision making process. None of that is happening here.\n\nThat's happening in the demo and that's no different than 'scripted' AI in the demo fyi", "PT was a couple of dull hallways and bedrooms. It's not hard to make small photorealistic interiors.", "Oh, in that case then it is an AI system, but the videos still don't show that. All they show is basic pathing at best. Do you have any videos that show the AI system like I described?", "Where this engine fails is the way characters look/animate. It's not bad, but it pulls you out of the immersion more than the static objects. Everything else is amazing.", "https://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ?t=192\n\nthe characters look pretty good tbh", ">PT was ~~a couple of dull hallways and bedrooms. It's not hard to make small~~ photorealistic ~~interiors.~~\n\nAgreed", "the fact that there is weather and photorealistic textures are two different things. the point is that the weather dynamically changes the environment. It's raining? Puddles form. Sun comes out? Puddles dry up.", "Yes but if you look at Lord of the Rings, which is 20 years old, even today that looks mostly photorealistic. It's about how you apply the techniques rather than the tools itself. Bad application gets you The Hobbit.", "Ok, can you post a timestamp where it is raining? Where the environment changes? Puddles form? Sun comes out? Puddles dry up? Any of these? \n\nOr are you just assuming that the tech demo has all this?\n\n.... that would be rather... ignorant.....", "There are more forms of AI than just self-awareness. This is Reactive AI, programmed to respond to the input it receives.", "LMAO.\n\nYes I've seen that. I've been around long enough to see ALL the early gameplay demos...\n\nAnd then I see their release package, final build.\n\nGood luck", "Photorealism is an aesthetic. We can't achieve real-time render that's 1:1 in fidelity to real life, especially not on consoles. Photorealism often has been used for marketing purposes because it does want to be photorealistic but what they mean by it is the aesthetic they've adopted. In short it's a marketing buzzword to promote a piece of tech or a game. Max Payne 1 is a photorealistic game and it came out in 2001, they literally use high-fidelity photographed assets as textures.", "I have puddles with reflections on my Pikmin game.\n\nPHoTo ReALiSm", "Wtf new AI ps5 controllers?", "Sure fucking sounds like it, eh?", "The skepticism is warranted, but there is one thing that I could add to help his side of the argument.\n\n\nThis is not from a \"gameplay trailer\" or similar, the footage you see in the video can run at any PS5 or Next Gen Xbox you can get your hands on, so it's different to the E3 \"demos\" that we see looking insane in the trailers and then getting downgraded.\n\nOf course, I'm talking about Matrix Awakens, Hellblade is a prerecorded video and could be downgraded. I still don't doubt that they showed the real thing, though. \n\nIf they managed to get an open world with that level of fidelity running on Next Gen (albeit at 30FPS) then I can only imagine how a linear game would look considering the extra attention to detail you can add while focusing on a single path compared to an entire map.", "You’d think they’d figure out walking considering how great everything else looks.", "as long as they aren't walking around", "> are you just assuming that the tech demo has all this?\n\nNo, not assuming. Unreal Engine 5 tech does have this", "Kinda disappointed. The video of the city was better I think. Got my hopes up for dialogue cutscenes. The way their faces and mouths in particular move isn’t great.\n\nStill insane how close they are.", "Its apparent this is the only video you've seen of UE5. there are more videos out that show the weather dynamics and more of the features in-depth.. \n\nyou mentioned ignorance..?", "ah yea for sure, here's a link https://youtu.be/iY1jnFvHgbE", "I don't think it's even that good. Look at [0:08](https://youtu.be/Fet_f10Tjnk?t=8), if you look into the background, that whole building face is just solidly lit despite the shot giving the appearance that light should be hitting it mostly face on. You should see tons of shadows all over that building from the windows and trees in front of it, and we don't see anything.\n\nThe overcast shots are clearly the best when they don't need to account for over-all shadows casted by literally anything/everything. I think we've come an incredible way in like 2 decades, but I also think we also have a really long way to go before \"photo-realistic\" is the case. We can generate pre-rendered objects and shots with photo-realism, but a living/breathing world is definitely still a little while off.", "you didn't hear? they read your mind", "> I still don't doubt that they showed the real thing, though.\n\nThey confirmed it was 100% gameplay during the game awards presentation and it also says gameplay as well on title btw. It's using UE5 like The Matrix Awakens demo", "Yeah, it's a linear game so it can look pretty impressive, when you add stuff like the Nanite tech into the mix then you can make a linear map with nearly infinite level of detail into the textures.", "\"The people wouldn't be so bad if their walks weren't so fucking weird. Is it really that hard to animate people walking at a normal pace? Plenty of other games do it fine lol\" \n\n\nYes, it's that hard. First off, they can't just steal rigged off animations from other games. I'm sure they spent more time on the graphics on this game rather than the animation.", "I'm just a person excited by new technology man", "I was trying to figure out why you're getting so much hate and then remembered the PC master race hates it when consoles are championed as anything other than hot garbage. \n\nSo ignore the haters, they are just really really jealous! \n\nIf you made the video. Good job!", "wow... those are weird looking timestamps? \n\nFor someone who said, \n\n>such ignorance. you are ignoring all of the fantastic achievements displayed in the video\n\nYou sure are having trouble timestamping the fantastic achievement displayed in the video... \n\nSo yes... I did mention ignorance :)\n\nYou still want to keep digging this hole? LMAO", "haha nono, I'm not getting the hate. They are hating on the technology that the video uses (which is still in development and not final), and a couple just showing the state of their mental health, nothing personal. And thank you!", "Ooof you seriously think it looks photorealistic, come talk to me in 20 years lol", "Unreal tech yes.... not the matrix tech demo.... LIKE I HAVE BEEN SAYING.\n\nI don't know why some of you are so dense. I never said that this tech doesn't exist. I said it's not being shown here. \n\nUE5 has some massively impressive improvements to many aspects of game design. This tech demo doesn't even showcase all of them. Which is why Epic makes Multiple Tech Demos to show off the various capabilities. \n\nI keep asking for people that are pointing out the AI, to timestamp it in videos of this tech demo. But that isn't possible, because this isn't a tech demo to show off, the capabilities of AI, it was a tech demo to showcase the rendering and texture streaming capabilities.\n\nIt's the same thing for weather....", "Sorry, I meant an AI system in this tech demo... I know this tech exists, my point is that this tech demo doesn't showcase it.\n\nYou said it's happening in this demo, then linked to a different tech demo....", "I love how there's no plants whatsoever. They captured the off-putting nature of the Matrix really well. The color tone too. Looks great", ">Are you a cop\n\nDid you take your meds today", "really grasping with that title", "unlike you, I am not basing all of my knowledge of UE5 on this demo alone. you have chosen to ignore the other more in-depth demos that can show you what I've mentioned. \n\nwhat's the definition of ignorance? how bout confirmation bias? \n\nthe point of this video wasn't to display anything but the photorealism. However, that doesn't mean the things I mentioned aren't displayed in the video. You just don't have time to see all of the mechanics here. Which is why I say, if you are truly curious (I have a feeling you're not), you can seek out the information you're asking for in other videos and see for yourself.", "Psst... Look At his name", "man i thought a lot while watching this. the biggest one, kinda off topic, i now understand what it feels like to be mentally old. i have to go out and learn what the world is becoming. i no longer just live and know what is popular and common knowledge. i have to go out and learn what it is.\n\ni dont know what \"good songs are\". what \"good movies are\". what \"good video games are\". i know what i like, what i'm used to. but i don't know came up and people are talking about now. \n\n\nbecause i'm at that age where i know enough already to make my own movies/music/videos/etc, or i have to seek out and learn what the new stuff is. if i don't, i'm just left behind.\n\ni don't know why this video made me think of this.", "I mean IDK I knew a class of undergraduate animators who could do more natural walks. All these characters had the exact same walk so at the very least they could've done one good one and copy-pasted just to avoid how jarring it is.", "Apparently you haven't played Death Stranding.", "I feel like you're using a different definition of photorealism. I think most people consider photorealism to be not just any attempt to emulate a real life scene, but something that is actually difficult to distinguish from a real life scene. If you played a clip from this game vs. Max Payne 1, some people might be fooled by this game, but nobody would be fooled by the game from 20 year ago.", "Came for the matrix, stayed for the Radiohead", "Mocap like 20 people walking and randomize that stride between every NPC person.", "thats not photo realistic lol. What kind of photos are you people looking at 0o", "The graphics are photorealistic but everything is way off. The character animations are janky, missing physics when cars were driving past the plastic bag there were no movement, lightning of the scenes felt off.\n\nThere are a lot of things that can and will be improved in the next few years that isnt higher graphic resolution etc but the other things that are as important to make the digital world feel real.", "Want to record someone walking normally? You won't get that by saying \"hey walk normally\".", "I thought that was acting 101. Walk across the stage normally.", "This looks fantastic and I'm really excited to see what the industry does with this tech over the next 5-10 years. As others said, the character animations are a bit jarring and there are a few other things here and there that don't look quite right, but this is still really cool. As someone whose first console was an NES it blows my mind to see how far game engines have come.\n\nNice edit too btw.", "Instructions unclear, exited stage left", "Gorgeous! Love the music too.\n\nI noticed a few glitches, some noise, something that appears to be a temporal AA glitch (?) following some people.", ">there is no self-determination, self-awareness or anything else that AI requires\n\nNot that I disagree with your post but nothing that is called \"AI\" these days is self-aware or has self-determination either, it's most just machines that are very good at making correlations.", "Oh woops, here it is https://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ?t=486\n\n30,000 mass AI simulated all in real time in just the demo.", "Buy a full mocap suit, and imaging set up ($15,000 each)\n\nHire animation team trained in the software/hardware for walk cycle animations\n\nHire 20 different people (hopefully they all wear the same size) to record walk cycles)\n\nOR\n\nJust use generic cycles because the whole focus is on the environments anyway.", "Is it better than most games? Yeah.\n\nDoes it still look like they have pantyhose over their faces? Also yes.\n\nIt's also really clever using the sunglasses to cover the eyes because they are some of the hardest parts to replicate emotions with.", "Yea but PC\n\n- everybody", "Well there are trees, but they may not me the type of plants you're referring to.", "There we go! A clear cut timestamp! Thanks!", "I love everything about this comment. You are a paragon of the word irony.", "The textures and environmental assets and reflections look great. Just that shot of the trash in the ground knowing nothing about the game made me wonder if it was UE5. Where it fell flat, other than animations, was in proper shadows and AO for the NPC's too imo", "Very true, these days someone using an IF in an Excel sheet classes as AI Neural Networking Cloud Computing of Things.", "Jesus Christ that guy is irritating", "Yeah this is definitely very good but still a ways off from photorealistic. You'll notice it most with the reflections in the car windows and soft shadows under the characters. In both instances I feel like the calculations are accurate and all the data is there but it needs to be done at a higher resolution.\n\nAnother interesting one is this isn't raytracing! It's all done using their nanite system which uses a mix of screen-space and voxel global illumination which is a way of simplyfying light bouncing around surfaces.", "Or, put them in the suit, and then tell them they need to capture the motion somewhere else. Motion capture them walking there.", "The other issue with the animation here is its consistency. People stumble, and scratch their butts, and extend a stride to avoid puddles, and slow to think, and backtrack, and look around.", "I remember as a kid seeing a first person game in a Sega Genesis ad and thinking \"holy shit, they've got games just like real life!\"", "[Here's the full demo running on Xbox](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izpSH6LUpm4). At the end it hands control over to the player and allows them to free-roam the city\n\nfree-roam bit starts around 10 minutes in. [Here's a timestamped link](https://youtu.be/izpSH6LUpm4?t=597)", "They aren't developing a game, they are making powerful tools for devs to then do all that expensive work.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"The very least they could have done\"\n\nSMH", "> Is it really that hard to animate people walking at a normal pace? Plenty of other games do it fine lol\n\nGood animations = more bones = more complex rigs = more CPU dedicated to animating them ([Using fully animated smart AI 'peds' in Spiderman maxed out at 30 in the original version](https://youtu.be/KDhKyIZd3O8?t=2518)). My guess is they probably got them to a point where they had a rig just good enough to look ok as you are running/driving past a hundreds or thousands of them, but not so much they are pulling resources from other parts of the game to animate them. Could they give them all super complex rigs and make them look great? Probably, but it's not free.", "I think that could be solved by added a little noise on top of the cycles.", "That M60 has no punch at all.", "Looks like a trailer for a GTA5 ENB-preset.", "Perfect song choice.", "I thought it was. It looks nice for something that's using some other form of rasterization.", "It's that exact effect. That's why when something's called \"photorealistic\" it's a marketing thing.", "Did you see/play the UE5 Matrix demo? Absolutely no part of it focuses on pedestrians walking. Putting effort into something that is not needed makes no sense.", "I was under the impression this was a demo of the graphics in an actual game. Blame the misleading title", "So is it a game demo showing the graphical capabilities of a game, or is it an Unreal demo? The title, and yourself, make it sound like the former, in which case those poor animations are part of the game...", "It is first and foremost a tech demo.", "To be fair, Epic probably does have a professional mocap studio, or if they don't then $15,000 is a drop in the ocean for them.", "There are trees in several shots..", "They've had the same problem with human animation forever. It still looks too smooth. Maybe they could cut out some of the frames in the animation or something. They need to be more jerky. It's like it can't handle edges in animations. Everything has like a maximum speed up and slow down. Real life has much sharper animation stops and starts.", "I said the same thing with Tombraider.", "And how many games actually come out looking superior to the highly curated tech demo that came before them?", "https://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ?t=389\n\nyup you are right, it's a demo of the graphics from an actual game demo as linked above that you can download yourself. They haven't announced officially they are making a full fledged open world matrix game for now", "In that case I can sort of understand. Still, it definitely distracts from the graphical capability of UE5. Better to not have peds at all for showing static assets and lighting", "We have come so far with the textures and lighting but why does walking still look so incredibly abnormal?", "Nah, these are just not great walking animations, and then its pretty obvious they're cloned on top of that. They could definitely improve these quite a bit without needing more bones.", "I didn't see them. Got time stamps?", "Looks like some ray tracing (limited a little obviously) is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Also the bokeh effect and point of focus really drives home some of these shots. It looks amazing, but the poly count is still not quite there. That being said, to run this in real time is CRAZY.", "They're still a little low-poly, too. But with all of the ray tracing and other geometry going on, its understandable when you're rendering this in real time.", "When does the critical shit begin or end? I grew up in a time when a 16 bit game with a total file size was billionths smaller than just one minute worth of gameplay of the games we have now. Being what the atmosphere is, of course, we'll probably see massive improvement within a year (probably less) via updates. Disregard if you're a programmer with an all encompassing answer to budget and hardware limitations...Otherwise, this is hella cool for me to see evolve.", "I had the same thought. I remember when the dreamcast came out they were claiming photorealism for soul caliber and some other stuff. Same with a couple titles on the gamecube on ps2. \n\n\nThey did look really great for their time and still hold up today, but there will come a day in the not so distant future where these graphics pale in comparison to the new \"photorealism\".\n\n&#x200B;\n\nAlso, that being said, ray tracing has been a technology long in the works that brings the lighting aspect in rendering games to the level of photorealism. It's now more about processing power, poly count, and optimization. Having things reflecting light on everything around them, even if they're not a light emitting object, just the light that they reflect, really ups the realism of things.", "The paper on the street didn’t move when the car passed, totally anticlimactic lol.", "Well I mean the post is claiming photorealistic graphics and the humans walking is really the only thing giving it away", "In don't get the praise this is getting.\n\nLooks like a game to me.", "There is legit little to no gameplay. It's just a tech demo to show off the detail of the world that unreal 5 can do.", "The textures are too uniform on the large flat surfaces.", "1:30 friend", "> then 10 year down the line it looks pitiful.\n\nCrysis 1 from 2007 still looks like it could be released today.\n\nGames have reeeeeaaaaallly stagnated. Very little change from Xbox 360/PS3 through Xbox One/PS4.\n\nThis current gen of consoles, if you can get one, are more in line with a medium-range gaming PC, which is phenomenal at the console price point.\n\nI remember a few old games were touted as near-photorealism. Motocross Madness 2 comes to mind, a developer said his wife thought replays from the game were ESPN, hehe.", "For sure, that makes sense. It won't be long before it's even better 👍", "The trees are lifeless, without greenery.", "This Unreal Tech is ok... but it doesn't look as good as Fortnite!\n\n/s", "The biggest giveaway is that none of the NPCs are staring at a phone.", "Go a bit further back. [People considered this photorealistic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFOq9e_rjYU).", "As a PC-only gamer I don't see why anyone would care when it comes to tech. Exclusives are frustrating (still waiting for that PS4 Spiderman game on PC) but actual tech is useful on consoles and PC.\n\nThe consoles are more like gaming PCs in their architecture than ever before.", "Thats pretty", "I still don't know why game developers insist on just having one walking gait animation set to loop- we don't walk perfectly with each step- there's always some irregularity. \n\nHaving several walking animations with subtle variation played in a randomised sequence would be so simple to do yet would make the animation look much more realistic.", "This is a pretty big jump though honestly. For the first time, we are able to real time render extremely high polygon models. Even the chain link fences are fulled modeled. So as long as the models are done well, and the materials are good, this is going to look insane.", "Right, so you and everyone else are wrong about something that is an industry used term.", "I think the ambient occlusion is still off. Without proper raytracing levels of AO edges just don't feel right and it's very noticeable when you're looking for it in video games. I think our brains subconsciously are picking it up as well which is why video games just never look perfect like CGI in movies. It'll be a long time before gamedevs get it right and rtx isn't going to get us there any time soon for open world games.", "Now if only I could get a PS5.........someone take my money for MSRP........please.....", "Brooks was here", "Yeah, don't get me wrong it looks nice and all. I am not fully on board with photorealism as a prime aesthetic choice in gaming but looks nice.", "> Crysis 1 from 2007 still looks like it could be released today.\n\nIt doesn't though. There's a lot of techniques used today that simply didn't exist or aren't being used in Crysis from 2007. Even in the remaster you can see that there's stuff that is lacking. The game looks amazing, and it's probably one of the best looking examples of groundbreaking technology (at the time, and even nowadays it's impressive), however there's several signs that really give it away pretty quickly. Texturing/tessellation/bumpmapping/aliasing/shaders/etc.", "The depth of field was added by OP, he is using a \"cinematic\" mode that comes with the tech demo.\n\nYou are being so cynical, you sound like a troll.\n\nSo for starters not all of us were on the \"Omg graphics can't get better than this!\" like EVER. Not with Goldeneye or then Half-Life, or Silent Hill 2 or Halo or Half-Life 2 or Far Cry (which always looked like hot garbage tbh) or Crysis or Gears of War, 2010+ started looking like hot garbage actually and prefered the older engines look.\n\nSimply been impressed by graphics? All my life, but I never thought anything was getting close to \"photorealistic\" outside ACTUAL ATTEMPTS AT PHOTOREALISM and that was until 2015 real-time demos with UE4.\n\nSo SPEAK FOR YOURSELF and the cynics upvoting you. For me this demo is the first time I see Real-time photorealism in my life and I'm not arrogant to assert that I have a pretty good eye for it.", "Spot on mate; any rendered video with a focus pull is instantly deemed \"photorealistic\"", "You work against them?", "He said \"self-awareness\" unironically lmaoooo\n\nno dude, they're not actual sentient digital beings", "Cynical and ignorant, some of these \"experts\" calling out the depth of field when it was added by OP, the demo is using supersampling to create perfect background.", "this is a big deal. 98% of people you show this to would think it is a real city, that's a breakthrough for me.", "I mostly agree with you and just want to use this comment as a jumping off point to talk about aesthetics. Many games obviously don't try for photorealism and have been hugely successful. Graphics should match gameplay and many of the most successful games of all time didn't even attempt photorealism like Minecraft, Fortnite, Super Mario Odyssey or BOTW.", "Because you're looking at it from a prism of current rendering technology. I've been seeing these photorealistic tech demos since 1997. This used to be what today's photorealism is now: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg7Vk4b0Ook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg7Vk4b0Ook) in ten years we'll be saying the same shit. I'm not taking away from the technology since it's Unreal Engine 5 and it has some impressive tech behind it. It's just photorealism is a marketing buzzword. Anyway, these graphics you see in the Matrix demo will be downgraded significantally consoles can't handle this comfortably.", "Yes, I like photorealism in rally games mostly. It's just a lot of games that try for photorealistic aesthetic fall into uncanny valley and it looks off and takes you out of the experience.", "Good song choice 👌\n\nNow only if we could get a Matrix game that’s open wold.", "That's absolutely the genre where its been most successful. Cars are just so much more viable to render that way compared to most things and the userbase wants realistic handling, etc. Rally games tend to have fewer assets than most games and its therefore more achievable for the artists to create good textures.", "The inside of every building is a flat 2d surface on all the walls. It looks like they repeated just a handful for every window into a room.", "Nice edit friend.\n\nOn a tangent though. I think the demo does a great job of conveying the matrix than even the developers thought it would. Everything looks great on the surface, but once you start looking deeper you can see the places or starts to fall apart. UE5 will be a games changer in respects to rendering and graphical fidelity but outside of that the usual jank will still be there.\n\nFor example in the tech demo there are buildings whose lighting toggles between two states based on proximity while there are others that don't. There are props on rooftops that don't actually connect with the rest of the buildings, the AI is Uber jank... Drive a car and park in on a pedestrian crossing but away from traffic and not only will all traffic on the connecting roads come to a halt, the pedestrians will start actively avoiding the crossing.\n\nSo while the tool is great, if the people using it aren't good at what they do we'll still have a ton of jank.", "So - not a video game on PS5. Anyone know when the next generation of open world non-isometric RPGs will arrive? I’m aware of Horizon, but need more to justify the purchase.", "Keep in mind photos now look better than reality.", "Or Crysis 1... This is not even close to a leap in graphics to be called a \"revolution\" in gaming. Still, the posibilities are very promising and i cant wait to see what game like GTA or RDR might look like in Unreal 5.", "The only things new in this demo is the real-time global illumination technique (Lumen) and the level of detail solution (Nanite).\n\nThe AI, weather, physics are not new elements.", "No it doesn’t lol", "Oh god they look fucking terrifying. This is The Polar Express all over again", "It all comes down to postures IMO. In the real world, we see people having different postures but in video games, we don't see as much variety and variation. Everyone (human) walks with a stiff, almost perfect posture. Another thing for me that pushes 3D generated humans into the uncanny valley is their proportions. The sizes of their heads, or how long their arms are, they just don't feel like bodies that are lived in. \n\n\nI think we achieved photorealistic levels of realism in 3D generated objects years ago. So buildings, cars, vases, and furniture look as real as they can be, but humans, faces, bodies, the insides of a mouth, teeth, how they walk etc. don't look as real. Especially when it's scaled-up.", "Finally buildings with visible insides!", "Lumen is the lighting system and it's a kind of raytracing, but not fully path traced. There's a bunch of shortcuts to do this.", "AI driven animation would fix it and it's coming, one day far in the future. Here's a video from last year on AI driven animation. [https://youtu.be/pBkFAIUmWu0](https://youtu.be/pBkFAIUmWu0)", "OP blurred them out. In the actual demo they don't blur them out.", "Nanite works with static models. It doesn't work with anything that can deform yet.", "You cannot loop the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings into the same category of photorealism.", "No, but LOTR cgi is far from photorealistic", "> Anyway, these graphics you see in the Matrix demo will be downgraded significantally consoles can't handle this comfortably.\n\nThe matrix demo is running on the ps5 and xbox series x, you can download it for free and play it for yourself xD", "You are literally getting a tech demo that's carefully catered and optimized and what gameplay there is it's extremely limited. On top of that if you watch Digital Foundry's analysis some of the heavier scenes are pre-rendered, and it dips down to 22-25 fps. No, consoles can't really handle it to this degree. They will downgrade and make a lot of compromises for a full game.", "It doesn't work with masks materials that use transparency, like tree leaves. (Yes you could fully model the leaves to get around this but you would lose the subsurfacing.)", "Don't you think some of the best 3D modelers, animators, software engineers, and general experts in this industry understand how this works better than you do?", "Voxel GI is still raytracing, the rays are just traced against a voxelized scene. It also doesn’t have anything to do with Nanite; I think you may have meant lumen. Nanite is just the virtualized geometry system, which is the part that enables the use of incredibly high-res meshes without a performance hit.", "I mean, there’s nothing wrong with going for photorealism, under the right circumstances, and if anything, a Matrix adaption seems like a good application to me.", "The only major technologies used today that Crysis 2007 lacked are Screen Space Reflections and any kind of Real-time GI (and I guess TAA, but not all games use that even today) but they did use a decent ambient occlusion. The textures were relatively low-res, but the remaster fixed that and the other issues. It really does look like a 2021 game, people just didn’t like that they used some of the assets from the console versions of the game and that it changed the aesthetic.", "When I saw the thing at the game awards I was like... this is it... there are GTA IV mods that look better than that", "There’s not really another leap to be had. It’s close enough that some stills are photorealistic, what would be a leap up from that? Double realistic?", "It’s not shown here, but the automobile collisions and deformation are pretty realistic. Not quite Beam.ng, but better than anything you see anything in most games.\n\nBy mass ai he did mean the NPCs and vehicles driving around. Digital Foundry claims it’s on a bigger scale than anything they’ve seen done before, in terms of the number of pedestrians and vehicles on the road simultaneously,. I personally don’t have a good frame of reference for it, but it certainly looks impressive zoomed out.", "It’s AI in the sense that any NPC’s in any game using pathfinding could be classified as AI.", "I'm guessing this is more of a tech demo", "There’s no pre rendered scenes in the gameplay hence gameplay, you can download and play it for yourself and see :) they can handle the engine, hence the matrix awakens demo", "Obviously not, because it looks like they lifted the walking animation from Midtown Madness.\n\n(I'm sure UE 5 is great at character animation and it's just an oversight in this otherwise flawless tech demo.)", "You poor naive soul.", "> First off, they can't just steal rigged off animations from other games.\n\nBut they can buy them" ]	197	videos	Made this video using The Matrix Awakens PS5 demo. May be the first time in gaming history where we achieved photorealistic graphics that is playable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Px3WzRHiRA	/r/videos/comments/rfii8b/fantastic_beasts_the_secrets_of_dumbledore/	[ "I still can't believe these movies exist.\n\nIt's as if someone who has never read the books or seen the movies was given a list of character names and general themes and told to write a script.", "Ridiculous that they pulled Johnny Depp out of this.", "Didnt see the 2nd one, prolly wont see this one. But I can say I did enjoy the first one. That Niffler is awfully cute.", "Oh so this is what the star wars fans felt like", "All those who read the books and think these are an abomination, dont watch them.\n\nThese movies are meant for the screen, not paper.", "I thought we all agreed to memory hole these movies.", "Hate Eddie Redmaynes acting in these. Just wanted his character to be swallowed up by one of the beasts. Most of the other actors were equally overplayed and annoying", "Well also rightfully judge anyone who does watch them.", "Until JKR is removed and Depp I reinstated nobody should pay a cent for this." ]	9	videos	Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore – Official Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY-XHAoVEeU	/r/videos/comments/rfj0ps/the_incredible_resilience_of_the_thames_barrier/	[ "Were the computers running Windows 7? I suppose mechanically it has a crazy amount of redundant systems in place", "Think that was the forecasters terminal running windows 7.", "Bloody hell, I remember when that thing was built!", "That was incredibly interesting. Thanks for sharing!", "Interesting, he renamed the video to \"The Thames Barrier must never fail. Here's why it doesn't.\"", "Fascinating. Always enjoy these videos.", "Here's why [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng)\n\nIt's a good video describing what people have to do to grab people's attention on YouTube nowadays. They will swap through multiple different titles and thumbnails to see the affect it has on viewership in real time. The one with the better stats will win.", "[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-7-eos-faq/windows-7-extended-security-updates-faq](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-7-eos-faq/windows-7-extended-security-updates-faq) \n\nWindows always offers extended support for multiple years after the home editions of their software reach end of life.", "it's nice they have good internet access at the retirement home x", "It's a better title.", "I understand completely why this is the case, but it still makes me oddly sad. \"The incredible resilience of the Thames barrier\" seems very Tom Scott and makes me want to listen to the story. \n\nMaybe I'm just jaded from years of clickbait but any title with extreme superlatives and a hook like \"and here's why\" feels obnoxious. That could be in the title to a watch mojo video about the 7 strangest nose shapes in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.", "Interesting he didn’t mention cyber attacks at all. If anything is critical infrastructure, this is, and I hope they have some good firewalls to protect them from one hacker bypassing their system and giving orders from a distance.", "I thought this was going to be about a guy named 'Thames Barrier'", "Shortly after that he renamed the video to \"9 Reasons Why Overflowing Rivers HATE HIM!!!! Number 4 will SHOCK YOU!!!!\"", "I didn’t realize it was that close to London. For some reason I assumed it was much further downstream. \n\nThis gives me a couple of questions. \n\nFirst, how do they prevent the river from going around the barrier? If the area around London is low enough to be flooded I would assume that there would be an easy path for the excess water pushing up the river to simply go around the barrier. Are there dikes and levees? Is the topology such that the area around the barrier is not as low as the threatened portions of London? Is that area simply sacrificed as part of the protection of London?", "If its that critical, it should have an air gap.", "steve east knows his shit.", "Tom Scott is my biggest, and oldest, enemy.", "or in this case a water gap.", "buen video", "Windows 7 is the best Windows", "Don't fix what isn't broken I guess\n\nUnless they ever run into a usability bug, I assume that's fine. That computer is almost certainly not wired straight into the internet so unless a malicious actor gets access to it, everything should be fine.", "> seems very Tom Scott and makes me want to listen to the story\n\nAgreed. I feel like it's a dangerous road to justify compromising that sincerity in the pursuit of a bigger audience. What about viewers who don't conform to the mean- are they not worth reaching out to? Who's to say that one's content is worth pushing out another educator's?\n\nFurther down the line, we might have to come to terms with a reputable channel (not necessarily this one) turning into another Discovery Channel. Or maybe an educational channel that uses increasingly revealing clothing. Or maybe it paves the way for a brand new channel to optimize for revenue in bad faith by priming an audience.\n\nOn the other hand, this might be an overreaction to something innocuous. I don't believe any of these channels have crossed that line yet.", "$20 billion doesn't really sound like that incredible of a disaster to me, not on the scale of modern cities.", "If Tom Scott showed up at my work I'd be concerned that what I do is so boring that Tom Scott had to do dozens of hours of research to find 7-minutes of interest.", "My total guess is that central London is not by the coast and ergo water has to travel via the river to get there, and does so gradually enough as a tide (as opposed to a tsunami) that it would pass through the barrier before hitting a narrow enough point that it would otherwise well up and overflow the sides.", "well that's pretty neat.", "Based on the thumbnail, I hope the next video on TomScottPlus is where Tom discovers a set of dumbbells.", "Yes, though there are suggestions for a new barrier further east, downstream, to protect the home building going on in low lying areas that were formerly river based industry.", "The barrier doesn't completely stop the river, it just enforces a maximum height for everything downstream of the barrier. They basically create a reservoir upstream that slowly fills up, like that behind a dam. I'm sure that the position of the barrier, the upstream infrastructure, and monitoring of the downstream flow allow for minimal flooding to occur.", "They run Windows 7 to confuse hackers. :P", "Dang look at that boys string bean arms", "It's insane that humanity takes on these massive infrastructure projects to stop things from being flooded, instead of just stopping people from building on an area that gets flooded.", "I didn't have time yesterday when the notification popped up and did a double take when the title was different. I liked the original title better, but my view today was on the clickbatey one.", "To me it looked like the whole system was operated by manual operators on site.\n\nI might be wrong, but the whole system is probably offline. (for two reasons) \n\n1\\\\ It's safer \n\n2\\\\ It was designed in the 1970's \n\nSure the weather forecast and such is probably connected to the internet. But that's not the operation. Just the decision making part of the operation.", ">What about viewers who don't conform to the mean- are they not worth reaching out to?\n\nUntil the algorithm can differentiate people's preferences well enough that we can set different titles and thumbnails that reach different people, based on what they are most likely to respond to, the answer to that question is: no. People like Tom Scott are trying to make a living on YouTube. They need to maximize discoverability within their niche. If a title or thumbnail grabs fewer people, that means less money for future videos. The line he has to be careful not to cross is the one that takes him to place, where his credibility suffers.", "London is approximately 2,000 years old. Back then, the most successful cities were near water as it allowed for trade.", "Cry less. Find a better way to feel productive.", "The irony of this comment...", "You definitely make little money.", "A quick look at your profile reveals you go out of your way daily to troll people constantly on reddit.\n\nThat seems incredibly fulfilling and I wish you the best.", "Things can change. Every time someone wants to knock down an office building to build a new one, say no and make the site a park instead. Put the new office building somewhere else.\n\nEventually, all the flood-prone areas will be parkland.", "London is also sinking.(since glaciers left North UK/Scotland the North is slowly rising and the South slowly sinking) Hence. Newer flood defences required over time. Not just due to any higher sea levels or higher tides due to global warming.\nVictoria embankment was a massive Victorian project to raise the walls along the Thames in Central London 120 yrs ago.", "The sea, is that you?", "I can tell you are an extra in the lives of everyone you cross paths with.", "Honestly the dumbest possible take it's possible to have on this subject. I'm seriously impressed at your confidence in giving it when it's clear you haven't bothered to actually establish in your mind:\n\n- The scope and value of the land protected by the barrier.\n- The history and events that caused the barrier to be built.\n- The difference between the cost of mitigating floods vs the cost of abandoning land that could be used for useful things.\n- How any buildings anywhere get built.\n- Really any kind of pertinent information at all.\n\n...even though this thread is literally about a video telling you all of this shit.\n\nAll I can say is thank god there were people who actually had common sense enough to say \"If we have land worth a trillion pounds in living and working space, it's a good investment to spend a couple of hundred million to protect it. Y'know, instead of making it all parks... that no-one will actually be using because we spent hundreds of billions forcing people to move homes and businesses upriver...\"", "\"so was the Titanic\"", "Hey I too remember that being build you whippersnapper and I ain’t old dog gone it", "Systems like this, critical ones, are generally completely isolated from the internet, have their own GPS time sync antenna, and block all physical attacks by stopping operators from inserting say a USB stick. (Those particularly aren't foolproof, but more so stupid proof.) And then you will have your physical security perimeter with card access and manned gates. \n\nLower priority assets/facilities will generally allow internet access through firewall to corporate networks to allow remote monitoring and even sometimes control depending on how remote the facility is and if its unmanned. \n\nEven this facility MIGHT have some sort of access to a corporate network.", "Yeah they should just move London.", "Yeah, actually. And lots of other places as well.", "Away from the flood prone rivers.", "Fucking away. Every city in the world has got various disused industrial estates that are high and dry that can become a new CBD.", "> Every city in the world has got various disused industrial estates that are high and dry that can become a new CBD." ]	54	videos	The incredible resilience of the Thames Barrier
https://youtu.be/m1bCm5bp2GU	/r/videos/comments/rfjhbq/its_a_monday/	[ "ive always loved [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V36LpPkwJ7I)", "lolnein!", "Never seen this guy before, watched his other videos, all great and in the same vein", "And then he grew old and didn't have a choice anymore" ]	3	videos	It's a Monday
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfk45y/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rfk45y/deleted_by_user/	[ "He's dead on in his explanation of trying to like something when you know its reputation. Really makes you consider the rationalization people put into the praises with these high-dollar bottles.", "I wouldn't feel so bad if I were him. If he can consistently peg other whiskeys and bourbons that are in line with their rough market value and/or with international competition judges, hes's doing ok. Rarity does not a good thing make necessarily. \n\nJust because your Bourbon is made in small batches from Unicorn tears once a year at Christmas by freshly shorn Malaysian ska-band members and its been aged for 37 years in magical boabob barrels, doesn't necessarily make it any good. \n\nGreg here isn't the only whiskey/bourbon connoseur to not rate Pappy Van Winkle top spot in double blind taste tests. Yes, its won awards, but so have most moonshine at one point or another. Im sure a considerable portion of whisky drinkers would rate it as good. But methinks Winkle's stupid price is just rarity more than anything.", ">Just because your Bourbon is made in small batches from Unicorn tears once a year at Christmas by freshly shorn Malaysian ska-band members and its been aged for 37 years in magical boabob barrels, doesn't necessarily make it any good. \n\nI got a good laugh imagining someone shearing full-body dreadlocks off of rastafarians." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJxjoaVYhno	/r/videos/comments/rfk4kf/quinbobin_found_a_shrine_to_craig_in_halo_infinite/	[ "Who is Craig?", "Craig was in an old gameplay trailer for halo infinite and the graphics were pretty shit at the time and he became a meme", "video removed", "Thanks!", "Thanks for the heads-up. He uploaded it to his secondary channel" ]	5	videos	Quinbobin found a shrine to Craig in Halo Infinite
https://nos.nl/video/2409241-loopt-daar-je-hond	/r/videos/comments/rfkm9n/owner_finds_lost_dog_during_interview_after/	[ "Im not crying.. Im not..", "Jeez, I remember the post of the dude finding his cat in the rubble or something too. Love these posts.", "It's a terrible day for rain.", "My eyes are just a little sweaty today...", "Something as amazing as this can really change your outlook in a traumatic situation. So happy they have been reunited.", "ಡ_ಡ", "Is what you would have said if it wasn't for todays sponsor, \nNord VPN! \nSign up for a free 30 day trail today using the promo code: lick my balloon knot", "Thanks Detective Nobbleberry!", "Really? 'Cuz I am.", "It’s the little stuff like this out of tragedy that can give hope. So happy for this lady for finding her doggo.", "I’m sorry, it’s from the most prominent Dutch news site and I can’t find the video anywhere else.", "I think i made a screencap, I’ll try to upload it! :)", "YES! Exactly like that. \"Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness\" or something like that!", "This one's easy. I see found dog, I upvote", "Gosh, I love my dog so much, this would mean everything to me. My home can be rebuilt. My \"stuff\" can be replaced, but not my dog.", "Top priority of the day, re-hanging your confederate flag on the broken remains of your house...", "This is a sequel to [this](https://youtu.be/_pp2C_GXv5E). Very sweet!", "lol. the popular photo of that guy is cropped to not include the flag\n\n\"Man prepares dinner after hurricane\" really takes on another light knowing he's racist. I feel much less sympathy for him", "Love the reporter\n\n\"I lost my dog\"\n\n \"Theres a dog right there...\"", "I'll give a short recap:\n\nA woman walks through a destroyed neighbourhood and tells the Dutch journalist filming a news item that she lost her dog as the power failed and the house was destroyed. Moments later the journalist points out 'there's a dog over there!'. Turns out it is indeed the woman's dog and it's totally fine. Happy tears all around.", "Damn you both for making me remember this scene.", "Dogs are seriously the best. \n\nI'm so happy she and Nola are reunited.", "Step 1: try not to cry\n\nStep 2: watch video\n\nStep 3: lay down, cry a lot", "We're all crying, and that's ok.", "Reminds me of that old woman searching the rubble of her home for her dog and ended up being interviewed right next to the dog who was trapped under a light piece of debris.", "Bet he’ll be (rightfully) taking up the federal government on its relief efforts too…", "Didn’t something like this go viral like 10-15 years ago? Iirc it was an elderly lady and the little dog was kind of just laying down on top of the house rubble, but they discovered it during the interview.\n\nEdit: [Well that was easy to find. ](https://youtu.be/_pp2C_GXv5E) 8 years ago, I was a little off.", "Yeah I knew it reminded me of something similar! That one is even more striking, the dog is so quiet and calm and must be so confused and scared. No energy left to greet it’s owner. I hope they had some good years together after that.", "Nola had some severe butt wiggles there.", "I hope people are better than this. I can’t see this happening. The people there are just getting by. No one is thinking about likes or newsworthiness.", "Her and the dog would be impressively good actors in that case. It seems unlikely.", "I just remember how frustrating that video was watching an old lady try and get her dog out from under rubble while the reporter/crew just stood there.", "For the first time since this happened I watched some national news coverage tonight and this poor man was talking about not being able to find his baby boy, I fucking lost it and cried myself.", "Big govt telling me what to do with their handouts......", ">\"I know exactly what happened here. Exactly.\"\n\nBest fuckyou to a stupid question ever", "Why would the Netherlands send a crew? Seems like they could just get a stringer. There must be hundreds of news crews running around there.", "Somebody did help her. I think the delay was when they were handing equipment off to someone else", "and it should be noted that while Kentucky is considered a part of the South they were not a part of the Confederacy (they were a neutral border state). In fact Kentucky was under Union control for most of the Civil War after the Kentucky legislature petitioned the Union for support.\n\nSo yeah, the flag is certainly not about pride in his state's history. It's about being a racist asshole.", "couldn't help but notice one of those houses is still flying a confederate flag. If I was a southern christian type I'd do some introspecting right now.", "Awwww fuck yeahhhh", "People fly that flag in upstate New York soooo", "Broadcast News (1987)", "\"Well, I thought God just answered one prayer [sic] 'Let me be okay' He answered both of them.\"", "My mother in law has a cat that is her life. I can't imagine her without him. Pets are family.", "Off topic, but I love her economy of words. She doesn't waste a vowel and speaks so perfectly.", "I donated $500 in my moms name. She’s even crying over stories from the area all day. I used to go to areas and volunteer, but my health doesn’t allow it anymore. I wish I could give and do more. No one deserves to go through all that.", "On a good day I’d steer clear, but not now. Those people probably need help and it’s the time to set aside politics. If anything I want them to know this liberal snowflake is here to help.", "i agree, i just mean if i was a southern christian and an act of god blew my entire life away AND i had any capacity for independent thought I'd see that as an opportunity to examine why god was displeased with me and everyone I associate with.", "Nah, doesn’t happen like that. For them “God works in mysterious ways” or it’s part of his plan. Worse they’ll blame it on the gay couple that live there. God is never at fault.\n\nIt’s ignorance and the way they were raised. I’d love o educated and change them, but that’s very rare.", "We lost everything. Everything we owned was gone. Our cats were trapped inside. We didn't know if they died, got out when first responders got to the house, or if they were trapped inside. I was a wreck. I blacked out most of that week. I don't remember much other than what others have told me. Almost kicked the shit out of a reporter and a cop. That isn't me. Trauma is some serious shit. A firefighter found our first cat the next morning and I got a call that they found our other cat three days later. I haven't run so fast in my fucking life. The front door was so badly damaged that it wouldn't open so I literally had to bust the door in. I'm a very small woman. The strength came out of NOWHERE. Just pure adrenaline to save my baby. They're both safe. I didn't care about anything else. Our families dragged us around to get what furniture we could afford but I was just not there. I was only thinking about my cats. They were the only thing we wanted. Firefighters kept asking what we wanted them to bring down and I just said to find my cats and fuck the rest. We don't know how we would have been able to recover if they weren't found. They're so traumatized by the experience. Any fire alarm sets them into freeze or flight. \n\nHaving that same experience a few years later, seeing smoke fill the hallway after a huge explosion and still not being able to find one of our cats... I was a few seconds from telling my partner to take our first cat and run. I was not going to leave without finding her. She was behind the dryer. I sat there in a kind neighbor's car shaking, sobbing, comforting my cats thinking how in the world we could be reliving this horror all over again but I was happy knowing my cats were with us and secured in our neighbor's car.\n\nThere was no fire. Someone set off a mortar firework in the hallway right by the stairs. I will never forgive those little shits. As long as your loved ones are safe, nothing else matters. The trauma is still there though. I would have remained a husk of a human if our babies didn't come home to us. I'm still scared to leave them home alone. Our apartment complex doesn't alert us to alarm testing regardless of how many times I've called freaking out asking why the alarms are going off, why I'm calling, and asking them to alert us on planned tests. It's awful.", "[I knew this seemed familiar](https://youtu.be/JshpudGeRfQ)", "After she had to ask for it. There was definitely no rush to help from anyone working the story", "I’m sorry what you’ve been through.", "Is that something to do with journalistic integrity, not inserting yourself into the story?", "I don't know how quickly helping an old lady rescue her dog in this scenario compromises the integrity of their story, but I'm all ears if you can tell me how.", "It's ok. Really, it is. All of the people and all pets made it out safely! We have since graduated and are finally financially stable again after so long.\n\nWe were over an hour away when we got the call. Not from the apartment complex, but from a friend and neighbor of ours. The complex continued to be awful though it was their own fault for ruining the lives of 24 families. They didn't let me use their printer or poster board to put up missing pictures. Forced us to sign papers THAT NIGHT saying we would not sue them. Then they told us that if we didn't sign a new lease, we would be homeless because \"they were running out of open apartments\". The final blow was that the lady that we signed with told us she would just transfer our old lease. She was trying to be kind and extend our lease for free, but once we were ready to leave as scheduled, they tried pinning us with lease breaking fines. Big ones. It took weeks of screaming and sobbing until the dumb bitch got in contact with the person that signed the paperwork and she was told that we weren't making shit up. They then pinned a fuck load of cleaning fees on us. How could that even be true when we had only been in that new apartment for a few months? Absolutely awful. I will never forgive them. We were so ready to get the hell out of there that we just took the blow when we had spent a big part of the insurance payout on our cats' ICU stay and vet visits. That part wasn't covered by our renters insurance.\n\nA note to every single person reading this: DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING UNDER DURESS. DO NOT SIGN A SINGLE THING. NEVER. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING WITH BLANK VALUES. DO NOT TRUST PEOPLE WITH BIG FINANCIAL AND LIFE DECISIONS. GET BACKUPS AND BACKUPS OF BACKUPS. GET RENTER'S INSURANCE EVEN IF YOUR HOUSING DOESN'T REQUIRE IT.", "As someone who had their dog accidentally take off recently (and actually found via posting on a reddit page local to that area, thank you kind redditor!!) this is just the most heart warming thing in the world to see. Pets are family and damn, I am ever so glad to see a pet owner being reunited with their dog.. especially under such insanely strenuous circumstances. \n\nMuch love and I am so glad she got her dog back 💜", "Yea for sure. That woman is sharp as a tack. I remember seeing this and it still made me tear up again seeing her pup come out ok. So often in times of tragedy, one little positive that you can hold onto makes all the difference in the world, and I'm so happy she got that.", "Think they're mixed up with people who film nature.", "Truly my biggest fear in the event of a disaster is being unable to protect my animals. I have two cats and a snake, and the thought of any of them going missing after a hurricane or tornado terrifies me. \n\nI’m so, so happy for this woman and her darling Nola.", "I'm honestly not sure. I did some googling and \"Gene Foreman, author of “The Ethical Journalist: Making Responsible Decisions in the Digital Age,” notes that, over the years, journalism practitioners and scholars have reached a consensus: Media professionals should act to save a life or prevent injury if they are the best or only person in a position to intervene. \nIn his book, he lists four questions: \nIs the danger imminent? \nIs the danger profound? \nIs there anyone else present who can help? \nDo you, the journalist, possess special skills needed in the situation?\"\n\nIt doesn't seem like any of those guidelines apply here. Again, I'm not very sure. I just have a hunch that a journalist isn't there to do what's right or, frankly, even be helpful. They should take on an observational, documenting role. There was a guy who took a picture of a starving child laying on the ground being overlooked by a carrion bird who felt guilty for not doing something about it and took his own life. In another event, a reporter started handing out food and water in the aftermath of some disaster and was lampooned for inserting herself into the story. These are some of the things that have informed me as to how a journalist is supposed to conduct themselves properly.", "Appreciate the well written response, but I tend to think you are overthinking it. The specific story the journalists are telling of the devastation from the tornado is not altered by them helping a distressed lady rescue her dog. They are humans before they are journalists after all no?", "Thank you for helping the people. Anyone within driving distance bring the usual, food + water + paper products + loan your generator + loan your propane heaters/camp stoves etc.. whatever you can do.", "Jesus, she's so happy to see her person. It made me choke up. You can just see how over the moon that dog is to be found by the person she loves and was afraid she'd lost.", "I'm glad they are alive!", "sad but true", "so am i, i'm just disappointed they're rebel scum", "Well if they saw a rainbow flag they would help first, judge later if they had time. Disasters are no time to drag ideaologies and politics into the mess. Actually, there isn't any time where that is proactive.... how about that?", "you think the people flying that flag ever helped anyone from across the aisle? Or have they perpetuated hate and intolerance at every opportunity? I would help them, but I have absolutely no faith that they would help me.", "> In another event, a reporter started handing out food and water in the aftermath of some disaster and was lampooned for inserting herself into the story.\n\nthe people doing the lampooning were both stupid and vicious, and nobody should change their behaviour because of that kind of thing \n\nit's entirely possible that the guidelines you've found are actually an industry consensus, but that doesn't necessarily make them ethical (in the positive sense of showing good ethics), even if they're ethical in the sense that they're just describing a system of professional ethics. stipulating that a journalist should be helping only if the danger is 'profound' and nobody else can do it certainly raises my eyebrows", "11 months ago I had to put down my 13 year old dog we'd gotten at 8 weeks shortly after my mom died, named Nala. When she started calling the dogs name it got me hard. Would love to call her and play with her one more time. She was my best friend.", "Grew up in Chicagoland, most confederate flags I ever saw was when I lived in Michigan, a state that borders Canada.", "It's not really related to this story, I agree that the crew should step in. This is a really interesting part from a nature documentary that is on a similar theme. \n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co\\_hmLenD8", "I posted it above but I found this really interesting. \n\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co\\_hmLenD8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co_hmLenD8)", "Yea it’s almost like the people that fly that flag are morons or something.", "I doubt they sent them specifically for this, rather they're a foreign correspondent.\n\nMany large news corporations in a given country have people based in other countries to report on stories there, that reporter was probably already in the US and just travelled to Kentucky.\n\nThe BBC for example, has a lot - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BBC_newsreaders_and_reporters#Foreign_correspondents", "> I would help them, but I have absolutely no faith that they would help me.\n\nIt's never too late to give up your prejudices. That goes for both sides.", "you honestly believe someone flying a confederate flag will help strangers without prejudice, despite the fact the world has been incredibly clear that that flag is antagonistic and hurtful to over half of the country?", "One obvious reason you might not have considered is that for a Dutch news show you kind of want to have reporters that speak Dutch.", "I got teary eyed I’m so happy she found her :’)", "The dog seems so excited, but then again that is how my dog acts when I come back from the mailbox", "That's the thing In the south they can hate gays be racist and see a moment like this and give you the shirt off their back", "You could tell how happy he was to have his human back", "I hear this same comment constantly and watching the video there are like seconds between her seeing the dog and getting it and someone did help.", "They're referring to a different incident that reminds them of this one. I'm sorry I don't have the link but someone further up just mentioned it in relation.\n\nI agree with you though, I don't think the ethics in this video are questionable. It's interesting to contrast the reactions of each journalist though!", "Its okay you were accurate, Covid years are actually 4 years.", "I’m referring to the different incident as well.", "Oh, okay! 👍 I misunderstood! 🥺", "This is not accurate at all. Western KY was very much part of the Confederacy. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_government_of_Kentucky", "My dog actually survived that tornado in 2013 (I was living in Moore at the time). My house was about 8 houses away from the zone where they were stripped down to the foundation, but it was still mostly intact. He was inside, shaken up but unharmed. He is still terrified of storms and high winds to this day.", "thank you for posting this", "Did you actually read what you posted? I will give you a little hint, the Civil War was 1861-1865. That group withdrew from Kentucky in the first half of 1862. They never really controlled Kentucky, but what they did control they no longer controlled by mid 1862 and the state was under Union control. Hence, and I quote \n\n> In fact Kentucky was under Union control for most of the Civil War after the Kentucky legislature petitioned the Union for support.\n\nYou see, most of 1862 through 1865 would indeed be most of the Civil War. Also a shadow government agreeing to be a part of the Confederacy does not make it so. The official government of Kentucky was pro Union. That whole shadow government is nothing more than a brief paragraph in the real wiki article.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_in_the_American_Civil_War#Confederate_state_government", "Right so a western Kentucky resident could easily have ties to the Confederacy.", "that is like saying someone from New York could have ties to the confederacy because someone during the Civil War there wanted to join it. The official government of Kentucky never joined. It was a neutral border state under the control of the Union for most of the war. Some shadow government was meaningless.\n\nYou are trying way too hard to defend racist idiots.", "No worries!", "That is interesting, I was thinking more along the lines of predators or starvation, but it seems there are situations where it'd be fine to intervene.", "Yes someone with a confederate flag in the back of their truck helped my gay friends when they got stuck 4-wheeling. They made some pretty offensive jokes but they got some offensive jokes right back; all in good fun. \n\nThat flag doesn't automatically mean racist sexist homophobe, just like a rainbow flag doesn't automatically mean flamboyant criticalracetheory pushing heterophobe." ]	99	videos	Owner finds lost dog during interview after tornado hit (Mayfield, KY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V9SdHFhE6A	/r/videos/comments/rflxab/media_establishment_claim_inflation_is_good_for/	[ "Um…what kind of crazy is this? Nobody claims that.", "It’s a /r/mormon bot… just a little off center.", "Also, 4.5% unemployment, rising wages and benefits. \n\nRepublicans presided over the worst economic crashes twice in 20 years and they want us believe that they’re good economic stewards. Ha. Ha.", "GTFOH" ]	4	videos	Media Establishment Claim Inflation Is Good For You As Their Policies Destroy Economy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjqwH9PKNiE	/r/videos/comments/rflz2v/what_do_dogs_think_movies_are/	[ "The \"Purple bone award\" lol", "I love their dry humor but sometimes their bits are like consuming a bowl of talcum powder.", "This one was pretty fucking dumb.\n\nI'm sure I'll be quoting it in a out an hour.", "I'll talk to you later, Bud.", "Dogs watch TV and thing you must be a failure because you aren't an action hero, a romantic, or an important person; That you are relegated to the sidelines to sit at home and watch the real people on the TV. After all the dog has never seen you on the TV. So, to make you feel better your dog acts excited as you walk into the door to cheer you up letting you know that you are someone to them. Or they know you're a chump who gives them treats if they bug you enough.", "that was deep and man these edibles are strong...", "I don't get it.", "Dog existential crisis", "what perro oficinista", "Dog actors don’t understand the difference between movies and reality", "Was expecting a twist. Where's the twist?", "Not funny.", "Don't be so down on yourself", "me after yesterdays f1 race", "anyone else excited for the pee tweet?", "What about Arnie dog or any random action actor dog.", "The dog that played airbud probably thinks he’s a legit basketball star", "In terms of watching movies, they probably think they're low-quality windows.", "A Scanner Barkly", "Based on other comments I must have the dumb because this was my favorite video from this channel.", "ruff", "Talcum powder is an acquired taste cough.", "[Airbud dog](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMzQxODE4MzEyNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjk2OTY4ODE@._V1_.jpg) star doesnt know he was in a movie lol", "There! There it is! Go, get it! .... Good boy!", "That's half the point. Dogs don't realize movies are a thing. Beethoven is receiving a bravery award for saving hundreds of dogs from evil men... which is what happened in the movie. Air Bud realized it was all fake and was trying to tell someone", "This dude had some funny videos in the beginning but now it's gotten stale", "It's fuckin brilliant lmao", "[Golf clap](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh4jLrZ2IK4&t=96s)", "I'm with you, it would've been good to see the result promised rather than just the build up", "Amores perros ♥️" ]	30	videos	What do dogs think movies are?
https://youtu.be/-Kgq3F8wbYA	/r/videos/comments/rfn3aq/in_1998_charlie_rose_asked_toni_morrison_about_a/	[ "Supremely eloquent /r/murderedbywords", "My initial thought was she was making more of it than it was and it would be like asking John Green when he was going to write something other than a YA novel. But that actually proves her point, when people say that to John, they are implying YA is somehow not 'real literature.' And while that is somewhat insulting its much worse to imply that about race. I dont know how often JRR Martin gets ask if he would write something other than fantasy.", "I haven’t read her works yet, are her novels solely about marginalized people being marginalized? If that’s tends to be the case I don’t see this question to covertly mean “can you write about white people”. I see it as asking can you write about a theme other than marginalization. Regardless it’s still as pig headed question to ask any competent writer.", "Toni Morrison is a hugely over-rated writer, but I love the vision she sketches out for art here: \"Yes, I can write about white people, white people can write about black people, anything can happen in art.\". Bravo - but this is not the world we live in. We live in a world where identitarian barriers are ever higher, where people are actively hounded out of their profession for not sticking to their lane. See, for instance, the #ourvoices movement in Young Adult fiction, which is literally the idea that Morrison should write only about black characters, and that a white person should never write about black characters. \n\nhttps://thecritic.co.uk/issues/july-2021/the-ya-boo-gang/", "she is convoluting 'writing about race' with 'writing about black people'. If you wrote about surfing you would have to explain surfing in the narration. she has heard this question ask more ineloquently and she is responding to the generalized question as she sees it. She gets triggered by the question because in the past she has had a reason to. She has been forced to be cynical of any question close this it.", "It's unfortunate this was downvoted. I don't agree or disagree; I don't know enough about the topic to really have an opinion, but the comment was interesting and appears to have substance.", "She was on a press tour for a horror movie based on her book about slaves and ghosts starring Oprah Winfrey. This was from 1998 which was the same year Armageddon with Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck came out.\n\nThe US ended segregation 35 years before this.\n\nMLK didn't dream that 'black' people should be exploited in academia and media for decades.", "Charlie Rose is obviously a problematic figure, but I do think he asked this question in good faith. If white people can't ask honest questions to people of color - especially public intellectuals like Morrison - then we're losing a valuable vector for informing folk of the realities of racism and inter-race relations. There's this terror among white people these days that they'll come off as ignorant. The fact is, most of us ARE ignorant of many if not most of the realities of the everyday experiences of people of color, and learning more sometimes means asking questions based in ignorance - because again, we are ignorant in so many ways. Often times deconstructing the question itself can be useful, as is the case in this video.", "I would make a post stating that as long as someone uses words of division white people, black people, etc... racism will always be around. But it'd just get downvoted so I won't make such a post and instead applaud her articulation.", "She would get cancelled today for saying that. To merely suggest a white writer can write a story about black characters would cause the left to cancel one of their own.", "Why do you think she's over-rated?", "\"solely about marginalized people being marginalized? \" not at all. Many of the characters are marginalized because they are literally living lives that are marginalized, but they are full blown, living characters and her scenes and settings are very much based on a world filled with the issues THIS world is filled with. Does that answer make sense ? What Im saying is her stories and characters are vibrant and lifelike and when they depict black characters, which is very often, they are stuck in the kinds of character struggles black people historically have been in. She's writing about their lives. So it's natural that that could be a central part of her work. I would follow the idea from the video. If James Joyce were Black American in stead of Irish he would very likely write these kinds of novels, because he was literally writing about the multi-facited world of modern Ireland at the time and that had the struggles of being those Irish characters in their society etc. It is stylized prose and somewhat abstract style that they share with the goal of depicting real lives, but her novels are very much about black people in America. It is not over wrought with political themes and token talking points or \"safe spaces\", it is real life suffering and love and family and spirit. All those things that make the best novels so good! My opinion/perspective at least.", ">The US ended segregation 35 years before this.\n\nLess than one average lifetime! Racism over! Huzzah!", "I think you may be missing the point of what people mean when they suggest white people shouldn't write about black people. I have never heard from a single PoC that white people should not write about PoC characters, only that they should not usurp their stories and attempt to explain what it means to be that racial minority as a white person. People want more representation, not less. They'd love white writers to include more minority characters. The difference is in explicitly writing the stories of their struggles as if it is your own story to tell and then often profiting off of it. Can a white person tell it? Maybe, but why not allow someone who has experienced those struggles directly tell it instead. There's a distinct difference in motivation, experience, and understanding that makes it different. Imagine a world where your existence is defined by what you are not, and then the stories of your plight is then written out for you by those who seek to define you by it. It's a very complex relationship with race and art. I don't know if this will fall on deaf ears, but hopefully it inspires some thought.", "> Maybe, but why not allow someone who has experienced those struggles directly tell it instead.\n\nwriting a book isn't a zero sum game. A white person writing a book doesn't prevent a black person from writing a book.", "MLK wanted integration and for black people to be out of the ghetto and mixed in. That was close to 60 years ago and between the 70s and 80s, the US pushed for integrated communities and to stop using racist labels like black & white.\n\nThat's until 1989 when the US adopted the African-American label that was started by racists and race exploiters and pushed in media and academia as a way to undermine MLK's goals and keep 'black people' marginalized as an outside collective group.\n\nIn the US black people are exploited generationally and have been used as political props for over a century. That's why the US upper class doesn't want integration is because it's wicked easy to tell young people that the previous generations were all bigots and you guys believe it because you don't know any better.", "Correct, but you're isolating only one aspect of what I offered to try and invalidate everything. You're right that it is not a zero sum game, but it does create a scenario where white people are profiting off of the stories of black people. Should white people be prevented from writing about black stories? No, but do white people really need to attempt to tell black people how their lives function in a given society? It's a question of why would you need to do so. A white person can write the story and move on. A black person is forever black. I think finding it morally objectionable is reasonable, and I think that's where most people would make their statement. That its unneeded and abusive. Not that they cannot, but that they shouldn't. I feel that to many people it's easy to conflate being told you shouldn't do something with you can't. No ones making it a law you can't do that. The black community is just asking to be allowed to tell their own stories rather than have it told for them.", "My take on it is if you write something, and people respond to it, then you have done a good job as an artist. By the same logic male writers should never write strong female characters because they don't know what it's like to be a woman? I think such a world would suck, art would be way worse if everyone had to \"stick to their lane.\"\n\nIMO, part of art is being able to analyze the human condition from a variety of perspectives, including putting yourself in the shoes of others.\n\nGoing further, should only black people be allowed to write a story from the perspective of a slave? Why? No one alive today in America was ever a slave. While black people have experienced discrimination and racism, I would argue their experience is still FAR removed from those that were actual slaves. \n\nHumans have the ability to empathize and put themselves in other peoples shoes. I think I disagree with most of your perspective, I don't believe any aspect of the human experience is so far out of reach for anyone else to analyze and understand, as long as it is done tactfully.", "Seriously when is Stephen King going to give horror a break and give us the romance and historical fiction we need.", "I don't think you're quite understanding what I'm trying to confer, which may just be my own poor explanation. Again, as I mentioned earlier no one is saying you can't write characters as a minority whether race, gender, religious, or otherwise. The problem comes from writing about issues specific to their lives and then profiting off of it. There's a difference between your main character being a strong female lead, and then a man writing about the horrors of having an illegal abortion done on them and the discussion around it. Its just not really a discussion that men need to have much of a voice in. Why not let the people who experience it lead the conversation? \n\nI think you also underestimate how far removed we are from slavery. There are people alive today who had relatives who were slaves. They listened to the stories of what they went through. That's neither here nor there though, because the difference is who does the narrative originate from. Nothing is disallowing people who treat the subject matter with respect to write about it. But there is a history of white people profiting off of black strife and causes, and if you can't sympathize with the feelings of being used that come with someone profiting off of your suffering, then I'm not sure how better to explain it unfortunately.", ">Its just not really a discussion that men need to have much of a voice in. \n\nWe will just have to agree to disagree\n\n> Why not let the people who experience it lead the conversation? \n\nI think whoever can tell a compelling story that resonates with people, should be allowed to. Morally, ethically, artistically. If one is able to do that, then presumably they have tapped into something that is true. If a man wriites about the perils of abortion and women respond to it, seems good? And if they don't, the book probably doesn't do very well. \n\nIMO, the difference in suffering is window dressing. We all have unique experiences, but ultimately those unique experiences get distilled down to more broad human emotions, and thus even if someone doesn't have a direct experience, that doesn't mean they can't understand or relate. \n\nI appreciate your opinion but I don't think we see eye to eye here.", "I don’t know if that’s downplaying the work they do, maybe it’s how the question is worded, but asking an artist if they have plans to branch out or stay specialized in the area of the art that they seem to have specialized in doesn’t inherently seem to imply more than that? Certainly nothing inherently condescending or malicious?", "Is Charlie Rose kinda thick?", "If only people voted on comments this way…", "Convoluted", "Abusive", "Stephen king has written various thrillers, fantasy, science-fiction and historical novels...", "As a non-American, not used to American racial politics, you sound like a massive racist.\n\nMaybe if this bothers you so much, instead of writing your opinions on what black people should do and what white people should do, you should just write a book about whatever you want. Don't even have to limit it to your own personal experiences, you can just write about dragons and aliens or whatever.", "I don't necessarily think the question is rooted in any sort of demeaning connotation. Sure you could always couch it in more 'neutral' terms like \"would you ever consider branching out into different genres of writing or write about different themes?\" But that's just circumventing the main issue with sugarcoated, flowery language. It's bowing to the snowflakes of the world. There is nothing wrong with directly asking someone who is known to write about one thing if they would or could consider not writing about it. In fact, it would be interesting to know if she's found it tedious, redundant, annoying that there still exists a need for her TO write about it. The fact that she takes it as someone 'challenging her' to prove her artistic talent or that the question in itself is a bit racist is just her own preconceived notions framing it that way for her. Seems like an objective enough question to me.", "Because Fox News said so probably.", "Yeaaa right, and grizzly adams had a beard", "Totally. Super normal thing to ask an artist who touches on the same areas a lot. I can understand being sensitive about it, especially when it regards touchy subject matter like race, but it takes some interpretation to make that question offensive.", "I'm of the opinion that most of us got to this state of ignorance from not talking enough about race. Not having the right conversations about it at the very least. I think too many of us have spent too long trying to ignore the elephant in the room.\n\nI also want to point out she made a very good point that \"not writing about race\" really just means \"writing about white people\". White people are a sort of invisible race in the US by being the majority.", "\n\n> as a way to undermine MLK's goals and keep 'black people' marginalized as an outside collective group.\n\nlmao\n\n>n the US black people are exploited generationally and have been used as political props for over a century. That's why the US upper class doesn't want integration is because it's wicked easy to tell young people that the previous generations were all bigots and you guys believe it because you don't know any better.\n\nlmao", "Malcolm X warned that would happen back in the 60s. You going to laugh at him?\n\nhttps://youtu.be/T3PaqxblOx0", "Oh, fuck off. I don’t watch Fox News, but I do read books, and hers are mediocre.", "no I lmao at you\n\nlmao", "It's also unfortunate he's not backing it up with any analysis...", "Snowwwflaaaaaakes!!!!!\n\nshakes fist", "if only sarah ditum extended her concern for people who are \"hounded\" on the basis of their traits to trans people, instead of being a TERF. well, immiseration and death are nothing compared to getting yelled at on twitter", "It's incredible to live in a time when even a middle-of-the road left-wing Guardian writer like Ditum is not sufficiently doctrinaire to avoid this sort of thought-deadening heckling. Just... go away.", "Funny how you're against identitarianism but baulk at the notion of holding someone accountable for being a TERF because they also belong to a group you believe to be not deplorable enough that criticizing them becomes allowable. If being hounded for not sticking to your lane isn't acceptable, neither is getting a free pass for your bigotry just because you otherwise hold mildly progressive views.", "your views on race in america are pretty fucking naive and ignorant.\n\nstay in school, kiddo", "this is just an affected way of saying \"why isn't it okay for me to be bigoted against some marginalised people?\" \n\njust...grow up", "> stay in school, kiddo\n\nI grew up in the 70s. You have no argument.", "If you think about it, asian is sort of the invisible race, if you're looking at a worldwide market.", "He doesn't. He just doesn't like what she has to say and wanted to get in a shot at identity politics without getting downvoted.", "Charlie Rose asked it because it makes for a chance at a great answer, and thus a great interview.", "Toni Morrison is an awesome writer, I've read almost all of her books and they touched my mixed race soul deeply. Rose is a #metoo figure (now that we finally know the truth) I have no trust in him at all.", "\"Good faith\" is a tricky term in a case like this. Ever see the clip where ScarJo gets asked whether she wore underwear under the Black Widow suit? And she reacts negatively and points out what a sexist question it is. It's a horrible question, and a lazy question. It's the sort of question where one may be inclined to use one's laziness and inconsiderate nature as an affirmative defense: the \"I'm sorry, I didn't intend\" non-apology. Because I didn't intend = I didn't consider = I was inconsiderate, making the form of the apologize \"I apologize for being inconsiderate, in my defense, I am inconsiderate. We can applaud Toni Morrison for taking the high road here, but to do so in good faith, we must also acknowledge that she must do so out of necessity, because Toni Morrison -- a black woman -- vs a white male talk show host 20 years ago does not have the position of power that a white A-list actress has, casually slapping down some banal jerkass during a marathon of press junkets. So she had to be kind, and generous, and even reassuringly self-deprecating to help Rose save face -- we all know she is not wrong and was not overreacting. And Rose, in turn, knew what an asshole he was playing \"devil's advocate\" or whatever, suggesting she was misreading the question. \"Aren't you importing too much into the question?\" = \"Stop overthinking it\" = \"You're too sensitive\" = \"Stop being so uppity.\" I do not get the impression that question was a good natured ally playing the heel so he could pass her a layup. And again, kudos to Ms. Morrison, because I would not have been able to keep the smug off my face were I in her position when she turned it around and asked him what other interpretation he could think of. Interviewers like in these two examples often demonstrate a sense of something between entitlement and even obligation in asking thoughtless, offensive questions as if it were \"hard-hitting journalism\" (or an unveiled ratings grab). I agree that calmly deconstructing the question -- which I plant firmly in the Going-Above-and-Beyond category of responses -- probably helped audience viewers who needed to be guided through their first trip down [\"Other People Have Feelings\"](https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1229177598003077123?lang=en) Lane, but people like Charlie Rose? They're professional trolls.", "Yeah seems that way, my first comment i deleted was \"how many of her books have you read\"? But deleted it as its kinda pretentious but obv I feel like this person has read no more than one at least....to me she is easily one of America's greatest writers and its kinda hard for me to imagine calling her \"overrated\" unless you are a)not a fan of stylistic writing or b) other things that might show bias against her work ... of course appreciation of literature is subjective... but at the end of the day if people focus on her race or gender and her choice of characters rather than the actual books themselves it shows a real straw-man/lack of premise kind of argument. Its the price of true courage and artistry of her work.(one example being that she wrote a work inspired by Margaret Garner ) I dont know. Maybe Im dead wrong... another day on the fuckin internet 😒", "Not often. People mostly just pester George R R Martin about when he's going to continue writing fantasy lol.", "I’ll bet my left nut you haven’t actually read any Morrison. She’s fucking fantastic, right up there with Baldwin.", "An unbiased person's response to her writing would be \"it's not my style; I didn't like it.\"\n\nThis guy obviously has a bone to pick.", "Yep, trying to give folks the benefit of the doubt is my default mode sometimes when maybe I need to let that go ...", "Come now - you don't have a left nut. They extract those when you go to get your literary opinions handed out to you at the Oprah Book Club.", "Shit, you got me. But, you know what, I can slightly agree with you just because Beloved wasn't nearly as good as I was led to expect. However, Song of Solomon was damn good and to label all of Morrison's works as \"mediocre\" is just wack as shit.", "Exactly correct. Anyone who couldn't see what he was dancing around couldn't see it because they didn't want to see it.", "Right, but saying \"do you have any plans on branching out to other lived experiences\" is way different than \"when will you not write about race?\"", "The words you choose to use have implications. A reporter especially should know this. They chose the words they chose, whether it was intentional or not, because of the implications behind them.", "There are numerous connotations that one can derive from a question such as that. Not to mention a question that is inherently about race would be very difficult to not compartmentalize in a \"non-racial\" compartment. It would take great objectivity to be able to do that, Buddha style enlightenment. But to me, it seems that her own subjective interpretation has colored the implications she has decided to ascribe to the phrasing. Like I said, it's a pretty standard, mundane question. Imagine instead switching it up by asking Crichton, \"would you ever consider not writing about action?\" or King about \"mysteries/the unknown/fear inducing scenarios,\" or Tolkein/Martin about \"fantasy/mythical creatures/good vs. evil,\" etc. I for one would love to ask Ayn Rand if she would ever consider not writing about objectivism or writing about something else. I would love to know if any author has ever desired to/cowered from/would never consider/can't, etc. delve[ing] into different genres/themes/styles, etc. Sort of like asking a typecast actor if they would consider not playing that type of character. You can't just say the fact that you asked that carries the implication that they're typecast, and that's offensive. That's just the definition of typecast, it's why the word originated, why it's used in this situation, b/c the actor fits that description. It's b/c they're typecast that I'm asking the ?." ]	61	videos	In 1998, Charlie rose asked Toni Morrison about a question a journalist had once posed to her: "Can you imagine writing a novel not centered around race?" This is her amazing response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzBvXSY73b0	/r/videos/comments/rfo7pu/fortnite_squad_win_with_me_and_my_family/	[ "Meh", "Fair enough", "I enjoyed the family banter. Thanks" ]	3	videos	Fortnite squad win with me and my family
https://youtu.be/yonyV6_6ur4?t=155	/r/videos/comments/rfofwy/battleship_uss_missouri_missile_inbound_brace_for/	[ "Imagine being in that room, on that ship, where this is one of the only instances in modern history where this was for real. Dang!", "That’s amazing how calm they all seemed, even joking around, looks like this was a near miss from an anti-ship mission during Desert Storm : https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/art/exhibits/conflicts-and-operations/the-gulf-war-1990-1991--operation-desert-shield--desert-storm-/uss-missouri-under-attack-by-iraqi-silkworm.html", "https://youtu.be/WkRylMGLPMU", "Should it be a near hit? Like it nearly hit them. Near miss sounds like they almost missed, but hit them. IDK.", "What are the white pills for that he says to take?\n\nAlso kind of striking how they are just children.", "Near miss seems to be the most universal term for close calls (and not just in the navy).", "We all love a classic Carlin joke, but \"near miss\" means it was a miss that passed near to the ship.\n\n\"Near\" in \"near miss\" is a synonym of \"close,\" not \"almost.\"", "I don't think \"nearly missed\" and \"near miss\" are the same thing. Probably because one is an adverb and the other is an adjective\n\nBut idk either", "It was a miss, but the miss was near to its target. It works both ways. English is silly.\n\nIf it had hit, the missile would have missed missing the Missouri", "I like that one guy had the foresight to stuff that cup of coffee in a drawer.", "Too young to buy a beer, but old enough to fire 2,700 pound armor piercing projectiles out of a giant naval gun.", "But a near hit makes more sense on land. Because something can hit near you. Though, that's a miss. So a near miss would be getting hit but not in the place intended. In water there's nothing to hit unless you hit the thing you wanted to hit. Or it hits something else that's close by. \"The bullet near missed my heart\". Sound like it hit the heart, but close from not hitting it. I was shooting at a rabbit and I near missed him, but he moved ever so slightly that it hit him. I was shooting at a rabbit and I near hit him. That's a miss.", "You're not wrong semantically speaking. I'm just saying the term near miss has standardized across industries. I work in finance with critical processes that can cause hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages if mistakes are made. If a mistake is narrowly avoided it is called a near miss. I've seen this term used elsewhere too.", "Pyridostigmine Bromide - anti-nerve agent pills that are thought to have contributed to Gulf War Syndrome.\n\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222848/", "Ask George Carlin", "No anti flash hoods or gloves?", "for my time in the navy, no one took brace for shock seriously.", "he died 13 years ago :(", "You would say you nearly hit him or nearly missed. A near miss refers to a miss that was near not a nearly missed shot", "I think I found the details of this event.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/DDfDnZ7FiZg", "Why does this sound like a Mitch Hedberg bit?", "https://youtu.be/DDfDnZ7FiZg?t=480\n\nwith a timestamp", "So the entire crew is paralyzed while the missile is inbound? Couldn't you denial of service (DoS) attack the ship this way? If you launch many inexpensive duds in series non stop to trick the crew into bracing for shock for a long time and they can't do anything else?", "Read Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy...it's a thing. Intended to flood the target's defensive systems to provide for a greater chance of a hit though.", "Thanks for the suggestion, I will definitely check it out.", "I believe this was in the plotting room, deep in the ship. The boxes in the middle of the room are the Mark 1A Fire Control Computer.", "A terrible loss for the whole world. He was a brilliant entertainer.", "Actually having a missile bearing down has a surprising effect on form", "Congratulations, you just discovered [force concentration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_concentration) and [saturation attacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturation_attack). I think the Romans got there before you, though.\n\nFYI, there's no point in making \"dud\" missiles that have the same sensor, guidance, propulsion and control surfaces, and leaving out a warhead. The warhead isn't the most expensive part; all the teeny-tiny electronics and software jammed into the missile chassis usually are.\n\nMissiles in general are inexpensive compared to a modern guided missile destroyer. An AGM-84 Harpoon costs about USD 1.4 million; an Arleigh Burke-class DDG costs about USD 1.8 billion. You can buy more anti-ship missiles with 1.8 billion than the DDG will be able to defend against.", "I didn't catch it but why were the masks deployed?", "Change the missiles to planes and you basically have the Battle of Midway.", "This is also how ICBMs work, launching out thousands of smaller projectiles while only one has is loaded with a warhead, to overwhelm missile defences", "In my understanding: The word \"near\" is added to a sentence to describe something to be, or an event to be happening physically nearby something else. The hit or miss event is the something, and the target is the something else. \n\nBy this logic:\n\nA near hit would be a hit that happens nearby the target.\n\nA near miss would be a miss that happens nearby the target.\n\nLooking at [wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/near), there are other descriptions of the word. For example Adjective nr.7: \"Approximate, almost.\"\n\nInterchanging \"near\" with \"[almost](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/almost)\" would give:\n\n\"An almost miss\"\n\nWhich would mean a hit, that almost missed.", "harder to send fully developed brains for brainwashing", "I figured as much but also the motto train like we fight rings in my ears. But in a real situation you are totally right.", "yvan eht nioJ", "These guys are operating in fifth fleet, you only need to be 18 to drink. Once they come home it goes back to 21." ]	37	videos	Battleship USS Missouri - Missile Inbound Brace for Shock
https://youtu.be/3C5Ry6uDo_g	/r/videos/comments/rfog78/real_ghosts_caught_on_camera/	[ "Naah i don't believe in ghost", "lololololololololol", "Well that was lame." ]	3	videos	Real Ghosts caught on camera
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfoseh/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rfoseh/deleted_by_user/	[ "”Today you, tomorrow, me.”", "Lucky to be alive!!!", "I'll reiterate my YT comment:\n\nNever, ever use a ladder while cutting/trimming/pruning a tree. Ever.\nIf dealing with a hollow tree/limb, call the professionals. It's not worth your life.", "Great point. I say this all the time. If you see someone show up to a tree job with a ladder get ready to call an ambulance. And your homeowners insurance. No licensed and insured tree guy is bringing a ladder. It's not if you are going to get hurt, YOU ARE GOING TO GET HURT!!!", "We didnt even have a ladder on our trucks back when I was doing treework.", "JFC you even had a steep downhill path and still fucked it up. Plus you never, ever, EVER stand where you are in line with something under tension. Also NEVER be on a ladder anywhere near a tree you’re toppling. You literally checked off every way to get your ass killed in that situation. You should never try going outside again.", "This is what I was going to say. In all my tree felling safety courses one of the biggest points they make is for you to plan an escape route to take before you even start cutting, and once you are cutting, stop and take your route as soon as you start to see movement. You do not want to be near a tree as I falls because you just don't know. It could kick out. It could bounce. It could drop a limb as it starts to fall. If it's dead it could snap in half partway up and have the crown come straight down. \n\nIf you're cutting a tree remember to get the hell away from it. Even a half foot thick tree can easily kill you if it moves unpredictably and strikes your head. You'll feel dumb running away but you'll be alive.", "A guy up the road from me was on the top run of a 30ft extension ladder, cutting down a ~50ft pine tree. Stupidity personified. He made the cut, the section above the cut swung down like a pendulum and sent him flying. He landed about 60ft from the tree. Helicopter had to be called in and got him to the closest trauma center. He survived but was wheelchair bound and succumbed in a few months. \n \nWhen I need to section a tree or prune limbs high up I rent a tow behind lift and double latch the harness so there’s no chance of bounce out.", "Cost of a life-saving lesson? One aluminum ladder.", "The first step to not being an idiot, is admitting to yourself that you’re an idiot.", "Lucky you didn't land on the running saw.", "Hollow trees are called \"widowmakers\" for a reason.\n\nSemi related: I recently bought a ladder and one of the reviewers complained that he used it only once and it was crushed by a falling tree. Fifteen people had voted that the review was unhelpful, lol.", "Congrats on not dying.", "I was a ground crew and the tree guy I worked for used ladders all the time. Guy was a lunatic.", "I sure wouldn't work for or with someone who would do that", "I didn't know the thing about the ladders for a while.", "Your guardian angel was working overtime that day.", "Hollow, rotted and dead trees are not called widow makers for nothing.", "So what SHOULD they turn up with? Stilts? A trampoline?", "used to use ladders to get into tree back before throw weights", "You laugh, but if that guy has another ladder that can survive that, I want to know the brand.", "If it's significantly heavier than my Grade II aluminum ladder, I'm not interested.", "Came here to say this. As soon as I saw the ladder I said he's an idiot regardless of the hollow tree.", "Climbing gear. A lift.", "Sure, but I'd love a carbon-nanotube ladder.", "If it's anything like a carbon bike frame then it's incredibly strong and stiff, but only for the normal operating forces it's engineered for. You're better off throwing it away if it takes any impact or gets so much as a scratch. Don't think it'll make a timber-proof ladder.", "I can't imagine arriving at the decision to use a ladder while cutting down OR pruning a tree.", "Why the NSFW tag?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8JD0adfhHM", "Odds are you were always the idiot and just found that out today.", "That seems like a wild exaggeration. Carbon fiber frames are incredibly resilient, even if their failure modes aren't the same as the metal ones they can often last for just as long.", "Completely disagree. Steel bike frames last longer than their riders and can be bent back into shape as needed... carbon frames should be considered compromised if the bike has been so much as dropped once from standing upright. I would never buy a used carbon frame unless I had an xray machine that could inspect the tubes for cracks. I was a bicycle mechanic in my wayward youth so that's my professional opinion.", "Wouldn't a ladder at least be useful for getting up to a point in a tree where you can start using repelling gear (isn't that's how its done? with repelling gear?)", "to add to this, even \"professionals\" make mistakes. Heard about a friend whos mom hired a tree pruning service to clean up a big tree in their back yard. Well, my friends mom decides to check how things were going and sees the tree pruner cutting the branch he was leaning his ladder on on the tree side of things. Apparently she said aloud at the time \"you don't think... he is going to-\" and he falls. \n\nLuckily, no the came out of it without any injuries... but yea... don't do risky work like that yourself if you don't have to. Also... get renters/home owners insurance.", "I always wonder about this because I know of two situations personally where the helicopter ended up being slower than an ambulance. \n\n\nHow far away was the trauma center? \n\n\nEven in once instance where my uncle was severely injured at lake powell (he had cancer, it was his favorite place to go and his bones were super weak, his leg and hip broke just from stepping weird on the houseboat). \n\n\nThey called in a helicopter. To get the decision made to get the helicopter to fly out, take off, and come, you could have driven to powell. Plus, there are ambulances AT lake powell. \n\nMind you, we were way up the river, so we had to take the boat with him down river to the bullfrog over the course of the night. \n\n\nThen, when he finally gets on a stretcher, which was arduous, and into the chopper, my cousins, his sons, get in the car and drive to the hospital in SLC he was getting taken to. \n\n\nBy the time the helicopter had landed and they'd got him off, my cousins were there waiting for him. And this was like.... a really long distance. I can only imagine for shorter distances it would only add even more time. \n\n\nThe other instance was a friend having to get helicoptered from our little town in CA to LA for an emergency surgery. They arrived in about the same time it would have taken to drive there, though if traffic had been bad or something the helicopter would have been super valuable.", "Yeah whatever the seller is asking needs to have the cost of a professional inspection taken off it\n\nAnd I'd only buy it from someone who I know so I can give it back no them and get my money back if the inspection is no bueno.", "I never encountered a situation in my personal cycling where the weight advantage seemed worth it relative to the costs and drawbacks of carbon... but I did live off the money I made catering to weight weenies, lol.", "Jetpack.", "> strap to pull. \n\nThat doesn't work. Also don't pick up that saw again until you've taken a safety course", "If you have the gear, there's no point in a ladder. You just use the gear.", "Nahhh", "Yup, my neighbor got up on a ladder to trim some branches from over his driveway. Next thing he know he was on the ground with a concussion, pissing himself. Messed up his hearing too.", "By this logic I will never die. I am indestructible. \n \n\"Oh no, no; in fact, even a slight breeze - \" \n \n\"...indestructible.\"", "Ha!\n\nHonestly, I'm 200lbs. If I want to save a Kilo, spending an extra grand on lighter components is far from the best way to do it!", "Right? Just take a piss before your ride and you saved more weight than $1000s of component upgrades", "Did someone die or not?", "Have a morning coffee and an epic shit and you're already ahead of the game.", "Good advice for any pursuit", "Why did you think tree services were a thing?", "I mean, you haven’t died yet, so for all you know you are immortal. Please don’t apply the scientific method to this theory.", "if i remember correctly i think that was an actual arborist too", "...indestructible", ">I say this all the time.", "Thank you for posting this. I’ve learned a lot about what not to do from all the people talking shit in this tread that I honestly might have tried myself. You could have already saved someone’s life by posting this.", "The first to arrive was someone from the volunteer fire dept who, seeing how fucked up he was, made the heli call immediately. An ambulance got there in around 15 minutes and the heli landed maybe 10 minutes later. Together they stabilized him and heli took him away. If the ambulance had taken him to the nearest trauma center, an easy hour and a half. Copter got him there in around 20 minutes. If the ambulance had taken him to the closest regional hospital, they would have had to call a heli. Semi-rural Alabama, don’t get hurt.", "So hollow tree or not; besides as someone else mentioned about never being on a ladder like that, you tied way too close to the cut for a proper falling.", "I think it's a bit of a joke, here its not safe for work because it was a very un-safe thing to do. Not safe anywhere, for that matter.", "That’s what blew me away with lake Powell… there’s no hospital… for hours. I guess maybe they life flight guys were having an off day. Also my uncle wasn’t easy to transfer… but that would have been the same story with a hospital or ambulance.", "Mt dad did this and fell pretty far to the ground, broke both bones in his lower arm at his wrist, had a pretty bad concussion and was knocked out immediately. This was in his mid sixties. He was a home builder and on ladders his whole life. But not with trees. The extension ladder was propped on the branch he was cutting and when the weight of the hewn limb fell the remaining limb catapulted him and the ladder away. The only bonus was that in the ER when he was semi-coherent and going in and out of discursive thoughts, he decided to ask my mom, in front of his 2 sons to come over and give him a blow job, because his head hurt. It was fucking hilarious.", "My dude. All for a fucking squirrel. You did everything you're not supposed to do with a chainsaw and more. But all that said at least your alive and realise you're an idiot. Looks like you can afford to hire a guy maybe just do that next time.", "The upside to a helicopter is that they can evaluate and stabilize patients in flight and choose an appropriate hospital. If the ambulance shows up and determines someone needs Trauma 1 care, and that center is hundreds of miles away, you want the helicopter. For example: Seattle’s Trauma 1 covers Alaska, Idaho, and part of montana. \n\nIf the helicopter takes someone to a low level hospital, even if slower than an ambulance, it probably means they were stabilized in flight, and arriving 20 minutes earlier wouldn’t matter. But having the option on hand to arrive at a level 1 or 2 traumas center hours earlier could have been paramount.", "They are? Only ever heard the term applied to cheap car jacks (and shitty fantasy swords). I suppose many professions have their equivalent though.", "Well in our situation it all would have been in SLC. The salt lake valley would have been the answer regardless.", ">Never, ever use a ladder while cutting/trimming/pruning a tree. Ever.\n\nThey do sell specialty ladders for tree work so that statement is not correct.", "We have pruning ladders we use in the forest the tie off at the top though.\n\nEven have a platform you chain to the tree to go up double height.", "Yes prusiks are cool as fuck and easy to use. \n\n\nNot as fast as a ladder though but we only use them for light pruning not taking out big branches.", ">him a blow job, because his head hurt. It was fucking hilarious. \n\nHe now has 2 concussions lol", "Why is this tagged nsfw?", "I came to post about how hollow trees are sketchy as fuck. I don't do tree trimming as a profession but I've taken care of property a long time, including a small amount of arborist work. \n\nLadders are bad. Hollow trees are bad. Don't do anything except trim branches of a tree without at least consulting a professional. Trees kill people.", "Professionals would not do this at work. Obviously.", "He was on a ladder. He was not a professional. Professionals use a lift or climbing gear, and professionals are insured and bonded so they are capable of insuring their own errors.", "Bruh calm tf down its not that big of a deal.", "You have important work to do still, and someone is watching over you. May they continue to protect you and don't ever hesitate to ask them for help. <3", "Yes I agree! They punched the clock twice I hope they keep protecting OP.", "> Seattle’s Trauma 1 covers Alaska, Idaho, and part of montana\n\nAlaska? Really? There’s no trauma center in all of Alaska? Not even in Anchorage or Juneau? \n\nThey have to fly patients down to Seattle? Come to think of it, surely there’s somewhere closer in Canada? Vancouver would be slightly closer.", "> You'll feel dumb running away but you'll be alive\n\nI think I’d feel dumb standing next to a falling tree", "Is using a rope to control the direction of the fall, a safe and legitimate thing to do? Like professionals would do that sometimes? Just don’t tie too close to the cut?", "But how do you tell if a tree is hollow, before you cut it?", "Either you were not in a hurry or something was in your way... it was most likely the ladder", "> Mind you, we were way up the river, so we had to take the boat with him down river to the bullfrog over the course of the night.\n\nThey probably decided to send a chopper so that they could retrieve him from up the river if you hadn't managed to take the boat.\n\nIt would have been bad if they sent an ambulance and then he was stuck up river.", "Na the decision to send the chopper was made like two hours after we got in contact with the marina. We were like twelve hours by house boat up the river.\n\nThey have ambulances at the marina.\n\nIn the end I think their intentions were good and to get him there as fast as possible (can you imagine 12 hours with your leg and hip broken riding up a river on a slow boat? It was horrible for him but pretty traumatic for everyone. We didn’t realize his bones were that weak. He was still walking pretty normally. Tough ole dude). \n\nI think it must have just not worked out as planned. They got hung up getting dispatched or something, transferring him to the chopper was kind of a shit show because it’s taking someone from the bottom of a huge boat ramp on a boat to the top of it, and then to whevevwr the chopper was, then taking off and flying and landing and repeat.\n\nWe had a speed boat but the ride would have been too rough and a though we might have been able to make a cot for him in it… the speed factor would have been cancelled out by the steadiness of the houseboat and the fact that he was in a real bed somewhat.", "Cutting hollow trees is considered an intermediate felling practice, consider yourself very lucky! 😅\n\nNever use a ladder 🤦🏼 rope or nope, bucket or fuckit... That's my line.", "Congrats on not being dead, moran! :D Glad you were quick on your feet.\n\nRIP ladder.", "Sure, to get into the tree, but never stand on it while making the cuts, always be tied off", "The guy I've worked with typically bores a hole into the trees he cuts down to check first, but there's also signs you can look for apparently that I don't fully understand.", "So does anyone know how professionals would go about this. I looked through all the comments and noone is talking about that", "yup!\n\nMy boss does the same thing.\n\nHe spends the money on the equipment. Gets a large lift to push the tree into the direction he wants it to fall, while I'm either stopping traffic, watching for traffic, guiding him with hand signals.\n\nTrees don't have feelings, don't fucking around .", "If you know its a hollow branch, I'd use either a bucket truck and take it down small pieces at a time, or use a crane to pick it as a single piece with two or three straps attached to the crane. \n\nI worked for a company with a crane, so we very rarely had anything go other than planned.", "Not “no traumas center”, but “no level 1 trauma center”. Alaska has fewer people than Seattle proper. Check out this map of US level 1 trauma centers:\n\nhttps://infotel.ca/images/news/cp/photos/gfx0042-617_2016_185425.jpg\n\nAnd the ever helpful wikipedia for further reading and nuance, if you care to. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_center", "My dad is at an age where he’s not steady enough to be on ladders but he’s also too impatient to wait for other people to do it and too stubborn to pay a professional so my choices are do it for him or watch him kill himself because if I don’t do it for him, he WILL try to do it himself. I’m genuinely worried he’s going to get me killed like that some day. And it doesn’t help that I’m afraid of heights. Tree trimming season is a scary time.", "Yeah, lots of professions have their widows :( At least in the case of fantasy swords, the danger is a fantasy too...", "Get an extendable pole saw", "[https://www.husqvarna.com/us/helmets/](https://www.husqvarna.com/us/helmets/)\n\nThere's more than 1 good reason to have one if these if you're going to own/use a chainsaw.", "I came for either boobs or gore and got neither! I WANT MY MONEY BACK!", "First thing I saw was you placed the strap just a couple feet from where you were cutting. This means it is pulling at that point. Depending on how tight you have that it is wanting to pull the bottom of the cut off tree, and about center of mass becomes the pivot point meaning the top will fall away from the strap.\n\nShould you have wanted it to fall the way you wanted you need to get a good 6-10 feet about center of mass so it tips that way.\n\nSecondly just cut the whole tree down and then either make the squirrel a new custom fab home with some insulation and spare bedrooms for when it has some kiddos, or just figure out a way to then section out it’s home and reinstall it after cutting the tree down.\n\nHowever just glad you are safe and able to post this so hopefully some people learn from this mistake.", "Absolutely; but only when it’s safe to do so. Source: My father is a certified arborist of many years.", "Not OSHA approved", "A dude from my work got laid off a few years ago. Something like 1 month later, just enough time for his benefits/insurance to expire, he got killed by a falling branch while trimming a tree. I felt horrible for his family....", "imagine getting so mad over this", "The irony of spelling moron wrong while applying it to somebody is not lost on me.", "Shit like that is so unavoidable with the minimal amount of common sense…", "115% of your money has been refunded", "Dumb question but why did the tree almost fall on top on top of him? Shouldn't the rope have pulled it to the side? What does hollow have to do with it?", "death wish", "I mean, that was the joke...", "hence the quotation marks. it doesn't matter what an actual professional is, most people will assume if they advertise the service they are qualified.", "Yeah I figured the quotation marks out after I hit reply, just really had my \"Telling People What Is Right\" boner pulsating when I typed that up, lol.", "lol fair enough." ]	110	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfpuyf/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rfpuyf/deleted_by_user/	[ "I would be the popiest pope that ever poped a pope", "Kiss my ring, hear the angels sing", "The world needs another Borgia pope. I would fit the bill to a tee…" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDN68LxWW-8&t=335s	/r/videos/comments/rfqbxj/daicon_iv_opening_animation_1983_anime_shortfilm/	[ "You linked with a timecode straight to the behind-the-scenes part...\n\nSupposedly Gainax is working on official remasters for Daicon III and IV!", "oh shit, I didn't intend to include that timestamp. and now I can't edit lmao", "Dang this is super cool, I wanted to compare it to the original non-upscaled version and it's crazy how much it's improved by AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brUwfQncCvI", "What makes this even more incredible was that it was entirely a passion project meant to showcase just what these young animators and fans could do. It's a real shame what Gainax turned into once the 2010s rolled around but their early influence, timeless classics, and talented staff (many of whom went on to create TRIGGER) will always be regarded with great respect", "Otaku no video was made by gainax.", "Wow that was incredible.", "Those guys are legit art school graduates. Not just some aficionados. Especially Hideaki Anno who was already considered genius among his peers even before Naussicaa.", "It seems like companies are always at their creative best when it's 6 people in somebody's garage. Then it's all downhill until finally the last members of that first generation quit and are replaced with six hundred identical clones of Bobby Kotick.", "FWIW a three decade run with the same people pumping out hit after hit is damn impressive. Plus the staff are all mostly together still, just with a different name and leadership.", "This was later \"parodied\" in the opening of the jdrama Densha Otoko\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJHRtklMRwc", "Gainax was always a shitshow. The only difference is that by the 2010s all their original talent had moved on and their reputation kept any new talent from even considering them as an option for a career in animation.", "Is this why the Otakon opening AMV contest video uses Twilight?", "Here is the original without the ugly upscaling - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brUwfQncCvI", "Kind of fit the main character being a otaku." ]	14	videos	Daicon IV Opening Animation - 1983 anime shortfilm by the group of aficionados who would later found studio Gainax (Evangelion, FLCL, Gurren Lagann, among others). Possibly the truest portrait of peak early-80s otaku culture.
https://youtu.be/uFeaugxheIA	/r/videos/comments/rfqx2b/ever_been_robbed_by_someone_with_ocd/	[ "That's not what OCD is", "Exactly. From the first scene, I was expecting the lock to be picked, then locked back up, the picked again, then locked, then picked...", "Ocdeez nuts", "Gah, I guess you're right. I suppose calling him a compulsive cleaner would be more appropriate?", "Well thank you much! :)" ]	5	videos	Ever been robbed by someone with OCD?
https://youtu.be/5WwY440RYew	/r/videos/comments/rfrbqu/man_this_videos_really_feel_realistic/	[ "He ded", "Dead and gone", "Do not drink and drive kids", "Indeed.", "If you think that's realistic you might want to turn away from the screen and go outside for a bit." ]	5	videos	Man this videos really feel realistic
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfrghk/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rfrghk/deleted_by_user/	[ "Glitter Bomb! Just in time for the Holidays.", "Looking forward to next year to see if he can take down some of those guys that break into cars. Somehow worse than porch pirates. Not only do you lose your stuff, but you have to replace a window too.", "Why is he not allowed to sell glitter bombs?", "It's a shame Mark Rober got caught faking stuff for these videos and an even greater shame he decided to ignore the disabled community's protests when he messed up earlier this year and made a fundraiser for a charity promoting eugenics.", "Love the boxing gloves hahaha", "sounds like an honest mistake that he didnt have information about and when he did he removed it. whats the issue exactly? have you actually read what he posted about the incident?", "Even more of a shame you are [misrepresenting the issue with the video](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-glitter-bomb-video-featured-fake-thieves-creator-says/2389954002/) and the [fundraiser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEXT_for_AUTISM).", "[NEXT for AUTISM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEXT_for_AUTISM) \n \n >NEXT for AUTISM is a non-profit organization founded in 2003 to address the needs of autistic people and their families. The organization was founded by Laura and Harry Slatkin and Ilene Lainer, none of whom outwardly identify as autistic, making this a non-autistic-led organization. One of NEXT for AUTISM's most well known accomplishments was opening the first charter school in New York to exclusively serve autistic students. Every two years, NEXT for AUTISM partners with Comedy Central to produce an autism benefit called \"Night of Too Many Stars\".\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "The link you provided does not support the thesis of your post.", "I don’t think it’s so much that he isn’t allowed but that his lawyer suggested he not sell them.", "- he didn't fake them, a friend of a friend did\n- it wasn't most of the reactions, it was 2 of them\n- it was only in one video, not multiple\n\nThis isn't that hard.", "Wow, what is wrong with San Fran where you can reliably get your car smashed in like that? Seems kinda wild to me.", "In a lot of states it's illegal to even set up your own booby traps regardless if you're doing it to stop a potential crime let alone trying to sell said booby traps.", "I think that only apply to traps that physically harm someone", "These can absolutely harm someone. A company that used sell glitter bombs you send in the mail got sued because a girl lost her eye from the glitter.", "Why do you think? \n\nPeople would be assholes and mail it to people they don’t like. It’s less of a theft deterrent and more of a “Weapon”.", "Damn you really got the fanboys riled up with that one.", "People are assholes, that's why. You can do some pretty cruel things with a glitter bomb.", "Need a few people hiding under blankets with a ~~shotgun~~ glitter gun", "2 of the fart canisters should be replaced with crazy glue - really make that glitter last. I wonder if any of the thieves were caught.", "Because the liability he would have if he got sued would be higher than the potential profit he could incur from sales.", "Do people not realise this is the perfect thing to send to someone you don’t like? \n\nfurthermore, these things get left outside your home. it only takes the thief a journey back to your home to smash your car windows and deposit the weapon into your car.", "Rober's Glitter Bomb videos have become an annual holiday tradition for me right alongside getting too drunk with my cousins and badly misquoting Die Hard on Christmas Eve.", "trademark issues, apple logo, etc.would be a lawsuit waiting to happen\n\namong many, many other reasons.. like how technical it is to use. the average person would have a lot of issues with it. between tracking it, pressuring the air chamber, refilling the glitter, making a charge port for it, managing the software on the phones...\n\nit would be a very expensive joke item, the 4 phones in it alone would be hundreds to $1000 of the cost, even if you are using older phones. the market for people willing to spend $100s-$1000+ on a troll item is extremely limited. \n\n\nand with all that said, there is still the liability issues as other people have stated.", "Replace the spinning glitter tray with a spinning buzz saw and replace the fart spray with ricin.", "Version 5.0 should include spray paint and other force multipliers.", "It'd be really awesome if stuff like this got really popular, as thieves would have to think twice before stealing anything.", "> Do people not realise this is the perfect thing to send to someone you don’t like?\n\nI would imagine this is precisely why Rober’s attorney counseled against making them available to the public.\n\nEdit: even if somebody did gift you one of these maliciously, you would still be responsible for your decision to open it while driving a vehicle. \n\n> furthermore, these things get left outside your home. it only takes the thief a journey back to your home to smash your car windows and deposit the weapon into your car.\n\nHow exactly would Rober be liable in this scenario?\n\nCell phones are responsible for tons of accidents on the road every year but we don’t hold Apple and Samsung responsible for people misusing their products.", "Or.. hear me.. mustard gas", "Rober would be selling a weapon. A phone is not designed to be a weapon.", "That's the crazy thing, homeless people just love stealing random shit and throwing it in the woods. I\"m always finding useful stuff back there. My security tip for avoiding car thefts is to buy a tarp and sow trash into it, so that you can blanket over the interior of your car and you look like one of those crazy people who hoard thousands of mcdonalds cups. Got thousand dollar instruments that never get stolen cuz my car looks like it's full of trash on top of them", "Rober probably cares a little more about his audience than just liability...", "When did he admit the videos are fake?", "Rober is not selling anything.", "I find it amazing this guy’s name is Mark Rober and he spends all of his time trying to mark robbers", "When the guy opened the package in the car he could have caused a car accident. I'm not sure but wouldn't Mark Rober be partially blamed if it were to go to court?", "Why did you just give away your secret on the internet?", "I bet you are correct but it’s besides the point. I contend that, in the invented scenario I was responding to, the accident was caused by the drivers decision to mishandle their vehicle, not the loud noise the driver caused to occur within their car. These packages are sealed. It didn’t go off by accident. It went off due to the drivers decision.", "Thieves don't browse reddit. There's nothing of any real value to steal here.", "Wonder why some of the porch pirates are blurred out in the video while some are not?", "What about my rare pepes?", "https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-glitter-bomb-video-featured-fake-thieves-creator-says/2389954002/", "Lots of wealth disparity.", "Lmao i love how your argument got fucked so you had to be pedantic about the wording.", "One problem is that lots of people see his videos and know what to expect", "You should listen to what the disabled community have said about the issue. They support abusive \"therapies\" which aren't effective at helping people with autism and cause extreme distress, seriously have a look at the issues raised by the disabled community. Next for Autism aren't a great charity and he was made aware, several people when informed left the fundraiser rather than doubling down but Mark Rober did not. I'm not misrepresenting either issue. He faked parts of the glitter bomb video and he ignored the disabled community instead of just... picking a different and better charity that actually supports the autistic community.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nhttps://themighty.com/2021/04/color-the-spectrum-autism-campaign-pushback/", "Maybe in 2050 it’ll just be an actual bomb, but with some glitter added.", "How do they reliably find someone to steal the package?", "Mark Rober said he was duped by someone that staged their reaction. He was very transparent about this and the overwhelming majority are legitimate.", "The fakes were only 1.0 and fully explained. There have been no fakes since. I mean, you can speculate all you want, but Mark has been straightforward with everything.\n\nHe's also not looking to get the police involved in most situations unless specifically noted.", "They have several of them spread out in areas with lots of porch thievery. \n\nIf I leave a package on my porch overnight it will probably be stolen because I live in a large(ish) city.", "In version 1.0 only and he had no intention of doing so. \n\n> Rober said he removed a minute and a half of the footage from the original video after learning that some of the “thieves” were actually acquaintances of the person he asked to help plant the packages on doorsteps. Rober said he agreed to compensate the person, who was a friend of a friend, based on the number of packages that were successfully recovered.", "Huh? How am I being pedantic? Rober is not selling anything and they are not weapons. The only thing these glitter bombs do is make a mess and inconvenience thieves. If somebody steals a package and decides to open that package while operating a motor vehicle then whatever happens as a result is on the driver. If I decide to eat a Big Mac while driving, have a heart attack and drive into pedestrian traffic as a result then I am to blame, not McDonalds.\n\nRegarding your comment to which I replied “Rober is not selling anything”: did I misread your comment or did you edit it? My argument doesn’t change either way. I’m just curious.", "Fucking for real?\n\n> Rober said he removed a minute and a half of the footage from the original video after learning that some of the “thieves” were actually acquaintances of the person he asked to help plant the packages on doorsteps. Rober said he agreed to compensate the person, who was a friend of a friend, based on the number of packages that were successfully recovered.\n\nGet your facts straight.", "It's good that there are fewer kids in the background this year", "Maybe because he doesn't have his facts straight?", "Shout out to Sean Hodgins who builds these things with Mark. I think it's a shame that Mark doesn't seem to give him credit. He appears briefly at the beginning of this video so I assume he was involved this time but who can tell? Here's the video Sean made showing the build process of the first version: https://youtu.be/IpMxOmUcfOI", "Why does he only blur some of the faces?", "That's not a fake video. That's him owning up four years ago that compensating people for dealing with this set up some bad incentives. He didn't hire people or arrange to stage it, and your comment isn't fair or accurate.", "Mark offered a return fee for recovered glitter bombs and some one he sent the box to was exploiting him. He removed the less then 2 minute section from the original video once he found out. These are 100% real. Here is the link from Mark explaining. [https://twitter.com/MarkRober/status/1075767629703372800?s=20](https://twitter.com/MarkRober/status/1075767629703372800?s=20)", "You took issue with the semantics. If you’re going to cry at me about his weapon not being legal at least back yourself up when you lose an argument.\n\nNot only that, I’m not saying that it’s only a weapon when opened in a car. A weapon is defined as something designed to cause physical damage and bodily harm. His glitterbomb fits this definition.\n\nYes, I did edit my comment to change “Rober is” to “Rober would be”.\n\nany further queries can sit read in my inbox. i don’t need to explain myself non stop.", "the fact that he admitted to some footage being fake?", "Jesus Christ San Francisco clean your city up", "I was thinking the same thing.", "I mean people steal content all the time. It’s not real value", "Thing is this doesn't really stop crime? It just playfully annoys thieves. I wonder if it's illegal to send people glitter bombs through the mail? There are several companies that you can pay to unexpected launch glitter at anyone you mail them to.", "Can you sue someone because you were hurt by something you stole from that someone? That sounds kind of insane.", "Possibility that they end up contacting the thieves and offer them a chunk of money to sign a release, as well as some strong worded 'we won't press charges, guaranteed' kind of stuff.\n\nAlso, for version 1/2 or something like that, it was proven that some of the reactions were faked and were just his helper's friends and such and that Mark 'didn't know'.\n\nWhich makes sense. Huge Youtuber with a good chunk of moolah making booby trap devices (which are a grey area at best and quite illegal the rest of the time) where someone could get in a wreck, glitter in their eyes, allergic reaction, etc. and Mark getting into a nice fat lawsuit. It just makes sense to make convincing fakes. Most people wouldn't care and Mark doesn't have to worry about accidentally harming someone.", "> Rober said he removed a minute and a half of the footage from the original video after learning that some of the “thieves” were actually acquaintances of the person he asked to help plant the packages on doorsteps. Rober said he agreed to compensate the person, who was a friend of a friend, based on the number of packages that were successfully recovered.\n\nHe didn't even know. It's OK for you to be wrong, you know.", "No, the fact that \"he faked most of the \"theif reactions\"\"", "Yes, if they knew it would likely hurt someone. https://youtu.be/bV9ppvY8Nx4", "What of what I said was wrong? I didn’t state that he knew.", "I didn’t say that", "And many of these revenge prank companies have been sued. Glitter can easily get in your eyes and cut them so badly you go blind. The problem with booby traps is they have wildly unpredictable outcomes. \n\nImagine one of the thieves takes the package home and doesn't yet open it, then a child comes by and opens it only to be hit in the face and blinded for life by the glitter. \n\nThat's the main reason why land mines and booby traps are banned or illegal all over the world. The victims can just as easily be unintended as intended. Innocent people can be caught up in it and harmed.\n\nIt would honestly be better if he just worked with local police to set up package thief stings using his 'bombs'. It would actually catch criminals and with the threat of jail time or hefty fines might actually deter future thieves.", "This video is my christmas present!", "It’s absolutely not that. It’s definitely because they consented to it for $$$.\n\nDo you really think rober is going to be showing the footage where someone realises it’s a trap and sends it to someone they don’t like? lmao", "Democrat stronghold. you do the math.", "We're driving up this weekend, I've never been before. \n\nI'm gunna go empty out my car.", "Because it's not \"fake\" if he didn't know.\n\nThis is comment your replying about getting fanboys riled up:\n\n> Less impressed with this clown after learning he faked most of the \"theif reactions\" to these videos\n\nYou think this is accurate? That he got his facts straight?", "It makes sense for Mark to fake all of the reactions. If some thief opens it while they're driving (like this video) and it spooks them and they crash and die, he's fully culpable.\n\nNo way someone with a huge platform with sponsors and lawyers doesn't fake this. I don't blame him at all. People get a funny video, Mark makes money and nobody is in danger. Win/win.", "The funny thing is that I 100% bet someone knew it was a trap and sent it off to someone they don’t like for a laugh. You only see what he WANTS you to see.\n\nIf I saw one of these in public i’d be sticking it in a postal bag, Rocking up to the address of someone I don’t like and putting it by their door. \n\nWhat’s he gonna do? Call the cops on me for harassing someone with his weapon?", "Have any data/analysis to back that insinuation up?", "Those were the videos/reactions they could prove were fake. Got sloppy with locations and people and internet sleuths could prove it was fake.\n\nThe others probably were as well. For someone as smart as Mark with lawyers and booby trap laws, it makes total sense to fake it. I wouldn't blame him one bit if he did.", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning", "Some people are to ugly for youtube.", "Yes. Where have you been", "Damn mate you're really struggling with this one\n\nIt's /u/CyrusRedblock who got the \"fans filed up\" by \"not having his fact straight,\" and the \"facts\" that he \"doesn't have straight\" are what he said [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfrghk/exploding_glitter_bomb_40_vs_package_thieves_mark/hog1ycn/), which is that Mark Robber \"faked most of the \"theif reactions\"\"\n\nYou slowing down the rest of the class", "Powdered sugar. attract some pests :)", "what is the “it” you’re referring to? The footage? The footage is still fake regardless of whether he knew or not. Nothing i have said false.\n\nYour logic is incredible. It’s OK for you to be wrong, you know.", "???\n\nyou’re crying at me on reddit when i’m saying nothing that is false.", "Insufferable.", "Yeah, someone as smart as Mark, who has lawyers who know the law and know that he could be held responsible for making booby trap devices, it makes total sense for him to fake the reactions.\n\nIt's just too much liability, and he isn't some 20k subscriber Youtuber with nothing to lose making real glitter bombs and giving (not giving, but he's still responsible if a thief gets hurt) them to unsuspecting victims. \n\nI wouldn't blame him at all if he faked (more) of the reactions. It'd be super irresponsible and frankly dumb if he were really doing this.", "The real reason is because he sets up these boxes in different states and different states have different laws regarding blurring peoples faces out. If you watch the prior years I think they address this.", "So if someone steals my just delivered knife set and drops one of the knives on their foot, they have some kind of case against me?", "Yes [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfrghk/exploding_glitter_bomb_40_vs_package_thieves_mark/hoggalz/) post here of you is false, because what you said are not the facts that are being discussed in this thread.\n\nSo yeah what you wrote is false, it's not the \"fact that Mark Robber admitted to some footage being fake\" that's getting fans riled up against the OP of this thread, it's the fact that OP of this thread think Mark Robber has deliberately \"faked most of the theif reactions.\"", "Nice", "So no. Thanks.", "Possibly depending on the state they were in?", "Honestly I've always felt these videos were completely ineffective and really don't make a difference. The idea of it is fun, but it doesn't really stop crime, or help capture criminals. It would be more effective if they just left out iPhones and had the police on board to immediately track the phones.\n \nMaybe he should also consider cutting out the glitter. It really does seem to be a high risk/low reward attribute of his device.", "Feel free to point to the part where I suggested that I was referring to a statement made by u/cyrusredblock .", "Makes sense for the first one to kind of get it going, but I think it’s just depending on the state.", "Doesn't that only work if someone can prove it's actually a trap, as opposed to just theft of something left in an unsecured place?", "Stick some books in your car , the democrats of San francisco won’t touch those", "Don't leave anything visible in your car. If you need to put anything in your car, do it in the trunk where its not visible.", "The flow of the conversation you fucking baboon \n\nYou (to CyrusRedblock): Damn you really got the fanboys riled up with that one.\n\nSomeone else: Maybe because he (Cyrus Redblock) doesn't have his facts straight?\n\nYou: the fact that he admitted to some footage being fake?\n\nMe: No, that's not \"the fact\" we're discussing.", "Yeahhhh!!!... Wait... Is that illegal", "No, they don't have a case because the knives were not meant to be stolen. The glitter bomb was designed to be stolen and is made to cause \"damage\".", "Brilliant", "The second guy must not be able to smell or is so used to the smell of farts that he enjoys the fart spray", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech\n\nIt’s hilarious that you’re so butthurt about me shitting on robey that you have to argue semantics.", "Desktop version of /u/BlondeClan's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "I don't... know who you're insulting here if I'm honest.", "that sounds like a you problem my friend", "that’s actually a fantastic idea, but also sad that you have to stoop down to living like you’re impoverished to not have stuff stolen by poor people. \n\nPeople wonder why private neighbourhoods exist. This is why.", "They went to san francisco.", "Very annoyed that he's gonna do it next year, when it's such a good idea just for a while series. He could clean up San Fransisco with those things. Just take out the noise things and keep the trackers.", "We'll never know. You're just operating on such an advanced level.", "I don't have to, I'm just enjoying it because I can hear your gears grinding all the way from over here.", "And replace the confetti with shrapnel!", "The good thing is if you forget to, the locals can help.", "I assumed it was because of state laws (because I was pretty sure he sent these out to different states), but I checked the description of the previous videos, and this is in Version 2.0's description.\n\n> ANSWER TO FAQ- The reason some peoples faces are not blurred out is because those people signed releases allowing me to show their face.\n\n(Just found some extra info, he has sent them to different states before, don't know about this years though.)\n\nhttps://youtu.be/a_TSR_v07m0?t=310", "not gonna lie I've kinda wondered if you could get away with having an actual bomb in the package, most of the thieves open the package at home or whilst driving away so authorities would have a hard time tracing a random explosion in someone's car or home to you, hypothetically speaking of course\n\nEDIT: guys I know its bloody well illegal, I'm talking about getting away with murder", "Laws only “work” if someone can prove you broke them. It doesn’t mean that something is legal just because you could lie your way out of consequences.", "You're very cool.", "I preferred the other version of your comment better.\n\nYou thought I wouldn’t notice, But I did. Bless.", "More like it's a substitute for something else that would've been stolen.", "~~For what it’s worth it’s kinda shitty he is using glitter bombs. It’s great on the whole piss off the thief angle, but he’s headlining the “Team Seas” yet starts shooting glitter which is a micro-plastic wrecking havoc on our wildlife and waterways.~~\n\n~~He seems like a smart dude so not really sure how he hasn’t drawn the parallel on how these 2 vids contradict each other.~~\n\nApparently it was in the commercial part of the video which I’d skipped, but biodegradable glitter is still harmful for the environment even if it isn’t the micro plastic. \n\n\nhttps://aru.ac.uk/news/glitter-litter-could-be-damaging-rivers-study", "Might as well just go the distance and release bed bugs and lice haha.", "I once had my car window broken for a cd case full of burnt cds. Literally the only thing they took.", "You just described the Unabomber... And he was getting away with it for 20 years.", "Isn't doing something that's against the law but suffering no consequences the same as if the law never existed?", "Are people dumb enough to actually believe these are real?\n\nCritical thinking skills are quickly becoming archaic.", "Bro, they are stealing shit from normal people, not billionaires. The city is just infested with scum, simple as that.", "To people at the bottom, middle-class is closer to billionaires than to them.", "Sarin gas", "What is even your point? That it's OK to smash and grab shit so long as the victim is middle class and you're poor? These criminals are NOT the victims here, the working class people getting their cars vandalized are.", "I'm pretty sure he mentioned something about it being biodegradable glitter.", "Not a lawyer by any means but I think intent plays a big part in if it is deemed as a trap. Mark's packages have the intent to be traps and cause nuisance. \n\nAlthough at the same time, they dont have the intent to cause bodily harm \n\nA car accident caused from one of the packages would be an interesting case", "No, that would be considered a booby trap and is illegal, even if it is on your property.", "Realize that in the eyes of the law, intent is everything.", "Too much glitter, not enough bomb.", "You can't prove that. You can however prove (with this video btw) that it was a purpose built trap to be stolen and to cause damage to a person opening the package (which may not even be the thief btw).", "Yeah look like .", "You just blew my mind", "No issue as long as property values keep increasing.", "Ummmmm\n\nYou might want to see a mental health professional.", "> what is even your point? That it's OK to smash and grab shit so long as the victim is middle class and you're poor?\n\nWhere did I say any of that?", "The implication", "Some state laws don't require consent / releases I assume.", "Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it will be to separate glitter from blood? /s", "What are you trying to say then?", "I mean, calling people scum is pretty redic. These are still people. Also, if you combine tons of wealth with lots of desperate people, you will find this. The larger the wealth disparity gets, the more commonplace this stuff is.\n\nAlso, they aren’t trying to make some political stance targeting wealthy folks, they are trying to get ahead in one of the ways they know how in a system that doesn’t. \n\nI’m not excusing their behavior, it sucks - but if you don’t try to understand and instead just paint with a broad brush of “scum” you are only contributing to the same system that built problems like this in the first place.", "Look, none of these thieves are in danger.", "Quite frankly you are the one that doesn't understand. You're trying to make this political, but it's not. There are just bad people out there who don't give a shit about anyone else. It's got nothing to do with, \"the system\". There are bad people of every income level.", "This video has so many ads I feel like it’s stolen my life. Jesus Christ.", "Holy crap bedbugs might be thousands of dollars worth of damage and sanity", "That’s not really any better, it just takes you away from the micro plastic problem. \n\nhttps://aru.ac.uk/news/glitter-litter-could-be-damaging-rivers-study\n\nThe other stuff he includes is annoying enough that he could drop the glitter portion and still piss the thieves off.", "He just means Black People", "For some people, in a particular area, their strategy is to completely empty their car, glove box, center console, of any items whatsoever. Then park, roll down the windows, and open glove box / center console. So it's very obvious there's nothing to steal. And the windows don't need to be broken.", "Its biodegradeable. I think an earlier video has him researching it more.", "The same type of person stealing packages, yeah", "There are hardly any black people in San Francisco, but don't let the facts get in the way of your racism.", "Oh I know but that doesn't register because to Republicans democrats = scary black people", "He switched to biodegradable glitter back on v2.0 and it's mentioned as still being used at about 5 minutes into this video during the fake commercial bit.", "You need to learn that understanding and explaining the reasons for some actions is not the same as saying that the actions should be accepted.", "Don't get locked up for life. Be smart bout these bait.", "Boobytraps are illegal as balls and you're gonna get all the attention if you redmist a guy on your lawn.", "I've never known anyone's car to get broken into in the area I live in, then one night I ended up getting back home late from work before going out to a friend's. Parked up outside my house and left my work uniform in the back.\n\nAnnnnnd it got broken in to. Came home the next day to see my waistcoat at the bottom of my street then got to my car and noticed the door was open.\n\nApparently all you needed to do was stab a screwdriver into a certain part of the door and it opens the lock without making much noise at all.", "CENTIPEDES", "I’ll be honest I missed that because I skipped the commercial, that said biodegradable glitter is still bad for the environment.\n\n\nhttps://aru.ac.uk/news/glitter-litter-could-be-damaging-rivers-study", "I'm saying your explanation is wrong. Someone having more money doesn't automatically make them any less shitty of a person. Indeed I'd argue the richest man in the world right now is a pretty shitty person. Being rich also doesn't make someone any less likely to steal (although it may change the manner in which they steal). My point is simple: even if there were no inequality whatsoever you would still have assholes like these who think they are more important than anyone else. The operation shown isn't some desperate poor person anyways, it's clearly an organized crime gang targeting the area. They are career criminals.", "I watched this and was immediately afraid the punch gloves would be too close to a booby trap. Just imagining a their standing over it and gets punched in the face and decides to sue. \n\nA bomb is way over the line.", "I think Tom Mabe did one where he loaded it with poop and a timer to explode. No cameras in the box tho so you just see the guy drive off and a few moments later slam on the brakes and throw the broken box out the window.", "You can't get away what he is doing legally either.\n\nOne of the thieves freaks out as the glitter bomb starts counting down and swerves hitting a car (or somebody) and the YouTuber is going to share legal responsibility.\n\nI know people aren't going to like hearing it, but this video series is one swerve away from someone innocent dying. The guy in the video who was completely non-nonchalant after opening it in his home still made tons of errors when driving when it started going off in his car. Now imagine someone more volatile doing it. \n\nThe bait package is made with the intention that someone will steal it, and is made with the intention of freaking people out. \n\nThere is no way to escape responsibility if something bad truly happens.", "I did not offer an explanation. Even if you disagree with the explanation, the point still stands. More time on understanding, less on ranting.\n\n> even if there were no inequality whatsoever you would still have assholes like these who think they are more important than anyone else.\n\nEvery study on the issue shows that income disparity increases crime and lessens feeling of safety. Regardless of absolute levels.\nBut sure. Total equality would not eliminate it. And no one has said it would. Any more straw men you need to knock down?", "Needs more C4 and less glitter", "Do you live in a major American city?\n\nAll jokes aside, its a survivor bias thing. There's obviously no footage of packages not being stolen and opened.", "Not to mention more and more people are choosing to live out of their vehicles — sometimes everything in the car is all that person has.", "Just a couple years ago I had a binder of CDs stolen. Wtf are there going to do with them? Pawn then for $20?", "Found the Tucker Carlson fan", "Vancouver is like that too. Every parking garage and even parks have huge signs reminding people not to leave things in their car.", "How would you know? You’re a Republican?", "The bomb countdown thing might not be a good idea", "If other tech products evolved this fast, we would by now be stealing each other's porch packages...on Mars.", "They decriminalized petty theft under $950.\n\nSo yeah, that's what wrong, the wokeness.", "Really cool video and very funny!", "Imagine one of the thieves opens it while operating a motor vehicle on a roadway at speed.. Genuinely surprised that one didn't end up worse than it did. I don't condone porch piracy (and do enjoy these videos) but fuck man I'd be lying if I said I didn't think something will go wrong eventually.", "Or maybe just build a more equitable society with less poverty.", "Just wait till you see how bad the shoplifting situation is in San Francisco.", "Which now kind of stops my thought of using paint sprayers in my version. The person knows where they got the package at, your home, and they might come back seeking damages. Glitter and fart spray are suuuuuper annoying, but have a very low chance of causing damage. But like the chances of being killed by a baby, it's never zero percent. Lol", "Didn't even consider that. Yea. That's a whole other issue, both with mental health and/or housing prices. :\\", "never going to happen. “Equity” isn’t the paradise you think it is.", "Weren't thess videos found out to be staged? They had apparently caught them using the same actors from previous vids\n\nEdit: I'm pretty surprised that people are all up on this YouTube creator's nuts. He's made his money. Even if it's fake, the guy clearly won. Not trying to hate, I just appreciate authenticity, not misleading people. But hey, it's all for entertainment purposes right?", "dude... at 14 min in that is like... rage educing, fucking ptsd, just watching it has me fucking boiling. if i were that guy yelling at them i would get in my truck and make it my mission to ram that fucking car straight into a god damn light pole and get my front wheels into the front seats.... fuck those people", "Well then get used to desperate people taking your shit I guess.", "I don't think anybody wondered that", "The fact this guy had a job with NASA and left to do YouTube videos makes me giggle", "“desperate”? no no, poor people. \n\nGive everyone the same amount of money and in 10 years it’ll reset itself. while there’s victory and loss life will have winners with more and losers with less.", "i’m british you spanner", "it means try harder next time", "Well Ad-blocker exist like Ublock", "Still not sure how people didn't figure out that they're fake after the first one. I get it that lawyers probably told him he was liable if he did it for real but OK'd doing it with actors. \n\nFor christ sake the first video he did had footage from cameras mounted inside some of the \"culprits\" cars.", "The dude that opened the box while driving could easily hurt somebody.", "https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone?hl=en", "Thankfully the rate of petty crime dropped significantly!\n\nEdit: This is a joke and not actually based on any fact", "They leave a high valued item exposed until someone takes it. You're only seeing when someone takes it. Not the time the packages sit there.\n\nThe San Francisco bits are the ones that shit happens fast.", "Lol yeah uh yeah....\n\nEdit: ya know because they made it not a crime anymore", "the more I see of this shit, the more I wish you would put bombs in these things.", "Man that sounds amazing, I bet that law alone has some detrimental affect on would be thieves. Vehicle break ins are so common where I live and the cops are so overloaded that unless a firearm was stolen they do not do any investigating.\n\nI've had 3 vehicle break ins and the last one I came out and saw the guy doing it and scared him off after he did 4k of damage. I even got a license plate and description but the officer said not to expect anything out of it.\n\nI also live in a 16 unit apartment complex and within the past 2 months there's been 2 neighbors and 1 roommates car broken into , 1 person arrested for trying to break into the parking garage, and 1 person observed on a ring cam trying to open front doors. And this is one of the nicer places I've lived at in the past 15 years lol", "Get ready for a surprise[!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPumsKqIeBA)", "If he has money he'd be named.", "Mhmm", "> If some thief opens it while they're driving (like this video) and it spooks them and they crash and die, he's fully culpable.\n\nPeople can't be reasonably expected to open a package like this while operating a vehicle. He has lawyers and has gotten advice about this.", "I’m curious had the thief gotten in a car accident and died or killed someone would the YouTuber be at fault at all? Technically the package firing caused the driver to hit that person.\n\nEdit: just in general if someone else is hurt due to someone opening up a trap is that blame on the YouTuber or the person?", "Mark (I know you’re in here) for v5 replace 2 of the fart sprays with spray glue. Only thing worse than glitter is it being glued to everything you own.", "Its a literal shit hole city.", "One strategy I've known people to use is that they remove everything from the car that they reasonably can, and just leave it open. I've seen signs on windows that say things like, \"Please don't break my window; the door is open.\"", "Shocker, a liberal uses an \"ism\" to avoid having a discussion.", "Which is probably why I don't recall seeing a similar comment last year.", "Make a glitter bike next year!!!", "I had my car window smashed, which I JUST got back from the tinter which I got for as a Bday present to myself, and they took..... nothing, cos I had nothing in the car to take. Not only that the glass fragments that smashed in actually tore chunks out of my dash.", "His creations are a disincentive to thieve off porches. I would love to see these things available for sale and be more widespread, making porch piracy that much less attractive an option for people.", "Sad thing is it used to be a spectacular city and they have absolutely ruined it. Covered in homeless shit and riddled with crime, all while house values are orders of magnitude more than other states. Like a dystopian movie.", "Maybe where he got the idea from.", "Looks like 2018 had some faked stuff\n\n[https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/glitter-bomb-video-was-partially-faked-former-nasa-engineer-confirms.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/glitter-bomb-video-was-partially-faked-former-nasa-engineer-confirms.html) \n\n2019 article mentions 2018 fakery, nothing about that year [https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/118255770/viral-glitter-bomb-creator-updates-fake-package-with-macaulay-culkin](https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/118255770/viral-glitter-bomb-creator-updates-fake-package-with-macaulay-culkin) \n\nClicking around I couldn't find any 2020 articles mentioning the 2018 fakery", "A reminder once again: This is very illegal.", "Not to mention you're inflicting them on all the neighbors too, if you do that. Plus anyone on any public transit that these thieves ride on.", "Is there a link to the specific study that they did? I'm not a fan of glitter so if its negatively associated with porch pirates I am fine with that, how much glitter is he causing to be dumped in the rivers vs how much people are reminded that glitter sucks?\n\nI do wonder if its like one package being enough to glitter bomb a local duck pond, vs enough to fuck up the Mississippi", "matrix is glitching", "Why can't people just not be cunts. That's what I want to know", "Every year I watch the new video, and every year I have the same thought. Has a copycat been made yet where the payload is actually designed to cause harm? \n\nOpens box> \n\"You have 18 hours to live\" plays \nLiquid LSD/urushiol starts spraying everywhere \nCountdown to from 10 begins/ends \nThermite reaction starts\n\nCan you imagine the criming community reaction to headlines like that?", "Let me see if I can can find the video", "Yeah. Setting traps for people is no bueno, legally or ethically.\n\nThink about it. Let's say you booby-trap your front door so that if it gets broken into at night, it shoots a crossbow arrow at the intruder.\n\nThen imagine that your house catches fire. The firefighters bust in the door to rescue your singed ass, and one of them takes an arrow to the cranium.\n\nI have a real-life example of when one of these situations went wrong. It happened to a coworker of my mom's:\n\nMom worked at a factory making steel parts with CNC machines. One of their coworkers was notorious for stealing people's lunches out of the refrigerators in the cafeteria. So somebody got fed up with him and decided to lay a trap for him. They baked a nice big plate of brownies laced with a CRAP-TON of laxatives, covered it in foil, and set it in the cafeteria in the fridge with a little label on it that said \"Becky's Dessert\" (I'm using a fake name here, but the woman used her own real name).\n\nWell, lunch time comes around, and they find that not only is half of the plate of brownies missing, but the thief (we'll call him Bob) is too. By this point, several of the other employees have cottoned on to Becky's strategem, since she's decided now is a good time to start bragging about it.\n\nThen, just when she thought she had earned a much-deserved victory, she found herself in a hell of a pickle. Bob was currently in the fetal position in the men's bathroom, going into cardiac arrest. As it turned out, one of the components of the laxatives Becky poured into her brownie mix didn't play nice with one of Bob's heart meds, and it sent his heart into a haywire death-spiral. He managed to live long enough to get put into the ambulance, but he died on the way to the hospital.\n\nBecky was sunk. At least a dozen of her coworkers knew she made the brownies and put them in the fridge. And because of that, the cops knew who made and planted the trap. It made no difference that she labeled it with her name, to signify that it was hers. She bragged to others that she had made it because she was \"sick of Bob's shit.\" She put it there with the express intent to have him eat \"poisoned\" food. She went to prison for ten years for poisoning and manslaughter.", "The horn is absolute gold. You open the package, the horn goes off, and everybody within earshot turns their head just in time to see you get glittered, sprayed and photographed. It's like a modern day PG tarring and feathering for thieves.", "I've seen 20 smashed windows in Van over the last few months. I've heard stories of one person unfortunate enough to have it happen to them multiple times, and entire blocks of cars having their windows smashed. \n \nThe police don't give a shit, and neither does the city. The wealthy all have nice garages, so the middle class pays for this shit.", "It's actually not any worse than other years (crime has gone down year over year for the last few decades), but the store owners need to create an outrage about their insured merch so here we are", "There will always be shitty terrible thieves but if we built a society that eradicated POVERTY you would have significantly less crime overall.\n\nThat does not equate to pure economic equality, which is not what OP was trying to say.", "Glitter catalytic converter bombs", "No, the sad thing is that even in the current state it's basically impossible to live there if you're making under 100K. Bunch of high-earning suckers and crackheads. I went there not too long ago just to take in the sights, smell the fresh air, and first thing I saw was a homeless lady throwing a bottle of her piss at another homeless gentleman. And yet the wealthy bitch about how all the Bird scooters are bringing their city down.", "Thank you for pointing out credit where it's due", "Elaborate", "Why do I hear dubstep", "If you purposefully leave valuables in plain sight in a bad area with the hope of attracting thieves, you might attract thieves. I've parked my cars in San Francisco for years and no one has so much as scratched my car.", "Yeah but there's still people who steal dozens and dozens of packages and nothing bad happens. So they see these and think oh that won't happen to ME", "I believe once he found that out, though, he cut those parts out of the video so that it was only genuine reactions/pirates", "Seems a great way to get charged with murder, especially if and WHEN someone opens it and weren't the ones who sold it. Like the pawn shop owner in this video what if he had bought it and opened it later?", "Yeah but who's gonna prosecute and what damages will they claim?", "Yeah thats kind of the reason I thought the ones going off in cars weren't exactly the safest. Covering somebodies windshield with glitter and honking a car horn doesn't sound like... the safest idea.", "fuck that", "he got thieves to sign a release?", "Well his reputation is pretty good, I think in the past it was found that some of the volunteers (to have the package on their porch) for one of these staged something on their own, I don't think there's been any credible evidence that Mark is intentionally staging any of this. I belive he also had police involved in one of them?", "You think the meth heads will stop stealing because they have enough money to fuel their poor life choices? You are delusional.", "Niche online communities of savvy middleclass tech consumers do not represent the disabled community.", "Do you have some kind of argument that it's not? Mark Rober as far as I know is regarded as pretty credible so you're gonna have to back that statement up bud", "Man, too bad we cant in AZ. That would be great.", ">\\shotgun gun\n\n&#x200B;\n\nYou were right to start.", "You would think if they have a car they would GTFO of California.", "If you do not value rare treasures, you will stop others from stealing. -Lao Tzu", "The headline for that would probably make the people stolen goods are fenced to extra leary. I'm not saying anyone should do this, for the record. I'm wondering if anyone upset at porch pirates has watched these videos, thought they didn't go far enough, and made something malicious. Would we even hear about it if they had?", "I thought that it was a friend of Mark's was in charge of setting them out, and the friend paid some of his buddies to pick up a couple of them to speed things up. Not exactly paid actors.", "Why not just replace the glitter with paint? Theft is serious, and I would argue that thieves deserve a harsher surprise than some glitter and fart spray.", "Wow, really? I've not been to Vancouver, but I always got this vibe that it was this perfect model city from my friends who lived their in the past. Has it changed dramatically in the last few years?", "> First few versions of this prank were proven to have used hired actors to take the packages.\n\nSource? As far as I know all that happened was in 1.0 two reactions were faked because Mark used a friend of a friend as a volunteer to put it on their porch and they decided to do it themselves. Rober did not know at the time of uploading. He edited the video and removed the offending clips.\n\nIs there any credible source or proof of Mark faking any of these?", "Vancouver's fucked dawg. I'm making some money and getting the fuck out. This place is a sweatshop fire.", "watching this is like watching a behind the scenes of poor people", "He also built parts of a Mars Rover - an even better naming coincidence (which apparently he didn't notice for ages)", "Maybe it's just semantics, hired actors just sounded too... organized to me from what actually is alleged to have happened.", "Well, that's dissapointing to hear.", "Man that black dude couldn't do any better? Downvote away but what in the world does he see in her, her personality?", "He needs a way to make the top unable to be put back on after it was opened", "Yeah, I'd like to see it too. You know those videos where they open a can of rotten fish (its a swiss food or sonething) and they all start puking? We need that.", "I hear version 5 is going to have anthrax instead of glitter.", "First year he did it he sent them out to some friends to help him out.\n\nHis friends staged the lifts without his knowledge.\n\nIIRC he reedited that video to not include them and released a statement/video addressing it.\n\nYou can choose to believe/not believe his statements on it.", "Extortion?\n\nEdit: not extortion", "Public hangings for Porch Pirates would be great entertainment.", "Coz Sean get paid by Mark?", "Guy broke the lock on my Wrangler glove box and stole the owners manual. It was in a really sweet canvas holder that came with it.", "TIL an attorney threatening a lawsuit is extortion. Oh wait, it isn't. Probably gonna see some Chicago lawyers make this argument when their defendant is on trial for felonies. \"The big bad lawyer made my client so scared when he said they would press charges! You can't understand the emotional trauma my client has suffered!\"", "I mean he's been doing it for four years now, and even says in this video that the cops love what he does.", "Just be glad you aren't living there", "That shit was happening for years before this. Don’t kid yourself.", "And then couple that with the fact that those rich motherfuckers refuse to allow any shelters to be built or actually do anything meaningful to help the homeless people out in any way whatsoever, and it just makes the problem worse and worse.", "lmao could you imagine that's the 5th generation glibber bumb?", "Mate, if shooting someone \"sounds amazing\" you need some psychiatric help.\n\nI own guns, I wish to never even point them at anything other than a paper target.", "Why would someone spend hundreds of dollars to stage a video just because they make a million dollars a year worth of views on their channel... oh wait.", "> I bet that law alone has some detrimental affect on would be thieves.\n\ni dont think the statistics support that", "you can never know other people's motivations unless they tell you. Humans are more complicated and more simple than you think.", "Ford ranger from the 90s? Unscrew antenna, insert in a hole by driver side handle and unlock it", "brb, gonna steal that redditor's trash", "He used friends & relatives in some of the clips of his first glitter bomb video. Probably the others too. I haven't tried to see if he's been called out on it again since then.\n\nSource: [https://twitter.com/MarkRober/status/1075767629703372800](https://twitter.com/MarkRober/status/1075767629703372800)\n\nMaybe most of the footage is legit, maybe not. It's hard to see through the spin. Either way, we know how \"pranking\" works both on Youtube & TV... It's often fake, if only for legal reasons.", "Uh huh\n\nWell all I found was what I already explained so...", "Well I'll be damned the property crime rates and \"thefts from vehicles\" are indeed [going down](https://sfgov.org/scorecards/public-safety/violent-crime-rate-and-property-crime-rate) in SF.", "Leave the doors unlocked and nothing of value in there... Helps not get your window smashed. if youve got a rag top car DEFINITELY don't lock your doors, they'll just cut the top", "Sponsorblock friend :)", "I can tell you don't live in SF if you think this is only happening in bad neighborhoods.", "I'm not trying to start an argument but what does that have to do with being woke?", "Yippy kie eh bully papper", "> it's basically impossible to live there if you're making under 100K\n\nIf you want your own apartment in a nice part of town, sure. A ton of people have roommates and live comfortably.", "“Sign the release and we won’t press charges. Capiche?”\n\nAlso some people are fucking idiots and jump at the chance to get on camera.", "Hope that fart spray seeps into their carpets", "1-2 were staged by a third party. That's a far cry from saying the entire video is staged.", "[Larceny is actually up in SF 18.3% in 2021 vs. 2020](https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/stay-safe/crime-data/crime-dashboard)\n\nTo make sure larceny is defined as I assumed, the SFPD kindly defines it as:\n\n \n>The unlawful taking, carrying, leading, or riding away of property from the possession or constructive possession of another. Examples are thefts of bicycles, motor vehicle parts and accessories, shoplifting, pocketpicking, or the stealing of any property or article that is not taken by force and violence* or by fraud. Attempted larcenies are included. Embezzlement, confidence games, forgery, check fraud, etc., are excluded.\n\nMurder, assault, and sex trafficking are up. But, rape is down. Everything else is pretty close to unchanged.\n\nEdit: grammar", "You should see r/jokes then! Shots stolen all day every day there!", "Not really, and not anymore. The staged portions were removed from the video.", "This may be a dumb question... but isn't that asking to get your car stolen? Even if they don't want to steal the car, I've had my car window smashed twice for guys trying to steal my car radio.", "This just brought back a memory of when I was like... 15ish?\n\nMy dad comes in the house and asks me mom why she left her car door open, and all her shit thrown about the car.\n\nHe was completely 100% serious.\n\nHe somehow couldn't think of a reason why the car door would be wide open, the glove box and center console dumped out other than mom must have done it.\n\nI don't think I've ever seen my mom more confused as to what someone was talking about in my entire life.", "It's not uncommon to see people casually walking up out of a store with something without paying for it. Property crime is \"down\" because they're underreporting crime. Anyone who has been to SF in the past year knows this. Police don't give a shit anymore because the DA refuses to prosecute regular thieves anymore.\n\nTo the downvoters: I'm not making this up. [This shit](https://www.businessinsider.com/timeline-stores-raided-thieves-macys-nordstrom-california-2021-11) didn't used to happen.", "I've come to realize that there is a significant population that would gladly lynch people given the chance. It's really sad", "dam we can fix all this by just eradicating poverty. Cant believe no one thought of trying that option.", "Guy ran a red at 9.25 because he was distracted. Could have killed someone.", "I don't think you know what equity means.", "Could have been stealing lifesaving medicine or medical machinery, could have killed someone.", "equity does not mean equality. equality is not possible. I will never be as smart as einstein or has the kind of savy musk has or have the prowest jordan has.\n\nEQUITY means FAIR and IMPARTIAL not EQUAL.\n\nstrive for equal and everyone loses. fair and impartial is absolutely within our means.\n\nand yes MOST crime stems from poverty. there is a DIRECT correlation between poverty and crime that is indisputable.\n\nits not a race thing. its a poverty thing. we \"changed\" our racism into classism to hide it by making most of the races we don't like POOR.\n\nEnd poverty and you really do fix a LOT of the problems we have. not all of course but a LOT of the problems.\n\nthis is the lowest crime and safest time in all of human history. yes. right now. you have NEVER been safer (in general)\n\nthis is due almost ENTIRELY to reducing poverty.", "I am saying most of them WILL NOT BECOME METH HEADS TO BEGIN WITH.\n\nexceptions? always. but MOST are poverty based.", "Yeah but the proximate cause would be the action of the booby trap, not the theft.", "I don't see a problem with this. if YOU decide my stuff is worth more than your own life that is your decision not mine. I am keeping my stuff. you decide how much its worth.", "None of them really seem to react much at all to the fart spray, seems to me it's nowhere near as potent as that clip with the Home Alone kid would suggest.", "I'd like to see one situation of ultra fine cosmetic grade glitter causing blindness?", "man if stealing my stuff and it being ok to you that I LET THEM steal my stuff is ok with you. then YOU need to seek some psychiatric help.\n\nI also own guns. I also hope I NEVER EVER have to lift one in anger against ANYONE. but I hope I can if I have too.", "The goal of these is to cause temporary inconvenience to encourage the thief to dispose of the package, not destroy or deface personal property. Even if that property is owned by a thief.", "Just don't go to east downtown or to east van. So basically just don't be poor", "Now all you need is a sticker for normal packages, marked glitter bomb.", "Need to keep it 'PG' for that youtube algorithm. As soon as it crosses into malicious then he's no longer a 'playful trickster'.\n\nIt's not about sticking it to thieves, it's about finding a gimmick he can milk.", "Probably has COVID.", "Can’t you rig the pckages with a grenade? Solves the problem straight away.", "No, that's objectively false......", "More like reality. IE its usually using threats or force to obtain something you do not have a right too. otherwise 100% of government actions would be extortion (oh wait. most of them are extortion :-) hehehe", "That's one for his Hollywood lawyer friend of a friend to deal with. Clearly it was signed off on since it made the final cut though.", "He really needs to find a way to prevent them from putting the lid back on at all. And spray gorilla glue should be a part of it as well", "I think he does these videos after a new run of prototypes so he can share compiled results. So, it is a whole series, just not live.", "Honestly, the pawn shop owner is complicit and deserves everything coming his way, but nobody deserves to actually die for this.\n\nUnless they are stealing medicine. Then they can die.", "The question mark denotes that you don't know what the word extortion means", "I think he was talking about how strong a deterrent that is, but yes having a nuclear option in your back pocket isn’t something to look forward to using.", "Oh yeah?", "Glibber bumb, I had to force my phone to not auto correct that 4 times - no idea how you managed", "I'm a pretty skeptical SOB, but I think these people are real, and I think that's why we don't have more footage. He's probably doploying a ton of these things since it goes viral every year, and only showing a handful of thieves.", "He also worked on the Curiosity rover at Nasa.\n\nMark Rober built Mars Rover", "yeah it's amazing what happens when you look at the actual numbers instead of just taking at face value what dickheads on the internet or TV say lol", "no", "Lol, “wokeness”, gtfo.\n\nIt’s because the courts were jammed and they wanted to handle serious shit faster.", " I don't think thats as strong a defense as you think it is. First of all, people do illegal shit all the time.... and a lot of it ends up on YouTube without recourse. Secondly, I'm not so sure you could legally call it a booby trap as its not designed to harm/injure anyone and the dictionary definition specifically says the device must be designed to harm. Whether the legal definition is the same, as the dictionary definition for booby trap I don't know though.", "He was in it for the sweet sweet canvas.", "What's the shame on it? The content does not change either way, and i won't be surprised if he got his \"credit\" thru actual payment...", "> Not only do you lose your stuff, but you have to replace a window too.\n\nthis is how properly funded social services overall saves money and labor for the state. consider this they smashed 2 windows in a couple of minutes on the low end that is 400 bucks to replace it would have been much better to just hand them that money instead. now spill that out over a month and just handing them a welfare check is a bargain for the state.\n\nthat is just the window smashing costs what dose it cost to house the people getting caught? what dose it cost to hire and for the cops to catch them?\n\nnow there is always going to be a criminal element that will steal like this but it shouldn't be people just trying to survive.", "You think a significant amount of the homeless population takes the time to google which cities have the best shelters and services and decide to move around the country based on that information?", "why is that porch pirating thing so big in the US?", "It's not extortion, it's allowing someone who has already committed a crime choose how the information is shared. If he was demanding money that the thief didn't owe him then it would be extortion.", "Well said.", "oohh nice I love these, version 4........", "nimby shit. it is fully understandbale but also feels politically dishonest as fuck.\n\n\"i am leftist help the poor more immigrants... just not next to me.\"", "I'd much rather prefer my state to do something more than a fine if the theft is under the $950 threshold. I'm fed up with thieves and would much rather have the law actually punish them vs having an officer tell me it happens all the time and nothing will be done.", "To be fair, they prolly have less to move. /s", "I would be enraged if someone stole my shit but at the same time, but it just seems inconsistent that other forms of theft don't garner the same response. Boss withholds a paycheck because you clocked in on time but they say it was too early? Why not shoot them? Civil asset forfeiture? Just shoot the cops taking your stuff. Health insurance refuses to pay for treatment? Maybe just shoot up an entire office to be safe. \n\nYeah having stuff stolen fucking sucks but lethal force only ever seems to come up as a solution when it's having your car broken into. Rubs me the wrong way, I guess.", "Because society treats some people like trash and then wonders why they get desperate and focused on anything that might feed them for one more day.", "They fucked up by committing a crime, that part is the default. This is just settling it outside the court in an alternative way, they don't have to take the offer.", "these videos will never get old", "Because postal workers are too lazy to knock on the door and give you the package. They leave it on your doorstep.", "> If he was demanding money that the thief didn't owe him then it would be extortion.\n\nHe's demanding the thief allow their face to be shown, something normally you pay them to allow, so it's worth money. \n\nThese package thieves are pieces of shit and deserve far worse, but this is indeed blackmail.", "It’s very hard to steal a modern car without the keys.", "So it was staged, got it.", "It's a shame because if you are interested in engineering and how to tackle all the challenges involved in a project like this, you might never know about Sean's channel where he goes into more detail and has more videos and projects that you might find interesting.", "The difference is he isn't sending these out. He's leaving them on his personal property, and while he's clearly letting them get stolen, he's not advertising them or anything, and nothing about them is clearly intent on harming people.\n\nStill though, it's the US, I've heard of people getting sued cause a thief broke into their home and tripped.", "Will engineering solve the problems our politicians wont? YES!", "I must live in a pretty privileged place because I’ve never had a package stolen", ">One of the thieves freaks out as the glitter bomb starts counting down and swerves hitting a car (or somebody) and the YouTuber is going to share legal responsibility.\n\nWas my first thought when the thief opened the package in the car.", "If you ever need to decide if cops are overpaid... look how easy it was to find and track these criminals lmao, theyre not even trying.", "No he most certainly didn't.\nAnd if \"just google it\" is your answer when someone asks you for a source, that 100% means you don't have a source.", "100% bullshit dude. Stop believing in silly conspiracy theories. I know it's super hip on reddit to be a perpetual sceptic and call \"fake\" on everything, but it doesn't make you seem intelligent.", "most cars don't have easy to steal radios anymore and can't easily be started without the transponder in the key", "Because everyone using a phone to browse reddit has auto correct enabled, and everyone on a computer has an auto correct plugin installed. Right?", "Replace all 4 fart cannisters with 12ga buckshot shells. It would be the last year people steal packages.", "he cut the parts out that were provably false. The parts where he was caught red-handed with evidence he couldn't deny. It's rather naive to believe everything else is on the up and up. You shouldn't just accept that at face value.", "Do you want ants! Because that’s how you get ants!", "He actually admitted previously using fake actors in videos.\n\nThat has tainted perception of his subsequent videos.", "You clearly never had meth /s", "Do you have time for a conversation about our Lord and savior Jordan B Peterson? 😌", "Women, eh? 😏", "He's back! It's like Christmas came early.", "I see your case for using lethal force in all of the above cases.", "Why just not educate thieves not to steal?", "We live in the bay area and don't even go there anymore.", "Version 5.0 needs to do fart spray and glitter at the same time.", "Fiat Punto. Can't remember the year. Think it was a 2000 model.", "Postal workers don’t have time, blame the company, not the drivers who have 300+ packages to deliver in 6 hours.", "I like the payback aspect of this prank, but seeing all that glitter and microplastic getting sprayed literally everywhere in it’s range and knowing most if not all of it will probably not be recycled correctly by the people getting peppered with glitter, is making me cringe and instead I’m now wondering what the negative environmental impact of this prank might be. \n\n\nSorry, I just fucking hate glitter with a burning passion and I’m worried about the health of nature and the environment.", "Expanding foam you say...", "I've heard that's because the cops are racist /s", "In what universe do you live? Get off TV, man, talk to real people.", "If you legit are, it’s no joke here. Nothing left in your car. They don’t care if it’s an empty bag. It’s a sad reality here. Worst part is that sometimes they will smash random car windows (my street had 5 car windows broken into in a row 2 months ago).", "Speaking as someone who picked up bedbugs while traveling. Fuck the money. Its the sanity you never get back.", "Chrysler LeBaron early 90's thief just put his hand into rear door panel and peeled my car door open and unlocked all door and back of the car.", "Booby trap convictions usually quote \"unjustified use of force\". There is no force being used here. (IANAL, not sure how this works really)", "\"too lazy\" dude, lazy people dont do delivery work. Also, here (Germany) they too leave packages on the ground if the receiver gives the ok, somehow we dont have a porch piracy endemic. Is it all Junkies trying to finance their next shot? Or just assholes? I dont get the mindset of taking something right from their door, hell, i get nervous if i have a letter thats not for me in my inbox", "I'd prefer to just get the item replaced through insurance than end someone's life. Some people's circumstances aren't as fortunate as mine. They may turn things around, they may not. They have no chance if you shoot them in the back in order to keep your item that you value over human life that is replaceable on insurance and you will probably need to claim for anyway as it is now covered in blood and has a bullet hole in it.", "Monkey see, Monkey grab\n\n&#x200B;\n\nso funny to watch", "He’s done it a few times, last year he had a locking peg that stopped it and it seems the boxing gloves that launch the box up stay in place afterwards to keep the top up. I think people are able to brute force it if they try hard enough since the top is cardboard.", "He must have been affected by the great canvas shortage of 2018.", "I’m just wondering how the hell do people still fall for this despite the millions of views this thing gets.", "9gag would like to have a word with you. And a ton of youtubers do too.", "I would much rather see hi-ex being used but there's the issue of legality there unfortunately.", "You say “somehow worse” and then explain exactly why they’re worse.", "oh god yes. Tiny catapult with some sort of weaponized surströmming - just shotgun that shit all up the walls so it goes everywhere", "Significant? Where does that figure come from. Your extensive research done on reddit.", "damn they don't even knock?\n\nSince the pandemic it's becoming a little more common for postal workers here (UK) to ring the bell/knock and then just leave it out front but i've never had a case where they don't knock at all - how would you even know it's out there?", "Lol how much longer is he suppose to milk this.", "I think to be fair, he has a walk a fine line here between annoying the fuck out of the thieves, and not breaking laws himself. If he were to damage their property, there would be legal action that could be potentially taken. As dumb as that sounds. Like the video with the guy in the car to me highlighted this. Imagine that guy crashes, and hurts himself or others badly because of the glitter-bomb, there would likely be cause to blame Mark still. \n\nSo I bet he has to figure out how to do as much damage without really causing any.", "Again, no one comes with any sources whatsoever.", "I wonder how long until enough people start catching on that someone actually grabs one not to steal it but just so they can be in the youtube video...", "Well, in a way this is. That's the guy's point, they will \"think twice\" before stealing, which is a form of education.", "He has a lawyer, you aren't a lawyer. End of story.", "I mean ... if you think about it, lethal force in all those cases would reduce the number of people willing to do the wrong thing.", "Why?", "Does it take a decent dose of money though to prevent them wanting just that bit more, and disincentivise criminal behaviour?", "Legit question: what happens if the thief is so startled by the car horn or sickened by the fart spray that they crash into someone else and cause serious bodily harm or death to an innocent person? From a legal standpoint, who would be at fault?", "Yeah, I think a dash of pepper spray (nothing with strong ejection) would be more effective with the farts on top. You wouldn't want to touch that and if you do, all you can breathe is burning stinky shit.", "Wasn't that kinda fake? Like I remember some news that he hired actors for that and friends and most of those scenarios were arranged.", "i will never understand american postman style of just...putting packages the buyer ordered in front of your home, unsupervised. In my country postman would call you by phone and if you aren't available to pick it up directly then they will come back at a later date. No one can steal your packages that way, when they are safely stored in the post office.", "Inanimate objects are worth more than a life. Such an unbelievably American thing to say.", "I'd guess that's in part because more people are going out, and going out more often, which means more people are buying or bringing expensive items in their cars.", "Becky is not in control of other people. All Bob had to do was NOT eat other people's food.\n \nHe chose to eat the brownies, therefore he chose the path that led to his death. He chose to keep stealing people's food, and because of his choices he led people to retaliate against the thief. \nNote - I am NOT saying he deserved to die. Ever. I am saying his own choices led directly to his death, because Becky would not have made the laxative brownies if there was not a food thief. Therefore he is also directly responsible for Becky's choice, which totally absolves her (as well as she is not his doctor and therefore does not need to know what his medications are). \nBecky does not deserve any punishment in this scenario, whatsoever - even you or I would brag if we caught a criminal effectively. I would assume, as a decent person, that Becky would be devastated at being involved in someone's death, and the emotional trauma is a pretty serious punishment for a decent person.\n\nThe scenario with the firefighter/arrow is also much more extreme and a valid one. It comes down to scare/injure vs kill. \nA booby trap that is intended to kill is obviously a bit extreme. Laxatives are obviously not intended to kill, just to scare / temporarily disable / discourage so that the person hopefully rethinks their actions. This is extremely reasonable.", "Wow, took a whole 2 seconds of googling\n\nhttps://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/glitter-bomb-video-was-partially-faked-former-nasa-engineer-confirms.html\n\n> Rober said he removed a minute and a half of the footage from the original video after learning that some of the “thieves” were actually acquaintances of the person he asked to help plant the packages on doorsteps. Rober said he agreed to compensate the person, who was a friend of a friend, based on the number of packages that were successfully recovered. The YouTuber later learned his helper recruited two people to collect the packages on tape. Three apparently real reactions remain in the video, Rober said.\n\nRegarding he knew it or not is moot, it still creates an air of disbelief.", "> they have absolutely ruined it.\n\nwho is 'they'?", "Not in Texas!", "Surely the cunt who nicked it. It never happens if they keep their fucky fingers to themselves.", "I am sure Mark would not sleep well if that happened, but it would not be in jail.", "extremely elaborate", "Such friendly people.", "What a disgusting thing to say. Just because the law permits you to shoot a fleeing thief doesn’t mean you should.", "Agreed.", "Insurance has a deductible, and too many claims means your rate goes up. Your car window gets smashed you're out $500 (pretty standard for decent insurance) even if they don't take anything. How much time that means depends on your job, but at $15/hr that's 33 hours of work that you have to do to make up for something that wasn't your fault, plus the loss of whatever your would have spent that money on otherwise. \n\nIf someone was stealing nearly a week of my life I'd probably be pissed enough to use deadly force. Time is money, which means money is time. Stuff doesn't usually matter that much (irreplaceable objects like family heirlooms aside), but the time I spent to earn the money to buy it does.", "Still fake I guess?", "> He could clean up San Fransisco with those things\n\nThat would require a city and state government that was actually interested in facilitating prosecution and imprisonment of the people once caught. People don't give a shit about minor crimes, even if they do get caught they won't face any consequences that matter to them.", "Literally, no? One is an anecdote, the other is a system.", "Interesting from a legal standpoint the guy who opened it while driving a car. So what would happen if he crashed and killed himself and/or someone else, could Mark Rober be held responsible?", "I’m from the Bay Area, last place I want to go is San Francisco. Too many hills to drive on (bad for manual cars), dirty city, smelly, hard to find parking, too many break ins, hard to drive around, etc. Used to love SF when I was a kid but now it’s too expensive and the city got worse. Fuck San Francisco. There are lots of better other Bay Area cities to visit.", "This is an annual series around Christmas every year, he's busy with other projects the rest of the year. He does develop a new and improved model each year, deploy it, and compile results into a single video but it's a once a year thing.", "In SF it's not random homeless people, it's organized gangs in BMWs and Audis. I know because this happened to me a few weeks ago :( The solution is proper deterrence. A few $100 a week in social security isn't going to do anything.", "Same here. Fuck San Francisco.", "Why? California's a great place to live in your car. [There's even programs explicitly supporting being homeless with vehicles](https://www.safeparkingla.org/), plenty of other resources for the homeless, and generally mild weather year round. Living in actual housing is of course far better, but if I had to live in a car I can't think of anywhere in the US I'd rather be.", "Literally empty the glove box and leave it open. Remove any hatchback cover. Park on off-streets in nice neighborhoods. I had this happen a few weeks ago...", "I do envy that about Texas. That’s the only thing though. And maybe the bbq.", "They should put real items in cars, like a wrapped gift. But have apple airtags hidden inside of them . If enough of them were stolen they could trace it easily", "Yep. Our car was broken into a few weeks ago with \\~$2000 of stuff stolen.. police didn't car. They told us to call a few numbers. That was it. Also theft was probably down early 2021 due to Covid but has picked up significantly since tourists (like myself) have come back.", "Where I live I’ve heard of peoples’ windows getting smashed for 75 cents in the cup holder...", "> booby trap devices (which are a grey area at best and quite illegal the rest of the time)\n\nNot typically; they're typically only illegal when they use force in a way that would require a human's judgement on normally, i.e. a tripwire attached to a shotgun (deadly force, not legal unless a person is deciding to use it). A lawyer could argue that the glitter and fart spray constitutes some form of assault/battery (meaning the same thing, different states use assault to mean different things - in this case they both mean touching/violence), but it'd be damn hard to win, especially when it only happened as a direct result of their client's criminal activity. You'd have to prove harm caused by the device, and good luck convincing a judge or jury that glitter, stinky odors, noise, and lights caused harm.", "> His name is pronounced like \"robe\"\n\nInteresting, so it's actually Robe Rober?", "Maybe don't open packages while driving a vehicle. It's a bad idea even if it's actually yours, doubly so if you've just stolen it.", "Nah, I choose to not be so painfully cynical about inconsequential things. Porch pirates are a serious problem in most of the US, it's not exactly hard to get stuff stolen if you leave it there all day. I have no more reason to believe this is faked than the moon landing.\n\nRober's reputation is largely because he seems like such an open and honest, likable guy - lying about something like this would seriously harm his reputation, viewership, and credibility, I'm very skeptical that he would deliberately mislead with any of his videos, especially with how he edited the original video to remove the suspect footage and clearly explained why he did so. Is my skepticism proof of his truthfulness? No, but but assuming that anyone who you can't prove is truthful is lying is a miserably cynical way to live.\n\n> Note about 2 missing the reactions in the video (I posted this on all my social channels immediately after it happened)- I was presented with information that caused me to doubt the veracity of 2 of the 5 reactions in the video. These were reactions that were captured during a two week period while the device was at house 2 hours away from where I live. I put a feeler out for people willing to put a package on their porch and this person (who is a friend of a friend) volunteered to help. To compensate them for their time and willingness to risk putting a package on their porch I offered financial compensation for any successful recoveries of the package. It appears (and I've since confirmed) in these two cases, the “thieves\" were actually acquaintances of the person helping me. From the footage I received from the phones which intentionally only record at specific times, this wasn’t clear to me. I have since removed those reactions from the original video (originally 6:26-7:59). I’m really sorry about this. Ultimately, I am responsible for the content that goes on my channel and I should have done more here. I can vouch for that the reactions were genuine when the package was taken from my house. Having said that, I know my credibility is damaged but I encourage you to look at the types of videos I’ve been making for the past 7 years. This is my first ever video with some kind of “prank\" and like I mentioned in the video, it’s pretty removed from my comfort zone and I should have done more. I’m especially gutted because so much thought, time, money and effort went into building the device and I hope this doesn’t just taint the entire effort as “fake\". It genuinely works (like all the other things I’ve built on my channel) and we’ve made all the code and build info public. Again, I’m sorry for putting something up on my channel that was misleading. That is totally on me and I will take all necessary steps to make sure it won’t happen again.", "they don't look cheap to produce. Has he ever mentioned how much one of those things cost?", "Just allow tax breaks for billion dollar companies so the money flows down to them, it’s easy", "Wish the box had tear gas instead of fart spray\n\nFuckin thieves.", "Instead of glitter, a bunch of spiders", "Is choosing the right word here? Wouldn't \"are being forced to\" more accurate? Or is there a new trend I have not heard of?", "5.0 should be an IED", "As someone from the UK, I've commented on this before to colleagues. Amazon sent a few messages about \"for your convenience and safety we are doing contactless deliveries\" which I've felt as a way for them to slowly normalise just leaving deliveries on the doorstep US style.\n\nNow restrictions were being lifted, they are still using the contactless delivery excuses as a way to just turn up, drop the parcel ring/knock then run off. Amazon are happier this way as they don't waste a minute or two waiting for someone to answer, or then having to go find a neighbour who will take the parcel. Less waiting = more parcels per driver = less time to deliver the load = less wages.\n\nIt won't be long (a year or two) until we end up having the same issues here in the UK.", "So did they press charges on the others?", "Being a cunt pays too well I guess", "Too lazy? Bro postal workers are done with their route before you're even home home from your 9-5.\n\nWhat does it matter if they knock? I'm not even home anyways", "Robber Marker - Mark Rober", "??? I’ve been planning on retiring off my karma. Are you saying it’s useless?", "The reactions of most of these people towards the package is pretty telling, and drug down my IQ by a few points just by watching them drooling dumbfoundedly.", "lol why is it always a fat wife/girlfriend", "> Note about 2 missing the reactions in the video (I posted this on all my social channels immediately after it happened)- I was presented with information that caused me to doubt the veracity of 2 of the 5 reactions in the video. These were reactions that were captured during a two week period while the device was at house 2 hours away from where I live. I put a feeler out for people willing to put a package on their porch and this person (who is a friend of a friend) volunteered to help. To compensate them for their time and willingness to risk putting a package on their porch I offered financial compensation for any successful recoveries of the package. It appears (and I've since confirmed) in these two cases, the “thieves\" were actually acquaintances of the person helping me. From the footage I received from the phones which intentionally only record at specific times, this wasn’t clear to me. I have since removed those reactions from the original video (originally 6:26-7:59). I’m really sorry about this. Ultimately, I am responsible for the content that goes on my channel and I should have done more here. I can vouch for that the reactions were genuine when the package was taken from my house. Having said that, I know my credibility is damaged but I encourage you to look at the types of videos I’ve been making for the past 7 years. This is my first ever video with some kind of “prank\" and like I mentioned in the video, it’s pretty removed from my comfort zone and I should have done more. I’m especially gutted because so much thought, time, money and effort went into building the device and I hope this doesn’t just taint the entire effort as “fake\". It genuinely works (like all the other things I’ve built on my channel) and we’ve made all the code and build info public. Again, I’m sorry for putting something up on my channel that was misleading. That is totally on me and I will take all necessary steps to make sure it won’t happen again.\n\n[From the description of the v.1 video on YT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxhDk-hwuo). He didn't say he faked it, he said that the people in the video weren't genuine thieves but he wasn't aware of it when he created the video. Personally the failure was on the part of the people who abused his trust for financial gain and misled him into unknowingly putting out a video with staged content portrayed as genuine; in my view Mark took on an unnecessary share of the blame for this mistake, but his willingness to do so makes him more trustworthy, and nothing he's done since has caused me to doubt that.", "On the other hand if you don't have anything in the trunk of an estate or hatchback, leave that area uncovered.", "I think the idea is stealing there has real consequences and not a slap on the wrist or nothing at all.", "Once had my car broken into and they took literally nothing. Just cost me $300 to replace the window.", "LOL That link directly contradicts what you stated earlier. He didn't use them someone else did.", "Lots of places are like that anywhere though, even in Maine there's signs in lots but I can't recall anyone I know ever having a car broken into or even seeing a broken side window. I'm sure it happens, but like most non-drug related crime in Maine it's super rare.", "i am sorry.\n\ni would be furious.", "Seems this model is much less effective at preventing the cover from being put back on.", "I am looking forward to seeing the results of his working directly with the police.", "Legit question. What are the legalities if one of those bombs go off in the thiefs cars while they are driving and it causes them to crash and die? Would Mark be accountable?", "i think the masks, running away, fear and general sneakiness gives away the fact that the thieves have already been educated that stealing is wrong and yet do it anyway for selfish reasons.", "It reminds me of the big prank channels from a few years back that were all caught using actors, mostly because some pranks were too dangerous to try on real people. Even in this video you can see a thief driving erratically when the glitter bomb goes off. I can't imagine a big Youtuber risking the type of liability/PR disaster caused by a crash.", "I could accept he's lying, if given substantial proof of such\n\nBut nobody seems to be giving me such proof. Just vague \"it's fake bro\" on reddit so", "Yeah I mean what if the brownies weren’t rigged and he ate something that disagreed with his meds causing the same result? And anyway it’s not like she used actual poison in the brownies, they should be considered safe to eat.", "Well there's a pawn shop that needs shut down at least, $400 no questions asked?", "[I mean yeah.](https://youtu.be/6EHPt8eoSJI)\n\nIt's well known that other states will legitimately buy bus tickets to the destination of their choice and give unhoused people chunks of money to go elsewhere.\n\nIt's quite naive to assume that people who are in situations such that they don't have a permanent housing solution don't have access to the internet. Phones and a plan are pennies on the dollar for those that need them, especially in comparison to what goes into getting a house or even rent. \n\nYou need stable employment, and quite often history of employment to even get your rental application looked at. You often need proof of residency to get a job and you need a job to get a house.\n\nThat last part is certainly an oversimplification, but homeless doesn't automatically mean no iPhone.", "https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/unabomber", "next one, we'll electrocuted the top after it was opened so it's would shock them", "Somebody in vancouver was talking about how they had to resort to this. Instead they found out a bum slept in their car and took a piss in it before they left.", "Well you get my point dude could have sold it or gifted it to someone", "Can't do a whole lot with a car radio these days, all integrated.\n\nThe valuable stuff worth stealing in a car are phones, computers, wallets etc.", "I lived in a pretty borderline hood for a bit and never locked my car because I never left anything in it worth near the cost of a broken window or mangled lock. Car was rummaged thru, some change taken, glove box left open several times, but never had damage so it was just the cost of living in the hood.", "well now let's think about this.\n\njust because a homepod is sitting on someone's porch doesn't mean ANYONE is obligated to take it. can we agree on this? \n\nif so, the whole of your post means bupkus - DON'T BE A THIEF. anything that happens after those jerks take something from someone else's property that doesn't belong to them is under THAT THIEF'S responsibility, not anybody else's.", "He didn't know at time of upload and removed those two clips immediately from the first video", "We don't have a porch pirate epidemic in the USA. Just remember how big we are. 100 million households getting packages, you are going to get some stolen. Mark has to leave packages on a porch without packaging for days and days before they are stolen (San Francisco being an exception). Put them in a brown box and they are usually fine.", "It’s turned downhill pretty fast. Theft is fucking crazy and the police seem to be more worried about cars being “too loud” or lightly modified. I say too loud in quotes because they target stock oem cars and hit them with tickets. Source: I’m one of the people with a stock car that got harassed & ticketed and lost in court", "I think a simple design change would be spring-loaded arms on all sides that fwip out once the top launches off. Maybe find a way to make the arms only fold back if you dismantle it.", "Some are crackheads that want shit to sell quickly.\n\nI found an old guy's hand-written password notebook in my front lawn that had been ditched from a car break in. A smart thief could have absolutely drained this guy with identity theft. Bank accounts, retirement accounts, SSA, tons of retail logins, and others. I contacted him through email and returned it.", "That’s uh.. that’s just how it works?", "You said he admitted to using fake actors\n\nNo he didn't. In the first video he learned that two reactions were staged and promptly removed them\n\nHe has done several more of these since then and there has been exactly zero evidence of anything being fake", "Being aware of what's happening in the world (woke) and not collecting enough tax to police / prosocute effectively are quite different things", "Then don’t steal packages that contain unknown things?", "One of my roommates specifically leaves his doors unlocked so that thieves can just get in without breaking the windows since he doesn't ever have anything valuable in the car.\n\nOne night someone broke into several cars by smashing their windows...including his. >.<", "Don’t open things while driving \n\nDon’t open unknown things while driving\n\nDon’t steal shit", "No. In the first version some friends of one of the volunteers he had put the box on their porch decided to stage their own reaction (so they could be in the Video I guess?)\n\nHe didn't know when he uploaded and removed the clips from the video when he found out\n\nAs far as I know that's the only thing that happened.", "Because crimes are statistically committed more often by people of color, and one way of reducing the arrest/incarceration rate of people of color is to reduce sentencing/criminality of the sorts of offenses they're currently being convicted of. Of course this makes no effort to correct the socioeconomic causes of said criminality, namely the fact that most children of color are raised in an environment of poverty, receive poor educations with limited postsecondary opportunity, and often suffer from broken or otherwise negative home lives during childhood.\n\nNote: my comments on crime rates being higher for people of color are [backed by FBI statistics](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-43) (black people make up 12.4% of the US population, but black people made up 26.6% of arrests in 2020), but race is not the cause of this as I've seen racist idiots argue or imply in the past. Due to historical racism and lack of development the socioeconomic conditions that result in higher crime rates exist more frequently in places with higher minority populations.", "how about just a box filled with bees wasps spiders or roaches? or just fucking straight up poison.", "This is spot on, most of the drivers do seem to wait within sight of the door though but I've had a few that have left before I've even opened the door, you just see the van/car leaving.\n\nI get it - they're probably 'delivering' far more parcels but it will encourage theft if it goes on, stuff is often just sitting on doorsteps now.", "San Fran & Vancouver seem to be running parallel in crime & unaffordability right now", "You're implying he had friends and relatives steal the packages, which is just blatantly not in line with your source. In a single case he had the package situated at a friend of a friend's (so not a friend or relative of the YouTuber either) house and then a friend of the person where the package was situated went to pick up the package as the Youtuber offered financial compensation for the risk if it did get stolen.\n\nSo it's like 3 degrees away from him according to his own statement, not just the one as you are implying. Whether or not the video is fake can be discussed, but your \"Source\" does not corroborate what you're saying whatsoever.", "yeah, thinking about this its the typical \"problem in the limelight\" situation, for every stolen package there will be thousands upon thousands that are not stolen, but nobody talks about these.", "Never was. Except the once in the first version but that's cause friends of one of the volunteers he had putting these on their porch decided to open it themselves (to be in the vid I guess?) but he didn't know that and removed the clips immediately so", "Unless you're trying to make a buzzfeed list", "No. In the first version some friends of one of the volunteers he had put the box on their porch decided to stage their own reaction (so they could be in the Video I guess?)\n\nHe didn't know when he uploaded and removed the clips from the video when he found out\n\nAs far as I know that's the only thing that happened.", "It’s because the law decides they crimes aren’t big enough to actually give them real consequences", "Anthrax", "Why are you acting like that's outrageous to be able to attack a burglar?", "He says he's not using microplastic based glitter, though apparently even this \"biodegradable\" stuff isn't that great", "A friend of mine once told me that while many dudes like their women to have some curves, the upper limit for black men is way higher than the rest of the population.\n\nI know one black guy who's a very good looking guy and built like an ox while somehow maintaining a very low body fat percentages. His wife, on the other hand, is extremely obese. And it's not like she got that way after they started going out. She was like that from when their first date.", ">Also, here (Germany) they too leave packages on the ground if the receiver gives the ok, somehow we dont have a porch piracy endemic\n\nIts catching on here too. Ive had stuff stolen. Specifically have told DHL, Amazon and everyone to not drop packages in the hallway of my building, there is also a huge sign not to do it, they still do it.", "I don’t think he left, I think his project/contract finished then his interests changed", "I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he did previous years\n\nI think in a comment he said he'd wanted the arms on this one to lock in the extended position but didn't for some reason", "Haha. \n\nNo it is not.\n\nEDIT: Downvote me all you want, it's wrong. It's incredibly easy to steal most modern push start vehicles with an OBD override.\n\nSource: Lost many cars to this recently, lol.", "That's just cause & effect at work.", "Physical appearance is apparently the only thing to consider when entering relationships. Although she did just steal a package so that’s some negative points", "He's already walking a thin line of legal liability", "Hmmm, I do wonder what would have happened if the guy driving crashed his car. Someone honked him, so it clearly impacted his driving. Glitter could have got in his eyes.\n\nA bit sketchy.", "Or maybe... Hear me out... If the police aren't willing to arrest/investigate because the DA is openly unwilling to prosecute regular thieves, and therefore store owners/security don't even bother stopping them.... Then crime rates going down doesn't mean a fucking thing....", "Most of these homes probably have roaches anyway", "The site spell checks you on all platforms, but I'm pretty sure buddy's just havin fun with it so relax", "Get out of here with your rational thinking!! This is social media, we want hashtags and Instagram infographics, not nuanced explanations of social problems!!", "This is why I have the post office hold my packages for delivery. Much safer to pick up my packages from the post office than to have them stolen from my doorstep.", "Did the Unabomber target package thieves? If so he was basically batman", "This logic only works to a certain scale and then it all falls apart.\n\nAnd the owners of America know that there will be way too many people to support once they've automated all the jobs", "they only drop stuff at my place when i am at home to pick it up immediatly and they made sure i saw it dropped off, when im out they take it with them again. Having a Packstation is imo a godsend for me as a shift worker", "I don't think it really pays too well. None of the people in Mark's video looked like they were living the high life.", "Oh! That must be why I thought of it! I guess this one was too complicated? Not enough room?", "The fart canisters are so underwhelming. Everyone just comments it smells like shit. \nYou need a function so it dumps a vial of vile smelling stuff onto car seat or living room wherever so they are stuck with it. \nWe need to bottle the smell of that plant that smells like a rotting corpse.", "Right? If you want to keep it safe make it so it pours (at a fast speed) out of the box and onto the floor.", "Back in 2011 I had a $5000 Mac Pro tower shipped in its original box left at my door. They just slapped a shipping label on it and sent it out. Lots of times companies still send stuff in their original boxes, it’s not uncommon.", "how many people live in your country, 5? the situation you describe would be impossible in the united states, lmao", "Police don't arrest/investigate because the DA is openly unwilling to \"waste resources\" prosecuting regular thieves. You can have your windows smashed and $2k of stuff stolen and the police will shrug their shoulders, unwilling to come out and create a report. Wow, magically \"crime rates are going down.\" \n\nPeople like /u/Troggie42 who cite \"crime rates going down\" without taking this into consideration have no business discussing this issue.", "Not even close to correct.\n\n\n>Crime is way too high, better legalize crime!", "The distracted driver still. You don't blame the radio themself or the manufacturer for someone being distracted and turning it up.", "Version 5.0 should release little fart-scented silly string spraying mini drones that they have to chase down.", "I loved that about Japan when I lived there. Missed your package? Call up & if it's early, get same day re-delivery for FREE!", "maybe they started dating in high school and she was a fox, he was a track star\n\nthey had a kid or three and she put on some pounds\n\nstop judging, Judgy McJudgerson, I'm sure you're no prize", "He has designed the product so it will not likely hurt anyone. The fact that the guy opened it in the car while driving means they would be the one responsible for hurting anyone. The same way if the guy used his phone while driving would hurt someone but the phone maker shouldn't be responsible because it could cause damage.", "It is indeed the thief's responsibility, but we're still talking about the risk of being stressed out while operating a vehicle. An accident can result in someone elses death, who's responsible about it, doesn't really matter to the dead person or his/her family.\n\nAnd sure, it's hypothetical, but still a risk for something that is a, albeit fun and elaborate, prank.", "I think his point was the burglar is not in your house posing an imminent threat, so using lethal force seems way heavy handed.", "Maybe it was the RIAA stealing its songs back.", "Hasn't there been huge waves of organized looting like every day?", "I love this guy but I've always wanted to be a lot more sinister with these and make it a ricin/anthrax eugenics program.", "This year felt a little less... good. It seems like they were able to re-cover the box in some cases where (last year?) He created a living mechanism to help prevent that. The upgrades were less impressive than I had hoped too, but the triple glitter was clever. Did any of the thieves even really get the box top launch?", ">the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.\n\nWhile not legally extortion in the states (I'm assuming from the previous posts) it is asking them to show their face under the threat of legal action. From an ethical and even an just objective point of view I'm inclined to agree with you.", "Even when these thieves are caught they aren’t really punished - that’s why it happens so frequently", "If that happened package carriers wouldn't have time to deliver 1/10th of their packages in a route", "So these are all still fake, right?\n\nSeems so weird to me that he admitted they were fake but then kept making them anyway and nobody cared", "How does he get away with this?\n\n(Assuming most of this is legit, not fake footage)\n\nHow does he not violate wiretapping (recording without permission) laws?\n\nWhat if one of those fools got into a car accident while fucking around with a farty glittering package? \n\nI'm just concerned about his liability here. I like his content, last thing I want to see is him get in legal trouble.", "As if that’s not a thing in every other American city too. You ever had something stolen in Cleveland? In Dallas? Same thing.", "Do you associate every countdown timer with a ticking time bomb?", "> i will never understand american postman style\n\nThe simple explanation to most people who say things like this is - It's unlikely you live on a landmass as massive as the United States with hundreds of millions of fellow countrymen. \n\nIn the case of package delivery, there are 4 million packages delivered per day in the US. 3 billion packages shipped between Thanksgiving and Christmas 2020. Up nearly 1 billion from just 1 year prior. We hardly have the logistics/manpower to stay on top of this as it is. There is absolutely no universe where US couriers can stop to call every single recipient that doesn't answer the door.", "At around 9:20 in the video you can hear a car honk which I would assume was caused by the thief's poor driving due to being distracted with the glitter bomb. In a worst case scenario, would Mark be liable here if the distracted thief caused an accident/death due to being distracted by the glitter bomb?", "If you beleive this you are the most naive person on the planet. Also if you look up, the word \"gullible\" is written on the ceiling above you", "i just wanted to make sure you knew - you came off like a complete tosser and did not win the internet argument", "Exactly this. Just think about all the potential law suits. \n\nSome guy buys this, puts it on his porch and then decides to track down and confront the thief and gets killed or injured?\n\nSomeone steals this off your porch, gets glitter bombed and angrily comes back to your house and shoots you?\n\nThink the ‘McDonald’s hot coffee’ lawsuit. The ruling said McDonald’s could have reasonably foreseen a boiling cup of hot water spilling on a little old lady. \n\nAnd I’m sure the lawsuits around this would say that Mark Rober could have reasonably foreseen these types of incidents taking place. \n\nWhether or not he should be held account to the actions of buyers and third parties is a good question, but it is not worth the risk.", "Fox piss is the correct replacement, that shit will make you move house.", "Dont take people's shit and you have absolutely nothing to worry about", "They assume some are minors and some are not", "I traded hours of my life for that inanimate object. Yes it is absolutely worth more", "goddamn how many morons came into this thread spewing half stories they've heard and attempted to pass them off as complete truths?! then get all butthurt and call people 'fanbois' for being able to read and consume facts! just admit you were wrong, idiots!", "Because not enough cunts get shot", "Because they leave stuff by the door. If you provide opportunity, people will eventually take it.", "I think we need an actual lawyer to comment on this:\n\n>It is not all threats-for example, threatening to file suit unless someone pays you money owed is not extortion.\n\nIn the case of owed money there is a cut and dry correlation between the threat corresponding to the resolution.\n\nThe more reasonable resolution in this case being along the lines of: Return what you stole and pay damages.\n\nThe idea of 'let me parade you as a criminal on a viral internet video or we get law enforcement involved' is starting to seem a touch unbelievable. Which to be honest for these particular videos is par for the course.", "Do your own research", ">Not only do you lose your stuff, but you have to replace a window too.\n\nThat's the real salt in the wound. I remember when I had my car broken into and my CD player got stolen while I was at work. It wouldn't have been that bad if my window wasn't smashed but it happened in the winter in Canada while I was living in the suburbs and had a 35km drive home with 20 of that being on the highway. That distance really sucks when you're missing a window and the air temp is -20°", "I really don't understand where you come up with this stuff.\n\nIf Loss Prevention in Walmart Dallas stops someone for stealing $800 of Merchandise police will be there and booking the suspects for a felony. Police will not even respond in SF.\n\nIf you have $2k of stuff stolen out of your car in Dallas, you can at least get a police report. I'm not saying they will send out a CSI unit and dust for fingerprints, but the crime will be logged and reported in statistics.\n\nNeither of these are true in SF. Crime statistics are not accurately reflecting the level of crime because of the staggering amount of crime that is being ignored at the direction of the DA, and to reference these statistics as an indication that crime itself is going down is incredibly ignorant.\n\nI'm not some conservative shitting on the libtards. I love California. But you are fucking delusional.", "Fortunately when people get in car crashes, they never harm anyone else on the roads. They never run into other cars or people. Nope. They simply crash and only the individuals in the vehicle that crashed are harmed. We never hear about how people are victims of reckless or distracted drivers. Who cares about innocent victims being killed by drivers who veered off the road because they opened a glitter bomb package. At least the robbers got what they deserved. Those innocent people should have known better than to be on the road around a thief.", "That's just how you get a visit from Dirty Mike and the Boys.", "It's literally the opposite of blackmail, because they aren't threatening to reveal anything publicly, they're getting permission to show it publicly. If this was blackmail it would look like: \"sign this allowing us to reveal your face or we will reveal your face\". Instead, they're offering them the chance for this to not be publicly shared, but if they don't want to then they will go to the police (something you have a right to when someone steals from you.)\n\nYou can debate whether this is ethical or not. (It most definitely is, why do you think most people allow it? Because public humiliation > being sentenced for a crime. Id say the most unethical part about it is letting the criminals go free with just a bit of glitter)", "[There's been at least one arrest coming from these devices in different circumstances](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKW58MS12g), and additional investigations using evidence in part gathered by the glitter bombs were ongoing (probably still are, knowing the pace US federal agencies operate at). Is it helping with porch pirates? It's not getting them arrested, but he did note at the end of this year's video that they were stolen at a much lower rate (which is correlation, not causation, but it doesn't rule out causation either). The lack of arrests for porch piracy is because the police can't or won't do anything about it, not a failure on the part of the devices or videos.", "I blame the current modern public school system for killing one's ability to use or understand critical thinking.", "Thanks for asking the question despite all the downvotes. I'm honestly not convinced it is as clear cut as the responders are making it out to be either.", "More like minimum wage doesn't pay enough to afford a shitty apartment rent on your own, so they turn to crime. \n\n\nThis isn't justification, but the blame is not on postal workers.", "The proximate cause would be distraction caused by the driver choosing to open a package while operating a vehicle. He chose to take that action, it's 100% on him; the fact that he didn't know what was in the package was because it was stolen, that doesn't shift the blame away from the driver choosing to distract himself. It's no different from opening a package you'd just bought legitimately while driving.", "That comment with that username is a whole ass yikes dude.", "Yet another version of \"Just google it\" duh.", "Yes, if you take the spin as objective facts which they likely aren't :p. Hence why I mentionned the spin.\n\nFor instance: \"I was presented with information that made me doubt the veracity of X...\" A nice way to say he got called out on it.\n\nThe facts are, he got called out then made a statement. He wasn't proactive about it even though, when it comes to filming people in the middle of breaking the law, you better be sure you're not defaming someone. There is a high level of due diligence required, that should have been done before posting the vid.\n\nPersonally, I don't believe that you wouldn't be tempted to \"speed things up\" when waiting for lots of people to take the bait repeatedly. Likewise, it's much less risky from a legal standpoint to prank \"thieves\" that are in on it.", "lmao at your naivete and ignorance", "Depends widely on the model. Some you can buy a magic dongle that plugs in and can reflash some controller somewhere and the car will start and drive with no key.\n\n\nOther models it requires £2000 of replacement computers and hard to get dealer software to make a car go without an original key.", "You can sue for anything. I can sue you for kicking my cat, despite the fact that I don't have a cat and you and I have likely never been in the same place at the same time. The important question is can you win, and the answer for questions like this is usually \"not likely\". A lawyer can make the argument, but if the events leading to harm only took place because you were being a piece of shit the odds of winning are very low assuming a competent legal defense is mounted. In the case of a crash while opening the stolen package I'd argue that the driver neglected his duty to maintain control of the vehicle by choosing to distract himself with opening a package; the fact that the package was stolen is immaterial, the fact that he was paying attention to the package instead of the road is. You can't say \"I stole a package and opened it while driving and crashed, the guy who I stole it from should be held responsible for the crash\" and be taken seriously by a reasonable person.", "Crime rates are decreasing nationwide and have been for years and years, it ain't just San Fransisco, but go on, spread your bullshit, I won't stop you", "I love these. Fuck those people.", "we get it you care a lot about Louis Vuitton", "Methinks that gets into the territory of booby trapping which would be very illegal.", "it's not like your postman is delivering to you and to some dude on the opposite end of the country lmao, most countries just hire a reasonable amount of employees per capita, without taking into account 3rd party logistics (which are fairly prevalent here, granted not to the degree of the US) my country's postal service has 4 time the amount of employees per 100.000 than the US, hence the reason why our deliveries aren't just tossed somewhere in the open for thieves to steal and we get things like missed deliveries and notifications. This is also while still achieving a proportionally lower strain on our economy, worse geography in most areas and with said postal service being considered mediocre at best in Europe if not straight up bad. The size of the US has nothing to do with greed and mismanagement.", "that if some people just starts to do this, but with explosives? just for the fun", "I can't get over how many are wearing face masks in their own homes.\n\nIs this common in the US? Pretty sure it'd be unheard of in the UK.", "I'd be happier if these were lethal instead. How many news reports of porch thieves dying would it take for the rest of them to think twice?", "Controversial opinion incoming...\n\nMark Rober is MASSIVELY overrated. \n\nNow, I'm not saying he's not a nice guy or a good engineer, but the number of videos that I've seen of his where someone else actually does the work or builds the thing only to have Mark \"IWORKEDATNASA\" Rober step in and take the credit is astounding. \n\nIMO, he needs to dial back the hype, quit spending 3/4 of his videos pimping his merch and \"training courses\" and just go back to the basics of science and education.", "It's a shit hole. Ran into the ground by extreme left policies, straight up.", "Stereotypes exist for a reason.", "So, not at all like San Francisco.", "I know some people who live in an area where its common so the main thing is people just leave nothing in their car and also leave them unlocked a lot of times so that if someone does want to rifle through at least a window won't be broken.", "That would be even more reason why saying \"crime rates in SF are going down despite the legislation and DA that won't prosecute thieves, all is fine!\" is not a reliable metric for what's actually going on.....\n\nCritical thinking not your strong suit, eh?", "They taking one for the team", "What the fuck is wrong with the lot of you? Instead of having a decent society you fucking christans get hard watching a clown torture poor people", "Maybe the lid itself could do something to prevent being put back on. Like a balloon deploys or something. An air bag!", "I’d be worried about setting that precedent. If I became a porch pirate, I could end up in a Mark Rober video? Cool! Maybe he’ll let me in on an elephant toothpaste video!", "They can do that whether or not your windows are shut though. And these are mostly drug addicts looking to steal and pawn something for a fraction of its value. They’re not sophisticated enough to bypass the immobiliser.", "Germany doesn't have enough \"diversity\" yet... You'll get there.", "Just stay in California and don't ruin the rest of the country, PLEASE.", "That's a deterrent. When people refuse to be civil themselves, sometimes it takes a bit of force", "exactly this.", "That'd make a bomb. Fine powder floating in air is explosivem", "Ahmaud Arbery would disagree with you.", "Fair enough, I can see why you stand where you stand. I personally think it's real mostly because I don't have real reason to believe otherwise, but then again, I am usually not the first to call fake on anything.", "Get your ass to Mars.", "Really just another plane of existence that we can only dream of reaching", "Fewer.", "oh i did. he made a completely different comment and edited it. contradicting himself", "Arbery was killed by racist rednecks. That's irrelevant here", "Oh, I didn’t know that. Kind of skimmed through the video.\n\n\nAlthough that still kinda proves my point.", "It's a social problem. Poverty and lack of education.", "Obviously the postman isn't going from one coast to the other, but the sheer size of some areas of the US and how spread out things are make it very different than smaller European countries. \n\nBut of course, you have it all figured out. Everything scales perfectly when you're dealing with anywhere from 5 to 10x or more the population and much larger land mass. So by your math, if we have 5x the population and 1/4 the workforce, we just need to increase our budget by how much and we can have a perfect system? Even though USPS is already bleeding billions annually. Nevermind labor shortages and every other challenge the US faces in keeping up with an increase of 1 billion packages per holiday season each year.\n\nAlso, are citizens of your country nearly as wealthy and shipping/receiving anywhere near the same amount of packages per capita? [Why don't you have a look and tell me?](https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/18396.jpeg) Do we get 5x more? 10x? So if we are going to match employees per 100,000 along with keeping it proportional to the amount of packages... We might need like... 20x the employees we have now? 40x? 🤦🏽‍♂️\n\nTL;DR - You have an absurdly low resolution analysis of an incredibly complicated problem.", "Ah yes, that was why Bethesda had to give out nylon bags.", "Hmm good point. Flame throwers next", "It's not as big of a problem as these videos make it out to be. In certain areas it might be worse than others but overall it's likely very low. What we would need is data from USPS, UPS, FedEx, and most major retailers to figure out how bad it really is.", "The u/peefarts edition.", "that glitter is never coming out of that carpet or car", "The \"commercial\" was filmed using robots made by the company I work for, there's a behind the scenes video from Bubba's LA (the studio they filmed the cinematic shots in): https://youtu.be/ZIdh7hxz1G8", "Given the state of these people they've probably smelt worse stuff in their sink", "Talking out of your ass", "[ Jump to 09:20 @ EXPLODING Glitter Bomb 4.0 vs. Package Thieves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c584TGG7jQ&t=0h9m20s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Mark Rober, Video Length: [18:28])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@09:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c584TGG7jQ&t=0h9m15s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Thank you for being one of the few voices of reason in this thread. Reddit has for the most part completely lost its skeptical eye. People need to go back and watch Captain Disillusion (used to be super popular on Reddit, now I never seee him mentioned) -- yes, he dealt with VFX mostly, but it's that type of thinking that people need to have - critical, skeptical, alert to any editing and narrative tricks. Asking why and how at each step, taking nothing at face value. \n\nIt seems most redditors are just dying to believe these types of videos at face value now (another extremely popular one being Channel 5/All Gas No Brakes). Yes, these videos are obviously very entertaining. And yes there is some truth, possibly a lot of truth in them. But there is a lot that could be staged, and the risk vs. reward heavily favors faking things especiallly when it's someone hugely popular like this. \n\nProblem is you usually get downvoted for even suggesting this. Reddit often falls into the same trap of celebrity/YouTuber worship they like to ridicule others for, they just have different people they idolize.", "Oh, poor you. Next time you're waiting in line at the supermarket just gun down the people in front of you because their entire life is worth less than a slither of your time.", "Not to mention getting in a potentially deadly car accident is a fair and just punishment for stealing a package", "I agree with you. I understand that working for NASA is a very big deal and I do not doubt his skills. But is there a need to steal other people work and claim it as yours?", "I'm waiting for the aerosolized compressed version of the skunk spray.", "I want him to use the dye they put in money stacks in the banks.", "This guy really is milking this lie for all it's worth.", "See you at da party Richter!", "[You IRL](https://c.tenor.com/ChDBO-Jw7DYAAAAM/focus-homer-simpson.gif)", "It's an asshole problem. People are assholes.", "“treats people like trash”. What happens is that the country thrives, and poor people flock to it expecting to be fed.\n\nYou could give everyone all the money they need, but then mexicans would migrate over and bawl their eyes out for it. \n\nThis is the society you’re making.", "So should we just allow non racist rednecks to use lethal force then? How do you identify?", "I love this as a prank however. When I see broken glass on the street I collect it and when I have enough I prank my friends. If I get a ride with them I take the glass with me and then when we are in a place I tell them I left something in my bag. I get their keys go to the car, roll down their window and sprinkle the broken glass around. I then call them out and tell them someone smashed in their window. I once let a buddy believe it until he went to the autoglass place to get it replaced. He told me the look on the guys face when he just rolled up the window and couldn't understand how a human could be as stupid as my friend, who in fairness had reason to believe it had been smashed. Still makes me smile.", "What excuse did those racist rednecks give for hunting down Arbery?", "equity is when poor people get special treatment to get the “same” as everyone else.\n\nWhat they don’t tell you is that it never lasts, and they’ll be demanding free money every day for the rest of their life.", "wtf how does this even work? If I see someones phone can I just go ahead and steal it, as long as is not an expensive one? Can I go to a dunking donut and steal 900$ worth of pastries? Lmao that's crazy", "Dijon or honey?", "Bait cars but it handcuffs you to the steering wheel and blasts NSYNC with the windows down as autodrive kicks in right to the police station.", "I would read the articles yourself, but yes", "And what if the person driving the car got into an accident?", "Go read the statute. I can use lethal force against someone doing criminal mischief on my property at night. Kids TPing a house is criminal mischief and there is nothing in the statute about any kind of warning or it being your last resort. You can just start blasting kids at night. Again, I encourage everyone to go read that section of the penal code. It's FAR and away the most liberal in the US.", "Let's say we're talking about a $200 camera. Seems like a reasonably average example for an item worth hours of work that somebody might steal from a car. Could be a laptop, could be a basketball glove, but let's go with a camera, or any item worth a couple hundred bucks.\n\nSo this object is worth more than a human life, so a human life is worth less than $200. By your logic, any theft worth about this sum or more is punishable by death penalty: The only reason you'd shoot the person is because they stole an item from you. You judge them for the crime and you execute them as the punishment. For consistency's sake, I suppose every other crime that causes $200+ of damages to another party should also have a death penalty attached to it, no? \n\nDoes it make sense?\n\nDrive a car a bit negligently. You could've chosen not to, but you dented another person's car and it's gonna cost $500 to fix. The other person can now shoot you in the head. Sounds fair.\n\nYou got drunk and got in a fight. It's battery, and that hospital bill for the concussion you gave that dude, oh boy that'll be a couple thousand. Off with your head.\n\nSee a pretty girl and give her a whistle? She feels threatened by your harrassment, calls the cops, they shoot you just in case, because it'd cost them a few hours of time and some money in facilities just to take you in for questioning.\n\nThere's a reason we generally consider that punishment must fit the crime, and why in most of the civilized world the human life is valued far beyond a couple hundred bucks.\n\nIn Texas it seemingly isn't. But we ought to remember that what goes around, comes around, and your understandable frustration and anger towards thieves would be better directed towards the system that puts people at such a disadvantage that they have no option but to steal. \n\nImproving education and opportunities in your local community does provably reduce crime much more than threatening to shoot every thief. The latter might make some thieves reconsider, but it'll never stop those who think it's worth the risk. \n\nImproving education and removing the need to thieve in the first place will put a dent on crime rates and will make you feel safer too.", "Serious question. Isn’t that blackmail even if they’ve done something illegal?", ">He's demanding the thief allow their face to be shown\n\nNo, he's giving the option to the thief.", "Hmm. Now that you mention it, the pawn shop scene in this vid stood out to me as a red flag of staged.\n\nThe customer is arguing for 500, the pawn shop owner is only offering 400.\n\nThere's not a pawn shop in the world that would offer 400 for an item without branding and a known resale value. For all he knows, this \"speaker\" costs under 50 bucks.", "How do you think he got hired at NASA…", "GET OUUUUUUUT! GET OUUUUUUUUUUT!", "you have no idea what you’re talking about. \n\ncameras are a recent invention that are exceptional at deterring crime. As are guns, To some extent tasers and police cars.\n\nThe reason why crime would be lower is because we have more technology available.", "You just combined two of my favorite YouTube themes.", "he doesn’t know what he thinks. they just want free money for breathing and pooping.", "Probably diluted it. Bad things could happen if everyone acted like Mccaulkin", "What if someone inhaled the glitter? That seems like assault straight away (keep in mind I’m all for assaulting these people).", "Took a whole 2 seconds to make yourself look like a fool sure.", "They used to react very strongly, maybe they put fewer bottles now or the formula is weaker.", "https://youtu.be/oh7sVSe0xos", "And usually deductibles are more than the cost of repair, so insurance companies generally don't have to worry about covering it. Also kind of depends on what is stolen, how much it's worth, and if the owner's renters or homeowner's insurance covers their property outside the home. Real pain in the ass. Didn't realize car break-ins were so high in SF. That's insane how fast they were broken into. Pretty scary to come across your car with a window broken in.", "Naw man, pawn shops regularly pay hundreds of dollars for random electronics they've never heard of before.\n \nHaha.", "Blackmailing is legal if the threat is legal action? Really?", "I think the number one change that needs to be made for 5.0 is to have audio that's basically \"you thieving piece of shit! What the hell is wrong with you!\" Basically some line that should point out how awful of human beings they are for stealing someone's package off their porch.", "Lutefisk", "You should do his marketing for free then.", "From an ethical point of view these people get to get away with robbery by allowing themselves to be made fun of instead. Sounds more than fair to me.\n\nEdit: I just realized that it should be more than fair to say \"pay me or I report you to the cops\"", "proof", "He’s making plenty of money making these videos.", "I'd like to see it spray expanding foam", "You think meth is only for the poor! Oooh bless your heart.", "Jimmy has a buddy at hundreds of DA offices across the US?", "I got lucky this way once. All cars on our street was broken into one night except mine. I wondered why, then found out that I had forgotten to lock the car! Obviously the thief had raided my car too, but he didn't break my windows.", "With every version i hope the farts become stinkier. They never do.", "How about a place that you can NOT have to live in your car?", "If you go to r/SanFrancisco, you’ll see that every other post is suggesting people do this.", "That’s the joke", "Thats why I'm fully OK with anyone NIMBYing. \n\nI absolutely wouldn't want a homeless shelter next to me, so it'd be a bit hypocritical to shit on rich people for also not wanting one.", "In SF someone smashed my friends car window three times in a year even though there was nothing in it. Another time my then GFs window was smashed and they stole her car charger and a La Croix.", "Some people don't have a choice, but yeah, some people do choose to live out of their car. My SO lived out of her Prius for a year because she needed to be in Los Angeles and didn't want to pay rent -- she said it was one of the best years of her life because she had to live very intentionally. Some people are building out vans/buses as off-grid vehicles. My SO has a short bus parked in my backyard at the moment. There's a huge nomadic movement going on right now -- people love the freedom and flexibility it offers. With WFH being more of a thing now, and housing costs getting outrageous, it actually makes a lot of sense once you go down that youtube rabbit hole.", "This is exactly what I was thinking watching it when the guy opened it in the car. Like this is funny and all but what if that guy got scared, swerved and smashed into another car / person?", "Does anyone at this point not know this is all faked? None of those people are criminals. Is he still using his friends or did he have to hire actors at this point?", "Eh, really only SOMA (weird sewer smell) and around the Tenderloin are dirty and smell. Have you been to no other neighborhoods that people actually want to live in? I don’t visit LA and walk around Skid Row, complaining about the entirety of LA.", "I don't. This dipshit should never have been allowed to own guns. He was one of those \"I would have been a Navy SEAL but\" kinds of guys. Think XXL tactical gear kind of dude.\n\nHe was the kind of guy who thought shooting people would be the ultimate in badass. In reality I think he'd probably shit his pants and cry into his $10,000 tricked out AR the first time a round snapped over his head and impacted the wall next to him.\n\nHe was literally the last person you'd want on \"your team\" in an active shooter situation because he'd be just as dangerous as the actual crazy person firing into the crowd.", ">“Sign the release and we won’t press charges. Capiche?”\n\n\"Sounds fair. Oh, hey, do the police know about you setting up boobytrapped devices?\"\n\nEdit: Oh, he claims the police are aware later in the video. I'm a little surprised because I would have thought this device could make you liable for all sorts of things.", "Well that implication is totally baseless.", "It's definitely naive to have confidence either way. We simply lack sufficient evidence to know the merits of the existing footage.", "Maybe a concussive grenade or a flash bang? Something that the police authorise and supply lol", "Liberals clearly. You have not heard how California is the worst thing on the planet?\n\nNothing like the oasis of Meth infested rural communities that have one watering hole, a dollar general, and one urgent care where your get $2000 bills that keep you in poverty because universal health care is for communists!", "It's hard for me to imagine most of All Gas No Brakes interviews being faked. They're too insane to be insincere.", "I look forward to finding this comment thrown into the woods somewhere.", "Jesus. What kind of car do you drive that was too loud stock?", "I live in Dallas. Our car was stolen. We knew who stole it. We knew where he was staying. Friends reported seeing our car there. We reported all this to the police and they did nothing. They said since we knew who stole it we probably just let them borrow it or traded it for drugs. When the car was found abandoned later, it wasn't even in the system as stolen so we had to pay the impound fees for an abandoned vehicle, not the ones for a stolen one. Ended up losing the vehicle because we couldn't afford to get it out of impound.", "I'd like to see the glitter replaced with fermented diarrhea and the fart spray replaced with rotten egg.", "Oh I'm glad, he wouldn't sleep well!", "Torturing poor people? If that's how you reference criminals who steal then I think you need a reality check.\n\nThese packages could be gifts that parents are buying their kids for Christmas. Fuck porch pirates and anyone who thinks there's nothing wrong with these idiots.", "I had a buddy who lived there that would do it, but then homeless people would just go in there. Piss and shit, and not leave.", "But like.. If I'm buying one of these for the purposes of using it myself, and someone happens to steal it off my porch (like, actually happens to, not sarcastically).. No booby traps were set. Just the package that I ordered getting stolen.", "I was worried when he opened it in the car. That's an easy accident and easy lawsuit.", "As well as spraying, they should have an \"oozing\" version that drips and seeps into things.", "It was a 2018 Audi RS3. The cops here were giving out tickets to absolutely anybody who “stood out” in traffic. One guy got nailed in his BMW X3 who also lost in court", "4000 dollars is more than some people can replace. For them, this is on the same level of 'inconvenience' as having a truck drive through their living room. \n\n\nBut these people get to walk in, wreck your life because they feel like it, and walk out while the law does nothing. And that guy has had it happen to him 3 times. You'll start to fantasize about blasting the fucker.", "Yeah that one made me nervous, he was clearly driving dangerously when the horn and glitter went off.l", "I dunno.. I’ve known and dated a few people that work at NASA it’s not THAT big of a deal.", "If true, that's even shittier logic. \n\n\"We're unable to do our jobs to protect you, so we'll change the rules so it's not our job anymore! Problem solved!\"", "And exactly this is why these videos are fucking problematic...\n\nIf they are real people and not just actors... it's never talked about why they steal these packages.", "Hopefully it would still be the driver/theif at fault. What would be the difference than if they stole a regular package and also tried opening it while driving and still crashed from being distracted while driving? I wouldn't expect the victim who's package was stolen to be at fault any more than someone who left a glitter bomb on their porch. Or at least, I would sure hope not.", "Couldn't have said it better. Mark could maybe.. ask himself why package theft is so prevelant...", "Was it last year that these were found out to be fake?", "Actual fart spray is absolutely terrible. Especially in some of the confined spaces you see in the video. That really is weird to me that some people just don't react much to it. \n\nI would have to throw it out a window from the spray alone, much less the glitter. \n\nI do wonder though, if they're in panic mode and freeze. It is a common enough reaction to serious surprise- your body sort of shuts down.", "It's a beautiful city from what I recall 10 years ago. It's always been like this but maybe it's become more dramatic. One day overnight, my family's car got broken into for a navigator.", "you identify them if they have your shit in their hands", "That's the attorney speaking.", "Texas BBQ has nothing on KC BBQ.", "Dance, monkey, dance!", "those people in front of me are just like me. trading their time for what they need to survive. you can fuck right off with your enlightened shit. some of us live in the real world", "The first 3 bombs weren't enough, so we're stepping out up by adding Cobalt #27 and Anthrax! Let's see their faces when they realize that there's no headphones in this package... after their faces melt", "It is weird to me because some fart sprays smell absolutely vile. Like, need to evacuate the room levels of awful. They should just find a better version.", "Yes. Some people are genuinely THAT desperate for cash (usually for drugs)", "I agree. If one of those people wrecked their car after opening while driving they could possibly win in court. It's dumb but it happens.", "> I wouldn't expect the victim who's package was stolen to be at fault any more than someone who left a glitter bomb on their porch.\n\nBut in this case it was designed specifically to be distracting and intentionally left out to be stolen. Seems dangerously close to a boobytrap, which is highly illegal.\n\nI think Rober is banking on porch pirates not being the type of people to lawyer up but it seems like this could backfire monumentally with the wrong person. Like a thief who breaks into a home, gets injured, and then sues the homeowner.", "I think there needs to be a glue mister that glitter passes through - giving the perp a nice sparkly finish", "I mean, they did steal someone’s property, it’d be hard to defend that in a court of law", "because in the past, at least the fisrt two videos, it's been proven that he fakes all of this. The reactions are fake and the people are paid actors. There was a guy with a breakdown of the first two videos, and then other tech youtubers started outting him out as well. Now he's just popular enough not to care about criticism so yeah", "And the people that murdered him are getting locked up for life???\n\nWhat kind of nonsense are you trying to say here? \n\nYou even have the wrong case since they weren't arguing that they tried to defend property, they were arguing regular self defense, which they lost the right to due to provoking Arbery (the provocation wouldn't have neutralized their right to self defense if their citizen's arrest was legal)", "Hmm... its almost like a lot of people have permanently lost or damaged their sense of smell over the past few years....", "Not to mention, as seen in THIS video - thieves don't only open these things in their own car/home. \n\nThe pawn shop guy should maybe be a little bit more discerning - but he doesn't deserve to have his store covered in paint.", "They need to make it so when the top comes off it’s very difficult to put back on.", "I think of it like fishing. Or anything where you're removing something from a pool of a regenerating population. \n\nYou're only making a \"dent\" if you are doing it at such a large scale as to outpace the \"desire\" to steal. Sure, you might catch a few people, but others will just replace them. Your average porch pirate is not worried about a glitter device, and their behavior isn't going to change. If anything, they might just put stuff in a garbage bag before opening it. I can't see this having any impact unless it was widely available to the masses.\n\nUntil the risk of capture becomes significant enough, these devices really only serve as a very satisfying justice video on the internet.", "I think he even admitted to some of it himself, but i don't remember exactly how or where or when", "Agreed.\n\nJust start labeling these porch pirates like the East India Company did to regular pirates back in the days. Brand them with T for Thief on their hand so everyone can see that they are just the bottom filth of society, not worth keeping around.", "That's the one I noticed as well. If he had gotten into a fatal car accident, due to being attacked while driving by Mark's device. I don't think Mark would be off the hook for any damages.", "No they could not. The product was acting as intended and was stolen. No court is gonna side with the thief (unless the court is really merciful)", "Why?", "This has nothing to do with it.\n\nIn many countries carriers are just not allowed to leave packages out. End of story. You have to stop by the branch to pick up your package. No theft possible. This the main reason non-USA redditors express disbelief that package theft is a thing.\n\nHigh-volume package delivery is an American mainstay now, but is not as popular elsewhere until very recently. As other countries lean more heavily on Amazon and other online retailers they will also see an increase in this type of theft.\n\nPeople everywhere are the same. There are opportunistic, morally questionable people everywhere. Give them a chance and they'll show you.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nPackage theft is so incredibly easy, and a handful of porch pirates in a medium city can steal a ton of packages, making the problem look like an epidemic.\n\nIn the USA, you know for a fact (especially this time of year) that most houses probably have package outside. It is a very low barrier to the theft, and will only become more common as package delivery increases year to year.", "Kind of sad that there isn't a special glitter that is dry but when opened it leaves a permanent mark and starts sticking like paint.", "Did not know that. Does make sense. Thank you for the information.", "Have somebody else mail it to his house, then he has plausible deniability that he had anything to do with the wrongdoing.", "Former Political Consultant here. People in this space ALWAYS embellish relationships. \n\nFor example I was on a conference call with John McCain once and said maybe 3 sentences.\n\n\"John McCain and I where talking last week...\"", "A home invader famously won a court case against a home owner who had set up a gun as a booby trap. It worked as intended.", "Left NASA for Apple iirc. Only recently left Apple to be a full time YouTuber even though his videos consistently have hit 20m+ views for years now", "I think it comes down to: is it illegal to create a boobytrap where the trap isn't designed to cause injury, but where a reasonable person might expect injury to be a likely possible outcome if the device was left unattended?\n\nI don't actually know the answer because I am not a lawyer. I imagine the answer would vary depending on local laws.", "The thieves sign releases.", "If you steal my cell phone and get into a car accident while texting on it, am I liable for your stupidity? \n\nThe box doesn't trigger until you interact with it, and it is expressly designed to generate surprise. If the operator is unfamiliar with the device they have stolen, operates said device in a motor vehicle, and causes an accident as a result, it's a huge stretch to pin liability on the maker of the device. It would be another story if the device were designed specifically to cause someone to wreck.\n\nIn short, you can't hold a device manufacturer liable for your irresponsible use of a device. Otherwise, Samsung and Apple would spend every penny fighting lawsuits from people who got into an accident while texting.", "That trap was ment to hurt someone. This trap is not. Incidental vs intended.", "The association of homelessness with crime here is going a bit too far. People steal random shit. Whether they have homes or not may be a contributing factor to why, but you're equating homelessness with being a thief. Most homeless people aren't doing this, so there's no good reason to include them in with the minority of homeless people who are. \n\nHell, watch the video. One extremely common theme is the thieves take their packages to homes. Would you equate having a home with being a thief?", "He should just add a can of Surströmming in there.", "Stuff gets left by the door everywhere, not just the US. I don't see how that's the answer to why is it so big in the US. I've had packages left by my door all my adult life and never had one stolen. \n \nThe front door of my parent's house opens right onto the pavement (sidewalk) and sometimes small packages get left leaning on the door. You could literally kick them (the packages, not my parents) when walking past their house without breaking stride. Never had anything stolen. I've also never heard of anyone I know getting a package stolen. \n \nFrom what I see it is a bigger problem in the US than anywhere else (although, to be fair, that's biased because I see most of it on reddit which is predominantly US content), but I don't think because they're left by the door is the answer to why it's so big in the US.", "Ehhhhh who cares. There are a lot more sciency guys with their heads up their asses -- Bill Bye, Neil Tyson -- that a guy like Rober who seems pretty damn genuine can keep the credit.", "This is an idea someone else had. Take an entire raw chicken and put it in a family size glass jar of mayonnaise, then heat it for weeks. Then set up the bomb to destroy the glass when the porch pirate tries to open the box.", "That’s just the difference between murder and manslaughter. A smart (and unscrupulous) lawyer could easily show that Rober is at fault for damages/injury.", "Fuck em", "wtf? San Francisco is amazing", "Can you imagine someone driving while blinded by stench?", "The worst part is that these are pretty easy to break up. Usually there is a ring involving one fencer who recruits dozens of mostly homeless folks and pays them cash or drugs. A single ring is enough to fuck up a whole downtown neighborhood.\n\nLike in Toronto a couple year back they broke up a single ring for bike thieves organized by one person (Igor Kenk) and bike thefts in the entire city fell by more than 50%.\n\nEveryone knew that Kenk was behind it, people had been calling the cops on him for years and they just weren’t acting. He had a warehouse with over 3,000 stolen bikes and all night every night homeless people would wheel in new one. Not in some secret location either, it backed onto a major downtown street (Queen St) totally in plain sight.", "Just leave your windows down", "He said it before where the packages are just valuable enough (I think a few hundred bucks each?) that he would get in contact with them and say he'd pay them to get the device back -- maybe they also have to show their faces if he pays them?", "This way you get the whole experience when they mug you right outside the post office instead. ^^/s", "A box full of fleas, ticks, and be bugs", "Need more potent stink juice, I was expecting them to be disgusted, but I guess making them sick can turn the tables (and low-life stealers like that will do anything to get some money).", "I like what he does but his YouTube accent is kinda annoying.", "I used to work in SF. It’s the cleanest my car has ever been because I wouldn’t dare leave valuables visible on any of the seats. I’ve left work to find entire rows of parked cars with a window smashed in nearly every single one.", "I'll wait for V7.0. Now, with FLAMETHROWERZ™.", "I think he does these all over the place, so they might be clips from 1 party and 2 party consent states. I doubt they’d be able to get people to sign a release form", "He says his lawyers just wouldn’t allow him to sell it so I assume they okayed it at some point.", ">\tI've had packages left by my door all my adult life and never had one stolen\n\nSame here, in the US. You can’t exactly judge the rates of porch piracy from watching a video that was likely filmed over the course of a few months.", "No (IANAL). Blackmail is asking for money in exchange for not spreading information about someone/something. Asking someone to sign a release so as not to press charges to the authorities is not blackmail, especially considering that their faces are not blurred now. So the thief is essentially sharing the information themselves (hey, look at me stealing this thing).", "What if the house caught fire and firemen broke through that door to check for survivors? There is a good reason for banning booby traps and it isn't just poor old criminals.", "[https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/glitter-bomb-video-was-partially-faked-former-nasa-engineer-confirms.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/glitter-bomb-video-was-partially-faked-former-nasa-engineer-confirms.html) \n\n\nI found it!", "Press charges because we have evidence of you breaking the law, or let us use your face in our video..I mean..they knowingly did something illegal. They got caught. It's like police asking you to reveal information and they'll give you a lighter sentence. Would that be considered blackmail too?", "53 countries still have the death penalty, with China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Egypt, the US, Pakistan, Somalia, South Sudan, and Yemen being the leaders in enforcing it in recent history. The electorate in those countries in that list who are democracies clearly support it to some degree; even if those voters are too cowardly to actually lynch someone themselves for fear of consequences or whatever, the death penalty is not something which actually provably reduces crime, it is basically enacted because people like the idea of \"criminals\" being killed.\n\nFocusing in on America, setting aside undeniable lynchings, look at both the groundswell of support and right wing popular news coverage for people killing protesters (eg Rittenhouse, those people who drive cars into protesters, etc) which speaks to a similar bloodlust.\n\nThe Texas laws alone that we are only a few comments deep from are about giving people the right to kill each other over property.\n\nSure, there may be a difference of degree between someone who likes it happening but only at arm's length and someone who would do it themselves if given the opportunity, but at the end of the day that implies that support for lethal retribution is higher than just the sort of stuff you see in certain online communities.", "Because generally speaking, poor people are often eating a bunch of cheap fast food, and lack education.", "sees picture of Johnny Depp smiling into the camera..\n\nJohnny Depp smiled at me yesterday..", "Mark Roper is a mad man.", ">quit spending 3/4 of his videos pimping his merch and \"training courses\"\n\nAmazing that at the cusp of 2022 people still don't understand content creators. This is his job.", "I talked to a guy at work about this and his vigilante way of dealing with it was to have someone \"unknowingly\" mail him an explosive package and let a porch pirate take it, causing physical harm when it's opened later. \n\nCrazy and terrible hypothetical but that to him that was the only way people would stop doing it", "You’ll probably be fine. The media likes to embellish California crime. We spend a lot of time out there and haven’t had any problems. Just be smart.", "Good advice in much of the world", "I mean minus the fact he has a whole video series explaining he’s doing this on purpose.", "You would have an extremely difficult time proving that leaving a glitter bomb on a porch constituted criminal negligence or recklessness. That’s an essential element of manslaughter", "Right!!!\n\nHe goes out of his way to show he is using special glitter and people just assume it's metal shard glitter.", "Signed, Oregon", "I wasn’t arguing if it’s justified, just pointing out that there’s precedent.", "I get it but if we ever actually want to make shit better we’re going to have to stop with this nimby stuff. \n\nIt’s a complicated thing though. Not really for shitting on any individuals over it.", "But why do couriers leave stuff at the door? I've never had a delivery like this, ever. Always rang the bell, if I'm at home, all good, if not, came back the next day.", "No. In the first version some friends of one of the volunteers he had put the box on their porch decided to stage their own reaction (so they could be in the Video I guess?)\n\nHe didn't know when he uploaded and removed the clips from the video when he found out\n\nAs far as I know that's the only thing that happened.", "I wasn’t saying this is manslaughter. I was saying that he suggested it’s not a crime if you cause harm accidentally and that’s not true…manslaughter for instance.", "Don't forget the annual Kevin Spacey video too.", "Like the term \"booby trap\" gets thrown around this sub when really it doesn't apply. A booby trap, per is definition, is designed to hurt someone. This is not designed to do anything except mildly annoy someone. Its no more a \"booby trap\" than a hand taser from a joke store.", "I mean I’ve also never had a package stolen and I live in the US. It is a problem here for sure but it’s not like everyone’s packages are always being stolen.", "Well, nobody would consider leaving packages out by the front door here, or anywhere outside really. They either get delivered to the recipient, a neighbour, or a pickup point. If all those fail, the package is returned.", "What is it about channel 5/AGNB you think is \"staged\"?\n\nLike I'm sure he has plenty of footage that isn't nearly as entertaining, and he might even set up shots with the best people he finds... But that doesn't really make them fake, does it? Do you think the people in those videos are paid actors?", "Its cool, but theres like 4 videos.\n\nStart a gofundme or something and lets ramp this baby up", "What makes you think that?\n\nIn the first version some friends of one of the volunteers he had put the box on their porch decided to stage their own reaction (so they could be in the Video I guess?)\n\nHe didn't know when he uploaded and removed the clips from the video when he found out\n\nAs far as I know that's the only thing that happened. I haven't seen any credible accusations of him intentionally faking anything", "I had the exact same thought. If that guy had crashed his car and gotten injured he probably would win in court over booby trapping the package.", "And what lie would that be, and do you have any kind of proof or...?", "If it’s a valuable package you do usually have to sign for it which means it won’t be left at your door. \n\nMost Americans would be extremely annoyed if all packages worked this way because deliveries mostly happen on days we are at the office.\n\nPackages really aren’t stolen that often. It is an issue but like I’ve never had one stolen. Usually you don’t hear of many people having dealt with this more than once. \n\nOverall the convenience of not having to drive to the post office to pick it up outweighs the inconvenience of a possible stolen package.", "Nope, 20% more than last year. I think they diluted it though. If you look at Calkins' reactions that would kill someone if they were driving and the passenger opened the package... or just cause an accident but why risk it.", "You got a source or what", "Radios aren’t boobytraps though.", "Yeah, sorry my bad I wasn't talking about this video specifically. But the other ones I see it is almost always in the US – although that's also a bias there because it's on reddit where most of it is US content as I said. \n \nLooking at some statistics available: \n \nIn the US, the highest states (and DC) are: Louisiana with ~2,300 package thefts reported per 100,000 people, DC has 3,700 per 100k, South Carolina has 2,100 per 100k\n \nThe highest counties in the UK (Buckinghamshire, Berkshire and Oxfordshire) had 31 package thefts per 100,000 \n \nThere's definitely reasons why it has become more prevalent in the US (that I don't know), but I don't think it comes down to packages being left by the door.", "I fully agree. something about him just feel not right to be honest His mannerism turn me off from him but I love veritasium and numberphile and others", "Lethal force is only okay against poor people so get those disgusting evil commie ideas out of your head", "I hate these.\n\nFirst of all, he's admitted that some of these were faked/plants.\n\nSecondly, it never actually seems to have any real effect.\n\nI realize there are limits due to laws, but jeez, make it feel consequential.\n\nLAME.", "This is a good point. Statistics don’t always tell the full story.", "Because that's not what happened.\n\nIn the first version some friends of one of the volunteers he had put the box on their porch decided to stage their own reaction (so they could be in the Video I guess?)\n\nHe didn't know when he uploaded and removed the clips from the video when he found out\n\nAs far as I know that's the only thing that happened.", "I wish he would stop fucking around and get these people all arrested.", "I don't see how his lawyers cleared this. If that thing causes a car accident, he could be liable to both the thief and to whatever third party they crash into.", "Didn't his friends open it because not enough people were stealing the packages? These are all probably fake as well.", "That's fair, I didn't word that very well, I didn't mean to infer that it's happening everywhere in the US. And my own experiences aren't necessarily true for everywhere of course.", "R u a ghost?", "What if you happened to be the innocent person the thief crashed into after being startled by the package?", "It would still be courteous to give credit.", "That dude needs to go to jail. Crackheads are crackheads but that's something else.", "I'd still go after the theif who hit me, not the person who they stole the package from. It still goes back to, a theif stealing a package and opening it while driving, is being a distracted driver, whether the package was left there intentionally or not. In my opinion. But I'm no lawyer.", "Yeah a ratcheting mechanism on the popping mechanism would be good.", "It's important to Reddit these days to make sure thieves and other criminals are well taken care of and don't have too much to worry about.", "that's not the kind of exploding that will actually stop them...", "I'd say it's on the thief for opening a package while driving. At that moment it became distracted driving.", "This is why we can't have nice people.", "I agree that Neil's head is so far up his own ass he can see the stars, but I don't think the same is true for Bill Nye. He has gone from explaining basic science to children to explaining big problems and how they could be solved, so I could see why someone might think something ridiculous about him.", "THe people who work for him could either make tons of money doing projects for a content creator without necessarily receiving hype/fame that they may not even want...\n\nOr they could work a normal job and make mediocre money for half the fun.\n\nI doubt anyone who works for him isn't doing it voluntarily.\n\nIt's like thinking editors for famous youtube channels should get more fame and attention when they're being paid to do their career and may not even necessarily want any attention.", "In 2050, the Rob(b)er IS the glitter.", "Overproduced garbage & his prior glitter video was fake, supposedly \"without his knowledge\"\n\nhttps://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/glitter-bomb-video-was-partially-faked-former-nasa-engineer-confirms.html", "Ah gotcha, thanks for clarifying that", "You wouldn't hold the person that designed the package with the intent of having it stolen responsible at all? To me this would be an example of playing stupid games, winning stupid prizes for all involved.", "The statistics you’re referring to are the rates of larceny-theft in each state. Porch piracy is included in that, but is not tracked on its own on a federal level. Larceny-theft also includes things like stealing a bike, stealing a part or accessory off a car, shoplifting, and pickpocketing.", "My yearly Christmas gift. Highlight", "On a related note, didn't the Apple HomePods sell for $350 new? What kind of pawn shop buys possibly stolen items at _above_ retail price?", "Unblurred face probably means some sort of deal. Maybe they signed a release and Mark wouldn't press charges.", "itt :reddit couch lawyers", "Every other comment in this thread is saying they wish this was more violent wtf is wrong with you?", "This years video wasn't as good. Seemed to be a lot of talky talky but not a whole lot of busting people. I'd like to see Him work with law enforcement to actually ARREST these people.", "His first version of this project was basically staged and he didn't bring that up until he got caught lying about it", "Wouldn't recording audio be illegal per eavesdropping laws?", "don't forget los Angeles, California is now shit hole central", "because police have better things to do apparently", "I get what you're saying but even if you do something illegal, there still exist laws that protect you. You don't just lose all rights immediately after having committed a crime.", "Hasn't Covid ruined a lot of people's ability to smell?", ">In short, you can't hold a device manufacturer liable for your irresponsible use of a device. Otherwise, Samsung and Apple would spend every penny fighting lawsuits from people who got into an accident while texting.\n\nI don't disagree with your overall conclusion that the perp here would have a hard time winning. However, you can certainly hold a device manufacturer liable for irresponsible but reasonably foreseeable use of the device. That's an acceptable theory of product liability. It's also why many products have seemingly dumb warnings on them.\n\nIn any case, I don't think this would fall under product liability at all anyway. The \"victim\" didn't purchase the product and has no real expectation as to what it is or the condition of it.", "Nope this was back in 2008.", "who cares, robbers are pieces of shit", ">watching this is like watching a behind the scenes of criminals \n\nfixed that for you. \n\nnot all poor people are criminals", "The term booby trap is actually perfectly suited, a boob/booby a silly/stupid or simple person and a trap designed to make someone appear as such.\n\nThe term was actually originally used to describe schoolboy pranks designed to humiliate each other or tutors and was then co-opted decades later during world war 1 to describe more lethal type of traps.", "But he’s not making anyone steal it. It’s in-front of a persons house or mailbox. It’s not in an empty park.", "you are the reason they put warning labels on unnecessary things.", "It's a trade off right? Much like when you settle with a lawyer before being convicted.", "Ya let's shoot people for breaking windows instead of working to make assholes less common!\n\nTypical. Small man takes the easy, yet less effective, route because mad.", "You noticed that it’s just fat people stealing?", "Yes I see now that that's the case. The article I found was very misleading though. \n \n>The study, conducted by CCTV Camera World, analyzed FBI crime data through 2020 to determine the frequency of package thefts per state. South Carolina had the third-highest rate, with 2,116 crimes per 100,000 state residents, according to the study. \n \n \nhttps://www.counton2.com/news/crime/sc-ranks-third-most-vulnerable-state-to-porch-pirates/)\" \n \nBut I just clicked through to find the original source it does state that it falls under larceny-theft as you say. Thanks for the correction there.", "He literally mentions that they do in both the [v2.0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_TSR_v07m0&t=118s) and [v3.0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4T_LlK1VE4&t=144s) videos....", "Right, but in this particular case, the thief is agreeing to \"unblurring\" their face. Effectively, they are agreeing to have their information revealed (by being in the video) in exchange for not being turned over to the police. So not exactly meeting the intent of the definition.", ">If you steal my cell phone and get into a car accident while texting on it, am I liable for your stupidity?\n\nNo, as the cell phone is probably not rigged with a trap.\n\n>In short, you can't hold a device manufacturer liable for your irresponsible use of a device.\n\nManufactured devices have expressly defined uses, whereas this is a device that is specifically meant to trick people. I don't see how this could hold up, unless he specifically puts a giant warning label on the box that says \"THIS IS A FAKE AND IT IS GOING TO EXPLODE INTO FART GLITTER\", and even with that I am not sure it would hold up. I don't see how one can \"misuse\" a device that is not meant to \"work as intended\" -- the thing shown on the box isn't even in the box. \n\nSure, maybe someone driving is not going to be able to sue because regardless of whether or not the device is a trap, they were supposed to be paying attention to the road. But the question still stands, since there could easily be a situation in which a passenger opens one of these boxes.\n\nUltimately, I am willing to accept that the answer to my question might be a \"no\", since this is almost certainly a topic he has broached with his lawyers. I was merely being curious.", "Sure, but if I boobytrap my front door and someone breaks in, im still liable for harm it causes them even though I didnt make them come through the door.\n\nBasically the laws pretty clear, you cant hurt people or cause damage even for committing crimes unless its in self defense.\n\nIt ultimately legally doesnt matter that hes not making them steal it. All that matters is that its clearly set up to punish someone who does steal it. If he crossed into causing actual damage, he could definitely face legal challenges.\n\nIf the guy that opened it driving had crashed from it going off, Mark Rober likely would have gotten sued. Not saying itd be a slam dunk case but thered have been enough there to warrant a court case.\n\nNot saying if thats right or wrong from a moral standpoint, just that its the way the law is.", "What a roundabout way to say you don't believe the penal system should be about rehabilitation.", "Language evolves and while \"booby trap\" once was a perfect description of the device it no longer is.. The current dictionary definition is more inline with its use after ww1, so I think, despite its earlier meaning its fair to say its not an appropriate term given modern lexicon. Especially in the context of law enforcement.", ">Imagine that guy crashes, and hurts himself or others badly because of the glitter-bomb, there would likely be cause to blame Mark still. \n>\n>So I bet he has to figure out how to do as much damage without really causing any.\n\nGiven that the package was stolen , I don't think he has any liability.", "That's a totally different scenario and not at all relevant. If someone stole your knife set and accidentally cut themselves, are you liable?", "That's the fault of the thief. A reasonable person wouldnt be opening a package in a moving car. So its unlikely you could bring any legal action for Mark Robber for that. You cant be responsible for everything a thief does with your property. What if you ordered some sort of toy that doesnt a jump scare and the thief opens it while driving and is startled into crashing?", "Common enough to be noticed but not super common. Though, I am sure lots of video is from/near California and it may be more common there. I'm from the midwest, and while I can't say I've seen people wear masks in their own home when it was just their family around. I do see a few people wearing a mask in their car, when they are the only one in it...\n\nI feel like half of it is that our media lacks nuance, especially on masking. And the other half is that a good amount of our population lacks common sense.", "My knife set isn’t generally set up as a booby trap.", "I think it's blackmail if you're not rich / competent enough to slip through the loopholes.\n\nSee also: newspapers canning articles after sending heads-up to people mentioned in them and getting paid for that service.", "I have lived in sf for three years and have literally not ever seen anyone do this or even heard about it. Is this something you read online?\n\nNever had my window smashed either fwiw. Don’t leave stuff in your car when you park and don’t leave your car on the street in the t-loin overnight is a much more practical and effective strategy.", "See that is the thing if it were a normal box one could argue that it wasn’t distracted driving till the glitter bomb went off.", "shooting assholes does make assholes less common tho", "That’s really all it takes, just don’t keep stuff, especially valuables or bags that might have valuables, in view of the windows of your car. \n\nLived here for three years, never had a window smashed. Do cops investigate window break ins in other cities?", "Just going to call out the obvious:\n\n\nIf they know that thieves are opening these boxes while driving - and there are multiple videos over the years when that happens - how long until some thief loses control of the car, crashes, and hurts/kills someone else who had nothing to do with this? Negligence lawsuit waiting to happen. As much as I enjoy watching porch pirates get dosed in glitter and fart spray they really need to stop it.", "[That's what the money is for](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Y6CIyyBcI)", "No.\n\nThey decreased it from a felony to a misdemeanor. Everyone online took that as \"legalizing theft\", which is not the case whatsoever. There are many different variables leading to the situations we see now, and it's laughable that people cling to the one reason it's not.", "Idk what's wrong w these people but the fart spray I've encountered smells way worse than a real fart.", "I’m not sure that’s what mark actually said to people", "JO to a video of a celebrity. \"So I had sex with Angelina Jolie...\"", "Yes but that's not all. If the thief was incapacitated enough to cause an accident or hit a pedestrian then the victim or their family could sue everyone involved. It would then be up to the courts to figure out who is most responsible. It's possible for multiple individuals to be found responsible and the court could divide up the liability into fractional parts.", "There’s a video on YouTube of a guy who builds a dogshit cannon to deter porch thieves.", "I judge from the reaction of the people. It always seems to be like a minor inconvenience to them rather than a problem to deal with.", "What the heck is a homepod supposed to be", "Booby traps that cause harm are illegal.", "Which we all know average thieves are known for intelligence.", "Exactly! The reason we have youtube videos with this amount of production value is because the creators make $$$ off of things like merch, course, and patreon. They aren't putting this amount of effort, time, and money into making a video just because they want to out of the kindness of their heart.\n\nNow some creators are better than others in the way they \"market\" to where it feels more genuine or a part of the video. Which can help with the \"experience\"", "The user replying to you reveals the truth about this meme, which is just that some folks, usually outside Sf/CA, want to blame the issue on “wokeness” so they invent a credible to them sounding reason the law was changed for “woke” reasons. \n\nThe law was changed - seven years ago - because the felony courts were packed with theft cases and because the limit had not been adjusted commensurate to inflation in many years. SF is one of the most population dense areas in the entire country. If you look at the historic data for that threshold over the last 40 years, you’ll see it hasn’t usually been much higher adjusted to inflation. \n\nPetty theft in sf is a more nuanced issue than one prop passed at this point years ago, and that’s why people who live here lever our criticisms at the mayor and the DA who have a lot more day to day responsibility for how the law is enforced here. \n\nFor what it’s worth I’ve lived here for three years and out of my friends and I one of us had our window smashed once, and she was parked overnight downtown with a bag in her back seat. My car got broken into in CT once and the cops didn’t exactly send it up to the crime lab for further investigation.", "I want to see a catalytic converter glitter bomb", "Y'all really should stop making the leap from shotgun tied to the door to glitter bomb. Legal precedent is not nearly so broad.", "Idk but the police do it all the time. \"Give up info on this guy and we won't press charges against you.\"", "Play stupid games...", "You'd think. However, that's not how the law works.\n\nIt's not like they would steal something potentially dangerous, and hurt themselves, by accident. They would have stole something potentially dangerous, and hurt themselves, almost by design.\n\nI'd agree that the thief is at fault, morally, but in law I am fairly certain he'd had some form of case.\n\nThis is especially true if you consider that the accident could harm someone else. That person wouldn't have stolen anything. So while the package thief is definitely morally the problem here, I would not be surprised to see Mark in-trouble too, if a situation like this arose. From the perspective of the person hurt, the thief wasn't 100% to blame for their accident, Mark was somewhat involved due to knowingly leaving a potentially dangerous trap where it might be stolen.\n\nI am however, not train in law. Not in the UK where I live, or the US, so I could be wildly wrong, but from what I understand, which is plenty, he could be at fault in that situation.", "There was an episode of Star Trek Next Generation where they landed on a planet the had no crime whatsoever. Seemed like a paradise at first until it turns out they punished any small infraction with the death penalty. Wesley is chasing a ball and falls into a cordoned off flower bed. They insist on applying their law in this case even to a visitor who didn’t know that the law existed. Then the captain has to face breaking the prime directive to save Wesley’s life. Good episode. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Justice_(episode)", "Except those negotiations happen at higher levels of the judicial / legal system. Not sure the victim of the crime would be able to legally make these kinds of negotiations and there would be no motivation for the higher level legal system to support a for-profit youtube video. Could I record thieves stealing junk packages off my porch and then negotiate for them to date my sister and drop charges?", "Yes, it's more effective but there are many ways where you can make this device more effective if you didn't care about the legality of things. Shooting pepperspray willy nilly is very illegal in many places.\n\nIf i was designing this device and putting in as much effort as these dudes, i'd take it way further - none of this pansy diluted fart spray and dash of glitter:\n\n* Fill it with real liquified feces, that has been sitting fermenting in air tight container, that squirts out with a very high pressure, at varying angles - them and their whole room would be covered in feces - I'd pay to see that happen to a thief lol.\n* Spontaneously combust extremely violently (ok I might be going a bit far)\n\nThe main problem with going this far is the rare collateral damage that may happen (squirting shit on the pawn shop owner) - with a fire the collateral is too great as you may burn down an entire apartment complex with people who aren't even guilty by association. So maybe I wouldn't go that far after more thought - and he's right in keeping it pretty tame.\n\nMaybe a tame suggestion is to also add an exteremly high pitch noise that running in the background - most people would find that very annoying.", "Silly me thought content creators job is to you know \\create content\\", "TwWWWWwwWooOoOoO WWeeeEks", "I hang out with a shit ton of homeless people (i'm a rubber tramp). There's a fuck ton of thieves. Half the god damn shanties in my town are literal chop shops", "That’s not why it was changed, though. The felony limit hadnt been adjusted relative to inflation in years and is meant to be a relative threshold. SF is hugely population dense and the courts were packed with people getting felony charges for stealing shampoo. \n\nThe city spends plenty of money elsewhere trying to address socioeconomic cause of inequality and there’s plenty of criticism levered at the DA here for poor management and virtue signaling behavior but him being bad at his job is not a direct effect of a prop revision passed years ago. Reddit talks shit about Fox News all day but then urban california comes up and it’s like the highest upvoted comments are just repeating their talking points.\n\nDo people really think that if someone broke their window in pretty much any other city the local PD would be sending a field investigation team and catching the perpetrator?", "The weird thing about this is you're okay with thieves thinking it's okay to steal.", "Other way around. Poor people exist because of private neighborhoods.", "Yup, I think they are in panic or at least alert. It's going to really smell later.", "From person experience, yes.", "The crazy thing for me was they were just driving around hitting every single car with something in it. Cars that had been parked only a couple of mins. So they didn’t see something expensive and come back to it, just rolled up and didn’t even think about it", "This has been my general reaction since version 1.0. Opening the package while driving has major potential to cause an accident and serious injury or worse.", "And knowing people they would buy it and stick their face in front of the glitter bomb just to sue for eye damage", "Ignorance is no defense for the law, lawyer Picard should have known that.", "> Wow, what is wrong with San Fran\n\nProgressive politicians and DA essentially decriminalizing crime like this.", "Which is why I'm asking if someone steals a potentially dangerous object from you and then later injures themselves with it, is it your fault?\n\nMark has legal advice, and is working with police on this. I'm sure his lawyers and the police probably have a better idea of the legality of it than you do.", "Nimby shit doesn't stop, even after things like that are built. My GF used to work at DV/SA shelter. And they would get lots of hate and people saying stuff like \"that's not even an issue in our community, we don't need you here\". When their shelter is clearly full of DV/SA victims. It's wild...", "They changed that limit seven years ago and it was effectively an inflation adjustment to reduce the load on felony court. You can look at the historic data. \n\nThe current issues are much more related to the current DA and to people being desperate. Reddit seems to forget SF is one of the most population dense cities in the entire country. \n\nIt’s fascinating how quickly discussions about urban california bring up tucker carlson talking points here and people just lap it up. My window has never been broken here but when my car was broken into in Bloomfield Connecticut I can tell you the cops didn’t rush out to the crime lab to solve the case and clap that criminal in irons.", ">In my country postman would call you by phone and if you aren't available to pick it up directly then they will come back at a later date\n\nthis isn't even remotely feasible in the majority of the US. we have hundreds of millions of people ordering tons of shit all the time. these postal trucks are dropping off thousands of packages a day. if you order a toothbrush, UPS/Fedex/LaserShip/whatever does not have the time to call you and make sure you are physically there to take it. frankly i think it's incredible they're able to get as much done as they do now.\n\nbesides, i wouldn't WANT them to only give me packages in person, what a pain in the ass. i'm not home a lot of the time, i would miss them 90% of the time and wouldn't be able to get my packages.", "These are obviously fake.", "how? The private neighbourhoods don’t want poor people.", "I mean I never said shotgun haha. \n\nI agree it’s not that broad but it’s the reason he’s avoiding anything that causes real damage. \n\nBest to not risk it. \n\nThe legal issue really involves what would count as something that’d actually count as damages. \n\nLet’s say it dumped paint everywhere. I think it becomes more likely then that he could get sued and lose. Now would one of the porch pirates risk that lawsuit given the legal risk they’d face for the theft? Probably not but maybe.", "seriously wtf is that person talking about?\n\nah yes, in my Eastern Bloc country where 8 people and a donkey live, they bring my bread right to my door and have me sign for it! yeah sounds great buddy, you have fun over there", "10% is probably generous lmao", "There is also a great deal of academic nepotism in hiring at NASA. I'm not saying they don't hire some great engineers and scientists, but if you know the right people you don't have to be that good.", "I mean you saw the condition of how some of the thieves were living. Wouldn't surprise me if it just doesn't compare to the smell they're used to living in.", "Yeah but this isn’t exactly a court setting with law enforcement offering the deal.", "Yeah, he gets cash instead of credit.", "Thats wild, that’s like suing a bank for putting exploding paint bombs in the money bags.", "I’d assume the police have different legal abilities than a private citizen.", "Dop[e](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/365/818/183.jpg) trick", "i think the more important thing people are missing is that having to be home to receive packages would be super fucking annoying for most people\n\ni would miss the majority of my packages bc i'm out doing things like work, gym, shopping, seeing friends, etc etc. my shit has never gotten stolen, and if it DID, they'll just replace it for free, who cares?", "why do people think this stuff is real? Yeah, like this guy has 10+ people stealing from his porch. His first video was even outed as fake as most of the \"thieves\" were paid actors.", "i mean i would watch this\n\nwhere is LiveLeak Mark Rober", "well YEAH that would obviously be 100% illegal", "If he blinds someone with paint in their eye he might be looking at lawsuits", "Because they’re not thieves— they’re actors. It’s all staged.", ">watching Youtube without Adblock/Sponsorblock\n\nwhy", "> we won't press charges, guaranteed\n\nLocal law enforcement/prosecutor is who decides to press charges. Once law enforcement becomes involved you don't get a say. \n\nHowever, they may or may not continue with proceedings if the victim doesn't agree to testify.", "“Maybe people who go to prison should have opportunities to better themselves so that they have some employment options besides being a wage slave or recidivism when they get out?”\n\n“Yeah, Reddit is just too soft on crime, yknow? The states only have 25% of all prisoners in the world, it’s pretty sad, really!”", "I mean there’s a reason I stated it might not be a slam dunk case. \n\nHowever yah in general you can’t damage peoples property even if they theoretically did something to deserve it. \n\nI think the key with the paint bombs is they tend to just mark the cash. They aren’t like rigged to go off to purposefully damage your car/house.", "I don't know, I don't think that matters. There are still a lot of laws about booby traps, for example. You can't go all Home Alone on your house, because somebody might get hurt, even if they're not supposed to be in your house in the first place. \n\n> the term “boobytrap” means any concealed or camouflaged device designed to cause bodily injury when triggered by any action of any unsuspecting person making contact with the device. \n\nA glitter bomb could easily fit that description. The fact that it's stolen might not matter, because you're intending for it to be stolen. You'd be in deep shit if you left a pipebomb on your front porch, for example. I'd say there's definitely a fine line between being annoying and actually causing harm. \n\nSo, I don't know, I could see it going either way. If somebody gets hurt, I could see the glitter bomber being held liable for that.", "exploiting the worker class. Pay the working class well under a living wage for 20 or 30 years, obviously the homeless population is gonna explode.", "I don't think they are fake. I think many of the people being interviewed are acting weird and funny on purpose so they get featured. People know that boring interviews with random people will not be aired, so they act up to get on the show. Many of the people are playing an exaggerated character to the camera for fun.", "No, that's the definition lol. When you blackmail someone for money with the threat of sharing nudies they are, \"agreeing,\" to give you the money, but under duress. Same with the threat of reporting a crime. That's cut and dry blackmail, and it's probably not what the creator of this content is doing in the first place.", "Sign up for YouTube premium", "I don't think they are fake. I think many of the people being interviewed are acting weird and funny on purpose so they get featured. People know that boring interviews with random people will not be aired, so they act up to get on the show. Many of the people are playing an exaggerated character to the camera for fun.", "Blackmail or extortion is the threat of an illegal or unlawful action.", "they already get a living wage.", "People who steal packages are disposable. As long as the theoretical crash doesn't hurt anyone else, nothing of value was lost. Except maybe the car.", "There's lots of things that are legal under certain circumstances but not others.", "I 100% only know about cash paint bombs from movies, and they always explode when they open the bag. So I do not know how they actually work lol.", "lol", "So why dont they do this in every other interview? You're not giving the guy enough credit for getting people to open up to him", "The police can't do that, only a judge. A judge is allowed to adjust sentences for good behavior. A judge can do things an ordinary citizen cannot.\n\nIf they knowingly did something illegal, then they can be arrested either way yes, but you can't use that for your personal gain. You definitely are at risk of blackmail charges if you say \"Do what I want or I'll tell the police about your crimes.\"", "This comment sums up everything that’s wrong with the American justice and legal system. \n\nIncluding the concept of making poor people pay out their life savings on bail. Other countries, not a single penny changes hands - bail is entirely down to whether they can be safely allowed to roam freely (both with respect to flight risk, and risk to the public) and with bail being the default.", "A lawsuit is not. Criminal charges are usually.", "Nobody said anything about average thieves. They just said it was \"very hard\" which is absolutely untrue.", "Still doesn't create an equivalence. You hang around with some homeless people, not all or most of them. You hang around a subset of people who are both homeless and criminals. \n\nAs someone who was formerly homeless and who works with homeless people daily, I can assure you that your subjective view is not representative of the majority. \n\nWhether or not someone has a home should not be used to classify them as criminals.", "What? Conditioning reporting the crime upon the perpetrator giving you a license to use their likeness is, like, textbook extortion.", "I got my car window broken in and my laptop bag was stolen, which I understand, laptop bag = money.\n\nHowever I was using it for textbooks cause my backpack strap broke the day before... Found the bag a block away.", "Haha, well I think in reality these days they dont really exist anymore. A google search actually reveals there have been lawsuits in the past over them. Although most of those seem to be where the bank accidentally gave them to someone and it harmed them.\n\nThey typically were triggered by leaving the bank. IE when you crossed the doors theyd go off, they werent typically rigged to opening the bag later.", "> offer them a chunk of money to sign a release\n\nProbable.\n\n> as well as some strong worded 'we won't press charges, guaranteed' kind of stuff\n\nLikely to be criminal extortion and RICO violations. Definitely do not do this.", "https://youtu.be/WyQh1Sg9tec\n\nThat's the best fat wife I've seen in four or five years!", "I remember that episode. Fun stuff.\n\nOf course, the problem as always is context and being subjective. If we had the technology to objectively scan people's minds and determine their actual intent and subsequent level of remorse, for example.", "True story. Cops make less than most of that subreddit.", "I had that same thought after seeing how underwhelming the reactions to the fart spray usually are. And literally every video I see of someone getting a whiff of Surströmming finds themselves in extreme discomfort. Then I remembered I have a fish allergy, which isn't all too uncommon, so I'm sure there is some legal risk involved there. Even if they're a slimy package thief, you wouldn't want someone to go into anaphylactic shock by getting Surströmming juice sprayed on or around them.", "I just cant understand the amount of people who steal packages. Just dont be an asshole. It is a very low bar to clear. And yet", "Yeah it is blackmail as well. However, when the state does it, it's called a plea deal", "In the bay area there are sometimes people that sit in the public parking lots in their car and wait for you to leave and then they call somebody to smash your shit. ", "And they need to find a way to make money from their content.", "Ive never debated the legality what Rober is doing.", "That’s not how law works. You’re using like Skyrim logic. If you’re trying to destroy someone else’s property, it doesn’t matter if they’ve broken the law some other way.", "Let's just execute shoplifters. Anyone object? Well, you're too soft on crime.", "A few things.\n\nFirst off, reread what I wrote and note that I never said homeless individuals don't have phones, or access to the internet.\n\nSecondly, [while bussing of the homeless is certainly an issue,](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study) it doesn't do much to prove your point when your link is a South Park clip.\n\nThird, most homeless people who were bussed didn't choose cities based on the homeless services those cities provided. They generally left cities on the West Coast (particularly California) and moved back to towns where they had personal connections like friends or family (see link above.)", "cool story", "Your comment made me thirsty. I'll just take a drink from my water bottle from LTT store .com wink wink nudge nudge", "I would beat the everloving shit out of someone who stole packages from me like that.", "That’s your response? Not proving him wrong or offering data?", "This is becoming a xmas tradition I really enjoy every year", "Yeah I don't know. I absolutely get what your saying. But I just don't know if I would still point blame at the designer and the one who left it out for it to be stolen. The theif makes the decision to steal it in the first place, and they also make the decision to open it while driving, which is a distraction that could cause an accident whether or not it sprays glitter. \n\nJust playing devils advocate here, but what if I left a box on my porch that actually contains a legit item and I want a porch pirate to take it because I'm feeling generous. But they still decide to open it while driving and are distracted and hit someone. Who would be at fault then? Would you still say the person who left the legit package for someone to take it? Or the person who decided to open it while driving?\n\n Or what if they aren't even a theif. I leave a sign that says free homepods, and someone who takes one hits someone while trying to open it while driving.\n\nBut I guess even while typing this I have an argument against myself. What if the package that was taken had an explosive in it. And it blew up and injured an innocent person. Then yeah, I would blame the person who made the device. And probably more so than the person who stole it. \n\n\nSo I guess in summary, I have no idea who I'd blame. Lol.", "You know they get the bail money back if they the person doesn’t violate the terms of the bail, right? Nobody is losing their life savings on bail, unless maybe if the person they’re bailing out flees", "What makes you say that? I’m going to be super annoyed if I find out this is actually all fake…", "Reddit’s got this thing where they think things are only cool if done ONLY for the passion. If money gets involved they think it’s some kind of moral quandary. They would truly rather things not exist at all than have someone get rewarded for their work financially.", "I commend you for letting the prank go on that long. I would have felt bad and caved, lol.", "checks calendar. oh hi mark.", "Except for the fact that intent and context matters when determining extortion or blackmail... \n\nBut good job Columbo, you've unearthed the piece if the puzzle that's going to blow this case wide open.", "I am a fan of Mark, but I really hate these videos. Just does not seem right. Someone is going to get hurt or worse eventually.", "And what if they can’t afford bail?\n\nWhat if they can but it puts them into incredible hardship and poverty? The comment even mentioned children.\n\nRemember that anyone being granted bail is, by the fact they haven’t gone through a trial yet, innocent. Withholding bail or placing conditions on it in the UK is only ever used where necessary to keep the public safe or ensure justice is carried out. Why should the defendant’s ability to pay have anything to do with anything?", "I wish these were a bit more “mean” to the thieves. Let the fart spray continually until it’s out. Let the car horn go non stop. Instead of the speaker playing some Home Alone clips, have it shout “I stole this, I’m a package thief”. Just like the fart spray, have it endlessly fire some spray paint.", "Fuck that, blur them out and charge them. Don't make deals with these pieces of shit.", "It's not so much it being a misdemeanor that matters as much as it is that stores, police, and the DA don't all want to go through the effort of prosecuting misdemeanors when the maximum penalty for repeat offenders is putting someone away for a few months.\n\nFor example: [In San Francisco, the number of shopliftings being reported dropped from 647 to 266 after they elected a literal radical-communist DA who opted to suddenly not charge the majority of even the comparatively few reported crimes.](https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/data-shows-chesa-boudin-prosecutes-fewer-shoplifters-than-predecessor/) (Larcenies did drop nationwide a bit in 2020, but no where near as much as they stopped being reported in California.)", "What about the car the thief crashed into?", "The weird thing about this is you’re okay with ending someone’s life because they stole something. \n\nYou walk out with the bank’s pen? Security guard should get to dump his mag into you. \n\nLittle kid is shoplifting? Kid, meet Glock. \n\nFair is fair.", "What’s stopping you?", "Ah, the clarion call of those who have been raised to fear, fear, fear the other. And then told which others, specifically, to fear. What a coincidence.", "I don't think everyone is faking it, but some of the people are. Most of the people in the recent talladega video feel like they are playing to the camera. I am pretty skeptical of anything crazy said by normal looking people at normal events. Things like the flat earth conference or anti vax really, where large numbers of crazy people will go to, are probably more real", "It worked for Don Jr though. Mueller chose not to charge him for meeting with a Russian spy to violate campaign finance laws because he said Jr didn’t know that what he was doing is illegal.\n\n[source](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna995816)", "San Francisco Chronicle reported [753% increase in auto burglaries](https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-car-break-ins-tourism-16275241.php) in June.\n\n[In 2014, California adopted Proposition 47, which made thefts of $950 or less a misdemeanor. Once people realized that they were unlikely to be arrested or prosecuted for stealing below $1,000, they, of course, responded to the incentive.](https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/mobs-of-looters-are-grabbing-goods-in-california-thanks-to-downgraded-shoplifting-laws/)", "I never claimed any of that. I said \"I've parked my cars in San Francisco.\"", "As much as I like to see glitter explode on these jerks I'm just hoping that Mark Rober is using eco-friendly glitter. Especially since standard glitter is a micro-plastic that will be in our oceans like forever and is generally all around no bueno for the earth. I only say this because Mark Rober should be setting an example as he's a #TeamSeas founder!\n\nEdit- just re-watched- he uses biodegradable glitter! Super duper- good job Mark R.", "It wasn’t even Joe Horn’s house that was getting burglarized. It was his neighbor’s house.", "Most people know this by now, but it’s not the courts job to protect you, nor is it the police’s. You joke, but the American justice system is much more broken than this and wasn’t made to operate on “logic.” Otherwise you wouldn’t see weed dealers getting more time than some people who’ve committed much more heinous crimes.", "Full disclosure, I didn't respond to your comment with the intention to argue on a topic I'm not especially well informed about. I was responding because I've had people raise the same point in discussions and genuinely believe that unhoused individuals with iphones were faking it because of the iPhone. Wasn't necessarily trying to argue with you, however I felt like it was necessary to point out that a lot of the unhoused are without a long term living situation for a multitude of reasons and are often normal people.\n\nYour source is valid, and the reason I used the south park clip was simply because it was relevant and funny.", "Yes, if not properly phrased that can be considered extortion; quid pro quo.\n\nSame thing on these predator catcher web sites, when they say \"talk with us on camera and we won’t call the cops\". That could also be categorized as extortion/blackmail.\n\nWhat’s so disgusting about these package thieves is that their homes frequently appear quite affluent, with couples, and families in on the theft, or attempting to use stolen merchandise. These people are not wealthy, but certainly live decently and many are so overweight, you know they are not starving. Yet they will go out and steal your things, right off your front steps.\n\nAs I said - disgusting!", "yeah like listen to any podcast and they have ad reads that are about 50% of the episode. podcast is free to listen to. this video is free to watch. whats the big d?", "I had sex with Earth Kitt in an airplane bathroom", "Yeah, the intent to do what?\n\nThe needed intent is an intent for the threat to work. If you threaten to report someone to police unless he gives you permission to use his face in your video when they wouldn't otherwise, that's extortion. You have the needed intent.\n\nYou're saying that you think Mark Rober consulted with his lawyer who told him to threaten people with reporting them to the police unless they gave him his likeness but that he didn't think threatening to report them to the police would affect their decision?\n\nThere's no need to be snarky. I'm literally a lawyer. I know about intent, but that's the stupidest thing to bring up possible. It's an obvious, obvious given that if you did this, you would have the needed intent no matter how much you protest because there's no other reason to condition, or even mention, reporting the crime to the police.", "The legal consequences to do this for real are huge though. Think about someone who ends up with a scratched cornea from glitter in their eye, or crashes their car because of opening one of these boxes.\n\nNo way he's doing this for real.", "Yeah, that was way more than it was worth. Robber was getting away with murder with that price, but he still wanted more", "Could be that their home already smells like shit?", "\"Thanks for the F shack\"", "Oh noooo", "If that dude had crashed his car after opening the bomb while driving and killed a few people.. \n\nThat would have really sucked.", "> Sure, but if I boobytrap my front door and someone breaks in, im still liable for harm it causes them even though I didnt make them come through the door.\n\nThis, before the charging mat you could most likely say that it was a prank for your friend. But now that it charges and hides itself, it is 100% a boobytrap.", "The VAST majority of people finding themselves needing bond don't have the assets to put up bond. What they do have are friends and relatives who can come together and get the 10% of that bond amount and take it to a Bondsman.", "Mark's glitter bomb videos are my favorite thing about Christmas, but it sadly also reinvigorates my hatred for people. The older I get, the more I want to just stay inside my house unless I have to go to work and just focus on my hobbies that bring me joy.", "And that's what the legal system is for. It shouldn't be up to random people to determine the severity of punishments.", "You forget the relationship between judges and police. Police initiate a case with a crime and the investigation of it. Part of the case is the accused crimes, police can choose which crimes that they want to pursue. They then hand it to the Judge who presides over the court battle and subsequent sentencing before a jury. The judge will see what is placed before them by the police, and the police can influence how the judge and jury perceives the evidence.\n\nFor example there is a case where someone has been killed, depending on the intent and circumstances it can be ruled as varying degrees of murder or accidental homicide. Each of these sentences has their varying levels of punishment with first degree murder as the highest level of punishment and accidental homicide being a lower and more lenient punishment. If a police prosecutor can convince a judge and jury that it was intentional murder then the accused will be locked away for over 20 years. However this aggressive accusation takes a similarly aggressive level of evidence. It would be far easier to pursue an aggravated manslaughter charge, especially if they can convince the accused to say as much, even easier when dangling the scarier charge above the head of the accused.\n\n\nSo yes, police do influence plea deals, not judges", "I am of the opinion that a person who would create hundreds of dollars of property damage to steal and sell some item at a fraction of its price would not have access to an OBS tool, and I feel like that's who we're talking about here.\n\nBut yeah, it seems like in some places making your car easier to steal is the price you pay that you don't get your car broken into.", "Por que no los dos\n\nNothing breeds assholes like poverty and broken families", "I'm pretty sure the booby trap has to be made intentionally to cause harm for that to apply though. Intent is often a huge difference in these kinds of things, and that booby trap is very clearly intended to be an inconvenience, or at worse, a fright, not something to cause actual harm.", "You're a freak", "My wife and I visited her friend in San Francisco some years ago. We landed, rented a car, and met her out at a bar since we were staying at her house for the weekend. Later that night, we came back to a smashed window. Thankfully we received advice to keep things out of sight, so nothing was missing. We parked near what we thought was a busy enough intersection but I guess that doesn't matter judging by this video. We had our luggage with my wife's medication in the trunk, but all of it was miraculously untouched. I strongly suggest checking into wherever you're staying and putting EVERYTHING in a safe spot.\n\nThe car rental place didn't bat an eye when we brought it to return. Apparently it's that prevalent.", "As an editor, I assure you that \"fame and attention\" is not part of the job description.", ">the term “boobytrap” means any concealed or camouflaged device designed to cause bodily injury when triggered by any action of any unsuspecting person making contact with the device.\n\nI think that's the key part of this. Any lawyer that bases their whole case around a device that sprays glitter being \"designed to cause bodily injury\" is never going to be taken seriously in legal circles again.", "Do you work in the legal field? Police give their evidence to the DA, not the judge. The DA negotiates with the accused and then gives his recommendation to the judge, who has a choice to accept it or not. I've never seen police have much involvement in a case other than showing up to court to testify when told to. I've certainly never seen police have any involvement in negotiating a plea deal. At best, they'll advise them that if they cooperate, it'll look good to the judge, but I've never heard of them investigating more or less, other than a confession makes other evidence a lot less important.\n\nRegardless, police and the courts are not doing it for personal gain. If you tell people to grant you personally a license for something for your personal gain or else you'll tell police, that sounds really illegal to me.", "I think you might be underestimating how \"normal\" Talladega is lol. People love an excuse to tailgate and get buck wild and do stupid shit, and as a southerner myself, that's especially true.", "That makes some sense. I'm sure a lot of these people are playing it up.", "I remember going there almost nearly two decades ago and getting my car broken into and they stole a bunch of CD's. Honestly wasn't even that mad about it. What really irked me was they took the time to judge my music taste and left the ones they didn't like on the seat.", "I never really took the actions of the thief I was just weighing the actions in a vacuum. This stuff can be pretty subjective though and I would just see it as one morally bad action from the thiefs side and unethical from the side that has planted boxes with the express purpose of threatening people for Youtube views.\n\nHow it fits into Justice and Law is probably an entirely different scale but until a Lawyer can come and dispel some of what is being said here then it is really hard to say as I'm erring on the side of not only: This video is fake but the interview and the talk of lawyers threatening the people being fake but that is a whole nother argument.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>I just realized that it should be more than fair to say \"pay me or I report you to the cops\"\n\nThis is the textbook definition of legal extortion especially when you set up the boxes as traps. Unless you meant as in \"Pay me for the damages/item\".", "Fellow attorney here. Thanks for fighting the good fight on this thread and giving accurate information. It’s concerning to me how others in this thread can be so wrong while being so confident.", "What is this magical “insurance” you’re referring too????\n\nIf I buy a used Flat Screen and have it in my back seat, or pretty much any retail item whatsoever, used or new, there is no “insurance” on it…? Lol\n\nReddit is officially full of 9 year olds…", "Our justice system is insanely overloaded. End the war on drugs, streamline how we deal with misdemeanors and expand the judiciary with additional judges, prosecutors, and public defenders. Then prosecutors can start caring about smash and grabs again.", "You didn't explicitly mention that but it's the most common reference in this thread because something like this has no precedent to work with.", "Exploding bomb blurred out in the video, I think so.", "For some reason during this year's video i kept thinking what if the glitter gets on somebody's eyes?\nI don't think we have many of these videos left. Someone is bound to get hurt.", "I remember seeing the 1st and 2nd version of the glitter bomb. I might have to go back to watch the version 3 video to see what happened on there.", ">\tI’ve come to realize that there is a significant population that would gladly lynch people given the chance.\n\nNo, no you haven’t…\n\nGet off social media there Alex Jones", "That was like, what? Four years ago?", "I know it's a mix of people that steal shit but the people that many do probably have way smellier homes and the fart spray would be a better scent.", "Yet you have people in here arguing the exact opposite \n\nWe can’t have it both ways ppl 🤦‍♂️ \n\nNext you liberal minded ppl are going to be saying “hey this guy put a pistol to my wife’s head, but I had enough faith in my police department to make sure he got justi…..oh shit there goes her brains….”", "I get what you mean but I was thinking much less deadly. \n\nLike you in general can’t rig your house to hurt an intruder. \n\nSame thing I’d he were to rig this glitter bomb to hurt someone. \n\nNow damage property obviously the line gets blurrier.", "And also do that before you reach your destination. If the thieves see you put shit in your car and leave, they'll just break in and pop the trunk.", "Am I the only one that feels bad for those people?\nYeah they stole and they \"got it coming\", but they are all obviously lower income/class people. Probably none of them would stolen anything if they were financially well...\nThis just leaves a very bitter aftertaste.", "But I don’t want glitter and fart spray in my car", "Maybe I'm too suspicious. After all, I don't live where he lives.\n\nBut even including friends & families's homes to use as \"bait locations\", doesn't it seem a bit far fetched to be able to do 4 videos about the topic?\n\nBut hey, even if it's fully or partly fake, there's no harm in enjoying it I suppose.", "Werent these proved to be fake awhile ago?", "I don't think it's a lack of understanding, it's that it siginficantly lowers the quality of the content and is super annoying.", "I mean, it's not. I replied to the comment that said \"It's very hard to steal a modern car without the keys,\" directly addressing it because it is false. The other context was not relevant to his statement.\n\nCertainly, the sort of idiot who will bash in a $450 side window in order to steal a (literally useless, systematically programmed radio that will only work with the ECU of the host vehicle) or some change in a cup holder is not the type of person who will use an OBD override to steal a luxury sports car. But that's not what I'm talking about. I was literally just addressing the point that the person made.", "what if my car is a piece of junk and literally filled with trash and unlocked do you think they'd bother breaking a window to dig through a mountain of old fast food bags and bottles", "holy shit that's amazing", "It's payback for 50 years of constant migration into California, increasing the population by 140%. Transplants from Texas, Oregon, Arizona and mid west over-populated the state, drove housing up, brought regressive politics, and offered little to our industries. Yes, go on and move back to hogtown Texas.\n\nPing me in 40 years when the scales have leveled.", "They didn't decriminalize it. They reclassified it as a misdemeanor. Stop watching Prager U. It's bad for your brain.", "Speculative investors drive the entire problem.", "Where do you draw the line? We’ve established stealing is worthy of being shot so when don’t you shoot? Why have a gun to shoot thieves if you’re not going to shoot thieves? \n\nOr is it just different when it’s YOUR stuff?\n\nEdit: better yet, what if you get shot by someone who thinks you’re stealing something but you’re not? I guess it’s okay because they felt threatened right?", "The elected representatives. So the people who vote those people in. The city council is absolute trash.", "Got any credible sources you can share with us about police not investigating?", "At least the meth infested rural communities don't sell themselves as being better and more enlightened than everyone else while basically running a dystopian society out of a movie and ignoring the squalor and crime infesting the city.", "I can see both sides of it. On one hand, yes people should be rewarded for making good content people like. But on the other, it is frustrating to be constantly advertised to in some form or fashion. Everywhere you look, there’s some creator or company trying to cram their merch down your throat. There’s nothing wrong with hobbies turning into businesses but it’s also annoying that almost everything has become monetized to some extent now.", "they are thieves. \n\nwould be far better to use something more aggressive, something that will leave a far longer lasting effect on the criminals. \n\ni certainly hope the creator of these things considers something in the future that would do a bit more to deter criminals, maybe think along a bit more devious and harmful to the thieves belongings when they open these packages.", "I'd much rather hear a short pitch for something that benefits the creator directly than a number of unskippable ads for Tik Tok or shampoo for my balls.", "hot tip: there are more than millions of people in the world.\n\nEven the most popular glitter bomb video only has 87 million views. Which is a lot of views but thats not even close to the population of the USA. Even if you only include the population of adults in a good enough physical condition to be a porch pirate. It's not even close.\n\nTHEN consider that most of those 87M views aren't even from people living in the USA.... and aren't even necessarily all unique viewers either.", "Did you hear one of the interactions was clearly between a kid and parent... Fucking disgusting", "It’s really not annoying at all, I think it’s cool they have custom merchandise. I think it’s awesome that these video platforms can be mediums for real small businesses. They’re totally independent.\n\nI’m not usually interested in what they’re selling but I just skip over it with no resentment whatsoever.", "Booby Traps are illegal in most places in the US, meaning you can't trick someone into getting harmed, even if they are harmed by a Booby Trap only meant to harm those who are actively committing a crime\n\nBeing embarrassed and called out online isn't the same as being Harmed i guess\n\nAnd regards to the edit, cops and lawyers do it to us so wtf lol", "Looks great!", "I wish the police chatter would come on quicker so i can see them squirm. But I think the last versions proved the box gets destroyed more often and you don't get much footage from it all.", "We should or at least the implied threat should be there if they don't comply the problem is we have a cast-based system in this country a tiered society thieves are below us on the tear bosses and police and the government are above us on the tier meaning they kill us not the other way around", "I am a big fan of the idea, huge opponent of the execution. The speaker should blare out something like \"I AM A PACKAGE THIEF, MY PARENTS SHOULD BE DISAPPOINTED, I AM A DRAIN ON MY COMMUNITY\". Having glitter go off doesn't teach these people a lesson, in fact a few people laughed about it, meaning what? That they think it might even be more fun to steal packages?\n\nHowever, I am glad that he will be partnering up with the police next year. That's the biggest way to show these losers that there are repercussions to their actions. Maybe I am a piece of shit as well, but I want these people to feel pain for what they are doing. Sure little Johnny might not be able to open his toy that was stolen this year, but what happens when it's life saving medication or equipment people depend on? Prescription deliveries are more and more common now a days, and a lot of older folks don't have ways to make it to pharmacies. How often does that happen? Who knows. But if it takes one life, it happens entirely too much.", "And had to face their God who eventually elected to allow them to leave", "There's also the fact that if he caused real property damage that he'd be liable, even if it was a stolen package. If anyone opened the package in their car and then caused an accident, Mark could potentially be held liable, so he has to keep it relatively toned down to avoid legal responsibility.", "Lose the stupid glitter and put those dye packs that banks use and spray those jerks. A nice permanent orange color. Then call the police.", "Ignorance is always a defense for the law our system has rigged itself to make itself immune to reason and logic and has brainwashed you into a green to it\n\nIt's literally not possible to comply with a law you are unaware of that was the entire damn point of the episode well half of it", "That's not ignorant of the law that's selective enforcement and equally nasty but different kind of problem laws for thee but not for me", "He is probably used to the smell of shit considering he is huge pile of waste himself. Waste of life that is.", "Not fat shaming in the least but, from the looks of most of these thieves they are not stealing to feed their families.", "Literally no one is calling for the execution of shoplifters. That's hyperbolic. Many are however calling for the abolishment of the police in general, a notion just as absurd and yet not the least bit inaccurate. We abolished the entire mental health apparatus in the 1950's. That worked out great. Let's make the same mistake again but bigger this time. I don't need hyperbole to make my points. The opposing arguments are ridiculous enough on their own.", "Yeah that was what I was thinking about too. I've heard stories of theif suing homeowners for being injured while breaking in. I just can't fathom how that can even be a case.", "That's not exactly a fair statement I will never agree with these I will never justify with these do I will never sympathize with what they do but they are not affluent the nice things they have are probably stolen\n\nAnd being overweight doesn't mean anything our country and it's food system or network or whatever you want to call it is rigged so the worst foods are the cheapest foods and those foods are also the ones that make you fat\n\nSo poor people tend to be heavier of course ultra poor people who actually don't have enough food don't tend to be overweight but one of the ways they keep the surf in line is to make sure people have food that's why food stamps are one of the easiest things to get because you want to revolt really fast? Starve the people and you'll have a revolt really fast", "The rest of us have to be wage slaves. What makes you so special that you get to steal what little I've earned just because you don't want to be one. \n\nIt's a fairly common notion overseas that Americans are generally shit people. Maybe that has something to do with the high incarceration rate.", "But Mueller specifically said he didn’t prosecute because it would be difficult to prove that Don jr knew he was breaking the law. \n\nI agree that it’s an issue of selective enforcement but it’s weird to see the DOJ clearly say they’re letting someone off because they’re ignorant of the law", "passive progressivism", "Not spraying outside, on people. Just on the box.\n\nYou could probably just spray the pepper spray inside and cover it with the lid, and it would have the same effect :D", "Worse I have food\n\nPoint is you are making a statement from the perspective of somebody already on meth\n\nI am making the correct statement in such why would somebody get on meth in the first place?\n\nIf you corrected the system right now you obviously would still have a problem with all the people currently addicted to drugs that's a different problem with different solutions reducing poverty will reduce the number of people who ever tried drugs because you will reduce need and you will reduce crime", "I agree with you. The legal system is a more painful experience for people without money", "What a roundabout way of saying you can't relate to victims. Must be all that time spent in that ivory tower.", "Seth Rogan says you just got to expect that sort of thing in big cities.", "You must be new here.", "That's not how it works and I really don't care about their lives when they chose to take my stuff and then disobey my command to stop\n\nAll they have to do is not steal and then they don't die that's like calling somebody sick for having you know poisonous plant in their garden and someone crashes through their protected garden trying to steal a plant and ends up dying on it and that it's somehow my fault? Or someone getting into the lion exhibit that is decently protected and it's somehow disease fault that person died from a lion trying to eat\n\nStealing is partial murder I don't care how silly that sounds to you you're an idiot if you don't understand it after I explain it take for example my camera $1,700 accounting for taxes and cost of living on income we're talking two years of my life to buy that camera I had to give up two years of my life to buy that camera if you steal that camera that is no different whatsoever metaphorically from murdering me for those two years because those two years of work are now gone as if they never existed but worse I actually did them and have nothing to show for them now\n\nI am tired of idiots on the internet saying you consider your stuff worth more than their life when the reality is they consider their life to be worth less than my stuff because they're the ones that chose to take my stuff they're the ones that could have chosen to simply not take what doesn't belong to them they're the ones who could have chosen to comply when I order them to put it down and put themselves on the ground with their hands behind their head\n\nThey chose to break into my place they chose to take my stuff they chose to run they chose to disobey my orders they chose to be shot they chose to forfeit their life and if you see it any other way you are the twisted defective messed up s*** human being not me\n\nThe only exception to this that I will ever accept is hunger I would never ever use lethal Force against somebody stealing to feed themselves stealing food I see you stealing something at a store I'm going to stop you I'm going to call security I see you stealing a loaf of bread I'm looking the other way\n\nHunger is an unstoppable natural imperative you eat or you die so essentially they have to choose between forfeiting their life or forfeiting their life and that's not a tenable choice\n\nAnything else however? Not acceptable no exceptions end of discussion if you don't want to die don't steal my stuff because I have a shotgun and if I catch you stealing my stuff I'm going to point that shotgun at you and I'm going to order you to put my stuff down and if you don't I'm going to plug you full of lead although I don't think they use lead anymore in bullets or shot\n\nNow there's a pretty good chance you're going to survive that bird shot but you're not going to have a fun time of it", "You could clearly hear somebody honk during the video. On account of being blasted by glitter, fart spray, and a car horn, the thief was clearly distracted enough to nearly cause an accident.", "And even if there was insurance you're telling me that I have to pay for protection from thieves! Make the thieves pay for the insurance", "\n‘a hidden device that is meant as a joke to surprise somebody, for example an object placed above a door so that it will fall on the first person who opens the door’ is still on that dictionary definition.\n\nAnd if we’re arguing about how language can evolve then why are you so set on a very specifically strict usage of a term?", "can someone fill me in on why a spring with a trigger/pin would not have worked to lift the lid?", "Because language evolves, but how something is defined in the context of laws is very strict.", "I don't think they are the thief obviously does you see I consider my life to be more valuable than my possessions I consider my life to be more valuable than your possessions so I'm not going to try to take your possessions from you because I value my life more than your possessions\n\nThe thief on the other hand is obviously mentally retarded or something because he clearly values my possessions more than his own life", "A fair point. I apologize if my tone was overly hostile. My chief intention was to reinforce that your point about phones is absolutely correct. It is definitely possible for a homeless person in the modern age to have internet access via smartphone.\n\nI just find the idea that homeless people are flocking to certain cities because they have better homeless shelters absurd. I think most people who are homeless are spending their time and resources trying to escape that situation entirely. If given a choice, they will move to where they have the most support to make that possible (usually near friends and family.) Very few are going to flock to a city where they don't know anyone just because it provides the \"best experience\" for being homeless.", "‘Booby trap device means any device, or substance designed to surreptitiously or covertly take life, endanger life or destroy or damage property’\n\nIs in the legal definition of a booby trap device, the ‘damage property’ section is the one the glitter bomb could most easily fall foul of and ‘endanger life’ is the one that people have mentioned as a specific risk with regards to driving and opening the device.", "He mentioned his lawyer at the beginning of the video; so I would imagine that the lawyer has instructed him on a way to negotiate that deal, without it being blackmail.", "Considering the huge liability, how could these not be staged? I really want to believe", "Did you just call somebody out for judging someone and then judge them yourself.", "[The guy even sounded like Key in the sketch titled 'Pawn Shop'](https://youtu.be/WqBZVlgORbY)", "Ah, I found you, I agree.\n\nI feel like he's no longer teaching thieves a lesson, but instead taking advantage of poor people. Dude has hundreds of millions of views, pumps his merch and his \"engineering skills\" course is $250 USD. He's clearly incentivised by algorithm to keep making these videos. \n\nMark your experiment has exposed the issue is not that porch pirates steal, it's not that people leave parcels out to get stolen, it's that poor people are desperate enough to take a risk on stealing. Maybe the solution here isn't to bedazzle them with glitter and spray them with fart spray, but to reach out to these communities, offer them the technology to learn from, and your engineering courses for free so they don't need to steal.", "$200? What kind of a f** joke are you talking about my camera was $1,700 and that was used and that's not including the lens\n\nMy f** phone cost more than $200\n\nAnd you're missing the point you always intentionally miss the point you weirdos on the internet always intentionally missed the point you distort reality for your own point we call it an rdf reality distortion field\n\nIt's not about how I value my stuff my actions are dictated by how I value stuff I consider my life to be worth more than your stuff so I am not going to throw away or forfeit my life in an attempt to take your stuff because I value my life more than your stuff\n\nIf you try to steal my stuff you clearly value your life less than you value my stuff because you know I'm going to kill you if you don't comply with my orders so you come into my house knowing I'm going to kill you if you don't comply with my orders and you come into my house to take my stuff knowing you are going to disobey my orders\n\nThis tells me that you very clearly value my stuff more than your life that's a you problem if you don't want to lose your life don't try to take my stuff\n\nthis is not about the value of my stuff relative to your life it's the value of my stuff relative to my life and what I gave up in my life to get that stuff the stuff I have literally represents my life because it took my entire life to get that stuff I had to work thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hours to get that stuff I don't care if it's a $5 m******** watch or a $4,000 camera you have a choice leave my stuff alone and keep your life or take my stuff and risk your life\n\nAbsolutely no part of that has anything to do with me it is all a choice on your part you chose to break into my house or car you chose to take my stuff you chose to forfeit your life for my possessions those are all choices you made I am simply acting on your choices\n\nIt's very simple don't try to take my stuff and you won't have to forfeit your life for my stuff\n\nThis is not complicated this is not rocket science and I'm going to correct you every single time you attempt to flip the responsibility here because you are wrong you are the one who is forfeiting your life if you attempt to steal my stuff you are the one who values your life less than the value of my stuff because I am going to take your life if you don't comply\n\nUnless of course you can give me an alternative method to force you to comply and put my stuff down? Please by all means give me a viable alternative that does not cost me anything give me an alternative to lethal Force that results in exactly this end result no exceptions no negotiation no arguing you don't get to change the rules the end result you must provide to me is that you comply and put my stuff down or you don't steal my stuff in the first place your budget limit is the cost of two bullets or two shotgun rounds\n\nGive me an alternative to shooting you? You are a thief you are in my house I am standing there looking at you holding my possessions in your hands right now right here under those conditions you provide me with an alternative to shooting you full of holes that results in you putting my stuff down right now and whatever alternative you come up with cannot cost more than the rounds I'm going to use to kill you and it cannot increase my danger so no switching to swords or baseball bats or hand-to-hand combat\n\nSo put up or shut up give me an option?", "Of course. It’s pretty wild seeing the apartments/homes people build out inside Sprinter vans. Definitely check it out if you get a chance.", "I think that’s just an active symptom when you have it. My FIL got a mild case, lost his taste and smelling for a bit, but I’m pretty sure it’s back. He hasn’t complained of any long term effects but there is scaring on his lungs.", "Considering the low chance of prosecution and what would likely be an unsympathetic jury if it were, and the large amount of money each of these videos make....", "No lawyer would ever condone mentioning reporting the crime to the police anywhere near asking for something. That's why I'm saying there's no way reporting the crime to the police had anything to do getting their consent. Lawyers can't just make something not a crime. They advise you how not to commit a crime.", "I don't give a fuck if you're rich or poor, I am not taking your stuff.\n\nYOU worked for it, not me. Stealing other peoples stuff is wrong, flat.\n\nIf you need something, ask. But the only thing you'll NEED is shelter, food, drink, and resources (working centres, library, etc) to get you on your feet, not a ring doorbell or beats headphones.", "Yep. They scope out tourists in Dolores park, too. Smash and grab right in front of everyone.", "No. The first video had an incident where friends of one of the volunteers he had put these on their porch decided to open it themselves I guess because they wanted to be in the Video. But he removed those clips after finding out and AFAIK nobody has any other proof that these are fake", "“Sign the release and return our property, and this ends right here and now.”\n\nCan’t argue that’s blackmail or extortion. I’ve made my demands and you see the implications of accepting them.", "If the law said I could not shoot. I would disagree with the law\n\nWhat a disgusting thing to do to suggest how much of a sicko do you have to be to side with thieves stealing people's stuff", "Meh a little glitter and a bad smell. Not a big deal really, but some of these people in these comments saying he should make it into like a weapon or something...", "It has potential to cause a car crash, or the glitter cause eye damage", "I'm sorry you're just an idiot", "You think you would have the ability to read what I said but clearly you don't", "When I went to Hawaii we saw broken car windows pretty much everywhere we stopped.", "In this case though building homeless shelters in one of the most expensive areas in the world doesn't make much sense to me. For the same money you could build ten shelters elsewhere.", "Firstly he has volunteers put them on their porches in different cities\n\nAnd the first video wasn't \"outed as fake\", friends of one of the volunteers decided to stage their own reaction I guess because they wanted to be in the Video. He didn't know at the time but then removed the two total clips affected. I don't think anyone has any other proof that it's fake", "Please enlighten us with the evidence you used to reach this conclusion", "It's just a smart speaker like Alexa or Google Home. Though Apple tried to put more emphasis on sound quality for music", "Like I said laws for thee not for me", "Huh, well that would be disappointing. Got any proof", "Your point. He he still disingenuous as hell and I don't understand you people that actively defend liars", "Like less than a minute total of it, and was edited out...", "I mean from time to time, yeah, but reliably in a given location in broad daylight seems a little next level.", "Have you ever seen such production value centered on criminals? \n\nThe blurred faces, the camera angles etc. It just makes me suspicious that all or some of it isnt genuine.", "I don't see the glitter bomb being any more liable of \"endangering life\" than doing anything else while trying to drive. Legally, cell phone companies aren't held liable when someone crashes while texting and I don't see any more legal danger here. The box isn't interfering with the function of the car, and it doesn't go off unless it's opened meaning the driver had to be interacting with it while driving. This cleary, to me, means that the fault is on the driver for being distracted and opening the package while driving. \n\nAs for damaging property. There could be a case potential case made for that, but none of the product used in the glitter bomb represent any permanent or substantial damage. I really don't see the glitter bomb being any more liable for being a \"booby trap\" than a water ballon suspended above a door, fake ink, or any other joke item that is sold every single day in the US.", "Amazing!", "No you came across really well actually. Everything is well said and I hadn't even previously thought through where people without houses would elect to stay, and staying with a support network (where possible) makes a lot of sense to me. I think I had removed a smidge of human element from my thought process about the entire issue, but I feel better equipped to discuss the topic when it comes up in the future.\n\nThis has been one of the more pleasant Reddit interactions I've had. Have yourself a great day.", "I still think he should use fox urine to spray out cuz fuck thieves.", "He’s the show host. Just look at Jeopardy! Alex Trebek gets up there and scoffs when people say stupid answers and acts smug when nobody gets it and he has the answer (and I say this as a HUGE Trebek fan), when the real “hero” of the show are the people who make the clues. The true star of the show is the clue board - the game doesn’t exist without the clue writers.\n\nCan you name even one clue writer on the show? No. Does that mean Alex Trebek is a piece of shit for taking all the credit? No.", "Car breakins are categorically worse IMHO. At least porch piracy is just a transfer of wealth, a net-zero event; I lose $X, and they gain $X. Its destructive to society, sure, and a pretty obnoxious bother, but I get it, if I were a selfish prick, or extremely desperate for some reason, I might also steal. \n\nMy smashed window was just over $500 to replace, plus I had to take a full day off work, and delay a planned cross country trip to visit my ailing grandparents ... and all they made off with was a shitty old backpack and $50 in carwash tokens they probably don't even know where to use. Smart money would be that everything they took ended up in the trash. A significant loss to me at literally zero gain to them. \n\nThe cost to society of car break-ins is much larger.", "Nah Bill Nye is a self-absorbed douche when he’s not in front of cameras, unfortunately. My aunt is a middle school science teacher and she met him when he came to her school for an event. She is not a harshly judgmental person and genuinely tries to look for the good in people, but she did not** have nice things to say about Bill Nye. Just arrogant and completely ambivalent about making sure the kids had a positive and educational experience. \n\nBroke my heart to hear that cuz I LOVED Bill Nye as a kid (I was a ‘90s kid). But it’s a good reminder not to idolize celebrities, even if you admire and enjoy their work.", "So we shoot them too. This isn't complicated.", "Look, you’re gonna just keep moving the goal posts and bringing your opinion in against written definitions so I’m gonna leave it here.\n\nThe difference between a phone and the glitter bomb whilst driving is that the phone is a device with a specific function of making calls/running apps etc. and it’s against the law to be driving whilst using it.\n\nThe glitter bomb is a booby trap device solely designed to inconvenience the person who opens it, that inconveniencing if responsible for an accident could possibly put the creator in a legally dubious position.\n\nThe difference is intent, and the person who designed this very device has mentioned themselves how they’ve had to change the design to skirt booby trap device laws.\n\nSo to recap we’ve found that the device fits both dictionary and legal definition and the creator has had to be careful because of possible legal implications and everyone under the sun would understand the ‘common usage’ of the term ‘booby trap’ in regards to the device.", "Funnily enough obesity is a lower income/class problem. They lack the education and money to eat healthy. Getting fat on junk food is pretty easy, especially in the US.\n\nBut the one family really pissed me off. They didn't look particularly poor and it seemed like a kid took the package. They tried to spin it as something positive \"look what I found\". The mother (I suppose) wasn't even mad. Great parenting...", "I was wondering the same thing. It’s like booby traps on your property. They shouldn’t be trespassing or breaking in to your property, but if you leave booby traps, you’re legally liable for the damage it causes them. Kevin McAllister would have been a criminal!", "Yes, that's what I meant but you're more eloquent", "\\[Thank you for selecting Suicide Box.\\]\n\nWait wha", "> Stuff gets left by the door everywhere, not just the US. I don't see how that's the answer to why is it so big in the US.\n\nNot everywhere. Leaving packages on people's doorsteps is not a thing that happens in any European city I've lived in.", "And napalm.", "Put that cookie down! Now!", "Fine maybe my comparison to a phone wasn't appropriate. \n\nI haven't moved the goal posts though. I don't believe that you could apply the legal term \"booby trap\" to this device any more than you could several hundred gag gifts that offer similar experience albeit to a lesser degree. If you have a fake gum package that snappy and you open it in a car and get in a wreck, the gag gift company is not going to be held liable . As for skirting booby trap laws, that's exactly my point. The device is specifically designed NOT to be a booby trap, so anyone citing booby trap legality is barking up the wrong tree.", "So I actually am an attorney in the entertainment industry. What I’m about to say isn’t legal advice, and I’m not your or anyone’s else lawyer (if you need one, google lawyers in your area and set up a consultation). This is merely an academic analysis of a hypothetical scenario. \n\nNow, this is one of those issues where an a priori analysis from a conceptual level is not the best way to think about it. Meaning, we should not be focusing on whether or not it’s against local laws to not blur the faces, because that overlooks the fact that this has to play out in the real world. Generally speaking, you’re not wrong that they could get releases from these people - that’s what the law would require. But I don’t think that’s strictly necessary when we look at this from a more practical perspective. \n\nFor the sake of argument, let’s say there is zero question that Mark needs to blur their faces to comply with the law. But Mark doesn’t blur their faces. Now, let’s think about how this has to play out from that point. \n\nIn order for Mark to be held liable for not blurring their faces, those people have to sue him in civil court for misappropriation of their likeness (which effectively is an IP “infringement” claim). It’s important to note that not blurring their faces is not a criminal act. It’s a tortious act. Meaning the police cannot enforce Mark’s violation of the law - the people on video have to enforce Mark’s violation of the law. \n\nUnder normal circumstances, that isn’t really an issue for the potential plaintiffs. But here, the people who would have to sue Mark are caught on video committing a crime.\n\nGuess what’s gonna happen as soon as they produce the video to enter it into evidence? They’re going to get arrested and their civil claim is going to (at the very least) be put on hold until their criminal charges are dealt with. And what’s even more likely is the judge just dismisses the civil case with prejudice, as there’s a general legal axiom that the law cannot allow one to profit or derive some other benefit from their criminal or illegal acts (eg, you can’t kill your parents and then get paid out under their will). So the civil claim would likely lack merit or at least be dismissed for being against public policy (should criminals get royalties for news broadcasts showing their faces? Of course not, that’s not what IP laws are intended to be used for).\n\nAnd that’s before we get into other areas of the law that will be at issue if they somehow do bring their claim to trial. If I were Mark’s lawyer, I’d argue it’s a de minimis use of their likeness and was fair use (it’s used for humor, commentary and news reporting, which are often covered by fair use). But again, I don’t think it would ever get that far because the $1 their likeness is worth in the eyes of the law is NOT worth getting arrested over.\n\nIn short, it’s good Mark is trying to follow the black letter of the law, but (effective) lawyers know the black letter of the law isn’t the full scope of the law.", "Definitely empty your car, hide your charging cords or anything shiny. I got my shitty broken radio stolen", "Skirting on the legal side of a definition doesn’t mean you are no longer under that definition. For example fixed blade knives over a certain length are illegal to carry in public in the UK but a folding knife under 3 inches is legal to carry.\n\nYou wouldn’t stop calling that legal knife a knife though would you?", "Put things in your trunk before arriving to your destination", "I agree with most of what you said, but it occurred to me that Mark may have a defence in that you’re not supposed to open a package while driving. Yes, the glitter bomb caused a distraction, but that’s because it was engaged while he was driving. \n\nIf you get in an accident while texting, you will be charged with distracted driving (at least in Ontario, Canada, I can’t speak for all places) but I would not be charged or held civilly responsible for damages you may have caused in your accident if I was texting you. \n\nThere was no inherent danger in the box. The thief should not be opening packages (distracted) while driving, and therefore I would argue is wholly responsible.\n\nI am a bit curious as to how it would play out in court.", "andrew callaghan getting his own brand pulled out from him tells me it's all real \n\nif someone's writing that and those are actors it's more impressive, not less. some/maybe a lot of the people are hamming it up, but it's not scripted.", ">Having glitter go off doesn't teach these people a lesson, in fact a few people laughed about it, meaning what? That they think it might even be more fun to steal packages?\n\nFor clarification I'm not talking about the rest of your comment, just the quoted section.\n\nYou sound like you've never dealt with glitter lol. \n\nGlitter gets in and sticks too everything. And even if your doing a craft, carefully using it and not spilling any, it can take like a full week to come off. I once sat washing my hands for like 10 minutes straight to get some off and it didn't work lol. I couldn't imagine trying to remove it from a carpet let alone a car. Plus the kind of glitter he uses is supposedly even more sticky than most glitters.\n\nEdit: they also could be laughing because they realize they've been tricked, could be nervous laughter, or just the fact that glitter is mostly harmless (albeit really fucking annoying)", "I would argue that there’s nothing inherently dangerous about a glitter bomb. What made it dangerous is that the thief opened it while driving. Distracted driving is illegal; if you cause an accident because you’re texting, they hold the person driving and texting liable, not the person they’re texting with.", "Mix the glitter with powdered sugar. You’re a genius!", "You know those super sticky mouse traps? Cover a window in that glue stuff, reinforce it to make it unbreakable on the other side. Car thief throws his elbow into the window and gets stuck.", "Interesting. Either way, this guy just finds me the wrong way. Seems very fake.", "There's some kind of legal rule I can't for the life of me remember the name of - one that details that any harm done in the scope of committing a felony is attributable to you. Maybe someone with more legal knowledge can chime in.", "But the package isn’t supposed to be opened while driving. Opening packages while you drive is distracted driving, and any damages you cause while driving distracted, you are liable for. No one has ever been charged for causing a car accident by texting someone while driving. The person driving distracted is liable.", "I am guessing they are white and don't think people will be threatened by them", ">\tAnd what if they can’t afford bail?\n\nThey can call a bail bondsman who will pay it for them as a loan, and as long as they show up they’d only owe interest on the principal (the bail bondsman gets the bail bond payment back, so the defendant still doesn’t have to pay the sum of the bail as long as they show up). \n\n>\tWhat if they can but it puts them into incredible hardship and poverty?\n\nHow can bail put someone in incredible hardship when they get it back a few weeks later when they have their court date? If they’re out on bail, they can still work and make money. That isn’t “incredible hardship”. Yes, people in poverty live hand to mouth. But if your finances are so wrecked that you can’t afford to support yourself for a few weeks until you recoup your bail bond, then chances are being in jail is a lot cozier than where you’re otherwise living (lots of homeless people intentionally get arrested, because jail gives them “three hots and a cot” - they don’t get three square meals a day and the luxury of a bed if they’re homeless). \n\n>\tRemember that anyone being granted bail is, by the fact they haven’t gone through a trial yet, innocent. \n\nBy that logic, absolutely nobody could ever get arrested and detained before a jury finds them guilty of a crime. That’s absolutely ridiculous. If someone raped and murdered a dozen infants, you’re saying they should be allowed to walk free until a jury determines they’re guilty? You realize how dumb that is right? \n\n>\tWithholding bail or placing conditions on it in the UK is only ever used where necessary to keep the public safe or ensure justice is carried out. \n\nWhy are you talking about withholding bail? That’s completely different from requiring someone to pay bail to be released from pre-trial holding. We have the same restrictions on withholding bail or placing conditions on it that you do. \n\nYou realize US laws on bail are founded upon British laws from feudal Britain’s laws on bail from medieval times, right? Our laws are founded in and based upon the same principles that your laws are. I can’t even count how many times I read British caselaw from the 1100s to the 1700s when I was in law school. And yes, that includes cases that formed the bail system that both fo our countries use today (that’s why British law is taught in US law schools). \n\nBail is such an old concept that if you have issues with the way it’s dispensed in the US, then you have to blame your own country for giving us that foundation. And then you have to be more critical of your own country’s system, because I dunno how you can criticize our system without criticizing your own system.\n\nOh wait, I know how you can do that - all it takes is a complete lack of understanding of how the law works yet the unmitigated arrogance to believe you have completely expert knowledge on the subject.\n\nWhich brings me to my last rebuttal:\n\n>\tWhy should the defendant’s ability to pay have anything to do with anything?\n\nBecause bail is an inducement to show up to court. If you have a millionaire drug lord on trial for all sorts of crimes, you don’t set bail at $5000. Because he’ll pay the $5000 and leave the country and never be held to justice. You set it at $5,000,000 so he’s a lot more likely to show up. And if he doesn’t, well at least our underfunded court system can take his money and put it to far better use than he would. \n\nAnd guess what? The UK has the same regime. Because there’s no point in having bail if it can’t be adjusted on a case-by-case basis to take into account whether it will be a sufficient sum of money to induce the defendant to show up at trial. \n\nSo yeah, it’s clear you have no clue what you’re talking about.\n\nSincerely,\nA licensed US attorney", "I mean, by that logic, I don't want to pay taxes either. So it's ok for the very very very wealthy to employ every trick in the book up to and including spending heaps on lobbying for measures that would prevent them from having to pay a more fairer portion of their taxes?", "Suburban America doesn't have a widespread problem here, but it's definitely an issue in denser cities.", "I wish i could have it a glitter bomb at my house when someone steal", "\"Why did her murder her?\" \n\"Probably because he didn't like her\" \n\"So you think it is OK to murder people?!?!?\" \n\nExcellent line of thought there, Einstein.", ">\tAnd guess what? The UK has the same regime.\n\nNo it fucking doesn’t lol.\n\nSource: read a book (like the book I have right here verifying so written by a licenced UK criminal barrister), or use Google. In almost all cases money isn’t involved and the accused has a right to bail unless proven that granting it would be an issue.\n\nNot even going to get into the rest of your nonsense (like forcing poor people to go into debt, falsely claiming bail only lasts a few weeks when it could be 6 months, total strawmen, disregarding that bail can be denied in certain conditions and much much more).", "Graduated from the school of “just don’t do anything wrong and you don’t have to worry”", "Ok hear me out. Next years upgrade? Killbot. \n\nSpecifically for the car thieves breaking those windows.", "roooooooooxanne", "I'm not sure that's how it works, though. The DA decides whether to press charges. Not turning over evidence for a crime if the accused does you a favor doesn't sound legal either", "Yes. Terrible. \n\nIf I had to resort to stealing, I would not be shoving it in my children’s faces and still expect them to grow up as a decent person. \n\nWhat an example of horrible parenting.", "Relatively affluent. \n\nDecent looking rooms, nicely furnished, and some with fully decorated Christmas trees. \n\nThat’s the Spirit of Christmas?!?!\n\nDoesn’t mean they are loaded. But they don’t look like they live a life of such desperation, where they have to sneak around neighborhoods, and steal packages off people’s porch/steps. \n\nThat’s called greed. Get a job. Get a gig. Get help. Don’t steal what may be someone’s holiday gifts!", "I think these videos are very interesting, yet they do nothing but piss me off. I can't stand seeing people being that pathetic.", "Yes, by this logic, if you are someone who wants to legally pay the minimum amount of taxes possible and you criticize the rich for wanting and doing the same, I'd consider that hypocritical for effectively the same reason.", "The lice hate the sugar", ">\tIn almost all cases money isn’t involved and the accused has a right to bail unless proven that granting it would be an issue.\n\nHow do you have right to bail without money? Explain that to me lmao.", "a lot of these videos of smash & grab thieves, the thieves are driving decent luxury cars", "They are going to jail for it. This is like saying we shouldn’t have abortion because some morons killed their 5 year old and claimed it was a legal abortion", "I would steal this if I can.", "Hahahahahaha just look it up mate, not everywhere is the US where green paper is all that matters. Beginning to doubt you’re even a real lawyer if you don’t even know that.", "only the DA has the power to do that though, the arresting officers don't actually have the authority to offer that", "Yeah, definitely some defence, however, the extra point, is these thieves often operate together, so if the passenger opened it, which is completely legal, then it could occur all over again.\n\nNot a likely issue, but certainly a worry I had.\n\nCurious too, hope it doesn't happen of course!", "Yes. It appeared that way. \n\nPlus the things they are stealing are super high priced designer goods, that no one needs. \n\nRisk your freedom for “a bag”?!?!", "He made a video earlier this year where he used the boxes to uncover this huge scam ring, and the police were involved with it. It's a good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKW58MS12g", "Even criminals have the right to not have their likeness be put out on the internet if they don't want to. He had to ask every one of these people to allow him to put them in the video, or he was open to legal action.", "Very few people - if any - are calling for the abolishment of police. If you think that's what \"defund the police\" means you're wrong.\n\nThe reason people want to defund the police is so that we can take that money and fund the mental health programs you're saying we abandoned. \n\nWe're trying to get cops doing the job they're meant to do instead of being mental health workers as well.\n\nYou say you don't need hyperbole to make your points but you're arguing against hyperbolic strawmen.", "Lol. That is the best analogy you can think of?", "That’s how I was had it for a week and the was my only symptom and got it back after another week of testing negative. My fiancé tho lost hers and her smell now hardly works she can barely smell anything anymore and it’s been almost a year. Also heard of someone where it completely changed the smell of mint to always smelling rotten", "Look if you guys just release suspected criminals and ask them nicely to show up, then that’s not bail lmao. There has to be some collateral, otherwise it’s just letting people walk and hoping then show up.", "Weird. Our justice system hasn't fallen apart yet.\n\nIf you're planning on making a sideways move from the entertainment industry into UK criminal law, I'd really advise against it.", "I was wondering how a glitter bomb 4 was made.", "He opened the package expecting something completely different, though. If he knew he would be opening a glitter bomb which would distract him enough to cause an accident, it is reasonable to assume he wouldn't have touched it.", "I should let my gf know. She might consider catching the rona just so she doesn’t have to deal with the smell of my feet after work.", "Is opening a package without a glitter bomb while you’re driving legal? I would argue it isn’t.", "It is pretty nice being able to rip ass all the time and not have any consequences", "After the fact", "Breaking into houses is illegal but that doesn’t mean I can set up booby traps.", "The difference is, the average person does not privately lobby and donate large sums to PACs to politicians for the express purpose of getting legislation through that opens avenues for tax minimization not available to the average American.", "I bet you still catch shit when it’s loud and at the dinner table.", "There’s a huge difference between a booby trap set up to cause a trespasser harm, and a device intended to prank and annoy thieves. One is inherently dangerous, while the other is not. If someone is doing an activity that distracts from, or causes a distraction while driving, they’re wholly liable for the damage they create while driving distracted. I’ve never seen anyone charged with distracting a driver for sending a text message. It’s the drivers fault 100% for answering the text while driving.", "Yeah that's how things work when you didn't know beforehand", "That's a fair point but it's still worth noting that what he's doing is clearly against the law. \n\n\nIt's similar to me robbing a drug dealer of their heroin stash. Id never get prosecuted (for the robbery part) but its still against the law.", "The US is huge, and crime is different everywhere in it. \n\nI live in a neighborhood where I left my garage door lifted up and open 24/7 for an entire summer, with 4 bicycles, a workbench full of tools with a huge clear jar of change sitting on it, and nothing ever happened. \n\nMeanwhile you can go somewhere like downtown SF and get your car broken into within minutes.", "It's not the police he needs to worry about but the district attorney. \n\nHe'll likely never get prosecuted but he is very much liable here. Certainly he could easily be taken to civil court. If something went wrong with device and someone got hurt it likely would precipitate an indictment. \n\nIts shocking to me that people don't realize that pranks are illegal. Certainly these sorts of pranks are clearly unlawful.", "With a PHD in \"Vaccines are for sheep\"", "Yea, it's a little bit of a different beast with taxes.\n\nI still think that with homeless shelters or the like, though, they're arguing for the same thing. They're not cheating for a disproportionate advantage, they're trying to avoid the same disadvantage.", "How could he not know? I could tell the first time I saw it that some of the 'reactions' were fake as could evidently many other people. You don't have to be a NASA engineer...oh wait", "because the perceived risk is near zero", "Thanks for the breakdown, that makes sense. Since this is a YouTube video couldn’t one of them have the video taken down through YouTube instead of the courts like copyright claims are typically handled?", "Or.. he doesn't want to cause bigger problems. Like that person who opened it in the car while driving. They already almost got into an accident, what if they or their windshield got blinded by the paint and they drove into another car/onto the sidewalk and killed some innocent child. That's a whole mess of morality and legal issues", "Then go vote against their own interests.", "With your line of thinking, why can't people call for execution of shoplifters? Why don't you want a criminal to be executed? You sound very concerned that thieves and other criminals are well-taken care of, when we can just kill em off!\n\nPeople care that criminals \"don't have too much to worry about\" BECAUSE we believe punishment ought to scale with the severity of the crime.", "lol this is great", "What's even your argument here? That only people like you have a value of life greater than your toys? Embarrassing.", "Oof this is just the best. Resonates so well with so many careers.", "So you know they're fake because... You know they're fake? Sounds like an opinion to me", "Because its silly fun videos that don't fucking matter lol.", "They're not asking for money or physical property in this scenario.\n\nBut it also assumes the video creator ever made such an offer or ever intended to report them for theft.", "There is a huge difference between a physical booby trap and texting somebody. I think you're focusing too much on the act of distracted driving here. Replace the driver opening it with a passenger opening it. Same result.\n\nThese packages are being placed outside homes with the intent of having them picked up by thieves. It is reasonable to assume most of these thieves will be driving away with them. It is reasonable to assume some of these packages will be opened while in a moving vehicle.\n\nWhat if a passenger opened it and the result was a fatal accident? I don't think this is as cut-and-dry as you think.", "I didn’t say it’s cut and dry, but it most certainly isn’t as cut and dry as placing booby traps around your house. One is clearly illegal, and one is very debatable on how much liability the prankster would hold.", ">Literally no one is calling for the execution of shoplifters.\n\n[What world have you been living in?](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/floridas-gov-desantis-wants-to-allow-armed-citizens-to-shoot-looters-and-rioters_n_5fac0ccac5b6d647a39af5c0)", "Here in the Philippines its company policy to actually give the item to the customer and not just leave it at the porch. Some companies actually requires a picture or selfie giving birth to a slew of memes about the receiver which usually are stay at home moms hurrying up to find and wear a bra to get the package or dressing up like you have a photoshoot.", "I mean then why does the channel want to show the perpetrators’ faces? The yourube channel makes money, and the creator makes money off selling merch. It may not be direct, but I would guess there is a monetary incentive to show the violators’ expressions because it gets more of a reaction from the viewer base.", "We were talking about glitter being spilled in a thief's car and the thief being able to sue over it. The only people talking about executing shoplifters are you simpletons who cant seem to discuss anything without going off the deep end.", "Sorry, where in that article does it say anything about shoplifting?", "They're not taking that person's money. You'd also have a hard time arguing that unblurred faces gets them more views and money.", "One more thing the delivery man usually calls out your name or ask people about you when you're a bit hard to find just imagine the whole neighborhood knowing you bought a 10 inch dildo", ">Opening packages while you drive is distracted driving, and any damages you cause while driving distracted, you are liable for.\n\nYou seemed pretty certain here.", "I guess that’s true. So what’s the point of unblurring? Improved content? Deterrence of future thefts?", "You're not talking about it because you don't see the implications of what you suggest. Do non-simpletons understand that concept?", "Well, yeah, wealthy people have access to better drugs, but other than that I don't see how necessarily being poor leads to trying meth (and no sarcasm this time).", "A distinction with no meaningful difference when you're talking about executing them. Looting just means they shoplifted more then $150 worth of goods.\n\nBut I'm sure you put real thought into this reply and didn't just Ctrl+F for \"shoplift\" and think you actually made a good retort.", "Context is everything. Simpletons often don't understand context.", "They kinda have to prioritize all the other shit that happens in the US.", "And I mean... There isn't a shortage of fat people in the US.", "The fact that you equate rioting and looting to shoplifting may partially explain why the world is such a confusing place to you.", "Just improve the quality of the content. If you can have them agree, then why not? And of course there's no indication the creators made any threats anyway. They also could have just asked them about the consent and that's it.", "Prioritize? Lmao they don't do shit.", "This comment wouldn't be as funny if I didn't omit the sarcasm tag, but hey, enough with downvoting, pleeeease 😅", "So a human life is only worth $150 in material possessions to you? At least we know your mindset when you split hairs about \"[literally no one wants to execute shoplifters.](https://patch.com/illinois/grayslake/rittenhouse-talks-wanting-shoot-shoplifters-video-prosecutors)\"\n\nE: dollar amount varies, more accurately I should say looting is just opportunistic shoplifting.\n\nE2: lol, guess I forced you to gaze into your own soul and you didn't like it.", "Aha! We should clearly stop telling people that stealing is wrong, it would be so much easier to catch them!", "Neither do lawyers. Context is for your convenience, not for laws.", "Unfortunately, the video clearly shows not everyone is smart enough to learn on other people's mistakes 😄", "\"Ohhh, that's one of those boxes where you steal them abd go to jail, I've heard about it on TV!\"", "I doubt these are fake.", "I can relate to victims, which is why I prefer a system of rehabilitation to reduce recidivism. Turns out showing some humanity to criminals creates less victims in the future.\n\nYour lust for violence against criminals only creates more victims in the long run.\n\nYou don't care about victims one bit.", "I apologize in advance for the long post. I have almost neve had an opportunity to post all this since when I have i've gotten immediately shut down as being a conspiracy theorist etc. So please read this with a skeptic mindset. \n\nI wouldn't necessarily call them \"paid actors\" but yes some of the do get paid. I can guarantee this group of fan-favorite Channel 5 characters didn't get back together out of the goodness of their hearts:\nhttps://youtu.be/aoyBLSghFKk\n\nAnd then there are the recurring characters like this guy who just happened to run into AGNB at both Area 51 and the Gem&Jam\nhttps://youtu.be/5RKNb768pWE&t=7m36s\n\nAnd this person at the furry convention, who starts giving out their \"real phone number\" but says \"555-\" which is the number used for fake numbers. And yes they could have knowingly said that as a joke but if so then the way the interview \"cuts\" to make it seem real is slightly disingenuous. \nhttps://youtu.be/3RFun58Gt7A&t=6m31s\n\nAnd then in my opinion the most \"damning\" but also hardest to prove. (And I should say I've been accused of being a trump supporter/conspiracy theorist for this one, which couldn't be further from the truth). At the trump book club, while talking to that lady, Andrew really REALLY looks like he's mouthing along to the lines she's saying, as if it's a rehearsed script. Watch Andrew's lips at 8:19-8:24 starting with \"ain't nobody messin' with trump\". Then again around 8:34 but not as obvious. \nhttps://youtu.be/RJ6p2LgbYRQ&t=8m18s\n\nSo, my belief is that when he started out AGNB he wanted it to be like Borat- a mix of real and fake. But as he gained massive popularity all under the pretense of \"just letting people speak\", he now wants/needs to maintain this air of \"journalistic integrity\" or whatever you call it. I believe AGNB/C5 is a mix of heavily edited reality and staged/planted actors.", "My home or car insurance would cover that. I don't live in the land of the free though. \n\nInsurance may have a deductable though so better to just shoot someone in the back instead and hope you don't damage your TV?", "Is opening a package while driving distracted driving?\n\nIf you cause a MVA while driving distracted, do they hold people distracting you liable?", "That's a nice little word salad you've got there.", "so many scumbags just stealing stuff.", "Unfortunately some people get put in bad situations through no fault of their own (abuse, trafficking etc) and have no choice other than to do things that they don't want to do such as stealing things to get money to buy food. I hope you never have to shoot someone in the back for stealing from you as it would profoundly affect you for the rest of your life in a negative way.", "I guess theft is really common there and packages are left at the street. In my country, they only hand it out to you, they never leave packages outside.", "not really, they only hand out packages to somebody at home, never leave it on the street in my country and I bet most of Europe.", "yea, here they call and ask if you are home. Then give it to somebody at the address.", "Was amazing. It was amazing.", "Was the person who caused the MVA distracted by a booby trap?", "I’m sure the thief will roll on their back nicely to make sure they don’t damage the TV when they fall down after being shot", "I liked it, but man. A not insignificant portion of that video was just pure shilling.", "You just ignored every single issue I raised to dismiss the autistic community as \"niche online communities\".", "He's getting millions of views per video, he doesn't need to shill for training courses or remarkably niche merchandise. And even aside from that, as a viewer, I'm under no obligation to support his desire for a third, fourth of fifth revenue stream- the endless shilling puts me off his videos.", "It has lots of issues, but it is still an awesome city. Every redditor who talks about how the streets are covered in human feces or whatever has never actually been there. But yeah, don't use street parking if you value your car windows. Definitely pretty shitty that things are that way.", "I mean, they don’t really have a copyright in the video, so conceptually speaking they should not be able to do that.\n\nBut YT’s takedown process is all sorts of fucked so maybe? 🤷‍♂️", "The dude seems pretty in love with himself.", "Don't listen to that guy. He will find a way to be miserable no matter where he lives. It's an amazing city, so long as you don't plan on ever owning property.", "There were -some- that people faked for financial incentive reasons on one of the videos. (I forget which one.) It wasn't him who faked them though, and when he found out, he removed those specific reactions from the video and apologized for it.", "I found out that film score composers often don't write every single note or sometimes even every single song Hans Zimmer comes to mind. I've read that he farms work out to others that work under him, and then slaps his name on it. I'm assuming that's what's going on here.", "> Who cares about innocent victims being killed by drivers who veered off the road because they opened a glitter bomb package.\n\nI do. That's why I support laws to punish drivers who choose to distract themselves while driving and cause crashes. The fault is on the person who was in control of a moving death machine and chose to ignore actually controlling it so they could open a stolen package.", "I was talking about \"every parking garage and even parks have huge signs reminding people not to leave things in their car\" not the theft problem.", "What if the person driving the car was texting instead of opening a package? They take responsibility for their vehicle's actions when they get behind the wheel, that doesn't go away because they were fucking with a package rather than paying attention to the road any more than it does if they were playing with their phone.", "> Living in actual housing is of course far better, but if I had to live in a car I can't think of anywhere in the US I'd rather be.\n\nTry reading.", "> There are many actual cases of someone booby trapping their houses and then being found guilty of murder/assault when they get triggered by thiefs.\n\nThose are using force that requires human discretion. You can only use deadly force in a limited set of circumstances that generally relies on a reasonable person standard; if there's no person, they can't be a reasonable person. Tripwires attached to shotguns aren't legal because it's clearly intent to use deadly force without justification; a glitter bomb could cause accidental harm, but it is not intended to be harmful and is very unlikely to be found to be illegal in any court. The elements of a crime require two things, mens rea and actus rea (mental state and action) - if you intend to hurt someone and do, it's a crime. Some crimes do not require mens rea, either strict liability crimes (i.e. possession crimes or statutory rape) or things like negligence. Setting a booby trap with deadly force is both intent to use deadly force and, when triggered, use of deadly force, but at the time they intended to use deadly force it was not legally justified so such booby traps are illegal. \n\nAll of that relies on the force being used requiring legal justification - is spreading glitter use of force? You can certainly argue that, but it'll be an uphill battle.", "Also most tourists go downtown which borders the Tenderloin and go to places like Fisherman's Wharf. If you go to more low key areas like the Sunset district or the Richmond district you are a lot less likely to get bipped, plus they have great food in those areas as well. Most locals try to avoid Union Square area as much as possible.", "Did anyone in this video look poorly fed or in desperate circumstances?", "That's so inconvenient though. The point of delivery is to get it to your door", "Is stopping someone from doing something a punishment? Punishments occur after the fact, not during.", "As I said in another comment, this can apply to a passenger. It seems a very unlikely scenario, but I felt like it is worth asking.", "Yeah I mean even then, I lived in that area for years and never saw a homeless person shitting in the street or whatever all these Redditor's claim is happening constantly. Like yeah for sure if you end up on the wrong street in the Tenderloin it will be littered with needles, but most US cities have rough areas.", ">I say too loud in quotes because they target stock oem cars and hit them with tickets.\n\nYet something tells me they never once pull over a goddamned harley.", "I wonder if he could rig it to only do the nastier stuff while not moving. The phones have GPS after all.", "Thanks for the write-up! Genuinely interesting", "Honestly can't tell if you're just trolling at this point. So now you're saying that his prior video didn't have any fake reactions originally? \n\n[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-glitter-bomb-video-featured-fake-thieves-creator-says/2389954002/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-glitter-bomb-video-featured-fake-thieves-creator-says/2389954002/)\n\n[https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/glitter-bomb-package-thief-video-not-entirely-real](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/glitter-bomb-package-thief-video-not-entirely-real)\n\n[https://www.engadget.com/2018-12-21-viral-glitter-bomb-video-fake-mark-rober.html](https://www.engadget.com/2018-12-21-viral-glitter-bomb-video-fake-mark-rober.html)\n\n[https://www.vice.com/en/article/yw7jej/glitter-bomb-video-staged-fake-package-thieves-youtube-mark-rober-explained-vgtrn](https://www.vice.com/en/article/yw7jej/glitter-bomb-video-staged-fake-package-thieves-youtube-mark-rober-explained-vgtrn)\n\n[https://www.cnet.com/news/parts-of-viral-glitter-bomb-video-were-faked-says-engineer-who-made-it/](https://www.cnet.com/news/parts-of-viral-glitter-bomb-video-were-faked-says-engineer-who-made-it/)\n\n[https://fortune.com/2018/12/23/viral-glitter-bomb-video-fake-thieves/](https://fortune.com/2018/12/23/viral-glitter-bomb-video-fake-thieves/)", "In that instance, the driver chose to distract themselves by opening the box while driving. The glitter bomb wasn't exactly designed to be opened while driving, so that's still on the driver for intentionally distracting themselves.", "If the driver's paying more attention to the passenger than to the road resulting in a crash then they've failed their duty to control the vehicle - again, the driver's fault, not the passenger's. That can be more sympathetic, i.e. if a kid is puking in the back then the parent that was trying to deal with that is probably not going to get seriously punished beyond insurance implications, but they are still responsible. \n\nYou get behind the wheel, you're responsible for where that vehicle goes until it stops. Nobody else's actions change that unless their unlawful driving caused them to hit your vehicle with theirs causing a further crash (i.e. you're stopped at a red light, they rear end you, you rear end the person in front of you - they're responsible for both crashes).", ">In the state of Texas, theft crimes where the value of the stolen property is less than $1,500 is considered to be a misdemeanor theft\n\nTexas is woke as fuck", "That was trippy bro 🤣💯", "I'm not talking misdemenors. I'm talking no punishment whatsoever.", "What if a passenger opened it?", "Under Penal Code 484(a) PC, California law defines the crime of petty theft as wrongfully taking or stealing someone else’s property when the value of the property is $950.00 or less. Petty theft is a misdemeanor.", "I'm surprised they didn't partner with law enforcement in the first place. I think they should make a version they sell to police and let police run their own stings at Christmas time.\n\nThey have room for military grade weaponry in their budgets they can afford to run a few package thief stings. They should stop beating up on people for victimless crimes like recreational drug use and do something actually useful.", "And they don't prosecute misdemeanors", "Sounds like someone's not doing their job. https://datasf.org/ has raw stats but it has its issues as well.\n\nAll in all its not as simple as \"They decriminalized petty theft under $950.\"", "Lol so aggressive to strangers.", "So the next step is take a shit in a bag and leave in on the seat. No one’s snoozing in shit car.", "Isn’t that like saying shootings aren’t that bad because technically it doesn’t happen that often? It happens way more than it should and way more than anywhere else though.", "They might get creative and leave you a nice finger paint picture", "The \"package\" was specifically designed to be left out and taken by others.\n\nI'd make the argument that what Mark Rober did was laying a trap. a trap that only assholes who steal packages will trigger, but a trap nonetheless.\n\nIf that were a bomb, I'm not sure he'd exactly get off the hook given he deliberately wanted people to take it and designed it to explode once it has been opened.", "+1 for that too", "If you wanna touch someone else’s shit, nothings stopping you from getting into a car anyways.", "Holy shit you have to get seven and a half minutes into the video before you actually get to see people getting glitter bombed.", "That's a cop out excuse. explain to me why your life situation means you \"NEED\" my camera or my stereo or my television or my watch?\n\nPLEASE by all means explain that to me. If you can STEAL the TV then you can also just STEAL FOOD.\n\nI agree. it would profoundly me. probably destroy me. I do not want to ever have to lay down in bed knowing I killed someone regardless of the reason.\n\nI am still not going to let you walk away with my life. if that means I have to take yours then well. you made your choice.", "The thing can decapitate them for all i care. Less porch pirates = better world.", "poverty leads to criminal activities and many times those criminal activities deal with drugs or give easier access to drugs to deal with lifes miseries. I mean this is socio 101 here its not complicated.\n\n\"I\" can not POSSIBLY understand how you can NOT understand how being poor leads to trying \"meth\".\n\nI mean I found this in my first 3 seconds on google\n\nhttps://stjosephinstitute.com/understanding-the-relationship-between-poverty-and-addiction/", "asbestos fibres", "I think you could argue against it.\n\nWhat if it wasn't a glitter bomb but a kids toy like tickle me elmo or whatever that talks loud and makes movement and sound. Someone opens that in a car and freaks out because of the sound and movement and crashes, are they going to be able to sue Hasbro?", "no. you do not have any idea AT ALL what you are talking about. you are quite literally clueless\n\nraising the level of wealth for society as a whole is what lowers crime. this is an absolutely fact proven again and again and again and NEVER ONCE proven otherwise.\n\nThere is a direct irrefutable connection between poverty and crime.\n\nThe technology is literally irrelevant. half the time they are too stupid or too high or too desperate to give one flying fuck about any tech watching them.", "Makes me think of micro plastics…", "True, most people are less than thrilled when their package gets delivered to a pickup point half the town away, which also isn't open outside of office hours (as it's probably just a shop).", "I mean, it's a \"booby trap device\", but it's effectively harmless and only sprays fart smell, makes loud noises, has a GPS tracker, and gets glitter everywhere. It's not a \"booby trap\" in the sense of the legal definition of the phrase. \n\nAnd yes, the police are well aware of this. They have been for years since it originally came out. I don't think he's breaking any laws.", "Why is that relavent? This device isn't going to cause any harm in any way.", "I love how literally the first sentences cast the same doubt on your comment:\n\n>The relationship between addiction and poverty is complicated. Lower income people are slightly more likely to struggle with drug or alcohol abuse, but this doesn’t necessarily mean that poverty causes addiction.\n\nThree seconds of googling might not be enough after all, bucko :)", "> I don't think there's been any credible evidence that Mark is intentionally staging any of this\n\nSo you will concede that these videos have been known to host fake content, but you're just unsure if Mark is himself personally directing the faking of these videos?", "next you'll tell me guilty pleas are blackmail", "nah, a 2050 bomb would be made with organic vegan ingredients and the glitter would be outlawed for plastic pollution\n\nthe suicide bomber would be free-range and ethically raised", "I see your argument and it's the one I'm challenging. I do feel your frustration and anger. I have felt it too when I have had something stolen from me that I valued. Ultimately, however, the question of how much we value human life is a philosophical one: Should all human lives be valued the same? If not, why not, and who gets to decide whose life is valued more?\n\nWhen it comes to my example, it doesn't really matter if we're talking about a $200, $1700 or a $4000 item. After insurance, the monetary cost will end up being maybe half a month's wages at most for most cases, not including the anger and frustration, of course. At that point we are necessarily at the question of: Are two weeks of your life worth more than 50 years of someone else? Someone who could well be stealing your things because that's the only way to keep a roof over their head or feed a child, or simply because that's the only kind of life they have known. Some people are born into a life where they lack the education and opportunities to participate in society the way you and I can, where they get tricked into doing drugs before they have any way of knowing what the consequences of drug addiction are. \n\nSure, even some well-off kids turn out bad, and many struggling kids from the ghettoes manage to navigate to a better life without committing crimes, but in the end it's a numbers game. \n\nPeople are being born in crime-breeding circumstances all of the time. We're not going to run out of criminals by killing them when we catch them. It's been tried for thousands of years, and most of the world has already understood this and moved away from capital punishment, especially when it comes to property crimes like theft. \n\nTo truly reduce crime, we need to address the root causes of why people steal, and it has been done in many places around the world with great success.\n\nThat kid who stole that camera from your back seat might be a drug addict that'll be dead in two years anyway. Or it could be someone who's trying to pay off a debt to some gangbanger in order to get out of a bad life and turn things around, because they want to provide a better life for their infant baby. Either way, it's entirely wrong of them to steal, but shooting them will take decades of opportunity for personal growth away from them. And I just don't think that's a decision any of us should have the right to make in anger.\n\nThanks for hearing out my argument. I'm not asking you to change your mind, but I do hope that my thoughts give some new ways to you to view this issue. Have a lovely day!", "> Boss withholds a paycheck because you clocked in on time but they say it was too early? Why not shoot them?\n\nyour boss would be quicker to draw, and he'd have help", "And why didn't she want to pay rent?", "They don't have fences to make neighborhoods seem first-world but the population within is third-world.", "Everyone thinks this is a good laugh until a passenger opens this in a moving vehicle and the noise/glitter distracts the driver to the point where they lose control and smoke someone on the sidewalk.", "Nope, when you are driving you are legally not supposed to do anything else.", "Fortunately it isn’t my situation but perhaps someone who is stealing food every day (which you say is fine) just figured they can steal a camera and feed their family for a whole week. I should imagine that stealing once in a week is better than doing it multiple times per day. But I do appreciate your point that your personal belongings have taken some of your life to be able to obtain and it isn’t right to steal them. There is some detriment to your quality of life to have to replace them and that is horrible. \n\nNot everyone that is stealing is inherently a bad person and many people that do it to survive for a time turn their lives around and go on to more than repay society for the harm they caused.", "Lol, because in LA studio apartments will start out at $1300/month.", "Do you mean it's too expensive for her?", "The first video had 90 seconds of fake content which was removed promptly and there's not any reason to believe there's more now considering the circumstances of that first incident", "Because one video encompasses an entire country of problems.", "You gave a simplistic answer, I pointed out the gaping flaw in your argument as evidenced by the video we all just watched.\n\n>Because society treats some people like trash and then wonders why they get desperate and focused on anything that might feed them for one more day.\n\nOne answer doesn't encompass an entire country of problems either.", "No. She could've easily afforded it -- she just thought she would be throwing money away for an apartment she was barely at. She really got into van life/skoolies and with me needing to move back to the east coast while she needed to be in LA, it was the perfect opportunity to try out the lifestyle. She was more productive and more active, and she saved a fuck ton of money. Most of the time her work can be done from anywhere -- she takes that opportunity to travel and explore as much as possible.", "You'd better get cracking, then.", "Way at the beginning of the thread, someone said that if the thief wrecked his car after opening this while driving, he could possibly win in court. Others said that impossible because this wasn’t meant to harm anyone so you couldn’t sue. I was pointing out that “meaning to harm” is not the legal standard and his driving scenario is certainly one in which these hilarious and well-deserved devices could cause harm.", "lol", "But yet... All this tech, any arrests? I'm all in for the entertainment but we've seen this now. I want to see some genuine solutions. Do I remember him mentioning they would be working with the police or something? Not sure that happened", "And philly. Or any city", "😂", "> raising the level of wealth.\n\nbut you aren’t. you’re taking the wealth from the rich.\n\nhow do you raise everyone’s wealth when all the immigrants come and want some", "Great write-up! I'm always curious though as to why all lawyers put that huge disclaimer at the beginning. Do people really think that if you don't include that bit that your story that you just wrote somehow establishes an attorney-client relationship??", "To some extent. There was a piece for Vice or someone else where Andrew was being interviewed by a news outlet, and they went to an event of some kind where Andrew was interviewing people. At the event, Andrew interviewed a person, and afterwards said that he wouldn't air that part in the video because it was obvious they were only like that when they went to events like that, and wanted to talk to the real version of that person who was like that 100% of the time instead of what was effectively cosplay. He also showed a later one where it was very obvious someone was acting crazy just to get on the show.", "Believe it or not, we do have a professional code of ethics we have to abide by. That’s really what it’s for - compliance with legal ethics. That disclaimer removes any risk that what we say about the law is taken as legal advice that someone then relies upon, which can form an attorney-client relationship which then imposes fiduciary duties on us that we cannot breach. \n\nBasically people like to take stuff lawyers say offhandedly about the law, rely on it, then sue the lawyer who made the comment for malpractice because they “reasonably relied” on the lawyer’s statements and then fucked themselves over.\n\nSo to answer your question on whether people think it actually creates an attorney-client relationship, yes. Not just “people”, but the courts and the Bar themselves say that as well. We’re licensed professionals - we have to hold ourselves to a certain standard of conduct. It’s the same reason why when you call your doctor or other healthcare professional/provider, the automated message always tells you if you’re having a medical emergency to hang up and go to the ER - they could incur liability if someone was on hold and died (or their condition worsened) and the machine didn’t tell them to go to a hospital. \n\nYes, it’s a bit ridiculous. But it’s not worth taking the risk of a sanction on my license to practice law because I forgot to give a two sentence disclaimer at the start of what I posted.", "It's like most other cities where there are bad neighborhoods. The bad parts are definitely worse due to the warmer climate (lots of homeless from further east eventually migrate here), but overall its still a world class city, if expensive.\n\nA lot of Vancouverites love to be really doom and gloom about the city (check out the subreddit if you want an occasional bath of pessimism). Covid has made some of the bad areas worse for sure, but the city is waaay better than it was in the 90's. I think as with everything, there are a lot of youngins who don't have enough historical context or experience in other cities to evaluate things properly. \n\nIt's a great place, but just like any other city, you simply need to be a little smart and cognizant of bad areas.", "Can you sue Apple for making a phone that distracts you from driving?", "Of coarse not. But one could argue something like this is completely different then a normal box. The “hazard” was manually placed. One could argue had it not caused the glitter bomb or fart sound the driver would not have swerved.", "\"3/4\" of his video smh, I was actually pleasantly surprised by how much I DIDN'T need to scroll past to get thru the small ad piece. It was probably only 15 seconds, maybe 30.", "\\drops the water bottle on an RTX 3090\\", "I remember a time, spoken about in hushed tones by the wise men and witchdoctors when no one is listening, called the nineties. Get this, back then, if you wanted to watch anything at all, you had to turn on your 27-inch Zenith CRT at precisely the right time and consult an arcane book of facts and figures written on paper in the smallest possible font legible by human eyeballs just to see a rerun of \"Family Matters\" that, get this, would be interrupted every 3-7 minutes by 1-3 minutes of unskippable commercials. \n\n\nAnd nobody complained. \n\n\nIf you hate youtube ads, you can pay to skip them, stick an adblock on your browser, get fancy and stick a raspberry pi to your router, check your twitter, order dinner, interact with another human being for 30 seconds, hoo boy the sky's the limit. And if you hate content creators hyping their merch in the middle of theevideo because youtube sucks and quit paying people from those ads you're probably skipping, well I've got an old 27-inch Zenith in my attic where nobody will ever hype patreon or custom hoodies ever again, and you can enjoy watching the same Geico commercial you've seen 30 times today even though you're seven and you don't own a car.", "Oh! And you paid the equivalent of $120 in today's money every month for the privilege.", "You can't pay rent with youtube comments, sadly.", "I see no conflict. you might try to create a conflict \"bucko\" but I see NO conflicts. There is NO conflict with anything I said.", "Again. you are asking the wrong question. the THIEF is making the choice. the THIEF is making the comparison knowingly or not for the value of his life for my stuff. Not me.\n\nI did not ask him to steal my stuff. HE CHOSE THAT. therefore HE CHOSE any consequences that result from that.\n\nThe THIEF has decided my stuff is worth more than the next 50 years of his life not me.\n\nYou can keep trying to turn this around and I will halt you full stop every single time and CORRECT you every single time. THE THIEF has decided my stuff is worth more than his life. NOT ME.\n\nYOU are saying I have to give up the life of my child for the life of his child. that is an insane position to hold.\n\nits not anger to me. its a calculated choice. the thief forfeited his life for my possessions. that choice is on them not me.", "You know. YOU PEOPLE really piss me off. keep your god damned thoughts to yourself versus projecting YOUR thoughts into MY MOUTH.\n\nI never said stealing food is fine. where the fuck did you get that load of shit you just invented in your own twisted mind and are now trying to PROJECT onto me ?", "but your SUPPOSED to take the spoils away from thieves. that is how life is supposed to work. in an ideal world you TAKE the spoils from those thieves (the wealthy) and you RETURN it to their victums (everyone else)\n\nIf you can think of a way for the 1% to hold 92% of the wealth in ANY sort of legitimate manner besides THIEVERY I would love to hear it.\n\nWe need to TAKE the ill gotten good back from those thieves and return it to the people where it came from.", "you sound bitter and desperate.", "I don't like what someone says. so I will ignore them and call them names to try and pretend I am right and they are wrong.\n\nGotcha.", "I can’t believe there’s not one single comment in this thread about the absolutely dreadful sound mixing in this video. Hard to listen to.", "Hahahaha yeah, okay.", "Californians in Oregon are for real some of the most obnoxious Californians. Go to a trail in the Columbia River Gorge. If you find a hiker blasting music on the trail from his Bluetooth speaker, you can almost guarantee it's a Californian.", "Supposed\n\nAnd every year. He’s making over 100k on these.", "It’s more than I don’t care to argue with a child who doesn’t know what they’re talking about any longer unfortunately.\n\nit’s not my problem if you’re messed up in the head. \n\nsee you later.", "that and see you later whacko. maybe one day you will grow up. but somehow... I doubt. twats like you rarely change.", "What a dumb ass take. Oh their poor so they have to steal.", "I work in IT and the one time we got a stolen laptop back was because it was purchased used from a pawn shop and he called our helpdesk because it kept automatically enrolling to our mobile device management suite - even after reinstalling the OS.\n\nThey're supposed to check, but I have a feeling it doesn't happen ever.", "I'm assuming these are fake just like prank videos because it's all just one bad incident away from being a lawsuit or something tragic that can ruin your life.\n\n\nA package could purposely goes off or unintentionally while they're in the car and they swerve and kill someone/damage their vehicle. You don't have to go far to think of a reasonable scenario where someone can get hurt or see damages, even someone who had no part in the theft.\n\n\nWhy put yourself at that kind of risk where something that will go wrong can go wrong when you can simply pay people a couple hundred to put on a performance while the viewers eat it up and you make your money?", "I hear you. The thief makes a choice, knowingly. But how knowingly? Your assertion is based on the idea that the thief is fully aware of the consequences of his actions, that (s)he is clear-headed, knowledgeable, able to weigh the risks vs. reward and that the choice is between just stealing and getting shot vs not stealing and having a latte at Starbucks. \n\nIt's easy to choose between cake and death, but if you and your kid haven't eaten in a week, the choices you're making are going to get a whole lot more complicated and unclear. People's priorities change when they are in a survival mode. When you're facing death every day, the odds of not being caught and shot might seem reasonably favourable, especially if the only alternative they can think of is for themselves and their kid to starve to death.\n\nThis is why I speak of opportunities and education: If people have other alternatives beyond stealing and starving; if fewer people get addicted to drugs and mess up their heads, if a kid born to a poor family in the 'hood has enough information and guidance available to find a way to a better life without having to resort to thieving, that's when we can start speaking about them making an actual CHOICE between stealing and not stealing. And I'm willing to bet, given the opportunity, many of these people who now become thieves would gladly CHOOSE to live a more honorable life. \n\nAnd perhaps some of those who are thieves today, will someday CHOOSE to live a more honorable life, when they have the means to do so. And at that point, they will surely regret the choices they made in their more difficult times, perhaps even wishing to apologize to those they had harmed in the past. And if by happenstance someone who stole from you a decade ago happened to find you, tell you they know they made a wrong choice and sincerely apologised to you for taking something you owned, would you still want to shoot them? Would you still wish you had shot them a decade ago? This... human being, who made a mistake.\n\nWe all make wrong choices sometimes in our life. I have made some, you probably have too. And we'll keep making choices in our lives, every day. And we hope to make the right ones, but sometimes we don't. \n\nTo have all the information, all the knowledge and understanding, to always make perfect choices, is a luxury none of us enjoy, and the less education, the fewer opportunities in life we have, the less ability we have to make informed choices, and choices that consider others.\n\nThis doesn't even account for the feelings of injustice from living in a society where others have cars and houses, iPhones and TVs, and you have nothing and never had the opportunity to even reliably feed yourself. Perceptions of morality, of right and wrong, change when others have so much and you yourself have nothing. You, an honest person, probably wouldn't steal from anyone, but it's a whole lot less painful to think about taking a million from Jeff Bezos, than thinking about stealing $100 from your neighbour Steve's bank account. It just _feels_ less evil to take from someone who has a lot more than you do, and that surely factors into the choices made by those who have nothing. It's all relative.\n\nThis is ultimately why the left-wingers talk about income inequality being bad. Inequality breeds poverty, and poverty breeds crime due to lack of opportunity to make choices that don't come at others' expense. It's clear to see that reducing poverty reduces crime. There are many places in the world where this whole conversation seems absurd, because thanks to lower poverty levels, car break-ins are so rare.\n\nBut in America, we make the CHOICE to pretend that everyone can individually pull themselves up by their bootstraps regardless of where they start from. And if they don't CHOOSE to do that, well that's their problem. And that's how much we value human life.\n\nWhether you're standing at the voting booth, speaking with your community members, or staring down the sights of your gun at some thieving hoodlum, you too have choices to make, and it's not always so simple to tell the right choice from the wrong.\n\nThanks again for hearing me out. We have different perspectives and it's okay. I am half writing these responses to process my own feelings on this, and I thank you for the opportunity. Be well, fellow human.", "You:\n> I see you stealing a loaf of bread I'm looking the other way\n\nAlso You:\n> I never said stealing food is fine.\n\nI think we have reached the natural conclusion of this discussion and we will just need to agree to disagree. Have a lovely Christmas.", "Police should start taking preventive measures and put dummy boxes with trackers, anyone stealing them should get a hefty fine.", "Not really. This is like saying you can't park anywhere in Chicago or it's suburbs. We have the same problem as every major city with homeless and junkies in the skid row part of downtown.", "It's because of Amazon Prime mostly. \n\n When people say they left the package at the door it is not Canada Post or FedEx. They put it in your box, or it goes to a pickup point same as always.\n\nThese are Amazon drivers or private shippers hired by them. Amazon knows some will get stolen but it costs them less to replace those than re-ship or hold items at pickup points they don't have.", "You don't hear me. you keep claiming to hear me but you don't\n\nThe cognition of the thief does not matter to me. do as I say or die. its pretty simple. its not a complex concept. even a mentally retarded individual understands the basic concept.\n\n\"It's easy to choose between cake and death, but if you and your kid \nhaven't eaten in a week, the choices you're making are going to get a \nwhole lot more complicated and unclear. People's priorities change when \nthey are in a survival mode.\"\n\nand now I am in survival mode as my means of survival is removed from me and I can not replace it. SO you are saying the thieves life is more important than mine. that the thieves needs are more important than mine. that the thieves ability to feed their family is more important than the ability to feed my own.\n\non top of this none of that matters. this is called a \"red herring\" the problems of the thief are NOT RELEVANT. the property belongs to me. if you try to take it I am going to stop you. up to and including lethal force if you resist. this is not a negotiation.\n\n\"We all make wrong choices sometimes in our life\"\n\nNo. sorry. that is not how this works. this is not an \"i ran a stop sign\" and altered someones life. this is not I went 5mph too fast or I parked in a no parking. this is not an I slid on some ice and broke someones property.\n\nthose are accidents. stealing is a conscious choice. you literally have to commit MULTIPLE CRIMINALS ACTS IN A ROW in most cases to even get to the \"theft\" criminal act.\n\nYou have to decide to tresspass. you have to decide to break in. you have to decide to slink around in someones house without being noticed, you have to decide to take that which does not belong to you.\n\nI will not permit you to convert that into an accidental or simply \"bad choice\" you do not get to do that.\n\n\"It just feels less evil \" so still evil. you make my point for me.\n\n\"But in America, we make the CHOICE to pretend that everyone can individually pull themselves up by their bootstraps regardless of where they start from. \"\n\nDon't lump me in with that bullshit. there is no WE their.\n\n\" staring down the sights of your gun at some thieving hoodlum, you too have choices to make, and it's not always so simple to tell the right choice from the wrong.\"\n\nexcept in this case IT IS very simple to tell the right choice from wrong. that is my property. give it back. YES and you live NO and you don't\n\nits a pretty simple clear choice. maybe that is where you are unclear here. at NO POINT do I suggest SIMPLY gunning people down with my possessions. that is the reaction of an uneducated fool borderline animal.\n\nthe thief would be commanded to stop. commanded to put my possessions down. if he complies he gets to live. if he does not comply..... well his choice. the consequences are quite clear as I point my shotgun at him.\n\nRunning away is not an option unless he releases my property. I will still try to stop a fleeing suspect as I want him held to account with the law. if there are no consequences for his actions he will keep doing it. I WILL NOT however shoot him in the back. unless he still has my stuff. one way or another he is dropping my stuff. either by choice or by physical requirement of being shot.", "Exactly. I commented about that on his YT video. I feel that people forget the controversy of the first glitter bomb, where he admitted pretty much every \"thief\" was really a friend of his or a hired actor. \n\nHe would need to get them to sign releases, I cannot imagine he really went up to actual package thieves and did that. \n\nI also didn't like the idea of the car horn and stuff going off if someone opened it while they were driving. Wouldn't that be insanely dangerous, and possibly cause the person in the car to get injured in accident? What if they hit a pedestrian when they were terrified by the car horn going off? \n\nI just assume he stages all of these, at this point - there's no way any of this is real.", "You could argue that, if the release was \"let us use footage of you being a thief, mocking and making fun of you, and I'll make money off of that footage\". \n\nBut it's probably all fake like his first video where he had to apologize and admit the \"thieves\" were fake.", "Except that’s not what the release says, and no one would accept your argument that I’m extorting you. That verbiage is used frequently. “Do x and this ends now.” That’s not extortion.", "How do you know what the release says? Regardless - it's all fake, all of this is speculation. \n\nThe reality that no one who's a huge fan of him is willing to admit, - the reason some faces are not blurred, is because those are friends/actors pretending to be thieves. There is no way in hell he's getting actual criminals to agree to show their faces on camera.", "He has a lawyer, as mentioned in the video, so if the people are not actors and they are presented with a release drafted by their lawyer, it won’t have any extortion in it. That’s why you hire a lawyer. I know what’s not in the release if it’s written by a lawyer. \n\nDifferent places have different laws, and plenty of people are stupid enough to allow their face on the internet. I bet you would find a strong correlation with people stupid enough to steal packages with people dumb enough to be proud of it on the internet.\n\nFinally, that’s not what hyperbole means… nothing is a gross exaggeration.", "How many", "Six in the last two months in a fleet of 200.", "Wow, I lost all of my fleet of 400 cars to dudes with tractor beams. It’s getting hard out here 😤", ">Finally, that’s not what hyperbole means… nothing is a gross exaggeration.\n\nI meant speculation, changed it. \n\nJust like your comment here, continues to be pure speculation. Hell, even me saying it's fake is speculation. But I still bet my speculation is more right than yours is. Criminals can be stupid - I choose not to believe these ones were THAT stupid. Especially when taking into consideration that he's lied to viewers in his past videos about the authenticity of the content.", "It’s not speculation to say that a release drafted by a lawyer will not have any extortion.\n\nYou hire a lawyer to draft it, because they’re experienced and knowledgeable in the law. Furthermore, a lawyer legally cannot advise you on how to break the law, and a lawyer would face disbarment as well as criminal prosecution if they start extorting people.", "I work for a car rental company. Is it really that hard to believe lol? What is wrong with you.", "> getting too drunk with my cousins \n\nsweet home alabama", "There is no option, if indeed it is \"we use your likeness, or we will go to the police\". \n\nThat is a threat. Any \"choice\" made in this situation is under duress - it's NOT the choice the thief normally would have made, they were coerced into it. \n\nI'm arm-chair lawyering as much as the rest of you, but this notion that the thieves were given a CHOICE in this matter is ridiculous. \"sign this release, or else...\" is not a choice, it's blackmail.", "...you know he's a millionaire, right?", "Are you suggesting people should just start murdering package thieves?", "I had to scroll way too far, to find someone who shares my concern. I shared it on the comment section of the video as well, not surprised he hasn't responded. \n\nWhat if that car horn sound, or the spray, or the glitter caused the driver to smash into a crowd of people, or another car, killing/maiming others or even the thief themselves? \n\nThis is why I maintain this is all faked, because I cannot imagine Mark Rober's lawyers, or the police, would actually be very happy with the idea of him causing serious harm to others.", "are you mentally retarded or do you just not speak english?\n\nI don't think you ever ENTERED the discussion if you can't even read such simple statements. I never agree to disagree. ever.", "Look man you said your points. I said mine, no need to be insulting. You don’t agree with my viewpoint and I don’t agree with yours. Maybe you are right. Maybe I am. Who knows. Either way we clearly are not going to sway one another so it is a bit of a waste of time to continue.", "> That could also be categorized as extortion/blackmail.\n\nNo, it literally cannot. Don't spread false information because you are too lazy to do even a 30 second Google search.", "This is excellent, thanks for writing this up. I hear so, SO many armchair lawyers on the internet (several in this thread) that don't have even a rudimentary understanding of the law on paper, let alone the law in practice and precedent, and refuse to do even a basic Google search. I enjoy watching First Amendment auditors, and my god, so many of them think they know the law so well and don't know dick. Good on you for educating people!", "Problem is, according to Alphabet, they do* have a claim, even if it isn't legally valid...which is usually enough for Google to take down videos and investigate after the fact...except it is Mark Rober, so they won't do that because he makes them BANK.", "> we won't press charges, guaranteed\n\nYou don't get to decide whether or not to charge someone - that's the district attorney. People get confused by this because of TV, etc. It could actually be obstruction of justice to make a side deal with a criminal to not testify, etc.", "> they're typically only illegal when they use force in a way t\n\nIf a glitter bomb went off and sprayed glitter in someone's eyes and caused an injury, Rober could be in trouble, both criminally and civilly. if someone opened it in a car, and caused the driver to crash the car, it could be even worse. If fart spray gives someone an allergic reaction, etc, etc.", "NO. that's not how this works. your viewpoint is wrong. mine is right. I think I have proven this. you have not proven yours or proven anything other than mine.\n\nYou intentionally misquote me and then you double down by ACTUALLY quoting me and then pretending it says something else even though you just literally copy pasted it so you KNOW it does not say what you claim.\n\nhow else should I respond?", "Yes this is what I meant by “YT’s takedown process is all sorts of fucked.”", "There's absolutely no way a pawnshop would offer $400 for a Homepod. Is this fake?", "Problem is my viewpoint is wrong in your opinion and yours is wrong in my opinion. You have not proven anything but rather provided your opinion on the matter. You cannot prove something with science that is ethics based. If the issue was clearly correct one way or another then every countries laws would align on it. On this issue the vast majority of countries would put you in prison for shooting a gun at someone’s back who is running away, who was not an immediate threat to your life. \n\nIf we consider that every country has considered this issue and the vast majority have decided that shooting someone in the back who has stolen your camera is a crime then I would wager that would lean it towards me being correct. \n\nBut I am not saying either of us is correct as it is an issue of ethics and there are no right or wrong answers, just general consensus. 200 years ago perhaps more people in the world would have agreed with your viewpoint. Today more people in the world probably agree with mine. It doesn’t make mine right or yours wrong.", "No. He won't press charges as none of the people will likely get convicted as he wants the package to be taken. It's sort of like leaving Halloween candy on your porch in that way. Now, the \"victims\" of this prank will likely lose if they sue since they wanted to steal the property regardless of its condition. \n\nThe help he offers to the police next year though will be more official meaning no actual pranks (glitter bomb, fart spray), meaning the video he can use will likely be after legal action (ie charges pressed) and no need for release statements.", "If he did it in exchange for not pressing charges? Maybe. Likely he was never going to press charges since it's easily proven he wants these to be stolen. The release statement is just a formality to not blur the voice/faces and not have to compensate when that happens.", "I, for one havn't watched much since. The momentum just fell off for me given that due dilligence was not met, trusting a friend or not.", "I would sooo like the Glitter Bomb 5.0 to spray a sticky substance that will adhere the pre-tee glitter to anyone near the “package”. \nBy the bye, when I lived in Dallas there was a massive attack by porch pirates.", "I never claimed any such thing. You are adding goal posts that don't exist in this discussion\n I dictate what my actions would in fact be. I don't really care what the law declares them to be.", "You don’t address anything that I said. Obviously you make your own choices. Doesn’t mean they are right or wrong. They are your own. Fact remains they are your opinions of right and wrong, as are mine. I agree to disagree with you because I think you are wrong but I also think you are entitled to be wrong and not going to be swayed any other direction by an internet stranger. Same goes for me. Stalemate. You can think whatever you want. I think you are wrong and your point of view is self centred and sad and you would actually think differently if you ever acted on it. Have a good Christmas. Done here.", "Its to prevent the next 1000 crimes, not just to get your shit back.", "Regardless I have no doubt in my mind that most of these are absolutely fake.", "I don't have to address anything you said because you did not address anything \"I\" said. so why in the world would I address irrelevant opinion you add that is unrelated to anything I said???\n\nI am right. I think the idea that a thief should be allowed to just walk away with my stuff and you think it is wrong for me to stop them is selfish self centered immoral and wrong. Your position is very sad.\n\nNow we are done here.", "Can you please have the porch pirates arrested??????", "To be fair , many countries on Europe are tens of times smaller than the us\n\nMy country , Mexico loves to compare our social programs to Sweden, Swiss or new Zeland when we are 10 times more people and implementing those social programs at scale is imposible", "That’s not what that means. I can secretly record you as much as I please. I just can’t use my secret recording as evidence in a court of law.", "That’s for telephone communication, not video recording. Learn to read before you act like you know better.", "Except that there is no communication happening between Mark and the porch pirates, so this law is completely irrelevant. You’re still an idiot.", "if people who stole shit were beaten or killed. i think we have less people stealing things that others worked hard for.", "Oh yea if you don’t live in dirty America then yea I believe you that you have good insurance for such things \n\nUnfortunately we tend to forget this is a global site my bad", "Right? We’re just ass backwards there’s all there is to it", "Ewww sorry but you need to work on your comprehension and how the system works \n\nYou’re probably one of the ones that think if your car gets stolen the cops are going to work their hardest to help you out \n\nI truly feel sorry for you 😬", "Not ridiculous fuckn terrifying lmao \n\nWhat it rly shows is that it’s 2022 and humans still value material things over human life", "Only thing that makes me question some of the video is that a few of the perps are wearing masks INSIDE their home.", ">It's well known that other states will legitimately buy bus tickets to the destination of their choice and give unhoused people chunks of money to go elsewhere.\n\nThen solve the problem federally. Social housing and free rehab + cheap therapists would solve a ton of issues", "The problem is that it is possible an innocent person gets involved (if two 16 year olds open the package in their parents' living room for example)", "Late to the party but as someone who got an awesome opportunity to work at NASA for 2 years I can say I only got the job because of someone I knew. Was I qualified? Probably, but I most likely would have been looked over had it not been for a friend, just based purely on numbers of applications\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThis doesn't just apply at NASA though, that's how a lot of things work", ">Hmmm, I do wonder what would have happened if the guy driving crashed his car.\n\ni wonder too. I hope that never happens but instead hits a tree and kills himself.", "Then let's hope the other people are fine and the stealing piece of trash dies in a fire.", "> it's that poor people are desperate enough to take a risk on stealing.\n\nfucking horseshit. People steal because they're greedy cunts. Look at these people, the vast majority are severely overweight which implies that they're stuffing themselves with food they could well do without. I don't care how poor you are, that gives you no goddamn right to steal the presents from under my Christmas tree. I worked for that, i payed for that. You're addressing a whole separate issue.", "I live in an Australian city of over a million people and most couriers have the option of either an SMS notification or a phonecall to ensure handover, if you aren't home they take it to a depot. Most of the time I don't opt for this cause porch pirates aren't really a thing here." ]	1,411	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfrgiz/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rfrgiz/deleted_by_user/	[ "Wow, that one guy opened it while driving. Imagine if Mark had recorded his device causing a traffic accident, on four phones. What a maroon. He didn't even record any satisfying reactions.", "Aw man, I need 5.0 right now.", "> Imagine if Mark had recorded his device causing a traffic accident\n\nThe device did not open and activate itself.", "OK, but tell that to the innocent family in the oncoming lane when the glitter bomb goes off and the thief goes into them head-on.", "Maybe the family you invented would agree with me that the ultimate responsibility lays with the driver of that Vehicle. Opening stolen merchandise while driving is generally not considered a proper part of operating a moving vehicle.", "You're right, Mark should have just made the glitter bomb be an actual bomb, since lethal vengeance against random people would probably suit your sense of justice better. If they didn't want to be blown to smithereens then they shouldn't have performed the immoral act of theft, which they are culpable for. I'm sorry about your partially developed brain though; my condolences to the other people who are close to you in life.", "If you steal a package that was sent from the Unabomber and the resulting explosion causes you to crash your car into oncoming traffic then at least some of that blood is on your hands… or stumps. Do you generally think it’s okay to open your mail while driving?", "No I don't, I also don't steal packages, and I ALSO don't leave boobytrapped packages around hoping they'll be stolen! I'll tell you what I DO do, is drive on public roads, and hope none of the other cars I'm sharing the road with have bombs going off inside them.", "And I hope that the people I share the road with are doing nothing other than driving. Not talking on their phone, applying makeup, eating or opening packages. I really don’t get how the driver in this fabricated scenario would get a pass.", "I really don't get how you don't get that this isn't just about the driver", "Because, from where I’m standing, everything that goes wrong in that scenario occurs as a consequence to the driver’s bad decisions. If the driver doesn’t steal the package then it just sits on a porch where it causes no harm. If the drivers pulls over or waits until they get home to open the package then it causes no harm. All of the harm in the scenario is caused by the driver deciding to do something that nobody should be doing while driving a ton of mass at high velocity. Opening an unidentified sealed package that doesn’t fling glitter, flash lights or spray shit mist in your face could cause an accident. Yeah, adding those elements might raise the risk but it shouldn’t get that far to begin with." ]	11	videos	[deleted by user]
https://twitter.com/mitchell_knight/status/1469656473068265479?s=21	/r/videos/comments/rfrgm6/deadly_kentucky_tornado/	[ "Not the one to video or make Twitter post", "It’s already terrifying enough. To add total darkness on top of it… damn.", "Absolute nightmare fuel.\n\nThose poor people." ]	3	videos	Deadly Kentucky tornado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_dRvbyGSfM	/r/videos/comments/rfs6ux/between_100_million_and_a_billion_birds_die_in/	[ "drones", "So are we going to be told to ban windows now?", "It's the only logical conclusion", "That’s a rather large spread. Gave themselves a 900 million range. \n\n“Experts estimate that somewhere between 2 and 100 billion birds die each year” /s", "My cat does more damage.", "Yes. Please remove your windows. Thank you. \n\\~Them", "Thanks for sharing. It is, indeed, upsetting when that happens.", "berds are so dumb", "Fun fact. For this reason, NYC has recently implemented a regulation requiring new windows in high rise buildings to be fritted, ie not completely transparent.", "Reminds me of the time when i was in training to be a certified plumber in germany and was putting in with a work mate a new central heating unit in a house and i was looking for some parts and just heard a loud \\plong\\* and a bird dropped dead outside (and the window wasnt even that big maybe 2x1,5m", "So refreshing that when he said 'and if you liked this tip' it wasn't immediately followed by 'please like and subscribe and hit the notification bell' lol", "Yeah, it's unethical to have them. Wait don't tell me... You.. You are a window-haver???", "Yes. Yes! I LIKE TO SEE OUTSIDE MY EFFING HOUSE. \n\nYou’ll have to pry my windows out of my cold dead hands you view nazis!", "[Wow, what a nice view.](https://sustainability.eku.edu/sites/sustainability.eku.edu/files/images/Science%20Building/20190909_111902.jpg)", "Yeah, it's got \"average human eats six spiders in their sleep\" chainmail energy to it.", "Bullshit. 5,500 birds per state, per day on the low end.", "We're only against windows because we think time should be spent productively at starring at der Führer.", "That is why I don't clean my windows, and I am lazy.", "If the estimate is that 100M birds fly in to windows each year, how is it that up to 10x that amount die from hitting windows? Surely not every bird that flies into a window dies, so the number of birds killed would have to be less than the number of birds that hit windows in the first place, not more, right?", "The average human male has a sex with 0-100 solar systems each year. It’s truly eye opening- and today, we’re going to investigate", "There is a type of ['bird-safe' glass](https://www.businessinsider.com/bird-safe-glass-windows-arnold-glas-ornilux-2020-7) that takes advantage of bird's ability to see ultraviolet light.", "There's got to be a higher tech solution than that. That looks like an idea from 1950 not 2021.", "In the US, feral and free ranging domestic cats are the top human-caused threat to wildlife, killing an estimated 1.3 to 4 billion birds and 6.3 to 22.3 billion mammals annually\n\nAccording to. Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute and U.S. Fish and Wildlife\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife\n\nThis has lead to a few extinct species. Such as on the island of wren where one cat named Tibbles killed entire species. Happened to be the closest living relative to the dodo bird...", "Read the title again. One is US, the other is UK.", "Desktop version of /u/Eziekel13's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "I heard you get the same effect with thin white vertical lines", "If one single individual animal can kill off an entire species to extinction, I am pretty sure the species was on its way out already and not fit for any kind of survival in the first place.", "Already questioned years ago and most probably bullshit \n\n\nhttps://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2013/02/03/170851048/do-we-really-know-that-cats-kill-by-the-billions-not-so-fast", "Why does this sound like the usual fear mongering chainmail bullshit again? Between 100 million and a billion? That is a HUGE margin. I call bullshit.", "They literally have stickers that do this", "That only works on portrait birds, like they have in english gardens. If you've got landscape birds you need horizontal stripes, too, and then it turns into plaid and everyone knows polkadots are cheaper than plaid.", "Yeah I’m not excited about it.", "To be fair though, that title is shit.", "It's one order of magnitude. The real number is in the hundreds of millions, but there's clearly no way to know for certain. Only estimates.\n\nYour comment is stupd.", "I don’t remember asking your fucking opinion you pretentious ass. Piss off.", "You commented on a public forum. Be prepared for replies next time.", "I didn’t state a scientific fact, merely an observation and a little satire that doesn’t really require a debate. Calling such a comment “stupid” is about as productive as this study. Going out of your way to formulate such a response when one is not necessary says a bit about your personality. So go ahead O’Great Statistical One. Enlighten us with your wealth of knowledge on the ways of bird death counting!!", "Bizarre comment.", "Even the [trendy](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2d/40/c9/2d40c981801ac0986156f71b731dfcd2.jpg) new versions are le bummer. But hey, if it saves the birds 🤷🏻‍♂️", "How about you both eat each other’s dicks so you don’t have to be showing them in such vulgar public displays", "You first.", "I personally only suck dicks for money.", "[A small fraction of what cats kill.](https://www.audubon.org/news/how-stop-cats-killing-birds)", "Why not use [these things](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71JjcTMfbCL._AC_SX355_.jpg)", ">Tibbles\n\nOh and by the way, Tibbles just happened to kill the last Lyall's Wren, not the entire Wren population on the island. \n\n\"For the death of the last Stephens Island wren, a cat named Tibbles who was the lighthouse keeper's cat was given the blame. However, the extinction event went on for more than two years, and many feral cats of the island were found to be the reason for wiping the Lyall's wren out of existence\"\n\nhttps://kidadl.com/animal-facts/stephens-island-wren-facts" ]	45	videos	Between 100 million and a billion birds die in the US each year after striking windows , in the UK the British Trust for Ornithology estimated a few years ago that 100 million birds hit windows each year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ7YkL3jIvw	/r/videos/comments/rfswt6/drivers_car_crashes_in_worst_road_compilation/	[ "This title gave me a stroke", "BBC piece on the issue [here](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-59641534).\n\n>A number of vehicles including a police van have been caught on camera colliding with bollards on a residential street. \n \n> \n>The width restriction on Woodmere Avenue in Watford was introduced a decade ago to deter larger vehicles from using the road but regular accidents have occurred in recent months since it was made even narrower. \n \n> \n>They were captured on CCTV by Tim Vigor, who lives opposite. He said: \"One Saturday morning, there were three cars written-off in the space of about two hours, so I put the camera up and I think it has calmed down a bit.\" \n \n> \n>Hertfordshire County Council said it had applied for powers that would enable it to replace the width restriction with a camera and fines for the drivers of wide vehicles.", "So if your car is too wide, you hit the bollards? Do they have anything that warns you that your car is too wide before you go crunch?", "They would have to, but if you are in a car I would imagine you ignore most restrictions. I couldn't tell you how wide my car is or how heavy it is.", "That last line... I wonder how long theyve been trying to get that camera...", "Weird, that’s 7’. We have loads of 6’ 6” versions in Buckinghamshire that don’t take that much shit. Maybe it looks narrower and people actually slow the fuck down because of it.", "Well this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_3xnTNCk8E) is from 2 years ago.", "What the hell is making them pop behind the shrub?", "r/titlegore", "This is nerve racking to watch and I lived in Los Angeles where literal maniacs are behind the wheel.", "It isn't my video. I just copied the title from youtube.", "There is an earlier video from the other side [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_3xnTNCk8E)." ]	12	videos	Drivers Car Crashes in Worst Road Compilation Traffic width restrictions Watford Caught on Camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c584TGG7jQ	/r/videos/comments/rfsz0j/exploding_glitter_bomb_40_vs_package_thieves/	[ "God dammit I was just about to post that too. \nIts really awesome to see Markrober continually improve upon the design every year. \nIm already excited to see what is in store for year 5.\n\nCheers to you u/willoftheland and have fun with the inevitable karma flood.", "What's up with the method of blurring? Some are blurred and others aren't, what does it depend on?", "makes me feel good knowing all these thieves live in crappy homes and are morbidly obese", "Love this, every time I see it" ]	3	videos	EXPLODING Glitter Bomb 4.0 vs. Package Thieves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srBkMsnGn8A	/r/videos/comments/rft0qt/a_spy_movie/	[ "<3", "Not going to watch it but that ginger is fine af", "Watched the whole thing with my GF yesterday. \n\nHas some fucking hilarious moments tbh", "Watch some of their other (shorter) content. They've made some great stuff", "Heck yeah!!!", "some of the funniest people alive tbh", "Love both of them. This is hilarious", "What?!? This is the best thing I’ve ever seen", "Omg thank you so much!!", "Thank youuuuu", "Thank you!!!", "That’s what we like to hear!!", "😭😭😭gracias!!!", "I watched this yesterday, it is an immediate cult classic. They are SO funny. Also, if you haven’t seen The Gay and Wonderous Life of Caleb Gallo, pause this, go watch that, then come back to this.", "This is a fucking great movie. And proves you can do super entertaining engaging stuff on a microscopic budget", "Will be rewatching on new year's Eve because it was such a funny movie!\nAlso do follow Brian Jordan Alvarez's Instagram. His characters are just such a blast and make my day!", "Looooooove Caleb Gallo, can't wait to watch this!", "This is so excellent, you both did a great job but overall (and this is meant as a genuine compliment not a backhanded one) I was surprised at how absolutely competent it was!! Her writing and editing were better than some studio movies I’ve seen.\nAlso, it’s fucking hilarious. The dancing alone ☠️", "Literally watched the whole thing with the fam laughing our asses off the whole time 💖", "Thank you thank you!!!", "Brian being both jack and the villainess is hilarious. Also hes so good at them that I have to put in conscious effort to realize its both him.\n\nAlso steph, whos so good in this as well, visually reminds me of a young pamela falcon.", "I know, Stephanie is a genius!!! I am so grateful the world gets to see more and more of it every day!!!!", "Haha!", "Woah- the man himself!? \n\nMy girlfriend and I have been fans of your work for ages! \n\nYour daily short uploads in various characters make my day better every time. Especially the Aussie lifters with tiny heads lmao 🤣", "I’ve been watching Brian’s content for years, and Spy Movie is truly special. I’ve been cackling all morning😂. Love Stephanie, too", "I used to absolutely HATE to laugh, but then this movie made me do it so many times that I’m starting to turn my opinion on humor around. Thanks Brian and Stephanie!", "This movie was hilarious! They have you laughing within the first minute and it doesn't stop.", "And end to end masterpiece", "A tour de force in the art of living laughing and loving. Thank you", "There are so many hilarious moments in this movie! I watched it twice.", "The writing, acting, absurd characters, and surreal sequences make this an instant cult classic. I’ll give it a year before we start seeing posters on freshman dorm walls, audience participation bits at live screenings, and live renditions in dingy theaters nationwide.\n\nI stg people were just lamenting the death of the “funny movie” but the rumors have clearly been greatly exaggerated.", "been watchin them forever and their humor is always just tight on the money", "Literally the only thing wrong is no Freckle cameo but omg grade A. Forcing all my friends to watch", "watched this over the weekend. SO GOOD!!", "Watched this tonight, can't recall the last time I had so many laughs with a YouTube \"video\". It's given us so much joy seeing all these familiar faces on screen again. And now we're watching Caleb (again)", "Hilarious movie made by a team of geniuses 💖", "I watched this twice yesterday.", "Just got cozy cozy and ready to laugh my ass off!!!! I love y’all!", "iconic truly", "Watch this masterpiece get snubbed by the irrelevant Oscars!🙄", "Absolutely loved it!!! Stephanie Koenig is a comedy genius!!", "Creative and comedic geniuses ❤", "Love love love this!! You guys did an AMAZING job. It was hilarious", "Discovered BJA at start of pandemic Im a huge fan, a lot of Brian’s YouTube videos helped me through lock down, I love your movie you guys are the best.", "Casey Frey was hilarious as always!", "The astroturfing here is insane.", "Seriously one of the funniest movies I’ve seen in a while. Stephanie is so multifaceted and talented, as is Brian (low key was hoping for an Erik BTW cameo, but still 10/10 without it lol). Really, the whole cast is great, and i’d definitely recommend this!", "My partner and I have watched Grandmothers Gold a couple of times. A hilarious and unique movie with a surprising amount of world building. \n\nA Spy Movie is just as great!", "So so terrific, hope it gets it's due and more people give it a lash, just pitch perfect daftness." ]	49	videos	A SPY MOVIE
https://youtu.be/3c584TGG7jQ	/r/videos/comments/rftqrs/mark_robers_4th_glitter_bomb_against_packe_thieves/	[ "The thing that amazes and saddens me is that these people are living in quite nice homes. They're not desperate. Why is theft so prevalent in the USA?", "What a beautiful holiday tradition.", "At what point is it just a bomb?", "Yeah, wasn't really a fan last year, not a fan this year. Congrats of Mark Rober for dunking on petty porch theft, the dregs of all lower crime. Look, nobody likes a criminal, but I just can't get stoked about seeing some affluent guy using his privilege and talents to dunk on the lower class (and monetize the dunking). And again - Mark is my people. I'm also an engineer. But I spend my time making things to make people happy, not make people sad.\n\nBut maybe you hate the criminals. So fuck'em. And get Mark his paycheck. Okay, sure, you can feel that way. I'm not going to argue anymore against those beliefs. But should they die? I'm asking because, in the video, someone opened up the package in their car. And, I mean, given the circumstances, is that really so unlikely? Something spraying fart juice, gobs of glitter, and blaring a horn at you, while you're driving, could easily distract enough to cause a crash. And, okay, maybe the porch pirate will die, and that's \"pretty based\", but they could take someone else out too. And for what? A viral video?\n\nI just think it's too much. If he made a video dunk on white collar crime, I think it'd be way more interesting.", "When \"glitter\" is removed from the title.", "Ah yes, the only holiday movie I need", "Some of footage in these videos was confirmed to be faked, to what degree I have no idea. The footage of the pawnshop looks the most suspicious for sure.", "Idk about nice, some of them looked like straight up hoarders.", "Any source?", "Welcome to youtube and non disclosure agreements. \n\nDo people think Mr Beast really gives all that money away?", "Amazing that you're worried that some jackass who is opening a package while driving is going to be distracted, as if opening a package while driving isn't already negligent operation of the vehicle, but don't seem to give one whit that an appreciable number of packages stolen by porch pirates are medications.\n\nFuck 'em.", "Everytime I see people fixated on punishing petty crimes, I think of [this](https://files.epi.org/2014/snapshot-wage-theft-09-18-2014.png) infographic. White collar crimes like wage theft are far more damaging than petty theft, and get far less attention than they should.\n\nI think it's a bit hyperbolic of you to suggest that these glitter bombs are putting people's lives at risk, but yeah, this kind of content based around the idea of punishing criminals does leave a bad taste in my mouth.", "Lots of those are probably rented", "You’re free to not like it, but I do. I like the element of FAFO being added to theft.", "What if what he stole was an actual bomb? Or a dildo and the shock made him crash his car? What a stupid fucking take. Don't defend shitty ass thieves", "seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen. A very costly one.", "It's easy to stop petty crime. You can't exactly engineer a device to stop wage theft", "Serious question; if this device was opened in a moving vehicle and that vehicle then crashed and either caused serious bodily harm or death, would Mark in any way be responsible?", "This was my wondering. That one clip from inside the car certainly sounded like he’d scared an emergency honk out of another driver.", "> It's easy to stop petty crime\n\nThen why do we still have petty crime? Do you honestly believe that Rober's glitter bombs have reduced the number of package thefts by any statistically significant amount?", "Oh god the one guy who nearly pawned it for $400. Almost won out without even knowing it", "Pussy", "Stealing is so trashy. It's hard for me not to be so angry at these people. 2 million packages a year stolen is absolutely insane.", "Porch pirating is prevalent because it's relatively easy to get away with. Even if you're seen on camera it's not hard to cover yourself up - and the police won't do much about it either way. \n\nA crime of opportunity that needs almost no setup or planning. So you see all sorts of people doing it.", "Concerntroll, fuck off.", "He needs to use permanent ink.", "They were gonna do that anyway given their shit driving habits. Would have been looking for the french fries at the bottom of the bag, or texting, or whatever.", "Around 3-4 days ago I was getting last year glitter bomb recommendations. I wonder does Mark have a uptick on views for these every year, where people are sharing it, which pushes hype for a new release!", "He seems to have it configured well that it only happens when they open the package, which would argue its the drivers fault for not paying attention. It does have some false starts though as stated in the video, but that seems to only when people are very rough with it", "It's easy to make money too but we still have poor people. And yes I do think it's helped mainly because of the exposure.", "I wouldn't care if these packages were lethal in design. Porch pirates are scum. I always think if they're capable of that, what other shit are they capable of?", "> Rober said he removed a minute and a half of the footage from the original video after learning that some of the “thieves” were actually acquaintances of the person he asked to help plant the packages on doorsteps. Rober said he agreed to compensate the person, who was a friend of a friend, based on the number of packages that were successfully recovered.", "Idk why you reply this deep into a comment chain. The other post has 0 upvotes.", "Hey, let's fucking \"what if\" all day about shit that didn't happen.", "This a good question, but they did steal the package in the first place. I wonder if that would nullify any responsibility of the original owner. He also said in the beginning that his lawyers were adamant that he couldn’t sell these things. My guess his lawyers have combed his videos thoroughly to minimize/negate any liability. But that’s just my opinion.", "Holy shit. It is unconscionable to me that people like you exist now.", "Surprised if you know it’s the glitter bomb that you don’t take it outside and grab all the phones out of it. Probably 2-2g’s in phones.", "So many thieves wearing covid masks inside their homes..", "It's not about need, it's about taking advantage. \n\nTurns out rich people are good at taking advantage of people :O", "No, because these are staged.", "I'm 100% certain if he had agreed to $400, the pawn shop would still have looked inside the package before handing over the cash.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rfrghk/exploding_glitter_bomb_40_vs_package_thieves_mark/", "Like, does he even contact the police? He has a tracking device and footage of the thieves, so does he contact the police?\n\nI think a video of him contacting the police would be way more interesting. You could drop the glitter and shit, just keep the cameras and gps. I'd bet 9/10 the police wouldn't even come, even with photo and GPS information. And what an amazing conversation that could start. Rather than having video evidence of petty crime and poor people getting dunked, we could have video evidence of police being incompetent in X district. That can overturn an election, clean up communities, and actually improve society.", "Does Mark Rober contact the police? I couldn't find information in the description.", "I don't blame him, since it's basically an easy formula for views and $$$. Mixing vigilante justice with pranks, with engineering a random product. To top it all off, if he released the original videos and people had bad reactions to it, or anywhere along the series, he can just claim that they were all faked and he was doing it with proper security, consent etc.\n\nDefinitely staged though. It's the path of least resistance in cases where there's zero transparency required. Still fun for a lot of people.", "How? If you buy something at a store and open it in the car and something happens is it the stores fault?\n\nThe fact this is even a question troubles me.", "I thought YouTube didn't allow bullying or acts of terrorism. Not only that, but he actually missed quite a lot of blurring of faces (the blur missed in some areas, since it's 3 cameras). I reported the video regardless, as this is obviously against YouTube guidelines (but I doubt YouTube sponsors follow those).\n\nIf you steal a package, it shouldn't give someone the right to upload the punishment to millions of people.\n\nIt's very wrong, but these are definitely staged to avoid all this. Why put yourself and others at so much risk when you and everyone who watches can just pretend like it's real?", "Was his crossover with Jim Browning also staged?\n\nIs all of Jim Browning's content also staged?\n\nAre you staged?", "He should be, but I also am inclined to believe it’s not “real.” I know that porch pirates are a thing, but having it happen that many times in what looks to be a nice neighborhood?.. \n\nI’ve had my catalytic converter stolen and known others who have as well, I don’t know anyone who has been porch pirated, let alone 3-4 times.", "I don't know who that is, but I think he's the tech support scammer video guy right?\n\nYeah a lot of those anti-scammer videos are staged.\n\nI could be staged. How are you going to tell?", "/r/nothingeverhappens", "The original video came after he contacted the police and they did nothing. That's why he started doing this himself.", "Yeah knowing what is staged and what isn't means that everything is staged...\n\nLike how knowing what foods are bad for you and what aren't makes everything bad.", "All places in the US you can give people opportunities to commit crimes and they won't. Petty theft is committed by people across the spectrum, in all parts of the country. People aren't supporting themselves with random stolen packages. They just get a thrill (and some extra loot) from doing it.", "Your username is fitting, you may truly have tetrasomy. \n\nHave a good night, oh mighty arbitrator of reality.", "You don't get the reference for my username, you're like the 400th person so far. That's okay, that's why it's there lmao.\n\n>oh mighty arbitrator of reality.\n\nThat sounds fitting, do you call everyone with a functional brain that?", "He needs to do this, but instead of glitter, its a flamethrower.", "There is no references, you just have four x chromosomes and it caused all of the consequences one could expect from it. I am sorry for your condition.", "Aahahha yeah you definitely didn't get the reference.", "Scary to think I've now seen 4 in what doesn't feel like a 4yr time span", "If you buy a bag of chips at the store and when you open it in your car a viper jumps out causing you to swerve into traffic there is an issue because there is a proximate cause which was not reasonably foreseeable. If you knowingly put vipers in chips bags, there is likely still some liability on your part even if the chips were stolen.", "I hate packe thieves! I think? What’s a packe? …nevermind.", "This that same douche that staged his first glitter bomb video? Yeah, no thanks", "Possibly. However, people can somehow still have liability if a bugler breaks into your house and gets injured, so who the hell knows.", "If you open a bottle and the store and it fizzles and overflows. Is it the stores fault. What if the taste surprises you and close your eyes in pure ectasy... It's called personal responsibility", "What if a passenger in the front opens the package though?", "When there is actual combustion or maybe shrapnel involved? This doesn’t come close to “actually a bomb”", "No.\n\nMark would be at fault. There's already been cases which set the precedent for this, including the aforementioned example of the burglar suing the person he was robbing.\n\nIt doesn't matter if you think it makes sense, this is already decided.", "I always wonder what these scum look like, and now I’m not surprised", "Lol what? A bottle fizzing is a reasonably foreseeable occurrence from opening a soda bottle, an apple product box containing a self-triggering car horn is not. It’s about proportionate liability. The same reason we outlaw offensive home security. Robbers are in the wrong but that doesn’t mean you can put landmines in your yard.", "What about the offensive flavour? Your argument is bad and you should feel bad", "I'm looking these things up and I can't understand why a pawn shop would have even paid $400 for it. The highest price I can find is $450. They know it's PROBABLY stolen, so why pay even close to retail for it?", "That's an urban legend. \n\nHomeowners are limited in their use of deadly force and aren't allowed to set booby traps and that's pretty much it, or if the injury is related to use of a pool or trampoline. \n\nhttps://www.rodriguezlaw.net/can-burglar-sue-injury/\n\nEdit* the urban legend is based on a single incidence where someone fell through the skylight of a school.\n\nhttps://rogerdavidheiser.com/burglar-fell-roof-frivolous-personal-injury-lawsuits", "What aforementioned examples?", "The fact that he keeps doing this to these trashy ass worthless pieces of crap just makes my day", "Yessss, just like those blue ink thinks they put in bags of money that are stolen", "I’m sure they’re just cheap android phones", "In this law discussion between users serial_mouth_grapist and RussellBrandFagPimp, it seems to me that the grapist is making the stronger argument.", "I didn’t look at your link and I have very limited knowledge, but in the US, I believe that it’s mostly on a state by state basis.", "Found the scummy petty thief.", "He didn't make any law references you dolt", "First of all, I was mostly poking fun at the silly user names discussing law. So chill.\n\nSecond of all, you didn't reference any laws either but your comparisons were also shit. So there you go.", "To be fair, booby trapping is definitely illegal in some (if not most) states.", "When you buy a soda there is a reasonable expectation that it might fizzle like that. So you accept that responsibility. However if you bought a soda and when you opened it a bunch of bees flew out and stung you then you have a legal claim. \n\nI don't know what the courts would say about this box causing a crash but your comparison isn't very valid.", "It's not really true though, please provide an actual source for that claim.", "because it’s staged. Their faces aren’t blurred.", "The thrill. The rush.", "I think its unfair to judge someone and dole out a death sentence because of what you assume they do. \n\nThe world would be a terrifying place if you were in charge.", "A tear gas canister inside the package would do better than fart spray.", "Mark wouldn’t be responsible. Although the device fits the definition of a weapon, the cause of the accident would be from the distraction it causes, and not the weapon’s effects itself. \n\nFurthermore, a “bomb” has 3 different activation modes.\n\n1. Set off by the victim.\n\n2. Timed.\n\n3. Set off my the attacker. \n\nSince the weapon fits the 1. Category, It’s a problem for the victim, Because in order for the device to activate the driver needs to take their eyes off the road and preoccupy themselves with opening it. \n\nWhich is like saying mcdonalds should be charged because someone was digging into their meal while driving. \n\nIf a passenger were to open the box, and the distraction came about. I would say that the driver was in no reasonable danger and therefore the weapon wouldn’t have been a cause for damage. it’s like a jet fighter flying above and a driver averting their attention to watch the jet. You could argue that they don’t know the weapon is pretty much harmless but still.\n\nThe reason why the weapon is problematic legally is because this thing would be ordered by anyone who has any enemy they want to annoy, and not for package thieves who will just vandalise the house in retaliation anyway.\n\nhe won’t tell you that part though.", "These videos are so obnoxious.", "I’m with this guy. Rober’s videos are all just weird child fantasies. They typically create pollution for shock and awe. Nothing is very informative all surface level bullshit.", "You know who else is scum? People that believe in execution for the theft of some air pods.", "That’s not how the law works, unfortunately. \n\nBurglars can and have even sued and won lawsuits against, homeowners when they get hurt breaking into their house if the house was intentionally set up with booby traps.", "I’m heartbroken you feel that way.\n\nJust kidding, I don’t give a fuck.", "I mean in the case the punishment is also petty. It’s not like he’s hunting down these petty criminals and turning them in. He’s doing something to them that’s at best inconvenient and annoying. It fits the crime.", "Oh well.", "Cool, so you understand exactly how your parents feel about your existence!", "The majority of faces throughout the video weren't blurred.", "Perfect example in the middle of this vid with the girl that was going to flip a coin on whether or not to open it. Very clearly not a normal thing for her. But she did it on a whim and was debating whether to reap the reward of her misdeed. It’s definitely not entirely about the money.", "Talked to them earlier. They seem OK with things.\n\nHow’s your mom, The Throat GOAT, doing? Still got that gawk gawk down? Oops, I might have let that slip, you knew right?l", "Isn’t there also something along the lines of “if you’re committing a crime and in the process unintentionally commit another crime or cause damages, you’re accountable for both? As in, the driver of the getaway car can be charged with murder if the robbers shoot/kill the cashier. (US)", "You a porch pirate bro?", "I am going to sprinkle some glitter on my porch\n\nyou know, \n\n&#x200B;\n\nas insurance", "I was just making a lil joke", "It’s the most wonderful time of the year.", "Given how many people have brought up this issue I imagine he'll make use of the tracking to detect if the package is moving over 5mph or something (similar to how actual GPS stops working above certain speeds)", "Glitter is letting them off too easy, he should do a surströmming bomb instead. The reaction would be priceless! \n\nFor those who don’t know what it is:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/HaJQq4K-byw", "then the majority are staged then aren’t they", "The inconsistency in the blurred faces is due to different privacy laws in different states", "Or it's not a legal requirement to blur their faces in those states, mixed with some of the clips being filmed outside of a private residence", "Technically it’s a three year time span for the four videos. Does that make you feel better?", "Correct answer. It was fake the first time and it's fake now. The danger of activating this while someone is driving is way too high to not be actionable.", "That’s not a robbery. Do you mean burglar?", "Hear me out. Instead of glitter…ball bearings. Instead of pneumatic…explosive.", "Did you just make an analogy between \"offensive\" as in attacking and \"offensive\" as in bad? \n\nGiga brainlet move", "Unfortunately fake. Google it.", "1. he needs a 360 camera connected to 1 phone. 2. Maybe the HomePod isn't cool enough, try a ps5.", "Mark Rober is so Mormon", "Hell, it's probably more like six months to get that much usable footage. Maybe more.", "Poor people are pretty desperate.", "Which is crazy because a home pod isn't worth $400.", "I can’t believe I had to scroll literally to the bottom to find the one person using their brain", "Yeah, because they would already have been distracted by opening a box whilst driving.", "It seems there could be a situation where a passenger opens the box, and the loud honk from inside the car plus completely unexpected glitter causes someone to jerk the wheel a bit and swerve into oncoming traffic. Seems like a booby trap, but even if it's not illegal, it's reasonable to assume a crash is possible, and I wouldn't want a potentially deadly car accident on my conscience.", "Are the mods sleeping? This is a duplicate post.", "The one used in Raising Arizona", "None of those seemed like nice homes though?", "[citation needed]", "Would someone be responsible if they gave a can of snakes or some other prank gift and a passenger opened it and it scared the driver? I think not.", "Does that work the same in situations where you give someone a joke gift? A can of snakes or a package of gum that gives you a little shock?", "These aren’t even poor people. He goes into detail in one episode how there are huge rings of people that do this. They are, without a doubt, making mad money.", "I've watched every video. His experience with porch pirates, and police failure, is what gave him the idea for the video. That's clear. That's not what I'm asking.\n\nI'm asking if he continues to contact the police. That information is WAY more interesting than dunking on porch pirates. We could see a government institution actively failing.\n\nI believe he no longer contacts the police. This is because\n\n1. He does not blur some of the faces. From his own words - \"Why are some faces blurred but not others? I default to blurring all faces (assuming it’s clear enough you can tell who they are) unless we have permission to not blur.\". This permission could come from the law of the state, or it could mean he contacts the people involved and pays them if they allow an unblurred face (he likely believes the reaction on their faces will make the video better). If he's paying the participants, he clearly isn't contacting the police\n\n2. There was a scandal a few years ago where some of the thefts were faked. This isn't his fault. But, since some of the thefts were faked, its clear that the people involved weren't worried about police intervention.", "From his own description:\n\n\"Why are some faces blurred but not others? I default to blurring all faces (assuming it’s clear enough you can tell who they are) unless we have permission to not blur. \"\n\nWhich I think is code for \"I paid them\". So he has no interest in exposing police incompetence, which would be way more interesting than a couple of punkings. It'd appeal to everyone too, Libs hate police. Conservatives say they like police but will be the first to remind you self-defense is your own responsibility, own a gun, when minutes matter cops are hours away, etc.", "Yeah but he could engineer some bullshit wacky device and use it to film a Walmart or something, I dunno. Yeah, it's probably illegal to film the inside of a Walmart, but it's probably also illegal to film the inside of a person's house without consent.\n\nWhat an infinitely more fascinating video that would be - watching Gertha the 25yr Walmart manager vet keep a couple of 16 year-olds and other wage slaves back an extra 40 minutes to scrape shit off the bathroom walls or something.", "Ah, excusing crime because of one's financial status lol. \n\n\nSome people are just truly awful.", "So your evidence that it is an urban legend is posting an example where somebody sued and won for an injury that happened while trespassing? It was through a settlement but they still won.", "Maybe dont steal packages that don't belong to you off peoples porches and they won't have that problem.", "I'm dead broke and still don't have the fucking shittiness to steal other people's things. Fuck these people. They deserve everything they're getting and more. I LOATHE thieves.", "Do you really think you'll get one over arching answer to that?", "They aren't desperate for shit. They're garbage people. End of story.", "Katko v. Briney in Iowa…not the same thing. The homeowner essentially took vigilante measures and set up a shotgun trap which almost blew the guy’s legs off for stealing some knickknacks. It’s not reasonable to set up death traps in your home to ward off burglars.", "It does squirt out bad smelling liquid though.", "I noticed faces aren’t blurred at that part of the video. Why are some faces blurred and not others?", "Man that reminds me of the Family Guy clip.\n\n\"who wants chowda?\"", "Ghetto pieces of filth. They all look exactly as I would imagine. Thief’s are roaches of this world and we would be better off without them", "Any idea why Mark says his lawyers won’t let him sell the glitter bomb?", "How come some faces got blurred and others didn’t?", "I was thinking of shit and other nasty stuff but I like yours too.", "!remindme 18 hours", "Yeah pretty nice, compared to most of the world. And Christmas decorations up. Amazing", "No, but I hope for 5-10 under arching answers", "This is the [information I found](https://www.engadget.com/2018-12-21-viral-glitter-bomb-video-fake-mark-rober.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGi3q9fpReqqooVVKMSk3SSuAmVh-QDjVG1prIt83iPtjGYRQylT_DI0uvHWVEdHi8LE2yevM-fkC8Cse-juvXManqzVo--lFAlPsgaRYKCRytKQ906kUEiGCErtYoWHlirA9N139kSJDQoNiFwsvzBptyF7CMGMr-j2YPlt_4ZQ): basically, Mark pays what are essentially strangers (\"friends of friends\") to host these packages on their porch, as the more porches these sit on, the more footage he can collect. Mark pays them on a per-package-recovered basis. So some of these package hosts got their own friends to stage thefts to maximize profits and split the payments between themselves.\n\nIn short, it was discovered in previous videos that some of his volunteers faked the footage. Mark found out, then cut out the fake footage. I think Mark's intentions are well-meaning and he doesn't intend to produce fake videos, but given his method of operation, it is hard to assume that any of the footage of these videos are real.", "Probably the legality of filming in certain states.", "It was the original glitter bomb video that used to contain fake footage. It has since been removed from the rest of that video.", "I mean if McDonalds but a glitterbomb in your food and you opened it in a car and caused an accident I'm pretty sure you could sue mcdonalds successfully so I dont think your analogy works there", "lol my answer is people like opening presents so much they start stealing packages off porches cause its such a rush to see if it's either grandma's life saving medicine or an xbox!!!", "Expectations are a factor. You ordered a burger and fries, you’d expect to find a burger and fries in the bag. Can’t really say the same with a stolen package", "What if they were going to run over your kids, but the package made them veer into a tree instead?", "Did you watch the video? He says he’ll be working directly with the police on the video next year.\n\nPretty evident he likely shares details with the police as a lot of these are linked to larger crimes, such as the ones doing multiple hit and runs on cars.\n\nI’m sure they look at each individual video on whether to take it further or to the police, or whether to contact the individual and use it as a teaching moment. Is that for them to decide? Probably not, but as was already discussed, the police weren’t doing anything to begin with and likely they’ll still do nothing unless it’s linked to a larger spate of crimes.", "You're just coming off as a pathetic child now, butthurt because no one likes your shitty idea. I'm going to block you now so I won't see whatever rambling response you type.", "How the hell is this post right below the top post... that's the exact same video? I feel like Reddit is broken.", "Baystate blue would be nice", "Don't give them free and delicious food damnit", "The fart spray never gets as big of a reaction as I hope for.\n\nI want people to be gagging on the smell. Complaining about the whole room stinking.\n\nBut half of them just stand a couple feet away wondering what to do. Only a few even react to the smell.", "I would think so if there are damages. A reasonable person wouldn’t think it’s negligent to open gum or a can in a car. The person in the best position to foresee the damage is the prankster so if damages arise I think most jurisdictions would say prankster bears some if not all of the liability.", "How would the prankster foresee the damage? There is no reason to assume they’d open it while in the middle of a task that could kill them.", "Did you read my comment? The blur was executed poorly and the face was revealed. It wasn't a non-blurred face.\n\nIf he paid people that's his choice, and it's not bullying with consent, but definitely the blurred faces should feel quite attacked without consent.\n\nIdk why you're going on about conservatives and libs my dude. He definitely paid a bunch of people in this video, that's why it's most likely safe and scripted.\n\nPolice can come or not, who cares. Police are pretty useless for 9/10 cases across most of the world. Shame but it's reality. Doesn't give the YouTuber the right to do it himself though.", "unfortunately that’s not justice. \n\nhe’s right that the glitterbomb could cause danger.", "I think so too. I think that something like a pepsi bottle exploding or a balloon popping can be a similar distraction but I can understand the exception where this could cause an accident.", "Both can be negligent. I’m not sure a reasonable person would think opening a can of nuts while driving is very careless but I think it’s also reasonable for prankster to foresee victim driving and opening it. He could warn him to not open it while driving but that would spoil the prank. He can always try the “it was just a prank bro!” defense with the jury.", ">He says he’ll be working directly with the police on the video next year.\n\nOn car-based smash-and-grabs. And he worked with them on an elderly scamming ring? But he doesn't seem to work with them on petty porch theft.\n\n>the police weren’t doing anything to begin with and likely they’ll still do nothing unless it’s linked to a larger spate of crimes.\n\nExactly, and people are going to want to know that. People would want to know their government institutions are failing.", "Did you block me fuckface? Hope so.", "Did the word \"reasonable\" somehow change to \"series of possible but unlikely events\"?\n\n\n\n\n\nMight as well claim that cats should be illegal because it is \"reasonable\" that someone who is very allergic to cats could walk up to a house and be surprised by a cat jumping up to the window, have a reflexive jerk away out of fear, fall down, and hurt themselves.", "Yes. Because:\n\n1. It happened once, and so it's not the pervasive threat people think it is\n2. It occurred at a school, and the duty of care required for a building open to the public is much higher than in a private residence\n3. The accident happened on the outside of the building and not the inside", "I believe that's called felony murder. If a person is in the act of committing a felony and someone dies as a result of that felony, they can be charged for their murder/death.", "At 9:58 it sounds like a kid who is claiming to have stolen the package. And the parent asking if anyone saw them take it. Absolute scumbag parents. Really setting their kids up for a bright future.", "Could be a legal grey area if the package actually harms someone.", "Thieves deserve so much worse than glitter. So much worse", "The initial commission of a crime to acquire the device covers the liability. SLAP laws cover the ambulance chaser's civil suits. \n\n\nYou're only worried in states without SLAP laws. And even then, not very much.\nAnd since Rober would capitalize greatly from a civil suit brought by a package thief, there's no need for him to worry at all.", "Privacy laws vary by state and municipality. \n\nAnd Rober didn't get a waiver signed by those individuals or the property owner (for some of the footage).\n\nOr it's an artistic choice for some reason." ]	184	videos	Mark Rober's 4th glitter bomb against packe thieves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9KBwqGxTI	/r/videos/comments/rfu063/the_shipwreck_disaster_of_the_costa_concodria_was/	[ "I hardly ever watch anything longer than 10 minutes. I watched this entire video, really entertaining!", "I just kind of stand in awe, awestruck i think is the appropriate word, at how this captain already wrecked two big boats and still was quickly promoted from \"Security director\" to Captain in like a year and how that's just where it starts", "I've watched this before but it's so damn entertaining...can't watch it all again, though...", "You’d enjoy the other videos he has if you haven’t seen them. The Fyre festival one is great.", "Internet Historian!!! Need some content on that main channel. \n\nMy alltime favorite youtuber", "it had me at pasta in the thumbnail", "The fact that cruise ships do... \"close flybys\" on shores is in isolation, a mind blowing thing..", "The coasts of the entire world are very well mapped, especially so in Europe and North America, and in Europe you done have shifting sands like east coast USA. It’s not even a risk to go close if the depth is known and safe. \n\nNow, if you have incompetent crew who doesn’t check the recommended level of detail chart… and/or ignores it… well, you get Concordia. \n\nIt was a blatantly stupid move, stupidly done. But it’s not unsafe to be within even a few dozen meters of shore, and is done near daily to - get this - dock!", "The fallout 76 and the No Man’s Sky ones are also great.", "best video of the year", "That's entertaining!!!", "They did another video with all the cut content and diving deeper into other subjects (like certain media outlets just running their mouths), plus the recorded conversation between the captain and the coast guard which is a trip.\n\nWorth a watch.", "Photography. But as it pertains to consuming on line content, it takes greatness to secure my attention for anything past 10 minutes on one particular thing at a time.", "\"I was just, umm, rescuing somebody. Y'know, helping 'em out and I got, uh... lost in the woods\"", "I worked with Italian crews on cruise ships for 6 years, and the level of incompetence shown there doesn't shock me even the slightest.", "This is a superb video, truly great research and presentation", "That implies it's different for other nationalities?", "Pretty much, yes.", "i wholly recommend the 4chan vs shia labeouf \"he will not divide us\" saga", "*Vada a bordo, cazzo* echoes in the distance", "It also boggles the mind how the cruise company just put a person who's basically an Indonesian cleaner with very little maritime experience, who can't communicate well with the rest of the Italian crew, as the helmsman of their massive super expensive cruiseship, because idk paying an actual competent professional the accurate wages is too much apparently and someone who'd be fluent in Italian would probably also figure out the wages someone in his position should be earning.\n\nAnd then the rest of the (more competent) crew on the bridge just, oof, not figuring out that it might be a good idea to double check what this dude is doing and if he's understanding commands properly, and just pinning everything on him later", "That conversation gave me the feel that the coast guard guy literally wanted to wring his neck.", "It's just italy being italy. As an italian i am never surprised i know the story", "Hilarious video. \n\nEverytime you think it can't get worse, it does, an he delivers it in such a comedic way.", "I love this video.", "Who did? Link?", "Can’t watch the vid right now, but does he mention that the captain’s name translates as Frank Rollerskate?", "It's a hell of a great video by IH, but make sure to also watch his [Q&A video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Crdz7Uo7c) afterwards, as he does point out a few things that were omitted or perhaps unjustly dramatized in his video.", "> it might be a good idea to double check what this dude is doing and if he's understanding commands properly, and just pinning everything on him later\n\nI had an American friend say that this kind of stuff is on purpose. It goes like this. Highly paid elite gets a contract to build something, the face of the company will be someone super famous expert so they win the bid, the super famous face will quit shortly after or transition into an \"advisory\" role. They will intentionally then hire \"local third world code monkeys\" (their words) knowing full well that the project would likely get fucked up. Then when it would predictably turn to shit, they could say look this is all due to the incompetent locals. Rinse and repeat.", "This is how I imagine the whole world is being managed.", "If you wanna laugh another two hours about this, watch [Well there's your problem](https://youtu.be/2bvltmNno_A)", "https://youtu.be/U6Crdz7Uo7c", "Yeah it does feel a bit intentional. \n\nThey must have noticed that Rusli Bin didn't speak English or Italian and didn't always understand commands right and didn't have much or any experience, and still chose to do a very very close sail by at a high speed. Without someone standing at the helmsman's shoulder during this critical time.\n\nLet's just cross our fingers and hope that one of the frequent misunderstandings doesn't occur at a critical time lol! It's just astounding", ".", "This would've been funnier if people didn't die.", "What’s funny is that I saw the title about Costa Concordia and came to the comments to tell people about the Internet Historian video.\n\nThis one and the one on Fyre Festival are actually really good “documentaries”.", "I wanna main channel reeeeeeeeeeee shake him lol. He’s main is incognito mode now tbh", "No Man's Sky was huge. I have so much respect for his research and the studio because of that.", "> Now, if you have incompetent crew who doesn’t check the recommended level of detail chart\n\nAnd also can't communicate properly with eachother because of the language barrier. It blew my mind to learn that they hired a random guy who barely speak italian/english to manoeuvre such a boat. Any billingual italian/english speaker and that whole tragedy could have been avoided but, hey, the first guy was cheaper!", "> Now, if you have incompetent crew who doesn’t check the recommended level of detail chart… and/or ignores it… well, you get Concordia.\n\nAlso: when you have a cruise company that allows this as pretty-common practice, you get the Concordia.", "If you want a good joke, try Italian work ethic...", "That was entertaining.", "What gave you that feeling?\n\nWas it when the coast guard guy LITERALLY said he was going to harm him if the sea didn't? Lol", "It's definitely worth watching the FAQ after this. He has a ton of footage he didn't add to the video and goes over some info that didn't make it too, as well as some updates I believe.", "Don’t forget the Gentleman Pirate. Steeeeeeeeeed", "[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cazzo](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cazzo)\n\nguess what fan-favourite phrase appears in this as an example of an interjection", "dont forget dashcon, and the furry con one", "Concordia*", "Add that to the list of failures", "And I still play fallout 76 despite all that.", "[Very Serious Business](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROaj3bCpZEM) is definitely my favorite", "He's the only thing I've found that fills the hole in my heart ever since Encyclopedia Dramatica was taken down", "There are multiple people onboard all cruise ships that do the maneuvering, so it doesn’t make sense to pin it on anyone but the captain. Every inch or the route is plotted out on physical charts and signed off by the captain, including this maneuver (as admitted by the cruise company, they used a more macro chart that didn’t have the rock instead of the detailed chart that showed everything.)", "Pretty old video", "I love the Linus ship tips parody, lmao.", "Thanks. Your life has meaning now.", "Funnier with Asmongold commentary.", "When the death toll was mentioned I was very taken back and almost in tears. That moved me. I thought, in this day and age and with the proximity of the ship to the shore, technology, etc there's no way there would be that many fatalities. Absolutely heartbreaking.", "So does yours. You matter.", "Not saying the captain shouldn't be accountable. Even with the best captain, though, if the persons who are in direct control of the ship are unable to understand the most basic instructions, that can't end well.\n\nThat tragedy was due to an accumulation of incompetence from some crew members and greed from the company who employed cheap but unqualified personnel.", "the deaths are the one part of this documentary that I felt was lacking. I was frustrated that it was never explained how these people died. Did they drown tying to swim to shore? Did they fall off the boat and get swept away with the current? Did they somehow suffer some kind of impact damage? I felt that it was a major omission to not describe the deaths in a little more detail.", "> It was a blatantly stupid move, stupidly done.\n\nIn my life, I find if I just don't do blatantly stupid moves, it doesn't matter how stupidly or non-stupidly I do them...", "Blaming the captain for \"previously crashing into ports while docking\" is hardly fair. \n\nThe docking is done by local \"Pilots\" who board the ship and are in charge of the local docking procedures. \n\nThat being said he 100% is the blame for the Concordia sinking. Just not the earlier stuff.", "[Here's a small bit of info](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/17/costa-concordia-trial-details-deaths), seems some were outside and couldn't get to a boat or lifejacket, and some were inside and couldn't get out of the boat.", "They were following the course they charted out, so their fate was sealed when the captain signed off (physically) on that course. They used the wrong map, everything afterwards was inevitable regardless of language.", "To be fair, he sobers up and the comedy mostly mellows out when discussing the casualties. He makes no attempts at making fun of those who died.", "The engoodening of no mans sky is the greatest comeback story in modern human history", "I showed my daughter the y2k one and my daughter stood there in disbelief questions everything and looking at me like I'm sort of liar God incarnate", "Man wanted to make smaller vids more regularly then disappeared for nine months. I did really enjoy Ordinary Things' run on the second channel tho." ]	69	videos	The shipwreck disaster of the Costa Concodria was more incompetent than you heard about in the news
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rWgWBA0wP7U&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/rfu6j6/in_youtubes_world_there_is_no_worst_covers/	[ "So bad its actually good.", "Is the bass player in a different band ?", "But if there was...", "Egg punks. You can feel some of the Joy Division influence.", "gotta start somewhere!" ]	5	videos	in youtube's world, there is no worst covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd5uWDcwrsg	/r/videos/comments/rfuiso/your_nfts_are_worthless/	[ "ok", "I could fall asleep listening to that melodic voice", "Yeah but the money you can make selling em aint.", "Someone makes a Napster but all we do is trade NFTs we screengrabbed off people dumb enough to buy and display them.", "Like fine art, it’s one of several vehicles for money laundering.", "I applaud anyone and everyone who makes a profit on them. Good job.", "NaFTer.", "I walked down the street the other day and took a picture of every car on the the block. From my count, I stole about 64 vehicles.", "Thanks. Have some rare ones still, gotta be in it to win it.", "But the money is real. There’s no getting around that.\n\nIf people are willing to pay for a pet rock, then they’re certainly willing to pay for NFTs. Does that make them inherently valuable? Not really, but anything is only as valuable as what people are willing to pay for it.", "This is a scam and I think most of them are in on it. They'll pump up the value until they find a sucker and cash out.", "Here how NFT's work\n\n1) Create one, really does not matter what it is. Can be a black square. If you do it on Ethereum get prepared to get ripped of on Ethereum fees. \n\n2) Now send some Ethereum to you second metamask account. This will cost you a hefty fee.\n\n3) Now using your second metamask account buy your own NFT. Now your first account get the Ethereum back.\n\n4) Do this over and over again, every time putting it up for more and then buying it yourself with another account. Nobody can stop your from doing this because it's decentralised. You will lose a fortune on fees but you don't care.\n\n5) Finally your price is at 10 ETH for your black square. \n\n6) Now pretend to accidentally put it up for sale for 1 ETH, a \"mistake\" \nseemingly the favor of the first guy that grabs it. [Mainstream media even falls for these hussles! \n](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59638565)\n\n7) Now some idiot things he can buy your black square for 1 ETH and then sell it for at least 2 ETH cause you the blockchain showed somebody bought it for as high as 10 ETH right? It will easily sell for 2 ETH, no? \n\n8) Now somebody has something completely worthless and you have 1 ETH. But before you sell the ETH for real money you lose about 50% in fees. \n\n9) THis person is forced to scam in the same way. First buy it from himself multiple times until finally pretending to sell it to cheap and hopefully get his own 1 ETH back. If he runs out of Ether to pay the tx fee he is forced to buy more Ether. A never ending scam! The winners are those guys that mine it with the graphics card you were hoping to get for christmas. But even those guys are losers cause they are using their landlords \"free\" electricity for it. So in the end it's nice global scheme to steal from landlords who pay for higher electricity bills. \n\n\nTHis will go on till everybody in the world realizes the scam. Decentralisation is nice but it also allows us to scam and con each other like never before. Which is not nice but you know part of the human experience to get stolen from and steal from. Crypto turns everybody into merciless hustlers that will sell their grandmothers for profit. Eventually 999 people lose and 1 guy become super rich, goes on social media to make fun of the 999 he stole it from. Look at me, I am so much smarter then all of you. I a crypto genius cause I have no ethics.", "Some people are going to be crying into their beer when this stupid craze goes boom. \n\nRemember beanie babies?", "So this dude says some NFT like the nyan cat that sold for $600k but others are worthless because they're ugly? Aight.", "You don't even own the NFT's, you only own a copy. You can't print your NFT on a t-shirt and sell it. The copyright still belong to the artist.", "Can't listen to his stupid kid's television presenter voice", "An NFT is just a unique piece of data on the blockchain that cannot be duplicated. NFTs are not exclusively used for JPEGs of bored monkeys. Stop referring to these images as NFTs. \n\nOne way to think about a better use case for NFTs is to treat them like a product registration code that happens to be recorded on a blockchain. \n\nIn order to launch a video game you have to link it to a valid code (NFT).\n\nWant to trade in your digital game? \nGameStop will buy the NFT from you and give you store credit just like they used to do with physical games. They can then resell the NFT on their used games marketplace.\n\nWorried about network fees?\nLoopring is deploying a layer 2 network that will process transactions off-chain, batch the results and send the confirmation onto ETH layer 1. This allows the ETH gas fee to be divided across thousands of off-chain transactions.", "This and the blatantly obvious money laundering seem to be overlooked by those arguing that stuff has value because the market says it does…", "The market is completely controlled by a company that prints their token out of thin air and says it's 1 dollar. 80% of all volume is between this token and crypto. So it's not going to end well.", "Have fun looking at them", "All these problems already have a solution that is cheaper and more streamlined.\n\nShitCoins: Bringing you half-assed pipe dream solutions to problems that do not exist.", "Where can you sell digital used games?", "Same place you will with NFT - nowhere." ]	24	videos	your NFTs are worthless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwub1m1pg0c	/r/videos/comments/rfv3gb/tones_and_i_dance/	[ "What type of singing is that? It's the absolute worst.", "Cause I have ears", "It's a style, maybe not your style... or mine. But it is a style. Yucking other's yum.", "Just a lil diddly that went 14x platinum and made over 12 million in streams alone also a small basket of awards, I would say to each their own but in this case you might be the odd man out ♡", "That “Dance for me. Dance for me. Dance for me.” move is the exact same move I made after I used Old Spice aftershave on my newly shaved crack of doom.", "Which move, the ass cheek flappy grab or the jiggle jiggle air shake?", "Agreed, absolute ratshit", "Hasn’t done bad really considering she started by singing it in shopping malls with a cheap keyboard." ]	8	videos	Tones and I dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaIPF7xnQg	/r/videos/comments/rfv5k6/body_language/	[ "Nice tight body probably great in bed!", "god damn look at the shitter on that critter", "sometimes the way a woman moves makes me horny and this is one of those times", "The comments on this are going to be something.", "I think the whole internet had this recommended at some point in time", "this might be the sexiest thing on the entire internet, I mean got-damn", "“THESE ARE NOT SPIRIT FINGERS…. these are spirit fingers”", "She seems smart.", "Jokes on her. She could just be sitting there and I’d think she’s hot", "Mhm.\nhttps://imgur.com/a/CuO0cDg", "bodily kinesthetic intelligence", "Take an upvote...you made me spit beer on my screen.", "Poor dude. So easily tricked by leggings and a weird ass pose.", "Why wait? Here they are: reddit.com/r/videos/comments/kzmgsg/dance_body_language_choreography_by_liana/", "This is the kind of repost I can get behind.", "\"JAZZ HANDS!\"", "Does this comment need a hyphen? It feels like it needs a hyphen.", "Tre Fosse.", "She seems nice.", "The hyphen doesn't actually change the meaning in either position.", "That’s what I was thinking but you put it so much more elegantly", "She’s got me convinced.", "Yea, listen to dating advice from the fake chad who spends his time arguing with strangers on the internet instead of talking to women", "This is also a behind that gets reposted.", "She speaks it.", "I would gladly be reposted behind that behind", "I'd rather not but thanks for the suggestion.", "No. She's posing her ass weirdly. It's a weird ass pose. Probably one of the few sentences which don't require it.", "This awesome cutie has got such a patootie.", "there's quite an ass on that lass.", "Damn girl, you shit with that ass?!", "Yeah this video is umm... Ahem... Interesting.... Wow", "Learn this online now!\n\nWhat, download this to my brain for 19.99??", "Bro that top comment on the video is gold", "Jesus dude", "tres", "All That Jazz!!!!", "and these....are gold.", "Right you are-", "Something something oatmeal is thick", "Remember when the movie Bring it On literally used the idea of spirit fingers and sexy poses as a pathetic attempt at competent choreography? And now that's become a good thing...apparently?\n\n[https://youtu.be/oha7hSlKr2g?t=214](https://youtu.be/oha7hSlKr2g?t=214)", "Okay, your comment made me irrationally angry, so I just need to set the record straight:\n\nThat scene was a parody of the style of Bob Fosse, an absolute legendary choreographer who was doing his thing back in the fucking 50's, won like 8 tony awards for choreography, and was known for his use of \"jazz hands\". This was not a thing that Bring It On pulled out of thin air. \n\nAlso, the joke in that scene (aside from the obvious flamboyancy of the dance instructor) isn't that Fosse's style was bad, but how ridiculous it is for a cheerleading squad to turn to musical theater jazz dance for inspiration in their fucking cheer competition. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Fosse\n\nAlso, \"spirit fingers and sexy poses\" is a huge oversimplification of the body control and precision on display from the dancer in the OP video", "0\\_0 that was amazing.", "Oof this is cringe ngl", "In 20 years yeah. Matrix baby.", "Cringe tbh.\n\n*S E X Y\n\nAh yes, the most original and cultured of things ever loud whispered as a single word in the middle of song. No one else does that.", "Liana blackburn no doubt is top 5 in the world for coreo. \n\nimo the best is DHQ Fraules\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Rba9Z0CcWwQ?t=10", "That peach, i'm drooling.", ">This was not a thing that Bring It On pulled out of thin air.\n\nDidn't say it was, but Bring it On was certainly criticizing how outdated and unoriginal that choreography is in a more modern setting. \n\n>Also, the joke in that scene (aside from the obvious flamboyancy of the dance instructor) isn't that Fosse's style was bad, but how ridiculous it is for a cheerleading squad to turn to musical theater jazz dance for inspiration in their fucking cheer competition.\n\nNo, it was a straight representation of blatantly bad and unimaginative choreography. It wasn't some meta commentary on the integration of jazz dance and cheer. \n\n>Also, \"spirit fingers and sexy poses\" is a huge oversimplification of the body control and precision on display from the dancer in the OP video\n\nWant a display of body control? Go see a contortionist. You can find better body control in contemporary dance, jazz dance, breakdancing, tap dance, ballet, even strippers dancing on a pole. \n\nThe only body control this displayed was doing basic movements in a pair of heels. Now, I'm not criticizing the dancer, it's more about the style which is derivative, unimaginative, and unimpressive.", "Was half expecting it to be dude when she turned around.", "Ken", "This is the kind of behind that can get reposted", "Oh it's that time of the week again!\n\nLove to see this reposted for the hundredth time.", "\"JUNK IN THA TRUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNK!\"--Jerome, \"Martin\"", "Her attitude sells everything she does. 👏🏼", "Well that was a gift. Merci.", "Are redheads predisposed to have the fattest of asses? I'm serious...it seems like something a study she be done on. White redheads seem to be more shapely than brunettes and blondes from my very casual observation.", "you can learn that dance online", "Half of me: What a superb display of technical ability and mastery of an artform.\n\nThe other half: COOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!", "Body language is a very powerful tool. We had body language before we had speech, and apparently, 80% of what you understand in a conversation is read through the body, not the words.\r \n\r \nDeborah Bull", "i dislocated all my joints just from thinking about attempting this", "No its Diamond", "^ You’re a legend if you get this ^", "Twerking is just fucking retarded.", "Wow.\n\nJust Wow.\n\nSo much hotter than twerking.", "This the kinda shit girls need to be learning on tiktok.", "What the fuck kind of dudes do you hang out with?", "Has anyone noticed how weird dancig is as a concept? Lets jerk your body unnaturally to the rhythm of a song and do awkward poses that no one would do throughout daily life.", "Sure.", "That sub with all the letters", "I nearly spit my drink out, never heard this phrase but it's correct.", "23 million people can't be wrong!", "From my own past research I've conducted, I agree that there's definitely something in this.", "I think you have some chromosomes too many.", "Oh boy I wonder why this is getting upvoted", "I'll be in my bunk", "i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about him. u wouldnt say this shit to him in person, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol", "wow", "Respect for the hard work she put into choreographing and practicing this routine.", "As a guy and as a person with two left feet oh, there's no way I could pull that off. Anyone have any recommendations for a dance that a guy like me could pull off?", "I was impressed when I saw that she did that in heels.", "A bunch of copy + paste suburbanites with a ridiculously unsurprising lack of ass.\n\nYou think this is talent?", "I was convinced, that this was going to be a man dancing, to show how body language communicates gender. \nBut this was also fine by me.", "This is her for anyone wondering - https://www.instagram.com/dailydancerdiet/", "Gangnam Style", "I’m sorry I don’t speak Russian.", "Sometimes people give dancing shit(probably because the vast majority of us dance in a more or less uncontrolled mess of limbs), but her movements are so sharp and precise. It's really impressive muscular control.\n\nProps", "I just really like her personality", "I'll get my lab coat.", "God damn gingers get me every time.", "Even if she was ugly as sin - with those moves I'd be all over her anyway...", "A repost I can always get behind.", "Très Fosse? That's \"very pits\" in french, what does that mean in this context?", "Very Fosse.", "She has the legs of a centaur.", "See what happened after she did this dance? SHE GOT PREGNANT!", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Fosse", "[Bob Fosse](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Fosse) \n \n >Robert Louis Fosse (; June 23, 1927 – September 23, 1987) was an American dancer, musical-theatre choreographer, actor, theatre director, and filmmaker. He directed and choreographed musical works on stage and screen, including the stage musicals The Pajama Game (1954), Damn Yankees (1955), How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (1961), Sweet Charity (1966), Pippin (1972), and Chicago (1975). His films include Sweet Charity (1969), Cabaret (1972), Lenny (1975), All That Jazz (1979), and Star 80 (1983). Fosse's distinctive style of choreography included turned-in knees and \"jazz hands\".\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Desktop version of /u/ShadeSalesman's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Fosse>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Those ass cheeks", "Pretty bold putting this pasta in r/videos", "No wonder", "The song: [Body Language by Queen](https://youtu.be/p2EDkv_dyeI)", "Is she into you?\n\n\n\n[ ] A. Yes\n\n\n[ ] B. No\n\n\n[X] C Can't tell", "[Tom Holland did it better ](https://youtu.be/Brq-exSvB7Q)", "[Sick reference.](https://youtu.be/i4QYvXpaXlY)", "That is a BOATLOAD of confidence!!", "Holy krap.", "She is very smart and interesting", "Sometimes, the female form astounds me. This is one of those times.", "Where would you dance like this. A stripper bar…?", "Last time I saw this posted people were either being horny or being angry about being horny.", "Really? I can't be the only one who thinks this isn't really that good. It's just \"sexy\".", "I see you are a man of culture like myself", "I resent you for making me watch that", "Her timing is excellent, and as someone with zero professional experience it seems to be technically very good? Am I missing something?\nFWIW she is attractive, but it's easy enough so see past that.", "Dance is just physical communication and is far older than verbal communication given that it can be found in all types of species. \n\nBees dance, birds dance, fish dance, mammals dance. Only humans dance to rhythms I guess, but that’s self selection and we obviously have brains wired for pattern recognition.", "Chreographying twerking is like writing sheet music for the kazoo.", "critter shitter prose turned up", "Yeah so weird that I've seen this somewhat interesting but not all that amazing video pushed to me on youtube for no real reason, and then a week or two later I see it here.", "Modern dance enthusiasts who appreciate a tightly choreographed routine.", "FourX Chromesomes maybe. I love how people try to use my own username against me, but use it in the wrong reference. That's why it's there.", "The pole was missing.", "As someone with zero professional experience this didn't seem overly complicated for a trained dancer? This is just sexy as the other said.", "I am now carrying her child.", "Well now, that beauty’s got some booty.", "Finger points", "It's the same with every art. It's less about execution and more about being different.\n\nJust take a look at any KPOP dance. They look like they're having a fit.", "r/alphabet?", "I'll bet she shags like a minx.", "As someone who has had a hobbyist interest in dance\n\n...this isn't that impressive. This is something a beginner exocit dancer could do with just a little commitment.", "There is nothing about this video that doesn't scream thirsty stripper.", "I always wondered what caused it!", "meh", "I've never seen a stripper dance that well.", "I mean seriously her movements are so sharp and precise, that has to be it", "K", "It is not about how hard it is tho, it is mostly about her coming up with the routine.", "When I watch this, all I can think of is one of those funky birds or jumping spiders or monkeys you see on Discovery with hyper elaborate mating rituals. \n\nI hope this one video survives the apocalypse and the aliens that are picking through our ruins put it in a \"human museum\" as an example of primitive human mating rituals.", "You got to keep youtube and reddit separate. Want to watch a video on r/videos? Never let it open up on youtube. \n\nUse an embedded link on your computer, or an app on your phone that doesn't immediately open youtube. \n\nKeep that shit separate or else you will be like me. Opened one link of DwarfFortress and now I can't stop watching it.", "Well… r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG to be perfectly honest", "Many dances you learn in dance clubs are difficult to do in the outside World. You can bring out some moves at the club as a little fun act with someone but overall it's just to have fun at the club. And have a video that will boost your self-confidence.\n\nAs someone from the outside, that's how I think dance clubs are. A mix of having a great time, learning lots of moves to be versatile in dancing, learning your body and getting self-confidence.", ">throughout daily life.\n\nBecause we live boring lives. 9-5, a couple of drinks, sleep. Repeat.", "Also, how she's really on point with the timing. If you're a bit slow it's looks like you're trying to dance for the music, when you want to make it look like the music is playing for your dance.\n\nEg. the snapping happening because you moved your body to a certain place. Not that you move the body because there's a snap.", "Seriously...scorching hot fire... \n\n\nFrom a physical perspective...her postures and isolations are pretty wild. I cannot move my body this way...I'm sure I'd look hilarious and not sexy if I tried. \n\n\nThis takes a LOT of practice and skill.", "I never knew i was a fan orlf choreography", "I'm glad you love it", "Many would go on a hunt for a bit of that ...", "https://imgur.com/5qLIFdX.gifv", "What should I do now ?", "To look dumb for two different reasons back to back... Ouch", "What's really odd is that in every other species, the males dance to attract females. I don't really understand why human females dance. Maybe it's intra-sex competition, or maybe it's about retaining male attention beyond the act of mating.", "It is the mystery of the dance.", "👈😐👈", "i think i want to be her when i grow up", "No, r/upvotedbecausebutt", "I lost.", "Extending your comment to males humans may dance because music gives them a feeling of energy and they want a way to express that energy\n\nOf course sex could play a role any time, but I, and many others, would and do dance purely because it's fun to do, I don't even need or want others to watch me do it\n\nThat's beyond it just be a skill like any other and learning a new skill is often a means to itself", "But still.", "Shades of Ann Margret…\n\n[with Elvis](https://youtu.be/XH2K9N16VMY)", "Nice dumper", "She's clearly a very well-trained dancer. I don't know anything about dancing but you can tell she's executing precise dance moves.", "And guys like me would still go \"If only she would give me a sign that she is interested in me.\"", "Gotta say it... Ladies, listen up. This is talent. Shaking your fat ass in front of a camera with your friends cheering in the background isn't. Make grandma proud.", "I was looking this for a while. Thank you :)", "I wonder what a professional dancer thinks about this dance. Is it too simple just some striptease figures or is it awesome because how every inch of her body moves to each beat. What I know for sure is, this is so much better than twerking…something I never understand", "Dancing reminds me of late 80's Paula Abdul", "Sure", "Watched it 10 times, not sure if I want to upvote it yet. May watch it 10 more times to make sure...", "True but then if you start thinking about speaking that's weird as fuck too if you really start to think about it. We flap our lips and tongue around while blowing air out of our mouths to make noises for others to interpret.", "Gail!", "Four x chromosomes probably means she's a woman and a very retarded one at that", "She does have a nice turd cutter.", "I wish I could dance cool but all I know how to do is what Will Smith does in Hitch.", "[Damn watchu doing out here with all this ass? ](https://youtu.be/t2REOu-R7HU)", "Thank you Baby Jesus for inventing those pants", "I legit thought that was Stevie from Rhett&Link for about a minute", "Mmm\n\nMe gusta… me gusta…", "Me too. \"This could be a man, that will teach them to try to challenge my preconceived notions! I refuse to be tricked!\"", "Hhnnnnngggggggggg", "Sometimes a woman make me horny", "By who", "Yea, whoever did it needs the Nobel Prize", "She has more of her??? Yes YES YES", "My bad. I didn't know it could go through the screen.", "Oh yes. I like this too. Twerk so nice make you happy twice", "No if you keep still you aren't dancing", "( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)", "Yeah you can’t really tell on this one.", "This one never made sense to me. The suggestion is that the turd is preformed and uncut inside the butt like a poop rope. When in actuality, the turd is a mass of stuff that is pushed out and formed into the turd in the process of shit taking. Therefore the turd is not cut in the process, so much as the turd breaks into pieces as it shit out. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.", "Latin people: \"That's it?\"", "Damn, he's absolutely kicking it.\n\nI mean. Daaaamn", "Yeah, jazz hands are the worst", "/r/ATBGE?", "That’s why I hate musicals.", "Seriously. Any time spent in the dance community will make this look normal. I can't do it but doesn't mean I haven't seen something similar in person.", "Right but this sort of thing happens all the time. Why now with this video are even non dancers watching it everywhere?", "Listen to it without music. It's fucking weird. She looks like a bird on a nature documentary displaying a mating dance", "Maybe she's from Canada and is just being polite...", "It's pretty good actually. It just also happens to be sexy.", "Need to hear less elegant version. Lol", "It immediately made me think of [this](https://youtu.be/nWfyw51DQfU?t=34)", "Incredible lyrics!", "Last pop tart was eaten, then someone found a new box", "Looks like Ann Margaret moves by Laura Prepon. (That 70's Show)", "As a gay man... That was hot.", "I would consider dancing to be primal and not weird at all. It's something that's in everyone whether they are good at it or not.", "Yes! That's exactly what I was thinking of too.", "Virgins", "> it's fun to do\n\nYou need to understand that this sort of feeling is always the way that instincts manifest themselves. For example, the purpose of sex, from the standpoint of evolution, is to reproduce. To facilitate that, you have an instinct to fuck. The way you experience that instinct is through pleasure. \"It's fun to have sex.\"\n\nBut if, for whatever reason, you weren't aware of that instinct and I told you, \"the purpose of sex from the standpoint of evolution is reproduction\" you might be tempted to reply, \"not for me, I do it because it's fun.\"", "Nice", "Mastery of craft will do that.", "Seriously, that singular stutter step was flawless. But so is that ass.", "Virtually every other species has males with bright patterns and duller-looking females. With humans, the female uses makeup to make the bright patterns, and the males are duller (what you see is what you get). Maybe we're just weird.", "You do a rain dance, you make it rain. Ipso facto.", "can you respond to his comment without using sex as an example? I just want to see if it's possible.", "You should change it to 99xWeirdAssCringe", "> What's really odd is that in every other species, the males dance to attract females.\n\n/badscience\n\nDance can be used for a lot of things including mate selection (males and females), but also for communication, entertainment, education, and so on.", "NGL.. till she turned around I was wondering if it would be a guy.", "Sure. I can give lots of examples! Pick any behavior that shows up at the population level. They are all a result of underlying instinctive drives (and I'm well aware that psychologists don't use that term anymore).\n\nHumans have an instinct to be a part of a tribe. Outlets for that instinct include nationalism, gangs, and even sports fandom. From the standpoint of evolution, nature is trying to get you to not be a loaner because among your ancestors, those who had a tribe left more and healthier offspring. That's why you have that instinct.\n\nAt the individual level though, you are tribal because of some vague feeling that it's \"right\" and the other guys are \"wrong\" - but you would articulate it as, \"I just like doing this.\"\n\nAnother example: at the population level, you'll see \"fight or flight.\" You'll see it in the way people react to the police, or to fender-benders (road rage), etc. There's an instinct that is motivating these people.\n\nBut at the individual level, they will explain their behavior by reference to the feelings. \"He made me angry\" or \"I was scared\" - yes, I know; fear and anger is the way this instinct manifests itself.", "you didn't give any examples from other species so it's safe for me to discard your unsupported opinion. My claim stands: in other species, males dance to attract females.", "Hmm.. trolls gonna troll.", "> Virtually every other species has males with bright patterns and duller-looking females.\n\nYes, that's right! The energy needed by the males to grow those patterns (or to survive while carrying them, as in the case of the widowbird) is itself an indicator of fitness.\n\nIn general, males of all sexual species perform displays which have two factors in common: (1) they are public (2) they are costly.\n\nA lot of birds go with the bright feathers and the dancing. A lot of mammals go with fighting (like rams butting their heads together). But it's all the same function, from the standpoint of evolution.\n\nThe degree to which males perform these displays is inversely related to male investment in their offspring. Sexual dimorphism in general is inversely related to investment.", "So, you have no examples from other species?\n\nAgain, my claim stands unless and until you can rebut it. All you've done so far is make a counterclaim that there exist counterexamples. But you haven't cited any.", "Yes, anything can be labelled unnatural, that is not eating, shitting and fucking.\n\nAlso, you typing this comment would look unnatural to anyone who isn't aware that tapping plastic squares is communicating.", "A class. In your home. Out with friends. At a festival. Any place you fucking feel it.", "I mean she could just repeatedly hump the air", "I think from a technical perspective, what she's doing in this video takes an incredible amount of control over her body. To move so fluidly with such poise and grace speaks of great skill and practice. I think any professional dancer could appreciate this woman's skills.", "r/yourjokebutworse", "Might be the best link drop I've ever seen. Thank you", "I knew exactly what that was and I still watched it cause goddamn does he kill it.", "As an aside, why can't Youtube figure out volume? Every video is either an ear-splitting 110 DB or whisper quiet. It's like hearing roulette.", "THATS A MIGHTY FINE TURD CUTTER", "You are now subscribed to /r/dwarffortressmemes", "[Part 2](https://youtu.be/WaRPTO30f0Y)", "One of my fav videos of all time. Dude is so talented. \n\nAlso everytime I see it I can't help but notice how LL's body language gets super uncomfortable when Tom walks up to him. Chill bro", "I’m not a professional but I studied dance for a large chunk of my life, and she’s very skilled. It’s a fairly simple dance but her moves are very precise and communicated with a lot of flair. And very professional jazz hands. \n\nShe’s a highly trained professional dancer :) \n\nhttps://www.dailydancerdiet.com/about\n\nHope that helps!", "ok now talk specifically about dancing and how the original commenter isnt actually having fun.", "The moves yeah but they will not do it this well, it seems easy because she is good at what she does. Skilled people always make their job look easy.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG/", "> will make this look normal\n\nthis isnt normal at all. she's a hugely successful dance instructor and still none of her other little routines she's filmed come close to being as aesthetically pleasing as this one. its the perfect combo of sexy and oddly satisfying butt wiggling. not normal in the slightest.", "Jesus..I think that’s one of the sexiest things I’ve ever seen…", "This guy shits.", "I hope everyone does. It's a really important bodily function. Like top five.", "I have not claimed, nor do I believe, that the original commenter \"isn't actually having fun.\"\n\n...any more than I believe a person running from the cops isn't actually experiencing fear.\n\nYou know what I do think - I think you disagree with me, but it's a vague disagreement that you can't really express.", "I always thought of the turd as the product.\nSo the mass inside your body is just the raw material which is cut in to turds. English is not my first language though", "Tier 1 Turd Cutter", "You are now subscribed to r/dwarffortressporn\n\nYou are now unsubscribed to r/dwarffortressmemes", "So she's... hungry? Optimistic?", "Hmmm...strange...my wee-wee seems to have been stricken with rigor mortis", "This gave me a good laugh, thanks.", "Well there are some counter examples, but you aren't wrong that \"generally\" males take attention more than females.\n\nMost people look at birds when they point out males vs females, so the counter example there I believe is owls although they don't use much color in their plumage. Insects are another group where many females are flashier than males. Fish have other examples in them too, such as seahorses. Female fish are also bigger because laying eggs takes a lot of resources and if males were the largest it would be too much counter competition. \n\nDifferent environments and reproduction methods will push genders to both ends of the spectrum", "There is no cutting taking place in the process. Instead the shit travels down the colon and out of the spinchter, this process is what defines the shape of it. The muscles of the anus are sculpting the poo into the shape of a turd in process of shitting. We are all artists in this way and every crap is a masterpiece, our actual life's work, a turd ouevre.", "don't be such a meanie >:3", "don't be such a meanie >:3", "Jazz hands", "Aaaaand I got what I came here for. Thank you good sir and good day.", "Thank you.\n\nI hereby modify my claim as follows: in every other species that engages in dance behavior, males dance to attract females. The one exception is that bees communicate in a manner that humans have labeled dance, but is unlike the dances performed by other species.\n\nHumans remain unusual in exactly the way I described.", "You broke my heart\n\n'Cause I couldn't dance\n\nYou didn't even want me around\n\nAnd now I'm back\n\nTo let you know\n\nI can really shake 'em down\n\nDo you love me?\n\n(I can really move)\n\nDo you love me?\n\n(I'm in the groove)\n\nAh, do you love?\n\n(Do you love me)\n\nNow that I can dance\n\n(Dance)", "That ass on that lass?", "Nice fucking shoes….", "Not with the weird shit I watch on YouTube. Closest thing I got is a little eastern european gnome playing the flute to techno while a giant creepy dude watches him from behind a tree.", "The Baby Jesus, we thanked him for it earlier.", "https://youtu.be/XggUCi1jtz0", "nope, I don't disagree. i don't know enough about the subject. I actually think that theory is interesting, but pessimistic and pointless. \n\nDo you have fun doing things? Do you immediately self-reflect and tell yourself \"I NEED to understand, this feeling is only derived from instinct, because thats ALWAYS the answer.\" What manifesting instinct causes you to be rude and arrogant?\n\nalso...what a strange analogy that isn't needed. Where did that even come from?", "Its the asshole. The asshole cuts shits.", "Some intensely hot ones apparently. If dudes looked like this, I would be gay as hell.", "Well it's been a top post on /r/videos like 5-10 times so no wonder.", "But then thats like saying, if dudes had amazing feminine booties or amazing sensuality, I would be gay.\n\ni mean, that quote \" if my grand mother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle\" comes to mind.", "> interesting, but pessimistic and pointless.\n\nThis sounds like a creationist's response to hearing about the big bang.\n\n> Do you have fun doing things?\n\nof course! Sex is pleasurable even when you understand why it's pleasurable.\n\n> Do you immediately self-reflect and tell yourself \"I NEED to understand, this feeling is only derived from instinct, \n\nNope. \n\nI'm also a software engineer and when I encounter a software system in my day-to-day life, I could provide a technical description of it, if someone wants that, but I don't feel the \"need\" to do it.\n\n> because thats ALWAYS the answer.\"\n\nIt's like how TCP/IP is almost always the mechanism of communication for a networked computer. To you, you might want to characterize that in all-caps as \"ALWAYS the answer\" but no, I know that some systems still communicate in other ways.\n\n> What manifesting instinct causes you to be rude and arrogant?\n\nlikely the instinct to form dominance hierarchies.\n\n> what a strange analogy that isn't needed.\n\nYou mean the reference to police? You literally asked me for other examples and I provided two - one of them involving fight of flight. You asked for examples, and then when I proved them you label the examples \"a strange analogy\" - what is going on?", "idk.. somethng seems vain about the whole thing", "It's like it goes in one ear and out the other with that guy", "You're not wrong", "Nice", "The uploader controls volume.", "bad idea", "It's how it works on essentially all streaming media...", "ok two things:\n\nyou said 'always' and bolded it, that's why I capitalized it. pretty funny that you argued against yourself there.\n\nand second, me asking for examples was a few comments ago, before the most recent one that asked for a specific thought on dancing. which you still haven't. \n\nI think the main thing is you need to hear that you won and you are the smartest in the room. so congrats, you are the victor. I concede, please take all my stone tools and furs.", "> you said 'always' and bolded it\n\nyep, here's what I said: \"this sort of feeling is always the way that instincts manifest\"\n\nThat's true, and I stand by it. If you have an instinct, it alway manifests itself as a feeling. Thus, the feeling he's describing is \"that sort of feeling\" - i.e. the sort of feeling associated with an instinct.\n\nNeither of us have provided any real counter examples.\n\nWhen it comes to computer systems, I might tell my grandma, \"your apple TV talks to netflix via TCP/IP - this sort of system always uses TCP/IP\" - that doesn't mean that I'm unaware of IPX.\n\n> the main thing is you need to hear that you won\n\nNow you're just being petty.", "Want more?\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxe5yZDW1X8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxe5yZDW1X8)\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwub1m1pg0c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwub1m1pg0c)", "Nah. This video doesn't affect me that much.", "Yeah I'd rather not do that too. It would indeed be ouch.\n\nThen again, you guys are getting super upset at someone pointing out how easily you fall for weird ass poses. Ouch.", "I'm glad you are glad that I love it. Usernames are awesome.", "Nope. What I said was true.\n\nWe have labeled what bees do as dancing, so I concede that point. The existence of bees communicating in this way does not disprove the point I made.\n\nThe point is, in other species that exhibit dancing behavior, the males dance to attract females. Humans are unique in that women also dance.", "Good try. Not close though.", "Gentlemen of culture, we meet again.", "A bit of both.\n\nYoutube do normalize loudness to an extent, but not wall to wall and will tend to reduce the videos that are too loud above it's reference level of -14 LUFS. But I think I read somewhere that they don't turn up the loudness on quieter videos. So you end up with situations where a -14lufs video will play right after a bunch of videos mixed at maximum -20.\n\n\nhttps://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-loudness/\nhttps://productionadvice.co.uk/amazon-music-loudness-normalization/\nhttps://www.meterplugs.com/blog/2019/09/18/youtube-changes-loudness-reference-to-14-lufs.html", "I'm glad you think they're awesome", "I don't disagree that sex drives us directly, and that the mechanism that drives us via dopamine and other hormones does comes from reproductive necessities. However I believe that that mechanism isn't that good at determining what is good for us in a reproductive sense, and that we learn, as we grow, what triggers that mechanism for us as individuals, and that it doesn't actually have to be about sex.\n\nHijacking that mechanism is possible for instance. Drug use is not necessarily good for my reproductive fitness, neither is, necessarily, dare devil behaviour.\n\nI think the nuance that's missing is that this reproductive-mechanism that drives us is not actually that smart, we can do things to trigger it that don't have anything to do with our reproductive fitness or reproduction. Thus, when I do things, it is not always for reproduction.", "It's really a poop extruder if anything.", "Okay I'm a dude and this is sexy as fuck, but isn't that like really really good? Like she's a teacher or something. That's like really well done.", "It’s like a soft serve ice cream machine.", "I tell you you watch one yt video of girls in dresses jumping into pools and your whole algorithm is fucked.", "The point of the dance is the dance. \n\nThere is never anything more or less then that.", "I can only hope for our species it's a video like this that survives, rather than twerking", "Ok, your suggestions are valid but this is also how woman dance at strip bars and if you feel like dancing like a stripper then have at it. Just sayin.", "I think any heterosexual male would say otherwise.", "And in front of a roomful of people who aren’t moving at all apart from an occasional broken whoop of encouragement or a two beats clap. Everyone just…watching.\n\nI can’t watch this without getting huge second hand embarrassment. It’s not sexy, it’s cringeworthy.", "Sorry I was watching the video, did you say something?", "As a gay guy do you appreciate the beauty of the female form? I'm pretty straight and I find a certain visual appeal to many types of male bodies, even if they don't turn me on.", "There is [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ63S2Y1unk) version of the video, too.", "It's not clear to me why you feel anything in that article rebuts any claim I've made.\n\n> Your community college experience\n\nNow you're just getting desperate! Not only are you using ad hominem attacks, you're so petty that you're using elitist ad homs!", "> I believe that that mechanism isn't that good at determining what is good for us in a reproductive sense\n\nSure, I can agree with that. Natural selection works at the species level and doesn't care much for what happens to the individual. That's why praying mantis males get their heads eaten, and why we humans get impacted wisdom teeth. These things evidently don't decrease fitness at the species level, so there's no selective pressure to \"fix\" them.\n\nBack to the topic of sex, there could certainly be drives which are detrimental to the individual ...but they feel so good at the time", "Its the double fakeout, where the people tricked are the people that can feel, they have developed a healthy reflectiveness :)", "Well thats just awesome 😊", "Coming soon (tm) to Steam, Armok help us all.\n\nRELEASE DATE: time is subjective", "What is wrong with you?", "She's American..", "I still don't understand your original comment because males dance too. Women go to see male strip shows like magic Mike.\n\nYou made it seem like only women dance, and then also that they ONLY dance for some sort of reproductive purpose.\n\nSo it's weird that you don't extend dance to men, and then only allow dance to be 100% about sex, it can be 80% about sex and 20% about exercise and skill and music", "A vagina can look like a beautiful glistening flower.\n\nChild birth is gross though. Like a scene from Aliens.", "> males dance too\n\nI didn't mean to imply that they don't. I'm sorry if I created confusion by implying that. Maybe what I should have said is that human females dance also.\n\nHere's the way the world works, as I understand it: in all sexual species, the males perform displays that have to features in common - the displays are public, and they are costly. Peacocks grow giant tails. Rams butt their heads together. Jumping spiders dance.\n\nEven within a species, there can be great variation in what the males do. All bowerbirds construct a bower and fill it with \"loot\" but some of them choose blue flowers, and some of them choose yellow fruit. The individual bird decides.\n\nHuman males also perform displays. These differ by culture and also from individual to individual. But men definitely show off their status, their power, and their wealth, in order to attract women.\n\nWhat's unusual among humans is that females also perform displays meant to attract males. These aren't simply communication, like in bees (though communicating receptivity is certainly done by women). Nor are they participatory, like most mating dances (though participation is usually a component of selection, and women do that too).\n\nNo, women are doing something that females of no other species do. And it's amusing to me that this observation is controversial.", "I'll never understand why people like you get so triggered. You resort to name calling; you just replied to the same post three times. It's all very childish.\n\nLook, I'm right, and you're wrong. Don't be triggered by that. Learn from it." ]	316	videos	Body language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_zrqRwj-w	/r/videos/comments/rfvkfl/new_orleans_saints_anthem_choppa_style_violin/	[ "When you absolutely want to go HAM and all you got is a violin.", "Oh my! Great!", "He had a bit of a Marty McFly enchantment under the sea moment towards the end rocking out so hard to his own badassness", "I've seen this a few times but I still watch it through every time, it's so cool.", "This is exactly why black people funeral parties are the best. Celebrate yo fam fam", "He's based out of Houston I believe and his youtube channel as some great clips.", "Would it not be more chopped and screwed though?", "This is surely a wedding?", "Who Dat!", "The Saints anthem is a version of the Choppa Style song made by the original artist for the team, but the Choppa Style original song was what this violinist is renditioning.", "You aint hitting the Stanky Leg in remembrance of Grandma’s memory???" ]	11	videos	New Orleans Saints Anthem - Choppa Style Violin
https://youtu.be/w4hj0F74h_M	/r/videos/comments/rfvr85/tom_cardy_soft_boy_billie_eilish_bad_guy_parody/	[ "tom cardy is one of my favorite people.", "Timely.", "Tom seems to be doing well, he can now afford a green screen" ]	3	videos	Tom Cardy - "Soft Boy" (Billie Eilish "Bad Guy" Parody)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsRFYJTwV3w	/r/videos/comments/rfw1st/cinco_boy/	[ "This is going to haunt my dreams", "Some call it cinco dream syndrome or CDS", "You can get the Cinco Sleep Watching Chair to monitor this in your friends.", "Better get some Cinco dream cream", "Eat a napple and your dreams won’t last too long.", "Cinco boy ain't got shit on Totino's Punk Rock Pizza Boy" ]	6	videos	Cinco Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqSJhrRY-Pc	/r/videos/comments/rfwlky/shockwave_echoes_in_a_tunnel_during_demolition/	[ "Work for the deaf", "WHAT!?!?", "Just the same way as this repost echoes through a handful of subreddits." ]	3	videos	Shockwave echoes in a tunnel during demolition
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pMiDBWklv1Q&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/rfww1q/a_charlie_brown_christmas_theme_linus_and_lucy/	[ "Noice mate. Kicked me right in the feel-good sack", "Awesome find, thanks for sharing", "Excellent. So good.", "This is one of my favourite Christmas soundtracks. I've never seen the film though, I only know the soundtrack." ]	4	videos	A Charlie Brown Christmas Theme 'Linus and Lucy'
https://youtu.be/T4-v5FriLrk	/r/videos/comments/rfx7ld/the_town_that_caught_tourettes_this_documentary/	[ "this is a a good plot for a south park episode lmao", "Lol it's blocked and I live in the uk", "Bahah Idk why the downvotes, this is pretty funny", "Nehnehnehtt!!!" ]	4	videos	The Town That Caught Tourette’s: this documentary sheds light on psychogenic tics
https://youtu.be/Y6B9nkrSuMI?t=40	/r/videos/comments/rfxf6z/proof_that_a_kickass_soundtrack_can_make_any/	[ "It was an amazing over the top movie. Queen did a great job with the soundtrack. Flash Gordon is in my playlist right now.", "Why did I have to watch a commercial", "I mean, why did we ever go to CGI?", "Death to Ming", "Well, Brian Blessed can also make any scene epic.", "Queen could have made Wiseau's The Room into a masterpiece.", "Cuz most of the hawkmen left in the world died in that scene\n\nThey started to realize they would need to fake scenes to make movies sustainable", "There's only a passing similarity, but I'm reminded of the time in the Justice League animated series when the Thanagarians occupied Earth.", "This is a fact.", "I added it to my gym mix.", "I saw this movie in the theatre when I was way too young and got nightmares from the scene where Klytus dies. Seeing it now is hilarious.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/ReALn0xPBuM", "Get your mom to teach you how to unplug the computer.", "You're under the impression that you need more than Brian Blessed to make a scene epic.", "Blessed is anything with Brian Blessed in it", "Marvel films will look as corny and bad as this in a couple of decades or less.", "Brian Blessed can make ANYTHING epic!", "I found the hand in the poison stump scene more nightmare inducing...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80sCD2p0W1Q\n\nAhh...the good ole days, when we had a dozen VHS movies to choose from and we played them until the tapes ripped.", "HA \"They just winged me...\" How did I miss this joke for over 40 years?", "Why'd you go see a documentary in theatres?", "Is that a quip? You mentioned my mom so I'm assuming it was. Kind of gay on your part though.", "Brian Blessed screaming and cackling like a madman? Check.\n\nGood looking and affordable practical effects that still hold up 40 years later? Check.\n\nAmazing score by Queen? Check.\n\nYup, this scene is definitely epic.", "I beg your pardon, sir. The Room is already a masterpiece.", "Whoa, me too. Exact same scene!", "Flash! Aaaaaah! He'll save everyone of us!\n\nFlash! Aaaaaah! Savior of the universe!", "Such a subdued and subtle performance. The nuance Blessed brings to the scene is truly the film maker drilling into the slow character study that is the leader of the hawk men.", "I'm too young for this. But now BirdPerson in Rick and Morty makes a lot more sense.", "The whole soundtrack album is just delicious. Soak in it: \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoYLivX8A4M", "True, but his name is actually spelled BRIAN BLESSED", "Excuse me are you trying to say this isn’t epic on its own", "Love that the Brian line became the base song for highlander. Who wants to live forever?", "For real lol. This scene would be amazing with or without the music. But the music does make it better.", "I still find watching some movies without the weird distored sound that they got after a little while on VHS to be a bit off.The beginning of Star Wars is just better if the score is a liiiittle distorted.", "BirdPerson actually came from Buck Rogers and was named [Hawk](https://external-preview.redd.it/ECHjgzeitRlAgfl4qMd4L_7QDZOxKT4poHktqILJgJI.jpg?auto=webp&s=9c0dd27231e3a231bf0eafe78be28a1d639732fd)", "My dad and I went to see the movie and I was FREAKED OUT by the stump scene. I was sure every stump had deadly creatures in it...I wouldn't go near a stump we had in our backyard for like a year.", "Honestly, if you've never seen Flash Gordon, you NEED to see it. It's a fun movie that got panned for no good reason.", "Yeah, and you get a blip of the commercial break when you miss the stop of recording.", "That's not even one of the better parts of the sound track either!" ]	38	videos	Proof that a kickass soundtrack can make any scene epic
https://youtu.be/AE2utktZ92Y	/r/videos/comments/rfxody/jiminy_glick_martin_short_and_jerry_seinfeld_with/	[ "Uh oh, low flow water saver shower head at it again.", "Zach Galifinakis should have Jiminy Glick on Between Two Ferns.", "I think Jerry really is that mean, that's how he makes it seem so effortless.", "Zach’s show stands on the shoulders of Short’s Glick character.", "I think he’s probably be the first one to agree with you.", "I'd say it more sits on the shoulders, like a strong obese toddler straddling Glick's head for dear life.", "To be fair, most people were a little tired of Delta Burke back then.", "Who stood on the shoulders of Martin Mull and Fred Willard in Fernwood Tonight.", "Man I had completely blocked the Glick character out of my mind. What a dumb thing.", "Check out the awkward interview between him and Gordon Keith\n\nhttps://youtu.be/CPJowXgH3YU\n\nGordo is a genius", "Proud P1!", "You know this is Martin Short in a fat suit, right?", "No, it's Jimmy Glick. Martin Short is just a character that Glick plays when he puts on a skinny suit.", "Zack seemed like he was pissed off. Then he stole the idea.", "Sure, but have you seen Omicron Burke??", "I'm surprised by how many people think Martin Short is real. You can totally see the skinny suit!", "You’ve put a lot of thought into this.", "Yeah. LEAST popular transformer.", "This was in 2010. Zach had been doing B2F for 2 years already, by then.", "\"I hate people; big fan of being alone. No noise, do what I want when I want, no negotiating on what to eat for dinner; it's perfect.\"", "The anus is on you.", "You obviously don't know ANYTHING about gordon keith. He's been on air here in Dallas on the ticket 1310 AM for about 3 decades, and hes been making people awkward for 30 years. He was doing awkward interviews way before Zach.", "Never heard of him till now. Still, the comment I replied to was saying he stole the idea after this interview.", "Jiminy Glick to Mel Brooks, \"What's your big beef with the Nazis?!\"\n\nAlso, Short's episode in Comedians in getting Coffee is great. Short and Seinfeld spend time talking about Glick, and this interview.", "Bold move of Seinfeld with the sexual deviant comment considering he dated a 16 yo at the height of Seinfeld." ]	25	videos	Jiminy Glick (Martin Short) and Jerry Seinfeld with an improv clinic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMaRxb7vXH4	/r/videos/comments/rfxoe8/2050_short_film/	[ "Was waiting for “Please drink verification can!”", "i loved that. so well produced for such a simple dark joke.", "Oh look it’s Shrek", "I didn't expect the punchline, and it's a decent production with a suitable soundtrack. Short enough to not be stretched too thin like a lot of short films.", "I didn't get it, someone please explain", "The second guy actually was a robot, just a newer model.", "Which the man determined when it couldn't complete the CAPTCHA.", "Which is even funnier since this is supposed to be a super advanced, fourth-generation robot, passable for human in every other way, yet it still can't bypass a basic CAPTCHA.", "Leather bastard!", "Which doesn't even make sense since there are auto solving CAPTCHA programs today.", "Ssshhh ! They don't have to know.", "Would've worked in a comic strip format, but I ain't mad.", "Mel Brooks meets Blade Runner. I love it", "It's a reference to Blade Runner and computer learning programs we use to avoid bots." ]	14	videos	2050 - short film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dOVVIaZM7I	/r/videos/comments/rfy1hc/just_ran_across_this_the_bee_gees_stayin_alive_as/	[ "Hits on so many levels.", "God I love the internet", "My favorite thing on the internet for the day, by far.", "This is a remake of an older one\n\nhttps://youtu.be/QbC6dLG_dQY\n\nAs awful as the North Korean regime is... you have to give them credit; their army appears to be super disciplined, pretty impressive actually", "I gotta say, for the most part, I like the newer one better... Except that that one bit near the end of the old geezers clapping along... <chef kiss>", "So is the idea that they have to stare robotically at the leader? Yeah, that makes sense.", "They use tractors to transport their rockets?\n\n\"We will get to the frontline... eventually.\"", "Almost makes you forget how many of these people will participate in the systemic torture and imprisonment of their fellow citizens.", "Someone needs to do this with “enter the gladiators.”" ]	9	videos	Just ran across this: The Bee Gee's "Stayin' Alive" as the soundtrack for a North Korean military parade
https://youtu.be/ajb-YbY3-rw	/r/videos/comments/rfzb0y/offending_every_race_ethnicity_sexuality_all_in/	[ "That scene is a masterpiece.", "'That's the problem with this country, nobody cares where they come from'. I feel like Americans care way too much about where they 'come from'.", "I come from a logging family. I always pay for the paper bags.", ">\"I hate Vietnam! I want to go home!\"\n\npretty well every US soldier in South Vietnam in 1968\n\nI don't watch this program, how is the girl born in Vietnam?", "She was adopted", "🤯", "I just wasted 3 mins of my life.", "I’m sorry did you come to Reddit to be productive?", "Name a single country on Earth where people don’t care about where they came from", "Brilliant...it had notes of that [gay Klansman skit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ4hYdxMIzY) on Chappelle's Show...", "For most people ‘I’m from - the country they were born/raised in’ but in my experience many Americans feel the need to give you some protracted family history. Describing yourself as ‘Italian’ seems absurd if you’ve weren’t born there and have never been/lived there.", "Well this was actually kinda funny.", "America is a nation of immigrants\n\nWe \"feel the need\" as a result of fighting time erasing us from our progeny's history. If you live in the Italian countryside with a rather homogenous population than people, as a majority, know where their neighbors come from.\n\nMany of us assume we have to tell you.", "Lol so funny. Same guy who thinks trans are too woke now", "Plenty of countries are \"Nations of immigrants\" and still consider themselves from the country they immigrated to after 1 generation.\n\nAmericans have a burning desire to feel special", "I can say about Brazil, most people have an ancestry somewhere and no one cares about that.\n\nMaybe others could say the same about Canada or Australia", "> Name any other country that only opened itself up to mass migration from the 18th century on, re-populating itself with denizens from all over the world to become one of the largest nations on earth in just a couple hundred years?\n\nChina, Russia, Brazil.\n\n18th Century BC would be Egypt.", "This skit is actually fairly consistent with his most recent special where he claims white gay/trans people can fall back on being white when the need arises.", "The first 4-5 seasons were actually brilliant believe it or not.", "China? Forced relocation of the Uyghurs and Tibetans doesn't count.", "Guy above me said 18th century immigration.\n\nTRY READING THE WHOLE FUCKING THREAD GOD FUCKING DAMNIT ASSMUNCH", "Until Manny turns into a perv and then Al Bundy jumps the shark.", "Jumps the shark?", "Having lived in Canada and the US cultural attitudes in both are almost identical", "Not American here, but i still care where I'm from. I live in Norway but I'll never be Norwegian. Neither will my future kids no matter how much they bleach their hair.\n\nThat you personally have no respect for your heritage doesn't mean we others forget ours.", "It was kinda lazy", "Just Google Fonzie and Happy Days.", "Turns out, paper bags are better for the environment these days because they come from tree farms that are continuously replanted and regrown. The paper can be reused, composted, or recycled. In the end, the paper will break down into something on this earth that will eat it.\nI know that paper farms have displaced regions of old-growth forests with monoculture paper tree growth, but at least the trees are still sequestering carbon to some extent. Humans will kill forests no matter what, I don't know how we get out of it.\nToday we do far more forest destructing damage by supporting livestock, livestock feed, and certain commodities like palm oil. That plastic bag is going to rip to shreds into microplastics and then into the oceans and your body for the next 1000 years.", "> Name a single country on Earth where people don’t care about where they came from\n\nThe US for most of it's existence.\n\nHere in Canada, we were considered the mosaic compared to the US being the melting pot.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_mosaic\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot\n\nThe US was segregated and black Americans weren't really included in the mix and were left as an outside cultural group until the Civil Rights movement in the 60s which fought to end segregation and have black people become integrated to the melting pot.\n\nThis lasted until 1989 when the US adopted the African-American label and turned multicultural.\n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/31/us/african-american-favored-by-many-of-america-s-blacks.html\n\nBlack people weren't actually asked if they wanted to adopt the label and many didn't like it because they spent a lot of time just trying to be integrated and they had nothing to do with Africa. Most were born in the US.\n\nAll this stuff was pushed by the media and social academics and political groups that benefit from keeping 'black people' marginalized and culturally segregated.\n\nLabels like black or white are social constructs and just strip people of their individuality. If someone wants to care about their ethnic roots, that should be personal choice, not a forced social obligation made by people who benefit from dividing people.", "Your future kids will decide for themselves. It is not your decision", "> America is a nation of immigrants\n\nbut the problem is the US is not at all unique in this regard. Every american country is a nation of immigrants. Mexico, Brazil, Jamaica, etc. The US just likes tooting their own horn about this.", "If they are white then they are white, right? No need to fall back into that.", "Sorry but Americans, like all human beings, have always cared about where they came from. Otherwise why would every major American city have their own ethnic neighborhoods (Chinatowns, Little Italys, etc). I’m not sure the second half of your comment has anything to do with the fact that Americans do in fact care about cultural origins.", "In his special, Dave Chappelle says that white gay/trans people will identify as gay/trans when it is advantageous (garnering sympathy etc) but are able to present themselves as 'regular white folk' in other situations (dealing with police etc).\n\n* Please don't take this as me echoing Dave's opinions, I'm just explaining his stance.", "I used to watch this show so much. I forgot it all though. After awhile, I started to lose interest and focus. I think I was on season 8? It felt like season 5. Everything between was a blur.", "Yep I agree", "Where they don't come from in many cases.", "This show is fucking terrible.\n\nNot because it's \"Offensive\", but because it's cringe.", "I'll never forget this African American woman who was staying in the same Tanzanian Serengeti hotel as us. At breakfast she was screaming \"I'm trying to get back to my roots!\" and \"I'm an American citizen!\" at the staff because they wouldn't let her go in the hot air balloon because she was too fat.", "I mean, a fuckton of countries work like this. The British, Persian, Greek, and Roman Empires kinda spread their shit around.", "Can you explain why you care?", "Yeah not really my humor either", "Because people sacrificed their lives for me to be who and what i am. I won't dishonor their memory by throwing away my identity to appease some colonists or nazi descendants. Doubt an American or Brit would understand. You don't know what it's like to be hunted and exterminated for being the wrong ethnicity. \n\nLife is cheap some say. All the more reason to cherish it. Call me sentimental if it makes you feel better.", "You live in Norway and if you had children there you would never consider them or yourself Norwegian? If you are an immigrant and not just a temporary expat - you are exactly they kind of immigrants we don’t want in Europe. We want immigrants that integrate and become part of our nations fabric. A ethnically African guy from the UK is British, an ethnically South Asian guy from the UK is British etc. I understand heritage, it’s not a matter of respect, but in terms of having a practical conversation of ‘so, where are you from’ and you telling me about your DNA seems silly.", "I'll feel bad for them then. And i will feel bad for myself for not having done a better job.\n\nI'll forgive you for your ignorance tho. You don't mean harm, you just don't know better.", "Never heard about the word gringo?", "Man peacock marketing is everywhere on reddit now huh?", "You can choose not to get offended, I know I do.", "Hey, Norwegians tried killing me once. I honestly couldn't care less what they think. I have one of their passports (in addition to my own) and i pay taxes. Legally speaking, you can't say shit.\n\n\nAlso, you lie. You don't want people to integrate. You want people to assimilate. Just like you did with the Sámi people. Just because you stopped with forced boarding schools doesn't mean you changed as a people. I don't know what your part of Norway is like, but in my part there's still Eisern Kreuzes hanging.", "You certainly have the American attitude though.", "This is why Modern Family is the only comedy show that even comes close to The Office. Such a great and hilarious way to make fun of everything and everyone while staying funny and classy.", "I feel like that is another part of the joke.", "I loved this scene in particular.", "So?", "Is Dave Chappelle's comedy now completely informed by his resentments against American society? I remember the TV show having a little bit more than just resentment comedy, but it was definitely there.", "Did this stumble in later seasons, I did watch a handful of few episodes including the one where this clip is from.", ">Jumps the shark\n\nshow was pretty good until children were children", "Probably the same way they are born anywhere else", "I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Americans seem obsessed about their heritage, where I'm just thinking: who thef cares where you come from, what color you are, how old, what your sexual preference is, I don't give a shit. If you're a nice person you're a nice person, if you're an asshole you're an asshole. Doesn't matter where you come from or what you identify as.\n\nI'm just one simple man, but sometimes I think that if americans could just forget where they came from or with what they identify themselves as, they could get along with eachother way better. Seems like most Americans value their group identity above their individual identity, which is a very strange thing to me. But oh well, in the end it's not my problem since it's not my country.", "People trying to feel unique by means of identifying with a group above idenifying as an individual...? Your logic seems flawed.", "Id love to see a high level klansman tell me with a straight face and eye contact that that woman is unattactive.", "Well, what do you expect? From my perspective you're no different than someone telling a jew in the 50s \"why can't you just be a German instead of a Jew?\"\n\nI mean, people didn't mind exterminating people whether they were Irish or Sámi. With bullets and famine, and with culture when that got frowned upon.\n\nIt's easy to tell people to kill their culture when you're the dominant one.", "The writing in modern family started out clever, funny, and relatable. ~~It's~~ Its gradual slide into mediocrity was painful to witness.", "You didn't seem to give a shit about their sacrifice when you left your home country, but by all means tell us more.", ">I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Americans seem obsessed about their heritage, where I'm just thinking: who thef cares where you come from\n\nYeah, outside of having a conversation about heritage etc, it's weird that they seem to bring it up so often. I can only go by my own experience, but I think it stems from some cultural insecurity. I knew an American guy, who was a very nice guy, he was ethnically from Tunisia but his grandparents migrated to the US and both him and his parents were born in the US. He was always talking about how his tunisian heritage, aspects of his personality that he associates with 'being Tunisian' - we were currently living in the Middle-East and there were plenty of Tunisians about. He only spoke English, he had never been to Tunisa... yet he was super 'Tunisian'... except when meeting an actual Tunisian - then he was back to regular American, and that became his defining national identity.", "If the group they try to identify with is different from the group around them, it would make them unique wouldn’t it?", "Wasn't my choice to leave. I was too young then.\n\nYou seem like an angry bitter person. Also unaware of either nuance and the fact that i can do more good from away.", "Certainly, as an outsider, the hyphenated identity many Americans have seems peculiar to me. Especially when oftentimes it seems the roots with which they identify is a few generations back in their family. I find it quite interesting.", "Cannabis plants can be grown quickly and cheaply and used in making papers. No need to go logging.", "This is something that I struggle to understand but it also seems that \"white Americans\" try to make sure that non white Americans are defined as \"that country you are from - American\".. ie African-American or Asian-American but a white American is just called \"American\".. it seems very strange.\n\nI'm a white south African and we aren't called \"european-african\" or \"european-southafrican\". I'm just south Africa.. in SA they could call people like me english or white if you need to be more specific. But yeah. Odd.", "You should post the tale on /r/shitamericanssay.", ">Hey, Norwegians tried killing me once. I honestly couldn't care less what they think. I have one of their passports (in addition to my own) and i pay taxes. Legally speaking, you can't say shit.\n\nI can say what I like, and 'Norwegians tried killing me once' seems like a bullshit excuse. You should leave if your life is in danger... in what I imagine is one of the safest countries on Earth, surely? \n\n>Also, you lie. You don't want people to integrate. You want people to assimilate.\n\nI don't recognise a meaningful difference between those definitions. I want immigrants who want to become the nationality, that is what immigration means to me, thankfully, the vast majority are like this, integrate and assimilate and are a tremenous addition to the country. You, taking the passport and all the benefits whilst having no connection with the country, are an abberation, the Norwegian system has failed you. I'm not Norwegian nor living in Norway. Do you not see the hypocrisy of still claiming 'to be' your old nationality having left them for a better life in another country?", "I'd love to hear him explaining how a trans person can present themselves as \"regular white folk\" 🤷🏾‍♀️", "Modern Family had all the potential to get hijacked as a pretentious woke-fest, yet somehow resisted.", "I was about to correct you that this is an ABC show, but I guess NBC scooped it, is nothing sacred??", "I don't care where you came from, but I also realize that it's a luxury that some people can afford not to care. \n\nSome people won't let different people forget it.", "Hope the recent log4j vulnerabilities haven't been too bad for you folks.", "No one is asking anyone to kill their fucking culture holy shit you are able to exaggerate much. I feel bad for your children, it's clear that you won't allow them to be themselves or grow up the way they want to be. You'll force them to your own ideals every step of the way. Which I could also attempt to equate with Nazism attempting to force uniformity.\n\nEnd of the day though if you are truly that much against integration then you are a detriment to your own society and well being and that's just sad. Fringe communities exist but aren't good for anyone and only ever staying in your own group instead of mingling just creates hate on both sides.", "Sooo... You want me to Not teach them my language nor my culture. Yet it is not killing the culture?\n\n\nYou're quite arrogant. And again, ignorant. You don't know me nor my contributions to society.\n\nNice strawman, by the way.", "Leaving is great. To leave my properties and profit to the people that tried to kill me. I thought you'd learn from Chamberlain that appeasement doesn't work. You're really smart.\n\n\nThat you don't recognize the difference in those two definitions shows how ethnocentric your worldview is. Shameful, really.\n\nI don't see any hypocrisy. I have two passports, property and family in the old country. That that is an abomination unto your eyes is telling how narrow your worldview is.\n\nI'd recommend some introspection and a good therapist. You need one.", "Same it wasn’t funny", "\"You're too fat\" \"I'm an american citizen!\" \"While that does explain why you're so fat that doesn't change the fact that we can't allow you in the balloon.\"", "Honestly, it's like 90% people being racist and people pointing out that they've had it hard because other people/government systems/companies are racist. You should hear the way the Italian-Americans I grew up around talked about the Russians moving in, you'd think they were going around kicking puppies.", "Like I know it's suppose to be funny, but it's just so bland", "Gotta hyphenate so you know who’s “pure”.", "My first impression was like \"oh cool gay representation\" and then they were like \"here's the obnoxious effeminate gay guy and here's his even more effeminate gay husband\". Like thanks I guess? Can we get gay characters who aren't singing Cabaret for once?", "When?", "It's not uncommon for bigots to be attracted to minorities, slave owners regularly raped the people they saw as \"inferior\".", "as a vietnamese person, the most offensive thing about that clip is how they were eating the pho. no chopsticks? just drinking the soup and not eating the noodles?! WHO ARE THESE MONSTERS?!", "Gotta fix that step", ">To leave my properties and profit to the people that tried to kill me. I thought you'd learn from Chamberlain that appeasement doesn't work. You're really smart.\n\nSo... you only view Norwegians as 'the people who tried to kill me' and liken your struggle to the outbreak of WW2, right. Totally healthy and normal outlook. \n\n>That you don't recognize the difference in those two definitions shows how ethnocentric your worldview is. Shameful, really.\n\nYou miss where I said 'A ethnically African guy from the UK is British, an ethnically South Asian guy from the UK is British etc' but I'm ethno-centric, sure. I'd be proud to be judged by you, you sound awful. \n\n> I'd recommend some introspection and a good therapist. You need one.\n\nYes, Please 'Mr. This whole country TRIED TO KILL ME ARRGH', tell me again how I need therapy?", "I saw a guy do a deep dive into his Korean ancestry because he was adopted from there. Turns out with some research he wasn't Korean at all but a child of a Chinese and Japanese couple who had moved there. Dude didn't know what the fuck to study anymore.", "around 5 or 6 i greatly lost interest in this show. i don't even remember at this point why cause it's been so long.", "hehe, I totally forgot that this show used to be pretty good.", "Norwegian govt did and still do support the people that literally did genocide in my homeland.\n\nI can show you the photos of my gouged eye when a Norwegian tried removing it because he didn't like me. Or the bumper of my last car when another tried ramming me off the road. I know I'm \"damaged\", but fuck it, I'm still alive and that counts for something.\n\nI do envy you who have lived such a safe life that you can't imagine someone wanting you dead, or someone trying to maim you. Such a sheltered existence is rare.\n\n\nI'm just gonna block you. You've obviously a lack of empathy and perspective. You're just out to belittle and insult. Thus this farce of a conversation leads nowhere.", "As a 1/16th Italian, 1/58ths Cherokee, 1/4 Irish and 1/38ths Nigerian, I totally agree!", "I have lived most of my life in the Middle-East, somehow I think the countries I've lived and still live in are more dangerous than Norway, but wtv.", "Bar is pretty low then", "No he came here for entertainment and he didn't get it ding dong. Wake up", "I miss this show so much man. Suffered from going on too long tho", "Look at their history - definitely a habitual Reddit poster. Almost certainly a paid account. \n\nThis post is just an ad. If only 10% of you see this and think \"oh yeah, I remember that show - I'll check it out!\" then the post was a success.", "Great scene. Lily actor grew up to be the worst actor of all time though.", "\"My mom was Lithuanian and my pop was French, so when I see a baguette, I don't know whether to eat it, or shove it up my ass\"", "As long as old growth isn't being screwed with its all good really. It's biomass. \n\nKilling older trees and forests has implications which I don't even think we fully understand", "Don't try to act innocent you don't want to teach your children your culture you literally said you'd be disappointed in them and yourself if they considered themselves Norwegian. That's not teaching, that's indoctrination.\n\nThe only argument you could possibly make you already fought against yourself. You are free to teach your children your culture but they can do with that what they please. You however already made it very clear that that's not what you want.", "Almost every nation is a nation of immigrants, and nobody gives a fuck like Americans whose great great great great grandfather once went on a boat.", "That's kind of the point of this entire joke\n\n\nWith Americans this kind of stuff is largely performative. Lily is behaving as an American would because she's been raised as one.\n\nBut I guess this isn't intelleckchual enough", ">This is why Modern Family is the only comedy show that even comes close to The Office\n\nWatch more TV. Try something from outside America.", "That's just not true. You can clearly see Gloria using chopsticks. And it's a three-minute video more focused on Lily's tirade, not the eating of pho.", "A reverse Fred Armison situation!", "Now you're arguing in circles. And what do the Norwegians do? Isn't that indoctrination too? To teach kids that they've nowhere else to belong except the society that ostracized them? Or to teach them to be ashamed of being Sámi? That's still a thing btw, it's still taboo to mention having Sámi family. \n\nAgain they're free to choose. Just like I'm free to be disappointed when people make dumb decisions. Just like when people start smoking.", "With ya there. It turned into repetitive sitcom schtick", "Is there a good \"ending point\" to stop on? Or will it not really feel fulfilling? I usually don't bother if a show ends up becoming rough.", "My folks love this show, and most of the times that I catch a glimpse, the humor feels too labored to really be funny, but the subject matter definitely lives up to the show's title. And this scene in particular was pretty funny.", "I thought it was trying to hard; definitely not checking it out", "Although I agree the early-middle seasons were best I think it just about held in there. Woke-culture was in full swing towards the end of its running and it avoided it pretty well. I think they just ran out of scenarios for their characters, half of who started as children and were all now adults. Could have definitely finished a few seasons earlier but rewatched them all recently having never been balled over by them first time round and its actually pretty consistent. Reminds me of friends. Should have ended two seasons earlier but never quite got into fully outstaying it's welcome.", "When a considerable part of your show is \"kids acting funny\", you better have a plan in place for when they stop being kids.", "Europe? Nah don't think so.", "Yeah but a group can never be as unique as an individual can be.", "NJ/NY Italians will be VERY quick to let you know they are Italian. They will also be quick to correct certain words like \"muzzarell\" even though they've never been to Italy or don't even actually speak the language.", "Recently watched all of this. Was really surprised at the consistent quality of all 11 seasons.", "They totally forgot to offend my ethnic group. I've never been so offended in my life. Its as if we don't even exist.", "You people are getting paid?", "Straight from the Va-Jay-Jay", "It's actually spelled log4jbob, but the bob is silent.", "She might get cast by Larry David. Does her dad own a restaurant?", "Identity politics is a poison that destroys everything it touches.", "See also every single American TV show", "It boils down to\n\n>I don't like [thing]\n\nCue [thing] walking into frame.", "I don't think it's mainly about that. I think it's mostly about the deep universal human desire to know where you're coming from/connecting to your roots/ancestors.", "Ironically enough they are pronouncing it wrong.", "maybe the difference is that for those other countries their main immigration waves are far older and/or the people have other pressing issues to take care of.", "It was like instead of writing a joke, they wrote a script explaining a joke.", "that really depends on the level of passing as the gender they want to pass as", "The most wooden actor ever. Never enjoyed a single scene in which she is featured.", "I'm 1/256 Cheyenne. Respect my heritage.", "Does the last season feel like the last season?", "> grew up to be\n\nShe is only 14. She can probably act way better than most other 14 year olds.", "\"As an Italian this offends me\"", "It's weird as hell to us too.", "https://youtu.be/X-eHk4RiIso", "Oh ffs\n\nYou can just say black", "'Pasta' also, does my head in", "I mean it’s a TV scene where the “food” is mostly props. They usually do multiple takes and stuffing your face with noodles for multiple takes would not sit well with the actors. At least with just the spoons, they can act that they’re eating the soup and no one would notice. Plus I guess it fits the scene where the characters don’t really know how to eat phở.", "Most other 14year olds isn’t what she’s being measured against though.", "Yeah, but drugs r bad m’kay. /s", "Math", "It’s a 3 year old account with only 7k karma. No one’s getting paid for this I bet.", "The thing with ancestry is that no one's \"pure\". Throughout history, everyone's fucking everyone.", "Vie-jay-jay", "Man, I used to love Modern Family. I didn't remember this scene but I've definitely seen it. But watching it again, you could hear the horn on every joke train a mile down the tracks. The set ups to this whole thing were so clunky.", "Mate, so what if he was or wasn't. Half the content here are ads", "My pappy taught me logging, and his pappy fore him!", "This is exactly why they removed the dislike button..", "Yeah but not other 14 year old actors. She is immesenly bad.", "The Office isn’t even a top 10 show in the US…", "But... She was literally an African American. That's part of the story. She was an American with African ancestry hence why she was in Tanzania to get back to their roots. I summed up this persons origin and ancestry in 2 words to more quickly and easily convey the information needed to understand the story.", "White Americans do it too. Irish, Italian, German, etc, etc, everyone will tell you where they migrated from.", ">Is Dave Chappelle's comedy now completely informed by his resentments against American society?\n\n\"Now\"?", "99% of the shit on it is asylum tier trash, too.", "Divide and conquer. We don’t want to label ourselves, it’s forced on the population. Every Doctors office or Government form you fill out. We are required to pick from pre-approved list of ethnicity’s. This occurs at our jobs as well. These dividing labels are taught to school children early on.", "Well no group would have exactly the same individuals in it, otherwise it would be the same group. So I think a group can be exactly as unique as an individual. \n\nUnless you’re talking about the number of characteristics an individual has compared to a group. In which case the group has the number of characteristics of one individual multiplied by the number of group members.\n\nThe reason people self-select into groups is because they (want to) have some characteristics in common with other people, because the shared characteristic (presumably) makes them better than those not in the group. It’s not about being unique. It’s about having ‘us’ people agree that being different (in the sense of the groups defining shared characteristic) makes the ‘us’ people better than ‘them’, the ones without the characteristics (and accordingly outside the group). It’s about belonging.", "To be fair none of child actors on this show are good.", "How isn't it \"woke\"? It has a lot of fun with the characters accidentally breaking the rules of propiety (except racist grandpa) and being mortified by it. This from episode 1.", "I’ve tried for like 3 minutes to try and understand what message you’re trying to get across here and I don’t get it", "Especially when the trees decide they’ve had enough of it.", "It’s a really good show haha especially the first 6-7 seasons.", "We do metric over here", "Ireland here. Oh boy are you right.", "It’s a weird situation. Paper bags are renewable and compostable but take more energy to produce and recycle. Plastic is not renewable but it’s far less energy intensive to make and recycle but otherwise will last centuries in the ground. Probably still better in the long term to choose paper though.", "She’s black dog. You’re not a white American or white European. You’re just a white dude. Just like she’s just a black woman from America. \n\nI don’t think you’ve said anything wrong, but this is what will happen when you call people names that they don’t necessarily want to be called", "Oh that's weird. A completely blank comment posted by a completely blank user profile.", "That doesn’t add up to 1! Or is the rest of you just normal? /s", "Fun fact: Trees used to be the biggest assholes in nature, and that is why we have coal.\n\nBack in the carboniferous period, trees figured out how to produce lignin, a substance which at the time was incapable of being broken down by any other lifeform on earth. It was the tree equivalent of styrofoam. They wrapped themselves in lignin and cellulose in much thicker volumes than what we see today. When they died, they simply fell over and stayed on the ground, because nothing could decompose these trees.\n\nFor fifty million years these trees kept piling up, and as they did so they altered the atmosphere. They sucked so much carbon out of the air that insects grew to gigantic proportions due to the higher ratio of oxygen to CO2 (insects breath through their skin, so their size is dependent on oxygen levels in the atmosphere. This is why insects are so small nowadays and are incapable of growing to the sizes they used to be). For many lifeforms on earth, trees were an ultimate unstoppable source of pollution.\n\nFinally, fungi evolved the ability to degrade lignin, and the terrible reign of trees was over. However, all the dead and buried material from their fifty million year lignin orgy remained in the ground and became the coal we see today. That is where most of our fossil fuel comes from.", "People have been fired for those kinds of misunderstandings. That was a funny scene.", "Exactly, that's why Europeans have hated eachothers nationality for millennia, we can say where you grew up at least /s\n\nWith the horrors of wars back then who knows who your real ancestors were. The people who raised them or the soldiers who eh... 'sired' them. Or maybe grandma had a side piece. Maybe someone found an orphan ans took care of that child of their own.", "The thing is very few American slaves were from Tanzania. They were most likely from Ghana.", "I keep meaning to have a go at making a pho but haven't got around to it yet, thanks for reminding me!", "If I recall up through season 3/4 is good. At the very least watch season 1 it's gold.", "I think you're possibly miss-understanding 'Woke-culture' as a good thing?", "I mean this post might be paid or whatever but it was still enjoyable.", "True i have heard \"Italian American\"... Still seems like a weird thing.", "Nobody mentioned slavery. Her family was from Tanzania, doesn't mean they were slaves.", "My account is 5 years old and has less karma, I'm sad now", "Yes this highly offensive scene really let the lefties have it!", "But African American is the name black Americans by-and-large do want to be called", "Don't forget the American phrase craze with \"Cultural appropriation\". You look into that bullshit, and it's ONLY studies written by a few Americans. Most cultures actually enjoy you embracing their culture, as it allows growth and knowledge transfer.", "Especially because they also put so much importance on being American", "What’s weird is that it was an ABC network show but a Fox studio production, so this should definitely be a Disney+ property. \n\nMy guess is they gave Universal some rights a while back when 20th sold it onto syndication on USA network pre merger.", "such a great series", "If a white guy was visiting Norway to find information on ancestors, he would be a Norwegian American because the context is an American with ancestral history in Norway. The term \"African American\" in casual conversation describing all black people is ridiculous as there are many other Black countries around the world besides Africa. In this case, I am using the term in exactly the correct context.\n\nIn this case, it doesn't matter what anyone wants to be called, it is just a matter of conveying factual information.", "I feel that's just America media in a nutshell. It loves to group people, no matter what. Race, sexuality, wealth & if that fails, your political choice.", "My dad worked at a papermill for 25 years until the chemical exposure eventually gave him cancer, and he died. I became a programmer and go out of my way to eliminate paper usage, lol.", "I feel it's a mix of the old sitcom stereotype of \"everyone listening in\" and the camera angles do it a disservice.", "I'm never sure how being aware of/caring about others is seen as a bad thing.", "All the people I know that scream cultural appropriation have no problem eating sushi.", "I don't think fractions are imperial exclusive", "Ideally that plan would probably be \"end the show\" but I guess it must still make money", "> I feel like Americans care way too much about where they 'come from'.\n\nand what race the are too.", "I'd argue except Seinfeld", "The bit about going back to where you came from hurt me as a mexican\n\nI closed the app out of cringe", "> ~~deep universal human desire~~\n\ndeep universal american desire", "Sunny is still going strong. Hopefully it ends on a high", "This is Honestly a beautiful scene. Imagine being that good at writing a cluster fuck. \"I'm not Vietnamese I'm gay I'M GAY\"", "They probably can, hell even someone not a racist could say that. Beauty is subjective. Personally I think her mouth is too big for one, she also looks like she's covering up many wrinkles with THAT much make up on...", "> insects breath through their skin\n\nThis is misleading. Insects don't have skin as we think of it they have chitin and they have breathing holes and a network of tubes (tracheae) to defuse oxygen.", "Speaking of modern families.....", "I just like history and learning about my ancestry don't see an issue with that. Though there are some idiots everywhere who take it WAY TO SERIOUSLY.", "nah, it's just that's it's obvious/less relevant in countries where the migration waves happened a longer time ago.", "I like your sense of humor", "It's not? But that's not what woke-culture is", "Not trying to start at argument here. I think \"woke\" means different things to different people, which is what causes a lot of the arguing. \n\nFor people who view woke culture as a good thing, they view it as people simply not being racist, and loving.\n\nFor people who view woke culture as a bad thing, they view it as people who become racist, in an attempt undo racism. It's an overcorrection of sort, where they need to constantly make things about race/identity, in scenarios where it shouldn't be brought up.\n\nI've definitely seen scenarios where people were called \"woke\", but were just being good people. I've also see others where people needlessly brought race into the conversation where it wasn't needed, and brought toxicity.", "It's more the distinction between the core ideology and the performative, lecturing aspect. \n\nLike imagine the difference between a gender studies professor who leads by example and doesn't make anyone feel lesser for who they are, versus an angry undergrad who resents being made to feel lesser and can't help but implicitly convey the feeling that heteronormative people are at best slightly bad. \n\nIt may be understandable, but it's both wrong and counterproductive. And, if they're very lucky, they'll grow out of it in time.", "Ok, maybe I have to give modern family another try. 🤣🤣🤣", "I mean she looks exactly the same just taller.", "You undermine your own words tho. Being part of a group is not about belonging, at least not solely. You yourself gave the answer why:\n\n>It’s about having ‘us’ people agree that being different (in the sense of the groups defining shared characteristic) makes the ‘us’ people better than ‘them’\n\nPeople want to feel that they're better than others. They want to feel higher than others. That's why a large part of groups in this world are really good at demonising their 'countergroup'. A lot of groups are about creating separation, making it able to place yourself on a pedestal above 'members of other groups, refusing to communicate or debate with different groups or different opinions, believing they and they alone hold the truth, because obviously, they're better.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Unless you’re talking about the number of characteristics an individual has compared to a group. In which case the group has the number of characteristics of one individual multiplied by the number of group members.\n\nNo, see, this is the utopia of group-thinking. This is how it should be, how a good group should work. But sadly reality is a lot different, since people part of whichever group tend to identify themselves as a member of the group, framing their unique identity so that it'd match the group-morals, thereby taking away a part of their uniqueness to be able to be a part of the group.\n\nA lone wolf always is more unique than a flock-sheep.\n\nA group can never be as unique as an individual, since basically all groups tend to surpress individual uniqueness. Obviously I'm generalising and there are exceptions, but exceptions proves the rule.", "Maybe I just haven’t met the right people, but as someone from a NY Italian family I haven’t ever heard anyone pronounce pasta any differently than what I know as “normal” so I guess that’s where I’m confused. I gotta find these people that say pasta different I guess 😂", "Same for the 'Irish' Americans, half of which will be of English decent but we aren't downtrodden enough to be sexy.", "My mom used to tell me about the yellow sulfur fog that was omnipresent in her hometown of Lewiston, ME. I can’t imagine that it had anything to do with the two different types of cancer she survived, or the one she finally succumbed to (admittedly, a lifetime of smoking had a fuck ton to do with it too).", "I think a big part of it was that initially the kids were somewhat funny/cute when they were little, but then just became really annoying and terrible actors when they grew up. Phil/Claire/Jay remained consistent imo.", "r/iamverysmart — but it a good way this time! Spot on.", "Just ask Saruman.", "So that's a.... television show. \n...mmm..", "I'm not surprised, considering generally(!) americans have bad taste and are really easily offended. Seeing the brilliance of The Office requires an acquired taste, a sharp mind and a thick skin.", "Says who??? My anecdotal experience says otherwise.", "Yeah imagine having less karma than someone whose account is half your age, let alone a quarter of your accounts age.\n\nhahahaha hahah ha", "“Human of hue” 😂😂😂 Now THAT is funny.", ">This is misleading.\n\nFact checkers have ruined this country. ^(/s)", "You know Cameron meant, “…to visit”,right? The line before from Mitchell is important.", ">Cannabis plants can be grown quickly and cheaply and used in making papers. No need to go logging.\n\nNon sequitur", "it was one of the most egregious examples of Flanderization ever.", "Va-Jay-Jay", "Meet the new Aristocracy, same as the old one...", "I prefer Vag-Nam", "Again, not supporting his opinions, but [IIRC] the example he used in \"The Closer\" was when a white 'trans person' chose to call the cops on him at a restaurant (something \"regular white folk\" can do)", "America is such a relatively new country with so many immigrants that nobody’s history goes back that far here. \n\nHumans like to have cultural and historical backgrounds man. Their American history is often insufficient so they look further back for roots. I don’t think it’s a problem.", ">, is nothing sacred?? \n\nModern Family is on syndication. It lost sacredness years ago lol", "Gave is a strange way of saying “highest bidder.”", "(•_•)\n\n( •_•)>⌐■-■\n\n(⌐■_■)", "Wow this was incredibly mediocre of a scene. Is this astroturfed? why is it showing up on my front page with so few upvotes?", "I hope you’re joking.", "Good. That’s comedy.", "Way too much. \n\nJust pop over to /r/ireland for your daily dose of, \"Hi guys I love your country (though i've never been). I'm Irish though and was wondering if you can tell me about this small town that my great grand-uncle hailed* from\"\n\nJust be American, guys. It's time.", "Hmmm… I can’t remember… did Cheers go for too long? Night Court? Square Pegs definitely didn’t — only got one season. Scrubs? Yeah. Probably three seasons too many.\n\nI just realized that I haven’t really watched TV consistently since the early 2Ks…", "Yeah, but the Irish and Italians weren't \"white\" until much later.", "What's your definition then?", "That's the point, \"African-American\" is the term for the decendants of enslaved Africans.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African\\_Americans", "Most ironically racist country in the world.", "I tell my family that they're pronouncing it in LongIslandese, not Italian.", "So like every streaming service?", "Modern Family is mostly episodic so you can pretty much stop whenever. But I feel like people are exaggerating how bad it gets. I watched until the end and didn't mind it.", "\"Real Italians say 'gravy'!\" \n\"No, real Italians say 'sauce'!\"\n\nNo, real Italians don't say either of those because neither is an Italian word.", "As a huge fan of Manchester United let me take a deep breath in and screm FUCK PEACOCK!", "less relevant means it is not a human desire -- it's cultural -- some cultures are not obsessed with heritage -- and that has nothing to do with whether it is \"obvious\"", "6 day old account and you're already a hyer-cynical redditor. They grow up so fast,", "Am a Brit who has recently moved to Canada. Oh my god the amount of profiles I see on Tinder/Bumble/Hinge that say something like 'I bet you cant guess what race I am' or like 'I bet you cant guess my ancestry'. So fucking weird. Why would I, you or anyone else give a shit? \n\nAlso it usually turns out to be like 15% Irish, 45% German, 86% French, 100% Bullshit. Give a fuck mate, you likely have some relatives from various European countries, well done?", "No I think you'll find we honestly dont give a shit", "The top Youtube comment is the title", "I'll take anything over the relentless TikTok spam at this point. It's nice to see another platform that I have no interest in joining", "Link is broken (edit: maybe just on mobile?), gotta remove the “\\”\n\nAnd did you read it? Literally says that’s generally the case but can also be the term for descendants of immigrants from Africa. Which makes sense from a practical vocabulary perspective", "I wanted to like this show but I just couldn't stand eric stonestreet. He puts on a clear gay speech affect and flamboyant mannerisms that basically embody the gay stereotype from the straight person's point of view. On top of that it's just not a very believable couple. Jessie Tyler Ferguson is way out of his league, and I honestly can't see his character dating an old queen. If Eric just played a character that was a bit closer to himself IRL it would have made it much more believable.", "Im not black but most black people I know want to be called black. Some of my friends actually really dislike being called African American.", "Pretty funny not going to lie.", "Kyrie Irving considers himself woke, he follows Farrakhan, believes the earth is flat, and is against the vaccine. \n\nThat's what I consider woke culture and why I consider it bad.", "This is pretty unfunny!", "I mean, its weird in the sense that Italian Americans aren't really Italian. But they do have a distinct and noticeably subculture and are prone to a bit of reigionalism (IE a lot of them are in New Jersey). \n\nIts just kinda how... it works in countries with huge immigrant populations. IDK.", "who is \"we\"?", "Not really. If we are talking about environmental impact of paper bags, hemp paper bags would be superior to tree product ones. \n\n\nHemp yields three to four times more usable fibre per hectare per annum than forests, and hemp doesn't need pesticides or herbicides.\n\n\nHemp has a much faster crop yield. It takes about 3-4 months for hemp stalks to reach maturity, while trees can take between 20 to 80 years. Not only does hemp grow at a faster rate, but it also contains a high level of cellulose. This quick return means that paper can be produced at a faster rate if hemp were used in place of wood.\n\n\nHemp paper does not require the use of toxic bleaching or as many chemicals as wood pulp because it can be whitened with hydrogen peroxide. This means using hemp instead of wood for paper would provide significant environmental benefits by ending the creation of chlorine or dioxin runoff.\n\n\nHemp paper can be recycled up to 8 times, compared to just 3 times for paper made from wood pulp.\n\n\nCompared to its wood pulp counterpart, paper from hemp fibers resists decomposition and does not yellow or brown with age. It is also one of the strongest natural fibers in the world - one of the reasons for its longevity and durability.\n\n\nSeveral factors favor the increased use of wood substitutes for paper, especially agricultural fibers such as hemp. Deforestation, particularly the destruction of old growth forests, and the world’s decreasing supply of wild timber resources are today major ecological concerns. Hemp's use as a wood substitute will contribute to preserving biodiversity.", "Can someone recommend me a good comedy show? So far I liked The office, Parc & rec, modern family and arrested development.", "In the show she is adopted. In real life she is actually half Korean and half white but I guess for Hollywood thats close enough.", "less relevant because if you're preoccupied with survival on the daily basis you don't have time to think about your ancestry (Maslow's pyramid of needs and all that).", "People", "Wouldn’t exactly call black nationalism and woke culture the same thing. Feels like people just like to use woke as a bogeyman for shit they don’t like.", "k", "As someone who was a minority in multiple countries who now lives in the US (edited for weird nitpicking), that’s definitely not true lol\n\nJust turns out most countries are too homogenous for this to even come up as an issue that needs to be fixed. I definitely don’t think I’d be treated better anywhere besides where I’m from (where’d I’d be in the majority group) or a few (not all) European countries, and I have had pretty bad experiences elsewhere.\n\nAlso depends on the state since the US is huge. I’m sure some Bible Belt areas are worse than most of Europe, etc", "I think you got the gist of it, I'd say with black people there's some extra nuance that they don't have as clean of documented connections to their past (and those cultures are less represented in American culture), so they are likely discovering parts of their history they were totally unexposed to or aware of. Also agree, has never felt like a problem here.", "> As a minority in the US\n\nThe fact that you typed this and think it's a normal thing to say proves my point.", "Fun fact...the waitress is Lilly's mom IRL", "It’s directly relevant? Idk how that proves the US is more racist than most countries? I’ve been a minority in other countries and it was worse is my point", "Who are they copying though?", "Community, Superstore, Brooklyn 99, Psych, Chuck, Eureka.", "You're actually not required. If you look down a few lines you'll actually see \"prefer not to answer\" is always an option. And those questions are actually very important for providing data regarding racial statistics, and are also helpful for uncovering racial bias", "She wasn't. \nHer gay white dads gave birth to a Vietnamese girl.", "Actually got a good chuckle out of that than the actual scene.", "I'm basically the next Mel Brooks", "That's kind of standard for TV sitcoms though. Once you notice the pattern, it's all you ever see. But once in awhile you'll get a show like Seinfeld or The Office that sort of breaks free from that mold.", "Watched community. Loved it. Didn’t like Superstore that much, it was missing something, they were trying too hard.", "Link seems to work fine here?\n\nAlso, it says \"some Black immigrants or their children may also come to identify as African-American\". Which means that a lot of them do not identify with 'African-American 'Black' in that aspect, is a more inclusive term, I'd say.", "I mean humans like to group themselves regardless of the media.\n\nHumans organize the world into pieces to synthesize it and make it easier to understand and to be able to make decisions about preexisting information they have instead of addressing every interaction or decision as a brand new data point.\n\nIt’s part of higher order thinking to be able to group like things together and make decisions based on that information.\n\nIt becomes a problem when people group together the wrong information or make their groups based on faulty or incomplete information, or use the groupings to try to oppress other people.", "Same, can't stand Eric Stonestreet.", "Why not both?", "Consistently OK", "Superstore is definitely a step down from The Office and Parks, but I still had fun.\n\nB99 is great though. If you haven't seen it, I'd start there.\n\nIf you like silly crime/mystery shows, Psych is one of my favorites. Chuck is similar feel to Psych, but secret agents.\n\nEureka is also a pretty fun show. Takes place in basically an area 51 esk town where inventions cause mysteries that need to be solved.", "I think I might know why...", "Sure, but it was used in an anecdote about a woman who went to an African country loudly claiming she’s an American and wanting to get back to her roots which I think makes it quite reasonable to use the term African American instead of Black. \n\nIn general though, I’d agree I would say black first when referring to anyone in the US", "Except Seinfeld, which is why it's the GOAT", "Agreed. I'm on S9 and still laugh every episode.", "Safe argument", "(⌐■_■)\n\n( •_•)>⌐■-■\n\n(•_•)", "You should watch Futureman.", "Thanks. I’ll start watching B99. What about IASIP? I heard it’s really good.", "That was well put. Wait, am I agreeing with and complimenting a Buckeye?? Ewww", "Because neither of my parents are Scottish", "don't forget to put them in the case, they might get scratched", "As I was reading your first two sentences, I was thinking, \"I guess, but when I watch like Seinfeld it's not like that, and that's 15 years before.\" And then I read the rest of your post and, well, there ya go, haha.", "Really good! Just different from the rest of the shows you listed. There's a reason it's going strong at 15 seasons.\n\nOne I've watched this year was Ted Lasso. Fantastic show.", "Australians don't seem to give a shit..", "ok, i must watch Modern Family, that scene was hilarious, please tell me the rest of the series goes a similar way", "Same, I can't stand her.", ">You seem like an angry bitter person.\n\nPot callin' the kettle, it seems.", "I've never seen a full episode of this show, because every clip was always hot garbage. Just completely inane. It looked like a less funny (somehow) version of Everybody Loves Raymond.\n\nWho actually watched this shit?", "I am a Korean-American adoptee, did 23andMe, and got back 60% Korean 30% Japanese. It was confusing to say the least. Didn't know if it was a \"comfort women\" sort of issue or something imperial or darker... 23andMe must have either simplified/strengthened their racial analysis because a couple years later it says I'm 100% Korean.", "Also check out New Girl. Don't be thrown by the title, it's hilarious.", "best scene on tv ever.", "Still don't think it's fair to say she grew up to be a bad actor though. She still has a lot of growing up to do and could improve a lot in that time. Saying she grew up to be makes it sound like she is at the end state of her acting abilities.", "Fear not, for I am an Oklahoma State fan!", "By \"Almost certainly a paid account.\" they mean the account itself was likely purchased.", "A single post can generating surprising amounts of ad revenue, and is often just part of a portfolio. 2021, everyone. They've been doing it for a decade and we're just catching on xD.", "It started great. You won't regret watching the first few seasons. Basically just feel free to bail on it whenever it starts becoming dull to you though. It'll become apparent enough!", "Ted lasso was a blast.. the writing was really good. If you’re a fan of Ricky Gervais, watch extras.. best show ever..", "Schitts Creek", "I enjoyed the whole series honestly. there were clever jokes in most if not all episodes", "Cut the ~~cord~~ subscription plan", "I'll give it a shot! My wife and I are in the middle of watching Kim's Convenience. I'll suggest it after that!", " If you follow Farrakhan or Trump you're a piece of shit. If we can't agree on that then let me know so I can block your racist ass", "Nice", "Lotsa normal Japanese folks lived in Korea before the imperialism.\n\nYou could have a grandparent that is/was ethnically Japanese, but they could've easily been born and raised Korean.\n\nThe countries are really close. There's been a lot more swapping of the genes throughout history than either side readily admits", "I feel bad for the actress. Imagine being forced into acting at a very young age and then once you're old enough to go online, you realize everyone dislikes your acting. That's got to do some bad things to a young teenage mind.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk__EJoInGA", "> I don’t think it’s a problem.\n\nIt is when you drink a lot and blame it on your \"Irish\" blood. \n\nKnowing where your family comes from through the use of very inaccurate tests is fine and all and I can fully understand why people would do it, but the amount of times it becomes a shitfest into claiming who's more Irish, why they love cheese because they're French, or whatever the fuck else is quite frankly insulting.", "Jeez some of you guys in this comment section need to lighten up", "That's because if you just say you identify as a white American you're labeled as a xenophobic racist.", "Nah, this amateur hour - who here has seen Jake Gylenlylhalyl’s BEST movie; Bubble Boy\n\nJews, Hindus, Fundy Christians, Cultists, circus performers, old people… basically mocks everyone EXCEPT those who are immune compromised(which was ironically cally why it was boycotted before release when it really should have been boycotted by… everyone who could be offended)", "Is there a reason steady cams and tripods are no longer used in TV production? I'd get sea sick watching this garbage.", "Yeah I watched it all and it was really fine until the end. \n\nOf course if you watch 10 seasons of something, you will think the later seasons are not as good or not as fresh. But objectively in vacuum I think Modern Family kept their standard pretty much, there is no strong decline.", "The Good Place, I bounced off it initially but I’m really glad I gave it another go.", "The mods there are awful.", "I love this show!!!", "I think you took his comment way out of context. He was basically saying that people above all need to be kind to each other, regardless of identity. You don’t have a sound argument here.", "trying to hard what?", "Reading comprehension level: 0", "There was a point where I realized I wasn’t really being entertained by it anymore because it had transitioned to “Rich people problems”.", "i love this show, so funny and have gay characyers", "As someone who has watched most of those shows you listed, give Father Ted a try. It's a show about three catholic priests that have been more-or-less exiled to live on a small island in Ireland.", "that is a fun fact", "It's only offensive to people who can't recognize satire even when it bites them in the ass...", "She's bad? How do y'all rate child actors?", "I think it depends partially on the relevant year? Like my ancestors 100 years ago were from Italy, but 500 years ago they might have been somewhere else, and 5000 years ago somewhere else, and 60,000 years ago they were from Africa.", "The way I see it is America has a different concept of ethnicity than other Western countries. It's almost entirely derived from ancestry and has nothing to do with one's actual culture. Also for some reason there is no American ethnicity in America. We also have a fierce American identity, but that's nationalism which is orthogonal.\n\nBasically, what you're seeing is how American's understand ethnicity. It's internally consistent, but as with anything, can seem quite strange when viewed endocentrically.", "It is on disney+, at least in Canada. It was on Netflix. I assume it isn't now, since it's on that slow and shit disney+ now.", "Unless their background is English. Seemingly no-one identifies as English American.", "this show was so brilliant; i wish there was a sequel", "All in the spirit of being as upsetting as possible", "I find it’s like the office, TV when on a plane.", "🐹", "Trees killed my parents; I can only hope to take as many with me as my father before me.", "Yea, about that, here in the states you are known as a \"White South African\" \n\n\nEdit: We do this shit to everyone.", "oh Lily", "I saw the whole thing. Ty Burrell was the only thing that kept me going, he stayed funny through the whole thing. But yeah, after around season 4/5ish, the rest of the show began a slow descent into crap all the way into season 11.\n\nThe more the show focused on the kids' personal lives as they became adults, the less I cared. None of them were interesting.", "20th Century Fox Television produced show, ABC network aired. After that the airing (generally) the rights come back to 20th and as the owner, they then can sell it to the next place. So peacock mostly likely picked it up in the name of getting more content.", "Sarcasm tags are shit too, America’s worst invention.", "Me (2 years ago): Coportations have thousands of accounts on reddit and are promoting their material and ideologies via reddit.\n\nReddit: You're fuckin' bonkers man.\n\ntoday: this post.\n\nCorporations, governments, and even special interest groups all have thousands of accounts that they use to upvote their own messages and materials. Reddit isn't the place that you think it is.", "I've always thought it was kinda cool? Biased, I'm American, but the whole idea is that you can come from anywhere and be an American. Obviously we don't always live up to that ideal but it's still pretty sweet to have.\n\nThe US isn't the only place with this very open and inclusive civic nationalism, but it's quite rare.", "That's what amazes me so much about the ancestry.com-like services. I could not care less about finding out where all my ancestors came from, but people like my sister are obsessed with it.\n\nShe sent her damn dna out in the mail and paid money just so they could tell us that we're fuckin' white people from europe. Whoop de doo.", "Well it's not a problem, just an interesting trait. \n\nPeople do like to have historical and cultural backgrounds but America has a pretty fascinating founding story, a civil war, the story of its expansion as it headed west and its rise to a global superpower. \n\nIn Britain, few people know how far their ancestors' history goes back and the story of Europe is so intertwined that it gets difficult. I would guess if you were to ask most Brits what about their history they're proud of it'll be modern achievements that are listed. \n\nWhat I find interesting in America is that these identities are powerful even when it doesn't really differ from the mainstream culture. In Britain, there are also people who identify as British and something else strongly but typically that 'something else' is a strong association with a different culture and community that is actively practised. \n\nIt's quite interesting. That's before we get into the Irish in England e.t.c", "Eh?\n\nWhat is being marketed here?", "Many Americans also take on these identities with relatively little ancestry from those countries. I was raised Catholic so I had a lot of Irish and Italian friends growing up. A few of them researched their ancestry only to find they're more English than Italian by a large margin.", "Yeah it got less good but it isn't like it pulled a Dexter or a Game of Thrones and went from amazing to bad.", "Well everyone wants you to care if you aren't white, if you're white then you're racist af. /s", "It gets gradually staler overall as a show but there definitely is no point where you feel like it's a drastic dropoff. You just kinda start to know exactly what gags you'll get from each character and so the novelty could wear off but yeah, agree that people are exaggerating a bit.", "I can repost the top YouTube comment too!", "It's not about where you're from, it's about the fun you have researching it along the way!", "You say that but I’m sitting here with 99.9% in one bucket on 23andMe", "It’s cool to know where you came from, but it seems for a lot of people that overshadows who they are now in the present. Based on what I read online there are still people in the US whose parents and grandparents were born and raised in the US but they still connect more with their distant ancestry than that present identity.", "Who cares?", "Irish immigrant co worker thought it was silly that people born in Canada called themselves Irish or Irish Canadian. \n“They’re not Irish, I’M Irish” he’d say..", "Yes but it's the heavy focus on the 'other' nationality even several generations down that's a bit weird to an outsider.\n\nYou can come from anywhere and be British too but after 1 or 2 generations the 'other' gets less meaningful. It really depends on how much that culture persits in the family i guess.", "This is one of the strangest things I encountered when I relocated to the US for about 4 years. In my 32 years living in Canada, I was never asked where my ancestry was from. But within a couple months in the US, I was asked multiple times where I was from and when I answered Canada thinking is was because of my East Coast Canadian accent, they would ask “No, I mean your ancestry. Like are you Irish, Italian, Polish, etc.”. I’d never been asked that before.", "It's a great show when it isn't following it's typical playbook. \n\nIt feels like more than half the episodes boil down to characters misinterpreting or misunderstanding or just not hearing what the other said. Then the episode playing out their assumptions in the most extreme way possible, spilling over into other characters and situations. When in reality if they just clarified the episode would resolve itself in that scene.\n\nIt's an annoying thing that I just couldn't let myself get over.", "This Is Us on NBC is also an ABC Studios production. \n\nI think the networks do this all the time. Develop a show that they realize might not be right for their specific demos, so they shop it to the other networks. The money is still green no matter how you look at it.", "Like that little Anakin Skywalker actor.", "rn it has 300 dislikes", "People also, you know, traveled. Whether by choice/circumstance/slavery. Yes, even you white people, have likely had some ancestors who were enslaved. Rome's slave population was huge, and many of them went on to be citizens, and they were all still making babies.", "agreed- however they really messed up by >!not having haley end up with Andy.!<", "I made it about 1 minute in this steaming pile of garbage. what do i win? The only thing offensive about this is they thought this was a good scene.", "I have sort of perceived it as a romantic thing, to be honest. It's why Scottish-Americans or Irish-Americans seems to be more of a thing than 'English-American'. There will be a lot of Americans whose families came to America from England but it's less romantic than the Celtic nations. \n\nAlthough Irish immigration to America is a bit different because it involved a lot of people on a concentrated time period who often lived in a community of similar immigrants on arrival. Hence why that community is strongly associated with places like Boston.", "67 comment karma after seven years they ain't gonna answer you", "I think it can be a problem when people are willing to let that connection of their distant ancestry become greater than that of their current countrymen/neighbors. My great grandparents came to the US from Ireland. I never knew them and those with the most influence in my life were born and raised in the US. It’s cool to know where my distant family came from, but I don’t connect with the Irish at all as someone born and raised in America", "Who the fuck reads YouTube comments? I appreciate the cross post, personally.", "The Thick of It and Veep is you fancy some policital comedies.", "Possibly, yes, but I enjoyed it and probably would enjoy the show. Everyone wins? \njust to be clear I've never seen an episode of this show.", "Modern family is hilarious", "(•_•)\n\n( •_•)>⌐O-O\n\n(⌐O_O)", "Now that the dislikes are gone, i read the comments before watching yt videos.", "Man\n\nEdit: Reddit says my account was made in 2018 but I have posts from 9 years ago lol", "I thought Hailey was good... Though I think her character was supposed to be 15 in the first episode and the actress might have already been an adult.", "Much better", "This is counterproductive and helps no one except your own ego as you get to flex “akshually…”. If you’re trying to ELI5 to a general crowd then you generalize it to match your audience.", "I mean... r/movies seems like a pretty good place to post trailers, no? Whether it's posted by a marketing intern or a genuine user doesn't really matter.", "Yes I know\n\nBut as a mexican in the United States you kinda get pre programed to hear it the other way", "That was me but with season 2. I really liked season 1 and then complete forgot about it until i saw this post", "I can't find anything else she's been in??", "No, they already did the episode where they're all high.", "True, hemp is great for paper. Fast and easy growing, small physical area used.", "Same for me, with the additional factor of it being one of the only sitcoms i've watched where I have zero interest in reruns when they come on tv, even for background noise.", "Compared to other child actors in the same time period? lol.", "I kinda hope it's astroturfed. I don't want to believe that actual people thought this phoned in trash was worthy genuine praise.", "Posting trailers would be one thing, but posing as genuine users in the comments to create interest is a little manipulative.", "For her sake I hope she doesn't pursue it as a career.", "Those genetic results can vary wildly and are not very indicative of the immediate ancestry of a person. There was a black professor on PBS some years ago that did one and it came back that he was almost 50% White and 50% Black (I don't remember the specific ethnicities). The thing is the last White person in his family was a great grandmother.", "Doesn't exactly surprise me.", "Uh, TV.", "“PEACOCK!”\n - Tracy Morgan somewhere right now", "Every movie poster gets 10K upvotes. Its exceedingly blatant.", "Well I’m not having fun.", "Probably not on a high as much as being high", "They're just virtue signaling. These days, everyone is either a victim or an oppressor. No want wants to be an oppressor, so everyone acts like a victim.", "The Good Place was really entertaining and it didn't overstay its welcome and had a satisfying ending. Also it was written by Michael Schur, the same guy who wrote The Office and some of Parks and Rec.", "There really also comes a point in time where it becomes irrelevant for general genealogical purposes. Does it really matter to anyone where their ancestors were from 500 years ago?\n\nSo many people back then are the ancestors of so many of us now that it's just not that important to the regular person.", "It is quite good.", "The YouTube algorithm loves them too. After any news video it cues up Seth Meyers even if it is months old and completely irrelevant. That or else a John Oliver I've already seen a dozen times from years ago.", "Modern Japanese population actually traces its origins to Korea, so overlapping genetic markers is not entirely unexpected.", "I've heard some very credible stories about recent Reddit astroturfing campaigns for major movies, and I've seen some of them first hand but on a smaller scale. Even though I haven't seen any evidence I'm also entirely certain that the Fast & Furious studio pushed hard with shitty memes ahead of the last movie.", "I think it's a meme take on the Rick and Morty intelligence copypasta", "Well, do you think Germans have to fight to survive daily? There are a lot of people I know that have distant relatives from Afghanistan, Turkey, Russia etc. but do not make it their identity being of said ancestry and \"blood\" when they behave in a certain way. Either you have connections to your relatives' culture through language, traditions, contact to family living abroad etc. or you don't. Just being of some ancestry is not enough to be one of those people.", "Besides, if you're trying to find roots, a hot air balloon isn't the best way to get there.", "I'll add on New Girl, The Good Place, Angie Tribeca, and Malcolm in the Middle.", "(-_-)\n\n( -_-)>,-o-o\n\n(,-0_0)", "where do i sign up if they do?", "lol then why did you redundantly describe her african ancestry. You could have said she was \"black american with african ancestry\" \n\nInstead you called her \"African american american with african ancestry\" ???? Idk if thats 'exactly the correct context'", "Wrong link. Right link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans\n\nLiterally first line of the article:\n\n> African Americans (also referred to as Black Americans and formerly, Afro-Americans) are an ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa", "It's worth noting that those DNA tests can't really pin down ethnicity that precisely. Neighboring ethnic groups obviously have significant genetic overlap due to centuries of mixing which makes it impossible to completely separate them from genes alone, so those tests are only making a best guess.", "Going back and watching earlier clips of this show reminds me of what I loved about it. I really feel like it lost that special something in the last few seasons and ended on a bit of a whimper.", "Read one sentence more", "They are pronouncing it with an Americanized version of a Southern Italian or Sicilian dialect, which differ significantly from the standard Italian (which is based on the Florentine dialect).", "In general, I'd agree. But places like r/movies or r/gadgets are going to basically be ads no matter how organic the posting is. If I'm subbed to r/movies, it's because I want to see news and info about upcoming movies. That's going to be in the form of trailers, posters, and casting announcements, which is going to feel like an ad regardless of who is posting it.", "I'm not even a heavy user of r/movies but it's kind of funny seeing it pop up on my feed like clockwork.\n\nMonday - First image from [director]'s new film, [movie]\n\nWednesday - Official poster for [movie]\n\nFriday - Official trailer for [movie]", "TED LASSO", "30 rock is the shit", "Maybe it's like a yggdrasil situation?", "At most this makes me want to watch youtube compilations of it lol.", "No.", "/u/hoyhoyy29 tell your minder to next time use the clip with cam and mitchell doing the \"shout\" routine back and forth in their cars\n\nfunniest joke in the whole show imo\n\ntag me when its up kthxbai", "What We Do In the Shadows. Its incredible.", "I didn't think this could be true at all, but you're right. \n\nModern Family premiered in 2009 and she was born in 1990, making her 19 when the show began. She looks sooo much younger in that first season.", "https://c.tenor.com/E20uu6HgaAQAAAAd/nicholas-cage-funny.gif", "Read another sentence more again.\n\n> while some Black immigrants or their children may also come to identify as African-American.\n\nI am right. You are wrong. k?", "I feel like reading the comments just adds to the confusion of removing dislikes, but maybe that's just me.", ">It is when you drink a lot and blame it on your \"Irish\" blood.\n\nOr when you're sending money to fuel a bloody conflict thousands of miles away.", "Welcome to the internet", "Party Down", "That must have really painful to give her up for adoption.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uW47jWLMiY&t=1s", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s", "Veep is phenomenal!", ">I'm just thinking: who thef cares where you come from, what color you are, how old, what your sexual preference is, I don't give a shit. If you're a nice person you're a nice person, if you're an asshole you're an asshole. Doesn't matter where you come from or what you identify as.\n\nEh, to say it \"doesn't matter\" doesn't seem right either. It definitely does. And getting to know and showing interest in someone will have to get into some of that.\n\nI do agree that it's strange when call out \"I'm German!\" (for example) 2 minutes into the conversation while having never set foot in Germany, not speaking a lick of German, and can't name one German city beyond Berlin.", "What we do in the Shadows \n30 Rock \nNorsemen", "It's like with most sitcoms. I kept watching and suddenly realized I hate almost every single person in it.", ">Are they acting well enough to be a believable, relatable, natural character, or do they sound like they’re reading a script in a dry, annoyed voice?\n\nI’m going with B.", "Same here! It’s too bad that I believe all humans should be treated fairly and equally. Because certain groups would love me.", "It’s a bit backwards from your explanation, that they’ll lean on being white, ultimately. His thing always has seemed to be black vs white and how white folks are pure oppressors, and he’s not wrong.", "The Good Place was fantastic, and I loved all of the shows you just mentioned", "It's one of those issues that I think matters more to second generation immigrants, where you have your foot in two cultures, you've felt moments where you don't belong in either, and you've had people make fun of your culture before. \n\nFrom that POV I can see why \"cultural appropriation\" can feel rather insulting: you spend your life making an effort to find your identity between two cultures, and someone else without a background in it comes along, picks it up, and drops it.\n\nIt's why I think videos of people in e.g. China saying they don't care about Chinese cultural appropriation kind of miss the point.", "Almost all shows are \"rich people problems.\" Malcom In The Middle was the last excellent show to depict a working class family.", "Nathan for you, review, big time in Hollywood Fl", "Are you trying to explain why my cousin doesn't get along with his brother's wife? And why the kids don't look like any of them?", "It's Chicago style pizza.", "Yeah but his acting was pretty coarse and rough", "Yes, that is the same sentence, with the key word being\n\n>some \n\nAlso, all I did is explain why the poster some posts above talked about slavery. You didn't understand why. I told you why.", "Brooklyn Nine-Nine", "My dad once told me about a brand new and expensive set of snap on tools complete with big fucking drawer stack that they got at the mill. One day the rack was left outside. The next day every stainless steel tool rusted out in their drawers. He was the lead mechanic and helped build that place. They loved him, and when he died, they didn't got to court, they didn't question it. They told my mom, \"we know we should've made him take vacation and not take so many hours. we know this was our fault and are changing our work policies around it. what do you want from us to make this right?\" She only asked that they cover what the insurance didn't. There were 9 of us kids, so you can guess why he worked the hours that he did and kept selling his vacation.", "Season 1 had something, then it immediately became standard boring sitcom stuff", "See, that's how they offended you! They offended every group by either mentioning them... or by not mentioning them!", "I enjoyed my time with that show and would say it's definitely worth a watch. However I unfortunately didn't find it to be on the same level as the other shows mentioned and I think it lacks their rewatchability. (Different format though, being more focused on the overall story than on individual episode stories, so not too surprising.)", "I've got no problem in killing trees. I just don't want to see any paper, lol.", "Kim’s Convenience is really good", "Very likely", "Well fucking said!!! Bravo!\n\nTo me, thats what woke culture is, (i view it negatively), and it has permeated …preeeetty much every network sitcom on tv rendering them unwatchable. Its like that cringy girlpower scene in Endgame, but on every show on Tv. I can roll my eyes only so much.", "Dunno how I managed to miss this scene. Lol", "What is the job title of someone who shills like this on reddit? Obviously, they don't do it for free.\n\nProfessional Shit-poster? Corporate Media Shill? I just want to know because clearly I need to start looking into this as a career. I look forward to the future where we aren't sure who is real online and who we can trust in our communities.", "Have you only seen those two shows?", "Yeah I use the addon too. We are among a little percent of people that use it.", "That's a very fair assessment. I have no desire to watch it again but that first watch was really good and I loved that the show had a very specific arc and ended when it was supposed to and didn't get milked. I'll always prefer a show end when it needs to even when I adore the show and inherently want more.", "It’s almost like nobody would think any less of themselves if they came from another background. They wouldn’t be any more or less important.", ">Didn't know if it was a \"comfort women\" sort of issue or something imperial or darker... \n\nDude, I know how you feel. I'm Filipino but my grandpa looks hella Japanese. Dad says his grandparents were Filipino but I have this crackpot theory that my grandpa's biological father might be Japanese.", "Brit here. I travelled the US. So many people identify as, like, Norwegian because of something from four generations back and it's just the most ridiculous thing to hear in a thick MN accent.", "Hey, speak for yourself!", "Looks like your whole lineage missed out big time. It's your duty to make up for generations of lost sex", "Ok or... And here me out now, users on /r/movies like to follow movies.", "It drove me insane that more than half the episodes were the result of some ridiculously simple miscommunication or verbal misunderstanding. Had the characters taken, literally, 10 seconds to talk — or, hell, even fire off a quick text — over 50% of the plots would fail.", "It is indeed", "This is the opposite of offensive.", "Jake Lloyd, and yeah he was definitely shit on way too much. He definitely doesn't get talked about much either. People are cool with Hayden now, but Jake got ignored.", "Was 1000% expecting hell in cell copypasta, thanks for the tree facts", "dude what the fuck he could also draw cool hentai. racist.", "Oddly enough in Europe it's both on D+ and Netflix (at least in Ireland).", "I can't imagine how they're going to wrap up that show.", "cackled! thanks.", "To be fair..\n\nIf your massive weight causes the hot air balloon to drop out of the sky..you’ll be reconnected with your roots almost immediately.", "I love 30 rock so much, I wanna take it behind a middle school and get it pregnant!", "This sums up my opinion exactly. Started well, enjoyed it, then eventually forgot it was a thing", "When I mouseover your name it says the account is 10 years old, created 03/19/2012.\n\nReddit can't count.", "On a long enough timeline, everyone's ancestry is the same.", "> (•_•)\n> \n> ( x‎‎ _‎x)> • •\n> \n> (x_x)", "Same. I've always said it's fake. At this point, she's stressing to keep it, you can hear how unnecessarily harsh she is with certain words.", "Most sitcoms do when they drag on too long. How I met your mother for example.", "when reddit stops being 50% ads and becomes 99.9% ads, you'll care.", "Their calculation definitely changes over time -- I've seen my results swing between 40-50% in one category.", "I stopped watching when they were no longer the approachable, everyday families, but rather going on yachts and cruises and private cabin estates, etc. They became super wealthy and stopped being all that relatable to me.", " my favorite character of this new season by far", "It doesn't get bad at all, just stale. After a certain point there is not much more character development left. Everybody has grown and learned so it's hard to tell stories revolving around that. So now it's just about new situations which makes it a bit more boring. In the beginning it was fun to watch because it was different and selfaware. I laughed a lot in the early seasons but when I got to season 8 I barely smirked not because it wasn't funny or because it was bad, but because I kinda see it coming.", "I enjoy the show well enough, it's on my rotation of having on in the background while I'm gaming or working, so I've \"watched\" through it a handful of times.\n\nAnd you're right, it's incredibly episodic. There's barely a red line in the show, besides a bit of relationshippy stuff.", "My Name is Earl slots in there nicely, although it wasn't really a \"family.\"", "Oh she’s the worst!", "yeah the boy and Lily were fine when they started but the boy could not act at all when he got older.", "Slow and shit? Works fine for me and has the second best streaming quality after Apple.", "Exactly, my godfather thought he was 100% Irish. Turns out his grandmother boned the neighbor while grandfather was in jail. \n\nTurns out he's 1/4 English. And not just any English. He's descendants #39 \"Greatest Briton\" of all time John Harrison, the inventor of the marine hronometer which allowed the Royal Navy to dominate the planet.\n\nThe only way he could be even more in conflict with the two parts of his heritage would be if it was Oliver Cromwell or someone.", "Pretty sure it’s on Hulu and Disney in the US.", "this show is so cringeworthy. Such a cringefest. I hate it.", "I think we all can guess what happened.\n\nExpedition to foreign land, ancestor got lost and hurt. Chad sexy lady revived him and sensually nursed him back to health", "I'm curious as to what makes you say that. Like what exactly is bad about her acting? Never really paid much attention to it until your comment.\n\nAlso calling a 14 year olds acting immensly bad might be a bit harsh, don't you think? After all she's just a kid.", "Have a look around", "safest bet is they do a special episode where the consequences of all 15 seasons (or more) finally come back to bite them in the ass", "It's a 7-year old account, and up to almost 9000k after this post : D", ">Yes, even you white people, have likely had some ancestors who were enslaved\n\nYou say it like it should be some shocking revelation.\n\nI literally recently moved away from am area called \"slave city\". That's in Norway. We mainly got our slaves from the British isles.", "So you’re saying there’s a chance Modern Family crashes into the Marvel universe?", "It felt like the writers hated >!Haley!< honestly. Most disappointing arc in the show.", "Oh, I read Finding Longitude. Excellent book!", "She was probably 18 when they started filming, but you're right, she does look young. Hollywood likes adult actresses that look young though. They can play a teenager but they aren't under all the child protection laws that can cost time and resources.", "It doesn’t get really bad/mediocre until the last season.", "Well many of us also don't have to go back far to more \"pure\" ancestors. My grandma was bilingual, her parents didn't speak much English and conversed in Polish at home, and great great grandparents didn't speak English at all. Also the community I grew up in was built but these people so it's very much surrounded by Polish food and tradition. \"A few generations\" is still growing up with people who were raised/influenced by people from the original country.", "I wonder if it's associated with families wanting to distance themselves from England as a result of the revolutionary war, or perhaps a reaction to the discrimination Irish immigrants faced when first coming over.", "OP is definitely 100% not a karma bot.", "Anything that brain of yours can think of can be found!", "The training with Cheryl, where she is practicing in the background was hysterical!", "But he could be Wong.", "It's just people who have nothing better to do than try to earn useless reddit points it doesn't do anything", "Still don't think its too harsh to say so, comparably.\n\nShe delivers every line entirely soul-lessly, roboticly, like she's reading directly from the script, if the script was the most boring instruction manual of all time.\n\nBut I don't blame her. She was so young when was casted for the role that she did fairly well for her age back then - like she was probably much better at actually delivering any kind of lines compared to kids her age, when she first appeared in the show. \n\nTrouble is she didn't learn anything and didn't evolve in any way in all her years appearing. In fact she got worse - She clearly wasn't passionate about it. Also not her fault.", "\"Astroturfing\" has been around far, far longer than Reddit. It has been around since before Astroturf in fact. This is just a refinement with the current technology.", "I’d expect low effort content like posters to dominate a movie sub that allows them.", "If you're thinking about Scrubs Spinoff also considered the ninth season, maybe that one was too much. Most fans agree though, that it really doesn't count. In any case those eight seasons were absolutely fine. The last season especially was fire. Yes some episodes are fillers but that counts for so many shows. There sure are worse examples of shows going on too long. House of Cards being just one example.", "New Girl is in the same vein as the shows you listed and an excellent show. It definitely hits its stride in season 2. It also has my favorite sitcom character of all time, Schmidt.", "Fraiser", "If you hadn't said anything, I wouldn't have even noticed. :D", "That's kinda sad. Personally I think it was one of the last great sitcoms. Even if this post was made to advertise the show, I loved rewatching the clip, reminded me of how hilarious it was. Give it a shot, if you liked this clip you'll love the rest of the show, I think!", "It's on Disney+ in Canada I think.", "Honestly, at its peak Modern Family was the best written show on TV. The comedy in seasons 1-4 is pitch perfect.", "Take my upvote and get the Phò out.", "For anyone who feels this way, I recommend giving Bill Burr’s F is for Family a try.", "Being offended is a choice, often chose by people it’s not targeted at. This wasn’t offensive to anyone", "No add-ons here and I can see downvotes and downvote it.", "She had some health issues that made filming for her difficult at times as she was undergoing medical procedures from time to time.", "Boo! For whatever reason, I could not stand that character. >!I was team Dylan the whole time, he’s like a golden retriever, dumb but so optimistic and happy. Plus he had some of my favorite lines, they’re so cleverly dumb!!<", "Its* gradual slide, no apostrophe", "One of the best Stewart Lee routines!", "What a ridiculous statement. Who would be interested in those things in a subreddit about movies?? It’s obviously all the evil corporations trying to advertise. Obviously no one actually cares about the new Spider-Man, it’s just Disney covertly advertising! /s", "She probably is tbh", "The show turned into a fucking joke and lilly has been a miserable little shit the whole time.", "this all hinges on the toilet seat falling down.", "I used to watch Modern Family weekly but slowly stopped. This is probably why.\n\nThey started pushing the insanely untalented child actors into every episode.\n\nThis girl and the fat kid were the worst.", "God I hate you. Take my upvote.", "what a weird way to pander to this Vietnamese person Lmao", "That wasn't funny\n\nI've never watched this show, but knew it had some acclaim.\n\nIf this is representative, then it is a way watered down Seinfeld scenario with transparent moralism.\n\nIt actually represents everything that I saw wrong with television during Trump. The overreaction to a boorish simpleton created the most boring art.", "It's the fact that they get 10s of thousands of votes and shoved to the frontpage within an hour or less, basically on perfect schedules, often by spam/bot users.", "Or peep show style and just show them continuing to be awful people with no real improvement.", "It's funny that even with all those Colombian friends, you can't spell Colombia correctly....", "Bob's burgers does a great job of it too.", "In Canada, Modern Family is on both Netflix and Disney+", "I thought \"The Middle\" was pretty excellent too. Not quite as good as Malcolm, but up there.", "I am not sure it's because of the revolutionary war as much as the colonial Empire that came after it. The British Empire, often perceived as the English Empire, is pretty brutal and people don't want to be associated with oppressors so much. \n\nAlso, Irish immigrants in America were a community themselves. If anything the link to that community is stronger than that to Ireland. As you said maybe it was a reaction to the discrimination that bounded that community close in a way that persisted and now people associate that with the Irish culture in Ireland instead which doesn't really make sense.", "I like mayor", "It just gets repetitive after a while. Watching it during it's TV run is one thing, cause it's paced out, but binging it on streaming services gets dull.", "I didn't like superstore at first, but I've grown to really enjoy it.", "It is a revelation for most white people.\n\nIt's been a long time since whites were in a stereotypical slave situation outside of modern US prisons, to my knowledge.", "One of my favourite scenes is when Cam is talking about college & schools and all his mates go to Brown University and he says \"I wish all those brown people would go back to Colombia\"", "You may hate Harry Potter then.", "[this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIMA2f6JmvE&ab_channel=rewboss) explains it better than I can", ">Wasn’t my choice to leave. I was too young then.\n\nNothing is stopping you from moving back. \n\n>\tYou seem like an angry bitter person.\n\nProject much?\n\n>Also unaware of either nuance and the fact that i can do more good from away.\n\nOnly nuance here is you're a hypocrite.", "Kinda like Emma Watson.", "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, you can thank me later", "Actually eating food on camera is very difficult because of consistency and how many takes you have to do. If you start paying attention people rarely ever actually interact with the food so it stays consistent between takes.", "Found the European.\n\nThe important thing is that you cant win, and someone will take issue with it no matter what you do. God forbid people take interest in their heritage, wouldn't want to upset some random redditor. \n\nIf you moved to a colony on mars, you wouldn't suddenly feel like you had lost your cultural identity.. you would pass down your cultural identity to your kids/grandkids.. why do you think its any different for Asian Americans (for example)? Why take issue with it?", "Okay but what sort of content do you expect to dominate that subreddit? The post ranking algorithm favors quick votes over slow votes so of course a Marvel poster is going to shoot up over the discussion posts people make or links that require reading an article or watching a video.", "You could just say premier league fan lol we al have it bad stateside with viewing", "As a second generation immigrant myself I DO know better. I am being ignorant? I mean, I am not dictatting people how to live their live. That's a decision they have to make. Pretty ignorant of you doing that. Good luck forcing your believes upon your children.", "Same with Koreans living in China. There's a big community of them from at least a few generations. \n\nSouth Korea has an official policy of accepting North Korean refugees as full S. Korean citizens. Most North Koreans get smuggled into China before going to Mongolia then finally South Korea. South Korea even has a specific DNA test to ensure the person was actually from North Korea, and not part of the Korean minority already in China.", "We get it. You're different cause you don't like this show. Happy for you", ">Not really. If we are talking about environmental impact of paper bags,\n\nExactly, IF you preface it that way then the context is provided to connect the two statements.", "Tried to rewatch that series recently and it does NOT hold up at all, mostly because of bad jokes/takes on social issues/prejudice. Earl's flawed karmic understanding is humorous but also detracts from whatever logic could be applied to the prevailing class structure.", "Not as bad as [the father that really immersed his adopted son in Chinese language and culture only to find out when the kid is 17 that his birth parents were Korean.](https://web.archive.org/web/20141029020706/reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/2km4et/tifu_by_making_a_stupid_assumption_about_my/)", "Same with dumb Disney/Marvel shit on there", "yeah well that's the german perspective on it, which is definitely not representative of other (even european) countries. they are a people whose national identity was demolished and is seen as something icky in the country itself by the mainstream. \n\nthe guy of course is right in that the germans in germany will look at german-americans strangely when they come to discover their roots. but that's again normal because they have a completely different perspective on the issue as people whose ancestors didn't emigrate a couple generations ago.\n\non the other hand the issue is similar with turks living in germany. a lot of them (self-)identify as \"Deutschtuerken\" (german turks).", "Yeah I could but I didn't want to.", "Well, you kinda are. And i honestly don't have to take shit from someone that doesn't even know their native tongue.\n\n\nSoo.. Adios el douchebag.", "that sentiment is pretty much shared all across continental Europe. it's not because the German national identity was \"demolished\" (it was not). it's because there is a difference between culture and heritage. you can have American culture even though you have an entirely different background than your neighbor. what matters is your culture not your genetic material\n\nEDIT: also the guy in the video is _not_ German btw", "You probably should look up the early history of those areas. They often formed because of racial discrimination. Immigrants naturally group together too (also often due to discrimination, but also other reasons).\n\nIt seems like a lot of them later evolved to become tourist destinations though, and not necessarily to the culture they were representing.", "That makes sense, I would guess part of it is that a substantial majority of Brits probably have ancestors living there several hundred (a thousand?) years ago, where in the US almost no one does.", "The Olympics sucked ass too", "Pea-COCK baby!", "Nah, there's legit offensive stuff out there. Then there's \"oh you couldn't make that these days\" offensive stuff like this that's only seems like it will be offensive to people who think everyone is too sensitive. Which isn't offensive.", "Sofia Vegara was the highest paid actress on tv, lots of Emmys too", "Cam was the mother ;)", "How do I stop?", "/r/LibraryofBabel", "Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Archer, Bojack Horseman", "I like shill-poster", "You don't seem to get it. All we say is that your children will decide on their own if they are old enough to do it. Wtf are you even on about? Teach them about your language and your culture. That's a cool thing. But they will still decide for themselves if they're Norwegian or not XD", "May I introduce you to serfdom\n\nAlso the word slave is derived from slav just as an interesting aside", "My name is earl, raising hope, 30 rock, the league, the middle", "Dylan was funny, but I don't think he did Haley any favors. She regressed in her character development when he was around.", "That’s literally the point I was making", ">If a white guy was visiting Norway to find information on ancestors, he would be a Norwegian American because the context is a an American with ancestral history in Norway. \n\nThe rest of the world would call him an American period. \n\n>The term \"African American\" in casual conversation describing all black people is ridiculous as there are many other Black countries around the world besides Africa. \n\nAfrica isn't a country bro...", ">like she is at the end state of her acting abilities. \n\nShe absolutely is. Luckily, she's gonna make enough off this one show to never have to work again. But if she does, I promise it will never be in front of the camera", "Nor will you ever", "I don't care if it is marketing I love this show and this scene lol.", "> The rest of the world would call him an American period. \n\nNot in the context of ancestral history as said multiple times.\n\n> Africa isn't a country bro...\n\nCountries. Read it again. It says countries.\n\nI find it easier in the long run to read a comment slower when you intend to retort or argue, that way you can be sure you're not making a fool of yourself.", "The show. Or did you really need that spelling out.", "That’s true! I feel like the others were more ambitious and successful, but Dylan seemed to connect with her on an emotional level? I’ll have to pay more attention to her character development the next time I watch the series and watch for a decline when he comes back around.", ">If a white guy was visiting Norway to find information on ancestors, he would be a Norwegian American because the context is an American with ancestral history in Norway. The term \"African American\" in casual conversation describing all black people is ridiculous as there are many other Black countries around the world besides Africa. In this case, I am using the term in exactly the correct context.\n>\n>In this case, it doesn't matter what anyone wants to be called, it is just a matter of conveying factual information.\n\nThis is such an America thing to do. I don't think I know anyone who refers to themselves as \"African British\" or \"European British\".", "Most places sweep their racism under the rug. America is very upfront about the problem.", "> If you’re trying to ELI5 to a general crowd then you generalize it to match your audience.\n\nI was just correcting an otherwise great post.", "I found the girls completely uninteresting the whole time. Young luke was alright.\n\nIn all honesty, Ty Burrell and and Eric Stonestreet held that entire show on their shoulders for me. Any scene with Ty was a goldmine and any scene without either him or Eric was dull.", "When my daughter started me on B99, she warned me: \"the lead character is a bit of a jerk for the first few episodes. Stick with it; it gets better!\"", "It felt that with Andy around, Haley became more insightful and caring. With Dylan, she kind falls back into being the \"dumb\" child. Least that is what I noticed.", "On paper, this script would read as funny but their performance was stilted and too formal to be natural. I can forgive the child actor but the timing and pace of the adult actors are constantly off while they're tonally all over the place. Some parts of the scene feel like they're just trying to burn through the script.", "The Office became a filming style that everyone copies now because TV is horrible.", "In England, \"Black British\" is the official inclusive term for most purposes black people in general but when describing an individuals identity and origin you can put as many countryish words together to tell the story. For example, a Spaniard who's mother was Polish and father was Vietnamese would explain their status and heritage as Vietnamese Polish Spanish and that would deliver the information in 3 words.\n\nIt's not often someone would refer to themselves in this way. People ordinarily pick one and stick with it for legal or conversational purposes unless maybe the conversation was about the diversity of their heritage.", "Doesnt mean they didnt have copious sex, they just kept it in the family.", "I dont think those groups would love me. Rhymes with newish.", "Yes, and if you look at the context of the above comments, the one made by /u/windowzombie is about the ecological benefits of paper bags over plastic. So taking it to the next step of hemp vs wood pulp is not exactly a non-sequitur.", ">>The rest of the world would call him an American period.\n\n>Not in the context of ancestral history as said multiple times.\n\nEven in the context. People might say American with Norwegian parents or American with Norwegian ancestry. But calling someone Norwegian American would be a no-go. \n\n>>Africa isn't a country bro...\n\n>Countries. Read it again. It says countries.\n\nYeah, Africa is a continent, not a country and not \"countries\".", "Norwegian American is a valid descriptor of a person's status and heritage.\n\nAfrica is a set of countries. This isn't hard to figure out is it? Surely you aren't that dim?", "That's so sweet and wholesome", "It's not like the show was an action show that required her to be active in scenes. The story they wrote for her (>!Andy, the pregnancy, fucking Dylan, her non-career!<) has absolutely nothing to do with whether the actress was physically able to work or not. Hell they could have written her to be doing something somewhere far away, working on something related to her >!fashion business!< or >!in another country with Andy!< to explain her absence.", ">You don't know what it's like to be hunted and exterminated for being the wrong ethnicity.\n\nDo you?\n\nAlso, everything you wrote comes down to \"I should respect these individuals\" and nothing about heritage.", "Yes you numbnut. We moved away due to literal genocide.\n\nBut Americans don't respect the ICC so of course you wouldn't know.", "Probably won't help this particular show get any traction. Who would watch this?", "I think to a lot of people who don't really know much about history it is a little shocking. Most people only really talk about slavery in the context of the past 200 odd years, and for good reason since it's more recent history.", "Yes but it's been quite a few years since then unless I'm missing something.", "I like Bless the Hart's. All the jokes hit if you've been poor.", "Well, yeah, I've watched (and even participated, sorry) in it for 20 years, but it's a whole different beast today. Nobody was using natural language processing to do it back then.", "Seen a lot of comedy shows. Friends, Seinfeldt, HIMYM, Weeds, Shameless US, The League, Wilfred, Big Bang Theory, New Girl, Brooklyn 99, Scrubs, Go On, Arrested Development, Community, The Good Place, Eigen Kweek, The Inbetweeners, Parks and Recreation, Derek, After Life, Dirk Gently's, IT-crowd, Modern Family, The Office US and UK and finally Fargo...\n\nI think when it comes to comedies this covers all shows I've seen, except maybe some small european comedies.\n\nFrom the US shows, The Office is the only 10 to me. Modern Family, Parks and Recreation and Fargo a 9. \n\nAs for the rest, I enjoyed Weeds, Shameless, Wilfred, Scrubs, Arrested Development, Community and The Good Place and Dirk Gently's. I'd rate all these shows between 7 and 8,5. They're fun, but not exceptional.\n\nBut Friends, HIMYM, The League, Big Bang, New Girl, Brooklyn 99, Go On, Seinfeldt, they're all the fcking same to me. They're still enjoyable, but I won't give any of these shows higher than a 6. They're unoriginal, characters are mostly plain and pretty boring, these are shows to fall asleep with, to watch when you're tired. Cause if you're fully awake, you won't laugh as nearly as much.\n\nNow move to the UK comedies; Inbetweeners, Office UK, Derek, After Life, IT-crowd. All of these shows are so, so much more fun and more original than all shows mentioned above with the exception of Office US, Modern Family, Fargo and Parks&Rec.\n\nI've seen enough to be able to compare things man. And most hollywood comedies are lacking in originality as well as in comedy. The Office tho is the only 10 I've ever given a comedy, and Modern Family is AMAZING too.", "They're just black. Or white. Or Spanish. Or Nigerian. Or Chinese. No need to complicate things with this African American or African English nonsense.", ">Norwegian American is a valid descriptor of a person's status and heritage.\n\nSure bud, but the rest of the world would laugh their asses of at that descriptor.\n\n>Africa is a set of countries.\n\nA continent precisely isn't a set of countries.", "‘Hello I’m Italian, no I’ve never been there, never lived there, don’t hold citizenship and don’t speak Italian… I’m Italian, see’ -waves hands about-\nNobody is stopping you from taking an interest ya toad.", "So? Asian Americans may not speak the language after a couple generations... They may have grandparents or parents that shared the culture with them. They may still say \"I'm Korean\". I just don't get why this is so upsetting to Europeans? You cant even imagine having a cultural identity carry on for generations?", "well it worked i’m now on peacock watching this episode again", "Yes. That doesn't make sense.", "First of all, I’m not upset - you are. Secondly, If you’ve grown up in the US, don’t speak Korean and don’t have the lived experience of people in Korea… you’re not Korean, you can say your ethnically Korean, originally came from Korea etc. but far too often Americans will say ‘I am ____’ and then some ridiculous interpretation of what it means to be that nationality - causing all people of that nationality to roll their eyes. ‘Oh you know me I’m Irish, so I’m always getting hammered’.", "YEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!", "Good job I didn't use the word continent then isn't it bud? Africa is \"precisely\" both a continent and therefore a set of countries. The nitpicking proves how right my original comment must have been.", "The context of personal heritage and identity is complicated, that's why these terms are so useful to dumb it down and convey more information in fewer words. It makes a lot of sense when used on an individual basis. Not so much when used to describe an entire race of people as is often the case.", "Trying to hard to make every specific “did they just say that?… no no it was a misunderstanding” joke they could. I mean the premise and the idea could totally be funny as hell. I donno. The more I think about it, the more I’m imagining it being a Peter griffin sketch", "I was just being a grammar nazi.", "> you’re not Korean, you can say your ethnically Korean\n\nThis distinction is important to you? it just seems so bizarre to care at all.\n\nI'm sure your community is super homogeneous, and these discussions rarely even come up.. But there are 20 million Asian Americans in the USA.. we develop short hand.. instead of saying \"Korean American\" or \"Chinese American\" we just say \"Korean\" or \"Chinese\". Its just so weird to me what people choose to take issue with.", ">This distinction is important to you? it just seems so bizarre to care at all.\n\nYour ethnicity is of no concern to me, why Americans continually bring it up is what's bizarre. \n\n'Hello, I'm French, I'm ethnically French!'\n\n'uh, ok, great?'", "Ahhhhh I see. Or… I did “not see”… thanks grammar nazi :)", "People find community and a shared celebration of their heritage. Its mostly other Asian Americans trying to celebrate what they have in common with other Asian Americans. Who cares? Maybe they have a good recipe for kimchee jjigae.\n\nI'm betting you don't care, because everyone around you is the same ethnicity/heritage. you have never lived in a place like the USA. You have never been a minority. But for some really weird reason.. you have strong opinions about how they should act...\n\nChalk it up to you not understanding another culture.. and keep it to yourself IMO.", "You should try The Thick of It if you haven't seen it; it has the same writer (well, as the first few series of Veep). I prefer it, but that's because Veep doesn't have Malcolm Tucker", ">People find community and a shared celebration of their heritage.\n\nWho is saying you shouldn't? Nobody - but you are culturally different from an actual Korean national and I've had too many conversations with Americans in which they assert they're from a country they're not. It's disengenous, believe it or not there's more to being Italian than waving hands about and saying 'muzzarell'. \n\n>I'm betting you don't care, because everyone around you is the same ethnicity/heritage.\n\nI live in Qatar, a country that is more ethnically diverse than America. I'm a minority too. \n\n>Chalk it up to you not understanding another culture.. and keep it to yourself IMO.\r \n\n\nSo I say that Americans are obsessed with their ethnic background and complain about them straight up appropriating nationalities as their own... and you say I don't understand different cultures. Pure, unwavering, unabashed arrogance, that's your culture, and it's as inescapable as the eye-rolling you will receive when you tell an actual Korean 'Omg, I'm Korean too, chicken jjigae amarite? Don't ya'll just love k-dramas, oopsie, spose you just call them dramas'", "Yes, because Koreans in Korea are surrounded by people of their same heritage/ethnicity.. Again.. i think you just have 0 empathy for a cultural situation different than your own. You think everything is American arrogance, its clear you just have some chip on your shoulder.", "Racist", ">Again.. i think you just have 0 empathy for a cultural situation different than your own.\n\nWhy on earth should I care about your cultural situation? Just because you eat pizza doesn't make you Italian - that's it, end of.", "And what if their grandmother is from Italy, and shared cultural traditions with them.. America has a short history, so many Americans celebrate connections to their heritage, its short hand.. Korean Americans aren't literally saying they have citizenship, if they say they are Korean. I get it, its weird for you to hear that, and you just have a huge chip on your shoulder.. and a lot of pent up anger. Im sure there are a lot of cultures in the world that you don't understand... but i bet you only obsess over Americans.", ">And what if their grandmother is from Italy\n\nOk, take a deep breath, then she is Italian. Yes? ya gettin it little feller? deep breaths now, in and out. \n\n> so many Americans celebrate connections to their heritage\n\nCelebrate all you want mate, neither me nor anyone else is stopping you... nobody cares. \n\n>I get it, its weird for you to hear that, and you just have a huge chip on your shoulder.. and a lot of pent up anger. Im sure there are a lot of cultures in the world that you don't understand... but i bet you only obsess over Americans.\n\n\\^So you have no other points - just do the usual shit aye? The Americans who pretend to be Irish are often called 'Plastic paddies' in Ireland, perhaps we could create one of these monikers for American Koreans, Kraft Koreans? Geddit? all plastic, immitation, American?", "Lol... and its important for you to try to invalidate someone's identity.. call them fake.. make clear their distinction and separation from their heritage.. Keep fighting the good fight buddy! I'm sure you are real pleasant to be around.\n\nYou have extremely limited cultural experiences and it shows.", "“Wipe out someone’s identity!”\n\nMust have been a fragile identity if that’s what I’ve done, keep cosplaying lad.\n\nGuarantee this guy has never left the US.", "I know my native tongue. Lol. And at least I didn't have to insult anyone to make my point. You really should work on your reading comprehension because you still didn't get it. It's fine if you teach your children your culture. But when they grow up they will decide if they consider themselves Norwegian or not and you have no say in this decision. Let's give an example. A Mexican migrates to the US, marries a woman, they have children. He teaches them the Mexican culture + the Spanish language. But the children consider themselves American. Got it now?", "I'll check it out, thanks!", "What is wrong with you?", "Vag-nom?", "We've got mountains of content", ">The context of personal heritage and identity is complicated, that's why these terms are so useful to dumb it down and convey more information in fewer words. \n\nExactly. Nothing is simplier in this context, yet just as descriptive, as simply stating the colour of these people.\n\nElse you're kind of implying that every black American is/was African, which is more likley to be incorrect.", "I was referring to a single person. What the hell is wrong with you?", "I don't watch a lot of Network TV, but I do know that StarTrek was basically ruined by similar minded people. They admitted to not really understanding, or even liking Star Trek. It was a way for the producers (and there's more than 16 of them) to pat themselves on the back.", "That’s already most of Reddit anyway.", "I had a “friend” who I tried watching this with and after a while all she could do was complain about how racist, sexist, etc all the cast is in the show, I don’t think she got that it was satire. Tbf she has a strong SJW vibe so she was picking low hanging fruit by vilifying this show. I found it hilarious, and also a good effort to bring to light the ignorance people have. The way this show is written reminds me a lot of king of the hill. Hank hill and his family are stuck in their own world but whenever they saw change they didn’t understand, they atleast tried to meet people in the middle and get along. Modern family is a great show, probably for all the wrong reasons", "Mate, you're using the same platform as I am. Don't make yourself sound too high and mighty.", "Seriously… I find this scene hilarious lmao!", "Take my upvote and get out.", "The thing is, I've seen the same attachment to ancestry in German and Austrian Americans, who faced almost no discrimination and in the case of Germans were very widespread.\n\nI'm not going to claim that community separation and discrimination weren't factors, I think they definitely were. But I think the whole thing is complex and I'd rather ask a historian or anthropologist than speculate based on my pretty limited view.", "Search Party. Stars the actress that plays Maeby from Arrested Development and is a genius dark comedy.", "It's very slow to load. Slow to get in and out of menus. Slow to log in. Everything is very slow and sluggish compared to netflix.\n\nThe roku app may be the worst, but the playstation app is not much better.", "I love 30 Rock, but whenever I think about recommending it, I always think about that interview where Tina Fey says her daughter got really into \"Aunt Amy's show,\" Parks and Rec, but when she tried to watch \"her mom's show,\" 30 Rock, it was \"too weird.\"\n\nIt is a weird show, especially as it goes on, but my God it's just nonstop comedy.", "Nice to see someone recommending Psych. It's such a unique show. It was made in the vein of Monk but it has so much charm and generally plays things a lot lighter even though it is still a murder mystery show. The cast has so much chemistry it's insane. \n\nIf anyone reading this watches it, keep in mind that the pilot is good, but one of the main characters doesn't come in until the second episode and she really ties it all together.", "It's one of my wife's and my favorite shows! I say \"I've heard it both ways\" and \"You know that's right\" regularly.", "Don't know for sure, but I think this is possibly around season 5/6/7...?" ]	688	videos	Offending every race, ethnicity, sexuality all in one scene
https://youtu.be/3xh6fxaQkm8&t=1m28s	/r/videos/comments/rfzziu/incredible_i_will_always_love_you_cover/	[ "I like it, but i think it's good but not great. Feel like more of the appeal comes from a flanny wearing guy singing it than the quality of the performance. Still, nice to see an honest cover.", "This guy is a great dude from Fort worth TX! Love him.", "When I read the title, this was the video I was hoping it would be.", "I member peepin this with just a few thousand views YEARS ago.\n\nListen to how quiet the audience can get when he’s in the zone. You can hear my panties drop.", "It certainly is great if you consider he's also playing at the same time. There's better one but they don't accompany themselves." ]	5	videos	Incredible I Will Always Love You cover
https://youtu.be/DNz3hy2Zjn4	/r/videos/comments/rg0ni2/you_have_an_app_we_have_the_right_users_appshive/	[ "If you think self-promoting your app on /r/videos is going to do anything positive you know nothing about promotion. Sorry for the bluntness.", "Yes, I know ultimately it's the product that is going to bring users. But I believe you shouldn't miss any chance to promote your product. You don't want to be those products that have a great concept but poor distribution.", "First, Appstores don't allow you search apps for particular occupation. \n\nSecondly, Appstores don't let you search apps from your city, state, and Country.\n\nSecondly, App stores doesn't let you search apps from your city, state, and Country.y.\n\nAnd App Store and Play store only let you search app for main categories. AppsHive has multiple subcategories for one main category. So users can search specific Apps. e. g Dating App is the main category, but Dating apps for Farmers, Dating apps for the LGBT community, etc", "There can be a fine line between promoting your product and spamming your product. Especially when you start trying to 'promote' it to people not in your target audience.", "I Agree with that. But the product itself connects App users to App Owners.", "It may very well do that. But the title and thumbnail are 100% focused on app owners. Not users. There are 1,000 better places to promote your app to app owners than r/videos. I suggest spending your time on those. And, even if the video were to focus on gaining users for your app it wouldn't do well in this sub.\n\nJust a few pieces of advice. Do with it what you want. Most of us who have started marketing things on the internet went through the same phase of 'I'm going to push this everywhere I possibly can' when the best use of time is actually finding and engaging with the right audience.", "Thank You for your feedback. You are not wrong.", "No problem. Good luck.", "Yes but it's not properly curated results. You would find mixed results." ]	9	videos	You Have an App, We Have the Right Users \| AppsHive
https://youtu.be/2dD3Fawk4y0	/r/videos/comments/rg1knv/curve_disturbing_horror_short_film/	[ "That was intense.", "Very", "Why were more handprints appearing? Is it like a mirror?", "Lol this YouTube comment:\n\n\"Take your shoes off, you need more grip. Wet your jacket with your blood and put it over your hands and use the grip to turn around. Then it’s easy as standing straight up and doing a backflip straight down into the void. \"", "Someone in the YT comments did notice that this looks like a part of a hydroplant kind of system. If that is the case then the rain at the end of the video makes everything worse", "It's really hard to hear, but right before we get a shot of the other hands you hear someone else slide off and hit bottom.", "zzzzz", "That was good.", "Yeah they nailed the eerie discomfort on this. Strong feelings of hopelessness.", "Sort of...we see the dried handprints first, then she shifts around a bit and we see her slip, and when she does we hear someone else fall and scream. Then she looks again and the dried handprints are leaking blood. It doesn't really make much sense unless the director had more going on that got cut post-production.", "Could represent others she's already seen and heard fall, a stylized flashback.", "Good call, I was thinking alternate realities, but your idea works a lot better. Either way, a hard concept to explain in a short film with no talking.", "Thinking on it more the flashback idea also working into how she starts changing things up like drying the blood and blowing on them between the cut aways to the blood stains. She's trying things she saw work for others.", "It captured nightmare feelings well, and that abrupt slip and scream the moment she opened her eyes initially.", "Yeah boooring, just watch the first 30 seconds then skip to the end, you won't miss a thing." ]	20	videos	Curve \| Disturbing Horror Short Film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBMhHbkXcuU&h84	/r/videos/comments/rg3vm9/pickle_expert_guessing_cheap_vs_expensive_pickles/	[ "20 minutes of my life, but I'm not even mad :D", "pickle expert... well.", "Fermented pickles? Y'all crazy. \n\nAlso habanero peppers in pickle brine is way too much. Overpowers the other flavours.", "I could tell which pickle was less valuable just by looking at them for each round.\n\nIf the pickle itself is neon green, you know it was mass produced." ]	4	videos	Pickle Expert guessing cheap vs expensive pickles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NI1fTx8tI	/r/videos/comments/rg4n5n/testing_alec_baldwins_revolver_theory/	[ "Solid video but I think I saw this here yesterday", "I stopped watching as soon as he cracked a joke about an innocent person being killed by simply doing her job. She was buried less than two weeks ago. That's some real douchery right there.", "Agreed. What a twat." ]	3	videos	Testing Alec Baldwin's Revolver Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vorBajs3-yE	/r/videos/comments/rg54v3/digipen_institute_of_technology_is_highly/	[ "My you get brother went here for a while and hated it. Made him go from loving games and game design to hating them.", "That thumbnail is pretty cringe", "You're pretty cringe", "Woah" ]	4	videos	DigiPen Institute of Technology is highly regarded in the games industry, it also teaches students to accept being overworked & crunched to breaking point. The Jimquisition has spoken with a number of DigiPen students who report feelings of mistreatment & dissatisfaction with the college.
https://youtu.be/P9MbI_UCqoE	/r/videos/comments/rg5qwa/meg_myers_desire_live/	[ "Her [Tiny Desk Concert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSMt8qbhu0w) is amazing.", "she looks very young to be be having those thoughts", "[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7iVWK2W48o) is the cover that put Meg Myers on the map for me.", "I first heard her on [this remix](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2A-Jbo-EaU) \n\nNow anytime I hear a trashy euro-beat background soundtrack on some random video, I wonder if it hides a sophisticated artist with a couple albums that they just yanked a couple random lines from...", "She's 35", "What even is this comment?", "Woah pretty sure I heard this on a movie at some point and never figured out who sang it", "Hard to measure up to Kate freaking Bush but that cover is outstanding", "Badass!", "LOL i guess some people like different things. I like a wide range of music and don't shit on what others like. Everyone's different i guess.", "Let's get you back to bed grandpa.", "You seem confused and tired. Have some milk and lets get you back to bed.", "Of course it does grandpa. We'll put the Golden Girls back on and you just relax.", "The kind of crazy you could never say no to.", "My thoughts entirely.", "Thanks for posting the NPR tiny desk link, that is straight up r/frisson quality!" ]	22	videos	Meg Myers - Desire (LIVE)
https://youtu.be/ypr18UmxOas	/r/videos/comments/rg6kax/garbage_i_think_im_paranoid_official_video/	[ "huh, got concert dates coming up", "This band is Garbage.", "Also liked Garbage because of Butch Vig who produced both Nevermind for Nirvana and Siamese Dream for the the Smashing Pumpkins. Basically he produced the 90s sound I love.\n\nedit: He's the drummer", "Don't really understand what a visually uninteresting music video is doing in r/videos", "My childhood celebrity crush.", "More recently also working with Foo Fighters on a few albums", "Bitch Vig is quite dishy.", "Anybody else have this song imprinted on your memory from gran Turismo 2", "I saw them this summer. They were excellent", "I always get downvoted when i say that, but thats their name.", "And I totally commented on the wrong comment. Balls.", "Yes, this and also My Favorite Game by The Cardigans!", "Bring back the 90's!", "It still made sense cuz Reddit and all.", "Listening to this song instantly takes me back to Rock Band. A group of us would get stoned and 'rock out' on the weekends.", "Still like to drive to this song!", "Wow good thing there's such a timely and coincidental post! Quick, let's go to https://www.ticketmaster.ca/garbage-tickets/artist/776816 to see if there's a concert near you to buy tickets now!\n\nDon't forget to buy their merch: https://garbage.manheadmerch.com/\n\n\n/s", "(Day dreams about Shirley )", "Such a good game", "I think I'm paranoid of hailcorp sometimes.", "They sound so different live", "90's and clearly limited time", "I never really liked Garbage when they were huge and just dismissed them as some mediocre grunge band. Boy was I wrong. I have gone back and listened to their remastered catalogue and good god the production and music direction is genius.", "A lot of that sound came from Kurt Cobain, who in turn was heavily inspired by the pixes. He said when he first heard them, it was exactly what he wanted to do, to the point that he felt like he should be in that band. Inspired him to not do punk (as much) anymore and do grunge instead (of course back then it wasn't called grunge or seattle sound or anything.)\n\nNaturally it's not as simple as \"nirvana got it from the pixies and they came up with it\", lots of influences coming together. The Beatles influenced both of these groups for example. On that note I've heard someone say (maybe even Butch Vig?) that [Helter Skelter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWW2SzoAXMo) could be considered the first Grunge song \n\n-e- it was actually David Geffen who said that", "I have to wonder how many bands the Pixies influenced? They were WAY ahead of their time. To the point that their music holds up today. Hell, the overuse of \"Where is my Mind\" in TV and film is damn near criminal, because they do things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ_hw20Qg7g\n\nTo specific what I love about Vig's mixes are the \"crunchy\" guitar sounds mixed in with clear vocals. Everything is loud, but instead of pure distortion, you can make out every piece. I can certainly see this in the Pixies as well.", "That's a healthy paranoia though", "That glitch allowed me to beat so many races my young mind never had the patience to overcome." ]	27	videos	Garbage - I Think I'm Paranoid (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1FRc2iPe7Qhttps%3A%2Fyoutu.be%2FT1FRc2iPe7Q&feature=youtu.be	/r/videos/comments/rg8bxt/testing_my_new_3080_ti_graphics_card_on_various/	[ "It looks like it causes an echo It looks like it causes an echo", "how are you gonna test a 3080ti and stream at 480o lol", "Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2" ]	3	videos	Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2Testing my new 3080 TI graphics card on various games like Assassin's Creecd 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dng0Tdhq6NM	/r/videos/comments/rg8w71/amazon_driver_doesnt_put_car_in_park_smashes_big/	[ "That’s a pot, not a vase.", "All vases are pots, but not all pots are vases?", "Pretty sure cases are for indoor use, and hold flowers, not soil/plants.", "Pretty sure a case is a container made to contain something. Like beer.", "Ducking autocorrect." ]	6	videos	Amazon Driver Doesn't Put Car in Park, Smashes Big Vase
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rg8xu9/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rg8xu9/deleted_by_user/	[ "It definitely helps a lot that it was a perfect day and almost no traffic. When he showed the car going over the double yellow, had another car been coming the other way he would 100% need to disengage.", "Not sure why driving on a perfectly maintained road with little traffic and no bikes, pedestrians or intersections is presented as an special achievement for the autopilot? As far as I know it's city driving where it really struggles. Just following the double yellow lines isn't as impressive as it once was.", "I would never take a death trap like a Tesla car on any road let alone the deadliest road.", "That road didn't look dangerous at all... I'm sure the high crash rate is more to do with being a tourist attraction for dumbass stunt drivers.", "It seems this road is dangerous mostly due to reckless drivers seeking it out rather than the actual road being that dangerous? I don't mean to start a pissing contest, but this kind of road is quite common in mountainous areas like Norway or the Alps where the tarmac/asphalt is far less well maintained.", "talk about a click bait title", "I wanna see it drive through mumbai/hanoi streets during rush hours with hundreds of moped streaming through it. now that is a real challenge for self driving algorithm not this sham of a strawman", "Driving a road with lots of curves isn't all that tricky for a self-driving system to do. Following the lines is just about the easiest possible thing a self-driving car can do.\n\nThe real test is interacting with other drivers and human beings. So while this is kind of neat, it says nothing about how good the self-driving actually is when it matters.\n\nAlso, weather. Good luck driving in snow, Tesla auto pilot.", "That road had perfectly painted lines for the Tesla to follow... hardly a challenge.", "Using the name ‘Autopilot’ was one of the single most reckless marketing ploys I’ve ever seen, and it’s not talked about enough.", "Wouldn't the autopilot have seen the approaching car and moved right ahead of time to prevent any need for disengaging though? I don't know too much about how the tech works but it should still know where the right hand edge of the road is, so it would adjust across if it saw something else coming at it?", "Maybe; we don't know. The point is that as a test of an autopilot system, it fails to actually test anything difficult other than sharp turns." ]	12	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwxJUmgO_nM	/r/videos/comments/rg8yt6/i_found_an_actual_furry_cult/	[ "These are Schrodinger's cult furries and I'm not collapsing the wave function by looking. Nice try OP.", "I can't tell who is more obnoxious, the dragon guy, or whoever the guy is who made this video.", "100% I kept flip flopping both are just grating to listen to", "There is no difference between this and onlyfans models. Some people are into this, don't kink shame my man", "who gives a shit", "man, sometimes I think the internet wasn't a good idea..." ]	7	videos	i found an actual furry cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUJYP8tnRE	/r/videos/comments/rg9kfs/why_we_should_not_look_for_aliens_the_dark_forest/	[ "Thank you for sharing, so good", "This theory is becoming increasingly unlikely as our observations of the universe get better. Intent to hide would not be able to obscure the large energy signatures required to kill entire civilizations in one shot.", "That's assuming we know everything about physics and technology. How do you know there aren't ways to hide energy signatures like that?", "If we assume that then we can also assume efficient defenses against one shot kills are available at those power scales. Planetary shields and the like would negate the dark forest completely.", "I feel like this video never actually properly explained the dark forest theory.\n\nIsaac Arthur's video is a bit more in-depth and actually defines what it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmCTmgavkrQ\n\nedit: I do think this video has value though. Unlike a lot of popular science videos, it does point out that extraterrestrial beings might not think like we do and we should strive to be better. So many pop-sci figures and videos love to push the \"spooky aliens will definitely kill us like ants\" narrative because it's more provocative.", "In the book the concept originates from, there is a method to negate the dark forest but it's not a planetary shield. Planetary shields would be incredibly easy to bypass by just destroying the solar systems star or other esoteric weaponry. \n\nIn the book they basically stop the speed of light from being able to exceed the escape velocity of the solar systems star, this causes it to essentially look like a black hole to anyone observing. No one can enter, no one can leave. They are safe from the dark forest, but can never interact with it.", "I think that just like there are predatory civilizations there are also civilizations which have evolved beyond our very basic animalistic understanding of existence and they'd definitely have the upper hand over the predatory one's.Its going to be about who we come across first in the forest", "Sounds like your talking about the three body problem books 2 and 3. There are more ways there eventually such as dimension hopping and pocket universes as well as vagrant fleets.\n\nAnyway the problem with that interpretation is that it assumes historical determinism and convergent evolution to be absolutely true. Life out there is certainly more bizzare than a simple game of light speed realpolitik.", "I was introduced to this idea in the Remembrance of Earth's Past series and it completely changed how I thought about searching for alien life. \n\nI found the books to be pretty weak when it comes to storytelling, characters and prose, but the sci-fi concepts were super fascinating. I don't read that much science fiction so most of the ideas were new to me. I recommend checking out the books for that alone (and from what I've seen many don't find those other things as frustrating as I did).", "Brand new account, why should anyone believe a word you say?", "That's the funny thing. We don't know, so we are back to assumptions, and back to square one.\n\nWhat do you do if you detect a different species? How can you be certain that they are different and more peaceful, with only good intentions, how could you validate these assumptions from light years away? Unless FTL developed and easily usable, due to exponential progress of technology, you cannot risk being indecisive, which the main point of the theory\n\n> Life out there is certainly more bizzare than a simple game of light speed realpolitik.\n\nIs a statement which you cannot validate without FTL or other way of almost instant teleportation.", "> Why does my account age matter? \n\nBecause brand new accounts making crazy claims are generally troll accounts or bots in 99% of cases.\n\n>Again, they lied in the video. It's not a matter of what you \"believe\". \n\nProve it then. Instead of making baseless claims. \n\n>As you are proving, there is a political faction that keeps defending these blatant lies no matter what. No matter how many statistics prove the complete opposite of your claims, you will always just keep repeating the lie.\n\nI'm just asking for proof, I haven't repeated anything. Are you talking about yourself?", "Do you have any peer reviewed statistics to prove this? Or are you again making baseless claims? You're so obviously a troll you have to self censor your own posts so you don't get them removed instantly. Fucking hilarious.", "> What the fuck does \"peer review\" have anything to do with it? \n\nPeer reviewing is important, because that's how you seperate good data from shit data. Without it you can make shitty graphs correlating how cheese cosumption also causes motorcycle deaths. Despite the fact that the two are completely unrelated. \n\nBut since you refuse to give any sources and just start insulting me instead. I can only assume you are a complete liar. I hope you one day figure out that the world is a lot bigger and complex then you think it is.", "> You don't even know what that means. We are talking about statistics. \n\nAnd statistics are generally part of studies, which give you the picture of the situation much clearer than just the numbers alone. Are you sure you're not projecting your lack of understanding on me here?\n\n>Nope. \n\nThat's your reply to that argument? I guess you are impossible to reason with if you're unwilling to discuss in good faith. \n\n>I did. The source for crimes are from the police and the justice system. \n\nNo, you didn't. There are zero links in this entire comment chain. \n\n>You just ignore all that and isisnt that some German propaganda channel on youtube is the only legit source for crime and education and tax spending. \n\nNo, you're the one acting like that's the case. Kurzgesagt is an entertainment channel with a focus on education. But the entertainment comes first and foremost. This isn't something they are lying about. \n\n>There is nothing complex about your endless lies.\n\nThat's what all delusional people say. I'm sorry you have to live like this. I won't be replying any more because it's clear you aren't interested in reasonable discourse.", "Is that it, are you gonna keep saying the same 2 things over and over?", "If you like this type of thing, I highly recommend the Three-Body problem series.", "We have no idea if that's true. We have no idea how advanced civilizations can be. They could potentially be capable of doing things we would never understand and therefor have no idea they are doing it. Humans are primitive. Imagine an ant colony being able to detect human beings coming to destroy their colony in a matter of minutes. Imagine us being the ant colony and an alien species being the humans. It's possible we wouldn't understand them and their technology any more than ants understand humans and our technology.", "he took a long time to build the concept (i say that since i'm already familiar with it from the books). i'm glad i stuck with it because he brought up a good point towards the end i had not considered. \n\nthe books end the idea with \"well you should just wander the dark forest and kill everyone you hear\". video guy says \"you should probably colonize every world you can so you don't have a single point of failure. THEN you should probably become a wartime species when you need to. but i don't think dark forest is valid because we don't see it playing out on earth\".\n\n\nooooooooooh, but i disagree. i'm so glad he mentioned the peactime expansion idea. because i think that that is 100% exactly what us earth people are all stuck doing right now. we are all butting heads doing peacetime expansion. we all know about each other. it's not a dark forest anymore, so the strategy has obviously changed, but peacetime expansion is definitely it.", "> assumes historical determinism and convergent evolution\n\nwhat do you mean? that all evolution will end up at the same biological point? that no matter where life starts, we're all going to end up being able to do the same things, eventually? \n\nand, historical determinism. again, as in, we're all going to have some sort of civil rights movements no matter what species we are? all going to come up with plasma engines? all going to come up with stasis to survive warp space travel.\n\n\nassuming i'm not 100% wrong in what i just asked, let me make a broad comparison. on planet earth, humans built bridges. another life form, beavers, KINDA, also have built bridges across water ways. 2 different animals came up with a same technology. i don't think it's crazy that another life form, on another planet, knowing reasonable math concepts like the video states, would be able to think of something similar.", "The James Webb Telescope launches on December ~~22nd~~ (delayed to the 24th now due to an unforseen issue). It will be 100x more powerful than the Hubble. We'll soon get a much better look into the forest, maybe even find out how dark it really is. Truly exciting.", "Brand new account yet again. Interesting.", "I didn't deny anything, and no I'm not American thankfully. If I was I would hang myself rather than live there.", "But you refused to source the statistics so how can I look at them? And I haven't lied once (unless you can prove that I did somewhere). Also why did you feel the need to create a brand new account to reply again?", "Yeah, [just wait until the Qu show their faces](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByV5-S712cg8Tk1vQWVFZVM5S28/view?resourcekey=0-f0n8tTyFknuKmWvLl6gYFQ)", ">YEs you did. \n\nWhere? My comment said 'Brand new account yet again. Interesting', where is the denial in that? Please point it out to me in bold letters. \n\nNot Canadian either, completely wrong continent. And instead of taking a picture of the statistics, how about you just post the link to the statistics, that would get rid of my doubts that you're completely lying. But you seem to be avoiding doing that at every turn.", "you are assuming said life forms exist in the 3 dimensional space... or within our visible spectrum...", "I get triggered just reading that name and they haven't even done anything yet. What a bunch of assholes.", "> No, I didn't. It's YOU who refuses to source your claims and appeals to German youtube channels as if they were actual sources. \n\nYou have never asked for a source once in this comment chain. And I never said that they were actual sources, I literally said they were an entertainment channel...\n\n>yes you have. You claim the statistics are wrong and claim that anybody who disagrees with your propaganda is a troll and/or bot (whatever that is even supposed to mean). \n\nNo I didn't, I never claimed the statistics were wrong at any point. Nor did I say anyone who disagrees is a troll or bot. Get your facts straight. I will post exactly what I said here:\n\n>\n\n>>Why does my account age matter?\n\n>Because brand new accounts making crazy claims are generally troll accounts or bots in 99% of cases.\n\nThis was when you asked why your account age mattered. I said nothing about claiming stats were wrong, or that anyone who disagrees is a troll or bot. \n\n>AGain, there was a bombing today and two shootings yesterday. Did that not happen? \n\nWhat the fuck are you talking about? None of that has anything to do with what we're talking about? Are you high?", "> Where are you from then? \n\nI am under no obligation to tell you. Especially since you're being a combative douchebag with no care for reasonable discourse. \n\n>Again, you are lying by saying the statistics are wrong and anybody who disagrees with you is a troll/bot. \n\nI never said that. Please point out where I said that. \n\n>I already did. What is your source for claiming Kurzgesagt is right and the statistics aren't? \n\nNo you did not. You posted a picture of the statistics, which anyone can photoshop. Show me the page you got those statistics from. It's as simple as that.", "> OK, show me the \"real peer reviewed statistics\" then. \n\nWhat statistics? I have never said I possesed any statistics, this entire time I have been asking for the statistics you are using. And I specifically asked for them to be peer reviewed as well, to help prevent data cherrypicking. \n\nBut you refused to give the link to the statistics, every single time I asked. All you will give is a link to imgur. Which is as useful as 1 ply toilet paper. \n\n>Yes you did. \n\nThen prove it. Take a picture of my claiming it's wrong and show it to me. Right now. \n\n>Bullshit. You attack people who point to the actual statistics instead of your propaganda videos. \n\nYou're the one attacking people, I only asked for solid proof of any of your claims. This is some hardcore projection you're doing. \n\n>Bombings and shootings are crimes. We are talking about crime among other things. \n\nNo we were not, in case you forgot we're talking about kurzgesagt. Or did you completely forget that when you went on a racist rant? \n\n>Also, on average, an asylum seeker will cost 1.2 million Euros to our tax payer during their lifetime. You will deny that as well.\n\nNo, I won't. Because I don't know any other statistics on this specific topic. And I'm not gonna go start looking because you wouldn't care anyway.", "> I Was appealing to Kurzgesagt and you started attacking me for it. \n\nI never attacked you for it, I simply said asked why we should believe you? Especially since your account is brand new (and I'm guessing your other one already got banned since you had to make a new one). \n\n>So you admit that I was right all along. Got it. \n\nNo, that's not how any of this works. If you can point out where I said it, then you would be right, yes. But you did not. \n\n>And there we go denying the statistics once again. You can confirm it with our police any time you want. \n\nThen give me the link to the statistics. You are only giving a picture. Give me the link to the statistics you dense mothefucker. (There's an attack for you)\n\n>is .fi/kotimaa/art-2000005933247.html\n\n>Still denying it?\n\n\n???? This isn't even a link to anything...", "> You just claimed the stats are \"photoshopped\". \n\nNo I did not. Again you are failing to read compeltely. This is what I said: 'No you did not. You posted a picture of the statistics, which anyone can photoshop.' \n\nI did not say they were photoshoped, I said that anyone can photoshop stuff like that. Which is why I asked specifically for a link to the stats themselves, so it can't be photoshopped. \n\n>I attacked your propaganda and lies. \n\nYou're attacking people, claiming you're attacking 'propaganda and lies' is the same shit the Nazi's pulled. \n\n>I'm talking about them lying about crime among other things. \n\nIf only you sourced anything and were capable of reading, you might have actually had a decent argument. If they were lying, then prove it. Post a link to the statistics you keep whining like a baby about and end this charade once and for all. \n\n>It would be awesome if you actually admitted that I was right all along. But you won't, because it goes against you political agenda.\n\nSigh, you really are as dense as a black hole.", ">You'll just keep goign in circles to defend rapists, because it supports your political agenda. You will attack all statistics because of your political agenda. \n\nThe only thing I am defending is actual knowledge. You seem to not care about that. \n\n>You have said multiple times that you don't believe any of the statistics, only German propaganda on Youtube. \n\nNo I have not. This is my final comment because you have again refused to tell me where I've said anything you're claiming I did. \n\n>Yes it is. Just remove the space. It's one of the biggest newspapers in the country.\n\nWould've been nice if you had put that in your comment so I didn't have to ask. But I guess that's too much thinking for you. It's also a tabloid, do you also think the DailyMail is a source for good information too? Tabloids are rags, mainly because they don't source their fucking claims. \n\nThat article STILL does not fucking give a source to the statistics from the finnish police. So I'm done trying to talk to a dipshit like you. No wonder the world is going to shit with people with brains like yours.", "> lmao. This is what you people call \"good faith arguments\" yeah? \n\nDo you have a rebuttal or not? Because it sounds like you don't and are just trying to laugh to cover up the fact that your blatant lie has been exposed. \n\n>I already did, and you STILL deny it, because you support rape among other horrible things. \n\nThis is called slander, I ain't supporting any of that shit. You're putting words in my mouth because your actual argument is so weak you can't do anything else. \n\n>There was a bombing jsut today and you are denying that as well. You will never admit that it happened.\n\nI haven't heard about one today myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen. See, that's not called denying it, that's called not being sure. Do you understand the difference yet you dumb fuck? Again, I won't be replying further.", "> \n> \n> \n> \n> And AGAIN you are denying the statistics by simply calling the statistics a \"tabloid\"\n\nAs a final remark. The statistics are not coming from the tabloid the moron. They come from the finnish police, or did you forget that? So if the finnish police website show me the stats, that solves that problem. \n\nCalling anyone who disagrees with you a commie is such an American thing, dumbass burgerboy.", "We have no evidence that life exists outside of the third dimension. Life doesn't exist in our visible spectrum, that's just one of the ways we as humans sense things. We also hear, so does life exist as compression waves?? \nFurther, we have detectors that span the range of the EM spectrum, none of which have detected life so far...", "we had no evidence that the world was round, until it was proven.", "How does that change the theory if lifeforms existed in other dimensions or reflected non-visible light?", "[lol](https://youtu.be/xAUJYP8tnRE?t=22)", "Yes we fucking did. Never heard of Eratosthenes?", "The best book series I've ever read by far. Nothing compares to it.", "What if there is something that can get passed the planetary shield? Some weird loop holes in the laws of physics that not every species knows about? If I'm thinking of this, I bet anything that a species that can create a planetary force field has probably though it too.", "I had never heard of this before, thanks for sharing, what a wild ride", "Day old account making big claims about controversial issue while providing zero evidence to back up the things they say.\n\nLooks like a good day to Downvote And Move On.", "I've been reading a story; [Forty Millenniums of Cultivation](https://www.novelupdates.com/series/forty-millenniums-of-cultivation/) and it brings up dark forest theory a ton. Hell even the synapse is a quote about it. \n\n>In the end, even the smallest sparks will eventually set the shadowy forest ablaze, and illuminate the whole world!\n\nIt's scifi mixed with cultivation and proposes various societal \"solutions\" to the dark forest. First hundred or so chapters are all on planet, then it expands to the universe. Think crouching tiger meets warhammer. \n\nThe ultimate solution to the problem is basically; who care? The point of living is to live, not cower in fear. Humanity should burn bright as a beacon of hope and set the forest on fire.\n\nCurrently 2700ish chapters translated by fans(it's chinese novel) which are available if you google for them. I think it's pretty damn good read if you enjoy scifi.", "That's exactly what I mean.\n\nLook at how differently we humans approach life compared to bonobos.\n\nAliens will have such differences from us that it'll be hard to even recognize them like in Solaris, Arrival or Contact.", "That argument cuts both ways and it kind of invalidates the dark forest theory. Humans don't care about warring with ants. Other ants do.\n\nThe idea that two civilizations will be at similar points in development when they meet is ridiculous. One is going to be so much more advanced than the other that it'll be an ant vs human relationship. They have no reasons to eradicate each other.", "very good point. i think the more recent movie arrival portrayed that difference and learning in a good way.\n\nus and the aliens were unable to communicate. all the aliens were able to do is help show one of the humans something in the humans brain over and over again. some memories they already had. once they understood the pattern, they understood the alien language and started to learn the alphabet. they could do basic communication with the aliens.\n\ni think this is a lot like us trying to talk to a dog. they can't learn to talk. all we can do is watch them and try to show them \"the good thing\" over and over until they \"recognize the good thing\" we keep showing them, and do it on their own.", "Love you for this lol, attacking troll bigots. Even tho it's in vain and kinda pointless since they are arguing in bad faith. Still funny to see them so mad. Props to you buxton!", "That's a good video but I'm having a hard time not being distracted by how much he sounds like Homestar Runner.", "Troll", "We also don’t think twice about wiping out ant colonies if we find them and they are an annoyance. We don’t even think twice about it. We do it and forget about it immediately. We risk this happening to us by venturing out into the galaxy or attempting to and being an annoying ant to some way mor advanced species who could wipe us out and not think twice. Shit, a super advanced species likely would not even consider us sentient by their standards the same we do with ants. It’s a huge risk.", "Nothing in human history tells me \"hiding\" will be an option for our civilization.", "...how many books have you read? Give us a baseline.", ">We also don’t think twice about wiping out ant colonies if we find them and they are an annoyance. \n\nJainism and environmentalists exist. There are people who don't automatically kill ants, you just lack imagination and experience.", "Yeah I've read a lot of sci-fi (like 150+ books) and think it's pretty middle of the road quality wise. Good, but not amazing and hitting a lot of the same ideas that other authors have already written about.", "For sci fi which the three body series is, 30ish. I've read the entire expanse series, and as good as that was, it still just didn't measure up to three body. My preferences are just that, preferences, so maybe others would disagree. The series really gives you a sense of cosmic dread and impending doom. It explores the concept of time travel in a really cool way. It really tries to paint of picture of what going up against a hyper advanced civilization would be like, but then snuffs out your notion that the hyper advanced civilization is anything other than a colony of ants compared to whats actually out there. Reality bending aliens that have destroyed entire universes. Its just a really neat series.", "You're talking about a guy that proved it, and simultaneously missing his point.", "The point is we know what ants are capable of.\n\nWe have no idea of what an alien civilization is capable of until it's potentially too late (unless we strike first).", "Two brand new accounts with the same agenda and writing style both found this thread and started responding in the same comment chain.\n\nWhat are the chances?", "Good summary about the realities of space warfare. Rods from god are the next nuclear bombs, there's no defense other than having your civilisation on multiple planets.", "Which ones would you recommend/blew your socks off?", "It really really depends on what you like to read. I'm a huge big idea, mystery, alien ruins, kind of guy so I like a lot of \"classic sci-fi\". (I'm going to list some stuff but I'll keep it pretty main stream so it'll be hard to miss.)\n\nStuff like the Foundation series, Fahrenheit 451, or 2001. \n\nBut there is a ton of great \"space marine\" type stuff out there. Some of it is just action, and some of it is deeper. The Old Man's War series is real fun (if you don't mind adult language and sex), The Forever War is amazing and really hits hard when you think about it in the context of a Vietnam Vet coming home from the war. Armor by John Steakley is an '80s version of Starship Troopers and I liked that as well.\n\nI don't really like the dumb action space stuff most of the time though so I'm not the best person to ask about that. \n\nThe Dune series is great but many find it dense. Hyperion by Dan Simmons is very interesting and both an interesting story and a bunch of side stories all together. \n\nThe Windup Girl was real fun, it's dystopian future South East Asia with a bunch of modified animals and biotech stuff.\n\nThe Expanse books are real fun if you want \"hard sci-fi\" aka more realistic, and the show is fun too!\n\nIt's a huge genre with a number of sub-genres. It's like saying you like action films, then realizing that Terminator 2 and Indiana Jones are both kinda action movies but super different.\n\nI mean The Martian is a Sci-fi book about a man stuck on Mars, but Star Wars books are also Sci-fi and it's hard to get more different and still be in the same \"genre\". \n\nTell me what you like to read/watch and I can tell you what you might like. Also let me know if you mind a slow burn, some books are AMAZING but need a lot of info before it all comes together and hits you. A lot of people don't like that, and that's a-okay!\n\n(Like Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro is great but hard to recommend to random people).", "Ringworld left a lasting impression on me, even after 40 years.", "Yeah - I sympathise with speech impediments but damn was it hard to focus on what he was saying.", "And ants attacking a human get wiped out for being an annoyance.", "Yeah, I won't be able to sleep ghe night before that one. I know the engineers know what they're doing, but still, it's a hugely complicated satellite.", "Altruism just may be a choke point towards becoming a very advanced race. If you're hostile towards other races I would imagine there's a very good likelihood that you're also hostile towards your own. We see this all the time in the animal kingdom; lions killing cubs sired from another male, Chimps savagely beating and killing rival troopes, etc; that's not even mentioning humanity's own conflicts. Who's to say hostile aliens don't blow themselves up before they get to a point where they can meet another civilization to be hostile towards. \n\nNow culture may be a way around this or perhaps if they're some kind of hive mind. However life isn't perfect and it tends to be quite vicious (law of the jungle and all that). It may be that it's quite difficult for intelligent species to shed their animalistic traits before they develop the technology to end their own race. Perhaps this could explain the dearth of signs of intelligent life; most don't make it past weapons of mass destruction.", "Check out r/printSF (where the SF stands for Speculative Fiction, which also includes alternate history and the like)", "It's more like Elmer Fudd." ]	93	videos	Why We Should NOT Look For Aliens - The Dark Forest [Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell]
https://youtu.be/6y0w3p-sMdo	/r/videos/comments/rg9om3/how_big_corporations_shift_blames_of_carbon/	[ "Everything is ultimately the responsibility of the consumer. If you dont buy it, they don't make it. \n\nIt's fashionable to get internet points blaming business, but they aren't the problem.", "Finally someone with a shred of common sense. \n\nReally tired of people complaining about big companies that make our lives incredibly comfortable.", "The creation of the egg is ultimately responsibility of the chicken. If the chicken didn't exist, then it couldn't lay an egg.\n\nIt's fashionable to get internet points blaming the egg for growing into a chicken, but the egg isn't the problem.\n\n[/s](https://imgur.com/gallery/uZyM1)\n\nedit: also, I just watched the video, and [it's based on debunked bullshit carbon math](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/20/tweets/how-much-co2-did-bezos-rocket-ride-release-close-z/).", "Corporate Astroturfers out today! Good morning Gentlemen, Yes I will bag paper instead of plastic so you can pollute the planet. That will make the difference.", "\"we were doing a great job at making people's lives comfortable until we killed the planet, oopsie. If you wanted a future for your children you shouldn't have bought our cheap, slave-labor made products, duh\"", "Aren't you doing exactly what the video talks about? No, obviously it should be the producers responsibility to not kill the planet while making products. Then when people want to enact legislature to limit the damage manufacturers can do to the environment, they lobby to get their way. Big corporations will always act as shitty as they can, they'll lie, hide evidence, train brutal corporate sponsored dictators around the world, all for more profit. Stop being a shill.", "The planet won’t be “killed”. You get that right? You understand that technological advancements mean we’re living longer and healthier lives than ever right?\n\nYour children will be just fine. They’ll live longer than you do. \n\nSo no. The world isn’t going to end. Despite how desperate you are to believe it.\n\n(How ignorant must you be to think humanity will just roll over and die. Humans adapt through technology. Traumatising impressionable children with lies that they have no future is absolute ghoulish behaviour)", "Thanks for the inspiring words, Bezos. I really get a sense of your care for the planet when I inhale a small city’s worth of exhaust watching brand new gasoline-powered Amazon trucks stream out of the local distro center.", "When you build a product, you need to take i to account how people will use it, and that's why backend engineers don't design the user interface for customer facing products. \n\n\"The consumer\" is not a single, unified entity. They're hardly unified at all, and you can't blame someone for buying a cheaper plastic option when glass is far more expensive because companies produce most of their items with plastic. You personally can't stop a company from mining cobalt with child labor, but you also can't survive well in modern society without electronics. \n\nCompanies, on the other hand, are organized and do wield significant power, which they often use to further their own influence by creating consumer ecosystems at the expense of everything but profit. \n\nOil companies suppressed climate change information, cigarette companies suppressed cancer studies, plastics manufacturers put the recyclable symbol on items you can't recycle to make consumers think plastic isn't as big a deal. They lobby the government, and produce 70% of the pollution and waste. Facebook and companies use algorithms, psychology, and supercomputers to game our behavior, especially our addictive behavior. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.\n\nWe can absolutely blame companies, but moreover, we can also blame our governments for allowing these companies to exploit their customers, their societies, the environment, the ecosystems which support us all, and humanity as a whole.\n\nConsumers can't organize into the \"free hand of the market\" like people think. There's so many more factors at play. Realizing this weakness, we often make organizations to deal with these issues, but they are failing us.", ">If you dont buy it, ~~they don't make it.~~ They will buy out what you do and molest it into a shadow of itself\n\nMoney moves mountains. \n\n\nI feel that people who profit should be more at blame than those who consume.", "Common sense does not exist. Stop using this stupid catchphrase to validate your own beliefs.", "“Common sense” is the ability to apply critical thought against an emotional response. \n\nWant to guess which category your comment falls under?", "Corporations are entities designed to generate profits, not to do what is best for the environment, worker happiness/health, etc. The only way corporations will make choices that are better for the environment is if government regulations like carbon taxes exist, along with high import tariffs against countries which don't implement similar taxes.\n\nCarbon taxes alone just cause corporations to relocate production to other countries where goods can be produced cheaper.\n\nCarbon emissions are and always will be up to the voters to fix, a business will go broke trying to do the right thing because they'll just be undercut by other corporations who are able to produce cheaper/higher quality goods by ignoring externalities like co2 emissions.", "Is your assertion that we'll innovate our way out of [this](https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3xw3x/new-research-vindicates-1972-mit-prediction-that-society-will-collapse-soon) and [this](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/why-insect-populations-are-plummeting-and-why-it-matters)? Maybe, maybe not. Either way, your stance seems entirely based on emotion.", "> The only way corporations will make choices that are better for the environment is if government regulations like carbon taxes exist\n\nNot necessarily. Economic incentives are just one out of many possible incentives to persuade businesses that the cost is higher than the benefit.\n\nImagine if a charismatic politician rose out of a period of socio-economic-political disenfranchisement (due to a rapidly worsening environment) and seizes absolute power in the process with popular support, and then proceeds to literally brand the biggest polluters as enemies of the people and instigate nation-wide lynchings. The persecution gets more and more terrifying and concludes with entire extended families of whoever having had connections to these corporations being branded as \"impure for Earth\" and cleansed.\n\nNow that's a movie plot that hasn't been made yet!", "Yeah, this is a horrendous take likely coming from a grifter, but a lot of stupid people unironically believe this because they are told the free market solves all problems.\n\nThere are some things we simply don't have the ability to protest with our wallets as they are essential: food, housing, healthcare. Even if it's something non-essential that we do have the ability to protest, it's a grifter argument that puts all the blame on the consumer because they know the public will never be outraged and coordinated enough to force them to change. It's the same reason shitty game companies like EA continue to treat their customers like shit and implement pedatory monitization; because it's profitable and the outrage ultimately doesn't matter to them.", "Same reason why America went from glass bottles and recycling to plastic bottles and plastic bags 50 -70 years ago. The gullibility of the American people is the problem.", "Yes. We will innovate our way out of far worse things than a decrease in butterflies. \n\nAnd no. My assertion isn’t based on emotion. It’s based on the past 2,000 years of humanity. \n\nWe don’t live in caves anymore because humans ARE incredibly innovate and able to adapt. \n\nClimate change is real. But no… the world isn’t going to end. Technological advances mean life will only get better for everyone.", "And what are the exact criteria for \"critical thought\" as opposed to an \"emotional response\"? To take an extreme example to make my point clear: A Nazi would justify attacking foreigners as \"common sense\" because to him, these people pose a threat and in his eyes, it is the logical thought to attack them. Whereas I think that attacking fascist beliefs is necessary and thus, by your definition \"common sense\". But both of these beliefs are a contradiction. Therefore, \"common sense\" is just completely subjective and not common at all.", "Nazis? \n\nDude. No. Just….. no.", "You know what an example is and which function it has, right?", "That you'd reduce the beginning of the collapse of the food chain to \"a decrease in butterflies\" is telling. I get it, you have faith in humanity. It may be misplaced; we have our limitations. And in any case, faith is not an argument.", "Good point, I'll tell my kids that. \"Yeah we really fucked over the planet to maximize profits for the ultra wealthy, but don't worry, you'll innovate your way out of it.\"", "Look. To use your inane example. Both instances apply the same principle of common sense. Self preservation from one’s enemies. That’s the underlying principal. \n\nThe semantics change through perception. \n\nGet it now?", "Stop trying to preach to me like I'm some child. I can obviously tell you're ignorant to the current risks our planet faces. Things like biodiversity loss, rising temperatures, increased disasters, PLASTIC EVERYWHERE. \n\nyour assumption that we can science our way out is pretty ignorant. There is a possibility that were too far gone to fix. Also, what if it costs too much, huh, whose going to fix our planet if we rely on big corporations, it's not going to make them any money.\n\nHow ignorant you must be to think that humans will look out for each other rather than chase profits. You think of me as ghoulish, yet what would you say to oil executives or the mega rich, whose goal is to milk the planet dry for their own benefit?", "If you were a decent parent that’s what you would say. Instead of traumatising them.", "A grifter is someone who tries to provoke an emotional response instead of making a good faith argument. That's the category your comments fall under.", "Lol “plastic everywhere”. \n\nHilarious. Meanwhile people in developing nations (such as Indonesia) no longer die before they’re 50. \n\nBut sure, go off at how the world is doomed.", "Yes, and I got it before, thank you. My point is that when even a Nazi can use \"common sense\" to justify their actions, then \"common sense\" is maybe just a pretty shit indicator for what is the right thing to do. \n\nI'll give you a couple of more examples from the German wikipedia about \"common sense\" (it's a rough DeepL translation):\n\n\"Since human thinking is characterised by cognitive distortions, faulty conclusions and individual or cultural experiences (so-called internal institutions), the existence of a \"common sense\" is also denied. It is pointed out that humans are fallible beings, and therefore also prone to irrational thinking.\n\nEven experiences and assumptions that are made universally can be interpreted differently:\n\n* the assumption that people see by light from their eyes scanning the environment\n\n* the assumption that the earth is flat\n \n* the assumption that the Earth has a greater gravitational pull on the Moon than the Moon has on the Earth\n* conspiracy theories.\n\nThe \"common sense argument\" is based on the assumption that a person's intuition provides more reliable results than analytical thinking using mathematics, logic or scientific disciplines. However, this is a false assumption, as the human mind is prone to error and facts cannot be grasped correctly intuitively.\"\n\nGet it now?", "The time I've spent drafting why this video is bullshit just gave me a headache I give up. Money isn't going to solve climate change, period. You need two things to solve the majority of climate change:\n\n* Smart people. We need orders of magnitude more engineers. \n* Unlimited free energy from the Sun and a place to store it.\n\nMoney will not solve this, thinking it will is ignorant. The first trillionaire will be the one that solves the above.", "Nothing about my comment was emotional. These companies do make our lives more comfortable. And people do complain about them despite enjoying the benefits they provide. \n\nFind the lie.", "Yes. Interpretations differ upon an individuals perspective. The underlying principals remain. \n\nNot sure what point you’re trying to make. I already said the same thing (far more succinctly).", "My point is, as I already said in my very first comment, that common sense does not exist because it can be used to justify absolutely anything, which makes it entirely subjective. I would also completely disagree with you that the comment you were initially replying to is \"common sense\". Since I think that corporations are very much the main part of the problem. So, in your own subjective view it is \"common sense\", in my view it isn't. Which neutral institution could now decide whether it is actually common sense? Right, nobody. \n\nIn the end, I just want to invite you to think about your language and try to stay away from dogmatic phrases like \"common sense\". For instance, using \"reasonable\" would be much better.", "Getting smart people to work on solving this issue vs. working something else is where money becomes important. Capital allocation at a large scale does help solve problems. Take solar energy for instance, there is no profitable way to work on improving efficiency of solar panels and building a solar/renewable grid while burning coal is 100x cheaper today. So, to think long term, and to execute for the long term benefit, you need to allocate free capital towards that. And that's where throwing money at a problem helps.\n\nAn example where this is currently working and causing a tidal shift in the status quo: Electric cars. A lot of people, both private investors and public investors threw a lot of their money at Tesla to change the profit equation, and you can see the entire industry getting flipped upside down, wherein instead of building an EV being a failing endeavor, it is now a must for you to build an EV if you want to exist as a company.", "That's now how business works. \n\n>Aren't you doing exactly what the video talks about? No, obviously it should be the producers responsibility to not kill the planet while making products.\n\nTwo gas stations sell soda. One has the shitty paper straws that fall apart after 2 minutes, the other one has thick plastic straws that are excellent to sit around for decades. Consumers will always choose the better experience. Maybe not you, and 3 other people, but everyone else will choose the plastic straws. \n\nUntil products are made that are superior to plastic from a cost and usability standpoint, this will never change. Now if you own the plastic straw business, are you going to create paper straws because its ethical? Hell no, you have a business to run and families to feed. You'll have a lot less gas stations to sell to. Do you have the cash to hire the worlds smartest people to develop a new material that is competitive to plastic and lasts long enough that consumers don't know the difference and the cost is the same or better than plastic? No. Then you'll stick with plastic. Without an incentive structure, nothing will change.", "I disagree. Common sense does exist. It’s the application of critical thought over an emotional response. \n\nIt’s present in basic principals (like the preservation of self). The application of these principals is subjective though (perception is reality etc etc).\n\nThanks for the conversation.", "And I would still argue that critical thought is again, subjective. But I see, I won't change your opinion as you won't change mine. Have a good one!", "Yeah, I didn't say either of those things.\n\nAnd people can certainly complain about companies even if they provide benefits, those things aren't mutually exclusive. In fact there are many large companies that provide benefits and also negatively impact others at the same time. Amazon gives me free two-day delivery but the also treats it's employees like garbage and prvoides so little break time that they have to piss in bottles.", "Lol. It gives them a job dude.\n\nCute that you ignore the most important point.\n\n“Yeah they give me two day shipping. Yeah they employ millions. But there’s a dude who has more money than me (despite me already being more privileged than 70% of the planet) and that annoys me.“\n\nTry tapping that out on your iPhone instead.", "The answer is to stop consuming", "You and I are both doing the same thing. Making educated predictions. \n\nIt’s ok if you disagree with me. But my faith is the counter to your pessimism. We’re on equal footing when it comes to intellectual integrity." ]	41	videos	How Big Corporations Shift Blames of Carbon Emission & Climate Change To You
https://youtu.be/-oIWsnupqoQ	/r/videos/comments/rg9r21/so_which_one_is_bigger/	[ "Ok, I'm stumped.", "Yeah the side by side like that tripped me out the first time I saw it and I did a double take. Then put them profile to profile and called myself an idiot.", "Lol they’re the same size, but the front curved side is shorter than the rear side so when one is behind the other they appear to be different sizes" ]	3	videos	So which one is bigger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVAcRH9b44w	/r/videos/comments/rg9vgl/they_live_1988_roddy_piper_scene_nada_puts_on_the/	[ "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass.", "The older I get the more I appreciate this scene more. \n\nIt's distressing how pervasive advertising is when you stop to think about it. \n\nDoes art imitate life or does life imitate art?", "They should call them religious shades.", "\"Marry and reproduce\"\n\nImagine finding out that today's overlords are more evil than the super villain aliens from the movies.", "Many of the problems we have now also existed in the 80s. Just that when you're a kid you don't really know about the problems in society. When you're an adult, you start to notice these things and it seems like these are new problems, and those old movies seem like they were predicting the future. But really they were just making commentary on the problems that existed in the 80s which are still ongoing today.", "What he's seeing are Democrats.", "Username checks out.", "Qualify this statement.", "Watch me trigger a snowflake!\n\nMasks help prevent the spread of disease. \n\nCovid is real. \n\nRepublican economic polices harm the middle class.", "We almost expected your kind to show up scream encouragement to \"Brandon\" and disappear back under your rock. Nice of you to show off how diverse you are by saying something new! Oh, wait, this is what was said years ago.\n\nI wish you were good at something, anything, so you wouldn't feel so weak all the time. Hopefully this year you see how to be something besides yourself and get to spend time with someone other than your CP inspired waifus. Good luck!", "Joe Biden is a good president!", "You are clearly a lunatic. It's almost comical.", "capitalism glasses more like it", "should include racist as well though. Have a look at the titles he's posted.", "Close, but no cigar, they are ideology shades. This is one of the movies analyzed by Slavoj Zizek in The pervert's guide to cinema.", "This is one of the \"Matrix before the Matrix\" movies, and IMHO, it's one of the best. \nJohn Carpenter was making a B-movie with a silly premise, and stumbled upon one of the most profound discourses for the following years. \n\n\nWatch Slavoj Zizek's discussion on \"The Pervert's Guide to Cinema\"", "Before you watch this clip, here's an ad. Also, during the entire clip: Now on Blu-ray & DVD!", "... and I'm all out of ass. \n\n[After an intense 40 minute long bubblegum chewing scene the end credits roll]", "I utterly despise advertising in all its forms. How billboards are legal is beyond me. The obnoxious vapidness of pseudo witty commercials makes me want to throw stuff at my TV. The insipid, cynical attempts at emotional manipulation by putting piano music and a serious sounding voice over about high minded ideals over footage of a car driving around or some insurance salesman closing a deal are even worse. If I never see another commercial telling me that we're all in this pandemic together so I should buy their sugar water, I'd die happy.", "Did they ever explicitly state they were evil? Been awhile since I've seen the movie, but I thought they basically just wanted to come here and coexist. I guess the whole subliminal messages and such indicates otherwise. But hey, along the lines of your thinking, maybe having the aliens as our corporate overlords wouldn't have been as bad as the current crop of oligarchs and tech monopolies.", "makes you think", "How weird do people have to be to come and comment something like this? I’m so confused when people decided political affiliation was going to be their chief personality trait.", "https://youtu.be/-KIDDnNmiSw", "I feel like there's an irony here with this video opening up with an Ad.", "r/whoosh", "One of the best movies ever made. It's insane how good John Carpenter movies were.", "How do we know, he is not constantly twitting about how great he is and how everyone is saying he is the best at things. Also the media is not reporting on him every day on what he said about how great he is on twitter.\n\nIt's almost like Biden is doing his job and not trying to pretend that he is great. Thank fuck for that :)", "THIS is how you do satire, people!", "It's subliminal messaging the only art is that they have mastered it. CIA was working on shit openly for a long time hell even look into operation mockingbird they used it in mass media.. and still are.", "This is an absolute classic. One of my favorite films from this era.", "[Here is the view of the long shot in black in white with all of the billboards.](https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0573191,-118.2521337,3a,60y,210.66h,94.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSV7PgJ19F_Q1SH6ss4iDHw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)\n\n[And here is where he is standing in 2009, as they recently redid the facade.](https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0465191,-118.255363,3a,75y,81.09h,90.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKR4-pCAiRGAP2MXPQLbFsg!2e0!5s20160801T000000!7i13312!8i6656)\n\nFun fact, there is an eyeglass store on the corner where he looks at the magazines now!", "\"You? You're ok. This one? Real fuckin' ugly!\"", "Yeah, they are inducing global warming to make Earth more like their planet and depleting natural resources.", "Is it really about advertising or just any boogieman you hate?", "pieces of the Q anon conspiracy theory was taken from this movies", "I find this laughable. Our overlords are just idiots adept at hoarding the resources that keep them our overlords. Its easier to recognize this behavior when observing another country like Russia, but its the same thing here as well. >!Stay asleep!<", "It's honestly an excellent movie with a great premise and one of the best fight scenes in a movie. But it also gave us [this edit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEONU-eGrI4) and I think about it any time I watch this movie", "For the most part, art imitates life.... Except when it comes to satire, then it seems life imitates art. Which is the really disturbing part.", "Here's quote you might relate to -\n\n\"People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your \nlife, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from \n tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments \nfrom buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is \nhappening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel \ninadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the \nworld has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers \n and they are laughing at you.\n\nYou, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual \nproperty rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they \nlike wherever they like with total impunity.\n\nFuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice \nwhether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and \nre-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is \nlike asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.\n\nYou owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially \ndon’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the \nworld to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your \npermission, don’t even start asking for theirs.\"\n\n– Banksy", "Particularly love Zizek's take on the unusually drawn out fight scene between characters Nada and Frank Armitage.", "I do. I dig it, thanks", "I didn't watch the movie, I'm just confused: if aliens came here to conquer us, why only they can see their propaganda? But we can do whatever we want? Shouldn't they do exactly the opposite (like e.g. in Captive State)?", "I’ve never seen that before 🤣😂😆", "Fun fact, They Live came out the same week as Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent, which is kinda funny since They Live is basically Manufacturing Consent the movie.", "It's more about the seemingly overwhelming pressure to buy shit in America. \n\nIt reminds of me of an epiphany I had walking through the mall one day where I felt like the zombies in the 70's Dawn of the Dead. Shambling around the mall looking to buy something without thinking why I wanted it or needed it." ]	45	videos	They Live (1988) Roddy Piper scene - Nada puts on the glasses and starts seeing the hidden messages "Obey! Marry and Reproduce! Consume! Stay Asleep! Do Not Question Authority!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUJYP8tnRE&ab_channel=Kurzgesagt%E2%80%93InaNutshell	/r/videos/comments/rga11g/why_we_should_not_look_for_aliens_the_dark_forest/	[ "Why? They are already looking for us. Why make it easier for them to annihilate us?", "I think the scariest thing about the dark forest is that it feels almost unavoidable. \n\nIf we broadcast ourselves and stumble into 1 other civilization, we can't know if they'll respond belligerently or peacefully, and they'll have the same dilemma. However, if life isn't rare, it's very likely out of the multitudes that heard our broadcast, at least one single civ has settled on the idea of safety through first strike. \n\nAnd we'll both be annihilated by someone out there regardless of our respective intentions. So the optimal strategy - actually the only path to self-preservation - seems to be hide or murder. With the level of violence we'd be capable of visiting upon each other, the only way peaceful contact seems safe is if one species is so far beyond the other technologically that they invalidate the strategy, or if somehow every single species out there can be guaranteed to respond peacefully. Which is an unstable equilibrium - we can't even guarantee that about ourselves.\n\nAnd every species with planet-ending tech that is faced with this dilemma will have to confront this same calculation. Existentially terrifying.", "Way to anthropomorphize alien species with all of the worst human traits. Whoever came up with the dark forest theory needs to lay off the sci-fi action stories. These are species we know absolutely zero about (if they even exist) and we are already ascribing all of them pretty specific Cold War mentalities.", "> Whoever came up with the dark forest theory needs to lay off the sci-fi action stories.\n\nIt's literally based on a sci-fi story that has it as a theme so... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Forest", "What are the human traits that it is anthropomorphizing?" ]	5	videos	Why We Should NOT Look For Aliens - The Dark Forest
https://youtu.be/uCHYZ8air44	/r/videos/comments/rga83g/when_youre_sharing_music_from_your_phone_with/	[ "Dif-different Keegan…", "I love it when Keegan is fully committed after a bit and commands him not to touch it lmao. These guys are geniuses.", "Why post a reupload.", "Reuploading the video does not help more people see it. You can just link the original upload.", "Right. But I never said anything about reposting on reddit." ]	6	videos	When you're sharing music from your phone with friends..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6tgmGqXysM	/r/videos/comments/rgabaz/deadliest_road_in_america_vs_tesla_selfdriving/	[ "Clearly a green screen job. You can see his hands cut off when he points to something in the road at the beginning of the run.", "It's just footage from two cameras overlaid onto the same frame. The exterior camera had a much better view of the road than the interior camera.", "Calling it the deadliest road is a bit of a stretch. The reason it's supposed to be deadly is because of thrill seekers speeding and racing on the winding curves. Unless he encountered that scenario, it's honestly a really safe road to drive if you stick to the speed limits. The visibility is ideal, the road markings are in pristine condition and the traffic is quite low. \n\nLike he mentions, often the car does stray over into to other lane while making left turns and a couple of times on complete blind turns which isn't safe. Also, he's paying attention to step in if the car misjudged something but many Tesla owners don't.", "The voiceover and text on screen turned me off completely. Couldn’t even make it a minute in…", "Mhm yeah", "It’s not a green screen…it’s the edge of a pentooled mask", "Ya pretty lame. I wanna see it drive your average inner city road with completely worn out lines, pot holes and construction everywhere, and shiity drivers with no turn signals all while you try to merge into the on ramp 3 lanes over.", "Yeah, bring it to STL, we use sidewalk chalk for the lines so it's more of an adventure when it rains and you try to see lane markings.", "Yeah, if I was going to vouch for a deadlier roadway in the US it would definitely be on the west coast, one of the smaller highways in the mountains.", "Why would they fake this? Especially in such a blatantly obvious way? If he made some kind of effort to hide the editing then fine, but he didnt", "yeah there's deadlier roads than this a mile from my apartment", "Yeah, it didn't look notably scarier than any other mountain road. It's lines were so well maintained that possibly less scary. Compare that to any not well maintained highway at night in the rain and I'd much rather be riding the Dragon.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jb-YJWFN-w&list=PL0lACHv09kByIQXHGRlaDaYAo44ajp2Z5&t=1s\n\nDaytime drive somewhere in the Milwaukee area. This particular video isn't showing the very latest version of the beta, but it's still pretty recent.", "There countless roads all over the US more dangerous than this one. Don’t know what the guy was going on about.", "it has that name because it's a twisty road that drivers like to drive fast on. Businesses have built on that making it more of a tourist designation than anything.", "So great video \n\nbut this is straight up Tesla PR team, sponsorship money via CGP right?\n\nI just get pissy when an advert pretends it's not", "She? 🤦‍♂️", "Ive seen computer systems break in stupid ways, why do people entrust their life to them. Planes can fly themselves but takeoffs/landings and emergency situations are handled by the trained human. Obviously pilot training is more involved than car training, but to me thats an argument for better training and possibly refresher courses for car licences." ]	18	videos	Deadliest Road in America vs Tesla Self-Driving Beta \| CGP Grey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8VuWhvk87o	/r/videos/comments/rgakfu/nicolas_cage_plays_nicolas_cage_in_the_unbearable/	[ "An interesting sequel to Adaptation.", "I do like the fact that he is able to poke fun at himself and his image.\n\nLooks like it could be fun. It is the way.", "His movies tend to be hit or miss: all leading to this colossal bullseye. :D", ">Nicolas Cage stars as... Nick Cage in the action-comedy The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. Creatively unfulfilled and facing financial ruin, the fictionalized version of Cage must accept a $1 million offer to attend the birthday of a dangerous superfan (Pedro Pascal). Things take a wildly unexpected turn when Cage is recruited by a CIA operative (Tiffany Haddish) and forced to live up to his own legend, channeling his most iconic and beloved on-screen characters in order to save himself and his loved ones. With a career built for this very moment, the seminal award-winning actor must take on the role of a lifetime: Nick Cage.\n\nSo, Nicolas Cage plays Nicolas Cage who has to channel his inner Nicolas Cage.\n\nPerfection.", "Every time I see a new Nic Cage movie announcement I add it to my watchlist and then never watch it. I can't stop though. One day I'll have a Cage-a-thon", "This is giving me Being John Malkovich but cringey.\n\nEdit: ok I get it you guys, my comment is very disrespectful to Being John Malkovich and I’m sorry.", "So this is what Mando is going through after sending Grogu with Luke to Jedi school.", "If someone asks you what it means to \"lean into\" something, you show them this trailer.", "I sincerely have never felt such a mix of love and fear in viewing a movie trailer.", "I dunno. I'm not sure I really understand the casting here. Don't think Cage has the range to pull this off.", "Nick Cage is trying to do a Jean-Claude Van Damme", "I kinda thought Adaptation but you're probably more right.", "More like \n\n>The film establishes Jean-Claude van Damme playing himself as an out-of-luck actor. He is out of money; his agent cannot find him a decent production; and the judge in a custody battle is inclined to give custody of his daughter over to his ex-wife. His own daughter rejects him as a father, much to his chagrin. He returns to his childhood home of Schaarbeek in the Brussels capital region, Belgium, where he is still considered a national icon.\n\n\n\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JCVD_(film)", "Wow. You son-of-a-bitch, I’m in", "/r/OneTrueGod since nobody else mentioned it.", "This man is a National Treasure", "Looks hilarious", "Consider me on board.", "Nicolas cage extended universe confirmed.", "If you rank all the movies as you watch it's a Cage Match.", "Before you sit down to watch the movies you need to stand at the doorway of the room, warming up your shoulders and neck muscles, like a WWE wrestler about to enter a cage match.", "Cage proving that if you pull the lever enough times you'll eventually win the jackpot", "Yeah, it's just like when the kid in The Sixth Sense revealed Bruce Willis was actually dead the whole time.", "How far back is Lord of War? That was a good one.", "Ooh yes. imagine a sci-fi movie where all of cage’s previous movie characters get tossed into a plot together and then end up back into the wrong movie for further multiuniversal cage antics .. I’d be 1000% on board.", "[Satire becoming reality?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM)", "There have been some bangers the last few years though! Pig, Mandy, hell even Wally’s Wonderland is a camp horror masterpiece", "Looks like a fun streaming movie. Is it VOD or going to a platform?", "It's Being John Malkovich but with the worst actor of all time.", "As a big fan of Nick Cage, I’m delighted.", "I usually say that Cage ruins movies like Peggy Sue Got Married, but he cannot ruin this movie. It's rotten from the get go.", "First Pig and now this? Nic you're on fire! Again!", "This is like the Nick Cage version of Being John Malkovich.\n\nEDIT: Friends, I have had 40+ replies in my inbox saying it is more like Adaption/JVCD.", "Guessing you didn’t watch any of them?", "Put Between worlds at the top of that list and strap in.", "It would be some 4D chess if his entire career was a deliberate strategy to lead up to this single movie.", "Maybe we get a team up sequel", "It’s the long con.", "Pig was actually very good if you haven't seen that one. It's like John Wick without the violence, which isn't a glowing endorsement....but still it's good!", "Hey now, Pig was good!", "Malkovich?", "Cage has been doing some great films his whole career. He just does so many a lot get lost in the mix. His last few films have been very good. Pig is fantastic.", "Still one of his best films. It's a masterpiece.", "Nic Cage is a fantastic actor when he needs to be tbh, people just always hire him to play Nic Cage", "I wonder, how did he prepare for this role? How did he get inside the character's head?", "If by rotten, you mean fantastic...", "This reminded me that it'd been too long since my last viewing of [this masterpiece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zySHepF04c).", "You gotta give it to him : the man knows his audience.\n\nAnd if he manages to touch greatness like Jean-Claude Van Damme did in JCVD (the confession scene was amazing), this could be phenomenal!", "Literally an Oscar winning actor..", "BP", "Her was literally born for this role.", "This sounds great, but\n\n> Creatively unfulfilled and facing financial ruin, \n\n>fictionalized\n\n...did anyone tell him?", "This looks genuinely great.", "Yeah I was curious if this was by the same writer... but it looks like it's not. \n\n\nBut I think I'm totally in to see this anyway.", "This looks amazing", "I'm giving this a movie a 9/10.\n\nYes I know it's not out. But considering that fact.\n\n10/10.", "Nic Cage isn’t a bad actor. He’s a quantum superposition of amazing and terrible acting.", "Yeah, honestly I feel like Nicholas Cage is really killing it recently. He seems to really excel in movies with bizarre plots where he can really let loose and give kind of a crazy, unhinged performance. Mandy was a wild ride, and I also really liked The Color Out of Space.", "The movie, Pig, blew me away. I expected Nicolas Cage quality and ended up getting the GOOD Nicolas Cage quality. You know what I mean?", "Ok I usually hate seeing trailers promoted on this subreddit but holy SHIT I want to watch that movie.", "The writer / director co-produced Movie 43 so I'm a little hesitant...", "The long con-air!\n\nAlright I'll leave...", "amazing talent", "And God help you if you use voice-over in your work, my friends. God help you! That's flaccid, sloppy writing. Any idiot can write voice-over narration to explain the thoughts of the character.", "Holy shit.... finally.", "I want people camping out in front of the theater for this. Ironically or unironically just make it happen.", "Meme potential is high.", "Which is funny because he played Charlie Kaufman (and his fictional brother, Donald) in the 2002 movie Adaptation. And Charlie Kaufman of course wrote the screenplay for Being John Malkovitch* (and Adaptation, with Spike Jonze on both) which is referenced multiple times in Adaptation, and there is even a scene where Nicolas Cage as Charlie (and Donald) visits the Being John Malkovitch set during the filming of the infamous scene where John Malkovitch enters his own mind.", "We over at /r/onetruegod are celebrations since 24h!!", "Nice Matchstick Men reference..", "I'M IN.", "If you wanna see some Nick Cage + Charlie Kaufman, Adaptation is a phenomenal movie. Nick Cage plays Charlie Kaufman writing the movie that he's starring in. And that's not even mentioning the fact that he plays a fictional twin brother of Charlie as well.", "This is Nicolas Cage's John Wick, and I assume ~~if it does well~~, we will see more Nicolas Cage movies, in the future.", "His toughest role yet", "That one got me good. He was amazing, the whole film was beautiful.", "Nic Cage did star in a movie written by Charlie Kaufman--Adaptation. He doesn't play Nic Cage though, he plays Charlie Kaufman. It was also directed by Spike Jonze, who also directed Being John Malkovich.", "Disney buys Nicolas Cage franchise for $8 billion.", "It better have a \"not the bees\" scene", "This looks like a stupidly fun movie", "I really hope it gets nominated for an oscar or two, it was amazing", "cage is an incredible actor who never says no to a role. He's always good even if the films he's in aren't.\n\nThat being said, his most recent run where he's been doing more independent films is probably some of the best work of his career.", "More like JCVD", "He better retire after this lol", "What an ignorant statement", "Woosh or something", "She was!?", "God that looks good", "\"What have you got there?\"\n\n\"Divine inspiration.\"\n\nIs Pedro Pascal offering him a DMT pen?", "every time i see nic cage more and more he needs to play John McAffee", "NGL, I wanna see this.", "is it a documentary or meta comedy?", "I’m a dude playing a dude disguised as the same dude.", "I'm a big fan of BJM but I had no clue about its association with Adaptation. I have to check it out now, thanks!", ">a dangerous super fan (Pedro Pascal)\n\nOkay this is where I lost it", "This feels like a modern version of Being John Malkovich.", "She was!", "Wait… Is this movie going to feature Nic Cage on DMT?\n\nThat’ll be a ride.", "[Nicolas Cage's Agent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM)", "Black Pink!", "This looked meh till I saw Pedro was in this. I’m in.", "So it goes even deeper. \n\nInsert Hans Zimmer 'bwaann'", "It's like a chicken omlette.", "I was completely on board until the last scene.", "I think it's interesting that Cage seems to not like this movie. He has indicated this in interviews", "Jesus Christ, Very Dead?", "Rickolas cage", "True, even more funny if he actually makes this movie because he really needs money irl.", "Best movie on Hulu right now!", "While I do agree that Nic is a great actor, the first Suicide Squad movie is an Oscar winner.", "Pig is easily one of the films of the year. It's near perfection.", "That's high praise", "https://youtu.be/piB8HgLcX7g", "This movie is going to Rock!", "This is actually the perfect role for him to play. Himself.", "I know Cage and Willem Dafoe sounds like a dream team, but don’t. Just don’t.", "I realize I jumped the gun with my comment and it belonged here:\nRickolas Cage", "Do not binge Nicholas Cage! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo\\_Uu8M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo_Uu8M)", "like at least 15 haha", "JCVDNC confirmed!", "Pretty close to the plot of Jean Claude Van Johnson, which is a great watch.", "Which came first, the chicken or the chicken omelette?", "This looks terrible. I’m in.", "The Oscar for best actor, best supporting actor, best actress, and best supporting actress go to\n\nNic cage", "Bloody hell. I can't wait to see this. I don't even care if it's good or not (which, to be honest, is a line that's often blurred in Nic's movies).", "Trailer checks out, The guy does spend 20k a month on wine.", "My favorite actor. This looks awesome.", "Ok it looks good and has some big names I like, but it's a nick cage movie can it be good?", "Hollywood be trippin man", "Okay this is not going to help Abed at all.", "This is like the Nick Cage version of Cats.", "My favourite conspiracy is that Nicolas Cage is actually 2 actors who are identical twins, one who is a great actor and one who is mediocre.\n\nIt why his movies are always great or meh.\n\nMaybe this movie will be the great reveal, lmao.", "That would mean he has to be really bad with money. Possible.", "Jean-Claude Van Johnson was amazing if anyone wants to see this movie before april. \n\nhighly recommend it\n\n\n5/7 perfect score!", "At least Nicholas cage wouldn't have edited buttholes in post-production to every cat.", "You tried, but I would 100% watch that unless they censor the buttholes.", "I hope they don't edit out his butt hole", "I love the idea, but I’m worried this one isn’t gonna land. It’s almost like the fun of wondering about what’s going on in Cage’s head will no longer be a mystery. He seems a bit too normal in these few clips. His best characters are out of their goddamn minds. Nonetheless, I’m gonna try really hard to love this movie 🤩", "Watch Mandy.", "I wish I knew what Nice Cage flicks to binge before seeing this.", "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL\n\nI GOTTA SEE THIS", "If they release the butthole cut edition, I'm in!!", "Easy, chicken omelette was created ex nihilo.", "Spoken like someone who hasn't seen Mandy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI054ow6KJk", "Charlie Kauffman and Nic Cage should work together a LOT more.", "The only way this could get better is if Brendan Fraser also guest stars as Brendan Fraser.", "Prepare for more meta than the human mind can handle.", "When he disassembles that chefs whole life in three sentences... 100% pure Nic Cage.\n\nEdit- I think that last scene when Mr Mann tastes the wine, he's got some damn fine acting chops too.\n\n100% believed it. Gave me chills.", "> but cringey.\n\nAlright, internet people: It's time to start expanding your vocabulary. There are even free resources online that can teach you new words. Try it out and then try to not use \"cringe\" or any derivation thereof for the next.... hmmm, let's seeeee.... TWO THOUSAND FUCKING YEARS.", "That was a bad movie, couldn't get past the first 30 minutes. Turned it off, 2/10 would not recommend", "If it's consistently chuckle-worthy, I'll be very happy.", "They really made a movie out of that one College Humor skit about Nicolas Cage lmao", "That would make a great voice over.", "One day we will find out the movie was written for Wesley Snipes.", "Nick Cage nesting doll", "Do you need to have read \"The Orchid Thief\" or be familiar with its subject matter to understand and enjoy this film? It sounds interesting.", "Lmao at the wall scene at the end.", "Not at all. I had no idea about the book or the subject matter before seeing the movie and I really enjoyed it.", "I'm so going to watch it!!!", "You had me at \"This is like the Nick Cage version of Cats\".", "Thanks :)", "It's best watched twice, back to back.", "He really is the the rock of the film industry", "I dunno, I think he makes a pretty good Neil Patrick Harris.", "Holy shit, movie of the year.", "Just to be clear, based on the other comments, you're talking about the movie or Nic Cage's butthole?", "He is.\n\nCage is notorious for spending massive amount of money on stupid shit and then not paying his taxes.\n\nWhich is why his movies kinda went to shit for a while there because he had to say yes to everything for the money instead of waiting for good roles.", "[More than possible](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/19/how-nicholas-cage-once-blew-his-entire-150-million-fortune.html)", "He was always on fire!", "Mandy and Color Out of Space were fucking awesome, what movies were you watching?", "To be fair, at least he has no writing or directing credits on that.\n\nThe last thing he's credited for is creating \"Ghosted\", so that gives me a bit more faith.", "Rumor is he makes movies because it is (and has been for a long time) primarily a vehicle to launder Russian money.\n\nBruce Willis is really bad with money and has no choice but to make shitty movies.", "Pretty sure I read that he settled all the debt a while ago. He just does so many movies because he truly does love acting(and money). Doesn't matter what kind of movie it is, he just takes roles that challenge him in some way.", "I'm a caat. I'm a sexy caat.", "Nick Cage tooting his own horn by acting as himself in a movie about him having massive talent is so absolutely Nick Cage.", "JCVD is one of the best things I've ever seen. And I have eyes, so I've seen a lot.", "No he isn't.", "You got the wrong Kaufman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kaufman", "My bad, I was thinking of Andy.", "Desktop version of /u/trevour's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kaufman>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Nic* but yes.", "Charlie Kaufman is very much alive.\n\nEdit: I like that your edit still sounds like you’re correcting me…", "The wall part got me, can't lie.", "So basically, the opening scene is the same except for going to some guy’s party, he has to do this movie. I wish it was just him doing the movie instead, and the rest of the movie was him filming the movie of doing the movie.", "Abed would have loved this", "We need 3 Nicolas Cages in Sector 4 and we need 2 Nicolas Cages in sector 6!", ">It's Being John Malkovich but with the worst actor of all time.\n\nTell me you have no taste without telling me you have no taste!\n\nHe's got chops, as shown in films like Leaving Las Vegas, but that's not important here.\n\nHe's not bad, he's arguably not great, but he is very much Nic Cage. And that's what's important. He's a fascinating character.", "I hate that anything that has Nic Cage automatically gets a pass even if its mediocre...\n\nI can't wait to watch this movie", "What an odd mash up for a fake movie trailer.\n\n......", "that hair piece thouugggghhhhh", "You kidding? It absolutely would have buttholes", "THE FLEAS!", "Not at all! I haven't read the book and it's one of my favorite movies. It's already a very layered, self-aware movie, and I imagine reading the book would add some more layers to appreciate.", "The man has a filmography that is peppered with great movies. Leaving Las Vegas, Vampires Kiss, Wild at Heart, Raising Arizona, The Rock, 8MM, Adaptation, Matchstick men, Lord of War, Kick Ass, Mom & Dad, Mandy, Color out of Space and Pig, to name a few. And then there are all the good, underappreciated movies.. I won't bore you with a list, but Nicolas Cage is an amzing actor who has steadily put out great and interesting work.", "Lol there’s “bad with money” and then there’s “forced to live as a wage slave despite earning 9 figures over my career”. We need a new phrase for that second one…", "Yes.", "The flame was only a matter of intensity in each situation.", "Nick Cage MMO", "Absolutely.", "Wow, spoilers!", "Into the Nicoverse", "Is my mind deceiving me or does this look like it's going to be a good movie?", "Watch Peggy Sue Got Married. It's like he made it his personal mission to sabotage an otherwise fantastic film. Where did he get that voice from?", "[...He nailed it so hard he became a National Treasure...too ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SzCyhI0pl4)", "I’m pretty sure he’s actually been done paying back taxes for years now.", "I've only seen the awful pole. He's been in some great movies like Moonstruck, but they are much better if you tune him out.", "If you want that other Nick Cage feeling, I really really recommend The Color Out Of Space. Take a shot every time he says \"alpaca.\"", "His weakest films all seem to be from that strange era where he was considered an action hero.\n\nHe's always seemed best when portraying a complete nut case.", "\"I'm a cat, I'm a sexy cat\"", "Nic Cage plays Nick Cage.", "No, I mean the actor most likely to sabotage a great film. If he weren't a Coppola, he'd be playing Willie Loman at dinner theater for seniors in Florida.", "Praise be!", "I don’t recall giving them the rights to my life story to make this movie. They are going to hear from my lawyer.", "So [this](https://youtu.be/94KsLWydewM) impression of Nic Cage that Abed does in Community, but unironically.", "What does NPH say at [15 seconds](https://youtu.be/I8VuWhvk87o?t=15)? \"I'll get you in anywhere?\" Hard to understand. I had to literally listen to this line, like, 30 times to make sense of it.", "\\> True, even more funny if he actually makes this movie because he really needs money irl. \n\n\nPrepare to laugh.", "Is that why he's be reduced to doing Left Behind films?", "they couldn't release it a couple days earlier?", "If Andy Samberg doen't have a cameo in this they fucked up royally.", "this is the first time in a long time ive been really excited about a nick cage movie, this genuinely looks hilarious", "I usually don't watch trailers because I don't like spoilers \n\nI watched this immediately because who cares about the story, I care because Nicolas Cage", "I will actually go to the Cinema for this", "Cage has been making good to great movies over the past couple years tbh. Pig was hands down one of my favorite movies of 2021.", "[Good or bad?](https://youtu.be/OuyH89V_HV8)", "It's my favorite movie ever.", "Blackpink and Nicolas Cage is a crossover I didn't know I needed.", "A ghostrider, I’m honoured sir.", "Oyakodon, a delicious Japanese dish containing chicken, egg and rice. The name literally means ‘Parent and child rice bowl’.", "Movies like Pig, Wild at Heart and Adaptation represent his true capabilities as a performer. The other 95% of his films are just schlocky cash grabs because he’s terrible with money and everybody knows it and that’s fine.", "Thanks. This single clip has now convinced me that I have to watch this show at some stage. We really are spoiled for entertainment.", "Doogie is awesome whenever he shows up.", "It's a great movie but also one of the only movies that I fell asleep watching.\n\nI think there's a point where Kaufman goes just a liiittle too far up his own ass (don't mean literally. Or do I??). And there's a couple key parts of the movie that don't land for me. But it's still great, interesting cinema.", "high hopes but low expectations", "I agree. It definitely is one of the films that came out this year.", "It's my favorite movie ever. It's amazing.", "Good/bad is subjective, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. But yours is wrong!", "This looks... amazing", "Hey man we heard you like Nicolas Cage...", "I can't think of a single movie where adding a Nic Cage \"not the bees!\" scene wouldn't improve it.", "Woah woah woah. Croods 2 is awesome.", "This some bullshit", "Did Adaptation actually star both him and his actual twin?", "Left Behind", "Was really hoping Kaufman wrote this film too.", "No, her was.", "Buttholes that are also clues leading to a treasure", "That scene got me a date once.", "Matt Leblanc did exactly this, including the rich party, in Episodes", "It's like... Looking in a mirror—only—not.", "Sounds like you have a Kaufmann to read up on and watch some things. The dead one wasn't half as prolific.", "I've watched 15 of his recent train wreck movies waiting for this. I had my hopes up with Willy Wonderland", "My guess is that most of the people who were actual fans of the book disliked the movie because it was not a traditional adaptation of the book. It was a movie about the adaptation.", "No, Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans is his masterpiece.", "He's just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as the same dude.", "If you do like 5-10 movies a year Im sure there is a quarter amoung all the turds.", "Not another actor alive that can face off with him", "hes back", "He's poking fun of himself. He's doing more movies lately that actually utilize his talent, like Mandy and stuff, so I assume he's okay again.", "It started out as a legit adaptation of The Orchid Thief (in real life), but that ended up just being a backdrop to the real movie. Not very important except in that context.", "Holy shit what is this from so I can go watch it? It’s right there on the tip of my brain\n\nNever mind I got it! It’s community", "Cage clearly never gets cagey about being caged as Cage.", "Please, please, let it culminate with a movie where Nicholas Cage plans an elaborate heist to steak his film contract back from the frozen head of Walt Disney.", "This looks like a movie so self aware it got up and left from it's own premier. Yep, that's a Nicolas Cage movie alright.", "That's actually the name of the movie. JCVD. Jean-Claude Van Damme plays a fictionalized version of himself.", "You're thinking of Johnny Depp. Nic Cage is Leaving, Depp is Fear and Loving.", ">Watch Peggy Sue Got Married. It's like he made it his personal mission to sabotage an otherwise fantastic film. Where did he get that voice from?\n\nBut if you watch some of his lauded entries, he's clearly got acting ability, and the ceiling is more important than the floor you're describing.", "Honestly wasn't expecting blackpink in a hollywood trailer.", "And now my high is gone. I might have to do a few more hits of this trailer and chase it with some best of YouTube clips.", "Abed's eye just twitched.", "I honestly think it's more that you maligned Nic Cage, if you think this is cringe then perhaps you don't know enough about the man - he's an inimitable character and the world is better off for him.", "What is Neil Patrick Harris saying at [16 seconds](https://youtu.be/I8VuWhvk87o?t=16)? I can't understand it at all. \"I'll bet you would anywhere\"? \"I'll bet you one underwear\"?", "What a path Nic Cage has taken! Loved \"The Pig\" as well!", "Yeah... No way he has the raw talent needed to play this particular character", "Why you little...", "JCVD\n\nActually a really good movie too.", "Nick Cage is on a decent roll lately. \n\n\nWilly's Wonderland was a totally fun movie and he was great in the part. \nPig was a really good movie, it ventured into the absurd to make commentary on the Haute Cuisine culture and FOMO society as a whole. \n\n\nThose Croods movies are nice, my kids like them. \n\n\nI know that Reddit as a whole sort of takes the piss out of him, but the guy is capable as an actor.", "I honestly don't understand the boner that Reddit has for Brendan Fraser. Is it a MBMBAM thing?", "dad no", "I'm excited", "How much debt is he actually in?! He does so many movies. Like how much debt could you rack up to be stuck in this perpetual endless loop of B movie-making even though you are an A list talent?", "That’s a legit good movie too.\n\nI really wish his Amazon series was picked up too.", "Or Jean Claude Van Johnson", "I don't think we're in a universe where you can compare the 2.", "Pretty sure that line about buying his face off figure is a nod to that.", "My being doesn't allow for NICHOLAS FREAKIN' CAGE, OKAY?!", "holy shit LOLOOOOLOLLLLOLOL", "Boy, I was just logging in to say this. Both Van Damme and Chuck Barris (Gong Show guy) parlayed this \"meta-self-satire\" into great success -- JCVD, Jean Claude Van Johnson, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind -- all fantastic reading and/or viewing.\n\nThe drift-racing while blindfolded scene, in particular, never fails to make me howl.", "Even in this trailer, he offers the dude $20k for the statue of himself.", "I’m glad someone got my obscure reference", "Bee Movie", "not at all -- it takes huge liberties with the source material. I read the book after I watched the film -- they are very different!", "Yo dawg I heard you liked Nicolas Cage...", "Wait… this is real?!", "Brian Cox is legend. You can hire him to tell you FUCK OFF on Cameo.", "The show is really really good up until the last couple of seasons. Still worth the watch, but they really started phoning it in on the last couple.", "That strange era was paying the IRS and other debts, with the IRS agreement he basically had to take everything.\n\nHe’s out from that now and is rebuilding, while staying busy but being more selective. He’s a workhorse with terrible financial habits.", "This type of movie also seems perfect for Jean-Claude Van Damme. \n\nAnyone else have an actor/actress that could play themselves but then have to use some of their characters to save the day? or pretend like their characters as they really have no idea how to use machine guns or the such.", "Coooooral... is that you?", "There is no movie premise too insane that it remains implausible with the addition of Nicholas Cage.\n\n'Nic Cage is an art thief who falls into the paintings he steals after an ill advised fight with a dragon.' who wouldn't watch that?\n\n'Nic Cage is a down and out diner owner in Montana who discovered his cheeseburgers grant wishes.' Sure!\n\n'Nicolas Cage is a prisoner in an alien zoo, and has to choose between escape or the woman the place in the exhibit with him' You've already bought tickets for it.", "It's because it was a well liked actor who'd been in a number of high profile movies, and then fell off the face of the Earth. Turned out he got fucking hosed through divorce, and fell into a spiral of depression causing him to gain a lot of wieght and just constantly had this sad look about him. It was like seeing a sad puppy, and you do what you can to cheer it up.", "Bad Lieutenant as well.", "Knowing Cage, he'd drive angry and his competition would be gone in sixty seconds.", "Blackpink was an interesting choice of music for the trailer to say the least", "It’s actually probably way better if you don’t.", "By far the best Cage movie.", "Cage just kinda seems like James Franco. To steal a line from Jonah Hill \"1 for the fans, and 5 for nobody\".", "Not that you went anywhere?", "Seasons 1-3 are spectacular. Some of my favourite TV ever.", "Something similar happened to George Carlin.", "Nic Cage, Brendan Fraser, Keanu Reeves are the 🐐s", "Aaahh I see. I didn't suck Nic Cage's weird musty dick. I will accept the downvotes gladly.", "The guy in the car is annoying AF.", "The real treasure was inside you all along", "Just make it happen.", "He's slowly turning into McAfee", "Probably took him to dinner and interviewed him for awhile. That's what I'd do.", "I feel like a trailer hasn't captured my attention in years but this looks fucking sweet", "There was that one year with the gas leak...", "But if he wouldn't we wouldn't have gems like Mandy or Color Out Of Space.", "So, kinda like JCVD ?", "I'm in for his Next movie, not Knowing whether it will Rock or not.", "The A-Team", "Haha its so good- and JC’s portrayal of his doppleganger is oscar worthy", "Bro Cage is a bit of an eccentric, and likes to do weird movies...kinda similar to James Franco. This movie has Pedro Pascal, Neil Patrick Harris, and Tiffany Haddish along with himself, and those are notable actors. Just last year he did another Croods movie in which the cast included Emma Stone, Ryan Reynolds, Cloris Leachman, Leslie Mann, and Peter Dinklage. Cage just doesn't really do \"blockbusters\" like a National Treasure or something anymore. He seems to kinda be Sandler'ing things but only doing what he wants like a Rick Moranis.", "Critics were not favorable towards this show, but as a life long van damme fan, it was incredible", "Fuck yeah", "Sounds like something Abed would make.", "I think Nicholas Cage is a much better actor when he doesn’t take himself seriously.", "that might actually be watchable", "Particularly if Nic doesn't tell him \"pleasure doing business with you.\"", ">unless they censor the buttholes\n\n\n...............bruh", "Has been for the last 5 years", "> I think there's a point where Kaufman goes just a liiittle too far up his own ass\n\nI love him, but are there any movies of his that this doesn't apply to?", "I would love a scene where he goes into his own head and it's still all John Malkoviches", "I'm not sure Willis only makes shitty movies because he has no choice or money issues. No one making a good movie would want to put up with him.", "So Jean Claude Van Johnson?", "Every 60 seconds a minute passes in Africa.", "Can't stand Nicolas Cage movies. But i'll definetly see this one lmao.", "That's Some Inception Level shit", "I bet Nick was sold on this role by the title alone.", "Well, at the end of the day it's night.", "Fuck. Yes.", "I loved it. It definitely got worse as the season progressed, but was still fun. The action reimagining of Huck Finn was great.", "You forgot the part where he was black-listed after being sexually assaulted and he has back/neck injuries from doing stunts.", "And that was directed by Peter Farrelly, Bob Odenkirk, James Gunn, Brett Ratner... what's your point? Movie 43 did exactly what it intended to do.", "Nick Cage + NPH? Hell yeah", "[Nicholas Cage. Good or bad?](https://youtu.be/OuyH89V_HV8)", "If this doesn't sweep the Oscars, I officially give up.", "Can someone explain to me why Cage's face always looks like a creepy deepfake to me? Is it something to do with the high hairline or something?\n\nAll of his recent movies seem to have the same issue.", "SHUTUP AND TAKE MY MONEY", "> No one making a good movie would want to put up with him.\n\nHe been in a good movie lately?", "Nicholas FREAKING Cage!", "I'm gonna need to see Nic Cage watching this movie then I'll be ok", "I'm hearing \"Not that you went anywhere\".", "Always Be Cagin'.", "This movie at least looks grounded in reality. Being John Malkovich was in no way, shape, or form grounded in reality.", "Coming soon to a theater near you! The Prestige II: The Cage", "I have to disagree. The last season is wonderful but it's a different show. Less slapstick, more depth.", "Elvis the alien is gonna go crazy over this one", "This looks liek it could be a real movie.", "That's because he's always bankrupt from buying stupid shit and enjoys it.", "I need a... goddamn... Nicholas Cage", "r/onetruegod", "Personally speaking. Every movie Nicholas Cage is in he plays as Nicholas Cage", "[Get in the cage!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdA9_mtXYME)", "Personally he's been in some of my favourite films. I love his work. No one is saying he's Sir Patrick Stewart or something, but to say he's bad at what he does is demonstrably false", "> You kidding? It absolutely would have buttholes\n\nAnd Nick Cage would act each and every one of them.\n\nUsually with movies I go \"please be good please be good please be good\" and in this one I go \"please be weird please be weird please be weird\". Not some boring buddy comedy.", "I read that as \n\n>semi award winning\n\nat first lmao", "Which is funny because Spike Jonze (director of BJM) did \"Adaptation\" with Nick Cage and it's considered the unofficial sequel lol", "I’m sure someone else already said this but, I think Abed just peed himself a little.", "Sorry, am I to understand he's playing himself, as well as multiple other characters?", "This is the best possible move Nick could have made. Genius!", "The Orchid Thief is a good book and worth reading!", "This is true. On the other hand, I read the book before the movie and was delightfully blown away by the, er, adaption.", "Nah I think he just reflects the talent of the director or script. Shitty director = shitty Cage.", "Untrue! Personally, I had the opposite reaction! I read and enjoyed the book and was blown away by the movie. They complement each other!", "It’s time to Michael up our Vincents", "The last few episodes really went off the rails.", "He was the best spiderman in Into the Spiderverse", "NOBODY LET ABED SEE THIS!", "Or maybe just [do it like Nic Cage](https://c.tenor.com/PDEhy7xqVdoAAAAC/lets-ride-nicolas-cage.gif)", "Rageeeee cageeeeeee", "im in.", "I was hoping someone would reference this. First thing that came to my mind", "He actually did mess up his finances quite badly. Spent so much money that he ended up broke. IIRC, he blamed the person in charge of his finances for assuring him he could afford all of it and also for stealing from him.", "/r/onetruegod about to implode", "I thought this was a joke about his twin brother in adaptation.", "\"Congratulations. You played yourself.\" - The Movie", "OK, this looks like it's going to be the best Nick Cage movie in the longest time", "It's good to see him doing comedy again. Maybe it's just me, but I think he's awful as an action movie star, but he's great at comedy.", "Why?", "> Cage is notorious for spending massive amount of money on stupid shit and then not paying his taxes.\n\nThis is the reason why they have that scene where he calls a statue of himself grotesque... and then offers to pay $20,000 for it.", "Hell, just this year Pig came out! That movie is amazing, and absolutely made even better by Cage. He's fantastic in it.", "Really annoying that this concept got picked up by such a garbage director.", "He's secretly a master mind of his own reality. He can poke fun at himself and at the same time take the money and not realize he's poking fun at himself in some kind of inception level shit.", "An opinion can't be wrong, it's an opinion", "I thought it got really funny towards the end. Whole show was great.", "Mandy was really good too. even got me some Cheddar Goblin mac and cheese lol", "The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent? They should have gotten someone other than Nicolas Cage, someone who can act should have played him.", "Now I want butter noodles....", "The role he was born to play", "And because he can't get legitimate film roles because he's such a terrible actor. Even the Coppolas can't push him anymore.", "That'll be the sequel, which is also a prequel, as it shows the leading events to him taking this movie, and then the shenanigans around filming it, and his inner turmoil upon completion, uhh is there a word for a sequel which actually takes place at the same time??", "He was literally born to play this role", "My first thought was \"wow he could totally play a semi-washed out actor, living a weird overly extended life style\" and then I watched a few second more.", "He's been in some great movies and shat the bed: Moonstruck, Peggy Sue Got Married. The Coppolas gave him more career opportunities than any actor deserved, and he was awful.\n\nHe stands out for being the guy who ruins films, which is why he's been reduced to doing garbage now, like those Evangelical Left Behind films.", "Has anyone checked on Abed?", "(aggressively takes off sunglasses)\n\nYou son of a bitch, I'm in", "No one should be forced to wage a Cage film. That poor soul.", "They jump the shark but stick the landing.", "...ok, im game", "I like the impulsive \"I'll give you $20,000 for it\" which is apparently the perfect representation of 1990s Nick Cage.", "JCVD vibes and that's no bad thing.", "My wife and I saw Wally's Wonderland and thought, \"wtf is this Five Nights at Freddy's ripoff? It looks awful. \n... \nOh, it has Nic Cage! We have to watch this!\"\n\nIt was so much better than I expected. I've been loving this recent campy horror movie phase he's been in.", "I AM SO STOKED FOR THISNFUCKING MOVIE YEESSSSS!", "Uh.. Bangkok Dangerous!", "Even though he plays the same person in every movie I love ike barinholtz", "Release the butthole edition you cowards!", "Cage was always on fire, it was society that was all wet", "This was so good. So sad it got cancelled.", "Adaptation is a movie where Nicolas Cage writes Being John Malkovich while also playing his own brother.", "He was great in Lord of War too.", "Absolute drivel.", "This is a genius idea for Cage’s career. He embraces all of the negativity that has been generated about him and his career and laughs at himself about it. This will make Nicolas come off as a more endearing person, and he will be able to get better roles, and eventually pay off his debts. I’m all for it", "Hmm.. Nope, it would still make it a better movie! It would work as a gag + easter egg. Also Nick Cage’s head vs. Jerry Seinfeld’s sharp “wit”? You can’t tell me you wouldn’t want to see that!", "More like a Charlie Sheen, combined with Johnny Cage.", "I urge caution!!! It is well known that binging Nic Cage can lead to... [unpleasantness](https://youtu.be/F1XCUo_Uu8M)...", "Whelp. I'll watch it. Looks funny as fuck.", "This looks great! Lol I’m glad he’s making a bit of a comeback, Pig was pretty cool", "# An Interesting teaser but Unexpected.", "So, foward?", "Oh I'm aware, that's why I made this joke.", "This year, myself and a couple of buddies did the Month of Cage - we watched a new Nick Cage movie every night for a month. Not going to say it was all smooth sailing, but I think this movie will be a worthy addition to the next Month of Cage\n\n(It's July of course, because \"My Daddy coming home on July 14th)", "Probably 1 movie for the fans and 5 movies that are junk and nobody will see but they pay the bills", "I know! That's what's weird about this case!", "It was actually an extremely good movie. Back when movies were well written and tv was mindless garbage. Nowadays, it's flipped.", "Color Out of Space from a few years ago was superb. And not just Cage, the entire cast", "Having buttholes is one thing.\n\nPaying someone to go in to post production and ADD buttholes is something else entirely.", "This looks meta as fuck and I am all about it", "I think I will dislike this on youtube to weigh in on my opinion", "But the two years after that pick up.", ">He owned 15 properties, including a Bahamian island, gothic and medieval castles in Germany and Somerset and a mansion in New Orleans that was said to be America’s most haunted house. He also spent £220,000 on a 70-million-year-old dinosaur skull, which he later had to return to the Mongolian government.\n\n\nAnd of course among his huge car collection is a Shelby.", "This is so meta, love it.", "/r/onetruegod", "I've heard those stories from people who have worked with him. He's a big baby.", "I know it's an unpopular opinion, but the whole show is worth watching, IMO. It definitely dips after S3, though.", "If you want peak Cage-insanity check out Mandy", "If this doesn’t prove that he only has one act…", "Dude this actually looks like it'll be good. The last couple of his movies have been shit, but I'm looking forward to this", "I'm so sorry and I will probably be very disappointed; but, this looks fucking great!", "I've preordered tickets for myself and my entire family to watch this.", "He'll have to be perfect, b/c Spider-man Noir will be on the case!", "No, the main character (John Cussack) is creepy and offputting the way he tries to hit on a girl who clearly isnt interested, and it's weird there is an office building that's only half a floor", "One of my favs", "Larry I’m on DuckTales.", "Sure and a few others. Raising Arizona, for God’s sake.", "Adaption is better for me. It's less weird but a bit surreal. \n\nIt's one of the best movies of all time for me. One of my favorite acting performances as well from Nic Cage.", "It's the role he was born to play.", "This looks great", "He’d be raising all kinds of Arizona! You’d be moonstruck just seeing it all on screen!", "I thought Nicholas Cage already made this movie and it was called Pig.", "This man is truly a Face/Off", "This is meta af", "Well that's just provably false though...", "Never heard of this", "Agreed. It was everything I could ever want from him and more. It's a god damn shame we didn't get more of it.", "Ben Stiller as Ben Stiller in “There’s Something About Ben Stiller”.", "i would watch that unless they censor anything BUT the buttholes", "Because\n\n#BRENDAN FRASER", "Finally a role in which Nic Cage can overact as much as he wants and nobody can tell him it's \"Not in character\".", "as Ant Man", "Glad to hear that! Great film!", "Pig is not a good movie. It isn't a bad movie. It's interesting to see Nic Cage be restrained, but that's about it. A lot of other movies have done what the movie does a lot better. \n\nPig is another example of The Emperor's New Clothes in action.", "Part of it is that he was in a lot of movies that a significant portion of redditors watched and loved as children, so there's a nostalgia factor, another part is like /u/Hank_Holt and /u/coog226 said, he basically got massively screwed over, so people are rooting for him to do well.", "Oh please. It was adequate at best. There's nothing at all special about it.", "We need a smell-o-vision version.\n\n “And I love your scent, musky and masculine like that of a silverback gorilla in a form-fitting leather jacket.”", "> It why his movies are always great or meh.\n\nI think directors or writers have to do something with that...", "> Pig was hands down one of my favorite movies of 2021.\n\nYou have low standards.", "I was thinking of that movie as well when I saw this trailer. Nic Cage has finally figured out the best way to actually win back the movie critics after a series of bad movies is to parody himself.", "Other than leaving las vegas, adaptation and this Pig (and raising arizona, thanks for ‘minder) was he really really good in anything else? Havent seen all his stuff and a lot of the cheeseball stuff doesnt stick out\n\nBased on the trailer, i do want to see this movie lol. And evidently Pig based on comments", "Your opinion is valid but I disagree wholeheartedly. Stay warm out there man!", "This is the spiritual sequel to Being John Malkovich", "More amusingly, it’s a line spoken out loud by a screenwriting coach played by Brian Cox in the film Adaptation (2002) that interrupts main character Charlie Kaufman* played by Nic Cage while he’s doing voice over to explain how embarrassed he feels to be attending a screen writing class. \n\nYes. Nic Cage plays the writer of the screenplay of the movie who’s main character is the screenwriter himself. Oh and his imaginary twin brother.", "But not really, since Charlie Sheen didn't do this.", "IMMA CAT. IM A SEXY CAT.", "That was one of my initial thoughts. Geez, talk about hearing impaired. I am a native English speaker with great hearing using pro headphones... yet it still was a struggle to hear. That's on the audio mixers, I feel, because this is literally the first time I have struggled to understand NPH's speech in the last 30 years.", "You're thinking of Ghost Rider.", "Fear and Loathing", "I’d watch the fuck out of this", "> Movie 43 did exactly what it intended to do.\n\nSuck? Because that's exactly (and only) what it did.\n\nAlso, Bob Odenkirk's piece isn't in the movie. They cut the only person involved that has a history of being one of the funniest people alive.", "This looks amazing", "Do not like nick cage one bit....", "Yes. And Bob's segment is on the physical release.", "Because he has also famously had major money troubles, not all his own fault by the sounds of it, as is trying to make a comeback", "This looks fun. It’s always nice to see him having fun in a role. Some of his VOD stuff would be made much better with a little levity in his acting. There is no reason to throw yourself into the character and be so serious in some shitty action movie.", "Thought it was satire but I guess Nick Cage is just even more wierdly self obsessed than I thought he was. This looks bad yo", "I heard they went with Cage because Travolta was unavailable.", "More like JCVD", "Side point, but did Nic Cage discover a cure for baldness or are those plugs?", "It's a line from the comedy central roast of james franco.", "I can't not trust someone who knows how to use commas.", "You’re hired to direct the parallequal.", "Nicholas Cage and The Mandalorian??\n\nI'm in!!", "I still don't know what \"lean into\" means. I've never heard of this phrasing before, but then again, English is not my first language. What does it mean? ELI5?\n\nEdit: okay... now I'm even more confused. People are providing drastically different meanings. :(", "with a little The Interview sprinkled in.", "with a little The Interview sprinkled in.", "Shit, I'd watch that movie", "I thought that was Orlando Bloom as the superfan.", "Being John Malkovich meets Galaxy Quest meets ... Last Action Hero?", "He blew a lot of money on dinosaur skulls and multiple European castles.\n\nIdk if I would consider that wasting it, but...", "As a big, big Nic Cage fan - this looks awesome. Hope its good. \n\n\nI argue with friends that Nic Cage's filmography is up there. Yes, lots of duds. But The Rock, Gone in 60 Seconds, Face Off, Family Man, Adaptation, etc. are some of my favorites. He has serious talent that unfortunately has gotten lost due to him saying yes to some duds recently.", "Except there are plenty, like myself, who love the \"5 for nobody\" that Cage puts out. I love me a bad Cage movie. And a good Cage movie.", "He owns an actual castle. So yeah not the best with investment lol", "you had me at Nicolas Cage plays Nicolas Cage", "But who's playing the person with talent?", "It is so not the movie you expect it to be... do not go into it thinking its going to be like a weird Cage version of John Wick.", "interestingly enough, had it not been for COVID and production delays, Pig would not have been one of the movies of the year. kind of funny how it worked out.\n\n(because it was supposed to come out last year)", "It's good, watch it.", "So it's JCVD but with Cage", "Yep, and the people keeping him hostage are fans and he does his movie shit to get them to like him so he can get through it.", "We got with the cage with Nicholas Cage.", "It is art, imitating life, imitating art.", "you'd think this was obvious, but people unironically believe the meme", "I'm actually really looking forward to this now lol.\n\nAlso he's looking pretty good isn't he? I feel like every other photo i've seen of him for 10 years now makes him look like a mess and boarderline homeless. But here he looks 15 years younger and cleaned up well. Obviously ones a movie and ones random photos but still", "Is this kinda what Jean-Claude Van Damme did with “JCVD”?", "I wouldnt even want to see a movie like that lol", "He's in Doom Patrol and is excellent.", "He's beginning to believe.", "Based on comments i def will", "Peak Nic Cage.", "YOU SON OF A BITCH, IM IN", "So like Gallagher?", "Just like real life too!", "I'm a big fan of his Adaption to his notoriety in the industry.", "Abeds brain is gonna explode.", "I'm squealing like a pig", "I have no idea what I just watched, but I want to see it.", "606 Bucks btw", "!Remindme 6 months!", "Pig was fantastic. I hope he wins some awards for it", "The writer was actually horrified that the plot involved her falling in love with the guy and threatened to pull the rights but after seeing an early screening changed her mind.\n\nPlus how can you give up a chance to be played by Meryl Streep!", "There’s never really been a shortage of movies, just good ones.", "She were!", "Yeah if you enjoy that book it would be a hurdle to get over to enjoy Adaptation.", "I know it's an old meme, but...\n\n>Yo dawg I heard you like Nicolas Cage so we put Nicolas Cage in your Nicolas Cage movie so you can watch Nicolas Cage channeling his inner Nicolas Cage while watching your Nicolas Cage Movie.", "An original movie script, not the same old tired crappy plots. Can’t wait!", "I don't want to be your father", "They definitely let him... out of the cage for this one.", "Abed would have a field day with this.", "The only way this could be better is if he was lusciously fat.", "So is this supposed to be serious or just another Cage movie? Because I remember a Seagal movie getting a Super Bowl ad and it was just another Seagal movie.", "He was excellent in Bad Lieutenant.", "I cant wait, i’m legit excited", "Like exaggerating a specific aspect. In this case it's Nic Cage being crazy lol", "I can believe that; he was great in Into the Spider-Verse (I didn't even realise he was in it until I saw his name in the credits), but godawful in Jiu Jitsu.", "Malkovich.", "Andy Samberg better make a cameo as his version of Nicolas Cage.", "Clearly, you've never seen Cats the movie. No one should be in it. No one.", "He was a perfect fit for the Lovecraftian insanity. In hindsight it makes too much sense", "OG CollegeHumor was the best", "Theyre really out of ideas arent they?", "It's also a joke on the more classic phrase, \"One for them, one for me,\" which refers to doing one movie that makes a ton of money, then another movie that you make for personal/artistic satisfaction.", "\"You're my number one fan?\" \n\n\"I already starred in that movie with Deniro. Didn't you see that one?\"", "Willy's Wonderland is just a ton of fun. Mandy is peak nic cage insane. Prisoners of the Ghostland was terrible and had nothing redeeming", "I am going to see this movie and I really hope their is a reference to or cameo from Community. Thanks for your link.", "[\"If I was in 70 films over 30 years, and spent each one talking at random volumes, I might accidentally win an Oscar.\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo_Uu8M)", "nice", "Ist good movie trailer I have seen in like 4 years", "stoked to see this one", "Your comment makes me think of this College Humor video.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/eExfV_xKaiM", "\"TV has just gotten crazy good lately.\" - quote from the dean I think", "Alright, well, I'm watching it.", ">I know it's an unpopular opinion, but the whole show is worth watching, IMO. It definitely dips after S3, though. \n\nI think people generally like s5 and s6. But yeah, saying s4 is worth watching is definitely a bit of an unpopular one", "All.The.Way...", "Cool, we're all entitled to our opinions", "Can you survive a day in The Cage Cage???\n\nhttp://www.thecagecage.com\n\nEdit: I didn’t make this but I did make an extension where you can escape the cage. But there is a secret once you escape…\n\nI’ll try and find and post it later.", "I read the script the other day. Thought it was great. I didn’t think this trailer was a great representation. But it’s just a trailer. Still excited for this.", "Can’t fucking wait for this haha!", "Meta", "The linked clip is not even the whole thing. Watch it all\n\n&#x200B;\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo\\_Uu8M", "This isn’t what I meant when I said studios need to release more original pictures.", "First scene in the trailer sold me. Not watching any more of it. This gonna be good.", "maybe it is a deepfake. maybe he died years ago but his beneficiaries kept it quite so they could rent out his face. \n\nOr maybe hes alive but just really lazy. \"Send me $30k via western union money order and you can pretend I was in your movie\"", "What song is that in the trailer?", "Hmm, so if I were to say \"the mona lisa totally leans into the whole no eyebrow thing\"\n\ndoes that make sense?", "Nicholas cage is never a mediocre actor. Hes an incredible actor who takes on bad roles.", "Mmhmm, that’s great Charlie Kauffman but some of us have work in the morning.", "Reminded me of Episodes, with Matt Leblanc\n\nReally cool show", "Weird but entertaining, like watching a train wreck", "Think of it as embracing a particular characteristic. \n\nIf you're goofy looking, instead of trying to change your appearance to hide that goofiness you dress in such a way as to show off that particular aspect of yourself.\n\nIn this case, Nic Cage has a reputation for being an over the top actor who's been in ridiculous movies. So \"leaning into\" his character is him portraying himself doing something ridiculous.", "At times like this I like to share a wild but largely unknown fact about Nicolas Cage:\n\n> If you're struggling to think of another famous Cage in Hollywood, that's because there isn't. Nicolas' real last name isn't Cage, but Coppola. The Coppola family goes way back in Hollywood. The family patriarch, Carmine Coppola, was an Oscar-winning composer who scored a number of movies including The Godfather, The Godfather II, and Apocalypse Now, all directed by his son Francis Ford Coppola. Carmine's other children are actress Talia Shire (born Talia Rose Coppola), who starred in Rocky and The Godfather II, and August Coppola. August was Nicolas' dad, a literature professor and the only one of Carmine's three children not to pursue a career in film.\n\n[source](https://www.thelist.com/317597/what-you-dont-know-about-nicolas-cages-impressive-family-tree/)", ">His weakest films all seem to be from that strange era where he was considered an action hero.\n\n??? Face/off is literally his best film and Con Air & The Rock are cult classics", "I instantly thought of this when he was on the phone and says \"I'll take it\"", "That name sounds rather clunky.\n\nI prefer \"2 Prestige 2 Cage\"", "Well I know just what the hell I'm doing for my birthday in 2022", "This is amazing. Im so excited to see it when its released.", "What? Looks great!", "This is a great line. And very apt. That final boardgame commercial scene, damn, such a great ending.", "Of course it is, it’s a documentary.\n\n/r/malkovich", "Cats 2: *Cage'd", "Was thinking it sounded kpop-ish. What a strange but calculated choice of track.", "Type cast at its finest", "Completely agree, and the batshit crazy second season they seemed to be setting up could have been amazing. So pissed that they didn't renew it.", "What about his brother Johnny who fought in those tournaments though.", "A lot of those jokes fell awfully flat.", "I refuse to sign the legislation that allows more than... eight Nicolas Cages to a... precinct!", "Wearing an obvious bad disguise of yourself is actually probably a pretty pro move to throw people off of your identity.", "I usually hate this guy, but i love this 😂", "Yeah they really did lmao.", "He’s so good at the end of it. Full Cage.", "Black Pink! Dunno if this is gonna be appealing to the blinks, but I want to see it.", "And it’s Pedro Pascal playing Pedro Pascal.", "I immediately thought of JCVD When I saw this trailer.", "This will either be a classic or a dumpster fire movie. Nothing in between.", "Yeah that works", "Mandy; Leaving Las Vegas; Birdy; Moonstruck; Red Rock West... the list of good films he's made is considerably longer than most people want to admit, because it destroys their bullshit narrative of him being trash. And it's funny, because no one ever says Michael Caine is trash, but he's another great actor who also will do anything where the check clears. Folks just love to hate on Cage.", "\"I like being in movies, Gary\"", "This actually looks good.", "/r/inclusiveor", "I dunno man. The cage collapsed in the first movie, killing the bird. Might not be a safe idea.", "If this masterpiece dose not feature a Jon Malkovich cameo, I will be sorely disappointed.", "I for one can't wait. It's like the role he literally was born to play.", "that was brilliant", "This is like a Nick Cage version of Human Centipede.", "\"Suck my dick! Suck my muthafuckin' dick!\"", "I paid for a ticket to see it with friends, just for the spectacle. It was truly bizarre and a great time.", "Cant wait for the movie, but I also want to remind people that Cage’s career isn’t defined by meme culture. He’s an incredibly self aware and talented actor. Seriously, check out a lot of his more recent work.", "Pig is probably the Cage movie I liked the least. And I love Cage. It just seemed to miss everything that make movies with him fun to watch.", "Isn't that basically the plot of Enter the Dragon", "To be fair to Nic, those World War 2 action movies sound incredible.", "Voice over is used gratuitously up until that point in the movie. After Brian Cox's character says that, voice over isn't used again.", "Without a drop of irony, Nicolas Cage is one of the greats. I really hope the internet catches up to reality and realizes that while Cage is still alive, instead of waiting until after he’s gone to start singing his praises. \n\nHe’s going to be playing Dracula in Renfield and I cannot think of a more perfect choice. The past few years have really reinforced what an amazing horror actor he is.", "r/onetruegod", "We've reached the endgame", "Been so pumped for this ever since it got announced", "I have not been this excited for a movie in a while. I will live to regret that. Lol", "You're on to something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdA9_mtXYME", "impossible! he has no talent!", "God, it’s basically the new “literally”. Nowadays it just means “makes me feel slightly uncomfortable”.", "You know that gif of Moe from the Simpsons putting away his noose, \"Not today old friend.\" This is how I feel.", "I seriously cannot wait.", "50/50 this gets pulled before release and re released straight to video as Heavens Gate Part Duex.", "Fuck that; Hugh jackman with the balls on his neck was funny as fuck", "You son of a bitch, I’m in.", "Millions of people watched Community, this isn’t obscure by any means.", "This is his Magnum Opus, surely. He should just retire after this as no role will ever live up to this one.", "Are you insane? Pig was utter pig shit!", "First step in change is admitting you have a problem... then spending $20K on it", "The issue is that people don't quite understand what he's doing.\n\nHe's not acting for realism. His acting style is \"method kabuki\" and he plays it perfectly. His characters are well developed, well researched (regular good actor) and emphasized to absurdity (only nick cage)\n\nNicholas cage is an one of the greatest acting talents of our time.", "This is the Way.", "I get more of a My Name is Bruce vibe.", "Then why isn’t he doing real parts anymore?", "This is the role he was born to play. I cannot wait to see it.", "Nicholas cage doesn't do what Nicholas cage does for Nicholas cage. Nicholas cage does what Nicholas cage does because he's...Nicholas cage.", "oh right people are so young now the mummy is not known anymore.....fuck...", "> An original movie script\n\nHardly, maybe one you've never seen before.", "Why am I so exited for this!?", "I'm a vampiyahh, I'm a vampiyahhh!", "I've never seen a Nicholas Cage movie trailer before and thought \"Hmmm that looks like something I'll watch\", until now", "I liked him in it but the movie was lacking slightly I thought.", "He is having way too much fun XD", "Or My Name is Bruce.", "Just watched Pig last night, and damn, it was a good movie", "This is like the Nick Cage version of banging your mom.", "Cage inception", "Drives me fucking nuts. Not everything in the entire world that you don't like, 13 year olds, is \"So CRINGE!\"\n\nIt just kills me how few people care to have an original thought or make a unique utterance. Like so many moronic trends on reddit. I feel like so few people attempt to think for themselves or say something that isn't just the latest trend you've already seen hundreds of times.\n\nIn b4 \"This is the way\"", "This movies marketing team is hitting Reddit hard this week", "This actually looked really good", "I am so excited.", "I would cast Pauly Shore.", "4 is the gas leak year right?", "This looks amazing, but come on Nicolas... the hair piece...\n\nunless that's a bit in the movie", "Do you honestly think that all the people he works with don't know who his parents are?\n\nThis is kinda like not recognizing Clark Kent is Superman because he has glasses on.", "Pauly Shore as Nicolas Cage? Brilliant. He'd do a better Nicholas Cage than Nicholas Cage ever could.", "Cage is always the best part of any movie he's in. Even if the movie sucks, Cage is always great.", "convinced me to give it a watch I thought it would be a typical cage film haha", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQ72f-jjx4\n\nJean Claude Van Johnson?\n\nHow have I never heard of this show? Only 6 episodes, but it looks good.", "Pig is my favourite movie in a long time. I will enthusiastically watch Nic Cage movies going forward.", "This has similar vibes to Jean-Claude Van Johnson and I’m all for it.", "Pig is such a beautiful movie, it left me weeping.", "109 and counting. Soon you wont be able to log onto a streaming service without seeing a movie with him in it on the top selection screen.", "It is the way.", "it's like poetry; it rhymes.", "Nick'ed Cats", "That we are, u/cuntdumpling. That we are.", "Niception", "Put the bunny back in the box!", "Yea, just a dude getting stung, or seeing a mass of them and saying it", "this is my favorite abed scene", "Or people got something out of it that you didn't. That doesn't make you wrong, but it doesn't make them wrong, either.* You seem to be having a hard time separating your opinion from fact.", "Black Jesus was another show that went like that. Started out great and got progressively less funny 😬", "I feel like the scenes with the wall and the guy on the phone in the car were supposed to be the funniest parts of the movie, and they were pretty awful from the clips in this trailer.", "every few years he needs to go all out and remind everyone that he is in fact an academy awarding winning actor so that he can keep all those shitting payday movies where he phones it in casting him", "Which is the genesis of [my all-time favorite CollegeHumor skit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM).", "You might even say it’s the role he was born to play!", "The real question is, can he pull it off?", "Pig wasn't meant to be a typical fun Cage movie, it was a movie to actually utilize his acting skills.", "MbMbam what ?", "Pig is un-ironically the best movie of 2021.\n\nIt needs to be in Oscar discussions", "The Father or Palmer", "I think it's just botox - John Travolta gives of the same eerie effect these days.", "It's true, put it in something serious like Schindler's List and it can be a brutally cruel bit of torture by Amon Goth.", "His ultimate role", "Snipeser", "The trailer also opens up with him having been living in a hotel for a year and owing them $600,000", "Yes. I have also acquired it through legitimate means. 👀", "[Always Be Cageing.](https://youtu.be/F1XCUo_Uu8M)", "This is the most challenging role for Nick Cage yet. Very few actors can play Nick Cage. But, I think Nick Cage can pull it off, if his grueling and identity-destroying method acting doesn't consume him.", "Is Brian Cox the character who serves the role of a dues ex machina while insisting he should never use a dues ex machina?", "Not that you went anywhere", "That reminds me of Scorcese's Casino, where a certain character is killed whilst speaking a voice over narration. And the voice over narration grunts in pain to correspond to the on screen beating.", "If John Malkovitch isn't in this movie, I'm going to take a shit on the theater floor.", "catastrophic with money?", "And then later on he starred in Jean Claude Van Johnson, a show where we find out that Jean Claud Van Damn has always been a spy, and used his film career as a cover. It's hilarious. only got one season though.", "I think Nick Cage or potentially Brendan Fraser are the only two people that can pull this off.", "No. Brian Cox's tells Charlie to never ever use a deus ex machina, and then later he does in the form of an alligator.", "Im in. I’m fucking sold. I love the meta shit and the fact that the man can make fun of himself. I’ll be watching this one for a laugh for sure.", "Hahaha Cooooooooooooooooral", "Ahhh, I remember my take away being that Cox's character coming in and giving him a bunch of advice was a form of Dues Ex Machina, but, I also saw the movie when it was in the new releases section of the video store so, my memory may vary.", "I'm so glad they cast Nicolas Cage for it.", "I need to watch this. Nic has gone meta", "Can't tell if I hate this or love this", "How much to call me his number one candy baby?", "I'm convinced he's one of the best actors ever and gives exactly what the director asks of him. There are no bad Cage movies, only directors that make bad movies with him in it.", "esta increíble", "I had zero interest or expectations going in but after viewing the trailer I am full of hope and planning a small monetary donation to Nick's cause.", "So Hollywood has run out of ideas", "To promote this they need to auction off a viewing with Nick Cage and all of the money goes to Nick Cage, not charity.", "Ugh, im so in love with Britta.", "When a man becomes a meme, and that meme becomes self-aware in the most glorious way possible, we get my most anticipated movie of 2022.\n\nDid this just make me go back and watch every single SNL \"In The Cage\" segment, ending with the one that has the real Nick Cage? You're damn right it did.", "Wow, he was made for this role.", "I really like him as Spider-Man Noir in Into-the-Spiderverse. I would watch a movie with just Spider Noir voiced by him.", "Bad Lieutenant was great", "I haven't been to a movie theater in a few years. I will find someone to go watch this with, I dno't care what it takes.", "Ya I think every funny moment is in this trailer", "TBF DuckTales is pretty awesome. \n\n[Also using this as an opportunity to plug one of my favorite stupid videos](https://youtu.be/frZHtnn1nA0)", "No, oddly enough, that was just the great actor.", "Is this another \"Christian\" rapture film?", "From what I remember it wasn't really his financial habits that bit him it was his accountant. His accountant repeatedly lied to him about paying his taxes and having enough money for things and then it all came crashing down. I'll need to look it up but I also feel like he was a victim to embezzlement from the accountant too.", "I found that part hilariously self-deprecating.", "https://youtu.be/eExfV_xKaiM\n\nAll you have to do is breathe in front of Nick Cage and he’s in too.", "That makes sense. He could also pick up on his mannerism by spending time with him.", "I never saw the show, but I absolutely love the movie JCVD.", "This is either going to be god awful or sheer brilliance. I lean more towards the awful side. Cashing in on internet memes can get you a good trailer and a few good moments, but it does not make a movie.\n\nThe writers/directors are going to be what makes or breaks this.\nSo I guess if you like Ghosted look forward to this.", "It's the animal of the future", "Nicolas Cage is the worst actor I ever saw….period!!!!!!!\nDude can’t act …. Period!!!!!!!", "People also forget that if he needs help financially he has a certain famous relative or two that could help him.", "Say what you want about Movie 43, the movie had a goal and achieved it 100%. Unfortunately that goal was one of the worst movies ever made, but it was exactly what they were going for. You can’t criticize the effort.", "I like Nick Cage. I even liked The Weatherman.", "He fully embraced the nic cage memes!", "There was a movie called JCVD starring Jean Claude van Damme playing himself. Brilliant movie.\n\nOne scene >!where he broke the fourth wall for an extended monologue!< was the unquestionable highlight.", "I worked on it in post! It was very fun.", "> Seasons 1-3 are spectacular.\n\nI think people need to stop saying that to people that haven't watched the show. Just let them experience it organically and form their own opinion of the show without us coloring their perspective. I didn't know about the \"gas leak year\" when I first watched Community and I barely noticed a dip in quality. Retrospectively I can better recognize the faults of season 4, but the casual viewer might not notice or care.", "Nick Cage may have pulled a Prestige?", "Oh fuck. Hes actually making a comeback. I honestly thought he career couldn't be salvaged, but God damn this is going to be brilliant. 100% will go to the theaters to see this.", "Played by James Corden", "I hope this is good and it turns into a series of movies and Nic Cage ends his career playing himself poking fun at himself and this becomes the Nic Cage redemption arc.", "With a little bit of JCVD.", "Abed is on high alert", "makes me think of Last Action Hero kinda, this sounds great. I love Nick Cage", "Pig is incredible. People need to know, this isn't some weird Nic Cage psychotic fever dream of a movie. It's BEAUTIFUL.", "Buddy Lee is Buddy Lee in ‘Buddy Lee’ this is a stolen idea", "Nic Cage version of Star Whores.", " I love Nick Cage and would like to see this movie. Sadly though, there isn't a movie theater where I live.", "Where have you seen this?", "I’ve takin 4Ds if you know what I mean man", "Your mom does exactly as she was intended and sucks", "See, I like Face/Off right up to the point where they switch places. As soon as Cage has to play it straight, the illusion breaks.\n\nCon Air is OK, but Malkovich provides the entertainment, and the same can be said for The Rock with Connery and Harris doing some much needed heavy lifting.\n\nLeast said about National Treasure and stuff like Ghost Rider the better.\n\nIt's movies like Raising Arizona and Bad Lieutenant that give him room to breathe.", "So fucking meta", "But only if they release the butthole cut.", "Wild at Heart; Birdy; Raising Arizona; Mandy. All 4 wildly different from one another, all 4 excellent. I'm also a huge fan of Vampire's Kiss, but that's a bit more divisive.", "I see where you’re going. I guess in my mind Charlie sought out the advice so it would make narrative sense that he would get some.", "He's pretty good in Lord of War", "This is like the Nick Cage version of Sophie's Choice", "I don't think there's enough cocaine on the planet to write that screenplay.", "Also the movie Mindhorn.", "Always\n\nBe\n\nCageing", "Well yeah but as a fan of Cage you already know that Cage's acting skills aren't necessarily correlated to whether the movie is fun to watch. I'd a lot rather watch a terrible Cage performance with a good story. Or even better have both be at least passable. I thought Pig just had a horrendous plot, it's boring yet probably as ridiculous as his most stupid movies like Drive Angry.", "Do you have COVID? Because you seem to have no taste.", "i wonder who was second on the list if cage wouldnt take the role", "\"I wanna tell the story of Nic Cage from the perspective of a filmmaker exploring the life of Nic Cage.\" \n\n\"That sounds very appealing to filmmakers.\"", "Please say he’ll win an Oscar, I want to hear that acceptance speech!", "This man is a national treasure", "Willis is a fascinating topic of gossip. Supposedly h and Lindsay Lohan would hook up back in her partying days. And she was besties with his daughter. Yikes.", "God I love Nic Cage.\n\nEven more so with all his super weird movies the last decade or so. It's like he just gets me.", "You gotta know how to direct Nicholas Cage. He's not docile or sweet, like a gazelle, but more of a lion-like actor. So you bring the whip. And the whip is what makes Cage shine, as the lascerations on his back push him down and make his rage come out. You must keep your Cage subservient but emotional, caged but wild.\n\nOtherwise you get The Wicker Man, but that ain't all bad either.", "That's perfect; you already know your lines.", "I cant remember the last time I was this excited for a movie. Can Nic be officially considered a living god now?", "[source](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo_Uu8M) for those who haven’t seen it.", "We can call it being 'Caged'.", "If it's only from recent stuff then it probably is a form of deep fakeness. Big budget movies do de-aging and other facial clean up which takes us into the uncanny valley.", "All you have to say is \"This is like the Nick Cage version of\" and I'm in.", "One of the very best screenplays ever written. Enjoy, it’s a special one", "Malkovich.", "To be serious, he probably has to go back and rewatch some of his films if the goal is to actually have him re-act various scenes and characters.\n\nImagine that, though. He might have to rewatch, say, National Treasure, and think \"Fuck, I was having a terrible day during this scene. That was a shitty take, why did it go viral?\" But either way, it has to be done the same way.", "Very cool! It's a beautiful movie, you should be proud for having helped make it.", "Ha yeah that's Kaufman, but that's what I love about him. Like Synecdoche New York, that movie was just so much I wasn't even sure what I was watching at some point or what was going on. But I loved every minute of it still.", "Is this a JCVD reboot?", "I like the movie name but I think it'd have been even better to name it \" Nicholas Cage\" so it could be Nicholas Cage plays Nicholas Cage in Nicholas Cage", "This is the Nick Cage Version of My Name Is Bruce, tbh.", "So that's why the memes these last few years, long con", "The \"Nick Cage is so bad he's good\" joke is probably the stalest joke in film history", "Never forget this pic of Nicolas Cage and Yoona from Girls Generation. [Link](https://pm1.narvii.com/7036/9b061038fa633f02651d522e6305144549248b27r1-1620-1080v2_00.jpg)", "Nicolas Nicolas. Nicolas, Nicolas Nicolas? Nicolas. Nicolas Nicolas Nicolas. Nicolas? Nicolas Nicolas!", "It gets better on a rewatch - once you see that every \"lesson\" Charlie learns throughout the movie gets used by the movie itself.", "/r/onetruegod must be melting down over this.", "It’s pretty much a biography of his life.", "I watched that movie when I was 16, and couldn't make any sense of it at the time. Not a good first date movie at that age lol", "JCVJ. A hilarious 6 episodes of television", "You son of a bitch…", "I wonder if Nic Cage will be gone in that time.", "Britta's the worst", "It was already done by John Malkovich....who was also in Con Air with Nick Cage.", "They’re not even remotely similar movies. The only similarity is an actor playing himself...", "r/onetruegod", "Looks like shit unfortunately", "Sorry that you have such bad taste in films. But hey, maybe you’ll actually enjoy this new nick cage dumpster fire!", "im a dude, playing myself!... disguised as himself!!!", "_La Cage aux Cage_", "I mean has Nick Cage ever really made a bad movie? Like yeah I probably will he's a good actor and NPH is on board so yeah most people will like it probably", "Have you seen adaptation? You might not like that if you found being John malkovich confusing and creepy.", "I’m in. This is amazing.", "Why can't you ever get bread at Nick Cage's dinner table?\n\nBecause never in his life has he ever passed on a roll.", "Jenna Marbles is going to have a field day", "This would have had to have been a fantastic pitch meeting.", "I don't know, the whole underground pseudo Fight Club was a big miss for me. Except for that it was great. It just made no sense.", "that looks absolutely retarded\n\nedit: /r/hailcorporate", "Literally the only movie that I’ve been properly HYPED for in years.", "National Treasure?", "This looks awful. I’ll watch it three times.", "I've been a fan of his forever, my wife never was. We both loved that show, it was just so good.", "Was curious so looked it up. Pretty sure it's [this](https://youtu.be/Hi1qHibM2Y8).", "So am I! Thats whats great.", "God damn... there really is a sub for everything.", "You son of a bitch, I’m in.", "Or Van Samme in JCVD.", "had nicolas cage had a beard implant?", "I bet you guys a whole lot of money that at the end of this movie Nic Cage is going to implode in on himself like a neutron star and usher in the collapse of the universe", "Good point! Would make sense if it was that", "Not the bees!!!!", "I just saw one of his movies where he fights off animatronics and apparently he's mute throughout out the movie. Hilarious! And he dances while he's playing pinball.", ">>He owned 15 properties, including a Bahamian island, gothic and medieval castles in Germany and Somerset and a mansion in New Orleans that was said to be America’s most haunted house. He also spent £220,000 on a 70-million-year-old dinosaur skull, which he later had to return to the Mongolian government.\n>\n>\n>And of course among his huge car collection is a Shelby.\n\nNobody deserves this degree of wealth, least of all an actor.", "Pig was so cheesy… not in a good way.", "Pig was god awful.", "This movie has some actually good and in demand actors in it too, though. \n\nBasically, the script must be good enough for them and not just Nic Cage.. Which is probably a good sign.", "This looks...incredible.\n\nI got serious vibes from Adaptation, not that the plot is the same, but in that it's a Nic Cage movie that gets very meta with it's premise", "There needs to be a scene with him in a superman costume.", "“The Most Nicolas Cage Movie Ever” is a great tag line. I’m fucking there.", "Did you know nic cage is the nephew of francis coppola and his real name is barry whitestone?", "No it's a double reverse. That was just the good one playing both roles, but he was pretending to be the bad one for one of the twins. Acting.", "Yes. Is that relevant?", "Wow. This looks…. Good. The question is will the acting be good, or bad. It’s 50/50. Could be the editing of the trailer, but it looks like pretty good acting.", "I wish I never saw this trailer before watching the movie.", "You're really getting my old sone heart with that one.", "I stopped at the start of S4. You know, I never saw the scene from which the Alison Brie handjob gif originated from", "Meta.", "“Nicolas Cage has said that during the filming of Adaptation, he ignored all of his acting instincts and played the part of Charlie Kaufman exactly as director Spike Jonze asked him to. He then received an Academy Award nomination for it.”", "He was in Red 2 a couple of years ago, which is definitely higher production value than most of his crap nowadays, but I'd stop short of calling it a \"good movie\".", "I recall I was reading a review of \"The Trust\" that stated the film was, and I'm paraphrasing, \"Nicholas Cage at his Nic Cagiest.\" I didn't even read the rest of the review, I just found the movie and watched it. Then I watched it 2 more times over the next week as I convinced friends to view it with me.", "I will ALWAYS watch a Nick Cage movie, because even though it stands a chance of being a dog, it stands just a much of a chance that it will be great. He was absolutely incredible in Pig, the last movie I saw him in. Its like John Wick if John Wick was a Buddhist and had a pig. It's streaming on Hulu.", "Mine too. But my favorite part is the look the professor gives when Troy(?) wants to help him and his “just let him do this” gesture. Gets me every time.", "This looks so great!", "Many actors fall into this box", "Cage to me has always seemed to be the consummate actor: He shows up and does his absolute best to follow his direction. He doesn't judge or question it, he just does it.\n\nAnd honestly he's really damn good at it, one of the best. It sounds silly to say that about the guy who plays himself in 10 movies, but he's worked with new and inexperienced directors to make incredible art. He has the chops and the drive if he's asked to have them, he's just also willing to be an energetic puppet for a hollywood director. \n\nHe seems similar to Adam Sandler in that way. They both have zero shame about making movies being a profession, a job. If they're offered a huge payday for a crap movie they'll gladly take the easy money. When they feel like it they can make incredible movies, often producing/directing themselves in the process. \n\nIt seems very normal and relatable to me. They aren't auteur visionaries with unending passion and creativity, they're just dudes who worked hard and got lucky, and now are living their best lives.", "Like subscribing to ynab for $100 per year.", "I hope they release the original cut and we get to see mr. Cages butt hole.", "Oh, I’m sure it’s not totally unique, I’m just so tired of predictable movie plots. Ugh.", "He has like a 40 year career as a great actor. Was almost Superman", "FUUUUUUCCKKK!!! SHIT SHIT FUCK GODDAMN!!", "Oh I see you’ve been to rehab before", "They shouldn't have revealed the joke in the trailer", "Following the events of Left Behind (yes, Nick Cage made an end of times evangelical shit flick), all of the universes in all of the realities are raptured. We follow Ben Gates (National Treasure) as he discovers this truth; meanwhile, in Hell, Nathan, possessed by An Ancient One (The Color Purple) is slowly converting all of the various Nick Cage villains into eldritch lieutenants and is conquering hell. One of God's Angels discovers this and tries to get the problem solved before God has to get involved, so he follows his friend Ben's advice and counters the evil army of Nick Cages with Heaven's Army of Nick Cages. Hijinks ensue and there's a giant battle of Nick Cages on the fiery plains of Hell featuring cameos from frequent guest stars (we get to watch all of our favorite Nick Cage bad guys win), but ultimately the battle wages on and on and stalemates. Word eventually makes it up to God, who has to come down to Hell and re-establish order. Who plays God? Nicholas Cage, of course.", "Because he constantly needs money. \n\nWhich is, of course, the setup for this movie as well.", "Also some great 90s action flicks like the Rock and Face/Off. And just plain fun schlock grindhouse and B-movies like Drive Angry or Color Out of Space. Even his bad movies are awesome when he really Nic Cages it up.", "From what I've read he spends absurd amounts of money buying castles and dinosaur skeletons and shit, so he basically can't afford to turn down any role", "What part of this story is fictional?", "Adam Sandler is going on vacation with his friends and subsidizing it by filming a movie while they're there. He can do a really great role if he wants (Uncut Gems), but a half-assed picture while hanging out with all of his friends turns out to be just as, if not more, profitable.", "Absolutely agree! I sometimes forget how much I love Face/Off.", "The funniest part about these movies is judging actors by whether they get to play themselves or not in the script.", "I heard he didn't like how the director chose portray him in this movie. Making him out to be this neurotic, crazy guy when in reality he's really down to earth", "/r/InclusiveOr", "Critics on the whole, are trash.", "The premise for this movie would absolutely break Abed’s brain even more than the [“I’m a sexy cat”](https://youtu.be/OuyH89V_HV8).", "I can't wait to see what Ryan George does for it.", "His whole life has been leading up to this moment.", "Wasn't the last season financed by Yahoo!, and shown on some streaming service they had?", "\"Take my money\" jpeg", "Add Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans to that list.", "Jack Black?", "his career is the most enigmatic career of any actor i've ever seen. so many truly great unique performances mixed in with the shittiest canned performances possible.", "This is going to make a trillion dollars.", "Looks like hot garbage", "Dang, that's one I still need to see. My wife wasn't interested, in seeing it, so I threw it onto my mental to-do list, and then kinda forgot about it.", "I love it. Kinda what Van Damme did.", "Nic Cage in your area!", "Troy will help him through it.", "he's been training his whole life for this role", "Nicolas Cage: Good or Bad", "Forget Spider-man. THIS is the movie that gets me back into theaters!", "Top watch list. Extremely good at being…damnit lost my point", "I don’t know if I will ever stop laughing.", "I can't help it. He's a very compelling person.", "Otherwise you get the bees. Oh not the bees!!!!", "I'm pretty sure you're the first person in this thread to spell Nic right when shortening it.", "Man I can’t stand Nic Cage. This looks awesome.", "Did you know that his name actually was NOT Barry Whitestone but actually Albert Kensington", "Willy's Wonderland is pretty cool so far. Tried watching with my daughter who loves Five Nights at Freddy's and all those horror animatronics things. We didn't get far into it before we paused, but it made me realize how much I miss Nic Cage in stuff right from the start. Dude doesn't even say anything. Looking forward to the rest. I hope he has a strong comeback, but keeps doing weird shit, too.", "watch \"Pig\" on amazon prime. Proper oscar worthy performance from Nic", "we was so damn good in Pig.", "I was underwhelmed with this one. I enjoyed Mandy a lot more. It really didn't get creepy/freaky until what happened to the mom and son. And even then it was more just body horror. I wasn't looking for jump scares, I was hoping for more Hereditary styled horror.", "Is this real? I want to believe, but it feels like a prank no?", "It literally is my favorite movie of 2021 (so far - I have a good number of movies to catch up on)", "Wholeheartedly agree, just a really really good movie", "Sweet. This looks good and funny. And looks like they left out politics. Fricking awesome!!!!!", "Gently paws at sunglasses until they fall off while maintaining eye contact", "I didn't think it was boring at all 🤷‍♂️", "Yes", "r/FuckImOld", "Wow critics are stupid then because that series was hilarious.", "I was just telling someone this the other day.\n\nCage got famous for his over the top, screen chewing outbursts in the 90s so that's what the directors wanted. Stuff like Face Off, The Rock and Con Air are hilariously cheesy now but growing up in the 90s those movies were huge. He was Tom Cruise huge for a brief period. \n\nBut he's always had a much better library underneath all that and the last few years he's done something I've not seen a lot of actors do-embrace the image that his fans love. It's paid off well too, films like Mandy are good movies, not just fanservice.", "This feels like Tropic Thunder where they captured Tug Speedman to play Simple Jack over and over", "well fuck me that looks fun as hell!", "I was sold 34 seconds in. WTF is Crude 2?", "Well He is the r/OneTrueGod so who can blame Him?", "Well shit forgot all about Raising Arizona. He was pretty good in Valley Girl too. Havent seen some of those other ones. Think a bit of fatigue set in during the con air / face off / rock / shirley mclean’s (sp) bodyguard movies. Wanted to like that Capn C’s Violin movie but meh\n\nWill have to look up birdy and mandy", "So, who is playing Nic Cage?", "Yeah I didn't love it. It has the world's greatest actor of all time as its star, otherwise it would have nothing going for it. It's just kind of there.", "This is exactly what i needed. This will be like the passion of the christ for christians, just for the people who know who one true god is.", "Why is this so funny?!", "Holy shit this, the drifting episode was amazing. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"This raamen is dry.\"", "Well I think we all knew it wasn't going to be Citizen Kane. The B-level horror is fun, but you're right, without Nic Cage it would undoubtedly be buried in nothingness and forgotten almost instantly. But that's kind of my point. Watching Nic Cage in a shitty movie is a unique kind of awesome.", "thats my guy", "I believe it comes from leaning into the wind if you're walking against it, or at least that's a good way to think of it? You feel like you're getting pushed away, but if you just 'lean into it' you'll get where you want to.", "The voice cast they went through by the end of the series was amazing.", "I’m still waiting for National Treasure 3, but this will do in the meantime", "Ah, and I'm a Lovecraft fan, and I thought it did a really good job of portraying that story", "Literally anything done to Bee Movie wpuld improve it", "Sounds like The Interview", "Reminds you that he is capable of being one of the best actors on the planet. Everybody should see it. \n\nBTW, Power of the Dog on Netflix is also incredible.", "“Fictionalized”", "Remember that edit of LOTR where but every time Sam takes a step towards Mordor he says, “One more step, I’ll be the farthest away from home I’ve ever been” and then someone watched the entire thing? I feel like you could make an edit of Bee Movie but everytime there's a bee, Nic Cage says \"not the bees, not the bees\" and someone would watch it.", "You don’t think this is Cage satirizing himself? Weird take yo", "Oh I think it's a great idea! I just thought it was extraordinarily poorly done. Cage is great, especially the pinball scenes. Everything else is aggressively mediocre.", "i always unironically liked nic cage. Possibly it's because of growing up in india and being relatively young when i watched Ghost Rider and the National Treasure movies. We we're unaware of the kind of meme he'd become to the general public, but he's given me more entertainment than most actors", "Sounds like a boring cash grab. Mad props for them turning his movie career into a clip episode", "Nicolas Cage is that one rare actor who can both be an academy award winner and B-Movie actor depending on the day.\n\nHe hasn't overstayed his welcome, like Bruce Willis or Steven Seagal (gags)\n\nNicolas Cage has his ups and downs, but it seems like everyone is always down to see his latest movie with a fun disposition.", "I'd like to take his tail... OFF!", "I loved [\"The Family Man](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218967/)\" with Tea Leoni and Don Cheadle, also being wonderful. Don did far more with his part than what the script held. All beautifully shot by Dante Spinotti.", "Going to the RFX party tomorrow night?", "He's said that he doesn't like to have free time. Likes to keep working.", ">No, the main character (John Cussack) is creepy and offputting, and it's weird their is an office building that's only half a floor \n\nThat's all true but that doesn't make the movie bad.", "\"Schindler's Fist\" is an amazing title.", "If you asked me this is exactly what Nick needed to get his career back. Comedies that make fun of him or his character are probably going to be his best hits from now on. Not saying he's gonna be A-list or anything, but this is a good sign.", "I think people should stop saying people should stop saying things. 😤", "We've reached the singularity. Funny thing is, even if it's total shit, it'll still work as a \"Nic Cage stars as Nic Cage\" movie. I'm looking forward to it.", "I’m a dude playing a dude pretending not to be another dude", "I've never heard that conspiracy before, but it makes sense now that I think about it. Like, I was a big fan of _Schindler's Fist_, thought it was a great movie. But _Schindler's Pissed_ was really shit in comparison. Makes total sense if it's actually two different actors.", "And here I was thinking his character in \"Mandy\" was the most perfect Cage role of all time.", "Watch him sweep Cher off her feet in [Moonstruck,](https://www.imdb.com/video/vi4032215833?playlistId=tt0093565&ref_=tt_ov_vi) then later tell her, \"I want you in my bed...\" you will believe.", "I think everyone should watch this extremely well made video by In Praise Of Shadows on Nick Cage. https://youtu.be/UJmJ5FbY5RY", "Looking now for rule 34: the unbearable weight of massive penis", "No. He's a dude, playing his own dude in a movie about his own dude.", "Don’t think even Abed would have come up with this premise…", "Haven't seen the show, but I've realized critics get it wrong so often that you shouldn't ever take them seriously.", "No idea what that is. The movie went to like 5 post houses lol. Wish I was.", "The thing I love about cage matches is that they always work out., If they didn't work out, they'd still be in the cage", "Excuse me national treasure at least the first one and the second ghost writer are entertaining movies. I'm not calling them great, but I am calling them entertaining.", "I actually liked The Color Out Of Space too.", "OK, so that legit looks awesome. This will either be spectacular...or godawful. I'm hopping it's the former, because my man Cage needs a bit of a comeback...\"not that he ever left\", haha. Plus, it's got Doogie Howser in it...I'll watch that mothefucker any day.", "It's basically a worse JCVD", "This movie concept is something nic cage fans have been wanting from him for years! This is gonna be hilarious if done right.", "He's said it's because he was channelling his vampires kiss character to go fully insane", "Cage cage cage. Cage cage cage cage cage. Cage cage?", "Got to be the most cringe actor on the planet, I can't stand anything he's in.", "I heard about this movie sometime last year and I thought it was a fever dream… I’m so glad there’s a trailer now", "Nic Cage and Pedro Pascal in the same movie. I am all in.", "I preferred Jean Claude’s Damn Van", "Or anything Jeff Goldblum has done in the last five years.", "definitely hard to bear what you don't have", "I'm in.", "Did he stutter?\n\n>I'm in\n\n -erkdaclerk", "Just make sure you hunt down the now apocryphal D&D episode.", "Commit thoroughly to something.", "And the narration immediately resumes with someone else.", "Poor Abed", "Something just seems off. Too slapsticky / trying too hard. The tone is like the people that think loving BACON be their personality is funny. Surface level internet humor shit. Who knows I’m just a random jaded asshole! Go enjoy it, It’ll be fun!", "I heard this description in southpark voice.", "That 1 season was gold. Such a shame we didn't get another one.", "It's fine because no matter the film, he always gives 178%.", "I am more than ready to see this man in big films again.", "It's been awhile since I've seen that subreddit referenced. Brings me back to simpler times.", "I'm cat....a sexy cat....", "Idc what anyone says I love the National Treasure movies.", "Oh how I wish they would make a Larry David movie starring Larry David", "And the voice over stopped at that point in the movie.", "The next one will be Nick Cage playing Nick Cage who has to partner up with Keanu Reaves playing Keanu Reaves playing The One. They have to travel through time to every movie they’ve ever acted in to save the world and get back Nick Cage’s inner cage and Keanu Reaves’ oneness. All narrated by Morgan Freeman as God. At some point they also run into Robert Downey Jr. who is playing himself, who’s playing the dude, who’s playing the dude disguised as another dude. And also Jack Black shows up with the spirit of a teenage girl inside of him. \n\nThe third one will star the duo again having to save not just the world but all of time and existence. This one will bring in Deadpool staring as Ryan Reynolds after he just voiced Detective Pikachu but turns out to be the dad (spoiler alert) Deadpool as Ryan Reynolds is the only one that can combine his 4th wall breaking powers with Keanu Reaves’ oneness and Nick Cage’s inner cage to save existence as we know it. The trio will not be able to overcome their differences and will go their separate ways until Chuck Norris shows up as the boss of God (Morgan Freeman) to show them the true meaning of Christmas.", "Vampires Kiss is hands down one of my favorite movies. That goddamn file.", "He just made the wrong decision between paying taxes and buying castles and fossils.", "Ok... but is he good or bad?", "It makes perfect sense, that’s why Adaptation turned out to be one of his good movies.", "Hey, NEXT was okay.", "Birdy is from the '80s, and it's him and Matthew Modine playing teenagers in the late '60s. It's got an amazing Peter Gabriel score, and I just love the story it tells. Based on a William Wharton book. Oh, and I'm pretty sure it's on Prime, if you're a subscriber\n\nMandy is recent, and is a dark, crazy, hallucinatory horror flick. It also has an amazing score, this time by Johann Johannsson. This one I'd say just watch a trailer - if that doesn't get your interest, it's probably not for you, but my wife and I completely love it", "That writer tends to write pretty odd films that break the fourth wall or play around with what the viewer knows and doesn't know. That's all. I am not going to sit here and pretend Im an expert on this movie based on a single trailer, though.", "The Della Duck story arc is soooo good", "Peak of human progress and we get nothing but perfection from this man.", "This Nic Cage documentary looks sick.", "This comment has brought me so much happiness.", "ok... this is fucking awesome", "r/babyfaceknees", "wow I need to rewatch. Could prob do all kaufmans again he is inimitable", "Not even the whole movie he can be good in one scene and trash in the next.", "This is the dumbest idea ever. \n\nSomething a bunch of drunk comedians would make shooting the shit back and forth. \n\nI love it. I’m going to watch.", "I need diamond dogg, billy bedlam, and Cyrus the virus cameos or I’m not seeing this.\n\n\n\nAlright I’ll probably still see it.", "One of my absolute favorite movies", "> Just to be clear, based on the other comments, you're talking about the movie or Nic Cage's butthole?", "Please, please please have a reference to the Action Comics #1 incident.", "I think the reason why nobody has ever really stepped up as a replacement for Roger Ebert is because most critics only care about the art form.\n\nSomewhere along the way it feels like most critics forgot that sometimes a movie is just fun, not serious, and that's fine. People loved Roger's opinions because he was always able to say, honestly, that something may have not been great artistically but it was still a lot of fun.\n\nModern critics don't really feel like they represent or value the same things the average film-goer does anymore. They should stick to reviewing festival stuff.", "Holy shit this looks amazing", "Being John Malkovich is such a great movie. This sequel should be swell!", "I did not expect Blackpink for a second there. Lol", ">Nic Cage's butthole\n\nI saw them open for Blink-182 at the Orpheum in '03", "Probably, but to this day if I can stop people from ruining their life by watching s9 of scrubs, I will.", "I think this is friggin perfect!", "I want to watch this so bad. This is what a trailer should do.", "I really feel like Keanu Reeves would be a lot better at getting into the mindset of this character, but Nicolas Cage might still be okay.", "I fully subscribe to the idea that Nicholas Cage is some kind of expressionist genius. So many actors are so focused on putting forth realistic performances, I think cage isn't particularly interested in being realistic.\n\n\n I don't know what the fuck he's doing but I like it", "Whos with me?!", "I dunno, I can't see it being written as an homage to Wesley Snipes. From what I've heard, people actually like working with Nic Cage. I've never heard anything good about working with Snipes.", "You mean Adaptation?", "This is like Spaceball 1 going plaid.", "Son of a bitch im in.", "It gets passed over a lot because of the stupid name. It has nothing to do with the Abel Ferrara/Harvey Keitel film; only shared a producer as far as I know. Just another story about a corrupt cop. It has some peak Cage moments in it but is also a really compelling crime story.", "You know what makes someone the Real One? Being able to poke fun at one's self.", "COOL", "People don't understand Cage's acting. He's not trying to be naturalistic or follow 'method actor' style. He draws his inspiration from the old German Expressionist films of the 1920s and 1930s. Sometimes he has fun with it and takes it as far as he can and it gets very over-the-top. That's all by his own account. He says exactly what he's doing, yet a lot of people somehow don't seem to get it.\n\nThing is that they confuse non-naturalistic acting with _bad_ acting when they're not the same at all. If they were, all theater actors would be \"bad\", as theater acting requires bigger gestures and so on. The difference isn't whether it's _actually_ realistic, it's whether the audience _believes it_. Bad acting is when you don't, when it feels hammy and contrived; that they're playing to the camera.\n\nFor an actor that's more theatrical and non-naturalistic, there's a bigger risk of crossing into that territory than someone who plays it subtle. Cage is a risk-taker, and the chances he takes don't always pan out. (And that's where directing and editing can enter into it)", "Ay, yo Dog!", "There is no ninth season of Scrubs.", "Yeah but that would be figurative. Leaning into something is a conscious decision someone makes.", "I love this", "“You had me at ‘Nick Cage.’”", "Cool. Cool cool cool.", "It's the Nic Cage version of \"My name is Bruce\"", "Exactly...hes just wasteful with his money and has to take on shitty movies", "I think he doesn't owe the irs money anymore and just does it for the hell of it now.", "Marc Coppola (Nick's brother) was more or less just used as a body double on that film. Can confirm. Worked as a PA on that shoot.", "If you thought he had a good right hook in a bear suit. Just imagine that with the added agility of a housecat", "With or without cgi cat buttholes?", "So will it have references to the movie where he steals the declaration of independence?", "I am SO down for this! Best movie trailer I’ve seen in ages. Also I’m watching Nic Cage in the Family Man right now and he honestly never stops being great", "He literally goes the entire movie without saying a single thing, it's hilarious.", "Please let Abed show up as an Easter Egg, please.", "I can wait for this movie, but I can't wait for the 'How did this get made' episode of this movie.", "[Welcome…. to Park](https://youtu.be/zsMpFb1CNRI)", "Totally different situation. You have an obligation to disclose about season 9. Community was just a change in leadership, Scrubs actually ended and then they packaged their failed spinoff as a season 9.", "Abed's gonna break again.", "Creatively unfulfilled and facing financial ruin, this fictionalized version of Nicholas Cage\n\n\nUh…fictionalized? This is pretty spot on to his life since like 2006", "Somebody get this idea over to Nic Cage, and I bet it'll goddamn happen", "Did you watch Willys wonderland? Starring nick cage who doesn't speak once in the entire movie despite being on screen for the vast majority of the movie. There is no other main character.", "Right on. Thanks for the tips!", ">gothic castle\n\nI’m here for the magic", "Going from a solid C actor to a B?", "Money well spent.", "r/obamasankles", "That show will chang your whole life.", "Raising Arizona. SMH.", "You contributed to a fantastic piece of work!", "This is like the Nick Cage version of Backdoor Sluts 9.", "> He's doing more movies lately that actually utilize his talent\n\nHe released THREE movies this year. Take a look at Willy's Wonderland and let me know if you still support your statement.", "It feels more like the Nick Cage version of JCVD to me.", "Rookie mistake, you attempted to choose something unappealing and wound up picking the best possible thing.", "Look, I'll you a story, alright? I once fell deeply, ya know, profoundly in love with tropical fish. I had sixty goddamn fish tanks in my house! I'd skin-dive to find just the right ones...Anisotremus virginicus, Holacanthus ciliaris, Chaetodon capistratus. You name it. Then one day I say, \"fuck fish. I renounce fish\". I vow to never set foot in the ocean again, that's how much fuck fish. That was seventeen years ago and I have never since stuck so much as a toe into that ocean. And I love the ocean!", "SOMEONE'S TRYIN' TO KILL ME, MAAAAAAAAAN‽", "Yeah I would fucking see that in theatres", "He didn't actually have that level of wealth as it turns out, which is why he ended up in some financial straits", "The fucking street-racing scene obliterated my sides.", ">\tthe seminal award-winning actor\n\nI like Nic Cage as much as the next guy, but how is he “seminal”? That word is used for works that inspire or create an entire genre. Like you might say that Romero’s Dawn of the Dead is a seminal piece of work, or that Doom is a seminal video game… but Nic Cage is just Nic Cage. He’s whack-a-doo and entertaining as hell, but he’s not seminal.\n\nI suspect whoever wrote that didn’t really know what the term meant, and had just absorbed the meaning from context, thinking it meant “really awesome”.", "Well, I mean, wouldn't you? If you realized you could make dump trucks of money doing really easy jobs really quickly?", "I know it’s only a small part, but that movie is so perfect in every way it still deserves a mention.", "You son of a bitch, I’m in!", "I'm in.", "This might be what finally breaks Abed.", "Watch Primal.", "I loved that movie, went to a random theater an hour away to see the only showing of it. Nic cage was perfect, the whole time he's just doing nic cage things and noone reacts and its like is he insane, is everyone insane, does noone else see this, did they even tell nic cage to do those things?", "Haven't even heard of it, been living under a rock. What did you like about it?", "Or My Name is Bruce", "I didn't read that Lovecraft story. I went into it pretty blind. The closest thing to a Lovecraft based film that I saw was Carpenter's \"In the Mouth of Madness\". I really liked that one. I'm guessing the alien scene in Creepshow borrowed heavily from the book \"Color out of Space\", since there seemed to be a decent amount of parallels. Maybe that tainted my opinion before seeing the film because I definitely was reminded of that as Cage's character started having issues with his arms and started going crazy.", "Out of curiosity, what recent movies do you think critics on the whole were wrong about?", "He's not just our guy. He is our One True God.", "Lol what hairline?", "That's high praise.", "I thought Willy's Wonderland was pretty good", "That was dumbest movie ever. But I loved it. Out of obligation. Lol", "bagel", "Naturally. I have the top review for it on Amazon right now :) I have to say though Army of One was the surprise stand out.", "[It felt like such a cool little secret.](https://www.reddit.com/r/onetruegod/comments/rfkd89/ronetruegod_you_are_not_ready_for_this_movie)", "Can we meet halfway here and cover the buttholes with pictures of Nicolas Cage imitating a butthole with his lips?", "Could have saved a few dollars using him also.", "Have you ever seen her without bangs?", "[Five Thirty Eight](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-five-types-of-nicolas-cage-movies/) has a great take on Nicholas Cage.", "Looks pretty fun, but that last joke was pretty bad. Don't explain the joke.", "It did, lions gate themselves posted the teaser there,lmao.", "Unpopular opinion: season 5 was worse than 4. Guarascio and Port missed what made Community great, but Harmon did not manage to pick the momentum back up in season 5 and definitely did not earn the right to make those dismissive jokes about season 4.\n\n\nEDIT: just remembered season 6 was also a thing and dear God was that terrible. TV writers should really end their series once they're out of ideas.", "It kinda reminds me of JCVD with Van Damme, but with Nic Cage and humor.", "The official lionsgate reddit handle posted the trailer there - its stickied now and everyone is losing their shit!", "B team actor king Nickolas Cage with supporting BBB king actor Bruce Willis.", "The trailer had completely sold me on it, with the lucky crack pipe and the iguanas, but it ended up getting filed in a disused party of my brain, apparently. I will definitely check it out. I think it was the name that turned my wife off to it. I think the Ferrara film is incredible, but it's one of those movies I never wanted to watch again. Watching someone willfully self destruct is rough (kinda like Cage in Leaving Las Vegas). I could tell the Cage Bad Lieutenant was a completely different thing just from that trailer.", "This is truly the peak of his career.", "lmao", "Don't stare too deep into that abyss son. \n\nYou're like one step from going full Abed", "I think the hive swarm-murdering the CEO of the corporation that had essentially reduced them to a state of serfdom would be far more satisfying than an animated legal drama-comedy.", "When he put the blindfold on in the car race, I said out loud \"well I'm sold.\"", "I am *nont* a \"fan\" of \"mr. Cage\" but I am going to watch the fuck out of this movie", "Pig is a masterpiece. Such an unexpectedly moving tale, with a powerful performance from Cage.", "I shall add this to list of movies I will need to watch while completely shitfaced.", "I bet that would be a hundred fucking times better than the original.", "If you say it with a Sean Connery accent, Just in Cage is perfect.", "If you've got a few free minutes (I don't want to put a number on it, but I can complete it during a long poop, usually), I'd recommend it. It's one of the more approachable Lovecraft stories. You don't need to know anything going in, which is why I often recommend it to first time Lovecraft readers. Like most of Lovecraft, you can find it free online or in one of various physical collections\n\nLoved In the Mouth of Madness, going to have to watch that one again with the wife. I just showed her Color Out of Space the other day, and she liked it enough that she's been asking about his stories.\n\nUltimately, different strokes for different folks! Everyone connects with a different Lovecraft story/ rendition of that story.", "This guys seriously a workaholic! Does he ever take a break from this ridiculous pace??", "Yep, he got a taste of box office action success with The Rock, but before that there was Leaving Las Vegas, Raising Arizona, and Red Rock West.", "Part of me is like WTF and their other is intriguing disgusted and want to watch it. Not in theaters but watch it", "Nic and Morty\n\nEdit: The Council of Nics", "Brian Cox was playing a real person, [Bob McKee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McKee), who actually did screenwriting lectures.", "This looks really good. I'd watch this.", "Also the only time in the history of the Academy Awards in which a fake person was nominated for an award.", "Still waiting on the 4 hour Art house film where it's just Nicolas Cage in a white featureless room speaking directly to the viewer about what ever crosses his mind. No cuts, fixed camera angle, simply titled \"Cage\"", "The studio literally posted a trailer in that subreddit, it was wild", "I had always heard \"Nicolas Cage movies are 10x better when you picture Nic Cage not knowing he's in a movie\"", "took me years to realize the movie was an... adaptation. I felt so fucking stupid when I figured that out.", "who's the buttfucking cool chick?", "Lmao Jesus this looks like fun", "Shut up and take my money!", "wallys was probably the worst cage I've seen in ages. mom and dad was great, the trust, between worlds was bad in a good way, very watchable, an all time masterpiece was dying of the light. it's like cage tried his hardest to deliver his lines in the most obtuse was possible to try to inject some life into an otherwise extremely bland story. fantastic. left behind is easily the worst movie he's ever been in, but it's so bad it's fun", "Dude. You should really stop saying that.", "Yes please.", "Joe is still one of the best movies he's ever been in, god I loved his acting.", "you son of a bitch! I'm in.", "> ??? Face/off is literally his best film\n\nI mean the movie is a hilariously dumb classic, but he has done way better movies than that. same with travolta. neither of them really showcased their acting chops, it was jsut a silly action movie with a monstrously dumb and lovable plot.", "how you gonna leave adaptation high and dry", "Ok so here's why that doesnt work. Nicolas cage is always good. He's never sucked in a single role. The problem is he picks terrible movies", "That’s because he makes about 75,000 movies a year.", "Pig", "me & the boys every time we smoke a J in nature", "Which is basically what Adaptation was...", "Kind of odd/awesome to see Pedro Pascal riding along with this.", "No that’s his brother Nicolas Cage.", "Reading your comment is the first time I learned that it's a real book, and not just part of the movie", "Imagine Nicolas Cage win an Oscar award for playing Nick Cage in a movie about Nick Cage. This is pretty *EXCITING!!! My nerve is shaking. Literally can't wait for this.", "His whole life has been him method acting for this role.", "Raising Arizona. If you haven't seen that, you should", "Cage has spoken out that he wasn't happy with this movie. So I won't be seeing it. He's really cool.", "This is the Nick Cage version of Galaxy Quest.", "Ok. I'll bite. It's looks weird. Like Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich .... With explosions I guess? Sure why not.", "Very good. You will enjoy it!", "Excited for thisss!!! Nicolas Cage is one of my favorite actor. Most of his movies are totally amazing.", "Sounds like a similar storyline to “My name is Bruce” except instead of zombies we have a drug lord", "Definitely won't be watching this one.\n \nThought it couldn't get any worse than just watching a Nicolas Cage movie.\n\nBut Nicolas Cage playing himself? \n \nI'd rather eat roadkill.", "First time someone in hollywood did something right", "I'm all in.", "People don't want good things to end. They want bad things to end. For every show that had a terrible last season, there's a great show that ended too soon. You're either cancelled Firefly or you last to be Game of Thrones.", "Sometimes a thing happens in the world that you never knew you needed and fills your soul with so much hope and joy that the crushing weight of the universe seems to lift just a little bit off of your chest and you can breath the sweet air of life just a little deeper than usual.", "This is like the Nick Cage version of your mom.", "Dude collects pictures and videos of dead people.....\n\nhttps://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/09/blind-items-revealed-2_16.html\n\nAs to why he keeps getting paid big money for, well....whatever you would call it\n\nhttps://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2019/07/blind-items-revealed-3_4.html\n\nIt's a gossip blog but drops there have in the past caused celebrities to change their behavior/do u-turns and accuracy is consistently in the 90+% range...\n\nhttps://www.crazydaysandnights.net/search?q=nicolas+cage&max-results=8&by-date=true", "You mean like Pig or Colour Out of Space which were both really good or his voice work in Spider-Man or The Croods?", "He looks great in a beard.\n\nNow I'm wondering how NPH would look with one.", "Wow amazing", "Adaptation was a movie about Charlie Kaufman's struggle to write an adaptation of the book The Orchid Thief, a true story autobiography that Kaufman had been asked to adapt for the screen. He struggled with the writing process to the point where he wrote himself into the movie, struggling to adapt the book into the movie while staying true to the narrative. In the movie, Kaufman visits the set of the movie Being John Malkovich as part of a fictional series of events that actually happened but differently. \n\nWe see the fictional version of a true story of telling a fictional version of a true story during which we see the fictional version of the true story of telling a fictional story about actually being a real person.", "Dude Willy’s was an absolute banger. 0 dialogue from Cage and totally over the top. I loved it.", "I'm in", "Willys wonderland was fucking amazing", "I'd be curious to see what his Superman would have been.", "Remember your ABCs: Always Be Cageing.", "I'm worried this might be too self aware to be good, well bad-good it's Nick Cage you know what I mean.", "God damn, I'd forgotten* about them!", "\"NOT THE MARTHA\"", "Wow. Very fun trailer. Looks like a must watch.", "I love that he is embracing his meme of a life.", "Based on the blurbs, within the movie he goes as Nick Cage, as to other people making the mistake, it's an easy mistake to make since both are common depending on the person.", "I just want to know how they didn't mention his best film.\n\nI'M A VAMPIRE I'M A VAMPIRE I'M A VAMPIRE I'M A VAMPIRE", "Finally, a role worthy of Nicolas.", "One of my favorite movies but more than that, one of my favorite acting performances ever in Nic Cage playing the twin brothers. \n\n\nHis ability to play a fully arrogant/funny. brother, and anxious brother at the same time was incredible and 100% believable. I really thought he should have won a 2nd oscar that year. Although he was at least nominated.", "It kind of feels like he's channeling Sacha Baron Cohen. Looks like a fun movie.", "I’m loving this trailer! I just hope Tiffany haddish has a small role in it, she’s not funny at all", "I’d watch that", "NGL, this is my most anticipated movie after No Way Home.", "[Using this opportunity to plug an absolutely awful video.](https://youtu.be/NmpAx8Z5z40)", "That made no sense. That was the least intriguing trailer I’ve ever seen", "If you watch this trailer he offers the guy 20k for a figure of himself that he described as grotesque. This movie is not pulling punches it doesn't seem.", "Next manages to explain how all the Nic Cage movies take place in the same complex timeline.", "I'm sold.", "Well too bad bucko. Kids don't deserve to die en utero from cancer but life sucks and your random soapboxing is helping none of it.", "I respect your opinion but I'll have to disagree. It was a fantastic movie and wasn't boring at all.", "Maybe I will. I decided years ago I'd never watch another movie he starred in. Lol", "He was born for the part!", "And Elijah Woods as Daniel Radcliffe and Daniel Radcliffe as Elijah Woods.", "Hell yeah", "Holy. Shit.", "Always Be Cageing (love the scenery in that show)", "i'm not a cage fan but i'll watch this", "This is either going to be on the level of being john malkovich, or an absolute failure. I can't wait to see it :D", "I totally wanna see this", "I feel this was needed", "Malkovich.", "This is the first movie I've been excited about in years.", "I wasn’t hating. I think he’s a genuinely great actor with an amazing range. It’s just pretty obvious when his heart is not in a role. Also I think he’s just become kind of a meme to a lot of younger people because of his big quick-buck films. And his hair is an eagle.\n\n//also: [Michael Caine](https://youtu.be/HFIQIpC5_wY) from The Trip which is such a great movie.", "Malkovich.", "Someone had better let Abed know asap", "This is the PERFECT Nic Cage movie. I’m even seeing people in comments saying “I’m not even a Nicolas Cage fan and I’d see it”.", "Good nic cage movies just hit different. I don’t know why", "So the problem I have with it is I have lived the restaurant worker/drugs/party/crazy lifestyle and.....there are no hospitality worker fight clubs. That is just dumb. It only existed to make that dude's dad seem more threatening and it was unnecessary", "Blackpink ❤", "Wearing a mask isn’t dragon born", ">All you have to say is \"This is like the Nick Cage version of\" and I'm in. \n> \n>All you have to say is \"This is like the Nick Cage version of\" and I'm out.\n\nThose will be the only two types of people, I feel like no one is going to be in the middle lol", "I wonder if he wrote himself into the movie and there will be 2 of him?", "Finally! The role he was born to play", "This is in my top Community quotes, I have used it out in public lol", "\"No, I'm 44 years old. Why the f--- would I have seen Croods 2. I've seen Face/Off... and Con Air.\"\n\nI'm a millennial and I relate to this.", "worst actor ever\n\nokay, definitely not the worst but he's just terrible. He plays himself in every single movie he's ever been in.\n\nIt takes a lot to be worse than Tommy Wiseau yet somehow admired. Nic Cage has achieved that.", "So.... it's My Name is Bruce, but the Nick Cage version. https://youtu.be/pfROegSomiw", "I remember reading about this movie being in production a while ago. I almost didnt believe it, then I remembered its Cage, so its probably real.", "Ehh, I think he’s given 176% a time or two.", "Would love a cameo of Andy Samberg as Nicolas cage", "What, and I can't emphasize this enough, the EVERLIVING FUCK?", "Cageception", "Surprised it wasn't [whatever the fuck this is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpAx8Z5z40)", "Go watch Mandy. It’s balls to the wall fun.", "Who would have known being the son of Hollywood royalty would confer benefits for a career in Hollywood...if I didn't know better, I'd say there was something fishy going on....", "they would most likely show a pig and one of the characters would comment that \"do you know that pigs are used for truffle hunting ?\"", "Upon my first glance at this post, my eyes for some reason thought the pic was some kind of video game. Then as I read the text, my brain made up this idea that Nick Cage was going to be playing this video game starring himself. \n\nNow I’m kind of sad that this doesn’t exist. Not the video game, necessarily, but a video of Nick Cage playing a video game that stars himself. I think I need that in my life.", "A movie where every role is played by cage only the costumes can help you tell them apart.", "Well that's going to be a flaming turn of a movie", "Yeah imma see this", "This just seems like a riff on the concept of the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie JCVD. Still it looks like a lot of fun!", "It feels like it could be a bit similar to JCVD, that was my initial thought after watching the trailer.", "Fine. I’ll take one for the team. \n\n\nSo, we’re gonna pay to watch Nick Cage suck at playing Nick Cage??", "This is a very big, very ambitious swing. I can see it being either amazing or awful ... I don't see much of a middle path.", "Now I want a movie of Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise.", "What do you mean by that?", "HOW'D IT GET BURNED?", "Is this movie coming out on the metaverse? /s", "Don't we all constantly need money?", "He’s the ultimate method actor. His whole career was merely him getting into character for this single movie", "Technically it doesn’t, since da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa with eyebrows that were removed during a botched cleaning in the early 1900s. \n\nBut it’d be like if you didn’t have any eyebrows, and then dressed up as the Mona Lisa for Halloween.", "Producer: Ok guys, let's brainstorm this issue. Who are we gonna get to play role of Cage? Anybody have some ideas?", "When an actor gets to the point that they can star as themselves in a movie poking fun at their own career, you know it's going to be fucking glorious.\n\nSee: My Name is Bruce, JCVD, and now, this upcoming masterpiece.", "I like that Nic is like his own movie industry now.", "Kaufman seems to be all about the meta. I was talking about this the other day and someone was comparing Synecdoche, New York to The Matrix. I never looked at it that way but its spot on.", "That's actually what he said about it. The director wanted more crazy internet Nick Cage but he wanted to play it more like himself. He apparently said that he wasn't happy with the decision but gave them what they want and that he wasn't going to watch it.", "That would be too good to exist", "I love everything about this", "Intrigued Brita stare...", "It's also because he has a very eccentric acting style. I remember he described channeling 'the cabinet of dr. Cagliari' in one of his most iconic roles.", "Check this Nic Cage story \nI was in Little Tokyo LA in the summer of this year. It was like, 90 degrees. One of the hottest days of the year. I'm in shorts, t-shirt, and flip flops, dying. I'm walking down the sidewalk and I see this dude walking toward me. Dude is in FULL BLACK LEATHER. Long tight black leather pants, heavy leather jacket, black shades, hair slicked back. Dude is walking with a super hot, younger woman wearing a dress. I'm walking toward this dude and I just need to see his face, I wanna see the madman that would do this to himself. As I get closer... Nic Cage, looking calm and confident as fuck.", "Love that show. Want more!", "Not the OP but it was in my top three of the year. I don't want to say too much because I was happy I went in blind but it's definitely a tale of dealing with grief", "Pedro Pascal? ... which reminds me I really wish they would make an Equalizer 3.", "I caught him going into that voice so that's hilarious to hear", "Also, never end a film with a deus ex machina-\n\nAdaptation ends with deus ex machina", "Ahem, I believe you mean right decision.", "Wait wait wait wait wait. Are you telling me that there's an original idea coming out of Hollywood?", "This is going to be so much fun to watch", "Think of something safe! Like Holly Hunter.. or... Don Cheadle!", "And being John Malkovich", "This is fucking amazing", "A dude who plays the same dude ,dressed as the the same dude.", "Fuck to the yes", "I saw Nick Cage eat a whole shrimp, even the tail once. Legend.", "The screenplay is credited to Charlie and Donald Kaufman. Donald Kaufman doesn’t exist.", "Is that... Blackpink?", "This has to be the most fantastic premise for a movie that I have ever seen.", "As someone who wasn't really a fan of him but semi into action movies growing up, the show was still incredible. Such a fun show.", "All In!", "There's a brand new film coming in a few days\n\nAbout Nic Cage, and it will amaze\n\nYou've watched his movies your entire life\n\nIt's not made up, it's not made up.", "If you read your comment in Nic Cage’s voice/cadence, it’s even funnier.", "He was great in Mandy too!", "I wish I had the streaming service to watch it.", "It's the unreleased butthole version.", "Same.", "So hyped they casted Nicolas Cage for this!", "For sure. People think I'm saying it to be funny, but he really is a great actor.", "And Abed.", "Obligatory Roger Ebert [quote](https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/drive-angry-3d-2011):\n\n>Cage is a good actor in good movies, and an almost indispensable actor in bad ones.", "You can't make a wrong decision buying castles and fosss, that's always the right decision! The failure was not making them tax deductible!!", "But he's not getting his hands on that best sound direction Oscar!", "Kind of reminds of of Matt LeBlanc’s role in Episodes. I dig meta concepts like this!", "Looks watchable. I'm just surprised that he spells it without and \"h.\" I never noticed that before.", "I wonder if this will be Canon in the Cage-e-verse or not.", "Finally a trailer that gets me. I’m definitely watching this.", "I will see this.", "If he doesn’t embrace his inner sexy cat in at least one scene I will simply walk out.", "He’s back.", "Nicolas Cage imitates Nick Cage imitates Nicolas Cage", "Then wash it down with some LSD and watch Mandy", "This is like the Nick Cage version of Schindler's List", "Malkovich?", "Wow really? That looked like another C movie, guess I’ll take a chance.", "Nothing is the anything version of Being John Malkovich, you take that back !", "It looks nothing like Being John Malkovich. Have you seen Being John Malkovich? It's a supernatural film about a puppet master gaining the ability to enter John Malkovich's mind and control his body. It is not even remotely a comedy or light-hearted at all. This looks like the opposite of that\n\nThis movie looks exactly like The Interview tbh", "Honestly that description sounds almost identical to the plot of The Interview", "A Keanu Reeves version would be better", "redbuttons.jpg", "Pig is worth a watch. It’s the first movie I’ve seen by him in a long time that was not only good, but REALLY good.", "he is hit and miss like you wouldn't believe. some of his movies are genuinely some of the best I have ever watched, and some are just terrible. I went through his filmography and his best movies are years behind us. but he does have fantastic acting chops in certain situation. its like Adam Sandler. always takes the same role, himself. usually, you can expect his movies to be ok, but the same old stuff. same with cage. better average tho. I looked at cages filmography and there is SO FUCKING MANY. but recently when Sandler didn't do that, the movie Uncut Gems was fucking way out there. the tension built in the movie made me physically uncomfortable. with the reviews some redditers gave Pig, maybe its one of the rare Cage gems. I will smoke weed and watch it tonight.", "Man Charlie kauffman has been on Hiatus for over a decade", "The meme material to come from this will be endless", "$1,644 a night. I guess not outside of reason for a star living above his means.", "Ah, the Adam Sandler approach.", "He's just a dude playing that dude disguised as the same dude", "Add Deadfall to that list.", "I absolutely love Primal but I’m not seeing the connection", "My body is ready", "Must fucking see", "Outstanding. I will take my triple vaxxed ass to the theater to watch this.", "Oh man im excited", "The black chicks husband ruins the trailer", "Can we just have nic cage in the MCU!?! He’s an Oscar winner and talented asf!!!", "My first official date with the woman that would be my wife was a picnic in a local apple orchard. I prepared gazpacho (a chilled vegetable soup), lobster salad sandwiches, a baguette with cheese, and of course, wine.\n\nWhen the farmer or farm hand drove by on a tractor, we thought we would surely be asked to leave, but he just smiled and waved as he continued on his way.\n\nWhen you think of stereotypical picnic pests, ants usually come to mind, followed by bears that wish to steal your pic-a-nic basket. But do you know what you get in an apple orchard? [Bees](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVCrmXW6-Pk). Lots of bees.\n\nOn the way back to work from the picnic, she asked if I had a toothpick. I offered her the plastic one from my Swiss Army knife, which she used, then promptly tossed out the car window. I married her anyway.", "I still have so many questions with Prisoners of the Ghostland", "Really interesting what qualifies for a red band trailer now. Seems like it was just because they said \"Fuck\".", "If Charlie Kaufman hadn’t got lost up his own asshole, he would have thought of this first.", "Someone literally asked me to lean into something today and you're blowing my mind dude.", "He totally Britta'd it!", "Anybody else getting major 'Jean Claude Van Johnson' vibes from this?\n\nIt's a very similar story and it seemed to work really well for JCVD so i'm curious to see this movie.", "Omg it’s here", "There’s actually a game on Tabletop Simulator called Cage Match that my friends and I played during lockdown. It’s just Guess Who but with only Nicolas Cage faces. It’s so dumb but we had a blast", "At this point in Nicolas Cage's career, I'd believe the Hollywood lore behind his debt. According to the[ Googles](https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+movies+has+nicolas+cage+been+in&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS606US607&oq=how+many+movies+has+nicolas+cage+been+in&aqs=chrome.0.0i512.14170j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8), he has appeared in 121 movies. If he has a net loss over that many credits in film, this movie is more of a documentary inside the actor's mind than we're giving it recognition for", "Tyler Perry is gonna be pissed.", "He should of accepted the role of Aragon in LOTR. That other guy was lord of the fairies.", "“Fictionalized”… right", "looking through my fetishes oh, Britta’s in this?", "Is this the movie that was memed into reality?", "Maybe this is the sign you needed to follow their advice", "That’s high praise", "Movie of the year 2022", "I believe it is….checks notes… Zeus’ butthole.", "Oh no he has become self aware.", "That composited scene with Neil Patrick Harris looks absolutely terrible.", "That is really overselling it. Was a decent watch, but nothing particularly memorable.", "Really? I got about 20 minutes in, turned it off and never looked back.", "Was expecting a fan parody... but I was pleasantly surprised :-)", "Mandy was great, definitely avant-garde but I had no expectations going in and it blew me out of my seat. Color Out of Space overall was a decent move, but I think Cage did a great job in it. I don't know what was going on for a few years but he had some strong showings in a few more indie movies. I haven't seen Pig yet but I'm excited to see what I imagine is a culinary action drama movie.", "A complete nut case or a man on a mission in a highly unusual world. The very meta premise might work since reality is often absurd", "I'm leaning into trying to understand this phrase", "A movie about a living Meme-lord. 10/10 would watch for the premise alone.", "Jan Quadrant Vincent 16", "So like... big dick energy? \n\nJohnny wasn't saddened by the fact a horrific accident took one of his legs. In fact, for Halloween, he leaned into it and dressed up as RoboCop.\n\nAm I using the phrase correctly there?", "Haha, same. I was convinced that he said this in the sketch too, even in the same voice. Seems he didn't though. Brains are weird sometimes...", "Yeah exactly. \n\nOr if Johnny put on a peg leg and dressed up as a pirate.", "Interesting choice to use kpop in an American movie trailer. Not sure if that was intentional to relate to his life or not", "It dips after dan Harmon dipped", "Aww hell yeah! Thanks, holmes! :)", "Fully disagree. Cage has been non-mediocre or worse in only one role: adaptation. Every other role he is distractingly bad. This is just my opinion though. I think he’s incredibly cheesy and overacts even in good movies.", "I'm still only seeing words damn it", "Honestly I loved the film. I could see how a lot of people didn't like it though. After all it just sort of played down the entire half of the movie pretty much.", "As much as I love the mean, I’m concerned by that, really crap jokes, seems to be played too self aware and doesn’t seem weird enough, like they know he’s a walking meme and the idea of the movie is all people need to go see it. Snakes on a Plane stuff.\n\nCage should be screaming at demons and doing coke off an axe to be enjoyed to the full, I don’t see that here. I hope I’m wrong and it goes full Fear & Loathing but there’s no hint of it there.", "It looks great. Will definitely be watching it.", "I've seen someone else without bangs and it had Zooey Deschanel written underneath the photo!", "It could be loosely inspired by his own history of financial troubles. It's why he had a string of shitty roles - he desperately needed cash.\n\nAnother layer.", "This is the only mention of Matchstick Men I could find in this whole post. I feel like not enough people saw that movie, and it might be my favorite of his. It's also the movie that made me crush on Alison Lohman.", "Significantly more productive than whatever you call that contribution.\n\nBoth wrong and an asshole! The Dude would be as disappointed as your parents must be with themselves.", "This is exactly like Jean Claude Van Damme's \"JVCD\"", "He's also the one giving the award", "If Danny Pudi doesn't make a cameo I would be mad. He did an AWESOME tribute on Community.", "I think you're judging him on the wrong rubric.\n\nActors attempt realism in their roles. Their goal is for the character they portray to act in ways that are congruent with how you would expect them to act. They do a lot of work to develop the character and understand motivations to convince you that you're watching a real person in a real situation.\n\nAlthough this is the predominant role of actors today its not necessarily the goal of acting. The goal of acting, ultimately is to entertain.\n\nNick cage does all of the work a regular actor does, often going far beyond the character study of other actors. E.g. for ghost rider he fell deep into a study of the occult, painting his body in runes and doing seances in his house to prepare for the role. But his goal is entertainment over congruence. After he does all the work of an actor, he then elevates his roles by exaggeration. The chaos he brings his roles is a conscious artistic decision.\n\nIn vampires kiss, his ABCDE...rant every letter had a rehearsed pose and gesture to go along with it.\n\nI can't say your subjective experience of not enjoying his style is wrong in any way, it's completely valid, but his work as an actor is more impressive than it seems.", "I liked JCVD a lot, it has the perfect point in the mixture.", "Didn't Amazon do a series similar to this about Van Damme? Sorry, I meant Van Johnson.", "Wasn't there a movie as well?", "Looks like ridiculously fun. Stupid but fun.", "Yes. JCVD is the name.", "No. Way. \n\nChristmas just came early", "6 is great, but it's an entirely different show.", "Same exact premise and plot as the series?", "Lol. It’s a good one too. Though I think I enjoyed the series more. Saw them at different times, so who knows?", "Just a dude playing a dude dressed as the same dude", "lmao him trying to pick him up over the wall and then dropping him and just walks over was funny, see it often but they pulled it off great lol.", "cageception", "Not exactly. In the film he is caught up in events and reflects on his life and the choices he’s made. In the series he leads two lives: Jean-Claude the actor and Mr Johnson the secret agent. I loved it.", "So is it Nic or Nick? I thought it was Nic because Nick is kids.", "I really want to forgive Nicolas Cage for falling off so hard. I think he's been taking the right steps, and this might be the biggest one.", "If you watch it on netflix, just know that there's an episode missing from Season 2 called 'Advanced Dungeons and Dragons'. \n\nIt's a great episode, but netflix pulled it because a character does black face (they're supposed to be a dark elf).", "Cause he’s spending millions of dollars a year on T Rex skulls, Egyptian artifacts, and leather jackets.", "Release the butthole cut of Nic Cage's Cats!", "When an actor is totally taking you out of a picture and making you focus on what they (the actor) is doing and not they (the character) is doing, then they aren’t doing their job as an actor. And funny you mention ghost rider, because it is a perfect example of his exaggerations getting in the way of a character (though that movie would have been shit no matter who was acting in it).", "Agree to disagree.", "Accepted by Andy Serkis.", "The greatest movie that was ever made", "I hate that I want to see this movie.", "I hate Nick Cage so much…. He is just the same fucking character in every movie I’ve seen him in… him and Bruce Willis I get confused all the time.", "I'm grabbing a joint and two bags of 🍿", "I'm in", "Mandy is a Nic Cage psychotic fever dream and it's also beautiful and amazing.", "It's like an Interdimensional Cable commercial", "His poor money management skills are the butt of at least two jokes in the trailer alone.", "OMG... The CollageHumor skit has now come to life 11 YEARS LATER... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM", "Could be shit. He’s made shit b4.", "Matchstick Men doesn’t get enough love", "Is this the first time Nic Cage is playing himself in a movie? Or the first time he's admitting it?\n\nEither way, hilarious premise, I kind of fucking love it.", "Where's Malkovich when you need him?", "Pig was incredibly well received as well. His career is just up and down all the time, but he keeps having streaks of good stuff once in a while.", "But he is? It's fine if you don't like him personally dude, but it's not like he's a struggling out of work nobody...", "I just rewatched National Treasure and loved it! Will have to watch more of his good ones.", "That’s fair - I did not watch the interview but I definitely did watch BJM. I didn’t know that self-aware inception-y movies starring actors about said actors is a whole category of movies and the first one that came to mind is BJM. I still stand by what I said - it looks cringey.", "What is so compelling about him to you? \n\nBtw I’m not the one downvoting you.", "I was an absolute sucker for National Treasure back in the days, I remember getting some set with both movies in a leather wrap with like a treasure map and some other stuff. It's been way too long since I watched them.", "Can’t wait, looks great!!", "The dip starts during season 3.", "You should check out Color Out Of Space then", "Not sure he can pull off playing Nicolas Cage", "is the best watch more from [globly video](https://globly.tech/yt)", "I respect that he can do this. Recognise your a meme... Use memes to make films lol", "Looking forward to a scene with Beeeeeees!", "It is a last ditch effort to revive his career after he hit rock bottom and did that Left Behind movie.", "He had no good roles after Valley Girl.", "Take my money.", "Ok fine - here’s my support. Yay Nic Cage!", ">he has done way better movies than that.\n\nCounterpoint:\n\nno.", "So is Matrix 4 plot", "my body is ready", "We get it, you like Cage movies!", "Either way is going to be a classic", "He did Left Behind films.", "Now there needs to be an Andy Samberg \"Get In The Cage\" on SNL. \n\"It's got all of the classic elements of a classic Nick Cage movie. One, it stars Nick Cage. Two, the character is Nick Cage. Three, it has Nick Cage channeling his inner Nick Cage. How am I not this movie!?\"", "I'm personally tired of tiffany haddish being in EVERY movie.", "I can’t wait to see this. I hope there’s a nod to him almost playing Superman in the 90’s. \n\nIf you don’t know, fucking google it, and thank me later.", "Who the fuck is that?", "Twins", "Oh, I didn't think you were, I was just agreeing that he's got some great movies and adding to the list. My complaining was about people who deny that he's actually great at his job.", "If this gets any more meta, Facebook is going to sue.", "Ooh, that's one I'm totally unaware of, I have to check it out. Thanks!", "That movie was a waste of time and all I did was skip around, fast forwarding through most of it.", "damn thats just to good", "Damn I feel attacked", "I approve !", "Am I the only one who thought of My Name Is Bruce? Bruce Campbell stars as Bruce Campbell who has to channel his inner Ash Williams in order to save a town from an evil spirit", "\" Is this supposed to be me? Grotesque! I'll give you 20k for it.\"", "This actually looks like a fun comedy, and not just the typical crude plot with stand-up lines as the script.", "I was going to say his version of My Name is Bruce but Being John Malkovich works too", "Title was made by DJ Khaled", "Loving the path Nick Cage has been taking these last few years. Whether its a B movie or blockbuster, he just goes in 100% and its amazing", "[A recent photo of Nic shopping](https://i.imgur.com/XrFRodz.jpg)", "I cannot wait to see this!!", "This is gonna come up if the Community movie ever happens…", "Finally a movie that seems original and funny.", "You sonofabitch, I'm in.", "Damn, someone beat me to it, enjoy the upvote fellow redditor,", "I love the fact that Nic Cage has fully embraced all the memes surrounding him.", "At least he got the role", "Troy disappeared.", "Somewhere out there... Abed Nadir is having a brain aneurysm.", "He’s the Nicolas Cage playing Nicolas Cage playing another Nicolas Cage.", "I like this.", "The clip in the trailer here they were climbing the wall was pretty funny.", "Nicolas gate playing as nicolas cage is the most nicolas cage thing possible. \nThough I wouldn't take from them a surprise reveal at the end, that it was all along john travolta playing as nicolas cage in the end.", "We used to say this alllll the time in High School", "According to Cage himself. He said the direct to DVD movies were more about working with younger and more inexperienced directors and less about the money. He admits that he does the terrible movies because it’s what he enjoys doing.", "Agreed.", "You sonofabitch...", "What did you think is more deserving?", "It’s incredibly real and raw even though it comes across as your typical straight to streaming Cage flick. He’s the perfect actor form the film, but you really should just got into it blind and enjoy the ride.", "Indubitably", "Critics are never really favoring shows that are meant to not be taken seriously in any way, and are suppose to just be plain ridiculous.", "Okay, I don't know how this is going to turn out, but even if it's crap, I love the idea so much that I'll still be happy it exists.", "Nope... \n\nAnd in theory, I do understand what leaning in means.", "Turtles all the way down...", "I love this solely because of the part with him trying to lift the other guy over the wall. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I see a scene where someone (especially a female, sorry not sorry, but it's true) try to lift dead weight up using one hand I cringe. You might as well have most people jump 4 feet in the air in movies. Yes, it's humanly possible, but it's something only a teeny tiny percent of the population could do. \n\nNext time you're at the gym, load the barbell up to a total weight of 150-200 pounds, then lay or kneel on the weight bench, and see if you can pick that up with one hand. Or, just imagine tying a typical couch up with a rope, and then imagine trying to hold on to that rope and lift your couch up over the cliff face, wall, or whatever while being off balance. \n\nAnyway, thumbs up solely for that scene.", "I think 4 is over-vilified and 5 is massively overrated, but you are wrong about 6. 6 had some great episodes and it goes without saying that Kieth David was an excellent addition to the cast.", "Nice Uncaged.", "Holy fuck yes", "I am so in!", "What happened to his hair?", "The problem is that he had good roles like in Moonstruck, Peggy Sue Got Married, It Could Happen to You, he just stank in them. He ruins good movies.", "I wonder what this would do to Abed", "I love that his back!!!!!!!!", "I'm sorry but this looks perfect", "This is the role he was born to play…", "it's one of the best comedy s on Netflix easily. you probably aren't sophisticated enough to understand the high level humor", "Why do I dislike him when others rate him ?", "It was the role he was born to play.", "Sex in the City steps up to the podium and waves.", "This is now my most anticipated movie.", "Can you imagine a movie in the modern era that would require reading a book to understand and enjoy it? LOL!", "He's been robbed at the Oscars for this performance. Robbed I tell you!", "It's the bee's knees!", "Love it.", "CATS - you can rent it at a discount currently but hurry this deal probably won't last long.", "I'll see this. Even if it's just because NC needs $1mm of box office revenue.", "Yeah, I love how they used that acronym like everyone knows what it means lol.", "Wait, that bitch isn't making enough selling watches?", "I fucking hate acronyms", "Agreed. They’ve been getting out of hand for a while now.", "You haven't see the Left Behind film.", "That's right, this trailer displays such things.", "This is going to be the first movie I see in theaters since covid and I absolutely cannot wait.", "It means embracing it. Someone calls you a nerd, you embrace it and be as nerdy as they think you are.", "Not exclusively though...", "First Pig and now this?? Don’t call it a comeback…Nicolas Cage been here for years", "What about \"2 Cage or Not 2 Cage?\"", "What about his back?", "No, what is it?\n\nEdit: Woooww 1% on rotten. Is it so bad that it’s a must see?", "Oh, Britta’s in this? :/", "omfg this is so meta!!", "Me and my buddy ate an eight of mushrooms and sat down to watch being John malkovitch and once it finished I put adaption in and it really is a perfect sequel. Both very deep and interesting layered films.", "Only if you are an evangelical Christian.\n\nIt is like you are wondering whatever happened to Nicholas Cage and then you hear he is in this movie and then you know.", "It's just kind of like someone saying that Titanic and Jungle Cruise are similar movies because they both take place on boats lol\n\nThey're completely different kinds of movies that happen to have one odd similarity", "The trailer looks sick, wtf lmao", "...he's the dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude...", "I'm not sure whether I'd choose this or a masturbation sextape if I wanted to watch Nic Cage jerk himself off.", "counterpointer: adaptation.", "He’s been bad in things. He’s not a phenomenal actor, but he’s got a sort of Everyman personality like Jimmy Stewart that you can’t help but like him. He’s got charisma galore, but I never understood why people thought he was a great actor.\n\nHe looks good in this, though.", "Critics were not favorable towards his entire career.\n\nCertain types of movies critics should be ignored", "The suites of Sunset Tower go for \\~$2,500/night, so definitely a realistic number.", "It's elegant and emotional in a way that's somehow not pretentious.", "To each their own", "Oh man I'm glad to see these comments, so I don't sleep on this one. Gonna put it on the list right now.", "I’m watching this.", "...okay, I'm in.", "I see what you did there. Have an updoot.", "By all means, put people down for the things they like.", "This seems like the greatest movie ever.", "Masterpiece.", "Whether this movie is good or bad, it will be excellent!! But from the trailer, it looks great. Just the premise alone makes me smile.", "baggle", "Multiplicity 2", "Ok FINE 🤣 my god. This is the most reacted to comment I’ve had in a long time. I’ve been getting bitter rebuttals for what feels like days about this lol I get it “we love nic cage”", "Geezus, the Cage hate in the comments though....\n\nI'll give it a go!", "You just made me sad. 🙁", "Oh no, I think this movie looks terrible, and also I didn't really like BJM either. But they don't look similar at all, is my point", "Yes I realized that that was your point after I made the comment but am super over this convo. I just didn’t know any other inception-y movie star type of movies but now I know because way too many people give enough of a shit to correct me lol", "I've never heard of the Jean Claude van damn movie or adaptation. Literally just responded saying that you compared two movies that aren't similar, and you keep responding not understanding what I'm saying, which is why I keep clarifying lol", "Lol dude ok can we be done here?", "Idk, I'm kind of enjoying our interactions haha", "Lolll I know what you mean bc I’m actively laughing at this but like… 🤣", "Haven't been excited for a movie in a LONG time. This is fucking awesome!!!", "He does grunt a few times, chugs punch, and dances like a weirdo tho.\n\nLoved the movie haha", "Now I'm happy again! :D", "So, you're not going to walk into my trap then?", "So he's a dude playing a dude disguised as the same dude?", "Malkovich?", "He managed to finally get to be Superman when voice acting in the Teen titans go film. Finally, even though it is not the full superman film that be would of been epic in.", "Wow, that's an incredibly self aware movie.... Nicolas Cage is most definitely aware of his acting and is now just trolling us with it.\n\nHonestly I still enjoy his movies even if he doesn't ever actually play any characters...unless this a Nic-ception where everything with knew about him is just this same character he played in all his movies.", "But insulting people who complain about random soapboxing somewhere down a nested reddit chain is of course really productive and laudable.\n\nWait.\n\nOh no.\n\nNow I'm throwing sarcasm at someone completely irrelevant.\n\nWhat has my life become?!?\n\nNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo", "A trailer of Nicolas Cage playing himself featuring Blackpink. What in the world hahaha.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM", "It's got a crazy cat-wrangling Nic Cage and a jaguar, so I figured it'd be some consolation.", "Oh! I was thinking the unrelated TV show haha", "Anyone getting massive Bojack Horseman vibes here too?", "blackpink - kill this love\nbut sadly its kpop, the whole song is terrible :/" ]	1,563	videos	Nicolas Cage plays Nicolas Cage in The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rgbts1/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rgbts1/deleted_by_user/	[ "Boo hoo.", "Boo hoo", "Get a job?", "Don't you get it? This is his last, last, nearly last resort." ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/6dgaULxGDGI	/r/videos/comments/rgch3m/a_14_minute_long_bit_of_improv_from_season_2_of/	[ "Also check this out if you enjoyed the video:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lF3xoA1DFA", "Amazing, hearing the crew laugh as well.", "He sounds a lot like George Lucas", "Sssshhhhh, keep sharing and the best channel on youtube will get copyright murdered!", "Ngl - I think she’s kinda cute. I’d kiss her.", "ive always liked this show but never really tuned in to it. Looks like i found the next show for me to binge watch!", "I think I finally realized why this show made me so uncomfortable.\n\nImagine if all the It's Always Sunny characters had guns and power.", "https://youtu.be/9DyPWic1Yx0", "That's because Kerri Kenney is an absolute babe and was the highlight of The State for me, especially considering the minds of the Michaels, David Wain, Lennon, and Joe Lo Truglio all weighed in on that crew. She was like the Gilda Radner of the 90s-naughts.\n\nDude was the best of a bunch of brilliance. I hope to see more of her soon.", "Early Reno seasons were the best. So f-in hilarious. I was blown away learning it was all improv a few years back.", "Classic." ]	12	videos	A 14 minute long bit of improv from season 2 of Reno 911.
https://youtu.be/5a7yo2F_h4I	/r/videos/comments/rgd6fy/the_videos_of_monks_getting_hit_in_the_crotch_are/	[ "Wrestlers fake punch each other too. Are you going to tell me that because wrestlers can fake punch, all those MMA fights are also fake?\n\nJust because something can be faked does not mean every instance is fake. Take a class in logic. Idiot", "Look man if you think there's not an absolute fuck ton of fake martial artists piggybacking on the success of Shaolin martial arts, I don't know what to tell you. Thing is everyone knows entertainment based wrestling is fake, it's scripted and they're all trained to fake hits. \n\nYes there's Shaolin Iron crotch and (insert other body parts) stuff out there, but lately there's been multiple front page videos of guys not at all affiliated with the Shaolin Temple, acting as if what they're doing is some secret technique of having invincible balls, and it's obviously fake. Heck, even their flashy robes look like they come from wish. \n\nEnjoy your day.", "Your logic just isn’t there. Go back to school numbnuts", "Except that an actual established school of martial arts has been doing this for a long fucking time, and you're currently defending hacks that are claiming this one particular parlor trick version of of it, and bring particularly rude in the process towards me, for literally no reason. \n\nGo fuck yourself, how bout that?", "Why don’t you go toss a pizza or something? I’m sure your wife’s really proud of ya!", "Go get another account of yours banned." ]	6	videos	The videos of "monks" getting hit in the crotch are fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4	/r/videos/comments/rgdm7p/ricky_gervais_2020_golden_globes_awards_calls_out/	[ "Ricky Gervais is awesome, for those who haven't seen it, I also recommend watching his [Netflix special Humanity](https://www.netflix.com/title/80189653).", "That was a great speech but I would definitely put him among the people he's mocking. He's one of those 'I'm a victim because people on twitter or criticizing me for making for of trans people' people.", "He's the best. Also recommend his show After Life.", "He’s still doing this same routine every year?", "I think he knows he lives in a ridiculous industry. He doesn’t deny it he tries to have fun with it and make other people squirm. \n\nAudience gasp at a Harvey Weinstein of Jeffrey Epstein joke? \n\nI love when he says he’s your friend, you did it. There are plenty of people in that audience who “went along”. Let them gasp", "When does he play the victim? He doesn't seem like that to me at all but I'm not really on Twitter.", "Oh, a cynical Redditor.... again", "But he knows that. That's the joke too", "Ahh yes here we go. Someone's got to make this about trans jokes.\n\nGood. Comedians should learns that trans jokes are completely off limits. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp. Seriously, they can make jokes about any other group of people, no one cares, just leave trans people alone.", "Would it be more fun to watch him kiss everyone's ass?", "I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not", "No, it would be more fun for them to get a different host with some new material.", "Dude, fuck Ricky Gervais.", "Oh, a snarky response… how original.", "Isn't this from 2020?", "So many puckered assholes in that crowd.", "DUDE", "One of the best ending lines for an award show ever.\n\n\"get drunk, take your drugs, fuck off.\"", "This is bait. Don't feed the troll", "Yeah, which was his fifth time", "Only tangentially related to his hacky trans jokes but he [definitely knows how to play the victim.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AiGNdOtCIAA22Mx.jpg)", "Hahaha", "I think he has a healthy outlook on it because he didn't get into the business and have fame until he was in his 40s. He had an entire life living outside that industry. Perspective is a son of a bitch.", ">Audience gasp at a Harvey Weinstein of Jeffrey Epstein joke? \n\nNo one squirmed. \n\nEntire audience laughed the entire time, the \"oooooh\" gasp is a reaction you would get from any audience any place. As in \"oooh he just went there\" the same you would get with any audience when a dark joke is told. \n\nThe projection is insane when it comes to this act. Entire audience laughs the entire time and people psychoanalyze every facial expression as if anyone there is actually livid or offended. \n\nIf they actually cared they wouldn't let him do the same act for multiple years, would they?", "I loved the part where he goes on a transphobic rant super cool and brave of him to do that", "Just awesome.", "I think it's great of him. Fuck off and be offended somewhere else.", "There a reason they keep hiring him. Because he doesn't really hurt or threaten their way of life and it gets redditors who would never normally watch something as vapid as the golden globes to tune in because their super rebellious favorite comedian is 'owning' the celebs. \n\nHe's not an outsider, he isn't a rebel. He's every bit as rich and privileged as everyone in the audience. This is a roast and his 'targets' are in on it. He's not calling out anyone you sycophant. \n\nIf you want to see someone really biting the hand that is trying to feed here Russel Brand being awarded a hugo boss award. He was kicked out after and denounced by Hugo Boss. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/wkd_-nXeUzs\n\nAside from being funnier and improvised Brand takes aim people in power rather than Gervais who is quite happy punching down.", "Ricky gervais is a rich hollywood producer that got his start working with jimmy saville.\n\nTheres probably 8 people there richer and more powerful than him.", "play (verb): behave as though one were (a specified type of person) \n \nJust kidding, I don't really mean that, Ricky Gervais is a whiny bitch baby, and taking the piss alongside it doesn't change that. He's just like all those skeptic Youtubers who realized that complaining about atheists being oppressed had run its course and switched to complaining about PC culture, then trans people. Please Ricky Gervais, tell me for the 100th time how much you don't care about people being offended by jokes. Why is it that edgy comedians these days always end up being so thin-skinned? \n \nInb4 \"no u\".", "I dunno, Tom Hanks looks like he took it a bit too seriously.", "Oh wow, is it \"Ugh, why do they even HAVE awards?!?\" Season already?", "cope.", "Bullshit. Guy won the meme lottery that night, that's all.", "If people like you are offended then I'll give it a watch", "The definition of “fuck you money”. Must feel incredible.", "Imagine being such a cumbrain that you take jokes seriously. Every other group gets joked about, so try to react the way everyone else does.", "[Wow, you're so fucking edgy!](https://youtu.be/adh0KGmgmQw?t=146)", "[Bad luck! That’s my job. I’m a stand-up comedian, I’m meant to challenge people. If you don’t like being challenged, don’t watch my shows. What’s the matter guys, too challenging for you?](https://youtu.be/adh0KGmgmQw?t=148)", "“Good night, get drunk, take your drugs.”\n\nLegend", "Like he’s not a privileged actor.", ">got his start working with jimmy saville. \n \nI'm sorry but this is such nonsense conspiracy bullshit and it's completely untrue \n \n \n \n \n \nHe was an events manager at a university in London and managed a band called Suede which was his first step into a show-business career (apart from his failed pop career in the '80s). \n \nIn the late 90s he then got a job at a local radio station in London, XFM. \n \nThen he hired Steve Merchant as his assistant. \n \nSteve left to join the BBC and while he was there he had to film something for a intern project. He went back to Ricky to film a pilot called \"Seedy Boss\" based on a character Ricky used to do with Steve, which was essentially the pilot of The Office. \n \nThis got passed around at the BBC and Ricky gained a small amount of notoriety from it. The BBC were reluctant to go ahead with it because Steve and Ricky wanted to direct. There's a good 'Comedy Connections' episode on The Office on YouTube where they go through all the issues with getting it commissioned and how it nearly never happened. Most higher-ups at the BBC didn't get it at all, and a couple producers who believed in it had to fight for a long time to get it made.\n \nAnyway, after the \"Seedy Boss\" tape was passed around he got gigs on other comedy shows, like 'Comedy Lab' and 'The 11 O'Clock Show' and eventually he was given his own low budget talk show called 'Meet Ricky Gervais'. \n \n\n \nJimmy Saville was a guest on this show for one episode, along with an array of other has-been or D-list celebs. That's the extent to which they \"worked together\". Saville wasn't a producer or anything or involved in the show in any other way. He was a guest on his shitty chat show one time that no one watched.\n \nRicky continued to do some small appearances in other shows, and eventually the BBC decided that they would commission the first series of The Office because it was very low-risk. The rest is history and the next few years of his career were built on the strength and success of The Office.\n \n \n \n \n \nSaying that he \"got his start working with Jimmy Saville\" is so ridiculously misleading, it's kind of sad that it's upvoted so much. You can literally say any baseless thing on the internet and people will believe it. \n \n \nTLDR: he built up his name gradually in the industry thanks mainly to a film project he did with Steve Merchant that became The Office pilot, and at one point had a low-budget talk show before The Office made him famous, Saville was a guest on that one time and had nothing else to do with him. \n \nedit: format/clarity", "Isn't he the one who posts embarrassing pictures of himself laughing like a fucking Karen on Facebook when people call him out for transphobic shit?", "I love that they cut his mic at the \"fuck off\"", "> Noel, good luck being more offensive than that, son.\n\nlmao, throwing his fellow Goth Detective straight under a double decker bus.", "yeah he’s really sticking it to them, that’s why they keep inviting him back, because he’s not part of the club… lol", "Yes exactly, he literally says in the beginning of his monologue \"let's have a laugh at your expense, shall we?\". He is just another side of the same coin that is showbusiness. However, I think comedians are in a special position where they can critique and bring up serious matters where people would otherwise find it socially weird. So he isn't \"destroying them with facts and logic!!!\" but he clearly says what he wants. I can respect that. He does this comedy routine/roast and puts some grains of thruth into it. Especially at the end of his opening about actors accepting their awards without spewing a bunch of bullshit. Clearly the audience resonated with that too.", "you seem to be taking jokes rather serious dude, you ok? ricky’s not going to see this", "He was his first guest on his first tv show. Most people had heard the rumours about him by that point. How is me pointing that any different than what ricky is doing?", "Ricky Gervais spends one day a year being as offensive as possible, then spends the rest of the time complaining that people were offended.", "I agree the comment is phrased in a very misleading way and it good that to you clarified the fact of the matter but it is relevant information given that Ricky is lambasting a room of celebrities for tolerating sexual predators in their midst when he himself at one time worked with the most infamous predator amount british celebrities. \n\nMany of the people he's painting as seedy and immoral are no more guilty than he is but you wouldn't get that from the tone of his derision. He's painting himself as an outsider speaking truth to power when he's the same as the rest of them.", "My problem is less with the material itself and more how people are painting Ricky as a daring truth teller, if one thing can be said for Ricky it's that he knows just how far to push without ever really upsetting the people he's joking about. \n\nUnless he's targeting a minority group, then the gloves come off.", "Because you said he \"got his start working with Jimmy Saville\"? \n \nThat's just completely misleading whichever way you look at it. Doesn't that imply to you that Jimmy Saville was in some way important and crucial in what Ricky's career became and that they had a working relationship? \n \nIt was a completely unsuccessful and inconsequential chat show that had nothing to do with The Office getting made which is how he got his start, or you could say before that working at XFM with Steve Merchant was how he got his start. \n \nWould you say he got his start working with Tony Walsh or John Virgo or Penny Smith (other guests on that chat show)? \n \nedit: in fact, the first series of The Office had already been commissioned and Ricky and Steve were writing it while Ricky was recording this chat show, so Saville really had nothing to do with Ricky \"getting his start\" at all", "If he did know about Jimmy Saville's true nature back then, then of course yeah I agree it is definitely hypocritical without a doubt. \n \nBut you or I don't know that Ricky knew that for sure, and he was brand new into the industry so if I had to guess I'd think it would be unlikely. There were apparently rumours going back into the 90s about Saville, but lots of people didn't know for sure. I heard of an interview with someone who worked at the BBC back then and they said they heard the rumour but just thought of it as a Richard Gere hamster type rumour that was completely unfounded. \n \n>He's painting himself as an outsider speaking truth to power when he's the same as the rest of them. \n \nThis I definitely agree with, Ricky is generally hypocritical with his whole attitude toward Hollywood. He's very obsessed with fame and success and accolades himself, yet on these nights he often acts all apathetic and morally above it.", "Must be sad for you that racism and homophobia aren't as tolerated as they used to be because of people getting offended. \n\nAnd now people don't like transphobia either! It's like they don't like comedy based on bigotry or something! \n\nBest give it a watch just to spite those snowflakes eh!", "The joke's on them. I watch it reuploaded on Youtube the next day!", "Ricky might not have known about about Saville, if so its very disingenuous of him to attack celebs over Weinstein as while there were rumours not everyone who working or socialised with him have known. \n\nTo put it in context it is FAR more likely that people in BBC like Ricky had some idea about Saville than Hollywood Actors would about Weinstein. The BBC is a much smaller ecosystem and Saville was a huge fish and his crimes far more widespread and heinous. \n\nRicky, even if he didn't know for sure, (which is dubious) has no right to pretend he is above the slimey underbelly of showbussiness when one of his first big breaks was having a cosey chat that monster. While Jimmies legacy is fast being buried the fact is Saville was a household name at the time and was a high profile guest for an up and coming Ricky and to disregard the fact that Saville was one of many stepping stones Ricky used to advance his career is just as dishonest as overstating it.", "i say it's because the producers want to make more money", "There’s a longer version somewhere. It’s Noel Gallagher who gets on stage next.", "> Would you say he got his start working with Tony Walsh or John Virgo or Penny Smith (other guests on that chat show)? \n\nYes.\n\n>Doesn't that imply to you that Jimmy Saville was in some way important and crucial in what Ricky's career became and that they had a working relationship? \n\nno.\n\n\nI'm saying he started his career working with jimmy saville. On his first tv show, he showed up to work and jimmy saville was there and then they worked together.\n\nWhy are you defending gervais this hard but not the people in the audience that he's making the same statement about?", "I mean, Ricky was hardly \"in the BBC\" at that point. \n \nThe 'Meet Ricky Gervais' talk show that we're talking about, The 11 O'Clock show and Comedy Lab that he did before The Office were all on Channel 4, not the BBC. \n \nThe first thing that Ricky did officially working within the BBC was starting to write the first series of The Office toward the end of 2000, at the same time that he was recording the talk show that Saville was on. \n \nI doubt that he got in there as a complete nobody, and within less than a month or so was privy to a massive scandal that would have huge ramifications for the organisation. \n \n>the fact that Saville was one of many stepping stones Ricky used to advance his career \n \nI don't see how that adds up. Ricky was already writing the first series of The Office with Steve when he recorded that chat show. The Office would have been what it was regardless of having Saville on his terrible chat show that no-one watched. And he was a nobody, I'm sure he didn't even book the show and was just told what to do, he's joked on the XFM shows about not knowing anything about who some of them were.", "Gervais doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Being a cringelord /r/atheist schill is just as annoying as building yourself a pedestal for being #wokeaf. Find a different idol, because he’s standing in that same room.", "He mentioned Noel Fielding was there to get an award, too, so I assumed that was who he was talking to.", "I think we've just got very different opinions on what \"getting your start\" working with someone in an industry means, especially the way you said it without context initially. \n \nTo me that implies that they had a helping role and that without them Ricky wouldn't be successful. The idea that \"Ricky got his start working with Tony Walsh\" because he interviewed him for a few minutes one day on a TV show that no-one watched and was not successful is a bit hilarious to me.\n \n>but not the people in the audience that he's making the same statement about? \n \nBecause they're two different situations. If you really think that Ricky working one time for probably a couple of hours with Jimmy Saville (likely because he was just told that Saville was the guest as Ricky was a nobody back then) on a show that went nowhere and had no contribution to the thing that started Ricky's career is comparable to massive Hollywood stars choosing to work with Harvey Weinstein again and again and again and people who definitively did get their start because of him, and definitively do owe their career to him, then we're just way off on our interpretations of the situation. \n \nWeinstein had power over these people and they bowed to that and looked away from his crimes, Jimmy Saville had no power of Ricky Gervais at any point and Ricky didn't look the other way and continue to work with him, he probably never even saw or spoke to him again. That's what it comes down to. \n \nAnd I'm not just hard defending Ricky. I only pointed it out because I thought what you said was misleading, I said in another comment I think he is very hypocritical with his attitude toward Hollywood in general.", "So looking at it backwards you can say Ricky was already making the office, he doesn't owe his fame to a single interview with Saville and your right, luckily for Ricky things didn't pan out that way but the fact is that he was just playing the showbiz game until he hit it big and could control his career. Saville was a small boost Ricky didn't end up needing but it was there.\n\nIts a great example of how when your starting out you don't have full control or awareness of your career to the extent that Ricky unknowingly had a prolific child predator on his show. But if the office hadn't been his lucky break then maybe this would have have been more significant, he certainly never got anyone bigger than him, I seem to recall one of the guys from ground force... it truly was a shit show. \n\nThe point is that to mock hollywood actors for working alongside predators without any acknowledgement of the fact he once working with fucking Jimmy Saville is disingenuous to the point of hipocrasy whether he knew anytning about Saville or not. He could make one joke acknowledging it and that would be something but that would spoil the image he has cultivated that he was a self made man that was always in full control of his career and is better than other celebrities. \n\nYou are right it was channel 4 not the BBC but my point still stands that rumours about Saville are more likely to have been circulated around British TV than weinstein around hollywood. It's not that Ricky did or was likely to have known the truth about Saville it is that it is hypocritical to levy an implication of shared responsibility at the guests of golden globes when they probably for the most part as guilty for aiding Weinstein as he is for Saville.", "I agree with pretty much all of that. Saville didn't end up being significant to Ricky at all, but he could have been if things were different and that talk show was a success that helped get The Office commissioned. \n \n And you're right, I guess even even if he didn't know of Saville's background, Ricky is still hypocritical to an extent because not everyone that he attacked knew about Weinstein. But he still lazily grouped them all together with people that did (reportedly) know, and if someone did that to him he'd probably feel hard done by.", "What has he said about minority groups, I am out of the loop on this?", "I never understand those who actually think he's punching the \"big man\" and really getting those Hollywood types...who do you think invites him and writes his check lmfao\n\nCompanies being self aware and mocking themselves is literally decided by the company because they know people lap it up and think they are actually going against them and being a conflict lol", "> Oh yeh cause you know who's been long overdue a challenge...the trans community", "Aren't jokes meant to be funny though...like \"react how every other group does\" wdym, no matter what group you are from, not every \"joke\" is going to be funny.", "It looked to me like he did it silently, which I think is funnier.", "There's a difference between not finding someone funny and calling them x-phobic/ist.", "What are you even talking about?", "Not necessarily when these jokes are just out dated stereotypes and \"attack helicopter\" style jokes. I'm not saying they can't be funny if done well but is it really necessary lol? Communities which are killed in countries and far from treated equal. Its fair for them to be annoyed when they also have comedians \"punching the line\". Maybe jokes like that would work if they were also treated equally in the world too but they aren't. To note I'm not having a go at you for this, kinda just ranted lol", "Lots of groups get killed in other countries but are favoured heavily by just about everyone who wants to crack a quick joke, such as Christians, women, gays, etc. It's only the vocal trans community who can't take jokes at the moment. Maybe as the culture surrounding them evolves, they can develop the sense that not every joke is a personal attack.", "I see those groups complaining too, the trans community may be louder about it but that's because comedians have started pushing on it more because it gets a reaction.\n\nI would enjoy and laugh alot more at those jokes if in the back of mind it wasn't \"you're really only doing this because it's going to get a reaction and boost numbers\". Like it's not about the jokes but more so just how many people are talking about it. \n\nI don't want to our convo to get too repetitive but like I said, if things were more equal, I feel like they would care alot less.", "I understand your point about making the jokes for the reaction. I find it to be hacky and not funny, but they have the right to make a joke.\n\nIf people stopped rising to these dumb jokes and sparking a reaction of free publicity, they wouldn't make them any more.\n\nI don't like Gervais or his material, but I feel the need to defend his jokes, because people are calling him transphobic, which has basically lost it's meaning at this point.", "I'm glad we could come to some understanding", "I feel like ya'll are getting caught up in facts and timelines and forgetting that Ricky's job here was to tell jokes.", "“Take your award, thank your agent and your God and fuck off!”", "❤️", "As if that means anything in reality. There was more than him who looked put out by what was said", "I agree, good on him for that.", ">And now people don't like transphobia either!\n\nMaybe in the circles you frequent. It's still alive and kicking, and also the social norm in most places on the planet.", "It's the same thing as Wrestling. People can enjoy the storylines and have fun watching it but you would get concerned if the discussion suddenly veered into \"I can't believe The Rock hit Vince McMahon with a chair! That's his BOSS!\" and started praising The Rock as the only one who is willing to stand up to the McMahons.", "The Brand one is just strange. He doesnt really make much of a point, I dont know why you think its funny since I cant see a joke there, and saying Nazis looked great while killing people would probably force any brand to separate themselves from you. Its not like Hugo Boss is hiding this, its a known fact. He is just acting drunk/drugged.", "Right?! Sometimes I wonder if these guys have bet amongst their rich show business friends to see who can pull off the most outrageous \"speech\" which ends up boosting their standing in the public's eyes.", "Might be easier to watch if i didn't know he was transphobic", "Nah that shit was hilarious fam. You just must not really get it. He literally got on stage and chose violence", "He did the same thing when he didn’t read the fine print to his contract and had to hock Sony products. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/Ngf6hMWSmFA", "I love this man :D", "Cause fuck him for socializing, right?", "Damn the guy put you in the fucking mud with his response lmao, I'd stop posting If i were you.", "he says for himself that he lives a privileged life in a big house. So he is talking about himself as well", "Well yeah since he made a huge song & dance about egotistical hypocrisy & the vanity of the celebrity life style, he actually can fuck off for socialising with them. Makes the entire thing feel performative and undermined.", "He is very much taking the piss out of himself as much as them as he is in that industry too. Add to that, the fact that this routine was called for 5 times and he agreed, maybe just maybe he was \"doing a bit\".", "Come on man, you are being deliberately obtuse here. In the literal sense of the phrase you are correct but \n\n>got his start working with Jimmy Saville\n\nClearly implies that Saville was fundamental to Gervais making his break through which is clearly not at all true.", ">The fact that he re-ran the same material like 5 times is a separate issue but still.\n\nNo this is the crux of the point. If people are stupid enough to think that the Holywood Foreign Press invited him 5 times to publically \"call them out\" it is on them. You don't need a Daily Mail article to show that Ricky is one of them.", "The funniest part is he's one of them.\nSo it's a massive self burn and I don't think he realises it ...", "No we haven't forgotten he's a professional comedien. \n\nWe're having a nuanced conversation about the culpability of those in showbiz for abusers and to what extent Ricky's jokes are hypocritical. \n\nIf you're not interested that's absolutely fine but please don't imply that any conversations your not interested in aren't worth having.", "No we haven't forgotten he's a professional comedien. \n\nWe're having a nuanced conversation about the culpability of those in showbiz for abusers and to what extent Ricky's jokes are hypocritical. \n\nIf you're not interested that's absolutely fine but please don't imply that any conversations your not interested in aren't worth having.", "Ah yes the rebel... millionaire Russel Brand. He is just as phoney and hypocritical, only not as \"successful\".", "i’m talking about how seriously you’re taking ricky’s jokes that you feel the need to angrily defend them. they’re just jokes man! don’t get offended when someone doesn’t like them!", "The point isn't that Brand isn't wealthy.. it's that unlike Ricky he genuinely rips into the vapidity and meaninglessness of these award shows, brings attention back to issues that actually matter and isn't afraid upsetting other rich and powerful people. \n\nThey wanted Russel to do a set like Ricky Gervais, something riskque but not too much to make them genuinely look bad but he got up there and gave them both barrels because Brand genuinely doesn't give a fuck. Ricky only pretends not to give a fuck.", "Poor effort. Try harder.", "sorry if i did anything to hurt your feelings", "Not quite there yet. Need better bait. Keep going.", "I believe the part he didn't like was \"most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg\", check the video, the Tom Hanks face\" come after that.", "Brand has also been speaking like this long before he became popular and famous though.", "Its funny that youre getting so offended at someone else saying they are offended. Otherwise you wouldnt be so upset you have to tell them to \"fuck off\"\n\nFunny and sad really because you probably dont even realise it.", "Lol, every year there's someone that makes a statement and every year they all get together anyways. If they thought the awards were bullshit and didn't matter, they just wouldn't go.", "Yeah, sure dude.", "It’s literally like every week through the Oscars. Honestly, it feels like the people posting these are vying for Best Actor in a Pantomimed Outrage.", "Oh cry more", "Also it's like a reverse streisand effect. The streisand effect being the more you try to hide or censor something the more people will find out about it or care about it.\n\nWhen you not only talk openly about something, but even crack jokes about it, the less people care. It's no longer a scandal or a conspiracy, it's just something that happened.\n\nI can all but guarantee that everyone at the Golden Globes, every star in the audience (or at least their publicists) and every PR guy for every movie featured in the awards signed off on every word Ricky said. \n\nThese are multi-millionaire actors and directors who work on multi-billion dollar movies, no one's going to let some comedian host damage their ability to make money.", "See, so offended you had to came back. You can always just, fuck off and be offended somewhere else right?", "Really offended.", "BuT dId YoU sEe ThE jUsTiN bEiVeR rOaSt???", "he just doesn't give a fuck", ">Noel Fielding\n\nLooks like it's gallagher: https://youtu.be/Q-3epbUaZk0", "Because he posts ricky's wiki page?", "I think you're being needlessly pedantic here.\n\n\n>Because they're two different situations. If you really think that Ricky working one time for probably a couple of hours with Jimmy Saville (likely because he was just told that Saville was the guest as Ricky was a nobody back then) on a show that went nowhere and had no contribution to the thing that started Ricky's career is comparable to massive Hollywood stars choosing to work with Harvey Weinstein again and again and again and people who definitively did get their start because of him, and definitively do owe their career to him, then we're just way off on our interpretations of the situation.\n\n>Weinstein had power over these people and they bowed to that and looked away from his crimes, Jimmy Saville had no power of Ricky Gervais at any point and Ricky didn't look the other way and continue to work with him, he probably never even saw or spoke to him again. That's what it comes down to. \n \n\n\nIf were gunna be pedantic, who in that audience is that true for?\n\n\nAlso what do you think about ricky making movies with rob lowe, jeffery tambor, and louis ck?\nAll three of them in one movie.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Lowe#Sex_tape\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-lowe-idUSN0145007820080502\n\nhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/transparent-star-alleges-jeffrey-tambor-sexually-harassed-her-got-physical-1059306/", "> But you or I don't know that Ricky knew that for sure\n\nThat is true for everyone in that audience.", "If i changed it to \"worked with\" would you then agree with the comment?\n\nIs your issue purely a gramatical one?", "He broke into the Music industry in the 80's. So you're not quite right there.", "One could say his failed success in the music industry only added to his distrust in the media industries", "Yes, Noel Gallagher was next, but he literally says \"Noel Fielding\" and talks to him in the clip I responded to." ]	137	videos	Ricky Gervais 2020 Golden Globes awards calls out the privileged actors and hypocritical studios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBMhHbkXcuU&ZAK	/r/videos/comments/rgdx1r/pickle_expert_guessing_cheap_vs_expensive_pickles/	[ "First he called dill a weed, then a spice. Idiot", "Why can’t it be both?", "It’s a herb", "\"It smells like a natural product. Nothing jumps out at me that says calcium chloride...\" You can't smell calcium chloride.\n\n\"The microbes start to eat the salt.\" Nope.", "Imagine being stuck talking to him at a party!", "Actually it's both. Dill seed are a spice often used in pickling.", "He’s still got as much personality as a tree", "Would have been helpful to tell us the brand.", "And run the risk of getting accused of being a shill for a corporation??", "He is also known by the name of pickle Rick!", "Haha, \"pickle expert\", okay, okay. Am an calling out bullshit jobs expert.", "Your mates already know you're a pickle expert." ]	12	videos	Pickle Expert guessing cheap vs expensive pickles

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