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/r/videos/comments/rjhl5x/stop_motion_video_that_my_dad_made_in_1976/
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[
"The riveting pants-leg and sock scene will not be soon forgotten.",
"Yup. Right off 38",
"🎶 *STAND IN THE…* 🎶",
"Ahead of his time",
"You're saying, \"Yup\" like you know who he is too",
"Crappy? That was delightful. It was really well done, especially considering it's not like it is now where you can onion skin shots and see how well it's going or make immediate adjustments. I've done really rough animations for fun and it's very easy to forget what direction stuff should be, the physics of it all, etc when you're in a sequence and it sometimes really shows. This was great! I was surprised at how consistent your dad was with his posture in those first few shots because it really helped sell the illusion he was just spinning in place.",
"That's one hell of a lamp shade",
"Now I have to watch it again.",
"Ha this is fantastic! Glad you have this and shared it with us.",
"Don't call it Crappy. Call it 1976 Time Capsule or Camera Test. Its like a time machine dude.",
"This entire video checks out, def 1970's",
"Yes it was very charming and fun, (while I get it's not serious) the only thing I didn't like so much was the title calling it 'crappy' and 'badly filmed' etc",
"I came here to say that part awakened something in me and I want to see more ghostly caressing of legs.",
"Thanks. My dad passed a few years ago and I’ve never seen this. It’s incredible.",
"Yeah that was my cousin busting his uncle’s balls haha.",
"Yup",
"Blew my mind when he went in the cupboard and came in through the front door.",
"The door one is quite good actually because the camera is moving.",
"Lol. My dad was a funny guy.",
"How could it not be longer?!",
"Bro how did he come back in through the front door",
"1. Technically pixilation.\n2. Your dad rules!",
"Did your Dad's smoke a lot of weed? Very cool vid. I'll bet he was a great guy.",
"He had no choice, his wife won't let him come in the back door.",
"My hometown too!",
"Movie editing was really a pain back in those days; cutting and splicing short bits of film together with glue. Sometimes the splices didn't make it through the projector without breaking.",
"the spin lol",
"I love it so much, I remember doing that kind of stop motion as a child in the 90s, it was such a pain",
"\"I compared it to *Avatar*!\"",
"That kind of filmmaking is quite time-consuming. He must have had a stop motion trigger on that Bolex, unless he had a partner who was clicking those frames one by one.\n\nI did a substantial amount of this kind of thing in Super-8mm. Then video came along, and then computers and there went the whole neighborhood...\n\nRay Harryhausen made a career of this kind of thing, and others. It has a quaint and almost innocent feel, since one had to plan things out, and be very clever about what they were creating.\n\nToday, it's just like making a batch of cookies...",
"Awe, cute.\n\nIs he still a fun dad? Has he made any recent ones? We need an update :-)",
"That was amazing. I was born in 83. Seeing this was fantastic. What he did was astounding for the time.",
"He's the wizard of speed and time",
"this is amazing",
"He really impressed the niche group of people that know it's a cupboard, and not just a room with another door.",
"helicopter helicopter",
"If you need some help with your mental health, there should be a myriad of sources in your local area. It's never too late to ask for help.",
"I love stop motion, not sure what it is about it, but it always fills me with joy. (yeah I know that's cringe)",
"What a pathetic account. Two days old and every comment is pure garbage. You live a sad life. I hope one day things get better for you.",
"Sorry to hear that, great video it's so nice to have a few things that capture more than just a photo.",
"This reminds me of the nationwide adverts that I saw as a kid - anyone else? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq053_G_ZaI",
"Did you pause it?",
"Those walking scenes were so smooth wow",
"It was better than Twilight.",
"First half: \"hey, we did the exact same kind of films, must be a universal idea\"\n\nSecond half: \"uhhhhh?\"\n\nSeriously though, we did lots of these on super 8. So many left undeveloped because developing was much more expensive than film.",
"The splicing was done primarily with tape. It was oddly satisfying to shear the film and then join it up.",
"Are those tape splicing still holding up? Tape has a tendency to degrade and get brittle and the adheasive get gummy over the decades.\n\nWhat did you use to digitize the film? I bought a Reflecta super-8. Super slow, scanning 2 frames per second into individual image files that I then would concatenate together. Individual image files are nice in that you can delete the splice frames which are obliterated by the glued splice itself. The missing frame isn't noticed in the final recombined film. \n\nDid you do any digital retouching? Your film looked pretty free from pops and scratches.",
"It's not my film. Just saying we made the same kind of Super 8 films at the time.",
"That's an awesome video. People forget stop motion pre 2000s PCs were very slow and trial and error. Also very creative of him, really enjoyed the last scene with the socks and shoes.",
"This better than most recent movies",
"Ah, thanks.",
"I watched it again and was not disappointed. \nThat is, one hell of a lampshade indeed.",
"I don’t think he did. Yeah, he was amazing",
"My uncle did the clicking",
"He passed away a few years ago. I’m not sure if there are more. My uncle had the footage.",
"He would’ve been perfect for SNL. No connection though.",
"Sorry to hear that. I hope he stayed the way he was in the video while you all had him with you :-)",
"My dad and his cousin also made a stop motion video back in the 70s. \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aydt-chjX50&t=3s",
"According to the dictionary busting balls is to make a sculptured representation of upper part of the balls including the head and neck and usually part of the shoulders and breast."
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Stop motion video that my dad made in 1976.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3uXXh1sHcI
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/r/videos/comments/rjhvzw/baby_penguin_tries_to_make_friends/
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[
"I feel bad for him, I’d be his friend",
"I've learn a lot from this baby, first or last doesn't matter, you just need love and care.",
"Another bot farm post. Something is fishy in /r/video. I would report to a moderator, but I have never ever seen one here that cares.",
"the narrative is made up",
"If this is a repost bot it's not a very good one",
"These bots don't seem to be tied to the posters themselves, but comments. \n\nIf you want to check yourself. Look at \"newer\" posts in videos and posts that have 5-7 comments. Check the users commenting. Most have accounts 1-7 days old. Each comment is very positive to the post, almost guaranteeing upvotes. Most of the accounts are also posting in Spanish too (or, strangely enough, Japanese). Strange, right?\n\nI've already been in contact with the moderators. I'm not sure if they're actually \"bots\" or karma farmers or what, exactly.",
"u/raymondwasryan\n\nyou a bot?",
"Again, it's not the posters, but commenters. Look specifically for the ones with 3 or 4 numbers at the end of their name.\n\nedit: comments are being ripped directly from YT",
"my god dude. it's like all of them"
] | 17 |
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Baby Penguin Tries To Make Friends
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rji2of/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/rji2of/deleted_by_user/
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"Hey, /u/deathgrape, you were talking about the strangeness of that other post. Check this post out. Almost all usernames with numbers at the end and very new accounts - with almost the same comment. Something fishy is definitely going on.",
"Probably some sort of viral marketing campaign for the Chris Pratt Mario movie?",
"Seems to be only the commenters and not the posters. Weird, huh? I've been in contact with a moderator who also deals with bots. There are various reasons they could be doing this.",
"Saw this comment too late. Everything's removed now, including part of the post, which is odd."
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[deleted by user]
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https://youtu.be/XaktoN681UM
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/r/videos/comments/rjijlf/worlds_highest_everything_somebody_needs_to_make/
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[
"I was really expecting to see Snoop Dogg at the end of it.",
"I was about to say, I was expecting to see a picture of me at a Dead and Company show in Chicago, but yeah, Snoop has probably got me beat at some point.\n\nedit: by the way, M83 Outro is one of the most amazing songs ever made",
"what is worlds highest ass show me the highest ass"
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World's Highest Everything ( Somebody needs to Make the updated version of This cool Montage from 8 Years ago)
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https://youtu.be/ZNnVhPtiAAE
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/r/videos/comments/rjiqw8/what_is_the_worst_zelda_game/
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[
"skyward sword",
"Zelda for the CD-i has entered the chat…",
"Great! I can't wait to bomb some dodongos!",
"Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess",
"I can say Breath of the Wild is the best Zelda game, in my book. Only a little one nay - inability to fix weapons.\n\nNot sure which one's the worst, skyward sword, probably."
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What is the WORST Zelda Game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zto2iEDvGXE
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/r/videos/comments/rjj01p/cut_my_hair_bro/
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[
"omg he is sooo right. cut his hair -fuck!",
"It has some real \"Pet the dog!\" vibes to it.",
"One time at a barber shop my normal guy wasn't there but I really needed a cut that day so i went with another guy who my brother goes to. Legit took 3 hours for a buzzcut, fade and clean lines. The guy, during my haircut-\n\n* Took everyone's Popeyes order and ordered over the phone\n* Went to the parking lot cause he wanted to see my car (he was into jdm apparently) \n* Opened his laptop to show me his MMO character\n* Got raided by another guild and said \"sorry dog I gotta defend this\"\n* Got Popeyes delivered from his boy and ate all of it in front of me\n* Made me take a seat while he cut another guy's hair because he \"had an appointment first\"\n* Got several calls where he put the clippers down and walked away cause he had to yell at someone in patois\n\nAt the end my shit was still crooked. Barber shops man...",
"On more than one occasion I've had my barber go out to take a smoke break in the middle of my hair cut. Hate going to the barber shop.",
"[Was this your barber? ](https://i.imgur.com/nSQyFGS.jpg)",
"That episode is so fucking good, man",
"I've been to one legit barber shop. I paid twice as much for a haircut that took twice as long to look no better than if I went to some shitty great clips. Currently I haven't had a haircut in almost 2 years. I'm going to start cutting the back from time to time so the front can catch up here pretty soon. \n\nAnyway, fuck a barber shop unless your hair isn't fairly straight. If that's the case, I feel for you.",
"Reminds me of this:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oEAqg-tI6E",
"For real though. Just cut the man's hair.",
"Ohhh man when I saw that episode for the first time it cut me deep, many people probably thought it was an exaggerated plotline, I promise you it wasn't. That story I posted was my worst experience, but far from my only one",
"I feel ya, been cutting my own hair for a few years now, saves a ton of money over time. I kinda miss the barber shops though, just for the crazy stories you get and for the heated debates you get to witness/walk in on. I haven't been able to hear what the hood thinks of Kanye for years now. Good times",
"I wouldn’t have sat through that. Would have called the manager and then gone to like a Great Clips to just have it finished up.",
"These kinds of places don't really have any managers or hierarchies haha",
"Dude said he'd call the manager lmao.",
"As soon as I clicked the link I knew there had to be a Bibby reference in here.\n\n\"Yeah, he had queef engine or something like that. And his carburetor had jaundice.\"",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2OwPAekaAU",
"Feel sorry for all the people in here with experiences like this. Before I went bald, I went to the same barbershop for virtually my entire life. Operated by a couple of old Italian guys. Great work, decent price.",
"On the other hand then you get that sharp focus haircut. On the other hand then you get smoke chemisorbed to your hair",
"Fuck this is so hilarious haha",
"What show?",
"Atlanta",
"Love it"
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Cut my hair bro
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqZdfxc-fq0
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/r/videos/comments/rjj4h4/why_hasnt_planet_of_the_apes_the_musical_been/
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[
"-troy: Can I play the piano anymore?\n-Ape: well of course you can! \n-Troy: But I couldn't before! *Piano tinkle*",
"Well you have finally made a monkey out of me.",
"Best line ever",
"I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-A to chimpan-Z",
"this play has everything",
"Help me Dr Zaius!",
"Because we already have perfection.",
"Dr Zaius Dr Zaius! Dr Zaius Dr Zaius! Ohhh, Dr Zaius!",
"I read the book and this was in my mind the whole time.",
"I love legitimate the-A-ter",
"Well it showed how much Troy McClure's career turned around now that he was dating a person.",
"This gets posted like once a month lol",
"Because Phil Hartman was murdered in his sleep in 1998 by his wife.",
"I think of this every time I hear about Planet of the Apes.\n\nAs a kid I thought it was a musical at first.",
"The world isn't ready.",
"Nice word for word copy of a 4 month old YouTube comment.",
"RIP Phil Hartman. One of my favourite comedic actors who left us way too early.",
"I hate every ape I see\nFrom chimpan-a to chimpan-zee\nNo, you'll never make a monkey out of me\n\nOh my God, I was wrong\nIt was Earth all along\n\nYou've finally made a monkey\nApes: Yes, we've finally made a monkey\nTroy: Yes, you've finally made a monkey out of me\nApes: Yes, we've finally made a monkey out of you\n\nTroy: I love you, Dr. Zaius!",
"Soul",
"And such a dated movie reference at that. I feel like later-era Simpsons became way less idiosyncratic and more about making really obvious pop culture references and celebrity cameos, whereas classic era got so much mileage out of quirkier, off-kilter references.",
"Theres like 5 comments here from the youtube comments. Its all bots.",
"All I know is this came out 25 years ago, and I maybe saw it once after that… and when I clicked this video I could basically sing the entire thing from memory. How does that even work.",
"Probably in my top 5 Simpson's lines",
"This comment was made on the linked video two months ago word for word.",
"RIP Phil Hartman. Fuck Andy Dick.",
"BEST LINE EVER",
"I said the REAL Planet of the Apes.. \nPerfection.",
"> later-era Simpsons became way less idiosyncratic and more about making really obvious pop culture references and celebrity cameos, whereas classic era got so much mileage out of quirkier, off-kilter references.\n\nThe United States has lost its \"central culture\" due to streaming media and Facebook curated timelines.\n\nThere was a turning point circa 1997-2010 where you could be *reasonably sure* you were referencing something that a total stranger would *probably know about*.\n\nThat shit died by 2010.\n\nWe're more than a decade into isolated media bubbles and I find it amazing that people who live in the same zip code as me are totally unaware of current events because they curate \"current events\" out of their media feed.",
"Thank you Conan O'Brian",
"*What's wrong with me?*\n\nI think you're crazy\n\n*I want a second opinion*\n\nYou're also lazy",
"I remember seeing this episode of Simpsons when I was a kid. \n\nAnd later that evening I ran to my mom and asked to see the movie almost immediately... and had my mom rent it at the local video store for the weekend.\n\nWe sat down to watch it and after it finished she asked how'd I liked it\n\nand I replied \"It was fine, but I'm sad there weren't any songs\"\n\nShe gave me the most puzzled look lol. \n\nAnyway 20 years later, the singing in this episode reminded me how good and convincing the song really truly was.",
"I love you Dr. Zaius!",
"Yeah, shared media experiences are tough these days. Not really many \"water cooler\" type things, other than maybe major film releases. A lot of the time it's just \"have you seen X?\" - \"no, not yet, don't spoil it for me\".",
"Yeah, it's just like in The Stranger when Mike has no idea what Bob is talking about.",
"You make a great point, thought to be fair, the Simpsons' quality died a long time before 2010.\n\nIt's was interesting for me watching as a kid in the '90s in Australia as well, because there were so many jokes about American political figures or things that we just didn't have a reference for. Now that I'm older and more world-aware, I can get references I never used to. Things like Henry Kissinger losing his glasses in the toilet for Homer to find went over the head of 10 year old me, but is hugely funny now I know who he is.\n\nNever stopped the show from being insanely funny to me as a kid though.",
"You're crazy."
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Why hasnt Planet of the Apes the musical been made yet?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN5lzg3TE60
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/r/videos/comments/rjj9co/john_wick_vs_john_rambo_vs_john_mcclane_epic_rap/
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[
"They still make these? Wow.",
"They come out a lot less frequently than usual. But they do still come out. Some are even pretty decent. The one with Jeff Bezos vs. Mensa Musa was really well-done.",
"Someone post some Chad Vader now!"
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John Wick vs John Rambo vs John McClane. Epic Rap Battles Of History
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPFG0d1ZSyI
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/r/videos/comments/rjjolq/how_a_kashmiri_chef_is_keeping_the_art_of_mutton/
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[
"Huh, so any newer video with 5-7 comments have bots or karma farmers now?\n\nedit: comments are being ripped from YT",
"Can you tell me why you're doing what you're doing? Are you a bot? A real person? Are you the same person behind all the similar comments with a two day old accounts? I mean, I'm on to you and the others (?). You can tell me or I can pursue this until you and all the other accounts are banned.\n\nedit: appears the comments are ripped directly from YT, so probably a bot",
"I know very little of this cuisine. I hope it tastes nice, because honestly watching that pinkish meat paste at the end slathered with boiling oil was not appetizing. \n\nIt's an interesting thing to watch this guy with his specific skillset and specialized tools (pots built into the floor that is over a giant fire pit? Neat!) and insist his way is the only proper way and no future generation will ever get to enjoy this because no one wants to work hard anymore blah blah blah. It's a strange form of gatekeeping combined with a smattering of luddite thinking. I'm willing to bet with modern tools and techniques this can be done at the same quality in a fraction of the time.",
"Right? I wouldn't mind trying it, but damn, it really doesn't look the part.",
"nasty finger nails in the food"
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How a Kashmiri Chef Is Keeping the Art of Mutton Harissa Alive — First Person
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLquMhQiz4
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/r/videos/comments/rjk60x/we_shoved_a_rocket_motor_into_a_christmas_tree/
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[
"What, only 300 feet and no chute?",
"Didn’t ask",
"Lots of dick swinging for a tree that went as high as an uncle Rico football throw.",
"Lol the candy canes made it all the way to the top.",
"The launch is at 14:58 if you're in a hurry",
"Was it not possible to just include 1 full recording in normal speed of the whole flight? Just 20 times the start in slow motion..."
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We Shoved A Rocket Motor Into A Christmas Tree
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQu9r5c3_-g
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/r/videos/comments/rjkdlu/upstairs_neighbours_when_you_want_a_quiet_night_in/
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"The [remix](https://youtu.be/48laJC8wYl4) of this is pure fire",
"But this looks like a lot of fun!",
"Atheists don't dance?!",
"Now we're talking! \n\n[This](https://youtu.be/Vfbl-PgJIa0) one is as well.",
"Atheists don’t have neighbors? Or atheists don’t give a shit about their neighbors?",
"I think it’s the people in large groups all deluded in the same way.",
"Do you live next to a dance club?",
"I can certainly understand if you get in a trance-like state if you would participate in that thing. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5goISKPSH8\n\nOr this. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/2WHx2ITKtUg?t=97",
"Or just incorporate it into your video...\n\n[Witch Doctor](https://youtu.be/0ttGgIQpAUc)",
"[Priest has entered chat ](https://youtu.be/ss1XJSp4UsE)",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfmoIHY7Z-k&ab_channel=TheHouseoftheDank",
"I can't find the original video for this, but [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyzcR4tgwZQ) is a full video of a session from a similar group.\n\nIt's insanely hypnotic. They get a real workout doing this stuff, too. You can see the sweat by the end.",
"I don't know why, but these things are so off-putting to me.",
"That was fucking banging, nice one mate",
"I was thinking the same thing. I would be down for that.",
"“Tell me where da freaks at”",
"yes, I was going to come post the earthquake Jojo remix!",
"Humanity is so g dang weird.",
"I'd love to go try one of these once. It's similar to punk rock circle pits.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/99Oix0nLngc\n\nThere's something communal, spiritual, and cathartic about getting sweaty with a bunch of dudes in a big circle.",
"just tap the roof with your broom handle",
"[Shake that ass for me; shake that ass for me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGv8CFDj5yI)",
"Not enough ladies, too many men. Too many dicks, too many dongs, too many schlongs. Now sing this song. Too many dicks on the dance floor.",
"I know. I think OP is joking, those are not his/her real upstairs neighbors",
"You're fucking with me aren't you?\n\nYour comments show you're from Calgary and i'm named after an obscure punk band from Calgary and you're saying really stupid shit so you must be fucking with me.\n\nCircle pits were common in the punk scene when it was still called slamdancing. You go in a circle and you can skank around the pit easier.\n\nHere's the most awkward tutorial.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/0HbFrM4Lm18",
"Yes! This is the version I was looking for. Thx.",
"This kind of thing shows how every religion has tripping balls somewhere in there if you look hard enough",
"This is what the room above me is doing every time I stay in a hotel.",
"The original of this particular video iirc is around 30 minutes long, they start moving in a fast whirlpool not unlike a punk show moshpit, it's insane how they can keep this energy up for so long.",
"Color me surprised",
"The timing is off though. The music has a faster tempo than the dancers.",
"[The song used.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H5uAeFisOk)",
"complete opposite this seems a ton of fun. Maybe I'm just the touch-starved equivalent for concerts",
"has the same appeal as those like, ceremonial warrior dance+chant type of deals. \n\nseems fun as hell",
"Haven't seen this in a bit. Thanks for the reminder.",
"aerobics?",
"Can understand if it's like [this as well.](https://youtu.be/coI4mwtBDYE)",
"I agree it's not a pit if everyone is going in a very orderly circle like tools. Fucking slam into each other, no order, just chaos.",
"Does anyone know what they are singing in the original clip? What are the lyrics?",
"https://youtu.be/Og1TxhAxuLs",
"👍",
"This was my *downstairs* neighbor for a year or so :/ it was like every step was to drive of all of his weight and force through his heel and into the floor, and he would walk around his apartment like a server waiting tables in a busy restaurant. Christ I hated that guy.",
"I think those are just called raves and moshpits",
"Which can only be if women and men can do it together",
"Yeah, I once ended up in a Evangelical ceremony, and they closed the doors, they started singing and dancing like mad men. No shit they were seeing god.",
"Yeah the term for psychedelic shit within religion is often referred to as \"mysticism.\" And that is why some Christian denominations don't sing or dance cuz it's too close to dancing with the devil if you do it right.",
"That honestly looks like such a vibe.",
"[A circle pit is a form of moshing in which participants run in a circular motion around the edges of the pit, often leaving an open space in the centre.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshing#Variations)\n\n[Skank is different.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skank_\\(dance\\))\n\nSit down.",
"**Moshing** \n \n [Variations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshing#Variations) \n \n >The pogo was the first form of moshing. According to The Filth and the Fury, it was invented by Sex Pistols bassist Sid Vicious in 1976. A circle pit is a form of moshing in which participants run in a circular motion around the edges of the pit, often leaving an open space in the centre. A wall of death is a form of moshing which sees the audience divide down the middle into two halves either side of the venue, before each side runs towards the other, slamming the two sides together.\n \n**[Skank (dance)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skank_\\(dance\\))** \n \n >Skanking is a form of dancing practiced in the ska, ska punk, hardcore punk, reggae, drum and bass and other music scenes. The dance style originated in the 1950s or 1960s at Jamaican dance halls, where ska music was played. Ska music has a prominent backbeat played by the electric guitar on beats two and four of a 4/4 bar of music. When ska became popular amongst British mods and skinheads of the 1960s, these UK youth adopted these types of dances and altered them.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)"
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Upstairs neighbours when you want a quiet night in
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https://youtu.be/-qC2P7QYjaE
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/r/videos/comments/rjki5b/long_before_i_discovered_lotr_and_the_charge_of/
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[
"This movie fucking rocked. Not sure how well it holds up but man was it cool.",
"I talk to my dnd group about this film but no one else has seen it, despite having James Earl Jones as the main villain",
"Wow... What a fuckin speech. \n\nI'm pumped!"
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Long before I discovered LOTR (and the charge of the Rohirrim), it was this scene from Flight of the Dragons, that became etched in my memory (2 minute mark)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rjl0hq/deleted_by_user/
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"Started watching expecting to watch a few seconds and got hooked, I'll be watching more. That pizza looked amazing and the owner has a tremendous amount of character.",
"Shame prez is kind of a piece of shit.",
"My grandparents were from Sicily. I'm feeling this guy. Reminds of my uncles. My family is into meatballs, and I've never been in restaurant who has been ever CLOSE to the taste/quality and I hear the same confidence in the voice of my relatives. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of my family left who knows the secrets. I think I can make the meatballs - I know the ingredients, but I've tried before and they just were right. There is the perfect staleness of the bread I can't get down, and it makes a difference."
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"Whoa",
"No waste? That looks like a lot of paper for a tiny box.",
"Wizard!",
"Man that's so much easier with tape.",
"Now do a football",
"Yeah, what did he do with the end of the paper he cutoff? Did it.. go to waste?",
"I don't think a football is a very good Christmas present. What you want for Christmas is an official Red Ryder BB gun with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time. I think everybody should have a Red Ryder BB gun.\n\nThey are very good for Christmas.",
"You'll shoot your eye out, kid!",
"Is there no end to this conspiracy of irrational prejudice against Red Ryder and his Peacemaker?!",
"Instead of official Red Ryder, carbine action, 200-shot, range model air rifle, with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time. Might I suggest a styilsh lamp of some sort.",
"I think I won one in a contest. A box was just delivered today. Says Fra-gil-e on it. Unfortunately, I do not speak Italian.",
"3M gonna have this guy disposed of.",
"This guy does a lot of coke…",
"A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++",
"Now your kids can look at their gifts ahead of time without detection!",
"Drink more ovaltine"
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[
"Well that depends. Do they smoke everyday and how much ?",
"These commercials were peak ridiculous….but moms everywhere took them serious af.",
"Actually makes a decent point tbh. Same reason nobody should be driving under the influence.",
"Yea it's a silly ad but I definitely wouldn't want my surgeon stoned off their ass lol",
"I mean a doctor who is a heroin addict as long as he has had his fix would do your surgery Perfect lol",
"No, it doesn't because the commercial had nothing to do with driving under the influence. It was about being drug free. The commercial is bullshit because it implies that anyone who smokes weed completely lacks self control and they are high 24/7.",
"So we should ban alcohol then? /s",
"i met an indian engineer smoking weed in a bar and we became friends. he is on the guinnes world record for inventing the smallest nanorobot existing and he use it to try cure cancer having chemotherapy directly injected into the tumor and not in the whole body. went to MIT and he has the litteral guinnes logo tattooed on his arm. quite a nice guy.",
"I'll have what he's having."
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[
"super clean",
"Thanks for posting",
"It really is",
"Wait, so is it clean or dirty?!",
"The rest of the ensemble sucked ass though. How unfortunate.",
"It's both",
"I learned to play the clarinet, but could never make it sound like that. Mad respect.",
"Best I've ever heard",
"Squidward's been awfully quiet since this video dropped",
"Jesus, those runs! \n\nLawdamercy!",
"Close, but thats jazz as opposed to blues. Though, this style is definitely a dirty mix of a lot of southern styles. I can hit you with some classic blues tracks if you'd like.",
"Doreen Ketchens.",
"Jimmy Kimmel?",
"A clean playing of a dirty style",
"It's a trombone, not a trumpet. And IMO he especialy sounds really bad. Like he is drunk and high or something. Can't even hit the notes. Maybe it sounds good to people who don't even know what instruments they are listening.",
"I'm impressed someone can transpose that into sheet music.",
"Ofc is posted by George.",
"She can slay!! Here she is playing with the Louisiana Philharmonic.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/EC8_zcGEZjc",
"YouTube has been recommending that to me for weeks.",
"Not to take away from her dirty clarinet but I too had a physical reaction today from some music I came across.\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IuEEEwgdAZs",
"I love New Orleans!",
"Living legend [Doreen Ketchens](https://twitter.com/doreenja/media)",
"Not going to lie, that kind of made me tear up a bit. What a sweet woman, just her reaction even before she started playing was humble and adorable. Why is she playing on the streets when she can play like that?",
"School me my man.",
"Oh my GOD, thank you for this video. That was one of the most sublime musical experiences I've ever had. That woman can PLAY. I even watched the standing ovation lol, that was awesome.",
"I know this isn't a typical busking setup, but it makes me super sad to see someone so clearly talented performing on a street like this.",
"Wow",
"That was lovely.",
"I have been living in New Orleans for the last 12 years and been playing on royal street for the better part of it. Doreen has been nothing but the nicest and sweetest person to me and the bands I play with, local and transplant. I have so much respect for her and her playing, her demeanor, and passion to this city. She is a local legend and will go down as one for the rest of New Orleans history.\n\nedit: Also fun side note, its been awesome watching her daughter grow into an amazing percussionist. I think this is from a handful of years ago, but shes really grown into performing and has a great groove.",
"There is a house in New Orleans they call the rising sun.",
"Master of her instrument.",
"Doreen freakin kills it on Royal street and it's the reason she has become so recognized world wide. With the amount of tourists we get on the daily, she is pretty much getting paid for free promo. They also tour the states and europe when they can, where I assume they do really well.",
"I want to click, but I don’t want to get rolled.",
"It’s fine. I wouldn’t do that to you.",
"Amazing, she plays which such intense feeling",
"Here's one of my all time fave blues jam...\n\nhttps://youtu.be/BinWA0EenDY",
"It’s actually not that hard once you get the rhythm and tempo down. The sheet music actually reminds me of some of the sight reading challenges I used to do in college. Nobody ever sounded this good though",
"Maybe she just...enjoys it?",
"She's absolutely *crushing* it while the drummer sits back thinking about what she wants for lunch.",
"Are they playing House of the Rising Sun?",
"There's something about busking, man. I have a friend who is a fucking virtuoso on bass and guitar, and he still regularly busks despite being a pretty accomplished studio musician.",
"This might be the first time I've ever thought the clarinet wasn't lame. Holy smokes she's talented.",
"This is amazing, thank you very much for sharing.",
"If you love it, that's cool. But as someone who has studied music education and literally given trombone lessons, there's nothing particular impressive about any of his playing, and some of it is sloppy as hell.",
"When you're that good, two things are true:\n\n1. You probably don't need to spend too much time sitting at home practicing boring technical stuff. So you can keep your chops up between more formal gigs or recording sessions by just playing on the street.\n2. You can actually make good money busking.\n\nEven when you're that dope of a player, you gotta hustle to make a respectable living. So she has a choice between sitting at home watching Netflix or being out in the world making money and having people film her. I know which one I'd choose.",
"I'm happy to know my assumptions were incorrect",
"She needs a drummer that's actually feeling the music.",
"Netflix!",
"I can dig some fingerstyle.",
"If you look at her Youtube channel, I definitely believe this is the case.",
"Yeah",
"TIL I grew up listening to the blues and never truly realized it.",
"*trombone",
"I mean can't he just be not as good as her without instantly resorting to \"drunk or high\".\n\nRevising this last statement to just say you don't know how long they'd been out there, or if trombone is even his primary instrument. He's still good, and better than me for sure.",
"Damn, I haven't heard that one in a LONG time. Thanks for the memories!\n\nAnd yeah, that's 100% blues right there!",
"Patricia Fountain",
"He has good embouchure and technique, but he was struggling to solo within the chord progression of the tune, which makes his solo sound discordant. The clarinetist does a good job moving in the chord progression, which is part of what makes her solos work so well. The tuba player did a good job of that, too. Drummer seems kind of bored.",
"Let me introduce you to CW Stoneking, in my humble opinion, the greatest blues/jazz artist currently alive.\n\n[https://youtu.be/5\\_rDNfvbc3I](https://youtu.be/5_rDNfvbc3I)\n\n[https://youtu.be/0ZsBSSb8teA](https://youtu.be/0ZsBSSb8teA)\n\n[https://youtu.be/yQXYHL3KxXY](https://youtu.be/yQXYHL3KxXY)",
"Damn she is good",
"I don't think I've ever seen such an uninterested looking drummer in my life.",
"This is how Squidward viewed himself lol",
"I know this lady! It's Miss Doreen!",
"And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy",
"Sin city?",
"That trombone guy was playing a different song I swear haha.",
"Doreen is legit my favorite clarinetist. She's so damn talented, I wanna see her live someday.",
"Former clarinetist, this is VERY HARD. Like for everything to sound that good is very hard",
"I haven't played a trumpet in over 10 years but as someone who once played a brass instrument, yeah some parts it seems like he's blasting a lot and there's not really any tone control so it sounds really sloppy",
"How does she make that brrrrrr sound that's not like a clean note?",
"For those who don't know, this is [Doreen Ketchens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doreen_Ketchens), a musician from New Orleans. She's played for four US presidents in her career, and regularly performs free concerts on Royal Street in the French Quarter.",
"Man it’s amazing that someone that has played for presidents and is pretty accomplished has a regular busking schedule",
"She’s incredible. I had the pleasure of listening to her in person on our last visit to New Orleans.",
"Pretty sure this is the original version, they don't have the same lyrics exactly.",
"That was really dope",
"Her second solo goes even harder! It’s cool that OPs post had the transcribed notes though",
"I've never seen a video before that I knew so immediately where it took place without having an obvious landmark like the Eiffel Tower/Golden Gate etc. The video starts, and within 1 second you know it's New Orleans.",
"Her name is Doreen Ketchens and she is a freakin legend.\n\nI'm not into jazz often, but I'm soooo into her performance, she is just next level. I discovered her via this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcP2sAX90jI&ab\\_channel=peasleedab](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcP2sAX90jI&ab_channel=peasleedab)\n\nAnd this is [her YouTube Channe](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjICXsF-fT27gB2997hOpgQ)l- go support her!",
"Because music is for people, and that includes for the streets of New Orleans where jazz thrives",
"That's also not a trumpet lol. It's a trombone.",
"Played for 3 years in a big band. Never knew clarinet can sound cool.",
"No, it’s just another guy with the same last name.",
"i always considered the clarinet a boring instrument because they always put us on it as a starter instrument in band. but wow, they should have showed us this in band. that would have changed our mind. wow.",
"Can someone explain why it's dirty? It's just.. scales",
"With all the chill and none of the chill!",
"Damn I didn't even know the clarinet could do that, what a talented woman.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vL1uAXn7s",
"Fuggin filthy",
"This is [Doreen Ketchens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doreen_Ketchens).",
"Haven't read sheet music in years. Thanks for sharing.",
"The street performance culture in New Orleans is truly off the wall. There are days when you’ll incredibly master class performances every few blocks from Frenchmen to Canal.",
"> Why is she playing on the streets when she can play like that?\n\na lot of musicians in New Orleans like to jam on the streets to keep the musical traditions of the city alive",
"Sadly, everyone else seemed really lazy while clarinet lady was playing her soul out.",
"Absolutely filthy 🥰",
"The feel.",
"Oh shit. That’s royal street in Nola. I lived a block up an opposite side of the street (side the camera is pointing from)years ago. It doesn’t matter if it’s 3:am on Easter morning there are always people and noise and music. It’s something you get used to.",
"https://youtu.be/Yw74sDWPH7U\n\nYou won’t regret",
"Good cover, not such a great movie. I think it lost me right around the point where Anne Hathaway started rambling on about how she realised that \"love\" is apparently the most powerful force in the universe, like some sort of D list pokemon villain who had just been defeated by the player.",
"There is a wonderful charm to the street music in New Orleans. I've heard it so much that it's in my bones.",
"Wow.. she is amazing",
"First thing I thought watching this: I've never heard someone play a clarinet like that.",
"Hell ya",
"If you think this is poor tromboning, then you've obviously never picked up a trombone before. It is an insanely difficult instrument to play, and to play a skillful jazz improvisation on a trombone is a truly herculean task. But that said: this guy is a good trombonist. I'm not sure how one can *not* hear that; I suppose I would have to go back and un-listen to a lot of jazz.\n\nIf you're annoyed that he's missing notes, then I can also deduce that you are not very familiar with jazz, or with New Orleans jazz more specifically. \"Blue\" notes are a jazz convention -- heck, they even named a record label after the phenomenon! Precision takes a backseat to expression in most forms of jazz. As a jazz trombonist myself, I can attest to the fact that this solo would be considered quite skillful in most circles.\n\nSo, while you're certainly entitled to your own musical opinion, I don't think that it counts for very much.",
"TIL it has a name: busking. Thanks!",
"Doreen Ketchens on Royal St, in front of Rouses, French Quarter, New Orleans. She's a bad motherfucker. She's killed it there for years.",
"Throb bone",
"> Drummer seems kind of bored.\n\nThe drummer was pretty insane, imo - keeping that groove with perfect technique while as bored as she does. \n\nShe's either 1) in the pocket; 2) her kid.",
"nobody asked me but here's my favorite acid-blues track from any Japanese noise band\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7888r_vKX4&t=283s",
"this one time at Band Camp....",
"Just compare this \"down-and-dirty, daddy-not-sticking-around, drug-infested neighborhood blues, with the Jesus-as-white-as-me, hair-the-color-of-the-sun, angelic, bluegrass-playing music\" - Bill Burr",
"Agree!! That modulation gave me goosebumps.",
"Just compare this \"down-and-dirty, daddy-not-sticking-around, drug-infested neighborhood blues, with the Jesus-as-white-as-me, hair-the-color-of-the-sun, angelic, bluegrass-playing music\" - Bill Burr",
"It's more like a mixture of both Jazz and Blues. We can seperate the catagory all together and just call it. The Jews",
"and of course, she is playing in New Orleans",
"Half this comment section must be on something because they're clearly not seeing the same ensemble I am.\n\nFor starters, the trombone and sousaphone are both WAY harder to play than you're all apparently assuming. Especially in this particular style; the tuba player is mimicking a fucking walking double bass line like it ain't no thang and the trombonist ripped off a ridiculously competent jazz solo for a guy who looked like he didn't even want to be there. The drummer is nailing it stylistically too, she's playing in a freeform way that nonetheless continues to keep everything together despite all the improvisation.\n\nIf I might be so bold, I assume that a lot of the commenters here really just haven't heard this kind of \"street jazz\" before. That's a poor name for it and I don't quite know the proper term, but what I mean is that a lot of this style is just stuff you don't pick up from a book. Learning to lock into these grooves is something you do by playing every chance you get with other jazz musicians, and they're all killing it. Everything they're doing is showing off a ridiculous amount of comfort and familiarity with their instrument, even if it's not remotely close to the more classical or \"symphonic\" tone you normally hear from them.",
"Her clarinet playing is unreal.",
"Incredible",
"Thank you. Incredible",
"Clicked it expecting Rick, but it's not",
"That's part of the great musical tradition in New Orleans. You have truly world class professional musicians just giving concerts on three blocks along Royal Street. Some of the world's greatest jazz musicians played on those streets at the height of their fame for a hundred years. That whole section is blocked off to traffic so pedestrians can casually wander around and hear some top notch music.",
"Made me cry.",
"Seriously? I've been wondering this for a long time",
"She got a channel on YT: https://youtube.com/channel/UCjICXsF-fT27gB2997hOpgQ",
"Really? With the Jazz going on and the Mardi Gras stuff in the background?",
"Correct.",
"No joke, clarinet is one of my favorite instruments. It just sounds so good.",
"Instead of someone who looks like they popped an Ambien before the performance. That high hat was so weak I thought it was an accident for a sec.",
"I instantly knew it was New Orleans and I haven’t lived there since 1984.",
"I feel compelled to post [this.](https://youtu.be/5qBrPtrVbCQ?t=876) Different style, but I get hella frisson from this trombone solo, and nothing at all from the one in this thread's video.",
"I was going to be shocked if it wasn’t New Orleans.",
"Not just comfort and familiarity with their instrument, but their comfort and trust in each other as an ensemble. It’s hard to get five musicians to be that deep in the pocket and stay together that well. You can tell they all know their stuff, but they all know each other just as well.",
"I honestly can't believe Louisiana has a Philharmonic! Good for them.",
"This... is heaven. Wow.",
"Sounds like *busking made you feel good!*",
"/r/Frisson",
"No respect for those rests",
"God, I know right? I've been to jam sessions with all sorts and you do not hit the point of everyone staying in the same darn chord progression *while* fiddling with their phone, looking around at people, paying only minor attention, without a hell of a lot of practice.",
"I feel like I just got Rick Rolled...here's your upvote...",
"I’ve never been to New Orleans, and even I thought this is exactly what I would expect to find if I went there.",
"Yes!",
"100%. People assume that any note that isn't clean and perfectly on pitch is a mistake.",
"It's called counterpoint.",
"House of the Rising Sun! Awesome",
"It's called not stealing the show. It's a sign of respect.",
"[Big Long Slidin’ Thang](https://youtu.be/aaFfJSC6uz8)",
"I somehow lived in south Louisiana for much of my life and had not heard of her. Absolutely blown away.",
"Nah, he was doing alright. If you listen to him specifically you can hear him keeping a particular rhythm with the long notes that matches the tempo the drummer is on, and then doing filler in between.",
"It’s not his dad and he doesn’t have any brothers, I’m pretty sure it’s just some other dude who’s into music.",
"House of the rising sun is the greatest song ever dont @ me",
"ehhhhhhhhhh I beg to differ, while someone is playing the lead there should be strong, if quiet, support from the other instruments offering definitive root notes and chord changes as well as strong beat. The drummer was not offering any strong rhythmic support and was literally looking off in a distracted manner. The euphonium and the trombone player were not offering much strong support tonally. They were all just kindof there. Trombone was behind the beat. Better than nothing i guess but not adding to the performance and just barely helping.",
"Mardi Gras still happened in 2021. Still ate king cake, still celebrated, though in a different way, with friends and family. Hell, the Krewe of House Floats started last year. \n\nWe just didn't have parades.",
"Buskers can clean up, and for some, it's a genuine passion. Being out in public, inspiring people to give.",
"Am I wrong or is this not technically a solo? Like at what point would you differentiate a solo from just the lead melody of House of the Rising Sun?",
"This isn’t Back Pocket, so no.",
"Gat-DAMN 😍",
"I don’t understand your last question at all. Like it doesn’t even make sense to me. Why would she not be playing on the street. Music is for the people. She can play so well because she knows that.",
"Just saw her yesterday on Royal Street, she's quite something. The rest of the band is groovy as hell too",
"This video makes me wish I had this instrument as a child.",
"I didn't realize she was in New Orleans. I thought she was just a regular busker.\n\n> Why would she not be playing on the street. Music is for the people.\n\nThat's a romantic notion but it often doesn't pay for shit.",
"The humanity just mainlined into my soul. Broke me down. The feels. An unspeakable thing she just spoke. Clear as day, but can’t be reproduced.",
"I played it for a few years in middle school because at my school they had us pick band or choir. I thought it was kind of lame so I promptly dropped it at the first available time because I thought it was lame. I had no idea it could do this. Damn.",
"This isn't even really a solo, just the melody of the tune",
"a- You like it because you recognize the melody.\n\nb- The notion that \"the dirtiest clarinet solo\" could be played on anything higher than a baritone clarinet is nonsense. She's playing an angel's trumpet compared to [the sonic mud that is a bass clarinet.](https://youtu.be/vAn_gyNcvN4?t=263)\n\nDon't get me wrong, she's good. But dirtiest? You're still in that classical orchestra mindset. Saying that is telling me that spiciest clarinet work you'd heard until now is the Pink Panther theme. She's dirtier than Benny Goodman but this isn't any kind of Art Ensemble of Chicago performance. Nevermind whatever free jazz freak played the actual dirtiest clarinet solo.",
"Yeah this is house of the rising sun not a solo or anything freeform. Played the hell out of it though.",
"Lots of reasons. Some people do it for the money, some do it for the chops, some do it because if they don't they'll go crazy. \n\nI live in Nashville and there's tons of people playing the bars on Broadway during the week that you'll find backing up A-level country stars in arenas on the weekend.",
"squid ward would be proud",
"So do I. Mardi Gras is what you make it. \n\nIt'll be back to something more \"normal\" this year.",
"Ok, extra shoutout here. \n\nShe checks her phone almost immediately after this solo and is fully invested in whatever texts she's receiving and actively responding to... while nailing the song. \n\nThen puts her phone away while Trombone guy is finishing up before launching into the second solo. \n\nI'm not saying this to throw shade on her for checking her phone during a performance. I'm saying this to reinforce that this level of performing is just another Tuesday afternoon for her, requiring no real extra focus or concentration.",
"Doreen Ketchens, ya heard me",
"Wow! Great performance",
"Not to mention all the Saints gear. Lol",
"Can somebody direct me to a sub for street musicians? I can’t seem to find it but I feel strongly that there is/should be a sub dedicated to it.",
"Here's another one, enjoy! \n\n\n[John Butler Trio - Ocean](https://youtu.be/LsnFvEQYJPU)",
"Doreen Ketchens. Believe that’s her daughter on drums. Her husband often plays tuba with her (I can’t tell if that’s him in this video)",
"Ill never understand why people will randomly interject their opinion in an unrelated manner like that. It's like \"hey internet, I know the vast majority of you love this thing, but I don't and here's why!\" I'm just talking shit, I enjoyed your little diary entry.",
"What else would it be? lol",
"Squidward would be fuming at this",
"Pretty sure her clarinet needed a cigarette break after that",
"You ever watch the guy play the keyboard in the Animals music video? Shit is insane.",
"I love New Orleans",
"Holy shit I've never involuntarily ugly-cried to a piece of music like that. I feel like I just went through the gas-chamber at boot camp. WOW that lady realllly feels the music more than almost anyone I've ever seen or heard.\n\n**Edit:** another video that gets me right in the feels every time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijEiwBLCXeo",
"you know it's a good solo if you almost fall out yo chair",
"I wouldn't exclude the possibility that it's someone else from his family, there's a lot of Jacob content on the channel",
"If you look at his last video’s description, he has a faq where he confirms that he is unrelated \n\nhttps://youtu.be/bE-GoeNvq-4",
"I was gonna say, who the fuck is this person because that straight up might be the best clarinet playing I've ever heard and I'm a jazz dork.",
"Squidward wishes he could.",
"Yep, almost every week thursday or friday through sunday or monday. Unless shes out of town or has something going on, she and Lawrence (tuba man and her husband) + whatever band shes got atm will be on St Peter and Royal",
"It's such a wonderful experience to learn of someone new and to watch her get lost in the music. What a wonderful performer!",
"> The Animals. \n \n\nhttps://youtu.be/uS90B4sZf7U",
"Dirty indeed. I’ve never heard that kind of emotion come thru a clarinet. Fucking sick 🤙🏼",
"I visited New Orleans a few years ago and stumbled upon her playing, probably in this same spot. It was absolutely incredible. If you like jazz and live music even a little bit, you owe it to yourself to take a trip to New Orleans. There were so many amazing groups just out on the streets playing for free, it was sublime.",
"Man that is some soul",
"What an easy watch!!!",
"*I can hear him say it*",
"Well I can't speak for anyone else when it comes to random tangents, but while listening to the above song that was linked I started reminiscing about what a disappointment that movie turned out to be for me. I'm aware that many people enjoyed it and can completely respect that. But by the conclusion of that cover I was still in this thread and decided to take the opportunity to vent about my feelings since it feels cathartic to do so. \n\nIf you like I can go on a diatribe about what a stinker Tenet was, since I think it's more universally to hate on that particular film 😂",
"Doreen Ketchens: [Studio performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCE9PaXvNxY)",
"Lol she wouldn't busk if she didn't want to. \n\nI have a number of professional musician friends. At her caliber if she wanted to just make money she could with ease. She busks because she enjoys it.",
"100% agree, that second solo is just insane. That guy on the trombone is much more talented than I was playing 'bone in college, to say nothing of the absolute beast on the tuba or the drummer holding it down flawlessly. \n\nEdit: Honestly that tuba solo is the most technical part, I think that is 4 octaves of tuba?",
"[This is probably a good place to start](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rouses+Market/@29.9580466,-90.064719,113m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x8620a611e7fb269f:0x52a9ee3ab55853d!2sRouses+Market!8m2!3d29.9581406!4d-90.064786!3m4!1s0x8620a611e7fb269f:0x52a9ee3ab55853d!8m2!3d29.9581406!4d-90.064786)",
"The transcription is cool, but I'm disappointed the trilling isn't notated",
"As someone with musicians in the family, she's probably making more money busking. \"Formal\" clarinet gigs are generally few and far between, and there are only so many openings for orchestras and only so many weddings wanting a clarinet player. The USA is full of trained singers working as social workers doing gigs on the side, because their degree gets them in the door.\n\nDepending on the market and area and type of busking it can be crazily lucrative, especially if it involves the crowd. Penn (of Penn & Teller) has talked about how he got his start as a street juggler doing juggling and magic, and was making so much money his accountant was telling him to basically lie. e.g., \"There's no way the government will believe you're making this and it doesn't involve drugs. I know it's true and I barely believe you.\"",
"Oh god, sight reading challenges made my cry every time lol.",
"Not at all. She is busking for her love of the music and to spread that joy to others. Not out of necessity or lack of accessibility to \"greater\" venues.",
"You can feel that deep in your bones...\n\nMagnificent!",
"That is by far the weakest part of the movie but holy hell I loved Interstellar. I've rewatched it about 10 times and it still gets me every time.\n\nI do agree though, the first time I saw the Anne Hathaway 'love' scene I was like \"oh ffs\", and although the scene itself hasn't grown on me with subsequent viewings, it *does* make sense in the context of the movie's narrative.\n\nI'm sure you get it already but her point isn't that love is the most powerful force in the universe; just that love - like gravity - can transcend time and space; e.g. even though the person Anne Hathaway's character loved is likely long dead on a distant planet, her feelings for him are still a 'force'. Given a choice between going to Dr. Mann or Wolf, with no other information readily available to make that choice, it's love that's the force leading Brand into choosing Wolf's planet over Dr. Mann's.\n\nThis later is reflected in the ending, where after Cooper enters Gargantua it is his love for his daughter that constructs and models the 5D realm where he can affect the past, and he uses gravity to transmit the data to Murph.\n\nSo in the end, it's a combination of love and gravity that gets the job of saving humanity done; this revelation is made more powerful by Dr. Brand's monologue that foreshadows it. The movie is less rich without it, but there's something about the monologue - either the words themselves or maybe even the way Hathaway delivers it - that just makes my eyes roll to the back of my head and totally takes me out of the movie.\n\nIt comes across as schmaltzy, and it doesn't help that it comes right after a very intense and catastrophic scene. The whole thing feels weird and jarring. I hate it.\n\nHowever, I gotta respectfully disagree that it's not a great movie. To me, it's right up there. The docking sequence will forever be in my top 10 ever movie moments.",
"that's Rouse's market on Royal",
"Is she playing the house of the rising sun or does it just sound similar?",
"Nice music but it doesn't match at all. Not even close.",
"^ favourite thing about music is how much they can tell you about it….",
"She's a legend around New Orleans",
"The most honest and to the core musicians I ever knew or appreciated, love busking. For a lot of reasons. 1- they get to play whatever/however they want no expectations or obligations. 2- they bring joy to the people who like it, and even more to the people who know them and their work. 3- they can perform mostly anonymously unless they're specifically trying to get their name out.",
"Wow such a great performance! Love it let’s get them in front of some producers!!",
"This. It's part of the city and it's history. Music is integral to the entire place and it's woven through every fiber.",
"I can completely respect your love for it, and am well aware that I'm in the minority when it comes to not really being a fan. I really did enjoy the first half, the tone was great and the sense of helplessness as they attempted to find a solution to our dying planet was an intriguing concept. But the second half of the film just falls flat for me. I understand that Nolan likes his complicated circular plots, but I just couldn't bring myself to enjoy where the film ended up compared to where it started.",
"Got. Damn. \n\nSon. Son. Son. \n\nThat was filthy.",
"You need to get her to do an AMA on the clarinet subreddit. The mods will be happy to set one up if she wants to do it.",
"Even in this clip I cracked up when she played that then placed it down and was like, \"Nah, I'm actually the singer.\" Perfect cut for comedic effect while I was still collecting my jaw from the floor.",
"It's not sad at all, you just don't know or understand New Orleans. There's a rich tradition of the creme de la creme playing in the streets there. for a lot of reasons. Performing is in their blood, and music too. The entire culture is intrinsically tied to music. A lot of VERY accomplished and well supported musicians still love to busk for a few reasons 1- No obligations, no expectations you can do whatever tf you want 2- you're mostly anonymous except for when someone recognizes you which depending on your level of fame can be very unlikely in a city like that unless you're local. 3- you bring a lot of joy to the people who feel it and the people who know who you are and like your stuff. \n\nI have a ton of musician friends and work in music journalism, most of my favorite musicians are so hardwired to perform that busking is an outlet between gigs. It also can make A LOT of money in just a few hours.",
"Holy shit. Thanks for adding this.",
"Dang, that was several steps above expectations.",
"Damn now that was some arpegiation, if that isn't a word before, this lady helped invent it.",
"Also has been known to play at MSY welcoming everyone",
"It’s a 12 string guitar. Those are always a reverb joy to listen to.",
"Fair enough! The subjectivity of movies is what makes them so interesting, eh.\n\nTo be honest, the first time I watched Interstellar I don't think I fully appreciated it and I felt largely the same as you described. The second time around I watched it with my wife, and found myself appreciating it a lot more, which led to me loving it.\n\nI only regret I never got to see it on an IMAX screen.",
"If you would've told me earlier today that I would be tearing up at 2:50am after watching a YouTube video of an absolutely amazing clarinet performance, I would've looked at you like you were an alien. \n\n​\n\nAnd, well, here we are.",
"I've never in my life seen a clarinet played in such a way!",
"Yup... I teared up, too.",
"i love the passion",
"I'm sorry that you've never been able to enjoy sharing.",
"Admittedly I should make an effort and go back for another watch. I love my sci fi, and all of that stuff was definitely on point for me when I last watched it. It was mostly just all the dull human drama stuff that got to me, I get what Nolan was trying to go for but it just didn't hit its mark for me.\n\n>I only regret I never got to see it on an IMAX screen.\n\n2024 will be the 10 year anniversary so make sure to keep an eye out since they might do an imax rerelease!",
"Ok",
"Thank *you* for posting, she’s wonderfully talented.",
"Can anybody explain why is this style called \"dirty\"?",
"Such a fucking iconic song. Literally 2 two seconds in and I recognized it. That sheet music is light years ahead of my understanding though haha.",
"Yes she is.",
"Dem lungs tho! She can really hold them notes",
"It sounds like NOLA. You can't mistake it.",
"a legend?! whats her name?!?!?!?",
"Gonna need clarinet lessons to take a Xanax.",
">https://youtu.be/mjr8jZ83vic\n\nWTAF. I couldn't stop crying... I'm not a religious man but it almost felt as if she was straight PREACHING with the congregation of the orchestra supporting her expression",
"Same. I give Disneyland (near Pirates of the Caribbean) all the credit",
"Thank you for this",
"She is playing it. She starts to sing it as well. There's a longer YouTube video higher up in the comments",
"Fucking 11 tuplet ..",
"As a tuba player, the clarinets have always been my favorite woodwinds. I think they just naturally get along",
"Is this in new orleans",
"Why though? Can you try and put it into words?",
"Gonna need clarinet lessons to take a Xanax.",
"It's all about the love of performing. The venue is irrelevant. She wants to bare her soul to as many as who'll listen. And I really think it is mostly her altruism that she wants to expose her backing musicians to as wide an audience as possible too.",
"very nice!",
"Well I mean, they told you right in the lyrics.",
">The video starts, and within 1 second you know it's New Orleans.\n\nIt's got nothing to do with the lyrics that start a minute in",
"I was lucky enough to hear her play when I was in New Orleans for the day. I realized she was damned good when I saw her, but I didn't realize what an institution she is until years later when I saw a different video on reddit.",
"No it's illegal to sing that song anywhere else.",
"Looks like Doreen Ketchens, according to some other comments here.",
"are you high?",
"Doreen Ketchens.",
"let me widen your horizons with something quite a bit [more insane](https://youtu.be/L_XJ_s5IsQc?t=7m13s)\n\nedit: also do yourself a favor and listen to the whole masterpiece from the beginning",
"Commenting to save--that was amazing",
"This is one of the most amazing musical performances ever captured. A room full of classically trained musicians who just got blown away by a street performer. None of them can even hold a candle to her, she is so amazing and if seems to come so effortlessly to her.",
"Best trombone player I’ve ever heard was outside of St. Louis Cathedral.",
"Yep, probably my favourite song of an time, and a fantastic rendition of it this is.",
"She has her own YouTube channel as well - https://youtube.com/channel/UCjICXsF-fT27gB2997hOpgQ\n\nWith songs, lessons and other stuff.",
"\"Transcribe\" I think, but yeah",
"Yes.",
"Do you know the name of the song playing? I shazam it and it comes with a guy who co-opted the song. I'm wondering what the orginal is. It's on the tip of my tongue type thing, but I can't recall it.",
"You're right. Transposing is taking a piece of music and writing/playing it in a different key. Transcribing is writing down music.",
"Damn!!!",
"I remember going to this shithole bar next to Opry Mills and heard the best rendition of Luckenbach Texas I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen Willie live.",
"She starts singing the words at the end of the video...lol",
"Probably Music City Bar, they do it right\n\nNashville Palace and Scoreboard are both in the same parking lot but they aren't as divey as Music City Bar. Good players at all three, though. Sometimes guys come over after playing in the house band at the Opry and finish off the night on stage at of those places.",
"It’s my dream to go back to New Orleans (I was much younger at the time) just to find Doreen and sit and watch her as long as she plays.\n\nMy girlfriend knows that if there is Doreen sighting, we’re canceling the rest of the days plans.",
"I don't know anything about music composition, but I love the parts that are all BLRGRBLGLR in the middle of smoothness.",
"Damn I love New Orleans. That area of the country in general. Was at a gas station some miles out of the city on a road trip, and I think it was the first time that someone was talking to me technically in English but I just could not understand them \n\nAlso Huey Long is probably one of my favorite historical American politicians",
"Is that the House of the Rising Sun?",
"It’s rough. Like if you gave that sheet music to a classically trained clarinetist they’d play something completely different.",
"Back in the big band era clarinet was lit af. The sax kind of took its role over the years though.",
"It’s been years but that sounds right. The pool table was missing half its balls and my friend got threatened by a dude who I’m pretty sure was mobbed up, but the music was awesome.",
"TIL there is specifically a technique for Clarinet called \"Growl\" on some sheet music. Damn.",
"This was right outside my local rouses! \n\nEveryone that plays out front is incredibly talented.",
"Agreed. Also \"The Sweet Science\" from the Madison Square Garden concert",
"Epic.",
"Doreen! I met her a few years back. She’s as much of a gem as she is a legend. Absolutely adore her.",
"Thanks for sharing it.",
"Outstanding!",
"I live here too and she is SOOOO amazing... I'm a classically trained violinist, and though I don't really play anymore I know what I'm listening to from that standpoint and she is gold. My jazz ears are still growing in but obviously she's gold on that front as well. Sounds like she's a golden person all around. She always makes my day when I'm in the quarter on the weekend.",
"Sure you can say that. But then you're kind of saying that you think it's sad that someone enjoys playing on the streets of their own city, for their own people, and right there among them, as opposed to being on a stage.\n\nI'm sure you can imagine the joys a musician can get out of something like that without it being sad?",
"I only went there once and I saw her throw down a powerful set at the French Quarter Festival. She captivated everyone from toddlers to grannies.",
"Best thing I’ve seen in weeks - she’s honking on that reed like a motherfucker 💪🏻",
"> a handful of years ago\n\nHow many years can fit in a hand?",
"Who the fuck applauds halfway through a piece & even after the soloist? So disrespectful to the other members of the orchestra",
"It's called trilling. You tighten your tongue up next to the air column which makes it bounce a little, like a Spanish word with double r's. And that makes your embouchure (lips) vibrate which produces this controlled, warbling tone. \n\nIt's fairly easy to do on some instruments like trumpets. But I've never heard it mastered like this on a clarinet before.",
"You have just defined music.",
"And this is why I struggle and gave up trying to read music. I’d rather just listen to the music and play it that way Vs trying to spend hours figuring out the right note lengths etc.",
"Squidward could never",
"That sounded amazing! Really hits you in the soul.",
"She was so bashful and humble with the standing ovation too. What an incredible performance.",
"Clicked it expecting you to be in on the joke and lying about it not being Rick, but you're not and it wasn't.",
"She’s known as the Clarinet Queen!",
"Harmonic resonance, melodic dissonance. \n\nClassic Jazz.\n\nJazz is as much [the notes you play correctly as the notes you play \"wrong\".](https://i.imgur.com/4x4XOCS.gif)\n\nDudes be up in here Jon Snowing the fuck outta some music theory.\n\nEdit: dissonance, not dissidence. Was dumb; mixed up Music Theory and Political Science terminology.",
"Tied for the best show ive ever seen live.",
"Clarinet has the widest gap of sound quality between beginner and expert of any instrument, including violin. A clarinet played by a master is one of the most ear-gasmic instruments on the planet. A clarinet played by a beginner sounds like a sick duck. Oboe and violin have pretty similar gaps as well, but I don't think are quite as wide.",
"What an amazing way to start the day",
"Yeah the actual solo comes later in the full performance. Bad titling.",
"Sheet music is actually pretty simple!\n\nIf you look at the keyboard, each line and the space between the lines corresponds to a key. So one line is the A-note, the next space to follow is the B-note and so on. The dots will have some lines above them indicating how long to hold that note.\n\nOf course there is a lot more details, but that is sheet music at its core.",
"Jibon mane to jontrona",
"holy shit.\n\nthank you internet for bringing this to my attention",
"Bingo, not a solo per say, but a good run on a great riff",
"For those not familiar with the base song, Jazz style, or both: [Start here (3:13 into the song) and listen to the predominant melody as performed by the orchestra, followed by the Jazz modulation by Doreen.](https://youtu.be/EC8_zcGEZjc?t=213) The intro features a very heavy Jazz interpretation, and can be difficult to appreciate the talent exhibited.",
"One trick pony?",
"This made my day",
"Yeah thats it",
"ok juyt",
"natural born artist",
"Damn!!! that is amazing! I've never heard of her till now, thank you!",
"The phone was funny, but I was most impressed that she blasted that solo and still had the pipes to sing straight after. Amazing.",
"Music to my ears",
"Jesus fucking Christ. What a goddess.",
"Neil Cicieriega has entered the chat",
"I was hoping it's her, she's absolutely great!\n\nEdit: what's going on with the drummer?",
"Simply amazing 🙌🏻",
"Imagine hearing hear doing a nice clarinet battle with Sidney Bechet.",
"I must have passed the tipping point into old age bc, when she begins that second solo and is hitting those amazing notes, some young whippersnapper walks by and stops to take a picture of a fucking Bud Light window display, completely ignoring her.\n\nWTF is wrong with kids these days? :)",
"Squidward on suicide watch",
"But why do they look so destitute and down on their luck? Shouldn't they be playing to fully booked halls or something?",
"Crazy I took a video in this exact spot in New Orleans about 2-3 years ago of another band.",
"You're not supposed to feel when listening to music !!",
"People are so frustrating haha",
"Oh my god that was insane. Her and the Trombone player KILLED that shit. I've never seen anything like this",
"What makes it dirty?",
"I played trumpet for 5 years I can appreciate that jaw drop lmao",
"I also love the drummer. It’s like her natural lazy state is being an extremely good drummer",
"Damn big momma get it! This is your house!",
"She’s not begging for money.",
"I was wondering if she is listening to a podcast on her headphones.",
"You'll find your thing one day. \n\nI'd start by quitting whatever job is making you miserable.",
"OP just posted the video. [George Collier](https://youtube.com/c/GeorgeCollier) is the one who does these transcriptions because he has insane pitch recognition. My man makes pianos sound out of tune (because technically they are).\n\nEdit: Apparently George Collier isn’t related to Jacob Collier? Anyway, credit goes to George. Jacob is still really cool.",
"She and her kind simply don't just play for money. They play to live.",
"NOlens... nuff said. you want finest fucking street music and a thousand different food dishes that will make you food-gasm every time? its where its at.",
"this is beautiful. thank you for linking the vid.",
"She got pipes",
"It’s not trilling. Trilling is alternating quickly between the home pitch and a semitone above which isn’t what’s happening here. You’re describing “growling.” It’s also called flutter-tongue on brass instruments. You can see that George put “growl” on the measure annotations in the video.",
"Growling for woodwinds is called flutter-tongue on brass instruments. Now you know a little more. There’s a lot of musical techniques with weird names.",
"That was incredible.",
"It has a lot leading roles and solo parts in classical music as well. Either the clarinette or the oboe always have the best solos in my opinion. That goes for symphonic and chamber music. Never got the bad rep.",
"AMT was about the last thing I expected to see in the comments on this video haha",
"Does it present as a \"Growling sound\" in this song? Or is that her adding flair onto it?",
"Wow",
"Nawlins gets in your blood shawty",
"There’s no growling in the original recording of House of the Rising Sun. She’s improvising along the melody, which would’ve been the lead singer in the original recording. Different playing techniques likes growling gives the solo texture. This solo would’ve been less interesting to listen to had she played every note clean and flat, so she decided to add flair by growling some notes.",
"Wow, wish I saw her busking when I was out in New Orleans. I gotta say though, NOLA buskers are on another level, even their OK buskers are better than what you'll see in other cities. Only place I've seen anyone comparable is NYC but they're fewer and further between.",
"Please tell me if you find one, I'd be all about that.",
"House of the Rising Sun",
"Hi, if you don’t mind me asking, how does she do the blaring sound where it sounds like an effect a brass instrument would have? I think it’s marked on the sheet music as ‘growl’. I assume it’s an extended technique but I’ve never heard anything like it on the clarinet.\n\nI’m just a very interested music student who has shockingly little knowledge about the woodwind section lol",
"I would put flutes and French horns in this category too, hell maybe it’s just a woodwind/brass thing",
"I couldn't help but occasionally *grunt* while listening to that.",
"A solo in this context is just the instrument who takes the lead role in a section of music, quite often with improvisations",
"My soul just thanked her.",
"Amazing. Also that transcription work is crazy good.",
"So fitting that this was filmed in New Orelans",
"Doreen Ketchens!!!",
"I don't think they meant they don't understand sheet music lol. They mean *that* particular sheet music is next level, from a skills perspective.",
"Former high school clarinetist here - I didn't think the clarinet could be cool until now either.",
"Surprised not find any albums on Spotify, I could listen all day",
"You have to listen to the notes he's *not* playing[.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbeilmP2wY8)",
"Here's what I don't understand about musicians like her. Did she read sheet music, or just come up with that melody?",
"Nah, just the music and lyrics to it :D",
"shes killing it. I spent the entire video trying to figure out if the trombone guy even knows the song....",
"nice kaku",
"Give a try also to Greek clarinet music :) Very different to western playing style. For example this piece and especially the improvisation after 3:34\nhttps://youtu.be/8Iv9i7PTNZE",
"Wow what a talent, thanks for sharing. That was so joyful, was grinning all the way through.",
"I saw this this morning, it kinda made my day. I didn't think the clarinet could do that",
"I really enjoyed that, not read music in years, and after a few seconds I could read along.",
"Yeah me too. I’ve never cried from a piece of music without lyrics before but that was so incredible. Her passion for musical expression is really something to behold. I was not expecting that.",
"ive seen her in New orleans when i lived there.\n\nshe blows her soul down that woodwind.",
"House of The Rising Sun is one of my favorite songs to play on the piano and I recognized it right away. She crushed it!",
"Saw her when I was in the streets of New Orleans performing a couple of years ago, was absolutely mental to see live. So fucking good.",
"He's not as good as this lady, but here's a little explanation. https://youtu.be/Qic-zIQYNmQ",
"This is what Squidward thinks he sounds like.",
"Apparently the sousaphonist is her husband and the drummer is her daughter.",
"Being a guitar player, I absolutely envy reeded instruments, being able to blow through that note and give it a natural raspiness is ear candy.",
"Oh, thank God, she's recognized for her talents. That shit gave me chills! Woman channels spirits with her sound!",
"Yeah. I’d be accidentally singing the text out.",
"Most of the really talented musicians i know have abilty to \"play it by ear\" meaning if they hear a piece of music they can reproduce it without having to read sheet music. Shes playing house of the rising sun by the animals in this clip.",
"Amazing but it killed me that the sheet music was in the wrong key...",
"That’s amazing. House of the rising sun has never sounded better!",
"Seconded - totally worth watching the full version",
"Is the whole transcription high by a note? Or am I completely off.",
"I'm bawling. You're not alone.",
"Drummers. So under appreciated. Unless you're Phil Collins, the only time you really think about them is if they suck or fuck up. The backbone of so much music. I think it takes a genius to find a way to keep a band together while being subtle and completely blow it out on cue.\n\nEvery musician in this band is great, but I'm throwing love on the drummer for being the rock.",
"If only I wasn’t ridiculed in middle school for having to play the clarinet, maybe I would have actually grown to like it because here it sounds pretty bad ass. The best I could do was Jingle Bells and Hot Crossed Buns.",
"The couple times I've been in NOLA I've seen her. The first time I was in a shop and heard them start up. I stopped shopping and went outside. Great little band and , yes, they throw down.",
"They're just dressed comfortably.",
"I played clarinet for 8 years growing up and had no idea you could growl with it like that",
"I have never heard such rich, unique tones out of a clarinet, she's on another level.",
"Love this!!!!",
"haha it was just those kinda wet eyes and nose but not sobbing ya know. hit the right spot in the brain like when you scratch a dogs back in the right spot",
"She’s classically trained, which makes sense. Some people seem to think Jazz is less refined, but a lot of the best Jazz musicians are beasts at music theory. You have to know all the rules before you can break them (while sounding good).",
"Thanks for this, I would have never heard more if you hadn't posted it. I'm not a jazz fan at all, can't stand it, but this really amazed me. The melody, the passion, the instruments and the ease at which everyone is performing. Amazing!",
"Hearing damage",
"noi juyt",
"It’s not a classical concert there are different norms.",
"This is why I love New Orleans. You can catch something like this basically every weekend.",
"that man looks like he could leave a car accident completely unharmed.",
"I like that one dudes Necrophagist clarinet covers a lot too.",
"Gonna need clarinet lessons to take a Xanax.",
"This is why all children should have access to music lessons. You never know when a jewel will be discovered!",
"I'd throw my whole wallet in there",
"Im not clicking on the dirtiest trombone solo.",
"We make sure we see her every time we are in New Orleans!",
"Just a reminder that he created The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny and is a brilliant music funnydude",
"Fantastic!!!!",
"How do you even get this right rhythmically",
"The Philharmonic is just out there playing music, Doreen is on *some other level*",
"Super filthy!",
"It wasn't the chorus so maybe they didn't recognize",
"That was heavenly. My God. I'm a jazz addict yet I've never heard of her before. Consider me a fan",
"I love seeing a George Collier video on here. He's done a ton of really great transcription of random shit.",
"No arguments from me. I'm a big fan.",
"That growling technique is called flutter-tongue. \n\nI used to bang out improv jazz solos on the tenor sax and would hit those flutter-tongue notes. If there was ever a way to get a crowd on their feet, it was hitting those growling notes",
"House of the Rising Sun?",
"It's George Collier. He's like... real good and stuff.",
"i can feel every single hair on my head",
"Thank you for sharing that. What an incredible performance.",
"Sarcastic answer: the same way you get to Carnegie Hall. Practice, practice, practice.\n\nActual answer: kinda the same thing, considering this is jazz I doubt she ever wrote this down, she just knows her instrument really *really* fucking well. It’s got the same rhythm as the vocals to the song, just with some serious extra stank on it. Whoever transposed this (unless they used a program to do it) probably kept the drum tempo and just guessed and it fits. It’s actually kind of easier to pull this sort of thing off if you *can’t* read music sometimes because you’re not bound by “the rules.”",
"Good Lord that gave me chills",
"Chills....",
"Never thought of the clarinet as a sexy instrument until today",
"The clip that OP posted isn’t even Doreen’s best solo of the song. Here’s a longer video and check out the 3:32 & 6:40 marks, too: https://youtu.be/mjr8jZ83vic",
"I don't understand these adjectives anymore. Is this what being old is like?",
"Ratio",
"Come to new orleans. Chances are you can get a front row seat (well not really a seat..) on Royal in the french quarter. She's there all the time. One of the best.",
"Thank you! It was right on the tip of my tongue!",
"Sounded like St. James Infirmary Blues to me.\n\nEdit: Nope. I didn't get the vocal.",
"I have never heard a clarinet make that sound!",
"Holy crap, my face hurts from smiling so hard, while crying and laughing at the same time.\n\nMusic is amazing. *Amazing* music is just fucking unreal.\n\nThe conductor's humble deference to her was striking too.",
"God I love New Orleans.",
"The first time I heard her walking in the Quarter I thought for sure a bar was playing some famous old clarinet player through speakers. Turned the corner and it was live! I was blown away. She is amazing!",
"que buena musica",
"Don't mean to be that super pedantic guy but that's a sousaphone not a tuba",
"Goosebumps…head to toe - damn",
"Bruh, can you imagine walking down the street and hearing this shit.",
"Never had one lesson",
"Holy shit she fucking rocks that clarinet.",
"This is really cool. Thank you for the link.",
"We went to NOLA for Christmas a couple years ago and got a chance to see them! It was awesome.",
"What makes it \"dirty\"?",
"She sounds like a mix of Louie and Sidney with a bit of Charlie Parker in there.",
"I know what it means...",
"If you live next to the Grand Canyon at some point it just becomes part of the landscape.",
"New Orleans. Royal and St. Peter. Rouses.",
"In. We Orleans you hear stuff like this walking down the street fairly often.",
"Makes ya put on a stank face",
"Happy cakeday, btw!",
"[Best version imo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQjwkXrcUrs)",
"I've seen her play before, and it was incredible. I was just walking around NO, heard the music and just had to go see where it was coming from. She goes hard af. Amazing musician.",
"Happy cakeday!",
"I haven't had a piece of music bring me to tears in years. This just made me ball out of the blue. It's beautiful",
"This needs to be higher!",
"As someone who grew up in New Orleans, yea I can total imagine that, lol. This city is filled with amazing musicians and artists.",
"How do you get that growl from the Clarinet? Does the player literally just go \"UUUGH\" into the mouthpiece?",
"Pretty sure it’s her daughter",
"It always amazes me how talented some people are—and how many really talented people are the journeymen (and women) of the music profession. There’s a lot of luck in which of them gets famous.",
"Oh wow, that's her *family* playing with her? That's so cool.",
"I have been there several times, I didn't think you could park and those cars just were broken down.",
"I used to work in the French Quarter and would often have to walk to visit clients. It was surreal just walking by all of these great musicians (not all of them as great as Doreen, to be sure) as a part of my everyday life. I hated that job, but that was a great perk.",
"Not just the same rhythm, but the same melody. She's using the melody as anchor points and improvising lines to connect the notes, adding inflections and \"growls\" for texture. \n\nI actually wouldn't call this exactly a solo, cause it is heavily organized around the melody. Though I believe the second solo she takes is more improvisational.",
"I just play it without the nails. I tried for years various ways with nails since I’ve been playing finger style for 13 years at this point, but I’ve just fallen into trimmed nails and calloused fingertips. But that version of Ocean is one of the most fun songs to play. I no doubt fuck up the timing in the second part since it’s in 3/4, but that’s why he gets paid I don’t ¯\\\\_(ツ)_/¯",
"When I first watched I was so focused on the clarinet that I just kind of saw a \"bored daughter\" in the background. \"Ma, can we go home now??? This is SOOOO embarrassing!\"\n\nI didn't notice the kit.",
"art on the street is more rewarding to her than getting paid by the president. and thank god for that\n\nit's not like she's homeless, she'll just get to her nice home after this",
"I'm not a wind instrument player but I think if they squeeze tighter and force air harder it would cause that. Great clip BTW.",
"Those big ascending runs definitely reminded me of bird's summertime.",
"Yeah, it's kind of like how Nakamura, one of the best chess players in the world, can barely look at the board and instantly see threats/opportunities/patterns that even international masters are blind to. \n\nIt kind of gives me hope, actually. Might not get to elite level X with something, but you can sure train yourself up so that the art is \"in your fingers\".",
"Player makes cover her’s. Hot and gritty, dynamic and frisson inducing.",
"The chills. Damn.",
"Wow you weren't kidding.",
"Sounds like House of the Rising Sun",
"🎵🎵She’s the best damn clarinet player in her high school band!🎵🎵",
"I look for her every time I am down there! She’s awesome.",
"God damn.",
"Yeah George and Jacob are unrelated (according to posts by George). But he definitely benefits from people searching Jacob Collier's name and finding his channel lol",
"classic music.. beautiful 😍",
"Definitely. But I appreciate that she can still swing ‘em. I’m a Lindy hopper so I’m not a fan of Bird or bebop but I can appreciate what he did for jazz. Doreen here makes those runs fucking work",
"had the chance to interview her for a project - her husband was her tuba player\n\nshe can play what is called circular breathing - basically allowing her to breathe in while still playing her instrument",
"Gave chills...",
"one of the things I will miss about leaving here",
"House of the rising sun hits hard. Woody Guthrie, bob Dylan, Eric Burdon, all versions worth listening to. An. O.G. folk song.",
"No respect for the Bari Sax thumping along with you in the back?",
"Thanks so much for posting this. In addition to being great music, I really appreciated hearing a rare tuba solo (being a former tuba player myself)",
"I don't like jazz, but I like her. Damn, she is good.",
"Wikipedia article: [Flutter-tonguing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flutter-tonguing)\n\n\nThe more \"traditional\"/classical method is using a trilled r where your tongue goes against the front of the roof of your mouth (eg. \"dog\" in Spanish). In Jazz it's common to use a \"[voiced uvular trill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_uvular_trill)\", which is further back and against your uvula instead of the front roof of your mouth (eg. \"red\" in german/dutch).",
"Dirt",
"Right?!?!??",
"My whole body just trembled. Literally; I’m 100% serious.",
"That was badass 👌",
"growling (singing in the instrument) and flutter-tongue are different things I think. Sounds like this is indeed flutter-tongue though.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/CfsisBcoL5M?t=57 (he plays the growling very badly though ;) it can sound better)",
"Wow!! Really cold dirty!!!",
"She looks so bored, too. And the earbuds are cracking me up. Is she on a call or actually listening to a different song?",
"Is there a word for the \"distortion\" effect she gives some notes? That's probably a terrible word for it, I just don't know how else to to describe it. I've never heard it on a clarinet before, at least knowingly. I usually associate that with trumpet, I think. Very impressive.",
"man the fact that sheet music can tell 2 strangers who've never met exactly how to play something they each made or thought of is truly remarkable.",
"She is. I get so excited when I hear clarinet music in the French Quarter, because there’s a good chance it’s Doreen. She’s amazing!",
"I've never heard a clarinet growl before. It's great",
"If you’ve been to NOLA then you’ve probably encountered this special human. She’s INCREDIBLY talented and super friendly to chat with!! Glad shes getting recognized on Reddit.",
"I didn’t know who Doreen Kitchens is until this comment. Just got back from an hour-long Doreen Kitchens bender and I am now a better person because of it. Thank you!",
"I imagine it's also for the adrenaline rush.",
"Tell her to go today pls",
"Holy shit that is awesome",
"There's a certain segment of the population who treat street performers the same as panhandlers, ignoring them or treating them like a nuisance. As a player myself, I always try to give them some attention at the very least and a toss a couple of bucks if I can. Especially when they're actually good.",
"[bty the video is this](https://youtu.be/0srzSEPeHrk)",
"HOT BOB!",
"If we are broadening horizons... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vL1uAXn7s&t=0",
"The video is from George Collier, someone who transcribes jazz music in videos. He always credits the original performer and links the original video in the description of his videos if he can.",
"And then starts singing on the next fucking bar, what a legend",
"This is real musicianship and someone that should be famous for music. not the bullshit we see on TV and hear on the radio. \n\n\nWhen she dropped the clarinet, i thought, oh shit, is she about to sing too? most folks get one or the other as a talent, this woman can do it all. Super impressed.",
"I thought it was amazing, then she started singing and I legit said “oh shit!” out loud 😂",
"squidward is crying right now.",
"Let me tell you … as a musician I’ve had the absolute privilege of performing at Jazz Fest in NOLA 3 times. The lvl of musicianship in that city is beyond compare. Not to mention the international contingency that blows your mind every day. I’ve had to perform after groups that should’ve caused out the whole day and felt like “ why bother? That was insane. What do they need me for?!” Absolutely awesome!😎👍😁",
"I shop at that Rouses all the time and it is an absolute honor to be able to hear her while makin groceries",
"I think it must be really nice to see up close how happy you can make people with your talent.",
"Loved this so much.",
"Oh my god, this gave me chills! She’s phenomenal. \n\nMakes me miss playing the clarinet. Though I could never be that good!",
"Clarinet is underrated. So melancholy and soulful.",
"If this didn’t make your face scrunch up, you gotta get your ears checked.",
"So talented",
"Oh they were my exception for saxes. They were basically tuba players haha",
"Just dropping by to hopefully introduce you to the unreal Hüsnü Şenlendirici. Just listen to anything he ever played.",
"I'm a jazz fan, but don't have much of a head for the technical end of things. How does Pete Fountain rank with those two?",
"Damn near impossible to walk around NOLA without running into absolute legends",
"The chorus? What is the chorus of House of the Rising Sun? It doesn't have that kind of structure. \n\nIt's the opening line, it's probably the most recognizable bit of the song, as far as lyrics go.",
"That growl is so clean! In all the years I played bass clarinet & tenor sax, I could never get the growl down. Always makes me a appreciate a good one",
"What a phenomenal musician; really the whole group is excellent. I love hearing someone sing so freely, yet in perfect pitch.",
"That’s fucking dirty and amazing",
"The note transitions!!! Damn, thats dirty!",
"This has to be New Orleans - that little city is the epicentre of incredible musicians, at least in the US.\n\nIn all the cities I've been to in the States specifically, the level of talent in the buskers is unparalleled.",
"I love this person!",
"I saw her when I visited NOLA a few years ago! My mom saw her like 10 years earlier while also visiting. She's amazing.",
"gawdamn son!",
"Man she makes that thing SING",
"Ive seen them play in New Orleans. They brought the whole street to a stand still. It was like magic. Amazing performers.",
"Yeah, this is the verse melody.",
"Imma need a roll of toilet paper after this.",
"Don't mean to be the hyper pedant who corrects the super pedantic guy, but most sousaphone players (especially in the context of jazz / New Orleans brass band) refer to their own instrument as a tuba. Yes, we all know itse proper name is \"sousaphone,\" but we all still say \"tuba\" anyway.",
"Good lord.\n\nThat woman is Ella Fitzgerald on the clarinet.",
"And who can forget BRODYQUEST",
"Her [YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjICXsF-fT27gB2997hOpgQ/videos) actually has a few instructional videos where she explains how she does her magic.",
"She does play for the New Orleans Philharmonic and others. She just likes to play for people.",
"This isn’t a solo",
"That’s what I noticed too! It looks like they’re able to do this while barely even trying. The girl playing drums looks totally bored the whole time. \n\nI can’t imagine how much heat these guys would bring to a sold out stadium show or a funeral for someone they love.\n\nIm extremely impressed.",
"I know, I grew up in Louisiana with a dad who owned/played both.\n\nHe also happened to be a dickhead about specificity so I guess the distinction is ingrained in me now? \n\nGuess he wins the pedant competition lol",
"God damn",
"It almost makes it sound like a brass instrument, and in the best way possible.",
"It's kinda nuts that nobody knows who wrote this song. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_the_Rising_Sun",
"I'm a fan of [this guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXeCcWVDyhU).",
"It took half a second to realize where she was",
"House of the rising sun?",
"I tried to pick up circular breathing while playing sax in high school. It is extremely difficult to learn. I had tremendous breath control from being a swimmer but to be able to time things when also trying to manipulate the air flowing across the reed was impossible for me to work out. I put the sax down after high school and did not pick it up for roughly 15 years. Unfortunately this did not last as health and work took over my life. I hope to be able to play again in the future as music is so good for my soul.\n\nAt least I can hear the likes of Doreen Ketchens any time if the day. I was lucky enough to catch her street performance the one time I was in New Orleans. This was circa '98 so I did not know who she was but fell in love with her style and energy immediately. She is also one of the most humble people I have ever had the pleasure to meet.",
"George Collier doing the transcribing...as in Jacob Collier's dad or something??",
"What you call liquor store we call a grocery store.",
"Doreen Ketchens, the clarinet queen!",
"I think that’s her hubbie",
"I’m pretty sure she teaches a LSU as well",
"George Collier doesnt have perfect pitch either",
"Wow just wow",
"Squidward would like to know you location*",
"Clarinet go brrrr",
"I keep getting these videos recommended too",
"New Orleans is the greatest city on the planet",
"Playing Mafia 3 currently and so that may have helped, also shes playing the house of the rising sun. Hard to think anything BUT NOLA.",
"I've seen this multiple times and always think that had I seen it in 5th grade, maybe I wouldn't have given up on the clarinet so quickly... but this video isn't nearly that old.",
"damnit, you got me joseph.",
"Break out that sax, man.",
"that was some good shit",
"probably like 4 or 5",
"It’s about blowing the reed hard enough for it to sound crunchy but not too hard that you can’t control the pitch and it squeaks. You have to have a really solid control of your embouchure",
"Clarinet growl makes me purr",
"I see we roll in the same YT recommendation circles.",
"Well she's awful and made my day worse.",
"Unbelievable. Thanks for sharing!",
"I know it has a reputation as solely a drunken embarassing town for frat boys and old alcoholics to puke all over the streets, but new orleans is one of the greatest cities in the world for shit like this.\n\nThere will be dozens of street performers that can easily outshine any classically trained orchestra musician on a random tuesday afternoon. The average tiny hole in the wall will be greasy, dirty, probably full of rats, and have food that Michelin chefs wish they could replicate. It really is a magical place.",
"Check out some trombone shorty videos, another new orleans product.\n\nThe guys at the cathedral are great, trombone shorty will also blow your mind",
"Here she is playing with the Louisiana Philharmonic. Could be the best performance I’ve ever seen! Breathtaking!\nhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=EC8_zcGEZjc&feature=share",
"I want her at my birthday party lol",
"Ugh chefs kiss",
"Absolutely glorious",
"So nice",
"The daughter looks a little bored on the drums, but other than that they all seem to be having a good time to me haha",
"Yeah I really appreciated that too! She has two modes: not playing the clarinet, and PLAYING the fucking clarinet",
"Fuck. That woman is a boss.",
"I can’t be the only that hears the melody of House of the Rising Sun, right?",
"whats her name?",
"Okay, reality check. I'm in the UK. We have nothing; I mean nothing that can match street play at this level. First off, most people in the UK are prude and would shy away from listening to it in the street. There are exceptions and some highly talented people. But this is mesmerising stuff which you can guarantee would be different the next time round. I've just put New Orleans on my bucket list so I can see this in person one day or maybe something similar. \n\nPlus, Kudos to Doreen and the band. That is some extreme musicing right there. Anything that leaves me with a smile on my face is a happy moment in my book.",
"She slaps man. Saw her live. They had an entire street of people enraptured.",
"'Rolling' your tongue can also produce a growl like technique too.",
"I'd find the closest bar patio and clear my schedule for the day",
"thanks for the link i was about to ask who is she",
"Never understand how talent like this never hits the radio ..but some shit like watermelon sugar high is played 40+ times a day",
"Pls explain? Who is George?",
"That gave me the chills",
"Jacob Colliers Dad believe. Jacob is like a. Jazz prodigy, check him out.",
"*has a full convo with drummer, who also doesn't miss a beat*",
"happy cake day!",
"George Gershwin would like a word",
"*smiles in Chad Wackerman, Neal Peart, Mickey Hart and Phil Kreutzman, Tito Puente and Jimmy Carl Black*",
"I see, thanks! Any time I learn stuff like this I just get really grateful that I’m a vocalist, so many instruments sound so difficult",
"Anchors and texture, thank you! I was struggling to put that into context before my morning coffee.",
"I've never even been to the south, but hearing all this praise has got me choosing my next travel destination this spring. \n\nIs it a pretty regular thing to just go out on the streets there and hear jazz like this? That sounds too good to be true",
"Rush sucks! And that is my own stupid based opinion.",
"She's awesome. Before I knew that she was moderately famous I saw her performing on the streets of New Orleans. Shes insanely talented.",
"Fun fact: that line in the song was removed from the movie as it lined up perfectly to Dan Ackroyd's character, Ray, consummating a certain supernatural on-screen interaction. 🤓",
"This whole album is killer, Buddy Guy and Junior Wells taking turns playing and singing.\n\nhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_meL23-wWqaL57psw4klAFs5DLuuIgd6Bw\n\nThis one is one of my favorites, Mississippi John Hurt\n\nhttps://youtu.be/qC18_XEAe2o\n\nHere's Lead Belly with a standard, very good song, a few famous rock guys covered it including Nirvana\n\nhttps://youtu.be/PsfcUZBMSSg\n\nCan't forget Skip James, here with an interesting history intro. Whats interesting about Skip James is he did not play in standard tuning, instead he largely played in a tuning similar to minor D crossnote.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/mYALBzfY5QY",
"You're welcome! I had already had my coffee hahaha",
"Okay, fine. I guess I was the only one who didn't know who she was, read the title, saw the thumbnail and came here thinking she was gonna shit herself playing.",
"I almost always drop a buck or two (or Euro's, when I am abroad) into every busker's tip... But damn... She'd get a 10 or a 20 for that amazing bit of work!",
"Queen Dorreen is getting her well deserved recognition",
"New Orleans vibes",
"Really? I don’t actually know anything about jazz other than hearing it live a lot and enjoying it. I thought the trombone player was very… amateurish. I assumed it was her son and he’s only been playing a short while.",
"[Here's her video on it :)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHrws9QbMY&t=229s)",
"I think the drummer is her daughter too. She started drumming for her band at age 9 or something lol",
"Me Ketchins is a NOLA gem!",
"Dorothy Ketchins!",
"I played clarinet for nearly a decade and cannot even begin to fathom that level of skill and talent. Pressing fingers in the right place is easy enough but I'm sitting here wondering how tf do you make a clarinet growl like that and not just squeak? My mouth hurts just thinking about this.",
"You are correct, actually, the trombone player has a decent tone at first, but it seemed like he was trying too hard to match the clarinet's prowess without having the actual skill required.",
"I checked out her wiki and apparently the people playing the sousaphone and drums are her husband and daughter",
"It’s like saying you find it sad that NBA players play pickup basketball in the offseason. \n\nShe goes on tour, releases albums, has gigs at actual clubs, etc. I think it’s part of the culture in New Orleans",
"Thank you.",
"It’s a folk song, there is no “original” version. And because I googled it just now to make sure I wasn’t talking out my ass about it, TIL in the earliest record of the lyrics it isn’t even about a boy (“been the ruin of many a poor girl”, apparently).",
"My wife works in a shop on the same corner and gets to listen to Ms. Doreen every day.",
"Thank you!! I loved that so much. What an amazing cover and that damn clarinet is beautiful sounding.",
">this level of performing is just another Tuesday afternoon for her, \n\nCan confirm. This lady is amazing and my wife is very lucky to work in the shop just behind the person holding the camera and gets to hear her everyday. It's a travesty that this woman doesn't have a standing gig in a club, but she makes more money busking on Royal than she would headlining in a club.\n\nAlso, about that cell thing, she does have school aged children and is out there working while they are in school. Her kids perform with her occasionally on the weekends or during school breaks.",
"You can buy her music [here.](https://shopforeverneworleans.com/product/a-new-orleans-christmas-cd/)",
"Agree completely. I discovered her after I saw [a mind-blowing clip of her](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/k3seyn/clarinetist_doreen_ketchens_performing_when_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) a year ago... I was so impressed I posted it on r/nextfuckinglevel.\n\nNever knew what circular breathing was before this.\n\nShe is absolutely legendary.",
"So cool! Wanted to search and find out how to do that clarinet growl and the first video that pops up is of her!!",
"Wow she is crazy good!",
"Clarinet. Dirty.",
"That's the best thing I've ever heard (and seen) done with a clarinet.",
"Jesus Christ the devil has possessed this woman, and it sounds ... fucking amazing.",
"I've seen her live! She can really toot that horn!",
"Marked",
"sounds like my morning BM ha ha",
"Fuck, I need to get back to New Orleans. Haven't been there since before Katrina.",
"That tracks",
"New Orleans, man. My hometown. Some of the most gifted artists doing what they love for the love of doing it. The “traditionally famous” are not famous in New Orleans. Legends like these get ALL the respect! \n\nI moved away after the hurricane. Got married and had a couple of kids. Brought them to the French quarter some years ago and they were amazed at the music. They literally SAT DOWN outside the French Market and listened to a brass band for half an hour. 4 kids under the age of 10. They were mesmerized. It was sweet to see what New Orleans can do to your soul.",
"The way she can make that thing growl sends shivers down my spine. \n\nI love it ♥",
"This is who Squidward thinks he is.",
"Wow.",
"My dad played the Clarinet, and I know that he’d be in awe of her, right now.",
"Oh how I love New Orleans.",
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"I see her in new Orleans all the time and she and her family is dope.",
"Good lord. Have never heard a clarinet like that.",
"DAMN!",
"My high-school band teacher told us a \"secret.\" Blowing bubbles through a straw and a glass of water. Just try to not stop blowing bubbles. Eventually, after a week of doing it something clicked.",
"House of the rising sun. Greasy.",
"Only if squidward could play like her",
"How do you do that on clarinet what the hell.\n\nTeach me doreen!",
"Drummer is just trying to listen to her podcast",
"That's how I first discovered Doreen. Just walking through the French Quarter sipping a daquiri. One of the only times in my life my jaw has involuntarily dropped completely open. I stood there stunned for about 30 minutes.",
"Anyone I've ever heard play it sucked haha. So from my own personal experience hes good",
"I think this is her best rendition of that song i can find online. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZlQJmVyx8\n\nThe second solo is crazy good.",
"Filthy!",
"If you haven seen this recording of her playing the same song its worth seeing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZlQJmVyx8",
"That's generally true for most folk songs",
"I thought it was St James Infirmary, until I didn’t think it was.",
"Thanks for sharing this. This video did it for me. I’ve never seen someone play clarinet like this before. She has a complete style of her own and it’s fantastic. Thanks",
"This made me regret not sticking with the Clarinet from Grade school",
"Just watched a bunch of clips with her playing. Every performance is like a well deserved flex, she’s dynamite.",
"> I'm saying this to reinforce that this level of performing is just another Tuesday afternoon for her, requiring no real extra focus or concentration.\n\nWhen you're this good you don't need to try.",
"[Average alumni of SCC](https://youtu.be/ldRqaysox5w)",
"This sounds like the house of the rising sun by the animals",
"I kind of wish I was there live, so I could hear it in complete clarity and not from a phone speaker.",
">Just try to not stop blowing bubbles.\n\nSo trying to breath through my nose while not stop blowing bubbles. \n\nI need to pick up a metal straw. \n\nThank you for the tip!",
"Whoa. Awesome!",
"Closes her eyes the entire time proving that the conductor is completely useless. /s\n\n(That was bomb)",
"DOREEN KETCHENS",
"Awesome, thanks for sharing!",
"Same for me. I'm a \"jaded professional musician\" and this performance made me absolutely break down in tears. I haven't heard such sincere and inspiring musicianship in such a long time. This is exactly what I needed to hear today.",
"Amazing, just unbelievable. Makes me want to visit NOLA now.",
"She is spanking the shit out of that clarinet! Stunning talent.",
"It seemed like she got a standing ovation *before* the performance too. \n\nI liked when the conductor made a point of saying that it was his and the orchestra's *distinct honor* of just sharing the stage with her. To me, that really drove home how immensely respected she is by other top tier musicians.",
"OMG thank you for this link, just WTF WHOA blown away here...",
"That's awesome, she practically gets a standing ovation BEFORE she even starts playing.",
"Imagine being that fanny pack.",
"Oh my god what a gem of a human being. So good",
"Drummer looks super happy to be there",
"somewhere squidward is sperming hard",
"Echoing others here. \n\nI don't know a ton about music but that is one of the greatest musical performances I have ever seen. This is the one of the very few times I've ever been close to tears from an instrumental performance. Wow.",
"Wow, thank you for the link!",
"Holy fucking shitballs, I think I came!\n\nCOBWEBS EVERYWHERE\n\nseriously amazeballs talent",
"normally the clarinet is my least favorite instrument. But this right here... masterful.",
"It's a grocery store baw",
"You haven’t listened to Greek clarinet to feel the art.",
"I do like seeing the music too though.",
"As a former Clarinet player (middle school and high school). Holy shit.",
"She's squeezing her body like a bagpipe and breathing in, that's pushing air out, and letting her refill, it hurts sometimes but i was able to pull it off in school as a sax player too, also put that down and haven't picked it up since. Thought a clarinet seems tempting, much smaller and less expensive and same fingerings.",
"Dunno why you were downvoted (just once)... “Frisson” is basically chills from music. And i totally got it from this lady!",
"That trombone tho. God damn!",
"amazing, thank you for sharing!",
"praise Doreen Ketchens! She is amazing!!",
"The real question is.... Is she singing a cover song? Or, a cover of a cover?",
"I am not even close to a jaded music pro, I had no idea what was even going on when tears started to drop from my eyes after she began to really start playing. \n\nI didnt know music could DO that. This woman is a national treasure.",
"> Yeah George and Jacob are unrelated\n\nWait... but they're the same... wait... George? oh my god...\n\n**I THOUGHT IT WAS JACOB ALL ALONG** \n\nI'd been watching every one of his videos thinking how amazing it was that he was taking the time to notate other people's incredible music from around the world. I mean, it still is awesome, but I just thought it was the same guy! I'd been watching George/Jacob collier videos intertwined for a year - it certainly doesn't help that George collier posts Jacob collier videos!",
"Dude holy fuck. That second solo was beyond me. As a clarinet player of 13 years she is incredible. Jazz and improvisation is one of the hardest things to play hands down.",
"TOO MANY ZOOZ needs some Clarinet!",
"I don't doubt there are a number of awesome performers, but *this* does seem pretty singular to me.",
"Well now I'm blubbering. Absolutely transcendent performance.",
"I didn’t think I like clarinet but that was amazing. I’m a fan",
"they're just all drummers. and if you don't like Rush, you'll hate [this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jm4LoOaAWI)",
"Why is the person in this video like at least 130lbs smaller than the person in OP video?",
"I have to admit, that was pretty fantastic",
"It's House of the Rising Sun.",
"Absolutely. It took me two listens to be able to fit the words to it in my mind, but that's it.",
"Thanks! I've seen the one OP posted _heaps_ in the past week or so. I didn't realise there was a longer version.",
"huh, every CD from her is sold out in my country. Which CD is the best one to buy, if you're not from New Orleans or the US?",
"Awesome. Reminds me a bit of Klezmer.",
"Yes, there is definitely some connection there. Both are influenced by arabic and turkish makam tradition, so they have similar roots although they probably developed independently.",
"Play your sax, bud. Play it badly and enjoy the hell out of it.",
"Do you do something to the reed to get that dirty sound or is it all just straight up technique?",
"I literally didn't know that clarinets could scream like that, amazing",
"I didn't even know it was possible to play a clarinet like that. What an adorable lady! She seems so humble.",
"Hoping you see this a few days later - can Doreen be found online anywhere? Would love to give her some views, and buy her music if possible.",
"The music is the only redeeming quality of the city imo. I’m a local and I work in the Quarter"
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"How the fuck did they get satellite images from the 1800s?",
"They have them orbit in the opposite direction.",
"very carefully",
"Dad?",
"Son?",
"I’ve missed you. Everyone said you left, but I knew you’d be back!",
"Yes! It is I, your papa! Your father! Come give daddy a hug son, oh how I’ve missed you ever since I left to get cigarettes that day! Say son, your daddy has fallen on some hard times lately, can you perhaps spare a dime?",
"Pls, aspiring youtubers, invest in a decent mic and some sound absorbing foam pads.",
"In ten years time we as a global civilization have developed enough for the average Joe to have almost the entirety of human understanding and entertainment accessible and hidden away in his pocket. Even twenty years ago almost all televised material/videos/programming is localized with zero option on what shows on any one channel of media, only when to view said channel. \n\n\nDespite these practically infinite choices, average Joe still prefers to critique the proverbial \"needle in the haystack\" over something as, temporally speaking, trivial as sound quality. \n\n\nYou are a wild man spawned from wild times, Joe.",
"When US leadership didn’t give a fuck either way.",
"Damn I had no idea about that lake. Driving through the Central Valley is really sad because it’s a slow moving environmental tragedy/catastrophe.",
"They dont even need the sound absorbing foam pads, the problem is they have literally no decorations for funiture in these rooms apart from their computers.\nEven just putting up pictures and having furniture will throw your voice around.",
"Yeah, I live in Fresno and am in the process of moving away. The droughts just make the wildfire season worse and worse every year.",
"Yeah it’s getting really bad and unfortunately it’s only going to get worse",
"oh wow, did not realize the environmental conditions have degraded just that much there. I understand more the push to end all farming in that valley",
"For sure. At this point though, it's like where do you go? There are annual wildfires along the west coast, tornados in the midwest, flooding along the gulf coast, hurricanes through the southeast, and the polar vortex along the east coast. Hardly seems like you can find a region not getting fucked by climate change these days. Denver maybe? Idk.",
"Allegedly the upper Midwest like Minnesota/Wisconsin will be the most hospitable area when the climate change shit really hits the fan",
"During very wet seasons, Tulare Lake will flow back into the area but this hasnt happened since the late 90s. Dams built in nearby towns have essentially made the lake extinct. I drove through this area fairly regularly for work a couple years ago on my way down to Los Angeles from Lemoore and there's tons and tons of farmland out there now. Huell Howser, known for his Californian based PBS show - \"California's Gold\" did a segment on this which is [archived here](https://blogs.chapman.edu/huell-howser-archives/1999/01/08/things-that-come-back-californias-gold-1005/). That segment starts about halfway in.",
"That makes sense. What a time to be alive.",
"Just like the Aral sea, then? Fourth largest lake in the world, gone in the space of a few decades. All for the sake of crop irrigation in the then-USSR, just like here.",
"Yeah I live in Michigan and I can say while I have noticed more mild winters over the last few years overall things are okay-ish.\n\nNot like things aren't changing but we aren't getting as screwed over as other parts of the US seem to be getting.",
"They still don't.",
"For anyone wanting to learn more about the history of Tulare lake and the Central Valley Project that sealed its fate, as well as the general history of water development in the West, I highly recommend Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner and The Dreamt Land by Mark Arax.\n\nThese are fascinating and frustrating stories of greed and power broking and of a time in America where we viewed natural resources as something purely there for complete exploitation (i.e. before modern conservation movement and environmental/ecological concerns).",
"its",
"Jesus, the voice makes this video unwatchable",
"Alaska is the new California",
"I'm thinking of Eureka, CA. Still far enough south to have pretty [mild weather](https://i.imgur.com/H0a79qR.jpg), far enough north of the Bay area to have cheap cost of living, and being on the coast all the smoke from the wildfires would probably be less of an issue.",
"I would make a joke about how that sounds great on paper until you go and see what Eureka is actually like, but if you're coming from Fresno... at least you're getting away from Jerry Dyer?",
"> at least you're getting away from Jerry Dyer?\n\nYeah, exactly. Dude is taking a bunch of the city's covid relief money and investing it in local cops, as if this place could be any more of a police state.\n\nGoing from a city of 500,000 to one of 50,000 doesn't really matter to me much. As long as I've got fast internet, I don't need an H&M next door.",
"Taught to us by superman, of course.",
"They were steam powered satellites",
"😳 I knew it was possible",
"That isn't satellite imagery, it's from a camera connected to a really big balloon.",
"apostate",
"Water. Our most precious resource. Without it, we're damned...",
"There are going to be plenty of good places to live in North America. Sure there will be more extreme weather but in general growing seasons are going to get longer. South America I'm not so sure but with human ingenuity and nuclear power I think we can solve the problem.",
"Must have been a hell of a birthday party.",
"In capitalism, the environment and the future are never calculated in the cost.\nOften, what is cheap now is being financed by the environment or future generations.",
"It was a 1800s gender reveal party balloon. It was either filled with blue dust for a girl or pink dust for a boy.",
"Yeah I’ll I have noticed outside of the norm is it been a bit wetter on average and some freak windstorms.",
"It's crazy how much of California has been ecologically destroyed because of greedy people continuously diverting water. Los Angelos demanding a larger water supply also kinda destroyed Owens Lake and Mono Lake from what I've read.",
"Commies did the exact same thing on an even larger scale with the Aral Sea and China is fucking up the Yangtze and Yellow River in similar fashion. \n\nIt's not capitalism, it's human nature to think short term rather than long term.",
"Calvin's dad up in here.",
"The US also erased the largest waterfall on the face of the planet",
"For cheap, I recommend a RODE NTUSB and for cheap sound absorbing just a box lined with blankets and pillows that you have your mic in will do wonders for your audio",
"> Sure there will be more extreme weather\n\nBut that's the thing, I'm trying to *get away from* the extreme weather.",
"It's not from a satellite, it's a photo of a mirror placed 100 light years away",
"Which waterfall was this? I can’t figure out which.",
"6th largest, my bad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celilo_Falls#Main_waterfall\n\nWorse though is that along with the falls, a 15,000 year old native trading post was also submerged in water",
"**Celilo Falls** \n \n [Main waterfall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celilo_Falls#Main_waterfall) \n \n >The main waterfall, known variously as Celilo Falls, The Chutes, Great Falls, or Columbia Falls, consisted of three sections: a cataract, called Horseshoe Falls or Tumwater Falls; a deep eddy, the Cul-de-Sac; and the main channel. These features were formed by the Columbia River's relentless push through basalt narrows on the final leg of its journey to the Pacific Ocean. Frequently more than a mile (1. 6 km) in width, the river was squeezed here into a width of only 140 feet (43 m).\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"So the net result is we don't farm there anymore. K.",
"im in the same boat\n\ni tried to live in san diego, couldnt afford it\n\nnow im thinking about eureka too, or somewhere there\n\ni hear its full of tweakers and hippies and what not, good thing im a hippie :D",
"it is capitalism because we are under a capitalist system\n\nwhich pushes corporations that only focus on shareholders instead of stakeholders\n\nwhen your sole job and purpose of existing as ceo \"maximizing shareholder values\" and if you dont do good job as the next comparable companies ceo, you get the boot, so its dog eat dog world that was created by the system we have\n\n\ni know americans are still brainwashed by the redscare and sensitive to words like socialism, when you have the worlds largest \"social\" security system and billionaires get bailouts, aka socialism",
"not as bad as that fucking dipshit reallifelore and others\n\nhe... pronounces... every.... worrrrrdd... likkeee... thiisss....",
"Its *surreal* that we have a fire season...",
"That's real. I used to live in LA, but going back to visit it seems like the tent cities have really gotten out of control. I bet it's the same in San Diego.",
"Right?! Like growing up in the central valley, the Summer has always sucked. But hey, it's a desert. That's kind of normal. Having 3-4 months of 100+ degree weather ***and*** a blanket of apocalyptic smoke every year though? Yeah fuck that, I'm leaving.",
"Yep exactly",
"Did the Soviets live under a capitalist system when they erased one of the largest lakes in the world?",
"Wait till you find out what your phone's made of and how they get that",
"Lmao expansion and growth isn't limited only to capitalism.",
"It's cotton irrigation in both cases.",
"yeah dude, i couldnt believe what i was seeing in la, just blocks and blocks and blocks of tents\n\nsan diego isnt so bad, except this one area in downtown where the police wont hassle you, where alot of street people hangout\n\ni had to live in my car for a bit during the pandemic, \n\nwhat made you pick eureka?",
"i thought we were talking about this lake\n\nnot retarded whataboutism illogic\n\nlay off the fox news snuff, that shit will kill you, it'll make you racist, they cherry pick data to keep the poor fighting over scraps while the rich eat caviar, same with any of the news/media owned by those cocksucking 6 billionaires",
"Mostly just cheap rent and nice weather. Apartment prices are getting crazy in Fresno right now. Loads of people moved here from Sacramento and the Bay during the pandemic because they could work from home and the rent here *was* super cheap.",
"Not moving that slow",
"What you're saying legitimately doesn't parse.\n\nYou're claiming capitalism is the cause for environmental destruction. However, your failed communist state partook in these exact same actions, clearly disproving your argument.\n\nThis is not whataboutism. This is explaining a clear failure of A -> B logic in your claim.\n\nIt's clear this is your pet cause that you are caught up in lately, but you need to slow down and think about what you are saying.",
"Add The King of California by Arax and Wartzman to that list",
"debating with your retarded logic is like playing a chess with a pigeon\n\nits gonna make move or two but still gonna shit on the board and throw the pieces everywhere and strut around",
"isnt it like 3 months of 105 degrees in fresno?\n\nthats my main reason as well, mild weather and a place i can afford to rent, you know if its windy as fuck in eureka? i used to live in salem or, that place by the sea was so fucking wild with often 70mph winds lol, by the coast in newport, i gotta live by the coast :D",
"Australia's largest river is also devestated thanks to cotton farming (and other agricultur) sucking it dry.",
"Save the \"zingers\" you read on reddit, and just actually think about the things you say.\n\nFeel free to take the last word, but after you do, think critically about how you've argued here today, and what you might do better in the future if you want to successfully change minds.",
"Are you actually this unaware of how flawed your own logic is, or are you just trolling, man?",
">retarded\n\nListen Trump, we don't use this word anymore",
"In fact aren't green movements strongest in liberal (capitalist) democracies? I think so",
"jesus you are slow\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism",
"lmao you fucking idiots\n\nwere you home schooled?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism",
"I maintain there is a \"curse on cotton\". There has been mind-boggling destruction of life, liberty and environment in the furtherance of cotton production. \n\nWe can go to a thrift store and get a pair of jeans for 2-10 USD or buy new jeans, signifying the waste of ~1000 gallons of water, environmental damage and possibly imposing slave-like working conditions on someone. This is my please-buy-used-cotton public service announcement.",
"It's not whataboutism when your point is specifically about capitalism. Other regimes suffer from the same issues capitalism does, in this case, destruction of environment, and prioritizing short term gains while ignoring long-term losses. You can say that without talking about other countries, though it's obvious that when people talk about communism it could be applied to China or the Soviet Union. But the same is true for Socialism, too. \n\nIt's not specifically the economic system that promotes it; it's greed and short-sightedness in humans in general.\n\nBy the way, you can always tell when someone is no longer able to defend their point when they have to resort to attacks on their opponents, rather than on their opponents' points, lol.",
"lets compare college degrees, i have 2\n\none of my degree is ranked #1 in the field",
"That's nice. What's your point? I have two degrees as well, but that doesn't make me an expert on global and national policy or ecology. Do your degrees make you an expert? If so, your alumni should be ashamed of you, because you're not representing your institutions (or your point) very strongly at all. \n\nComputer science here. I'm a scientist (more like a mathematician most days), not an economist. But I can at least be aware of the world around me without having to have a degree in it. I've been alive for over 40 years now, and that's enough time to see the impact that humanity has had on its environment in multiple places around the world, each being populated by people living in different economic systems. In science, we're taught to observe what can be observed, and only make consideration for conclusions when the results speak for themselves. \n\nWhere do your conclusions come from? They sure as hell don't come from human history, or ecological history, for that matter.",
"Artist renditions much like \"satellite\" pics of Pangea",
"i did finance and accounting dumb fuck at uiuc",
"I've never heard of \"finance and accounting dumb fuck\" as a discipline, but I suppose they'll give degrees for anything, won't they?\n\nAnd how do your degrees make you an expert in anthropogenic ecological destruction, pray tell? I can see how it might give you some insight into how economic systems work, but does it give you an understanding of the human psychology behind man's destruction of the environment, and how it relates to economics and socioeconomic systems?",
"We’re fucked",
"Finance and accounting, yet you live in your car? Seems like you weren't any good at it, lol.",
"I'm down for hippies, but any time I've passed through eureka it's just made me sad.",
"yeah i saw pictures and supposedly pretty dead social scenery if you are young, and you gotta drive a ways to get to nearest spot, which. means no drinking :(",
"well ignorant person like you probably never heard of \"vow of poverty\"\n\ni get job offers in big4 and advisory firms to be a slave for 100k+\n\ncouz all my classmates work for the big 4 and the big 8 in chi/ny\n\nuiuc accounting is ranked #1 if you didnt know,",
"Sincerely, seek help and take your meds.",
"whats your education? jail?"
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When the US erased it's 9th largest lake
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"My kind of fire place christmas video. Guess who's playing this on the 24th.",
"LMFAO",
"This is the best thing I've seen in a long time.",
"Genius.",
"Jesus, Internet.... This is too much.",
"*Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals*",
"Superb work my good sir",
"Thank you for sharing this, ya filthy animal. 😉",
"God this is so dumb but I like it haha",
"Expected to hear a low screaming happening behind the music",
"would deserve it to after what he did to Sinead O'Conner",
"epico",
"[Joe Pesci also has a christmas songt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawOAtZcW9o)",
"So much childhood memories",
"someone found an easy way to barbecue",
"definitely",
"*\"Chestnuts roasting on a head on fire\"*",
"Wish there would be a bit of him screaming at random parts."
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rjmxuw/deleted_by_user/
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"Good luck Mashka!",
"I would've gladly seen the entire sketches, demoreels are maybe more aimed at people who have to scroll thru dozens of them and need compressed clips.",
"i hope you accomplish your dreams!",
"I thought she did an excellent job handing over the room service bill. Totally believed she was an actual room attendant.\n\nAlso, thank you for sharing this Mashka.",
"This is kind of minor but the 1st sound effect at like 6 seconds seems to come too early then it's all I can think about for the rest of the video. It doesn't help that a similar or same sound effect is used for every change so it keeps reminding me.\n\nOpening with an off rythym thing like that could leave a bad taste maybe even without the person be away of why.\n\nAlso at about 0:55 it's weird because she might have \"spiked\" the camera, or oddly was trying hard to not spike the camera. It's a millisecond and maybe the biggest of smallest things; but I believe that spiking the camera is one thing that could really damage you with casting especially if you are looking for background work like she seems to. It's so short I might even be wrong.\n\n\nReally great selection though, and I love how it shows different styles.\n\n(For those who don't know \"spiking\" the camera is when someone looks directly in the camera. It's highly disliked by many in the industry except for rare cases like in The Office when Jim does that look at camera thing, it stands out because of how rare it is to happen).",
"mashka crushin it!",
"Mashka! Mashka! Mashka!",
"[ **Jump to 00:55 @** Mashka Wolfe Comedy Reel 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg4rJim3wgU&t=0h0m55s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Mashka Wolfe, Video Length: [01:48])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg4rJim3wgU&t=0h0m50s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"The only thing on your IMDb page that made me laugh was the line \"Mashka is fluent in both Russian and English, speaking without an accent in both languages.\"",
"It’s the part I was born to play!\n\nIt was actually my first ever speaking role on a TV show so it will always have a special place in my heart. \n\n-Mashka",
"Thank you, and thank you so much for watching. It’s been a tough year, but honestly a nice comment means a lot.",
"Why is that funny? Serious question! Also thank you for checking out my IMDB page!\n-Mashka",
"Dude, she does NOT need to feel terrified. This is genuinely good. She is very expressive. I do get the \"spiking\" comment or \"breaking the 4th wall\". That choice is really on direction not the subject in frame. 5 seconds in I already felt this was taken from Parks and Rec. \n\nKeep going Mashka! Fear and doubt can be natural but if you don't feel any of that when it's your turn and you just \"know\" what to do, that's when pressure turns into energy and focus.",
"Because you speak both languages with an accent, you speak English with an American accent, and Russian with a Russian accent. That's what accents are. I understand what you MEAN by the statement, but it is still funny to me when you read it.",
"Oh I get it! Yeah you’re right about that, I’m just not sure how else to say it and it’s the one kinda neat thing I can do",
"Thank you for this. I’ve been seriously considering quitting this year. It’s hard not to feel hopeless but everyone here is very nice and I don’t really know what to say except thank you.",
"\"... the one kinda neat thing I can do.\"\n\nOof, that sounds self-deprecating.",
"To elaborate: It's obvious even from that short video that you're an eloquent, attractive, clever person. You're already vastly ahead of most people on several fronts, and more envied than you might realize. The thing is, getting \"a big break\" in any creative medium is pretty much a shitshow, it's a lot of luck and timing and social networking and a million other factors that have nothing to do with your desire and talent. If you love doing it, keep doing it, but unless you have a deep soulsucking need for validation in THIS ONE PARTICULAR THING, maybe just work on being happy and successful in general?",
"At the beginning of the pandemic I was in a play on a National tour which got cut short because of the pandemic, and I lost the day job I really liked, and the executive producer on a project that I worked hard to produce stopped returning my calls. I know that other people have definitely experienced much worse in the past 2 years but it just feels like everything I worked hard for ended. And I do love acting even if I don’t get paid and I definitely want to keep doing it, but it’s one of those things where you have to wait for someone to cast you, and no one seems to want to do that anymore.",
"Not really looking for background work, at least not with a reel. You don’t need a reel for background work, if you live in LA you just have to register for Central Casting and you can get work, no experience necessary",
"Yeah, the last couple years were a dystopian nightmare a little bit, sorry to hear about your work being impacted. Try to put a positive spin on it, some of those millions of deaths were people who can't compete with you for gigs now =D",
"That’s the worst and best thing I’ve ever heard",
"Well, I am the most and least funny person I know, so that checks out."
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"Also first mukbang?",
"Determined or not. That cat must be long dead. \n\nThat’s kind of a downer.",
"I wonder how many generations of cats ago that was",
"enough with these fucking terrible AI colorizations!",
"probably none, I doubt most indoor cats get to reproduce. Could be up to something like 100 in an extreme case",
">!That cat is dead by now. :(!<",
"That is uncannilly modern looking",
"So is the girl and the old woman",
"Why is that a downer?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nTime passed, the cat and the family lived their lives. What's to be sad about? \n\n&#x200B;\n\nWhat's going on around us now is more a downer than the past.",
"What's 100?",
"**100 or one hundred (Roman numeral: C) is the natural number following 99 and preceding 101.\nIn medieval contexts, it may be described as the short hundred or five score in order to differentiate the English and Germanic use of \"hundred\" to describe the long hundred of six score or 120.**\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100> \n\n\n\n*This comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!*\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)",
"What's 60?",
"> how many generations",
"they were quoting the simpsons",
"There is something so beautiful to me about this video.\n\nEveryone in this video has long since passed; the old woman, the cat, and even the young girl. Their thoughts and emotions have been swept away by time. But in this video we get to share with them a moment of ordinary happiness. They themselves might not have even remembered it a week later. But here we sit, 115 years later, and we are allowed to bask in their joy. Joy that has been gone for a century now. We see the young girl share her food with a cat, wearing a smile all the way. We see the cat jump and hop, enjoying a simple treat. All these moments and feelings passed for them quickly. This simple moment has been preserved, and through it we are brought to the same smile the girl wore when a cat was just being a cat.",
"damn for real????",
"oh no",
"I think they'd probably remember being on camera.... in 1906",
"So is the person who developed the film :(",
"That's the thing about life... Every hundred years, all new people.",
"Yeah this one is particularly bad.\n\nThe original is way easier to watch and actually has more detail when things are moving https://youtu.be/sWD7mKd_6Ck\n\nJust stick it at 0.75 speed to get close to proper timing.",
"can you provide a link for that quote?",
"Color is actually very accurate. This film was documenting early cases of Schtroumpf Disease that was just breaking out in Toulouse toward the end of 1906.",
"https://www.google.com/search?q=Determined+or+not.+That+cat+must+be+long+dead.++That’s+kind+of+a+downer.",
"No. There’s somehow LESS detail and the colors are muddy and distracting. The speed adjustment is nice but doesn’t require AI.",
"\"colorized\"\n\nThey only smudged a tint of brown on the black and white film. Her dress was most probably red or something.",
"I agree",
"Nah, old ladies were green in the early 1900s, proof: Wizard of Oz",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rjnjxa/1906_film_shoot_turns_into_probably_the_worlds/hp63tjp/",
"Next up after the bowl of cereal, 40 Big Macs.",
"Did what we know as the \"indoor cat\" even exist in the early 1900s? Almost certainly not. Pretty sure this era well predates things like litter boxes, etc. It's likely that all cats back then were kept the same way that most country/rural folks keep their cats today, which is a mix of both indoor and outdoor, coming and going as they please.\n\nAlso, I seriously doubt that population control was on anyone's mind back then. Having a professional perform a successful surgery in order to spay/neuter a cat probably would have been prohibitively expensive.",
"Not true, those cats are the same.\n\nKeeping cats indoors all the time was not possible—nor was it even a goal—until several important 20th century innovations: refrigeration, kitty litter, and the prevalence of spaying and neutering.\n\nEven though these changes to our modern lifestyle make keeping cats inside possible, biologically, cats are the same as they were thousands of years ago. Their role in our society has evolved and broadened over the last hundred years, but their basic behaviors and needs haven’t changed.",
"Ah, redditors sure can complain about literally anything.",
"thank you",
"welcome to the world, where everyone has different opinions and notices different things!",
"Ya and some peoples opinions are “People use programs to add color to footage that I otherwise would never have seen and it makes me very angry” and that’s pretty stupid.",
"I’ve seen this footage before in its original black and white and this conversion makes it worse, which is why I have an opinion on it. \n\nHow worthwhile is it to have opinions on others’ opinions?",
"If anything it's a downer knowing this girl lives in 1906 France and has two very hard wars to live through in her near future that probably tore her family apart.",
"wtf is [Schtroumpf Disease](https://www.google.com/search?q=Schtroumpf+Disease+1906&client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=D_u_Yfj0Guar0PEPoJOXgAs&ved=0ahUKEwi4uIGluvH0AhXmFTQIHaDJBbAQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=Schtroumpf+Disease+1906&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BQghEKABOgUIIRCrAkoECEEYAEoECEYYAFDzA1izVmCtWWgLcAJ4AIAB_gGIAYIPkgEGMS4xMy4xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz)?",
"Yes.",
"This is essentially the aesthetic that Peter Jackson has begun chasing, and did so successfully in his Masterpiece, \"They Shall Not Grow Old\". He also has a Beatles documentary out that may be similar. check it out. They were as we are today.",
"You had me for a second. this AI is bad."
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1906 film shoot turns into probably the world's first cat video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhxQT60tSxQ
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[
"Come back to me when these “Asian gangs” gain any political power. Right now it’s just a bunch of rats fighting over scraps.",
"lol man you are dripping with edge",
"cool video, nice insider info you normally dont hear",
"And you are dripping with insignificance.",
"If I wanted my comeback I would have asked you to spit it out last night.",
"I’m not your mother. Poor confused little child…",
"You wish you were my mother, atleast then someone would love you.",
"Nobody loves your mom. We just fuck her senseless. So…..",
"Lol calm down guy, why you mad?",
"Why would I be mad? I just fucked your mom senseless…. All good over here",
"Haha okay snowflake, I didn't realize you'd crack that easy.",
"“Haha ok snowflake?”\nReal original.\nYour desperation to appear relevant is gross.",
"Ooooh that got just the reaction I expected it would haha\nIt's like your entire argument,if you could even call it that, about Asian gangs went out the window the second I called you edgy. What an ego\n\nBesides, *Ya played ya self*",
"And your “argument” to the contrary is what? Because as far as I can tell, your lazy ass went straight for ad-hoc attacks instead of addressing the issue. But sure, pretend your high school tactics have some place in legitimate debate and you’ve proven so much…. Pretend, while we live in the real world.",
"I'm not sure what tiny little bubble you live in, but news flash, if you act like an asshole, people will act like an asshole to you. Chew on that, really taste it, and swallow it down.\n\n It's beyond me how you've gone this far behaving the way you do whilst having the audacity to be defensive about it. Like, I don't even have to look at your profile to know that your comments are filled with the same ilk. \n\n\n*ya just plain boring*",
"Still waiting for that argument….",
"Haha my only role here was to call out how edgy you were acting, and all this has just proved my point, so is there even a need for my argument any more? Haven't you proven my point?\n\nIt's okay, you can answer.",
"“My only role here” … like people are on the edge of their seats waiting for your latest example of cyber martyrdom. Like you were hired to be a substance-less douche…. It’s not my fault that you can’t concoct a coherent argument relevant to the issue. Your personal or mental shortcomings should be addressed in the privacy of you and your medical provider. Not my job to help the hopeless bro",
"Hahahah okay I get it, there's nothing going on in there, huh?\n\nGood luck out there lil guy, you'll need it!",
"Thanks big fella. Can’t wait to be like you when I grow up.",
"You'll get there :)"
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Asian gangs in the San Fernando Valley
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rjoebe/deleted_by_user/
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"\"Covid doesn't know we are flying at cruising altitude\"\n\nWhat does that even mean ?",
"Sure he’s a douche, but calling people plague rats is a real bad look.",
"At this point that's literally what they are. Fucking rats on the ship getting us all sick.",
"What's crazy is this is less embarrassing than Kaepernick comparing himself to Rosa Parks.",
"Is this worth losing your humanity over? The pandemic has brought out the worst in a lot of people. You’re the just the opposite side of the coin, of the dude in the video.",
"Worse than being a plague rat?\n\nLOL at the plague rat downvotes. You guys are what's wrong with the world. Wake the fuck up.",
"He’s been waiting for this moment. Finally — FINALLY!!! — he got the attention he craved.",
"It’s the old “giant douche” vs “turd sandwich” situation.",
"He did this shit 20 times before he got what he wanted. (Controversy/attention)…then you have the idiots that followed him off? Lmao",
"There's a huge difference between calling someone a name and doing things that put other people's lives in danger. One thing is harmless while the other thing is potentially deadly.",
"It’s a perfect comparison, if Rosa Parks had the option of becoming white.",
"One is a hypothetical. The other is a certainty. You can speculate about how selfish or reckless someone else is, but when you call someone a plague rat you remove all doubt that you’re ok with being vile as long as you feel justified in doing so.",
"Why should anyone care about the feelings of a person who couldn't give a shit less if their actions killed another person? Their actions could kill you, me, or people we care about and they wouldn't even lose a second of sleep over it and yet somehow I'm the bad guy here if I call them a name even though they'll never even know I said it? You've got your priorities backwards. Defending selfish assholes who are getting other people killed is not a good look.",
"You’re no different if you support this type of behaviour."
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/r/videos/comments/rjovaj/utrecht_planning_for_people_bikes_not_for_cars/
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"Does it really matter?",
"i'm so happy i have European citizenship.. i honestly might move there.",
"Step one build the most massive and extensive highway network in Europe step two have some idiot on YouTube make a video not actually adding that fact.",
"50% taxes pays for your tram ride"
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Utrecht: Planning for People & Bikes, Not for Cars
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9G1FhQUnSo
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/r/videos/comments/rjoylo/rem_performing_furry_happy_monsters_on_sesame/
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[
"Was the red headed puppet sung by Kate Pierson? Because that would have been awesome.",
"According to https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/see-rem-get-down-and-furry-on-sesame-street-63909/ it was Stephanie D’Abruzzo.",
"That slapped. As the kids would say. I think.",
"That female humanoid muppet wasn't even furry..."
] | 4 |
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R.E.M. performing Furry Happy Monsters on Sesame Street
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umBroXYIiks&ab_channel=BondiVet
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/r/videos/comments/rjp3gs/vet_removes_3_teeth_that_got_trapped_in_crocs/
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[
"That was some of the worst talking to the camera talk I've ever seen. Interesting stuff but my god, I couldn't take much more.",
"Damn Riley likes them big girls",
"Did the croc thank them by performing a cover of Pumped Up Kicks?",
"I know, it was just insulting. \"This crocodile has impacted teeth, therefore they are resilient and powerful\"",
"Will the empty hole not get severely infected?",
"It was a gaping hole before so the croc was probably fighting off an infection or two the entire time. They removed the problem teeth, cleaned out the wound after, he'll be in much better shape now regardless",
"Dr Chris 'I wont say no to any TV appearance ever' Brown is beloved by TV producers and a large range of women across Australia. I'm sure the usual vet at the Croc Park was spewin that he didnt get the gig.",
"Its a croc, clean it out, give em some ABs, no real problem."
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Vet Removes 3 TEETH That Got Trapped In Crocs Mouth | Bondi Vet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbXIONSjmkY
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/r/videos/comments/rjp90n/what_makes_tears_in_rain_special_blade_runner_1982/
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[
"Poignant regret of not being able to pass on experience and personal views",
"I heard these lines were improvised on set, some of the best on screen.\n\n(not sure if that's covered in the video, didn't watch)",
"They weren't improvised. They had something bland on the script, and Rutger wrote the monologue something like the night before shooting the scene.\n\nStill a great story."
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What Makes 'Tears in Rain' Special | Blade Runner 1982
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGG-A80Tl5g
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/r/videos/comments/rjpf5o/eating_less_meat_wont_save_the_planet_heres_why/
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[
"so their only argument is that « fossil resources are polluting more, we need to keep eating meat »?",
"Sponsored by Meaty McMeatface",
"I mean a huge part of the video is just putting the pollution data into context, so you can think about it outside of headline statistics. The video isn't trying to get you to keep eating meat at all, just trying to share information that is largely ignored. Concrete pollution, for example, gets almost no attention compared to meat-related pollution, yet the impact of concrete is an order of magnitude higher than meat. By all means continue without meat, but don't think that's the only thing to do, or that it's even the highest priority.\n\nThey also talk about how carbon involved in meat-production is part of a natural cycle, and the only thing about fossil fuels is that there is no cycle that evolved to handle fuel emissions.",
"So it's whataboutism",
"Not at all. If you call looking at more ways to save the environment whataboutism, then sure.",
"I looked up the producer of this show and it was an Angus cow. caught you",
"Mooo",
"This video was definitely interesting to watch. Thanks for sharing it. \n\nAs it is entitled \"Meat\", I thought that me main point was to show that vegetarianism/vegan may be wrong regarding stop consumming meat products. But it is more like \"it is not a big deal\".\n\nWasted meat compared to fruits/vegetables is also interesting, however, if we stop consumming meat, we will reach 0% wasted meat and wasted vegetables and fruits products will decrease because people will need to eat plenty of those products to counter the lack of meat in their diet. Eating meat is only about taste, habit and cultural tradition.\n\nThe natural cycle of carbon and methan is new to me, but definitely interesting to know. And I like how they tell that fossil fuel is still the biggest issue of our society.\n\nThe thing is that, as an individual, I cannot do anything with the cement industry or fossil fuel industry, reducing my plastic consumption is still insignifiant for our planet. They dont really give a solution to slow down the fossil fuel industry.",
"> looking at more ways to save the environment\n\nIs there someone out there saying what you're arguing against? In other words, is there a person who believes the only way to 'save the planet' is through eliminating meat consumption, and absolutely nothing else? I don't think that's realistic. Reducing meat consumption is one of many different things we can do to help. It's never been the only thing.",
"Honestly, I don't know what you're being hostile about. I'm trying to create discussion about the other ways we emit carbon. Instead you came here to troll. You called it whataboutism when meat is just about the only thing I see in headlines anymore. I've always maintained that meat is one facet of the emissions problem in this thread, so I don't know where you got that.",
"I'd say what I took away is that it's still a big deal, but that we should place a lot more pressure on industrial polluters. As of late, it's trendy to talk about meat, but the fossil fuel/industrial focus has died down in popular media.\n\nAs far as the purpose of meat, I think it's more nuanced than taste or tradition. It's a practical and high quality food source. From a supply chain perspective, I worry about plant diseases such as plant rust or panama disease, which we don't seem to be able to stop. The US wheat supply was almost wiped out half a decade ago. Meat adds a variety that we can at the very least fall back on (though, so do GMOs).\n\nAs far as individual action goes, I guess the most we can do is call our representatives or eco-protest.",
"Industrial polluters should be the main focus in our society. But this society is driven by power, growth; capitalism. Many of the empowered people of this planet are promoting the fossil fuel industry by investing in it. That's why they will not put it down. They want to get enriched and empowered by making as much profit as possible.\n\nHowever, fossil fuel industry helped our society to develop itself the way it is today. \n\nEating meat is still very unhealthy and it has been proven; higher risk of heart disease, cancer, stroke, obesity, diabetes... Moreover, worldwide pandemics have risen from the animal agriculture industry. However I am not aware of plant based disease, but I guess it will have less impact in our society. Animals absorb micro plastics, but plants also, as well as pesticides and every other tiny things that we are not aware of. We couldn't make a 100% healthy product, soils and oceans are already polluted.\n\nImmediate actions need to be taken but we will not see any major changes in the upcoming years sadly",
"good video. regardless of my opinion i like that we now have at least a discussion instead of just good intentions.",
"They forgot to factor in how much food we currently waste.",
"dont agree with video but nice effects"
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Eating less Meat won't save the Planet. Here's Why
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https://youtu.be/-pW2ATrDnA8
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/r/videos/comments/rjpwiw/how_dupont_poisoned_the_world/
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[
"Fun fact: 99.9% of all living life, now has noticeable traces of these chemicals in their body. Its no wonder so many people get sick out of nowhere or have reproductive/endocrine problems but dont expect them to pay for your hospital bill or even yet, admit fault. Thanks, Dupont!",
"It is absolutely wild that the EPA can only test chemicals in they have been provided with evidence of harm.\n\nPretty sure in the EU you have to prove that the chemical you are introducing is not harmful.",
"I too watched that Dark Waters movie. Also AFAIK Teflon in retail form is safe at normal cooking temps, people only got sick on the production line. So if you have a teflon pan at home and are cooking on something which isn't a volcano you should be good. That said DuPont are scum",
"The surface can be scratched easily, which is why you're not supposed to use metal with them.",
"The movie about this was really good.",
"We have a factory just down the road from us :/ \nI will say that when people retire from that factory they seem just to die very quickly afterwards and I don't hear of many people actually retiring",
"While the chemical is inert it does bio accumulate in the body. Our bodies have no way of breaking it down or expelling it that's why it gets everywhere in everything.",
"John Oliver also recently covered PFAS: https://youtu.be/9W74aeuqsiU",
"ta chido",
"Should be noted that the human studies linking C8 to any risk in cancer has found only small potential increases (according to American Cancer Society) with no ability to definitely link a casual relationship. The animal studies tend to use very high doses and may not be revelenat for normal humab absorbtion. Additionally C8 has been phased out from the use in making Teflon starting in 2006 in the US. Not saying it's not crazy that the entire population now has this chemical in their system, but we should keep the potential harms in reason.",
"Source?",
"Google 'PFOA C9'; click wiki, read and scroll to sources, ???… Profit.\n\nhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0887233317302825?via%3Dihub",
"Go watch The Devil We Know. That’ll open your eyes. Money over everything.",
"Thanks ☺️",
"This shit is one of the main reasons why peoples mouths are getting smaller/ more crooked teeth. Not because we're eating 'softer' food- whatever the hell the means- that theory was always dumb to me.\n\nEndocrine disrupters are totally messing with normal child development. Flame retardants are another huge source.\n\nWe haven't even begun to realise how badly we've fucked up or bodies and environment. Cancer, ADHD, Autism, Parkinsons, Dementia, CFS. All massively on the rise and all already linked to these toxins. \n\nWe're so fucking stupid it's infuriating. So many lives ruined because of an insane addiction to commerce.",
"The way he talks made me think it was a 2-3 min video that he was trying to cram as much info into as possible. When I saw it was 20+ min I immediately stopped it",
"What's up with the down votes for this post? Are we just looking for the facts that support what we already want to believe?",
"my first job was selling stainless cookware. This was a discussion point. You would be amazed how few people know of dangers of Teflon et al (or aluminium for that matter even that you can physically see the pitting from stuff that went into your food..possibly triggering Alzheimers if you had the genetic predisposition\n\nstainless and cast iron all the way!",
"Dark Water AND The Devil We Know",
"That's another issue being chemically inert just means it won't react to breakdown on its own.",
"That is a very good documentary. The one OP linked is just simple minded, childish rubbish.",
"What studies make you feel so sure?",
"Thanks :)",
"What's the link between Teflon and Dementia?",
"And they poison the waters in my state with genx now.",
"Our jaws have been shrinking for around 12,000 years... So I agree pollution is bad, but I don't think it's causing that.\n\nFire fighting foams are a big source of PFAS and a big issue. I'd be careful with conflating the effects of C8/genX with the effects of other chemicals because people can argue \"there's no evidence that C8 causes ADHD, checkmate\" and dismiss your concerns.",
"Welcome to the wonderful world of regulatory capture!...Where you, a greedy multinational corporation get to actually choose what regulations you will and often, will not be held accountable to. And if you do somehow get caught doing something nefarious, in most cases your penalty will be less than a months worth of profits!",
"Yeah PFAS are bad for you but you can't just connect random problems to PFAS just because PFAS are bad. Every chemical will cause specific issues, crediting other issues to a chemical just means you're not fixing the other problems that need to be fixed.\n\nThe jaw issue started around 12,000 years ago:\n\nhttps://phys.org/news/2015-02-malocclusion-dental-crowding-arose-years.html",
"What factory is that?",
"Everybody's in here crying in the thread about the planet but guess what your eggs don't stick to your pan. Point to DuPont.",
"24 minutes. Long for me.",
">Pretty sure in the EU you have to prove that the chemical you are introducing is not harmful.\n\nIt's literally not possible to prove a negative. And while many regulatory bodies and large corporations are both corrupt and inept, espousing completely illogical rhetoric doesn't help.\n\nNot that laws and regulations are actually bound by things like logic, so you may very well still be correct.",
"Hi. Person with chemistry degree here.\n\n1. No idea why this dude is referring to [PTFE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene) (Teflon) as \"C8s\" lmao. I think he just doesn't know shit about chemistry so the abbreviations are confusing for him - so he's just using them interchangeably because... THE LETTERS ARE SIMILAR, SURELY THEY'RE THE SAME.\nThe chemical known as \"C8\" is properly called [PFOA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene#PFOA). It's been used in the process of, but is not required for PTFE manufacturing. Idk, if you're going to make a whole ass 24 minute video about a chemical, maybe make it about the correct chemical? Like, I can't even fact check most of this because I don't even know what chemical the guy is talking about at any given moment. It's usually not PTFE as far as I can tell.\n\n\n2. There is literally no such thing as a \"forever chemical\". This guy read the Wikipedia article which says it \"persists indefinitely in the environment\". [The source](https://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/P100LTG6.TXT?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=EPA&Index=2011+Thru+2015&Docs=&Query=&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&IntQFieldOp=0&ExtQFieldOp=0&XmlQuery=&File=D%3A%5Czyfiles%5CIndex%20Data%5C11thru15%5CTxt%5C00000014%5CP100LTG6.txt&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=anonymous&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=1&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r75g8/r75g8/x150y150g16/i425&Display=hpfr&DefSeekPage=x&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page&MaximumPages=1&ZyEntry=1&SeekPage=x&ZyPURL) on wikipedia for this claim is an EPA publication which says the chemical is \"extremely resistant\" to environmental degradation, and of course does NOT state that it stays in the environment forever (because that's not possible). Okay, yeah, it sticks around for a long time - but not FOREVER. There is a very LARGE difference between 20 or 50 years vs. infinity years. Again, if you're going to make a 24 minute educational video about something maybe FACT CHECK your sources?\n\n3. The association between PFOA and cancers is sourced from [a study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3855507/) that looked at the health of people working in, and living in the immediate vicinity of a plant that used PFOA and dumped it into the environment around the plant. In fact, the study ends by specifying that further study of a population that is not *specifically exposed to high levels of the chemical* is necessary to draw conclusions.\n\nThis is not a thorough review of the video. Honestly, it would be pointless. The lack of expertise and fact checking in the first few minutes is enough to discount the entire video off the rip. This is not to say that PTFE is NOT harmful to health, but if you're going to take on an issue such as this you can't start with half-ass research and work your way up to truth.",
"History repeats I guess....this is leaded gasoline, paint, pipes, etc all over again.",
"The Business Factory",
"Family is from west virginia. Lived near a Dupont plant. 98% of them have died from cancer early.",
"Maybe I should just strap my job helmet on and climb into the job cannon and launch myself to job land where jobs grow on jobbies!",
"Man your whole life philosophy is well and good, but people are not antagonizing you when they ask for sources to reputable studies\n\n\"Living life consciously\" is the first step in putting out a study on something like this, not an equal replacement",
"To be clear, though, the answer is better and more regulations, not less, as is often the argument some will advocate when they bring up regulatory capture.",
"pretty sure this would be a reason i would go postal and execute everyone that was lying or hiding information.",
"\"literally not possible to prove a negative\"\n\nHowever there are plenty of tests you can do to show that the chemical is not harmful to your knowledge",
"That was my biggest problem with Trump. He put a hold on lobbying, but who the fuck needs lobbyist when you put them in charge of the governmental department they are trying to control.",
"Good documentary called \"The Devil We Know\", for anyone who wants more.",
"Just a quality video all around.",
"> He put a hold on lobbying\n\nNo, he didn't.",
"It's okay though, because they were rich, and they got richer.",
"I literally watched the movie today. I saw a video for it a few weeks ago and finally got to it when hungover today. Love documentary movies in that style. I had already seen that documentary about Bucky Bailey too. \n\nAny one have any good recommendations of similar movies? I’m downloading The Insider right now",
"Spotlight",
"This trend of channels pumping out \"slick-infotainment-as-fact-with-no-sources\" videos arguably do more bad than good... like that time with the Boston bomber, raising pitchforks over misinformation, inaccuracies, oversimplifications and half truths arguably does more harm than good.",
"The one with the wrestlers and that guy from The Office?",
"I really enjoy Dark Water",
"These are the same clowns that confuse hydrocarbons with carbohydrates...",
"From Jake tran I learned the world is ruled by even the most innocuous mafias",
"Even that article that you posted shows very mild changes in theca cells, and these were at levels much higher than what most people would have in there bloodstream. It seems like its something concerning, but its a unfair to say that this is \" Extremely Toxic\"\n (https://sci-hubtw.hkvisa.net/10.1016/j.tiv.2017.09.030)",
"Not sure who you're responding to. But the level of toxicity itself might be a secondary concern; as 95-99% of people have this chemical in blood. Even if chances of complications are low you're still multiplying by 7 billion instances of exposure.\n\n 'extremely toxic' was not mentioned in any of the above comments, so not sure where you pulled that in. However there are local exposure spots that data have shown are deleterious to human health to say the least. Look into 'dark waters' and Roy Bilot(?) Lawsuit against DuPont.",
"Seen that at least 3 times now. Such an incredible movie",
"1)Extremely Toxic- is in the video. \n2)There is a big difference between exposure to C8 and exposure and exposure to industrial waste used to make a material. \n3) The link is the full article you linked to.",
"PFOS and similar... Never deal with fluorine compound except for natural fluoride. The golden rule in my lab. I tried to buy calibration standards btwfor environment samples, but my purchase order was rejected from the supplier because the compounds was listed as dangerous and new EU rules.",
"> It's literally not possible to prove a negative. \n \nTell us you think you know philosophy without ever having studied any philosophy without mentioning your education at all. When did you become one of those Truthers who believes there might be a largest prime number?",
"The C8 IS THE INDUSTRIAL BYPRODUCT OF PRODUCTION OF TEFLON. IT CAN ONLY BE BURNED. DUPONT SAYS 'TOO EXPENSIVE' AND DUMPS IT INTO RIVERS. Your argument makes a distinction without a difference. You fundamentally misunderstand what happened here.",
"The article you posted shows evidence that in testing elevated PFOA levels only made a significant change PFOS and PFOA inhibited the secretion of steroid hormones in theca cells stimulated with LH, and in granulosa cells stimulated with FSH. These were at concentrations far above what the average person has in there bloodstream. \n\nMost of the epidemiological shows scant evidence that the average PFOA levels effect hormone production, however there is some evidence to suggest VERY high levels effect hormone production on factory workers.",
"Which state?",
"It’s confusing and sad",
"Its [North Carolina](https://deq.nc.gov/news/key-issues/genx-investigation).",
"Thank you"
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How DuPont poisoned the world
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rjquej/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/rjquej/deleted_by_user/
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[
"This is as close to animation as brushing your dick across some guitar strings is close to music.",
"This is why YouTube killed the dislike button. \n\nNice clickbait preview image.",
"If you put it into the F hole it's fucking close to music."
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[deleted by user]
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rjsyw6/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/rjsyw6/deleted_by_user/
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[
"Is this from the game Lineage 2?",
"Hi, it's written in the video description yes",
"Playing it on reddit does not give you video description.",
"So because of that you hit the dislike? Like I coded reddit to not show the video description. Wtf",
"No, I didnt upvote or downvote. I asked a question and you answered. I responded with why I didnt see it. That was it. I have no idea what the dislike stuff is about."
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[deleted by user]
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https://youtu.be/jjNwX7EcnCU
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/r/videos/comments/rjt346/japans_robot_waiters/
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[
"These cost like 15k. They will come sing happy birthday to you if you tell them it's your bday.",
"They have those in some sushi restaurants here in Canada. They still use waiters to bring some stuff like tea though.",
"So, more cost effective than a part time mom who wants benefits.",
"[Here's the robot for those that want to learn more](https://www.pudurobotics.com/product/detail/bellabot)",
"So 1 years wage at $7.20/hr 40hrs/week. \n\nProvided it doesn't break down"
] | 5 |
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Japan's Robot Waiters
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sl5KJ69qiA&t=2s
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/r/videos/comments/rjt3oi/the_trolley_problem_in_real_life_what_would_you/
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[
"Always kill the least amount of people. Unless there are people amongst them I care about. In that case kill the other group. If there are people of mine on both groups, toss a coin and let chance decide.",
"Wow. Despite the steps they took to ensure it was ethical, this is incredibly unethical.",
"The real trolley problem.\n\nhttps://kottke.org/20/10/the-real-trolley-problem",
"Totally agree. They basically generate a moment of stress/potential trauma, and instead of immediately addressing their psychological state (‘terrified’, ‘horrified’ in their own words) they immediately launch in to cold clinical questioning. \n\nLike damn give them a blanket and some hot chocolate tell them it’s ok they didn’t do anything wrong, everyone is ok, hug them idk Jesus…",
"It's cool that they turned off the comments when people were pointing out that the switch was already turned when the guy was panicking at 27:23.",
"Yep its bullshit",
"The person on the sidewalk has not put themselves into a dangerous situation. Why should he be chosen to die for the two morons playing in traffic?"
] | 7 |
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The Trolley Problem in Real Life. What would you do if faced with this dilemma?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0wB7pV-oq0
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/r/videos/comments/rjuxv3/morning_routine_in_the_coldest_village_on_earth/
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[
"Very interesting. But I'll pass on the no running water or indoor plumbing. That seems like a very hard life.\n\nI can't imagine having to go outdoors in that to go to the bathroom.",
"Imagine needing to pee in the middle of the night.",
"Pass. I would just suffer.",
"living in such a harsh climate is not easy, thanks for sharing",
"Piss jugs, way of the road.",
"what ? how do you live there bro , in my country temperature 🌡 16 ... I say its very cold 🥶",
"Yeah but then you gotta throw all your dirty piss jugs all over the park",
"interesting thanks"
] | 8 |
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Morning routine in the Coldest Village on Earth, Yakutia
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https://youtu.be/aRWB81qrzts
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/r/videos/comments/rjvcwd/a_year_in_facebook_an_exposé_by_simon_caine/
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[
"If you're not subbed to his videos, you totally should. Subtle British humor at it's finest!",
"Hard pass.",
"Not ne",
"Might be better if you don't pose as a disconnected viewer - just be honest and say that they're your videos and that you'd like people to give them a go.",
"Pardon? Totally not that guy. I AM a European, simon however , is not. I do enjoy his videos and find it a pity h doesn't get more love",
"Hello! So I have no idea how to prove to you that the sharer of this video isn't me, but I search on here and Twitter for people sharing my links to thank them (as a small channel, I like to take the time to do this). \n\nSo I found this and just wanted to say, I totally get your comment but it's not me. :) But I do massively appreciate the support and share they've done. :)",
"Thank you so much! I massively appreciate the share. Can't tell you what a difference it makes. Godspeed and stay safe :)",
"You're welcome. You did ask for it 😉. I do think your channel doesn't get the attention it deserves . But i'm a big fan, so might be biased.",
"Haha. I did ask (and I'm enterally grateful). \nThank you again. I'm so blown away / humbled by how well it is growing. And the community comments are restoring my faith in the \"comments section\". \n\nGodspeed dude!",
"Reddit is strange.... Getting some downvotes (more than usual) on these postings"
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A year in facebook; an exposé by Simon Caine.
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https://youtu.be/NHd8diwCGUI
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"Very cool, for future reference look a the camera lenses in the reflection. Looks a lot better then staring at the screen.",
"incredible human work. No job...",
"Solid advice, will do it in closeups",
"Good song",
"Great window's on one life! Thank you mate!"
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500 DoorDash/Wolt deliveries in one video.
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https://player.vimeo.com/video/49553744
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"The runners-up? [The Last Picture Show](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Picture_Show) and [The French Connection.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_French_Connection_%28film%29) \n \n[Vincent Canby's New York Times review.](https://i.imgur.com/e0e6J3j.jpg) \n \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film) \n \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(novel) \n \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_New_York_Film_Critics_Circle_Awards",
"Gorgeousness and gorgeousity...",
"i think this movie is terrible. i can’t get past the rape scene, where is the artistic value in a rape scene?",
"Its not so much the scene itself but how the story changes because of it. The gang of Droogs leave Alex at the rape scene so he is arrested because the gang no longer wants him as their leader.",
"The value is that it progresses the story?",
"okay i guess i should rewatch and maybe skim thru the rape. i do love stanley kubrick",
"by any means necessary i guess",
"A real horror show! Reread the book last month and got into looking the meaning behind the words they use. Pretty interesting that most of them come from [russian.](https://www.rbth.com/education/326453-russia-words-from-clockwork-orange)",
"It's a movie, not real life. If you can't seperate the two, you probably shouldn't watch any movie.",
"I have worked with nadsats and have told them directly that I do no get their nadsat fashion but still they do not pony my words.",
"I am with you. I have never been able to get on board with graphic sexual violence in films. Obviously tons of people thinks it’s ok, but I’d much rather that the scene be implied. I truly don’t see the point. Just a difference in opinion I guess. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted because I don’t understand the art 🤷🏻♀️",
"they leave him at the murder scene, this is well after the rape scene.",
"i do agree it is a hard scene to watch, and i sometimes skip that scene, but its showing you how violent this guy is, that we shouldnt be rooting for him and should be happy when he gets caught.",
"Ultra-violence is cool though, yeah?",
"The scene is implied, we never actually see anything besides Alex cutting her clothes. You never see him rape anyone.",
"I don’t really watch those kinds of movies either. I’m more into comedies",
"Ok, not the best person to be having the conversation with I guess.",
"Lol, seriously I’m not. I’m more of a Will Ferrell kind of person.",
"Enjoy :)"
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Happy 50th anniversary 'A Clockwork Orange'! Viddy this, all you devotchkas and malchicks.
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"The glasses part got me.\n\nHorny old fella.",
"Wow, that's incredible! I'd imagine that takes a lot of practice.",
"mfw no butttrumpet",
"Now THAT is an entertainer.",
"Clapping on every beat during a blues song. Disgusting.",
"And to think this was performed on a show about rugby league.",
"Wow, a sex symbol if ever I saw one.",
"Fuck me, at least if it were actually in time it would semi bearable"
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"Had a rat in our suburban garage, just one, looking for shelter for the winter. Incredibly destructive bugger, it chewed right through a bracing 2x4 to get in and out after the door closed, shredded some foam padding in my kayak, and destroyed a bag of fruit-juice recyclable containers to get at the remaining drops. After a few days of trying, I managed to snap-trap it, and it was huge, the size of a large squirrel.\n\nThat was just one.\n\nWatching the sheer number of rats in this colony gave me the shivers.",
"r/oddlysatisfying",
"Why did I watch this whole thing? Like, I couldn’t stop.",
"[Never go full retard.](https://youtu.be/lNFGLRR27EA?t=169)",
"The one guy there completely marble-mouthed had me in fucking knots.\n\nEdit: The dude at 2:49 and other areas.",
"Potato field, maybe..",
"Dogs kill rats by shaking them. The shaking also prevents the dog from being bit. Sort of a two for one. When your dog vigorously shakes its toy, they probably are going through the motions of killing it.",
"\"You mean proper fucked?\"",
"[ **Jump to 02:49 @** Ratting with terriers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNFGLRR27EA&t=0h2m49s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Matthew Noall, Video Length: [22:19])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNFGLRR27EA&t=0h2m44s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"Do they eat them ?",
"You maybenjoy the popping subreddit",
"Can’t tell what sounds worst. The humans or the rat squeals. Good dogs tho.",
"No, just like the Indominus Rex, they kill for sport.",
"Whenever I see these videos I think it must be like Christmas for the terriers. The best day of the entire year.",
"My cat would want to make friends with the rat. Useless cat, LOL",
"Chicken coops. They have large chicken barns or coops. The ground becomes covered in poop and chicken fees so the rats dig little liars in it. \n\nThe farmer moves the coop/barn and brings in the ratters to catch the rats because if they just plowed the ground under the rats would run to the new coops. So they catch the rats this way to kill them for good. Rats also eat chickens and carry disease so the farmer has to eliminate them.",
"I watch The Mink Man because he trains dogs minks and a Monitor Lizard to hunt rats.",
"I used to have a border terrier who shook his toys, and anything he knew I didn't want him to get hold of, just like these dogs do. I imagine that had I taken him ratting it would've been the best day of his little life. RIP Zorro.",
"I love the little kid.\n“This one’s eye balls are come out…”",
"I always send this video or similar to friends that have adopted a Mutt and they don’t know what breed. I ask does it like to dig or like squeaky toys… it has part terrier because those dogs were bred for this.",
"Our little terrier ( whom has likely never seen a rat ) will chew on her toy until it squeaks a couple of times once it does she is done with it for awhile.",
"The skaven took some hard losses that day",
"For anyone who has dealt with a rodent infestation, this is cathartic.",
"The Terrier Regiment of Renown melts the rat men.",
"What kind of dirt is this? It is really soft dirt.",
"That's fascinating and disgusting at the same time",
"Heh. A year ago I would’ve felt sorry for these rat bastards. Then a smart crew of them moved into my attic. After a year of warfare they’ve learned to be quiet. But they are still there.",
"I love cats very much, but if I had a rodent problem I'd turn to terriers. They're amazing at what they do.\n\nThere's some really cool folks that form up in urban areas and do \"illicit\" ratting to help keep pest populations down. I also LOVE it when terriers are paired with a ferret for the ultimate \"you chase 'em out, I'll take 'em down\" team.",
"I was wondering why rats make their little homes in that dirt. Makes sense",
"We have two ferrets and a terrier. They actually team up to fuck with the cat.",
"I suspect when the dogs are shaking their head, with no rat, it's because they were just bit and that hurts",
"Interesting, i wonder how effective its is, do they do it like once a year? Besides why in the middle of a field, what are they trying to protect?",
"Because it's oddly satisfying watching these dogs do exactly what they were bred to do.",
"I love the comments section every time this is posted.",
"Whenever a rodent/pest control thread pops up on reddit, there are always some posts about how whatever method being used is inhumane blah blah blah, and those posts are always filled responded to with something along the lines of \"you know how I know you have never had to deal with an actual rodent problem?\"\n\nBecause if you have, you no longer care if the rats feel any pain or suffer, you just want to wipe them out by any means that is effective and doesn't harm you, your family, or your pets.",
"What is going on w/that guy? lol",
";\\_; Oh no! Poor kitty!",
"If they were hungry enough",
"This is horrible but I enjoyed every second of it.",
"Squirrels are just rats with better marketing.",
"This was fascinating.",
"And people feed them.",
"In the comments they said they have to do it every year, under the chicken coops.",
"Inbreeding most likely.",
"Weird that the dog wouldn’t think the ferret was prey.",
"It’s chicken shit.",
"aha thxs",
"The dogs are going to talk about this as the best day ever for years. \"Hey remember that day with the dirt and all the meaty squeaky toys? So many meaty squeaky toys.\"",
"He is so excited he can barely contain himself, perhaps he is completely loaded, or perhaps he joined in with the dogs, and took a rat bite to the tongue...\n\nOr all three.",
"Same thing with my Irish. He plays tug of war until he accidentally hits the squeaker, then he’s out",
"We need them in NYC",
"We had an old wooden shed we tore down to put up a new metal one. Tear down day was the best day for our Aussies because there was a family of rats that was living in the shed and were suddenly exposed. Aussies are good ranch dogs and love to kill vermin just like those terriers. Best dog day ever.",
"Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds",
"r/natureismetal",
"Like watching a pitbull break into a daycare center.",
"They love what they do!",
"Those are some good boys",
"So is this actually effective at keeping the pests down, or do they just do this for fun/tradition?",
"\"Disturbing Content\"?????\n\nJannies lmao",
"The toddlers didn't stand a chance and the adults did nothing to help.",
"In this video, one of the dogs swallows a rat whole. I can't remember at what time in the video, but it's in there.",
"Tiger has fun with it too. It's just funny to watch it in action.",
"I fucking hate squirrels. Scumbags.",
"/r/jesuschristreddit",
"My beloved Shih Tzu would eat his way through adamantium to get to the squeaker in any toy. He would have given this video 5 paws up. Thanks for sharing!",
"Sometimes.",
"You hilarious bastard.",
"Looks like.",
"That is basically the opening monologue of Inglourious Basterds.",
"We had a few mice in our house in China and the cat was completely useless. Didn't even know they were there.\n\nThe dog, however, was a beast. He was on guard all the time and promptly chased them down.",
"Cats will hunt rats because they WANT to. But they also might not, depends on how much they personally want to kill at the moment lol. \n\nTerriers are better at because Dogs love having a job lol, so they go for that shit like they need it.",
"> Indominus Rex\n\nI don't think I've ever seen anyone actually reference the Jurassic World films lol",
"[They have them in NYC!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryders_Alley_Trencher-fed_Society)",
"I assume the owner trains the dog to see the ferret as a teammate? Not sure how it works, but it's cool to watch (video shows rats being caught by dogs if you do not wish to see such a thing): \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl2sYvFQ8Zw",
"Oh, okay! Sometimes you just have to team up and lovingly bully your cat-sibling, lol.",
"\"ya lake dags?\"",
"The nanny dogs?",
"They fucking destroyed 6 of my bonsai trees. Furry little assholes",
"2 rats can turn into 1,250 rats in 1 year, and 500 million rats in 3 years.",
" I’ve got a rat terrier and the closest he gets to doing his work is digging at the beach, but He hasn’t got to actually hunt yet. He’d freaking love it I’m sure",
"Nah he's just Scottish.",
"Beautiful! Dogs doing what is in their nature!",
"As someone who got a squirrel bite, I can tell you that *you do not want that shit*.",
"“In 2017, New York City councilmember Eric Ulrich called upon the group to eradicate rats in Ozone Park, Queens and awarded them for their efforts. The dogs each received a \"Vigilante Award\" from the New York City Council, a dog bone, and beef jerky treats.”",
"\"Yes, use weapons of mass destruction is on the table\"",
"great now i'm hungry",
"We had a cat that brought in nineteen rats in fourteen days. One which we didn't find until the smell from under the bed alerted us.\n\nWe never worked out where she got them from, could have been the neighbour who kept pigeons, but more likely the housing commission block up the road that had a communal dumpster.\n\nShe used to bring them in sometimes before and after that, but obviously found a nest and wiped them out.",
"Yeah definitely. The video might be a bit horrifying for some, but those are some happy hardworking dogs, satisfying their primal instincts to do exactly what they were bred to do.",
"but are they, though? Always wondered about this one. Don't they behave quite differently? genuine question",
"How would an instinct like this originally get bred into a dog? I understand how selective breeding works with dog size/coats, but how it works with instinct just baffles me.",
"“Disturbing Content” where? Fuck rats.",
"You can train most dogs and cats to recognize what is pet and what is prey. My friend had a pomeranian who would sleep with her pet rat but go after mice.",
"Sounds like [the grape lady](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMS0O3kknvk&t=52s)",
"I had a cat who was completely useless - laid around like a lump. Still is doing so, 21 years and counting, in fact. \n\nExcept for the *one* time there was a mouse in the house. It managed to escape the cat, and make it under the fridge. It turns out all that laying around like a useless lump was training - because he parked himself in front of that fridge and did not move for two and a half days, until the rat was forced to come out for water - where the cat promptly killed it and went back to sleep (after getting his own food and water.)",
"That marketing being the amount of stuff they destroy and shit they leave.",
"Similar how cats like plushy toys that they can disembowel.",
"Poor rats. :(",
"Still went full retard.",
"How are the rats actually dying? Is it brain trauma or spinal break or something?",
"I have a blue heeler/terrier mix and she will shake a toy in circles for like 30 min straight. She does it almost daily.",
"Very interesting",
"Definitely spinal trauma.",
"I've never had a squirrel sneak into my house and take shits everywhere. Squirrels don't need the marketing !",
"Buncha dogs killing some rats",
"Yeah, no shit. I had this 100yo house that was impossible to seal up. Rats came and went in waves. Tried EVERYTHING to get rid of them, from the ridiculously complex to mundane. One day I was feeling defeated and after a few beers expressed interest in a python to put in my attic. My buddy stopped me right there and refused to give his support to that plan. I should have rented these terriers for a week.",
"he's not scottish",
"Yeah that's part of it too. Especially if you've ever owned a terrier it weirdly gives you a sense of pride to see them so happy to do their thing. These dogs are basically in Disneyland.",
"r/donthelpjustwatch",
"Do you just make a lot of them that you keep them outside for the light and space?",
"The narration is bizarre. Like they Google translated the script into English and hired someone to read it exactly, errors and all.",
"There are a # of studies at U of Wash Seattle looking at genetics of dog behaviors. the group there started this in late 90s so I'm sure others around world are looking at this as well. we/animals are mostly programming.",
"Did something similar in my garage. Seems like all dogs just like to hunt rats lol",
"Yes, or neck break.",
"That was super interesting",
">depends on how much they personally want to at the moment\n\nSounds like how cats make all their decisions!",
">oking for shelter for the winter. Incredibly destructive bugger, it chewed right through a bracing 2x4 to get in and out after the door closed, shredded some foam padding in my kayak, and destroyed a bag of fruit-juice recyclable containers to get at the remaining drops. After a few days of t\n\nSo would I, BUT, when we had a rat's nest in the gully between the house and the farm field it was a cat that not only sussed it out, but also went full-on ninja to eradicate the problem. She is now an honorary guest to our garden and nicknamed Ninja. The pup is being taught to obey her.",
"Holy crap that’s a lot of rats.\n\nIs that why they are called rat terriers?",
"Machine language, directly played from the translation.",
"That toy has died many deaths.",
"I have a mix that has a bunch of Corgi but she has some Feist mixed in, she would be in heaven killing all these rats. When I take her for walks, all she does is hunt for small mammals at the park, its her entire life outside of the house. Some dogs just want to protect the neighborhood from invaders.",
"I think they break its neck. Younger, that's how our family dog killed the unfortunate groundhog intruding on our backyard. She would grab it by its neck and shake-shake-shake till it stopped moving.\n\nThen she would proudly carry the dead groundhog for like 30 minutes before starting to eat it head first, just crunching it and swallowing like a treat.\n\nMixed collie-golden retriever for anyone interested in what breed she was.",
"Mud.",
"My mutt is at least 50% Terrier and I can tell he would fucking LOVE to help out with this job. I feel kinda bad that he'll likely never get the chance. He does like hunting frogs on the dykes.",
"Time for [baby's head pudding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_and_kidney_pudding) all round then,,,",
"That's the joke",
"You can see a couple terriers doing that in the video.",
"Why would it be illegal to address a pest problem? Rats pose a serious health risk.",
"If you're not cheering for the rats in this situation you have weak morals\n\nObviously you gotta do what you gotta do, but that doesn't change who the good guys are",
"It says \"ratting with terriers\" but not all are terriers. \n\nSome are lurchers.\n\nLurchers are usually purpose-bred as needed by breeding any good rat terrier to a small sight hound.\n\nThey are faster but too tall and lightly built to get rats out of the ground. They hang around the perimeter and run down pick off any rats that get away from the digging dogs.\n\nThey never took off as pets. I guess they don't excel as pets, but they are important for the job.",
"You think that's a robo-voice? It's damn impressive, but does sound a bit off.",
"It works, it’s why they breed terriers in the first place.",
"You get a rat! And you get a rat! And YOU get a rat!",
"Why are either good or bad?",
"Definition of stirring the \"rat's nest.\"",
"These rats are the underdogs, just trying to live in the world, against forces they can't understand and stood no chance against.",
"This was super interesting!",
"They kill them by breaking their neck.",
"You could say the same thing about every virus or disease.",
"We shall return soon, man-thing, and then you will feel our dreaded retribution, yes-yes!",
"There is something very satisfying about seeing these dogs doing the job they were literally bred for and doing it so well. They're having the time of their lives.",
"Mosquitos too, who will think of the mosquitos?",
"For one they hop and look like a cool little ribbon.",
"Some do. Others try to kill them because if you’re trying to grow certain fruits they get into them",
"I kept them outside because they were trees designed to be outside. Those fucking squirrels on the other hand deserve to be in squirrel jail for a long time. It's not a cheap hobby.",
"As a pest control technician this is very satisfying to watch. I want one now.",
"I guess even with the understanding that something has to be done, you're not allowed to show sympathy for them on reddit? (based on your downvotes)\n\nLike, yes, I know they are pests to us, and they can be devastating, and can cause/carry diseases, so they absolutely do need to be taken care of, but does that mean we're not allowed to feel sympathy for their deaths?\n\nMice and Rats are so incredibly intelligent, and all have the same/similar basic survival instincts as us. These guys just had their safe place from predators ripped open by giants they can't even fathom, to then be ferociously bitten and shaken to death. The rush of adrenaline and hormones from that, I can't imagine the raw fear and terror they were experiencing before their death. Especially with their screams, or that one clinging to the pitchfork *whilst screaming*, was pretty gut wrenching.\n\nThis has to be done, but they're just doing the best they can in life, by their instincts. They didn't choose to carry diseases, or be destructive, so god forbid we feel even a little remorse for something that is just trying to get by in life; what we all do.\n\nLet the downvotes come.",
"lmao Does mommy know you're using the iPad right now?",
"Just started my blitzkreig on the rats in my sheep barn, got 7 yesterday 5 today, I could really use a terrier.",
"Does this really make a dent in the rat population, or are these people just doing it for ‘sport’?\n\nI can’t imagine they can do more than a couple of acres a day at this pace.",
"...the neck is literally the spine, dummy.",
"They already said breaking the spine. The neck is literally the spine.",
"I've watched a lot of videos like this and they're fascinating. It's interesting watching mink, monitor lizards, and other similar creatures partake in it as well. I sometimes think about what it would be like for large creatures to break into your home, command their monsters to viciously shake your body apart, just leaving your carcass laying there amongst the pieces of your wife, and as you fade out of consciousness for the last time, the only sound you hear is their children giggling at the sight of your child's head being crushed so hard that their eyeballs popped right out of their head...",
"Not necessarily. All the dogs I've had have killed rats and mice by chomping them.\n\nThe only dog I've ever had that killed something by shaking it was a staffy bitch that killed a 2 metre taipan when I was 6. She saved my life.",
"I've watched a lot of videos like this and they're fascinating. It's interesting watching mink, monitor lizards, and other similar creatures partake in it as well. I sometimes think about what it would be like for large creatures to break into your home, command their monsters to viciously shake your body apart, just leaving your carcass laying there amongst the pieces of your wife, and as you fade out of consciousness for the last time, the only sound you hear is their children giggling at the sight of your child's head being crushed so hard that their eyeballs popped right out of their head...",
"That's just a normal thing for low-class Brits",
"I'm guessing you haven't heard too many rural British trash people talk before. This is just what they sound like",
"if you have space for enough sheep to need a barn for them, you probably have space for a ten inch high dog..",
"Are you kidding? Nobody *thinks* that's a robo-voice; it 100% is, obviously. That's just one of the basic common computer voices that's getting pretty dated at this point. It isn't really very good at all compared to what they have nowadays.",
"I've watched a lot of videos like this and they're fascinating. It's interesting watching mink, monitor lizards, and other similar creatures partake in it as well. It's 100% necessary, just like if a coyote were to come up to me and beg for food I would stab it in the throat even though I like coyotes, but it does seem a bit hard to watch if you think about it too much. I sometimes think about what it would be like for large creatures to break into your home, command their monsters to viciously shake your body apart, just leaving your carcass laying there amongst the pieces of your wife, and as you fade out of consciousness for the last time, the only sound you hear is their children giggling at the sight of your child's head being crushed so hard that their eyeballs popped right out of their head...",
"\"and if you're listening to this song you might think it's a diss, but I actually love Pitbulls because of how much I hate kids.\"",
"It's 100% necessary, just like if a coyote were to come up to me and beg for food I would stab it in the throat even though I like coyotes, but it does seem a bit hard to watch if you think about it too much. I sometimes think about what it would be like for large creatures to break into your home, command their monsters to viciously shake your body apart, just leaving your carcass laying there amongst the pieces of your wife, and as you fade out of consciousness for the last time, the only sound you hear is their children giggling at the sight of your child's head being crushed so hard that their eyeballs popped right out of their head...",
"I've watched a lot of videos like this and they're fascinating. It's interesting watching mink, monitor lizards, and other similar creatures partake in it as well. It's 100% necessary, just like if a coyote were to come up to me and beg for food I would stab it in the throat even though I like coyotes, but it does seem a bit hard to watch if you think about it too much. I sometimes think about what it would be like for large creatures to break into your home, command their monsters to viciously shake your body apart, just leaving your carcass laying there amongst the pieces of your wife, and as you fade out of consciousness for the last time, the only sound you hear is their children giggling at the sight of your child's head being crushed so hard that their eyeballs popped right out of their head...",
"Lol, for *fun*? What the fuck is wrong with you?",
"... how many rats do you think there could possibly be in this field? They fucking killed over 700, dummy. Of course it \"made a dent\"",
"Fuck you, dick.\n\nThey’re on a fucking farm. Glad they did ONE field.",
":-D",
"I didn't say it wasn't, I added the detail the specific spinal trauma they cause to kill small prey is by breaking the neck.\n\nI hope that felt nice, insulting a stranger online.",
"My mother convinced my dad to let her buy a fully papered pug when I was a kid. Maximus Gludius Baker was his name and my mother essentially had a kill command for him to make him start vigorously shaking his toy, making it squeak profusely, which was \"make it cry\". \n\nWas a great dog.",
"Maybe I should, the rats stole my best trap today.",
"Human toddlers also play things that pretend to be related to killing/avoiding death.\n\nHide and seek is a way to train their hiding skill from predators, the seeker is training his hunting skill.\n\nKids also enjoying naturally playing \"war\" and holding sticks like a spear",
"the hold them from the back of the spin and shake, my dog killed a racoon instantly, probably internal decapitation.\n\nbreaking the spine lower than the neck can cause injury not instant death that's why they aim for the neck",
"He's just a troll",
"I'm sorry, however reading your username after reading all of this had me rolling.",
"Fuck Nazis but I don't want to watch them die.",
"Wolves hunt mice and other rodents at least some of the time, so I don’t think it is that much of a stretch",
"The grunting these people do to encourage the dogs when a rat comes out is hilarious",
"lol uuuuuuh",
"Why would you cheer for either side?",
"Zug zug",
"Thank you. I’ve seen this video before and always wondered what was up with the weird soft soil.",
"If you like food, whether you're vegan or whatever, you have to accept this reality if you want to eat.\n\nI once did a carrot and beet harvest at a farm that failed to control their rodents. We spent ~4 hours pulling up root veggies, and maybe 10% of them them were intact. They had teeth marks and were completely inedible",
"You should think of something else.",
"Undercity discovered :(",
"It's a behavior in dogs that is basically hard wired into dogs. They are probably not aware of the the behavior or why they do it, they just do it because it seems natural to them. \n\nI used to own three Shelties. The breed is used for herding sheep, but my Shelties never saw a sheep or any other farm animal for that matter. However, they used to do things that resembled behavior that you would see in actual working Shelties on a farm. \n\nI remember my Shelties used to sit together in the back yard during the day. When they sat together, they would each point in a specific direction, with their rears pointing at each other. I found out that this is something that Shelties on a farm would do if they were in a field watching sheep. By sitting together and each pointing in a different direction, they would have a 360 degree view of their surroundings and could spot predator's coming into the field while working as a group.\n\nAlso, when I left the house, sometimes one of the Shelties would nip at my heels as I was leaving. This is something the breed would do if they were working in a field and were trying to keep wondering sheep in line with the rest of the herd.",
"Still really annoyed I cant find the video of ratting I watched years ago where it was just a couple terriers in a barn. And they dove into a pile of hay",
"Fun for the dogs. Necessary for the farmers.",
"Let me introduce you to the wonderful world of hunting, I guess?\n\nYes, people do this kind of stuff for fun.",
"People on reddit are morons so don't expect complexity from them. Anything outside of black/white perspectives are downvoted because it scares people.",
"Grape lady cracked a few ribs on live TV.",
"Rats are mammals, and might have similar ability to experience things as dogs do",
"It's fun to have opinions on things? Why are people taking this so seriously, people get really weird about these things. \n\nIt's okay to have rat hunting dogs!",
"A rat's place in the world includes being prey for predators. Do you begrude an eagle for plucking a salmon from a river?",
"A human tearing up the earth to allow a dozen demi-wolves bred to obey and kill rats for the sheer joy of it isn't natural. You can't compare this to a wild animal doing what it does to survive.\n\nAnd also, of course I begrudge eagles for doing this, don't you pick sides when watching nature documentaries? Usually I get confused when they show the predator's starving young, but I'm still picking sides.",
"My dachshunds would love this game.",
"God, ain't that the truth",
"Reminds you that things like compassion, empathy, being grossed out by some things, are all largely programmed. Children are little sociopaths to start with.",
"/u/stabbot",
"You should try cannabonsai.",
"Just what I need, to make them more hungry.",
"Nature endowed humans with intelligence. Is it not natural to use what nature gave us to its full extent? Everything we do and create is natural. We are subject to the same rules and laws as every other creature.\n\nWhy would you pick sides at all? One day the salmon escapes and the eagle starves. The cycle continues as nature dictates. Where is there any good or evil?",
"Nature gave us a sense of good and evil, us using it is no different than a wolf hunting a rat.\n\nAnd humans haven't been a part of nature for 10000 years, and we've taken over the planet like a rat infestation. The vast majority of mammals that exist right now are humans or farm animals, there's barely any nature left on earth. And after a billion years of life, the next 100 might be the end of it all between pandemics and nuclear warheads. We aren't nature.",
"Lucky you, farm fresh is the best. I’m in Ontario Canada. Apparently it’s been a bad year for rats.",
"Pretty sure there was a terrier club in the Christmas parade a few weeks ago, I’ll give ‘em a call.",
">Why are people taking this so seriously, people get really weird about these things.\n\nPeople are giving you such a hard time because you are trying to flex your moral superiority on anyone not cheering for the rats. \n\nYou can have an opinion without virtue signaling. Looking at animals behaving like animals and trying to pick \"good guys\" and \"bad guys\" is silly.",
"Humans are plenty natural. When you compare how humans act to other animals that no longer have predators keeping their population in control there really isn't that much of a difference. The main difference is you have enough intelligence to have a strong opinion on it. Just look at deer and humans, both are dumb as shit and destroy their environments without a second thought just to reproduce more.",
"it's just thin skinned",
"But humans are a possible extinction event:\n\n>Many other hypotheses have been proposed, such as the spread of a new disease, or simple out-competition following an especially successful biological innovation. But all have been rejected, usually for one of the following reasons: they require events or processes for which there is no evidence; they assume mechanisms which are contrary to the available evidence; they are based on other theories which have been rejected or superseded.\n\nThat means no other organism is known to have caused a mass extinction event much less wiped out all life. But humans could do this.",
"Maybe try to make statements without making sweeping generalizations about people. \n\nYou think you're being morally righteous, but you come off like a condescending kid that doesn't fully understand what they are talking about. \n\nYou **honestly** think someone has weak morals if they don't cheer for the rats?",
"Right, obviously it's fun for the dogs, but the idea that the farmers would waste their precious time doing this for fun is insanely stupid. 1) Farmers are extremely hardworking and do not have time for random rat hunts for fun, 2) Literally nobody hunts rats for fun, and 3) Who on Earth is unaware of how terrible rats can be as pests, and thinks that anyone killing over 700 on their property would just be doing this for *fun*?!",
"If nature gave us a sense of good and evil, then why do so many cultures define those concepts differently, if not in total contradiction to one another? Perhaps nature gave us that ability so that we can form society, but it does not define good or evil.\n\nYou cannot say that we are not a part of nature. We live on this planet and face the same consequences for our actions as other animals. Any animal that grows to the point that it negatively affects its ecosystem will face penalties, usually through starvation, disease, or an influx of predators. Granted, other animals do not have the intelligence to mitigate or negate those consequences like us, but we still face them. Global warming is an extreme example which we are facing, and should we resolve that and continue to grow, we will face another.",
"Right, obviously it's fun for the dogs, but the idea that the farmers would waste their precious time doing this for fun is insanely stupid. 1) Farmers are extremely hardworking and do not have time for random rat hunts for fun, 2) Literally nobody hunts rats for fun, and 3) Who on Earth is unaware of how terrible rats can be as pests, and thinks that anyone killing over 700 on their property would just be doing this for *fun*?!",
"My point isn't that this is done for funsies, the point of my question was to find out if there are more efficient methods than this nowadays. I get that this used to be done and that this definitely used to be the most efficient method, I'm just not sure if farmers still do this because they've done this for hundreds of years, or because it still is the best way to go about this.",
"Read my comment again. I said it’s necessary for the farmers, not fun.",
"It DID. Thanks for asking :-)",
"And the original comment asked if this was for fun. Learn to follow a thread, retard.",
"Arguing about what’s “natural” and “where morals come from”\n\nDoesn’t that seem silly?",
"I don't really know what \"weak morals\" means, do you? It's just a combination of words I put together, any meaning you ascribe to it is on you.",
"If you look in the background, there’s is a building. It’s a giant chicken coop that can be hoisted and moved.",
"Googling “Mink Man” will take you down quite the rabbit (rat?) hole. He’s very informative and educational in his videos. Basically, rats can learn to avoid traps and poisons. Doing frequent hunts with dogs (and in his case, minks!) to dwindle populations is the only way.",
"Oh my bad for assuming you form sentences with meaning. I should have assumed you have no idea what you’re talking about from the get go."
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"And everyone gets their 15 second of tantrum in the spotlight. I get so tired of these people.",
"Kicked off? He should be arrested and banned from flying for life. Quit mollycoddling these obnoxious, infantile, bastards.",
"Oh look another plague rat bitching and playing the victim, so tired of these piss ass fucks.",
"Someone procreated a moron...",
"Godbless Florida for producing such wonders!"
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Florida man gets kicked off flight with a underwear mask, compares himself to Rosa Parks
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https://youtu.be/x73PkUvArJY
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"The season of Task Master with James Acaster is the best season of a show ever.",
"What the UK did to India was just devastatingly awful.",
"I’m not going to agree with you on the the best season part. But what I will say is, watching James have a breakdown at Rhod during some of the team tasks was brilliant television.",
"Oh, sure. The Elgin Marbles were bought.\n\nExcept they weren’t. Thomas Bruce claimed he had a firman from the Ottoman Empire (who were in control of Greece at the time) saying he could visit them and document the marbles. \n\nWhen he was challenged, he couldn’t find the firman. Neither could the Ottoman Empire. \n\nAnd even if he could have produced this mysterious permission slip, it only allowed him access to the Greek sites. Bruce didn’t even claim it gave him permission to loot the artefacts. \n\nHe instead claimed he had a second firman that allowed him to ship the marbles to Britain. Again, this second firman could not be found. \n\nThe issue went to Parliament and, shorty after, the Marbles were gifted to the British Museum. Thomas Bruce dodging further legal issues by granting the state ownership of the looted artefacts.",
"That is an exceedingly poor argument.",
"All of this sounds incredibly familiar.\nThe whole premise, the responses and the punchlines..\n\nMaybe I watched this 2 years ago \n¯\\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯",
"from a month old account\n\n\nMUST DEFEND WHITE IMPERIALISM AT ALL COSTS",
"It’s bizarre because I don’t remember those countries being “3rd world” before the British empire got to their shores. \nI wonder who was it that drowned countries in poverty & hunger by looting every last penny they could and starving the population into becoming a “3rd world country”.\n\nLol I can see from the downvotes that people are triggered by the truth.",
"One can also argue if modern peoples can really claim ownership of anything that existed from pre-modern times. Ancient relics my tell you the history of a certain region but the people and culture of that modern region are not the same as that history. The modern peoples are just outsiders that currently live a specific region. Had they been spacial outsiders (moving from one region to another) we would not consider them a part of the settled region, but since modern peoples are temporal outsiders they are viewed as more legitimate despite still having very little to do with the ancient culture of that region. Also if you try to make the argument that the modern culture of a region has been directly influenced by the ancient culture and thus a cultural link is present and offers legitimacy, then that doesn't remove all the issues like in conflicts between Great Britain and any Mediterranean nation as Great Britain could only exist due to the influences of the ancient Mediterranean cultures. Another kink in the idea of giving modern peoples ownership over ancient culture is that it opens the argument up to work the other way around. By allowing modern peoples to claim ownership of specific culture from a region that the modern is occupying then an argument can also be made that the modern peoples should also be given everything that their ancient culture also possessed, even if it is land that is part of another group of modern peoples.",
"This is literally saying, \"You can't be trusted with your own property. I'll keep it for you.\"\n\n\"I can't give this homeless guy his iPhone back. It might get destroyed or stolen.\"\n\n\"I can't let this old lady keep her jewelry, she might die tomorrow.\"\n\nThe list of hyperbole goes on.",
"And Ireland. Still fuckin over Ireland",
"So you agree to return them to the stable countries?",
"Are you seriously claiming the people who built the Taj Mahal, the Brihadisvara Temple, Hawa Mahal, the Khajuraho Monuments, and many other architectural wonders, wrote the Ramayana and the Mahabharata and have a history of hundreds of works of literature and philosophy, had knowledge of and used complex mathematical systems, had a working knowledge of astronomy as good as, if not better than Europeans, and so on and so on weren't civilized?\n\nWhy?",
"They were poor before.",
"think that all came after our boys showed up yweah",
"“Finders keepers, shut up” is one of my favorite random daily things to say",
"India was literally the most revered, richest and advanced country in the world. \n\nTheir conscious/ spiritual culture was something we won't see in the west for hundreds of years. Then the British came and stole literally trillions and caused millions of people to due of starvation, destroyed their culture and left them impoverished.",
"Try doing some research on that.",
"Khaled al-Asaad, head of antiquities at Palmyra who was publicly beheaded by ISIL then hung from a traffic light with his head placed below his feet for refusing to hand over the hidden locations of \"false idols\" might beg to differ. Also, did we just forget about the \"cultural revolution\" of China who's actual stated aim was to purge traditional Chinese society and culture?\n\n&nbsp;\n\nNot saying the argument is complete as it stands. There's valid nuances to it like, \"Does the current state actually represent the culture of the historic state that produced the relics or were they themselves conquerors?\". However, to pretend that destruction of artifacts in unstable countries doesn't happen is intellectually dishonest. It's pretty much check box #2 on the \"We own this now\" list after \"Kill all the political elites that disagree\".",
"I think it would be quicker to list the countries we *didn't* majorly fuck over in some way.",
"Skinny-fat dipshit with bunch of posts in several herpes subs lmao real tough guy.",
"Actually I specifically chose examples of things that existed long before the British entered the Indian subcontinent. Most of those things happened/existed before the Battle of Hastings and some of them, such as the writing of the Ramayana happened before the Anglos met the Saxons. Try again.",
"I accept defeat",
"heyyy why are pyramids in Egypt?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>!because they didn't fit in a British museum!<",
"It feels like far from being actually critical at their history, a lot of these jokes by british comedians seem to actually reminiscent of \"what was\" than \"what is\". Britain's claim to great power status has obviously dramatically declined, and with Brexit in 2016, I have been hearing more and more British influencers feel like they need to remind people of their predominance. \n\nBut not so much that it irks people, just enough so it can still be guised as jokes...",
"No, I can confidently say they were poor before.",
"> The country is definitely recovering though at an incredible rate.\n\nDefinitely, especially considering they decided to go it alone and didn't take advantage of the decolonisation aid that most other Commonwealth nations have had.",
"Ay we all gotta start somewhere lmao",
"Right fucking loser with herpes lmao o wait that’s me",
"You're right. A list with zero entries is much quicker to list.",
"Come on now, the French gave as good as they got.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_Jail",
"I believe something like 9 seasons of Taskmaster are available on YouTube. If you're curious what it's about, this task has James in it, and gives a pretty good idea.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/nsatommddHU",
"Then you did a poor job, because the East India Company was incorporated in 1600, while the Taj Mahal was built by 1653.",
"see also: Hobby Lobby",
"The special came out three years ago, so it's likely possible.",
"Can you explain?",
"Thanks?",
"1 down, 7,593 to go!",
"Then you just outed your ignorance.",
"I think they're talking about Hobby Lobby's Hamurabi [robbing hobby](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby_Lobby_smuggling_scandal)",
"**[Hobby Lobby smuggling scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby_Lobby_smuggling_scandal)** \n \n >The Hobby Lobby smuggling scandal started in 2009 when representatives of the Hobby Lobby chain of craft stores received a large number of clay bullae and tablets originating in the ancient Near East. The artifacts were intended for the Museum of the Bible, funded by the Evangelical Christian Green family, which owns the Oklahoma-based chain. Internal staff had warned superiors that the items had dubious provenance and were potentially looted from Iraq.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"The thing about the Taj Mahal is that, by human standards, it really is quite recent. Only 400 years. (Call that 1x).\n\nWe have to go back 1.5 times that far from 1650 to get to the Ellora caves (600AD-1000AD).\n\nThen 2x again from Ellora, to get to the Ajantha caves (200BC-500AD).\n\nThen go back 5x from there to get to Harappa etc.",
"This comment is somehow in controversial?",
"Sorry, that wasn't directly to you. I should've clarified that it was for anyone who saw your comment and didn't know what it was about.",
"Ok then let's steal everybody else's stuff for safe keeping. \n\nYou are cherry picking examples, and I could do the same on the other side. \n\nCan you agree on general principles that a country shouldn't colonize other countries and steal the prime examples of their cultural heritage?",
"So woke",
"You really think influencers have any bearing on modern day politics?",
"Two words: Joe Motherfucking Wilkinson",
">Still fuckin over Ireland\n\nAs if.",
"They’re all great. This latest season was phenomenal. \n\nI’m looking forward to Big Fat Quiz!",
"pues chido",
"I thought the last season was the worst. I thought only Jamali was any good.",
"Oh really?! Oh I thought they were all fantastic but especially Morgana and ~~Jamali~~ it’s Guz Khan but I also think Victoria was a gem. \n\nHer riding a bike for the first time was priceless. I think I’ll be able to watch this upcoming season live via VPN which I’m excited about.\n\nEdit: I feel very stupid, one of those days haha. I even combined Gillian Anderson and Cillian Murphy’s names together today",
"Strong argument",
"What part of what i said made you think I was talking about politics? But about that, influencers, British politicians, comedians etc etc should stop pretending that Britain is an important global power with predominance in world affairs. That may be a hard pill to swallow. So instead back to joking and \"criticizing\" about the \"what was\".",
"I don’t think you had to clarify that, the commenter could’ve figured that out.",
"Best taskmaster compilation is James ignoring Alex - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaPgDM1fCPg",
"Sorry, did I wake up in a world where Northern Irish politics aren’t still split on the basis of religion, which was decided on whether you were a British Protestant planter, or a native Irish Catholic? Or are you just full of shit?\n\nIf the old school issues of colonisation and plantation don’t cut it, there’s the feeding frenzy for politics of division that Brexit has sowed between Ireland and Northern Ireland. Trying to reinstitute border crossings is putting lives at risk, and pretending it’s not, or British government actions have no effect, make you clueless or a troll.",
"Idk if the best but easily one of the best ones. Honestly I think that it speaks to the quality of Taskmaster when even the weak series have memorable moments.",
"Nah, series 9 was the worst.",
"It's cute when people try to project their moral compass of how to behave with other individual people in their small social circle onto cultures of billions of people spanning centuries with all manner of political unrest and contentious ambiguities.\n\nSimilar to when people hear about a country being in debt and equate it to their experience of being overdrawn in their personal bank account. \n\nI know it's your only frame of reference but it's a massive oversimplification and quite frankly does not apply.",
"I mean, just to play Devils advocate here. You could argue that preserving the heritage of humanity is more important than the national pride of some of these countries. \n\nSpecifically the Middle East at the moment. Dozens of incredibly historical and important ruins and artifacts have been blown up by ISIS. Egypt and Lybia are destabilized and in various states of conflict. And India’s sectarian tensions are at a high point. \n\nIt may be “right” to give these items back, but they are one of a kind objects, and once they are gone they are gone. Period. \n\nNow you could say that the British empire started all of this conflict in the first place. And you would be right to an extent. But again what’s “right” and “fair” does not always match up with what is practical and pragmatic. \n\nWhen it comes to guarding the history of humanity as a whole, decisions become harder than just respecting nationalistic ideals. You may want to look at who has the national stability, governmental organization, academic expertise, materials, and budget to take care of these priceless materials.\n\nWhen you take these things into account, at least in a pragmatic sense, it is harder to make the decisions to give these things away just because you took them without asking 150 years ago.\n\nI’m not British, so I have no real say in the matter. But I am a history enthusiast. And I can’t help but be grateful that so many of these items were in the British museum when the Middle East exploded into violence a decade ago that continues to this day. And when I see how much has been destroyed, I cannot help but wish that more was taken from there.",
"Firstly, if you are English or live in England then you absolutely have connections to England's past. Your entire existence and way of life is built on the actions of past England.\n\nSecondly, if you don't want to be associated with the acts of theft of the past then give the artifacts and stolen relics back to the countries they were taken from.",
"He said Ireland, not Northern Ireland. Ireland is a separate country, which is no more under the UK's influence than France is. And as per the Good Friday agreement, they can reunify any time they want. What more can the UK do? Kick Northern Ireland out of the union?",
"To answer your first point, you're referring to Britains role on the world stage (politics) and the comments of influencers on that, so thats why i brought it up.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nSecondly, the UK is absolutely an important world power with predominence in global affairs. I suspect you're going to argue semantics regarding how much prominence, so I doubt we'll reach any agreement there. \n\nWhat qualifies a global power? Military? Economy? Cultural influence? Soft power? No doubt the UK is not a superpower as it once was, which anyone with a fucking brain can see, but it is a global power.",
"There is an amazing, surprisingly bingeworthy podcast on this subject called Stuff The British Stole:\n\nhttps://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/stuff-the-british-stole/",
"Isn't that the whole point of an influencer? To influence people?",
"Generations worth of wealth was stolen from India and other British colonies. This has a compounding effect and is one of the reasons your tiny island is one of the biggest economies in the world.",
"White man's burden. This is the kind of bullshit argument that was used for colonizing other countries.\n\nNobody's gives a shit about all the Art and Architecture destroyed in European wars. But war and violence anywhere else suddenly means the benevolent protectors have to step in.",
"In this case he probably meant anybody in mainstream culture who has a following, but I assumed he meant you're average social media face",
"Such a great contestant. Shame about that one heartbreaking moment he had, though.",
"All your good points aside, you could argue there might be far more stability in many of these countries had England previously, and America more recently, acted as an ally to many of these countries. \n\nInstead of trading for mutual gain the west has looked to destabilize and pillage many impoverished nations for centuries. It's no wonder they don't have political stability much less the ability to carefully caretake their priceless relics.",
"That team task when he spray painted a garage door was absolutely brilliant.",
"I couldn't stand Victoria. I feel she was of the worst contestants...... EVER. Or at least up there with some of the lamest",
"Saddest moment in television history 😢",
"Yea that was lame. But I thought Jo Brand was good and the rest were simply OK.",
"I found it a bit average, was worth a watch though.",
"As far as getting something into a hole goes, [this is my favorite task](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgSDcHPgCc).",
"There's a whole Egyptian temple in the Met. Some asshole named Leonardo carved his name into it in 1820.",
"I was hoping someone would post this! Super well done podcast. Each episode is a combination mystery and history lesson. Hope there is another season in the works … they don’t seem to be short of examples.",
"Give me some examples of when it is okay to occupy a country and take their most important artworks. They might have felt it was okay at the time - the white man's burden and all that. But that time should be over, or so you disagree.",
"> what more can the UK do?\n\nCease everything they currently propose which jeopardises that agreement? Thanks for explaining that NI and Ireland are different though, I was really scratching my head at that one. By the way the UK do barely anything to support infrastructural growth and lapse their own involvement in what’s supposedly part of their union, it seems they’re confused too.",
"Nobody gives a shit about all of the art and architecture destroyed in European wars? Really?",
"> and I could do the same on the other side. \n\nPlease do.\n\n>Can you agree on general principles that a country shouldn't colonize other countries and steal the prime examples of their cultural heritage?\n\nYes, but the question is in keeping them, and why.",
"You have directly benefited from those actions and there are people who have directly suffered from them\n\nYour dad steals 1M dollars from Jerry. Your dad died and leaves you 1M dollars. You build your life on that 1M dollars and give your kids incredible opportunity. Your kids are incredibly successful. Jerry’s grandchildren live in poverty. In this situation it’s not your kids’ fault, but to say that they have no connection to those crimes is disingenuous.\n\nBritain is an incredibly rich country that provides its citizens with incredible opportunity compared to the vast majority of places on earth. A lot of that wealth was built on a foundation of theft. It’s true that you didn’t “do” anything, it’s true that I didn’t “do” anything, but somebody did and then I reaped the benefits to the detriment of someone else. I don’t have the answers but pretending that there’s no connection is just sticking fingers in ears",
"I don’t think he gets to make that decision fam…",
"I think you're blurring seasons together here. Jamali was S11, Morgana and Victoria were S12",
"His existence has zero effect on what the people of the past is done and he deserves none of the blame for it. He has a connection. The connection is, he benefitted from it\" The connection is not \"They both raped and pillaged half the world.\"\n\nAlso, I don't think this guy has any more ability to give any of that stuff back than you do.",
"Most recent example is that the gallery at the British Museum that contains the Parthenon marbles has had repeated and ongoing problems with leaks. I think they would be sheet at the Parthenon museum in Athens.\n\nAlso you could use the example of stolen art from occupations during WWII.\n\nIf it's a question over keeping them, when countries want their stuff back it should be an obligation for museums to do that. Who is going to be the judge of which countries deserve to have them back? You? Me? There is no good answer.",
"Fully agree",
"That doesn't change the fact the he isn't part of the \"we\" that violently took over the world. He is the \"we\" from decades later that benefited from them. He is wrong to say there is NO connection, but it isn't a connection that is his doing/choice and he can't be blamed for the evil of his ancestors, which people like to do. HE didn't majorly fuck up most, or possibly any, countries.",
"Maybe they are just mistaking Guz Khan for Jamali?",
"someone didnt put the sugar in his cereal this morning",
"The best description of the british empire is \n\n\"man conquers world looking for new and exciting spices, only to decide he doesnt like any of them\"",
"It would be great if one of those countries stole the crown jewels and then just openly put them in a museum.",
"That stuff is definitely protected and preserved as best we can.",
"I didn't say they deserve blame. I just pointed out exactly what you said, that they continue to benefit. But if they continue to benefit today from raping and pillaging half the world (your words) in the past, do you not think that they should in the very least give back what was stolen?",
"Those are good examples. Especially w.r.t. Greece, I don't think anyone considers Greece as an especially volatile territory.\n\n>when countries want their stuff back it should be an obligation for museums to do that. \n\nSeriously: Why is it their stuff? I'm not saying it's England's stuff either.\nIf anything it is part of our world heritage.\n\nYes, I also find it more fun to have stuff closer to where they came from.\nI don't like that one country gets to earn money on the objects and be the center of research on them.\n\nI don't think that national pride should really be what we think of here.\nI'm sure many of these objects would have been destroyed or looted *back then* by a neighboring tribe in the current country :-).",
"Yup. High-minded bullshit that's comparable to people who argue that the slaves should've been thankful for having work, food, and housing.",
"*What did the British ever do for us?!*",
"Let me guess you are from the UK? I would like to iterate that not being a global power doesnt mean irrelevance. Britain can still be relevant, but it wont be if it still pretends it has predominance in global affairs.\n\nBrexit further erodes British power in a global context. I think too many British have equated their own self esteem with past glories, hanging on to fantasies and not reality would be more detrimental to Britain than the rest of the world.",
"Why aren't their anymore gold on top of the pyramids? Because they could be taken",
"Oof, another one from the UK? Figures. Nothing I said isn't true. The Brits love to use comedy to remind themselves of their past glories. More of a fantasy now.",
">do you not think that they should in the very least give back what was stolen?\n\nWho is 'they'? Everyday British citizens? What power do 'they' have in this?",
"Nothing to say a country can't loan their artistic works for the world to see. I think that's important, but it should be there choice.",
"I think the stuff should be given back ( perhaps with the exception of giving it to a place where it would get destroyed due to current turmoil, but that's a different issue). This guy's main point was that WE (he and others living today) should not need blamed. THEY ( our ancestors) should be blamed. The person he replied to said \"we\", but \"we\" didn't do it, \"they\" did. \n\nHe is wrong to say there is no connection, there is, and \"we\" have a responsibility to clean up \"their\" mess. We don't have a responsibility to shoulder the blame for it.",
"Al Murray has a good bit where he asks the audience to name any country on the planet and he tells them how and when the British Empire fucked that country over",
"> White man's burden. This is the kind of bullshit argument that was used for colonizing other countries.\n\n\"Just to play devil's advocate here - lots of countries seem to be in an abysmal state these days. Wouldn't it be for the best if we just went on in and took over management for a bit?\" /s",
"You're trying really hard to frame it in a way that makes sense to you, and I get that. Your flatmate Steve bought a new mug yesterday and you know that's his mug. It would be wrong for you to take that mug.\n\n\"Now just imagine Steve is the Byzantine empire circa 400AD and the mug is the City of Jerusalem. Surely we can all agree it was wrong for the Persians to take it from them. Jerusalem should be returned to the Byzantines\".\n\nSorry mate, it's not that simple.",
"That was the moment that convinced me to watch the show.",
"The country of England. It should be glaringly obvious based on the context of this entire post. Did you watch the video even?",
"How about in the last 500 years or so.",
"Nothing to disagree with here.",
"Probably in my top 5 of all time.",
"he has a podcast with David Earl called chatabix btw",
"Yep. That’s it and very embarrasing",
"Greek here, so we’re good then getting all our statues back yeh?",
"Yeah, I’m being dumb.",
"Was it okay for Schliemann to take what he did from Troy and Mycenae? You can talk about ancient wars and looting, I'm talking about how recent colonization and more recent outright thefts and the general removal of items by people on the Grand tour back in the day.\n\nFor a lot of this stuff there are actual answers.",
"Well you clearly don’t love a laminator!",
"I'm not talking about the entire post, I'm referencing the current comment thread. That should be glaringly obvious. \n\nWith the other individual, you were discussing the dynamics of blame and benefit for the everyday British citizen. \n\nPersonally, I'm not sure why you're attaching the crimes of ancestry to the modern day citizen. But as you are, I ask again, what do you practically expect them to do about it?",
"I absolutely love James Acaster",
"And miss out on free karma?",
"500 or so? Why not 120 or so? No one is alive to remember anything before then anyway. Let's just draw a line in the sand at 1900 and call it a day.\n\nOr is my arbitrary decision on where to make the cut-off inferior to your arbitrary decision on where to make the cut-off?\n\n\\- Look, I suspect you're just going to keep wriggling on this regardless of what I say. The fact is it is far more complex and/or ambiguous than you're making it out to be. I understand why you want your simple intuition to apply, but it doesn't.",
"I just feel she didn't vibe with the show? I didn't find it very sweet when she couldn't propose to Alex. But yea... Nothing else",
"not british no. love your use of stereotype\n\nbritish comedy is actually the most self critical and dark comedy there is.\n\nsad little clown, you would fit in pretty well",
"Are you a David Mitchell fan?",
"Its not ok to occupy a nation and loot important artworks. And that time is over? I don't see any world wars or imperialism outside of China's economic \"aid\" in Africa. Also many items and artworks have been returned to there nation of origin. But don't be blind to the facts on the ground in many of these nations. What ISIS did to ancient Roman ruins makes my fucking blood boil. That is our history, billions of people can tie there ancestry to some person who lived within the Roman Empire/Republic. Or when the Taliban destroyed 100 foot tall statuses of Buddha in Afghanistan. This isn't someone white man burden shit. This is history and you have groups of people all over the world who don't respect or don't want, or are unable to protect human history.",
"I did not blame anyone in any comment. The original comment I replied to said that there was no connection between the current British people and the British of the past. This is false as I stated.",
"That's being deliberately pedantic. Let's start with the low hanging fruit. There is plenty of that",
"I'll cop to that one, since I was thinking of 1857 when British government officially took rule over India, and not when they were simply operating a business there. It doesn't detract from my ultimate point however, as the British had nothing to do with building it.",
"Then you had no business correcting the English person who said \"we\" in the first place. They were never talking about you to begin with.",
"\"Saying hello to Alex isn't part of the task\"",
"You may have taken the treasures of the ancient world but at least you gave them soccer, am I right?",
"He was fantastic on \"Mock the week\"",
"I ask cause they’re married and I think their humor is very similar.",
"'I didn't say they deserve blame. I just pointed out exactly what you said, that they continue to benefit. But if they continue to benefit today from raping and pillaging half the world (your words) in the past, do you not think that they should in the very least give back what was stolen?'\n\nThis is the reply I'm confused about. You don't blame individuals, but you believe that as 'they continue to benefit' they should give back what 'they' stole? How do they have any power in this situation? \n\nThe confusion lies in your usage of 'they'. As 'they' don't deserve blame, you must be referring to modern day individuals. Thus, If 'they' refers to the British populace, then I'm really not sure what you expect from them.",
"Nah we still looking at them mate",
"The world isn’t gonna be. \n\nHave you watched Mandy? He’s in an episode and is great(duh).",
"There's a fair point that in at least some cases there's a legitimate point to be raised that between security standards and political stability in some parts of the world returning plundered artifacts may not be the wisest idea, and the preservation of history is dramatically more important than scoring short term political points.\n\n\nOtherwise it's brute policy. If the museums allow it in one situation it blows open the doors for *all* situations.",
"The problem is that the original owners and their heirs are long dead. There isn't anyone legitimate to return it to.",
"Only if the UK can bill Germany for them.",
"If I get pulled over and the cops say the car I am driving was stolen it doesn't mean I stole the car and it doesn't mean I was to blame for driving a stolen car but if I don't surrender the car I am now guilty of the same crime.\n\nThe British museum should give back whatever goods were stolen from the people they were stolen from. The fact that they have been asked to and refused makes them complicit for the same crimes of theft.\n\nI can understand that there is nuance and not every instance is cut and dry but there has never been an attempt to make things right or even begin the process. Just a stonewall NO.",
"You can still educate yourself and try to do better than they did. If you are benefiting from it then you can share with those who were harmed. Pretending you can/should do nothing is just lazy and or selfish.",
"\"Things people they didn't know did.\" You missed the whole part of the video where we know who did it, everyone knows who did it, there's books and university courses about it. Plus, you can use the same argument for all the people who had their shit stolen. They didn't choose to be born somewhere that a bunch of people would decide to plunder. So give the shit back. Would love to see someone with your mindset have to go through the generational trauma.",
"It's an anti-colonial thing. I'm Canadian. I didn't kill any native peoples or enslave any Africans but I can't pretend that my society wasn't built on the backs of those and other atrocities and I won't stand in the way of attempts to make right those injustices when the opportunity is there.",
">doesn't mean I was to blame for driving a stolen car but if I don't surrender the car I am now guilty of the same crime.\n\nBut you can surrender the car. The British public can't surrender artefacts.\n\nI don't know who has control over the British Museum, but it's certainly not the average lad from down the estate.",
"On the other hand, you're arguing with a stand up comedy routine, not a TED talk..",
"It’s a Diane Morgan show: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10692232/ \n\nAnd I haven’t a clue :/.",
"Hurr durr I'll write to my representatives, telling them that we should give back stolen artifacts",
"This was four minutes with like one semi joke.\n\nThe premise has a lot of potential but he goes nowhere with it.",
"How does that relate to giving back the Parthenon marbles or the Benin bronzes or Maori sculptures taken illegally? I hate regressive regimes as much as anybody, but that is not the issue we are talking about. The Taliban are not asking for Buddhist objects back so they can blow them up.",
"That's a defeatist attitude. When people care about an issue they can make a difference and force change. Most people just don't care enough and having a dismissive attitude only further enables the issue to be swept under the rug.",
"They should start a war to get those items back",
"\"People they don't know\" = \"I am absolved from my responsibility because I did not personally meet the person who shackled me with this responsibility.\" \n\nYour dismissal of generational trauma tells me what I need to know lol.",
"When I said the British empire started all of this in the first place. I meant that as a catch all for all the meddling the west has done in these countries. \n\nIt’s not right or fair. But now that it has been done. It does not change the current facts about the condition of these countries. \n\nThe west should aknowledge its part in the mess. but to return the objects now would be to throw these precious items into a dumpsterfire that they helped create. it would not, in the end, help anyone much and put a great risk on these items that, some of which are in many ways just as intigral the history of western civilization as they are to the individual storys of the nations they came from.",
"This is such a god awful dumb take. It's just another form of imperialism, where the powerful and developed countries decide what's best for the developing countries. What a ridiculous notion that you can set a standard of care over someone else's property that they must adhere to in order to get their stuff back. It's *their stuff*. It's theirs to keep, guard and if it happens, lose. Just because you as an interested party would like the stuff kept as best as possible, doesn't mean that such a standard is valid. It's not \"heritage of humanity\", it's someone else's culture. Making it \"all our stuff\" is just another form of appropriation.\n\nAnd why does this \"heritage of humanity\" only apply to appropriated cultural objects? Why not all? In that case, let's transfer formal ownership to a collectively controlled international organization that decides where what items are displayed and under what conditions. Right now your thinking is just a one way street. If it's collective heritage, then we should act like that as well and developed nations should yield control of their own important cultural artifacts as well. \n\nAnd I mean, what happens if someone blows up the British museum? There's no guarantee these items are safe there. Can you imagine the fallout if that happens? Took your stuff, told you you couldn't have it back because you're not responsible enough to keep it and then lose it yourself. This scenario shows how absurd your reasoning is. You cannot take responsibility of that which isn't yours.",
"OP addressed this. Hindsight is 20/20. \n\nWhat’s practical and pragmatic, is not necessarily what some people might deem fair.\n\nI would much rather prefer that priceless artifacts that hold a significance to the history of humanity are safely protected for future generations by well-funded experts in stable nations than allow them to remain in unstable countries with no apparatus to protect or maintain them, where they could fall into decrepitude or be destroyed by barbarians like ISIL.\n\nEngland and America’s previous behavior, however awful, shouldn’t influence the prerogative and responsibility we hold to preserve and protect the artifacts of history.",
"He also did a great one called Gossipmongers with him, which shat the bed when they booted off their co-host [Poppy Hillstead for no real reason](https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2020/09/14/46903/ousted_from_her_own_podcast%21), which has somewhat tainted both of them for me. Shame, because it was awesome.",
"Closest I can think for UK historic heirlooms in other countries would be the bayeux tapestry. Which only may have been made in England and is now in France.",
"I agree in principal but it's disheartening to see that the response from from British has been mostly a blanket no instead of a plan to work with restoring historical artifacts to those countries who are more than capable of preserving them.",
"You assume I am not a Land Back campaigner, of course I absolutely believe all nations that took land from natives should give all of that land back. \nI'm Mexican but I live in America, and I am very acutely aware of America's sins against people of color. \nIt doesn't matter if you think the argument is stupid, the fact that you have to do so much reaching and make so many assumptions about me says that you actually fully understand what I mean, you're just arguing in bad faith.",
"> That doesn't change the fact the he isn't part of the \"we\" \n\nif you keep stolen wealth(including money from selling it) you are a part of the we.",
"It's really stuff the English stole - and some of it from the British too.",
"Gimme kiss",
"Those aren’t refutations of the point.",
"Generational trauma is a made up phrase with zero scientific backing.",
"That's what people say about climate change and coronavirus so I'm not necessarily inclined to just take your word on that...\n\nWhat indigenous group do you come from?",
"The goal has never been destabilization. You have no clue what these areas would have been like either way.",
"Have you ever met a British person?",
"That's true if you think that India suddenly sprang into being in 1850.",
"There's quite a few things the Chinese would like back as well.\n\nI always enjoy the smug \"well, the colonies can't have their culture back until they get their act together!\" crowd. Like why do you think those places are so fucked up?\n\n\"Oh gosh, look at that, this ancient palace has suddenly burst into flames, we better protect these important cultural artifacts by putting them on our boats and taking them to Britain for 400 years. We'll leave a receipt though so once the locals have grown up and become civilized they can definitely have their stuff back.\"",
"They bought those a couple of years after they went up in an explosion, they didn't buy them all and actually gave a load back.",
"You're right. The goal was the plundering and the destabilization was only the method.",
"You launch into arguing against a point that I did not make",
">The British public can't surrender artefacts.\n\nThey (we) can overwhelmingly be in favour of it, making not giving them back very politically unpopular. Which could then easily lead to giving them back.",
"Other than, say, another museum or university from the area the items were taken from.",
"I believe that was the Persians doing who's descendants now live there, though chances are some of that gold got turned into things that was then stolen by the British later.",
"Yea I love him. Read his book and everything.",
"That is a complete exaggeration and misrepresentation of what I was saying. I have never been for international intervention in any nation. I specifically acknowledged the mess that the British empire made of many of these countries, and do not condone colonialism or racism.\n\nThis is specifically about items that are one of a kind, and incredibly important not just to the history of an individual nation or people, but to the cultural history of humanity as a whole. AND are already in the best museum in the world. So with that lens in place, would you rather have an item like that in an area racked with civil war and factions bent on blowing up historical sites, or in THE most secure and expertly run museum in the world?\n\nI don’t think the British Museum should keep everything that was taken, or that every country that items were taken from is in a disastrous state. All I’m saying is that we should think of the preservation of the item above all other concerns. Politics comes and goes. But In the end, as I’ve said, these items are important to everyone and one of a kind.\n\n[In regards to your second paragraph](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monuments,_Fine_Arts,_and_Archives_program)",
"Yea I know. I don't think her humor worked here. I like Alan Davies... But he didn't work for me either on taskmaster.",
"I think poppy did something kinda fucked up in a personal, private way to Joe and David. \n\nJoe actually seems kinda molested by the whole thing :/",
"Haha. Germany paid reparations for decades and has laws against Nazism, the country is \"doing better\" by being aware of their mistakes and owning up to them in the modern day. \n\nEducate yourself on who you vote for, the British empire wasn't some abstract thing, it was supported by the British people. The UK government supports regimes in the current day that murder their own people for resources and power, did you know that?\n\nProducts you almost certainly have bought are made in factories and facilities that run on near slave labour, but of course that doesn't count because that system was set up before you were born, so you can make use of it now guilt free, right?",
"Egyptian government got back many artifacts from the British. And in 2011 many artifacts were destroyed or stolen and resold on the black-market and now exist in private collections. Same thing happened in Libya with the Italian government.",
"Naw that’s totally fair. \n\nI may not agree but I respect your opinion! I can def agree that their humor works better in other panel shows.",
"They didn't even have the decency to declare war either they just slowly bit by bit gained influence through trade deals, mercenary \"protection\" service and all kinds of round about ways.",
"Hmmmm.",
"So that's Egypt's problem.",
"wow that was not funny at all",
"Also I didn't reply to your comment about the Parthenon marbles. I was making a general statement about antiquities. Yea should some items be returned sure, just be selective about it.",
"Are you high?\nStarting to think you wouldnt recognize a punchline if it hit you in the face. \nYou watched 4min of a video where people laugh about evry 10 seconds and you go. \"This is going nowhere\".\nYou might not like his type of humor, thats totaly fine. But if you cant tell that there are multiple jokes in this story. You might want to go back to watching tic toc comedians.",
"Yeah, when a friend recommended it to me I was a bit meh because I didn’t think I’d find it interesting at all. Then when I finally listened, I finished the series in like two days.",
">Your argument is stupid.\n\nu/glurtle_skletch actually has the clear moral high ground. The fact that Brits alive today live their whole lives benefiting from the crimes of Empire is not in dispute. We definitely do. You're angry because it's being pointed out and because people *really* hate being told they're doing (or benefiting from) something wrong or unfair etc. \n\nThe good news for us is: fuck all is going to happen in the near future because the moral high ground is mostly worthless. Might makes right. Can those countries we fucked over come and take back their shit? No? Then they can't have it back, the end. Is Canada or Australia etc. going to give any of the valuable land back to the indigenous people? Nope. \n\nOn a longer timescale, though, probably at least a few of the groups that got screwed will be in a position to do something about it. They might even be in a position to fuck us over, and some of our great great great great great grandchildren will be oppressed and cheated out of their assets, lands etc. due to people from another country being more powerful than they are. And then those descendants will be mad because someone stole their shit, and those who stole their shit won't care and the cycle will just keep going. \n\nHumans care about other people and the wrongs done to them up to the point where we personally have to give something up that we don't want to give up (land, money, resources etc.). One day, someone will do you a wrong and it will be a real wrong but you won't get compensated for it and you won't get an apology and you'll just have to swallow getting fucked because someone else is more powerful than you are. It may already have happened. And when it does, or if it already has, you should keep in mind that, given the opportunity to even express understanding of the consequences when they happened to someone else, you didn't.",
"That's the point. Who gets to be selective about them. There is no good answer, so I default to the government of where they were stolen from.",
"Love James Acaster! Love his [Off menu podcast](https://www.offmenupodcast.co.uk/) as well. Currently on episode 104 and am the proud owner of a \"Poppadoms or Bread!?\" Mug :)",
"The British did straight up start all these conflicts and actively kept these conflicts alive for the last century.",
">I honestly don't care. \n\nI know you don't care. You don't care because *it didn't happen to you.* You, like 99% of humanity (myself included), are a moral simpleton. Did it happen to someone else? Don't care, fuck you.\n\nIt's like i said, though. One day you'll get fucked, and then you'll get really, really angry when there's no redress for getting fucked (and I mean 'getting fucked' in the 'getting my wallet stolen' sense, not the 'my life chances and those of all my children and their children and so on actively fucked over' sense), and you won't understand that you've forfeited your right to sympathy and understanding by refusing to give it when you were on the other side of the equation.\n\nWe are as a species utterly incapable of getting over ourselves. Have a nice day, Tiber415 from the internet.",
"> Indian democracy?\n\n> -Well *obviously* Indian democracy. I mean, that goes without saying! \n\n> A stable economy in Nigeria? \n\n> -Alright, other than Indian democracy and the Nigerian economy, *what did the British ever do for us?!*\n\n> The American colonies and the subsequent creation of The US Constitution? \n\n> -God damn it! Well, if you're going to bring *that* up!",
"Just keep them Britain. You gotta have at least something to remember you of the times, when you where a world power.",
"Than risk losing priceless pieces when that government is overthrown? Because that has happened one to many times.",
"To be fair, it has worked very well so far.",
"I meant all Ireland. I'm not a partitionist.1",
"It's ok mate I'm with you. Fuck the down votes 11",
"So don't send anything back. Germany took tons of stuff, Italy too, them had fascist revolutions and started a world war. You would hold things back from everywhere.",
"> I mean, just to play Devils advocate here. You could argue that preserving the heritage of humanity is more important than the national pride of some of these countries. \n\nBut the fact that you think Europeans would be the ones to take care of such a great responsibility is INSANE, maybe moronic? I don't know of a more violent group of countries.",
"Me too, luckily by the time I saw it they were just finishing up season 10, so I binged the whole lot in a few weeks.",
"> It’s not right or fair. But now that it has been done. It does not change the current facts about the condition of these countries. \n\nI assume this is going to be the future excuse, like America's response to the opioid addicts.\n\n\n>some of which are in many ways just as intigral the history of western civilization as they are to the individual storys of the nations they came from.\n\nThat's really what's going on. Europe doesn't have that old history besides things like stonehedge, so they're clinging on to others history. It's basically cultural appropriation on the grandest scale. You could basically make the same argument about Black music in America. Both Black music and African culture were shitted on, but boy do Europeans cling to that shit like it's theirs.",
"Exactly.",
"> Rich people taking shit from a country I have nothing to do with 200 years ago\n\nWhat's up with white people pushing everything back hundreds and hundreds of years ago?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramble_for_Africa 1885",
"> Imagine trying to make people feel guilty for things they have nothing to do with.\n\nIf you feel guilty about something, that's on you.",
"> I think too many British have equated their own self esteem with past glories, hanging on to fantasies and not reality would be more detrimental to Britain than the rest of the world.\n\nSo much this.",
"Sauce?",
"Four words: My eyes are circles?",
"Hindsight is 20/20 doesn't work when the British and later the Americans knew exactly what they were doing keep this countries in conflict. They stole these artifacts and kept the counties in turmoil. Also some of the largest pieces would go back to countries that aren't have any issues like Greece.",
"It's amazing how no one stole anything or did anything bad before the West. Literally peace on earth and then the West showed up. And by \"West\" Reddit means White people because the reality is Redditors are massively racist.",
"I'll let you in on a secret, the west is still fucking over these regions preventing them from reaching a place where sending artifacts back wouldn't place them in danger.",
"So point them out. Point out the punchlines.",
"I think I [found it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x2ovlPr2IE)",
"I didn't even like Jo Brand in that series. I like her normally but it's pretty pointless for someone to go on that show and not even try.",
"Yeah not like the entire island is fucking named Ireland.",
"“I know it’s early days, but… are we the stupidest so far?”",
"Also the running theme of \"Hello James\" > -__-",
"Don’t get me wrong, I thought the stand up was funny. I made this argument more in response to some of the comments on here rather than the post it’s self.",
"Cheers man. A bunch of Brits I’m guessing, who probably haven’t a clue of NI history in the slightest. Could be some angry Northerner’s too though, can’t discount that one",
"sauce here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ozEZxOsanY\n \nhe's just reapplying the joke from the Romans to the British.",
"Almost as if at one point in time Northern Ireland did not need to be a term for the 6 counties on the island of Ireland that are now part of the United Kingdom but were once tied to the other 26 counties that form the country we all know as Ireland",
"> If I stole the Mona Lisa from someone who later developed a crack habit and was known to go on iconoclastic benders, I would be hesitant to return the painting if I didn't need to.\n\nWell that's a rude way to characterize Italians.",
"This was like the only historical British joke in his whole 3-part special (Repertoire). It’s silly to suggest that “a lot of these jokes” are secretly an attempt to foster nationalism when:\n\nA) It’s only like 2% of his show\n\nB) He’s incredibly critical of his government and the actions they did in their “predominance”\n\nC) you haven’t actually watched the show *or* sourced these “British comedians” you’re talking about (because, spoilers, British comedy is incredibly self-critical and not at all what you say it is)\n\nAnd even if it was some weird conspiracy between *comedians* to come together and plant the seeds of nationalist propaganda, that doesn’t really work when all their jokes *make fun of the country they’re supposed to be supporting*.\n\nWhat a fucking whackjob. Is everything a conspiracy to you or do you have to question microchips in your morning coffee too?",
"> Dial back the autism a bit and you'll get it.\n\nI can already tell why you're the type of person who would argue against people reclaiming their heritage from European museums, but this was just icing on the cake.\n\nG'day, friend.",
"Mmm. I’m speaking more of internal stability e.g. lack of engrained corruption, civil war and strife, general multicultural and religious acceptance. While also being a developed nation with the funding, academic background, and resources to both research, restore, and protect these artifacts. E.g. Humidity controlled vaults, security, and highly educated and trained curators, etc. \n\nYou should check out the YouTube channel [Curators Corner](https://youtu.be/R0wcdhZu7pQ) to see the passion and care they put into these objects from the curators themselves. And to also see their capability in pulling new and real information about our past and disseminate it to the world.\n\nI mean, it’s not the only country that I think could do a good job of it. No place is perfect, but they’re already set up with everything there.",
"The Brits literally took the world in search of Spice and still have absolutely shit food.",
"> I’m speaking more of internal stability \n\nI'm sorry, but didn't Europeans almost destroy the world twice already lol, going back to my violent group of countries comment. Secondly, have you seen those films and documentaries of them hiding art during the world wars and the monuments men? I did not see a single piece of African artwork being saved, so I can only imagine the shit they stole then later lost to bombings. Then you have to think about all the African skulls they have taken in their support of \"scientific racism\", it's just trashy all around.\n\n\n>Humidity controlled vaults, security, and highly educated and trained curators, etc. You should check out the YouTube channel Curators Corner to see the passion and care they put into these objects from the curators themselves.\n\nThat sounds nice on paper, but in practice, it's what an African can assume.\n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/arts/design/germany-museum-condition-artifacts.html\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0BvkmEW-js",
"I mean, yeah, if you look at history in a cynical and purely ethnic/racial way. And even that isn’t really true. European and Middle Eastern history are so deeply entwined that if you go back far enough it becomes more and more a distinction without a difference. Greece was once part Ottomon empire, the Islamic Moors had control of various parts of Italy and Spain, Greece conquered Egypt, then made a Greece/Egypt baby, Alexandria etc., etc. Those are a few small examples, but there are dozens more stretching back into deep prehistory with vast migrations of peoples streatching all the way from northern China down to the most western parts of Europe. \n\nThe nationalistic and East vs. West concept of history that you hold is actually a relatively new thing. And that’s why studying history is so great. It dispels the myths and legends we tell to set one people apart from another. Because in the end, if you go back far enough, it’s all the same history. We all came from the same place, the same mother and father.",
"Can you explain how giving back stolen artefacts to countries like Greece and India would be a dumpster fire? Those countries are stable and have a litany of museums with precious artefacts that have existed without any issue. Neither is also under threat of a takeover from ISIL and the like. \n\nAnd this is coming from a Brit by the way.",
"Not to mention, it's not like London hasn't had its share of bombs dropped on it at various points in history.",
"Same here! I watched every episode after seeing that one clip.",
"Common myth from ww2. the national dish is literally a delicious curry.",
"> The nationalistic and East vs. West concept of history that you hold is actually a relatively new thing. And that’s why studying history is so great. It dispels the myths and legends we tell to set one people apart from another.\n\nPrecisely, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism ended around WW2 when Europeans found out they were in fact the recessive ones, then they dropped the whole subject, never to be heard about again, but the \"West vs\" view being \"relatively new\" needs to be put in context as in the last couple of hundred of years, don't water it down with civilizations from more than a thousand years ago. I've noticed people tend to do that on certain racial subjects, \"Everyone had slaves!\", \"We're all from the same place!\", how quick Europeans are to switch up when it comes to accountability.",
"Yes, plenty of sauces, like curry sauce, were introduced to Britain because of the British empire. And the spread (no pun) of ketchup involved the British empire.",
"Better in a museum than burned in a civil war. Think they should be returned eventually but honestly they're better off in a British Museum.",
"[Will the Prime Minister of Greece suffice?](https://news.artnet.com/art-world/greek-prime-minister-offers-trade-for-parthenon-marbles-2034905)",
"So I don’t really know how to explain without writing a whole essay about it. But here we go anyways.\n\nBasically Europe in WW1 and WW2 was going through both a war of new secular ideologies, with new technology. We’re talking the second industrial revolution, nationalism, fascism, communism, social Darwinism. All of these isms boiled over with deadly technology to create distraction on a level that we have never seen before. This scared Europe to a deep existential level (much less so America, and much more so England). And out of this came the most concerted effort in human history to end war full stop. \n\nWe’re talking the League of Nations, then the United Nations, the concept of a “war crime”, NATO, EU, etc. Were these attempts fully successful? Hell no. We’re only human after all. But at the same time Europe has by far the most constrained area from war, in the world, legally and in terms of treaties and trade agreements. And also in many ways culturally (much so less in America than Europe/England). As Europe bore the brunt of the most horrific wars in history, they also have the deepest most cynical and traumatic memories of it. And since then have not been involved in a war among major powers coming up on a century now. And honestly. Looking at the current Geopolitical situation. I don’t see one coming to Western Europe any time soon. Even if Russia invaded Ukraine. Of course, I could be wrong. I don’t know the future. But looking at the cultural and geopolitical situation in Western Europe vs. the situation in the Middle East and India? I’ll hedge my bets on Europe and very specifically England. England is a stable, island nation, completely surrounded by allies. It hasn’t been invaded in hundreds of years and when it was bombed, they just moved everything underground. They have a track record of bringing priceless artifacts through the greatest war in history.\n\nNow when I started this whole thing. I figured that based on the original video posted, people would know I was speaking specifically about England and the British Museum. But since you sent me links about random museums in the US and other places, let me clarify. I’m specifically talking about England, but I could also extend that to some of the other Western European countries. France and Germany maybe. The US is far more “eh”. I’m not talking about “the west” in general. \n\nSo yeah, could have added allot more, but I’ve got stuff to do.",
"Please don’t ever make this argument again. It’s shallow, it’s shockingly ignorant and ill informed, and it is just silly.",
"Fairly sure OP isn't personally keeping stolen wealth or has a say in it",
"> Fairly sure OP isn't personally keeping stolen wealth or has a say in it\n\nwe were talking about hypothetical situation\n\n>or has a say in it\n\nyou always have a say in what you keep",
"Scrapmek, which country are you from and I'll list ways that you're currently supporting a regime that is ruining another country elsewhere.\n\nYou are literally typing your comments out on a device that has been made from a form of cheap labour that exploits people? So if you're telling people to change their actions, why aren't you? You're funding cheap and exploitative labour yourself",
"> This scared Europe to a deep existential level (much less so America, and much more so England). And out of this came the most concerted effort in human history to end war full stop.\n> \n> \n> \n> We’re talking the League of Nations, then the United Nations, the concept of a “war crime”, NATO, EU, etc. Were these attempts fully successful? Hell no. We’re only human after all. But at the same time Europe has by far the most constrained area from war, in the world, legally and in terms of treaties and trade agreements.\n\nThe \"we're only human after all\" is your out. In that phrase you have all the African and South American coups backed by Europe stuffed inside. I do believe Europe was scared on a deep existential level, but it was because they realized all that shit they were spreading around the world could happen at home. That's why, I think, we hear so much about the Holocaust, when Leopold in the Congo took way more lives.",
"Stable country mate, you guys can't even stop from going bankrupt without EU help, and then you fight against the EU help. \n\nBesides, you sold it to the english. Can't bitch too much,",
"Sure...but shouldn't it still be their decision? I mean if I had an important item and my mom was abusive and some douchebag stole it from me, I don't know how much I'd buy it if there argument for not getting it back is \"Well your mom keeps destroying your other toys! I'm actually helping you by not giving it back cause I don't know that it wouldn't also get destroyed!\"\n\nLike if the UK offered to give them back and they said \"no we're worried about insurrectionists destroying it\" then fine, but making that decision *for them* on your own is not great. If they do want it back and it does get destroyed, I mean, that's awful but it's not like those things NEED to be preserved on a global scale do they? It's mostly art and the like. It should be put in the hands of the people who it matters more to. I don't think I agree that it is about guarding \"human history\" because it puts this kind of unfair sense of authority on the UK to be the ones to guard it.\n\nPLUS, I mean that's only talking about the countries that *are* destabilized in some way. It's not like the only places the UK has denied giving back to are the ones at risk. I imagine there are probably a ton of things they have that could easily be returned to their original owners with no risk of what you're talking about at all...",
"India fucked itself, the british just took advantage.\n\nWhen the british arrived in India, it was a third rate power in the region at best, and the mughals in charge were FAR more powerful and just as technologically advanced. Then they all started using british trained sepoys as mercenaries in their internal conflicts while constantly backstabbing each other and managed to get taken over by a country halfway across the world.",
"Clicked it just to confirm my suspicions. This is in the hall of fame (hall of tasks?) for sure.",
"I’m sorry, sold?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Marbles",
"**[Elgin Marbles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Marbles)** \n \n >The Elgin Marbles (), also known as the Parthenon Marbles (Greek: Γλυπτά του Παρθενώνα), are a collection of Classical Greek marble sculptures made under the supervision of the architect and sculptor Phidias and his assistants. They were originally part of the temple of the Parthenon and other buildings on the Acropolis of Athens. The collection is now on display in the British Museum, in the purpose-built Duveen Gallery. From 1801 to 1812, agents of Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin removed about half of the surviving sculptures of the Parthenon, as well as sculptures from the Propylaea and Erechtheum, and had them transported by sea to Britain.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"Yeh it’s total bullshit",
">Ok then let's steal everybody else's stuff for safe keeping.\n\nYou're ignoring the entire body of legitimate scholarly work that went on which would have been impossible without collecting artifacts in centralized locations for study by cohorts of scholars with sufficiently advanced technology, cross reference material, expertise, and political/academic freedom to perform that work unmolested. Not to mention many artifacts were excavated from sites around the world at exorbitant cost to British antiquarians requiring experts to travel to and carefully plan and catalog dig sites for later scholarly work.\n\n&nbsp;\n\n>You are cherry picking examples, and I could do the same on the other side.\n\nMaybe, except my \"cherry picking\" is repeated consistently throughout history so it's less \"cherry picking\" and more like picking hay out of the proverbial haystack while you're pointing at the needles and beating your chest.\n\n&nbsp;\n\n>Can you agree on general principles that a country shouldn't colonize other countries and steal the prime examples of their cultural heritage?\n\nNo, because I reject your premise and framing. I find it childishly reductionist and lacking historical nuance. You're trying to judge actions of the past with out context through a lens of modern morality while framing the provenance of EVERY SINGLE historical artifact as stolen or a product of the modern boogeyman of 'colonization'. Conquest happens, cultures borrowed, stole, and learned from each other. The reality is what it is.\n\n&nbsp;\n\nUsing the Elgin marbles above as an example, Greece was at-the-time a part of the Ottoman empire (conquest? colonization? call it what you will) and the Turkic sultan couldn't be fucked if priceless ancient Greek statuary was being tossed into the limekin and burned like much of ancient Rome was. So they were excavated and \"stolen\" from who? The Ottoman Turks who were happy to see them burn? The Greeks who were happy to burn them? Where do you draw the line of provenance? Whether it's convenient for your moral superiority or not, British scholars SAVED many artifacts and cultural relics from cultural genocide, looting into private collections, or just being destroyed by happenstances of modernization or human expansion.",
"“Please don’t take this away from me.”",
"My New Years tradition is to watch Big Fat Quiz of the Year while special occasion high. Not always on the first, but the week around it.",
"Jellied eels, Haggis, Mush peas sometimes on toast, spotted dick, white pudding, marmite, Christmas pudding / cake (basically fruitcake), Stargazey Pie (has fish heads sticking out of it) and cold pork pies with congealed jelly in them.\n\nI think the British culinary experience is similar to Stockholm Syndrome.",
"Greg going into teacher mode on him was hilarious.",
"What a spree, what a spree.",
"I don't know of any other countries that do eat Christmas pudding.",
">They (we) can overwhelmingly be in favour of it, making not giving them back very politically unpopular.\n\nPutting aside all other political objectives (Brexit, climate change, Covid response, healthcare, education, etc), how are you proposing that this become a hot topic for a general election?",
"Nope no mince pies either. Peanut brittle, pecan pie, rum cake, gingerbread, red velvet cake, cheesecake, fudge, sugar cookies, cinnamon roles, apple pie, peppermint bark and peppermint chocolate chip cookies.",
"No, we take government stability into account",
"Who is this “we”?",
"You say a hypothetical situation, then turn round and say he/she/they have a say in what they keep in a hypothetical situation. Again, OP has no say in what his country keeps. They could do all the lobbying in the world to their government and nothing would happen",
"The two oldest surviving crowns from England are in Germany and on display already. There's plenty of stuff from the UK that is on display elsewhere. Wealthy Americans bought a lot of stuff during the 1800s and 1900s, particularly after the war and exported them for their own collections.",
"Never heard of mushy peas on toast. Not sure that's a thing. Some of those other things are amazing.",
"You wish mate, that's sadly not even close to being accurate",
"Your description of 'mystery and history' has piqued my interest. I'll have a listen to some today!",
"Nah, Im good.",
"Almost Guy Fawkes day",
">Haha. Germany paid reparations for decades and has laws against Nazism, the country is \"doing better\" by being aware of their mistakes and owning up to them in the modern day.\n\nAre you aware that the UK sends billions every year to developing countries and has done so for decades?\n\n>Products you almost certainly have bought are made in factories and facilities that run on near slave labour, but of course that doesn't count because that system was set up before you were born, so you can make use of it now guilt free, right?\n\nSo... the UK is now responsible for how other countries treat their people, you know the British empire is over right? Attack china for their practices, not the UK.",
"Yes, perhaps read the link.\n\nPerhaps also read the part that the locals were ripping them down and burning them for lime",
"Sounds awful",
"It was a bunch of petty feudal warlords enslaving their own population.",
"Apart fro the massive amount ts of weather accumulated in the country that allowed it to be built.",
"They were being burnt by the turks for the lime at the time.",
"Even if Elgin was “saving” these marbles, we have had a brand new museum under the Acropolis for a number of years now, what excuse is there for not returning them?",
"Still looking at them",
"Yep, thought so 🤣",
"Why should they get it, just because they happen to be in the same geographical location as the person who owned it 2000 years ago?",
"No, it's true in real life.",
"What's in Christmas pudding? Maybe we just call it something else.",
"No, the burning was the Venetians, in the 1680’s.\n\nThomas Bruce arrived around a century after the burning of the Parthenon.\n\nBut it’s true that the Turks may have been grinding down the marble to make mortar.",
"Half of these foods aren't eaten with any kind of regularity, not sold in supermarkets, and can only be found in very old restaurants/diner style places that get by almost entirely on nostalgia.",
"Yeah you’re full of shit is what your are.",
"> I am a history enthusiast. \n\nNot much of one if you don't realise who the major cause of 20th century middle east conflict was.",
"That's like taking the next kid over's science fair project because yours is shit. \n\nThe national dish should be something more patriotic like beans on toast.",
"> -Alright, alright. *Other* than being the first to abolish human slavery...",
"Ireland has twice the income per capita of those living in the UK. Yet they were supposedly Jerry's children. The fact is they made more wealth being a tax haven for multinationals in 20 years than the UK could throughout the whole of the Empire. The wealth back then was peanuts compared to what liberalised global trade has unlocked.",
"Also the industrial revolution helped.",
"> Haggis\n\nHaggis usually contains coriander seeds, mace, pepper and nutmeg.\n\n> spotted dick\n\nOften contains vanilla or served with a vanilla custard.\n\n> Christmas pudding\n\nAlways contains cinnamon, coriander seed, caraway, nutmeg, ginger, cloves, allspice, and mace.",
"My ancient ancestors who were never imperialists by any stretch of the word, were enslaved by Muslim slavers and forced to be be servants, harem concubines, craftsmen, slave soldiers, many were castrated as eunuchs. They were traded by Jewish merchants. \n\nLater people became slaves to our kings. \n\nI’m told this was a long time ago so it makes it *ok*. \n\nThen more recently in history my grandma was taken from her home and was a domestic slave in Germany during the Second World War. Even before the war broke out there was talk of relocating my people and eventually having them become a slave class at best. \n\nI’m now apparently part of the modern problem of racism by association and the spectre of slavery, because of my skin colour, of the racism perpetrated by the imperialism and colonisation by the UK and US. Who ultimately benefited from their imperialism, the war and left my extended family to either die, work in labour camps or to suffer under a communist regime for decades.",
"he missed a joke. \nHe should have added\" ...and on that plaque is the DATE when they stole it. It actually tells the people WHEN the brits took it. how blatant\"",
"Well, you were atleast better than France. Former colonies of Britain are atleast moderatly successful, while the former colonies of France are... well... not good",
"If you say so my dude.",
"Not much of a reader if you didn’t notice that I I covered that in my original comment.",
"You actually didn't since they weren't the cause \"to an extent\". But good work claiming that the British should have done a better job ransacking all the countries they fucked on the way out it's brave if not nothing.",
"Absolutely god awful take. Places like India and Pakistan are very stable and can most definitely look after THEIR stuff. The way you state it makes it sound like these countries are on the brink of collapse.",
"James is a comedian so I'm not sure how much he agrees with his sentiment. But the difficult of trying to be just and fair, after centuries of conflict is that there is no end.\n\nSay we return the marbles to Greece, would they also seek to right their wrongs and return the land they conquered to the countries that they have taken it from? Even if they were willing, there probably isn't anyone to give these items to!\n\nAnd once you get started in the above line of thought it can be applied to lots of other areas as well, not just territory.\n\nThe simplified version of this is that in recent history Britain was the 'big dog' and Greece/Spain/France/Holland were the second biggest, the wrong's that Britain did to those, surely was also passed on from those to those smaller than them?\n\nMy history knowledge isn't amazing so if I'm completely wrong, then teach me, I'm happy to learn",
"They developed India to further their own gains. It's as simple as that. If they really cared so much then [millions ](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36339524) wouldn't have died as a result of famines under their rule.",
"Not every place is embroiled in civil war. What about India?",
"Only the UK and the USA has done that stuff? TIL.",
">Could be some angry Northerner’s too though, can’t discount that one\n\nGod forbid the people who live there don't share your views. No wonder they want to stay away if you act like this.",
"> They developed India to further their own gains. It's as simple as that.\n\nIndia benefitted far more than UK did.\n\n> If they really cared so much then millions wouldn't have died as a result of famines under their rule.\n\nThere wasn't realistically anything UK could do about that. If they diverted food from other parts of the empire, those parts would have starved instead, which would hardly be fair. The famine was a tragedy, which, like the many times famine has occurred in the region in the past, was not created by UK.",
"The ideologies that started out in Europe (all the isms) I spoke of that started WW2 were never going to just stay in Europe. They boiled over into the rest of the world. The combination of this and many European countries giving up their colonial holdings left power vacuums and war in their wake. The end Colonialism was never going to end pretty no matter what the west did. Too much damage had been done already. Like your Leopold example, which happened during the peak second colonial era (mid/late 1800s). And attempts to mitigate the damage many times made things worse.\n\nBut anyway. The point is about where these artifacts are safe. I completely acknowledge that colonialism was a disaster to the undeveloped world, and continues to be. But we are just going back to the whole concept of “right” and “fair”. And as I’ve stated before, in terms of what is pragmatic and practical, it’s best to keep many of the objects in the British Museum, where they are. At least the ones from war-torn and unstable countries. \n\nAnd to your thing about the holocost. It’s pretty simple. Many survivors, and relatives of survivors ended up moving or fleeing to the US, making a shit ton of money (specifically in the film industry) and spent allot of the money on museums, films, and organizations to ensure that we would not forget. That’s not any antisemitic conspiracy theory. That’s just a fact. And I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. On top of that, it happened in Europe. There are camps in Europe, you can go to today. It’s harder to forget when it’s right in your back yard. Another fundamental aspect of human behavior.\n\nNot that I don’t think more people should know about the atrocities that occurred during colonial times.",
"I don’t respond to people who in oh so many words tell me to shut up. If you want me to stop, tell me why I am ignorant. Inform me. And if it makes sense. I’ll stop.",
"I would really love to hear more about your education and exposure on Northern Irish history or topics. From talking to a lot of British people, they get the barest sliver of information on it. I don’t trust anyone outside of Ireland or NI to have done any significant reading on the topic. \n\nI’m not being some drunk uncle, so your point that they would want to “stay away if you act like this” is really just some appeal to courtesy and calmness, rather than engaging with the points I raised. If you have any legitimate complaint, share them. Otherwise, if your concern is with my tone, grow up.",
"“When they were in fact the recessive ones” what do you mean by that?",
"But I said so earlier, when I pointed out the comic didn’t make any actual jokes. And you cared enough to defend him then, but apparently you must have gone back and watched the video again to try to prove me wrong and then sadly realized that, indeed, there are no punch lines. It’s all setup and hand waving.\n\nSo you realized that, got sad, and refused to engage me, but because your ego is so fragile you tried to save face.\n\nAnd that is why I declared you full of shit.",
"Seems like you didn't go through the article I linked which clearly states that there was enough food around to provide relief for famine and that large food exports were being dispatched to Britain from India whilst millions were dying. This indifference is what I'm talking about. For the British, India was just a means to increase their wealth. They did not care about the locals and any development that came about was simply due to them wanting to make their looting easier and more efficient. I would encourage you to watch [this](https://youtu.be/mCgBQFhQGf0) video where this point is more well developed.",
"> Seems like you didn't go through the article I linked which clearly states that there was enough food around to provide relief for famine and that large food exports were being dispatched to Britain from India whilst millions were dying. \n\nThat's a lie though.\n\nI would encourage you to get your education less from propaganda and more from credible sources.",
"Oh man, you know what?\nYou got me dog.\nDead to rights.\nThats exactly what happened.\nIt's not at all that it was obvious you were a lost cause. Nope, def not that.",
"If only there was some trivial way to prove your point and prove me wrong. But nah, can’t do that, instead you’ll just wave your hands at an imaginary conclusion like this “comic”.",
"Why does that matter? I didn't offer my opinion either way and won't now because it's not got much to do with me. \n\nIf Northern Irish people want to be part of the UK then maybe don't be such a dick and belittle them? Just because you don't agree doesn't make you right and them wrong. \n\nNot exactly a crazy stance to take 'don't be a knob'. \n\nHilarious that you are telling other people to grow up though, methinks you need to spend some time looking inward.",
"Some Northern Irish people want to be part of the UK. Some want it to be part of Ireland. Many more are ambivalent and don’t see it as a primary concern. You are ignorant to the history and current politics of Northern Ireland, all I can do is suggest you read up on it before sounding off your opinion. \n\nHow Irish and Northern Irish people talk about the partition and Irish sovereignty is just not your place to judge or police. Pretending I’m being childish is just you being a pot stirrer. Be grand, plenty of trolls out there just like you. All the best mate.",
"Seem as though you're illiterate I'll say it again: I'm not offering my opinion either for or against. \n\nJust telling you you're a proper knobhead by saying the people's opinions you disagree with are just 'angry northerners'.\n\nClearly you're a bit dim and don't understand basic decency though, so cya.",
"It is the one seasoning they freely use.",
"At least I had a source to provide. Could you point me towards these credible sources please?",
"funded by taxes and cheap raw materials from the colonies",
"That's wonderful.",
"[Pakistan 1](https://theshillongtimes.com/2021/09/29/failed-state-pakistan-goes-deeper-into-massive-crisis/)\n\n[Pakistan 2](https://youtu.be/lqk5d5Sfo34)\n\n[Pakistan 3 ](https://youtu.be/-yXCQ1RTDAI)\n\n[Pakistan 4](https://youtu.be/L0_L18_1EVw)\n\n\n[India 1](https://youtu.be/YbJnv50q9ac)\n\n[India 2](https://youtu.be/xVVIlwOe4Rc)\n\n[India 3](https://youtu.be/Rk-rS7mb_zs)\n\nMay want to catch up on your world affairs before you say something like that. Especially for Pakistan, which is on the brink of being a failed state.\n\nPlease tell me how you think Pakistan is a “very stable state”?",
"I say to an extent, because through my research I do not buy into the “noble savage” myth. In many ways, the British and other colonial powers took advantage of wars and ethnic tensions that already existed. A common example of this is the slave trade. The majority of slaves we’re not captured by the British, but bought off of tribes that captured them from other tribes that they were at war with. And the Middle East? Well they had their own empire for a long time that was no stranger to subjugation and mass murder. Until they collapsed under their own weight and the British came in and took a side in a war that was already being fought. War, death, and tragedy were not none existent in these areas before the colonial powers came. Especially the Middle East. War was practically born there.\n\nThe colonial powers simply exploited the tension and war that was already there, and made it into a machine. \n\nThus to an extent. A great extent maybe, but an extent non-the-less.",
"To add to this, one argument that I haven’t seen is convenience. I know I’ll probably be down voted for this but right now it’s possible to go to the British Museum and see the entire history of the world. For me personally I would have to take time off from work and fly there to see all of this history but it is still all in one place more or less. If all of the world’s treasures were to be returned to their rightful owners then there is no way your average tourist would ever be able to see it. For some it might be possible to save up, take time off, and go on vacation to the UK for a week or so and while there see the history of the world. But it would be next to impossible for most people to travel the world to see all of these things that are currently in one location.",
"Your definition of credible is pretty dubious to say the least. For link 1 of Pakistan, an Indian news site calling Pakistan a failed state? I'm not sure if you're aware of the situation between both countries but that is far from credible. Link 2 is a suicide blast. If individual instances of terrorism make a failed state then by that definition the US is also a failed state with its ever occurring school shootings. Link 3 is again related a political party clashing with the government. How is that any different from the capitol riots that occurred recently? If you look at the video I linked you'll find a very good argument against what you're purporting.",
"> There's quite a few things the Chinese would like back as well.\n\nYeah because they smashed all their artifacts during the cultural revolution.\n\nColour me an imperialist, but maybe there is a moral argument not to support a regime (that exists to this day) that destroyed its own artifacts, and just want them to gain legitimacy in their current day nefarious activities.",
"I don’t see any linked video.",
"Sorry, it's this one : https://youtu.be/mCgBQFhQGf0",
"best colonialism joke\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEx5G-GOS1k",
"Never had chicken Tikka Masala?",
"That is a moral argument for reparations. Which I completely understand and agree with to an extent. If funding can be used effectively to right the wrongs of colonialism, then I say go for it. It will only help everyone in the end.\n\nBut that’s not really what I’m talking about, and not really anything to do with the current state of Pakistan. [This is a more credible source on the state of Pakistan if you need it. ](https://www.usip.org/publications/2020/08/current-situation-pakistan)\n\nYou say the situation in Pakistan is the same as in Britain? Again ive told multiple people in this thread. I’m not talking about “the west” in general. I’m talking about Western Europe, and Britain specifically. As this was the case in the original video I’m commenting on. US has not learned the lessons of war that Europe did during the world wars. We could be down a path of further destabilization. And if we descend into a war or insurgency. I very much hope our artifacts and important cultural relics are taken somewhere safe.",
"> Greek here\n\nYeah... How did that work out with you guys and the Parthenon?",
"At least you can find tons of good international food there. And some of their dishes are really great, but this stereotype exists for a reason. I'm curious why Britain ended up with worse food compared to other countries in Europe when they had so much money and culture.",
"This is an extremely important consideration I think. There's a lot of value in having so much of history in one place. We would be giving up what is maybe the greatest museum in the world. Sacrificing that benefit to humanity might be the right call. Or the museum/UK govt could work out deals to pay the offended nations. Or maybe some of the artifacts could travel between nations. Or something else. For me, the museum is the main reason I want to visit UK.\n\nrelated: Smithsonian American Indian Museum has a process for repatriation of artifacts. I wonder how that has affected the museum's quallity: https://americanindian.si.edu/explore/repatriation",
"> what happens if someone blows up the British museum\n\nThis seems like an important thing to consider that I didn't think of. Nice to have everything in one place, but also risky. There are lots of countries where you could get great security to prevent this, and UK is one of them, but there are certainly others. Egypt, for example, already has to protect priceless artifacts and has demonstrated that they can do so despite periods of political instability. But I don't think Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan. If the Taliban govt. requested artifacts to be remitted, should the UK do it? I think the \"Took your stuff\" argument is pretty strong across the board, but would that be an exception for you?",
"Sorry, I don’t follow 🤔",
"no",
"LOL. 2 genders pal",
"I love how much I'm inside your head right now that you're going through my comment history and commenting on separate things 😂",
"It does make sense that there is some sort of minimal requirement. For instance, you can point to a direct cause of harm to the artifacts. A country engaged in a civil war is a good example, or a proven track record of corruption that would \"disappear\" artifacts. When dealing with dictatorial regimes, the wishes of the free diaspora of such a country should also be taken into consideration. A country without internationally recognized leadership would be another hard sell. \n\nBut all of that starts with acknowledging that in principle that artifacts should be returned, that in some cases this may be complicated, but that the goal is placing them under the stewardship of the culture that produced these artifacts.",
"CMV: If the British hadn't nicked it (in general), it likely wouldn't still be available to look at which makes it as much theirs as any one else's."
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"o7",
"I remember one night I came across this account and was crying laughing at the pinned tweet: Slap my fat vegetable ass",
"whats a MAPs and NOMAPs?",
"A fuckin’ legend",
"It's worth noting that this account has no connection to the actual Veggietales brand.",
"Holy shit my sides",
"Minor Attracted Person / Non Offending Minor Attracted Person\n\nIt's just pedophiles attempting to piggyback on LGBTQ rights.",
"The pedos attempting to \"clean up\" their name. MAP stands for \"Minor-attracted person\", NOMAP stands for \"Non-Offending MAP\" i.e. no intention of raping children.",
"So basically just pedophiles who are trying to rebrand themselves.\n\nWell I certainly agree with veggietales sentiment regarding those people. Stupid that twitter suspended their account. They weren't advocating for people to harm these disgusting pigs. Just that their demise would be entertaining.\n\nSo twitter defends pedophiles now?",
"Eh if they really are no maps getting treatment I wouldn't want them to die, admittedly I wouldn't want them close to my kids or in my area but if most priests are able yo take a vow of chastity and follow through I think most nomaps could suppress their paraphillia enough to live on the outside.",
"Wow edgy",
"I think there is merit in exploring how we talk about and support someone who divulges a sexual attraction like this BEFORE they’ve hurt someone. If we treat them like monsters before they’ve done anything wrong for something they didn’t choose to have (as far as I know the person with the attraction to kids doesn’t actively choose that - it’s the choice to hurt kids that they have control over) then that’s a problem. There isn’t an easy or comfortable solution, but just saying they should die isn’t helping anything.",
"What the fuck would you even cite? It's not a verified account",
"These acronyms make no sense. There’s nothing in the phrase “Minor-Attracted Person” that says they’re going to rape children. But now it’s implied because “Non-Offending Minor-Attracted Person” specifically clarifies that they DON’T rape kids. What the fuck is this confusing bullshit",
"\\*Drawn together flashes\\*",
"You can't prove that.",
"star wars sucks and is for losers.",
"Yeah, I don't think these people are going to campaign for their right to fuck anyone underage. They definitely have every right to be able to find help discreetly.",
"Only on twitter would you be suspended for saying pedos deserve death.\n\nEDIT: Lmao power moderator contacted the admins to suspend my account for three days because of this comment. Not surprising since Reddit staff actively hire pedos such as AIMEE CHALLENOR.",
"> admittedly I wouldn't want them close to my kids or in my area\n\nWhile I understand your concern, I think this kind of reaction is the same one people get when they learn someone is gay and suddenly think they might become an object of attraction. It doesn't work that way. There's obvious contexts that make such interactions inappropriate, and when it comes to children, if I understand this NOMAP thing correctly, they realize that it isn't ever appropriate.",
"BROCCOLI... \n\nCELERY... \n\nGOTTA BE...\n\n\nFUCK THE GOVERNMENT",
"you can't prove that.",
"> They can campaign all they want, we're all going to say no.\n\nI just said they're not gonna. What the hell is wrong with you?",
"Ok troll",
"Twitter has been going crazy with bans since they have that new CEO.",
"This was the stupidest thing I've seen for a while, but by God was I invested.",
"My momma always used to say \"if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.\"",
"Twitter pedophile lore goes deep man. There's \"no-contact\" which means they avoid kids at all costs. Of course there's also \"pro-contact\" who just [really want to fuck kids](https://i.imgur.com/6YcQSxl.jpg) and love trying to justify it.\n\nOf course to them, none of it is rape. Go figure. NOMAPs just seem more self-aware of that fact.",
"Omg I haven’t laughed that hard in such a long time!",
"> You’re literally comparing being gay to a mental illness.\n\nNo, I'm comparing people's reactions to people who belong to those groups.",
"It's nearly impossible to suppress your sexual desires be them hetero, homo, or otherwise. You cant treat away the pedo any more than you can treat away the gay. I would imagine the vast majority if not all 'maps' end up offending either by actually raping children or consuming child porn.",
"Sounds more like 4chan trying to brigade the LBGT community back in the \"tumblr vs 4chan war\" try and make people convinced pedophiles were apart of the LGBTQ community. fucking weirdos",
"You got some evidence they’re a troll? What’s your source?",
"Wait is sausage fest poking fun at veggietales? If so, I didn’t put 2 and 2 together until now.",
"F",
"Oh god that's funny",
"I'm not really sure they wake up in the morning and go \"you know what I think I'm gonna get into today?\"",
"Oh. That went over my head",
"> having the urge to have sex with children is not commendable\n\nAre you retarded? I said having the urge, and *not acting on it is commendable*. \n\nAnyone battling a steep mental illness and coming on top is commendable.\n\nYou act like sexual urges is some no big deal to go up against. The average heterosexual man is completely broken by their sexual urges, doing all sorts of crazy, *criminal* shit. Do you know the bullshit that women are inundated with on the daily on social media? \n\nWhy would you ever weigh in on shit you know nothing about?",
"He's saying they're commendable for remaining to be conscientious members of society that will work against the assault of minors despite their difficult situation of having an attraction to said minors (something that isn't their fault for having and should be able to have the resources to seek out help without persecution)",
"Maybe when you stop being a child yourself you'll learn to appreciate other's viewpoint",
"There are people that have terrible thoughts, realize they are terrible, feel guilty about how terrible they are, and cannot stop them from reoccurring. It is commendable to suppress subconscious desires out of not wanting to cause others harm.",
"You started the offense when you called me strange, and you can see by public sentiment that it's only a alternate viewpoint if you relate the normative one to idiots.",
"I get trying to differentiate NOMAP for ppl actively seeking help and not wanting to harm others. For both MAP and NOMAP to exist, MAP essentially means \"yeah I'd molest a kid for sure!\" Much worst than the all inclusive pedo term...",
"o7",
"Again, it's not that they are commendable because they are pedophiles, they are commendable for seeking help and attempted to morally better themselves.\nYou don't get to persecute someone for something outside of their control, especially when they acknowledge they're need for help.",
"MAGA, what does it really mean?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States#History\n\n>While the general ages of consent are now set between 16 and 18 in all U.S. states, the age of consent has widely varied across the country in the past. In 1880, the ages of consent were set at 10 or 12 in most states, with the exception of Delaware where it was 7.",
"I don't think we're talking about the same people here.",
"It's basic human rights to be allowed to seek help for your ailments, regardless of what those illnesses are. Having an overwhelming sexual attraction to minors is considered to be an illness that requires therapy and aid to overcome.\n\nNobody is preaching for a pedophiles right to act on their desires, just like nobody is advocating for an arsonists desire to set houses ablaze, or a kleptos desire to steal.",
"I had an old Twitter account that got obliterated for \"threatening people\". (They never listed the tweet that caused it, but I know damn well it was because I said pedophiles deserve ammo to the face).\n\nPedophiles who willing screw children aren't people.",
"I'll bet they didn't have a choice in this. More likely someone at VeggieTales *finally* got wind this existed and had their trademark lawyer send Twitter a letter.",
"White christian men not only fucked 7 year olds they made it a law they could do it.\n\nNow they become priests where they enjoy the support of their flock.",
"Veggitales facts 👎 \nThe literal Taliban 👍 \n\n\nCheers Twitter",
"How does that have anything to do with what he said",
"Reading this had me dying in laughter. Idk why but it made me think of the tomato saying it with those fucking googlie eyes",
"Source?",
"Jesus dude might be a difference in people from about 200 years ago. They had no idea of what maga is.",
"I have a hard time believing that most of those aren't right-wing trolls roleplaying pedophiles to discredit the LGBTQ community.",
"what's the music on this video",
"You poor illiterate person. Reading comprehension isn't a strong point of yours hey.",
"The point I think he is trying to make, is that Trump and his ilk want to Make America Great like it was in the good old days, where fucking a 14 year old wouldn't get you Suicided in Prison.",
"They're trying to normalize it, is the issue. So if they become offending, it isn't as \"bad\". These people don't go around bringing it up to bring awareness of their problem.",
">If you like children, you most likely like all children because the features that are attractive to you are presented in all of them.\n\nI don't know much about how pedophilia works, but you have just convinced me that you don't either.",
"I don't think priests are a good example...",
"The issue is that the right accuses literally anybody they dont like of being a pedophile. You dont want to encourage people to kill them. That isnt justice.",
"cheering on the death of anyone should be banned",
"Don't go reading into the 70's origin of the lgbt community. It'll ruin your day.",
"My comment was literally a litmus test for low social intelligence. All these low quality people like you coming out of the wood-work.\n\nIt takes a nearly zero capability for empathy and social reasoning to fail to realize the fact that being a pedophile is not a choice. Being a conscientious member of society is normal for normal people. If your normality is a negative according to societal morality, then the effort to attain a normal morality is the same conscientious effort required for a normal person to become a good person. That's why it's commendable, it's a real fight.\n\n Equating my sympathy for innocent people plagued with a mental illness to supporting malicious pedophiles takes a nearly zero social intellect. You should really and genuinely realise that \n\nI guess you hate schizophrenics too just because.",
"It's a terrible and outright mental gymnastics of a point.",
"Care to elaborate?",
"I hate that they're ruining a regular word like map. Maps is my favorite Yeah Yeah Yeahs song. Ugh, it's Isis all over again.",
"Oh Vegan_Harvest is a guy I ran into him recently on Reddit. He likes to accuse people of being racist for no reason, so he is a bit of a jerk.",
"No kidding lmao should make a new account called GullibleSanity",
"The LGBT community didn’t originate in the 70s…",
"That particular tweet was made in 2019 and the account was apparently banned in 2021. I'd be surprised if they were directly connected. Unless the account kept doing the same thing recently, in which case don't mind me.",
"Don't you know? There weren't any LGBT people before 1970. That's when they suddenly appeared out of nowhere",
"Pretty sure queer people have been around since before the 70s",
"where my HAATAP at??",
"why? there has to be a subculture or some shared codes that gather pedos online, this MAP/NOMAP thing sound like could be real pedos justifying themselves (by trying to sound like the lgbtq narrative)",
"What about Hitler? There's always exceptions to any rule",
"o7",
">So twitter defends pedophiles now?\n\nIs this seriously the conclusion you came to?",
"I wouldn't be so sure, I had bans on FB for posts made 4-5 years ago and the new CEO of Twitter said they plan even more censorship. Just crawl through people's timeline again like FB did and start handing out bans for years old shit. \n\n\nHence my only being on reddit anymore and thinking about quitting this platform also after a ban claiming wanting to hunt Canadian Geese is advocating for violence.",
"My favorite Twitter of all time is still https://twitter.com/realcarrotfacts\n\nThey have went silent tho and I really miss it",
">What about Hitler?\n\nTurns out you can't advocate for the death of a person who's already dead.\n\nWho knew?",
"> but just saying they should die isn’t helping anything.\n\nhell, it's making the situation worse. if option A is to get murdered for a crime you never committed, and option B is to indulge in the crime and then get murdered, who's going to pick option A?",
">the nomap thing, if it is what it sounds like. People that are pedophiles, but still a conscientious people that don't contribute to the sexual assault of minors are commendable individuals battling a real mental illness. It's probably a similar lifestyle to being a closeted homosexual in the middle east, where you just sort of have to keep things under wraps for your whole life. They have my support at least.\n\nDo more research and many who say they are MAPs also advocate that age shouldn't be a discriminating factor in sex. They only don't act because it will get them in jail. Some have literally advocated that toddlers should learn about sex and are able to consent but that wouldn't be harmful to them so the discrimination against them as MAPs is wrong. \n\n\nSeriously, watch a few of their videos and these fuckers are sick and just trying to make an excuse to sound like they are getting help or the like but are serious pedos in real life only restrained by the punishment if they get caught.",
"CAULIFLOWER…\n\nSWEET AND SOUR…\n\nHALF AN HOUR…\n\nGOD I WANT TO BE RAILED…",
"o7",
"Twitter loves paedophiles. I have reported dozens of obvious paedophile accounts saying pretty disgusting stuff and they have never once taken any action on them.",
"Yeah can cheer his death though",
">the fact that being a pedophile is not a choice.\n\nIs this really a FACT?\n\nEdit: Downvoted for asking a question lol\n\nEdit 2: yikes a lot of people defending pedophiles in the comments",
"What a stupid fucking takeaway from that comment.",
"IDK, they once dug up a dead Pope to put him on trial.",
"Orchestral rendition of Shota Kageyama - Farewell, from Pokémon Black & White, or something like that.",
"But those are Canada’s Gooses!",
"> admittedly I wouldn't want them close to my kids or in my area\n\nWouldn't do much to help protect your kids against actual sexual abuse or molesting.\n\nhttps://www.vice.com/en/article/mgmzwn/most-child-sex-abusers-are-not-pedophiles-expert-says",
"> It's just pedophiles attempting to piggyback on LGBTQ rights.\n \nOr it is LGBTQ Pedophile's. Why are you gonna exclude them like they don't exist?",
"> So twitter defends pedophiles now?\n\nlmao online discourse in a nutshell. \"You don't believe everything I do? You must be pro-pedophile!\"",
"I'm unfamiliar as to what you're referring to, but are you trying to say that Twitter publicly blasted a dead Pope on their corporate account?",
"Except they don't. Most of child abusers and molesters have other reasons why they did it than pedophilia.",
"That doesn't represent all of them. There are plenty who realize they're fucked up. This is like taking the subset of men who justify rape and applying it to the rest of us. When I hear men say \"she was asking for it\" he doesn't represent me just like these nutjobs don't represent the rest of a community that was born with a horrible affliction.",
"I'll admit I haven't run into any of these videos, mind sharing any that back your comment?",
"Just be sure to hit Anna Paquin",
"GARLIC…\n\n\nCUT IT THICK…\n\n\nACCOUNT SUSPENDED…\n\n\nHIT ME WITH A BRICK…",
"https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=the+time+a+dead+pope+was+put+on+trial",
"Pedophiles are still people, and if you classify pedophilia as a mental illness (which, it is), then you should also allow people to get help for it.",
"Ok but it I am going to guess that account has made a lot of edgy tweets, any one of which could get it suspended. it's pretty wild to jump to the one and baselessly speculate that it's the reason for the suspension",
"An absolutely hilarious story\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver\\_Synod",
"vaya twiter",
"There is no evidence that's what they were suspended for.",
"Underrated comment!!",
"You can’t prove that\n \n^\\(upvoted ^for ^your ^non-Dax-The-Destroyer ^reply)",
"That sounds so naively stupid. Some people are so dangerous that the only thing they deserve is the death penalty. **An example is anders breivik who is responsible for the death of 77 people** \n\n\n>\"On 22 July 2011, Breivik detonated a fertilizer bomb outside the tower block housing the office of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg in Oslo, resulting in 8 deaths.\r \n\r \nWithin a few hours of the explosion he travelled to Utøya island, the site of a camp for Worker's Youth League, posing as a police officer in order to take the ferry to the island, and then fired intermittently for more than one hour, killing 69, with one murder victim as young as 14 years old\"\n\n \nAnd if it's \"specifically\" about cheering for the death of someone, that is also extremely naive. So what? The people being oppressed by lukashenko in Belarus shouldn't cheer for his death? After everything he has done to his people? Get real.",
"*There goes my hero, watch em as he goes!*",
"Its both now, its really gross.",
"o7",
"Censorship can do more good than harm, especially with regards to disinformation campaigns and calls-to-violence.\n\nLike many social tools, censorship has been misused in the past to significant horror. However, that doesn't mean it should be abandoned entirely.",
"If you have a problem with Canada Gooses, you have a problem with me. \n\nAnd I suggest you let that one marinate!",
"how do we define pedophiles? below 18, right?\n\ni know some states are like “age of consent is 16-17”\n\ni know some countries other than US are notorious for sexualizing women 14-16, right? thailand, italian prostitutes\n\nwhere do we draw the line? is an 18 year old and a 65 year old “malicious”/pediophilia?",
"Maybe not, but I know a asshole when I see one.",
"I vote we start calling them \n\n\"Minor Attracted Pieces of Shit\"",
"🤓",
"I'm just disappointed most of the other comments were deleted. But you're right, we can be assholes together =)\n\nAnyways, I hope you have a great day ~ it's my families early Christmas, so hope you have some awesome holidays.\n\nRemember, reading before responding is good practice! \n\n\nCiao Bello",
"Not gonna lie, the St. Patricks day carrot with a map of Italy in the background made me crack up.",
"Understand but if a post I made 4 years ago was ok but 8 months ago they banned me for 30 days it says something. Imagine they lowered the speed limit somewhere and ticketed you years later for breaking it when it was ok before. Same thing anymore with social media.",
"The entire account was pure comedy gold. I still go back and re-read it every now and then.",
"They’re just pheasants with better marketing.",
"Twitter proving once again that they always go after the real problem accounts /s",
"KALE...\n\nTOMATO...\n\nMAKE A NICE STEW...\n\nTHAT'S IT BITCH I'M FUCKING COMING FOR YOU...",
"This is a weird hill to die on.",
"Based",
"It doesn't matter what we call them. The terminology wasn't the problem here.",
"> Seriously, watch a few of their videos and these fuckers are sick and just trying to make an excuse to sound like they are getting help or the like but are serious pedos in real life only restrained by the punishment if they get caught. \n \nIsn't that like defining video gamers by the gamergate idiots? \nI'm not outright defending these guys, I don't know anything about the topic. But your reasoning sounds flawed in general.",
"Larry went hardcore.",
"Yeah, and I like how the reddit crowd often views itself as \"better\" than FB and twitter. But the mechanisms are exactly the same.",
"Lmfao gottem",
"What's the difference",
"Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia",
"Would be a great metal band name.",
"“Apart” means the exact opposite of what you’re trying to say.\n\nYou’re looking for “a part”. Or maybe you’re a pedo, idk.",
"Yeah that tomato do be thicc",
"Look up some of the ones done by Blair White and Daisy Cousins or Shoe on Head. All three have videos on it with examples. So you have trans woman, conservative and democratic socialist female covering it pretty well.",
"the veggitales are not committing terrorism",
"It really is, yes.",
"How would you choose to be attracted to someone?",
"Funny as this was, it's totally understandable that the veggietales account got suspended for wishing death on people.\n\nNot sure why the Taliban gets a pass.",
"[I'm the Map](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IhwaOrMwBY)",
"It wasn't ok 4 years ago, they just didn't have a mechanism or the pressure to more adequately moderate the things that happen on their platform.\n\nFreedom of speech does not protect you from a private company, and just as important, it doesn't protect you from the consequences of your own actions.",
"a plain dry carnot",
"\"Consent\" as a legal concept is way more than just age. It takes into account things like authority and power. Such as when ages are above the line, but are dissimilar.",
"as much*",
"There was over a two year gap between that tweet and the ban so I doubt that tweet was the reason for the ban.",
"I think the issue should you be claiming gamers who didn't support a failed feminist as somehow in the same class as pedophiles. So please explain how not supporting Anita Sarkeesian and her depression video game is like raping toddlers. This should be interesting.",
"Do you have a source on that?\r \n\r \nSource?\r \n\r \nA source. I need a source.\r \n\r \nSorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.\r \n\r \nNo, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.\r \n\r \nYou can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.\r \n\r \nDo you have a degree in that field?\r \n\r \nA college degree? In that field?\r \n\r \nThen your arguments are invalid.\r \n\r \nNo, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.\r \n\r \nCorrelation does not equal causation.\r \n\r \nCORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.\r \n\r \nYou still haven't provided me a valid source yet.\r \n\r \nNope, still haven't.",
"What song?\n\n*edit: From youtube comments: \n> Dakk Attakk TTV \n> 7 days ago \n> Song/Music: N's Farewell - Pokemon B&W Ft: Pokemon Symphonic Evolutions\n\nExample https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2R_VNWtYHQ",
"It literally was within their rules then. It only was a violation after they changed the rules years later. Seriously, are you this stupid?",
"I wanna hear the Migos rap these lyrics",
"He died as he lived...telling pedos to go die in a ditch",
"Do you choose what you are attracted to? Can you just decide to be attracted to the different gender than you are now? Can you decide to be into really old people on a whim?",
"But 'gay' means \"wants to fuck the same sex.\" 'Pedophile' means \"wants to fuck children.\" Sure, buddy up there might have unfuckable kids, but he's got a lot more reason to keep them away from pedos than he does from gays.",
"F",
"Not sure why you use him as an example since he did not get the death penalty. He got 21 years in prison, ofc they can extend it if they warrant it but that is his sentence atm.",
"Twitter wanting investments and advertisers don’t like edgytales?",
"I laughed harder than I should have",
"holy fucking shit im crying",
"why would someone willingly choose to live such a shit life? both ethically and how others treat you.",
"I just looked up Blair White's YT channel and it's an amalgamation of all the alt-right cliches that are non-issues in the real world.\n\nIf these are your sources I'm more inclined to believe it's another thing blown out of proportion by the conservative rabbit hole.",
"Umm. I gave you a Democrat Socialist also. But hey, don't bother looking if you dislike what you might find.",
"o7",
"Sure... let's go with \"evil corporate money grab conspiracy\" instead of \"obvious trademark violation\".",
"That's ultimately why this account got suspended. VeggieTales is a recognized brand, and Twitter isn't going to take a risk letting an account like that stay out. Fun is fun, but they should have done it without impersonating a recognizable brand.",
"...any more...",
"ARUGULA...\n\nRADISHES...\n\nBOTH OF EM BITTER...\n\nNOW GETCH YO ASS UP OFF OF TWITTER",
"Isis was a great spy agency and a great band",
"Suspended for cussing and wishing death on pedos.\n\nOkay Twitter.",
"Agreed. It's such a terrible habit to define any group by its worst members.",
"I'm saying he should have gotten the death penalty. \n\n\nAnd yeah he might have gotten \"21 years in prison\" but lets be realistic here, he is never ever coming out after what he did. He would be hunted down.",
"but again, you are defining a group by the actions of the few.",
"Queer people have been around since, at least, cave paintings. I mean the political movement you know today.",
"Is being homosexual a choice?",
"so a 17 year old can “consent” but because they are so young it might not really legally count?",
"They managed to survive 7 years though.",
"lol wtf who is Megan",
"But why do they have to make themselves known and make an initialism and act like a community? Can’t they do this shit in private?",
"Someone he’s over.",
"No. I am judging them by the actions of the majority. But are you claiming that because only a few KKK members kill black people then it is wrong to judge them? Just to make sure your reasoning works that is.",
"He won’t be coming out which I find better than state executions. I don’t people should ever be killed as a result of a court of law. His death wouldn’t bring back his victims and would not solve any issues.",
"No, it’s normalizing. If you’re a non active pedo, keep it to yourself and get treatment and stop trying to spread awareness about your community.",
"Not sure how you don't get that people's opinion can differ from a court ruling. Some people believe some people are irredeemable. Others do not. There are courts on all over the world that vary on the death penalty and in those places there are people that disagree. Hope this helps. I assume u/thialase was in favor of the death penalty for Anders Breivik.",
"Wouldn’t apart in this grammatical context be impossible? Apart of just doesn’t make sense and you could safely dismiss that alternative for the grammatically possible a part of.",
"choosing a thought doesn't even make philosophical sense. It doesn't matter the thought.",
"No.",
"Don't watch their videos, they're just trolls looking for attention. Don't give it to them (or the ad revenue that comes with it)",
"Correct.\n\nJust like a CEO standing over an intern can make them \"consent\", but the question of whether that actually counts can take months to decide in a court.",
"That's the thing. They AREN'T being discreet, they are fucking ADVERTISING what they are. I am fully aware that there are paedophiles who are getting help for their condition and trying to do nothing other than be productive members of society. Rest assured though, these \"nomaps\" are not in that demographic.",
"Is ShoeOnHead the democrat one? Her videos are as clickbaity and obnoxious as the other 2. As you will understand I'm not going to open every video to see where she mentions the NOMAP topic.\n\nNot that she's much credible than the other 2. All 3 of your sources just seem like they'd make a mountain out of a single tweet.",
"I’d like to think this is an official Twitter page set up by the Veggietales company and left in charge with one sole employee that slowly descended into madness.",
"There has been proof of there being a genetic quirk that triggers paedophilia. Specifically the body’s age based attraction limiter. This removes the natural biological instinct to not want to have she’s with children. These people need to be destigmatised so we avoid them bottling it up and eventually snapping and raping children.",
">it’s normal to be a NOMAP. \n\nFuck off you sick cunt. I ain’t gonna be called one of your own, neither do I nor the largest percentage of humans alive today in the developed world are sexually aroused or attracted by minors on a normal basis. \n\nYOUR archaic view of things is what’s twisted. There’s nothing normal about it. Get help.",
"Ever heard of a vocal minority?",
"/u/auddbot excuse me sir? What's the song in the video?",
"1. Wishing death on people is not accepted in the Twitter terms of service. \n\n2. They were banned two years later. \n\n3. Probably for reasons connected to them impersonating the real company.",
"Sorry, I couldn't recognize the song.\n\nI tried to identify music from the [link](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g5VbFbV0Lek) at 00:00-00:24.\n\n*I am a bot and this action was performed automatically* | [GitHub](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot) [^(new issue)](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/issues/new)",
"Hate how mainstream the internet has gotten where shit like this gets shut down.",
"I'm still sending it to my former youth leader. She made me watch every fucking episode because she was too lazy to teach us Christianity one summer, and I respect the hot vegetable ass out of that.",
"He doesnt think about Megan okay plz come back",
">keep it to yourself and get treatment\n\nWhat treatment would that be? They're demonized by people like you for even trying to get help. \n\nWhy don't you just keep to yourself and stop commenting online, you'll make the world a better place.",
"Heres a video on a non offending pedophile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yWklRbXDOY and in depth look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT8JVVlGIEA",
"Bruh hate to burst your bubble or advocate for pedos but it was totally normal for the last few thousand years except for the last 50 to be fucking as soon as you reached sexual maturity which is like 13 /15 years old",
"How? Are you actually going to defend adults who willingly go out and fuck kids?\n\nAlso, the fact that your comment has 13 upvotes in response to me saying people who again...LITERALLY FUCK CHILDREN should be confined in a jail cell for life shows we're going downhill as a society.",
"That's cuz the fool that ran that shit never posted any veggie tale facts. It was just the random musings from a bitter lonely man.",
"This is the real reason Twitter is shit. The best accounts keep getting banned.",
"People who get help are fine, the ones who act on their urges and diddle with kids intentionally are the ones that deserve to be thrown in a woodchipper.",
"Uh def shouldnt be vocal.",
"I’m really invested in Megan and Carot now",
"> it’s normal to be a NOMAP.\n\nNo it isn't, this is what I mean with the normalizing of pedophilia. You aren't advocating for child rape, but you are trying to make it seem like being attracted to children \"isn't a big deal\".",
"And then there are people like you who accuse anybody who sticks up for those that can't defend themselves a pedo. Quality contribution.",
"Nope",
"This video was posted 5 months ago",
"I don't know, I'm not a pedophile",
"I'm not saying they're normalizing abuse, they're normalizing being attracted to minors. They're trying to get it into the head of society that \"being attracted to minors is normal, and ok\". Well it's fucking not, and I don't know if you are a pedophile, but imho pedophile defenders are no better than pedophiles.",
"Are you saying attraction to genders is the same as attraction to ages?\n\nAre u smoking something?",
"Bullshit. You're born gay. You aren't born a pervert. Comparing a perversion and compulsion with sexuality is completely f\\*cked.\n\nSo what about rapists? There's people who have no interest in \"normal\" sex and only fantasize and commit rape. They live in the shadows and cannot openly \"come out.\" Are we going to compare them with closeted gays now too? Both them and pedos ruin lives to satisfy their own sick urges. Pedos all deserve jail, not understanding, or support.\n\nNow, back to my programs.",
"No, as in you only hear from the worst 10% of a community because they complain the loudest. Not trying to make any claims about any community, just sharing a concept.",
"Pedophile defenders are no better than pedophiles, as their aim is to normalize them, so yeah to me regardless of if you're sexually attracted to kids, defending pedophiles makes you one.",
"> attempting to piggyback on LGBTQ\n\n...Y- you don't say....",
"Yeah, for _them_ to be fucking amongst themselves and what not. But read what MAPS and NOMAPS are; the same type of 30-40 year old fucks the likes of bronies and extreme weebs who sexually fantasize and arouse themselves with minors, child’s cartoons or cartoon children.",
"Fuck the police, root vegetables comin' straight from the underground.",
"thank you!",
"Imagine dismissing multiple sources over whether pedophiles are doing pedophile things because your political alignments get in the way.",
"No I am making a distinction between actual abusers and people who despite their attraction choose not to act on it. Non offenders should be treated as what they are - people with a mental health issue.",
"> However if equivalent other subs are being quarantined and banned it should be treated the same.\n\nRIP fatpeoplehate. They didn't even doxx like the hermancain assholes do.",
"And juicy",
"Because they want to normalize and desensitize, and the screwed up part is that some people are so stupid that they go along with it. This is something these people should be talking to psychiatrists about, not forming groups and trying to educate others.",
"That would be a no then",
"And most murders aren't committed by psychopaths, doesn't mean I want to spend my team around them.",
"I guess we all should say some words. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"You can vax my vegetable ass\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\nRIP",
"Huh",
"well agreed and exactly what it is.. IE we've certainly got alcoholics, or gambling addicts etc... Perfectly cool to have a gambling addict friend... and if he can come clean with you about his problem... then you know not to leave him in charge of holding your groups vacation fund while staying at a hotel with a casino.\n\n\nActually that's where I'd say the big thing for pedophiles is, IMO the level of stigma does need to go down, in the sense that a pedophile/MAP can tell people \"listen I have this problem, don't put me in a situation where I'm alone with children\".",
"So \"real\" pedophiles are part of the LGBT community? I'm confused as to what you mean. I was of the understanding that they werent.",
">Can’t they do this shit in private?\n\nThat's how humans been doing it so far, yes. If you're a pedophile, you are heavily incentivized to repress it and never seek help, as there apparently is no benefit from acknowledging or admitting that you are one. I don't **believe** that this has historically been particularly effective at curbing abuse, do you?\n\n>community\n\nI mean, if there are going to be pedophiles anyway, which I assume there always will be for the foreseeable future, they **should** have a community to support them and have a public model for how they should live their lives. These people are sick, like drug addicts. Arguably, unlike drug addicts there was no possible way for them to avoid this affliction either. They need help and support to identify their problem, do they not?\n\nThe only real issue is how the community manifests/conducts itself. If we oppose the formation of any community, even one designed to curb abuse and guide pedophiles on the right path, what incentive is there for them to make a community that is upright, and not just one that is made in reaction to the world's hatred of them?\n\nTo put it simply, I don't think most pedophiles would've voluntarily chosen to be pedophiles.",
"edit: TO PREFACE, ACTING ON PEDOPHELIA IS EVIL. IF YOU EXPERIENCE ATTRACTION TO CHILDREN, GET HELP!!!! \n\nlook, i never thought i'd be defending pedophiles on the internet, but that's a false equivalency. to join the KKK is an entirely conscious decision made out of hatred of a people based on their race/skin color. some guy/girl finding themselves attracted to young people doesn't decide to be attracted to them any more than a gay person decides to be attracted to the same sex. \n\ni respect that some individuals recognize their innate immorality and try to live a life without hurting others based on desires they have no choice over. yes, we all want to scream \"pedophiles evil\", because pedophilia is inherently immoral (since it will always result in mentally scarring another human), but sometimes it's necessary to look past the surface in order to examine an individual's true motivations and feelings. yes, acting on pedophilia is evil. i am IN NO WAY saying it isn't.\n\nthat being said, they are real people and they deserve treatment/training of a sort so they can become positive contributing members of society who do not act on their impulses.",
"Did you just compare pedos to homosexuals? \n\nYea... Stay away from kids mate. You're on a list.",
"Nah 4chan hates pedos. This is the type of shit that defends the antifa pedophile that tried to rape/kill Rittenhouse and give them nicknames like \"JoJo\" i.e. Mark Ruffalo.",
"well I imagine it's the same reason that people regularly use the word pedophile as if it means the same thing as child molester. It's like if someone says they are an alcoholic. If they don't specify they haven't had a drink in 5 years, you'd assume they drink constantly currently.",
"is it like 20 pedophiles doing this or thousands of them? honestly asking i'm not much into pedophile lore/canon",
">yes, we all want to scream \"pedophiles evil\", because pedophilia is inherently immoral\n\nExactly, you can't treat the mental illness if all you do is demonise people unfortunate enough to be afflicted with this.",
">your political alignments\n\nThey just said they all seem obnoxious regardless of alignment. \n\nPost the relevant video of your grievance, if you can't find it after watching it, how do you expect a random person to sift through hours of irrelevant footage?",
"o",
"This is a pretty close minded view imo. Some people need and want help but are reluctant to do extensive research. There are people suffering from depression and other mental illnesses that won't seek out help even though that info is readily available to them. I would rather a pedo seek help for their problems then to just sit there and hope they dont act on it at some point. \n\nI'll agree that normalizing it and giving a platform for the handfuls of people that will seek to abuse it, is not great looks. But for the people who do need help and dont know where to start, having that info available for them is a good way to get them started on getting help. Maybe we as a society arent ready to accept people who know they have a problem and are trying to fix it. But to me, the small positive is that there are people seeking help for themselves and if having the info out there helps prevent another victim to child sexual abuse, then I'm okay with it.",
"Imagine deciding that some class of mentally ill folks shouldn’t be allowed to self-advocate just because their mental illness offends you personally.",
"> It's just pedophiles attempting to piggyback on LGBTQ rights.\n\nYup. The second someone uses the term MAP, you can be sure they are actively defending pedophiles and child sexual abuse. They are also trying to get attraction to children/pedophilia recognized as a sexual orientation the same as being gay, or bi, or pan or whatever else, and thus they want the same rights and protections. Which in this case means, protection from being arrested for abusing kids. When we don't even know if that is the case (I'm a psychologist who studies human sexuality and criminality, so, right where this sort of stuff exists). We do know it can be a paraphilia. We do know that some people never respond to treatment (which may make an argument for it as an orientation, doesn't change that their actions directly harm children so even if it may be an orientation, it can't be protected).\n\nThey are really, really, *really* subverse about it too. They pretend they are acting in the best interest of children. Trying to prevent children from being harmed. That they want to end child sexual abuse.\n\nBut how do they wanna end child sexual abuse? Why by making it legal of course! \"If only the kids knew about sex and sexuality when they were younger, they could consent\" is very legitimately their argument. They also pretend to be investigating why people are attracted to children, in the name of saying \"See, such% of the population is like this, so it needs to be normalized\". Or investigating the harm done to children so they can say \"Well see, if they weren't taught it was bad, they wouldn't think of it as bad\".\n\nI'm 100% serious about this too.\n\nThey also advocate in the interests of child sexual predators. They say they are \"stigmatized\" or \"dehumanized\". If you read their stuff, it's never really about the kids, it's really about the predator and how they want to be case in a new or different light. It's about advocating for the predator.\n\nFor example: https://www.csaprimaryprevention.org/incorrect-terminology.html\n\nNotice who's listed first? Huh. Notice how they are to be addressed in kinder nicer terms?\n\nSometimes it seems benign. Like: https://www.csaprimaryprevention.org/a-right-to-their-body.html\n\nSure. Kids have a right to their body. But it gets weird when they keep emphasizing that \"they get to choose what happens to their bodies\". Especially when the \"sexual education\" is about how \"children develop sexually too\" (they don't, children have no interest in sex, adolescents do). And they keep emphasizing that \"its up to the child who touches them and they should never feel embarrassed about who they do stuff with\". Again, sounds great, up until you realize it's literally just grooming them and telling them that its ok if an adult touches them as long as the child says its ok. Never mind that a child can **never** consent to an adult touching them sexually, and that a child can easily be groomed and manipulated into thinking this stuff. It's harmful because it's so insidious. https://www.csaprimaryprevention.org/sexual-education.html\n\nOther times, it's just outright pro-pedophilia: https://www.csaprimaryprevention.org/supporting-maps.html\n\n\"Supporting minor attracted people\" First of all. Ew.\n\nSecond. Notice anything? Oh yeah, it's the only page with sources lol. Also the sources have all been poorly read and understood and the words or findings twisted to support pedophiles.\n\nGo look at the \"support\" tab too. Huh. Supports for victims is at the very bottom. Interesting.\n\nThese people are active on reddit. That site was made by u/TNF_13. Feel free to check out their post submissions. With wonderful titles like \"MAP hate is still hate\".\n\nTrust me. Stay away from anyone who uses the term MAP. They are advocating for child sexual abusers and pedophiles.",
"And that's what we call \"dodging the question\" and trying to single out anything at all in the others comment to make yourself right. You know what I meant, I know, everyone else know, just answer the question or don't answer at all instead of this shit.\n\nBtw the gender derailing doesn't even work here, I'm only asking you personally if you can decide what you are attracted to. I never implied that any of them is the same, you did by comprehending it that way.",
"I'm not an expert on this topic, though it's probably more than a few since I'd heard of it.",
"The Civil Rights movement? Why don't you say it in plain language if it's so important?",
"Anyone who wants to fuck kids deserves to be shot in the head. Don't be a typical reddit \"well pedophilia can't be THAT bad\" kind of cunt.",
"Pedophile doesn’t mean child molester though. I’m sure people equate it but someone can jack off to thoughts of 3 year olds but that doesn’t mean he molests then",
"Why do you feel so adamant about defending pedophiles?",
"Gay folks in the middle east should get sympathy for very very very very very very very different reasons than pedophiles.\n\nLiterally no one will not support the concept of a pedophile trying not to offend. They're trying not to rape children for fucks sake. \n\nBut to say that's similar to a gay person in the middle east who has to keep normal parts of their identity a secret to not get murdered.. that's a fucking stretch my dude.\n\nIt's a shit tier comparison. And you have to look at your equation with the context of gay people being called pedophiles for the last however many years.\n\nEdit: NOMAPs is a concept that tries to normalise and socialise pediphilia and cash it in as a social justice 'movement', and your comment buys into that farce by comparing it to gay folks in the middle east. Like the pedophilia community's strategy just worked on you, that's why people are getting narky in reply.",
"33 y/o checking in; literally laughed out loud. Doesn't happen often but this stupid shit got me good.",
"Huh? I literally said all 3 are clickbaity garbage. I can't even find the relevant content because 99% of the videos are them replying to some individual comment they got and making a huge deal out of it.",
"No him killing him self was a great injustice done to the jewish people. \n\n\nHitler not facing his crimes, not suffering the penalties was a great injustice.",
"How old did you think princesses got married off, my guy?",
"F",
"I think there's aspects to attraction we can decide to like and others that are \"baked in\" so to speak.\n\nI was just asking if age definitely belongs to one or the other",
"People still celebrated his death, rightfully so, which was my point. Justice would have also ended in his death.",
"I'm not attracted to children. My friends aren't attracted to children. My family aren't, nor is my wife. \n\nStop defending the sexualization of children.",
"Do you believed people choose their sexuality? Do you believe that people should be punished for the circumstances of their birth?",
"Both have nothing to do with the LGBTQ community.",
"I think that people that want to prey ok children are no better than animals. I DARE you to go to a survivor of abuse and tell them \"well you're a bigot, he was just a nomap and you should be more inclusive\" reddit is a hell hole, you fuckers have gone so far left that you are supporting child rape.",
"The difference is that the pedophile can manipulate a child, so you keep the pedophile away from your child. \n\nThe pedophile, if they are non-offending, should be very ok with parents keeping their children away from them.\n\nIt's very fucked up that you think those two situations are the same.",
"Not all pedophiles act out on their attraction ...",
"Thankfully I never said that...",
"> shows we're going downhill as a society.\n \n\nOut of curiosity. At what point in time would you consider society to be better then it is today? Be specific.",
"Well but why murder them if they don't hurt kids?!",
"> The difference is that the pedophile can manipulate a child\n\nNo, the difference is that most human beings are still capable of controlling their urges and will not act on them if they recognize them as bad urges.",
"Because there's a long history of people trying to make the public believe the LGBTQ community is associating with or advocating for pedophiles. For example, 4chan's \"clovergender\" hoax. Or an earlier \"LGBTP\" hoax. Making fake accounts with avatars featuring the MAP flag (which by no coincidence looks a lot like the trans flag) and using LGBTQ terms like \"ally\" while also being unabashed pedophiles would just be par for the course. Some of them may be real, this one may be real, but definitely not all of them.",
"Twitter allowed people to report *any* tweet from any time period for a recent rule change. \n\nUnsurprisingly it's been abused by groups who don't like their critics.",
"You are conflating pedophile with rapist. I’m not talking about people who have committed crimes. I’m talking about pedophiles who have never done anything illegal. \n\nDid you know that in most states non-offending pedophiles can’t safely seek help from a therapist due to mandatory reporting laws? \n\nImagine you’re born with a terrible mental illness that you’d really like to seek professional assistance for, but instead everyone around you says you’d be better off shot in the street or they accuse you of being a criminal even when you’ve never committed a crime. \n\nI’d say a person like that is really in need of some kind of advocacy group that can ensure therapy and professional help is available. \n\nWhen people with clinical depression seek professional help, it reduces the rate of suicide. If pedophiles are able to seek help, that’d probably reduce the rate of child rape, Y’know?",
"You have not listened to nomaps much have you? Yes, they are. Without a doubt.\n\nAnd why did you say 'we think'? Huh....",
"Spoken like a nomap",
"Pointing out a common phrase and taking it literally doesn't detract from the point of others defending people who willingly go out and screw underage people...**intentionally.**",
"Never said that either.",
"> he was just a nomap \n\narent they by definition not because they actually did offend?",
"I meant to put map there instead of nomap. Even nomap is disgusting because they still support the exploitation and abuse of children, if if they aren't the ones doing it themselves",
"Now say it in the voice of Bob the Tomato",
"No, they aren't, but trans people are, and that person has \"trans-MAP pride\" in their handle. You can make people hate pretty much anything if you can get them to associate it with pedophilia, so once being LGBTQ started becoming more socially acceptable, some of the narrative shifted to not just associating pedophiles with LGBTQ people, but to suggest that LGBTQ people *are* pedophiles.",
"It's like vegan but... Me..gan",
"Because people actively hate on them. If there wasn't a pitchfork carrying crusade and they could quietly get help without the news media having portrayed them as the boogeyman they might be more apt to live their lives in silence. It was others who took away that option.\n\nTo be fair I used to be part of that problem. I was running around with a torch shouting how evil pedophiles were. When you don't understand a problem and label a group of people as pure evil you just make shit worse, and now they have to educate society because people misunderstand the difference between pedophiles and child molesters. They also take away the chance for them to live normally, which makes it harder to not cross that line.\n\nAlso, as far as groups of people go, they deserve a lot of compassion and pity. Nobody chooses their attractions, and life dealt them an absolute raw deal. Anyone out there just asking for the right to get help deserves it, because instead of being vilified they should be treated with respect as long as they don't lay hands on a child. I can't imagine how hard it is going through life like that. I'm a diabetic with a sweet tooth and fuck me is it hard, but these people don't get a single cheat day in life.\n\nOnce I learned more about labeling theory, the way mistreatment increases their chance of turning into offenders, I realized how me being a douchebag was really just poking a hornet's nest so that I could feel self righteous.",
"\"They should have done it without impersonating a recognizable brand.\"\n\nOh so they should have done it in a way that neuters the entire conceit of the gimmick?\n\nFuck you nerd, you're why we can't have nice things.",
"> Even nomap is disgusting because they still support the exploitation and abuse of children, if if they aren't the ones doing it themselves\n\nhow so? i'd consider consuming or encouraging child porn in any way also to be an offense.",
"Yeah fuck all that",
"Okay, dial it back a bit there, Quentin Tarentino.",
"Watch videos and they advocate they should be allowed to but don't because it is illegal. Your middle east comparison is I threshing though since they also don't have gay sex because the laws though they can rape because it is legal. Your argument seem to say that outlawing rape would make it immoral but it is moral now instead of understanding the difference in actual morals.\n\nMany of these MAPS like to talk how it should be legal because it was ok 500 years ago and biology or I've seen a few argue the legality in other nations means they are not sick and the laws are the problem that need to change.\n\nSo do you compare gay sex in the Middle East with 9 year old brides that are legal and morally acceptable there?",
"yea you are right pedos could be using stuff similar to lgbts symbols and words and that makes them also target for trolls to use them to discredit LGBTQ discourse.",
"Except a gay or straight persons urge is for relationship or sex with an adult capable of consent, and the other urge is to rape a child...\n\nI'm going to keep my children far away from the person who is fighting urges to rape my child. I'll support them in there endeavours to seek professional support with their condition. I'm all for full medical support of those folks.\n\nI will also not allow my children (if I have any) to be around pedophiles. \n\nA pedophile who is committed to not offending will not put themselves in contact with children anyway, this is a weird hill for you to stand on.",
">\tThis is a pretty close minded view imo. Some people need and want help\n\nThey also can't get it. My wife worked 10+ years in prisons and one offender on her caseload had a fairly tragic story. He went to Charter Beacon and asked for help telling them if he didn't get help with his issues he would end up raping a child. They turned him away. And that's why he ended up on her case load in a men's maximum security prison. Our country's complete failure to provide mental health services leads to children getting raped.\n\nIf only we had a safety net where these people could get judgment free help. We could save so many children if people felt they could self identify and get help without it ending their life. We live in a society where it's safer for them to rape children in secret than get help, because the moment anyone gets identified as a pedophile their life ends even if they've never laid hands on a child.\n\nThe problem I run into with so many people is their hatred of pedophiles outweighs everything else. When people care more about hurting pedophiles than helping the children something is wrong. The whole goal here is to protect kids.",
"This is one thing that I honestly just do not understand. Of course offending pedophiles are scumbags, but what is a person to do if their brain is just inexplicably wired different? As far as I can tell there is absolutely no support structure for this type of mental disorder so is it any wonder when those who are at risk of offending do so? Surely if we truly cared about the welfare of children we would give people an avenue to seek help, but I guess it's easier to be bloodthirsty and call for their death. It's so frustrating.",
"Cancel culture has gone too far",
"based veggietales facts",
"why bother making a comparison to closeted queer people in \"the middle east\"? I don't know why these perverts always get so much support on reddit. imagine if, instead of being closeted pedophiles, they were people who secretly wanted to sexually assault you personally. or someone you love. yes, you specifically, or yes, that person specifically. how ready would you be to sympathize with them? wouldn't you rather tell them to get fucked?",
"> and applying it to the rest of us\n\nIt kinda sounded like you're claiming to be a MAP?",
"I was devastated when I found out.",
"they arent, but they try to be seen as part of it and compare themselves to it a lot",
"There is no legitimate comparison between pedophiles and gay people. It is not 'my comparison', someone else made the comparison and I'm saying it's utter bullshit used by pedophiles to coopt concepts of social justice where there is no merit.\n\nPeople in support of pedophilia compare it to being gay.\n\nI'm not even sure if your comment is in reply to mine because I didn't mention the law at all.",
"F",
"Yet he nailed it, not like all the pedos downvoting.",
"There's no official sign-up sheet for \"the LGBT community\" that any authority can/does gatekeep (and that's a good thing). But since at least the first three of those letters have made some pretty major advancements in getting general cultural acceptance, everyone else is trying to say \"hey if you accept them you should accept us too.\" They're a part of the community in the sense that they're declaring themselves a part of it because they're apart from vanilla and want the cultural shift to apply to them, but they're not a part of it because they're also apart from most of the LGBT community.",
"> They had no idea of what maga is.\n\nOne of your finer points of logic.",
"Damn lgbt lore",
"you sound like a pedo",
"Your right, sorry.",
"The question was about fucking children and I showed what our laws have been for fucking children. And everyone who wants to downvoted it in fear of self awareness. People against fucking children would respond differently.",
"> someone at VeggieTales\n\nI thought that place went bankrupt?",
"That's a shit answer and you know it, engage a bit of emotional intelligence and have a think.",
"I’m reading these all in the Fairly Oddparents theme song tone, where Timmy’s going “obtuse, rubber goose, green juice…” :D",
"I hope Hitler dies.",
"That you're aware of. If they were, you think they'd risk becoming a pariah by telling you?",
"Even if a company goes bankrupt, the IP remains the property of the creator or another company can buy it up at a firesale. It doesn't become public domain.\n\nBig Entertainment went bankrupt and everything was sold to Classic Media (since then, they've been sold to Comcast). VeggieTales is still very much alive and releasing new shows on NetFlix right now via Universal Pictures.",
"Well yes of course. I won't argue with that. But that's why saying that all pedos deserve death isn't a good idea, unless of course you only define pedos as the ones that actually do act (or plan to act) on it. Which is why the distinction is usually made.",
"No it isn't.",
"If you want someone to debate you just provide the source materiel. Don't make them go hunting through clickbaity videos. \n\nIt does nothing but take away from any legitimate argument you might make and waste their time.",
"I think I see where you're coming from, but if a person tells a therapist they have just always had a strong natural urge to murder people, then of course the therapist should report this to the police. If a person can barely keep themselves from having sex with children, how can we not react the same? I'm not saying they should be shot in the head but I think it's hard to say they should just go to a support group and walk free and everyone just hopes they figure things out. Maybe the person wants to change and that's commendable, but what if they don't change? It's a terrifyingly dangerous thing for a society to expose their children to.",
"Our current system is one in which they are forced to remain hidden AND receive no clinical assistance; how is that any better?\n\nMandatory reporting for people who express a desire to harm/Kill themselves or others is far more rare than mandatory reporting for pedophiles.",
"yummy!",
"Yea but the Taliban is a-ok. Nice.",
"Okay Mr Trump!",
"[Decent video from VICE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yWklRbXDOY) ~8min\n\n[Decent interview with a \"virtuous\" pedophile](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fx6P7d21o) ~10min\n\n[Shoe calling out MAPs moving to Twitter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfEgDiRe7_I) ~8min\n\n[Shoe responding to a MAP that responded to her video on MAPs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUX3Q1a1GQ) ~11miin\n\n[Shoe responding to another MAP that responded to her video on MAPs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMH2s5faliI) ~11min\n\n[Shoe responding to... you get it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vux3-uFNtLw) ~6min\n\n[Shoe looking into a \"Child Protection\" organization called Prostasia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg49x9NvOeI) ~23 min\n\n[Prostasia interview with Allyn Walker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Bax5uQEVs) if you want to hear directly from them. ~29 min\n\nIf you want to see more, simply searching \"what is a map\" or \"what is a nomap\" on youtube will get you similar videos.",
"They don't need to face demonization, their therapist should be able to deal with their condition discretely and without coining a \"politically correct\" term. The idea that we should all adjust our views to normalize their condition only serves to reduce the impact of their actions in society. This is not normal behavior, and we certainly aren't looking for \"appropriate terminology\" for other abnormal psychological conditions. Psychopaths aren't \"reality challenged,\" they're psychopaths. We have a word for pedophiles, and it carries the connotation it does not because the word is particularly special, but because the act is heinous. I agree that these people need help, but normalizing their condition does nothing to help them. It makes it easier for them to go about their lives without judgement. The pressure society places on them to not act on urges should be their motivation to get help. Instead this sets out to remove societal pressure to protect their feelings. I'm sorry but if we're picking who gets to have their feelings hurt, I pick the pedo.",
"No, my aim is have fewer abused children and fewer untreated pedophiles. Your solution to the problem is to just completely ignore it while something like 2% of teachers, priests, etc. are closeted pedophiles either offending or at risk of offending.\n\nRather than just accepting the casualties, why not normalize seeking help for the problem? Chemical castration or whatever else to kill the sex drive, etc. or whatever other treatments are available would allow them to continue on with their lives without fear of offending and 1 or more kids get to grow up without being sexually abused.\n\nTake a step back and think of it in a less sensitive subject. Schizophrenia. So, before there were treatments for schizophrenia, think of what it must have been like. You'd hear on the news another person just freaked out and killed some people, was arrested, and then was diagnosed schizophrenic. The only thing you ever hear about schizophrenia is when someone freaks out and does something awful. Society says schizophrenia = randomly going to freak out and kill people, or hurt yourself, etc.\n\nIn that situation, what do you do as someone who is hearing voices or having violent thoughts? Who can you disclose that to? How do you seek help without worrying about being locked up? The answer is it's much more difficult to, and as a result, a lot more people end up having an episode and end up hurting themselves or others rather than getting the help they need to minimize the risk of an episode.\n\nYou can check my post history, I very rarely talk about pedophilia because it's not something I think about, lol. Like I would be surprised if in my entire account history, I have 5 comments about it, and most of them are something to the effect of \"they're people, too, they deserve basic legal rights and not immediate execution.\" I'm not some weird activist trying to spread some evil message and abuse kids. Or you can think I am, whatever. I don't really care. You're the one who's filled with hate at the end of the day, I don't have to deal with all that baggage.",
"Please spread your deranged lunacy elsewhere. \n\nThanks",
"It's funny you're so laser focused on pedophiles that you forgot about something: the victims. Normalizing getting help and treatment for pedophilia will reduces the number of children that are abused. Why are you so focused on lynching pedophiles looking for treatment instead of trying to find ways to reduce the number of kids that fall victim to offending pedophiles?",
"I mean normal would mean regular, expected, typically occurring in most people. Any number of conditions have existed since recorded history began, that doesn't mean all of those conditions are considered normal.",
"It goes both ways jackass. Sure some of these people will be getting help, meanwhile the \"MAPs\" will be slowly integrated into society and earn waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much sympathy and trust.",
"Okay, then hate those specific people rather than generalizing every single person. There's a lot of hate specifically for even pedos that want help, support, etc. Realize that normalize getting treatment, etc. and joining support groups, etc. can make it more appealing to get treated to those who are on the fence. Take a hard stance against anything that moves the law regarding sex with minors, immediately shut that shit down, and instead focus on pushing for acceptance of getting treatment and continue to attach negative stigma to *not* seeking treatment. \n\nThis is not specifically targeted at you, but more of a multipurpose response to both respond to you and also further elaborate for those that are still in the \"ignore the problem and demonize\" camp.",
"> Take a step back and think of it in a less sensitive subject. Schizophrenia.\n\nLast I checked schizophrenics don't sexually assult kids, or at least don't go about it like pedophiles do, and it isn't the same as people who have a drive to assult kids. Even if they're messed up in the head, pedophiles at least have a \"clear mind\". \n\n> In that situation, what do you do as someone who is hearing voices or having violent thoughts? Who can you disclose that to? How do you seek help without worrying about being locked up?\n\nAs someone who is severely depressed, I've gone through this, being judged by my peers and threatened to be sent to a mental hospital because of it. And I found that if you truly want to change, you'll will the ability to ask for proper help from a doctor in confidence. But how many pedophiles would willingly chemically castrate themselves?\n\n> they're people, too, they deserve basic legal rights and not immediate execution\n\nSome people, including those who have had their lives messed up by them, disagree.\n\nOn a side note, I was someone who has had his live messed up by a pedophile. I'm someone recovering, and trying to make the most from the trama, that my mind will replay. I'm someone who will have full on panic attacks and depression episodes. I'm someone who has tried to kill themselves because of these monsters. Because they are the monsters that kids need to be fearful for, because these monsters unlike those under their beds actually exist.\n\n> Chemical castration or whatever else to kill the sex drive, etc. or whatever other treatments are available would allow them to continue on with their lives without fear of offending and 1 or more kids get to grow up without being sexually abused.\n\nI doubt any of them would willingly do these treatments. I legitimately don't think these people can change with other treatments. And I'm speaking from experience as my attacker was forced to get treatment after they attacked a kid prior. Didn't really work for them.\n\n> I'm not some weird activist trying to spread some evil message and abuse kids. \n\nYou're a pedophile who, while not acting on their instincts, is trying to bring a mentality that pedophiles aren't bad as long as they don't act on it. I very much disagree, and hardly see people like you as actual people. I see you more as monsters.\n\nAnd the disgusting thing is, you're clearly not alone here. There are a lot of pedophile and pedophile defenders here in this part of the thread. But I know, like most people, that no matter how much you guys group up, no matter how many downvotes you throw my way, you are monsters who don't have a place in society. And as a future dad, my anger and resentment is hard to contain.",
"A true hero, gone but never forgotten.",
"> cheering on the death of anyone should be banned\n\nWhich is basically what every \"some conservative died of covid\" story really is, though. It's /r/hermancainaward on a weekly basis.\n\n\"Oh, but we're totally not celebrating\" - Yes you are.",
"Toddlers can't even consent to what they want to eat for dinner. Anyone who thinks prepubescent (literally not ready for sex) children can consent to anything sexual is deranged.",
"I mean practically speaking, same experience. \n\nYeah there's an ethical difference and a different \"ideal outcome\" from our perspective, but the day-to-day situation probably feels the same way for both of them. \n\nThough I do get why gay people (men in particular) really, really, really don't want it seen that way, given all the gay/pedophile conflation. I can forgive them that bit of self-preservation instinct.",
"Uh, no? The recidivism on pedophiles is incredibly high, so if they are an offending pedophiles, chances are they will continue to be. A lot of these people aren't the people you're thinking of, they're mentally challenged people who can barely control their base instincts. Trust me, as the son of a public defender who also interned with him all throughout high school, every single pedophile he represented was 100% guilty and there was just something... weird about them. That is the large majority of offending pedophiles (that get caught anyway, but pedophilia typically comes with a bunch of other behavioral issues, so I'd be willing to be that's a large portion of the total pedophile population, as well). They should be locked up for life after their first offense unless there is a treatment that is shown to reduce their rate of recidivism by a substantial amount. I haven't looked into treatment success rate, etc., so I'm not sure if that exists or not.",
"Wait - hating the taliban makes me Trump? This is quite a silly place.",
" hermancainaward should probably be banned too. \n\n\nBUT \n\n\nYou can cheer for the deaths of terrorists anti vaxxers are biological terrorists thus its okay to cheer for the death of anti vaxxers",
"Ethically, you should sympathize. Practically, it's reasonable and forgivable for you to focus more on yourself and your own preservation. \n\nBuuuut that's why we don't let crime victims pick a criminal's sentence. We understand emotion gets the better of all of us, and know that what we as a society ought to do is best dictated by people whose heartrate doesn't speed up just thinking about the person in question. We've gotta let our hearts inform our heads, rather than letting our hearts rule every decision.",
"That adult people can control their urges? The fuck is your problem? You think everybody with those feelings is some kind of animal who MUST act on them?",
"And while I agree in principle, pretty much every offending paedophile claims to be non-offending, obviously. There was even an article published by someone claiming to be a non-offending paedophile a few years back, turned out to be actively grooming kids.\n\nIt also worrys a lot of us because we have experiences where our sexual libido overrode the conscious part of our brain telling us it was a bad idea. For most people that just means an awkward morning, maybe a short shitty relationship. Not the statutory rape of a child.\n\nIt's one of the things along with sociopathy/psychopathy that we could really do with a cure for, or at least the ability to detect in the womb. Because it's a bitch to work out who we have to worry about, and there's no good solution once we have.",
"> There was even an article published by someone claiming to be a non-offending paedophile a few years back, turned out to be actively grooming kids.\n\nSee, the problem you have here is confirmation bias. You know of a few pretty awful anecdotally relevant points that support your position, so you assume they're globally true -- but that's incorrect. Why do you think anyone who can and does control their urges would make any headlines? The whole point is that they suppress it successfully.",
"> On a side note, I was someone who has had his live messed up by a pedophile. I'm someone recovering, and trying to make the most from the trama, that my mind will replay. I'm someone who will have full on panic attacks and depression episodes. I'm someone who has tried to kill themselves because of these monsters. Because they are the monsters that kids need to be fearful for, because these monsters unlike those under their beds actually exist.\n\nThat's all I needed to read to understand. I'm sorry you had to go through that, and I hope you realize that we both have the same goal (I imagine?): to reduce the number of kids that get abused. Take a look at [this response](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rjz2cq/veggietales_facts_twitter_suspended_lmao/hp8ytz9/?context=3) to another commenter for my stance on offending pedophiles (tl;dr: life in prison unless there is a treatment that would essentially remove their risk of reoffending entirely.)\n\nI wasn't equating schizophrenia and pedophilia, I was giving an analogous situation. I'm not sure we have much data on what percentage of pedophiles offend because it's way too stigmatized for the responses to be reliable. I was equating schizophrenics that have a violent episode to offending pedophiles. Both are people whose brains are not \"wired\" right who have a public, damaging episode that involves someone else and how the public perception of those specific episodes develops as a result. Then you can kinda infer the whole treatment = ultimate goal because it reduces the number of victims and sufferers of the mental illness.\n\nAnd notice that you're directly attacking me, but I've said nothing negative about you at all. You're suggesting I'm a pedo, which I'm not. If you wanna see my agenda, go search my entire comment history for the word pedo or pedophile or whatever and see that I don't talk about this shit. I made a passing comment that got a lot of attention, and now I have people like you calling me a pedo because I am suggesting that maybe we shouldn't just ignore the problem, demonize pedos, and accept the current rate of abuse as an acceptable casualty.",
"That is in fact what normal means:\n\nnormal[ nawr-muhl ]\n\n1.conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.\n\n2. serving to establish a standard.\n\n3. Psychology.\n \n a. approximately average in any psychological trait, as intelligence, personality, or emotional adjustment.\n \n b. free from any mental disorder; sane.\n\nAnd usual doesn't mean 50% or over, but it definitely doesn't apply in regards to a small percentage of the population.\n\n> Normal in this context means occurring in humans naturally and consistently.\n\nAny number of mental afflictions occur consistently in every generation of humanity. Psychopaths have been with us since the dawn of time, that doesn't mean psychopathy is considered 'normal' or treated as a part of humanity. It's considered a disease and viewed as such. Now that doesn't mean we should ignore psychopaths, such people need to be treated with empathy. But it remains a mental condition.",
"Trade \"pedo\" with \"incel\", and you got reddit instead of FB or twitter.",
"\"I'd rather die standing than live kneeling\" - FUCK THE GOVERNMENT",
"You should actually try watching her video on the subject before dismissing her because of her thumbnails or titles.",
" > I hope you realize that we both have the same goal (I imagine?): to reduce the number of kids that get abused... life in prison\n\nMaybe. But I think we have entirely different ways we think would go about it, and mine can't be put into words as it would be rule breaking so you can use your imagination.\n\n> I've said nothing negative about you at all.\n\nYou don't need to? You're a pedophile, and I've put my thoughts down on how I feel about them. I don't have exemptions, as I don't believe that pedophiles can be trusted not to fall to their instincts and thoughts.\n\n> You're suggesting I'm a pedo, which I'm not. \n\nLiterally in the previous comment you worded it as if you are a \"nomap\". And as I've said in previous comments, pedophile defenders are basically the same thing, because in the end I believe they will be responsible for more kids being raped, at least in my opinion.\n\n> I don't talk about this shit. I made a passing comment that\n\nJust because you don't talk about it often doesn't mean that it isn't your view. And clearly, your view is that pedophiles are people that can be treated.\n\n> I am suggesting that maybe we shouldn't just ignore the problem, demonize pedos\n\nI am suggesting we should more. But my opinion won't change, and yours likely won't either, so there really isn't any more point here.",
"Lolno nothing to do with crm.\n\nAlso, jesus fucking christ, that username...",
"Suspended for its two leading characters technically actually being fruit.",
"This shit is wild, i was hyucking the whole way down the post history\n\n'\"carrot\" is spelled with a C but it sound like a K i don't want to die alone' https://twitter.com/RealCarrotFacts/status/562387487557824512?s=20",
"Lol it's literally what Trump keeps saying. It's been in his \"press releases\" for months.\n\n\"I got kicked off Twitter but the Taliban still has an account!\"\n\nI honestly thought you were trying to quote trump when you said that",
"yes you are.",
"Oh no does it offend you? Snowflake.",
"Dang it you were supposed to do the quote from the video.",
"Conflation of pedophilia with being gay is a tactic of pedophiles to normalise their attraction to children and coopt social justice movements. Or it's used as a bad faith argument to weakly cast stones at the gay community, or get people riled on reddit. There's no intellectually honest, justifiable reason to make that comparison. So which one are you?\n\nThe similarity is what, that gay folks are hated in the middle east as much as pedofiles here? So therefore the pedofiles here should get as much sympathy as the gay folks in the middle east? That's a ridiculously stupid, bad faith argument. Do you want pedophilia to be as accepted as homosexuality is here?",
"fuck the government.",
"Not what I was thinking, but that works.",
"The end of an era. RIP, you will be missed dearly.",
"Honestly surprised that account lasted so long, respect to the veggie tales people for not coming down on them years ago and letting them be weird with their product",
"I just woke my fiancé up giggling in bed at this.",
"> Conflation of pedophilia with being gay is a tactic of pedophiles to normalise their attraction to children and coopt social justice movements.\n\nNot primarily. It's more a thing homophobes have done in the past and continue to do in the modern day. Taking a modern example, Frank Herbert (the dude who wrote Dune) wrote Baron Harkonnen as a pederast who molested his nephew. The author held the opinion that homosexuals were given over to their appetites much like Harkonnen himself was, and that part of that involved having sex with anything and everything--no matter how unnatural or vile.\n\nThere's a very rich history of persecution of homosexuals on the basis of moral failing. I'd encourage you to read into it--it really helps in understanding modern depictions of members of the LGBT community, as well as the attitudes of a shocking percentage of people globally.",
"In modern day, homophobes who say that are quickly not listened too. In today's era, it's primarily a comparison made by the 'MAP' community (/4chan) now to try and coopt the LGBT social justice sympathy. I did mention the homophobes by the way.\n\nAnd I'm very aware of the persecution of gay people's based on moral failing. Hence why I'm here pointing out how silly it is to make comparisons like you have. You sound educated, but have made such a bad faith argument I'm at a loss as to how you get there.\n\nDo you believe pedophiles should be accepted as gay people are?",
"The account has been banned for a while. Long before Jack stepped down.",
"No, pedophiles can't ethically do what they want to do. While there are a lot of valid comparisons to be made that can inform our actions, the focus should be on avoiding harm to children or to pedophiles. \n\nI get why you resist those comparisons--the uneducated can and will misconstrue matters. ...At the same time, though, avoiding those comparisons is meant to protect the LGBT community (gay men in particular) at the cost of letting us miss those valuable lessons learned that gay men paid for in blood and suffering.\n\nIt seems inequitable, to me, to intentionally ignore history when choosing how to handle such an important problem.",
"That pedophiles cannot ethically fulfill there desires, and that gay people can is a drastic difference that undermines any comparison of their experiences. So while comparisons in general can be informative, bad faith comparisons can be equally harmful. It's the trick of a snake oil salesmen to tell you two different things are the same.\n\nWhat is your point? So far you've done very little other than make a broad comparison and then criticize points I haven't made. Now you are talking about ignoring history? What..? I have not said we should not ignore history, and you haven't mentioned anything which I have said we should ignore.\n\nHonestly, what is it that you want to say? You've said a lot of words to defend a claim the gay people are similar to pedofiles in some specific way, and you've done little else. What's the motivation?\n\nAnd who are you to talk about the blood and suffering of gay men being wasted, while you cast stones against them by making bad faith arguments about pedophilia?",
"I feel like you're using the words 'bad faith' wrong, lol. I was pretty clear about the what and the why. I apologize if the comparisons bother you, but it's unethical to stop making them. I'm open to ways to get the benefits of learning from LGBT history without opening them up to being conflated with pedophiles, though. How can we accomplish both those goals if we refuse to admit the sociological similarities?",
"\"Bad faith (Latin: mala fides) is a sustained form of deception which consists of entertaining or pretending to entertain one set of feelings while acting as if influenced by another.[1]\"\n\ne.g, I think your point is so silly, I think you're making it in bad faith.\n\nI was the one who raised that gay people were called pedophiles??? I have no idea what horse you're on but it's ridiculous. \n\nThe comparisons bother me as much as people calling the earth flat. I'll engage with a flat earther to tell them they're stupid, and the world moves on without them.\n\nEdit: it is not engaging with LGBT history that causes gay people to be conflated with pedofiles. That's incorrect. See this conversation in which is latter happened well before you raised LGBT history.\n\nYou might want to delete this comment before you defend pedophilia https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/r76ouw/how_much_of_a_woman_is_too_much_for_you/hmxzxfi/",
"That is literally a good thing. Do you think having sex with children is at risk of being normalized if pedophiles are treated any better?",
"I have good news and bad news",
"There's no comparison? Really? The core tenet behind homosexuality (the entire LGTBQ spectrum really) is that you *can't* choose who you're attracted to. \n\nNow think through this a bit more. Who would *choose* to be attracted to children? Do you really think there's people out there purposefully getting turned on by children *by choice*? This doesn't even make any sense at all logically.\n\nI think this is where the overlap begins and ends. And in fact this shouldn't be a core tenet of LGBTQ but should be considered a core tenet of human sexuality. People draw the comparison to gay people because gays campaigned for equal rights on the fact that they don't choose to be attracted to the same sex. So logically it flows that you cannot control who you're attracted to. You can control if you do something about it and that's the key difference.",
"Aah, in that case I think you're making this point in bad faith--because you want to maximize harm to pedophiles rather than prioritizing help to prevent them from offending. Not out of a place of concern for the LGBT community.\n\n...I don't actually think that, I just wanted you to go through a quick moment of seeing how pointless it would be to reason with somebody who thinks you're making a point in bad faith. At that point there's no point in talking, since what can I say to change that perception?\n\nAnyway, it was nice talking with you. I'm happy to agree to disagree on this; I figure the most essential thing is wanting to help people. How exactly we go about it is negotiable, but the core common ground is wanting to do good for everybody.\n\nAlso, on that link: Emphasis on *women*. :) Important word. I may not like 'em thicc, but I like 'em to have a college degree. I've taught kids and teens...Love 'em to death, but it takes exceptional emotional immaturity to be able to have any kind of romantic attachment to a teenager.",
"I think the idea here is not that anyone is trying to force you to have a pedophile around your children. The idea rather is that we don't go limiting people based on what they *might* do in the future. Statistically speaking you're better off isolating your child from you're entire extended family than trying to identify a predator at a park. You're weirdly hung up on this.",
"CARROTS… \n\nTANGERINES… \n\nBEAUTIFULLY ORANGE… \n\nFUCK!",
"Who’s gonna tell ‘em no?",
"Well, if I'm pissing off pedos I feel like I'm doing something right.\n\nAlso...downvoted for explaining to someone who couldn't take the leap to figure out what MAGA had to do with his post? Good. Downvote more, fuckwits.",
"For the record, I am 100% in favour of pedophiles seeking (and being helped to seek) long term psychological/psychiatric support. I think it should be federally funded, and protected to the fullest extent of client confidentiality agreements except where there is imminent threat. Socially, I'm for a destigmitisation of pedophiles seeking that support.\n\nI am against destigmitisation of the condition itself to the extent it's seen as a legitimate sexuality. \n\nWe are all capable of murder but we don't all murder. Some people are psychopathic/sociopathic (can't remember which is right term) and have urges to harm others (or don't experience the inhibitions not too), but they seek medical support in order to not do so. \n\nThat is a much better analogy. Instead, folks want to discuss similarities to gay people in which the context does not apply. One is for pedophiles to receive medical treatment akin to other mental conditions in which an individual has urges to do harm, and the other is a movement that tries to right social injustice in which 2 consenting adults are mistreated by law and society.\n\nYou bring up LGBT history in a conversation about pedophiles? Why? You haven't given a full reason about the motivation to discuss a resemblance between the two disparate things. You said it's to not waste the blood and sacrifice of gay people in the past, but you have never actually said why LGBT history is relevant. That's why I thought it was in bad faith. Because you rabbled out pedophile talking points about LGBT community and never substantiated them. If you're sincere, I'm sorry.\n\nI just want to repeat, pedophiles should seek long term medical support, stay away from children and never harm a child. If they do that, then they deserve to be treated better than a rapist. I think we agree there.\n\nWe just disagree about the relevance of LGBT history and gay people today.",
"That is false. Not being in control of your sexuality is not a tenet of the LGBT community.\n\nIt's more like, \"two people of any gender **who are capable of consent** should be allowed to live out their sexual and/or romantic relationships without discrimination or prejudice.\"\n\nNote the \"capable of consent part\". Kids are not capable of consent to sex with an adult. Therefore, pedophilia is completely, without exception, excluded from the LGBT community - both in practice and ideology.\n\n4chan has tried to troll the LGBT community by creating fake campaigns by pedofiles that coopt and twist the LGBT campaigns, by using the rhetoric you are.\n\nPeople who experience compulsions to harm other humans should seek professional support.",
"They're associated with LGBTQ group because people from that group came up with the whole MAP and NOMAP thing.",
"I'd question that statistic. I know family members make up the majority of molestation perpetrators, but you're comparing the ratio of offending pedophiles to non offending pedophiles, to the ratio of offending family members to non offending family members. And I'd doubt the latter is higher. \n\nYou're just as hung up by replying. I just saw someone saying we shouldn't keep kids away from pedophiles and thought \"what the fuck?\".",
"I agree, official usernames should always be held by the true rights holder.",
"My my, feeling brave today are we",
"Gimme the bad news first",
"Imagine an elderly person just got set up with a new phone or tablet on the world wide Web, they've heard of twitter, so they make an account, vegetable facts, ooh that sound interesting, clicks follow...",
"gosh, I laughed out just now. what a funny and well-edited video!",
"This man speaks truths and gets down voted. Why is reddit like this? I mean I genuinely hate pedophiles but I see where you're coming from on most of your points. These people need help and while Chemical castration seems extreme its worth it if it prevents a child from being harmed.",
"> That is false. Not being in control of your sexuality is not a tenet of the LGBT community.\n\nYou either didn't read what I wrote or twisted it on purpose. I'm not sure which. \n\nI never said not being in control of your sexuality, I said attraction. Gay people have been saying since forever that they don't choose to be attracted to their own sex. That's indisputable fact. \n\n> It's more like, \"two people of any gender **who are capable of consent** should be allowed to live out their sexual and/or romantic relationships without discrimination or prejudice.\"\n\n> Note the \"capable of consent part\". Kids are not capable of consent to sex with an adult. Therefore, pedophilia is completely, without exception, excluded from the LGBT community - both in practice and ideology.\n\nNice strawman. \n\n> 4chan has tried to troll the LGBT community by creating fake campaigns by pedofiles that coopt and twist the LGBT campaigns, by using the rhetoric you are.\n\nDon't care, wasn't commenting about 4chan. I simply commented that people (seemingly you?) are leaping straight over attraction and how what goes on in your mind doesn't automatically equate to repugnant behavior. \n\n> People who experience compulsions to harm other humans should seek professional support.\n\nWell that's just an odd statement. Are you lumping BDSM in with pedophiles?",
"You'd question the statistic based on what evidence?\n\nAnd besides, I was making the point that you can't assure the safety of your children, so why are you trying to get people that haven't committed any crimes on some sort of list?\n\nI'm not hung up, you're the one all over the thread. You didn't get the same meaning from what they said as others but the part that makes you hung up on this is that you won't let it go that you might have made a mistake. Or that your viewpoint actually might cause more harm than good.",
"As far as i remember, a few Taliban social accounts were requested to keep up since they were inadvertently outing their own members and details.",
"Again, I'm not going to dig through all the dirt to find the video",
"You sound like someone very insecure. Are you projecting?",
"Wishing death on *pedophiles",
"Yes.",
"Sexuality was used synonymously with attraction.\n\nGoogle what a strawman is. You made a claim of what the central tenet of gay rights is, and I made another. The LGBT community will never condone or accept pedophilia. Central tenets of the community revolve around consent and children cannot consent to sex with adults. While gender is irrelevant to the morality of sex, age is very relevant because children cannot consent.\n\nSure we can leave 4chan out if it. It's worth noting because it's possibly influenced the argument your making now, but that's fine.\n\nObviously, the definition of harm includes space for consent.",
"I'm questioning the statistic based on a lack of evidence.\n\nI haven't said there should be a list? Just that if I knew someone was a pedophile I'd keep my children away from them. I think any respectful, non-offending pedophile would think that's a good idea, or at least understand the parents choice.",
" defending pedophiles three comments deep on a meme about a joke Twitter account.. only on Reddit",
"Those fruits were based. RIP.",
"> But I can simultaneously recognize these things and feel sorry that life dealt them a shit hand while hating what they do\n\nWhat if they do... nothing? Like, while being attracted to kids, never act on it? Sorta like someone who's attracted to other people, but never manages a relationship doesn't automatically decide to rape people instead. Obviously some do, but many don't as well.\n\nI assume you don't actually believe everyone who's attracted to children are rapists, or will end up raping, right? Because all evidence with other sexualities suggest *very* different, not to mention I'd assume most pedophiles aren't hard limited to that, sort of like how most people have multiple things that get them off, with maybe one or two favorites. Blindly assuming a sexual type/preference automatically comes with the package of raping/assaulting is akin to the sort of beliefs about gay people before homosexuality was accepted.",
"> The whole point is that they suppress it successfully.\n\nConsidering how many actual child abuse cases pop up a year and such, *many* people suppress it successfully, at least for a time. I think we're going to have a point where science/psychology realizes that pedophilia is a *lot* more common than we think it is.\n\nThink about this: Most women I know had at least *one* creepy uncle, cousin, friend when they were kids bother them. Like, I'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't have shitty experiences like that when they were kids. That's kinda nuts. Now consider that not one of those women is aware of that person ever getting caught, arrested, etc. \n\nIt's probably a *lot* more common than anyone would want to realize or admit sadly, with the majority hiding it successfully.",
"It makes me happy to see this is slowly spreading further.\n\nThere's nothing worse for preventing child abuse than stigmatisation of people who are attracted to minors but don't offend. It can make it harder for them to seek treatment, and since they're so vilified, can lead to them just saying fuck it and offending.\n\nI was sexually abused by an older male when I was a kid (though he wasn't an adult) and I think that offending paedophiles are horrible people. But if it's a valid mental illness, we should be more sympathetic to getting them help before they get to the stage of harming others.",
"That’s kind of a dumb question",
"I watched the first one and it sounds like a very reasonable approach. Nothing like the youtuber that /u/Quentin0352 suggested which just sounds like pure ragebait and fearmonguering.",
"\"lmao\"",
"The first two are fairly reasonable, but clickbait youtubers aren't going to respond to those. Check out Shoe's response videos to watch the pedos self report. Not only are theh disgusting, they are also cringe.",
"Hahah shit that was one of my all time favorite tweets. RIP Veggietales Facts",
"Just watched the one with the response to the Kino guy and while he's obviously a deranged individual (and probably dangerous too), the response is the typical youtube bait.\n\nThey'll grab an irrelevant video/tweet/article (in this case, a video with less that 200 views, i.e. irrelevant) and make it seem that there's a whole movement behind them and the movement it's a threat so society.\n\nIt's the same tactic that has been used against feminism, transgenders,... (also against conservative views but the alt-right are the true masters of this online ragebait).\n\nI just can't stand youtubers any more.",
"Veggietales we’re never trained or sponsored by the CIA",
"\"GAY\" pedophile. The G in LGBTQ is Gay.\n\nDon't try and make the LGBTQ community to be this perfect/can do no wrong thing. They have a massive issue about underaged boys that they are not addressing.",
"No, there are those in the alphabet community pushing for normalization and de-stigmatization of pedos.\n\nhttps://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/583153-professor-who-researched-minor-attracted-persons-steps-down",
"https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/583153-professor-who-researched-minor-attracted-persons-steps-down\n\nHave a read.",
"I mean, what kind of treatment would you trust to do anything",
"So wait they have a MAP, which means that the person is an offending individual, and a NOMAP, which indicates the person isn’t offending? So they agree: offending minors is bad?\n\nThat’s like r/selfawarewolves right there.",
"That you know of.",
"They are the majority of MAPs by far and if you research, many of those \"reasonable\" ones you like either have a record for already offending or just wait a couple of years and you find they are a CNN producer type who kept it hidden.",
"> Literally in the previous comment you worded it as if you are a \"nomap\".\n\nNo, I never did. I never said I, I always talked in third person. You INFERRING that doesn't mean that I said it or implied it, that's on you. You're too fired up about the subject to have a reasonable discussion about it.",
"And I am making a distinction between racist who don't do anything to harm others and racist who do act to harm others. I am guessing that this is beyond your comprehension. It is amazing to see how many people on reddit who are defending pedophiles.",
"Sure thing, pedo.\n\n\nEven if you're not one, defenders are just as bad as they are trying to normalize and bring sympathy to these monsters. These monsters, who very likely offend by other means than assult, such as gonna after porn of it, which creates more child abuse to create said porn.",
"Please don't compare pedophilia to homosexuality.",
"> Why are you so focused on lynching pedophiles?\n\nBecause they shouldn't be around, they can't be trusted.",
"Why would you assume the day to day experiences of a pedophile match those of a closeted gay person? You're still pulling this comparison out of thin air.",
"Okay, so keep doing what we're doing and ignore the problem until they offend, got it. Sorry, kids that get abused, you're just an acceptable casualty to /u/AWildTyphlosion 's thirst for vengeance. You'd think someone that's gone through what you have would want fewer people to suffer, yeah?",
"Less pedophiles left alive the fewer kids will get raped, it's pretty basic math. Pedophiles will very likely reoffend and those who want actual help should do so without announcing it to the world that they're sexually attracted to minors.",
"Hit me with a fucking brick",
"Sadly you are wrong that the community would never accept pedophilia. Early on it was very closely tied with it and they finally diverged and kicked that part out because it was being used against them very successfully. Otherwise his argument was correct in that both also say they have zero choice over their preferences. \n\n\nNow, none of that means they are comparable when it comes to having rights and they do try to kick out any who support pedophilia now which is very good and what helped change many minds about the community. \n\n\nBut it is true the pedophiles are using the same arguments as the LGBT community and if you look through all the comments, there are plenty of people trying to defend the pedophiles which is concerning when you think about it. Since they are watching the videos of them using the logic and arguments of the LGBT community about it just being them and not a choice. I am surprised how many are actually saying it is a reasonable argument and you may want to be upset at them not us.",
"Yeah, the problem is you don't know they're pedophiles UNTIL THEY OFFEND. You are ignoring the problem until a kid is abused. If you're executing people and treating them like demons, how many people who are scared of offending and want help are going to get help before they offend? Basically none, so you're just repeating my point. Normalizing getting help and treated and stigmatizing not getting help/treated is a much better solution.",
"> how many people who are scared of offending and want help are going to get help before they offend\n\nI'm assuming the looming threat of death would push them to seek help, as it's a punishment for actually offending, not for them being wired that way. Like today, pedophiles who want help, will be seeking it. Those who have accepted their condition or are in the closet, will likely offend in some way and would deserve it to prevent it from happening again.\n\n> Normalizing getting help\n\nPeople going around with MAPs and NOMAPs aren't normalizing getting help, they're normalizing \"it's okay to be sexually attracted to children\".\n\n\nIf someone murders someone else, you don't just give them 5 years in jail and let them do it again. You take their life either with a life sentence or a death penalty. I feel like offending pedophiles need to be the same way.",
"You’re comparing apples to oranges. A KKK member makes the choice to associate with that group.\n\nGrown adults being attracted to children is a mental health issue not a choice. As long as they do not act on these urges they are innocent. I am describing pitiable people, not monsters. And it is easier to get these people the help they need if we don’t demonise them.\n\nClaim we don’t comprehend all you want, but the fact we get upvoted and you get downvoted shows that our perspective is perfectly understandable. No one wants kids to be abused. We all just want troubled people to get the help they need.",
"Pics or it didn't happen",
"What's the difference?",
"We can’t kill hitler",
"How exactly did you determine they're the majority of MAPs? Did you conduct a survey?",
"This says a lot more about yourself",
"How??",
"> So you're stupid\n\nLove how you deleted this before changing it to that.\n\nBut hey, at least I'm not the one defending pedophiles.",
"They say\n\n>[...]Community that was born with a horrible affliction.\n\n\nYou reply\n\n> But why do they have to make themselves known and make an initialism and act like a community?\n\nYou make yourself sound like a TV villain.",
"As opposed to the people that wanna fuck kids?",
"I have much more confidence in the strength of their character than in that of someone who dismisses them as sub-human for something they did not choose.\n\nEdit: (A reminder that we're discussing people who are seeking help, not those who celebrate a mental illness.)",
"I think I’m gonna cry…",
"However, when someone identifies themselves as such and puts a label on it, it is to try and destigmatize it. This is something that should absolutely be stigmatized. It's something they need to seek help and possibly medicate over. There should be no pride in having this as an \"orientation\".",
"The thing is acknowledging it exists and providing help is MUCH different than someone \"identifying\" as such and making it a part of their personality.",
"Even common_squirrel seems have finally given up in May 2021 after 13 years of solid tweets. RIP https://twitter.com/common_squirrel",
"I still remember when 4chan played geoguesser with a video of a taliban training encampment and managed to get the US air force to bomb the fuck out of them.\n\nFreely sharing information is not good for a fighting force whose only saving grace is obscurity.\n\nNever interrupt your enemy in the middle of a tactical mistake.",
"Pedophiles aren’t people deserving of human rights, all pedophiles should die so no it’s not understandable",
"The account was banned for impersonation though.",
"The problem here is that you won't accept that attraction can be evaluated independently. So you have no choice but to twist my words, I get it now.\n\nIf you'd like to be able to have a productive discussion with people on this topic you'll have to understand that words have meanings and precision is important.",
"Every human deserves human rights. That's why they are called human right. You simply don't believe in human rights then. Also people should only be punished for their actions.",
"You know how people lose their rights after they commit terrible crimes and go to jail, even sometimes killed? What’s the difference? Every child loving pedophile should be dead.",
"Going to piggyback on this, here's a Salon article titled \"I’m a pedophile, but not a monster\": https://archive.ph/EdgYQ\n\nAnd this back back in **2015**. So this has been going on for longer than it feels.",
"I just feel like what we're doing now is obviously not working as well as it could lol.",
"And the pedos are already trying to downvote you. Because they know you're right.\nSalon article from **2015** titled \"I’m a pedophile, but not a monster\": https://archive.ph/EdgYQ",
"I mean nihlist arby's is still around so I don't think that's it",
"None of that supports the other user's claims though?",
"Huh, did you not read the article?\n\nThe suspended professor is a prominent member of the trans community. The paper and their stance is the acceptance of MAPs, minor attracted persons. \n\nThere was a salon article mentioned in the thread from 2015, so yeah they are trying to normalize it.",
"> If wanting to rape kids is a preference, then so is wanting to remove pedophiles from society.\n\nYou really should actually read posts instead of posting nearly incomprehensible rants that have nothing to do with the post you're responding to.\n\nNo one's saying sexuality is a choice. Preferring men, women, old, young, whatever, that's sexuality. So yes, having a biological preference for younger children would be considered a sexuality. \n\nNo one is saying it's a choice, no idea where you're inventing that. The point is, no one *can* choose their sexuality. No one can control what they're attracted to. That being said, like I can keep myself from raping a women because I haven't been laid in a bit, someone can be attracted to children, but *choose* not to act on those urges. \n\nObviously not everyone manages that, and learning about the issue, and providing support to *keep children from being raped* seems like a pretty good deal, considering ignoring the problem until it's already happened isn't exactly working out great for us lol.",
"It was the russians who bombed them, not the US.",
"There's two key differences there. First, nihilist Arby's States very clearly that they have nothing to do with Arby's. I'm not sure if the VeggieTales account did, but from the screenshots I've seen it doesn't seem to have.\n\nThe other key difference is that we're talking about Arby's. They've shown repeatedly that they have a sense of humor, while VeggieTales promotes religion to children. Not exactly a funny haha kind of company.\n\nMy original comment was intended not to defend or promote either side, I just wanted to explain the likely intention behind Twitter's action. It's kind of funny that my comment originally went up to +6, and now sits at -7, all because some of the replies are attempting to characterize me as supporting Twitter's decision, which I'm not",
"Normalize them getting help, not actually engaging in pedophilic behaviour. Please show me where in the article it says they want to normalise fucking children.",
"Much of the magic of the place is gone.",
"Don't try to read between the lines here. I just get curious when people say that society or the world is going to hell and I wonder at what point did they think it was better.",
"> battling a real mental illness\n\nits not a mental illness(that doesn't make it ok to act on though) its just how nature works, everything is on a spectrum, increases odds of life surviving in different unanticipated situations.\n\nits not an illness just like the people who are attracted to fat people or old people arent suffering from an illness.",
"Is there more about this story somewhere? Searching for this came up with nothing and probably got me on some more govt lists.",
"https://imgur.com/gallery/5P1N1GI\n\nOne of the few links I could find not on reddit itself. Linking to other subreddits rarely works.\n\nIt wasn't the us air force or the taliban. I was misremembering.\n\nIt was Syria and a training camp of some kind and it was the Russian air force who leveled it lmao",
"Thanks for finding it!",
"Their gayness has nothing to do with the pedophile part. What massive issues? You are making things up.",
"It's amazing what people can do with twitter and pictures and 4chan these days.\n\nWithin a week of MH17 going down 4chan already had pictures of the AA platform geo-tagged in the location the aircraft was shot down from. Even before it was officially confirmed that the aircraft was shot down!\n\nthey also had video of the AA platform on a truck being transported back through the 'separatist' controlled areas of Ukraine and right over the border back into Russia.",
"No need to apologize, misunderstandings happen often when I write. Not the best at getting what's in my head on to the page.",
"One of the two undeniably exists, and it's not the conspiracy one.",
"How have I twisted your words? Restate your original words if I have changed them.\n\nProductive discussions often involve clarifications. Words often have multiple meanings, and sometimes can be used interchangeably. Very shocking I know. And if someone sees a distinction between the two words, then it's accepted that within the domain of that conversation, the words are not interchangeable. And then the conversation continues using the original word.",
"No? Does the straight community have an underaged child issue since lots of straight pedophiles exist? Quit being a bigot",
"I suppose that's true. Corporations usually make no secret of their evil mone grabbing.",
"I already clarified it and you continued to substitute in your meaning. You're conflating attraction and acting on that attraction, and that's wrong. One of the arguments for gay people is that they can't control the fact that they're attracted to the same sex. To put it more crudely, a gay guy can't control popping a boner looking at another handsome dude. So why do you think pedophiles could control that? It's an automatic reaction.",
"I'm just saying not choosing to be gay isn't a **central tenet** of the LGBT community's philosophy. And you're reading that I think pedophiles have chosen to have that condition or that they must act in their compulsions? I'm not saying that.\n\nGay people and pedophiles both have legs and wear shoes, but to use that comparison in an argument to be allowed to rape children, or for destigmitisation, or for extra medical funding is ridiculous.\n\nA better analogy is people who's brains don't feel empathy and they are compelled to murder. It isn't there choice, so we should support them receiving long term psychiatric support in order to not offend.",
"It *is* a core tenet of the LGBTQ community. Otherwise why would they have an issue with conversion therapy?\n\nAnd where the fuck did you get the idea I think it's ok for them to rape kids? I think all mental illnesses need to be destigmatized so they can be treated.\n\nhttps://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/sexual-orientation/sexual-orientation/what-causes-sexual-orientation",
"Because it's doesn't work and causes harm?\n\nBeing gay isn't a choice. The LGBT community fights against conversion therapy because of that. But it's not some tenet of the community that things you don't choose should be destimatized.\n\nBeing gay should be destimatized because the gender of people has nothing to do with the morality of sex.\n\nPedophilia should be destimatized because the stigma may stop them from seeking professional support and cause more child molestation.\n\nSee how they're different?\n\nEdit: I should clarify, pedophilia in general should not be destimatized. But non offending pedophiles seeking medical help should be destigmatised.",
"Well, I gave you a link proving otherwise. So I guess we're done here if you're not going to admit your error.",
"I literally said being gay is not a choice. I've never said otherwise.",
"You said there's no point in comparing them because they can't be compared. They're not the same. They *are* the same, it's just that one is ok to act on and the other is not. Why do you insist on ignoring this basic fact.?\n\nYou do realize human sexuality evolved before laws and modern morals yes? People are attracted to what they are attracted to. They don't first consult the law.\n\nIt's an especially weird line here you're trying to draw because what's statutory rape of a minor in one jurisdiction is not in many many others. That alone should make it obvious then that if gay people don't choose their sexuality neither do pedophiles. We agree they need help so how about we stop making it harder by making it out like it's a moral failing?",
"every time i see that cucumber and tomato i want to put a toque on its head and add another tomato so it looks like a penis with a condom",
"I said there's no legitimate comparison. \n\nObviously neither a pedophile or gay person have chosen who they are attracted to. I have never denied that. But to say that similarity means we should treat pedophiles like gay people is not reasonable, because of the stark differences between them (ability to consent).\n\nLaw does not define morality. I have never claimed that, and will not claim that. \n\nActing on pedophilia is an utter moral failing, being a pedophile is not (since it's not their choice, as I have said). \n\nIt's more akin to being a psychopath with compulsions to murder, not to a gay person.",
"They are gay because they are attracted to males. Young boys are males.\n\nThe massive issue is the overwhelming denial that the gay community sexualizes young gay boys and calls it \"beautiful\".",
"Yes we do have a problem but we acknowledge it and shun it. The gay community on the other hand let's an 11 year old boy in drag dance on a gay bar for tips (like a stripper) and it was lauded as \"totally normal and none sexual\". If that were a girl in a regular bar the outrage would have been extreme.",
"Yes and there are straight pedophiles too. There are some that wear hats and some that don't wear hats.\n\nHaha, that's a dumb take. If you're just going to make shit up about gay people I think we're done here.",
"I feel like I am in a bizarro world looking at the downvote counts. Say what you will about the points, but you are trying to shut down a conversation validating pedophile sexuality in a thread about a fucking veggietales satire account; that is pretty much what I'd expect out of most sane people. \n\nWell now that the cat is out of the bag, let me interject a point this \"intersectional pedophilia\" take is missing. LGBT rights are not some sort of completed project, one that can support a whole host of sexual deviancy stigmatized across the spectrum of our culture. There are POC trans women being murdered at rates which suggest targeting, many places have created or started bathroom bills, and non-binary folks are almost completely unrecognized (not to mention most gender-spectrum identities). The \"blood of gay men\" is laughable too, considering some of the first gay rights demonstrations were mostly born by trans women, later co-opted by the entire gay community in solidarity. Not to say gay men haven't born the abuse and stigma of homophobia but to use that phrase to characterise the entire LGBT movement belies a superficial understanding of it. The whole conceit that we must create space for a group of people who have sought and abused places of power, simply for medical treatment is insane enough. Medical treatment can be advocated and effected through the channels of science, instead of contriving a cultural change that places pedophiles with discriminated groups with no moral burdens on society.",
"I agree completely, and that is well said. \n\nMy charitable interpretation of the blood of gay men comment was that it was about the aids crisis - how they bore a giant weight of stigma and we should learn from that when we consider destigmitisation of pedophilia. That is absolutely unhinged makes me retch a little. I just didn't want to engage with that line of thinking.\n\nAlso regarding the downvotes, there's an odd stream of pro-pedophilia on Reddit. I think one of the founders was a mod of the jailbait subreddit.",
"Ah yes,cus wishing death on pedos is wrong",
"It's a terrible day for rain...",
"and wasnt it not Taliban, instead some anti-assad rebels",
"Parody",
"Something like that.\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/5P1N1GI.jpeg\nhttps://i.imgur.com/N7DwWP1.jpeg",
"1st and foremost I am a supporter of gay rights. They have as much a right to a happy existence as anyone else. But when there is a cancerous element in a group it should not be denied to save the embarrassment of said group. \n\nOf course there are strait pedophiles, not sure why that even needs to be said. The problem is that the gay community denies that there are a unsettling amount of gay pedophiles. Of every 3 minors that are sexually abused by a male, 1 of those is a boy. That means 1/3 of the sexually assults on minors are by gay men. That is compounded by the fact gay men are only 3.5% of the male population.\n\nAnd my undeniable proof the gay community openly accepts the sexualizing of minors is the video of that desmond kid. He was a 11 year old boy, in skimpy drag, on a bar top, doing a stripper dance, in a gay club. Nevermind the fact a 11 year old does not belong in a night club that serves alcohol. If the situation was flipped and that was a girl, the outrage would be overwhelming. Instead the gay community flooded with support and denial that the boy was doing anything sexual.",
"Again, that cancer is not in the gay community which at large is firmly against that sort of thing. You take one example of a small subgroup of a community doing something, and ascribe the 'cancer' to the whole community. Do you fault straight culture for straight pedophiles? Beauty pageants, happening all across America and televised across the world, sexualise young girls, yet you are not here up in arms about that.\n\nYour focus is disproportionately on gay pedophiles and that suggests a bias to me.",
"That argument doesn't hold the same for trademarks as it does for copyrights. Parodies are only protected from trademark dilution, not trademark infringement. i.e.: You can't use the actual VeggieTales name, art, and logo as your logo.\n\nIt would be like publishing a comic called Superman and using the Superman logo on the cover: Even if the content is parody, you can be sued into oblivion for creating customer confusion.",
"Taliban ✅\n\nPedophiles ✅\n\nLiteral Neo Nazis ✅\n\nVeggies saying Naughty Words ❌"
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"Not going to sugar coat it, yes there is ignorance but there isn't hatred.",
"This ia how I felt in japan. I went for 10 days and was walking around and it felt so weird. It wasnt until day 4 or 5 that I realized the feeling safety. Ive literally never felt safe in my entire life before and I fucking cried my eyes out at my hotel when I got back",
"This is the magic of travel.\n\nIt opens your eyes to the rest of the world and the new philosophies that come with that.",
"Is there some hate for foreigners? Yes. Is there hate for black people? Apparently, no.\n\nDid you even watch the video?",
"Over 20 years in Japan, know one person in this video, and would say this NPR story is pretty accurate and can be summed as Japan is 'racism lite'. With Japan's economic future in doubt, Japanese have become more unsettled in the last 10 years. They don't seem to have made enough active policy changes to be in better control of their future. They would prefer not to have so many non-Japanese come to live, but with the birth rate and low unemployment rate have little choice. This influx of foreigners has been unsettling. I think there is still a pecking order as to whom Japan prefers to be here, but the ramifications from that pecking order is not as harsh as the USA. Overall the changes I have seen in my time here is comparative to watching a glacier move. Inside Japan a glacial move is huge, but looking from the outside in, it's very tiny.\n\nThe biggest racism in Japan that all foreigners except the top 1% experience is that most of the housing market is closed off. Japanese don't want to rent to you, because they think you will be a noisy neighbor, have parties, or not follow the rules. The language barrier doesn't make it easier either.\n\nAnother area of racism is in the workplace. If you travel to the subreddit teachinginjapan, you can find a lot of wtf stories that leave you scratching your head.\n\nThose coming from developing countries work in tougher conditions and seem to be the most susceptible when it comes mistreatment. I don't have a lot of info on this. I'm not in this circle and when it comes to information, Japan is not that open.\n\nAll in all, living in Japan is not comparable to living in the USA. For the problems Japan has, it is so much better than the US.",
"I find it interesting how different people deal with each other in Japan without having the legacy of slavery and segregation.\n\nIt gets lost on people that Ferguson or Derek Chauvin would not happen in Japan.\n\nIt’s too bad any kind of positive message between Blacks and Asians isn’t worth hearing, considering how bad it is in the US.\n\nPeople love to be outraged here.",
"Unfortunately Japan has had a history of slave labor and were very cruel during WWII. Those issues continues to create problems for them today. This is from Wikipedia:\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>According to the Korean historians, approximately 670,000 Koreans, were conscripted into labor from 1944 to 1945 by the National Mobilization Law.\\[41\\] About 670,000 of them were taken to Japan, where about 60,000 died between 1939 and 1945 due mostly to exhaustion or poor working conditions.\n\nKoreans were brought from Korea and a large population remain today. But your right, Ferguson or Derek Chauvin would not happen in Japan today. \n\nTo add, Japan had an Indigenous population that was here before the Japanese. Their society was never really valued. I believe the last of those who spoke fluent Ainu are gone. There are still people of mostly mixed ancestry here, who hold onto the culture similarly to what Native Americans do. If you were to ask a Japanese to talk about the Ainu, maybe they can give you three or four facts. But basically everywhere, winners write history and make the rules. I imagine if you go to just about any part of the world today, you will find similar stories, but they are not very prominent. \n\nAll in all when a system is set up win: lose, in the end everyone loses. I'm just glad Black Americans are pushing back. I hope they continue to expand their sphere of influence and light continues to get shined on all the abuses going on. It's a really screwed up system. \n\nDespite this history, Japan is a wonderful place to be. The place is still very much chill.",
"Yes, thank you for the history lesson. I understand Japan does not have friends in Asia. \n\nBut we are off topic from the video and my comments.\n\nAnd the Empire of Japan ended with two nuclear bombs.",
"Yep, life is not that simple as peaches and cream."
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Living While Black, In Japan | All Things Considered | NPR
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"looks nice",
"Your welcome",
"Your welcome",
"\"The cheesiest\" and then there's only like 2 table spoons of cheese sprinkled over the top. Come on"
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The Cheesiest Potato Gratin | Perfect For Your Cravings
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"That’s amazing. It’s wild to think that these forms of media will allow our voice and likeness to exist far beyond our own short time. \n\nI haven’t finished the video yet, but what an opportunity!",
"Omg.. so strange. Listening to first hand experience of history",
"My furst though was, holy crap, in that, someone like her would have one heck of a story to tell. Yes, I am not cool with the whole slave owning thing, however, more videos like this get uncovered of people that lived through that time get uncovered, and shared, is a must. It is part of history, and be made available so we all not forget what happened.",
"Crazy accent.\n\nDoes she ever talk about her time actually owning slaves though?",
"No.",
"Clickbait title. She references the trail of tears and doesn't mention slavery.",
"/r/misleadingtitles",
"I also saw Redman once. Wasnt in the woods though, it was in Philly. Shes got pretty good taste in rap music for being a self described old cracker.",
"What’s with the music?",
"There is zero discussion of slavery in her interview. OP just farming that karma",
"To my English ears, her Georgian accent sounds closer to an English accent (although still different, of course) than a modern one does.",
"Oh yeah, full agreement"
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"I have a boner.",
"That chick jerks.",
"I keep telling my wife I’m busy self pollinating but she says she needs the bathroom",
"Katie, it was pollinated enough half an hour ago..",
"ziiiiip."
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"I'm a simple man... I see haka, I upvote",
"Reminds me of Roots by Sepultura",
"Somehow the addition of metal makes a haka less metal",
"manly version of The Rockettes",
"The HAKettes.",
"Agreed. The Haka is so much more badass than the music added to this.",
"I'm a simple woman... I see thigh meat, I upvote",
"If you think this is cool you should check out the band [Alien Weaponry](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kwIkF6LFDc)",
"Love them!",
"I’m a simple Galapagos turtle I see grass I upvote",
"Surprisingly less cringey with the metal added.",
"Hakas have always annoyed me. Cringey as hell"
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"Super cool, I stayed in the area a few years ago. Oryx in the area are some of my favorite animals",
"download Ublock Orgin or Adblock Plus",
"I think its pretty cool to click through the night footage and see how the water just seeps right out :D"
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"[This](https://www.think.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/motorcycling-take-longer-to-look.png) UK ad did the rounds a few years ago. Riding a motorbike really opens your eyes to the inattention of car drivers and has made me a much better driver as a result.",
"I watched Bill Nye the Science Guy as a kid, and the more I watched the more sure I was that this was mirroring the style. Then in the end, it was spelled out for me",
"In cities, I think that it is a mistake to have too many signs near intersections. At intersections, cars, bikes, and pedestrians are coming from multiple directions and visual clutter can make it hard to see everything.\n\nHonking your horn all the time is rude. It is selfish safety. It is essentially saying \"I don't want him to hit me, but I don't care if he hits pedestrians.\"",
"I cannot get past how much that looks like Shrek wearing full plate armor.",
"Here's a cool thing you can do with Saccadic Suppression.\n\nGo look in to your own eyes in a mirror, then look from your left eye to your right eye. What happens?\n\nDo it on your phone, what happens?\n\nWatch someone else do it, what happens?",
"F9 is probably the best YouTube channel I've ever seen.\n\nMind boggling mix of entertainment and educational material- I doubt I'll see a better channel in my lifetime.",
"Very clean made video",
"Here in Australia it is impossible to turn the front light off on your motorbike and would be illegal if you did.\n\nIs that not the case in the UK? Because it seems like a pretty good road law looking at that.",
"The deep voiced guy interjecting solidified it for me.",
"Yeah and same here in Ireland and in all of Europe I think. Twin lamp headlights look stupid as a result but hey, safety beats coolness, right? \n\nThat guys headlight in the ad is actually on.",
"Can most people do that?\n\nI can choose which eye to look through (but I have left eye dominance normally) but I didn't think that was common.",
"It depends on the age of the bike. Older bikes you can turn off all the lights, newer ones can force you to turn off the ignition / remove the key before a side light will turn off",
"Actually looks like twin headlights as well",
"38 years on motorbikes and other drivers can be so fucking blind at times it's untrue",
">That guys headlight in the ad is actually on.\n\nOh damn I didn't even realise.",
"Just shows how it works doesn't it? ;)",
"I've always been curious about riding a motorcycle but have been pretty fearful. This video confirmed many of my fears, haha. I am a cyclist that rides on the road and I basically assume all cars cannot see me so I compensate for that but that's a lot easier with my slower speed. Going at high speeds on a bike though... scary.",
"Everybody with 2 eyes can do it. Due to saccadic suppression, you won’t see your eyes move, but you can feel them move. Your phone has a slight delay, so you can see them move on your phone.\n\nThis is unrelated to eye dominance :)",
"Any person I asked personally can't unless it's to look at their nose or something.\n\nI once had an eye test through a binocular device. One aperature had a horizontal line visible and the other had a series of vertical dots. The doctor asked me to identify how many dots were above and below the line. I only saw the line until I 'changed eyes'.\n\nMy wife thinks this is bizarre and cannot understand it as she sees in (presumably) normal binocular vision all the time.",
"Joking... with high speed you can be gone and out of their way before they even get chance to start to move :D",
"Nah, it's not. Buying a modern bike that has the headlight come on with the ignition and modifying it so that you can turn it off is illegal, but if you have an older bike, there's no legal requirement to have the headlight turned on, it's just a good idea.\n\nHaving said that, I believe NSW did a trial once that required bike riders to have their headlights on (and obviously some bike riders didn't do it). And what actually happened is that there were still just as many accidents with cars hitting bikes, but some of the car drivers actually used the phrase \"I didn't see the motorcycle, it didn't have its headlight on\".",
"That's a theme o this channel, well produced, edited and informative videos. They also parody pop culture movies or shows while doing their segments.\n\nLearned a lot about motorcycles and safety watching those Canadians.",
"I tried it but I'm not sure what i was supposed to notice\n\nEDIT: oh right you dont see your eyes move.",
"It's so reminiscent of childhood shows like Popular Mechanics For Kids in Canada, just awesome topics spelled out in simple ways. The editing and content is amazing and Ryan is always a treat. \n\nBecause of this channel I definitely gave Fortnine my business when I needed gear.",
"who is this guy the quentin tarantino of eyes",
"Ive been on drugs a couple of times (laced pot IIRC, perhaps opioids or PCP), and I could see those frames as I scanned back and forth. Pretty trippy.",
"There should be more videos on how motorcyclists should stop driving like assholes. I'm a bicyclist and hate how most people drive but motorcyclists are on another level of bad driving habits and reckless driving.",
"If you ride a motorcycle and don't act like everyone is blind or drunk you won't last long. You coukd be on fire and most people are too busy texting to notice.",
"Honestly, if you already know how to compete on roads with a bicycle you'd probably adapt fine to a motorcycle. Start small, work up.",
"I've ridden bike all my life and I hate most bicyclists. They wanna ride on the road then not follow traffic laws like stopping at stop signs. Either be on the road or be on the sidewalk. \n\nMotorcyclists in my area aren't too bad. I can see how they can get bad in other places though.",
"Haven’t seen a lot of deaths/accidents caused by bicyclists. Morons hate on bicyclists and even get aggressive with them on the road even though they are more defenseless than motorcyclists.",
"That's because bicyclists will blow through stop signs and lights when they are on the road. Either use the road or use the sidewalk. Infrastructure is not in place for bikes. Either act like a car or motorcycle, or gtfo the road.\n\nSincerely from the mountain biker that uses sidewalks and had multiple friends get hit by cars cause they playing in the street like we belong there.",
"Lol! Bikes on sidewalks are illegal in most states because they are danger to pedestrians you moron. Bikes are mostly ONLY allowed in the streets. Bicyclists, however, have not caused significant amounts of deaths to others. Motorcyclists have killed people have cause many traffic accidents. It's morons like you that don't understand that bicyclists are REQUIRED to share the streets with vehicles and it's motorcyclists that pose a BIGGER threat to the safety of drivers and cyclists. You are a complete fool if you think otherwise. Also, STOP riding your bike on the freaking sidewalk!!!!"
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"Too soon?",
"Guess so! I thought it was interesting at least.",
"in case you didn't pick up on it, 99% of the Alec Baldwin submissions in the last month are just Trumpies wanting him to go to jail for the rest of his life because of his SNL bit. In the slight chance that you didn't mean to count yourself among those... well now you know.",
"I don't spend enough time on this subreddit to notice what goes on, it got a lot less fun since political videos were banned....\n\nThat SNL vid was pretty amusing"
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Scene from 2018's Mission: Impossible – Fallout. Alec Baldwin: "I think this one's loaded, you wanna find out?
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"Every year millions of sharks are killed in Europe for their fins, that are sold to Asia (mostly China) and turned into a prestigious shark fin soup.\n\nEurope is the second biggest exporter of shark fins and regulations are rarely checked. Because off this many sharks are cut alive and disposed back into the ocean to die a cruel death.\n\nThe official citizens initiative [StopFinningEU](https://eci.ec.europa.eu/012/public/) is set to ban the export entirely and abandon the practice of finning.",
"The stupidest part of this is that there is no flavour at all that you get from the shark fin itself, nor does it have any medicinal properties or anything related. The people who buy this might as well drink water and pretend it came from a shark.",
"It's hard to get people to care about other people who live next door to them.\n\nGetting people to care about sharks?\n\nGodspeed",
"Yes but we must not forget that they don't know any better. They live in a society that isn't educated.*\n\nIt's the hypocrisy of Europe that angers me the most. We always act like as if we're better than everyone else while supporting cruelty in secret.\n\nEdit: * Animal rights activists get murdered in Asia. There's little to non basis to create awareness. If you're pro environment in China you'll have a hard and difficult life. If we don't step up, they won't change.",
"We already got 550k signatures and volunteers all over Europe. If it wasn't for Covid this petition would have been a done deal a long time ago ...",
"Well that's good news, I hope I didn't sound too discouraging. Just being cynical, but I'm rooting for you!",
"Correction: 450k. No it's okay. Many people don't care about anything. But the other half is really awesome",
">Yes but we must not forget that they don't know any better. They live in a society that isn't educated.\n\nhorseshit.\n\nit's based entirely on the fad of consumption, no different from the rest of the world.\n\nIt's cool to do the cool thing. It doesn't matter what the cost is. Have to do the cool thing. \n\nIt's not about knowing. They simply don't give a fuck.",
"Wait until you hear what we do to cows and pigs",
"I don't consume animal products for precisely that reason ;-)",
"Some points not covered in the video:\n\n* They cut the fins off and throw them back in the water still alive to die a horrible death.\n\n* They're killed before sexual maturity, they don't get a chance to mate\n\n* Sharks are apex predators, top of the food chain. When you're decimate the population of an apex predator you **really** fuck up the ecosystem.\n\n* Oceans absorb roughly a quarter of our C02 emissions, this is another angle where we're fucking that up.",
"Fuck YOU Asia\\~",
"So if sharks weren't endangered you wouldn't have an issue with it?",
"1. It's Europe that kills these sharks, not Asia. \n2. Not every Asian eats fin soup.\n3. We're not any better than this. Let's look at the fishing industry: The fish gets dragged out of the water, sometimes the pressure difference is so high that their eyes explode, and the nets slice into their skin. Once on land they sort the fish while they suffer on land. 90% of the fish is bycatch and get's tossed back into the ocean (where they die from their injuries). The rest either suffocates (up to many hours) or gets sliced up alive.\n\nWe kill one billion fish per day. It's a human Problem not an asian problem.",
"Europe & Asia, where do I know that combo from again?",
"It's not horse shit. \n\n1. China has no free speech and if you're an animal rights activist you get killed. So there's no way to raise awareness.\n\n2. Many Asian barely get by. There have been times in which my gf didn't have money for food. Environmental awareness is too abstract for someone who lives in constant fear of bankruptcy.\n\n3. We don't give a fuck either. The fishing and meat industry is in no way better than this.\n\n4. It's the Chinese government that's fucked up not the entirety of it's people.",
"The oceans also produce 70% of the Oxygen ;-)",
"Do you know the documentary \"Dominion\"? It's a collection of standard industry practices that where filmed with hidden cameras.",
"> China has no free speech and if you're an animal rights activist you get killed.\n\n\n[weird](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Animal_Protection_Network)\n\nand that was just the first result.\n\n> So there's no way to raise awareness.\n\nChinese people aren't fucking mindless drones.\n\n>Many Asian barely get by.\n\n\nboo fucking hoo\n\n>There have been times in which my gf didn't have money for food. \n\nWhat a great time to consume.\n\n>Environmental awareness is too abstract for someone who lives in constant fear of bankruptcy.\n\nThe Chinese middle class is larger than the entire population of the USA.\n\n>It's the Chinese government that's fucked up not the entirety of it's people.\n\nNo it's the people who want to do the cool thing regardless of the cost because it is cool or makes them seem hip or powerful or important who can get fucked .",
"**[Chinese Animal Protection Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Animal_Protection_Network)** \n \n >Chinese Animal Protection Network (CAPN) is a non-profit animal protection organization, and the first network for animal protection in China, founded by Chinese people. CAPN is known for its pioneering role in the animal rights movement in China, leading the growing movement against eating cats and dogs, and providing a free encyclopedia on animal welfare information.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"That's just racist bullshit. I am not getting in to this.",
">That's just racist bullshit.\n\nNope. Try again.",
"\"boo fucking hoo\" = No empathy.\n\n\"No it's the people who want to do the cool thing\" = Reason they're fucked up is because that's just how they are",
">\"boo fucking hoo\" = No empathy.\n\nYep, not one tear for people trying to claw over each other (and the natural world) go do the Cool Thing.\n\n>No it's the people who want to do the cool thing\" = Reason they're fucked up is because that's just how they are\n\n\nYou should probably take some reading lessons.",
"Ugh my bad you said in the post above \"like all people\" ... fair point!\n\nI am not saying that what they're doing is right and justified. But trust me their education when it comes to environmental issues is lacking. And a lot of it has to do with poverty. Environmentalists do get killed (around 50 in the Philippines) when they mess with the wrong people.\n\nI am disappointed in Europe and my country because i expect us to be better, yet we support this bs.",
"Not every shark species is endangered.",
"please enlighten me",
"if we grew/farmed sharks like we do livestock i wouldnt",
"Humans are terrible creatures 😞",
"Imagine ACTUALLY believing this absolute horse shit, are you fucking DUMB or something?",
"Honestly i think some of your comments were bordering on racism...\n\nAlso didnt a NBA Star Yao Ming retire from the NBA and return to China, where he's rather famous and popular, and specifically start advocating against the practice of shark fining and shark fin soup?",
"If they were bred like livestock, I would still have an issue with it, but then it becomes solely an animal welfare issue, so it less critical than saving an endangered species.",
"Nothing like shark fin soup to wash down boiled alive dog am I right bois?"
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"Nice info",
"Really cool video. She has a very calming presence",
"Wow, I learned so much!\n\nLike, that I can keep ginger powder for years, but pepper is best ground fresh. And that black mustard seeds exist, which is why I couldn't recreate some Indian food with yellow mustard seeds.\n\nSeriously, watch this whole video.",
"No rosemary? fail.",
"Dey doin de spices, nat d’herbs",
"Rosemary belongs in all the things!",
"tldw; get an electric spice grinder\n\nGreat video though! Super interesting.",
"That doesn’t make it a spice though, it’s a herb so not within this video’s purview",
"Fantastic video.",
"Rosemary go wit de spud, natin else",
"And a microplane for nutmeg and hard cheeses",
"Is this really every spice? Good video but a little irked at the title maybe isnt accurate if it isn’t every spice",
"So exactly all of the spices? Not a single spice is left out?",
"This. I’m high af right now and all I could think after watching that was “ ok, interesting, but feel like I just got scammed into watching a subliminal add for an electric spice grinder!”",
"I always wonder what all these raw berries taste like. Like, what's pepper fruit taste like? Do people cook with it? Do people snack on it? What about nutmeg? That looked like it had a whole apricot sized thing going on. Why don't we have that in the grocery store?\n\nIt just feels like there's a world of fruits and vegetables out there that we've decided not to eat for no apparent reason."
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"It’s a bird",
"What the absolute hell",
"It's a plane!",
"It's Conan O'Brien!",
"Why does this video feel like it's from 2006 lol",
"But but but? Planes needs wings. How?",
"Doesn’t super man fly with his arms sticking forward?",
"I remember when the film \"Chronicle\" was released a [promotion was staged like this around NYC](https://youtu.be/dcDN409ZBv4)",
"dat chonky framerate",
"yes",
"look at the shape of the arms, they're just a very cleverly disguised set of wings",
"They spent all their money on making superman fly.",
"This is Naruto Superman.",
"Why is he wearing such a short cape?",
"That's cool, gonna freak some people out though.",
"If it's light enough, and you're producing enough thrust, you don't need much lift to stay airborne, you just need to keep the nose up.\n\n[In some of his other videos with even less aerodynamic looking aircraft you can see they produce enough thrust to hover in place when the nose is pointed up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiaTCxqSan8)",
"autopilot and remote",
"No its a remote.",
"Some kids are going to be angry when their parents called them liars when they tell their parents that they just saw Superman flying across the sky for real.",
"Super Dave Osborne did it first",
"these look terrible",
"I need new glasses.",
"My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everybody calls me, Giorgio..",
"Lmfao",
"And the short cape",
"You know why",
"This is homelander",
"Yoooo, he made it so Snoopy's head swivels! I like this Otto guy! Fuck the Red Baron!",
"It said Yuma, it’s basically 2006 there.",
"Please, fly this around the hood!",
"It's Donald Trump",
"blond supperman",
"Also with enough power you can make anything fly.",
"That sound he puts off is exactly like Superman",
"You will believe a man can fly, a remote control superman…",
"This is accurate",
"Sir, this is a Wendy's.",
"Cinemathicc",
"4:3 .... 20 FPS ... 720p resolution (which was pretty good for back then)",
"Do this in large park in a big city and you could freak some people out.",
"I feel like Ironman would've made more sense as the sound of the rc would kinnnndda sorts work with the mecha sounds vibe of Ironman.",
"Supperman is my favorite super hero",
"radical",
"See: Superman",
"That's his super farts",
"And not blonde. This is showtune broadway superman. He’s fiercccce.",
"Flying person technology has come a long way.",
"I love the way they throw him. YEET",
"720p wasn't even available on YouTube to be selected as an option until 2010 too.",
"Neat...but why is the video like 8 fps?",
"hey that's me",
"Well if it IS from 2006, this is a MUCH more impressive feat.",
"lol why did they make superman blonde",
"🥤🥩🍝🍞🥗🍴",
"can you make then fly horizontal? i'd like to get like 20 or 30 of these and just have them hover like 500 ft up above a downtown area.",
"do you not remember the flying lawn mower?",
"Gimme that sexy jutsu Superman.",
"I thought it was 3:10 there",
"I appreciate you",
"Needs a landing gear … what’s the best place to hide it you filthy bastards ?",
"Why can’t people put their spare time to more stuff like this",
"They need to market/produce more of these. How great would it be to have Superman or Iron Man flying past a children’s hospital. You could have them do a few fly bys and “land” on the roof before having an actor in costume come down to see the kids. It would be a magical experience. I could also totally see these being put to use at Disney’s new Avenger Academy.",
"I like to imagine the guy is real and that's the sound he purposely chose to yell out while flying",
"Imagine flying on a plane and seeing this from your plane window lol, would make a good prank",
"Certainly, also because Ironman actually flies like this with his hands back behind him, where as superman puts his fists forward ahead of him"
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"The darn uploader hasn't made it available in my country.",
"It was the F man himself!",
"Timestamp to the James May parts\n\npart 1 https://youtu.be/0TwJZfRms1M?t=1381\n\npart 2 https://youtu.be/0TwJZfRms1M?t=2312",
"hah! suck it Gordon you pretentious twat"
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Gordon Ramsay's Hilarious Cook Off Against James May | The F Word Full Episode
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"There was no one in the truck and no one approached or passed from when I got home until I noticed the car door open when I went outside to get something out of the VW at about 8:45p.",
"Your light didn't come on. Looks like someone failed to properly close it. Perhaps the handle is wonky?",
"I think really the seatbelt got stuck in the door. Really freaked us out though when I went outside to a wide open door and this on the nest lol",
"Yeah, that could do it. I often have to adjust my seat belt when I close the door to prevent it from getting wedged",
"I think you’re right about the seatbelt. You can see the door move just a tiny bit before it opens up. Interestingly enough, the big open of the door coincides with the leaves moving on that tree in the background, which makes me think it was the wind that opened it. This would have freaked me out a bit too!😅"
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I think my truck is haunted...
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"It gives a very quick and simple explanation of the software that shapes almost our entire physicial world from shoes to roads to movies to vehicles to buildings to electronics to nearly every manmade thing you can imagine.\n\nIt is amazing how one company controls so many software. This video gives a quick overview of these complicated software in a simple way.",
"Wow, what an awesome video. This is perhaps the best video I have seen in a long time. It is so information rich that it feels like I watched a 40 minute video, but its only 12 minutes long. The chuck reference at the end of the video totally encapsulate what I am feeling right now. Thank you so much! Subscribed.",
"Yes, this is the most information rich video I have seen too.",
"That was mind-blowing... no seriously, it really blew my mind due to so many visuals being presented so rapidly one after the other. \n\nI am surprised how he can compress so much into such a short video. I never thought he could do something better than that Adobe video he did an year ago and went viral everywhere... This video has certainly outdone that. I am sure this is going to be viral soon. This guy deserves way more recognition! Such a hidden legend!",
"Exactly!",
"As a longtime Autodesk software user, most of this video is about half right. Although Autodesk’s catalog is broad and deep, it has to be viewed in the context of the markets they play in.\n\nIt should be noted that the only true product Autodesk ever created from scratch is AutoCAD and it’s vertical products - AutoCAD Architecture, AutoCAD MEP, AutoCAD Electrical, MAP, Vehicle Tracking, and Civil3D. I think they built Fusion 360 and the cloud stuff too. Just about everything else - Revit, 3ds Max, Navisworks, Inventor, Mudbox, Maya - not to mention a bunch of competing products that Autodesk bought and promptly sank like a stone - was acquired over the years, usually when it became a threat to their place in some market or another. \n\nAutoCAD used to be the reigning king of general design software but not for about 10 years now. Everything has moved on to purpose-built solutions for the particular industry. Almost all building design and construction firms use the Revit platform. Today the AutoCAD platform is mostly used by smaller or niche AEC firms who haven’t made the move yet but the market clock is ticking. Inventor is a player in the mechanical design space (certainly not just used for prototyping and simulation, that’s just a feature), and has lots of competition in Solidworks and others. Autodesk does own a huge part of the Media & Entertainment market with 3da Max and Maya, which are more alike than not. Each sticks around due to market forces and user habit more than anything else but face stiff competition with Blender. Mudbox isn’t developed anymore - Autodesk ceded the sculpting crown to Zbrush long ago. Dynamo Studio itself was abandoned years ago and will formally be eliminated at the end of this year, although the Dynamo programming environment is hugely popular across Autodesk and non-Autodesk application platforms and in active development by Autodesk and plenty of others.\n\nBIM - Building Information Modeling - is pronounced as BIM (rhymes with “him”) not B-I-M. Revit and Navisworks are BIM applications; BIM 360 was recently rebranded Autodesk Construction Cloud.\n\nReCap Pro takes in laser scan point clouds and registers them together into a project and allows you to clean them up, and creates really crappy 3D mesh geometry. You bring the point cloud projects into Revit, AutoCAD, 3ds max, Maya, etc to create useful geometry. \n\nFinally, there’s lots of free stuff to play with, like Character Modeler and MotionBuilder.",
"Silly question, If I learnt any of these software, which would you recommend and are there jobs out there at a good wage (uk) ?",
"Mechanical design. Doing drawings for firms for submission if you can read drawings. Think of Revit as submitting a 3d drawing, Navis lets you fly around it. Learn Revit first.",
"He skipped Revit, the like main building app as you said. You said it perfectly, Revit + Navis and having to lose an intern solely to import and manage smaller contractors and their old 3d cad submissions.",
"You are probably best off learning Revit I’d say.",
"Every single software Autodesk makes can lead to a fulfilling career and a nice high paying job. I work in the AEC (architecture, engineering, & construction) so I use the AutoCAD platform, Revit, 3ds max, and Navisworks extensively and develop Dynamo graphs to customize those apps. For architectural and building engineering work you need training in understanding building design and documentation which you can get fairly inexpensively, at least in the US community college environment. Mechanical design may require more schooling but not much. Construction is perhaps easier to get into and pays higher when you are just starting out as a project engineer. You can get online certificates and degrees in 3D modeling for game development and other related work.",
"Revit is the “tip of the spear” in terms of AEC design. You building models of building projects as well as develop details, schedules, and documentation from the models in Revit. From there you can bring different 3D models from others, in Revit, AutoCAD, 3ds max, etc. into Navisworks which is used for design review, clash detection, and other construction-based tasks.",
"Yup. I did it in Manhattan. It's um, hard. Meeting with trades can be difficult at best when I'm trying to show them a clash they can't imagine happening or questioning an engineer about layout. It's currently not worth it to live in a city and be a WFH Bim Coordinator. The in face meetings were a lot more useful than the current model.",
"I don't know too much about all of this but I did use Fusion 360 to design some 3D printed parts for a personal project. Not knowing anything about or having any experience in CAD software, I can say it was pretty easy to get it to do what I wanted. I'm sure this sounds like astroturfing but all I can say is I recommend trying it out. It's free so you really have nothing to lose.",
"That feel when no Plant 3D :(",
"Civil 3D skill will go a long way.",
"I just went to a very basic novice course for Autocad and my boss wanted me to build from scratch some complex ass electronic box with wires and circuit cards and wanted alot of detail in it. I was like dude, I know how to make lines and shapes and simple room diagrams, there is no way it is time efficient to have me doing that from scratch.",
"No, revit is there in the video and explained longer than other products too. It is not skipped."
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All 50+ Autodesk software explained in 12 minutes -- A quick and interesting explanation of some of the most complicated software out there.
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https://youtu.be/mXpwgg5TxOU
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"I found this video very interesting, but this guys intonation quite distracting. That said, that's a me problem",
"A friend of mine once biked cross country and he said the worst place was Gary, Indiana. He says he kept thinking “Don’t get a flat, don’t get a flat….”",
"Little Ronnie Howard, sings: Gary Indiana, The Music Man. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjP2O9Qe4Ek&ab_channel=chaffer2",
"Not really presenters are supposed to be presentable. There's a reason people get paid to be TV presenters",
"What in the fuck is that inflection he does on the last word of every sentence. I can't pay attention. \n\nIs this video a joke?",
"Newscasters sound weird, but in a neutral kind of way. \n\nThis guy is straight up making his video sound like a parody of something.",
"I grew up hearing about how Gary was so incredibly dangerous. People made Gary jokes where the punchline was always how you'd get stabbed or murdered if you went there. But the video points out that Gary is no longer the murder capital of the United States; it's not even the top ten in Indiana. I've been perpetuating a stereotype that's just not true.\n\nEDIT: I did the math [below](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rk252b/comment/hp8fnap/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) based on the FBI UCR database from 2016, and claim in the video doesn't seem to be true by any stretch of the imagination. Gary is far and away the most violent city in Indiana, having a homicide rate of 60/100,000 residents, with the runner-up being Elkhart at 29/100K. Detroit's homicide rate is 86 while Chicago's is 58. It's not the most violent city in America, but it's certainly the most violent in Indiana.",
"He isn't being paid by a Corp though. He's being paid by people that love his content. So it must be a me problem. And maybe a few other people",
"Not so bad it’s still a shit place so you aren’t totally wrong.",
"Shout out Freddie Gibbs",
"Don't tell this man about Cairo, Illinois",
"Its unbelievable and not surprising how Capitalist anarchy has been test and tried many times in American history with disastrous effects. No one cares to incorporate this history into school literature and educate new generations. People keep repeating the same mistakes and keep voting for people who want to keep the capitalist anarchy status quo in place. And those fooled and history ignorant voters keep blaming scape goats... Unbelievable.",
"City Beautiful is just someone who’s just legitimately enthusiastic talking about urban planning. He has the same upbeat disposition in all of his many videos.",
"He copied his speech style from Tucker Carlson.",
"Indiana itself is a shit hole.",
"There are some nice parts",
"Must not be a college basketball fan",
"Didnt say anything about \"nice\" parts. Horrible state to live in.",
"I live here, I like it",
"😗",
"If there’s one thing I know about Gary, Indiana, it’s that it’s not Louisiana, Paris, France, New York, or Rome.",
"Mmm, still remember the smell of burnt brake linings...",
"tldw: the whole city smells like methane being refined but the refinery closed in the 80s",
"Why have you listed a state in America, the capital of France and then the country of France, an American city and an Italian city? I am confused",
"Sounds like ya got trouble.",
"I think he'd like to have a logical explanation how I happened on that elegant syncopation.",
"It's just Chicago trying to shift blame.",
"From the [FBI UCR database](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-6/table-6-state-cuts/indiana.xls), here are the top 10 cities in Indiana by homicide rate in 2016. There is probably more up to date information available too. Note that I'm only looking at cities over 10,000 in population, since anything smaller than that seemed disproportionately biased.\n\n|City|Population|Homicides/100,000 residents|\n|:-|:-|:-|\n|Gary|76,556|60.09|\n|Elkhart|52,505|28.57|\n|Speedway|12,189|24.61|\n|East Chicago|28,503|17.54|\n|Indianapolis|866,351|17.08|\n|Fort Wayne|261,642|16.43|\n|Merrilville|35,276|14.17|\n|South Bend|101,621|13.78|\n|Anderson|55,134|10.88|\n|Greenfield|21.653|9.24|\n\nGary has a much higher homicide rate than any of the other cities, by a huge margin. For reference, Newark's rate is 35.17, Detroit is 86.46, and Chicago is 58.31. So I'm gonna have to call bull on the video's claim, and also amend my top post to reflect this.",
"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjP2O9Qe4Ek](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjP2O9Qe4Ek)\n\nN.S",
"It's from the musical, the music man. And yes I'm embarrassed to know that.",
"Ahhh thankyou for taking the bullet of embarrassment to explain haha",
"Depends. How much traffic is there? Somedays, 1 hour north of Chicago is Glencoe.",
"Shout out to 18th st brewing",
"I've been in and driven through Gary plenty of times. I'm honestly a bit surprised to see how high the homicide rates are because most of it reminds me of a typical low/middle class town. I've visited some great breweries, restaurants, and the sand dunes in Gary. However, folks don't realize how far down south side Chicago ends - it definitely runs into Gary. This is the part of town I'd never stop for gas in.",
"Michigander here, IN is... what were we talking about?",
"Depends on the traffic. Somedays it's 60 mins north, assuming you're starting from the loop.",
"Is it the most miserable city due to homicides or lack of opportunities or people ? Have you ever been to Buffalo NY ? Flint Michigan ? What the hell the smell of decay in New York City in the summer is miserable for me!",
"I wonder if they'll reach out to me for a 'most miserable man in America' mini-doc",
"Ha! Jokes on you, Merrillville is just a town! Joking around because Merrillville, pretty sure, never wants wants become a city.. Grew up there, It's the place right underneath Gary that Gary wanted to annex in the 70s but the people said No and made their own town instead. And they have continued to vote No on becoming a city ever since. What's funny is they tried to annex a piece of Lake County in the 90s and the people of that area said No and became the town of Winfield. \n\nMerrillville is the epitome of car town refusing \"old Town\" vibes. They could have had an adorable little \"downtown\" area at 73rd and Merrillville Rd but it's just become a decrepit, decayed mess of old buildings No one wanted to maintain and build upon. Just a pretty sad creek town suburb.",
"That might be near Miller neighborhood of Gary where there are a lit of good things. Downtown Gary and party around there are kind of a ghost town. Once the steel mills didn't require 100000 people to operate, lots of people moved south into Merrillville and crown point, and some completely out of state because there weren't job opportunities anymore.",
"I echo your sentiments. \n\nI think my hang up is on how he emphasizes every final syllable to a sentence, almost as though he's wrapping up a point when he's just stating a fact.\n\n*\"The mills produced their first steel in nineteen-oh-NINE.\"*\n\n*\"One famous example is Pullman, IlliNOIS.\"*\n\nReally enjoyed the content otherwise.",
"I personally always thought Indiana was sort of shooting themselves in the foot with their motto, \"The Crossroads of America.\" \n\nOn one hand, I think I see what they were going for (all roads lead through us) but on the other hand I can't help but always interpret it as, \"Don't bother stopping, we're pretty much a drive-through state.\"",
"Oh my god. He literally does it at the end of every sentence. I was aware of that style of narration before, but i read your comment as i was watching the video and i had to stop immediately.",
"100% agree. I don’t know how you could listen to this after recording it and not come to the conclusion that you need to re-record a bunch of lines and mix up your cadence a bit. I had to stop watching.",
"ESGN",
"I thought maybe he was new at this and was still working on his style, but nope, he’s got nearly 500k subs and this video alone has millions of views. I don’t understand how this has not been brought to his attention.",
"Why was Louisiana in there? just didnt fit your other correct statements...",
"It’s definitely the smelliest.",
"ahh, got it. cute",
"id help but i just wanna go back to bed",
"Lived in Bloomington. I liked it.",
"Almost all of NW Indiana is a shithole. Gary is just part of it.",
"I was about to say. Of all of the cities I have seen I would be hard pressed to see one in worse shape than Cairo, IL or Pine Bluff, AR\n\nWell Cairo is much worse than pine bluff but PB is still bad.",
"I always wondered if Harold Hill sang that song because he loved Gary Indiana and wanted to sing it's praises, or if it was just another part of his con man act. The Music Man was produced in the 50s so it would seem like a song about Gary Indian being compared to Paris and Rome would seem odd to a 50s audience because it sounds like Gary was a dump even back then. Granted the Music Man is suppose to take place in 1912 but still it always seemed like an odd song.",
"If you've ever wanted to do a real-life poverty tour and experience some legit Fallout vibes... Cairo is the place",
"To be clear he's now a professor of urban planning, but yes he is also very enthusiastic about the topic",
"\\> \"Don't bother stopping, we're pretty much a drive-through state.\"\n\nThis is it. I think a lot of the State income comes from bullshit traffic tickets as people try to get out of the State as quickly as possible. \n\nThere are racist inbred assholes there, as well as the remnants of one of the large KKK groups in the Country.\n\n [https://www.wrtv.com/longform/the-ku-klux-klan-ran-indiana-once-could-it-happen-again](https://www.wrtv.com/longform/the-ku-klux-klan-ran-indiana-once-could-it-happen-again)\n\nOther dumb shit going on in Indiana \n\n[https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/04/us/vauhxx-booker-charged-felony-noose.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/04/us/vauhxx-booker-charged-felony-noose.html)\n\n[https://www.wishtv.com/news/i-team-8/mom-to-pull-child-from-international-school-of-indiana-amid-racists-attacks/](https://www.wishtv.com/news/i-team-8/mom-to-pull-child-from-international-school-of-indiana-amid-racists-attacks/)",
"Sorry to nitpick, but the song is sung by a little 10-year-old kid after hearing about Gary, Indiana from Harold Hill. Hill never sings the song.\n\nI also seem to recall that there are several historical discrepancies in Hill’s story about Gary, which implies that the story was part of the initial con.\n\nFUN FACT: In the movie, the part of the 10-year-old kid is played by young Ron Howard. When Howard later starred in the highly popular TV series “Happy Days,” his parents in the series make a comment about how much he looks like that kid in The Music Man.",
"100%. I noticed that he did was doing this with literally every sentence and once I noticed it I couldn't concentrate on anything else.",
"He has the same broken inflection as Practical Engineering. It's unbearable.",
"I think the craziest thing is that it's so close to Chicago. Around these parts people would love to live in a slightly more urban area right outside a major metropolitan area. Mind you, this is Canada, so the number of major cities to choose from is much smaller. But at a resident of a city that lives in the shadow of Toronto, I'm a bit surprised this \"small town\" urban area isn't seeing a massive resurgence. Maybe there's something about Gary I don't get, or maybe it's Americans hatred for walking, or maybe there's just too many cities to choose from as mentioned.",
"I'm surprised rich people don't buy the vacant churches and funnel their money through the church.",
"With a capital T??",
"Gary Indiana is the only place on that list where I have never been. Now I feel like I am missing out.",
"and that rhymes with P",
"Well, to be fair, it’s meant to be “Paris, France” — i.e. the city of Paris that is in the country of France (as opposed to, say, Paris, Texas) — and not two separate places. But still, see the other answer, which is correct."
] | 68 |
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The most miserable city in America
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https://youtu.be/DlmzwsFEiPQ
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/r/videos/comments/rk29av/british_humour_at_its_finest_hitlers_embarrassing/
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[
"Don't be such a 'grammar ally'! Fantastic lol",
"He shuda had Hunters agent.",
"\"Anyway, enjoy Burundi\"",
"*its finest",
"Don't be such a grammar ally",
"This guy has not learned from history, and has been doomed to repeat it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9UcKslxLo4",
"PSA to British people: It sucks a lot of comedy out of whatever you are presenting if you introduce something as “British humour at it’s finest” \n\nIt’s kind of pompous.",
"I'm Brazilian",
"That’s even worse",
"Unironically pronounced by what I presume is a fellow American. How embarrassing!",
"How so? British humour is a very specific type of dark humor, it's not exclusive to them, but it's heavily associated with them.",
"meh"
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British humour at it's finest! : Hitler's Embarrassing Art | Forgotten History
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https://youtu.be/fOwJP9i1Vnw
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/r/videos/comments/rk391w/how_many_shots_will_we_need_to_get/
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[
"How many people downvoting the headline without even watching the video? Or the people who expect to be reinforced from the headline and watch the video, then get upset when they watch it and downvote? \n\nLol",
"Even the first couple phrases in the video are pretty concerning.",
"I love the argument that conservatives keep making about how \"X was considered 'fully vaccinated' and now *Y* is considered 'fully vaccinated', where will it end?\"\n\nI've seen all six Star Wars movies, and now suddenly I'm *wrong* because the goalposts keep moving? Where does it end?\n\nEDIT: Is it really so hard to understand that if an update comes out and you don't have it, you aren't fully updated?",
"Now bow down before your government! Or they will get their corporate overloads to fuck you in the ass and blame you for it while they take away all of your liberties.",
"What was I wrong about?"
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HOW MANY SHOTS WILL WE NEED TO GET?
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https://youtu.be/jSdJaCKHaes
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/r/videos/comments/rk3z1y/did_daddy_do_that_to_you_the_right_way_to_teach/
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[
"This is fucking weird and borderline abuse",
"This is a great sex talk with their kids. Of course the kids are squeamish, because they're processing it. But it doesn't mystify or obscure it. It doesn't cloak it in moralism, just describes to reality of it. \nThese parents are doing it the right way and their kids are much better off for it.",
"They're processing but they are listening.",
">This is the poor sex education you get in school kind of way of describing sex.\n\nYou mean the frank scientific discussion of human sexuality? That's the way it should be.",
"Nonsense. They obviously stop and listen, how else can they ask mom and dad clarifying questions? Yes they giggle and squirm, so what? You clearly don't know how kids work.",
">It's not the content of what's being spoken. It's the atmosphere\n\nA safe and familiar environment with trusted adults?",
"Ok Karen. Loving parents are educating their kids about sex in a respectful and non moralistic way. But you're on here trolling bc the kids are giggling. 🙄",
"They are listening and asking directly relevant questions in response to what is being said. How is this not listening and paying attention. Because they think it’s funny hearing it the first time? Sorry no, you either didn’t watch the whole video or simply have no concept of children and what they are like.",
"This is better than how I found out about the mechanics of sex in the 80’s. Woods porn.",
"That’s right you clearly don’t know.",
"Lol. Don't let me get in the way of your moral high horse.",
"Just says the right way not the best way. It’s common american vernacular to say something this way if it is a good method. I think that has exhausted the reserve of goalpost moves for you.",
"It IS tiring, for real.",
"Any idea what book this is?",
"Woods porn here too.",
"I cannot believe they posted this on YouTube. I feel so bad for those kids. The parents are absolutely allowed to teach their kids about this topic but this video should never have been posted for the world to see.",
"was it gross? not really"
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"Did Daddy do that to you...?" The right way to teach your kids about the 'birds & the bees.'
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https://youtu.be/kwWcEhHCrhc
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/r/videos/comments/rk40u9/i_am_from_a_small_town_in_india_just_released_a/
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[
"I can’t stop.",
"I think I should be able to hear the guitar and tambourine when you pick them up and play them.",
">please tell me why you think\n\nWell, that’s a philosophical question I’m not equipped to answer at 8:30 on a Sunday night.",
"I made it ten seconds.",
"Better than I thought it would be?",
"I’m really impressed. I loved your song!!! Always nice to hear a new Christmas song. Very nice job and I wish you the best of luck.",
"I think because i have a brain :p",
"Give it up"
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I am from a small town in India. Just released a new Christmas single, please tell me why you think
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M32Qg5PKoDE
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/r/videos/comments/rk49xe/polar_bear_mascot_keeps_falling_during_photo_shoot/
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[
"Is he falling on purpose? Some of those falls looked suspicious.",
"I am crying! That's too funny!",
"Intentional but, quite funny.",
"Perfectly time just after the lines as well."
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Polar bear mascot keeps falling during photo shoot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhFJ7VSqrE&ab_channel=coladict
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/r/videos/comments/rk4nka/tealc_could_make_a_stone_sweat/
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[
"I suppose you need the context of the character being a scary dude or whatever, looks a bit silly without it.",
"indeed",
"indeed",
"Tbf teal’c has probably had way harder interrogation suspects when he was with the goa’uld",
"My high ass thought you did a boneappletea of TLC",
"indeed",
"He isn't a scary character, he's just intimidating to be around.",
"Isn't this the dude who voiced Kratos?"
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Teal'c could make a stone sweat
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https://youtu.be/AYHjYb2fOyQ
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/r/videos/comments/rk4vck/coco_remember_me_cover_by_musicnibble_tribute/
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[
"Stop it! Damn tear fest that scene was. Remembering my abuelita , and great abuelita RIP.",
"I made this as a tribute to my grandmother who passed away last week due to lungcancer",
"My grandmother passed in 2020, right at the start of the pandemic. I loved her so much, but we all saw it coming. Then my grandfather on the other side of the family past mid-pandemic, though I wasn't really close with him. My only living grandparent is the grandmother of that side, an abuelita (I am half-latino), but she's just a psycho I'd rather not get involved with. I don't quite know why I'm typing all of this, words just came to my fingers. Guess I'll leave you with my condolences, a beautiful way to cope with the loss, and a beautiful song at that:)",
"thank you so much my guy and my respects to you too"
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Coco Remember me cover by musicnibble [Tribute]
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https://youtu.be/Xwm9jBKv2RE
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/r/videos/comments/rk58qb/amazing_car_game/
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"Ok",
"I have 1000+ comments karma"
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Amazing car game
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https://youtu.be/btX4pbpXZzs
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/r/videos/comments/rk5pbb/spiderman_no_way_home_is_overhyped_garbage/
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[
"It's fine.",
"I thought it was plenty of fun and well done.",
"This post is over hyped garbage",
"I loved it. F off.",
"I'm just here to downvote revenue clickbait garbage without actually clicking the link at all.",
"edgy contrarian review that contradicts itself and fails at its attempt to be funny, 1/10."
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Spider-Man: No Way Home Is Overhyped Garbage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SQ-TJKPPIg&ab_channel=Moon
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/r/videos/comments/rk5s0x/take_a_peek_fellow_redditors/
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[
"The fact that only 6% of Reddit posts get removed to me actually proves that there isn't a censorship problem on Reddit.\n\nIf you don't think that *at least* 6% of Reddit posts are worthless garbage that deserve removal then you must not've been here very long.\n\nAs a personal aside, I'm getting some strong incel vibes from this YouTube channel. Definitely seems sus.",
"time stamp please",
"It's mentioned about a minute in. Did... Did you not watch the video you just posted?",
"time stamp please :) \nedit : its at 1:02 \n6 people deleted 6% of ALL posts. consider how many posts are made in a day. maybe watch the 30 minute thing and not the first minute :)",
"Why label him as an incel? \nThe problem with Reddit is people like you honestly",
"Notice that I said \"incel vibes\". I'm not making a definitive claim about whether or not this person is an incel. Reading comprehension is important.\n\nAs to why I feel that way, it's the video titles. \"Tinder is Worse Than You Thought\", \"The Evil Economics of OnlyFans\", \"Why Men are Weaker Than Ever\", etc. These titles echo common incel talking points.",
"He has several videos labeled \"it's worse than you thought.\" Is it? It's fucking social media, of course it's bad. Do you pay for it? Then YOU'RE the product. Since that's the case, they're going to have methods of \"quality control,\" which doesn't have to be right or ethical as it's a private company in times of peak capitalism. You are their cattle. \n\nNo one should have any expectation of \"freedom of speech\" on social media platforms. For one, unless the government is involved and trying to shut you up, this whole freedom of speech thing doesn't apply. In this case, its more of a concept than any kind of rule. Sure, we would like to have freedom on these platforms, but you should never expect it. \n\nI wish people would really rap their heads around the fact that, in general, social media has become evil. Outside influences have learned that people can pretty easily be manipulated through these platforms. ALL of them. The more popular the platform, the more likely you've interacted with foreign agents or bots. \n\nTo me, these moderators are small potatoes with what is really going on. I don't really care about the volume of deletion, as it honestly seems low. There is so much low effort content along with misleading content, that 6% feels kind of on the low side actually. \n\nAs far as comments, /r/videos has had a recently influx of bots commenting. The comments are ripped directly off YouTube and posted, trying to get upvotes as well as time on the platform. Then the bots will be more open to post everywhere on reddit without restriction. Why? Could be many reason, but I doubt its good. You can recognize these bots pretty easily. They use reddit generated names, like randomword_randomword_3or4digits, with an account age less than 10 days. If you look on their history, they've also posted in other languages, like Spanish or Japanese. Finally, go to the YT video and comments will match comments there. I reported about 20 of these bots just yesterday, and about 5 more today. This is without looking hard.\n\nSo, it's not just moderators who are a problem. Is there a problem with reddit? Yes, but it's all social media. Because of this, I think this series of videos is pointing in the wrong direction. We, as users, have a ton of fault. We've let this happen because we continue down the path of confirmation bias. Most people are fine with this as long as it's not THEIR content being censored. This is why a lot of critics of censoring speech are conservative leaning. They push the most misinformation and it needs to be deleted. This can happen with left wing information as well, but anyone who pays attention can see the problem with conservative media right now. Literally pushing against a pandemic.",
"because it makes them feel good i guess? they like snoo and everyone else is just a mean old incel >:)"
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take a peek fellow redditors
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-W-3DFHna4
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/r/videos/comments/rk64ho/bbc_reporter_of_21_years_signs_off_his_final/
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[
"Luckily for him, the teleprompter wasn't sabotaged…",
"Going to miss Andrew Marr, his Sunday morning grillings of politicians was always great entertainment.",
"Godspeed you beautiful bastard.",
"I worked in TV News for many years. Everyone that worked in that industry was obsessed with Anchorman.",
"I was deeply hoping for \"Go fuck yourself Sandiago\"",
"I’m Andrew Marr?",
"Go fuck yourself San Diego",
"Good for him. Well done.",
"Same.",
"His remaining hair on top is off centered",
"Or at least \"I'm Ron Burgundy?\"",
"[Obligatory Chomsky video.](https://youtu.be/lLcpcytUnWU)",
"\"I'm Ron Burgundy?\"",
"que gran final",
"And incase I don’t see ya, good afternoon, good evening and good night.",
"I was really hoping for this one",
"You can tell he's had a stroke, and [sure enough he has](https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/current-affairs/andrew-marr-on-life-after-his-stroke-i-dont-do-tears-i-come-from-dundee/). Poor guy.",
"I looked that up.It was a fundraiser on behalf of Action for Rehabilitation from Neurological Injury. Marr had just recovered from a stroke.\n\nYes, he seems to socialise with politicians. Yes, that was his job.",
"As a resident of San Diego we are only known for:\n\nMasterbating in public after a failed charity scam.\n\n\"Go fuck yourself, San Diego.\"\n\nAnd one of the Jurassic Parks. \n\nOh, and I think I've ran into Tony Hawk like four times?",
"> Yes, that was his job.\n\nThat literally is the antithesis of his job.",
"Do you know how Anchorman 2 was received in the industry?",
"While I was looking up controversies, I think I stumbled on what actually annoys you about Marr.\n\nI don’t think it’s him attending a fundraiser for Action for Rehabilitation from Neurological Injury. I think it’s about the time he asked Jeremy Corbyn to clarify his position on Brexit, and Corbyn refused 5 times in a row.\n\nI can understand if that annoyed you, but a recovering stroke victim raising funds for Action for Rehabilitation from Neurological Injury? Not so much.",
"I thought the credits were gunna roll and he was gunna riff the lines RB does in the movie",
"I know you for Tony Gwynn.",
"You brought that up not me. So thanks for picking some random bullshit of Marr's long and shitty past out of the ether and using the example you chose to paint your entire interpretation of my view point.",
"Don't feel too bad, could always be worse. Tucson is only known for... Tucson things.",
"He was either choking up or having second thoughts about his choice for final words when he got to that point.",
"Jackin' it, jackin' it, jackety-jack.\nSpankin' it, jackin' it, spankety-smack",
"[JACKIN IT! SMACKIN IT! SMACKITY SMACK!](https://youtu.be/LKwW8PNZpOQ)",
"Tucson is known for a Family Guy joke and being mentioned in a Steve Miller song.",
"That's a lot of accusations and very little substance.",
"Don't forget Blink 182",
"Probably the same as it was everywhere else, largely ignored.",
"How did you know?",
"but it was good!",
"the mouth im guessing",
" Njn",
"Summarizes his entire career.",
"All I’m saying is that I could understand that interview as an *example* of why you don’t like Marr.\n\nHim attending a fundraiser, no, I can’t understand why that would make you angry. \n\nYou called him a cunt for attending a charity fundraiser for stroke victims, when he was recovering from a stroke. When you call someone a cunt and give an example of decidedly un-cuntish behaviour, well, it doesn’t come across as brilliantly as you think.",
"What’s amazing though is what a brilliant recovery he made. He had to work hard for a long time but managed to return to his job and do just as well at it.",
"Yes, he talks from one side of the mouth, and there's a very slight slur.",
"Holy fuck, that was awesome.",
"Yes indeed. I'm sure he's put in a lot of hard work. Marr is a giant of political broadcasting and this is testament to his skill and determination.",
"It's very slight, but if you've seen it in other people you tend to recognise it. I must say he's dealt with it extremely well and it's almost completely unnoticeable, which must have taken a lot of work.",
"So you’re a sandiegoan - sandiegoite - sandiegan…?",
"I see, I've never seen it before so I didn't know what stood out to you.",
"[Good riddance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_JC371jxPI)",
"No it wasn't",
"People only learned it's not pronounced \"tuck-son\" thanks to a Korean car company.",
"Half his face doesn't move...",
"It was the same as the first film, but not as good.,",
"Whoa, if you didn't point that out I would have assume it's just a quirk he has.",
"Wha? There was an Anchorman 2 ???",
"I was hoping for the whale vagina quote",
"Choking up, I think. I saw the start of that show and when the presenters of the bit before handed over to him and were getting a bit gushy about it being his last show, he snapped it all back to super-professional tone so fast, totally didn't engage with the feels at all at that point. I think he was trying to keep it together.",
"That guy wasn't jacking it and wasn't scamming anyone, he was just in over his head and had a mental breakdown. \n\nInternet historian did a video about it.\n[link](https://youtu.be/Y7nymZEXjf8)\n\nEdit:fixed link",
"i think the san diego song is probably the best song they've done\n\nalso the yelp song, they were on a roll in that era with good tracks",
"Definitely the wrong link lol",
"Link goes to a google ad",
"Scotch, Scotchy, Scotch.",
"exactly that, it was good not great like the first one. it's hard to live up to the first great one of things, ask musicians",
"21 years ago? you mean this guy has only been on since the start of the millennium?",
"That Chainsmokers song too",
"Yep! It depicts the rise of sensationalist news.",
"And a Beatles song",
"From the start of the last millenium or he's a noob.",
"I've always said Sandiegan, but \"fresh from the 619,\" and \"north county\" also work.\n\nEdit: north county is an odd one. I think it starts at La Jolla and goes up north past Oceanside? Includes Vista and San Marcos, but not Escondido? Cuts off when Carlsbad gets too east?",
"He then went off to have a scotch.",
"his mouth, he favours his right side.",
"And for being Jojo’s home city.",
"My dad worked in local broadcast news in the 70s through the late 80s. Him and his old broadcast buddies thought Anchorman 2 was a little too close to home.",
"I'm addicted to that song in a mashup with \"Fast Car\":\n\nhttps://sowndhaus.audio/track/6349/daw-gun-closer-in-a-fast-car-chainsmokers-v-tracy-chapman",
"I still don't know what stood out to him.",
"it's pretty obvious",
"To play us out? What does that mean? There's no words there!",
"Tory conch shell",
"* whale's vagina\n\n* all the fireworks going off at once \n\n* reminding people that we're not part of mexico \n\n* correcting people's pronunciations of tijuana",
"You can't just post this and not link the video: https://youtu.be/LKwW8PNZpOQ",
"We all were. OP’s title was perfect",
"BURN",
"damn back when SD had a footbal lteam",
"What a legend!",
"There was. And it was... fine. Not nearly as a good or as quotable as the first movie, but not unwatchably bad either",
">Oh, and I think I've ran into Tony Hawk like four times? \n\nNah, you've run into him like 84 times, you just almost recognized him four of those times, lol",
"Sandiegite",
"Why is Stan dancing nude in San Diego?",
"Damn it! Who typed a question mark on the teleprompter?! For the last time, anything you put on that prompter, Marr will read.",
"All BBC employees are paid by public money on account of it being a public corporation.\n \nWhen they do their job, they get paid, and that becomes private money.\n \nThe BBC shouldn't issue pay on political activity or stance. That's insane.\n \nIt's fine if you don't think he did his job, but saying public money was used so he should behave a certain way the public likes, that's madness.",
"He'll do it live. Shit sucks.",
"Stan has a mental breakdown at the end of Butterballs.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterballs_(South_Park)",
"I appreciated the absolute absurdity of the subplot where Ron goes blind and moves into a lighthouse with his family and raises a shark named Doby",
"Facial paralysis. The right side of his face is doing all the work. It results in some words being slurred a bit too. Watch his mouth, the left side is expressionless. \n\nBut considering he basically can’t use his left arm, and he can’t walk very well because of the paralysis in his left leg, he’s doing amazing.",
"Legend.",
"I must be one of the only people that liked the second movie more",
"You forgot about [Tank Boy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Nelson_\\(criminal\\))!",
"What do they think of Newsroom? At least season 1.",
"Disagree with the title of the video. It ends before we see anyone being \"stumped\".",
"I was hoping for a \"Go fuck yourself UK\".",
"Here it goes down, down in my belly.",
"I LOVE BBC",
"As a San Diegan, I can appreciate that.",
"It's also a reference to the jackass behind the \"Kony 2012\" viral documentary having a mental breakdown where he stripped completely naked and started jacking off in broad daylight in San Diego",
"It's a reference to when the guy who started Kony 2012 had a public mental breakdown.\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/16/kony-2012-campaigner-detained",
"True story: worked at Aaron Brothers in Encinitas and this guy comes in with his son.\n\nI log them into the system to build a frame.. first name Tony.. okay, can I get a last name?\n\nUhh... Hawk.\n\nSUPER nice guy. Met him when I was 14 at a skatepark and he hung out with everyone.",
"Ive always heard it as sugondes",
"Half his face is partially paralyzed. If you watch his mouth, he kind of talks out of one side. That is common in people who have had strokes.",
"I always liked Andrew Marr.. and I now live in San Diego!",
"I was going for a r/Woosh on that. I saw it, it wasn't good.",
"I can't sleep 'cuz what if i dream of going back to San Diego! We bought a one way ticket so we can go see the The Cure and sing our favorite songs in the parking lot and think of every person I've ever lost in San Diego! (San Diego!) Can't go back to San Diego.",
"I did watch it. Bad enough that my mind suppressed that I had seen and I ended up watching it again.",
"I would never fucking say fuck! Fuck!",
"Most of the problems with the movie would've been solved by cutting it like 20 minutes shorter.\n\nThe movie would fall into a very annoying pattern of:\n\n- Genuinely really funny joke\n- Repeat it, beat it dead until you're like, okay, move on\n\nA lot of that could've used some tighter script doctoring or post editing.",
"That was almost a movie in itself",
"As a sailor I always liked to think of SD as the gateway to Tijuana.",
"I always found him more grilling of the opposition party than the government",
"What does he actually say?",
"Yeah the video says \"stumped\" but all it does it just...cut off right before Andrew Marr is *clearly* about to respond.",
"His last words he stole from someone else, sums up the unoriginality of his whole career.",
"When I think of San Diego I think of Youtuber/Twitch Streamer PaymoneyWubby.",
"Im mad as HELL and Im not gonna take it anymore!",
"It's no Anchorman, but it's still a funny movie. Did you know they call rat \"chicken of the cave\"?",
"What about Carmen San Diego?",
"I remember absolutely nothing about the second movie, got a few bullet points you can think of?",
"It was about news broadcasts going from the nightly news to 24/7, drop everything for an exciting car cash, shift to entertainment and 24/7 \"news.\" Subsequently the death of widely viewed local tv.",
"God damn, BBC has lost both Andrews (Neil and Marr). Who's going to ask the difficult questions now?\n\n(Neil might be remembered by American Redditors from his [interview with Ben Shapiro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r3zUGqk), which was... hilarious - btw Andrew Neil is a pretty hard-core conservative and right winger, and was involved in the creation of GB News; our home-grown right wing Fox-News-for-UK wannabe news channel - but he, like Andrew Marr, had a great talent for putting his own views aside and just absolutely ROASTING his interviewees when needed)",
"As was i.",
"I loved it. Reddit just loves to shit on things sometimes.",
"I know we meme about redditors going into the comments without actually clicking the link, but come on guy it's a 40 second video",
"You poop mouth",
"[here’s a link to the whole programme.](https://youtu.be/GjENnyQupow)",
"Go firework yourself tía Juana",
"Drugs are bad mkay\n\nKyles moms a bitch(in d minor)\n\n..",
"Disappointed he didn’t go with “go fuck yourselves San Diego”",
"Hoping hoping hoping... nope.",
"\"Stay classy San Diego\"",
"Tee-jew-anna?",
"His tie looks atrocious.",
"Get back!",
"WAIT, THATS WHERE THE JACKIN’ SONG COMES FROM?!?!?",
"I assume KC was from... KC?",
"San Diego*",
"Masturbating*",
"No one calls them chicken of the cave...",
"go fuck yourself San Diego*",
"Honestly I think you take out that kid out of the movie entirely and it's a much better movie.",
"Does he have Bell’s Palsy?",
"movie reference!",
"Beautiful haha",
"I did not hear a single person ever mention Anchorman 2",
"All of newsroom was awesome. It just hit at the wrong time. Much better than the pile of crap Apple TV morning show.",
"My older brother took me to see the original full-length movie in the theater, and I remember at about 30 seconds into the song \"Uncle Fucker\" a dad streaking up the aisle towards the exit with his two kids in tow. I've loved that song ever since, haha.",
"I'd not seen that clip before. The bias and blatant editorialising seen there is an excellent snapshot of all the other interviews I've seen him do. I for one am very happy to see him leave.",
"Great Odin's raven!",
"Go fuck yourself, San Diego*",
"Its also kind of a \"time and place\" thing.\n\nSurely we all remember Zoolander 2.",
"That is one *hell* of a tie. I want one.",
"They hired the writers from Family Guy?",
"It's sad the only thing I can remember from the second is him being blind and raising a shark he rescued",
"San Diego is my favorite city out of all the cities we've visited.",
"we're also known for a zoo, and good mexican food",
"Man I was so ready for it",
"To play us out? What does that even mean? F* it, we'll do it live!",
">he, like Andrew Marr, had a great talent for putting his own views aside\n\n[There were other things he had a great talent for putting aside, too.](http://www.private-eye.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/andrew-neil.jpg)",
"That's the best part.\n\n\"I'm BUH-LIND\"",
"Doesn't Three's Company take place in San Diego?",
"You better stay classy then, ArsePucker!",
"Kony 2012 seriously feels like a fever dream more than something that actually happened.",
"Really? In Korean it would be 투싼, which is exactly what the city name is (Two-Ssan).",
"had a stroke",
"Gonna be a tough ask with my name.. but I’ll try!",
"Anchorman 2 and Zoolander 2 were both good.",
"... *I'm* Ron Burgundy?",
"Lost redditors....???",
"I was waiting and waiting for it. I was disappointed.",
"Seems to be a bot",
"The final fight was pretty funny, I believe a confederate general’s spirit was brought to life\n\nEdit: [link to the scene](https://youtu.be/KY5Ug1OW5O4)\n\nEdit: omg I forgot will smith was in this and his intro is so good",
"That is funny. Great English humor.",
"Fuck i wish i didn't have to be reminded chomsky exists",
"I don´t know the context here, can you clarify?",
"I just assumed it was because he’s English, they always talk wacky",
"Is it bad I was hoping he might go that route?",
"They accidentally discovered the 24 hour news format, and realized they didn’t have to be reporters anymore, they could just be personalities and make hot takes.",
"What’s wild is “21 year reporter signing off with Anchorman” haha\n\n“Realizing Anchorman came out when he was only 4 years into the job” …oh no…",
"I mean seriously, I forgot there was an Anchorman 2 till just now but Anchorman I never forgot.",
"Dumb as fuck and not remotely what was promised.",
"Where do you get that fantastic tie he was wearing?",
"I started watching it, made it as far as the slow motion RV crash scene, turned that shit off.",
"I was so gutted they changed the format away from incorporating substantial real news stories. The Kathy Giffords and UBL episodes are brilliant.",
"Goddamn. I remember being 12 and my 15 year old cousin would play South Park and we'd both laugh the night away. And now, years later, its clear that the show is for fucking retarded children who don't grow up. Well this grown up retarded child can't defend them.",
"As someone who suffered a similar public mental breakdown I sympathize with the guy. I have a secret theory he was gaslit by powers that be to stop the momentum of his movement that was actually gaining traction",
"Did Comicon move?",
"Oh my god is that his voice? \n\nI absolutely do not condone the idea of judging somebody based on the way they look or the way they speak, but I did not expect that voice from Benny considering how angry he always is.",
"A bot that goes around calling people fat?",
"Well, either that or a very weird person. Take your pick, neither is impossible",
"What a bloke",
"Similarly to this, there's a story about British politicians reacting to comedy series *The Thick Of It*, about spin doctors who help elected MPs. They said that the show was extremely accurate, save for the fact that the show didn't have nearly enough swearing.\n\n[Considering what the show is like](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYOlBsls-C0), what do they do in actual politics?!",
"Jason Russell, the founder of Invisible Children, did have a mental breakdown in San Diego where he stripped himself naked and was talking to himself, after a non-stop interview tour around the country. However, he did not masturbate in public- there is no photo or otherwise physical evidence of this, it was a rumor that was perpetuated by news. Of course, that doesn’t stop South Park from making light of it anyways lol\n\nHighly recommend [Internet Historian’s video](https://youtu.be/Y7nymZEXjf8) on it to see the whole case.",
"I actually really like Zoolander 2, and don't like the first one at all.",
"I'm sorry, what did he do to you?",
"Chomsky is a moron",
"They’d be a villain lol",
"I forgot there was an Anchorman 2.",
"I always associate San Diego with weekend Tijuana trips, thrash metal, and Legoland.",
"I dislike him",
"He nailed that line and he fuckin knew it",
"I can't believe the bbc allowed that f bomb on air",
"I'm Truman Burbank?",
"But unironically this is what happened. Its really sad, cuz i wanted to get into journalism, just the politics and red tape would drive me insane and not having a ratings worthy story.\n\nThis is also a reason why everything in the US is so hot button and seems like bad shits always happening. 24/7 breaking news (ratings news). \n\nWe have a news station for pretty much every county, state, and nation wide we have like 10 networks, and its all team sports now (politics).",
"You just unlocked a memory from that movie",
"https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Recurring_jokes_in_Private_Eye\n\n>A regular feature of the Letters page is \"Photo Opportunity\", where correspondents concoct spurious reasons for the magazine to print a particular 1995 photo of journalist Andrew Neil embracing a young woman, often described as Asian or mistaken for former Miss India Pamella Bordes – though she is in fact African American. On the photograph's initial printing, it was learned that Neil found the photograph embarrassing, and the Eye has reprinted it frequently since.",
"I will always love the randomness of having the ghost of Stonewall Jackson sucking the souls out of people.",
"He had a terrible stroke. Learnt how to function again, came back to reporting after everything and only just retired. Andrew Marr is really very admirable",
"Except he's Scottish.",
"> But 87 years ago, on 18 April 1930, the BBC's news announcer had nothing to communicate. \"There is no news,\" was the script of the 20:45 news bulletin, before piano music was played for the rest of the 15-minute segment.\n\nhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39633603\n\nFunny how things change",
"He's Scottish",
"Oh my gosh I watched Still Game all the way through and didnt notice the Scottish, is it just mild or a different region with a mild accent?\n\nSource: my front door mat is Weclome",
"SUCK MY MOTHER FUCKING DICK HELL YA!!. I love trips to TJ, was in a metal band and worked at Legoland after high school lololol",
"And a minotaur, and a gun from the future\n\nThe final fight was some serious \"ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny\" kinda stuff",
"better",
"Hey, maybe it's best I don't know how to spell it? Haha",
"Knew this would be posted, thank you!\n\nWhat I love about it is that Chomsky is 'subtweeting' Marr to his face. \n\nHe may as well be saying \"I'm talking...about you.\"",
"That's how they talk in Britain",
"> Corbyn refused 5 times in a row\n\nIf I remember right, Corbyn didn't refuse to answer because he had no plan (as the papers would write anyway). Didn't he say that he was planning on letting the party vote on which side to take, or similar, hence him being unable to say what they were going to do?\n\nI mean, it's still crappy from Marr to be such a dick, but I wanted to highlight the reason before the Sun wrote another article based on this.",
"He wasn't masturbating. That's just an ugly rumor the media started because apparently the guy having a breakdown and wandering around naked wasn't sensational enough for them.",
"I have a lot of love for San Diego, I'm so thankful my wife and I can live here.",
"Well, I was CLOSE! Really expected fuck you.",
"I visited Cali for the first time last year. I kept saying “San Diego… it means a whales vagina.” We were there for three days, my parents were not amused.",
"They're talking about the [Hyundai Tucson SUV](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Tucson).\n\nI live in AZ, have had more than a few people mispronounce Tucson, and my first response in that scenario is to say \"it's pronounced like the car\".",
"If I lift my blinds I see the hills of TJ. I like feeling kinda European, bordering another country. I'm a tourist in my own home!",
"Same with any 24/7 \"news\" channel. CNN, Fox, ESPN. \n\nTonight, after the 2nd game of the new NBA season, why the Lakers have already won and everyone else should just quit. Later, Aaron Rogers has a pimple on his ass that looks a lot Joe Rogan. Will it help him win the Super Bowl?",
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"I was hoping for a, 'Go fuck yourself London (or Great Britain)' lol",
"OHHHHH DOBY",
"wtf?",
"I giggled like a schoolgirl. Lmao",
"Why would you ever want to be a journalist? Please expound",
"Ah yes, a whales vagina",
"He had a stroke.",
"Jackin' for the loooooord!",
"Yes, and presents no evidence to back it up",
"For real, what is this phenomenon that makes people forget this movie? I’ve watched it and only remember the RV crash scene. I have many friends irl that also only remember vague parts of that movie. Was it that bad?",
"The BBC is a propaganda shit show and this guy thinks he’ll be remembered 😂\n\nI’ve known 20 people cancel their tv licence this year at least",
"How does one present evidence in a television interview?",
"and your zoo",
"I love lamp",
"And East County starts at I-15, even at El Cajon Blvd?\n\n(These are by-products of a sort of Extra Downtown Non Est Vita attitude)",
"Come. Take a load off.",
"Santa Monica is what it looks like in the intro.",
"Hey now. We're also known for masturbating in public while doing security at nfl games.",
"No, the germans who discovered it in 1904 named it ‘San Diago’ which of course in German means ‘a whale’s vagina’",
"\"A minotaur isn't even history! It's mythology!\"",
"I know that I would have walked out if it wasn't for the fact that a friend was my ride home. The finale full of cameos made up for it a little though. Entirely forgettable movie otherwise.",
"Well, that's fucking irrefutable. Apologies for being a condescending prick.",
"Same.\n\nI also like the British Broadcasting Corporation.",
"This might be the hottest take I've seen in a while lol",
"It’s not his final broadcast. He’s just run to the money from the BBC",
"Accurate and based.",
"The larger scale fight was pretty great in 2.\n\nBest line coming from the siren playing her song all dramatically and then just saying real low \"that means you can start..\"",
"Local news is much less team politics than 24 hour news. I’ve worked in the business for 8 years now and I love it. I couldn’t imagine doing anything else. I’ve done story’s that have helped people (exposed a slumlord and got real change for them) I’ve done fluff stories (cat missing for 3 years reunited with owner) and everything in between. I know Journalists get a lot of hate but there some great ones out there. Boyd Huppert is a fucking legend for his story telling.\n\nIt all really depends on what the parent company of the station is (Sinclair is a monster, nexstar is notoriously cheap as hell). Don’t let the 24 hour net works cloud your judgment of all journalists.",
"I thought he might sign off \"I'm Andrew Marr?\"",
"All ears.",
"He actually doesn't though. Whilst I agree that the video title is annoying and sensationalist, if you watch the full video (linked by /u/AluminiumAwning), he doesn't respond to that specific point, he gently changes the topic to mention the existence of left-of-centre broadsheets in the UK (rather than addressing the claim that Andrew Marr is where he is due to survivorship bias).",
"Fucking classy, British dude. Salute.",
"Balboa Park, as well. \n\nFun to check out on Google Earth btw :P",
"As a San Diegan, I wish him \"fair winds and following seas\" from the mighty cervix of Whale's Vagina.",
"I was expecting it.... Dammit",
"Doesn't he look like [Simo Haya](https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/simohayha.jpg)?",
"I did watch the original too. He didn't change the topic, he transitioned from it as directly as could be in that situation. Chomsky proposed he was unconsciously self-censoring and so Marr raised the point of general discourse in the media world and the conversation continued to that in general.",
"Pretty sure it's *tee-hwanna*",
"Zoo",
"And a Beatles song, and countless off hand references in tv shows as varied as Law & Order and What we do in the Shadows. Tucson always seems to crop up randomly in pop culture.",
"It's known for being unspellable by people outside of AZ.",
"Sorry, but that is a change in topic. You might argue that it is an *appropriate* change in topic (and I would agree, I think he handled that accusation well because there isn't much he could have sensibly said in response to that accusation on the spot) but it is nevertheless _not_ a response or retort to the accusation. He moved the interview forward.",
"Ahahahaha. I love it.",
"I know, the car should be pronounced like the city. That's what the Hangul pronunciation is.",
"Lol sure OK",
"The ghost of Stonewall Jackson played by John C Reilly lol",
"Poop mouth",
"calm down - you are also known as a republican center, too",
"Rhymes with marijuana",
"Fucking disgusting.",
"welcome to America!",
"Chomsky is an intelligent dude, or was. But I think time and age and maybe a developed sense of arrogance seems to have changed the guy, where now all he's interested in is obnoxiously dying on stupid hills while misrepresenting or outright lying about information and sources.\n\nAmerica, bad. Anything that opposes America, good. That's nearly the full extent his brand these days. He's 90 years old and one of the most eminent modern leftist scholars, but he speaks like a 20 year old DSA tweetmonger.",
"Beatles song, too",
"Can you elaborate?",
"And eating bats. They're the chicken of the cave.",
"**FUCKING** thing **SUCKS**",
"Always was stupid, just a piss poor philosopher failing to be relevant.",
"Similar story. I was stationed with in the whale's vagina and ran into Tony and his son Riley a few times. Awesome people!",
"They cannot, because the BBC is impartial. This is proven by both sides of the spectrum incessantly calling it bias towards the other side.",
"I’ve got Yelper Special on one of my playlists and have to crank the volume when it comes on.",
"Ah I mean that would have been tame for Alistair Campbell and the rest of the cast didn't swear so much. So I'd believe it.",
"Andrew Marr retired?! Shit...",
"This is the guy who got shamed by Noam Chomsky for Manufacturing Consent.",
"The way you've made the point sounds a bit \"conspiracy\" but you're definitely not wrong in the big picture. Chomsky even said it to his face lol. He was indeed an arse licking twat. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/lLcpcytUnWU",
"Don't forget being unable to keep a football team!\n\nAlso one of the most beautiful beaches in the world... oh wait, that's Coronado.",
"FUCKING THING SUCKS",
"Why on Earth are you being downvoted?",
"That interesting, reminds me of growing with a pal who's dad was English. To me and a lot of us sounded English. Growing up It eventually dawned on me he's very well spoken and the rest of us are just from Greenock.",
"His disgusting anti-war/anti-Americanism, if I want to bomb Hanoi and Baghdad it's my right as an American!",
"Tea-wanna?",
"And famed human bar tender, Jackie Daytona.",
"*Jackin' it for the LOOOOOOooooooooord!*",
"There’s an Anchorman 2?",
"Did a google. Indeed it's Santa Monica.",
"What did you find stupid about 'Manufacturing Consent\" and why do you think a book regarding media manipulating the masses in order to create a consent for military action or economic sanctions irrelevant considering it was published in 1988?",
"North county starts Encinitas-ish, but I hear it mostly used for Escondido, Oceanside, and San Marcos",
"Exactly what I was thinking.",
"Here is Marr being told by Chomsky he's biased:\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcpcytUnWU",
"If I were to give you some money out of my wallet, would that ease the pain?",
"\".. and my little nipples went to France.\"",
"And ComicCon",
"He practically invented modern linguistics",
"Don't you guys put french fries in burritos too?",
"*laughs* Trying to sound more funny by swearing and all the simpletons upvote it like it's the most humorous thing they have ever experienced. Pathetic.",
"Who the hell is Steve Jobs?",
"Thanks for this. Had to scroll a bit, but as someone who appreciates good journalists/ broadcasters I was curious about how he was. Your comment says a lot while saying very little. :)",
"Three syllables like marijuana though, so like: tee-ah-wanna.",
"I honestly think the movie is pretty solid, but the first 20 minutes are really bad and set a bad tone for the movie. Plus it’s like half an hour too long. Still thought it was better than most comedy sequels, though.",
"He was a brilliant linguist and philosopher. \n\nHe's a shit historian and political scientist.",
"So there is this keyboard cat....",
"His historical revisionism to apologize for leftist genocide. You have to be a political hack to compare Indonesia invading East Timor on scale with Pol Pot killing 25% of an entire nation",
"I think Chomsky’s a chump before he even got into politics because I got gripes with generative grammar.",
"Hitler wasn't in power, he was just a political activist at the time.",
"Lol youths 😒",
"The Human Torch was denied a bank loan.",
"Also live in northern SD county. I once took my mom to breakfast and Tony Hawk and his mom were at the table across from us. Then I heard someone behind me ask me for $3.50...",
"I am 34 years old, grew up in Omaha Nebraska. I've always know it was \"two-san\". How are Arizonans in the dark about this??",
"One side is lying",
"Fun fact, my grandfather trained him as a journalist!\n\n^He ^also ^trained ^Michael ^Gove ^but ^we ^don't ^talk ^about ^that...",
"Why the downvotes?",
"I knew he wouldn’t, but I was really hoping he’d say, “Go Fuck Yourself, San Diego”",
"https://twitter.com/catalystnb/status/1351208547086958594?s=21",
"Putting aside how great and catchy the song is, the detail of the green screen outline on the mayor just absolutely sells it for me.",
"For what it's worth, I had the best wings of my life in a random sports bar on, or just off, the Gaslamp. Fuck me if I can remember the name though.",
"That and when people think about California with the great weather and beaches they really mean San Diego.",
"That isn't true. While you *could* argue that the BBC are just pro-government; they absolutely lean Tory in their general political output. You can find countless examples of Laura Kuenssberg basically fangirling over Boris for example. And when it comes to Unionism the BBC is incredibly biased towards it.\n\nRight-wingers say the BBC has a Left-wing bias because their entertainment output generally leans quite Left-wing though. Personally I don't think some progressive TV shows outweighs their news and political output basically being a Tory mouthpiece.",
"I was sooooo hoping for this. We should add a NSFW tag to this just to fuck with people thinking he's about to say it.",
"As a San Diegan, we'll try. If he ever visits, California burritos and .394s on me.",
"the what",
"You read that correctly....",
"Well done, such integrity and class well done. But I honestly secretly hoped that he just start telling everyone it’s all a lie…….and then he gets dragged off by people in black suites and sunglasses.",
"Yes but an appropriate change in topic when a line of accusation is clearly a dead-end isn't stumping.\n\nThe idea of \"stumping\" implies the line of accusation has beaten him. But the context doesn't seem to imply that. It just seems like Chomsky put a line of accusation that has no point in responding to directly in the moment.",
"Probably my favourite thing about that interview is at one point Marr asks about Shapiro videos titled things like \"Shapiro DESTROYS X\". He asks about a specific one and if Shapiro thinks it's acceptable to create that sort of discourse. Shapiro angrily asks if it's him that makes those videos, suggesting it's unfair to ask about something he didn't make, and Marr, not knowing if Shapiro made that video and seeing that as a fair answer, moves on to the next question.\n\nExcept it turns out Shapiro *did* create that video, or at least someone on his payroll did, and the video in question *is on Shapiro's own YouTube channel*. So Shapiro was in the wrong and should have answered the question.",
"Is this that guy that got owned by chomsky",
"Just curious, what don’t you like about it? It’s in my queue, but I haven’t gotten around to it yet",
"21 years on TV and he can't tie a tie correct",
"...go watch Anchorman. Thank us later.",
"I feel like we are all slightly to very disappointed for the same reason.",
"Nice tie but somebody needs to help him with it",
"Its a shame that his staff will be buried with him even if they are still alive after this.",
"From SD! WOOHOO wasn't expecting that tho lol",
"Because it's just a 40sec video and this person had to ask what's in it",
"Fair",
"Do you really love lamp, Brick?",
"Would have been too perfect to go with, “go fuck yourself San Diego.”",
"So when he says “there’s no words on it”, he means that because he’s never heard the phrase “play us out” before, it’s not real or something?",
"This is the bit where we point out that you missed the several many comments ahead of yours that make it clear that he’s recovering from a very serious stroke and has made incredible progress. \n\nIt’s not a “British” thing. It’s a brain injury thing.",
"He was only 4 years into his career when Anchorman came out.",
"[“You come out with stink like that! Your poop mouth! You’re outta poop outta your mouth!….](https://youtu.be/99FNSwPkZqs)\n\n(I listened 10 times and that’s the best I can make out what Garth says.)",
"The right calls the BBC left wing because gay people are on Doctor Who. The left calls it right wing because it's _aggressively_ Pro-unionist and on several occasions political editors like Laura Keunssberg Have been blatantly pro Tory. And that's without even mentioning the revolving door between Conservative politicians and high level BBC staff.",
"He’s called Andrew Marr. And fair play to you for holding your hands up. That takes guts.",
"You mean Anthony Hawk? No, I don't think those are the same people",
"Uh, look over here, it's a Conway Twitty chase!",
"My Ophthalmologist has pictures of himself skating with Tony Hawk when they were just kids. They're still friends.",
"asdfasdf",
"I prefer whales vagina.",
"Something clever about that line is that up until that point in the movie, they studiously avoid any profanity, which gives the \"fuck\" a stronger auditory punch.",
"Chomsky says something so it must be right. The video cuts off Andrew Marr’s response too.",
"It's been so long since I watched it I couldn't even remember the actual catch phrase was \"Stay classy San Diego.\" Was sitting here like \"Surely he doesn't say go fuck yourself?\"",
"Read articles published by The Telegraph, read articles published by The Guardian, then watch Channel 4 News and GB News - it quickly becomes clear that the BBC’s written and broadcast news is landing close to a pH level of 7 in terms of neutrality. I think another commenter said it well that the accusation best levelled at the BBC is that it’s pro-government. They are sometimes prone to explaining why policy is good rather than just reporting on it, but this is regardless of who is in power.",
"Linguistics, maybe as that was his early career. Philosophy, not at all",
"I dont know why people gave anchorman 2 so much shit. It was really pretty on the nose how news had turned into bullshit clickbait and it was by all standards a pretty decent sequel for a comedy movie.",
"he literally authored \"manufacturing consent\".",
"This is literally what I was looking for. Now I am satisfied.",
"FUcK I'm Old",
"Not just a bartender. He got that volleyball team to State.",
"I was deeply disappointed when he didn’t say it.",
"nah, he just turns progressively more beet red and then moves on to the next topic",
"Exactly incorrect",
"I was waiting for that too...",
"california burritos, carne asada fries",
"I would go with \"Spider-Man's real identity is Peter Parker\"\n\nEDIT: Spoiler alert, yeah.",
"Yeah fair. But he's been very blatantly pandering to the Tories in recent years, so much so it was actually news when he eventually had to slate them recently. \n\nNever said Chomsky is infallible either.",
"Damn, Hugh Edwards hasn't aged in 20 years",
"Should have done a kickflip and he would have gave you a skateboard.",
"A political activist before he abused it to form a tyranny underneath everyone's noses... hmm hope that doesn't happen again...",
" - San Diegan",
"Missed opportunity to say Go Fuck yourself san diego",
"This is Fallbrook erasure and I won’t stand for it",
"Would have been so much better because Ron Burgundy became unemployed after saying that too",
"Huh, who knew there was a San Diego UK",
"Morning Show wants to be Network, but it also wants you to empathize and sympathize with its characters. \n\nThese are incompatible goals, and the show ends up completely muddling whatever theme(s) it’s trying to evoke.",
"Anchorman was a comedy but Anchorman 2 was a satire",
"The Indonesian invasion of East Timor is estimated to have killed 100-300k people, out of a population of 650k, or 15-45% of the population of the entire nation. So, yeah.",
"Don't worry, give it a decade and you'll be just \"another part of LA, the all consuming beast\"",
"Wrong counts buddy",
"Source me up, I'm all ears.",
"If you saw Anchorman 2 first, then the original movie is disappointing\n\nEdit: downvoting this doesn’t make it untrue.\nIf you see the second one first, then the original is just reusing the same jokes",
"Cum, take a load off.",
"I love BBC",
"I respect your opinion.\n\nIt's wrong, but I respect you for having it.",
"This is fucking awesome!!!!",
"Oh man. I miss when ESPN used to be a fun channel. Now it's just hot takes and the same coverage of like 4 athletes now.",
"I haven't watched Family Guy in years. Has it slipped off that much? Now that I think of it, the only Family Guy references or memes are ones from a while back.",
"You're making shit up now. His skin tone is literally the same at the end of the video as it is in the beginning. You know this because as soon as the video finishes it goes back to the first frame and there's virtually no difference.",
"Yeah I honestly kinda felt bad for the guy, mostly because undiagnosed/untreated mental health issues are absolutely terrifying",
"Cuuute",
"You will eat cat poop.. for the way *you talk about my city!*",
"*\"...and another ones gone and another ones gone...another one ...\"*",
"Well it was nearly his birthday",
"Kony was a massive scam. The company was pocketing tons of donation money from school children for what was essentially an imaginary Kickstarter for a boogie man that was long gone.\n\n\nThen the shitheads had to nerve to push the narrative that their head scammer was \"overwhelmed with stress\" and ask for even more money from school children.",
"The BBC edited footage on multiple occassions to make the PM look better, they've put out puff pieces that might as well have said \"We love you Boris\", they've taken Scotland's First Minister off the air because her effective Covid plan was making the UK government look bad and only allowed her back on the air when they give equal time to her opposition, Newsnight did a transparently anti-immigration piece that only featured a spokes-women from the Border Guard union and 2 government ministers (effectively it was just parroting the government line on immigration), and when they spent *weeks* running the very important story that Nichola Sturgeon *may have* misled the Scottish Parliament because she *forgot the date of an informal meeting* they buried the story of Boris Johnson being found guilty in court of actually misleading the UK Parliament (It was only on the front page for an hour, underneath something about the Pope and quickly pushed off by \"Ghost hunters fined for breaching Lockdown\"). \n\nOff the top of my head those are the pretty big examples of the BBC being biased for the government. Over the past couple weeks they've been a bit better about Boris, but that's because he's on his way out. They'll probably suck up to the next government because they still want to be funded.",
"Big plot point was how Ron discovered it was okay to just make shit up and call it news, as long as it was entertaining or incited some kind of panic. All the news channels were chasing ratings.",
"And that’s the way it was…",
"I bet you have a sick vest",
"Hasn't Family Guy had a long reputation for taking a funny gag and then milking it until its a dead dry husk of what it had been?",
"I think he has mental problems, man.",
"Do you know what it's like to drink a half a bottle of ketchup, thinking it was a bottle of Châteauneuf-du-Pape? I even decanted it.",
"I think we’re mostly known now for the hometown of Big Ed from 90 day fiancé… kidding, kinda…",
"kinda thought he’d go the other way",
"damn, im in del mar and i thought north county started around carmel valley.\n\nedit: okay check out this map, i wasnt too far off https://ottomaps.com/products/san-diego-county-map-tourist",
"I remember an rv with cruise control and Will Ferrell goes blind in an ice dancing competition and he goes to live in a lighthouse and that's about it.\n\nEdit: also Bill Curtis is a living legend and he is the regular announcer on NPRs News quiz \"wait wait don't tell me\"",
"\"I'm gonna jack it where the sun always shines!\"\n\n\"He's gonna jack it!\"\n\n\"Been spreading the word, now need to ease my mind!\"\n\n\"Jackin' it hooooo..\"\n\n\"Been plantin' apple seeds and while the apples grow..\"\n\n\"I'm gonna go out jackin' it in.. San Diego!\"",
"Who are you even referring to?",
"The outtakes are good",
"like nearly every comedy sequel, like half the movie was just callbacks reminding you how good the first one was.",
"As a San diegan who lives abroad and likes standup comedy, we were first well known in the US for the weather. Every comedian has a bit about how the easiest job is being the weatherperson in San Diego - little do they know we are such shit drivers that a light misting of rain causes hundreds of accidents, a small windstorm knocks over thousands of trees, and if it snowed lower than Alpine, they would need the national guard to rescue the millions of cars smashed into oblivion along every road - so even in SD it is a difficult Job! \n\nPS:\n- zoo \n- Torrey Pines Golf Course\n- The US Navy",
"I've worked in local TV news for a few years and I've found most people I've worked with avoid those films & tv shows since they are usually fairly inaccurate/exaggerated and can feel like you're not realty getting away from work. Also many are just starting in the industry and are in their early 20s and Anchorman is kind of an older movie they didn't really grow up with (which, yes, is insane).",
"You must be a zoomer.\n\nA few things off the top of my head:\n\nDude stole a TANK and went on a rampage.\n\nDude stole a city bus and took it on a high speed chase.\n\nHeaven's Gate suicide cult.\n\nSan Ysidro McDonalds Massacre\n\nPSA flight 182 crash (ground footage even appears in the first Faces of Death)\n\nComic-Con\n\nTop Gun\n\nStephanie Crowe murder\n\nAttack of the Killer Tomatoes\n\nThe San Diego Chicken\n\nSan Diego Zoo and Wild Animal Park\n\nBalboa Park is generally well known\n\nTony Gwynn\n\nHigh School Vice Principal checking for thongs at a dance.",
"No, it's still here. It's just in standby mode because of Covid. I think they still held some kind of event online this year but no in-person attendance.",
"I was in college during that whole thing. I remember seeing everyone wearing the shirts and holding rallies and speeches to help. Then suddenly, it stopped. It’s like everyone agreed they were fooled and it was best not to talk about it.",
"Ah yes, you remember when he gave the conservatives a free ride whilst endlessly grilling Corbyn?\n\nHe was such a right wing dick head who did not provide unbiased reporting. No wonder at his career move",
"Both Andrews played a large hand in this government being elected. They were hardly unbiased",
"I love that scene. I'm glad he's Jerry. He's a great voice actor.",
"Amazing that Andrew kept going after a stroke that paralysed his left side.",
"Was it the coke?",
"Shoulder as well is substantially slouched",
"They used the money they received for a bunch of projects in Africa.\n\nAt least according to the internet historian reporting.",
"The whale’s bagina. He was stationed there.",
"If I met this guy, oblivious to his identity (like I was 1 minute ago) - I would uncontrollably blurt out - while interrupting him no doubt - \"Holy shit dude you sound like the BBC if it was a person\"\n\nI guess if anything that's a compliment. But at worst its neutral.\n\nI guess the real takeaway here is that I have an issue with blurting things out. This comment exhibit A",
"That's not what you said lol",
"That's pretty interesting to have clarified. Worth pointing out I considered it the most quotable movie of all time until Hot Fuzz came out. And now they're roughly equal first. Because if you're not first you're last?",
"I have no idea what your original comment was, but you are 100% right on this one. His job was to hold politicians feet to the fire and make them accountable. This IS the antithesis of socialising with them. What the fuck is wrong with people?",
"Thats not true. I know it as \"The other City in Arizona, the one that isnt Phoenix\"",
"Even if it was all prearranged with a bleep and a censored bar. I would have respected wanting to go out on a laugh.",
"For real. What's he meant to do? Read the whole of it to him in the interview.",
"The BBC was founded with a charter in which it is meant to remain politically neutral however the BBC has also faced fundamental changes in its structuring and funding over the decades of its existence and in particular the last 10 years have seen sweeping changes at the top of the organization which have impacted its ability to remain impartial.\n\nIn 2017 the BBC Trust was disbanded and replaced with the BBC Board of Governors who were hand picked by the then Tory government.\n\nThe two most senior members of the board have links to the Tory party.\n\nChairman: Richard Sharp a former banker for JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, was advisor to current Tory PM Boris Johnson and current Tory Chancellor Rishi Sunak, as well as being a Tory party donor to the tune of £400,000. \n\nDirector General: Tim Davie, used to work for Procter and Gamble, PepsiCo and then got into politics as a Tory Councillor in Hammersmith as the deputy chairman of the Fulham Tory party.\n\nThen among the members for the 4 home nations we have\n\nMember for England: Robbie Gibb, Political advisor for then Tory Shadow Chancellor Francis Maude, then lead Michael Portillo's campaign to be Tory party leader, in 2017 became Director of communications for 10 Downing Street. Oh and his brother is Nick Gibb who was a Tory MP from 2010 to 2019. \n\nShould be noted that no other member of the board has any direct political ties to any other party.\n\nYou can point to left wingers and right wingers screaming about the BBC being biased but that doesn't prove anything, I can show you left wingers and right wingers saying that Fox News is biased against them.... are you about to suggest that Fox is neutral too?\n\nAnd it's not even just a case of left or right wing bias, anybody familiar with the Scottish independence movement would probably take umbrage with the suggestion that the BBC isn't biased when investigations into their handling of the 2014 referendum coverage concluded that senior BBC executives thought that they had a \"Duty to protect the Union\" which resulted in them airing a propaganda campaign that sought to undermine the independence movement by airing more positive union stories and more negative independence stories as well as inviting multiple prominent pro union guests onto all of their shows while limiting the amount of prominent pro independence guests.\n\nOr Question Time in general which has been caught countless times planting Tory affiliated members into their audience and then \"randomly\" finding them over and over again week by week to ask them their opinions and get loaded questions from them.\n\nThe right wing scream that the BBC is biased because Have I got News for You calls Boris a fucking clown from time to time, the Left wing calls the BBC biased because it's literally run by right wingers.",
"I often look at Reddit whilst in bed with my wife asleep next to me, so can't watch videos with sound. It's nice to have a bit of an explanation in the comments explaining what happened.",
"This is absolutely not true, the people running it are Tories. They frequently ignore stories or even edit footage to make the government look less incompetent or corrupt. They even photoshopped pictures of Jeremy Corbyn and put a hammer and sickle behind him to make him look like some sort of communist madman. How on earth is that impartial? \n\nPlus, I live in Scotland and they don't even try to hide their pro-tory, anti-SNP bias. They're constantly allowing Tories to come on and say whatever they like, they constantly deliberately misrepresent things the Scottish government is doing, and they constantly downplay Scotland's successes and exaggerate its failures to make it look like we need England and the Tories. It's textbook gaslighting.\n\nThe BBC is a Tory propaganda machine.",
"Tijuana is a shortening of the original 'Tia Juana', so pronouncing it tee-uh-wanna is accidentally using an outdated name, and people will definitely know what you mean",
"Cool story, still incorrect.",
"Wow. There is a *lot* of love for this guy here in the comments.\n\nAs an Irish person I'd have seen this guy more than most Americans but less than most English people. Based on that I will give you my thoughts.\n\nMy thoughts: he was a typical right-wing journalist of the the English establishment. \\[shrugs\\]",
"https://youtu.be/ob0dI05Xz8s\n\nnearly 7 minutes of Tony Hawk not being recognized, except for, like, twice.",
"I didn't know where to put my first ever comment on reddit until today.. this basically called it!",
"I never understood why Brillo found that embarrassing. It’s probably the closest I’ve ever come to thinking he’s alright.",
"Dr Seuss also moved there after WWII.",
"\"Did you threaten to overrule him?\" \n\n\nWould've been better!",
"Go fuck yourself Andrew marr",
"Holy shit, that's Chris Parnell? That look makes him come off as a completely different person",
"Shut up Jerry.",
"I only know Marr from [THIS](https://youtu.be/lLcpcytUnWU) clip of him being stumped into the shadow realm.",
"Inside SoCal is up there though:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBDqeWWkBTI\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLpMqo8LnIQ\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SklgKqWgnmk",
"Awkward sign off",
"> They even photoshopped pictures of Jeremy Corbyn and put a hammer and sickle behind him to make him look like some sort of communist madman. How on earth is that impartial? \n\nYou is not true. The actual situation is as per this article: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-did-the-bbc-edit-a-photo-of-jeremy-corbyn-to-make-him-look-close-to-russia",
"Garth, if I were to give you some money would that ease the pain?",
"Age does turn brain to mush eventually.",
"Pales in comparison to that Fred Dinenage guy over at Meridian. You'll crap a brick at the sight of how long he's been on TV.",
"Yup we are considered old now.",
"Stephen Sackur",
"It was a major news story when it happened",
"Every industry probably has their own Anchorman. I worked as an air traffic controller and we would continuously reference the ridiculous Pushing Tin.",
"It does annoy me how announcing an anchors final show is always left to the last few minutes of the broadcast.",
"The Andrew Marr show started in 2001, a year after he became Political Editor of the BBC. He had a 20 year career as a print journalist and editor before he joined the BBC.",
"It appears to match the logo and colour scheme of the show. I wouldn’t be entirely surprised it it was made for him.",
"Brick killed a guy.",
"At least you guys have the best heavy psych-rock scene!",
"If you like Andrew Marr, do look up too much about him.",
"That isn't proof of impartiality at all. Also neutrality is not impartiality. The BBC is not, nor has it ever been impartial. It's deeply biased towards established thinking, and received wisdom.",
"Nothing but nothing beats the gold recycling sequence. But that had no lyrics.",
"Indeed or at the very least a Tits McGhee.",
"The first Rancho *was* named “Tia Juana” in Spanish although many people think that was inspired by the native language word “Tiwan” (“by the sea”). I don’t think there’s a definite answer, and noone has actually identified any woman named Jane from back then. (As a kid in Alto California I always assumed the city was named Tiajuana after Juana La Loca, but apparently I was wrong on both counts.)",
"Adam Boulton off sky news had his last day last week. Got to say he signed off better.",
"I would argue his job is a bit of both. Getting closer means they're more comfortable speaking around you. As long as you maintain your integrity in reporting then I'd see it as a good thing.",
"Brick killed a guy with a trident.",
"I fully expected him to say that.",
"A better example would be them creating a video showing the Chancellor of the Exchequer *as a literal superman* handing out money to the needy.",
"All the news is a comedy. Nice dude",
"Considering the Tories have been the only ones in power for more than a decade I'm not sure it's possible to differentiate between pro government and pro Tory at the moment.",
"I'm not familiar with this newscaster.",
"Politicians do not need to be comfortable to be questioned by the media.",
"Still Andrew Marr’s [best interview](https://youtu.be/pV85306K64w)",
"Nice account age",
"Discovered by the Germans in 1806.",
"No he wasn't, his career started in 1981...",
"Go fuck yourself, San Diego.*",
"Of course they don't, but if you don't see the benefit in them dropping their guard I don't know what to tell ya.",
"The wonderful thing about this video is how much the producers of South Park get right. There is an appearance by Bolt Man and Father Joe Carroll (local celebrities) and the street signs and other signage are accurate. They must have had a few people on staff who are either from San Diego, or have been to San Diego many times to get such small details right. \n\nAnd BTW, I always thought the show title was weird because there is a neighborhood in San Diego called South Park. And it's actually a lovely neighborhood that any of you would be lucky enough to live in (I live in Golden Hill, just a couple blocks away from South Park).",
"We'll take it....",
"And that’s the way the cookie crumbles…",
"Have you tried earbuds?",
"As a proud San Diegan, I wish this song was more popular:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/ReYYl6LUPPY",
"lol I wondered the same. Man who did blatant propaganda for the BBC for decades does cutesy little retirement thing so all is forgiven",
"Your version of reality is a fantasy I'm afraid. The chummy relationship between journalists and politicians leads to, at best self censorship, or at worst hagiography. Not so much brilliant gotcha moments like you describe. If you don't believe me, watch the piece that the (until very recently) BBC political editor did on Boris Johnson. Laura Kuenssberg was a Tory insider, and it was to all of our detriment. \n\nYou don't need to get their guard down. You need to catch them in a lie and not allow it to be forgotten. This approach doesn't lead to many invites to social events for journalists.",
"I'm all ears. I'm Andrew fucking Marr, here.",
"Me also.",
"It’s also known for being named after a whale’s vagina. To this day all my friends from high school and college and I refer to SD as “the Whale’s”.",
"Somebody in the letters section always finds a brilliant way to connect recent news to an oblique request for this photo, they fucking get me every time",
"Currently work in local news, we don't talk about anchorman 2",
"San Diego's cool, I'd consider retiring there",
"That's because the journalistic integrity is gone. I'm not saying that it does currently exist, I'm saying that that *could* be a benefit. Or bedding one devil to get dirt on others. Of course it does all hinge on integrity which we both know is something in short supply in journalism these days.",
"Yeah sometimes I do, but sometimes they're not near me and I can't be bothered to go get them.",
"We all watched too see if it was this quote or that quote.",
"I was so disappointed. Should have come to the comments 1st.",
"I’m tits mcgee",
"The incentives don't exist to allow this to happen. A journalist that finds themselves on the inside of one of the institutions they report on wouldn't dare jeopardise the priveledge and access that it grants them. We have to normalize a different sort of dynamic that sees these two parties as at odds with one another. Seeing a journalist rub shoulders with politicians should be perceived as the huge conflict of interest it is.",
"Indigo traveler?",
"Because the government never needs the Sunday TV soapbox, when they can just call a press conference, and they're smart enough to not sit in front of him if they can avoid it.",
"Used to be a gateway into the Navy. It was better than Orlando or Chicago.",
"> grillings\n\nToo generous.",
"yet I can also find you videos of both of them absolutely ripping Boris to shreds.\n\nWhen both sides of the aisle think a person or a medium is biased against them, they're probably being very fair.\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZATuljaRxs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZATuljaRxs)\n\nYeah it's clear Andrew and Boris were in cahoots to get him elected... sure.",
"I think you'll find that in the video you linked, Boris isn't even there.",
"Every time I hear Ben Shapiro speak I at first think I'm listening to a parody of Ben Shapiro.",
"I was waiting for an \"I'm Andrew Marr?\"",
"... I don't think you read what I wrote, my comment entirely agrees with yours?",
"Andrew Marr can go fuck himself!",
"Sorry, I misinterpreted. Because your comment was in direct response to mine when I said he wasn't stumped, I thought you saying he didn't respond was *also* saying he was stumped.\n\nSo, a miscommunication there.",
"Blair left Scotland when he was 2 I think.",
"We’re keeping’ it classy here in the whales vagina we call, “San Diego”.",
"But,\n\nwhat about all the credits? I wanted to see the credits!",
"Good riddance to Andrew Marr. A reporter now out of touch with the times and frequently guilty of letting Tory ministers off the hook in interviews.",
"You're not wrong, but it was Neil who interviewed him, not Marr",
"Torie stooge. He’ll be on LBC before you know it!",
"He's moving to LBC according to the guardian.",
"This is Andrew Marr. He's no Jeremy Paxman but a great British political commentator and interviewer.",
"Imagine trying to do a good thing in your mind and then sleeper cells of mental health issues are like \"Oh shit, we late.\"",
"Watching Marr go for the throats of various politicians through the years has been greatly satisfying. Hope he has a lovely retirement!",
"Tory cunt",
"Or in 2019 when Boris fucked up by laying a wreath upside down at the Cenotaph for remembrance Sunday.\n\nThe BBC duly ignored the story and went so far as to use archive footage from 2016 when he wasn't even PM and played that while saying he took part in the ceremony without any mention of the fuck up.\n\nWhen they got called out, the editor of BBC Breakfast tried to dismiss it as a simple production error caused by poor sleep deprived production crews working late at night and purely accidentally using archive footage.\n\nWhich didn't hold any water when an ex-BBC editor chimed in and said that archive footage isn't something that is just lying around, the production staff would have had to specifically go and find the archive footage to include it when they had no reason to be even near archive footage all the while ignoring the controversy that every other media source in the UK had managed to report on.\n\nOr earlier this year when the story broke about Boris having a 4 year affair with Jennifer Arcuri while he was Mayor of London and who then got handed £100k in tax payers money in the way of government funding as well as being wined and dined as his guest on \"trade missions\" and the BBC barely covered it. \n\n2019 Again when the BBC did a 3 part documentary inside the Foreign office and while filming managed to get a clip of then Foreign Secratary Boris Johnson insulting his French counter parts over brexit. The government demanded that the BBC remove the footage from the documentary and they complied because reporting the truth would \"hurt the UK's image\".",
"https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/andrew-marr-joins-lbc/ wasn't sure if you didn't know lol 😆",
"I was hoping he’d tweak it and go with ‘London’ but he played it safe!!",
"After hearing such dazzling debating techniques such as:\n\n- ignoring the question\n\n- changing the subject\n\nand\n\n- speaking over the host\n\nI think I'm going to avoid ever listening to him again.",
"“Go fuck yourself San Diego”",
"Jesus fucking christ. Why would you do that to me?",
"Haha! Thanks! It’s going to be interesting to see what he comes out with!",
"Problem is they send an MP out on the news rounds everyday so if they're given a comparatively easy ride on tough subjects it gives the impression all is ok",
"yes minister also seems to capture the civil service.",
"I watched it twice, because the second time I wasn’t sure if I’d ever gotten around to watching the first time. And it was only really late that I finally remembered that I had.\n\nBut just watched that fight scene clip then and it’s genuinely like I’ve never seen it before. It’s really weird how little this movie sticks in my mind. I’m just a complete blank from it. It’s so forgettable, in a really weird way that I can’t quite explain.",
"\"Anchorman\" is good think about quotes",
"You know what's fucked up? The premise of the cartoon Ben 10 is basically aliens giving kids a weapon that turn them into soldiers to fight their war for them.",
"Does he think he's cool or something?",
"On April 18th, 1930, 118 people died in a church fire in Romania, Indian revolutionaries raided a couple police armouries and sparked a brief uprising in what was a British colony at the time, and the Philippines was hit by a typhoon.",
"Not sure why you're being so heavily downvoted, that's pretty spot on.",
"I thought he was going to say “Go fuck yourself, San Diego”",
"Big if true, given he was a raving commie at University. I doubt he's swung all the way to the other side since then.",
"It’s crazy how many actors they got to cameo in Anchorman and also gave memorable roles like Fred armisen, jack black, Luke Wilson, Tim robbins, I’m sure I’m missing others.",
"Seems to me to be wide of the mark, given Marr's political background. Yes, the BBC has its own culture which can censor certain opinions just by virtue of who gets to work there, but Marr was a legit communist before he was a journalist. If the BBC's censorship in that vein were in any way thorough, he would never have been given a job.",
"Cheated on his wife too, not exactly of upstanding moral character.",
"LBC \"non-partisan\" \n\nOkay, I think this discussion is done",
"His voice is so distinctive, though. I'd recognize Cyril Figgis anywhere.",
"LBC hires plenty of left wing personalities as well as the right wing ones that people go on about, not sure what you're on. OP's New Statesman announcement is proof enough imo, that should tell you his political leanings from not even reading any content from him yet. He'll likely be like any other ex-BBC person on LBC and not be outrageously left or right.",
"Going in with low expectations certainly helped. But I was pleasantly surprised that they managed to write a half decent story for it that made sense. That said, I wouldn't be able to quote any lines from it off the top of my head",
"r/The10thDentist",
"Part of the brilliance of that program was that it was impossible to point to any one thing it did and say “that could never happen in British politics”",
"Dude, I think we all know Spider-Man is Peter Parker by now.",
"[This Michael Gove?](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/12/1331571750348/Stephen-Collins-17-March--001.jpg?width=1920&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=31694840da7bb4e52a2f05f0d846e2b6)",
"I think asking for an example of \"youth outreach\" comes up quite often.",
"Shapiro accused a hardcore right wing conservative of being on the left simply because he was getting basic pushback on his views, something he's not used to dealing with.\n\nHe also literally said \"I'm popular and no one's ever heard of you\", which is playground level stuff that really exposes what an utter dork this guy is.",
"now that’s classy",
"He’s only been an anchorman for 21 years - that one’s before his time.",
"San Diego is the 8th most populous city in the United States.\n\nIt's not a little backwater town from a Hallmark Channel movie that no one's ever heard of, and Rachel Leigh Cook goes back there for christmas and reconnects with her old flame with Chad Michael Murray.",
"Definitely in my top list of American cities that I'd like to move to before it's night night forever.",
"I thought he was going to tell me to go fuck myself",
"Wow thanks for that",
"Yeah exactly he thinks it's just random words",
"Damn brain, stop trying to make me think he will say \"Go f\\*ck yourself, London\"!",
"# AAAH!",
"# AAAH!",
"Go fuck yourself San Diego",
"Great Odin's Raven.....😲",
"The common theme in the replies is that the BBC is too pro-Union. I’m guessing maybe that it got crossposted somewhere where that might a widely held belief haha",
"Based.",
"You know what they say about bats. They’re the chickens of the cave",
"Even the fight scene?",
"Disappointed he didn't say \"Go fuck yourself, San Diego.\" Dude's retiring. He can afford to go out on a high note.",
"Turns out, you can't smoke crack on live television.",
"That's the strange semi-aquatic looking life form!\n\nHis first lesson was *the alphabet*",
"Ngl, I was really hoping for a \"Go fuck yourself, San Diego.\"",
"You forgot the zoo!",
"I thought and was hoping he would say “Go fuck yourself Britain”",
"The whole chef aid album is really good",
"I have always had so many questions about that. How the fuck is “play us out” a phrase that’s unfamiliar to you *when you work as a TV host?!* The guy didn’t even explain it to him because…why would he, it makes perfect sense to everyone even if you aren’t Bill O’Reilly.\n\nThen he says we’ll do it live? You mean instead of pre-recorded? Why would that be *easier* than working with a faulty teleprompter? It just makes you more prone to mistakes right?\n\nAnd then, one second afterwards, they just do it again anyway for some reason and he nails it. So, what was even the point of that temper tantrum then?",
"SD is amazing. Definitely the chillest of the 3 major coastal cities in Cali. No overworked Silicon Valley engineers or desperate famewhores. Also arguably best climate of the 3. Surprisingly less hot than LA.",
"That is just brilliant. Seems like a cool dude",
"YouTube, why on earth do you think I'd want to watch Tucker Carlson after this video?",
"Very insightful interview, too. He talks about the way in which he got his stroke, which is something you don’t often hear. And in incredibly good spirits about it.",
"Surfing?\n\nThat’s all I know about San Diego at least.",
"I'm so bummed, I lived there for 4 years and never knowingly ran into Tony Hawk.\n\nSolid chance I ran into him without noticing though, honestly.",
"[Peak television.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyZ5aW76c)",
"That's Kirsten Dunst!",
"The blooper reel is very funny.",
"Had to go back and watch it again, but it totally is. I had no idea lol.",
"you are confused easily\n\nwatch the *full video* -- which is what you asked about -- at a reasonable fidelity \n\nalso, imagine slobbering over andrew marr's knob, of all the useless, porridge brained, talentless dickheads on the planet",
"What about the conglomerates buying all the local stations like Sinclair and nexstar? What's your take on them.\n\nEdit: I'm dumb and didn't read the end of it somehow.",
"\"Well, that's tomorrow's breakfast news sorted.\"",
"Andrew Marr is centre left in his political views, Andrew Neil is Right Wing, but I would say they were rather impartial at the BBC.",
"My dad was a news journalist from the late 70s onward. We watched anchorman 2 and he had to pause it at several points because \"I am watching a fucking documentary.\" Lmfao. He loved it tho. \n\n\"I literally met all of these people.\"",
"Team sports. The advocacy news networks are like sports talk if they only talked about how the other team sucks.",
"I grew up in San Diego in the 80’s.\n\nI remember the whole, “Panda being pregnant” story always being HUGE news growing up so they really hit it right on the head with that one",
"In other news, the Prime Minister of Sweden visited Washington today, and my tiny little nipples went to France!",
"that was actually really classy andrew marr",
"You should try reading their comment",
"No ik that, its just breaking news content is now the focus of the entiee industry with the consumers to the executives. Local news isnt all bad but they also are exposed for recycling the same narratives as many other (even different states) news stations.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo\n\nThis is that sinclair monster.",
"Shit, thanks. I don't know how I missed that part lol.",
"You're also known for being a whale's vagina.",
"It was way too long and not very funny.",
"> Anchorman 2 and Zoolander 2 were both good lessons hollywood learned about trying to ham fist comedy sequels.\n\nFTFY",
"Buddy you don’t even know 20 people let alone 20 that have cancelled their licenses.",
"I've lived here my whole life and never have been to the Zoo, only Sea World once, and haven't been to Legoland. \n\nNot trying to sound like I'm so totally rad, but eh, Balboa Park, the beaches, skate parks, trails are cheap, free and dope. Lotta locals don't hit those spots unless they work there. \n\nShout out to Wild Animal Park up north, my mom worked there and it's amazing. \n\nFiesta Island is my jam. Petco Park is like a metaphor for San Diego. Sure it's a baseball park, but is it? It's a beautiful stadium, but has the vibe of a dude with a giant straw hat chilling with a Modelo.",
"Are you a millionaire? \n\nHehe, pro-tip: just go a little north to San Marcos or Vista. Vista especially, it's so beautiful in the hills and mos o menos more affordable.",
"I live in Phoenix, and it’s between the number of transplants moving here and Tucson generally being kind of an afterthought here; I heard the mispronunciation a bunch from the 90s when I moved here until the suv came out.",
"He really is the best Doctor Spaceman I've ever known.",
"Same with IT industry. everyone that I work with is obsessed with Office Space.",
"I personally loved it. I was the lead editor at a TV station for 5 years. I loved it, but it was a little too real at times. I can see why it wasn't a huge commercial success though.",
"Was actually hoping he'd say \"go fuck yourself, San Diego\"",
"I was hoping for go fuck yourself.",
"If only that was a problem unique to the U.S.",
"I was hoping it was gonna be the other quote, and the guy wanted to burn some bridges before he left.",
"GREETINGS GUMSHOES!",
"Yeah it will be interesting which end of the spectrum he takes (e.g. don't get me wrong as he is occasionally balanced - the Nick Ferrari end or the James OB end?). Think he'll try and float somewhere in the middle in all honesty.",
"Epic.",
"We need anchorman 3 and the original anchorman script.\n\nMore important than world peace and freedom wrapped in a burrito.",
"It’s not that doing it live makes it easier.\n\nWhat happened in that moment was embarrassing for O’Reilly, and because he has a big ego he wants to reframe the situation to one where it’s the fault of others involved in the production, rather than him. That way, he can point blame rather than feel embarrassment.",
"TIL that I pronounce Tijuana wrong, there is no 3rd a.\n\nCongrats on correcting another person’s pronunciation.",
"Ye if you look you’ll notice he doesn’t move his left arm as well, because of that stroke",
"Wow what a great name for that sub",
" Andrew “AP World History Champion” Marr",
"He also had covid if im remembering correctly too \n\nIve met a few news readers (we dont call them anchormen/women in the UK) and Krishnan Guru Murthy and Andrew Marr were by far the nicest.",
"Me too.",
"That's like signing of with Austin Powers saying \"YEAH BABY\"...Like, he could have put a little more thought into it.",
"Imagine being so obsessed with Chomsky you accept anything he says as gospel.\n\nI don't accept everything Marr says, but I do consider him a very good interviewer in this video.\n\nIf we're talking the full video, there are MANY other explanations that could go into someone getting more red over the course of a 30 minute interview. And by the end he looked very satisfied with how the whole thing went and did not mean ill will.",
"This morning I tried to brush my teeth with a lobster!",
"Just gonna turn your career into a meme. Weird flex but ok",
"Still beholden to never talking about things that cast the advertisers in a bad light.",
"Damn I was really hoping for \"Go fuck yourself, San Diego\"",
"chomsky going to town on this mofo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcpcytUnWU",
"I thought it was about a young shark who got adopted by a little boy and nursed back to health before being released back into the open ocean",
"If they can't deny the truth, the next logical step is to bury it.",
"K",
"He isnt retiring. He is moving to LBC Radio",
"He is moving to LBC Radio",
"Then you would never have had the horse piss dialog.",
"Ah! Didn’t know that. Wow! Non stop!",
"He was a wet blanket... proper state broadcaster man, always backing whoever was in charge.",
"[Fucking TIME TRAVEL!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Blf073f2Lc)",
"We had a 30 minute complete demolition of Jeremy Corbyn in person (and rightfully so, he was a terrible candidate) and a 1:27 monologue against Boris. He should've just conducted the 30 minute interview with an empty chair, or not air the Corbyn interview without taping the Boris interview first. Let's not pretend this was fair and balanced coverage.",
"I say \"It's chicken of the cave\" way too much.",
"I still suggest cave chicken when nobody knows where we should go for dinner",
"From watching it I gathered he used words I'm not an expert though",
"Cool, but how did he work so long, not knowing how to tie a necktie? 😀",
"That was the last gasp of journalism.",
"I love lamp",
"Wtf are people on about? I posted that video because it was pretty scathing and really clearly shows him not doing Boris any favours.\n\nIf you want examples of Andrew actually roasting Boris there's like 5000 clips on YouTube. Just go watch them.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk",
"His books are well worth a read for anyone wondering!",
"Just wanna chime in and say if you don't remember it, give it another go, it isn't the original, but it is dense in jokes. Some of those jokes are direct riffs on the first, but the angle they took (24 hour news cycle as others mentioned) is pretty witty and I think it's a better movie than it gets credit for, since it was the sequel of a meme icon.",
"Just hijacking this comment to note that Andrew Marr was perhaps THE journalist most responsible for lying the British public into the Iraq War. \n\n'Mr Blair is well aware that all his critics out there in the party and beyond aren't going to thank him - because they're only human - for being right when they've been wrong. And he knows that there might be trouble ahead, as I said. But I think this is very, very important for him. It gives him a new freedom and a new self-confidence. He confronted many critics.'\n\n'I don't think anybody after this is going to be able to say of Tony Blair that he's somebody who is driven by the drift of public opinion, or focus groups, or opinion polls. He took all of those on. He said that they would be able to take Baghdad without a bloodbath, and that in the end the Iraqis would be celebrating. And on both of those points he has been proved conclusively right. And it would be entirely ungracious, even for his critics, not to acknowledge that tonight he stands as a larger man and a stronger prime minister as a result.' (Marr, BBC 1, News At Ten, April 9, 2003)",
"New surgeon general of the united states!",
"My bad, I thought your joke was about Far From Home :) and my \"joke\", as it was, was supposed to be about us, the viewers, knowing that information because we've seen 20 Spider-Man movies at this point.",
"And that's just the origin movies...",
"Thats cringe",
"\"What can i do to really leave a mark when i retire?\" .. he asked his kids at breakfast, then he just ran with it.\n\nI guess if people talk about this for months/years on end he has kind of achieved the goal.\n\nDefinitely has \"old man tries to be hip / make a meme\" vibes about it all the same.",
"Andrew Marr is a massive hypocrite who decided to impose a superinjunction when he decided the press shouldn't cover the reports of him cheating on his wife with a fellow journalist. He also told viewers Tony Blair was a \"bigger man today\" for invading Iraq. He's a little weasel of a man, and a poor journalist, as seen in his interview of Noam Chomsky, readily available in YouTube . Fuck him.",
"Cyrill, Jerry, and the progressive spokes per...box? Mascot? \n\nHe does progressive commercials too. \n\nHe's just really great all around.",
"Just stay away from east county.",
"Definitely due a rewatch to see if anything sticks.",
"Tuc-son Ari-zon-yaa.",
"And then the video linked at the end is Andrew Marr defending Boris Johnson by lying about what Boris said and making up something much nicer and more sensible. Maybe the 4th pillar is holding up the people at the top more than holding them to account.",
"People blame social media for being divisive, but deregulating the news media Was the beginning of the end. People continue to put trust in media institutions that are profit driven and have ZERO obligation to responsibly report the truth.",
"What u mean deregulated? Tv licenses? Media licenses? That is regulation and that is also why theres no new media and monopoly on media. \n\nIts not even that they are profit driven.\n\nLook at CNN. No one watches them, but how after years are they still reporting. Well you see its really profitable when you work for the government and play team sports. Pick a side. They will pay you handsomely.\n\nWe dont have capitalism anymore. We have crony capitalism, every economist agrees. A mix of businesses making NDA with politicians, giving bribes to pass regulations benefitting them.",
"You’re out of your element Donny. Telecom act of ‘96. You’ve got reading to do."
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BBC Reporter of 21 Years Signs Off His Final Broadcast with Anchorman Quote
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y95I0rb1JoU
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/r/videos/comments/rk6gh4/off_for_the_holidays_heres_how_to_make_bagpipes/
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"What the hell is that rubbish!",
"greaaaat just what the world needs.... more bagpipes",
"Bagpipes are great if you hear the right player. Unfortunately most of the public/Hollywood bagpipers are not good and it gives bagpipes a bad name. \n\nCheck out jack lee, William McCallum, or Simon Fraser university pipe band if you want to hear some good bagpipes.",
"Celebrating the holidays with your parent who are disappointed in you? Try this one trick!",
"They're fine from a significant distance"
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Off for the holidays? Here’s how to make Bagpipes from 2 straws and a latex glove
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"The black and white OG of this vid is quite famous",
"[The Hunter](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1703148/)",
"It makes me so sad every time I see this footage.\n\nWhy have we still not learnt.",
"Haven't there been some recent sightings?",
"The way this guy talks is probably my favorite iteration of English cadence thus far."
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"Guy on the bike got fucking rekt",
"Film quality from over 100yrs ago, great quality. Video taken on a cell phone from the century, potatoe quality.",
"I've always been super impressed by the process of colorizing old film. It brings a very interesting look into how it may have actually looked at the time.",
"Not a single person in this video has been alive for over a decade now especially considering the lack of gloves most likely signifies middle or lower class at best…those trees may be upwards of 4 feet wide if they’re still around too. No power lines and yet that electric street light wouldn’t of even been around for 20 years yet, so bright in comparison to the old gas lighting that the arc lamp would be described as “The Midnight Sun”. And in just 17 years from the time this was shot the Great War began, German aircraft bombarding Paris, food shortages and an influenza when Modern Germ Theory had only developed in the 1860’s. All these things seem to be so easily taken for granted, but look how far we’ve come in such a short amount of time and not very long ago at all."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7pzR7h7UDM
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"I hate that he's an even better nerd than I am.\n\nLike, I don't have much, dude. You're like 6ft 4, You're hot as shit and you're intelligent. Please just go away.",
"I think this is one of the most charming interviews ever.",
"Henry, king of nerds, first of his name",
"He's also incredibly nice. Not quite Keanu level, but close.",
"I cannot believe Spiderman just asked Superman if they could play Warhammer together!",
"He reminds me of the character from an episode of Psych titles \"Not Even Close...Encounters\". Shawn and Gus had a childhood friend who was super nerdy, wore a cloak and all that. In the present day, he is crazy handsome, has a smoking hot wife, and it is revealed that he has a secret man-cave for the sole purpose of him doing nerdy shit without his super hot wife knowing.",
"I just started this show, mostly because of Henry Cavill.",
"What a bastard",
"We truly are living in the best timeline.",
"Don’t forget rich!",
"\"Leave some for the rest of us\", lol",
"....if thats true then I'm assuming every other timeline has already ended.",
"Well, hypothetically, if there are an infinite number of universes, than there are an infinite number of universes where the timeline has in fact already ended.",
"Except the host acting like it's childish to enjoy your hobbies. Made him look like a bit of a prick.",
"Ah he's just poking fun. No harm no foul",
"That’s just Graham Norton’s schtick. He does that with most guests.",
"What an absolutely perfect Superman/Clark Kent. Ughhhh SMH at DC for squandering a once in a generation casting of the man of steel",
"ONE OF US, ONE OF US!!",
"I get that it's light-hearted joking to poke fun at someone's hobbies. At some point you miss out on building a connection with someone though when you just make fun of something they care about. It's not good to normalise insulting someone, even if it's meant to be a throwaway joke.\n\nFor me, it would be much more interesting to hear about what it is that makes him enjoy Warhammer etc. so much. For example the artistic release of painting figures in your own way, the interesting stories of the lore which make you think about the world. Or it's just fun to battle your friends in competition to see who is the best. If it wasn't someone as confident as Henry, they might think f*** this, I'm not going to talk about my hobbies in public anymore which is quite sad and I'm sure a few people feel like this.",
"So glad I fell through that portal into the best timeline! In my timeline, Donald Trump became president, lost his reelection, then attempted a coup. Craziest thing was, nobody seemed to care!",
"Why is Reddit simping for this guy so much?",
"Because he's charming, polite, nerdy, doesn't take himself too seriously and in one of Netflix's most popular shows. Need more reasons?",
"He is super likeable. He treats his fans nicely and on top of that he is very famous and has nerdy relatable hobbies that resonate with a lot of people. TBH I don't see what is there to not like about him.",
"He is relatable for many.",
"*checks IMDB...* Freddie Prinze Jr. \n\nOk that tracks.",
"Graham Norton is hands down the best talk show host. He does a fantastic job at including everyone and the guests almost always have excellent banter with one another.",
"\"why does reddit like this guy that likes things that are super popular on reddit so much??\"",
"At University, there was this guy who was in the Israeli Army. Guy was huge, like over 6 foot, and build like a Mac truck. He was also top of the class for electrical engineering, damn good looking, and the nicest guy you'd meet. Her walk up and ask you how your day was and was actually interested. I would pick on him saying that he needs to be an asshole so we could get some girls. Last I heard, hes up in Washington working on his PhD.",
"Well, He can just go fuck himself then.",
"The atheist dweebs need someone to worship.",
"I mean at the end of the day interviews are meant to be marketing in an enternaining way. A big portion of the audience doesn’t care about warhammer and besides that he’s there to be talking about the witcher series. I mean I get what you are saying, but then again his ”mean” jokes were pretty funny to me. It 100% sounds ridicilous when you talk about painting warhammer models as a 30 year old man ( which I have done ) so self deprecating humor is always the best.",
"I used to play Warhammer when I was younger and I get Graham Norton and how he teases guests, I've watched him for like 15 years. I just think it's a bit tired to poke fun at people who do anything that's seen as different.\n\nEven if it's lighthearted, it has an effect on people. However, I can see that in some sense mainstream TV is a reflection of the people that watch it so maybe it's what people want.",
"I think international superstar, millionaire, and sexiest man alive 2013 Henry Cavill was able to take the joke about about his hobbies on this occasion.",
"\"It's Warhammer, Graham!\" That cracked me up.",
"idk if that math checks out"
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Henry Cavill on The Witcher and correcting people on set.
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[
"what is this ?",
"*\"This one uses the velocity from a Pyro smoke simulation to advect the curve points. The curve is then resampled on each framestep to stop the resolution from diminishing over time.\"*",
"smoke rings, as far as i understand"
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Insane Rubberband Smoke
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=jJL0XoNBaac
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/r/videos/comments/rk8gtd/the_assassins_teapot_is_weird/
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[
"It did break the flow of the video and that is when I turned it off.",
"Filling that thing up must suck",
"If it’s a potent enough poison, wouldn’t it just get on the “spout” of the teapot and poison every pour",
"Probably the best to pour your own drink first although that might be against etiquette. Then again you might not want to use a poison so strong that the person croaks right in front of you when you don't want too look suspicious."
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The Assassin's Teapot Is Weird
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https://youtu.be/Cw29h7LhEuE
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/r/videos/comments/rk8n6o/8_years_ago_this_youtuber_was_trying_to_tell/
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[
"This begs the real question. What is the $1 investment you can make now that in 8 years will be worth $50k+? \n\n\nWho am I kidding? What is the $1 investment I can make today that will be worth $50 in 20 years?",
"RemindMe! 8 years",
"I was mining bitcoins then. Mined 3 of them in about a year. Sold them for about $60 total",
"LOOPRING",
"Wow, you think I or anyone else doesn't know that? Did you not read the rest where I ask a much more realistic question?",
"Do I want to google that?",
"I used to buy bit coin to buy \"cereal boxes\" on the internet. Shouldve just kept the bit coins. Theres nothing more frustrating then knowing you traded a winning lottery ticket for lucky charms.",
"Idk lucky charms are definitely top cereal though",
"Props for being so early! Profit is profit",
"ITS A CRYPTO TOKEN THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD.",
"Doesn't change the fact crypto is stupid as hell",
"I remember when it first hit $1000.....and I thought, I'm too late, it's done it's dash, might fluctuate a bit but not to some huge degree.",
"> What is the $1 investment I can make today that will be worth $50 in 20 years?\n\nEducation.",
"Beanie babies",
"Why’s that 👀",
"Kind of a stupid thing to beat yourself up over. No one knows when to cash out of bitcoin. The vast majority of bitcoin owners sold their coins as soon as they made some profit in fear of market regulation causing a crash. \n\nOnly a few people managed to forget about their bitcoin and then remember their passwords to access millions of dollars worth of bitcoin.\n\nSo you would have had to forget about your bitcoin in order to keep the coins at which point you’d be rolling the dice of becoming part of the estimated 20% of all bitcoin that has been lost and is not recoverable.\n\nAt least you got value out of your bitcoin.",
"I understand that and appreciate the sentiment, its just really silly when i think back on it. All the risk and dumb shit i did, when all i had to do was forget about a flash drive for 10 years instead.",
"[This is probably the strongest argument IMO.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=2AqEKAJY3ZQ)",
"It’s not a dollar but XMR.",
"Is that you, Carlos Matos?",
"You could invest equal amounts in 5-10 promising alt-coins for a couple of years and hope that a couple of them turn out to be massive winners.",
"Is this a real question? It's obviously [NFTs.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ycmeJ5drpgM/maxresdefault.jpg)",
"Gotta invent that time machine"
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8 years ago this YouTuber was trying to tell people to buy $1 worth of Bitcoin (the price was less than $20 per Bitcoin at the time). This year, Bitcoin was trading at $69,000
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piCsGals9zQ
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/r/videos/comments/rk9q6s/after_convincing_her_boyfriend_to_commit_suicide/
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[
"Cara Delevingne doppelgänger.",
"Fucking bitch deserves prison",
"Our adversarial justice system creates some behavior that ranges from seemingly inexplicable to just plain horrific. As the defense lawyer in a situation where your client has done something truly awful, and there is no doubt about them having done it, you don't have many options apart from defending that awful action.\n\nYou can logic yourself into this state of affairs, thinking about what equal under the law really implies, but that doesn't make it any less jarring when you get to this kind of outcome.",
"For anyone who wants info, Michelle Carter was convicted of Involuntary Manslaughter (yes, \"involuntary\" ) and served only 11 months before being released.",
"I need more background on this. Like why was his car filling up with CO, how quickly did he get out, why did he call his friend, why did she tell him to get back in the car? It still doesn't change what she did though, no lie. RIP to the young man. <333 :(",
"Is this from a docume¡tary?",
"[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Conrad_Roy)\n\n[Also here's the trailer for a good documentary about it from HBO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNTz5ceNSuU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNTz5ceNSuU)",
"**[Death of Conrad Roy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Conrad_Roy)** \n \n >Conrad Henri Roy III (September 12, 1995 – July 13, 2014) was an American man who committed suicide at the age of 18. His girlfriend, then 17-year-old Michelle Carter, encouraged him in text messages to commit suicide. The case was the subject of a notable investigation and involuntary manslaughter trial in Massachusetts, colloquially known as the \"texting suicide case\". Commonwealth v.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"Because he was intentionally filling it with exhaust to commit suicide at her urging.",
"Fucking sick... she did everything she could to get this guy to kill himself and she gets to live her life.\n\nLock her up and bin the fucking key, she ended his life and freedom so she doesn't deserve to have a life of freedom to live either.\n\nNot sure I actually wanted to know how little time this utter bitch got for this",
"Thank you very much",
"Damn",
">with the judges having none of it\n\nNot a lawyer, but it didn't seem that way at all. The Judges are having some of it. The only Judge speaking seems to be trying to sus out what the defense lawyer is arguing and how that applies to the laws of their commonwealth. \"having none of it\" would be the Judges dressing this lawyer down for something like arguing that the defendant paid a parking fine 5 years back and therefore gets one free \"oppsie\".",
"damn and here I am trying to convince my girlfriend to wear a vibrating buttplug to dinner",
"I mean, the lawyer has to do his job right? That's his job. In America it's a point of pride that everybody has the right to a defense.",
"The problem with your argument is that the judicial system is how you prove that person guilty. Whether these kinds of arguments are made in court or in a back room somewhere someone has to play devils advocate.",
"Just fyi, I believe he had been threatening to commit suicide for some time and she kept telling him not to. It was only after weeks (months?) of repeatedly doing so that she finally just told him to do it.\n\nIf I'm wrong, I'd appreciate someone pointing it out.",
"> and she kept telling him not to\n\nNot according to the text on the video, and in (her) the defendants own words, she had spent weeks badgering / berating him into killing himself... From 1:01 to 1:15 in the video",
"You didn't look very hard then.\n\nHe was depressed and she was emotionally abusive for a long time.\n\n> Example I would bring up is if your grandparent had a terrible disease and was in pain everyday and just wanted to die... You tell them you love them and its ok for them to do it. They kill themselves to end the suffering. Does that make you responsible for what they did and should now be in jail??\n\nNo but if you spend 40 minutes convincing a depressed person having a mental breakdown to kill themselves then yes, you are partly responsible. It's in a different realm, though plenty of countries consider it assisting in suicide of people who are disabled etc/in pain, as illegal, most don't prosecute.\n\nThis was a case of gross inhumanity and abuse, so they did. You could've just watched the video and pretty clearly understood the difference so I don't get the 'I can't seem to find the answer but WHY'? I know it's really hard but maybe watch the first 30 fucking seconds of the video you're commenting on. Pleb.",
"Emotions have no place in sentencing. I hope you're never on a jury.",
"Apologies if I'm misunderstanding you, but that's roughly what I mean by \"logic yourself into this state of affairs.\" That is, I understand how and why it's necessary, but it's still disconcerting to be presented with the negative side-effects.",
"Absolutely. That is their job. Defend a person to the best of their abilities even if they are very clearly in the wrong. Like in the show Better Call Saul, he's a down-on-his-luck lawyer taking shitty cases. He gets one about desecrating a corpse. He does everything he can to defend them, but Jimmy knows that what happened was not just unlawful, but horrific. But he is paid to defend them.",
"I believe you'll find that the jury only find guilty / not guilty and it's the judge that sets the sentence",
"How about you both wear vibrating butt plugs to dinner? Sounds like a compromise.",
"I think you're on to something",
"\"just do it\" vs \"did it\" is two diff things, that's why",
"Yeah, if I remember correctly it was because she got tired of him constantly saying he was going to, so she finally just kept telling him to do it already if he was going to say he was.",
"I mean, he's not wrong (?)",
"She should have got extra time for those eyebrows.",
"Everyone should watch the documentary or read some more about this case before drawing conclusions from a 4:38m video. The kid was depressed af and did try to commit suicide before. She told him in several occasions to get help and not do anything to harm himself, but nothing seemed to help him. I’m not saying she was right, but she is not some killer bitch like a lot of people think she is.",
"There are some variances to this rule. The first is in states where juries are the ones who recommend sentences which are then approved or changed by the judge. In that case, yes the judge is setting the final sentence, but a large part of the time the judge follows the juries recommendation. The other time is in death penalty cases. In trials where the death penalty is an optional sentence, the jury who finds the defendant guilty is not the same jury who will rule on the death penalty. The sentencing phase involves a second jury which is impartial to the trial and is solely there to determine if convict's crime warrant the death penalty. In that case, the jury and only the jury, can determine sentence.",
"I think they were being very impartial and were set on purely debating the arguments against the rule of law, rather than the morality of what she did.",
"Good luck and I suggest avoiding mexican if you're going out for dinner.",
"Yeah, I mean personally I think she needs to face some sort of punishment for what she did, but there is a difference between \"legal\" and \"morally right\". If the way the laws are written make it so they can't be read as making this specific thing illegal, then *technically* she didn't commit a crime. Real fucked up tho",
"Yes, the lawyer is doing his job and that is the law he is reciting. It is legislation that failed, not the justice system. There just wasn't a law for this kind of a case so she got out basically with a slap on the wrist. If the defense lawyer does not make that happen, they should be disbarred. We all know that injustice happened. Hope they plug that hole in the law.",
"Saying she ended his life takes away his agency. He killed himself. If this same person had verbally manipulated him into giving her money, we wouldn't have said she had stolen it. I do hope she feels pretty bad about all of it and spends the rest of her life trying to make up for it",
"There wasn't a law for this. We can not over ride the law and sometimes injustice happens. It is legislation that has to make sure there are laws for these kind of cases, that is the best outcome. Think of the big picture, there are millions and millions of people who rely on a system that does NOT do the things you wanted to happen, that no one \"throw away the keys\" because of emotions. We all know what happened is wrong. If you live in that state, do some research if there are any changes made to the law and if not, do something about it. And you should really do the same even if you don't live there, check that this can't happen, take action if it can. Use that emotion and turn it into a positive change.",
"are you out of your fuckin' mind?\n\nyou think because someone told a depressed person multiple times to get help and they didn't, that it's not wrong to then begin encouraging the person to kill themselves?\n\nhow about instead of that, get out of their life?\n\nencouraging someone to kill themselves is evil, it is mentally deranged.\n\nit does not matter how many times you tried to help them before.\n\nngl i find it a bit disturbing that you are not on the same page here",
"That completely makes sense, I guess I mean no matter what the evidence is it first has to be verified and given it’s proper context. In my opinion the best way to prove something true is to try and prove it false. So no matter what, at some point someone has got to make these kinds of arguments for us to even know beyond all doubt the person did it. Even if the person making these arguments is the investigator to themselves. \n\nPersonally I don’t see these kinds of arguments in court cases as negative side effects. I see them as proof the system is working. Does that make sense?",
"Voluntary manslaughter charges are usually for homicides that are not premeditated and/ or without malice aforethought (i.e. heat of the moment, crime of passion). Involuntary manslaughter charges (often called negligent homicide) are for homicides that result from actions that, while not intentional, a reasonable person should've seen as likely to cause death. Murder is usually premeditated homicide of some sort and usually requires that the accused had been fully aware of their actions and their consequences ahead of time.\n\nIn criminal law, the legal burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt. The jury must be certain that the accused is the only one who could be responsible for the crimes committed. In this case, for murder charges, the prosecution had to prove with absolute certainty that:\n\nA. The victim died as a direct result of the defendant's actions\n\nB. The defendant was fully aware of their actions and their consequences in the moment and before the crime took place.\n\nPart of the challenge for prosecutors is selecting charges that are most likely to result in a conviction. If you charge someone with a really serious crime, you need really conclusive evidence to prove it. If the evidence is weak enough, the defense can sow doubt in the jury enough to sway them away from absolute certainty. So the question becomes, is it better to charge them with something that technically fits the crime best and risk an acquittal, or charge them with something lesser that is more likely to see a conviction?",
"Yeah a lot of armchair executioners in this thread. I'm in no way saying what she did was right, but she is probably not mentally stable either if she didn't understand the implications. And after months of dealing with it, I could see someone snapping and pushing back. Now, the phone call and urging him to get back in the car are a whole other animal.\n\nBut she's also fucking 17 years old. This isn't like some grown ass adult manipulating someone into taking their own life. This is a kid making a really fucking stupid decision during an emotional ordeal (for both parties I'm sure. Unless she's just a complete and utter psychopath, which I have yet to see evidence of).",
"You find it a bit disturbing that I’m not in the same page… with you? So I must be some type of derange psyco if I don’t see things according to you then? I must be EVIL because I don’t want to jump to conclusions before hand and maybe because I want to acknowledge the fact we are talking about really fuck up teenagers here. And did you read the clear part in which I stated that I think that was wrong what she did. No, you didn’t. There is always more to the story. Learn this.",
"I'm not sure I'd even use the word technically. If some shitty pioneer wants to find a new way to be bad, something that sucks though not illegal, they can write a law afterward that to punish subsequent behavior. If there is no rule that dogs can't play basketball, just fan expectation that it's a human-only sport, I fully expect air bud to be on the court until a rule against it is codified",
"I think both parties handled this extremely well. The lawyer did a phenomenal job using what he had to work with to defense his client. Whether he agreed with it or not. And the judges attempted to play to logic and the law to determine what should really be the case. The legislature failed but both parties I thought did what they could to the best of their abilities and get a reasonable outcome. While what she did was sickening and terrible, I admire both parties trying to get a form of American “justice”",
"She is not at fault for his death, he is but she did encourage him to kill himself. So the argument is what to charge her with if anything?",
">Unless she's just a complete and utter psychopath, which I have yet to see evidence of).\n\nTelling your BF to \"get back in the fucking car\", while knowing that car is full of a poisonous gas, and that getting back in will kill him, is pretty psychopathic isn't it? \n\n\nOr is it just a young kid making an oopsie? Lol",
"We do actually have the ability to over ride the law however with jury nullification so if the charges against the person were brought up differently the jury can deliver a verdict of whatever they want with the judge only having the power to override a guilty verdict and even then its not a guarantee. The fact that you cannot really be found wrong for a verdict is a crucial part of being a juror but its also why they try to weed out anyone aware of jury nullification during the juror selection process.",
"Yep… soo many people on Reddit who have terrifying views on crime, punishment, and justice. It makes me so scared of ever being in court, and makes me seriously wonder why the hell we haven’t figured out a better system than a bunch of random citizens in a jury.",
"i'm not jumping to conclusions..been following this case for ages..\n\n>And did you read the clear part in which I stated that I think that was wrong what she did\n\nMaybe you should read your own comment, where you don't say this at all.. Saying \" I’m not saying she was right, but she is not some killer bitch like a lot of people think she is. \" is not even close to saying she was wrong, in fact it somewhat is defending her behavior.\n\nYes, I can come to the conclusion that it's disturbing that you are in a sense defending her behavior, pointing out that she tried to help him prior as if that means anything towards the dark shit she did.\n\n\"I want to acknowledge the fact we are talking about really fuck up teenagers here.\"\n\nTeenagers can be fucking evil, it's not like they are excluded here. We both know I don't need to link you countless articles of teens being sent to jail for doing really evil things.\n\nWe've all been a teenager, this is not \"teens doing teen things\" type situation.",
"WiTH THE judGES HAving nONE OF It.",
"I would hardly equate eleven months in prison to a slap on the wrist. What she did was really fucked up, but frankly the guy did decide to take his own life.",
"The thing about this case and especially the HBO doc is how can they prove that she told him to get back in the car? It was all on a phone call if I remember correctly. She outed herself out to a mutual friend but at the same time it sounded like she was telling a story.",
"That was the lawyer's argument, but there IS a law for it, which the judge even talked about in the video. It simply isn't true that laws MUST be affirmative. There are not laws that specifically state every possible crime that can be committed. Instead, we have broad laws that describe general behavior and which can apply to many situations. In 49 states there is no law against shooting a whale from a moving vehicle, but it is not true that someone could only be prosecuted for it in the one state that specifically enshrined this exact situation in law. All other states have broader animal welfare, responsible gun usage, motor vehicle operation, and public safety laws that apply.",
"That was the lawyer's argument, but there IS a law for it, which the judge even talked about in the video. It simply isn't true that laws MUST be affirmative. There are not laws that specifically state every possible crime that can be committed. Instead, we have broad laws that describe general behavior and which can apply to many situations. In 49 states there is no law against shooting a whale from a moving vehicle, but it is not true that someone could only be prosecuted for it in the one state that specifically enshrined this exact situation in law. All other states have broader animal welfare, responsible gun usage, motor vehicle operation, and public safety laws that apply.",
"But that fails as an argument given that Kevorkian got 10-25 for 2nd degree murder for a person who consented (as well as the person's family). So it's not the person's agency that is important.",
"It's a misleading title. What it is, is a good example of the lawyers and judges trying to test this fucked up situation against the laws as written.",
"She gets to live, but at least with these facts out for everyone to see. Hopefully this fucking bitch lives a life of misery herself.",
"Did the thought of simply breaking up with that poor bastard even occur to that bitch? Did she really have to go all in like that?",
"I usually try to never comment on my own posts, but I have to step in here because you got a couple of things wrong when you were supposed to \"clear things up\".\n\nFirst, the girl never agreed to a \"Romeo and Juliet\" pact like you're claiming. When the guy mentioned that they're like Romeo and Juliet, the girl said sure, the guy then said \"You know how it ends, right?\" and the girl responded something along the lines of \"Hell no, not like that\". She never agreed to a \"Romeo and Juliet\" suicide pact with him like you're claiming. You're wrong on this point.\n\nSecondly, Here are transcripts word for word of the text messages from the day of the suicide: \n\n>Michelle: \"Are you gonna do it now?\"\n\n>Conrad: \"I'm home\"\n\n>Michelle: \"Okay.\"\n\n>Conrad: \"Ahhh\"\n\n>Michelle: \"What?\"\n\n>Conrad: \"Idkk I'm stressin\"\n\n>Michelle: \"You're fine, it's gonna be okay. You just gotta do it babe, you can't think about it\"\n\n>'1 hour later' Michelle: \"Are you gonna do it now?\"\n\n>Conrad: \"I haven't left yet haha\"\n\n>Conrad: \"leavin now\"\n\n>Michelle: \"Okay. You can do this\"\n\n>Conrad: \"Okay I'm almost there\"\n\nShe literally told him that day to commit suicide and repeatedly asked him if he was going to do it. She was definitely involved. You wrote \"The victim drove to location and attempted suicide prior to the call which provoked this case.\" \"It should be reiterated that this was already a suicide attempt before the defendants involvement.\" You're wrong, she was involved that day before he started his suicide attempt, she asked him earlier that day to do it, \"You just gotta do it babe\". So why would you write something that is completely false? Where did you even get this info from? She was 100% involved that day, she literally texted him to do it that day, and here you are saying that she wasn't involved before he actually was in the car trying to kill himself. Why would you write something like this that is just 100% false? And what do you even get out of writing something misleading like this? Genuine question because I'm curious. \n\nThirdly, according to her, when the guy got out of the car and had doubts about killing himself, she talked to him in their last 47-minute phone call and she convinced him to get back in the car and kill himself. These are her own words. Now I'm a little unsure of your fifth point. I just watched the documentary today, so it's still fresh in my mind, but I don't remember anything about her telling him to stop after telling him to do it in their last phone call. Any source on this? Maybe timestamp on the documentary or transcripts of the text messages you can provide?\n\nIn my opinion, this is what's so dangerous about reddit and online forums in general, you're claiming to \"clarify some points that have been misconstrued.\" while doing the exact opposite of what you're claiming, and you're instead providing misleading information and making it worse. You should take some responsibility and remove the false parts of your comment before more people read it and are mislead. But it's your own choice, you can do however you wish.",
"I'll admit he was convincing, I just don't like her face. She immediately makes it all about her in that text \"I could've stopped him, oh poor me\"",
"Didn't kevorkian set up and activate the devices? Wasn't he present? It's been a while and I don't remember.",
"He set up the devices, the person would push the button to release the drugs. I think for the specific one he got convicted, the patient was late stage ALS and was unable to activate the device.",
"But those are specific laws broken by specific acts. Shooting a gun on a highway is illegal - regardless if it's a whale, a hummingbird, or the moon above. Whales may be furthermore protected. Driving while shooting is clearly reckless. \n\nThis idea that laws are as malleable as you say needs a lot more to be backed up than what you provide.",
"Shes just a poor woman, its was probably all hormones /s",
"If it was 11 months she did the time in jail and never saw prison. Prison is for long term and that means more then a year in every part of the US I know of.",
"What is going on in these comments - so many people in here are straight up just defending her and her actions.\n\nWhich is bad enough, but much much worse is the fact they are being upvoted, and the people who seem to have much better knowledge of the case telling them they are wrong and what she did was awful and they are getting downvoted.\n\nSome weird type of brigading going on here.",
"Is that some good lawyering or what because I kinda agree with his point.",
"I think the \"out\" here is that she doesn't have anything to do with the generator or truck. It's very fine but significant hairs to split.",
"People are confusing a legal defense with a moral defense.\n\nIts entirely possible to believe it was awful conduct but not criminal if it doesn't meet the elements of a crime.",
"Applebee's about to be CRAZY",
"> What is going on in these comments - so many people in here are straight up just defending her and her actions.\n\nreddit is pro suicide and full of people circle jerking to mental illness \n\nit's one of the worst aspects of reddit along with the Asian/Persian fetishes",
"It may be. I think it was more the spectacle than for a specific legal reason. He had admitted to plenty of them but it was the only one they were able to get him on. It probably also pissed them off that he used the trial as his soapbox for assisted suicide with national attention (dismissed his lawyers and represented himself)",
"Right, but there are multiple people in here defending her actual actions from a moral standpoint as if she did nothing wrong - legality is never even mentioned. Hell, there's at least two people in this thread saying that she only did the *right* thing up until \"she got tired of him being depressed\" - as if that should matter.\n\nAnd they are still being upvoted.",
"Pretty much. Yep.",
"Good to be a woman. Slap on the wrist.",
"Often it seems the spectacle is the thing",
"based on her sentencing i would say they had plenty of it",
"Well, to be fair. It is less of a suicide and more of a murder.",
"Well there wasn’t a law for it so there’s that",
"Judges BLAST girl who convinced teen to kill himself",
"A lawyer isn’t really “defending” a client… that makes people think they’re like best friends or something… A lawyer merely protects the client by making sure the process of the law takes place. Everyone deserves at least the process",
"Yeah apparently she was making up all sorts of stories to all her friends. She herself is a psycho, and unreliable. How convenient to be like, “Hey bitch you are a liar but you definitely told the truth here in this one text message”",
"Yeah I don’t understand how they can convict her on anything. \n\nSure everyone thinks she’s a crazy piece of garbage but that ain’t a crime lmao",
"She didn’t deserve prison tbh",
"Nothing she didn’t break any laws",
"Ya, hulu i believe",
"\"But male privilege\"",
"If a person is of sound mind (and is not being threatened like the lawyer's example), their suicide is no one's fault but their own.",
"Doubt. She's above average in appearance and from what I can see, comes from a decent family. I didn't even know of this woman before this. And how many of the people in your friends or family or acquaintances have you googled? Because I've literally never done that before.",
"Hawaii? Maine? New Jersey? You can't leave us like this.",
"Downvoted for stupid title",
">it's one of the worst aspects of reddit along with the Asian/Persian fetishes\n\nWait, what? Never seen that one. We must hang in different parts of reddit, where is that found?",
"I'm pretty sure if you manipulate someone into giving you their money, even past the point where they don't want to do it and you tell them to do it so they do, there's a good argument that you have stolen their money. \n\nAlso money isn't a life; they should be treated differently...",
"Judges SLAM and BLAST girl all whilst having NONE OF IT",
"Good luck finding a boyfriend now.",
"She did it for the sympathy attention from her peers. Total sociopath and/or psychopath. 11 months isn't even enough time for her to consider what she did.\n\nThis bitch should be mentioned as much as Brock Turner so she can never forget what she did, but sadly a sociopath doesn't even care.",
"Take that same reasoning and apply it to democracy.",
"that judge is really channeling his inner Christopher waltz... his mannerisms are on point",
"Many people prefer prison to jail. You get a lot more freedom.",
"Imagine the genders reversed",
"Does that mean it's legal for people to tell her to kill herself?",
"Wyoming.",
"That's why we have representative democracy with a rule of law and protections against the tyranny of the majority, and not just 'democracy'.",
"We do? Pretty sure this country was founded with a big chunk of its population as literal slaves, and with half of the population completely disenfranchised from the vote. The Trail of Tears happened because the Supreme Court (so called \"rule of law\") ruled one way and the president just ignored them and did whatever he wanted because it was popular. The American Revolution started over taxes, now the laws of this country impose vastly more taxation than was ever contemplated under British rule. The majority of people voted to make it illegal to drink alcohol. The laws were changed to allow the government to forcibly send you and your kids to go kill foreigners (and die) for it whenever the majority decides it should. Etc.\n\nNo offense, my friend, but reality does not comport with your ideas from 5th grade social studies. There are no \"protections.\" There are words on paper. Words on paper don't do anything.",
"OK buddy.",
"The lawyer is right. As horrible as it is, telling someone to kill themselves isn't akin to murder, not precisely. It is definitely walking right up to the very edge and is obviously terrible. Maybe she thought she was helping someone who was suffering.\n\nSounds like she got manslaughter, seems to fit.",
"lol rekt",
"Judges go wild in the courtroom and EVISCERATE the defense.",
"Judge THROWS SHADE on lawyer doing his job!",
"There was a HBO documentary about this case. At least you will come away with some sense of shade of grey about what happened",
"Human garbage",
"Yeah I know our legal system is fucked up in many ways, but I'm glad to live in a place where (at least theoretically) judges can't just be like \"well you're obviously a piece of shit so we're going to arbitrarily apply punishment\". There has to be a law on the books, and that law has to be proven to have been broken. We probably should have a law about coerced suicide, but as the lawyer in the video points out, they can't just retroactively make one. Sounds like they did make the manslaughter charge apply, though.",
"I can understand Asian fetishes but don't understand Persian.\n\nThen again, I've always liked Meowth better.",
"How did you completely eat the lawyers argument but completely miss or dismiss the challenging question about involuntary manslaughter by the judge, which she was sentenced for?\n\nDid you read the verdict? How they reason their judgement?",
"'I am revolted and will now arbitrarily dispense justice. If your opinion does not match mine then you are morally corrupted.'\n\nI agree with you. If/when the shit really hits the fan and we have major instability in our societies there will be loud voices with this kind of logic dispensing their arbitrary justice.",
"Reddit in a nutshell right here. \n\nGuy you're responding to: \"I'm not saying it's right\"\n\nYou: \"OH SO YOU THINK IT'S RIGHT WHAT SHE DID?!\"\n\nThe internet really turns people into fucking retards huh",
"\"Fault\" doesn't have to be exclusive. They're both the cause of his death. If either one did not actively pursue, he would not have died there.",
"She was convicted. Are disputing that ruling after process?",
"Emotionally and in the moral point of view, the girl friend can be said to be at fault, and I do think so too.\n\nHowever, whether she's at fault by the law seems a very tricky and tough issue that no one can easily decide. Once the case gets in the written law, even a verbal 'joke' without any intention to encourage suicide can be gotten into a 'legal battle', proving that the defendant was or was not aware of a person's suicide intention. Being aware of something or not is, of course, a very subjective and difficult thing for others to judge except the person him/herself.",
"Also activities and things to do to kill time. In some jails there are like 4 old ass magazines the constitutes the entire entertainment available.",
"Uh... You should always be googling people, especially yourself and any future prospects of a SO.",
"J.F.C. how desperate are you to defend the fucking sick actions of this bitch.\n\n\"Oh well it was ok for her to pressure / badger him into killing himself because she was sick of listening to him\"\n\nEither leave him alone completely or get him help, there's no fucking excuse for her actions",
">Persian\n\nIranian women are beautiful man",
"Yes but they don't have competitive learnsets",
"*\"I’m not saying she was right, but she is not some killer bitch like a lot of people think she is.\"*\n\ndo you not see how this statement justifies her behavior to an extent? \"im not saying she was right **BUT**\" - is surely not a way of saying she was wrong. \n\nread his whole comment, he also brings up how she told him to get help multiple times, defending her again",
"And no matter what we might think of the act, this guy is probably right - nobody argues with him on a point of law.\n\nIf there is no law, you can say that maybe there should be one, but that's not the court or the lawyer's job. They are there to interpret and apply the law as it exists.\n\nIf there is no law against what she did, they can't prosecute, otherwise you have judges who can just make up laws whenever they like - and you would be able to be put before a court and prosecuted with something that wasn't a crime when you walked into that court.\n\nPeople vastly misunderstand the legal system, especially the English legal system that the US bases its courts on.\n\nThe law as written did not cover this circumstance. Even the lawyer admits that the conduct was reprehensible, but the courts cannot apply a law that does not exist or go making up laws on the spot. Others can, but not these ones.\n\nAs it is, someone below says she was charged with involuntary manslaughter (i.e. someone died, because of something you did but which you did not realise or intend would result in their death). That's the nearest they could get, on the points of law, to something convictable.\n\nThis is the legal system in action. And they would have needed to go back and revise that law if this was an undesirable result occurring from the standard application of their laws. But it was already too late to do that for this case as those laws weren't in place at the time of the act being committed.\n\nLesson to learn: Put laws in place for obvious crimes before those crimes happen, cover all loopholes and get-out clauses, and look to other jurisdiction's long-established legal systems to see how they handle cases like this and what clauses they had to insert into their laws to cater for them.",
"> If this same person had verbally manipulated him into giving her money, we wouldn't have said she had stolen it\n\nWhat should it be called then...?",
"Think this is video of an appeal to the state supreme court. supreme courts in the us have multiple judges — \"justices\".",
"I dunno dude, she's a solid 6.5/10 and clearly mental. This is well within my own personal standards. \n\nMight need someone to periodically review our texts, but other than that, I'm game.",
"Any idea about what its called?",
"Watch judges epic CLAP BACK on lawyer",
"There is no defense. He just tried to state a reason as to why she could have done it.",
"Legislature failed, prosecutors worked with what they had on the books and that’s what ultimately they decided could convict her of. \n\nJudges don’t decide the charges, and they usually don’t decide guilt or innocence unless the person waives the right to a jury trial. \n\nConsidering the amount of judges present I assume that was an appeals court or Supreme Court and the lawyer was trying to overturn a conviction based on a law technicality and not her actual guilt.\n\nEdit: \n\n>On Monday, June 5, 2017, the day before the trial was scheduled to begin, Carter waived her right to a jury trial. \n\n>\tOn February 6, 2019, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled that Carter acted with criminal intent when she encouraged Roy into suicide, so her involuntary manslaughter conviction was ordered to stand and that Carter’s 15-month prison sentence would be enforced in the near future.[",
"I'm not sure if you're being serious but laws cannot legislate for absolutely every eventuality. There has to be some ambiguity or vagueness about them. It's like in the UK we have the psychoactive substances act which states something like if something is psychoactive by consumption then it is banned. Obviously this is ambiguous but they can't write every drug derivative out because that would be impractical and they don't even all exist yet.",
"Ah! You also have a degree in psychology and decades of experience to just shake a perfect psychoanalysis out of your sleeve through cyber analysis .\n\nWorse of all, your last sentence is totally YOU putting words into abradolf's comment. He never compared her to a young kid. You did! Therefore neglecting the fact that minors can't legally sign contracts and that many states punish minors differently compared to adults.\n\nBut hey! let's go throw some 10 year old into prison for stealing gummy bears. That will teach them! But wait, 10 years is too soft. Just give him a life sentence. Next!",
"So, Michelle Carter the Manslaughter ? Like Turner Brock the Rapist ?",
"That he was convinced to do it willingly.",
"It's easy to say \"I love you forever' when you know forever is not more than a few hours....",
"I am glad so many criminals are so fucking stupid that they document their crimes meticulously, and even tell other people about them.",
"I'd hate to be a lawyer having to defend someone I hated. What an awful job.",
"Why wasn't she charged as a 6'5'' black man?",
"On one hand, this is what layers do to do their job, on the other, I can't fucking stand this. I get that he needs to find (loop)holes in the law to point out so that the defendant is treated fairly under the law, but 9 out of 10 times it's more like trying to find a way to get away with it",
"I didn't. Take your self righteous nonsense elsewhere.",
"Then that's a really good lawyer. I'm surprised she didn't get over 10 years. Or maybe this is a case of /r/pussypass",
"Because female. Reddit is like 40% women.",
"Would get 1k matches on tinder in a week, like any other 6.5/10",
"Honestly feels mediocre \n\n‘It isn’t a crime because it’s not specifically a crime’\n\n‘But what about this other crime that encompasses it’\n\n‘(Doesn’t respond to that alternative at all)’\n\nI wouldn’t doubt the argument would be considerably more tenuous but surely there’s something to be said that it’s not sufficiently causal or some shit. He mostly went for the low hanging fruit argument lol",
">we wouldn't have said she had stolen it.\n\nYeah we would. I would likely use the word scam as opposed to stolen, but I feel like scam is really just a subcategory of stealing where you use manipulation and trickery.",
"Thank you.",
"Yes you've just described what a scam is, tricking people into willingly going along with the theft.\n\nOr do you contend there is no such thing scamming/stealing because technically people willingly send the money? I mean grandma very deliberately purchase gift cards, and emailed the numbers to the scammer, so does that absolve them of wrongdoing?",
">but there IS a law for it, which the judge even talked about in the video\n\n That judge would've not talked like that if there was a law for THIS. But because there aren't he was talking about IF an existing law could bend enough that it would qualify, which it doesn't, which the lawyer very well explained..",
"Yeah OP seems angry at the wrong people. This guy is doing his job. And well. And I think the judges aren’t “having none of it”. They’re discussing it.",
"Would you prefer that judges be able to issue a sentence outside the bounds of what is legal?",
"Dude she was literally convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Exactly as the judges said in response to the lawyer saying there is no specific statute: \"We do have an involuntary manslaughter statute which talks about wanton and reckless conduct resulting in a death\"\n\nAnd then she got convicted of exactly that, even without a specific \"encouraging someone to suicide\" law. \n\nI feel like a lot of people commenting about how it's terrible they don't have this specific law, and the judge was HaViNg NoNe Of It, and that laws are basically useless if they are broad, are really missing that point. This totally fell under an already existing broad law, the judges rightfully pointed that out, and then she was convicted of that law and sent to jail.",
"The thing is, every single precedent that exist, did not exist at some point. Every precedent is born by making something a crime that wasn't a crime yesterday.",
"More context. She reached out to his family multiple times during their abusive relationship, to his parents about him needing professional mental help. Who blew her off until he finally did kill himself and solely blame her. \n\nShe had tried to break up with him multiple times during which he said “if you break up with me, I’ll kill myself.”\n\nI’m not saying she’s a saint, but he was unwell and abusive too. She told his parents. They ignored her. She was in high school at the time. If the adults are ignoring you, what do you do about that point? \n\nObviously as an adult, you understand it’s not the end. There are other options. Just saying teenagers are rash and can’t always see through their situations as clearly. \n\nTLDR: He was abusive and manipulative. She was young and did tell his parents that he was suicidal. His parents are terrible and trying to blame her for their failure to get him help.",
"Let me defend the indefensible, not because I agree with her actions, but because it’s interesting to consider the law and philosophy.\n\nThe guy was persuaded to commit suicide. Good or bad, the guy decided to do it. She did not force him to do it. It’s inconsistent that we hold the woman responsible for her poor choice to persuade him, whilst we take agency away from the guy who did it to himself. How come she had a choice but he didn’t?\n\nI think our instinct is to punish the malicious person - she wanted to harm somebody else. I don’t think consistency or law is coming into it. Involuntary manslaughter makes no sense here. It’s not like it was “whoops! I accidentally successfully persuaded him to kill himself”.\n\nMaybe we believe “in a moment of weakness” he didn’t have the ability to make a decision, yet when a murder occurs, we hold the murderer responsible for their moment of weakness.\n\nI think we just want the baddie punished. We don’t care about the logic of the law.",
"So not exactly true. She actually told his parents that he needed help and he was suicidal. They ignored her. He was also extremely abusive. \n\nShe tried to break up with him and get him help many times before this particular incident. \n\nEvery time she tried to break up with him, he threatened suicide. The parents knew. \n\nPersonally I hold them more at fault than her. She’s just a kid. He was THEIR kid. The adults hold more responsibility for their inaction.",
"I have a conspiracy about butt plugs. They've been around for a long time but for the past decade or so they have become fairly popular, almost mainstream or fashionable. I believe that the adult diaper industry has been pushing this narrative in order to have a sizable increase in customers in the near future. Enjoy!",
"This guy wasn’t in a healthy state of mind and she leveraged her relationship with him. She’s 100% at fault. She said it herself. Coercing someone to give you their money despite their objections can be considered theft. Besides, money and a human life aren’t even on the same scale. I think the argument the defense lawyer made was a logical one, but it does ignore a lot of what actually happened and her sentencing is more a fault of the legislation and less a strength of the defense.",
"Not to be a bleeding heart but I sincerely hope you never face a situation like this. Keep an eye on your loved ones, especially the young. There is a social component to suicidal behaviour and it's not to be scoffed at. She may not have started the fire herself but she poured gasoline on it and fanned the flames.\n\nI hope her her time allows her to turn herself around.",
"TV in the 80s and 90s was very adamant that lawyers are super evil. And sure, some ambulance chasers can be. But people don't appreciate that someone has to present the best possible defense for anyone. If someone is innocent but no one believes them - not even the lawyer - and no one will argue for them, the system totally fails. You need people who are willing to argue the seemingly inarguable. The law is about the pursuit of the truth, not exacting mindless, emotional revenge. And if the truth can't defeat a liar's best defense or overcome an innocent person's worst defense, we can't know the truth.",
"Netflix.com",
"Damn, we just got clickbaited",
"Didn't they have Facebook messenger chats. I thought I rember seeing them a while ago.\n\nEdit it was texts. https://thetab.com/uk/2019/10/08/michelle-carter-texts-messages-128092",
"It requires an additional element, such as threat or intimidation. If you go to a shoe store, buy a pair of Nikes, ask the clerk if you can have a second pair for free, and he agrees, that’s not stealing, even if there is no real sale. Stores have buy one get one free deals all the time, and it’s normal to ask about sales or discounts. \n\nIf you do the same act while intimidating the store clerk with words, brandishing a weapon, or other means, then your crime becomes robbery, because even if the clerk voluntarily gives you the goods at that point, the goods were obtained under intimidation and threat. That’s a point the lawyer brings up in the video.",
"Google michelle carter documentary, I believe it is 2 episodes for 2 sides of the story",
"Yea",
"It doesn't end up being much different from a surgeon treating a person who has done bad things. Their history is not your focus. You have a job in front of you, and you do it clinically and meticulously, driven by the awareness that the job helps uphold rights for innocent people and for people who are guilty but don't deserve the punishment or scorn levied against them.\n\nThe much more stressful cases are those where you actually believe the client is innocent. There is a fear of fucking up in those cases that is deeply primal and personal.\n\nMost cases, though, you never know if tbe person did it or not. You are there to guide them through a process and do what they direct you to do. As long as they are not an asshole to you, it's fine. Some of them are raging assholes, and some of those raging assholes are innocent but they are so dysfunctional and mean to you that it overshadows their case. Those cases suck, in the same way that a surgeon will have a hard time with a belligerent patient who shows up and screams at them in all of their meetings.",
"Amazing how people always try to rationalize the actions of abusive women",
"A lawyer absolutely defends and takes the client’s side when he’s paid handsomely to do so, ex. corporate lawyers.",
"Yeah but he had already won at that point, because he got them to admit it wasn’t murder (20 years +) and in stead was involuntary manslaughter (11 months in this case). So anything further than that was just gravy.",
"HBO \"I love you, now die\"",
"The US is part of a treaty banning whaling. So there’s federal issues.",
"HBO \"I love you, now die\" is a fascinating documentary. I went back and forth quite a bit on if she was to blame or not. Super complex situation that still left me on the fence.",
"I’m not saying she was a saint. I just think putting all the blame on her while giving the parents a pass is misguided",
"Well said. We seem to have a larger instinct of wanting to pass on responsibility whenever the person with the most agency already suffered. And it's this weird conflagration of wishing we were better neighbors to each other and feeling like it's not justice unless we create new misery.\n\nI think if we look at her behavior outside of his decision to act on it, it resembles what I'd call \"extreme bullying\". And that probably needs attention and better laws. But I don't think it falls under manslaughter either.",
"Again, feels relatively mediocre. Successful? Sure. But not particularly impressive lawyering imo. Not bad, but I’d expect just about any lawyer to hit that one except maybe an overburdened public defender lol",
"Lawyer is attempting to over turn what they believe an overcharged client on a technicality . But the problem is that the client is pure evil. She may not have murdered someone in the classical sense but she showed absolutely no remorse and took no responsibility. Her texts nailed her to the wall. If she had remorse, learned something, tried make amends in some manner, she could have made plea deal. However she may be a sociopath that garners no sympathy in the courts.\n\nEdit: she only served 11 months. This lawyer did a good job.",
"Right, obviously after this they needed to create new laws to make it a crime. But can our judicial system punish a crime that isn't currently a crime? Can you punish for future crimes?",
"Michelle Carter looks like what you'd get if you took the worst parts of Rob Schneider and Brooke Shields and created offspring from it.",
"You won't believe these ten tips Tupperware doesn't want you to know ab- I think I got confused.",
"That's not the point - it's not so much the person you're defending, it's the entire justice system. If the defence didn't do their job, then the prosecution could just go to town on everyone. The defence ensures that due process is being followed for their client, and that if they are convicted then the sentence is appropriate for the crime.",
"If it is fair yes. That is literally case law no?",
"It's called \"The Judges Having None of It\"",
"Agreed - heads were nodding when he made the \"do it or else I'll make you\" argument about a physical presence.",
"Depends if there is precedent and whether context applies. Commonwealth laws are meant to be interpreted and applied to situations, they are not absolute.",
"But juries usually give women of non color origins much lighter sentences compared to males or colored people. It’s societal biase, but the statistics do not lie. Shameful really.",
"This is only an excerpt from oral argument from the defense on an appeal. You haven't seen the state's oral arguments in this clip. The responses from the judges are just some counter-arguments provided to flesh out the defense's point. The judges aren't actually playing a proper adversarial role in this clip. If you only hear from one side in oral arguments on an appeals case you're probably going to agree with it. A lot of people in this thread don't realize this, have essentially heard one side of the argument and have decided that they have a handle on the issues and are now arguing for the defense as if they've read the briefs from both sides lol. \n\nOne fundamental point to understand is that it is untenable for a legislature to create a specific statute to predict and restrict every unique arrangement of bad behavior that we want to restrict as a society. You need laws that are at least somewhat broad in order to have a system that works efficiently.",
"I knew nothing of our legal system until I went to law school. Our legal system is not intuitive whatsoever. Movies and tv show depicting the legal aystem are mostly bullshit btw.",
"She waived the jury in this case, I thought.",
"If anyone needs help with a whale law case, my brother can help. If you need assistance with a bird law case please PM",
"Google legal realism. The law isn't a sacred process that finds the truth, its an easily manipulated political process.",
"Just curious, what do you guys think of the song \"Jump\" by Van Halen?",
"He's not. This is another failing of the justice system. Because an arbitrary law doesn't exist in a book somewhere it doesn't count. Common sense and logic don't hold any weight I suppose.",
"Top 10 times judges had NONE OF IT. #7 will shock you!",
"Do you think school bullies should also go to prison for many years? What if the person being bullied kills themself because of the bullying? What if they kill themselves but the bullying was only one of the reasons why? What if they only try to kill themself but fail?",
"Honestly, I might get downvoted for this, but if it’s my son, I’m going to jail because of what I would do to this cunt. Justice system failed them, so vigilante justice is next. I couldn’t kill her, I don’t have that in my DNA, but I’d sure as shit beat her to within an inch of her life.",
"They literally had every text I think. Which is scary cause guess they never go away. Text that is.",
"Charlie, is that you? (Not that you could read this, since you're illiterate.)",
"Sentenced to 15 months, served 11.5.",
"Slippery slope argument. You're making a dozen strawmen with no bearing on what I said.\n\n\nThe lack of legislation around this is literally the takeaway for the whole post. It's not unreasonable to hope society should take encouraging suicide seriously to protect victims. It's getting progressively more common on social media, especially among teens and young adults.\n\nEdit: To satisfy some of what I think you're asking, I don't think 11 months is sufficient but she's also a minor so it's no light sentence either. She manipulated a guy into killing himself. He decided to stop then she convinced him back into the truck to suffocate. Over the phone. At 17, holy shit. School bullies don't do that here, idk about you. I am not aware if it's the case but she needs serious professional help.",
"Downvoted for clickbait BS title",
"Apply that to Rittenhouse, people's tunes change.",
"That’s how laws work though? Do you really think we would be better off if judgements were made based on how the judge felt about something?",
"The part when he talks about his little sister broke me.",
"Exactly. In fact I'm kind of surprised she got prison time at all due to 1a protections. I can tell you right now: hey, you should commit crime. If you choose to go do it, am I now responsible?",
"Is that you, Harvey?",
"Waiving the right to jury was incredibly smart imo. Jury would not think like the judges, they'd send her to the gallows. lol",
"We need to start using \"toxic femininity\" more often in the English lexicon",
"Interesting that you justified my answer with a response despite claiming it to be an instance of two different types of logical fallacy",
"For most defense lawyers, in order to do their job well, they make it more about winning, personal improvement, or something else that isn't related to their clients. It's very encouraged to stay detached for a lot of reasons, and in law school I actually heard about people not getting an internship with the public defender's office because they seemed too invested (which can lead to being overly friendly with clients, which can even be dangerous). One bad thing about this is that it can make lawyers look cold, but you kind of have to be if you don't want to get burned out as a defense lawyer in particular.",
"The lawyer has a point though, she wasn't there for force him back into the truck. Sure, she persuaded him into doing it but didn't force him. There has to be a differentiation in terms of law. \n\nShe's a piece of shit, however.",
"Also, juries don't generally determine sentencing. That's the judge's job (except in some circumstances, like determining whether or not the death penalty should be applied in many states)",
"Best heard it described as the lawyer isn't defending the client. They are ensuring the prosecution has done their job correctly. If the defendant is guilty and gets off, the prosecution is the one who messed up.",
"Yes, ur right about this. He did his honest best, he even knew the teenager was probably an awful person, but he argued the best way he could.\n\nWhats important is that the judges and jury made the right decision (to my knowledge). Most of my anger is not on the lawyer but on the girl. She killed him by exploiting his depression. She took advantage of his depression, which can easily be seen as a disability. \n\nIf the lawyer was lying and falsifying stuff, that’s something else. But, now, because of this lawyer inadvertently pointing out a potential flaw of the system, judges can later refine these rules so there is less ambiguity. The system theoretically corrects itself thus way, by finding devils advocates, and consequently bolstering what the law is, slowly making the law to model morality. Theoretically, because it depends on the judge and jury.",
"[OR at least have done this](https://www.theonion.com/judge-rules-white-girl-will-be-tried-as-black-adult-1819594949)",
"Seems like they were having “some” of it",
"That's not true at all, unless I missed one of your answers? Your second response is a series of questions, and your first response states that it was solely his fault and she shouldn't be held responsible. The comment you are responding to is talking about the intricacies of the law around this situation, while saying that she holds quiet a bit of responsibility. The only discussion of lighter sentencing is based on the fact she was a minor, not the opinion that because he commited suicide she bares no responsibility, when though she coaxed and encouraged him\n\nEdit: Grammar",
"Honestly, sometimes yes.\nThere are a ton of countries where awful things are legal but absolutely morally wrong.",
"Of course she was. She's a pretty little white girl who wasn't poor in America. Laws don't apply to her the same way they do other people.",
"Murca",
"Everyone has the right to a *fair* trial. Common misconception! Kind of like how since there are starving people in other countries we should *always* finish our plates, lest we waste food.",
"I didn't answer any of those random questions lol \nI just assumed what you were trying to say, suppose I got it right.",
"Needed a big red circle around the judge and someone with a mouth agape expression",
"One times court testimony lived rent free in our heads",
"The woman is a vile human being. However, if there is no law in place to prosecute her behavior, then her lawyer has to make that case. Also, how is this any different than anti-vaxers or those pushing holistic bullshit which convinces people to not seek medical attention? It may result in a slower, more painful death, but still can result in death. Same can be said about those who enable their partners drug abuse. It may not come across as reprehensible as Carter in this situation, but they are still contributing to the ultimate demise of another person.",
"You are absolutely correct you did not miss any of their responses.",
"Yeah and he’s making a pretty solid point all things considered. Obviously, I believe the law should take into account more subtle forms of coercion beyond plain threats like “or I’ll make you”, and that’s why I believe she should be prosecuted. But there is an argument to be made about where that like should be, clearly.\n\nPoint is, he’s doing his job without being disingenuous. Being very professional too. I also really wish she had actually gotten what she fucking deserved.",
"Thanks, my eyes started rolling before I even finished reading the title of this stupid shit post because at the end of the day the judge was having plenty of it. She got off… OP is a moron.",
"What a shitpost from a karma bot.",
"That chick is psychotic.",
"Did you not see her eyebrows? She might be the ugliest girl we have seen in at least 5 years in the news. The best punishment that came from this shit show was the massive bullying she received over her looks.",
"I would love 5 minutes with her!!",
"I love You Now Die",
"Let’s be honest, Rittenhouse wasn’t just some random dude with a gun. He was a warmonger. He wanted to kill people for shoplifting. He had a weapon. They were trying to disarm him, not kill him, because if they wanted to kill him, they would have brought their own guns. They were hippies. They saw a pudgy 17 year old with an assault rifle as a threat. \n\nYet, technically it’s self defense. It doesn’t matter, doesn’t LEGALLY matter, if Kyle earlier expressed wishes to hurt people. Someone did lunge at him first, and it doesn’t legally matter if the person who lunged at him was worried for the safety of others, and not trying to kill him. From what I understand, self-defense laws don’t necessarily need to put you in mortal peril. But that is an issue since if you punch someone in the face (or hit you with a skateboard), they’d be permitted to shoot you in the face. And that is a problem - do you know how hard it is to kill someone with a punch? You need to be repeatedly beating them in the head for minutes. You hear these stories of multiple cops savagely beating disabled people for half an hour. Yet suddenly a guy with a skateboard is more dangerous than the guy with a gun. \n\nThe other reason there is so much backlash is the double standard. Black people without guns, or even just anyone, like that dude who had to crawl before he was killed, are consistently shot to death. Then someone will argue, “but just because they got an unfair trial, doesn’t mean Rittenhouse does.”\n\nWhich is true, but this sentiment doesn’t seem to last long for other people, and the same people won’t give a fuck about Trayvon Martin. The outcome for Kyle would not seem as bad if the law treated others the same way.",
"Exactly. The lawyer is not there to believe his own words, it's to formulate the best defense he can for his client and then rest. I'm sure there have been millions of lawyers who go home and fume about how awful it is to represent their clients. I know several of them.",
"This conviction eroded everyone's 1A rights.\n\nThe circular reasoning used in judicial decisions, like *'Only a mentally ill person would have committed such a horrible crime, therefore we can know that the defendant is entitled to argue diminished capacity/responsibility..'* or *'Only a person with diminished capacity/responsibility would have committed suicide after being urged to over a phone, therefore we can know that the defendant was culpable in the death..'* is evidence that judges are not only fallible, but that some are actually stupid.\n\nWaaay too many people appear unable to distinguish between a moral wrong and what should be a legal act. Absent a proper finding that someone had diminished agency, and that the defendant knew that person had diminished agency, it should never be illegal to tell someone to kill themselves. Otherwise we need to charge everyone who says \"Kill yourself\" with at least reckless endangerment.\n\nAnd, the 18 year old *adult* lacked agency but the 17 year old *minor* actually controlled both of them, by phone, by words alone? This verdict wasn't based on law, facts, and reason - it was based on the judges' outraged morality, the political pressure of an outraged public, and the unlikability of the defendant.",
"> She actually told his parents that he needed help and he was suicidal. They ignored her. He was also extremely abusive.\n> \n> \n> \n> She tried to break up with him and get him help many times before this particular incident.\n> \n> \n> \n> Every time she tried to break up with him, he threatened suicide. The parents knew. \n\nwhat part of that is her being abusive?",
"Read the title of the post you're commenting on",
"Finally somebody understood the video",
"Seems fair, after all she sent him to the gas chamber.",
"If they make a movie about this they better cast Cara Delevingne.",
"A lawyer argues the clients side. They do not have to believe what they are arguing.",
"He did his job well enough. This piece of trash was only sentenced 2 1/2 years in prison. She only served 11 months.",
"Yes and the lawyer can get sued for malpractice if they don’t do they best possible job.",
"So here's the thing for a lot of people justifiably upset about this Lawyer defending her actions and the judges not shooting everything he says down as pure nonsense. The lawyer is professionally, ethically and legally required to make the a reasonable case for their client no matter how deplorable they are, and you should be happy that that is the case. Part of our philosophy of justice is that all accused persons deserve to have their case plead because absolutely no one is guilty of a crime until the verdict is rendered, nor should they be. It is on the prosecutor to prove guilt of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. The idea being that no one should ever be punished for a crime they did not commit and thus it is on the state to prove that a criminal statute was violated beyond reasonable doubt. And that's the other rub, it must be a criminal statute, something as codified into law. One cannot be imprisoned for an action found to be reprehensible by some (or most) if the legislative body of the state has not agreed to criminalize that action. As the lawyer said, most states at this point had laws on record pertaining exactly to such a circumstance, of encouraging suicide, and criminalized the act. Massachusetts was not one of them. So he is perfectly justified in arguing on behalf of his client that she broke no such law as it did not exist in the given state.\n\nAs for the judges, they are not legislators that set the laws, they can only interpret the laws as they are written and judge whether a defendant has violated them as written. I have little doubt the judges in this case were looking to make sure she was held accountable, but they cannot do so on a whim. They may only do so with the backing of the codified laws provided by the legislature. So their apparent \"agreement\" with the judge when he talks about how there is no statute that criminalizes encouragement of suicide in Massachusetts was not that they thought she should go free but acknowledgement that the law did not explicitly cover such an area, because it doesn't there. The one judge playing thought experiments is trying to formulate an interpretation of the situation such that her actions are not at minimum manslaughter and clearly came up empty. He was doing so for the same reason I mentioned above, that we are all innocent until proven beyond reasonable doubt that we are guilty. He could not find any such reasonable doubt.\n\nHer conviction was light compared to her crime. It wasn't justice. But the fault there lies with the gaps in the criminal codes. This was the fault of the congress of Massachusetts. Everyone did exactly as they were supposed to and went as far as they could have with what they had to work with. This is why subjects like bullying and suicide are acts that should be taken up with your representatives. Laws should be passed so reprehensible acts like this do not go with light or no punishment.",
"I've never seen anyone saying he was \"extremely abusive\", other than you.",
"I mean maybe not all lawyers are evil but the last lawyer I had sent me a 700$ bill for paying my 5000$ bill in person",
"I think this lawyer is doing a distasteful but necessary job very responsibly. \n\nThere is also the fact that with the way law works in the US, sometimes the first handful of people to do a very clearly and obviously WRONG thing get away with it, cause it may be wrong, but it’s not illegal. Because of their actions new laws may be passed that then make it illegal, but if it wasn’t when they did it, then their consequences must be social, not legal. \n\nThis girl deserves to be a pariah for the rest of her days, but it really does seem like she did not technically break any laws.",
"“We can’t make it a crime retroactively” ummm is this not how we set precedent?",
"I tend to agree. This is free speech. She isn’t coercing him or blackmailing him. She’s just telling him what she thinks he ought to do.\n\nPeople tell people to kill themselves every day online. Is it now going to be a crime? I agree with the lawyer who states that a physical threat implies coercion, and therefore a criminal offence. But when faced with simple words, we can take a phone call as the same as an online post. Imagine I post “everyone should kill themselves because the world is ending soon”. If even 1 person commits suicide because of this, I should go to jail? I don’t think that’s right.",
"seemed like the comment told more of the story and not as clear cut as the title made it",
"It's false information. He wasn't \"extremely abusive\", I don't think anyone has ever said that before. It's just a random redditor making shit up.",
"Absolutely. The lawyer was just doing their job; they have to struggle jealously for every possible advantage, and have an answer for everything. \n\nDon't hate the player, folks, hate the game.",
"This is Allie McBeal, I took some post grad courses after coming across Charlie’s litigations.",
"Quick side-question from someone outside the US: \nAt several points we hear them mention that something is/isn't illegal in the State of Massachusetts. If the incident had happened in a different State (where it is illegal) would this case be over in a matter of minutes? \nAlso, how come every(?) State seems to have its own laws/regulations? Is it not possible to have standardised laws across the entire USA? If not, why not? \n(I'm not trying to cause any arguments here. I'm genuinely curious about how a something can be a crime in one State but not a crime if committed a mile away.)",
"if you feel the citizens on a jury are not good enough, you have the option not using a jury and having the judge be....the judge.",
"Right, and he did his job responsibly. If he was a sleazy asshole who lied, or tried to use some emotional sob story to sway judgement, I'd be mad.\n\nHis defense was never \"my client did nothing bad\" his defense was \"The law is stupid, and you should change it\" You can tell in his tone he wants to see it addressed as much as anyone.",
"A new law that applies to an already committed act is called an Ex Post Facto law. The US constitution prohibits federal or state Ex Post Facto laws effectively making them impossible.",
"What an absolutely heartless doesn’t even begin to describe how awful a person they are to do that",
"> do you not see how this statement justifies her behavior to an extent?\n\nNo, because I don't interpret the inclusion of nuance as an insult to my contrived moral absolutes. If you're not capable of understanding the difference between murder and what she did then I'm speaking to a child. \n\n> read his whole comment, he also brings up how she told him to get help multiple times\n\nYou mean he tells the truth multiple times? And you interpret it as a defense of her, for some reason (probably because refusing to see the world through any lens other than pure good vs. pure evil is just an easier way to live)? \n\nStop projecting your moral insecurity onto the rest of us. You're allowed to just not have an opinion if you don't want to consider the complexity of a situation. \n\nAnd just to get ahead of it: me saying you're wrong here isn't the same thing as saying what she did was right.",
"You won’t believe what happens next",
"You're missing the deceit part. If they say give me money and you get nothing in return, and you do it, it's your fault. If they say give me money and I give you goods or services, and they don't, that's a scam. Or if they threaten you i.e the IRS will arrest you if you don't give us amazon giftcards or whatever.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nJust asking isn't a scam, buskers and panhandlers aren't scamming you if you toss a coin in their hat.",
"Yeah that’s fluff billing. You also generally can dispute the charges you’re given if you think they’re unreasonable. At the end of the day they’re a business and they want to optimize profits, but often good will is worth more than hourly billing.\n\nSource: I work at a law firm and we cut billing all the time to please clients.",
">The American Revolution started over ~~taxes~~ taxation without representation\n\nFTFY",
"I just didn’t pay it.",
"There ya go. The fact they didn’t try to pursue any action against you, even just demand letters, suggests they knew it was bullshit too.",
"Brooklyn 99 was still doing it before they canned.",
"There's also the flip side to consider: if they were to punish exercising free speech where is the line?\n\nI mean, maybe you're a jerk to someone and then they take their own life. Is that jail-worthy? Or if someone writes in a suicide note \"my boss is an asshole\"? Not answering a call on purpose?\n\nThere's some thick legal ground to cover there, which is the job of the legislature. Otherwise you just have judges punishing people arbitrarily, which isn't just, and is ripe for abuse.",
"Interesting information. I'm not seeing that side of the story anywhere else. Can you provide a source?",
"> IF an existing law could bend enough that it would qualify, which it doesn't\n\nExcept that this trial resulted in a Guilty verdict with a charge of involuntary manslaughter. The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court upheld this verdict in 2019 citing criminal intent, and the US Supreme Court declined the case in 2020 - holding to the Massachusetts' court findings.\n\nThe existing laws do and did bend to the extent needed to hold Michelle Carter Guilty of events that lead to the death of Conrad Roy.",
"nah not for criminal penalties any more. the old days they used to be able to make a new common law crime but at some point they stopped the practice, putting that power solely to the legislatures",
">Except that this trial resulted in a Guilty verdict with a charge of involuntary manslaughter.\n\nYes, because it was the only law that was somewhat applicable. It is not however the law that should've been in place. So, the existing law did not provide the kind of a sentence that justice required.",
"They didn’t even throw shade. That was a reasonable discussion on the merits of the case.\n\nI forgot for a moment on a sensationalism joke thread.",
"Charging her with voluntary manslaughter instead of involuntary manslaughter would be absurd. Make sure you understand the legal definitions and use them in these instances. She voluntary sent those texts, but that still makes it involuntary manslaughter.\n\n>To prove that the defendant is guilty of involuntary manslaughter because of wanton or reckless conduct, the Commonwealth must prove the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt:\n\n>The defendant caused the victim's death\n\n>The defendant intended the conduct that caused the victim's death\n\n>The defendant's conduct was wanton or reckless\n\nhttps://www.mass.gov/info-details/model-jury-instructions-on-homicide-vii-involuntary-manslaughter\n\nhttps://www.mass.gov/info-details/model-jury-instructions-on-homicide-vi-voluntary-manslaughter-lesser-included-offense-to-murder\n\n>In this case, the defendant is charged with voluntary manslaughter. To prove the defendant guilty of voluntary manslaughter, the Commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the following elements:\n\n>The defendant intentionally inflicted an injury or injuries on the victim likely to cause death.",
"You make sure the state does its job ethically and within the bounds of the law so that when it's someone you like, they are more likely to do it ethically, within the bounds of the law.",
"I was only intending to point out the ironic sound of that phrasing in the given situation.\n\nHowever, through your own definitions you have proven she lies in a grey area in between those 2 charges.\n\nInvoluntary manslaughter means the defendant intended the *conduct* that was wanton or reckless. This makes the assumption that the defendant did not specifically intend a death, but caused it through intended wreckless action.\n\nHowever, in this case the defendant did intentionally cause (or at minimum, heavily contribute to) the defendants death. That is closer to the definition of Voluntary Manslaughter. Definitely not an clean cut example, but certainly in a grey area.",
"You work at a law firm and $700 for an in person appearance (including prep/correspondence it sounds like) is fluff billing? Good on you i suppose but that sounds pretty typical to me.",
"Source of these claims?",
"Judges hate this ONE trick lawyers use",
"Source of these claims?",
"So it’s kosher in your law firm to bill someone $700 just for showing up to your office to hand over a $5000 check for services rendered? What kind of slimy smarmy disgusting office do you work in...?",
">Carter’s lawyers claimed messages that showed the teen urging her boyfriend to seek professional help were conveniently abandoned\n\n>\tRoy’s family was certainly satisfied with the eventual verdict\nIf she was truly solely responsible, why are the parents okay with such a light sentence? Why did the go on Dr Oz and cry blaming her, then ok with her slap on the wrist?\n\nhttps://allthatsinteresting.com/michelle-carter-conrad-roy\n\n>\t“alternately kind of mean to her, kind of sweet to her, kind of negging her, for most of the relationship.\"\n>\tA month before Roy took his life, Carter tried to talk Roy into getting help for his suicidal thoughts.\n>\t\"The mental hospital would help you,\" Carter texted Roy. \"I know you don't think it would but I'm telling you, if you give them a chance, they can save your life.\"\n\nhttps://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/how-did-michelle-carterconrad-roy-know-each-other\n\n>\t“I believe some of his Dad & his family members have blood on their hands,” Lynn Roy texted Carter less than a month after her son’s death.\n\nhttps://www.boston.com/news/crime/2019/07/08/michelle-carter-hbo-documentary/",
"I took the original post as paying the client's $5,000 bill (presumably a fine or bail bondsman) in person on behalf of the client. That's what I mean when I reference a personal appearance.",
"I took it as the lawyer had to set aside 20 minutes to small talk with a client that they just finished up work for instead of an eft or something.",
"Clients paying in person is pretty rare, but charging a client who came to pay is even more rare. Would be bizarre if that was the case. OP's tone rang to me like \"I had to pay my lawyer XXX just to show up on my behalf and it musta taken them a whopping 10 minutes\".",
"Not necessarily, and that is why precedence matters. Now that she was found guilty of that charge, anyone else committing her same actions could be found guilty under the same law due to the precedence set here in this case. This court determined that her actions do fall under involuntary manslaughter.",
"I'm not a lawyer but I like to read into law related topics. The way I look at it is, there are TONS of grey areas when it comes to law and this is no exception. There are times where situations occur and they are so specific or complex that no one even thinks to address it until it happens. I think its important to set precedents with regards to these little grey areas to prevent them from happening again. \n\nAt the end of the day, we aren't talking about some 12 year old kid telling a stranger to kill themselves over Xbox live. This woman had a serious influence on someone who was going through a mental health crisis and she used that to guide him along to his demise.\n\nThe question is, would this boy have committed suicide if she hadn't coaxed him into it? The answer is absolutely not. That alone makes me believe that she deserves the jail time that she got and the bad rep. to her name.",
"Yes, that is how it works but... does not mean there should not be a specific law for making someone commit suicide, which the sentence has to be harsher than involuntary manslaughter. The latter, by definition, is involuntary where as here.. this was deliberate.",
"> I’m not saying she’s a saint, but he was unwell and abusive too. She told his parents. They ignored her. She was in high school at the time. If the adults are ignoring you, what do you do about that point?\n\nNot tell him to kill himself?",
"Damn you're a douche lol",
"I love seeing our people wake up. Keep our government and country responsible, get the fuck out of others. We aren't maintaining peace or democracy - we're maintaining global supremacy for Corporatocracy.",
">No, because I don't interpret the inclusion of nuance as an insult to my contrived moral absolutes\n\nat what point did you determine i was insulted? that is bizarre to assume\n\n>You mean he tells the truth multiple times? And you interpret it as a defense of her, for some reason\n\nLol? For some reason? How are you confused about this? He is literally defending her behavior more than once in his comment. it doesn't matter if hes \"telling the truth multiple times\", nobody said he wasnt, its the fact that he brought it up. or did you think he stated that information for absolutely no reason? obviously he was saying it to defend her, same reason he ends his comment by saying shes not as bad as people think she is.\n\n>Stop projecting your moral insecurity onto the rest of us.\n\nyour reddit psychology is so fucking weak lmaooo im not even gonna bother - it will go nowhere as these are just your very poor interpretations - try sticking to the actual topic, you're doing a poor job of psychoanalyzing and it's doing nothing for the topic",
"It's the opening scene of the series Better Call Saul. It's on Netflix.",
"> The guy was persuaded to commit suicide. Good or bad, the guy decided to do it. She did not force him to do it. It’s inconsistent that we hold the woman responsible for her poor choice to persuade him, whilst we take agency away from the guy who did it to himself. How come she had a choice but he didn’t?\n\n\nShe had a choice because nobody was whispering her ear in a moment of extreme emotional distress and vulnerability telling her to convince her boyfriend to kill himself.",
"She did…. That’s literally my point…. Can you read?\n>\tA month before Roy took his life, Carter tried to talk Roy into getting help for his suicidal thoughts.\n>\t\"The mental hospital would help you,\" Carter texted Roy. \"I know you don't think it would but I'm telling you, if you give them a chance, they can save your life.\"\n\nhttps://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/how-did-michelle-carterconrad-roy-know-each-other",
"This information makes me think about her actions very differently. She was a minor who was put in the impossible situation of \"break up with me and I'll kill myself\". That combined with the fact that she did try to get him to get help makes me think that 11 months was not too short of a sentence. Given that she was a minor, she might deserved even less (I'm strongly against treating minors like adults in court). She's not capable of adult level judgement and she even tried to do the right thing before she did the absolutely nightmarish thing she did in the end.",
"Obviously what she did wasn’t right, but yea, she’s not an adult. And she *did* try to get him help before the final event. \n\nBtw huge fan lol",
"The way that I've seen it presented is: \n\nThe state prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendent is guilty. It is the defense counsel's job to make sure that it is indeed beyond a reasonable doubt and challenge at every step of the way in order to fotify that notion. If the defendent is found guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, the defense did its job. If the defendent is found innocent, the defense did its job.",
"> at what point did you determine i was insulted? that is bizarre to assume\n\nthe part where you got angry\n\n> Lol? For some reason? How are you confused about this? He is literally defending her behavior more than once in his comment. it doesn't matter if hes \"telling the truth multiple times\", nobody said he wasnt, its the fact that he brought it up. or did you think he stated that information for absolutely no reason? obviously he was saying it to defend her, same reason he ends his comment by saying shes not as bad as people think she is.\n\nNo, he brought it up because people (i.e., you) were having an aneurism about how this chick is a murderer. He was introducing nuance to people expressing the moral intelligence of children. \n\n> your reddit psychology is so fucking weak lmaooo im not even gonna bother - it will go nowhere as these are just your very poor interpretations - try sticking to the actual topic, you're doing a poor job of psychoanalyzing and it's doing nothing for the topic\n\nsure thing champ, you're definitely not morally insecure despite your inability to interpret criticism as anything other than a direct attack on your moral absolutes",
"I would be upset if a redditor thought anything else",
"He would repeatedly threaten to kill himself if she broke up with him. She previously encouraged to seek psychiatric help, and told his parents about his suicidal thoughts and claims. They did nothing.",
"Lol it doesn't justify that she then told him to kill himself you dumb ass.",
"She was a child. With mental health problems. She went to the adults. \n\nI also CLEARLY stated that she’s obviously no saint. She was wrong, however she did actually try to get him help, so she’s also not completely terrible. \n\nI’ll ask you again. Can you read? Or is it simply your reading comprehension that’s lacking?",
"Lol",
"I don’t know boys, a one night stand with her could easily get you killed. That’ll be a pass for me.",
"She also told a suicidal person to get back into the truck and finish the job. She then told friends that she COULD have stopped it, but didn't.",
"Indeed, OP misrepresented the situation. \n\nLawyer was doing their job. One hard ass judge was being less professional in a devil's advocate approach.\n\nMany people don't understand this format. Lawyers for each side (usuallt) get such Socratic pushback from the appeal bench.",
"I find I have to do so a lot on Reddit, as there's an undereducated, mob mentality. \n\nOnce the hivemind decides they hate some person or some position, all sorts of things go out the window. Laws, constitution, logic, sense, evidence, facts, objectivity. \n\nOne recent example was a topic relating to one of the world living human beings, the former president and leader of a domestic terror cult. Someone was spreading a hoax about his finances. While it should be obvious I dislike and fear him as all sane people should, I pointed out some factual aspects of his finances. Hiveminders \"we're having it\" and among other responses, I got PM harassment in which Reddit administration had to get involved.\n\nI don't see it as defending \"someone I hate\". I see it as defending truth, and due process, and justice, and facts. The person attached to that is almost immaterial.",
">she ended his life and freedom so she doesn't deserve to have a life of freedom to live either.\n\nGo back to the Middle Ages.",
"yeah i'm sure you get off the computer and suddenly become a likeable person lmaooo. \n\nso pretentious, every comment you make screams redditor. please don't act like you're above it",
"Same reason why surgeons need to be dispassionate. You don't want to see the body on the operating table as a human being, you want to see it as a problem to be solved. Thinking about them as a person will only stress you tf out and make you more likely to make an error.",
"No",
"Lol, it's hilarious that you think it is a state that borders the ocean. It is a completely landlocked state",
"If we wrote a specific law for everything someone could do wrong, it would be awful. Currently it's impossible for cops or lawyers to know all the laws, and in certain areas of the law even the lawyers with that specialty are never expected to know all the laws because there are so many. Do you know how easily a law can be written in a way that causes it to be applied in ways other than the lawmakers' intentions? The current laws are perfectly fine and all you have to do is expand the sentencing guidelines a bit or shift the definition of wanton and reckless to also apply to voluntary manslaughter. The idea that there needs to be a specific law against just encouraging someone to commit suicide is fucking retarded.",
"Personally, i don't think your wife likes or loves you.",
"Keep stalking my profile, it’s the second time you creepy Reddit kid. Be jealous. :) <3\n\nKeep trying someday you will maybe eventually be able to trade your anime pillow in for a real woman. She may end up being a 2/10 but it’s all about the bond.",
"Jealous? Of you? Lmao nah just bemused by your constant, nonstop assholery. I get it, reddit is a great place to vent and be an anonymous douche. You're great at it too",
"She's a degenerate"
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After convincing her boyfriend to commit suicide, and having a 40-minute phone call with him convincing him to get back in the lethal gas-filled car when he had doubts over killing himself, Michelle Carter's lawyer tries to convince the judges she wasn't at fault, with the judges having none of it.
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"This deserves more eyeballs. Very funny!",
"Ben is super funny and I think has been killing it as a writer on snl along with his two friends in their Please Don’t Destroy channel",
"Where was the please don't destroy from last night!!!",
"More bots in the comments, but I'm on it. I wrangled and had about 20 of them banned yesterday. Now that I can easily recognize and report them easily, they're done.",
"Love it",
"Is it better to have the CEO never show his face and just have your direct manager tells you that you are fired?",
"How do you tell a bot from someone just earnestly showing affection towards something they like..?",
"I got laid off in a Zoom call this year by the VP of our company. It was super weird. I had rather just been told in a private conversation with my boss. It was also just so sad trying to see everyone keep it together.",
"They're fucking done! I'm telling MOoooooOOm!",
"I'll give you an upvote out of pity, since I know you were legitimately trying to make a joke, and it simply fell flat. Don't let it convince you to never try, man. They can't all be zingers. ;)",
"What",
"???",
"I think it was a good joke",
"At least you can still downvote on reddit.",
"For starters, their names usually follow patterns. In the case of this latest flood, it's two English words, followed by a number, usually separated with underscores and/or dashes. Once you know the pattern, they become trivial to identify by just looking at a thread. There's at least 3 bots in this one: Careless-Parsley-553, Capable-Captain-5573, and Last-Ad6184. \n \nThey're also not very sophisticated. All they do is copy one of the more recent Youtube comments, so their entire comment history will be in threads that link to Youtube videos. Take one of the bot's comments, go to the corresponding Youtube video and scroll down, you'll be able to find a perfect match fairly quickly.",
"FYI - you’re replying to a bot.",
"It was accidentally destroyed",
">Once you know the pattern, they become trivial to identify by just looking at a thread. There's at least 3 bots in this one: Careless-Parsley-553, Capable-Captain-5573, and Last-Ad6184\n\nWhen you make a new reddit account atm you get usernames in that format. It doesn't mean their bots, it means they're new accounts with auto-generated usernames.",
"That explains some things, but the odds of there being a new reddit user that just went with an auto-generated name commenting alongside the bots are pretty infinitesimal. I've yet to see any false positives.",
"Well done fellow human",
"I really want to know what vocoder he used",
"I love the commitment to the autotune except for the slap. Absolute perfection.",
"beep-beep-boop-beeep",
"For now...but the IPO might change that eventually.",
"I have now seen a single false positive and dozens of bots following the same pattern.",
"So what's the point of these spots? What are they trying to push?",
"Is this real or a joke?",
"I'm just guessing, but I suspect the point is to build a credible looking comment history. Most people won't check if some random account's comments are just copied from Youtube, so they seem like a legitimate user.",
"I don't care who fires me, but if they call me into work to do it instead of just doing it over zoom, I will take it personally. Don't make me commute in just to get canned and grampa-simpson my way out.",
"> the odds of there being a new reddit user that just went with an auto-generated name commenting alongside the bots\n\nyou just described like 45% of real human redditors that joined in the past 2 years.",
"I welcome you to go to a random comment thread and find a bunch of users that fit my criterion but aren't bots.",
"Honestly, it’s better to receive the mass layoff via Zoom than to be called in to a zoom call 4 or 5 at a time to be laid off by a middle manager. 🤷🏻♂️\n\nRip off the bandaid, take your severance, get the fuck out and find something new.",
"why would I put in that effort when you could easily see the same thing if you weren't on a crusade against bots?",
"The question I'd ask is why you're defending so many accounts who clearly are bots. It's not like there is significant doubt. You can confirm it within minutes.",
"Human target identified.",
"ah but, did they also lay off your boss? So they had to go up levels until they got to someone they were not dropping?",
"No, my boss got to stay. She knew about the layoff for 3 months before we were told. In hindsight, it made sense as she stopped showing up to our daily huddles and when she did she was quiet. I don’t blame her, she built the team and I guess this is the 2nd time she had built a team and then laid them off.",
"Getting mad Anders vibes here",
"Yeah I agree. I don't think zoom in principle is bad for this sort of thing if you are working remote anyway.",
"When we had layoffs across the company, I believe those impacted were told by our direct boss, and then the VP held a meeting to share details from the perspective of the company as a whole for why it was happening. That's probably the best way to go about it IMO.",
"It’s a sketch.",
"I get the idea of the joke. Just not funny.",
"It's a roke.",
"70% of views are laughing\n\n30% are not.",
"I am just roking with you.",
"Finally, someone took a concept like thousands of people getting fired and made it FUNNY!! /s",
"What value do these bot accounts have? Not doubting you for a second, just genuinely curious. Perhaps they could all upvote a product/political advertisement?",
"My expertise begins and ends with being able to read comments on two different sites so I can only speculate, but yeah, using them to give specific posts upvotes and comments to simulate engagement is probably the end goal.",
"Yeap. One job i was at work for an hour and they called me in to fire me. Had to walk past everyone I was just working with trying not to cry."
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Boss announcing mass layoffs over zoom
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https://youtu.be/31GpUsxAk5g
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[
"don't show your licence plate number on the internet",
"Ah yeah I'm a silly goose. Good thing I'm getting a new one asap",
"Auto Farts\n\n10/10",
"Haha yeah. I'm a child."
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I wanted to share and receive constructive criticism, I'm new to this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJxyTgLjIB8
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[
"I want one, lol. Its amazing how good that screen looks for being so small, and even has controls.",
"It's so tiny! What is the original purpose of an LCD display that small?",
"I don't even know what to say.",
"It's probably for a smart watch.",
"Really cool but a bit of clever editing to obscure the power cables as the hanging wire",
"What do you mean “clever editing? He said that the power cables were the hanging string in the video.",
"Agreed, the video creator was very clear on that. Personally I thought it was a cool trick, given how tiny the ornament is.",
"I see they are testing the waters on the Switch Classic edition already!"
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Making a TINY Nintendo Switch Christmas ornament. Cycles through a library of GIFs. Connects to WiFi to play gifs of choice on Christmas day
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"Past DECADE?? I watch this every morning religiously",
"The best way to start your day",
"blue his house with a blue little window",
"love this version of the song:\nhttps://youtu.be/aJCNx3_jj1A",
"90s trash",
"I always wondered how much this video cost. On the one hand, green screen and CGI wasn’t as cheap and easy as it is today and music videos had much bigger budgets. On the other…it’s pretty rudimentary."
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"24 minutes of you driving your side by side through dead/muddy woodlands. Cool I guess, but not 'crazy' as your title implies. Also, the lake is only in frame for like 10-20 seconds of the whole video. Why is that the title of the post and not \"me driving my side by side through the woods around lake \\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\" or something? Nice try with the bait title.",
"Sorry you feel that way, but thank you for watching. I am just starting out and self teaching myself everything. Also the title isnt what you suggested it was so apparently you didnt read it or even take the time to read the description of video.. All good any feed in my eyes is good feed back, So with that said thanks for watching and I'm sorry its not to your liking I will be making more and hopefully you enjoy the next one....",
"The title of your post on here is \"Crazy HUGE SULFUR LAKE\". The title is what grabs people's attention. So when I clicked the video and didnt see a \"crazy HUGE SULFUR LAKE\" except for maybe 10 seconds after scrubbing through the video to try and purposefully find it, you can imagine why I'm being vocal about the title of this post being disingenuous.",
"Ah ok, I see what ya mean now.. my apologies didnt mean to create conflict from a post here to the video title.... Sorry for the inconvenience..",
"No conflict, just a bit of healthy criticism",
"Thank you, it helps.. Specially with all that goes into filming, editing, uploading, and technically promoting. Thank you again."
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Crazy HUGE SULFUR LAKE
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[
"This looks amazing. Lol",
"Although his vocabulary was highly limited, Bigfoot was an incredibly loving yet strict step father to Wildboy, keeping him away from the dangers of drugs and alcohol.",
"No cocaine was being used during this shows creation",
"Is this the same Bigfoot that had the $6 million man tie-in? The running and jumping effects are almost exactly the same.",
"[Andre the giant ( aka Bigfoot ) vs Bionic Man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JEPhP2X9f0)",
"How did I miss this!!!???"
] | 11 |
videos
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Bigfoot and Wildboy Theme (Intro & Outro)
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https://youtu.be/Yz3Hb2dAhmA
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/r/videos/comments/rkdzrt/epic_moment_a_woman_handles_an_aggressive_male/
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[
"I have the utmost respect for these security folks but at some point I'd have to ask myself if my safety is worth saving a few bucks for a big corporation.",
"She’s not security. She works in the deli! This store gets so much crap, I think she just had enough.",
"Even worse.",
"Even Cheddarwurst.",
"It was book night and Sex in the City bing night, what else was he supposed to do",
"The answer is no. It is never worth it. They likely don't make enough for it to be worth it. They probably don't have health insurance through the company. The company would probably not pay for your hospital visit if you were injured in a scuffle. People have been fired for trying to apprehend a shoplifter.\n\nIf someone is stealing, you shrug as they leave and let the manager call the police.",
"I did that LP job for a while, hated it when people would steal liquor. Most shoplifters were harmless but a few wanted to fight, and you’re right, we **weren’t** paid enough for this shit and there were too many limitations as to what you can do. It’s definitely changed. I’d never do that job now.",
"[$16 a bottle](https://www.totalwine.com/wine/red-wine/cabernet-sauvignon/decoy-by-duckhorn-red/p/5205750). What a scumbag. The criminal justice system is failing to keep people like this locked up. We need harsher punishments.",
"The wine was called Decoy. I wonder if he was smart enough to have an accomplice to rob something of value, while he acted as *put on sunglasses* the Decoy! *yyyyeeeaaaaaaaaaaawww*",
"America is so ridiculous",
"She deserves a raise.",
"Id stop someone and shag them for their bag for fun.",
"Look, we’re all collectively tired of bullshit like this. The dude’s an asshole who wants to steal stuff. Getting workers involved means people possibly getting hurt even if they’re armed. Any veteran with their salt will tell you the best ending to a bad situation are the ones that avoid violence, and reasonable deterrents don’t work on unreasonable folks.\n\nRather than having fights in supermarkets, we clean up the streets by helping those that can back up on feet and by cordoning off those that can’t. I’m not saying to throw them in prison, but to start hiring folks who can help others unravel their problems. Spend some collective money to get crazy folks away from spots that cause clashes in normal situations.",
"Very Brave!",
"Those are all decoys! Check his pockets too!",
"Yeah cause she's working at a high end retailer in San Francisco where those types of robberies are happening right?",
"Can we somehow pin this comment on /r/wtf /r/gifs and /r/videos?",
"Don't put your safety in jeopardy for a fucking supermarket. Just let people steal. It isn't worth your safety.",
"Does she want to be my sister?",
"Especially if said merch is made of heavy bottles of glass, I agree",
"I mean it kinda is and to act like it's a widespread enough problem that this lady is worried about it at a grocery is pretty disingenuous"
] | 21 |
videos
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Epic moment a Woman handles an aggressive male shoplifter!
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https://youtu.be/zhsk16sPM84
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/r/videos/comments/rkek83/early_2000s_wtf_macs_convenience_stores_ad/
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[
"I’m offended—by the annoying music.",
"How would this even be a thing",
"Early 2000s were wild",
"*R Kelly has entered the chat*",
"/r/WTF",
"Yo what the fuck",
"Mildly ASMR",
"Did..did she just drink a cup of maple syrup?",
"Drip drip drip.",
"I have to watch it again... You know... for science.",
"I find it pretty easy to see the misery behind these women’s eyes.",
"r/unintentionalASMR",
"t.A.T.u's \"All the Things She Said\" was at number 20 on the US Billboard Hot 100 at the time, so I guess we should not be too surprised.",
"All this just to advertise that Mac's was now serving fresh orange juice as part of their breakfast menu.",
"I've never seen a Mac's commercial. They got taken over by Circle K who sucks.",
"You act like they were forced to do this. They chose to do this ad.",
"I only found out recently that their whole thing was just an act. And the Raven headed girl, is really fucked up. But the red-headed girl apparently has a career and has a nice singing voice",
"Now TV ads just have dudes kissing",
"We are now in the back swing of the pendulum towards conservativism but at the time this was made it appeared we heading towards a liberal utopia and there were more, and more severe, instances of shows and marketing like this.",
"Is this what makers of Japanese commercials are trying to outweird? That would explain a lot...",
"THAT'S NOT WHERE ORANGE JUICE COMES FROM!",
"Circle K and Mac's are both owned by Alimentation Couche-Tard, based in Quebec. Mac's changed to Circle K as part of a re-branding. Couche-tard is known for their weird \"sloche\" (basically slush puppies) flavors, including:\n\n \\- Liposuccion (actual flavor passion fruit)\n\n \\- Winchire Wacheur (windshield washer), formerly Crushed smurf",
"They're actually [still releasing music as t.A.T.u.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-u23g2CkQM&ab_channel=tatu)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: As someone pointed out, this is apparently not a newer song. I'm an idiot.",
"When I was in high school they had a red colored one called \"Sang froid\" (cold blood) and instead of a cup you could fill a specially made blood bag.",
"Looooooooooong maaaaaan",
"Well technically it would be sap since syrup is made through an arduous process of boiling off the water content in sap.",
"That is an old video updated to 4k \n\nFrom 2008 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOcmSsBfafg",
"Not saying that they are miserable, but it's possible to choose to do something while at the same time be miserable. Think anyone who needed money ever.",
"What country did this run in?",
"IIRC people heads would explode when women kissed in the early 2000s, and it was sort of a fad in tv and movies.",
"It’s Canadian",
"Call it WTF but whatever they're selling I am buying.",
"Exactly, lots of people offended by this commercial I think would be unhappy to know they're now in full agreement with conservative Christians and anyone else freaked out by sex and homosexuality.",
"This made me repulse.Indeed a WTF. Fucking gross, that's what...",
"For those who enjoyed this video, there are many more in this series. Here are a few:\n\n[hoseleg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDJS-XNhBj4)\n\n[unicorns](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPzCCuMcuWk)\n\n[egg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tLxMV-GMYE)",
"No, that dude's piss.",
"I’m not entirely sure what’s being sold here…..",
"Like in the movie Wild Things. That movie took me from being a boy to a man.",
"I'm not sure either, but commercials typically don't make my penis move.",
"Oh my head exploded alright"
] | 41 |
videos
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Early 2000s WTF mac's convenience stores ad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt47299v64s
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/r/videos/comments/rkey1j/90s_commercials_from_the_dotcom_bubble/
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[
"Library? Kayak? Buddies?",
"In some alternate dimension Lycos.com became the giant evil megacorporation.",
"Man, this brings back so many memories. It was such a simpler time back then. I honestly never thought the internet would be more than a fad back then. We just kinda figured it was as good as it was gonna get."
] | 3 |
videos
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90's COMMERCIALS FROM THE DOT-COM BUBBLE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEHyt1t9sHw
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/r/videos/comments/rkfbkm/first_production_hummer_ev_pickup_edition_1_rolls/
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[
"It’s weird. It’s just weird. I know it’s just a big toy for people with money to burn. Thanks for saving the planet... with your hummer?",
"Recorded in Slowmo.",
"Only the most hard-core hummerers will buy this. They hate fuel efficiency but love hummers more.",
"> I know it’s just a big toy for people with money to burn.\n\nIt's a work vehicle. It's for working people with work to do.",
"I always thought the Hummer crowd was for people who liked vehicles that looked exactly the opposite of this new one. It's like the new Bronco - it looks and performs so little like the original that it's transparently 100% marketing and 0% heritage.",
"And the Tesla truck is nowhere to be found...",
"Where's the roadster and model 2?"
] | 7 |
videos
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First Production HUMMER EV Pickup Edition 1 Rolls Off The Assembly Line
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https://youtu.be/JUwpOWOg0fk
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/r/videos/comments/rkg1tt/the_paradox_that_proves_einsteins_special/
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[
"A brilliant video. Have always heard about clocks in space running slow... this explains why!",
"I wish she'd have given [a better definition of an intertial frame of reference, and mentioned that general relativity doesn't have intertial frames of reference.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_frame#Inertial_frames_preferred_above_noninertial_frames)\n\n>Inertial frames are privileged because they do not have physics whose causes are outside of the system, while non-inertial frames do.\n\nThat, and \"the local speed of light in locally flat spacetime is invariant\"",
"I don't like [the way she stated Occam's Razor in this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDXf1XxCXAk&t=6m44s) either. It should be \"plurality should not be posited without necessity.\" It doesn't mean \"the simplest explanation is often the right one\" (although maybe that's true), it means \"if you're suggesting explanations, only add stuff you *need* for the explanation to work.\"",
"Does she KNOW she sounds like she's speaking to retarded children?",
"Oh no....am i....retarded?",
"The issue I have with this discussion of muons and no one has explained is:\n\nAre we detecting 1 muon per second at every altitude up to and including the origination point of the muons?\n\nOr, do you detect more muons per second the higher in the atmosphere you go?",
"Nice.",
"If I understood her explanation correctly, the muons decay in a random amount of time with the average being around 2 microseconds. This would imply some sort of probability distribution for for how long they last. From there it seems like you could turn that distribution into an estimate of the muon density based on distance from where they form. And I would expect that density to be greatest where they form and it keeps decreasing as you move away from that point. The distance with the biggest decrease in density would correspond to the part of the probability distribution where we see the average time to decay.\n\nBut to really answer your question we would need to know distribution for the probability of decay (standard deviation and average may be enough) plus the calculation for the time dilation.\n\nIt could be that the average distance they travel before decay is greater than 15km. In that case, I would expect that we see a mostly uniform density of them in the atmosphere up to that 15km point where they form. If the average distance they travel before decay is less than 15km, then I expect there to be a distance before the surface of the earth where most of them decay and the 1 per second we see is just the ones that last longer than the average.\n\nI hope that helps.",
"If muons decay in a random amount of time where the average decay in 2 microseconds, then it stands to reason that we need to figure out what that distribution is. Without knowing how many muons are generated every second at the source, then how can we declare that specific muons are dilating time. It is much more likely that these specific muons that arrive every second on earth are extremely rare on the lifetime scale than it is that they dilate time.",
"Right. Presumably, muons have been studied enough in other contexts that we have good models for them, their decaying properties, how frequently they are generated, and all that stuff. However, I think she considered all that stuff out of scope for the video and just wanted to take their unusually long life span in this context for granted. And then explain that special relativity predicts that anomaly.\n\nIt's not hard to come up with other justifications for why the muon detector at earth's surface goes off as often as it does. What is hard, is to find a consistent small theory of physics that explains the things we already observe while also making accurate predictions about new things we observe/discover. That's the really impressive thing about relativity. It can be hard to appreciate the predictive power of a theory without studying the theory in depth along with all the confirmed predictions. In this case, that means all the science behind muons that was already established, like their probability distribution for decay.\n\nRelativity still isn't able to explain everything, but it's the best theory we've come up with for non-quantum things. Currently general relativity breaks down at the quantum level. Which is really interesting because both theories (relativity and quantum physics) are each the best theory we've been able to devise for their respective use cases (relativity for most things and quantum for understanding quantum systems). Relativity is probably also flawed when it comes to modeling certain aspects of black holes. Typically when a theory predicts a singularity there is a refinement of that theory waiting to be discovered/adopted.",
"All your questions are answered [in pretty much every article dealing with atmospheric muon decay.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_testing_of_time_dilation#Atmospheric_tests)",
"> dilating time\n\nThe correct terminology is \"experiencing time dilation\" and you'd know how we know if you [read some basic articles about it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_testing_of_time_dilation#Experiments)",
"Actually, all of those examples in the wiki creates more questions. For instance, have we ever tried to figure out the half life of a muon in motion? This is important because it underscores the entire reason for using relativity.",
"I'm not saying that relativity isn't a good hammer, but it is very general purpose and leads people to say \"impossible muons\" or \"Time travelling muon\" which of course is hyperbole but is also wrong. \n\nRelativity seems to be describing all the chemical compounds of the cake but you still need the recipe which is infinitely more useful.",
"Read the goddamn article."
] | 15 |
videos
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The paradox that proves Einstein's Special Relativity.
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https://youtu.be/hrzuKm3Yc24
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/r/videos/comments/rkggue/finding_snow_monkeys_in_nagano_japan/
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[
"Snow monkeys is what I call Norwegians",
"Kid has a good attitude and I love Japan. Thumbs up-u!",
"Technically Norwegians are monkeys"
] | 3 |
videos
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Finding Snow Monkeys in Nagano, Japan
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wehsz38P74g
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/r/videos/comments/rkh93p/i_hope_in_ten_years_time_we_can_look_back_at/
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[
"It's not just architecture, even \"normal\" housing is gobbled up and left empty, because it's more lucrative than renting them out. It is a massive problem! People are losing their long time homes because they can't afford rising rents anymore / are bullied out once their building is sold.",
"Yeah it's a problem. A lot of people make arguments that building more luxury apartments and housing will free up other spaces for more middle class renters and stuff but it's rarely the case. The rich hoard properties and like the people saying in this video, a significant portion of them don't even live in these places. No normal human beings benefit from this.",
"Ten years? America's right wing media has much of the voter base actively rooting for the system enabling this kind of thing. Remember kids, adequately taxing corporations and billionaires is socialism and you're a goddamn liberal if you think otherwise.",
"Video is far too long imo. Great topic but doesn't need to be 28 mins",
"[I heard that real estate development is a wildly lucrative and efficient way to launder money, especially when you hire out your own shell corporations for development.](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/business/trump-chicago-taxes.html) But who would do such a thing?",
"This.\n\nAlmost as good as bitcoins for money laundering.",
">No normal human beings benefit from this.\n\nRich people are clearly benefitting from this",
"It's not too long and yes it did need to be 28 minutes.",
"You could deal with that but what depresses me a lot is that even supposedly left wing american politicians don't push enough on these issues but instead go for some centrist bs.\n\nBiden should never have won over Bernie",
"Was this comment written by a robot?",
"Such a pessimistic title",
"His exact phrase said normal human beings, which these people aren’t.",
"In America being rich is normal",
"if you lived here, you'd understand that is very much so not the case.",
"Some people in the Iraq and the South Africa don't have maps....\n\n\nThat's basically what I think of when I read those AI posts.",
"It's a rather pessimistic situation, wouldn't you say?",
"Just build so much that it hoarding it makes no sense/is impossible. It's not rocket science.",
"The B1M is maybe the best-produced YouTube channel.",
"Good old conservative state of Washington with it's 0% corporate tax rate...",
"Except he got more votes, so….",
">My rent is $4,250 per month for a 2 bedroom \n\nI cant even afford 800 a month. God damn.",
"> But who would do such a thing?\n\nThe global mafia of elites like Vladonald Trumputin, who have dreams of Empire and Aristocrazy and the ruin of civilization as we know it.",
"Bernie had the most money and highest name recognition of all the candidates. His failure to win can’t be blamed on anyone but himself.\n\nIf Bernie’s only shot was having the moderate vote divided among several other candidates, then his campaign was just not very strong.",
"If only there were a way to structure the tax system to punish inefficient uses of land (such as building an apartment building and keeping it empty).\n\n[Oh wait...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax)",
"Lol what do you expect? Hundreds of thousands/millions of people homeless and dying. And all for the cost of a building no one lives in because the worlds richest use it to launder money and grab tax breaks. \n\nBut yes lets try to label the video optimistically....",
">Bernie had the highest name recognition of all the candidates\n\nBernie had higher name recognition than two term vice president?",
"Very well done video.",
"Yes.",
"Of course. It's like 120% higher at least. I mean just your rent alone is much higher than what I make in a year. So it's depressing",
"Most office buildings that I've explored are half empty. I worked for 7 years in an office where the 10,000 square foot office across the hall, with no build out, went unleased. I never even saw someone look at it. It was never advertised. I don't know the scam but the upstairs was also largely unleased as well. First floor was leased by the bank but only about half the entire square footage just sat empty and unadvertised. Seriously, that 10,000 square foot office had never been leased. The building was 15 years old. Never leased. It had room to be broken down into multiple offices but they just let it sit there.\n\nI don't understand leasing. I assume you make money by hiding profits in CAM. You can review the CAM info as a tenant, but it always seems higher than it should be. Rent for 3,000 square feet? $3,000. CAM? $11,000.",
"Rich people are not human.",
"I think a batman quote would do well here:\n\n\"If I had a week I couldn't list all the reasons that won't work.\"\n\nI think you're confused as to where people would get the 'makes no sense' notion from. That is already happening. They are making buildings and intentionally leaving space empty so the buildings can be taller without having to pay more in taxes. They are intentionally giving up useable building space just so the extremely wealthy can live at the top of a tall building. That is a waste of space, no 2 ways about it.\n\nPeople don't care if it 'makes no sense'. There are many things that fundamentally 'make no sense' that are extremely lucrative. Take, for example, engagement rings. They are a piece of metal that signifies an intention to get married. There is no law requiring them, there is no reason you would ever even need to buy one, and yet people will spend upwards of thousands of dollars on them. ONLY FOR THEM TO GET REPLACED AT THE WEDDING. Most people have 2 different rings, an engagement ring and a wedding band.\n\nNo one gives a shit if something is impractical, they will buy it just for the sake of having it (take NFTs as another example). Not only that, but who the hell is going to pay for all those buildings? Definitely won't be the government, since we can't even get them to give us universal health care.\n\nSo yeah I guess you're right, it's not rocket science. It is, in fact, far more complex than rocket science.",
"Have you ever lived in the US",
"If you think it's Republicans and not a class issue you are sorely mistaken. Democrats are the same. Pelosi been in power for decades and she hordes more wealth than the bottom 30 richest dems combined and actively fights realistic legislation designed to combat market manipulation",
"Ah yes the genius video that talks about how liquid these luxury apartments are while simultaneously stating half remain unsold. That’s the exact opposite of liquid.",
"It really isn't. You just build more housing. Simple as that. And then when that wasn't enough housing, you build more.\n\nVacancy rates are sub 6%, pretty much everywhere. [The vacancy rate in NY was 2.26%](https://inhabit.corcoran.com/new-york-city-residential-rental-market-report-august-2021/). [Boston's is 5.4%](https://bostonpads.com/blog/boston-rental-market/2021-boston-apartment-rental-market-report/). [SF is 8.5% now, but was 3.5% last year.](https://www.millionacres.com/market/california/san-francisco/).\n\nI don't understand why people have this idea rich people are buying apartments and letting them sit empty. It's basically free money you're leaving on the table. And if there's one thing rich people hate, it's free money.\n\nThe people who will pay for those buildings are the ones who are going to live in them. I figured that was pretty obvious.\n\n'tall buildings are a waste of space'",
"True, but at least they look nice.",
"Well, yes... Except for the fact billionaires exist and they could pretty much buy an entire state by themselves. Also the fact that real estate is limited in a city because you can't have people living 100km away from the center of the city being expected to come work at the center every day",
"Yeah, that's why you increase density. I'm not saying cover Manhattan in single family homes.",
"Alright. How are you gonna get back the rights from the billionaires who bought all the air rights around them?",
"Also I don't understand how someone can look at the housing situation in California and blame Republicans",
"How do these ultra expensive buildings shift real estate towards a more liquid asset like the video claims? He lays out the premise that these buildings make real estate more like stocks or cash on the liquidity spectrum, but never explains how. He talks about tax breaks, but never liquidity. If half of these units are unsold isn't that the opposite of a super liquid asset? One chart showed about 400 sales in the past year. Something that only 400 can be sold per year seems very illiquid. Maybe I missed something.",
"Same way they got them, pay for them? Or you could just not give a fuck, violate them, and hope you win in court. But I'd love to read more about these air rights.\n\nAlso, you're going to have to buy the air rights regardless. Either from the person who owns the land underneath and didn't sell their air rights, or from whoever bought it from them.",
"Remind your neighbors (who you have never met) to run their dishwasher once every couple months to keep the seals and tubing from drying out!",
"Today on \"how I can blame everything but the policies I support for the fact that nearly every city run the same way is a dystopian hellscape\"",
"every major city in America is run by the progressive left. I'm fine if we stop voting republican but they aren't creating the problems in the cities.",
"Nobody ever said tribalism lead to intelligence.",
"That's because left wing American politicians are a myth. They're like unicorns. The closest you'll find is a centrist, because most Democrats are center-right at best.",
"The real solution is to remove lobbying. But that's never happening.",
"Shwarzenegger, Wilson, Deukmejian, and Reagan were all Republicans....",
"Why would they sell them?",
"Because money. Why do you show up to work?",
"Housing is the most bipartisan issue there is in California. There really isn’t a party line. If you find something substantial, I’d be interested to see it.",
"Unfortunately no.",
"I don't show up to work. Also, they're billionaires and their money comes from selling skyscraper apartments with a view of central park.",
"The people that need to live in those buildings are the same people that got kicked out of their current residencies during the pandemic because they lost their jobs. Or couldn't afford their rent and had to downsize. You think those people have enough money to pay for the construction of a brand new building?\n\nAnd besides, where are you going to put those houses? Land is already at a premium, and a lot of it is privately owned anyway. You think those real estate owners are going to jump at the chance to own land for low income affordable housing? Absolutely not. Because the profit margins are almost none for low income housing. They're gonna wait for Mr Moneybags with deep pockets to come along and be willing to pay whatever for the view because he can afford it.\n\nI don't understand why you think rich people *aren't* buying apartments and letting them sit empty. You do realize those vacancy rates don't count houses that are owned, right? That's only for rental property. That doesn't count all the penthouses that sit empty 95% of the year because the owner only uses it when they're in New York. I mean, it's common practice for wealthy people to have several homes across the US, and a nice apartment in NYC. Do you think they are going to be using those houses 24/7? Absolutely not. Just when they want to, but they sure as hell aren't going to rent them out. And certainly not to people who need housing.",
"Ok",
"https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-2020-candidates-are-more-or-less-popular-than-they-should-be/",
"Why you posted this article that has nothing to do with the conversation, I’ll never know.",
"Its that it can be sold, not that it is.",
"Their rent is 1.5x my salary fuck",
"Negativity gets better clickthrough.",
"The same way they afforded wherever they had been living. Somebody else built it, they pay to rent it.\n\nYou change zoning laws so density is actually possible.\n\nI don't think that's happening because everyone says vacancies are sub-5% and you've not been able to prove otherwise.",
"Liquidity refers to being easily converted to cash without impacting the assets value. If you have to cut the price in half for quick sale that is not a liquid asset.",
"\"Somebody else built it, they pay to rent\"\n\nRIGHT BUT WHO PAYS TO BUILD IT??? \n\nThat's my whole point man, this shit takes up front investments of millions of dollars, and with a new investment like this you have to be okay to operate at a loss for a couple years. That is not an option for low income families that need a house NOW.\n\nAnd you still haven't address my (or other commenters) point about the fact that there is no where to put these buildings. Commuting into cities is not a feasible option for distances greater than roughly 30 miles, and billionaires can't be bothered to sell their properties for ANY amount of money if they like the location (like many of the buildings in that video that overlook central park. Not like you can just move central park).",
"Democrats are anything but progressive left. Come on man. NY politics has been dominated by neolibs until just recently when millenial left leaning politicians have won local seats.",
"It's similar to the property tax being linked to the rent value thing mentioned in the video I think. When the properties are purchased by investors the purchase price is linked to the rent they will charge(even though they're always empty and no one is actually paying it). Then they can arbitrarily increase the rent(that no one is paying) and the value of their investment magically increases since it is tied to the rent price. This is at least a theory I've seen in some youtube videos I've watched about all the empty business spaces in NYC. It seems like flawed logic but it's not any crazier than having thousands of empty properties in a \"high demand\" city.",
"broken brain",
"Sorry these verifiable facts don’t comport with your worldview.",
"The same people who paid for the building they were living in, someone else. A developer, some company somewhere, who build buildings and sell or rent them out. The same people who are currently building buildings.\n\nI absolutely have addressed them. You build them where current, lower-density housing currently is. I've said it dozens of times.",
"Progressive left? You mean centrist liberals, right?",
"Uhh... Bernie Sanders owns 3 homes...",
"California is the heart of the Democratic party and the republicans hold almost no real power in the state\n\nMy point is it's pretty cringe how people in cali do nothing but blame Republicans for their problems",
"Who has been in exclusive power in California for the last twenty years again?",
"I mean when you're part of the far left, everything not you is centrist or conservative but to everyone else, they aren't center of anything. Progressive taxation, severe gun control and rent controlled housing screwing the whole system up isn't really center of anything. Though I do agree that they aren't exactly California levels of of the spectrum.",
"'lower end apartment'\n\n'two bedrooms'",
"Same goes for you, if you're so far right that a neolib looks like the progressive left, it's your own perspective that's skewed.",
"No, you understand it pretty well.",
"Rent controlled housing, progressive taxation and severe gun control are not center standpoints. While not exactly as far left as say california or oregon, I wouldn't call the Democrats in new york center or moderate. Of course i wouldn't call the republicans there conservative/moderate either. Both are more just varying flavors of authoritarian.",
"but why would they if the commodity they're buying is not scarce?",
"bitcoin fixes this\n\nif central banks werent constantly devaluing currency, we wouldnt have ridiculous over-financialization of assets",
"You're still missing the point. You keep saying 'someone else'. WHO is that someone else? WHY would they build that?\n\nIn this world, no one does anything without a why, and they why is almost always money. Like I said, low income housing is not profitable. So if someone were to go to a real estate agent and say \"I want to buy this lot to build low income housing\", that real estate agent will be like \"what's in it for me\". The builder will say \"I can give you 10% of my yearly profits, as well as 500K up front\" (this probably isn't accurate but it gets the point across). Now since that builder is trying to make low income housing, he's already operating on a tight financial backing.\n\nNow in comes daddy Warbucks who wants the lot so he can build a skyscraper to put his house on the top, so when he takes his twice a year trip to NYC he can have a nice view. He goes to the real estate agent and is like \"I want this lot for my own building\" the real estate agent again asks \"what's in it for me\" and the billionaire says \"I can give you a million dollars now, and 60k a year every year after that\". Obviously, from the real estate agents perspective, that is a better deal. He gets more money.\n\nThe issue is, low income housing can't compete with these wealthy penthouse skyscrapers because the market is not even remotely the same. Low income housing doesn't promise to be profitable, so why would real estate agents sell to them?",
"Great video however the issue is broader than NYC skyscrapers. In places like southern California and Vancouver BC, Chinese investors have been buying properties and leaving them empty purely as appreciating investments. I saw a program where entire neighborhoods in some California communities were owned by foreign Asian investors, the properties all empty.",
"If you think California and New York Democrat politicians in power are left of center then your worldview is entirely warped.",
"I am a libertarian so I don't line up with conservative or progressive authoritarian ideations. I don't advocate for policies that don't work and just fuck things up worse. Doesn't matter which side of the coin is pushing for them",
"This thread is full of people talking about how high rents and prices are. That's what gets people to build more housing. That's the why, because the prices are currently very high.\n\nlol, 'penthouse skyscrapers' as if there's nothing underneath them. You're a joke.",
"Libertarians also fall on the left/right spectrum, you aren't exempt from that categorization by being libertarian. You yourself put out the notion that the centrist liberals that run these major cities are part of the progressive left. \n\nYour perspective is skewed, no matter which political affiliation you claim to have.",
"The existence of luxury housing at the end of Central Park isn't an impediment to building cheaper housing elsewhere in the city. Whether they're vacant or not doesn't affect me. They might as well be giant sculptures. That makes the architecture discussion of this interesting.\n\nI think where they start talking about the finances it's a bit off. You can get 10 years off of the property taxes by building affordable housing. Then they keep repeating the value of the taxes not paid, but don't count the value of that housing? That's not a good comparison. Maybe the law is too big of a loophole and such severe incentive tradeoffs aren't needed. Or maybe this was a great way to get more affordable housing in Brooklyn and the Bronx. We can't know because the time that could have been spent on that was used on sad people sounding sad.\n\nRegardless, in 10 years those tax breaks will have ended. There's still the \"taxed as a rental\" question which they also don't offer details on. But I think once that revenue starts the city will see these as a net positive. It will be hard to say \"I sure wish there was a shorter building here paying less tax and not an updated subway or that affordable housing across the river.\"",
"Whatever you say man. Wish the real world worked like how the one in your head does. \"High rent gets people to build more houses\" lol if only that were how it was",
"I can see by your use of the word “cali” that you’ve never actually had a meaningful conversation with an actual resident about… anything?\n\nLike I said, actual people that this affects don’t see it along political lines. It’s a class issue, despite whatever your memes are leading you to believe.\n\nI also would REALLY like to see an example of what your talking about as far as the housing crises go, because I can’t find anything.",
">Normal\" housing is gobbled up and left empty, because it's more lucrative than renting them out.\n\nThat's interesting. Can you explain this? In detail? With numbers?",
"I never said they were centrist. I pointed out that the 🚓 es they support are not centrist. You just keep repeating the sane thing over and over like it's going to be correct at some point you aren't skewed, you're just ignorant.",
"Add to that the fact that these blood sucking leeches pay hardly any taxes on their 2nd homes, while enjoying all the luxuries of the city when they visit, and its doubly dirty.",
"Supply and demand baybee",
"Holy crap, talking to a brick wall would be more fruitful. At least a brick wall wouldn't project it's own ignorance on me.",
"I literally named all the policies that are ALL endorsed by those who claim to be on the far left and our response isjust repeat centrist liberals over and over. your shitty policies are in palce all across every major city in America and it hasn't worked at fixing them. If you are that incapable of analyzing policies and just want to repeat your sides talking points over and over because you're incapable of actually discussing details then go find one of the circle jerk groups on reddit, twitter, facebook or tumblr and pretend you're fucking smart there. I'm not required to tell someone who is wrong that they're right because they can't process information beyond buzzwords.",
"\"Borrow money and fuck over the people who loaned it to you\" seems like an effective way to steal money. Once. I just don't understand why new people keep falling for it.\n\nIn unrelated news, want to buy shares in Trump's upcoming social media network?",
"Not reading any of that, you had your chance to have a normal conversation earlier. Now I don't care what you think.",
"There's a lot of things things that are poked at but not explained. E.g. They said affordable housing was built in Brooklyn and the Bronx in return for a property tax break. And said 3-4 times what the total value of the tax break was. Did they mention the value of the housing? How do we weigh one against the other without knowing both?\n\nTo your point, I think \"liquidity\" was the wrong word. He probably meant \"low overhead\". That section was how you don't have to worry about trespassing, burglary, and vandalism when you're 3000 feet up.",
"https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/036/945/cover4.jpg",
"They can't because it's not true because it makes no sense.",
"You're right he did talk about low overhead when he talked about liquidity, good point. He also showed a scale of liquidity and got the other assets correct which was a weird way to explain that. He said that housing became more like stocks and cash, but a low overhead to maintaining your money doesn't mean you can get the value out of the asset quickly which is how I understand the measurement of liquidity.",
"I see that movies these days are investments and less of a gamble, and the movie market has changed drastically. Anything that's cool for billionaires to \"invest\" in changes so much. \n\nBut did that guy really blart on about giving a very select few people huge tax breaks means they spend more money in the city which makes up the taxes lost? I don't think so, unless they spend hundreds of millions collectively to make up lost amounts on property development tax. Doubtful. If they dodge tax in one area they're dodging it in another.",
"You know how crypto is basically entirely reliant on one of the big guys never selling because it'll crash the entire thing? Basically that but for housing. There is no scarcity until they make it scarce by buying alot, at which point the price depends entirely on them never selling, which is exactly what happens nowadays. There's plenty of housing for everyone already, it's just bought by billionaires.",
"Time to check it out on vanced cuz this shitty app goes straight to normal youtube",
"Check out Lemino.",
"Proposition 13 is one of the primary reasons for the housing issues in CA. It was enacted in 1978, and both written and pushed by Republicans. Since then it has been very difficult to gain the votes to modify it because dumb people believe propaganda from major real estate holding companies.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_California_Proposition_13\n\nBecause of Prop 13 it's extraordinarily lucrative to buy as much property as possible and hold onto it forever, never upgrading it.",
"Can you explain to me why apartments I've looked at on Zillow in Manhattan are relatively cheap to purchase, but usually have HOA fees in excess of double the premium on the mortgage?",
"Insane costs of building maintenance.",
"Also, run each tap a bit and fill the toilets to keep some water in the traps. You don't want sewer gas coming up the lines",
"Basically it's a game of speculation. Real estate can be handled like stocks and commodities. Betting on developments in an area that raise prices like for example gentrification. They will always make more profits in the future selling without renters and avoiding the higher upkeep it would take as well. I'm sure depending on the country, tax laws / loop holes might make it more lucrative as well.\n\nThere are a lot more documentaries out there shining a light on this problematic topic.\n\nHere is one from DW for example:\nhttps://youtu.be/NPloUxLWfB8",
"Exactly. WTF are they talking about? Videos/documentaries like this are pretty and well made with compelling music and all that, but invariably they are totally full of shit.\n\nSome of the tax exemption stuff at the end was interesting but they don't go into enough detail. Are the 421a tax exemptions forever or for a defined period of time? How exactly are property tax rates calculated if there is no observable market rent? What is the social benefit of the low income housing that was built to offset the tax exemptions, and what do all the economic implications look like compared to the alternative of those ultra tall skyscrapers not being built? And should 421a be abolished going forward (no more mandated low income housing being built in exchange for tax breaks)\n\nLost in this is that government officials in Manhattan, not exactly a libertarian's paradise, signed off on these eyesores being built.",
"Why do so many of these left wing opinion/documentary/expose pieces dumb things down to the point of dishonesty? Maybe that's intended.",
"If renting is no longer profitable for home owners, and people who rent can't afford paying it incresingly. Is the issue on the housing part, or on job wages not rising enough?\n\nSure the goverment can help with housing, and it should. But if you dont fix wages itll be like a bandaid solution.\n\nAt the very least minimum wages should always raise equally as inflation.",
"I wouldn't say that the scarcity primarily is a consequence of people buying property. It's well known that Ontario doesn't build enough housing. Why don't other places that build in response to demand have this massive increase in price? It's not like they don't have investors there.",
"I don't doubt that people can invest in real estate and flip it for higher. The part I have trouble with is that they make more by not collecting a rent check every month. I know people who own rental property. They all tell me that if it goes empty for even a single month they have a net loss for the year. But you're saying it's best to be vacant for all 12 months. \n\nI appreciate the documentary you linked. I haven't had time to watch it yet but will try later. But can you understand my skepticism? If an apartment rents for $2000 a month, why would any owner *not* want to get $24,000 a year? If the property goes up in value it will do so regardless, and if they're causing that much maintenance there's something seriously wrong with those tenants.",
"Lmao, love this discussion",
"Luis Rossmann Has been talking about this very thing on his channel off and on since he started looking for a new store for his Macbook repair store. \n\n[Lius Rossmann YouTube Channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2mFZoRqjw_ELax4Yisf6w)",
"With the invention of the internet, the accessibility for travel leading to globalization of our markets, and the exacerbation of COVID - commercial real estate is in a free fall.\n\nMany commercial properties cannot financially, and many times legally, lower their prices on rent - so they sit vacant, unused, deteriorating, and become a horrible place to turn your wealth into a hard asset.\n\nHomes have always been a great place for this. Everyone needs a place to live. We can't out source that to the internet. With the failings of commercial real-estate, it has caused the residential real-estate market to implode. And so new ways to quickly store your wealth are these hyper-real-estate-homes.",
"For commercial real-estate a lot of the properties that sit vacant cannot financially or legally lower the rent so they sit vacant because they are unable to follow supply and demand.",
"Philadelphia to the south is around $1500/month one bedroom that's decent and modern. For comparison",
"No, Ontario does build enough, but like most places in Canada, chinese corporations buy out the vast majority of the real estate. It's been making the news for the past 2 years on a monthly basis, how do you not know that?",
"He owns his real home which from understanding is a pretty normal middle class house, back in his home state. He owns a house in DC for work, but is still on the smaller economic side. Then he or his wife inherited a cabin from someone in the family. It's a little different than owning multiple properties that needs full staff to run.",
"> My rent is $4,250 per month\n\nJesus........ That's 4x my mortgage.",
"That's all there really is to it.",
"I feel like, if it's a windy day, you've got to be able to feel those buildings swaying, right?",
"I think the argument (as per the video) is the increased liquidity is worth more to the ultra wealthy than the rent. Their financial actions aren’t really comparable to the every day person’s - the rent could have tax implications or might harm the speculative value of investment properties, which is the main attraction.\n\nThat, and somebody buying apartments for 150m+ probably doesn’t give a shit about renting them.",
"Shoulda studied harder in school I guess",
"When was Schwarzenegger governor?",
"This makes zero sense, sorry. Having some rent generating returns on investment is always better than not having rent. \"Tax implications\"? You mean paying income tax? \"Might harm the speculative value\"? Huh?",
"Is the disproportionately massive homelessness epidemic not proof enough? The price of rent and home ownership is insane",
"So it's all the governator's fault?",
"My take on it was he was trying to say that real estate is becoming art. Something rich people buy and trade without any real intentions of enjoying.\n\nExcept real estate is still real estate. It's liquidity doesn't really change. Your ability to turn the asset into cash quickly is still limited by the various hoops required to jump through to offload the asset.",
"So the dumpster dive during the last twenty years of uncontested power is caused by residual effects of the past?",
"Source?",
"With respect to the properties in the video, sure. With a $10m condo you're not going to find a lot of people willing to pay $100,000 a month in rent. And if you do they want it on their terms, not clear 1 year leases. At that point they probably eat the loss of not renting it.\n\nPlus that kind of person is less likely to own 10 in the same building but 1 in each of 10 cities. So it's theirs and they use it but it's vacant 90% of the time. I can understand that.\n\nBut those are such a tiny, tiny segment of the market. The person I responded to said \"normal housing\". I can't see it making any sense to buy my neighbor's house, kick him out, and then pay the mortgage every month while it sits empty. The appreciation, even in hot real estate markets, isn't that big. And if it is, you might as well still collect rent because you're going to have to pay upkeep and property taxes anyway.\n\nAnd if the answer is going to be \"Yeah OK they lose money but they don't care\", then why buy $400,000 \"normal housing\" in the first place? (Which is about what it would cost to break even at around $2000/month via a 30 year fixed.)",
"An enormously impactful, nearly impossible to change constitutional amendment from the past does play a huge part, yes. It's undoubtedly the most impactful proposition ever passed in California.\n\nIt can't be changed through the legislature, it's an amendment passed by ballot initiative. It doesn't matter who's in charge. Democrats can and have tried to push for another proposition that would overturn some of the more disastrous effects of Prop 13, but the rich run their propaganda campaigns and they never pass, because the general electorate doesn't research anything ever.",
"[IDK why you guys are surprised by this. He was a top 2 candidate in 2016](https://www.businessinsider.com/most-least-well-known-democratic-candidates-among-democratic-voters-2019-5?amp)",
"https://www.scotiabank.com/ca/en/about/economics/economics-publications/post.other-publications.housing.housing-note.housing-note--may-12-2021-.html\n\nKeep living in your own reality.",
"You're doing a similar thing? You're being dishonest by calling the video dishonest as if that's a fact when you've not even briefly explained or described how it's being dishonest.",
"How does Bitcoin fix this? If governments outlawed Bitcoin tomorrow, it would be devalued instantly.",
"lmao, \"Housing's not scarce except because rich people buy it\"\n\nGet your head out of your ass.",
"https://www.fortunebuilders.com/one-third-of-vancouvers-real-estate-market-is-owned-by-chinese-buyers/",
"https://www.fortunebuilders.com/one-third-of-vancouvers-real-estate-market-is-owned-by-chinese-buyers/\n\nKeep living in your own reality.",
"Someone else owning the building you rent doesn't make housing scarce.\n\nNevermind that it's actually scarce because there's not enough of it.",
"The buildings, in most of these cases, are on a land lease. They don’t own the land that the building is on and can have monthly charges very high or just have the building go back to the owner of the land. It is really complicated in these cases.",
"I see. It's just like selling debt backed securities. Theoretically there is income, but you're selling debt as if it income. That's makes sense. That's 2008 all over again.\n\nLike, theoretically I could possibly sell this diamond ring that I have for $1,000 so I'll leverage $1,200 against it based on appreciation even though no one would pay more that $500 in this market. I pocket the difference, move the cash, declare bankruptcy, form a new LLC and do it again.\n\nOr am I way off base. This is a small scale concept of course. One would want to purchase millions of debt backed securities based on potential income for this to work.\n\nJust curious. It's shady, but no laws are broken. The more I know, the more that I can defend. I don't like shady deals and I've run into them before on a corporate scale.",
"Keep living in ignorance",
"> I can't see it making any sense to buy my neighbor's house, kick him out, and then pay the mortgage every month while it sits empty. The appreciation, even in hot real estate markets, isn't that big.\n\nI think the disconnect here is that it doesn't really make sense for normal people to do this. People are pointing out \"it doesn't make sense not to extract rent!!!\" as if that hasn't been considered by the wealth behind these markets, and yet tons of apartments sit empty. In the last few years in some areas the property values are literally appreciating more than rent covers.\n\nIn your example, you buy your neighbour's house with a mortgage for $400,000. You need cash flows to cover the mortgage payments, which represent a not-insignificant proportion of your finances, and you're also personally invested in the house since you live next to it. What you don't do is buy a third of the buildings in the neighbourhood, kick out all of the tenants, and start transforming the area to be more valuable than when you bought it. Rather than directly earning from your investment, you make your investment worth more. I personally suspect the wealthy who own lots of real estate are aware that supply is greater than demand, but they collectively can make more money by hoarding valuable space and restricting the availability. Extracting money via rent is potentially less valuable in the long term than creating artificial scarcity and driving up the value of your assets, especially with the commodification/increased liquidity of real estate. Rent can only go up so much when people aren't getting paid much more, but you can make it more expensive for others to buy property that you'll still have in the long term.\n\n[I know this is a comedy show, but I think this wraps up the sentiment](https://youtu.be/BzAdXyPYKQo?t=57). The world economy is increasingly driven by speculation, and the movers and shakers want to make big money on things that haven't happened yet and hold safe assets. Owning huge amounts of property that are hard to value is probably pretty attractive, especially given the tax loopholes mentioned in the video from OP. As long as you can keep the cash flows going, which should be possible when you have huge amounts of equity and debt is cheaper than it has ever been, you can increase wealth by hoarding without creating value or earning taxable revenue.\n\nIf you look at the countries with housing bubbles (which has gotten much worse in most of them since [this](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-the-countries-with-the-highest-housing-bubble-risks/) was published two years ago), they're all countries that surely could afford to house their citizens without robbing them blind. I bet that if there were large changes in the attractiveness of hoarding real estate, you'd quickly see this money going elsewhere.\n\nThanks for listening to my TEDxtra dumb talk, you can buy me a pint of glue in the Crayola Lounge if you have questions.",
"Holy insufferable douchebag Ryan Serhant",
"And I'm going to add, the liquidity of a 300m apartment is way more \"viscose\" than a $100,000 lake cabin or $500,000 apartment in Miami (unsure what actual prices are)\n\nThe buyers of these $300m apartments are very limited, so your ability to move them is much harder.",
"New York is deep blue… what kind cognitive dissonance you must have to blame this policy on republicans. \n\nThe problem here is government regulations making the situation more favorable for those wealthy people who can maneuver them.",
"I’ll help, maybe, chime in because the same thing is happening with commercial real estate as well. \n\nLet’s say I, a corporation, purchase an already-built 20 story commercial high rise in a major metro area that’s sitting at only 30% occupied. This property normally leases for $1 million/year/floor ($20 million total, if all floors are leased). \n\nI can go in and double the rent rate for the vacant properties, and ultimately, the in-use properties, when their lease comes due. If they pay it, great. If not, oh well. I’ve now established a new market valuation for my building of $40 million annually. \n\nEven though I never increased (and likely decreased) my income from this property, I’ve effectively doubled the valuation on it. \n\nMy company doesn’t care, our portfolio of properties is in the billions. I can sit on this and wait it out until someone comes around and pays what I feel this property to now be worth, make sense?",
"Uh mate, New York is run by Democrats. In fact, most US Cities are.",
"I don't mean to be rude, but I do want to bring this to a point so I'm going to try to hem you in. I keep asking for numbers and keep getting only vagaries in response. Now not only is there no explanation why one wouldn't collect rent, you're describing a monopoly-like control over an area without any numbers for that either. In which they would still benefit to charge rent in the meantime and after which they would put those units on the market anyway. None of what you're saying adds up and I think if you tried to be specific you would realize why you're falling short. \n\nYour counter of \"rich people thought of that\" sounds like this. https://youtu.be/upifaeK0B5U\n\nNow what you could have said is that last year for a few months landlords had so much extra supply they chose not to list them all. This is known as warehousing. But this is because rents were FALLING, which doesn't suit the narrative. And they still had some listed, just not all at once. Here's a WSJ article talking about an 11% decline in NYC rents, right alongside discussion of vacancies.\n\nhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/a-better-cheaper-apartment-for-renters-who-stay-in-new-york-11604844000?mod=article_inline\n\n(Did you know rents went down? Funny we don't see videos about that. Only about supply that chooses not to mention price, thus giving a complete backwards impression of how supply and demand works.)\n\nNow that makes sense. Higher vacancies and lower rents are consistent with oversupply. But completely the opposite of claims property is being bought to intentionally sit vacant. That arrangement doesn't make sense and is contrary to the evidence, which says vacancies have been dropping for 10 years save the COVID pop. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/EVACANTUSQ176N\n\nAs for your slight switch in topic to a housing bubble, you noted it's happening in wealthier countries but seem to think it's a coincidence? It's causal. An affluent population bids over property in choice locations. Canada and the Scandinavian countries surely have cheap land further north. But nobody wants to live there so prices bid up in Stockholm instead. When lots of people want to be in limited spaces that's not artificial scarcity. That's real scarcity.\n\nNevertheless, we will see an end to the bubble soon. Inflation is going to push interest rates higher. Higher rates require higher monthly payments. Or the inverse (since that's how people shop houses), higher rates mean smaller mortgages. The situation I described with $2000/month on a $400k home easily becomes $2000/month on a $300k home. Prices can't keep appreciating if the buyers dry up. What remains to be seen is if it's short-term stall as rates go back down, or if it's long enough that stubborn sellers have to drop their prices. \n\nHope that didn't come off harshly. I would buy you a pint if glue or other beverage of choice. You're pleasant to talk to even if I think you're fundamentally wrong here.",
"No, because commercial real estate and residential real estate are not similar at all. You can't value a condo unit or a single family home based on the rent that you are listing it at.",
"But the person who may rent it can. \n\nIt’s a similar idea insomuch as they are speculating the property itself to appreciate. If I buy a condo at $10 million, but I feel it’s a $20 million property, I can a) rent it at a competitive rate (which would need to be closer to rent at other $10 million condos, b) attempt to rent it at 2x the value of option a, which might work, but likely won’t, or c) hold onto it until a time I feel I can sell it for $20 million. \n\nBy choosing option a and renting at a competitive rate, they’ve established a value for that property they don’t want to establish. \n\nI view my property at worth $20 million, I don’t want to rent it at a rate equal to properties worth $10 million. \n\nThe wealthy property holder has a team of lawyers and financial advisors who agree that option c is the most practical. \n\nHelp?",
"Again, I think this is something more in the domain of commercial real estate (which typically have longer lease periods and may require disclosing rent amounts to the buyer). In the case of residential real estate, it makes significantly less sense to do this but I see where you are coming from.",
"Lemino is good but B1M posts way more frequently and still has great quality videos.",
"It doesn't. It was a stupid segue in the video that failed to complete its thought. Real estate is certainly becoming more liquid in modern decades than in decades past. But it's not because of anything that this billionaire row set of buildings is doing in particular. What is making real estate more liquid in the modern era are standardized contracts, digitally enabled transactions, mass data gathering and presenting platforms like Zillow and Redfin, streamlined real estate financing, etc. Something like an exchange traded real estate fund does more for this liquidity than these skyscraper condos in particular. I can buy into a REIT ETF one day, have real estate exposure the whole day, then sell the REIT ETF the next day, and be out of real estate exposure.",
"Nice explanation, thank you!",
"That isn't at all what you said.\n\nThanks for showing off your inflatable goal post though.",
"Craziest part about it, is $4200 in midtown for a 2 bedroom is a good deal, depending on amenities/building quality. I was living in Williamsburg Brooklyn 1 bedroom, about 700 square feet for about 3700 pre pandemic. I moved to Los Angeles where I feel warm, spacious, and rich lol.",
"Care to point out where I mention republicans champ?",
"You're the one living in ignorance. You said Bitcoin can fix this without even being able to answer how.",
"I am cold, cramped and poor. \n\nGlad you managed to find a better place.",
"Well I'm not putting out a sleek 28-minute video to try to influence people. I'm just asking a question about why folks don't see through the biased propaganda that is being fed to them. \n\nBut you are right in that you don't know my biases either. You should take my comments with grains of salt but you should also recognize that videos like this should also be taken with grains of salt. They exaggerate certain aspects, minimize mitigants, dance around contradictions and intentionally make vague assertations or accusations without support or detail. All in an effort to influence you to support their view on the topic.\n\nLastly, if you want a little bit more detail on my objections to the video I have another comment in this post.",
" “If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.” - Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of #Bitcoin.",
"I just find it funny that you're saying the video is dishonest and that it might be intended when you've been dishonest and therefore what you said was potentially intended too. \n\nJust there mere fact that you're calling out someone for doing the exact same thing you are. You just did it in a few sentences while they dragged it out over a long video.\n\nThe funnier thing is that your other comment doesn't even say the video is bullshit or dishonest. Your other comment merely states that they didn't go into enough detail. \n\nThat doesn't make something dishonest or wrong. It just means it lacks detail.\n\nThose two things don't automatically go hand in hand.",
">If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.\n\nThat was said after he explained something.\n\nYou haven't explained how Bitcoin will fix this? To me, it appears you're the one living in ignorance as you're saying things without even a basic understanding of what you're talking about.\n\nYou say Bitcoin will fix this but can't even explain how.",
"The lack of detail is intentional, and that can be dishonest. If they went into detail on why the 421a tax credit went into place, or why it exists, or who it benefits, or when the tax deduction expires, then the point they are trying to get across would be diluted. It wouldn't cause the level of anger or outrage or sense of injustice that the creators of the video are trying to instill.",
"You're assuming the lack of detail was intentional for bad purposes. So not only do you dishonestly post things, you assume things in a bad light too. \n\nBasically, what it boils down to here is you've been completely dishonest for some unknown reason. \n\nYou either have a hidden agenda or you just like to crap on anything you can, because that's the sort of life you live. \n\nI find that interesting for whatever reason.",
"Because you can store your wealth in money, which you cannot do with USD because USD is constantly increasing in supply and allocated to corporations and wealthy people first. \n\nThose people sell those newly issued dollars for assets like real estate. Leading to over financialization of assets.\n\nI alluded to this in my first post..",
"The increase of supply has the side-effect of making USD worth less.\n\nAre you seriously trying to argue that there's nothing that can happen that will ever make BTC worth less?\n\nThat's stupidity to its core. You're in for a big shock when governments and agencies etc, update their laws and regulations to cover BTC more and more. \n\nYou're basing your thoughts on BTC based on how things are now. How things are now with BTC are not how they're going to be in 20+ years time. \n\nYou're in for a rude awakening.",
"You are aware there's basically no regulations on rent, right? Landlords are greedy cunts, it's not like they're gonna try to price their apartments competitively, if they see a giant chinese corporation price a third of the town at 2000$ a month for a 3 1/2 they're gonna match that price and then over half of the population can't afford to live anywhere besides a closet, which is exactly what's happening in Ontario and Vancouver and a ton of high population density places in the US",
"To do this for a house rather than 20 story office building, I think you'd have to buy the whole neighborhood and double the rents. No one will think about buying the house \"valued\" at 400,000 when all the houses around can be had for 200,000 with the exact same amenities",
"It seems that for some reason you have a vested interest in believing the posted video, and similar exposes, and are offended by anything that would force you to think critically.\n\nI wonder if that is because of your implicit biases or you are just naive and believe anything that is told to you? Why would you feel so threatened or be triggered when things you want to believe are questioned or theories you want to buy into have holes poked in them? \n\nAre you consciously willing to ignore reality so you can believe the propaganda that you want to believe? Are you even aware that you are being fed propaganda by these types of videos? Fascinating and curious.",
"And then they'll make no money.\n\nIf I apply your logic to anything else, bread would be $1000 a loaf and cars would cost a billion dollars.",
"You’re correct for a regular suburban house, but these apartments are typically unique to themselves. Which is why the prices wildly vary compared to a normal 3/2 suburb home that’s indistinguishable from others on the block.",
"Ah, the person at the very beginning of this chain said \"normal housing\" so that's why I was thinking about houses\n\nSo when you say \"these aprtments\" are you talking about billionaire's row?",
"Why are you assuming that I believe what is said in the video? I've never said if I think it's true, false or anything in between.\n\nI was merely pointing out the fact that you implied the video was dishonest while being dishonest yourself. You were doing the exact same thing you were shitting on the video for doing.\n\nYour response here though ultimately shows your level of thinking.\n\nYou seem to believe that assumptions are facts. That one reason alone is why you're likely wrong in most opinions and thoughts you hold.",
"Either you live in China, or you live under a rock.\n\nBitcoin will not and cannot be banned in the US without also destroying the 1st amendment\n\nhttps://decrypt.co/37366/can-a-country-actually-ban-bitcoin\nhttps://www.nasdaq.com/articles/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-powell%3A-u.s.-has-no-plans-to-ban-bitcoin-and-crypto-2021-09",
"Bread was price fixed before and the governement stepped in to stop it, that's why consumer goods don't do that anymore.",
"Holy shit you really believe that don't you",
"You are being dishonest in accusing me of being dishonest in my implying that the video is dishonest. Somewhat ironic, no?\n\nIs dishonesty inherent in your character? Do you even know you are being dishonest or is it pathological with you? \n\nI suggest reevaluating your entire world view. You CAN be a worthwhile human being if you take an objective view of yourself, recognize your many many failings and shortcomings, and reject every current aspect of your personality. Perhaps be randomly choosing another persona, you might possibly at some point provide value to our world, and cease being a burden and annoyance to any family or acquaintances you have.\n\nBut it's just a suggestion. Cheers and good luck in your quest for self improvement. I hope I provided some small help.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_price-fixing_in_Canada\n\nIsn't it amazing how every opinion you have is literally 5 seconds away from being proven wrong by the most basic google search",
"That article is very embarrassing for you. Would you like another attempt?\n\nFor starters, nowhere does it state that Bitcoin can not be banned in the US. It also backs up what I said.\n\nBasically, the government wouldn't even need to ban it. They could just make harsh regulatory requirements to the point that it's value is decreased as without the masses, bitcoin will not grow. \n\nThere is no doubt the governments will make regulations tighter and harder on cryptocurrencies going forward. There's loads of money in it for them, so of course they will.\n\nMy bet? You've got some cryptocurrency and the reason you want it to succeed is that it's the only chance you ever will (or already have) at getting rich.",
"You called yourself honest. You described actions that are dishonest while doing those actions yourself. I merely pointed that out. \n\nCan tell by your responses that things are not quite right with your way of thinking. It's odd really.\n\nEnjoy the rest of your day watching conspiracy theories and thinking the moon is might be made out of cheese.",
"That's not why bread costs what it costs. And that's a far cry from thousands",
"No shit I own bitcoin..\n\nHave fun staying poor buddy. Enjoy your cuck bucks",
"dude asked a legit question: thats not ignorance.\n\nhow does bitcoin fix affordable housing?",
"read the thread bud",
"honestly thats a shit answer if you think people should just hoard wealth into bitcoin.. thats pretty shitty.",
"correction, store wealth.\n\nyou have to store it somewhere. dollars, bitcoin, or assets.",
"bitcoin isn't usable for anything. it doesn't hold any tangible value. you can't make or do anything with it.",
"I said he had the highest name recognition and posted a source confirming that exact fact. \n\nCritical thinking is not your strong suit.",
"Please make it more obvious you've never used bitcoin in your life lol",
"come back when you are either broke or don't use bitcoin. when it becomes a dollar and actually stable enough to used as a currency and it can be spent somewhere of importance... call me baby :P",
"And until then sir.. you have fun staying poor 🙏",
"lol. have fun at wendys."
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“I hope in ten years time we can look back at Billionaire’s Row (NYC) as a phenomenal mistake.” Brilliant video essay by a YouTuber on how cities around the world are using architecture not as shelter but to hoard wealth.
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"Would the whale have exploded if there was no camera to capture this event?",
"yes, but it would have made no sound.",
"Obviously, they explode all the time",
"Exactly!",
"Also the title of the lowest ranked video on PornHub."
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Whale Explodes On Camera!
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"Pumped hydro requires the proper geography for it to be feasible, doesn't it? Is that also the case for the underground Energy Vault?",
"Yeah, the video makes good points up until this. The geographic limitations for pumped storage hydro ~~make it completely unfeasible in almost every circumstance.~~ are huge.",
"And even the circumstances where it's technically feasible its ***extremely*** inefficient.\n\nWe need *actual* battery technology advancements that make it reasonable for every home to have a battery in it.",
"Well, for these storage solutions, efficiency isn't that important because the energy is going to waste otherwise.\nBattery tech is (currently) an environmental disaster.",
"Both batteries and solar panels are currently barely recycled. Hopefully we find a fix for that instead of just dumping them, otherwise we're just kicking the can down the road a bit.",
"He kind of digs his own grave:\n\n\"I have a Patreon if you think this content is worth your money\"\n\nYou JUST explained me why it isn't.\n\n\nEdit: ok guys, bad joke apparently... :(",
"Was my thought. They don't use cranes because they're cheap/easy, they use them because they have to. I'm sure most companies would *love* to avoid using cranes if they could, due to complexity/cost.",
"Store the energy in electric cars.",
"The first of the three R's is reduce. Aiming to mass produce batteries in the hope that some of it can be recycled maybe is a bit short sighted, dont you think? Rather than developing systems thay use something inert like water..",
"Source on this one plz.",
"They exist all over the place so that last sentence is definitely untrue.",
"Do you mean like...2 different levels of elevation? Yeah oh boy, where could we find something like that. LOL\n\nCertainly, there are extremely flat areas, but more often than not you will find valleys and hills.\n\nEven if you had to dig, it would still be more efficient than a giant Jenga machine.",
"It's a really good use case for old electric car batteries that are too worn out for use in vehicles but can still hold power before they are sent for recycling.\n\nGreat for creating small clusters of storage and localising grid infrastructure reducing waste on energy transfer.\n\nBut yeah we definitely shouldn't be building giant purpose build lithium battery farms if at all avoidable.",
"I like how this is the top comment on the video, meaning you're probably a bot that just copies popular comments hoping to get free karma.",
"Made me laugh. But I guess the truth is somewhere in between",
"Here's a dumb idea.\n\nWhat if you had baseball sized cast iron or lead balls? You could lift everything with screws and use a redesigned water wheel that can take a beating.",
"Have you totally misunderstood the video or something?",
"Lol, hydroelectricity is one of the most efficient forms of energy storage.",
"Check out gravitricity - same thing using old coal mine shafts.",
"Nice top comment copy you bot\n\nThey copied the youtube comment, it’s a karma farm",
"Why have so many weights. Why not one or two huge weights on some form of track or fixed pully and just not lift it so high when there isn't enough power.",
"easy for this lazy clown to criticise anything without suggesting a different solution",
"way to copy dave's comment, idiot",
"??? did you watch the video?",
"This whole dumb shit idea is 'Solar Freaking Roadways' level of dumb.",
"> use a redesigned *water* wheel that can take a beating.",
"Why not judge the idea on the math of the concept?",
"A guy named 'randomword_randomwordnumber' that's 8 days old can't be a bot. /s",
"I'm new to Reddit. Is it how you are supposed to use it? I can't post anywhere because I'm required to have karma; and I see everyone here copies top comments on YouTube.",
"It's a bot, had loads of them banned recently, they seem to have been made around Dec 13 and just copy comments from the youtube comments and post them on reddit.",
"[Tom Scott did a great video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx_bJgIFhI) on the alternative offered at the end of this video.",
"yeah i worked it out after looking at their other comments 😅",
"You just have to report them as Spam -> Harmful bots and the account is usually deleted within a few minutes.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rkike2/the_energy_vault_is_a_dumb_idea_heres_why/hp9yj85/\n\nThat is another one.",
"The Solar Roadways was a \"good on paper, shit in execution\" idea. I think it was the panels breaking down much faster over time that killed that idea. Which... They should have thought about, considering you're putting a multi-ton car on these plastic and silicon road panels.",
"The ones that copy are just bots, you can report them as spam.",
"I think the point stands regardless. Critism without alternative solutions is just...bitching.",
"did YOU watch the video??? he DOES give an alternative solution",
"I was merely referring to the above comment.",
"> The Solar Roadways was a \"good on paper, shit in execution\" idea. \n\nIt was shit on paper.\n\nTo work great, solar panels need to be exposed to as much sunlight as possible for as long as possible.\n\nRoads have a constant flow of cars on it.\n\nCombining them gives you solar panels with cars on them which block sunlight.\n\nShit idea.",
"On a freeway or highway, 100% you're right. Small town roads, it could have been possible. I think a \"solar sidewalk\" might have been a better idea, as how often (outside of a metropolis like NYC) do you see congested sidewalks?",
"Unfortunately, unlike the video claims, digging giant holes *is* pretty expensive. Pumped hydro is phenomenal where it can be sited, but those siting requirements *are* tricky.\n\n[According to energy.gov, there's enough potential sites in the US to double our current capacity\n](https://www.energy.gov/eere/water/pumped-storage-hydropower)\n>America currently has 43 PSH plants and has the potential to add enough new PSH plants to more than double its current PSH capacity.\n\nDoubling our current storage would certainly help, but it's still nowhere near enough to reliably run the grid off 100% renewables. Also keep in mind, many of those unused pumped hydro sites are in the middle of nowhere, without nearby infrastructure or transmission lines; that makes construction even more expensive. Pumped hydro also runs into many of the same environmental issues that regular dams do, which can make siting even more expensive and time consuming.\n\nThe gravity tower idea does seem pretty wishy-washy, but saying \"why not just build pumped hydro instead\" isn't a valid criticism. We *have* built pumped hydro where it's cheap enough to be economic. To expand out our energy storage infrastructure, we need to either commit to more expensive options, or start exploring alternatives.",
"Sidewalks with a solar roof over them.",
"you're saying \"the point stands\" because if the commenter was correct about the video, they would have a good point? what an asinine thing to comment",
"Yeah, and windturbines are allready considered pretty maintenance heavy. This would never be worth it.",
"Well you could watch the thunderfoot video and find out.",
"> Do you mean like...2 different levels of elevation? Yeah oh boy, where could we find something like that. LOL\n\nIn many countries, you can't. Not to any high degree or area that's required at least.",
"You replied to a bot.",
"I have zero comment on the video. I didn't watch it. All I'm stating is that people who criticize without offering alternative solutions, are, in fact, lazy clowns. Lol",
"Join smaller subreddits focused on things you’re interested in instead of the defaults. Most have lower requirements, less bot content, and be more relevant to what you like",
"Don’t worry about it too much, just give your two cents",
"Exactly what I thought, you could have a single 100 ton weight with loads of reduction to lift it and even just a tiny lift would result in large power output.\n\nOf course, that would increase the tension, but we build stuff with that type of constant tension all the time that also has to deal with large live loads this wouldn't need to handle.",
"At that point, it'd be better to just have solar on every home and business, which I've been saying should've been done by now if certain billionaires invested in fossil fuels didn't have sway into that. And -still- waiting on Musks Solar Roof project to actually be finished. Been in concept and pre-order for an eternity.",
"i mean that.. just leaves me speechless, and i'm frankly furious that i've allowed my time to be so completely wasted. i could have been staring at a wall and it would have been time well spent. incredible.",
"Not to mention how dirty they would get the first day.",
"The idea is still dumb. The problem with solar panels isn't \"Oh gosh, were do we put them?\" it's \"How do we achieve the highest possible efficiency\". \n\nTo achieve a reasonable efficiency solar panels need to be slanted, ideally with the ability to rotate them throughout the day. \n\nPutting solar panels on the floor is a dumb idea, even if there were no other problems. And in this case there are about a million other problems.",
"That's exactly where I'm not allowed to post.",
"No, it's still a dumbass idea",
"The issue with pumped storage, is that in a lot of countries like mine... We've already used all the places we realistically could. It requires specific geography. \n\nI'm not saying this idea is great, just that pumped water storage is an idea with a limited level of application.\n\n\nAnyway, in regards to this particular idea... Why not one gigantic block of solid concrete? Just gear the lifting and letting down.\n\nWouldn't need to be as big and ugly then. And wind wouldn't do shit to it.",
"What makes you think he is a bot?\n\nAnd his argument still stands, upkeep on this would be insane.",
"100% agreement. Always interesting to just discuss ideas, even failed ones. You also have to factor for panel cooling, as heat creates electrical resistance.",
"and you've now answered why solar pavements and roads are bad on paper.\n\nThey just make far more sense up higher.",
"Because it's copied from a youtube comment in this video. All their comments are on youtube video posts here on reddit and all of them copy one of the top comments on youtube.",
"Snowfall.",
"Dam, thats the solution.",
"Hey, I used to work there",
"What is good about this in theory, is that geography wise all you need is a flat area with good natural foundations, and a road that leads there. That's it. Then you can immediately start storing power in the blocks. In theory that could be in the middle of a city (although an inefficient use of space).\n\nOf course many places don't have those foundations. Instead you need to dig down first to build foundations. Otherwise you have the risk the ground may subside, it may fall over during a storm or earthquake, or at the very least it limits the height.\n\nI also have little faith in the blocks being positioned well as they come down. In construction you have a team of people positioning such items. This company will need a team of people landing each block. That will raise the cost a lot. If you can automate that then the company is in the wrong business. They should get into construction. They'll make billions.\n\nThere is no reason you couldn't do the same with a water tower. Pump water up to store it, have it come back down to generate power. That will be substantially cheaper to build.\n\nI think the ultimate problem is the scale. Pumped storage hydroelectric is typically on a much larger scale. That's where the payoff begins. As it scales up, the cost is reduced. This is why companies don't convert water towers into batteries.",
"Presumably they made that choice to minimize the structural requirements of the cranes. They only have to hold a few percent of the mass of the tower at a time instead of all of it. \n\nA crane that can hold 1000 tons is far, far more expensive and difficult to build than a crane that can hold ten.",
"this is a really interesting idea",
"> Anyway, in regards to this particular idea... Why not one gigantic block of solid concrete? Just gear the lifting and letting down.\n\nA crane that can hold 10 tons at a time is far, far cheaper than one that can hold 1000 tons.",
"Reddit is really full of bots",
"Wow, the way the guy speaks is so condescending. Pumped hydro doesn't work everywhere.",
"It's gotten worse and worse.",
"Yeah the energy vault is a very dumb idea, but the suggested alternative (water reservoirs) also only really works effectively in certain (rocky/hilly) terrain with - preferably - preexisting lakes.\n\nMaking huge stable artifical hills everywhere with large lakes on top is not a universally viable mass energy storage method either.",
"Ah naw c'mon. There'd be no traffic half the day!\n\n... At night... Fuck.",
">Combining them gives you solar panels with cars on them which block sunlight.\n\nI think that's the least problematic aspect of the whole thing (which, don't get me wrong is a terrible idea either way). Even the busiest roadways in the country are mostly empty space. Cars blocking the sun would only decrease output by single-digits at worst.\n\nThe wear and tear is absolutely devastating. I'd think it would make far more sense to have the panels above the roadway, since panels do much better with weather than with cars",
"There was a similar device built that used a railway track and railway wagons on a hill. \n\nIt would use electricity to take concrete blocks to the top, where they would be unloaded. Then to generate electricity, it would take them to the bottom of the hill again, using the motors as generators. \n\nThe system worked, used easily available existing technology, and was simple to build. However, it wasn't particularly efficient, or required at the time.",
"But it'd not even really need to be a crane in a traditional sense. \n\nSurely a lot of the complexity and therefore price in a crane that can lift 1000 tons comes from it needing to lift it in 3 directions.",
"This is generating electricity from burning petrol/diesel but with extra steps. A lot of very inefficient extra steps.",
">isn't a valid criticism\n\nWhy not?\n\nIt is expensive, not as expensive as the giant Jenga tower though, which was the point of the video.\n\nIf you are proposing a solution to a problem, it should at least be able to compete with already existing solutions that weren't able to be used.\n\n>We have built pumped hydro where it's cheap enough to be economic.\n\nWe certainly have not. There's still a lot of places that have 1. not been saturated with green energy and 2. not built these types of batteries to store the energy they are not even producing yet.\n\nIdk why you'd make such a blatantly false statement.",
"from the screenshot I was assuming this was the proposal Bill Nye was floating two decades ago, about digging a massive hole, forming the tailings into a column fit to the hole, and then filling the hole with water.\n\nEnergy raises the tailing pillar, allowing water to flow under it, later, the pillar is lowered into the water forcing it through turbines. It's not a perfect plan, but it was more viable than this solution, and we could have done it ages ago, and he gave it away for free. Weirdly it immediately resolves tons of problems this newer design has, by being a hybrid of the two solutions presented here.",
"Everything still needs to be *massively* more overbuilt and hence expensive, though. Machines that can lift 1000t are absolutely not cheap and it would destroy any hopes of cost effectiveness.",
"That 100% grade A snark. Love it.",
"As a sort of speculative thing, don't we have rather a lot of tall buildings around? - dedicate a floor to a water tank and you have a commercial district sized pumped hydro facility or even a city sized facility.",
"That would drastically increase the cost of the crane...\n\nMoving stuff in a modular fashion keeps the crane relatively affordable.",
"This please is a dont dumb fall idea for it",
"People hate Adam Something because he dunks on Musk all the time. You can disregard most ow-effort criticism leveled towards him as fanboys being upset.",
"Again, even ignoring costs, there's only enough potential pumped hydro sites in the US to double our current storage capacity. Pumped hydro will not solve the energy storage problem by itself.\n\nWhich statements do you think are false?",
"Have we considered lunar panels? If not, I want my name on it as the inventor, someone else needs to come up with logistics though. I'm an ideas man!",
"Well, if you eventually get to electric vehicles…\n\nBut yeah roads move and break enough without having a kinetic capture device underneath them",
"What if you make cars out of glass so the light passes through them?",
"The one I quoted.\n\nThe point of the video is NOT that pumped hydro will SOLVE energy storage. The point of the video is, that pumped hydro is in every way superior to the proposed solution.\n\nIf you don't get it now, I'm out, I ain't talking with a wall.",
"I love this so much.",
"You can also use water towers for pumped hydro. Still a better solution than stacking concrete blocks IMHO.",
"Two very different levels of elevation quite near each other, but with a feature suitable for storing lots of water at both elevations, an abundant water source, and also near where you want to produce energy. The list gets thin pretty quick. \n\n\nThe Real Engineering YouTube channel had a good episode on the topic. https://youtu.be/JSgd-QhLHRI?t=683",
"Sure, but the financials deteriorate very quickly when you have to build the container and maintain it, rather than \"just\" block off a valley with a dam and start pumping. \n\n(Not defending the retarded concept in this video by the way)",
"The US has 4 million miles of roads. A lot of that is service roads, and access roads, that see a single municipal service truck every month or two. Heavily trafficked city centres and gridlocked rush hour freeways are not the targeted location for these solar roads. \n\nYou never been on a road trip before?",
"It really isn’t. The concept is excellent. It’s so great, humanity is already doing it in a much more efficient manner. Things like this gain traction because modern engineering really is rad and “futuristic” seeming. Most people just don’t know anything about it\n\nSolar roadways are laughably dumb. They’re akin to flying cars where the whole concept quickly breaks down and makes absolutely no sense to ever come to fruition",
"That’s the least of the problems lol\n\nIt’s prohibitively expensive to build, prohibitively expensive to maintain, and the benefits are dubious at best\n\nLike, does anyone understand how expensive regular concrete roads are to maintain? Even lots of rich communities have crappy roads due to the cost\n\nIt’s unbelievable anyone believe that making roads cost 100x more could possibly end up a net positive. If solar was that efficient and wonderful, just build regular ass solar panels in fields. There would never be a world in which it made sense to integrate solar panels into the road",
"There is a mountain like 400 yards away in the live video, just make the track up there. Sisyphus",
"Oh for sure, I 100% agree that pumped hydro is in every way superior to the proposed solution.\n\nThe problem is that we can't physically build enough pumped hydro to meet our needs. So, we need new solutions of some form, whether that be grid-scale batteries, physical storage like this, or other novel forms of storage.",
"They’re a great idea if no cars every actually drive on them. Ever. \n\nMaybe we could elevate them off the ground actually, and have them able to pivot to follow the direction of the sun! \n\nGuys I think I just cracked the whole thing wide open!",
"How did I know it was Adam Something?",
"Dude lost me at the mocking \"I have faith in Jesus\" comment. As if you can't be an engineer AND believe in Jesus",
"Why is this an alternative to batteries? Every time we “store” energy with methods like this, there is a lot if heat loss in using some electricity to lift the blocks. Every time we “regenerate” energy by lowering blocks, a huge amount of the stored potential energy is lost to heat as well. This has heat loss on both sides! Conversion efficiency has awful right?\n\nEdit: answer is batteries are expensive and hydrostorage options aren’t really that wasteful.",
"Agreed, here's a wiki link that will explain things better than I can: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar\\_Roadways](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Roadways)\n\nBut to summarize, solar panel roads are shit for a lot of reasons.\n\n1. It performs poorly as a road\n 1. bad traction\n 2. very susceptible to scratches\n 3. hard to repair\n 4. Interlocking system may \"buckle\" creating dips, bumps, or other notable roughness on the road system that could be more dangerous than an average pothole.\n2. it performs poorly as a solar panel\n 1. Tempered, self-repairing, and highly translucent glass isn't really a thing. So the max rate of absorption isn't going to be good\n 2. Cars are driving over it, so that's less sunlight as well.\n\nThere's definitely a lot better systems out there for managing power",
"**[Solar Roadways](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Roadways)** \n \n >Solar Roadways Incorporated is an American company based in Sandpoint, Idaho, aiming to develop solar-powered road panels to form a smart highway. Their proof-of-concept technology is a hexagonal road panel that has a glass driving surface with underlying solar cells, electronics, and sensors to act as a part of solar array with programmable capability. The concept has been criticized as unfeasible and uneconomical as either a road surface or a photovoltaic system.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"I have always loved this idea... And saying existing pumped hydro is the solution isn't correct because some places are just flat.... BUT, wouldn't a water tower be a simpler way to do everything this does? Maybe we just need a lot of water towers.",
"I don't know enough about this tech to speak of it's efficacy, but I feel like all of his arguments are terrible? I don't even disagree that this is probably not the solution we are looking for, but at least they are trying to fix something instead of just making youtube videos about people who try to fix things. Reasoning:\n\n&#x200B;\n\n1. you can't put hydro pump plants anywhere you want, it requires a lot of space and specific geography.\n2. hydro pump plant would be way more expensive than the crane idea\n3. dealing with water adds many more levels of complexity and can be expensive, fiscally and time wise, to deal with issues and failures.\n4. digging a massive hole in the ground is going to be far more expensive in time, money and carbon emissions. this suggestion honestly baffles me, it's like he has only compared the end results and not the journey to get there\n5. the crane he suggested to use is far more expensive than 6 of the other ones.\n6. 6 smaller cranes are a lot faster than one large one\n7. 6 small cranes are also more energy dense ( i would guess from the design) \n8. I'm guessing the large crane will have a larger crew also, if not larger, more specialised \n\nI had another but lost it while typing. If anyone knows more about the topic please chime in.",
"This guy is wrong on a lot of things here. 82k Tons of carbon isn’t that much for something like this, and has a huge negative carbon impact over the life.\n\nAlso, wind turbines don’t need “intense “ wind to function, so these towers can be constructed in lots of areas. Wind really isn’t a huge concern here unless it’s 40-50mph.\n\nConcrete blocks are incredibly durable and easily replaced. Also, you can reclaim concrete for a lot of this.\n\nI feel like this guy has an elementary understanding of the engineering issues of that projects. Is this thing the best solution ever? No. Is it “incredibly” stupid? Absolutely not..",
"Yep, I agree that's much better. There's probably not going to be one \"silver bullet\" energy storage solution - it's going to have to me a mix of approaches.",
">but it's still nowhere near enough to reliably run the grid off 100% renewables\n\nDo you have a source for this?",
"One major problem with pumped hydro is that it can seriously fuck up a huge area when it goes wrong. As was the case of the Taum Sauk pumped hydro facility in Missouri, which, in 2005, destroyed a state park and swept several people down-river when the dam was breached due to the upper reservoir's pump failing to shut off when the upper reservoir was full. The upper reservoir wall collapsed, sending 1 billion gallons downstream in a 20-foot high wall of water. Fortunately it was winter and the park (normally full of campers during warmer weather) was empty, or the loss of life would've been quite large. \n\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taum_Sauk_Hydroelectric_Power_Station",
"We OBEY the the laws of thermodynamics in this house!",
"Because it doesn't look as futuristic as seeing multiple arms moving multiple blocks in tandem.",
"The idea covered in the video has big flaws, but pumped hydro storage is great.\n\nThe reason why it is worth energy losses is its sustainability. A pumped hydro storage can hold much more energy and operate for much longer than a lithium battery.\n\nThe reason why it is useful to spend energy to save is because generating enough energy isn't really the problem, it is covering differential needs throughout the day and night.",
"If you get to electric vehicles you're taking power from the original power stations, still adding extra steps, robbing power and efficiency.",
"Stealing power from the car owners through robbed efficiency.",
"Electric generators and engines are generally quite efficient. Pumped hydro storage has efficiency of around 80 %. Not perfect but I wouldn't call a 20 % loss \"huge\".",
"A very large water tank is extremely heavy, and probably require additional consideration while designing the building.\n\nI'm no engineer but this doesn't look like a good idea",
"I'd imagine the crane would have to be half as high if the weight was doubled to store the same energy.",
"I figured the hydro solution would be more efficient and that’s interesting. I was more referring to the concrete blocks idea. Do you know how efficient that system is?",
"In the US at least, with very car oriented cities, covering all of the many huge urban parking lots with solar panel roofs should come *long* before even thinking about any panels on the ground. \n\nIn peak summer it will stop parked cars becoming so hot when parked outside and it isn't making areas look bad or covering countryside and farm land.\n\nEvery American city has acres of available parking lots.",
"I suggest you watch the Thunderfoot video he linked, you cant go over all the reasons this is fucking stupid in 4 minutes",
"Thanks, that does make sense. I figured the hydro solution would be more efficient too.",
"Pumped hydro (or hydro batteries) are great except there are limitations on where they are practical to build. Pretty much they require the same conditions as a good hydroelectric dam so once we run out of those locations we will need alternative storage methods",
"I really despise people who argue that faults in technology today will necessarily being fixed tomorrow. Like they just don't believe that there are structural limits to a type of technology. Like Tesla's self-driving will never work. The technology itself limits this.",
"All I'm hearing is indoor swimming pool with (high-pressure and fatal) waterslide! I'm in!",
"I think that's his shtick, most of all his video is meant to be entertaining",
"In either case it a waste of both money and energy, and HOW do you store it since it looks and operates more like something that regulates the energy being produced and when it too much it's relieve valve and when there is too little it's static so where is the real benefit ?\n\nThere is better and easier ways to do both than building more and more monstrosities and I sure hope there is not an earthquake because I would not want to be anywhere near that when it come down and in a large enough one it will as the wind is the least of this structures problems.\n\nN. Shadows",
"I gave you an upvote bro",
"Thanks.",
"My favorite part is when he said \"I'm not an engineer\", fully admitting he has zero idea what he's talking about",
"Now reddit peasants, argue for my entertainment!",
"Always was a shit idea. It is cheaper to build a canopy over a highway or parking lot and then put normal PV cells on it than to build PV cells which can stand up to a decade of cars driving over them. The solar roadways nonsense sounds like a great idea until you spend any time at all thinking about why it is a really dumb thing to do.",
">Basically none of that is a problem for electric batteries. \n\nNo, the problem with electric batteries is the cost, environmental impact of making them, and energy density. \n\nBatteries are expensive as hell. Digging a hole is way less expensive. You aren't as worries about energy losses since without the hydroelectric battery all that excess energy would be 100% lost.\n\nEdit: oops, someone already discussed this.",
"> it is covering differential needs throughout the day and night.\n\nThat's exactly right. If you visit the underground hydro-electric dams in Scotland, they do a great job of explaining the technology in terms of predicting and following people's daily energy patterns. For example, during the ad-break of Coronation Street, hundreds of thousands of people get up to put the kettle on for a cup of tea, leading to a energy demand surge of between 200 to 800 megawatts on the national grid.",
"It really wouldn't because you are only lifting one mass instead of a bunch of masses. You could build a much shorter structure and use fewer wenches and a simpler, but beefier, pulley system.\n\nI would honestly expect a water tower design using a heavier liquid than water to be more effective overall, though.",
"Yes let's ask Denmark or the Netherlands or Florida to use their world-famous valleys and hills",
"Well the manufacturer claims it's 90 %. I don't that is far from the truth.",
"Quay cranes for shipping have automated landing systems that land one container precisely on top of the previous one so that the twist locks exactly line up.",
"I wonder if we could use depleted uranium as the weights instead, it's about 8 times as dense as concrete and we already have a lot of it. Nevermind the energy it would take to ship would probably offset any gains. oh well.",
"Yes, it really would, a shorter crane isn't substantially cheaper, its the lifting capacity that drives the cost. Motor size, strain on the structure and it's long term effects, counter balance weight, foundation mass and more are all required to scale up capacity.\n\nThere's a reason cranes are priced by capacity and not size.\n\nA smaller crane is far, far more economical.\n\nImagine you only have a bit of energy to store that night, for a really big weight all that energy might be lost in cable tension alone. It's entirely possible to burn energy and do no work with a weight that's too heavy for the energy being stored. Pumped liquid is certainly better on this front since it's infinitely granular.\n\nA bigger weight just means more strain, loss potential, and cost.",
"How'd you get fired?",
"A single smaller crane, sure, but not 120 smaller cranes versus one or two big cranes.",
"Solar roadways wasn't a dumb idea, a programmable roadway that could prevent tens of thousands of traffic deaths a year by never letting the road freeze while saving billions a year in maintenance costs by offering a modular approach (versus the wholesale constant concrete maintenance we do now, which costs us ungodly amounts of money) is a *great* idea. Bonus that it offers a distributed conduit for electricity transmission, and if it happens to make a few MW by itself, that's even better.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nSolar roadways wasn't a failure in engineering concept, it was a failure in marketing combined with an extra-heavy dose of cynicism from pop culture. I'd be willing to bet a dollar that if you looked hard enough, you'd find O&G lobbying dollars spent on influencers throwing shade at solar roads.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: Nice to see cowards who haven't read the reddiquette downvoting for simply disagreeing with what I have to say.",
"Water is quite thick, heavy stuff to move around, I read about the loss coefficient (K) in this, and its going to stack up - in both directions (store, discharge). \nWhere as raising blocks is going to have losses due to friction of pulleys and gears along with air resistance, so its quite believable that it will be more efficient.",
"I don't think anyone is arguing that pumped storage isn't ideal for energy storage. But pumped storage has major geographical limitations as well as significant environmental impacts.",
"Again, capacity drives cost, not size.\n\nIt's simply cheaper to buy, build, and maintain 10x 10 ton cranes then 1x 100 ton crane.\n\nI work for a general contractor and weve owned a few cranes over the years.\n\nMost soil can easily bear a 10 ton crane, soil conditions to host a 100 ton crane are not nearly so easy to find. Operators are more expensive as size goes up, licensing is more expensive as size goes up.\n\nIf we have the choice to install a few smaller cranes or 1 large crane on a job site, the multiple smaller ones is always cheaper.",
"So why not put the solar above the roadway making it like a tunnel? Wouldn't this help with erosive degradation?",
"I know a few people at this company, it’s a spin off from a incubator company called Idea Lab. Basically an extremely well funded, VC backed startup machine. I’m positive there is fraud here. One engineer I know that works there is literally tasked with adding recycled materials to the blocks like broken down turbine blades, literally making the concrete lighter just to be more eco-bait. There are so many other issues with this technology not highlighted in the video, but the efficiency and power density numbers they give with a quick hand calc are unachievable. It was like someone took a Khan Academy physics class and wanted to show off they understood potential energy.\n\nEdit: I would like to add, I respect the engineers that work there, there are a lot of really interesting challenges to make this concept even remotely work properly, much less efficiently. I hope if anything comes out of this is just more research and adds to future green tech. But who am I kidding?! It’s a cash grab start up, they probably have everything saved locally on their computers and would guard any actual IP with so many patents it will never surface to be usable technology elsewhere.",
"He drank on the job. They said he stole energy.",
"That's ... A rather sudden assumption",
"You need to add /s to this, people might think you are serious",
"I just got out of a grad level ME seminar on mechanical energy storage such as this exact design. This energy storage is theoretically possible. A cooler design in my opinion is making a LARGE plug out the ground that moves only a few meters but because of the weight can storm MASSIVE amounts of electricity. It's a cool thought.\n\n\nIf anyone wants to look more into this, https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/mechanical-energy-storage is a good source.",
"> a programmable roadway that could prevent tens of thousands of traffic deaths a year by never letting the road freeze while saving billions a year in maintenance costs by offering a modular approach (versus the wholesale constant concrete maintenance we do now, which costs us ungodly amounts of money) is a great idea.\n\nYeah it IS a great idea! Can't wait until somebody actually comes up with something that can do that, instead of solar freaking roadways.",
"Did you ever actually look up their specs? The solar roadways were able to do all of what I mentioned. The only reason why they were shat on is because they weren't energy-positive solar panels, which they were never intended to be. Solar panels with cars driving over them will never be as good as ones with perfect access to the sun, duh. But that was never their only benefit.",
"Except Tesla FSD is already working. 99% of the time, not 100% but \"will never work\" is a boomer claim.",
"The only thing I'll add is that anybody who downvotes a post because they don't agree with what's being said is a *punk* and a bad Redditor.",
"Your assertion is similar to one along the lines of: \"We don't need larger batteries for electric cars because all they do is charge and discharge. If it runs out of charge, we can just refill the charge\". The point of the abundant water source is to store large amounts of potential energy at once. Once the water has gone from higher elevation to lower elevation it can no longer produce electric power. At that point, power must be used to move the water back up before it can generate electric power again.",
"> you could have a single 100 ton weight...\n\nI think the big problem is total energy capacity.\n\nFor reference, a single AA battery contains around 15,000 Joules of energy. To fully charge a Tesla Model S takes 1,200,000,000 Joules.\n\nTo lift a mass of 1 kg by 1 metre needs around 10 Joules.\n\nSo lifting a 100 (metric) tonne mass by 1 metre would only need/release the energy equivalent of 100,000 * 10 / 15,000 = 67 AA batteries\n\nTo fully charge a Tesla, you'd need to lift that 100 (metric) tonne mass to a height of 1.2x10^9 / (100,000 x 10) = 1.2 kilometres\n\nThat's a very tall crane, and that's just to charge a single vehicle.",
"Man, I am trying, but I'm 2 minutes in and he's just repeating that they haven't built one yet therefore it must be bad.",
"Why are solar roadways dumb? I remember seeing them talked about like 17ish years ago and thought it was a neat idea.",
"I remember learning about a railway that transports rock down from a mountain quarry, and the recaptured energy from regenerative braking is enough to power a small adjacent city, or something like that. I wondered if this could be used as an energy storage system (i.e. run the train up during low demand and then down during high demand), but now I see there would be several problems with it.",
"So the issues are: blocks use concrete, can’t be close to wind, and low capacity.\n\n1. Use low carbon weights\n2. Don’t put near high wind zones. Construction areas use crane to place blocks in all kinds of areas, doesn’t seem to be an issue.\n3. Build capacity where it’s needed. It’s not the entire output of the turbines, it’s the excess generated from renewables that isn’t efficient to put into the grid at peak energy. Noon time solar has this issue.",
"about mechanical energy storage: I have been looking articles about flywheels for a while. To my understanding, rpm is more relevant that mass itself in terms of stored energy? That's why we don't build an Egyptian pyramid-sized flywheel to store terawatts of energy?",
">The \"product\" they had simply didn't exist.\n\nA physical manifestation of the idea did exist, they had a working engineering prototype at their lab that was rather impressive.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>They didn't solve the exorbitant cost.\n\nDuh, it was in the prototyping phase, economies of scale have not yet come into play. Do you know how expensive it is to develop and bespoke-produce prototype technology? Do you know how much it costs to constantly replace our concrete roads?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>using electricity to melt snow would use more energy in a day than the whole road made in a year\n\nNice to see you so glibly put a price on human life. Nobody cares if the thing was energy positive, solar power was never its best feature. And it really doesn't take that much energy, you only need a handful of watts to keep above freezing. That's why many newly built homes have electric foundation-heating driveways and garages.",
"Your post is both eloquent and eviscerating. Well done. Love # 3, I couldn't have put it better.",
"Just because a solution is superior in ideal circumstances, it does not become the ideal solution in all circumstances. Pumped hydro has very specific geographical requirements for its proper implementation. If those conditions are not met, alternative will need to be considered even if those alternatives are inferior on paper.",
"Pumped storage hydroelectricity is a thing? I came up with that kind of idea years ago and thought I was an idiot but couldn't figure out exactly why. \n\nMy idea was to do this using waterway locks near a large waterfall (like Niagara) so that the stored energy would sit in locks until it was needed.",
"Gravitricity is doing exactly that with abandoned mine shafts. \n\n\nI'm guessing the number of weights and size has something to do with the aforementioned wind problem.",
"Pump storage requires mountains. Wind is usually somewhere flat on the coast. It's a better idea for sure, just pointing this out for fairness.\n\nHonestly, I think the energy revolution is going to come from brute force abundance, mostly because that's the only solution that requires zero cooperation between large groups of people.\n\nIt's already kind of happening right now. Bunch of cheap ass wind energy in Texas and Ohio is attracting bitcoin miners. They're eating up the energy as fast as possible, encouraging more.\n\nOn a $ per kwh grid, like ercot, it's only profitable to mine during an energy abundance. No one is mining when the natural gas lines freeze and wind is literally all you've got left, because the price will jump to 20 or 30 cents per kwh.\n\nor, ya know, $9,000. Listen, Texas is crazy.\n\nBTC is incentivizing green electricity because green is the only thing that can out price coal on a windy day. And if the grid has 5X the \"human\" capacity at any given moment, because the other 400% is getting burnt into bitcoin, then you can withstand a natural disaster that knocks you down to 20% your grid's max by simply... turning off the S19's.\n\nIMO, BTC mining is the only thing that might solve the inherent problems of unreliable high yield green electricity. Every other solution requires a billion dollar investment or political cooperation.",
"Terrible traction, dirty means less power, break easily, don’t generate a lot of power, cost a shitload, asphalt roads are fantastic at being roads. \n\nIt’s like if the Air Force needed a new plane and tried to strap wings onto a submarine. Why build super strong solar panels when there is plenty of space elsewhere, like roofs or fields? Building solar panels *above* a road is a million times better than into the road.",
"wait, doesn't that follow the inverse square rule? So a tower half as high would be 1/4th the energy output? I'm no physicist.",
"> even just a tiny lift would result in large power output\n\nI just want to comment that this is a wrong statement, and likely why these concepts get such popularity.\n\nThe energy to lift any thing is always less than the energy retrieved from lowering the object.\n\nThese systems are in the 70-80 percent efficiency at best; thus up and down would have a cumulative loss of 40-60 percent. At best such a system would return roughly half the input energy as usable.",
"There's a mine somewhere in the UK I think that has an entirely gravity fed cart system on wires, they load at the top of a hill and refine at the bottom so there's alway enough extra weight to push the empty carts back up.",
"Solar roadways are beaten in every way by placing solar panels above or next to the road.",
"Why is no one in this thread taking about batteries? South Australia already uses batteries for wind energy storage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornsdale_Power_Reserve\n\nPotentially in the future car batteries could stay connected over night and be used to store energy and give some back to the grid when needed. Or you use power-to-gas to store the energy as hydrogen which you can convert back to energy later with a fuel cell. The solution is likely a combination of many different ideas.",
"True. Any truers?",
"My impression is that the issue the video is pointing out is that the energy in vs energy out efficiency's are really bad.\n\nWhat does it matter how large of a block is used? yes, a large block would provide a larger output; but also require a correspondingly large input ... how is it not just a scaled up version of this example?",
"Agreed, its like the exact formula of an antivax or flat earth video. Questionable math based on assumptions from cherry picked snippets of press releases and concept art, presented with a condescending tone, followed with their own pitch of an alternative solution backed up with even less factual analysis, propped up with a misinterpreted example of something tangentially related. \n\nI mean I'm also skeptical of this energy vault idea, but the way this guy presents his argument makes me assume he is wrong, and an asshole.",
"I thought he was talking about the huge tower of unsecured blocks and the wind?",
"Potential energy increases linearly with height or mass, by the formula m•g•h; mass times gravity times height.",
"Very true, would be neat to see them above roadways, maybe over the sidewalks to provide rain cover or something",
"You're forgetting about shipping and assembly. A single big crane needs an entirely different level of shipping than 6 smaller ones.",
"It isn’t a closed system because of evaporation.",
"> Nobody cares if the thing was energy positive, solar power was never its best feature.\n\nRemember to use your legs and not your back when moving goalposts.\n\nBut hey, nice of you to admit that **Solar** Roadways don't work.",
"I'm curious how they rationalize the lighter weight blocks. Isn't the entire purpose that the blocks are high density for \"large power\" ???\n\nAnd I'm even more curious why your friend stays there!?",
"It's because the amount of energy stored in a water tower is very small. A water tower holding a million gallons of water 50m in the air is good for about 500 kWh, which is roughly equivalent to 5-7 EV batteries. The proposed gravity storage example is 35 MWh, 70x more.",
"Pragmatic solution:\n\nEminent domain the bathtubs in every two bath, two story house. Repurpose for pumped hydro.\n\nThank me later 😎",
"THIS PLEASE IS A DON'T DUMB FALL IDEA FOR IT\n\n..What the hell does that mean?",
"yeah, you have no idea of the scale necessary. This isn't a \"get some trucks to drop it off\" situation.",
"You're really just rationalizing this particular design ...\n\nYes larger is more expensive etc as you say: I'm not suggesting you are wrong about any of that.\n\nWhat I'm suggesting is that you ignored the obvious reason why they chose this design: they want to lift stuff and so they chose a crane like they see in their city lifting stuff.\n\nThe designers don't know shit about cranes, design, potential energy nor machinery. They wanted something they could very easily buy some parts and put together into a demonstration prototype as cheaply and quickly as possible.\n\nA purpose built, very large system, capable of very heavy lift could be designed specifically for this problem: it wouldn't be quick or cheap to build a prototype though.",
"No it's not. Solar Roadways were stupid because they weren't solving any of the problems with roads or solar power and were actually making them both worse.\n\nGravity storage solves the problem of pumped storage because it could, theoretically, be deployed anywhere and not just locations with the geography to implement pumped storage.",
"I agree with you that this video is horrid.\n\nHowever, his premise is correct.\n\nJust consider the simple \"best case\".\n\nElectric generators used in wind turbine's etc are generally 70-80 percent efficient.\n\nThus raising the blocks and then lowering the blocks will have *at best* 40-60 percent energy loss.\n\nAn energy storage of 50 percent is horrid. and worthy of a snarky, equally horrid, video debunking.",
"I didn't think he was presenting hydro as a \"equal alternative\" but rather as a demonstration that existing concepts of potential energy storage already exist and have problems with why they aren't hugely widespread.\n\nBut, regardless, a shitty concept debunked by a crap video ... :)>",
"90% efficiency for a battery is pretty good. The production and distribution losses from energy sources will stay the same regardless of the battery technology.",
"You could build walls around it to remove wind pressure",
"By protostar it is confirmed, lucky guess by me. Ha.",
"This. \nthings he's also ignorant of are economics and modularity. This system is made of more or less off the shelf products and can be placed wherever wind or solar already are. You don't need to find property suited for it, do a separate environmental assessment, run additional lines to the grid, absorb transmission losses between the source of generation and storage etc etc. \n\n\nHis only argument that made any sense is the wind one, and like you said it's not that complicated and we've already figured it out. Any winds strong enough to stop the ability of a crane to operate would probably also lock out the turbines. \n\n\nAnd the 35mWH? It's literally the demonstration plant. The plans are 5 times that. \n\n\nThe biggest reason this isn't a shit idea though is the costs. They're promising $40mwH, and there's good reason to believe it because again, they aren't reinventing the wheel here, it's just a tower crane and some blocks.",
"Hardly an issue, you just cast it in place.",
"> Quay cranes \n\nHey American's ... it's pronounced key and means \"pier\".",
"> we can't physically build enough pumped hydro\n\nno see; build basic water tower + pump...\n***\nnow you have removed a lot of the problems of wear when compared to complicated cranes + deteriorating concrete. \n\nand you have a superior solution to this jenga tower abomination.\n\nscale it to the same size/volume as the proposed jengatower ^(note that jenga tower starts from ground level so just make the water tower start from there too) and you should end up with a better solution (at least in control over flow-rate/energy extraction). \n\nIf you want multiple 'blocks' go for multiple water-containers stacked, connected by pipes to turbines/pumps... still more reliable (you've moved the failiures to the pump, and leaks from snapping lines etc)",
"Of course the output is less than the input, that's not at issue, the complexity of the device is.",
"Because you can use exciting technology. \n\nAs/rs (warehouse cranes) manufacturers do the same thing at the moment.\n\nPersonally i think the initial costs are way too high.",
"Some of them are real people who really want karma and the internet validation matters to them so they manually do it.",
"In California there are plenty of places where hydro power would be seasonal at best, but pumped hydro would make sense.\n\nRanch seco is built on a hot dry valley floor. They've repurposed the nuclear transmission lines to transmit power from a solar farm and there's a resivoir nearby that's being outfitted for pumped hydro storage.\n\nIt's hot, dry and sunny for a lot of the year at rancho seco, and they've already created massive water works there to support a nuclear plant that the community turned against.\n\nThere's a lot of room in California to create solar farms on the valley floor with hydroelectric energy stores in the nearby hills. Those hills are dry af most of the year and likely not that useful for traditional hydroelectric power",
">It is expensive, not as expensive as the giant Jenga tower though, which was the point of the video.\n\nExcept it literally isn't. Real estate and environmental assessments are a HUGE portion of the cost, you can put up a crane and some concrete blocks anywhere you want. Everything is build from off the shelf products. The biggest selling point of this wholes system is that it's stupid cheap and easy to build compared to all the alternatives.",
"> Imminent \n\n* Eminent",
"Im an architect and many of this criticisms are valid. Wind would mess up the precision needed to lift objects so high and stack them without reinforcement. Banging blocks together over and over would damage them. Concrete takes a crazy amount of CO2 to make. Much more than digging a hole in the ground. Pumping water is less complicated than lifting objects and stacking them really high. Every location in the world besides an old lake bed has natural elevation. I live in flat central Indiana, but there is still a grade change. \n\nI think he is invalidating how expensive it is to build underground. \n\nI like the idea I saw a while ago where it is a series of trains on a rail track that go up and down a hill better. less ability for accidents.",
"A few things why we wouldn't. First, yeah, a doubling of mass only doubles the energy stored while a doubling of speed quadruples the energy stored.\n\nMy knee-jerk reaction to why we wouldn't use large flywheels is due to cost of manufacturing something that big, the logistics of making a wheel that big balanced, the friction and wear on the support spindles, and the drag from air / the inability to make a vacuum that big.\n\nHigher speeds only work in a vacuum, otherwise drag would overcome the benefit of faster speeds.",
"Wait. So the daily energy from 2 wind turbines is enough to stack up a giant concrete tower?",
"...but pumped hydro isn't a solution, because we can't build enough of it, so it's a partial solution at best and realistically it's a non-solution because the economics of the remaining sites make them non-viable economically.",
"I enjoyed the 2006 documentary, Flushed Away.",
"> 99% of the time\n\nyou should look into this a bit more.\n\nYes, 99% of the time drivers enable it the system works.\n\nThat does not translate to 99% of driving is feasible via current FSD.\n\nIn other words; drivers enable FSD on the highway which is one of the easiest environments for it to function. \n\nHighway driving might be where you spend the most clock time and mileage; however as a driver it is where you spend the least cognitive effort in driving. The non-highway driving FSD success is ... not great.\n\nAlso, conflating the concept of autonomous driving with a specific implementation and then arguing that implementation's success if backwards. There are better implemented systems with greater potential.",
"I mean, you could try explaing the same thing without sounding like a jerk while showing the world how much smarter you are. Some ideas work, some others don't. Some ideas can work if you improve on them.",
"Lol, no you can't. That's like saying you could power your car off of double a batteries because electric cars are efficient. The steel production alone would wipe out any climate advantages. Pumped hydro stations use entire lakes worth of water for a reason.",
"Y\"all are being ignorant about the scale of pumped hydro for the return you get. A 55 gallon drum of water 3 stories high holds as much power as a AA battery. A whole floor of a building would produce enough energy for at most a few hours, probably not even an hour.",
"I would add.... In design there are these things called \"prototypes\" and \"concept renderings.\" If you take the pretty rendering as absolute fact, you're a total idiot. There's still years of actual engineering that go on from concept to execution. Shit might look \"cool and sci fi\" in the rendering because it was done by an artist. Things look very different when its go time.",
"The fact that he recommended Thunderfoot was a big red flag already.",
"Terrible take shitting on innovation just to shit on it.",
"Yeah not giving thunderfoot any clicks since he did like 6 months worth of \"feminism is bad because science\" videos. That guy is a chud.",
"I feel like this design doesn't even reach the high school level of potential energy understanding.\n\nThe farther down the tower you go, the lower the energy stored. A lot of their storage potential is wasted because they use their mass AS their height. Every other gravitational energy storage design separates these - with a hill or a dam etc.\n\nAnd even if there is no hill/dam, they still have no reason to use a thousand blocks over one giant block. They could get the same energy storage with much less concrete.\n\nSeems like they focused on A E S T H E T I C S like all these other bullshit start-ups",
"The Omega Tau podcast had a really good episode on a concept for using a huge block of rock to augment a pumped hydro storage system.\n\nhttps://omegataupodcast.net/299-gravity-storage/",
"Yeah, flywheel storage is kinetic, which scales linearly with mass but with the square of rpm and radius. The biggest problem is losses due to friction etc., which makes them unsuitable for long term energy storage, I've only ever seen them used as a short term buffer.",
"*sigh.*\n\n>No they didn't. It was a mockup that met none of their ridiculously ambitious engineering goals; they didn't even claim they could meet the goals because, as I already mentioned, some of them were physically impossible with the technology they had chosen. If I showed you an Estes model rocket, does that make me the next SpaceX; I HaVe A pHySiCaL MaNiFeStAtIoN!\n\nWrong. A mockup is a model that doesn't work. What they had is a proof-of-concept. They took their DOR grant and made a prototype section of road 16 feet wide or so, that actually works and implements every feature they were designing for. In the engineering world we call that a prototype, not a mockup, and if you'd built anything other than shitty takes in your basement, you'd know that. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Economies of scale aren't fucking magic. We actually DO have economies of scale on tempered glass and on solar cells, and using the lowest price estimates possible then cutting them in half again for good measure, and you still have a product that will never be price competitive with the obvious solution (putting solar panels ABOVE roadways).\n\nSolar energy generation was not their primary benefit, IMHO. Their primary benefit was that the tech economically kept the roads from freezing, which could save tens of thousands of lives a year. Like I said, a failure in marketing.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>I'm thinking you're just a troll now. You understand that the energy to melt roadway ice simply doesn't exist.\n\n*laughs in electrically heated driveways*\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>it's a matter of what's physically possible given the technology available to us\n\nIt is physically possible, because it's been *done.* The issue is that nobody's politically interested in seeing it done at-scale.",
"Which the heavy block storage solution is meant to solve. I think it has a good use case and iteration over time will improve it.",
"Sudden, but fair",
">The only reason why they were shat on is because they weren't energy-positive solar panels\n\nNO. They were crappy idea all the way - expensive, with poor performance and poor traction. Being energy-negative was just an icing on the cake.\n\nIf you want heated roads you can build heated roads. With the traction like a normal road but heated. You can make them with asphalt or black-coloured concrete so they will absorb all the heat energy from sun for heating.\n\nIf you want to place solar panels you can do so with regular panels. You can even place them near the roads. Now the solar panels can heat the road but that won't be enough because when you have a freezing road it's usually dark. But it will work better and at the fraction of cost of the solar roadways.",
">Remember to use your legs and not your back when moving goalposts.\n\nI never moved the goalposts, jackass. I said that the project was a failure of marketing, not engineering. The DOR grant project met all of it's design goals, the reason why it failed IMHO was because it presented itself as a energy-generation technology, not a \"hey we could save tens of thousands of lives a year while also saving billions in infrastructure costs and hey even generate a few watts on the side\" technology.",
"Even if we just covered the top of every big box store, warehouse, mall, and school in the country with solar panels, and then covered all the parking lots for those locations in solar panel topped parking shelters, that's an absolute fuckton of surface area, plus the covered cars are now protected from hail, snow, rain, and can be lit with efficient, low light pollution LED sources underneath providing safety and security, plus the whole infrastructure would be easy to equip with the charging infrastructure needed for electric cars.",
"> but pumped hydro would make sense\n\nHow does it make sense? You even state California is \"dry af\".\n\nThe block solution is better for desert environments.",
"Hmm, do I want to listen to a guy powered by only ego gab on for 20 minutes?\n\nNo. No I'm good thanks.",
"But the angry YouTuber told me it was dumb and make funny voices mocking it :'(",
"Sure, [here's an article](https://www.nrel.gov/news/features/2020/declining-renewable-costs-drive-focus-on-energy-storage.html) summarizing the results of [a study by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory](https://www.nrel.gov/analysis/re-futures.html). From the article:\n\n>NREL’s Renewable Electricity Futures Study estimated that 120 gigawatts of storage would be needed across the continental United States by 2050, when the scenario imagined a future where 80% of electricity will come from renewable resources. The country currently has 22 gigawatts of storage from pumped hydropower, and another gigawatt in batteries.\n\nPutting that together with the article I'd linked above, if we assume that we could double our pumped hydro capacity, that gets us 44 gigawatts, out of the 120 that we'd need to support 80% renewable energy. Also note that 100% renewables would need *significantly* more storage (in order to maintain reliability, storage requirements would scale up exponentially the closer we get to 100% renewables; 80% is a much more realistic target).",
"Fair point. Again, I'm happy with discussion and problem solving. Not loosing too much karma over my own education. :D",
"building something like this at decomissioned nuclear plants would actually be a pretty good idea considering they already have all the transmission infrastructure and piles of concrete.",
"Good idea to use parking lots for their space. Not to mention, having them act as a cover for people so they're not walking in rain/snow is good.",
"It was only potential energy.",
"Making thousands of concrete bricks destroys any hope of cost effectiveness.\n\nPlus with all the load cycling from stacking, those bricks are gonna crack and that tower is gonna fall. Or they're gonna need constant replacement.\n\nIn terms of energy storage, the bricks store less as you go down. A single giant block would store 100% of the distance you winch it up.\n\nJust build a specialized winch for storing energy rather than buy up construction equipment with all that useless extra functionality. Shit just needs to go up/down\n\nHow about we compromise - 10 medium sized blocks rather than 1 giant block or 1000 tiny blocks. Each block gets its own apparatus none of the blocks have to touch the ground or each other",
"I love this guy so much. He slams the shit out of these pie in the sky dipshits who just want to rip people off with their \"futuristic\" green inventions. And with such beautiful sarcasm. Hyperloop anyone???",
"Concrete also tends to generate large amounts of dust, especially when moving constantly. I'd image that increase friction over time and decrease efficiency.",
">expensive\n\ndo you know how much money local governments spend a year on road construction? The initial cost-to-implement would of been high, granted, but a huge benefit of the tech was it's modular construction. Damage caused to one part of the road could be directly repaired by replacing a few panels instead of replacing the entire thing wholesale every few years like we do with our current road technology.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>If you want heated roads you can build heated roads. With the traction like a normal road but heated. You can make them with asphalt or black-coloured concrete so they will absorb all the heat energy from sun for heating.\n\nHeated roads wasn't the only benefit, it was the primary benefit. Programmable lanes, decentralized power distribution that's below ground, and modular repair were all also substantial features.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>If you want to place solar panels you can do so with regular panels. You can even place them near the roads. Now the solar panels can heat the road but that won't be enough because when you have a freezing road it's usually dark. But it will work better and at the fraction of cost of the solar roadways.\n\nAgain, power generation should have never been marketed as the primary benefit. A solar panel that is orthogonal to the ground and has cars driving over it will never be as efficient as a solar panel that is orthogonal to the sun and is on a dedicated mount. What was innovative about the idea is that they had four or five technologies working synergistically with each other in order to produce a better driving experience, and that has been unjustly and cynically mocked in pop culture.",
"So the biggest problem with ALL these ideas is we have relatively cheap technology to build and maintain roads, we have relatively cheap technology to build solar panels, and any attempt to \"combine\" the two just makes them more expensive, all while trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.\n\nYou know what's a lot more effective and cheaper than solar roadways or building tunnels our of solar panels? Just building solar panels next to the roads. Here in the US, we are not short on land area for building solar panels. We don't NEED to combine roads and solar panels, as land is not the limiting factor for solar panel construction.",
"If he recommends a Thunderfoot video you know it's going to be questionable at best.",
"Transporting large concrete blocks should pose similar problems as transporting large tanks of water. There might be some limited locations where you can create concrete from local resources, but the number of locations where you locally have material that can be mined to create concrete and don't have access to water seems limited.",
"As in double the density of the concrete? I would imagine much of the mechanical properties of the concrete are determined by structural and loading requirements and it wouldn’t be possible to simply double the density.",
"I remember reading about an idea to use train cars filled with gravel on a long hill with a small slope. Anything happen with this technology?",
"Another fun concept is to use excess current to winch weighted traincars uphill and let them roll back when current is needed.\n\nGiant crane concrete tower device seems ludicrous.",
"There's atleast one place that is filling buckets either rocks and cable-carring them up & down a mountain for electricity.",
"> Every time we “store” energy with methods like this, there is a lot if heat loss in using some electricity to lift the blocks. Every time we “regenerate” energy by lowering blocks, a huge amount of the stored potential energy is lost to heat as well. This has heat loss on both sides!\n\nEnergy storage systems aren't being designed by people unaware of the laws of thermodynamics. Yes, the engineers who work in energy know that conversion leads to loss 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️. This is fundamentally not a system conversion problem (that math and modeling is relatively easy). This is fundamentally a lifecycle problem, and you seem to have largely missed what the problem is.\n\nAlternative storage systems are interesting because battery construction relies on rare earth metals, which are extremely costly and therefore targeted towards much higher value applications (cars, phones, computers). If we want to convert municipalities to renewable energy, we need larger scale storage solutions without the upfront cost and lifecycle maintenance costs of batteries. While batteries are rechargeable, the **renewable** battery tech isn't there yet.\n\nThese ideas are still in development and some of them will suck. But, you seriously think nobody working on energy storage systems thought of batteries??? Really???",
"Stupid question: Since water requires a special environmental area to store, pump, etc... Why not use sand?",
"Ah, but it's a question of scale. One building, low output, many buildings, high output. \nAs a community project it could make sense. Inputs may require individual pumps but outputs could be connected into a single outflow. \nPart of the questioning in this sub is the unsuitability of terrain to produce large sale hydro storage. All I was suggesting is using existing infrastructure. \n\nImagine a tank 6\"\" deep on every floor of a high-rise...",
"Can anyone ELI5 on this I have to be missing something. I understand using excess energy but not really what the point of the tall ass tower is since it doesn't look like the tower itself has any real use.. what am I missing?",
"This video is not great. \n\n1. Concrete is not environmentally friendly - A perfectly valid observation, but it suddenly disappears when he declares pumped storage to be the superior alternative. I think he is in for a rude awakening when he discovers how much concrete is needed for hydro power, even in pumped storage.\n\n2. Environmentally friendly bricks can't be produced everywhere and \"look like\" they won't last - No explanation on the limitations for production/transport of these environmentally friendly bricks, and his assessment of their durability is based on eyeballing them.\n\n3. Wind - An actual valid criticism! Yes, wind would definitely be an issue with stacking the bricks. Not to say it's insurmountable, but this would be an engineering challenge that has to be solved.\n\n4. Low capacity - 35 MWh is pretty significant, particularly given the small footprint? He also compares it to storing a wind turbine's entire output which is not the purpose of online storage. The point is to store surplus production, so it would be a fraction of many turbines' output, not the total output of two turbines.\n\n5. Gantry crane - How does this solve the wind problem? Does wind not blow through gantry cranes? He does know that tower cranes already exist, right? You're also drastically reducing the height which means you need to drastically increase the weight of the blocks, which means more concrete is needed to achieve the same storage.\n\n6. Underground storage - Excavation has HUGE environmental impacts on top of the enormous energy required, particularly with the amount of depth required for the potential energy needed to be effective.\n\n7. Underground pumped storage - You haven't solved the problem of the lack of height needed for effective stored energy\n\n8. Pumped storage - Definitely the most popular online energy storage, but has tons of geographical requirements on top of the environmental impact and concrete needed.",
"I promise you excavating and reinforcing a giant hole in the mountains is orders of magnitude more expensive than this \"Jenga tower\". And if you'd rather we just damn up all the valleys then I think you've lost sight of why we're trying to use clean energy in the first place",
"No, it was a stupid inefficient concept.\n\nSelf heating roads? Hahahahahahaha",
"Even the benefits like \"redraw traffic lines at your leisure\" isn't a big benefit. 99%+ of roads don't need their lines changed, and roads that do have lanes that shift with commutes use jersey walls and road signs. Also having lanes disappear during a power outage is not worth any benefit of lane shifting.",
"A dry, low-tech alternative concept is to use excess current to winch weighted traincars uphill and let them roll back down when needed. As the winches unspool they spin a turbine generator.",
"Yeah, fuck all the 38,000 Americans who die on the roads every year. Who wants to prevent those deaths anyway, right?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nGood to see your hubris and ignorance getting people killed. How *do* you sleep at night?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nTL;DR: \"*Horseless carriages?!* Hahahahahahaha\"",
"Plus, with a long enough pipeline you could get New York City to pump the water out of their subway for free! Synergy baby!",
"Pertinent.",
"Right? Heating something dense like a road takes a ton of energy.",
"Absolute PUNKS!",
"Here's a crazy idea, use 5% less electricity so we're not tempted to build these nutty ideas to produce power we don't need.",
"Is self driving only works 99% of the time, you still need a driver. Tesla's version of self-driving is at best a misnamed safety feature.\n\nTeslas has an issue where cars would speed up and run into things (like cop cars and guard rails). So they fixed it, but [the patch caused the vehicles to do sporadic heavy braking](https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-11-03/teslas-handling-braking-bug-in-public-self-driving-test). So they've turned off the feature for the last month and currently Tesla \"Full Self Driving\" works 0% of the time.\n\nThere's just limits to technology. \"Software update\" has become this new ridiculous argument against the limits of physical hardware.",
"While I agree the idea is stupid, I kind of like the idea of these things moving concrete blocks up and down, long after our civilization is gone. Then, in 5000 years, they will be discovered by archaeologists who will have no idea what it is and who built it.",
"It's a battery, it charges while there is excess electricity generated by moving the blocks up the tower, then when there is a bigger demand for electricity it drops them back to the ground to generate some of the electricity back that was used to move the block up",
"Maybe they are getting something from the weight to strength ratio that I don’t know about, but reinforced concrete is great in compression and there is plenty of research out there to take from, so I’m pretty sure this is just to say it’s more ECO. As for the people I know there, it’s an engineering job that pays well with interesting challenges, it doesn’t really matter that the concept is BS.",
"Thanks for the source. I'm still surprised flywheels are an effective method. Based purely on my own ignorance it feels like one of the more friction-inducing mechanisms.",
"Funny enough the install where they have their first one is in the hills. Like they could have just taken advantage of that and saved a ton of money not having to make the lower supporting blocks.",
">Aiming to mass produce batteries in the hope that some of it can be recycled maybe is a bit short sighted, dont you think? \n\nI mean, yeah. That's literally what I'm talking about. We *can* recycle a lot of things, batteries/solar panels included, just that it's not profitable to do so (yet?), so businesses obviously don't do that.\n\nThe issue is you can't reuse batteries and solar panels indefinitely. Eventually (5-20 years, depending on conditions and such) they lose enough of their ability to function to be useful. Sure, you could use a battery that charges to 5% total, but why would you? Much better to support (financially, in this case) actually recycling the material allowing for it to be reused even more.",
"I wonder if it would be feasible to put some turbines into sewage and/or storm drainage systems to take advantage of moving water under every city as a form of micro-generation.",
"I always see this guy's videos being posted, but it's just like...I've watched them. He basically just talks out his ass about how every new technology is dumb, except trains trains are the best at everything, trains, trains, trains. \n\nHe just always talks about trains and public transit and just general boring establishment leftist talking points. (\"We don't need innovation, we all need to accept a shit standard of living and stand shoulder to shoulder on the tube like I learned to in my former Soviet Bloc country!\")\n\nBah. His channel feels more like LeftTube than a technology blog, right down to where they pretend to not be leftist so they can draw in the moderates before we're driven off by the first whiff of partisan musk.",
"The water on different elevations could be pumped to the top only during the day with solar power running the pumps. Release the water during the night to generate electricity, repeat the next day.",
"I think rather than lifting the weight an hydraulic system pushing the weight up would be better suited?",
"Here's your tradeoffs. Height, cross-section, ballast density. You can go drill deep and suffer the problems of that like heat, gases, hardness etc or you can go up and face the wind and structural integrity of the tower/block system. You can make a really wide hold or tower instead, but then you need the holding structure that can span that space. Or you can increase the density of the material you are lifting, but that means its more expensive and harder to get. Generally you can see that there is a happy medium of about where either mines usually stop going deeper or where normal building cranes stop going higher and using very cheap and durable materials or something at the site. Also if you are stacking the materials you need to make sure they can at least support the height you are stacking them, but also that they can be formed easy enough.",
"Eminem",
"No way. Pumped hydro can reuse the same water over and over again with minimal losses if it's constructed properly, and even in SoCal the cost per tonne of water is like, a few dollars tops.",
"Hey! We've got a mountain.\n\nOkay we've called it a mountain because it's simply that much of an outlier, but it's pretty tiring to walk to the top!",
"Yeah, no clue if the energy vault is practical. But I've yet to see Adam Something present a good argument on why a given technology sucks. \n\nHe's super condescending and seems to not even entertain the possibility that he's wrong. There's a weird old man shouts at cloud energy to it SPACEX WILL NEVER TAKE OFF SPACE IS DUMB ONLY TRAINS EAT THE RICH HAH AMERICA shut up Hungarian, your country isn't real.",
"Yes, you need a lot of water to be put into it at some point, but that can be done rather slowly. Once the water is there, it mostly doesn't need replacing, especially if you do things like put black balls on it.",
"For fuck sake. There weren't any benefits because there wasn't a product or even a prototype that meet all the marketing buzzwords.\n\nThere are modular roads made from concrete blocks. Surprise - they're awful to ride on for a long time due to noise and more expensive than concrete poured on site.\n\n>Heated roads wasn't the only benefit, it was the primary benefit. Programmable lanes, decentralized power distribution that's below ground, and modular repair were all also substantial features.\n\nIt was the primary, unattainable due to the energy output bulshit \"benefit\".\n\nProgramable lanes are done already with big led displays over the roads. Cheaper. \n\nPartial repair is done with current roads - you cut out the damaged part and pour new one. Can be done along a length of the road during night. Expensive panels that are \"easy\" to repair don't really bring costs down when the panels are expensive.\n\n>What was innovative about the idea is that they had four or five technologies working synergistically with each other in order to produce a better driving experience\n\nTo provide what? Sorry, but the primary goal of the road is to support weight of vehicles and provide traction for vehicles.\n\nWe put road signs above or beside roads because the painted ones are destroyed pretty quickly by abrasion. Nothing, absolutely nothing, about solar roadways was a good idea.",
"Yeah, you could replace the concrete blocks with any dense, structurally sound object. But you don't require the very specific geographical requirements for pumped storage.",
"You absolutely need an abundant water source, are you kidding?",
"ok I sort of understand, I'm really not THAT stupid of a person mind you.. I guess I'm just missing how this is better than a normal battery unless the tower itself has some sort of worth. I guess unless they are saying \"the tower itself is a battery and that is better than a conventional battery because reasons..\" Thanks for trying though, it's me not you.",
"Scale. To increase capacity of battery storage you need more expensive batteries. Water, is a lot easier to come by and you can often use existing geography to 'build' the capacity for you.\n\nThe only argument against this is really just that it wont work in some arid climates due to evaporation which is why, I imagine, the PR video looks like its in the desert. It seems like someone at their company must know too.",
"These things would be built all over the place as temporary energy storage, slowly lifting through the day with excess energy production and them slowly dropping during the night to fill baseline or burst demand.",
"this is golden",
"The lower the energy stored the further you go down, but isn’t that ok? You spend less energy stacking the lower levels anyway and the higher levels would be the ones used first when needed. \n\nAs for why not one large block, I would assume it has to do with physical capabilities of a crane? Certainly a block large enough to generate 38 stored MWh for a day would be as much as the total weight of all these blocks? If such a crane exists I would assume it would be massive and extremely expensive.",
"While I'm not saying Energy Vault will work (because figuring that requires actual math and engineering), saying this is dumb because hydro reservoirs already exist is also ignorant. Energy Vault was based off the concept of gravity fed hydro plants, but was designed to be a solution for places *where you could not build two hydro reservoirs* because geography, or water scarcity would not make it practical. So this video's thesis of \"just build a hydro plant!\" completely fails to comprehend the problem that this solution is meant to solve.\n\nYES! Hydro plants exist. We get it. Now, show me a solution that can provide power at a municipal scale for locations where a hydro plant cannot be built. 🦗🦗",
"A single building likely wouldn't provide enough energy storage to provide for the people within for any reasonable amount of time. So what exactly are you planning to scale here?",
"It's not easier to have that many weights to manage, it makes more sense to have fewer larger weights. You wouldn't lift it with just one large motor, but you can use fewer motors which simplifies everything else dramatically which reduces the risk of downtime.\n\nYou can build redundancy into a single weight as well.\n\nA job site is a very different beast than a permanent installation. Would you rather have 32 cranes to manage or four on a permanent installation?\n\nYou have the same redundancy at each install and the same maintenance intervals, but one has far fewer interconnects, motors, sumps, computers, etc...",
"It's funny how for every problem found about solar roadways the immediate solution is 'what if we put the solar panels somewhere else?'",
"Well. I downvoted you because on one hand you put a lots of effort into your trolling, but on the other hand you're either delusional or a troll after all.\n\nMarketing is the *last* think solar roadways were lacking",
"Burn",
">For fuck sake. There weren't any benefits because there wasn't a product or even a prototype that meet all the marketing buzzwords.\n\nThis is just not true. They had a prototype that met the design requirements of the initial SBIR grant that they received from the DOR because they had to in order to satisfy the conditions of the grant. The marketing wonkery was an attempt to expand out beyond the scope of that grant stage.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n> energy output bulshit \"benefit\".\n\nEnergy output wasn't the primary benefit. Are we talking past each other?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Programable lanes are done already with big led displays over the roads. Cheaper.\n\nNot as programmable as \"programmable lane lines\" would be, and cheaper is debatable, considering you have to constantly replace concrete road infrastructure.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>We put road signs above or beside roads because the painted ones are destroyed pretty quickly by abrasion. \n\nThey actually worked with Corning to develop a glass surface that was so tough that it actually started eating up rubber tires in driving simulations. They had to dial the \"grip factor\" down quite a bit before they were happy with the DOR prototype.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Nothing, absolutely nothing, about solar roadways was a good idea.\n\nWhy is it that the dunning-kruger brigade always comes out in an inquisition whenever solar roads are mentioned? Reddit is weird.",
"> Pumped hydro can reuse the same water over and over again with minimal losses if it's constructed properly,\n\nWow, a system not affected by evaporation, that's quite the technical feat.",
"Yeah I'm not jot rly a person who should do eli5 either\n\nBut a conventional battery of that size would probably be way to expensive to produce and maintain and has lots of potential for things to go bad real fast",
"I honestly forgot about the \"redraw traffic lines\" concept. Its something that sounds genius at first until you really sit down and think about it and realize it's incredibly impractical. Yeah and losing your lines during a power outage makes it a hard pass",
"Yeah, that's a good idea. Hydraulics has much less loss then cable tension.",
">An estes model rock is a \"proof of concept\" by your stupid definition. My point stands\n\nNo, this is wrong, and again the concept flies straight over your head. How hard is it to understand \"worky\" versus \"no worky\"? The only issue solar roadways had was with scaling, not with functionality.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>No its not. This was never a benefit\n\n[Laughably wrong. Did you even watch the video?](https://youtu.be/qlTA3rnpgzU?t=75) \n\nPretty obvious that you're just parroting here.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>. As I already mentioned. USA doesn't produce this much electricty. Even with solar freaking roadways we wouldn't. We'd need to build 100 new nuclear power plants and strip mine all of our coal and maybe we could have the energy output to melt ice on roads.\n\nNope, you're off by orders-of-magnitude, and you're not even thinking about carbon spending correctly. Again, heated driveways exist, they cost roughly $120 per thousand sqft to run, and those are not even that efficient since they're in direct contact with the ground -- a solar roadway is not in direct contact with the ground.\n\nAnd even if it does take a lot of energy to power a nationwide grid of heated roads nationwide, so what? Have you considered how much energy it takes to mine, ship, and throw salt on the ground every year? To build and ship new cars due to the corrosion? Do you know how much CO2 it takes to produce concrete? (Hint: a butt-ton), do you know how much it takes to transport it and lay it out year after year on the roads? Have you factored that into a net equation?\n\nOf course not, because you're hive-minding talking points that you don't understand.",
"This is 1860s tech. There are pumped water storage facilities all around the world .",
"I’m thinking we could easily take water, or any liquid for that matter, and start thinking about current building structure. We could make it so that when energy is plentiful most tall building start saving that energy. Say enough to power themselves for three days at max capacity. Then when it’s not, or situations where there are outages, the pump storage adds the to grid. \n\nWe could add water towers to the top of a lot buildings, we could add them to new buildings. Smart architects could make this beautiful at the same time. We should have current water towers upgraded to give running water, we need as a utility, and electricity. \n\nHowever, the biggest problem with battery storage of electricity in America is…we don’t really need it. We basically use every single watt of power as it’s produced, because some plants can ramp up and down production, unlike renewables which ram up and down production based on outside factors, (tides, temperatures, cloud cover, wind velocity etc.) They can’t choose to do that at will, per se. Coal, gas, nuclear can add or subtract the fuel to the fire. \n\nHowever, it’s not like every country in world has this problem. \n\nAnd I don’t think our current solution of, massive energy plants that power whole states…is the future. I see much more individual power production with innovations on using gravity, light, wind and and water. Most big plants are coal and gas, and there is a lot of work done before that fuel even gets to produce any electricity, and even with nuclear the problem is minimal comparatively but it is still there. And that not even considering climate change.\n\nI want every roof on every new house and building in every country to have some sort of solar panel, I want more wind turbine, I want more wave turbines. And I want that to be a part of construction at every level. I want a energy construction boom brought on because we regulated new construction to think bout producing energy. I want to end our coal dependence one house roof at a time. \n\nI’m fine with trying to do things and figuring it out to do that. And that mean certain technologies die…but that almost is never true even old technologies find unique solutions to problem that we still use. So let him build this battery find the good things and the bad about it, and adapt.",
"Yeah, I grew up near an old lock system from the late 1800s and that's where I came up with the idea. \n\nI figured you could avoid pumps by using water displacement in the locks to force the water up without needing an impeller.",
">I guess I'm just missing how this is better than a normal battery \n\nA battery will degrade with charge cycles and you need materials for batteries that aren't that great for the environment. \n\nThis thing will last for decades and will still have 100% capacity. It is cheaper to build and can be scaled to the need. It can be built everywhere. \n\nThe video is pretty bad and half of his arguments are false or cherry picked.",
"I think there's a mine in China (?) that does something similar. They have a giant electric truck that takes the raw material downhill to be processed. On the way down, regenerative braking (with the full load) charges the battery enough to get the empty truck all the way back up the hill",
"thanks for this.",
"Thanks for this, I get it now. Much appreciated.",
"I am not specialist in the field, but I would assume that putting turbines in the sewer system would would probably cause blockages. Putting them in the storm drains would at best an intermittent power source and during an actual storms it might cause flooding.",
"It's very abrasive and harder to move than water. It'll wear down the components way too fast and it doesn't flow like water does.",
"sorry but this guy is an idiot",
"I’m trying to imagine an imminent domain. That domain over there, it is imminent I tell ya. Gonna be on ya before you know it.",
"That's why you only drink from the lower pool!",
"*Hawaii has entered the chat*",
"Thunderf00t did a vid on this a few years ago. Strongly recommend checking it out along with the rest of his “busted” series of vids.",
"Evaporation.",
"You can cover the holding pools to limit evaporation: or just build them underground. Water is easier to deal with than blocks, simply because it doesn't get damaged. Those blocks would get covered in dust, every move wearing them down a little more. Eventually they wouldn't stack well.\n\nWater may evaporate some, but it doesn't get damaged. This also doesn't need to be drinking water quality, but you could use some power to purify seawater to fill these as well. Then they could sort of double as an emergency supply of drinking water.",
"Which guy and why?",
"This guy sucks. I've always enjoyed a good debunking video generally from trained engineers like eevblog. I remember coming across his videos on YouTube and finding them interesting. Then at some point it clicked that this guy has no idea what he's talking about and is only good at presenting his videos in a way that makes him seem authoritative.\n\nHis last video on electric busses is embarrassing.",
"That and it takes a lot of power to decently light a line that can be seen during the day. Reflective paint is CHEAP and uses the sun or your headlights for \"power\".",
">Concrete takes a crazy amount of CO2 to make. Much more than digging a hole in the ground.\n\nYou're going to need the concrete after digging the hole anyway though, otherwise what's it lifting? The wind does make sense though, I forgot about that, but I think there could be work arounds that woudl be cheaper than excavating that amount of earth. \n\n\n\\> I think he is invalidating how expensive it is to build underground.\n\nAgreed, the amount of surveying and core sampling alone. \n\nThe train idea is cool though",
"Or one GIANT weight on a track going uphill. A small winch geared WAY the fuck down and a generator. No stacking and less building (providing you can find a hill). No hill, just dig that hole with a ramp. \n\nWater works well because, why have a track when you can have a pipe with fewer moving parts. Dig deep enough holes and you can keep the entire thing underground if you need to.",
"Because what happens when your flywheel storing many terawatt-hours of energy fails? It releases all that energy instantly, like a bomb, so you need to put it in a bunker and have all sorts of other safety precautions. It's much easier to deal with partial failures of a battery system or even this block thing. There's really no way to deal with a 'partial' failure of a flywheel.",
"Where geology does not allow sunken chambers or reservoirs, maybe the whole thing could be surrounded with a windshield. You'd have to use quarried granite blocks to reduce co2 impact from making all that concrete. Ultimately I think it's not feasible.",
"Are we talking about the prototype that had many broken panels after foot traffic over them?\n\n>Not as programmable as \"programmable lane lines\"\n\nIs that a problem? My fridge doesn't need to run doom, thank you. \n\nAlso, we don't use programmable lanes too often, because people drive by memory and they're less safe. You would need moving barriers to make them safer.\n\n>and cheaper is debatable, considering you have to constantly replace concrete road infrastructure.\n\nWait, wait, wait? So you think those panels are everything that's needed to make a road? You know typical roads have layered construction right?\n\nHow do you know if you wouldn't need to constantly replace individual panels which requires more work than just removing/pouring concrete?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>They actually worked with Corning to develop a glass surface that was so tough that it actually started eating up rubber tires in driving simulations. They had to dial the \"grip factor\" down quite a bit before they were happy with the DOR prototype.\n\nCan you link some write up? It sounds interesting. Also, how resistant was that surface to wear? Normal roads are still quite grippy even when layer after layer gets removed.\n\n>whenever solar roads are mentioned\n\nWhy there is always a bunch of people advocating this terrible idea/potential scam over and over again?",
"Above makes the most sense to me. Tom Scott had a video on overhead power lines (like have been used for trains for over a century) being used on highways. If you're already building a structure over the highway anyway, maybe put some solar panels on it?\n\nBut actually driving on top of solar panels... that seems really silly.",
"Oh, so, the problem of \"how do we store the excess power\" from wind and solar is... just solved. Sweet.",
"Video thumbnail title is r/dontdeadopeninside",
"Suitable slopes in useful locations are rare.",
"You are confusing hydroelectric power generation with pumped storage. They use the same basic technology, but they are different concepts.",
"We've been building water towers for centuries...",
"A block stored at the top has P.E = mgh\n\nA block stored at half height has P.E = (1/2)mgh\n\nBoth blocks use the same amount of concrete, but one has less energy output. With one block, the entire mass is lifted the entire height, so you don't have this problem.\n\nAlso if it doesn't need to stack, then you could literally use ANY material: metal junk, construction rubble, dirt, etc. A lot of unnecessary problems are created by trying to stack.",
"I know you're joking, but I did the math once to see how high you'd have to lift the average home to store the energy it uses in a day, and the answer was like several hundred feet. I don't think bathtubs are gonna cut it :)",
"If I have to haul the water in why wouldn’t i use the design that uses concrete, gives me more flexibility, and doesnt require me to excavate two lakes to work.",
"Sounds like Nikola was ahead of the game\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/cars/2020/09/nikola-admits-prototype-was-rolling-downhill-in-promotional-video/%3famp=1",
">Pumped storage only works in specific hard-to-find geographies. We would have to dam up near half the Rockies and Sierra Nevada to get close to enough storage just for our country. Goodbye mountains, goodbye lumber.\n\nIf this was the case, wouldn't an energy vault require turning the Rockies into concrete block mountains to store the equivalent amount of energy? Either way you're storing energy via potential energy of masses, so these vaults would require an equal amount of mass of a pumped storage system, would it not?\n\nA quick google shows that over 8% of the NA power grid is currently generated by hydro. Do we currently have 8% of the Rockies converted to hydro dams? \n\nSomehow I feel like pumped storage isn't going to require destroying the Rocky mountains. At least no more than energy vaults will, because thermodynamics don't often make exceptions.",
"I hate videos that discuss a problem, but provide no real solution. Hydro power still has a massive concrete footprint and it can't be build everywhere (not many places to build it in the middle of nowhere Arizona or the Gobi desert) and it STILL doesn't provide a solution for where you can't build a hyrdo plant.",
"Thank you very much for this. Very helpful and quite illuminating!",
"Thats still a pathetic amount of power compared to the cost of construction and maintenance",
"Thank you! I will edit it imminently.",
">That's half the emissions of natural gas\n\nBut the tower does not *produce* any energy at all. If you want this number to mean something, you'll have to compare its carbon output with other storage systems, not to power production.\n\n>Somebody should remind him that both cranes and wind currently exist. \n\nIt's pretty routine to stop construction crane operations because of wind. And it's not at all unheard of for the construction cranes to fall in the wind, either.\n\nThe concept is like repurposing a portable carnival ride as mining equipment. Sure, you'll be able to move some ore. And then when you try to make it work day-to-day, you'll find out why no one's done it this way.",
"Eminent domain is imminent.",
"We're gonna need a bigger bathtub.",
"grivity bittery",
"But the mass you can stack is likely much larger than a single mass you could assemble without building a cost and space prohibitive crane to lift and lower the weight, thereby creating a lower storage capacity. Stacking helps manage the load on cranes, thus making them smaller/cheaper. \n\nMaybe if you did dozens of sites in a small area you could mimick the same level of energy storage using random junk in aggregate but then you’re probably building a lot more cranes (driving up expense and complexity) and using up a lot more land (vs. going vertical). \n\nWithout using something significantly more dense than concrete I would also think that if you did one specialized weight equivalent to the stacked tower it would be too large to lift the same height (unless it was some unwieldy width and not very tall) and you might end up with PE = 1/2 mgh of a concrete tower on average too just because the height of the single object itself is too big to lift beyond a certain point without the top of the object hitting the crane, which would be the same as the average for the stacked tower.",
"Weird how money keeps going to the really stupid ideas when there are better, more-established ones...",
"His content and way of speaking definitely falls into the category of \"Pseudo intellectual who pretends to be an intellectual\". Which unfortunately is like half of education youtube.",
"Maybe they could paint the weight with rubberised paint.",
"I made it 5 minutes in and his complaint is now that pumped storage is better. No shit, but pumped storage requires specific geography.",
"He still works there, he just used to work there too.",
"With the energy vault systems you dont need mountains to store it, thats the neat part. I can build it wherever its needed, unlike pumped storage.",
"That's a ton of cost and engineering required because not only do you have to make sure the building can hold that much weight that high up (and the associated safety since that has the potential to be catastrophic), but you also need all the pumping and generating equipment at each building. I would also be skeptical that even if you could make this that the building could hold enough water to generate any meaningful amount of water.",
"You can also just build an elevated tank storage system for water anywhere.\n\nI think the point is that if you're going to go through the massive hurdles to build the tower crane system, you're better off with water towers.....",
"I wonder if there's some way you could make micro hydro storage grids using water and towers.\n\nHmmm",
"Do you realize how difficult it would be to build a water tower high enough and large enough to accomplish the same thing? In case you werent aware, water is heavy as shit",
">Water is easier to deal with than blocks, simply because it doesn't get damaged. Those blocks would get covered in dust, every move wearing them down a little more. Eventually they wouldn't stack well.\n\nHorses were easier than cars, cars had so many moving parts that would get gummed up and eventually the machines would stop working as a horse would be just fine.\n\n\\^ Taking an anti-innovation stance is pretty absurd when the problems can be solved and known benefits are possible.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Water may evaporate some, but it doesn't get damaged.\n\nIn a desert, water scarcity is a real thing and minor evaporation becomes a huge problem. Also, the embankments and containers that hold water can get damaged over time.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>but you could use some power to purify seawater to fill these as well. Then they could sort of double as an emergency supply of drinking water\n\nThis is more ridiculous than the block idea. If purifying seawater was cost effective they would be doing that as is, not as a tack on to this project. Also, drinking your energy storage would impact the electricity supply.",
"And concrete isn't?",
"Yeah, but the blocks support themselves. I dont need to build a massive structure just to store them up high, you just stack them.",
"How do you think the structure that stacks them and the blocks themselves come into existence exactly?",
"Also the idea of building underground storage completely goes against what makes pumped storage work: you dont have to build much because the geography is already there. That make it cost effective enough to work despite the energy losses.",
"because easier to plop 6 cranes than build a hoover dam.",
"Im really not sure what you are getting at, are you suggesting its impossible to stack concrete or something?",
"Yes, and they are specifically designed to do so. We can't just go and retrofit them within office buildings",
"Are you seriously this dense?",
"I dont think you realize how expensive it would be to build a water tower big enough to store even a modest amount of energy....",
"The downsides of pump storage dont matter because this whole idea is a shitfest and wouldnt work at all in the first place.",
"I think you are dense one if your idea is to build a water tower that can hold the equivalent of a entire concrete tower worth of weight and expect it to compete in costs lol",
"The problem is that they don't actually explain why beyond saying \"wind\" and declaring it insurmountable. Yes, wind is a problem that must be solved for this to work but I haven't seen anything to suggest that it's an unsolvable problem. If it is, then that's what the video should be about.",
">I haven't seen anything to suggest that it's an unsolvable problem\n\nAre you fucking joking lol",
"Please, enlighten me. We have tower cranes that operate in the wind now, why is this problem unsolvable?",
"A really dumb but interesting idea I saw was utilities paying to take some of your electric car charge back. Sounds like a good idea on the surface until you realize you would be pretty pissed if your car was only half charge after being plugged in all night, and the utility companies could never pay you enough to also cover the wear and tare on the batteries. Good idea for commercial vehicles like busses with more scheduled use and economy of scale though.",
"Having to special build a crane onsite is gonna be even more expensive lmao",
"I dont think people are realizing how costs go exponentially up as a weight increases lol",
"Uhh have you seen the uncovered aquifer that runs most of the length of the state? A little evaporation never bugged California",
"I’m surprised thunderf00t made a video NOT about Anita Sarkeesian.",
"Fine, trench some pits. Use abandoned mines for undergeound pumped storage. Create H2 using hydrolysis. Way better solutions than whatever this is...",
"This is too funny. \n\nI dont even know why i cared, if people, corporations or even governments fall for these solar roadways level scams its their own fault honestly.\n\nCant wait to see these things in the future.\n\nI really hope they get some funding, if we learned anything from Solar freaking Roadway the real fun comes when they have to leave their computer animation phase and get faced with actual physics.\n\nRemindMe! 5 years",
"So, just to be clear, you have no explanation for why wind would be an unsolvable problem, especially considering we already operate cranes in the wind?",
"Edit: I realize dirt/wear would make it inefficient. But I would also figure if we are to the point where photovoltaic paint is being used en-masse, we will probably be painting just about everything with it. Roads, buildings, sidewalks, cars, etc\n\n—\n\nI still don’t get why people think the concept of solar roadways is dumb. Sure if you think it’s going to be normal glass solar panels….\n\nBut no real solution would do that. It would probably be an e-ink type surface that was painted on. That’s probably going to be the direction of all solar and display technology (billboards and TVs) in the next couple of decades.",
"If you have incredibly specific geography required for it, then sure!",
"And California naturally has huge concrete blocks lying around? You are going to have to bring in and maintain whatever you are using for weight.",
"You make good points, but the single block idea is still infinitely better and more plausible of an idea than the stacked tower.\n\nDozens of smaller \"cranes\" is actually a great idea. In fact they don't need to be cranes at all. There's no need for the turntable or jibs to move the blocks into position. A simpler design would reduce cost of maintenance, eliminate the problems of load cycling, stacking error, and wind problems.\n\nYou're also right, a single block wouldn't be able to go up as high as the tower, but there's nothing wrong with that actually. Just use dirt and lift it 10 meters. Dirt is cheap and environmentally friendly unlike concrete, so there's no need to try and minimize it. The lower height increases safety, and allows you to build them in cities to store locally generated solar energy.\n\nAlso I was wrong about the potential energy of the tower... the bricks at half height actually have 0 P.E because of the way they stack. As they unstack the central tower, the height of the tower gets lower. At the same time, they are stacking an outer ring - the top of which gets higher. So as you approach the halfway point, the height differential is 0 - significantly less useful than I initially thought.\n\nJust add up all the problems of the stacking tower, and you'll see why it will never work. It's just bad in so many ways",
"We dont operate cranes in strong winds, which is where these things would be needed. Next to wind turbines. Thats the point.",
"Why would they be needed right next to wind turbines?",
"Fun but not at all useful. The heaviest, longest train to ever exist is only a fraction of the mass of what is used in your average pumped hydro station",
"Interesting, good points, thanks! \n\nI like the idea of using dirt and dozens of simple locations, I think you’re right that would be much simpler and more efficient. Also might avoid the NIMBY problem a tower poses, we already have enough issues with wind towers as is.",
"I love that idea because it's the sort of idea where, with some refinement, it could be an elegant yet powerful solution.",
"No, not really. I moved on",
"Well considering most water towers already hold more useable mass than their prototype concrete tower can... Like you'd need to lift 1000 tons of concrete 100m to get the same power storage that the Erwin water tower would give you if it had a 90% efficient hydroelectric turbine.\n\nSo, whatever you need to tell yourself I guess?",
"Is... is this a joke? Because I get the feeling im being trolled here.\n\nEither that or the education system has failed all around.\n\nThis feels suspicious tho. Not like geniune confusion or lack of understanding. So i will assume its the former and will stop feeding into it.",
"So, once again, you have no response and instead pretend like the answer is self evident. \n\nBut here, I can answer this one. There is no requirement for gravity storage to be next to wind turbines.",
"That's why you have set points in that system. Tomorrow I will go to work at 08:00 and need 50% charge minimum. Charge or use anything as long as it's back up at 08:00.\nBut when I arrive home at 18:30 with 65% charge that means the car can power the lights and TV etc I use until I go to bed at 23:00 reducing the need of power plants running after dark a bit and then charging the car again while running power plants still at reduced load.",
">The concept is excellent. It’s so great, humanity is already doing it in a much more efficient manner.\n\nA less efficient, impractical, overall worse version of something we already do isn't an excellent concept. Sure it's not solar freaking roadways dumb but it's still really dumb.",
"You don't need to use potable water. In the Netherlands engineers have looked into building a dammed part in the sea. You don't pump on but pump out and let it refill to get power. The dam can hold windmills.",
"You can build this block system in an enclosure if dust is an issue. \n\nPotable water stored too long doesn't stay well, you need chemicals to prevent biological growth.",
"There is almost no way that the concrete solution is 90% efficient. Possibly, possibly, maybe one component of what they are doing is 90% efficient. But no chance the whole thing is 90% efficient. Hydroelectric gravity to electric conversion systems approach that level of efficiency and they are amongst some of the most efficient systems we have because the turbines are simpler and self cooling, and regulating them is trivial. If you add in the energy losses to store the water, they are probably about 75% efficient round trip. \n\nNow, this system is going to have a lot of bearing loads, so friction is off the chart, in addition to the issues of waste during conversion. 70% round trip would be aspirational for them, and I would honestly be impressed if they could get to 60% efficiency. Now, this also isn't bad, because in a lot of ways storage is free since we are using surplus energy for storage which would be wasted otherwise. But if you are going to compare systems then you have to compare apples to apples, and you can't say \"they are 75% efficient round trip and we are 85% efficient one way\".\n\nOf course I haven't seen their designs, so I would be hard pressed to say the 90% figure is a marketing lie, but the 90% figure is a pure marketing lie.",
"Cool.\n\nNow what if i live on the plains just like 90% of the human race? Oops, guess no energy storage for me.",
"Because the cables are nearly directly connected to the electric engine/ generator where hydro has the pump/turbine that has losses.\nI like how educational this thread is.",
"Horses are actually not easier to deal with than cars. Horses are living and have all the complexity associated with that. Cars are fairly simple and easy to deal with. You can leave a car unattended in a small garage for over a year with little to no issues: horses, not so much.\n\n\nWater scarcity is usually more about safe drinking water than actual water. Deserts are a thing and having a pump setup in the middle of the desert might be harder, but we can ship water about as easily as concrete blocks. Small amounts of evaporation would add up, but we can mitigate/eliminate that if we wanted to. And container damage is basically zero when the container itself just sits around not moving. How many centuries will a well/mineshaft hold water?\n\n\nWe do already purify seawater via reverse osmosis. It is generally cheaper to pump in fresh water, but it is in use currently. Using these as a temporary store for clean water could be a second use (drinking the water would remove the storage ability, but depending on the situation if may be preferable). \n\n\nIdeally pumped storage would use topography to limit building costs, but there is nothing technically stopping us from using deep wells instead. There are probably better energy storage options in a flat desert plain, but a tower of blocks is not it (don't forget the massive base structure needed to support the tower as well).",
"Dynamos and electrical enegines are close to 99% efficient. Hydrostorage is only 80% efficient. Lithium batteries, which are toxic and hard to produce at scale, are also 99% efficient. But hey, concrete (or any other dense material that more or less holds together) is far easier to find. Buckets full of rocks or dirt is a lot less environmentally damaging and scalable than lithium batteries. Lead batteries are 90% efficient.\n\nMaybe people on here should read into what they are pretending to know anything about, instead of blindly going with the hivemind.",
"Stacking blocks of rock into the air is even cheaper than building a massive hole.",
"This! Cover parking lots... cool cars and power.",
"Aight, Im just gonna debunk your first statement right now.\n\nTheir prototype can hold 35 mwh of electricity. Keep that in mind.\n\nA kg of water lifted 1 meter has 0.002725 watts of potentital electricity.\n\nThe erwin water tower holds 1892705.892 kg of water at a height of 70 meters.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n(1892705.892 \\* 70 \\* .002725) / 1000000 = 0.36103 MWH.... not even fucking close lmao\n\nFeel free to check my math, but until you can shut up and keep to yourself lmao\n\nThe source for my numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSgd-QhLHRI",
"I think you may have responded to the wrong comment, just an fyi. I didnt mention water at all",
"Good point of the growth. You can treat water, but I am unsure if that would be better or worse than cycling it.\n\nThe issue is that the blocks will make their own dust. Even if you seal them completely, the grinding of being set down and picked up would make grit and chips. You could have a filtering system, but then you have: the surrounding structure, the blocks, and the base to support everything. Burying the towers would help since you need less of a crane and more of a hoist. It would also get rid of the need for a surrounding structure. It would help with the wind and may be able to be resting on bedrock. Your tower could also be solid in the center and a collapse wouldn't harm your lifting equipment.",
"Water towers would provide pitiful amounts of electricity compared to either solution lol",
"Concrete is not the best material to be moving around all the time. It’s designed to be placed and stationary. Jersey barriers that are frequently moved break down quickly. Bit sure how long a blocks that are in constant motion would last. Would probably need metal edges for stacking.",
"Also, the statement that the carbon efficient blocks \"look like\" they will fall apart more quickly isn't objective in any way. Even if the arguments are correct nothing he says actually backs up the assumptions made. They very well may be valid criticisms, but saying they are true and proving they are true are very different things.",
">goes against what makes pumped storage work\n\nWhat are you pumping if not water?",
"I think its a lot more complex than the vid maker thinks. \n\nThey are not wrong about problems, but they are not insurmountable problems. \n\nAn I promise, \"dig a giant hole to put it in\" is dumber than any of the other ideas presented. Thats very expensive.",
"I could not stop thinking about the energy lost for lifting, moving and positioning blocks. There’s no way that’s even reasonably efficient. Operating cranes to move free standing blocks of just a terrible idea. Maybe they had weights on fixed rod like an abacus, that when released pushed a rotating flywheel.",
"Like the other people who have come before him (he even mentions that thunderf00t guy, **shudders**), this is just some random dude finding dumb or wild ideas and then condescendingly dismissing it using extremely basic and simplified math, based on nothing. He has no knowledge, no new input. It's the laziest form of content out there.\n\nInstead he could make an actual good video where he talks to engineers and physicists maybe, goes into detail about the pros and cons, and just calmly talks the whole idea through. But that would require more than an afternoons work and you'd have to drop the snarky attitude and actually try.\n\nThis is just a video for people to laugh at dumb ideas and circlejerk over how smart they are and how dumb this thing is. Maybe it is dumb, who the fuck knows. But that's besides the point.",
"> Also having lanes disappear during a power outage is not worth any benefit of lane shifting\n\nYou could use some kind of e-ink with bigger chromatophores. It only needs power to change, but it stays visible once configured, even if the power goes out.",
"I really didn’t say anything about if the water had to be potable or not, so i have literally no idea how the above comment connects to me lol",
"Edit sorry wrong comment",
"Some said he had allot of potential",
"Ah so you dont have a meaningful comment lol",
"Initial dev cost:\n\n* Cost for a 1.5 ton concrete block in CA would [be about $125](https://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete-prices.html)\n* Cost for cranes ?\n* Cost for 350 gallons of water (\\~1.5 tons) would be about $10 ([$0.03 /gallon](https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-water-cost-in-California))\n* Cost for building embankments ?\n\nOngoing maintenance costs:\n\n* Concrete blocks degrade how quickly? 50 years for high wear and tear\n* Crane maintenance?\n* Energy savings from efficiency of block storage?\n* Water evaporates [about 2 inches per day](http://cloud2.snappages.com/86820d31baf91360b2ec3090e4b6dd03e0d0285b/Conserving%20Water%20in%20California_FSI.pdf).\n* Turbine maintenance?\n* Energy costs from efficiency of water storage?\n\nIt seems pretty similar, but water will have a higher ongoing cost needing constant refilling while the blocks look to be once in 50 years cost.\n\nI've grown bored of this discussion and have more important things to do, but if anyone wants, you can use the above citations to get a reasonable cost estimate comparison between the two methods, and add more details with the question mark bullet points.",
"It's an analogy, I'm not going to parse in such detail on the feasibility of horses vs cars on a throw away point.\n\nI'm bored with this conversation, have a good week.",
">A little evaporation never bugged California\n\nLol, [https://www.drought.gov/states/california](https://www.drought.gov/states/california)",
"I wouldnt say it's not useful. There's a railway used to haul ore out of the mountains and down to the coast that is a net producer of electrical power. The full cars coming down the mountain provide a lot more than enough power to return the empty cars back up. \n\nRail-pumped storage would be feasible in seismically-unstable regions where a massive dam would pose a risk to communities below. Or in drier regions lacking sufficient flow to maintain the massive reservoirs needed. \n\nDevelopments and improvements in rail storage would bleed over into rail transport, and vice versa.\n\nSome form of this technology is practically inevitable. Bulk daytime transport across the continental divides will be uphill when power is cheap; nighttime transport will be downhill when it is expensive, returning power to the grid.",
"To break it down It's basically down to cost, usefully was, and environmental sustainability. Right now roads are relatively cheap, and the most recycled material on the world. Replacing them with expensive (like 50 times the cost easily) solar panels that need to be overbuilt to survive truck traffic is a horrible idea. The US at least is relatively not hurting for space much. If you put regular solar panels right next to the roads, and had regular roadways it would be: cheaper, easier, more effective, and more efficient. There is not a single benefit to try to merge the two technologies at this time at least. Maybe some breakthrough later will make it possible but more than likely not.",
"I think the whole point was not to suggest that any of these alternatives were feasible, it was to demonstrate that by the time you solve all the issues with the ridiculous crane-and-block design, you basically end up with [pumped storage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66YRCjkxIcg) which is a mechanism we've already been using for decades.",
"It depends on the type of concrete - there are a lot of different kinds. We make storm barriers out of concrete- we use them for underwater construction and rocket launch pads.\n\nConcrete is basically the cheapest, strongest thing humans can make.",
"But, it isn't 90% efficient.\n\nIt's 60% efficient.",
"The engineers building it claim it’s 90%",
"The blocks are just silly. Winch cables dont last very long. \n\nRail storage is feasible: haul those blocks up and down a mountain on an electric train. They rise and fall thousands of feet instead of a couple hundred.",
"agreed. There are far more efficient potential energy storage mechanisms.",
"thanks.",
"okay.",
"Or, now hear me out, you could paint or melt the lines into the road and not make them out of fragile electronics. E-ink isn't as bright as the LED lighting they were proposing as far as I know.",
"Doubling the number of blocks or making them bigger wouldn’t change the height of the structure. You would need to change the geometry of the structure itself. All larger blocks give you is a larger quantities of discrete energy units of energy stored. \n\nEncasing them in lead would be incredibly expensive, have negative environmental implications, and would effect the mechanical structure and therefore strength of the blocks. \n\nI’m the engineers who designed this have considered everything you think should be changed.",
"Oh, you must have left out the word \"potable\" in your previous comment.\n\n> just an fyi. I didnt mention water at all",
"Then OP video should have addressed the lifespan of winch cables, but that point was never made. All the video did was whine and cry without making very good points.",
"oh, make no mistake; reconfigurable roadways, in the few places they make sense, are best implemented with concrete barriers and machine to move the barriers. \n\nBut there's no reason you can't embed retroreflector beads in e-ink. It's exactly as bright as highway paint",
"Self powering train cars is different from using trains as a grid battery in terms of scale. Yeah, if you have a heavy load high up, you can charge your batteries while rolling down, and then use the batteries to get the empty train back up to the top. But how many joules is that battery, and how much power can you get out of it? Nowhere near enough to be generally useful. High voltage transmission lines have very low losses. It would be far more reasonable to ship the electricity to some suitable spot for a hydro gravity battery, than to try to put a battery wherever people are.",
"This video is upvoted because it’s exactly what every Reddit comment section is whenever there’s a novel idea that they aren’t familiar with. It’s just teenagers and people with no relevant knowledge playing engineer and pretending they know more than the engineers working on the project. \n\nThe guy in the video pretty blatantly has no idea what they’re talking about.",
"I agree with a good amount of the things he says but all in all he makes low quality videos. If you are trying to criticize an idea, at least put in some time doing serious research and then showing us how to use that research to reach a conclusion. Show sources. Anyone can make a 4 minute talking about their knee jerk reactions. Even if those reactions turn out to have some truth to them, I can't make a judgment from one dude's snarky opinions.",
"Almost everything in this video is either patantly false or just the narrator not understanding what they’re saying. This is upvoted because this site loves pretending they know more than the engineers designing these things.",
"No batteries. Overhead cables or a third rail directly tie the locomotive to the power grid. \n\nRailyards can be installed pretty much anywhere; hydro can only be feasible where at least one of the reservoirs is on an existing river. When we run out of suitable hydro locations (we pretty much have), we will still have plenty of suitable locations for rail.",
"I don’t mean to be too rude here but for somebody acting so smug, he comes off like a complete idiot.",
"The train car *is* the battery.",
"I don't know why but solely based on the thumbnail I thought this would be about a tunnel going through the earth and you'd drop a magnet and it would induce current on the sides of the tunnel on its way down and generate electricity. Then it would melt at the core of the earth and you'd drop in a new magnet. \"Free\" potential energy.",
"no doubt be they still had to cut him sluice",
"They do however still watch live sporting events. And observe a rather similar working day routine",
"Exactly. So we look at all the rolling stock that crosses the continental divide in a given day, and we move the railyards to one yard at the divide, and two yards on either side. Excess solar and wind drives the cars uphill during the day, gravity returns that power as the cars descend overnight. When we run out of transport cars, we move cars full of rocks.",
"That's when my BS alarm started going off.\n\nThen I took a look into the rest of his channel and wow, there are some flabbergastingly stupid takes in there.",
"You build a form, fill with concrete or whatever, and that's about it. Much better than assembling a ton of different smaller hoist and pulley systems.\n\nIt's about 500 smaller cables vs 50 larger cables.",
"You're explaining this to me like I don't understand how it works. I do. I am saying that it is no where near relevant because of the scale of generation relative to the potential energy in the train cars.\n\nGo ahead and calculate how much energy will be stored by this system, and what kind of power can be pulled from it and for how long, and then compare that with the needs of the grid. Hint: the formula is U = mgh",
"Hey I'm just throwing out questions. From the consensus people seem to thing this should not be built at all. Encase the lead in concrete. My question is, is it better to have a shorter structure. Raise a 1000 blocks an inch. What's the difference? Doubling the number of block would definitely double the amount of energy storage, half the hight, you get the same energy storage. How is changing the height and width not changing the geometry",
"> actually making both of them worse\n\nPah naysayers Next you’ll be telling me my idea of square wheels on cars is a bad one despite the clear benefit is has in preventing vehicles running away when parked on inclines",
"I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Pumped storage uses hydroelectric power generation as a means of converting the potential energy of the water into electric power. The two are not mutually exclusive.",
"Address the limited availability of feasible hydro storage sites, compared to the broad availability of feasible rail sites.\n\nAddress the benefits of synergistic development of both transportation and energy infrastructure.",
"I think thats it haha",
"Ahh… Mitch I miss you bro",
"This please is a don't dumb fall idea for it.",
"Also, wouldn't heating up the panels cause issues with the electronics in them?\n\nThat's another layer of dumb complexity added.",
"None of those points were his main point that this thing can barely store the energy of two wind turbines daily output.\n\nThat seems.. tiny, to say the least.\n\nAnd what, exactly, is better about this idea than about pumped-storage hydroelectricity, which already exists?\n\nThe issue here doesn't seem to be the points you mention, the issue seems to be a very simple issue of scaling.",
"> We would have to dam up near half the Rockies and Sierra Nevada to get close to enough storage just for our country. \n\nIsn't that exact same problem also an issue for this thing? Like, how gigantic would this thing have to be to store enough energy for the country? Or how many thousands of these things would you need instead?",
"An enclosure increases the surface area and the wind loading means it can't be built cheaply.",
"Pumped hydro requires more concrete and can only be used in places with rivers with large elevation changes. It’s great, but there are reasons we don’t have dams everywhere.\n\nAs far as the capacity goes, I think you are misunderstanding what utility scale batteries are for. They aren’t to completely offset the grid, they are to fill in the gaps when energy sources aren’t producing as much out the grid needs to quickly ramp up production. The storage capacity he mentions isn’t huge but it’s plenty for a total of about 15-30k people. And if you need more storage you just build another one- duh. Scaling is the easiest part of this- you just need more concrete blocks or heavier blocks or more cranes. \n\nAgain, this isn’t better than hydro except that this can be deployed places hydro can’t. Hydro is very very limited. Plus hydro has SEVERE ecological drawbacks.",
"Well, that's the best case. Which would mean 10 percent loss in hoisting the block and another 10 percent loss in generating (dropping). \n\nThat would 80 percent. That doesn't account for friction, energy used in movement etc. Getting close to 60 aren't we.",
"Do sealed bearings not scale?",
"American here. We do actually know that.",
"You don’t get to just throw up whatever numbers you want dude. The people engineering this device say that it’s 90% efficient in storing and supplying energy. That is not difficult to believe.\n\nI would love to see field testing though",
"No, [pumped storage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity) does not use [hydroelectric power generation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity). They both use water turbines, that is true, but they are separate concepts.\n\nYour previous comment argues that a pumped storage needs to be in a place with an abundant natural water source - that is simply not true.\n\nHydroelectric power generation is a primary power generation source. You stop up a flow of water that is naturally occurring to basically get \"free\" energy from the environment. Pumped storage is not a primary power source. It works off other power sources (wind, solar, even fossil fuel sources) to store up energy when they have an overcapacity, allowing it to be supplied back to the system when needed, there is no \"generation\", there is only storage. Water goes up, water goes down, it is essentially a closed system. Indeed, the logistics of filling the system will be simplified if you have an abundant source of water nearby, but it is not an absolute necessity. Once the system is filled (could be done with a remote pipeline), there is no requirement for a reliable source of water outside of some minor top-ups due to evaporation or leakage.",
"You said it better than I. \n\nALL OF HIS VIDEOS ARE LIKE THIS. It's exhausting.",
"The scale is in numbers - To take your 3 storey building and 55 gallon drum. If every building in a city over 3 stories held a single 55 gallon drum for instance (there are 42,000 buildings over 18m in london) that's 42K AA batteries. \n\nThis IS just a thought experiment, but we are going to need radical solutions to store excess capacity.",
"This please is a don't dumb fall idea for it",
"I already did that. Please go read my posts for the answer.\n\nWhat you're suggesting is like saying we need to mix enough concrete to pour a new Hoover dam, and maybe it is a good idea to have some extra people out there mixing batches in 5 gallon buckets to speed along the process.\n\nYou are completely uninformed on the scale of the problem. I have no real interest in continuing this conversation since it's clear you believe you are well informed, so I don't think anything I can say will get through to you.\n\nCheers.",
"Doesn’t have to be concrete, though. Any large mass, encapsulated or stabilized for durability, would do I should imagine",
"people who complain that \"pumped storage requires special geography while this tower does not\" are missing the point: Only efficient pumped storage requires special geography. Pumped storage that is more efficient than this tower idea is another thing entirely. Since water is about 2.5 times lighter than concrete, a simple design of water tower on top of water tower will need to be only 2.5 larger than this tower to match it's capacity (or rounding up due to 90% efficiency of pumped storage- 3 times larger).",
"Yeah, you're basically advocating we use elephants to pull our plows, instead of horses, mules, oxen, or even sled dogs. Sure, an elephant can pull a lot more than a dog. Nobody is disputing that. But we are fresh out of elephants, and we've got all these dogs around...\n\nFurther, I don't know how you're going to load up three million board-feet of lumber on a hydropower dam, but I'm quite certain you're not going to be able to drive that concrete dam over the Rockies to deliver that lumber. Rail storage isn't just an energy technology. It's a transportation technology. \n\nAdvances in rail storage will invite expanded electrification of the transport network. Electric trains provide a considerable opportunity for load shaping, reducing the need for grid storage. It's far more efficient to *use* clean power when it can be generated rather than trying to store it for later use. \n\nWith widespread electric rail infrastructure in place, the grid is more resilient. In an emergency or natural disaster, every diesel electric locomotive in the country becomes a 3MW generator providing grid power.",
"Not trying to discount what you're saying, but i don't recall saying anything about a natural body of water being necessary for pumped storage. All I said is that a large amount of water is necessary for it to be practical. Perhaps my wording was confusing when I said \"source\". In my head, \"source\" was referring to the reservoir of water used for energy storage.",
"No, I'm not.",
"Yep, and I’m just answering questions. I wouldn’t take the consensus of a Reddit thread to mean anything at all. I’m not saying this is a good concept or engineers are infallible, but I trust the people that designed this over the opinion of a site who’s demographic is largely in high school. \n\n>My question is, is it better to have a shorter structure. Raise a 1000 blocks an inch.\n\nThe shorter the structure, the more time it will take to load and unload a given amount of power. You’re also decreasing the available power per block and requiring a lot more concrete. \n\n>\tHow is changing the height and width not changing the geometry\n\nBecause you need to increase the total amount of blocks to get the same amount of energy stored. Which is why it’s neccessary to change the geometry with it to get the same amount of stored energy. You hadn’t specified you were changing the height and width before, I figured it was something to point out.",
"Shoulda pissed it back in",
"A purpose built machine could of course be built, but it would cost like 10x more for the crane bits, which are clearly the most expensive portion of the design.",
"Well, you can promise a lot of things, but once a hole is dug, it's dug. it needs little when it comes to maintenance. This thing here is gonna require servicing all the time. It's also a lot more error-prone.\n\n>And if you'd rather we just damn up all the valleys then I think you've lost sight of why we're trying to use clean energy in the first place\n\nSaving the planet from overheating? Yes, indeed. if a solution to saving the planet includes turning some land into lakes we'd rather cook the planet. That's a pretty strange take you got there, not that I was advocating for using this solution. People seem to act as if I'm suggesting it is the best when I'm merely making the point that it is better than the Jenga tower.",
"okay, like, why do people behave as if I'm suggesting pumped hydro is the literal god solution that will solve all of our problems? do you guys have issues with reading? All I'm doing is pointing out how it is, even though it has a lot of shortcomings like the ones you pointed out, it's still a lot better than the jenga tower.",
"I suppose maintaining the whole system is free, I suppose all the engineering problems are just non-existant.\n\nThat's a pretty cool magical power you got there, can I use that to enhance other unrealistic solutions?",
"That's exactly what I said.",
"Some.\n\nMore in the past decade as a result of international social media.",
"Sure.\n\nBut my numbers come from existing, already used examples using electric generator/traction motors.\n\nSo I can keep my skepticism of these (literal) startups claiming something different.",
"Comparing physical battery storage to motor efficiency is not wise.",
"you put the storage where the production is to avoid losses.",
"No its not. I'm saying if they had to do that it just flat out could never, ever work because it would cost far more money.\n\nNot that this is likely to work, but this approach would still cost ten times less than something that lifts the entire weight at once.",
"In a perfect world yes, but pumped storage already exists long distances from the power plants it supports due to geographical restrictions.",
"booooo that's not entertaining 😡",
"The pumpef storage I've seen are hydro powerplants by themselves.",
"I don't know how viable this is overall, but the advantage gravity storage has over pumped storage is that it can theoretically deployed anywhere, whereas pumped storage requires specific geography for it to work. That's the problem it's trying to solve and the video above just declares that wind is an unsolvable problem and therefore it's dumb.",
"Well, imagine no one had though of a water based version before, and thought of this first. I don't know if people would have thought of pumping water immediately, or if it would have taken another round of thinking before it go there. So, it may still be a good idea, just too late to be relevant.",
"It strikes me as a negative for society for people to get entertainment out of calling other peoples dreams stupid.\n\nI think I'd rather them be doing \"social experiments\" on the streets.",
"omg.\n\nIn a potential energy system (aka physical battery storage), what generates electricity?\n\nCould it be a generator? Specifically a motor generator, or a traction motor? Or do you think some magical wand is attached to the concrete block/cable/pulley mechanism?",
"No of course it turns it into rotational energy to make AC power. But these are not your standard motors and are designed to be incredibly efficiency in ways industrial motors cannot be. It likely uses a flywheel which can easily be 90% efficient.",
"No offense, but how are you any different?",
"Concrete is not cheese.",
"lol thanks for pointing that out! I well did that",
"Yes, they're hydro power plants, but they're pumping into their reservoir rather than having it naturally filled by a river or other natural source.",
"Hey dude, this idea sucks and you can't handle that for some reason.",
"It’s because I’m an electrical engineer and actually know what I’m talking about.",
"What did I say that wasn’t true?",
"I didn't say you said something false, I asked how anyone was supposed to know you know what you're talking about. Even if you do it's not evident.",
"To you it’s a thought experiment, but don’t confuse what you’re doing with engineering.",
"I'm completely dumbfounded as to how pumped hydro is some unknown technology to people. Every time gravity batteries are discussed on Reddit, people talk about it as if it is some revelation.\n\nI guess it might just be because I'm Norwegian, where hydro power is everywhere, but it's just weird.\n\nAnyways, while the Energy Vault is a needlessly complicated concept, gravity batteries are a very good alternative where pumped storage hydro is not viable (Which is almost everywhere). PSH needs very specific terrain features, has a lot of maintenance involved, and the water itself is a problem in many ways.\n\nPSH needs a high altitude reservoir and a low altitude reservoir close to the power plant. In the case of wind and solar, that's rarely the case. Furthermore, PSH is very environmentally invasive, substantially impacting its surroundings.\n\nThen there's the water. First of all, water in the required quantity is rarely available. Secondly, water has this tendency of evaporating. If PSH was the solution here, it would already be implemented because it is already implemented where feasible. Consequently, suggesting PSH is just silly in most instances.\n\nMeanwhile, a concrete-weighted (Or other relevant material) gravity battery is deployable pretty much everywhere, and its storage is extremely passive. You could literally just walk away for several millennia, and when you come back, that energy is still sitting there. The water will long ago have disappeared. In terms of maintenance, there's a lot required for PSH, easily comparable to or exceeding that of other gravity batteries.\n\nIn short, using cranes is probably not a good implementation of gravity batteries, but gravity batteries themselves are a good alternative where PSH is not viable (Which is almost everywhere).",
"Because I’m referring to the comments above which support what I said with easily verifiable information and pointing to inherent flaws in logic of the video.",
"Some support what you said and others disagree. Same case with the video. I'll reserve judgement, just wanted you to know insisting you're right while insulting anyone who disagrees isn't convincing.",
"What in the first comment in this thread do you disagree with? If even half of those points are true, my comment is supported.",
"Also if he wasnt so busy jacking off to himself maybe he would compare the densities of water and concrete to see if there actually is an advantage. Turns out you need much more height to store the same amount of energy with water as you would with concrete\n\nDensity of water~1000kg/m^3\nDensity of concrete~ 2400kg/m^3\n\nNot to mention Im sure there are special blends of concrete that weight more. \n\nAnd yeah the putting it underground thing is totally bonkers",
"Imo a great opportunity for energy storage is producing hydrogen. Doing so you can use it as a fuel in power turbines already ised in power plants and its a good drop in replacement for fossil fuels",
"Pumped storage hydro is implemented almost everywhere it is feasible already, which is a very limited range. Transporting water to a location is not an effective solution because water is actually a very scarce resource where it doesn't already exist in abundance, transporting it is insanely impractical, and it has this nasty habit of leaking and evaporating.\n\nPSH is just not a viable option in 99% of cases, whereas gravity batteries using other materials is almost universally viable.",
"I don't disagree or agree with any of it, I am ignorant of the subject matter and I am not convinced you or the others aren't also.\n\nSuggesting having many points is bound to mean some are correct isn't a logical argument, either... honestly I'm barely interested in the subject matter and less so in this conversation so sorry to bug you.",
"I have a degree in mechanical engineering and am a practicing engineer. Again, if you have any questions, I’d be happy to answer.",
"I don't think that's sufficient to accept your word on the feasibility of this system, but I appreciate that you are capable of looking into it further.",
"Okay.\n\nI guess we're saying slightly different things.\n\nI was saying they went this route because they could buy cheap existing hardware, you're saying they didn't design something specific because it would cost too much.\n\nAgreed!",
"> it turns it into rotational energy \n\nWhat **it** ?\n\nname that device which rotates and generates energy.",
"Dude I just went over that yes it uses a motor but a motor designed to generate electricity is designed massively different than a motor designed to generate torque. \n\nYou have no idea what you are talking about",
"As soon as he referenced a thunderfoot video as \"proof\" of something, I knew this was total bullshit.",
"Then ask me any questions you have and allow me to show you. Or are you genuinely here just to tell people they can’t point to flaws in the video because they aren’t a verified professional on an anonymous forum?\n\nAnd the points above don’t require any level of knowledge or verification of qualifications. It points to inherent flaws in logic of the video and is supported by easily verifiable information. You should be able to understand and verify it yourself pretty easily.",
"Or a flywheel, they already use it for power conditioning in areas where power plants have unstable outputs. Of course there will be losses due to friction, meaning that it needs constant input. However, once up to speed it should be fairly simple to maintain momentum.",
"I agree that the video is incorrect in its arguments. I just don't accept that you are not also guilty of making illogical arguments and conclusions. The video's bad arguments mean we cannot accept its conclusions, not that the opposite conclusion must therefore be true.\n\nI don't trust that you are an expert in this technology or that you \"know more than the engineers designing these things\" and would prefer to allow said engineers to design, test, prove, and compare technologies without the ego fest in Reddit comments. I was tired of typing about this like 10 minutes ago but I appreciate your politeness. I will continue to be disappointed by sensationalist pieces like this and with Reddit comment sections and await the professional evaluation of emerging technologies.",
"but I still want to see it.",
"I only made one claim here and it’s directly supported by this thread. I wasn’t even claiming to be an expert. You don’t need to be an expert to point out inherent flaws in logic supported by easily verifiable or widely know information, as I’ve already said. \n\n>\tI don't trust that you are an expert in this technology or that you \"know more than the engineers designing these things\"\n\nWhen did I even imply I was any of these things in my original comment? I only a claim of my background after you asked. \n\n>\tand would prefer to allow said engineers to design, test, prove, and compare technologies without the ego fest in Reddit comments. \n\nYou realize I’m defending the engineers and am saying the guy criticizing them with blatant flaws in his argument is wrong? That’s my entire point, what are you arguing about it you agree? Not to mention, the argument I’m supporting isn’t technical and doesn’t require an expert validation to understand for the reasons I’ve above and my comments before this.",
"I read you have an \"electric engineering degree\" ... and I wouldn't doubt that maybe it's possible you do - there are plenty of degree's issued which are \"sub-par\".\n\nThis comment rather proves it to me.\n\nPerhaps you don't realize that a motor and a generator are the same thing? Yes, one could build each to increase efficiency; but they have the same exact structure.\n\nHere's a nice page to get some schooling: \n\nhttps://www.dtrs.ca/b/electric-motors-and-generators-how-do-they-work\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH3pKaZDON0",
"You are a moron. I have agreed multiple time that motors and generators are the same thing. But apparently you think there is only one type of “motor” in the world.\n\nYou may have read an article or two about motors but from the comments here you clearly have a deficiency in reading comprehension.",
"No, I'm saying literally anything they designed to lift a thousand+ tons would cost too much.\n\nThousand tons cranes are light years more expensive than ten ton cranes.",
"Roger.",
"He's exactly like all the reddit armchair engineers that shit all over any alternative energy source.\n\nThat's why I *know* he's reading all the comments here",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rkike2/the_energy_vault_is_a_dumb_idea_heres_why/hpcq90s?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3\n\nAs I said before, I look forward to the best technologies being deployed for energy storage since we need that desperately to augment renewables.\n\nMy issue was with your comment which requires people take your word over others' while disparaging people. The points made above already addressed the video.\n\nI didn't ask for your credentials, appeal to authority isn't particularly useful. For example I have similar credentials but do not accept that a poor argument against this technology means the technology is sound or a good option. It may be, but it is not helpful to disparage people. You are a redditor on this site and surely upvote nonsense with the rest of us.\n\nI don't want you to think I'm ignoring you, but I am not interested in replying any more or in your future responses.",
"The mods won't do anything about them. \n\nGo to almost any video on the new tab and half the posts have threads filled with these youtube comment bots.\n\nAll the mods have to do is put account age restrictions on the sub",
"You \"sign\" your comments? lol",
"Are you saying that self driving cars will never work? or do you just mean that it currently isn't perfect? what's your point?\n\nI doubt that *anyone* thinks that autonomous vehicles are currently at 100%",
">Almost everything in this video is either patantly false or just the narrator not understanding what they’re saying. This is upvoted because this site loves pretending they know more than the engineers designing these things.\n\nWhat in this comment do you disagree with? What requires you to take my word over others? I’m very explicitly saying to trust the engineers over a video by a layman.\n\nWhy are you telling me to trust the engineers in response to a comment where I say to trust the engineers?",
"You're fighting layman. Everyone down voting you either 1) doesn't understand how any of this works and simply thinks it's cool, or 2) is too lazy to do the calculations themselves. \n \nThe energy density of this stuff is so atrociously bad, that any sort of \"mass at a height\" scheme simply results in absurdly large / bad infrastructure at scale. This video could have simply stopped at \"we'll need 1 of these concrete lego towers for every 2 windmills\". That alone tells you this is simply a bad idea. \n \nSeveral years ago I wanted to do an off grid house, and did the calculations for some ideal concrete wheel, attached to a motor / generator, rolling up and down a hill next to the house. I ran the numbers a few different ways, and every time the concrete wheel had to be so comically large that I had to finally concede \"this is dumb\". \n \nPeople like mechanical ideas because it's familiar to them, and not abstract. But the reality of hydrocarbon energy density is so intense. And even battery chemistry energy density is just barely starting to break into feasibility for large scale power needs. That our ability to find equivalents for them for storage is severely inhibited right now. Moving concrete legos around will never make it. Unless the ability to build, use, and maintain the concrete lego machine becomes free. \n \nEven pumped hydro only encounters feasibility by exploiting natural phenomenon: local available of large bodies of water, natural topography that requires little investment (relative to the capacity) to leverage large capacities. Towers of concrete legos have neither.",
"There are many more sites usable for pumped storage than are usable for straight up hydro-electric generation. You need a significant flow of water for generation, but for storage you need much less water as you can re-use the smaller amount of water you have available.\n\nI think at this point in global warming we have to accept some loss of wildlife. Loss of wildlife locally isn't as significant as loss of wildlife globally. Sacrifices have to made everywhere, and that means environmentalists will need to compromise on some things like everyone else. When it gets right down to it, would you rather all of the wildlife die in a forest fire caused by global warming or a percentage of them die because of a dam project? These are the choices that we have to make now.\n\nAnd again, back to thermodynamics. Sure, concrete is more dense than water, but there's going to be a lot of air gaps in this power vault idea, while water has a tendency to use up all the area it's in. It seems like either solution is going to take up a similar amount of space, so there will be similar loss of wildlife habitat in either scenario.\n\nThere could be some scenarios where a power vault might make sense over pumped storage, but it seems more likely that when selecting a site for a wind farm they'll just choose locations near to where pumped storage is possible. It feels like a bit of a chicken and the egg kinda situation. Maybe with enough R&D a power vault concept may work, but if everyone builds their wind farms near to pumped storage no one will invest in the R&D on the power vault because it isn't necessary because the wind farms will all be located near pumped storage.\n\nBesides, it feels like it's a little late in the game to be trying to come up with new concepts to solve global warming. We already have proven technologies that can solve the problem, we just need to expand the use of them. Going back to the drawing board doesn't get us any close to solving the problem.",
"I've got a bachelor's in mechanical engineering and did a minor in sociology focused on energy infrastructure. I'm no expert, but here's my take:\n\nIt's not a totally stupid idea because pumped hydro (while being a superlative solution when it's a good fit to the site) is an ecological disaster when it doesn't fit the site well, and the the US grid is so shit at transmitting power over long distances to the extent that getting to a point where the vast majority of consumers in the US could be connected to efficient energy storage would destroy the extrinsic efficiency of those systems. The crane idea is admittedly much better fit in the vicinity of solar plants than wind plants, but not needing to transmit the power across 1/4 of the country and back mitigates a large chunk of the efficiency advantages of pumped hydro. \n\nI think experimenting with solutions like this is a great idea, but we also need to put a ton of effort into optimizing the US electrical grid for efficient long distance transmission. Doing this would push back the date when we'd need to rely on nuclear or energy storage to offset the deficiencies of renewables when the weather was disagreeable. I'm a huge fan of nuclear power, but the political risks of it aren't possible to ignore, even if they're not being driven by rational actors. The single best thing you could do to increase the political viability of nuclear power is to do grid improvements such that you could locate plants in remote areas. \n\nThere is not enough volume of water in reservoirs to meet the energy storage needs of the US if we fully committed to 0 carbon emissions.\n\nAlso, make sure to down cycle electric car batteries. That's never a bad idea. We should provide tax credits to EV manufacturers that collect enough info on late life battery performance such that they can be plugged into large scale energy storage facilities.\n\nEdit: spelling",
"I'm saying that the specific technology Tesla uses will never accomplish 100% full self driving. Tesla's vehicles use cameras and night vision and have trained software to interpret the images and respond to the images. The result of this is that if Tesla's software can't see something or doesn't understand what it is seeing it can't react. In one case a Tesla sped up and smashed into a guardrail (killing the driver). In another it smashed into a police car. Tesla hasn't revealed what caused these things.\n\nWith full self driving the automaker would insure all damages caused by the vehicle. So you wouldn't need liability insurance anymore.\n\nThe technology that makes self driving work is called Lidar and it's significantly more expensive than the cameras but has the potential for 100% accuracy. Lidar sends out a radar like pulse and is able to use it to map out the next 20 KM. Because it's not reliant on camera visibility it provides hyper accurate real time data allowing for the software to plan rather than just react.",
"What about doing it in water, with a block that has an inflatable 'raft' that can be deflated/inflated to let the block fall/float back up (on a guide wire that supplies the air, or maybe a refillable tank when it's near surface, as well as spins a turbine).",
"Why does it have to be concrete? Why not a big bag/container of rocks?",
"Thanks Reddit that shows me something cool that might really be helpful for the world.... and then a couple days later, proceeding to tell me what a dumbass I was for falling for that Theranos level BS. .... ... ... why do I come to this site again?",
"It's worth keeping in mind that while there might be an optimal energy storage solution for any given site, there's unlikely to be an optimal energy storage solution for the entire grid unless battery price comes way, way, way, way down.",
"As someone in a master's program in engineering, this video is shit",
"Concrete is better at supporting itself.",
"Man, if only there was some way to combine the compressive strength, density and low cost of concrete with the tensile strength of steel in some sort of composite material. Wouldn't that be one hell of a moonshot?",
"Especially when the current grid is so shit at long distance transmission.",
"Because you can't build pumped hydro anywhere?",
"What happenes if I live in a completely flat area with plentiful wind power and transmission efficiency to and from pumped hydro would be on the order of 40% each way?",
"I'd argue it's completely superlative in sites where it can be used efficiently and without massive ecological impacts. No other forms of energy storage come close if we constrict ourselves to those specific conditions. The issue is that we need more energy storage than just what pumped hydro can provide and (at least in the US) the grid is terrible at shuffling power over long distances. Mediocre energy storage close by will wipe the floor with great energy storage a long way away.",
"But thunderfoot is a physicist right? The guy has a million shit takes on feminism but he seems like he knows his shit when it comes to these topics.",
"The only thing of value this guy said in the entirety of the video was, \"I'm not an engineer, but...\"\n\nAnyone who freely admits they aren't trained or educated in something, then proceeds to call the experts a bunch of idiots is a fool.",
">Basically an extremely well funded\n\nThe pay is probably alright.",
"Be patient! Stay in those communities, take part in the discussions, and especially learn the rules before you worry about posting.",
"Err.. yeah there are plenty of problems with finding suitable sites for pumped hydro but it's nowhere near *that* restricted. I mean, a good hydroelectric dam needs a significant existing river to dam up. Pumped hydro needs no water course at all, just a high spot and a low spot and enough water piped in to counteract evaporation. For example, there is at least one pumped hydro system operating at the moment in and abandoned mine. There are pumped hydro plants sitting atop high coastal cliffs using sea water. Siting is hard, but nowhere near as hard as finding a good spot for a hydroelectric dam.",
"And then he pissed it all away.",
"So can pumped storage! You just have a closed system not an open one. I would be willing to bet my entire net worth this never gets built, other than a possible prototype if they con enough fools in to supporting it.",
"To make it look cool that's all this is for it's not ment to ever get made, just attract as much funding as possible.",
"It's mass, you need the same mass of concrete as you do water. If you drop it the same distance.",
"Only if you design an open system if you design a closed system then it's closed. How do you think power plants have a closed system and literally superheat the water then them.",
"So does this.",
"Not really. This can hold far, far more energy than any water tower lol",
"I hope you see the irony in your comment.",
"Damn you physics and your transmission losses",
"I fucking hate internet. Every moron who is stupid enough to talk confidently about things he has zero clue about has own YouTube channel. And people keep eating that shit. \"Digging holes\" is way way way more expensive than just putting a slightly modified autonomous crane somewhere to handle weights in a very specific manner. Gravity is a perfect way to store energy and places where you might want to put wind turbines are usually pretty flat. So this crane tower is actually a pretty solid idea. And, yes it might need some further modifications, but that's how engineering works, you have to start somewhere with your idea and test and its capabilities and limitations.",
"Oh yeas because it's impossible build a bigger water tower. Much harder than creating an automated system that can stack concrete blocks perfectly while accounting for random gusts of wind. In fact I would guess this is probably the worst possible way to store windturbine energy as it will not work when it's windy and the turbines are generating. There is 100% payed shilling go on in this thread, far to many \"people\" using the exact same phrasing.",
"Yeah, I was trying to figure out if it would have been possible using locks and displacement (like how they used to move ships up in locks without electricity) so that pumps wouldn't be needed, and instead of transporting electrical energy down long lines (with massive loss) you could just be letting water flow down these long channels (still with loss, but possibly more cost effective).",
"While I am not an engineer, the engineering doesn't need to be that sophisticated. Every building already contains means to maintain water pressure at every level. Extra storage within the buildings tolerance is no big deal. The only true engineering is recovering the energy. Heck you could attach an energy extractor to the buildings waste pipes.\n\nThere is opportunity here.",
"He's a total hack and a grifter",
"> How do you think power plants have a closed system and literally superheat the water then them.\n\nBecause one of them is the size of a large building, and one of them is the size of a lake. There are plenty of buildings, not so many indoor lakes.",
"So? Doesn't mean it can't be done, if we can design a water tight system at huge temperatures and pressures, one at room temperature and pressure is not exactly hard. And anyway evaporation from a property designed system would be negligible in the short term anyway.",
"Rockies have thousands of miles of tunnels in them dug already from a century of mining. Many of them have powerlines going to them still. Could be used for pumped storage.",
"the large ponds necessary can used for recreation purposes like boating.",
"Imagine a world where someone didn't already think of this, but much better. Then it would have been a good idea.\n\nOkay then",
"And this vault concept isn't pie in the sky? NIMBYism effects anything you try to do. It's a struggle even to build power lines and none of these ideas work without them. \n\nBut in the end NIMBYism is just an annoyance. Pumped storage is a proven technology that we can start building now. Yes, you need to go through a process of getting approval and hand holding the NIMBYs but you have to do that no matter what you do. We can either start that process now or start in 5-10 years from now (or however long until this vault idea is viable, if ever) with this vault thing, but it's the same process either way. \n\nI wish these people developing this vault thing a lot of luck, but we have finite resources and a finite amount of time that we really can't be gambling on \"maybe someday\" technologies. If we're constantly waiting for better technologies (and it's very debatable whether vaults are actually better) to mature we'll end up doing nothing. We have the technology we need to solve global warming right now, we just need to implement it, and these blue sky concepts causing indecisiveness isn't really a good thing IMO.",
"No one is building this mate",
"Totally agree. Not the point of questioning derogatory randoms on Reddit.",
"This could very well be vaporware, but declaring the whole project infeasible because of wind is weird.",
"Not just cause of wind, that's just the most obvious problem. It's a solution to a problem when there are much better solutions already. What problem does this solve that, batteries or water can't. It just adds complexity for zero gain.",
">What problem does this solve that, batteries or water can't. It just add complexity for zero gain.\n\nPumped storage requires specific geography to be feasible. Gravity storage could theoretically be deployed anywhere. Pumped storage also requires enormous capital investment where as the gravity storage has the potential to be more modular.\n\nAnd it may be inferior to batteries, that's a grid storage option that is in its infancy as well. That would be an interesting discussion that both this video and Thunderf00t's video ignored in favor of declaring wind an insurmountable problem and saying pumped storage is preferable when nobody was arguing otherwise.",
"You claim his video is trash and/or bullshit. Why should I trust your reddit comment over his video? (Not trying to say your comment was invalid. I think my comment might have come off to harsh.)",
"What is it with the phrase specific geography? It's all over this thread are you being paid to post it, is it coming from a video you have watched?\n\n last time I checked two tanks one above the other does not require \"specific geography\" whatever that is. If you think this will somehow be cheaper than pumped storage your in for a shock. Also pumped storage is gravity storage, mass is mass, if the ground can support concrete blocks it can support water.",
"My problem with this video is that it basically paints the whole concept of energy storage with the same paint brush. Are there problems with this specific design? Sure. (Although alot of the video creators arguments don't make any sense, either....I especially like his \"I am not an engineer, but...\" followed by an attempt at an engineer's argument.) \n\nEnergy storage is a thing now (consider the oil reserves that a lot of countries are sitting on) and will be in the future as well as we shift to non-fossil fuels. Constructive criticism is one thing, but something similar to this will happen.",
"I don't. He provides no sources or barely any evidence. Making it hard to fully support any of his videos.",
"I'm still only getting several Wh per 55 gallon drum.\n\nI've got appliances consuming 2kW to boil water, it would run through an entire drum's worth of electricity in seconds. \n\nSo to be specific, the problem I've got with your plan is that I estimate the number of people in London attempting to make tea somewhere between 6 and 10 am to be a bit higher than 42000.",
">What is it with the phrase specific geography?\n\nBecause pumped storage requires two large, flat areas separated by a steep elevation change which then must undergo extensive study to examine things like flood risk and environmental impacts that are outside the scope of the discussion. \"Specific geography\" is a more succinct phrase. If you don't like it, I don't care.\n\n>last time I checked two tanks one above the other does not require \"specific geography\"\n\nBecause you're not comprehending the amount of water needed. When pumped storage is used to generate electricity, the flow rates are typically on the order of millions of gallons per minute (between 7 and 12 million gallons per minute are the most common numbers I have been able to find). The largest overhead water tank in the world holds just shy of ten million gallons and covers 4 acres of land with giant steel structure to raise the tank 110 ft in the air. That would provide a minute or two of power as a pumped storage solution.\n\n>Also pumped storage is gravity storage, mass is mass, if the ground can support concrete blocks it can support water.\n\nGround support is not the problem. Concrete is a solid and will hold its shape in the absence of an external container. Water is a liquid and will take the shape of whatever container it is in. You need a big ass tank (as in two or three orders of magnitude larger than any raised tank that has ever been built) several hundred feet in the air.",
"Isn't the idea behind these energy storage systems to provide additional power to the grid at times of stress and low production by normal generation methods. \nBecause buildings already have water infrastructure you actually gain storage 'for free' - which kind of negates the 'using surplus energy' part of the process.\n\nThe idea was never to return power to the building per se, but to the Grid.\n\nWhile thinking (not very deeply) about this, it occurred to me that there is an awful lot of kinetic energy lost through waste water systems. \nSomething to ponder on.",
"You could also build a water tower by stacking concrete. You could then re-use the crane to build even more water towers.\n\nIt's not that it's impossible for this thing to work, it's just that it's not the most efficient use of resources.",
"They're usually both, which was my point.",
"They are frequently not, and will store power from all over the grid, not just hydro.",
"I already the math in another comment, the worlds largest eater tower only has, at most, one hundredth the capacity of the energy vault prototype. If you want to try and design a water tower that 100 towers worth of water be my guest lmao",
"If you dont know even the basics of pumped storage requirements dont go around talking about why pumped storage is so great compared to this lol",
"The site also has to be close to population centers otherwise you are gonna get fucked by transmission losses. The reservoirs also cant be very far apart horizontally otherwise your efficiency gets fucked as well.\n\nTurns out sites with all these requirements are slim pickings",
"thats not how math works but okay",
"If your already stacking concrete, why would you store water on top of it instead of just using the concrete blocks themselves?",
"Because water is cheaper than cranes.",
"But you already need the crane to stack the blocks.",
"since this is such a good idea, i sugest you invest every penny you have in it and get rich.",
"In case you didnt actually watch the video, a company is already on it. I dont have to do shit to make it happen lol",
"yeah they are listing on the stock market you can invest there",
"Why would i invest in an unproven start up again lol I love the idea, but I know nothing about the company and their ability to execute.",
"Right, but like I said solar panels would be dumb and I don’t think anyone seriously suggesting solar roads mean that.\n\nhttps://amp.interestingengineering.com/solar-paint-transforms-your-entire-house-into-a-source-of-clean-energy\n\nPhotovoltaic paint (solar paint) on the other hand sounds like a great idea. There would still be the issue of debris and oil ruining the efficiency. But a building with solar paint or panels will have the same issues, the air in cities/towns are full of soot, dirt, and dust.",
"becasue your very very insistant this is specificly how energy from wind turbines will be stored, which is a huge issue for the future.",
"What does that have to do with how the company is organized again? Once again, since you didnt read the last time, I like the idea but I know nothing about their ability to execute it.",
"so i am saying this is specificly not the solution (other gravity systems may be) and you are saying you have no idea but want to argue it anyway?",
"Solar roads were indeed special solar panels made to theoretically handle traffic, but the issue is still with how much more expensive they are than building a roads and solar panels separately. And if something is not economical, then it is ultimately hurting the goal of clean energy generation, because you end up producing orders of magnitude less clean energy for the same cost. \n\n\nI do not believe photovoltaic has come far enough to leave lab tests yet, but I don't know for sure or what the future is for that. But regardless anything on the roads has to be extremely durable to handle truck traffic and not make the road worse. Which is an enormous task, and almost certainty be cheaper just to paint the top of buildings with like you had said. Roads don't need to be altered, and probably shouldn't be in this particular goal with clean energy",
"No, I believe the could idea work, but I have little faith in startups until they actually produce results. Its pretty simple, I dont get what you dont understand about it",
"Yes, but cranes can be moved to build water towers elsewhere. The vault requires the cranes to be permanent. One crane can build thousands of water towers or be a part of just one vault.",
"But you'd need a far bigger crane to get a water tower than even compete in terms of energy density. Add in the cost of transportation and reconstruction for such a monstrosity at every site I dont see that being more economical than a bunch of concrete blocks and much smaller crane.",
"i understand it 100% but i dont think it is the future of mass grid energy storage. The fact that it wont work in high winds when your turbines are generating at their best and you need to store the energy, seems to be all the nails in the coffin that are required. Every crane on the planet has a wind speed limit of \\~20-40 mph and these cranes are trying to stack a wall, unpredictable gusts will make that impossibe.",
"Again, wtf does that have to with my faith in the companies ability to execute a project that I believe could work.",
"There must be better ways of storing excess day time solar power than this. First of all this should be in a hole lowering the blocks. Wind would mess it all up. Why concrete blocks. Could just have metal containers with heavy filling. This is so badly thought out that it must be a scam."
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The Energy Vault is a Dumb Idea, Here's Why
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6p_3s0d9TI
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/r/videos/comments/rkj6ns/forget_spiderman_2003_daredevil_is_king/
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"Underrated movie. Majorly ridiculous stuff in it and a lot of schlock, but some of it is highly enjoyable schlock. Extended edition is a much better movie. Foggy is a highlight and was clearly the model for the Happy Hogan character. Bullseye is so fucking over the top that it's kind of endearing. I didn't buy Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin, but I kind of liked him anyway. I can see why a lot of people hate the movie though.",
"Is there no other upload of this trailer, that you had to settle for this one?",
"the song at the end is a banger forsure old school haha"
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Forget Spiderman, 2003 Daredevil is king.
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/r/videos/comments/rkj73v/can_i_touch_it_mans_mysterious_third_testicle/
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[
"Can this post be marked NSFW?",
"That guys got some balls... going on national television.",
"Why?",
"Somebody showing a testicle isn't NSFW?",
"Clearly you didn't watch the video.",
"Well if they're at work, based on the title, can you blame them?"
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“Can I Touch It?” Man’s Mysterious “Third Testicle”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WltQJeLghRk
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/r/videos/comments/rkjabe/you_run_a_tight_ship_here_julian/
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[
"/r/NotTimAndEric",
"The director ran a tight ship. One take, that’s it!",
"This is the start of a porno, right?",
"MRW I'm Adult Swim and accidentally got hired to make a real advert.",
"They way she looked at Julian she said he runs a right ship was straight up porno acting.",
"I mean the commercial it self is awful but like... Whats this an ad for? Just veal? like any kind, just please, eat more veal... we have family's my sons goes to Brown, please, buy more VEAL!!!",
"> family's \n\nPlease, it's families.",
"It's a beef industry commercial to drive up demand. So yeah, it's just kind of an ad for veal, in general.",
"well idk about you but im convinced. \n\nI mean I figured it was the unhuman and unethical killing of baby cow, but they all seam kind of existed for that beef... I mean veal",
"I was looking for this video a while ago I thought I lost it"
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You run a tight ship here, Julian!
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[
"Check out [Black Grapes “Get Higher”](https://youtu.be/clwbhgmwELc) that uses bits of this. One of the standouts from the Jackal soundtrack.",
"Nancy, the Throat GOAT!",
"Just say 'Not now, maybe later' to drugs...",
"So was the original video before or after he personally knew the Contras were drug trafficking and ordered the CIA to continue to supply them with money because Communist are worse then drug dealers."
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Just Say Yes to Drugs: The Regans Speak Out
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLHb2GxL2Q&ab_channel=TimHeidecker
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[
"I’ve been a fan since before Allentown",
"I liked when Fuentes called in to Tim's show. Now THAT was funny.",
"this couldn't be more staged and less funny",
"i disagree with those facts",
"Opinion, moron",
"Isn't this clearly a scripted bit? Come on.",
"Remember the playground? Tim was like, \"Fuck you.\"",
"No shit.",
"This is clearly Tim Allen",
"Good old days. Before all the ca$$$$$h grabs.",
"One of these guys used to be a real piece of shit.",
"Very astute of you to notice that the professional comedian with his own Netflix show who is talking into a microphone during a scheduled live comedy performance is doing a preplanned bit. Nothing gets past you!",
"Go back like 20, 30 years, that's when Tim was really changing things.",
"Yeah he should really get back to doing the old stuff!",
"You mean to tell me the purposefully recorded event I just witnessed was fabricated? I need a moment.",
"What an appropriate user name.",
"You think *this* is slicked back? This is *pushed* back!",
"My toddler is so smart. One day he said to me \"I don't think people can change from being a piece of shit.\" This was after we watched a whole table of dudes pouring water all over their steaks and get kicked out.",
"c a s h g r a b",
"NO SLOPPY STEAKS!!!!",
"Wasn't he on the Colgate comedy hour",
"Imagine thinking this is funny. Heidecker is actually a piece of shit. He got a great show canceled because he's too woke and he saw it as a threat. This seems like a total cope to have Robinson play the \"hater\" so Heidecker can dunk on people saying he fell off.",
"And the other is a huge fan of the Colgate Comedy Hour.",
"What show do you refer to?",
"LET'S SLOP EM UP!",
"Hey look, it’s Tim Robinson doing his one character, but in real life.",
"Sam Hyde's crappy adult swim show.",
"It’s a really great one, i’d rather have performers do one really funny thing good, than 20 unfunny things bad.",
"And what about the Electric sun 20? Those poor kids died because of that monster. Apart from the one who died of a heroin overdose.\n\nAnd he just bribed a juror and got away scot free. An absolute travesty.",
"Am I alone in thinking Tim Robinson isnt funny?",
"Yeah, everyone is threatened by alt-right comedy because its so funny! Him whining and crying on Office Hours is the funniest thing Sam Hyde has ever done.",
"Imagine being so mad alt right comedy got put in its place and burying your head in the sand ever since because comedy is being made by “the wrong guys”? Go cry about it. Or support MDE on their still active YouTube. Or make your own comedy if all this sucks so much?",
"Yes. You’re literally the only one. Congratulations.",
"He has his moments. His show just has too many of the same skit",
"\"Antifa is racist\" lolllll\n\nLook at this chode",
"> got put in its place\n\nhahahahah wahhhhhhhh the bad man said mean things that corporations tell me is bad wahhhhhhhh hahahahaha\n\nImagine basing your entire personality on being a corporate shill. When your ideas are aligned with trillion dollar companies that employ slave labor in China you definitely fucked up. But yeah, it's the Sam Hyde's of the world that need be to put in their place ahahhahahahahahahahaha holy fuyck man",
"hahahahahah\n\nYeah, using your power, money and wealth to censor a show that's objectively funnier than 90% of what you've put out the last 5 years is so funny! OMG so funnyyyyyyyyy",
"> chode\n\nyeah my big cheese wheel is gonna spread those cheeks bruh.",
"wait is that a reference or are there sick people out there watering steaks?",
"Shout louder clearly it’s working very well for you. I’m sure MDE will be back on the air any day now. Then Sam will put those women in their place for not fucking you. Simp for Sam harder. \n\nImagine projecting this hard?\n\n“Imagine basing your entire personality on being [contrarian]” yep that’s you.",
"\"the free market decided my favorite comedy wasn't funny! I hate the free market!\"\n\n-fascist",
"“Objectively funnier” ok if it’s objective I need proof.",
"No. He's one of these \"random\" guy hacks that's riding the \"awkward\" comedy wave that Tim and Eric started. I still think T&E was funny, but Heidecker is high as fuck if he thinks his new woke infused comedy is even close to being funny.",
"Heidecker's wife's son's gay boyfriend would never make such insults.",
"!>it's a skit from Tim Robinson's Netflix show I think You Should Leave!<\n\nWhy isn't this working damnit",
"Heidecker has sunk so low. Imagine losing a debate with Fuentes lolol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syAQEro1n1Q&ab_channel=WelcomeToSociety",
"Had higher ratings than anything Tim has made in the last 5 years hahahahahahahahaha that's why he had it canceled hahahahahahahahaha",
"Is...this Sam Hyde? Same kind of whiny delusional voice. I guess crying about unfair treatment while claiming to be superior is on brand for his politics though, so at least he's consistent.",
"lolol so quirky random and funny!!!!!!!!! wow so random! so funny!",
"> Simp for Sam harder.\n\nBig daddy sam hyde needs to go fight heidecker and that money grubbing curley head fuck vic berger or else I'm gonna cry. i need to simp for big daddy sam. you're right man. fuck I'm down so bad dude. i can't believe I'm doing this. omg man. fuck. oh no.",
"I measured it. Sam Hyde is 97 funny, Tim Heidecker is 84 funny.\n\n/s",
"You sure showed me?",
"Where is the objective proof? If it’s irrefutable fact what’s the debate?",
"This whole thing just seems like a big CASH GRAB",
"I blame Tims new direction for the failure of CornCob TV",
"Thank you!",
"flip your first bit.",
"I was just joking, I assumed it would be obvious. I’m not the guy from above either.",
"Go even further.",
"God I can't stand Tim Robinson",
"dude thats the joke",
"No worries bro, maybe use the sarcasm tag next time? “/s”\n\nEdit: the tag wasn’t there when I commented this lmao.",
"Are they actually from Allentown?",
"It totally is Sam Hyde lmao",
"I thought i was the only one completely missing what is supposed to be funny about this guy screaming nonsense, is this a bit Heidecker is in on? Or is he just heckling him? i genuinly can't tell and i feel either way it's not funny",
"hahaha so funny!!!!",
"30, 40, even a hundred years.",
"le epic reply good redditsir!",
"this is sam hyde's big brother, ham syde. I'm a huge fat fuck that thinks vic berger is funny and not a complete fucking hack that would kill his own mother to sniff a penny",
"you just proved it",
"free market hahahahahahahahahahah omg man\n\nthe ratings were literally and verifiably better than anything tim has done in years, but it was the free market hhahahaha holy fuck ahahahhahaahhahahahaa",
"They found the horn!",
"Ok I’ll let you have the last word this time. I swear.",
"He’s hit or miss in my opinion. When he hits it’s gold though. I think his show is funny at times but it has the potential to be a lot better.",
"WHAT???",
"What's the background on him getting a show cancelled?",
"> media companies and multi-national corporations that employ slave labor, decimate resources and control information are objectively good because they changed their twitter profile to a rainbow flag during gay month\n\n^ you",
"Lol gottem",
"Dude as an objective observer, you seem a little triggered with your 20-ha-long \"hahas.\" Maybe step away from the computer for a bit?",
"I can taste the salt though the computer. This can’t be healthy for you.",
"They can’t stop you from ordering a steak and a glass of water….",
"I’m a media company and multi-national corporation that changed their Twitter profile? Cool.\n\nLooks like you’re having a busy morning on this here thread. Keep up the hard work!",
"heidecker refused to battle sam hyde in the marketplace of ideas, and look how low he's sunk now. he has to pay other shit comedians to do hacky bits about haters so he can prove a point.\n\nalso, vic berger would do anything for $12",
"seeth harder",
"yeah I'm down so bad man. I'm seething. fuck what am I gonna do?!",
"fuk man I'm in such a bad place. i can't believe how much more funny and better everyone in this thread is man. omg I'm so fucked. oh man. fuck what am i going to do. omg",
"*tips fedora",
"I dunno why but I loved this.\nTim and Eric is mainstream! It's for jocks!",
"heidecker has massive pull at adult swim, as you can imagine, and got world peace canceled because Tim doesn't like the fact that the guy who created the show didn't do woke comedy and supported donald trump.",
":)",
"Sam Hyde, an edgelord trying to bring 4chan humor to Adult Swim got his show cancelled after 5 episodes or something. He's been crying ever since that it was Tim who got the show cancelled with 0 evidence, mostly because Tim isn't a Trump supporter. It's typical alt-right complaining that people don't like them. \n\n\nYou can listen to him calling into Tim's show on YouTube",
"https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561?s=20",
"I thought he was gonna talk about his cameo on redlettermedia….",
"Oh my b here have the last word this time.",
"I’d be scared of that nazi as well",
"Same, the first ep in the new season had me in stitches but then the next couple were mostly misses for me",
":(",
"Hehe dril so funny",
"The guys at Spectrum think I’m just some dumb hick.",
"This is like a lesser version of an [Andy Kaufman bit](https://youtu.be/fBUPdOctFXI)",
"Fuck how do I do this? Sorry again not good with this stuff. Why is antifa racist?",
"Simp harder idk?",
"You’re just gonna ignore the guy who said your name looks like butthole? That’s harsh.",
"Tim is, but Tim isn’t.\n\nEdit: Tim went to liberty I think. I’ve seen him at the brass rail. Tim on the other hand is from Detroit.",
"> Sam Hyde\n\nthe nazi?",
">this guy\n\nIs comedian Tim Robinson who Tim Heidecker absolutely knows.\n\n> is this a bit\n\nYes\n\n>Heidecker is in on?\n\nMaybe he knew ahead of time, maybe he didn't, but he ran with it\n\n>i genuinly can't tell\n\nWell",
"More laughs than that show ever got ☝️\n\nRegale us with whatever review bomb your fellow white nationalists coordinated for this turd of a program lol",
"I think he's a crappy person but the show was good.",
"He's definitely a bad person but that Ted Talk thing was great",
"It's a bit but God damn Tim Robinson is just not funny. People keep downvoting me but what is funny here? His delivery is grating, the idea is not worth carrying on about. It's the anti-comedy equivalent of YouTube/TikTok personalities that use wacky voices and facial expressions.",
"They said that to me... At a dinner",
"Frequent guest, yeah",
"Totally",
"ASCII -> Binary convertor just gives me this when I do that:\n\n�>it's a skit from Tim Robinson's Netflix show I think You Should Leave!<\n\nWhy isn't this working damnit",
"Just a big c a s h g r a b",
"The incel who supports the taliban? yeah he sure showed Tim",
"I thought so about Robinson because of the Detroiters show. Didn’t know that about heidecker though, I grew up like 20 minutes away from Allentown. I didn’t know anything good came from there.",
"Big ol' rare cut of meat with water dumped on it - water splashin' around!",
"Remember when people thought Andy faked his death as some sort of performance piece?\n\nPepperidge Farms remembers.",
"Literally never happened but go off crybaby",
"I feel like I watch Sam Hyde because some friends said he was hilarious once. I continue watching because I'm still trying to figure out how people think his material is funny. I assume brain damage might be a common factor in people thinking his stuff is funny.",
"Bobcat Goldthwait for zoomers is ok",
"you can tell someone is really upset when they physically write out that many \"hahas\"",
"Well that was a fun read. I feel like mr. anti fascist racist was typing pretty hard on his keys with each reply. It's okay man. Some people don't agree with you. Don't let it upset you so much. Thanks for the fun read you two!",
"oh ho ho look at mr big brain over here. must make a lotta money with that big brain. prolly enough to buy yourself one of those shirts with all the complicated patterns from Dan Flashes.",
"What are you even trying to do...",
"mmm fuck yeah put it in my hubuhodle baby",
"WOW, that couldn't be more bang on my dude!",
"Sam Hyde literally donated to a Neo-Nazis legal defense. Is not like actual Nazis \"too woke\" now? \n\nShut the fuck up.",
"It’s like watching a 12 year old have a meltdown over call of duty, but I have to read it instead of listen to it",
"I’m cool if people don’t agree with me. If they could elaborate on their views tho that would be grand. Maybe then we could both learn?",
"Didn't zmuda make a few appearances as Tony Clifton after he died?",
"He's just not funny.",
"Proof? Should I link the phone call or are you gonna do it? It’s cringe asf I love it.",
"Pfffft, CASHGRAB!",
"If I remember right yes he did, further fueling the theory.",
"Yeah man, it's crazy",
"I'm not the biggest Tim Robinson fan but I can see why other people find it funny. It's totally ok to not share the same sense of humor as other people, no reason getting worked up about it.",
"I’d just prefer it if this guy can do one funny thing. Still waiting.",
"That happened.",
"thanks \"antifa is racist\" you clearly have good opinions on things.",
"I would be mad about MDE if Sam Hyde or that show in general was funny at all, it's egdy for edgy's sake. Sam's had a few good bits under his belt but over all he's just bitter and edgy. The fan base was pretty rough too.",
"Sure, plenty of good. Ya got the LVH Phantoms, ya got yoccos, also the other stuff",
"I think overall I didn't enjoy his show, but I won't deny I laughed a few times.",
"You are in /r/videos, read the side bar!",
"He's no Roy Donk.",
"Closer to Bob Odenkirk",
"Based",
"This fuckin’ world is so fucked up.",
"Flip the first bit",
"He isn’t funny to me either. I tried his Netflix show and maybe laughed 2 times during the first season",
"Ahh, yes. The famous racist, Mr. Antifa.",
"I suggest folks watch this video and decide for themselves who actually \"won\" and not rely on a guy who thinks there's a person named Antifa and that they're racist.",
"I love watching people getting triggered by Tim Heidecker",
"Was he the guy that made that sort of viral video “Bozo dubbed over”?",
"His wife is sick. But she’s going to get better! Tell the kid.",
"A-Treat. \nMack trucks if you’re into that kind of thing. \nEnd of list.",
"I’m imagining what you look like while you’re typing this and it’s *hilarious*",
"Tim has 0 pull at adult swim anyways. He had to go make a fucking network to continue his show.",
"Lol he has so much pull that he had to go create his own network to continue OCATC, alright then.",
"Fuck dude, you got me. I’m down so bad right now",
"I have a huge set of pig tits. Hope you’re imaging that",
"Yeah I’m hella triggered",
"Oops. Forgot, Pepsi told me Antifa isn’t real. All the burned down buildings shouldn’t have been so racist! They just spontaneously combusted. My bad",
"Cheers bruv",
"Literally the only non r-slurred reply in here. Congrats",
"Thanks dude, been trying really hard",
"Link it up daddy",
"Perfect explanation",
"Wait wut? Sam Hyde is a good boy who didn’t do nothing wrong",
":)",
"Yeah I’m down tremendously",
"Le epic amounts of brain damage good sir",
"K. I’ll go cry more",
"I’m a black nationalist actually ✊🏾",
"K I’m gonna sit in my room and try real hard to simp harder",
":/",
"Maybe you wouldn't look like an idiot if you didn't get your politics from major corporations.",
"you've been failing loudly and miserably",
"Ass hole? I like dat? That’s like what you did back then!",
"It’s a PUT ON",
"My god man",
"omg! he has his own netflix show!>!? Like the other 500 people who have their own netflix specials do!??!?\n\nHE MUST BE INCREDIBLE!!!",
"My guy, your watching a video from a live podcast with guests and call ins shot last Thursday. He sold out a theater and streamed it for free. What more can he do? Sit in a room with a buddy and get 3k views per podcast talking about “all lives matter” wearing a 12 year old RISD college sweatshirt, smoking a cigar acting like he made it?",
"i know right",
"please help me",
"yeah, mainstream politics are always right leaning. you;re right. gay pride and changing the coca cola can to rainbow is for racists far right nazis. forgot. my b",
"chido robinson",
"Man, you're a real sensitive one.",
"> 0 evidence\n\n🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣",
"Being super fucking racist is a bit more than a mere disagreement. You boiling that conversation down to a mere disagreement is in the racism-normalization handbook.",
"Taliban is high key based",
"yeah the black nazi Sammy Hyroller",
"My guy, bud. Please, stop taking political opinions from major corporations.",
"did you just out yourself as sam hyde's bigest fan lol the fuck",
"He used to be a piece of shit. But people *can* change!",
"I watch his podcast. You guys are just the % of viewers that watch for the wrong reason and made him lose his show. Dumb asses think he’s speaking too you and it’s not a bit. Guy went to art school in Rhode Island.",
"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMMoPteQuCQ&t=65s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMMoPteQuCQ&t=65s)\n\nyou can start here",
"I thought this was going to be a legit call out, it's happened to Heidecker before like when Sam Hyde called his podcast to blame Tim for getting him fired and loosing his show.",
"Lmao holy shit you got roasted. Some manlet chads in this thread got a serious confidence boost by tearing you up 😂",
"Sure ya are honey",
"I watched that whole thing and when I was about to comment went to the bottom and saw a dozen people who I agree with had been downvoted up to 105 times each.\n\nThis might be the first time I’ve ever witnessed literally half of the top level comments had been collapsed because they were downvoted dozens of times.",
"I really miss Coffin Flop",
"Antifa is racist because emoji? Nice.",
"Yes you clearly are.",
"you're watching me?",
"anitfa is racist because they routinely silence powerful black voices. look into it man",
"thx bb",
"googabug. glub glub snail man",
"yeah sam is just making fun of people like me. yeah you;re right. fuck dude",
"yeah i need to stop doing that, yeah man. fuck. not you. me. right. yeah",
"how do I fix it?",
"tim has to pay other comedians to fake call him out so he can put the haters on blast 😤",
"bro I FEEL SEEN RIGHT NOW",
"Shut the fuck up Doug you FUCKING SKUNK",
"why take your word for it? gimme a link.",
"yes i can see you being a incel from here",
"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LbzgANX398&t=116s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LbzgANX398&t=116s)\n\nfound this sorry its little long. at least its full.",
"you don't want to hear my views or else you would have asked me. you just wanna dunk on people because they don't hold the same political beliefs as you. in reality, there's probably at least a few things we agree on, but you'd rather just be cool. the left has this problem. they're extremely smug.",
"Yes we are.",
"i don't even know why I'm replying to you because you're just going to avoid the question, but I'm opposed to racism. why are you calling me racist? what have I said that's racist?",
"I'll give you a link, but you have to promise to actually read the entire article, not just the headline okay? here it is → https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/23/portland-protest-racial-justice-oregon-black-lives-matter/",
"Ummm sorry I hurt your feelings? Please tell me your rational and reasonable viewpoint?",
"#NEVER LET THE PARTY DIE!",
"I believe those individuals are in the wrong to usurp a black lead movement for their own motives. To say that Antifa as a whole is racist because of this is arguing in bad faith. Antifa is leaderless. There is no game plan beyond opposing fascism. Are these individuals in the wrong? Absolutely. Is fascism suddenly the way? Fuck no.",
"We should find the guy who did this and give him a spanking!",
"Yea I mean, you're the one bringing up the politics of a God damn soda company. They don't actually agree with you anyways, they just want you to buy their product and now you're even shilling for them. Fucking weird, man.",
"I do miss A treat cream soda now that I live in CA",
"here are a few of my opinions. curious to get your feedback :) \n\n- Antifa is an organized criminal gang that is as fascist as the people they appear to be fighting. They have designated leaders in the pacific northwest, with funding avenues and ties to the local government. I'm not entirely convinced Antifa nationally is a single entity. The Antifa that I'm talking about is specific to cells within Portland and Seattle. To say these are not organizations is simply false. They perform organized crime on a near-nightly basis. They use BLM and anti-fascism as a front to perform arson, robbery, defacement and assault. Antifa members have routinely been caught as part of catalytic converter theft, chop shops and more organized crime.\n- Antifa, specifically the Antifa in the PNW, is a white faux anarchist group that only uses black voices to further the spread of marxism. When they face opposition from those same black voices, they silence them. Why? Because they're racist. This isn't up for debate, it literally happened → https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/23/portland-protest-racial-justice-oregon-black-lives-matter/\n- Right-leaning groups like the proud boys are incredible fucking dumb. Just because I think Antifa is a criminal gang doesn't mean I support the single digit IQs on the right. Having said that, these groups are far less dangerous than Antifa (*at least in the PNW) because they don't partake in organized crime. The worst they do is antagonize Antifa so they can all LARP in the streets and pretend to be at war with each other.\n\nAlright, so now that the Antifa stuff is out of the way. Here are some things we probably agree on.\n\n- healthcare is a human right, it should be free (within limits)\n- college should be free, at least basic college\n\nAlright, so now that that's out of the way. here are some opinions you might partially agree with.\n\n- corporations are evil, and use left-leaning politics to further their corporate greed. they do this because being a left-leaning person is status quo\n- china is evil. they have literal slaves, and they also allow north korean sex trafficking to exist. they're likely committing genocide that would rival nazi germany\n- elites don't have a political spetrum. there is no left or right when you get to the top. people like Trump prove this. his policies and actions are more left-leaning than biden. he's seen as this radical right wing dictator because he says mean things that people don't like. but at the top, all of these people are in on it. they all laught at us. they punish us. they hate us.",
"/r/facepalm",
"Now that you've figured that out did you actually have something to say?",
"You're arguing in bad faith. To suggest that being against Antifa is somehow fascist is asinine.\n\n99.999% of every human alive would say they're against fascism. That doesn't mean they're pro Antifa, which is a very different thing (an organized gang).\n\nLook. I can only speak to my own personal run-ins with Antifa. In those instances, it was an organized group of white anarchists that clearly had a leader, an organizational structure, funding, and ties to the local government here in Portland. That's the Antifa I'm against.",
"Lol half of them are by the same whiny nutjob, so no big surprise.",
"Two of my favorite funny people",
"Just because I’m an atheist, doesn’t mean I don’t believe in GOD",
"Who are the designated leaders? Antifa has no leadership. They are not organized in any way. I’m gonna need proof for specifically these claims.\n\nThe rest I honestly don’t have time for right now. But I appreciate you taking the time to give me such a detailed response.",
"We can all see that load and clear! Hard to miss it when you're neurotically answering every comment down here in the sub zero part of the comment section 😂",
"Next thing you're gonna tell us is that wrastlin is fake.",
"Seems like half of them are from the same person spamming their shit all over.",
"I mean in the message. Is that supposed to be a link to something?",
"A few leaders:\n\n- https://twitter.com/manicExpressive\n- https://twitter.com/_WhatRiot\n- https://twitter.com/Claudio_Report\n- https://twitter.com/PDXGabs\n- https://twitter.com/brainnotonyet\n\nAgain, these are people that run the criminal Antifa cell in Portland.",
"What are you even trying to do...",
"Have you read Masculinity in Decline by Henry Deever? Or Course Correction After The Rule Book Gets Throw Out by John TinTin?",
"How does this prove these individuals are leaders? Sorry I’m not from Portland",
"You know him. He's driving around in his classic cars.",
"Taliban would kill Fuentes for dating a catboy",
"Good news. The deal went through. I have triples of the nova now.",
"I didn't do fucking shit! \n\nI didn't rig shit!",
"Just body after body busting out of shit wood and hitting pavement.",
"It's his wife's daughter now, transphobe.",
"And I’d rather watch one performer do 20 unfunny things bad than watch my grandparents fucking. Doesn’t mean it’s fun to watch the former.",
"Lmao downvoted because it’s true",
"Oh no, somebody shared an opinion that’s different than mine",
"Yea, it’s a bit funny, but when there’s really nothing to it besides a goofy character that reacts the same way to everything, it gets old quick imo",
"Yea, this guy probably thinks 9/11 was improv even though it was clearly recorded on video.",
"Follow them long enough and follow their trails to Telegram channels. It’s real man. I’m not lying.",
"Yeah maybe",
"FUCK",
"I wrote that waiting for pasta to boil, I'm hardly getting worked up over it.",
"You’re probably the only one!",
"Ok pal",
"What are you going for here?",
"I can't believe that was the only thing Sam Hyde couldn't get away with.",
"Yea, I don’t think anybody here is besides the people downvoting because they disagree.",
">!They were trying to do a spoiler tag",
"Rofl if you think Tim Robinson got paid for this you are out of your mind. They're just having fun.",
"Just making fun of the arrogance of someone to think that they’re the only one who doesn’t find Tim Robinson funny.",
"Lmao what? Who said they’re the only one who finds Tim Robinson unfunny? Do you do the same thing to everybody else in the thread saying they like Tim Robinson?",
"What are cho jeans",
"Literally the person I replied to. Try to keep up",
"You didn’t think that was a rhetorical question? Or did you think they genuinely were asking if they were the only one in the world that didn’t like him?",
"I am really hoping it's andy who shows up \"from the dead\" at dealy plaza, and this whole Q thing has just been Andy fucking with America.",
"If you're trying to do a spoiler tag, you type >! before your message.\n\n>!Like this",
"Look, I’m just answering your question. It’s rhetorical and it’s dumb.",
"You realize I’m not the same guy? Is a question dumb just because you disagree with it? We’ve come full circle.",
"I’m aware. I feel like I’m the only one in this conversation who is aware of what’s going on, actually.",
"Sure I’ll bite, what’s going on in this conversation?",
"Do any of these fuckers ever blast out of the wall and have a huge cumshot?",
"That's fucked up that you can kind of...kind of...that duality can exist..",
"Most of the world is making fun of people like you",
"and what exactly do you mean when you say people like me?",
"I ‘ l l k i l l y o u",
"Paul Bufano! Paul Bufano!",
"Let’s spank his bare butt balls and back",
"3 seconds in and this guy is already cursing. good thing is not yelling too. i wanted to like him but just no",
"Multiply that by two.",
"Go even further",
"I mean we are talking millions if not thousands easily. Eeeasily.",
"I’m not worried about it, I’m not worried about any of this",
"You know they rigged those coffins",
"Further.",
"I mean really we could be talking pre big bang honestly. It's totally something to consider when going down the rabbit hole..",
"Pre-existence Tim Heidecker was definitely his best material. I really miss it a lot.",
"I mean really we are talking celestial bodies at this point and when Tim was creating the infinite, it was probably some of his most personal work at the time.",
"This reply conversation reads like a Tim Robinson skit, which unironically, isnt funny",
"You missed it. I brought us full circle. The nonsense is complete.",
"Figured.",
"Tim Heidecker is such a random bag for me. I love On Cinema (I'm a Gregg head) but I don't like most of his skits, except for a few.",
"Tim Heidecker only pays witnesses to take the stand as part of his bang-up defense"
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Tim Robinson pressures Tim Heidecker on his comedy styling being out of touch (live)
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https://youtu.be/UmxJU6mvIQo
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[
"I thought the headline of the people being molested in Facebooks Meta vr was stupid but after watching this I 100% understand, those people need therapy now. \n\nThe panicking and fumbling trying to get out of the room while some weirdo talks dirty into your ear is horrifying, took him a while to realize he needed to take off his headset.",
"So long as the VR pitch is \"ultra immersive\" tech, then the concern of violation remains valid.",
"OMG I'M LITERALLY SHAKING RN"
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What being violated in VR actually looks like
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https://youtu.be/DJW4c5QL8wM
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/r/videos/comments/rkkjro/a_year_of_vintage_style_i_took_a_photo_of_my_work/
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[
"You must have a huge closet. That's a huge amount of different outfits. Surely this cost a fortune.",
"I did go a bit crazy after getting into vintage style last year. I finally went from part-time work to a career level job so I had the money to slowly revamp my wardrobe. Lot to be said for layering though!\n\nDefinitely buying a lot less recently, have hit a point where I really don't need to buy more, and the pieces I have will last a long time so no need to replace things that wear out.",
"You have great style. I'm sure you will enjoy every price you have.",
"[Fast Fashion Is Hot Garbage | Climate Town](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6R_WTDdx7I)",
"I have the brands I buy from in the description of the video. Some of my basics are from cheaper brands I admit. 1 of my cardigans is from Shein for example, but the rest of them are from non fast fashion brands."
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A year of vintage style- I took a photo of my work outfits every day for a year
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https://youtu.be/vIC8cdnhaoA
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/r/videos/comments/rkljdz/back_when_conans_show_was_a_little_less_polished/
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[
"Conan was/is so much better than anyone on late night now.",
"...was Paget Brewster... Punky Brewster?!?!",
"Nah, I think that's Soleil Moon Frye",
"Paget Brewster also played Kathy on Friends (Joey's then Chandler's girlfriend)",
"Then he went full libtard in the 2010s…topped off with orange man bad syndrome. But for 15 years or so I loved his show. I think he got submarined from the Tonight Show by NBC. He never got a fair shake on that front.",
"You freaks are fun to laugh at, at this point. That aside, what a miserable existence it must be to live in constant hate.",
"Remembering the good times before TDS is not hate. It’s love for a time before leftist propaganda.",
"Oh man, when Conan broke down at the end about airing the episode I was bent over laughing.",
"And better than that loser Jay Leno",
"The funny thing about these shows is that the more polished they are the less likely I am to enjoy them. I think a lot of people feel that way and might be at least a bit of explanation on why podcasts took off.",
"I just learned that this morning, didn't realise she went on to do so many other shows. \n\n[Take a look at her IMDB](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0108295/filmotype/actress?ref_=m_nmfm_1), she's done a huge amount of voice acting as well as the TV shows she's been in.",
"funny",
"I always preferred Conan to Leno as well, but I don’t think a reasonable argument could be made that he is a “loser.” If this is about the whole “Leno took Conan’s job” thing…Leno brought in the viewer numbers that Conan couldn’t. I can’t blame Leno for taking a job offered to him that he didn’t want to give up in the first place. The comedy community unfairly bashes him to this day for that nonsense.",
"Begins with \"you freaks\" ends with hate-shaming. Made me lol, thank you.",
"What would you call people who drive around in Michigan with giant confederate flags and other insane regalia? Normal? Lol. I think freaks is putting it nicely.",
"Haha you dumb fuck",
"Ah the good ol days",
"Jesus. Can you get his balls in there too?",
"Slip in a water pal. The world isn't changing back anytime soon and you're gon a spend your literal entire life angry about progress. You're the only one losing.",
"Intellectually he's good, but that pervert creep shit got old since it started. Fallon, Kimmel and Conan have their own strengths/personalities anyways, and each brought out different things even from the same guests.\n\nGraham Norton is the king though. Way less scripted and adult topics are actually ok to talk about lmfao.",
"That’s not exactly why I call Leno a loser. \n\nI’ve never found a single “joke” of his funny. I just fail to see any entertainment value in his work. I understand he is popular with his large fan base. But I can’t stand him. His popularity seems to be based on pandering and appealingly to the lowest common denominator. I find his “humor” boring and unoriginal, and his general style/personality grating. I can’t help but think he’s so popular simply because he’s on TV and surrounded by a talented production staff. I don’t understand how he took over for Carson when he lacks charisma or charm. I’ve watched his standup, his late night monologues, and some of his other work. I’ve revisited his show many times I’ve the years. I gave him second and third and fourth and fifth chances over the span of years and decades. He’s never made me laugh.\n\nI think it says a lot that other comedians don’t like him. Carson didn’t mention him or have him on at his final episode of The Tonight Show in 1992. Hall kept saying that he didn’t know why Leno would tell journalists they were friends when they weren’t. Miller has said they were once friends but would never speak again.\n\nI also think Leno is a loser because he made a weirdly boring car show. I am interested in cars. I’ve heard for years that Leno is passionate about cars. When he started his car show, I gave it a chance. And a second chance. And a third chance. And I couldn’t stand him. I was honestly confused, because I assumed that (even if I didn’t like his comedy style) it is always interesting to watch people dog into their personal passions. For example I don’t really know anything about dungeons and dragons, by I had a really interesting conversation with a neighbor about DND because it was fun to hear him get fired up about his passion. But Leno’s show about his personal passion for cars was the most uninteresting garbage I’ve ever seen. And keep in mind, *I am personally passionate about cars.* I have a separate alt account for car subreddits. And I’ve never been bored watching a show about cars before. I watch YouTube videos about car detailers vacuuming out Subarus with high interest. My lady has asked me to stop talking about carburetors at romantic restaurants. I don’t understand how Leno made such a boring car show.\n\nBut on the topic of Leno vs Conan, yeah his loser ways were on full display back then too. He’s so out of touch that he asked his viewers [“not to blame Conan.”](https://youtu.be/z-8LGTVF3_I ) Dude, no one was. Everyone was blaming Leno and/or the network for welching on promises.\n\nAs to your point on ratings/number: Jay’s show that came on before Conan’s iteration of the Tonight Show also had low ratings. The network set up a losing formula with their programing. Arguably, Conan’s Tonight Show had low ratings because The Jay Leno Show (that aired right before) made everyone turn off their TV in disgust. A bad opening act (Leno) ruined the rock star’s show (Conan). And honestly, Leno didn’t have high ratings when he first took over The Tonight Show in 1992. But he was afforded time to develop a following, and he didn’t have Carson sabotaging his show with a 30-minute failure right before his timeslot. Conan wasn’t given the same chance that Leno had, and that’s at least 60% Leno’s fault (the remaining 40% was the network’s fault).\n\nTLDR: Conan is and always was better than Leno. And Leno is a loser who made a weirdly boring car show.",
"I have to agree. One side is so maniacal about a politician, and the other can’t stand the dude. Which is more normal in the history of politics? The literal flag waving is pretty bizarre. Hating any politician is as old as time, Trump is just objectively slimier than your run-of-the-mill sleaze ball, so people are louder in their dislike.",
"k.",
"It's mathematically hypocritical, I know you think you're right, maybe you are but the comment you made is beautifully ironic. \n\nI get stuck between feeling bad and hating confederate flag worshipers depending on the day or my diet, I suppose. Baffling that anybody would want to advertise supporting a losing side, but I also am a Vikings fan, so this too, is an ironic statement.",
"k.",
"Would you summarize what you read for me please?",
"> Graham Norton is the king though.\n\nCraig Ferguson would like to have a word.",
"Conan is greet. But Craig Ferguson is the goat.",
"Leno bad, Conan good.",
"I knew she looked familiar! Chandler was an idiot for being an insecure idiot, Kathy was the superior life mate. Monica was a result of proximity and bad writing.",
"Summary: Leno is a loser, no body likes him.",
"And she’s on Community. Took me a Google search.",
"I feel like Conan's response to his show being called polished would be, \"Can you polish a turd?\"\n\nHis podcast '[Conan Needs a Friend](https://www.earwolf.com/show/conan-obrien/)' is excellent too. He doesn't pull the punches on his jokes and reveals a lot of behind the scene moments he's shared with guests on Late Night.",
"Craig is great. My opinion is still right hahaha",
"She also stars frequently in my dreams",
"Yeah in this setting you can really see what a genius Conan is. How many people can riff and improv like that in such a natural way? Craig Ferguson is my other favorite late night host because he could do the same and they both have made me laugh so hard on so many occasions.",
"The time Conan kissed Rebecca Romijn was one of the funniest moments ever on his show. It was terrifying for her I’m sure - but his reaction was hilarious.",
"This clip is also peak Conan era, I don't know about how polished he was but Conan knew he was taking over the Tonight Show at this point was was firing on all cylinders in the years leading up to it.",
"It fucking baffles me why \"supposedly\" everyone didn't connect with his charm and he ended up getting screwed over. How could you not enjoy him? Ack. Shame.",
"You are so dumb...I'm sorry, I'm so sorry but you're so stupid.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/PngPQluO1jI\n\nNever knew she was an established star from Criminal Minds. This is probably my favorite scene in the show and I love me some Troy and Abed in the Morning.",
"Oh damn. I forgot about Ferguson. He was way under appreciated.",
"And that creepy letterman",
"The way Conan tearfully asked during the final show for everyone not to be cynical about that whole affair still sticks with me to this day as an example of class and graciousness. That said, was/am I still cynical about the whole thing? You bet your fuckin' ass.",
"I love Conan. This was great.",
"\"No, why would I? That's moon man talk.\"\n\nHah",
"So tldr he's not funny to you, not a loser",
"Her deadpan delivery makes the sixth season and acts as the perfect highlighter for the cast of characters.\n\nYou built a bar on the campus. There was lumber involved.",
"And Frankie on Community S6",
"Graham Norton would beg to differ.",
"less polished? he had been on air nearly 15 years at this point. this isn't less polished, this is the show. this is the style and vibe he had.",
"Craig and Geoff, the ultimate late late night duo.",
"Or rather lots of people like him, but they’re dumb.",
"Creepy how? Oh god, what did I miss?",
"Her [speech on hope](https://youtu.be/wvpU_v0fhAo) was my personal favorite",
"The follow up next episode is just as good..\n\nConan finds the fire safety guy the next episode to confront him lol:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnLA7gSrULc",
"Ha HA",
"I was about to say she looks just like Frankie on Community",
"Chandler and Kathy had a fight and she immediately went and slept with someone else. I wouldn’t call that a superior life mate.",
"She thought they were on a break.",
"Geoff had me rolling. He was built by the late Grant Imahara. Rip buddy.",
"She’s really good at steel drums.",
"I find Fallon unbearable to watch because of its polish. Everything is so overproduced, overrehearsed and the laughter fake I just can't watch it.",
"Conan on Late Night was peak Conan. I hate to say it but once he moved up to the tonight show and his own show after, it lost its essence. Conan's podcast for me is the next best thing after Late Night\n\nJust seems like he had more freedom to be himself, I know having his own show on tbs means he probably had far fewer people giving him notes, but I just mean having a smaller audience allowed him to goof off a bit more",
"A snowflake in the wild",
"Yeah she does look like Frankie but she actually played the IT lady in season 5.",
"I was in college during late-90's Conan, and to me that was when he was at his best. The set looked like it was built in his basement, and his show had the freedom to be off-the-wall and they came up with some truly bizarre bits. Masturbating Bear, Pimpbot-5000, Satellite TV, Andy's little sister (Amy Poehler), Secrets... Man, those were good times.",
"Chang I asumme hears screaming babies, you know he's unstable?",
"She is adorable.",
"I almost got whooshed there. She played both characters lol",
"Oh it's humble outsider who came in and nailed it.",
"😁😁",
"Craig Ferguson Robin Williams interviews are a must watch.",
"People like me are part of the problem. Every time I saw a clip, I was reminded how funny he is… but I never actually watched the show.",
"She was also Jessica on Andy Richter Controls the Universe... with Andy Richter.",
"Her best role is still Sadie Doyle on Beyond Belief.",
"Yeah that cumshoe one is now added to my list.",
"Exactly. Him reacting to the announcement tone is funnier than 80% of the pre-written bits on his show(s).",
"That’s called a Ross move",
"And when Frankie emails the IT lady, she gets an error",
"I honestly was probably on my phone like an idiot and missed the joke, because I just assumed she got promoted from IT to her next position",
"Rachel Green who? Kathy is the hottest female on friends by far, and till this day I dont really know what it is about her apart from her beauty.. but she's got it.",
"My impression of Leno has always been that he's a really nice guy who works incredibly hard. And he's incredibly funny **but** killed his edge for mass appeal. And the only reason people hate him is because he got the job everyone wants.\n\nCarson and Letterman had reputations for being a bit of a dick off-camera. Johnny was known for not-so-secretly passing judgement on guest performers, especially comics. If he liked it he would greet them after the performance. If not he ignored them and they would have to leave via the other side. Jay actively changed that and set the trend for late night. O'Brien, Kimmel and Fallon are all known for being incredibly nice to everyone. Leno doesn't get credit for their actions but he notably changed the tone of the industry.\n\nLeno also performed 5 shows a week, very rarely taking off, and did small live gigs on the weekends. He even did mini-monologues during the Olympics when NBC didn't schedule a full show. Again, this is a big change from Carson who was out so much that Leno became famous for being one of the guest hosts.\n\nWhen I look at Leno's old appearances, including on Letterman's late night show, I can see why he was a huge hit. And although I haven't seen him lately, I hear he's killing audiences now. But I got tired of his Tonight Show monologues also. (To be fair, none of the late night hosts appealed to me after a point.) I think it's because part of having the job is casting a wide net for a huge audience. Even if that means the jokes are stale.\n\nSo when it comes to *The Tonight Show*, he wanted the job, was good at the job, was pushed out before he wanted to go, and accepted an alternative job. And for that we should label him a \"loser\" just because you or I didn't care for the jokes? I don't think that's how it works.\n\nThe excuse from Conan fans was \"Jay had a year, give Conan time.\" Well, Jay didn't push out someone who wanted to keep the job. If your coworker quits and you step in, you get some slack. If you get them fired so you can take their job, you don't also get to be worse at it. Especially if part of your pitch for taking the job was your years of experience and an audience expected to transfer right over.\n\nAlso, Conan's ratings dropped during his tenure. He came in big with a lot of fanfare then people *stopped* watching. That's not evidence of building an audience. \n\nNow putting Leno at 10 was also a mistake. It's just not what audiences want for the time slot. But as I recall, he still pulled bigger audiences there than Conan did at 11:30. Maybe some of the older audience took that as a cue to go to bed earlier. But it doesn't explain why Conan wasn't getting people switching over to him. Isn't that the point of a host? To get new viewers, not just inherit ones who can't find the remote?\n\nI think Conan was always niche humor. And that's OK. Probably better for people who like that niche. But it doesn't mean he's right for every comedy gig. I just don't think he was ever the guy who inherit the monologue-heavy *Tonight Show*.",
"Also Elroy was the narrator of the Troy v Abed pillow fort vs blanketown documentary",
"Balls.",
"What did you miss? Most of the episodes of his show with a female guest I guess",
"... did you mean to type Gumshoe?",
"Yeah, hate on one side begets counter-hate on the other. We need to actively remove ourselves from the cycle.\n\nCGPGrey's excellent video on the subject. https://youtu.be/rE3j\\_RHkqJc",
"In the year Two Thouuusaaaaaannnd!!",
"He had a shitload of \"affairs\" with employees that worked on his show. \n\nHe also was often immensely creepy towards female guests, and insistent on talking about shit that made them uncomfortable to talk about.",
"Inside the NBA with Shaq, Chuck, Kenny, and Ernie is the best sports talk show cause of how unpolished it is. It just makes it feel more human, more real, when it isn't overtly refined, makes all the people involved seem more relatable like you could be having this conversation in your living room.",
"I think humor is really, really generational. And the generation that likes Conan watched a lot less traditional TV than older ones. If the famous \"18-35 demographic\" had all been willing to pay hundreds per month for cable like the networks wanted then things would have been different. I don't know anyone over 50 who likes him, though. And they had an outsize influence on what networks did back then, before they moved their content online and adapted.",
"and voiced/controlled by Josh Robert Thompson",
"Their chemistry is adorable! She's really quick on the uptake.",
"Agreed!\n\n[All Five Appearances of Robin Williams on *The Craig Ferguson Show*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GsPoTRd4C4)",
"I tried when I could. It was on too late during the week for me.",
"They're straight-up dropping F-bombs on Graham's show now. It just makes the whole interview thing much more real, IMO.",
"And the IT lady in Season 4.",
"Looking forward to vintage Conan along with a new and evolved Conan when he joins HBO",
"Those are the best.\n\nI love how much f[un those are.](https://youtu.be/DYaDhQLLrk8)",
"And you can see how good Conan is on his remotes where there is a lot more improv.",
"He said what his heart wanted.",
"Wrong. That's her twin sister. She had a mental breakdown.",
"Crazy to see where the guy who invented podcasts came from",
"That was one of the best throwaway lines in the entire run of that show... \"I've been trying to reach her, but my emails get bounced back to me in Aramaic, and when I call her, I hear an undulating high pitched whistle that makes my nose bleed.\" :)",
"She's super talented and highly underrated - she has the comedy chops, the drama chops, and the looks. Dunno why she isn't a bigger star.\n\nLove how she let her hair go natural (grey). She looks amazing!",
"I forgot about the staring contests! Good times.",
"Hey remember when late night shows weren't just about obsessing over Trump, pushing political opinions, and sucking corporate advertiser wiener?",
"I always thought she was Sean Young from that Pet Detective movie. Very similar looking but I had my timelines wrong.",
"Similarly, when he lost the Tonight Show, that last run of episodes where he just let the bitter \"what are they going to do, fire me???\" humor flow was just priceless.",
"Don't let your dreams be dreams.",
"Lol, she got him good with that fake Shivas!",
"I forgot about all of those!!",
"You're dreams are of fame and fortune. They'll take years of hard work and blind luck. His dreams can come true today if he is brave enough.",
"\"All my emails get bounced back to me in Aramaic, and when I call I just hear a high-pitched tone that makes my nose bleed.\"",
"I was in HS myself. My friends and I would stay up and write our class papers either after the sketches or after watching the whole episodes, especially during sketch/skit-heavy nights. Lots of all-nighters that I wouldn’t trade for the world. Much better than a perfect attendance record. Being a Conan writer at that time was definitely a dream job for me and my friends.",
"What? It’s called acting. He hypes up his persona for the camera and always does tons of random skits and weird characters out of nowhere.",
"She was a smokeshow. She still looks great, but she was smoking hot and very underrated.",
"Very similar to Craig Ferguson. He was great as he didn't care what the suits thought",
"Walker Texas ranger lever.",
"Than man in the corner of the screen.",
"The 3rd best phone joke in that show, imo.\n\n[Best Phone Joke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFGCOoIdwP4)\n\n[Second Best](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3vVe4ZR-Bc)",
"Ah, just took your first period high-school psychology class, yeah?",
"Less polished? \n\nI prefer terms like \"less watered down\" or \"less dumbed down\" or \"more edgy\" or \"more fun\".",
"My wife and I discovered Ferguson about 6 months before he stopped the show, we were devastated.",
"Who asked",
"Thats a lot of assumptions about a person you've never met.",
"\"Chimichanga\"\n\nThe vocal contortions she makes with that accent are just incredible.",
"I feel like nowadays traditional late night talk shows are dying medium. With all the other options people aren't tuning in for the monologs live anymore, and they are so topical they have a shelf life of that day pretty much. Also shows like Graham or YouTube channels like Hot Ones provide better celebrity interviews. So outside of watching YouTube clips/highlights how many of us actually sit down to watch them anymore?",
"Damn and now I am disappointed.",
"Plus it was CBS. It was rare my TV ended up there if ever. Even the Saturday morning cartoons sucked on CBS or they seemed to.",
"Hey, it's Sadie Doyle! She's sees ghosts, darling.",
"The cocaine werewolf Aldso the old time racist jingle singer",
"Hotter than Christina Applegate, Reese Witherspoon, Aisha Tyler, Melissa George, Denise Richards, Krista Allen, Winona Ryder, Selma Blair, Sasha Alexander, Brooke Shields, Rebecca Romijn, Samantha Smith, and Ivana Milicevic? Just to name a few of the actresses that showed up on Friends.",
"I think Podcasts \"talk shows\" took off because they spend more than 60 seconds talking to the guest.",
"This was at the end of late night. the show wasn’t unpolished",
"Artie Kendall sang a buncha songs \nEvery one of them equally long \nWith a tune always the same \nHe crooned with while lacking shame \nAs every verse he sang was morally wrong \nMorally moo!",
"Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Paget Brewster. I first saw her on Criminal Minds, but I've enjoyed all her comedic parts way better. Whether on Key & Peele or on American Dad or Community. She's a super funny lady.",
"Is she Jordana's sister?",
"🤷🏼♂️ yeah but he’s not playing a roll other than himself. What’s the differnece between how he acts and Fallon or the rest? Their personalities, the way they are. Whatever, i will be proved right eventually.",
">\tThe time Conan kissed Rebecca Romijn\n\nhttps://youtu.be/rfZxX7prmW4",
"Hosting a show like this is incredibly difficult. You're expected to carry the conversation, be funny, keep the pacing on point, and throw to clips as needed while also actually trying to listen to your guest. You're not looking at a drug addict, you're looking at a damn good late night host.",
"The crappy show was the best show",
"I saw the Work Juice Players panel during NYCC a few years back. First off, for the sheer talent at that panel it was way too sparsely attended. They finished the panel with Paget reading a list of safari animals as Sadie. \"Rock Monster \" might have been the best addition.",
"\"Robin you're very hairy\"\n\nAbsolute legend of an interviewer. Oh god I miss his show.",
"The Chuck Norris level was a brilliant idea",
"I also loved the fake ads",
"I remember when Paget was on Andy Richter's show. She's a funny lady",
"I only knew her as That One Woman From Criminal Minds, a show I avoid like the plague, and I was so surprised when she came onto Community which is *such* a different genre. As a newcomer, she knocked it out of the park (heh), and she’s quickly become one of my favorite comedic actresses. I also love her distinctive voice and I was so happy when she was cast as Della Duck on Ducktales.",
"I think they're both brilliant in their own ways and approached the late night format differently. \n\nConan had a large personality and wanted to inject silliness into a stale late night format, while still ultimately working within it. His remotes were the best example of this IMO.\n\nCraig chose to almost completely strip the late night format from his show, to pull back the curtain on it. See what he could tease out of a bare bones approach. And eventually settled on a somewhat new format of his own. (But always within the bounds of \"late night\" in order to appease CBS.)\n\nI think if I had to choose, I'd go with Craigy Ferg, but both of them contributed so much to late night and to comedy.",
"I regret never seeing this show. That was so feckin funny.",
"Conan was (no is!) great. I enjoyed how he rolled with the punches you could say. Still [missing Conan](https://youtu.be/T2pyt18vxgY) though.",
"And Conan guest starred in that show a few times! \n\nTo anyone who liked Paget Brewster on Community, it's well worth tracking down a dvd set of Andy Richter Controls the Universe, I can't recommend it enough. I laughed so hard I had an asthma attack.",
"Haha, yeah that was recent. I’m watching his shit now, what i said checks out. Must have ADHD.",
"Correct",
"Never said drug addict, probably approval, fame, feeling funny, maybe sex? (Idk, just the vibe im getting) Is his drug of choice. Idk im just comparing his behavior to every other late night host and it seems a little amped. Probably why they removed hin from the tonight show, i don’t think he did well with older folks but Leno did.",
"God that duncan bit is perhaps the absolute best single actor bit to have ever graced television.",
"Wow I knew she played the IT lady but I never connected that joke. That's so great. I have watched community through so many times and am still finding things that surprise me. What a fantastic show even in the last seasons.",
"Saying that would have gotten you downvoted so hard on reddit a few years ago. I speak from experience. You needed to acknowledge that Conan was God's gift to mankind. Anything else was heresy",
"Now do the high pitched one.",
"And what about her? She’s a hoot!",
"Why aren't there more shows like this? Wasn't the whole damn point of streaming and cable etc to be able to create and show programs that you couldn't air on over the air tv?\n\nEverything is so damn mainstream and boring. I miss crazy things like this and Craig Ferguson.",
"Def a rewatch with the captions on show to catch future jokes and references, ie When Britta hears Robocop and thinks it is Rowboat Cop",
"I agree the pervert creep stuff wasn't funny and Letterman wasn't even doing it as a joke, he straight up fondled the guests sometimes.\n\nI like Graham Norton, too, though I think it's scripted more than would be apparent by watching it. He doesn't do as many skits though and doesn't have a monologue so it all flows smoother giving it a less scripted appearance.",
"You're in what's basically a Conan appreciation thread so you're getting downvoted, but I think Graham is one of the best talk show hosts there is. The thing about Graham Norton's show is that he lets the guests really take over and shine. Even Conan, who has talked about it and is aware of it to some level, can't help but interrupt and make the show about him, but Graham will go for minutes at a time without saying a single word and just let his guests be entertaining and funny.",
"This screw-around, “unprofessional”, don’t care attitude on a talk show is part of the reason why late night Conan and Craig Ferguson were amazing and genuinely funny.",
"^In ^the ^year ^Two ^ThousAAAAAAND!",
"Ahem... ^In ^the ^year ^Two ^Thouuusaaaaaannnd!!!!",
"Paget is hilarious. I did a couple of days on Another Period and even when the camera wasn't rolling she kept everyone in stitches.",
"I've never seen her in anything other than Criminal Minds so all I see is her character Emily Prentiss doing this and I'm dead",
"Conan is GOAT",
"Masturbating Bear was so funny.",
"It was more acceptable to be creepy back then, apparently.",
"balls",
"Preparation H Raymond",
"Don't forget Triumph!",
"Pierre Bernard's Recliner of Rage",
"Well it's also notable that the orange man _was and is_ really bad. I don't get annoyed when comedians say the sky is blue either.",
"Comfortable and furious, Conan.",
"Yep, exactly :) I don't care about downvotes haha, Graham Norton is the best.",
"There, I got you back above the waterline.",
"I too avoid that show like the plague but she is a funny actress. She is part of Thrilling Adventure Hour’s Beyond Belief - Paget and Paul F Tomkins played married mediums Frank & Sadie Doyle. They drink a lot and solve mysteries, we’ll sort of solve them.. it’s really campy and funny. Lots of great guests. I think the podcasts are still available.",
"So fucking obnoxious.",
"She also plays Birdgirl in both the old and new show. Could listen to her all day. Her fluency is wild.",
"I love his remotes!",
"I’d pay to watch a talk show with just Paul Rudd and Conan where they both have levers to interrupt each other. Paul would get a Mac and Me lever while Conan gets his Walker Texas Ranger Lever. Things couldn’t go wrong at all!",
"I'm going out on a limb here but Craig Ferguson killed it for any other talk show host. I enjoyed Conan until there was Craig.",
">Meet Frank and Sadie Doyle. Toast of the upper crust, headliners on the society pages, and, oh yes, they see ghosts!\n\n“Who cares what evils lurk in the hearts of men!”",
"I would watch that show.",
"Watched already so many times, but I will never not click on a Craig Ferguson link.",
"She is a delight.",
"It's my theory that the IT lady is the crazy sister Frankie said she moved to Greendale to take care of.",
"Did any of them cut Chandler's hair? I think not.",
"Duncan never gets redemption.",
"I miss the days when Conan would make out of place sexual comments about every moderately attractive female guest.",
"Although, [these captions](https://i.redd.it/dd92j26v0nvy.jpg) probably really confused deaf people.",
"Funny Conan's sexual fantasy @5:35 involved a bread-making donkey professor when this interview happened a few months prior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hFb0vAwAkM",
"She's also great on her Drunk History appearances. \nEdit: A letter",
"Thanks for the ref, I’ll have to check it out",
"All I was thinking during this video was damn, she looks good.",
"Thats one reason i love craig ferguson, same vibe",
"What year was this recorded?",
"Satellite TV made “not cool Zeus” a phrase among my friends for ages",
"Off the rails Conan is best Conan.",
"That would be wonderful. It would need a 3 hour PPV slot.",
"The interrupter",
"Pimpbot-5000 was my absolute favorite! The costume was so poorly done and it was such a cliche, but that made it the best!",
"Man this hits for me. Conan was my introduction into night talk shows when he used to come on after Jay Leno. \n\nCriminal Minds was also my mom's favorite show to just watch back to back. I developed a huge crush for Paget Brewster in my early teen years after watching so many episodes of Criminal Minds with my mom. I remember seeing this and thinking how cool it was that her personality was nothing like what it was in the show.",
"Haha yes",
"In the year 2000 mike Tyson will be broke because he bet it all he wouldn't go crazy",
"[I knew her from *Huff*, a fantastic show that featured her, Hank Azaria, Oliver Platt, Blythe Danner, and a young Anton Yelchin.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huff_(TV_series\\)) Then Community, totally skipped Criminal Minds, but made me super stoked knowing she'd been working since Huff.\n\nWish Huff was better remembered.",
"I want a show with Conan, Paget Brewster, and Timothy Olyphant. I don't care what they do, I just need to see those three together on a regular basis.",
"^^in ^^the ^^^year ^^Two ^^Thooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusaaand...",
"You are forgetting [the best one](https://youtu.be/IevVJq-iNfM), and [the after credits payoff](https://youtu.be/patEl5GN14k)",
"His episode with Timothy Olyphant is insanely funny. Those two have some of the best comedy chemistry i've ever seen.",
"In The Year 2000, (guest starring Drew Carey)\n\nThis won’t be your grandfathers Price Is Right when I introduce a new game: \n\n2 in the Plinko and 1 in the Stinko!",
"She was also a main cast member on Andy Richter Controls the Universe",
"Did they kiss on the lips? And if so: was it intentional or not?",
"*Criminal Minds* is in syndication. She’s doing all right.",
"“Walker told me I have AIDS.”",
">Dunno why she isn't a bigger star.\n\nIt's not who you know in Hollywood, it's *who you blow.*",
"If you've never heard the podcast The Thrilling Adventure Hour, you should check it out. It's a radio show style program, and she is one of the main characters in one of the main shows, \"Beyond Belief.\" She and Paul F Tompkins play Frank and Sadie Doyle. Toast of the upper crust, headliners on the society pages, and oh, yes... they see ghosts!\n\nThey are both outstanding and a joy to listen to.",
"Dude probably had a full body orgasm for the first time in his life in that moment.",
"Unless evil's carrying the martini tray, darling...",
"*clink*",
"> As a newcomer, she knocked it out of the park (heh)\n\nI have no idea what this joke/reference is and now I feel dumb. Would you mind explaining?",
"And that vibe is something un-polished",
"I have always had a thing for Paget Brewster.",
"Op’s title is when Conan’s show was a little less polished, hinting that it somehow became more polished. Which it didn’t/hasn’t. This is the style. If you want to call the style unpolished fine but by saying it’s less polished is incorrect.",
"“Anglerfish, pooh on you. You are Pinocchios mixed with Ruldolphs who use your nose powers for evil.”\n\nIt would have been great to see them live.",
"She was a great sport on this segment, too. I love Paget.",
"I'd marry her.",
"Craig Ferguson was the GOAT of IDGAF talk shows. His interviews were just shooting the shit. Look up his Robin Williams interviews. Absolute gold!",
"I always loved Driving the Desk.",
"I agree! His podcast Conan needs a friend is a masterpiece of current times of his work. I love listening to every episode.",
"Boy…that Paget Brewster was really easy on the eyes, and still is! Good for her.",
"Have none of you guys seen Friends? It is/was one of the biggest shows in the world and she was in 6 episodes.",
"I was in HS in the late 90’s and went to a taping with friends. Over 20 years later the most atomic high five I’ve ever gotten was from La Bamba that day.",
"I mean I get you’re joking but do you really gotta do Scott Aukerman like that? Comedy Bang! Bang! started a decade earlier and the company Aukerman founded (Earwolf) produces Conan’s podcast. Both podcasts are great though!",
"'As a humble outside who came in and nailed it'",
"I was never into friends I’ve seen maybe 1 or 2 episodes total. I knew she was in it but never watched it",
"Maybe hes trying to reference a line she has in the community series finale. \"As a humble outsider who came in and nailed it,\"",
"Besides being less scripted, it really helps Graham that his show is longer, plus the multiple guests can talk to each other as well.",
"Not really a phone joke I guess but I do love the payoff to the brick joke when Troy uses it as a phone. \"60 dollars?!\" *holds brick up to ear* \"Hello, Rich people? Troy is joining you. Yes, I'll hold.\"",
"Impo, best end tag in the whole series.",
"5",
"She was one of my favorite hosts on Drunk History. She and Derek Waters had chemistry",
"With Graham Norton I think they have a few kinda set checkpoints of stories or a product plug to set up but they definitely let them talk and improv.\n\nAlso they provide alcohol let the celebs get drunk before it. I know I’ve seen a couple of people say they got too drunk and told stories they probably shouldn’t have",
"and her legs are very polished",
"Well that, and copious amounts of alcohol before and during.",
"Her name should be more known though imo. Her roles in CM and Community show she can be a serious actress but can also hold her own in comedic settings.",
"She's also appeared on *Drunk History* at least 2-3 times and was hilarious.",
"Doin your mom.",
"Beautiful how do you get so high?",
"100% agree. That affected New England socialite in another actor’s mouth could sound snobby but hers is really warm. I think the writing also helps. Great clip.",
"Man I remember the new years eve 1999/2000 show where Conan dramatically threw his script in the river and said he was going to improv the show, then changed his mind and dived into the river to retrieve it.\n\nCan't believe 2007 is considered \"back in the day\" now",
"Back when you could watch late nights and laugh",
"Isn't this a joke that comes from Scott on CBB? He's been making jokes about Conan's podcast popularity regularly",
"Fair point, lol!",
"You are my hero for that.",
"and a bunch of Drunk Histories and Another Period as Dodo Bellacourt",
"It's criminal that more people haven't seen Huff. She was fantastic in it and an absolute smoke show.",
"Lover her in this and her Drunk History stints",
"Mom on mom. \n\n*nice*",
"Weird because the cast is right in my wheel-house. Can it be streamed?",
"A favorite memory of mine was during this time. the first time I dropped acid and we were watching Conan and during the episode he and Andy did a segment in front of a green screen where they “grew larger” and walked over people. Sometime in the spring of 96 and I just remember laughing hysterically at how absurd it was while at the same time thinking that they really did it. Early Conan was something else.",
"Chutiya.",
"Conan gets the boy scout uniform.",
"Craig Ferguson should really be a part of this conversation.",
"That must have been Deanvastating to hear.",
"I was wrong. They’re distant cousins.",
"Thanks. Ignore the rude idiot.",
"Lol, I did. Amazing how they could have just been helpful but instead had to be a jerk about it. Oh well.",
"Birdgirl!!",
"I've watched Friends and Community a lot of times and never made the connection.",
"god he’s so good. she’s so good!",
"The best was La Bamba struggling not to laugh while singing right after a punchline- usually one of Andy’s ‘cause his were the crudest.",
"Woahhh didn't make the connection till you said that. I think the different length hair threw me off.",
"Tim gets the ladies underwear.",
"Chutiya.",
"This is Reddit. There can be only one! But I agree.",
"[Tomari the Ostrich attacking Mickey Rooney](https://youtu.be/q2nC_fUPl-w)",
"That man has amazing hats.",
"He didn't get the A list guest's but he made the show work better than any show with A list guests.",
"I used to watch Conan every night, was the only late-nigbt show I've ever liked. His string dance, the often manic interviews. It felt way more real than what the other hosta were doing.",
"Fire alarm designer checking in. \n\n\nWow, it frustrates me that they had zero intention of evacuating.",
"This was GOLD",
"No buuulllshit! Lmao",
"She looks like Sean Young.",
"I’m trying to imagine the alternative universe where NBC didn’t kill the Tonight Show with Conan.",
"\"Ballpark Franks no longer plump when you cook em', instead they moan when you suck em\"",
"Conan without borders is a gift from god",
"The Cowboy Bebop one spoke directly to my soul.",
"I just am enjoying seeing Paget Brewsters gorgeous gams.",
"She was also in [Grandfathered](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4465368/) a few years back with John Stamos.",
"[Paget Brewster on Conan the next time](https://youtu.be/b-734wQXGWw)",
"Where Norm",
"If she is getting residuals.",
"Her appearances on Friends were 23 years ago and 6 episodes out of 236 is a pretty small chunk. It seems reasonable that people wouldn't immediately associate her with that show.",
"Yeah, true. The alcohol can be a double edged sword. More than one guest has gotten absolutely plastered. It's not bad if it's a funny drunk, but sometimes it's just obnoxious.",
"Some of the celebs go well past drunk. The Mark Wahlberg appearance is infamous.",
"Awkward silences, Geoff the robot skeleton, the jay leno fly, “CBS cares”… there was a guy who never treated an episode seriously, and it was just excellent.",
"I'm falling in love with her. She looks amazing here and her personality is even better.",
"You’re being tribalistic about late night show hosts here man I think that’s a little overkill lol",
"Mission Reddit don’t make random comments about women celebrities appearances impossible difficulty",
"In the year 2000.\n\nThe phrase Stick it Up Where The Sun Don't Shine will lose all meaning\n\nWhen the sun actually shines up our asses!",
"modCheck",
"Holy crap the quality is insane on this.",
"I miss the bearded era. Some people just look great with a beard",
"Paget Brewster is smoking hot.",
"I know a guy...",
"I just looked it up, omg never realized she was Kathy!",
"Seems like she's be a blast to have a drink with.",
"Raymond's here",
"I searched this thread for this answer.\n\nI'm honestly disappointed every time I see her and it's not just her and Paul F Thompkins getting drunk as fuck while fighting ghosts.\n\nHOW IS THIS NOT A NETFLIX SHOW?",
"I was watching 90s Conan while in college too. My favorite segment was the talking mouths:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksHw6ybWJHg",
"They *really* fucked up by not keeping Conan.",
"Paget is a delight - my favorite of her characters is bird girl on Harvey Birdman, Attourney at law",
"Check her out as bird girl on Harvey birdman, Attourney at law",
"I will watch the Craig flirting with guest clips on YouTube for hours. The man is the absolute GOAT. \n\nI like Stephen Colbert, but Craig should be hosting the Late show.",
"I remember this. \nWhen they predicted stuff with one of the band members.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIN THE YEAR TWO THOU-ZUND! IN THE YEAR TWO THOU-ZUND....",
"Frankie makes the sixth season my favorite season",
"Quietly\n\n/* in the year two thousanddddd */",
"Watching the second clip, I never realized Geoff didn't shown up till 2010. My goodness I miss that show. \n\nBalls!.",
"Exactly. NYC Conan was the best night show out of all them.",
"I first saw Paget Brewster on Andy’s Fox show he had when he left Conan, she’s always been super funny and a stone cold fox, I think she ended up on Criminal Minds? Something like that",
"Don King was the best. \n\nCONAN O'BRIEN\nMY WHISKY-CHUGGING, POTATO-SACK-LUGGING, LEPRECHAUN HUGGING AMIGO...",
"What struck me was the no sidekick. I don't like that trend and this shows that you don't need a third person sitting on stage to have an entertaining segment",
"Nah",
"awesome",
"Thank you for righting this wrong. That was a close one.",
"So Paget only gets to answer the phone?",
"Oh my God! This is the best thing since sliced bread! Seriously though, that was hilarious from start to finish!",
"Can it be streamed?",
"Just looked, apparently it's on Crackle right now.",
"Ty",
"Seriously I would commit a felony to have dinner with Conan, Timothy and Bill Hader.",
"I *wildly* misremembered that line",
"According to the Simpson's Audio commentary episode with Conan, he said when his new show started they used all their best material assuming the show would be cancelled.\n\nBut it was a success and Conan and crew already used up all their ideas by then trying to figure out what to do now.",
"You Brittad it",
"I never realized how hot he was as a writer before his show. It’s kind of weird that an unknown writer would take over David Letterman’s slot in the early 90’s, if it weren’t for the fact that he was so highly respected behind-the-scenes. He was asked to write for the Simpsons after he left SNL which was the gold standard of Hollywood comedy writers at the time.",
"In the audio commentaries as well it seemed the writing staff was very grateful for Conan as he would entertain what is normally a dead writer's room thinking of the perfect jokes until 4am. David Cohen I recall said Conan would do stuff like a puppet show to keep the room alive.",
"Paget Brewster has always been such a gorgeous gal. Conan with chaotic energy is the best version of Conan. He's always at his best when he does improv.",
"She also voiced Birdgirl on Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law"
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Back when Conan's show was a little less polished (with Paget Brewster)
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https://youtu.be/uDeIauFTcqY
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/r/videos/comments/rklpkj/seinfeld_kramer_as_a_mentally_challenged_guest_of/
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[
"Life professional tip - if you're going to dunk on something, never bring up the things you actually like. It just opens you up to get completely shit on later. It'll be used as ammunition by your detractors. Follow VNCU - vague, non-committal, uncaring.",
"> I know Seinfeld is about nothing, which is fine, but I thought it would at least have some humor in it other than pointing at everyday things and being like these things happen.\n\nI agree, it should have tried to be more like the shows it influenced 10+ years later",
"yeah, the show is hard to understand out of context, what made it popular was it being the first mainstream diversion from the family sitcom drivel. And then some of the plots were 'edgy' at times. Even shows like Married with Children weren't as unconventional as Seinfeld. \n\nLots of hype, I guess.",
"I mean, it's highly awarded and celebrated by most people. \n\nBut I'm sure there's something to _you're_ hot take. It's everyone else that is wrong.",
"I need to watch Seinfeld from start to end. Ive probably seen 1/3 of it in bits and pieces and its a shame.",
"It's on Netflix!",
"I see Seinfeld, I upvote.",
"It’s the tops",
"I can give you the experience of watching the show and save you a few dozen hours. \n\nPerson A: says something mildly humorous.\n\nPause\n\nPerson B: Points out the humor.\n\nLaugh track",
"VNCU - Did you make this up? I’ve never heard of this before.",
"It quite literally recreated the sitcom as it was understood at the time. There's a lot of shows today that wouldn't exist I'd Seinfeld didn't kick the door down for them.\n\n\nOr at least, Kramer slide through it.",
"i dunno, maybe, idrc.",
"One of the best from the K-Man. This whole ep is killer. Kramer is so endearing.",
"The Velvet Fog ladies and gentlemen.",
"What's this the Big Bang theory recap? Fuck outta here infidel.",
"Kramer is so funny, he generates comedy like some sort of Laugh Factory.",
"Was Mel Tormé in on the joke?",
">Laugh Factory\n\nwooof",
"Pro-tip you can skip a lot of the first 3 seasons. There's some gems in there but it didn't punch like it did until season 4.",
"to me, seasons 2-3 were the best, and it took a nosedive after season 7",
"This is one of those moments that make you realize Seinfeld would have been impossible to produce in modern times.",
"Velvet fog?! What the hells a velvet fog?",
"> and it took a nosedive after season 7\n\nLarry David left after season 7 and left Jerry Seinfeld to do the majority of the showrunning and writing.",
"Mel Torme. The singer in the clip.",
">I know Seinfeld is about nothing\n\n(replying to the deleted comment above you)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nSeinfeld is not a show about nothing. It's about a comedian and his friends living in NYC, it follows their relationships and hijinks while making observations about everyday life. That's what Seinfeld is.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"Jerry!\" was the in show Jerry and George were pitching to NBC, with George pushing that it was \"about nothing!, nothing happens!\". It was actually about a comedian and his friends living in NYC, their relationships and hijinks while making observations about everyday life **and Jerry had a butler**.",
"I think it would be one of those Hulu Originals that gets a pretty decent amount of watch time, but after a few seasons retains only a niche audience due to its humor.",
"It's always sunny goes further than this and it's doing fine",
"I would drape myself in velvet if it was socially acceptable.",
"Just the tops",
"The best part about his breakdown was he could have easily recovered and continued a prosperous career. Instead, he doubled down like 6 times.",
"Heh, that is a Seinfeld line. He didn't know who Mel Torme was.",
"the first season is rough and I'm a Seinfeld addict. That being said, hang in there the writing and acting is so good. Without the internet and cell phones of course the situational comedy doesn't stand up the same way but regardless of that in my opinion the greatest comedy show ever. YMMV",
"[The fact that on Letterman people thought his apology was a joke probably didn’t help his case.](https://youtu.be/IwBoVZh1ruQ)",
"I grew up with Seinfeld, believe me stuff that airs now could never air back then either.\n\nMarried with Children almost got taken down because of 1 mom. Hillary Clinton started a war on video games. PG13 was the new rating in-between PG and R which made the PG side way more strict and R less profitable (means less edgy movies).",
"Currently doing this now with my wife whos never seen it. It’s so good to see it in order, so many things I missed over the years.",
"Mel Torme!.. Great Drummer!…",
"One of the greatest comedy characters and performances of all time.",
"It’s gold Nate! Gold!",
"I love how even the extra on the far left was barely even able to keep it together.",
"Mel Torme fucking ruled",
"Richards went half-retard and that's why its funny. As opposed to that idiot in Simple Jack who just crossed the line.",
"TO YOU!",
"or he could have run for President in 2016 against Trump",
"I hope this is a bot comment because no human should be this tone deaf"
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Seinfeld - Kramer as a mentally challenged guest of honor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuaTnE11dA
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/r/videos/comments/rkmbjf/the_sheer_speed_and_ravage_of_fire_is_incredible/
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[
"Wow that's incredibly scary. Glad that's not my job. These fire fighters have balls of steel.",
"That's how OP's mom described me when I started a fire with my log inside her bush.",
"terrible fire, be careful",
"Ravage can absolutely be used as a noun. It's more commonly seen in its plural form, ravages, but ravage is grammatically correct as well.",
"It seems like in a situation like this the intensity of the fire actually prepares the trees not directly on fire by drying them out and raising their temperature so much that eventually they essentially cross the threshold and burst into flame. Is that correct?",
"Spontaneous combustion",
"A very simple google search says it is both.",
"Well they do call them \"Wild Fires\" for a reason so hot that trees spontaneously burst into flames and explodes at the same time so you can image how hot it has to be for something to simply vaporize.\n\nN. Shadows",
"the fire burns so hot the trees don’t need much “prep” time to heat up or dry out. The fire burns so hot and fast that it just goes up. Very strong fires can also creat stripes of burned and unburned patches of trees and land through a phenomenon called Horizontal Roll Vortices. Fire science is very interesting and I highly recommend googling this stuff and checking out wiki. Lots of cool info out there.",
"The floor is lava is all fun and games until shit gets real",
"Fire heats everything around and not only direct above it, that happens because of radiation (heat transfer by light). So it dosent need to heat the air around it (air is actually a good heat insulator) it will heat everything light \"touch\" it. \n\nYou can have severe burns just by being in light's direct path. You will not feel a \"heatwave\" approching its actually your skin being heated directly by light.\n\nWhen combustible material around it heats above it spontaneous temperature they will also release heat and light, making the fire grow exponentialy in a chain reaction.",
"[This one](https://youtu.be/F2MlI9bVt_U) is my go-to video when you want to see what it's like literally before the fire, and then being in the middle of the fire.",
"Wait, wasn't this about the oil in the eucalyptus trees or similar.. that once it catches fire it just spreads like mad",
"[Yes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvPa_yEEd4E)",
"We call them bushfires. And it's not spontaneous at all, it's how dropbear larvae form a chrysalis.",
"Holy hell, look at the winds generated inside that fire. That's insane.",
"Add to that eucalyptus oil being flammable",
"that is not spontaneous at all... that is the speed of the fire rushing through the eucalyptus oils all over the tree, which are flammable.",
"kek",
"YES I know, been there myself to fight a couple, seen them when and where that happens spontaneous and explosive winds and heat turn them into blow torches mice to see that no one apparent died in that one.\nN.S",
"Heat and wind when high enough can cause them to explode, before that happens they become fast moving wildfires create their own localized weather patterns as well.\nN.S",
"Eucalyptus oil within the trees leaves will ignite in what looks like tiny tiny explosions. In the winds created by the fire itself, these leaves will float on by other trees, hit the heat and burst into flame in mid are. \n\nMakes it look like the flames are just appearing from thin air."
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The sheer speed and ravage of fire is incredible and terrifying at the same time.
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