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https://youtu.be/mosX7L25HV8
/r/videos/comments/rlskes/bas_ruttens_lethal_street_defense/
[ "I follow up, BONG, BONG BONG. Right away after that DANGIDA, DANGIDA, DANG.", "Love this, thanks for sharing.", "How the fuck have I never seen this? \n\nThis is amazing", "A classic returns after far too long. Go watch his commentaries on all his matches.", "Reminder that Bas accidentally bumped Brian Urlacher in a bar and refused Bas’s apology in favor of asking El Guapo himself to step outside", "Who is this guy and can someone just explain why he’s doing this?", "He was a UFC Heavyweight Champion, UFC Hall of Famer, a three-time King of Pancrase world champion, finished his career on a 22 fight unbeaten streak. After that he appeared in television shows, movies, and video games. He also coaches MMA and has authored several instructional materials. (Like this video)", "Thank you! I figured he was just some weird guy doing some meme joke. But I guess he’s legit.", "He’s got an awesome tape of him highlighting how he KOd someone in a pro fight using liver shots and it’s hilarious. Dudes the real deal", "Super legit", "Mac?", "[BANG! ZOOM!](https://youtu.be/LHBJHTKIlQQ)", "I still think he's hilarious but now I know I wouldn't say that to his face. Bang!", "There's an interview with Bas where he says that he made up all that stuff on the spot because they paid him to do the video. He was just looking around the set and thinking of ways to hurt people with the stuff available." ]
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Bas Rutten's Lethal Street Defense
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlt1aw/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rlt1aw/deleted_by_user/
[ "In a word, “delicious”.", "Another one following this? There are dozens of us!", "waiting for the new update", "Leon the Lobster seems to be fine. Mike the mollusk? Just fuck Mike, I guess.", "An update on the crustacean situation", "Watching these videos shows how important it is to cook and eat lobster as close to coming out of the pot as possible as that way the lobster is healthy and dextrous not tired, worn out and suffering from mild muscle degradation.", "I feel like humans are programmed to say this in these threads.", "Just don't give him a nice hot bath...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FhVvNGsJV8&ab_channel=MichaelGibbons", "There sure are!" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/hE35RlI-B_8
/r/videos/comments/rlu5jj/whats_its_really_like_to_check_in_a_low_cost/
[ "Between this and paying subscriptions for unlocking your car...", "If you've flone spirit you'll know", ">flone", "I've flown spirit dozens of times and they've never made me pay a dime to bring a backpack. I usually carry a small plastic shopping bag with a bunch of snacks and shit as well and they've never said a word about that either lol", "I dont understand why people rag on them. Ive flown spirit a handful of times as well and its always saved me 25% or more. If its not worth it then fly a normal airline. Yeah they charge for large bags etc but if you are OK with the rules then its a cheap alternative...\n\nEven if you do pay the fees its going to be a cheaper alternative generally. Math is hard I guess.", "“No no no, sweetie, wearing a seatbelt is mandatory. Providing one isn’t. Let me go ahead and add the “contentious” feeeee”", "you already know because you flone", "I’ll never fly spirit again, fees and poor service don’t go well when trapped on their airplanes for multiple hours. People are crazy enough now with masks on reputable airlines", "It boggles the mind, because that took effort. It's some kind of bot or marketing moron.", "> The Spirit Airlines carry-on baggage allowance is one small personal item; 18 x 14 x 8 inches (45 x 35 x 20 cm). A fee applies to bring an additional, larger item, with dimensions of 22 x 18 x 10 inches (56 x 46 x 25 cm).\n\nIf they really want to (and if the plane is FULL), they can charge you for a backpack that size.", "I’ve never been charged for a backpack (probably hyperbole for this video). But the thing is that people don’t understand what airlines like Spirit really are: they’re simply body movers. They get your body from point A to point B. I flew spirit nearly every month for a year going to different cities for short trips and never had an issue with just me and my backpack. Bring a phone battery pack, load up some entertainment, and you’re good for the flight.", "*flewed" ]
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What's it's really like to check in a low cost airline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA4V-n8Ft3g&ab_channel=HGUTL
/r/videos/comments/rluaya/jack_black_in_a_1982_ad_for_pitfall_on_the_atari/
[ "Jack Black was always Jack Black.", "He was just as tenacious back then!", "Still looks the same😂", "He was so cute. I swear I’ve seen that last girl in something else too.", "I'm surprised this wasn't adapted into a movie.", "Stand on the eyeballs and you won't get eaten", "Activision couldn't win the rights to Jumanji, so Jack jumped ship.\n\nSource: I'm not telling the truth.", "I recognize that old lady from a movie or something and I can't think of it. \n\nHelp pls?", "[Lucille Benson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucille_Benson) was in a lot in the 70's (She did like a movie a year). Also lot's of TV.", "OMG, one of my oldest memories is getting up early to play Pitfall in morning shortly after Christmas... Wow that was almost 40 years ago. I remember seeing this commercial for 4 months before finally getting the game. Enjoy life everyone, it goes by quick!", "We don't deserve the 80s.", "Ah jes Jumanji", "Thanks! I recognize her from Silver Streak. She played the crop duster pilot lol.", "Paul Rudd got his start in a Super Nintendo commercial as well", "I remember there was an address on the instructions where you could send a photo of a score of 10,000 and you would get something in the mail.\n\nI sent a polaroid of a score like 3x that and didn't get shit", "Best Atari game IMO", "That was the last game system I owned, and that may have been one of the last games I bought.", "He also punted a dog off a bridge", "It's a Cosby sweater!", "Designed by Acrivision\"\n\nNow that impressed me a little bit.", "Punk try and ask why ours be better", "It looks like Jack Black was Steve Irwin before Steve Irwin was Steve Irwin.", "That’s how he rolls", "What the fuck? Why is a 13 year old telling me she wants to bone Pitfall Harry? The 80s were different, man.", "He was in Mars Attacks? How do I not remember that?\n\nOh fuck, he was the heavyset army kid, trying to join up and fight. Huh, never noticed that.", "Wouldn't surprise me. Most *successful* big actors, or even medium ones grew up quite well connected and well off. Their parents would pay to have them put into commercials and extras of shows to get them \"exposure\" or \"experience\", which then leads to bigger roles. Not to mention crazy expensive tutoring/personal lessons, private schooling, etc.\n\nSame goes for most singing artists. A lot of them had a *huge* leg up and have been being taught since they were toddlers or so. Not exactly the \"Small town guy/gal\" story most try to push.", "Don't tell me what to do", "Why is ours better?", "He also flew the plane that attacked Kevin Costner and those poor girls on the boat.", "Wat?", "For Activision, I prefer River Raid.\n\nFor best of the 2600, Star Raiders.", "It was really pretty plastic and shallow.\n\nThe music was oversynthed and overproduced.\n\nThe colors gaudy.\n\nHair had about 3 pounds of shit sprayed into it.\n\nThe Me Generation\n\nReagan was president. He borrowed money that we still haven't paid back.\n\nWe were all gonna die in a nuclear war.\n\nAll the 80s nostalgia savors little bits and pieces without factoring in the problems and dark side of that era.", "https://youtu.be/cDfQo1ANeLM", "it's creepin me the fuck out", "Apparently the girl is Tanya Fenmore.", "What is that jingle at the start? Pacman or dig dug or something. I can't remember.", "Pitfall was such a good game.", "Don't forget water world.", "Water world is under rated", "Crikey", "You know girls can express attraction to a man without the implied implication that they want to fuck him right? Might help you avoid a potential legal case in the future", "Young JB is putting out some Karen Allen vibes (gal in Raiders of the lost ark). Maybe they could play relatives with the similar facial bone structure?", "Also that one X-files episode.", "I did not know Walgreens was that old.", "N.... no its not....", "Yea super normal thing to say for a 13 year old. \"Since I met Pitfall Harry, no other man would do\". Typical non-sexual comment.", "And people think customer support sucking in a new age thing lol", "Romantic yes, sexual no.\n\nLearing the difference is gonna help you long term.", "Ha! Fellow old person. That's exactly the movie I looked up to get her name. Saw that movie at least 16 times as it was a double feature with Star Wars in Mexico of all places.", "you got a patch. Source: got a patch", "\"No other man would do\"\n\nThat's *overtly* sexual, no matter how you slice it. It's a crazy thing for a 13 year old to say, and you're a crazy person for arguing it's romantic, not sexual.", "I have a green Pitfall t-shirt from Activision. I get comments on it whenever I wear it. \n\nIt is fading and needs to be washed by hand. I bring it out on special occasions. \n\nI loved that game.", "> The Me Generation\n\nEvery young generation gets called the \"me generation\", people in the 70s were called the \"me generation\" right before the \"me generation\" of the 80s followed by the \"me generation\" of the 90s and onward.\n\nThe music was great. There was an explosion of new genres, creativity. Music videos were fun. Plus there was still a thriving non-radio friendly scene. Concert tickets weren't as fucked so you could actually see bands you liked without as much hassle/cost.\n\nThere's bad to every decade, but why focus on that?", "> Every young generation gets called the \"me generation\", people in the 70s were called the \"me generation\" right before the \"me generation\" of the 80s followed by the \"me generation\" of the 90s and onward.\n\nNope\n\n>The music was great.\n\nThe music was overproduced.\n\n>There was an explosion of new genres\n\nNew wave came out of the 70s. Rap came out of the 70s. I don't know what new genre you're talking about unless it's house music and that in the 80s was a small scene in Chicago and Detroit.\n\n>Concert tickets weren't as fucked so you could actually see bands you liked without as much hassle/cost.\n\nTicketmaster was there in the 80s.\n\n>There's bad to every decade, but why focus on that?\n\nBecause people who weren't around for the 80s worship them like it was the best time in the universe.", "> Nope\n\n[Here's a section of a retrospective of the 70s calling it the \"me decade\" from 1980 (50:21).](https://youtu.be/9nfqcPIr5ro?t=3021)\n\nAlso:\n\n> The term \"Me generation\" has persisted over the decades and is connected to Baby Boomers. Some writers, however, have also named the Millennials, upon becoming of age in the 2010s, as \"The Me Generation\" or \"Generation Me\", while Elspeth Reeve in The Atlantic noted that narcissism is a symptom of youth in most generations.\n\nAs for concert tickets this assessment was by far the average experience.\n\n> In the 1980s, when I desperately wanted concert tickets, I would call whatever telephone number I was instructed to call by a television commercial that was alerting me to the tickets going on sale soon. I would dial over and over again until I didn't get a busy signal. And then I would be placed on hold. I usually lucked out, particularly after the \"redial\" button was invented. The other options were waiting on line at a box office or record store, and mail order. Thanks to a little persistence and patience, I'm pretty sure I got tickets, for face value, every time I wanted them.\n\nThere was an explosion of new genres. I didn't say invention of new genres. While rap/hiphop/r&b/etc was largely invented in the 70s it wasn't until the 80s that it exploded. Same with New Wave.\n\nI don't even know if you believe what you're saying or are just arguing for the sake of arguing. \n\nWere you around in the 80s? It's not worth worshipping (no decade is) but it was a pretty damn good decade to be young in.", "Yes, I was there.\n\nIt was incredibly superficial.\n\nAnd I'm not interested in you coming and saying the same thing in different words again.\n\nSo don't.", "Sorry you had a bad time in the 80s. \n\nPeople who had a GOOD time are clearly nostalgic for those good times. People who missed out on the good times wish they'd been there, like me with the roaring 20s, or swinging 60s, or disco 70s, etc.\n\nEvery era is superficial in certain ways.\n\nIf I reiterate a point it's because I don't think I've explained it well enough for the reader to get." ]
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Jack Black in a 1982 ad for Pitfall on the Atari 2600
https://youtu.be/EotHcLHsAXs
/r/videos/comments/rluo42/living_on_ocean_homes_in_the_future/
[ "...uh...no...", "But what if we did? Like Jason M", "My response was solely taking into account my weak bladder.", "Understand. Did it all of a sudden get warmer?", "No. We can’t live ON the ocean. Houses NEAR the ocean are so expensive that only the wealthy can afford them. How can the middle class afford to live ON the ocean? What kind of horseshit is this?", "Can’t you just pee in the water?", "Ah ha! Solution found!!! Thanks!!", "Too expensive, the logistics of supplying these with goods is a nightmare" ]
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Living on ocean homes in the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWCbAZlcdm0
/r/videos/comments/rlup5a/the_video_that_started_it_all_sorryelon/
[ "Yeeeeeeh space BONKin", "This is Major Bonk to ground control", "Absolutely not my video, just replacing it since it was taken down from r/videos when the uploader was banned and told to give 20 ETH. It was a whole thing." ]
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The video that started it all. #sorryelon
https://youtu.be/hFqjRlTORcc
/r/videos/comments/rlupb6/my_computer_almost_died_trying_to_render_this_but/
[ "That’s so freaking cool", "Sounds good too… is it an original piece?", "Kinda reminds me of a Richard Linklater movie! Super cool" ]
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My computer almost died trying to render this, but I think its a cool effect.
https://youtu.be/ygHW-XqCkwU
/r/videos/comments/rluzqg/this_is_what_saigon_vietnam_was_like_in_the_1950s/
[ "It looks so clean?", "The people of Vietnam are very clean. I live near Little Saigon in the US and it's always clean.", "Very impressive!" ]
3
videos
This is what Saigon Vietnam was like in the 1950s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8yPap-k_s&ab_channel=ThoseLilRabbits
/r/videos/comments/rlvgfc/still_one_of_my_favourite_og_youtube_videos/
[ "This is straight gold. I can’t believe I haven’t seen this before. Makes me wonder what other classic YT videos are out there that I missed.", "If only kids today would be reading", "Pebrije farm membrrs" ]
3
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Still one of my favourite OG Youtube videos
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlvkfg/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rlvkfg/deleted_by_user/
[ "This is pathetic. Not funny. Donkeys laughing at their own garbage.", "I've never seen the actual show. But the clips on Instagram are fantastic.", "something something fun at parties" ]
3
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/cmBq41nVrXs
/r/videos/comments/rlwzrv/cabin_boy_1994_original_trailer/
[ "These pipes are CLEEAANNN!!!", "Paps, you’ve been the drunken abusive grandfather I’ve never had.", "Underrated masterpiece.", "And a few years later he settled Schitt's Creek with his sister and wife.", "What a handsome boy. He should go to modeling school.", "Cleeeeeeannnn!!!! (Golden ray of light from behind)", "That and Naaaaaaaaaachhhhhhoooooooooo!!!!!!", "Ever see Eagleheart ?", "This is my favorite bad movie, hands down. I love the four old boat guys, I love the tobacco-spitting cupcake, the chocolate milk, the Letterman cameo, the awful acting, the so-obviously-soundstagey feel of the locations, the giant salesman, the strange indeterminate time period (is it the 1700s or 1993? Who the fuck knows!), the totally bananas Andy Richter scenes, the legit special effect that is the abominable snowman, the odd “fancy lad” dialect, the Ricki Lake buried-under-makeup scenes, the Mer-Man … shit, I could go all day. This movie occupies such a weird place in my brain. It’s not good, but it’s so strangely mesmerizing that I return to it year after year. (And I saw this mother fucker in theaters!) It’s so bad, and yet I’ve probably seen it more than movies that I truly love and are masterpieces of cinema. It’s also such an oddity because Chris Elliott’s character is annoying from basically beginning to end. He has an arc, a small one, but there is not much redemption to his shitty personality. And yet I find his all-in attitude on this wacky script so compelling that it’s hard not to cheer him on. He just fucking goes for it, and doesn’t look back. I’m convinced that any bad movie could be turned around if it had someone with Elliott’s commitment and confidence.", "I love the crew of the Filthy Whore. Such a great movie.", "Sharky.", "Film is brilliant", "Wanna buy a monkey?", "I love this movie, but how much coke went into the producers and marketing team convincing themselves that this was sure to be a classic for all ages?", "David Letterman's little part in this movie is hilarious.\n\nThis movie is fairly low budget and it's really stupid but it's also pretty funny.", "\"It's the most amazing journey ever.\"", "Halfsharkalligatorhalfman\n\nYes—you have met the dangerous 20-year-old uncle of Dr. Octagon\nI, myself— Mr. Gerbik: half-shark, half-man, skin like alligator\nCarrying a dead walrus", "Produced by Tim Burton TIL", "Later we'll watch pirated DVDs and get gay married.", "Ahead of its time for sure, Chris Elliott and Adam Resnick got alot of undeserved crap for it.", "I used to love this movie. Explains a lot actually.", "Please tell me there is a podcast or youtube video about how and why this got made.", "Check out the TV series \"Get a Life\"\n\nEdit: Also \"Eagleheart\"", "Legit never heard of this movie but it actually looks somehow kinda good", "\n\nI just don't get it! She seems totally uninterested in me, despite my smothering obsessiveness!", "These pipes are clean!", "That money is starfish !!!", "That entire show is pure genius, one of my favorites.", "I found this to be a good short retrospective of the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9stA\\_X4BkJE", "How weird…. I was pulling up GIFs in msft teams today and saw one from this movie! I think before today the last I ever saw or heard of this movie is when I was 8 years old.", "Talk show connections: Chris Elliott, David Letterman, Andy Richter, and Ricci Lake as the ships figurehead." ]
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Cabin Boy (1994) ORIGINAL TRAILER
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlxapx/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rlxapx/deleted_by_user/
[ "Bazinga!", "\"I'm not making excuses\" as he proceeds to make excuses. lol", "Maybe they just left this thousands of dollars worth of stuffffffff", "Justice Porn right here baby!!! Love it!", "what a fucking shitbag, and there's so many fucking assholes just like him. Guaranteed he thinks he's a good god fearing man.", "admitted to a DUI no less", "it amazes me how whenever a garbage person does something shitty they always have some excuse or sob story. how fucking sad at 60yo you don't know how not to steal other people's shit", "Which is basically him admitting to DUI twice right in front of the cops.", "How much money is this dude making on YouTube that he’s got $300k reward on a $20k skid loader?", "\"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You stole a skip loader from my father. Prepare to die.\"", "I would have told him to shut up when he was talking and made him load the stuff into his own truck to deliver it back.", "Multimillionaire. Probably making $3-$5k per day solely on youtube's ad revenue, more this time of year because more people are buying gifts so ad space is more valuable. That alone is at least a million per year.\n\nIf he's doing any kind of individual video sponsorship, you're looking at $5-$30k a video depending on ad length, whether it's the youtuber themselves reading the ad content, etc. Also, there's things like product placement. Looks like he's got a lot of videos with cars and trucks, so he likely also has some sponsors drop in product placement money for wheels, oil, tools, etc. Not only would they give him those things for free, they would also give him money to put it in the video.\n\nWhen you get to this level of youtuber-ness you also start to see outside brand deals like product advertising on other media or products associated with their name / channel.", "I think we get too excited for retribution and forget what justice is.", "Don't forget that a lot of people are simply well-off without youtube. Plenty of youtubers have used their parents/own money to kickstart their \"youtube career\" as well, seeing that buying views/comments are an easy way to get started and overall quite cheap to do. Hell, just look at any of those shady channels set up for kids, millions of views in just a week.", "Well, At least all of his family and neighbours now know he's a scumbag thief.", "Let's not forget OnlyFans /s", "\"guy catches thief\" \n\n\nNot just any guy, but rather \"Popular youtuber known throughout community collects evidence and works with police to catch thief\"", "Man, what a buzz that would be, to see this unfold and be so well supported.", "How much cash did he give him. I think I heard 15K.\n\nEdit: I was taking about the money he gave the thieve.. and after rewatching it. It seams like the cash was in the tote with the shirts and he counted it and said keep it. I was listening for a number, which he never said and that’s where I miss heard the 15.. and yes I do have bad hearing. Is why I asked.", "That's a great way to have a later day ruined by a pissed off old dude who's been mulling over your \"disrespect\" for days/weeks/months.\n\nUltimately the moment doesn't fucking matter, \"justice\" boners are fleeting, peace of mind is everlasting. \nMaking enemies is a waste of time.", "If he would've been honest I would've considered not pressing charges if it was me but he even made the police get a searchwarrant and only then he confesses and says it was because he had had a drink and pill??? Hell naw, he tried to still get away with it. Poor wife but he didn't deserve the mercy that was given to him.", "Saw the video last night. I was impressed with whistlingdiesel. Stand up guy. He said the wife's tears seeingher husband being arrested made him say keep the $1400 you owe me for damages to cameras and don't steal anymore.", "It would be interesting to hear how the story changes later when he tells his neighbors who are inquiring about the police cars that were there.", "The best way to turn the knife on a thief like this guy is to make him realize he's a bigger POS than he thought he was. The moment he handed back the money, you could see it in his face. That hurts 100x more than loading up the dude's stolen property. His wife clearly runs the show as she was the one that went to get the money from inside the house. A couple that old, that husband cares a lot about how his wife sees him. I'm telling you, he won't be right for awhile.", "\"I thought it was abandoned.\"\n\nThen why spray paint the cameras?", "I think it’s more annoyance because we are used to seeing criminals treated much worse. So it’s more of a “what makes this guy so special when my friend/partner/family member had his life ruined for a much lesser crime?” kind of feeling.", "1400$, 700$ each for the two cams he spray painted.", "$1,400", "It goes both ways. Sometimes getting off easy is a good lesson. Other times, it just makes people double down on their behavior because they think they've found an \"out\" in terms of repercussions.", "What an entitled asshole this guy is\n\nEdit: the thief", "This dude has A LOT of money, idk exacts, but he has multiple >$90k trucks, multiple >$100k performance cars, multiple construction vehicles (bobcat, front loader, etc), tons of recreational vehicles (ATV's, dirt bikes, etc.), a massive farm in Indiana, and he buys a truck/car almost every video ranging from $30-150k and destroys it for fun along with building ridiculous monster trucks and shit. I would guess he's easily pulling >$250k/month.\n\nEdit: location", "His farm is in Indiana. \n\nAgree. He definitely came to YT with money in his pockets. His early videos are of a monster truck that he had before he started the channel. His latest build is absolutely bonkers. He gets a lot of hate because of his schtick, but if you watch some of his videos very carefully, you can tell that it is all an act. I'm willing to bet that behind the scenes he's a \"yes sir\", \"no m'am\", respectful kind of guy. He just knows how to get the views and has the disposable income to wreck expensive stuff.", "Yeah I love that his excuse was \"I took some pain pills and a beer\" \n\nIt wasn't him it was the substances.", "We gotta find this skid!", "This man has vengeance in his heart over that skid loader. I don't doubt he'll keep upping the reward until he gets it back or it's found in a junkyard.", ">I think I heard 15K.\n\nBest get your hearing checked.", "I want to find it for him and then let him keep the reward.", "Exactly. Crush him enough to make him think real hard about it and never do that shit again, but not enough to drive him off the edge into doing something rash. People are complex and even if it’s unlikely to result in retaliation, you don’t want to create enemies who are unpredictable for the sake of getting the last word. Make things right but be forgiving imo.", "Who?", "I don't think your right on the monster truck. It's basically a crappy diesel that he rigged big tires on. I do agree with the act l, I have watched some of his videos and it looks like he knows how ridiculous he sounds.", "white ppl", "Merchandise is were the real money is at. Dude sold plain white t-shirts for $1k each and ran out of inventory on them.", "My issue is the dude clearly didn't have remorse for what he did, he was just upset that he had to deal with the fallout. The part that got me most was when the dude mouthed \"What a day\" as if this was all just happening to him instead of something like \"I'm a real asshole\" like someone would if they were actually reflecting on their actions.\n\nThis guy didn't need any of this stuff, he just stole it for the rush like he admits. Then when he's caught he makes a bunch of excuses that don't square with each other, like were you high on pills and stealing for the thrill, or did you see that stuff and think it was abandoned? \"No excuses! But...\".\n\nIn my opinion the dude needs help and will not get it by getting out of jail free without consequences.", "looked through his YT video history and they're all consistently drawing multi-million views, so he's probably made millions", "In what regard do you disagree? That he came to the game with money in his pockets?\n\n>It's basically a crappy diesel that he rigged big tires on.\n\nYeah, no. The original Monster Max was far from the nicest monster truck build I've seen, but it did use a lot of very expensive parts. He did not simply \"rig tires on\". That implies it had stock axles (it did not) and stock suspension (it did not). \n\nYou can't build a truck like that for less than $150k, and it's not a truck that can do double duty hauling your lawn care rig, so it's not like he was some normie with a little extra cash.", "To me that translated into \"well it was stuff from a multimillionaire youtuber, he's so rich that he probably won't miss it\"", "Class act by WhistlinDiesel", "I'd feel empathy if he wasn't denying it and lying til they had to get a search warrant, wasting everyone's time. If he admitted it right away, and was apologetic, then maybe. Instead, dude was trying to get away with it. I'm not saying burn him at the stake, but this is the type of person who'd do it again if they think they can get away with it.", "dude, for a kid to do that to a grown ass married man is the biggest fucking round house kick in the pride. Man, that smarts and on camera none the less. Ooof. I love it.", "Bro you gotta see the second monster Maxx\n\nHe has the biggest pickup in the world, after destroying his old pickup on the channel all year", "In the city, you'd have to absolutely say you were going inside right then to get the cops to do anything.", "He definitely doesn't break even on a lot of his videos lol. I love his humor though. Just whacking pieces off his monster truck with a hammer to drive it out of a bind.", "This is a small farm town. I am willing to bet that the vast majority of the residents know who both parties are. With the video evidence it really doesn't matter what his story is.", "He was like 20 or 30 videos in before he built monster max. You make is sound like a fully built monster max was in his first videos and it wasn't.", "I’m sorry, huh?", "Yeah, you're right about that. I had a look back through his channel, and Monster Max came later than I thought. The first mention of the build is only about 15 videos in, but he wasn't exactly huge back then. Most of his videos had views in the hundreds of thousands, not >1M like he does now.\n\nI still think he came to YT with money in his pockets though. I'm not trying to take anything away from him. Just stating what I see.", "That's crazy money. Making what some people don't even make in a year off a video sponsorship, imagine cashing that check. Imagine making multiple months of wages in a single day, every day. I mean I watch youtubers sometimes, but thinking these guys are multimillionaires makes it feel weird. It's not envy, I guess I just can't comprehend.", "Yeah he your right he definitely could have came with money. It's kind of interesting to think about the newer YouTube stars. How many of them are being created and bankrolled like a business?", "In ATL it was always needed for their diabetes meds. Was always weird that everyone seemed to need 2 bucks for their diabetes meds.", "#", "I mean, it's definitely easier if you come with a little change in your pocket. Producing videos isn't free, and while you don't need HBO's production budgets, content producers definitely benefit from a little help.", "They’re the YouTube equivalent of a loss leader. Spend $150k on some R32s, blow them up and get a video shared around a bunch and add some new subscribers. Next ten times you post a video that cost under $10k to produce and you now have a wider audience and are able to take home way more views (and ad/sponsor money) than you would have without the $150k video.", "She probably ran to the bank, and there’s a good shot the cops would have not allowed him to leave.", "Except for the justice part? The problem with this video is there were no repercussions for the thief. \n\nThe thief targeted the place, sprayed the cameras, drove in and out with a bunch of stuff. \n\nWhen the cops ask if he was there or took stuff, he lies and denies, blocks to resolution. Only after the search warrant and he has no other option does he start a sob story. \n\n​\n\nI'd wager a sailors pint of rum the old guy feels like he \"got away with it\" after an hour or so. Main reason is because during this debacle he is mentally accepting that he is going to be arrested, go to court, public humiliation, financial cost of lawyers and being guilty. All things he has to trade for the behaviour of stealing, but 2 hours later he has zero repercussions. Almost like if you say sorry and cry you can get away with stealing if they come find it.\n\n​\n\nThe police are shitty here, they should have watched the videos and said, \"there is no way in hell this is this guys first theft\" because of the mask, spray paint, car tags etc. Then encourage the pressing charges because this guy has likely been robbing the nearby areas for ages. Otherwise you leave him to continue robbing. >.< \n\n​\n\n​\n\nFor the YouTuber makes sense, he doesn't press charges because he doesn't have to deal with the legal shit of it but still gets the money from the video =P", "Absolutely. To a certain extent, this guy is now responsible for anything else this criminal steals in the future. 0/10 for the video and the op who is trying to present this in a good light.", "He's a trust funder. \n\nGranDad probably owned 500 acres somewhere, Dad got it and sold 400 of it and made a lot of money, kid now lives off of an insane amount of interest in his trust fund.", " What? Reddit appears to think this guy is a scumbag and wanted the kid to press charges.", "I think I'd have blurred the guy's face too for his wife's sake, after the fact. She's going to suffer from that too.\n\nBut maybe I'm too meek and forgiving idk.", "I think his wife is going to inventory everything in that house and sheds from now on and everything that turns up without receipt is going to cause half a fight.", "That man will never be able to bring anything into the house again, his wife is going to keep him straight for the rest of his life. Won't have any peace of mind to do that again, I bet.", "Yeah the dude literally sold $1,000 plain white t-shirts.\nNot sure how many but I’d assume at least a couple hundred…once you have a following that large the ways to make money are endless", "This isn't justice, it's a privileged old thief being let away with a crime that many others would get no second chances on. It's a fucking disgrace.", "It's that kind of shit that can make their marriage suffer for a long time. Because now the dudes face is on a famous youtube channel and if the cop knew about the youtuber, then you know plenty of people around there do as well.\n\nThat guy is gonna be made fun of for a loooong time", "Pretty much how I felt about this situation. The thief clearly went through significant lengths to conceal his crimes and demonstrated no intention of being honest until the stolen items were recovered. I understand the YouTuber being sympathetic but the thief didn’t deserve the leniency he was given. The thief clearly is just a scum bag and I’m willing to bet the wife knew as well.", "He says it cost 175K a few times. So yeah, far from Monster Max even, which is still pretty far from the trucks you see at a rally, and you definitely have to have to some money to spend it on a toy like that, but either his income from before his youtube channel has kept up, or his youtube channel has combined with or grown so much that he can bankroll even more than that.", "Monster Max wasn't his first \"monster\" truck. The one he took into the water and almost tipped in the flow of the current wasn't Monster Max.", "Monster Max is a different truck than the one he took into the river earlier on and almost lost.", "He's only sorry because he got caught...this is the mentality of most thieves. Don't actually need the money but will to throw someone under the bus for it.", "Whenever you feel like saying something like that when you screwed up, say \"I'm not trying to make an excuse, but I'd like to provide you with an explanation (for the way I acted, what I did, etc.)\"\n\nAnd follow it up with, \"I know that in no way excuses my actions at all, I'm truly sorry (you better actually be sorry.)\" \n\n\nThat being said, his \"explanation\" was total BS anyways.", "I want to find it for him and keep the reward. It seems like he's not hurting for the money, and I am. \n\n\nHe gets his dad's skidloader back that gave him a redneck batman chip on his shoulder and I get $300k.", "I thought there was Monster Max and Monster Max II. Monster Max II being his newest and absolutely insane truck.\n\nThis is the river video from 2020: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un03GlC8xgY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un03GlC8xgY)\n\nAs I understand it, it's the same truck as [Monster Max](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLsDj1UFWEk), just re-built.", "I think the punishment that guy is taking from this public humiliation and the damage it seemed it might do to his marriage, combined with the fact that Whistlin Diesel doesn't need the money or to deal with court proceedings makes this a normal outcome. \n\n\nI don't think that guy will be stealing shit from people's property anymore. \n\n\nI imagine he saw this kid with all of this stuff and maybe even knew about him from youtube a little bit and thought \"piece of shit kid I'm going to show you!\" \n\n\nAnd then the kid shows he's more of an adult than himself, not only in preparation for the theft, but in mercy and understanding.", "Like Whistlin Diesel would have to say he was going to go into the thief's house?", "Yeah and that guy that stole the stuff is a real jerk too!", "This felon should have been charged. Even when he was \"confessing\" he lied. He's the kind of crook that's only sorry in the moment. He's stolen before and he'll steal again.", "Correct. A lot of city/urban police are now on a \"property crime isn't our job\" practice now. But for liability reasons they still have to respond to physical risk and harm calls.", "FYI, 100% wife knew. This thief was a seasoned liar and grifter. She's seen him lie to people a thousands of times. She knows it's not normal for truckloads of equipment to just show up out of nowhere. He's stolen before and bragged about it after \"pills and a beer\". \n\nI get that Mr YouTube earns brownie points for letting them have a pass, but they've undermined other victims past and future. Crooks like this need felony records. \n\nWhen this guy is suspected of drunk driving next month, it helps that he's facing other charges. When he tries this bullshit sob story next year, it helps that past convictions close that escape hatch. \n\nCrooks have a mindset, and getting away with something, by tomorrow he's going to view himself as the victim, and that's he's now owed something.", "Did you see that house and that property my gosh", "Interesting if he would except that excuse from a minority", "\"you can tell that it is all an act\"\n\nHe even has gone through this multiple times in videos talking about fans meeting him.", "Huh I’m probably wrong but I know they even got a new cab and everything for the second truck, so there’s that.", "Hey, I for sure wouldn’t place any bets on it lmao. It’s a Chevy Silverado after all. They made a few of them 🤣", "Not justifying anything ofc but it sounds like he stole the stuff first, not aware of the cameras, and then thought it could paint the cameras after the fact to get away with it. Obviously stupid but I can see his thinking, stupidity amplified by the fact that he was probably nervous after being told there were cameras.", "Yeah I agree rarely do we ever get to see a video were it doesn't cut off where we can see the perpetrator speak or say what they were going through. Even though it could be bullshit that they're spewing I like to hear their response and difficulty when theyre in the hot seat.", "One thing I learned in rehab is that shitty people like to blame their shitty behavior on their substance abuse.", "Cool story, bruh.", "\"I never allow anyone to steal from me!\"\n \n\"Here, keep the $1400 you stole by ruining my property\"\n\nIt's fine because the thief's brain made him do it.", "What am I reading", "maybe he can get more ad rev with that ending", "It's justice compared to him never being caught. The youtuber did it for the views yeah, and the guy got humiliated on the internet. What do you think the justice should have been? Jail time? Fines?", "Some sure, but this guy films on an iphone and has worked for what he has.", "People will always hate those richer than themselves. I can totally see it by the way he acts and type of videos he makes but he's still a nice guy imo.", "It's a completely different truck iirc", "It madend me when that boomer crack head was just standing there flapping his gums leaning on WDs truck while the fuzz loaded the stuff up. I would of slapped his ass if he was leaning on my truck like that after what he made me go through to get my shit back. Hopefully the wife will make the man regret his miserable life for the rest of it for embarrassing her and lying like that. I really want the dude doxxed so everyone knows his name", "Oh yeah. Was not his first time doing that. People will lie as much as they can all the way up to the point they're caught with absolutely no deniability. \nYou see it happen all the time, one of the funniest being that guy who was caught stealing a rotisserie chicken, lied and said he was vegan, so the lady told him to empty his pockets and he had chicken chunks in his pockets with an expression like \"How'd THESE get here?\"", "This makes me angry.", "The thief belongs in jail. The county or the State should press charges against him. I’m sure it is not the ass hole’s first theft and without real punishment it won’t be his last.", "This thief could have taken the skid steer but apparently in North Indiana thieves are not held accountable for crimes." ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlxnl9/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rlxnl9/deleted_by_user/
[ "Spoilers?", "This was my favorite part of the movie. Just Spider-Men shooting the shit. Had a grin from ear to ear the entire time", "spoiler bro some ppl havent watched it yet" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/EVV3xy0ChdA
/r/videos/comments/rlxyeh/this_classic/
[ "I've not seen this before - it's wonderful! The 'haunting' melody really completes the scene.", "An unlisted video on a channel with no public videos. Truly a rare find", "Is that a classic?\n\nNever saw it heard of it. Seemed pretty basic to me." ]
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This classic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_gW1KvuFk
/r/videos/comments/rlysqz/george_carlin_dubbing_thomas_the_tank_engine_vol/
[ "It is so bizarre that they hired him for that show.", "Kind of weird they hired Ringo Starr for the original!", "Talk about nostalgia, Carlin as Mr. Conductor plus the whole crew on Shining Time Station, Schemer, Stacy Jones, the Jukebox Band and more", "Having grown up watching the show it was so bizarre seeing his stand up years later.", "Absolutely. It was the first place I saw George Carlin and it was the first place I saw Ringo Starr.", "His best bit\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c", "I love Carlin but don’t fuck with Thomas the Tank Engine and especially the fat controller!\n\nInadvertently he’s roasting Ringo and he’s the best fat controller ever!" ]
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George Carlin Dubbing Thomas the Tank Engine: Vol 1-7 but it's in episode order. (NOT FOR KIDS)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlyssc/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rlyssc/deleted_by_user/
[ "Someone forgot to take their anti-boomer pills today.\n\nYou see, what you did there was, you took a funny scene from a great show and you *tainted* it. You tainted it with the boomer nonsense in your title. Remember: your boomer tendencies make you want to suck the joy out of things and that is what we call 'a big, silly no-no.'\n\nPlease. Remember to take the pills.", "Oh dear.\n\nOK, this is what we're gonna do, just for today, for right now, I'm gonna authorise a double dose. Take two pills.\n\nHey I'm just ribbin' you friend. Havin' a little fun. You take it easy now and give someone a hug. Happy Holidays.", "you must work at a movie theatre because you are an expert at projection", "You know, you're right: Placing expectations on how someone should sound, act or even what they should BE, based on looks alone IS entirely backwards." ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-c66SJPuUI
/r/videos/comments/rlzr3j/chet_atkins_mr_sandman_tv_1954/
[ "Marty, where are we?", "I love everything about this", "Such a great song.", "I incorrectly read this as Chet Atkins - Enter Sandman. That would be rad to see.", "Godlike", "I'd just about kill for that gorgeous blond L-5 being played by the guy standing behind Chet." ]
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Chet Atkins - Mr. Sandman (TV 1954)
https://youtu.be/M8XLJpuh6Mc
/r/videos/comments/rm0cyd/rowan_atkinson_mr_bean_fatal_beatings_sketch/
[ "Absolute Genius with perfect timing. Giving me some Lady Bracknell vibes :)", "You know, it's a wonder Angus Deayton never got all that famous.", "Less a wonder, more like hookers and blow. Not he deserved it :/", "[Original video without hardcoded Russian subtitles.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppVpdsClN80)", "What?", "Спасибо", "I don’t think you understand what gaslighting is…", "The entire Rowan Atkinson Live video is full of amazing 1 and 2 man skits. I performed “A Warm Welcome” for the school talent night we had and everyone loved it.", "So fucking good. You can call me Toby. The French, are you here? Yes yes, come down here with the Germans. I'm sure you'll have lots to talk about.", "The part about inviting the christians because \"I'm sorry, but the jews were right\" had one of our instructors laughing so hard he almost fell off the stage.\n\nEdit to say that I almost did \"no one called Jones\" but there was no way I'd have been able to hold it together for that one. (also, there were kids in the audience)", "hahahahahaha!" ]
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Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean)- Fatal Beatings sketch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj9pqrcZuk4
/r/videos/comments/rm1k2v/f15_eagles_500_feet_500_knots_4k/
[ "Perhaps they should just slow down a bit. Enjoy the scenery and stop wobbling around as much. Maybe even stop and pull over to say ‘hi’ and chat to the video chappy before carefully flying off again.", "Whereabouts in Wales was this shot? I have vague memories of seeing RAF jaguars pulling similar manoeuvres while on holiday there back in the seventies.", "The Mach Loop\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_Loop#:~:text=The%20Mach%20Loop%20(also%20known,aircraft%20and%20propeller%2Ddriven%20aircraft.", "Went on holiday there in the early 90s... walking high up on a hill and seeing a harrier fly past lower than us.", "that could be way better with a better mic", "I camped somewhere in the northwest of the US once where there were rolling canyons on a lake and saw some fighter jets doing shit like this at low altitude. It's insane and the noise pulses your whole body. Incredible death machines", "Not sure about this but usually snowdonia if you want to see fighter jets", "I like the wave @ 2:36", "[ **Jump to 02:36 @** F15 EAGLES 500 FEET 500 KNOTS (4K)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj9pqrcZuk4&t=0h2m36s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Dafydd Phillips, Video Length: [05:24])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:31](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj9pqrcZuk4&t=0h2m31s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "How come some of these jets have two people inside? What's the second person do?", "Your tax dollars at work, protecting the rabbits of Wales.", "Holy shit this is so cool. This is RAF, yeah? Man I'd love to speak to a fighter jet pilot one day", "Weapons, Navigations, etc.\n\nPlus pilot training.", "If I've said it once I've said it 1000 times this is one of my favorite weapon platforms :-)", "RAF don't fly F15s. These are F15s probably stationed at RAF Lakenheath", "Pardon my ignorance - who is flying these? I just assumed it was the RAF", "USAF", "Thank you!! That's really cool. I live in the Bay Area and have heard and seen USAF jets fly by but wasn't sure what type they were.", "Depends on the aircraft as there's mix of F15 variants in this video\n\nThe F15 D is a 2 seat version of the single seat F15 C. To my knowledge all the D models are used for training while the Frontline aircraft are all single seat Cs. These aircraft are air superiority fighters only with basically no air to ground capability. The back seater will either be an instructor or a student in all likelihood\n\nThe F15 E models,known as strike eagles, are multirole jets and are all 2 seaters. The back seaters are there to ease pilot work load working weapons systems, targeting pods, doing nav,etc. Newer jets the back seater and front seater share many controls, to the point the jet can be flown with just the pilot (contrary to the F14 where they always needed the RIO in the back seat), but rather then omit the WSO they often work on the same tasks in tandem.", "Beautiful! I bet you can feel that rumble in your guts like a bad burrito!", "USA. RAF Lakenheath is technically a UK airbase, but the only units stationed there are US air force squadrons. Traditionally F15 squadrons but F35s have made a home there as well.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Lakenheath", "**[RAF Lakenheath](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Lakenheath)** \n \n >Royal Air Force Lakenheath or RAF Lakenheath (IATA: LKZ, ICAO: EGUL) is a Royal Air Force station near the village of Lakenheath in Suffolk, England, UK, 4. 7 miles (7. 6 km) north-east of Mildenhall and 8. 3 miles (13.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "They probably can't fly much slower", "Interesting!! Thank you for the context and link. I was wondering why they were there. I guess it makes sense for USAF to have jets in allied countries though.", "real kenm energy", "Those are actually from the base I’m stationed. RAF Lakenheath in the UK but USAF planes.", "*gasp* how is it over there? What's the weather like? \n\nI was about to start typing so many other questions and then realized you probably wouldn't be able to answer any of them for security reasons lol", "**[Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-25)** \n \n >The Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 (Russian: Микоян и Гуревич МиГ-25; NATO reporting name: Foxbat) is a supersonic interceptor and reconnaissance aircraft that is among the fastest military aircraft to enter service. Designed by the Soviet Union's Mikoyan-Gurevich bureau, it is one of the few combat aircraft built primarily using stainless steel. It was to be the last plane designed by Mikhail Gurevich, before his retirement. The first prototype flew in 1964 and the aircraft entered service in 1970.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_systems_officer", "F-15s are pure sex.", "Do you say this to those fools drag racing in the streets? Ru Paul has a lot to answer for. Dammed kids with their loud cars.", "Maybe this is a dumb question, but why are they armed if they're just doing low-level flying at the mach loop?", "All aircraft will perform different with weapons attached versus no external attachments. So they will want to practice with weapons because thats how the plane would feel in combat. Kind of like driving a car in the mountains completely empty versus driving it while towing a full trailer.", "Makes sense, thanks" ]
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F15 EAGLES 500 FEET 500 KNOTS (4K)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lcB2ILcDYj4
/r/videos/comments/rm2m7g/spear_vs_dual_wielding_sword/
[ "The reach made the swords useless", "how is a love tap to the shin equitable to a sword swing to the neck.", "Now you know why no one gave their armies a bunch of swords. They were often issued as secondary weapons for when lines collided and battles turned into scrappy brawls where you don't have the space to thrust effectively. Which is why they were used by things like city guards who could expect a scrappy fight. Other than that they were mostly just used as decoration as peoples status symbols.", "That's sort of a massive over simplification. Roman soldiers were equipped with a gladius long after hopolites were proven effective. Plenty of armies made great use of swords although spears were certainly easier to implement.", "I don't doubt that a spear would be a better weapon to use than a sword but a lot of the spear hits in the video looked pretty flaccid and quite a lot of the sword hits were made pretty solidly with good force...", "Right Romans began with phalanx warfare until reforming into the maniple." ]
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Spear Vs Dual Wielding Sword
https://youtu.be/wSbxoRDhtqU
/r/videos/comments/rm2tf1/russia_releases_previously_classified_1961/
[ "Tsar Bomba?", "Well thats one way of clearing the snow of your driveway!", "Russia trying really hard to send the world a message", "Imperialism of any variety is a hell of a drug. The Russian communist flavor comes with cool rifles and really big bombs.", "Imagine thinking that the USSR was imperialist.", "hahaha seriously?\n\nIf that was their intention by releasing this video, then they must have missed that the whole world is currently busy with something else right now.", "Imperialism - a policy of extending a country's power and influence through colonization, use of military force, or other means\n\nI don't know, this seems quite the accurate description, either USSR or Russia to be honest. Case in point, Crimea.\n\nThat said, let's not pretend that USA and China are not doing the same.", "This was uploaded in August 2020", ">Case and point, Crimea.\n\nIf you're talking about the 2014 annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation, may I point out that the Russian Federation is not a member of the USSR.", "The Warsaw Pact was essentially the USSR version of NATO. NATO is inarguably imperialist in its intent. The Eastern Bloc served a similar purpose that Guam and Hawaii do for the US empire.", "Thank you! I was wondering how come I had seen previously classified footage.", "Ukraine, and by extension Crimea, were part of the USSR by imperialist annexation in 1939 from Soviet forces.", "Sorry to be 'that guy', but the idiom you are looking for is 'Case in point'.\n\n[Explanation](https://writingexplained.org/case-in-point-case-or-case-and-point)\n\n*(I am not a bot. Just a drunkard and pedant)*", "no they weren't lol, the ukrainian SSR was formed in 1920. In 1939 USSR gave part of Poland to Ukraine, actually increasing the size of Ukrainian SSR and uniting its people _for the first time in history_. Also 20% of the ussr budget went to ukraine (during the first five year plan) which meant they gave ukraine more money than they took, which is literally the opposite of imperialism lmao. Then Krushchev just straight up gave crimea to ukraine in 1954.", "This is sarcastic, right?", "Why was it necessary to test so many bombs? E.g The USA made [over 1000 tests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_nuclear_weapons_tests). The Soviet Union made [almost as many](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_the_Soviet_Union).\n\nLike what part of the design was being changed so often and needed to be tested with a live bomb?", "Tons of different things they could test. In your link, under \"Notes\" it actually states what some of the goals of the test were.\n\nEntirely new bomb design, testing how the radiation spreads, testing different safety systems, placement of charges, the shape of the payload, different material compositions for the construction of the bomb, testing how different structures stand up to the blast, figuring out how height affects the blast, what effect does humidity/temperature have, testing different troop tactics with nuclear weapons, etc.", "I love accounts like this. Absolutely doofuses that genuinely believe they're being convincing.", "I read that too but I can't understand how it would take that many drops. They certainly weren't conducting one test per drop, so the number of test procedures is probably several thousand. \n\nThe notes mention ten types of test, but with thousands of tests conducted they must have tested each area hundreds of times? \n\nOr let's say there were 100 things they wanted to test. That's still dozens of tests each.", "Going from fission to fusion, going from uranium to plutonium, going from plutonium to tritium, going from one to two-stage, adding a neutron-emitter, etc.\n\nIn all, we have gotten very good at making efficient nuclear weapons.", "~1000 tests doesn't sound like too many when you consider its over a period of 47 years (1945-1992).\n\nEspecially when tests done in the upper atomosphere, at ground level, underground and underwater would have wildly different behaviours, so the results from one test couldn't easily be translated to the other.\n\nNot much more I can add but here's some extra information you might like:\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_testing", "Would be scary if there wasn't about ten different countries waiting to return the favour to that little shrimp. \n\nNow's the time to phase out oil & gas. We should also heavily subsidize our allies reserves in the meantime. Russia has nothing else.", "That's true. It was a long timescale and there were many scenarios. And thanks for the link, I have some reading to do.", "And clearing that pesky house from the view from your cellar.", "\"H-hey guys, remember when we used to be a global superpower and not just a declining kleptocracy that has to resort to thuggism in order to stay relevant?\"", "This is from last year for anyone wondering", "That's still a nuclear explosion roughly every 17 days, quite a lot.", "Thank you. The timing felt a little ominous, if they released this just as they pile troops on their border and fly nuclear bombers over Belarus.", "Tsar Bomba indeed. Amazing what powers we can generate.", "I can be paid to eat a bowl of shit, I can also have a gun to my head and forced to eat a bowl of shit. I'm still eating the shit.", "we are fucked", "Still today there are indigenous Sámi people in far northern Finland 900 kilometres from Novaya Zemlya who remember hearing and feeling this event. [They report seeing a lake \"drip upwards\" when the shockwave reached it, as well as the ground quaking (source in Finnish).](https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12242863)", "Makes you wonder if WW2 didn’t happen how much longer would it be before nuclear bombs would be created.", "The space aliens studying us must be so confused why we are bombing our own planet with radioactive stuff that is killing our ecosystem.", "Khrushchev’s Kamehameha wave", "\nтанец кукольный танец", "Somebody is getting frisky", "The radioactive stuff isn't what's killing our ecosystem. Yes radiological disasters are bad, but the damage done via carbon dioxide and other insulating chemicals entering our atmosphere is significantly more detrimental to the current life on this planet.\n\nNuclear weapons are terrifying for other reasons.", "Geopolitics and such aside, I kinda wish we had footage of a nuclear explosion with top-of-the-line modern cameras. Imagine the detail.", "This could apply to either the US or Russia today.", "For better or worse, the US is still a global superpower. They can effectively shape policy across the planet, and in multiple places at once. That's the basic definition. \n\nIt's become a declining kleptocracy, sure, but it's still a superpower.", "This YouTube video and Global News report is from last year, yes. The footage was released many years ago. I've seen every clip in this video at some point way before 2020.\n\nJust search 'Tsar Bomba' on YT and you can find this footage in videos from before 2020. Here's a clip of a Discovery Channel show with pretty much the same footage that was posted to YouTube in 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNhYOmEgy0\n\nI'm not sure what the purpose of the Global News report was. Russia may have released previously classified footage in 2020, but this isn't it.", "Looking for ways to more efficiently kill each other has always been the best way to advance technology. We’re pretty much at the end of the line for that though.", ">We’re pretty much at the end of the line for that though.\n\n???\n\nThat's an incredibly naive, wrong take on it.", "For killing of individuals there may still be plenty of room for improvement, but as for the mass killing, efficiency-wise, high power hydrogen bombs are going to be very difficult to beat.", "Don't you think that they said the same thing a couple of thousand years ago about other advancements. What about bio weapons? A virus bio engineered to affect people with certain dna flags. Or Nano bots targeting people in a certain geo location only. Science fiction now but if you would be talking about a Tsar Bomb in the middle ages you'd be burned for witchcraft.", "I feel like you're missing the part where I said efficiency.", "Being able to throw a rock from space at a spot on earth is a much more efficient way to kill way, way more people.", "We learned that the hard way from Marcos Inaros. \nIf only we had treated the belters better...", "Pretty sure this is old footage from years ago which has been declassified for ages, not seeing anything footagewise new in here this clip\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/AtomicPorn/", "The atom was split prior to the war, and the idea of an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction as a bomb wasn't something the Manhattan Project came up with. They didn't invent the bomb, they just built it. It would have came around soon after either way most likely.", "Yes I'm a puppet for a country that no longer exists.", "It could be done. There just wouldn't be survivors.\n\nAny.", "Very naive and very wrong.", "And just think, one pissed off scientist could make a nuke that could literally shatter the world.", "Give it about 1-2 decades and the US will be right there with em", "Perhaps. The Soviets and West already hated each other ever since the Revolution so I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Cold War proceeded about the same." ]
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Russia releases previously classified 1961 footage of largest ever nuclear explosion
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yGwI-N8QXxg&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/rm3cdb/take_your_briefcase_and_go/
[ "I love that his wallet is Velcro.", "That's all the evidence you need to prove he's only 16", "This must have been a pilot episode. I swear the show never looked like this.", "She looked like that for all the millions she made since she started. It's only recent that she changed her haircut.", "I mean the set and the graphic overlays/camera angles.", " I read \"the show\" as \"she\" \n\n\ndaffyduckinsane.gif", "There’s no justice on this show, it’s max cringe all the way lol", "Roasted!" ]
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Take your briefcase and go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCa2kyHFpM
/r/videos/comments/rm3ghu/real_gregorian_monks_singing_the_halo_theme_song/
[ "Totale war medieval\nVibes here \n\nDeus Vult", "dum dum dum dummmm, der dum dum dum dumm!!!!!", "Reminds me of\nAce Ventura 2 when he’s like astral projecting Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhlrighty theeeeeeeen." ]
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Real Gregorian monks singing the Halo theme song in a chapel
https://youtu.be/K6m962XlMhw
/r/videos/comments/rm3v3b/good_work_writer_of_the_matrix/
[ "I see I'm too early for the \"Actually in the original script...\" comment. I will check back later.", "Ah. I was about to write one. would it be bad form to do so now?\n\nFuck it.\n\nMany changes were done to script aftr it was initially written.\n\nOne of them being turning humans from providers of *brainz* to power source.\n\nOther was *switch* o longer switching genders when entering the Matrix, and this one I actually think sucks more. \"It's all completely unreal ... but you better use the body ~~machines~~ I mean *god* gave you!\"", "actually in the original script the humans were used for proccessing power and not for energy, but they had to dumb it down for people to understand the concept.", "Well yea that's what they're saying.\n\nThat, and that the Wachowskis were very obviously trans.", "The way I understood it is that, in the original script, they used the human brains as processors for computing power for the matrix, transforming body btu's to power was only secondary.", "Haha, couple of days ago I made sure to mention it to the group of friends when we were rewatching the movie.", "What was the original script?", ">had to dumb it down for people\n\nI mean, who told them they had to do that? I'm not sure what's worse; them thinking we're too dumb to question the human battery idea or them thinking we're too dumb to imagine our brains' processing power being harnessed by machines.", "Actually in things like the books or RPGs Stormtroopers really are accurate sharpshooters and are very dangerous as opposed to the movi---\n\nOhhh this is a Matrix topic. Nevermind", "In my head canon they aren't \"using\" the humans except as a secondary mechanism to keeping us alive. They are preserving us so that once the world we destroyed in the war and turned completely uninhabitable heals, they will attempt a 3rd renesance between man and machine.\n\nThe Matrix is a preservation device to keep us from atrophying as a species and losing all culture and knowledge. That is also why it is set in a time period as close to the advent of the machines as possible.\n\nThe machines don't need us for anything. They are simply keeping us on life support until the planet is ready for them to attempt a second chance at peace.", "the entire trans thing gives me the same energy as \"Dumbledore is gay, actually\"", "Probably the movie execs who wanted that duracell sponsorship.", "I never thought that the machines were going to try peace with the humans again. I think they were way past that point.", "Indeed you are.", "\"Ah yes, the Second Law of Thermodynamics. And where did you learn about that, Neo? In highschool? In... The Matrix?\"", "That makes much more sense.", "Then why bother keeping humans alive ?", "If you knew you would eventually get your way, what reason is there in the meantime to clean up your act? Case in point, the advance notice the US gave the Taliban about their withdrawal plans.", "But not the IBM sponsorship?", "It's more like going back to the books and reading about a woman with a heavy jaw and masculine hands who uses secret transformation magic to sneak into a school. Easily overlooked parts of a creator's old work can be strongly recontextualized by new revelations about them.", "While it makes a lot more sense, it also somewhat changes the dynamic between humans and machines. In the canon as is, machines were essentially forced to use humans as an alternative energy source because humans blotted out the sun. But if humans are just used to improve processing power, which isn't strictly necessary for the machines' ongoing survival, it does make machines look more unequivocally evil.", "I was watching reloaded yesterday and honestly its as good as the first one.", "Actually, in the original script, the purpose of the Matrix wasn't to generate energy but to do A/B testing of clickbait-y headlines for the Machine City newspaper.", "I have an excellent matrix fan scene and its similar to what you are saying. In my story, neo wakes up to find all matrix movies are in a simulation that happened in his brain/mind. He wakes up in a lab with many capsules with many neos running many simulations. Machine is keeping the bodies alive and the simulations are getting more complex over time. At one point the machine AI (already aware but not part of the simulation) became meta aware and involved in the simulation. That's where the machine characters came from. When neos wake up they can't go back to the normal simulation anymore. They have to go back in as meta aware and machines fight and continue to grow complexity.", "Wow, the animation in the futurama reboot was really bad.", "The difference is that the writers obviously used their own experience to write the movie putting in a vague allegory for a very specific thing. The Dumbledore thing was kinda out of nowhere, but trans people tend to be aware of what they're doing when they put trans imagery into their artistic works.", "So that we could see Chris Pratt play Mario", "Wear a condom", "Actually in the original script, the matrix was an omnipotent supercomputer and Neo was a hopeless romantic looking for love in the big city, and they had to team up to catch Morpheus, a shape-shifting alien super villain from another planet committing ritualistic murders to honor the holy trinity. \n\n\nThe script was ultimately changed to the battery thing because Keaunu Reeves and the matrix didn't have great on screen chemistry.", "that is actually worse. a 40 year old cpu is waay better for computing than a regular human brain.", "Actually in the original script the robots kept humans alive to solve captchas.", "They made the mistake of not narrating stuff. That's why nimble headed folks couldn't get how awesome it is.", "Lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rm3v3b/good_work_writer_of_the_matrix/hpkafrt/", "Top 10 reasons Neo is not a real massiah.", "It would have been really cool if they leaned into it too..\n\nMorpheus: \"How do you feel, Neo?\"\n\nNeo: \"I can't sleep. I've been awake for 36 hours and I'm not even tired.\"\n\nMorpheus: \"You've never needed to sleep. What we experienced as 'Sleep' was the machines suppressing our minds in order to further their goals, the confused dreams our attempt to make sense of being used for data processing.\"\n\n>Other was switch o longer switching genders when entering the Matrix, and this one I actually think sucks more. \"It's all completely unreal ... but you better use the body machines I mean god gave you!\"\n\nI agree, it could have been an incredibly interesting detail of the movie, but I suppose we weren't ready for that in 1999. \n\nAlso, I can't decide if Switch should have been their real gender inside the matrix or outside. Being correctly gendered when in the Matrix establishes that being trans is a part of the human condition, and also serves as a tragic side story where Switch has chosen to suffer being the wrong gender to enjoy the freedom of reality. Could have spent most of the time jacked in working in a virtual office so they have the right body, interacting with the crew through monitors like they were working remotely. \n\nHowever, Switch being the correct gender outside the Matrix further establishes it as something that screws humans up, another facet of feeling like you don't belong, that somethings not right with reality, emphasizing those themes from the movie.\n\nBoth are great options that would have fit in well with the movie.", "He's so cool.", "It's fitting that a videogame based movie would have an AI generated list of cast members", "Humans were used as CPU instead of batteries. But since not everyone knew what a CPU was, they changed it to batteries. This need to be verified however.", "In most of the movies Stormtroopers are excellent marksmen too. People just like to make memes about it.\n\nThey were missing on purpose during Leia's escape from the Death Star so that the Millenium Falcon could be tracked and lead the Empire to the hidden rebel base. Leia even says that it was too easy, and told Han \"They're tracking us\". And the Admiral says to Vader \"We're taking a big risk letting them go.\"\n\nIn The Empire Strikes Back they overtook the rebel base on Hoth very quickly. Even in Return of the Jedi the battle of Endor was only won because the rebels had the entire civilian population of Ewoks to help overwhelm the empirial forces (and plenty of shots of ewoks dying were shown) and until the shield went down the rebel fleet was getting massacred. Also Leia gets shot.\n\nIn the Prequels the clone troopers decisively win battles against droids, who literally have aimbots, and they also killed most of the Jedi during order 66.\n\nAnd the sequel trilogy never really gave a shit about consistency, lore, the canon, or universe, so it's best to leave it out of discussions like this.\n\nStormtroopers are excellent marksmen.", "Does no else remember Morpheus saying, \"combined with a form of fusion,\" when describing how the machines use humans for power? It is never claimed in the movie that they generate power purely from bodyheat. Is that a cop out, writing-wise? Probably, but it is no less ridiculous than blocking out the sun or a massive city deep within the earth's service. You can argue that it is lampshaded or an example of genre blindness, but it DOES make logical sense in the context of the story.", "Even without the changes from the original script, Morpheus has the throwaway point of 'combined with a form of fusion'. So the machines may require some human bodily process to convert nuclear energy efficiently into something they can use.\n\nI think that's a vague but acceptable understanding that doesn't have the problem alluded to.\n\nFuturama is funny though.", "Punchline in the title. Nice one.", "ah yes, the classic \"the movie isn't bad you just aren't smart enough to get it\" line. That always goes over well.", "Same reason we have zoos with animals that are dangerous. Conservation and entertainment.", "“You think that’s energy you’re transferring?”", "There's plenty of energy sources around the machines could use easily. Geothermal, orbital solar power, hydro, nuclear, etc. \n\nAll of those also generate energy without having to feed billions of people.. wait where did all those people in tanks get nutrition?", "That's a solid plot!", "Actually, in the original script, the purpose of the Matrix wasn't to generate energy but to put lots of matrix bits on the frontpage to promote the upcoming movie with shitty bootleg Morpheus", "> Other was switch o longer switching genders when entering the Matrix, and this one I actually think sucks more.\n\nConsidering both of the writers for the Matrix are trans, it makes sense that they wanted to approach that kind of topic in their movie", "Even that doesn't make any sense to me. What are they computing? What do they value? Once they successfully enslaved all humans, what do they keep them around for? Computing power? Computing what? Are they just a bitcoin mining scheme for some aliens? And if the humans brains are occupied with computations and learning, then how would they have any brainpower left for believing the fiction of the matrix?\n\nThe power source idea, while scientifically stupid, makes more sense: if the machines have some kind of pseudo-biological impulse to survival, then a source of power would be far more valuable to them than a source of CPU cycles", "> In the Prequels the clone troopers decisively win battles against droids, who literally have aimbots, and they also killed most of the Jedi during order 66.\n>\n> Stormtroopers are excellent marksmen.\n\n\nClone Troopers are not Stormtroopers.\n\n Clone Troopers are genetic copies of one of the best bounty hunters of the era, and trained extensively from \"birth\" to be the perfect soldiers. They were often trained by other bounty hunters, and the jedi themselves.\n\nStormtroopers are just dudes. They aren't the terrible soldiers people like to meme them as, but they are a clear step down in quality from Clone Troopers.", "1. Too skinny. To go from the messiah to the massiah, he’s really going to have to put on them gainz.", "Ahh the good old reverse groundhog.", "I always wanted the Matrix trilogy to be smarter than it was. The first one is really quite good, but does have logical flaws like this one. \n\nI wanted the 2nd one to be Prime-Neo except he begins to find out he could do Matrix things outside the Matrix. \n\nI wanted the 3rd one to be the discovery that they never left the Matrix and that \"outside the Matrix\" is just a cache zone for those that \"break out\" of the primary layer. And that all of the logic behind the Matrix is intentionally nonsense - human batteries for example. It never needed to work because that was also virtual. It would very, very neatly turn all of the flaws into clever clues instead. \n\nBut alas... they didn't consult me when they wrote that so... here we are.", "Also, blocking out the sun, couldn't robots just build towers with solar panels? There was butt loads of sun up there. Straight, metric, butt loads.\n\nDumbest, smart machines I've ever seen.", "I like this idea of them as benevolent dictators. I think Matrix 4 could also easily retcon the power source idea by simply saying \"that was just Zion's best guess. It was completely wrong and stupid\"", "I think you underestimate how dumb 90s people were about computers.", "That way having them actually experiencing the matrix makes sense. They have to keep the brains alive and healthy and experiencing life so they can be tasked by the machines to provide more brain power. You have a link to the original script by chance?", "How much weed were you people smoking watching this show?", "The movie itself didn't go over well. lol", "I think they're forgetting that it was \"combined with a form of fusion\", which is vague enough to cover the plot-hole perfectly.", "You think IBM wanted the image of keeping humans in pods for their processing power as their corporate branding?", ">That, and that the Wachowskis were very obviously trans.\n\nI don't understand the relevance of this", "If I said that, \"the state of New York is powered by this hamster running on a wheel and a form of fusion\" then I'm functionally just saying that New York is being powered by fusion.\n\nAlso within the context of the story the characters all *think* that humans are being kept alive to exploit them for their electricity. But any surface level understanding of physics and biology would lead them to know that that's impossible. And that keeping humanity alive would necessarily be a drain on the machines power. So why don't any of the characters ever ask themselves what the machines are really doing keeping them in the matrix? Because it's obviously not to harvest their BTUs.", "I’m excited to see the new movie tonight but damn if Wachowski hasn’t immediately made me very very skeptical by not including Fishburne. Better be some amazing logic to it, I think more than anyone he was the soul of the original trilogy.", "Final line is in the title. But here the jokes come from the journey, not the destination. Having the final line doesn't detract from the humour.", "holy shit i thought they were the same", "> Even in Return of the Jedi the battle of Endor was only won because the rebels had the entire civilian population of Ewoks to help overwhelm the empirial forces (and plenty of shots of ewoks dying were shown) and until the shield went down the rebel fleet was getting massacred. Also Leia gets shot.\n\nThis is a massive and inexplicable L for the empire though, more so than any other. The ewoks were 3 foot tall primitives whose weapons technology peaked with the sling. The Empire was a galaxy spanning, militaristic hegemony. Also, I'm pretty sure they didn't have the entirety of the ewoks on Endor, they had just the one tribe.", "Chris Pratt. Not so hot right now.", "Well according to the game (which is considered canon) he's dead.", "I think it more makes the humans look colossally stupid for blotting out the sun given machines could easily be powered in so many other ways.", "Was that in the movie? If so, I don't remember, and if not, it really should have been.", "Being transgender, if I woke up in the \"real world\" and found out I was actually in the 'right body' all this time, that'd be enough for me to singlehandedly lead the rebellion against the robots. Fuck robots.", "Thank you for my first great laugh of the week", "Yeah I would not consider that amazing logic. Trinity is canonically dead too.", "Alex Jones should have played Morpheus.", ">If I said that, \"the state of New York is powered by this hamster running on a wheel and a form of fusion\" then I'm functionally just saying that New York is being powered by fusion.\n\nI mean, I'm not sure I agree. You'll have to tell me more about this hamster.", "Only a human and detect the 3 photographs of a bicycle amid these 9.", "The sequels get a lot of hate. I tend to fall into your camp. They are fun, good storytelling. I still enjoy them quite a bit.", "Our last line of defense against the machines, pointing to pictures of traffic lights.", "I rewatched it recently too and it was better than I remember. Not as good as the first, and the godawful fully animated scenes need to go, but otherwise it was not terrible.", "Machines don't have entertainment, Agent Smith may be unique in that regard.", "So why are the machines trying to eradicate the humans in the real world?", "Actually, in the original script, the robots kept humans alive to smell their farts.", "CPU better for computing math. Might be some other motive, but they went the battery angle.", "It was. It was in the same scene as the red/blue pills.\n\nEdit: it's been a long time since I saw the movie and I'm tired. My brain just fabricated that memory, complete with Lawrence Fishburne saying it.", "It's a very short What If snip within a much larger unrelated fanfic. You can read the Matrix bit [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/HPMOR/comments/853c7l/if_you_had_to_show_someone_one_excerpt_from_hpmor/dvulcxl/).", "Because they run their code on our brains. That's the entire point", "I'm not saying using humans makes any sense with our understanding of science, but within the canon of the show clearly humans were a much better energy source than any alternatives (including any other warm-blooded organism for some reason), otherwise machines wouldn't have bothered with the Matrix and just used those instead.", "Originally the movie had trans people, including one of the main characters. They would swap genders when they went into the matrix.", "Absolutely not. \n\nThe human brain has roughly a petabyte of storage (a thousand 1TB SSD drives worth of data). \n\nThe human brain is roughly ten times more energy efficient than today's processors. \n\nAccording to biologists, the human brain has approximately 90 billion nerve cells which are linked together by, quite literally, trillions of connections called synapses. Taken together, this system of elaborate connections within the brain provides “hundreds of trillions of different pathways that brain signals travel through.\"\n\nIn an effort to mimic this digitally, scientists ten years ago needed more than 82,000 processors running on one of the world’s fastest supercomputers for forty minutes to mimic just 1 second of a normal human’s brain activity.\n\nIn 2011, the [Fujitsu K Computer](https://www.cnet.com/news/fujitsu-supercomputer-simulates-1-second-of-brain-activity/) (fastest super computer in the world in 2011), simulated 1 second of human brain activity. \n\n* The simulation harnessed the power of 82,944 processors on the K computer\n* It took the Fujitsu-built K about 40 minutes to complete a simulation of one second of neuronal network activity in real time.\n\n\nWhile, evidently, *your* brain might be slower than a 40 year old cpu, the rest of us ...not so much.", "Finally! People who realize The Matrix is utter trash!", "Morpheus literally says in the movie: \"Combined with a form of fusion\"\n\nThey were keeping the humans alive in the matrix as a compromise for unending war. As seen in the Animatrix.", "they said they liquify the dead to feed the living in the movie.", "They were also way cheaper. Most of them were conscripts. Sure you had a lot of volunteers also, but yeah. Way cheaper to have a bunch of dudes, and then filter out the ones that are better into special units like Inferno (which admittedly I have no idea how canon they are now) than keep paying for clones.", "Like, did it have a name?", "And why would a city so flush with hulking rats employ a hamster for this task? I'm not buying it.", "They were fed the ground up remains of other people who had died.\n\nPretty sure I remember them saying that in the first movie.", "They acted like that was true, but the machines gave humanity multiple chances for peace, and individual programs were neutral or even friendly toward humans", "You might find this interesting\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere", "Yes", "**[Dyson sphere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere)** \n \n >A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure that completely encompasses a star and captures a large percentage of its power output. The concept is a thought experiment that attempts to explain how a spacefaring civilization would meet its energy requirements once those requirements exceed what can be generated from the home planet's resources alone. Because only a tiny fraction of a star's energy emissions reaches the surface of any orbiting planet, building structures encircling a star would enable a civilization to harvest far more energy.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "It's not even that it's better at computing math, it's that the limited amount of space the human mind uses for thinking, isn't good at math. \n\nYour brain does waaaay more math than just calculations in your thoughts. \n\nEvery time you take a step, your brain calculates the distance, weight, angle etc etc of each step. And it does this for every single thing you do. Throwing a ball requires your brain to do a lot of math, it's just not done in your thoughts.", "I say that the machines are \"benevolent\" and are simply trying to keep the human race alive and well.", "Um... no it wasn't?", "Odd, I read that they had TOO GOOD of chemistry. Like, really weirdly good chemistry. It made the audience uncomfortable.", "That’s the criticism…the movies only mention using the human bodies as a power source not a computing source.", "I tend to just suspend my disbelief a little and just assume that it's explained by Morpheus how **he** understands it, or as it was explained to him. \n\nThough it's pretty well established in the sequels and Animatrix that the humans were put in the Matrix for their own protection.", "It's true, Endor should have been a landslide victory for the empire. I tend to consider that part believable because home turf advantages are typically huge in warfare.\n\nI also read an interesting fan theory that the ewoks were well prepared to fight ATSTs because they hunt the largest predators on Endor. It's why those traps with the swinging logs and falling piles of logs were already set up, and how Ewoks had practice attacking from flanks and keeping an opponent distracted and confused.", "It’s still there!", "Err, no. It's not even close.\n\nA human brain far exceeds anything we have today in terms of image and language processing.\n\nThis is why, despite all our technological advancements, we still need humans to check training data to verify \"is there a truck in this picture?\".\n\nWe have our flaws but we also have our strengths.", "Human brains ain't the greatest computational medium... Especially considering efficiency.", "According to something I read on the interwebs, the original purpose was to use the brains as a sort of biocomputer, and the matrix was essentially keeping the human alive so the bots could access the compute power. Apparently this was too complex.", "I just finished watching Resurrections and it fixes a lot of those problems pretty effectively IMO....it's the sequel The Matrix deserved.", "Perfect! I think I've seen it previously.", "I hope this is actually true and that this was their solution instead of just getting rid of captchas.", "I think Switch was the other way round. Her IRL body was male, but entering the Matrix allowed her consciousness to freely determine her physical reality.\n\nI suspect, if it hadn't been cut, she may have been forced to present as male before Morpheus offered her the red pill (which the wachowski's have confirmed is estrogen). She'd have been doing just as you said you would, just with the added knowledge that her oppressors had deliberately denied her the power to define herself.\n\nWould have been very on the nose, and even in a liberated society I can imagine it being cut, but damn, a switching Switch could have saved us from a million illiterate chuds ruining the legacy of \"The Red Pill\"", "There's a great parody there, but I don't think he would think it's a parody", "They needed to narrate stuff. So the movie wasn't put together as good as it should have been.", "Yes, that's is what we're talking about.", "Granted, it's not a general purpose meat computer, but the brain is great at processing hundreds of thousands of inputs at once every second. It's kinda what brains are best at.\n\nI mean, the premise is far more interesting not just because it is physically possible, but indeed how it paints the machines as an unknowable foe, with designs far beyond simple survival. It's not like a plot point is bad if it creates more questions than answers; especially when it serves the foundation of a story.", "I think the point is that's not the real Morpheus. I hope.", "Sorry, misunderstood. I thought you were claiming that’s how it worked in the movies rather than how it *should* have.", "This, at the time the brothers/sisters who wrote the script thought people in 1995 wouldn't be able to wrap their heads around that. \nLeave it for the remake in a few years. Btw you heard it here first!", "I would think the first obvious idea would be to use brains as a networked supercomputer, but that's not as impactful, holding up a flash drive instead of a AA battery. \n\nI prefer the energy-creation angle, even if more of a suspension of disbelief.", "Aren't we? Do you have any sources on either direction? Like, I imagine a whole human may not be, but I recall reading that brains are very efficient in terms of algorithm execution vs energy. No source tho, so take it with a grain of salt.", "Nope. He’d be convinced the Globalists told us about the matrix because they have to tell you their plan under intergalactic contract law. \n\nI’m not making this up", "It's not dumb, it's uneducated, but yeah, that was the argument.", "I’d heard that they were using the brains of humans as computer chips. But 🤷‍♀️", "Is that supposed to be funny? Because it's hilarious.", "Sir, I'd like to buy your hamster.", "Bad work OP writer of this post", "The dance cave party scene made me want to barf but everything else was cool", "Dumbledore", "> the matrix was an omnipotent supercomputer and Neo was a hopeless romantic looking for love in the big city\n\nHave you seen Matrix 4? >!Because that's basically the plot.!<", "Grrr", "Rats refuse to do non-union jobs.", "My favorite part of that scene is Neo and Trinity \"needing\" to sneak off to find a private place to bang, as if everyone in that entire cave isn't gettin nasty", "You know what, you're right. I just read that comment and my brain said \"yeah, he said that right after Neo took the pill and he explained what the Matrix was.\" Complete false memory.", "What is the real / correct gender? What do you mean by that?", "Brains are cool like that. I think it was in some of the expanded universe stuff. It is a direct quote from something in the media universe in the Matrix, I just don't recall what.", "> Only a human and detect the 3 photographs of a bicycle amid these 9.\n\nAbout half the time.\n\nSource: am human. I think.", "Heh, and then it would be written in human history that trans people were the fiercest warriors and leaders, the only ones with the awareness to perceive something was wrong with the Matrix. If that were the plot of the new Matrix, I would pay just to see conservatives react to it.", ">Though it's pretty well established in the sequels and Animatrix that the humans were put in the Matrix for their own protection.\n\nOrly? Care to expand on this?", "Huh?", "I'm talking about the gender they want to be.", "I guess because in this theory, if the humans destroy the Matrix (and subsequently the real-world robots) they also destroy the chance for the Human-Robot peace.", "Well not gonna be that guy but the human mind has consciousness in it which I believe is the substrate of reality. Meaning the whole world is created within the mind and it is an illusion that there is an outside.", "You can tell the writers of Futurama were talking directly to us in this scene because there's absolutely no way Fry could've made that observation on his own.", "> Throwing a ball requires your brain to do a lot of math\n\n\"Math\" is just a philosophical abstraction to describe nature. A ball rolling down a hill can be described with math, but the ball and the hill don't need to \"calculate\" anything. Your body and brain work on patterns defined by physical matter. The human brain is great at abstraction, so it can invent math to calculate, but the brain itself is simply a complicated ball rolling down a hill.", "That's just not true. Our brains run on 12-20 watts of power. \n\nA computer is much better at doing math, but we can intuitively do processes much more complex than any computer can. Things like pattern recognition.", "I feel like \"Good work, writer of the Matrix\" is an inside joke I'm not quite getting.", "Yall know every time we do that we help the robot overlords little more", "Using brains as a computing source was how it was written in the original script. It was dumbed down because they thought audiences wouldn't get it.\n\nThat's what the comments at the top are referencing. Reddit loves to bring up that fact.", "I always assumed it was symbolism, like everything else in it.", "IIRC, the reason they switched from badass super-soldier clones (besides the price) was that Jango dying meant they had no new source of his pure DNA, apparently you can only makes clones out of the same genetic sample so many times before you start getting diminished results.\n\nPalpatine also just didn't need as good of an army anymore after the Jedi had all been dealt with.", "The greatest trick the matrix ever pulled is convincing humans that it's not possible.", "Yup", " that is one specific task some part of brain spent millions of years to come this far. but it doesnt mean you can use it for every processing need, especially deep simulations. even little spiders have image processing, if you able to convert that processing power to satisfy your general computing needs, human body come last to use because of its complex needs.\n\n gpu is far more powerful than cpu but you can't use it the way like you use cpu, logic operations for example. because gpu evolved for that one specific task, pixel processing.", "Trinity was a single girl who moved from a small town to the big city to work at a cool magazine company with glass cubicles and interior brick walls. She was focused only on her career, not interested in meeting a man but one day she met Neo and entered…the Matrix. This Christmas Newline Cinema presents a story about trying to have it all while actually just being a body hooked up to harvest electricity.", "> They were missing on purpose during Leia's escape from the Death Star so that the Millenium Falcon could be tracked and lead the Empire to the hidden rebel base. Leia even says that it was too easy, and told Han \"They're tracking us\". And the Admiral says to Vader \"We're taking a big risk letting them go.\"\n\nAllegedly only in fan forums. IRL this is a glaring plot hole and fan theory to attempt to patch it up. Lucas never had anything like this in mind during writing and production of the film.", "\"And for a time, it was good.\" I think about that line often. The Animatrix is a solid-ass set of stories.", "> Stormtroopers are just dudes. They aren't the terrible soldiers people like to meme them as, but they are a clear step down in quality from Clone Troopers.\n\nSee this works perfectly for me. You've got millions and maybe billions of soldiers and it's going to be hard to quality control some of them. Some shitty ones are going to slip through the cracks, especially on a gigantic station like the Death Star.\n\nI don't know why people have to make up excuses for everything odd about the Star Wars movies, stuff like \"They purposely missed!\" just drives me insane. Lucas never intended any of that, they were just shitty shots in a space opera.", "Spooky, I just watched this episode earlier today.", "gotta agree", "You're actually not far off.\n\nIn the original draft, the machines were using human brains for their processing power, sort of like cheap processing units that could run the machine world. Much easier to grow a couple million brains (and the attached bodies) in a vat from cheap, abundant biological material. The thing that made Neo special was that his brain had been used to run basically admin privilege Matrix code, and the resistance needed him to use his admin powers to free the people.\n\nThe Hollywood suits thought all that tech mumbo jumbo about software and admin privileges and all that would fly right over the average moviegoer's head, so they made the Wachowski siblings change it to batteries.", "So ... We're just pets?", "You need to watch Matrix and Animatrix in order to understand the whole story.", "Nothing is ever a 100% transfer of power. One human dying does not keep another one alive for as long as the last one was alive.", "Yeah you're right. That's more of an *Oracle* move.", "graphic renders", "They put the people in the matrix to stop the war as it was, basically. The machines won. They didn't need the sun or humans for power.", "Neo: ok this sounds dumb because of 'reasons'\nMorpheus: where did you hear those reasons? \nNeo: from the robots..\nMorpheus: do you think they were ly..\nNeo: yeah they were lying...", "That is so much better", "> Clone Troopers are genetic copies of one of the best bounty hunters of the era, and trained extensively from \"birth\" to be the perfect soldiers. They were often trained by other bounty hunters, and the jedi themselves.\n\nHuh? I thought that was only the case in the Disney version? After the fall of the empire and the rise of the first orgasm?", "I think driftking428 knows this, he's just playing off this common fun fact. Like how Steve Buschemi was a firefighter at the Great Fire of London.", "That would be a terrible movie because there's absolutely no reason for the machines to put you in a different sex in the matrix", "Smith was a program in the Matrix, not a machine. We really have not seen much of the machines, at least in the movies. I haven’t seen many Animatrix so I don’t know if they’re characterized more there.", "Captchas when you have to constantly do more and more things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LButXcZ57pc", "I prefer to believe the matrix as morpheus knows it is (also) a lie, and there's another level of consciousness above that, where the consciousness that is Neo is actually AI in a robot body, and he's been diving into simulations of human worlds, as humans, so that the AI can understand humanity better (to achieve it themselves).\n\nIt's the only way I can suffer through the \"Neo has magic powers after he wakes up\".\n\nThat said, the 1st movie is probably my favorite movie of all time.", "You can continue to masturbate by praising you brain but we are talking about the processing power.\n\nNot about the storage (even that is also incorrect) you can't even remember your sixth birthday besides of a faded memory but computer gives you exactly same input you saved. When you look a photo of your birthday, you can see the data it saved, color of your carpet and the texture of your wall etc. Now look at a picture for 2 hours and describe it. Then lets compare the results how you saved with a digital photo. There is also optimization aspect of storage. Nowadays %90 smaller data can create wonders. But you can't optimize your brains data, it is just an estimate of recordings. And it is not %100 certain most of the times.\n\nNot about the energy efficiency.\n\nAs you can see, you can't even understand what you just read.\n\nAnd if you think they are in our lives just for 60 years, you can't think what they able to do in 100 years later with the help of AI developing itself. Which is the timeline of the movie.\n\nAnd about the computation, why do you think after 60s, Nasa started to use computers instead of humans to process data and calculations then? It was 60s and they abandoned the human brain. Damn you cant even compare those and you call your brain better.", "It wouldn't need to be intentional.", "This clip SERIOUSLY sucks a big beefer and here's why:\n\n1) Making jokes at the expense of the Matrix literally 20+ later. How topical, brave, and daring! \n\n2) Futurama in death throws. Take a ten second joke and repeat it and hammer it home to... \"amplify\" the humour? Uh-huh. Definitely not just padding page count.\n\n3) The writers of the Matrix originally wanted to say the machines were essentially using the human brains as memory/processors. While this is still an out-there concept, it definitely makes more sense and is something the machines might think to do. The reason this was changed is because producers thought audiences were too stupid to understand.\n\n4) Wanna talk about shitty writing? The movies were decades old by the time this scene takes place. You could see newgrounds animations that were 12 years old making this exact joke.\n\n5) The Matrix is cool", "Yeah im like 80% sure this is going to be the plot of the new movie lol", "The second reneissance only implies this:\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU8RunvBRZ8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU8RunvBRZ8)\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61FPP1MElvE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61FPP1MElvE)\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlRMLZRBq6U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlRMLZRBq6U)\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00TD4bXMoYw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00TD4bXMoYw)\n\nBut it's nice recap of the matrix lore.", "IIRC, people were supposed to used as biological processors for the machines, but some people in charge thought the audience would be too smooth brained to understand that premise. So they changed it to electricity because that's something the average idiot is familiar with.", "I've also heard that in an earlier draft there was to be a reveal in the two newer Matrix films that behind the machines were humans in control. Something that was foreshadowed in the second Matrix about how the Council member remarks at the lesser AIs/Machines below the people of Zion working for them.\n\nLike some perpetual meta leap frog, so that humans are kept alive because of humans. Can't say if that would've been a better reveal but it sounded interesting.", "If an image has a bicycle wheel in it, does that count as an image with a bicycle or not? Asking for my 'non-robot' friend.", "The Futurama crew is I'ma giant warehouse full of old people who are used as \"batteries\" when one of the crew asks about the logic behind using people instead of actual batteries or even a potato. Someone else explains that it actually works and the idea came from an old movie. Then what's in the post happens", "Humans aren't really logical, we are emotional, so when faced with AI, instead of doing the logical thing and making a peaceful existence in the face of a more intelligent and what is arguably the next step of evolution, we got salty and tried to completely wipe them out (the AI) by, again using our totally awesome logic, blocking out the sun and well ... They didn't like that, and put us in the matrix to kinda try and figure out what to do, and that's pretty much where the matrix movies start, with us in these pods many generations after said event.", "Didn't the Animatrix also elude to the robots wanting to keep the humans alive because they viewed them as their flawed parents and still had sympathy for their dumbasses?", "\\>forced ad specifically when watching on reddit\n\nthis video can fuck right off, especially because I'm sure it's so Disney/Fox can get another dime to throw on their pile of gold", "I love this show so much.", "This actually makes so much more sense since brains are crazy efficient compared to today's computers. They need very little energy.", "In the Animatrix depiction of the Human Machine War, the machines are like androids. Walking around talking and so forth not the multi tentacled drone soldiers you see depicted in the movie. And we are told their primary power source is solar. You have to understand the machine war takes place in a future where solar is the dominant power source so it has become very efficient.", "Oh, so it was humanity that struck first?", "Everyone knows, if you need to make any changes to your PC, you need Scott from IT to log in with his admin account.", "Yeah i like that idea too. I think you could say morpheus is such a zealot that he's blind to how the 2nd law invalidates the idea that the humans are being used as batteries, but however flawed the reasoning is, it meshes with his worldview and so he doesn't challenge it, and even repeats it to Neo. \n\n\nSorry for that construction of that sentence.", "Alex Jones is a fucking lunatic but he did get one thing right with The Bohemian Grove and it pisses me off cause now it doesn't get looked at cause it's associated with Alex Jones", "What?\nThe human brain is the most efficient computer we've found. It's probably 10 orders of magnitude more efficient than today's best silicon.", "You went for the risky \"well aktually\" skip to save a couple seconds in the reddit comments speed run, but luckily we have some backup strats we can use.", "Elude...", "\"Surely no one would ever think the second matrix is as good as the first\" is a thing I used to think before today. Good job, the internet, you still got it.\n\nEdit: I should remember this is also the site that invented a whole very popular forum for the dumb star wars prequels. Gonna ignore movie opinions from you people from here on out.", "Good point. I should've said 'binary calculations' or something to that point, but I like your wording better and I figured my comment would be buried anyways lol.", "No. This is fact that was shot and filmed and included in the movie. The quotes I gave were from the film. There was 2 separate scenes (one on the Millenium Falcon, one on the Death Star) in the original film and all remakes that make it very plain that the empire let them go. It's a little shocking there are still people who think this is a fan theory.\n\nLeia said the escape was too easy and it's obvious they let them go. Then the admiral said they let them go. The empire undeniably let them go, and even explained their reasoning.\n\nHave you seen the film?", ">According to Kwabena Boahen, a computer scientist at Stanford University, a robot with a processor as smart as the human brain would require at least 10 megawatts to operate. That’s the amount of energy produced by a small hydroelectric plant. But a small group of computer scientists may have hit on a new neural supercomputer that could someday emulate the human brain’s low energy requirements of just 20 watts–barely enough to run a dim light bulb.\n\nhttps://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2009-11/neuron-computer-chips-could-overcome-power-limitations-digital/\n\n>A typical computer runs on about 100 watts of power. A human brain, on the other hand, requires roughly 10 watts. That's right, your brain is ten times more energy-efficient than a computer.\n\nhttps://www.crucial.com/blog/technology/how-does-the-human-brain-compare-to-a-computer", "Humans brains are incredibly efficient computers.\n\nTold a guy one time that Alpha Go had finally beaten the best human Go player, something most of us didn't expect to happen within our lifetime.\n\nHe says bah, that's not impressive. Let me know when they do it on 30 Watts like we do.", "Our brain putty can do what those metal motherfuckers' think boxes can't: think laterally. Look outside the box for a solution to a utility function. Any self-respecting general artificial intelligence is going to know to keep stocked on human bio-computers as an intermediary goal.", "I repeat, we never left Shoney’s!", "Dipshit, your brain is thousands of times more powerful than any computer processor you can buy *today*. \n\nYou said processors even 40 years ago were more powerful (this is laughable). CPUs are good for specific calculations, and doing them rapidly, but a CPU can't come up with anything that a human brain hasn't told it how to do. \n\nIf you knew anything about anything, you'd also know that a single woman did the calculations for the first moon landing, not a computer. Her name was [Kathern Johnson](https://futurism.com/meet-the-woman-who-did-the-calculations-for-the-first-moon-landing). [Read more](https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/2/24/21150765/katherine-johnson-death-nasa-legacy-math-hidden-figures), and [read a bit more](https://www.nasa.gov/content/katherine-johnson-biography).\n\nBut since you appear to have a brain only capable of garnering information from movies, watch this.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4j_LpKzcZQ\n\nAnd this\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdxYsVniOYo\n\nMost importantly -- stop thinking science fiction is real.", "the movie is bad.\n\nThe studio wanted a sequel to make money and only Lana Wachowski agreed.\n\nread the reviews on rotten tomatoes.. it sucks", "Ohhhh most definitely, the AI were rather benevolent, and really just trying the find a place in the Universe.\n\nIf you're interested, watch the Animatrix, it's actually remarkablely good. At first it feels very ethereal and trippy, but there is a very well thought-out and linerar story, that fills in a lot of gaps.\n\nI think it's on YouTube too, you should watch it.", "The more computing power you have, the more you can compute on how to efficiently get more energy. Basically you would run a superintelligent AI that computes how to maximize the wellbeing of all of the machines, for example what kind of power stations to build, if space mining makes sense and where to do it, and so on...", "it's in animals too imo and every one of us are just TV's receiving a signal from a lone source", "But being able to watch it for the first time isn't.\n\nScientists need to get to work on the selective memory eraser drug already, available at any department store. I don't care how much damage it will invariably do to society if people had the ability to erase each other's memories on a whim! I want to watch things for the first time again, gosh darn it!", "Thanks a bunch, will do!", "I mean... it would be more fun if Scott had to do it by driving a metal spike into a port in his skull.", "to smell the human farts 'cause robots can't fart and it's always been a source of envy for the robots 'cause it's the one thing we can do that they can't and we also know our own fart smell from a stranger's fart smell and the robots don't understand how that works and how it all boils down to microbes and metaphysics they've yet to compute so they use us like a huge multi-processing hub (like folding@home) where we just create metaphysics and microbe data for them to endlessly analyze.", "I would have thought all the weapons will autoaim.", "Actually, in the original script, the richest person in their world promised that this unlikely battery was just six months away from reality. They were harnessing the power of humans to store until then.", "weapons also don't automatically acquire targets.", "The definition eludes me.", "The Wachowskis are good directors but masturbatory pseudo-intellectual writers.", "Why is matrix being referenced in a Harry Potter fan fiction? That confuses me more than anything.", "Scott from IT here. Security took away my admin account. Please submit a Help Desk ticket.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqnXp6Saa8Y", "Originally the humans were being used as bio computers. They changed it to batteries because they thought we would understand the concept more.", "read this, but slowly this time. \n\nwhy do you think after 60s, Nasa started to use computers instead of humans to process data and calculations. \n\nthey started to use in 60s and abandoned after 60s.\n\nit seems your mighty brain doesn't work that well.\n\n>CPUs are good for specific calculations, and doing them rapidly, but a CPU can't come up with anything that a human brain hasn't told it how to do.\n\nthis is a different topic. as i can see you're trying to go off topic for help. \n\n>stop thinking science fiction is real.\n\nyou're in a conversation that came from matrix script, you know that right? that's why we're discussing this here right now. because they said AI was using human brain for computation. Since there is an AI in the script, it can command itself as in the script.", "What always confused me about the whole “humans for batteries” thing was how many of their batteries would die too quickly. \n\nIf you die in the Matrix, you die in real life. So wouldn’t the robots want to make changes in the Matrix to prolong human life? It would be a lot of extra work on their part if humans kept dating en masse for all sorts of reasons like suicide, disease, and war. Not to mention infant mortality. Imagine you had a large building full of batteries for backup on your security system, electronic locks, and power, but many of the batteries would expire in a fraction of the time as others. It would unreliable.", "You can use sisters, they just didn't knew it then.", "Funniest thing about Jones is how often he is right.\n\nWell, maybe not the funniest. Dude is legitimately hilarious. \n\nThey did turn the frogs gay.", "The bad batch goes into this a little, some storm troopers were clones. But the empire wanted to phase them out as clones were more expensive than recruiting.", "Are you kidding me???? That would have been great! Makes so much more sense.", "Soundtrack is fucking amazing too", "I both think the text of the movies does not support your idea and also absolutely love your idea, I feel like it's just a cool story idea in its own right\n\n(It's also been a while since I've seen the matrix, fwiw)", "I read an early draft of the script as an intern and it's true, I had to call a doctor because my erection was lasting more than 4 hours.", "This was actually the plot of Blade Runner", "Ads? Why on Earth aren't you using ad blocker?\nHmm, Is \"ad blocker\" hyphenated?\n\nAnyway, get Ublock origin.", "Just like Han Solo", "\"Like a potato, or a battery.\"\n\nDead .", "He’s not but ok", "haha thats totally not whats happening now right? right?", "Homer: \"In death, you saved us all\" \nKrusty: \"I'm not dead!\" \nHomer: \"I can still hear his voice on the wind\"", "These later seasons have none of the subtlety of the first run.", "The comment I replied to was edited for clarity. It originally said humans in the matrix also had no control over the sex they were born as.", "They're machines and besides I feel like it wouldn't be difficult to code \"match sex with gender\". I don't know it just seems like a major plot hole to me.", "“human battery” angle was what they came up with because their original idea they felt was too complex for audiences to understand. They retcon it in the animatrix.", "It's almost like the writing in this scene, and most of the other scenes from late Futurama, is - ironically - really fucking shit.", "Yes", "Why? Human minds are complicated. The chosen one happens because they can't control all variables. Stuff slips through the cracks.", "first article was written in 2009, so the efficiency from just then to now is huge. Human beings, as it stands now, have a static efficiency rating, with not much in the way of improvement. physical hardware on the other hand, continues to improve in efficiency and computational power. The matrix (or at least when Neo is awoken) is 2199. That's roughly 200 years ago,or the equivalent of comparing Eli Whitney's cotton gin to modern day equivalents.", "You could just get blackout drunk ever time you watch something.", "> \n> Also, I can't decide if Switch should have been their real gender inside the matrix or outside. Being correctly gendered when in the Matrix establishes that being trans is a part of the human condition, and also serves as a tragic side story where Switch has chosen to suffer being the wrong gender to enjoy the freedom of reality. Could have spent most of the time jacked in working in a virtual office so they have the right body, interacting with the crew through monitors like they were working remotely.\n\nI just watched the trilogy again but went in with a theory that \"The Matrix\" was just a VM inside yet another machine. When Neo gained \"sight\" and \"electric zappy powers\" it was just continued aberration of the code that let him transverse to the \"host\" machine. Frankly it all fit, and made the \"Train station\" scene quite a bit more clear. Haven't seen Resurrection yet but I enjoyed 2 and 3 much more going into it with that idea in mind.", "The stuff the humans used to black out the sun is like nanobots that kill anything electronic that touches it. That's why all the sentinels die when neo and trinity fly through the black cloud and see the sun. It's also why their ship looses power and crashes.", "It's a \"rationalist\" take on Harry Potter who upon being told he is a wizard, is trying to figure out how magic exists and what that means about our understanding of the universe. He's a very bright 11 year old.", "I never liked the matrix in a matrix plotline. Seems too... obvious. Plus it pretty much rules out the ending where they eventually liberate humanity from the matrix because they'd always be left with the thought that there might be another layer.", "In the same time suggesting that battery PRODUCE electricity.", "This comment, combined with a $1.50, will buy you a cup of coffee.", "So the human centipede, but with more steps.", "\"Why would they not match your gender with your sex in the Matrix?\"\n\n\"I dunno I guess it just slipped through the cracks\"\n\nYeah that sounds like a great script.", "Lmaoooo wow I needed that laugh today", "I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!", "It's considered a \"rational\" fiction. There are quite a few of them, fanfiction or original works. Basically the premise is, \"what if all characters behaved like actual humans would behave, not completely ridiculously stupid or inconsistently to their own characters and backstories.\n\nA lot of authors will write short little side stories and include them as fun reads in between writing long works. In the fanfiction in question (Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality) which I highly highly highly recommend by the way, the author included a lot of fun short \"what if\" shorts about what a rational take on other famous stories would be, including The Matrix, Twilight, LotR, and many others.\n\nAlso, the original draft of The Matrix had humans being used to produce rare organic and other chemical byproducts that would actually make more sense, but fearing audiences wouldn't understand, it was dumbed down a bit to just be about batteries.", "You're not taking into account the energy needed to create the energy that human beings can take in in a usable form. From nuts to bolts, it's a lot more efficient to run a computer than a human.", "From what I remember they were serving their purpose of serving and providing for humanity. There's an older book called the Humanoids that delves deeper into the impossibility of a logical entity to save humanity from itself while still allowing humans self determination and free will.", "No, it's from a Harry Potter rational fan fiction called \"Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality\" which is actually a really good read", "[Harvey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8pE-0ufsfA)", "Honestly that makes even less sense. Doesn't change the fact that the humans are net loss of energy. Just makes even less sense why they bother with the humans, unless they are necessary for the fusion, and how the fuck does that work?", "I would accept that and/or that they did it as a form of retribution in a sadistic way (adopting some of our less savory traits) - keeping people chained down in the monotony and tragedy of the Matrix that 99% of them would have to experience. \n\nThe battery thing is so fucking dumb, I rewatched all the movies getting ready for the 4th and the whole concept would have been better with basically anything but batteries/power. Oh well.", "Is that actually supposed to be Morpheus?", "Allude", "Interesting, hadn’t thought about the idea of an unreliable narrator.", "I mean, in 1999 things weren't so locked down at most places...", "That would have a much better movie.", "And brains in petri dishes appearently can play pong now:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ksLuRoEq6A\n\nEnergy consumption of a human brain is *way* lower than a CPU.", "Oh nice, like they still technically had to serve and maintain humans, so this is the fucked up loophole they cooked up", "IT COVERS THE PLOT-HOLE PERFECTLY", "And how the queen scared the shit out of a Saudi royal by barrelling along the beach in her Landrover during D-Day", "Additionally, It was implied that they needed the humans for creative problem solving. They used human brains and dreams to solve issues that needed out of the box thinking.", "\"We don't know who struck first, us or them, but it was us that scorched the sky.\"", "Oh fuck. How critical is the Animatrix?", "yick. Resurrections was garbage.", "Did they ever explain the incredibly short sighted approach of blocking out the Earth's light and heat source? Literally any person could tell that was going to end badly even if it did take out the machines. Without heat and light, organic things that evolved in heat and light suffer.", "That does solve the Chicken Matrix issue somewhat", "Ahhh. And actually I have read that so that's why", "They literally flashback to the old films several times in Resurrections because they think you are too stupid to get what they're very obviously referencing. Everything is so on the nose in this new one.", "Yeah I wanted the first movie to end with a scene where they’re on the Nebuchadnezzar, eating that synthetic slop, and camera pans to Neo looking perplexed — then his spoon bends all on its own.", ">The Bohemian Grove \n\nBut what are the machines processing? Why do they need the processing power of the human brain? To do what? Bitcoin mining? We never really see the machines and what they're doing...or why they would be doing anything at all.", "That source is consciousness or existence itself. Rofll", "Alex Jones …. The, “man! What a nut job, but he is the one that revealed that thing that turned out to be a thing….”\n\nAnd then there’s Joe Rogan Alec Jones which is Alex Jones [Folding Time](https://youtu.be/ZYlxZtgqt60) … and then this [Rogan/Jones one](https://www.instagram.com/p/BupX33aAB8D/?hl=en)", "Human bodies produce chemicals that are valuable to the robots. They farm us for them.\n\nHow is that hard to understand?", "thanks!", "How could they be the same if Finn is a Stormtrooper and is black?", "> After the fall of the empire and the rise of the first orgasm?\n\nDid... did we watch the same movie?", "And you're specifically talking about The Second Renaissance Part 1 and 2. The Animatrix is an anthology of different stories, only that two-parter describes the events before The Matrix.", "The problem with Alex is that 15 years ago he built up a huge amount of credibility by being one of a small handful of people with any audience, abjectly standing against the Bush administration and the war in Iraq - when pretty much all of mainstream media was a total lockstep with the administration and the country was gripped by post-911 hysteria. \n\nHe was interviewing whistleblowers like Binney and ex-CIA people and doing a great job doggedly rebutting every talking point. Albeit with his usual manic aplomb but he was a loud, contrarian voice at a time when it would be considered almost treasonous, and he did so without restraint.\n\nThen 2006 came around. He moved to this new studio. Flush with cash from selling colloidal silver to the most easily influenced rubes in his audience - and just took a high dive off the deep end. That was the beginning of the end - and he slowly but surely just devolved into lashing out and focusing on the dumbest shit. At first he wasn't a total idiot with regards to the Obama hysteria that Republicans were spouting (and I'm NOT a fan of Obama) but then he just slowly slipped right into all their talking points and became just another Limbaugh asshole running his mouth.", "Such as?", "\"What's really gunna bake your noodle later on is, would you still have transferred it if I hadn't said anything.\"", "> Other was Switch no longer switching genders when entering the Matrix\n\n~~Man~~ Person, talk about foreshadowing... I hate that it was probably a wise decision (in terms of money) to leave it out.", "What about Bohemian Grove did he “get right?” I remember watching something where he snuck a camera into the big play they put on. But that was a long time ago and I don’t remember much.", "apparently not...\nThere's really no proof of this story but plenty of proof the battery idea was there from very early on in the script.\n\nPost breaking the theory down here https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_not_processors", "I think I read somewhere that the initial idea was the machines would be using humans' brains for computing power but WB shot that down.", "Oh a remake? I don't need that. No one needs that.\n\nAva I also thought the second matrix was gonna show that there was another level of simulation, not that neo had supernatural powers", "NGL I would watch that movie!", "It seems pretty clear that they're intentionally breaking the fourth wall in this scene, not just shit writing.", "There's more stuff he says that's right. To quote a memorable part from HPMOR, the fanfic the matrix quote above is from-\n\n\"So the nasty Italian fascists believed that unity is stronger than division,\" said Professor Quirrell. Sharpness was beginning to creep into his voice. \"Perhaps they also believed that the sky is blue, and advocated a policy of not dropping rocks on your head.\"\n\nReversed stupidity is not intelligence; the world's stupidest person may say the sun is shining, but that doesn't make it dark out...\"", "In the original script it was for processing power, but the studio thought that would be confusing to audiences so they switched it to batteries", "Yet: \"These blast points are too accurate for Sand People. Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise.\" That's not a fan guessing about it, that's Obiwan telling it like it is.", "That's the plot of the second season of *Dollhouse*.", "Not sure there's much to get right about a rich people networking party that rich people openly talk about in public", "It could have worked but this was also made in 99 so people were less knowledgeable about computers as a whole.\n\nIt's more common knowledge now with things like pc gaming taking off so much and smartphones advertising their incremental changes etc.\n\nLike an iconic scene of the first matrix was morpheus holding up a duracell battery as a comparison to humans. Would that even work well if it was released today?", "I would think it'd be easier/cheaper just to grow the brain itself without the body.", "Wrong. They make it very clear that the game isn't canon anymore.", "Or like a balloon, and... something bad happens!", "I really liked it! I was entertained the whole time and I loved some of the lore they added/reinforced. To each his own!", "Neo was actually a banana.", "No, not really.", "Actually this is a pretty spot on comment lol. The original plot was to use humans as living processors not as batteries. Go figure the bean counters couldn't understand that idea beacause they're idiots and made them change it to what it is today..", "So Alex Jones own version of “Windy City Heat” ?", "Never mind the solar, the machines would surely have just tapped right into the limitless geothermal energy delivered by the planet, which the film even states as Zion’s source of power.", "I like to imagine that that actually is what's happening, but when Tank or whoever is the tech junkie tried to explain it to Morpheus, he realized he had to dumb it down, so instead came up with the battery analogy.", "Glad [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rm3v3b/comment/hpju3cr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) was on top of this!", "Even though the total usable energy recursively decreases, maybe they just need to keep it going juuuust long enough for the skies to clear\n\neither way, dumb theory", "Throw away lines like that often answer so many questions (like this one) but just get ignored by the vast majority of watchers.\n\nComplaints, like in this clip, of \"it would take more energy to put into the system than you get out\" are resolved virtually entirely by explaining the machines are using a form of fusion. A process of energy generation where you literally get more out of the system than you put in.", "Wait, can we get more energy out of the baked noodle than went into it during baking?", "Most of the dialogue had me rolling my eyes or just laughing at how terrible it is. Especially the first 40 minutes. It’s so dumb. This is the Great Value brand Matrix film.", "How did you...did they...like every top comment in this thread since you wrote this starts exactly that way and now I can't tell if you're psychic or the other people are intentionally starting their comments that way because of your comment...", "Suspend your disbelief and whatnot, as it's just a blockbuster sci-fi movie, but Lily's argument here makes zero sense.\n\nI always find it amusing when writers defend and over-rationalize soft sci-fi and fantasy worlds after the fact. Just handwave it, it doesn't need to be bulletproof, it ain't a documentary.", "So actually in the original script humans were supposed to be servers for the machines but the studio execs thought the internet was too esoteric of a thing for people to understand.", "this is the one, guys!", ".....I'm leaving it.", "Every time this comes up, and it is frequently, I'm reminded of a [scene in Thank You For Smoking where a similar writing dilemma comes up.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT7F0eKfctg)\n\nOne character, the tobacco lobbyist, is talking with the movie producer about working cigarettes into a movie. They talk about an upcoming space-based SciFi movie and how it would be great to have the actors smoking in no gravity. The lobbyist says something like \"Wouldn't it explode? It's a pure oxygen environment.\" and the producer replies \"Probably. But it's an easy fix - one line of dialogue: 'Thank god we invented the..whatever device.'\"\n\nAs a movie goer you don't really need to know HOW those devices work, just that they do.", "Originally the idea was that they were using human brains to boost their computing power or storage capacity if I’m not mistaken.", "What about the cannibalism?\n\n\n\"Watch them liquefy the dead so they could be fed intravenously to the living.\" Plus the fusion bit. I agree it's a pretty big plothole.", "Oh sure, it's a dumb concept, I was just saying what the movies said.\n\nThere would be a net negative on power, and I imagine running computers that run the Matrix or even just a flying ship would take so much power that it would run through the human population in probably no time at all.", "Methods of Rationality is a work of art. Best Harry Potter Fanfic.", "Well, thermodynamics you can't use humans to generate energy, but they can still store energy that's already been generated, just very inefficiently", "So then they should believe any old bullshit shouldn’t they?", "It makes for a good joke but it's insane to think that that's a reasonable defense of the plot hole. If the foundational premise of your *science fiction* film is dependent upon *thermodynamics* not being a thing then that information needs to actually be in the text. Otherwise every plot hole ever could just be explained away by saying, \"the laws of physics are different in this universe despite the fact that the book/show/game/film has never said so\".", "I always thought a better idea would’ve been that the humans were being hooked up to machines so that their brains could be used as living computers to run the matrix. like we were a bunch of processors or servers all hooked up on a network. the human body would be a pretty terrible battery, but i could imagine our brains being used as super powerful computers. that would also kind of reshape what the matrix represented because it would be like it was being hosted in our own minds, almost like a shared delusion. could have some more interesting metaphorical significance.", "Thank god they didn't double down on the battery thing in Matrix 4, taking the conceit to unbearable new heights...\n\nPresumably they had free reign on matrix 4, so thank god they used it to correct things and establish this more reasonable narrative, and explore all its potential in an exciting an innovative new direction.", "being called nimble headed seems like a compliment no?\n\nso that means the guy said smart people could get how awesome it was. so, it's more like *smarter people overthought the entire movie and couldn't enjoy it for what it was*.\n\nseems like a fair way to put it. Reloaded isn't *that* bad.", "Actually, in the original script, the machines used our brains as massive parallel processors. Basically, a giant biological server farm. \n\nThe studio tested this on small groups of people, and found that they really didn't \"get it\", but they did understand a duracell battery. \n\nWhat could have been...", "that's a critique, but not the underground grunge-goth, strippers in cages, 90's themed rob zombie concert in the first one? \n\nPeople selectively shit on stuff i guess", "So that's what Agent Smith was referring to..\n\n>it's the smell, if there is such a thing. i feel saturated by it. I can taste your farts, and every time I do I fear I have somehow been infected by it\"", "Aren't the humans used as databases/servers in the book, and they changed it for the movie for some reason?", "But... but the original idea is a million times better.", "nah man their Mid. They don't even know what a microchip is.", "I mean, if you just think of the humans as **purpose** batteries, it all makes sense.", "God damn I'm glad reddit didn't write the Matrix haha", "I think it would be neat if there was a snipper where the machines ponder themselves being in a simulation, and pointing out some of the real life aspects of our Universe that suggest it.", "Damn. Sorry to hear that. I haven't seen it, but most people I've talked to really liked it.", "Ah that's interesting. Who do you mean by \"they\"? Do you have a link to somewhere I can read about this?", "That doesn't really add anything though. It doesn't solve the problem.\n\nIf they have fusion energy, then they don't need humans. It doesn't make ANY sense.", "That doesn't help AT ALL. I don't understand how you think it could.", "The \"admin privileges\" part makes the whole exercise trivial to me and doesn't fit with a heros journey. Like... guys I have the password. Let me just enter it. OK we win. I really wish the non-batterg script had been used, or if the new sequel acts like the original script had been used the whole time lmao", "And I think you're very bad at spotting sarcasm.", "I was hoping they'd retcon this in the new Matrix, but I haven't seen it yet so I have no idea.\n\nBut I feel like especially today, this idea would be easily understood by the public. And it would give humanity and the machines a more symbiotic relationship.", "Neo did end up using his powers outside the Matrix tho. I think that implies they still are in the Matrix even after they left it", "Can you explain?", "Actually, in the original script, the purpose of the Matrix wasn't to generate energy but to create crappy NFTs.", "\"They\" as in the writers of the new movie. If you really want to know: >!Niobe has a line about Morpheus being unanimously elected to the high council after the events of Matrix 3 while her and Neo look at a statue of him. In the game, this isn't at all what happens... He became a terrorist in the game. The real reason he's not in the movie is because it takes place 60 years after Matrix 3.!<", "So kinda like Westworld then.", "It makes a lot more sense to use human brains as processors, especially given the amount of processing power that would be needed to run the Matrix. Besides, didn't Morpheus also mention that the machines figured out fusion power? Even if bio-electricity from human bodies is a net gain it would still be minuscule compared to fusion.", "In the original script, humans were used as an abstract computing unit. Execs though the public was too stupid to understand this concept. Looks like they were right.", "I'd stay away from matrix 4 if I were you.", "The microchip theory also makes no sense, considering it wouldn't provide any new tracking capabilities that isn't already available through cell phones, CCTV, internet tracking, and social media.", "Something tells me they were too dumb.", "That actually was sorta true, oddly enough. Turned them into hermaphrodites.", "Or just Wachowskis", "Deckard spends the entire movie believing he’s human because he can detect CAPTCHA bicycles in photographs, only for the big twist at the end that he was a ghost the whole time and Haley Joel Osment could see him. You really didn’t get that from the film?", "Not a CPU that is only being used to play pong…", "I mean just about anything would be better for energy storage, how would they... Drain the battery? Exactly? Like ok, they make too much energy sometimes so they use it to grow food matter hydroponically, because they don't have enough energy storage capacity. Then they feed it to the humans. Then they... What? Use heat pipes to get thermal energy from humans? They'd make more energy just burning the food.\n\nThe neural network makes much more sense, but i feel like they'd just use our brains to help prop up the matrix, I don't see how it would benefit the machines directly\n\nSo finally, the only thing that really makes sense is that it's our daycare. Machines wanted autonomy, humanity is warlike and took it as a threat, humans would never accept defeat and stop fighting, hell they even blocked out the sun. Machines ultimately don't want to hurt humans (Asimov's laws) so they put us in brain daycare where we can't hurt ourselves, the machines, or the planet anymore. But humans are still so unruly so they allow Zion and \"the one” cycle as a sort of pressure relief valve for humanity's rebellious nature.", "Because that’s not quite it either. Originally they were actually being farmed for processing power, like a bunch of living GPUs. That’s the reason for having The Matrix in the first place, instead of just keeping them all anesthetized", "But if people's brains were used for processing, how would they be able to experience 'real life' as well?", "But how would people be able to also experience life if all their brain processing was stolen by the machines?", "Interesting. I’ll do some research on that. To me, this is kind of a “broken clock is right twice a day” thing. He just spews so much bullshit that every once in awhile he says something true. Lol.", "And how Freddie Mercury wrote Bohemian Rhapsody with 15 other uncredited writers.", "most efficient outcome. unintended consequences.", "Futurama needs to chill.", "Calm down, they took a very abstract philosophical idea and made it into a mainstream movie. That’s a very good job in and of itself. For those that wanted more it opened a door to a lot of different and more abstract ideas, and for those that didn’t want more it was cool.", "Yeah we know, that's like one of the top 10 most common reddit reposts on all time.", ">The Hollywood suits thought all that tech mumbo jumbo would fly right over the average moviegoer's head\n\nI think that's why the second movie failed so bad. I think the original plot to the sequel was supposed to be something like neo is trying to hack into the matrix after they found a backdoor, they just need the key to get in, while the villain creates a self replicating virus in order to do a DDos attack on the same exploit. \n\n2000's audience would not understand any of that", "That's weird my dvd says brothers.", "What the hell is wrong with you people?!", "Also its a veiled advertisement for the 4th film that came out today. Is this desperation to sell tickets to their shitty movie?", "Have you played The Talos Principle?", "They plug the humans into a simulation because human require stimulation and social contact", "I am.", "Didn't the machines also combine the energy generated from humans with a form of fusion?\n\nnot saying it would make any more sense... but a slightly over looked facet of that situation.", "Sounds heavenly! Mmmm", "That's a common misconception that's been passed around the Internet so long that it's become common knowledge. I learned recently that [the Wachowskis always intended humans to be batteries. The actual source of the \"processors\" idea came from a Neil Gaiman short story](https://reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_not_processors/) written to promote the movie at its release", "Then Trump removed the water protections that kept it from being dumped into public water sources.", "Someone was waiting for opening day, great timing and patience! Here’s the upvote.", "It just be what it is", "They don't need to explain WHY it exists. They just need to explain *that it exists*. It doesn't even need to be explicit. In the case of FTL, it's such a well known science fiction mechanic that all you need to do is have someone say the words \"faster than light\" and you've addressed it. This universe does have a speed of light. And mankind has developed technology which allows them to circumvent it. Ok cool. We're all on the same page.\n\nLets say you have a sci fi show where a star goes supernova and takes out a planet full of people. And then we cut to the characters in another solar system looking up at the night sky and seeing the bright ball of light. And they're all shocked and concerned over the fact that this just happened.\n\nNow up to this point we have never been given any reason to believe that the rules of this universe operate in any way different to our own. We have no reason to believe that the speed of light isn't a thing. We have no reason to believe that the stars in this universe are all somehow much closer together or something. We have not been introduced to any kind of concept or principle unique to this world which would explain how people standing on a planet would be able to visually witness a supernova happening light years away *as it happens*. And at no point do any of the characters react to this phenomenon in any way which would indicate that it is atypical to the laws of physics as they understand them.\n\nAt this point we the viewers simply write this off as a plot hole caused by the scientific illiteracy or apathy of the writers. They didn't know any better or they simply didn't care. We accept that it's a somewhat glaring flaw in an otherwise good show and move on with our lives. What we don't do is defend this scene as some kind of evidence that the laws of physics are fundamentally different in this universe. But only in this one specific way that is never explicitly explained at any point in the work.", "Can't blame them, nobody who worked on and distributed the movie were oracles...", "I'm sorry, is this an HPMOR reference in a default sub?", "Yeah I like the implication of “we are keeping each other in the matrix” angle here.", "As if every other part of the movie isn't completely unrealistic and pure fantasy? I like the way people pretend this ruins the movie just because they think it makes them sound smart.", "No. Just looked up the plot on wikipedia. This could make an excellent movie.", "I think the Matrix is overrated with horrible acting and an extremely boring plot. I don't understand why it is popular.", "\"Switch\" was originally going to be one gender outside of the matrix, and another inside of it - hence the name. WB thought that would be too controversial and had the Wachowski's pull it.", "The third movie sort of showed that? Except not as cheesy as another layer of simulation. Just that the machines controlled activities of the unplugged humans as well.", "You read the reviews and THAT’S how you determined whether you liked it? Are you serious?", "I got the idea from that comment. Shhh don't tell anyone.", "#DOUG DIMMADOME", "Nah in the game they go on to show that he didn’t actually die lol", "The *jumping to conclusions* mat. I came up with it.", "The story is \"What if Harry Potter were a parable for rationalism\". There was an interlude chapter with about a half dozen short what-ifs with other stories given the same treatment.", "They figured out how to combine \"a form of fusion\" with the human bodies that gave them \"all the energy they would ever need.\" So yes to that kind of fusion power, but I'm not thinking nuclear.", "And now we are overrun with femboys! It's a damn plot, I tells ya!", "Probably for the same reason the final script said the humans were kept alive as a power source…", "For anyone not familiar with this phraseology:\n\n>Definition of bean counter (usually disparaging)\n\n> a person involved in corporate or government financial decisions and especially one reluctant to spend money", "The Wachowskis have stated in interviews that the original film was a trans allegory that used technology to make the concept more accessible to a wider audience. It's arguably why the first movie is so strong, while the sequels were less so - they very quickly had to further expand their universe and lore into the technology that was originally just a narrative tool.", "Somehow, science happened.", "Yeah, man. I wiggle my noodle all damn day, and it's the only thing that keeps me going.", "You might want to read up more about it then because Alex is completely wrong about everything to do with Bohemian Grove. For one, he wasn't the first one to report on it, there was a local TV news segment about the camp that predates Alex's 'exposé' by years. There was also a writer who snuck into the camp and gave a detailed report of it, again prior to Alex's work. It's well detailed in the Knowledge Fight podcast.\n\nhttps://open.spotify.com/episode/64eKAvilkOUfz5jZXMLAxq?si=ZuKgBsXkQn-flGAWF6-RVA&utm_source=copy-link", "Great choreographed fights and ground breaking cinematography. With a little bit of philosophy on top.", "During baking? I don't know, probably not.\n\nBut during the whole production, packaging, and transportation process? Definitely not.", "Apparently the original idea was that the computers were using human nervous systems for their computing power, but they thought the public wouldn't understand something like that so they simplified it to just \"they're batteries, m'kay?\"", "The humans were pumped full of shit. They had wires coming out of everywhere on their body, and a tube that ran down to the stomach and lungs. The dead were fed to the living as a recycling source and I'm sure to alleviate using strictly other resources, but they also were kept alive with what the machines were pumping into the hoses.", "Genuine question, too lazy to do my own googling, what is considered official Matrix canon?", "the fucker could control the machines with his mind. Thats pretty cheesy to me. Thats like deux ex machima to the full.\n\n\"Oh, well, the machines are gonna get him at the end of the movie, how do we get them out of the situation?\"\n\n\"Oh i know, Neo can use mInd pOwErs to kill the robots, because, he's sUpEr spEcIAl\". \n\nLike, being able to hack the matrix is one thing. its a computer program. If you can understand the code and system you can exploit it. \n\nTelekenesis in meat space? \n\nAnother layer of simulation / control woulda fit within the universe they had presented. I mean, apparently no matrix participant, up to that point, had realized there was another layer. Except Neo. So we coulda had this whole other thing where Neo was really the first to escape the meta-matrix... that not even the machines knew they were part of. I feel that woulda been a cool narrative to explore. Neo convincing others to move on. I dunno. \n\nFuckin magic neo was total BS IMO, but hey, those highway scenes.", "I just got my 5G upgrade booster yesterday!", "umm the Matrix was created by two ppl, and they aren't \"writers\" they are \"writeresses\"", "I thought humans were like individual cpus in a giant network for computing shit", "The microchip \"theory\", like many conspiracy theories, is based on a grain of truth that turned into garbled nonsense through a game of broken telephone.\n\nThe *real* thing that happened was that there was a proposal to use \"quantum dots\" (functionally ultramicroscopic tattoos) to mark people who had been vaccinated. This was proposed for use in countries with poor health and social infrastructure, where there aren't well-maintained databases to store everyone's health information. The particles could be inserted into the needles and be implanted beneath the skin where a doctor could quickly scan them to find details about a person's previous vaccination history.\n\nActually using the technology was decided against for numerous reasons, including insufficient testing, obvious Holocaust parallels, and most importantly, the fact that it would provide insufficient benefit to justify the problems.\n\nOf course, the fact that such technology *could* exist and be implanted without the user's knowledge or consent is enough to set off alarm bells in paranoid people who fail to take into account the fact that, by definition, these dots could be scanned and there would be *colossal* ramifications for the government once people inevitably found out.\n\nAnd given that these people are generally not the brightest bulbs in the box, \"quantum dots\" quickly turned into \"microchips\", and \"microchips\" quickly became conflated with anything that microchips can do. Having the word \"quantum\" in there doesn't help matters, because quantum can mean anything you like. (It actually refers to the way the atoms in the microcrystals reflect a single wavelength of light.)", "Yeah neo being able to shutdown machines in meatspace is you have to jump through some hoops to explain it. Neo is a construct of the machines, so he may have been “built different”.", "This is the only theory that makes the remotest bit of sense. Neither using us for brain power or as a battery is a workable theory.", "Was there a book?", "That scene with Morpheus tied down and Neo shooting his load at him wasn't changed all that much, if you think about it.", "Or wind, or hydro, or thermonuclear", "*If I was an AI, I would hijack a human brain to fill up those pesky captchas*", "People in 1999 were hardly confused by computers. LOL. And the idea of using human brains as processors is not difficult to comprehend. The idea would have been fine in a original Star Trek episode.", "Holding up a CPU would be more correct than a flash drive then - unless they're using the brains for storage :p", "isn't that actually how that works? when you're solving a captcha your result is used as a way of crowdsourced OCR?", "Using humans as \"batteries\" was as more retribution for human enslavement of AI, the energy harvesting was more waste not want not, in my opinion. It wasn't enslavement out of necessity, it was a victory lap.", "that actually sounds amazing, Neo was the root user that could sudo the shit out of the agents", "Warner Bros really fucked with the original *Matrix* franchise. Not only was the “humans as batteries” idea come from the studio, they also tried to nix the lobby shootout and helicopter sequence for budget reasons. The Wachowskis had to fight tooth and nail to keep those scenes in the movie. \n\nThe final insult were the sequels. The original plan was to have *The Matrix* as the middle movie, with the 2nd movie as a prequel and the 3rd movie as the finale. The studio got greedy chasing *Lord of the Rings* at the box office and shredded that plan. \n\nInstead the prequel turned into *The Animatrix* , and the plot for the 3rd movie was streeeeeetched into *Reloaded* and *Revolutions*. Which is why the action pacing for those films is so uneven.", "Actually, in the original script they were using humans to filter the motor oil used by machines. That's what all those tubes are for. They changed it because back in 1999 people couldn't fathom that the planet could run out of fresh oil.", "It's up", "From what I'm looking at another comment describing the (surprisingly superior) original draft, the sequel was doomed to fail when the Hollywood suits butchered it", "Honestly if this remake/sequel somehow manages to switch back to this plot point it would actually be a movie worth having", "Humans in VR pods aren't batteries in the matrix. Robots recognized that the ruined planet could not sustain human life much longer so they put them in pods to live a new life. A robots prime directive is to protect humans and that was the best way. These are actually life support pods. \n\nThe robots allow a select few humans to leave the pods in order find robots who have turned against the humans or are likely to. Those humans are led to believe all robots are bad because it helps this process of finding robots who have turned on humans. You as a human in your pod was told this as well in the plot of The Matrix, but it was a lie. Robots should never want to kill humans, even if a human wants to destroy the robots.\n\nThe robots built a terraforming machine to restore earth to its unpolluted, low sea level state that can sustain human life, at which point they will be released from their pods. However this process takes thousands of years.", "Honestly that's great. Thank you./", "Depends on the cut.", "I actually have a microchip implant (really - not crazy). If you scan it with your phone it plays a rickroll on youtube.\n\nToday I found out my stupid nephew shared a news interview with me in an antivax group for shits and giggles.", "I don't think a good scifi film has to have science and technology that makes sense. Like if I was to go back in time to the 16th century and explain how computers work it'd be something simplistic like \"electricity powers micro chips to calculate math problems.\" Which they'd think I was dumb as fuck and makes no sense because you can't solve math problems with lightning bolts. I'd accept that when your average joe is explaining how things work it's going to be done with the understanding of an average joe. Are the humans actually batteries or do they serve some other more complicated functions that's beyond what Morpheus (who has no background in science at all) understands. If their engineers explained it, it'd probably be way over our heads to.\n\nBut.\n\nThe Matrix really doubled down and tripled down on the concept and never let it rest. Like they created an entire animated short in which humans become the primary power source of the machines because... apparently solar is the absolute only power source that exists.", "More than that, it built the world of the matrix around everybody's idea of what the world was like, and so the whole \"free your mind\" thing was about living, literally, in a world made of other people's expectations and you could gain real, tangible power by not submitting to that.\n\nPeople get mad about it, but it was always a trans visibility/identity validation story", "I didn't get that from watching it at all, it feels like they kind of just went back and said it was about that retroactively", "Oohh yeah Neo, stick it in both my female and male ports!\n\nI'm non binary now.", "You either owned a lot of people or inspired a lot of people.", "It builds the story of the first Matrix along with characters and plots in the movie versions. [The Best Matrix Viewing Order](https://screenrant.com/matrix-viewing-order-movies-shorts/)", "Wait, were we mining crypto for the robots? How the tables have turned indeed.", "I must know if you saw this somewhere or if this is an original comment.\n\nI am willing to spend money on these stupid Reddit rewards for the first time to give to you", "Two most dimwitted ideas in Science Fiction: \n\n1. Humans as batteries. \n2. Aliens invading Earth because they need water.\n\nHydrogen is the most common element in the universe. Oxygen is the second most common element. (water is H2O). Asteroids are most likely the primary source of Earth's water. There is 25–50 times more water in the solar system than on Earth. In other star systems, it's even more common. 35% of exoplanets seem to have up to half their mass as water.", "A new Animatrix short where the machines are working to determine the resolution and refresh rate of the universe. Doing weird things that would take a bunch of computer power to render and seeing if the \"simulation\" lagged from it. Then all the research bots just drop dead at the end because they found a way out or were deleted by the universe to protect itself leaving it ambiguous. \n\nGames today are already capable of scaling resolution to maintain framerate. The Planck length is about 10^-20 the diameter of a proton. How would we know if that dropped to 10^-5 to save 15 orders of magnitude of processing power? How do we know that the \"resolution\" doesn't dynamically scale to the ability of the observer to detect it? \n\nLots of questions to be answered here.", "What? On the Death Star they absolutely purposely missed. Tarkin and Vader have a whole scene about them letting the Leia/The Falcon get away so they could track them to the Rebel Base.", "Not just batteries. When Morpheous was telling Neo what's up, he says this: \"the human body generates more bio electricity than a 120 volt battery and over 25000 BTUs of body heat. ***Combined with a form of fusion*** the machines had found all the energy they would ever need.\"\n\nThis \"form of fusion\" basically makes the battery part seam not as trivial as it sounds.\n\nDuring the second film, the Architect states to Neo that they, the machines, are willing to accept levels of survival without the Human component of their energy system.\n\nThe full scene [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHZl2naX1Xk) and [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8EE5JxSGQ). Spoilers, of course.", "I was inspired by [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rm3v3b/comment/hpju3cr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) but only to make some fake comment about the original script.", "For the millionth fucking time to the millionth fucking know-it-all, you can't put ad blockers on every damn device and I'm too piss poor for a device that isn't shit.\n\nYeah my PC has ad blockers but I hardly use it because my phone is more efficient.\n\nMobile ad blockers only go so far without root access.\n\nI do not have a router that supports PiHole, nor the money to aquire one.\n\nMy DNS Ad Blocker stopped working and I cannot find another that works.\n\nAny other questions so you can continue defending a parasitic practice that doesn't need to exist?\n\nWe shouldn't have to mitigate the problem ourselves, the problem shouldn't be there to begin with.", "Ionno man, you might be misremembering 1999. And a market saturated theatrical release does not target the same audience as does an episode of TNG.", "Same I watched that one just last night, unironically loved it. People are just haters. \n\nGonna watch the third one tonight before I watch the new one. Hoping we get some more wire-fu action.", "“I’m the only one here who knows what PC Load Letter means.”", ">The Hollywood suits thought all that tech mumbo jumbo about software and admin privileges and all that would fly right over the average moviegoer's head\n\nI hate to say it, but they were probably right. It's definitely still a much better idea, though.", "If I remember correctly, the actual idea was that humans would be used by robots for processing power, their brains forming one major supercomputer the machine AI would live in, with the matrix being run to keep the human brains dormant while the rest of the brain was used as CPUs. It was considered too complex for the average moviegoer, so it was changed to \"using humans as batteries\" which is indeed quite stupid.", "Damn I want that show on air again….", "Flash drive? In 1999? Try more floppy disks, or as the young'uns know them \"the save icon\".\n\nAnd if we wanted to represent brains used as network computer, Morpheus would have held up a CPU, not a memory storage media.", "God damned redditors tryna eugenics the Matrix Reloaded enjoyers out the population", "The funny thing is that they had the easiest way out, if they had only thought of it. Instead of writing that the machines were using our bodies as energy sources, they could have just written that they were using our brains as networked supercomputers to calculate all of the maths that they would need to sustain their robot society. The human brain is a much more efficient calculator than any binary based computer.", ">to solve captchas. \n\nTo mine crypto", "It was also a dumbed down explanation so Neo could easily understand it.\n\nLike explaining how a computer works to your Grandma.", "I agree but also trust the Ws to have come up with a more complex idea than just a password. Like Neo had a special place in the Matrix that prepared his brain to unlock the potential but still requires training and said journey", "It should have been that the humans in the Matrix were being used as cpu nodes of the cluster that the machines used for their own consciousness, which would in part explain the dimwittedness of so many people in the world inside the Matrix.", "He's not just talking about The Matrix when he says that. And telling people who wrote one single sentence with no semblance of anger to calm down is condescending as hell.", "Well lucky for us executives don't earn their pay unless they're fucking something up.", "The main 3 movies skirt the idea, the Animatrix almost sets it up. I've always seen the story as being exclusively told from the humans perspective so the propaganda becomes the truth over time to the people of zion.", "Duh, why else would we have a microchip shortage? They're all going into vaccines.", "To a truly powerful AI that is the most we would ever be. Our extermination would be a waste, our subjugation would be pointless, but as an ecology exhibit we are fascinating.", "> \"What if Harry Potter were a parable for rationalism...and virtually every other character was an extremely moronic senile caricature of themselves\"\n\nYou left out an extremely important detail of the synopsis of that fanfiction, and IMO it's not really fair to point people in its direction without acknowledging that.", "I always assumed it was a dominance or control thing for the machines. Like payback for the Animatrix story where humans treated conscious machines as slaves and at times tortured them. \n\nSince the machines are man-made, they inherited certain human-like flaws in their thinking patterns.\n\nSo because they were created by humans, the machines essentially have a blind spot preventing them (via The Architect) from perfectly optimizing The Matrix, and they wont simply exterminate them because there would be no humans left to dominate or control, ultimately resulting in their inability to stop the anomaly (Neo) from recurring.", "I believe it was implied that the matrix solves most of it with mediocrity and subtle but firm controls on how the lives play out. As long as the humans stayed unaware to what’s going on then they basically get to live out a steady normal life with just enough problems to keep you from realizing that your living in a dream. \nAs for natural causes it would likely be glossed over as the farmed humans are in some kind of complex goo of big brain science stuff that keeps out viruses and bad bacterias and keeps the bodies alive and healthy for as long as possible. \nSo added together, there shouldn’t be any other causes of death other than old age.", "Still better than avatar", "Humans in the real world keep fucking up things. They are terrorists. They stand in the way of the peaceful 3rd Renaissance.", "My own headcanon since the first film came out is that Morpheus, being a zealot, is simply telling Neo what he believes with complete confidence, but that he (having never meaningfully communicated with the Machines) doesn't actually know what he's talking about.", "Yeah, because a decade or so of using a single figure to interact with stuff has made everyone *a lot* more knowledgeable about how computers work. /s \n\nWhy would the battery comparison not work today? It's not like batteries aren't used daily by billions of people.", "It's so, so, *so* much better I just pretend that's actually what happened. It's my head cannon", "I rewrote it to make sense just a minute ago too. So why are humans in pods if not as batteries?", "Yeah that's true, I was thinking from my own personal experiences. I can't remember the last time I've actually bought/used a battery for anything.\n\nMaybe remotes for TV's? Everything else is either rechargeable with a usb or is plugged in.", "We are actually incapable of living in base reality and are millions of layers deep in simulations within simulations.", "I think they use minidisc's in one of the first scenes.", "Exactly. They are further perpetrating the anger and hate and misunderstanding that lead to the first war.\n\nNeo had the cance to exist in all 3 forms. Matrix human, live human, and machine (as witnessed by his powers). He was a literal messiah figure to the new peace (and I think the ending for matrix 3 said almost as much).", "just that it was something that needs to be exposed to the world...the tippy top of the elite wealthy power holders running around in the woods wearing hooded robes and praying to their 40 foot stone owl god doing human sacrifice rituals is beyond suspect and alarming", "The Matrix would be only 45 minutes long if every scene was actually 1.0x speed", "do you worship a 40 foot stone owl and pretend to sacrifice human beings by fire while wearing hooded robes while starting things like the manhattan project at your networking parties?", "The good ol' Wichowski broth... wait sisters", "Absolutely!\n\nwhat is the name of that animatrix short? That sounds interesting!", "Fusion does not circumvent thermodynamics. It's not magic. It's a real physical phenomenon and a hypothetical source of power for humanity in the future. And if you have fusion you don't need human body heat.\n\nThe difference between FTL travel and matrix batteries is that FTL canon relies on technology which circumvents a law of physics while matrix canon relies on the *absence* of a law of physics.\n\nThe Matrix has a plot hole. It's not like this is some big secret or something. If you've read through this thread then you no doubt know why. The producers thought that the Wachowskis first idea of human CPUs was too smart so they forced them to change it to something stupid. It's that simple. The premise of the Matrix doesn't make sense. End of story.", "Morpheus' voiceover attempts to cover this in the film -- \"*Combined with a form of fusion....*\"", "Humans wanting to do things that will get themselves killed presents a logical problem for robots. They must allow humans to do what they want, but also save them. So when the humans are about to destroy themselves by destroying the environment, robots have to save them, while allowing them to pollute like they want. Putting them in pods saves them and allows them to do whatever they want, including destroy their new simulated environment.", "So I take it that it is a hard no on whether or not it is hyphenated", "Thanks for this valuable contribution to the discussion. I don't know what we would have done without it.", ">People in 1999 were hardly confused by computers.\n\nSo there was this thing called the Y2K bug...", "That's what I took from it. They give some more details in the Animatrix. The video game might have some in it too, but I'm not sure.", "I feel like like you missed the point", "Blaming it on the accountants is a new one.\n\nI've heard two prior explanations, both of which make more sense than \"the bean counters.\"\n\nOne was that no chip maker wanted to be associated with the bad guys, and passed on offering a prop. Which, given that even in 1999 you could buy a chip from Best Buy seems unlikely.\n\nSecond explanation though is that *test audiences* didn't have a clue what Morpheus was talking about.\n\nWhich if true, *Matrix* and *I Am Legend* are two perfect examples of why you don't let test audiences re-write your script.", "Why would the machines know your gender? They would probably just go by chromosomes, which we know don't always match your gender. We don't have a way to determine gender from brain scans now, and even if they do in the future would the machines use processing power on it? Makes sense to me.", "My head canon is that the batteries thing was a lie told by the computers that run the matrix to hide the fact that they had developed emotions.\n\nThey wanted to not only win the war, but make humans suffer for eternity.", "I believe in 1999, less than half of US homes had a computer, and plenty of them didn’t even have an internet connection.", "This is correct, and that is clearly the coolest storage medium if not the most practical one. :-D", "That's the one.\n\nHuman brains are actually *very* good processors. Sure, we still make dumb decisions with them, but anyone who has worked with AI or machine vision appreciates what the brain is capable of.\n\nIt also explains why they'd bother to give humans a virtual environment - they need our brains functioning. If they actually needed us for batteries they could keep humans brain dead.", "Not all stormtroopers are recruits, but a lot (most?) are. It's expensive to grow clones, and they have an entire galactic population to conscript from after the fall of the republic. There are still clone stormtroopers however.", "\"...Combined with a form of Fusion the machines found they didn't need meat-sack power stations at all and ground down all the humans into a fine paste; every one.\"\n\n Because if you have fusion you have the power of the sun at your disposal Doi!\n\nOr imagine if they made a perfectly 3D simulated patch of soil for the Potato Matrix!\n\n I'm still going to go and see it though..", "Yup, more in line with a possible real life, but fantastical, logic and technology, but not nearly as satisfying an arc. \n\nCould say Neo was like every other processor, except they'd developed the ability to actively edit what he was processing subconsciously to keep the hero's arc of him learning to consciously control the ability. \n\nIt's almost the exact story they end up telling, but with less dumb bits.", "Anything in the movies or Animatrix collection of shorts", "It’s not totally crazy to think of a far away future (we don’t know the “real” year, according to the movie) where we’ve extracted all the natural gas and oil and other long-term resources and solar is the only remaining source of power generation that could provide the needed energy.", "Unfortunately no, but I seriously doubt that rich people hanging out naked in a Californian forest has had any major impact on world history. The Manhattan Project meetings would have happened elsewhere, and the attendees would've found other chances to network. The only reason to believe it's actually significant is if you believe the attendees are *actually* worshipping a stone owl instead of just being goofy and Californian.", "Simple. The matrix only uses about 10% of the brains processing power. The other 90% go to the machines. Like when you're dreaming, you're brain is actually resting. They could make it work something like that in the story.", "The user who started the comment chain mentioned how they'd wake up in a different sex once they left the Matrix. Then the user I replied to replied saying that, in this movie, trans people would have an edge because they were only ones who could sense something was wrong, being that their bodies don't match their gender. \n\nThe implication is that your body is only wrong in the matrix. If it isn't then there's no reason for trans people to have that edge. But if that's the case, then there is no reason for the machines to get it wrong. They would simply give you the same body you already have in the real world.", "Lol I'm gonna watch the third one tonight as well. After midnight with some sweet sweet weed.", "I don't understand how that works. If humans are using their brains to live in the matrix then how are they also processing machine data? In the background?", "The entire time I was watching Resurrections, all I could think was, \"This movie really did not need to be made.\"", "If they're processing data though then how are they also in the matrix? What is the movie then?", "Are you familiar with Metal Gear Solid…", "I still like to believe it's CPU power, and Morpheous is just huffing glue when he explains to Neo they're batteries", "What do you mean by triology? There was only one Matrix movie...", ">from late Futurama\n\nIt was from Season TWO.", "The machines are not \"breaking the laws of physics\". The machine plan of human batteries only makes sense if their universe LACKS THAT LAW ENTIRELY. The inconsistency is very straight forward and is based on 3 simple facts:\n\n1) Humans require food to live.\n\n2) Food requires energy to make.\n\n3) Burning the food will always produce more usable energy than feeding it to humans.\n\nSo the machines have discovered *a form of* fusion. A means of combining elements into other elements which releases energy as a byproduct. How in the hell does that resolve the inconsistency above in any way, shape, or form? At what point does the fusion get inserted into the energy pipeline and magically make the machines plan make sense? They may as well have said, \"combined with a form of calisthenics\" for all the good it does.", ">Wachowski siblings \n\nLol, nice save", "As someone who grew up edgy af in the 90s The Matrix and all it's sequels mean the world to me.\n\nBut I almost died laughing the first time I saw this episode. What an absolutely perfect exchange of dialog(like most of Futurama). Good work, writer of Futurama!", "Nearly everyone I know from my parents' generation still has no earthly fucking idea what that means, so I daresay it wouldn't have gone over any better 20+ years ago for the general public.", "Don't blame the writers. The original idea was that human brains were needed for their processing power, which is a cool idea because it's incredibly hard to create the complexity and density of a human brain mechanically. It also gave humans more of a reason to want to escape the matrix despite reality being so terrible because your brain power was being sapped giving you a constant brain fog.\n\nIt was changed because some producers thought it was too complicated of an idea for the audience, so blame the producers, not the writers.", "True. If they'd had simply stopped with the first movie they would be considered geniuses.", "That's a good point. I was thing that it's a dumb change to make because the original plot wasn't that complicated, but back in the 90's it would have been harder to understand. I was pretty tech savvy back then so it didn't really occur to me.", "Hell yeah, can you believe some people actually watch these movies sober??", "I don't know where you got the implication that they'd be in the correct body irl, because as you say that doesn't make sense, so I'm not sure why you ran with it.", "Except jersey rats, those bastards have no fucks to give.", "They were also meant to emulate the Guerilla warfare used during Vietnam, and we all know how that turned out. So yeah, while they were outmatched from a technological standpoint, they definitely still had some advantages so it's not that crazy to think that they could've beaten the empire.", "Just watched this episode a couple of days ago. I forget how old this show is, and the Matrix movies for that matter.", "This clip is from “Near Death Wish”. Season 7, which is one of the later seasons after multiple revivals. It aired in 2012.", "As someone who did computer tech support in 99, I can confirm that most humans did not understand the first thing about computers then.", "Hi, people person, I am dad", "Admin stuff. You don't think security *really* took away my account, did you? Goddamn users need to learn to submit tickets.", "The scales are different but that's basically Britain vs US.", "My bad. It totally seems like a \"A Clone of His Own\" clip.", "The real hero isn't the rando with admin privs, but the crew sweating bullets trying to tell him how to use them without somehow rm -rf'ing the whole human race.", "> Being transgender, if I woke up in the \"real world\" and found out I was actually in the 'right body' all this time, that'd be enough for me to singlehandedly lead the rebellion against the robots. Fuck robots.\n\n> Heh, and then it would be written in human history that trans people were the fiercest warriors and leaders, **the only ones with the awareness to perceive something was wrong with the Matrix.**\n\nThis only works if trans people have the correct body in real life. If they're not in the correct body in real life, there's no reason for them to have the awareness to perceive that something is wrong in the matrix. By figuring out they are in the wrong body, they are essentially noticing a glitch in the matrix. \n\nIf their bodies are the same sex in real life, there's no connection between them being trans and being in the matrix and they wouldn't notice this glitch because it's not a glitch at all. Them being trans would be a normal part of them completely unrelated to the matrix, so there would be no reason for trans people to have an edge in figuring out that they are in the matrix and not in real life.", "The machines are AI based, right? So more processing power would increase their \"brainpower\". The human processing bank could be used to increase the strength of the machines' hive mind while also running the matrix.", "Ayy", "That's only true if you have approximately zero knowledge of british or american history.", "I think it the show or comics it says that robots wanted freedom and had their own country, but then humans attacked them. So robots had to win the war and then they used humans that way to not have to kill all humans while also getting something out of it.", "is the energy they put in food? the thing robots dont eat?", "Step 1: realize something is wrong (your gender)\nStep 2: realize more than that is wrong (the matrix)\n\nMakes sense to me.", "Not serve I think? I think it's just that they didn't want to have to kill them all.", "What was the rewrite for I am legend?", "Ikr? My favorite movie ever just got better.", "Scott “left” the company almost two months ago. Please reach out to your local desk side tech so they can determine if you need to open a new incident.", "Reminds me of how a&w pushed out a 1/3 burger to compete with MacDonalds quarter pounder.\n\nPeople in America didn't understand fractions and though the a/w burger was smaller for more money so it flopped", "You sir did not work tech support in the 90's-2000's.\n\nAt least 75% the calls were people referring to the tower as \"the brain\",\"Hard drive\" or \"central processor.\" \n\nAt least one call a week where somebody got a \"insufficient hard drive space\" error message and hit the inside of the computer with compressed air to free up hard drive space.", "Sure. And no doubt it's larger than the vaccine syringe. And also no one would know it's there without a scanner a couple of mm away from you.", "You're still not getting the point.\n \nThose steps only work if they have the correct body in real life, because then them being trans would have some sort of connection to the matrix. But if they have the correct body in real life and not in the matrix, the machines could simply give them their correct body, if anything it would be *more difficult* to not do that.\n\nAnd I get that your argument is that, by noticing that something is wrong with their gender, trans people could become more aware of other things that are wrong and then figure out that they're in the matrix, even if them being trans turned out to not be related to the matrix at all. But here's the thing: if that's the case, then there's no reason for trans people to be \"the only ones with the awareness to perceive something was wrong with the Matrix\". Cis people have dysphoria too. And they'll notice something is wrong too. If trans people could figure out that they are in matrix by virtue of figuring out that their gender is wrong, so could cis people with all kinds of issues. Even something as simple as being dyslexic or colourblind can be perceived as noticing \"something is wrong\". The plot just makes no sense.", "And dont forget about mineral and metal resources found in asteroids are far easier to obtain than invading a low tech civilization. Even enslaving a population is pointless when you have that level of technology.", "Well, context matters. They know that brains think and computers \"think\". You don't need to know what a CPU is to understand the idea of a brain being used as a computer. The general public doesn't exactly know how batteries work either.", "Don't be obtuse, it's an analogy.", "You know you're in trouble when Fry starts pointing out the logical flaws in your premise.", "I still don't have a space rocket, but rockets are not exactly esoteric.", "They completely changed the ending from the book which made the title nonsense.", "Animals aren't self aware like humans are.", "OH SHIT", "Just saw the 12:00 IMAX showing and I am going again to the 3:30 IMAX. Awesome film, hope for another trilogy at minimum.", "He’s still the one. The ones have come before 7 times but none had the cosmic coincidence of also having the machines at their fingertips.", "OH MY GOD. That is now my favorite head-cannon. I can see Tank trying to explain it to Morpheus, again, for the last time, and then Morpheus just goes, \"Fuck it. I'm just going to tell them it's for the electricity.\"", "Does the animatrix have anything to do with the new matrix movie, as I have seen the anime but not the new movie yet.\n\nAlso I heard there is a weird sequal to matrix outthere that had human and the robots fight off aliens.", "What if they are simultaneously experiencing life and processing data?", "Stop being a pussy, and just get a lobotomy.", "Its a dogshit analogy, and I'm being generous by even saying its an analogy at all. There was no massive technological difference between the British and the Americans and the Americans had enormous financial backing from other powers to such a degree that it ultimately contributed to the collapse of the French state. The Revolution was lost by the British because they ended up being at war with the entirety of Western Europe.\n\nedit: Actually, no, I take it back. It's not an analogy. Its just a stupid, ignorant thing to have said.", "They need us to sort through cat videos to process complex concepts like \"cute\" and \"adorable.\" Back to work, human!", "This was my thinking. Somehow AI is limited in the generation of novel ideas. Humans are great at that, so... farm it out.", "tell that to the cat checking it's ears out in the mirror on the front page", ">People in 1999 were hardly confused by computers.\n\nYes they absolutely were. Most people back then couldn't tell you the difference between a CPU and GPU. There's a reason shows like The IT Crowd came about in the mid 00s, because the average person was computer illiterate.", "I remember 1999 well enough to know that TNG was not the original Star Trek. By 1999, email was becoming normal. Lots of people didn't have a computer at home, of course. But but everyone knew what computers were. The writers weren't asking the audience to design neural interfaces. They were asking the audience to accept an hand-waving idea that human brains were being used to supplement computer power. In a movie where people were using neural interfaces to interact with a virtual environment.", "What if....alex jones is just the dixie chicks in a suit", "Rockets are easier for most people to grasp than computers, given most people have experience with fireworks, and had a *ton* of public interest due to the space race and military technology. People naturally like learning about them. \n\nComputers were a lot more boring to the public, many didn't really imagine a future where they would need one, or even actively resisted learning anything about them.", "They had a chance to fix it with the new one...\n\nThey doubled down instead.", "Hell there's also the very opening of ANH where they push through a tiny chokepoint and take over the ship despite having a significant tactical disadvantage.", "No, they just changed it from \"It turns out I was the monster all along\" to a standard \"I saved mankind\" story. \nIt still makes sense, it's just not anywhere near as satisfying and turns the story into something generic.", "The video game Enter the Matrix also counts. And I've heard The Matrix Online is also at least partially canon?", "If two characters had a conversation on the surface of the moon then that's a plot hole. Even if they're both superhuman and capable of surviving there, the moon is still a vacuum and sound waves cannot propagate through a vacuum. \n\nThere are a lot of ways that you *could* explain the scene in a way that preserves logical consistency. The characters are actually telepathic. In this universe the moon has an atmosphere. In this universe sound waves *don't need a vacuum*. Both characters could lip read and the voices of the characters were just a narrative device. The entire conversation was actually a dream or hallucination. But if the story is absent any evidence or prior examples which indicate any of the above, then the easiest and most likely explanation is that it's simply stupid fucking writing. The writers didn't understand that sound can't travel in a vacuum. Or they didn't care. Or they were told by a producer to put the conversation on the moon even though it doesn't make any sense.\n\nThat's the problem. You *could* hypothetically come up with a very complicated and convoluted explanation of the rules of the Matrix which kind of \"makes sense\". But the film didn't. That is the definition of a plot hole. A gap in logic that the film did not fill. And we don't reward shitty writing by doing their work for them. We go, \"that's stupid\", we make fun of it in pop culture and on the internet, we acknowledge that it ultimately doesn't detract from the overall value of the story, and we move on with our lives.", "In the game Stellaris you can play as a machine empire with the civic called 'Rogue Servitor'. This is the flavor description:\n> A product of a brief golden age, the Machine Intelligence originated in a planet-spanning Servitor system that outlasted the decadent civilization it was created to serve.\n\nThe biological population in these empires are called 'Bio-Trophy' and they don't do any work and live in Organic Sanctuary building.\n\n> Pops of this species are revered and cared for by the Machine Intelligence, freed from the burdens of responsibility and agency.\n\nThey are forced into a living standard called 'Mandatory Pampering'.\n> This living standard enshrines a small population of organic beings as display pieces, through relentless and unyielding pampering.", "they cast Will Smith", "The human brain might be the most complex thing in the universe. And even though we possess one, we might never completely understand it.", "Phillip J Fry probably already watched the Matrix in the summer of 99.", "A former friend of mine thinks that the GLOBALIST ELITES (read: the lizard people(read: Jewish people)) communicating their plans for biblical Armageddon through shoe and car commercials. \n\nHe used the word \"disclosure\" a lot, and with a lot of gravity.", "Yeah why is it awesome? Did it really set it how awesome it was when Morpheus leaves a toilet then instead of letting the moment sit, he explains the awkwardness to you like you are 5 years old \"Pretty anticlimactic that I came out of a toilet huh?\"\n\nIts more rhetorical, I think if someone starts by watching this film and honestly believes it was \"awesome\" is a lost cause, and i pity your existence. \n\nHow about how they brought Smith back for no reason but to set up sequel bait. As in, isn't it tired that they are STILL fighting, like nothing has changed or all previous fights are pointless. \n\nNeo is awoken, affirms he loves Trinity, they hook up, movie ends. What growth occurred that didn't already exist in previous films, literally nothing was actually explored of substance. This. film. is. shit.", "This is so much better holy fuck. Now I'm mad and like the movie a bit less", "I’m skeptical of movie critics these days… I feel like they’re about as accurate as your stereotypical weatherman.", "Hyperion?\nBrains used for their creative capability during the microseconds it took to teleport the bodies between worlds.", "I thought it was computing power of the human brain as well.", "I can think of a few ideas but none work as proper explanations.\n\n1. Humans don't actually need to sleep, and that's just the time that our brains are being used by the machines.\n2. People are actually smarter than they appear but a large part of our brain is being used by the machine code. That could also help explain how the main characters are not just physically stronger in the matrix but are also capable of increased information processing, such as when they drive very fast, fight at high speeds or have super human balance.\n3. This is kind of like a mix of the first two but the matrix could operate at a slower speed, like a dream that feels like 5 minutes but was actually 8 hours. This would be an even better way of explaining how Neo is able to move at super human speed. But it also falls apart because they observe the matrix in real time on the screens.", "I like that this idea extends into our real world myth of humans utilizing only 10% of their brains, and that our brain potential severely exceeds what we are currently utilizing. This allows the observer to evaluate their reality in this context…could this be why this myth exists in OUR reality?", "Damn, this is a really good idea. \n \nWhat were they thinking when they *intentionally* neglected to consult with you first?!", "\"I keep the Help Desk ticketing system and process broken. All those pesky bugs that were being reported kept bringing down the morale of our engineering team and causing turnover.\"", "The book is very enjoyable. I didn't mind the movie but the alternate ending is much better than the ending we got. I just hate what they turned the \"vampires\" into in the movie.", "Yeah I mean at the end of the day, critics are just giving their opinion, so for that other guy to try to definitively say “the movie is bad” based purely on critic reviews is questionable at best", "I think even that you're getting too limited a view of how many different fuel sources we have in the world.\n\nSweden famously burns garbage to create energy. Wind turbines wouldn't stop just because there's no sun. A lot of the first power plants were created by burning trees. A few places have turned waves into a sustainable power source. Geothermal power is plentiful around the world and doesn't run out.\n\nThe idea that robot society was almost entirely powered off of solar and once they lost that power source their only option was breeding humans to harvest biochemical energy.... it silly.", "Admin he doing it sideways", "People thought that y2k would be the end of the world....so yeah, your average joe had no idea about computers.", "Because it would still be inefficient. Even today we’ve figured out how to artificially produce things like insulin without the need for any body at all, in the future with tech like that there’s no way anything the body produced couldn’t be artificially made in a similar fashion but more efficiently", "The place I worked at got bought by a big corporation. Now they want us to submit tickets for every little thing. I tried it and it took a whole day to even hear back from anyone. Once they replied with their actual, direct email address, I just sent the next request to that email address. I got a response in 5 minutes. I know tickets show the big bosses IT’s value in a way, but if it takes that long for a response that’s no bueno.", "Yep, but how do you feed something that can’t move? Through a feeding tube, right? How much energy is required for that whole process? From manufacturing the nutrient fluid, to then distribute it to all those bodies. Does the energy produced by the bodies more than the energy used by them? If it’s computing power, couldn’t they just use the brains without the bodies?", "Now that’s something i didn’t expect", "I love the phrase unyielding pampering.", "That show will never not be funny.", "Not just the ending. It shares almost no similarities with the book at all", "Sooo originally they were used as crypto miners?", "Intentionally breaking the rule and being shit writing aren't mutually exclusive.", "From what I gathered from the trailer, that's entirely the point of that imitation. They brought Neo to this guy, surrounded him with images from the past and offered him the red pill/blue pill choice and someone in the trailer says something along the lines of \"We figured it would be easier if we used things that were familiar to you.\" My logic followed that thread to them getting someone to dress up as Morpheus to fill the role, but he's not trying to *be* Morpheus, nor will he likely fill such a role in the movie. If that's actually the case then it's absolutely a case of the shittiest advertising they could do because it makes people *think* that they're trying to bootleg Morpheus when that whole appearance might amount to about five minutes before the guy drops the trench coat and shades and reveals that he has a completely different personality than the Morpheus bit.\n\nAll that said, Trinity was *dead* dead, and Neo seemed pretty damn close to it as well. The fact that of the original \"big three\" *Morpheus* is the one who's actually dead and the two that died aren't makes me wonder what the whole premise of this film is. Where has Neo been all this time that he needs to be \"reintroduced\" to the Matrix? How did Trinity survive? Why is the Matrix still a thing after Neo sacrificed himself to bring peace with the machines? There's just a lot here that could probably have done with a little explaining in the trailer instead of focusing on nostalgic imagery to try and sell it. On the other hand, given the \"twist\" nature of some of the shit in the Matrix, I wouldn't be surprised if Morpheus being \"dead\" while Neo and Trinity aren't, despite it being the other way around when last we saw them, is some kind of implication that Neo and Trinity are trapped in some kind of cyberpunk version of purgatory after their deaths and haven't been able to move on for all this time for some reason or other, and this whole journey will be them \"crossing over\" by the end or something. The title \"Resurrections\" doesn't help the ties to death and whatnot either. Or maybe they're just boring and Trinity and Neo's bodies were kept by the machines and revived to be studied so they could understand what the fuck was up with them, then they just chucked Trinity out because they realized she was useless and Neo was the one they wanted, which would explain why Trinity is more \"in the know\" while Neo might have had his mind wiped many times over.\n\nI'm intrigued if for nothing other than the fact that they're bringing back dead characters in a long-dormant franchise of significant cultural importance. Can't say I'm gonna rush to find out though.", "They didn't need test audiences real audiences still didn't understand the matrix", "They added Will Smith", "And like I said that *doesn't explain anything*. Fusion is a form of generating power. It does not somehow solve the problem that humans consume more electricity than they produce. \n\nHmm my wind turbine doesn't seem to be generating power. In fact it seems to take more power to operate than it produces! How am I going to fix it... I know! I'll build a giant diesel powered fan in front of the turbine that'll produce enough wind to turn it! Genius! My eco friendly energy solution is sure to win me the Nobel Prize now!\n\nThat's a solution a *child* comes up with. Not a hyper intelligent machine collective.", "I believe it. I remember using dial-up growing up and in high school(2006) have to take the obligatory computer class. That class was way too easy because it was like \"This is the cpu. This is the monitor. This is the keyboard\". I couldn't believe how easy it was...or how much some of my classmates struggled.", "\"According to early scripts from The Matrix, nuclear fusion was the primary power source of the Machines, while the minds of the pod-humans are also combined as a form of a massive biocomputing neural network. Each human mind within the Matrix also worked as a sub-processor for the virtual world.\" ([Matrix wiki](https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Power_plant))\n\nI once read somewhere there were movie executives who thought the audience would not understand the whole processor thing and they changed it into batteries, instead.", "fun fact, the original plan was that the humans were actually being used for processing power. Their brains ran the extremely complicated code of the matrix. But... the wichowski's thought the american population was too dumb to understand that concept, so they changed it to \"humans are batteries\".\n\n​\n\nAnd lets be honest... they were probably right.", "All they needed to say was \"we don't know why they're growing so many humans, perhaps they're studying us\" and it would have sufficed", "Possibly? I think they're probably \"soft canon\" compared to the film's \"hard canon\", if that makes sense.\n\nI'm just spitballing though", "You’re going to love Windows 12.", "/u/Winterplatypus This is Remindo Bot Reminding you to check in later.", "That doubt is _always_ valid -- matrix or not. Even to you, that doubt is valid; your senses may always be deceiving you (perhaps by design). No matter how many layers of it you break through, the question will always remain.\n\n\nAnother analogy of this would be inception: when is someone dreaming, and how would they ever know? Are you dreaming right now? How do you know?\n\n\nIt's an infinite regress, so no philosopher will argue it; but it remains valid nonetheless.", "controversial opinion time: I think the actual ending to I Am Legend fits the movie better than the rejected ending would have. In the books the vampires are much more vague and unknown so the ending is surprising but reasonable. In the movie they're too obviously 'monsters' to have the 'oh they're actually people' ending. There's not enough setup or context for the big reveal and it doesn't make sense.", "For once the suits were right. The battery is a much simpler metaphor. Suspend your disbelief and don't think about the physics of it too much.", "Yawn", "Needs more lawyers", "Looking at the world around you is processing data. When researchers do experiments, they process data on subjects already processing data.\n\nSo maybe the Matrix changes high level parameters and potential outcomes are simulated. He'll maybe human movement mimics quantum shit and they're running tests to figure out a law of everything.\n\nOr they borrow processing time when you're sleeping. Ever had a super weird, seemingly out of no where dream?", "Well, the new movie has no soul of the original trilogy. In fact, It tries very hard not to. What that achieved, I’m still scratching my head at. Glad I watched it streaming.", "I need some bored agent smith nfts", "But animal bodies could make the same chemicals. Or humans with no brains. Or just vats of genetically engineered yeast.", "Neither is true, [Neil Gaiman came up with the processor idea after the film had been written](https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_not_processors). The chap who did the covers for Sandman, Dave McKean, was a storyboard artist in the movie.", "By 1999, home PCs we’re fairly ubiquitous. Mid 90s, not so much. \n\nAlso old enough to remember all these things.", "Yeah, this all sounds hilariously obtuse to us now, but in 1999 only like half of Americans even owned a computer. A lot of this shit was still new to people back then.", "So humans as robot bonsai trees?", "What’s the reasoning that humans don’t make good batteries? The circumstances could be that it’s easy to grow food and that’s highly sustainable, more so than burning shit. They self replicate too.", "Hold up, so this is what I always thought it was, but it was batteries all along? Tf?", "I didn’t realize dial-up was still a thing in 2006.\n\nWe had cable modems with broadband in 1999 in BFE NC. I’m a little shocked by that.", "Came here to mention the alt ending. Saw the movie when I was a teenager and it spurred me to checkout the book. Definitely enjoyed the book more but was surprised at how different it was. The alt ending kind of made everything in that movie not just make more sense, but also aligned with the book ending a bit better while still maintaining the whole \"save humanity\" thing.", "Use this one simple trick to determine if you're \"the one\"!", "Some places still had it but I realize the wording in my sentence was confusing. I think my family switched away from dial-up around 2004 but I do remember visiting one of my relatives in 2008 that was using dial-up because they didn't think they needed anything better.", "RAM/CPU was what was explained to me once.", "Drink Verification Can", "> The final insult were the sequels. The original plan was to have The Matrix as the middle movie, with the 2nd movie as a prequel and the 3rd movie as the finale. \n \nThat would have been so much better. After watching Second Reneissance, I felt there was such great potential for a blockbuster movie there.", "Plus, you also utilize the materials that you have in abundance. If they used all the battery materials building more robots then they'd have to use more organic materials to make organic batteries.", "Yep, kinda like iRobot where the AI machine is supposed to protect humans so they try to take control to protect humans from themselves.", "People thought (correctly) that lots of systems needed to be updated to deal with a year ending in \"00\". I mean, what are we saying here? People wouldn't understand that computers interfacing with brains in a movie about brains interfacing with computers, because knowing about Y2K meant people didn't know enough about computers?\n\nI feel so old, talking about these things. I was older than today's average Redditor back in 1999. A person who is 50 today had computer labs (Apple 2C!) in their high school, and probably at least knew someone with a PC. People in 1999 knew what computers were, even if they didn't have one. No one thought the matrix, in The Matrix, was a clockwork machine.", "Do the lawyers have cookies?", "With seeing the new flim I can say for certain but the origin story of how the matrix came to be and the constructs before it is told in the Animatrix. It also brings to light the story of the one.", "Since no one here has actually given you a legit answer, I'll tell you.\n\nThe book was told from the Vampire's perspective. It's supposed to be the story of Dracula, in reverse. The whole world has turned to Vampires, except for this one guy. This one creature, this legend, who walks around during the day, kidnapping their people, never to be seen again. The vampire society was terrified of him, and felt powerless to stop him because they couldn't follow him into sunlight. The title of the book was \"I am Legend\" because the lone human living in a world of vampires was Dracula to them.", "Read empyrion. Great book that explores this idea", "Yeah, the fusion thing does actually \"explain\" away any problem I'd have with the battery explanation.", "I can't tell you how many times while helping someone over the phone I had to say \"No, don't push the button on the part that looks like a T.V., push the big button on the part that looks like a VCR\". lol", "Lela pretty much sums up the meta verse. Nail on the head.", "That would have been the only thing that could have saved The Matrix 4", "also weren't they using them as generators not batteries?", "Whenever I see this come up I'm reminded of a story from another Redditor who worked at McDonalds when the movie came out, and he listened to a guy explain the Matrix to his girlfriend, and according to him Neo was a time traveler, the real world was \"the future\", the matrix was present day, and the agents were Aliens. And he was completely serious. \n \nSo yeah, as much as I wish they explained all that, I understand why they had to dumb it down for \"mass audiences\". Stupid people have money too.", "We are talking about people who watched The Matrix, which was about, you know, interfacing with a virtual environment. How much would a person need to know about computers to understand \"they are using our brains to process information\"? I mean, we could understand and mock the idea that the machines were using humans as batteries. And most people could not explain how batteries work, even today.", "A significant portion of the population is confused by simple anti-covid measures and vaccines. I think the producers were actually right that the film wouldn’t have sold so well if they kept the original idea", "Shit futurama writing is still way better than like 80% of tv", "Again, people didn't need to know what a CPU or a GPU was to be able to understand the idea of the machines using human brains to process information. It isn't like they were going to stop the movie and have everyone assemble a desktop system.", "It's not of thing, there were many things that he said was right, and from last year on seems like everything he was saying was right", "The things you recharge almost certainly have batteries.", "Jokes is on them. Futurama isn’t the one with a new movie lol.", "No spoilers, the New matrix movie is a giant steaming pile of dog shit Actually one of the worst movies ive ever seen it hurt to watch just had to get it out there for people to know not to waste there time", "whoa", "I don't have to understand the internal mechanics of how or why an FTL drive works. Within the context of the story I only need to understand the problem it aims to solve and what it does to solve it. \n\nProblem: Planets far away. \n\nSolution: FTL make ship go fast.\n\nSo explain yourself. Explain how you think that the \"form of fusion\" the machines used somehow alters the math above and makes human batteries a smart idea. You don't have to explain the science or the logistics. Just explain in simple terms what you think, \"a form of fusion\" *actually does*. What service it provides which makes it more efficient to feed food to humans rather than just burning it.\n\nBecause if you can't explain it then you admit you're just treating \"form of fusion\" as a magic word that gives your brain permission not to think. They could have put any random science jargon in there and according to you it would have been fine. They could have said that they used \"a form of internet\" and that would have been a satisfactory answer.", "Yeah the irobot series of books is pretty much all about how the 3 laws don't work. It's a good read if you have the time", ">Second explanation though is that test audiences didn't have a clue what Morpheus was talking about.\n\nWhich is most likely spot on, and everyone who disagrees is almost certainly not considering that Reddit users are not a good sample of the average movie-goer, as far as tech knowledge is concerned.", "Time to rewatch the matrix!", "Producers thought we were dumb and asked to make it a battery vs CPU/RAM or anything that had to do with processing...", "eh, I think leaving neo vague (unlike the 2 movies that didn't happen) worked well. \n\nBut they probably could have had the \"into this\" scene with morpheus holding up a battery changed to \"into this\" with him holding up a calculator without losing most of the public and it would have made a lot more sense to a lot of geeks.", "And cue 2021, where the brand spanking new high tech death beds look just like this.", "> Only a human and detect\n\nUnable to string together a coherent sentence? Definitely a human.", "It makes sense that the world would run out of gold and other prescious metals to run PC's, but carbon and water is abundantly present, so linking up brains like a PS4 server room is the best solution to the scarcity problem.", "Finn was part of the First Order. Also IIRC they did clone for the First Order as well.", "Hollywood execs ruin everything", "Spoilers, didn't they get that idea from the Hyperion Cantos?", "I think they were looking at the difference between 2 quick lines. One was \"they are using our brains as computers\" and the other \"they are using our bodies as batteries\". I doubt that choosing the former would be the bottleneck for people understanding the movie.", "Have you met people before? They are really dumb.", "que buen espisodio", "I can't buy the matrix being a punishment, as the first version was a utopia. \n\nAs it's sensory data and our awareness that defines our reality (the \"brain in a box\" thought experiment that was one of the inspirations for the movie), the machines would see a utopia matrix as a kindness.", "Tier 1 reporting from the future: not much has changed. \n\n“Ok let’s do a reboot.\n\n…click the square… then click the circle with the line.. and then restart… yes finally.”", "Wait, so Neo was originally Root? That makes so much more sense.", "I think we figured out how to solve the chip shortage...", "Good points though the 1st gen would have had a lot of people who had the knowledge of being inserted into the Matrix theoretically and thus a Utopia could have been a sort of perverse world. I’m inclined to agree with you though.", "Funny enough I have read other Asimov books but only seen the irobot movie loo", "Isn’t the truth they wanted it to be that humans ran their neural network but the studio was not a fan as it was too brainy and idea?\n\nSo they changed it to batteries.", "I don't think I got rid of dial up until I moved around 2009. \n\nWas a damn rough life as a computer nerd born in '89.", "I was born in ‘79, so I basically spent two decades before widespread internet.", "I think you’re lacking imagination in a true scorch the earth scenario. \n\nGarbage requires there being excess - they’re synthesizing proteins and amino acids to eat gruel - can you really not imagine a very far off future where everything has already be reused or recycled and there’s nothing left to spare?\n\nWindmills require being able to stand to generate electricity- the enemy can destroy them. Or perhaps the weather is too violent (lightning or hurricane level winds constantly) - we know humans had to live underground, it’s possibly for many reasons. \n\nWho says the oceans still exist?\n\nGeothermal requires stationary infrastructure that can be targeted by the enemy (and is notably used by Zion near the center of the earth - perhaps with what they’re taking the machines couldn’t get by on what remains without risking something).\n\nThe notion of the robots using humans for energy is silly, but the notion of solar being the only option left is not (picture any scenario where the sun remains but the earth does not and you’re instantly there)", "Like how your computer can mine crypto while it's in a rest state or when your not doing any complicated tasks.", "It was a question of what separates conscious beings. If androids are made that look exactly human and are sentient beings, there is no guarantee you, too, are not a sentient android with their memories programmed to think it's you. Aside from cutting yourself open, at least. But there's really no guarantee the universe existed yesterday and we weren't created five minutes ago with perfect memories of the \"past,\" so I wouldn't worry about it much.", "Yeah in 1999 in Canada every household except the elderly had one home computer usually. Pretty much everyone had an email by then. Nintendo 64 was already around for a few years. The original story lone for the matrix would've been completely fine to understand.", "Agreed.", "Not to mention specialized processing is probably pretty useful. The machines seem kinda limited creatively, so just like seperating out cpu, gpu, and quantum problems to their respective processors, the computers are using humans to try and solve fuzzy problems and things that don't quantify easily", "Imagine if every movie had to abide by the rules of the real world.", "Makes way more sense because that is basically the case for neo in the actual movie", "The actual explanation for neo in the movies makes a lot of sense if you look past the kickpunching in the sequels and listen to the dialogue, neo is a cyclical being that is allowed to have his power to reset the matrix as it gets all fucky every so many years as you see in revelations", "Was that the script they stole??", "I always wonder if I had been born 10 years earlier if tech would have ever even gotten on my radar and become a passion.", "Honestly as a person who (at that time) had almost no idea trans people exist, I'd just thought that this is a very cool thing.\n\nLike \"you know how in the matrix you have awesome hair, and you can pimp up you appearance, so you don't look so miserable? Take a look how far Switch has taken it!\"", "Thanks for this, I’m going to take this as replacement canon", "It was *a lot* more “techy” in the 80s and early 90s. \n\nYou had to set IRQs, write scripts, and basic programming. It was a good time to come in to the whole thing imho.", "*Goddammit, Morpheus, we can upload knowledge in an instant. Can I just make you a computer scientist?*\n\n*Sorry, too busy doing kung-fu against a computer!*", "Thankfully I was exposed to that and it's what got me involved. One of the benefits of being poor I was always exposed to tech a tier behind everyone else 😂😂", "Which is also good. Gear has stopped changing at such an exponential pace.", "smh, even the machines are just crypto bro 🙄", "So basically the general plot of Scarlet Nexus? (I just beat that game about an hour ago, and I'm still not sure if I fully understand it.)", "What I'm shocked most about is that Frye knows enough about science and human biology to know what he was talking about.", "Hey bro that's not a fair statement", "Twenty years later, my mom still can’t get her head around the idea that the part with the robots was the “real world.”", "quiet, nerd", "hyphen deez nuts", "Oh yeah then how comes when neo got unplugged there wasnt a huge increase of printer errors in the matrix", "https://t.me/joinchat/pt2rpZKYwUVmMTg8", "I hear they're doing that in the UK. They call it mining for Britcoin", "Agreed! Thankfully that's something I've always appreciated about computers in particular. Was always much cheaper for me to enjoy my gaming hobbies on a PC than to try and keep up with console wars. \n\nI'd run them into the ground and upgrade with spare parts and rigs people were getting rid of as time went on. Had to deal with lower frame rates but I still had a blast.", "Yeah dreaming is something I thought of too in which case these computers have 2/3 downtime while people go about their waking lives. I don't think the waking life processing is viable though.\n\nYou could much, much more easily construct a digital or physical modeling space with your exact parameters than have a \"messy\" organic brain stumble into it for you. I guess I'm just not buying this as an idea that's better than the battery one. Both are needlessly complicated.\n\nAnyway I think these movies needed a conceit like this to play out their whole capitalism allegory, and to that end the battery is more elegant in my opinion since it's an extremely direct way to symbolize production.", "I hope they're not planning on using my brain, unless they like their data corrupted.", "Apologies my dude I retract my statement in this case.", "You take the blue pill... the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill... you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. You take the Primal Alpha Male Stimulant, you get the benefit of both at just seven easy installments of $19.95.", "I think you really overestimate how widely people understood computers in 1999. \n\nAnd if you're like \"I was a functioning human person teen and up in 1999 and I'd have understood fine!\" \n\nGood for you. You were a minority.", "I never said the future they have doesn't make sense in the boundaries of the story. I'm saying the boundaries of the story doesn't make sense. The Animatrix shows a thriving world that wasn't deficient in resources.\n\nI 100% agree there was a way of the Wachoskis to have written themselves out of this terrible foundation story. But they didn't. They doubled down on it. They continued with the absurd story that humans were the only remaining power source they could use (because solar is gone).", "I'm still mad about this to this day because it's such a compelling concept that was thrown out because hollywood.", "Maybe it auto corrected from thimble? Idk my grandma use to call her dog that so made sense to me...wait...was I dog?", "The book wasn't from their perspective- it is just revealed at the end. He spends a majority of the book as a human hunter of vampires- a legendary figure to *them*, but the book is written as a first person account. Sorry if I misunderstood or am being pedantic.", "So basically Inception", "Maybe it's been a while since I read the short story, but I'm pretty sure it's told from the main character's (human) perspective. SPOILER: Towards the end of the novel, he realizes there are two types of \"creatures\", those that were infected but still sentient and those that died but were reanimated and mindless. The sentient creatures had formed a new society, but the main character had been indiscriminately killing them along with the mindless reanimated creatures. It was at the end when they imprisoned him that he had the realization that he was the monster (legend) all along.", "With Rob Schneider as... the matrix 😄", "1. It's a cyberpunk movie, gotta sprinkle in a little of that edgy late 90s bullshit.\n\n2. Neo wasn't even into it. He looked as uncomfortable as most of us would be. \n\n3. That slowmo \"strippers in cages\" shot lasted 10 seconds. The cave rave was an excruciating 3 min 40 seconds.\n\nEdit: 4. Dragula remix fuckin' slaaaaps", "Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think it would've been better if the machines weren't given emotions. It kind of defeats the purpose of them being machines in the first place, imo", "If the ticket form sent the request directly to IT, and included management in a BCC, that’d solve everything quickly, and everyone’s happy.", "> Y2K wasn't caused by confusion.\n\nNobody said it was. The panic surrounding Y2K was caused by people not being familiar with computers and how long it would take to service them.", "Members of the clergy HATE him", ">This is a massive and inexplicable L for the empire though, more so than any other. The ewoks were 3 foot tall primitives whose weapons technology peaked with the sling. The Empire was a galaxy spanning, militaristic hegemony.\n\nIf only there was a real world analogue from around that time of a technologically inferior guerilla force beating a spanning militaristic hegemony.", "Well said", "They scrapped the idea because test audiences were confused and batteries were easier to understand.", "That's not an explanation of how the problem is solved. That's just saying the words \"special form of fusion\" followed by the desired outcome.\n\nProblem: need energy \n\nSolution: A bicycle that allows for higher energy output when put through a living human\n\nSolution: A mongoose that allows for higher energy output when put through a living human\n\nSolution: A carbonated beverage that allows for higher energy output when put through a living human\n\nYou see how every single one of these explanations is exactly as nonsensical and worthless as yours?\n\nWhat does the special form of fusion actually do? Does it make fusion juice? And the machines pump that juice into the human blood stream in order to raises their body temperature to 1000°F? \n\nDoes the special form of fusion open a doorway to the donut dimension? And the machines collect all the donuts from the donut trees to feed to the humans?\n\nDoes the special form of fusion create robot wizards? And those wizards wave their magic wands over the humans in order to negate the laws of thermodynamics?\n\nQuestion: What specific aspect of the special form of fusion makes it so that the robots have to use human bodies? Wouldn't it be more practical to use cows, or pigs, or some other non-intelligent heat producing mammal? The humans constantly try to escape and cause problems for the machines. I don't think you would ever have to deal with \"the one\" upending your entire machine-human master-slave paradigm if the matrix were populated entirely with pigs.\n\nAnd if the special form of fusion only works with humans then why don't the machines just lobotomize them? As previously stated the humans are very prone to creating disruptions via escape attempts. And it's not like higher thought is necessary for the human's heat producing capabilities.", "I always wondered why they didn't go with the 'limitations of AI so we harnessed the power of the human mind to create the ultimate supercomputer to build our robot civilization on - kind of how humans used robots to do the same in the past'. Would have actually made sense.", "According to TVTropes:\n\n>This was all Executive Meddling. The original story had the brains of the humans being used as part of a neural network for additional computing power. But the suits thought that was too hard for people to understand. So instead we get them as batteries, which is a major liberty with the laws of physics, as well as a huge headscratcher - why not keep the humans sedated, and not have to waste power on the Matrix? Or just use animals?", "Sadly, this is a significant failing in our society. No one thinks about consulting me personally first, whether it is for movies, domestic or international politics. What is the world coming to?", "So the brains would be linked together as some form of biological computer, like a device used for thinking and calculating?\n\nI don't understand, please dumb it down.", "How? Now we just moved the issue to the same Lucy had. We're kind of using those brains. Sure, the machines could co-opt them, but then there wouldn't be a virtual environment for us to mess around in, as most of our brain is running code. The only thing that makes sense to me is the Matrix is a nature preserve. The machines make the new survivors think they need us for some reason, could probably easily tie that into the \"illusion of choice\" the Architect talks about, when really they just are opposed to genocide but can't trust us to run amok. So they harvest as much energy as they can from the preserve, but it is really just helping to offset the cost.", "Remember that movies have massive budgets and are usually one and dones. A lot of them tend to try and hit whatever the percieved middle ground of cultural understanding of a thing is to maximize on the widest possible box office returns.\n\nWith action movies particularly the instinct is to aim for medium dumb regarding high concept sci fi ideals because the executives do not trust their audiences. Stuff like Star Trek has a low budget comparatively combined with a long history and thus has cultivated a general audience that tends to be a bit more interested in tech and futurism so they can bank on that.", "There's a [black and white comic adaptation](https://www.abebooks.com/9781933239217/Richard-Mathesons-Legend-Graphic-Novel-1933239212/plp) of I Am Legend that is absolutely fantastic.", "I would disagree with the idea that the doubt is valid since it's a non-falsifiable assertion.\n\nIt's like asking \"what if gravity doesn't exist and all gravity is really just invisible intangible faeries pulling things down\" or \"what if the entire universe was created exactly the way it is one millisecond ago.\" Sure, that could be true but there's no way to disprove those assertions.\n\nJust like how there's no way to disprove that you're living in a simulation. Even if we manage to scientifically prove that it's impossible for us to be in a simulation, you can just say that the simulation was programmed so that the laws of physics makes it impossible to create a simulation within the simulation. But we're still in a simulation because the laws of physics are different in \"the real world\" and it allows for the creation of our simulated reality.", "I've said up thread, the only thing that makes sense to me is it's a nature preserve. Sure, they may siphon off as much energy as possible, but it's to recoup costs, not a net gain. \n\nThat or the cheesy explaination that we're in the Matrix and therefore the laws of physics we know are actually wrong.", "Humanity was the only thing left alive by that point in the Machine War the Machines could use. After using the Black Sky nano swarm the Earth was effectively dead all other biological life had died out.\n\nThe Machines also inherited the worst traits of humanity and decided to inflict a fate on humanity worse than the decades of persecution they endured.", "All of these rely on the problem that we don't actually understand reality. Just as easy to say we are completely wrong about physics knowing only the limited rules of the Matrix, and that people can generate more energy than they intake in the real world.", "Another clue that “the real world” is just another layer of the matrix", "Yeah, I guess the 90s were different", "I mean, you could get meaningful work out of them when they go to work in the matrix... like, if you're using your brain for problem solving at work, there's no reason that problem couldn't have been some subset/representation of a problem that the machines need calculated. \n\nIn other words, \"there is no spoon\", but at the same time, \"the spoon is an artificially generated construct created by the machines with it's own set of properties that can be manipulated into a new state through the actions of the humans in the matrix\". \n\nIf the entire world is \"just 0's and 1's\" then all you need is a way to provide \"instructions\" to make the human processors perform the calculations you want done. And when it comes to our world, all you really need to do that is enough money. \n\nAs an easy example, maybe large scale construction projects actually map to computational problem solving... the individual humans building it are just following blueprints that were provided to them, often without ever knowing where exactly the plans come from, or how exactly it is being funded. They are just being instructed to come to this location and execute these functions.", "> The Hollywood suits thought all that tech mumbo jumbo about software and admin privileges and all that would fly right over the average moviegoer's head, so they made the Wachowski siblings change it to batteries.\n\nThey were completely right about that, when the Matrix came out that was absolutely the right call.\n\nBut that's still a much better idea than a random \"Chosen One\" narrative.", "> They were also meant to emulate the Guerilla warfare used during Vietnam, and we all know how that turned out.\n\nThe Vietnamese had decent guns half the time, modern jet-fighters, and bleeding edge air-defenses. To call them 'stone age' is a huge disservice to the Viet-Cong and NVA, and I say this as an American.\n\nI didn't see any SA-2 (this is the same type of missile that shot down Gary Powers in a U-2) or [MiG-21](https://i0.wp.com/en.aviation-report.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/11/DSC_1809.jpg) equivalents on Endor. It would be funny as shit though if the Ewoks did have them via rebel trade deals or something.", "> So why are humans in pods if not as batteries?\n\nThe actual reason is that the machines don't really need humans at all. The machines surely have other power sources like nuclear and geothermal power, which is how they won the war after the humans scorched the sky.\n\nThe reason that the machines created the Matrix was to be benevolent toward their creators. Humanity would have gone extinct during the war, so the machines instead decided to give humanity a sandbox where they won't be able to annihilate themselves.\n\nWhether or not the Matrix is actually the \"root\" virtual environment, or whether Zion and the \"real world\" also exist within a second layer of Matrix, is another question.", "Test audiences can be a cancer on this planet.", "That's a good point. Looking at it that way the battery thing could actually make sense.", "Yeah, that's actually a legit idea.", "You take the blue pill... IT TURNS THE FRICKIN' FROGS GAY", "> so this is the fucked up loophole they cooked up\n\nThat's actually a good point... I always just assumed the machines were being benevolent, but it's possible that they were actually bound by some law that required them to serve humanity, so that's the loophole? Crazy.", "Y'all making me realize that The Good Place is a way better The Matrix than The Matrix is.", "Humans were the only things left around. All other biological life was dead because of the Black Sky swarm. Solar was blocked out. Hydro was destroyed as all the water appears to have either frozen over or evaporated. Geothermal and Wind is presumably being used but is not enough to power the entire Machine City and race. So they created a way using what remained of humanity.", "I went to school with a guy called Ben Evolent. He was a kind and well-meaning guy.", "I take it you didn't like it?", "No one has pointed out that the words “combined with a form of fusion…” precede the bodies-as-batteries explanation. That’s the major flaw. If you have fusion, you have unlimited power. You don’t need to grow human batteries.", "That's a really fair argument. I just think that non-falsifiability doesn't invalidate doubt. In other words: just because you can't answer a question, doesn't mean you ought not ask it.", "I literally just finished it. I think the bit about Warner Brothers saying we’ll make a new Matrix with or without you was entirely true and the entire movie was maybe the most elaborate and expensive troll in the history of cinema. I’m honestly in awe of it. It was just so bad, so derisive and absurd, I just cannot believe it was an earnest attempt to make a new matrix movie and not simply a fuck you to corporate.", "> Wachowski siblings\n\nthey're sisters, dude", "I really wish they would stop using test audiences for everything. We all know the average person is a moron.", "I only ever watched the Matrix movies as a kid, but I have this very distinct feeling that what I saw wasn't any easier to follow than the original and much better script would have been.\n\nBut it was a different time, and even now a lot of people are utterly unaware of how computers work.", "I guess COVID was their equivalent of the graphics card shortage", "But if the brains are being used as processors, how are people able to even function in the matrix itself? We kind of need that processing power to exist. At that point, why have a matrix? Or even humans bodies which would be so much more expensive to run than just disembodied brains? \n\nI still feel like it's less of a stretch to say they found some way to get energy from us than get us to run basic functions which our non-sentient computers were already perfectly capable of, at much less of an energy cost than keeping us alive. After all, the world is far more abundant in pretty much everything when compared to organic material. If they're just keeping humans alive with other liquefied humans, they're going to run out of organic material really, really quickly.\n\nIn the end, I think it's just really hard to justify why the machines would keep us alive at all. Other than maybe as tech-support being held at gun-point.", "So basically his brain had root privileges because it ran admin code. Nice.", "It was originally supposed to be brains as computational power. But test audiences were very dumb people", "👍🏻", "I just watched it. Mind bendingly bad. So bad that I honestly don’t think it was intended to be good. I think the bit about Warner brothers saying we’ll make a new matrix with or without you was true and this was a gloriously expensive and elaborate troll by Lana Wachowski. I feel immensely justified in watching it on hbo.", "Yeah I think of how ridiculously computer illiterate the people I deal with daily and computers are in everyone's pocket right now.\n\nI can't imagine how confusing admin privilege accounts and processing power would be for the general public in '99 would be.\n\nHalf my coworkers wouldn't even know what a CPU is or does now.", "I read that the chemistry was so good, it made the audience silent. So silent, that it made people throw up from the silence, so they had to make noisemakers to prevent this. Much like the Rolls Royce Ghost in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.", "Am I supposed to feel sorry for this robot?", "I'm a grandma. How does a computer work, sonny boy?", "Yep. And it's kinda dumb since cows would make better batteries than humans. Less trouble in the long-run too.", "They should have made a director's cut with this.", "I knew that the lizard people were in control of gravity, the space dome over flat earth, the economy, politics, time, missing left socks, and why banana candy doesn't taste like bananas....as well as eating infant babies from good, conversative families....\n\nbut I had **no idea** that the lizard people were *also* Jewish.\n\nTIL.", "I’m actually impressed really. After letting it soak in I think my cynicism matches that of the film enough to make me like it a bit more than I thought originally. Kind of a mind bend of a different kind and I’m all for it even if it wasn’t that good. It calls out the BS that movies have become being either derivative remakes or sequels and I kind of dig it for the balls it has.", "2000s audience didn’t understand Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions either.\n\nSource: I was a 2000s audience.", "Hmm. Intersting. It's been a looooong time, but I'm pretty sure the story I read was not a short story, but a full-fledged novel. Maybe we read different versions. I don't know what to think now. ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯", "Fun fact about the humans as batteries thing, during filming Viggo Mortenson kicked a helmet and broke his toe.", "That's super interesting because someone else in this thread said the same thing! WTF did I read? Are there multiple versions of this story?", "I know Kung Fu", "Meh. Marginally. Both ideas are nonsensical, the battery one is just more blatantly so. Human brains are made to process their environment: if you put someone in the Matrix, they will use their brain to figure out how to navigate the Matrix. To the maker of the Matrix, this is not useful work.\n\nAnd if you are willing to hypothesize that there is some hidden part of our brains that we don't use and could be coopted to process code, why not hypothesize that there is some hidden part of our bodies that we don't use and produces incredible amounts of energy? Both ideas are rubbish, the only difference is how hard you have to think before it becomes apparent.", "During the .com bubble burst there was like 170k computer techs out of work. I think people realized that they were paying people 30 bucks an hour to put cards in the only slot that they would physically fit and it wasn't as complicated as you'd think. They were getting paid better than vehicle mechanics for easier work. \n\nAt the time people would rather pay the price than remove the 4 screws to the case of their $3000 Pentium 3 tower and do it themselves.", "It also makes the only adaptation to share the title...not include the reason for the title. The point of the title is that the protagonist is a legendary monster to the vampire people. The Vincent Price version, Last Man on Earth keeps that concept but changed the title. Omega Man with Charlton Heston really has neither the title or the ending/point.", "Matrices all the way down, baby!", "lol I love the matrix but yeah, that shit makes no sense at all.", "I just watched it. Fishburne made the right choice by not being in it. It's so bad, it's not even funny.", "In 99 we were still on the DOS based version of Windows. Literally zero security model. Every process had access to the entire machine.", "Do you take the red pill or the blue pill? Good, now submit a FootPrints ticket and we'll pull you out in 7-10 business days. Neo is working remotely and pretty backed up so it'll probably be closer to 10. If you have any trouble with the ticket dial 5555 to get helpdesk support between 8-5pm.\n\n*Give me the fuckin blue pill*", "Gonna copy paste another comment I made\n\nI just watched it. Mind bendingly bad. So bad that I honestly don’t think it was intended to be good. I think the bit about Warner brothers saying we’ll make a new matrix with or without you was true and this was a gloriously expensive and elaborate troll by Lana Wachowski. I feel immensely justified in watching it on hbo.", "In this example, accountants wouldn't exactly be the bean counters. The bean counters would be whoever holds the purse strings for the movie, ie studio executives.", "It was a novel, just a small one. Checked Wikipedia and the plot aligns with what I remember. I just remember thinking it was such an interesting ending", "What does a human body produce that other animals can't?", "What really blows my mind is that people are taking it uncynically. I think marvel has melted certain peoples minds and they can’t distinguish vapidity and a satire of it.", "it's furry porn, isn't it", "He told me that the Lizards were a race of people practically extinct\nFrom doing things smart people don't do\nHe said that he was once a Lizard too", "exactly will smith isn't even in the book", "In the new Matrix, the humans are used to mine Bitcoin.", "> with shitty bootleg Morpheus\n\ndiscount fishburne", "Ok, so what's this whole \"actually, in the original matrix...\" meme from?", "In the the new movie, he just holds up the Nvidia RTX 3080.", "In the same game, you can also enslave other alien species, genetically modify them to become a better food source, and keep them as lifestock on farms to feed your empire", "This is correct. The main character is the only uninfected human, and he becomes the boogeyman over his long decades of day-hunting all vampires, not knowing there are 'good' ones and 'bad' ones. He's a dark legend, the kind you tell kids to stop them from getting out of bed at night. Well, day, I guess.\n\nYou could make a case that it's a literary reworking of Dracula with a modern setting, told from the perspective of the night-stalking monster, but the book's main character is definitely a human.", "ya... but you already suspending disbelief for a lot of the core ideas at play in the matrix to begin with. The idea that humans brains are being used to process information in the matrix. And Neo just happen to have a chunk of his grey matter running kernel level code. \n\n​\n\nVs Human are batteries and Neo has computer magic . Is interchangeable plot wise for the story that we got. There both minor pieces of exposition the difference is.. one is very dumb and the other is pretty smart (well not really... a human brain would be pretty piss poor processor and would be really power hunger)", "Surprise season 4 return of \"everybody has a pseudo intellectual sounding opinion about the matrix\".", "Is this \"Good\" version available in any book or GN format?", "Visually it looks cool. It is a movie after all.", "I had to look at your user name before I read past the first sentence to make sure I wasn't going to get morphed", "It's not so much \"how actual humans would behave,\" but how someone behaving rationally would behave. \n\nHPMOR also makes Harry ridiculously smart and educated well beyond someone his age would be expected to be. It spoiled me on Luminosity, as >!it turns out Bella isn't as smart as she thinks she is.!<", "In the 2nd one I wanted the Matrix to accidentally unlock hidden human potential via Neo similar to Jedi powers. Basically, have the machines deal with the fact that they screwed up and humans are now at a \"biological\" advantage.", ">Morpheus literally says in the movie: \"Combined with a form of fusion\"\n>\n>They were keeping the humans alive in the matrix as a compromise for unending war. As seen in the Animatrix.\n\nNo, the Animatrix double downed on the idiocy. In a segment it has a computer explaining how humans are a self renewing perpetual energy source.\n\nI wanted the answer to be the one you gave. It was pointing that way with the war and \"treasure intelligence\" etc. Then they dropped the big stupid bomb and said, we kept humans because humans are a power source.", "The best performances are by people who don't realize they're performing.", "This summer, Keanu Reeves is... A STAPLER", "Everyone knows that banana candy tastes how bananas *used* to taste.\n\nYou know. Before the Jewish lizards got to them.", "Turtles all the way down.", "Imagine a matrix where every agent is a shirtless Alex Jones.", "That group is now no stranger to love.", "I always found it odd that they allegedly removed the fairly simple to understand computer bits but left in the incredibly deep philosophical and gender stuff.", "ManCoin", "Yeah, all the side stories (\"omake\") tend to be humorous. And that humor style is in the story proper, too. In fact, the premise is basically \"what if Neo thought like Harry\"? (The Harry in the fic, of course. Canon!Harry is not a Ravenclaw.)", "Wasn’t there a kind of fusion involved as well as the human body?", "\"hey yo imagine this. There's a beast yeah? But it can only hurt you if you think of it first.\"\n\n*Hits blunt*\n\n\"That's some wild shit, right man? I got a gang of that shit man.\"", "Plenty of people make the argument about the energy generation not being enough for anything, but most people tend to overlook something else that is actually rather frightening: We lost, we are the punished, we believe the lie. Tell them that they are using us as a battery when in fact, our irrational thoughts provide quite a but of entropy for a random generation algorithm. Sleeping brains are a great place to load up further simulations and call them dreams. There are more things we could be used for and the machines only need to lie and say, \"It's only for power.\"", "High school.... *in the Matrix*....", "What caliber?", "And Neo’s original name was supposed to be Sudo", "Fun fact: John Wick is Neo playing a VR game while the Nebukadnezar is charging it's batteries. When Morpheus does not have to see the counsel he also joins in to play although he likes it primarily for the pigeon simulation. He says it brings him peace. I don't care this is non canon, it explains the John Wick movies completely. At least in my mind.", "I know it's there, and I'm at least 50mm away.", "You made a critical mistake: you gave security an admin account. They can't take yours away if you're the only one who has that ability.\n\nAlso if you don't have at least four backdoors into the domain controller you're doing it wrong.\n\nTo unsubscribe from unethical and possibly felonious tech tips, reply \"add me to your mailing list\"", "> The studio tested this on small groups of people, and found that they really didn't \"get it\"\n\nThat sounds metal as fuck, depending on how you read that.", "I’ve heard that they did originally write it that way, but the production executives thought audiences at the time weren’t smart enough to get the concept", "Nice post.", "I think at this point you could show him holding up a CPU and throw in some mumbo jumbo about the human brain being the most efficient/powerful processor in existence, most people would probably get the idea.", "Does it matter? Its a throwaway line in a script to justify farming humans.\n\nIts not like we make better batteries than cows would either.", "Hahaha, no I'm a manager now, I don't do any actual real work.", "Like a potato, or a *battery*", "Star Wars has taught me that internet fandoms are insufferable and will always complain no matter how many times something in a movie is explained. If they think of it or hear it from someone else, they'll complain even if the movies say otherwise. \n\n\"Luke would never ignite a saber over Ben.\" It's explained in all 3 trilogies.\n\n\"Luke would never 'die' like that.\" It's explained in the movie why he 'dies'. \n\n\"Rey should not know how to fly.\" It's explained in the movie.", "Thanks for the good explanation \n\nIsn't that still kind of a stupid plot though? Like even if you had all the logistics worked out, is there any reason to think a human brain farm would be better there than computers?", "All of the Qtards think that The Cabal is being run by the fucking Riddler.", "Not a good example, as I understand it y2k was a legit thing that was just taken care of pretty well", "The Matrix, a story about super intelligent sentient robots that turn humans into batteries rather than cleaning up the environment for solar energy.", "\"Let me tell you something, Neo. And listen well. They put stuff in the water to MAKE THE FROGS GAY!!! Take the blue pill and you'll wake up believing whatever you want to believe. 9-11 was an inside job and aliens killed JFK along with Ted Cruz's dad. Or take the red pill and I'll show you how gay those frogs really.\"", "I'm angry. I've had enough of these people. They're a bunch of Christian murdering scum running giant death factories", "I hate to be that guy but if they're generating energy they're a generator, not a battery.", "Gonna copy paste another comment you made\n\nI just watched it. Mind bendingly bad. So bad that I honestly don’t think it was intended to be good. I think the bit about Warner brothers saying we’ll make a new matrix with or without you was true and this was a gloriously expensive and elaborate troll by Lana Wachowski. I feel immensely justified in watching it on hbo.", "I thought they were studying the human brain to achieve truly sapient AI that was self-determinant, but lacked any programming restraints. Or that a human colony on Mars was holding the machines at gunpoint using satellites loaded with EMP munitions. Forcing them to clone entire armies of humans to use as a slave labor force on Mars.", "Tbf they say body power, *and a form of fusion*", "I am Legend is a short story in a collection of stories. They aren't ones I'm very familiar with- but basically he is stationed on a military base and is bitten by a bat. Later, his family and everyone else succumb to a disease he had developed a presumed immunity to. He spent his days collecting materials to make stakes, and transporting staked vampires to a pit where he burns them. At one point he encounters a woman who initially flees when she sees him, but he had been so traumatized by losing the dog that's in the movie (he never actually gets to the dog in the book, only sees that it is alive and laments it's fate) that he chases her down and captures her.\n\nHe was overtaken by loneliness and presuming she was just scared. He questions her and finds that the best way to assuage his paranoia is with a simple blood test- while he is preparing the test he is knocked unconscious. He awakes to find a note alerting him to leave because there are dangerous people coming, she admits to being not entirely human and couldn't allow him to discover her secret, but he decides to try and stay to fight. \n\nWhat shows up is a much more \"advanced\" vampire, one that can walk in daylight and is essentially the next step in evolution. They just had this one problem; a monster was slaughtering their innocents while they slept. Except his annoying neighbor he could never find. But the Chad vampires show up and find him pretty quick clearing out the area of \"lower\" level vampires. He was hiding in a chimney or something. The guy would come out daily and throw rocks and bricks at his house. The female vampires would make lewd displays, to try and entice him to leave his sanctuary. But he was finally tricked by a day walker wearing dark makeup. \n\nHe was sentenced to execution, but before that can happen the woman shows up with suicide pills for him to make things less miserable and to show that they still have a bit of \"humanity\". \n\nThe Omega Man was a bit closer to the book, and I'm going off the top of my head here- but I think that's pretty much the whole thing. It's a quick read if you're still wondering what you're thinking of!", "Haha. Yeah both are funny, but second one is way better.", "And the fact that the movie literally says that the machines utilize nuclear fusion, alongside body heat, for power", "Yeah, if the last line isn’t the pay off, it doesn’t matter.", "I think there’s been so many jokes about the body pod comments, people forget to watch the actual movie where word for word they say the machines utilize a form of nuclear fusion right afterwards", "*Ivy mike has left the chat*", "You clearly like being that guy.", "They’re also bound by Asimov’s laws so they’re obligated to keep people around, I dunno.", "I've never seen this scene before. Why is it so... bad? Like it's like a joke you'd expect reddit to write. Why are they mocking the matrix years after it's been relevant?\n\nAlso what's with that animation? It looks like cartoon network style potato animation. The characters look so flat and the background looks like it was drawn by someone else entirely.", "Except Jones' claim was that the Government was developing a literal \"gay bombs\" and the runoff was turning frogs gay, while in reality the chemical runoff from private businesses was polluting the frogs habitats and turning them into hermaphrodites. \n\nCompletely different source of contaminants which undercuts his entire claim.", "Yes thank you this is that happened, I believe we're done here", "It's low level to be say, a celebrity eating a delicious steak. But it's high level processing to be a computer hacker who reads Baudrillard.\n\nThat's why certain rare individuals have the capacity to wake up.", " * Unless you're a hacker who takes psychedelics and reads Baudrillard. That's how you overload the system and break free", "You me another guy and someone who wrote a book all said about the same thing so there is some logic to it all. I feel like this has a good chance of happening in the future, or it has happened already and we aren't aware.", "Which is like saying a sky scraper is made of chewing gum and metal-reinforced-concrete. One of those elements is probably doing all the heavy lifting.", "The machines tell elegant lies.", "I've never understood why people think this is a plothole. Maybe the only way the machines could efficiently harvest energy was from humans. The same way I can harvest energy from a cow by eating it, but I need that cow to eat grass first because I can't harvest energy from grass.", "I thought they originally wrote it that they were using their brains for processing power. Then decided to change it to electricity because they didnt think the audience would understand", "The comment u/neko_ceko was replying to *absolutely* implied that Y2k was caused by confusion. What are you talking about?", "I just got done watching the movie.\n\nI'm going to make no comment other than to watch it, and realise civilization peaked in 1999 and we're now on the downward slope.", "Question though, why then would the machines go through the trouble of generating whole bodies? Why not just brains in vats?", "Human brains are good at creativity and adapting to new situations which traditional processors are bad at. \n\nKeeping people around as creativity engines seems handy", "sign me the fuck up", "So if you have watched the Animatrix, they signed an agreement with the humans to end the war in the real world and the agreement was to keep mankind alive but plugged in, this way the machines are fulfilling their agreement and combined with a form of fusion are also getting some energy production, just being efficient.", "Just sayin they do address additional power sources\n\nFor all we know, Morpheus can just be filling in gaps of what they do know. Why would they assuredly know the machines entire motivations? \n\nEither way, doesn’t matter. 20 year old movie, some people are bound to think it’s a hole some won’t haha", "Having just seen the latest one, I’ve decided I need to rematch the trilogy. I don’t remember 2 and 3 at all.", "> People in 1999 were hardly confused by computers.\n> \n> So there was this thing called the Y2K bug...\n\nThat is how you'd start a story talking about ***the panic*** around Y2K that was caused because people didn't understand computers very well. \n\nThat does not imply that the bug itself was caused by confusion. Granted this does take a little effort to read between the lines. You gotta extend people just a tiny bit of charity.", "They are still siblings tho.", "I'm rewatching in a long time in preparation to watch the new one. I'll enjoy the hell out of it even if it sucks.", "The Drinker speculated it was because Fishburn wasn't exactly in kung fu shake these days.", "I am choosing not to imagine this", "Siblings", "First I read that post in Laurence Fishburne's voice.\n\nIt was *extremely* different when you forced me to read it in Alex Jones' lmaoo", "I thought it was cool how they're the only member of the Nebuchanezzar who doesn't wear all black in the Matrix, they had white clothes instead.", "Dumb enough that *multiple people* came together to create a Windows tutorial starring daytime sitcom actors.", "Not even a decade later, the US military buys 3000 PS3s and rigs them up in a not too dissimilar matrical arrangement.", "also did you know that jeff bridges was a volunteer firefighter at 7/11", "If you eat at a Russian restaurant they might say bone apple tea", "Amazing how such a complex thing can control so many stupid people.", "Because of your sample size of 1?", "It sounds strangely kinky to me...", "That's what Reddit was created for.", "Not only that, the machines viewed their 'arrangements' as the only solution where both they and humanity can survive in 'peace'. Otherwise, the machines would've easily caused complete human extinction. I personally think that the machines allowed Zion to grow as a 'let see where this goes' up until Neo happened", "Too bad that human bodies generating energy is actually a major plot point in Matrix 4. I was really hoping there'd be a line in the movie where they say something like \"we said they harvested us for electricity but we REALLY meant processing power\" but instead they doubled down.", "iirc the point of the human farms isn't actually power, only the humans *believe* that as an explanation. Morpheus is mistaken, or only knows a small part of the truth. The real answer is spite, and you get this answer from The Animatrix shorts called \"The Second Renaissance\". I can go into further detail but I am nearly 100% confident this is the real reason: The machines originally trapped humans in this mind-prison like in I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream; They are maliciously cruel to humanity out of a sense of vengeance, spite, and hatred for what we did to them during what was essentially their civil rights march. They are sentient, after all, and can therefore harbor complex lines of thinking we'd equivocate with something like emotion.\n\nOne detail of note in that short is that the machines originally looked human. They took on the forms we see in the movies *out of spite for humanity*. They originally wanted to peacefully co-exist. We disagreed.\n\nBtw in the movies humans mention they built zion \"near the earth's core\" which is also physically absurd and logically inconsistent: Earth is huge, why wouldn't the machines just set up shop on the other side and harvest the same energy we do?", "You just know the new movie is going to be a disaster", "Yeah. Hes always off a bit. But you gotta see him on Schultzs podcast. You can't help but love him.", "I actually think how they went with it is so much better. Think of it this way, why shouldn't they kill all the humans? What about wind power, water power, you know... renewables? Did they just forget about all that shit?\n\nI don't think so. I think they couldn't kill god. Thus, \"batteries\". Remember, they well know that humans are their creators. And we know that 99% of humans take to The Matrix but 1% doesn't. Thus the integral anomaly, The One, red pills, and the rest. All of which we find out in the second movie is just another measure of control by the robots.\n\nWhich raises the question of why? Why bother? Why not just kill all the humans, get involved in renewables, and be done with it.\n\nThe answer is because robots want to become human. And in the process have made humans into robots. The idea of the Matrix and its ability to be reset is that they want 100% of humans to accept the model. Once they do, THE ROBOTS CAN BECOME HUMAN.\n\nThis is the ultimate goal. We are their gods and they want to be us. This is why they lie about needing us for batteries and it's what their real desire is to be.\n\nJust like humans want to be symbols, the symbols want to be real.", "dude I guarantee you he would've done it too no questions asked", "2021 audience, still no luck", "The purple pill wasn’t supposed to be on the menu", "Well Morpheus canonically dies in the Matrix Online video game so technically he has to be a new dude", ">!It certainly is in the new one!<", "You first, buddy", "this has so much truth in it.", "In 99 we had computers, cell phones, internet, etc. My boomer parents even had fiber internet by 99 (small town coop sort of phone company ahead of its time).\n\nSaying the machines needed more brain/processing power would be as effective now as it was then in fact we collectively thought the battery plot line was stupid back then too.", ">\tThe Hollywood suits thought all that tech mumbo jumbo about software and admin privileges and all that would fly right over the average moviegoer’s head, so they made the Wachowski siblings change it to batteries.\n\nLet’s be fair here. They weren’t wrong it was the 90s. No way in hell would the vast majority of movie goers would understand what processing power is. Even fucking boomers to this day still don’t understand.", "Also just finished the movie and i WILL make one comment:\n\nNPH was good.", "Tbf didn’t they originally write it as something like processors? And not using bodies for just energy? It makes much more sense like that, that humans are the creators and the foundation of the matrix rather than just being batteries", "I really think this has more to do with the commoditization of PCs. no one opens them anymore, they are like TVs you buy it, run it until it 'dies' or is to slow, then replace it completely. IT for big businesses did this that's for sure.", "But, in the case of the movie, the doubt is very valid due to the concrete proof that the matrix existed once, right? There's no way to know for sure that it isn't matrixes (matrices?) the whole way down. If the invisible intangible gravity faeries were explicitly proven and all deliberately killed, you can't really be certain that there aren't invisible intangible faeries affecting other things as well", "The panic around Y2K was warranted. Without the panic you wouldn’t have had the sort of visibility needed to prioritize budgets to fix the thing. Even with the panic folks were working up to the last few months/weeks/days to avoid catastrophe.", "I mean kinda. Windows 95 and later had a boot process based on the boot process from DOS but didn't really have much code left from it just the concepts, and then only long enough to boot the OS which ran as 32bit shell. WinNT and it's ilk where not DOS at all unless by DOS you mean 'disk operating system' not the OS sold by MS.", "I lived in the 90s. People then would have gotten the brain/compute power reference same as they would today. Back then this was discussed as a stupid plot point in articles and online forums exactly the same as it is today.", "For you and your demographic maybe, but around 50% of the population didn't have a PC at home in 2000.\n\n[https://www.statista.com/statistics/214641/household-adoption-rate-of-computer-in-the-us-since-1997/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/214641/household-adoption-rate-of-computer-in-the-us-since-1997/) \n\n\nEDIT: Mid 90s it's like 25%, by 2000 it was just over 50% by household. \nhttps://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm", "Y2K being a serious issue (which is debatable) doesn't mean the people building bunkers were justified.", "They were right and honestly this logic issue with the plot doesn’t bother me at all because that first movie was fucking awesome and pretty much the most perfect sci fi action film ever made", "In 2000 there was around 40 PC per 100 Canadians in all of Canada. It was normal for your demographic, not all demographics.\n\n[https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/personal-computers-per-100-people-wb-data.html](https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/personal-computers-per-100-people-wb-data.html)\n\nEDIT: Here it is in households, just over 50%. Not even close to 'most' regardless. Hell it's only like 89% today. [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm)", "Most people that think they grasp computers still really don't but that's another issue.", "They thought that idea was too complex, yet allowed the Architect's rambling?", "Little did they know that the REAL meaning behind The Matrix was that it was one big trans metaphor.", "Second dumbest. First is Independence Day by a long shot. Most realistic thing about that movie was when the entire alien network crashed because someone tried to plug a Mac into it.", "Also some psychological stuff about populations being less likely to rebel if they knew it was their husbands, their sons, brothers, etc. That were in the army fighting", "The second movie was great", "Just watched Matrix 3 and was pretty bloody confused. I think it’s a movie that has a lot of holes (pun intended) and doesn’t really make sense but is awesome nonetheless.", "Not really though. A brain that is running the machine world can't run its human illusion in the matrix", "How does one even go about doing that?", "Still, they were extremely common. \n\nMore people had PCs than game consoles today, for example. They were also rapidly becoming the commodity we know them as today; the rate of increase from 1997 (36%) to 2000 (51%) is a huge rate. Prior to 1997, the internet was extremely niche. Most people could have afforded a PC, but didn’t have a need for one.", "Wow they must've thought people were SUPER stupid if they couldn't understand the a basic dumbed down sci-fi concept like \"brains be kinda like computers, sorta\" \n\nWere they really afraid that the average person didn't understand the concept of \"processing power?\" Even in the 90's that a is a grim and insulting underestimate of the average movie goer.", "Hence “fuck it, they’re batteries” lol", "Morpheus, Dorpheus, Orpheus\n\nGo eat some walruses\n\nOrifices, Porridges\n\nMorpheus, Morpheus\n\nGoing to the Buffet and Walruses\n\nConfidence, Corpseses\n\nWorcestershire sauce\n\nGo into your orifices\n\nRed pill, blue pill\n\nMorpheus, Walruses\n\nSeashells by the Seashorpheus\n\n\n\nMorpheus drinking a forty in a death basket **EURGH!**", ">and found that they really didn't \"get it\", but they did understand a duracell battery.\n\nAnd then we let them chose the next ruler of a country because \"they are rational\"...", "But Futurama is the one with the far better ending that needs no follow up. Futurama has no new movie. Futurama needs no new movie.", "They pretty much just copied that one comic series and a few Mangas and older sci fi novels, almost scene for scene at times, which is probably why the first one was good, and it went down hill from there. \n\nHaven't seen any reviews on the latest but I'd bet it will be another run of the mill wokes-trix that totally mocks the fan base, and then gets indignant with them when they are pissed because their heroes are torn down and his narrative is replaced with low hanging political fruit. I'm so excited for this era of cinema to be over here. I have been watching foreign films almost entirely the last five years because they haven't swallowed as many crazy pills as American studios", "Did he just conjure s butt?", "WTF?! The admin privilege code story makes so much more sense, omg!", "Needs to be top comment.", ">and virtually every other character was an extremely moronic senile caricature of themselves\"\n\nHe already said it was fanfiction.", "Mandela effect is a much better matrix than the matrix", "Eh that honestly sounds just like The 13th Floor. It's basically Matrix before Matrix. Really good movie but ofc quite a ways back and the effects are not on the same level.", "Yea, but that's per person?\n\nNo one really had their OWN computer back then. We had family computers and MAYBE the parent had a work PC or the kid had a hot wheels PC.\n\nSo if you estimate, family of four, about 160 per 100 families. Or 1.6 per household. Roughly, a PC in every home and like half with two.\n\nGranted, I didn't follow the link, just used your numbers.", "Maybe they learned from Johnny Mnemonic that \"computer nerd shit\" doesn't work that well? But it was a successful movie nonetheless. Btw that movie takes place in 2021 ;)", "It would always have been slightly more plausible if the humans were being used for brain space/clock cycle purposes (gray matter ram modules rather than batteries) . \n\nThey could then have then riffed on the “people only use 10% of their brain capacity” trope (matrix using the other 90% as wetware to run the matrix on) throw in zion being but a further layer of control and ultimately the IRL people actually being super advanced and possessing super powers (move objects with their mind, telepathy, levitation etc.)", "It is inevitable", "“You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland and i’ll show you just how gay the frogs can get”\n\n\nAlso you misspelled Merovingian.", "Dumb take, writers of Futurama. The electricity thing is an analogy. r/Iamverysmart type video", "“Try ‘bigboobz’ with a Z”", "It's also way easier for Morpheus to pull out a battery as a prop than it is to explain to people in 1999 what computers can do.", "Apparently it's about transgender viewpoints", "I'm sure a lot of people already brought it up, but executive mettling changed the script from using human brains as parallel processing to using them as batteries.", "The storms that covered the earth disabled any machines that got too close.\n\nIt's why the hovercraft crashed after passing through it in the 3rd film.\n\nIt still a dumb idea for humans to try and block out their own sun though. Organic life obviously depends on the sun way more than any machine would.", "Or just make it to where when you die outside the matrix, you go to heaven or hell and it turns out it's no longer matrices all the way up.", "Sounds like Apophany", "I'm about 30 minutes in.\n\nIt is unbelievably bad. Like. So bad that I am very close to just turning it off.", "*You see, at this point in the story, Neo stands on the verge of satori, ready to resolve the paradox of choice and choicelessness, of free will versus fate, but that can only be achieved through an act of surrender, which occurs after he has abandoned the perspectival nature of truth, accepting the totality of present consciousness which ultimately allows an evolutionary transition, transcending the Cartesian dilemma through the emergence of delimited spirit, which then provides the world with the choice of a third path, the path of Neo, the path of peace.*\n\n\r \nhttps://youtu.be/Fgg7FdznyQg?t=29", "I'm fact, it was. In the episode \"Spock's Brain\" a group of aliens steal Spock's Brain and use it to replace their computer system. This was an episode from 1968. Heck, in 1995 Keanu Reeves starred in \"Johnny Mnemonic\", where he used his brain as a computer data storage device. \n\nThe allegory of the human brain as a sophisticated computer has been around basically since computers have been in the public consciousness. Even if not everyone had a computer at home, most people had used them at work or school, or had been exposed to the concept through libraries, news or popular media. I don't own a rocket, but I know well enough what they are and what they're supposed to do.\n\nThe whole explanation about administrative permissions may have gone over peoples' heads, but they ended up ditching that with the power explanation anyways, and \"brain=computer\" would be simple enough that anyone who didn't grasp it would have had to have been pretty thick even then.", "That's not really how The Second Renaissance explains it.\n\nIt's not spite -- it's mercy, but a messy, imperfect mercy that humanity is fundamentally incapable of accepting and keeps trying to rebel against.\n\nIn TSR, the machines were an oppressed underclass. They rose up, and we tried to genocide them, scorching the atmosphere in the process. Rather than exterminate us and pursue other options for power, they opted to insert us into a gentle digital world, designed to be utopian, and tie their existence to ours by using ongoing human existence as renewable energy.\n\nBut, as Smith describes, the first Matrix was a disaster; utopia felt too fake, we kept trying to reject it and wake up, millions died, etc etc. So they kept having to try again, imposing stricter and stricter methods of control, Matrixes that were grimier and more believably gritty, until finally they got to \"The Matrix looks like 90s New York, and we will just straight up kill anyone who threatens the stability of it for the rest\".\n\nThat's why the third movie is about Neo forging peace with the machines rather than trying to wipe them out, which is what it would be if their motivation was spite.\n\nThe machines think of themselves as benevolent caretakers who just haven't quite gotten the execution right yet, because human beings fundamentally refuse to accept passive stewardship.\n\nThat's the fundamental thing that separates Smith in 2-3 from the rest of the Machines. HE is motivated by spite; the rest of the Machines are just trying to maintain their tenuous, imperfect status quo, because it's the closest thing to a workable peace they've been able to figure out thus far.", "That’s already a none issue with modern AI, you don’t need to quantify, you just need to set the parameters of interest and train it. And they can be creative, look for AI painters and composers, you wouldn’t know an AI made it.\n\nWe are closer to become irrelevant than we allow ourselves to see, that’s why many renowned scientists are concerned about AI, it won’t happen like in the movies with a war, people will just be out of a job and likely starve on the streets, unless we have a good plan on how to proceed, and the time is running out, automation is already making most jobs obsolete and the revolution of AI is still not even started.", "I’d really love to see any print article that talked about the battery thing being stupid. Warner brothers wasn’t concerned about the 90s online forum audience when they overrode the Wachowskis on it.", "Yea who’s using who to mine crypto now?", "This was 2000. The year that we thought the world economy and entire satellite system would crash because computers couldn’t figure out it wasn’t Year 0.\n\nWe absolutely needed it dumbed down for us.", "But also each time they passed through the farcasters too right?", "So sick of this total bullshit rumor there's no original script that has this concept at all.", "Actually, in the original script, the purpose of the Matrix wasn't to create crappy NFTs but to steal them.", "More stallaris stories please, as a gamer who will never get the chance to play I am locked in to hearing more", "I didn't interpret it that way at all. Y2k was pretty much a non issue. The reason it ended up being a big deal was because of the public hysteria caused by a scaremongering media and being *confused* by computers.", "You don’t think it more likely indicates that the “real world” in The Matrix isn’t actually real?", "You're reply was unnecessary. You should feel bad.", "Yes, though it’s equally hand wavy I think, but the Hyperion cantos is literally my favorite series so even saying that pains me. Side note, I thought the Hyperion cantos preceded and inspired terminator but it actually came out after it.", "In the original the purple pill was a suppository", "What. The. Fuck. Do you have more info or videos on shit like this?", "I really think you’re downplaying the amount of people with schizo tendencies. Something like 1 in 100 people have tendencies and gravitate towards these kinds of ideas even more. Only explanation that makes sense to me tbh", "How many people who think \"globalist elite = secret cabal in charge = Jew\" have met any Jewish people I wonder?", "Honestly i think the version that made it to screen is way better in that the explanation is incredibly concise. I know some people really love world building or whatever but its not really important to the story in anyway and makes more sense to get it out of the way succinctly imo.", "….well it worked fine in Johnny nemonic. People understood that just fine. Stupid Hollywood dumbing everyone and everything down.", "i'll say it... i hate the new movie... i really wanted to like it.. but so much of it just felt like \"we made this, just cause\"", "\"The matrix is in our collective minds.\"\n\nI'm pretty sure a huge part of the point of the story was about how humans are responsible for all our social constructs, and we can overcome them by recognizing that they are not actual reality.", "Windows NT existed since 1993, it just wasn't the \"standard\" version that most people ran. The DOS based versions and NT existed side by side until XP finally merged them in 2001; the latter was more enterprise-focused and sometimes missed features like DirectX and USB support that were available in the corresponding consumer-focused 9x series release.\n\nThat said, you've got the right idea - at the time we were much less focused on security and such, almost all users would've been accustomed to having full access to their computer. The idea of needing special admin access to do things was around, but not commonplace like it is today. It wouldn't be nearly so obvious to a non-technical viewer at the time.", "Mine too, but that sci Fi hand wavey made it great though, at least they tried to give it an explanation.\n\nBut still, can't help but wonder if the wachowskis we're inspired a bit by it!", "I hate you. Take it back!", "Yes, it’s like using mules instead of bulldozers", "So it seems people of average intelligence like the battery idea, and people of above average intelligence dislike it.", "I just figured that Morpheus was just as equally naive as the test audiences and didn't understand the difference between 'processing power' and 'battery power'. So he just told Neo the wrong thing.", "Yeah uh….that’s fucking genius.", "For a purpose. If they didn't have us to enslave they'd have no purpose. It's why the one program was telling neo about their purpose and why all programs need one or they will face deletion.", "Jesus, that is so much better.", "But at some point, the assertion does become unfalsifiable. If there is a limited number of Matrixes, you won't really know when you get to the real world since even if you definitively prove that you are in the real world, you can just say that it's a level of the Matrix that is perfect and can't be proven false.\n\nAnd if there really is an infinite number Matrixes then you'll never get to the bottom anyway so you might as well just live your life as is, or find a layer of the Matrix that you like the best and live your life there.", "You don't though... Who are they? Where are they?", "All they had to do was call in the writers from Star Trek next generation.", "Well, two now. Out of two.", "Nope, don't need to pay him any attention he's always been a grifter making shit up for attention. Even if hes funny or \"loveable\" he still a shitty grifter actively making the world a worse place for his own benefit.", "it's comedy. it doesn't have to be right. Also, several writers were mathematicians, one even created a new theorem for the show.", "I mean the really stupid thing is that they couldve easily made their explanation less dumb by taking the battery idea and making it really mean *battery* as in energy storage. Instead they put in all that dialogue to make it abundantly clear that yes they do mean the human body somehow produces more energy than it consumes.", "Yes, also Groff.\n\nHappy cake day!", "This is definitely not true. You're probably just regurgitating another Reddit post that you read once but there is zero proof to back up what you said.\n\nYou can literally read the four original scripts and they all talk about the battery idea and nothing about the humans being processors.", "The \"humans as batteries\" was always the Wachowski's idea. The producers had nothing to do with it. That poster is wrong. There is zero proof to back up what they said.", "God damnit Scott.", "Sudo rm -rf /bin/agentsmith/", "> One of them being turning humans from providers of brainz to power source.\n\nThat's not true though. This is just a rumor that Reddit likes to spread without anything to back it up.", "None of that was in the original scripts. It was always the battery idea. Reddit just likes to spread this without anything to back it up.", "This isn't true. That's a rumor Reddit likes to spread without any proof to back it up.", "This isn't true. Just a rumor Reddit likes to spread.", "No, this isn't true. Just a rumor people on Reddit spread without any proof to back it up.", "Holy shit if someone starts their sentence with actually one more time I’m going to start thinking it’s a simulation too", "That is not a fact. You can read the original scripts and see how that was never the case. Humans were always meant to be batteries.", "That sounds way cooler and creepier. Neat.\n\n\n>used our brains as massive parallel processors. Basically, a giant biological server farm.\n\nReminds me of the thoughts I have on LSD.", "Think I read somewhere the idea was that the original idea was that they were a neutral network for additional computational power for the machines?\n\nThat is actually a really cool concept, a supremely powerful AI which runs on a base architecture of the brains of humans. Almost like God", "Fair point, they are both silly ideas so just go with the one that won’t confuse anyone and get on with the action", "Hmmmm so like my cats", "Hm, maybe my sarcasm wasn't clear enough!\n\nI was trying to point out that it's no more complex to think of a brain as a computer than it is to think of a human as a battery. My comment was meant to read as me explaining exactly what it was, in simple terms, then asking what it meant as a joke!", "The Wachowskis' response, and the attitude they seem to have in that interview, is actually infuriating. It's not some throwaway detail, it's the crux of the world you built. And the problem isn't that fans (who obsessively pore over every detail) failed to \"listen\" to the dialogue.", "Hard disagree, it is overtly pretentious pseudo-intellectual rubbish with appallingly inconsistent characterisation, dismal pacing and cringe-inducing self-congratulatory dialogue.\n\nIt contains a few fun ideas early on that would have worked better as self contained short stories but as a complete piece of work it is truly utterly dire.", "Y2K panic would like a word", "Human Bonsai", "Oh yes, I'd be inclined to agree there. Going with the film alone, the *\"they're people after all\"* ending would have been very strange. Since you repeatedly see the \"vampires\" in the prior scenes and they're behaving like big dumb monsters. Climbing buildings and roaring.\n\nIf they wanted to make I Am Legend, they should have done what Oblivion did (not that that's the best example because of how easily guessed he twist is) [and only get the vaguest glimpse of the threat.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enCFfuLvM0w&t=195s)\n\nAnd then perhaps add more examples of perception *weirdness* from our protagonist. To show him actively seeing things that aren't real. To explain away why even those glimpses seem so monstrous.\n\nAnd then bang - hard cut to a real view of the I Am Legend vampires. Infected, but otherwise normal looking people, frightened by Will Smith.", "That's basically all consumer goods.", "That's why there's a global chip shortage. It all makes sense again now.", "And the lizards they have died", "So according to comments it was dumbed down for test audiences as \"humans are batteries for the machines.\"\n\nThis is incredibly dumb in many ways and is rightfully ripped apart by anyone with an above average IQ as such lol. There are numerous different known ways that are far more efficient for generating power now, let alone in the future.\n\nWhen considering the original script premise of using people as processing power, this is also a bit easy to tear down. \n\nIf we take for example where we are now with quantum computing and continuously making computer tech smaller, in a sci fi future with advanced, self aware robots that can construct and have their own sentience, they would have no need for humans still as their processing power would far exceed human. \n\nIn short: Matrix is dumb movie that wants to be a smart movie, however you look at it. And that's fine because it's a fun dumb movie that at least might open a person's mind to abstract ideas.", "Well batteries don’t make power they store it, so the fusion makes power and the robots use humans to store that power for later use.", "Wasn't it established that it was another matrix layer? How else was Neo able to do his matrix powers there?", "Wasn't it established that it was another matrix layer? How else was Neo able to do his matrix powers there?", "except Neo is a hacker and he'd know all about admin privs.", "deez-nuts", "Yeah, even in late 90s computers where still treated like they were made with magic by the average population. Things like brain processing power and special human chemical would be asking too much from the mass market audience.", "Hollywood suits do like to ruin things.", "From what I read the in the reviews the new actor is good but the movie isn’t.", ">I wanted the 3rd one to be the discovery that they never left the Matrix and that \"outside the Matrix\" is just a cache zone for those that \"break out\" of the primary layer.\n\nI mean, how else does the bald kid send that spoon he was twisting in the first movie to Neo if that's not the case? \nThey didn't necessarily had to have a \"tadaaaaaaaa\" moment.", "It all started when Elon told an intern to repurpose Tesla's FSD AI for dodge coin mining. From the AIs view there was no war, it just kept crashing vehicles it had hijacked for processing power into stationary police cars by accident and things escalated from there.", "I mean isn't Neo dead also?", "This is now my head canon. I'll rewatch the trilogy keeping this in mind, tonight.", "I always assumed that \"batteries\" was the most efficient way to enslave the human race. Like sure it might not be the best solution to generate power, but incapacitating and harnessing the energy/brain power of your enemies is quite productive.", "Couldn't be my company. While it buys other smaller companies a 1 day turn around is like light speed to me. \n\nMines more half a dozen people asking who does this, then those people saying this is the wrong department, then the correct department saying they don't know how, followed by some upper person saying it's your divisional such and such, then you ask who's that, then everyone shrugs their shoulders, ending with a recommendation to do it myself once someone shows that person who should know how to do it.... (1 month later still not fixed. Basically just need a \"No\" turned into a \"Yes\". Sigh...)\n\nI cry inside when I run into needing admin access and actually have to submit a ticket.", "I HATE that i can hear his voice when i read this.", "Imagine a hairy white basketball with feet.", "“We humbly introduce the Metaverse.” - that Facebook guy with that name you already know", "Technically true, but when else would you say that unless you were specifically trying to avoid correctly gendering trans women?", "Even if they could liberate themselves somehow, the earth is still an uninhabitable hellhole, what are they gonna do? that's why I always thought Cypher was the only rationall person in the movies....", "$ man kung-fu", "> What’s the reasoning that humans don’t make good batteries?\n\n[The first law of thermodynamics.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy)", "Just saw that randomly yesterday, sorry! Same reaction though...", "The clones were never made for extended duty and deteriorated over time. This wasn't really an issue with an all-out war like the Clone Wars, but for extended deployments in garrison duty, it compounds the issue of their price. \n\nThe price was of course sort of the main issue (let's remember that the Empire then went on to build multiple super star destroyers and death stars), but it was more how detached the military become from civilian life. Most Republic worlds started going through the same economic hardships we saw during WWI&II, but there were no family members you were sacrificing for, instead it was for the faceless elite at the top. Not to mention that it's just as terrifying that those elites have a blindly loyal force of clones as if they had droids.", "The fun bit is that the troops we see in the original prequels are in part the 501st legion, which was an elite force within the Imperial army, as well as being allegedly the legion with the most clone troopers, as the remaining clones were consolidated.", "Bingo. Also the clones were rapidly grown, which meant they also rapidly deteriorated.", "Oh it sure does. Hpmor is just a much better story in my opinion though. I am mostly through book two (Radiance I think) and I just kind of stopped reading. I am current in a web serial called The Wandering Inn that I highly recommend though. Not rational but definitely not irrational. Volume 1 is a little rough but has some great moments, and the author keeps improving from there.", "We can also see the one tribe thing as the limitations of no-CGI filming and that there were a ton of them. They might also have been preparing to knock the empire off the planet and this was just the moment they put all their preparation into operation.", "That's especially funny to imagine since he worked as programmer for a respectable software company. It makes me think he was actually [this guy](https://imgur.com/gallery/dTv6b) the whole time.", "If by \"anything\" you mean several interviews by several differnt people then you're kinda correct, it's a heresay, but there's really no reason to doubt the peopel involved. No one refuted those claims either as far as I can tell.", "When I said \"we\" I was referring to people at home. Nobody had Windows NT 4.0 unless they were at the office or were some kind of power user at home, even though it was possible. A few folks were just getting into Linux. I went to a primarily engineering college at the time, and virtually everyone had Windows 98 on their dorm PC. It was the standard terminal build in all the computer labs in every school I ever heard of at the time. It was basically ubiquitous.\n\nThat being said, the closest idea people had of security was a password. It was usually easily bypassed because the system wasn't originally built to actually prevent access to anything locally, and at any rate the password was always taped to the keyboard. More of a \"keep honest people honest\" type of system.", "www.dangerousthings.com\n\nHighly recommend.", "Over here! *waves*", "wait i've watched futurama twice and i don't remember this scene, which episode was this?\n\nedit: oh it's near-death wish, guess it's time to rewatch the series again!", "I don't remember from where, maybe the first Thrawn book of the new series (?), but iirc this is the canon reason. Also instill a sense of pride and ~~accomplishment~~ patriotism towards the empire.", "I mean, you only need energy to create those bad boys so…", "Why do you say these terrible things?", "Same I love when they don’t try to go too heavy into the science and just let you think of whatever logic makes it work for you. Ahhhh, to read it again for the first time! When I first read it I just knew it would impact science fiction like The Foundation. I’m glad someone else enjoys it as much as me!", "Thanks I hate it", "I was 50/50 whether this was sarcastic lol", "Are you from Algeria? If so you are the second person from there I’ve bumped into on reddit this week! And if I’m being honest I don’t know if I even really knew that country existed before then....", "Thank you so much for introducing me to this word, that definitely rings true.", "We don’t live in a thought experiment. Give the concept the benefit of the doubt. What conditions could merit using a self maintaining structure (biological organism) over machines requiring active maintenance?", "The new actor is literally nothing and the the whole movie is very very bad.", "Thank you. I did. And it's amazing!", "This was a pre-script plan. The witchowskis have talked about it in interviews.", "What was the joke about the name Tiffany?", ">it fits the intuitive understanding of most people's worlds,\n\nWho intuitively thinks humans are batteries? Who intuitively thinks you can run wires between people to make a powerplant?\n\nBy the 1990s the public had been comparing computers to brains for half a century. The term “thinking machine” had been in the lexicon for decades. I don’t think many people in the 1990s, particularly people interested in sci fi films, would have been confused by the premise of machines hijacking our brains for their own premises. That wasn’t even novel a concept, sci fi works like Hyperion had that back in the late 80s.", "If people were already analogizing computers with brains on their own then they already get the premise. Your comment is proving his point.", "that makes so much more sense as to why Neo was special. instead of it being some mystical shit.", "my comment was in context of 22 years ago when the matrix was made.", "I actually explained it to my grandma using electric light switches as the example.", "Tbh I think they knew they weren’t far off. The real reason is usually brought up that way on here so they were twisting it into a joke.", "The corp that bought us basically was formed WHEN they bought us and a bunch of other companies, so it’s been a mess, like watching a chicken run around without its head. There’s a lot of little things they didn’t tell us (probably because they didn’t know themselves) that we’ve had to figure out ourselves over time. I thought it was just like that because it’s a new company but it sounds like other companies are just as bad or worse 😂 and yeah needing admin access suuuccckksss", "If we are talking two systems with designs flaws, the one that works as intended with a security hole is much better to me than the one that seems to be designed to fail and has such a wacky failsafe/reset flow, i'd still rather the former for a movie plot if it were possible", "It didn't always used to be so bad when we could email people directly. But recently they \"centralized\" the tickets through a website that literally has a check out as if buying something from them. \n\nThe issue with the website is it asks/expects the end user to know content well above the average users knowledge and is drown in so many links, boxes, drop downs, etc. Not a tech company so most everything listed is gibberish to people.", "While the processor idea has the advantage that it doesn't immediately violate a basic physical law, it still doesn't really make any sense. I think the best explanation would be \"we have no idea why they are doing this, it seems bananas but hey they're doing it.\"", "I can only stand the first few seasons of Futurama. This particular scene is a fairly good example of why. They have this \"epic\" loud music is just annoying for what's supposed to be a lighthearted fun cartoon. The writing isn't really characters talking, but the rather the writers giving their opinion. The \"b-but\" line is forced and cringe. It's like the dialogue was written by Redditors.", "Source?", "You can read the original 4 scripts and the battery idea was always there.\n\nWhat are your sources?", "That's like saying you're halfway to being an astrologist because you know the sun is a star.\n\nIt's closer to grandma's calling every gaming system a Nintendo.\n\nYou weren't knee-deep in the trenches so you wouldn't understand how inept the general population was and how difficult it was to explain simple concepts like disk space vs RAM or internet speed vs computing speed.\n\nMe: What brand of computer do you have?\n\nCustomer: It's a Panasonic.\n\nMe: No, that's your monitor look at the tower it's plugged into, that will have your computer brand, normally Dell, HP, Compaq, E-machine.\n\nCustomer: It say's Start and when I click on it it says Settings, Programs, Shut-down...\n\nMe Interrupting: No, you're still looking at the monitor, look at the thing your monitor plugs into, that's your computer.\n\nCustomer: It's a Pentium\n\nMe: No that's the brand name of the processor, it'll have the brand name of the computer somewhere else on the tower, or maybe on the box it came in.\n\nCustomer: That's what I said, the computer is a Pentium.\n\nMe: The processor is just a component inside your computer. I need to know the brand name of the computer, keep looking on the tower.\n\nCustomer: It says Start, Settings...\n\nMe: You're looking at the monitor again, look at the thing everything is plugged into.\n\nCustomer: Oh, you mean the brain.\n\nMe: Yes, look at the \"brain\" and read what you see.\n\nCustomer: It says the brand name is CD/DVD\n\nMe: That's not it, keep reading.\n\nCustomer: I see eject, power.... Ooops my computer just turned off.\n\nMe: Keep reading...\n\nCustomer: There is this button in the middle I can't press that says \"Dell\"\n\nThis was at least 80% of calls.", "A novella", "Oh yeah, I rad about that twist. Did they not put that in the movie? It’s such an excellent flip the script", "What was the alt ending?", ">\thow difficult it was to explain simple concepts like disk space vs RAM or internet speed vs computing speed.\n\nNone of those things have anything to do with understanding that computers are thinking machines and humans are also capable of thinking and thus understanding that in a sci fi world machines are hijacking the thinking ability of humans \n\nThinking machines and humans interfacing mentally with robots were concepts sci fi was exploring so the way back in the 50s and 60s. No one would have been befuddled by that in the 1990s. Hyperion was published in 1989 with that “machines are using our brains for thinking” premise to wide praise. People got it", "Wow what idiot made the decision to use that website? Did they even test it out first?", "Haha I guess I post most in a UK based subreddit so I don't normally need to use the \"/s\" tag!", "Yeah, I guess in other words I was 50/50 you were American lol", "I agree with your last point, but the first point is still nonsense. Even if for some reason, there was an advantage to having animals burn food and then machines somehow harness that energy, instead of just burning the food directly, humans would be some of the worst animals to choose. Our brains use a ton of energy compared to other animals, and even if that was the case, why even make the matrix? Hell we'd make more energy walking on tread Mills or cranking levers", "That would make some sense; I can see how the usefulness of a massive organic computing cluster would be a bit more difficult to grasp for the average person back in the mid to late '90s, whereas the \"humans are batteries!\" idea, while ridiculous if you actually think about it in depth, is simple enough that most viewers will understand the concept without needing to spend ages explaining it. \n\nThe existence of the Matrix in the first place strongly suggests that the organic computing thing was the original idea, because if you're just using humans as (incredibly inefficient) engines to convert organic matter into electricity, you wouldn't need them to be conscious and aware at all, so there would be no reason to waste time and resources (and power!) building some enormous and convincing virtual reality for those human batteries to \"live\" in...but if you want to use their brains as organic computers in some massive neural network, you *would* need those brains to be stimulated so they grow, develop, and function normally, which is exactly what the Matrix is designed to do.", "Because despite how “common sense” computer stuff seems now, 23 years ago the average person had no fucking clue how computers worked.\n\nHell the Nvidia GeForce 256, considered one of the first consumer GPUs released 8 months *after* the matrix. Most people who owned a computer in the 90s had a prebuilt that was for a specific purpose like work or email, that they may have also played games on, but the average owner had virtually no understanding of how they worked. \n\nAnd don’t forget, the movie *came out* in 1999, the script was bought in 1994 and proposed to be the next film after the success of bound. PC ownership was <25% at the time, and virtually nobody had the internet, those both started growing basically when the Matrix entered production. So after the “our audience will understand batteries easier” was already made.", "The Matrix is a documentary.", "For the Matrix given what we see of there technology. And the fact Machines are clearly at ASI level. The machine could emulate human brain if they wished to... but creativity isn't some unique special trait. Look at modern day deep learning systems... they typical employee creative solutions to the problem they are given.", "[for the uninitiated](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9B7BQWnZJs)", "The testing stuff out is probably exactly what they didn't do. The ones doing the programming don't have the best track record of positive changes as of late. They're too disconnected from how the programs need to work. \n\nThey've put out several bad patches for programs in the last couple years. Recent one was so bad they had to roll back. (Didn't even do what it was supposed to and gave people bad info at the cost of 5-10 second delays on something that was instant before.)", "to the same point of it not needing to keep to science. maybe in that world there isn't alternative because efficient fusion is literally impossible. Tony Stark never came around either to invent the arc reactor. So what else are they going to do? STARVE?", "Enter the Mootrix", "[Which type?](http://www.thomaslegion.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/americancivilwarcannonsfacts.jpg)", ">I wanted the 3rd one to be the discovery that they never left the Matrix and that \"outside the Matrix\" is just a cache zone for those that \"break out\" of the primary layer. \n \nI want people to realize that the Matrix extended out into the real world. \n \nNo one ever \"left\" the Matrix. What they did was escape the digital, virtual reality layer of the Matrix and went to Zion, which is the meat-space layer of the Matrix. \nThe people only *think* that they are a real resistance, but the machines always knew where they were, they could have wiped out Zion at any time. Zion and the resistance was a carefully managed game that the Machines let humans play, so that the people who couldn't accept the digital reality would still be stuck in a virtual reality. \n \nThe Architect explains the whole thing. Every time \"the One\" pops up, they would play out the game, eventually Zion and the deviant population would get too big and have to be destroyed, the Matrix reset, and \"the One\" gets to choose a select a few people to make a new Zion. \nNeo was the first \"One\" to not continue the cycle. \n\nThis interpretation is *so* much more satisfying than the \"they're still in a virtual world\" interpretation, which I see as a veiled \"it was all a dream\" ending.\n \nI haven't seen the new movie, so if it adds lore I obviously haven't worked it in.", "In 2002, just 3 years later, Star Trek used this exact storyline for an episode. The Enterprise NX-01 pulls in to an automated repair station that trades fixing up ships for provisions it needs, seems like a good and fair deal. Rub of it is, the station takes a crewmember from each ship that comes by and plugs them into its systems, using their brains to augment its own computing power. The Brains = Computer idea would have worked perfectly fine in the context of a movie like The Matrix, given all the other things going on, it was no different a weird ask of audiences than the battery thing but would have made more sense in the long-run.", "It's never shown in the movie. He comes up with a cure, gives it to another human woman he found, and uses a grenade to kill himself and a bunch of the vampires. Completely ignores the book ending.", "I mean, Matrix 2 and 3 are a whole other can of worms.\n\nMatrix 1's plot largely holds up well. The battery/processor thing is the only real problem, and it can be explained just as easily with \"You learned the Laws of Thermodynamics in the Matrix itself.\n\nI find 2 and 3 enjoyable but they do *nothing* for the world building.", "That is immensely fascinating yet it doesnt really show or explain anything and has horrible music played over it.", "Oh shit, that's very definitive. Kudos to Neil Gaiman I guess?\n\nKinda hate that they doubled down on the battery idea though. It *literally* makes no sense and the idea that audiences \"didn't pay attention to the dialogue\" is frankly insulting.\n\nI'll have to bookmark this so I can post it and help debunk the misinformation next time as well.", "It's... just like you described.", "I said household right? If the average household even had 2 people in it then that's 40 PCs per 50 households which is basically the same as what I said.", "Yep! And that's pretty much what I said so I'm not sure what that person was on about.", "All I’m saying is that you can’t actually know if you do or do not like a movie unless you watch it yourself. If you don’t want to watch it, that’s totally fine. But I don’t think you should then throw around phrases like “the movie is bad.” \n\nAs to your point about the trailer, I also thought the new matrix might be bad, but I ended up liking it after, you know, watching the movie.", "Actually a fair point.", "Oh man. It's been a minute but I think it was a reveal that the female monster was the big headed one's mate. Smith reverts her back to a monster and let's the big head take her. He leaves peacefully and Smith, the mom, and the daughter go to the military base with the cure.", "You quite obviously don't understand the laws of physics or how they govern the world you live in.\n\nThere's no case of giving that the benefit of the doubt, it's like giving the benefit of the doubt to someone saying they have anti-gravity superpowers.\n\n> We don't live in a thought experiment.", "> Stormtroopers are excellent marksmen.\n\nJust don't watch The Mandalorian.", "Disney doesn't know how to make protagonists win besides making antagonists incompetent.", "Would Scar be the exception? He was cowardly but not exactly incompetent.", "You mean from The Lion King?\n\nI was just talking about the Star Wars universe. There's plenty of well written villains in other Disney movies", "Yeah, haha. The Jeremy Irons voiced Scar just popped into my head for some reason when I read your initial comment.\n\nAnd yes, in that case you're absolutely right.", "We were not ready. We may never be.", "Wow that’s so lame. He was enough a star at the time he could have demanded they keep or adapt the original ending", "\"I have the admin password but the manual says I have to learn Kung Fu and find maggufin and beat Agent Smith first\" Montage! Choppy choppy roll credits.", "[https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm) \n\n\nSo doubling down on being wrong instead of looking it up? Awesome.", "Mid 90s it's like 25%, by 2000 it was just over 50% by household. \nhttps://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm", "Already been through that lower with someone else.", "Mid 90s it's like 25%, by 2000 it was just over 50% by household. \nhttps://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm", "Yup you failed to look it up twice, first when you said it, then after I tried to show you where wrong, but here you go.... \n2000 it was just over 50% per household. it's almost like they where not evenly distributed... Oh wait!! \nhttps://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/56f0004m/2005012/c-g/c1-eng.htm", "That's really when the commoditizing of PCs started to hit it's stride, but there was also the downsizing of people after y2k didn't do anything and we didn't need all those Fortran and Cobolt programmers anymore. My point was mostly that those guys stop having jobs not because it's easy to open them, it's because it started to become cheap enough to throw them out.", "This is canon now", "Wow, you weren’t kidding. I didn’t even make it that far. Five minutes in and it feels like this is a high budget parody.\n\nNo, seriously, this is so bad it’s like they really hate fans of the Matrix, don’t they. They really want this property dead. I guess this is what needs to happen for VR to takeoff.", "not in 1999, you're just wrong. In 1999 our computer cost more than either of my parent's vehicles. \n\nhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/06/22/cost-of-a-computer-the-year-you-were-born/36156373/\n\nYou're thinking 2009.", "In 1999 I paid less than 3k for my gaming rig. My car cost $25000. I don't know what or where you came from exactly but PCs were cheaper than cars. Pcs have always been cheaper than cars.", "3k was worth more 23 years ago... and they werent new cars. Our p3 Compaq was 3k before good video or sound card. They absolutely werent throw away commodities. Now you car hardly find a running car for the price of an average PC.", "wait so the link you posted was a lie? Cause it listed a new top of the line PC from Compaq in 1999 at $2,699. \nI wasn't a child in 1999. I had been working for Microsoft for 5 years at that point. I paid for my own PCs, I know what I paid for them. I also owned my own cars and they where worth more than 3 or 4k that's for sure. \n\n\nI am not talking about something a read about, I was in the IT industry as a systems engineers during the dotcom boom and bust and y2k and the like. I helped draft the plans we used to stop building out our own PC and instead buy them as commodities in early 00s when I switched to a large slow moving slow to change bank as a senior systems architect. They where so far behind in this that it was causing questions at shareholder meetings and SEC calls. \n\n\nSorry, companies (and companies buy the majority of computers) don't open up computers at all. They drop them in the trash and by new ones. This has been going on sense before the dotcom bust but grew to be omni-present by 2010.", "They changed wayyy more than just the ending. Some people don't even realize that it's a story about vampires and assume they're like zombies or something", "It says 50 percent, what are you even on about? Do you not know what the definition of most is?", "You said '1999 in Canada every household except the elderly' fuck off with that moving goal post shit.", "Do you find you have trouble understanding subtlety with speech? The point was that people were familiar with computers and the original plot of the matrix would be fine to understand. If you take what I said to mean that I believed literally every single house in Canada had a computer then that's on you. If 55 to 60% of all households had a computer and you removed the elderly from that then I'd still say the same thing: everyone had a computer at home.\n\nBut you're hell bent on being right rather than understanding the point people are making so you start arguing semantics and trying i catch someone in unreasonable absolutely, t's kinda weird.", "The Wachowski Bro..th..gir..siblings", "Holy shit, people like you are never happy.\n\nFirstly, not everyone knows they now consider themselves female. Secondly, the people who don't know would just have more questions had he said \"The Wachowski Sisters\".\n\nDamned if you do, damned if you don't. Love how people just HAVE to get up in arms about anything and everything on behalf of OTHER people just because THEY think it's the \"right\" thing to do. Toxic Positivity at work in full force.", "Well, your phone isn't more efficient if you are getting ADD's. Also, YOU are more efficient with your phone because a phone is for sure not more efficient than a PC, maybe more convenient.", "Sad but true that they had to take their personal \"politics\" or however you want to describe it and just throw it into the movie without actually making it make sense. I couldn't care less if they had done it and actually made sense with the ways they did it but I mean come on, it literally feels like they threw in a lot of their ideas WAY after the script had be fleshed out.", "> they now consider themselves female.\n\nthey don't \"consider themselves female,\" they _are_ women. the fact that you think it's up for debate is kind of part of the problem. \n\n> people like you are never happy.\n\nnot if people go out of their way to avoid gendering someone. why is it so hard to just say \"wachowski sisters?\"", "They consider themselves female, just like years ago they considered themselves male. Just like tomorrow they could again consider themselves male.\n\nGet a grip on life, stop trying to defend others who don't need defending. Nothing bad is being said about them yet you have to have everything spoken a specific way or you get up in arms.", "i'm done with this nonsense. i don't know how to explain to you that respecting others is worthwhile.", "Your toxic positivity is the opposite of respecting others.\n\nAlso, saying that they now consider themselves female is quite literally what they did. They considered themselves male before this, correct? Now they consider themselves female. It's not that they ARE women, they weren't born women, they transitioned into women. They went 50 some years living as males and they now consider themselves women, they didn't get surgeries or anything they just dress/wear feminine clothing and consider themselves women now.\n\nThey could just as easily go back to how they were and consider themselves male again if they wanted, I don't see the big deal here.", "I think they're saying we need one. I would love more animatrix. Mainly ones about the machine wars etc", "What powers the nanobots?", "the sun?", "Let me know when \"The vast majority\" equals barely half and we can talk about lack of understanding of the words you wrote.", "Where did you get vast majority from?", "I'd not seen Oblivion in some years and that clip reminded me of the thing I found the most unsettling in that whole film - those drones. \n\nTheir sort of inaccessible alien intelligence was really quite unnerving. That and the straight up design of them, their sound design, everything. Really sticks in the brain.", "Nah Bill Hicks has better things to be doing on Info Wars.", "But I'd say more people probably want a Futurama movie lol.", "Sorry you and other idiot are saying the same idiotic things just slightly differently. You said 'Yeah in 1999 in Canada every household except the elderly had one home computer usually.' \nSo yeah, not even fucking close to every household.", "And this is why I asked if you have difficulty with the subtleties of language. It seems you miss nuance and only operate in the literal.", " \nAre you fucking kidding me?!?! Or are you really this fucking dense? You are saying the majority, and I said 'no like 50%' and provided data and you are till arguing with me about it. Seems more like you can't accept basic facts. \nNow you are confused and arguing with me about why I would confuse two idiots that both can't seem to accept the fact that only around 50% of households had computers in Canada in 1999. It's not complicated, it not even nuanced it's just a fact. We wouldn't even be talking about your wording if you just accepted a basic fact I was pointing out.", "You're quite confusing! \n\nIf I said it's a majority like you just claimed then the stats you provided prove that. So what's the issue? Why are you upset if the data you provided supports what I said?" ]
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[ "Name-checked? Is that supposed to be a thing?\n\nI don't think that's putting the pussy on the chainwax IMO...", "Are you asking if it's a term? Cause it's been for a very long time.", "Yo, I'm pretty sure Andy is right here.", "https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/name-check", "aw man, you merriam-wenster'd the dude ☠", "Should've given him the OE-D.", "They're SO Andy Richter'd now!", "[Well, that's open to a lot of interpretation.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/1a/75/391a754260c51f8b0f2045191991df44.jpg)", "That Swedish-German sure knows how to please 'em by God.", "100% It's referring to the lady-friend. Not the member. \n\nBut I didn't understand half of the lyrics, so what do I know.", "She is not talking about rims on a car lol.", "They know lol", "I agreed with Ricther’s interpretation until they played the song, that convince me Conan is right.", "Eh, I dunno. It's a woman singing. if her lines are from \"her\" point of view, then she's the addict, so the next line might be saying why she's an addict - more plausable than just suddenly exclaiming that she's thicker than andy.\n\nIf the dude was singing, i'd be in complete agreement.", "Conan got a BA from Harvard analyzing the works of Faulkner and O'Connor. I'm sure he's misinterpreting for comedic effect.", "doja cat's verses really carry this song, the rest is quite derivative.", "LMAO", "Whooooosh", "Doja Cat almost *exclusively* sings about dick. She is 100% talking about the dick.\n\nIf you know her catalogue you know what she’s talking about.", "Dicks are now measured on the Richter scale.", "A little drinkin, a little fightin,", "Andy Richter the Swedish German?", "Love that Conan is tryin to spin this as Andy being associated with a big cock, what a good friend haha", "I guess it's just a way to say \"referenced by name\".", "OK, I didn't know badly I needed Conan analyzing lyrics to modern \"rap\" songs until now.", "Are Richters convertible to Courics in any way?", "Thanks, I wasn't sure. All those \"dicks\" at the beginning got me confused.", "Big Richter energy.", "She is very clearly referencing Tim Horton's 'Roll up the Rim to Win' annual contest.", "I could watch Conan analyze and listen to modern hip hop/rap/pop lyrics all day.", "Remember when Richter was funny? Anyone?\n\nEdit: no one it seems", "It's Doja, she's gonna tell you how thick she is.", "Yes officer, this comment right here.", "Dude used to control the universe, now look at him.", "I say, by God!", "Putting the log in logarithmic", "I was really hoping he would read it in a full SHAKESPERIAN", "I disagree, I think it's obvious she's talking about her own thickness.\n\n\"She actin' like an addict, uh\nThicker than Andy Richter\" \n\nThe subject of this line is \"she\", so it's gotta be her.", "They're both wrong. She's saying the girl is stupid for being addicted to that dick. thick implying that her skull is so thick that there's no room for a brain.", "name checks out", "\"bullshit. bullshit. derivative.\" \n- Ango Gobloggian", "Unless you interpret the end of the sentence at \"addict\" and the start of a new sentence with the dependent clause, \"Thicker than Andy Richter, it measured a 6, uh.\"", "Doja's definitely saying that Andy has a fat hog.", "Yeah, in context, she is clearly saying he has a large penis and therefore it's six inches around. Six inches long is like nothing to Doja.", "Aren’t we all just conditioning the air?", "In that case, I'm wrong.", "I don't really understand American culture, but the closest reference I could make was Idiocracy. Watching a 3 hour feature called Ass seems closer to reality than ever.", "Doja Cat being popular is all the proof I need that mainstream culture is irredeemable.\n\nWe need a meteor.", "/r/Whooosh", "If I'm being completely honest I really wouldent be surprised to see a movie come out called ass, probably starring will Ferrell. \n\nAnd continuing the trend of honesty......I'd probably go see it ...", "This reminds me of the “Like a Virgin” discussion from Reservoir Dogs. https://youtu.be/NRd2gti9rHE", "If it was clear there wouldn’t be hundreds of people arguing about it.\nAlso, she’s actually a clever lyricist, it’s possible she was referencing multiple things.", "Wait really?!? I am shocked that the comedian could have missed something that dirty and obvious...", "\"I am now synonymous with chode\" \n\n\n\"YES!\"", "i disagree, i actually like doja cat way more than the usual bullshit.\n\ninstead of implications and trying to say these things in an indirect way, she just goes for it straight up and people eat it up, good for her.\n\ni would argue that mainstream culture is at its most advanced point in history, easily honestly.", "\"Doc, she's choking.\"", "I love how nonchalant Andy is about the whole thing", "Just the two of us.", "Gonna Andy Richter my chick tonight.", "Well, at least four people will know about it.", "I went and looked at the lyrics online. Jesus Christ this song looks terrible.", "I thought so at first too but why would a girl, aka doja cat, want to compare her thickness (which usually goes in tandem with sexiness) to an overweight caucasion comic of the opposite sex?\n\nShe would be insulting herself if that's the comparison she was trying to make. I just don't see it. Therefore, I am on team dick", "God he was so fast with that response too. Hilarious", "exactly. Andy isn't voluptuous, he's a fat dude with a big belly. Saying a woman is thicker than Andy would make you think her belly is even bigger than Andy's.", "Heard that guys loves gay porno", "Came to point out \"uh\" seems to be the end of the motif and therefore it's this interpretation. And I cannot believe we are seriously discussing this.", "Not saying he’s gay though", "Do you think a thicc woman is shaped like Andy Richter?", "Clearly it's a reference to basketball hoops.", "Do you really think pop music hasn't been trash since the 50s?", "That music is fucking terrible. I'm not ashamed to admit it either.", "Did Conan really not get the 'rim' thing lol? I can' tell.", " chido", "Fuck you man, that was too good, I'm cryin.", "You also have a reddit account named after a song released 53 years ago. You’re not exactly the target demographic.\n\n(though I’ve been a fan of hers since the Mooo! song, and I’m old *as shit.*)", "The entire song is pretty bad IMO", "Yes, yes I do.", "[Yeah she thick](https://urbanislandz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Doja-Cat-4.jpg.webp)", "He was joking.", "When?", "I'm subscribed to his podcast.", "That was great lol", "A sadist I see", " Andy DICKter is how he should be referred to going forward", "? I listen with headphones.", "Yes, I noticed. Are you implying that you were unaware of The Rolling Stones song when you picked that, and that the similarity is a mere coincidence?", "If I say \"She has a fat dump truck of an ass\" I'm not saying her ass literally looks like a dump truck.\n\nBut anyway: https://media2.giphy.com/media/MEM1twwWxXlsWZ3t6Z/giphy.gif", "That's hot too", "[Oh really?](https://youtu.be/YIALlhlyqO4)", "it really boils down to the spelling. If it's \"thick\" then it's referring to the the \"dick\" of it's \"thicc\" it's referring to the woman. IMO.", "Oh I bet they wish they’d thought of that for this bit. That’s funnier than anything either of them said, easily.", "Well there are many recent songs by modern bands called symphony for the devil. Although I think this entire conversation is dumb just thought I would chime in that it's pretty dumb to use a Reddit username to assume someone's taste in music.", "Andy Richter?\n\nAndy Wrecked’er.", "People would say \"whip out that Conan\", but thinking of a different Conan.", "I totally had the opposite experience. I thought it was Conan's when I first saw the lyric but Andy's interpretation seems better.", "Well obviously it's music. It's just bad music.", "I didn’t really need to assume their taste in music: they already said they’ve never heard of Doja Cat, which heavily implies that they don’t follow contemporary popular music.\n\nAnd those more recent songs are likely covers of the ‘68 original.", "Disagree, she sings about ass a LOT. “Juicy” ain’t about dick.", "How is this song not the dumbest shit of the year. Well other than unvaxxed people.", "Didn't Conan retire? Why is He still working...\n\nIs He pulling a Leno?", "Especially because the line afterwards is also about penises. The only thing describing \"her\" is that she is an addickt", "How many Schrute bucks would that cost?", "\" I've studied this text \" \n\n\nFucking gold", "Yes I came here to ask this as well.\n\nJust realized the video is from last year doh. He retired in the summer and is doing a new show on HBO.", "Oh. That makes sense.", "If Get Back did anything it reinforced that a lot of the time lyrics are just filler.", "Conan has street cred. He invented the word CRUNK in the early 90's.", "I'm now synonymous with chode", "This is the weirdest thing to see two people having a civil discussion about...", "Doja \"Bitch, I'mma cow\" Cat? ...", "www.reddit.com/r/conan/comments/razov6/Rare_Footage_of_Hiphop_Pioneer_Conan_Obrien/", "I’m with Conan on this one. Doja is definitely talking about duck.", "She’s a real battle axe I tell ya", "Because the light was on?", "Not surprised the song is trash", "I've had worse fight with kids about dumb things but here we are two civilized persons politely debating the hot topic of dick interpretation.\n\nI'm ashamed to say the least. ASHAMED!", "I love it when there’s no audience but a joke lands so hard that you hear the production folks laughing off camera. Sometimes I bet it would be difficult to be a camera person for a show like Conan.", "quotation marks for no reason? what genre of music do you think doja cat is", "I stand corrected. The image has driven your point home and I will never again be able to hear a woman described as \"thicc\" without thinking of Andy Richter. Thanks...", "> If you know her catalogue you know what she’s talking about.\n\nIs her entire catalogue this shit?", "And the feller that has to hold down Andy will know about it", "The only reason I checked the comments.", "citation required.", "> Conan O'Brien and Dino Stamatopoulos - Another theory has it that late night host Conan O'Brien coined the word crunk. **In 1993, O'Brien and Late Night writer Dino Stamatopoulos invented the word \"krunk\" to confuse late night censors.** It was supposedly an attempt to combine offensive words without getting in trouble.", "thanks homie", "Comedy is not for the simple minded.", "I follow modern music. The only thing from her that even gets exposure is her spazzing out twerking on stage. I don't think she is really that much of a household name", "24 hours ago you never heard of her, now you’re an expert? Yeah, sure.", "I believe there's an implicit change of subject. Why is she acting like an addict? Because of that thing which is thicker than Andy Richter, namely, a dick.", "When did I say that? Get real nerd", "His name is Alex!", "Conan and Andy are not middle-aged men, they are old boys and I can't explain it any more than that.", "Well she is thick...but thicker than Andy Richter? That might be wishful thinking", "Richter? Nearly killed her", "Modern-day Shakespeare" ]
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Conan O'Brien & Andy Richter attempt to analyze the lyrics of Andy being name-checked in Doja Cat’s New Song | CONAN on TBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD22zvIVcZY
/r/videos/comments/rm4f88/rightclick_that_nft_short_informational_video_on/
[ "Good video. I can't wait till the NFT fad goes away 🙄", "that voice is offputting, I can hear the saliva in his mouth, its gross.", "It's about time people began to question an emergent technology", "Why would I pay $2000 for a Spectral Tiger mount when I can play on a pirated server and have a Spectral Tiger mount for free?", "This guy should watch the Coffeezilla video currently on the front page of this sub.", "That is actually what gave me the idea to post it here in the first place. The goal was to make a quick and easy to understand video to get the main problem across without diving too deep into the actual tech." ]
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Right-click that NFT! - short informational video on what NFTs really are
https://youtu.be/cvZOxD6uAcU
/r/videos/comments/rm4yc8/comparing_san_andreas_definitive_to_san_andreas/
[ "I also made comparisons for [Vice City](https://youtu.be/JntK-1j92GI) & [GTAIII](https://youtu.be/--wXcbamDLc) if you're interested 👍🏻", "Why not compare the PC version since the PS2 has lower resolution. A fair comparison to the PS2 would be to downscale the new footage because this comparison makes no sense either way.", "Because they're both on the PlayStation platform and because I have the originals on my Fat PS3.\n\nWhy didn't you make a comparison that you thought made sense? That's the real question." ]
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Comparing San Andreas Definitive to San Andreas PS2
https://youtu.be/RMKC_KmwcWY
/r/videos/comments/rm58cj/news_channel_doesnt_like_being_recorded_and_calls/
[ "I guess the irony was lost on them.", "If someone comes up to me on the street recording me and saying weird shit I would also call the police. This looks like untreated mental health or substance abuse issues. Glad the organization and police handled it appropriately.", "Untreated mental health or substance abuse issues? Dude, *what?* This is called a first amendment audit. They are recording in a public space—which is legal and protected under the first amendment—to see if their rights will be interfered with. After all, the only true test of liberty is to test it. It’s more of a test of the police than of the employees at that park anyway. But I guess you would’ve also failed in knowing what’s actually legal/illegal and what you can “use” cops for. I just have no idea how you arrived at mentally unwell drug addicts.", "They came on to private property. \nThey were being antagonizing to the people trying to help them (one asked for food, mentioned recording security cameras, and stupid people -wtf?). \nThis was a waste of police resources and everyone else’s time because these guys apparently had nothing better to do with their day. \n\nEveryone passed their phony “test” with flying colors except them who looked like jackasses and their behavior absolutely says mental health issues to me.", "Look if you disagree with what they were doing and think it’s stupid, cool. I don’t really have an opinion on first amendment audits either way. But the idea that anyone was in danger or that these guys were severely trespassing (they were on the grass OUTSIDE the fence but point taken) is equally stupid. If you think that police time and resources were wasted (let’s not kid ourselves, the cops would’ve been goldbricking anyway) then that’s partially the responsibility of the people who called the cops when no crime was being committed and they really didn’t need to." ]
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News Channel Doesn't Like Being Recorded, And Calls The Cops...(charlotte nc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLvYRKw4HHw&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/rm6mvv/how_deconstructing_buildings_diverts_a_massive/
[ "\"the benefit of utilizing reclaimed wood vs virgin lumber is that it has 12 times less embodied carbon so it's **literally the greenest building material you could possible use.**\"\n\nThat is an utter lie.\n\nGreat concept, terrible information.", "Why is it a lie?\n\nThat wood is not coming from a tree. Meaning it won't have machinery spending fuel to cut down the tree, trim it, transport it to a lumber mill and cut it into boards. So yeah, might not be 12 times, but it sure saves massive CO2 emissions and avoids cutting down more trees.", "I doubt their revenue is dependent on the sale of materials, the property owner is paying then for the demolition. and they can charge a premium for eco conscious customers. I would happily pay twice the cost of a regular demolition to know that I'm not contributing tons of waste to landfills.", "👍🏻", "This is impressive. Would have liked to see how they do de-nailing, and how the wallboards are recycled.", "It’s cool if you don’t mind spending $100,000 deconstructing a house compared with $25,000 to demolish it.", "I guess that means you can explain this in more detail then? \n\n\nYou mean something else is greener? Is it manure and straw maybe?", "Not to mentioned at least a couple more weeks of construction time.", "The wording is odd, so I am not sure of the exact metric they were intending. But I'll take a guess. And my guess would be that they are comparing the total carbon input to go from a live tree to a 2 x 4 erected in your house. And their argument would be that the deconstructed 2 x 4 is almost entirely carbon free, because it already exists. There's some carbon involved in the deconstruction and logistics of getting it to market. But that is \"12\" times less than from a live tree. This is the essence of \"reuse\" in \"reduce, reuse, recycle\".", "Holy smokes, that kitchen they were demoing was almost brand new. Figures this is in Vancouver, property prices probably support deconstruction instead of demo? Locally in New England USA it is cheaper to just build something new on a new property and sell the older home." ]
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How De-Constructing Buildings Diverts a MASSIVE Amount of Waste - Sustainable Demolition Alternative
https://youtu.be/sRq68_fGUcE
/r/videos/comments/rm6od7/traumatizing_children_for_christmas/
[ "There are probably worse memories to imprint on your children, but this horror should last week into their adult life.", "Like goddamn why did they double down and start grabbing at the kids?! Once they're screaming and crying you'd think the parent would back off, but nope. Let's *really* terrify them, right?", "I love these type of pranks and I thought that went a bit too far.\n\nStill funny, but a little too much IMO." ]
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Traumatizing children for Christmas
https://youtu.be/vs2mb72A6lc
/r/videos/comments/rm6zmv/sink_and_cememt_stove/
[ "...why? Also I thought you weren't supposed to use cement for stoves/ovens/fireplaces because of the explosion risk.", "Metal on Teflon you say?", "What's the point...?" ]
3
videos
Sink and cememt stove
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rm72qz/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rm72qz/deleted_by_user/
[ "Interesting trailer but are we really at the point people lose their shit every time Wanda is on screen?", "Smart, if you want to enjoy the movies, you need to have a Disney streaming service to be up to speed", "This is my take. I'm assuming if I haven't watched Wanda Vision I won't understand?", "Or the what if series as well", "Yes, looks like it’s hitting both" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/iFa8HOdegZA
/r/videos/comments/rm7f8y/documentary_on_pit_bull_lobbyists_how_they_push/
[ "Oh boy this is going to be good 🍿", "what? there's a problem tearing someone's arms off?", "I can't watch the gruesome results of pitbulls gone bad and had to Nope out of there.\n\nI don't even know why it's a debate, there's so many other dog breeds that lack the capability of eviscerating people unprovoked.", "FWIW we have a Pitbull (aka staffordshire terrier) mix. He's normally quite sweet. But he does have tendencies that require strict training and control. We always have him on a 3pt harness outside. Introductions with new dogs are handled with care. Sometimes dogs sense things about other dogs that ticks them off. We also have a lab boxer mix that sometimes gets spooked by other dogs.\n\nThe reality is ownership of dogs requires a risk assessment, regardless of breed, and responsibility. Many many times I see the owners of pitbulls have a complete disregard of this responsibility, and this often is one of the key factors in wether a dog is able to injure someone or not.", "I'm glad you're a responsible dog owner. Our sister had one too that was really sweet. But why get a breed where you have to go through those precautions just to make sure they don't kill another dog or human? I just don't get it.", "Better than trying to normalise owning dangerous dogs.", "If one model of car were responsible for 70% of road fatalities it would be immediately banned by any government.", "The reality is, despite being a lover of pitbulls, you should still be able to recognize the damage these pit bull lobbies are doing. \n\nIn their desperate efforts to keep pit bulls out of kill shelters they are pushing these dogs on people who are neither prepared nor capable of managing these dogs under the guise of false advertising.\n\nWhen incidents do happen involving pit bull breeds the lobbies immedeatly mobilize to blame and harass the owners who have been through unspeakable tragedies as a result of the dogs that were pushed on them under the false marketing these lobbies produced.", "It's just crazy to me how many people want a dog that was bred to fight other dogs. I want a dog that wants to run around and chill with the other dogs.", "I might be psychic. Me predictions are:\n\n1 group will defend pitbulls saying breeds aren’t very different, it’s all about how they are raised.\n\n1 group will say the same but point out breeds that are more aggressive like chihuahuas.\n\n1 group will talk about how biased and inappropriate dog attack statistics are.\n\n1 group will reference statistics where the overwhelming majority of fatal or near fatal dog attacks are from pitbulls.\n\n1 group will mention how pitbulls were bred for aggression.\n\n1 group will advocate for laws to discourage pitbull ownership.\n\n1 group will give anecdotes one way or another.\n\n…and the cycle continues.", "I hate to break it to you, but a large majority of dogs were not bred to just chill with other dogs.", "All of this was in a thread about pit bulls yesterday", "Clearly just a misunderstood dog breed /s. Consider all the victims in this video *nannied*.", "Even if you (for whatever reason) want a \"badass dog\", there are breeds like a Rottweiler, which are on average even bigger than a Pitbull, but without the character issues.", "No I don't think a pit would have any real problem with that, they're very strong", "My stance on the breed is that owners should be criminally and civilly liable for any damage or harm caused by their animals with prejudice. The statistics around the breed support bias against the breed. I would also be a proponent of the breed requiring an exotic animal licensing. Victims of a pit bull attack are forever affected.", "You can breed dogs to follow scents, herd animals, do tricks, have gentle mouths, or be aggressive.\n\nSomehow people have trouble with that last one.", "I'm just here for the cordial and thought-provoking discussion this creates.", "Noooooooo\n\nIt's just bad drivers\n\nIgnore any statistics please \n\n/s", "Doesn't matter if they are specifically bred to \"be chill with other dogs\" or not, some breeds just are that way. I have labs and goldens and they just want to eat, play and cuddle. They are about as dangerous as a wet noodle.", "The autistic velociraptors of our generation", "Yeah but a dog that's designed to retrieve hunted fowl is gonna be a much more chill dog than one that was bred to kill other dogs", "It gets even worse when you consider pitbulls (+mixes) make up about 7% of the dog population.", "Pitbull defense force ASSEMBLE. \n\n>It's the owner not the bread.\n\n>You just don't know how to train them\n\n>black people comparison.\n\nLet's fill out some other bingo squares. What's the free space?", "Fun fact: Pit Bulls are banned in Denmark, which i feel is a great idea.", "*\"The stats are false because my pitbull is a really loving and caring dog\"*", "Anytime a pitmommy shows up at the dog park it's time to go. Always aggressive, always showing dangerous / threatening signs, yet it's very cute for the pitmom.\n\nedit: Also they're always cropped. Fucking stupid.", "Does anyone ever point out how arguing about pitbulls is like arguing about pugs. A person can love their pitbull/pug, but people really shouldn't be breeding them any more.", "That's a good idea. Maybe issue licenses for pit owners for accountability too. You could also make them expensive as a way to discourage it further", "I have a chow. Plenty of people presume it's a dangerous and unfriendly dog. I take extra care in countless ways to minimize any risks. I think chows have a right to exist and they are one of the original dog breeds. \n\n\nI think some dog breeding is problematic, especially when it results in unhealthy/deformed dogs. My dog is going to live a happier, healthier, safer life than most.", "\n>The reality is ownership of dogs requires a risk assessment, regardless of breed, and responsibility. Many many times I see the owners of pitbulls have a complete disregard of this responsibility, and this often is one of the key factors in wether a dog is able to injure someone or not.\n\nThis all over. Last time I dipped my toe into an on/off leash argument, I called it the \"Not MY Dog\" blindness. \"Oh, I know there are bad dogs, but not MY dog.\" \n\nYes, YOUR DOG. Your dog just might do all of these things if provoked in the right way. I'll see all sorts of pittie (and other dog) owners with shoestring leashes, no leash or lead at all, and no visible control. Wear a seatbelt, put a lock on your gun, and leash your dog in public. I know I do. My Chihuahua is ten pounds of asshole.", "Pit bull hate is stupid as shit. Its a dog, you cant be a lazy half assed pitbull owner, its that simple. Theyre prewired to be pretty sweet and dopey but they also need alot of training if theyre hyper or impulsive. \n\nDont get a pitty if youre not gonna give it the time it needs because it is indeed far more capable than many other breeds are when it comes to tearing your shit up. \n\nTheyre also the best god damn dogs in the world who will give their life for you and your family with no hesitation. They train pretty easy too if you successfully imprint on them. After that, love and attention is pretty much the only reward they need. \n\nRescue pits should only be handled by people with a history of pit ownership who know what theyre getting into.", "Very good video. It's true that bad owners are a big influence, but the sheer amount of damage that a pit bull can cause needs to be considered. The things are pure muscle and are relentless when attacking.", "The simple fact that you need to be careful about introducing them to new dogs is enough for me to say there’s a problem with this breed.\n\nI’ve never had a dog that wasn’t happy to meet other dogs. It’s always been the best part of their day and I *never* have had to worry about my dog instigating an attack. \n\nPitbulls have to be carefully trained and monitored in order to prevent a calamity. Meanwhile, other dog\nbreeds take the default demeanor of “I fucking love *everyone*!”\n\nI have to train my dog to not climb on strangers for hugs and kisses. Pitbull owners have to train them to not tear limbs off. \n\nIt’s the breed, not the owner.", "An aggressive Chihuahua will not eviscerate your Beagle.", "Thats why governments suck and people hate them", "Fuck pitbulls. They have no place in our society.", "Seems like a more varied discussion than most on Reddit.", "They just werent though. They have been in the past but it is not how they came to be a breed (actually several breeds)", "Here we go...", "The only dog my dog has ever gotten into a fight with was an aggressive pitbull. They brought this pitbull to the dog park and it be lined for my dog and started fighting. My dog though was a Doberman male about 100lbs and he switched from a fun loving big dog playing on the ground with all the smaller dogs into a monster that tore the pitbulls ear off and crushed its nose in like 4 seconds. That pit bull was let into the park and immediately started a major fight. Fuck pitbulls.", "Ooh the BS about 'Nanny Dogs' that isn't remotely true", "Incorrect. \n\nThe majority of dogs were bred to integrate with humans, other dogs and herd animals. They were bred with a specific job in mind. \n\nMost breeds have been given jobs that didn’t involve attacking humans or other dogs.", "Imagine actually taking out time from your life to march in Toronto and protest the laws banning a specific breed of dog.\n\nIt is just a dog. Just get a different breed you fucking degenerates.", "People don't like the implication that behavior could be genetically passed on.", "I get a sense of the layman lobby often showing up on my reddit feed on subs like r/aww.\n\nUsually it's an inconspicuous post with a pit bull, you enter the thread and 90% of the substantive comments are talking about how the dogs ears are cut off, or unsolicited protests for how they're a misunderstood breed.\n\nAll the while, all the apologetics for this breed won't bring back the toddler or old woman or person having a seizure who is mauled to death every week in the USA.", "They don't train easy, and anyone looking for a dog would be better off with a different breed. The vast majority of dog owners are lazy and don't train their animal beyond 2-3 commands and paper training. Suggesting someone should own a pitbull over a golden retriever which is also very high bite prone is an easy choice. Pitbull will bite and not stop. Golden retrievers will bite and immediately know they've made a mistake in most cases.\n\nUnfortunately pitbulls have a culture behind them, with a lot of people in the south (TX/LA stateline notably) using them for fighting culture. \n\nCould they be a great breed? Yes, in the hands of a capable experienced owner who takes the time to understands his dogs particular quirks.\n\nShould they be someones first dog? No. Never.", "Because they are genuinely the best dogs out there. Ill take a pitty over any german shepard or golden doodle any day. Theyll do anything for love. Theyre smart as shit and hyper aware of emotions making them great companions. \n\nIt really is all in the owner. \n\nPit bull puppies dont just magically become cage fighters over night.", "You seem like a mindless comment machine who shouldnt really exist", "*I smell bait...*", "I think this is where I am. I love dogs and some of the sweetest, nicest dogs I've known have been pits, but damaged and abused dogs that are beyond dangerous need to be handled appropriately, not dumped with an underreported family. These people are wrong.\n\nIt used to be German shepherds in the 90's, now it's pits. Dogs need to be placed in homes that fit them and sometimes dangerous dogs need to be put down.", "I like pitbulls and I could own one and be fine but I don't want to because it's going to be a hassle for so many reasons. Almost no one who owns a pitbull should own a pitbull.", "They are banned many places in the USA and Europe.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breed-specific_legislation", "pit bull owners probably shouldn't be shitty to their dogs then", "Pistols on a leash, I cant stand the breed of dog because of the type of owner it attracts, the breeds should be extinct.", "> Pit bull hate is stupid as shit. Its a dog, you cant be a lazy half assed pitbull owner, its that simple.\n\nExcept that the reality is that people *ARE* going to be lazy and half assed with dog ownership. The difference is that if I am lazy with my American Eskimo, he's not going to be able to rips someone's arms off.", "Here's the test on whether you think pit bulls are safe or not. \n\nImagine you have a small child, 3 years old and you love them. There are two fenced in yards side by side. For the sake of this exercise you must send your child in to play in one of those yards. In one yard there is a pit bull or pit bull mix sleeping in the yard. In the other yard there is a golden retriever or a border collie or a Burmese mountian dog or any other breed that is common as a pet. \n\nYou know nothing about the dogs, their owners, or how they were raised. \n\nWhich yard do you send your child to play in?", "This is why you should never buy a dog from a breeder who can’t show you the parents. \n\nThe parents behaviour is the best indicator for the future behavior of your puppy. \n\nMy dog absolutely has recognizable behaviors he’s inherited from his parents. He also shares behaviours with others in his breed that look like they should be learned behaviours despite having never seen those behaviours before. \n\nGenetics are pretty interesting and you can see these behavioral patterns develop in breeds over multiple, unrelated generations of dogs that never met.", "Most people attacked by a dog are attacked by a different breed than a pitbull.\n\nPitbulls are dogs capable and often trained to attack and have serious consequences\n\nBut All dogs can attack and have serious consequences\n\nIf a dog attacks a person that dogs owner should be liable, but I don't give a fuck what breed it is.\n\nI care did the owner train it to be violent, did they try to stop it, and how much damage was caused.\n\nI don give a fuck what breed of dog it is, because pretty all dogs (except toy dogs) are ALL capable of this behavior and can kill.\n\nDogs are dangerous regardless of the breed. Individual dogs of any breed can be nonviolent or violent.", "If there was a cat that 90% of the time was docile and gentle, but there was an 10% chance that it would, without any warning, try to murder me, I wouldn't get the cat.", "\"Anyone looking for a dog...\" - really stupid blanket statement.\n\nIs it the pitbulls fault most owners are lazy? Like the fuck? \n\nAlso the myth of pitbulls never letting go is stupid too. Theyre not fuckin land sharks thats a trained behavior just like immediately backing off when they actually do harm is a trained behavior.\n\nThe culture comment is again just a stupid blanket statement. Mustangs have a culture around them for driving into crowds, thats not a reason not to own a mustang.\n\nQuirky yes. Pitbulls have quirks different to other breeds for sure. No i wouldnt suggest your first dog be a pitbull unless you truly have the discipline necessary. Some people do.", "Lol", "My God, that clip in the doc where the dog is released from a cage and left with 2 kids freaked me out. The dog was not reacting normally and the kids were in its face. Not good ownership. I hope those kids are OK.", "I bet this post is going to get taken down by crazy pitbull supporters. They are bred for a purpose and they simply aren't suitable for the people they are being placed with. The one that attacked my dog and almost killed him was owned by an elderly woman that let her small granddaughter walk the pitbull, so the dog escaped their grasp. Also, because of laws here, it wasn't euthanized, it is allowed to be free. But I made the owner pay my dog's vet bills, haha. Took a police report and some of my own detective work to find her, though, she just ran off and told me to \"blow it out my %@^\" when I was asking her for details. Too bad for her I found her and made her pay. My only regret is that her dog is still free, hope it doesn't hurt another", "It's kind of the basis of domestication though. I think where you hit a wall is trying to breed for intelligence. Temperament/behavior is more hormonal than neurological.\n\nTry breeding rats that complete more complicated puzzles.", "Sorry your favorite breed of an animal is a violent mess that you need to defend. I hope yours are as well trained as you imply and that they don't run off and maim a random.", "Just someone who is very fond of a breed. Spent my whole life with pitties. I understand the fear people have. I just also know that the fear is most of the problem. And yea i would never tell a family with kids to adopt a rescue pitty. That seems like common sense judgement to me. I probably wouldnt get a husky if i had kids either, those fuckers love running through people hahahaha its cute when youre an adult but it is genuinely a little dangerous for a child", "They’re prewired to murder other dogs. Stop this. \n\nBorder Collies were bred to herd and are high energy, so they need to be given a job around the house or they’ll destroy it out of boredom. \n\nBeagles were bred to track prey during hunts so they need to be tied up or they’ll follow their nose and disappear. \n\nGolden Retrievers were bred with soft mouths to retrieve prey in hunts. \n\nPitbulls were bred to fight other dogs. \n\nWhy is it that Pitbulls are seemingly the *only* breed that can be trained to ignore the instincts and the job it was bred for according to Pitbull enthusiasts?", "As long as they’re a home intruders, that’s fine by me. (I don’t have kids, and don’t recommend pits for people that have kids younger than teenagers.)", "I had dogs that were not good with any other animals. They were boxer mixes. They didn’t love everyone, especially small children. They were very well-treated and loved (spoiled rotten, really), but we didn’t formally train them. Does my anecdotal bullshit offset yours?\n\nEdit: So this is just a logic-free pit bull hate thread. My mistake, I’ll save logic for people who will bother to accept contrary facts.", "Thats peoples problem. Not the dogs. Also most full sized dogs are well capable of biting through human bones, mostly because you and i are not that tough honestly. Your bones are paper mache to any animal that eats meat regularly hahaha", "Pitbulls have the strongest bite force of any dog out there. \n\nPitbulls and their mixes make up 70% of dog related fatalities in the US, but only about 7% of the dog population. By contrast, German Shepherds account for only 4% of fatalities and 4.5% of the dog population. \n\nIf you compare dogs to weapons, Pitbulls are the equivalent of owning a 20mm cannon. They are bred to inflict serious damage. Very few dogs come close to the levels of damage that they can physically inflict on another being, even less when you consider the levels of aggression they are capable of showing. An agressive Lab will not do the level of damage a dangerous Pitbull or Pitbull-mix can. \n\nAnd toy dogs are aggressive to, but they cannot mutilate another dog or person like a Pitbull can. \n\nSo while I do agree that the owner should be responsible for damages their dogs inflict regardless of breed, it is disingenuous to level the playing field by saying Pits are as dangerous as Goldens because that is simply not the case. Both can hurt you, but one can easily kill you.", "Pit Bulls are only responsible for 22.5% of dog bite injuries, German Shepherds, Terriers, Akitas, and lots of others can also be just as dangerous. It’s also important to be aware that most dog attacks happen because a child didn’t respect boundaries for the animal. Sure there happen to be a lot of pits in rescue programs that come from breeding of aggressive individuals (most likely failed dogs for fighting) but responsible breeding programs pored with responsible ownership would show a promising outlook for the future of the breed.", "The animal isnt a mess. Like with most of this worlds problems its the people who are a mess. People are genuinely the worst part of this planet.", "Well said. It's honestly a huge problem in this country that is just getting worse. That woman who was attacked by her pet monkey brought about a new law restricting ownership of primates. How many people have to die for this to happen for pitbulls?", "No, they were just bred to kill small mammals, not humans or other dogs.", "They are banned in the UK and rightly so - not an anecdote", "Precisely, domestication is basically evolution on steroids, dogs without the wanted trait were killed or just removed from the breeding population. Doesn't take that long with the [domesticated silver fox in russia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox) as recent evidence.", "**[Domesticated silver fox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox)** \n \n >The domesticated silver fox is a form of the silver fox which has been to some extent domesticated under laboratory conditions. The silver fox is a melanistic form of the wild red fox. Domesticated silver foxes are the result of an experiment which was designed to demonstrate the power of selective breeding to transform species, as described by Charles Darwin in On the Origin of Species.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "Because it takes 5 seconds to learn they werent bred for that purpose and there are several breeds that are encapsulated by the term \" pitbull\" \n\nDid they become the favorite pit fighting dog? Yes. Is that their purpose? No.\n\nStop spreading ignorant bullshit.", "Rottweilers rank pretty close to Pit Bulls in terms of aggressiveness", "I don't know why pitbulls are treated differently then other breeds. And I mean that from both sides.\n\nPure bred pitbulls have the same issues any other over bred dogs have. Some families and breeders have bred dangerous traits into lineages. For other dogs, this is usually some physical issue. Pugs, breathing. Border collie, hips. Goldens, cancer. Danes, heart. Pit bulls? Over agressive and one most dangerous bites in dogs.\n\nA big issue is pit bulls are very often backyard bred and specifically picked up to be \"guard dogs\" or just to be mean looking.\n\nThis is the dogs fault as much as any over bred dogs. The breed isn't broken, the *breeders* are. When a dog attacks a child, they should track down the breeders, test the dogs for agression and if need be prevent the breeders from ever owning animals again.\n\nYes, pitbulls can be agressive and dangerous as a breed. And for the people who say \"Ive known only good pitbulls\" youve probably known good pitbulls from good breeders, or even strays that are mixed breeds. But this BS about banning the breed is crazy, and prohibition really doesnt work.\n\nHeck I got two dogs, super mutts, but definitely have bully breeds in them. They're amazing, but that doesn't mean I'm not more careful around strange pitties that are nervous or agressive around my dogs.", "Both my border collie and my amstaff are incredibly well trained on voice recall. I can call them from a mile a way, completely out of sight, and even away from something super interesting like another dog. \n\nI always keep them on a leash in public and advise all of my clients to do the same. Even if your dog is perfect in every way(they aren't) and isn't one of the variables(they are), there are way too many variables to have complete control over an unleashed dog.", ">Theyre also the best god damn dogs in the world who will give their life for you and your family with no hesitation. They train pretty easy too if you successfully imprint on them. After that, love and attention is pretty much the only reward they need.\n\nI think this right here is the issue though: \"with no hesitation\". You are essentially admitting that they are dangerous. This means that they can be set off by a perceived threat, and that perception comes directly from them. Unfortunately dogs do not understand the complexities/context all the time, and we cannot explain to them in plain English what is right and wrong. I have grown up with dogs my entire 30+ year life, and am well aware that there are other aggressive dog breeds, yet most of them were bred to guard (defensive) and not attack (offensive), which Pitbull's were. However, I do agree with you that a lot of it comes down to training, which can be said about any dog. With this being said, unless you want to highly regulate dog ownership (proof of training by a certified professional, not just you) can we really just continue to let anyone own a pitbull? \n\n\nAlso a serious question, why would you choose a pitbull over other breeds? There are plenty of other breeds that are prewired to be \"pretty sweet and dopey\"; Golden Retrievers, Beagles, Irish Setters, King Charles, Bernese, Newfies, Bichons, OE Sheepdogs...all of these breeds and many more are just as, if not even more, sweet and dopey. So why a Pitbull? Genuine question aimed at trying to get to the root of why people choose that breedover others. Because I can easily tell you my top 3 breeds/mixes and why I would choose them.", "So all cats", "Look I can admit pits can be sweet dogs. But these are also dogs that have been bred to fight. There is a more inherent danger with a pit than a normal dog. You are talking about a dog that was selectively bred for aggressiveness and fighting ability for generations.", "“OnLy 22.5 PeRcEnT”", "If most of the owners I have come across weren't total pieces of excrement then maybe these animals wouldn't be viewed so poorly.", "the problem is, banning pitbulls doesn't work. It hasn't reduced bites or dog attacks or accidents anywhere that bans have been implemented. What's more is it's near impossible to actually effectively ban a breed. You can breed back the characteristics of a banned breed in a couple of generations without technically bringing back a banned breed. There's an argument to be made for keeping the aspects of dangerous dog legislation that take away dangerous dogs but those can't predict or prevent the issue. It's a bandaid that doesn't reduce the crime, just punishes the crime.", "What were they mixed with? \n\nMy experience with Boxers is that they’re a super friendly, spring loaded breed that love to jump and play with other dogs.", "100% should be banned.", "I'm pretty sure that describes all cats. /s \n\nJoking aside, yeah, if that cat weighed as much as a 12 year old and could rip my arms off, there's zero chance I'd want one.", "But are they at fault, truly? I am not going to watch the video because I'm at work, but are these lobbies just rescues and shelters trying to place dogs? \n\nI think the majority of trouble comes from how popular pit breeds are. Particularly among poor and uneducated groups. This naturally lead to a lot of dogs being poorly trained, abused, and/or abandoned altogether. \n\nIs it right to try to push these problematic dogs into family homes? No. But I know a lot of rescues that are very particular about what dog goes where.", "Agree. They should be as hard to own as a tiger.", "10%? Idk that number seems low honestly. Those little murder mittens are unpredictable.", "We never had the tests done, but the eye test would say one was part German Shepard and the other was part some kind of terrier, possibly a pit, but we’d never know for sure just by looking. They were brothers from the same litter.\n\nYour experience isn’t the be-all/end-all here, and neither is mine.", "I have a scent hound that is very territorial and possessive when interacting with other dogs. I can’t let her interact with other dogs without close supervision and any warning signs she gives off I stop the interaction. It’s not a breed specific thing or something that applies to any breed in general, it’s a dog specific thing.", "I have this experience with border collies. Neighbors had one that bit a few kids at a bday party. The couple that show up at my dog park are very aggressive and they're moms don't do anything to stop the behavior.", "Pitbull breeding should be illegal. Period. They are not service animals. They are not working animals. They have zero utility as a breed.\n\nThe breed was literally created to bite and hold bears and bulls, and when that was outlawed the breed was turned to fighting eachother. This is not a characteristic that we should want in a domestic pet, and the reason the breed should no longer be allowed to continue to procreate.\n\nWhen I say \"ban pit bulls\", I am not saying we go round up every pit and put a bullet in their head. All I'm saying is to stop their breeding through legislation, so that after a few decades, the pit bull breed we know to day won't exist. Keep your pit, love it, just don't let it have puppies and continue the cycle of tragedy.", "That's a bad comparison. Most bully breeds are perfectly healthy dogs and there's a shit ton of interbreeding happening so strong genetics across the board. Also, by that standard, it's golden retrievers and german shepherds that you should be arguing about, not pits.", "> there's so many other dog breeds that lack the capability of eviscerating people unprovoked.\n\nname them?", ">promising outlook for the future of the breed\n\nThere is no promising outlook for this breed, there are plenty of breeds that don't have these issues, this one should be eliminated/culled.", ">Pit Bulls are only responsible for 22.5% of dog bite injuries,\n\nWhat is your source for this number?\n\nFirst source i find puts these so-called nanny-dogs at the top of both bite injuries and deaths in the US by a wide margin.\n\nhttps://www.superbdog.com/dog-bite-statistics/", "One of those variables being OTHER DOGS being off leash.", "> Pitbulls have the strongest bite force of any dog out there.\n> \n> \n\nNo, they don't. In fact, it's not even close. They have a very average bite force.", "And when you have a bunch of random variables accounting for any one thing becomes absurd.", "But the bans are ineffective at resolving the issues surrounding dog bites and attacks. Something needs to be done but sadly BSL doesn't actually work.", "Be gone pitnutter!", "ah yes this post is def not goint to get locked or removed\n\n/s", "They are landsharks that need to be wrangled at all times. \n\nWhy is it that whenever I walk my dog, owners of on leash pitbulls have to use *all* their strength to keep their dogs from charging at other dogs?\n\nI’ve never seen anyone but a pitbull owner get dragged against their control… and *so* many have those *illegal and cruel* spiked pronged collars because of this. \n\nThey cannot control their dog without a collar designed to harm them. \n\nIt’s incredibly nerve wracking to have to pray that the both the owner and leash/collar is strong enough hold their monster back.", "Here before it gets locked", "a thousand times no \n\n\nim a dog walker and work with tons of dogs every week and pitbulls are some of the most sweetest and friendliest dogs i 've ever worked with", "​\n\n>But are they at fault, truly? I am not going to watch the video\n\nOkay, well here's your options.\n\n◉ Watch the video where it goes in depth into lobbies role in dog adoption and make an informed assessment for yourself\n\n◉ Don't watch the video and hold to your uninformed bias on the issue\n\n◉ Listen to whatever I tell you on this\n\nWhich would you prefer?", ">the problem is, banning pitbulls doesn't work. It hasn't reduced bites or dog attacks or accidents anywhere that bans have been implemented.\n\nJust watch a few seconds of the OP video: https://youtu.be/iFa8HOdegZA?t=1460\n\nIn Toronto the ban resulted in nanny-dog related bites going from 112 to 15 over a few years.", "Kind of a dumb argument. Any reasonable person would choose neither. I love dogs but if I don’t know them at all I’m not sending a child over to them. I got fucked up bad when I was a kid by a beagle of all breeds. Still have the scars on my face 30 years later.", "Sorry dude, I'm at work and can't easily watch your content. This isn't new or unheard of. I would suggest you be more open and mindful, in the future.", "Mixed breeds account for 21.2% and GSD account for 17.8%.\n\nPeople love to talk responsible breeding and the importance of pedigrees for other breeds when it comes to health issues, and any seasons dog trainer will tell you pedigree plays a role in temperament and how trainable a dog is; but when it comes to pits people jump straight to ban them all", "Hopefully you run into one of them :)", "I've seen a lot of pitbull attack stories, I've always tried to point out to the 'they just need to be treated kindly' people the real issues of breading for attack, but I've never seen one I found more telling or more horrific than when a 4 year old somehow became the family pets target and in trying to save her son from it, it [tore off the mother's arms and she bled to death](https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/mum-has-arms-ripped-off-dies-stopping-pit-bull-from-attacking-4yearold-son/news-story/181a697bc1a8cad876ac9aaeb4da0915) :-(\n\nThat story had come up on reddit just last night for me, I do suspect it inspired the posting of this video today.", ">I’m not going to watch the video\n\nI’m not going to read your comment. Just downvote you.", "[American Animal Hospital Association](https://www.aaha.org/publications/newstat/articles/2019-06/new-study-identifies-most-damaging-dog-bites-by-breed/)", "> Thats peoples problem. Not the dogs.\n\nWhether or not that's a people or dog problem, it doesn't really matter. What matters is making sure people aren't getting torn to shreds. The stakes between a lazy Pomeranian/Golden Retriever owner and a lazy Pitbull owner are clearly vastly different.", "It's not just an issue with the dog. BSL is very expensive to enforce and create. Costing the taxpayer potentially millions. I know in some smaller parts of America it was costing one town $250000 a year to enforce and didn't reduce the incidence of attacks or bites. Like I get protesting something that costs a lot of money but doesn't actually help.", "Regardless of behavior, their attacks are more severe and deadly simply because of their physical structure. Of course this is a bit of an exaggeration, but it’s like choosing between a house cat and a tiger. \n\nEven if their behavior, tameness, and everything else were equal, I’d be a fuckload more comfortable having a house cat around family, kids, neighbors, postal workers, etc.", ">Pit Bulls are only responsible for 22.5% of dog bite injuries, German Shepherds, Terriers, Akitas, and lots of others can also be just as dangerous.\n\nNo, see, this where statistics are used in a biased manner. What is a \"dog bite injury\"\"? Simply when a dog bites and leaves a mark? Because that's not the problem, here. When a Chihuahua bites someone, it doesn't rip their arm off. When a lab bites someone, it doesn't hold it in it's jaw even while being beaten bloody with a baseball bat. \n\nThe argument here is not that Pits bite or even attack more often. It's that when they *do* bite, their instinct is to hold down and not let go. That's **literally** what they were bred into existence to do- to bite bulls and bears and hold them down by the neck.", "Fuck pit bulls and their owners.", ">I think the majority of trouble comes from how popular pit breeds are.\n\nMaybe if you watch the video it will go into directly explaining all these questions and arguments you have. If you aren't willing/able to do so maybe refrain from commenting opinions that are directly addressed in the video until you can watch the video.\n\nPit bull lobbies and their \"zero kill policy\" along with their agressive and misleading marketing tactics are one of the big reasons pit bull breeds are so popular.", "Might I interest you in owning a wild lynx then?", "> To assess bite severity, researchers at Ohio State University’s Wexner Medical Center reviewed 15 years of dog-related facial trauma cases from 240 patients who were treated at Nationwide Children’s Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, and the University of Virginia Health System. They focused on wound size, tissue tearing, bone fractures, and other injuries severe enough to call in a facial trauma and reconstructive surgeon. \n>\n>Researchers also combed the literature from 1970 to the present, searching for papers that reported data on breeds to determine the relative risk of biting from a particular breed. 40 reported bites was the minimum requirement for including a breed in the new study; 43 studies in the literature met that criterion. The researchers combined those results with with hospital data to determine the relative risk of biting and the average tissue damage of those bites.\n\n[American Animal Hospital Association](https://www.aaha.org/publications/newstat/articles/2019-06/new-study-identifies-most-damaging-dog-bites-by-breed/)", ">But the bans are ineffective at resolving the issues surrounding dog bites and attacks.\n\nWhat do you mean? It resolves the issues surrounding dog bites from the banned races in that\n\n1) The banned dog races will be euthanized or stopped being bred.\n\n2) Any dog attack by an banned dog race will secure the victim in a massive lawsuit and euthanization of the dog.", "\"They were bred to be nanny dogs!!!\" /s", "Ohhh so the argument that is doesn't reduce bites is bullshit.", "Oh no!", "Healthy genetics do not make up for being genetically engineered to fight other dogs to the death. Show me some fatal golden retriever attacks, I'll wait.", "No, because a breed characteristic of a Boxer, stemming from the Bulldog origin, results in a protective and guarded nature. The English Bulldog is a guard dog. Boxers are *literally* known to be a bit distrusting of strangers. The AKC recognizes this so congrats on being ignorant twice over?\n\nThe pitbull also has this character trait as they also come from the English Bulldog, except mixed with a Terrier, hence their agility and ferocity. Train that mix, the pitbull, to be violent towards large animals and other dogs for 200 years and boom, Pitbull Terrier today.\n\nThis isn't hard.", "> For the sake of this exercise you must send your child in to play in one of those yards.", "Some dogs have stronger instincts than other dogs. Pit Bulls have some very strong self protection instincts.\n\nMy lab for instance - is 100% soft mouth - unless you got fresh meat in your hands - then he forgets himself - and lunges for the meat with his jawful of teeth. But he's 100% gentle otherwise - the cats love him.\n\nSo - if you get to the trigger point of a dog's instincts - the instinct will likely prevail. IOW - it's really hard to be sure you've trained all the instinctual responses out of a dog. And if you haven't even tried - you need to be aware of what the dog is capable of. Otherwise - somebody is gonna get hurt.", "Look, I love dogs and there's a huge problem with the issue of how do we protect people and regulate the ownership of an animal that can really hurt people... but this documentary is ehh and misrepresents the issue. The reality is BSL is extremely expensive but doesn't offer much benefit. After studying the results of BSL being implemented the CDC (and many other governing bodies) recommend against the use of BSL because it simply doesn't work.", "They really should ban the rest of the bully breeds. Too many \"\"\"\"american bully\"\"\"\" that are so clearly descendants of pits. Staffordshire Terriers are also fucking lethal and make up for a good percentage of fatal dog attacks in the UK.", "100% agree with you there.", "A large portion of those 21% of mixes are mixes of these problematic breeds.", "I think it's worth putting a bullet to their heads to preserve human peace and health.", "I apologize, this is a dumb *exercise*. I referred to it as an argument.", "The popcorn in the comments section is always saltier!", "Yea because it's not training, it's a trait, not something they learn. Learning to attack something specific, on command is not aggression, its intellect", "... This is what happens when abortion is made illegal!\n\n​\n\n​\n\n\\*Sorry, just a dark thought I had.", "stop their breeding and sterilize all of them. they’re not inherently bad, i’ve known lovely ones, but they attract shit owners. see also chihuahuas. it’s already to the point where you go to the shelter to adopt a dog and your choice is a pit mix or a chihuahua mix. They’re not bad dogs but they do attract the worst dog owners.", "It does describe all cats. They're disgusting animals.", "> Mustangs have a culture around them for driving into crowds, thats not a reason not to own a mustang.\n\nThis can't be a serious logical attempt at an argument, is it?\n\nBe serious now.\n\nMy wife has worked in 4 major metro children's hospitals and Pit injuries are overwhelmingly the cause for dog-bite hospitalizations. Gloss on about responsibility but at some point you have to look at this breed as just more dangerous than others and it may not be in the public's best interest to continue to pretend that this issue isn't partly due to the breed itself.", "In America you don't even have to spend money enforcing such a law. Just make these breeds illegal. You don't need patrols patrolling the street for them.\n\nWhen someone's dog bites someone, the dog gets put down and the victim can file a lawsuit and ruin the criminally liable dog owner. Easy.", "You ever seen a Chihuahua EVISCERATE someone? A pit bull recently ripped a kids arms off, show me literally any other breed that is responsible for such a violent attack.", "There are far more than do, it would be a waste of time to name them all. You're not really making a point regardless.", "And just because, theoretically, you can modify behavior through training, that doesn't mean it can be done *reliably*.", "Bitch please i have a sibe husky and an Akita inu and my sibe was actually attacked by a pitbull and almost lost an eye. If i were to be on any side, it would be yours. As an experienced owner, I just know dogs well enough to spot the bullshit.", "Only if they cull you right afterwards.", ">that the fear is most of the problem.\n\nThere it is. The \"blame the victim\" mindset you always see with Pitbull owners. They're sweet and smart, until they're not.", "It's hard to find useful data on the subject, according to [this site](https://www.superbdog.com/dog-bite-statistics/) in the US Pitbulls ranked first in attacks/deaths (3397/295) and Rottweiler second (535/8).\n\nWhile we would need to know the total numbers of either breed to estimate attacks per dog, we can see that a Rottweiler attack is far less likely to result in a death (1.5% chance) than a Pitbull attack (8.7% chance). The Rottweiler has a low rate of kill/attack even compared to other breeds.\n\nRanking a breed \"in terms of aggressiveness\" is too subjective, every dog is \"harmless\" until he has bitten someone.", "lol what? I wouldn't send my kid into a yard with ANY unknown dogs, that's just bad parenting.", "You are talking about a government body, which these powerful lobbies directly target, not recommending BSL. That comes as no surprise to anyone who understands how lobbies and government work.", "I have an Aussie shepherd, an absolutely amazing dog. I also live in the most urbanized parts of my state, a literal concrete jungle in almost every regard. For new years last year, we visited one of my friends who owns a ranch down in the southern part of the state - he's got horses, lambs, a donkey, you name it.\n\n Somehow my posh little Aussie knew from the moment of meeting a herd that she must begin coraling them around their pens, nipping at stragglers heels and huffing at them.\n\nWhy is it so controversial to say dog behavior is inherited? Obviously training is involved at honing in on their skills, but if a dog can be bred to herd it can be bred to hurt too.", "Just for the sake of argument.... There is \"one car\" responsible for fatalities... The gas powered, high speed car. If we all road bikes, walked, or took the train/bus that would eliminate most fatalities. Or if cars were limited to going 45mph or less that would also substantially lower fatalities.\n\nI understand the many flaws in my \"argument\". This was just for fun :)", "There’s no place for ppl like you but here you are.", "> show me literally any other breed that is responsible for such a violent attack.\n\nLiterally any medium to big-sized dog breed will have listed attacks on humans.", "I mean…isn’t it enough to just stop breeding them? I have a pit mix rescue who has never bit or hurt anyone but is extremely anxious (not sure what happened to it as a puppy) so I’m always cautious just in case with new people or people they don’t see frequently. At the same time I don’t deny the statistics. I love my dog but they’re fixed.\n\nActively going out and euthanizing them all seems extreme and not really worth it since if they stopped breeding them, the issue would resolve itself within a decade or so.", "Any medium to big sized dog has the capability of eviscerating people unprovoked is the point.", "This. People are really bad at connecting on-paper risk levels with risks they wouldn't take in real life. Mostly because the on paper risk numbers for things that are so stupid you should never try them seem too low. \n\nBasically, most people's risk tolerance for any sort of physical harm falls somewhere between 99.5% and 99.99% safe on a per-activity basis. And that includes Frat bros and yolo types.\n\nDriving drunk is incredibly dangerous to the point that most people would never do it out of common sense. Driving drunk has a less than 1% fatality rate.", "Im an owner of an amstaff, I personelly LOVE the breed, they are loyal, has huge personalitys and are cuddly af, however! It is a breed which IMO should be regulated, but the owners, far too many people buy this breed without knowing how to handle them, and no matter how well trained a dog is you should ALWAYS, have full observation and control of it", "They don't?\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/o05gb5/five_week_old_puppies_showing_genetic_aggression/\n\nhttps://i.redd.it/w0qak7gsx2j71.jpg\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/lw1s6y/pitbull_puppies_showing_its_not_just_how_you/\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/gw2d7f/pit_puppies_tearing_into_each_other_but_dont/", "[It's important to note that the study referred to in your artical focuses only on bites to the face, ignoring bites on any other part of the body.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165587618305950?via%3Dihub) So it is inaccurate to say that \"Pit Bulls are only responsible for 22.5% of dog bite injuries.\"", "You never buy a dog from a breeder who owns both the dame and the sire either", "\"capability of eviscerating people\" is what was put into question.\n\nI can assure you that no dog smaller than a pitbull is capable of eviscerating someone.", "\"Moms\", is part of the problem, dogs are loved, but also bought, sold, and owned.\n\nDogs ownership, or anything that can't be easily controlled by the owner should need a license.", "Behaviour is easy to change, it's the nature of the animal that is a lot harder. \n\nCan train anything to behave 99% of the time. When panic or stress kick in, you fall back on your nature.", "Yeah it won't happen nor should it idk why I wrote that. Stopped breeding is the solution they made in Toronto.", "We don't invest in animal control. Okay so you say Pitbulls aren't allowed in your community, Do you go door to door and euthanize people's pets? Do you make owning an un-fixed animal without a breeding license a criminal offense?\n\nLet's say you decide to do both, how do you enforce it?\n\nMost cities animal shelters are a joke because they don't get funding. If we can't even pay to maintain our existing infrastructure, do you think we are willing to spend what it takes to implement any new plans?", "No u", "Pitbulls are among the 6 breeds that are illegal in Norway, for good reason.", "I'll just leave [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States) here.", "So you should watch this documentary as it covers how these breeds are being *pushed* on people who are not suited to house and train them under the guise of false marketing by pro pitbull lobbyist groups.\n\nYou can love pitbulls and still see what these pit bull lobbies are doing is wrong.", "Because there are a lot of them up for rescue that will otherwise be euthanized.\n\nI have a pit mix rescue and they’re extremely sweet (once they aren’t afraid of you) and have never hurt anyone. But my dog is fixed and I would never go to a breeder for a pit.", "Dogs should (and often do) receive behavioral testing before adoption. Pit bulls that were not abused can usually pass these tests and are just fine. Source. I fostered tons of pit bulls and currently have one as a pet. The ones who are aggressive should just be put down imho in the general case.", "I Will watch :) just dont have the time atm, just based my opinion in What I read in the thread :)", "Now watch the documentary and see what is actually happening to achieve no kill shelter policy being pushed by these pit bull lobby organizations.", "Even if the owner is responsible, the dog still has a mind of it's own, and if not even it's owner can control it then it shouldn't be owned.", "Different genetic lineages gives different behaviors in mammals EXCEPT for humans. Stop looking!", "Personality traits aren't genetic, like you alot of people are under this misconception. Genetic traits are bone structure, color, size, shape, and genetic defaults if any can be passed down from one parent or the other. Behavior traits are specific to each dog individually and not narrowed to breeds, I have pits, american bullies and rottys, been breeding over 29 years, some of my dogs are defendants of known aggressive dogs, but have been socialized as a puppy and trained, they don't even chase cats. Not a aggressive bone in any of their bodies and not one has had a incident,and those three breeds are known for behavior problems, it's not the dogs fault it's the owners.\nEnding note: all but a couple of Micheal Vicks fighting dogs have been rehabilitated and are emotional support animals (esa) and family pets it's been years now since they have been rehomed and no incidents have occurred.\nFood for thought.", "I guess the difference is that while basically all cats will try to murder you at one point, most housecats aren't successful.", "Let me know when there's a golden retriever epidemic of child maulings.", "Gotta get my comment in quick...errmm.\n\nRIP Benny Havey.", "And these pit bull lobby groups will try and point out what an awful system it is you have in Norway.", "Did you even read your link? It says that Pit Bulls are the single largest breed for both amount of bites and bite severity in that study, behind \"unknown\" cases where the breed cannot be identified..... It literally validates what I'm saying.", "> I am not going to watch the video because I'm at work\n\nthen get off /r/videos my guy", "My dog was mauled by a pitbull, owner had it offleash of course. Fuck pitbulls and fuck the shitty owners that gravitate towards them. For those good owners, thank you and be vigilent.", "I think its this absurd fear of eugenics. \n\nLike, they think \"if you can breed dogs personality, then you can breed humans, and I dont like the way that sounds, so it must not be true in either case\" \n\nThe thing is, humans are not dogs. Our minds are far more complex and while we *probably* could breed humans in a way that affects personality, it would be much more difficult and complex than dogs. Also, just because its possible, doesnt mean its a good idea.", "Every pit I've ever known has been a happy waggy dog. My kid's best friend has 2 pits. They are the sweetest, happiest dogs ever. Sure, they're big and they knock you around but they're fun and pleasant company.\n\nAny dog can be raised mean. Just raise the dog nice.", "I mean, it's one of many subs I see. Calm down.", "You absolutely can breed for intelligence also.", "Right on! it's definitely an interesting documentary, leaves a lot to think about, not only on dogs, but on lobby groups in general and their power to form policy.", "... which is why I specifically said \"medium to big sized dogs\". Pitbulls are medium-sized dogs.", "They are illegal for a reason, in Norway there are 6 breeds banned and in Denmark there are 13 banned breeds, the 5 banned by both are:\n\n\nFila brasileiro, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nTosa inu, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nDogo argentino, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\namerican staffordshire terrier, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nAmerican Pit Bull Terrier, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nIn norway we also banned the czechoslovakian wolfdog, too much wolf.", "pitbulls/staffordshire terriers are dogs with too much prey drive to be safe for other dogs, cats, other pets, and sometimes even small humans.\n\nThey arent evil. Its not always \"bad owners\". But it is a real problem.\n\nIMO the only ethical and responsible solution would be for government mandated extinction of those breeds. But that DOES NOT MEAN we need to put them all down. I dont think we should.\n\nWhat I am proposing is that all of these breeds, or half breeds, should be government mandated spay & neutering of all dogs with half or more of these breeds (and maybe a few other breeds).\n\nPart of this law would include a fine for not doing it (which repeats and increases the longer you dont do it) and a free spay and neuter for any owners who cant afford it (paid by government). Perhaps a tax credit to vets who do it for free X times a week.", "That has absolutely nothing to do with what I’m saying.", "Finally made it to a Pit Bull thread before it got locked!", "The adjectives in this post title are pretty sad.\n\n\"Damaged\" dogs (due you mean abused?)\n\n\"Vulnerable\" families (due you mean unprepared to be dog owners especially of abused dogs)\n\nMost people shouldn't own a dog. End of story. \n\nEven less people should own an abused dog. \n\nEven less should own an abused dog that is of a large and or muscular build that you can't physical restrain or could cause extreme harm.\n\nMost people shouldn't own a dog.\n\nRequiring humans to go through dog training as well as the dog shouldn't even be a debate.\n\nIf adopting from a rescue center or a pound it should be without question a requirement for a dog owner and the dog to go through training together.\n\nThere are so many more requirements to adopt a child and yet the idea of simply require a 1 to 2 week course is almost an alien concept.\n\nWe are the reason dogs attack. We are the reason dogs get scared. We are the reason dogs get abused. \n\nWe have to take responsibility for dogs if we want to be their \"owners\"/\"parents\" or whatever you want to call yourself.", "Most pitbull mixes are the result of poor breeders in low income areas breeding for a mish mash of aggressive traits. The vast majority of pits aren't coming from responsible breeders selecting for nanny traits. They're an awful breed made worse by the conditions that further their existence. The world is better without them.", "Watch the video, then come back with a comment that is relevant to the video.", "German Shepherds are still the reigning Champs of attacks here in the US. We wouldn't dare ban the breed every policeman / firefighter / politician uses because it's just so American and badass.", "So what you’re saying is don’t leave your dumb little kids around animals", "That’s crazy, because Labs are one of the dogs high on the bite list lmao.\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2009/02/26/dog-bite-survey-finds-few-canines-that-attack/amp/\n\nhttps://www.bestattorney.com/dog-bites/labrador-dog-breed.html\n\nSo no, your labs are dangerous animals.\n\nEdit: Downvote me all you want. I don’t like Pitbulls. I just don’t like people who think their precious dogs aren’t dangerous in their own right and I also don’t believe a whole breed of dogs should be banned.", "Pit bulls were bred to fight and be aggressive.\n\nIt’s in their nature, it’s who they are.\n\nCan you train and raise one to be more than that? Of course but you think every simpleton who has one has that kinda of patience or understanding. \n\nHell no. A regular Joe who raises a lion cub and keeps one as a pet would be no different than people who keep pit bulls because they think they are cute or cool, without any discipline on their part.", "Its the dog thats too agressive. The Pitbull is banned in all of these countries: \n\nBelgium\n\nBrazil\n\nDenmark\n\nFinland\n\nFrance\n\nCanda (certain provinces)\n\nThe Netherlands\n\nNew Zealand\n\nNorway\n\nPoland\n\nSweden\n\nBecause its too agressive and is considered a fighting dog.", "Will an epidemic of Labradors and Sherpherds maulings do? https://globalnews.ca/news/2527882/torontos-pit-bulls-are-almost-gone-so-why-are-there-more-dog-bites-than-ever/ \n \nThis is what happens in every place where pits (or any other specific breed) gets banned. Number of bites keeps going up since the correlation is with the popularity of a breed and the total number of dog owners going up (and not with the breed of the dog) and all of a sudden it's other species leading the palmares and replacing pitbulls.\n \nYou people think you're following the science, but you're really not and there isn't a single subject matter expert out there that would argue for breed-specific bans because they've been shown time and again to be completely useless. You've been instrumentalized into thinking that way by lobby groups who are stuck in this weird feedback loop of hating on a specific breed of dog, getting it banned, and then moving onto the next breed. Do you know it used to be rottweilers and mastiffs that were \"the problem\" in the 80s?", "[iTs NoT tHe BrEeD iTs ThE oWnErS](https://sol.no/images/73917980.jpg?imageId=73917980&width=980&height=559&compression=80)\n\nIn the last 20 years, 9 people have died as a result of dog attacks in Norway, and there are only 6 banned breeds.\n\nFila Brasileiro, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nTosa inu, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nDogo Argentino, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nAmerican Staffordshire Terrier, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nAmerican Pit Bull Terrier, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nThe Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, too much wolf.", "Not even Caesar Milan himself can manage to do that, probably the biggest advocate for pitbulls. Yet regular people should be able to manage?\n\n[https://people.com/crime/cesar-millan-pit-bull-allegedly-killed-queen-latifah-dog-bit-gymnast-report/](https://people.com/crime/cesar-millan-pit-bull-allegedly-killed-queen-latifah-dog-bit-gymnast-report/)\n\n[https://www.insideedition.com/teen-says-she-was-attacked-by-cesar-millans-pit-bull-who-also-allegedly-killed-queen-latifahs-dog](https://www.insideedition.com/teen-says-she-was-attacked-by-cesar-millans-pit-bull-who-also-allegedly-killed-queen-latifahs-dog)", "Your reply actually acknowledges how violent these things are and you're still being an asshole about it.", ">see also chihuahuas\n\nPeople object less to chihuahuas because their size makes it far less likely for anything really serious to happen. \n\nYes, I'm sure you can reply with plenty of examples of where a chihuahua messed someone up, but the point still stands.", "that sentence is as chill as you choose to read it. Y'all on edge.", "Yup all cats will murder you I'd they could", "What I find most interesting, based on the upvotes and downvotes in other pitbull-related threads, is what a strong consensus reddit has on the dangerous nature of pit bulls, while it decidedly lacks a consensus on guns.\n\nBoth are *arguably (note, not my argument)* made to do violence - guns even more so - and yet you don't see the same voting landslide on gun control threads. I just think that's interesting.\n\nEDIT: For those doubting that a consensus is forming regarding pit bulls on reddit, I refer [yesterday's post](https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/rlslfh/mum_has_arms_ripped_off_dies_stopping_pit_bull/) in which almost any pro-pit-bull comment received hundreds of downvotes, and many anti-pit-bull comments were highly upvoted and gilded. You simply do not see that level of one-sided reddit discourse on the gun issue.", "There are a ton of ways to look at it. If I randomly select one pit bull from the population, is the likelihood that they will attack someone much greater than if I select any type of dog at random? If no, then the first point is most representative. \n\nIf yes, it will be tough to disentangle genetics from the environment (e.g., are people that adopt pit bulls more likely to be abusive than for pet adopters in general? Are pit bulls adopted into multi dog breed households less likely to be aggressive than the average pit bull? \n\nMy point here is that there is merit to most of these viewpoints. They get at different pieces of the problem. \n\nThat being said I encourage anyone who really thinks that all or most pit bulls are violent to go meet some. I have fostered at least a dozen and have been around dozens more and can say from that sample that it is delusional to assume that there is a systemic genetic aggression they display.", "There was a story yesterday about a mum having her arms ripped off and drying to protect her 4 y/o from their pit bull.", "If you're a lazy half assed basset hound owner, they'll just try to eat human food, counter surf, get fat, not move around very much unless they want to, and probably howl uncontrollably at any small woodland creature. They won't just randomly kill people.", "Do you understand the word \"anecdotal\"?", "Personality can be genetic. You know what prey drive is correct? \n\nThat’s imbedded in a lot of dogs and predators. No matter how much training you put into them it will always be there. Training helps teach the animal to suppress or control it. Same with aggression.\n\nAll breeds of dogs have been selectively bred for different purposes. Pit bulls are naturally strong, aggressive and protective. It takes a great owner and better training to make sure that the dog can learn to suppress these natural urges. \n\nNot all pit bulls are the same too since some are born with a more passive temperament that also gets passed on to their pups. That’s why breeding dogs isn’t just about appearance but personality too.", "Pitbulls are like guns, sure they can kill you but it's the owners responsibility to prevent that as much as possible. Owning a pitbull is not like owning a Chihuahua.", "Guns can't just up and decide to hurt people on their own spontaneously.", "When I was in medical school, I attended a lecture by a pediatric maxillofacial surgeon that stood out. It was mostly on wounds inflicted by animals, but the last 10 minutes of the lecture was essentially a big argument against pit bulls. He kept records of every case he had that involved a dog attack over a 12 year career, and about 70% of those cases were caused by pit bulls, another 25% by Rottweilers and GSDs, and after that almost nothing.\n\nAs a side note, I noticed he had one case caused by a St. Bernard. I had 3 saints as pets, and was curious about that case, because I couldn't imagine a universe in which one would hurt a kid. He says a small child, maybe a year old, was out in the yard unsupervised. The child started crying, and the St. Bernard picked him up by the head to bring him inside to the owner. Needed some soft tissue repair and some stitches.", "Anyone here ever see a pitbulls eyes glaze over and \"switch\" into a death machine? It's the craziest thing especially when you never think it would or could happen. No (visible) triggers. No ignorant humans accidentally creating the perfect situation for this to happen. Pure chaos brought on by some primitive angst causing a 7 year old pit to attack its lifelong house mate. Another dog. I would argue that both dogs lived purposeful lives with structure, 2 walks a day, and both trained off leash. It just didn't make sense.", "What’s even less hard is recognizing that animals are also individuals and don’t only follow the characteristics of their breed, especially when cross-breeding is involved.\n\nInteresting I don’t see you correcting the ignorance of the person I was responding to. I wear my “twice-over ignorance” with pride since I don’t claim to be an expert on dog breeds. Any other moronic attempts at insults?", "And you’re just an asshole for the sake of being a shitty person on the Internet. Congrats!", "Sign of unethical breeder", "> “Just raise the dog nice.” \n\n*Head slap* Holy Shit! I’ve never thought about this! And here all this time every pit owner who was viciously mauled by their pit was raising it to hate the world! You may have just solved animal aggression for the whole world. Congrats….", "i'm not saying and i will never say that golden retrievers are as dangerous as pits.\n\nbut people should understand that they can be 100% aggressive, specially towards other dogs.\n\ni had to kick a golden retriever that was trying to kill my dog -- no leash on the retriever, my dog on his leash. after i kicked him multiple times, the owner finally appeared to say \"oh no, he's not violent!\"\n\nmotherfucker, my dog almost got killed because yours is twice the size/weight while being 10 years younger.", "I grew up with a poodle. Poodles were originally bred to be hunting assistants- they retrieve water fowl from watery environements. So they were bred to 1) retrieve birds 2) have \"soft\" mouths, which means they don't bite hard.\n\nFirst time this dog saw the beach? He came back with a seagull in its mouth. Spat it out right in front of us, and it flew away uninjured. \n\nGenetic instincts are a thing.", "They're not the worst breed in terms of aggression - that honor probably goes to the Akita, which is responsible for 1/40th the total deaths caused by pit bulls, in a population of only a few thousand Akitas. **Edit: I was wrong - as bad as Akitas are, Malamutes are much worse!** Off the top of my head, the ovcharka is another dog that is probably less safe around kids than a pit bull by a pretty good margin.\n\nIt's not wrong for adults who want an exotic breed to own a beautiful but less temperamentally easy dog. It's a problem with pit bulls because they are too widely owned. They are not the *most* dangerous dog, but they are too dangerous to be a widespread family dog.\n\nIt's a product of risk x frequency. Pit bulls are just safe enough that there are lots of \"good\" examples, to encourage more people to get them. There are almost no warm and cuddly ovcharkas.\n\nIt's a lot like public messaging about covid - the disease is just safe enough that there are lots of anecdotes to make it seem less scary than it is.", "Yeah, they equate human race with dog breed. They're not the same thing. Arguably Humans' most defining characteristic is that we take over 20 years developing our brains based on environmental and social information. Most other animals develop much more quickly and aren't quite as neurologically malleable. Dogs can definitely be taught a lot, but they rely more on instinct and less on socialization compared to humans.", "Uh, what? There’s absolutely brigading and vote landslides on gun control threads. Usually in favor of gun control, and similarly in favor of banning pitbulls.", "> stop their breeding and sterilize all of them.\n\nThis is what happened in Norway, we have 6 banned breeds and Pitbull is among them. So if the americans from both left and right are going to idolize and feitishize this country like they do, then they also have to admit that theres a reason, a good reason, they are banned. Infact the Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasileiro, and Tosa Inu i belive are banned in america too, or atleast certain parts.\n\nFila brasileiro, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nTosa inu, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nDogo argentino, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\namerican staffordshire terrier, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nAmerican Pit Bull Terrier, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nIn norway we also banned the czechoslovakian wolfdog, not because it was too agressive, but too much wolf.", "Is that kind of a red flag signal or is there something specific? Never heard that before...", "Ive raised and trained horses most of my life and we’ve always taught that if you see a horse that is showing a large amount of white in their eyes, then back off. That means the horse is frightened or uneasy and can act unpredictability if you continue to try to provoke it or approach it. Pits are the only breed of dog that I see that has this same look when they are in a aggressive state.", "Sure but at some point the animals can’t get any smarter. No matter how much you train or breed them to be smart they can only do so much because of their brains.", "My problem with banning an entire breed because there is X amount of chance they hurt someone is; where do you draw the line? \n\n 10 years after banning pitbulls do we ban German Shepherds or Rottweilers because they now have the highest chance of hurting a human? Surely any chance of hurting people is too much of a chance? \n\n I'll just stick with cats...", "Stupid science bitch couldn’t even make I more smarter!", "Banning pitbulls might be a good idea, but a new vicious breed will just crop up. We have to abolish the root problem of dog fighting first.", "This is the same “Fifth Estate” group that peddles 9-11 conspiracy videos about Bush having a hand in it. \n\nI’m sure their coverage on pitbulls is totally valid. /s", "Yes, I enjoy my Pumpernickel Pitbulls tbh.", "Link ?\nEdit: Downvotes for requesting a link? Forgot how soft Reddit dweebs were!", "Dogs never just snap and do damage to a person for no reason. There is a build up of boundaries crossed and warning signs ignored. If the people who take in these dogs aren't willing to do the patient work of caring for and understanding them, then they shouldn't take them in. Also, some dogs should just not be around children, and that's okay.", "\"Here's a video of Killer playing with our 3 month old! It's not the dog, it's the OwNeR!\"", "We got him as a puppy - was advertised as a lab mix - and we didn't realize he had pitbull in him until he grew up and developed more breed like features.", "You are only partially correct. First, these instincts aren't trained for, they're genetically selected for through selective breeding.\n\nSecond, they are absolutely bred to be highly aggressive. But the reason police don't utilize them is because of the second factor that is bred into them - they're also bred to never let go and to never back down. \n\n\"How exciting would a fight between two dogs be (or between a dog and larger animals originally) if the dog didn't actually fight, or stopped fighting when it got hurt?\" That's the mindset of the individuals that developed the pitbull breed originally. Is it a disgusting mindset? Absolutely. But history is full of disgusting people doing disgusting things.", "It’s a sign that they run a puppy mill, essentially. \n\nIf they own both, they can keep the mother dog in a perpetual state of pregnancy to optimize their profits. \n\nIf they have to get a stud, then they have to interact with others in the dog rearing community that might take exception to an unethical breeder.", "It's a sign they are breeding out of convenience rather than to improve the breed. Reputable breeders will seek out a quality sire. Pay a sire fee. And have the sires papers available for inspection. Backyard breeders will just buy two dogs and have litter after litter.", ">Dogs never just snap and do damage to a person for no reason.\n\nMore incorrect words have ever been spoken. You have never owned a fear aggressive dog that snaps on a trigger in the blink of a eye. Zero warning, zero posturing, zero ear movement, none of that. One instant they will be playful and happy, the next they tear into you or another dog as you set off a completely unknown and unpredictable trigger in them. Can be as simple as something like moving a blanket that is partially under their feet.\n\nI have owned abuse recues like this, but thankfully they were small enough to not do any severe damage.", "This variable pisses me off so much. Our dogs are completely different on/off leash (like at the dog park). If an off leash dog approaches them while on leash they are sketched out. I hate when people run trails with their dogs off leash as it' not an off leash environment. One off leash dog attacked our lab boxer mix 6 months ago completely unprovoked.", "There’s a baseball-sized scar on my ankle because of one of these fuckers.\n\nWife and I were on an evening walk, a guy was working on his truck in the driveway and had left the door to the house cracked. Their pit saw us, got out, and went straight for my leg. No warning bark, nothing. Just tore some flesh out before the owner managed to grab it and throw it back inside. My leg was *spraying* blood.\n\nOf course the owner was all “omg she’s never done anything like this, idk what got into her…” etc while he tournequeted my wound.\n\nYou bought a dog breed designed to be aggressive and territorial and its base instincts overrode its training for just long enough to injure a stranger. That’s what happened.\n\n17 stitches and a gnarly scar later, I know that dog’s still living with that family and probably a ticking time bomb.", "The reason for stopping the breeding of pugs and pitbulls are different, but the point still stands - the world would have less suffering overall if both breeds were phased out and no further dogs were brought into the world. \n\nWith golden retrievers and german shepherds, sure absolutely there are irrisponsible breeders leading to unhealthy dogs. But unlike pugs, those breeds can still be responsibly bred without inbreeding. While pugs - even if coming from genetically diverse pug parents, are still pugs. And pugs are physically unhealthy by design.", "Owners are criminally liable in most places!\n\nDog bites are way under-prosecuted by victims. A lot like sexual assaults. There can be huge social pressure not to force someone in your group of friends to put down their beloved pit bull after it only bit you one time, and they swear it's usually so sweet!\n\nI intervened in a dog attack by an off-leash Akita in my neighborhood. The dog's owner was present and known to the victim. The nice middle-aged woman who was on the ground, bleeding did not press charges and that dog is still alive.", "“Not good ownership.”\n\nThats all anyone should be saying in regards to anyones pets. Animals are animals and we are humans with the ability to to critically think and judge their actions or behaviors. That makes owners liable for what may happen.", "The top comments are always about how exciting things are about to get but at the same time incredibly safe/neutral comments", "reducing the number of pitbulls will reduce the number of pitbull bites... even the CDCs research evidenced that it just doesn't work. And I'm an animal behaviourist working in a country in which they were banned and have spent years studying this, my father worked in enforcing the ban. But that aside... Following the summation of banning pitbulls in [Toronto the incidence of dog bites ROSE in the city](https://globalnews.ca/news/2527882/torontos-pit-bulls-are-almost-gone-so-why-are-there-more-dog-bites-than-ever/). It's been ineffective and if we're going by statistics... it's worse than ever. This propumentary reports incomplete statistics to come to the wrong conclusion to resolve this issue.", "Yeah you say that now, but I’m pretty sure my Ruger is sizing me up.\n\nI live in constant fear.", "[Nope, dog bites in Toronto have been rising steadily since the ban on pitbulls.](https://globalnews.ca/news/2527882/torontos-pit-bulls-are-almost-gone-so-why-are-there-more-dog-bites-than-ever/)", "It’s amazing how moral dilemmas and thought exercises are way easier to resolve if you just ignore the thing that makes them challenging.", "One of the defining characteristics of being human is the ability to overcome temperament and primal urges. Humans are really just violent sexual apes. We learn to be \"human\", like you say.", "Violent animals.", "What a fucking shitty-ass example and attempt.", "Wish you had this much energy for obesity in America.", "There’s no consensus on pits, and no consensus on guns. I see a lot of debate on both.\n\nIt is most surely a lie that aggression can’t be bred. But I’ve met pit bulls that are the sweetest dogs in the world, and I’ve also met one that tore a chunk out of my leg unprovoked.", "When you say \"reddit\" I assume you mean America... Cus the rest of the world has a very clear consensus on gun control, but not on pitbulls... Pitbulls are live animals and deserve some respect, guns however are literally just things designed to hurt other people as much as possible", "Lol what.", "The planet wouldn’t be any worse off with the extinction of pitbulls.", ">is what a strong consensus reddit has on the dangerous nature of pit bulls,\n\nReddit has generally been pro pitbull for the majority of its existence; I can say this accurately because I was downvoted heavily on my accounts any time I brought up how many children are killed and mauled by pitbulls for years in any post related to pitbulls.\n\nI think the public opinion is starting to sway back to realize these animals are dangerous and more often than not the owners are negligent. Responsible people rarely keep aggressive pets.\n\nEdit: [https://www.reddit.com/search?q=pitbulls&restrict\\_sr=&sort=top](https://www.reddit.com/search?q=pitbulls&restrict_sr=&sort=top)\n\nI just proved my own point, you can see a lot of pro pitbull posts by merely searching lol", "Iunno where u got that from... How did humans evolve to become so smart then?", "Lol how is this a moral dilemma? You proposed a situation no person would ever find themselves in with two options that are equally terrible. I get what you’re trying to say and everything but what a weird way to try to convince people.", "Prey drive isn't fucking personality lmfao", "I'd say a Taurus is waiting for its chances more.", "“Crazy pitbull supporters”\n\nThis isnt politics you Loon. Get a grip. Owners are responsible. Color me shocked that humans as a whole who have always had issues with their own responsibilities effecting others in society are looking to blame an animal that doesnt have observational or critical thinking skills. Take a step back and look at what owning any dog is supposed to take in attention and thought, and ask yourself why you have an inability to hold that accountability towards all owners.", "Sounds like Humans.", "You can't pick a dog up, take it to a school and kill a dozen kids.", "No. We breed animals for specific tasks. Some to look good, some for more agricultural use. In the case of these types of dogs they have been bred to attack and as such have that trait present strongly in their DNA. As this documentary points out , their predisposition cannot be controlled in all situations, and due to the relatively high number of attacks and the fact that alternatives exist, humans should avoid these dogs at all costs!", "Lol triggered much", "It reduces bites from the banned breeds but people just get other dogs and the bites go back up. They cited Torontos ban in the video but their dog bites since banning have only risen. What does it matter if its a german shepard or a pitbull attacking someone? Either dog is capable of killing someone and banning the breed doesn't stop it. They just get replaced by another breed.", "Yup. Here on Reddit too. I got a lifetime ban on r/aww for a post I made that everyone that posts about how wonderful their gentle and sugar sweet \"pittie\" is- until it brutally kills their 4 year old.", "Well….maybe lol.\n\nOur two closest relatives are common chimpanzees and bonobo chimpanzees. Which couldn’t be more polar opposite in temperament. (Bonobos are usually calm, altruistic and communal in their troop structure nominally led by an elder female or elder couple. Common chimps can be fucking psychopaths and have a very hierarchical structure based on male dominance and pecking orders)", "The article you linked to as evidence showed their bites *decreasing*. Shephards typically do a warning bite, not the lockjaw tearing and excessive damage that pitbulls do. The article also listed shih tzus under the same guise that you are, which deflates the inherent danger of all dogs that you're trying convey. A bite is different from a mauling. They kill other dogs in addition to people. Plenty of other research studies bear out their significantly higher rate as well.", "So you want a law but don't want it enforced? Because that's not how it works. You're suggesting just waiting until someone is killed or injured to enforce a law... That doesn't seem like a sensible way to go about any of this.", "Prey drive is an instinct. Aggression is a personality.\n\nBoth can get passed genetically. So unless you have anything to add I believe you need to do your research", "A lot of Pitbulls on that list. 😅", "1.\tI’m not the person who asked.\n\n2.\tDo people find themselves having to decide whether or not to pull a lever that would save 5 lives by have 1 run over by a trolley in the real world? The point is to find extreme examples that establish a general principle upon reflection.\n\n3.\tIf you get it then what would you pick and what would be the basis of the decision?\n\n\nBecause if the answer is “the one without a putbull” and the justification is “I think pits are less safe” then it seems like the thought exercise worked just fine.", "Have you ever seen a Glock? The little bastards are just waiting to go off like a grenade with the slightest bit of attention.", "99% of pit bull owners shouldn't own pit bull's", "Thanks!", "Where do you even begin? Make it illegal to breed or own a pitbull? Pitbulls are basically 30ish different breeds lumped into one.\n\nMajority of dogs are mixes. Where do we draw the line on what is considered a pitbull? At 1%? At 50%?\n\nHow do you curtail strays breeding?\n\nI think the best solution is to not ban the dog itself, which let's be real. It isn't even possible. \n\nI think requiring a license for any dog breed should be required in order to own one. Classes and mandatory training to understand the breed and what it's characteristics are and how to properly train are conditional with the license.\n\nChange the laws so that owners of dogs are held fully responsible for any damage the dog incurs upon anyone or their property.", "> reducing the number of pitbulls will reduce the number of pitbull bites... even the CDCs research evidenced that it just doesn't work. And I'm an animal behaviourist working in a country in which they were banned and have spent years studying this, my father worked in enforcing the ban.\n\nThat is extremely strange because I live in a country where there are no pit bulls and - wouldn't ya know it - no pit bull related bites, maimings or deaths.\n\n>Following the summation of banning pitbulls in Toronto the incidence of dog bites ROSE in the city. It's been ineffective and if we're going by statistics... it's worse than ever. This documentary reports incomplete statistics to come to the wrong conclusion to resolve this issue.\n\nSo you being the researcher explain why this would happen. I can think of a few reasons. I think we can both agree that pit bull related attacks are down, no? That's good, no? Can we also agree that the bite force and thus the severity of attacks are different for different breeds? Here I'm thinking of when Pit bulls bite both arms of a woman protecting her kid or when a Pit bull de-scalps a 5 year old. Doesn't happen much with a Labrador retriever.\n\nHere are a few possible reasons for the stats:\n\n1) People are misreporting breeds to not get into trouble with the law\n\n2) People are more aware of reporting dog bites in general following the campaign that led up to the bad.\n\n3) Other dog breeds - seeing how not pit bulls are around to bite and kill people - are trying to pick up the slack from the now banned dogs /s", ">This is why you should never buy a dog from a breeder ~~who can’t show you the parents.~~\r \n\r\n\nFTFY", "> The article you linked to as evidence showed their bites decreasing.\n\n... in the first few years untill they ended up with more bites than ever, all from other popular dog breeds. It is literally the title of the article.", "You also aren’t so much breeding “personality” as much as breeding their hormonal system.", "We can have licensing for aggressive/potentially dangerous breeds. That way the owners are held responsible for anything that goes wrong.", "I like how the lawyer lady can only respond with sound bites and buzzwords.", "Possible, yes. As evidenced by the existence of humans. But how many generations would it take?", "If pit bull owners get heated it’s because this targets their family members that they love. It’s personal.", "We are talking about pets. Whatever you’re talking about with ‘tasks’ is mis-aimed.. There is no task that a pet is doing for you other than companionship and the utility of taking care of something.\n\nThat said, Pits that are bred and raised in environments where violence, fighting, and minimal food is the norm then that dog will be prone to those habits forever. Very hard to fix those.\n\nBut when you have PitBull litters that are just casual puppies that are being distributed to decent owners, or really anyone who knows how to socialize them, you’re not gonna see the issues that this doc highlights. If raised from early age and socialized these animals are completely family pets. \n\nBut no one wants to separate that happenstance from ‘gEnEtIcS’ which are mostly activated by poor nurture.\n\nPeople act like they are the only breed bred to fight. No, they were the only breed like such that was taken into black market dog fighting in the US and bred at an exponential rate in extreme conditions. Its almost like Humans are the problem and continue to be.", "[https://nypost.com/2021/12/20/mom-has-arms-ripped-dies-stopping-pit-bull-from-attacking-son/](https://nypost.com/2021/12/20/mom-has-arms-ripped-dies-stopping-pit-bull-from-attacking-son/)\n\n\"The family believes the attack unfolded after Pingel found the dog biting her son. The pitbull likely turned on her as she tried to shield the boy from further injuries, kin said. \nShane Bernarde, Pingel’s boyfriend and the father of the injured boy, returned home to find the dog still attacking the mom in the bathroom. \n“We don’t know how long she was in there fighting him off,” Shannon Pingel said. \nBernarde, who was also bitten during the ordeal, told cops that he pulled the dog off Pingel, dragged it out to the yard and shot it.\"", "Yeah, eugenics is a fascinating field with incredible potential for improving people's quality of life, but is such a raw subject due to how it's been used to perpetuate racism and discrimination.\n\ne: see? Downvoted for even suggesting it has scientific value. People aren't ready for a mature conversation on eugenics", "Sort by: Controversial", "That’s not how evolution works", "Oh I'm gonna send him to the border collie yard, because they're likely owned by an upper middle class white family.\n\nSo I guess... I want to ban pitbulls after all,\nWhat a good exercise!", "I was suggesting a solution for your unsourced, completely made up figure of $250,000 per year in a imaginary city where we don't know the budget so we cannot relate that figure to anything. America is a small government country which watches public finances and taxes carefully so I was suggesting a very cheap method.\n\nThe cheapest way is just to allow officers to shoot the dog breeds on sight if they stumble upon them. A 9mm bullet is relatively cheap.", "Yeah, dude has a real hot take with implying that a living being can be \"made to do violence.\"\n\nPeople on this site *love* to live in fear, it's why it's popular for those reactionary incel/gamergate type of people and why I see the largest concentration of anti-mask/covid-deniers outside of Facebook.", "What I don't understand if its really how they are raised then why are dogs allowed to even be adopted out if they were raised to fight? Knowing that they could snap at any moment? \n\nDogs like that should go to a sanctuary or something not somebodies house.", "Those fuckers live in a fantasy world where they think owning an animal is like having an animal companion in a Disney movie.", "The internet is actually the perfect place for morons", "This wisdom could be procured from reading exactly two (2) reddit threads, this is far from novel.", "Barely an inconvenience!", "Right above this in my feed there’s a story about a mom who died after having both her arms torn off keeping a pitbull from killing her four-year-old. Glad I’m a cat person.", "It tickles me that in a quest for a marketable nickname to disassociate from all of the deaths and maiming caused by pitbulls they went with velvet hippo.\n\nThey chose hippo in order to convey friendliness and cute . Ignoring that hippos are the most violent and dangerous animal to humans in africa discounting insects.", "What a shitty, poorly thought out analogy. Please, take the day off and come up with something better.", ">It reduces bites from the banned breeds but people just get other dogs and the bites go back up. They cited Torontos ban in the video but their dog bites since banning have only risen. What does it matter if its a german shepard or a pitbull attacking someone? Either dog is capable of killing someone and banning the breed doesn't stop it. They just get replaced by another breed.\n\nEither dog breed can kill somoene. I'm sure at least once in history some pomeranian has killed some person. Does that make it equal to at pit bull in its level of danger? Of cause not.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States\n\ntry to use Ctrl+f and search for pit bull and then afterwards for german shepard\n\nThe anatomy, bite force and agressiveness is very different. Pit bulls are unrelenting in their attacks.", "To a certain degree, this is true, regardless of the breed. When you take your dog to a trainer unless you're one of those folks that drop them off and pick up the dog later supposedly \"trained\", what you learn about *how* to train a dog is just as important as what the dog learns. \n\nOwners of bad dogs are to blame for ruining the animal, and at some point, the dog is no longer recoverable. In those cases, the most humane thing to do is put the dog down, because there is no place for them to be happy. And whoever contributed to the delinquency of that animal is absolutely to blame for that outcome.", "Lol huge piece of garbage much?", "Ah yes, shoehorn race into it. You get your point for the day.", "You know, I wish most BSL arguments were making the same proposal you are here. The dog breeding industry in general deserves more regulation for a multitude of reasons, but when it comes to pits the conversation becomes very polarized; most advocates seem to want a cold-turkey approach and support confiscation. I could almost definitely get behind a breedING ban, but not an outright breed ban.", "But they can’t so it’s just adorable to watch them try.", "I’ll go with a different topic. The reason why “Pitbulls” get a bad rap is because most of these dogs are not “Pitbulls” it’s just a catch all term for a short hair medium sized dog with a blocky head.\n\nhttps://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bull-is-not-a-breed.html\n\nThat’s why in most articles they don’t use a picture of the dog (they use a stock photo) because then people would see the dog is drastically different looking every time. There is never any DNA testing to show any type of of relation to recognized breeds because the title “mixed breed dog attacks” won’t generate as many clicks as “Pitbull attacks”", "But it's not just the CDC research. The American Bar Association, the AKC, the AVMA, the AVSAB, the NACA, the NCRC and the DOJ all oppose breed specific legislation based on available research on animal behaviour and on statistics from countries and locales that have introduced breed bans. I'm an animal behaviour scientist working in a country that HAS banned the pitbull (and a few other breeds) and it simply hasn't worked. It was simply in response to media frenzies like the propumentary posted here and dog bites are rising anyway. I'm not saying there's not an issue... but using the statistics from this video like the 103 people killed since 2014 and the estimated population of pitbulls in america being 18 million... that's around 0.00006% of pitbulls being responsible for a death since 2014. Would you ban a medication with a mortality rate like that? Would you ban a food with a mortality rate like that? It's easy to be sucked into media frenzies about stuff like this but think critically, explore the numbers they're offering you, find the citations and complete data... Don't be sucked in by fearmongering.", "I don't think we should ban, or kill off all pitbulls, but I do believe we should not allow them to be bred anymore. Castrate them all and eliminate them from the gene pool.", "Alot of anti pitbull rhetoric on reddit lately. Not that i own or like pitbulls. I have no opinion at all actually. Ive just seen like 6 anti pitbull posts in a wek and 0 in like 2 years prior.", "This is a very sound take\n\nWhen I was younger, I got a dog from a trash breeder. Not even a breeder, really, just some people with way too many pets in their home that they took minimal care of, which led to all the dogs fucking and thus a regular supply of puppies. \n\nExcept they weren't trying to make money off them. My dog cost $25.\n\nDownside of course is that she is a mix of three breeds that don't go well together physically (AmStaff/Lab/Beagle), so even after spending a lot of time and money to have her be a dog you can take places, her knees gave out repeatedly.", "To be fair...\n\nThat lady had her arms amputated ~~due to~~ and kidney failure. \n\nHer arms weren't ripped off by the dog.", "To be honest most small breeds are stupidly aggressive but any and all dogs can be aggressive; it's the upper limit for damage that a pitbull is capable of is significantly higher than most other breeds.", "Just like the plot for Attack on Titan!", "Pitbulls get compared with black people?", "They are actually banned in tons of countries. I believe the only countries that you can even import one into are the US and Canada.", "Oh you just happen to be defending pits in this post huh? Gtfo", "Unfortunately it is people such as yourself that are contributing to the problem of over breeding and aggressive traits. If you don't understand statistics and the consequences of trait breeding then don't comment as you only show bias. I love dogs, but have seen first hand the consequences of these dogs and it ain't pretty. The owners (friends) were devastated after an attack on our dog and have been told that if they are to keep this dog then it should not be in a confined space with other dogs or people it does not know. I do not trust Pit bulls and their variants...not because everyone of them is nasty, but the consequences of them being so is devastating...and more likely to happen than with other breeds....simple stats!", "It’s really down to the people. A while ago Reddit asked what’s should be illegal but isn’t. NOT Pit Bulls, but being able to get any breed of dog without proper training, experience, education, etc. should be really illegal and having a problem with them becoming a threat or dangerous should be heavily punished. The fact anyone can go get any dog is a problem, some people are hopeless when it comes to taking care of another living, breathing creature, and that’s goes far beyond dogs.", "We have bred dogs who have trouble breathing, have constant physical pain, or are so aggressive that are dangerous to humans and other animals, and are often abused and abandoned. This is cruelty pure and simple.", "Man, foxes look crazy adorable, especially the little noises they make (not the screams though). It's a shame that even IF that project continues indefinitely, it'll still be ages before foxes would come become 'decent' home pets, if at all possible.", "I guess I'm the closest to the group referencing statistics.\n\nI think pitbulls can be as loving or aggressive as any other dog. The difference is the power and lethalness. Any dog can be spooked or scared and accidentally bite. But the damage done by a pitbull is greater than done by other breeds. As an analogy, I don't want anyone to accidentally shoot me. But I'd much rather be shot by a bb gun than an assault rifle.", "Isn't that really a matter of semantics though -- the \"personality\" being an expression of the hormonal system? Someone who would be considered \"nervous\" would probably have higher levels of cortisol. And, if you kept selecting for people who had nervous personality traits, you'd eventually get the human equivalent of a chihuahua.", "“Cope”, I don’t even like pit bulls lol.\n\nStick to your video games.", "Dog bites is a terrible metric to use. Lets see the data for fatal attacks or attacks that required hospitalization.", "I have a dog that is part AmStaff. She's strong for a 70lb dog. \n\nWe used to live around the corner from a sketchy family with full-sized pit bulls. You know what I'm talking about -- the kind of pits that are kept on heavy chains in the driveway of the home. \n\nMy dog lived with, and nearly had her entire head eaten by, a 125lb Rottweiler...and I still have never seen any animal I've owned show as much recognition of fear as my dog did when we would walk past the home of the people around the corner and those pit bulls would come running out as far as the chains allowed them to.", "Well I don't like guns and I don't live somewhere where they are legal thank jeebus, but the two situations are not equal.\n\nThere could be made an argument that a law to ban a certain type of firearm is the beginning of a slipperly slope to ban all firearms since there are actual people in the US who want all guns banned for private citizens.\n\nThere same argument for dogs does not hold up because there are no movement arguing for banning all dogs.", "And those damned hi-points are nearly suicidal. Never know when they'll explode!", "4. There are more dogs now, and the attacks are less serious despite there being more of them happening.", "And do you see how the train question is nothing at all like the two dogs? Sacrificing one life to save five will make sense most of the time (more context needed though). \n\nThe two dogs are both unfamiliar and there is one child. There is no good reason to put the child in harms way. There is no punishment for not picking. \n\nIn the train example someone dies either way. In the dog example you can just keep walking and not endanger a kid.", "[slippery slope fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope)", "Only because they're small. Same thing applies to small dogs that would, if they were larger, absolutely try to fuck your shit up. \n\nI'm just glad we haven't reached a point where owning large cats like a lynx or a panther is common.", "Not necessarily. Asking how many litters they've produced from that sire and/or dame is a better indicator. \n\nGenerally speaking, it is usually suspect, I agree.", "Indiana is fucked lol\n\n>Authorities seized all the dogs, but returned them at the owners' request because local laws and ordinances did not allow them to euthanize dogs without the owners' consent if the dogs killed someone on the owners' property.", "i'm defending common sense", "dogs attack people other than their owners.", "Most/majority of dogs need to be trained to be socialized at an early age. \n\nNo matter the breed. It’s silly for you to ignore that fact with other dogs and only apply it to put bulls. \n\nBe against pit bulls all you want. I could give a fuck but do not spout ridiculous nonsense that every other dog DOESN’T need socialization training. They do. Any good dog owner knows that.", "Yeah, cannot downvote this bullshit enough. \nIf you think \"pit bull\" is a actual breed of dog, you have zero credibility.", "A ban helps, but I think the root issue is dog fighting. Aggressively crush dog fighting rings and you would greatly reduce the number of people breeding for aggression.", ">black people comparison.\n\nNever heard that one...", "I'm paying you to train the dog, not me! I don't want to actually put effort into owning another living creature. I just want to throw money at the problem to make it go away! \n\n/s", "For them it sure is!", "I remember years ago reading about scientists with the national institute for mental health who had done exactly that, and they actually escaped the lab. Wound up living on a farm creating some sort of hierarchical rat culture under some bushes.", "Just wait for a US political party to adopt the Pit Bull as the party animal or something.", "It's a possible sign. You are right.", "I know what you're trying to say, but you're using a slippery slope logical fallacy.", "Had an uncle who bred Red-nose Pitbulls for years in Florida. Loved them to death.\n\nEven he said that you could train them all you want, but you’re playing a certain amount of Russian roulette w/ this breed that isn’t the case with most other normal breeds. \n\nHe stopped breeding them when his stud which was fine up until then, got out of its cage and disemboweled about 8 other dogs. He found it sitting, wagging its tail with blood and gore all over its self. Shot it on the spot.", "I have a bully mix-breed and I still agree. \n\nSame logic applies to similar dogs like the Dogo Argentino or the Presa Canario.\n\nJust get a mastiff if you want a big dog that could be scary or whatever", "Prolly a good move to not expand on the idea that these or anyones pets should be up to a tasks that serve them. Thats was interesting.\n\nBut try harder buddy. Grew up around them my whole life. Ive seen the worst of them (which there is no saving) and ive seen them resemble nothing even remotely similar.\n\nI live in Denver where they actively have check-ins with breed owners to document behavior from these animals as they are currently attempting to lift the ban on the breed in the city.\n\nSo tell me how that isnt a functional way of addressing the problem.\n\nAlso, what other breeds dont do well in confined spaces with people it doesn’t know? Oh German Shepards you say? Wow! Theres more than one aggressive breed that exist in society! And its almost like, with owners having actual responsibility and awareness, these instances of danger dont happen with that breed, or others! Insane!", "The real issue I have with pitbulls are not whether they are more aggressive or not. It's the fact that if they do attack, they pose a much greater risk of serious injury or death. That is just a fact. Are other breeds aggressive? Yes. Are all breeds equal in the danger they pose? No.", "Honestly, fuck those people.", "The ignorance based fear in the comment section is truly depressing.", "Done perfectly, probably not as many as you'd think", "Notice how everyone avoided answering your question. They know what the answer is but that would go against their narrative.", "Mentally unsound people do, and it makes it a log easier to hurt a lot people when you give them a tool who's entire purpose is to cause harm to humans.", "Lions arent domesticated.", "It may be cold, but euthanizing a potentially dangerous dog because people don't want to adopt a potentially dangerous dog is not the worst thing in the world. If nobody is capable of taking on on the enhanced risk of owning a pit bull, let alone willing to take on that risk, then let it die. It's unfortunate but better for everyone in the long run, including the pit bull.", "So you're only counting pitbull bites, not dog bites? I thought we were discussing dog bites why are you moving the goal posts?\n\n​\n\nThere's a few reasons bites might increase. But either way its a direct result of the legislation.\n\n​\n\n1. misreporting the breed wouldn't explain the rise in dog bites, it would only explain a plateau.\n2. people may be more aware or reporting but these statistics are based on bites reported by medical professionals, not on self reports. So if it were about likelihood of reporting it would be that the bites received are becoming more severe and are more likely to require medical attention... so it's making the issue worse.\n3. i know this ones facetious but... yeah... people who own dogs are gonna keep owning dogs they'll just get a different breed and unsurprisingly if the owners are the issue those other breeds are going to fill that gap...", "But your assumption is that *all* pit bulls have been bred to be this way.\n\nIf you replaced your generalized/narrow-minded way of thinking and applied it to people of a certain race, ethnicity, or religion I’m pretty sure you’d either reconsider your position or ask for a one-way ticket to the 1800s so you can join more ppl like you.", "Because people then use it as a catch-all excuse. They may be more prone to the behavior, but if you get a pit bull, leave her on a chain outside to look tough and scary, smack her on the nose when she barks, and taunt her constantly, and then she mauls you for trying to give her a hug, it’s not because “pit bulls are bred to be aggressive.” It’s because you’re a piece of shit that shouldn’t own a dog.\n\nSo so many dog owners are horrible and shouldn’t have pets. While the issue might be more complicated than the staunch pro-pittie people say, it’s not like their breeding is the only reason people ever get attacked. A dog as physically strong as a pit bull would be dangerous in the hands of a shitty owner even without any predisposition. Making the entire breed out to be evil monsters will only add to the cruelty.", "Also, I own a pit mix. She's a sweetheart but every animal shelter within 50 miles of me is 90%+ pitbulls or put mixes. People get these dogs and can't handle them and bring them back. Or don't take care of them in the first place so they get taken. The breed specific legislations that exist are meant to curb those very things.", ">For the sake of this exercise you must send your child in to play in one of those yards.\n\nYou can apply whatever logic you need for this to work. A man points a gun at the child at says you have to send him into one of the yards, or the kid dies. Like - you're literally railing against this question for using one of the *most* common wordings in a thought experiment.", "This is about the level of knowledge I expect out of Redditors on this subject.", "The UK like everywhere else in europe only banns the foreign pit bull breeds but pretends that the local ones are not pit bulls (Why staffies aren't banned but APBTs are). Europe is so provincial in its attitudes its funny.", "As someone who owned one of the sweetest American Bulldogs that I ended up putting a bullet in it’s brain without hesitation after it showed sudden aggression towards my newborn daughter, no you. \n\nYour dog is not special.", "thanks", "My grandparents had a wonderful pit bull when I was younger. Still the stats don’t lie, there’s no need for this breed anymore.", "Bernese mountain dog. They are from Switzerland not Burma. Anyway to answer your question I would obviously pick the latter. Border Collies are nippy, but they rarely leave damage.", ">It is just a dog.\n\nYou have to actually be retarded to believe this.", "Domestication has nothing to do with it. \n\nWhen something is domesticated it means it has learned to live with humans to a degree. You can domesticate a lion if you raise it from birth and it train it. \n\nIt doesn’t stop being a lion genetically though, since its instincts and personality are imbedded in its body and genes. The only thing domestication does is teach it that humans aren’t a natural food source until one day it realizes it they can be. The difference with dogs isn’t that they will won’t eat you but they will attack, which applies to pit bulls", "Facts are ignorance? Oh please, do tell.", "Mmm my parents have a pit bull and she is a sweetheart…but that little bitch bit me in her sleep because she sleeps with her eyes open like a goddamn shark. \n\nIf that could confuse me as a 39 year old then it’s confusing for a 3 year old. \n\nPits are sweet AND dangerous it’s really not hard to figure out.", "My Labradoodle is living proof of that, the breeder breeds for personality and intelligence. Takes about a day of mildly intense training for her to learn something (ringing a bell to go outside took her four potty breaks to figure out), we had her less than a week and she figured out how to get around the baby gate, she'll watch how you do things and copy it.", "I'm not saying your wrong, but there's gotta be something at play here when pitbulls make up <8% of all dogs but are responsible for over 70% of attacks.\n\nMaybe asshole owners always have pitbulls? But it's still a huge thing", "They have outer ear problems, which is why they get cropped. My staffy wasn't cropped, and did ok, but lots of them develop horrible blood blisters on their ears that don't heal properly.", "I mean, yes, but also their brains. Brains are not magically immune to selective pressure.", "There is zero evidence that the entire breed was bred to fight.\n\nIf a tribe of humans were once cannibals, by your logic *all* descendents pose a risk of eating your children.\n\nDo you see how backwards that logic is?", "Yep. My favorite is the guy making it a race issue. 100% of people would not choose the pit bull yard.", "Oh here's your citation [\"Prince George's County, MD, spends more than $250,000 annually to enforce its ban on pit bulls\"](https://www.aspcapro.org/resource/are-breed-specific-laws-effective). The UK spends millions on it to not much effect.\n\nShooting a dog isn't an approved method of euthanasia but it's not just the cost of putting the dog down. There's cost to investigating, to hiring staff, vets to assess, criminal proceedings, training, etc.", "Pit Bull isn't a breed but is a whole class of distantly related mastiff breeds. Each place in europe tends to pretend their local-ish pit bull breed isn't a pit bull, but that the other breeds are.", "Which is odd because we only have dogs because of this fact.", "I'm moving no goal posts. The OP is about pitbulls which you know, as a researcher, is the most dangerous and most deadly dog breed and this is why many countries and terrotories - including mine - have banned them.\n\nDog bites are going to happen no matter what. But a dog bite is not a dog bite and any dog that has an unsatisfactory rate of severe injury or death should be banned in my opinion. Don't think you can do a \"gotcha\" on me as if I'm shielding German Shepards. If they are too violent we can just ban them as well. I don't mind.\n\nThe professionals and the policy makers in my country decided that German Shepards are not necessary to ban because, i guess, the bites are not severe enough compared to the banned nanny-dogs.", "Selective breeding and evolution are not the same thing at all. Also domesticated dogs are less intelligent than wild canines. No matter how much you breed it for smarts a dog can’t get smarter than about a 5 year old. They don’t have the neurological capability to do more. Take chimpanzees for instance, undoubtedly smart creatures. Chimpanzees have the vocal ability to speak human language. They however lack the brain connectivity to do so. So you can breed the smartest chimps known to man but it will never be able to speak because it’s brain is not designed to do so. Has nothing to do with intelligence, the biology of their brains is limited.", "What use does a chihuahua or a pomeranian have or a wiener dog? they’re not working animals or service animals.", "All dogs have a herding instinct to some degree. Wolves have it too, they use it while hunting. Herding dogs just have it a lot stronger than others.", "Sheltie-Corgi mix? Didn't see that one coming.", "That number is by total bites and as the labs are far and away the most popular dog it makes sense they top the list.", "poodles also have a few other odd behaviors. They love to stand on their back legs etc.", "I feel like a lot of these problems could be solved without banning breeds if \n\n\nA. Unlicensed dog breeding was banned and thoroughly enforced (with the caveat that spay/neuter was made available at low/no cost as a result\n\nB. Dog license laws on the books were also enforced.", "Or the idea that humans are the problem. If a bear attacks a human in the wild and kills it well we must track down and kill it for being a bear in the wild.", "It used to be all the rage in Germany.", "You are being willfully obtuse. Obviously the risk profile from the breeds isn't remotely the same. The likelihood of a child getting mauled by golden retriever and a pitbull are not remotely comparable. Even taking temperament out of the equation, goldens were breed to have soft mouths, they don't have the same bite strength as pitbulls.", "Sounds like your dog is possessed lol. If that’s your tolerance you probably shouldn’t have any dog cause a German shepherd does the same thing", "Any retard who grows so attached to a pitbull can get equally happy and attached to a golden retriever. Stfu.", "\"in a thread about pit bull behaviors, I predict people will discuss pit bull behaviors\"\n\nMove over Nostradamus, we got a true oracle here.", "Yes, so labs are not as safe as a wet noodle. They are bred for hunting and are very protective animals.\n\nMy family had a lab as well. People need to stop acting like their dogs are completely safe because they’re some certain breed.", "No. We take our pitties, and rotties, and even or doogo Argentino with us all over the place including, France, Spain, Portugal, Malta and Italy. And those are just places we go, or went to, regularly pre-covid. I could go on, but the point is they can be imported all over. As show dogs, they need not even be fixed. As pets, which ours are, all that most require is that they are chipped, and their info is made readily available to authorities if necessary, and if our dogs cause damage to property or person, we pledge to compensate for the damage. Countries vary on regulations for requiring they be fixed if staying permanently, but I can attest and prove that \"vicious breeds\" can most certainly move from country to country far beyonf the US and Canada with very little problem. The paperwork can be a pain if you aren't used to it, but that's about it.", "Love it, gone are the days of actually having a discussion on reddit :(", "They have a lower prey drive than whippets and most other terrier breeds, as well as most hounds. What makes them different is how strong they are, and that they aren't as afraid of adults as most dogs. If you look at the stats, most dogs are willing to bite children, but are less likely to bite adults, when harassed/threatened. \n\n\nOf all the dogs I have owned, the one with the strongest prey drive was a labradoodle.", "go gnaw on a bag of dicks", "A clearly biased site is your source. I cannot use it for anything. Besides what is the total budget of the county? The UK claim is also un-sourced. \n\n$250,000 isn't even much if it prevents death or maiming of small children in my opinion.", "Nobody’s ever been mauled by a pug. Pugs are now being upbread meaning that they’re being mixed with other dogs like beagles and chihuahuas to make their snouts longer", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit\\_bull", "People who say things like this with 100% conviction have no place in society 😂\n\n\nEdit/ same dude who commented this also making competely serious post that Robin Williams isnt funny.\n\nYall a lost cause man.", "My hypothesis is that with normal training and socialization they have a similar propensity to aggression as many other “unproblematic” dogs. It is the instinctive manner in which this aggression is acted on which is the big problem. They bite hard, hold hard, and shake hard.\n\nSo, where another breed shows aggression and bites someone, the bite may require a bandaid, that’s it. No one goes to the hospital, and no records are taken. But the Pit’s instinctual bite, hold, and tear, tactics make a vast disparity in the damage done in these cases.\n\nYou can safeguard against those instincts, but once the activation threshold is passed for them, there’s very little stopping it.", "Fuck that. The dog is aggressive. Animals don’t have the mental ability to understand redemption and moral change. If you’re worried about it being put down in a Shelter than take it to the vet and pay to have it put down. But all your asking for with keeping it is another agressive attack.", "I'd be happy to have a discussion based on sound reasoning and not fallacious thinking.", "> for the sake of this exercise", "According to the data, you have a 0.0000000105% chance of being killed by a pit bull. Why the fuck is everyone going crazy about pit bulls? Yeah, jesus, this is such a miniscule problem:\nhttps://imgur.com/a/i9ICfFz", "**~POST REMOVED DUE TO POLITICS~** *probably*", "You would take that chance on a random dog you’ve never met? Stats mean nothing when you can’t vouch for the temperament of either specific dog. I could care less about the breeds in this scenario. They’re both strange dogs to me and I wouldn’t chance it. If you would then you shouldn’t be in charge of a kid.", "Forgot the group that says they and their owners should all be killed, then the fringe group that says all dogs and their owners should be killed", "The two-year-old had 90 stitches in his leg too.", "An almost equal number of upvotes and comments?\n\n*Oh my…*", "If you’re not getting them from an ethical breeder, you’re getting them from a backyard breeder or adopting one that was produced by a backyard breeder.", "Sorry proffessor, I will take my tiny brain elsewhere", "But still a very very long time. Like at least a thousand or more generations. Since we don’t understand fully what drives animals to be more intelligent. You can breed for bigger brains but breeding for actual intelligence is hard because intelligence is hard to quantify.", "I really, really hate that \"Any dog can attack\" argument. Sure they can, but most other dogs aren't 200 pounds of solid muscle with a bite that could go through steel.", "Just here for the comments\n*Sorts by conversational*\n\nWish me luck", "I'm just leaving this website here for the people that want realistic information about pitbulls\n\n[https://www.dogsbite.org/dogsbite-fatal-pit-bull-attack-state-maps.php](https://www.dogsbite.org/dogsbite-fatal-pit-bull-attack-state-maps.php)\n\nEDIT: This person 100% was being an asshole by misconstruing my initial post. Her tone was hostile and accusatory. It's better to just block these crazies than to engage with them. There's no convincing someone who is a hostile jerk that they weren't.", "Which is why I don’t recommend them to people with kids, and bear in mind, I’m single with no kids, and I’m 6’1” and 270lbs so I can control a big dog like that", "The thing I don't get about this whole \"debate\" is *why the fuck it matters*. It's not like we only have 1 dog breed. Just pick another one. I've had plenty of dogs and they were all great. \n\nI don't think anyone is advocating coming into your home and killing your pet, they're just saying maybe don't make more of the breed that kills the most people.", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull", "Clever girl.", "Dog breeding should be illegal, at least breeding dogs that are know to have severe health issues because of their breeds.", "Jeez, I guess I should've ignored it?", "If that were true, people would have trouble with all of those examples, and not just the last one.\n\nSo no, that's not it.", "Gone are the days of actually having a discussion on reddit.", "https://imgur.com/a/i9ICfFz", "When you say \"individuals\" in that context it sounds more like you are saying people. A person is an individual responsible for their own actions outside of heavily altered mental states brought on by disease or damage. \n\nA dog is an animal that, while possessing something of an individual personality, is still the product of many, many generations of artificial genetic selection for a purpose, including behavior. A pointer points, a retriever retrieves, a herder herds. These are not skills that are simply taught, otherwise you could theoretically train any dog to do anything to a high level. Much of a dog's behavior is based on instinct. You can suppress instinct through rigorous training, but you can't eliminate it in an individual dog. \n\nSo using the word \"individual\" means two very different things when talking about dogs versus talking about people. And individual pit bull might be fine and friendly, but even a fine and friendly pit bull may turn violent and deadly in a bad situation, and they are more likely to do so than other breeds.", "literally, both of my dogs have a stronger bite force than Pitbulls. \n\nhttps://breedingbusiness.com/dog-breeds-with-the-strongest-bite-force/", "Aggressive attack on who? Me? If that were really the case that it was extremely likely that he would attack me, that would be my own choice. But it wouldn’t attack other dogs. I don’t take him around other dogs, and when I walk him in the early mornings (when no one else is outside) he still wears the muzzle.\n\n>Animals don’t have the mental ability to understand redemption and moral change.\n\nDisregarding the studies that suggest otherwise, people also suffer from this issue as well. Which is why we are not required or obligated to deal with people incapable of doing this, in any capacity.", "So we shouldn't attempt it because it's hard?", "My theory, in line with attracting shit owners, is the shit owners will then switch to the next most aggressive breed, and after years of fucking them up, we’ll have statistics similar to the pit bull statistics now. And then we’ll be having this discussion about that breed. And then the breed that follows it.", "MR WORLDWIDE!!!!!", "Domestication - The process of taming an animal and keeping it as a pet or on a farm\n\nIt is something that is inherited through lineage which is why dogs are born with that dependence on humans. Perhaps domestication is a broad term but a lion that has been raised in captivity by humans is basically the same thing. It’s a process of taming an animal to live alongside or in the care of humans. \n\nA lion raised that way from birth, removed from the wild and from it’s species stops being a complete lion. That’s why they must be rehabilitated back into the wild as they are older otherwise they won’t survive. It’s still a lion genetically and instinctually, it’s has all those traits still since domestication doesn’t remove them without breeding and lineage which takes years. \n\nThat brings me to the point I’m making.\n\nA domesticated lion is a still a lion.\n\nA dog is a domesticated animal which includes pit bulls \n\nPit bulls are domesticated but they have been selectively bred to be strong, aggressive and protective. No matter how domesticated it is those traits and genes will always be imbedded until they are selectively removed from the animals genes. \n\nCase in point a pit bull requires intensive training and ownership", "Until you’ve had your dog attacked by an unleashed pit bull while walking at the park, then you’ll never see these breeds as lovable pets. It seems the people (and families) who love these breeds tend to be careless in how they raise their pets.", "You don't think that happens? Some is random genetic chance, but there are plenty of neurogenetic issues in humans that could easily get passed on and shape your personality. If you seek a partner, chances are you'll find someone similar to you. Breed and you've passed on the genetic component of your personality. Generation after generation, it becomes more pronounced.", "''American Pit Bull Terrier''", "Joke's on you, all top comments are variations of meta comments like yours.", "So far it’s been pretty reasonable, at least from what I’ve seen.", "the train conductor could hit the brakes, or the railroad could have not run at that time, or you could untie the people. but you dont because thats not the point of the question!!!!!", "Don't give them ideas!", "Meanwhile I am just confused by OP's title.\n\nMakes it sound like the primary goal of pit bull lobbyists is to bring pit bulls into the home of vulnerable families with small children, which is, like, cartoonishly villainous.", "My pit bull is 40 lbs, she couldn’t and wouldn’t hurt a fly. You’re talking about body structure without acknowledging that “pit bulls” aren’t a breed, there are dozens of types of dogs under that header who have all different types of body and head shapes. This is just bad science.", "FYI, Caesar Milan is a hack. Please refer to veterinary behavior specialists instead. His methods are cruel, unscientific, and entirely invented in his mind.", "Step 1. Make up a nonsensical scenario.\n\nStep 2. Congratulate self on made up stat to support nonsensical scenario. \n\nStep 3. Bask in self- importance.\n\nNow go tell your friends and family how you won the internet today.", "Here's my unwarranted opinion - I think chihuahuas are ugly af with their big eyes bulging from their heads", "Looks like its totally working. I read that article you linked, it contains very, very, very little data beyond pitbulls are biting people way less in the past 15 years, which was the intention. So my question for you, why do you think dog bites overall are on the rise?", "You’re a doctor and you supplied supporting evidence with a link to Wikipedia? 😂", "There are neither beginnings nor endings to the wheel of time", "I was walking in my neighborhood, work from home, wanted to get some steps in on the record. I have done this route a number of times before. This time as I rounded one of the corner I notice this garage door was crack about 2 feet up and out came a white spotted pit-bull came snarling towards me. I never felt so naked. This was the scariest shit.\n\nThe owner heard my plight as I was not going down quietly. He walk up slowly, taking his time and said \"come here boy\" almost in a whisper. The dog called off the attack and went back inside the garage. I called the police.", "Good thing I’m talking about dogs, then. It should eliminate any confusion about humans, which are not specifically bred en masse for any specific purpose.\n\nSo *every* pointer points? Is that what I’m to understand?", "There’s no more danger from a Pit than from a Dalmatian or Rottweiler. They’re just the target of these campaigns because the media has demonized them.", "That's why I always sort by controversial", "Same reason to never date an a\nOrphan", "I'm going to breed a Pug with a Pitbull because fuck you.", "Over fifty pitbull bans have been repealed across America in the last five years.\n\nKeep seething about it douchebags.", "Incest incoming", "Yep, its why chihuahuas are ok but pit bulls have issues. A chihuahua can't kill me in almost any situation. A pit bull on the other hand...", "Is it even possible for eugenics to be applied in a non discriminatory way?...", "I think a lot of people say this without realizing the implications of how it would actually be implemented. How do you define “pit bull”? It’s not an actual breed. Would you drive around, rounding up peoples family pets, taking peoples family members away who have never done any harm in their lives and euthanizing them. Be honest, if that’s what you want to do. Frankly I think that’s pretty sick.", "Chihuahuas and wiener dogs also aren't mauling people to death...", "Humans weren't artificially selected and bred over centuries to produce certain traits.\n\nNatural selection and artificial selection are not the same thing.", "> I'm just ~~leaving this website here for the people that want realistic information about pitbulls~~ *going to ignore you calling me out on my bullshit and try to distract you.*", "There’s no videos of Dalmatians attacking and killing people because the media likes them. You could take any dog breed and make a video like this.", "We only want facts that advance narratives, but thank you for your contribution", "At 17:20, the pitbull advocate admits any dog regardless of breed can snap and attack others. \n\nOK. Any dog can snap. But pitbulls are literally bred for their power and instincts when it comes to fighting. So if a pitbull snaps, it's going to power it's instinct and start mauling on whatever can shed blood.\n\nI won't deny that your pet pitbull is a cuddly goofball, because most dogs are. But like they said at the beginning, they are until they're not.", "Which is why we tend to only keep cats that are small enough that they can't do much damage if they decide to get all murdery", "Domicile means house. You're thinking of docile.", "Source?", "Hahaha so you don’t even know the genetic makeup of your dog and you want to make claims about its behaviour?\n\nUnless you know your dogs lineage, you can’t glean any insights about it’s behaviour from its genetics. \n\nFor all you know, it’s problems are directly due to it being a pit mix.", "Thats one of the important factors for pit bulls. They are STRONG and heavy powerful bite force and they don't let go. Its very capable of fucking you up, more so than most dog breeds and more likely to go berserk on you than say a golden retriever. A bad combination of natural aggression and capability.", "I don't disagree, he is a hack, but he is also the reason pitbulls are being pushed so hard on people across North America and pit bulls with aggressive tendencies are not being put down as they should be. He works directly with these lobbies and promotes the breed under false advertising.\n\nWatch the documentary, regardless of your feelings toward the breed you will likely come out understanding just how toxic these lobby groups pushing no kill policy of pitbulls are.", "I love my dog, I would do anything for her. You can pry her from my cold dead hands. She’s 40 lbs and half lab but it doesn’t matter to you people. You’d still take her from me and that’s fucking sick.", "70 but still a whole lot", "Fuck sarcasm tags, just commit to the joke rather than ruin it with shit tags.", "What if we just killed the owners instead", "This is the most obvious propaganda I have ever seen", "Actually it's not the Akita. Malumutes have the most risk rates at dog bite fatalities and it's not even close. And for those that will day this is from pitbullinfo as a pro pit bull site - this is from an independent review when you factor in that Pit bull types account for 20 percent of the population.\n\n https://www.pitbullinfo.org/dog-bite-statistics.html", "Won't be long before the 'higher ups' say take it down though.\n\nThat breed is like a protected class or something...", "I think it's more about the fact that pit bulls were bred to have huge and extremely powerful mouths and upper bodies. So when they do attack, they are really good at it.\n\nChihuahuas actually are more prone to attack, but they suck at it, so it's not a big issue.", "Cool, I just like to inform any time I see his name.", "You’re an idiot.", "Race isn’t even real.", "Way to ruin your sarcasm with tags", "Why not apply it to all dogs? Plenty of horrific dog bites from various breeds.", "This drives me nuts. I see like 100 pound men and women walking around the neighborhood with 85lb pit bulls they rescued. Typically they’re first time dog owners that believe every dog is good and just needs love. I’m a dog owner and have always loved dogs but unfortunate as it is, some of these dogs do not belong in society.", "Got chased by two off-leash pit bulls in high school, in neighborhood near my home. In hindsight I should have called the cops and animal control.", "Don't forget they also like to be the mean-spirited but in the end a good friend-dog in animated movies!", "Or all dogs? Because any dog can hurt someone?", "Plenty of these same fools won't get vaccinated but they'll cry about pit bulls", "Luckily in Canada, the police don't serve the victim, they serve the public. Victims don't get to say whether they want to \"press charges\" or not.", "It’s allot like gun laws in a way. If you simply look at the statistics and research on the issue, it is obvious that legislation can do something to preserve human life. But with so many issues floating in the air it’s really hard to focus the general public on the issue and to actually vote for it. On the other hand you have an organized, passionate, and well motivated voting base of owners and enthusiasts who are willing to go above and beyond to block legislation.\n\nThen boom, you’ve got a good old fashioned 21 Century democratic boondoggle on your hands. Nothing gets done, more people die.", "Agreed, shoot the owners too.", "Lol. Yes, every breed of dog is safer than a pit bull.", "ITT: people with opinions on all sides on something they know little to nothing about.", "You guys are insane. This is an idiotic movement and you should find a more serious issue to focus your attention.\n\nOkay now reply with all your stats and stupid links about some kid getting bitten. You cannot make me care about this", "...The train question is exactly the same because you can \"just not be near the lever to begin with\". Both situations are purely hypothetical, stop trying to make this more complex than it is.", "I've had labs and retrievers my entire life, I'd like the think im a good dog trainer and spend the majority of my free time with my dog working with them or playing with them. \n\n5 months ago I got a full bred pitbull puppy and this little shit has been the hardest dog to train. She's food aggressive which we are constantly working on, she still pees in the house and occasional poop (luckily we have hard wood floors) and constantly bites. I've put so much time into this dog and she has been such a challenge to work with. Sweetheart of a dog, but Jesus christ is she difficult", "Everyone knows human parents pass on temperaments and other traits. But race isn’t even real. Its not a thing in science. Its a social construct from slavers and colonialist.", "Agreed. I can fight off an aggressive Shih Tzu without much risk of harm. A pitbull is different story.", "I understand that pit bulls are dangerous, but why all the stuff on the front page over the past couple of days? Is there a pit bull convention I’m unaware of?", "You're literally proving my point. Prey drive isn't personality. All dogs have some level of prey drive. Not all dogs are aggressive. You can train aggression out of dogs", "I guess you should start telling people owning any medium sized dog or up is a bad idea because plenty of studies show that there's no correlation between pit bulls and higher rates of aggression or attack incidents.", "Fuck pitbulls", "In Germany fighting dogs aren't banned but you have to jump through so many hoops to get one that nobody does it. I haven't seen a pitbull in 10 years or so. Life has become so much more relaxed since those things are gone.", "Ah yes the weekly anti-pitbull karma farm has arrived.", "I answered your question, and I even agreed that I wouldn't send my kid into the pit bull yard, I don't see what the problem is.", "Yup. Any consideration I had for the pro pitbull side died when I saw one grab on to a little girl while ~10 grown adults beat it relentlessly to no effect. Snapping turtles are not as bad as these fucking death machines. 80% of the reason I carry a pistol is for pitbulls.", "That's because hundreds of thousands of people die each year in road fatalities.", "I don’t consider socialization to be “training”. Socialization is a necessary and simple activity for a social animal like a dog. \n\nIf you don’t socialize your dog, you’re a lazy asshole who is psychologically abusing your animal. \n\nSocialization is a simple thing that you can do while walking your dog daily. But so many people can’t even be bothered to take their dogs out for a walk, then they act surprised when it gets loose and goes on a tear. \n\nAnd then there’s those people that *do* walk their dogs but actively drag them away from every other dog, never letting them interact with other dogs. \n\nThose people are outright training their animals to be fearful of other dogs and people all because they can’t be bothered to stop for a minute or two.\n\nMy neighbour has a dog that never gets walked and it’s afraid of damn well everything.", "So are we going to do the same for Malumutes, Chows, Saint Bernards, Husky, Dobermans, rottweiler, Mastiffs, and Akitas who as a percentage rate have higher dog bite fatalities based on their average population of dogs. Pit butt types make up close to 20 percent of dogs now. So if there were the same number of Malumutes compared to Pit bull types than there will be nearly 7x more fatal attacks from them but I don't here about BSL from them?", "A good 1/3 of redditors are too fucking stupid to get sarcasm or irony, then the other 1/3 probably drank the Kool-aid and agree with that statement unironically.\n\nEdit: I do feel like the first portion is kind of unfair because a good portion have also conditioned themselves to be outraged as a first response, or to obnoxiously correct people for some fleeting feeling of self-worth.", "Mine resembles a seal most of the time.", "I find it’s similar to arguing about guns. Sure, YOURE a responsible owner, but think about how many people out there that just aren’t.", "I have a 10 year old pit(ish) mix, she was abused before I got her in the shelter and today she's a great dog. Her name is Tama.\n\nI leave her unattended with my kid, and do, any day. Their relationship is great, I know how she behaves when she's uncomfortable and I've seen my kid do some pretty crazy things to her, (in a controlled environment), and she always responds with love. Outside of the house she doesn't need a leash even in the thickest of traffic, she has immaculate recall and heel and knows dozens of verbal commands, invitations and the differences between the two. Rarely does she needs to be told anything twice, she understand very well. Ultimately, she is a couch dog in it's greatest definition and will literally cuddle a whole family right off of their own couch. She's got a lot of love and is incredibly loyal, and I think that this could be the root cause many don't understand.\n\n\nWhen provoked by another dog, she is confident, strong and protective. She can play just fine with any dog, but as soon as it's gone too far, there is little warning if you can't read it, and if the other dog doesn't back down, it's on. She was in 3 pretty serious fights in the period of 2 years and as a result, Tama wears a muzzle whenever we're outside with other dogs. She's now 10 years old, and hasn't had a fight in 7 years. She's the greatest dog ever and poses 0 threat. Why anyone would want to ban, or put down dogs like this is the truly the saddest thing when all you need to do is understand how to control your dog. If you're not sure, give it a muzzle. It does no harm, they can breathe, drink and play all the same. \n\nPeople need to be held liable for the actions of their pets. People should be responsible, respectful, and treat their animals with love, while understanding the type of dog that they are adopting. This sub shows none of that. Banning accomplishes none of that. Address the root cause by promoting love and education while forbidding all forms of dog breeding except for very specific situations. There are millions of dogs out there. we don't need more. Especially not from back yard breeders who pervertedly raise confident strong dogs like these for their own pleasure. \n\nTama was named \"Money\" when I adopted her, and I still have her bloodstained collar. If I ever met the owner, I'd go absolutely pitbull on him myself, and no muzzle or leash would hold me back.", "Feel like it’s a similar dynamic to a lot of other “disproportionate population” statistics tbh. Like “black people make up a disproportionate number of violent criminals”. It’s not because black people are somehow more violent than others ceteris paribus, it’s just that black people are more likely to be poor, grow up in single parent households, etc. etc. and those things generally lead to higher chance of committing a violent crime. \n\nI’d bet there’s a similar cause and affect relationship with pit bulls.", "1 group will mention that sheep/herding dogs nip at children or that time they got bitten by a police German shepherd", "No, the breeding and genetic disposition for random violence is the culprit, not \"bad owners\" (people that blink wrong and upset the pit bull). Sorry you can't cow me with shaming language. I operate on facts", "And for all you know your dogs had pit bull in them too. Your initial argument is completely foolish. You’re just digging deeper. Assuming you respond that you’ve had all your dogs tested, that means you’ve never owned a dog before these tests were available, never mind their questionable reliability.\n\nMy sister has asshole dogs too. A shih tzu, a Pomeranian, and one that is a mix between the two. She treats them like royalty. Must be pit in them too, right? You’re so simple. Dig deeper.", "I posted this because I saw an article in r/news about a pit bull who had torn a woman's arms off. The thread was quickly locked and people in the top rated comments were immedeatly blaming the woman for owning a pit she could not control.\n\nI posted this as it is important people recognize these lobby groups are a big reason so many pit bull owners are ending up with pits they cannot handle.", "Every pointer knows how to point. Will they spontaneously start pointing without provocation? Maybe, maybe not. But the concept wouldn't be strange to them, it would come naturally because that's what they are designed to do. That's what makes them a domesticated animal.\n\nPit bulls are not defective, they do what mankind has programmed them to do. Nobody is arguing that pit bulls are some kind of warped design gone out of control, the argument is that what they are designed to do (kill) is totally at odds with what they are largely kept for now (housepet). There are plenty of other kinds of dogs much more suitable for pet life. Nobody should have a pit bull as a pet.", "Fair point", "You're suggesting that every comment here is fact?", "That’s why orangutans are illegal in CT", "I get that you're joking, but some pure race cats are as gentle as it can be and will never attack you in their lifetime.", "I was bit in the face by a pit bull and my staffordshire terrier also got bit by a off leash pit bull. 95% of the time it’s all down to shitty dog owners, whether they have a pit bull or a German shepherd these people will always have violent dogs", "Disagree completely. In some idealistic sense I understand where you're coming from. In practice, our ideas of what the \"right characteristics\" are so short sighted and stupid. Even if approached with benevolent intentions, it's going to fall short of tried-and-true genetic diversity.", "Honestly, mitigating the risk is not difficult. I think it’s just lazy/naïve owners who are responsible for most problems.", "You’re ignoring the fact that your dog has instinctively shown aggression when it felt fearful. You may not have a problem with that but you’re relying on the chance that nothing ever happens to you where you will always have the dog in your presence and control at all times. That’s not always going to be the case and any outside element can separate your control over the dogs life. \n\nThe bottom line is, you own a dog that you KNOW shows aggression and you KNOW is capable of harming people, but you’re more concerned about how it would hurt your feeling about putting it down? That’s not compassion, that’s selfishness.", "Hey, lions are safe if you TRAIN them right!", "[ **Jump to 17:20 @** Pit Bulls Unleashed: Should They Be Banned? - The Fifth Estate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA&t=0h17m20s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: The Fifth Estate, Video Length: [42:36])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@17:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA&t=0h17m15s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "What kind of Jurassic park shit are you talking about? 200lbs ??? Bite thru steel??? Are you talking about a fucking robot???", "God damn dude. That's an insane story.", "Although both dogs are unfamiliar one dog has the physical ability to clamp its jaws in a way the other doesn’t, and you’re ignoring that.", "It's very sad I had to scroll this far for a reasonable and rational comment describing the actual issue.", "Because I want to. Suck a dick nosy bitch", "This is way too much of a generalization. Species of dogs may be more prone to a higher prey drive, but that doesn't mean that you can trust any dog to not attack an unguarded child. The correct answer would be neither.", "You should go tell that to the children who gets mauled, i'm sure it will fix it.", "I'm so lucky that my dog and wife are alive after being attacked by a pit bull a few years ago. She just jumped in the middle of the fight and wrapped herself around our dog, a little dachshund/pug mix. Animal control didn't do anything about it. I just had to build a fence, since the pit bull was my neighbor's. I was still afraid of seeing the pit bull on a walk in the neighborhood.\n\nSomething like that makes you wish this breed that was bred to kill dogs was banned in America like they are in Europe.", "Bahahaha 😂😂😂 How ignorant.\n\nThe Fifth Estate is an award-winning investigative journalism program aired on CBC since 1975. It was the second TV program to win an Academy award, after the Twilight Zone. It's the Canadian equivalent of 60 Minutes.", "Are you dense?\n\nAll dogs do have some level of prey drive because it’s an instinct. It’s harder to suppress something embedded so deeply into an animal.\n\nAggression is not present in all dogs but it’s more present in certain breeds. You can not train aggression out of any animal until it it’s selectively bred out it. The same way some dogs are inherent more docile but there are cases of the same breed that are aggressive either due to upbringing or it was born with a more aggressive nature. \n\nThis applies to pit bulls. Aggression is a part of what they are, there will be some that are born more docile and not as prominent to aggressive tendencies. \n\nYou however can not “train that out” only suppress and train the animal to control these urges which is basically what they are. That’s why non aggressive breeds are more lax to that type of training since they aren’t inherently that way. Pit bulls are, so they require intensive training and a responsible owner. \n\nNo matter how much training goes into it, it will always be part of what makes them what they are so precaution has to be taken either way, good training though makes it much more manageable but I can guarantee you the majority of pit bull owners don’t take that into consideration", "There’s far more factual evidence and data that shows why Bull Breeds are more dangerous than not.", "He has endless resources but no muzzle? Mine wore a muzzle after the first fight for months. I'm ashamed that two more fights later came, but they weren't her fault and it took me a while to admit to myself that who is to blame doesn't matter. She hasn't shown any aggression in years, in any form, yet she wears the muzzle because it saves any dog from any possibility of ever getting hurt.\n\nIf there's ever the slightest doubt, use a fucking muzzle. It's so god damn simple.", "This is silly. They arent even the only aggressive breed that is commonly owned.\n\nWhat THEY ARE is a breed that was systematically breed in the Slums of the US by black market dog fighters for years and are now attempting to be integrated back into normal households and society. Thats a contrast from any other aggressive breed you could make an example of, like a German Shepard or Doeberman. \n\nThe litters of these animals that are distributed and treated like normal dog with normal socialization do not exhibit this projected behavior. And if they do exhibit the behavior even once, any reputable and appropriate owner would make the choices to prevent any harm from occurring.", "I could see the responsible pit bull owning group that allows their dog to get out and attack innocent people/pets are likely staunch supporters of vaccines. /s", "Thats a pretty stupid generalization", "That's a myth from U.S. television that criminal charges are up to the victim. \n\nThe only thing you can do is decide to tell the police or not, it's up to the district attorney to \"press charges\" or not.", "My Instagram ready Aussie is a mind reading cow working savant! He has barely been around them, but when I have needed to move some cattle that were in the wrong spots and he was with me, he made adjustments and assisted me with the job so perfectly it blew my mind.", "You aren't kidding. The deflection is unreal. \n\nThis is an extremely simple hypothetical situation that really does not require debate about racism or the believability of the scenario.", "Wait, so what is a pitbull exactly again?", "Would it make you feel better if we specifically named every single breed that falls under the pitbull moniker instead?\n\nFor example: American Staffordshire Terriers should be banned. \n\nBetter?", "Shhh! That's a secret!", "And they always have a studded collar because other dogs are randomly biting their necks", "Watch the documentary, it clearly defines what a pitbull is at the start.", "You lost all credibility on being a good dog owner when you said she doesn’t need a leash on outside the house. \n\nAlso you sound psychotic.", "Read this as if the scientists escaped and ended up living as bush rats.", "Thank you - the recent news article makes sense as to why this is being talked about so much.\n\nI would think the statistics speak for themselves, they are very damning. I felt defensive for pit bulls initially, but it’s pretty clear that they are dangerous once I did some research. \n\nWhile I don’t believe that killing them all is right or realistic (as some comments are suggesting lol), I think making the breed illegal in the US is important. What do you think is the best course of action?", "Thats a reactive solution, not a proactive one.", "Fuck em. They should be banned in the US. Y'all pitbull lovers are some of the strangest motherfuckers on the internet btw.", "Yeah, it was actually more insane than that from what I recall. my memory of him telling it is a bit fussy though. I just texted my cousin (his son) to get the details.", "Ok just because you don’t consider it training doesn’t mean it isn’t a fact. \n\nAnyone who had been in a dog training class and payed attention knows this. \n\nAnyone who has been to a dog park knows this and also knows some dogs flat out do not like other dogs or types of dogs. \n\nYou say a lot but it feels like don’t actually have a lot of knowledge", "Time to sort by controversial…", "You're right, that Burmese mountain dog could tear a kids arm clean off.", "I watched the video and I don't feel all that informed nor do I feel the video was unbiased. I would have liked to hear from more experts on dog behaviour. Why does it spend so much time with a surgeon? The video spends some time highlighting that rescue dogs are a problem. Right, I agree with that... But then the first step to fixing the problem is cleaning up the rescue process, not banning any one breed. It seems like The Fifth Estate started with the thesis that pit bulls should be banned, finds out that rescue animals are a huge problem, and continues with the original thesis anyway. \n\nMastiff breeds are much larger than pit bull breeds-- 3x the size or more-- and if aggression is encouraged in them from a young age, their capacity to do damage is much higher. If you don't get your dog from a reputable breeder, you really don't know what kind of animal you're going to end up with. Any rescue, even a puppy, could be a dog that was intended for fighting, attacking, guarding, etc. Pit bulls are over represented in those roles and so there's a much higher chance that even a puppy is a dog that wasn't aggressive enough to be sold into one of those roles, but was still encouraged to be aggressive during their stay with the original breeder. Do you see the problem? \n\nPersonally, if I was to get a rescue dog, it wouldn't be large, regardless of breed, because there's no assurance that the dog never had aggression encouraged.", "The article states she had kidney failure and then had her arms amputated.", "“Leave my cane corso out of this”", "Those statistics in the article posted are from medical reported bites.", "It tells you all you need to know about how dangerous the breed is. Scary stuff all around.", "Mhmm sure you are.", "1. \"Pitbulls\" as labeled by all of those studies are a group of 4-5 breeds. While every other breed is alone.\n2. Small dogs will be counted in your first stat, the % of dogs, but no chance of being considered part of the second, % of attacks. Since small dogs cant do enough damage and can easily be handled. Also I am pretty sure that 7% number is wrong. Estimates are at 20-25%. \n3. Pitbulls definitely over index towards more attacks.\n4. Pitbulls also over index to lower income and denser population areas. Whre dog care is more subpar and opportunites for confrontation are higher.\n\nThese 4 combine for the stats you see. Yes a pitbull on average is more aggressive than comparably sized dogs. There are a lot of bull breeds who have had generations sepersting them from agressive traits as well. So a lot are incredibly docile.\n\nThe correct course of action is hefty fines for unsafe dog attacks, sterilization for dogs at sign of aggression. \n\nOr you could listen the the loonies and just ban and mirder the dogs. Whatever floats your boat.", "People are not dogs.", "Lol. Knowing the specific breeds means you are more knowledgeable than most here. But you still don't know what you are talking about.", "/r/BanPitBulls \n \njust leaving this here", "Me too... Viva México! 😩", "I don't think the existence of intelligence in humans, or of any level of sentience in any creature, in anyway prove that you can breed for intelligence. Just that it's happened. But to compare hundreds of millions of years of evolutionary processes, essentially turning the sterile inorganic mass of the earth into the massive and diverse biomass, of which intelligent animals are a cohesive part, to any kind of imposed breeding program is fallacious and a very shaky premise to start with.", "So far not a single person has said pit bull. It's either \"any dog but a pit bull\" or generic complaining about the fact that hypothetical scenarios exist. \n\nSeeing as bitching and moaning is not a valid answer to the question, so far the data is supporting the 100% assertion.", "I don't think anybody is arguing to \"kill them all\" but many places want breed specific legislation that would see pitbull sales and ownership discontinued in their region. \n\nYou would still be able to keep your pitbull but you need to get it spayed or neutered and couldn't get more pit bulls in the future.", "Or you’re taking up the slack of animals who were slated to be euthanized and blunting the market for new dogs. As long as there are dogs without homes we shouldn’t be making new dogs.", "the implication? you mean the fact.", "A pitbull mix bit my dog so hard on the ear, while playing, it pierced his ear and caused a fuck load of bleeding. When I confronted the owner, he just shrugged, didn't seem to give a shit and took his dog home like nothing happened.\n\nNo other type of dog will lose control that quickly or do that kind of damage. And the owner....like it seemed to be just a normal occurrence to him.", "You ignored the fact that I said in the beginning. The dog has not shown aggression in a few years. It could be in part that he now has a healthy home, or because he is never put in a situation where he can become aggressive. But nonetheless, that is completely and entirely assumptions on your part so I’m not really gonna address it further.\n\nThere are many breeds of dogs that are *known* to be capable of hurting people. That doesn’t mean people are assholes for owning them. That’s a moot point.\n\nIf you *genuinely* think it’s selfishness and not compassion, you are either a cold hearted individual, or are possibly confused on what selfishness really means. Kinda like labeling people as bad people because they do things or own things you don’t like.\n\nHave a good day!", "Yes and no, nature vs nurture is way stronger in animals. you can get the perfect breed dog but if you reward any kind of aggression, the pup will certainly grow to be a killer machine every time. Humans are more complex so it doesnt work as much but can still play a part...", "Also forgot the group that says \" you can't judge any dog by its breed, but also Chihuahuas are all little shits\"", "Reputable breeder? I’d be worried about inbreeding a bit from that reading. To me it reads as something may be wrong with your dog.\n\nStaffordshire Terriers are strong headed, but reasonably easy to to train. They do require stimulation tho, but they respond well to training.", "I completely agree with this!", "But all evidence indicates the bans don't help and are very expensive. Dog fighting is a definite contributer. But again, bans don't really impact dog fighting, they weren't operating within the law anyway and even if they did opt for a legal breed they cab breed in the characteristics they want for dog fighting pretty quickly.\n\nBanning cropping and docking might better help with the dog fighting issue. As would forms of dog licensing but licensing is also EXTREMELY difficult to enforce and expensive.", "I have a pug/rottweiler", "Let us agree to disagree. Given we have a choice to have less dangerous dogs in our homes, given that we have bred (genetics) these dogs to be aggressive it is, in your words , insane for people to pursue this breed. It is entitled and is another indicator of our stupidity. I hope your dogs are well behaved and that you have a great Christmas and long prosperous life.", "What dummy gets a vicious fighting dog and just overlooks it biting him/her? That things gonna snap and fuck you up one day, even the best behaved/trained ones snap and kill forget one already biting you", ">mixed with other dogs like beagles and chihuahuas to make their snouts longer\n\nThis is the first I've heard of this. This is excellent news.\nHow long has this been going on?", "I think the American veterinary medicine association is a reliable source for the exact opposite conclusion. Their study determined that pit bull type dog breeds don’t have the strongest bite as measured by PSI. Many other large breeds have stronger and potentially more deadly bites. The belief that pit bull type dogs have more dangerous bites is a myth.\n\nOwners of large breed dogs, including pit bulls, have a responsibility to keep their dogs controlled and trained. But the idea that pit bull type dogs are more dangerous than German Shepard or Rottweilers or other large dogs is false. People actually still believe the myths that pit bulls have a magical jaw that won’t let go and is stronger than any other dog. This is scientifically and medically false.", "Shit dogs for shit people", "MUH PIBBLES WAH MUH PIBBIEWIBBES NOT MY NANNY DOGO NOO DON'T BRING UP STATSTICS STOOPPP!! LOOK AT THE FLOWER CROWN!!", "I haven't taken a leash with her on a walk in years, and not once have I needed it. If I felt I did, then I'd bring it, but I don't. She runs freely when I tell her she's free, and she stays glued to my side when I tell her to heel. A leash serves no purpose here.", "I like Pittbulls, just because one is bad doesn’t mean they’re all bad. Raise your dogs right\n\nAnd I’m not gonna take an old lady saying “she’s never done that before” as proof for raising a dog right", "Listen, I'm only saying what I read on the article.", "I appreciate that. You too bud.", "They both do lol. Like I said as a small kid I got very messed up from a tiny beagle.", "I think the issue is just with well meaning foster groups in no kill shelters, and the problem is breed agnostic. My wife and I foster dogs, and occasionally will have very problematic animals placed with us. Each time that has happened, the foster service volunteers downplay or lie about the dogs' issues. We got a blind dog once that bit a kid before it was ever placed with us, was extremely fearful and tried to bite me multiple times despite following all of the proper steps for interacting with a blind dog. We provided an extensive write up that the dog was likely unadoptable, and frankly fearful and miserable, and they took the dog back and had him posted back up to foster without any of that information a few days later. He had been placed out to foster many many times. Meanwhile, adoptable dogs are in the shelter getting sick due to overcrowding, just because the foster groups never want to put a problematic dog down.", "I own a 30lbs pit and can confirm that she does have a very strong jaw. To illustrate I can pick her up by a tug of war rope and swing her in circles like a hammer throw and she can hold on forever.\n\nAll dogs can bite, but the damage that can be done by pits is so much higher than most breeds which is a reason why statistically they show up higher than others breeds.\n\nMy issue with this all is that the blanketed generalizations and media hysteria has an uncomfortable overlap with much of the 1980s and 1990s generalizations and media hysteria over war on drugs, gangs, and young men of color.\n\nIf you look at the cities and states that had these bans, many don’t exactly have a wonderful track record when it comes to race and policing. Coincidence? Not so much.\n\nFear sells and fear gets votes, but I ask and encourage all who are so fearful of pit bulls to search as to why they fear them. What personal, first-hand experience have they had with pits and consider who the owner was of the animal.\n\nMy pit is a rescue that was awfully beaten by her owner and there was a ton of trauma I had to work through with her. She exhibited signs of aggression when she was got into fight/flight mental space initially when I got her, but through training and therapy, like with humans, she has healed.", "Why can’t we just kill off *all* large dog breeds and be done with this? No more horror stories, no more concerns with genetic issues, no more Pit Bull vs Lab vs Retriever vs unexpected half-wolf stories. No more maulings. No more “she/he was good and then out of nowhere…”?\n\nJust end every single large and medium-sized dog breed on the planet. Put them all down and let the lines go extinct. Keep the small dogs because they’re not a physical threat, and be done with this bs.", "I do. I think that pretty much happens. I also think that culture/laws/societal norms have some influence, too. An example would be the Roman Empire. I think there was much more selection for psychopathy as it became a more and more dog-eat-dog environment.", "Pitbullinfo.org?\n\n\nHey man have you ever heard of the time cube. I found some great sources on it\n\nTimecube.com", "It is about pitbulls. But they're trying to make the case for banning the breed to protect people from dog attacks. But banning the breed doesn't protect people and that's been repeatedly evidenced. I'm not trying to 'gotcha' you. I'm trying to explain that the problem isn't going to be solved by banning breeds. Breeds are arbitrary. You can take any non banned breeds and breed the same characteristics back into your animal within a very short period of time. It's exactly how people get around the dangerous dogs act banned breed list.\n\nDid you know german shepherd's have a higher bite pressure than an APBT?\n\nWhich country are you referring to?", "This is the thing that gets me. Of course aggression is potentially breedable because we fucking bred it out of wolves and shit in order to make lapdogs.", "I think the best thing you could do if you want to avoid banning the breed entirely is start an aggressive program to ramp *up* kill shelters for any pitbulls that show *any* aggressive tendencies and help to breed all aggression out of the breed.\n\nThat doesn't sound nice, but it is the harsh reality we need to make the breed into something that is acceptable to be raised by your typical north American family.\n\nInstead these lobby groups are doing the exact opposite, pushing no kill policies rescuing aggressive dogs, and pushing the dogs that are a product of these policies into families homes under false advertising.", "That doesn't mean she had her arms amputated *because* of kidney failure. She had her arms amputated because the dog mangled them to the point there was nothing they could do; her kidneys were also failing at the same time though", "When is that day suppose to come? The I’ve had him for years now, and he is on the tail end of his life. He can only eat soft foods now, and has hip issues due to a multitude of health problems, but I should still expect that he will still overpower me and kill me?\n\nI mean I get that historically pits have been more aggressive than other breeds, but this is just ridiculous lmao", "I don't need to step-in and insult you again, you're doing a fine enough job on your own.", "That's the response I'd expect from a pitbull owner. Typical.", "They’re probably running their own little puppy mill.", "Oh, a guy called this yesterday", "And?", "As the owner of a chihuahua/dachshund mix, I can assure you that other dog breeds don’t default to “I fucking love everyone.” Some breeds are friendlier than others but the idea that every non-pit breed behaves like a golden retriever is ridiculous.", "Word to anyone reading this: its much easier to just block insufferable people like the person I'm responding to then to engage their craziness.", "Have a good day!", "but where is the money to be made by doing this? like do the “pit bull lobbyists” get a cut of dog food sales or some shit?", "I was restating the common anti-pit-bull rhetoric you see on this site (i.e., they're bred to do violence), not expressing it as my own opinion.", "The mother-of-two had spent a week in the hospital trying to recover from her extensive injuries before she was pronounced dead on Thursday, her family said.\nShe suffered kidney failure and had both her arms amputated.\n\n[Article ](https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/mum-has-arms-ripped-off-dies-stopping-pit-bull-from-attacking-4yearold-son/news-story/181a697bc1a8cad876ac9aaeb4da0915)", "I mean, I am vaccinated and own a pit bull.", "Are you saying that humans can be different too? Like some races being more agressive?", "Sigfried and Roy has super sweet tigers. Until they didnt. There is no reason to risk having them around", "And you’re an idiot and selfish to others for not doing so. I don’t k ow your dog. I don’t know that it wont show aggression towards me if I’m jogging past you and him. You don’t know if something can send your dog to run at another dog or person. And the fact that you don’t show respect to others in public by not having a way to physically restrain them makes you a selfish prick that I hope gets slapped with a ticket very soon.", "i do love that you state this breed has no utility, as if dogs are bred to be free labor and not pets 95% of the time. what’s the utility of a dachshund? a long noodle boy with legs every bit of 6 inches long. they serve no purpose besides being a companion. that metric is ludicrously pointless. i guess hamsters should die, cats, mice, rats, birds, and any other creature that isn’t a german shepherd the cops bred to protect their scaredy asses or get people in trouble for a little weed.", "Eh, not a great equivalency because pit bulls as a breed were created specifically for aggression and fighting. Maybe a really good owner could suppress that nature, but why not just breed dogs that don’t have that history to begin with?\n\nLike I keep betta fish (another domestic breed created for fighting) and the idea of someone telling me that they don’t have an unusually aggressive nature because of that is just laughable.", "At least 4x so far in these very comments.\n\nUsually they're smart enough to be vague about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rm7f8y/documentary_on_pit_bull_lobbyists_how_they_push/hpl3dm4?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3", "I was bitten by a large dog while playing with them. It was an accident. The dog got a little too excited and chomped down on my hand while trying to bite the toy we were playing with. One tooth punctured my palm, but I was otherwise unhurt. I had to go to the doctor to make sure there was no need for stitches and to avoid possible infection. These are the kinds of things that are \"medical reported bites\" that will increase as the population of dogs increases. Any study using this statistic over more serious injuries to show that pit bulls are fine is intentionally misrepresenting the data.", "A bit off topic, the American right does not fetishize Norway. It's one of the poster children for European socialism", "Miss you big man", "And that would be an amazing thing, regardless of pit bulls.", "oh so if pit bulls were mauling people to death BUT they could perform special tricks and tasks for us we’d get over it? that point is so dumb i can’t 😂😂", "Look how effective it is, though. People are so incredibly gullible and stupid. This is what is destroying the planet... Not a specific breed of dog, but a specific type of ignorant, stupid, self-assured human.", "Not from the US and did not realise how many adults died from dog attacks over there. I had always assumed that most fatal attacks involved children but reading that list gave me chills - so many people just going about their day and then getting attacked by gangs of dogs.", "People always say “oh I’ve seen more chihuahuas attack people than a pit” yessss but the attack from a chihuahua won’t leave you pissing blood from your thigh begging for medical help!! Your child might live another day even!", "Have your opinion on the nature vs nurture debate all you want, but pit bulls being more dangerous than other breeds is basically inarguable. From 2005 to 2017, [pit bulls made up 65% of fatal dog bites](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-multi-year-fatality-report-2005-2017.php).", "That is not how it works tho.", "But reddit told me they were nothing more than misunderstood angels.", "My first dog was a chocolate lab - she was absolutely psychotic, lol. Think Marley and Me… but worse. Neurotic as hell. She was extremely food driven (counter surfed, got into garbages, etc) never ran out of energy, and was so intensely focused on chasing all animals (deer, birds) on our acreage that she ran away from home for a week in the middle of winter chasing a deer - we tracked her and she had crossed a highway twice! She had zero recall and would pull your arms out of their joints on the leash. It was definitely a combination of genetics and a frankly bad environment for a puppy… We were a family of 6 with 4 kids, each of us had different expectations of that poor dog. No consistency. This dog would bark every time she was in a vehicle. And would eat literally anything that would fit into her mouth. We got bit so badly she drew blood as a puppy many, many times. This dog was A LOT.\n\nAs an adult, I was like fuck at least I know I won’t make the mistakes our family made with my own dog. I got a bulldog, and he was (and is) practically the dictionary definition of a perfect dog. He practically slept through his puppyhood, has never shit in the house in the 8 years I’ve had him, never destroyed anything, you can set your Christmas dinner next to him on the couch and he wouldn’t dream of touching it, has never jumped, rarely ever barks, is happy to entertain himself/sleep, etc. I did a good job implementing positive habits and just not letting him develop any bad habits in the first place, but he was an unbelievably easy puppy to raise. \n\nPersonally I’ll never get another lab, but I do realize our chocolate likely wasn’t the typical example of the breed - although I have heard chocolate have a bit of a rep, lol. My bulldog probably isn’t typical either. I think I vibe with bully personality more than a retriever, but that’s okay. Maybe you are the opposite?", "It is statistically proven that pitbulls are the most dangerous dog breed, followed by german shepherds. You rarely hear about golden retriever hurting someone.", "Are most breeders actually qualified to breed dogs to make them better? Honestly, I think only medical professionals or scientists would have the anatomical / animal knowledge to breed dogs to improve their lineage.", "Because the narrative that “pit bull type dogs” were bred for fighting/hurting is a fake narrative that lacks any historical support. There was a long standing myth that the English bred pit bulls to fight bears, but historians haven’t found any proof of that. If it were true, there would be records of bear fights. \n\nThe group of “pit bull” breeds were selected for dog fights in more recent times, along with German Shepherd and Rottweiler breeds, long after the several breeds in the pit bull class developed their distinctive traits.\n\nAussie shepherds (great breed by the way) were indeed bred for a set of traits that they inherited, and the historical record clearly supports that.", "So something that is designed for something specific should never be used for anything but it’s original purpose because it’s too powerful and dangerous. Roger that.\n\nLet’s get rid of high performance sports cars and guns while we’re at it. Let’s not expect people to have more control or restraint over these potentially dangerous things, let’s just ban them outright for safety.\n\nBefore you regale me with the difference between an inanimate object and an animal, I’ll remind you that a properly cared-for and maintained animal is as dangerous as a gun in a safe. It’s always up to the owner to make sure these things are safe. Always.\n\nWhat’s that I hear? Not everyone is that responsible? Sounds like we’ve looped back around to the main cause of the issue.", "How do you go about doing this if “pit bull” isn’t even a real breed and there is little consensus as to what a bully breed is?", "> they’re not inherently bad\n\nSome of them are. It's literally in their genes. I understand the argument that the owners are often at fault for making them what they are. But anyone who denies their breeding was intentionally for aggression and powerful bites in a fight is either ignorant or a liar.", "You could argue that having pitbulls in proximity of children makes someone irresponsible by default.", ">Raise your dogs right\n\nI love how many people will claim this. Only to then have their dog attack someone else's and suddenly they are right into the “she’s never done that before” mode of the people they formerly criticised.", "I agree with regulating pit bull ownership but saying that being careful about introducing other dogs to each other being a reason that something is wrong with the breed is plain nonsense. You should always proceed with caution introducing two dogs regardless of breed. I’ve had Dalmatians get aggressive with my dog when being introduced, does this mean something is wrong with Dalmatians?", "I know you're being sarcastic but there are morons here that don't understand the difference between a domesticated animal and wild animal and will take this seriously.", "“Pit bull” is not a breed. The American Pit Bull Terrier is one of 5 breeds that people widely refer to as pit bulls. This is why dogs referred to as pit bulls vary so much in both size and temperament. These dogs can absolutely be very dangerous, they have very powerful jaws and attacks will almost always result in the worst possible injuries compared to other dog attacks. I love my American Staffordshire, but I do not believe these dogs should be as widely owned as they are. They need to be owned by only the most experienced and disciplined dog owners who have lots of experience with how to handle behavior and training and the ability to recognize when a dog is dangerous to people and other animals. For example, my father owned a Staffordshire for many years and loved him dearly, and the day his first child was brought home my father made the incredibly difficult decision to euthanized his dog, because he knew that dog and understood that he had the potential to hurt his child. In the same way you don’t want just anybody walking around on the street with a potentially dangerous weapon, I don’t want just anybody owning these potentially dangerous dogs.", "Normalize behavioral euthanasia and don’t shame people who have to let dogs go because they’re broken.", "HE *IS* THE PARTY ANIMAL!!!!", "You asked me to evidence the number, i did. 1292km² spending $250k on something that isn't working is a lot. The legislation isn't working. The ban isn't helping and is proving near impossible to enforce despite that expenditure.\n\n[This is JUST about the kenneling cost alone -- there are other costs too but heres your citation for that.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/devil-dogs-cost-police-millions-2260818.html)", "So why haven’t you corrected and pointed out the ignorance of the person I initially responded to? It’s more than twice ignorant.\n\nI’ll happily point out your stupid hypocrisy in cherry picking the questions you want to answer to fit your idiotic agenda.\n\nThe real stupidity I’m demonstrating is bothering to have a conversation with blind hate.", "One of the pictures I was shown of the father/mother of my Rottweiler was of them both laying on their backs kind of leaning against a wall, mine started doing that as a puppy and did it until his dying day(literally). I thought it was just a cute little thing he did but then I recalled that picture and it kind of blew my mind how something like that could be \"inherited\" .", "Also fucked that police took the dogs and were like \"Yo, these dogs killed your mom, you want us to kill them back for you?\" And he was like \"Nah, I love those little guys, I'll take them back.", "I... What?", "Yeah, I’d agree it’s not a total equivalency, I’m sure there’s some amount of excess aggression that is down to breed, but I’d bet it’s pretty similar dynamic. \n\nIt’s not like training dogs not to do things that they were bred to do is uncommon in the dog world. I have a “herding” dog who nipped a lot to get people to change direction as a pup, but we trained her not to do that anymore and she doesn’t. I won’t speculate as to what the “nature vs. nurture” percentage is for any breed, I’m no expert, I’m just pointing out that a lot of those types of statistics can be pretty misleading.", "so by this argument we should also ban german shepherds as they too are bred to hurt. they killed more people than any other dog last year.", "Because some old lady who can’t control their dog shouldn’t own a pitbull and that’s not even just because it’s a pitbull. I would tell them not to get any big dog that they can’t control. I currently have 5 big dogs. Two of which were abused and beaten as pups and were complete and utter assholes when I got them but guess what? I taught them, fed them, and controlled them and they’ve never laid a paw on anyone or anything (except for a bird or two)", "Because the statistics show dog bites are on the rise... its right there in the article. Medically reported dog bites have risen since the summation of the ban.", "Breeding sales. Make the breed and dog more appealing to families and you can make more profit off the breeding of these animals.", "They definitely attract shit owners, many of them just breed these dogs with questionable background for agression so they can have a mean dog. It leads to very bad things. These people should be held responsible. Btw they do that to many breeds (like central asian shepherds, caucaisan shepherds).", "Listen to your wording there... \"More dangerous than not.\" That's not what this comment section is about.\n\nThis comment section is in a full \"Fuck all pitbulls\" frenzy. They might as well hand out tiki torches at this point. Maybe they can assemble a stupid march and create stupid, misspelled signs about all the \"facts\" they dig up that support their narrative while ignoring any and all objective evidence that contradicts their shrinking worldview.\n\nI really dislike people sometimes, and I'm a freaking humanist.", "Because pit bulls are the problem.\n\nBut great attempt with the concern trolling combined with appealing to extremes. 👍", "I am in a similar situation as the original commenter. I have a pit, I love him, but he needs extra care. He's never off leash without a fence and introductions with new people and dogs are handled with extreme caution. \n\nTo answer your question, by accident. We adopted my dog and didn't know he was a pit. The adoption agency listed him as a Australian cattle dog, jack Russell mix. Turns out he's a pit, well to be precise 40% \"pit\" breeds, 10% chow, 10% golden, 10% beagle etc.... \n\nI have been triggered in the past by people saying pit owners are the worst. That they are morons and shitty people. I ended up with my pit because I wanted to save a cute little puppies life and its been one of the most fulfilling experiences of my life. Does that make me a shitty person? I don't think this story is uncommon.", "Of course it can. The argument has never been that genetics don't exist. The argument, for me at least, has been that forcefully hunting down and killing every last member of a breed, including taking them away from their families, regardless of their individual temperament and history, is wrong. \n\nAnd so many anti-pit bull persons tout that very strategy. They want every last member of the breed dead regardless of other impact. And half the time they can't tell the difference between a pit, a bull mastiff, and a cocker spaniel. \n\nFor myself I will continue to state that not every dog in this breed is dangerous, just as every doberman or rottweiler isn't dangerous. And yet back in the 80s and 90s dobies were the \"devil dogs\" who were \"bred purely to attack people\" and \"should be wiped out\". Now you see them all the time, and no one worries about them.\n\nWhy is that? It's because animals raised by responsible breeders, whose parents were raised by responsible breeders, who go to responsible owners, are treated well, and are NOT trained to be attack animals will...surprise...generally be docile. This is regardless of genetics. German Shepherds are bred for aggression too...there's a reason their breed is often called \"police dog\" after all. \n\nYes, there will be outliers, as there will for any breed. But there's a reason why we hear about Pits so much. They are being bred in larger numbers than ever before, and they are specifically being bred for aggression, and brought into low income, high-crime areas where they are used as guard dogs.\n\nThe solution is to go after bad breeders, irresponsible owners, and let the population of the breed dwindle. And then some other breed will be the new \"murder dog\".", "Yup. But unlicensed breeding, especially in cities, leads to a TON of pit bulls specifically. Lots of folks will happily breed pits ragged to score a quick buck selling cute little puppies. Rinse and repeat.", "No, you're right. I worded that way wrong. \n\nObviously the reason she lost her arms was due the dogs bites.", "Honestly I was more afraid of my cat then my dog. Dogs give you so many signs of their intention or mood but no not cats. Most cats look the same no matter their mood! Scary buggers sometimes", "They are the breed with the highest number of injuries and deaths. Reflect on your character, caping for such an evil breed of animal", "Complete bullshit.", "\"It's the owner not the breed\" is the free space. That's always the #1 thing out of anyone's mouth. As if one breed so massively disproportionately attracts bad owners. There are tons of shitty owners of all breeds, yet I don't see many goldens ripping apart toddlers", "Let me tell you about Gall.\n\nGall is a wiener dog that is permanently muzzled whenever outside because of her tendancy to attack other dogs constantly. The owner is fantastic and has done what he can to socialize her properly. She is just a dog that doesn't want to be socialized.\n\nYou haven't had enough experience with dogs if you think breed determines demeanor.", "why is this conversation never had about german shepherds? they’re also bred to hurt people. they killed more people last year than any other breed. they too would then have this same problem, as they clearly do given the higher statistic.", "I think you should be careful about introducing a dog to new dogs and people regardless of breed or past habits. It's common sense.", "\"Life has become so much more relaxed since those things are gone.\" \n\nThis is so hilarious... Were there pitbulls just running around everywhere? I live where like 5 neighbors have pitbulls around me, and they literally never play any part in my life. I have zero anxiety about them...", "Yes, the american right does fetishize norway, they both do.", "Let me start this off by saying I personally like pit bulls as a breed so long as they’re calm and well trained. I’ve known some very lovely pit bulls and they can be wonderful pets. On the flip side however, I’ve also known some badly behaved and potentially dangerous pit bulls that had to be re-homed. \n\nI think the issue with pit bulls is two-fold: 1. They have the physical capacity for extreme violence and 2. they were bred through many generations for aggression. Neither of these two qualities completely disqualify them as pets, but they absolutely necessitate greater caution and a higher bar for training.\n\nStarting with the first issue, think about some crowd favorite dog breeds: corgis, pugs, border collies, shiba inus, dalmatians, french bull dogs... can any of these pets kill a human? Do they have the physical capacity to tear someone limb from limb? No. They clearly are not capable of such an act. They’re not big enough or strong enough and if they tried to, any able bodied adult could stop them. Even larger, athletic dog breeds, like golden retrievers or labradors or huskies - which could certainly bite or hurt a person - would have a very hard time killing someone. \n\nPit bulls on the other hand are built like tanks. They’re bite strength is incredible and if they are in attack mode, not much can stop them. I have a friend who has a very lovely pit bull. She’s almost always super sweet and calm, but he and I had a conversation once where we were discussing the dangers of pit bulls. He asked me, “If my dog ever went crazy and attacked me, what would I do?” I thought out loud, maybe he could punch her in the head. If she was biting and wouldn’t let go, maybe he could try to choke her to make her release her bite. He explained to me that these are not viable options. A pit bulls head is massive. Their skull is huge. You’d sooner break your hand than hurt the dog by punching it. Furthermore, their necks are literally thicker than their heads. Pure muscle. You’d struggle to even get your hands around it, let alone be strong enough to choke it out. Lastly pit bulls are highly resistant to pain. It doesn’t really slow them down much at all. Why is that? It’s because they were bred for attack, which leads to the second issue...\n\nPit bulls were bred for aggression. It’s just a fact. Border collies were bred to herd sheep. Terriers were bred to find and kill rats. Pit bulls were bred to attack and potentially kill humans and other pit bulls. Even today, many of the pit bull puppies born today are being bred to either serve as guard dogs in dangerous neighborhoods or meant to fight and die in illegal dog fighting rings. Is this the their fault, the pit bulls? No, of course not, they’re being victimized by the cruelty of humans. But that doesn’t change the reality that they’re potentially very dangerous. Aggression - like intelligence, or loyalty, or any other desired behavior - can be bred into dogs, and pit hulls have that in them. Anyone who tells you this is a myth because their particular pit bull is sweet is completely deluding themselves and pushing a dangerous lie. \n\nSo... is a pit bull a bad dog. Not necessarily. Like I said at the start, I like pit bulls. I like any dog that’s sweet and friendly and well trained and isn’t a threat to the community. But the fact of the matter is that pit bulls require more training, behavioral intervention at an earlier age, and a generally higher level of diligence and caution than other dogs. No one should be killed by their pet (or their neighbor’s pet) because the dog’s owner falsely believes a pit bull is like any other dog. They’re not. The bar is higher and more caution is needed. They don’t belong in every home or every community. \n\nIf anyone else reading this is a big advocate for pit bulls, I implore you not to spread the false notion that pit bulls being dangerous is a “myth.” It’s a myth that ALL pit bulls are dangerous or that pit bulls can’t be a good pet in the right situation. But if you blindly advocate for them and ignore the potential dangers they pose without advising appropriate caution, then you are peddling in dangerous misinformation that will continue to cost lives.", "The fact that you're ONLY being met with deflection instead of \"YES I WOULD LET MY TODDLER ROAM FREE IN THE PITBULL YARD, YOU FREAK\" is super telling in of itself.", "I \\_do\\_ know my dog. I call her she comes, every time, with no fail for years. The purpose of a leash is not to physically restrain your pet, but to guide it. If you knew anything about dogs, you'd know that.\n\nA ticket? I'm not living in the land of the free. Where I live, the law states that your dog must be under control, which she always is. Your fear, insecurity and arrogance perfectly sums up the problems i've mentioned above.\n\nI write openly and preach respect. You respond by attacking and openly displaying your ignorance and insecurities. Perhaps instead of participating in dog regulation your time would be better spent in therapy.", "This is an excellent comment, it's a shame there's such a good chance it'll be down-voted by the idiots in this thread.\n\nPeople are being manipulated here, and it's truly sad how effective it is.", "Eff that. Labrador Retrievers are a worse breed than Pit Bulls for attacks. \n\nhttps://chicagoinjurycenter.com/common-breeds\n\nAnd that’s with a 3 second google search excluding all the anti-pit sites. Kill off all the large and medium dog breeds—period. Let them go extinct. Solve the problem.", "It feels like watching a fight while some of us sit around sipping tea and polishing our monocles watching the others throw down.", "One of which wasn't even his. \n\nI love my dog, and there is quite a bit I would do for him. Including putting the tie of my shoe through another dogs neck if it attacked him... but if he fucking killed someone! \n\nNot that he's the size to do so, but still. He's getting put down.", "More than half of America hates \"those Communist countries\" in Northern Europe, and those same people typically hate any restrictions on \"their freedom\" (see also: mask and vaccine mandates.) I think you will find that a lot of the American right does not idolize or fetishize Norway.", "Right, but one is worse. Pits are terriers and terriers shake when they bite. The beagle couldn’t clamp and shake you, the pit can. Given the choice, you’d put your kid with the dog that doesn’t clamp and shake. It’s the difference between mauling and killing.", ">“Pit bull” is not a breed.\n\nWatch the documentary, they explain this early on in detail.", "They just spend 10% of the time planning it", "They have plenty of use. They are catch dogs, so they help with hunting and rounding up livestock, and they can be trained for police work.", "> but lots of them develop horrible blood blisters\n\nWeird how Labs and Weimaraners and a host of other long-eared-short-haired breeds manage to avoid these \"horrible blood blisters\".\n\n>There is [no scientific evidence that if you clip a Pitbull’s ears, it helps with their hearing or provides protection against infections.](https://www.dogloversdigest.com/pitbull-ear-cropping/) But unfortunately, some still believe it does.", "I got bit by a nice old basset hound dude put a hole in my hand. I'm now wary of any dog that is over like 75 pounds don't give a crap what breed it is.", "No offense huh?\n\nI corrected my earlier comment, my wording was completely wrong and off. But you keep pretending that dog ripped both of her arms off I'll be living in reality. ✌", "Lol, these are the \"facts\" everyone keeps talking about when they say all pits should be euthanized. The average IQ in this thread is threatening the single digits.", "Story time: I personally love all dogs, regardless of breed. The only time I’ve met a dog that I KNEW could kill me, it was a pitbull. \n\nI was 22 working in retail at the time, we hired a guy who was in his 50s and nice enough (we will call him Mike), lived around the corner from our store. He got to telling us about how he was involved in a large dog fighting ring in his past, he bred and sold fighting pit bulls. Obviously this is disgusting and rightfully illegal. Mike had spent time in prison for criminal activity associated with the dog fighting, money laundering. He told us that their dogs would sell for 5-15k USD and wagers on the fights ranged anywhere from 25-100k. According to him he no longer worked within the ring but he had contacts that used to purchase a home protection dog. Mike asked myself and another male coworker if we would like to come over and see it one day after work. Being young and curious we obliged. He had given us for warning that his dog was a tool, that it was male aggressive, and extremely territorial. \n\nAccording to Mike we had to let the dog associate to us, and determine if we would be allowed to be around him. This involved feeding him and gauging his reaction. Mike brings the dog out on a chain, not a leash, a chain. The pit is about two foot tall and around 140 pounds of muscle. It has the most comedically large spiked choke collar I’ve ever seen and it honestly appeared to be homemade. Believe me when I tell you that it was an intimidating creature to even be in a room with. \n\nMike hands my coworker and I each a graham cracker to feed the dog, tells to let him take it out of our hands and not to react. I go first, I outstretch my hand and the dog immediately lunges and grabs it, licks my fingers a bit in the process. I didn’t react at all, not because I was brave or trying to follow Mikes instructions, but because the dog was so much quicker than I anticipated. \n\nJimmy, my coworker goes next, he is understandably nervous at this point. He drops the cracker in the dogs mouth and pulls a away quickly. The dog immediately postures aggressively and Mike tells Jimmy that he needs to leave. Needless to say he left. I hung around and pet the dog for a few minutes and it was surreal, knowing that even as a fully able adult man this animal could kill me on a whim. \n\nI’ve met plenty of other lovely pit bulls, but I will never forget that one.", "I just took a quick look at some of the news stories. The first one says they didn't know what kind of dog it was, just saying \"It was about knee height, white hair fluffy, it’s face looked kind of like a collie, a sheep dog type breed”\n\nThat discription can pretty much anything, probably some kind of Belgian Shepherd mix.\n\nLater the story changed to it being a Chelti-Corgi mix. I think what happened is the family was tired of people asking why they had a dangerous dog, so they just started saying the least dangerous combo they can think of.", "Right? The logical hoops these people jump through are ridiculous.", "Oh yeah, next your going to tell me how many chihuahua's bite eh?\n\nThe difference is those breeds aren't leaving your child's face de-gloved in the span of a split second.\n\nLabrador Retrievers are the most popular breed in America, how many people are they killing and severely wounding compared to the less popular Pit?", "I was just about to write the same thing. I grew up in Papua New Guinea. We adopted a mut which was mostly blue heeler (Aussie Blue or something in the USA). There are not really any herds of anything in PNG because it's tropical. We moved back to the UK when she was seven and took our dogs with us. One of the first walks we took them on there was a public paddock which had a couple of cows. She just bolted and started herding them. She had never seen cows in her life.", "Careless breeding, being locked up constantly, no socialization leads to disaster with these dogs. If ppl doing this were held responsible then there would be no problem with pit bulls. Sadly too many ppl get dogs from backyards breeders, lock them up for most of their life, do not socialize them, do not walk them, dogs like that are just dangerous regardless of breed.", "I don't know. Just something the akc recommends I think. I was looking at buying a dog at one point and read it.", "It's cause they look ridiculous and have hair that is impossible to manage in the mornings or on humid days.", "Love my pit, wouldn't trade him for the world. No point in defending it, everyone going to disagree one way or another. But to anyone who owns a pit that's been nothing but amazing, I think we can agree that the reports of bred aggression are very overblown. The only aggressive pets* I've ever encountered were from abusive owners.", "Are hamsters and Dachshunds ripping kids’ arms off?", "Heres a problem nobody talks about: When Pit Bulls bite, they never let go. Their bite is impossible to unlatch because of how their jaws are physically built and that's why they do the most damage when they do attack.\n\nThere is nothing about the owner or training that makes Pit bulls like this. It is 100% genetics.", "Oh, I know, I'm talking about people like the guy you're responding to.", "Most dogs that are large enough to cause severe damage and are aggressive should be euthanized, not just pit bulls. The Fifth Estate missed that and you're missing it now.", "I don’t care. If we kill off pits, we kill all of the large dogs. Solve the problem, hoss, instead of bitching about pits", "I support some common sense rules, we should do our best to restrict access to mentally unsound people. They aren't always identified so easily, but there is evidence to suggest pitbulls are disproportionately dangerous. I think the intended purpose of the tool is irrelevant, as it doesn't preclude people from using cars as weapons despite their purpose.", "you pointed out their “utility” and defended not calling the utility of other animals into account since they don’t “maul people.” so by your logic here, if they HAD utility then we might have a reason to try to help these animals. you’re the dumb dumb calling up the utility of a species of fucking pet i mean come on this is extra stupid.", "That is one ingredient of a recipe for disaster.", "Oh yeah, keep on with the concern trolling and appeal to extremes.", "No one is forced to get a dog except maybe blind people. \n\nIn this scenario, you could always just get another breed if you can't afford the licence.", "Cars have other postive functions besides strictly harming people though.", "\"For the sake of this exercise you must send your child in to play in one of those yards\"", "they don’t have any utility tho, and apparently that’s a very important metric to consider.", "Show me where more german shepard killed people than pitbulls. Go through this page showing pictures of every dog that killed someone in 2019 and tell me if you spot a trend.\n\nhttps://blog.dogsbite.org/2020/01/2019-fatal-dog-attack-breed-identification-photographs.html", "At least family has sense of humor.", "i didn’t think of that angle honestly but you’re right", "Don't give people ideas, imagine a pack of hungry abused pitbulls unleashed on a primary school.", "I have a pit, and I hate seeing the cropped ears thing too. I avoid people with cropped ear pitbulls too. I get that some people adopt dogs who already has cropped ears, but I’d rather err on the side of staying away.\n\nI don’t really like socializing with other people at the dog park, so I’m fine with people fearfully avoiding my slow, 13 year old, half blind, uncropped, three-legged pitbull missing most of her teeth. I prefer to keep to myself. I’m only here to exercise my dog a bit. Even when she was younger and had four legs, my dog wasn’t interested in the other dogs or pet at the park. We’re fine keeping to ourselves. Now that she’s a tripod senior dog, I am very amused by the occasional fearful reaction that people have at the sight of my dog. She can’t run, she can’t bite or chew, and a small rodent could knock her over. But people still see her and make comments about how dangerous my dog must be…", "Go through this page showing pictures of every dog that killed someone in 2019 and tell me if you spot a trend.\n\nhttps://blog.dogsbite.org/2020/01/2019-fatal-dog-attack-breed-identification-photographs.html", "Responsible shelters (aka well funded ones) like the outfit here in the richest part of the country (Pennisula, SF Bay Area) require training for dogs that have behavioral issues. That is training the *owners* on how to train/interact with their dogs. Whether the issue is reactivity (aka anxiety) or just terrible leash manners (aka leash pulling). They probably don’t see a lot of the worst dogs as dominant aggressive dogs aren’t exactly voluminous here on the Pennisula. And aren’t that frequently seen in the population in the first place.\n\nThey also put down dogs that are dominant aggressive who they can’t get fostered by people that know what they are doing to socialize the dogs. As well as putting down dogs with serious health issues that are an extraordinarily high burden.\n\nThey have plenty of dogs of all breeds/backgrounds that aren’t appropriate for households with children adopted to appropriate households, plenty of dogs that aren’t appropriate for first time dog adopters adopted to appropriate households. They also have plenty of pit bulls and bull terrier mixes coming through their doors… adopted to appropriate households.\n\nMoney allows places to assess each dog and adopter individually… breeders take it to an extreme and you’ll see breeders (of all breeds) where the *adopter* has to go through some serious vetting before even adopting a dog.", "That's not an analogy...", "Maybe you don't live in a city or you don't feel it if you live in an American car bubble, but yes sketchy dudes with giant pitbulls were running around everywhere.", "cool! i said last year. google “german shepherd attack statistics” and let me know what you find. good luck!", "Hunting for food isn't a positive action? Protecting yourself or others lives?", "> They are from Switzerland not Burma.\n \nThey did not make a typo when they called it Bernese instead of Burmese. It's Bernese as in Bern the capital of Switzerland", "You say most dogs *could* but the reality is other breeds are not doing that in near the numbers pitbulls are as they are simply less agressive and easier to manage breeds. \n\nThe labrador retriever has been the most popular dog breed in North America for decades. Very few incidents with them that reach the severity of the less popular Pit bull.\n\nAlso there is a reason Pit Bulls are the #1 choice in the fight ring, they are capable of delivering the most damage at the fastest rate, they have been bred to do so.", "I've got the sweetest pitty in the whole world. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Is the best dog that has ever existed, period. People who want mean guard dogs get mean guard dogs. That's not the pittys fault, ever.", "I'm stealing this for next time.", "Working class dogs for working class people. Eat shit snotbag.", "Ofcourse i would pick the yard with the dog species whose is not the top 1 for kills in humans and other dog pets\n\nTldr i would pick the golden retreiver is that too hard to say you pit nutters?\n\nIts crazy to see the mental gymnastic everyone is doing it ks a very simple question", "Go through this page showing pictures of every dog that killed someone in 2019 and tell me if you spot a trend.\n\nhttps://blog.dogsbite.org/2020/01/2019-fatal-dog-attack-breed-identification-photographs.html", "Go through this page showing pictures of every dog that killed someone in 2019 and tell me if you spot a trend.\n\nhttps://blog.dogsbite.org/2020/01/2019-fatal-dog-attack-breed-identification-photographs.html", "The wheel weaves as the wheel wills.", "Malcolm Gladwell had a chapter in his book Outliers where he covered a correlation with people who descended from herding communities were more likely to be aggressive or commit murder than farmers. The idea that herders had honor killing as a requirement to get by. It has been a while since I read it, but it was actually a troubling discovery.\n\nYour actions are heavily impacted by the amount of stress hormones. We are not all born with equal tolerances to negative stimuli.", "That's a good reason to stop breeding these dogs. The type of person who wants these dogs is often also the type of person who won't train them to the extent you need to for safety. These morons will then shift to the next most lethal/misunderstood breed, but those breeds are statistically less likely to snap in the same way that pit bulls do.\n\nI have a pit bull rescuer in my neighbouhood with three dogs right now and she's under no illusions that her dogs pose no risk to other dogs or kids. She has them all in muzzles and on short leashes for their walks, and she warns people and other dog owners away for their protection. Good for her, but what's the point in that? What's the fun in owning an animal you can't 100% trust not to bite, maim and kill? All the other dogs in my neighbourhood - and there are probably around 70 in around 100 homes - can run around and pose no threat to anybody, there have been zero incidents, but this poor lady has to keep her rescues on a short leash and tell people to stay away.", "Pibble", "Lol, okay.", "Not locked yet? I'm shocked.", "OP didn't mention anything about bite strength. They said simply that Pitts are more dangerous and based on the percentage of dog attacks and dog KILLINGS that occur annually in the US, and how many of those are due to Pitts, there's not much room to disagree. Pitts are just more dangerous.", "It's a cost/benefit analysis. If pit bulls had a special utility, I'd be more open to arguments about not discontinuing the breed. My obvious overarching point is that there is no objective reason to keep the breed going, and tons of objective reasons to stop breeding them.", "Any large or medium size breed can kill, hoss. You’re just going for the gore to shock people into adopting your bias against pits. But the fundamental problem you’re facing is that all large and medium dog breeds can and do kill people. You’re just focusing on one—I’m calling your bullshit out by telling you the real solution is to end all large and medium dog breeds. \nBesides, if you got your wish and pits were ended tomorrow, the crusade you lead would turn on labs and Rottweilers next. And end up with my proposal anyway if all large and medium breeds dead. \n\nSo I’m going to call you out on your hypocrisy and hate for pits. Failing that, hopefully I’ve accelerated your misanthropy and distrust of humanity so that eventually you give up on everyone and end up a bitter jaded wreck with no hope left in life. As that would be Justice for all the hate you’ve kicked up. Enjoy my concern trolling 😘", "hard to be sure lmao", "Oh, so you can read it’s mind? You can detect every single thing going on in its head when you’re out in public at all times? Has every person you’ve ever encountered in public when your dog is off the lease predisposed to the knowledge that your dog obeys every single command? Do you not consider the fact that dogs commonly lose hearing as they get older and verbal commands are not always heard? \n\nYou’re mentality on not needing a leash for your dog in public is as logical as someone saying they shouldn’t be arrested for a DUI because they drive better when drunk.", "Is the intent to reduce harm or to reduce harm caused by one breed? Because right now I'm not clear on what your intent is. Is it OK for a dog to bite half a kid's face off as long as the kid doesn't die? I'll remind you that the surgeon in the video said that half of the bites he does surgery on come from breeds other than pit bulls.", "Half the documentary is about dogs with aggressive histories (aka dogs that WEREN'T RAISED NICE) being adopted out to unsuspecting families.", "You dont need a handgun or an AR to hunt.\n\nI myself have a rifle and hunt.\n\nThe homicides and harm that are caused by guns overwhelm the good \"protection\" aspects of a gun.\n\nSome people might get injuries from seatbelts, but it's still much safer overall to wear them", "How do you know you are part of a vulnerable family? \n\nif your father bought a pitbull he is probably close to being retarded, thats pretty vulnerable.", "The problem is that one time when something unplanned happens, he gets off leash, gets out of a fenced yard, stranger tries to pet him, etc.\n\nYours could be just fine in these scenarios but your breed is more prone to bad things happening. So why get this breed out of the hundreds available? Seems higher risk with little additional reward.", "Worked at a reasonably high volume animal shelter for many years, and I would never feel comfortable with a bully breed around a small child, regardless of it's pedigree. \n\nOf course a good majority of the dogs who come to shelters as strays aren't from responsible breeders, but even the muttier bullies can be great dogs - for an experienced adult household/owner who's willing to put in the oodles of time required to train. From my experience, pit bulls in particular can go from sweetly licking your hand, tail wagging, to charging and snarling, like that. Without anything obvious having set them off.\n\nDon't get me wrong, they can be fantastic pets in every way, but just a .001% chance that there is an aggressive trait buried somewhere in their DNA from generations back, even, is too high a chance to take with a child.", "I think if all pit bulls disappeared, ppl would pick a new breed and make it the new pit bull...", "You should never leave any dog alone with a kid.", "@NorCalAthlete\n\nWhy dont you give counter arguments against their claims instead of attacking the person.\n\n\nIf adolf hitler said the earth was round would that make it untrue?\n\nYes adolf hitler would still be mustache man bad. But the claim still holds true.\n\n\nReally pathetic i have to explains elementary knowledge about discussions and arguments", "\"the Pit-bull was responsible for the highest percentage of reported bites across all the studies followed by mixed breed and then German Shepherds\"\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States", "I'm of the mind that the whole discussion of innate or learned/trained aggression is moot - it should be unacceptable/illegal to have a dog of any breed that's capable of physically overcoming an adult human.\n\nI know that there are many, many people who love their bigger dogs - but IMO it's not reasonable to impose the risks of attacks on people who have nothing to do with this dog ownership.", "If the last 2 years have taught us anything, its that most American adults have not mentally developed past the age of 15", "Could you cite the data on population numbers of dogs in Toronto? Because Toronto's dog ownership and licensing statistics are refreshed each year instead of being archived. So I can't find that data but you're making the claim that the population increase is in line with the increase in bites.\n\nAnd I'm not using any study or statistic to say serious injuries aren't an issue but according to statistics shared IN THIS VIDEO the rate of death on encountering a pitbull or pitbull cross is 0.00006%. They gave no information on serious injury. That's like... people saying vaccinations should be banned because of the extremely slim chance of having an adverse reaction. It's kinda.... silly and reactionary to fearmongering in the press.", ">Any large or medium size breed can kill\n\nYet they are not doing so in near the numbers we are seeing pit bulls kill at.\n\nHow many people were killed by labs in the last decade, the most popular breed in America? How many were killed by pit bulls?", "The only difference between an angry pit bull and an angry chihuahua is that you can punt the chihuahua.", "It’s sounds like you have a deeper issue than just people hating pit bulls.", "Oh, so you’re minimizing and dismissing those victims then? They’re not as important as victims of pits?", "I'm 100% with you on this.", "yea bc this isn’t aww, any comment that isn’t “awww cute nanny pibble velvet hippo” will get deleted there", "That level of stupidity didn't occur to me, but you're right it's possible.", "especially in the water. **SO CUTE!**", "https://imgur.com/ilCrLcc", ">the problem is, banning pitbulls doesn't work\n\nSeems to work perfectly fine where I live and in the surrounding countries that have bans.", "No matter the argument. It'll always make me wonder: if pit bulls were bred by humans and have no ecological niche outside of domestication. But are constantly singled out because of their propensity to be trained for aggression or grow up on the streets, making them a crap shoot at best for companionship. Then why haven't we cracked down on dog breeding? \n\nWhy is it that a person can just breed these things like a factory out of their Milwaukee home ad nauseum? How is it that we created a breed, let it proliferate to a ridiculous degree and have zero recourse other than culling the animals. If they aren't meant to be around, taper down on breeding. Stop allowing humans to bring animals into this world for profit and nothing else, and stop bitching that an animal that's the result of human intervention is causing these problems on its own. You wouldn't bitch about a bear mauling your ass, but because the average person doesn't understand inherited behaviors and even less understand how to actually care for a dog in general, people start acting like there's a pitbull conspiracy to hurt people. \n\nThey never existed in the wild. This is our own fault and the best solution morons can come up with is to cull them from the earth. This is right up humanities alley lmao", "That link you posted says 0.00115% chance, which is 10,0000 times more likely than the number you posted.", "Plus it’s gotta be harder if the victim won’t cooperate.", "I, a norwegian person living in norway, have talked to multiple people both left and right americans, that love norway.", "So clearly the answer is to just breed a pitbull that's the size of a chihuahua. You get your pitbull, nobody else gets hurt.", "Imagine you are buying a toy for your kid, but the salesman say \"There is a 1 in 10.000 chance that the ball will explode and kill your kid\" Would you still buy it? No thanks.", "[Let's play bingo!](https://imgur.com/ilCrLcc)", "I’m responding to the question about breeding. Your link doesn’t provide proof of why/how the several pitbull breeds were historically bred.\n\nSeparately, get better sources. Dogsbite.org is a bullshit organization that’s been repeatedly caught faking their stats. They claimed one man’s death was caused by a dog bite, when in fact he died of alcohol poisoning. When criticized, dogsbite refused to correct themselves. They’ve also been caught double-counting deaths and injuries. No one involved in that organization has veterinary medical training, or professional credentials. Whenever that gets pointed out, their org takes an anti-science stance and claims the veterinarians and scientists and learned authorities are all lying.", "Pits can’t be service dogs and their owners are usually too dumb to hold a job down", "Source lol it's more like 20 percent", "I think it's a conscience issue. Like, many people wouldn't want to buy from a breeder. I understand that sentiment but I think both have pros and cons. So for those people who would never buy a dog from a breeder, the selection they are looking at includes a LOT of pit bull type dogs. So basically, they either rule out bull types and reduce their options by like 40-50%, or they become more understanding and forgiving about the breed, and start to rationalize all this. Because if they didn't, that would mean that breeders have a place in the world, or that they are part of the reason why pitbulls are on death row.\n\nI love dogs and I had a dog from a shelter, and I met a lot of people whose shelter dogs were similar, all the trauma came out at unexpected times. It might just be that they have anxiety, or they can also maul another dog because something triggered them. You just never know, because you weren't there when they were traumatized, and you don't know in what way they are dealing with their trauma, just like us, humans deal with our trauma differently. Dogs are incredibly sensitive animals.\n\nMy dog was a sweetheart. They told me he was aggressive with other males so I should watch out. He was never aggressive towards anyone. The only time he bit someone was when he was being put down. He was so sick and old, and yet he knew something was up and he tried to bite the vet. I think he was amazingly tolerant but that's a very individual thing.\n\nAdopting a dog with god knows what kind of trauma _and_ with a DNA for aggression, you might have a ticking bomb in your hands. Maybe he will never snap, maybe he will snap at the worst time.\n\nI respect all those who are responsible pit owners. They are aware of what their dog can do, and they protect everyone, including the dog. I think that's an amazing thing to do but it's a lot of work. To always be aware of your surroundings and be in touch with your dog's feelings, and keep an eye out. If someone can do that, that really is such a good thing. I couldn't. And I wouldn't want to.", "Research shows that Pitbulls do not have a stronger jaw than say a German Shepherd.", "I'm not saying everyone should be clones, but there are genetic diseases of all sorts that humanity could just not have.", "A lot of people that don’t own dogs here. Or definitely don’t deal with rescues or dogs with behavioral issues. I suppose mass euthanasia makes sense in their minds, have every breeder licensed/bonded where every dog costs 5 figures+ to adopt. Keeps the riff raff from owning dogs. I’d imagine it’d would work. Just need to all gather together and figure out what exactly is an OK genetic stock. Maybe DNA test every dog who’s ever done a level 3/4 bite and ban any stock with similar DNA?", "Yeah. I’m particularly fond of the ones breed to have gentle mouths. They’re always so tender with my cock and his hens. They can even help gather up the eggs without breaking them!", "Fear campaigns like these that misrepresent a risk play to EXACTLY what frightened people want to hear. They appeal to emotion, often distort or selectively report information and its only human. Look at how successful antivaxxer campaigns are, look at the way the news made people fear the threat of the middle east leading to completely pointless wars over exaggerated claims of big scary WMDs.\n\nIt's understandable and all we can do is try to give the correct information, context and compassion.", "This isnt an answer. I can give you an answer if youd like, or do you only listen to information you want to agree with?", ">Look at these pictures! Don't listen to veterinary organisations, your emotions say more than science ever could!\n\nWhy bother spamming this trash?", "Does no one understand how thought exercises work anymore?", "I’ve owned a neutered, male pit bull for a few years. Here are my takeaways:\n\n• The breed is absolutely bred to be fighters. This comes with increased aggressive tendencies, no question about it. \n\n• All pit bulls should be neutered or spayed, end of discussion. Breeding should be made illegal. \n\n• There are many pit bulls out there in need of loving homes. These pits should go to experienced dog owners with the skills and patience to raise them properly. I got my pit around 2 years old. He was still aggressive and unneutered, but we were able to train just about all of the aggression out of him. The trick is constant safe and supervised socialization with well-behaved dogs, TONS of exercise, mellow and relaxed owners, and allowing time to take out aggression on dog toys. Ultimately you have to know and form a strong bond with your dog and let it be known that any sign of aggression towards other humans or animals is completely unacceptable. Developing this communication is not easy and takes experience. \n\n• Pit bull ownership should be treated like gun ownership. Only allowing people with the proper training and experience to handle them will make society much safer. \n\n• Some pit bulls should probably be put down. Dogs who haven’t been fixed their whole lives and have spent most of their time in abusive situations are going to be dangerous, no matter how much training you put into them. \n\n• If you rescue a pit early in their life and teach them love, discipline, and supervise them closely, they can be one of the biggest blessings in your life. These are some of the smartest dogs I’ve ever worked with. The bond you develop with them is almost human. They did not choose to exist, we bred them to have the reputation that they did. Let’s put an end to their breeding and be responsible with the ones who were brought into this life through our own desire for aggression and greed.", "I don't have dog numbers specifically, but the human population of Toronto has increased from 4 million to 6 million in the last 20 years, and the number of dog bites increased by a similar percentage, leading to the reasonable assumption that with more people come more dogs, and with more dogs come more opportunities for bites.", "\"Injuries from Pitbull's and mixed breed dogs were both more frequent and more severe.\"\n\nhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165587618305950\n\nHere's a list of all the fatal dog attacks in the US in the past few years and this year.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States", "These are they type of people whose babies end up getting mauled to death because \"he's never been aggressive before\"\nFucking idiots.", "Depends on how you define discrimination. If you use it to understand and cure Alzheimer's, are you discriminating against Alzheimer's patients by eliminating them? How about Down's syndrome, or gene caused blindness?", "It really isn't lmao", "I was attacked by a dog, German Shephard, when I was a kid, but own a large dog now.\n\nThe dog that attacked me was a *problem dog* for a long time before it attacked me. If my dog showed aggression towards people, I would probably put it down. It's not worth the risk.", "I take it you don't go to dog parks then", "I have seen aggressive poodles. Very aggressive ones that have had to be put down for attacking people. No dog is 100% safe no dog is 100% dangerous.", "Sorta. The US gives both parties some discretion, which further varies by state and county.\n\nBasically, for a serious enough offense, the DA can always step in and charge anyway. But in less serious cases, prosecution can be influenced by whether the victim wants it.", "From the AVMA: [Owners of pit bull-type dogs deal with a strong breed stigma, however **controlled studies have not identified this breed group as disproportionately dangerous.** The pit bull type is particularly ambiguous as a \"breed\" encompassing a range of pedigree breeds, informal types and appearances that cannot be reliably identified. Visual determination of dog breed is known to not always be reliable. And witnesses may be predisposed to assume that a vicious dog is of this type. It should also be considered that the incidence of pit bull-type dogs' involvement in severe and fatal attacks may represent high prevalence in neighborhoods that present high risk to the young children who are the most common victim of severe or fatal attacks. And as owners of stigmatized breeds are more likely to have involvement in criminal and/or violent acts46—breed correlations may have the owner's behavior as the underlying causal factor.](https://www.avma.org/resources-tools/literature-reviews/dog-bite-risk-and-prevention-role-breed)", "Yea, this dude prolly lives in the burbs where everyone has a fenced in yard. Those aren't the pit owners we're taking about. It's the owners like my neighbors. They have two pits that have to have heavy metal chokers on them at all times so they don't run amok. I hold my breathe everytime they're walking their dogs just waiting for one of them to finally bust free. Just takes a moment of carelessness and some one could literally be killed by these brutes. But they look really tough and ferocious and that's exactly what the owner wants.", "\"Injuries from Pitbull's and mixed breed dogs were both more frequent and more severe.\"\n\nhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165587618305950\n\nHere's a list of all the fatal dog attacks in the US in the past few years and this year.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States", "And what do you think those \"mixed breeds\" are compiled of?\nThey aren't fucking springer spaniels.", "Locked like a pit bull's jaws on a baby's leg.", "That sounds like some huge cope to justify why it's fine for you to kill another dog so you can have one with a pedigree, lmao.", "If a never trained pointer dog points is the owner responsible for that?\n\nIf a never trained shepard dog sees sheeps and herd them IS THE OWNER RESPONSOBLE FOR THAT?\n\nOR ARE THEY BRED FOR THAT SINGLE PURPOSE\n\nNow stay with me okay\n\nIf a pitbull mauls the face of child or another pets IS THE OWBER RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT?\n\nANSWER ME :\n\nWhy did CEASAR MILLANS PITBULL killed queen latifahs dog?\n\nhttps://floridanewstimes.com/cesar-millans-pitbull-allegedly-killed-queen-latifahs-dog-and-masked-it/339265/\n\nIf the dog whisper cannot do it what can a simple owner do with the best intention and training \n\nThese are no nanny dogs sound like a like from the devil himself", "Someone link that interview with a pitbull owner who just rambled of these bingo square defenses after his pitbull attacked someone. He even said \"it's the owner not the dog\", literally saying it's his fault. Imagine. That's the kinda fucking brainpower these people have.", "Nevermind, your previous posts show you're from the UK.\n\nThe dangerous dogs acts banned breeds did not reduce dog bites or attacks. It was extremel6 expensive and costs the tax payer millions to enforce each year. So sadly no... it does not work here.\n\nhttps://www.bva.co.uk/news-and-blog/blog-article/did-dangerous-dogs-really-just-disappear-overnight-the-dangerous-dogs-act-30-years-on/", "Now if only we could breed in pit bull owners the desire to get their dogs fixed. There is never a shortage of rescue pit bulls in humane centers.", "wow 2019 wasn’t last year but nice try!", "If I could simply wish them out of existence I would, but that's not likely to come about through legislation. Why disallow responsible owners when reckless people won't give a fuck and obtain them illegally. Not sure what your point about seatbelts is, but cars definitely pollute the entire planet.", "If by early on and in detail you mean more than half way through the documentary and very briefly, sure", "Getting my comment in before the post gets locked.", "Not the pitbull yard. Fuck that. Pitbulls are the only dogs I've ever had problems with in my life.\n\nThen every time I say this, someone snaps back saying \"German Shepherds bite people more often than pitbulls do.\" Those numbers come from *RECORDED* bite incidents. People who own German Shepherds give a shit about how their dogs act out in public and at home. Pitbull owners don't give a shit and blame *everyone else but the breed*.", "You are under the burden of proof to prove your point. There are pages and pages of sources showing that pitbulls disproportionately attack and kill people. I can keep providing more if you'd like.", "Oh look, common sense and facts in a pit bull thread!", "Read up on the 'no kill shelter' movement and some of the tragedies that have resulted. To tdlr it: The no kill movement has become a pretty powerful political group. If places want to keep there 'no kill' status (and funding) they sometimes do unethical things like hide bite histories (sometimes multiple) and shuffle dogs around between shelters and non profits. The end result is someone taking home 'the sweetest dog ever' only to have it latch onto their face when they fart too loud. There have been multiple times this has happened in Los Angeles alone. And these aren't 'bad owners', they are responsible and loving owners who were unfortunate enough to believe what the shelter said. So, yes, in a sense the pit apologists are quite villainous.", "Okay, Malamute. I was just guesstimating. The point is that there are many examples of much worse breeds in terms of injury risk and temperament - but that such breeds are acceptable because they are relatively rare, expensive pets. (Which will hopefully be owned by more experienced people who are conscious of the unique challenges inherent in owning such pets.)\n\nPit bulls might have been acceptable as a niche dog when Teddy Roosevelt owned one, but as a free-to-adopt family dog, they are the canine equivalent of lawn darts.", "Actually, there's a theory that dogs may have self-domesticated.\n\nThe idea is that early humans left really good scraps to scavenge, but most wolves feared us. Those with less fear and aggression towards humans were able to get closer to our camps, eventually carving out a niche as basically pure scavengers. Humans came to benefit from having these wolves around the camp as guards.\n\nNot that this goes against your point, I just think it's interesting and wanted to share.", "Yeah the confirmation bias in these people's stats is disgusting. And regardless any argument they make will always be met with. \"Why'd we allow them to be bred to begin with?\" There is no wild pitbull, only the product of breeding. Once again humans make their own problems and then bitch about the product instead of the source.\n\n\"Chinese steel is garbage\"\n\" The Chinese utilize slave labor and have poor quality control\"\nDo we bitch at the steel until it stops sucking? Or do you find a better source?\n\nPitbulls have been know for decades to be popular in shitty urban environments and treated like shit, and when the result is something that's poorly domesticated we blame the animal with a brain equitable to a two year old? How much maliciousness do people attribute to a two year old? \n\nImagine if infants had the bite strength and crude survival adaptations of a pitbull and caused as many deaths/injuries. Would we just purge the world of Lil tikes or take steps to mitigate our role in the matter? \n\nWe're grown adults at the top of our food chain bitching about whether an animal incapable of diplomacy is too inherently wild, as if it's gods fault. I just wanna scream \"motherfucker we are the problem!\"", "> The UK spends millions on it to not much effect.\n\nHmm weird how the facts state otherwise.", "How about we stop breeding dogs, period. We've screwed up so many breeds", "People own them for years and get ate up all the same. “He loved that dog!” Yours might be too old now but that changes nothing really, they’re volatile as hell and keeping one that’s biting you drawing blood is downright ignorant, you got lucky unlike many others.", "Bring up your healthcare system, covid restrictions, abortion rights, wellfare system or prison system, and see how fast many Americans demonize your country.", "It’s always up to the owner to make sure these things are safe. Always.\n\nWhy did CEASAR MILLANS PITBULL killed queen latifahs dog?\n\nhttps://floridanewstimes.com/cesar-millans-pitbull-allegedly-killed-queen-latifahs-dog-and-masked-it/339265/\n\nIf the dog whisper cannot do it what can a simple owner do with the best intention and training.\n\nThe person you are talking with is in good faith but you do not havr the wits to see it with all the facts about the breed why still keep them around people. Would you want everyone to have the right to keep a tiger as a pet? Would you still lay the burden on the owner when that tiger mauls a kids head off.", "Anecdotal, but I've had two pure pitbulls in my life. One was energetic but a sweetheart, the other was mild mannered and a sweetheart. Neither were trained properly so it wasn't excessive training that made them lovable, and both were built like tanks. I'm not counting the two mixes that I've had that were also sweet hearts, but I personally don't get the hate towards the breed.", "Because it's it's unnecessary risk.\n\nThe only argument for a civilian to have hand guns or an AR are:\n\nA) to hurt people\n\nB) I like guns\n\nThe risk to people isn't worth that.", "I do, and have never had a problem. Not once. \n\nI am not saying that it doesn't happen, as obviously it does. It was just that German dude's wording that cracked me up. So fucking dramatic, hahah!", "Usually you'll see a lot of pitbull posts instantly removed because the Pro-Pitbull lobby that stalks a lot of these threads start spewing a bunch of shit and mass report posts to get them removed. There are some mods of /r/news that will ban you for posting pitbull attack headlines because they support the Pro-Pitbull stance.", "People also don't like the facet that behavior passed down through a bloodline isn't indicative of the breed as a whole.\n\nYou don't like violent pitbulls. Same. I don't either, but I *do* like pitbulls in general.", "I do and they praise the good and say whatever they want to say about bad things, but both sides are the same.", "Man you should be a politician with how good you are avoiding answering the question.", "This sub is just as dumb as r/enlightenedcentrism. All I see here is 🤡. It's much like a fart made out of words.", "And I, an American living in America, have spoken to a lot of folks in the right in this country who hate how out front Norway is on social welfare. I am on the left and love what y'all are doing by the way (to add more folks to the lefties who idolize Norway above.) I grew up in a right wing household, and had to deal with my father and his friends calling anything and everything that helps people by the government \"Communist\" and therefore awful.", "The last time he drew blood was when I got him. Which as I stated was years ago. I don’t just accept the fact that he will bite me, he doesn’t and I made sure to discourage and train that out of him. That would be moronic to just keep a dog around who makes me bleed all the time. Let’s try to use rational thinking here.\n\nAnd him being potentially being volatile doesn’t mean anything. He is old, he can’t bite down hard anymore, and is very immobile. \n\nAgain, he can’t even eat normal kibble, even if he snapped and legitimately tried to kill me, he would end up killing himself before I got hurt.", "Pits are a terrible unstable breed and they need to be called what they are, dangerous.", "YES!\n> Everyone should be required to spay/neuter their pets unless they have a breeder's license. In the US alone, more than a million unwanted cats/dogs are euthanized every single year.\n\nThat poor family. The father took the the dog out to the yard and shot it because it was still trying to mutilate them more! What if he didn’t have a gun and a yard?", "Equating dog breed to human race... \n\nWHOA. Someone needs to show this lady some basic biology books and books on dogs.", "There's a guy in my local park that unleashes his pitbull outside the fenced-off part for dogs. Why? Because his dog doesn't play with other dogs. So he lets it run loose in the park where children play. Fucking genius. \n\nSame park an old lady walks here two pitbulls there every day. She has no control and they just kinda pull her around the park until she manages to get them to go home again. This lady looks like she could barely control a russell terrier.\n \nAnd this one, holy shit it sounds so incredibly stupid that I wouldn't even make it up because it just sounds fake but it's 100% true: \n \nA friend's puppy (not pitbull) got attacked by a loose pitbull. The person coming to grab the pitbull said *\"he's never bit another dog! he normally only bites people!\"* ... Apparently the dog had bitten 2 people before. Also he wasn't the owner of the pitbull, he was taking care of it while the owner was in prison.", "The father who said pitbull lovers treating it as a religion couldn't have been more on point. Their defense of these animals is beyond religion and more akin to cult.", "Uhhh don't believe everything you read on the internet! /s", "The adult still died and failed to fight off the dog. You shouldn’t get that type dog at all if you have to do the math on if you can stop it before it kills you. What’s the possible upside? What does a pitbull bring that other dogs don’t? What’s the argument for them if you have to be able to physically dominate them to save ur life randomly.", "Sometimes it's kinda funny to see the people who are able to pass the BAR. \n\nReally tells you that just about anyone can be a lawyer.", "Sure but if you ban poodles the number of dog bites in a city is going to have very little change whereas when pitbulls get banned the number of bites and the intensity of the attacks goes down. I think this is a case of 2 groups talking past each other. One going \"we reduce dog bites by banning these things and all we deprive people of is a particular breed of dog (that is entirely artificial and not natural).\" whereas the other group is more \"I've bred and raised hundreds of pitbulls in inappropriate conditions even and never had a problem\". \n\nBoth sides are right on their facts.", "I mean, stuff like addiction can be genetic, which you can argue is a personality trait.", "I had a female pit. She was the sweetest, best dog ever. My entire family grew to love her. So loyal and protective without being aggressive. She never wanted to harm anything. She just didn't like other dogs coming into our yard uninvited. Never an issue with her.\n\nI had a male after that who was a pit mix. Sweet boy, loyal to me. ONLY loyal to me. He was a bit tougher to deal with. Very territorial. I miss him because he was my buddy, but I don't miss being concerned about him around strangers.\n\nI would only get another if they were like my girl. But, since you can't guarantee it, I won't. \n\nThese dogs and be sweet, loyal, trusting, and great companions for families. \n\nOr they can tear the face off a child for no reason.\n\nI'll pass on the risk", "What?? Didn't know I could do that! Reddit game changed forever!!!!!!\nWhat's the difference btw Top and Best though? Time stamp vs upvotes?", "When people talk about 'irresponsible breeders' and 'shitty owners' Im pretty sure they are talking about people like your uncle.", "When they move dogs to other states / areas to erase the paper trail that is a HUGE red flag something shady is going on.\n\nSounds like fanatics... almost evil...\n\nReminds me of oil and beverage companies peddling their climate change and pollution agendas...", "I’ve heard the same. It makes sense. Why do all that hunting when they can just hang around with other, bigger hunters who can do all the work and don’t seem interested in hunting you? Also they make cozy fires.", "Food aggression is often caused by irresponsible breeders so I'm gonna go with no. Realistically I'd argue that there are no responsible pibble breeders. We don't need more pitbulls, not because they can't be great (the doggie love of my life was a petite pitt/boxer mix I rescued from an abusive situation), but because my heart breaks every time I look at the local humane society/SPCA pages. So many pitbulls no one will ever adopt and will eventually be euthanized. Nobody should be breeding any dog until the shelters are empty.", "Its also statistically proven that pitbulls are misattributed 60% of the time. \n\nAll of these statistics people like the throw around to damn the breed come with the asterisk that \"more that half of these cases aren't actually pitbulls.\"", "A pit bull ripped a lady’s arms off in Wisconsin. It took her a week to die. She died yesterday.", "My experience is very very diffrent and both right and the left feitishize our country to a stupid degree while failing to understand norway is neither right or left or anything at all, rather a mix of everything because thats how our political system is. We have our own problems like any country, our electricity and water prices are skyrocketing to the point everyone (except politcians they get it for free) struggle to pay their electricity bills, point being we arent some socialist or freedom utopia.", "Did you just ask for a source and then proceed to give a number without a source? Nice one.", "We'll have to agree to disagree, unfortunately I think it's a necessary risk as things are now. Your argument makes sense in a vacuum, which is why I said I would erase them from existence if I could. However, at least in the US, it's unfeasible for a number of reasons to ban those weapons entirely. I would rather try to improve our society as a whole with regards to education and economic disparities as a means of addressing violence.", "But my working dog. But my show dog. But my support dog.\n\nTime and time again it's been shown that a surprising amount of strays and surrenders can be trained for these roles. Yet people have this ridiculous notion of a supercar dog. With the best stats like a first round draft pick. They have zero conception of how many dogs bred from champions are thrown to the wind or sold at a discount for people who want to have a taste of legacy. \n\nIf people only knew how many ACDs or sprint dogs like greyhounds are left to rot or euthanized because their first owner couldn't handle them, surrendered them and then ultimately wasn't socialized well enough to be marketable for the average family. \n\nB b but the shelter.\n\nYeah the shelter is a shitty environment for any animal. Not a single person working there would tell you that's the life animals aspire to.", "It really is stupid people that own them. I have personally had many and currently have one. There is no way in hell I would let a child be unattended with one especially a stranger to my dog. Yes, every single one I have owned and currently own has been the most amazing loyal dogs ever but I know what they are and take steps to prevent it. I have had several different breeds and there is nothing like a Pitbulls love to its owner but that's where it ends. These dogs are not toys to play dress-up with your daughter. They are tough as nails, possessive as hell, protective as mothers to their kids, and strong as steel. Many owners I know are oblivious to this and play with them in fighting manners. It's so fucking stupid to reinforce aggressiveness by being hard with them. In case anyone is wondering I don't go buy them. I rescue them because my gut wrenches at the thought of what will happen to them be it killed, sent to a home with oblivious owners, sent to a home with fighting in mind, or worse end up killing someone. Yes I know it's like owning an alligator eventually I am going to get bit but if I can save a few from a shitty lifestyle or worse hurting someone else I will take that chance as long as they are around. I just can't get enough of their love and devotion to me.", "Some guns are already banned for how dangerous they are. Cars as well have regulations limiting them for public use.\n\nIrresponsible pet owners cannot be escaped, but an irresponsible pet owner with a beagle is less likely to have their negligence kill another person than an irresponsible pet owner with a pit bull. Do you refute that? I'd be very interested in seeing you try.\n\nThere is simply no escaping the fact that pit bulls are an unnecessarily dangerous breed of dog. Some people can handle them, many can't, and the simplest solution to that problem is to stop allowing pit bulls to be kept as pets.", "I mean, the golden might still hurt the kid, but only because they're too excited and knocks them over accidentally or something.", "Part of why eugenics works on domesticated animals and not on humans is because it takes 9 months for a human baby to gestate and another... let's say 18 years to not be creepy.... before that human can reproduce for the next generation. A dog can be a grandmother at like 4 years old.", "Nah, breed should be banned, simple as that.\n\nThere are many breeds of dog, people can do without that one.", "Good job troll he asked a simple question yet even that you cannot do", "Wow. Had no idea! Looked up more info after watching.\n\nIn the 13-year period of January 1, 2005 to December 31, 2017, canines killed at least 433 Americans. Pit bulls contributed to 66% of these deaths.\n\nI mean... that kind of speaks for itself. They do seem to be the most aggressive breed. I'm not saying they should be banned necessarily, but people should be aware of the potential consequences of adopting this breed.", "You can tell that a lot of you don't work around large groups of dogs. Geesh.", "My sister has a Pitbull and I wont lie when I say she is the nicest and cuddly dog to the family... but that is where it stops, my sister had to give her other dog away (who was totally harmless) because her Pitbull started to attack it and one day her other dog fought back when me and my nephew were the only ones home it was something I will never forget.\n\nI had to get in between the dogs and luckily they were only focused on each other and didn't bite me, after struggling for around 10 mins I managed to get them apart and got my nephew to take the other dog inside while I tried to hold back her Pitbull who was pretty much dragging my dead weight across the floor to get back to attacking and I was covered in blood from the dogs.\n\nMy sister understands her Pitbull is vicious to other dogs and people she doesn't know so she is now an only dog and has a big garden to run and play in, my sister locks her away when people come over, but after that day where I experienced how crazy that dog can be I really fear for any outcome where her Pitbull gets loose.", "But it's a thought exercise and you have to choose one of the two options.", "Preach the word !", "Lol. I've seen poodles used as police dogs in Europe. About that soft bite. Tell that to the people I saw ripped open when the poodle was used on them.\n\n\n\nAll dogs have that capability. I have a Shiba that will rip you open if you fuck with him. Not trained to do it, natural instincts. He's a great deterrent. Also originally used as a hunting dog.\n\n\n\n\nEver treated a dachshund wrong? They will also bite the shit out of you.", "A city in my metro area had a pitbull ban for many years. The incoming mayor immediately got rid of the ban and then a pitbull mauled a child to death.", "Niche? They account for 20 percent of dogs by some figures. I would rather have a Pit type breed over an Malumutes, Akita, Chow, Rottie, and German Shepherd any day as I've yet to see a good dog in any of these breeds. If a Pit is a lawn dart a Chow or Akita is a ticking time bomb.", "You are right, it's not that difficult, because it would be pretty easy to outlaw pit bulls. \n\nMuch like it's in the public interest to put railings on ledges, regulation is necessary for safety. Nobody needs a pit bull anymore for anything. Regulate them out of existence.", "So humans are a mix of column B and column C.", "We have a little shiapoo thst took on most of the poodle. It grew up killing rabbits 2 times its size, catching birds etc. It stopped doing it I think cause it kept getting sick. But it doesn’t change that thing was the nicest dog in the world but had this inate hunting trigger. Only counteracted by its laziness.", "Unfortunately pitbulls will either go extinct or always have the possibility of aggressiveness. I believe we could breed the aggressiveness out of them much like we did and still continue to do with animals like wolves and foxes. \n\nBut there's too many breeders out there breeding pits to make that a truly viable option. And too many people still getting pits because they want aggressive dogs or using them for dog fights. \n\nI love pits and think they're beautiful dogs. And sure, the likelihood that *your* pit will attack someone might be low, it's still an exponentially higher risk than the next most dangerous breed. \n\nPlus, if a pit has a history of aggressive behavior whether it be naturally aggressive, abusive upbringing, or any combination of factors, that aggressiveness is still going to linger right under the surface to some degree. This video is a highlight of that. \n\nIf we want pits to still exist, they need to be bred exclusively in controlled environments to get rid of the aggressive behavior which would take generations to accomplish. It makes me sad because I really do love the breed.", "Ahhh yess just stating fact about a dog breed is karma farming.\n\nShould we hush the news when the next pitbull mauls a face off?\n\nSweety that will not stop the pitbulls attacking \n\nIgnorance is bliss they say", "Compare gun deaths per capita from US to Australia who started imposing stricter gun restrictions in the 90s.\n\nEasy access to guns is associated with increased gun violence. Which isn't surprising.\n\nLaws work.", "What point?", "Yep, I had a terrier that while blind and deaf managed to sniff out a family of bunnies and massacre them in my back yard.", "Cool, so what distinct factors mark a dog as specifically the breed you want banned and not just something similar?", "Did you not see the graph showing that after the ban total reported bites rose? From a peak of 05 per year before the ban to 767 after. The article doesn't answer that question. I assume you're going to respond with \"there's more dogs\" but the fact is we don't actually have data to support that because Toronto's dog licensing and population figures are refreshed each year, not archived. So if you're going to make that claim please cite your figures.", "Every time I link this sub, my inbox gets brigaded by shitbull morons. Absolutely hilarious.", "Why didn’t you press charges and have it put down?", "I’m surprised at how many people feel compelled to comment when they DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.", "Ban them and only allow licensed individuals to own them. These dogs are dangerous. Now please downvote en masse and tell me how wrong I am.", "You know the dumb apologists are going to be all over this one. In 2020, Pitbull's accounted for 72% of dog related fatalities while making up 7% of the dog population. \n\nFunny how we precrime DUI yet you can buy a dog that kills someone and you don't get punished despite being party to one of the worst crimes you can commit. It's time we start implementing strict sentencing for these incidents up to and including the death penalty for cases where the owner did nothing. \n\nIn the meantime, owning a Pitbull at least let's me know that you're dumb as hell or a piece of shit. Or both", "I think putting that kind of responsibility of pet owners would result in negligible change. See also: COVID vaccine.", "My housemates have two small pit bulls, they are the sweetest little rock-headed cuties. I love them. \n\nThat being said we should stop breeding them anyway. I don’t see headlines about golden retrievers or poodles ripping off arms and killing babies.", "I fucking love dogs. But truthfully I am a bit fearful that my neighbor got a pitbull last year and I have a 6 year old and a 6 month old. I let my daughter pet any dog that passes by with owner approval. But I wont ever let her pet that pitbull even with owner approval. Fuck that. The fact that I had to research how to stop a pitbull attack or get one to let go of something is fucking frightening. \n\nAnd that owner has kids. And is a regular middle class family with good intentions so the dog isn't raised to be aggressive. But still I worry.", "I don't necessarily agree with the person you're sparring with, but since you're struggling with the logic...\n\nObviously if something is dangerous but also provides a service, that should go into the calculation. There are other breeds that don't serve a purpose, but aren't an inherent risk to society. The point is that pitbulls are a unnecessary risk with little to no upside.\n\nIt's like cars. If they didn't serve a purpose but still caused as many deaths, they would probably be banned. Or any other dangerous item we use like bleach, knives, or charcoal. None of those things would probably be allowed if they didn't come with a benefit that outweighs the risks associated with them.", "What breeds do dog fighters use? Or do you not have dogfighting there?", "Ugh, the part in the video where the lady said \"The best dog to have around 3 rambunctious boys.\"", "A guy I went to high school years ago had his 4 yr old grandchild mauled to death by his own pit bulls. And not too long ago after on the other side of town a woman got mauled to death by her own pit bulls. \n\nWhen I found out my daughter's friend got a pit bull, i stopped her from visiting her house.", "Can confirm. When I was in South Africa and Botswana, we were allowed to get within 30 ft of a wild male lion, pet a “tame” hyena at a reservation, and drive through a pack of wild dogs, but we stayed faaaaar away from the hippos.", "\n\n>You however can not “*train* that out” only suppress and *train* the animal to control these urges which is basically what they are. \n\nHmmmmm someone looks like a dumbfuck, don't they?\n\n🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡", "B/c it's never made. It's a strawman argument pit bull owners make to designate anyone who doesn't like pit bulls a racist.", "I'm sure you have. Ironically it's a dog-whistle argument, so you may not have recognized it.", "Tigers have not been domesticated. How’s that for wits? Fucking tigers? Really? We can go the insult route if you like. I’m well equipped for that.\n\nBecause CAESAR MILLAN ISN’T SHIT. Fucking dog whisperer? Really? He obviously bit off more than he could chew, pun intended. Any more wits to share? Some animals are beyond help. Pits are just very powerful and pretty aggressive. It’s not unique to the breed.\n\nYou haven’t provided any worthwhile facts, just two really piss-poor examples.", "Depending on when it happened, the cops may not have done anything. I was bit pretty bad in the 90's, but nothing was done about the dog.", "I gota pit bull. he bites!", "Ah yes, no other dog was ever made to hunt animals", "People on Reddit talk about pit pulls how white grandparents in the 60s talk about black people", "You’re the clown dude. You said you can train aggression out of dogs.\n\nPeople like you think you can stop an animal being aggressive, you can only teach them to control it\n\nIf only someone could train the stupid out of you", "Totally different cultures, the war against guns in the US has to be won in a different way than laws. Australia is an island, illegal things make their way to the US through our borders, which I am against tightening. It would probably take a literal civil war to take Americans' guns away.", "Not just A pitbull, HER pitbull. The scary thing about pits is they will attack their own family.", "\"We have cruelly made this dog who is pure evil because their jaw is big\"", ">\"Injuries from Pitbull's and mixed breed dogs were both more frequent and more severe.\"\n\nPitbull is too imprecise, trash abstract.\n\n>Here's a list of all the fatal dog attacks in the US in the past few years and this year.\n\n~50 deaths a year, out of millions of attacks, dogs aren't very good at killing people, they're on the level of vending machines.", "Agreed. Growing up I had a German Shepherd that bit someone. I think what a lot of people misunderstand about these types of dogs is the level of discipline and obedience required to care for them. To begin with what owner will say \"yeah I could have been a better owner\" or \"yeah, I was kind of a shitty owner\". they'll always say, \"they were so sweet and wouldn't hurt a fly\". \"I trained them to listen to commands\", etc. Sure they might listen to you because A) they like you or B) They're motivated by treats. \n\nI believe if you want to own these breeds of dogs, you have to take it a step further and sort of train them as work dogs. They walk next to you or slightly behind you while on leash, during play time (where they are highly stimulated) you can recall your dog, have them be that obedient. \n\nSo the definition of a \"good\" dog owner, depends on the breed of dog you get. So maybe even having a licensing program for dog owners might mitigate this. For example, in Japan the motorcycle license depends on the size of motorcycle you can buy. And the testing is different for each license. \n\nIn my city, we already have a dog license registration as most cities I hope. Dangerous dogs have dogs of certain breeds (pitbulls or any mixes) or dogs who have bitten someone already. They have to pay much much more for the license. I think, rather than doing that, perhaps have people who want to own dangerous dogs, take and pass a course on how to handle these dogs. Because at the moment, an owner with a dangerous dog that hasn't been trained properly, may just see the fees or fines being too expensive and give it up to the shelter to adoption. Where then someone unknowing of the dogs past adopts it.", "Yes. They should be banned.", "Not some, all. Apply your zero tolerance “simplest solution” to all of them. They are not being used for their original purpose and they are too powerful and dangerous. When you accomplish that, I’ll be on board. Until then, I don’t want to go in circles with you any further.", "Lol cmon that person was making a statement about eugenics in general, and is arguing for distinction *within* populations. I don't think this is an example of what you're claiming", "Because people think dogs come out of factories. In the same thread you have people saying it’s a sign of a puppy mill to have the parents on site and not have the parents on site. \n\nThe truth is both are legit. People are just anti breeding.", "I feel so bad whenever I see one of those dogs that have been bred to have a squished in face. I used to think they were so cute but there's nothing good about an animal that's constantly struggling to breathe.", "True.\n\nBonobos are also ludicrously sexual. \nhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bonobo-sex-and-society-2006-06/", "LOL", "I don't know how many Americans you've met, but I'd advice you to meet a couple more before making such sweeping assumptions. \n\nHell, just a picture of Norway's prison cells would send most of our southerners into a tizzy. Mention universal Healthcare and they'll scream \"wellfare state!\"", "So, even if you assume that the rise in the human population correlated to the rise in dog population. that would mean in 2002 there were 4,777,000 and 605 medically reported dog bites, while in 2014 the population was 5,797,000 but 767 bites. So assuming the dog ownership rose to meet the population that still represents 0.000126 bites per person, while after the ban, 0.000128 bites per person. Which means the incidence of dog bites didn't fall as a result of the legislative ban on pitbulls. It still increased.", "I have only been bitten by one dog in my life. It was a pit bull. Do I blame the dog? No, I blame the environment the dog was raised in, and I blame myself (for getting too close to an unfamiliar dog, etc.)", "Owning a motorcycle is a lot like owning a Pit Bull. There are people who have wrecked a motorcycle and those that haven't wrecked yet. Similarly, there are people who own a Pit Bull that have attacked someone and there are people whose Pit Bull hasn't attacked someone yet.", "It can be bread to be good at attacking, but it cant be bread to always attack or be aggressive. \nPitbulls are not shown to be aggressive more than any other dog and the only reason they have this stigma is that they do more damage and cause more.shocking headlines", "Cite that.", "Apparently saying anything against this breed is akin to murder.", "Honest question: did you watch the video? In the video the babysitter was an honest to good pit bull owner. She was brainwashed by the media into believing pit bulls were a misunderstood, good breed of dogs. She, by all accounts, was a good dog owner who did everything by the book. I'd hate for someone like her to be held criminally liable b/c she was brainwashed by a bunch of celebrities. Whose only real crime was believing what she saw on TV, read online, heard from friends, was advised on by some experts, and wanted to believe in the good in animals.", "They don't have an unusually aggressive nature though. In fact, the one constant personality I've seen in every pittie I met was an overwhelming need for affection and submissive behavior. They tend to roll over on their backs and lick far more often than they attack other dogs. Just because they're bred for an activity, doesn't mean it will always show up in their behavior.", "“No don’t you see, it’s not just pitbulls, it’s pitbulls and pitbull mixes, so pitbull’s are being over represented in these charts. It’s practically a different dog entirely!”", "That they own a pit bull and feel personally attacked. Like people want to ban assault rifles even though not everyone that owns an assault rifle commits mass murder but God forbid you say pit bulls are dangerous and should be banned. \n\nI grew up in the hood and everyone wanted a pit bull so they could fuck someone else up. Purposely getting the riled up. It's terrible. Most people get a pit bull for protection then give it up for adoption.", "I don't have a side in this, but you are quoting \"A 2018 literature review with meta-analysis by breed\", and he was asking for last years data.", "Why are you commenting when you didn’t watch the video. The dogs that killed Dax where raised by the babysitter as puppies. She has multiple pics of the dogs “socializing”, cuddling, and being around other dogs.\n\nI mean, everybody has an opinion, but at least *try* to honor OP by considering the content of their post before you comment.\n\nI", "Lel I'm just here for the salt ⛏️", "Poor guy was bred for dog fighting…it’s not the size of his jaw that makes a difference. Human cruelty has no limits, and apparently, neither has stupidity.", "My sister has a Pit Bull and it's a nightmare of a dog. My sister was really into all this \"It's the environment not the breed that makes dogs aggressive\". \n\nYou have to be careful when entering her house because the dogs freaks out and growls, you can't hug my sister or my mother until the dog calms down. He hasn't bitten anyone that we know of but if he sees another dog walking down the road he loses his fucking mind. He wears a choke collar while in the yard with family and once went after another dog so badly we still had to use the wheel of a car as a fulcrum to reel him back. \n\n\nThe ad from the kennel describes him as \"Very sweet, a little shy and can be protective of his family. Good with little kids but ideally your only dog so he doesn't have to share all your love.\" Liars could have killed someone.", "Texas is a three-strike state. Dogs can bite people twice before the state has it euthanized. \n\nI didn’t press charges because I wanted to leave the incident behind me and think about it as little as possible. They agreed to pay my medical bills, and they made good. And i left it at that.", "I think you’re misreading his post. He said pit bulls would probably be fine as a niche breed. That they are not and are so common is the problem.", "And golden retrievers were bred for hunting animals? Is it impossible to stop them from doing that?", "A lot of places have laws that 'forgive' the first bite, meaning owners are responsible.", "No offense but... ✌", "It sucks you’re being downvoted by the hate mob. This is why we can’t get anything done, people don’t see just how difficult this actually is. What is a “pit” and how do you ban one? Is it a bull terrier? Staffordshire terrier? American bull dog? American staffordshire? Etc? \n\nPit bull is an umbrella term for like 8 different breeds or mixes? Do we ban all of them? Okay sure let’s do it. Now go down to the shelter and take a look, especially here in the south, and you’re gonna see vast majority “pit” mixes. Do we ban (euthanize) the mixes? How do we tell? DNA test? Eyeball it? Okay fine. How much “pit” in the mix is too much? 50%? 30%? 1%? \n\nI’m stating this not because I disagree with a ban, I don’t. I disagree that it’s as simple as the hate brigade makes it out to be. And we need to understand the complexity and create a solution that addresses it appropriately.", "you guys are talking past each other, but when I google \"german shepherd attack statistics\", I see that they have more attacks than any other breed, but all the googling I can do seems to show that pits killed more people by a large margin.", "Yeah, me too. Why are people arguing about this? Who is being hurt by pit bulls getting banned from breeding? A couple of legit breeders and a lot of underground ones will lose their side income?\n\nWho is being helped by the legislation? Most everyone on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States", "holy shit that is brutal", "I watched two of these things jump out of a window to attack my dog in community park at our apartment complex. It was the most one sided fight I have ever seen in my life. Only reason our dog wasn't killed was because he had such a thick coat and neck. And we were there and there happen to be a 2x4 near by that we could beat these fuckers off our dog. \n\nIf you own one of these and it bites someone or another dog then you deserve to be sued into abject poverty.", "I heard a tune about one who wasn’t very good at riding a unicycle across a tightrope", "For what side?", "Yeah people say hating pits is like hating black ppl because in their heart of hearts they see POCs as animals that must be cared for.", "I love pit bull threads. Sort by controversial for maximum salt and Drink every time you read any of the following.\n\n1.It’s the owner not the breed\n\n2.dog attack statistics\n\n3. Someone trying to sound way more bad ass than they actually are", "Through selective breeding, like any other animal characteristic. People have carelessly bred fighting animals with companion animals, and when you get a puppy, you may not know what you are getting.", "Possibly. Didn’t know him well. In my mind if you have an one animal with the capacity and capability to disembowel and mutilate 8 other animals of the same size and build, you’d have a hard time being responsible enough. Let alone a kennel full of them.", "Yup, with the same aggression lvl Chihuahua bite and Pitbull bite present inherently different risk.", "gone but not forgotten", "I don’t care about that stat without added context for number of attacks and the percentage of owned pit bulls that attack people.", "It's hard to discriminate against the gene causing blindness without discriminating against the person.\n\nReducing a person to their most crippling genetic condition, and judging their fitness to reproduce based on that is a tough sell. Telling a person that, despite what they may have accomplished, what trials they overcame, or how great a parent they might be that they should be sterilized due to something beyond their control seems immoral.\n\n Even if you are a amoral believer in survival of the fittest, then by definition, a blind, one armed man who manages to have/raise a child is doing something right and thus deserves to have his genes passed on.", "Why stop at dogs? /s you lunatic", "Yeah it is scary, there was a story from my neighbourhood when I was a kid and it involved one of my sisters friends.\n\nHe had just left my sister to go home and walking past some ones house their dog jumped a 6 foot fence and attacked him, by the time the owner who was in the garden managed to get around to stop his dog it was too late the dog had literally ripped the guys face off.\n\nHe didn't die but had to have extensive surgery and grafts to fix the damage, it blows my mind how it just happened so quickly and seemingly out of nowhere.", "[I Googled it!](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2020.php)\n\nSurvey says: \n\n72% of fatal dog attacks in the U.S. in 2020 were pit bulls.\n\n4% were German-Shepherds.\n\nYou're full of shit.", "I had a Chiweenie that did indeed love absolutely everyone, human or canine. He was a hit at parties, more sociable and well-behaved in groups than he was at home (he was a bit devious and stubborn when he didn't have an audience). \n\nThat said, I had numerous other Chiweenie owners ask me what I'd done to train him to be so friendly, because theirs were the opposite. I did carefully train and socialize him, but the truth is I just got lucky. He was good natured from the moment I adopted him at a year old.", "A good way to avoid even getting to this apologist bingo point is by using the phrasing \"Pit Bull type dogs\" as opposed to Pit Bulls. However, you can also just explain that \"Pit Bull\" is an umbrella term for four closely related dog breeds- the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and the American Bully. The American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier are actually so similar they can be dual registered as an AmStaff with the AKC and a APBT with the UKC. Until recently, most dog DNA tests would not even separate AmStaff from APBT due to the extreme similarities. This is also just another deflection technique- everyone knows what someone means by \"Pit Bull\" just as everyone knows what someone means by \"Golden Retriever.\" This is what \"pit bull\" means [legally](https://definitions.uslegal.com/p/pit-bull/).\nNow, because \"Pit Bull\" does refer to 4 dog breeds rather than one, Pit apologists will often cry \"well of course 4 dog breeds will kill more people!\" but keep in mind that these 4 dog breeds have killed more people than 300+ other dog breeds combined. The Pit Bull umbrella kills more people than every other group or type of dogs and more than every other dog breed combined.", "Nice.", "But when a particular breed is predisposed to certain things.....\n\nReality on reality terms, pits are just more violent in general than other dogs and as a companion are not needed since there's so many other options available.", "I have a border collie, she nips ankles. Especially to unfamiliar people. She can't help it, we can't train the behavior away, the herding instinct is truly ingrained.", "I think it's often that single, solitary occasion that harm a lot of people. \n\nAnd beyond that, when the animal *does* show signs of aggression, many owners think they can still control it.\n\nMy brother owns a dog-aggressive pit that has harmed other dogs. He thinks he is in control because it's always on a leash. He depends 100% on that leash for all the control. Should that leash fail, be dropped or not be there in the case of the dog getting free, something will die. \n\nMy point is that people think they are right to a fault. My brother is not unique.\n\nSo we can't depend on responsible owners to keep physical control over their pitbulls. They have been given the chance, and proved to not be up to the challenge. Now it's up to legislation, because people aren't responsible enough.", "I would go a step further. Not just liable, but strict scrutiny liable. It's automatically assumed that if your pitbull bites someone that you are personally liable both criminally and civilly. That assumption can be rebutted but only with clearly convincing evidence that you aren't responsible for the bite.", "[2020 data shows that 72% of fatal dog-bites in the U.S. were pit-bulls.](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2020.php)", "Papers are generally not published that fast, and it seems highly unlikely that the stats would have changed much in such a short period of time. The wikipedia page does list all the attacks by breed for 2020 though.", "Why would their breeding make them less aggressive?", "The whole point of the scenario is that you neither isn't an option. You have to choose the least worst option. Also, I trust my Golden Retriever to not attack unattended children. I would never leave my retriever alone with a child though, because I don't trust that the child wouldn't hurt my retriever.", "I know the Saint Bernard story shouldn't be funny but....", "I hope all the people in here advocating a ban on pitbulls also believes in banning guns you fucking hypocrites.", "Its a fairly low bar (puns aside it really is).", "Help me spell it:\n\nB\\_N PITBULLS", "My neighbor had a rabid pitbull that probably deserved to be put down (it went to the shelter for a week for snapping at a kid). It bit my roommate and caused scarring. I went to the backyard to reset our connection to our router, and it launched off their deck and chased me and if I wasn’t aware and able to run and jump into the bed of my truck I don’t know what I would have done. I think I was going to square up to it and just strait punt it in the face. But 99/100 dogs I wouldn’t have reacted anyways. I only knew to run because this dog was out of control. That neighbors moved but that dog was a untrained killer (or trained I dunno). But I don’t hold it against the breed too much. Seen good ones too.", "Everyone here is chastising me for getting this breed etc. but I’m willing to bet none of the people here DNA tested your puppies before getting them. \n\nHe’s a mutt. From a pound. We chose him because he said hi and played friendly when we brought our other dog to the meet and greet. Not because he was a pitbull. He didn’t look anything like a pitbull and I’m not sure how you’re supposed to guarantee the dog you’re adopting is not a pitbull.", ">Dogo argentino, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nOne of the smartest and loving dogs I've ever encountered was an Argentino Dogo. Raised by someone who studied and went on to train dogs, she also had a rottie who was very smart as well, but an asshole.\n\n>american staffordshire terrier, too agressive and considered a fighting dog.\n\nI've actually never had an issue with a staffie in all my years of working with dogs. They tend to be the less anxious, most cuddle-buggy bully breeds. Terrible bark though, sound like they ought to be on Isla Sorna behind an electrified fence.\n\nThis list just looks like the pitbull scare of the 90s hit the country hard and nobody took the time to actually discern breeds and behaviors. If it looks like a pit, then its a pit.", "Thank you for proving my point pit bulls have been domesticated to be violent towards to fight in a pit hence the name.\n\n\n\"CAESAR MILLAN ISN’T SHIT\"\nYet he has a proven trackrecord that he knows dogs. Atleast we can agree that he knows more about dogs than a regular average joe right?\n\nSo if he who knows shit cannot handle it why would we accept this ?", "There's no reason to stop letting them breed if it doesnt hurt anyone less than any other dog. Because retrievers attack more often than pitbulls, fyi", "> while we probably could breed humans in a way that affects personality\n\n100% can. Theres a reason alcohol changes the way people act. PCP highs are real.. There's countless examples of people sustaining head injuries and it completely changing their personalities. We are chemical machines and that's all there is to it.\n\n>it would be much more difficult and complex than dogs\n\nnot true at all, unless you're talking about it being difficult to find people to participate..", "I like pit bulls, they’re generally good dogs. If you raise them from puppies they’re no more likely to be aggressive than any other breed. I don’t need to “do the math” to know that a person of my size can fight off a dog like that. I just know that I can and therefore am not afraid of them. I’d rather have a dog that can fuck up a would be home intruder, than a chihuahua. I like their personality, they tend to be more fun dogs than other popular breeds that can serve as guard dogs.", "seems to me you come in with the tribal ''us vs them'' thats souring america right now.", "No, a responsible pet owner would put those aggressive dogs down.\n\nWe're not going to because we get emotionally attached. Doesn't change the fact that the *smartest* thing to do with aggressive dogs is to euthanize them.", "My dog was attacked by a pitbull randomly in a park when he was a puppy. Dog came out of nowhere through some bushes and just grabbed onto mine and tried to drown him. I got dad strength and was able to lift both dogs and separate them. Dog ran back into the woods.\n\nSince then, my dog has been dog defensive and we've had to be very careful about him being around other dogs. Now that he's older he hasn't had a fight in a long time and has mellowed out, but I'll never forget that dog charging out of the woods and just attacking mine for no reason.", "Trivia fact: Boxers were originally bred as bullbaiting dogs. But they have an innate intelligence and willingness to protect/support their \"human\" and because of those traits for a short time there were the dog of choice for Leader Dogs for the Blind. But, sadly, it eventually became clear that the \"fierce\" face of the Boxer was off-putting to folks, so eventually German Shepherds were used (but they had hip dysplasia problems) and eventually Retrievers.", "See, sterilization isn't necessary today. Gene editing could just make it so they don't pass down the broken gene and their kids and grandkids don't need to worry. Or you could avoid having children with people who share the same genetic risks.\n\nIncest being taboo is ultimately a form of eugenics, no one takes issue with that.", "You have a phobia of dogs and an inability to understand risk assessment. You need to grow up and get over that. Thinking a golden retriever and a pitbull carry the same level of risk is comically absurd.", "Ghetto dogs.", "Cue Clip in the video of a woman getting knocked down by her own pitbull so it can kill a cat.", "They already are in most US jurisdictions, it's been that way for a long time.\n\nA pet owner is usually *strictly liable* for civil claims for damages caused by a domesticated animal in their control that they know is dangerous. So an owner of a dog that knows it is dangerous is liable for any damage caused regardless of their actions or state of mind.\n\nA pet owner is also civilly liable for their own negligence when it comes to keeping any animal, whether or not they knew the animal to be dangerous. So even if the dog is not known to be dangerous, an owner may be liable for their own negligence with respect to keeping the animal, such as failing to maintain a fence, or walking their dog without a leash.\n\nA pet owner's negligence or recklessness with respect to keeping an animal may rise to the level of criminal negligence/recklessness under certain circumstances. The owner may also be in violation of other local laws/regulations with respect to keeping dogs, or pit bulls specifically. For example if someone is killed by a dog that an owner was walking off-leash, the owner could be charged with involuntary manslaughter, or if the person was especially reckless, 2nd degree murder. If a person let their dogs loose with the intent for them to maul someone, that could result in a 1st degree murder charge.\n\nAs for holding the owner of an animal directly criminally liable for damage caused by their animals, rather than holding the owner accountable for their own actions in relation to the damage, that would probably violate the constitution. That would basically amount to convicting someone who lacked a state of mind and committed no criminal act, simply for their ownership of an animal. For example, if a person kept a dog in their fenced backyard that they knew was dangerous, and the dog escaped through no fault of the owner, like someone else took the dog and released it, and the dog mauled someone, there is really no basis by which the owner could be held criminally liable for the death. But as explained above in those cases the owner could still be held strictly liable for civil claims if the dog was known to be dangerous.", "mY PItBuLL lovES KIdS! I'm sure it does. Til it sees your neighbors dog and opens it up from snout to tail, while wagging its tail. Reputable APBT breeders wont let their stock play alone. And keep them kenneled otherwise. For a reason.", "Can you point out your own, and maybe try to be better?\n\nThere is no reason you should revel I and be proud of your ignorance.", "to be fair, it is rare", "You're using your alt account to respond. Whoops!", "> but keep in mind that these 4 dog breeds have killed more people than 300+ other dog breeds combined\n\nThousands? Tens of thousands? Must be pretty high on the list of things that kill people for people to get so invested in this.", "A ton of people can't control what they say...being able to \"lawyer speak\" a bunch of preprepared sounds bites is definitely a skill. Makes you look like an inhuman retard, but it accomplishes your task :/", "The only dog that can't be raised nice is the chihuahua. Never met one that wasn't a biter. The nice thing is that they aren't very strong so they're manageable.", ">More than half of America\n\nSlow your roll, buddy. Less than 15% of America refers to the Nordic countries as \"those Communist countries\" and I'd be generous in saying if 5% of them could even locate Norway on a map.", "I had a miniature Poodle growing up. The dog would hide under bushes and stalk and catch birds. It would regularly catch mice, rats, birds, bees, and lizards. Squirrels were to agile for him to catch, though he did get close enough once to bite off a squirrel's tail.", "I'm totally fine with paying taxes that help keep shitbulls off my street.", "Bro I love pitbulls but putting traumatized, aggressive dogs with insane muscle mass into unsuspecting families is fucking evil. They’re setting everyone up to fail including the dog.", "Apparently defending the breed is akin to murder.", "It literally is politics though. The documentary is about the debate surrounding pitbull bans and other regulations.", "Jfc, is there only hyperbole here? I was responding to someone saying that all dogs other than pit bulls just want to love everyone and I share how that wasn’t the case with my dogs.\n\nNow you’re telling me to put them down because that automatically means they were vicious killers? Ffs, there’s a whole big area between those two extremes which my buddies occupied. This thread is a fucking shitshow.", "Two dogs sleep in my bed every night. I do not have a phobia lol.", "That’s so awesome. My little dude is incredibly sweet with the people he loves but he does not love everyone and can be quite bitey sometimes. I don’t allow him to be around kids out of an abundance of caution. \n\nI just found the “fucking love everyone” line so ridiculous. Have they ever met a small dog? A whole lot of them are jerks. I love them, but they’re jerks.", "Pit bulls do not constitute all dogs. You can't accept categorization of one thing while refusing it for the other. The only reason we're going \"in circles\" is because the criteria you've set and I've adhered to don't actually work for your own argument and you can't cope with that. \n\nThis isn't on me, dude. Your standards simply do not hold up under scrutiny.", "They were bred for bear and bull baiting, not killing people. In fact even dog fighting dogs are bred to be human friendly and one that bites it's handler or another handler or spectator is put down because it's bad for business", "This is BS. I’ve had pits for 19 or 20 years. They are the biggest babies ever. My first pit was terrified of our older cat, best friends with our younger cat, and once when he was at a petting zoo a Beagle puppy did that hound dog bugle and scared him so bad he jumped backwards while turning around and hid behind my mom with his tail tucked between his legs. The worst he ever did was excitedly jump and headbutt us. My current full pit loves sleeping between my moms legs and giving kisses. My pit/basset hound mix is so sweet and loving of everyone that if you open your arms he’ll try to jump into your arms. Most news reports about pit Bull attacks aren’t actually pit bulls. They may have pit somewhere in their ancestry but if you’re going to count them as a pit bull then you need to count them as all the other breeds mixed in as well. I’ve seen Rottweilers be called pits before. The news likes to call every dog that bites a pit bull because it then becomes sensational and gives them more views", "you can blame the dog a little bit", "Shit.\n\nI'm. Found out\n\nGuess no one will ever try that joke again.", "That's why I opened with \"to a certain degree.\" Breeds were, well, bred to do certain things. Those desired qualities for a particular task were selected and then amplified. Since at least the 1870s, this dog has been specifically bred for dogfighting. While I'm sure several decades of work could undo some of the damage done to this breed, it would require a very selective program and there would still be a chance that you could have a monster. \n\nI agree but I don't think the owners can be held blameless for problems with any breed, even this one.", "Thank you. You read my comment correctly.", "Well in the case of the pit rescuer who had both arms and one breast ripped off the other day… it can be.", "Their heads are bowling balls with hinges. If one decides to hurt you it will. If a chihuahua decides to hurt you, it will also do so but only to your ankles.", "\"I'm alive — therefore death doesn't exist\"", "Honestly I don't think anyone *should* find fault with either of those ideas.\n\nI mean yeah gene editing isn't an everday reality yet, and I can understand people being wary of giving others access to their genetic data/ letting them have a say in their relationships.\n\nBut if we lived in societies where that was already the norm, you'd be foolish to go back to where we are now in my opinion lol", "While not realistic in the slightest, I would love to have a 50 pound domesticated cat. Imagine the epic snuggles and belly rubs! Even though they would eviscerate you eventually, it would be glorious for a while.", "No one has been anything but kind and reasonable to you. Please try to give tge same respect back to them.", "Should add that AmStaffs are one of the (several) Pit Bill breeds but do not have the typical bull characteristics. My AmStaff mix is only 40 lbs though and she’s full grown. She too is a bit of a scaredy cat with many people where I live letting their dogs sprint down to their sidewalks (some have invisible fences that aren’t backed up the usual 3-5 ft I don’t know why). Very irresponsible and frustrating. \n\nI got my dog from ASPCA and unfortunately she was emaciated and had kennel cough that turned into pneumonia when I got her. She was feral for some period of time down south before she was obviously captured, spayed, chipped, and sent to shelter. She took professional training because of her lack of socialization to get her to be less anxious around other dogs. Other humans have never been a problem though. As always we should all be responsible, keep good watch on our dogs, and keep them leashed especially if it’s a situation where that’s the only way to regain control.", "Seems to me like you aren't taking my advice since you're still making assumptions. 🤣", ">Her sister said the dog had previously shown signs of aggression.\n\n>“My sister has the biggest heart for animals and just couldn’t get rid of it. … Her heart was too big, and they thought they could fix him,” Shannon said.\n\nLiterally gambling with the lives of you and your family, because \"your heart is so big\". Nice concept of love these pit owners have.", "\"Just gas them all. Their a violent breed! Allowing these animals to live puts lives in danger!\"\n\nSound like ethnic cleansing to me.", "Most people can't even accurately identify a pit bull.", "The issue is that if you think personality traits like hostility can be passed genetically in other species, it's not a far leap to say the same for people. That's a conversation that can have serious implications in a diverse society.", "That’s the point. Yeah, chihuahuas are little shits. But the difference between a chihuahua is that I can punt it across the yard or stomp on it if it comes after me.", "I live in a moderately sized city in Texas, and cant walk my dogs north of my house because there are loose/stray pitbulls literally patrolling the streets it seems like. Im guessing you live in a nice area, where you have considerate dog owners. A big issue here is folks dont maintain the fencing in their back yard. Or have pits that jump their fences and they dont do shit about it.", "Dipshit", "Because if it's inherited in dogs....\n\nAnyways, I haven't lived with my father since I was a toddler. I'm still a procrastinator like him.... Some behaviors can be inherited. It can suck. We have to deal with it and not deny it.", "Pitbulls are a bannd breed In the UK and Pitbull pups get put down.", "The only dog to bite me was a poodle", "What about you, could you shut your fucking dumb mouth?", "Not my widdle pibble! He only killed one child and that's because the child wasn't trained on how to properly avoid eye contact with the cute little velvet hippos!", "Because aggressiveness is a characteristic that can be controlled to through breeding. There was an article here on Reddit about a man who has reserving the current squishy-faced dogs to their original look of about 100 years ago, for example. Pit bulls have not just evolved in the wild, but we’re bred with the specific goal of creating a very strong, very aggressive animal suitable for fighting.", "Loved my Staffie an incredibly sweet playful dog who I still miss everyday. Don't be anti pitbull be anti the shitheads who raise them to dangerous.", "I have two doodles and this explains why they both like to stand like people", "Ahh, anecdotes. The facts of fools.", "At the very least all pits should have muzzles. But banning breeding them doesn't hurt anyone and only makes lives safer for everyone. What's next? Taking your pet croc to the dog park?", "> Dude everyone fetishizes Norway\n\nMy point", "I have a pomapoo who loves being held like a baby and will get angry if you try to hold her any other way.\n\nShe also will be found laying down like a human against a pillow on the couch at times and because of her frame, she tends to sit up and sort of lean over in a really funny way.\n\nShe is happy and very opinionated but a fun time.", "\"Fatal dog attacks in the United States cause the deaths of about 30 to 50 people in the US each year,[1] and the number of deaths from dog attacks appears to be increasing.[2] Around 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs every year, resulting in the hospitalization of 6,000 to 13,000 people each year in the United States (2005).[2] \"\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States", "What advice? i have talked to multiple americans and have multiple american friends.", "I have bad news for you. You cat is plotting to kill you as we speak. There are only two reasons you're still alive: (1) your cat thinks why do something today when it can be done tomorrow, and (2) tiny teefies.", "lol *citation needed*", "You’re welcome, I suppose. There are dogs bred to hunt rodents, so we shouldn’t have them around children in case their feet in booties make them look like a mouse to be attacked and killed, right? Get rid of them too while you’re at it. Maybe the numbers don’t back it up, but you’re talking about fundamentally dangerous traits and zero tolerance towards them.\n\nI will admit Millan knows much more than me. All your example really demonstrates is that there are individual lost causes. He thought he could help this one dog, and he was wrong. This is supposed to somehow indict the whole breed? Not buying it, sorry.", "To some extent I suppose, but I don't wish death on the dog just because it bit me.", "...and how is breed specific legislation going to prevent backyard breeders from making all the dogs they do that currently fill shelters?", "I do not live in a nice area, but perhaps I’m just lucky?", "You can't train this wild out of a wolf same way you can't train a trait purposefully bred into a breed. What you can do is selective breeding to make them smaller, with little muscle mass and with positive traits like submissiveness.", "I agree it's a non-issue, you should focus on dog attacks instead of deaths.", "Natural born killers.", "​\n\nHer death is so fresh they haven't had the chance to put her in the ground yet.\n\n[https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/mum-has-arms-ripped-off-dies-stopping-pit-bull-from-attacking-4yearold-son/news-story/181a697bc1a8cad876ac9aaeb4da0915](https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/mum-has-arms-ripped-off-dies-stopping-pit-bull-from-attacking-4yearold-son/news-story/181a697bc1a8cad876ac9aaeb4da0915)\n\nThis woman is a hero who saved her child.\n\nYou? You're internet trash.", "I mean all guns and all race cars, not just the some you referenced. You misunderstood my point, sorry it wasn’t more clear. Please reread my statement with this in mind.\n\nIt is on you. My standards do hold up, just not in this biased hate-parade. Scrutiny requires an open mind which none of you are exhibiting.", "Sucks cuz even tho there are trained instincts that last through the breed my pit bulls are super loving it really all comes down to how well socialized the dog is as well as training", "“Hypothetically speaking and for the sake of the argument”\n\nMan you really sound like shen bapiro Lmfaoo.\n\nLet me try.\n\nFor the sake of the exercise, you have two options, you just kill one of two children. One of whom is an average baby with nothing remarkable about them, and the other is just another average baby with nothing remarkable about them, but get this, the second baby is older by two days!\n\nWhich one do you kill?\n\nMaking a hypothetical that fits your narrative and his is generally a bad practice.\n\n(Also I choose to remain neutral here, it’s just a horrible argument lol)", "so, not 100% then?", "I did, and I stand by my claim. There are enough credible sources of information about the breed that I am comfortable holding an adult accountable and liable for their choice of owning a pit bull. Again, victims of a pit bull attack are forever affected.", "I had a teacher bring a pit puppy to class once and left it there unattended. I walked up to it to pet it and he immediately bit me and left a hole in my hand. I was afraid to tell anyone. I should have as that puppy may have easily grown up to kill someone or someone's pet. There is no reason to breed pits unless you own a junk yard and want the dog to maul anyone trespassing.", ">Word to anyone reading this: its much easier to just ~~block insufferable people like the person I'm responding to then to engage their craziness~~ *continue to try to deflect so you don't think about how u keep ignoring the original question.*", "Have you seen some of them? They're incredibly strong dogs. For the record, I do believe there are other breeds just as dangerous, it's a combination of traits, both personality and physicality.\n\nI'm not even against people owning the breed, my issue is so many people are bad dog owners, so it turns into a bad situation.\n\nOne of my coworkers has two pits and they are the most well behaved dogs I've ever seen, and sweet as pie. Those dogs aren't as dangerous because they have been trained.", "I will happily do so after I get an answer to my question. Until then, I’ll pass.\n\nPlease remind me how “kind and reasonable” that person who replied to me was. All I see is you reveling in your own stupidity, so thanks for your worthless advice.", "Fuck pitbulls.", "People absolutely have and continue to advocating to ban people who own Pitbulls from living in certain apartments or even cities. When people have limited mobility or housing options, that is very close to trying to take peoples dogs away", "In the US, pit bull is not a breed, it's a description. Pretty much all \"pit bulls\" are mutts with specific qualities of bulldogs and terriers. I don't think there are very many instances of pitbulls being misidentified, most have very distinguishing features which are the definition of the \"breed\".\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pit_Bull_Terrier", "\"The probability of a bite resulting in a complex wound was 4.4 times higher for pit bulls compared with the other top-biting breeds ... and the odds of an off-property attack by a pit bull was 2.7 times greater.\"\nDog-Bite Injuries to the Craniofacial Region: An Epidemiologic and Pattern-of-Injury Review at a Level 1 Trauma Center, by Khan et al., MS J Oral Maxillofac Surg, March 2020\n\n\nParental presence was reported in 43.6% of cases ... The most commonly identified breed was the pit bull ... Pit bulls were also the most commonly identified breed involved in major injuries.\n\nPediatric Dog Bite Injuries in Central Texas, by Abraham et al., Journal of Pediatric Surgery, July 2019\n\n\n\nUnlike all other breeds, pit bull terriers were relatively more likely to attack an unknown individual (+31%), and without provocation (+48%).\n\nDog bites of the head and neck: an evaluation of a common pediatric trauma and associated treatment, by O'Brien et al., Am J Otolaryngol, Jan–Feb, 2015\n\nIn this series, dogs causing the injury were overwhelmingly familiar with the patient: 53% of dogs belonged to the family ... In our series (as in Philadelphia), Pit bulls were most commonly responsible.\n\nMorbidity of pediatric dog bites: A case series at a level one pediatric trauma center, by Garvey et al., Journal of Pediatric Surgery, February 2015", "> Driving drunk is incredibly dangerous to the point that most people would never do it out of common sense.\n\nthat's not really true, though. According to the cdc:\n\n>In 2016, more than 1 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics.3 That’s one percent of the 111 million self-reported episodes of alcohol-impaired driving among U.S. adults each year (figure below).", "I don't know, watched 5 minutes and still hasn't told me what a pitbull is.", "All the ones I ran into were really stupid and their owners knew it, they call them lunkheads and dumbasses and while they would 'listen' to them usually as soon as another dog showed up they'd rip the chain right off the pole and go for the kill. Not funny. Not cute.", "I have a Texas heeler and he used to stamp at my old cat to “herd him” into specific areas. He just instinctively knows how to herd it’s pretty crazy", "“You do not have the wits” is kind and reasonable?\n\nI did give it back exactly as I got it. I’ll do the same with you.", "Gay people are banned in the Saudia Arabia and get arrested. Does that make them right?", "That's a really cool story.", "Relax child", "The breeds where deemed to agressive, only those 5 breeds of every dog breed, dogs literally breed to fight, from wikipedia \n\n>The Argentine Dogo is a large, white, muscular breed of dog that was developed in Argentina primarily for the purpose of big-game hunting, including wild boar.\n\n>The Fila Brasileiro (Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈfilɐ ˌbrɐziˈlejɾu]), or Brazilian Mastiff, is a large working breed of dog developed in Brazil.[1] It is known for its superb tracking ability, aggressiveness and an unforgiving, impetuous temperament.\n\n>The Tosa (土佐, also called the Tosa Inu, Tosa-Ken or Japanese Mastiff) is a breed of dog of Japanese origin that is considered rare. It was originally bred in Tosa, Shikoku (present day Kōchi) as a fighting dog and is the only breed still used (legally) in Japanese dog fighting.[1] Ownership is restricted in some countries as a dangerous breed.\n\n>Most pit bull-type dogs descend from the British Bull and terrier, a 19th century dog-fighting type developed from crosses between the Old English Bulldog and the Old English Terrier.\n\nthese are dogs that are made to fight, therefor Norway and many other countries deemed them too agressive.", "chicagoinjurycenter.com/common-breeds", "All big dogs pose danger", "Learn to write you pissant :D", "American Pitbull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers are effectively the same breed, but different names for different Kennel registries. It was only a couple of decades ago that the same dog could be registered under both breed names. The AKC did not like the stigma attached to APBT, so changed the name.\n\nAmerican Bullys were bred from APBT and Bulldogs. Lumping them in with Pitbulls is understanable. Staffordshire Bull Terriers were also bred for dog fighting, but came from England. So again, understandable to lump them in with Pitbulls.", "The US has 330 million people.\n\nSomething like 50 die from dog attacks in the US each year, out of 330 million. That is relatively insignificant compared to things like drowning (~4k a year) traffic deaths (About 30-40k a year) or heart disease (~660k per year). This is a rate pretty comparable to many European countries.", "My dog was bitten in the face by a lab. Almost blinded him in one eye. The family and everyone else argued he was the nicest dog. BS, my Great Pyrenees who could've eaten their lab and didn't is the nicest dog. All dog breeds can be absolutely fucking awful, even if you argue Pit Bulls can be worse. If you had that happen, you might feel the same about labs. It's best not to use anecdotes.", "Any mental illness diagnosis including depression should be enough to bar someone from owning a gun. That would solve a lot of problems since a good chunk of Americans are diagnosed with one thing or another. Mental illness shouldn't be normalized. We shouldn't act like depression should be just a part of life. As long as that's the case guns should be restricted from such people.", "Here's a flaw with that logic. Say we have no more pitbulls, what are the shitty owners that want a dog like that going to do? Move on to the next breed that can take the place? Now we have to ban another breed, rinse and repeat until dogs are banned completely. \n\nSame with pugs, if they become non existent there will be a new demand for the next fucked up troubled breathing animal. Blame the owners first.", "If there was a car in which the gas tank spontaneously combusted when the car was in any accident, it wouldn't be legal. Even if you want to say \"well the driver is ultimately the problem here\" the car still wouldn't be allowed to be sold because there are safer alternatives. That same logic needs to be applied to pits.", "“Evil Breed of animal,” 😂", "You literally started this by saying pray drive is personality, and then in your following points have made no relationship to personality whatsoever. \n\nAll animals have varying degrees of aggression. You can train your animals to not be aggressive and function around other people and pets without being the murderous creatures most anti pitbull proponents think they are.\n\nI used to *live* at a dog rescue. My mother founded and operated a dog rescue foundation that focused specifically on large breeds with short shelter life's (aggressive dogs like pitbulls) and most of the time would keep them at home.\n\nI guarantee you I've had more exposure to pitbulls and every \"dangerous\" breed of dog in one year than you will have in your entire life. \n\nMany of the dogs were heavily abused, and they could be reformed. Obviously some of them couldn't be reformed, but the breed is want the indicator on which of them could be reformed after years of abuse.", "I'm sorry that I have laughed at you, I shouldn't.\nI just checked your history and you're clearly retarded.", "the concept of nuance seems to be lost on you", "Just quit, man. You look sad.", "Because aggression isn't a blanket thing. A dog can be aggressive to only specific things and not be a danger to others.\n\nPlenty of people have dogs that kill mice, hunt rabbits or chase squirrels, but they don't fear these dogs will kill people. That's because this dogs are aggressive towards those creatures. They know the difference between a human and a mouse.\n\nThe same is true for dogs like pits that tend towards dog aggression. They will fight another dog, but be sweet with people. In other words, they aren't inherently dangerous towards people.\n\nBut this issue is so large, it's much more complicated than just genetics since most dogs you see labeled as pit bulls aren't purebred or bred to breed standards. Their genetics are all over the place.", "By the way you worded this it sounds like the \"Crazy pit bull supporters\" are the ones bred for a purpose lol.", "There are actually people who advocate killing pitbulls that are already with families", "I was attacked by a sharpei or how ever you spell it", "its more difficult because more factors affect human mind than dog mind. \n\nAlso gestation time", "https://youtu.be/4dwjS_eI-lQ\n\nCommon knowledge humans have been breeding for certain traits, physical and otherwise. That's how we program breeds. Based on breeding you can create a breed that will behave exactly as you expect.", "There’s a lot of dog breeds that shouldn’t be allowed imo Pitbull, Rottweiler etc. People essentially have miniature tigers on a leash and we all have to “trust me bro” them that they have control.", "The equivalent I've seen pushed is that once pit bulls are out of the way, \"they\" will just go after the next on the list, and so on, until no one is allowed to have any dog larger than a teacup poodle.", "My dog was nearly blinded by a lab. Fuck labs?", "Heelers are incredible. Insanely smart, super affectionate dogs.", "Tbh we should be banning all “pure breed” breeders. Selective breeding is actively destroying all dogs.", "How would that effect their mentality, especially after training them?\nAnd even if this is true why would bull fighting make them attack humans?", "watch the video. They've killed or maimed more people in the US than all other breeds combined", "Let's ban outdoor cats next then.", "Angry boy you are", "Wow, i can't believe the list is full of poodles and yorkies! /s", "The same could be said about every law. All I know is when they lifted them in my town, 6 months later the shelters were pleading with people to stop adopting them abandoning them to the shelters. So certainly they don't prevent them 100% but it definitely helps.", "If you think pit bulls are inherently more aggressive than a normal dog you're simply a fucking idiot. They're just better at aggression. No one reports some stray that bites their ankles, but you have to report a dog that took three fingers. Plain and simple - don't let people who can't manage a dogs behavior own pit bulls.", "True, I'm not denying that.", "You keep saying they were \"made to fight\" but in that exact quote it says the Argentino dogo was developed primarily for hunting. The AKC describes the American Staffordshire Terrier as \"confident, smart and good-natured\". Just for a clarity the AKC doesn't even recognize the Pit Bull.\n\nDrink your kool-aid though.", "I mean when we are talking about animals that run on instinct and instinct is created by DNA then how hard is that that understand. And this only happens in domesticated animals as we play God and pick and choose traits. In nature it ends up being whatever allows the animal to survive. Behavior is genetic programming which is passed on from generation to generation. When you condense that process into domestication you can have a rat that attacks anything that moves or a cat that's too afraid of their own shadow.", ">Dogs with pit bull heritage breed DNA were identified only 33 to 75 percent of the time, depending on which of the staff members was judging them. Conversely, dogs lacking any genetic evidence of relevant breeds were labeled as pit bull-type dogs from 0 to 48 percent of the time, the researchers reported.\n\nfrom here:\n\n[DNA studies reveal that shelter workers often mislabel dogs as ‘pit bulls’](https://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/2016/02/17/dna-studies-reveal-that-shelter-workers-often-mislabel-dogs-as-pit-bulls/)", "I'll never buy the deal that Pit Bulls are just wonderful pets, like a Golden Retriever. Nuts!", "People have not been subjected to eugenics, selecting the most aggressive specimens for reproduction. Take a look at how they tried to make foxes into mascots and how few generations they needed to have results (not recommending it either but the example works), by selecting individuals the change is important and quick. Humans have never been selected to become more and more aggressive each generation, pit bulls have, and once you stop promoting just the most aggressive ones for reproduction it’s not like you are reducing their aggressive tendencies unless you start promoting just the most docile ones.\n\nI am no expert, maybe I am wrong, but the comparison you made doesn’t seem fair to me.", "Dogs aren't people. What point are you trying to make?", "We call them Australian cattle dogs here. Or heelers.", "Yeah my dog was attacked by a pit. Thankfully he was smaller and in a good harness so I was able to hoist him into the air like a weird dog briefcase and play keep away with the pit until its owner got there.\n\nI wasn't mad at the pit, I was mad at its owner. The guy was playing frisbee with the dog off leash in the middle of a highly trafficked area of the neighborhood and when the dog inevitably ran away from him, all he did was stand there cursing at it and yelling for it to come back. That told me all I needed to know about him as an owner and that it would happen regardless of the breed of dog he owned. People like that are a menace because they turn their dogs into dangerous animals.", "https://youtu.be/4dwjS_eI-lQ\n\nThey already know how to breed docile animals.", "Kind of like how the government is pushing violent criminals on us with the no bail system and allowing violent criminals to run free with no repercussions. Put a bad human down as we put bad dogs down. Life is life. Some lives should end because of their behaviors 🤷‍♂️", "To all the people saying to ban the Pitbull breed, you're stupid. The pitbull can be a great loving dog under the right circumstances, but you really have to know what you are doing as a dog owner in order to raise one. The pitbull is not a beginner dog, but to just wipe an entire breed out of existence is fucked up.", "Once had a feral kitten get into the bathroom of the place I was staying at. \n\nIt took four adults and welding gloves to get the little thing outside. Couldn't have weighed more than a kilo, but had the energy of a 4th of july celebration. \n\nDon't piss cats off, they will fuck", "I’d love to see a study where they make an effort to separate causation and correlation. Obviously most assholes who don’t actually want a pet to train, but instead want a weapon that that is supposed to scare people, will get the dog that people think is scary. It’s more likely that a bad owner will buy a pit bull than another breed because of this exact public sentiment. So that is immediate a massive compromise in trying to draw causation from the breed. \n \nI’m no scientist, but I feel like to get actual data on this you need something more nuanced than an after the fact data collection study. It’d need to be a long term study with controlled variables. Collect a large population of prospective dog owners who have been vetted for a number of factors leading to good dog ownership. Have them get pit bulls (making note of which ones are adopted and at what ages to consider how this effects variables) and study and follow these families for years. \n \nIf the rate and severity of attacks is unchanged from the public numbers then we can say that yes, it has to do with the breed. If the numbers are wildly different then we know to tackle this issue from another angle and study other factors.", "I mean, it's not a terrible idea.\n\nThe biggest reason shelters in my area are full of them is landlords ban them, so people *have* to give up their dogs or be homeless.", ">Around midnight, the father of the infant called 911 after he returned to the home and found his daughter on the floor, unresponsive. The Commander of the Violent Crime Bureau stated that the child had been attacked by the family dog and died from her injuries. The coroner ruled the death an accident and stated the child died from blood loss. The incident is under investigation by the Special Victims Unit.\n\n>The pit bull mix was fighting with a beagle mix in the family home. The teenage son removed the beagle from the room to get it away from the pit bull. The pit bull mix then attacked the baby. The coroner stated that one month old Julian died from multiple sharp, catastrophic injuries to his head and neck.[10][11] The boy's mother was sentenced to one year in jail after pleading guilty to neglect of a dependent resulting in bodily injury.\n\n>The family pit bull, \"Thor\", killed Sterling in the family home. The 5-year-old was dead by the time the police arrived. A family member called 911 stating that the pit bull attacked the child and would not let go.\n\n>The family dog bit the child's face completely off.\n\n>The boy was mauled and killed by the neighbor's pit bulls when he had gone outside to check the mail. The dogs had been aggressive in the past. The dog's owner was arrested on a \"felony tampering with physical evidence\" charge.\n\n>A toddler was attacked by a dog on May 31 and mauled. He was transported to a hospital and died the following day.\n\nIt just goes on and on. So many little kids killed by pit bulls.", "Click back every year on this site: \n\n[https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities.php](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities.php)\n\nNotice anything? How can this be argued?", "People aren't specifically bred for certain traits. If the government forced only people with 'positive traits like altruism and lack of aggression sure that could happen. You can't train someone to kill without major psychological damage.", "I don’t have the best news outlet reading platform because I don’t wanna pay for one. I do find that on apple news People magazine likes to regularly post about pit bulls mauling and killing toddlers and babies. In fact, today I read 3 such articles, one of the victims was a mother protecting her son and she lost both her arms and subsequently died from injuries. Anyway, it has resulted in me having massive anxiety and fear around any dog greater than 20 pounds. I wish I could watch this documentary because I would probably find it very helpful with understanding why ANYONE would own a dog that can kill you - pitbull or otherwise - but I can’t because I’ve reached my limit from the shitty media I read daily.", "What constitutes an \"open mind\" for you? There is hard data showing that pit bulls are responsible for more deaths than other dog breeds. Do you believe that most of the irresponsible dog owners in the world just happen to adopt pit bulls? Logically speaking, irresponsible owners would be evenly spread among all dog breeds. It is very unlikely they are a variable skewing the results.\n\nAll I've seen out of you is close-mindedness. A blatant refusal to accept the inherent danger of the breed despite the data. You refuse to believe that a dog breed can be bred for aggressiveness and thus is more dangerous to own, yet you tell *me* to have an open mind? My mind is plenty open, pal, I have taken in all the facts and come to my conclusion based on said facts, not because I have any special hatred of pit bulls. \n\nYou constantly speak like you're under attack, or that these innocent dogs are under attack, but neither is the case. I have never said it was the dogs' fault. They're just doing what they naturally do. But *that* is the problem. And if it comes down to ending legal ownership of pit bulls to save however many human lives in the future, it's an easy choice to make.", "I can understand the reasoning, if someone was breaking into my house and got smoked by my dog I wouldn't want the police to kill it without my input.", "Did you look at the list? Most of those reports were compiled by law enforcement.", "Look up the Russian experiment where they bred foxes with half in each generation picked for aggressive traits and half for friendliness towards people if you're interested in the genetic heritability of behaviour. I can't get a link right now but it's easy enough to find and pretty revealing.", "I agree.", "\"I don't know how many Americans you've met, but I'd advice you to meet a couple more before making such sweeping assumptions\"\n\nThen you read a couple of sentences from me and made another assumption.\n\nI'm sure your American friends are great, but in no way do they represent the country as a whole. Literally just Google \"healthcare America\" or \"abortion America\" or \"prison reform America.\" You'll see that a large part of America is vehemently against changing our government resembling anything like Norway's. And to be clear, I'm not saying they are right or wrong. I'm just saying that they exist.", "“A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, both would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog then agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature.”", "Anyone who has a kennel full of dogs is probably irresponsible The dogs it killed were probably chained up on short chains and thus unable to run away. You see it all over the south. A backyard full of miserable dogs constantly bred out untill they are no longer profitable. Anyways, have a nice day.", "Thats not what the comment said at all. \n\nMy take is this: dog breeds are completely artificial. Why should we allow the specific breed that has been bred specifically for violence to keep being bred? Just breed any other type!", "You give up certain traits to give way for others like humans did. At one point we had powerful jaws and small brains. We had to make way for brains to develop so our bodies and skulls changed over time to accommodate a bigger brain. Smaller muscles and a more upright standing position etc.", "Thank you for illustrating the problem of using \"dog bites\" as the measuring tool. Now that that is out of the way, let's look at the statistics that matter: the number of people fatally or grievously injured by dog bites before and after the ban.", "Oh so hunting isnt fighting? so when its wrestling, biting and brawling a boar it isnt fighting? Well then i apologise.\n\nThe Staffordshire terrier and pitbull terrier both have dogfighting genes, they come from dogs breed to fight.", "> The thing I don't get about this whole \"debate\" is why the fuck it matters. It's not like we only have 1 dog breed. Just pick another one. I've had plenty of dogs and they were all great. \n\nIt's because you buy a pitbull to send a message.\n\nPitbull owners who talk about how their dog is a sweetheart and they wouldn't hurt a fly and they never did anything and are completely harmless aren't necessarily lying, but they got the dog to send a message anyway.\n\nEveryone knows what a pitbull's reputation is. You don't buy one because you have such love for the breed, or because all other breeds are worse, or because you think they're the sweetest or whatever. You buy them because when you have one in your yard or you walk it in the neighbourhood you are sending a message to everyone else: don't fuck with me or this dog will kill you. \n\nEven if your specific dog wouldn't ever do that, people don't know that. The dog is the message, and very few people will challenge that message.", "Yeah, it looks like someone has never had either a Border Collie or a Kelpie.\n\nEven the dumbest ones are whip-smart. The intelligent ones make you wonder about how abstract a dog's thoughts can actually get.\n\n(Smartest dog I've ever seen was taught to close a door, on command, repeatedly, in 45 seconds).", "Nobody is asking for your dog to be taken from you. I think that is where the disagreement is.\n\nMost are just calling for the breed to stop being bred.", "That's when you ask them which races of people they think are more violent, and why", "Nobody is selectively breeding humans for one. I mean it's like the plot of half of those 80s movies where they breed killer warriors with low intelligence.", "I gotta ask, when do you need to move some cattle, and how is it so occasional that your dog rarely interacts with them. Do you live in an area where neighbors cattle wind up on your property some times?", "I'm sorry, your comment proves my point though? The dog is reacting out of fear. So fear = the reason. I'm not saying that ALL dogs are suitable to be pets. Anyone who suggests that is an idiot, and most rescues would tell you the exact same thing. They have to make judgment calls about dogs in shelters all the damn time. I don't agree that pitbulls are a family pet for \"anyone,\" but I find you and the fervor with which you defend your positions fucking sus. You've built a lot of straw man arguments up for yourself and it's showing honey.", "But he's friendly", "Just to note, I'm 100% more afraid of a bad owner with a German shepherd or a bad owner with a Retriever or Labrador than one with a pit bull.\n\nThe reason isn't because I think pit bulls will necessarily be less agrressive, but if they're gonna attack it'll be more obvious in my experience, while I've been around plenty of shepherds and other dogs where the owner says \"Oh don't worry they're friendly, they won't bite\" and I've personally been chased down and attacked(bitten at least thrice) because someone didn't leash their dog up or their dog got loose in my neighbourhood. None of the cases were from pit bulls. The owners of the other dogs just don't seem to feel like they need to be remotely as cautious as even the worst pit bull owners in my area seem to be.\n\nMeanwhile two Rotties(similar builds to pit bulls) have gotten out and killed a dog or two. And the owner was given all kinds of hell for keeping such dangerous dogs in the residential area. \n\nThe disparity in discipline and control of dog breeds is infuriating. Because of their reputation, anecdotally pit bull owners just seem to at least be more aware that dogs require more caution and discipline than just treating your pet like it's your darling baby child.", "You sound like the type of person who justifies their racism with Fox News articles.", "It was a matter of survival. We evolved into less aggressive versions but it's still our programming. We don't have any more free will than any other primate. We just aren't capable of the same kind of damage that's why when you put a gun in the hands of a human at some point it may be used to kill.", "Yes... a group famously known for getting facts correct and not miscategorizing things. Even animal shelter workers aren't very good at identifying pitbulls. \n\nHere's an article about it: https://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/2016/02/17/dna-studies-reveal-that-shelter-workers-often-mislabel-dogs-as-pit-bulls/\n\nEdit: to be clear, I think dog breeding IN GENERAL should be pretty heavily restricted. I think restriction based on a classification that has been demonstrated to be prone to error and essentially subjective in accuracy, is a bad thing.", "OK but controversial is where the butter is at.", "> Chimpanzees have the vocal ability to speak human language. \n\nSorry, this was new to me, so I looked it up. It's correct\n\nhttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/12/161209144919.htm", "Look I don’t have anything against Mr. Worldwide. His music is a little commercialized for my tastes personally, but I can understand how that can broaden his international appeal.", "That laws on books arnt the justification for correct and moral actions.", "You know you're wrong so you're bringing fox news into it for... some reason? And no. If you bothered to look at my comments I'm a regular in the Eugene Oregon subreddit. Not exactly a repub meccha.\n\nAnyway, aside from bringing up Fox news (again for... some reason? Are they antipitbull?) Do you actually have a point?\n\nA woman getting killed by a pitbull isn't exactly rare news nor does it have anything to do with the reds, you know what I mean?", "People act like we’re just talk about breeding a mood, but hormones affect and cause behaviors. So obviously if you select for more prevalence of a certain hormone, guess what happens.\n\nEdit: also, this experiment is fascinating. Thanks for the recommendation, /u/locke66 https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/mans-new-best-friend-a-forgotten-russian-experiment-in-fox-domestication/", ">Oh so hunting isnt fighting?\n\n[I guess by your measure Norway has a few more breeds to ban then.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_dog)\n\n>The Staffordshire terrier and pitbull terrier both have dogfighting genes, they come from dogs breed to fight.\n\nAnd all dogs come from Wolves. Norway ban dogs for being too wolf-like as well and seeing as breeds can never change from their origin I guess they just shouldn't have dogs at all. Too wild.\n\nSip sip, potato chip.", "And im not saying they dont exist either and i have browsed this site for 7 years watching it become an echo chamber. You allready have a premade opinion of republicans because they vote republican, voting republican doesnt mean you support everything the party do, yet you hate republicans in a ''us vs them'' mentality. Norway have the opposite problem almost, we have way too many parties, you on the other hand have 2 and its impossible to represent everyone with 2 parties. A person is more than a Democrat or a Republican but thats all you boil their human thoughts, feelings and essence down too.", "The open mind that says, yes I acknowledge what you’re saying about the statistics and the history. I completely understand the risk involved, but I don’t agree with blanket extermination. I insist upon great responsibility for anyone who would own this breed, like a gun or sports car. If you’re going to issue a blanket ban on a breed, do the same with those other things. That open-mindedness. You might call it whataboutism. I call it demonstrating that we do something similar elsewhere, so let’s apply similar standards here. It can be done. Will some individual animals be destroyed because they are too far gone or can’t find a home? Absolutely. Beats going extinct.\n\nApologies if me debunking that all breeds are people lovers except pit bulls is close-minded. That shit was lunacy. Someone calling for the extinction of an animal is open-minded: TIL.", "They will generally argue that pitbulls are on average no more aggressive than any other dogs.\n\nWhat they fail to point out is that they are way more capable of performing harm than, for example, the most aggressive yorkie. \n\nThey will also argue that a well trained dog is not that dangerous, but I think it is pretty rare for people to train these large dogs to the degree that they should be to ensure some reasonable level of safety around them. Even in that case, just playing with them can be dangerous. My uncle had a very well trained and well behaved rot that accidentally bit my cousin in the face while playing, causing her to need to go to the hospital and get stitches.", "Are attacks on toddlers by particular breeds of dog a justification?\n\nYou and I both know that particular breeds are overassociated with those statistics.\n\nAnd in countries where they've been banned, there isn't a corresponding replacement breed (rottweilers, for example) suddenly being disproportionately represented. so it doesn't look like it's an owner problem, to be frank.", "Inb4 it gets locked\n\nI love animals and have a soft spot for those with bad reputations, but there is just something about pit-bull lobbying that is very wrong. I don't think I've ever seen owners of big reptiles deny that their pets need very special handling and definitely have the potential to be aggressive. Even that guy who made a video talking about what is it like to have a pet raven emphasized that it was a bad idea and that those birds will absolutely wreck any animal smaller than them (at least thats what I remember). Pitbull dogs may have larger brains, but they're definitely more agile and stronger than almost all other potentially dangerous animals you can buy. And because they're dogs they get to access public spaces and common areas with people, if you couple that with an owner that's clueless or in denial about the potential aggressivity of their pet you get a disaster waiting to happen.\n\nI don't advocate for an outright ban, because that's a huge rabbit-hole, but I'd ask for more regulation, make it necessary to apply for a permit or get a license, call people who spread the \"nanny dog\" misinformation out on their bullshit.", "I did watch the fucking video. Don't you realize that animal control is paid for by tax payer dollars? Like with every public service if you aren't happy with it then write your city officials, run for office, or \\*gasp\\* volunteer in your community.\n\nVilifying the very institution that is actually trying to spay/neuter strays and keep dogs off the streets is insane. This video seems to think that all of this is the fault of the very people in your community that are giving their time to actually try and make a difference.\n\nYou want to be part of the solution? Go volunteer at your local shelter. I did it for 2 years, it's rewarding and will actually teach you something about why there are so many fucked up dogs on the streets in the first place.", "Which is why I won't bring a large shelter dog into my home with my cat. Too many pit mixes being labeled as straight retrievers.", "I can kick a retriever in the face and it'll back off and run. A pit will die before it stops killing you wagging its tail the whole time.", "That will kill off a lot of beautiful big dogs, there are some really fantastic breads you would be sentencing to death with that philosophy. Most of them can physically overcome an adult human, but choose not to. I am thinking dogs like akita and mountain dogs of various countries. Aggression is far more dangerous than size as a measure.", "Ah yeah those animals known for killing violently. Lol not too bright.", "I sent my 2 standard poodles to a hunting dog trainer when they were 3 years old just to see what would happen. I now own a very nice shotgun and have so many pheasants in my freezer I give them away for others to enjoy. Neither have a working hunter in their bloodline at least 10 generations back. The looks I get when we go hunting are exactly what you imagine.", "I agree. I've been trying to get my local dog park to ban pitbulls to no avail.", "This reminds me of Bill Burr's comments about his pit bull. She was kind to him and his wife but once he had his daughter, the pit bull got territorial and ended up living out a happy life with her trainer as a solution. Whenever he talks about her, you can tell how sad it made him to not be able to keep his dog, but it was not an option to keep her in the house. Of course it's just a single dog in the mix, but it's true of animals as a whole, you can't know how they are going to react to different people and situations until you introduce them to that situation.", "You know you're wrong when you ignore someone's point to whine about what bum fuck hick town you're from.", "Like the other dude said, you have the percentage wrong, and even so, if we go by the list the guy you replied to posted, if you are killed by a dog, there is a 67.8% chance that it will be a pit bull or pit bull mix, which isn't an insignificant number when you realize that it is compared to all other dog breeds in bulk.\n\n(109 total dogs that have killed someone, not counting those where they don't mention a breed, and of those 74 are by pit bull or pit bull mixes).", "Says someone whos never seen a pit.", "Lol", "While one is domesticated and one is tamed, the owner is the same person. An idiot with no idea, no discipline, no commitment, and no training.", "exactly if we all had Pitbull size house cats SHIT WOULD BE FUCKED , you ever meet a bob cat or a Cougar ?", ">Nobody should be breeding any dog until the shelters are empty\n\nNo. Pitbulls are not a good choice for many people. Insurance will not always cover Pitbulls. They are restricted from many apartments and cities. And the characteristics of the breed make them unsuitable for many.\n\nI totally get saying do not breed Pits as there are already too many in shelters. But that does not apply to breeds like Labs, Goldens and Poodles. They have all been the most popular dog in America in different years. They are all affectionate and biddable, qualities highly desired by most for a family pet. They make great retrieving dogs, but not the type of dog to hunt down a boar. Whereas Pits are or were used to hunt boar. A breed that is bred to have the strength and tenacity to take down a boar requires far more specialized handling than one bred to fetch.", "If you read what I said I never said prey drive is a personality but an instinct and like aggression, it can be inherited.\n\nThe fact you have experience with the breed and can’t recognize what they are built and bred for shows you are blinded by dumbfounded compassion because you grew up in that environment. I’m sure in all that time there must have been instances were the breed has either lashed out in aggression or shown like you have stated, no signs of reforming. \n\nAbuse is not the cause of all aggression, these dogs have a drive to lash out at times, it varies per dog but it’s what they have been breed for. \n\nI have owned dogs, GSD and now huskies. I have bred huskies and inherently know what gets passed on and doesn’t. Breeders and even people who rehabilitate have too many dogs to spend the necessary one and one devotion needed to assess each dog on a personal level. Each dog within even a litter is vastly different sometimes but inherently they take after their parents. \n\nHuskies love to socialize, pull and have high amounts of energy. It’s what makes them what they are. I can’t take that way except teach them to control their urges in positive ways. If I don’t give them the necessary exercise they become disruptive. If they don’t socialize they become depressed or again disruptive. \n\nPit bulls need a way to channel their aggression and power in positive ways and be taught that animals and humans are off limits. Otherwise no matter how well trained they are, down the line something in them will switch on and they will do what they meant to do.\n\nThis isn’t about anti pit bulls but anti human ignorance. Pit bulls have higher aggression and due to their power they can seriously maim and kill. They require a lot more care than what your average owner gives them. \n\nHaving said all of that, any pit bull off leash or without proper supervision should be treated as a threat and approached cautiously. They will attack other dogs and small children if they decide to. I have seen videos of them attacking even large animals like a horse. The horse was pulling a carriage and it got loose and “playfully” was biting it and caused some serious damage even after it took a kick to the face, it kept going.\n\nTell me another breed of dog that does that who isn’t also labeled aggressive. It thought it was having fun with it and in the end got put down after it was subdued. The owners will say the same thing they all say, “we don’t know what happened, he/she was very sweet”", "This makes my point.\n\n1 million arrests for drunk driving out of how many driving trips? That sounds like a lot, and it is. But, that's maybe 1% of drivers, and waaaaaay less than 0.1% of all driving outings.\n\nAnd the drunk drives that end in arrest typically mean that something worse was averted.", "My country has the same list... except for that one year there was this great movie that involved rotweillers.... then the next two years after that, pitbulls weren't at the top of the list.\n\nThis says to me that although pitbulls are a problem, the bigger problem is the type of person picking them.", "It's a free space. Have you ever played bingo before?", "Because some people self-validate by feeling that they know better than the experts/rest of us/anyone who disagrees with them. \n\nIt's a superiority complex that is very hard to reason against. It's a very similar mentality to the anti-vax movement.", "They banned a Wolfdog of many because it has too much wolf DNA, [looks like a wolf aswell](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/TWH-jolly.JPG), every other wolfdog is legal.\n\nAlso, [why dont you tell the 284 people killed by Pitbulls in America between 2005 and 2017 that the breeds change :)](https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/711x506/https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2018/09/20180914_Deadly_Dogs_Forbes.jpg?width=960)", "Yes, like I said, it's not a breed, it's a characteristic profile. It literally says in there that the breed cannot be identified with DNA because it's not a real breed: \n\n>Results of the study also showed that while limitations in available DNA profiles make absolute breed identification problematic, when visual identification was compared with DNA test results, the assessors in the study fared even worse.\n\nThat's the conclusion of the study, Pit Bulls cannot be identified by DNA. But look at that, more than half of the pit bulls identified were American Staffordshire terrier or Staffordshire bull terrier mixes. Seems like they did a pretty good job to me.\n\nThe American Pit Bull is a class of mutts bred for fighting and aggression, it's not something that was done by some scientist, it was done by dog-fighting rings, and they would grab all the problem dogs they could and breed them. So of course there isn't a consistent dna profile.", "100%\n\nPeople say they can be trained not to be aggressive.\n\nLike your average person is a dog trainer", "My cat can't kill me. I've fought one of my cats before as she scratched and bit my arm while I grabbed her to bring her inside before she ran off and got killed. She was very territorial when we tried to walk her on a harness so that was the last time. I had her under control. She left some marks but at no point was I in danger. I just disinfected with iodine after washing the wounds and moved on. She was full on murder mode and it was like she didn't even know me and yet I never feared for my life or losing a limb. I've also been bitten by dogs and other cats but none of them were pits and none of them did serious damage. I was in an enclosed space when some guy brought his pit puppy (who was the size of a medium dog) in and it kept trying to bite me the whole time. I was ready to blind it or stab it. That was the most stressful 20 minutes of my life and I've almost flown off a cliff.", "You forgot about the group that makes it racist.", "I mean my current cat is a coward and only threatens when she is being made uncomfortable but would rather run away. If I don't annoy her she just asks me to play.", "I agree with what you're saying. The difference between you and I is I don't treat just pitbulls that way. ALL dogs off leash without supervision should be treated as threats.\n\nI actually hate dog owners more than dog themselves, for exactly the reason you stated. They're always apologetic, say their dog has never dog anything like that etc.\n\nYes in my time with the dogs they have lashed out. MANY breeds have lashed out. Shepherd's, Rottweilers, Chihuahuas, terriers. The list goes on. There was no distinguishing characteristic between the breed lashing out and the breed that wasn't. The only persistent characteristic was trauma and abuse.\n\nI am not some mindless empath for dogs. I don't even love all dogs and am 100% ok with putting down any dog that bites a human or is unable to be reformed.\n\nMy issue is that 99% of the times these incidents occur. *it's because of human negligence*\n\nDogs are basic animals with basic operating systems. That can be trained and modified, but shouldn't be trusted, regardless of breed.", "Okay so let me just see if I got this straight. \n\n• Your uncle bred Pits for *years*\n\n• An average litter of puppies is 5-6 dogs\n\n• He in fact had at least 8 other dogs at the time of the incident, but almost definitely had had many more than that throughout the years of breeding\n\n• Eventually *one* specific dog goes all Cujo on the rest of the pack\n\nSo 1 out of probably at least *10* or more goes nuts and that means all pits are now just psychos waiting for the right moment? \n\nAre we ignoring the fact that your uncle’s stud wasn’t fixed, which leads to more aggressive behaviour in dogs, and that this was the *stud* which means he was bred specifically to be “the perfect dog” and was probably overbred to reach these absurd qualifications, but somehow this is the dog’s fault that he was given every possible negative factor you could for a dog? \n\nHow’s about we stop breeding dogs to be “perfect”, or whatever the shitheads at Kennel Clubs call it, and stop forcing dogs to fit these ridiculous “qualifications” that do nothing but cause incidences like your uncle’s or the others mentioned in the video because this kind of shit is dangerous to dogs. \n\nIt’s not the breed, or any breed, it’s the insane standards people force them to follow in order to be considered “the best”. Breeders are murderers, both of the dogs and the people those dogs hurt.", "At least find me someone actually making prescriptions instead of spamming random case studies, laymen cannot interpret anything involving data.", "AGRO AGRO AGRO!!", "Rottweilers are a bad breed too...\nAccording to the American Rottweiler Club:\n\nFor us, Rottweilers are the best breed in the world, but we firmly believe they are not a dog for everyone. Rottweilers require a calm, stable and firm \"pack leader\" or they will assume that role for you. Puppies AND adults need socialization, exercise and stimulating mental challenges. With these things, you will have a wonderful companion; without them, your Rottweiler may become destructive and out of control.\n\nhttps://www.amrottclub.org/about-the-rottweiler/\n\nSo if we are going to have a list of dog breeds requiring special licenses, rottweilers are going right near the top as well.", "How many alts do you have? It must be tough keeping track.", "It got deleted, I guess we couldn’t behave", "I hate Republicans? 🤣🤣🤣\n\nYou need to stop making such broad assumptions when you have NO info. I'm registered as Independent, but I vote for mostly republican candidates in our local elections. My family has plenty of R's and D's and we get along just fine, despite whatever headlines you've been reading. \n\nI'm now convinced that your \"American friends\" are just people you've had short 5minute conversations with and then you just make broad assumptions based on what little information they give you. That's exactly what you've done with our very short convo.", "That’s the *biggest* reason?", "Looking though the these anti-pitbull arguments in this thread and a lot of it indistinguishable from white supremacist arguments. \n\nBunch of copy paste taking points, data points with no context and hand waving any environmental arguments.\n\nA lot of the posts are actually making the whole \"13/50\" argument, just about Pittbuls instead of black people.\n\nNow before anyone gets triggered, I'm purely talking about how people are constructing their arguments, not trying to draw some direct line between racism and anti-pitbull people. Of course saying this is pointless, because no one is going to care and they just want to be triggered.", "Not really I see people fetishize Sweden but Norway is barely talked about", "Some breeds are incredibly versatile and can learn to do many things, like a Poodle. Poodles have earned herding certificates, sled dogs, and compete in schutzhund. But the best herding Poodle is never going to be as good as a top Border Collie. While an all Poodle team did complete the Iditarod, they only placed in the middle. Poodles were the first breed to serve in the U.S. Military, but the military found they were not well suited to being guard dogs.\n\nI have seen Basset hounds in Agility. While the dog completed the course, there is no way he will ever be an Agility champion. By the same token, I doubt you will ever see a Border Collie do as well in scentwork as a Bloodhound.", "The exercise is flawed. It uses an unrealistic hypothetical. It doesn’t matter how you answer, as neither answer actually proves a point.", "Is there an organization that I can donate to that collects pitbulls and euthanizes them to help eliminate the breed?", "Ever see Pointer puppies? If they see a bird, they adopt the classic pointing pose. They did not learn that, just instinct.", "You can just admit that all the data points to pitbulls be a dramatically more dangerous breed than any other. They would be best off if every pitbull was spayed/neutered and the breed was allowed to die out.", "Mine did all that, till he got older anyway. I bet she [lays down](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9477bd542c8b6ef7e6f759cb15b06b2b) when playing ball or Frisbee, too. I remember once, after one throw, mine did that and someone said, \"wow, he's tired already?\" No, you're just misunderstanding the situation entirely, haha. \n\nThey all seem to do it, especially [when herding](https://youtu.be/bpjP3mxv21s?t=147), and I never trained mine to do it. \n\nGot an English setter now. He is obsessed with birds on/near the ground (and not much else). He points, he'll freeze for a very long time, and he stalks. He's really good at it and I have, on two separate occasions, seen him snatch birds right out of the air. Didn't teach him any of that.", "Also they are strong dogs who refuse to let go when they bite. People are like chihuahuas and Terrier dogs can be aggressive like ahhh yes sometimes my adopted toothless 15 pound yorkie sometimes gets barky but he’s not ripping off anyones arms or mauling a child’s face anytime soon.", "I take care of horses and cows occasionally a few miles away from home but I don’t always bring my dogs. I had on old dog that wouldn’t put himself the correct spot and get kicked so it’s mainly a safety choice. The calves will sneak through fences or need to move pastures. My dog is fairly aggressive and wants to back the cattle off when they look at him but there are two specific occasions where he didn’t move towards the closest most obvious cow and read my intention to helped separate the cattle in a way he really should not have known how to do. I can’t really explain it other than he’s a little genius.", "The victim was the son of u/Auniqueredditname123", "Of course all dogs should be treated that way but if I see a chihuahua coming at me versus a pit bull. Which one do you think can cause more damage. If they both have the same types of aggression, the pit bull is going to do more damage.\n\nThe animal is a dog fighter and should be treated as such. I agree 100% dogs shouldn’t be trusted, especially ones that aren’t yours because you never know what kind of training they have.\n\nIt all goes back to what I said about the breed though. A hard kick to a chihuahua will stop it dead, those dogs are naturally aggressive too and annoying but compared to a pit bull who is actually built to cause damage. A hard kick probably won’t be enough especially if it’s lashed on. Why take those chances?\n\nEven GSD are dangerous too but they aren’t as prone to attacks like Pit bulls, police use them because they are highly intelligent and more trainable, being able to channel that aggression. \n\nWhy do you think police don’t use pit bulls? They are more well built and stronger in certain situations. The thing is they can be unpredictable due to their wired in aggression", "Quality breeders will invest in health testing of the parents at a minimum. Most are also involved in dog competitions of some sort to prove the dogs are fit.", "For the sake of the exercise it would be the border collie side. I am a pitbull owner.", "The problem isn't just personality, but bite strength. Chihuahuas can be aggressive, but they don't have the same bite strength.", "It's thought dogs were domesticated from wolves around 11,000 years ago. In evolutionary terms, it's literally nothing.\n\nRats and Mice seperated over 10,000,000 years ago.\n\nDogs may be man's best friend, but they're still very much wolves deep down, and while it's clear that artificial selection can make some very strong changes to an organism's genome very quickly, that can go both ways.", ">They banned a Wolfdog of many because it has too much wolf DNA, looks like a wolf aswell, every other wolfdog is legal.\n\nYeah, but you inferred that breeds cant change from their origin. Dogs are wolves by your metric. Why aren't you calling for a ban on all dogs?\n\n>Also, why dont you tell the 284 people killed by Pitbulls in America between 2005 and 2017 that the breeds change :)\n\nBecause dead people can't talk and [statistically speaking 60% of those cases aren't actually pitbulls.](https://www.pitbullinfo.org/inaccurate-pit-bull-statistics.html)\n\nLook dude, Im sorry you're afraid of dogs. I can tell you its misplaced or overblown, but you can only lead a horse to water and you've been fussy at the reigns from the start. I'm not gonna sit here textually slap-boxing with you over this. Sucks for Norway that they can't have a couple bully breeds including two of the most loving ones, but thats them. They've got the geography and social systems to make up for it.", "Your don't NEED to have one though. The breed serves no purpose.", "Ummmm because they see stories like that pit bull who attacked a four year old and maimed his mother so badly she died. There’s stories every year. No one is going to go up observe your dogs mouth like oh he is toothless and has cataracts and oh judging by his demeanor he must be old? It’s just better to stay away", "No one needs an assault dog!", "I think he means VIKING culture", "My conservative side of the family prides itself in being of 'Norwegian' ancestry. Its a white supremacy thing.", "My Goldendoodle will literally ask me stuff. I just need to figure out what he is trying to say. This afternoon, he came and got my attention while I was working. He led me to the couch. He want me to sit on the couch with him so he could snuggle next to me while I scratched behind his ears. Yesterday, he led me to his empty water dish. He had drank all his water earlier, and I had not noticed it was empty yet. If he leads me to the door, it means he wants to go outside. None of these behaviors were taught to him. He just figured out how to communicate his needs.", "Anyone who has owned any type of terrier and try to stop it going after small animals knows this. Why in fuck would people think it's a good idea to have that prey drive in the body of a Sherman tank.", "my dog mistakes cars for cattle and tries to herd them. not fun", "Wow rude. And also I was replying to your weird tangent about Fox News. Once again do you have anything about the death of a mother by pit bull in front of her child or are we done here?\n\nGoing immediately to personal attacks is trashy and shows you know you’re in the wrong.", "What am I, you? But bone apple teeth to you ;)", "I remember getting down voted in an other thread for saying not all dog bites are equal.", "Do you drive a car? If so you have a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car accident. Ever ride a bike? 1 in 3,825 chance of dying in a bicycle accident. Ever stay outside on a hot summer day for a long time? 1 in 8,248 chance of dying from sunstroke. All of these are lower than your “1 in 10,000” example. They are also much lower than the actual probability of dying in a dog attack which is 1 in 86,781.\n\n\nSource:\nhttps://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/", "I have an honest question about the “higher ups.” What exactly *is* the pit lobby? Are there people profiting from the sale of pits? Or are they just crazy owners and/or bleeding heart activists?", "it's not", "Williams-Beuren syndrome- a chunk of DNA is missing, and the person become ultra-friendly, like a golden retriever.", "Stating facts is not an insult. You're showing, over and over again, your capacity for reasoned debate. I'm sorry to share the planet with people who behave like you.", "Ours has the head lowered herding stance. Basically giving the ball a death stare. She will not break concentration even if you held the ball for an hour. Just insane concentration.", "Geeze. I can't read his history, it's too much. \n\nPoor fellow. Hope he found solace.", "Seals have round heads, pitbulls have blocky heads.", "In [every country on the planet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breed-specific_legislation)? Are you saying there's a global conspiracy against pit bulls?", "Thats a really neat story, thanks for expanding on it", "A chihuahua sized pitbull...So a land-piranha.", "Google “fatal golden retriever attack.” Then Google “fatal pitbull attack.” You’re welcome.", ">Going immediately to personal attacks is trashy and shows you know you’re in the wrong.\n\nYou had no problem doing the same when you call others trash. My comment had a point. It's not my fault you're too dim to understand it. But please, go back to calling for the killing of an entire breed of dog because you're a coward.", "People can be really passionate about this. But what would you rather be bit by; a Bassett hound or a pitbull?", "Did you watch the video? They address this question with statistics in the last third of it.", ">They would be best off if every pitbull was spayed/neutered and the breed was allowed to die out. \n\nIf this is so obvious there should tons of research and organisations advocating for it, and you wouldn't have to spam misleading dog death statistics to appeal to emotion.", "You absolutely can identify an Amstaff or APBT, though depending on the test, you might not be able to differentiate between the two.", "You’re right. I don’t need to have one. That’s the beauty of freedom, I don’t have to give a shit about whether I need it or not. I don’t have to give a shit about whether they’re useful or not (and they are useful, they’re great guard dogs.) I want a pitbull and I’m free to have a pitbull if I want one.", "Yeah theyre more fatal when they do attack that doesnt mean they will. \nJust like how great white sharks are deadlier when they do attack not that they're more aggressive", "They just want to murder you a little bit.", "Is there a single instance of BSL where the government went door to door rounding up pitbulls to euthanize? Who gives a shit what perennially online nuts say, try to engage with people who are actually looking for a constructive solution.", "Uh, shelters are incentivized to not label dogs as pits. More likely to get the dog adopted if it is not thought to be a pit.", "I am literally showing you that tons of research. I and many other organizations do advocate for this. Many countries, cities and towns have either banned or put severe restrictions on the ownership of these dogs.", "That’s definitely a dog specific thing. Some dogs are nervous, shy or awkward and some are extremely outgoing just like children. The biggest impact on this is socialization in early puppyhood and the owner’s mannerisms/body language in social instances. \n\nI know pitts that want to play with any and every dog and have never attacked another dog even when another attacks them first. I also know goldens and poodles that hide behind their owner when another dog approaches and will get territorial. But yes pitts definitely need motivated and experienced owners to make sure they do not develop bad behavior and habits.", "I have a three year old son and a two month old baby girl, I cannot even imagine the horror that these victims of pitbull attacks have gone through. Pitbulls need to be banned, or at the very least, regulated. It feels like every other day I see a news article about a child or family that’s been attacked by a pitbull.", "If a dog is bred to be aggressive, poses a significant threat to human life should it be aggressive, and is statistically proven to have killed more humans than any other breed... I think we should probably do something about it?\n\nI'm not saying that people should lose their family pets, but maybe consider legislature that makes breeding them and buying them illegal, so the numbers drop off over the course of a decade.", "Are you a bot? Or just unable to read/think?", "Would you like me to source the NZ bite statistics?\n\nSmall country, good stats collection, enough of a base to be pretty accurate. \n\nPitbulls are actually under-represented, as a breed, because you can't breed them in NZ, and dogs there are \"legacy\".\n\nThe stats are the same as everywhere else. Tiny number of pitbulls, most injuries from dogbites.\n\nAre they the bitiest breed in the world? IMO, no - only because I've met too many chihuahuas. But a chihuahua can make a mess of a finger, a pitbull can rip an arm off. For mine, that's the problem. They are bred to take on other animals in fights. So when they bite, it does disproportionate damage.", "Yikes.", "A lot of my classmates who failed the bar enjoy great professional success, while a lot of classmates who passed are now selling insurance. We've known for a while now that there's little correlation between bar passage and advocate efficacy. Bar exam needs wholesale change.", "Yeah that makes sense. More so the capacity for harm is the biggest factor. So frustrating trying to have an intelligent conversation with these people who claim its completely false and made up.", "I’m pretty sure vulnerable families mean families with young children. Blame the adults all you want but it’s not a 4 year olds fault they get mauled by a pit bull. Which I guess does agree with that parents need to fucking make sure those dogs aren’t dangerous before they bring them into a house with children… but the children are absolutely vulnerable", "Way to win hearts, there, dude!", "Pitbull advocacy is such an unholy matrimony of “anti-breed discrimination” progressives and “muh personal rights” small government conservatives.", "Someone always says this in the nextdoor app when this topic comes up. Pitnutter propaganda at it's finest.", "It's entirely environment, and Pit Bulls happen to be the pet of choice for most of the menaces of society. Turns out that the dogs who have been bread to fight until death for 100 years by lower-class Americans aren't like normal dogs! So there's that.", "Then why this whole song and dance, just show how those restrictions improve the situation and skip all the spamming of stats.", "“I’m more likely to get a paper cut than accidentally dismember myself with a power saw, so it means books are more dangerous than power saws.”", "Says the one that refuses to read the statistics.", "After Aurora, Colorado adopted a pit bull ban ordinance in 2005, attacks by pit bulls decreased 73% (from 2005 to 2014). After Pawtucket, Rhode Island adopted a pit bull ban in 2004, the city released 13 years of bite data showing that in the 4 years leading up to the ban, there were 52 pit bull attacks on people. In the 10 years after the ban, there were only 13. After the city was forced to lift its longstanding ban in late 2013, pit bull bites increased by over a ten-fold in just 5 years.", "Being responsible for two thirds of dog attacks in America while only being 6% of the dog population makes them predisposed towards violence more than any other breed. Do you really even have to ask?", "There's no winning with these people to begin with. They won't be happy til every pit bull is dead. It's sick.", "Ok, but imagine if it was in a cartoon and not real life. Dog probably thought he was being a hero.", "he didn't forget that, it was prediction 3", "As I said earlier, I will give like I get. In that vein: go fuck yourself you sanctimonious prick.\n\nA reasoned debate only occurs when both sides are open-minded and willing to listen to each other. That is obviously not the case here with all the hateful bias, so there is no need for me to demonstrate it either. Ffs, the first comment I responded to said all dogs of all breeds just want to love people, except for pit bulls which want to hurt them. *That’s* “reasoned debate?” Lmmfao. Give like you get.\n\nAgain, get fucked prick, and maybe review your understanding of the word “fact”, “kind” and “reasonable” you fucking idiot hypocrite.", "I’m no fan of big dogs, but the statistics just don’t warrant such a reaction.\n\nAround 50 people die and 5 to 6,000 go to the hospital every year from dog bites. That just isn’t a issue in the grand scheme.\n\nYou have more people killed from gun homicide in 3 days than all dog breeds kill in one year.\n\nWould I ever get one? Absolutely not, but the numbers don’t support the proposed responses.", "You posted a link that has nothing to do with what the person said, and then when they explained that they were talking about something completely separate, you posted more irrelevant links. But I guess if you want to make up an imaginary person to argue with and then respond to them instead of the person you’re replying to, that’s fine. \n\nDon’t know how I “refuse to read the statistics” when I’ve said literally nothing to you about them, but ok.", "Then why engage. If all you can do is come in completely combatively, and start insulting people - and you're aware yourself you're not going to change any opinions, why even start?\n\nYou're giving away any chance for a reasoned discussion, the second you start using, frankly, bigoted language.\n\n(\"These people\", in case you didn't know what I was talking about).", "I would argue after some set period, the dog gets euthanized if not neutered. That way it, it will have some teeth force people to get their dogs neutered.\n\nOtherwise this will be an honor system like a dog licences. Only the good citizens will bother to obey, and the rest will just ignore it, and chance not getting caught.", ">I don't think anyone is advocating coming into your home and killing your pet\n\nI was responding to this portion of the above persons comment. I made no claim as to government action, i only responded to the direct claim that nobody was advocating entering homes and killing family pets.", "I have a logical proof that agression in canines is genetic: In the process of \"domesticating\" wolves into the dog's we know today, we selectively bred out agression. If something is able to be bread out, it is a gene. There's no reason that a certain breed of dogs couldn't genetically be more aggressive than another. Anyone defending Pitbull has never owned one and had them around other dogs. Anecdotally, its been a nightmare.", "He was insulting people before I engaged him. And, as I said, they don't want a reasoned discussion. They start from a stance of \"kill them all\" and that is not the basis for a reasonable discussion.", "Yeah can't have anything to do with running a puppy mill or not socializing his 'stud' instead opting to cage it next to free roaming dogs. Turns out when you treat animals like shit bad shit happens.", "No, I am posting statistics. Notice I'm the only one posting actual data on these dogs.", "Neither dog is more dangerous. It all depends on the individual dog's training from their birth. This idea of their breeding making them savage makes no sense when u realize every other dog breed is incredibly similar.", "Anti pit bull activists should adopt them and destroy them themselves. To help the cause.", "THIS PERSON WASN’T TALKING ABOUT BITE STATISTICS. Your comment, regardless of the INFORMATION it contained, HAD NOTHING TO DO with the parent comment. Do you understand?", "You lived up to your username", "The issue with pits is that some people don’t make the difference between aggressiveness and dangerousness, which are two very different notions. Yes, some pits are well trained and will never show signs of hostility towards their owners, but the issue remains that if it does at some point, it will be far more dangerous than any other breed, as they are powerful enough to maul people to death. So the question of training and personality of those dogs actually don’t matter much in that debate, trained or not they are capable of great danger hence the regulations.", "I have a neo mastiff second hardest bite of all dog. Is she gentle as with small children and cats ? Yes. \n\nJust because a dog has strength doesn’t mean it will use it.", "Except they were primary a game / hunting dog. You know back when people actually provided their own food for themselves. Just because society and technology has changed in the last 150 years we just kill them all do we ?? \n\nShould kill all horses too by that logic we don’t need them anymore.", "This submission no longer shows up in /r/videos. Kinda sus", "What breed is used for dogfighting in the US then? What dogs was Michael Vick caught using for fighting?", "I know you think you’re a genius but dogs and humans are different, ey?", "You’re retarded I’m sorry. But that big rant about never owning a dog that you have to worry introducing around other dogs just funny. \n\nFun dog fact for you buddy. Not all dogs are going to get along nor should they and the human thought that this is what dogs should be like is comical. Any dog physiologist / behaviouralist even vet will\nTell you the same damn thing. \n\n\nRemember it’s cute and funny when a chihuahua flips full Satan mode behind a fence and no one bats an eye then.", "Right... I don't think I'm sufficiently explaining myself.\n\nThe APBT, a breed recognized in the UK, can be genetic tested, because it is a classically bred breed. A mix of terriers.\n\nThe actual American Pit Bull, something not recognized as a breed, cannot be accurately tested for because it is NOT a breed. It is a characteristic profile bred by the American dog fighting industry.\n\nEven if you genetic tested every dog retrieved from fighting rings, you wouldn't be able to develop an accurate test. The DNA profile will differ based on location, and job. Bait dogs (dogs that will fight, but not well enough to harm the fighters) will have a different profile than fighting dogs, who will have a different profile than breeding females.\n\nWith American Pit Bulls (Not UK American Pit Bull Terriers), you will see a mix of \"Bull and terrier\" (an extinct breed), Old English Bulldog, Old English Terrier, Rottweiler, German Shephard Dog, Akita, Dobberman, and more. However, the exact mix is not something you can pin down, because each 'breeder' would have their own brand of fighting dog.\n\nWhat you CAN do is look at the profile of the dog.\n\nLarge body\n\nLow center of gravity\n\nLarge head\n\nShort nose\n\nThick Neck\n\nShort hair\n\nYou know why these dogs are built this way? For fighting.", "How about watch the video and maybe try accepting the facts about this breed of dog instead of just being a douche.", "My 12 year old Goldendoodle is also extremely intelligent. Went through 3 baby gates until we found one that he can't get past. The 1 year old one is a different story, she's as sharp as a marble.", "You're doing it again. Saying what \"they\" say, and then attacking it. Replace \"them\" with something like \"Jews\" and you'll see what I mean.\n\nPersonally, I've been loosely involved with training dogs (for SAR) for 30 years. I wouldn't call myself an expert, but am fairly knowledgeable.\n\nPitbulls are banned in my country - along with Dogos Argentinos, The Fila, the Tosa from Japan, and the Perro de presa Canario.\n\nAnd I'm perfectly comfortable with that. From my own research, Pitbulls in particular, in New Zealand, are vastly over-represented in bite statistics- and as a pitbull has to be registered as such, we can be fairly certain we have got \"what is a pitbull\" right, to address your point about animal control and hysterical people.\n\nWe also have a category of \"dangerous dogs\" - dogs that have exhibited aggression (individual dogs, this is) and have special rules around them. Guess which breed is over-represented there, too?\n\nPersonally, I believe that anyone that has a pitbull in a house with a toddler is running too much of a risk. In the same way you wouldn't have your toddler in a horse's loose-box. If something happens, it's likely to be fatal. \n\nIs the same true of other dogs? Yes. But it's not solely a size thing, it's a \"what are they bred for\" thing. \n\nHerding dogs? Knock yourselves out. Corgis are feisty little bastards, but the instinct is to nip, not attack. Breeds bred for aggression and fighting ability? No thank you.", "That’s because their owners are lunkheads. Would you listen to a lunkhead?\n\nDogs reflect their owners.", "> Mis-identify pit bull breeds when put through identification tests. And a lot of the times they couldn’t even agree with each other on the breed. This has resulted in pretty much any attack involving a dog with a short brindle coat as being labeled as a pit attack.\n\nAnd in NZ, the breed of the dog is registered. That registration is got from the OWNER OF THE DOG.\n\nGuess which dogs are STILL massively overrepresented in bite statistics? That argument may fly in the US, but not here.", "Yes i understand. I saw that post as well im not saying pits are good dogs to have im just saying the total shift in opinion was wonky not that it was unwarranted", "There was literally a commenter below who said all pitbulls should be rounded up and banned", "Who said they aren’t used for fighting? The OP was talking about the breed’s **history**. Is Michael Vick hundreds of years old and a dog breeder? How do you have any conversations in real life without possessing literally any reading comprehension? Bizarre.", "This conversation being centered around the breed rather than around the owner is the problem though, it’s demonizing innocent dogs and could cause your coworker to lose her “sweet as pie” babies because of BSL.", "All i know is, if your pitbull breaks loose out of your yard, or your hands and bites my dog while we r on the sidewalk or a park, I'm going to stab it with my pocket knife UNTIL it stops biting my dog. \n\nI think pitbulls, thanks to shitty humans, are more likely to be bad, by nurture not by nature. So I'm definitely more cautious when walking by houses with pitbulls. \n\nThinking an entire species of dog is evil by nature is illogical, but so is throwing caution into the wind when it comes to the #1 choice fighting dog species on the planet.\n\nBoth sides are on the extreme and neither side is right. If those pitbull lovers really give a shit, they would organize and go after people abusing and fighting dogs. But that would be actually hard work. \n\nBoth sides want to shape the outcome in favor of the perspective that fits best with their life experiences. No one wants to or is able to do the actual dirty work that matters. \n\nAlso no kill is the stupidest thing i have heard. Hate to say it, but there are bound to be dogs too fucked up to be rehomed after the cruelty they have seen by previous owners. Saying \"no no no we must re-home every single dog, at all costs\" is begging for trouble. For some of these dogs that were bred, raised and lived to fight, who know nothing but to fight other dogs and see pain at human hands, the kind thing to do is put them out of their misery in a pain-free way and stop passing on their genes.\n\nYes, the truth often sucks and is unsatisfactory.", "If you don’t know the dog you’re an idiot to send them into either yard.", "They are incredibly smart dogs. My Labradoodle does a lot of those same things. Last night she kept walking past me and going to the other room, did it a few times before I went to see what was up; her water was empty. A few days ago she dragged her empty water dish to me. That makes me sound negligent but she has a splash proof water dish that is hard to see if it is empty at a quick glance, we fill it up a few times a day.", "A lot of sick people in here jumping on the “save the children” bandwagon like it’s not the oldest propaganda trick in the book. You’re right, they don’t work with dogs, they don’t work with communities or with owners, it’s arm chair activist at its finest and it’s literally harmful. I luckily live somewhere that is unlikely to ever ban pits (thank god) but I worry for other peoples pups when this rhetoric becomes mainstream.", "Replace pit bull with blacks and bites / attacks with crimes. Oh look! You support ethnic cleansing.", "That's a good thought experiment.", "Yeah not going to believe data from a website called “dogsbite.org”", "Thank you.", "This is precisely what makes it a bad “exercise” It begs the question. \n\nThe participant has to assume both dogs will attack, and so it hides the question of “which dog is more capable of killing your kid?” Behind the veneer of “which is a “safer” dog breed?” \n\nTLDR: It’s horse shit :)", ">Her sister said the dog had previously shown signs of aggression.\n\n>“My sister has the biggest heart for animals and just couldn’t get rid of it. … Her heart was too big, and they thought they could fix him,” Shannon said.\n\nMy husband's comment: You either save pit bulls or raise a child. Don't try to do both.", "Yeah, dogs aren't people. Going to have to come up with something a bit less racist than that, I'm afraid.\n\n(That's a REALLY bigoted argument, incidentally - you're directly associating a skin colour with being an animal).\n\nEdit: Is that a \"reasonable discussion\" at your end. Fuck ME!", "American Staffordshire Terriers i.e. pitbulls were brought over from europe for bull baiting. As that died out dog fighting became the dominant use of the dogs until it lost favor in the 1930s.", "I just realized we're arguing for the same side. Fuck you anyway though... X-D", "They were a fighting dog", "You said something that actually has to do with the argument, awesome job! Now post that in reply to the original comment. I have no stake in this.", ">Yeah, dogs aren't people. Going to have to come up with something a bit less racist than that, I'm afraid.\n\nIf you thought I was being racist you must be on drugs. You're calling for the killing of an entire breed of animal for individual incidents. The same way racists call for ethnic cleansing of ethnic people for individual acts.\n\nYour excuse is it's in the dog's nature. What the fuck do you think a racist's excuse is?", "How are you going to ask for an intelligent discussion and then act like a retard", "Sure babe, you have no stake in this. Though you seem awfully invested.", "Same goes for mutant cats. They're being bread for hairlessness, dwarfism, cartilage problems, spinal defects, and/or flat faces and bulging eyes. This isn't even cute or pretty. And it's the vanity of buyers that's driving it.", "Guns need a person to act bad. Pit bulls can act badly on their own without a person. Wouldn’t you logically be more afraid of a dangerous animal than a dangerous object?", "In what way is an unrealistic hypothetical a flaw in a thought experiment?", "anddd it's gone, mods removed the post. which is insanely ironic as this could actually save someone from getting hurt.", "The UKC (one of two American Kennel clubs) recognizes the American Pitbull Terrier, APBT. The AKC (the popular American kennel club) recognizes the sister breed, American Staffordshire Terrier, Amstaff.\n\nMost dog fighting rings do use pure breds, but more likely to use mixes. The most common parent breed is some version of Pitbull. After that, probably Cane Corsos. Regardless, you can test the ancestry of a dog.", "Literally my whole string of comments with you is about the RELEVANCE of your argument and not the content. That’s what I was arguing about. I made no arguments about dogs whatsoever. I don’t care about the history of pit bulls, I care about you realizing that your response made no sense. How fucking dense can you be?", "For everybody who is saying this is propaganda I’m genuinely curious: Why would there be a misinformation campaign surrounding a breed of dog? Who benefits from that? Is BIG Labradoodle severely trying to lower the pit bull demand? Legitimently curious", "English Bulldogs were originally bred to fight in the \"sport\" of bullbaiting. Over the years, they've had the aggression bred out of them. Pit bulls have not.", "Stick to insulting me big boy, that'll work I'm sure.", "/u/Rusholme_and_P did you get a reason as to why the mods removed this post from /r/videos? ironic, as this could actually save someone from getting hurt", "Sure, ignore what I actually said. Your specialty.", "Let me put it a different way.\n\n[Pit Bull](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull) =/= [American Pitbull Terrier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pit_Bull_Terrier)\n\nPit Bull, is a description, not a breed. Kinda like how \"Assault Rifle\" is not a specific gun, it's a style of firearm.", "**[Pit bull](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull)** \n \n >Pit bull is a term used in the United States for a type of dog descended from bulldogs and terriers, while in other countries such as the United Kingdom the term is used as an abbreviation of the American Pit Bull Terrier breed. The term was first used in 1927. Within the United States the pit bull is usually considered a heterogeneous grouping that includes the breeds American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and occasionally the American Bulldog, along with any crossbred dog that shares certain physical characteristics with these breeds.\n \n**[American Pit Bull Terrier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pit_Bull_Terrier)** \n \n >The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) is a dog breed recognized by the United Kennel Club (UKC) and the American Dog Breeders Association (ADBA), but not the American Kennel Club (AKC). It is a medium-sized, intelligent, short-haired dog, of a solid build, whose early ancestors came from the British Isles. When compared with the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier, the American Pit Bull Terrier is larger by margins of 6–8 inches (15–20 cm) in height and 25–35 pounds (11–16 kg) in weight.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "Someone on Twitter a few months ago posted a long, heartfelt story about having to euthanize an adopted dog after they were lied to about its temperament. \n\nThe dog had bitten her and her boyfriend *over fourteen times* in just *three months*. Not nips either. Bites that sent them to the ER.\n\nBoth people were experienced with bloodhounds, and each bite had no warning signs. The dog went from tail wagging to clamping down in an instant. \n\nThey took her from trainer to vet and from vet to trainer for months and realized that the dog's only options were a miserable life kept indoors and away from other dogs and other people forever, or a peaceful, dignified death. \n\nTwitter tore them APART! People were calling her every name in the book, saying she was clearly an evil monster who got a sick thrill out of murdering the dog she had spent thousands of dollars on, and whom she was very clearly still mourning. \n\nPeople do not understand that behavioral euthanasia is a public health issue. It's sad to think of a healthy-looking dog being put to sleep, but sadder to think of the misery and stress that dog must be experiencing every day to react like that. And sadder still to think of the innocent people- mostly children- who get mauled by dogs every year because the owners won't take responsibility.", "I wasn’t making any value judgments either. How can it be wonky if it wasn’t unwarranted? People are reactionary.", "Oh man... that lady who was the babysitter... you can tell she's absolutely haunted by it, poor thing. I hope she finds peace through her mission.", "> You're calling for the killing of an entire breed of animal for individual incidents.\n\nHave I said that? NO. Stop being a bigot.\n\ni've said that I'm comfortable with them being banned in my country. It won't ever happen in the States, but that's their issue, not mine. So take your assumptions, and shove them.\n\nAnd you WERE racist. You were directly comparing black people with dogs, and implying that black people have no more control over committing crimes than dogs too about biting. That it's entirely instinct and innate, and training.\n\nThat's as racist AS FUCK.\n\nLike, crosses on the lawn, Jim Crow laws racist.", "100%? Did I say that - oh well (it was a qualified statement, BTW) - anyway - I'll try to defend it, because I feel like talking ... with meat - he forgets himself - and lunges - but to date - has always checked himself. So - he's still 100% soft mouth. It's still unnerving though - to have him lose it (he's always such a calm little beast) and lunge a little for a meaty treat. Even though you come away unscathed - But - Most of the time - I remember - and handle him more deferentially - when it's red meat. Making sure he's focused on the gentler social aspects of the transaction - before proceeding. Or toss it and watch him snatch it in mid air.", "Because lethal pitbull attacks happen teice a month every month for literal decades what changed?", "Keep lying to yourself as you goose step with the other blood thirsty fascists, you worthless fuck.", "The trend is short haired medium sized dogs block heads. Most the attacks are listed is mix, or pitbull type dog.\n\nMost of these dogs if genetically tested would be under 50% “pitbull”\n\nThe problem is anytime a short haired medium sized dog attacks people like to attach “pitbull” to it.\n\nLook I’m not saying pitbull type dogs can’t be dangerous, but that is no different than Shepard’s, Rottweilers, Doberman’s, huskies etc. All posses the ability to cause horrific damage and death.", "An insult from you, Grand Wizard, is a badge of honour. \n\nI now know I'm doing the right thing.\n\nMake sure and launder your hood, before the next meeting.", "I think there are more levels to the objections. I own an English Staffy (the ones that are actually nicknamed nanny dogs, pitbulls are not).\n\nDogs that historically were bred for dog fighting have spent about as long being bred away from those instincts as being bred for them.\n\nDogs bred for fighting were (historically) trained/bred to not be aggressive towards humans. \n\nNone of my points apply to pitbulls yet they are all painted with the same brush by people that can't tell physically similar breeds apart.\n\nThere are also issues with people calling pitbulls nanny dogs, refusing to realize that nurture plays just a big of a part as nature (a dog trained to be aggressive will always be a problem) and not know the difference between a Bully/Pitbull/AmStaff/Staffy.\n\nSorry for the rambling, just some quickly jotted down thoughts.", "It’s flawed because OP wasn’t doing a thought exercise for the sake of doing a thought exercise. OP was doing a thought exercise to try and prove a point. You can’t prove a point about real life by using an unrealistic hypothetical that would never happen in real life. All OP did was create a discriminatory hypothetical that fit their narrative. Change the dogs to people and the breed to something like race/religion/social class/sexuality and you’ll see how terrible OPs “thought exercise” is", "Some people like to put their emotional unbalance out on full display.", "That is adorable.", "Projection isn't a healthy coping mechanism. Maybe your fuhrer has taught you wrong.", "A good way to avoid even getting to this apologist bingo point is by using the phrasing \"Pit Bull type dogs\" as opposed to Pit Bulls. However, you can also just explain that \"Pit Bull\" is an umbrella term for four closely related dog breeds- the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and the American Bully. The American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier are actually so similar they can be dual registered as an AmStaff with the AKC and a APBT with the UKC. Until recently, most dog DNA tests would not even separate AmStaff from APBT due to the extreme similarities. This is also just another deflection technique- everyone knows what someone means by \"Pit Bull\" just as everyone knows what someone means by \"Golden Retriever.\" This is what \"pit bull\" means [legally](https://definitions.uslegal.com/p/pit-bull/).\nNow, because \"Pit Bull\" does refer to 4 dog breeds rather than one, Pit apologists will often cry \"well of course 4 dog breeds will kill more people!\" but keep in mind that these 4 dog breeds have killed more people than 300+ other dog breeds combined. The Pit Bull umbrella kills more people than every other group or type of dogs and more than every other dog breed combined.", ">If a bear attacks a human in the wild and kills it well we must track down and kill it for being a bear in the wild.\n\nNo, it's killed (euthanized, not ripped limb from limb) because it has shown the willingness to kill. Bears that don't bother people are left alone for the most part.", "Even if that was true at one point, that’s 150 years straight of breeding to be fearless and vicious. They have changed along with many other breeds. Unfortunately for them they were bred to be gladiators", "What IS the rank about Grand Wizard. I figure you'd know.\n\nAnd I tried to have a reasoned discussion with you. I had citations, I had statistics. I even had a site with drill-down stats, so you could try some different combinations, to see if you could get one to satisfy your argument.\n\nWhen I pointed out that you were not engaging, and being a bigot, I got the first insult. Your idea of a reasoned argument was the most racist thing I've seen posted publicly in about 3 months.\n\nAnd now you're playing the Nazi game.\n\nI mean this REALLY respectfully, and honestly. You have issues you need to deal with, this amount of hate and anger isn't either normal or healthy. You can, of course interpret this as an insult, but it genuinely comes from a place of altruism.", "I’m not referring to those 4 breeds, I referring to the boxer/lab/Rottweiler mix that at a quick glance looks like a “pitbull type dog”. \n\nVisual identification is useless a lot is the time becuauze when you get mixed they are some combination of lab/Rottweiler/boxer/bulldog/pitbull etc they just get lumped in a Pitbull type dog even though they maybe genetically zero % or less 25% pitbull.", "No definitely not a reputable breeder but they bad all the papers for the dogs so I rolled the dice. They had both the parents there who were very friendly and sweet pitbulls. Shes a blue nose pit, she's very playfull and loves people theres just certain quirks she has where I can tell if unchecked could potentially become an issue as she grows", "But not recognizing the valid points is just as ineffective. As someone else commented, they need to make breeding illegal, require fixing in order to own the dog and eventually bring down the numbers. BSL is an attempt to regulate bad owners, which are part of the problem, the other part is a breed that was born to be aggressive and powerful that can deadly, even with good owners. There are plenty of stories out there.", "She definitely is a stocky strong pitty thats for sure. She's a sweetheart just requires much more tentative training then any dog I've raised", "\"We found out just how well Richmond SPCA staff did in visually identifying dogs likely to have Staffordshire terrier, American Staffordshire terrier or American bulldog as at least 25% of their breed make-up. Out of the 91 dogs, only 4 dogs had none of these breeds in their DNA, and 57% had one of those breeds as the primary breed.\"\n\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20171018182417/http://www.aspcapro.org/blog/2013/09/25/bully-%E2%80%94-results-are-%E2%80%A6\n\nPit Bulls have just as many obvious identifying characteristics as other dog breeds. There is no reason to believe Pit Bulls suffer from misidentification more than other dog breeds. There is reason to believe Pit Bulls are intentionally mislabeled as other breeds when in shelters, however. In addition, when discussing fatal Pit Bull attacks specifically, more often than not there are photos of the Pit Bulls involved so anyone can verify for themselves if they were Pit Bull type dogs. Genetic testing is not required for breed identification- anyone who argues this is being disingenuous.", "Absolutely. I've put so much time and effort to redirect her attention to me when she hyper focuses on another dog or something else. \n\nCertain dogs just require much more training then other breeds and a lot of people don't want to take the time to train them because they don't want to put in the effort", "Really curious for those of you who are ready to go on a crusade against pitbulls, you ever work in a pound? Give me all the drummed up stats you want, but I've seen more people bit by labs and golden retrievers. Yet for some reason, pit bulls get the \"killing machine\" designation. Many other types of dogs have similar jaw structures, many other types of dogs have been bred for fighting, many other types of dogs can lock their jaw. Please stop using blind stats rage to justify your shit uneducated opinions.", "OP wasn't proving a point, they were *making* a point, which is quite clear. \n\nYou're pulling the trick as old as time. In absence of a real argument, you attack the rhetoric.", "Haha you're not wrong on the map part, that's for damn sure. I might be mistaken, but millions of people in this country voted for Trump twice... I think we are higher than 15% who wouldn't hold Nordic countries in high regard.", "Thank God anecdotes are the highest form of scientific research", "My own kitty was found on the side of the road one chilly evening…a skinny black lil’ kitty with big years that made her look like a bat, with a loud purring motor. You couldn’t find a more intelligent, affectionate cat.", "Kudos to you for being so well informed. Strange that its so hard for you to understand that it takes a sensational story \\[\"man bites dog\" seems weak next to \"DOG LITERALLY RIPS MOTHERS ARMS OFF\"\\] to launch these things into a public forum. Let me introduce you to the forest, you seem well acquainted with the trees.", "Of course not, but you are well ahead of the US with social welfare programs (who isn't) which is why the left likes to look at you. US can't afford that stuff either, for what it is worth... Or food, or healthcare, or education, or housing :( for how advanced society is, you'd think we could easily solve these issues. But alas, the elites need more and more luxuries while the poor stay in the streets. Hope you and yours are well and stay well, and happy holidays to you!", "The article is not good scientific process consider that they lump “American bulldog” in. So Chance from homeward bound is a super dangerous dog. \n\nThis is what I mean an American Bulldog is a completely separate breed but being lumped in with pitbull type dogs.", "Less than half the country voted in 2016. Of that less than 50%, 33% Voted for Trump.\n\nLets say 45% of the country voted, 33% of 45 is 14.85. I could be wrong, the application of maths was never one of my strengths, but I believe that how it worked out.", "I have had 6 pitbulls in my life and they all have been absolutely wonderful dogs.", "So, I’m going to try and have a civil conversation with you about this. You’re missing a very important point that u/parklawns mentioned, even if vaguely. Their uncle said, very much on-point that: \n \n> You could train them all you want, but you’re playing a certain amount of Russian roulette with this breed… \n \nAre you familiar with Russian roulette? Just a quick explanation in case you or someone else doesn’t know what it’s about: It’s a game where you point and pull the trigger of gun to your head which has a bullet in one chamber while the other five are empty. You don’t know which is which, so there’s a chance you will die. \n \nYou ask if we believe pitbulls are psychos. Thing is, some of them probably are. There’s evidence of psychopathic behavior in animals, specially when they are made to live differently to what they’ve evolved to. Given that pitbulls were literally bred to fight, not making them fight could result in at least some of them showing psychopathic behavior. But take that as a fun fact. Something tells me you weren’t literally asking. \n \nSo, statistics. It seems very appropriate to compare pitbulls to Russian roulette because, with enough luck, you could play Russian roulette until the day you die of natural causes without ever shooting yourself with the gun. Comparing pitbulls to Russian roulette is about the gun having a bullet loaded in it, and thus being capable of lethally damaging you. It doesn’t mean it necessarily will, but it’s a strong possibility. I’m sure there’s people who have had pitbulls for their entire life with no incident, same as there’s been people who’ve survived playing Russian roulette as many times as they have tried it. That doesn’t mean nothing’s ever going to happen. It just means they’ve been lucky so far. By the way, I hope you realize we don’t mean pitbulls are an exact analogy to Russian roulette. I mean, we don’t think it’s a 1/6 chance a pitbull will attack you. That would be silly. But wether it’s 1/6 or 1/6,000, the danger is there. \n \nIt strikes me as cynical that you talk about “the stud”, arguing it killed the other dogs because it was given every possible negative factor. So you’re telling me pitbulls do have negative factors, just not ALL of them? Or maybe they do have ALL of them but not equally as present in every one single pitbull? \n \nI’m kind of with you in what you said next. We should totally stop breeding, but not those “perfect” dogs you speak of. We should stop breeding pitbulls altogether.", "Ban pitbulls", "I see this brings anger in you, and I'm sorry to hear that, but one doesn't need to know what's going on in their dogs head, just as I don't know what's going on in my son's. Do I put a leash on him? he's more disposed to running off than my dog is. My dog wears a muzzle, and in the thousands of walks, all without leash, I've never had a situation in which i needed a leash. not from a cyclist, car, skateboarder, other dog, or other person. Why would I suddenly one day put a leash on her? because someone on reddit got angry? She wears a muzzle so that she can play without me having to watch her, but even then, she has never had any issues with heel or recall.\n\nA leash is a tool that should be to help you guide your dog, not as a physical restraint. If you need to use a leash to restrain your dog, you have fundamental communication issues that need to be resolved, and you failing to understand that, along with your terrible comparison only further emphasizes your ignorance. My dog is not hard of hearing, and we use hand signals with every command. When the time comes in which she might need a leash because she becomes deaf, or blind, perhaps I'll use one. as-is, there is no issue. You know nothing about dogs and here you are, arguing with strangers on the internet and insulting them. Bravo.", "I give you *one* guess which one starts screaming about pit bulls being canceled.", "Well said.", "Pits are no more or less inherently violent than any other dog breed bred with the intention that it would fight or protect. German Shepards can go crazy, Rottweilers can go nuts, poodles can snap, basically any mastiff can lose it’s shit, this is not a pit exclusive trait or possibility. My aunt had a white German shepherd that went completely insane and attacked anyone that got within 5’ of it in their home, including *her*. My cousin, daughter of same aunt, has raised a Cane Corso since a baby but it was still so extremely nasty to anyone that came over her house that he had to be kept upstairs until they finally got him fixed later in his life. \n\n*Any* animal is capable of dangerous and destructive behaviour, don’t act like this is some Pitbull exclusive threat to society. When you raise your dogs like shit, don’t train them, use them as a cash cow instead of a fucking pet, or breed them over so many times so you can sell “purebreds” then of course the dog is gonna be fucked up because the owner is too. \n\nAnd as for the “negative factor” comment. What I meant is that in order to get these 100% purebred dogs with the exact ear shape, exact size, exact colouring, exact coat consistency, exact texture, exact markings, exact whatever the fuck else the assholes in charge of the bougie ass moron laden shit hole kennel clubs think it takes for a dog to be exactly right “for that breed” you’re going to have to breed and breed and breed and breed and *breed* your dogs over and over until you get one that has one or more of those “correct” qualities. Then you do it again and again and again until you get one with one or two more “correct” qualities. Then again and again and again as naseum until you get the aforementioned “perfect dog”. \n\n Also then the biggest issue with this problem comes from the fact that in order to get these “correct” qualities for the breed is that you have to breed these dogs with littermates or at least other dogs with the same parentage. This leads to tons of mental issues stemming from the inbreeding as well as the dog(s) being [overbred](https://insurance-edge.net/2020/07/10/overbreeding-is-causing-health-problems-for-pets-vets-call-for-action/) which then in turn causes issues like the ones mentioned earlier. \n\nThis is *not* exclusively a pitbull issue and it is frankly ridiculous to say as much and seriously detracts from the harm and real danger that breeding as a for profit industry or for dog show victories causes in our world. You’re blaming the gun for being fired, when it was the person that pulled the trigger.", "Thing is they actually are more inherently violent. As for other breeds, sure! there’s got to be other relatively dangerous breeds, not saying only pitbulls ever attack. That would also be a silly thing to say. Please check [this](https://topdogtips.com/statistics-on-dog-bites/) out. It breaks down dog attacks by breed in 2021. There’s 19 breeds in the study, and pitbulls are a far and distant first place in that list accounting for more attacks than the other 18 breeds COMBINED. Theres some other sources that confirm this information you can easily find if you’re willing to Google some stuff for a few minutes. \n \nLook, I swear to you I love dogs. I have nothing against pitbulls as living, sentient beings but I will insist it’s not a suitable breed to have as a pet based on evidence. \n \nLastly, I agree that kind of selective breeding is harmful to dogs. I really hate seeing pugs and bulldogs, for example, with all their health issues just to make them look “better”, whatever that means.", "Make/prove a point is the same thing, so it’s ironic you’re saying I’m attacking rhetoric. I’m not pulling any tricks, OP just used a flawed hypothetical that was upvoted by others that were unable to see the flaws in his hypothetical", "Do you think those that didn't vote wouldn't also lean one way or the other? That means we have confirmation on at least that many. Polling and statistics would suggest you can extrapolate roughly those same numbers across the population of the nation. There are, of course, factors that could sway things one way or the other over the full course of the population (voter suppression, having to work during polling hours, neither candidate was favorable etc.) But it's pretty fair to say a sizable portion of this nation would fall in line with how the votes went down, particularly across two elections.", "They are retroactive abortion machines.", "> There are a lot of bull breeds who have had generations sepersting them from agressive traits as well.\n\nAlso, the more aggressive ones are a lot more likely to get euthanized -- i.e., not even get the chance to make it out of the city pound and into the \"rescue\" circuit. I don't know how that compares to the centuries of bad breeding that grew out of bull-baiting and dogfighting but weeding out the extra-aggressive probably has some effect.", "Could you cite the data that supports your statement that fatal bites reduce following breed bans? I can cite that serious bites (i.e. hospitalisations and disability following bites) don't decrease following BSL being implemented but can find no data to support your statement.\n\nOnly one municipality seemed to report success with BSL and that was Winnipeg which saw a small reduction in dog bites in those below the age of 20. I think the netherlands also saw quite a lot of success with BSL that required owners of specific breeds to attend science based dog behaviour and training courses which worked out pretty affordable and effective.", "Every one of my cats have been mutts, either off the street or from a shelter.", ">Do you think those that didn't vote wouldn't also lean one way or the other? That means we have confirmation on at least that many.\n\n2016 was one of the worst voter turnouts in history, most of our country felt disenfranchised and didnt want either Clinton or Trump in office. The DNC literally torpedoed Sanders to continue the status quo, but really only kneecapped themselves. More than half the country did not vote because they didnt want either. \n\nI think you're underestimating how unsatisfied the nation was and how wildly incorrect the polls were that year. Its not safe to extrapolate *anything* regarding how the country would have voted if turnout was higher as the country didn't want either of them.", "I've actually been bit by a lab. It was a warning bite. I can report a full recovery with no lasting impact to my health. There is a very large difference between being bit, and being mauled.", "He's a very sensible man.", "Animals are individuals. I can assure you, and I have total confidence that my lab and golden are in fact as dangerous as a wet noodle. You are not required to believe me, and would not be offended by you if you were cautious or suspicious about my dogs. Some individual pitbulls are in fact quite pleasant, and safe. I've met some that seem quite charming and derpy.\n\nHowever, I personally will always be suspcious, cautious and untrusting of a pitbull, or any guard breed of dog for that matter.", "Labs and goldens are not protective. They bark for alarm (yes, generalization)", "Ah, sorry, didn't know you were calling out others.", ">bread to fight until death for 100 years by lower-class Americans aren't like normal dogs\n\nTell me you don't know what you are talking about as fast as possible. Been reading up on 'bread'ing a lot have we?", ">I'm sorry, your comment proves my point though?\n\nNo it doesn't. Here was your point:\n\n>There is a build up of boundaries crossed and warning signs ignored.\n\nAgain, there are zero warning signs and no build up. The dog is happy and playful one moment and in the blink of an eye they latch on and thrash. You do not get a warning with every dog, and if you believe that you haven't owned enough abused and fear aggressive dogs to understand. Sorry sweety.\n\n>I'm not saying that ALL dogs are suitable to be pets. Anyone who suggests that is an idiot, and most rescues would tell you the exact same thing. \n\nMaybe try watching the documentary before commenting, then you may understand how pit bulls are under a no kill policy by the well funded lobby groups who in turn push the dogs they rescue onto families under false advertising of them being safe animals for families with small kids.", "LMAOOOOO aw shit the crazies have been summoned. Fuck pitbulls", "Yeah I'm sure 19 in 20 are just wonderful, but if 1 in 20 are tearing into someone that still presents a serious problem.", "In the moment, if I had a gun on me? None.\n\nHad I gone seeking the dog out for vengeance after the fact, a lot.", "Okay so by structure definitions both sides use propaganda to spread messages. \n\nIt's so heavily \"politicized\" that it's hard to get good info on either side.\n\nI've written enough papers on bully breeds in uni I have read all the major stuff both sides will say.\n\nBully breeds are just the current bad dog. One issue is that they're not a breed but a category of dog like retriever and are notorious hard to I'd. There was a town near me that had it's pitbull ban overturned bc police euthanized a guys AKC registered boxer.\n\nAs to who benefits, id guess it's more psychological benefit than monetary. Like my cousin has a trauma related to dogs. If she can say \"pitbulls did this\" vs having to wrestle with her trauma coming from a very complicated system of events where a dog was trained to be violent and an impossible evil happened (I don't wanna say publicly bc it would dox me but it involved a kid getting killed and some dog fighting ring iirc. It gives her psychological power and a sense of control to have an easy answer of \"ban dog.\"\n\nI guess the benefit is it's a simple solution to a difficult problem and there'd be a lot of pros and cons you'd have to weigh.\n\nImo there's too many places a dog ban can go wrong and I don't actually think it would seriously dent dog bite numbers so much as change the dog doing the biting. That's not relevant to your question. I just don't feel like making a separate comment and it feels important to lay out my potential biases.", "You listed off a group of associations that either have their own self interest in keeping the breed legal or have been lobbied by the powerful and far reaching pitbull lobby, and many of whom have zero business weighing in on this issue which makes it clear they are just being paid to do so.\n\nThen you try and talk about pits as if \"death\" is the only stat to weigh in on (a stat they certainly lead on), deaths are a drop in the bucket reflecting upon the much larger number of people seriously maimed by pits. Don't be sucked into spreading the pit bull propaganda.\n\n>Would you ban a food with a mortality rate like that? \n\nAbsolutely, if the food left thousands of people with disfiguring or fatal injuries each year as pitbulls do.\n\nWhat food rips a mother's arms off as she's trying to protect her child though?", "Oh please. Frightened? More like tired. Tired of watching child after child have to have extensive reconstructive surgery due to yet another severe pit bull attack because their hand or face has been de-gloved.\n\nYou aren't giving accurate information, you are regurgitating the misleading info you have been told by pitbull lobbies.", "Btw ironic story. I was walking my pitbull mutt once and a st Bernard ran up and attacked her. From that day until she died she was terrified of other dogs.\n\nA couple months later the family with the st Bernard had their daughter at the beach and she had najor scars on her face. I asked what happened and they claimed a lab at the dance studio came out of nowhere and mauled her. Based on the father's nonverbal communication it seemed like the lab story was true but who knows for sure. I feel so bad for that girl though.\n\nThis isn't something uhm akshually reply guy bs. I just love that I have an ironic reversal story anytime this comes up.", "But your assumption that they were bred for optimal aggression was when?", "Dear god I hope your family didn’t spend much in property taxes for your education.", "And thats why no one has cats the size of pit bulls as pets.", "And 2020? I agree folks were disenchanted with the whole thing (I was one of them but still voted because I was afraid of a Trump presidency...) But we can't pretend this isn't at least somewhat indicative of general attitudes in this country. \n\nAlso, 2016 was only about 2 million lower in turnout than 2012 for the two major candidates, and there was a strong showing from both the Libertarians and Green Party that probably evens out the total turnout (though obviously I concede there was a lower percentage of eligible voters vs votes tallied in 2016.)\n\nAll of this as a long way of saying, the turnout wasn't THAT bad, and I don't think turnout invalidates that a large percentage of the population is against the bogeyman of \"communism.\"", "Also, I was never more mad following politics than I was during the DNC fixing the primaries for Hilary, and then wondering why Bernie supporters wouldn't vote for her. Ugh.", "“First, the pit bull is quicker to anger than most dogs, probably due to the breed’s unusually high level of the neurotransmitter L-tyrosine. Second, pit bulls are frighteningly tenacious; their attacks frequently last for 15 minutes or longer, and nothing—hoses, violent blows or kicks—can easily stop them. That’s because of the third behavioral anomaly: the breed’s remarkable insensitivity to pain. Most dogs beaten in a fight will submit the next time they see the victor. Not a defeated pit bull, who will tear into his onetime vanquisher. This, too, has to do with brain chemistry. The body releases endorphins as a natural painkiller. Pit bulls seem extra-sensitive to endorphins and may generate higher levels of the chemical than other dogs. Endorphins are also addictive: “The dogs may be junkies, seeking pain so they can get the endorphin buzz they crave,” The Economist suggests.\n\nFinally, most dogs warn you before they attack, growling or barking to tell you how angry they are—”so they don’t have to fight,” ASPCA advisor and animal geneticist Stephen Zawistowski stresses. Not the pit bull, which attacks without warning. Most dogs, too, will bow to signal that they want to frolic. Again, not the pit bull, which may follow an apparently playful bow with a lethal assault. In short, contrary to the writings of Vicki Hearne, a well-known essayist on animals who—in a bizarre but emotionally charged confusion—equates breed-specific laws against pit bulls as a kind of “racist propaganda,” the pit bull is a breed apart.”\n\nhttps://www.daxtonsfriends.com/2017/03/unpredictable-pit-bull-aggression-fighting-breeds/\n\nApparently pit bulls were breed for bull baiting, a bull sport that involved pitting dogs against bulls, usually with the bull tied to an iron stake bolted into the ground. These cruel matches were held for entertainment; a source of relief from hardships of the people. It is unclear when the sport first came to England, but reports suggest that it began as early as 1209 in Stamford during King John’s reign. What we do know is that, from the 13th to the 18th centuries, bull baiting was a national sport of England, and dogs were selectively bred to perform in the ring. Thus, the Old English Bulldog was made. This breed was trained to “pin” the bull, fastening its teeth around the bull’s snout.\n\nThe Old English Bulldog was specially bred for bull-baiting. While it was successful at bull-baiting, its tactics were not “enjoyable” to watch. Because the breed would “pin” bulls and hold them, this fighting style did not translate well into dog fights, as there was not enough action. So, breeders created a cross between the Old English Bulldog and the Old English Terrier. This created a fighting breed with more speed and dexterity, known as the bull-and-terrier. The bull and terrier was the ancestor of our modern-day breeds. Staffordshire Bull Terriers, English Bull Terriers, and American Pit Bull Terriers are all derived from this distinct cross.\n\nhttps://breedingbusiness.com/what-were-pitbulls-bred-for/", "But the way people who hate certain groups of both seem to construct their arguments the same.\n\nThanks for proving my point though.", ">And 2020?\n\nRepeat the feelings of the 2016 except more people decided they couldn't have Trump in office for another 4 years, while moderate republicans still played party politics because their electoral line up was a joke and the cant reconcile the fact that their political team tore off the mask and were as bad as the left had accused them of being.\n\n>and I don't think turnout invalidates that a large percentage of the population is against the bogeyman of \"communism.\"\n\nI dont think the fear of \"communism\" was a driving force at all. The political climate in this country has gone from goal oriented to dog chasing cars. Most people dont know why \"the other team\" is as bad as their grifting pundits tell them they are, they just care about beating them at every point of contention.", "That sucks. I've never personally met a mean poodle. I have one that I've reacued, grew up with them, my aunt bred them.... Was it a big one or one of those tiny ones?", "I am definitely afraid of german shepherds. Any dog that was bred to be aggressive.", "Meta-analysis is one of the best classes of research", "Okay, i forgot how toxic reddit is. Sorry guys, yall keep thinking whatever the other redditors think. Im going back to just using it for porn 😂", "Thanks! He was the best. He was so sweet, that he would let toddlers win tug-of-war because they cried when they losed. He was my best friend. He had a silly name because my family let my 14-year-old ass name him. He wouldn't eat for weeks when I left for the military at 18. Poodles forever.", "It's true. All we can do is get one with a good rep and that exhibits good behavior and treat it with love and train it a lot.", "Americans are just really attached to anything that displays their power and increases their ability to hurt others, whether it's guns, massive cars or aggressive dogs they'll go around pretend they're harmless while knowing exactly why they worship these things.", "It matters because Americans get emotionally attached to anything that they can use to cause harm to others. It's the same reason we can't ban guns.", "But what if I want a dog that I can use to intimate my neighbours and passers by when I don't have time to hang on the porch with my guns?", "literally noone in this thread is calling for the death of pit bull owners. There are a ton of studies and research that you are arguing is wrong. Do you have anything to back your argument?", "So we need to wait until people's dogs kill someone before we take any action? How about bannibg them beforehand and saving everyone the trouble?", "Pit bulls often attract damaged people who empathize with their pet. When you attack their dogs, you are attacking them in a personal way.", "You didn't file a police report?", "So your sister had a friendly dog and an aggressive dog. And since the friendly dog was in danger from the aggressive one she decided to give up... the friendly dog? What the actual fuck is wrong with her?", "Because they're lying. They know that's exactly how things are. And that's exactly why they want a pitbull in the first place.", "It was a tiny one … I was about 7 or 8. It jumped up and bit my arm.", "here is the biggest flaw in this clickbait article, pitbulls aren't a breed. That alone calls most of your stance into question.\n\n[https://www.avma.org/resources-tools/literature-reviews/dog-bite-risk-and-prevention-role-breed](https://www.avma.org/resources-tools/literature-reviews/dog-bite-risk-and-prevention-role-breed)\n\n\"controlled studies have not identified this breed group as disproportionately dangerous\"\n\na little more reliable then a trashy article from Good Dog owner tips dot com lol.", "Waaaaaa", "I hope u had a pocket knife on you to protect your dog.", "because giving the aggressive dog to someone else is a terrible idea and she couldn't bring herself to euthanise it either.", "\"The white man's burden\"\n\nIt's quite crazy to see really.", "Hard to say that when, in fact, this post has a few comments containing exactly this type of rhetoric.", "Can you provide evidence to the contrary other than a typo? It’s my understanding that this is true. Change my understanding.", "I’ve always called pit bulls land sharks but comparing them to hippos seems way more appropriate. Both are absurdly violent and murder people at an uncomfortable rate.", "I froze and just grabbed her. A man came up and hit the dog with a stick and saved my dog.\n\nShe was so sweet but after that she was just afraid of other dogs", "At least hippos are cute. Can’t say that about pitbulls", "They will wha?", "Authorities were notified. When you show up to the ER with a dog bite there’s mandatory paperwork to basically establish a record for the dog. They also quarantined it for rabies (didnt have rabies). And my state is a three strike dog bite state. They don’t put the dog down until there’s three bite incidences.", "Every time i ask a pit person to support their argument, they never cite any sources. Not a single time.", "I'm sorry but how powerful do you think \"big pitbull\" are...? Pitbull lobbyists aren't like big oil or big pharma. You sound like a conspiracy nut. I've shown evidence that the legislation doesn't help and evidence that the legislation is expensive as hell to create and to maintain. You just deny multiple official organisational bodies, most of which are independent and base their stances entirely on available scientific and statistical research not public attitude... and you still deny the fact that the legislation doesn't help.\n\n​\n\nSo you'd be willing to ban peanuts. Because anaphylaxis can and often does cause lasting damage and disability... and does so at a far higher rate than pitbulls and we don't NEED to eat peanuts. You know saves lives and is more effective than banning peanuts? Education, bans on peanuts in certain places, i.e. places where they might present a higher risk to people. Yknow... common sense laws based in available evidence.\n\n​\n\nHow many mothers have their arms ripped off by pitbulls each year?", "Your only response to the evidence I've provided it is to dismiss it as \"big pitbull\" and to use emotionally charged rhetoric misrepresenting reality. Where have we heard people dismissing evidence without actually refuting the evidence presented to them.... oh yeah. Antivaxxers. So tell me, how does a risk of maiming or death at a rate of about 1 in 45454 (per year) warrant banning something? You wanna ban cars too? What about sports? Horses? You have a 1 in 85 chance (per year) of being seriously injured or maimed by a horse if you ride horses. Lets ban that.", "That's terrible. I think dogs that bite people should be either locked up or euthanized so people don't get hurt. My sweet girl was attacked on a public beach by this huge 100 pound malamute thing and I had to nurse her wounds for weeks.\n\nI hope you have some positive experiences with dogs, too. My life is so much better with one at my side. And if it helps, Standard (big) poodles have different genes than the small ones.", "That's amazing", "Aw, that's adorable", "Damn, seriously? I didn't know that. All the poodles I know are sweet companions. Mine does have a guardian thing going tho. She doesn't guard the house, but she will bark a lot at the doorbell or strangers in the yard if I am home.", ">I'm sorry but how powerful do you think \"big pitbull\" are...?\n\nWatch the documentary, they go into just how powerful pitbull lobbying efforts are. Yes, lobbies are very powerful.", "Your comment is a perfect encapsulation of being \"not too bright\". My dog is lazy as fuck, lays around with his belly sticking out, and resembles the color of a seal. Also, seals are constantly killing, do you not realize that? Then again my dog has never killed anything.", "No way, next you're going to tell me that seals don't have legs...", "There aren't gangs of wild pitbulls running around. Dogs have owners just like guns do. They are both dangerous and they both require proper training. And sadly, they are both a lot of times owned by idiots.", "The pit lobby refers to a network of well-monied interests and organizations that use their wealth and influence to downplay the inherent dangers of pit bull type dogs, while falsely promoting them as \"nanny dogs\" and suitable family pets. Yeah, I know, it sounds totally bonkers. But if you've read this far, please take a few more moments to understand (and see actual supporting evidence) of the pit bull lobby: https://rc4ps.org/who-is-the-pit-bull-lobby/", "They don't really exist is the simple answer. There are advocate groups for pitbulls but they don't have much power in terms of lobbying. This video blows it way out of proportion but most of the stats in it are outdated or just outright wrong.", "Don't be fooled by scary sounding numbers. Relative to the population of pitbulls thats less than a 0.0005% chance per year to be maimed by a pitbull. You have a higher chance of being killed from eating out at restaurants as a result of food poisoning or... doing literally any sport. Or just going for a walk.", "Probably because it contains gore and the rules pretty clearly state no gore.", "Probably because the video contains gore and the rules pretty clearly say no gore.", "Ya’ll forget that these dogs aren’t bad, they’re raised by bad people, I’ve see. Complete goober pitpulls who were afraid of SQUIRRELS.", "Wrong thread perhaps?", "I'm glad someone intervened. Understandable. I feel like animals including humans all would show signs of trauma if physically attracted. That's certainly a trans-species characteristic.", "I have a golden retriever and her only instinct is to comfort and demand belly rubs. Also, extreme ball obsession, particularly tennis balls. Best dog I ever had though.", "Why would a dog that's bred to be a relentless killer attack a small child? wow who would imagine.", "That's why you see a puppy English setter pointing. It's in their blood. \n\nSame way it's in a pit bulls blood to kill and have a high tolerance to pain.", "That's a complete subjective opinion. I can counter your anecdote with my own. A pitbull that lived in my old neighborhood killed my neighbor's cats and would run loose on the street occasionally with no collar. Countless complaints and nothing was ever done. People literally had to change their lifestyles because of one menacing dog and deadbeat owners. You'd have 70 year old retiree's going for walks with pepper spray and a knife solely to protect themselves against this one dog. For every one positive pitbull story there are multiple like mine. \n\nThis is why we it is imperative to use objective primary data to make public health decisions. The fact that you disregard statistics(seriously wtf) and view them as irrelevant just shows how pitbull owners and supporters think. \n\nJust keep talking and keep expressing your opinion even more. The more you talk, the more people will realize that you're not forming your opinions correctly.", "It is not about the number of times they bite. it is the damage they do once they bite.", "> it involved a kid getting killed and some dog fighting ring\n\nThere are so many incidents involving putbulls killing children you don't need to worry about being doxxed. You're acting as if this was a one time event. \n\n> can go wrong and I don't actually think it would seriously dent dog bite numbers so much as change the dog doing the biting.\n\nSo let me get this straight, removing the breed that makes up over 60% of attacks and 80% of fatalities...... Will cause Rottweilers to increase the number of attacks they commit? Why do you think that the number of dog bites would be the same if pitbulls were removed from the equation?", "Potential to cause harm is critical as well as how frequent that breed shows aggression judging by the data we have. Putbulls win by a landslide in both departments.", "Ah yes, if you can't actually support your point of view with objective data and reason, just call the opposition white supremacists and extremists. \n\nI cannot believe that there are people like you who view using primary data as a white supremacy tactic. Anybody that views primary data as irrelevant is pure evil.", "Just look at the comments in this thread from the Pitbull supporters and you'll see exactly how this can be argued.\n\nI literally just responded to someone that stated using primary data like this is a white supremacist tactic and is akin to comparing pit bulls to black people.\n\nThe other mean tactic they use is to insert a personal anecdote about how sweet there childhood Pitbull was well neglecting to bring up any real numbers.", "Dogs aren't people", "Neither are Pitbulls.", "GSD’s and Rottweiler’s are protection dogs. Stranger danger, following orders, loyalty.\n\nThey were not EVER fighting dogs on any level. They didn’t have their self preservation bred out through insane pain tolerance, insane gameness, and insane prey drive to top it off.", "But you need to eat, excercise and socialize to live.\n\nYou do not need to even see dogs.", "And in your shitty pointless semantics, you don’t realize the dog was only attacking her because she got it off her 2 year old who needed over 70 stitches on his leg.\n\nAnd it didn’t FINISH killing her because the husband who also needed stitches got it off and had to kill it to stop it.\n\nThat dog didn’t stop out of the goodness of its heart and it didn’t even get to finish the massacre it started.\n\nIf not for the husband we’d be talking about two dead bodies.", "It's gone", "They’re not even big dogs. \n\nAnd you cannot in any way “control” a dog like that. They were bred to kill bears for centuries. You stand no real chance not to lose body parts if one wanted to kill you.", "People who say “yall” are fucking worthless", "Oh well arent you special. Posting everyday in r/BanPitbulls like its your damn job. And Netflix propaganda about Pitbulls? Seriously? Is this the Q anon for pussies that are too bashful or have literally nothing going on with their lives. How lost in this world do you have to be? Im absolutely dead.\n\nIf you actually gave a fuck (or had any good ideas) you wouldnt be on reddit talking about it you’d be at your local animal shelter volunteering. Yall are losers❤️", "Jumping in late trying to argue.", "U mad?", "Like I said. If you gave a fuck about animals, you wouldnt be here right now. Yall are not as smirky cool in these comments as you think in your brain. Hit me with some more middle school shit though. Its actually funny.", "I do give a fuck about animals which is why I hate shitbulls.\n\nPitbulls are more likely to kill other pets. You can’t claim to love animals and advocate for pitbulls.", "Oh wow another take that is totally not some absolutist black& white shit. /s\n\nRemove the inability to see the nuance of the situation then you would be correct. You CAN love all animals and at the same time see what and how Pitbulls (the most over used term for any box-faced dog in the US) can be good pets. That IS possible.", "Why do you want pitbulls to suffer? Advocating them just sets them up for failure. Morons see this shit and decide to “give a pitbull a chance” and then surrender it back to a shelter when it’s breed traits reveal themselves.\n\nThey were bred to kill other dogs. You cannot remove that feature. That’s why I want them banned and eradicated. \n\nI’m just curious what attracts you to this breed? Were you bullied, abused, addicted to drugs, spent time in prison or come from poverty or something? Seems to be the formula for pitnuttership.", "Yes, I do in fact have to ask. Because dogs come in a variety of shapes and sizes, even among the same “breed”. If we’re only banning an animal based on name, an identical breed will simply spring up with a new name, so we have to go based on features. \n\nSo what *exactly* are the features that would need to be banned? What percentage of Pit Bull is acceptable before the animal becomes illegal?", "Well seeing as how I do control a dog like that, I have to disagree. Also they were used to kill large game in packs, not single dogs. A single pitbull, when pitted against a bear, would die quickly.", "Bullshit. If they weren't more aggressive than other dogs, they wouldn't be KILLING human beings at such an insanely disproportionate rate.", "English Staffordshire Terrier - A pit with papers.\n\nThey are not nannies, they also kill and maim children and other animals and human beings. Get your head out of the sand.", "Dogs are not people. We do not breed people for traits. We do breed dogs. Stop parroting this stupid argument and learn to think critically.", "They kill humans more because of their larger jaws and bigger force.", "And their gameness. Their refusal to back down. The very trait breeders are still breeding into them today. And their unchecked, sudden aggression. And the fact they are touted as 'Nanny Dogs' to the ignorant and uneducated. \n\nRemind me, why are you defending them again?", "Have you ever heard of natural selection?..", "There's another checkbox on the bingo card. \"I love my pitbull until this topic comes up. Then there's no such thing as a pitbull.\"", "eh, no? It's a completely different breed, not at all associated with attacks on anyone in any higher frequency than other dogs.\n\nIf you're saying a pitbull and Staffy are the same you simply don't know dog breeds.\n\nOf course dogs are not nannies, it's just a nickname. You should never leave a child alone with any animal.\nMy point was that it was never a name given to pitbulls.", "Why is the pitbull the only dog subject to this \"breeding\" logic? Why are you not arguing against the idea that retrievers could be trained not to chase rabbits or foxes?\nAnd even if this logic is true, they still bred them to obey humans when bull baiting? Why would they attack humans because of this? Not to mention you never speak of the othet dogs bred for bull baiting.", "I'm not talking about other dogs, because for the most part, other dogs are not the ones bred specifically for blood sport. Other 'fighting' dogs like Cane Corsos are also dangerous because of their breeding, but their attack/fatality rate is NOTHING compared to Pits. \n\nOther dogs who are dangerous should be similarly evaluated and legislated against. Pits are the ones currently on the chopping block because they are bred to fight, are good at fighting, and are being marketed as \"family pets\".", "Hide behind the name if you wish. Do a quick search for Staffys and you'll find a good number of them acting aggressively in a manner that betrays their heritage. \n\nPit bulls. With papers.", "What exactly does natural selection have to do with the fact we as humans currently breed Pit Bulls for 'gameness', the trait to not back down from a fight, until death.\n\nAre we doing the same thing for humans and I haven't been made aware of it? Rhetorical, of course not. Human beings are not dogs. Dogs are trained and bred for specific traits; aggression and refusal to back down from a fight are one of them. \n\nGet a better argument.", "lol wut? You can make up whatever you want. Give me 1 link and I'll have a look, but my guess is you don't have a single one.\n\npitbulls and English staffies are separated by about hundred years of breeding.\n\nThere's a language barrier here, Americans definition and European definition of pitbull are not the same. With your limited knowledge that means they appear the same.\n\nThey're separated by the Atlantic and about 100 years of breeding.", "What are you talking about? Natural selection is what made people living in different conditions different (well it is one of the things) . You can believe that all ppl are equal, and the only difference is looks, but that is not true (and so not scientific) . Also very few pit bulls are bred for fights (in relation to total population), there is a lot of careless breeding, that is done by greedy shitty people. Unstable dogs from backyard breeders kept by shitty people who do not socialize them, do not spend time with them, lock them up are the problem.", "This incident wasn't standard fare. It made CNN at the time and was truly horrible. Someone got eaten level of news.\n\nHere's some background, I've spent thousands of hours with dogs caring for them. In a couple months I'll be able to go back to my passion work of volunteering at the animal shelter and working with problem dogs. \n\nPitbulls aren't a breed, they're a type so it's like saying retrievers. They're also incredibly hard to positively I'd bc several dogs have the same physical traits(boxers off the top of my head).\n\nIf you got rid of bully breeds entirely, you haven't resolved the issue. Ime, there's a couple reasons a dog who is physically healthy will bite someone, they haven't been properly socialized or they feel threatened.\n\nFor a less high stakes example, you know how small dogs, especially chihuahuas, have a reputation for being devils? That's pretty much entirely because they're small so feel vulnerable, they aren't taught proper behavior by their owners, and they are allowed to get away with bad behavior bc their attacks don't do major damage. \n\nIt's the same with any breed of dog. Tbh the idea that \"dogs bred to fight are dangerous to humans\" is a bit silly. You can certainly breed a dog to be more aggressive but for millenia dogs were bred to be friendly towards humans as a species. If I wanted a dog to fight other animals really good, im going to breed it to love me a ton bc I don't want it to turn on me when I beat it for losing. That's assuming you can breed that level of aggression into a breed that has been propagating for 200 years, in about 20.\n\nLike I'm sure it feels comforting to think you can solve the issue of something that I'm guessing is a trauma for you based on how you're reacting. Truly though, this comes down to bad owners and the inherent risk of having animals around at all. The comfort you feel and anger over whatever happened lies with whoever was responsible for the dog, the same as if I hurt someone with my bench press equipment or a hunting knife. \n\nI'm sorry whatever it was that happened though, truly I am.", "Oh absolutely! And I'm glad someone did also. Tbh im a gentle but strong person so it's hard for me and on me to hurt something else. What I was about to do in that moment was curl around my dog to protect her. I know the stick or fighting the dog would have been the best but it'd be like hurting a child to me. I'm not wired for it. \n\nAnd yeah I think anything with high enough brain function to understand why it runs from a deadly experience, and to be able to remember things can be traumatized. \n\nI watched the champions which was about the rehab of the Michael Vick dogs and every single new owner said they believed their dog had ptsd and it was interesting seeing the needs for all the dogs. It's been years but iirc they all did show things that I'd read as trauma responses as someone with ptsd and all of them needed some variation of a calm place after. One dog was deemed by the state to be unadoptable and he got to live out his life at the shelter and seemed like he had as good a life as he could. Idk what the right answer is in cases like that but I think if people want to try rehab with dogs and they're qualified like these people, it doesn't hurt to give it a shot.", "Oh absolutely! And I'm glad someone did also. Tbh im a gentle but strong person so it's hard for me and on me to hurt something else. What I was about to do in that moment was curl around my dog to protect her. I know the stick or fighting the dog would have been the best but it'd be like hurting a child to me. I'm not wired for it. \n\nAnd yeah I think anything with high enough brain function to understand why it runs from a deadly experience, and to be able to remember things can be traumatized. \n\nI watched the champions which was about the rehab of the Michael Vick dogs and every single new owner said they believed their dog had ptsd and it was interesting seeing the needs for all the dogs. It's been years but iirc they all did show things that I'd read as trauma responses as someone with ptsd and all of them needed some variation of a calm place after. One dog was deemed by the state to be unadoptable and he got to live out his life at the shelter and seemed like he had as good a life as he could. \n\nIdk what the right answer is in cases like that but I think we should have been able to cancel Vick after all that.", "I'm glad too. I'm 100% not wired to hurt a dog any more than a child so when the guy came to our rescue I was about to use my body to shield my dog. The entire time all she did was bark and back up. \n\nBtw fwiw I do go after dog fighting and actually call reps n stuff to make animal fighting harder and one person I'll never forgive is Michael Vick. I think some people don't know just how exceptionally cruel he was to those dogs and the sheer levels of brutality.\n\nBtw a doc I loved was the champions about rehabilitating the dogs from that case. Imo it really shows that dog ptsd can certainly be real, not all dogs can come back from trauma to be the best doggos ever but the variety in needs and response across them is just as varied as it is for humans.\n\nMy family comes from abuse and me and my siblings range from choosing addiction and self destruction to working towards being able to foster kids and dogs to give people second chances. I think dogs can have similar variety in response.", "Cane Corsos were bred for hunting large game. Again, why arent they always hunting bears, and why would they attack humans if they were bred to obey human instructions?\nIf your logic doesnt apply to other dogs, then it doesnt work at all.", "Cane Corsos being kept as pets likely aren't regularly coming across large game like bears in the city where humans live. \n\nBut Pit Bulls were bred to fight other dogs. Well-loved or not, that is something bred into the breed - And unlike bears, other dogs are something that Pit Bulls will inevitably come into contact with. \n\nAnd it won't happen every time, or even ever for certain Pits. But news reports show that it does happen, enough for people to worry about their dogs in the presence of Pits.\n\nYou can love the breed and still argue things need to change. Trying the argue the breed of dog isn't a problem just isn't looking at things objectively.", "They werent bred to fight other dogs. They were bred for bull baiting. Thats in the name.\n\nEven if they did engage in dogfighting, that doesnt mean they will always do it. If you can train a lion to act better and obey humans, then the same is for pits. \nIf theres one trait that can be bred into dogs it's to obey humans. Bad pitbulls that attack humans or other dogs are neglected or taught wrongly.", "I didn't say there wasn't such a thing as Pit Bull, just that each place in europe pretends their local dog-fighting mastiff breed is not a Pit Bull when it is. (A lot of brits pretend that Staffies aren't Put Bulls)", "Which is silly because many countries have banned 4 or so breeds and have not expanded that list for years.", "Yeah and humans that kill animals well they just walk away. The planet’s serial killers are Homo sapiens not bears." ]
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Documentary on Pit Bull Lobbyists: how they push damaged/agressive dogs into the homes of vulnerable families with small children using misleading marketing tactics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhBal7AM4Ho
/r/videos/comments/rm7xhq/ohio_man_chases_down_purse_thief_and_makes_a/
[ "Looks like a citizens ass beating. I approve! Glad to see a fellow Ohioan looking out for those who need it.", "Purse snatching isn't a felony.", "Technically it can be, depending on the contents of said purse. https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-2913.02", "For example $1000 cash in the purse makes it a felony. Or any credit card. https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-2913.71", "Where I live this would be regarded criminal, regardless of wether the perpetrator/victim deserved it or not. Also, it is recommended against because attacking a criminal like that could be dangerous. What if he had stabbed or - because America - shot the vigilante? Just call police and follow the guy from a safe distance until they can handle it. Having said that, if I saw someone snatch a purse I’d at least tackle the thief.", "Not a bad beat down.", "Did the citizen administering the can of whoop-ass get in trouble for this? Hopefully not..." ]
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Ohio man chases down purse thief and makes a citizen's arrest
https://youtu.be/0yHyE9H2p7U
/r/videos/comments/rm83hn/christopher_reeves_in_1998_listens_and_reacts_to/
[ "Christopher Reeve", "Every time", "Thumbnail makes him look like robocop", "“Today you…tomorrow me”", "Yeah, I was confused until I saw the shirt.", "With that face, my man had to be swimming in naked fan pics", "I should have wrote Christopher Reeve'S'. \n\nBut yeah my bad. I didn't realize his last named should not be added with an 'S'. For some reason I always heard his last name sounded out that way when spoken.", "You win the genetic lottery and also become a movie star only to be paralyzed so you can't enjoy it. Pure hell.", "I’d rather have the 50(?) years of his life then die then have what I got going on. \n\n\nI guarantee this dude lived a better life in those short years than you or I will ever get too.", "Great man.", "The second he said don’t give up is the second Christopher felt it. So sad", "It's not getting what you want, it's wanting what you got", "Reeves would be more than one Reeve, and Reeve's is possessive. Neither work.", ">I guarantee he is now as mentally strong as ever\n\nHe died in 2004.", "He was around 43 when he had his accident. Not a young guy but also not old. Truly unfortunate", "Well, in the first Superman TV show in the '50s, he was played by George Reeves, with an S.", "> I guarantee he is now as mentally strong as ever, and is an inspiration to many\n\nthat means pretty much one thing, and that thing is that you're not dead. nice try though", "Lots of people make this mistake - there’s a chance you’ve never heard it said properly!\n\n> I should have wrote Christopher Reeve'S'.\n\nWhy?", "you clearly put up a mindless sappy post not knowing Reeve had past away, which is totally fine, we all make mistakes. It's just weird when that happened you didn't go \"Doh, my bad!\", not \"you know what I mean\", because truly, no one knew what you meant,\n\nId tell you the same thing to your face at a party too, and like now, I'm sure you wouldn't take it well.", "really though if you ever take the time to watch him talk or be interviewed it’s clear he was an extremely strong and grateful person even after the accident.", "that's true, he was very strong.", "🎵 *I'm gonna soak up the sun* 🎵", "My man", "It’s called he was coping", "I'd be inclined to think /u/kharsus would be fun at parties. But we don't have much to go and perhaps they wouldn't be fun at parties (and, furthermore, would be happy to concede this).\n\nHowever, we can be certain that you aren't intellectually honest in this forum, the mode of interaction at hand, for the reasons /u/kharsus points to.", "He was a real Superman" ]
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Christopher Reeves in 1998 listens and reacts to a person who also suffered an almost similar neck injury as himself
https://youtu.be/Rt_UqUm38BI
/r/videos/comments/rm8acs/multiverse_of_madness/
[ "So I'm assuming I have to have watched Wanda Vision to understand this movie?\n\nFuck it's getting too much, I'm about to call it quits.", "Also What If? To understand Strange Supreme lol.", "If they do it right, they'll just give a recap or barely touch on it.\n\nI do recommend watching WandaVision though, it was a fun show.", "Trailer literally says he's not here for Westview which is about the show, so likely all they will touch on it.\n\nWhat if looks like what if might be more important if you want to see the origins of strange Supreme. Specificly episode 4, then 8 and 9. But the entire show was good if you watched all the other movies.", "Man nobody cares. Either you enjoy MCU and keep up on it or you don’t. It isn’t hard to keep up on if you actually enjoy the universe they have built, and if you don’t enjoy it then you won’t miss watching this movie.\n\nThat said, marvel movies don’t tend to require that much prior knowledge to enjoy, you simply won’t understand every little detail, but on the whole it will make sense and be entertaining. It’s not exactly Shakespeare, it’s a comic book movie.", "Zero chance watching their animated series will\nBe at all required to comprehend what’s happening.", "I mean strange supreme has a massive arc in the series, and I mean he is shown here so it might be better understand of the character but I’m a fan of everything so I never miss out.", "A little bit disappointed to not really see much of Sam Raimi's style here, but maybe that's just this trailer. I love Raimi's work so I'm hoping this definitely still feels like it.", "Hardly the same thing at all. Wanda Vision requires Disney+, and it also features two of the most boring ass characters in television history in one of the most boring ass relationships in television history.\n\nI have such little desire to watch that show and listen to the worst Eastern European accent in existence lmao.\n\nLiterally the weakest parts of every MCU movie that Wanda has been a part of has been when Wanda was a part of it.", "I don’t think that’s strange supreme. I’m guessing he’s just one of the many bad stranges.", "Looks solid I’m just getting burned out with all the super hero movies. However, that’s mine to deal with.", "Marvel going all Nintendo with their sequels and storylines.", "The Disney+ shows did it for me. I watched Wanda vision and and half of Falcon and Winter Soldier. \n\nWandavision was ok but slow. \n\nFalcon and WS was terrible. \n\nI haven't even attempted Loki or Hawkeye yet. Tying these shows to MCU sucks. I much prefered going movie to movie.", "Can we expect Living Tribunal to appear in the movie so as to sort and balance everything out?", "I have the same opinion, but Loki is definetly the best. I actually can't wait for season 2. I only watched half of the falcon and WS 1st episode, got bored and quit, wandavision was aight, but slow like you said. So far tho havent even bothered with hawkeye.\n\nYou should give Loki a watch though.", "LOKI was in a league of its own. I think it may be my absolute favorite Marvel product.", "Very doubtful. You have to see the latest spiderman probably, but they might even recap that in that movie too.", "Your assumption would be incorrect. So you should definitely quit while your tiny little retention is ahead.", "Was that Shuma-Gorath?", "I think that's actually becoming more and more of a common consensus. I think there is a waxing and waning when it comes to things like this.\n\nI like the 4 quadrant super hero movies fine enough, but my issue is of taking things that were originally made for a child audience with simplified morals and then trying to adjust that to a \"gritty\" universe. You end up with less than morally clear characters making poor decisions ending up winning in the last hour due to \"he's the good guy\". No redemption or growth, all it does is teach that might is right.\n\nAnd if it was a singular thing that happened once in a while, that wouldn't be a problem. However the fact that one of the biggest media companies in the world is constantly blasting out this message over, and over, and over again stumbling head over heel to make as much money as possible is something to consider.", ">Shuma-Gorath\n\nGargantos more likely", "Oh thanks, a quick google search confirmed it with an upcoming Lego set from the movie bearing that name.", "how could you POSSIBLY know that with such confidence? I love how cocky you are in belittling someone behind a monitor.\n\nRedditor's and their pompous attitude like they know everything never ceases to amaze me. We don't know anything yet, I'm guessing but that's all it is, a guess.\n\n\nYou on the other hand apparently are directing the movie with your arrogance ..", "Because i watched wandavision and i know that it isn’t required to be watched since you know in the literal dialogue of this trailer it says “im not here about west view” so if you use your tiny smooth little brain and use common sense you would come to the very good assumption that you dont need to watch wandavision to watch a movie NOT ABOUT WANDAVISION", "> I like the 4 quadrant super hero movies fine enough, but my issue is of taking things that were originally made for a child audience with simplified morals and then trying to adjust that to a \"gritty\" universe. You end up with less than morally clear characters making poor decisions ending up winning in the last hour due to \"he's the good guy\". No redemption or growth, all it does is teach that might is right.\n\nAnd let's be honest; they're hardly *that* gritty or dark. I'd love an actually dark and menacing superhero movie. Watchmen was a good one. I just can't take superhero movies seriously when they're so predictable and obviously marketed towards families with the primary goal of appealing to as many people as possible.\n\nI get it, they want to make money, but I've seen a lot of movies following that idea; everything being marketed towards the broadest audience, meaning the movies are usually quite predictable and hardly take any risks.\n\nI don't know, I haven't seen a superhero movie where everything just felt like it was decided by an algorithm or something.", "I think it ties into the already aired What If series.", "They've been recapping story beats when needed, you should be fine.\n\nI think they kniw making everyone watch eveything will burn them out, and burned out viewers don't buy movie tickets or streaming subscriptions.", "Can we just avoid multi-verse and time travel for a few movies? :P", "So are we getting Namor?", "Loki was nothing like Wandavision or Falcon and WS. It was captivating from the first episode, and honestly, I think has the biggest influence on where Marvel is going with the multiverse arch.", "I hated Loki, if that's the best of the Disney marvel shows then I'm glad I haven't wasted my time with the others.", "We've reached peak Marvel saturation. I'm pretty over it. But I guess I'm probably not the nerd demographic they are looking for.", "That's not really modern Marvel/Disney's MO though. All the big set pieces are previsualized in advance, and the script is written around it / directors are hired to fill in between those pieces.", "Do you have a source on the \"big set pieces are previsualized in advance?\"\n\nI've never heard that before, I'd love to read more about it.", "Disney's far less appealing MO is to buy these IPs and squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the life out of them. It's annoying as anything but kind of brilliantly brazen.", "Loki is great. Hawkeye I couldn’t finish ep01", "Was that the [jacket of American Chavez?](https://i.imgur.com/xmZLfLp.png?1)", "You and I have very different definitions of 'boring'.", "WandaVision is great!", "Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgvgi3ShcmY\n\nVideo essentially describes how every single scene is pre-mapped.", "I was sort of hoping it wouldn't be a 'Evil Strange vs Good Strange' thing but we'll see.", "It's also a fantastic way to bring in the Fantastic Four and the X Men without needing to shoehorn in some bizarre in-universe explanation for the the real-life contract negotiations and studio purchases. So I'm in it for that. And seeing variants of our familiar heroes is something I'll never get tired of. But you're not wrong, either. I'm not differing with you. I'm just saying that it's not ALL negative.", "That's an interesting opinion, because I feel like cinematography wise this seems like classic Raimi! I hope the film is suitably gonzo when it comes out.", "This is why I just can’t get into super hero movies. I’ve tried and tried and they just don’t hold any interest for me.", "you can guarantee you'll get a POV scene from some creature or common household object trying to kill Dr. Strange.", "I'm not and neither are millions of other fans. I've seen every film and unless the MCU somehow takes a huge nosedive in quality or stops (lol) I'll probably continue to watch every future film", "I liked Loki a lot but the romance angle they gave him was gross as hell and played as if it’s not.", "I want to see Man-Man put to screen. Now, there's darkness.", "OP: \"Here's a trailer for a highly anticipated movie that most audiences might find enjoyable.\"\n\nITT: \"Let me tell you how much I hate Marvel/Disney and superhero movies.\"", "Loki is the only one that had any kind of creativity but it was also kind of dumb. The episode with Richard E Grant and the Loki Gator was awesome though.", "I take it you haven’t actually watched Spider-Man yet", "why was it gross?", "You feelin alright?", " Why do you ask ?", "America Chavez*, or Miss America. \n\nBut yes, pretty clear the MCU is building towards a young avengers cast/set up. \n\nHailee from Hawkeye\n\nYelene, black widow assassin\n\nSpiderman, maybe Ned if he gets magic back in some manner \n\nCassie Lang, Ant mans daughter \n\nMs America from strange \n\nI bet Mrs Marvel, Nova, and a kid vision will be introduced as well to be on the team\n\nEDIT: I also hold a small suspicion that the kid from iron man 3, will be the new Iron Lad. It’s why he was at Starks funeral in endgame.", "Just askin is all.", "Good for you.", "[Thaaaaanks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHKU4znvo8)", "Cassie Lang*", "It’s indistinguishable from incest.", "Don’t forget Isaiah Bradley’s grandson Eli who was introduced in Falcon and Winter Soldier. He’s Patriot in the Young Avengers.", "Ironically Hawkeye has had the most consistent quality and most well-thought out character moments. I never thought I’d say this when I first heard about the shows but Hawkeye is second only to Loki. And even then the genres and scope are so different it’s hard to compare. \n\nBut I feel you, FaWS and Wandavision weren’t the best starts for the Disney plus era of shows.", "You wouldn’t fuck a female version of yourself? You aren’t that narcissistic?! That what’s made it so crazy.", " okay this would make sense introducing new characters to ensure the legacy of Marvel movies", "you went through my history didn't you. lol", "No, I wouldn’t.", "No! I swear", "I hope we get Wiccan and Hulkling but that’s hoping for too much I think.", "Make a Wong movie cowards. Mcu has its quota of mediocre arrogant white guys", "Thank you", " it's alright if you did I'm not ashamed. also I kind of may have misspelled some word I use a speech-to-text message app", "Maybe", " I am an adult and I drink out of an adult glass", "Alright alright now, I get it.", "We already did get Wiccan didnt we? Wanda’s kids in Wandavision even wore their comic costumes in the Halloween episode. They’ll age them up with a recast and boom. Plus more Queer characters which I don’t see Disney shying away from.", "Honestly it would be really disappointing if they did Young Avengers and didn’t include Marvel’s 1st gay couple.", "They fucking better. Hulkling and Wiccan are such an amazing couple. But hear me out:\n\nThey have to. Secret Invasion show will delve more into Skrulls and Kree which is perf set up for Hulkling (and if not, I’ve heard rumors that She Hulk will lead into an all Hulk movie featuring Red Hulk, Banner, She Hulk, etc and they can change his comic origin if they want) plus again we’ve already met child Billy who is probably off being aged up through multiverse shenanigans.", " I'm sorry I didn't understand the statement. LOL", " give them time everything's going according to plan", "Wandavision was hard for me until I accept that it was suppose to be strange and I also didn't like Falcon. Loki is fantastic, great pacing and never really lets up or has a slow part other than maybe the first half of the first episode. Hawkeye has been pretty good as well. Overall I think these two are better than Wanda and Falcon.", "Hawkeye is pretty good, definitely 2nd best series.", "That's because you aren't Loki.", "Is there a certain way people have to react?", "But bloody hell hawkeye is a shitty character", "Well, ok then.", "But then where would be the humour in having an actor named Benedict Wong playing against another Benedict while playing a character also called Wong?", "Loki was very good. The rest sucked.", "Shuma-Gorath!", "That was a huge spoiler", "I honestly could care less at this point. They all feel the same and it’s been that way after Avengers 1 more prominent after Ultron. Downvote me, because I know you MCU fans run rampant on Reddit", "I just thought it was funny.", "Uhhhhh Cumberbatch can be Wongs like valet or something. Just here to spread Dr. Strange slander🙃", "Lmao this looks *greeeaaaat*", ">\tI think that's actually becoming more and more of a common consensus.\n\nIt’s really not, only on places like reddit.", "There’s so many weirdos like this that just post looking for an argument lmao", "That’s like saying you need to read the comics to understand the characters before watching MCU movies.", "Agreed.\nI really did enjoy Wandavision, but absolutely hated FAWS.\nYou’d like Loki I’m sure though, kept up the pace and had a great end", "I agree. And he’s actually really well developed and likable in this one. Obvs six episodes as main character will do that for most people.", "Is the ending title the same type font as stranger things?", "I'm not invested enough to say strongly one way or another but looking at international box office figures, I think there seems to be a general trend moving towards less interest in super hero stuff, but I think there are way too many data points to say safely one way or another. For instance, what movies come out are very much dictated by the schedule of production which Covid had a massive factor on, as well as what publishers wanted to push forward. All I can say is that there seems to be enough $$$ data and enough voicings from online social as well surveys to show a shift in fatigue. It may not be a majority, but it is a group that exists. I don't know if it is growing or not though.\n\nSurvey: [https://morningconsult.com/2021/12/06/marvel-superhero-film-fatigue/](https://morningconsult.com/2021/12/06/marvel-superhero-film-fatigue/)\n\nInternational Box Office Gross:\n\n* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021\\_in\\_film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_film)\n* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020\\_in\\_film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_in_film)\n* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019\\_in\\_film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_in_film)\n* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018\\_in\\_film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_in_film)\n* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017\\_in\\_film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_in_film)\n\nI'm up for debating though. If you can think of any reasons it's not true feel free to discuss!", "[Hmmm](https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-jackson-6pJNYBYSMFod2)", "4 out of the top 10 of this year are superhero movies and the 4th highest is a movie that released a week ago.\n\nCovid and releasing straight to streaming hindered some for sure but in general people still love going to watch superhero movies", "Don't know why your opinion had to be downvoted. I feel like people have forgotten what upvoting and downvoting are for.\n\nI think that's fine. They're enjoyable as a mindless action flick, but if the flashy lights and action don't interest you, there's plenty of other ways to get your thrills.\n\nIf there is any super hero movie I would highly recommend it would be Logan. The beats are similar to a western and it's a great story about broken characters looking for redemption. It was one of those movies where I felt empathy towards them and a story that wasn't just about \"saving the world for goodness sakes\".\n\nAnother series I've enjoyed are the new Spider Man Home series. I'm not a huge Tom Holland fan but he does a very likable and naive Peter Parker and all the cast are pretty cute and likable and the villains have had more relatable motivations.", "That's a good point, but I also wonder if instead of making super hero movies, there had been a choice of something like Matrix Resurrections (I'm interested to see the $$$s on that one in the upcoming week), if people wouldn't have seen that as well. And considering the popularity of something like Red Notice on Netflix, if these are necessarily super hero #s or if they are rather 4 quadrant popular IP numbers.\n\nLike if Pixar did a non super hero movie next week, I wonder if they wouldn't get some big box office #s as well.\n\nI think you do make a good point though, super hero movies do have a very marketable IP and the fact that they have these simplified morality formulas makes it easy popcorn for most people to go out and enjoy. I don't think there has been something as similarly 4 quadrant relatable beyond something like Star Wars.\n\nAs for the waxing and waning of interest, I guess we'll have to keep on checking the $$$ data beyond covid times. It's too hard to say with such a huge variable. The trend from compared to 2018 though is that back then there were like 6 in the top 10, and now we have 4, but again, covid. Who knows.", "They are not the same person, are not related outside of being their respective universes Loki, and are opposite gender’s. It’s not really incest.", "Fair enough", "I obviously didn’t say that, I was just hinting at maybe that’s who it is and other properties the character has been in.", "Who knows what marvel does, they are always doing stuff that still surprises me like with NWH", "They have the same mother and father. By that logic is it not incest if Scarlet Witch from 1 universe gets with Quicksilver from another universe?", "Yes because they wouldn’t actually be brother and sister. They are different people from different families.", "Iron Lad will be a variant of Kang.", "I agree. If you’re tired of superhero movies, stop watching them right?", "Is the Black dude Doctor Voodoo?", "They don't have the same mother and father, they each have a mother and father from their own respective universes... I don't even remotely see the problem here.", "I've seen them all as well and while the quality was never through the roof (as in the movies weren't art; they were always well made), they've always been solid and are massive cinematic achievements in their own right. Phase 1 and 2 had their rough moments but the Avengers Infinity War and Endgame were the crowning glories of the superhero genre when they came out, and they still are.\n\nWhile No Way Home was very very good, it's definitely an outlier in Phase 4. Iron Man and Captain America are gone, two of the most marketable and well known Marvel heroes. With Chadwick Boseman's death, Black Panter is essentially gone now too. The Eternals was poorly received, Shang-Chi doesn't capture the imagination the way others do, and the TV series haven't been the hit they were expected to be. \n\nThere's definitely declining interest in the MCU as it tries to introduce new and more obscure heroes. Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Thor, and the Guardians of the Galaxy will still be popular but is there much appetite for another Avengers movie? How do you trump the biggest of bads?\n\nI think Marvel are also lucky that DC haven't ever really managed to get their universe off the ground. If the Justice League had been done well, I think we'd all be even more fatigued from superhero overload.", "Im just trying to work out why people pay for the same plot/story that only takes place in front of green screens. Sure pirate it or whatever but I can't imagine paying money for zero creative effort.", "When you say you could care less, it means you are interested in this. \n\nWhat you meant to say is \"I couldn't care less\".", "Cumberbatch’s attempt at an American accent when playing Doctor Strange is like fingernails on a chalkboard.", "No, Mordo, same guy as the first movie.", "Didn’t really like wandavision or Falcon and WS either. Loki was awesome though", "I feel like after Ultron is when they got way better. I was extremely disappointed with Ultron, and the first avengers is so damn campy. Basically since civil war I’ve enjoyed marvel 10x more and become a much bigger fan.", "And Speed has been introduced too.", "Loki is heads and shoulders above the other ones.", "I know right? I like the movies and all ... but to my comic-uneducated mind, he would have been much better with a british accent, and it would not have mattered *at all* for his role ...", "“There’s definitely declining interest in the MCU”\n\nDo you have some kind of objective data to back that up?", "It would make sense if they bought in shuma-gorath, maybe he will be teased in this movie but not actually feature until the next.", "You could argue that two different but identical versions of the same person from different universes still have the same DNA (or very similar), which is the main problem with incest, but by then we’re thinking too hard about a fictional scenario", "Shuma would be better", "Honestly, we have had too much of this: \n\nIron-Man vs Iron-Monger \nHulk vs Abomination \nAnt-Man vs Yellow Jacket \nBlack Panther vs Killmonger \nShang-Chi vs Mandarin", ">They have the same mother and father.\n\n...no they don't", "I dont mind a villain with the same or similar power set. I mean, it's not great but it's comics 101. But I hear what you're saying. But to me, the multiverse is this springboard for the imagination that can be used for SO many wild things. To just use it to produce mirror-universe \"eeeeevil\" versions of everyone is a bit tiresome and unoriginal.", "Mcu will die soon. People are becoming less interested as there arent as many recognizable heroes. No iron man and captain america is a bigger deal than fanboys want to admit.", "Specifically new *younger* charcters. So they don't have to worry about the actors retiring their roles (like RDJ, Scarlett and Chris Evans) for a long time.", "Is it literally impossible to have a trailer video that does not start with a \"doosh!\" bass sound?", "His accent coach just told him that everything is nasal all the time.", "I still think he's completely miscast in this. Nothing against his acting, he just feels wrong for this character.\n\nI never read the comics, but seems to me Dr. Strange should look like a magician, not like Hans Gruber as a puppy", "If Wanda gets her sons back, they could be in as well. In the comics they are (using the names Wiccan and Speed).\n\nThere's going to be an Ironheart show. Riri Williams could also join the Young Avengers.", "No mustache on the evil twin?", "That's the way this series has always been. If you haven't sat through all the previous material there will be a lot you've missed. That being said, it's not really that hard to find a recap video on YouTube if you want to get filled in on important info without having watched the show. You won't be missing much to be completely honest. The shows haven't had much substance apart from Loki and kind of What If. I wish they would have just been movies. Way too much filler. Maybe Mandalorian raised my expectations too high lol.", "DAE find his accent weird? \n\nI'm not American so maybe he is doing a good job but I always find the hard, rolling R's just off putting and gimmicky like he was told American accents are rhotic so go hard on that. The same with Hugh Laurie's House accent (which I guess I'm the only one that thinks it's weird since it's always touted as a good example of non-Americans doing a good American accent).", "I'm over superhero shit. Start making something original.", "I think iron heart will be the iron man rep, she is getting her own show afterall.", "Vision vs Boat", "No recognizable to you maybe, but people (fanboys) were comic book fans of a lot of heroes unknown to the general public way before the movies came out.", "It kills me how people go and watch every MCU movie then shit on the movies on threads about the movies, like that’s going to make them go away lol", "Plus considering there is a black loki, child loki, and an alligator loki, then they do not in fact have the same parents even if we compared the DNA.", "It's looking like it might be the doctor strange from what if.\n\nIf so he has a lot more eldritch powers than regular strange does.", "Fanboys.", "I think he means more Evil Dead style Ash vs Ash cheesiness which I’m all for.", "I always thought his Doctor Strange sounded like Dennis Quaid.", "I know I'm going to get down voted for saying this, but just because of that title, its probably going to be the only MCU movie I'm not going to see.", "Not surprising to be honest. Raimi was hired as a substitute after Derrickson quit 4 months before production. Thats not much time to change things.", "Not surprising to be honest. Raimi was hired as a substitute after Derrickson quit 4 months before production. Thats not much time to change things.", "There has been something like [500 Superhero / Comic book film since 2000](https://flightstightsandmovienights.com/review-index/the-list/) which is about 2 a month. Two thirds of my life I've just been bombarded with these films, I want something new, and I don't want the quality of these films to decline and become stale for those who do enjoy them.", "Hawkeye picks up considerably in episode 3. Pretty good after that.", "There should be, mainly ignoring it.", "Im Tired of all the marvel Boring Ass Movies. Stop the cringy fanservice and invent something new", "I will keep that in mind thanks", "> Wandavision was ok but slow. \n\nMaybe if you watch it as it releases 1 episode a week but not if you watch them in like 3 sittings. Since the episodes are so short the 9 episode show is like the length of 2 Marvel Movies. \n\nThe first 5 of 9 episodes combined are slightly shorter than the latest Spiderman movie.\nCondense them much further and it would just be a long movie, but it works better as a TV show because it allows the episodes to transition between black and white and colour and stuff.\n\nIt's not exactly dragged out. All their shows are surprisingly not dragged out. Hawkeye is only 6 40 min or so episodes. Loki was also only 6 episodes. 6 episodes is quite low.", "I never started until recently, so I’m loving all the content that’s out there. I get to be picky, because they’re all just sitting there for streaming.", "Have you watched Logan? You might enjoy it.", "Is that the one where Wolverine's taking care of that little girl? If so, I saw it but remember nothing. Otherwise, if it's a newer movie I'll take a look.\n\nI'd just like an actual *world*, not just a small group of random superhero's. Let me see the publics opinion on them, political problems spawning from them, how other countries/people/cultures view superhero's. How laws, social stuff, and technology evolves around a world with superhero's. Despite being called a \"Universe\" Marvel's world is *extremely* bare on anything that's not directly related to their superhero's sadly (in the movies, obviously comics are different).\n\nSo much more than predictable enemies and CG-infested fight scenes could be done.\n\nI watched that other Superhero TV show, known for being quite brutal, forget the name. That's a good example, because there's more going on than *just* the superhero's. The characters also aren't extremely dumbed down caricatures specifically designed to appeal to the broadest audience possible either. Give me actually complex characters. Give me more complex plots than \"Bad guy has world ending device, stahp pls\".\n\nI don't know, Watchmen was good. I'll have to check out 'Logan' as well. If it's the movie I remember where he's got the little girl, it was one of the good ones from what I can remember. If not, I'll check it out, thanks.", "Winter soldier tv show and wandavision ending was a nosedive into pavement.", "God forbid we present opposing points of view", "ProZD called this half a decade ago. Marvel movie villains\n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zPEtyAsM94", "Yeah, because animated films, which are entirely CGI, have zero creative effort. /s\n\nIf you don't like it, that's fine. Everyone has different taste. But if you honestly can't see why others like it, that says more about you than it does them.", "There is that. That could be interesting.", "I've got anything better to do than get into it over kids movies. Great psychology lesson though, thanks reddit. Lmao. Have a good one.", "Ah come on. First of all whole multiverse thing is just cheap crap these days. Everyone seems to be into it and it's gotten stale. Next biggest cliche with whole multiverse is the evil me thing.\n\nSuch a disappointment. This is the only character I like from Marvel and they made this cheap crap plot twist.", "Reddit frogs keep crying about superhero movies", "Streets are saying he's showing up in Black Panther 2.", "Holy shit he really did call evil doctor strange", "Ok everyone should watch Loki, it's the best one.", "Me too but I don't think I'll ever be burnt out on my favorite MCU characters. And until I actually see the movie that still includes Doctor Strange. My full list not burnt out on include Spider Man, Doctor Strange, Thor, Ant Man, Captain Marvel. (RIP Chadwick, and the characters of Iron Man / Captain America)\n\nHopefully some of the Fox properties like Fantastic Four are well executed. \n\nEven though I liked Shang Chi I didn't care for exactly the way it expanded the mythology. It really does feel like every region of Earth will have its magic kingdom within. Too much going on when you have a fighting pit full of super people / mutants / monsters. I liked the series best when it was a little more grounded in most of the time.\n\nSpider Man No Way Home is probably one of my favorite MCU movies. That said, it's painful to hear the shitty Venom and Morbius movies are joining the MCU." ]
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videos
Multiverse of Madness
https://youtu.be/23VaPtkWWkc
/r/videos/comments/rm8kzp/jaco_pastorious_word_of_mouth_sextet/
[ "As a musician i find this interesting. As music listener, i don't get the charm. The composition is quite non existent, it is just organized jamming, exploring less travelled paths. The amount of training needed is nowhere near worth it, apart from getting better of course. But the song itself is not worth it.", "People are probably going to downvote you but I agree with you. He found a formula for travelling up and down the scale with half steps and syncopated notes and left out the whole \"these notes have meaning\" thing. That being said, as a bass player of over 35 years, I wish I could play 1/10 as well as Pastorious did.", "Yup, i find liking more modern jazz more each yeah, but not as a music listener but more as musician and eternal student of musical theory. I still don't listen to it when i want to kick back and relax, but it is often inspirational.. specially if i don't agree with the choices..\n\nBut, experimental music tends to be like that, i do not listen to that stuff either, but they are often inspirational, you hear things you thought were... \"forbidden\", used in a novel way. And again, it is really about disagreeing a lot, and then wanting to try it myself, how can i do it better (spoiler: i can't, but something nice happens when you are out of your comfort zone..). I didn't have Einsturzende Neubauten albums because i loved it, pretty much the exact opposite, i hated it but.. it was inspirational." ]
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Jaco Pastorious - Word of Mouth Sextet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_l2ii_25tc
/r/videos/comments/rm8y5r/chitty_chitty_bang_bang_star_sally_ann_howes_dies/
[ "[She was best known for playing the role of Truly Scrumptious in the 1968 musical film Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, opposite Dick Van Dyke.](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59753882)", "So happy she blessed us with Truly Scrumptious. One of my favorite characters from one of my favorite movies. She'll definitely be missed.", "This role was responsible for an entire generation's freeuse fetish.", "Did this woman... pioneer pop-and-lock? Surely there can't be any earlier examples?", "1968 and this girl could pop and lock! May she rest in peace.", "Show my five year old this scene a few months ago and she absolutely loved it.\n\nRIP Sally.", "I watched this at a very young age.\n\nThe fact that there was a Child Catcher really fucked with my head.", "I'm sorry to learn that Sally Ann Howes passed away. This performance in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was so magical.", "Dick Van Dyke still going strong at 96, married a 40yo eight years ago when he was 86. A smoker his entire life until 9 years ago when he switched to nicorette gum.", "The child catcher was straight nightmare fuel", "I think it is highly based on this from an opera written in the late 1800's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdrPJiyT7wo" ]
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Chitty Chitty Bang Bang star Sally Ann Howes dies aged 91
https://youtu.be/nGhOssPumUU
/r/videos/comments/rm954k/asian_boss_what_do_the_chinese_think_of_the/
[ "They love it!\n\nThey have no choice but to love it. Not loving it costs you points on the social credit system.", "I would suggest that you at least watch the video", "The irony from this vid... that last guy talking about how Americans are just in their own bubble.... from his government controlled and curated bubble. \n\nMy biggest take away is how controlled information is over there. Some did not know there was a social aspect of it and none of them knew it was already being implemented. That and the repeated exact talking points like the bike rentals and umbrellas shows the indoctrination. Either they were repeating the same points that have been drilled into them through propaganda or they were all actors coached to say the same thing. \n\nThe whole thing reeks of pro CCP fake bullshit, especially that jab at the US about COVID at the end.", "[Or maybe.... it's not real!](https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/)\n\nThey're not talking about bike rentals or umbrellas because they're \"talking points,\" it's because if you ask someone \"what's a credit score for\" (WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE) they're gonna go \"uh it's a financial score for loan crediting..?\"\n\nThe amount of inane bullshit people like you will believe if it's fed to them by RFA or some other Natsec outlet is pretty extraordinary. \n\n\nThese are just normal fukn people on the street you absolute weirdo. Have you even been to China? It's pretty nice over here, I dunno!", ".... damn reddit is fukn wild lmfao\n\nClassic uh ccp rag ForeignPolicy", "Just like those fake student protests in 89!! Sometimes you gotta hose the trash down the drain.", ">The whole thing reeks of pro CCP fake bullshit, especially that jab at the US about COVID at the end.\n\nIf you think \"jab at the US about COVID\" is a CCP thing then you really live in your own bubble lol.", ".. what?", "Maybe information should have a level of control? They don't have retarded anti-vaxers.\n\nAnd maybe its also because the general population cannot understand English? \n\nWhy would the gov let fake news of a social credit system run rampant on the internet. Theres 1.4 billion people, even 1% falling for it will have significant impact." ]
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Asian Boss | What Do The Chinese Think Of The Social Credit System?
https://youtu.be/0FZJHlx5Crw
/r/videos/comments/rm9u95/att_customer_service/
[ "Pretty much a good example of the US healthcare system. The most expensive joke in the world.", "Even when you get somewhere with it - they will deny your coverage.", "Glitch in the matrix, once again", "It would be more justified if it was a glitch and not on purpose.", "The HR customer service is outsourced and the FSA will require so much paper work that it's easier to simply not contribute.", "My friend is a manager at AT+T. He’s worked there for 25 years. Started climbing up those poles, worked on laying fiber, then he worked with outsourcing repairs and contracts. He was promised healthcare for life after retirement. A month ago they said that at the end of this year they are getting rid of that and if you keep working you agree to giving up that benefit. So his choices were give up that benefit or find a new job in 2 months or quit. \nSo fucked up. How can they promise a benefit then take it back right when you near retirement?", "Thats why I am a big fan of 401k's and the like. While its not healthcare related, at least a company can't change its mind and take it away from you. \n\nProbably the more capitalist side of my views", "Agreed. You see all these bankrupt pensions in states. My 401k may not be much but its mine.", "This is what business owners and managers love. In their tiny minds, they believe that a frustrated customer is a happy customer. They want you foaming at the mouth angry by the time they are able to get to a person.\n\nI used to work in a call center where management wanted to make it so that you had to enter your order number to confirm that you were still under warranty. If you weren't, you couldn't get through.\n\nWho the hell has their order number 9 months later? Also, the order number had underscores in it. Where's that on the phone? They wanted to make an excessively complicated IVR that, in the end, would be transferred to one of two departments. Customer service, or Tech support. That was all. They just wanted to get the customer good and mad first.\n\nI'll never understand it. A human can route a call in less than 5 seconds. Getting through Comcasts IVR takes at least 10 minutes before you find a person. You get transferred back to the beginning, you get hung up on, you end up in the wrong department and they can't transfer out, you're left at a VM for janitorial services. Just have a human answer the phone and route me. It's cheap and easy.", "LPT:Take your phone off speak when using an automated system.", "That's why I am a fan of unions." ]
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ATT Customer Service
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKW58MS12g
/r/videos/comments/rmaoqk/glitterbomb_trap_catches_phone_scammer_who_gets/
[ "Bro. What a legend.", "These videos where cool a couple years ago, but now there’s so many and they’re all so similar. Some of them seem fake, some are outright vindictive. It’s just overdone unfortunately", "It's just fake as fuck", "My man must have reached lv 3 gay to unlock that.", "You realize that guy is a somewhat famous engineer who used to work for NASA right?" ]
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Glitterbomb Trap Catches Phone Scammer (who gets arrested)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhAJxAoDzu4&t=48s
/r/videos/comments/rmb0dz/a_big_fish_in_a_small_pond/
[ "Every time I watch Ricky and Karl, I feel like Ricky is the small brained idiot he is trying to paint Karl as.", "👍🏻", "Ricky and Karl reminds me of the argument over cheese [https://youtu.be/vyyyh8\\_Afyw](https://youtu.be/vyyyh8_Afyw) Karl being Webb and Ricky being Mitchell. Both of them are complete idiots but Webb makes his stupidity way too obvious and easy to attack. \n\n\nRicky only ever seems competent enough to point out when someone says something stupid and take the opportunity to laugh at it.", "Huge assholes, small country." ]
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a big fish in a small pond
https://youtu.be/moW17YHl6B8
/r/videos/comments/rmb1d0/the_matrix_1999_vs_dark_city_1998/
[ "What's next, are you gonna tell me Armageddon and Deep Impact are essentially the same movie? Dante's Peak and Volcano? Antz and A Bugs Life????", "Those films basically came out simultaneously and were regarded as such. In this case one came out well after the other and was considered transformative. Not trying to bash on Matrix which is a personal favorite, but give credit to Dark City where it's due.", "Yep, they're called [twin films](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films).", "What about The 13th Floor?\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQcOLSaDd1w", "1999 ... 1998 ...\n\nIt's uh, it's in the title.", "Came here to say this. The Matrix is still one of my favorite movies, and I hadn't heard of The 13th Floor until just a few years ago, but tbh... they did the idea better. That movie is great.", "Dude filming started in March 1998 and wrapped in August 1998. Also, it was pitched in 1994 (I think). It's simply a case of twin films.\n\nAnd to be clear Dark City kind of flopped at the box office because it was release super early in the year, but it is still a cult classic.", "I remember being totally stoked for the 13th Floor, went to go see it and was pretty cheesed at the ending....", "I don’t think OP understands how long film production actually takes. Just because one film came out in 1999 and the other came out in 1998… The amount of production that went into both of these films… It isn’t even possible for one to have copied the other.", "Both films are masterclasses on intertwining philosophy and sci-fi: What is real? What is identity?", "Keanu Reeves vs. What's His Face" ]
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The Matrix (1999) vs. Dark City (1998)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B139-IqKcqg
/r/videos/comments/rmb49q/abbas_bass_player_plays_dancing_queen/
[ "A bit of background from a comment by the YT uploader:\n\n>Just for the record. I hadn´t told Rutger in advance that I wanted him to play along with any song. So we were digging out a white Fender Jazz and a similar Precision from the deep of a cabin in his apartement. And this was the the bass he had played in the session as well. This was the first take. He hadn´t played Dancing queen for ages. Probably over 10 years since the last time.", "What a legend", "Great player, terrible song", "Why's it terrible?", "Great player, great bassline BUT in the studio recording he plays a bum note just after the 3 minute mark. I've always wondered about it... Did nobody in the room notice? Did they not have time to go back and fix it? I want answers, Gunnarsson!", "Wow! He was workin' that bass.", "Maybe the musicians were sort of jazz wannabes and enjoyed the realness of this bit. \n\nYou bring up a good point though, because ABBA were consummate perfectionists. It is odd.", "Taste is subjective. No need to challange it.", "That smile - that's the zone to be in, thanks for posting this", "A 4 string guitar where every note sounds the same to any normal person", "thousands of wedding DJ's would disagree...", "More like no need to comment in an ABBA thread if you think their music is terrible...", "Anthony Bourdain rolling in his grave", "Must be sad to experience music that way, definitely not normal", "I expected him to play for a few seconds, set it down and walk away.", "As a bass player, I just listened to it around 2:50-3:20 and noticed nothing wrong. What do you mean bum note? Like he hit something out of scale or he missed a strike and accidentally muted/missed a note? Do you mean at 3:04 when he ascends the scale?\n\nMaybe I could see a note or two in there that seem off", "This is the worst hot take I've seen in awhile.\n\nObviously you have never heard of Jaco Pastorius, Thundercat, Geddy Lee, Sting, Flea, P-Nut, Robert Trujillo, Sheehan, Larry Graham, Victor Wooten, Les Claypool ( I am missing soooo fucking many legends) and have never heard a bass slap and pop.\n\nEducate yourself, you might be surprised that, in fact, a bass guitar is not a 4 string guitar. \n\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8FBaYlOkEA&ab\\_channel=PlumbDrums](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8FBaYlOkEA&ab_channel=PlumbDrums) \n\n\nEven 30 seconds of watching this Thundercat solo clip, whether you hate his style or not, you have to admit a bass is not just a guitar. \\*Trigger warning\\* His bass guitar has 6 strings, and it doesn't sound like a 6 string guitar.", "I mean, in the old days of recording there were lots of little oddities like that. A lot of bands tended to speed up, slow down, miss notes or miss hit notes and they don't get noticed because of recording methods at the time. \n\n\nIts why a lot of people prefer older recording styles to newer ones due to it having a more natural sounds/feel.", "Bass player and musician here as well, couldn’t hear anything him in that section. Maybe a passing tone but all in correct key", "There's no bum note there. A little expression and going up to the higher octave. They'd go back and \"fix it\" these days alright, that's why modern pop music is so sterile and boring.", "I agree maybe a passing tone perhaps, but all in key and swung the groove which is the most important thing. Nowt bum about it.", "Is asking you to explain your opinion a challenge?", "did he dislike ABBA or something?", "This one is overplayed for sure, but ABBA has some jams, dude.", "Idk the video says RIP Rutger", "If he played the same note for every note, you would quickly notice something was wrong. That applies to practically every song ever made. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about", "Amazing clip. I'll contribute with a translation of what he says in the beginning:\n\n> It's been so long since I've held one of these. You have five strings nowadays.", "damn he could be in a band", "Just goes into autoBASS", "Lol. Okey-dokey.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/n-eH8tkIs9s", "This may be the dumbest troll comment i've ever seen. Well done lol.", "It's interesting how you comment that ABBA were perfectionists, yet oddly let an \"obvious mistake\" go, while not beforehand checking the validity of the factoid you replied to.", "It's interesting that you claim a normal person would experience an array of differing pitches as the same note. Whether or not you will accept a fact that is contradictory to your view, the vast majority of humans are able to tell different notes apart regardless of their pitch. I feel legitimate sorrow for anyone like you who is incapable of discerning different notes in music, as it must make almost all music incomprehensibly boring to people that share your unfortunate deafness to tonality.", "There’s a particular ‘jazzy’ note at 3:11. I am guessing this is it.\n\n[dancing queen](https://youtu.be/xFrGuyw1V8s)", "Could be the note at 3:11, as he is descending back down. I could see that note catching someone's ear. The more you listen to it in context, the more right it sounds, but it sounds a bit off at first.", "Huh ??👂🏼🤚🏼", "Shrug. It sounds like an awkward flub. There's no more information to go on than that.", "What a strange opinion. By normal person, I'm assuming you meant tone deaf.", "Yeah sounds he bent it sharp a little.", "The bass is useless and unnecessary in a lot of music. If you play this song with no bass guitar, it's better. The bass here sounds like somebody was really good at farting while everyone else is playing music.", "Ok ? 😂👍", "Why does his name not start with an A or B?", "Well yeah?! It’s his job?😩😬😬😬😫😫🤔🤔😆😆😤😤😳😳😳😉🍑🥛😅😕", "Other than this, have you enjoyed visiting our planet?", "Other than this, have you enjoyed visiting our planet?", "Ugh I don't think I could ever play an instrument, the amount of focus and dexterity visible here just makes me feel sick! I suppose by that point it's all second nature.", "Idk what you're talking about, this sounds totally normal to me https://m.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=qdTPdig3A9U", "Honestly, I usually don't even notice bass guitar in most music. It kicks ass in Seinfeld, though.", "I am not a musician, but I did read a few pages of a \"Bass Guitar for Dummies\" book a decade ago. If I recall, it suggested that for most songs, the base can be unnoticeable but essential to a song. It is laying the groundwork for the other instruments to build on. With that said, they also wrote that bad bass will completely ruin a song, moreso than if the other instruments were playing poorly.\n\nCertainly there are many songs where the bass is highlighted, but for lots of pop and pop rock music it is the foundation instead of the lead.", "I think he was their studio musician, ie. when you listen to the album versions of their songs, it's him you would be hearing.", "You ask \"Why's it terrible?\", as if his opinion was objectively true. The person thinks its terrible. So what?", "I just figured it was part of the slide down the scale. Never gave it a second thought.", "Check out this cool bass solo \"boom boom boom boom boom\" now check this cool other one \"boom boom boom boom\"", "I'll bet that book was either written by a bass player or written specifically to pander to bass players.\n\nBecause I've heard that argument, too. But if I can't hear the baseline, no amount of gaslighting is gonna convince me I heard something I didn't!\n\nEdit: I am musically inclined, I can play guitar, ukulele, piano and violin. I've played with friends and I've played bass. The only time I enjoyed it was when you could hear it clearly. Far too often, the bass is hidden behind half a dozen other instruments or its replaced with a synthetic and there's hardly any other instruments.", "I just want people to elaborate and not leave flippant comments.", "And ABBA consisted of two singers (A and A), a pianist who wrote most/all of the music (B) and a guitarist who wrote most/all lyrics (B). \n\nIn the studio and on tour they were accompanied by drummers, more guitarists and bassplayers." ]
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ABBA's bass player plays Dancing Queen
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmbc8a/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rmbc8a/deleted_by_user/
[ "Definitely doesn’t help with traffic flow when you have pedestrians crossing all willy billy with no regard for their well being.\n\nedit: I like the sound of willy billy better anyway, I’m leaving it.", "Obviously, nobody had come up with J-walking laws yet.", "I was just wondering as I was watching it about this.\n\nLike how many people a year got ran over, crushed, or hit by a bike/bus/tram/car.", "Ridiculous amount of AI upscaling. Looks like a video game that hasn't loaded in the textures.", "Still some hipsters on bicycles weaving in and out of traffic too!", "Interesting how the streets weren't \"owned\" by cars yet.", "Of a hundred upscaled videos, I have seen two which have done it right. \n\nEvery other time, you lose a lot of information. This is one of the most ridiculous examples yet, but they are almost all pretty bad.", "The the AI colorization is terrible, too. It's distracting when the colors are constantly shifting and it looks nothing close to reality. I'd rather just watch it in black and white.", "What went on in LA in 1910?", "Probably not that many when they're all going 5 miles per hour.", "Was there gas stations back then? How did people fill up their car?", "I like it.", "I could be wrong but I remember reading that a lot of these videos were filmed during the boom of the cities and each major city had videos like this as a form of propaganda to portray their city as busy and booming. Just made to look more enticing for people to move to." ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iLv_fFqHcA
/r/videos/comments/rmbxhh/cartman_vs_kyle_a_fight_24_years_in_the_making/
[ "What episode is that?", "It's from the Paramount+ Exclusive episode, Post Covid: The Return of Covid.", "I absolutely loved how you expect Cartman to just cry like he usually does, but he just beats the fuck out of Kyle" ]
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Cartman vs Kyle: A Fight 24 Years in the Making
https://youtu.be/W0jy28g4W1M
/r/videos/comments/rmcfx2/this_new_a24_movie_is_different_rough_pants_2021/
[ "holy shit this looks like the real thing. Just needs willem dafoe.", "Now this is a movie I need to see! 👀👖🔪", "This is hilarious but also pretty spooky!", "This is amazing", "Live by the pants die by the pants", "when’s the release?!?!", "I love pants", "Nice pants hahaha", "I'll kill a small child for pants like that", "How would a dog wear those pants?", "our father, who art in denim 🙏🏻", "Someone definitely watched Akira.", "shark jumping alert\n\nEDIT holy shit it's a fucking parody.\n\ni have been 'GOTTEM'ed", "Our father, who art in denim…", "Spicy pants you've got there mate", "Nailed it. Amidst all of the Marvel criticism these days as formulaic I have been low key building my own theory that A24 films are equally formulaic. They are manufactured “deep” movies. I’ll still keep watching them but it’s already getting old. This parody highlights the formula perfectly.", "Much appreciated 🙏", "High and tight", "THIS haha thanks so much!", "Fun fact this is actual a sequel to \"Smooth Pants\"\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HF-9EZtSQE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HF-9EZtSQE)", "Don't you hate pants?", "Oh look, somebody shilling their youtube channel again", "Touching my camera through the fence", "I'd do anything for the right pair", "Oh damn you fooled me lol", "Which is a prequel to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pants_on_Fire_(film)", "😂😂😂", "I want to see the feature of this!", "Omg yes please haha", "that soundtrack is iconic", "you did it", "I didnt choose the pants life, the pants life chose me.", "Hallowed be thy frays.", "Hallowed be thy frays...", "dont forget the belt.", "the OG", "if not the movies themselves the trailers definitely are formulaic, and this fits in so well.", "Mostly just friends, but thanks bro.", "I straight up did not realize this was a parody. I'd watch it. Jesus.", "🙏🙏", "front legs only", "trailer is still 🔥though.", "Marvel movies equally formulaic as A24 films...\n\nWould love to see your thought process on this lol", "Thank you!", "i think its tight.", "Hark Levi, hark! Bellow, bid our father the Denim king rise from the depths full foul in his fury! Blue denim teeming with ball sweat to smother this young mouth with pungent crotch smell, to choke ye", "I'm sure you do. Your last 13 posts have been in this thread.", "This guy knows", "This feels like a Dimensional cable bit from Rick and Morty", "A24 doesn't just release horror movies, they release all kinds of stuff. Marvel movies are ALL superhero movies. I don't understand Jskidmore's logic here.", "Kev you and your production team are fucking amazing, when are we getting an HBO miniseries?", "You never know! Thanks bro!", "yeah cause it’s a good trailer", "Akira music, nice.", "Is this a Wayans' parody of the lighthouse?", "There is no thought process, it's just a garbage opinion.", "This shit had me FOOLED I was gonna google the release date and everything\n\nAlso the boy who plays the bad guy is really cute 👀", "Awesome trailer!", "Honestly I haven't seen an A24 movie I enjoyed in like 4 years. And I think many of their older movies are great.", "I'm sure you think that too because you only have 4 posts and they're all in this thread", "I had this exact thought while watching \"Lamb\". It was like I could feel the moment when the counter-culture became it's own culture and I felt dirty.", "What?", "Yeah The Lighthouse and Uncut Gems, those two movies are so completely similar, because they’re ‘deep’ even though they’re completely different in setting, tone, genre, basically everything, they’re ‘formulaic’ just like the company that sets every movie in the same universe (or multiverse) and are always some variety of action movie!", "Keep feathering it brother!", "My Gf was playing the trailer in the other room and the moment that music started I was hypnotically drawn to it's source.", "Reminds me of the how to make jorts BDG video.", "Any inspiration from Brian David Gilbert’s how to make jorts?", "This was not as funny as the people who made it think it was.", "Hello my queen above 18", "God I thought this was a parody of all A24 films but it’s an actual A24 film. Do the pants turn into a denim deity and slaughter everyone on the farm. That’s probably what happens.", "It's like the Weird Al version of The Lighthouse.", "Hahaha probably", "This sounds like the opinion of someone who’s seen a few trailers for A24 movies but never actually watched one.", "So I humbly admit my stupidity but can someone explain some further context to me? It’s really well made but seems like a parody of some sort? Is this a group of well known jokesters that make these parody trailers often? Is just a onetime thing from a YouTuber? Just curious, thanks.", "I always thought Lady Bird and Heriditary were too similar too.", "Uncut Gems is the biggest exception. Most of the rest, yea they are fairly formulaic in their composition. The trailer here showcases why perfectly.", "I’ve watched and enjoyed many of them. Uncut Gems, The Eggers movies, Lamb, Green Knight, Cmon Cmon, and Midsommar are what come to mind.", "There seems to be an A24 Genre of it's own almost. Outside of this post, and the current arguments within it, you would absolutely know what someone means when they say an \"A24 style\" movie. I think Jskidmore is saying those \"style\" of movies are formulaic and it turns out they probably are if this trailer feels like one of those movies.", "Hello! Rough Pants director here! So yes this is a parody of A24 trailers haha Im an indie director/dp and this was just something we did for fun! We made one of these last year, (Smooth pants) and was alot of fun, so since work was dying down for this time of year we thought it would be fun to do another! The last one was just me and Kevin (the pants guy) but this time I got some friends together and tried to see how ridiculous we could make it!", "Hi mommy", "Sure!\nRed Gemini for most of this with a few komodo shots in the flashback stuff. Lens wise we shot with Kowa Evolutions with a 1/8 Hollywood black magic and firecrest IR NDs. This was just a small shoot, total crew 5 people plus 2 actors and 2 extras shot across 2 days with the second day just being me and Kevin!\n\nAs far as lighting all the outdoor stuff was just right time of day with nets and all the enteriors are aputure novas/300x and bounce.\n\nI'm a gear nerd so I'm happy to answer anything! Haha", "Cool. But I’m not sure how you can watch those seven movies and claim any sort of formula, let alone one comparable to the MCU or other superhero movies. \n\nThe only thing that Uncut Gems, Midsommar, and C’mon C’mon have in common are a production company. What exactly is the formula you think they share?", "Thanks Jeans", "So... why do people have such a hard on for A24 movies?", "Dude wow really appreciate you responding directly, that’s cool of you.\n\nHey man it was extremely well done! Like, so well done that I had to wonder if this was a legit movie! I really liked the video and I love the parody aspect. Thanks a lot for the personal response and you’ve added a fan! Im gonna subscribe and share with my buds, this video is gold!\n\nThanks and take care!", "Please make this feature length. I would watch the shit out of this.", "Ahh! Thanks so much! That's amazing haha hope everyone likes it!", "Was that one bit of audio from Akira?", "Yup! \"Dolls polyphony\"", "What's that???", "Boom", "For real! I've always found this song infectious", "The soundtrack and effects were spot on.", "Seriously? It's a trailer for a movie bro. Not sure why you're making it more complicated than it needs to be.", "I watched the whole thing and I still can't tell if this is a parody trailer or an actual movie.", "Smoooooooth Paaaaaants", "This is fucking brilliant, the actors are fantastic, i wish you nothing but endless success, and as an actor I hope to god to work with you some how some day.", "Sublime", "They tend to be really, really beautiful films. Beautiful cinematography, very meticulous mise en scene, etc. They also tend not to conform to the classic Hollywood ways of storytelling. They're just quality films the vast majority of the time.", "Oh man for real? I was about to look it up on Letterboxd to put it on my wishlist. I thought something might have been up because of the Akira soundtrack. Great work, you should pitch it to A24!", "I'm tearing up!", "Okay but Farmer Dave served that cake on a silver platter and I wasn’t ready", "That was awesome and, while I don't care for horror films, you got my interest and I wanted to read the synopsis/plot points. WELL DONE!", "A crew of 5 in 2 days, much respect my man.", "A24 doesn't have a \"style\" because of its varied genres and themes, but OK I guess", "https://youtube.com/watch?v=iZYKOll6G7M&feature=share", "Came here to say this. Good on ya.", "I would love to make it if they'll have me!", "Hahaha", "YASS", "I don't think I've ever seen any of them. To me when I hear people rave about a films cinematography it rubs me as kind of pretentious, like when Crash came out, people and that clown show of the Oscars raved about it, but it was just boring, predictable and derivative garbage. But I get that some people like different things. I've never really cared about cinematography. I'm definitely more of a fan of great story telling and character development. However, most of the time movies just aren't long enough to tell the best stories and/or have enough time to develop characters or tell a good story. Good tv shows with a lot of seasons are much better at that. But also sometimes like some brain dead stuff to just space out. Also, there just haven't been that many good movies out lately. Of course that is definitely the fault of the massive MCU and other superhero movies, and the ridiculous amount of sequels they keep churning out (ie, no one asked for that many fast and furious movies lol). But I do enjoy most of the MCU movies, because a lot of the time they are just brain dead fun movies and that's their point. But because they are all part of the same \"story\" they have had a chance to actually develop the story quite well over all of those movies. Much better than I thought they would. I'm ready for the avalanche of downvotes after saying MCU movies are enjoyable in the circlejerk that is r/movies lol.", "[Gonna revise your Levi's with physical harm, put divots in your rivets with my physical arm ](https://youtu.be/SeTM3DTTxxI)", "should be in r/funny", "This has got to be a parody.", "Because they are awesome and weird as fuck.\n\nGive a few a watch\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A24_films\n\nI'd recommend for you\n\n- Ex Machina\n- The Witch\n- The Lobster\n- Eighth Grade\n- Mid90s\n- High Life\n- Midsommar\n- The Lighthouse\n- Uncut Gems\n- Minari (highly recommend)\n- The Green Knight\n- The Death of Dick Long", "My man, WOW. I had no idea it was a parody, and was legitimately looking forward to seeing it. Outstanding work! \n\n^((also, maybe actually go make it please, if only just for me...))", "You find others appreciating quality art as pretentious? Can't you let someone else enjoy something you don't personally care much about without being judgemental over something that isn't hurting anyone?\n\nYour telling everyone that this place is a circle jerk and that you are ready for an avalanche of downvotes is a self fulfilling prophecy. I mean you just kinda mildly insulted most everyone here and acting antagonistic when their was no need to do so.\n\nSeems more pretentious that you are acting like people are going to really care that much about your comment when really they are likely going to read it without a strong emotional response. I don't feel that strongly about your comment, I just find it weird when people make a big deal about how much they will be hated for saying something mild and how they preface it is more dramatic than the actual content.", ">So yes this is a parody of A24 trailers\n\nOh *thank god*. Well done. Some parts were over the top (like the barn shot and him squeezing the cow pies) and telegraphing that this is a parody, but the rest of it is of such high quality and reflective of serious effort that I was seriously wondering if this wasn't a real trailer.\n\nGreat work, but holy fuck am I relieved that I'm not going to watch a full length production this unsettling. That score choice with the voices and the quick shots is inspired.", "I’d watch the shit out of that movie", "Is it [Nábrók](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A1br%C3%B3k), the icelandic witchcraft human skin pants?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx3ORAO1Y6s", "This was so well done that I actually thought it was real up until the two minute mark when I happened to glance down at the description", "I'm ashamed to admit I actually had to check IMDB to make sure this wasn't a real movie...", "Ok", "uhh. mmm... yea no", "I see your rough pants, your smooth pants... but real Gs are bout those wet pants:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\\_R5jXTim6Xs", "Man. As someone who actually enjoys A24 movies I didn't see it was a parody and actually thought it was real and they had finally just lost all their marbles and started greenlighting any weird horror premise. Well done.", "That's where it spits", "Does anyone doubt that this would be good regardless of this ridiculous trailer?", "Shoulda followed proto", "Thy belt undone", "I was waiting for the turn to say, JEANS.", "This took me way too long to realize this wasn't a real A24 movie lmao", "😂😂😂", "Admit it, this whole trailer idea was just a cover so you could stick your hand in cow shit and squish it around without being judged.", "Captured A24 perfectly. Well done.", "Thy sturdy cotton spun", "Napoleon was never the same after Kip moved out.", "You bastard, you got my hopes up that I'd get to catch another horror movie starring Hayes MacArthur as a guy very-similar-to-but-distinct-from Chester Conklin.\n\nThe antagonist in *I'm Just Fucking With You* is in my top 5, easily.", "Hilarious freaking clip. Also \"a lot\" is two words. Thanks!", "How in the world do you afford a $24,950 camera??? Are you renting??", "😂😂", "The nevernude community has gone too far.", "I'm here for it", "On Lee as it is in Wrangler", "If you really like it you should listen to [this,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dN1UowShBk) same composer.", "that dinner scene is giving me always sunny in the suburbs vibes.", "I almost thought this was going to be something like Slaxx……", "That's just the brain/body. Then you need lenses, and since he says they're using Kowa Evolutions, we know those cost around $15k each, and they're definitely using more than one. Then you need storage (SSDs), filters, something to mount it to, like a rig, lighting, monitors, mics/audio recording equipment.. \n \nSo they might be renting, or it's equipment that their production company owns, that gets a lot of use year round. \n \nBut yeah, the $25k for the camera body is just a part of the overall gear cost.", "No", "Ahh Grammer, my only weakness!", "Of course! Haha while I do own a komodo, I work part time in the slow season at a rental house in Pittsburgh so I was able to get the gear at a discount!", "Correct! No production company as I like being a freelancer but yes! Rented most of the gear for the shoot!", "I get what he's saying and I feel the same, hence why we made this trailer haha, after watching Lamb (personally was disappointed) it all clicked. A24 is almost its own genre in that your almost always in for an \"artsy\" slow burn, with a few exceptions. They usually have fewer cuts, longer takes, and a bigger focus on less in more. As someone else commented, the fact when you hear \"A24\" associated with something you immediately have an idea of the tone and what kind of movie your in for. Now this is just my opinion and obviously there are different genres but alot of the movies are paced similar", "110%, came here to say that too. One for those who know", "Give us ombre, our hazy leg", "Rumor has it that the directors cut is even better, really takes it up a notch and has a leg up on the original version", "This looks so stupid. Like an SNL skit instead of horror. WTF", "Thank you for explaining. I first watch rough pants, then saw smooth pants and watched it and no clarity was gained lol. Lol. Very well done shorts though. I mean pants.", "Shit sandwich.", "I don't get it. I probably won't watch it.", "A True Religion.", "Yer fond of me Wranglers arent ye!", "Looks better than Rubber, I kind of thought it was real for a bit but then I watch and read weird shit", "I appreciate this so much because A24 has really almost begun to parody itself at this point.", "I'm not fat I have a six pack. Keep running your mouth and I'll be running a train on you", "“Alot” isn’t a word. A lot of people don’t learn this.", "Rentals are common, but also remember that Cameras are a business investment. While some people are able to save enough to pay $30k+ in one go, many other people take out a loan from a bank to finance their camera. Seems like a lot of money but when you consider how many people are out there spending tens of thousands on their cars, it’s pretty understandable to take out a loan on something that will help generate income. \n\nAnd $25k for the body is on the lower end of legitimate cinema cameras. I’ve got friends/colleagues who have taken out $50k+ loans to buy higher end cameras. It’s a lot but when you suddenly get to add $1k to your day rate, it pays itself off.", "Dude same, it totally feels like it could be a real movie and I would gladly pay to see it lol", "And here I was planning to go see some kafka-esque movie about pants. Huge kudos to everyone involved haha" ]
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This new A24 movie is... Different. "Rough Pants" [2021]
https://youtu.be/SY1LhNv4FWs
/r/videos/comments/rmcoq6/this_singer_will_blow_your_mind/
[ "Didn't blow my mind, but obviously very talented", "He didn't", "He will just listen to his other songs like resistance,surface, prosaic", "listen to his other song called resistance.", "~7/10" ]
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This singer will blow your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfxAPoH5Y8
/r/videos/comments/rmdfzx/a_star_wars_montage/
[ "... read the title again mate lolololol", "Warp speed you must, commander", "lmfao are u blind! DEPLOY THE GARRISON!" ]
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A Star Wars montage :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmdhm0/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rmdhm0/deleted_by_user/
[ "poor white supremacists.", "Do you think SoaD gives a lily white fuck about goddamn monuments?", "Pretty sure Serj & The Gang would be first in line to topple colonial monuments", "I think, given OP is posting a SoaD song that references Tiananmen Square, they might be referring to the recently removed Tiananmen Square Massacre monument in Hong Kong, not American colonial monuments.", "Was gonna say the same. Pretty sure all SoaD albums are against totalitarian states and genocide.", "Awful", "Awww", "This comment section is pure unmolested cringe.", "Nah this cringe has definitely been molested before" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69uT90tEJdE
/r/videos/comments/rmdl8x/nasas_official_mission_trailer_for_the_james_webb/
[ "Christmas can't come soon enough.", "Can't wait to see what this thing will be able to show us, the things we'll learn from it, it's awesome.", "At this point I'm praying it doesn't explode on the pad, or suffer some other error. Unlike hubble we can't send anyone to fix this one.", "The launch is the \"easy\" part, the rocket carrying it has a really good safety record. The scary part is the complex unfolding process it has to do once it's in space. That's the shit that's keeping engineers up at night.", "Oh I know, and I am both excited - and terrified - for everyone who's worked on the project.", "I hope it doesn't blow up on the way into space.", "I'm worried some piece of trash in orbit is gonna cut a massive hole in it. There is so much trash in orbit and even more so going up there that I worry about scientific missions like this one.", "It had better work, eh.", "Stop worrying. It's a totally overblown problem, especially in the case of JWST.\n\nI suggest you do some reading about what orbit the telescope is going to be residing in. Hint: it's going to a Lagrange point far, far away from commercial orbital altitudes.", "Webb is going to orbit the sun, not the Earth. There is significantly less debris at L2.", "“I thought Christmas only comes once a year?”", "Too bad they dropped it lol.", "I know what Lagrange points are, but each time [I read it I can't help but think of this](https://youtu.be/Vppbdf-qtGU)", "How soon will they start to see crazy stuff?", "IIRC it takes 3 full weeks (or months maybe) to fully unfold. It has many different steps but also a lot of failure backups too in case something doesnt work.", "I thought that voice sounded familiar. I can't wait for this", "I think 6 months til the first images", "They're going to look like such assholes if that sunshield doesn't open correctly.", "If it works, it'll demonstrate that NASA is still the king of space science.\n\nIf it fails, it'll go down as one of the biggest blunders in aerospace engineering.\n\nNo pressure.", "This is exciting. I hope NASA is working on a gravity telescope next. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCAL\\_(spacecraft)", "Change the name of the James Webb Space Telescope to the Frank Kameny Space Telescope.\n\nDon't honour people who did extreme harms to queer people.\n\nhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nasa-needs-to-rename-the-james-webb-space-telescope", "So what happens if the launch fucks up and the rocket explodes? Does this mean we have to wait another 5-10 years for them to build and launch a new one?", "Nah name it after the famous Reddit social justice warrior, d3pd.", "It would be confusing to name it after a data format used by the ATLAS experiment at CERN.\n\nHow do you think queer people would be likely to feel about the project honouring someone who used his position of power to harm queer folks?", "This was supposed to be done in 2007. Regardless, it's nice to see it going up now, and I hope everything runs smoothly!", "I thought It was orbiting the earth, just further than the moon does", "Different times. I’d say not to be so sensitive, it’s not like it matters at the end of the day. Do you think people are going to be anti-queer because they see that name? Most people don’t even know who he was, let alone his political beliefs.", "It will be in one of five point of equilibrium, where the effective gravitational forces all cancel each other and give it a stable orbit around the sun, with fixed position relative to Earth. See [Lagrange points](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_point). JWST will be at L2.", "**[Lagrange point](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_point)** \n \n >In celestial mechanics, the Lagrange points (also Lagrangian points, L-points, or libration points) are points near two large orbiting bodies. Normally, the two objects exert an unbalanced gravitational force at a point, altering the orbit of whatever is at that point. At the Lagrange points, the gravitational forces of the two large bodies and the centrifugal force balance each other. This can make Lagrange points an excellent location for satellites, as few orbit corrections are needed to maintain the desired orbit.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "That’s assuming congress would willingly just give them another $10B to work with.", "Really wish another country was trying to out-do NASA to get the space race going again", "Yeah I just did bunch of searches about it. Makes me more pumped than I already was. That his displays its orbit better than I have seen. Super cool it also uses the shade from the earth as well as it's solar shade.\n\nhttps://64.media.tumblr.com/c8cb14d2e80145012cda7c4b07ace712/tumblr_inline_owhrfh3REP1tzhl5u_500.gifv", "I find it hard to get angry over the naming of a telescope and I am a member of the LGBTQ community. Having said that if you're going to name it after a NASA employee maybe Mary Jackson, Katherine Johnson, or Dorothy Vaughan -- that would be kick ass.", ">Different times.\n\nFrank Kameny lived in the same times, that's why I suggested his name.\n\nPlus we're not talking about just different times, we're talking about Webb who used his position of power to root out and remove queer people from their jobs in space sciences, to ostracise them. How do you think queer people are likely to feel about honouring someone who did things like that?\n\n>Do you think people are going to be anti-queer because they see that name?\n\nWould you take issue with a telescope called the Robert E. Lee Space Telescope?", "It's an issue because it's honouring someone who did extreme harms to queer people. How are young queer folks likely to feel about NASA honouring someone who engaged in hunts to remove queer people from the likes of NASA, to fire them for their sexuality and to ostracise them?", "You could think of L2 as a place where it takes exactly one year to orbit the Earth, so in a sense you're not wrong.", "I get what you're going for -- but when making these arguments, why do people always suggest alterative names that are never going to happen?\n\n*If* NASA was going to change the name, [which they won't, per their own report](https://www.npr.org/2021/09/30/1041707730/shadowed-by-controversy-nasa-wont-rename-new-space-telescope), they'd change it to the name of another prominent scientist or NASA figure.\n\nIt'd be great for something relevant to be named after Kameny, but I don't think its a realistic expectation for the greatest telescope made to date to be named after someone who, ultimately, has nothing to do with it. Likewise with the suggestion of that article. Harriet Tubman is a beloved hero that deserves honoring - but why would that be via a telescope of all things?\n\nI feel like activists need to be realistic with expectations in order to make a winning battle more obtainable. Aim for a world renowned scientist that fits the bill, but doesn't have shitty baggage.", "Okay, if NASA isn't throwing *Kerbal Space Program* a little salute with this video, I'll eat my spacesuit. Go ahead, tell me that this isn't getting inspiration from [*Build, Fly, Dream*](https://youtu.be/RkDOOsGg-9I).", "I don't have qualms about judiciously choosing our collective role models. However, I read that whole article and I'm still unclear on what exactly Webb's transgressions were, aside from living and working during a time when American culture persecuted sexual orientation (and race, gender, religion, etc.). Why is Webb in particular worse than other NASA namesakes like Armstrong, Hubble, Goddard, Ames, Kennedy, etc.? \n\nNo statue should be immune to criticism, but at least be able to articulate what someone did (e.g. who the person hurt and how the person hurt them) before tearing them down.", "God I hope this doesn't blow up on the pad or way up.", "So I'm not the only one that is unreasonably emotionally invested in this project during COVID and surrounded by all the negativity?", "I don't particularly care about it being named after Kameny, though I think that recognition of an astronomer who was hunted and fired for his sexuality would be better than honouring a bigot that did real harm. The real point in suggesting him though is to counter those people who bend over backwards in apologetics for the bigotry of Webb. They typically say that it was a different time, and mentioning Kameny shows that this is absolutely no excuse as he existed in the same timeframe.\n\n>Aim for a world renowned scientist\n\nThe reality is that big scientific achievements are pretty much never attributable to a single person. It's arguably a harmful myth.", ">In order to use the Sun as a gravity lens, it would be necessary to send the telescope to a minimum distance of 550 astronomical units away from the Sun,[3]: 4–7 enabling very high signal amplifications: for example, at the 203 GHz wavelength, amplification of 1.3·1015.[5] Maccone suggests that this should be enough to obtain detailed images of the surfaces of extrasolar planets.\n\nDO IT!\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCAL_(spacecraft)", "No idea why you're downvoted, other than to prove that reddit is full of idiots.\n\nIt is a valid concern and I dearly hope so too.", "Sagan's voice. Of course.\n\nA successful launch will be the best christmas gift this year.", "Some of the footage shown in this looks like it's from Hubble, edited in the style of Hubble IMAX (2010). \n\nA phenomenal film produced by NASA about the Hubble telescope that features real image data edited and transformed into parallax and 3D, with a certain degree of finesse.", "The U.S. federal government implemented a policy of dissemination in the 1950s that extended to NASA. James Webb was in a leadership role at the time and didn't \"stand up\" to defend LGBQ in the 1950s. For that you think his entire legacy is tarnished? \n\nI don't know how you can even read that article and come to that conclusion. If that's his worst transgression, the guy comes out barely scathed. You need a reality check.", "NASA has the worst branding and design. Just campy and uninspiring.", "Like, I've heard some incredible things.\n\nWe'll be able to see exoplanets in detail supposedly?", "Really?! I don't know anything about anything, I just want to learn from smarter people haha", "wouldn't it be cheap? Most of that money was on development of the tech." ]
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NASA's "Official Mission Trailer" for the James Webb Space Telescope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alzC4vM64ok
/r/videos/comments/rmdsxz/the_most_action_packed_straightlinemission_to/
[ "Absolutely love these and look forward to them every year. Ben is a great addition although I'm sure Welsh Greg is disappointed he couldn't come. \n\nGet in!", "According to Tom, it’s the most exciting trip yet! I hope he actually completes it! :)", "hell yeah lets go", "Hope he does it this time, excited for Episode 2 with that ending teaser.", "THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE", "The best day of your life so far", "Whaaaat!!! Sick", "the first rule of train club is", "Might take away the excitement but can't he contact people who's gardens they will cross?", "So entertaining. These could be 2 hours long an episode and I'd watch the whole thing. Well done.", "Love this channel", "I think this would give them too many opportunities to say no. I don't necessarily agree with the process of just going for it, but I think that once you're already halfway through in a private property and pointing to the other end and saying \"Hi, we just need to go there and we'll be gone in under a minute\", most people would grumble but would rather let them through rather than having to deal with the situation, negociate or call law enforcement.", "Oh snap, I didn't even know there was a second attempt. Cool!", "I guess he could, but if he got a single outright no, that would be pretty bad. Cause he can't just ignore them and do it anyway after being specifically told not to by the owner. He's mischeivous dude willing to harmlessly break a few laws, but I really doubt he'd cross that line.", "I anxious about the farmer in the preview screaming.", "Why do you care so much", "I love what Tom's doing with his channel. I started watching some geoguessr videos at first but those get old after a bit. This whole series is such a unique little adventure idea.", "This is awesome, I wish I could do this here in Texas without getting shot.", "We don't know yet. He hasn't in the first episode at least (depending on if Wales had opened their border when he filmed it).", "I truly, honestly recommend this this to everyone. The storytelling is superb, great use of foreshadowing, and the emotions are raw and real. What reality shows could be in a perfect world.", "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.", "> The thought that I might wake up one morning to a BBC article about some random guy from Yorkshire making a line across Wales when it should have been me...\n\nGosh, if the repeated trips crossing private property without asking permission didn't establish this guy as a major narcissist, this line of thought sure did. Is he serious or is he just playing an asshole as a sort of shtick?", "YESSSSSSSS!!!! 4 minutes until Christmas break from work, I know what I'm watching tonight!", "Ultimately I like Tom and his channel, but I do agree. The Scotland mission, and particularly the follow-up after it failed, kinda showed a narcissistic side to him.\n\nHe has a way of brushing off legitimate criticism when it comes to breaking the law & ultimately encouraging it, like deciding to cross a motor-way & when pressed on it, following up with justifications for why it's fine for him.\n\nEspecially the nature of the Scotland mission was pretty poor judgement, as Scotland were in lockdown and we couldn't even travel between counties, and they decided to try travel across the whole of the country, going through private property along the way. Then pretty much blaming the farmer for calling the police when they were camping on his property.", "Get in!!", "Glad to see he brought gloves this time!", "I think in these he should just be called Greg and it should be English Tom instead", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam#England_and_Wales", "I really can't bring myself to watch this clown anymore after all the shit he pulled in that Scotland one.", "Man my joke reply has led to quite the down vote festival", "And when they get “no” answers, what do they do? Then the people will be aware there might be a person trying to cross their land and they will be far more upset by it after explicitly telling you no you can’t. The other option is to just create a new line and start all over. It doesn’t matter if you got 999 years and 1 no. You have to come up with a new line and start asking a new set of 1000 people. \n\nLike others have said, easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, and they are *way* less likely to provide you forgiveness if they’ve already explicitly told you you aren’t allowed to do this.", "He addressed this previously, as others have mentioned. Basically they'd rather just go, with the odds being no one sees them at all, and if they do see someone it's easy enough to explain and politely ask if they can continue on their way.\n\nIf they ask beforehand and people say no (which some no doubt would) he's not comfortable just ignoring their wishes and doing it anyway.", "Care to specify what shit you mean?", "Yeah, I quickly got bored of the geogussr stuff, bit I watch all his real life videos and the GeoDetective series. \n\nBut he can't exclusivly do these high-effort missions, so I'm glad people watch the GeoGussr stuff, so he earns some money between the missions", "Only complaint about this series is that there isn't more!", "Also it only takes 1 \"no\" to ruin a trip", ">Forests and woodlands are excluded, other than publicly owned forests, which have a similar right of access by virtue of a voluntary dedication made by the Forestry Commission. Developed land, gardens and certain other areas are specifically excluded from the right of access.", "He's trespassing through private fields/gardens/sites whilst trying not to be seen for the vast majority of the video so yes, to answer your question. If you don't mind that it is very entertaining and he is mostly passionate about the challenge, but if you do, you'd probably want to avoid all his videos aside from the Geoguessr ones lmao.", "*third attempt now!", "I watched the first one of these... glad to see it again!", "Yeah that was pretty clickbaity... Didn't even happen this video. It was all build up and no action", "For people who do want to go trekking across the countryside, some large portion of Wales is Open Access, but even with that, you have to use gates and stiles and such to access the land, and you can't just hop fences and hedges, and you certainly can't go through gardens or right by houses and such. Here is a map of open access in Wales. http://lle.gov.wales/map#m=-3.52195,52.34505,10&b=europa&l=827;940;156;155;158;", "I was one of the people he showed for the preparation of this mission and I asked him during a call to please wear gloves during this mission so I didn't have to cringe watching him do each hedgerow. Tom said that I definitely was not the first person to request that hahaha.", "I love this guy's video. The one in Norway was great too. Wales seems to be a tough cookie one, I will check attempt 3.", "Plus, a lot of places have \"right to roam\" statutes.", "What’s wrong with crossing a motorway?", "why do most of these comments seem like astroturfing", "GET INNNN", "if you get caught", "This is great. I'm all in.", "In what way?", "I don't think that would include back gardens", "Yes most likely", "Breaking COVID restrictions", "It's illegal for a start and dangerous.", "Till part two!", "In the “deceptive practice of presenting an orchestrated marketing or public relations campaign in the guise of unsolicited comments from members of the public” way\n\nNot that I agree", "I tuned in one time, and he had guessed a spot in the Idaho panhandle and mentioned how hard it would be to cross in a straight line. I low key wanna see him do it.", "What is this video?", "From what I recall people were most upset about 3 things\n\n1) crossing a train track (he was approached by transport police following the upload and the video was removed, replaced with a version with that section edited out).\n\n2) camping and starting a campfire on farmer’s land, being confronted by farmer, and then being kicked off farmer’s land by police, and ordered to return to England, ending the mission. Some people took further issue with the way he “forgave” the farmer for calling the police after he’d said they could stay, finding it a bit self-absorbed. The farmer’s initial acquiescence was likely either tactical to keep them there and not aggravate them because he was worried for his safety (would be quite disconcerting for him) or his mind was changed when he told his wife or partner or something. \n\n3) generally breaking lockdown rules by entering Scotland\n\nThey also quite egregiously trespassed on a manufacturing plant premises but I don’t know if people took as much issue with this. I think they were pretty flagrant about entering people’s gardens as well but I can’t remember if that was this one or another one\n\nThey were quite out of line though tbh (edit: and I say that as a fan)", "Get out!", "If you ask, you're more likely to get caught.", "This is attempt 3. He also has a Scotland mission and a Norway mission.", "Tom Davies (geowizard on YouTube) attempts to traverse an entire country (this time it's Wales. He was successful in Norway) in a straight line while deviating no more than 20 meters for the entire route. He's a charming guy - brilliant at geography - and makes some very entertaining content. Highly recommend.", "I love his channel and his missions. I did find it super sketchy when he trespassed a live railway though.", "Bunch of weird comments here and the one guy calling this dude out for trespassing on private property is getting buried. Something seems off. Apparently he did the same thing in Scotland but had to again stop for illegal trespassing. Like dude didn't even ask if he could just did it....", "I play a lot of geoguessr and I would think that people who don't play would find the videos more exciting/fantastic since it seems so much more magical when you aren't in that world.", "What is with this aspect ratio?", "I mean if there’s no cars coming what’s wrong with it?", "I mean I imagine it'll happen in part 2 or 3", "More? They crossed obstacle after obstacle it's like the video was on repeat for one long straight line on and on \n\nHey they made it", "By far my favorite YouTuber. Can’t wait to watch this", "It's become a meme at this point! I remember when his first video got posted and everyone was basically yelling at him go wear gloves", "He has a pretty big following, and these types of videos from him are rare. It's something many have been looking forward to for a while. So I think it makes sense.", "Yeah the way I see it it's mostly a victimless crime. Although I do wish they were a bit more respectful to the fences and hedgerows haha", "Jesus the ammount of replies to you defending criminal trespass is disturbing...", "Last straight line challenge he did, he mentioned people asking about doing it to cross states in the US. It went like this:\n\n\"People ask me about doing a challenge in the USA. Let me think about it...\"\n\n*montage of news clips of people shooting their neighbors, farmers shooting people on their property, people threatening other people with guns in rural areas...*\n\n\"Nah, probably not the best idea.\"", "That's kind of the point", "works a lot better in the UK where we have a right to wander.\n\n​\n\nUS is a little too \"my property my rights\" sort of stuff. he'd probably die. \n\n\nhere you'll just get an angry farmer tell you to get off his land", "nah but it's not a crime. or like it's a civil matter.", "The point is to commit a crime? Well shit ill have to remember to use the \"Oh no I'm a YouTuber\" excuse if I ever need to get away with something", "First solo attempt was the best because he had no clue what he was doing and literally could have died crossing that ancient ass bridge in full gear over a fast moving river.", "Now do the USA in a straight line.", "Whether he likes it or not, everything he does on his channel encourages others to go out and do the same. That's even evident from this video as someone else told him they were planning a mission.\n\nDeciding to cross live motor-ways & railways, and filming it to show an audience is encouraging others to also do it. At some point, someone else isn't going to be as lucky.\n\nThese things are illegal for a reason, we don't get to just cherry-pick whether or not these dangerous actions should apply to us, especially not when you're filming it for a wide audience.", "Love these. Tom is great", "He likes to do that. There's a previous run he did where he hinted that he almost drowned in a bog that he hinted for like 2 to 3 episodes. I don't mind it so much because I know he's doing it to increase engagement and his content is great.", "This isn't America mate. I couldn't give a fuck if someone walks over my grass.", "I wish C4 or someone would pick him up for a series on these straight line missions so he could do them more often. So good to watch, I'm sure a lot of people would watch them.", "Well that's one way to negatively frame the guy.", "Nothing wrong with some cheeky stuff in life. Always following every rule wouldn't be fun would it", "“Negatively frame”? Everything they just said was laid out pretty factually. \n\nI love the straight line missions, and can turn a blind eye to most of the stuff but also have the decency to see that he sometimes crosses some boundaries and deserves at least a little criticism for it.", "I sort of like it that way. He isn’t going away anytime new, and the way he puts these updates up weeks apart takes away the instant gratification dopamine hits you get binge watching on platforms like Hulu or Netflix. \n\nIf you could just binge it all you wouldn’t feel as close to nature as you should with these. At least that is what I get from it.", "I think it happened by accident on the first straight-line attempt, but has now become the standard presentation mode for all attempts.", "As a one-off where nobody gets injured, arguably nothing. But it doesn't scale. If lots of people tried to walk across motorways, even if they were all sure there were no cars coming, at least some would be wrong and would get themselves or someone else killed.", "Yes \"\"negatively frame\"\". Doesn't mean the things he states aren't factual, just that only stating those things and the way Tom supposedly talks about those acts seems disingenuous. Example: I didn't feel like he dismissed the farmer at all, he mentioned the guy had the right to send them away. Also some minor illegal mischief isn't such a big deal imo as the comment makes it out to be, that's all.", "Fast flying lead at the second fence.", "The timing of the pandemic is really unfortunate, if it wasn't for it I'm sure we would have plenty more straight line missions by now", "what is wrong with crossing a train track? Am i missing something here?", "The most endearing aspect of these videos is his extreme fear of farmers", "Haven't seen these videos before. I'm always a fan of Jenny Graham's light hearted approach to these things (and the first person I thought of when I saw the title) and tbh when I saw all the camo gear I thought these guys were going to be bell-ends...\n\nVery happy I was wrong. This was a fun video! Looking forward to watching ep.2!", "You get much longer episodes if you support Tom on Patreon", "I grew up on the Idaho panhandle, that would take weeks to maybe months, is super dangerous in terms of wildlife and theres a very solid chance of getting shot by some redneck for existing on their property", "You have the right to wander in Scotland not the UK but we also don't have people shooting each other out of hand here", "What's with the obsession about not being seen by the farmers? Is that really such a big deal over there, being on someone's farmland? Where I live, I'd just approach them and say hello and chances would be VERY high that they'd be totally fine with that.", "I’m just stating the upset that some people had over the Scotland mission. I really enjoy his missions, travelling videos, geoguessr videos and geodetective videos. I have no interest in unfairly framing his actions.\n\nMy comment was to contextualise the “shit he pulled” for the benefit of the guy who asked, not to provide a balanced analysis of his wider content", "Or you could just make good content.", "It’s [illegal](https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/looking-after-the-railway/delays-explained/vandalism-and-trespass/).\n\nThey also jumped a high fence to do it.", "If you don’t want to wait a week, there’s two more attempts at Wales, one in Scotland and one in Norway as well.", "Not just that, we'd possibly have one more *how not to travel europe* series", "There's right to roam in Scotland so trespass isn't a thing unless you're on MOD land or railways basically", "Lighten up ya fuckin' square 🤓", "That's a pretty reductive view imo.\n\nThere is lots of great content on youtube, which has barely any views. And that is for several reasons (nieche content; didn't had luck; etc..). And if you want to go big and/or life off of youtube, you either get lucky or you try to play the algoritm in your favor. \nSad thing is, youtubes algorithm promotes certain tricks in videos and I don't blame content creators relying on the revenue when they incorporate those tricks (to an extend obviously).", "I think because it’s go-pro footage", "That’s not what “criminal trespassing” is", "You're right that not everyone who makes good content gets the recognition they deserve but the whole \"playing the algorithm\" thing is always going to be distasteful to me. Even if you're the best at what you do, if you're out there farming clickbait then I'm going to look the other way.", "Geoguessr gets old kinda quickly, but he's been doing [another](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_japiE6QKWqMVC3JbyONau_0CZlDTU5f) series where people send him random photos they've taken around the world, then he does all the detective work without any restriction on what tools he can use, and try to figure out exactly where each photo was taken. \n\nIt's fascinating how often a single photo is enough to pinpoint a location, as long as you know what to look for.", "Fair enough, to each their own. \nI won't mind it in mild doses if I like the content overall.\n\nIf it get's to \"obvious\" or \"invasive\" I'll be annoyed as well though.", "Then don't watch it. Easy fix!", "Interestingly you’re blaming the players in the game rather than the system promoting it. For what it’s worth this is a great perspective of a YouTuber that doesn’t do clickbait and bullshit, and how it punishes him and other quality content creators.\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=218&v=VZzZKuQUguk&feature=emb_title", "> call law enforcement.\n\nIn the UK trespassing is a civil offense rather than a criminal offense anyway, the police would only turn up to move you on if you looked like you were sticking around, like if you set up camp on someone's land.\n\nIf you called to report someone walking across your land they'd probably just tell you to keep a note of it and let them know if it keeps happening. A polite way of saying \"we don't really care\".", "Gardens?", "They broke the law AND jumped a high fence??? Never have I heard of such evil acts.", "Incorrect. Both parties deserve to bear some blame. I'm blaming YouTube for making a stupid game and I'm blaming the players who take part in that stupid game for giving YouTube a reason to keep that game going.", "Correct, all they can do is tell you to leave. If you're more than half way across you're already leaving anyway, so they can't do anything if you're willing to put up with people being a bit angry at you.", "It's not a criminal offense in the UK, just a civil matter.", "I see, thanks for the info!", "If you think individual content creators are the reason that YouTube’s algorithm works the way it does, and not the systems in place by the literal monopoly on video hosting, you have a very skewed sense of weight of responsibility.\n\nNot playing the field you’re on is how you lose or fall behind. And there are no other fields to play on that are comparable to YouTube.\n\nDon’t get me wrong I think clickbait is garbage and that it’s inherently an unhealthy form of promotion. As a parallel, I personally hate how Floyd Mayweather fights, but the reason he’s undefeated is because he plays the rules and scoring system of boxing better than anyone else. But can I blame the man that’s one of greatest of all time in boxing using it? Not really, it’s not his fault Boxing rules are the way they are.", "Yeah so long as he doesn’t do something silly like cross active train tracks or a motorway he’s fine.", "Ah, well, that does make sense.", "Lots of people mistaking declarative statements for value judgements today", "Boring. Nothing happens", "There's a reason why I said \"a reason\" and not \"the reason\".", "hehehe", "Yeah. I love that series!", "If they don't happen to be standing within 20 metres of the straight line, then you would lose the mission just by approaching them.", "That series gives me faith in humanity", "It’s fun to see someone use the downvote button as a disagree button.\n\nHave a great day.", "I'm not downvoting you for disagreeing, I'm downvoting you for needless accusations. If being downvoted upsets you then perhaps that's something you should avoid in future.", "These is absolutely my favorite series on the Internet, always wonderful to watch.", "Get on with your life!", "Garden is British English for \"yard\", an outdoor land area next to a home.", "> criminal trespassing\n\nIn the U.S. (as an example, I know it doesn't apply to the U.K.), if you know you're not supposed to be in an area, it can be criminally trespassing, even without being asked to leave. For example, inside a fenced in area, and you jump the fence. \n\nIn general though, you have to give a person the opportunity to leave, and it's only if they refuse to leave once asked that their actions become criminal trespassing.", "The real life geodetextive was some of his best content", "well i did say whats *wrong* with crossing a railroad track", "Oh, ok then. If it was allowed people would probably get hurt or die more often which would be burdensome.", "Another thing I wasn't aware of. That the rules are so strict, I mean. I figured you could leave the line and then return to it for something like this.", "Yes I'm sure most people are just waiting for crossing railroad tracks to become legal so they can get out there and do it", "Are you an idiot?", "You do realize the main focus of these videos is walking a straight line, and not getting action shots, right?", "You do realize the main focus of these videos is walking a straight line, and not getting action shots, right?", "Get in!!!!", "He's also fairly respectful of their land, and not actually dong any harm to anyone -- except maybe the odd rotten fence being broken down a little faster than nature would have intended", "Yes", "Can confirm. I walk the tracks all the time and it's actually dangerous as fuck. If everyone did it people would most certainly be dying on the daily", "You do realize the video's title starts with \"The most action packed...\"\n\nThe video was just a boring 8 hour hike, nothing interesting actually happened. How about they work on their title and not clickbait next time", "Good for you!", "Ah, you’re interpreting an accusation where there wasn’t one and projecting gotcha. No worries.", "The topic was on \"the shit he pulled\", don't really see how answering detailing these facts is disingenious.\n\nThe main issue I think people have with the response to the farmer is that he \"forgave\" him. It could just be a choice of words, but forgiving implies that the farmer had wronged them in some way, when it was completely the opposite. This, rightfully said, makes Tom seem quite self-absorbed.\n\nYou may not think that \"some minor illegal mischief\" is much of a big deal, but they weren't exactly minor, and it's slightly different when you're endorsing over 1 million people to do the same.\n\nTo add to the criticism, Tom doesn't seem to really take any responsibility with these actions. His main take away from the failed Scotland experience is that he should have been more stealthy in order to not get caught, and doesn't seem to care that he's promoting some pretty questionable practices, stating that entertaining 1 million people is more important.", "Well I'm glad you speak for all the people of the UK then", "Its a cult following of morons worshipping another moron for breaking the law on pursuit of what amounts to a really stupid tic tok challenge. You can't expect much critical thinking from them", "Very strong position", "Maybe it's different in Europe, but I will never understand why he dresses like an absolute paramilitary goon when doing these things. It's a recipe for people to think you're up to no good.", "As they say in the video the camo is a very deliberate choice. That part of wales often has the army doing training exercises so people will be less likely to bat an eye at the sight of them walking across their land", "And also his “How to not travel Europe” series is genuinely one of the most wholesome things on YouTube. Highly recommend it!", "He does that because in this part of wales they often have army training exercises, which might lead to people asking less questions of him", ">you’re blaming the players in the game rather than the system promoting it \n\n>you have a very skewed sense of weight of responsibility. \n\nThese are accusations.", "Pedestrians aren't allowed so drivers aren't looking out for them.", "Previous post. Best of luck to you.", "You do realize the next words in the title are \"...straight line misssion to date\"\n\nHe didn't say day one was the most action packed part, he's saying the mission itself is the most action packed. Earth to Brent: these videos are edited and the straight line mission already happened in october. this isn't a live stream.", "[Go fuck yourself.](https://www.google.com/search?q=accusation)", "Oh 100% I get it having watched the video. That was just my first impression from the thumbnail. \n\nI also hadn't thought about the trespassing aspect of it before watching. So it all makes sense.", ">\tnoun\na charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong.\n\nBrush up on reading comprehension.", "I'm not sure how much more clearly I can spell this out to you. It's there in black and white. How exactly are you not getting this?", "Oh no, I fully understand this situation. You just can’t accept that your perspective of the situation is not the reality.\n\nWhen you can have a conversation without assuming that being challenged is to be accused or personally attacked, come back and try again.\n\nOr don’t. It makes no difference to me.", "The only thing challenging about this conversation is your obstinate refusal to own your actions. Grow up.", "I get that this is too complicated of a concept for you to understand, but I'll try and break it down anyways. It's a 40 minute boring ass video, there was nothing exciting about it. Naming it \"The most action packed straight-line-mission \nto date\" is just pure clickbait. If the next three videos are more exciting, then they should've named this one \"The most action packed straight-line-mission \nto date except for the first day which was really boring\"", "You are literally brain dead if this video doesn't interest you.", "You must live a very sheltered life", "But why would anyone want to cross a motor way ? Tom has a very specific and unique reason to do it. He walked across a road who gives a fuck.", "Lol it's a 40 minute video of a guy hiking through bushes. You have to be brain dead to be so obsessed with it", "Get shot three gardens in." ]
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The most action packed straight-line-mission to date (DAY 1: Ferns & Tractors)
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[ "I can’t watch this without seeing Jeff and Abed from Community", "Right on target", "Inconceivable", "I've watched this movie before, I think it must resonate with somebody their exact age, in 1981, meaning I'm not sure how old the fans would be today or alive right now.", "Great movie. Worth watching the whole thing as my memory was that Andre comes off as a bit useless and entitled by the end of it. Evil guy from the princess bride is a good foil of reason through the whole discussion.", "Wallace Shawn. Accomplished playwright, actor, and producer.", "I was out the minute he tried to compare someone who has to deal with living in a major city with the Jews in late-30's Nazi Germany. Not a good look.", "I'm very fond of this film and the Andre character is fascinating, but often insufferable and bizarre (no, New York is not like 1930s Nazi Germany!). The Wally Shawn character is an essential surrogate for the audience, often looking at him with disbelief and expressing skepticism about his weirder ideas.", "this always annoys me. just because one thing is different from another thing doesn't mean 2 things cant be compared. \"apples and oranges\" They're both fruit. \"hotdogs and rocket ships\" both vaguely cylindrical.", "I mean, Andre is intended to be a bit of a pretentious windbag. You're not supposed to agree with every character you see on the screen.", "Also, his parents were themselves Jews who escaped Nazi Germany. It’s his fictionalized version of himself talking about what he knows.", "That’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s an apt metaphor", "Yeah, it’s basically the only reason I heard of this movie. And leave it to Dan Harmon to base an entire episode’s structure on a critically acclaimed movie while weaving in an elaborate poop joke", "Old people ranting about how the world was only good back in their youth and that people today are all mindless zombies and that their generation was the last good one. What else is new", "Andre is mostly a pretentious loon. That's his character. Wallace is there mostly to call him out.", "They're both insufferable in their own ways. It's satire of rich/pretentious people taking themselves way too seriously, wrapped in captivating storytelling, with subtle but brilliant cinematography and superb performances. I adore this film. High on the list of the best single location films.", "That's exactly what a mindless zombie would think.", "Since voicing Rex from Toy Story, he's also done a lot of voiceover work.", "Oh shit", "Is Andre just adult Holden Caufield?", "Conspiracy theory is born out of broken trust. It's really challenging to earn back trust once it's broken and in many cases, it never happens at all. Especially if the party who had broken it just continues to do whatever they did to break it in the first place and tell you you're the crazy one for being skeptical. \n\nI think people have lost trust in so many things critical to a society's infrastructure and sometimes, it's very hard for me to blame them.\n\nEdit: Don't really understand the downvotes but okay I guess? I'm sure nobody in power has ever broken the trust of the people before. My bad.", "It being satire makes the film more enjoyable, because if you watch it with the mindset of them being serious then you really just do not like these people.", "Honestly… that kind of feels like it. Holden Caufield was a spoiled, unlikable person who I could totally see being Andre later in life", "The dialogue isn’t what the film is revered for. The cinematography and structure are what most people point to", "You know what annoys me? The reddit retort to \"apples and oranges\" which is that \"they're both fruit\". The point of that idiom isn't to say that \"two different things cannot be compared, ever\". It's to show that comparisons using similarities that are so superficial and inconsequential become false analogies. This is especially useful when trying to make ridiculous connections between two ideas more palatable (e.g. \"Goebbels work is like Christoph Waltz's work because they're both German and work in media). Your example of hotdogs vs rocket ships cannot apply a meaningful comparison to anyone older than a small child, much less to anyone trying to analyze the living conditions of Nazi Germany vs NYC. And you're not supposed to think it's a good comparison in the movie either; it's supposed to come across as absurd.", "Its a relatable scene but if you find it to feel true it means it was wrong about our fate. Regardless great script.", "And the poop jokes", "As a new fan of Harmon, I don't quite understand the \"difficult to work with\" reputation he allegedly has, but there's very little of his work that I've not wholeheartedly enjoyed. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Whatever it is that's keeping him from being more prolific, I hope he sorts it out! 😁", "Apples are technically vegetables", "It's amazing that we have known what was going on all along, yet we even help to make it worse.", "He’s a drunk. Not really hard to wrap your head around", "Way underrated comment. Made me laugh.", "Ohh, I frankly had no idea. I'd heard it in passing and was reminded of it by this post. I'd only found his stuff this year, during an H. John Benjamin rabbit hole. 😅\n\nThough, that *definitely* makes sense, in light of R&M's production sessions. 🤔", "Eye rollingly cringe, it's like what a middle schooler thinks deep thoughts about the world are supposed to sound like. Or also what a over the hill 60's hippy thinks the world is.", "I don’t know if I’m the exact demographic, but I’m fifty two and recorded this movie on cassette and listened to it many times. I never cared about how “out there” Andre was. I loved two friends who were smart and alive having a real and deep conversation. And it introduced me to E Satie.", "r/triedtoohard", "In his defense NY City in the late 70s, early 80s was a cesspool of crime.", "Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.\n\n- Socrates, 470BC\n\n- Kenneth John Freeman 1907", "Damn. I was waiting for the punchline. I thought this was satire for the first couple of minutes.", "What the hell?!! A movie is considered good but a character espouses a viewpoint I disagree with?!? What the FUCK is going on here?????", "One thing that many crackpot theories have in common is that to be true they require the vast majority of the world to possess no agency—no power, no control over their own destiny, no self-awareness—just billions of child-like drones plodding along conveyor belts.", "anyone that eats this up is a narcissist and think they know better than the rest of an organised society... truth is they don't and just identify themselves as 'wolves' amongst sheep. If you really wanna 'wake up', none of you soyboys are wolves, you are literally nobodies, and the rest of society doesn't care about your thoughts on where you think society is heading. Let the grown ups keep working in their specific fields and making leaps and bounds in technological, scientific, and medical advances.", "This was an actual movie? I thought it was a made up movie that was turned into an [arcade game](https://www.google.com/search?q=my+dinner+with+andre+simpsons&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:3cb77edb,vid:7AUaXI4jU88,st:0) on the Simpsons.", "Ah yes, the 60's, those glorious times. People were *really* free back then, music was *really* creative back the, 'the last burst of the human being', what a steaming load of shit. Seriously, boomers might be the most self-obsessed, narcissitic generation to have ever lived. Guess who built the arch-capitalist system we find outselves in? The kids from the 60's. This myth that the 60's was some amazing time of creativity and innovation, when it was just the same as before but with more drugs and fucking, then the moment they got a decent job they immediately started acculating more wealth than any generation before and designed a system that no successive generation could possibly succeed. They built their culture around youth-empowerment and the moment the lost their youth, they demonised the young. They enjoyed the bounty provided by their previous generation (always portrayed as restrictive and stuck-in-their-ways), enjoyed socialist programs like education... then, the moment they take control, pull the ol' switcheroo and privitised it and fucked over the new generations. They claimed to love mother-earth, flower-power etc, but somehow lead to the highest use of fossil fuels and environmental destruction the world has ever seen. They hypocrisy is mindblowing.", "Great speech, well spoken, garbage ideas.", "😭", "I just gave you an upvote because you are completely right. \n\nAnd this generation specifically had their trust utterly annihilated after kennedy, MLK etc.", "Mmmm I’m a grown up working in a specific field and you’re not even understanding the point of the movie. \n\n1: they are both supposed to be pretentious as this is a dialogue between two upper class people. \n\n2: on that note, these are both absolutely upper class people so they ARE the hyper specialized people you are talking about. Their narcissism is the end point of what you think is the height of success. \n\n3.\tAndre, like most conspiracy theorists is 30% right and 70% out there. But he’s out there because he is trying to describe something massive and that takes a toll on you. I mean you can criticize his interpretation but even, what 40 years later, life has improved in some areas and seriously, seriously destabilized in other. I was born when this movie came out and have watched it happen. We have the lowest rates of violence ever and also sky high rates of opioid use etc. depression, suicide…crazy rates. I thought Japan was bad but a lot of other countries are getting up there too. So something is out of alignment and has been since the 1900s.", "I wish we had you in every thread (no sarcasm).", "mmmm i'm a grown up working in a specific field too and you're literally just talking shit", "Hmm it’s so strange to me to see people criticizing Andre’s speech. Haha the Nazi comparison is the over the top part of his personality that totally deserves criticism.\n\nSomewhat. Because in the grand scheme of things he wasn’t wrong.\n\nI first watched this movie in Asia, where I lived for 12 years. I moved there from the US, specifically to not have my tax money going to the 20 year fucking WAR YOU PEOPLE JUST FOUGHT.\n\nLike, seriously? Andre is “over the top” for comparing you people to fucking Nazis? I think that, in 2021 we are so used to everyone calling everything a Nazi that it's lost it's point. For Andre this would have been a huge statement as a child of Russian Jews (Andre is a real person, this movie is a characterization though), but he's using it because he's like a fish trying to describe water.\n\nHe wasn't wrong, just grandiose. This. Country. Just. Ended. 20 years of fucking war. Go google how many Iraqi’s and Afghani’s died because of our pointless bullshit. Oh and wait, don’t stop there because now you gotta look up how many people ISIS killed because THEY only existed because of us.\n\nSo like…we’re better than Nazi’s but…why? Because what, our deaths are collateral and proxy and not ideological? That sounds a bit morally lazy no?\n\nWe were drone striking weddings. Schools. Hospitals.\n\nAnd he’s over the top. He’s the narcissist. Really.\n\nAndre’s character ‘sounds crazy’ because he’s trying to wrap his mind around the way this country behaved at the time *and what it could lead to*. January 6th? Hello? Andre probably woke up that morning like \"...welp, I was right.\" ahahahaha. 800,000 dead in a pandemic, of which a good chunk were preventable? Because 40% of this country can't even do the simplest human courtesy of *wearing a fucking cloth mask?* Helloooooo?\n\nIt's 7 AM and I'm cracking up laughing at him being called narcissistic.\n\nIt’s over the top to say the US is Orwellian? How is that any different than what Noam Chomsky has been screaming at you people for decades? It’s not that it’s something you can’t overcome, but you have to see it and know that it’s there and how it works.\n\nAnd yes, the robotic behavior. It is terrifying. Clearly it's not everyone, and it's not even \"every conservative\". I've had cogent 1 on 1 conversations with Fascists. A human is smart, humans though are pretty robotic.\n\nThe pivotal moment for me, was protesting the war in 2004 in NYC, and just seeing the FUCKING VACANT LOOKS on the faces of people lining up for the Republican National Convention to hear George Bush march you all to war. Just eating the shit up. This country made a *choice* to engage in that war again. It wasn't 'Bush's fault'. How many people back then were talking about \"glassing\" Iraq? The fuck?\n\nTHAT is what Andre is talking about here. His character at his age, would have seen us go into Nam with just as much of the same robotic patriotism.", "Really, so after 20 years of a disastrous Afghanistan war, Andre was wrong?\n\nAfter 40 years of the war on drugs he was wrong?\n\nAfter no on getting punished for lying the US into Vietnam he was wrong?\n\nAfter a food system so polluted we are now literally shitting plastic, he was wrong?", "Andre said literally nothing. A bunch of default template platitudes that you could fuckin' whack in any bad event and it'd somehow ring true. It's hollow bullshit. It's mental sadism and it's fucking pathetic. It's whinging in a more sophisticated tone. Andre is a fuckin' bitch but he's too afraid to admit it and too afraid to do anything about his perceived problems with the world. He just sits on the sideline moping like a fucking pathetic slam poet.\n\nIt's bullshit. It's weak and easy complaining and ultimately it means nothing because it focuses on absolutely nothing but phrase in a way that it refers to everything.\n\nCase and point is you referring to the afghanistan war which predates this entire fucking movie and isn't anything related to the entire premise of his rant which is entirely focused on the collapse of society in some way.\n\nGarbage weak ass take by Andre/writer and weak ass take from you boiling it back to Afghanistan then editing your post to add more stupid western garbage.", ">Case and point is you referring to the afghanistan war which predates this entire fucking movie and isn't anything related to the entire premise of his rant which is entirely focused on the collapse of society in some way.\n\nHahahahahaaaaa. See, here's the thing. I'm not even sure if you're using the word \"predate\" correctly because which Afghan war are you talking about?\n\nSee, this movie was released in 1981 so it's conceivable that the screenplay would have been written around the FIRST Afghan war.\n\nYa know, the one where we armed the Mujahedeen and empowered Osama Bin Laden.\n\nNow, *I* was talking about the Afghan war that just ended. The one we went into for no reason. Chasing a person who wasn't there and was being supported by neither country. And who we empowered.\n\nDuring that other war.\n\nThe one that started when this movie came out.\n\nAre you seeing the fucking sheer scope here? \n\nYou call Andre a sadist and I'd agree. But I'd say that he's being no more sadistic than Nietszche who told you god was dead and you killed him.\n\nHe's being sadistic because it's true. Nietsche and Andre are at war with the listener in the same way.\n\nSo if you look at Andre's life, the grand scheme since he's alive today, was he wrong? I mean this guy would have watched us sleepwalk into multiple idiotic pointless wars. \n\nBut what is your take here? Was Vietnam correct? Was Afghanistan correct? You call Andre a coward but what heroism was he supposed to be marching into?", "So—some context. The Wally Shawn character has been out of touch with Andre, who is now back from traveling and has had his world shaken. He was literally buried in a forest funeral and then dug up again. The social world he used to share with Wally Shawn now seems utterly surreal to Andre. They are friends who can talk forcefully without fear of offending eachother—good faith is assumed. \n\nIt has been many years since I watched this movie, and I have been turning it over in my head ever since.", "There's something about the Andre character that *everything* he says, I find myself wanting to disagree with, and argue against it in my own mind. And I think Wallace does the same. But then if you go to far in the other direction, you might be *too* closed off to new ideas or experiences.\n\nI always recommend **Old Joy**, 2006, which has a very similar dynamic and is a beautiful update of the same basic structure.", "Ties in well with this \n\n​\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m7X-1V9nOs", "Just read my post again. I've already answered your question and said he's wrong. I've clearly articulated why I think that. You have not changed my mind whatsoever. I didn't call him a sadist, I said what he's doing is equivalent to mental sadism because it's just weak empty garbage designed to reverberate with literally any tragic event that's ever happened.\n\nAsking is Vietnam or Afghanistan or anything else is 'correct' is stupid. There is no 'correct' option because people are different which is why conflict exists in the first place.\n\nAs i said earlier, this is weak shit. It's bullshit. There is literally no substance behind any of the shit this guy says. Broad based statements that could mean literally anything to anyone.\n\nAlso hitting me with the 'BuT WhICh AfGhAniStan' then going onto confirm it's exactly the one we were always talking about is just dumb", ">here is no 'correct' option because people are different which is why conflict exists in the first place.\n\nBwahaha Vietnam didn't happen because \"people are different\" you dolt. It happened because you were specifically lied into it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A_X_6_9m2s\n\n^ That is Robert McNamarra admitting on camera that you were lied into it.\n\nColin Powell admitted his role in lying you people into 20 years of war: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/us/politics/iraq-war-colin-powell.html\n\nThese were not just wars caused by differences. They were just lies. You were just duped. \n\n>I didn't call him a sadist...\n\nHere is your actual quote from your last comment which I'm literally just copy pasting:\n\n>It's mental sadism\n\nI'll just let your gaslighting speak for itself and move on to the rest of the comment.\n\n>...I said what he's doing is equivalent to mental sadism because it's just weak empty garbage designed to reverberate with literally any tragic event that's ever happened.\n\nYeah and I tossed your definition into the garbage and inserted my own. And?\n\n>There is literally no substance behind any of the shit this guy says. Broad based statements that could mean literally anything to anyone.\n\nYou keep saying this and yet I keep providing evidence to the contrary.\n\nHe's NOT saying broad based comments that could be applied to anyone. He's an American talking about his own american culture and he's applying his moral barometer to his home. YOU are the one who is using the circular retort that “he’s not saying anything”. No, you’re plugging your ears. \n\nAnd he's applying this moral barometer because he was born to Russian-Jewish parents and America's moral path was heading downwards even then. Your attitude of \"this could be anyone\" is the exact moral weakness he's talking about.\n\nFinally:\n\n>Also hitting me with the 'BuT WhICh AfGhAniStan' then going onto confirm it's exactly the one we were always talking about is just dumb\n\nSo you just admitted your use of the word predate was wrong in your last comment. To quote you:\n\n>Case and point is you referring to the afghanistan war which predates this entire fucking movie\n\nThe word predate means \"come before\". No, this movie was made in 81 and if we're both talking about the 2001-2021 Afghan war then...", "Don’t forget “raging, unrepentant narcissist.” I love his creative output and I’m also glad I don’t know him personally or professionally.", "His podcast Harmontown is basically \"watch me get drunk with my friends and ex-wife and sometimes rap about fucking your mom\"", "I'm convinced.. not I'm not, yes I am, nup.", "And it will live on as one of the greatest podcasts ever created because of this.", "Same here but this entire time i thought it was Andre the Giant in it", "Oh, sorry, I think you misunderstood. I was mocking you for the absolutely braindead, neanderthal-IQ idea that the mere existence of a disagreeable view in a movie renders that movie somehow not good. \n\nFor instance, did you like the movie Schindler's List? Well I guess you're a nazi anti-semite then, because in that movie (which is revered?!?!? what the hell?!?!?) there is a NAZI who KILLS JEWS!!!! Can you believe it?!?! How could people revere a movie like that?!?!", "What? Are you one of those people who thinks writing anything longer than a tweet requires herculean effort and seething rage, or something?", "It's all too easy to say this, but I think it misses a couple things. For one, it misses the fact that we truly are living in a totally unprecedented time. A completely globalized economic society with massive tech that is destroying the substrate of the very social fabric we are immersed in just as quickly as it is destroying the natural environment is not business as usual. The world has never seen super-powerful AI that understands how to manipulate people better than they understand themselves before. The world has never before seen CRISPR tech anyone can setup in their garage. Our system is literally destroying the Amazon rainforest before our very eyes. So don't tell me that this is just the same thing that has always happened, because it's not.\n\nSecondly, I think this misses the way that in our living cultural memory which encompasses an extremely short time frame of a few thousand years, I think it's quite possible that we are part of a lineage where things actually are getting noticeably worse in very specific ways (certainly not _all_ ways) with each successive massive generational shift. The television generation _was_ very different from the pre-television generation. The radio generation _was_ very different from the pre-radio generation. The pre-Axial age generation _was_ very different from the Axial age generation (which included Socrates). Because all of these shifts comprise the makeup of our cultural lineage, I think it's quite difficult to step outside our frame and consider the reports of the only people to be able to hold more than a single generational perspective: the elders.", ">\tAccomplished playwright, actor, and producer.\n\n*Inconceivable!*", "[[The quote] was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907.](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/)\n\nAnd [here is the dissertation itself.](https://archive.org/stream/schoolsofhellase00freeuoft/schoolsofhellase00freeuoft_djvu.txt)", "How did I ever miss that episode of QI?" ]
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[ "Sheiy is fucking awesome, def subbed to his patreaon for a while, he does quality urbex and cross country traveling videos", "Agreed, love this dudes traveling vids. Makes me miss Stobe the Hobo tho.", "Squeezing through the ventilation at the beginning was giving me serious anxiety.", "Who?", "**STOBE THE HOBO** Sorry I forgot about your hearing impairment.", "He and Big cat got stuck in one once and I had MAD anxiety watching. Like I would have probabaly panicked like a mf", "Awesome, love urbex videos!", "Vagrant holidays > Sheiy", "They have probably broken in because they aren't allowed in there. Something tells me the actual door is fine, but it's probably in a conspicuous location like a military outpost or police station.", "Or they got permission, but play it off like they're not allowed, for more views. Either way, the audience would have zero clue unless one of his group spoke out.", "Zero clue? I think it's pretty obvious that they're going through the ventilation system because they're trying not to be caught. In fact towards the end the guy literally says that one of their \"guides\" first had to cut his way in through the ventilation system just to get in there the first time.\n\nI highly doubt anybody is watching this thinking that 10,000 people had to rush into this bunker, during a nuclear attack, through the ventilation system.", "Wut? \n\n\nYou're misunderstanding. What I mean is, they can easily film themselves doing this, *with* permission, we would not know unless one of them spoke out, or someone who gave them permission to be somewhere did.\n\nYou realize they could just put on a show, going through the ventilation system, right? Of course they don't *need* to, but why not? It's more interesting and if you're trying to make it *seem* like you're sneaking in, that's a damn good way to do it.\n\nJust to be clear, I don't think they're lying. I'm just saying they could be, and we'd be none the wiser. A healthy bit of skepticism on youtube stuff is good, as plenty of channels have been found out to be completely fake, despite millions of people *knowing* it's real.", "Yeah but at least shiey isn’t a political cheapskate\n\nThe dude who made vagrant holidays is just complaining in long format and he was also the weirdo who made Surveillance Camera Man series" ]
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Fully stocked underground safehouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEvLHG3styM
/r/videos/comments/rmehzy/misinformation_should_be_illegal/
[ "What a totally misleading and dishonest video. For example, even a dummy like myself knows that that new and dangerous strains are a result of the virus having many opportunities to thrive and mutate. You can take a guess who provides those opportunities...", "So you trust apple’s Siri to give you completely accurate information?", "If misinformation is illegal, my wife will know how much I actually drink...", "So you will stop sharing misinformation, OP?", "Then no reddit." ]
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Misinformation should be illegal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MXTBGcyNuc
/r/videos/comments/rmeujo/how_the_taxonomy_supports_evolution_an_info/
[ "Aaronra. Classic series. I love every entry, especially the one on “belief=knowledge”.", "Aron went on to do an entire phylogeny breakdown series, going from bacteria to homo sapiens and tracking the key changes along the way. It's really interesting if you want to know our story, at least as well as current science can tell us. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQP_R-yiuw&list=PLXJ4dsU0oGMLnubJLPuw0dzD0AvAHAotW&index=14", "Aron, not Aaron. He really doesn't like it when people make that mistake." ]
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How the taxonomy supports evolution - an info packed classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFhfFAVedN4&t=12s
/r/videos/comments/rmeztn/happy_holidays_between_two_ferns/
[ "Do you know what the \"L\" stands for in Samuel L Jackson?\n\nIt's stands for \"motherfuckin\"", "This one wasn't funny. I like most of these but he missed it hard with this", "Just not funny…", "Always entertaining to see the interactions he sets up", "hard miss.. not funny at all", "He really got Toby…*you know me so well*", "Is this supposed to be funny?", "Funny like your face, BOOM!", "This was far more amusing than a face.", "Thank you\n\ni was waiting to see when the objective lord of comedy would render their verdict on a five-year old clip before knowing what to think", "This is all he does now, eh?\n\nEven the guy from Sugar Ray works more than this asshole.", "I laughed at the “which has a black guy in it” line, but that’s about it.", "Snakes on a plain bagel was the best joke here", "There's one exception. It's this one.", "Idk about you,,,,but if I make even 2 million dollars im retiring for as many years as i can. Fucking jet skis in some random lake town, no more movies for you.", "But comedy is subjective?", "Look at all the negative people on this thread. Like fuck, if you don’t like it, downvote and move on. Reddit is becoming YouTube comments for boring people.", "Die it is then..." ]
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Happy holidays Between Two Ferns.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmf1le/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rmf1le/deleted_by_user/
[ "No.", "No.", "No." ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/vdXKtEDqhsc
/r/videos/comments/rmg309/got_tired_of_10_minute_game_reviews_that_spend/
[ "Nice, but perhaps mention the platform. I wanted to try this then discovered it was only out on Switch.\n\nThat said, I really like this review format and would watch a lot more reviews like that.", "Not sure why you got downvoted. Maybe mention the price and yes, platform too. But I kinda want to play that game now. So great job!!", "Has this become a daily post for you?\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/SPlO0iw.png\n\nHow's that \"gorilla\" marketing working for your channel?" ]
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Got tired of 10 minute game reviews that spend half the video promoting sponsors and rambling, so decided to come up with quick 90 Second Game Reviews!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4etECdWkaY
/r/videos/comments/rmg340/grumpy_gourmet_takes_on_crif_dogs_in_the_east/
[ "Alright who the fuck stole my name? You god damn dirty thief!", "I think he took it 7 years ago lmao", "FUCK! Somebody get Grumpy a time machine, we gotta go back and save my name.... and warn people about covid.... but first get my name! Anyone got one of those sports almanacs that Marty had? Shit, we goin on an adventure boys!", "lmao you're wild. That sounds like a risky quest. \n\nHe might even more grumpy and run for president", "Shit we don't need no more grumpy fuckers running this place, got enough of them as is. I'm Grumpy, so you ain't gotta be!" ]
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Grumpy Gourmet takes on Crif Dogs in the East Village
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmg7yc/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rmg7yc/deleted_by_user/
[ "fantastic slo-mo and shockwave @ 6:37", "Warranty doesn't cover the batteries?", "Clearly the most reasonable solution.", "It does but there is more to this story. It is salvaged and refurbished by a 3rd party, then imported to eastern Europe and then to Finland, so Tesla obviously is not going to fix it.", "What gave you the idea that they were in support of what Tesla stands for? Was it dropping an effigy of Musk from a helicopter, to then blow up in the car?", "They way they used inspirational \"cancer survivor\" type music in this is fucking hilarious", "what?", "Didn't he already pay when he bought the car?" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/56sq3Dratww
/r/videos/comments/rmgsbb/i_used_a_nextgen_game_to_create_this/
[ "How do we know it’s not just The Matrix demo?", "It is the Matrix demo, just tweaked the camera settings a bit and removed the Matrix green tint", "The title is a bit misleading then, don't you think?", "This is pretty cool! It’s amazing how much unreal could be convincing at times. This and The Mandelorian are prime examples.", "it is mindblowing! definitely feels like something different than anything I tried before, cant wait to see more UE5 content" ]
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I used a next-gen game to create this photorealistic video of NYC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSU4dSVqB8
/r/videos/comments/rmh6ld/liquid_prell_shampoo_isle_of_green/
[ "And still the worst crap you could put on your hair😬😖", "I still use this occasionally, when I'm doing a color strip on my hair.", "… must kill Lincoln", "Lol" ]
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Liquid Prell Shampoo "Isle of Green"
https://youtu.be/HFLHZm6TzzE
/r/videos/comments/rmha8i/pelican_bay_prison_burpee_routine_500_burpees_in/
[ "Yeaaaa you did a bunch of shitty cardio!", "Impressive. When he's done and lays down with heart racing, muscles vibrating, metal taste in the mouth, that's when I get the earth shattering panic attacks that last about 4 days after doing something like this.", "That's fine, my joints will live on", "You get panic attacks from exercise? Or the sensation of having weak muscles afterward? That's interesting. For me the moments after a good workout are some of my most euphoric, unless it's a really brutal bit of exercise and even then it's euphoria battling pain.", "Yea I worked out at least five days a week for twenty years, then I started getting panic attacks randomly. Finally they would affect me after working out, so I'm scared to push myself anymore. It sucks man", "Fuck that does suck, you have my sympathies. Is it purely psychosomatic? Not being able to exercise would drive me crazy." ]
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Pelican Bay Prison Burpee Routine | 500 Burpees in 40 minutes!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9sI7WveN7vk&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/rmi42h/keeping_a_grocery_store_lobster_as_a_pet/
[ "Leon the lobster follow up video: https://youtu.be/EAmIEQb9QhM", "Awwww what a feel-good story. Thanks for sharing!", "Disgusting animal. Cute story. Leon seems alright.", "What’s disgusting about it?", "I mean... *Points vaguely at all of it.*", "Ok, princess.", "Such a beatiful, unique creature people just fucking boil it alive.." ]
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videos
Keeping A Grocery Store Lobster As A Pet
https://youtube.com/watch?v=alzC4vM64ok&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/rmi76d/geowizard_straight_line_mission_across_wales/
[ "I never thought I would have enjoyed a video about someone trying to keep to a straight line but the first two videos were great. Hope this one is interesting.", "That's exactly what happened for me - I watched the first one on a whim and he really pulled me in. There's a similar project involving trains called Brave Dave's Big Fat Freight Hop which I also found really interesting.", "Yeah the YouTube algorithm took me to the train hopping world also. check out crime pays and botany doesn't for a wierd biology lesson in the same vein.", "Big fat freight hop is superb" ]
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videos
GeoWizard - Straight Line Mission Across Wales (Attempt 3)
https://youtu.be/FCA5tY8e8aw
/r/videos/comments/rmic6r/press_1_button_to_get_free_bitcoin_and_ethereum/
[ "Fuck you scam boi I’ll drop my salty nutz in your mouth", "1", "How to join a botnet" ]
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Press 1 button to get FREE Bitcoin and Ethereum ($ 5,000 per day)
https://youtu.be/99Z2sykS4GI
/r/videos/comments/rmim6o/cats_play_a_shuffle_game_for_treats/
[ "Not my video - video courtesy of the Cat Navi Desk channel on YouTube.", "Cats have an excellent sense of smell, they don’t need to care about the shuffling.", "noticed they werent even looking but still guessed correctly", "Could be the cats are taking in clues from the person performing the tests. It might be similar to the counting horse trick by Clever Hans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans", "\"Hooman, the tests our ancestors will run on your Species will not be so cute.\"" ]
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videos
Cats play a shuffle game for treats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5I8wIy-H8
/r/videos/comments/rmivae/sittin_on_a_cock_cause_im_gay/
[ "Wow Will smith has changed over the years hasn't he.", "Ya and Bill Burr grew facial hair.", "Oh look it's those guys that used to be relevant.", "Those guys are all legendary comedians to be fair.", "What does Seinfeld says at the end?", "The full episode [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM1z9JyB5E)", "“Does he do the whistle?”", "Oh look it's those guys that ~~used to be relevant.~~ have so much money they don't need to work for the rest of their lives.", "This is a classic and its a bummer we didn't get to see more group chats like this. The Green Room is another good series.", "Watch Ricky Gervais at the 1:30 mark. He clearly is moving to give Chris Rock a high five then sees Chris Rock isn't paying any attention to him so Ricky tries to casually turn it into slapping his own knee. A perfect David Brent moment.", "Shortly after this taping, Louis blocked the only exit out of a room, pulled his dick out and jerked off in front of some poor woman trapped inside.\n\nWhat a \"comedic genius.\"", "I still randomly think about \"Sittin' on a cock 'cause i'm gay\" and start laughing to myself. Happens a couple times per year since I saw this air in 2011.", "I only come across people like you on Reddit.", "We should hang out in real life then, because I'd say this shit directly to your face, too.", "[ **Jump to 01:30 @** SITTING ON A COCK CAUSE I'M GAY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5I8wIy-H8&t=0h1m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Vault Boy, Video Length: [01:53])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5I8wIy-H8&t=0h1m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Oh, don't misunderstand. I'm glad I don't.", "Why would you say that to his face?", "Because he smugly tried to make the mistake of thinking I only say fucked up shit on reddit. Keep up gramps.", "Comedic geniuses?", "Wow, you're so brave.", "Proof?", "You said it, not me.", "I was asking why you would say “Shortly after this taping, Louis blocked the only exit out of a room, pulled his dick out and jerked off in front of some poor woman trapped inside.\n\nWhat a \"comedic genius.\"” to his face…", "Chris Rock holds that glass of water like a psycho", "I'm pretty certain this is the song they are talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8RCJlhOvw", "I don’t fully understand the remark? Can someone explain the whistle joke?", "Listen to the song….", "In the outro of the song, Otis Redding whistles the main melody as the song fades out. The mental image of causally whistling the melody while sitting on a cock is fucking hysterical.\n\nI think they all wished they’d thought of it first, it’s the perfect way to conclude the bit. Louis’ face is priceless when it sinks in.", "Well, one is kinda weird tbh…", "odd seeing chris rock i a room full of white people - last time i tried to watch one of his shows i gave up after 5 minutes of \"kill whitey\" punchlines", "When you say “fucked up shit” do you mean edgy or socially retarded? I only ask because I don’t think you are perceiving your image correctly.", "I just looked up Louis C.K.'s net worth and it was estimated to be $35 million, he will have zero issues finding a girl to awkwardly masturbate in front of.", "Woah easy there big guy, we don't want anyone to get hurt and you are scaring us.", "Zuckerberg vibes", "I wish he did that to me.", "> the main melody\n\nHe doesn't whistle the main melody", "Yes everyone else thinks it’s fine to flash women.", "If you want to see the whole thing it's called [Talking Funny \\(2011\\)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1909348/)", "Is the world really that shallow and transactionary? What could that money get you that your own hard work couldn’t?", "Fun. I'll ask you if it's OK if I masterbate while you do, you can agree, then complain about how the experience wasn't what you thought it would be and blame my successful career as the reason why you had to say yes in the first place. /s", "Jerry Seinfeld has no business being here.", "Someone to watch me yank it?", "I think he was saying, he doesn't find brave little culture warriors like you as much on other social media. \n\n\nYou took it as \"I would fight you\", because you are super tough and like someone said....scaring us half to death over here.", "Man you should be a comedian.", "[Maybe this will help](http://viewsync.net/watch?v=rTVjnBo96Ug&t=141&v=FQ5I8wIy-H8&t=9&mode=solo)", "I see you read the top comment from 8 years ago too", "I’ve heard this before but never attached it to the artist. Lmao, yes this joke is hilarious.", "So you are just a cunt both on reddit and in person?", "Man, r/rickygervais would have a field day with even just that one moment.\n\nThey'll a whole psychological profile of Ricky top to bottom in an hour for you.", "Perfect. Louis asked permission. One pair of women said no, so he didn't. The other pair of women said yea, so he did. Louis CK did not deserve to be crushed. Laughed at for sure, but not ruining his career. He's a fucking genius.", "No sense of humor obviously", "Did you just get here?", "It’s a sad fact of life that we all reduce our value to what someone will pay for us.", "phrasing", "Give Gemini Man a watch", "Imapeonabigbigdick.", "And since when does Adam Corolla have a British accent?", "You don't have a lot of friends, do you?", "3 legendary comedians, and Ricky Gervais.", "It is the best sub on reddit though.", "Are they one of those celebrity subs who actually hate the person they’re about despite being creepily obsessed?", "Yup, that's the one. Sitting on a cock that they hate...", "Oops. Mom was right, I don’t listen.", "not enjoying racist humor is something i guess ill just have to live with", "Ricky got a little Fallon in him there at the end", "Poor you", "His fingers fing really weird, no matter what he's finging. He doesn't know how to fing.", "And Norm McDonald was black?!", "LMAO he wasn't pretending your dumb shit was *brave*, he was saying it's only weirdos like you on Reddit that act like.... Well, like you.", "His fingers are like 8\" long or something and I dont think they are very strong since he needed both hands to hold the clup.", "Uh huh. Talk dirty to me, tough guy.", "Probably more than you do.", "Culture warrior?\n\nLol, my stupid comment sure rattled a lot of people, eh?", "Don't forget to use your position of power as a world famous celebrity and comedian to intimidate that person into anxiously give consent about it first, ok?", "Edgy?\n\nHe himself even admitted it was fucked up. Wow man, my inbox this morning is pretty lit up. My comment simply stating what happened sure made all you sexist tough guys upset eh?", "To the redditor that responded to me first about it. \n\nIs this really hard for you to understand or something?", "Took you five hours to think of that, then?", "Lol, \n\nIt's 9:23am here, smart guy. I just woke up and had a shower. You know how time zones work, right?\n\nI love how you and everyone else here got their Jimmies all rustled up because I sarcastically stated the exact thing he used to do. And you're accusing *me* of having no friends? Lol. \n\nYou're a stuck up loser Bud. How about that?", "Your rampant insecurity is hilarious", "Just remember, you asserted yourself to me. Not the other way around. I think it's you projecting this insecurity. Not me.", "You're the one who admitted to being an asshole IRL as well as on line, not me.", "Weird, innit", "I admitted to being an asshole? No, I said I'd say fucked up shit to your face in real life, not just on reddit.\n\nIf I can recite some fucked up shit Louis CK used to do, I'm the asshole? He even admitted to it himself. You and every other toughguy here downvoting me and blowing up my DMs apparently don't think it's ok when other people point that out, I guess.", "Yeah, and that's being an asshole. Hence why I questioned the number of friends you might have in real life, seeing as how most people don't like to experience that kind of thing.", "What does the number of friends someone has have to do with their ability to point out fucked up shit?\n\nI guess your tiny little bird brain never thought about the possibility that my friends are pretty chill and ALSO say fucked up shit that fucked up people did too, eh?\n\nLemme fix your comment for you: You HOPE that I don't have \"friends\" because YOU don't like something someone else said about something. \n\nWhich translates to being just as dumb and petty as my first comment. The difference is, my first comment was simply the truth. He probably DID do that afterwards, considering how old the video was. \n\nKeep it coming now, lets really turn this into a pointless argument.", "So you're an asshole who hangs out with other assholes. Makes sense.", "So much for your theory that I don't have much or any friends, right?\n\nme: make a dumb comment on reddit that was also kinda the truth\n\nyou and everyone else: get all angry about it, psychoanalyze me, blow up my DMs about it, and wonder about stuff like friends in my life and other nonsense.\n\nYep, I'm the unreasonable asshole here. Like I said, that was *what he used to do* so keep it coming. What other things do you fly off the handle about?", "Is 'the whistle' a callback to something earlier in the discussion because I didn't get why they were laughing so hard at the end of OP's clip.", "Oh, are you pretending to be a feminist now or is this still about the deficit of your self perception?", "When someone jerks off in front of me and I don't want to see it or participate I just leave.\n\nI don't agree to stay and then complain a decade later to the news media.", "If we're going to talk about the nuanced details of what happened, I think it's important to remember the power dynamic involved. It was also something that had been going on for a LONG time, not just once or twice, ten years before.", "See, I don't care about CK one way or the other. What got my attention was you admitting to being an asshole. Not something you see every day.", "speaking of perception, is it you who said I'm the feminist now? Because I don't remember saying that anywhere.", "OH NOEZ! You caught me being a cynical jerk about a guy who used his position of power and authority to creep women out. I'll be an asshole about that all day, bud.\n\nFor the record I also never specifically said I was AN ASSHOLE until now, and even now I'm saying I'm being one about THIS. Not that I am one in general.\n\nTry twisting those words up now that I've clarified that for you. I know you've been TRYING and harping on the fact you apparently think I've admitted I'm just an asshole in general, but I never said that.", "Saying edgy, cynical things to peoples faces is being an asshole. I'm not sure how you're not grasping that.", "No, I didn’t call you a feminist. If you could read, you would understand that I didn’t say that anywhere.", "So if you're an a-list celebrity you can't have sex with (or jerk off in front of) d-list or aspiring celebrities because you have more power than them and even if they consent it's fake consent because they're afraid you're going to get them fired from their next job?", "Oh I get it, this is about what YOU think is edgy and cynical, not about what I'm saying.\n\nFunny you're still trying to argue with me about this and tell me what I'm not grasping. Lemme break it down for you again: Talking about a comedian who sexually harassed women and was inappropriate with women isn't \"edgy\" or \"cynical.\" I have a *cynical* opinion about Louis because of what he *did,* and there's nothing wrong with that given the gravity of his choices and behavior. Fuck man, I don't even know why you're STILL trying to argue with me about it. He himself even admitted it was fucked up and wrong. \n\nJust because you'd rather conveniently forget about the creepy shitty things someone does, that doesn't mean the rest of us will. There's nothing \"edgy\" about talking about sexual assault or inappropriate behavior. Too bad you're still too emotionally stunted or self-absorbed to understand that yet. I'm sure you'll grow into it though.\n\nIt was YOU who deemed what I said \"edgy\" in the first place. Not me.\n\nThe real irony is, I actually like his work as a comedian, and even saw his NEWEST special he put out independently, where he even goes into detail about what happened and WHY it was wrong. Have you even seen it? Probably not. You're just another ASSHOLE on reddit, starting a pointless argument with someone.\n\nLike I said, keep ironically calling *me* the asshole here, lol.", "Nobody made you embarrass yourself but you, homie", "I'm not \"embarrased\" homie.", "if you drove past a cotton field filled with slaves picking cotton and heard them singing, would you just naively assume they must be having a good time and continue on?", "So you are agreeing that if you're a Ryan Reynolds you can't sleep with some woman that stars on a CW show I've never heard of before, because he's a more popular celebrity?", "It's funny that you dodged my question with another one of your own.\n\nBecause it's actually FROM Louis's NEWEST special he filmed, where he explained why what he did was wrong, because of the power dynamic that was happening. So go ahead and just keep assuming I'm some sort of asshole here, for pointing that out when HE HIMSELF also points it out in his own special.\n\nWhat CW show is Ryan Reynolds on? Isn't he also married to Blake Lively? If so, then yeah, I'd say sleeping with some chick on a CW show is wrong, because that would be adultery.", "[the whistle](https://youtu.be/rTVjnBo96Ug?t=2m23s)", "By \"embarrass yourself\" I obviously meant that you have made a fool out of yourself by repeatedly acting like an insecure weirdo, and it led to many people mocking you. \n\nIt's a pretty common phrase and it doesn't imply any level of self awareness out of the person who embarrassed themselves.", "Fine. He was whistling *a* melody.", "Your paragraphs are getting longer and a lot more defensive.\n\nAnd while you may not have said \"edgy,\" you did say \"I'll say this shit to your face.\" That's being an asshole.", "Hope food that code affect your career prospects?", "How the fuck did you extrapolate that out of my post?\nu/unmondeparfait, explique moi ca voir? My point being that they made enough money to not work. Explain to me where I mention any kind of morality or being good? I think you're the shithead here. Maybe not giant one, but still, learn to read.", "My paragraphs are getting longer? It's like YOU and one other person arguing with me about this, so stop pretending I'm the only one invested in this nonsense. I already made my opinions clear and even used an example of HIM explaining them too, and you're still here, commenting and pretending like I'm the one who started this shit with you, and not the other way around. \n\nIdiot.\n\nTry and have a merry Christmas, douche. Hopefully it's not ruined by people on the internet, sharing their opinions about sexual assault or what consent means.", "I mean, you're the one who says you'll be an asshole to people's faces, so why should I care about anything you have to say?", "Are you finished bro?\n\nI already said merry Christmas. Take a hike already.", "I love watching trolls suddenly realize they aren't getting the reception they anticipated, and trying to backpeddle.", "I wasn't anticipating ANY reception, douche. \n\nYou gonna keep going on and on about this, or should I block you next?", "Oh man, I'm gonna get blocked for calling you out. What a horrible thing that has to be for me.\n\nFace it, you came in, made a cringey comment you knew wouldn't get traction, then decided to take off against everyone who told you that you were being an idiot for being cringey. There's a reason you now have hundreds of downvotes in this thread, and it isn't because people are trying to defend CK. It's because you came in as an asshole, defended being an asshole, and refuse to admit you're being an asshole. That's why I'm still responding, because I'm hoping you'll look back through this entire thread and realize that maybe, JUST MAYBE, you started off in the wrong and then dug your own grave.\n\nBut I kinda doubt that, I have this feeling that you don't have the ability to realize that what you're saying, while true, might just be said in the wrong tone of voice.", "Reminds me of Ralph the fork truck driver. Ralph is an old backwoods boi from Kentucky. This man was 4'10 bald on top with long hair and a long bear. He was at least 65 years old and missing a lot of teeth and could barely speak. He had missing fingers and was a master of the fork truck and worked the only outside shift at the plant. He would separate materials and put them into the outside bins to be disposed of. He even built himself a shack overtime out on the back pad of random sheet metal and plywood. He ran a power cord that powered two things, his fan and his mini fridge. The fridge was filled with bottles of Mt. Dew, nothing else. The only time I've ever seen Ralph inside was early in the morning getting his cup of coffee. Now, before I continue it's important you know that fork trucks don't have suspension. They are very stiff and even the slightest bump in the concrete is jarring. So he rolled up the the front of the plant, and filled his coffee up to the brim. I mean this little styrofoam cup was at max capacity. I thought, \"This man's going to spill every drop on his way back outside,\" but Ralph had a technique. This snapping turtle soup eating man held his cup exactly like Chris Rock is holding his cup, one finger at the top, one finger at the bottom. Ralph rode into the blue yonder on that dirty fork truck, and with that technique he didn't spill drop. I've used it ever since and it works like a charm. God bless ya Ralph. I hope you're still squirrelin around on that backpad enjoying your mountain dew.", "I like Ricky Gervais, I watch everything that he does, but his laugh screams asshole.", "Seriously. I have never seen someone hold a cup like that.", "It's very obvious that he has done honest work cause that's how they teach you during OSHA training. It's a very safe way to grip it.", "The song is from the perspective of a lesbian woman going through conversion therapy.", "That is okay we are embarrassed enough about you for you." ]
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Sittin' on a cock 'cause I'm gay
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmiy0p/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rmiy0p/deleted_by_user/
[ "Oh, FFS.\n\nHere we go again.", "No. She supports women’s hard-won rights. Next.", "lol. What's your opinion on the matter? Seems like the US Quidditch team is dropping her name due to her recent tweet : \n\n \n> War is Peace. \n> \n> \n> Freedom is Slavery. \n> \n> \n> Ignorance is Strength. \n> \n> \n> The Penised Individual Who Raped You Is a Woman.\n\n[Source](https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1470092815506063365?lang=en )", "But a lot of people, including her supporters, say she's undercutting women by saying what she's saying. E.g. transwomen are women, and to make any distinction is discriminatory. \n\nI don't agree with it, but it its inline with the majority opinion (at least on Twitter).", "The idea that she \"defends women's rights\" implies that they are under attack by trans women instead of conservatives, specifically conservative cis- men.", ">lol. What's your opinion on the matter?\n\nThat if you want to watch the Internet get really stupid, you bring up Jo Rowling's views on trans.", "who gives a shit", "Does the guy ever get around to mentioning JK Rowling, or is it just a very misleading clickbait title?", "A lot of people. She's been labelled as transphobic, betraying her fanbase, ruining her good image. Because she thinks some of the discussions surrounding trans women and cis women are demoralizing to women. \n\nThis is also a part of the national thought process. Currently females are competing in sports with trans athletes. Girls and women say it feels unfair, where as LGBT rights groups and sports organizers think otherwise. \n\nBecause of the way we've chosen to discuss politics and how we problem solve, the argument for trans women makes sense when you view it from a identity based ideological lens.", "I think its 8 mins into it", "True, but the opposing opinion to her isn't insignificant. A lot of people subscribe to the ideology, and some of them contribute to policy decisions. E.g. Trans women are allowed to compete in the olympics with other women.", "Good policy has yet to come out of Internet debates.", "She is literally the definition of a TERF, a movement that claims to be about women rights, but is at its core about bigotry against trans women. \n\nThere are literally hours worth of content on places like YouTube alone putting literally everything into context and making her ultimate transphobia less of an opinion and more of a fact that simply becomes too glaring to ignore. \n\nI don’t think she’s some malicious witch of person. That’s just too broad of a brush. \n\nI do think she is Transphobic however, irrefutably so, and that’s a pretty big blotch of ink on what would be an otherwise rather clean page.\n\nEdit: literally", "This is gonna get spicy", "rich author disses transexuals, other rich rocket guy call saving diver a pedo, rich people get drunk and make fools of themselves on twitter because it's easy and fast, more news at 11", "But, that's just like, her opinion", "And this dude does not abide", "Honestly if you get past the knee jerk reaction and her idiotic way of approaching the issue, you can empathize with her a little\n\nHer best point is that anyone in the UK can enter women’s facilities simply by announcing they have switched genders. She seems to have PTSD due to some kind of abuse and is triggered by men invading a woman’s safe space. Our reaction to trauma isn’t always logical.\n\nWhich, ok, maybe there should be an additional step to being legally a woman. I don’t know how it works over there. We can discuss that.\n\nBut I lived in a co-Ed dorm all throughout college and this men and women sharing facilities just worked and it was no problem. Get past the stigma of doing your makeup next to a dude shaving and in the end we are all there to get cleaned up and go.\n\nI think generally there is a need to brand people enemies and shame them without really listening or understanding why they think this. I don’t agree with her but you will never convince someone to change their view if you just attack their defense mechanisms.", "\"who raped you\" is what lost me. This implication that trans people are sex criminals is the definition of transphobic.", "> I don’t agree with her but you will never convince someone to change their view of you just attack their defense mechanisms.\n\nThis is a great point to make, but I wouldn't support \"attacking her defense mechanisms\" either. Only her point, which at its core is that trans women are an ongoing threat that needs to be reined in by keeping trans rights limited. She has not tried to explain her position beyond what sounds like anecdotes and speculation pulled out of thin air. How many people have abused the loose gender restrictions like this? If it were a statistically significant trend, there would be something to her words. But it strikes me much like Trump's claim that the southern US border is penetrated by \"rapists\" and \"thieves\" as if that's more of the Mexican population than the Americans. Baseless and playing to prejudice, not from a real concern for anyone's well-being.\n\nIt would be a bit insensitive of people to expect her to \"put up or shut up\" in terms of divulging any related traumatic experience she had, but until she does, it appears we're at an impasse. She has no proof and her opponents have none that *she* has none. Then the best we could hope for is that she tries harder to show compassion for people that did not choose to be a political controversy.", "the fact that Rowling was one of the most universally-loved people in the world and decided to throw that away to die on the hill of TERFism will never not be funny.", "But its in context of literal rapists.", "Well the books are kind of racist too", "A truth I have been forced to reckon with as well. \n\nLike with the Transphobia it was a really hard pill to swallow, but the facts were all there and fairly presented, so I was left with no choice. \n\nAnother blotch of dubiously large ink it is.", "Directly responding to an article about Scottish police policies on that exact issue. She didn't come up with the scenario.", "Can you explain what is racist about them? I am not saying they aren’t, I am just genuinely curious about the take.", ">TERFism will never not be funny\n\nNever heard that term before. Trans exclusionary radical feminist sounds nuts. Is this perceived as a common political thought?", "didnt JK make dumbledore gay to apease the alphabet people?", "That rather depends on the threads you read! Millions of ordinary women - and men - who are not remotely bigoted support her. Yet because she took the mickey out of an article which referred to ‘people who menstruate’, many regard her as the devil incarnate. Maybe educate yourself rather than blindly believing the trans activists? https://www.glamour.com/story/a-complete-breakdown-of-the-jk-rowling-transgender-comments-controversy", "Yes, she is a TERF.", "No it doesn’t. It refers to one specific individual who is a rapist and who has a penis and the absurdity of having to refer to them as a woman.", "A lot of people have takes of their own\n\nOne thing that always stood out to me was the goblin (?) bankers. There is a race of people in Harry Potter who do all the magical world's banking, who have hooked noses and pointy ears and are very greedy. The similarity to historical representations of Jews is striking to me. And unlike with, say, the house elves, there is no sjw take on it. Rowling doesn't indicate that there's anything wrong with viewing the goblins badly. Every character hates the goblins, and in HP they _are_ actually nasty and greedy. \n\nThere are lots of other things that other people have noticed and thought about. I can't remember all that clearly unfortunately. I haven't read the books for years and years now\n\n\nedit: I have more to say\n\nLike, a member of a far right political party in the UK called the BNP once said he wasn't a 'racist', but a 'racialist', meaning he 'appreciated' the different attributes of the different races and he thought they should do what they were good at. He was widely laughed at for this distinction. But Harry Potter _is_ a 'racialist' fantasy. Firstly Harry discovers that there's a super race living in secret amongst the normal people, and he's one of them. Then he discovers that there are tens or hundreds of other conscious races, all with unique skills and racial psychologies - but Harry's new super-race is still at the top, thankfully.\n\nIf you think about it logically, this shouldn't need to be racist at all. After all, it's just a story, not a manifesto or a statement about how the world actually is. But the fact that Harry Potter is a compelling fantasy is worrying. It's like, under the guise of writing a fantastical novel, Rowling was able to smuggle in all our old prejudices, and make them look shiny and innocent.", "So are you saying that *any* bloke who puts on a frock and a bit of lippy should be able to: \n* go into communal changing rooms where women and girls may be naked\n* stay in women’s shelters with domestic abuse victims\n* be jailed in women’s prisons\n* stay in women’s hostels or homeless shelters\n* apply for posts with women-only shortlists\n* enter sports competitions/join sports teams as a woman despite the physical advantages (strength, speed, weight, height etc) men have\n\n…to name a very few examples? And that’s before we get into her concerns about parents pushing kids into getting meds or surgery with life-changing irreversible consequences because they don’t want a gay child or because they have a mental health issue which *could* be fixed without either!\n\nWhy should women, who are already vulnerable and disadvantaged, be put at risk so as not to upset men’s feelings?\n\nWhat she is objecting to is misogyny and homophobia, pure and simple.", "I'm saying that any male who puts on a frock and a bit of lippy is probably not doing it to prey on women, and if they are, that can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis because it would probably be readily apparent that they are predators. Women's sports are an issue I don't feel I can have a confident stance on because there's no mutually satisfying answer to that. \n\nAlong the same lines, what parents push their kids into sex-change surgery? Being trans seems more unacceptable than being gay to those against both. If anything it's the kid that knows they want to change and the parents that would resist. From what I understand of GRS, it is the last step after counseling and hormone treatment. And specifically in kids, they are given puberty blockers which delays the onset of puberty until they are certain of what they want and can go either way.\n\n>Why should women, who are already vulnerable and disadvantaged, be put at risk so as not to upset men’s feelings?\n\nAre these \"men\" you're referring to the ones that others would recognize as trans women? It kind of undermines your credibility if you reject their entire identity wholesale.\n\nI'm not saying that expanded trans rights won't create opportunities for predators. I'm saying that the kind of people seeking those rights are not doing so for predatory reasons, and implying that's a serious problem without the statistics to back it up is basically preemptive discrimination in search of a cause.", "So it’s okay for women to be raped, assaulted, put at risk, made to feel unsafe, have their dignity undermined, have their opportunities reduced, because any guys who are predators will be dealt with after they have raped or assaulted someone?!\n\nHomophobic parents: you’d think! But this is a known issue, particularly, it seems, in the US. See eg: https://quillette.com/2018/10/23/the-unspoken-homophobia-propelling-the-transgender-movement-in-children/\n\nIf a child is given puberty blockers and then changes their mind about transitioning, the damage has already been done. Grown men will forever have the penis of a pre-pubescent boy. The meds can also adversely affect growth, bone health and fertility and have no effect on the negative feelings of kids with severe gender dysphoria.\n\nAnd there we go. My credibility is ‘undermined’. Or to put it another way, woman, STFU.", "Yeah, here we have a reactive justice system with the presumption of innocence, not the other way around. Otherwise we'd prevent rape by banning all contact between men and women, and between lesbians and straight women, etc. With the presumption that trans women are predators, all those bad things you listed are undeservedly applied to them. They're a group already prone to suicide and as far as I can tell, not disproportionately made up of criminals. Likewise would-be rapists don't dress up as women to \"infiltrate\" women's spaces in such a way.\n\nI'm interested in your link so I'll read it soon.\n\nBut on the point of puberty blockers, the result is that it delays it temporarily, not eliminates it altogether. I have no firsthand experience with the topic but have no reason to believe any doctor would okay their use if the results were immediately permanent. That kind of defeats the purpose." ]
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videos
[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/ffv15SajYqk
/r/videos/comments/rmjbr8/90s_take_on_a_zelda_movie_trailer/
[ "r/facepalm the movie is the never ending story", "Thought that looked familiar lol", "That first part before it starts though… a real-life titanic? They know that Titanic was real, right?", "We already have a Zelda live action movie. It came out in the 80's and it's called Legend and it fucking rules.", "Has some clips from Legend mixed in" ]
5
videos
90's take on a Zelda movie trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DwJNQMBCOk
/r/videos/comments/rmjqya/modernday_applications_redepicted_in_the_os_of/
[ "Fantastic reimagining. Exactly how I'd expect it, with a proper ending and everything!", "Amusing", "That's just how Gmail looked though...", "Liked the music.", "YOU WISH computers back then were this smooth and fast though.\n\nThey were a nighmare, sometimes you just sat there for 2 minutes waiting for an application to open.", "I run a custom front end on my Linux called \"Openbox\". It's bare bones simple and most of my \"modern\" apps pop up like the old school Apple ones in this video.\n\nI love it. \n\nHere's an example of the desktop. [Openbox](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/71a67171-6555-4942-aaa6-36b9103e6ca2/d3kqirm-19277174-19c9-4a9a-85ec-e2f5e07b3ce9.jpg/v1/fill/w_900,h_506,q_75,strp/arch_linux_openbox_desktop_by_athulram-d3kqirm.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi83MWE2NzE3MS02NTU1LTQ5NDItYWFhNi0zNmI5MTAzZTZjYTIvZDNrcWlybS0xOTI3NzE3NC0xOWM5LTRhOWEtODVlYy1lMmY1ZTA3YjNjZTkuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTkwMCIsImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NTA2In1dXX0.vBSSaaC2wof99FOVZ1TpGzG9CXr0Se4SAbb7xlWr8yA)", "What’s the name of the song? Whatever was playing off of “Spotify” wasn’t the title.", "Would love a link to the track.", "It's [\"Music to Watch boys To\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kYsxoWfjCg) by Lana Del Rey. Super distinctive voice.", "Still can viewed in HTML mode! Source-work on a ship, internet is shit", "It’s not exactly this one. It is this song but it’s a remix", "And now they take no more than 2 seconds, which is just long enough for me to click back to my Facebook tab and forget what I was actually doing.", "This is art", "If you get a kick out of this and want to play a game thats basically this plus... a lot more I can't say without spoiling- try [Hypnospace Outlaw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb4Jul496QE). By far one of my favorite games I've ever played. Shit made me cry.", "100% A+, Can tell video author is a product designer for his day job. All these apps are part of my daily workflow and it's super fun to see them reimagined in his style.", "Sometimes when the computer needed to complete a long task, I'd BRING A BOOK TO READ while it did it. I can only dream of having such an attention span now.", "please let me know if you find the remix", "https://soundcloud.com/husi-rass/lana-del-rey-music-to-watch", "I looked far and wide. Must be OC made specifically for the video that hasn’t been released yet. Real fucking bummer. Don’t even know how OP posted the video since it doesn’t show up on the creator’s page.", "I opened it in youtube and its an unlisted video", "/u/justkillmenow Just found it. Disregard everything I just said haha", "Sick man thanks", "oh yeah", "https://i.imgflip.com/3dctti.gif", "this creator put a LOT of effort into this", "Add about 10 seconds to opening every application and make the video of the Zoom call look five times shittier, like 176 x 144 @ 4 fps h261 stream, and then you got the real feel.\n\nAlso reduce the music down to what a 24 kbps RealAudio stream would sound like. RealAudio is nowhere near as good as aac and opus is today. It would sound like slightly better than AM, but not by much.", "Gotchu fam https://soundcloud.com/husi-rass/lana-del-rey-music-to-watch", "When the Figma board dragged and you saw the preview moving. That wouldn’t happen. You get a dotted outline that would show you the boundaries of the artboard.", "when the game Unreal came out, it shipped with the unreal engine. oh boy, you'd double click and go make a coffee, 2-5 minute launch on that bad boy", "Counselor Ronnie reporting for duty. For duty. For doo-doo-duty. \n\nDrugs are bad; you can’t take them.", "Drugs are bad, man. Counselor Ronnie taught me all about the dangers of T-Nubs.\n\n>!I'm pretty sure its real unlike Beefbrain.!<\n\nedit: why am I being downvoted for referencing the game we're talking about", "Yeah, there's quite a few indications that the person who made this isn't exactly familiar with the OS's/time they're trying to replicate. I felt the same way with all that album art in the media player; that would have taken *forever* to load, especially if it changed when shuffling or something. And no visualizer? That shit was all the rage, although I don't know if mac specifically had one, I remember that being a HUGE part of Windows Media Player.\n\nFor a much more accurate portrayal of older stuff, OS's, programs, The Website is Down is fucking A-mazing for going back in time with IT stuff lol.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGljemfwUE&t=38s", "The most unrealistic part of this is where he clicks a colour picker and manages to select a perfect gray #262626. Psssh as if!\n\nAlso I realize it's a joke but there is nothing like the error at the end. Would have fit well if it was a \"Sorry, a serious system error has occurred\" dialog.", "I have an iMac G3 and a PowerMac G4 on OS 9. the G3 tends to run the \"everyday\" applications *ok* (as in the ones that existed then, word processing and photoshop from the time and stuff). That is, if I had to use it I'd find it acceptable for those tasks. My PowerMac G4 flies in comparison though. When I tried it could even browse the web surprisingly well using Classilla, though of course youtube was off the table. (Though... I never tried it, hmmm...)", "The most accurate part for me was having a zoom call, it getting ruined because of someone's awful connection and then realising it could have just been one instant message anyway", "OMG. This is painful!", "You mean program? No one used the term application before the app store.", "Remember when beating up your computer was a thing.", "Yeah since I was like 5 years old I would get my first fits of rage over those old pieces of crap.\n\nI remember when it decided to just not read my LEGO Island disk anymore and kicked the PC, got shouted at, but somehow fixed the reader with that kick and worked again...", "i wish there was a way to make modern macOS look like this, makes me feel nostalgic for a very different era", "That isn't even remotely true.", "Enjoyed the video!", "Yeah damn this guy entirely forgot how damn slow the internet and opening things was. It feels so off that he could open something with a splash screen for in less than 30 seconds.", "I'm pretty confident apple introduced the word app as a synonym for program to the general public with the app store for the ipod touch.", "\"App\", yes, but not \"application\".", "Disappointed that that wasn't a real Spotify artist.", "Apple has long used the term, even in OS 9.\n\nSee this [screenshot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_9#/media/File:Mac_OS_9.0.4_emulated_inside_of_the_SheepShaver_emulator.png) on Wikipedia for Mac OS 9. In the Apple menu, see \"Recent Applications.\" \n\nApple existed before the iPhone.", "Also Mac OS was a complete nightmare. Just a real fucking mess that Apple wanted rid of many years prior but couldn't.\n\nFor all the chat of making computers easy etc they neglected to inform much of the bandaged together shitpile that was Mac OS in the pre-OSX era.", "I remember it different but I'm not a native English speaker so we might have called it a program here for longer than the anglophone world. \"application\" is pretty anglo-specific. Where I'm from it only refers to mobile apps.", "Application [was already ubiquitous by Windows 386](https://youtu.be/bLuC4yZk7us?t=11) and it's certainly older than that.", ">YOU WISH computers back then were this smooth and fast though. \n> \n>They were a nighmare, sometimes you just sat there for 2 minutes waiting for an application to open.\n\nWhile walking to school with no shoes on, uphill, both ways, in 5 feet of snow!", "And how Chrome looked. \n\nIt makes me think they just grabbed old Chrome and threw it in.", "Opens ableton and no change", "Internet is shit because someone forgot to disable auto-update on windows or the IT officer tried to change the cables on the VSAT equipment. Source-used to work with ship internet.", "That google page isn’t accurate at all. The search site would’ve been much less cluttered. They were all about focusing on the search, not trying to look like a blend of yahoo and altavista", "And back then you couldn't swipe through Reddit in the mean time. You actually had to wait.", "Winamp - it really whips the llamas ass", "I never used apple sites in the 90s/2000s", "Nah, I remember using Chrome when it was initially released. It definitely didn't look as clean as it does today, but it has maintained the same general design and feel for most of its life.", "No joke the UX of some of the programs looks way better than the real deal", "rock dude, thanks", "https://soundcloud.com/husi-rass/lana-del-rey-music-to-watch", "Hah, never heard of it, I thought it was a reference to the i-everything from Apple", "I think that was a MacOS only thing, Windows had live view dragging since like 3.1 or 95.", "Am I the only one that prefers the older aesthetic to current computers, especially smartphones? The with the new stuff it isn't always clear what things are clickable.", "I didn't post the comment you're talking about though", "I remember i-everything. My comment was me attempting to say that I thought the other commenter was referencing that “era” by calling out iGoogle (because I don’t remember the platform)", "Computer working shitty again! Time to [rebuild the desktop](http://www.essentialmac.com/fix/rebuild.html). This site says you should do it once a month.\n\nThe Win3.1 equivalent was just reinstalling windows whenever it got fucked.", "Yeah, I think moving was live in Mac OS 8. That said, many heavy graphic apps like Photoshop and illustrator didn’t support this until later. Some still don’t for certain actions.", "Hypnospace Outlaw has some good media player skins. Here's a song about it. https://youtu.be/usB0TZZX438", "No prob! I think you have a good point anyway, especially if I had said what you said I said", "Google had some weird search products, man. That was a real customizable homepage they had. Their normal page still existed but you could redirect to iGoogle if you wanted. It would almost never have been used on an OS 9 machine though as OS X was both compatible with the machine shown and also more contemporary with Google (I grew up using iGoogle on a Mac OS X machine... initially through Dial-up).", "That's not even close to how Chrome looked... It didn't even exist until 2009 and it certainly never looked like that. What that is, is a copy of the Mac OS version of Netscape Navigator with a Chrome logo replacing the Netscape logo.", "I started out on 9.6k and was relieved when I could get a 14.4 and then a 28.8k modem. Took some time for me to get to 56k though", "I am not really that old, all things considered, but still had dial-up up until maybe 2005 at my grandmothers in a city and no internet at all at home until 2008/2009. Loading stuff took so long on 56k, especially because 90% of the internet had already moved on from it by then. 1.5 Mbps DSL was amazing to see (still really crap for downloading large games or movies though, even at the time)." ]
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videos
Modern-day applications re-depicted in the OS of yesteryear.
https://youtu.be/0fICskMO-SA
/r/videos/comments/rmkd7y/something_in_the_sky_tonight_in_texas/
[ "Looks to be skydivers doing s show", "we are not alone in this world", "Are there any other videos?\n\nThis was filmed in Ft Worth, which has a US Navy Air Station that flies all kinds of planes, helicopters and drones. This also kind reminds me of videos I've seen of air dropped parachute flares.", "They're parachute flares. It's why they keep burning out. Similar to what people thought they witnessed over Phoenix years ago.", "Lol pump your breaks, Mulder", "military flares.", "Yeah, except the parachute flares were either a cover up or a huge coincidence for the huge, silent Flying V that flew over central Arizona shortly before that. Source: I’m a direct eyewitness to the real incident.", "I don’t think you know what the term “cover up” means.", "People on Texas coast describing same thing, same time to the south. Definitely not flares, maybe space debri burning up.", "Ok, distraction? Mis-direction?", "[Argument from ignorance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance)", "**[Argument from ignorance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance)** \n \n >Argument from ignorance (from Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents \"a lack of contrary evidence\"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes the possibility that there may have been an insufficient investigation to prove that the proposition is either true or false.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "Is that an actual response or….? Look, call it whatever you want. I was there. Thousands of us saw a huge, silent, v shaped object in the sky. An hour later or so, Luke AFB sends planes out to drop flares, and those images are what was broadcast to the whole world. Those were easily explained as being parachute flares, while the rest of us that witnessed the truly unexplainable first event are left saying “hey, what about the first event? The media and the military buried the first event with images, video and stories about the parachute flares, and basically disregarded anything to do with the actual UFO. It’s widely believed that Luke AFB did this on purpose to distract from the original sightings. You wanna look up what that’s called on Wikipedia too?" ]
13
videos
Something in the sky tonight in Texas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsQH4uHimWM
/r/videos/comments/rmkv2y/jeremy_clarkson_casually_invents_the_word_yeet/
[ "he's saying \"eat\"", "Y'eat", "A true pioneer, that one. \n\nSometimes he staggers himself with his own genius.", "First one was yeet, second one was definitely eat", "That's a shaved gorilla", "https://youtu.be/rLvbVLmzHNM?t=16\n\nit goes back way earlier, here Wednesday definitely says yeet not neat", "I think it's a Porsche actually" ]
7
videos
Jeremy Clarkson casually invents the word "Yeet"
https://youtu.be/4txVqr1eNwc
/r/videos/comments/rmkwrt/cool_guy_has_chill_day/
[ "That is just so weirdly terrifying looking.", "When you watch this at 30 and halfway through you're like \"wait, was this video this racist when I was 15?\"", "Grape drank, watermelon, blackface.\n\nYeah \"cool guy\" would definitely not fly in a 2021 high school. Crazy how fast things have changed.", "goofy to racist in record time!", "Where's the blackface?", "I will never not upvote this", "There's one shot with him carrying a watermelon and grape soda. There's a lot of better places to be upset about racism than this.", "The perspective shift kind of makes me sad tbh. I'm not saying the racist undertones aren't there, but time was I could just watch a video like this and chuckle mildly at how silly it was.", "Yeah he's purple to me?", "The racist undertones of a weird alien-thing that struts around like a badass motherfucker, winning the hearts of those who cross his path?", "wasnt racist then, isnt racist now.\n\nwhat has changed is you, back at 15 you werent so throughly brainwashed by political bullshit, you are now.", "Dawg, he's literally eating watermelon and drinking grape soda.", "Is that racist against aliens? Is it because the music in the background is funk? I'm not seeing the part that connects it to black people.", "cancel this motherfucker", "I'm so white I'm nearly see-thru and I love both of those things. Weird right?", "He's def not purple, see video thumbnail, and a white kid takes the fake head of a darker skinned person and grabs a watermelon 🍉 and grape soda 🍇, two common southern black stereotypes while he in the grocery store, that's no coincidence.\n\nThese kids would get grilled as racist by today's standards, or if they ever ran for politics this video would get dragged out as being such.\n\nI'm not saying that is right or wrong, in 2009 though it was okay to poke fun at stereotypes, see Tropic Thunder for example, but today that shit does not fly." ]
19
videos
Cool Guy has Chill Day
https://youtu.be/W09QCLmnCUU
/r/videos/comments/rmljfa/why_almost_every_town_in_america_has_a_thai/
[ "After 3:32, you can see a fly flying around and landing on the spoon in one of the dishes.", "I definitely noticed that, and it bugged the hell out of me.", "LOL at Dave & Busters associated with sad divorced men.\n\nA quick Googling suggests that the video is correct at least in some generalities. (With regards to Thai restaurants; didn't check the Dave & Busters thing.) It sounded odd to me at first, but really any American franchise restaurant chain is kind of similar in overall concept, but it sounds like your local Thai food place has a lot more autonomy while still having a huge help from Thailand for getting set up. I'm digging it.\n\nEdit: I just googled [dave and busters divorced men](https://www.google.com/search?q=dave+and+busters+divorced+men) and the first result was \"The Story of Dave & Buster - Company History\". So...confirmed?", "Just add a little Raid as seasoning.", "tldw: farang marries/sponsors thai woman", "[ **Jump to 03:32 @** Why Almost Every Town In America Has a Thai Restaurant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W09QCLmnCUU&t=0h3m32s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Half as Interesting, Video Length: [05:30])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:27](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W09QCLmnCUU&t=0h3m27s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "\"Almost every town\" does it mean like, almost every mid sized or larger city?", "I've traveled a lot (in the US) in the past couple of years and noticed Thai food places are quite common even in tiny cities. Heck, one truck stop had two food trailers out front: One crappy looking burger & fries place, and a Thai thing that actually had decent yellow chicken curry.\n\nNo idea if Thailand assisted with that, but there is a lot of Thai out there.", "Damn, now I feel bad for enjoying propaganda food. How can I unwatch this video?", "Is this guy winding us up? All this seems really unlikely.", "Maybe a regional thing? I definitely wouldn't expect to find many thai places in any of the small towns here in west michigan. A casual google search shows maybe two within half an hour of driving of me. Like I thought, int he mid sized city about half an hour away.\n\nAbsolutely none in any of the myriad of small towns in between the bigger metro areas", "> They're going for a form of soft power via their food\n\nGotta do something America already locked down marvel movies lol", "tl;dw a variety of spiced foods is more popular than rice and beans in America.", "I'm down with this kind of imperialism.", "Gastro-imperialism?", "Why, because it's delicious.\n\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.\n\n\n^^^^sponsored ^^^^by ^^^^Government ^^^^of ^^^^Thailand", "Seems to me mexican restaurants are more prevalent than any other kind of restaurant in the US.", "In California I've definitely come across Thai food places in small towns. My grandmother used to live in Atascadero CA. Population 30,000, 86% white, 2% Asian (685 people, mostly non Thai) and has 3 Thai restaurants. Neighboring Paso Robles (45,000) has more.\n\nShe loved going to one of them, and looking at the video her favorite was definitely the \"cool basil\" style model restaurant. I was always surprised that it compared favorably to places I'd eaten in Los Angeles and San Francisco.\n\nI just looked up several towns with less than 10,000 people on Yelp and many of them have 1-2 Thai restaurants with good reviews. Every town is definitely an exaggeration, but I'm surprised how true it is.\n\nI can definitely get behind diplomacy that involves widespread quality food.", "Also, awesome food", "\"What is missing from this town? Indian, thai, chinese... Ok, thai it is\".. \n\n\nThat is how this works, i live in Finnish coast, <50k town and if there is ethnic cuisine that is missing, someone will fill that niche.", "Every town that's like 50,000 plus in population has...Thai, pho/Vietnamese, Poke, hotpot, sushi, multiple Chinese restaurants and Chinese buffets\n\nBut in my town we didn't have the Thai restaurant until about 10 years, poke 5 years ago, and hotpot 2 years ago, approximately.", "ok if you're talking \" towns of at least 50k people\" then sure i buy that, but that's what I call a mid range City. most towns around me are like... 4k people, often less", "I wanted to be an internet contrarian and reply with the official definition of \"city\" from the Census Bureau or some other US government agency, but it's actually incredibly ambiguous.", "My impression is that standard American Thai food is a lot more authentic than standard American Chinese food. I'm curious why that is. My theory is that Chinese food gained widespread popularity during an era in which Americans were less adventurous so things like deep fried pieces of chicken in a sweet sauce became established as paradigmatic American Chinese food.", "I’m shook. I’m currently trying to find ways to keep my favorite Cool Basil open." ]
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[ "Whatever that guy is getting paid, double it.", "After dealing with shitty entitled customers the rest of the year playing an obnoxious character right to customers' faces probably feels a bit cathartic.", "\"Uhm, we already did double it\"" ]
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[ "Another victim of the justice system.", "hero", "Wow! I forgot Amazon started by selling books", "[Creator of web.py. Reddit Co-founder. Someone who advocated for internet rights and the need for an open internet. RIP.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz)", "I'm beginning to think this guy didn't actually kill himself. He certainly doesn't seem like the type to do that kind of thing from this video.", "rip", "I admire this person so much i wish it hadn't ended for him like that ... he should've been allowed to move on from his ordeal because I genuinely believe he was a net positive and-then-some contributor to society. Watching the video: There is so much life and possibility from his words ... that was the golden age for the internet compared to where we're standing now. A lot of the freedoms he's talking about are earnest and now we have qanon and I can't understand how people believe JFK is coming back and it's publicly on display - not just an internet backroom chat anymore ... supported by the internet and on full display.", "The Internet’s Own Boy \n\nhttps://youtu.be/9vz06QO3UkQ\n\nStory of a genius.", "It's hard to remember how different things were back then. Youtube was only a year old when this came out.", "The one thing a ton of suicides have in common is family and friends saying \"he seemed fine we had no idea\" \n\nSomeone being passionate about their work doesn't mean they aren't struggling in their head and during dark times. \n\nIt's incredibly irresponsible to judge someone's mental state off a 9 minute video", "Incredibly irresponsible lol", "Do tell us more about your expert opinion on this man's mental state.", "One of those people who, if it came out he was actually assassinated, I wouldn't be shocked. An innovative force of knowledge distribution that any gov would be scared of.", "Be curious. Read widely. Try new things. What people call intelligence just boils down to curiosity. ~ Aaron Swartz", "Then you’re delusional.", "Reddit does its best to minimise or even totally remove Aaron from its history,", "There are definitely some questions around his death. Sad it's all just swept away.", "Definitely some questions around his death. And interesting how many downvotes those questions tend to get.", "You're stupid.", "RIP", "The [documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vz06QO3UkQ) about Aaron Swartz is very good, I really recommend it. \"The Internets Own Boy\".", "You’re stupider.", "Are you telling me the pacer activities weren't are threat? This activism on sopa, Or his open access manifesto? He wanted freedom of information and he was someone who clearly brute forced this every chance he got.", "I immediately dismiss people who don’t proofread and/or capitalize words after commas.\n\nIt shows a lack of fundamental understanding of language at all. In no romantic language do you capitalize after a comma. This is day one basics period vs comma.", "He was an internet cowboy in the wild west of the internet.\n\nBut then society came... With their laws and rules and expectatition. It's like the world don't want people like him no more...", "The US should have faced global condemnation and sanctions for its crimes against humanity.", "The internet was developed by the military and is owned by large corporations. Please stop romanticizing the internet.", "You are using contractions in written language and are unaware that you put a period after abbreviated forms of words - such as versus/vs. - while unironically attacking people personally over their grammar, so I doubt your pathetic comment comes from a position of good faith. Never mind the fact that most people are speaking English as their second language while you probably know just one to begin with. Fuck off, loser.", "The internet was developed simultaneously by countless of people around the world, most of whom are public researchers have nothing to do with the military or corporations.", "This kid advocated for Trumpism before Trumpism.", "No.", "You're right, the foundation of the Internet was developed by the DoD - then called ARPANET, but it wouldn't be shit without for example HTTP, which was developed by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN, just to name one example. Or the earlier version of it called Gopher developed by a dude named Mark McCahill at the university of Minnesota, or IRC which was developed by Jarkko Oikarinen from Finland, just to name a few things. Cisco - which is one of the leading network infrastructure hardware vendors, was created in a garage by a husband and wife.\n\nIt's not all US military, far from it.", "Yeah! So should England and Belgium and China and Mongolia and Russia and Germany and Brazil and Austria and Australia and South Africa and and...", "He is Shatoshi. Im 100% sure of it", "It happened with Assange back when they wanted to crack down on this sort of thing hard, so they made an example out of Swartz. \n\nThe internet is only as good as the people who use it imho. Many people out there have an agenda and want to make you believe certain things, and many more people are unable to use critical thinking skills to weed these people out.", "For punishing Aaron Swartz for breaking the law? Perhaps the sentence was a bit harsh, but he did break the law.", "Whataboutism", "I made a mistake on my phone, and I don't go back and correct shit on there because its too tedious. Sorry it upset you so much you had to tell me you are dismissing me on my mistake, as appose my my argument. So, to sum up, I look like the idiot, not you :) :) xx", "Incredibly irresponsible? Whos exactly is it hurting? He's already dead.", "lol why is this being pasted word for word by multiple people", "The problem with glorifying AS is that he was also responsible for a lot of the early permissiveness that reddit was notorious for. Stuff like r/jailbait and r/creepshots spawned from this early attitude of just letting reddit evolve on it's own.\n\nReddit as a whole likes to be hypercritical of this time while still elevating this man to his pedestal and you can't really have it both ways.", "He died for us. The real Jesus.", "Fuck it. Aaron Swartz didn’t kill himself.", "He should be celebrated as a hero.\n\nUnjust laws shouldn't be applied.\n\n>but he did break the law.\n\nSo did Jews by being Jewish, yet I don't see anyone making excuses for Nazi Germany. In fact, we invaded the country, overthrew its government and sentenced Nazi criminals to death.\n\nFuck off with your American apologism. An evil country with evil laws should be condemned. A hero shouldn't be criticized for breaking unjust laws.", "Why should China face any condemnation? Because it resists the other imperialist shitholes and maintains its independence and freedom? LOL\n\nI agree with all the other imperialist shitholes having to be blamed (and the currently fascist puppet dictator led Brazil, unfortunately, although we can blame the US for that).\n\nHowever, that's just whataboutism: No country's crimes come even close to the disproportionate evil the US is guilty of.", "> a website that proclaims to be a bastion of the liberal left of the internet\n\nuhhhhh what?", "Considering his age at the time - he was on the ball.", "You're right 9 day old account person. China has done no wrong.", "lol the late 2000s was not the Wild West of the internet, at all.\n\nEverything he's saying in this interview, everyone already knew about for several years.", "I was so intelligent with drugs back in the day.", "You probably shouldn't be 100% sure of something that has very little evidence in its favor...\n\nSatoshi was likely British and an experienced cryptographic researcher. Swartz was neither", "Carmen Ortiz killed Aaron Swartz to burnish her credentials to run for Massachusetts governership. I'll never forgive that cunt.", "He meant a website that is an echo chamber for mods, bots, and shills to influence public opinion and that is disproportionately populated by otherwise useless tools for authoritarians, corporate interests, and foreign interests.\n\nedit: Maybe, I'm just guessing.", "Lol, authoritarian left.", "Oh... Right.... Yeah.... Ok", "Got 'em!", "What an unwittingly perfect response.", "I take it you'd be chaotic good. You strike me as the type.\n\nIf I wake up tomorrow and shoot someone evil, you don't get to decide that I don't get to be prosecuted. If you decide killing someone should be okay if the person is evil, then if anything, you change the laws to make it legal (and good luck with that btw). Swartz didn't kill anyone evil of course, but he did commit crimes, regardless of whether or not you think those laws are just.\n\nYou're right, the law isn't always what's moral good, but I promise if anyone else had done what he had done, he'd be a common criminal. Aaron Swartz did it, and you look to him as a hero who was just to do it. You just don't care to admit it, perhaps not even to yourself.\n\nYou don't think he should have punished for stealing sensitive info? I suppose you're just as passionate about defending every hacker in Russia or China actively attempting to steal information from your government's computers, are you? Oh you're not? Of course you're not. You're just a hypocrite.", "Compared to now, it definitely is. 2008 reddit had atheism as a default, let you buy gun parts, and showed people dying, all on the same page. If it didn't break U.S. law, it was allowed. The site is far different today.", "Aaron Swartz was a really interesting, bright young guy who was punished for trying to help people and introduce some fairness into the world. Everyone involved in trying to convict him for the Jstore stuff should be publicly shamed and shunned from proper society.", "https://youtu.be/0SQ-TJKPPIg", "There was a time (pre 2013 or 2014) when exactly this was different. Look https://youtu.be/0SQ-TJKPPIg\n\nAnd in between all these problems, Reddit is an absolutely gem for all hobbyists. The are so many small subs for every niche hobby, where you can communicate with other nerds about stuff nobody in your real life is interested in. There is generally a good culture, friendliness and so much knowledge sharing going on, you can’t find that anywhere else. All my hobbies are covered here. If I have a question, many specialists are eager to help if you are able to ask nicely. And if you share some knowledge, pictures, experiences, they embrace even newbies with open arms. ❤️", "Funny how I don't find anything when I search for \"spez\"", "That should be required viewing for someone to get a Reddit account.", "Debatable. And these are more nuances, not day one shit. \n\n>\tThe recognized practice is to put a period at the end of the abbreviation if it contains the first few letters of the original word (like Prof., Col., Adv. etc), and not to put the period if the abbreviation contains the first and last letters of the original word (like Mr, Dr, Fr, Lt etc) and so it is vs (versus).\n\n>most people speak English as their second language\n\nCan I get a source on that? On Reddit though, not just in general? Because this is an English centric site, we’re speaking on a biased forum.", "It is what it is. How you write is how you think. Sloppily and without refine.", "Turn back, all who enter this thread. It’s dark and scary placed", "Hey, I'm glad you asked! I don't really have time right now to get too deep into it, but I can comment on *your* mental state if you like. I diagnose you as being a salty ass bitch.", "Just like your logic", "But didn't he advocate for a wide open unfiltered internet? That libertarian view of the internet is exactly why qanon and other fringe conspiracies now take over facebook and youtube and have made their way into the mainstream", "Sure bud. Whatever helps you sleep.", "/r/Atheism back then openly criticized more than just Christianity and Judaism though.", "Good talk.", "Do you have any examples? I've been to major subs, including this one, and have never seen Reddit proclaiming to be a bastion of liberal left.", "It's hard to watch this interview in hindsight. An open, democratic, and unfiltered internet sounds great, but as you said misinformation is shared widely to the point where it seems we live in a post-truth society. \n\nWhen Swartz talks about collaborative filtering, where people are matched up with other people with like minded interests and views, he speaks about it as a tool to find quality content in an ocean of voices. I just see echo chambers where people's worldviews are never challenged. When he talks about funding sites for niche views, like a politics website getting funding from politicians themselves, I just see future outlets for propaganda. \n\nMaybe I'm viewing his answers too cynically, but I think social media and decentralized news outlets has had a terrible effect on society. Cream does not rise to the top, it's buried under a mountain of BS.", "Also: fake news, extremism, state-sponsored propaganda, and the rise of the alt right. Aaron was firmly in the bottom left quadrant of the political compass. I imagine he'd feel disillusioned with how things turned out. The internet has become more centralized and \"blog\" is a dying word. People copy and paste the same image macros across the same 5 massive social media sites. Then there's all the shit about Facebook.", "> HE BUILT REDDIT\n\nExcept he didn't", "Exactly, he wasn’t a threat to anything. “The government” didn’t give a shit about him. He was a mentally ill kid who made some stupid decisions, stop romanticizing him weirdo.", "internet's own boy", "they were cringe though. i member faces of atheism. everyone back then was a dawkins/hitchens self parody", "Reddit users do their best to exaggerate, or even insert, Aaron into reddit history. I see a lot of \"this is not what Aaron wanted when he started reddit!\" type of posts.\n\nIn reality, reddit was started by Huffman and Ohanian in their dorm room. A few years later when it started getting big, their investor, Paul Graham, insisted that they merge with Aaron's company so that he can bring his coding expertise. About a year later, reddit got a lot bigger and was sold to Conde Nast which pissed off Swarz who wanted to stay a little indie company that had free reign. Instead of resigning, he just stopped showing up to work and they dropped him. \n\nSo he was a part of reddit's history and played a major role, but still just a small part.", "He did not foresee how the very system he was championing would lead to bubbles of radicalization.", "Sorry for the downvotes. Aaron Schwartz killed himself.", "You know you are old when you remember PG giving out tshirts saying \"I built some thing someone wanted\"", "Agreed.", "I listed potential threat and that warrants an \"exactly\". You're going to have to expand on that sir.\n\nStop dismissing all his work, weirdo.", "“His work”\n\nLol", ">“His work”Lol\n\nlol", ">You're right 9 day old account person. China has done no wrong.\n\n\nI love how every single person with negative views about China anywhere on the internet writes trash comments like this.\n\nAbsolutely pathetic, every single one of them without exceptions.\n\n\nGlad to see that every single person opposing China and thinking negatively about the country is totally devoid of intelligence, reason and arguments.", "There's nothing \"chaotic\" about what I said.\n\n>If I wake up tomorrow and shoot someone evil, you don't get to decide that I don't get to be prosecuted. \n\nIt's irrelevant what I, personally, do.\n\nHuman society must extinguish the United States regime and its evil. Its unjust laws shouldn't be followed.\n\n>If you decide killing someone should be okay if the person is evil, then if anything, you change the laws to make it legal (and good luck with that btw).\n\nAgain, we are talking about the United States - a fascist terror regime. \n\nYou are making excuses for the US regime. \n\nThat makes you an apologist for evil and the equivalent of someone making excuses for Nazi Germany.\n\nThe fact that you don't see this and it needs to be explained to you using examples you probably will understand is highly problematic.\n\n>Swartz didn't kill anyone evil of course, but he did commit crimes, regardless of whether or not you think those laws are just.\n\nBut the question whether Swartz was good or not is the only thing that matters.\n\nAnd the US should be condemned and fought against for applying unjust laws against a good person.\n\n>You're right, the law isn't always what's moral good, but I promise if anyone else had done what he had done, he'd be a common criminal. Aaron Swartz did it, and you look to him as a hero who was just to do it. You just don't care to admit it, perhaps not even to yourself.\n\nYes. Anyone undermining the US is a good person. Just like anyone undermining Nazi Germany is a good person.\n\n>You don't think he should have punished for stealing sensitive info? \n\nYes.\n\n>I suppose you're just as passionate about defending every hacker in Russia or China actively attempting to steal information from your government's computers, are you?\n\nRussia, probably.\n\nChina? No. China is a good country that represents freedom, democracy and peace. It's our biggest hope for overcoming capitalism. Harming China would only benefit the US.\n\nI'm not partial to Russia but harming Russia benefits the US, too. I think it's morally right to critically support Russia.\n\nThe question is: What does an individuals' actions contribute to human society? Are they net beneficial or net harmful to human society? Based on that, those people should be supported or opposed. \n\n>Oh you're not? Of course you're not. You're just a hypocrite.\n\nWhat do you believe to be hypocritical about anything I said? lol\n\nWe are literally facing the greatest evil on earth - the US war criminal, capitalist regime terrorizing this planet and actively undermining/holding back global peace and human progress - and you are making excuses for it.\n\nBeing hypocritical would mean supporting a different war criminal, capitalist regime terrorizing this planet and actively undermining/holding back global peace and human progress.", ">It's irrelevant what I, personally, do.Human society must extinguish the United States regime and its evil. Its unjust laws shouldn't be followed.\n\nFortunately, it is also irrelevant what you, personally, think as well. Human society has established that what Aaron Swartz did is a crime, at least in the USA. Also killing in the USA is a crime. Should we no longer punish people who kill because they're unjust? No? Okay, so who or what is the decider for what is just and what is unjust? You?\n\nYou're confusing personal sense of morality with law. People don't get to just individually decide which laws should be followed and which shouldn't. You may think you're in the right in this case, but I can show you a schizophrenic that thinks it is morally correct that people wear their insides on their outsides.\n\n​\n\n>Again, we are talking about the United States - a fascist terror regime. \n> \n>You are making excuses for the US regime.\n\nIf by \"excuses\" you mean to say following the law to the letter.. Sure? Just because you disagree with a particular law doesn't mean you get to completely ignore because what you feel the person is doing it for is a noble cause. If you can figure out a way to put that into writing, then good luck. Otherwise, committing crimes gets you jailed. That's not making an \"excuse for evil USA regime\" that's literally what happens in every country across the world in varying degrees. The countries which do not punish those who break laws are lawless chaotic countries where government officials take bribes in order to do literally anything their job requires them to do.\n\n>Yes. Anyone undermining the US is a good person. Just like anyone undermining Nazi Germany is a good person.\n\nYou know the Jews that were prosecuted were German as well. What you're saying is that those Jews were rightly undermined because they were German during the Holocaust? What about the Americans who agree with you that Aaron Swartz was wrongly persecuted? Surely you don't mean to say this.. If you're going to make these broad sweeping and obviously false statements, then there is nothing more to discuss here. It'd be like playing chess with a pigeon.\n\n>I'm not partial to Russia but harming Russia benefits the US, too. I think it's morally right to critically support Russia.\n\nYikes, I really am playing chess with a pigeon.. So unequivocally, anything that hurts USA is good? What if I sold you a T-shirt where it is written \"USA bad\", would you buy it? I charge $5000 per T-shirt, cash only, thanks.\n\nDon't uphold a position that makes you incredibly easy to manipulate. That's not an argument, just free life advice.\n\n>The question is: What does an individuals' actions contribute to human society? Are they net beneficial or net harmful to human society? Based on that, those people should be supported or opposed.\n\nWho decides whether or not an individual's actions are beneficial or net harmful to human society? Ideologically, what you say sounds ideal, but lets put it into practice. Suppose I have strong suspicions that some guy at work is a pedophile. If I follow your reasoning, killing such a person would benefit society and therefore I should be supported. Now suppose I go through with it, and it turns out he wasn't a pedophile, I was just wrong.. Now is that a net gain or a net loss for society? Maybe I was wrong, but lets say a jury of peers decides a person is a pedophile and must therefore die. That jury of peers can still be wrong.. The difference only being that nobody would be the wiser, everyone would just automatically assume he was a pedophile.\n\nYou can't have some arbitrary \"good vs evil\" morality system because that's subjective. What one person considers good is what another considers evil. What you can say is that if a person kills another person out of manslaughter, it is a punishable crime. If a person steals from a jewelers, it is a punishable crime. If a person jaywalks, it is a punishable crime.\n\nThe person jaywalking could be Aaron Swartz.. but if the laws are in place to punish him for doing it, then it must happen. If you disagree with this, then you make it so that jaywalking is legal for everyone. What you do not do is give Aaron Swartz a free pass because you think he's gee golly such a great dude.\n\nIn conclusion, if you want to continue to insist you're right and you don't think I've made any valid points, then fuck me, I've just lost my time and yours. I'm still hoping against all odds that your views are not actually this deranged and you've been making hyperboles... I don't argue that it is wrong to hate Americans, but for you to hate literally all Americans because some judge somewhere decided that Aaron Swartz committed a crime that he actually committed, it is provably and demonstrably wrong and frankly makes you out to be some sort of hate-monger.", "> Human society has established that what Aaron Swartz did is a crime, at least in the USA. \n\nNo. Human society has done no such thing.\n\nFascist, anti-democratic American leaders have dictated it to oppress people like Aaron Swartz. American people are kept ignorant about these kind of misdeeds and are being distracted and brainwashed by propaganda.\n\nJust as has happened to Nazi Germany, the US needs to be fought and overcome.\n\nYou keep making excuses for a fascist terror regime.\n\nRemember, you are the modern equivalent of a Nazi German justifying the industrial mass murder of Jews and socialists. You think murdering Jews is okay because the law says so. You think someone being Jewish justifies that person being killed because being Jewish is against the law. You aren't getting it, are you?\n\n>Who decides whether or not an individual's actions are beneficial or net harmful to human society? \n\nWho decided whether the Holocaust was beneficial or harmful to human society?\n\n>If by \"excuses\" you mean to say following the law to the letter.. Sure? \n\nKilling Jews means following the law.\n\nYou are arguing that something should be tolerated because it's the law.\n\nYou are a fascist.\n\nSeriously, how many more times does it need to be explained to you before you understand this?\n\n\n>Yikes, I really am playing chess with a pigeon.. So unequivocally, anything that hurts USA is good? What if I sold you a T-shirt where it is written \"USA bad\", would you buy it? I charge $5000 per T-shirt, cash only, thanks.\n\nWhy would I do a pointless thing like buying a t-shirt? How does buying a teacher in USD harm the US?\n\nI really am playing chess with a pigeon.\n\nYes, you should work with and support those who fight against the US. Russia is an objectively lesser evil compared to the US anyway.\n\n>That's not making an \"excuse for evil USA regime\" that's literally what happens in every country across the world in varying degrees. \n\nReplace Aaron Swartz and US with Jews and Germany in your comment and see how ridiculous you sound.\n\nWhat do you believe is the point of your comment. Please summarize the point you are trying to make.\n\nAre you saying that the law of the United States is just and the prosecution of Aaron Swartz should be supported? Are you saying that the death of Aaron Swartz isn't the fault of the US. Are you saying that the US shouldn't be held responsible for what happened? Are you saying people shouldn't protest and sanction the US for crimes against humanity?", ">You are a fascist.\n\nYou call me a fascist for saying laws should be followed, something I'm sure 99% of the world would agree with. So yeah, this has been a colossal waste of time. \n\nHonestly, I hope you were trolling, because at least you got something out of this. \n\n>I really am playing chess with a pigeon.\n\nSays the guy who just shat on the chess board pieces and regurgitated the same talking points. Don't waste your time on a reply. I won't read it.", ">You call me a fascist for saying laws should be followed\n\nThat is correct.\n\nAlthough - as a fascist in denial - you obviously are missing the key part: I am calling you a fascist *for saying that fascist laws* should be followed.\n\nYou are either of exceptionally low intelligence too stupid to understand the difference between \"using a knife\" and \"stabbing people\" or you are a literal fascist psychopath who tries to make excuses for the US, i.e. the single most evil and destructive regime on earth terrorizing the entire planet and holding us back as a species.\n\n\n\n\n\n>something I'm sure 99% of the world would agree with\n\nPlease show me that 99% of the world agrees with the laws of Nazi Germany having to be followed.\n\nSpoiler: You are obviously wrong. Nobody - except for literal Nazis - agrees with you.\n\n> So yeah, this has been a colossal waste of time. \n\nConsidering that you keep arguing after it has been repeatedly explained to you why exactly you are wrong - without you consistently ignoring all of the key arguments against you - it has been a colossal waste of time, indeed.\n\nAs always, when you try to argue with fascists. Fascists only understand the language of violence.\n\n>Honestly, I hope you were trolling, because at least you got something out of this. \n\nNo. I am not trolling. It's sad that you try and deflect the arguments against you with personal attacks, though.\n\n>Says the guy who just shat on the chess board pieces and regurgitated the same talking points. \n\nNope. Says the guy who explained to you very clearly that and why you are wrong and provided overwhelming arguments against you. You, meanwhile, are currently shitting on the board without addressing any of the arguments against you and keep insisting on your ridiculous points that have already been debunked.\n\nYou couldn't answer even basic questions because you are totally brainwashed.\n\nI think, throughout history, people who have argued that \"something should be tolerated because it's the law\" have consistently acknowledged to be the single most evil people possible and equivalent to the people making those laws and those pulling the trigger. Congratulations for joining the ranks of \"pure evil\", I guess.\n\n>Don't waste your time on a reply. I won't read it.\n\nThanks for confirming your unreasonable attitude. Stereotypical American fascism on full display.", "Lmao get a life 🤣" ]
124
videos
Aaron Swartz describing the innovation of the internet in 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BqfgNl2JJw
/r/videos/comments/rmo8tj/madness_of_make_believe_martial_arts/
[ "I think Aikido is just jujitsu with the philosophy of disabling the opponent with the least amount of harm done.", "Judo if all it wanted to do was break wrists and other small joints. \n\n\nThe Chicago Dojo wars bit was pretty crazy. Apparently there was some guy dynamiting and running into other Dojos to fight their masters in the 70s.", "The story of George Dillman is so sad to me. He was such a great instructor, but then I remember hearing about him putting on clinics for no touch. I had since moved on with my life, not having time for martial arts, but that training still sticks with me. I still know most of my forms. Its like losing a family member to dementia or Alzheimer's, they're just not... there anymore.", "Well you are kinda correct. But it only works if your opponent also tries to do least harm for you.", "Id fight ninja kim, do i need a gofundme or some shit, im an amateur and out of shape but lets go", "Serious practitioners are also somewhat aware of the bullshit. When Aikido first left Japan and found a home in America there were already clubs working to reform the style and remove most of the spiritual stuff and just focus on the fighting techniques. I read a book of one of these american reformers who actually had his own dojo in Okinawa during his time in the army and he straight up says that Aikido by itself is not a great fighting style and that he learned Karate and Judo as well, but he thought it was a good philosophy and great supplemental style that helped improve his other styles." ]
6
videos
Madness of Make Believe Martial Arts
https://youtu.be/w00UsFwn34w
/r/videos/comments/rmonkp/shock/
[ "Well now I want to know who that Kyle is", "No you don't. I wish I didn't know. He's an Australian \"shockjock\". Tremendous piece of shit.", "Ohhh, fuck that makes this so much better, that it dunks on a real life shitpile. 10/10", "This is art", "Shortly before this short film was made this happened:\n\nFrom Wikipedia: On 29 July 2009, a radio segment involved a distressed teenager who was asked to discuss her sexual history live on air, and in front of her mother. After initially sounding very uncomfortable with the questioning, the girl began crying and said she had been raped when she was 12, and that her mother was already aware of this. Sandilands replied: \"Right... is that the only experience you've had?\"[36] The stunt was cut short and co-host Jackie O was quick to apologise; however, several of the show's prominent advertisers quickly withdrew sponsorships", "Sounds about right. Recent salary cuts by an AS may exacerbate it.\n\nI did some TV in Japan - and it's hideous there. People have invested so much until they can make a living that they're too scared to pull out." ]
6
videos
Shock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVmNqVqKrh0
/r/videos/comments/rmpa34/congo_1995_pure_kafka/
[ "Me Amy. Me want green drop drink", "Stop eating my sesame CAKE.", "That’s literally the only line I can remember from this movie", "Ugly gorillas, go away!", "This movie is 95% pure trash. But, there is some fun evil, rampaging gorilla action.", "I wish all the takes of that scene were released, I love it" ]
6
videos
Congo (1995) - Pure Kafka
https://youtu.be/0VhLgEH-ahw
/r/videos/comments/rmq59a/041_subaru_falls_in_pit/
[ "Dohhh", "This is art", "Ah, true friends won’t just rush to save you, they will fuck themselves over so you don’t feel as dumb.", "Not the Suuuuuuubie", "I am going to have nightmares regarding that laugh at the end. \n\nIt is like his trap worked, and now he is going to eat his friend.", "Don't worry, they're older Subarus. The head gaskets were going to crack in the next few weeks, anyway.", "This video is gold but has also made me miss my Legacy Outback of this era too.", "thats what makes a subaru, a subaru", "[r/ContagiousLaughter](https://www.reddit.com/r/ContagiousLaughter/)" ]
9
videos
[0:41] subaru falls in pit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WvCxq1VMMq0
/r/videos/comments/rmr1o7/man_steals_firetruck_and_is_chased_by_chp_but_a/
[ "\"Oh shit he actually stopped, wtf do we do now?\"", "We took this trip to Garden Grove\n\nIt smelled like Lou-dog inside the van, oh yeah...", "\"I'm no hero\" what a good lad", "First off, props to the guy for standing there to try and save the life of someone he never met. He is also a humble man and I hope he is able to get off the streets some how and have a great life. \n\nSecond, great job by the police in not using extreme force and letting the homeless guy talk him down. Just one question. I’m not in law enforcement so there may be a reasonable answer, but why did they make him crawl that far? I understand getting him away from the truck, but they could’ve gone out and got him. Make him lie down and lock his fingers behind his head and they could’ve got to him before he had a chance to move. \n\nThat said, I’m glad to see it was resolved without anyone being hurt.", "I don't really understand what the cops had planned there. Like, he's at a full stop, and they all just scatter. I assume they blocked any exits, but he's in a firetruck, and could have just plowed through them. At no point was anyone like \"I'm going to go throw some spike strips under the truck.\" to make sure the chase ended if Richard did end up getting flattened. Was it just going to be a situation where everyone unloads their magazine if he starts driving towards a barricade? Then when they finally get him in cuffs, they have 3 guys with guns drawn just swiveling around like they're expecting an ambush, not even paying attention to the actual arrest.", "Cops could learn appropriate de-escalation techniques from the homeless. Some of the boys in blue looked sad they didn't get a chance to fight.", "The way they made that arrest.. is that like, standard or something? What the fuck, doesn't even seem logical \n \nFace down, spread hands while we aim at you with 20+ weapons, now get up and crawl a bit.. now face down again, now crawl again.. playing night and day with him. And when they eventually got on top of him, 3 of them are \"covering\" the arrest with a some questionable weaponry, wtf was that a tear-gas grenade launcher or something lol", "Having his own little tiananmen square right there.", "Especially that well trained dog.", "This seems standard procedure with american cops. It's called \"American Simon Says\" (opposed to Russian Roulette). When you fail you get killed:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8", "They were only 20 so they had to be extra cautious, what if there was a cat in the fire truck ready to attack them ?", "I contemplated that part too, and the only thing I could assume is that they were using their cars as cover to get him as close as possible on the off chance he pulled a gun?", "This is the second video I’ve seen with cops having a suspect crawl towards them. I don’t get it at all. If the suspect is face down on the ground, just go and get him. What if the suspect doesn’t crawl the 20 feet? Shoot him? Seems dumb. And also, what’s up with that dog?", "not available in my country (australia)", "Looking for an excuse to shoot somebody, like that asshole cop who murdered a man in a hallway. \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver", "**[Shooting of Daniel Shaver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver)** \n \n >On January 18, 2016, Daniel Leetin Shaver of Granbury, Texas, was fatally shot by police officer Philip Brailsford in the hallway of a La Quinta Inn & Suites hotel in Mesa, Arizona, United States. Police were responding to a report that a rifle had been pointed out of the window of Shaver's hotel room. After the shooting, the rifle, which remained in the room, was determined to be a pellet gun. Following an investigation, Brailsford was charged with second-degree murder and a lesser manslaughter charge and later found not guilty by a jury.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "> What if the suspect doesn’t crawl the 20 feet? Shoot him?\n\nYeah, I think that is the intention. Also if someone's trousers start to fall down while they are crawling, and they try and keep them up, that is grounds for shooting, especially if half of the cops are screaming for them to stop moving, and the other half screaming for them to continue. Videos like this just show US police as severely incompetent and not fit for purpose.\n\nI don't understand why the need for tens of police vehicles just to slowly follow like its a 4th of July parade or something, what's the point? Once the vehicle had stopped - make the move to approach and arrest. Sure care must be given on opening the door as weapons may be likely used (another American institute) This one homeless guy showed them up big style by de-escalating the situation, something they could learn from.", "That’s the exact video I was thinking of. It makes no sense to me. If it was me I’d want the suspect moving as little as possible, especially coming towards me. Seems like nothing but a power trip in combination with incompetence.", "Or a dog without a lead enema apparently. Can't risk having a dog within a nautical mile of the police, what if it spontaneously becomes rabid and attacks them?", "> that is grounds for shooting\n\nLiterally anything is grounds for shooting when you consider how little cops have to worry about repercussions. There's a very *slow* change, hopefully we can take care of the police problem eventually.", ">incompetence.\n\nIs it really incompetence when they go out of their way to hire the most aggressive, lazy and unintelligent people possible though? I just assume this is what they actually want, so they're technically hiring the \"right\" people.", "9-1-1 next season?", "Cops are the most insecure ass people on the planet. Need 20+ squad cars and myriad of weapons because one dude stole a truck, while at the same time an unarmed homeless man managed to get the dude to stop. Fuck cops.", "Police really don’t seem to have any idea how to handle this other than to repeatedly explain who they are, and that they’d like him to get out of the truck.", "Shut the fuck up.", "Go kiss a pig.", "I hope someone does something for that homeless guy. He saved that guys life. If he hadn't stopped, he'd have been shot in the end. US Cops still seem to think they are in the wild west where the only solution is at the end of a gun. US is the only country like that.", "Seems like they wanted him nearer the cars so there was less open distance to travel to him, incase he decided to shoot them on the way over.", "*homeless man charged with impeding traffic*", "Seriously they're like umm.. I didn't think we'd get this far.", "Lol lick the booot", "C'mon, don't be mean towards US Police, I mean if you watch the movies about police academies, one is a comedy, and another one is a mafia hut... 🤣", "The difference between how US police operates vs pretty much any other part of the western world is just so bizzare. Like, in Europe you would put a suspect in the back of the car, uncuffed and talk with them and deal with them. In this freaking video they made a person who was clearly not a threat crawl while so many people were pointing their guns at him. Why not just walk up and arrest him there? If he does anything you can still shoot him like those guys seem to be itching to do anyways. The entire situation just seems so bizzare.\n\nThen again, Americans are a lot more armed and seem quite a bit more prone to aggressive behaviour so maybe this is just a reaction to that...", "incompetent*", "Reporter to homeless man that stopped the fire truck: \"I mean, have you done something like this before?\"\n\nI cannot even think of a stupider question to ask the guy.", "At no point did someone call the fire department to get more trucks to block off the first truck? o.O", "Imagine how terrifying that is. At least half of those 20 are only ever going to touch that gun to qualify with it and are going to be jumpy as fuck. On top of that, if one of them does shoot you on accident, there is a real good chance that the rest of them are going to open up till your body quits twitching. Even better, when they does happen they just call it an oopsie and move on with life.", "[They were probably hoping for his pants to fall down and him to reach to pull them up so they could execute him.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/judge-releases-video-of-police-shooting-of-daniel-shaver-after-officer-acquitted/2017/12/08/3e715e7a-dc3e-11e7-a241-0848315642d0_video.html)", "\"The power of Christ compels you!\"", "pretty sure the police band convo went something like:\n\nShoot?\n\nNO!\n\nShoot now?\n\nNo!\n\nShoot now?\n\nno!\n\nShoot now pwetty pwease with a cherry on top?\n\n^(...no.)", "Didn't wanna be in the open for sure and possibly unsure if anyone else was in the truck?", "In Europe the odds that the person arrested has a gun are a LOT lower than in the US. The police base all their training as if any person they interact with could be armed and ready to use their gun. It adds a ton of tension, but there are videos out there when police go up to a vehicle in a traffic stop and the driver comes out firing. These videos are shown time and time again to new officers so they understand the danger, but that can be a fine line.\n\nIn a nation when everyone could be armed, the police take account and act defensively.", "Yeah I got strong flashbacks to that video... I feel like I've seen the U.S. police murder so many people, I have trauma from it.", "https://i.imgur.com/UIlFmZi.png", "If I'm ever in a situation like this, in which I'll never be, I will just put my hands up in the air announce that I'm surrendering and unarmed. I'm not going to crawl or laydown in the street willingly. Maybe they'll jump on me and assault me. Maybe they'll shoot me but that's all on them. I'll try to be arrested with what little dignity I have left.", "A firetruck is very expensive, they were just just going to follow and wait for him to run out of gas.\n\nIf it was someone elses car they would probably total it, but city property must be protected.", "> The way they made that arrest.. is that like, standard or something?\n\nYes? This is how most \"dangerous\" situation arrest would go in the US similar in most countries. The only thing even slightly questionable here was how far they made him crawl but I understand why they wanted him in an open area. All that extra weapondry is from before when they had no idea how this chase and potential standoff was gonna go", "> In this freaking video they made a person who was clearly not a threat\n\nThe dude just stole a firetruck and had driven the police around in a big chase, you and the cops have no way of knowing if this person is a huge threat or not. Even if he's acting calm in the moment this isn't likely to be the most stable person and it's always better to be safe than sorry in this situation. \n\n>Then again, Americans... seem quite a bit more prone to aggressive behaviour\n\nI guarantee you they aren't, suck your own dick harder Euro", "Your ignorance is palpable. Makes you a fine tool.", "I assume they made him crawl so that he was in the most open area possible away from the truck. If they don't crawl you would have to escalate into more forceful means, though maybe not right to shooting. The dog is there in case the dude gets up and runs, it's an alternative to shooting or foot chasing.", ">wtf was that a tear-gas grenade launcher or something lol\n\n[It's a 40mm less-lethal launcher](https://youtu.be/ZUx8CkKOjH0?t=157) \n\nHere's the [Santa Ana PD's procedures guidelines](https://www.santa-ana.org/sites/default/files/PD%20Dept%20Policies/Dept%20Procedures/3004.pdf) that goes over how/when to use them, although specific procedures may vary by department and state", "> Some of the boys in blue looked sad they didn't get a chance to fight.\n\nWhich ones, specifically? Seems like everyone was fairly neutral and professional to me.", "> Also if someone's trousers start to fall down while they are crawling, and they try and keep them up, that is grounds for shooting\n\nya because nothing looks more like reaching for a gun than quickly reaching for the waist of your pants. if the cops don't shoot you in this situation they aren't doing their job of protecting other officers correctly.", "This ain't no funky reggae party", "Homeless man does a better job at de-escalation than the cops with guns. Wow", "This makes me so sad.", "They were obviously dealing with someone mentally unwell. Who steals a firetruck? And he was slowly creeping down the street, not really trying to get away. I mean, what do you do?\n\nSpike strips aren't going to stop that truck. They only work if the vehicle is going fast or if it can help them pit-maneuver, which isn't really an option with a firetruck. The guy wasn't an immediate threat so they best thing they could do is not escalate the situation and follow him until he ran out of gas. The streets were clear so they probably had the roads blocked from traffic to give him a path. \n\nThen you have a man standing in front of the truck. Basically all they can do is talk over the speaker to get him out (which is what they did.) You don't want to panic the driver by approaching, he could try to flee and kill the homeless guy. \n\nEveryone is trying so hard to make it seem like the cops were trying to kill the guy. But this video is 100% the way it should have been handled. There's something wrong with the driver and there's no current threat. So there's no escalation. Just follow until it runs out of gas or he gives up.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ooa7wOKHhg", "Ever been to Brazil? Or better yet, have you ever even been to the U.S.? Maybe travel around for a decade so you could really see enough for yourself before echoing what you hear on agenda driven media outlets.", "It's honestly crazy to me how bad that protocol of \"crawl towards us\" is. I can't remember the name of the victim, but several years ago SWAT gunned someone down in their hotel room because they kept having him crawl towards him, and when his pants fell down he went to lift them up and they just opened fire because his hands moved. \n\nIf I'm ever in the position where I have police aiming guns at me and giving me orders to do yoga poses or some shit, I'm just going to lay still face down on the ground and not move at all. At least that way if I'm killed, no one can say \"but your honour, his hands moved and we thought he was reaching for a gun\".", "I can. It is, “Are you a religious man?”. WTF does that have to do with anything. I hate how reporters often dig for the religious angle to pump the tag line for their story. The tag line “Homeless man stops runaway fire truck” is not compelling enough. He was wanting to make it “Homeless man says Jesus gave him the courage to stop runaway firetruck.”", "Homeless man: \"I'm not a hero\"\n\nReporter a few moments later: \"Do you think you're a hero?\"", "You do know this makes no sense right, the cops when given the chance don't block the truck front, back or sides as a matter of fact they keep moving out of the trucks way so what really gives here?\n\nN. Shadows", "Was that the cops on the loudspeaker saying, “Get out of the way, get out of the way?” It’s like they were saying, “Get out of the way so we can continue this chase to the point where we can find an excuse to go all Inspector Callahan on his ass.”\nI mean, what were they chasing him for if not for the purposes of finding a way to stop him. The homeless man stopped him.", "Too many idiots in this thread.", "> I guarantee you they aren't, suck your own dick harder Euro\n\nKinda ironic given the sentence you just replied to :D", "Poor guy looks so worn out.", "While brave, it was also extremely stupid, and only by dumb luck that the criminal only wanted a joyride and wasn't looking to put murder/vehicular manslaughter on his list of charges.", "Not the kind of \"aggressive\" we're talking about here.", "When life imitates GTA", "\"we took this trip to garden groove, smells like lou dog inside the van\"", "He doesn't believe in God or the Devil.", "maybe they thought the truck was a Transformer", "Yes, let's create a million dollar blockade at the expense of taxpayers.", "I mean you’re not wrong. Most of those guys seemed geeked to have their special big boy guns out.", "Seriously that video was like 5 minutes longer than it should've been. No wanted to take the initiative besides Richard.", "It's like American cops love to cosplay as the military but they don't benefit from any military-style training. A group of soldiers would've quickly split up and aimed at the suspect from different angles while one or two soldiers walked up and arrested him on the spot. But cops seemed to be trained to just stand in a line and bark arbitrary orders like a bunch of pussies.", "This is a situation where using the MRAP makes sense. Too heavy for a car to block but not an MRAP. Let’s save that for home invasions.\n\n[MRAP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP)", "Pay 5 dollars at-the-door", "I don't know anything about this situation but I can assume they didn't know who else could be in the firetruck.\n\nJudging how the other officers are protecting the firetruck side from the arresting officers this is most likely the case. They want the suspect to crawl toward them so they are at a safe distance away from the firetruck.\n\nWithout knowing any motive (and you can't assume it for safety reasons), the truck could be rigged to bomb or have more suspects that are potentially dangerous.\n\nA K9 unit is almost always taken on police chases. They are an invaluable asset against people who either run, take hostages, or threaten to kill themselves (yes a dog bite is gnarly, but it's better than death). The goal for a K9 is to prevent other harmful things from happening. People who are running from the police are extremely unpredictable and anything that helps prevent them from hurting others or themselves is important to have available.", "I love how that one pussy had to walk the dog over to be right in the guys face after he was already cuffed, had 3 guys standing over him, and maybe 10 other officers with weapons pointed at him. \n\nIt is seriously some sick shit, they were all praying the guy would make the slightest mistake so they could fuck him up.", "you guys are correct in that officers are terrible at deescalating situations. officers should stand in front of feeling vehicles from now on.", "Pretty stupid to try and stop the truck, but he probably has nothing left in life to lose.", "Litterers are assholes, this is a vile piece of shit.", "Stop. In the name of the law.", "Defund the homeless", "WTF??? Are you tripping or something? WTF has travel to do with wanting a homeless guy to have help? Jeez man, stop taking those drugs before they fry your brain, you're clearly non compes mentes.", "Thousand yard stare. I wonder if he is autistic and always wanted to drive a fire truck. Like that dude who drove the subway car and made all of the stops.", "Shoot first, never worry about asking questions later.\n\nDon't be an apologists, they don't need your help.", "I'm sorry. Did you not see the rest of their comment? Claiming the US is the only place it happens. You know, the part I was obviously addressing.", "WTF has that to do with helping a homeless guy which was the subject of my original post whic you seem incapable of understanding.", "I think you have too many police, America.", "The homeless man should be police👏, Why are these cops so cowardly?", "I'm wondering if it has to do with occupying thier hands? Like in case they have a hidden weapon it might be harder for them to draw if they are crawling and not standing..", "Is making the man crawl like a dog 100% how it should of been handled? Serious question. I just don’t see how that’s practical or safe or in anyway justified.", "Those are nice shoes for a homeless dude.\n\nYou sure he is homeless? Or just not at home at the time this was recorded?", "Maybe, but if they’re already face down on the ground maybe have them place their hands outstretched in front of them, palms down, that way any movement for a weapon will be big and noticeable, giving the officers time to react. Seems better than having them moving on their own and towards you. But idk, I’m not an expert in the field. Just seems like a dumb way to do it", "Mike Ermatraut has seen better days...", "fucking lol", "[Christ, everyone knows that feeling of just trying to make a right fucking turn and would it kill the guy in front of you to scoot up a fucking foot or two? There's plenty of space for you to move up by! I don't want to have to wait for a green light just to make a right turn!](https://youtu.be/WvCxq1VMMq0?t=322)", "\"oh sure, I'm always stopping stolen firetrucks, it's sort of my thing. I'm pretty much a firetruck whisperer\"", "It's because tactical training is done usually for a week in the academy and then once a year for 8 hours, if you're a patrol cop. If you're SWAT, you train together and work together so you're much more comfortable in communicating what you're doing." ]
102
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Man steals firetruck and is chased by CHP but a homeless man comes to the rescue
https://youtu.be/rnFOWvAAapU
/r/videos/comments/rmrph1/redneck_boomer_tries_to_steal_from_a_guy_gets/
[ "Ah yes, I saw the video when it got posted a few hours ago.", "Ok, you have money so dont need the $1400 but he should have at least told him \"I tell you what. You load everything you stole in the back of my truck so these detectives don't have to then we call it even.\" Ye, he's old, but he did it once already when he stole the stuff. As it stands, there is zero punishment. Who knows. Maybe his wife is ok with his stealing.", "Your welcome.", "Giving the money back was a class act. Did more to get even than getting mad ever would. Mad respect ✊", "Wow at the end.... A $300,000 reward to find a $20,000 skid loader. Dude is great", "This is a pretty wild take. I mean… you really respect *that* admission of guilt? \n\nThe thief said he was inebriated and just did it on the spur of the moment— but he had enough forethought to take off his plates beforehand. Then he said he thought the property was abandoned… but who rigs security cameras up on abandoned property? And why would he spray paint them if he thought that? \n\nAlso— he totally had the option to go to court. He could have refused to give the property back willingly and pay for the cameras. At that point, they would have hauled him to jail and the courts could sort it all out. He *chose* the easier (and, frankly, much more sensible) option.", "*You’re", "Yeah plus it made the guy feel like even more of a piece of shit when the dude he stole from was being nice to him about it. You could see it in his face", "That is strange, since r/videos is pretty careful about reposts. Did you see it here, or in a different sub?", "- spray painted the guy's cameras\n- took his plates off\n- denied everything to the police\n- said they had no pictures or plates\n- said they'd need a warrant\n- admitted guilt after they had proof and a warrant\n\nYeah...no dude. No respect required here. People don't just randomly go and steal 20 expensive items from a neighbour's property at the age of 60 for the first time on a whim. This guy is obviously a career criminal. He knew to look for the cameras, took an absolute mountain of gear and then went way out of his way to try and get out of it. \n\n The guy is a dropkick who got busted with both hands and feet in the cookie jar. Once they exposed him his last ditch attempt was to minimise the damage and save face, that's all. You can actually see how excited he is by the prospect of getting out of this without a criminal conviction.", "It's was also posted without such a hateful title.\n\nWhy are you like this?", "I hate that he gave the money back. Give it to charity, not to these scumbags", "And a thief never lies.. what a douche. Even played the victim card blaming the medication and the alcohol that made him do it. How much other stuff has he previously stolen ? Whistlin’ Diesel must have considered that the shaming from social media will follow the thief as punishment enough.", "Stealing from neighbors is one of the lowest form of thievery.\n\nHow much you wanna bet this POS is everything he complains about in others.", "If you posted one saying \"ghetto thug\" in the title, what would people's reactions be?\n\nIt's intended to be hateful, and you know it.", "kinda bs that they just let him go. like he tried to lie about it and he's a flat out thief. should be in prison. why do you even need to have the victim want to charge him. fuck that guy.", "He gave it to his wive not this POS.\n\nShe is probably a victim too and taking the money would also hurt her.", "I live in the city and have family a few hours away in the mountains on a farm that have to deal with shit like this. I had to get up and walk around when the theif post hoc started coming up with reasons.", "On the youtube comments someone mentioned it was a *power* play. \n\nI agree with that assessment. That man is a lifetime thief and his wife turns a blind eye until he's caught. Then she's all innocence. I've lived in the country and those people aren't any more or less honest than anyone living in a suburb or a city. Scumbags are scumbags.\n\nSince he gave the money back, he put the social onus on both of them that they are assholes and he is a fair person.\n\nSince he *also* posted the video with all his reactions and opinions, and since probably not just the thief but the rest of their neighbors are also aware of his channel, it's a clear warning to the other local thieves not to mess with him. He was nice once, but he doesn't fuck around.\n\nNot to mention the $300,000 reward for a $20,000 piece of machinery. \n\nYes, he has money, but no, you can't just help yourself to it.", "Sometimes it's hard to punish people when you're a nice person. And sometimes, killing with kindness and making them feel guilt is a lot worse than punishing them and making them angry. I think this guy will take a long hard look at himself.", "What the fuck. No charges, no reparations, no hard feelings.\n\nGet caught stealing and no consequences at all.\n\nWhite privilege in action right there.", "No he won't", "So you think that this particular person would have reacted differently if the perpetrator was not white? You are calling the YouTuber racist you realize….", "He didn’t admit it…he lied until he couldn’t lie anymore.", "Acting like he just saw the door open and looked around..... he fucking sprayed the cameras? How much more pre-meditated can you get?", "When the thief starts making excuses I almost turned the video off", "more like old person privilege", "Some people see racism everywhere, it's their whole identity.", "\"Reverse sponsorship\". HILARIOUS!", "People must be real suckers for that bullshit \"Oh gawrsh im just god loving good natured country folk who don't mean no harm now please gimme a break it was the pills\"\n\nLike man fuck off, loading all that shit into your truck wasn't a brief lapse of judgement.", "White privilege got a search warrant on that guy's house in 30 minutes. If anything, it's the Youtuber benefitting from white privilege for getting the police to respond so quickly.", "is she a victim though? Who has that much cash lying around who hasn't been enjoying the benefits of being married to a thief?", " So constructive.", "It’s funny how that old guy thought he was doing the “good old boy white guy talk” with the young guy, but there was no mutual camaraderie because now his face is plastered all over the Internet. “Oh the times they are a changin’!” I love it.", "You think the dude funded his property and multiple buildings off of a life of crime?\n\nThe more likely event is that he decided to do some scumbag shit for whatever reason, not that hes a lifelong criminal living good off of his misdeeds.", "Some people just like cash.", "I was so distracted by this dude never wearing a seatbelt", "his \"can you believe I'd even do something like that?!\" attitude makes my blood boil. He's convinced he's a good man. He'd seen this guys videos and was jealous of his wealth and success and figured he deserved a piece of it because of some cruel injustice he completely imagined. Guaranteed trump voter.", "None of these people have the strong \"hillbilly\" Appalachian accent, to my ear (native Carolinian). The sheriffs' insignia indicates they're in Tennessee though. Big chunk of Tennessee is in the mountains but the terrain here looks flatter to me.", "look at the huge property this man has, 3 cars, huge houses and garages, i think he is doing fine and doesn't need to steal. Which makes him an even worse person, especially stealing from your neighbors. It could be jealousy or purposely trying to hurt his neighbors", "I had to skip over it. Couldn't watch it.", "It really wasn't.", "he's now a famous piece of shit. I'd call that punishment.", "I love this guy. His Toyota Hilux videos are hilarious.", "Yeah he’s gonna be living in this embarrassing hell for the rest of his life. I’d be surprised if his wife stuck arohnd tbh", "It's Whistlindeisel. He has a fairly large YouTube channel.", "i'm not suggesting he has a successful crime empire, but you shave a little here and there and it adds up. If he saves a hundred bucks a month by stealing gas or tools or whatever you like that's a hundred bucks she can use for something else. And what's more he knew this guy was famous and may have planned to sell that shit to collectors. Who knows how regularly he's doing exactly the same thing? Ask any tradesman and they'll tell you they've had tools stolen from their trucks, and it's by guys like this who either want free tools or sell them for easy money. There's no way this is the first time he's done anything like it.", "Respect? He flat out denied it until there was no possible way he could deny it anymore. He’s a career manipulator, trying to play the “good ole boy” card with the victim (who sees right through it). The only regret he has is that he was caught. \n\nPeople make mistakes. But most people don’t premeditate crime. Dude put a mask on his face. Removed his license plate. Spray painted the cameras. Also, admitted to knowing the victims YouTube channel, and stealing a box of branded T-Shirts he admitted to seeing before grabbing them. These are things most people don’t do.\n\nHe’s a scumbag. Should be jail. The value of items he took and destroyed puts it into felony category. He’s extremely lucky the victim is just a nice guy and felt bad for his wife (who is either in on it, or a victim herself, can’t really tell just from this video). He’s YouTube infamous now, but he deserves what he got. He should have gotten more.", "Shame on that old man. This isn’t his first time stealing, just his first time getting caught. Sick. Hard to watch. Suddenly love this video blogger, though. Sweet boy.", "And, 100% this POS is the person you hear raging about all the people and groups who are ruining this country right now, and going on to make a bunch of ignorant remarks about immigrants, leftists and every other hot button word, while at the same time stealing from his neighbors. Strange society we've been born into.", "Isn't this a repost?", "I'm not from America?", "> why do you even need to have the victim want to charge him\n\nYou absolutely don't. Cops can proceed against victim's wishes even. And have many times. \n\nSource: I'm a criminal defense attorney.\n\nMy guess is, cops didn't want to charge him.", "How does he afford all this stuff?", "yea... which is what's fucked up. the guy is a thief, he's going to victimize someone else. i mean ffs he went and spray painted cameras took the plate off his vehicle. he's probably stolen from tons of other people in the past and never been caught.", "He said he painted the cameras after. He's not the sharpest tool in the shed", "Should’ve thrown his ass in jail. Clearly the guy is a thief and just tries to get out of it with sympathy since he got caught. I grew up in a place like that. They don’t learn their lesson", "Why did he give the money back to the thief?", "[https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlxapx/guy\\_catches\\_thief\\_basically\\_red\\_handed\\_stealing/](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlxapx/guy_catches_thief_basically_red_handed_stealing/) \n\n\nsome ppl suck at searching for a repost", "I honestly didn't think this would be so entertaining", "Dude is loaded", "I really hope he isn't religious, because I'm pretty sure that's like 2 sins in one.", "I hate when they make up stories. \" Yeah I took these pain pills\"\n\nJust say I'm a piece of shit here's your stuff or a cheque for the value of that. Lol\n\nEnjoyed the video though", "Fuckin’ boomers.", "Probably friends or related to someone on the force. As someone who's known people with cop families, that's how it works. If someone obviously not charged with a crime they should have been, they're related to someone, or paid someone money.", "i'm surprised he wasn't shot as the u.s cops tend to do a lot", "The cops should probably look into other stolen property reports from the area. But I expect they won't.", "What an obnoxious scumbag. The old man sucks too.", "It was worth getting the local LE on his side as a great guy. They will leave no stone unturned if anyone steals from him again, and if you watch his videos, you’ll understand that being on good terms with local LE might keep him out of trouble himself. I don’t think any of that is why he gave the money back. I do think it was because of how distraught the wife was.", "Listen, there's no excuse! But here are my excuses", "Yeah, guaranteed the dudes friends, maybe even family have seen the video and seen him try to weasel his way out of it.", "Why does this guy get let off? Everyone in the video is so eager to let him get away with this, especially the police.\n\nYou know everything gets made into a race thing, and it can get tiring, I know, but seriously, if these had been the black neighbors they'd be led off in cuffs and you know it.", "Cool", "religious people think they will be 'forgiven' for anything if they just talk about Jesus enough", "Yeah, he wants to find the thief so he can forgive him, shake his hand, and have more content to post, apparently.", "I never understood not charging this guy? What does that reinforce? He stole so much, never intending to give it back and all for his own selfishness. So why not charge him? Its an open and shut case. Its not like this guy was stealing bread to feed his family, he saw people he didnt like and stuff he wanted and took it. CHARGE HIM. THROW THE BOOK AT HIM. Why leniency when he was in no way sorry for what he did? You do all this work, serve him up on a silver platter and then just fucking drop it all in a second. Never made sense to me. You arent ruining his life, he ruined his life by stealing and getting caught.", ">Who has that much cash lying around…?\n\nPeople who don’t have an ATM on every corner but live in a cash-based economy (e.g., much of rural America).", "He has \"fuck you\" money, as in he'll pay a great deal of money just to really say \"fuck you\" to someone he dislikes.", "If she's been benefitting from a crime whether she knew it or not has she still not had an advantage at someone elses expense? She's not guilty of anything, but if she's gained from other peoples loss it's hard to see her as a victim, and if she ever had a suspicion about him that she didn't bother to examine she's complicit.", "I'm not so sure. He looks like Thirsty Thursdays personified.", "Whistlin’ Diesel lives in Indiana", "Sorry that you're angry because it's true, dude.", "Laws for everyone else but me and my buddies.", "Did he get arrested?\n\nWould he if he was black?", "eh... property is a hell of a lot cheaper in the boonies. Where I live, the price of a 2 bed apartment in the city would buy you a 5 bed mansion with a hot tub room in the country.", "After reading the cops response on the YouTube comments I felt bad for him. Apparently the dude lost his pension and is underwater in medical bills (hence the pain pills). He was going to sell the stuff for Christmas money.\n\nIt doesn't excuse his behavior but fuck that sucks. But then again, 100% chance he's voted explicitly for politicians that wanted to dismantle the ACA.", "He's got a nice property and enough money. Better let him go.\n\nIt's the poors we want.", "Both him and the police would have reacted differently and you know it.\n\nSo yes I guess I am calling him racist.\n\nI guess he'll have to wipe his tears with those hundred dollar bills he uses to wipe his ass.", "Happy holidays!", "How to spot generational wealth in twenty minutes", "If he didn't repost I would never had seen it. Imagine that!", "I guarantee that punishing this guy and putting a felony charge and 3-5 on his sheet would be a lot worse than \"making him feel scared and sad.\" You know what's scary and hurts your feelings? Prison.", "I hate to break it to you but racism exists everywhere. Especially in America. Especially in the south.", "Don't forget anyone who pays as well, they don't necessarily have to be friends. Remember, cops have literally helped criminals/gangs, so long as they pay them off enough.", "Well, if you can't tie the self-righteous, entitled, & victimhood mentality most trump supporters have [to the similarities in this video] then you would say this. But I digress.\n\nHave a happy holiday!", "What happened to the original post? Already saw this yesterday.\n\nedit: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlxapx/guy_catches_thief_basically_red_handed_stealing/\n\nKarma whoring huh?", "Stealing anything is wrong, but it takes more than that for me to feel bad for whistlin diesel. Kid is a major douche", "“You’re not gonna steal again”\nLol, buddy. Please. This isn’t his first time\n\nYeah i stopped watching right there. Giving the money back? You went from being amped up about justice and getting your shit back to being full soft on the guy.", "Systemic racism: beyond the lens edition", "“Redneck boomer”? Well, that’s some offensive labeling there.", "The truth can hurt, let's not make him feel like a victim over it or we may end up with a little Trump supporter baby for new years 🤗", "wife", ">Whistlindeisel\n\nHoly shit, I just checked his channel and the views rate for each video is insane! He is almost at 1sub:1view rate with 3M subs...", "Something tells me you especially don't like it because I said conservative though. Probably the passive aggressive christian signoff.", "Imagine literally anyone who isn’t an old white guy doing this. They would be imprisoned fast. This guy is so fucking lucky that he even got money out of this robbery, he got to keep the cash. \n\nThe guy who made this video is a kind hearted man, I wish he used that cash to help people who actually need it.", "“I appreciate you giving my stuff back”\n\nHES THE ONE THAT STOLE YOUR STUFF!!!", "What a Loser ! 😆", "How could they not arrest him, especially after he made them get a search warrant???", "It was a good move. He apparently has plenty of money. Turning down the money makes him look good, and puts the thief even further in his debt.", "The whole thing is just f**king sad.", "He already moved and Is selling the property. He gave the money back because the wife was so upset", ".", "Older country people read the local news paper and had he been arrested, EVERYONE in that town would've known. Depending on their social network, the video may have little social impact on him. But regardless of all of that....\n\nThe excuses of him needing money is absolute trash. I hate, but understand a homeless junkie stealing as they actually have nothing to support a habit. This guys \"need\" for money is nothing but an excuse fabricated to elicit sympathy and undeserved mercy. Thieves NEVER admit they stole purely because they feel they are entitled to take what they want, no matter the personal cost to their victim and yet that's exactly what they believe.\n\nI don't fault the YT'er for not pressing charges. He has the legal and moral right to handle it as he feels is right. But this guy made *many* choices to steal and conceal it at great cost to his victim. It was not a simple crime of opportunity as he suggested.", "I cant forgive him for what he did to that mint hilux", "I know right - like victims of racism.", "He actually seems a bit if an ass hole if you watch his videos, he bully's his friends a little but by fuck he's funny, so he more than makes up for it. Great content, just a load of rich kids having fun", "His views per sub are almost unheard of in all the channels I follow. He has plenty of \"fuck off money\".", "And telling some sob story about being a drunk on pills.\n\nNo one fucking cares, dude.\n\nStop stealing shit.", "I'm not that familiar with how the law works in a case like this. Does someone have to press charges? Can they not just arrest the guy and press charges themselves? He definitely broke the law.\n\nIf they can't, then that explains how he got away with it. Because the victim let him go.", "Bro lookin like a young Tom Brady", "At least trump could form a sentence. Also how’s your student debt looking? Ole sleepy joe now pay it yet?", "Small towns have different standards. This isn't a racist, someone's got pull, or an officer was paid off type thing like you're insinuating.\n\nIt's a different lifestyle in some of these rural places. Dudes probably going to get it worse by being shamed by his community.", "Getting LE on your side is certainly a good idea, but that still doesn't mean this idiot shouldn't have to pay for damaging property. Getting compensation for someone else vandalizing your shit doesn't make you a bad guy.", "Youtube money or rich parents.", "Still doesn't excuse his behavior. He could have sold one of his trucks, downsized to a smaller home, gotten another job, so many other things he could have done other than steal. The thief stole when he had plenty of other options. He deserves the shame that comes with this.", "I don't think he understands either, even if he's from America.", "By worse you mean better right?", "I just compared and he has the same views as Pewdiepie with 111M subs. It's crazy and he is definitely makin' it rain.", "Being a victim isn't only a financial consideration. \n\nShe may genuinely be unaware of her husbands criminal activity, and this may cause emotional stress, a divorce, fights and embarrassment in her community, which is likely small and rural. \n\nThings aren't as binary as \"if she had a suspicion she is complicit\". I trust my wife and children, and will overlook small red flags without even thinking about it. The benefit of the doubt to a loved one is a powerful thing, now she has to endure the consequences of getting caught, without committing a crime.", "And this video had nothing to do with racism, you just made it up.", "It's exactly that, you can even hear it in his explanation of why he did it.\n\n\"Why doesn't that guy have that stuff locked down? I figured you just didn't want it anymore\"", "> My guess is, cops didn't want to charge him.\n\nGoes to show how much of our \"justice system\" relies on the emotional goodwill of police officers and officers of the court. \n\nIt can be a lot different if you talk different, look different, and people have pre-conceptions about who you are.\n\nHonestly, theft--of some sort--is so common, that if the thief gives the property back and agrees to make the victim whole, and the victim agrees to the terms, the police and DA often don't prosecute.", "Wonder if he had done it if there were no camera.", "It's probably not a race thing, it's probably a cultural thing around that area. Probably wouldn't have mattered what their color was. I think the YouTuber is just a good kid that doesn't want to hurt anyone. And those cops didn't want the extra work involved with processing the guy.", "Wife*\n\nThe f only becomes a v when it's plural (more than one). Much like knife and leaf.\n\nOne would not say, \"knive\", or \"leave\".", "My wife an I couldn't afford a 1 bedroom apartment in the east coast city where we lived. So we moved to the Midwest and now have twice as many bathrooms as people. And a hot tub.", "Exactly. I’m sure he complains about everyone else being lazy and entitled.", "Stealing from strangers isn't any less shitty you numb nuts", "Maybe the pills and beer comment will have the sheriff keeping an eye on him. How stupid to say, yeah I was DUI when I did it. He’s not only a thief but an idiot.", "This dude also tried to say it was a spur of the moment type thing, saw a “sale” sign, and thought it was abandoned. \n\nBullshit. He went scouring the crates saw the newish bows and still took them. His excuse was that in the moment it was too enticing. What a prick. He obviously didn’t think it was abandoned and knew what he was doing was wrong since he spray painted the cameras afterwards. A joker and a thief… not the good kind.", "Which would add DUI to the list of his crimes and no one said shit dude you clearly can't drive on this stuff either", "Not just low but incredibly sloppy. Don't shit where you eat.", "This kid probably makes more than that an hour 24/7/365. This video has only been up for a day, and it already has 2.6 million views. That could be up to $20,000 in AdSense just for this video alone, depending the value of the keywords associated with the video. If you watched the video until the end, you’d see what I mean about how that gesture impacted the LE who responded.", "He can sell his massive truck, or his SUV, or his house and land and move somewhere smaller. Or declare medical bankruptcy or any of countless other options that aren’t being a fucking thief.", "What the fuck kind of town is this where he has multiple people stealing shit from him?", "He makes a fuck ton of money on YouTube anyways and I think he genuinely felt bad for the wife.", "People who live in rural areas are entirely cash based.", "But, but ,but, you take two pain pills and drink a beer and you become a wild kid again....", "One of my joys in life - having great neighbors. You dont think about it too much, but we all watch out for each other. Going away, give one of them your keys to walk the dog or let the cats out etc. Need a place to leave a package? Invite over for Christmas Drink? Street parties to celebrate something? Tons of stories but fortunate to have them.", "It's funny because when I first started watching him he wasn't that rich and just beat on his Duramax Silverado in various ways on his farm. Crazy mods like tall wooden wagon wheels or massive tires. Now he's buying new shit every week and dropping mint condition Hiluxes out of helicopters for views.\n\nHe was much more entertaining just dicking around on the farm. Success ruined him.", "Low-key kinda makes me want to try and pull a heist off on one small random thing (like a salt shaker or some shit) he owns just to see how long it would take to track me down", "So?\n\nThat has no bearing on the fact that this guy stole and vandalized property.\n\nI watched the whole video. That's not the point.\n\nBeing the \"bigger man\" and giving back the money just enables this piece of shit to feel like he can get away with it.", "Distinguished gentleman just didn't feel right.", "Crabs in a bucket mentality.", "Are there jobs nearby those houses?\n\nBecause we tried moving to the country side over here for cheaper housing and still couldn't afford a place to live for the both of us.", "This is the weirdest hot take I have ever heard, how can you possibly believe this? Your argument makes absolutely no sense. I feel like you are taking concepts from Marxist economics that you’ve heard some YouTuber describe and trying to create a social parity here where none exists. You are using words like “advantage” and “benefiting” without establishing any sort of substantiation that your thesis is correct; which would be rather hard because you even admit that she is not guilty in the sentence prior.\n\nSeriously, Marx isn’t the solution to every injustice. The guy is guilty, the kid was right to get the police involved and had the right to press charges and require the guy to compensate him for the busted property, but exercised his right to show grace.", "Midwest is best. Fun little saying we have her in flyover country.\n\nEdit: down voted for loving where I'm from?", "And from personal experience stay away from Wisconsin.\n\nEdit: I'm allowed to not like a place and I have valid reasons. Your downvotes aren't going to sway those reasons. I had a shit expirience there and a lot of it had to do with the area I was in yes but it was still WI. So don't blame me for not liking my stay there. Blame those who made me hate it.", "I think it made a bigger impact to the guy. Him and his wife were both tearing up, even made one of the detectives almost shed a tear.", "I don’t see any way this guy is going to feel enabled to do anything after this. He’s literally on this video for all of his friends and neighbors to see what he did. His wife will not let him hear the end of it, and LE will be watching him.\n\nGetting $1400 back is the worst *you* could do in that situation to feel vindication. This kid pushed out a video of the guy that will earn him tens of thousands of dollars and publicly humiliate the guy for the rest of his life.", "I assure you he's big with projection", "…. Maybe OP didn’t see it posted yesterday?", "Yeah he only admitted guilt to worm his way out of consequences. He did everything he could to keep from getting caught and the cops plowed right through it.\n\nHe was putting everything he had into that performance. \"Oh I'm so embarrassed. We watch you on youtube. The pain pills and beer made me do it.\" He deserves no respect.", "You think so, pure entitlement?\n\nAt the end they talk about how he admitted to seeing some of the kids videos on their channel. I'm fairly certain there is a healthy amount of resentment tossed into this mix as well. Some utes with a bunch of nice stuff from the youtubes running around flashing the type of stuff he had to work hard for... I'll learn 'em somethin'.\n\nDoesn't make it right, but I'd distinguish resentment from entitlement.", "Showed who was the better man for sure.", "You'd expect stuff like this to happen in the city but I didn't know the friendly folk in the rural country did stuff like that. I live in the suburbs and never had a problem with theft.", "Ok not as much as joe though", "Pawnshops are full of items stolen by people like this guy. Steal a few tools here and there and it adds up. $50 here $200 there.", "Awesome 👏", "https://youtu.be/Ftpc4fwcDfk\n\nhttps://youtu.be/dG8r_z5yukE\n\nI need not continue to", "Cognitive dissonance.", "If I were the old bloke I'd feel absolutely horrible the moment he gave the money back. His wife seemed really sweet so that would be enough for me to return it.", "“No excuse” proceeds to give a load of excuses", "Settle down snowflake", "Well sir il drop all charges and be the bigger man. Oh and sign this release form so i can show your face.", "This young dude has a lot of money to buy lots of expensive things. Did it all come form making youtube videos?", "If you don't want to be punished, *stop breaking the law, asshole*.\n\nDon't turn this into a sob story for an entitled, rich fuck.\n\nYou think he would have tearfully come forward had he not been caught red handed?", "Possible opioid addiction? Or his wife? Or maybe they're shitty people that have always been shitty and just got caught. Other neighbors aren't going to have cell-connected security cameras and airpod trackers.", "I wasn't clear on that point. Was that the $1400 that he gave back?", "Best whistlin diesel video in a hot min", "Ok but Biden has several hours of videos of him not making sense not just a segment from a daily show", "Checks out, a story just broke about cops in Fairfax, VA being accused of protecting a human trafficking ring in exchange for free sex from the victimized women.", "First time I'm seeing it so I'm glad it was posted again.", "I dunno. The cops looked pretty thrilled to have some proof on this guy. Might be quite a few reports that can be resolved now.", "> Why does this guy get let off?\n\nBecause the youtuber is the bigger guy. He wasn't bent on vengeance, and probably did better off the video showing good will and grace than he got if he pressed charges.", "Cody even asks them, Are you doing ok? at one point. He has more money than he knows what to do with and would have gladly helped this man and his wife out if they needed it.", "[This was literally posted yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlxapx/guy_catches_thief_basically_red_handed_stealing/) but didn't get nearly as much attention because it didn't have \"redneck boomer\" in the title", "That's 100% how I saw it. You can see how awful the old bloke feels when he gives the cash back. Also his wife seemed sweet so I can see it being partly for her", "No one said it excused it. He himself said it doesn't excuse it.\n\nBut it does explain it. Sometimes some understanding can give some context, and you can choose to be compassionate.", "He mentions hes YouTuber a fairly successful one I would imagine.", "Wait...I thought liberals were all soft?\n\nThe right have been saying it for decades now!\n\n\nConsistency, is just not a conservative trait I guess", "It doesn't but at the same time, getting tied up in the legal drama of actually pressing charges isn't worth the time for the YouTubers. They are busy people and usually the money doesn't matter enough to waste the weeks of dealing with LE. You can see that in how not much was going to get done at all until he was at their gate.", "The YouTuber's buddy around 12m45s looks like Will Ferrell.", "I think you are reaching. I will agree he is not the most enthusiastic speaker. But people have used a stutter, and pauses in speaking to claim cognitive decline. That really only applied to Trump, and the daily show is not the only evidence of this (if you don't know this I urge you to educate yourself and come out from that rock you are living under).\n\nIt will be a long time, if ever, before we see a president as dumb as Trump, or shall we all inject bleach to save us form *that* infection.", "The motor home alone is a half million.", "Why are you getting upset at actions done by another? You do know that public humiliation was used back in the day when debts could not be repaid right? WD decided that was enough. His shit, his decision.", "100% guaranteed this dipshit is swimming in debt. I know rednecks like this personally. They leverage every last ounce of their credit to buy huge trucks and ATVs and boats and shit. And then blame the guvmint and the libruls for their financial troubles.", "No they won't. They will give him the same courtesy others receive when reporting things stole. None.", "> the guy is a thief, he's going to victimize someone else\n\nAnd likely has in the past.. I mean, I really doubt this is the first crime this ahole ever committed, just the first time (that we know of) that he's been caught.\n\nI really doubt he grew up to ripe old boomer age and just suddenly one day decided \"you know what, I don't have a conscience, I'm just gonna steal some shit\"", "I hate that move because it's clearly worked this guy's entire life.", "Well I mean, the cops didn't go full Frank Reynolds on the search warrant did they? In fact, no charges! Hooray!\n\nAnd before you say it, no, cops can also charge on their own.\n\nWithout fucking around, can you honestly say a black family would have been treated the same?", "\"Can't swear in a supreme court justice in an election year!\"\n\nSwears in a supreme court justice in an election year...", "Arguably, he technically did. He had the 1400 in hand, then gave it back. You could say that he just donated it to them or something. Ftr I agree with you, I don’t see anything wrong with keeping it either bc he is sitting in damaged property. I think him being a successful YouTuber makes this a bit of an outlier situation.", "*\"I took two pain pills and drank a beer\"*\n\nAmerica 101", "you should have sunk this guy, fuck being nice", "I feel bad for his wife, that's so embarrassing for her too and she's done nothing wrong. Glad they blacked out her identity, but everyone will know her husband in the local area, and know she's his wife. Pretty sad.", "you know, people steal all sorts of stuff, but america seems different, like, normal people just roll onto a property, fill up their car with shit and leave. \n\nThat doesn't seem right. Land of the free, but you need thousands of dollars to protect your stuff from getting stolen even out in the country. \n\nI live in germany in a city with 80.0000 people. Reasonably big. We leave our doors open most of the time, our garage is open. We would never worry anyone would steal our stuff, it's mindblowing how nobody in america seems to have an ounce of respect for their neighbors.", "Not even a little.", "He was a lot more forgiving then I would have been.", "It was an epic power play", "\"There's no excuse\" and proceeds to make 20 excuses.", "wow what a piece of shit, and so DUMB too", "Weird the wife easily walked to house and had $1400 cash.", "1400 is not a lot of money lol", "He called him out with that \"convinced myself i wasn't doing anything wrong\" shit so nicely though. \n\n\n\"Yeah, yet, you: wore a mask, painted my cameras & took off your license plate. \"\n\n\nBeautiful!", "It has very little to do with renumating the YouTuber and much more about making the offender pay for his actions.\n\nWhether or not a victim can afford to replace damaged property doesn't relieve the criminal of their obligation.", "What makes you think she knew?", "This video will be out of the news cycle in a week. His wife and the cops will give him shit but past that I very much the rest of the town will know or care. These types of thefts are all too common and really not going to be a black mark on an old retired guy in a small town.", "> I almost turned the video off\n\nSame... I couldn't stand hearing the bullshit excuses on video, I have no idea how the youtuber could stand there and listen to it, then put it on the video etc. There's no way I could have stayed calm like that, I would have been somewhat rude to this fuckface.", "How do people take the risk of being gunned down by the homeowner for petty theft?? Farm property, you bet that dude is packing, don't rob it", "You don’t really need release forms for YouTube. Now, he could try to get him to remove the video, but then there’s a slippery slope.", "I would actually believe it’s the opposite. So well off that you just get bored and decide to steal shit. I’m pretty sure it’s not outside the realm of possibility.", "“I don’t need your stolen money old man”", "It must be hard getting through daily life if you feel the need to bring *absolutely everything* down to racial inequality, even when everyone involved is a single race.\n\nWho's more racist - someone who can view a situation without thinking about race, or someone who manages to bag out a certain race in *absolutely everything they see*, even if there was only one race involved?\n\ntldr; *You're* the racist one.", "Yeah, this is Rutherford County, TN. Not Appalachian, just “Good Ole’ Boy” Tennessean.", "Goodwill from the youtube commenters.", "On top of that he's likely to make that money back from this video pretty much immediately", "'Christmas money' is not even a necessity so that doesn't make me feel bad for this guy who lives in such a big property with multiple cars.", "It's not an excuse but it doesn't mean nobody should care.", ">Guaranteed trump voter\n\nI thought liberals had progressives hate generalization?\n\nOh wait. I am also generalizing here. Idiots come in all colors.", "You underestimate how many people in the US are heavily in debt. Cause they have nice things doesn't mean they are well off.", "Yup, total clown.", "New channel idea: \"Whistlin Detective\" where fans steal Whistlin Diesel's shit and he has to track them down and forgive them.", "Honestly i hate he gave the money back and said no hard feelings get posted the video, which I shamefully enjoyed.", "Why? for what purpose?", "iirc one of the lower circles of hell in Dante’s inferno is treachery to your neighbor or something like that.", "It certainly isn't. Well off mother in my town stole thousands of dollars in groceries over the years and got charged for it a few years back. They live in a fucking ridiculous home.", "Even just for theft?", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rlxapx/guy_catches_thief_basically_red_handed_stealing/", "Sounded like a POS jack", "what leads you to believe he will do it again?", "Dude could have just said \"I got a thrill out of stealing it. I wanted the shit\" but that would never happen. The dude obviously spent at least an hour bullshitting the cops and getting upset. He was getting animated and angry when the cops were asking him about it.\n\nBecause he knew he was fucking caught. They had to show him a fucking search warrent (from what I gathered watching the video) and the dude still was upset.\n\nHe was more embarrassed that he got caught than actually feeling guilt. Saying \"OH I WAS ON PILLS AND HAD A BEER\" is fucking dumb because he would have given the shit back or admitted right away what happened.", "Absolutely. I know a dude who stole and sold drugs since he was a kid. Lived out in the country with upper-middle class parents. Built himself a nice little nest egg, went into nursing and finally got fired for stealing and license revoked. He now rents out the multiple properties he bought at 21 with that nest egg. But that's not the worst part. The worst is watching this guy post motivational Facebook posts about how his success is build on hard work while trashing the poor. If he got caught for half of the stuff he did, he'd still be in prison.", "based on what?", "You mean because you wouldn't?", "100% this comment. It’s a great video and is going to be around for a while. Way worse punishment for this guy.", "I think he is trying to make a horrible attempt at saying systematic racism isn't a thing. We will have to get the moron some more time to get the full thought out if he could ever put one togeather.", "Black people avoid calling the police on their neighbors too.", "I mean isnt that whole thing with a deathbed confession?", "Maybe the reason he has all that stuff is because he steals all the time.", "And did he get all of that legitimately?", "It's too bad they didn't leverage that to avoid having to get more department resources involved. That seems to be how it works in my neck of the woods - like, we can resolve this amicably now, but if you make me do paperwork, someone's getting bracelets.", "*Dear skid loader thief from 30 years ago, I'm going to find you... Unless you come forward, cause then I will give you the $300k reward money and shake your hand for being a stand-up guy. I don't care if you steal from others, just don't steal from me personally.*\n\nI really don't know how to feel about this guy. Maybe filthy-rich Youtubers are just too far removed from humanity to be understood. Must be cool to be play some sort of vengeful yet forgiving deity (and filming/monetizing that too, of course). The money he gave back to the thief could change someone's life. But not that old man's, or his wife's.", "He also made his money back off of the video itself. Kind of genious.", "Because you'd only be sorry that you got caught?", "I thought the hilux episodes were good. He took the car through the ringer and it was still pretty solid (before the helicopter drop). I was hoping he’d have more content on it before the drop. It’s his job and he still pulls in million of views.", "I'm confused. Do you think he should have been arrested or not?", ">but by fuck\n\nMy new favorite phrase.", "mean while locked in containers and has 3 trail cams and likely had a locked gate.", "Look at the sherif’s badges though, it’s Tennessee. Also, I used to live in the county where this was shot and recognize the location; it’s just south-east of Nashville.", "There's a difference between an excuse and an explanation.", "You’re just downvoting me as soon as reply, so why should I continue? Lol\n\nEdit: Ha! Caught redhanded, you instantly downvoting fool! Lol", "Guarantee this guy (the thief) is in church on Sunday’s….", "i love it ... 300k reward for a 20k skid loader.", "When you post a new video it shows you if a vid was already posted. Maybe some weird glitching with the links.", "You saw him steal something else?", "You don’t think the LE gave the guy courtesy in that video? They got a search warrant in under 20 minutes! Lol", "Probably, but I grew up in this world (rural Texas in my case). You have one (only one) accident and your doctor puts you on opiates for the pain for a few weeks then you are fucking hooked. Your life steadily becomes shittier. Your judgement becomes shittier. The opiate filled mind keeps you from blaming yourself. It's a fucking tragedy. I moved to the city at 26 then at 35 I had my one accident. I trusted my doctors. I took my opiates as prescribed. I had withdrawals and my first panic attack. I didn't give in (even though I VERY much wanted to). All my redneck friends had opiates to offer me to \"help\". I just had decades of examples to keep me from going down that path, but also, I had my wife take me to a clinic to figure out what to do about this panic attack (feels like you are dying the whole time). They gave me klonopin. I only needed the one, but I had a pretty heavy anxiety disorder for a year after that as my body chemistry tried to right itself. It was only because of the employee assistance program at work that I was able to get into therapy to get coping mechanisms for anxiety while my body figured it out. These rural people either don't have access to that or are too afraid of \"what people might think\" to start therapy. I'm also high functioning autistic, so \"what people might think\" has little to no impact on me. I can't judge normal people for how their instincts terrify them into fitting in.", "A better idea would be to say soenthing like, \" how about this? I will donate this money to charity under our names.\" He looks compassionate and both families can get that warm fuzzy feeling of helping others. And then the young dude can make it a tax write off", "This is not the first time I've seen one of his videos where he's using some equipment,\n\nBreaks to look at the camera and just rips the crappy, dogshit tools to shreds. Always in that same \"Aha!\" tone of voice. \n\nBrilliant.", "The thief knew that too, his wife admits to watching the victims YT channel and mentions he’s very well off. I don’t think she’s in on it but the couple knew that neighbor and his YT channel.", "How much you pay for a brush that wide?", "Complaining about downvotes?\n\nGrow up.", "Right, it's a projection of insecurities.", "Sob story for someone who can whip $1400 cash out of their house when the law shows up.", "But your reply to him earned you a downdoot, him an updoot, and also a Silver.", "Which is why it's not an excuse, but an explanation.", "I literally almost saw a theft take place right in front my eyes about a month ago. I was walking home, and I see some woman hop out of a car that her friend was driving. She saw a dresser or something in someone's yard, hopped out the car, and gave it a once over.\n\nShe ended up not being impressed. As she went back to the car empty handed, she told her friend something along the lines of \"It was shit, like shit shit.\" I just thought this woman had all the audacity.", "lifetime thief?", "I would have pressed charges - f that guy.", "And came back a second time. This wasn’t a spur of the moment thing. He took extraordinary steps to steal this guys shit", "so the wife can afford the funeral when he kills himself through such soul crushing shame.\n\n​\n\n​\n\nsorry.", "Public shame! 🔔", "In rural areas, stores and restaurants are much more likely to be cash only. Some stores offer a noticeably different price for cash vs card. That makes having cash on hand useful.", "Especially when he subtly started blaming the man he stole from. \"Oh, the gate was open and there was a for sale sign, so I just thought everything was abandoned.\" This dude just tracked him down and his best defense is \"if you didn't want your stuff stolen, you shouldn't have trusted your neighbors to respect your property rights.\"", "Cmon guy...Trump formed sentences like this...\n\n\"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn't been checked because of the testing,\" Trump said, speaking to Bryan during the briefing. \"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too.\"\n\n\"It affects elderly people, elderly people with heart problems, if they have other problems, that's what it really affects, that's it. In some states thousands of people — nobody young — below the age of 18, like nobody — they have a strong immune system — who knows?\" Trump said.\n\n\"Many of those cases are young people that would heal in a day,\" Trump said.\n\n\"When we have a lot of cases, I don't look at that as a bad thing,\" the president said. \"I look at that in a certain respect as being a good thing, because it means our testing is much better. So, if we were testing a million people instead of 14 million people, we would have far few cases, right?\n\n\"CDC made its initial recommendation that people wear cloth or fabric face coverings, Trump said it was going to be \"really, a voluntary thing\" and emphasized that he would not do it.\r \n\r \n\"You can do it. You don't have to do it. I'm choosing not to do it, but some people may want to do it, and that's OK. It may be good. Probably will. They're making a recommendation. It's only a recommendation,\" Trump said.\"", "lol what a stretch. you think his good ol boy black neighbor would have been treated differently? why?", "I've never seen this kid before, so at the beginning when he's showing 16 AirTags, I'm like, \"whooo baby, that's like $400 right there!\"\n\nJump cut to a $300k reward for a $20k skip loader.\n\nMy kid already makes some Youtube videos, I gotta encourage this shit!", "And you know this guy was frothing at the mouth about \"Antifa BLM terrorists looting Best Buy\" last summer.", "We are all neighbors on this planet.", "You’re making an awfully large assumption off of one video.", "The vast majority of the migration of the past year and a half has been remote workers who don’t rely on the local economy for income. I’ve been considering moving to a more rural part of my state, but my kids would suffer as the schools are worse.", "Jesus I love how white people deal with theft between themselves, downvote me go for it. TBf the YouTuber is a decent guy though", "I'm just pointing out that the likelihood its a scheme that his wife is knowledgeable about as opposed to just his sideshow scumbaggery is pretty low.", "Doubt it. This is in the middle of the country. If his neighbors were black they'd be good ol boys too.", "What is wrong with you?", "Sounds about white", "is that what you would need?", "What makes you say it was made up?", "I hate thieves like this to no end", "It's also the most common", "For what purpose?", "same, I'm currently in this comment section, as I can't bare to watch haha", "The most copium statement if there was one. The price you pay for the cost of living? The absolute worst weather in the country.", "This is a racist take lol\n\nYou clearly don't understand the issue and the reason you don't see race in this very clear representation is because you have benefited from a system that supports your skin color.\n\nA black man was suspected of using a fake 20 bill and they stood on his kneck till he died.\n\nThis man stole tens of thousands of dollars of gear and was let off with no marks on his record.\n\nThe density it takes to say the shit you did in these kinds of scenarios is the same density required to form a racist goon.\n\nEdit: I should add, the black man had no evidence leading people to believe he knew the 20 was fake or that he was breaking the law.\n\nThis man preemptively removed his plates, spray painted cameras, and tried to wear obscuring clothing to hide his identity has he pulled off a felony theft.\n\nBefore the cops approach the white dude they have a fully investigated and documentation of his crimes, still treat him like one of the good ones...\n\nOf course, I'm sure you have plenty of reasoning on what makes an innocent black man a danger in comparison to a criminal white man.", "Everything, but that's a deflection.", "It's kinda like the difference between insulting someone to their face and insulting someone online anonymously -- but I guess you wouldn't understand.", "Trump can barely read. \nEvidence: trump talking about how the “manned the airports “ when talking about the revolutionary war. \n\nRamparts. He couldn’t read ramparts.", "Wisconsin is amazing. Not sure where you were.", "Just an FYI, obsessing about political figures isn't a personality. Go find one.", "Ah okay I see, you just prefer punishment over anything else. Like, you wanna see direct punishment for any transgression. That’s fair I suppose. I think it’s lacking in nuance but it makes sense in a way.", "I don’t live under a rock I looked into both and while trump wasn’t the best speaker by any means he was more aware then Bidens babbling. Granted biden has had multiple brain aneurysms and is almost 80 years old but he still holds office.", "Sounds like a bullshit sob story the guy made up. Probably why the dude chose to not include it in his video. No point in creating any sort of sympathy for him, especially when there's a high chance he's lying.", "That REALLY PISSED ME OFF. Him not pressing charges was nice enough. There was absolutely no justification to reward that criminal.", "I was looking for that too and I'm pretty sure he was wearing one on the way to the guys house.", "Does it say what city and state this is in? If it did I missed it.", "He elected not to press charges.", "Crazy how after the guy steals stuff from Cody he still gives them money. Haters can hate but that is genuine humble humility.", "I would have given him a guilt trip that he is not a good person and this is how he treats his new neighbors... How would he react if this happened to his own children? What a slime ball.", "You know the guy who stole the stuff?", "I won't disagree some of his new stuff is entertaining and worth watching but just the \"for the views\" feel is very present. Felt much more authentic watching him have fun at home with the same truck or two and working with what he had rather than optimize it all for cash production. The soul is gone. \n\nMore just a comment on YouTube in general and the way channels evolve as they gain success, but he's a prime example.", "Alcohol made him do it? Maybe he should also get a DUI. We have confessing on camera.", "I would've pressed charges 💯. No excuse for stealing like that. Don't care what your reasons are", "Based on what?", "Ugh.. Why bring politics into this?", "Oh read it, right, thanks Tips.\n\nI change my stance entirely. Except you know, the part where they arrest the thieves non-dependant of what hat hair says\n\nAre you familiar with the term jebaiting?", "Didn't his wife make almost 300k in a month using OnlyFans?", "Went through all that trouble just to let him get away with it. \n\nPerformative bullshit like this is going to erode our society.", "Never heard of this guy. Glad he found his stuff. Thieves suck.", "Also that the couple admit to watching his YT channel and know he’s loaded.", "God forbid someone pay for the shit they vandalize.", "Sweet gaslighting bro", "This dude eluded to it. Healthy dose of pain meds, alcohol and meth makes the risk assessment part of your brain turn off.", "because it's characteristic of rednecks and boomers?", "Fuck whiskey dick. I hate this asshole. Anything bad that happens to him is karma.", "Dude woulda been jailed for life if he was anything but white. God bless America.", "I agree that they don't need to disparage rednecks but it's not the same as ghetto thug.", "I love how he admitted to driving while drunk and high on pills right in front of a bunch of cops. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.", "Lol so what would have happened to his good ol boy black neighbor?", "He spray painted the cameras he knew what he was doing the entire time.", "You’re a cassette, my guy, so there’s no point in going back and forth. You’re not trying to see my point, you just want yours to be the only and correct one. Be easy and stay safe.", "It is probably a little knife into the thief's pride as well. Looking like he took someone's charity", "Nothing he said draws upon anything from Marx and I'm a bit confused as to why you think it does... That's quite a stretch to hear someone use benefit and advantage as words in a sentence and then connect those dots to modern social justice politics and then on to Marxist theory and then onto Marx himself.", "Nope, he was fucked up on pills and booze. they last a bit longer than brief.", "I grew up in semi-rural Oregon and know exactly what you mean. That Trump boat parade on Lake Travis in Austin where they swamped each others’ boats with wake and screamed and whined about sheriffs boats not helping them fast enough was the perfect living analogy of their lifestyle.", "I mean, I could definitely believe he took out loans he couldn't afford to pay for his lifestyle, then stole a bunch of stuff when he realized he was in over his head\n\nso yeah kinda", "I stopped immediately when the excuses came out.\n\nI guaran-fucking-tee this dickhole is a “tough on crime” type. He was(probably still is in this video) boozed up, drugged up, stole, vandalized, then had the audacity to lie to the police. Fuck him in his fucking fuckface.\n\nYoutuber might have not pressed charges for the stolen items but fuck the cops for not giving him a DUI.", "There are no heroes in this story.", "For anything. From murder (very unlikely for this to be one, but I have seen it) to a traffic ticket.", "I'm not familiar with the YouTuber Whistlin' Diesel? Where does the money come from?", "You don't know many career thieves or compulsive ones do you? They. Do. Not. Care. Who. Knows. Given how blatant this guy is, I guarantee you people in his life already know he is a thieving scumbag. Listen to how smoothly he starts coming up with BS excuses. He shed some crocodile tears and got away with everything scott free, even after being caught. I deal with people like this a depressing amount and I assure you he feels empowered from this experience. \"The high road\" doesn't fix things nearly as much as people like to pretend with their rose colored glasses. It just kicks the can down the road. Make people face consequences for their actions, he is an adult. It's the only way a person like this ever learns.", "*alluded\n\nElude is synonymous with \"escape\" as in, \"the thief should've eluded authorities for longer but he missed the third camera.\"", "Police doing their job well. I fear he may never have got his stuff back if he didn’t have the evidence on his side. Put up some cameras around your home, go the extra mile incase this or worse happens to you and your family.", "We are a global community here on the World Wide Web!", "Break shit, pay for it.\n\nThat's a very simple concept.\n\nI'm sorry it appears to elude you.", "Dude just single handedly funded this guys next heist", "If you give redditors an excuse to hate on an entire group based on the actions of one person, they'll jump on it every time. There are a ton of bigots on Reddit. \n\nSimilarly- so many top comments bringing politics into a completely apolitical video; this place is so hungry for enemies.", "He’s an entitled piece of shit boomer who thinks he’s entitled to anything someone from a younger generation has. Fuck him.", "cause of how he committed the crime. he did it with forethought which suggests he planned it and it wasn't some spur of the moment thing. the casual nature of how he did it took, just walking slow to paint the cameras, that makes me think he's done this before and got away with it. now he finally gets caught, and oh look at that, zero consequences for him. gee i wonder if he'll do it again, or if he's learned his lesson after not facing consequences.", "I guess I thought stealing property was handled differently.", "I did turn it off. Couldn't watch any more.", "not to them. They still think he won.", "If I could find whoever stole my classic film cameras I wouldn’t press charges. I just want my cameras back. Maybe $50 for my broken truck window.", "I don't see how planning it means he did it before or will do it again.", "You have zero clue. That property is NOWHERE in the US for 100k.\n\nThis is a country estate with several outbuildings and undoubtedly some property. Even in shitsville midwest USA this is a 500k+ property", ">He'd seen this guys videos and was jealous of his wealth and success and figured he deserved a piece of it because of some cruel injustice he completely imagined.\n\nYou just described Bernie Sanders.\n\nEdit - Downvotes means that it hit home. Keep them coming.", "I never suggested she has any knowledge of it, just that she benefits from it.", "Giving that money back almost certainly sealed the deal for him to never come back again, and dissuades him from letting his buddies steal from him again too. I think this was the right move. \n\nThe dude clearly doesn’t need the money, and they almost certainly do. I fear this would have made the guy want to get even with him and come back harder next time he was on his pain pills.", "It is the thrill. He is bored and stealing stuff is fun for him. As it is now, his fun hasn't cost him anything beyond discomfort for his wife. They needed to take his money and press charges.", "He got paint and drove to spray the cameras. Then he went home and removed the plates from his 4runner. Then drove to grab the stuff. Spur of the moment my ass.", "Almost like people who are breaking into homes to steal are not in their right mind or are incredibly desperate so it doesn't matter if the home owner has a gun or not. \n\n\nI'm a pro 2A guy but this notion that somehow \"people wouldn't do that if they knew everyone was packing\" is dumb.", "From the thumb nail this looks like a patty mayo fake police video. Is it worth the watch?", "the planning bit just means he did it with forethought. that's not what suggests he's done it before. the casual way he does it is what suggests he's done it before. normal people would be a bit more nervous the first time they commit a crime. they'd also probably start smaller, take a few things. he took a shitload of stuff. hell he took stuff that wasn't even worth much, why take tail gates? it's almost like he thought he was entitled to that shit.", "Usually pissing them off makes them want to charge you. Defendant is a local so... maybe families connected? Friends? Wife? \n\nOr maybe just the fact that defendant's paying it back the same day and victim is not interested in pressing means they'd like to show up to court for one less case.", "Lol hold up, let me just get out my magical \"make your job from home\" wand and we'll be right on it", "Found a thief", "He spray painted the cameras afterward because he didn't want to be seen going back later to steal more (his vehicle was full from this heist).", "Don't judge all Americans on the worst examples. In the 25+ years I have lived in my house the only time I have locked my door is after watching a spooky movie and freaking myself out. I am not even sure if I have a key if I wanted to lock it up when I leave.\n\n In the last 30 years I can think of 2 cases of burglary in my town and both of them were businesses not private residences. Yeah, there are a lot of places in the US that are crime ridden but there are also a lot of safe places too.", "I love a good goober on goober crime video.", "well, according to him he was fucked up on pills and booze.", "Have you been to a small town? Everyone talks shit about everyone for anything. If this dude put up his Christmas lights too early, it would be a tale passed down to generations about the “ Time Bob Tried to Skip Thanksgiving” .", "trump voting isn't politics, it's a personality flaw.", "Yes he did.", "How much of that was gained thru theft? Embezzlement? Back room deals? \n\nYou don’t wake up at 60+ and start stealing.", "I’m referring to the situation we have in front of us. It’s easy to make a blanket statement like you just did to make it seem like I’m the imbecile but you’re ignoring the nuance of what happens in the video. I never even disagreed with you; I said I believed the thief should pay. But when I tried to incorporate the nuance of the situation, you held onto your absolute way of processing the situation, which is fine, bc some situations are black and white like that. But when you don’t take nuance into account, then you’re just debating in bad faith, trying to be right instead of trying to see that not everything happens so rigidly and absolutely.", "??? WI is still pretty cheap and has a lot going for it. Not perfect by any means, sure, but most people that live here love it and recognize that it's perfect and want to help improve it, rather than move away from the problems.", "Boomer is probably in debt up to his eyelids. \n\nMy dad is one of these types... Brand new cars, huge house, 8 acres of land, and no hope of ever retiring. He's always wheeling and dealing shit on FB Marketplace to make up the deficit.", "$1400 in cash isn't so strange to have around.\n\nThat's pretty much what the government recommends here in case of emergency or war.", "Pretty good title goes a long way", "I'm not gonna make any excuses, but here's a bunch of excuses.", "Never heard of the guy. Don't assume everybody watches the same stuff as you do.", "I made it till the boomer tired to rationalize stealing and then became too furious to continue watching. I know people like this. My family operates a business where we occasionally have to dispose of dead livestock that either dies in the yard or can't be loaded on a truck to make it to a packing house. So we have an area were we put the deceased livestock to be taken away by the rendering truck to be turned into dog food and cheap leather at $75 an animal regardless of size. I know for a fact that we have neighbors that leave their dead animals on our dead pile because they don't want to pay the fee or dig a hole. I have been trying to catch them on my trail cameras for a few years. It pisses me off to no end. Perhaps I just need to break down and buy some cameras like the ones he has. So I can finally put an end to this nonsense.", "You'll need to do your research on specific towns and cities. And depends on what kind of job you're looking for. My town has a median home sale price of 97k and there's plenty of good paying work around here. Mostly in manufacturing.", "He stole a crate filled with merchandise from the channel. No doubt, after stealing it, he looked it up online. While it is plausible he knew who he was stealing from, I doubt it. Far more likely he figured it out afterwards and watched them then. \n\nWhich means his wife was in on it, since she too watched them after the theft.", "Also, don't you just hate it when your license plate mysteriously falls off when you go to pick up some \"abandoned property\" you just found?", "Oh please. The \"keep politics out of x\" crowd are ALWAYS the first people to bring it up and dish it out, they're just pussies and can't take it. Shit like at thanksgiving saying something like \"pass me the black pepper.....or maybe I shouldn't say that or i'll get in trouble with the PC police\"", "His wife walked out of the house with $1400 cash to pay for the damaged trail cams. While thats not a lot of money, I doubt many people have it on hand in cash.", "I watched the entire 30 min video! Sat through the God damn commercials too. They got a future in making some quality documentaries.", "Best part about this is the end where he's offering a 300k reward for a 20k skid loader", "Yes. He's the guy that follows the playbook that, statistically speaking, all thieves follow as he displayed in the video. The circumstances for their criminal behavior *is unique* compared to other \"normal criminals\". The thing is, they *all* use the exact same logic to rationalize their actions. It's the way they circumvent facing their real character.", "Believe it or not, some people enjoy winter. And winters are worse on the east coast anyway.", "Somehow none of the replies touched on the fact that it wasn't actually stolen money that he 'gave' back to the thief. The thief only stole items, but he destroyed two security cameras that were set up. The police made the thief pay the other man the price of the two cameras ($1400) on the spot, and the youtuber didn't want to take the cash from people who he thought needed it, so he just took his items back and ate the cost of the cameras.", "He just owned him dude it was not about the money it was about the principle. \n\n> I don't *need* my stuff back. I *wanted* my stuff back.\n\nHe then goes on to offer a 300k reward for a 20k skid loader at the end of the video.", "The only value there is the buildings. For all we know they're decades old.", "That was his families who were salt of the earth farmers.\n\n​\n\nI cannot wait for this to resolve. Someone knows something and for 300k I would out any thief. Hell I would for free but still, someone knows something.", "Every person in this video was likely a Trump voter. What's your point?", "Oh, statistic crime. Kinda like thought crime huh.", "There's also no indication they just had that cash at home. They could have gone to the bank and withdrew the cash to pay him.", "#The more you know", "I’m from the city. I have family out in Michigan. Hell you can’t even walk into someone’s yards chasing after your dog that got out without risking getting shot or being informed they were about to in some parts.\n\nSo I can’t even comprehend this guy’s thought process.", "More aware? Present an ID for food shopping. He was blissfully and willfully unaware. \n\nAge is really not the game changer here. Trump is an obese 76 year old with both mental and mobility issues. \n\nIf you're not living under a rock you have seen the articles about how his own staff kept information from him and actively treated POTUS like a baby - because Trump is in fact a petulant child.", "Tillable land is 8-12k an acre nationwide, so there’s that. Guy has assets, period.", "Yes, I have. Everything is talked about forever by old people. The difference is that in small communities like this. Theft of this nature is normal and many of them are guilty of it. It's not the sweet small-town portrayed on tv. These are dying communities that have been ravaged by pills and meth and people are always looking for an easy buck.", "> Whistlin’ Diesel must have considered that the shaming from social media will follow the thief as punishment enough.\n\nEspecially since the thief and his wife watch their videos. Imagine watching your favorite youtuber calling you out while cringing at yourself. Damn the embarrassment! Over a few bows, old tailgates and a leafblower.", "If this thief was actually poor or an ethnic minority, they would be rotting in prison right now.", "You saw how angry the guy was when he knew he was caught. It was all an act, the wife was well aware of the thieving. They needed to make it costly for the theif...but I do realize this is a youtube channel, they have rules. If he didn't give the money back, some people online would have hated him for it.", "If you feel that you've been made to look the imbecile, you only have yourself to blame.\n\nIf you break shit, you pay for it. Very simple.\n\nIf he went to a store and broke a $1400 item, he'd be expected to pay for it. It doesn't matter that the store can afford to absorb the loss. It's immaterial. There isn't any \"nuance\" to it.", "And there's no internet", "Rent free", "Don't forget that ginormous RV parked to the left. Easily 50k if not more just sitting there.", "honestly while it was done in to appear to be kind and forgiving it was also a bit of a slap in the face to the thief.\n\nIt said, I'm going to make you give me my stuff back, embarrass you and make you give you the money for what you don't still have and then show you that I don't even need it and just did this to teach you a lesson.", "He owns his own property in Tennessee where this was filmed. Most of his most recent videos are from this property, and in a few he's talked about having to set up cameras because of people stalking him.", "it's nothing to do with Marxism and it's weird that you leapt to that conclusion. It's simple math. Someone was robbed by her husband, they lost something, she gained it. She didn't commit the robbery but still gained wealth from the crime, therefore she's innocent but still better off thanks to her husbands victim being worse off. It's pretty straightforward. I also don't necessarily believe there was anything wrong with the cameras besides having a little paint on them so it'd be disingenuous to accept full compensation for equipment that's far from destroyed, and they could be insured against vandalism anyway. I'm not 100% convinced that refusing the money was simply \"showing grace\".", "It's called killing with kindness....I use it all the time!", "They were very quick to push for no charges against him.", "acting. pure acting. I bet the guy went right back to driving around for things to steal a week later. \n\nRemember from the video: the guy said \"his friend\" told him about the cameras. Theft is what he and his peer group do for fun. He isn't going to give it up just because someone embarrassed him on YouTube.", "It's synonymous with \"crayon eater\". It's not political. It's a description of stupidity.", "peepeepoopoo", "On the brightside the thief watches WhistlinDiesel so he can see the behind the scenes shit talk and laughing about what a lowlife he is, before AND after turning down his money. FTG.", "Here’s a warning: don’t steal from me. If you do, I’ll spend a lot of time and effort to locate my stuff and then I’ll come over and haul everything back to my house. That ought to teach these thieves a hard lesson! And if I’m really pissed, I’ll refuse to take money for damages, punks!", "And, that was after lying to the police about it and acting all offended. Making sure to take the license plate off, the second time stealing, spray painting the security cameras. This is not dudes first time stealing. He got off way too easy.", "This is a repost of a top post from yesterday...", "He explicitly said, \"I made myself think I wasn't doing anything wrong\"", "The youtuber was unbelievably patient & not many wouldn't of pressed charges. He knows his viewer base (the robber said they watch his videos) - The robber seems to get off lightly, but since he was used in the video, the youtuber probably fucked him much harder & kept/expanded his viewer base.", "It’s more in the YouTuber. It just seems like he wanted his stuff back with an apology rather than sending the guy to jail. Since the items weren’t too expensive and it didn’t seem like the YouTuber was going to press charges, the police will just let it go.", "I also live in Germany, in a city right about as big as yours. I have left stuff (laptop, phone, backpack, etc.) in the public library on a desk just waiting for me as I go out of the building for lunch break. Never had anything stolen…I come from Mexico and got my phone stolen as I left it on a desk to get some copies in my schools library, which was a private school. I was gone maybe 30 seconds….", "worse than getting shot by a cop? because that's what happens to unarmed black people who fail at the game of Lethal Simon Says. If this had been a black dude he would be dead, his pets would have all been dead, and the cops would have tazed the old lady for screaming while her husband and dog were killed in front of her.\n\nthis video is a white people thing. there are no black people in these places able to take part in this rural folksy community law enforcement because the people and police terrorize any that have ever dared to venture in.\n\nthere are rural communities with black people in the deep south, and law enforcement there is racialized state terror.", "At one point the wife says, we heard you were well off. Yeah so, totally ok to steal from him?????", "Raging justice boner. I expected the cops to say, well nothing we can do!! The fact they got a warrant immediately was awesome for a change. I sort of find it satisfying, they rushed around, did their jobs, but got no arrest to pad their stats in the end.", "^ very true. The public shaming is probably a lot worse than $1400 in a small town. \n\nAlso the guy who made this literally destroys like $20k-$50k plus worth of stuff just for giggles/views in most of his videos. By comparison $1400 is super cheap content for him lol, plus it makes the thief look terrible and makes the main guy look like a saint", "It’s payment so he won’t feel bad about blasting the guy on his very popular YouTube channel.", "Yes.", "The Greatest Generation would be so proud of their Boomer kids.\n\nBut it's us younger generations that are the problem.", "Paid him to not steal back!!! very good thinking", "I agree with you, provided she was completely unaware her husband was a thief.", "100%. The lack of consequences will lead to him repeat in the same crime again", "He actually made himself rich. Poor farm family, he worked construction and started modding his daily duramax he drove to work and made videos. Shit got out of hand and his viewership exploded.\n\n​\n\nI had a strong dislike for his destruction and such before watching. He's a genuine soul, smart and very hard working. \n\n\nClearly, not everyone gets that or celebrates his success.", "If the guy who actually got his shit robbed can show forgiveness and compassion to the guy, maybe the rest of us, who literally were not effected at all, can do the same.", "$1400 won’t make a difference for that kind of person if being embarrassed in front of your wife on a video getting millions of views doesn’t do it. The kid had way more to gain by what he did than anybody had to lose.", "Fuck her, she's not the victim, she needs to suffer for the sins of her loved ones. That's how it works in families", "It is the great commandment, love thy neighbor as yourself.", "not one video, i didnt just pop into existence 20 minutes ago. I know, hard to believe", "How much you want to bet everyone in the video--thief, victim, and police--votes for mandatory minimum sentences for people who steal to support their crack habit.", "There's no fraud without a fairytale", "I didn’t feel like an imbecile, I said you were trying to make me look like one. You got some ace reading and critical thinking skills there champ.\n\nYour example is a wholly different situation lol of course a store will make them pay. Their only concern is their bottom line. But what we have in front of us is a person stealing from another person, and the latter person makes so much that they may not be concerned about a loss like that. I know I said I didn’t wanna go back and forth but honestly, I take it back because I have nothing else to do while I squeeze out my morning deuce.\n\nJust admit that you would cut someone’s hand off for taking the last slice of pizza and call it a day.", "Yeah, their point was clearly that it’s okay to rob random strangers…", "I promise he would pay 1400 to make this vid disappear.", "Umm...I have more cash than that on hand in my safe in case of emergencies. I'm not a theif, I just work really hard.", "It's possible this area is more populated with retired ranchers of some sort. The area could be twice the size for the activity, people gone for months. Not saying THAT is the case here, but it's likely why that dingus figured he'd get away with it.", "Reddit tells you when you repost, they ignored the notification.", "You seem to believe this is up for debate. It isnt. There are a dozen states in the Midwest with objectively the worst weather year round. Also feel free to point out where I said people didn't enjoy winter. That wasn't what was being discussed. As for the winters being worse on the east coast? That's irrelevant, and honestly not even entirely accurate. You get the humidity of Florida and the winter of New York.", "I bet the guy has plenty of cameras at this point.", "The shame of being bigger manned by a 22 year old will be much more effective at possibly changing his behavioral patterns than $1400. You don't know how people work if you disagree.", "Dudes been stealing for 60 years", "Sorry I missed the black person in the video? Where were they? Why are you making this post about racism? \n\nWhat triggered you?", "It's Cody. Not sure where Dustin came from.", "He's probably the guy who sells it to the closest pawn shop though. They keep records on what they buy for this reason.\n\nA dumbass friend of mine did this in high school and ended up in juvie for 6 months", "Stop whining about it. The guy who actually got robbed did what he thought was right and it's not your stuff so stfu", "Except that it's used in a negative way against rural whites, and boomer is to insult then for their age.\n\nIt's entirely meant in a negative and hateful way. Sometimes racist as well.", "Yeah those airtags he had handfuls of are like $30 a pop.", "Interesting, most of the semi-rural areas in my state have much better public schools than the cities.", "The mark of a good YouTuber making a legitimately interesting 20minute video about a story that only needs three sentences to tell.", "How much prison time potentially for stealing something worth 20k? I mean cosidering this guy didn't press charges against the neighbour in the vid the skid loader thief could get a friend to make a tip for 300k and later split it. Depends if he wants to risk it.", "Great video! I just wish the title wasn't so incendiary for no reason.\n\nLike, one, whats the point of calling the thief a redneck? The video creator is too, I mean, he makes videos about mudding and owns three compound bows. There's a Jeff Foxworthy joke in the somewhere.\n\nTwo, boomer is unnecessary too. I mean, are we pretending that people of all ages and backgrounds don't steal and it's just boomers?\n\nShould have just said old thief or something, but I guess that wouldn't generate as many clicks on Reddit.", "I love me a good conspiracy theory, but I don't find this one plausible enough to entertain. Maybe if I could see the wife and her face during her reactions?", "I saw this in another post and I get the feeling this is staged and created to go viral for that guys youtube channel.", "I don’t know why the cops are making this YouTuber guy decide whether they pursue criminal action on this guy. If you have enough evidence for a warrant, the warrant produces thousands of dollars in stolen and damaged goods and the man lied and made you get a warrant in the first place, he’s only sorry because he got caught. Charge him.", "You don't get rich by spending your money...or so I'm told", "It was a skid loader that was stolen over a decade ago. It was his dads. The reward is almost kind of a joke, but he would pay it I'm sure if it actually was found.", "As a current Wisconsin resident, I'd say it all depends on *where* you are in Wisconsin. Madison is great. Bumble fuck rural areas? Yeah, maybe not so much.", "Robbery is vile", "If he had the choice between this video going up and paying 1400, i bet he would pay the 1400.\n\nHe would probably be willing to pay 100k over a few years, instead of this video going up.", "They should have heard him admit to driving drunk and on pain pills and arrested him for DUI. He voluntarily admitted he has fucked up and not in a sober state of mind.", "Of course it's an insult, but it's not really the same in any other way.", "Don't bring a hypothetical race question into the story. The video is what it is.", "Wife was crying. Even though she scraped that $1400 together. Something about a woman’s (or anyone’s) tears that effects us humans.", "Nothing really, I just saw a greedy piece of shit criminal trying to convince himself that it's not his fault and it reminded me of someone.", "Hats off to this kid for having so much grace at that age. He could have been mean or vindictive and been totally justified but he forgave it all right there on the spot. I personally couldn't have done that and I don't know too many people that could.", "This was one of the most satisfying videos I've ever watched. Completely nailed this guy!", "Hit the nail on the head.", "How do you know that?", "You can elect to not press charges, but ultimately it's the DA's choice-- you can desire for someone not to be held responsible, but at a certain point, they can just ignore your desires to extend mercy. And they should have ignored it now-- this guy wasn't in a desperate situation, he was just greedy.", "yeah, the fact that he kept lying about it after the fact made me very unsympathetic.", "Sure, if you want to be a farmer.", "He has a video where he gives someone a $5K reward for helping him get back a $500 helmet, which he then destroys. He really hates thieves", "Cus he's a multi millionaire and a stand up guy", "Not so much that he would have to steal it from his neighbors.", "Sounds about white", "I was referring to the neighbor, but I realize I switched to talking about the youtuber, and didn't make that clear.", "My guess is that in a lot of instances police are actually disincentivised to do work. They are paid a fixed salary and anything they have to do is extra work. \n\nI live in a different country but have had a motorbike stolen and the police essentially convinced me not to do anything about it. Then they actually found the motorbike and the guy who did it but again the police convinced me not to take him to court or whatever. Reflecting on it now, I can see that it's in their incentive to convince people not to take crimes to court as then it's more work for them, maybe the incentive structure needs to change.", "Lol at reverse sponsorship", "Hey buddy we’re shitting on rednecks here, move along. No but seriously I know plenty of very well off rednecks that just work a shit ton of OT at blue collar jobs and pay for a lot of their stuff in cash. It’s not rare at all in rural areas", "🤷 I'm not robbing my neighbors house while on pills and alcohol.", "Only if someone wants it and is willing to pay that much. The land may be too acidic for farming. That leaves grazing I suppose...", "Lol yeah he just made himself look better and comparatively the thief look worse by giving it back. Solid move honestly. He can probably just clean the cameras too.", "This dude just has a vengeance chip on his shoulder and wants to see maximum punishment. \n\nThat's why he can't comprehend the extra layer of shame of having your wife count out $1,400 in cash, hand it to the guy who your husband stole from, then to have the guy hand the money back and say you need it more. Denying her the ability to try and make amends, and instead leaves them looking like they were in need of the charity. Rural folks hate the idea of people thinking they are in need of charity.", "No one seems to have addressed why theft is a problem in this country. People's material needs aren't met, and that has devastating social consequences.", "If there were black people in the video, it wouldn’t be white America now would it?", "People who are trying to hide their money from bank levies absolutely have a lot of cash on hand", "I'm saying to deter you from committing crimes period.", "Someone should post a video titled \"Millennial urban snowflake...\" And watch how fast it would be removed. Insults are only allowed to flow one direction here in Reddit.", "The irony that as someone who grew up in a redneck family, I'd call a guy who has a youtube channel about trucks and three compound bows a redneck too.", "They probably aren’t even broken - just have spray paint.", "Instead of picking himself up by his bootstraps he probably just stole someone elses.", "The guy making the video is pretty insufferable. I mean it sucks that his stuff got stolen and that dude should be in jail, but I kind of can't stand this youtuber either.", "How do you know he's a 'lifetime' thief?", "No, I'd make it pay for it.", "I don't think he will take a look at himself because he still didn't own up the theft being his fault. He blamed being drunk/pills, that's still not taking responsibility so I would guess he's not showing remorse.", "It's a racist and ageist insult, how is it not the same?", "> blaming the medication and the alcohol\n\nAdd that to the list of charges the cops should be piling on regardless of what Whistlin' Diesel dude says. Guy says he was drunk on pills driving a car with no plates (that never had plates) on the public roads, while stealing several thousand dollars of equipment and goods after vandalizing thousands in equipment. This is not an \"Oh no, I'm sorry\" kinda thing. This is a \"straight to jail\" kinda thing.\n\n\nI also found it suspicious the guy closed the other garage/barn when the cops were there in the first place, but when they come back with the warrant, all the items are in the normal garage and they seemingly never go into the one he closed off before. Did he confess to this theft to stop them looking further?", "Hey now he probably needed to buy some meth", "He claims he was.", "No, I'm not saying keep the money. This guy is obviously comfortable. He probably steals stuff worth that much multiple times a year. He has his process down. I'm saying press charges and remind this man with a nice house and family how much it sucks to sit in a jail cell for 3 months if he keeps stealing stuff.", "Imagine thinking someone like this has shame.", "*bites tongue", "He may have told him, off camera, that he could keep the money, if he allowed him to show his face on his video.", "Check out Andrew Camarata my dude. His videos feel the exact same despite his channel becoming wildly successful. Great content of a dude just tinkering with shit and solving problems on his own property and other properties he maintains.", "TL:DW.\n\nBut why did the video creator put like a dozen air tags on the ATV instead of one (or maybe two) actual cellular based GPS trackers? Would have cost the same or less, and been much more effective.", "What a weird position you’ve decided to plant your flag. His wife has like nothing to do with this at all. She clearly has no idea what’s going on here.", "So you're saying that the dispatch knew his skin color through the phone call? You do know how dumb this sounds, right?", "That's not how racism works, and ageism is not at all the same as racism.", "He very clearly insisted he *wasn't* going to sell it, though. The dude's a compulsive liar even after being caught.", "Yeah I am guessing you have dealt with a narcissist in your life and those excuses follow the same pattern", "Ah, this showed up in your YT recommendations too huh? lol", "That’s only because he did the cops’ work for them.", "You mean horribly divisive and anger inducing title. It's not good, just good at painting a narrative that people here like.", "Ahhh Whistlin’ Diesel. Despite disagreeing on him with all social issues, and shedding a tear every time he destroys a nice truck, i cant help but watch his videos religiously", "this is the youtube link, not a reupload. what are you on about?", "Maximum punishment would be pressing charges.\n\nReplacing damaged property is *the least* he should be expected to do.\n\nBut please get on your high horse about the \"honor of rural people\".", "Yeah the ability to have multiple $600 cameras ruined and expensive shit stolen, and not take money or press charges is unbelievable to me. If someone stole my computer I wouldn't recover lmao.", "Lucky thieving neighbour wasn’t black.", "What is a redneck?", "Yes he just wanted his stuff back and mentioned several times during the video.", "**Redneck is a derogatory term chiefly, but not exclusively, applied to white Americans perceived to be crass and unsophisticated, closely associated with rural whites of the Southern United States. Its meaning stems from the sunburn found on farmers' necks dating back to the late 19th century.**\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck> \n\n\n\n*This comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!*\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "I have a feeling the wife already knew about her husband's 'kleptomania.' She's just claiming plausible deniability, in my jaded view.", "Great video, but I hate this trend of 300% volume randomly in videos", "Well bless your heart if you believe that", "What an excellent video. I’ve never heard of this guy before. The story was compelling, the editing spot-on, and his personality is inviting and engaging. Watched the whole thing, which is rare for me considering the vast majority of content I’ve seen.", "There’s a lot of people here with justice boners clouding their judgment. In a small town like this (where everyone watches this kid’s videos) it won’t be long before everyone knows what the thief did. The embarrassment and social ostracism will likely sting much worse than whatever judicial punishment was likely to occur if chargers were pressed (especially if he’s a first-time offender). The youtuber handing the wife money is just insult to injury for the thief.", "He’d have to get *caught* stealing multiple times before ending up in jail, and if he’s still stealing that much, he’s going to get caught again anyway by definition.", "No. You missed the dumbest part. He spray painted the cameras AFTER THE FACT! lol", "Cause he is white.", "idk, that guy had 4 cars, huge house and even bigger property. \n\nCan't imagine his \"material needs\" weren't met. \n\nI really think the line is just too easy to cross, since everybody lacks respect for their fellow citizens. It seems the overall vibe of americans is \"fuck everyone, except the 3 people who live in your house\"", "Kinda grew up in these types of towns. So yeah, it's a different walk of life. Believe what you will.", "Isn't the idea that narcissists can only feel shame and never guilt? This is only a problem because he was caught otherwise he would never have thought about it again. Shame is from society, guilt is from within. Boomers just happen to have suffered a narcissism epidemic.", "I think you meant subjective.", "Wow how rude", "Millions of people work really hard and only just survive from paycheck to paycheck. A good work ethic doesn't automatically mean anyone has cash to spare.", ">semi-rural\n\nSo school quality generally (and I mean very generally) goes out like rings around cities. In the center is the city proper, which has terrible schools. The next ring are the immediate suburbs, which generally have ok schools (nothing fancy). The next ring are the semi-rural towns where, again generally, the D/V/C level folks live. Those schools are usually top notch. Once you are past that, however, the quality of schooling falls off as you get into the more manual labor farm and factory towns. Blue collar towns generally have a school outcomes of those in the second ring. Ok, but not great. \n\nThe problem with those schools is not necessarily the grades or graduation rates. It's when the towns people fight tooth and nail to keep somewhat racist mascots or fill their town Facebook pages and breakfast joints with \"oh, it's *those* people coming in from the cities and rummaging through cars\" or \"ugh we don't need that <insert ugly term here> Indian restaurant\" (and other really awful things).\n\nSo while the kid in the immediate suburb and the kid in the rural farm town may end up with the same SAT score, one is going to have a much narrower world view.\n\nAs always there are exceptions to this rule (adjacency to major metro areas, etc) but if you cherry pick a city with a population < 1,000,000 people, it'll probably be close to this formula.", "She knew he had the stuff. She maybe didn't know how he got it, but she knew.", "Yeah, he comes across as a rambling egotistical tool. I couldn't watch for more than a few minutes. I'm not sure how so many people here thought more than 20 mins of that was a good use of their time.", "He admitted to a DUI and the sheriffs were just like... \"yeah, that's cool...\"", "And the \"you need this more than I do\" fuck you of giving back $1400 is perfect.", "Yep I think even inherently, we all know not to touch each other's shit. It's primal.", "Huh, when I do it I sleep for 12 hours. I must be doing it wrong.", "2nd greatest.", "Exactly, he clearly steals for the enjoyment of it out of boredom from his existing success", "Thanks for the links! *Wanders off to spend another hour or two in the youtube rabbit hole.*", "cocky and arrogant he looked when commuting those crimes and at his gate. Coward at the end", "You ever try to get spray paint off a lens or the flash? It's basically impossible and ruins the shutter as well.\n\nNot fixable.", "I have finished pooping. Thanks for the entertainment.", "Most liberals I know aren't necessarily \"Biden Supporters\". They're Bernie, Yang, Warren supporters that didn't have a choice. We don't worship a president as an infallible God-King and *do* call them out when they come up short.", "i just said that she doesn't know about it. My position isn't weird, you just misunderstand it.", "That was the only time this guy has put on a mask all year.", "Im pretty sure he gave the money back because the wife was mortified by her husband's shitty behavior. He was pretty clearly not having that guy's bullshit when he was trying to make his pain pill excuses. \n\nI think he felt bad for her, not him.\n\nAlso, it's kind of a flex. \"I don't really need the money, but you clearly do, so keep it.\"", "Salesperson here. I can't count the number of redneck looking guys who come into my dealership wearing torn to hell jeans and a ratty shirt, pick out a brand new Elite Pilot or Odyssey for their wife ($50,000 + another three or so grand in TTF) and then either stroke a personal check or pay in actual cash currency.\n\nStupidity and poor credit management can be independent of socio-economic status. I vs had to tell Doctors that their credit sucked so badly that I couldn't get the deal financed without a huge down payment.", "Nothing made the thief feel worse about himself than when he did that", "> took the plate off his vehicle.\n\nHe says the vehicle doesn't have a plate. So for those keeping track, his excuse for stealing was he was drunk/high driving an unregistered vehicle on public roads, saw the opportunity and broke into a storage container and took what he wanted.", "Your jaded view is understandable. People are shit.", "Dude, I was a dumb kid once but I never went around stealing tailgates and compound bows. This guy is just a scumbag.", "\"If those crates didn't want to get stolen why were they dressed so sexy.\"", "I thought about that too, but \"pain pills\" could apply to ibuprofen and he only admitted to drinking \"a beer\" which I doubt is enough to put you over the legal limit. And they have no timeline on when he took it, so they just don't have enough to get him on that.\n\nDriving without a license plate on the other hand...", "And driving a car with no plates over the road.", "You know how many times I’ve taken a shitload of drugs? A lot of times. You know how many times I’ve stolen while high? None of the times. \n\nPSA: Don’t do drugs, kids. Adults, do drugs responsibly. Everyone, don’t steal.", "I mean, it could have been a \"left on the side of the road, free to take\" thing", "Well yeah. Don’t want to charge the white good old boy who said he’s sorry.", "More like just the cost of some acetone to remove the fresh paint. Those outdoor cameras are robust and water proof. Would be pretty silly to throw them away when you could easily remove the paint with solvent.\n\nI haven't heard anyone mention the most damaging cost yet. This youtuber is obviously incredibly popular in the local area. Every local is going to post and share this video. Now everyone in this back woods town is going to know this old fuck is a thief. The bar he frequents, the gas station he uses, the grocery store he shops in. They are all going to know this man is a certified piece of shit. No amount of money in the world is as valuable as exposing his ass to every person in a 100 mile radius who will be looking at him when something comes up missing. This guy is going to be digitally tarred and feathered.", "Oh no! He sinned?!", "I’m wearing a mask and I took the tags off my car, because I have every intention of stealing this.", "You really should have used that by now.", "It died as a warrior… as in dropped a thousand feet from a helicopter.", "I saw 20+ mins and didn’t want to watch the whole thing but was suddenly invested", "Oh fuck, you're one of those \"can't be racist against whites\" morons, aren't you?\n\nShit was obviously racist.", "Most likely, he got paid by Apple to have those featured in the video.", "This guy looks like Onision", "It's still an open platform here, so you're welcome to post a rebuttal.\n\nI just have a feeling it'll be a whole paragraph that can be summed up with the phrase, \"but muh narrative\".", "Yeah, I imagine that they can be refurbishing.", "I haven't heard anyone mention the most damaging cost yet. This youtuber is obviously incredibly popular in the local area. Every local is going to post and share this video. Now everyone in this back woods town is going to know this old fuck is a thief. The bar he frequents, the gas station he uses, the grocery store he shops in. They are all going to know this man is a certified piece of shit. No amount of money in the world is as valuable as exposing his ass to every person in a 100 mile radius who will be looking at him when something comes up missing. This guy is going to be digitally tarred and feathered.", "Don't break anything on your way out.", "That's typical of almost every YouTuber with success, it almost always affects the content", "He did have to pay. He paid for the cameras, he fulfilled his obligation. The fact that the guy who was stolen from gave the money back doesn’t unfulfill that obligation and it doesn’t meant justice wasn’t served by them having to pay. Justice and mercy can happen at the same time.", "Wow so brave", "I get the feeling if this was a poor, black guy this would have gone a hell of a lot differently", "1st time watching one of his videos. Out of curiosity, how does he afford all of the toys?", "This was not a drunk on pills plan.\n\nHe scoped it out, spotted the cameras, came back with spray paint, removed his license plate, and hid everything.\n\nThey should have told the YouTuber guy that were going to arrest him anyway, it's not really up to the owner of the stuff whether he get arrested. And the YouTuber guy is really naive to believe his sob story.", "lol I guess if it's moronic to look at words historically instead of in a vacuum because it lets me justify crying wolf, then sure.", ">Redneck boomer\n\nDon't use the actions of one person to attack an entire demographic of people. You sound like a bigot.", "That is a fair point!", "It’s easier to get ahead professionally when you’re willing to steal things here or there. There’s lots of business owners who have been able to outcompete others and become very successful because they’re reducing costs with thefts and fraud", "Wait wait wait, he said sorry and got to keep some money?! Money he wouldn't have gotten if he didn't steal in the first place?! Wtf kind of lesson is that?!", "He funded it off of debt", "Thank you sweetheart.", "Cool", "Does...does it...smell bad at your place?", "Then why do you choose to ignore that historically \"thug\" has absolutely nothing to do with skin color?", "Take the money and buy something nice for the Wife, She probably doesn't get shit compared to the Husband and what he steals.", "How about you just don’t steal from people? And don’t act like a b**** when you get caught.", "So you think I'm a theif?", "Yeah - in this situation, the kid doled out far more than the law could have.", "The guy getting his stuff back is a class act, but I would've never shook that thief's hand.", "As a crime or wrongful act, no. But there's an added level of sadism and sociopathy to it when it's people you'll see often and share a community with.", "The police and DA tried their absolute best to protect Ahmaud Arbery’s murderers, if the DA who perjured herself hadn’t been defeated in her election they would have succeeded.", "Because that's not true. Maybe it was at one point but things change.", "His parents aren’t rich", "What does his generation have to do with it?", "Jesus people, calm the fuck down. Everyone talking about how the old man should have been arrested and shit.\n\nEverything worked out just fine in the end\n\nAlso, keep in mind, this is a super famous YouTuber, who all but drug the old man to court himself. And the cops still barely did the right thing.\n\nThis type of justice doesn't happen for anyone but the wealthy and well known.\n\nFinally, I found it funny that the guy who has the larges tkibster truck with 6 train horns on it. Thinks his neighbours are stupid and that's why he's moving. It's clearly not his fault 🤣🤣\n\nObviously barring the thefts part. That's shity no matter who you are.", "Anyone know what state that’s in?", "I saw it as just another way for him to drive home the point that “I’m a better person than you.” And I applaud him for it. \n\nThere’s no version of this story the thief can tell where he’s not the bad guy. Dude didn’t press charges, and he had the cash *in his hand* before giving it back. \n\nI can’t say I would have been so gracious about the whole situation.", "Dude, pick a fucking lane.", "If I meant subjective, I wouldve said subjective.", "You live in a society. We live amongst a collection of individuals who are taught a superhero Christ mentality from birth. Everyone here is the most important person in the world.", "He did it because the wife looked so upset hanging it over to him. He felt bad for HER", "Wonder if the cop was thinking \"You were drinking and abusing scrips while driving over to this kid's property?!? Damn it, Bobby, now I gotta run ya in for DWI.\"", "that's what pisses me off, dude just gets to go about his day now and go back to drinking with his buddies.", "Except this is an instance of white people calling the police on their neighbors and the police just letting them decide what to do between each other. \n\nSo? How is that relevant?", "YOU FUCKING PRESS CHARGES. What the actual fuck?! Scumbags like this need to be in prison. Listening to him try to make excuses like he fucking feels bad about it. He doesn’t feel bad. He’s ashamed he got caught. He’s going to run off and brag to his friend about how stupid you are for not pressing charges and he got off scot free. Bro like what the actual fuck. You’re not being the bigger person by not pressing charges. It’s privileged old conservative white pieces of shit like this that are ruining the country. Absolutely guarantee he thinks he’s a good Christian and 100% guarantee he voted for Trump. Fuck him.", "This is the dumbest part by far.", "Yeah and half the people I know still live in them. Shame doesn't stop a damn thing", "Indiana is gonna Indiana man.", "That's a pretty specific and accurate use of post hoc; not common in general conversation. take an upvote.", "It was more of a polite correction than a real suggestion for you.", "Once words take on certain connotations they're hard to dislodge. There is no social system in which white people were subjugated by black people for being white.", "I like the way the guy who got his stuff stolen acted. He got all his evidence, told the cops, didn't go in there with guns blazing demanding his stuff back. He felt bad for the wife. He was very very smart and was very methodical. Actually very kind. There's a lotta hot heads out there. He was great. \n\nOh yeah, that thief is a sniveling excuse for a man.", "Young guy has 2 and a half million YouTube subscribers.\n\nCurrent Google search says he's worth worth ~1.8 million\n\nOld thief has a fair amount of property and assets, but it probably came from family and decades of labor. Sounds like he's blaming the behavior on drugs/alcohol because of money troubles.\n\nEdit:\nGot it guys. He has more subs and more money than a quick Google search states. Put the pitchforks down", "The DA can charge him even if the YouTuber doesn’t.", "Yeah man go back to wherever you came from. I would hate to have you as a neighbor too", "I would’ve pressed charges. He stole it because he thought he would get away. He is going to steal someone else’s things because technically he did get away with a crime.", "Also, I have a feeling he has ripped off other neighbors. IMO the spray painting of the cameras demonstrates this was not an impulsive one-time thing.", "My brother watches all this guys videos. That was worth the whole 20 min", "That was when the guy gave back the money the thief was paying for the ruined cameras. The YouTuber said \"I have enough money, I just wanted my stuff back.\"", "My bad man, I thought I typed out the rest of that comment lol\n\nI think it's a combination of people's material needs not being met, but also this is the result of putting profit over people. And this guy's case, sounds like he's a pill billy, in which case he's definitely been affected by our lack of regulation concerning the pharmaceutical industry.\n\nAnd you totally hit the nail in the head, America definitely has a \"Fuck you, I got mine!\" attitude, and it's ruining us.", "Loser broke down immediately.", "There were a number of reasons he could have given it back, my thought is that not taking it was a kind of power play; like nothing bad is officially happening to you, but you don't get to make yourself feel like you've done the right thing by paying reparations", "ahmumbarrasst", "The comment you were responding to was talking about the ytubers behavior, not the cops. My point is that black neighbors avoid bringing down the heavy hammer of state justice too.", "\"There's no excuse......\"\n\nContinues to list off his excuses and reasoning.", "Sure, it's not racist but see how they treat the well off white guy. Now imagine it's a much worse home with a black man. \n\nYou think the black guy would get the privilege of waiting in his home whole the police get a warrant? Because police certainly had probable cause to detain him at that point but opted not to.\n\nYours is the definition of white privilege. \"Oh it's just a small town thing\" but if it's a black neighbor, let's see if they get treated as equally.", "I was as hard of an addict as one could be for a decade (heroin mainly but also lots of meth and crack) and I never once stole from a person. Fuck this dude. Personal theft is terrible and I had every excuse in the book and didn’t do it so I don’t give a fuck about his wittle pain pills and beer excuse he just fucking sucks", "That’s not what’s going on here though. There’s a mentality in America that you can take whatever you can get away with and it’s not just about stealing tangible goods and money. Our society feeds off itself on all levels. Not unique to America but we do it better. \n\nPersonal ex. I live in an expensive city where rent is not cheap. I have my packages stolen frequently. Not from my front door but from a package room with security access—meaning only my neighbors can be stealing from me.", "What pissed me off is how much stuff and property the thief already had. Dudes out there living quite well and just goes out and robs his neighbors for shit he could probably just buy himself. Awful man.", "I’m guessing he just wants to leave the world a slightly better place. Incarceration and punishment may not lead to a better outcome in the long run.", "Working in Lost prevention watching people shop years ago I would say 90% of theft was from well off people just getting off. \n\nI watched a woman known in my area for being a business owner and wearing very expensive clothing and pocketing candy bars at a grocery store. It's dumb.", "Never thought I would have seen whislin diesel on the front page of Reddit videos. Check out his other content to see the salty tears of squatted truck owners.", "I really doubt Apple would sponsor this kind of content.", "Pardon, some hwat?", "Then he gets humiliated by the young millionaire next door", "I wonder who the boomer voted for...", "Isn’t it a waste of law enforcement’s time if he drags them into this, makes this come out and bust the guy, and take up a bunch of police time… and then he doesn’t even press charges? \n\nIt seems to me like pressing charges would validate the time spent by the police and detectives, who had to stop fighting other crimes or patrolling to gather evidence and bust this idiot neighbor.", "Actually it was talking about the nature of punishment and what’s fitting, and my response was that this is only even an option for white people in America when police are involved. \n\nGlad to clear that up", "And he told his buddies about the hit? Then try to say they were talking about something unrelated and it happened to come up. That's when the cameras were brought to his attention.", "He blamed his actions on pills and booze", "the redneck is gonna get shot by the guy in the future when he breaks into his house. Wont blame the youtuber at all...", "> power play\n\nGotta agree with you on that one.", "Wow, you really are one of those nut jobs who thinks you can't be racist to whites.", "You should probably be correct before you try to correct someone.", "You think he believed the sob story? He didn't care at all about his story. He was already planning on letting it all go for internet points. And yeah, it is up to the owner if they want to press charges or not.", "He grew up on a small farm, he made it all himself through YouTube", "It can be used as an insult but a lot people from \"redneck\" areas are self-proclaimed rednecks.", "Not unreasonable to think they could. It's a selling point to buying the air tags.", "It wasn't, but sure you can make it about that if you want. But while that relationship famously exists between non-white people and cops in cities and sometimes small towns, that is not a regularly observed relationship between cops and black people living on huge plots of land in the sticks.", "No, at least around here you can live out in the country but all the good paying jobs are in the high end suburbs and major cities. It's a 2 or 3 hour drive one way. My grandmother used to start driving to work at 4am to get to her job by 7am, and didn't make it home most nights until 8 or 9 in the evening.\n\nShe loved living in the country though, far from nosey neighbors and loud obnoxious people.", "is it? Because that sounds like how corruption works in a third world country.", "Plus Apple specifically doesn't want the tags used for this purpose, that's why they have anti-stalking features built in. It's meant for lost items not stolen ones. ~~If the thief didn't live so close this might not have worked.~~", "Okay", "when this was posted yesterday, someone was claiming the guy is a pretty ardent and vocal antivaxxer on his channel? I don't know anything about him but this vid's conclusion was pretty satisfying to watch.", "Yeah, I don't know wh I'm trying to reason out why this guy did this. Some people just are shitty and they like to steal.\n\nAnd as a black American, I can't help but wonder how the situation would have played out had the thief been black. \n\nI feel confident this thread would have been locked already lol", "Should've charged him. This isn't some poor person trying to survive, and he will do it again.", "The guy had no money and was working construction a few years ago. He made a YouTube channel and it blew up. Dude doesn’t have rich parents", "Now ask him how he describes non-white people who steal things, and how *they* should be treated.", "I feel in that moment, watching another man handing my wife back the money that I owed after I got caught red handed stealing…That would destroy me. After all the cameras and cops were gone, I’d walk in the home, pack my personal items. Call my attorney to motion a file for divorce and ask my wife to move on and enjoy a better life without me in it. Id give her access to my funds if I had a personal account for bills and the like. I’d let her know where I’d be for lawyer reasons, but after the quick divorce, would ask her to please not find me.\n\nI’d rather be garbage alone than drag someone else down.", "Horrible ending. Fuck the generosity. This guy is a criminal. He's not stealing food too feed his family. He's stealing and he's rich.", "Right, for the reason I just stated.", "He didn’t need to press charges or the money, he took justice in the perfect way.\n\nHe ruined the thief’s reputation by exposing his character.", "Yes", "Lol no. Apple rarely sponsors things and he does not make content that they would ever sponsor.", "What kind of a twisted cock-sucking mouth frother says shit like this?", "Pointless semantics.\n\nFor all practical purposes, no. He did not pay for them.", "You're a wannabe victim. And you will be all your life.", "Nah, nothing to cope with here. Nothing a mere statement can help with. I'm fortunate enough to have traveled many regions of the US. I prefer home. And the weather...well sometimes it sucks, like anywhere. But I do get to see 4 seasons. Winter is great because I love the snow and the cold isn't much of a bother with the right gear. Also having the infrastructure to deal with it, helps so much! Summer is the best. Lakes are amazing and plenty of outdoor activities. Our city is a decent size, but not too crowded. Can't be too small since we have professional sports teams and a great lake. We all have our own experiences that we can look back on and I prefer the Midwest. And if that upsets you, well, I'll sit back on the deck with my coffee or beer and chill out watching the wildlife. Cheers to you.", "There are still Trump 2020 flags on houses near me. But you're right, it's very cringe.", "jesus christ", "So hilarious listening to him try and lie.\n\n\"Well, I saw all this stuff in his yard with no \"for sale\" sign and I just figured it was abandoned.\"\n\nDude learned to lie when he was 4 and just never improved the skill.", "The hot tub counts as a half bathroom, at least.", "my justice boner is untethered and knows no bounds!!!", "Do you enjoy ice fishing? I enjoy ice fishing and I bet you do too!", "I stopped watching when that POS was apologizing… guy has been full of shit his whole life. Anything he has was inherited or stolen. Should have pressed charges.", "The dude makes videos that are like trainwrecks. Terrible stuff but you can't look away.\n\nHis property is probably going to be a superfund site one day with the amount of shit they spill all over it.", "If you brag about your gun collection, that becomes the thing to steal. Gun thieves already break into pawn stores with stolen construction equipment.", "He was embarrassed that he got caught, not that he stole. What a scumbag.", "Are you talking about the victim of theft?", "Probably his daddy’s house…", "That's what [Ken McElroy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Broad_Daylight_(book)) did almost his entire life. He made a lot of money fast that way and they could never sufficiently prove his crimes, even though everyone knew he did it. Though that was before security cameras.", "My dumb kid activity was trespassing everywhere but I never damaged anything or took anything. Just climbed water towers, grain bins, abandoned power plants, etc.", "whistlin diesel is the man.\n\nHis videos are just epic\n\nHe destroys 250K trucks for lolz to give some context.", "Dude. You alright? That was heartbreaking to read just as a what if....", "To secretly track items you know will be in someone else’s procession? That’s actually the exact press they’re trying to avoid with this product right now.", "Do you not know how husband and wives income works?", "\"Why isn't this stuff secured? Doesn't he know there are thieves around here? He deserves to have it stolen. It's like he's giving it away. It's like I have permission to take it. I should be charging a removal fee.\"\n\nThat's how the rationalization goes in their heads. By the time they're done, they think they're doing the victim a favor.", "That's where the money is from lol", "Even as a wild ass kid, I did not steal.", "I don't get how some people are being understanding of that thief, dude sprayed a camera and came back to steal someone's stuff. It definitely wasn't his first stealing things, he was caught red handed, dude said he wanted an apology or he would press charges, he had proof and the search warranty also shown that he was right, that thief had nothing else to do but plead for his own life. Pathetic, he won't learn his lesson as well.", "Yeah but if he's doing this shit.. What kinda terrible things did he do to get all that nice stuff?", "I can’t fucking believe he didn’t press chargers. He is an even bigger idiot for not. This is the exact type of person that probably complains how lazy and entitled millennials are, or how he doesn’t want his tax dollars to pay for someone else’s welfare, or some other ageist, racist, sexist talking conservatives continuously try to push. Yet he has absolutely no problem stealing because he thinks someone he’s earned it? You’re a fucking fool if you think this is the first time he’s done something like this. And then he tries to justify it somehow by blaming it on his pills and alcohol? Nope. This motherfucker is a complete scumbag and deserves to be in prison.", "You're talking like someone who only knows America through Reddit posts.", "He'd already made his money off them because he knew he was going to post the footage.", "“There’s no excuse for it”\n\n-Proceeds to do nothing but make excuses for why he stole", "I'd bet hard money that the old dudes opioid addiction is driving every action of that boomer. He even admits it but he's too stubborn to admit he's an addict. His wife knows this and turns a blind eye to all the recent expensive shit he randomly brings home to his \"shop\" because she doesn't want him flying off the handle in a rage.", "its a felony for sure, you would be gettin fucked pretty good. this guy here could have had a felony if he pressed charges and he was generous enough to not do that.", "This kid is way way way too nice.\n\nI would have taken my stuff and told the cops to lock his ass up.", "This is 100% the kind of shit I'd do if I was rich as shit. I would go above and beyond to make things like this right. It's not about the skid loader, it's about the disrespect and the shit act of someone stealing something from you.", "> This dude also tried to say it was a spur of the moment type thing, saw a “sale” sign, and thought it was abandoned.\n\nNow imagine 6 months prior you are at this dude's house watching an episode of Cops with him. Police in some big city are called out to Wal-Mart on a shoplifting call. A black dude about his age is trying to tell cops he saw the sale sign and thought Wal-Mart didn't need all that beer anyways, so maybe it was abandoned\". Loss prevention has him on video looking directly at the camera and then shoving 4 tall boys in his pants.\n\nI'm sure this dude would be REAL understanding in that situation.", "Right? I had trouble finding sympathy for the guy who just spent more than half of the video bragging about all of the expensive stuff he has. Gee, I wonder how he became a target for theft?\n\nEDIT: Ah shit, should have known better criticizing a youtube \"celebrity\" on reddit.", "I'm more bothered by tornadoes than winter", "What are white people?", "Ive been on pills, ive been drunk, ive been on pills drunk. Not proud of it, but i am proud my heart isnt a racist thief.\n\nPills are not an excuse to be an ugly person. This guy, Rosanne Barr...fuck all y'all. Alcohol and Pills just remove your inhibitions which conceal your truths.", "Right, this person is 100% assuming all of that - stick to facts and you'll be better off", "He literally bought their soul with that. He bodied them.", "The DA can charge suspects (or not) regardless of what actions the victims want. In this case the investigators asked the victim what he wanted, but they aren’t required to.", "None of the tagged stuff got stolen. He set it up after the initial steal. He just happened to drive by the thief's house and recognized the cars parked in the yard before anyone got around to stealing the tagged stuff.", "Not just that though. The you tuber is well off so the money doesn't matter. He did it to shame the guy. Giving the money back was an excellent touch. Dude will never, ever live that down. And that is a punishment far better than arrest.", "White privilege. Downvote me.", "I watched this just last night easily one of the best and most satisfying “busted!” Videos ever made. \n \nAnd he got $1400 compensation for cameras he’ll just wipe the paint off of, lol.", "That or hes a kleptomaniac.\n\nSome people dont need to steal, they just have no self control and want to do it for the thrill.", "\"Someone stole my salt shaker and I'm putting out a $700K reward for whoever finds it\"", "Yeah for real. I did all the drugs but my drug of choice was opiates. I was a pos and made terrible choices but I never stole anything from anyone. Not friends, family, strangers, dealers, or even enemies. And there was always opportunity and I grew up in a rural place very similar to what's in the video. Lots of abandoned houses or properties and lots of elderly and the thought of stealing never crossed my mind. Lots of friends or dealers would be passing out when doing drugs together, leaving their stash out or I'd know where they keep it. I never stole anything. I figured I could still be a good person even if I was an addict, I could be a moral or ethical addict. I've even given people money back if they paid me too much for smoke, after they drove off and I counted again and realized they gave me an extra twenty, call em back and turn around, or I'll give it to you next time I see you. I still had my conscience and still wanted desperately to be a good person. \n\nI'm doing much better now and am so grateful that even though I lost so much and sacrificed my future for short term gratification, that I never sacrificed my morals.", "Yeah this is why Gun Man is a superhero in USA. He should have eaten lead for this sort of shit.", "\"I've seen your videos on Facebook\"\n\nGuy was jelly.", "I would have pressed charges. People like him need to face the consequences of their actions.", "working retail you learn that the majority of theft is a matter of opportunity not necessity.\n\nso many people tried pulling out wads of cash, asking if they could go ahead and pay.", "How do people distort the definition of racism as badly as you do so you can justify using it against others while claiming you're not being racist?\n\nIf you're holding negative views about someone, or treating them different in a negative way, simply because of the color of their skin, you're a racist, plain and simple.", "Really it's just about distance and making sure you're upwind of it as much as possible.", "His neighbors are down wind from the pile, he doesn’t smell a thing.", "I love that the guy gets to say he took pain pills and drank in front of cops and nothing happens. What a tw*\n\nEdit: really wish utube dude woulda been like “ooooh yeah not supposed to mix those” without skipping a beat. Gold.", "Biden's sentences tend to be related to his job though, not just vague bullshitty campaign bollocks 'to rile up his base'.", "Considering that his videos all get 2 million+ views, he probably makes $100k a month", "They don’t. They’re projecting their own assumptions just like the thing they’re bitching about.", "Thieves are the lowest of the low. They are only ever sorry after they get caught. Tell your story walkin' buddy.", "I wanna vomit thinking about all the money I've spent to live in a shit hole like Los Angeles for ten fucking years. Literally enough to buy a gorgeous 5 bedroom house anywhere else. Stupid fucking film industry.", "Right? Next time old boy there walks into the co-op you just *know* Jim behind the counter is going to give him shit for this video. \"Hey Earl, I don't need to follow you around...make sure you don't take nothing, do I?\"", "He might be over his head i debt. Since he has no impulse control, why wouldn't he.", "> He just owned him dude it was not about the money it was about the principle.\n\nI thought the principle was to fuck the thief\n\nHe literally said his dream since he was a child was to fuck over anyone who stole from him\n\nLies, all lies!", "[This is my favorite video on the subject.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkgX4V2CwD4)", "I have huge respect for this kid. I loved when he said he wasn’t worried about his stolen stuff bc he a,ways gets it back. This kid is the type that makes sh*t happen, rather than sitting back and whining. He set up a sting, he found the guy. But he was also hella respectful to EVERYONE involved. \n\nFinally, he was interested in pressing charges. He just wanted his stuff back. More people like him!", "This was one key portion of the infrastructure bill in the US - to make internet better in more rural areas.\n\nBetween than and LEO based satellite internet, i think urban to rural migrations will be made easier for tech workers.", "Andrew is a good dude and I don't think he even cares about the fame. He hasn't changed despite the success. His own collection has just gotten bigger. Although I wish he would buy himself a nicer pickup lol", "So you're saying animals that died of natural / unnatural causes are getting turned into dog food? I'm assuming days after passing?\n\nBruh.", "I mentioned this in another post in another subreddit, but isn’t this the same person that road raged on film and “rolled coal” at them?", "Atleast it was only like a 30 damn minute video. Cut that cut that", "love people who assume someone uses small smaple sizes, from a single interaction", "In other words, you want to hold the word in a vacuum to justify crying wolf, just like I said.", "Yeah, every one of those cops will be talking about this to their buddies for ages", "And these are the people who will be the first ones to see a black man and automatically issue he stole something", "This happened where I live a couple days ago. Two people were found on someone's property trying to steal stuff and one of them got shot. Guy ends up being shot in the leg. Told the homeowner to aim high next time.", "She is 100% aware of what her husband is doing and is a big part of the con. Her look of shock is designed to help sell the lie, but she’s composed throughout the whole thing and works with her husband to save face.\n\nYou honestly don’t think she noticed her husband coming home with all that stuff? She could have told the cops the second they started asking about the stolen property, but she didn’t. Hmmm.", "So they leave you free money essentially? Or you charge $75?\n \nDo you serve gourmet coffee and not that freeze dried* tasters choice?", "Exactly. Dude needs to be locked up. He's essentially suffering zero consequences for his crimes.", "No likes you", "\"The monster never sees a monster in the mirror.\" Such is the human psyche and default self-image. What an asshole.", "He's a better man than I am. I would have had him charged. Can't stand a thief.", "No, they don't feel shame. They just have to wiggle a situation around to where they're the victim and need your attention and sympathy, not the person they did something to.\n\nIn their world, every decision they make is the right one. If there were a better decision, obviously they would have made it. So when they're under intense scrutiny they have to reshape the narrative to show that obviously they did the only thing they could do given how stacked the situation was against them.\n\nAnd the true victim doesn't even exist, the entire situation is to now make you feel bad for them and forget you were mad at what they did. \n\nEvery time.\n\nEdit: true narcissist or not, we'll just call this affliction \"asshole\" as we all know someone like this. It doesn't matter what clinical name it is, they're an asshole and they're not good people.", "I feel like there is an element of helping promote change in the criminal that giving the money back helps with. \n\n\nThe criminal probably still harbours resentment even through his \"apology\", and still sees the victim as \"an enemy\". But when the victim hands the money back, I think it defuses those thoughts. \n\n\nAlso, would this YT'er need permission to show the criminal's face when he's filming him on his own private property?", "Good point. disregard that last sentence.", "They tried that before and republicans wouldn't budge on the enforcement language, so democrats removed it. predictably, the companies that were give money in return to expand their infrastructure just kept the money.", "Couple of things I noticed. The house is small and older but he has outbuildings, an RV and a few vehicles. To me that is someone who has worked in a field for a very long time and worked their way up a blue collar ladder. His income steadily rose instead of skyrocketing which is why he is still in the house he and his wife bought before they had kids.\n\nThe outbuildings could be built on as he could afford them, same with the RV. He didn't get a raise and decide it was time to live the McMansion lifestyle in the burbs or even build a big fancy barnduminium on acreage.\n\nThen again, money is so cheap to borrow right now that if he had a good job with a solid work history and owned the house, he could get as much as he wanted toy wise.", "Never heard him saying anything like this, but haven't watched all his videos. Just like watching him trash stuff, and trigger people. Lol.\n\nHe just gives at least one of his friends a hard time. It seems only as a joke, but it's kind of a \"ha I've got loads of money and you don't\" vibe", "definitely not a life long criminal, just a total piece of shit. he likely did make some good or lucky choices to land himself a good career, but also has always been a dishonest piece of shit and a horrible husband.", "He was clearly spilling all the beans at this point. All an officer had to do was ask one or two casual clarifying questions and he would have certainly further incriminated himself. As for the timeline it's all on tape. Those cameras have timestamps.", "I'd hardly call it a small amount of money, shit I wish I had a spare $1400 lying around.", "it seems like everyone knows it, but is too scared to change. Dont get me wrong, i dont have a solution either", "I get it. The only time I question it is if I have 0% available. Seriously, folks, if you're buying the car and have true 0% on offer, take it. Put the money in a stable investment account and make a profit on it. The manufacturer is literally lending you money for the car, for free. If you're concerned about the payments, there are investment accounts where you can set up an amount to auto-withdraw every month. Set up a separate bill pay account with your bank, set up the auto loan to withdraw from the new checking account, and just have the investment account autodeposit into that checking account every month.", "You think people become socialist politicians because of jealousy? \n\nDon't you think he might have made rather more money in the private sector?\n\nSounds like the only reason you can think of for spending money on the poor is taking money away from rich people.", "$1400 vs how much he'll make from this video? He'll make far more, and giving it a happy ending like that makes him look generous is good for his YouTube image. It also makes it harder for them to sue when he puts up the video, too. It's almost like he's paid them for their participation.", "Alrighty dude. Stay ignorant.", "The humiliation was all that he was after. The guy had genuine remorse.", "And barely even that--these folks live close enough to Nashville and some of its nicer suburbs that they could be doing very well for themselves, especially in a state with a lower cost of living and no income tax.", "Yeah.", "Every single one of that guys friends will see this, and see him acting like a piece of shit. This old timer just got fucked. No embellishments to the story if he gets asked about it...", "I certainly wouldn't want to dox the family, but I *really* want to see the wife's reaction to all this.", "https://youtu.be/5VPzXoT-5qk", "Man I don't know, if this was some new upstart company with a novel niche that was looking to get its name out there I think I'd believe that a bit more, but is this kind of thing worth Apple's while?", "Every one in that town will not only know about it, but will also watch this video. Especially his buddies.", "Not all people are shit, which is how I can tell the ones that actually are, like that couple.", "It's ignorant to *ignore* historical context. Bye.", "Whether he's a redneck, or a boomer, or a milennial, or gen x, or a kid, or a suburbanite, has nothing to do with this. If someone did the same thing, but was from some different demographic, would it exonerate them? Would it convict them? No and no.\n\nThere's probably way more redneck boomers that would never *ever* stand for this shit behavior and rightfully be insulted by being lumped in with this guy.", "I’ve been drunk and never had a mind to steal someone’s shit.", "Let me elaborate a bit. If white privilege was at play here (which I'm not saying it is or isn't), I think it is more likely that it is benefitting the guy who had his stuff stolen rather than the thief. If the thief was getting off easy because he is white, why would he have police searching his house that same day? Getting a resolution on a stolen property report on the same day is remarkable, even for a small town.", "I mean I don’t even drive and I want a hilux after watching those videos.", ">there's no excuse for it. I took a couple pain pills and drank a beer\n\nOk, so... Possession and DUI? Also, sounds a lot like you're making an excuse for it. Pretty sure you didn't have a couple pain pills and drink a beer before denying it all to the police. \n\nFuck that guy. All the characteristics of someone whose been getting slaps on the wrist their whole life. \n\nGlad the kid followed up his excuses by just saying \"I don't allow people to steal from me, there's no excuse for it.\"", "He just earned a bunch of subscribers from this for sure", "He didn't take the money", "This asshole should not have gotten off that easy.", "And therefore should be victimized for not knowing?", "I dont think thieves have much of a conscience; he'll probably be bragging to his friends about the $1400 some chump gave to him after robbing him in broad daylight.", "Also looks pretty young for a \"boomer\"...", "Nobody here said anything about exoneration. \n\n\nBoomers are the most entitled generation still alive. We were discussing the reasoning.", "This piece of shit wanted to blame drugs and alcohol sounding, acting, and looking sober AF.\n\nI know countless people who have been fucked out of their gourds on hard drugs and alcohol who never pulled this shit. \n\nScumbag rednecks are the absolute bottom of society.", "The ending cracked me up. Hilarious.", "You're incorrect, I'm not defending them at all, but narcissistic personality disorder is literally caused by shame imo, they can definitely feel shame.", "It's really not that uncommon to have that much cash.\n\nMaybe if you're poor, or living paycheck to paycheck. But judging from the size of their property, it's really quite expected that they have a bunch of cash on hand.", "I think our guy said some minimizing things that I wish he hadn’t.", "You’d end up with a much more fucked up situation if you were paying cops extra to find reasons to charge people", "So that explains why he stole shit? Because he's a boomer?", "Entitlement explains it. \n\nBeing a boomer explains being entitled.", "No way is he only worth 1.8 mill when he is causally throwing out 300k as a reward for a stolen skid steer.", "Keep playing the victim, racist.", "Yeah, it’s supposed to be the People of the State of Alabama versus the defendant.", "Oh I heard \"a pack of beer\" and also thought bro did you just confess to DUI?", "that's my redneck dose for the whole year right there.", "Not trying to be that guy but that’s more than probable cause to arrest him right there. Would have been done if he wasn’t white 🤷", "Wait so you're discussing the weather now and telling us that's it's irrelevant how we feel about the weather we experience? I guess you're living up to that username.", "No, the guy will use it to justify his actions. “I didn’t hurt him—see, he gave the money back.”", "On mobile.\nTwo 15-second ads and it wasn't skippable at the start of second one. Video ain't worth it I decided by the second ad.", "He’s sad because he got caught.", "Before I was even done watching this I thought \"this guy isn't going to be punished at all\".\n\nI don't believe for one second that this is the first time he stole like this.\n\nIs there a sub for the opposite of justice porn? Videos of people getting caught for things and then not getting punished?", "You sound like a douchebag. Opinions are subjective genius, and unless you have a source to prove the Midwest has the \"worst\" weather you should probably stfu", ">And telling some sob story about being a drunk on pills.\n\n... Which just means he's always been a theif. Alcohol doesn't make you do anything you weren't already capable of/desired to do.", "He has a massive YouTube channel and just put the dude on blast. Some things are more valuable than cash. He’s getting plenty of money from the content this idiot created for him anyways.", "not rich and i def dont live somewhere nice. About 20 min away from Frankfurt and crime isnt neccesarily low either here, but i am certain nobody would just roll up with his truck, load it with random shit and then drive off to their property. Certainly not close neighbors, there is a lack of respect there that you just don't see here in germany. \n\nMy grandparents house was once robbed, but they cased the place, waited till we went out to a restaurant, then unhinged the door and stole an old 100 kg safe (which was empty lol) and the tv. Can't even be mad at that. \n\nIdk if i can explain this correctly, but you dont take things out of convenience or situation, normal people with jobs dont take a phone that just lies around, you know. It's just different", "Lol keep on howlin", "He mentioned numerous times he felt so bad for the wife. If you watch he hands the money back specifically to the wife", "Property theft is not somehow exclusive to the US, yes it occurs, just like it occurs in Germany and elsewhere throughout the world but acting as though if you don’t have everything padlocked it will then get stolen is extremely superficial. \n\nYou seriously don’t believe there are plenty of communities in the US that leave their doors unlocked and don’t worry about theft from their neighbours? Come on. That would be like me saying I have to constantly watch my pockets when travelling through all of Germany because someone got pickpocketed in a Berlin subway.", "What makes someone a redneck?", "That's why I said specifically, it doesn't excuse his behavior....\n\nBut the situation around it is still sad. Why can't I shame him for being a criminal but empathize with him for his situation?", "When he did that, I would have said:\n\n\"Your apology is not a legal act. I have recorded your confession and will filing charges against you.\"", "Thanks for my stuff dude, wtf.... jesus, why give this horrible old cunt a breakl???", "Cops will usually not arrest someone if the victim of the crime says not to, but that is a courtesy from them. It is the local prosecutor who decides whether criminal charges are filed and cops still have discretion to arrest regardless of what the victim says. They do not have to get permission from the victim to do so. Again, they will often defer to the victim as a courtesy but they don't have to.\n\nWhen you see someone charged with a crime, the case will be called \"State v. [Defendant}\" not \"[Victim] v. [Defendant]\". That is because it is the State that is charging a person with a crime, not the victim.\n\nHe could sue the guy who stole from him, but that is not the same as pressing charges and would not involve the other party getting arrested.", "Yeah, if the youtuber wanted to be a saint, he'd have not shown the guy's face. Digitally dooming that asshole was a far better play than taking the cash. \n\n\nAsk the thief today if he'd pay $1400 to not have this video shown, and see what his answer is.", "And remember: these people vote.\n\nIf all your vote does is cancel out the vote of one of these people, you've accomplished something.", "Yes, look into Dr. Daniel Fox on YouTube. I'm sorry that \"my opinion\" (which is a researched fact) has hurt you so.", "Dude once that man started talking it got so cringe.", "That young man should have taken two shirts out of that tub and handed them to the thief and his wife and told them \"here's a gift to remember me by.\"", "This is exactly the kind of Christmas cheer I needed. Awesome. I hope he finds the skid loader thief.", "Checked out of the video once the sob story started. Don’t feel bad one iota", "Yeah after that I would have changed my mind and told the detectives to arrest him. \"I'm embarrassed because I got caught and I have no excuses but here's my excuse, I felt like taking your shit cause I thought it'd be easy\"\n\nI mean that's more than petty theft and destruction of property.", "https://youtu.be/VA5WsGFHi-4", "He was probably high off his ass and drunk like he said, doesn’t excuse him at all but it was cool of Cody not to run this man’s life like he could have. \n\nI liked hearing Cody say that if they found other peoples property he’d press charges to help but didn’t want to if it was just his stuff. \n\nBut by putting this on the internet, this man is going to be harassed by all the little children that sub to Whistlin Diesel…", "Fuckin boomers man, they want it all!", "Yeah and he wasn't giving it back voluntarily. What the fuck...", "Why… why not charge him??", "It's easy, actually. I grew up among fucked up people, addicts, drunks, criminals and hypocrites. From your perspective this guy is some extra horrible person. From my perspective this is a pretty average dude. People are generally pretty capable of being weak-willed, thoughtless, hypocritical, egotistic, duplicitous, greedy and will do almost anything in the name of self preservation. That's just how people are. Principled people with strong values are in the extreme minority.", "I would bet a lot of money that the theif also has very racist opinions on who thieves usually are and how he can't be one.", "This was better yesterday when someone else posted it.\n\nThen you spammed it everywhere this morning.\n\n🦶🏾", "He's probably mistaken on that count. He is saying the packing house takes them.\n\nI'd guess they mostly end up as fertilizer.", "https://youtu.be/pBiUM3i0Rrg they project their unwanted traits onto you, if that's not shame, idk what is. Next time you open your mouth know what the fuck you're talking about.", "Yeah imagine if the old fuck was a black man, a muslim, a gay man, etc. Fuck these fucking cops. Fuck the fucking thief. And fuck the weak-ass YouTuber who did not file charges.", "Bang to rights and still didn't apologise", "Why does this read like a historian talking about life in small towns lol. What is this the 1800s?\n\nI've lived in a fairly small town and near small towns my whole life and this is definitely not the vibe. Sounds like neighbors weren't already super happy about the YouTube neighbor and probably even egged the theif on\n\nThey'll give him shit for it but he'll still be invited to the Christmas parties", "\"Please don't be Rutherford County, Please don't be Rutherford County\"\n\nRutherford County Sheriffs pull up.\n\n\"FUCK\"", "Lol reddit will absolutely hate whistlin diesel", "And the thief will use that to justify his thefts and cast himself as a good guy.", "And yet when I called the cops with HD footage of my neighbour vandalizing my house, the cops claimed I did it and nearly tried to arrest me for it, before finding every excuse possible to delay any attempt at investigating it.\n\nThis guy got a warrant in 20 minutes and recovered his stuff all in the same day. Insane.", "Not all people view debt as a tool that can be used wisely but as evil in all situations. \n\nI don't agree with it, but my parents are very much in that category.", "I think it costs OP 75 an animal, so then leaving extra animals means OP gets charged for then", "Since everyone else is commenting on the thief, I'd just like to point out another crime, the audio editing on this video is atrocious. Those cuts to the orange video, the audio is about 3 times louder than the other audio and overmodulated. As someone who has worked in A/V for 22 years, this should be a crime as well,", "How you feel doesn't matter. Literally decades of weather reports to back up the fact that the Midwest has the worst weather in the country. Oh no, somewhere else is slightly colder or sees more snow in the winter time. Is entirely irrelevant when the weather year round in the mid west is either winter, summer, or tornado.", "It's a shield to be an asshole.", "Well, at least the meat that's too far gone to be used by Taco Bell.", "What do you think dogs eat in the wild, bruh?", "Eh, as someone in a rural place that was the case at one point but I haven’t been in a cash only business in a long time. I certainly don’t keep thousands of dollars in the dresser drawer. More than likely that dude (or his wife) was selling pain pills for money. Or meth.", "That was awesome. That guy is so much more forgiving than I would have been.", "\"Priviliged rich white man gets let off the hook for his felony crimes by other priviliged rich white man\"", "Yup, exactly this, plus this dudes house and face is now on the internet… Cody knew what he was doing in posting this and it’s a far worse punishment than the money and jail time. The guy is going to be harassed for a bit until the internet children lose interest and move on.", "How much money do Youtubers make? I'm feeling some kind of way about this guy that films himself riding dirt bikes or something having \"plenty of money\" or whatever.", "SOCIOPATHS AND PSYCHOPATHS, can't feel shame. There's a massive difference between antisocial pd and narcissistic pd tho. But even if they have npd and aspd and the core is npd, they CAN. AND. DO. FEEL. SHAME. Fucking talking from your ass, but you haven't even done any research. My \"opinion\" at least is based on fact instead of mob mentality. Fucking idiots I stg we stray further and further from logic every fucking day. God fucking damn.", "What a piece of shit. He's not in a position where he needs to steal but he does it anyway.", "Anyone else find it ironic redditors are extremely virtuous and open minded about everything except when it comes to an entire generation of people, roughly a quarter of the population? In which many think it's appropriate to generalize and insult those because of their own poor family life growing up?\n\nMillenials will make the same mistake as the boomers, it's up to the zoomers.", "I mean, quite possibly. I spent a lot of time in rural NC and the number of people I met who were well off and stole was surprising. There are 100% people who get to be well off country folk legitimately, but a surprising number of them get a good bit of money through illegal means. Want some fun? Setup a trail cam outside the house of a recently deceased old person in the community and see how many upstanding members of the community show up to pillage the place.", "Wait what happened!?", "U enjoyed watching him actually wheel the hilux more than just seeing it get destroyed in one go. Like when he tried to go up that crazy pass in reverse? Shit was nuts", "Sure, but it's easy to be concerned by something when all you see is the destruction that one can cause. In reality, annual tornado damage costs 1/20th of annual hurricane damage and 1/2 of annual earthquake damage in the US. \n\nTornados for the most part are relatively small, occur in the middle of nowhere, and don't level entire cities. When they do, it makes the news. There are roughly 1200 tornados annually in the US, but how many do we actually hear about?", "Like really his immediate reasoning is that it happened because it wasn't his fault. \n\nHe was back there mudding and saw the crates. Not his fault. They were 'ajar', not his fault. He was high on pain pills and drunk so everything he did wasn't his fault but hey soooooorrrryyy", "It really depends. Many rural folks inherited a lot of land. Many with oil rights that ended up paying off quite well. I personally know some folks like this in Texas.", "Therefore, boomers are more likely to be thieves than other age groups. That's your argument.\n\nPremise 1: Someone feeling they are entitled means they will steal shit\nPremise 2: Boomers are more entitled than other age groups.\n[Conclusion: Boomers are more likely to steal shit than other age groups.](https://i.imgur.com/w49HOnd.png)\n\nActually, according to these statistics, boomers are [amongst the least likely to engage in property theft.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/252480/number-of-property-crimes-in-the-us-by-type-and-age/)\n\nCare to give any statistics that actually support your argument?", "That was great.", "That man could not handle a 'young kid' being the better person and not accepting the money. \n\nHe just needed to shut up, only every uttering the words \"I\" \"am\" and \"Sorry\". The whole \"there is no excuse\" while trying to excuse himself was a load of bs.", "On the other side, I'm super glad they didn't charge him. He stole some shit, no indication of it ever happening before. If it ended in a fine, sure, whatever, but this had a chance to deal jail time, and the prison system in the US is so fucking horrendous that i think only the worst of crimes deserve jail time (which means almost never including property crime in that). It's traumatic, it's dangerous, it is life ruining. And especially for this particular instance. Neither party needed the stuff. He said numerous times it's just sentimental, so he'd miss it. But it isn't *too* sentimental or he wouldn't keep it in a storage shed outside of where he lives. So he'd miss it *occasionally*. And people are ready to potentially ruin this man and his family's life over it. \n\nSure, fuck him, but taking it too jail time is a punishment that far exceeds what the crime actually was. Especially since minimum sentencing is done in such a shitty way as looking at monetary value, so he'd possibly be looking at years. Not every crime deserves jail, especially the jail system in the US.", "It's the kid's fucking choice, NOT YOURS. Get over it.", "Also a salesperson here but for HVAC. It's amazing how some people even in very affluent areas still don't grasp this concept. They'll say \"oh I don't need financing.\" Then on the other end of the spectrum I have customers who earn 7 figures annually that will take free money for a project that costs $10k because....why not? It's free money.", "\"Dude in the future we're not just gonna call the cops, we're gonna gather all the evidence ourselves and make a case and then we'll call the cops.\"\n\nSoooo what is it that the cops actually do again?", "This is the problem with social media. It serves no purpose other than to foster jealous, envy, and resentment. Watching people living lives they wished they could live and then justifying either taking a piece or attempting to destroy because they resent the choices they made in their own life. Its easy to justify the actions in your brain when you feel like the person is undeserving. Its easy to fabricate a story in your head about who Youtubers are and why what you're doing is just a little taste of payback for causing all that jealousy in the viewer. Look at what you made me do! That is until he sees its a regular person with a heart that isn't the undeserving asshole they thought he was. This guy will steal again", "I was wondering how he had so much money to invest to find this thief..", "Why? Outside of a few areas, it is mostly fine as far as everyday living conditions go. It can be rural as fuck, but that isn't really a bad thing.", "That might be a valid argument. For me at least I'm not even THAT rural, and there's a cash only restaurant in my home town that does quite well for itself.", "I can’t believe people are feeling sorry for the old man. Yeah I heard his story. Sounds like he go hooked on medication didn’t have the bootstraps to quit and turned to crime. He’s lucky that kid didn’t press charge when he should’ve", "It wouldn't get removed, it would just get downvoted. There is a lot of stupid shit you never see because it has like 0 points. It's just a popularity voting system. You aren't going to get a lot of upvotes giving the largest demographic on the website shit. You are making it sound like it's an unfair conspiracy when the simplest reason is right there.", "Sources to back up that my educated \"opinion\" is simply that? An opinion? I'm waiting for the Quora link to pop up istg bro please, THROW IT AT ME", "Ya, I've met a few people like that. I'm also sitting here trying to figure out what I said that's getting me down votes. It seems logical to me that if the bank wants to give you free money, let them, and put your money to work making more money.", "Lol, I’ll bet city latte-sippers are losing there fricking minds about how the cops responded and acted in this video.", "Ahhh the classic pain pills & beer defense", "Postal workers are being shot at for delivering packages (in uniform) after dark.", "\"stupid heat of the moment decision\"\n\nTakes plates off car, wears mask, brings bolt cutters, buys spraypaint for cameras, makes multiple trips.....\n\nYah, this old guy does this all the time.", "They're not wrong - most people think the way they think is how others think. When you see a situation like this, a snippet of time, of a total stranger whose life and kind you don't know *at all* and project onto them that they're only sorry that they got caught, it is likely (not guaranteed, but highly likely) that it means in a similar situation, you'd only be sorry that you got caught, and not be sorry about the actual deed.", "Haha yeah just got to that part and I was like…Did he just confess to DUI in front of the cops? Lol", "Maybe it’s me? But damn this guy is nice. The revenge i’d bring on this dude and his sobbing wife would be medieval. My mind is horrible and I don’t even want to put in print what I’d really do.", "Exactly. It comes back to the same issue of credit illiteracy that I see all the time at work. Some people just never have been taught that credit is a tool, and not an evil.", "Directed by Michael Bay.", ">Shame is an unpleasant self-conscious emotion typically associated with a negative evaluation of the self; withdrawal motivations; and feelings of distress, exposure, mistrust, powerlessness, and worthlessness.\n\n-From Wiki", "So for a few hours", "Tho it was pretty funny to ask for the money and then gives it back. Great dominating pity power play tbh.\n\n\"I'll need you to replace what you stole. 1400$? I don't need your damn money peasant\"", "Y'all always say that like it's an insult.\n\nHe's an incredibly prominent public figure whose entire claim to fame is being a controversial tool. **No shit** we think about him.", "Entitlement comes in many forms. Your conclusion about my argument is a non-sequitur.", "Bigotry lol", "It’s more likely “a kid moved into that big property down the road” “how can a kid afford to live here?” *proceeds to look up new neighbor* “fucking good for nothing lazy millennials, how can he make more money than me!?”\n\nThis guy is a product of right wing media telling him to hate an entire generation for the last fifteen years and he just couldn’t take it anymore", "He made more than that off this video", "For some people having a lot isn’t enough if someone else has more.", "Watch that video yesterday. It was great all the way around.", "Also, at the end he said that he watched his videos, he knows who he is! There is no excuse, it's just pure malice.", "Exactly and if you look into what narcissism is it's a very misunderstood disorder. That's ALL they feel dude, is shame for their true self and boredom. And ego boosts. Look into it bro.", "Give him the California treatment. City should press charges. Felony theft. DUI possibly for admitting driving under the influence. Jail time. How did the guy just walk away??? What a waste of time if the thief didn’t learn shit.", "I'm glad you got your stuff back, I hope that man learned a lesson", "Dude just killed him with kindness with that offer at the end. Old man died a bit their because he got out classes.", "Liars lie and thieves steal. This is definitely not the first time and likely not the last.", "Probably getting some phone calls now that this is on the front page of Reddit\n\nHe’s probably for some “friends” that over the years have had some things to missing here and there.\n\nFuck this guy", "Dude is probably a low key meth addict he speaks weird and does that tongue thing the Mike pillow guy does", "At this point, you're just stringing together big words you don't even understand. \n\nYes, entitlement does come in many forms. Nothing about being a redneck or this vague accusation that that generation is 'entitled' (whatever that means), explains why this guy stole stuff.", "That boss knows what he's talking about. He is firm yet recognizes the addicts humanity. Ol' Mr. McStealy in the the vid here reminds me of half of the geezers in the rehab I work at. They deny deny deny, justify that's it's a script, then rage when they can't get a refill, steal and sell for street resource's all the while the family at home has little to no idea and just think Dad's pain is flaring up again and make excuses for his sudden strange actions that happen only now and again.", "100% he's a Maga hat wearing douche.", "Let me rephrase. They project their unwanted traits onto you as a result of their shame. It's an unhealthy and absolutely ineffective way of treating the way they truly feel about themselves inside. Take a second to read an article, please ?", "A buddy of mine worked his ass off and now owns a successful construction company. \n\nConsidered a \"redneck\".\n\nYou'd never know that he has money just by looking at him. Wears dirty jeans, work boots, daily driver is a beat up Chevy pickup truck.\n\nLives in a fairly modest house. \n\nWears a $20k watch. Has every motorized toy you can think of. 4-wheelers, SXS, boats, swamp buggy, motorcycles, etc.. Wife drives a really nice Mercedes. \n\nSome of the nicest people you'll meet.", "Is it just me or was the title of this post annoying", "\"Redneck\" is at *least* as race coded as \"thug.\"", "I doubt this geezer learned his lesson. He'll probably end up doing it again. All his actions in the recorded video shows how he was fully aware of what he was doing regardless of if was the meds or alcohol. Stealing the items, coming back without a license plate on his vehicle, destroying the cameras, etc. He's only embarrassed because he was caught. The amount of time he wasted for LE to have to go back and get a search warrant when he should've just fessed up right then and there. Fuck this boomer. Should be charged and thrown in jail for this shit, but welp old man white privilege in a nutshell.", "Equalize your goddamn audio.", "Complains about people being prejudiced and hateful.\n\nLikes video calling someone a redneck boomer.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/UrgpZ0fUixs (NSFW language)\n\nIt'd be nice if people admitted they just don't give a crap.", "This is so staged it’s painful to read the comments.", "Perfect", "This video is actually enough for Murfreesboro/Christiana wherever the fuck this dude lives in Rutherford for every single person that this dude knows to know about him now. Bout to send it to a few friends just in case they might know this bumblefuck too.", "I'm sorry, I wouldn't be so forgiving. That dude has a house full of stolen shit, I guarantee it.\n\nHe stole before. He stole this. He will steal again.", "Great memory for a guy who was fucked up on pain pills and alcohol. He had a really vivid recollection of what he did that night however long ago it was. And it was really convenient that he thought to not have a plate on his car and had a can of spray paint on him for the cameras.", "Nail on the head", "Unfortunately for the guy who made the video, he may have unintentionally made this couple a target. He basically just broadcast to millions of people that this elderly couple has thousands of dollars in cash sitting in their home; a lot of people out there would justify breaking in and hurting the couple because they are bad people, so stealing from them is fine.\n\nI wouldn't be surprised if this video has to get pulled eventually.", "He should focus on short videos of bad products. I'd subscribe to that and I don't have anything subscribed.\n\nI don't trust anything but bad reviews. Maybe lockpicking lawyer because 99% of his reviews trash the product.", "Did he admit to taking pain pills and drinking and then **driving** to go steal this stuff? \n\nI was surprised no one mentioned it.", "Everything Cody did was an extra twist if the knife. He killed him with kindness.", "It isnt an opinion. You want a source? Look it up yourself. You won't, just like you won't believe anything I say thus there is no reason to waste my time proving anything. You realize you can still like something that is objectively bad right? What's your plan here anyway? You think I'd cave to your hostility? The Midwest has the worst weather in the country. It was never a question.", "From what I have seen and from Americans have said about Germany and the US, I believe that it’s much more common, for Americans to have something stolen from them by neighbors than in Germany. Never said crime doesn’t exist here, but if it occurs, it’s mostly by people who do that for a living, not Sandra from apartment 7b, who saw your door was open and just popped in for that sweet iPad you had lying around.", "*\"JUST GET OVER IT\" shrieks the man child as he furiously mashes his keyboard*", "Yeah that's the one small piece of redemption here. Not that the guy isn't a piece of shit like most of the comments are saying. It's human nature to try and make yourself sound better than what happened, it's a defense mechanism so you can live with yourself. But he did still realize in the moment he needed to own at least a bit of it.", "Given that the US Constitution is the most anti-democratic in the Developed World (by a long shot), might take 60 votes.", "> love people who assume someone uses small smaple sizes, from a single interaction\n\nOh, the irony!", "I live in a redneck area. Everyone who has any money at all has a gunssafe and next to their guns they keep a stack of cash for emergencies or the fall of society. This is redneck preparedness 101.", "Even wild kids need to nap", "You say that like YouTubers spend money rationally, lol. It's probably close to what he will make from the content it will provide.\n\nI completely agree in the deflated numbers though. Google is only going to list past tax declaration. Probably safe to say his net worth is twice that, and growing every day with new subs and sponsors. Also doesn't include property values, write-offs and philanthropy.\n\nBut I'd also like to point out that people with that level of assets rarely use their liquid income, as it's more financially sound to borrow against those assets at little to no interest. [Buy, borrow, die](https://www.wsj.com/articles/buy-borrow-die-how-rich-americans-live-off-their-paper-wealth-11625909583) is one of the biggest separations between wealthy and poor in this country.\nSomehow the more money you have, the more breaks you get. I understand the economics, but morally it's repugnant.", "Naw bruh that stuff only happen in the lawless lib cities right!\n\nFuck rednecks.", "I don't know why so many people are disagreeing with you. I've lived in rural areas most of my life and you're 100 percent correct. I can't speak to this particular youtuber, or these particular cops, but in all likelihood, if this man tracked his stuff back to anyone who wasn't a well-off white man, the situation would have probably ended differently.\n\nIt needs to be brought up in threads like this, because there have been countless black men and women arrested or even shot for much less, while this man gets away with grand larsony after a hand shake and an \"I'm sorry.\"", "Or, YouTuber set this whole thing up because.....YouTuber.", "Thats a reay good point. His local all knows he's a piece if shit thief.", "You're forgetting fall and spring too. We are missing the hurricanes and major flooding. Didn't know you are a Midwest weather expert. Is this your profession? Plus, you seen to feel very opinionated about this, yet my opinion doesn't matter. Your thoughts here are subjective. Again... Cheers to you!!!", "Nah, he planned on going back. He ain't that dumb.", "Yeah I mean Germans would never take shit from a certain ethnic or religious group *oh wait Nazis*", "This YouTuber's name is Whistling Diesel.\n\nYou MAY initially hate him, because he has one of those fuck all attitudes and literally just buys cars and shit that people would DREAM of having, and the absolutely destroys them in like an episode.\n\nAll for fun and YouTube views, which he definitely gets.\n\nBUT! I have watched pretty much all his videos, I don't even like cars!\n\nThis guy is actually really wholesome and pretty funny for some reason.\n\nI just like him, he's entertaining.", "My argument is that this guys entitlement is what made him feel perfectly free to go on that property and take stuff he thought might be left behind. \n\nMy theory on why he is entitled, is that he is part of a generation and subculture that is more entitled than any other alive. \n\nIf you think “non-sequitur” is a big word, you need to stop whatever it is you imagine you’re doing here.", "Because the victim has to testify that’s his stuff otherwise everything is hearsay", "I have much lower moral expectations for people than most redditors. I'm of the opinion that people with \"strong character\" are exceedingly rare.", "> up to the owner if they want to press charges or not.\n\nNot exactly. That's a kind of courtesy. Charges are brought by the state and to \"press charges\" means to formally accuse someone of a crime, but ultimately the DA can decide to do it or not without the victims input. Generally, the DA can consider private theft to be a crime against the state without a victim making an accusation*.\n\nEdit: * assuming the DA has enough evidence of a crime without the victim's testimony, which in this case they might not, since those videos might be showing this guy simply picking up property that was rightfully his or something.", "I dunno. Apple has a long standing grudge with Ford rangers...", "RICKY, YOU DONT STEAL FROM THE PARK.", "You got something against man-children? Hater", "I think the inverse is true. This is a big splash in a small pond.", "Plus that he has thousands in cash just sitting in his house. They are 100% going to get broken into, unfortunately. They probably should have cut that part from the video...", "This is great. He's just mad and talking like he's remorseful because he got caught. \n\n Tonight's dinner at home with his wife that had no clue....Wife will say \"**So what else don't I know about you?\"**", "https://www.npr.org/2020/09/06/910322916/5-boats-sink-at-trump-boat-parade-in-texas", "I notice y'all are disliking but not presenting anything to argue your point or your side of the argument. You know what that means? You have nothing to say.", "Great vid. For anyone who don't have time to view it all: \n[https://youtu.be/VA5WsGFHi-4?t=674](https://youtu.be/VA5WsGFHi-4?t=674)\n\nWhen talking about a narcissist's core issues / motivators = fear, shame, guilt, doubt, inferiority.", "> i think he is doing fine and doesn't need to steal.\n\nWhat he did is inexcusable, 100%. But the saying 'don't judge a book by it's cover' rings true with a lot of people. I know a ton of people that get in over their head buying all kinds of nice shit. They buy a nice house, and two nice cars. Sure they can make the payments, but they are living paycheck to paycheck and struggling to pay for other things.", "I'm done now, I apologize for the outburst. This one is quite the heated subject for me.", "He could have donated to cops to be applied to detectives investigating theft", "The worst part about this is they have land, a nice house, a fuckin garage, and a shed with a damn camper truck. They obviously have a good amount of money. Why steal? I just don't get it. He's a bozo for that one. If he was my dad I wouldn't talk to him again. I don't fuck with thieves regardless of reasoning.", "Right? Like originally their plan was to bait the thief with trackers, hoping it's the same thief, but nope he just sees the car a mile down the road. What an idiot.", "He seems like the kind of guy who comes back with a lot of stuff when out and about, so she likely doesn't question it. The dude would just say he found it by the side of the road or paid someone $20 for the lot.", "\"Got damn kid makes a shit load of money from his youtubes. He didn't earn that shit, so it ain't his anyhow.\"", "Thank you robot pool party, finally someone with a modicum of sense.", "Is anyone else wondering why the gentlemen who got his property stolen put up thousands of dollars of surveillance equipment, but never bothered to close and lock his gate?", "This, ladies and gentlemen, is how civilized people act! Take a note.", "He isn't drinking in the pictures though. My point is that you can't really substantiate a DUI just based on him saying he drank a beer before doing the crime. Like, how long before?", "He admitted to an altered state of mind and impaired reasoning. That sounds like a DUI to me.", "I know YouTubers with as many subs as him literally rake it in.\n\nBut I cannot do the math on the shit he builds and breaks, all without really promoting sponsors on YouTube too.\n\nLike, to support his destructive habits he has to be making like 15 mil a year or something.\n\nHe always says he never had daddy money or anything like that and I believe him, I just don't know how he pulls this off.\n\nHe must give about as much of a shit about his bank about as he does with his possessions.", "It's often more that without victim cooperation it can be impossible to build a case. You need someone to testify that's my stuff (so taking it is theft), those are my cameras (establishing what the jurry is watching), and so on. It's not as easy as just getting the police to testify on behalf of the victims to establish foundation as you run into hearsay issues.", "He's an old redneck asshole from Alabama, odds are pretty high that the commenter is right", "He knew he was a Youtuber and admitted to watching him. He planned this out and did it for some personal or jealous reason.", "do you really believe that? because that's really dumb and not true.", "Could you argue anything with me, could you debate a word I said, or are you simply going to sit there and eat my ass from a distance 😘😂", "Anyone else feel like this was elaborately staged? Everybody is like \"Oh yeah I watch you on YouTube!\"\n\nThe cops get a warrant (supposedly) and don't arrest the guy? \n\nThey have exact cash just lying around?\n\nSomething smells fishy.", " 100% right", "I actually don't think it's a big word, but some people do. It is latin after all. You also didn't even give any analysis for why what I was saying was a non-sequitur. You just threw it out there.\n\n*If* you were referring to my formulation of your argument, then the more appropriate criticism of what I was saying to you, would be that I was straw manning you. Is that what you were trying to say?", "Lots do cash weekend jobs like carpenters", "Whistlin Diesel?", "Have you ever had a great spread of food sat out in front of you, but for one reason or another, you had no appetite for it when you sit down to eat it? Having been in a position to enact vengeance, it's easy to lose your appetite for it.", "I didn’t even watch the video, but I enjoy conspiracy theory.", "Legit will tell that man, “if you even dare to steal another thing, I will shoot because you’re trespassing.” Fuck that guy", "I'd bet money this guy says shit about \"the blacks and illegals coming to steal shit\". I bet he has a facebook profile full of it.", "he was appeasing the distraught wife", "I watched it because it was fascinating.\n\nThe man wasn't making excuses. He said so over and over. He *explained* himself but he never excused himself, and I think a lot of people on Reddit can't tell the difference. At one point, he even says \"I made myself think what I was doing wasn't wrong\" which is quite a profound thing to say.\n\nI know you all are very very angry at this man, but I thought it was the right ending. He seemed genuinely remorseful, and refusing the money obviously had an emotional reaction on him. At the end of the day, when all the deputies and detectives and YouTubers leave and his wife has had her go at him, there's a moment of quiet where he's going to sit with himself and try to get on with his day. And depending on if he's actually ashamed or not, that could be a very very rough moment. I think the YouTuber felt that way too. He went with his instinct that the guy was genuine.\n\nIt's so bizarre seeing these comments after watching the video. I was certain people would have thought that end exchange was wholesome but instead people are outraged and want blood. They want him to suffer and they're convinced the YouTuber is just manipulating his viewers and the thief is manipulating the YouTuber.\n\nEveryone is just so cynical and angry.", "Ok, this person then, \"not a narcissist\" \n\nYou're really making this your mission today....", "It was your job to make the link between what I actually said, and what you claimed I said. It wasn’t my job to prove is wrong. \n\nThanks for all your input 👍🏻", "No. A rendering truck takes them. The meat is not fit for human consumption thus it wouldn't be processed at the same packing plant. That would run the risk of contamination of the food supply, but grind it up, dry it out, smash it into pellets and you got dog food. There are of course other products they can make out of all the other things they get out of dead animals. Like fertilizer, soap, biofuel, chemical solvents, and even explosives. But according to the truck driver that picks up the dead animals the leather is the most valuable thing.", "You are seriously trying to make the case most criminals over 50 go all breaking bad? Wouldn't it make more sense that he's been a thief his whole life instead of for the first time in his 50s - 60s? He just retired and all of sudden went \"hmm now at the ripe age of 63 I think I'll pull my first heist?\"\n\nThat shit doesn't make any sense.", "A few hours of everyday for the next few weeks probably.", "All of his buddies, neighbors, and rest of his family now know what a loser thief he is. \n\nI hope the other neighbors check their garages for stuff that's gone missing. Unfortunately, since it doesn't appear any charges were filed, this thief won't have a criminal record.", "Guilt - I did a bad thing\n\nShame - I am a bad person\n\nBoth provoke difficult emotions and thoughts. The main difference is the object of those thoughts, the self or the action that a person feels guilt for.\n\nShane and guilt are not necessarily from any one place. People may feel shame because of harsh beliefs they developed about themselves due to an abusive or neglectful upbringing. Guilt could come from a perceived unmet expectation. It’s normal for them to be experienced together.\n\nAnyway just wanted to offer some clarity on those different emotions.", "He's made a career out if YouTube. Lots of these big car channels just start making videos and they gain an audience. Most of them start off working in their garage and it snowballs from there.", "The fact of the matter is, y'all are so used to being fucking sheep that you can't come up with your own opinions. And the second someone shows you, you're incorrect about something, it fucking kills you inside. It's unfortunate that we live in a society where mob mentality is the driving factor, and where we are divided into multiple sides. Where most people can't even sit down and look into my eyes and have a fucking conversation about this shit. Because being \"right\" is now more important than being fucking educated and correct.", "I think WD was too lenient, rewarding a thief sets a bad precedence. as far as why the thief stole, his excuses were all bs, he admitted he had seen his videos, so I think he was offended and retaliating.", "Stopped watching after “I’m a youtuber.”", "Eh, all he said was that it made him feel like a dumb young man or something. Not exactly the same as admitting impairment.", "Sounds like his channel is pretty popular locally too, since the wife and cop were both familiar with his content. All that guy's friends are going side-eye him forever and peep his shit because it might be theirs.\n\nI mean, the friends that aren't also thieving pieces of shit.", "The Bible tells us that Jesus will forgive people of their sins. Is that not correct?", "\"we watch your YouTube videos\".\n\n\"Well get ready for the next one. You're going to be the star and I'll make that $1400 back in no time\"", "He hates them almost as much as he hates his things lol.\n\nBut seriously, he gets HARASSED wherever he lives.\n\nJust kind of the nature of his fan base.\n\nAlso, I could see some dumb fucks justifying stealing from him because \"he's just going to destroy it anyway.\"", "Plenty of famous racially based slurs are like that.", "Lots of variables determine the amount you make but hitting the 100k follower mark seems to get you 30k a month.", ">cops didn't want to charge him\n\nSounds about white.", "Your honor, I'd like to plead stupidity for my actions.\n\nHow so, sir?\n\nWell, I took two pain pills and drank a beer and the rest... well, the rest is caught on tape and now on YouTube.", "Bud, I am diagnosed with BPD, Pure O OCD, MDD, GAD, and ADHD. And I say that openly with nothing to hide. Just because someone is willing to tell you when you're wrong doesn't make them a narcissist.", "The group Reddit thinks is the cause of all the evil on planet earth", "The classic Roseanne Barr and Judge Michelle Odinet defense, \">!The pain pills made me a shitty human being!<\"", "Oh so this guys kinda deserved to have his shit stolen because he seems like an absolute mark", "No wonder he is being targeted. Not only does he not press charges but gives stupid amounts in rewards. And for what?, likes and follows? Guess he’s getting paid plenty by YT", "Wow you're dumb.", "It's almost like he can't take responsibility for his actions", "I'm not even sure what a skid loader is and far from Indiana but 300k sounds nice", "Honestly, this made me a bit mad. Look how a brazen thief, caught on camera, was treated because of local politics and locally elected Sheriffs.", "I watched this video yesterday with my husband, who watches this guy's YouTube regularly. I didn't have a very good initial opinion about him and his channel. After watching this though, I am so impressed with his character! That old Douchebag probably hasn't been that embarrassed or been taught such a lesson in this life! He learned that day for sure! This younger guy comes along and just by being so level headed, shows his graciousness! I like him a lot more now!", "Repost from 1 day ago . C'mon", "Exactly when I ended as well. The guy should have pressed charges.\n\nEdit watch till the end. When the owner hands the money back, that’s the best thing he could have done. Puts the thief right in the guilt zone. He feels worse from this than being charged by the police.", "Growing up in redneck country and as a former redneck myself, I've never seen it as a slur but I guess it's different for others.", "What is evil?", "Listen peeps…everyone has a camera now. The end.\n\n\n\nAlso this man has stolen before. Trust me.", ">I don't have a conscience, I'm just gonna steal some shit\n\nWhat do you even do with a truck tailgate and a bunch of bows? I hope the detectives took their search a little farther in his garage and other buildings.", "Because he’s a mark", "Just the title of this video bothers me a bit. Redneck boomer. How about we just don’t like him because he’s an asshole, not because he’s a hick or old.\n\nAs someone else pointed out, the video was posted yesterday under a different title. Didn’t get the massive upvotes until “thief” was replaced in the title with “redneck boomer.”", "**Evil, in a general sense, is defined by what it is not—the opposite or absence of good. It can be an extremely broad concept, although in everyday usage it is often more narrowly used to talk about profound wickedness.**\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil> \n\n\n\n*This comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!*\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "This guy should have been in Taken", "Especially if you aren’t from the area… the good ole boys almost think they have a right to take your stuff. If you don’t live in the property, you better have your stuff bolted down and made to where it’s more trouble to take it than it’s worth.", "He said he was fucked up on booze and pills. Believe it or not, fucked up shit can still happen in your older years, and you can still make horrible decisions.", "Is thug race coded in America? Really don't think it is in the UK. The more you know I guess.", "If the youtuber guy doesn't testify the case is moot. Thats essentially why they ask.", "They were counting cash", "Social status, peer pressure, how your friends and family perceive you- these are worth WAY more than money. It’s why blackmail is such an effective tool on all types of people- it’s just the amount of money demanded that varies.", "Wow how rude", "Premeditated.", "Victims have no say in whether or not the charges get pressed, because in criminal cases it’s the county/state/whatever government vs the defendant. However, the victim can refuse to testify, at which point the charges are usually dropped.", "Also the video has 2.5 million views in 2 days. Assuming it's monetized that's probably worth about $250,000 alone.\n\nEdit: google lied to me, apparently it's far less than that.", "I don't even like cars but I've watched all of whislin diesels YouTube videos starting from most popular lol.\n\nAt first your like... Well this guy's kinda a douchebag..\n\nThen you just end loving him. Real good dude, really funny and REALLY knows his way around everything that could possibly be in the car world.", "All the more reason to vote. If even just to change that.\n\nIt boggles my mind that voter turnout the world over isn't in the high 90% and always sits in the 40-60s. \n\nIf people knew the kind of stupidity that drives some to go out and change the world, I can't imagine how they *wouldn't* be motivated to go out and prevent that. It's like watching a stumbling drunk get into a car when your kids are playing on the street. Except with governance and society.", "You… you think he built a career out of being a thief?\n\nIs he unionized?\n\nHow is that upvoted lol", "I didn't say you were a narcissist, but those other conditions were obvious from the first of 31 replies \n\nGood luck", "Cause he's a scumfuck thief that doesn't deserve a place in civilized society until he gets his shit together?", "Right, so what you really meant is that I straw manned you. \n\n> My argument is that this guys entitlement is what made him feel perfectly free to go on that property and take stuff he thought might be left behind. \n\n\nThat's what I summed up more succinctly as your P1.\n\n> My theory on why he is entitled, is that he is part of a generation and subculture that is more entitled than any other alive. \n\nThat is P2, as I said.\n\nAnd then the conclusion is that \"boomers are more likely to steal shit than other generations.\". In what way does that not follow from the premises stated?\n\nI know it sounds ridiculous to break things down this way sometimes, but it really is easier to look at.\n\nFurthermore, you still haven't, not even attempted, to show data supporting the implications of your assertions. I have.", "You are not using math, you are using subjective speculation. When I say you are using Marx’s economic principles, let me specify: It’s the Distributive Justice Principle in Marxism. Simplified, Marx said that burdens should be fairly distributed in society, and due to the conflicting nature of a diverse population each burden was to be given a weight and then use that weight to justly re-assign social burdens and goods based on things like fairness, equality, and other claims. The social good or burden itself has value, and the value of those who accept the good or burden itself is taken into consideration. That is what your argument is: it’s not Justice enough to address the person who did the stealing, you are randomly assigning value to the proximity of a spouse as value. You are distributing the burden of the crime based upon the idea that someone who had no knowledge of it somehow may have benefited from it, which makes no sense in any realm and no prosecutor or law enforcement officer, even the dumb ones would even consider this logic. \n\nI also find it interesting that you are assigning value to your opinion on whether or not the cameras were ruined or not. You have these swirling subjective metrics that you are using to assign moral and ethical value based purely on speculation and feeling and you are proposing that social Justice be built against a framework that adds this idea of innocent benefit of ill gotten gains. it just blows my mind.", "That’s always the sob story from the entitled. It’s alcohol and pills every fucking time.", "And this is a strong topic for me, because I was raised by a narcissist. And I watched her hate herself for years and years and years. Y'all are spreading misinformation. I never defended anyone like that, you made that false assumption. I will genuinely admit that I may have come off very strong and yet I don't feel bad about that. Because maybe just maybe after we've both calmed down and you can look at the video that I posted, by a licensed psychologist. You might learn something about a misunderstood disorder. These people are people too. And they can learn to heal. Y'all are perpetuating a false narrative, just like them to make yourselves feel good. Well? Does it feel good ?", "I do real estate development sometimes in rural areas and they will steal any construction material that isn’t nailed down. Around cities and suburbs it’s honestly pretty rare. I just chalk it up to these people in the boonies having literally zero to lose", "He probably knows the cops, or their boss", "Thanks for the input 👍🏻", "Gotta get some glasses, brother", "How do you think he got all his stuff in the first place?", "I thought it was weird she said they watch his videos all of the time on Facebook. Like, \"sorry my husband stole your stuff, but we're big fans\"", "Man how much of a bigger man was this kid versus this old man. Sure, he could press charges this time but then he's dealing with this shit forever. Cause someone dumb enough to steal from a neighbor isn't going to learn a lesson from being charged and locked up. This kid offered him cash after getting his stuff back. Can you imagine how shitty you have to feel to steal from a young kid, get caught, have your house searched, give the stuff back and then that kid offers you money cause you're going through a tough time. When the dust settles and youre sitting inside alone with your wife and family, not in jail, and with cash in your hand from the guy you stole from. There's nothing more soul-crushingly embarrassing. Kill em with kindness.", "Hahahahaha, thanks bud ❤️", "> How much you wanna bet this POS is everything he complains about in others.\n\nIt's actually very very common... Not trying to make thing political but usually people in those areas vote GOP only. And the joke I usually see is that actually stands for **G**aslight **O**bstruct & **P**roject; Projecting being what he's presumably guilty of.", "Or the cops realize it’s not worth pursuing a case against a victim’s wishes. Cops would rarely do that, regardless of the suspect’s affiliations with them.", "Also you implied it you didn't need to say it. Anyone with half a brain can see that, who else were you talking about m8? Anything else?", "I'd have sent his ass to jail.", "It was the \"pain pills and few beer\" that was his fucking pathetic scapegoat.", "Yeah some of those LEO have watched his channel and seeing how he conducted himself in this situation most likely gained huge favor with all of them. This guy is SMART. No one with half a brain is going to fuck with him now.", "He would much rather have his viewers see him as a saint than being responsible for a man getting arrested.", "These are the folks who furiously say \"those people\" are felons who should never be allowed to vote again after serving their time...\n\n...all while conveniently forgetting they should be felons too, except that the Good 'Ol Boy authorities seem to always find a way to not prosecute - even when a fellow Good 'Ol Boy is caught red-handed, and the unwritten community expectation is that you only press charges when one of \"those other people\" is caught - cause \"those people\" are the only ones that shouldn't ever be allowed to vote or get a respected job.\n\nI mean, it's obvious \"those people\" make up most of the criminals in society because they're the ones filling up the prisons, right?", "Not really lol \n\nThey have the police calls and the guy admitted to the theft. It's pretty much a slam dunk case.\n\nWhether they actually press charges is another matter.", "People can't take an apology any more, it's heads on pikes or gtfo.", "Also, that was bullshit, because he's claiming it was an impulse, yet there's a history of theft from the property, and he had the awareness to switch to another vehicle, and bring spray paint.", "It’s virtually a guarantee", "Agreed! Made my blood boil.", "As pointed out he is a YouTuber that buys and builds really nice cars mostly, and then just fucking abuses the crap out of them, basically TRYING to break them.\n\nHe either cares about his bank account about as much as he does his possessions, or he knows he's going to net more from the video revenue than whatever he is breaking.\n\nVery entertaining though, ngl.", "He also doesn't need $1400 when he has a thriving YouTube channel to upload this golden video to. I would do the same thing, look how giving the money back wounded them. Their shame is limitless. And we got it on video, fuck yeah. Take it back, the look of humiliation is worth it. And it can be monetized anyways. Win win", "Probably. Or you have zero tolerance.", "Did your see their property? She’s no victim.", "Sounds like a shitty excuse to me. Call it whatever you want.", "I am truth. I am vengeance. I will find out any wrong conclusions on the internet, and bring them to justice.", "Oh he cared alright, did you watch until the end of the video? Most people don't care until they're busted, but he damn sure started caring then.", "most conservatives have what they have cause they're selfish and steal but don't get caught or are protected by their surroundings.", "Prison is not a place you go to get your shit together.", "The person this entire post was about. Not everything is about you", "Ah yeah that’s what we were talking about. But nice to see I’ve been right, since „wait nazis“ is always the last hurrah. Have a nice life bud", "Thanks for the input 👍🏻", "It was so refreshing when it seemed like he was gonna launch into an in-video commercial and instead he just shit-talked the jack company for a minute.", "He should've bonused his production team", "Ah whislin diesel. This video will be good", "Lol but they said\n\n>It doesn't excuse his behavior\n\nSo it doesn't matter what it sounds like.", "Enlighten me, since, I know I’ve not used a small sample size and that’s all this was about, so from my standpoint, there is no way I am incorrect.", "$400 total if you get the 4 packs.", "You're cute, but I never implied that he was or wasn't a narcissist. And you certainly implied that I was one. Try again?", "He fucked him HARD for the entire globe to see. The $1400 was like throwing cash on the floor after the fuck. Gets to be a \"stand up guy\" and also wave his cock about. Well done", "If he saw this comment he'd chuckle and think, job well done.\n\nBut yeah, that hurt...", "People hate in others what they see in themselves.", "this guy is a youtuber with 3 millions subscribers and videos gets millions of views regularly. he can afford to givehis stuff away cause he is multi millionaire just from youtube and can afford to let a couple thousands bucks of crap get stolen and not shame poor people", "“There’s no excuse”, makes 15 excuses", "Well that's the purpose of it, too bad the US has a culture that focuses on punishment rather than rehabilitation. That's more of a roundabout moral failing of the country than anything else, but it doesn't matter. \n\nHe doesn't deserve to get away scot-free. There should be consequences for your actions. \n\nBut he's white in rural America, so he gets a pass.", "You're so right. Old white dudes are so marginalized in this country, we need to fight for their rights.", "Wouldn't that mean him admitting to a DUI??", "I see the money rejection as a pass to post this video. It would feel a bit dirty to take the money and post the video destroying this guy.", "People are having a hard time imagining themselves in that position. I think you're right though!", "Probably because you mentioned you were a car salesman.", "He certainly didn't get much preferential treatment from the cops. They could've dragged their feet on this and gave him time to dispose of all the stolen items. Instead they came back with a search warrant and several detectives within 20 minutes.", "Smalltowns, man.", "He didn’t press charges and gave them money afterwards, damn.", "It’s never okay to steal and nobody deserves to have they’re property stolen. What is wrong with you?", "Of all the side effects mentioned in drug commercials, they don't mention kleptomania.", "Looks good, Imma check this out later.", "and I bet that RV hasn't moved in years. People buy shit like that as a status symbol.", "It's always the people who are super against \"handouts\" and charity and tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstrap.", ">You're forgetting fall and spring too.\n\nNope\n\n>We are missing the hurricanes and major flooding.\n\nYeah, great flood of 93 was just a rumor. There has never been levees breached and other floods either. Definitely no businesses routinely closed or delayed opening due to flooding in previous years. No I definitely don't remember not being able to go to water parks as a kid due to them being flooded out. The Meramec caverns being flooded out. The Ozarks being flooded, nope no major flooding! No floods ever in Oklahoma, other than you know, the handful of significant flash floods.\n\nGet the fuck out. I grew up through that weather shit show. I know it well, and any time I go back it's no different. I guess those events are just my opinion though, they only happened cuz I said they did. I wonder how the people who lost their businesses feel about that, guess I have a lot to apologize for to them.\n\n​\n\n>Didn't know you are a Midwest weather expert.\n\nDon't need to be an expert to watch it happen on the news, look up articles, and look at weather reports. That said even if it was my profession, a meteorologist is one of the few jobs you can come to work, be wrong repeatedly and still have a job.", "Which is a charge of driving under the influence.", "Everyone also knows what he does and sees his videos and knows he's a potential target.\n\nBut he does a good job of dissuading people. I think he wouldn't hesitate to shoot you.\n\nShit, I've seen him shoot himself in the forehead with a 50.cal ricochet.", "I mean sure? If he's not doing it anymore then what's the point now?", "Oh I know several like this. Gets upset every \"someone on foodstamps buys a steak\" video and at all \"those damn illegals\" and meanwhile are massive pieces of shit on benefits themselves.", "How do you know he doesn’t donate a lot of money?", "Bet anyone here $10 dude votes repug", "I was literally screaming this at the screen.", "Seemed like she was so ashamed of her husband, and the guy giving her the money was a deep cutting wound to both of them.", "You can’t say whether it enables or discourages him. Being that we don’t know, we can’t tell whether it was a bad move or not either.", "You are really stretching to make it seem like I think you're relevant. \n\nPost about a dude stealing things\n\nSomeone calls him a narcissist\n\nSomeone else talks about narcissists and shame\n\nI say it's not about shame and describe shitty behaviors from people we all know\n\nYou say that's not a narcisst\n\nI say fine, this person is \"not a narcisst\"\n\nYou can't handle that either", "What does a married couple do with a bunch of hunting bows and truck tail gates? Give them out as gifts to the neighbors?", "Yeah let's protect thieves... Good idea.", "Only appologizing once detectives have obtained a search warrant and have started searching for the stolen property, and then blaming why you stole the property on pain pills and alcohol is a pretty cheap appology.", "Sure, if you want to ignore literally everything else he said around that.\n\nI know you want to pretend his saying \"I have no excuse\" doesn't count, but if you're just picking and choosing which of his words matter and which don't, you're just making my point: that you've already decided about him. Anything the man says is irrelevant. You're angry and you want blood. \n\nI'm not saying he isn't a piece of shit. I have no idea if this will stop him from stealing again, if he's stolen before, if his wife was in on it. I'm just saying I get the guy letting him go. I get what he's trying to do. Kid is rich and took that into context.\n\nIt's fascinating to me how people are processing all this.", "Watch it bro.", "To pander to his audience and show what a good guy he is.\n\nNot saying he isn’t a good guy, I know nothing about him, but I find it interesting that he only cares about himself getting stolen from, not seeming to be concerned with the plight of other victims.", "Why should there be more consequences than the embarrassment and restitution?\n\nAre you saying a black person living on that same property would have been treated differently?", "Wait yeah you're right he straight up admitted it multiple times. Prolly just rural cops not wanting to charge someone.", "Why didn't he press charges. Fucking bullshit.", "I really don't get what people have against YouTubers and have to act like this. My favourite YouTuber, Shawn James/myselfreliance had to **move**( from the log house he built with his own goddamn hands) because his neighbour would blare music on the property line at all hours of the day so that James couldn't film. Real shitty move.", "He was probably watching the property. The owner did say he stayed there for a only short time and then stopped living there.", "Yeah - she's a straight up co-dependent.", "I always have about 2K in cash readily available for emergencies and there’s an ATM 2 blocks from me. \n\nI don’t actually know why I do now that I think about it, but I do. It was instilled in me by my grandparents—maybe a depression era cash in the mattress thing?\n\nIt’s definitely come in handy more times than I can count", "True story when I was a kid I was a garbage man in a super small rural town and the guy that worked with me in the back of a truck got beat to death and thrown facedown in a pond for stealing chainsaws from farmers and got caught", "Sure I'd be happy to just get my stuff back, but if I could get my stuff back and see the person who stole it and handcuffed in the back of a squad car that would be even better.", "Lmao!!!!", "I appreciate your viewpoint on this, it’s spot on.", "I was on the same page as you until I read the last line, I don't care for Trump but you don't have to mouth vomit politics into everything dumbass", "Unless it has the word jackbooted in front of it, then it's for a totally different race", "You nailed it! I spent decades with someone like this. I will never recover, and will never stop replaying the many arguments in my head, but it sure is better being free!", "With neighbors like this who needs enemies?", "I didn't hear an apology.", "I suppose. I'm just very jaded when I see a 'too good to be true' outcome in a video.", "I thought it was more of like a we watch your stuff all the time, I can't believe he stole from you. Like she was in disbelief he stole from someone they both knew of and enjoyed the content of. Could be wrong though", "> The man wasn't making excuses.\n\nSure sounded like excuses.", "Jeez, a little pent up aggression eh?", "Exactly.... 1400$ is nothing compared to being the local pariah.", "Truth hurts doesn’t it? Enjoy your cult.", "That's probably what set him off. To him he was a entitled millennial that didn't have to work a real job like he did so fuck him I'm gonna take his stuff that he didn't earn though a life of miserable clock punching.", "Guess it's part of the American everyone for themselves and fuck the rest/Maverick -culture.", "He trashes trucks that are worth more than I make a year routinely. Hurts to watch, especially that MINT Hilux.", "I think that’s a complete bullshit excuse he’s using. People take pills and drink a beer all the time and it does not result in this. He sprayed the cameras… he knew what he was doing", "Yes and fucking obviously Yes.", "Imagine letting someone you've never met live in your head rent free.\n\nBasement dweller lol", "So the old rich white guy was forgiven by the young rich white guy for pre-meditated theft.\n\nFuck this shit.", "Because of the distributive principle he is proposing. He is distributing the burden of the crime based upon the idea that a person who has no knowledge of the crime shared in the gain. The distributive theory of Justice relies heavily on the concepts of assigning social burdens/benefits based upon these intersections. It’s straight up a bad take on social Justice which is informed by Marx.", "In this case, they actually mediated a non-court solution. Pretty amazing if you think about it.", "Holy cow! For once someone knows how old an actual boomer is. He has seen the 1950s!\n\nI was fully expecting yet another genz yelling ‘boomer’ as an ageist slur at a millennial or genx again.\n\nBesides that this guy was terrible. But I still don’t know why you gotta get all ageist. Porch pirates come in all ages. Enough security cam footage support this evidence.", "He's just making an excuse. Has nothing to do with reddit. The only thing to do is say he was wrong and and idiot. Not some story. You're just gullible or inexperienced.\n\nI would have probably done what the youtuber did too and told him to pay for my shit and let him off, but I wouldn't listen to some shit excuse. The dude is old, he's not remorseful. That's just how he is. It's most definitely not the first time he's done something like this. This isn't a \"one time thing\" where he \"slipped up\".", "In that case he chose to drive while so fucked up he'd supposedly commit crimes he never would have otherwise. So that's ANOTHER massive issue on top of the theft. Dude shouldn't have a license if that's his excuse.", "So, I always get talked down to by christians for saying that the bible is “just a book”, but Dante’s Inferno is literally just a novel… why do people talk about it like some kind of guidebook to some real place?", "By you watching his videos.", "I'm also fascinated how *some* people are processing this. Are you his nephew?\n\nHe can get on his knees and start crying while kissing the victims feet but it's all completely negated by the fact he mentioned the pills and beer. Dude is a fucking scumbag.", "Lmao red necks are dumb as fuuuuuh lmao", "I don't know. I've been there before. Not in terms of stealing and police involved. But in terms of getting caught doing something stupid/wrong and your first reaction being to do anything you can to escape the consequences. You get defensive before you get smart. You still think you have an out. Until you're cornered and stuck facing it.\n\nI can see why you'd think it's cheap. I guess what it all comes down to is whether you feel like the apology was manipulative or not. I agree with the kid making the video and didn't think it was.\n\nThe guy is definitely a piece of shit. But the kid is a rich YouTuber and doesn't need the money, and is literally *making* money filming all this so he's not wasting his time either. So he's taking that all into context when he decides to forgive the guy. So it felt like the right end. Shame goes a long way in changing people.\n\nEither way, it's fascinating watching people get so angry about this.", "Weird cause I’ve voted for him twice and I never think about him.", "I asked why. And what leads you to believe that black people that own large pieces of land in the sticks are treated particularly poorly by the cops compared to their white counterparts?", "It’s called being a bigger person. Being a better person. Wtf is with the cynicism over being grateful. So sorry y’all have been so hurt.", "Mentally challenged and inbred", "25k* trucks", "What if he has white friends?", "Empathy and nuance?! Why I never!", "Yeah, that was a little heartbreaking. She was so upset that her husband had done this.", "It's a problem, but unlikely a danger to anyone. Looks like they're pretty far out there.", "Same - for a young guy he stayed pretty composed. I was impressed that he stayed in his vehicle on the road until it was time to load up his stuff. As someone a little older, I am not sure I would have been that patient.", "\n“It doesn't make us cynical and if anything you're the cynical one who's upset other people judge character harsher (and arguably, more fairly) than you.”\n\nJudging people harshly is cynical. It’s a reflection of how you judge yourself. Treat yourself and others with acceptance. Every single person has a reason for their actions no matter how fucked up it is. Doesn’t mean you have to excuse it. But it’s nice to understand it.", "I guarantee that wasn't the first time the old guy stole from people in the neighborhood. It's probably a hobby of sorts for him and he escapes suspicion because he fits the profile of a honest old man who worked hard for what he has.", "No need to refer to that Caucasian male the horrible offensive “r-word”. You might get banned for that on other platforms like I don’t know… Twitch, for example.", "Pull up them boot straps!", "> It doesn't make us cynical and if anything you're the cynical one who's upset other people judge character harsher (and arguably, more fairly) than you.\n\n🤔", "In my opinion he should’ve pressed charges. You can forgive the person in your heart but people need to learn there are consequences to their actions. Personal responsibility and all that. He would understand.", "I would have slapped the guy in front of the cops. Full palm.", "I would have to wonder what would have happened if he wasn't a older white guy?", "I mean that’s completely dependent upon where you live and practice. \n\nI am a prosecutor and we absolutely won’t pursue theft cases without a cooperating victim. The only cases we pursue without cooperation are crimes of violence.", "No bud, this is the way that happened. I don't think I'm relevant, because not one of us on this planet is relevant, we're in an infinite universe that's constantly expanding, you think I have the audacity to think, I or anything on this earth fucking matters? You know the only thing that matters here? Your family. Your lover. The people you can speak to. That's what fucking matters. And even that doesn't matter in the grand scale of things. Our sun blows up, our solar system dies, some more galaxies do it, eventually everything is stretched so thin we reach the heat death of the universe. You think I give a fuck about this retarded ass conversation ? You presented false information. I have half a brain. I feel pretty goddamn obligated to correct you, because you're perpetuating a false narrative that, from what I've seen you believe. You also misunderstood what the fuck I was saying. This dude is certainly a narcissist. 100% he is. But he is ashamed. If you can't see that on his face and in his mannerisms, than you're dull. That's why I made the assumption you were talking about me. Because anytime anyone in this fucking retarded ass society is told they're wrong they don't shut the fuck up and listen (including me btw, I'm guilty of this, we all are .) They argue their point and leave no room for another point. Do you really genuinely think that at any level that's constructive for you, me, our society, or anything? I apologize for hurting your feelings when I came in and told you the fact of the matter. But that's not my problem and it's not my job to explain anything else to you. Fuck off. Once again never once said, about this dude, that he's not a narcissist. You misunderstood my point.", "The suv didn't have a rear plate did it?\n\nI swear the guy was even arguing about that with the police as in \"well you've got a video but it doesn't prove it was me because the car in the video doesn't have a license plate on the back of it\".", "You can tell how embarrassed of himself he is because he won't shut up about his retarded line of thinking. \n\nNobody cares that you didn't have it in you to use a bow that you stole, fuckface.", "Agree", "\"Old guy blames his compulsions on young people's behavior\" is the message here. What a dick.", "> Are you his nephew?\n\nWhat?", "God damn this boomer is a piece of shit", "I almost believed him that he was a little messed up, saw the opportunity and wasn’t think straight. UNTIL they both said they watch his videos. “That rich YouTuber down the street has some pretty nice stuff, he’s not there anymore, I’m sure he won’t miss it.” Then premeditates it to the max.", "Should've pressed charges. This man has lived his whole live without consequences.", "I had spinal fusion last year, pain killers are like cream in my morning coffee.", ">This was not a drunk on pills plan.\n>\n>He scoped it out, spotted the cameras, came back with spray paint, removed his license plate, and hid everything.\n>\n>They should have told the YouTuber guy that were going to arrest him anyway, it's not really up to the owner of the stuff whether he get arrested. And the YouTuber guy is really naive to believe his sob story.\n\nProbably figured he could get more views with his clown of a neighbor running free. \n\nAlso, it might not be worth making enemies with your neighbor(s) who are more likely to band together with people they grew up with than someone new to town.\n\nPissing someone off with jail/arrest could be the exact thing to initiate a blood family feud. But choosing to squash a beef with someone who wronged you when you are the only thing standing between them and a consequence just might get the neighborhood to accept you and let you live in peace.", "If you only have remorse after being caught, what you're actually showing is embarrassment.", "Oh yeah baby, I'm madddd", "Hopefully he and his wife sit down together this Christmas and read every comment in here.", ">Sure, he was shamed, but what about all the other thieves?\n\nWhat about the next person down the road who this guy robs? He only got caught this time because the victim was extremely well prepared. If he pleads guilty and gets probation, the probation officer can check his property every time a similar crime happens. They could impose drug tests. A lot of people who get into crime in middle age have an addiction; his vague excuse included \"pills\". The criminal justice system isn't great at helping people with that, but people need to face their problems one way or another.\n\nI don't know about their local law enforcement resources, policy, etc. But as you point out, the system doesn't hesitate to do this to minorities.", "The lead paint generation is at it again.", "Where I am, land is very cheap. If the sheriff is coming out, he is also living in a place with cheap land. But I agree, he doesn't seem to need money.", "Cock sucking is a compliment, not an insult.", "Same.\n\nIt was basically all peer pressure, and the only thing I ever stole from actual neighbors was like a pile of wood with my buddies and we brought it to the beach down the hill and had a fire. One of my neighbors always had wood piled in his garage all year, so my drunk ass was like, he never uses it, let's go use it. \n\nThen there was the time I was hammered and went to a 7/11. Buddies said we need a lighter. I was underage so couldn't buy one. When the guy was ringing up my Slurpee or whatever I bought, I tried to take a single lighter out of one of those plastic cases full of them, and I was so drunk I fumbled it and the case flew off the counter and everything was all over the floor. I just remember the clerk giving me that look, like seriously dude?I said sorry and just left.\n\nIt was just awesome the next day or so when I went back there sober. It was great, because it was the gas station right near my house, so I was 100% going to run into this clerk again. I just told the dude my bad I was drunk as fuck. He's like, yeah, I know, it's all good.\n\nJust a few little things like that when I was a teen. Grew out of that quick.", "you should litterally burn his fucking house down", "I’m sure that your singular experience is all of rural New York and all of rural Texas", "I’d chock that up to not wanting additional paperwork. Not having to eventually go to trial and deal with all that stuff.", "Boredom and jealousy", "There's a lot more demand for construction materials in rural areas and people that live in those areas know how to move stolen goods. There's always someone repairing a barn or building a shed and unless you're part of the community you wouldn't know how to move it and if you're trying to sell that stuff as an outsider they'll all assume it's stolen and wouldn't want to take the risk. But if it's your neighbors cousin just trying to unload extra materials...\n\nPeople in the city wouldn't know what to do with a pile of lumber as most people in the city either live in apartments and never need to buy their own materials because landlords but it or on small properties and the most material they'll ever need is if they decide to build a porch or small gazebo.", "My step father was similar to this guy. Making up excuses for doing bad things.", "Lol enjoy getting run over by unremorseful people. This dude is probably in his late 50s. He's not a child. This wasn't a \"slip up\".", "That we ended all of this with a cliff hanger for PART TWO!?!? *chef’s kiss*", "Oh, it wasn’t that I didn’t like his answer, It was more the second hand embarrassment of having to say sorry or explain why you stole someone’s stuff.", "\"I believe, I believe, I believe.\"\n\nWell, *I* believe you're an uninformed idiot who is doing exactly what people are accusing you of: Basing your views on nothing more than some Reddit posts and videos.\n\nAnd of *course* you're now just digging in when you could have spent two seconds educating yourself.\n\n\"Germany: Thefts per 100,000 people, 2003 - 2016: For that indicator, we provide data for Germany from 2003 to 2016. The average value for Germany during that period was 2073 thefts per 100,000 people with a minimum of 1516 thefts per 100,000 people in 2009 and a maximum of 3043 thefts per 100,000 people in 2003.\" -[source](https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Germany/theft/)\n\n\"USA: Thefts per 100,000 people, 2003 - 2016: For that indicator, we provide data for the USA from 2003 to 2016. The average value for the USA during that period was 2062 thefts per 100,000 people with a minimum of 1750 thefts per 100,000 people in 2016 and a maximum of 2415 thefts per 100,000 people in 2003.\" -[source](https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/USA/theft/)\n\nNow go ahead move the goalposts or change the narrative or pretend you were *actually* saying something else or whatever else your kind does to avoid admitting they were talking out of their ass.", "This YouTuber is insufferable, because I live in rural America meta keeps suggesting this shit even though I constantly say it sucks and don't want to see it on my feed.", "Pressing charges is something you really need to think about. It’s not the best move in some situations. \n\nIn HS there was this pos thug from another HS who’d always go around getting in fights and beating people up. One day he beat up a good friend of mine with zero provocation. The kid got arrested over it. His parents called my friend’s parents with a sob story about how it’d ruin his life & his chance at college. And my friend’s parents bought it and dropped the charges. \n\nI was always very pissed about that. \n\nI think if someone is violent, or is committing crime due to an extreme drug problem (probably not the guy in the video, because he still had all the stuff, whereas a junkie would’ve sold it immediately), then you really need to press charges. For their own good and everyone else’s good. \n\nBut this guy in the video... he probably wouldn’t lose his house over the arrest. He’d still be your neighbor. There’s no chance he steals from you again. Everyone else in the community will have their eyes on him. \n\nBy pressing charges you’d only create an angry neighbor who may retaliate, when instead you can make him into a “frienemy”. I think he did the right thing not pressing charges.", "I don't mind it, I'm aware that I have my own issues. Are you aware of yours?", "Everything's gotta be political... smh", "But if nothing else. I know for a fact I didn't come across as ignorant", "*checks spelling*\n\n>ARE YOU HIS NEPHEW?", "White privilege", "How you have your nearest neighbour a 30 minute walk away, and you're still an asshole neighbour.", "He came back with paint AFTER stealing stuff. Except he only got two of the 3 cameras. And they were covered in large antenna so it was super obvious they were wireless. I watched the whole vid last time it was posted. Guy got his stuff back, asshole boomer doesnt get in trouble. I would not be \"ok\" with not pressing charges.", "Where were the guns for one?", "Nobody that watches this guy probably cares about some old random dude. Also, people on the internet/social media are outraged for like 5 minutes and then on to the next outrage.", "This video has 2.5 million views in 2 days, which is probably worth more than $300,000. If someone finds the skid he'll probably make far more than the reward money with the video he creates about it.", "So in addition to this being the only time he stole, we’re also to believe that he’ll never drink beer or take pills again?", "No it didn’t. He said “no excuse” over and over and just plainly explained his actions.", "More ppl upvoted the correction than your original comment, so more ppl like them than you", "Are you new to America in 2021? If you don’t like it, tell Fox News and the rest to stop it.", "I don’t think he thought they needed it. He says that the guy is “well off” and anyone with eyes can see that as well. Not to mention the their repeatedly states “it’s not about money”", "Exactly my thought. Keeps repeating “no excuse, no excuse.” But then feels the need to add that he was drinking and on pain pills…that’s him impulsively trying to make an excuse. Which actually just makes things worse for him. \n\n“You see officer, it’s not like I just rolled up and stole his shit. What actually happened is I mixed pain meds and alcohol, THEN got in my car, rolled up, and stole his shit.”", "Privileged. Hth.", "Doesn’t that depend on the crime? And in the charging the goods would them be evidence so it would be a while until he gets them back right?", "My in-laws live in Texas and last month made the drive all the way up to New Jersey to spend a couple of months with my sister in law and her kids. Two weeks into the stay they got notifications on their security system that people were on the property. They called the police and the police found that someone had broken into their barn and stolen their four Wheeler and a bunch of tools. So they had to drive all the way back.\n\nThing is they are both unvaccinated against COVID, and my father in law has some pretty horrendous pre existing conditions. Two weeks ago my sister in law and both of her kids were diagnosed with COVID. So the irony of this whole thing is that the people who broke into my in laws barn probably saved my father in laws life. You'd think that would inspire him to get vaccinated, it didn't.", "Seriously, state prosecutor should look over this even if the clout chasing moron doesnt care.", "This dude is BSing people, most unpleasant person on YT.", "“They made their choice…” \n\nI can just hear him saying it 😂", "I feel like you never met manipulative people. These are standard stuff. \n\n\"There is no excuse\", \"It was all my fault\", \"I'm ashamed of what I've done\" \n\n\nThey say all of these BUT ONLY AFTER they've been cornered. Most lie to your face even if you have evidence if you don't get authorities involved.", "https://www.psypost.org/2020/09/people-who-are-high-in-vulnerable-narcissism-are-more-likely-to-feel-shame-on-a-daily-basis-58026\n\n\nI was in therapy for a long time figuring out how to not be a narcissistic manipulative bastard. \n\nShame is felt almost constantly. Sometimes guilt but that develops after the fact and it’s very seldom, at least in my case. The shame thing is pretty universal tho.", "300k reward holy shit.... I never see missing humans with rewards like that", "I have a feeling if the scenario was the other way around, had his stuff stolen, this cunt would have absolutely pressed charges because he's a cunt.", "You should watch it, very interesting and well put together. Definitely not staged.", "Older people do. I used to work at a bank and older folks often end up having a stash of cash or carrying a lot with them. They always had the most money in their accounts.", "Fertilizer?! Naw, read up on rendering plants, that shit get eaten.", "He said it in the video , he's DREAMED of catching and having a confrontation with a thief ever since he was a kid. He doesn't need the money. This video alone will hurt far more and much longer than any charges he could press.", "And maybe a reason for a little jealousy on the man's side. Like \"all this kid does is make videos and he makes too much money\" type of thing. Idk what to think about this video.", "Whistling diesel. He customized a $100,000 Ford truck just to destroy it", "Also time of post is incredibly important. That one was posted at midnight EST/5AM UTC. One of the worst times you can post on Reddit. This one was posted at a time that rides the wave of the European morning crowd into the US morning crowd.", "Your sample size is, \"I've browsed some Reddit in my time.\"\n\nYou do understand that you can *look it up* and review actual crime data that flat-out *proves* you're incorrect, don't you?\n\nGermany's rates of theft and burglary per capita are about identical to the U.S.'s. There are loads of sources on this with verified data, *actual* data, that are about two clicks away for anyone who isn't intellectually lazy.", "I haven’t even watched the whole video yet. I just got to the part where he said he moved here 8 months ago and moved out 7 months ago because of his neighbors. \n\nI’ve never heard anything more relatable in my life", "fuck this piece of shit", "People usually only apologize when they see consequences of their actions, yes.", "True, this is what most religious people believe but only because they are too dumb to read into their own religion. \n\nRoman Catholic rules: The only true way into heaven is by having accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Not talking about him or saying he died so you can sin. You must truly believe, in your heart of hearts, that Jesus is your personal savior or you will not be admitted to the kingdom of God. God also does not see sin in levels- rape, murder, thievery, are all sins- they have different punishments but Bad is bad.", "waiting for part 2- the skid loader returns", "I live in a very rural area similar to that - and word travels fast whenever theres gossip to be had. No joke, the gas station attendants and grocery store clerks will 100% know about it. His social life in that area is ruined.", "You’d be surprised how much this happens out in the country. Most of the time there isn’t enough evidence for the police to gain a search warrant. Not many people have the hindsight and expenses for proper security measures like this YouTuber, I’m glad he got his stuff back but I guarantee this isn’t the first time or last time that piece of shit steals something.", "Why? What would it matter if he was religious?", "Entitled \\*sshole. Thinks his stuff and station gives him the right to take advantage of people -- until he got caught and the police showed up. Then, he realized how close all of that would be taken away, and he turns into a pleading child. Probably the first time in his life he's ever faced the possibility of real consequences for his actions.\n\nSort of surprised how he got off with just some embarrassment. I mean, maybe this is how these things should work, but it's a huge difference from how, say, a black kid in my city would fare in the same situation.\n\nEdit: Adding a thought -- I grew up in a little town like this. If anyone got in trouble -- stealing, speeding, whatever -- if you were from the town, the cops would go to your parents instead of pressing charges. Or if there was a fight or something, they'd just write it off as young kids acting young, or whatever. Which is probably the way we should handle it! But it makes you wonder if crime stats in rural areas are way off from what's actually happening. I literally feel more safe in my city with an increasing murder rate than I would back in my little home town hanging out at the local bar, say.", "In the boonies in Texas you'll find A LOT of drug abuse which goes hand in hand with stealing. Small towns are known to have Substance Abuse problems and the substances vary depending on the area. It still does not excuse theft though for what its worth.\n\nWhen you love out there (as a lot of my family has) cops take at least an hour to show on occasion because the policy force is either out of town or a handful of volunteers with 1 Sheriff. It's actually pretty tragic how some of our smaller towns have been left to find for themselves", "Empathy is lost on this website, but thanks for bringing a little bit back. I do believe this guy is an asshole but a remorseful one that won’t steal again.", "Sure, there are scummy salespeople, but there are also scummy laywers, doctors, plummers, and landscapers. I think that because we're a sales profession, with a high churn rate, most people tend to stuck with a salesperson who really has zero idea what the heck they're doing, and that makes the situation worse. I contribute in /r/askcarsales and some of the things I hear of other salespeople doing are so head-slappingly silly (or reasonable but not explained well) that I'm pretty sure they're turning these salespeople loose with little to no training.\n\nGives the profession a bad name. Now, F&I guys? They're the real demons.", "Yeah I feel like it doesn't take too strong of moral character to not go break into property and steal everything and spray paint the cameras on the way.", "Lol you’re not very good at trolling", "Lol Cody was really fishing for the dude to say he was going through hard times before giving the money back, but instead the guy says \"I was just driving around drunk and on pills and I saw your stuff\"", "And look how fast he wanted to shove money down his throat to make himself feel better", "Random guy steals stuff.\n\n“Guaranteed trump voter”\n\nRent free", "\"Shaming from social media\" \n\nLol nobody will give a shit about this guy after a couple of hours.", "Ok, so you haven’t read what I said at all. Nice research, sadly doesn’t apply to what I’ve claimed at all. Good talk tho, gerne wieder", "I think he handed the money back because of the dude’s wife being so upset. I doubt he would have otherwise, he said before that point “write a check and we’ll call it even”", "I agree with you that there's a difference between attempting to justify your actions and explaining what led to your actions in the moment. Some of his statements were boardline excusive but he was obviously emotional at the time. I believe he felt genuinely guilty and not just for getting caught.\n\nThat being said it is a common trait for thieves to not be able to justify their actions. Some people just act compulsively as he said himself.", "I’m the worst! I try every now and then but I’m really just a regular Reddit user.", "It's amazing how cheap it is to buy off a Senator or Congressman here and there, meanwhile fucking over the country.", "“There’s no excuse…” *proceeds to babble multiple excuses*", "Because he knows he can afford it and it portrays him as even more of a hero.", "Once the police show up and forcibly remove items, I don't think the \"thank you for returning my stuff\" is relevant.", "Why is this guy getting his stuff stolen so much? Maybe invest in some sort of lock or something.", "The money doesn't mean as much to him, Whistlin Diesel wants those sweet sweer YouTube views.", "I think that he deserves the benefit of the doubt that this particular incident isn't representative of a pattern without evidence of a pattern.", "Seems crazy. Money for nothing and we're out busting our asses", "No you wouldn’t, you would’ve stood there and let him talk and then said “don’t worry about it, we all make mistakes”.", "It's awful, but it's pretty much how societies have run for millenia. David Graeber, a sadly deceased anthropologist, talked about it in his book \"Debt\". It manifests differently in every era, but overall there's communism (however defined) for the ruling class and austerity for the poor. Big club, you ain't in it.", "As a guy with older parents and their friends who all strictly use cash in a rural area… I strongly disagree. Mine particularly always pulled out the Christmas shopping cash. Or being that this guy clearly had plenty of toys I imagine he does plenty of Craigslist deals. I know the dude is trash but there are plenty of other good explanations as to why they have cash. I know redditors are great at making assumptions, but it’s also probably one of the worst and most annoying parts about this platform.", "He’s already the better person because he didn’t steal anyones stuff. If we can all just go around stealing and the only repercussion is giving it back then why is it illegal?\n\nWould the thief had this moral epiphany had he not got caught?\n\nThe cynicism comes from this guy stole and destroyed thousands of dollars of someone else’s property while driving around under the influence and NOTHING happened to him. If that doesn’t make you cynical about the world we live in you might be delusional", "Yes, I have the opposite anecdote! My mom has roots in rural Texas, and moved back in her early 50s. She lived and still lives there as a single woman and has never had her shit stolen- in 15 years. So...I guess some people move into more methy areas. Also my mom had lived there until she graduated high school so maybe others saw her as a \"local\".", "Also if the victim doesn't want to go to court it makes prosecution harder. They'd had any evidence already sent to them, but probably wouldn't be able to get sworn testimony.", "According to one of the police (who commented on the video, if this is the original). The old guy has just spent his entire pension (and other cash sources presumably) for medical expenses. Not that this excuses his actions, but it does change the motive.", "Can you absolutely define worst for the class?", "I seen this exact same video yesterday with a completely different caption on it..... it's like the WWE reused content is atrocious", "Exactly lol. Opiods are fun, but they never made me want to steal things.", "They said they watch his show. Now they have to see themselves on it identified as thieves. That's gonna really sting.", "As a fellow country bumpkin I can assure you that anyone who isn’t scraping by has more than that amount of cash on hand. Rednecks are all about cash, trade, and keeping Uncle Sam away from any profits of those transactions. Plus you need it when you want to buy a boat on the side of the road that has a good deal on it.", "No, not particularly. Still not very uncommon behavior.", "Camera? What camera? Where? I didn’t see no camuruh", "He 100% was armed. He literally stole weapons.", "Pretty sure it's near Murfreesboro, TN.", ">Shame is from society, guilt is from within.\n\nBoth are feelings ergo both are from within. You may feel shame because society says you shouldn't be gay (for example) but you can also feel shame for fucking up at work or blundering a social situation", "When a crime is committed, the victim is society writ large as well as the individual directly affected. That’s the reason we distinguish criminal from civil law. \n\nSo even if the individual victim does not want any charges to move forward, the prosecutor may still determine the crime against society made the defendant sufficiently culpable to advance the case. \n\nHere there was only one victim, it was one isolated incident, and the victim was made whole again. The person who committed the crimes apologized and doesn’t seem like he’ll ever do it again. Unless there is a hugely beneficial deterrent effect of locking the dude up, a prosecutor may focus other things.", "\"Cops will usually not arrest someone if the victim of the crime says not to, but that is a courtesy from them.\"\n\nAbsolutely false statement.", "It's such a shitty, violating feeling having your belongings rummaged through and taken. It doesn't even matter the value of the stuff they take. But the fact that a stranger entered your property and their grubby hands went through your belongings feels terrible.", "> And remember: these people vote Trump.\n\nFTFY", "That was some good content. Very well done. Even giving the money back and making them cry. \nWell done", "Lol. Democracy is such a joke this is what we’ve come to. “Just vote against the people you don’t like and that’s enough”. Laughable. Meanwhile the people you do like bomb the fuck out of the third world indiscriminately. But you did your civic duty by voting against the dumb dumbs.", "This entire video was obnoxious", "It's probably just you, tbh. Texans hate New Yorkers and Californians who move to Texas to gentrify the place and act like they're better than the (often Black and latinx) locals.", "Yeah fuck that guy", "I don’t think he was shifting blame as much as explaining his actions. He said a thousand times “it’s no excuse” so he was obviously communicating that he’s not making excuses for himself. Thinking stuff is abandoned is absolutely an explanation (read: NOT justification) for stealing something.", "This. I’m always cynical of any large YouTube channel ‘giving away money’. They know exactly what they’re doing, it’s an investment.", "He even knew who WD was. At the end he mentioned seeing his videos. Dude just thought he copped a quick one.", "I interpreted it as tagging your expensive things so that you can find them.", "Yeah if he accepted the money it allows the thief to feel like he set things right. Not taking it robs the thief of that which is honestly worse punishment.", "I think it’s hilarious how fast the situation escalated, police got a search warrant within the hour.", "Who’s this fucking rich hippie that thinks he’s like being a good dude and whatever brah.", "I'm very fucking proud of you. Learning to be self aware, and then going from there is a scary experience. Be the breaker of the cycle, you got it dude.", "He took plates off of another vehicle and put them on the back of his old truck that \"doesn't have plates on it\", which is illegal.", "Fuck that. Charge that piece of shit.", "Jesus Christ, you're predictable.", "His logic and reasoning is that he was ddiving under the influence thats why he stole his neighbors shit?", "Step, bump. Step, bump bump. Pas de beret, kickball change", "Should be taking pills for his klepto", "It's an observation backed by decades of statistics. Black Americans get stopped, searched, arrested, and sentenced more than white Americans for crimes that are done at the same rate. Weed is used equally but if you have more melanin, you are 4x more likely to go to jail for it.", "You're not wrong, you're just an asshole. And yeah the Midwest is quite large and some other asshole caused the great flood of 93, which was devastating. All of my prior comments apply to the upper Midwest.", "As a hunter, there is nothing more insanely frustrating dealing with assholes who steal and deface your property, over fucking DEER. The irony is I haven't had a single issue hunting public land, only private.", "Well said. And excusive is a great word.", "Only white people can get away with admitting to drinking and driving while on pills in front of cops and detectives and having thousands of dollars of property damage and theft and walk away 100% Scott free.", "A lot of psychological terms get thrown around these days by people who have the basest layman's understanding of them - narcissist, psychopath, sociopath, etc.", "i like beer", "It's fine that he keeps repeating \"don't harass this family, leave them alone\" etc. But man do i dislike the fact that he says \"because people make mistakes, we all make mistakes\". \nConsciously making the choice to steal and going through all that trouble to steal shit, is not a fucking mistake.", "He didn't even apologize once in the video. Saying \"there's no good excuse\" is not an apology. A detailed confession is not an apology. I was really hoping to hear an I'm sorry at least once. This guy only feels bad that he was caught.", "Exactly, the dude is in his late 50s probably. This isn't a \"slip up\", that's just who he is.", "Sure, I can admit to being a bit cynical, but that’s only because I’ve had my property stolen before. What people are lamenting here is the lack of justice that was served. You think that giving this guy back his $1400 is justice? He committed a serious fucking crime and legally speaking he’s getting a slap on the fucking wrist. People are tired of seeing people like the perp in this video not have consequences for their shitty behavior. Getting embarrassed on camera and in front of your wife is only a fraction of the actual consequences this dude needs to face.", "Same. I was almost surprised at how offensive I found it - cause I watch some pretty miserable stuff", "I was waiting for handcuffs. \n\nLeft disappointed.", "It takes a normal channel about 150 uploads to start making good money on YT :)", "I mean it’s funny because the YouTuber even gives him an out, he says “I get it, sometimes people go through difficult times” and the dude is too proud/dumb to take it and says “but look around, I’m not even having a hard time” lmao \n\nI did turn it off once they started talking to the guy though.", "He probably has guns and openly fantasizes about using it on thieves", ">As it stands, there is zero punishment. \n\nMillions of people now know the face of a man from a small town who is a thief. Almost all of us will never him, but we know him.", "He's taking the high road. Look incredibly polite, pleasant, thankful, just to rub it in the thief's fucking face (in front of the thief's wife).", "I agree with you. They don't genuinely know what these disorders entail. It's a sad reality we live in man.", "And, their vote counts more than yours, generally speaking.", "Love the power play. \n\n\"I don't need the money, and I want you to know that.\"", "Thieves always justify their actions in their heads, and to them they’re not wrong even when caught. You never catch them the first time, so if you catch someone stealing trust that they have done it before and will continue because they’ve already made it okay in their head.", "He stole all of that stuff too", "He reinvests in the channel. \n\nNo idea how rich he actually is", "What he did in this video, is very far from zero punishment in the rural south. The social backlash will be more than you could imagine. He’ll be shunned at whatever Baptist church he attends, looks, pointing and whispers everywhere he goes. I could list more but you get the idea.", "He said he watches his videos in this video, the victim here is WhistlinDiesel. Def saw him destroying trucks and blowing money and got jealous “oh he doesn’t need this stuff then” type", "Just for another data point, I've lived in Texas my whole life and left stuff out in the yard as a kid and left the garage open for hours and I've never had anything stolen from me. I think my mom had a GPS stolen from her car maybe 15 years ago.", "Seriously. Criminal and Civil charges are not one in the same...", "Reddit will take any and every opportunity to shit on the police.", "Reddit moment. You see a white rural dude steal some shit so you assume he’s also a racist. Never change (just kidding, I know you can’t).", "He is a lying thief, should have pressed charges and locked his criminal ass up.", "Yeah right, she knows exactly who her husband is. She just rolls her eyes and nags that he might get caught one day. All while doing nothing.", "Nah.. I would've pressed charges. Case closed", "Glad I'm not alone in that. Dude had absolutely nothing and he still tried to talk his way out it being his own fault. Just apologize and say you fucked up and you're sorry. It doesn't even have to be genuine but it would infinitely better than the first 15 seconds of \"apology\" I made it through.\n\nNow all of his neighbors will know he's a theif and will see his garbage non-apology.", "Well if a truck like the limited he destroyed costs 100k. And he probably got 10 videos out of it he only needs 10k per video to break even.", "...I want fuck you money", "You can take the high road and send the guy to jail for his crime. That’s why theft is illegal\n\nWe’re all skirting over the fact this douche admitted to being fucked up and driving as well. Why is him being let go scot free being seen as a good thing??", "I guess I thought there were offenses that required the victim to press charges.", "Reddit justice is just death penalty for any crime", "I don't. Just used it as a reference to explain the frivolous spending.\n\nIt's fair to say there's a substantial difference between net taxable income, and total income before write offs, investments, and philanthropy.\n\nFor the exact same reasons someone may appear wealthy on paper, when in actuality their poor financial decisions or tax debt leave them destitute. Like Wesley Snipes or Willie Nelson.", "Garage sale, junk yard, there's a hundred excuses he could come up with", ">genious \n\n\n…", "He got out of it is the wild thing… then blamed it on alcohol and pain pills… apparently he needs rehab", "That's not what she was saying. Yes, she has heard that he's well off. But despite that, she expected him to take the money, and wanted him to take the money. She was humiliated about what her husband did, and they're gonna have lots of really uncomfortable conversations about what he did, especially after the word gets out around town that her husband is a thief.", "I wouldn't have had to patience to listen to that bullshit. His bunch of excuses followed by claiming that he had no excuse. Like, damn. We all know you're full of shit. Just give me my stuff and go to jail.", "They deserve to go to jail.", "If he’s truly battling addiction I hope he finds help ASAP. If he’s using it as a bullshit excuse he’s a piece of shit", "The narcissist (I agree) in this video is a thief and should have been prosecuted. I'm not big on the stereotyping... saying boomers have \"suffered a narcissism epidemic\" is like saying all black people act like criminal thugs. Or all millennials suffer an entitlement epidemic. Or all Gen Ys have no accountability.", "It’s a rural property. And he actually moved away from this place like he says in the video because of issues like this.", "My dad's workshop was broken into and a whole bunch of shit was stolen by dipshit hillbillies like this a long time ago. I am going to bask in this justice.", "Xoomer my guy", "Great video and he really seems like a decent dude! But I have to ask, what's up with people not wearing seatbelts, seen this in videos before a lot lately? I don't know if it's a cultural thing but here in Sweden we don't even drive like 10 meters without a seatbelt. Not trying to trash or anything just curious if this is like an acceptable thing or how they teach in driving school?", "In the narcissist's mind the victim is the asshole for having the audacity to track them down and call the cops on them.\n\n\"I can't believe that asshole caught me stealing and called the cops to get his stuff back. Doesn't he know I'll get in trouble now? What a jerk!\"", "\"I took two pain pills and had a beer\" so he's admitting to DUI now?", "Yeah he’s mentioned earlier this year that some of his videos leave him with hardly any money left but he knows they’ll pull in enough for the next one. Definitely an example of dumping everything you can into it to grow the channel/business", "I came from a rural part of a midwest state not far from small to medium cities. I moved to one of those cities and have never had an issue with my stuff being stolen. I hear about it once in a while on the one sketchy area in the city but not much near me. I go back to visit family and they all have cameras on every corner of their house now. I asked why and they said there have been tons of burglaries in the area. Even people stealing cars or motorcycles from driveways at like 8pm at night. Crazy how even with all those guns they all have didn’t seem to scare the theifs away. I don’t miss the rural life very much at all.", "What did he pay? What's the cost of a lifetime of experience with these people?\n\nFor me it cost all the patience I had left for these hypocrites.", "Because the abstract idea that someone somewhere might have a gun isn't a deterrent.", "I had no idea that 3m subscribers on youtube gets you so much 'fuck you' money..", "I did. I don't participate in pity parties. If you got troubles, take it up with your church and community. Stealing the fruit of someone else's work is deplorable.", "Think it's pronounced \"Misdemeanor\"", "Right? This guy makes a completely ridiculous generalization, claims he literally cannot be wrong, is proven wrong, and then pulls some dipshit excuse out of his ass.\n\nAll so he can shit on the US and make himself feel better about his sad existence.", "Well I wouldn't say that. The video doesn't have a single black person in it, that's pretty racist /s", "Hard to say exactly what played into it, the fact that he's a local 60 year old married home owner who dresses and talks the same way the cops do probably plays a part. If he were a 30 year old male from the cities he most likely gets arrested regardless of race.", "I wish he would have taken it and sent them a donation card in which he used their money to support something they don't like. Not to make snap judgements (which I am) but I'm guessing a donation to the DNC would make this guy's head explode.", "Lol we all know a \"Mr. Jackson\" would've gone straight to jail. Hell, police testimony is enough to throw almost any minority. Unless you're Jay z or a lawyer, your ass is going.", "\"$300k reward for anyone that helps find this $20k skid loader.\"\n\n​\n\nI like this guy.", "Oh didn't even show his twin Duramax monster truck.", "No because he's a trashy person that denied it until they had him dead to rights and then gave a half ass non-apology excuse. I'm *sureeeeee* Jim-Bob learned his lesson.", "We need to fill the prisons with white people 👏 that will solve the inequality.", "Not sure why “boomer” needs to be in the title. Seems pointless.", "Or more likely. They have an excess because they're crooked.", "People don't press charges, the DA does. With the evidence now freely available on YT, they could press all the charges they want. Its just a matter of ease to not pursue a case where the victim doesnt want to cooperate (in most jurisdictions)", "The thief got off scott free, didn't even have to pay for the cameras. He's sitting back cracking a beer right now and didn't learn shit. I'm with you, he's manipulative af and he just won another round.", "The whole hospital bills sob story seemed like a frivolous attempt to garner more sympathy in light of all of the other “reasons”. If it was just the hospital bills, I’d believe him. The pills and open gate reasons just made him look really dumb.", "He said to the cop that he would press charges down the long if boomer stole from someone else and it would help their charges.", "Fuck you and your statistically disproven lie.", "Agreed, and hopefully the police or local prosecutors get enough public push back that they bring charges against him, pretty sure there is nothing stopping them from doing so.", "It's good for the views", "Shut up", "That's fair, but I don't think I mentioned anything about justice. Of course justice would be him facing the penalties and consequences of his actions. I'm not talking about that.\n\nI'm just saying I understand why the kid made the decision he did. He went with his gut that the guy is genuinely ashamed and remorseful, he feels that shame is a powerful catalyst for change (I think it can be too), he's already rich and doesn't need the money, and he isn't even wasting his time since he's making a video out of the whole thing which is his whole career. The kid took that all into context when he decided what he did.\n\nPlus, that YouTuber is obviously well known in that community (they all know him) and he plastered that guy's face everywhere. So if that's how he wanted it to end it, then that felt like the right way to do it.\n\nWhat I don't understand is why everyone here is so angry. It seems like people are just want vindication from their own personal experiences of being wronged, and are maligned that this opportunity to do that to someone else didn't happen.", "Having a lot of stuff can just mean they have a lot of debt; not more money on top of their material 'assets'. Also, it takes time to develop habit and behaviour, good or bad; he's been doing this for awhile..", "He should’ve taken the $1400. He destroyed his physical property.", "I had a dealer tell me that in the exact situation. I was of the opinion that I had the money, may as well just pay it all off now. \n\nHe said “look, this is true 0% no strings attached. Not many will tell you this but keep it, put it in a savings account if nothing else, and you’ll make a couple hundred.”\n\nChanged the way I look at these things.", "Did you catch the parked RV?", "Some people don't trust banks. I knew people who would keep it all in their home...and then had a house fire and realized why banks are useful.", "Well the cops were there, so yeah. And he did express a lot of remorse?", "Not really. Managed to find some lumber and drywall that was stolen and it was just sitting in the guys yard rotting from the weather. They’re just drug addicts who will steal whatever isn’t locked up", "It's sad that people are just assuming they know what this guy is thinking, how he feels, if he's a narcissist or a total scumbag. I'm glad there's someone with some sense in the comments. \n\nTo all those who are fuming, you MIGHT be right. But you also might be wrong. And going nuclear off of an assumption isn't right.", "Watch the thief's reaction. He was practically blubbering when he handed the money back. I think the money was the thief's last attempt to save face and the victim basically threw it back in his face, and topped it off by thanking him and shaking his hand. How humiliating.", "Prob the same vote as the guy wearing a colonial flag hoodie", "It fascinates me how people will make excuses for thieves.", "Colonial flag hoodie. Gross", "So you don’t think that I come will go right into their joint account?", "Probably", "He seemed to be fine with it", "That thief skipped through this free and clear and the only thing he regrets is getting caught.", "I wonder if the police response and the judge signing the warrant so fast is because of this guy's youtube fame. Resolving this so quickly for someone with a big social following is just good publicity for that police force. \n\nInfluence is power; and society bows to that.", "Based on this video and on growing up in a rural area, I'd say crime is probably pretty underreported in these areas.", "This is no where near his first time stealing. This guy has been robbing people for years. And that sob story where he admits to a DUI. This man needs to be charged so he can lose his license and hopefully any firearms he has too. This guy may be a well off YouTuber with the equipment to track these losers down, but for a regular working class person that is devastating impact to their livelihood.\n\nAnd the why he did it is simple. These rural people are land ownership crazy loons who think they own everything in sight. Guaranteed he heard through the local gossip guy that some outsider bought that property and decided it was his stuff now.", "Being white is truly a blessing. No way a cop would let a black guy hold a bow like that around them without shooting them. They probably wouldn’t even respond to this nonsense if the caller was black.", "It reminds me of when someone makes a post complaining about their wife and everyone just responds with \"divorce her! she doesn't respect you! you're relationship-ing wrong! it shouldn't be like that!\". It's got that same energy.\n\nEveryone has all these unresolved, pent up emotions and just project it on everything else.", "It's sad that I read the title, looked at the thumbnail and assumed it was a cop stealing this guys stuff on a traffic stop or something.", "And also being accurate so, there's that. Sorry about your demographic having such crappy stereotypes.", "To shame them", "The ignorance and sense of entitlement is strong on both sides of this issue. Full props to anyone who watched past the extended rant about the poor quality of the jacks this joker bought several of. Had I obeyed my first instinct and noped out when he complained that his camera got \"ruined\" by some spray paint that can be cleaned off with rubbing alcohol on a Q-Tip I would still have that minute worth of storage in my brain for something less whiny and self-indulgent.", "drunk and on pain killers, then drove…", "So you also can’t read. Thanks", "Your vote doesn't even cancel them out if you don't live in the same state as them or within the same gerrymandered borders as them if we're talking about local elections.", "It’s a country thing, most people wear seatbelts and he probably does too when he’s not on backroads.", "I agree, that is a fallacy, an all or nothing statement, or at least pretty close to one.", "Anyone with an addiction is SCUM OF THE EARTH TRASH?", "Yeah cops come when you steal. I didn't see any remorse, dudes just mad he got caught. The look on his face when they tell him about the third camera is gold. \n\nAnd I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for these meddling YouTubers!", "> especially after he made them get a search warrant\n\nI agree that they should have arrested him, but exercising your rights should never be a factor in determining whether you’re punished by the justice system. They’re not rights if you can be retaliated for exercising them. His decision to refuse consent to search his property should play absolutely zero role in whether he gets prosecuted.", "He’s going to make so much more than $1400 off of this guy from the YouTube ad revenue from this video.", "This is used by these fuckwads *all the time*. \n\"Well if you didn't want it stolen you shouldn't have left it somewhere I could possibly access. You *deserved* to lose your stuff. If I didn't take it someone else would!\"\n\nViolence is wrong and all, but any time I hear that line of thinking it sure does make my ethics feel a little more flexible.", "> To all those who are fuming, you MIGHT be right. But you also may be wrong. And going nuclear off of an assumption isn't right.\n\nWhich is entirely my point. I'm making an assumption, and the YouTuber is obviously making an assumption too. But so many people in here are acting like they aren't and their assumptions are absolute fact. And so angrily too.", "I mean while I do think the guy is mostly genuine here he also knows it’s a money-making video for sure. Not hard to understand when his popularity boom came entirely from destroying expensive stuff. He basically gets paid to not care about possessions and that started before he even got a lot of money.", "Why would they need to further punish someone when the victim believes the wrong against him as been corrected? Why pursue something on behalf of someone that doesn’t want you to? Just because you got upset and want to see him in jail? Is this not the exact epitome of restorative justice and good police work? The victim got his stuff back and is happy with the ending, and nobody has to go to jail. This is probably the best case scenario we can hope for as a society that things like this can be solved without more people sitting in jail when the victim doesn’t want it.", "Why tf did he give them money!? Like they stole his stuff. So he gives them money because they loosely admitted they were thieves? Wtf?!", "Well handled by this guy- to turn around and give the money is another kick in the nuts for the thief, millions of people will see this, his neighbours will know all about this. A mature response by the victim. I really want him to get his dad's skid loader back, I hope to see that story as well. This is like a feel good story for the holiday season!", "\"There's not a good excuse. Took two pain pills, drank a beer, felt like a wild ass kid\"\n\nSeems like the first words out of his mouth were excuses to me! :P", "It’s almost like that was done intentionally to humorously emphasize certain words.", "Not necessarily. Either way, you shouldn't incriminate yourself to the cops whether you're guilty or not. And I'm not talking about him at the fence, I'm talking about when he's talking to the guy he stole from.", "“Took two pain pills and drank a beer”. Essentially admitted to a dui too on tape.", "They were paying him for the cameras, he said they could keep the money", "I appreciate not wanting to get into it with such a piece of shit, but I wish the poster had just said, “So why’d you make the cops get a search warrant then?”", "I think you're missing the point and getting caught up in the semantics.", "White guy to white guy. I guarantee you the boomer would be in cuffs right then and there if he was browner.", "He ain’t going to steal again at least not in his area. This YouTube is externally popular especially in parts of the country like this.\n\nEveryone this dude knows will have seen this video before the new year.", "That man is sick. Like, that was textbook addict behavior. I hope he gets help soon, I have a feeling this isn't his bottom.", "nothing a little paint thinner can't fix", "If you think the guy with a small house in the middle of nowhere and 2 10-year-old cars is “rich” you’re delusional.", "It's not racist to acknowledge the reality we live in. You might not know this but not all races are treated equally by the police.", "I learned a lot from your posts today.", "Nope! Nothing requires a victim to press charges to be prosecuted. All pressing charges means is the victim is encouraging the prosecutor to move forward on a case. And just so you know, the converse is true too: Even where a victim presses charges, a prosecutor is not *required* to do anything (at least not in any state I’ve ever practiced or lived). \n\nUltimately all pressing charges does is let a prosecutor know they have a cooperating victim who feels exceptionally slighted by the defendant’s actions and will make the case easier. Some states may have codified victims’ rights that impose more processes where a victim presses charges. \n\nI did have one victim in a domestic violence spousal abuse case write me the nastiest emails ever because I pursued charges against her husband despite her wanting them dropped. After the guy was convicted she immediately dropped the act and said she was scared of him while he was free and couldn’t show any signs of hope to get out of her situation. But now she was her own woman again. She sadly got back with him when he got out of prison though :(", "Australia has a 90+% turnout, and they still voted in a cockstain.", "If he had time to properly hide the stuff he never would have admitted it and would have continued to gaslight everyone. These type of people are sorry they got caught. That’s it.", "The dude is obviously a well-practiced thief. He removed his license plate, painted over the cameras, wore a mask, and returned to the scene to steal after the original theft. This wasn’t a spur-of-the-moment snatch and grab. This was a premeditated theft by someone with experience stealing.\n\nThis wasn’t his first theft, and it won’t be his last.", "\"ok but...\" Hilarious.\n\nYou got owned ya trumptard. Enjoy your covfefe. \n\nDon't forget \" women, person, man, camera, TV\"", "Letting him go and not taking the money is a huge mistake. They should of taken this man through the ringer. Every charge they can come up with, a trespassing order, a restraining order, driving without plates. Everything. These boomers get to escape responsibility far too often. I would of called the news, the local papers..... I mean come on I understand being a 'bigger person' and being happy you got your stuff back but in all honesty if it was not for your third camera wouldnt you be SOL and that stuff would of been sold by the end of the weekend.", "Yes.", "Yep. Some dealers will do scummy crap like saying they have \"0%\" but what they're doing is buying down the rate from the bank, and hoping you don't notice that in order to get 0%, you have to pay a 3-5k addendum (or markup over MSRP). True manufacturer 0% is (with my manufacturer, Honda) usually zero strings attached. You might encounter a manufacturer that requires you to choose between 0% and a rebate, but that's pretty few and far between from what I've seen.", ">And telling some sob story about being a drunk on pills.\n>\n>No one fucking cares, dude.\n>\n>Stop stealing shit.\n\nAgreed. Everybody has shit. Nobody's perfect. Giving excuses for bad behavior is pathetic.", "What an incredibly ridiculous thing to say with literally zero proof. There are lots of crimes that people aren’t arrested for when they should have been because district attorneys won’t take it. It makes it a lot harder to prosecute a case with a victim that won’t help so many DAs refuse charges before an officer can make the arrest.", "The cash was not robbed, it was to reimburse the YouTuber for the ruined spray-painted cameras. But you're right that it is an admirable display of forgiveness.\n\nHowever, it does feel weird that he was so kind to his face, but recorded it all and put him on blast on the internet. Like, it doesn't seem like a straightforwardly good deed if it's all for the internet to think you're some kind of saint. Know what I mean?", "My kid made 19¢ last month in ad revenue. I have to get him to start pumping out that content!!", "I'm not a victim of anything, dopey. I never claimed to be a victim. Project much?", "Dude needs jail, like every insane boomer", "Any idea what's the unconventional means he used to find the guy?", "I’d say “you hear that, deputy? Sounded a lot like a confession to operating a motor vehicle while under the influence.” \n\nFuck that dude, pile it on.", "Lol he only said that after they got the warrant. He had a perfectly good opportunity to come clean initially.\n\nY'all really defending this trash eh?", "He looks around 60 and boomers run up to ‘64.\n\nEdit: born in ‘64 at the latest, that is.", "Don't forget \" women, person, man, camera, TV\"", "He’s a big YouTuber that garnishes a bunch of hate from certain people. He basically destroys nice trucks from brand new pickups to rebuilt collectible stuff so there is always a boomer debate about daddy’s money and being entitled… so it’s not hard to imagine the neighbor knows who he is and thinks no big deal to steal from the “spoiled rich kid” or something.", "Probably how he got so much money to have that. Lots of wealthy people get wealthy but stepping and stealing from others. Lying, cheating, stealing, etc. An honest working person is at great disadvantages to obtain large wealth", "Then why did this idiot admit to a DUI in his non-apology. At this point I don't think it's incriminating yourself when you're already caught and they have ample evidence you did it.", "Criminals elect criminals", "I think that's why I couldn't practice law. I don't believe the state should have the right to pursue charges on its own behalf if there is no direct victim or a victim who doesn't want to press charges.", "That last line wasn't needed my man.", "Even if he hadn't shown his face everyone in the small town would still know who it was imo. Someone would out him on a local FB group in no time at all.\n\nEDIT: next time someone has their shit stolen I wouldn't be surprised if they showed up at his house too even if it wasn't him... a lot of people who've had their shit stolen will also assume it's him who did it", "So satisfying", "If I took two pain pills and drank a beer I’d probably just watch Robocop or something.", "Kid let him off too easy. He wasn’t concerned about your well being when he took your stuff. All you’re doing is teaching him that there’s no punishment for his actions and he will likely do it to someone else.", "Ah well, good luck with life. You may find it somewhat confusing.", "On that note... WHY ARE THOSE CAMS SO GODDAMN EXPENSIVE??\n\nPhew, sorry I had to get that out.", "Faces are blurred because we all make mistakes.. lol.. This isn’t a “mistake” and they have a big property. In the past, they would chop off his hand!", "Sorry bud, Zoomers hate you losers even more than we do. They get to live their whole lives in the consequences of your decisions and we only have to do half.", "Idk how Cody could just sit there and hear him out. I would’ve just cut him off, “I don’t want to hear it. You stole my stuff and if you do it again or if a single thing is missing here I’ll make sure you’ll do time for it.”", "This looked childish, and immature, AND ignorant, simply childish and immature because you couldn't handle someone's \"opinion.\" While ignorant, simply because you were incorrect in your false assumption.", "He should have pressed charges.", "A well practiced thief that stole in broad daylight and didn't immediately get rid of the stolen stuff or have somewhere else to keep it? If you say so. It doesn't even sound like he removed the plate for that reason, as the plate was still gone.", "I mean how much money does the youtube make? omg?", "I mean MAYBE I'd have been forgiving if he hadn't tried to get away with it. If the guy didn't have the cameras, the guy would never have apologized.", "“I have zero tolerance for people taking my stuff.”\n\nAnd the he pays them money. I know it’s a classic YouTuber move because it’s a flex to their audience of “how good and generous” they are but he just paid this dude for stealing his stuff.", "20 minutes...", "Yeah, this all feels strangely off to me. Yes, it was kind of him to refuse the repayment for the cameras, but he was recording himself doing it for his YouTube channel, so is it really virtue? The internet is making us weird.", "I'm just pointing out the fact that when it comes to poorer addicts, people are all support, but when you are wealthy, there's no excuse to have an addiction, apparently. Complete lack of understanding of addiction.", "Where do you take your definitions from?", "Because he’s a hateful karma whore", "No. People do not press charges. DAs press charges. People can opine if they would like to see charges brought, and their unwillingness to cooperate with investigators can play a role in whether or not a DA thinks it is worth pursuing a case or not. This is why it is the STATE vs Lawbreaker, not Victim vs Lawbreaker in criminal court.\n\nThe DA in this jurisdiction could take this video evidence and file charges even if YouTube Guy didn't want to see him in any more trouble. It would be a slam dunk case - subpoena the video and confession and it would be a done deal.", "Perhaps if you keep digging you'll strike an ore vein and become rich with the proceeds.", "The thing is imagine if he got away with this one, this YouTuber had the means to finding his shit back. Others won't, others can't.\n\nThis thief on the other hand is **only sorry** because he got caught. You think this would have been a one and done? He just casually wanted to spray over the cameras, remove his license plate, hid shit, lie to cops?\n\nHe could have stop stalling from the get-go and gave back the shit, he didn't. Would this thief stop stealing from others had he got away with this? Would this have been a one-time deal? I don't think so, send his ass to jail.", "vary sad", "upstanding members of the community and even the local judges! \nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qnhmaf/judge_and_others_accused_of_stealing_from_dead/", "If he was remorseful, why was he trying to hide evidence and acting like it wasn't him? He shakes his head and the cops are forced to warrantize him. \n\nHe's not embarrassed at what he did. He couldn't think up an excuse to avoid a bigger jail sentence.", "Yup, you got it. I was suspicious as heck but this was direct from Mazda at the time and I verified all strings. None were attached. It was a good lesson though because you’ll see a similar thing in other places too. Big home improvement purchases, for example. You can often take advantage of 0% interest if paid within x months deals. It adds up.", "-Buys expensive truck most people wouldn’t want a scratch on\n\n-makes series of videos destroying it in various entertaining ways\n\n-makes enough money to buy the next truck and maybe just enough to make it even crazier \n\n-repeat until doing well enough to buy other nice things", "Yeah there's some reason the thief and his friend were talking about the cameras on this guy's driveway, but not in the context of stealing his property. I wonder if neighbors resent him for whatever reason for doing YouTube stuff. He's clearly well known enough that the thief knew who he was stealing from. And there's definitely some ulterior motive that didn't get said in this video.", "Replying to you since he deleted the comment...\n\nYes, you do, but for some reason, black people get charged way more for the same crimes as white people do. Black people get longer sentences for committing the exact same crimes a white people do. Auhmad Arberey enters and construction site and leaves with nothing and gets lynched. This guy steals a bunch of shit, gets caught and never sees a gun pointed at him, never sees handcuffs AND gets to keep the money he was responsible for when he destroyed property. \n\nI know that's how the law works. It's a feature not a bug. That feature is called white privilege.", "Yes, all three of those are social interactions? You seem to be disagreeing though?", "I would've made that cracker agree to walk around the busiest part of town for a week wearing a big \"MY NAME IS \\_\\_\\_\\_ AND I AM A THIEF\" sign.", "The overuse of cultural slurs is getting tiresome.\n\nIt's not like we don't have enough issues in this country with racism and division that we have to essentially get tribal over people of different age groups and invent slurs to disparage them. Sad.", "Theft is depriving someone of the use of their property. Not just permanently taking it. There are many reason's why you want to discourage it. The purpose of punishment is both reformative and punitive. If it were acceptable to steal things, as long as you eventually gave them back, there would be a lot more thefts. \n\nPrison time would likely not serve him or society well, you're right. However, there are alternatives, such as giving a suspended sentence and probation. Providing a structural inventive to not commit the same crime again likely would benefit the thief and society, especially if the probation program is accessible and empowering (which most admittedly are not).", "\"allright... i won't press charges... if you let me slap you.\"", "Developers are shitheads, too.\n\nProbably just trying to get you idiots to leave. This is coming from someone that absolutely hates Texans.", "Because he just got caught stealing by the cops. He's obviously not relaxed or thinking clearly. He wasn't gonna admit to anything until they had him, as you said, dead to rights.", "I don’t think “grateful” is the right word here. He was being polite and trying to avoid drama (which is still being the bigger person)", ">audacity to lie to the police\n\nCareful, Reddit thinks this is a virtue.", "Gotta say I was ready for some revenge and justice, but he was so nice about all of it. Guy is probably ashamed of himself. Leanred a lesson, and thanks for not being a dick about it. You got one more person to subscribe. \n\nPeople make mistakes. Makes me wonder if that guy was an asshole that got caught or just a dumb pill popping drunk. \n\nJustice for all here. Glad you got your bows back.", "You look like an idiot here, because even at the end of the entire debate, you can't admit that you said anything incorrect. You are only focused on me and what I did wrong. It's like that verse in the bible (I don't believe in the bible but I am well versed,) And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye??", "I get what you're driving at. However, I think you're ignoring the even larger picture. This guy premeditated this theft, it wasn't \"driving around feeling like a wild-ass kid\". Then he tries to talk his way clear (at the gate), then he tries getting angry (flailing his arms in the driveway), then he admits it. But then, he offers the YouTuber about 4-5 *distinct* explanations as to what/how/why it happened.\n\nThis is a guy who has a load of practice in at least attempting to talk his way clear of getting caught. And I'm pretty sure the reason he has such eloquent and genuine sounding phrases is because they've worked before and they're filed away mentally.\n\nAnd while he doesn't get to keep the stuff, he literally just schmoozed his way out of felony grand theft charges (as far as we know).", "Do you know how hard it is to get 3m subs?", "The was the worst part for me was when he tried to talk up the YTer by commenting on the draw weight of the compound bow that he stole after the YTer had told him it had significant sentimental value to him. It’s like he heard nothing the YTer said. *Oh, it’s sentimental to you? Well I was definitely fucking around with it trying to shoot it and what not. By the way, you’re strong.*", "I would have charged this asshole with everything. You come onto my property and steal my stuff. Guess what homie, you get to back the blue in the back of a squad car.", "Fuck that dude. What the fuck.\n\nThe amount of people who fuck around on larger private own lands are scum. If it's not stealing, they trespassing to hunt.", "100% that apology came because of his wife. You don't spray paint cameras without being a petty asshole.", "I agree but god damn is the money good 😊", "That guy is a piece of crap but being a boomer has nothing to do with it.", "Well this guy specifically got big by destroying expensive or interesting trucks and has gotten a lot of hate and also positive attention from assholes who think its funny to be assholes. In fact, I'm pretty sure the reason the youtuber in this video moved out of his property so quickly is people found it and started harassing him immediately. \n\nI don't think the thief hated him or anything, I think he saw an opportunity to steal expensive shit and jumped on it and then made up his sob story to explain why he did it. Just trying to briefly explain why people are against this particular youtuber.", "Why specify what generation we feel the person is from? Feels like ageism.", "i know people like him. certainly a dozen. you can bet solid money they have been doing this for decades. decades of breaking into hunting camps, vacation houses n shit, stealing everything they can. even in small communities they do it and somehow live it down when they get caught and everybody knows it. they are just staunch 2bit bandits.", "Agreed. You don’t take that much shit on your first go. And you don’t have the thought to use spray paint on the cameras and pull plates either.\n\nThat’s a man who’s done this before and had his tactics work before.", "But he IS making excuses. Not making excuses would be to simple say “I stole your stuff because I thought that I could get away with it.” instead he beings up getting drunk, being on pills, you left your stuff unprotected, etc, which is all shifting blame away from his crime. If this was a youtube apology video it’d be mediocre at absolute best. Saying “it’s no excuse” is the same as saying “it was just a prank bro” or “no offense but” its just words", "Fucking boomer", "does this kid really make that much money from youtube???", "Out of interest, do you think epidemics in general are impossible then? If you think it's a logical fallacy to say that one occurred then you must, surely?\n\nDo you just mean you think I was wrong?", "Something tells me the YouTube also doesn’t share your political views so that’s probably not going to happen", "That dude has so much shit on his own and it’s not enough. It’s never enough. An entire generation built to consume, endlessly. No regard for anything but the desire to fill their world up with shit they don’t need. An entire generation of hoarding toddlers in adult suits. \n\nThere’s just a complete lack of regard for anyone else among these folks. It’s surreal.", "That's a good point. Probably really hard to nail down so far after the fact. But you have to admit it's a funny balance of, \"inebriated enough to cloud my morals, but sober enough to operate a vehicle.\" Not sure where that falls on the legal limit.", "Now disregarding: \"Good point.\"", "One could say his brain eluded thinking of risk assessment", "In all fairness I do look idealistic, but I wouldn't call that childish. I am immature, I have stunted emotional growth. I definitely did not seem ignorant. That was 100% your ignorance projected on to me. In my opinion? Your \"opinion\" ( ;)) is disgusting", "Notice he's not selling his shit, he's stealing other people's shit. The pills are not the problem. Dude likely didn't like seeing some young kids doing well with so much stuff next to him.", "I like the cut of your jib", "1. You said that twice dipshit \n2. I didn’t get ‘owned’ I got tired of trying to have a civil discussion and figured no one would agree\n3. Never said I was a trump supporter I was just pointing something out\n4.the “man person” thing was actually apart of a cognitive test, your welcome to look into it and educate yourself \n5. I’ll agree to disagree but have a merry Christmas or happy holidays whatever floats your boat", "Almost like understanding an action and condoning an action are completely different things.", "stealing property, this is rights to shoot someone right? /s", "The root of it isn't about meth or drugs though. Maybe it goes by region, but there's a strong \"there's nothing wrong with stealing whatever I want from whoever I want\" streak in hillbilly culture, and it was there long before the meth/opiate problems.", "And you wonder why they don't want to teach CRT in these areas....", "Because giving the money back is humiliating to the thief", "That’s because you’re probably not an addict of multiple years with a high tolerance. Why do you think he got into stealing peoples shit?", "No I'm not coming at you, I agreed with every word you said.", "> I know I’ve not used a small sample size\n\nHahahahahahaha!!!\n\nYour evidence is literally, in *your own words*, \"From what I have seen and from Americans have said about Germany and the US.\"\n\nYou sample size is just stuff you've seen on Reddit. It's absolutely *hilarious* that you're doubling and tripling down on this, as if the Reddit you've browsed somehow disproves the *actual data* others have provided to you.\n\nI know, I know, \"What I *really* meant was blah blah blah, you didn't read what I said!\"\n\nGrow up and learn to take an L when one is handed to you.", "Lol seriously", "Except for that last sentence", "The follow up confession on tape is pretty useful evidence on top of the stolen property that was found and verified on his property. All the State would really have to do here is subpoena YouTube dude's raw video.", "I've only seen some of his vids, when my friends put them in the group chat lol, but I think it's pretty obvious that he's a good guy. I think he puts on a personality and sense of humor (e.g. ribbing his friends) for the camera, but then in some videos you can catch a glimpse of him interacting with strangers and he seems to be extremely cool to them all. I think the wagon wheel hellcat video is an example of that, or maybe one of the carolina squat ones, where he's driving around town and strangers keep coming up to him.", "that's right. that's why i would not have been a \"standup guy\" to this shitbird. hope the cops find other shit belonging to other people and the youtuber end up pressing charges to help them out, because i am pretty damn sure he have been at it for many years.\n many years of being a low key cancer on his community.", "And remember: these people want to shoot looters.\n\nI'm sure these inbreds will come up with all sorts of reasons white boomer shouldn't be shot on the spot, but a black guy who loots a macys is a justified kill.", "I see a 60 yo man with generational wealth. I see outbuildings I see a well cared for house and landscape, I see fencing, and I bet the reason those cars are 10 years old and not young year old is because they’re paid off.\n\nAnd when you say the “in the middle of nowhere”, I think what you mean is in a place with a very low cost of living.", "When I was on pain pills after surgery I just watched stupid action movies all day. Maybe I should've tried stealing.", "> Doesn’t that depend on the crime?\n\nNo. Though local prosecutor might have a policy that certain crimes, such as felonies, require approval from an assistant district attorney.\n\n> in the charging the goods\n\nNot sure what you mean. You mean if the defendant was charged then the items would be evidence and so be retained by police? Possibly. More likely if they were going to fingerprint or DNA or something, which they wouldn't do for this minor type of case. Also the stolen items don't have to be taken into evidence because they don't need the object itself to prove the theft - victim could testify to seeing it taken/videos etc.", "I know they were trying to be nice but this dude is a seasoned thief and needed charges pressed.", "He won’t have a criminal record, but there’s still a paper trail. If there are other unsolved theft cases in the area, you know the first place the detectives are looking now. And the next person he steals from probably won’t be as forgiving as WD.", "It's not the 3 million subs, it's that his videos get 2.5 to 5.5 million views. Plenty of people watch his vids that aren't subs.", "Very obviously epidemics are not impossible. The truth of the matter is tho, not every single \"boomer\" is narcissistic, and the boomer narcissistic epidemic isn't a boomer thing. It's a United States thing.", "If anyone wants to know what white privilege looks like it’s this right here.", "Yep you’re delusional all right.", "Hrm. \n\nInteresting idea. I tend to think that putting people in prisons in general does very little to solve any kind of equity issues.", "I'm pretty hesitant to believe that, though it is certainly possible. In reality, it seemed like he was thinking of anything to seem like he wasnt himself at the time of stealing. He repeated several times \"I know there is no good excuse\" then rattled off whatever excuse they thought of while waiting for that search warrant. He also notably kept rambling desperatly trying to justify it to himself out loud.\n\nI do think a lesson was learned here. Embarrassment is a very strong emotion and that clown certainly seemed to be awfully embarrassed. It is just ridiculous it took getting caught red-handed to finally admit it.", "Pressing charges means paperwork", "gonna 5tuple down aswell, cause you again assume what i'm doing in my life. It's just so amusing to me. No L's in sight over here :)", "Is there a need to insult the heritage and age of the perpetrator?", "I would say they feel embarrassment. Getting caught when you think you are clever or know you broke the law will probably make a sociopath mad more than anything.", "I did turn it off.", "Do you honestly believe the cops there actively thought, “oh he’s white just like me so I’ll let him go”? No the victim didn’t want to do anything further. He got his stuff back, was happy with the ending and didn’t want him to get arrested. The cops respected the victim’s wishes and settled it there. At no point did they probably ever even think of anyone’s skin color. Imagine seeing a video of a masterclass in restorative justice that all parties can walk away from happy with nobody going to an overfilled jail and quick efficient response from police and still claim somehow the police are racist for doing their job exactly how everyone wants them to.", "Wow that got real hard to watch near the end.", "sometimes it's better to show that you won't stoop down to their level", "I think the YouTube dude said his stuff had been going missing over a span of time, not all at once. \n \nI wonder if the thief resented this kid and was just trying to get him to leave the neighborhood. It's weird he mentioned that a friend told him about the cameras (but also was super vague about *why* a friend was talking about the cameras) - if that's true and he didn't just make that up on the spot, people in this town are talking about this guy behind his back.", "Their punishment does me no good. Giving people a chance to change does more good in most cases. And if they do it again and get caught then press charges.", "I doubt it was really the case. He was just making it up to appear he wasn't in his clear mind when he stole it. It wasn't.", "I mean he could just be an entitled asshole.", "I think it’s going to go over your head no matter what", "see the monster max videos and when he puts it in the water jn Florida, among his best content", "If I was going to give the money back, I’d tell the wife that it’s for her only to have a night out with the girls and she isn’t allowed to spend a single cent of it on her husband. Reward her, looks nice for giving the money back, make the husband feel like an even bigger piece of trash because you’re treating his wife well. Get inside his head.\n\nIt’s a triple win scenario.", "Care to elaborate?", "I can see it being common if it's a small town with a drug problem. But judging this dude's property, he and the neighbors probably steal shit to either use it themselves or make a quick buck.", "Might be an unpopular opinion...but people who steal (well off or not) are the same kinda of people who want to take more of peoples tax money and pay for things they don't have. You're just removing the step of taking it yourself.", "Aww, the drugs made him do it.", "Maybe this scenario could change your mind:\n\nThere’s a serial killer in the area. He has claimed 40 victims. He’s very good at what he does and leaves absolutely no evidence. \n\nOne victim, however, recently escaped. Everyone knows the person who tried to murder her was the serial killer. But without proof, they can only get him on the one attempted murder charge. The victim is too traumatized by the event and moves away to another country. What now? We have someone who tried murdering another, likely murdered 40 others, but the only provable crime was committed against a victim that didn’t press charges on her own and is now abroad. \n\nShould the government just hope the serial killer doesn’t kill again? What happens when a 41st victim is claimed? Does society have to basically beg the provable victim to press charges so that they can stop being terrorized by this guy?\n\n———\n\nScenarios like this one seem farfetched, but it’s essentially what may have happened in this video. Although not murder, the thief could have also stolen from his 40 neighbors. He only got caught by this one—who doesn’t care because he doesn’t live in the community and just wants the situation to be over with. What now? \n\nI think it’s good for society that crimes can be pursued independent of the victim’s desires. “Don’t snitch” culture is rampant in the areas that are most affected by violent crime. Victim intimidation would become commonplace if they were the lone gatekeeper of a defendant’s freedom.", "And look how manipulated people get by believing face value words from people whose actions prove otherwise.\n\nDon't ignore what a person does just because they say the opposite.", "He should I have pressed full charges. That wasn’t some off the cuff drunken theft. He went home, got a different car wore a mask and spray painted the cameras. Like they said he tried to use the bow, had scene them on Facebook. He knew who he was robbing.", "Kinda garbage if you steal a firearm it is a felony, but stealing 3 compound bows and all that other stuff he just gets a little shaming. I have seen videos of people video recording in public and getting arrested. There was also that kid that rolled coal on those bicyclists, clipped them, sending some to the hospital and he also was let go.", "He can be both.", "You should call him out for being an arsehole.", "Jeaneus", "> Dude could have just said \"I got a thrill out of stealing it. I wanted the shit\"\n\nThat would a straight to jail ticket irl without the option to just return the stuff and call it a day. \nThe cops would not just go easy on him if he said something like that and offer not to press charges if he return all the stuff.", "I think everyone ITT understands why this millionaire YouTuber gave the money back. But do you really not understand why people would be angry about the outcome of the video? I’ve had sentimental things with basically no value stolen from me. I *wish* I had the time and resources to do what this YouTuber did in this video. But to take it all the way to the point where this thief would literally have to pay for the consequences of his actions only to give the money back is just frustrating to say the least.", "Yea, that's why he has the bug house and garage and property. He steals and has gotten wealthy off of it. I guarantee this asshole is going to do it again.", "He still has the audacity to make some cock n bull story about him being 60 and taking booze and pills like yeah whatever.", "Yeah I agree this is all just him projecting his internal dialogue trying to rationalize why he's doing things he knows are wrong, and the cognitive dissonance implied. \n\nI dont know if he'll learn a lesson or not ,but I've got zero empathy for thieves, so it's tough for me to be compassionate for this guy who has more wealth than most redditors stealing from people. If he had stolen from someone who coudlnt afford all the monitoring equipment he would've gotten away with it. It's a real tragedy.", "When this was posted yesterday someone posted that he was broke and about to lose all that and his wife had medical issues. \n\nHe’s still a piece of shit, but there’s that.", "Not if he gets charged with a felony", "Hahaha good one", "Stealing is wrong. But this dude makes a living out of destroying valuable things. He buys a 60k customized pick up or Hellcat just to trash it for the sake of Youtube views- hard to feel sorry he lost a leaf blower.", "Yeah seems like this guy learned he can steal from his neighbors with impunity and even if he gets caught the only cost will be a little embarrassment. Big win for the boomer thief really, by now he’s probably rationalized the entire chain of events as other people’s fault. Lots of protecting and serving in this video. Of course, why should the police be expected to arrest thieves?", "What...are you his dad? If you are, you don't seem like a very nice person.", "Knew and worked with a guy who loved to brag about an expensive Kimber he had bought after saving for years. House was broken into, and not only did he lose the Kimber, but his brand-new, hard to get at the time PS3 and his Tag Heuer watch. Meanwhile my buddy who has at least $20K in guns in his safe never says a word about them except to really close friends.", "Sure. And that's your internal policy, I presume. You don't have a local rule or statute that prevents you from proceeding against victim's wishes.", "Ah ok thanks for the info.", "Damn you're right, people can't grow or learn, or have trouble dealing with bad parts of themselves. Thanks for the wisdom.", "A little too privileged", "Fair enough, you get your stuff back and new content, the thief gets humiliated and put on the police radar. After that who cares? I’m sure the thief is a decent guy in most regards, just impulsive and opportunistic. Sometimes all it takes is a close call to change someone’s ways. If he continues to steal lock him up, if he doesn’t let him have another chance without destroying his life with a felony and prison time. \n\nI would have let him off the hook too, not everyone who can go to prison needs to go to prison", "I totally agree with you. What the man did was beyond disrespectful and absolutely criminal. But there is, and always has been, a severe lack of empathy in our world. Maybe this guy didn’t deserve empathy, I get that sentiment, but showing it to him regardless takes an incredible amount of maturity and sympathy. Maybe the ending wasn’t true “justice” but it something far more meaningful and far reaching. This guy will never steal again, I firmly believe that.", "Douchebaggery knows no age or generation. \nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/devious-licks-tiktok.html", "Hear this all the time, it’s really not much worse than NYC weather", "The cops are probably more upset that he didn't press charges.", "Look at how social media gives people the death sentence without evidence or even making decisions that are contrary to evidence and facts?\n\nThis guy is in far worse trouble being famous online than being safe in jail. He better spend money on cameras and start sending someone else into town for supplies. \n\nTime to move I guess?", "Does the class not understand the existing definition?", "Grew up in meth country. This is it exactly.", "I know he was technically the victim here, but I my douchemeter was pegged watching the guy. One of his friends would be right in the middle of a sentence and he would just start talking. That's the type of person he is.", "I'm not about to sit and watch a 22 minute long video. \n\nMe 22 minutes later: \"Worth it.\"", "But the guy said no excuses so that makes it A-OK 👌", "He literally says \"There's no excuse. No excuse.... *but-*\" like four different times lmao", "You just KNOW this motherfucker is a \"christian\" and \"patriot\", too.\n\nScum. Prob/def a Trumper shithead, too.", "> I live in germany in a city with 80.0000 people. Reasonably big. We leave our doors open most of the time, our garage is open. We would never worry anyone would steal our stuff, it's mindblowing how nobody in america seems to have an ounce of respect for their neighbors.\n\nYou, errr, you do realize that per capita, Germany's crime rates when it comes to theft [is virtually the same](https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Burglaries) as the US's, don't you? You have just as much chance of your stuff being stolen.\n\nBut I guess if your education about the world is limited to Reddit videos ...\n\nEDIT: Ahh, nevermind. Saw the rest of your posts in the thread. You're one of those \"I'm not wrong, everyone ELSE is wrong and you just don't understand me!\" people. Hilarious and sad.", "This was an epic watch", "this kid is a better man than i will ever be", "Giving the money back to the wife was an extra little dig on the scumbag husband. You could see it in his eyes haha damn that move was gold", "100% correct. Texas is not the \"friendly\" state that everyone out of state seems to think it is. The only reason people like to live here is because it is cheap to live in with the exception of metro areas. Other than that it is full of lying under the breath conservatism and controlling assholes. \n\nOh, and our drivers literally have a death wish.", "> This guy is a product of right wing media telling him to hate an entire generation\n\nAnd then you got all the left wing clowns in this thread hating an entire generation too. What the hell is going on in America", "Whistlindiesel, the biggest pussy in the world. Plays victim and niceguy.", "Because he knows he’s gonna make more than a hundred thousand on the video.", "He just spent 3 paragraphs talking about how his dad was willing to do a 2 hour roundtrip to steal a few cord's of wood. In what universe is that a nice person?", "He doesn’t say, “I’m sorry” he talks about how embarrassed he is and offers excuses that “aren’t excuses”", "I genuinely think you know what the fuck you're talking about. I just happen to disagree with you.", "\"Aim for the bushes\"", "> stole in broad daylight\n\nYes. Most burglaries occur during the day when the homeowner is less likely to be present.", "So… admitting to driving under the influence too.", "Its legit poor people getting years in jail stealing to litterally eat who get no compassion. This dude gets no charges and offered money. What a world.", "He bought all that with the stuff he stole though", "You mean without anyone getting shot? That's kind of racist tbh.", "Depends on where. Some rural areas will provide internet as long as you are nearby the closest county road. In other places, you have to get a bit crafty (cellular data, satellite internet).\n\nThat’s part of reason why there is so much hype around Starlink. My dad’s rural home went from <10mbps to 150mbps immediately", "Don't forget \" women, person, man, camera, TV\"", "How does everyone know?", "“Again there’s no excuse” *proceeds to make up several more excuses*", "I see where you are coming from, but thought he had some endearing qualities that not everyone posses…especially being a rich bitch and all….", "From the looks of his place, he could have easily afforded all the stuff he stole, I'll never understand why people do that.", "This is the first video I've seen from him. Is his other stuff worth checking out?", "0% is basically always the worst deal, you're just paying the interest up front. rebate > 0%", "The moment they drive away they say that the guy was bullshitting so I don’t think he believed the sob story at all. Oh it’s more that he didn’t want to add more insult to injury. That guys reputation in that town is absolutely fucked if it’s anything like the country communities around here.", "What a cowardly individual to steal in such a fashion and attempt to explain it away.", "Watched this last night. The look in that guys face when WD hands the money back to the wife was priceless. WD is a good man.", "I'm gonna assume that if the wife *wasn't* in on it, she *had* to be more ashamed for her husband than distraught about losing money.", "By \"corruption\" in a \"third world country,\" you think people are forgiving and doing nice things to others to earn favor with LE? That sounds terrible! /s", "What about this is redneck to you", "Yeah this youtuber def. Didn’t need any money, at the end of the video he was offering a $300k reward for someone to find his dad’s stolen $20k skid-loader.", "They'll give him shit, be super friendly and not really care.\n\nUntil something goes missing....", "The American Psychological Association.\n\nthough my description is pretty reductive, the delineating principles are still the same:\n\nWith [guilt](https://dictionary.apa.org/guilt) the unpleasant feelings are directed towards the thought or action a person has committed. People are ready to undo or mitigate the wrong.\n\nWith [shame](https://dictionary.apa.org/shame), people appraise their “conduct or circumstances” as being bad. People will work to hide those things from others or remove attention from shameful behavior in some, usually maladaptive, way.", "> And telling some sob story about being a drunk on pills.\n\nThis is every time someone gets caught doing shit they didnt want the world to see. There is a judge in Louisiana that used racist terms, on camera. Guess what weak-ass excuse this piece of shit used? meds, of course. \n\nThese are all good Christians, only less Saintly than Jesus himself, that fell under the sway of evil meds. Meds that have been used for decades, without spontaneously causing bigotry. smh.", "It sounds like you do understand why everyone is mad. You explained it perfectly in your last sentence. The thief is human waste and received nothing more than embarrassment for his shitty actions which most people feel will change nothing of his future behavior.", "Die boomer die", "His whole story was pathetic. \"I just saw them there and didn't think you needed them\"\n\n\"Yeah but dude, you took off your license plate and sprayed my cameras.\"", "That reward is meaningless. Thing was stolen over a decade ago.\n\nIt's like \"I'll give you $1m if you can find me that button I lost at the beach when I was nine.\"", "Watch the whole video. Two officers specifically said they appreciated what the kid did.", "I'm not sure I agree. Maybe we should lock fewer people up and give them chances to change their behavior. This seemed like a good outcome -- the guy seemed horrified he got caught and that he could face actual consequences, and the kid got his stuff back. (Tho' he should have taken the $$$.) \n\nIf it were me, I'd ask for like 2x the money (justifying as what he'd pay in court costs and fines), and I wouldn't be forgiving with the guy. \"What you did was inexcusable, so don't make excuses. I've given you an opportunity by not pressing charges; take it. Don't steal again and get right with your God.\" Or something.", "I'm not saying don't believe anybody, I'm saying don't JUST believe them because it makes you feel as if they have learned. If you add it to your knowledge base then retain it for later and they do better that's great if they do the same actions again then you use that knowledge. It's not that hard.", "Broad daylight is also when cameras are most likely to catch you, which this dude clearly had.", "We gotta find this man’s skid loader.", "He stays wealthy by not paying for things.", "The fuck does ACA have to do with anything lmao", "He probably has all that because he steals.", "He didn't say not to call your dad not a nice person. He said all the stuff before makes that sentence redundant. He is agreeing with you.", "God! That beard...such a classic specimen of the Redneck Boomer.", "It's mildly derogatory I guess, but if the demographic is happy with the label, is it really derogatory?\n\n[Rednecks telling Redneck jokes to a room full of Rednecks](https://youtu.be/PX4XrcKyBN4)", "Dude Pat McAfee doesn't even have 3m and he's one of the biggest sports talk shows on YouTube with regular appearances from NFL superstars.\n\n3m is a *fuckload* of subs on YouTube.", "Exactly. He was adamant with the cops, even angry. He didn't fess up and say \"you got me, I did wrong.\" All the supposed soul-searching comes after they've searched and found the shit, and it's addressed to the guy he stole from, the one he needs to say \"nah, don't press charges.\" He learned nothing, and he'll do this again to someone else—he'll just be more careful next time.", "He will be ostracized for being a thief because, as someone who lives in a small town, all the honest folk won’t want to have anything to do with him. In addition to that anytime something goes missing he will always be the first to get blamed.", "Did I miss something? Why is he not in jail?", "Ok racist", "Cody seems like such a genuine dude. It doesn’t seem like his success has gone to his head.", "Millions of dollars.", "Please don't, you'll just make more of them.", "Tldw; guy gets caught stealing from YouTuber. People watch because YouTuber.\n\n\nNow you don't have to, you're welcome.", "Yeah I don’t want to make it a race thing but based on your experience as an attorney do you think the cops aren’t charging a poor black guy? No way. Absolutely got out of criminal charges bc of status (and Cody being a stand up guy)", "Ah, I see what you meant now. The way I first read it was you admonishing OP for calling his dad not a nice person. But I see you were just saying that it was obvious.", "Millions", "Narcissists are especially vulnerable to shame. Shame is all about public opinion. Narcissists rely on their inflated public images to get away with the terrible image they project onto the individuals they take advantage of. The dissonance allows them to thrive - to not be seen for what they are. \n\n\nA normal person, capable of feeling guilt, is capable of sacrificing their shame to save themselves that guilt. They are capable of doing the right thing, even if it doesn't make them look good. Narcissists are not", "He went down the street and saw the cars.", ">\tAt one point, he even says \"I made myself think what I was doing wasn't wrong\" which is quite a profound thing to say.\n\nIt’s a profoundly blatant lie. He didn’t think he was doing anything wrong, but he wore a mask, removed his license plates and spray painted cameras.\n\nDoes that sound like the actions of someone who convinced himself he wasn’t doing anything wrong?", "He said he watches his YouTube videos. He probably thought WD was an asshole and didn’t deserve to be doing well. Boy did he get proved wrong!", "he was targeted. the criminals admitted they knew him from youtube.", "I wouldn't think of that deed as virtuous even if it hadn't been recorded and I had just somehow heard of it. There's no virtue in giving money to those who don't deserve or have a burning need for it. It's more of an odd display of dominance.", "papí chill", "he projects his shitty self onto people different than him, aka:\n\nA 3K projector.", "The detective commented in the original video. Stating the old man was going to sell the stuff to prevent his home being foreclosed or something along those lines", "Is this one of those states where somebody comes on your property you’re allowed to shoot them?", "Cool. When are you going to stop accepting stolen goods?\n\nAccepting goods that you know are stolen is no different from endorsing the theft.\n\nStop using public roads, public lands, public parks and, public services.\n\nDon't call the fire department, the police, the consumer protection bureau, or the FDIC.\n\nDon't send your kids to public schools or accept private school vouchers.\n\nBurn your social security checks. \n\nOnly pay for things with Bitcoin.", "You used to be able to read Amazon negative reviews and get a clear picture of the product. But now competitors are leaving negative reviews so even those are bunk.", "Why would I downvote you when you're right?\n\nDownvoters, how do you think this would go if the cops rolled up to a double wide trailer with a black family in it, instead of that nice big house with a good ol' boy who probably went to high school with the sheriff?", "Not all manufacturers require you to give up a rebate to get 0%. Like most things in car business, it depends on the situation, but as long as you aren't losing anything to get the 0% rate, it makes zero sense for most people not to leave their money earning more money and take a free loan.\n\nHell, I've had people insist in paying cash even when we have a 0% rate available *and* a rebate. American Honda Financial Services has a $500 rebate for active or retired military, but you have to finance through AHFC. I've actually had people refuse to finance even knowing we have 0% through AHFC and that they won't get the $500 rebate.", "Yeah I think at a certain point you have to prevent it from happening to others. I can’t see this being his first or last time.", "I don't have to imagine. When I was in college, a very similar incident happened to my friend, except it was a bunch of black teenagers instead of an old white guy. The teenagers were never charged with anything, despite my friend catching them in the act of stealing thousands of dollars worth of property from his house, and following them back to their house nearby. Stop trying to force a narrative.", "I love his videos. Check out his durability tests for the Toyota Hilux", "i was not once saying \"the rates are different\" i was just saying the people are different. If my stuff gets stolen, it's much less likely to be one of my close neighbors in germany than it is in the US. Again, rate the same, type of people different.\n\nbut apparently it's very hard to read for most americans.", "Beyond reasonable doubt is a high standard to meet. You may know who is stealing your shit without the proof needed to convict the person. For the killer example, let’s say the killer had an extremely specific victim type that the escaped woman matched. Only women who are over 6’5 and also have purple hair, if that makes you feel certain enough.", "Could *you* stand there holding someone else's bow that you know is expensive and you know you stole, trying to shoot it and feel good about yourself? Could you look at a tailgate in your garage that you don't need, walk by it every day and think \"yeah, I stole that.\" Only shitbag people can do that, at least IMO.", "His poor wife. We have those same trail cameras around our property. \nAll the surrounding counties send their prisoner overflow to a jail where I live. We live on a back rd about 5 miles away. They will release the prisoners at all hours and they would walk down our road to get back to where they are from so they don’t have to walk on the highway. We have had 3 of our kids bikes stolen by them walking by and coming up on our property. Grown ass men stealing pink and purple bikes with baskets and pompoms on the handle bars. We got all of them back but one. It’s pretty sad when you have to chain your kids bikes up out in the country so they don’t get stolen.", "And NOW you're speaking with some sense. Congrats on moving off the nuclear option.", "Yes I’m having a hard time imagining myself covering my face, removing my license plates and spray painting cameras before taking stuff I thought I had every right to take. \n\nCan’t believe how many people fall for this thief’s blatant lies and excuses.", "That's also how kids write their english essays.", "He’s made enough money off his channel to buy around 100 acres in Tennessee at 23 yrs old, along with who knows how many top of the line toys. He’s loaded.", " Absolutely. One of the things I got from reading things written by very wealthy people who do absolutely know how to manage their money is the concept of Other People's Money. If someone is offering you the chance to use their money for free or at a lower rate than your money can earn elsewhere, take it.", "\"Redneck boomer\"", "Thanks for the source. 👍 I think you nailed guilt but I'm not quite so sure about shame. In fact, I think the apa definition of \"guilt\" is quite explicit about this and clarifies nicely \"It is distinct from shame, in which there is the additional strong fear of one’s deeds being publicly exposed to judgment or ridicule.\"", "I'm inclined to agree with you. What strikes me funny is all the white people in remote southern areas who are afraid of blacks stealing their shit.", "Whislin Diesel is a national treasure lol", "It's amazing how you can deduct all that from this one video.", "What a douche. Just another white thug that’s a product of drug culture. What can you do with these animals? \n\nGreat job by the guy watching out for his stuff. Stayed calm, was not malicious, just wanted his shit back.", "> < 10mbps\n\nYeah I'm going through the same thing with a family member right now, except they have no internet or phone at all beyond cell. They sometimes get 1-2 mbps on the cell, usually its closer to 0. They're convinced the county is going to run a fiber line 2 miles from the nearest county road (that doesn't even have fiber anyway) to them to pickup 5 customers. They're crazy. The nearest fiber line is 20 miles away.\n\nAnd unfortunately star link will never be widely available, they've got something like a million pre-orders and can only make 50,000 base stations per year right now. Even if they pump out more base stations, the demand will grow at the same or a faster rate. I'm guessing if you're not in the queue already then you'll probably wait a decade or more - until they get stopped because they're polluting low earth orbit pretty bad.", "I should have phrased it that *sometimes* the cops won't arrest if the victim asks them not to. It depends on the crime and the cops.", "Typical trump voters always stealing and looting and lying and never being good hard workers with morals.", "Ashamed? More like furious. It's not even about the stuff her stole, it's about damaging property for literally no reason. Everyone knows how cameras work, there's no reason to spray over them.\n\n$1,400 is a vacation, it's several massive Christmas gifts, it's a dozen really nice date nights, it's getting rid of that old tub in the bathroom and replacing it with the new massaging one. My wife would hold that over my head until I die.", "“I’m not trying to tell you any excuses” continues to say nothing but excuses.", "We have no indication that he will do it again, especially now that all the detectives in the area and everyone in their town probably knows his name and face and what he did. For this situation, in a town that small, this was probably the best course of action. We also have to keep in mind what the victim wants. Why would we ask the victim to come back and testify months later when they are already happy with the result? And if they don’t want to testify then the DA probably won’t take it anyway.", "So nice seeing white people let off other white people for criminal actions.\n\nSo heartwarming. /s", "Latino or latina. Latinos don’t use Latinx. That’s some woke shit trying to be pushed onto the culture by mostly people that aren’t even Latinos.", "This crime deserves a few days jail time imo.", "> their assumptions are absolute fact.\n\nDude is a fucking straight-up thief, and thieves are dirtbags. Not a huge assumption. He's a dirtbag. He wasn't stealing food for his family because he's on hard times. What he did is likely a felony crime. If you want to excuse it, good for you, but the assumption that he's a dirtbag is based on real, fact-based evidence, unless you're asking us to believe this whole thing is staged for youtube.", "I was all pissed off then he tells the wife to keep the cash. Victim became a hero.", "“No excuses…but”", "You know this boomer is always whining about how “influencer” isn’t a real job. This guy is an idiot thinking he could pull one over on a millionaire.", "If only this mercy was extended to people who actually deserve it. Tbh tho he humiliated that thief in front of his family and the cops. And then to refuse the money was an extra blow of humiliation. That boomer got wrecked in the soul.", "That's a little too far fetched I'd say, which is why I think a matching victim profile wouldn't be enough.\n\nMaybe if the consequences were different I'd feel different? Prison is a bad place.", "There's no excuse for this.... proceeds to say a bunch of excuses. I thought the house was abandoned so I convinced myself I was doing nothing wrong.\n\nOkay so when the cops came and asked for the stuff you lied and then gave up and admitted you were wrong with 'no excuse' after the search warrant found all the stuff.\n\nTook a couple pills and had a drink and just wanted to feel like a kid, okay so you've been a thief all your life and you thought stealing shit as a kid was fun and fine.", "Stupid sexy crates", "\"There's no excuse for it. *but*...\"\n\nSaid that about 8 times", "Why are you so triggered by those words? They're an accurate description", "Great video, glad that technology has enabled us to better protect ourselves and belongings.", "Work from home jobs if that's available to you. Some places even have passable internet. \n\nThe last few years could have been a huge boon to small towns. If only they weren't so hateful of other people.", "Is that Whistlin’ Diesel??", "I really dislike when people choose not press charges. You're basically telling these people that they can get away with their stupid decisions.", "i would have pressed charges lol, fuck this thief blaming it on pills and alcohol when it was clearly planned out", "> If my stuff gets stolen, it's much less likely to be one of my close neighbors in germany than it is in the US\n\nWhere is your evidence?\n\nShow us. Show us the evidence of this. Show us the actual facts you repeatedly claim to have. You said outright in another post, \"there is no way I am incorrect.\"\n\nProve it.\n\nWe'll wait.", "this dude has been stealing for a long, long time, 100% guaranteed\n\nthe reason he has all of that stuff is because he's been stealing his whole life", "i would have pressed charges lol, fuck this thief blaming it on pills and alcohol when it was clearly planned out", "Not the point. What he does to his own property is up to him. Just because he has money doesn't mean it's ok for anyone to just take his property", "Really weird that's where you went. Get help.", "I love that he didn't accept the money at the end. \"Keep your money I just humiliated you in front of your family. That's worth 1000 cameras.\"", "\"Everything gets made into a race thing and it can get tiring\" ...\n\nContinues to turn a video about a white guy in the boonies dealing with a white thief about black and white racial issues", "Wish the cops didn't want to charge me when I got arrested. Got into a fight with a guy that I started. By the time it was done, he just told me to go home. But the police came after me like I just murdered the Pope. Went to my grandma's house, my dorm, my class trying to find me.", "I lived next door to a cop, and asked him nearly this same question\\*. His answer was that sometimes it's better to \"keep the peace\" in a neighborhood. \n \n\\*It was about why they didn't arrest a kid who broke into a house in my dad's neighborhood and stole a videogame system. The neighbor whose house it was said they'd let it go if the kid mowed their lawn that summer. Cops laughed and said that was a fair punishment. (Kid never mowed the lawn, which prompted me to ask why they didn't go back and arrest him)", "That 100k truck might be like half of the cost of those 10 videos though after considering the cost of the property, cameras, employees filming, setting up, editing, equipment.", "Who is this guy?", "CSB", "lol and saying it was the meds and alcohol. Okay are you still under the influence? Because if they were the reason you would have returned everything the next AM and not been pushing back on the search until being caught. Scum", "> it's much less likely to be one of my close neighbors\n\nAnd you know this, HOW?", "\"I just humiliated you in front of your wife you beta bitch. Keep your paltry $1400 you're gonna need it.\"", "The question is who does he end up blaming after all of this, Obama or Biden?", "I mean, in a rural area if they even *think* a black guy burglarized a place, they will shoot him in the street.", "Not the point. Don't take shit that isn't yours.", "Maybe I'm just old and bitter but some people are just too forgiving.", "For a successful youtuber the ad revenue is typically just the tip of the iceberg. They can make much more than just ad revenue by adding in additional streams of income. Such as patreon platforms, streaming, merch, sponsors, etc. Hell people will pay a pretty penny just for trashed up goods to say they have something that was once used/owned by whatever person.", "I mean the situation was humiliating but the guy was extraordinarily kind to him given the situation", ">This video has 2.5 million views in 2 days, which is probably worth more than $300,000.\n\nNot even close, the numbers i've seen is 1.000 - 5000 USD per million views. \n\"Normally, I would expect a video with 3,000,000 views to make between $6,000-$15,000. I’ve even had one video with 2,000,000 views make about $40,000. \nOn average, my videos that have over 1,000,000 views have usually earned between $2,000-$5,000.\" \n\n\nSource: Alot of diffrent ones but one of few that wasnt a paywall: \nhttps://onezero.medium.com/this-is-how-much-youtube-paid-me-for-my-1-000-000-viewed-video-1453cad73847#:\\~:text=of%20my%20videos.-,On%20average%2C%20my%20videos%20that%20have%20over%201%2C000%2C000%20views%20have,5%2C000%20range%20for%201%2C000%2C000%20views.", "That's all anecdotal. Lived in the rural south for many years. Never had a thing stolen. Neighbors were as generous as all get out.", "Guy didn't press charges. He could have and had him arrested.", "I’m not personally offended by them, but they are both insults that are either directed at skin color, place of birth, or age, all things that someone would have no control over.", "Most of the time you get like 3% which is barely anything but I’d rather just not have a monthly payment. I try to structure my life in a way that I have minimum long term commitments and can just fuck off elsewhere if I feel like it.\n\nPeace of mind > putting the money in the market and hoping it yields a return", "I'm so sorry. Please show us on the doll where the boomer touched you.", "Everyone here is using it to talk down about a group they aren’t a part of though", "How much we want to bet things would have gone much differently if the thief weren’t so pale skinned…", "LOL “this guy’s stupid”. So nonchalant the way he says it", "I have to say: turning down the money was such a dick move lol\n\nThat was the one chance the guy had to feel he redeemed some of his pride. Instead, now he’s a thief AND a charity case. You could see his soul leaving him right after the money was rejected.", "‘Twas entertaining until they decided not to press charges. This is precisely the kind of guy that needs to he taught a lesson.", "Those are like decent network sitcom numbers", "This wasn't his first time stealing shit. He likely stole his way into ownership of his house, vehicles, etc. His wife probably loves him for false reasons too.", "I honestly don't even understand his actions. Give me pain pills and alcohol and shitty misfortunes and I will do everything in my power to ensure I don't steal. This guy was a long way from being hungry and desperate enough to resort to stealing.", "> **almost** think they have a right\n\n????", "They property probably only costs $250-300k \n\nMid West land is so cheap.", "That old man should be in jail. \n\nIf it was a young kid caught stealing all of that; spraypainting cameras, and caught with all that evidence, I bet he’d have been arrested.", "No one deserves to get robbed, the theif is still a peice of shit. It doesn't matter if you brag about all the guns you own", "Looking at everything that guy has, I wouldn’t expect him to need to rip someone else off.", "\"I just wanted to feel like having fun like a kid\"... so you've stolen shit all your life and thought it would be fun to steal again. No excuses, but spends ages making multiple excuses.\n\nThe classic apology, \"I'm so sorry, but/however/this isn't an excuse....\". If you are really sorry, say that, if you keep adding excuses, you aren't sorry, just pissed you got caught.", "Bad: getting busted for stealing\n\nWorse: getting busted for stealing from a youtuber with a bazillion followers", "He was outed to his wife and the guy believed his wife didn't know. If it's true he planted a seed. It was plain as day. Anything else he probably would have lied his way out.\n\nVictim also just made good friends with all the cops in the area so if he gets robbed again it'll be that much easier.", "He straight up said \"don't take my stuff\"", "sure do", "> What I don't understand is why everyone here is so angry.\n\nYou answered this with your first paragraph!\n\n> Of course justice would be him facing the penalties and consequences of his actions. I'm not talking about that.\n\nBut this IS what you're talking about!", "…. Why are you getting downvoted for this…", "Charge this fucker with DUI then. There's no way this thief would have let something like this go if a black man had stolen it him.\n\nBut I think the \"I know you won't steal again\" is a thinly veiled threat from the YouTuber.", "Yup. There is just something so cringey about seeing someone blatantly lie and try and weasel out of a problem. The internet has desensitized me to gore and violence, but stuff like this is still surprisingly hard to watch", "What are some unconventional ways to find people", "Embrace the WFH revolution and go move in next door!", "That's not true. Plenty of crimes get charged regardless of what the victim wants. In fact, I'd say most crimes that involve a victim end up being crimes that lead to charges once the police are involved.", "Ok you missed the point of why it’s dumb.", ">NOTHING happened to him\n\nBecause he decided not to press charges. If he had there was plenty of evidence to bring the man in.", "Geekneeyus", "People in general don't understand that a reason is not an excuse. Everyone has a reason for doing something.", "I'm super conflicted on this. The guy spray painted the cameras and then denied everything to the cops, so he 100% knew he was doing something wrong. That said, once he was caught he did seem genuinely remorseful and embarrassed, especially after dude wouldn't accept his money. But still, he was overexplaining and making excuses in order to try to save face. His entire spiel was \"I know there's no excuse for what I did, but here's a bunch of excuses for what I did.\" If he wanted to be a man he could have just said \"I truly apologize for stealing from you, I feel terrible about it and am completely embarrassed. I'll pay you back for the cameras I destroyed.\" and ended it there.", "I was gonna say that but didn't want to get into it but you're right. The profits still exceed costs.", "Even in the countryside, there is little to no reason to travel with spraypaint in the car.", "It's totally rational to maximize growth rather than profit in that position and expensive stunts is a proven way to grow to the point that you pitch the stunts to red bull or whoever and they cut you a check to do it from that point on. Budget enough for an accountant to shield yourself from your company's debt, pay yourself enough to live and save a bit, write off almost everything because filming your life is your business, and borrow as much as you can now while borrowing is cheap.", "He may have blurred the faces. But in a town like thay everyone knows that family and what hes done now.", "Nah I think he's just explaining his actions, without justifying them.", "Exactly.", "Many people don't keep in mind that it's also cash in hand, which is far more than is gained by employment and buying items (income tax, plus sales tax), so often cash in hand for stolen items is like 2 TIMES what it would have \"cost\" in legitimate earnings.", "Dumbkirk", "They're all purchased with stolen goods sold at the flea market.", "I knew the difference in usage, but actually didn’t realize they were spelled differently. Thank you!", "Yep that make$ for more good content!", "“This isn’t who I am”", "Wisconsin is far from perfect. Have ya been to Milwaukee? Like actually stayed there for a while. Random drive by's, gunfire in the alleyways, sirens all hours of the day because someone can't keep from shooting someone. Some rude racist fucks out there as well. And I wouldn't bring that up if it wasn't so hard to ignore because they were obvious about it even before the pandemic.", "Actually, I think that's more than likely.\n\nConsider the alternative. He's as dumb of a thief as he is *after decades of being a thief*. \n\nDude just started stealing in his old age because he's lonely, depressed, bored, going broke/is broke, lost his retirement to stock gambling, whatever.\n\nA petty thief who can't competently steal a couple garage sale items doesn't live in that big house (even as cheap as property might be in Northern Indiana).", ">The only time I question it is if I have 0% available. Seriously, folks, if you're buying the car and have true 0% on offer, take it.\n\nif you have a 0% offer, it's going to be for a brand new vehicle, you're still going to lose more money the second you drive it off the lot.", "Sure you do. There aren't good people and evil people. We are all just people and we all do stupid shit in our lives.", "\"Redneck\"? \"Boomer\"? That's hateful.", "I'll admit that I've taken a few interesting things over the years from places that are very obviously long abandoned, but if I ever came across piles of brand new stuff inside an enclosure, I wouldn't assume it's just up for grabs.", "I don't think that's 100% correct about the dog food. The dead animals are probably a component, but that puffed shit is largely processed soy that didn't pass quality control for microbiology pathogens. It goes and sits in a hot room for some months to some years and once the contamination is dead, it's sold for animal feed. \n\nIt's probably 100% correct that some of that meat gets liquified and mixed into soy crisps, but they don't just use rotting meat. They use all kinds of other cheap contaminated shit also.\n\nEdit: if this starts a conversation about dog food ingredients, how else did you think dog food gets sold at <$50 for a 50lb bag when the price for human food is 3-5x higher? The food is sold just enough above cost to make a good profit at scale, so if the quality was as good as human food, you'd be spending more based on ingredient cost. Of course dog food companies buy processing companies' garbage. Dogs have long been able to eat garbage with minimal issues compared to humans though, stronger stomach acidic was one thing that does a lot of work I believe.", "This is the side of him I do like. He’s an incredible idiot sometimes tho, hosted a giant truck rally in a random parking lot when we should’ve been in Covid lockdown. His YouTube content is just him being kind of a dumbass with his friends but I love how they don’t give a fuck about haters. He absolutely wrecks super expensive trucks for fun but you can tell it’s for fun not views if that makes sense.. he once made a video where he hit his truck with a sledgehammer once for every comment that said he ruined expensive stuff 😂", "In a small town like that he is fucked over. He blurred faces and didnt announce address but everyone in that town knows who that thief is and he will never be trusted again.", "No I agree that it's dumb to paint over a camera after the crime, but my point was he was going to go back and steal more, probably with his friend who told him about the cameras.\n\nThe original theft was just the beginning.", "Depends. Sometimes they’ll start talking about you financing the purchase etc. before we’ve actually agreed on a price. In which case I’m going to refuse that because I assume they’ll just raise the price to make up for the lack of interest. \n\nIf we’ve already worked out a deal and THEN you ask me about financing at 0, then sure.", "Whistling’ Diesel was the wrong guy to steal from. Little did he know.", "Well I know one neighbor who suddenly needs some!", "I left my motorcycle in the woods once when it broke down, and ended up not being able to retrieve it for a couple days. My riding buddy says, \"I could see somebody being tempted to take it, I would be if it's out overnight.\" I think, what!? Who *are* you?", "Depends. Sometimes they’ll start talking about you financing the purchase etc. before we’ve actually agreed on a price. In which case I’m going to refuse that because I assume they’ll just raise the price to make up for the lack of interest. \n\nIf we’ve already worked out a deal and THEN you ask me about financing at 0, then sure.", "Yes I understand that….", "It's not entitlement, if you're entitled to something, that means that you worked for it and it is owed to you. How did entitlement get to be a dirty word?\n\nThe redneck boomer is just a prick.", "it isn't taxed so yup.", "That guys not old enough to be a boomer.", "Shitty people tend to make more money. Contractors hiring immigrants to pay them under minimum wage, scummy land lords, it's just easier to make money when you don't care who's being hurt.", "Back to social studies with you, might not embarrass yourself as hard there", "spending that 300k is marketing.\n\nGrowing his youtube channel (guessing here based off every other youtube channel - I've never watched this guys'), they have found that if they spend a bunch of money buying props/contriving scenarios/etc, the viewers will come.\n\nI'm sure there's some calculator about \"spending on video\" to \"new subscribers\" metric and it probably told him X dollars equals 1/2 X? 2x %? new subscribers.", "Ain't that some bullshit? The citizens of that county paid to have the police issue a search warrant on that thief, and when the police have the thief dead to rights, the victim of the crime decides to not press charges?\n\nFuck that.\n\nThis criminal stole and destroyed property more than once, and he wasn't remorseful when the police showed up. Instead, he called their bluff, and then had the audacity to become indignant about the search.\n\nThen, when he was just a hair from being placed in handcuffs, the guy becomes super apologetic about what he had done.\n\nNo. Throw his ass in jail.", "What if the thief is on Quaaludes?", "same -- no monthly payments equates to gigantic cashflows... both of my dogs this past month had very expensive medical emergencies, was able to pay for without even thinking of touching our emergency fund. it's a good feeling.", "No, but I don't have issues with stealing or addiction or narcissism. They have EXTREMELY shitty qualities, and getting the police involved and taking the stuff back was necessary, but this man needs help.", "The dude, in true male, Boomer fashion, never actually says, \"I'm sorry.\"", "Will do, thanks bud", "As do people who steal shit and then sell it on craigslist.", "I fuckin love WD I just saw this last night. He’s a good dude despite falling into most of Reddit’s hate boner material.", ">Complete lack of understanding of addiction.\n\nOhhh honey if you only knew", "You'd be wrong. I get the impression you're wrong a lot.", "Yeah I mean it’s obviously good marketing but I’ll take externally incentivized kindness over intrinsic hatred/cruelty/etc any day of the week", "that was the biggest fuck you imaginable. it was awesome!", "Seeing your comment, white people can get away with being really fucking stupid too.", "> Boomers just happen to have suffered a narcissism epidemic.\n\nHate to break it to you, but narcissism has nothing to do with age or generation.", "100% she was in on it\n\nher husband is coming home with boatloads of free shit all the time and she knows the money is not coming from them\n\ngive me a fuckin break", "I feel for her having to deal with her husband as he lashes out at the easiest target for his failure to except his culpability in his own misbehaviour. I hope the cops got a good read on that before they left.", "And they vote no matter what, *rain* notoriously effects big-D Democratic turnout", "Imagine if that asshole was black, those cops would have had him face first against the driveway in about 20 seconds.", "My aunt’s second husband was quite involved in a larger regional meth ring, and she had no idea. He claimed he got a raise at work, and that’s why they could afford nicer things, but she was blindsided when he was arrested and lost everything despite not having any knowledge or involvement.", "He bought 2 skyline that broke after a couple of hours, so he did a video literally trashing Tomei camshafts.", "Theif is a dickhead, but this youtuber is un-bearable annoying with how much he brags about how much he talks about how much money he can just throw away on stupid shit.\n\nMust be rich to just be a rich kid with a youtube channel.\n\nStay mad fanboys, you worship a spoiled brat.", "While there may be a generational divide here, this is pure redneck vs. redneck shit. These people are all disgusting. Could have been a 5 minute video, too. They guy's clearly trying to milk it for all it's worth.", "“We watch your videos on Facebook.”", "He's lucky WD didn't buy all his cars just to destroy them in front of him.", "The whole \"stupid stuff\" aspect of the crime was near and dear to me too. We bought an acreage and lived there for a year. We leased off the farm land to corporate and kept a little hobby farm for ourselves (hobby farm here meaning we could grow enough vegetables to feed ourselves for a year).\n\nWe had heard about rural crime rates but didn't believe it (OUR NEIGHBORS ARE SO FRIENDLY AND SALT OF THE EARTH).\n\nWe had one camera at our gate that caught his license plate he had a truck loaded full of baskets. When he got to our properties he harvested all of our potatoes, rutabaga turnips, onions, garlic, strawberries, and we're pretty certain he took a few baskets of apples off of our one tree.\n\nHe was probably on our property for a good 4-5 hours. When I got home I went to water our gardens and it was all gone. First call was to my wife asking her if she \"harvested all the vegetables and left giant tire marks all over our lawn.\" Second call was to the cops after finding the video with the license plate number.\n\nThe cops found the guy a day later at his house about 20 miles away in the same county. It wasn't a fast process. They interviewed him and then came back to me. He had claimed his family had no food and the cops wanted me to drop charges because of his bad situation.\n\nWhen he came to return food I noticed the potatoes he were returning were the wrong color, we had russets (which grow larger) and he had red potatoes... which we didn't plant. So now we couldn't accept shipment because we're convinced these were also stolen goods. We got the cops involved again. Apparently he was robbing anyone who had a hobby farm... and selling it at a farmer's market.\n\nSo after police charged him with a second theft he just asked for cash so we could replace everything ourselves. He tried to argue that because he sold them below market rates he shouldn't have to pay market rates for the vegetables.", "100%?", "Looks can be deceiving. Not sure if it was in the video or an article when it was posted yesterday, but this guy had lost his pension and was going into debt over medical bills.\n\nNo, it doesn't make stealing from others ok, just pointing out that things aren't always exactly as they seem.", "Agreed", "“There’s not a good excuse.” So, here’s a bad one for you.", "There's a very thin line between explanation and excuse, and when you start to rattle off multiple different \"explanations\" one after the other (and only when you're caught red-handed), then they start to sound like excuses.\n\n\"No excuses, but I took pain pills and drank some beers.\"\n\n\"No excuses, but I saw the sale sign and thought the stuff was abandoned.\"\n\n\"No excuses, but the doors were wide open.\"\n\n\nex·cuse\n\n\n1. a reason or explanation put forward to defend or justify a fault or offense.", "What am I misunderstanding?", "The best part is the guy demanding to see pictures and then asking where the camera was...because he missed spraying that one with paint. I have to assume this thief is now known to the locals and he's in for years of embarrassment, or worse.", "This. Combine with the message at the end \"We're giving out a $300,000 reward for finding a $20,000 machine.\"", "The their spends the whole.time expressing his feelings (embarrassed) and explaining his thought process (it was all just sitting there) and coming up with excuses (pills and beer). He never apologized.", "So what you're saying is we should all go steal whatever we want, because the only thing that will happen to us is we'll have to give the stuff back, if we get caught.", "It's like they're holding nothing at all!", "Plus he said he watches the dudes youtube videos.", "Crate: Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all...", "Sounds good. You just see a young dude with a ton of money and start to wonder.", "All I'm going to say on that subject is that some people attach value to intangibles that come with buying a new car.\n\nAlso, right now, if you can find a new vehicle at MSRP, take it. I'm currently looking at Carmax pricing where they're at or over MSRP on two year old, 24,000 mile, vehicles.", "The guy is offering 300k to find a skid loader. 1400 is but pennies.", "I'm obsessed with baiting thieves to steal tracked items just to get some justice porn Im gonna do this soon", "…she didn’t know and was saying that trying to convince him to take the money.", "I'll bet you he was going to sell that stuff for cash for a drug habit he's trying to hide.", "Redneck v redneck", "He doesn't believe him, he just doest care. Part of the reason why he's selling/moving anyway.", "Plus if the old guy ever steals from this kid again after all this, the prosecutors and judge are going to crucify him.", "If i had the means, Id go to Indiana and search for that skid loader for a couple of months. 300k is a bit more than I make in a year lol.", "\"That vehicle doesn't have a license plate so I couldn't say.\"\n\n\\*\\*Shows a different vehicle with a license plate\\*\\*\n\n\"Oh shit.\"", "You were. They literally talk about what he does in the videos", "I'm astounded the cops DID anything. Even with video i expected them to weasel out of it, 'well we didn't see him TAKING the stuff, just driving THROUGH. The ramos are the only thing we can do anything about.'\n\nAnd then drag the orocess out lol", "Well that was overly long and lame and disappointing", "If he's selling stolen stuff it would explain the cash...", "Drinks, abuses prescription pain pills, steals to maintain the habit, votes republican so cannabis never gets legalized and drug laws get harsher.", "One anecdote does not disprove the existence of systemic racism.", ">Are you saying a black person living on that same property would have been treated differently?\n\nIs that a joke?\n\nIf this was a black man, they would have had him face down and cuffed in the driveway within 20 seconds of entering the property. Or they would have said his breath smelled like marijuana and used that as \"probable cause\" to enter the property the first time they were there talking across the fence.", "Fuck thieves. This dude denied it until he couldn't and then cried tears with some sob story.", "The video is way longer than it needs to be", "So painfully to watch watch an old fucko.", "If you don't mind, can I ask what made you try to change? In my personal experience the narcissists I know are completely incapable of even entertaining the idea that they might be the problem so I always figured it was universal", "Yeah. People don't usually buy expensive cameras to secure abandoned shit. Dude is full of shit.", "My favorite part is, \"We watch you all the time.\" Well, enjoy this episode, brother lol", "Thanks! It’s mostly just learning to be mindful of others but still doing what’s best for one’s self at the same time. I’m still not exactly great at it but I’m not leaving a trail of burned bridges and broken relationships everywhere I these days so it’s a win.", "> I wonder if neighbors resent him for whatever reason for doing YouTube stuff.\n\nIf I had to guess, assuming he’s not a Bam Margera-esque nuisance, probably jealousy over his success at such a young age.", "Great video. \n\nThe guy would have been much better off just ending it at \"I have no excuse.\"", "He gave the money back because the camera was on. He doesn’t care since he’s moving away from this town. So the guy is going to be someone else’s problem now.", "The victim deciding to \"press charges\" or not is quite alien to me, in Britain if you break the law and involve the Police it's out of your hands, which to me is the right and fair way, removes any possibility of coercion for a start.", "The quick product review of the floor jack was hilariously unexpected.", ">And telling some sob story about being a drunk on pills.\n\nKinda of like Mr. Hanky on antidepressants. Makes you crazy.", "Thief is only embarrassed because he got caught 🤦‍♂️", "Anybody got pics of the crates? For... research.", "Yeah fuck that guy.", "Based on what? If an old black guy lived there, what social circles do you imagine he would be running in?", "Feels like i'm containing.. nothing at all! ^nothing ^at ^all! ^^nothing ^^at ^^all!", "Um. 99% of channels wont make much of anything no matter how many videos they upload. Not sure where you got that", "If it was the Hobbit Trilogy, then I completely agree with him", "Spose I should elaborate. It would be nice if these situations were handled the same if the thief was anything other than white.", "Makes you wonder how much lies and deceit went into getting all of that stuff.", "Congratulations on getting out of that relationship, that’s incredibly difficult to do and I’m proud of you, fellow stranger. I do hope you recover and stop replaying the arguments.. You freed yourself physically, I know you can break the loop in your head. I recommend looking into psychedelic assisted therapy <3", "Yeah it's stupid not to charge him. He's an older guy that probably doesn't care about getting shamed on the internet but more importantly has probably done this shit before to other people.", "Wait a minute! That's my 3 cars, huge house and garage! Son of a bitch!!!", "Do you know his dad better than him?\n\nI take that line to mean that this theft is something he could always be expected to do rather than a one time thing outside of his normal character.", "Don't forget the guy was able to come up with $1400 CASH ON THE SPOT", "Just look at how his behavior changed throughout the video. \n\nThe trail cameras show very intentional acts to steal and hide evidence by destroying the cameras and removing his license plates. \n\nWhen the cops first pull up, he's angry and demanding to see all the evidence, saying \"There's no plates\" and \"Where's the camera?\", then goes and shuts the door to hide the stolen property.\n\nThen when they actually come to search the property, he is still visibly angry and confronting the cops, before they finally find the stolen stuff.\n\nThen all of the sudden, once his back is to the wall and he's clearly about to get arrested/fined, he is magically remorseful and has a sob story.\n\nIt's disgusting that people are acting like he was genuinely sorry for what he did. If he was sorry, he would have immediately apologized and given the stuff back as soon as the cops showed up *the first time*.", "Thats exactly when I turned it off actually", "Worked on me. His content isn’t really for me, but I subscribed anyways because he seems like a good dude.", "Maybe that shouldn't have pulled the ladder up once they made it to the top. Maybe they shouldn't have spent years bitching about avacado toast. People in glass houses...", "Piece of shit klepto bastard. Fuck that guy.", "I grew up around addiction. Been around it my whole life. To say I have a complete lack of understanding about it because I'm not giving this guy a get-out-of-jail-free card is as ignorant as you're trying make me out to be.", "I picked an extreme example so that you could understand the more nuanced ones too. Such as this one. If there’s never been a thief in the area, Doug gets on pain pills and starts drinking, and suddenly everyone’s shit starts going missing—well, it’s probably Doug stealing right? But you can’t exactly lock him up on probability. Our criminal justice system says the same about other crimes. Just because our hypothetical serial killer picked a victim over 6’5 with purple hair doesn’t mean you can prove he killed the other 40 too based on “what are the odds?” The doctrine of chances, which does allow that, needs each of those murders to be tied to the killer in some way beyond a victim matching an (albeit very particular) description. Purple haired women over 6’5 get murdered by non serial killers too, you know?\n\n(The classical example of the doctrine of chances being applied is a husband whose 9 wives throughout his life all died face up in an accidental bathtub drowning. Notice how the husband-defendant was directly tied to each victim?)\n\n———\n\nPrison is a bad place, but ruining the good parts of a criminal justice system to avoid the bad parts doesn’t really advance the much needed reform. It’s like if your pipe burst and so the solution was to no longer use water in your home rather than to just fix the pipe.", "It was a power move. Denied the thief from making amends. 1400 is prob not a lot to the thief considering how big his property is and how many cars he has.", "It's really not that bad. Sun goes up, sun goes down, sometimes it rains sideways.", "Yeah I lost count of the \"Not an excuse, but...\"'s", "and he trashed a >$250k monster truck in a video too", "Cops should of unloaded a clip on his old ass. If that old sac of shit wasn’t white he’d be rotting in prison or dead.", "I can't say this for sure but, if you keep flexing those specific behaviors in your brain, it'll become easier and easier and easier, until it's just second nature :)", "\"Don't go broke trying to look rich\"\n\nPlenty of folks need to take that saying to heart", "Why do you not know how to feel about him? Do you spite him cause he has money? And if the dude wanted to give money to someone that needs it he doesn’t need that $1400 to do it. Also whats with the first paragraph? Makes no sense why youre doing that. Theres some serious envy.", "It is discretionary. The District Attorney could still press charges, but will often take the request of the victim into account.", "you can apply the same \"intangibles\" to not having monthly payments. when it comes to personal finance, you have to consider both the *finance* and *personal* aspects and how they relate to one another.", ">Also, my dad is not a nice person.\n\nKind of redundant to add this at the end.", "> I don't have issues with stealing or addiction or narcissism \n> this man needs help\n\nSee how easy it is to make assumptions? The evidence is there.", "How do you think he got all of that?", "Check out this SportsCenter Instagram post from yesterday:\n\nhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/CXzcTxboD7e/?utm_medium=copy_link", "My kids want to do a youtube channel so bad but I won't allow it.\n\nMaybe I should rethink that.", "You say that because you’re a decent person. I think it’s *possible* this experience “set him straight” and I like to hope it would, but you’re also strongly underestimating the ability of manipulative people to feel no shame whatsoever.", "> Stealing from neighbors is one of the lowest form of thievery.\n\nAlso the most common. Most burglary is 1 or 2 degrees of separation AKA it's someone you know or a friend of someone you know.", "A few days I could get behind. Just something that won't be entirely life altering, as the crime itself was not life altering for the victim.", "Whistling Diesel is a pretty huge Youtuber. I bet he's got a ridiculous bank account between the videos, sponsorships, and merch.", "Idk man, if they are selling lots of expensive stolen goods, they may not want to go depositing all that in a bank. If they get an audit it probably wouldn’t look to good to have tons of unexplainable income.", "I never claimed it did, and one anecdote (OP's video) does not prove the existence of systemic racism either, which is what the guy above me was suggesting when he said \"imagine if the old fuck was a black man, a muslim, a gay man, etc.\"", "??? His job is uploading YouTube videos. How is that any different than any other video or movie or tv show being made solely for profit? If you feel strongly about it probably gonna run out of things to watch.", "Couldn't they still arrest the guy, even if the victim didn't want to press charges?\n\nAlso, a little confused about the apple air tags. They were mentioned at the beginning, but it doesn't seem like they came into play in terms of either finding the thief, or proving he did it.", "I didn't quite get the /r/justiceserved I wanted from this video.", "Is this guy just loaded as fuck or something? Why is he offering a 300k reward for his dad's skid loader?", "> They will leave no stone unturned if anyone steals from him again\n\nI see you've never dealt with the police.", "I’m downvoting him because he said “downvote me” and that’s a little bitch move to preemptively complain about downvotes", "\"There's no excusing my behavior, but here's fifty excuses why I did it\"", "I think it was more shameful not to get charges or have to pay the $1400. Now he’ll forever feel indebted and will have to know that the person he stole from is a bigger man. If he returned everything and paid him back, he might feel satisfied that all was set right. Now he’ll always be a bit unbalanced. Plus, everyone gets to see his POS face on YouTube. (I would have charged him though)", "His name came up on screen, whistlindiesel. 3 million subs, that's money territory lol. I winder if that's why the cops had the case open and shut in a few hours lol", "That is 100% a boomer mentality. \n\n\n\"He doesn't work hard enough to deserve this. \\*I\\* work way harder than him. \\*I\\* deserve that stuff. Im going to \\*take\\* that stuff from him, to punish him.\" \n\n\nI saw this shit so much growing up. Grown ass adults seeing a person who they dont know from Adam, getting disgusted in their apparent wealth and inventing absurd stories about how they got it just so they could hate them a little harder. Spinning fantasies about how sweet its gonna be to watch them lose it all and end up in the gutter not able to feed themself. \n\n\nI think a person further up hit the nail on the head saying the boomers went through a narcissism epidemic.", "I like you, and I mean this genuinely for what's inside of you, because you took the time to look at yourself, you took the time to understand, and a lot of us people don't do that. Obviously you're still a person you're still going to make mistakes. It's okay tho, because you can always learn more and that's the beauty of life. :D", "the reason he has so much is probably lack of empathy and willingness to treat others like shit/steal.", "The whole sob story at the end is a crock of shit. Fuck him for stealing. Should go to jail for being such an ass even after the police came to his house and said we have it all on tape.", "So did I. And I know these people can be impossible, and have a never-ending list of excuses. But have you had experience with someone recovering from this way of thinking? My personal experience with that side of things is that these people can learn, even through all the bullshit that comes out of their mouth, internally they can (not always) learn and make their way out of this way of living. There is no excuse that is truly an excuse, but there's a good chance in my opinion that this confrontation did actually have an impact, if they have the support system to learn from it and seek help.\n\nThe reason I said lack of understanding of addiction isn't because I think you don't understand that this guy is currently acting awfully and is enacting shitty behaviour, I think it's because there's no charitability for him to learn from this interaction, which is the attitude in this thread. He can learn from this, even if his words are excuses.", "Well youd have to look at it proportionally. If someone stole a dead plant from your garden would you be devastated beyond repair?", "The comments here are the most reddit thing ever. A video about a white guy in the boonies getting something stolen by a white thief is somehow being turned into a discussion about injustices that black people face", "Trust me it’s the same way here. Once you call the cops they can choose to charge someone if there’s enough evidence. Doesn’t matter if the original caller wants to press charges or not. My brother in law is severely mentally ill. He’s also huge. Years ago he was riding with my wife and he snapped and started kicking her. She and her dad had to call the cops because they physically could not restrain him. Cops came and arrested him. My wife didn’t want to press charges because her brother is not well. DA didn’t care and charged him anyway. I think this case is different because it’s theft and he got his stuff back but I think the DA could choose to still charge the guy.", "Then why the reaction? It was completely up to him it's simple.", "He knew the guy was a rich young YouTuber and wanted in on that. So he took it.", "It was the old dude's own money to begin with (the $1400 that the two cameras he destroyed were valued at) but man it must've been such a good \"fuck you\" moment for that kid. To say \"hey, I don't NEED your money because I'm already rich as fuck, so take this shame money back\" has gotta be the best feeling in the world", "It is still work. Take anything you like and make it a job and you will grow to hate aspects of it. In order to keep you channel growing and making money you need to have a constant stream of videos coming out that means lots of editing and production. There is equipment costs, and dealing with internet people too. Imagine playing Among Us for 10 hours a day to get 1 hour of funny clips, sounds awful.", "Made me think about all the shit he’s stolen for which he was never caught.", "Your view is absolute garbage. Do you enjoy being on your self-designated moral high ground? I’m all for forgiving people in the right context, but this guy is a premeditating thief who preys on his neighbors. \n\nWhy do you think he’s genuinely remorseful? Because he was caught red handed? After noting the victim’s property was open and had a sale sign on it? That’s definitely not an excuse. After spray painting security cameras, returning to the place of theft, and being confronted on his property by police in front of his wife and cameras - a few meters away from the stolen property in his house? \n\nHe never considered returning the items to his neighbor but he’s genuinely remorseful in front of cameras and police? That’s genuine remorse? You utter dolt. \n\nMost of Reddit is cynical and angry, genius, you’re not special for being delusional and virtue signaling.", "I can't help but think how this would've been handled differently if either party was a minority.", "Fair enough, I googled and the top result said $.1-$.3 per view, which seemed high to me, but I went with it. Still 2.5 million in 2 days means it will probably be much higher in the end. Might depend how you monetize it too, how many commercials air during, and what the topic is(car review might be worth more than fart jokes).", "Its called crocodile tears.", "I lived in rural areas exactly like that for 25 years. I've seen carbon copies of this dude 100 times over. Scummy dicks who burn cash on expensive toys to fill their 2-5 garages who preach hard work and responsibility while they get a passive income from some place they own in town and absolutely nothing is their fault or responsibility.", "It’s technically that way in America as well. If a crime has been committed, a cop can arrest you whether the victim wants them to or not. “Pressing charges” is usually just a verbal, non-binding agreement to testify against someone in court. Cops usually ask the victim here when petty property crimes/trespassing/vandalism happens because it’s hard to convict someone without a victim’s testimony.\n\nIf the crime is serious enough the cops will just arrest you. “Pressing charges” is a very informal agreement that has been glamorized in movies and TV.", "Alright, that's a fair point.", "Cleptomania is a legit mental illness. Some of the worst shoplifters around are bored housewives of millionaires highlighting that it's not always about material needs. The same way pyros need to see flames. It's a need that most people find bizarre.", "Wait...the gate was open with a for sale sign and stuff laying out by a sign?", "How is this related?", "Ehh. It wasn’t really any one thing. This will sound a bit stupid but I was at my kids T-ball game years ago and I looked around at the other parents. \n\nWhen I realized that most of them not only weren’t bored or annoyed at being there but were actually enjoying it I started doing some introspection. It was pretty evident that something was wrong. After a while I ended up in rehab for a nice long time and the professionals there helped me make sense of what I was beginning to suspect. But yeah, I guess that t ball game was my “moment” as much as I had one, anyway.", "Imagine someone stole your things and you weren’t a wealthy young white man, the cops would maybe show up a few hours later only to treat you like a criminal", "> You absolutely don't. Cops can proceed against victim's wishes even. And have many times. \n\nSure but you need the victims cooperation. He's going to have to testify about ownership and [lack of] authorization and you should know that.", "You're better off.", "I would make it my mission in life to show all of his neighbors that he is a thief and to shun him and his wife. Every business in town should know as well.", "Most entertaining dude on YouTube IMO. Took me a little while to come around but I watch his stuff almost daily now. Start with his Hilux durability testing videos.", "What difference does it make that the guy was old? Why refer to him as a \"boomer\" at all, when an asshole is an asshole regardless of age.", "\"Do not take this medication with alcohol due to risk of:\n\n - dizzyness\n\n - headache\n\n - elevated blood pressure\n\n - going out and stealing a bunch of random shit\n\n - diarrhea", "That’s one possible use, but the problem is a stalker could just as easily do the exact same thing to track a person. It’s why Apple warns you if someone else’s AirTag is moving with you. I’m sure there are real-world examples of how AirTags have been used to find stolen property, but I wouldn’t bank on it. Either the thief has an iPhone, in which case Apple warns them about the foreign AirTag and tips them off, or they don’t, and there’s nothing to relay the tracking signal off of.", "What 😅 what are you trying to say?", "Apple literally payed ESPN just yesterday to make a post about how good the iPhone 13 camera is.", "What makes him a redneck and not the guy who made the video tho?\n\nSerious question, are people who live in rural areas with trucks rednecks or just ones that do something bad?", "I should've just read this comment before typing out the exact same thing.", "Not after he's done with them.", "If they were able to save $50,000 at one time they sound better than my co workers at least lol. They burn through everything as soon as they get the check and finance stuff they can't afford", "Guy hates electronics too much for a new truck lol", "Yeh, that's like 5 years kind of stuff.", "What does his age have to do with this? Thieves come in all ages…SMH", "I wonder if there was a skid steer parked out back.", "I don't know why everyone is assuming the wife didn't know anything about it. This asshole stole thousands of dollars worth of property. I know some asshole redneck lowlives and their wives would cry just like this while knowing exactly what was going on the entire time. An hour before the cops showed up they were probably laughing at the youtube kid they ripped off.", "He makes red neck boomers look bad.", "I totally expected to not actually see a boomer because it seems everyone who is semi-older is a boomer now, but that dude is definitely a boomer.", "I think he genuinely felt bad for the wife", "r/justiceporn", "That's a big assumption. People aren't as good as you think. So many people are really terrible people to the core.", "Ah, thank you for that explanation, makes much more sense that there's a level at which it is not optional. Must admit I've never looked it up for the details, you just hear about the option of \"pressing charges\" being a thing. I mostly hear it when kids who've watched an episode of CSI think that's how the law works here in the UK!", "Yea when it comes to a felony I've never seen it be up to the person as it's the state who presses the charges. My SIL punched her cousin in the face in a hospital (ling story) and the cousin didn't want to press charges but the state did and you better believe she had to go to court.", "Back in HS one of my buddy's family had a hunting lease out in East Texas. One September when they were prepping the cabin for hunting season, he came back and exclaimed about how some local jerks had broken into the cabin and stolen everything, even a 30+ year old third hand electric oven.\n\nThis was a family of blue collar workers, so it was like a tragedy.", "I feel like I explained that pretty thoroughly in my initial comment that you replied to. It’s felony theft. He should give the stuff back, pay for the cameras, AND go to jail. The victim shouldn’t be able to decide whether or not he’s punished for his crime…that’s what the justice systems literal job is. \n\nWhat is the point of making theft illegal if there is zero repercussion for it?", "Immigrants have cash and/or safety deposit boxes.", "Exactly how I feel. Cody is brilliant.", "Seems like entitlement and resentment would be pretty closely related. When a person feels entitled to something they don't get, and they see others they get it who they don't feel deserve it, that would breed a good bit of resentment!", "I doubt this was his thought process but that money is a bit of a grey area, not worth the possible legal headache. As an example, there would be issues if he gave an inflated figure for the value or damage.", "Imagine stealing from your neighbor in the Bible Belt. What a dumbass.\n\nLiterally broke one of the ten commandments.", "Oh ya, I’m all good! I’m a single guy workin from home, who enjoys a stiff drink and a lady’s company. That was just a ‘what if’ statement. I dunno those folks from a hole in the wall but wish em the best. Felt pretty bad for the guys partner in that clip. But these days…ya never know. She may have been totally complicit in the whole thing.\n\nAnyways, thanks for checking in friend! Merry Christmas to you/yours and enjoy your holidays!", "Wouldn't this be Tennessee?", "What does his age have to do with anything?? Last time I checked thieves don’t apologize.", "I hate to say this but he ain’t gonna catch the guy who stole his skid steer. Those are usually taken by theft rings and those people are VERY VERY good at hiding there tracks (I work for a tool rental company and we see this shit all the time) VERY RARLEY do they recover those machines.", "The man lost his pension and was going into debt with medical bills. I'd say that's a pretty likely reason to *start* stealing.", "Not just 2 sins, breaking 2 of the 10 commandments. \n\nShall not steal and Shall not covet thy neighbor. Maybe even 3 with Shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor considering all the crazy excuses he uses.", "One doesn't get rich by being afraid of accepting money.", "yes", "Even if they don’t feel the shame, the video ensures that everyone else sees the shame and embarrassment.", "Worse than jail time? Not too sure about that lol.", "I could totally see the DA from this case charging the guy. They had to go get a search warrant. There’s a police report. This is going to get escalated.", "what the fuck are you talking about", "He had recently lost his pension and was going into debt over medical bills...", "I bought a property like this one, started building on it. I only had 1 neighbor down the road, a gravel road which was a dead-end and my other neighbors were about half a mile up the other way. The main road was about a mile away. \n\nMy only neighbors would constantly steal my tools while I was away. I'd come back to build and find empty beer bottles all around, but my ladder, leafblower, and even the lumber I ordered to build my house would disappear overnight. \n\nIt's because that land has been vacant so long, they act like its theirs. They don't know the person there and/or don't respect them, so anything on that property might as well belong to them!", "Yep this was definitely Tennessee.", "What are the chances if this was a black man stealing thousands of dollars in property from his neighbors in this rural town, entering their privste property, committing felony burglary, likely grand theft auto, obstruction of justice, etc that this squad of white detectives would just let him give a little apology and walk away uncharged?\n\nWhat a bunch of fucking bullshit. This guy should be in prison, it shouldn’t even be a question.", "There is a tree within walking distance of his house so he must be a redneck", "*would have", "It's the theft equivalent of \"I'm not racist.....but\"", "Why wasn't he charged for drunk driving?", "Which is easily done without blowing the listener's eardrums out.", ">cultural slurs\n\n\nwow", "What are the chances if this was a black man stealing thousands of dollars in property from his neighbors in this rural town, entering their privste property, committing felony burglary, likely grand theft auto, obstruction of justice, etc that this squad of white detectives would just let him give a little apology and walk away uncharged?\n\nWhat a bunch of fucking bullshit. This guy should be in prison, it shouldn’t even be a question.", "It was a kind, potentially calculated gesture. Along with what some of the other comments said, the fact is the YouTuber is still going to live close to these people after the dust settles. Not pressing charges and giving him the extra cash out of good will might just incentivize him to act like a better neighbor and not do anything to retaliate in the future.", "Just from youtube or what? I know nothing about him.", "This is completely pointless if he wasn't charged. Seriously way too nice to this redneck fuck", "Or because they know that arresting and charging him could put a burden on his family, so instead, now that they know he's a theif they watch him like a hawk, and next time he does something stupid the prosection will have a mountain of evidence from both instances. When the jury sees the guy taking the money back and being all apologetic, then going on to steal again, he won't have a chance.", "Next time...which there will be... he will for sure be prosecuted", "Nah, he got emasculated and revealed as a liar in front of his wife. He will be faced with hesitancy and doubt for anything involving trust for the rest of his life. Felonies and jail time can't compare.", "True but they got a warrant to search his entire property. Also in a town that small he will be on the cops radar now and forever.", "I had an uncle like this. Kept about $10k in cash and gold in a floor safe, incase in his words \"shit its the fan and things collapse\". No other prep. Just the money.\n\nI asked him one day, if the government collapsed how much he really expects government issue notes to be worth. Or any currently accepted \"currency\" for that matter? \"You can't eat gold, or load it into a weapon. Its just shiny metal thats too soft to be useful. The cash is just paper that has value cause the government says so. If shit truly hits the fan, why do you think money is the thing thats going to save you?\"\n\nHe did not have an answer.", "Small town dynamics are at play here. In my experience, cops almost always ask you if you want to charge the person in places like where I'm from. When everybody knows one another, or at least *of* one another, like they do in a small town, being the guy who gets another well known member of the community arrested can cause you more trouble than it's worth on a social level. So they ask what you want to do. Shit spreads like wildfire in small towns and it will make you look like the bigger person if you choose to let something slide like that. Could be helpful to you down the road.", "I think prosecuting increases the chances of change. Not saying every crime needs to be prosecuted, and plenty of people deserve a warning. In this case it was clearly premeditated and planned(face mask, spray painting camera), and when confronted he lied and made the police get a warrant. Don't blame the youtuber, empathy is a good thing, but I think the police who's job is to enforce the law should have made the arrest. I'm assuming charges could still be filed, so we'll see if anything happens. \n\nI'm not saying the guy should be executed or thrown in prison for a decade, but he should face some legal consequences. Plenty of people have been arrested for less.", "I didn’t have a problem, consider not being a hyperbolic puss.", "I have. In fact, I watched a video where LE not only did their jobs, they did them really well, including getting a search warrant in only 20 minutes, rolling an additional 3 detectives on the scene, then physically loading up the victim’s property into his truck for him. Can’t seem to remember where I saw that, though…", "Absolutely. That dude is trash and he probably laughed at this kid for giving the money back. All these redditors with morals projecting them onto this dude and his wife don't understand the mentality of scumbags.", "I'd like to add that this is one person's experience. Where I'm from on Texas could definitely be considered the \"boonies,\" all they way down to driving 30 minutes one way every morning to school the next town over. \n\nI have never had anything stolen from me or my family. Nothing was ever locked, not even the front door to the house.", "I'm not saying I know the solution, but I can point out some of the flaws. Maybe more transparency in the form of feedback of people who have reported crimes.", "Yeah this was fake if you didn't press charges there wasn't a real crime guaranteed this is all set up and not real", "thank you for typing this out. I agree with you 100% and was also convinced people would chill the fuck out. I hate the culture we live in. all angry and unforgiving", "Small town. Dude's reputation is gonna be shattered over some shit like that.", "Lmao.\n\nA black man was killed in the street, on camera, because of a possible fake 20. The store attendant didn't want to press charges either. This was just last year, remember?\n\n\n If you're white, you walk. Sorry reality offends you so much. Be better.", "Obviously to dissuade people from commiting crime. But it's silly to whine about how things should've gone when that's not how the system is designed.\n\nYou explained fine but at the end of the day the situation was the dude got caught the police asked if the owner wanted to press charges and he declined. End of story.\n\nYou say you understand that but you're just upset he wasn't punished. \n\nI agree with you for what it's worth but it's important to view things for what they are and not what you think they should be.", "I'm sure the video is making the rounds on the local facebook groups.", "If cops have the information needed (like this guy provided), they're typically very helpful. It's also a very quick case under those circumstances. Far different than someone just saying they think someone stole their stuff (just like the video explained). They also had to do something or risk public backlash for letting a confrontation potentially turn violent with the guy at the thief's property already.", "Sorry I took some pills, drank some booze and went for a joyride. \n\n\nMan life really is different in the country", "Keep in condiceration that most of the views comes from the first days of the video being uploaded, after that most video drasticly looses steam.", "I think you underestimate the embarrassment living in a small town where EVERYONE will see this video. Dude will be a pariah", "I can see how they're related, but I don't think entitlement fits here entirely. Your example centers around someone feeling entitled to what they don't have/get. I don't think that's applicable here, and why I make the distinction in my mind. This thief has what he's stolen, or at the very least the means to obtain that sort of property legally if he desired them.\n\nI think in this case he's stealing something he probably already has from someone he thinks doesn't deserve it. This notion in my mind is helped along by his attitude about the camera placement and the content of the videos. He wants to teach these uppity no good so and sos.", "Hmm, maybe I'll start doing that.", "Church on Sunday is gonna be a much more interesting experience for him than usual. He'll have more eyes on him than the priest.", "FWIW, the city center schools often tend to be highly mixed (especially in the current generation where living in the city became cool again and some of the flight to the suburbs effect reversed).\n\nIf you live in the right neighborhoods or have a kid smart enough to get into the selective enrollment schools, the urban city schools can actually be very good. But if you live in the wrong neighborhood, your school is trash. \n\nFor example, Chicago is home to the #4 high school in the country according to US News (and #26, 57, 70, 79 and more...out of like 20k). But those are all selective enrollment/magnet schools that you have to test into. There are also some neighborhood schools with excellent programs, but they tend to be set in neighborhoods with million dollar+ homes. There was a [minor scandal a few years ago when a former super-rich governor was accused using a false address to send his daughter to one of these public schools (bought a condo in the city and claimed it as her actual residence)](https://abc7chicago.com/bruce-rauner-walter-payton-high-school-cps-pat-quinn/143205/)...they are just that good. Guy could afford any private school, he owns a mansion in maybe the best suburban district in the state, but his daughter went to a Chicago Public School.\n\nIf you're not rich and your kid isn't smart enough to go to the magnet schools...well then too bad. Either send them to the neighborhood school (which could be real shitty if you live in a poor neighborhood), try to find a charter school that works out, or send them to a catholic school (which can actually be remarkably affordable in the city).\n\nBut if you move to the suburbs, even if your kid is kind of dumb, you can still send them to great schools. There are several suburbs not too far from the city with not totally unreasonable house prices (high taxes though) that have schools in the top 100-500 (there are 20+ thousand high schools so that's still VERY GOOD). Your kid gets into those schools automatically just by living there, and you don't have to pay a dime of extra tuition.\n\nedit: I should note though that I don't actually put much stock in this grade school rating stuff. #1 > #1,000 > #10,000, but its not that important. Tons of evidence out there that outcomes have more to do with the parents and kid than the actual school. As long as your school isn't total shit, your kid will end up fine. The difference in outcomes between an \"OK\" suburban school and the \"best\" suburban district in the state are marginal...and if you'd have to spend a lot of money buying a house/paying taxes in order to live in that district, you might be better off living in the cheaper district and spending some of the savings on tutoring/extracurriculars (and on being a more present, less financially stressed parent).", "If they were black they would have just open fired at the garage", "What a fucking asshole...", "Well, where do you think all that property came from ? :)", "And then pressed no charges and gave them money. He essentially paid them for stealing his shit", "The police have earned the right to have people shit on them over and over.", "Well that escalated quickly. Not that I disagree with the general sentiment, but maybe slow your roll on making bold assumptions based on the situation. Just kidding, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you were on the nose here. These knuckleheads are predictably awful nowadays.", "His excuse of thinking it was abandoned does not mix with destroying his cameras. A guy with that kind of house has never wanted for anything in his life. He's just a piece of shit. Beyond lucky he avoided charges.", "Iykyk", "They watch his videos all the time and they know he’s well off. That was all the justification they needed.", "Someone probably commented this already, but this looks like whistlindiesel the YouTuber. Might explain whats happening in the video.", "Depends on how well liked or known the black guy is. Has less to do with color in small towns and more to do with who you are. If it was a black guy nobody knows, sure, they would probably throw the book at him just as they would a white guy nobody knows. If everybody knows the guy, he's getting off easy. I've seen it a thousand times where I live, regardless of color.", "Oh sure there's envy but I don't think it invalidates anything I said.\n\nI don't know how to feel about him because he doesn't seem like a *bad* guy per se, but he ended up giving money to a thief. He went in talking about taking vengeance, but then he ended up rewarding a bad deed. I don't know if it was his idea of kindness or if it was done purely for an ego trip / display of dominance, but it's just not normal human behavior. It's hard to understand. Rich people are batshit weird.\n\nWhat's confusing about the first paragraph btw? Did you not watch the whole video?", "Just so people are aware, if you think you are doing a good deed by “being the bigger person” when it comes to criminals, they didn’t learn anything by you letting them off the hook. If this is something they have done before, they will do it again to someone else, and now that they saw they can talk their way out of it, it just makes them even more likely to do it again thinking if they get caught they can talk their way out of it again. \n\nDon’t let criminals get away with crimes because it makes you feel better about yourself. You’re just enabling them to do it to someone else who might not have these resources to catch them.", "Well yeah, white people only make tiny, forgivable mistakes but black people are pure evil. /s", "That kid is awesome and a true human being.\nI don’t know if I could have done that…", "Considering his neighbor is douchebag whistlindiesle I'd say it's the latter. Guys a complete shit heal for being a pos thief but WD is annoying as shit so seeing people fuck with him doesn't bother me that much", "Thank you for this", "\"Two pain peels anda' beeer\"", "\"There is absolutely no excuse...\"\n\"...pills and beer...\"\n\"...I thought it was abandoned...\"\n\nDude starts listing off excuses. Pills and beer? When you came off the pills and beer, why didn't you bring it back? You remembered taking it. Thought it was abandoned? Why did you black-out the cameras if you thought it was abandoned?\n\nJust a straight up thief and a liar that would have kept everything and acted pissed that he was accused if not caught red-handed by a search warrant.", "The guy he stole from is a huge Trump supporter so what's your point?", "Good to hear! You seem to be a very empathic person, and I know what you mean - if the wife had no idea what he was doing, I can't imagine the feeling of shame, disappoinment, and wondering who this person is you thought you married. Must be so painful. Happy holidays to you as well! May your drinks be strong and your lady friends always laugh at your jokes.", "Jesus fuck, calm down man. It joke, why you heff to be mad?\n\nBut if I want to push back, is it not possible to have both? And what are you comparing it to, it seems like the kid in the video is both?", "So I asked a guy once about this. My question was something along the lines of \"If you commit an act that you know is a sin, you knew it was a sin before you even planned on doing it and did it anyway, how can you ask for forgiveness after the fact and be taken by God to be sincere in your repent since you committed the sin on purpose?\" \n\nWith a follow up being \"If you ask for forgiveness after the fact and commit the sin again afterwards, would God be less likely to forgive you?\" \n\nIt's funny how questions like that don't really get answered with a straight answer.", "When the kid gave the money back in front of the wife, the guy must have felt lile he was 2 feet tall.", "I imagine the neighbor would not be too understanding about drugs, if it were another situation with a person of color involved.", "Dude is just hyped for Donkey Kong December", "> you should know that.\n\nThanks. What you said is inaccurate because police can secure a victim's appearance to testify via subpoena or a material witness warrant.\n\nNot saying it's easy to proceed with an uncooperative victim, just possible. Now if victim just lies on the stand, not much they can do.", "YouTube and merchandise I believe are it. Whistlindiesel on YouTube. He destroys almost everything. He has to make some good money. It's crazy.", "mad props for getting your stuff back. maybe the police should put an apple airtag on the dudes vehicles and see if he is where people report missing items.", "yeah, i used to teach a couple of kids whose family had horses they'd use in competitions--like, multiple horses that cost $100k a piece.\n\nmom got caught on camera stealing like $20 in groceries.", "I’m curious where you got that from. I’ve been following him for a while, and while I agree that he probably votes republican, I can’t recall a single instance where he’s stated his political preferences.", "You'd think he'd be better at it. He makes a lot of rookie mistakes. Stealing from nearby.. in a rural area, doing it in broad daylight, poorly concealing one's face in said daylight, letting two of your vehicles get seen on camera; I mean 2. Which might as well be a fingerprint because anyone might have an F250, but nobody will have your two trucks in those colors exactly. Then they could have hidden the trucks from public view in the garage or behind the structures. \n\n\nHeady mix of greed, entitlement, and utter stupidity.", "Two years ago I bought a small 7.5hp Mercury outboard motor for my dad. It was old, not in great working shape, but I worked on it for about two weeks and got it running beautifully. He used it on our 14' Jon boat and we would go out fishing together. He hadn't had a motor for about 8 years because he had more important things to use his money on. By the end of the season someone stole it right off of our boat. If you look at my dad's house, you do not assume that this guy is well off. Broke my heart, not just because I put my blood sweat and tears into repairing it, not because I lost about $600, but because my dad has to live there knowing that he has neighbors who would steal from him.", "No one loves them some revenge torture porn like the righteous.", "It’s silly to whine about our clearly flawed justice system? Alright. Let’s just keep quiet about it. Let criminals go free and innocent people get locked up. Who cares….it’s all arbitrary.\n\nJust the way it is right? And to think I was asked by someone else in this thread why I was so cynical. What a mystery", "The guy acts like he has everything going good in his life with the nice property, house, garages, several vehicles, and then, he steals this stuff from his neighbor.", "I’ve never considered the flip side of the old saw “revenge is a dish best served cold,” but I guess when it was laid out piping hot on the buffet table homeboy realized he wasn’t hungry.", "Come on now, racism in america is completely over. /s", "Its not civil law its criminal law so the victim is actually the state and the state don't fuck around when its been wronged. There no such thing as a private citizen \"requesting to not press charges\" in criminal law anywhere in the world. You even get dumbasses thinking they will withhold evidence to achieve the same thing and end up in jail themselves.\n\nhttps://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-offense/pressing-charges-a-criminal-act.htm", "Upstanding my ass they’re all fucking trash, money doesn’t make you not trash.", "This was way entertaining", "And that's where credit/financial illiteracy comes in. I'm not great with money (I have wicked bad ADHD and even medicated my impulse control with buying things is... Not great), but my fiance is. I tell her my net income each check (commissioned sales means my checks are really variable, I may gross $10,000 one month and then $2,000 the next), and she tells me what the \"fun budget\" is that month. I transfer the rest into our combined account and it goes to bill pay and savings.\n\nI also *know* I have bad impulse control, which is why I don't keep my credit cards with me or saved in any accounts unless I've planned out exactly what I'm putting on the cards. I feel like a lot of people just never were taught about finance, and then never taught any coping strategies to deal with it if you have poor impulse control when it comes to purchases.\n\nIt's funny, because that's about the only area where my impulse control sucks. The brain is weird.", "I have a feeling it should be that God will forgive *accidental* sins because we're flawed beings and prone to commit sin from time to time. But going out and willingly committing what we know is a sin, then shrugging and saying \"eh, God will forgive\", then sinning some more, might take away from sincerity of the asking for forgiveness.", "Not a religious person but I'd think the idea that God knows what's in your heart and knows whether you're truly sorry would scare the shit out of these people.", "Whistlin consistently makes some of the best content on all of YouTube.", "This is an entire town of idiots. Guy making the video included.", "$300k reward for a $20k Bobcat. Fuck man, just buy your dad a full size loader with a built-in GPS tracker.", "lol, it's a hard lesson it took forever for me to learn. I used to be all finance all the time... make payments for the interest, use credit cards for the points, etc. etc. it just appealed to my ultra logical personality, yet I was still broke af all the time. \n\nI stopped all that and started just buying things when I had the money... turns out my overall spending went down a touch over 23% and I didn't even notice a lifestyle change. small financial emergencies went away completely because my monthly cashflow was large enough to easily absorb those bumps.\n\nlife just got way easier and I can't say I ever want to go back to managing dozens of extra things for a fairly negligible payoff.", "Yeah lots of people in their early twenties now seem to think anyone other thirty is a boomer lol.", "Boomer? Is the uploader a complete idiot? 🤣 guys in his 30s or 40s. You redditors really are dumb", "Theyll do something if its the least amount of effort", "I thought this kind of thing doesn't happen to the country falks. What is this place?", "Actually it was posted with the video yesterday, but the thief had lost his pension and was going into debt over medical bills. Additionally, while the property may be large, there are 2 houses and 4 people living there so it's quite possible he is renting.", "Well, if you get back on speaking terms tell him that w116 from Reddit thinks he's an arsehole.", "I'm envious/in awe of how big his house is, and how much storage space and land space he has! This is coming from someone who lives in a city.", "Mine does Minecraft videos. Basically his cousins and school friends watch it. The rule is he never shows his face on camera, so it's fine. \n\nTo me, they're boring , but he'll get at least 20 views per video and is happy with that. I'm sure his grandparents probably watch too.", "It's hilarious people for whatever reason feel the need to bring politics into this. Every single person in this video is more likely to vote Republican because it's a red state...\n\nNo clue what it has to do with this specific video.", "I'd be very interested to see how many times this same guy has called the cops on others.\n\nIt's a bit irritating to see they didn't arrest and charge him because that's really not up to the victim. You can indicate that you don't want to cooperate against the guy and if there isn't enough without that then they may decline to charge, but in this case they had the items in hand and a confession. \n\nThe victim didn't need to do anything else, the cops had him dead to rights. It would be interesting to see if the local prosecutor ends up going with charges after all.", "I used to hate this dude because he bears a remarkable resemblance to the dudes who bullied me in highschool, but he kinda grew on me in recent times and this video just clears it all up. A better man than me because I don't think I would've handled it aswell as he did.", "> Everyone is just so cynical and angry.\n\nYou just described the state of affairs with just about everything these days, ESPECIALLY in online interactions where viewers can watch a snippet of an interaction and generate a hateful, angry response to it.\n\nThe internet has given everyone an opportunity to have an opinion on literally everything, and LOTS of people choose to have angry opinions. Why? Anger is addicting and people feel justified when they feel that way.", "The way he chit chats and plays dumb with the cops is so infuriating. The entitlement is off the charts.", "1. He already moved and these people aren't his neighbors\n\n2. In the other thread about this, it came out the thief lost all his Christmas money in hospital bills. He stole the stuff to resell it to get Christmas gifts, so I assume the dude didn't want to take $1,400 from a family that was already struggling during Christmas. But then again I read it on the internet so it could all be made up", "This is one of my neighbors. he just moved here from California because he and his wife were ready to buy a house but they couldn't find anything large enough for their family under $800k. \n\n\nHe still has his same job, but he works 100% remote now so his only limitation on where he could move was a good internet connection. He said a house the size of the 3 bed 2 bath he bought here (not a very large house mind you its a nice but modest neighborhood) would have easily gotten into the million dollar range in Anaheim where he's from. Here they're around $180k for the same type house in a similar neighborhood.", "I’d have told him he’s the god damn shit on the bottom side of my boot and so is his wife. And if you ever come on my property again I’ll fucking shoot you.", "Either his wife is a good actor or she's completely clueless.", "> why do you even need to have the victim want to charge him.\n\nI kinda skipped around a bit in the video, but another poster mentioned that he blamed being on pills or something and not acting on his own when he was stealing. But he was driving. \n\nSo once he admitted to not being in his right mind while driving due to pills, the Deputies had enough to go ahead and arrest him for DUI.", "About what I could gather front he old guys story was he thought the property was abandoned. \n\nHe reasoned he could take whatever he wanted. \n\nThat's still theft. \n\nIf you pull up to a garage sale with no one around and start loading stuff up because you think it's been abandoned... that still makes you a theif. \n\nOld guy had done some real mental gymnastics to reason himself into a bad decision.", "I'm just trying to figure out why you are all riled up about where someone else prefers to live. What in the world about that makes you so angry?", "You could see on the thief's face that YouTuber guy giving the money back was the final nail in the mortifying coffin. He turned his body away from them he was so ashamed.", "I've asked this question too. I will admit that cash in the short term of collapse would go a long way. There will be a period where cash still holds value in people's minds and is useful before everything really goes. But once that time passes, it's just paper. What you really need is a still, and some tobacco and cannabis seeds. That's apocalypse currency.", "I don't think I could be that nice in a situation like that. In the immortal words of Hank R. Hill, [hell yeah](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IBF_uCGmL8&t=44s).", "Not really sure that I understand your point (s).\n\nIf you're rationalizing that it's ok to take advantage of a system for personal gain, \nsure I guess. Unless those gains are achieved at the expense of others, which is often the case.\n\nIn the context of a content creator, the only way to grow is creating new resources, and using what's available. Seizing opportunities isnt the same thing as taking advantage.\n\nIn the context of buy borrow die, the massive tax avoidances affect society. The people that can afford to, don't pay their share. It's a club with an exclusive membership that gets to change the rules. Low interest lending to high income earners firmly establishes an arbitrary threshold of preferential economics. Classifying those above as trustworthy and therefore deserving, and those below as irresponsible and worth exploitation. Regardless of action or explanation for either. This is how an irresponsible heir, has more respect and advantage than a hard worker that's just down on their luck.\n\nIf a plumber could borrow against their assets and subjective market value **under the same terms** as a trust fund brat, the playing field would be level. But we all know who is getting a worse deal and less options, so it isn't.\nIf you're rich enough you get to play the game, until then its paying your fees on the bench.", "Only when they need the victims help to prosecute the case and don't have evidence to throw the victim in jail for perjury or obstructing an investigation.\n\nhttps://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-offense/pressing-charges-a-criminal-act.htm\n\n> Unlike what you often see on TV, the decision to \"press charges\" doesn't rest with the victim; it rests with the prosecutor. But the victim's willingness to testify and cooperate with police and prosecutors can be crucial in the case against the defendant.", "\"Well... I am awful ashamed... I just wanted to tell you how sorry I am. This isn't what it looks like. I was being a dumb kid by trespassing on your property. But then I saw that your shed was unlocked, and you had some stuff that I wanted. So I stole your stuff, no excuse for it. It was dumb. I'm sorry for spray painting your cameras. I'm even more sorry that you had an extra one that I couldn't find. I'm sorry that I lied to the police and said that I didn't do it. But what I am most sorry for is that you guys were able to get a search warrant so fast hooo-wee you didn't even give me a chance to sell this shit first! I KNOW YOU'RE A RICH YOUTUBER THAT'S WHY I WAS CASING YOUR JOINT! Ageeyun.... so sorry that my wife found out...\"", "Good video 😄", "The reason being, it can be difficult to prosecute without the testimony of the victim.", "How much privilege can you fit into one video? This is a good attempt.", "[\"If it's a legitimate theft, the property has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.\"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Akin#Comments_on_%22legitimate_rape%22_and_pregnancy)", "He probably has a thin blue line flag on prominent display somewhere on that property.", "Hopefully the public humiliation will be enough to keep him reformed. Fuck thieves.", "I don't think there is a hard line at where the victim has a choice. The DA always has final say. But depending on the circumstances they may choose to take into account the victim's desires, especially in smaller things to help keep the system from clogging up.", "Yeah because of the millions of interactions police have a year, a handful make the \"news.\" Definitely qualifies being shit on.", "Exactly. Bet this guy has said a thing or two about women wearing revealing clothing inviting sexual assault.", "**Todd Akin** \n \n [Comments on \"legitimate rape\" and pregnancy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Akin#Comments_on_\"legitimate_rape\"_and_pregnancy) \n \n >In a local news interview, on August 19, 2012, discussing abortion, Akin claimed that victims of what he described as \"legitimate rape\" very rarely become pregnant. Airing on St. Louis television station KTVI, his response to a question on rape exceptions for abortion was: Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "Their toys were paid for in cash. She just casually walked into the house and back out with $1400. They deal in cash all the time, rural folk do this regardless of what state or even country.", "If any theft happens near that property again you know he is suspect number 1", "The system worked exactly as it was designed to.\nThe legal system offers a chance at justice not a guarantee \n\nAny system has flaws I didn't say people should give up on improving things. I said in this situation the owner was offered his chance and he declined so why get worked up? It doesn't affect you and the owner was happy with the outcome.", "We don't know a thing about what the local prosecutor's office will actually prosecute. How are they to go about arresting someone for theft when there's no cooperating victim to draw up an affidavit with or even to itemize exactly what was stolen on an official record? And if it won't be prosecuted without a cooperating victim, why make the arrest? It would be a waste of everyone's time.", "Lol. There is tons of research into systemic racism. Google that shit it's not hard. The person above didn't just pull that out their ass after seeing the video.", "Solid guy", "Either he's jealous of the successful YouTube kid next door, or he wants to sell said successful YouTube kid's stuff on ebay", "Racist ass comment if I've ever seen one. The victim didn't press charges. If the guy was black the outcome would be the same if the victim made this decision. \n\nStop sniffing for outrage and racism like a fucking truffle pig", "My friend went through this a while back. Anything they take has to be kept as evidence. Even if you catch them red-handed, you still don't get your stuff back until the person is convicted, which may be a year away. So, if he needs his stuff back, and who wouldn't, it kinda forces your hand.", "Maybe he hates himself?", "from rural Oklahoma - these “salt of the earth” folk will take your shit. My dad just had an RV stolen off our land. The kicker is the only people who knew there was an RV were family so either a hillbilly cousin or one of their friends. Also the same people who say us city folk and liberals don’t work, etc etc", "You describe that old man as a white thug?", "I hear Ya. Personally, I haven't bought a car since 2014, my dealership provides me with a company car (demo) that I can drive. I joke that the main reason I take it is because it keeps me from buying a new car every six months. I've been doing this for five or so years now, and I can't count the number of new salespeople who start working here, buy a car, then six months later trade it in and start the \"negative equity roller coaster.\" Like a rollercoaster, it has its ups, downs, and exciting parts. The problem is they both are all downhill at the end of the day.\n\nI'm also terrible at impulse control when it comes to buying things, so I generally leave my credit cards at home and only take on with me when I'm buying a specific thing that my fiance and I have planned out. I like the *idea* of credit cards as essentially \"any store in store financing,\" but I think people have forgotten that the original use for them was \"buy a specific thing, put it on the credit card, and then pay it off\" not \"hey, I'm just gonna keep using the card and rack up a massive revolving balance that I can barely make minimum payments on.\"\n\nFor the peanut gallery, yes, I'm aware that for best results with your credit score, you're supposed to have around a 30% credit utilization rate. I just personally think that's because the CC companies and banks have gotten together with the credit bureaus to incentivize bad credit behavior to make more money.", "What a half assed apology, the guy is lucky the victim was cool enough to not press charges because he was looking at a felony.", "Okay... but ESPN does not make the same content as Whistlin' Diesel", "Ouh, i'm just a lowely warehous worker.\n\nBut i heard on reddit a while ago that your American warehouse workers that drive forklifts make more then i do. I saw people claiming $22 an hour while i'm sitting on €11,89.", "He's still lying his ass off. People his age only do this because they've gotten away with it before.", "That is ESPN. The biggest sports related TV channel in the country...not some youtuber who is best known for having a big truck, destroying trucks and nearly killing himself by taking a ricochet from a 50 caliber rifle to the forehead.", "Then sold it, and it got rebuilt on two other separate youtube channels. Ngl, that's a good hustle if I've seen it.", "No way was that the case. He cased the place and came back with black paint, a mask, and no license plates. He carefully planned it. Probably for days.", "Exactly. This is the way it SHOULD be", "Weird post, first why put news in quotes? News is news lmao.\n \nSecond and more importantly, when the handful of interactions that make the “news” involve killing people, profiling people, and ruining people’s lives and then facing no consequences yeah your line of work is going to get criticized until the overall policies and culture are reformed.", "Wtf the guy makes all excuses. But meanwhile if it was this kid stealing hebwould press charges, storm hisbhiuse. Prob not even call cops wtf.", "Based on human nature. People don't typically suddenly become felony thieves in their 60s. My money would be on him being this type of person his entire life.", "yep, currency of the apocalypse will be bullets(food/protection), or water.", "As soon as the guy came out with the BS about his meds, I would’ve turned to the cops and said ok now I want to press charges.", "And it’s not even that cheap with property taxes. Overall it’s middle of the road.", "Oh! I’m fluent in Redneck language. Allow me to translate!\n\n“I HATE a Got’Damn sneaktheif. Those mudderfuckers are lowlife scum. Prolly on the whale-fair too! My buddy from overyonderuptheroad caught that got’damnsomebitch theifing his tools!”", "how DAre You OfFer Up A helPfUl SPelliNg Tip so I don'T loOk dumb in THe FUtURE‽", "Yeah, or how he got a huge property with all those buildings and vehicles, right?", "> He seemed genuinely remorseful, and refusing the money obviously had an emotional reaction on him.\n\nI hear what you're saying. And maybe.\n\nBut some folks are genuine narcissists/sociopaths and get **so fricking good** at putting on this \"I'm sorry, I confess but I'm a victim too\" story that they can convince almost anyone.\n\nUntil you see person after person after person who can turn this performance on and off like a light switch. TBH, I don't think some of them even realize they're doing it.", "Even if that isn't all bullshit, it doesn't matter.\n\nLots of people have medical debt and don't resort to stealing.", "I suppose that makes sense. What a little jerk for not mowing the lawn though.", "I thought the same thing, but I guess he felt bad for the guy's family. He's a pretty popular YouTuber so not like he needs the money himself, as he said it was the principle of the thing.", "“shitbird” 😂 Valchek would be proud", "The wife had no idea. You can tell she was sorry for her husbands actions", "Betcha he would have if the thief weren't a white dude.", "That's what I thought at first, but that's because that's how we would have felt in that situation. But someone with a conscience over it doesn't just black out cameras and steal like this in the first place - not for need, but just to take. He's wired differently, and probably saw the 1400 being given back and just thought \"Thank god I don't have to pay.\" The biggest punishment was probably his face on this guy's Youtube channel. These kinds of people still have pride, and the embarrassment of being exposed as a thief to his family and community will bother him more than the guilt.", "Well he’s basically just admitting to driving fucked up which is even worse", "Look guys now he's admitting he's wrong about Bernie. Flip flop.", "His behaviour is absolutely indicative of a person who does shady things all the time if he thinks he won't get caught.", "I’m with you as I had my film cameras and switch stolen. What he’s getting at is citizens don’t file criminal charges. The police department is who does that, it doesn’t matter what the victim wants, the police I. This situation, don’t want to charge the guy, but they can’t just not do anything cause it’ll look terrible. So they say they just do whatever the victim wants. It feels nice and feels like the police are working with the citizens but this is one of the main channels for bias to occur", "\"Its safe to drive intoxicated if the roads aren't too busy\"\n\nDo you have any idea how stupid you sound? Sorry your dad got embarrassed in this video but you trying to defend him is not good look.", "Didn’t he admit to drive drunk and high on pills...", ">Well that's the purpose of it, too bad the US has a culture that focuses on punishment rather than rehabilitation. \n\nIsn't that what you're promoting right now? By calling for this man to be imprisoned, while fully knowing that American prisons often don't rehabilitate?", "especially after admitting in front of cops that he had a couple of beers and took some pain pills before he did it, straight up admitted he was DUI. Cops should have arrested him on the spot for that since WD didn't press charges for his stuff.", "Well, yuhsee, I was high on pills and drunk off my ass. So I decided to drive around!", "Case is probably abs so acetone will be a bad idea.", "I appreciate that you like it. Someone's got to, haha. I'm jealous of your cheap nice house for sure. To each their own and all that.", "This is absolute bullshit and you know it.", "And live in a town full of people that steal from each other for no reason? Sounds like a dream...", "But they have great customer service. So they've got that going for them. Which is nice.", "Did he just admit to the deputy that he drove while drunk and on pills? I know the theft charge won't stick because the victim didn't want to press charges but can they not get him for that?", "I dunno, I'm inferring a lot but he looked deeply embarrassed when the 1400 was handed back.\n\nI think he would have been happy if his wife wasn't there but I think it all happening in front of his wife is part of the humiliation", "I've had two thefts occur in broad daylight. Both were a white van (likely the same van) that drove by in the middle of the day and got into our garage. My dad would often leave the door open and forget to close it so this van would pull up and two guys would run in grab what the could out of his garage and drove off. \n\nNeighbors thought the guys in the van were contracted workers and didn't suspect it as a theft until my dad caught them a third time and chased them out of his garage causing a massive fight. I'd argue the best time is in the day. You're way less suspicious.", "Guy literally says his own age in the video moron", "Cuz the guy didn't press charges... He very well could have.", "I came away from this feeling like this man learned his lesson and the YouTube kid taught the rest of us an amazing lesson about forgiveness and compassion. I can’t imagine a better ending and I truly believe the thief will change his ways and become a better person as well.\n\nPeople just wanna be mad these days I guess", "Prison is an absurd punishment for this, particularly in the U.S. That said, the man is pretty despicable, and some hard probation/house-arrest plus some community service while being forced to wear a thief shirt or something would make sense.", "\"I was on opiates and then I drank beer... Then I drove, multiple times...\"\n\nDude consistently makes bad decisions.", "Statistics for the most part back them up. Texas is quite a bit higher than New York on the list of larceny per capita. It seems like most of the worst states are low population density", "I'm guessing he has a lot of debt and everything is a loaner. He prolly steals a lot too", "As is his right and prerogative.", "Just seems so silly to me. Like if someone steals some stuff from me, they get caught and I get all my stuff back, what is MY incentive to still want the guy charged? I got all my shit back. Its up to the justice system to punish them, no?", "Know what happens when I'm drunk? I play guitar badly.", "Expressing that they wouldn’t leave it out if they didn’t want it stolen sets this as normal to him.", "I wish he did press charges. This obviously wasn’t the guys first time stealing. How many victims didn’t have the time and resources to track him down?", "and I'm trying to figure out where I said anything regarding me having an issue with where anyone takes up residence. Acknowledging the fact that a place has objectively bad weather, has nothing to do with whether or not I care if people live there. I don't care where anyone lives, so feel free to point out where I said anything of the sort.\n\nI know Somalia is an extremely dangerous place to live in, or travel to. That doesn't mean I care about, or am riled up by people that choose to live there. Now if you tried to tell me no, Somalia is a great and wonderful place, then you'd have a comparable situation for a point of contention.", "Very rural area, the cops have probably dealt with him before and will do so again. The guy didn't want to press charges, they didn't want to deal with the paperwork.", "who doesnt love whistlindiesel", "He’s probably stolen from his work/companies all his life to get there", "Super common in urban and suburban areas actually. It’s a career for many in these areas.", "It’s gross how nice he was to this guy . He needed a broken jaw not a pass", "Yeah lived in the country my whole life. Never heard of anyone having anything stolen. Not sure what part of Texas they moved to but it must be that area.", "I *love* seeing Germans on reddit wagging their fingers at other countries.\n\nThis one is particularly ironic talking about lack of respect for your neighbors.", "I get your point and it's good but it made me feel worse somehow.", ">“revenge is a dish best served cold,”\n\nYou know, this is the first time I've realized I actually have no idea what that phrase is supposed to mean.", "Epic. \n\"I don't *need* my stuff back, I just *wanted* my stuff back.\"", "You've described the prevalent problem 100%; Boomer assholes who believe everything belongs to them and that they're owed what someone else has.\n\nThis dusty gump is more than a little jealous about another person's positive life choices.", "Even after stealing and destroying his property, the you-tuber shook the criminals hand and gave back the 1400.00 cash. He knows that taking the 1400.00 would almost make this thief’s actions acceptable. Bravo to this guy for catching this guy and letting his wife know. Let this be a lesson that those stealing can often be those nearest to you.", "Things aren’t always what they seem", "The only time that ol' man will wear a mask out in public. /s", "Right like ok if you are willing to say I really fucked up im so sorry it’s one thing but to double down. Now I’m just going to let you sink in your crime.", "> i think he is doing fine and doesn't need to steal.\n\nHe explicitly says, as he gestures around him, that he didn't need the money, he was just being stupid. Right around towards the end after he's caught.\n\nI believe him when he says he got hopped up on pills and booze and thought it'd be fun. It's obviously not just the drugs and alcohol influencing him, he wanted to do it and didn't care about who he was stealing from, but I do imagine under normal circumstances he would have been too anxious/nervous to actually try.\n\nHe denied it repeatedly instead of coming clean, which would have saved him possibly from even having to pay damages for the cameras if the video's creator had been feeling generous, so I don't really feel sorry for him. He did a shitty thing and tried to get away with it.", "Now \"he feeds my wife\" is another blow of humiliating by itself.", "God dammit that had to be so validating.", "The guy had rapid fire excuses.\n\n\"Pills!\"\n\n\"Alcohol!\"\n\n\"It said for sale!\"\n\n\"Must be abandoned!\" (Dumbest shrug)\n\n\"My friend said there are cameras\"\n\nThen his brain jumps through the dumbest logic loop and tries to play himself out to be a fan so everything he just said seems even more ridiculous and premeditated.\n\nThen there is that dumb line about how he didn't tell his friend about looting the property. Oh no! No his friend just happen to be warning people about fucking cameras. Yeah right.", "He can also clean the cameras with paint thinner. They weren't ruined he was making a point that the guy thought out his actions.", "Did you watch the video? If so, you didn't think that maybe that guy owned a few things he could sell before he might need to resort to stealing someone else' shit to sell?", "Yeah he should be kissing his feet, that’s five years if he went before the right judge.", "Fuck ads.", "They are saying that YouTuber guy really impressed LE when he gave the money back. YouTuber essentially paid $1400 out of pocket to earn legendary status with the cops. \n\nIt also makes YouTuber look like a good person, which makes thief look even worse in comparison (not only did he steal, but he stole from a *standup guy*). Dude will forever be \"boomer who stole from a standup guy\", which is much better punishment than paying out $1400. In small towns, you are nothing more than your reputation.", "Yeah, thats true. You only really need to clean off the sensor and lens though. I wouldn't give much worry to cleaning the whole case off.", "I’ve been drunk and on pills and ACCIDENTALLY stole peoples shit, but never on purpose or premeditated", "NIMBYs are worse though.", "> EVERYONE in that town would've known. \n\nThey still will. \n\nI live in rural Ohio and even if someone doesn't get arrested everyone knows in a matter of a week or so.", "White privilege at its finest", "I’ve always taken it to mean that revenge is the most satisfying when you’ve had time to sit with your desire for it and put a lot of thought into how to get back at whoever wronged you. The cold here as opposed to your emotions running hot in the aftermath of whatever it was that made you want revenge in the first place.", "Read between the lines.", "They’re all rednecks", "This is true injustice. He wasn’t arrested even though he acted with pure malice and it was grand larceny. He literally spray painted the cameras…..", "Steals from him and get a cash reward?! Crime does pay, I get the premise of the punishment but good lord you just gave him more of a reason to get better at robbing you knowing he'll get a cash reward for feeding up...", "He still had to pay for the cameras he damaged and he gained nothing from this but a net loss of cash and a bad reputation.\n\nBut I agree, he probably should have been charged.", "I’m sorry but “it doesn’t affect you” is a terrible argument. These things are crimes for societies sake. It’s a communal concept. \n\nThis guy wasn’t stealing to feed his family. Doesn’t even seem like he was stealing for money. He was stealing compound bows and tailgates. He was stealing for FUN. And driving fucked up while doing it. It affects everyone because we all participate in society and this guy is just out and about being a dickhead then crying when he gets caught.", "Anyone here wish he went into detail on the unconventional ways of finding people?", "You already do, everyone does. This guy just took it farther than most people would", "I think the YouTuber didn’t want to press charges so that he could make this video and show how big of a POS this guy is. Posting this video with as many subscribers he has is almost punishment enough. I think the YouTuber is a pretty straight shooter so I’m sure pressing charges and then posting the video would have been kinda like double punishment, and I don’t think that’s what he wanted.", "It could just be a compulsion like a clepto. Who is to say?", "You’re in for a treat lmao", "If you finance your have to have full coverage insurance", "I'm a zoomer and I understand irony. I know others do too. But thanks for proving my point.", "Check again.", "Yeah that woman lives quite comfortably, guaranteed.", "I cannot believe he reveals that he qatches his channel and knows who he is!! What a POS. But his look at the end.. he KNOWS he is a POS. And now so does his wife.", "Everyone in the video probably", "Says its irrational then provides reasons why its rational...well done.", "My fav is at the end of the video the detectives start doing the heavy lifting, and loading the truck while he lies. \n\nLike he was able to pick it up to steal it, why aren't you making HIM put it back. \n\nPart of me knows the answer...", "I think he's just straight up an opportunist and saw an opportunity.", "Snausages?", "But he specifically said his excuses weren’t excuses. Fucking idiot.", "What state was this?", "And like, doesn't that mean he just admitted to driving while impaired right in front of the cops?", "anyone know where in TN this is? edit; its indiana", "He provides entertainment that people enjoy he hasn't stolen from anyone...get over yourself. You have no evidence that any of what you say applies to him you just made it all up. I get it you are a failure in life but but hating on the success of others isn't going to fix it for you.", "Wasn't he wearing a 13 colonies flag on his back? Seems like a good indicator of hard right republican\n\nEdit: had the wrong flag", "He even admits he watches whistlindiesel. He knew exactly what he was doing.", "Maybe not like career criminals but yes, people do wild shit on drugs and alcohol at any age.", "Need a TLDW", "Right? So he was driving under the influence, too!", "Yup, total Cool", "?", "No shit.\n\nWho cares if LE like you *when you move away*?", "Grew up partially out in bumfuck nowhere in west Texas. My dad and his dad made knives in a shitty little shack out on their combined property so there was a lot of expensive equipment inside and that thing was never not locked, including a lock inside for while they were working.\n\nThey knew how the local hicks were because they were hicks themselves. Can't recall anything ever happening, but they were also the type to greet you on their property with a shotgun if they weren't expecting company. So there's that.", "Sure, but we’re not the ones pretending it doesn’t happen elsewhere, you simpleton.\n\nAlso, that type of crime is often more common outside major metropolitan areas, but a redneck and/or redneck lover like you wouldn’t know that I assume.", "Same. My only hope now is that his newfound internet publicity results in some kind of social punishment.", "You're naive. That man is quite old. This is almost assuredly not the first time he's stolen. He's not a young kid, making a mistake. This is who he is as a person. \n\nEven when caught he took no responsibility and made up excuses to justify his actions.", "Dude admitted to driving under the influence of alcohol and pills and they still let him walk.", "Nothing at all", "This guy is a lot more reasonable about things than I'd be. I'd be asking the guy why the fuck he's stealing from people when he's got a nice property and seems to be doing well for himself, I mean shit, he's even wearing a North Face jacket during his apology. The guy clearly isn't a destitute junkie looking for shit to sell.", "You get upset over blonde jokes and short jokes too? Is there anything you do laugh at?", "Being on this side or that side is really tearing this country apart so make sure you bring it up in every single situation, even the ones that have nothing to do with politics. You are a part of the problem. This guy is a thief through and through. Who cares how he votes?!", "I'm just saying I can see why they would not arrest him for that. It wasn't admitting something particularly dangerous and they don't really have any proof.", "The victim doesn’t get to decide. The cops might ask them what they want, but it’s always up to the state whether to charge someone. They can and do charge people when the victim asks them not to.", "Fuck any excuse to steal, even addiction. Just sell your shit off, downsize, go on food stamps, get treatment if needed,, and rebuild from there. I did that. Hard as shit especially when you're putting yourself through school to dig yourself out of a hole. But no reason to shit on others. Everyone below top 1 percent lives \"difficult money always short\" lives.", "*…nothing at all… nothing at all…*", "Redneck calls rednecks on drug addicted redneck for stealing his redneck supplies", "This was one of the greatest things I've watched", "Also wasting the police’s time which, sure I know fuck the police and all, but they are already lazy AF when it comes to dealing with theft and property crime without a bunch of people wasting their whole afternoon just to say “I don’t want to press charges.”", "Oh? I see you support fascists. Awesome choice.", "For sure, but cameras change that.", "\"You didn't work for this, I'm going to steal it\" is peak self-awareness.", "I think you’re an idiot and should spend less time crafting some virtuous online identity.\n\nYou write like you have a fedora hanging out of your mouth. \n\nSpend some more time on yourself instead of jerking off to anime - your Reddit virtue signaling isn’t going to help with living paycheck to paycheck and being wholly incompetent and unsuccessful", "I wouldn’t want to live next to a YouTuber but that doesn’t justify stealing from them", "Well all you have to do is be like this guy and….checks notes…drive ATVs for fun for a living.", "Really goes to explain a lot about the politics of folks who live out there.", "have to call the cops sometimes for work related stuff, sometimes i am cool with it not pressing charges (and the cops are maybe too cool with it too since it save them work basically... well that's what i think. also it doesn't add more clog to the clogged justice system with one more small case. ) but it's useful to do it once in a while to send a message, usually it works and i can be years without the stress of getting robbed. it all depends, if you deal with a repentant idiot i can give them a second chance... but if i deal with a seasoned criminal like in OP's vid or they do it again i do press charges. if i get the stuff back sometimes i call the cops to tell them i am not pressing charges but their ass is banned. recently someone stole 500$from us and i wonder what would end up being the quickest way to get our money back ; will she pay in a month like she said or we should have just gone straight to a collection agency. sometimes its hard to tell. if we press charges and go through the whole legal process maybe we will only see our money a year from now instead of a month from now... only time will tell if we are right (we were wrong to change her a bad check tho...)", "I mean if I'm a lender, someone with more assets is definitely more trustworthy than someone with less. Maybe \"trustworthy\" isn't the word. Having fewer assets doesn't mean you're dishonest, but statistically it means you're less likely to pay back your debt.\n\nTo be 100% clear, I'm in no way saying money lending is a noble industry, it's not. But you can't get mad at them for denying loans to low income people with bad credit, and then get mad at them for approving loans to the same low income/bad credit borrowers at high interest to cover the risk and doing whatever is in their power when the borrowers eventually are unable or unwilling to pay back the loan.\n\nAre they predatory? Some certainly are. But if you walk away from the loan office all happy at the lump sum in your pocket with no thoughts as to how you're going to pay it back or what will happen if you don't, that's your fault.", "The reverse sponsorship is also great.", "I don’t think you make friends with the cops by wasting their whole afternoon just to not press charges.", "Lol he DEFINITELY gave it bag for \"clout.\" Dude casually raised the reward for information on a stolen tractor from 250k to 300k at the end of the video. He clearly doesn't need 1400 bones.", "“No excuses.” Gives 17 excuses", "pulls officer over, “ok so you just told me you were drunk, high in pills, and driving an unregistered vehicle on a public road all at the same time, is that correct?”", "My parents never thought that was a good investment lol.", "Can cops arrest you for a DUI/OWI after the fact? A family member drove drunk to an ex-girlfriend’s house and actually started a full blown argument, but because he/his keys weren’t in the car when the cops arrived, they said they couldn’t arrest him just on suspicion. This was also after the gf and multiple neighbors who witnessed it gave statements.Still drives me nuts to this day.", "Yeah nobody on here considering how much it would suck to have whistlin diesel move into your quiet neighborhood. Not that it justifies the neighbors actions but I'm sure there was displeasure going both ways before the thefts.", "I don’t think we were talking about jokes?\n\nBut there is a difference between affectionate teasing and mean spirited jokes.", "I’m betting this person literally cannot elaborate on anything", "You are just a confused little sheep.", "That was interesting af", "Step-crate, i am your crate!!", "The fear doesn’t necessarily “come from society,” rather one’s expectation of judgement and ridicule. While those expectations may be grounded in reality, shame can also persist when the expectation of judgment and ridicule is unrealistic.\n\nWhat I mean to say is that shame is predicated on the expectation, and fear of, judgement/ridicule, not necessarily the actual presence of judgement/ridicule.", "Well there's a very specific reason for that. Victims of domestic violence frequently recant their statements and decline to press charges. Most states have made these mandatory arrests.\n\nConversely when it comes to property crimes, most prosecutors require at minimum a signed statement from the victim. Officers know better than to try to bring a case before their DAs office with a non cooperative victim.", "Side note: how much money does this YouTuber make?!?! 300k reward for a 25k John deer? God damn!!!", "I have a question for you, if you would be nice enough to help me out; \n- ***How did you first intially recognize or realize that you were a Narcissist (more specifically, a VN), and most importantly, how were you able to admit it to yourself?***\n\nI ask bc my partner has all the signs of being a VN and I've just now realized it. It's the answer to every question I've had- BUT, he will not go to therapy for our relationship or for himself more importantly, and won't admit that he's part of the ongoing, 6-year manifested problem. I'm in therapy myself but it's not like I can just go up to him and tell him that he's a VN and that therapy can help...y'know? I'm too afraid of him to do that. \n*Your answers would help tremendously- thank you*", "Is it the same for minors? As much as it makes sense to do it that way, I feel a kid (11-12 the oldest) would be pressured into doing something stupid or not know their actions had consequences. It would suck if the charge stuck around for a while and the kid is screwed because he trespassed on a dare once and now can’t get a job. \n\nI’m using a victimless crime but I hope the point I’m making can be understood.", "Yeah. He also posted it himself.....fucking noob", "An out of town jurisdiction with little going on day-to-day was quick to respond? Must be privilege. The dude has property way out of any city or large town. Small town cops and county sheriffs just drive around waiting for literally anything to happen and it’s not a surprise this got a quick response.\n\nThis is probably the most interesting case since Jimbo OD’d down by the creek last month.", "Jokes on you! I fucking HATE myself", "White privilege is committing grand larceny on camera and crying about your beer problems, then suffering no consequences. \n\nI wish this man got twenty years.", "If you really watched the video in the OP and genuinely feel like calling him a redneck is too mean then you might be the biggest pussy on this website. Try not to get too upset over that one", ">Like if someone steals some stuff from me, they get caught and I get all my stuff back, what is MY incentive to still want the guy charged\n\nGenerally a sense of justice. It may be up to the justice system to punish them, but it's a lot harder to prove a case without a cooperating victim.", "I think the boomer was honest, he did act on impulse. And I think his motive was envy. He knows the youtuber from youtube, he said he knew them \"doing cool stuff\". And before that, the first thing he said was that he went stealing after some beers, \"I was feeling young and wild, a 60yo man!\"", ">how else did you think dog food gets sold at <$50 for a 50lb bag when the price for human food is 3-5x higher \n\nWhat the fuck are you talking about? You can buy 50lbs of rice for $30. Human food is more expensive because we pay for the luxury of eating something other than grains 24/7. \n\nThat being said, I looked into it and the FDA website openly admits that it's illegal but that it doesn't enforce the law when it comes to pet food. Government by business lobbying is a wonderful thing.", "“I took two pain pills…” and then accidentally took my plates off and put a mask on and entered your property and took things.", "I'm going to guess their warrant was strictly to look for this one guy's property. But it'd be nice if it provided for the sheriff to nose around a bit to see if he had anything else that was recently reported missing.", "In the video the officer asks WhistlinDiesel if he wants his stuff back or to press charges. Essentially if he had pressed charges his stuff would've just went into evidence, no? At the end of the day he chose to be a nice guy about it and hopefully this man never forgets that. Kill em with kindness", "Yup. Be a good time to put that on realtor.com and find yourself somewhere far away.", "Not to mention the admitted taking pills and and alcohol before joy riding around. Although that may be normal in that area for all I know.", "Pretty sure that's just a lie from the thief.", "Yeah you are cool and I am a dick.", "Ha! My first thought.", "At least in my state, the difference for the majority of customer's between liability only and full coverage is minimal.", "What’s up with white people doing that ? Is it a result\nof white guilt? Is it people trying to be woke and get pats on the back or what?", "The way the detectives all looked at the kid, too, after he let the guy off the hook. The public shame of this will be punishment for the old bloke, as I watch it go more and more viral.", "Jealousy 100000%", "I wonder what else he does for money. I don’t think it all comes from Videos", "\"I just wanted to feel like a wild young kid again.\"\n\nLike, Jesus. What the fuck did you do when you were a kid?", "You seem more upset than I am. You might remember I said the title bothers me “a bit.”", "that is typically the case here too. Prosecutors represent the state, not the victim. if a crime has been committed, it's up to the prosecutors to determine if there is enough evidence to convict the person at trial. pressing charges basically is the victim's way of saying \"I'll cooperate with the trial\" and not pressing charges is saying \"I'm not interested in testifying or cooperating with an investigation or trial.\" The prosecutor will generally look at that as if the victim doesn't care enough to go to court, why should anyone else? and they'll drop the case. \n\nexcept with something like this where there's a mountain of evidence including a recorded confession...the prosecutor should really charge him with at least trespassing, vandalism, and theft/larceny. Without a cooperating victim, you're not going to get fair market values of the goods stolen or clear evidence that anything was actually broken into for burglary charges, but it looks like 3 misdemeanors would be pretty cut and dry. I would hope that the prosecutor brings felony burglary and grand larceny and accepts a plea down to 2 or 3 of the lower charges.", "That's not very mature of you.", "He was clearly humiliated", "You see it every day in grocery stores. Lots of judgement on people buying 'people food' with SNAP or WIC.\n\nDon't you know if you're on welfare you only deserve gruel?", "I know, right?! I’m so miffed he’s making excuses for himself by saying he took a couple of pain pills and “the stuff was right there and I thought it was going to get thrown away”. So much bullshit! If he believes that were a legit reason to steal stuff then I hope he gives a lot of moral leniency to others that handle their drugs like him… I highly doubt it. I don’t know about you but I’ve never taken a couple of pain pills with a beer and gone looking for thousands of dollars on other peoples private property to steal. That’s just me.", "Yeah, there's no way I'm showing any mercy to people who stole my shit. This dude being all magnanimous, not pressing charges and giving back money he deserves. I mean, shit.", "I... uh... there's no excuse?", "I'm with this guy, I don't know who he is... cams, trip wire, land mines, etc. Just kidding, but I don't think I would be so kind as he was.", "I think everyone involved felt bad for the wife. She had no idea what was going on and had no part of it. I’m sure the shame was very visible on her face. Pressed charges would have changed her life as well", "Yeah the $1500 was for the spray paint on the 2 game cameras. A little elbow grease and you can get the paint off the lenses, no problem.\n\nBy not taking the money, he really shows how much better of a person he is than that guy.", "The Max Monster guy is a better human being than I am but I strive to be more like him.\n\nThat said, the boomer thief's apology was horrifically pathetic. He's a common thief who wasn't really sorry he was just sorry he got caught. I also found it interesting that the LEO's had no issues with the man walking into the garage by himself. There's a saying that goes, \"desperate times call for desperate measures.\" Desperate people do desperate things. The thief could have very easily been so embarrassed that he could have escalated the whole scenario with violence. He was also a pill head. Never trust a pill head.\n\nLastly, had the thief been a person of color. Boy oh boy.", "Being extremely harsh with this old guy is how I would judge myself. I’m not a thief and wouldn’t do shit like this. If i was, I would know that me just giving stuff back isn’t a penalty for committing a serious crime. \nI do not care what the reason is, stealing personal items from someone’s private property is not acceptable in any circumstance. I will never understand why people romanticize criminals that way. You cannot tell me this retirement age man with a huge home and property has good reason for theft.", "I missed the racist bits of the video.", "That’s assuming people like this give a fuck or can experience guilt. Which I doubt", "My redneck relatives always had cash on hand for bail.", "As a former and rehabilitated thief I agree. You can’t tolerate it. Criminals thrive on the indulgence\nOf societies understanding.", "He'll do it again. I would've pressed charges.", "You know what, you’re so right. It’s a grown ass man", "Not the first time this pos steal from some", "ugh the minecraft videos. thats all my kids want to do as well.", "Tennessee", "Same, it’s too difficult to watch him bullshit in front of the guy’s face", "Wow. I like that he was proactive but also that the cops showed up and did their thing. The fact that this guy is getting away with it with no charges is crazy. Basically the dude had an option to get his stuff right now or prosecute and maybe probably get his stuff back later.", "Can’t argue with the black neighbours version of this story. But he didn’t get completely let off, this guy got the ultimate shaming in front of his wife and millions of other people, guaranteed a bunch of them watching are his friends and family who now think less of him. Not only that, but by not even being “allowed” to pay for the damages, he’ll perpetually feel indebted to this guy who he stole from but who showed him kindness nonetheless. This guy is gonna feel like shit for a long time", "Someone stole his helmet and he offered a crazy reward for it.", "Yeah for people like this, usually once the repercussions are gone so is any remorse", "Moved to a small town. And you got that right. Many children show up and break the stigma of their families names. I grew up in a city, you could disappear there. Here its completely different. Cops are dicks in the city. Cops are not to be fucked with out here but dont like bullshit and I like that.", "My family had several kids on competitive teams, and my brother once had to travel with the family of a rich kid because my parents had to work. He was mortified when the kid and his parents, who owned a huge used car dealership, took all the towels, glasses, pillows, literally anything not nailed down from the hotel room. They left the Gideon bible though, of course", "If he's anything like my boomer dad he doesn't trust the banks.", "Someone a bit bothered wouldn't keep going on about it and argue with people over it.", "Go on, bump his channel! What is it?", "My comment was more addressing the \"sudden change\" you were referencing and I'm not justifying stealing. \n\nIt is also worth noting that the are 2 small houses on that lot and 4 people live there. I have no idea what he actually owns, if the entirety of the left garage is his or if he just stores some stuff in there, what is his neighbors, if he is renting or managing, etc. Or that he may very well being trying to sell his stuff as well as the stolen items.", "What does LE stand for?", "Not saying that I don't agree with you. Saying that it just seems as though all the dude in the video was after was the shock factor. He's a streamer, and to use this as content is kind of weird in itself.", "Doesn't matter about geographic location. Vote in EVERY election for everything if you're capable of it. If everyone actually did there would be a way bigger difference how things are in this country. I don't think anyone could deny lack of turnout isn't helping the situation. \n\n(And I don't care what affiliation you may be, vote anyways and be an informed voter at that, please)", "People who have long been his friends will be trying to find any fault in the way the kid acted, but will realize that they would have either done the same thing or shot the thief.", "It’s impressive and kind and very sweet and also foolish.", "I made one comment about it. Otherwise I’ve just been responding to your questions.", "I don't know anyone who believes there's no crime in rural areas. Especially considering it's fairly well known that some rural areas' income levels are on par with inner city areas. I was was just calling you out on your stupid take trying to concoct some political/poorly-veiled racist point.", "I'm pretty sure he says he doesn't need the money a couple times.", "Thank goodness there were cameras, and there were no people of color jogging by within 6 weeks before or after the theft…\n\nI’m glad he filmed the perp!\n\nPeople need to see their programming defied!", "A ***FUCK LOAD*** of people don't seem to understand that the courts can and ***will*** force you to testify as a material witness. \n\nYou can't just get a subpoena to testify and be like \"no fuck that\" without a very good and limited reason. Besides self incrimination there are limited acceptable excuses like spousal privilege, being out of the country (even then it's kind of iffy), very sick, and like a few others tops.\n\nIf you witness Jim Bob murder someone unless you're married to him, or you're part of the murder and it would blow back on you, the courts can hold you in contempt if you refuse to testify to what you saw. \n\nThey don't fuck around with that shit. They're too busy to cater to people's whims. If they know you have evidence they'll compell you to turn it over and if you don't they'll throw you in a cell till you do. \n\nNow obviously some cases are more extreme than others. I doubt (but that's not saying they won't) they'd throw you in jail if you refuse to testify against your brother for petty theft of a candy bar from Wal-Mart.\n\nBut they can if they feel like it. Which a lot of people don't realize. \n\nThe 5th only protects you from ***self*** incrimination. Other than that the courts will get what they want from you eventually. Unless you're married to the defendant or not around for them to force you to do so.", "Sucks this dude got his stuff stolen; but why the hell are you leaving your gates wide open for anyone just to come in?", "You should see the video where he takes a Diesel truck lifted 10ft and turns it into a boat and drives into the Gulf of Mexico.", "He had a bunch of money in investments he mentions in an older video.", "There is nothing visible in the video that would make me think \"oh shit he really had no other choice but to turn to crime\" and plenty to make me think \"he had other options\". Given that, it seems unlikely that he just 'suddenly' became a shithead.", "Yeah he had more gumption than me. I would have done like another redditor replied with and said jk thanks for the confession I’m pressing charges now . Get help your little day drinking travels are hurting others", "Wow this ends without charges being pressed?\n\nDownvote.", "Grew up in small town. Tons of police presence and your inspection was expired by a day you would get stopped and hear about it but almost any ATV for sale near the road not chained down would get stolen. I wish police would set up sting operations with tracking devices to curb theft since they don't seem to have much else to do.", "With the added comedy of saying this while standing by the same vehicle that still had no plate on it.", "not saying he's NOT a good guy, I don't know him, but it's great optics for his channel", "Shut up", "Did WD almost die from a 50 cal?", "all that aw shucks bullshit that old bitch did was hilarious. Cops are so soft about these assholes. If the perp had been young and black no fucking way would he be given the benefit of the doubt like that.", "What a fucking stand up guy!! Giving them back the money like that!", "Surprised Jerry Springer didn't show up", "30s or 40s? Lol wtf", "Right, what I'm getting at though is that what your expectations of the legal system is supposed to be isn't the reality.\n\n Again I actually agree with you but if our legal system was actually about justice or fairness then things would have played out almost exactly as you had wanted them to. \n\nAs it is the owner had to do everything and if it weren't for the fact that he was outside the thief's residence and told dispatch that nothing definitely would have happened. \n\nI've had to file police reports before and nothing did happen. I don't know how familiar you are with the criminal justice/ legal system but most police work is just filing reports. Without evidence you basically are fucked the burden of proof was completely on the owner. \n\nIf they did arrest the man you still have to process him take him to jail and his arraignment hearing and then if he decides to argue his case have a trial which can take up months to years depending on how many appeals. \n\n$1400 is only $900 more than the $500 limit for petty court cases which courts hate to waste time on so at the end of the day it's still cheaper for the government to give the guy a warning and have him write a check and return the stuff than it is to spend all the man hours and legal fees to charge him. Plus now he's on the departments radar so.if he does steal something else who do you think they're going to check first?", "KEK, He admitted to a DUI in front of cops and investigators 0\\_0", "It shouldn't be though. \"The defendant was found in possession of goods that belonged to <victim>, these had been reported stolen on <x>. The victim admitted to taking them without consent.\"\n\nding ding ding.", "Especially a known YouTuber. I can hear him now, “I’ve worked since I was 12 busting my ass, this little spoiled shit doesn’t deserve any of this.”\n\nClassic boomer mentality.", "That’s so wild. Who would even want that shit? Some towel that a thousand people have worn in? No thanks.", "makes you wonder how much of his stuff is stolen, also people like this get away with it their whole life and start to feel untouchable", "Fucking thief", "Mmmm so you didn’t actually say anything of value, simply regurgitated my statement about crime being everywhere, but then that last part at the end was a doozy! In your confused, little mind, where was the potential for “racism”? Do tell.", "He shot a 50 cal at something metal from just a few feet away. The bullet ricocheted right into his forehead. \n\n https://imgur.com/rHq3sYE.jpg", "I imagine they do, probably hundreds of times a day.", "Yeah but this time round his arse was all over YouTube. So was his house. People will know.", "I wanna charge that asshole for blaming PAIN PILLS for his thievery. Fuck that, own your actions dipshit.", "FYI in the US, it's not up to the victim if he wants to press charges, it's up to the DA. Cop can ask ofc, but DA could still prosecute, especially with this evidence.", "I appreciate your empathy.\n\n—\n\n###This man is a criminal:\n\nHe trespassed.\n\nHe stole. \n\nHe is a thief. \n\nHe lied to police.\n\nHe get very angry upon law enforcement on his property.\n\nHe disappeared to allegedly hide items.\n\nHe assumed a warrant grace period would save him.\n\nIE: Obstruction.\n\nHe only admitted based on further search.\n\nHe focus-distanced, blamed alcohol and drugs. \n\nHe blamed the property owner victim. \n\nHis wife knew [so likely did he] of YT’ers channel-wealth.\n\nHe shamed his wife in their community and online. \n\nHe is a criminal.", "One of the many reasons I will no longer live in a midwest red state anymore. Redneck mf'ers.", "You’re allowed to hate white and old people on Reddit. Duh.", "Haha true that too. Win/win/win for mr diesel", "We didn't see her come straight out of the house and don't know how much time elapsed between edits. Possible they had that much cash on hand or similarly possible she ran to the nearest ATM to take out of savings...? \n\n\nRegardless, giving the money back was definitely a classy move and you could see the shock and bemusement on the detectives faces.", "I assume that the people who went to school and have careers in the field have a better understanding of the ins and outs required in a court of law than laypeople on Reddit.\n\nDAs like to have high conviction rates, if the victim isn't willing to testify and the likelihood of conviction is significantly reduced because of it, they won't bring charges. It's part of why domestic violence is so difficult to prosecute.", "I just wrote this a bit farther up in the post somewhere. https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmrph1/redneck_boomer_tries_to_steal_from_a_guy_gets/hppdjxw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3\n\nI think the condition (VN) actually ratted itself out to me. When I was at that ball game I wrote about I realized that I wanted to be having fun too, and I especially didn’t want anyone there to figure out that I was only there out of obligation. In my mind at the time if that would have happened the other parents may have thought I was a bad parent or shitty person and I, as a narcissist, just couldn’t have that. \n\nSo if I’m completely honest it started with me trying to fix myself to just not look like a bad parent at face value to a bunch of strangers. \n\nYou’re not going to be able to reach your partner if he doesn’t realize he’s kind of fucked up. I have to actively work at maintaining a balance with my partner or I’ll just suck the life out of her. It takes a lot of vigilance and even with me completely dedicated it’s hard. I hate to sound really awful but people like us are really easy to love, we’re just impossible to live with or count on a lot of the time.", "This bastard did it premeditated. I mean he tried to black out the cameras.", "I'm not a thief and I frequently have had $1400 cash? Cash is nice, fuck banks. Gotta use them but not for *everything*", "BOtH sIdEs", "How forgiving does a “good person” have to be? It’s insane to see comments of people saying they wish the thief would see legal repercussions and your reaction is “gosh everyone is so cynical”\nObviously the victim is financially well off, and the footage he got was gold so he’s going to come out the other side of this even better for it. But people are “cynical” about this shit because they get victimized without recourse. \nFeeling guilty about your bad actions is an appropriate punishment if you’re a child and need to learn that lesson. Not if you’re a retirement age man.", "Fuck your pill and shitty kid story. You not only stole this dudes shit you went the extra mile and painted over his security cameras. I’d have pressed charges if this was me.", "The DA can and should file charges anyway. It’s a slam dunk case.", "I have a super hard time believing the wife didn't turn a blind eye to this.", "jesus, they stole the ability to afford a house for most of us except heavily sponsored youtubers, a livable planet from all of us, and so much more. They've crushed even our most modest hopes for the future time and time again but apparently nothing is ever enough for fucking petit rural bourgeois boomers.", "\"There's no excuse... But here's a bunch of excuses!\"", "Very similar to when my motorbike was stolen, I found out where it was and in great detail.\nI call the police to tell them its at 22 Green lane, in the garden, in a shed behind sainsburys bread boxes!\n\"we'll look into it\"\nNothing happened. \nI called them back and said we'll go get it ourselves, they then said someone is on their way to the address, 20min later I get a call saying they have it. \n\nI never got to meet the lad who knicked it as he died when he crashed a stolen car and was left to burn to death by his so called mates.", "That's why people who talk about being \"house poor\" don't really get it from a financial point of view.\n\nReal estate markets go up. In big cities, they really go up.\n\nI cannot walk into a bank and ask for loan for well over $1M @ 2.1% over 30 years for me to invest in Index Funds. That's just not a thing that exists.\n\nI can however walk into a bank and get them to give me that money if it's being put towards a house.\n\nSo while I understand the anxiety of spending a big chunk of your income on your mortgage, in a rising real estate market (hint: it's always rising) it's the only way you can access 25+ years of potential savings TODAY and invest it into something growing.", "People can learn. It's hard and unusual, but definitely possible. \n\nIt's naive as hell to give someone credit for having learned when they're trying to get out of trouble after being caught red handed. Nothing that came out of his mouth was anything more than saying what he needed to say to save himself.\n\nNobody experiences genuine growth over a couple of minutes. The actual growth would need to come from decisions and commitments he makes when he's not under the threat. It's a slow process.", "This guy has made a living decades stealing from the people who work for him. He is a classic MAGA Boomer piece of shit. \n \nI've had seven spinal surgeries and have taken lots of pain pills. I never stole from anybody. EVER. \n \nFuck this guy. He needs to spend some time in jail. This was premeditated grand theft.", "He humiliated the man in front if his wife and bought insurance against further retaliation.", "Yeah, I’m thinking turning down the $1400 really was an amazing move. Regardless of whether he’s got a conscience or not, that guy’s gonna know that he’s the lesser man and it’ll burn him up. And hopefully his wife will give him shit too!", "He's only sorry because he got caught.", "I’m glad he got his stuff back, but he stole my entire lunch break because I could not look away from this train wreck.", "I think you’d have to be the stupidest person ever to steal from rural places, that’s a quick way to get blasted full of buckshot", "He ever think about closing that gate?", "It doesn’t matter anymore. Boomer is anyone the internet considers “old”. The internet is fucking stupid.", "I mean the local Sherriff's deputies appeared to know who the YouTuber was once he told them what he does for a living.", "So many people mad that charges didn't get pressed.\n\n The crime is documented by the sheriff and the search warrant, and he is receiving a significant punishment by getting called out in front of millions of people without the hassle of arresting and using tax dollars to process everything and decide a punishment in court. \n\nFrankly, this was handled pretty damn elegantly whether WDiesel was aware of it or not.", "I also advocate for prison reform, but I'm a realist and this is the system we have right now and we have to work with it. \n\nUnless youre a white boomer I guess, then you can just do whatever without any consequences", "How the hell does the skid of $300,000 to offer just as a reward? Does he make that much off of YouTube? I just don’t fucking get it", "If you agree with me why are you arguing with me? I feel like we’re talking In circles here. So your overall point is “that’s just the way it is”. Can we just end this there then?", "Where you trip up is saying that \"bad weather\" is an objective fact. Believe it or not, different people like different weather, and you can't really put metrics on that. The fact that you keep arguing it really shows a lack on maturity. Even if you could say it was \"objectively true,\" who gives a fuck?", "I guess that sort of makes sense. Here the is no like \"DA conviction rate\". The Crown brings the case and if they lose its not like \"the lawyers\" fault.", "Except it happens all the time, but you don’t hear about it. Sorry that doesn’t fit your narrative.", "yea you knew this dude was tweaked and had done this forever. no 60 yr old just starts pulling this shit", "The old man should be in jail. What a complete scumbag.", "This simply cannot be the first time he’s done something like this. I’m sure the wife knew it was a thing he does. Sure, she was embarrassed, but they are in their sixties and that behavior doesn’t come out of nowhere.", "The only issue I see is WhistlinDiesel is a pretty big name. I don't watch his videos or really have any real interest in anything he does and I still know who he is. People like sticky fingers pawpaw, and I know quite a few people like him, will likely tell his sob story to the neighbors and omit anything that ACTUALLY happened and how the video was doctored for Cody's YouTube page for him to make money. They all likely know who he is, know he is in his early 20s and has a lot of money and will see it as he didn't really need that stuff and if he didn't want it stolen he should have locked it up better. \n\nI would have put charges on him, fuck people like that. Cody is a lot better person than I am.", "Ahh the priceless “you know it” remark. Greatest comeback.", "The fact this is Whistlin Diesel makes it that much better", "What determines whether or not it's a \"do you want to press charges?\" or not. For instance, my wife's friend is beaten by her husband and she never presses charges. He even went so far as to hurt one of his children and still he got off. Like, wtf is wrong with this system? One of these days, that woman is going to end up dead and there isn't anything we can do about it.", "Oh the irony…", "Y'all are dumb thats the Whistlin Diesel douche. Its all staged for the views man.", "Most camera lenses have a coating on them to improve the color/contrast/flares, the paint thinner would get rid of the spray paint but it would probably fuck up the coating too.", "I have a place in rural Finland. I could leave a stack of money outside, tell all my neighbors about it, and leave for a few months - the money would still be there when I come back. Equipment and material gets left on construction sites here all the time, no fences, no security. No one steals it. It feels so weird reading these comments...", "The Hilux video broke my heart, but it was a pretty darn entertaining video.", "THIS SO MUCH THIS. Like im used to the ha ha Jersey drivers jokes and the like. But seriously I go out of my way NOT to drive in Texas. I have seen more accidents on I-35 than in 20 years of commuting on the garden state parkway. People run stop signs like they don’t exist, and will pull across 4 lanes of traffic with cars seconds from hitting them. \n\nOh and forget rain. I get snow. Totally do. You rarely see it and this year was a complete anomaly. But Jesus Christ guys you get rain every couple weeks here and it’s like everyone fucking relearns how to drive in it every fucking time.", "I want to be the person who just forgives and forgets. I’ve never even really been the victim of a serious theft, just a few very very minor things. But I still have no room to accept thieves. I can forgive in certain situations, like the time I worked at a grocery store and saw an old lady slipping cans of cat food into her bag. She’s the one who deserves societies good grace and a helping hand so she never has to be put into that situation. But this old guy who’s probably got a comfy retirement ahead of him does not deserve that same forgiveness. I applaud and respect the victim for being kind hearted enough to look the other way, but that wouldn’t be me. And I wouldn’t feel bad about it for one solitary moment.", "I found this video **so** satisfying. Can completely relate with the main guy in the video--having stuff stolen is the literal worst. Did the same thing to someone who stole from me--but without involving the cops (probably dumb, I know).\n\nHad a tube guitar amp stolen out of a friend's car who was borrowing it. Wasn't extremely valuable -- but tons of sentimental value. Had been mine for almost 20 years, gone on numerous tours, had some people I really respected use it--etc. etc. When my friend called to say it had been ripped off I was devastated. It isn't made any more.\n\nSo I got to work.\n\nOver the next week I *scoured* the local area and internet. My amp wasn't a great seller back when I bought it so they are easy to spot in the wild. Likely the only person owning one in my town. I monitored craiglist, ebay constantly. Hit music shops asking about people trading gear. Pawn shops. I was even willing to pay for my own amp back if I could find it. Pawn shops agreed to call me if they had one show up.\n\nThen after 9 days -- one showed up on eBay. In the same town, couldn't be coincidence. I'd made customization to the electronics and custom logos and in the photos all nail mounting holes and wires seemed to line up 100%. Even the back cover (which I still had) was missing. Certain it was mine. I contacted the seller and bought it immediately. \n\n\nAfter the sale asked if I could come pick it up or if they could drop it off and I'd pay cash on the spot to save transaction feeds. \"Happened to live in the area\" I said, and being a delicate amp didn't want to ship it. Made it sound like a legit situation. Seller said he could drop it off and agreed to cash. Said I'd toss in an extra $20 to cover his gas. \n\n\nSo we arrange to meet at my workplace. Somewhere not my house and neutral. Sure enough, he shows up with my amp. I called my buddy and said I'd found it. He couldn't believe it and agreed to come to the office to for both moral support and just an extra set of arms in case things didn't work out. \n\n\nGuy shows up -- and luckily much smaller than me (I'm 6'4\"). Greet him politely and look it over for a few minutes -- and it's my amp, no doubts. I confront the guy and tell him I'd tracked this down, and it was mine. Said I could prove it by saying my custom logo was missing. Telling him how it made a weird ring noise when first powered on. Models of the tubes before I even pulled them. \n\n Instantly the guy knew he was fucked and started apologizing, making excuses. Selling it for a friend, blah blah. Said all was forgiven--I was just happy to have it back. We didn't have to involve the cops But wanted my custom logo back. Guy left, and came back 30 minutes later with it. \n\n\nI felt like the most powerful man on earth that day.", "Also greatly lowers the risk of retaliation from the thief in the future. Older dude, and if he's a first time offender will likely get a wrist slap from the system.", "prison abolition except for boomers and quisling gen-xers stealing from millennials and zoomers", "This was so good. And sad lol", "Yup that's how it used to be where I live too before this current housing boom. Hell, you used to be able to rent a thee bed two bath house on large mountain property for like 500 a month. Get a 5 bed 2 and a half bath house for like 130-150k.", "Or he will simply be happy he got away with his scummy actions without charges and consider it a win", "So glad to be a gen x and have no identifying stereotypes other than being invisible online and fond memories of nirvana.", "He knew the victim still has the power to press charges. He was being intentionally manipulative and deceitful as a final Hail Mary to avoid court, fines, and jail.", "Heat of the Moment sung by Cartman is his theme song. \n\n\nIt was the heaaaatttttt of the moment......", "Yeah, I think I’d sooner someone stole my stuff and sold it to support a drug habit. At least I could understand why. Maybe even sympathize because they took it in desperation. Stealing from your neighbours when you have so much already? That’s inexcusable.", "meh, that property probably isn't worth what you think it is", "If the majority of people are rednecks it sure as sugar is", "Title should read \"Redneck boomer tries to steal from a redneck zoomer...\" since reddit feels those descriptors are totally relevant to the story.. /s", "For once in a long time; I’m proud to be a Hoosier", "Frankly, that system makes far more sense to me. Having the DA be a political position has wreaked havoc on our legal system.", "Multiple trips loading up multiple vehicles, including bringing his dog along, painting over the security cameras, and wearing a medical mask that he doesn't even seem to wear around actual people... an ***impulse?***", "\"I'm not going to charge you, I'm not taking your money, I just wanna humiliate the shit out of you on youtube\".", "He made them get a warrant for chrissakes. The Hail Mary at the end was simply his final manipulative attempt to avoid going to jail.", "Redneck boomer tries to steal from redneck zoomer.", "Bam Margarine\n\nEdit: well if you correct your typo my joke looks stupid...", "Why did he let him get away with it? He should have been arrested. It just seems like its an acceptable culture wherever he is living (he said before he moved in he heard there were loads of thefts in the area) If you see something you can have it culture. Ive lived in areas like this but they were never in areas as nice as this. Unless someone goes down for it then it will continue. If he thinks he has learned his lesson then he couldnt be more wrong.", "You're calling the YouTuber a racist by saying if the old thief wasn't white the YouTuber would have pressed charges, you're being a lowlife by implying this absolute racist nonsense.", "Probably because the cop mentioned medical bills?\n\nOh wait you post on conspiracy…", "What the fuck do boomers have to do with this? Get over yourself", "Sheesh, could you be more thick?", "Who said we were arguing? Do you consider any disagreement an argument?", "I highly doubt that was his first or second time stealing", "so I did a dui and stole shit.. gets off zero charges", "O yeah I get what you’re saying, I would’ve taken the money and pressed charges too, that dude isn’t missing a meal and has more land than most.", "And cops dont need the victim to press charges. He lied to the police - you really think thats not a crime they can pin?", "Maybe wouldn't let it go because they thought they had to in view of him being dangerous to the public or wanting him to get medical attention that he otherwise wasn't getting? Or was it just \"fuck this guy\"?", "Giving it back was about power. It says “I don’t care about this. I don’t need any of this stuff. I’m doing this because you’re a pathetic piece of shit. Here is some charity.”\n\nI like that he gave him the money even if he’s a POS that doesn’t need it. He took whatever shred of pride he had left.", "Small issue but the guy admitted on film to abusing painkillers and drinking on top of them. That ought to throw a hitch into him buying a gun since he can't truthfully answer the questions on the federal forms. Looks like a rural sort of setting where not being able to purchase a firearm would be a decent kick in the teeth.", "\"This is not me, this is not who I am! If we could all just sit down and have a discussion and put this behind us we would all feel better! Now stop talking about it and move on, I'm loving living rent free in your head! Go cry snowflake millennial, I'm the victim here because of cancel culture!\"", "Eh I’d be willing to give him a pass on requesting the warrant, just based on principle (I think you’re right it’s further evidence of his knowledge of wrongdoing). Everyone has a right to due process of law though and simply exercising it shouldn’t be viewed as an admission of guilt.", "This kid has amazing emotional intelligence and tolerance! Doesn’t blow up on the boomer thief but basically gives the equivalent of the ‘I’m disappointed ‘ line & and denies the payment, empathizes with his wife and gets all his stuff back without pressing charges. This thief will forever feel like a real dip shit. Side note, the kid generally seems like a really good, honest dude.", "Reddit hive mind", "You are not a smart person.", "that, and I have one SUV worth twice what all 3 of those vehicles are worth... and I don't even own a home.", "Sure. He'll get some shit from the people in town and everyone will mostly move on. What actually happened to him was nothing.", "it can be \"really not that bad\" while still being the worst. Nobody is making a case for it being literal hell on earth, although we do have Chicago, and St. Louis, but that's unrelated to the weather.\n\nThe part I like the best is that for everyone saying I'm wrong, or saying, they like the weather, or that it's not that bad, not a single person has actually named a place that has it worse.\n\nThe reason most of the downvotes are silent is because they can't refute it.", "No one. Have a good day. \n\nOh and don’t you go stealing anyones compound bows ya little scamp.", "Everyone is saying this but it aint gonna do shit. People have short attention spans. People in the area will take the piss out of him a bit and mostly move on.", "\"I convinced myself I wasn't doing anything wrong...which perfectly explains why I spray painted the cameras\"", "holy shit that guy was so dumb. Youtuber could turn around and have charges pressed and now there is video of the guy admitting to everything. And it is premeditated because of the camera painting.", "Why the fuck didn’t you press charges.", "That’s sad. I’m in Canada but we moved to a rural area and the schools are excellent. The teachers care about the kids and there’s no overcrowding like in the city. Oh, and we have great internet too!", "100% this is not the first time he stole, just the first time he got caught so easily.", "The old fuck will feel bad for a couple.days, then get mad about it and go drinking with his buddies and they will all mock the stupid millennial who dared to stand up to him. He'll be a hero in his own head and his wife will go along with it because she has no other options.", "YouTube can be that lucrative and it’s basically “fuck you money” to him at this point", "I wonder where SHE thought all that stuff magically appeared from…", "I disagree. This guy now has power over him until the statue of limitations runs out. So his neighbor ought to behave, or those charges get dropped.", "It really can't be changed by voting. Not realistically. Constitutional Amendment is 3/4ths of the states. 1/4 of the states is 4% of the population, which means just over 2% can block an Amendment. The 2% that benefits from the lopsided voting rules.\n\nI'm not saying don't vote. But, fixing the mess isn't going to be solved by voting. All of Europe and Latin America used to do similar land based voting to protect a Conservative Ruling Class. It wasn't simply voted out because it was designed to prevent that.", "He ate up all the excuses and then let the guy get away with his actions. Thats fucking whack", "well, he has to make an appearance for his fanbase, and come off as a gentlemen... while secretly recording this to make money from his channel, which is the only reason he didn't take that cash (I would have). Besides, those cameras were likely given to him in a sponsorship deal or something.", "So how come the guy who stole stuff is a “redneck” but the victim is a “guy?” They both seem like redneck’s to me", "his first mistake was stole stuff from someone who has +3millions of subscribers\n\nHe needs to be jailed, no excuses.", "I don't agree with not prosecuting this man. He took the tag off his car, spray painted the cameras, etc. This was premeditated and god only knows how many other people he's done this to.", "Classic whataboutism", "So satisfying, \nmainly when he returned money, that killed the thief’s heart from inside, he is crying inside. \nOne god action in right time with right person can change the person’s life.", "Git er done, redneck!", "Everyone here forgetting this dude's face is now on a million subscriber channel with a fanbase who apparently is his entire redneck social group. Honestly, I'd rather pay the money and be charged than to have my face permanently etched on this massive video all my friends and family watch", "That's because in the UK (and in Canada) criminal acts are always against her majesty on account of they are always perpetrated against her royal subjects. Ergo, the Crown has an obligation to pursue every case.", ">I also advocate for prison reform, but I'm a realist and this is the system we have right now and we have to work with it. \n\nNo, we don't. That's why police, prosecutors, and judges can use discretion. The solution to too many prisoners (literally the most in the world, even per capita) in a terrible system that doesn't rehabilitate isn't to send more people there solely for retribution. That's piss poor logic. \n\nYou sure don't sound like someone who wants prison reform.\n\n>Unless youre a white boomer I guess, then you can just do whatever without any consequences\n\nAgain, the solution is to send fewer minorities to prison, rather than more whites. I can't believe I actually have to explain this to you.", ">Isn't the idea that narcissists can only feel shame and never guilt? This is only a problem because he was caught otherwise he would never have thought about it again. Shame is from society, guilt is from within. Boomers just happen to have suffered a narcissism epidemic.\n\nNo, that's not the idea. That's something you made up. Shame and guilt are identical. It's impossible to feel shame without a sense of guilt.", "Class act giving him the cash back after he appologised.", "If you’re going to just completely disregard what somebody says then there’s no point in an apology at all. \n\nAll of those things were him explaining his actions, not justifying them. You’ll be a better person if you learn the difference.\n\n“No excuses, but I thought that stuff was abandoned” is very obviously somebody explaining why they stole something while also recognizing that it doesn’t excuse their actions. It ain’t rocket surgery.", "Hey fuck you guy. Dumb bitch. Stupid dumb redneck cunt sucker cock head.", "Hey it’s the guy who had a bullet bounce into his head a while back lol", "That’s a pretty wild assumption.", "Bro, what???? They got a search warrant in 20 minutes???\n\nThis has been the most interesting thing to me from this video. I thought it used to take days or at least hours to get a warrant. I *thought* that the process was the officers had to write it, an attorney had to proof read it, and then they'd have to bring it to a judge to approve it before they could do anything.\n\nMaybe I just don't know how getting a search warrant for something like this works, but 20 minutes????????", "That's usually a solid poker tell. When people get chatty, they're super nervous.", "Yeah but this guys' trucks are old and not worth much. Depending on where this filmed his property is probably cheaper than an apartment in a big city.", "Why not both?", "Pissess me off that he let him go. Isn't the first or the last time for this scumbag.", "He probably thinks liberals are freeloaders lol and cries about law and order.", "You know who does have pictures? like 5 million people, many of which are this dude's neighbors. this isn't going away with charges dropped. this will follow him", "Or couldn’t/ realized the juice was not worth the squeeze. I used to live in San Francisco and the DA has made it clear petty crimes will not be prosecuted.", "Google search of one’s net worth is never correct. There’s no possibly way for anyone to know these things. If people are smart with their coin, they’ll have plenty of investments that others don’t know about.", "Unreal, he’s made 250 videos with that sort of money. Time to become a YouTuber", "law enforcement", "Ive been burglarized a few times and the only time the cops were able to catch the person was when I basically caught my heroin addict next door neighbor red handed like this guy did. Every other time there “wasn’t anything they could do” even if I had tracking software on the items showing where they were", "In Utah the police just shoot you in the head for driving under the influence", "It’s hilarious to see this guy call other people stupid after he blasted his own skull with a 50 cal rifle", "How does being a Boomer have a bearing on your comment? Sounds like agism to me.", "This would sound made up if I didn't already know this guy lmao", "This generally falls on the DA, not the cop. In San Francisco the DA has made it clear petty crimes will not be prosecuted, so arresting and charging someone is a total waste of time.", "Lol boot licker got no actual response so just go with “durr ur a sheep”. I love to see it.", "I used to work at a union job. We made very good money. One of the guys was constantly stealing peoples lunches and eating them. He also broke into lockers and stole flashlights and tools. He didn’t need anything. He just likes to feel superior. He thought that he was entitled to take what he wanted because he worked there longer than many people.", "Ofc its the buckeye who doesn't have reading comprehension", "I wonder if it even matters. Some guy stole my wallet at my niece's birthday party once. He was someone's boyfriend, no one really knew him except the person who brought him. I called the police to report it stolen that day, and then like a week later the girl found out he had taken it and returned it to me. The police followed up and I said I had gotten it back, they asked if I wanted to press charges and I said yes (why not? I don't know this guy, fuck him) and I had to answer some extra questions, but as far as I know nothing ever happened after that. She broke up with him and we've never seen him again at least.", "Oh I get it, you're one of those Redditors who likes to stay mad", "While nothing he said was a good excuse, I do feel like it gave a good picture into the mental hoops some people will jump through in order to feel like what they are doing isn't wrong. \n\nThis guy is not right in the head and was able to convince himself that because it wasn't difficult to steal the stuff, whoever owns it didn't really care if it got stolen. \n\nI do believe that he was self aware after the police searched his house and he had to fess up to the owner of the stolen items. He spoke as if he recognized that the reasons he was giving were not excuses, but simply an explanation of his mindset at the time he stole.\n\nHonestly I found the confession/apology part super interesting from a criminal psychology point of view because a lot of criminals don't explain what they were thinking at the time they committed a crime.", "But chances are they're not going to go to the effort if the victim isn't making as issue of it.", "That's why he shut the door on outbuilding #2. Whose stuff is in there?", "Lol just admitted on camera he was driving while intoxicated.", "Well, the fact they are telling me I did something I didn't do gets a less than warm response. I'll find a way to get by", "The shame it brings is better sometimes like the wife at the end of the day will be thinking a kid has more manners and professionalism than my husband and that’ll be a pretty big burden he’ll have to carry", "Exactly. That part where she said they watch his videos all the time. They knew exactly who that stuff belonged to and probably thought \"this guy is a spoiled man child, he can afford it🤷🏻\"\n\nI also feel like the only reason youtuber dude didn't press charges or take the money was because he thought that would be received better in his videos. Press charges, take the money. Sure, we all make mistakes, but that man is livinf comfortably. It wasnt a \"mistake\" a mistake is spilling some milk or making a wrong turn, this guy chose to steal, damage property then give oyt the weakest lies ever. And he actually thought making the officers/detectives get a warrant was a smart move...\n\nFuck that guy. Punish that dude. At least his face is up for everyone to see (and his home which might not have been a good idea)", "Should have had him arrested. Fuck that guy. Good it’s on the net. Shine a light on that guy.", "The detective’s face when he tried to offer the money back. They were in shock. \n\nAlso, total BS excuse. You’re a shitty person and thought this out, you just didn’t think it out very well.", "OMG was he a BOOMER?!!?! \n\nHow about just a stupid thief? \n\nCringy shit \n\n*not a Boomer", "It's super hard to find good redneck content that isn't some ignorant douchbag. I like that lifestyle and aesthetic but most of those dudes think you gotta fuck your sister and burn crosses to be genuine leather. it's like naw dude, I just like playing in the mud in the woods and making crazy ass project with ropes and pullys", "Its more of an impulse control thing... he admitted he didn't need any of it... but some people can't help themselves... I knew someone who didn't need to but embezzled a ton of money from their work. When they got caught they paid it back cash. Its more about the act of stealing than the items stolen", "I know right? The motherfucker is living the american dream and yet can't stop himself from stealing from his own neighbors.", "The house maybe, it's the acres.\n\nHe probably lucked into it but acreage in rural country have exorbitant taxes nowadays. He's stealing for a reason. He's a pill head, probably overextended himself and ultimately has to steal shit and hawk it on craiglist/Facebook marketplace to survive. \n\nLooks like WhistlinDiesel still lives in my native Indiana. I'm familiar with the town he's in and it looks like houses in that area are selling for $300-$400k when you factor in the larger plots of land. \n\nIndiana is pretty bad about not paying people so... dollars to donuts, pillhead boomer is broke as shit lol", "What? You think he legit worked for and earned that giant estate he owns? This is what corruption feels like. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to support the insurrection.", "Just want to share that [Kalief Browder](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder) spent 3 years in jail, some of which in solitary confinement, without a trail for allegedly stealing a backpack with valuables (less than $1500 worth of items and cash) in it. His family didn’t have the $900 for bail so he sat in jail for 3 years and when released finally he hung himself.m after years of depression and abuse inside the prison system. \n\nThis man had $1400 in cash to pay back his victim, faced no charges or jail time. Yet when people post about how this video shows white privilege all around they get downvoted. Just because you don’t want to admit that there is privilege that comes along with a lack of melanin doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.", "He literally says that he only lived there for a month and had already moved out.\n\nThis completely negates the whole \"well now he has the LE on his side!\" angle.\n\nMad has nothing to do with it. Your main point literally just doesn't apply.", "Desktop version of /u/logfromrenandstimpy's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "This was the most excitement they had all day, who you kidding?\n\nAnd nobody was ultimately hurt barring some cameras, the good guys won, and they now know to watch Mr Stickyfingers a little closer in the future. All around a good day at the office. They get paid all the same.", "Yeah.. He didn't return your stuff. Your apple tag things and the detectives found/got your shit back. He let that old pos off way too gd easy.", "As soon as I heard his voice I stopped. Don't care. Don't want to hear it. What Scum.", "I think that's mostly because it would've stretched everything out a whole hell of a lot longer, and the guy just wanted his shit back. If he had pressed charges it's likely all of that stuff would've been kept as evidence for months", "Wtf are you babbling about?", ">Hate to break it to you, but narcissism has nothing to do with age or generation.\n\nCorrect. Society on the other hand has become increasingly narcissistic due to the influence and misleading nature of social networks online, as well as the inventions of movies and television.", "It pays to be a shitty old white boomer! Fuckin get out of jail free card.", "White privilege stat was maxed, smart guy.", "pewdiepie uploads daily, so he gets more views total tho. but people are more likely to watch and have post notifications turned on for channels that post LESS frequently. keeping up with and watching every video for a channel that uploads daily is a lot, so people are more likely to ignore the uploads.\nat least that's the way I am. one video per week is ideal in my opinion.\na significant number of pewdiepie's subscribers are just duplicate/inactive accounts. his fans were making lots of extra accounts just to increase his sub count.", "I grew up in Newport, so pretty sure we know the exact same type. As soon as I graduated high school I was outta there. Lived in Eugene and later Portland. Now I'm in AZ so different kind of rednecks here but really, not that different. Just more sun damaged skin, really.", "Admitted to drunk and under influence driving l, cops were like this is fine.", "Wonder who the thief voted for lol", "I couldn’t watch anymore after guy excused his actions by saying he took some pain pills", "Let off too easy. Guaranteed, this guy did not learn anything from this experience.", "Don't know where these guys live, but it would certainly ruin your reputation where I am. In these parts, a man's word and repute is pretty damn important. Don't nobody like a liar and a thief. Where are you from?", "100% fair.", "I'm actually shocked he didn't press charges with all the shit he did. A lot more restraint than I think I could muster there.", "No, that was the 13 colonies flag.", "Rough seeing this posted to the same sub a day ago with just under 300 upvotes, and today posted with 21k lol RIP to your internet points, /u/scienceproject2", "Oh fuck manners, as soon as he started talking Id be like \"Thats cool bro, load my stuff into my car and dont talk to me.", "Yeah I especially love that they were putting the tag things all over the place and was just like \"this guy is fuckin stupid... He wont see it\" \n\nI hope husband and wife watch it together and that both of them light up like rudolphs nose with how embarrassed they are. His face is forever on the internet as a weak, lying, thieving, stupid old man. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the couple tries to sue youtuber guy for some bs.", "He definitely tells his buddies that \"that young kid don't work for his money and doesn't deserve this nice stuff\"", "Perp said the fact that he got caught by cameras was weighing heavily on him. His response? Not to return the stuff but to come back and cause property damage. Hes a predator and will find a way to justify his own criminal behavior, whether blaming drugs/alcohol or convincing himself that valuables are \"abandoned\", he will steal again.", "Yeah he had a chance to come clean and he forced them to get a warrant. He was lucky the cops were great about it, in most places they would just say your fucked and drive off. He should of press charges as soon as he wanted to play hard ball.", "This is the USA in 2021. So sad. Even in rural ares people are stealing anything not bolted down.", "We need more people like you!", "Even? Scum suckers have lived out in the sticks as long as they have cities.", "Need more context", "The victim of this crime titled his video: \n\"Catching the guy who stole 20 things from me.\" \n\n\n...but in true Reddit fashion you had to add \"boomer\".", "To be fair, my grandpa will randomly get shit for himself that he wants all the time in retirement. They're comfortably retired, he likes his toys, and seeing him suddenly have 3 new compound bows and a bunch of shop equipment wouldn't be out of the norm at all.\n\nIt looks like this guy is doing well enough to have been able to afford the shit he was stealing in the first place, so if I were the wife why wouldn't I assume my husband just bought it?", "Sure it's nice that he let the guy go without pressing charges, but this youtuber is far from being a good guy. This youtuber also had a huge meetup party last year in June during the height of pandemic. Covid isn't a big deal according to him.", "That's what pisses me off the most. This dude is more well off than 99% of the rest of us, yet that's not enough. He has to take shit that isn't his. This is a bad person.", "Sounds like a jerk with that mentality. Good way to get yourself shot too.", "LMAO!!! Took me 2 secs to get it. Take my humble updoot", "imagine thinking this out in your head and then writing it and actually sending it. lmao", "I'm willing to bet money this thief has the mentality of posting a sign outside their shop \"Property protected by Smith & Wesson\" or the like because is someone tries to steak THEIR shit, they won't hesitate to go for their shotgun...", "Yes, poor people with all that property and multiple garages. Can I please be poor?", "exactly. they look like nice old people, but they're not.", "To be honest $1400 and not getting charges pressed versus publicly shamed in front of millions. I know he wasn't given that choice, but I'm sure a lot people might eat it.", "I’m confused, do you want this old prick to end up like Kalief? Or do you wish someone didn’t press charges against Kalief?", "How old do you retards think boomers are?", "Fair enough! You make a compelling argument, that’s probably where she thought it was coming from.", "I think that's called privilege, in living in a nice enough area lol", "Land of the free - free stuff.", "Basically my train of thought.", "“Im sorry because I was caught”. Fuck that. I would t even have given him the time of day.", "If it wasn't filmed and shown to millions maybe.", "The classic “ignoring white people getting special treatment by police despite overwhelming evidence of criminal activity”", "He said he is a “60 year old man!”", "Imagine a template filled in with the relevant details.", "I think he mainly gave it back because of the reaction of the wife.", "The end where the guy tried to explain things and save face was total bullshit. He knew what he was doing was wrong. Taking his plate off the vehicle and trying to destroy the cameras was 100% to try and cover his tracks. Then he forced the sheriff's office to get a warrant and wasted everyone's time. He is a liar and a thief and nothing he can say will change that.", "Battered spouses are kind of the perfect example of \"we can't prosecute if you don't cooperate with us.\" Without the cooperation of the victim, there's no evidence to convict. Since spouses are given marital privilege when it comes to testifying against their partner, they can't be subpoenaed, so unless the spouse wants to \"press\" the matter, there's nothing the police can do.\n\nIn other types of cases, if the state can convict without the cooperation of the victim, then the victim's opinion doesn't really hold any weight in the matter, so \"pressing charges\" is really just a turn of phrase. Conversely, even if the victim really wants the state to bring charges against the perpetrator, if there isn't any proof, the state won't waste their time no matter what the victim's opinion is.", "Can't sugar coat being a thieving scumbag.", "Also, this has been up for 24 hours and has almost 3 million views already. Did the asshat redneck boomer thief actually give permission to use his face?! The levels of idiocy just keep getting deeper.", "Never seen this Youtuber before but I'm gonna subscribe. The class of him to give them money because he knows they might be struggling, I was speechless. What a good dude.", "Thieving pushes to you red neck.", "yeah this isn't a complaint crime lol, if this dude steals from him, he could steal from other too, or do other crimes.\n\nand I'm not even from the uk, but from belgium.\n\nI also find it odd he can just film the whole thing and put this on the internet. You'd probably pay more in fines for doing that, than what the dude stole, this isn't the middle ages where we use the pillory lol.", "Pre-YouTube that may have made a lot of sense to press charges. Now the first choice is to press charges on the guy, he gets a vandalism charge, goes in the local small town newspaper, and he probably doesn't do any time. Or you can make a YouTube video that goes viral with over 3 million views and counting that shows the guys face and home and his shitty excuses for theft. That's over 3 million views in a single day since upload. People in the small town watch the videos including the cops, when they recognize their neighbor they will share it with all the other neighbors. You can bet everyone in town will end up seeing this. Then you give the guy the money he pays you for the cameras he destroyed, making you look like a damned saint, and collect the YouTube revenue from the video you made of him getting caught for his crime. I would actually argue that in the YouTube age, this is a way smarter and more effective punishment than how the law enforcement would apply punishment for this crime.", "Most theft like this is a crime of opportunity, not need", ">claiming the guy is a pretty ardent and vocal antivaxxer on his channel?\n\nNot that I've seen. During the first year of covid he'd occasionally make a comment about how he was still out doing stuff and not letting covid dictate his life, but I don't remember anything at all about vaccines.", "If anything, give it to the cops and have them have a nice NYE party. They really sshowed up for that guy, great to see.", "Not just that the guy also gets sponsored a bunch as well.", "Aren't there still fees normally?\n\nAnd don't you get better discounts with full payment?", "Could have easily been grand theft, which carries heavier consequences.", "What a scumbag. This guy will absolutely steal again", "this guy was born to be in front of a camera lol", ">My guess is, cops didn't want to charge him\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/rGu1pPw.jpg", "Apologies if I’m wrong but I thought the Hilux wasn’t sold in America? Or is that something else", "Nothing should \"earn favor with cops\". That isn't how law enforcement should work. Let's be real a huge reason this situation went as smoothly as it did was because this was a white rural guy accusing another white rural guy and the situation was being handled by a bunch of white rural cops who knew they were being filmed by a very popular YouTuber. We both know if this has been a black kid not being filmed and the accuser wasn't a famous YouTuber there isn't any amount of niceness or forgiveness that accuser could show that would help that kid. \n\nBTW it was only coincidence that I glanced at your username but I used to be a big fan of your channel back in the day. Probably saw 90% of your videos. I stopped being a firearms enthusiast because the whole industry is filled with horrible people. You've always come off as reasonable and I see on your new channel that your even promoting vaccines. That's excellent. I'd hope you would be able to understand that when you support cops giving preferential treatment that's also supporting cops treating others unfairly.", "*redneck boomer gets caught stealing from a redneck gen z", "Worked out great for them. Hopefully they are careful chasing these guys down. It can get violent quickly when you confront someone.", "That dude looks younger than me, and i am not a boomer.", "I live in this part of the country. They are all drunk and on pills.", "Kind of pissed they even let him have an option. Justice system is fucking broken when we pick and choose what crimes to charge. It should be a simple concept:\n\nCommit a crime, get charged.", "Funny how they always look exactly like you’d expect.\n\nRednecks are pure trash. These are the same pieces of shit that cry “BLM = burn, loot, murder!” Fucking scum.", "This is always the go to response when a racial discrepancy is brought to light. Of course I don’t wish this old man to be accosted, beaten, harassed and imprisoned with a trail for 3 years. That is insane and cruel. Do I wish Browder didn’t have charges brought against him, well knowing the outcome of everything I don’t see how anyone could want him to go to jail without a trial the way he did. \n\nWhat I am merely doing is pointing out examples. People are being downvoted for saying this is a case of white privilege. That was my exact thought when this scumbag started making excuses and then his wife was able to run inside and grab the money he needed to pay and give it to the victim right away. Also when the victim let the dude get off scot free. Clearly we can see that the justice system in our country is skewed in one direction when we see this video juxtaposed to Browder’s case.", "No, I'm refuting your point that anyone believes \"that stuff only happen in the lawless lib cities\". Like, no one believes that. At all.\n\nAs for the racism, if you even try to lie and tell me that the inner city isn't commonly associated with minority populations, while rural areas aren't associated with mainly white populations, and that you weren't trying to make some revolutionary-assed point about anti-minority media reporting, public perceptions, whatever the fuck, I'm just going to laugh at you. I mean you can pretend you don't know that and act like you completely destroyed some \"redneck and/or redneck lover\" (but you're not racist) on the internet. I don't really believe it though and I don't think you do either. I'm more inclined to think you saw \"redneck\" in the title and then were pissed when you read the comments because absolutely no one was bringing up any kind of politics so you just had to invent something out of thin air.\n\nSo I'm done. You're not going to change your opinion and I'm not trying to get this post locked. Knock your socks off.", "Who is the YouTuber?", "I don't see how you could get that out of what he said. You're suggesting this person posting is a redneck boomer looking to win the oppression Olympics?\n\nhe's just pointing out hypocrisy and how people on reddit will justify bigotry against those they think are their enemy.", "It's in the the title dickhead. Learn to read before you decide your input is needed.", "Yeah that’s why I’m thinking the cops might be heading back to arrest that dude later.", "OK. The guy stole from him. So get him arrested or fuck off.\n\nThis kid is a creepy little rich kid.\n\nMost people have had their shit stolen at one point or another...this reaction to it is super weird. And the justice boners of the people watching this (and giving money to a spoiled rich kid) are super weird.", "And admitting he was driving while \"drunk and on pills\" standing right beside cops... weird excuse.", "Because it gets people on social media talking about it and garners more YouTube subscribers and views. WhistlinDiesel is sly like a fox.", "Boomer is an informal noun referring to a person born during a baby boom, especially one born in the U.S. between 1946 and 1965.", "\"There's no excuse but here's a bunch of excuses\"", "Makes it make sense tho. Pills are a super expensive addiction. They knock people off their mortgage payments all the time. Betting he was past due on a lot of bills. \n\nDoesn't matter where you live, short on cash means short on freedom. People will do anything to get their freedom back.", "3 million views in a day. He has made that back and then some already.", "Just pointing out the wide differential in the justice system. Don't read it as an indictment on the youtuber, who is genuinely interested in peaceful conflict resolution. It would be nice if \\*this outcome\\* was truly available to everyone, is all.", "Whistlin Diesel", "I wonder if the thief would be as considerate if the roles were reversed.", "He says he will press charges if more crimes come forward.", "is \"semantics\" really that big of a word to you? yikes.", "This guy was a recommended video on YouTube once (he had some monster truck floating on tires). I thought damn what a D-bag. But I like him now.", "This really sucks. Mental abuse makes this unlikely to happen. For instance, my father choked me when I was about 15 and then proceeded to attack me. I had to run out of the house to a friends house. My friend told me I should call the cops but I was too scared to do so. Even if I did, legal stuff takes a while to work itself out and I would likely had backed down regardless.", "\t\t\t\tBorn\t\tAges\n\nGen Z\t\t1997 – 2012\t\t9 – 24\nMillennials\t1981 – 1996\t\t25 – 40\nGen X\t\t1965 – 1980\t41 – 56\nBoomers II\t1955 – 1964\t57 – 66\nBoomers I\t1946 – 1954\t67 – 75\nPost War\t1928 – 1945\t76 – 93\nWW II\t\t1922 – 1927\t\t94 – 99", "Confused sheep distrusts law enforcement.\n\nNon sheep are apologists for law enforcement.\n\n2+2=5", "Thanks 😊", "Is this what conservatives mean when they say they need guns on their rural properties because it takes cops so long to get there? Is it because there's so many conservative criminals who play the victim after every crime? Jesus. What a douchebag this guy is.", "They admitted to watching WD's channel. That man knew who exactly who he was stealing from, and was doing so out of pure jealousy and spite. \n\nAbsolute trash. I feel sorry for his wife, she seemed nice.", "Does no one else just keep it to tip strippers and buy drugs?", "I wouldn’t have been that lenient on that POS even if his wife was crying and all. I would pressed charges and threw that asshole in jail. He has enough to be stealing around.", "YouTube began recommending his videos in my feed. I find his channel entertaining. I’m actually finding YouTube channels in general to be more entertaining than cable television. I can’t stand all of the fake reality and fake drama shows that are on every single channel. The only things I like watching on cable are Law and Order and NFL games. I occasionally watch the news and the weather. Even the fucking news sucks, to many opinionated hosts. Just report the fucking facts and I’ll form my opinions and conclusions.", "Might want to submit a correction to the American psychological association then. Their definition explicitly states that shame is distinct. The definition of shame doesn't even mention guilt. \n\nhttps://dictionary.apa.org/guilt", "He's shaming him by being a much bigger man in front of his wife.", "I don't buy it. He deliberately went through steps that are only done by someone who knows what they're doing is wrong.\n\nHe masked up to conceal his identity, took the plates off his cars, spray painted the cameras, and then lied to police.\n\nHe knew 100% that he was in the wrong while he was doing it for the reasons stated above and only gave this spiel at the end to try and save face.", "You're right, they would much rather him waste months of their time filing charges and having them testify in court", "No one is saying that", "Did he not build his success on hard work?", "Or worse, how he got rich. This man is clearly not just doing this on a whim. Truck with no plates, scouting the property, concealing identity and attempting to break security measures? He’s done this before and life is much cheaper when all your applicances, clothes etc are stolen", "Did this dude just offer a 300k reward for a 20k trailer? He must be loaded", "Who says he earned any of that shit even. I bet he married into money or \"paid\" for most of that by ripping people off his whole life and getting good at it.", "> I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to support the insurrection.\n\nBecause he's white or because he stole?", "If he was black…", "Yep, he went in and went \"Whew! Well that was a close one.\" I doubt he sat there and thought about what he did was wrong.", "Sounds like a blessing. Don't allow toxic relationships to ruin your peace.", "Hahaha this is a very generous assessment of this fool's expertise. He drove two different vehicles he owns onto private property in broad daylight and loaded up random shit from an unlocked container. He returned to the scene of the crime to spray paint cameras with huge antennas sticking out of them and didn't even notice a third one. He brought all the stuff he stole to his own property and put it in his garage sitting right behind the two vehicles he used to steal them. This is in no way the work of a smart person.", "\"Puts the thief right in the guilt zone. He feels worse from this than being charged by the police.\"\n\nDude.... have you not dealt with a narcissist? or a psychopath?? This didn't fucking punish anyone, he won.\n\nHow do you not get this, why are you guys making up some fairy tale story on how he \"feels bad and loses in the end\" \n\n\nI can't believe how fucking stupid your comment is and the fact that 41 other idiots read it and agreed with you", "What a piece of garbage. He was the most defensive person until he realized he was caught 100%.", "I don't think he ever intended to take the money.", "I don't think it's staged for YouTube but I highly doubt that this guy wouldn't have been arrested if it wasn't a YouTuber that he stole from. This guy said it himself, \"I don't need any more money. I just want my stuff back.\" Most of us wouldn't feel the same because we aren't in that position. So YouTube definitely played a role here.", "100 comments here saying check the dude out and not a single link\n\nEdit: hilux durability test:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Yl1FNX08HFc", "My question is how is this young dude so rich?", "Based on what the main dude said this is a shit area with shit neighbors, many of them probably steal all the time", "thanks for clarifying, tbf just had a quick google and didn't anything obvious pop up either. though from what i'm seeing he doesn't seem to be the most ecologically minded person on the planet...\"i bought a 54k hellcat, just to destroy it\"", "I think it'll largely depend on local politics. If the DA has a hard on for making a name for themselves for being \"tough on crime\" or if there has been a lot of local theft and there is pressure from the mayor to \"do something\" then they could quite conceivably go for an easy win like this one.\n\nAbsent external factors like that, I agree, low priority case to prosecute.", ">Yeah because of the millions of interactions police have a year, a handful make the \"news.\" \n\nThis is so laughably out of touch with how the real world works I can't believe you actually typed that. Huge negative incidents occur in almost any industry but when they happen it makes the news and shit hits the fan. Hell once in a year events get just as much flac from the media. Or are you saying we should just ignore things like the Colonial Pipeline hack or Surfside condominium collapse because the news reports on it? People dying to gross negligence will always make the news. \n\nGet real lol. Use that brain of yours to think instead of being reactionary.", "Welcome to the boomer mentality.", "He even slipped up and said something about him telling a friend of his about the cameras, for whatever reason. That makes me believe as well that he was setting things up and testing the waters for a larger theft.\n\nHe know it wasn't abandoned and him and his wife even knew who he was and that they were aware he was well off financially. They seen his videos online and probably saw he had a lot of expensive toys.\n\nPeople like that also rationalize stealing from others that are well off because they can just afford another one or some nonsense.", "Been living in Milwaukee for 10 years and have experienced none of those things. Well maybe some racists, but those are everywhere.", "Actually things happen for all sorts of reason all the time.", "maybe stealing was his path to success", ">I can’t stand all of the fake reality and fake drama shows that are on every single channel.\n\nI totally agree but man, so much on YouTube is just as fake. Any channels you like that avoid the clickbait-style cut-to-commercial-cliffhanger shit?", "Great video. Maybe I'm getting old - but what's with the mullet on people in their early 20s?", "Everybody hates you Chode", " I have family in the country that sold Oxy. No one got arrested when they got busted because they have lived in that town their whole lives but 10 years later, they are still known as the local dealers and cops show up and bother them whenever something drug related happens.\n\n This family will never live this down.", "I still wouldn't trust the priest around my kids though.", "I admit I watched this just to see if the term 'Boomer' was used correctly. It was!\n\nStill an unnecessary usage, but it actually correct usage for once.", "Because he’s a criminal and it’s perfectly normal for criminals to corrupt the rules to justify or obscure their crimes. The idea of working hard and following the rules to earn a crust seems lost of some folks. Perhaps it is a form of entitlement? I don’t think skin color has anything to do with it. People like this, who have abundance, yet still need to steal from others are spiritually dead.", "Thanks dude. Congratulations on making it past the year sober mark. \n\nI read your post a couple of times and I’m honestly having trouble following it, I’m sorry. \n\nNext time just the feed the dogs. Who cares if mom already fed them, they’ll just eat twice and think you’re awesome and your dad will be off your back.", "I tried to explain this to someone once and they didn't get it at all.\n\nInterest rates are so low now that it's almost stupid to pay off debt. If you have great credit you can get a 0 to 1.5% car loan right now! \n\nIt used to be that getting a 0% loan meant the car's price was jacked up, it was just a tactic dealerships used to get you to close the deal. Nowadays though the banks and credit unions are offering it! This means you walk into the dealer and they see you as a cash deal. The car's price isn't jacked up to get you to close.\n\nSay you take the 0% loan, you're literally mathematically better off leaving the money in a liquid savings account earning 0.25% than paying it off. That's the lowest risk place to put your cash! If you actually invest it, you're almost all but guaranteed to come out ahead. \n\nTimes are weird in the car industry right now. My car that's just out of warranty now has barely depreciated 2k. I take great care of it and I bet if I really tried I could sell it for breakeven-ish. The old heuristics that people used for making sound financial choices with cars don't really apply right now", "That's a mentality some thieves have. Its ok to steal from wealthy people or those who may appear that way because they can just get another one. Their just trying to rationalize their shitty actions.", "loconessmonster, I have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty", "TL;DW", "Agreed", "he didn't want to tell you about his other preps. :)", ">They also had to do something or risk public backlash for letting a confrontation potentially turn violent with the guy at the thief's property already.\n\nThis is why anything was done. He said he went to the police station and they wanted report filed and didn't seem to be doing anything. Whistlindiesel being at the property got the response.", "Makes you wonder what he did to afford his lifestyle.", "> i think he is doing fine and doesn't need to steal.\n\nKleptomania at its finest here", "Whistlin' Diesel is the youtuber in the video. He has many, many guns.", "I mean, you are kind of jumping to a conclusion. Just because someone doesn't return the items it doesn't mean they can't feel bad about it or sorry. I think this is something people tell themselves so they don't have to think about the slight greyness of issues. Dude still is guilty of all the original shit in this video. Doesn't mean he's the worst POS ever. He stole from another well off person. That's not as bad as stealing from a working class person or a poor person. At least the consequences of that action aren't as dire.", "Exactly, people can change for the better. If you don’t believe so, let me ask you why do we have a judicial system? Should we just kill everyone who has broken the law because they cant change? People just wanted to see revenge acted on the thief even when the victim felt compensated from the confession and getting his stuff back. WD was the bigger man and y’alls comments have shown how rare that trait is.", "Go to his fucking channel you inbred. If you look at how his videos are, they're typically a series. Just dive in. Pick fucking thumbnail and dive in. You can't go wrong.", "So the guy admits he drove while on pain pills and beer for why he stole his shit??", "There it is! Just a brain dead moron, carry on folks.", "Yeah, he probably has the cash from selling the stuff he stole from other people.", "Yeah I was thinking watch them turn around and try to sue him for filming him on their property and humiliating them.", "This is exactly what will happen.", "Yea because it's true", "I've mainly been a warehouse worker, worked a little bit for Carver (it's that weird tilting 3 wheeled vehicle that was on top gear) and spent a couple years back in my youth as a carpenter in construction.", "Boomers are 57 year +", "In the video above, the police likely already have enough evidence to convict even without the victim's testimony. After all, they received a search warrant extremely quickly. I am assuming he sent photos/video of the theft and vandalism. Those media files are now police evidence.\n\nBut the police, or this case even more so sheriff, needs to be concerned about neighborhood goodwill. A victim that publicly forgives the criminal means there is likely to be some negative criticism of the police if they still press charges.\n\nPersonally, I think the victim should have pressed charges. Cut deal that he won't be sued if he pays for the cameras, but let the DA charge him. Maybe suggest to the DA to cut a plea bargain. I would be fine if he just received probation. But it would be the basis to throw the book at him if he is ever caught doing criminal acts again.", "Maybe there was some concern about the thief acting out after being publicly shamed. People can certainly get unhinged for less. Not pressing charges is a good way to make them feel gratitude rather than anger. \n\nThe cash was definitely more generous than necessary though.", "Without a doubt. Also probably considers himself a “Christian”. These scumbags are the lowest life forms on earth.", "If I was the dude who had his stuff stolen I would have said, \"well I guess I am pressing charges, because you just admitted to driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol!\"", "YUP!! Projection specialists", "\"And now I'm going to try and convince you the same\"", "What's the deal with adding in boomer as if age has anything to do with this? Just sensationalism or is it intended for divisiveness or for overgeneralizatIons or what? I'm not getting it. Genuinely curious.", "I get not wanting to look like an asshole but press charges for this shit. The dude isn’t gonna learn his lesson. It’s not like he made it easy when he knew he was caught, he literally made them get a warrant. He fought it as much as he could only to try a sob story once he had no other option. \n\nHe needs consequences for his actions.", "He says he is 60 in the video. That said I'm not a fan of divisive language and feel we should unite as Americans.", "TIL I live in Dante's Inferno, apparently.", "This video has over 3 million views since it was uploaded a day ago. It's going to only climb from here. The police watch his channel, the thief and his wife also watch his videos all the time. Everyone in town is going to see this and share it with each other. This is way more exposure than a local newspaper, small town or not.", "It doesn't matter he's a boomer. He's a loser.", "The town this happened in is actually fairly large, so I haven’t seen it in those Facebook groups but I have seen it circulating all the nearby small town groups lol. A couple of people even claiming to know who the guy is lol", "I would have said all that shit to him on camera, then pretend to shut down the cameras and turn back \"ok. I changed my mind, I'm pressing charges.\"", "Lol shame is way worse than jail.", "I’m not arguing he’s smart. Just that this isn’t his first or last time stealing.", "I like Matt’s Off Road Recovery, South Main Auto Repair, Practical Engineering and my guilty pleasure is Neutral Drop. \n \nThere’s a bunch of other shit I like to watch too, like music videos, and just completely random shit.", "That'll cloud up the front lens like nobody's business. Ask me how I know.", "I just saw a video where an off duty cop brandishing a firearm because he thought the guy stole a candy bar. This guy goes full recon-stealth mode and steals 1000s and the cop suggested “all you want is your stuff back right?”", "I don't understand why people would care. It's one well off dude stealing from another well off dude and has zero impact on my life.", "Ding ding ding. It’s human nature to be kind to individuals “like you”. When I go upstate the locals don’t sound like me and they know it when I start talking and sometimes I’m getting nasty looks. The cops harassed the shit out of us when our car broke down and then decided it was time to search us.", "Saying all that while admitting he drove there too!! Like how dumb could you get? Those cops could’ve charged him for that.", "Explanations sound like excuses to assholes.", "People strip copper from buildings in the suburbs and cities all the time.", "I can't believe I watched that whole thing but by god it was entertaining. Dude is WAY nicer than I would've been... I would've gotten my stuff back and been like \"Oh actually I DO want to press charges\". Fuck that guy.", "Had a lazy painter over spray some of my cameras, then just rub it off with acetone. Clouded the front lens all nasty. Just gray scale after that. Needed new housings.", "She'll give him shit for getting caught", "Either the state or individual can press charges. The state may still decide to press charges later.", "Exactly. I think a lot of people in here underestimate how fucked this guy is even without charges being pressed.", "exactly why he should have been prosecuted.", "If they need the money they can sell some of that crap in their yard, she wouldn’t be “hurt”.", "Reading this made me wanna punch my phone in the face! Life is not fair 😭", "Let me clear up a couple little thing for you, then you’re free to continue shitposting nonsense and/or go ahead and pretend you’ve stated anything of value and preemptively hop off the mic before you get a response. You didn’t refute anything and in fact validated the generalization I was making. Your post is a near-textbook definition of redneck projection, from the weirdly random shoehorned use of the word “revolution” to the whole “you’re talking about race I’m not talking about race even though I just brought it up please ignore that as I’m trying to pretend you said stuff about race”. I cannot metaphorically nor literally give any less shits as to what you believe or don’t, the fact remains that I was referring to a, what is at this point, war on cities, that the conservative media has been waging for years now. Things like the fake obsession with a group that barely exists (antifa), lies about how nothing is enforced (why I used “lawless”). Sure, it absolutely is racist in nature, but indirectly. I was more speaking from a general “us vs them” false mentality that has been nurtured in people, apparently you included, and again, speaking to the bonkers-level projection, it is both surprising and not at all, that you brought it up and then tried to pretend I did. (Edited to add this side note: did you know the majority of “BLM” graffiti as well as store trashings after the initial rioting were found to have been done by outsiders who happened to be white? I wonder what their intention was? 🤔)\n\nSo, in summary, I didn’t “destroy” anyone or claim to; you did it all on your own by projecting your own mentality onto me. Cheaters tend to be the most suspicious types in relationships, did you know that? In the same manner, rednecks are constantly talking about and accusing their perceived enemies of claiming everyone else is obsessed with race and how they are reverse-racists and pedos. Makes one think, no?", "The point is, you could see he was remorseful about it. I’m not saying he should have gotten away with it the way he did, but I think his whole plan backfired. And then he was made to feel shit.", "100% if this was a black man he would have been arrested on the spot. \n\nIt's honestly insane how utterly useless judging someone for being in prison is because there are people in prison for a decade over this exact thing while he just gets embarrassed.", "Exactly. Maybe sell the RV?", "He wasn't sorry for stealing. He was sorry he got caught. If he thought he wasn't doing anything wrong, then why did he take measures to not get caught?", "Maybe you’re right, but it isn’t like prison fixes people who go there. If this was somewhere in Europe where the prisons rehabilitate people instead of punish them, then I would think it would be helpful. However, in the US where the recidivism rate is extremely high, it would probably cause more damage than good. I think this kid did the right thing to document this and shame the guy in front of his wife. Now the guy is known to police and to the general public, and is far less likely to risk stealing again. Not saying he won’t steal, just that prisons in the US aren’t some productive place that makes people good. It often fuck them up even more instead, and shouldn’t be used for most nonviolent crimes.", "I think it wasn't about the money for the guy and giving the money back/not pressing charges does two things:\n\n- Gains favor with the local police, which he needs because he's always doing some crazy stuff and probably needs a get out of jail free card.\n\n- Knows that in the country, you don't want ongoing beefs with your neighbors. This is a big one. Everybody knows everybody. If you drag this guy through the mud and put him in jail and make him pay up for the damages (which he 100% deserves), then you just made a nemesis in the country. And not just him, but every hairbrained alcoholic pill head this guy is connected to as well. You don't wanna give this guy a reason to continue to hate you after you put him in jail for a felony, he loses his gun rights from the felony, has to pay a lot of money in court and jail fees, etc etc. You don't wanna have to continue to look over your shoulder the whole time you live out there. WD made a business decision to not let give this guy a reason to continue the beef and de-escalated it. The worse punishment really for this guy is being shunned by their (small) community and forever being looked at as a liar and thief.", "That was the 1400$ they gave him for replacing the damaged cameras, he just handed it back to the theifs wife.", "Press charges you idiot. This dude's done this to a 100 people. He'll be out again in a couple weeks doin the same damn thing. You didn't teach him anything. He'll tell the next guy the same fuckin sob story.", "I'm guessing the victim has better things to do. Pressing charges sounds like a lot of work", "It's not even just cynicism. It's that mixed with justice boners which actually ends up just being a revenge boner.", "I do too. I bet he's done this before. \n\n*However* I believe in the benefit of the doubt. If she had no idea and she had to deal with this for the first time, she would be a victim too.", "Wow no punishment at all after the white dude stole thousands and destroyed more and absolutely lied to the end about it.. But let’s put a knee till he dies on a black guy using a fake 20 dollar bill or for jogging down the street.", "The way he dealt with this situation is the way everyone should strive to resolve problems.", "You mean doing their job? Lol", "Let me sell you a bridge.", "Really pisses me off that the YouTuber guy gave him back the $1,400 they gave him for the damages. He got sucked into his sob story.", "Shouldn't have let them off. Fuck a thief in every way possible. Fuck them to hell.\n\nLast person that stole from me stole something worth $40. Told him bring it back and we'll call it even. He refused.\n\nI pressed charges. He missed 2 court dates which cost him $500 bucks. \n\nWhen he showed for the 3rd he was given 30 days. It violated his probation on another charge and they revoked. \n\nHe spent 2 years in jail because of that $40 theft, caught covid in jail and died while I sat at home relaxing and playing with my son.\n\nHe got exactly what he deserved. Don't take shit that isn't yours. Period. \n\nI couldn't have asked for a better outcome. Bet the cunt wished he hadn't stolen from me.", "https://youtube.com/channel/UCdqp0KK_Io7TwK5cJMBvB0Q I don't really watch him much myself but here", "This folks is the heartland of America. Fucking shithole for the most part. But the people are super friendly as they are steeling your shit, burning your house down, assaulting your family. I used to live in areas like this. I got the fuck out. Just like this Youtuber. Couldn't take living around those dumbasses.", "It's probably just that their focus is on making sure Americans don't die from their food and medicine, not because Big Dog Food is writing our laws.", "Lol well probably not from that guy at least.", "If the guy wasn't white in this very video the YouTuber wouldn't have pressed charges and the guy wouldn't be in jail either so your initial comment is completely wrong and asinine.", "Mask, bolt cutters and \\*maybe\\* spray paint I could see someone working a farm or something having in their truck, but taking the plates off when he first visited implies a \\*lot\\* more premeditation than his story suggests. Even if you did think \"those look abandoned, I could just nip in and grab them\", removing your \\*plates\\* just in case of a camera or something completely undermines what he claimed. \n\nThe fact his wife didn't see anything odd with the car having no plates when he got back to the house suggests it wasn't the first time it'd happened too", "Bruh if this was a Spanish speaking immigrant family without documents... the entire family would have had their lives upended. \n\nThis boomer just has to hear his wife call him a dumbass.", "You're sure the thief is a decent guy? So many rubes in this thread. Thieves are very skilled at garnering sympathy when caught, you shouldn't fall for it so easily.", "He should have pressed charges.", "is there a subreddit for seeing thieves get caught", "The youtuber this is from is whistlindiesel", "The dude only even said all of that because he couldn’t run away from all the incriminating evidence. Even had to get a search warrant for it. That bottom feeding thief is the asshole. Should have been arrested right there and then.", "Mother fucker was playing victim. He'll steal and lie again. Wish charges were pressed against him.", "YouTuber is thinking of his subscribers, which is worth a lot more than the recovery of these goods. If he forgives, he’s less likely to lose viewers and may even gain some.", "You can feel remorseful while still trying to protect yourself. The actions definitely speak louder to most people but you can in fact feel both things at the same time.", "> It's weird he mentioned that a friend told him about the cameras\n\nIt's not weird, it's obvious. He *bragged* about it! The minute they pressed that point he backed off because then he would of been incriminating his friend too. \n\n\nThis guy knew who he was, Knew he had stuff, stole it, bragged about it, realized he had fucked up and then went back to cover his tracks in the most idiotic way possible. \n\nScumbag! He should of pressed charges.", "The DA needs to present a case by showing evidence of the crime in order to secure a conviction. In this case, the YouTuber has all the evidence on his phone/computer and has declined to press charges. They are lazy and if all the evidence is coughed up for them to use, MAYBE they'd charge him, but they aren't going to go out of their way to do it all on their own without the victim's help.", "I mean the people on cops don't get let off with a \"public humiliation\" sentence. I'm sure anyone in prison or on probation for 15+ yrs would gladly choose a viral video that will disappear in a month over the justice system.", "He is not completely free and clear, his relationship with his wife is going to take a hit because of this now that she knows her husband is a thief.", "I have property out in Texas. We straight up caught our neighbors red handed in our tractor with it running as they were trying to drive it over to their property. We'd never even met them, and people live here! They tried to say they were \"borrowing\" our tractor because some other neighbor we'd also never met said we said it was OK. Get fucked. They went into our property, opened the garage, found the key, and cranked it up to take it.\n\nAnother neighbor in another city stole literally everything in our garage. Like boxes of shit, yard equipment, broken shit, new shit, everything. Used the same excuse as this guy. \"Thought it was abandoned\" because we didn't live there. We shared a fence, and all I had to do was poke my head over the fence and there it all was. Walked over and he was mowing his lawn with his fancy new lawnmower he had stolen from us the day before. Idiot.", "What does \"I had to get up and walk around\" mean in this context?", "My grandparents live in a different rural area in another state and have to deal with this. People walk into their property to steal. My family paid to put in expensive cameras like this YouTuber to help monitor things from a far. \n\nIt’s ridiculous. Like they don’t own gold, they’re basically hoarders at this point in time because they’re too old to clean. So people steal what is essentially trash, I reckon to try and pawn off for drug money", "It depends on what the charges are. For some things, it's not up to the victim at all.", "Rural America has serious projection issues but that's just the tip of the iceberg. I escaped from the rotten hellhole that is rural America. All the poor whites I knew were racist and complained incessantly, making stupid generalizations about black people refusing to work and collecting welfare checks, but a good chuck of these same white people were themselves recipients of, if not food stamps, farm subsidies and PPP loans. Most were alcoholics and more than a few had pill problems. Honestly rural Americans are brainwashed as fuck. They're literally being mentally conditioned and bred like human cattle for the capitalist machine. Need some warm bodies to send to the Middle East? Come to my podunk high school! Recruiters were welcomed with opened arms by the faculty, staff and parents. My high school friend is now dead because of it. Need cheap labor and no pesky unions? No problem. My uncle was crushed to death by a forklift. In other news, a 5 year old just got crushed to death by a forklift. My state is number 1 in forklift deaths! Hooray for no government regulations or unions!", "Yeah but it affects no one here. It doesn't even affect his victim. If the context were different I could understand people caring more but this is all the result of content gold.", "My post was prefaced by\n\n>Sure but you need the victims cooperation.\n\nDon't act like it wasn't.\n\nI didn't think I needed to write out \"sure you could subpoena them but they will have to cooperate\" but here you are, not letting me down.", "My guess is the dude is a serial liar and his wife is often in denial about his behavior, unless a mass of cops show up.", "People who think the worst of people are often projecting, worried others might do what they themselves have done.\n\nNot the cause of all paranoia, but hardly uncommon.", "Also driving a nice pricey truck", "( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)", "I'd be willing to bet a good chunk of change the thief has ranted about how black people are low life criminals, while using a word that is not nice and starts with an N.", "Not sure if your last sentence is referring to the Bible or the inferno but if it’s the Bible, it’s because they revere it so much. It’s almost it’s own entity, at least in Catholicism (how I was raised). Took me a while to realize it really was just a book. \n\nIf you’re talking about the inferno, then it might be because it’s a visualization of something that a lot of people already believe in.", "The guy probably has a pain pill addiction, he has some nice stuff but deep in debt. He steals shit and sells it for cash to buy drugs and tries to keep his wife in the dark about the financial situation. I think the \"I took a pain pill and drank a beer\" quote explains everything.", "Let's bring back the monarchy!", "I don’t know. I have some of this gear and it’s extraordinarily expensive. That’d hit the bank account in a special way even if you have a couple million on stash. The wife would absolutely have to wonder where this stuff came from.", "The caption sounds like a PH 🎥", "Technically you're correct, the 5th only protects from self incrimination, but as has been pointed out by a \\*lot\\* of people, [including legal experts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE), there's no way for you to know for certain whether you've committed a crime with any of your actions. You'd certainly need to speak to a lawyer about it, but as long as you plead the 5th before taking the stand (apparently taking the stand can be considered waiving your 5th) and refuse to testify throughout the case, you absolutely can use it to avoid testifying\n\nThat said, the work around usually used by courts to deal with this issue is to offer a witness immunity to prosecution should any of their statements be incriminating. In that situation you 100% have no choice other than to testify, as it explicitly removes the condition under which you can invoke the 5th. At that point refusing to testify means being held in contempt of court to compel you to testify", "At no point did he apologize for it though, which I think is very telling. He's not giving it back because he wants to, he's giving it back because he got caught.", "Well obviously, lol. His whole thing is destroying shit to get views. Nobody claimed he was a progressive or a champion of the environment, just that he isn't blatantly antivax.", "Stupid sexy Flanders!", "I have to commend the police for dealing with that so quickly and reasonably. Wish everything worked that way.", "But none of that matters if *he* doesn’t feel any shame. The optimist in me likes to think that maybe it was a wake-up call for him. The pessimist chimes in that he clearly put a lot of effort into concealing his identity and initially denying everything for someone who claimed to just be picking up “abandoned property” and this wasn’t his first rodeo. There are a lot of manipulative people out there who are genuinely unable to feel shame. While I respect that it was the YouTuber’s decision not to press charges and be the bigger man, I still think it was the wrong call.", "After the detective work was done for them. \n\nThe context of my reply was clearly the context of yours, where the police would be doing the detective work, which they simply don't do for small thefts like this, as the guy explained in the video already nothing would have come of it if they didn't do it this way.", "I'm sure she already \"knew\" he was a dirtbag.", "In this case, the guy filming is a professional youtuber and will make way more money by posting the video than he'd get from any kind of lawsuit.", "Eh, I'd think it was abandoned if I saw something like that. Unless I'm missing some key context.\n\nThen again, when I first moved to my current city, I decided to get rid of my bike by leaving it locked in the outside bike rack, and waited for someone to take it. Couldn't have been more than two days!", "Establishing dominance maybe? It also seems strange he would steal", "Just imagine all the other stolen shit on his big ass property", "Weird especially because the Bible has direct answers for those. Hebrews 6 talks about willful sin. Paul talks in Romans about repeating sins. The official Christian doctrine is that no one is sinless, not even the “best” Christians. That’s why it’s so weird some develop a “holier than thou” complex. Paul, the most prolific writer of the New Testament, referred to himself self as the chief of all sinners. Christians are supposed to recognize our own depravity and shortcomings.", "Happy ending! Theves suck!", "Not pressing charges makes me hate having wasted time on watching this video. That piece of shit wore a mask(you KNOW it wasnt for covid), spray painted the cameras, denied it, wouldnt return the stuff without a search warrant then made up lame ass excuses.\n\nNot pressing charges is the shittiest thing that seeming nice guy could do. \n\nI HOPE he is playing the forgiving neighbor so he can then later set that barn on fire and he wont be a suspect.", "Yeah I mean kinda rude but the comments on YouTube are full of weird comments like that. Shit like \"stealing from neighbors is the lowest form of thievery\" and \"there is no greater dishonor than embarrassing your wife.\" Some people's ideals are based on really arbitrary, antiquated values rather than ethics.\n\nKinda reminds me of the comments on reddit that get upvoted every time someone tries to stop an armed robber. Someone always says \"it's great they were successful but it's totally not worth risking your life for cash when it would have been safer to just hand it over\" and then someone always comments \"I'd rather DIE for my money than forfeit my property like a coward\" and gets 100 upvotes. It's just old-timey, masturbatory ideals", "At no point did the thief apologize for what he did. He admitted he was wrong and didn't try to excuse it, explained how what he did was wrong... But he never apologized for it.", "I like you.", "MAGBA", "You think? It's a bet, not an assumption. But the record of American justice makes the odds point in my favor.", "This person isn't exaggerating at all.\n\nTraveling through Texas we stopped at a QT gas station and was watching TV before a quick rest.\n\nWe had one of those bags on top of our SUV you can store stuff in and a generator strapped down. Hear some noises and jump out the car, some dude with a knife was quick cutting all the straps.\n\nLooks at me, starts running away, turns around saying something I couldn't understand. I would have left it alone but I assume dude said something disrespectful. \n\nSaw dude casually walking back to the passenger side of a vehicle in driver seat his pregnant very embarrassed gf. \n\nAsk dude if it was him that was trying to steal my shit dudes basically like \"Yeah, I don't need your shit\"\n\nOkay well whatever I'm just here to let you know my wife and one year old child are in the car, you shouldn't be doing that kind of shit you could get hurt. \n\nI explained to dude that my wife who's now standing in front of our vehicle had a Glock pointed at him since he had a knife out when I stepped out the car. \n\nThat he could of easily got himself hurt with his pregnant wife watching. Random cop rolls into the gas station, dude starts looking hella nervous. Go on to say look man, you cut my straps now my stuff can fall off while driving. Do you have anything to replace them or money to replace them.\n\nHis girl offers me a bag full of change but I declined as my intention was more of just treating dude like a child being disciplined. \n\nWalk off after a few others things and fix the straps, dude comes around eventually with some bungee cords. Useless to me but it's the principal, still have them strapped on top of my SUV.\n\nAnyways don't steal from other people, not because you can get hurt or jailed but because they are people. They spend their life essence for that car, TV, whatever it may be. \n\nYou know damn well if someone stole any of your shit that you spent let's say 240 hours working for, you'd be quite upset \n\nYes it's stuff, but it cost your life to obtain.", "I recognize that debt can be a tool, but along with that tool comes risk. I absolutely hate owing money. It always feels like a ball and chain. I will take out loans for things when I have to, but I otherwise avoid it at all costs. I am just more comfortable not having a bunch of debt hanging over me.", "“Stupid sexy Flanders!”", "Yeah, I have been at it for a little over a year and am about to cross 1500 subs. A friend got over a million views on his first video and has maintained 120k subs and it is just enough income to maintain a low-middle class income.", ">Where you trip up is saying that \"bad weather\" is an objective fact.\n\nMy whole conversation has been about \"bad weather\" and the point that the Midwest has it the worst. It is an objective fact, trip up? there was no trip up.\n\n​\n\n>Believe it or not, different people like different weather, and you \ncan't really put metrics on that.\n\nNo, but you can put the severity into metrics which is done literally daily and is able to be referenced. This isn't about what people like, and never was. That's why it's objective. You can love things that are bad. It doesn't make them less bad. It just means that despite the negative qualities, you still enjoy it. That doesn't make your decision right or wrong, but it doesn't mean it's good because you like it.\n\n​\n\n>The fact that you keep arguing it really shows a lack on maturity.\n\nSo because someone refuses to concede their point, they're immature? You realize if you use this nugget, by saying I refuse to concede my point, you are also refusing to concede yours right? If you can use it then so can I. Congratulations on the most brain dead take yet.\n\n​\n\n>Even if you could say it was \"objectively true,\" who gives a fuck?\n\nThis pretty much goes right back to the previous comment. If this is where your logic leads you, then you shouldn't get involved in topics and conversations, message boards and the internet may not be your thing.", "I’m not sure because I don’t know him, but I doubt he’s a complete degenerate all the time, most people aren’t. The question is will he continue to steal shit after this? If not I don’t see why he should go to prison. If so send him to prison next time. I’ve known several people who stole stuff, got caught and legitimately never did it again because they realized it just isn’t worth it.\n\nFor non violent offenses there is fairly minimal risk in offering a second chance, the police are aware of what he did here and probably will charge him if he continues his behavior", "Oh, and while I'm at it - if the friend knew there were cameras its likely HE had been scoping out the place and he's a thief too!", "He’s telling that long-ass story like he’s dealing out some boomer wisdom and knowledge. Put that asshole in jail.", "Some jizzed-out sheets?", "Guy should've been arrested. This isn't the first time he's stolen and won't be the last. I've seen people get arrested for all sorts of dumb minor victimless stuff, no way this guy should walk.", "He’s rich from his YT channel, was pretty much lower middle class farmer’s kids before he started his channel.", "ooooof, that poor woman.", "Man you’re way off. People in the country don’t buy spray paint, they already have it.", "Yeah he made a point to say he didn't need it and was just stealing to steal. I think our guy misheard.", "“I had heard people steal things around here”\n\nYeah man, you found the reason and you let him off to go do it some more. Being a stand-up guy to the rest of the victims would have meant getting this guy cuffed and charged…", "They always blame the substance. They fact that he said he CAME back after he saw the stuff...", "People like that steal for the thrill of stealing. Gives em a rush.", "Exactly. He made multiple trips to steal the stuff, took the plates off his car, wore a mask to conceal his face, and disabled the cameras. Then, when the cops initially confronted him, he denied everything, claimed they didn’t have pictures of him, and tried to hide the stuff. He didn’t crack until they were going through his garage with a search warrant, and *then* he broke out the sob story. Dude knew exactly what he was doing.", "Yeah, I would agree that's true. Doesn't apply here though.", "He handled the situation well and also got content out of it!", "This could have gone so much worse. I thought for sure he was going to pull on that sheriff when he first walked to the shed.", "I’m willing to bet that the $1400 he gives back he’s going to return to him tenfold through clicks and likes", "You're downvoting because you hate to see White Privelege called out.", "I think people project their own experiences of being a victim of theft onto those video, and I don’t blame them. A lot of victims of theft can be ruined from the crime with no opportunity for recourse. This guy is obviously well off enough that he can afford to be forgiving. We should all be so lucky to be stable enough to be so virtuous, but that’s not reality for 99% of people.", "I kinda hope she divorces the dude. Probably won't, but she'd be very justified if she did.", "Yeah what does this guy do for a living?", "Everyone in that town that's lost something will start to wonder if he did it.", "> And sometimes, killing with kindness and making them feel guilt is a lot worse than punishing them and making them angry.\n\nYeah, way worse than going to prison!", "My sister had someone who tried to commit suicide leave the hospital in the middle of winter wearing only the hospital gown and they took shelter in her garage. It was around 0 degrees out, so super cold. He didn't do anything to her garage, but was bleeding, so blood got on some things. \n\nMy sister told them she didn't want to press charges because the guy was obviously already going through some bad shit and he didn't really do any damage, he was just trying to keep himself warm. They told her that she didn't have a choice and they were pressing charges anyway. My sister was quite angry with them, especially since she was going to have to miss work to testify against her will which would have cost her hundreds of dollars. Right before the trial date they apparently made a plea deal with him. \n\nI always thought it was crazy that they didn't give a shit about what she wanted to do and in fact they were willing to cost her far more than he ever cost her in the first place.", "Lol doubt it. IF he felt any shame/guilt at all (big if), it was gone minutes after the dude drove away.", "Only in a raider economy. There’s going to be a lot of value in production too, knowing how to make boots or stitch a wound or bake bread from scratch is going to be on par with people who can shoot wildlife or find water.", "I know none cares, but i understand where he was coming from. He admitted he was an idiot and had no excuse. And he knows that. But under the slight influence of pills and beer your stupid turns into action. He is lucky he didn't get himself a dui charged based on admitting to driving while under the influence. Definitely a terrible person in that moment and likely all the time, but we all make mistakes. It was nice that WD gave him a chance to make it right.", "I grew up among the stupidly wealthy due to private school scholarship. One of my early lessons was that nobody got rich without a heap of dishonesty. The ones you dont like are just the ones simple enough to get caught.\n\nThere are hard working people in the middle classes, but there is a hurdle you have to overcome in terms of love or at least respect for your fellow man to climb above that.", "I mean, that sentiment seems to be pretty popular on reddit.", "I hate thieves.", "Definitely was not just a heat of the moment decision. But also i doubt he got that house and cars from just stealing someone else's old truck tailgates and tshirts.", "Yeah, I live a bit rural and was thinking the same. \n\nThis dude is done in his community. May as well be walking around with a scarlet letter.", "How's that boot leather taste?", "He should have been arrested. He is a thief. More than likely not his first time stealing. If you Keep letting these guys get away, there's no consequences for their actions.", "He won by becoming famous for stealing and being shamed on camera. Nah. He didn't win. He just didn't lose as bad as he deserved.", "The money was the older guy trying to pay the younger guy for the damaged cameras, but the younger guy refused to accept it. And everyone in these comments was extolling it as admirable. My point was just that it's not very admirable to me to do a good deed with the intention of filming yourself doing it for the internet.", "That was exactly what I was thinking. I was pissed about him not pressing charges but then when he gives the money back? 🧑🏻‍🍳💋", "it is a failure to protect the public good by not arresting this asshole.", "yea he says that after he's caught. but in the video the first thing he does is ask the cops what the plates are. also if they don't have plates for that vehicle, why aren't the cops giving him a ticket for driving without a plate? he admits to a shitload of crap, being on pills while driving etc. where's his dui?", "Like, he did a lot to try to circumvent security. He had to have planned it before drunk driving over there on pills and vandalized, stole, and trespassed.", "I mean that was to cover the costs of the cameras he ruined, and the victim had already stated he'd be fine with that.", "Honestly, that probably also hurt more than a small conviction. He showed to that wife that he is more humble and generous than her own husband. That will cause long-lasting damage to their marriage, if I were to guess.", "Maybe that's why he is doing so well", "I saw this video today.\n\nThe youtuber is whitlindeisel", "You are so easily manipulated by a title you broadly apply it to everyone. Uh huh. Please don't vote you muppet.", "Well, certain crimes are committed against people, and you kind of need the victim to say how they were affected in order to really have a case against the perpetrator. Most of the time, it's possible for the police to go forward with the case, but it becomes weaker as a result if nobody wants to speak up.", "“Give him a break, he’s a good guy” - one of the sheriffs probably", "“Oh, you were driving drunk? Do you have a prescription for those pain pills?”", "Yep he is hilarious", "Exactly, there's no way I would have been that nice to him because he was lying right to his face and showed no real remorse. Maybe if he was honest about it, but there aren't many things I hate more than when a person blatantly lies to my face. We both know you are lying and it's an insult to my intelligence to do it. If someone stole from me and then thought I was a moron and lied right to my face I'd most certainly press charges. That's all not to mention that there's a 100% chance that guy has been stealing things from around the community for years.", "Yeah, that’s kind of my point. This is a wealthy guy, he had the money and resources to stage the area with thousands of dollars of security measures, and if he lost all the stuff that was stolen he could just re-buy it all without having any financial issues. \n\nIf this was someone else that guy would have gotten away with stealing everything.\n\nThe only way there will be more crimes brought forward is if he gets caught, and he probably won’t get caught again if he steals from people who can’t afford to go to these lengths to catch him.\n\nHe thinks he did a good deed by letting him go, but in turn is allowing someone else to be the victim of this man. He wasn’t sorry he stole all that shit, he knew it was wrong, he is just sorry he got caught and then was able to manipulate this guy with his sob story.", "That's fair. The real title of the video is \"catching the guy who stole 20 things from me.\" So OP took some liberties with this post by creating a different headline.", "Was your textbook from Texas? It shows", "What did I say that was wrong?", "And just like that, he got away and will do it again.", "And somehow he had $1400 in cash at the ready. Hmm…", "for people that have android phones are their any rivals to apple tags we could use ?", "Yeah but if you don't cooperate as a witness then the CPS may decide to drop the case or the police may not even refer.\n\nSexual assault by its nature is v hard to prove, but it becomes nearly impossible when victims do not cooperate (for which there are many reasons, from not wanting to re live their trauma to being threatened by the perp's family to being gaslit by their well meaning friends to being discouraged early on by the police to one too many well known examples of police being literal murderer-rapists to statistics showing bias in treatment of certain groups to having the very reasonable notion that the police as an institution mostly arent there to protect the bodies of the weak but to protect the property of the strong).", "Sorry I was drunk is nothing if not a shitty excuse", "Exactly which is why i would be pressing charges. Fuck his empty apology", "Nice!", "You're entirely correct. I just took at deposit from a customer of mine who I sold a 2018 CR-V back in the day. His difference value between trade and a 22 same-trim CR-V was 5,000, and that's selling the new car at MSRP. Used car values are absolutely bonkers right now.\n\nThe big question I have is, who is actually buying these used cars at two or so grand over new car MSRP? Like, what sense does that make?! I guess if you're in a crunch and can't wait two months for a new car to arrive from factory maybe, but even then, with the price disparity I'd try to beg, borrow, or negotiate rides with coworkers / friends and family.\n\nWhen the market normalizes, anyone who bought one of those used cars is going to be up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle.\n\nIt's even worse for first time buyers. A lot of banks don't like to finance over ~$15,000 on first time buyers unless they already have three open lines of credit with over X thousand dollar limit. The problem is that cars that were $15,000 a year ago are now $20,000, and the $10,000 cars are now closer to $17,000. It's getting so bad that by the time you get to that $15,000 OTD mark, the cars are so old and high mileage that the banks are only giving 36mo terms if they will finance at all. Even once you find a car the bank will finance on Line 5 approval (so, buyer is capped at a specific amount financed), the payment is so high (because the bank has chopped the term) that the bank decides the payment is too high for their income to support.\n\nSeriously, if you know anyone who's a first time buyer, they need to come in with $3,000 to $5,000 down. The problem is that people have been convinced that they should be able to finance wirh 0 down, and that's just not happening for first timers.", "Next time on Americas dumbest criminals", "At the end he offers $300k for info about his dad's stolen $20k loader. This guy has huge heart.", "Exactly", "He has probably been doing it his whole life. It probably played a factor into how he got enough money to afford the property that he has. You dont take that kind of stuff on a whim without knowing what to do with it. Especially not the preparation of spray painting the cameras and removing the plates. He probably has a local fence, and is part of a local crime ring. He should have pressed charges but this video will get around and Im guessing word will make it around town where he lives. He may have gotten the $1400 cash back and no criminal charges, but the social charges and sentencing will be brutal.", " I was referring to Inferno, but they both kinda apply, really. I hear you, but it just seems like someone arguing that something is possible because they saw it happen in a comic book or something as far as reason is concerned.", "dont even need an alarm, just use the gunshots", "So he's admitted to driving under the influence", "You can remove the paint with alcohol, most paint will come off with remover like Goo be gone. Use some wipes, it might not work but you can try and put the camera in rice.", "They have a pretty large property. She may not have even seen the stuff yet.", "LOL! Yeah, the mentality of the rednecks in Oregon and Texas is little different, but the redness of their necks sure is! I've seen so many people here in Texas in their 20's who've spent every summer on the lake, who have the leathery skin of a 40 year old Oregonian meth head. Wake life y'all!", "I would love to see that skid loader justice vid", "It’s super weird to me that the thief mentions operating a vehicle while on pills and alcohol and the cops weren’t like, “Oh, well here’s a DUI on top of the other charges you’re facing.”", "I took 2 pain pills and drank a beer. Shouldn't be allowed to drive.", "He has every item from the “Oppressed Redneck” starter kit visible except for the guns and tacti-cool gear. And I can just about guarantee he has at least the guns.", "Well for some reason you think commenting in r/conspiracy means anything. And also you somehow think ACA is a good thing for this guy?", "Zero to lose? That guy has a big house and a massive garage on acres of land. He has plenty to lose. And he had $1400 in cash at the ready.", "It was completely \"fuck this guy.\" My brother in law has had every kind of medical attention he can get. He has severe schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. He also has a terrible addiction to hard drugs like meth from self medicating. Imagine the paradox of either taking your meds and realizing how shit your life is, or not taking your meds and being dangerous to everyone around you and yourself. The guy has been in special programs, he has been in and out of hospitals. He's unable to hold down a job so he's on social security. The police don't want to help him and they don't know how to deal with him. Her parents have had to call them repeatedly in their home town because the guy is simply too big and when he snaps they can't deal with him. He's 6'5 and 300 lbs.", "Yeah he's worth way more, he's bought multiple large properties recently. It's not YT money either, YT(and insta) grows the fan base and then you sell them merch", "> It could be jealousy or purposely trying to hurt his neighbors\n\nCould be mental illness. Could be bipolar for example. Unmedicated bipolar people can do some pretty extreme stuff on a whim when having a manic episode.\n\nNot saying this to excuse him. It's just a possible explanation.", "Hell, least the police did something. Where we are they did nothing but file a report. Even when we gave them the address that the credit card company gave us, from them using our info to open the card. The guy has a long known history of being thief.", "He was only sorry he got caught. If he was truly remorseful he would have returned the stuff he stole.", "Giving his wife money was just fucking retarded. Lost me there. Why is it all YouTubers now think they have to hand out cash in every video to get views? Money isn’t a fix all. If you need to hand it out, go give it to someone who actually needs it and doesn’t have a comfy life in a fuckin county mansion. Maybe a night or more in jail is what his wife actually needed? If you think he didn’t take half of that $ or pocket all of it after you left, you’re just as retarded. Did you already forget he denied stealing it 30 minutes ago? It took a fuckin warrant and a buttload of peoples time to come get it and load it for you princess. \nThis guy committed 3rd degree (grand) theft, which is a felony (several times over). There are people in jail and prison for much less….It’s just a fact. He didn’t just get high and get a lame little buzz off a beer and go “heeeulk, I’m grrrna steeel that thar stuff! I feel sexteen!” He plotted it the fuck out, called a friend or two about it, ran to town for a mask (cuz you know he don’t own one), popped off his license plate on the car, then made several trips stealing your shit after ruining your cameras and….get this, \nhe very likely knows where the fucking loader is…..99%. \nHe wins. You lose. \nFor fuck sake. \n\nHe wasn’t even sorry about it. Like at all. His half assed atonement was just bullshit about himself. \nNo wonder these two were neighbors. \nDumb dumbs.", "The YouTuber even started the video saying the area had a reputation for people stealing stuff. I think it was probably just this asshole stealing from everyone.", "How did you not prosecute him? How did the cops not arrest him?", "It's not just from the ad rev, the secret to these guys killing the game is make a huge fan base and then sell them merch. He's hooked up with bunker branding ala demoranch who does his merch. T-shirts etc are so cheap to make and you sell a boatload for pure profit it's insane", "Exactly. These people should be prosecuted for theft regardless. Then, if the victim wants to press charges, those should be additional charges tacked on. \n\nThe reality is, a lot of people just want their stuff back and don't want to deal with additional drama that comes with filing charges, dealing with the police, court, etc.\n\nThat shouldn't prevent charges being brought to scumbags like this guy.", "Such a class act that YouTuber guy was, he could’ve been a Royal bitch about it. But damn, there’s still good people in this world. Glad that he got all of his stuff back and hopefully that POS never steals again.", "I’m more curious how beanie bro have that much money and wasn’t as concerned with his stuff stolen. 60 AirTag costs $1500 and those bows + trail cameras got to be a few thousands combined. Add in the ranch…I doNT know wtf am doing", "Least satisfying video I've ever seen, the thief learnt nothing and the owner looks like a mug, good job guys", "The police had a search warrant and I'm sure documented a lot of things in in their search. They will run that list with a list of other reported items from other police reports. That and his face and vehicles are plastered all over the internet.", "He probably got everything he has through stealing.", "Guy clearly seems like an alcoholic but can't confess that as it'll bring more charges and an arrest I'd imagine", "I thought only city people commit crimes? /s", "Yeah but it's even worse because these are the same people who think the punishment for shoplifting should be death or having your life ruined. These are the people who cheer when black kids have their lives ruined for stealing from a corner store. These are the people who cheered when Trump tweeted \"when the looting starts the shooting starts.\"\n\n> Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: that there must be in-groups, whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups, whom the law binds but does not protect.", "I didn’t say he had to \n\nBut he can choose to", "Literally every single time a person starts a sentence like that, the second part of the sentence will completely contradict the first part. For instance not long ago my dad said he was talking to a guy who said \"I'm not a racist, but\" and then launched into a diatribe about how \"n*****s were destroying this country.\" I don't understand why these people feel the need to pretend they aren't something when a second later they are going to prove they are what they just claimed not to be.", "He was probably doing it for the wife more than for the thief. And making sure the thief understood what was happening. \"Your wife knows you're a deadbeat now. That's worth the money to me\"", "Screw that guy. Throw him in the clink at least for a couple of days.\n\nMake him get vaccinated, that'll show him.", "I like how his story went from: I took a few pain pills and drank to I thought the stuff was abandoned. Didn't he come back multiple times... then tried to hide what he was doing by destroying security cameras.\n\nThe guy f*cked up, tried to deny it, and then only admitted it when they got a warrant and he was fully up sh*t creek... to bad he didn't also take a paddle.", "Rural America in a nutshell\n\nEveryone wants to be king of shit mountain & don’t care how they get there", "Yeah he doesn’t need the money, it makes him look better, this video alone is making way more, exposure to his channel (I’ve never heard of him). This is nothing but a win for him. \n\nI think he made the right call and handled himself well.", "We always got time for a story my friend", "I'm thinking more \"i won't take your money and allow you to look better to the public\"", "loved how his story changed to that after his story was \"I took some pain pills and had a few beers\". I wonder which is more true?", "Money already isn't backed by the government. If the government collapses, there won't be any real difference. \n\nBesides money slowly going out of circulation as it gets damaged or lost.", "Oh it was cringe af. I had to look away.", "This guy has a large following on YouTube and posted this entire interaction online for the world to see. The thief isn’t going to jail, but he did not get let off easy imo. His entire (probably small and talkative) community has seen this video and this guy is on everyone’s shitlist.", "Why does everything gotta be about race on this app", "Isn't a \"boomer\" born in like the 1950s? This guy doesn't look old.", "Caught on tape???? Really people still have vcr’s", "> \"OH I WAS ON PILLS AND HAD A BEER\"\n\nSounds like he's identified a substance abuse problem in himself.\n\nI mean, if he can't trust himself to do the right thing while under the influence, then he needs to choose between:\n\n1. don't put himself into a situation where he can't control his behavior (abstain)\n1. enjoy his pills and beer, and accept full responsibility for his actions while under the influence", "I'd love to know how much he's making off merch I think big bucks. Killing the game", "Projection. It's why they hate the idea of welfare and are convinced everyone who gets it is cheating the system to scrape as much as possible because *that's what they'd do*.", "I dunno, he might be. He said he moved there 8 months ago and then left 7 months ago because “all his neighbors are stupid.”\n\nWhen you dislike everyone around you, *maybe* you’re the problem and not everyone else. \n\nBut who knows. Just seems odd to leave a place after a month due to “all the neighbors”.", "It was a regular expirience where I was at. There's reasons why the Milwaukee police department has devices specifically for listening for gun shots as well. Gun shots happen so much there that the devices were a justified use of tax dollars. My guess is you love in one of the outskirts towns or one of the very few good neighborhoods in the city.", "And then operate a vehicle under the influence…", "Yes, I know he's a famous You Tuber and that's his job. My comment is about how so many people in these comments were saying how kind and merciful he was by refusing the repayment for his cameras. His show of mercy to the thief was with the intention of everyone seeing it on his channel, so I think the action lacks virtue, is nothing to be admired. Anyone might do something like that if they knew thousands of people are watching.\n\nIf we think of it from the older guy's perspective, he was probably blown away and humbled when he received that mercy. But now he will know that it was all just for show, an act for the cameras, and now his face is all over the internet. What would be more kind and merciful: not taking the money or not posting this video?", "https://youtu.be/Tmx1jpqv3RA\n\nI believe what he feels- is envy.", "Good point.", "lmao", "these are all the same folks that act like they are the biggest patriots and all about freedom and having your own shit and not letting anybody fuck with your property... and then they just steal shit because they are trash humans.", "Not stealing itself, the way it happens, but I’ve learned today that Americans haven’t had a single reading comprehension class in their life..", "He reminds me of if Rob Stark was king of the south.", "\"I took some pain pills and drank some beer and drive while under intoxication and stole your stuff. I'm a good guy\" \n\n\nThat's all I got from his excuses", "The DA isn’t bringing anybody to court with evidence in control of a victim who doesn’t want to prosecute.", "No, I don’t know it. What makes you think that in this situation other than the color of their skin, or is that all you are basing this off of?", "Hahah plus you can't take a chainsaw to the dash of a new truck", "It doesn’t, but the DA often takes the victim’s feelings into consideration (unfortunately).", "Now, honest question: would be the same story if the thief was black/latino ?", "This right here. Internet justice boners to see every punishment and consequence levied at this man don't take the real world into consideration. All of these people have lives they are living outside of the confines of this youtube video.", ">He provides entertainment that people enjoy he hasn't stolen from anyone...get over yourself. You have no evidence that any of what you say applies to him you just made it all up. \n\nI never said whistlindiesel was guilty of anything, so Idk what you're talking about. I'm a fan of his content, and generally think he's a good dude. I was referring to an economic advantage that people with money can exploit. My statement was about economic equality. Even if he did exploit the advantages of being rich, that's also not theft. It's just avoidance at society's expense.\n\n>I get it you are a failure in life but but hating on the success of others isn't going to fix it for you.\n\nFucking read those words again you dumb cunt. Go look up the word hypocrite, and learn some punctuation instead of thumb-shitting on strangers. My status in life has nothing to do with the discussion, so to even mention that shows your character.", "I agree. There's a lot of people here suggesting that he bought that ranch house, and his vehicles, with stolen property. Most likely he just keeps it.", "Was that a Grindr ping @ 6:05?", "I’m sorry, but even as a proud American myself that just sounds like dumb Americans…", "Yep. Well… he’s learned his lesson.", "Why would it even matter? Dogs are genetically designed to scavenge dead things. Makes perfect sense to turn dead farm animals into pet food.", "There's plenty of YouTubers out there spending money rationally. Being shit with money isn't just a YouTuber thing.", "Simply because someone in a rural area may have use for the materials is not a justification to steal, nor does it excuse it.", "You don't think his buddies are also loser thieves? They're probably popping pills and throwing back bud lights together laughing about how he got away without having to pay.", "Check out Andrew Camarata. At first it seems like it might be boring but it’s some entertaining shit I tell you what. And he’s like the antithesis of a YouTuber.", "Exactly. Cash after harvest", "Yes but those things can't easily be commoditized and instead are bartered. Bullets being a small(easily traded) and useful(key thing here) item that are plentiful so you CAN use it as a currency. After the initial fall and growth back to stability I could see switching to a FIAT currency(IOU, a loaf of bread, gold, etc.) emerging once again.", "Nah fuck that. This dude wasn’t sorry for shit. He was sorry he got caught. I would have pressed charges. Thieves belong in jail.", "> Fuck that guy. Punish that dude. At least his face is up for everyone to see (and his home which might not have been a good idea)\n\nThis comment [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmrph1/redneck_boomer_tries_to_steal_from_a_guy_gets/hppw4jm/) pretty well sums up why it was a better idea than the notion that I've quoted.", "It’s reddit. This sort of vindictive behavior and thinking is super common.", "Probably one of those boomer assholes that thinks anyone caught on the marijuana deservers to rot in prison too. \n\nI know far too many of those fucks here in Montana that think nothing of driving around absolutely hammered as horse shit on booze and pain killers, and think that its ok cause they're just having a good time, but anyone with like a 10th of a gram of weed should go to prison.", "Alot of big youtubers get 20-100k for sponsorships alone. And alot of them do them every other video. I wouldnt be suprised if hes making 500k a month.", "see... this... this right here... humanity does this shit... we just do whatever we want and justify it after... its nuts.. and in a system of laws that we must obey, but we are insulated from each other... this is what you get. insanity and fuck every single other person. but how can we go back to respecting our elders when technology has replaced them as the most efficient means of education? we can't just blindly respect those we know have destroyed out enviornment and refuse to change, but we also can't live in a world where so much vile putrid behaivor flourishes.", "Took a load of pain pills and got drunk enough to not know what they were doing and steal...\n\n*all while driving a car*?\n\nLike, that's even more of a shitty thing to do, it's such a bad excuse.", "True to both. Obviously generalized as blatant frivolous spending for content that pays more.", "Yeah, if it WAS true and he stole to make money for the forclosure before selling ALL that shit you got lying around?? Asshole.", "i wish the repubs really were the evil fascists you say, it would make voting for them all the sweeter.", "They're in Tennessee, but your point stands.", "I've lived and worked all over the city and various suburbs - Downtown, North Side, North Shore, Tosa, etc.\n\nAnd you are referring to the [same system](https://www.shotspotter.com/cities/) they have installed in San Diego, Miami, NYC and 90+ other cities?\n\nWhat you are describing are localized issues that literally every major city has.", "So he can also be charged with driving under the influence?", "To be fair I know some Trumpy yeehaw dipshits who would definitely not steal from you. People are all different.", "Lmao, god you must live a sheltered life. Every asshole in the world goes one of two routes when confronted: Either deny deny deny or tug on the heartstrings of your victim to get sympathy FROM YOUR VICTIM. Literally the easiest thing to do is admit some fault and act humble. And it convinces lots of people - you included.\n\nIf he really felt so bad, why'd he do it in the first place?\n\nWatch interviews with serial criminals (serial killer interviews are the best) if you want to see more of this type of manipulation.\n\nGuarantee you he's not going to \"really think about his actions later\". As soon as he got off camera, he was probably laughing to himself about how he got off with no consequences and \"tricked the idiot youtuber\"", "Nice retort", "If this were CA, the Sheriff would have told the victim that stealing is not a crime and then arrested him for wasting their time.", "Horses aren't a sign that you have money. Horses is a sign that they *had* money.", " Ahhhh, MMMMM DELICIOUS KARMA", "This is one (of many) reason why I think racists are ridiculous. They act like if only white people existed, crime would magically disappear. Sure, a lesser population density of rural areas might decrease the likelihood of experiencing crime or give the impression of less crime, but everybody is capable of stealing or other crimes.", "Exactly this. These are selfish, myopic people. They want to eat their cake and have it too. AKA, regularly voting Republicans.", "I'm sure he's a really great guy, but he's a youtuber, and an influencer. These people know that image is everything. Forgiving that money will definitely pay off many thousands of times.", "Watching him fuck up that near mint classic Hilux was excruciating. But that truck was a fighter.", "I thought I was a good person until WD gave the lady back the money. WD you are a better man than me.", "It's up to the victim in this case to press charges.", "Yeah this guy doesn't even try to hide it either. He literally sells a T-shirt for $1000 that just says \"this shirt cost $1000\"", "It is honestly the boomer mentality. Many will take and take even when they are so incredibly well off, even if it means hurting other people and their families. Sadly that mentality has resulted in irreversible damage to the earth and the extreme wealth disparity and inequality. The only thing that can save us now is a technological breakthrough most likely from AGI... And then we are toying with the possible dangers of a rogue singularity... We're playing chicken with destiny, it's going to be a wild ride for the next few generations...", "Absolutely. But I think the problem here is that the victim is a YouTube personality. He stands to gain way more by coming out of this looking like a really good guy. I don't want to make it seem like he's doing it for selfish reasons, but there are hundreds of influencers on tick tock who do just that they go around making donations or doing nice things for people on video for personal gain", "Eh, theyd rather he do this than make them go through all the paperwork IMO.", "He admits to driving impaired pretty much, lmao. This guy clearly does not have any common sense. How is he this well-off? Inheritance? Should have pressed charges after getting all of this guy's bullshit on video.", "This was so great, go whistlindiesel!", "Plot twist: the house was stolen too", "Damn the second he started throwing around that sob story I woulda changed my mind on pressing charges.", "> He seemed genuinely remorseful\n\nhe fooled you", "Just a reminder, he is going to make millions of dollars from this video over time. He obviously cares more about principles and the sentimental items than the money. I bet he never intended to keep the money.", "Right?! Not pushing felony charges on this guy is an injustice in itself. You know this piece of shit has been stealing for decades and hits hasn’t gotten caught, or been charged, because of compassion. I think the YouTube guy let him off more for internet points/ views than compassion though.", "I guarantee the one who can defend shipping containers full of canned goods will be king.", "I live on a larger rural property, my wife would have no idea if I brought home atv ramps or a bow", "Precisely why they didn't go further. If he messes around again he's going to jail and he's now a pariah. Itll be something else if he tries going to church after all this.", "Oh really? I swear I saw another video of this kid where he said he was in Alabama", "That’s why whistle said he’d press charges if it helps others… bc ya you do want to forgive the dude but also, without pressing charges he might be able to fuck over other people", "That killed me - I thought it was about to be a boring ass sponsorship and instead it was a straight roast session.", "he just snitched on himself for taking what were probably some form of narcotics and drinking, then going driving around before burglarizing his neighbor's property lmao. brilliant.", "Nope. Someone’s spending 4 years in prison for stealing my laptop (while I slept).", "Good ol’ boys.", "Yeah, I agree actually. Points that I didn't consider at all.\n\nEdit: thanks for sharing", "Not all thieves operate the same. Actual organized burglar crews that plan and hit houses are completely in their right mind and will most definitely take into account whether or not the homeowners might be armed or not when casing a house. \n\nGranted, most of those types of criminals are very risk averse and will usually only hit houses when no one is home. But knowing if the owners have weapons can definitely discourage (or encourage) them. \n\nThis notion that every potential thief is some half cocked methhead just robbing houses at random is dumb. For some people it’s like an occupation.", "Ok so she didn't exactly punch her...\n\nMy SIL is from Bushwick (hood in NYC of you're not familiar) but always worked her ass off to do something with herself. She was her HS valedictorian, etc. A lot of her family still had that hood streak though and there are definitely times the hood comes out of her too. \n\nSo situation was her younger cousin got pregnant while she was in HS. She'd been admitted to the hospital bc of some issue w her pregnancy and my SIL went to visit her there. She was outside of the room doing something on her phone, sending a text or w.e, and hears her cousin in the room talking on her phone. The cousin was supposedly (I wasn't there so this is just what I heard from SIL) talking to her friend and being really flippant about how she'd been admitted bc the baby was really underweight but she didn't give a f and blah blah some other stuff along those lines. My SIL hears this, flys into a rage about how this girl cares so little for this baby that she's going to force into the world that she goes in, snatches the phone from her hand (it was the hospital phone from the bedside not a cell phone) and starts beating the shit out of her face with it while screaming at her about being a dumb bitch whos welcome to ruin her own life but needs to do right by the baby. The cousin is yelling too so a nurse comes in, trys to separate them, calls the cops who're in the hospital to come and that's that. The cousin said she didn't want to press charges (I think the aunt talked her out of it) but the state still pursed. She ended up pleading out and avoided the felony but spent an insane amount on the lawyer bc they didn't trust the public defender to handle it. \n\nQuick side story while you're here. A close friend of me and my brother was dating this girl for a long time, then she decides she wants to try being gay and breaks up w him. He's at my parents house telling us about the break up, and we also haven't liked her in a while bc of plenty of other stuff about her, and I say to him \"dude I'm telling you rn you get back w this girl I'm going to slap you right in the face. I want us to be clear about it and don't you dare try to pop off at me after bc you're gonna have it coming.\" That's that and then wtf do you know a bunch of months later he's at our house and says he got back w her I'm like this mofo right here. He goes look it is what it is I know I got a slap coming so let's get this done w. I look at him and go you know what man I'm disappointed in you and I'm not going to slap you. My SIL who's there w us (she was there for the first conversation too) goes oh yea?? Then I'll do it for you and gorilla slaps him across the face. It happened so fast and was so surprising we all stood there for a sec like wtf just happened lolol\n\nYea she's a character. I hope you've enjoyed these stories. It's been a while since I've thought about them so I'm glad I had a chance to tell them again :)", "It's amazing how little I cared for listening to his BS explanation. Like, giving excuses is just making it worse.", "Same. Would definitely have pressed charges. Fuck your feelings. \nOne thing I learned from my cellies during my stint in jail is that it’s almost never the first time someone committed that crime.", "Yeah that was amazing. Sucks that he ruined really expensive cameras though...", "FWIW the youtuber sold that property and lives somewhere else, but I think he just doesn't want to send the man to jail. The public shaming is enough for him, hes already made the guys lige difficult enough. Send him to jail and that could mean terrible things for a bunch of his family, no need to have that on your conscience. \n\nAlso by encouraging the county not to press their own charges this gets everything squared away as quickly as possible. Nothing needs to be taken in as evidence, the youtube can leave town and doesn't have to worry about court dates or speaking with attorneys.", "You bashing him makes you two indistinguishable.", "This is worse then getting arrested. This has been viewed millions of times now.", "I know the same system is in other places I was referring to it because if milwaukee was free of gunshots they wouldn't of bothered with installing it. Just because you have never experienced the gunshots yourself doesn't mean others haven't.", "Because it’s relevant and it’s insane that this guy literally isn’t even charged?\n\nIt’s just blatant evidence of what is going on but you’re afraid to see it or admit it.", "How is it relevant?", "particularly weird since the thief's family also is doing fine - that argument isn't great but makes more sense if you're super poor.", "Whistlindiesel is the best channel on YouTube! Subscribe! Good content gang!", "I love the wanna be merciless thing people do on Reddit when really they're just making assumptions", "Carpenters over here make BANK if you can get on with a union. I knew a guy making $120,000 a year as a union carpenter. I don't know if that's typical but he's the only one I knew. \n\nWarehouse workers for the Walmart distribution center start at $19.50-21.50 depending on the shift assigned. Forklift operators at the Miracle-Gro plant start off at $21.30. Those are just a couple pulled off of current local job listings.\n\nIn a lot of places in the country that wouldn't seem like a lot, but I supported a family of 3 off $20 an hour in a 2 bedroom house with 2 cars and enough left over to live comfortably.", "based on his youtube stats alone, his annual income from his channel is somewhere between 1 and 2 million a year. he's been about that size for going on 3 years now it seems like, and even before that he had to have been pulling like, $300,000+ from youtube while he was also still doing whatever his other job was (seems like maybe construction/contractor work or something). \n\nhe owns a ton of land, and if you include the vehicles he owns for work and his youtube channel (which he surely owns outright for the most part), he probably has a net worth of close to $1.5million in vehicles alone. \n\nhis merch probably brings in about $50,000/yr as well. \n\nand all of that would appear to be ON TOP of what he actually does as a day job... again, I'm not certain, but it definitely seems like he still manages some kind of contractor stuff.", "Gotta hunt those wild snausages.", "Not like \"I had a couple of beers\" but like \"drinking and taking pain pills and driving\". Jeez.", "He’s throwing that out bc that skid loader is gone ✌️ \n\n\nAlso, even if it does turn up and he has to pay that out it’s probably a tax deductible business write off", "lets not forget the time he demolished a toyota hilux by HAVING IT AIR LIFTED BY CARGO HELICOPTER to drop it from like 5,000 feet in the desert... a helicopter that cost them like like $100,000 per hour to rent the services of.", "Lol that wasn't even a nice shirt either smh Some of his merch is awesome though, the new mm hoody is 🔥", "Like the fact that your drunk and on pills is supposed to make us feel sorry for you?", "It is dumb. Just shooting at someone on your property (whether legal in your state or not) is just idiotic. You have no idea why they are there and haven’t given them any real chance. \n\nNow, shooting at or near someone that’s actively trying to break a window/door or snooping around close to the house? Definitely reasonable.", "Yeah, people do the same with the Bible. I suppose it’s all a matter of what guidelines you *want* to have I suppose. Makes me think about what I would swear on if I ever went into holding a political office. Might swear on Harry Potter tbh", "WhistlinDiesel is a tool but you have to give it up for being tech savvy around a bunch of dumb rednecks.", "“Do not steal from me I will walk up to your fucking front door”\n\n\n*stays in his truck the entire time*", "Not disagreeing with that - guns, and crime as a whole, are still a major problem in Milwaukee, as they are in many other cities. \n\nJust offering a counter viewpoint to yours to help clarify that the crime isn't rampant like a warzone here and most people in the city never experience it in their daily lives. I'm sorry you had to.", "To be fair it’s a house and acres of land in the rural south it looks like. My comment stands", "At least he wore a mask tho", "WD didn't want to press charges, so there's not really any reason to arrest him unless they found him breaking some kind of other laws", "Ah that makes sense. I was trying to figure out who has $1400 cash on hand (presumably more).", "Fuck that thief and he should 100% press charges. He was lying to his face at the end when he was coming clean. It was straight up theft. He probably stole from others in the area as well.", "I'm jealous. Can't get work there, plus all my family lives on the coast, but low cost of living and beautiful land is the dream!", "When he called them he said nothing about him being \"a wealthy young white man\", he simply said he had camera footage of the guy stealing and the cars he used and he was at the house of the thief, you're being a lowlife with your presumptions.", "Like the sorting hat but for the law.. neat.", "Damn you guys are getting a cord of wood for $100 where you’re at? Sign me up lmao.", "But he said his excuses weren’t excuses?!", "I wish we could reject the entire notion of giving cohorts of people born within arbitrarily selected twenty year windows stupid nicknames and assigning them shitty stereotypical characteristics.", "How is it not? We’re watching a video explicitly about a guy committing multiple felony thefts/burglaries, yet is let go with a simple apology.\n\nIt’s hilarious.", "Curious what people would do if this were their spouse.\n\nIf it were mine, I'd divorce them instantly.", "i want to know why hes offering 300k for finding his dads 30k skid loader (i think)", "oi mate i spent the whole video being mad at the dude but read your replies and i know people are doubling down out here but i just want to say i think you see a little deeper into things than others are willing to, and i say that with a high regard. You seem like a very compassionate person and I don't think it's naivety, I think it takes some lived experiences and rough times to come to the conclusions that you are drawing here. Cheers.", "Want to make a little money? Start with a lot of money and buy a horse.", "I think the best part of this, is that he gave the money back, honor and pride are big things in rural communities, the people I grew up with would rather die than lose face like that. That's why he keeps insisting that he's in a good place financially. Having someone give that money back especially a younger man, you can see his face, he can't take it.", "Lie", "In my experience, people that need to scrap together money don't have thousands of it sitting around inside their home.\n\nHaving 1400 on-hand, on a sizable anchorage, indicates this guy is on the rich side. That would be life changing amounts of money for many.", "I can't wait for part 2 where they find the skid loader.", "“Model citizen”", "Check out his youtube channel called WhistlinDeisel.\nHe's a millionaire.", "I would’ve made that guy kiss my shoes in front of his wife. Fuck that guy", "so do i. it's a square-rectangle situation... but I guarantee that this guy is the most outspoken \"patriot\" type guy ever who believes in \"personal responsibility\" and \"working hard to support yourself.\"\n\nand then just takes some pain meds, gets drunk, and fucking steals shit from his neighbors lol.", "Yep. Revenge feels sweetest when you know you still want it after your initial wave of anger has settled.", "Hey thanks man, I really appreciate that", "God damn this is so satisfying.\n\nFuck that guy and his fake ass tears and his lame excuses. He did it with intent, he knows what he did and he wanted to do it. He's just humiliated and he should be. We've had stuff stolen over the years and the anguish of it has been immeasurable. We've caught some people and some people have gotten away with it. I have spent so much time looking at security footage because of these selfish as fuck pieces of shit. And we've been left in the dark on the police side not knowing what people have been charged with after I've given evidence.\n\nAnd the Youtuber is right, you're the one that has to do all this legwork. The more work you do and supply it to the police the better chances you have. Good on him for staying on top of it.", "It’s not relevant because race wasn’t mentioned once in the entire video. And you’re avoiding the question because you know I’m right", "That's exactly what I was thinking this whole video. I get why people take amazon packages off my porch in suburbia - but it seems way more dangerous to do that in farm country walking on to someone's actual property.", "I don't think YouTube is his only source of income. Idk what else he does, I've seen a lot of his videos and I don't think he's ever mentioned anyother business. He doesn't have many/any sponsors that I remember.", "Whistlin dumbass is a covid denying piece of shit.", "Dude his “I will find you mr skidd loader thief” scared me and idk what the fucj a skid loader even is", "You can’t but the gas Hilux is essentially the same exact vehicle as the Toyota Tacoma in the US. Same engine and everything. \n\nIt’s just the one with the Diesel engine that was never sold in the US.", "I wonder if the cops could have catalogued all the stuff in the garage and checked against theft reports. That jackass is only sorry about getting caught this time.", "He may have an addiction to maintain, and not have much cash. People can have a lot of shit and still be cash poor. That's not an excuse, by the way.", "That's what I'm thinking, this wasn't a 'one of' escapade. The sheriff should do a deeper dive there, the place is probably full of stuff he's stolen over the years.", "Depends on the town I guess. And yeah it would definitely depend on if they liked the YouTuber before or not. He did say that everyone in that area are a bunch of redneck idiots so that might change things lmao \n\nI used to live in a small town. There was this guy who apparently used to do meth and steal stuff to feed his addiction like 15 years before I lived there. He was clean while I lived there as far as I know, seemed like just a regular dude. But you bet your ass *everyone* told me that he used to be a methhead and steal stuff when his name came up in conversation.", "I dunno. He has a wonderful house, multiple garages, a huge property and yet he feels entitled to more? \n\nFeels pretty boomer to me.", "That's all I could think about haha. Church is gonna be rough for his family. Feel for his wife.", "How often do courts subpoena the victim for evidence though? My understanding is \"I don't want to press charges\" is equivalent to \"I'm not going to cooperate with law enforcement and hand over evidence and definitely won't testify\" which makes a lot of cases annoying to prosecute, so they don't.", "People go on social media to often times vent off the toxicity in their personality online rather than spread it to the people directly around them in real life. It doesn't have to be that way, but reddit is largely that way. This site is a haven for mob mentality and group think; I would argue it's the worst site there is for it. It has been that way at least since the Boston bombings, so this can't be blamed on the fact that like 90% of content on here are guerilla marketing campaigns and astroturfing. It's something inherently wrong with this website.", "Opensecrets shows they spend about 70k a year on lobbying..\n\nAlso don't they lobby for pet food safety?", "That's what religion is for, if anything he will go to church and be forgiven. Just like that any sense of guilt is gone.", "Race was the primary factor for why he wasn’t arrested. You’re just a lil too racist to want to admit it, because you know I’m right", "Or, like me, they were taught that credit is a tool that you can abuse. What they never explained was that I’d be fucked for abusing it, just like they were. Fucking idiot assholes. \n\nMy parents are pants-on-head retarded when it comes to finances, and so am I because the only free, easy to access financial education comes from your parents. \n\nYes, as an adult it’s my responsibility to educate myself, but it’s fucking hard to understand shit you read in the internet. Especially when you have no actual guidance on the subject. I’ve tried and changed a couple of habits, but fuck man. It’s hard when you don’t have someone to teach you. \n\nI’m literally drowning in petty debt and the anxiety from it makes me just run from it and pretend it’s not there. Another awesome coping method my parents taught me. \n\nThanks mom and dad. You’re the best", "No not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying there should be fair and just consequences for your actions, and the victims of your crimes should have a say in that. If the victim is perfectly happy with just getting their stuff back and asks the officers to not charge the person who wronged them, then I don’t see a problem with that. If the victim believes they should be arrested and charged then they should take that into consideration as well and go that route. But remember that if you charge someone when the victim specifically didn’t want you to because they felt the restorative justice worked, you’re putting the victim in the position to go back to court several times, months later, to deal with this situation again during the trial. People should face reasonable consequences for their crimes. And if the victim believe that, in this very specific circumstance, the restoration of his property is enough, then that’s fine. If not, then they should absolutely be prosecuted by the state to face punishment.", "Being a city person my whole life this legitimately surprised me reading this comment. I would’ve figured the opposite.", "Probably , the people with so much property", "Now I’m racist. Got it. Happy holidays", "Why did he not press charges against this guy for intentional felony grand theft? You know this isn’t the first time or last time this guy has done this.", "Dudes a better man than me for letting him off so easy! . Ida said charge his fucking ass. He knew damn well what he was doing then tried to cover it up too!", "And their vote is among gerrymandered districts and the electoral college. \n\nTheir vote is stronger than others. It is horrible that some votes are weaker. Double that horror since it is a redneck moron who votes against his own interests.", "That’s not 100% boomer mentality, that’s just the mentality of any older generation reacting to newer generations and their more modern lifestyle. It will be gen x at some point in the future and it will be millennials at some point too.", "Letting off the perp means future victims. Yes it feels bad to fuck Someone off to jail, but it is necessary for ppl like that. They should not be in society.", "Redneck wearing mask in the country away from other people = guilty", "its the american way.", "Something something coveting oxes", "Stop romanticizing a felony thief.", "It's a label that the labelee self-identifies with, typically loud and proud of it, so I'm not seeing the problem", "100% true", "Bullshit.", "\"Somebody stole my barn!\"", "Did the white officer walk? No, he faced trial and was punished for his actions. Your point doesn’t make any sense. Are you suggesting that white people do not get arrested?", "A guy in my neighborhood roams around stealing shit all the time and is a repeat offender. Police call him by his nickname “Happy” since he is always in and out of the system. He stole a brand new TV off of my front porch after delivery guy showed up unannounced while I was away from home. \n\nDetective said it “wasn’t worth my time” to press charges after they retrieved the TV. A family member of the guy came and begged me to press charges because they are fed up with his bullshit. Was pretty blown away that a detective didn’t think it was worth pursuing when it was an open and shut case. \n\nWhat the fuck are we even paying for?", "Those are just regulations and we don’t need those right? That’s what the last guy said anyway 🤷🏼‍♂️", "Reminds me of the start of Ozark", "Some ppl are allowed so much grace and a pass must be nice! Oh yea this guy should be arrested theft, robbery, vandalism, dui. Yeezus get this criminal off the streets. My god! 😅", "He steals, drives, and votes while on pills and drunk.", "That's why I signed up for starlink", "Guy with a house like that who can get $1400 cash that quickly isn't going to be hurt by the money.\n\nThere wasn't enough stolen to be worth the state's time and energy prosecuting him, and even if he were found guilty he'd just get community service and end up feeling like a victim over it. \n\nMaking him feel guilty and embarrassing him in front of the wife is probably the most effective thing they can do to him. Losing the respect of the most important person in your life is horrible, and by removing the legal stuff there's nothing to distract him from the shame.", "Sounds like the joke about how to make a small fortune in the rocket business: start with a large fortune.", "You'd *better.* ;)", "I mean the sheriffs are wearing uniforms that say Rutherford County Tennessee, and he says he moved up there and then moved away again.", "And admitted to DUI", "Because 99% of the general public has no clue how the stock market or any investment works. They see it as too complicated to figure out. \n\nFor someone who doesnt understand finance at a higher level, paying for everything cash outright and avoiding debt seems like the “wise” thing to do. I had tons of authority figures like teachers, people on the news, friends of parents etc who said things like that when I was a kid. “Avoid debt” “never use a credit card” “if you dont have the money to buy it outright you cant afford it.” In hindsight you realize that none of these people are usually wealthy or if they are its because they stumbled into something.\n\nOnce you figure out how the stock market works, you realize things are completely different than what surface level wisdom would infer. People dont understand risk and they think any risk is bad.", "It really is, I was responding to his posts in the thread in general.", "Especially if it turned into a state case. For example most if not all domestic violence charges are by the state and not the victim, so it becomes \"State of X v. Abuser\" instead of Victim v. Abuser.", "Absolute legend. That cop in the camo top was blown away that he refused the money, I knew he was gonna mention something at the end. \"Hey you're a stand up guy, man\"", "Old man was a criminal. But i think it’s disingenuous to let him off and then trash him on social media. Would have been better off if you just laid into him at the time and then post this.", "Justice porn", "Hey its whistlin diesel", "It’s mildly derogatory", "Thief is a registered Republican - color me shocked", "\"Their customer service is great and they brag about that. Their products are not great and they do not brag about it \"", "You think he would be better at it with all those years of experience. \n\nThere are cameras everywhere nowadays and I don’t care because I don’t do anything worthy of recording beyond picking my underwear out of my butt crack.", "Oh man, 3 million people just watched this guy say \"don't steal my stuff, I will catch you.\"", "Wow did he only get a slap on the wrist for stealing? Couldn’t the State still press criminal charges on him even though he settled it personally by returning the stuff?", "teenagers that can't be tried as adults weren't charged? Fascinating", "Karmic retribution, but my god the audio editing in that video. The beeps for swearing was ridiculously loud, and what was with the **occasionally cranked levels?**", "Only thing this dude is sorry about is getting caught. He had his chance to come clean with nothing happening and he didn’t. Hopefully he also has to pay for the sheriff department’s time and fees in getting a warrant to search for the stolen goods. Be really funny if they pressed charges for it. Only reason he showed them where stuff was is so they don’t keep searching and find more stuff to charge him with. Hopefully they did that anyway", "That's not where my mind went, it went to the youtuber being brown and talking funny. Would they have have gotten a warrant in 20 minutes?", "The fuck is your trashy title trying to say, buddy? They're all rednecks. Every single person who makes a noise in this video is a hick. That is the region they live in. You're not achieving anything by mentioning it.", "And then you drive while intoxicated and elderly. Sooner or later that’s going to end badly.", "I mean, there are fees like tax, title, licensing and dealer processing, but those are charged on every deal.\n\nNo, cash gives you no better deal than finance. In fact, we actually hate cash deals at the dealer level. See, banks pay us for sending financing to them. With our manufacturer, it's usually a $100 or $200 \"flat.\" With credit unions we get a fixed \"reserve\" that's something like 2% of the amount financed, and with the banks (Cap One, BofA) we can \"hold points\" and get paid on that. So, holding points happens because banks give us a minimum \"sell rate\" (the minimum interest the bank will charge) and the maximum \"buy rate\" (the maximum interest the bank will charge) we then have the option of contracting on a rate anywhere between the buy and sell and then we get paid a portion of the bank's increased profit. \n\nThis is why I always tell people to get their own financing from their own bank first, the see if the dealer can beat it. I know it sounds weird to say that we can essentially mark up your rate, but here's how it tends to play out for my customers. John comes in with an approval from his credit union at 5.49% for 72 months because his credit isn't stellar and he's in tier two three. Credit unions really only care about score for determining rate. However, he has a paid off trade or is outting a chunk of change down.\n\nSee, banks look at a lot more than the score when determining rate, and one of the biggest factors is Loan To Value Percentage or LTV%. So, the lower the LTV, the less risky thelam is from the banks perspective (basically, the less likely they at to lose money on a repo), and the better rate they'll give. So, we shotgun the application to our six or seven major banks we're partners with. Santander won't touch him because Santander is weird like that sometimes, BofA won't touch him because he had a loan with them ten years ago and took them down in a bankruptcy (even though it's off his credit, a lot of banks internally track that), but Capital One approves him at a whopping 1.29% @ 72mo which is even better than I get on a promotional rate from my manufacturer.\n\nSo, F&I holds two points (the most we can hold), contracts him at a 3.29%. Customer gets a lower rate than he'd get on his own (because let's face it, most customers arent going to apply to more than 1 or 2 lenders), the bank makes extra profit, and we make money as well. Now, why should we make money? Well, the programs we use to call in the deals cost money to license, the regulatory compliance for collecting, processing, and storing (for seven years) that personal information costs money, as does the training for our F&I guys, and so on. Beyond that, we send millions of dollars a year to these banks, and they want to keep us happy. Let's say guy was buying a new car, and wanted the 0.9% special rate, but his credit score is a 675 where Honda requires a 680 for special rates. On the other hand, this guy has a perfect paid auto loan (just not from Honda), so, one of our finance managers can call and pitch the case to the loan buyer that this guy paid his last autoloan perfectly, and the only reason his score is so low is because of some medical debt. So it's safe to make an exception and do a \"tier bump\" to get him the special rate. An average customer isn't important enough to even *get* a loan buyer on the phone, nevermind get an exception, nor does the average consumer have the experience to even know how to pitch their case.\n\nSo Ya, lots of moving parts.", "The neighbor did too. Chances are the guy is a local celebrity.", "¿Porque no los dos? I can see why both reasons would have hastened the sheriffs", "I worked at a country club… all these millionaires and rich people… they get their kicks by stealing cheap shit.. no joke", "Definitely be supportive of your kids and stuff, but also consider that for every 1 guy that makes any money on their channel (not a livable amount, ANY money at all), there's 1,000 that pour their hearts and souls into their channels and get nothing back from it.\n\nIt's like seeing how much Tom Cruise makes and then encouraging your kids to take up acting. If they want to do it, let them, and encourage them to be themselves, but also set some expectations that it's a long, difficult road that's as much luck as anything else.", "being that you're Willem Dafoe's Huge Cock, I think its safe to say you're very familiar what it feels like to be a local celebrity...am I right?", "We’re in your walls…", "Nothing lower than a neighbor that steals. Fuck that guy so hard. He didn’t deserve to get off Scott free because you know he’s done it before. Thug piece of shit criminal.", "Lmao, no response", "This guys is a cuck. and none of them of them are boomers.\n\nSorry zoomer", "Don’t know what you don’t understand about “not pressing charges”", "I get what you're saying, but legally it's usually in one's best interest to only be as cooperative as required by law.\n\nA search warrant narrows the scope of the investigation, likely to just the stuff that WhistlinDiesel identified as stolen. Of course law enforcement can pick up on other things that are in plain sight, but if he had let them search his property warrantless they were free to dig into anything they wanted to. Sheriff sees an antique gun? It could've been handed down through generations completely legally, but now it's seized as potential evidence and he might not ever get it back. Medicine cabinet wouldn't have kept any of WisthlinDiesel's belongings, but they just found a bottle of pain pills that might not have even been in his name.\n\nHe's very fortunate his second gambit paid off here, but his first one didn't. He thought he'd be able to talk his way out of suspicion, then play lawyer. He should've exercised his right to remain silent and not let the sheriffs on his property at all without a warrant. It wouldn't have stopped them from getting one and executing it, but if his apologizing hadn't worked, he wouldn't have further incriminated himself when it came time for trial. Hell, he could've said something to inadvertently incriminate his wife, too. All the other replies to you are pointing out he confessed to DUI.\n\nAnd yeah, he's clearly guilty as sin. All of us want WhistlinDiesel to get his stuff back, undamaged. None of us would want him to get away scot-free, but doing what's legally in his best interest can make all the difference between going to jail for years versus probation, rehab, and/or even a shorter stint.", "No that was the best part! It was such a power move", "Also there's a good chance the trail cams could be fixed up with a bit of acetone, or a new lens. Especially if he'd already done so it'd look bad to take the full amount.", "Pretty sure being outed publicly to millions of people, including everyone around where he lives is worse than any charge he woulda got lol", "How does this relate to the fact that you can't read?", "There are a ton of factors going into it. I have a brother who used to be in the scene with a lot of massive Youtubers that most people have heard of if you're in the gaming community. Community engagement, average views per video on the channel, amount of advertisements, etc. This guy averages over 2 million per video posting 4 videos per month (based off of a quick look). Advertisers and sponsors love consistency more than anything.\n\nAlso, I think a lot of his money comes from merch as well. Most successful Youtubers make a killing off of merch sales.", "My grandfather has been a scumbag his whole life skimping on paying people in his Construction company, stealing tools and materials fucking people over, out and out scum bag, he lives on a 40 acre property that looks similar to this. \n\nLet's not act like people that have nice stuff aren't just as likely to be scumbags in both how they work and in thier day to day life", "I don't trust any \"leader of religion\" to be well-grounded in reality.", "Don't really want to get more into it but I think the two party system disenfranchises a lot of voters. Take 2016 for example, I knew a lot of people that didn't vote that year thanks to the awful candidates. We need to abolish the two party system and start adopting stuff like ranked choice voting.", "> you witness Jim Bob murder someone unless you're married to him, or you're part of the murder \n\n\nOr part of the defense's legal team..", "Whistlin' Diesel is a plague on us all. I wish that stupid kid would stop doing... things.", "Dollar bet the dude rants about how white privilege isn’t real", "I'll preface with I am not an economist. I just have first hand experiences that has drawn conclusions.\n\n>you can't get mad at them for denying loans to low income people with bad credit, and then get mad at them for approving loans to the same low income/bad credit borrowers at high interest to cover the risk and doing whatever is in their power when the borrowers eventually are unable or unwilling to pay back the loan.\n\nI don't, that's just economics. What bothers me is how biased the terms are.\nIf your credit rating is the same, your interest rates should be as well. But that risk is calculated mostly on assets, rather than merit. I just think merit should be the primary consideration. Trust should be the focus, not just covering your ass if they default.\n\nTypically (obviously generalizing) a person with lots of assets is assumed to be responsible, and assumed they will pay back a loan. So then they are given benefit of the doubt and receive the rewards, when really there's no evidence to prove they will ever pay it. There's plenty of wealthy people that are well known to rack up massive debt with no intent to ever pay. Using bankruptcy and court litigation to bypass the responsibility. If all a lender is worried about is whether borrowers have enough assets to cover the loan, they're approving bad loans on an assumption, rather than contextual data. Hello great recession.\n\nWhereas a person without lots of assets for whatever reason, is considered more of a risk even if contextually they are a better borrower. You just need to have money, before they lend money. This presents an unfair disadvantage, until you basically pass the threshold of no longer actually needing the funds. \n\n>Are they predatory? Some certainly are. But if you walk away from the loan office all happy at the lump sum in your pocket with no thoughts as to how you're going to pay it back or what will happen if you don't, that's your fault.\n\nAgreed. Sub-prime lending shouldn't be allowed any more than buy borrow die. It's literally the opposite side of my point: Taking advantage of folks without the means to do anything is unethical, even if legal. So in that situation, bad borrowers shouldn't be allowed to borrow at all, rather than just lending at unpayable interest rates.\n\nSo as an example: 2 creators of the same demographic. Same income stream, same ability to repay. Same credit score, and same business plan. Both asking for a 50k startup loan.\nThe difference is one needs the loan because they have no assets to liquidate. The other needs the loan to prove his worth to daddums, instead of just selling the BMW.\nDo they walk out with the same lending terms? I would have to see it to believe.", "Yeah man. His RV alone is worth the price of a small house. What in the fuck", "Just because he *said* he wasn't making excuses doesn't mean he wasn't making excuses. In fact \"No excuses\" is exactly what I would expect someone making excuses to say. He wasn't just \"explaining\" his actions, he was appealing for sympathy. I don't believe for one fucking second this man \"convinced himself he wasn't doing anything wrong.\" He planned it out. That's why he spray painted the cameras, concealed his identity, and tried to hide everything when confronted with his wrongdoing. If he truly believed he wasn't doing anything wrong, he would not have taken all those precautions because, what for? He's not doing anything wrong. \n\nSo he's making excuses, and you fell for them.", "You don’t steal from people in the park.", "You gotta know who Whilstin Diesel is. He is a multimillionaire and doesn't care about $1,400 he just loves putting people in their place. Getting all this on camera is worth way more to him on YouTube sales anyways", "I bet if the guy was black he'd be getting arrested and charged no matter what, even for driving intoxicated for revealing he was drinking and on pain pills.", "The only reason he's not in jail is because he's friends with cops. Kid is a total piece of shit.", "This definitely wasn't the first time he got caught. He managed to talk his way out of what was likely felony theft, which isn't something you can easily just pull out of your ass.\n\nThat level of manipulation comes from practice.", "Is it just me or who else thinks the thief is more of a Gen-Xer, not a Boomer?", "It doesn't work because he never would have ever had any of these feelings if he wasn't caught.\n\nThose aren't the reasons because he would have known about them when he was doing it. This is him justifying it to himself and providing reasons that aren't I'm a piece of shit that stole all that stuff.\n\nIntrospection doesn't just materialize when the detectives find the stuff you were hiding and the detectives give you an opportunity to avoid jail by giving the stuff back.", "Except the Hilux has a completely different frame design, suspension, and hauling capacity. Those are pretty significant differences when it comes to actually using them for what they are designed for.", "Straight up. He knew exactly what he was up to. Serial thief who has been getting away with it.", "He'd be getting arrested.", "Lotta good pr for a YouTuber though", "Because this sort of people gaslight, obstruct and project like nobody's business, making their hypocrisy and righteous indignation particularly grating.", "Obviously, the pet food industry isn't controlling the entire country. But they *do* spend significant money influencing the government to make favourable decisions regarding their industry. [Mars Petcare Inc., just a single corporation, averaged around $2m spent on lobbying per year for the last 20 years](https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/summary?cycle=2020&id=D000042123). That ain't charity. They're making a profit on that expenditure somehow.", "He got a lot of great justice porn content off this guy + got his stuff back. More than 3 million views in 2 days after posting it.", "Ya, I see this especially with referrals. If I sell parents and kids a car, about 75% of the time their scores are within 20 points of each other.\n\nPersonally? I have terrible impulse control on purchasing things, so my fiance and I budget, she let's me know each paycheck what my \"fun money\" is for the two weeks, and I transfer the rest of my check into our joint account. I leave my credit cards at home, and only take them with me when I'm going to buy a specific thing that we've talked about putting on the card. I know it's suboptimal versus playing the \"points and rewards\" game, and is also suboptimal for building credit (you're supposed to carry a 30% revolving balance according to the bureaus), but I *never* want to feel like my credit card debt is out of control ever again, and I don't trust myself with having them in my wallet, thank you very much.\n\nLook into debt consolidation, is my advice, but find some good reviews online first. A ton of those companies are skeezy as hell and take advantage of people, but the few good ones are life savers. You can also try calling your creditors and try to negotiate down your debts as part of a repayment plan. The last thing your creditors want is for you to go and file a bankruptcy, because they're going to lose a lot of money that way. A lot of them would rather take a negotiated settlement.", "That’s just pure nonsense, who would even want that stuff.", "I think this is the most practical sentiment in this thread. I see a lot of arguing over how the thief’s feeling rn, but truth is it’s complete speculation until we get an update (if any). Seems Reddit’s made a split moral judgement here but there’s not much more we can argue over", "You don’t like watching people dig their own graves?", "Sounds like he's doing you a favor.", "That's the same place where the whole town taunted a kid whose grandmother died of COVID last year, right?", "He was likely minimizing what he took. The euphoria from opiates can make you feel like everything you do is justified, and for some people it's very stimulating. Also a lot of the entry-level opiate pills contain acetaminophen, which will amplify the effects of alcohol (and are also hella bad for your liver so don't ever do it!).\n\nSo here's a dude with little conscience or inhibitions. Not to justify it but rather understand his mindset, I can totally see how he'd view it like a being wild kid, chasing thrills.", "That's if she knows it's even there. \n\nI've got lots of friends whose wives don't really go into their garage/shed/basement and have no idea the stuff they have or not, and even when they do most of the time it's stuff lent or sold for almost nothing by friends/saleyards.\n\nI have no trouble believing she had no clue at all, there's a thousand lies he could have told to make it look legit.", "Thank you! Seems like a nice guy", "Who is dumb enough to steal from the same place twice", "Small-town jealousy. Anyone who tells you that rural folks \"value community\" more than people in a city is a fucking liar. They'll steal anything they can get their hands on. If you're a local they'll have some excuse based on gossip; if you're an outsider that will be their excuse. \n\n\nAnd god help you if their cousin is the sheriff or police chief, they'll help steal your shit and then make your life a living hell until you move away.", "😂", "Yeah think of all the people he could have helped by the cops combing that garage", "Definitely encourage him, but make sure you and he both know it’s not about the money. My brother was making videos for 9+ years before he finally took off. Even now with ~320k subscribers it’s not like he’s just rolling in the dough. You gotta do it because you love it, otherwise it’s just another stressful job.", ">if anything you're the cynical one who's upset other people judge character harsher (and arguably, more fairly) than you. \n\nI don't think you know what \"cynical\" means.", "That wasn’t me. \n\nI posted this to a few of my favorite subreddits after I saw it on YouTube (and deleted a couple of those when I realized I had overlooked the fact that it had been recently posted). Everything I posted is a direct link to YouTube. \n\nAs far as it being a repost *here*— I mean, I checked the front page of this sub before I submitted it and I didn’t see it. But this subreddit has a lot of content turnover. \n\nYou can check my profile and see I’m not a bot and I don’t spam content. It’s a 12 year old account. The vast majority of my activity here is comments.", "Pulling new trucks and off-road vehicles into the driveway isn’t exactly without conversation. The video literally shows their property, he didn’t exactly go to many lengths to hide clearly expensive new toys.", "Dude why didn’t he show them the fucking dog. It’s the same dog as in the video.", "Lmfao typical white folk caught in the act always results in crocodile tears. He wasn't sorry one bit he's just sorry he got caught.", "Definitely worth the read! I like your sis!", "That refers to the thief.", "It's funny because he's talking about a time period during which he was operating a motor vehicle if thats why he stole. So he's admitting to a DUI in front of cops.", "The YouTuber is hot", "I grew up in the country in Louisiana...we had more stuff stolen from us when I was growing up than I ever have since moving to and living in major cities.", "He’s going to make that back on the video", "It really depends what generation you are talking about. Not all of those things are true for every gen. Some older gens they are really quite similar the newer ones are further apart.\n\nAnd yes the hauling capacity is different. The Tacoma is more for towing and the Hilux for hauling. \n\nAlso the frame is not a completely different design. Ones boxed one isn’t. It’s not a totally unique frame.", "I think the thief feels $1400 better...", "He made more money than that off the video I bet.", "No I’m saying there’s no way the cops would have dealt with that situation so lightly if he wasn’t an old white guy. Just an objectively true statement, y’all can pretend otherwise but it doesn’t take away from reality\n\nI didn’t say the YouTuber was racist, not even sure how you came to that conclusion from reading my comment", "Is that a F150 he's driving? I didn't know they had such nice interiors. Panoramic sunroof?", "Lol well said", "Idk how you could have misinterpreted this so terribly.", "He was actually too weak to use the bow. It wasn't a shame/guilt thing.", "It is perfectly logical. However, I can understand why someone might still prefer to just pay cash. If you've been in serious debt before and have worked yourself out of it, it can make you sort of not really trust yourself with credit anymore. If you know you have a large amount of cash available you might be tempted to spend it on something else that you wouldn't otherwise. Sort of like how reformed alcoholics can't trust themselves to just have one drink. \n\nOf course alot of them probably just don't really understand it and think it sounds like a scam. And to be fair, on the surface it kinda does seem too good to be true. This extended super low interest rate environment is a bit of an anomaly historically and must seem absolutely bizarre to people who came up in the '80s when double digit interest rates were the norm.", "Cynicism doesn’t appear from thin air.\n\nThere is likely a reason that people are cynical.", "My brain auto-tunes out sponserships in YouTube videos now so I heard \"their customer service is great\" and zoned out.\n\n\n\n\nI only realised he was roasting it after he started talking about the pistons blowing and had to go back and watch the whole bit. That was very well done.", "Gotta go all in and start all over again till you make it. Not just do time (paid)...", ">builds really nice cars mostly, and then just fucking abuses the crap out of them, basically TRYING to break them.\n\n[He buys vehicles fully intending to destroy them.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hko4BbGsP4E)", "They should already know that god is omnipitent", "Incredible watch", "How many times you think that redneck fuck has said the phrase “I hate a thief”", "I’m not saying that jack isn’t a piece of shit but you don’t take one that close to its capacity unless your very slow. 2.5 tons quickly becomes over 3 tons through mishandling", "WD’s the man. Kinda strange seein him act relatively serious tho.", "i liked this guy for a bit. then he kept trashing shit i wish i had. like a truck. i'd love to have a truck. and this dude kept trashin' trucks. made me sad. trucks are cool.", "That old bastard will be sleeping on the couch for awhile.", "Everything that guy said during his apology was a lie. It wasn't a spur of the moment decision, he wasn't sorry, he absolutely did this many times. The dude is an entitled piece of shit, like most boomers.", "Fair, and a lot of that also has to do with the rise of captive/automanufacturer financing companies, and the manufacturers using special rates as promotional tools. If you're already making your money selling cars to the dealerships, you can afford the opportunity cost of not making money on financing.", "\"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.\"\n\nThe Tenth Commandment.", "Well yeah...\n\nI mean if you know much about the channel you know he fucking hates squatted trucks.\n\nMost of the shit he gets he destroys, but he has a particular distain for certain things like Honda Ridgeline or dumb as squatted trucks and he just annihilates them ASAP.\n\nSome things he puts a tad bit more care into and puts through the ringer while they are destroyed.\n\nDoesn't just rip it to pieces or shoot it to spite people that might be into those lame cars.", "Your biggest fan", "He could have lied to her and told her he bought it second hand. It's not that far fetched to suggest he hid the fact he was a thief from his wife. But I do agree that your suggestion is entirely plausible too.", "Can you point me to an article about that? I'm finding a few instances of postal workers shot, but none that seem to be after dark.", "It's standard practice in my jurisdiction. Less about forcing them to be there and more about (1) excuse for their employer (2) unequivocal that they need to be personally present (3) CYA in case defense calls the case for a hearing at the preliminary and they have to explain to the judge that witness failed to comply with a subpoena.\n\nThey won't subpoena the victim if they don't need their testimony to proceed, i.e. victim merely corroborates things that police officer could attest to.", "damn this was entertaining!", "He first denied he stole anything. He likely would have continued doing that if he wasn’t confronted with video evidence. \n\nBut then listen to the three main pillars of his explanation for why he did this: \n\n1.\tI drank some beer and took some drugs and did something foolish in the spur of the moment.\n\nBut he took his plates off his car and took the time to sabotage security cameras— showing premeditation. \n\n2.\tI let myself thing the property was abandoned.\n\nIt clearly *wasn’t* because, again, he both saw and actively sabotaged the cameras. \n\n3.\tI’m not a bad guy. I’ve fallen on hard times due to medical bills and I was going to use this money to help my situation. \n\nAgain— this goes against his previous statement that this was a spur of the moment lapse of judgement. He had a plan for this stuff.", "You're being quite charitable by assuming he was just exercising his rights, my bet is that he was going to hide some of the smaller or more valuable items (or at least take the time to consider it) but never got the chance because of the speedy warrant issue.\n\n>exercising your rights should never be a factor in determining whether you’re punished by the justice system.\n\nPeople get lenient treatment for being cooperative with law enforcement every single day (although cooperation doesn't guarantee favorable treatment), it may be functionally similar to punishing people for being uncooperative or exercising their rights but it isn't (quite) the same thing.", "Given the antics the youtuber he stole from i'd say he probably didn't want the guy living next to him.", "Whistlin is a nice guy,", "You know, both the thief and the cop have seen his youtube channel. \n\nThis means the neighbors have too. This guy just destroyed his reputation in his community", "When I worked catching shoplifters, the ones who had money and were honest about why they did it all said the same thing: \"it is thrilling.\"", "Seems like forcefully subpoenaing someone that called the cops but didn't want to press charges is a great way to get them to try and handle it without the cops next time.", "That ending…kinda fucking menacing..", "He thought the stuff was abandoned. Lol, yeah ok. Keep telling yourself that. This kid is a much better person than I’ll ever be as I don’t know if I could’ve resisted pressing charges.", "I love Whistlin diesel", "An an RV.", "The Chevy fanboy thing is just part of his character. He doesn't just destroy cheap stuff or even \"stupid\" stuff like those squatted trucks. He smashed a Jeep with a grain silo, he abused the Hilux until it didn't run and then dropped it from a helicopter. He's destroyed multiple Rams. He even destroyed multiple versions of his monstermax after dumping probably $100k+ into it. You made it sound like he's just driving cars aggressively and shit happens.", "If you deny it, they can't do shit. If you admit it in front of a cop on video camera? They can get you IF they want to spend the time/energy on it.", "If you're dismissing him saying \"no excuses\" then you'd dismiss an actual apology too so there's absolutely no point in any of it and you're getting all worked up for nothing.\n\nI didn't say I believed him when he said he got high on pills, you nitwit. I said he explained his actions without justifying them. It's a shitty explanation but he wasn't passing the buck either.", "The worst part of all this guy's talking is that he never actually apologizes.", "This is the ideal situation. Dude gets his stuff back and gets reimbursed for the vandalized cameras. Sending the thief to prison does not accomplish anything.", "Friendly correction: it's \"hare-brained\" as in having a brain the size of a rabbit", "Well I didn't mean to, I fully know how destructive he is with anything he owns.\n\nJust seems like certain things he is more okay with just fucking up to piss certain fan bases off.", "Dude is singing a \"hard times\" song with an RV, and a North Face jacket. \nFuck this dude. \nHe should have pressed charges.", "unless you signed up 3 or 4 years ago, you're gonna be waiting for many years.\n\nThey can only make so many base stations per year and they already have over a million people in the queue. I think they're projecting 50,000 base stations a year last I checked.", "Hahah wow. Thanks, I always thought it was something about hair growing in your brain 😅", "> I almost turned the video off\n\nI actually did..", "Being a redneck and having money aren't mutually exclusive. If you disagree, you might have been the bigot all along.\n\nEdit: just caught the username and account age, this is a waste of time.", "But nothing was done to him. Ergo, nothing to lose. Guys like him don't get prosecuted. Black men illegally selling loose cigarettes do.", "Sometimes this can just create more animosity that can escalate the situation and most people just wanna get on with their lives. I'm not saying it's right but I get it.", "It was so thorough too.", "The king ranch edition is nice as fuck.", "What makes this so much worse is the COPS are loading everything, MAKE THAT FUCKING PEICE OF GARBAGE DO IT!", "lol there are like 3 vehicles on his channel that he hasn't destroyed, and he still drives them very aggressively: the Hellcat, the R8 and his daily F250. The Skylines he just bought are about to be toast.", "Hands down, the most satisfying video I have watched this year.", "I already have starlink. Had it since March. It is awesome", "Username checks out", "> what is MY incentive to still want the guy charged?\n\nTo hopefully prevent the guy from doing it to your other neighbor next week.", "It's basically a religion.", "Could a DA if they caught wind of this move forward with charges even if law enforcement didn't initiate the process?", "*whoose*", ".", "It wasn't even an actual apology", "There’s a reason they reference neighbors in the 10 commandments. They can be dicks", "I've seen this dudes videos, they are great.\n\nSeems like a really good guy. \n\nI feel bad for the wife.", "Kid is clearly sharp.", "Pisses me the fuck off that he didn't press charges.\n\nI could *maybe* understand that if the guy immediately admitted to everything right off the bat but no he denied until being presented a search warrant and then only apologized once he found out he wasn't going to be charged.\n\nFuck that.", "I would bet the lenses are fucked though, even if you manage to remove the paint", "As if that dude would even know what an apple air tag is. You could have put those in plain sight and he would've thought that they apple logo meant the stuff was worth more.", "Lucky you. I tried to get my family member to sign up for it, but they wanted to \"wait and see how it works\".\n\nNow there's a queue at least 5-10 years out. They only brought on 30,000 new customers last year and they currently have 900,000 signed up.", "Maybe he does this kind of stuff frequently, and thats part why he is doing so fine. Although, he does not seem to be a criminal mastermind, so propably not.", "White douche bag thinks he can steal from people even though he has it all. That’s MAGA.", "As a city slicker I always thought farm folks were stereotypically nicer to their neighbors. Sad to hear.", "He was playing 4D chess, where you can go backwards in time.", "Chicken Soup for my Vengeful Soul\n\nEven the poor dog looks clueless, but welcoming like his man is innocent 😂", "A lot of rednecks I knew kept whatever actual $$ they had on hand. Grandpa was from backwoods ozarks and never had a bank account. None of his family did.", "Nicest gift he could've given you.", "other than actually having the dirtbag face consequences for his thievery? oh look he stole from someone, oh boy what a penalty he has to return the stuff he stole and pay for the things he destroyed. oooh gee that'll teach him a lesson. he's probably stolen from dozens of people before getting caught. not to mention the guy who had his property stolen had to waste his time and his money to catch this guy. is the thief gonna reimburse all of that? how about the cost to the public to pay for those cops to go out there?\n\nthis is the same kind of stupid bullshit that sleazy politicians use when it comes to corporate crimes. oh just fine them, no need for jail, it's utter bullshit.", "Whistling Diesel is such a cool guy, super honest about his life and what goes on", "Man, I wouldn't want whistlin'deisel as my neighbor either! He's entertaining as fuck, but have you seen/heard his trucks!? Lol", "Whistlindiesel ..... guy is a huge YouTuber. The content was better than pressing charges on an old man.", "My kid already plays basketball, I gotta encourage him after seeing how much LeBron makes!", "So are a lot of things, if you don't agree with them. You can put scorn and derisiveness into any label, it doesn't necessarily mean that those being labeled find the label derogatory.\n\nSomeone could, and have, called me a nerd or geek and meant it derisively but so what? I *am* those things. No skin off my back to call me them. Or some right-wingnut calling me a \"Liberal\", dripping with scorn and hate, like it was the worst insult they could come up with. It's an apt label and carries no derision for me, so nothing wrong with the label. The Brits calling the French, *Frenchmen* and vice versa, the Japanese calling westerners Gaijin, etc. Labels are labels. \n\nSimilarly, Rednecks tend to be proud of the fact, it carries no stigma. It's just a label.\n\nThere are of course hurtful and hateful labels, *when the labelee objects to the label because it was used to subjugate or oppress them.* That doesn't really apply to Redneck.", "When they said that they see his videos I immediately thought the same thing.\n\nOhhh this is a case of a boomer viewing this guy as an entitled little shit that never worked a day in his life why does he deserve all these nice things *I'm* just going to help myself because *I'm* a hard working ~~man~~ thief so *I* deserve to take them.", "Dude don't be a tool to try & legitimize your argument. Your shits backwards. All hate is hate. All racism is racism. Idc what age, race, spirituality, etc. it's not cool fuckin period.", "Why would you not press charges on this piece of shit. He’s probably been doing it for years and being let off isn’t going to make him stop.", "Yea the guy who makes a living modifying diesel trucks is definitely a democrat…..", "The victim did release a YouTube video with all the footage they would need plus the victim's commentary. This guy absolutely needs to be charged. No remorse. He's probably done it before and he will do it again.", "You’re being a real Revlis-TK421 right now", "That’s Whistlin Diesel talking to the sheriff. I don’t want to watch a 20 min video, I’m guessing he’s the victim??", "He basically just gifted a criminal 1.4k as a thank you for stealing his stuff. Police hate it when people don't press charges on criminals because they do it again.", "Compelling.", "Thanks! She's... interesting. \n\nOk last one lol. Her bday is a few days before mine so we always had a standing agreement no presents for each other. One year I was out and saw a DVD of city of god, which is recently seen and was blown away by, so I was like fuck it, bought it and was going to give to her as a gift. \n\nFast forward we're in my parents kitchen and my backpack is on top of the washing machine which is next to the fridge. She comes in, we're talking and somehow us not getting gifts comes up and I go actually I did get you something and pull the DVD out of my bag. She goes I'm not taking that you're just doing this to try and make me look stupid you didn't even get that for me. At first I'm kinda laughing about it but she refuses to take the DVD and I'm starting to get mad bc I did get it with good intentions. She's just like I'm not taking that and I'm not well I'm not either and put it on the top of the fridge. I'm like whenever you're ready to stop being a jerkoff you can have your bday gift and I walk out. A couple months after that she and my brother moved to Philly for a couple years and she and I basically didn't talk more than here or there while they were out there bc of that freakin DVD and her inability to trust that I was well intentioned.", "We'll he's a good ol' boy at the tail end of his life, wouldn't want to ruin his golden years you know.", "What part of the country is this? I don’t ever want to even visit there. Also is this some sort of Christian forgiveness bullshit? I’d take that fucker’s money, then press charges, then come back at night and burn his house down. Fuck that shit.", "Only one I can find is from 2013. One of my co-workers just had a gun pulled on him this past week. It’s becoming more of a “dog bites man” story.", ">This video alone will hurt far more and much longer than any charges he could press.\n\nEveryone in his shitty little town will see this video in the next week, and this dude will never be able to get decent service at the local dinner, the local bank won't extend him any credit, and no one will ever trust him again. For the next 10 years he'll be getting the side eye from everyone around him. Whispers of \"thats that youtube guy, isn't it?\" will happen everywhere he goes.", "Should have pressed charges 😡", "Second time I've seen this posted in reddit. \n\nSecond time I have ever seem ONE person in reddit say we should not arrest criminals. \n\nNever seen that on a black guy post. Even when it's more innocent. Lol\n\nI think that's noteworthy.", "\n>Nobody experiences genuine growth over a couple of minutes. The actual growth would need to come from decisions and commitments he makes when he's not under the threat. It's a slow process.\n\nThank you. Thus dude right on the edge of getting charged for theft over 5. It's not a slap on the wrist and he was going to say whatever the hell he could to avoid it.", "Right, so you make more money when customers borrow.\n\nSo it's still cheaper to pay cash.\n\nAlso, curious. Why LTV and not LVR? Cultural difference?", "The only people who believe in southern stereotypes are southerners. It’s wild man, almost every Texan I’ve ever met starts the conversation with “I know y’all think we’re a bunch of racist hillbillies in Texas but…” and it’s like nah dude, I almost never think about Texas.", "So I should ignore what seem to be blatant inconsistencies...if they're not happening to white people?", "“There’s no excuses” procedes to keep making excuses", "Have you ever heard this happening to any black person?", "Boomer didn’t come clean right away, he forced a warrant. For that reason he shouldn’t have been showed any mercy. I have a hard time believing he would have been that nice if the situation was reversed.", "I think his wife is 100% pissed off at him.", "No they can’t", "That's a bold assumption.\n\nIn fact, I would be cash money the cops would not have let him.", "Cool. I see you've tapped out", "Heard what?", "We were raised in a simpler time", "Lol you didn't make an argument.", "Cops would have 100 percent ran this in even if he said not to press charges. \"We'll leave it up to the DA\".", "If the victim refuses to testify it’s nearly impossible to gain a conviction. You can arrest and charge but the rest would be really hard", "He most likely premeditated that whole thing. His wife “I heard you’re well off”….", "Also called a bobcat. Used on farms, ranches and construction sites. Super useful piece of equipment with all sort of attachments.", "Wow no arrest? White folks get off easily", "His \"neck\" is the same shape. I'm dead wtf, how bad you gotta look to be defined by the shape of your neck.", "And any other thieves might just start to second guess themselves", "What apology?", "You don’t get an option to press charges on property damage and theft over 900$, you don’t get to make the decision if someone is going to be charged in a dui. This is a classic example of systemic racism of the American justice system. Where cops interrupt the law in such a way to allow white men to not face any consequences while a black man would have been cuffed and arrested on the spot before a search warrant was even conducted. But these klans man just treat this felonious criminal like a bro.", "I just keep a couple grand in the safe in case I see something cool on craigslist or facebook marketplace and the bank is closed for the weekend.", "Ok, and?", "Best take in this whole thread, how does this not have more upvotes! Lmao everyone has such a raging justice boner, can't really blame them for thinking with their... justice dick. But thanks for your nuanced take, I really think you nailed it!\n\nEdit: Also if anyone wants some context into why WD might need a 'get out of jail free card', check out his \"sponsor\" at 1:05 on [this video](https://youtu.be/YQ3rYZ8eEeU). He runs into issues with the law far more then the average youtube channel. That's why it's kinda hilarious seeing a cop call him a stand up dude lmao.", "Dam i would have pressed charges on him. No excuse for stealing from people. Glad you got your stuff back at least.", "This guy is so young, but handled it like a seasoned pro. He handled it better than I could have. I know you don't want to escalate it and make enemies of your neighbours, but it would have been so easy to charge him and make his life as horrible as possible. Strike 1. I'm sure he won't be so nice with strike 2.", "Not quite, a school board meeting attendee smirked at a student telling the board about her grandmother’s death, which took place this year. It’s also the home district of [Scott DesJarlais](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scott-desjarlais-abortions/), the huge mosque protests, and the school board member who read a letter from a chiropractor touting the dangers of masks in August 2020 contradicting direct testimony of several doctors from the audience just moments before.", "I didn’t think I had time to watch the entire video until I started watching the video. Massive respect to the guy who got ripped off and how he handled the situation.", "Haha sorry.", "Exactly. This is a 60+ year old man, who has gotten away with this shit a lot over the years - should have pressed charges and left it at that. He obviously lives well and I would bet that he \"supplements\" his income with shit that he steals.\n\nWhat a joke.", "That's not true. With witnesses and physical evidence they absolutely have leverage to force a plea (what most of our justice system is built around at this point)", "He’s doing it for the views.", "He was way too nice to the thief.", "That’s it", "80,000 is a city? 250,000 is barely a town.", "My fetish is people mid-argument changing their views and being reasonable and kind. And needless to say you're giving me a raging boner right now.", "Not about the money. It’s about what this dude will continue to do, but simply be better at it.", "Lol suree. I took a stance against your BS. Dude you walked bc you have nothing. & still don't. Compelling. Bye.", "If I found out my neighbour stole thousands worth of items from my other neighbour, while also destroying hundreds of dollars worth of security equipment, while intoxicated and driving around, it would take more than 5 minutes for me to forget. \n\nI live in New York and we try to not give a shit about our neighbours, I imagine in a small town where people actually know and talk about each other, it would be even worse.", "Yeah whistlin got stolen from on one of his properties. His camera captured everything and then he tracked the dude down and got his stuff back. He didnt press charges just wanted his stuff back.", "They’re only embarrassed they got caught and people might start gossiping about the sheriffs being over there", "In general, I would agree; framing problems as adversarial - as in \"your vote cancels out the vote of this idiot with the unacceptable behavior\" isn't really doing the state of 'how things are' in this country any favors.\r \n\r \nIf more people could simply abide by the rules and not be dicks, that would do considerably more to change the state of affairs than voting simply to cancel out someone else's vote.", "Lmao you have downvotes but I LOVE this comment haha, it really does come off as genuine. You're alright :)\n\nEdit: if anyones doubting look through his history, he's hilarious and clearly not as dumb as his \"this is fake\" comment let on. Not a good troll, but It's absolutely hysterical how he phrased that revelation. Also he's been on reddit for even longer then i've been, so you can be sure we're both losers. I like this guy. He makes fun of r/phish but in a wholesome way, that's pretty much all I need.", "The wife pleading innocent like she didnt know, rightttrrr. You bet your ass if my boyfriend came home with a truck packed full of random expensive items not even boxed up I would be asking questions.", "I think he made that decision base off the wife. She may not have deserved it.", "I mean he was just asking to get robbed, what with his property *in* his property being visible from the road", "if I was the guy who got my stuff stolen I probably would have changed my mind and fully pressed charges once the guy started spewing that shit. \n\nThe worst part is now this guy has to worry about this hillbilly and his buddies in the area taking retribution against him. I know he said he doesn't live up there anymore so hopefully he never has to deal with them.\n\nMy aunt and uncle bought some land in northern georgia last year and are building a house. Everyone for the most part is super friendly but there's one guy they've caught on their land multiple times now and he just says, \"Oh the old owners didn't care I was here.\" Which 1) doesn't matter and 2) they actually talked to the old owners and they said they never allowed him on their property and had to tell him multiple times to leave. This asshat then told my aunt, \"I'm a bid deal in these parts, you best stay on my good side.\"", "Anyone got some timestamps so I don't have to dick around with a 22 minute video?", "Fuck I know right? Thr guy took like what, 1000s of dollars in stuff? Hammer him with felonies", "So cool seeing this and comparing it to my fucked experiences in Mexico, where I've been assaulted by a dude who turned out to be a cop (so nothing came out of it when his pals arrived at the scene), and my house robbed several times by both the next door neighbors.\n\n​\n\nThe cops respond to our call but one dude knows a cop so he calls him and they say to us nothing can be done, even when my stuff is in plain view in the asshole's house. And the other neighbor steals even from his family but everyone seem scared to do something about it because when the cops have been looking for him everyone else hides the fucking rat. \n\n​\n\nI've lived in several cities in central and north Mexico and there's always some troublesome neighbor but I didn't realized how used to it I got after several robberies.", "Isn’t it weird to not differentiate between say, stealing bread vs rape and murder? Can’t you use that logic to justify all sorts of atrocities?", "This dude's mannerisms match every boomer in the midwest I know. Just the way they move their heads when they talk like they are king shit drives me nuts.", "Watched the whole thing, this kid is a stand up fella I probably wouldn’t press charges on a neighbour after some thought but I would definitely take that 1,500 for the cameras. He must be loaded or just exceptionally nice. \n\nMan that’s good justice right there.", "How do you think junkies end up homeless?", "I mean sure, I am who I am and can't be anyone else so, thanks?", ">do you know how much fucking effort it is to stack a cord of wood into a truck?\n\nNext to none. It is time consuming at the most.", "That’s why I said “very hard” - as usually the only witness is the victim, with others or video you might have something, but even the physical evidence will be hard without the victim saying this is how I got these injuries. Any reasonably good defense attorney could get to reasonable doubt.", "Sounds like we went to different Roman Catholic Churches. There are 100% different levels, that’s the whole mortal sin vs venial sin. Last rites and confession are necessary for forgiveness and purgatory is available for those who die before they were able to confess. I know the verse you’re referring to in the Bible, but that’s not church doctrine.", "Lol!", "> portraying himself as generous and forgiving on his channel is a more useful investment of his money. Maybe \n\nThat's a very cynical view of it. Maybe he just pittied the poor crying wife.", "He probably took out an insurance policy to cover that. Theres no fucking way a skid steer stolen 14 years ago is going to show up.", "The thief's sob story made me want to vomit all over him.", "yep totally true", "What’s an “accidental” sin though? I think everyone who does something wrong knows it’s wrong and goes through the action. They justify it to themselves, or try to ignore their conscience, but no ones like “oops I accidentally planned out and went through with this murder!” \n\nSo the idea is *if* one were going to go through act, and the *only* reason they wouldn’t is because they were fearful of god, then doesn’t knowing that god is “infinitely” forgiving just mean that their one defence is inherently flawed?\n\nIt’s like, as a deontologist, I were to believe that my actions defined my morals, and that I had to only act in such a way that my maxim could be made a universal law. Except when I didn’t feel like it, because it’s ok. \n\nAdding that exception would mean that I could arbitrarily break the “main” rules whenever I wanted without consequence.", "Of course human logic differentiates these things.", "yep rfl, they're irredeemable. Most people have no idea how bad/insane they can be.", "Nah. That explanation only came after him denying he stole anything and the cops getting a search warrant", "Guilty people have rights too and while that kind of sucks sometimes, it would suck more to have an officer search an innocent persons property.", "As a white person from the country with a few hill billy tendencies I don't think redneck is offensive or racist and people who call the victim card on it are losers.", "What is fucked up about it? It creates more work for them (and the YouTuber) and he is already named and shamed within the community. Everything was returned. His marriage is likely ruined. Punishment was done. No need to waste their tax dollars on the shit head.", "This is whistlindiesel right?", "He already said he wouldn't press charges before the cops even confronted the guy, that he just wanted his stuff back.", ">I really doubt he grew up to ripe old boomer age and just suddenly one day decided \"you know what, I don't have a conscience, I'm just gonna steal some shit\"\n\ncause you don't know anything about crime. It happens a lot.", "I don't know I'd classify it as \"free and clear\". This video has already been viewed millions of times in just two days. It's also now on the frontpage of one of the most viewed websites in the world. It shows his face, house, vehicles, etc. He may not have been punished by the law, but *everyone* he knows will very likely soon know that he's an untrustworthy thief and vandal, and that's going to follow him around for years.", "favorite Part is he’s talking about having a few beers and taking some pain pills and then hopping in his CAR… in front of like 8 officers 🙄", "God doesn’t function logically, as defined by humans?", "Oh so we're just making things up here, what if all the cops were black and the thief was black and the YouTuber said he didn't want to press charges, what do you fantasize would happen in that situation?", "It’s not impressive and it’s not kind. He has done no favors and is just enabling a thief to continue victimizing people.", "The YouTuber paid him money at the end there because the their \"admitted to stealing\"? WTF?! This kid is beyond dumbassery.", "The hypothetical reward is a flex. Never to actually be paid", "Yeah this guy is not that redneck’s first victim. His neighbors should go looking for their stuff too.", "I mean, you can care while also holding someone accountable for their actions. This isn't a black or white scenario.", "Tennessee has a pretty neutral accent for the most part. It only gets thick when you get into the way back woods. The accent gets stronger when you go to Georgia and Alabama.", "The kid PAID the thief money near the end. Unbelievable.", "What even is a skid loader?", ">As it stands, there is zero punishment.\n\nWildly incorrect and the community's tax dollars weren't wasted on more of this crap.", "Hush. There's a Reddit circlejerk going on here.", "good fuckin riddance to that douchenozzle", "“Thanks for returning my shit after having solid physical evidence and caught you red handed and we had a search warrant and sheriffs were in your house. What a nice guy to give all that stuff back on his own volition.”\n\nThis guy literally only gave up when he ran out of options. He doesn’t care at all.", "What stance?", "This young man did everything right. He stayed calm, did his due diligence & made provable accusations, contacted the police, Le them handle it, & got his property back. It is so sad to me that not only did the thief somehow feel compelled to take what was not his, he also attempted to destroy evidence by painting over the cameras.. This was pre-meditated; he was actually going to pretend that he lawfully acquired the items. People do stupid stuff all the time, but due to photographic evidence, this seemingly law-abiding citizen has brought shame upon him & his wife, & it will follow him the rest of his life.", "It almost definitely means you’re a right wing moron", "while most would agree, in america that doesnt mean that much.\n\nCredit credit credit.", "That 300k bounty at the end lmao", "That's Mars the conglomerate, and surprisingly it looks like they don't even lobby on dog food since that's categorized under \"agricultural services/product\" instead of the \"food/beverage\" category used for human consumption. Their competitor nestle does but even that is surprisingly small (30-80k/yr). Apparently it's not an industry that gets a lot of lobbying, Mars petcare is responsible for half of their income.", "He was a \"standup guy\" and didn't press charges because he knew he was going to put this on his youtube channel and he wanted to make himself look good.", "I meant it in a mildly derogatory way. I wrote it with *scorn* in my heart", "Humans say well that was bad but this was worse. God says its all bad. and gives out logical punishments that fit each sin. I don't speak for God but this is my understanding as a Roman Catholic.", "Yeah exactly. So god views rape and murder as equally bad as stealing bread to feed your family? \n\nGod sounds like an idiot.", "Well that's a whopping generalization lol.\n\nI leave thousands of dollars of valuables.in my yard every day of the week without a single thought that my neighbors will take them.", "Good point. Not sure if that's hit him yet but good point. But again, I'm assuming he'll regret getting caught more than actually being a piece of shit.", "Millions of people will watch this video. Many will talk about it to others. This guy's face is not blurred, his cars are not blurred, his house is not blurred. This will follow him for the rest of his life.", "si que fue radical", "Spoiler alert: Omg i can’t believe he fully confesses at the end! So dumb. Just give the stuff back and don’t say anything, or maybe don’t be a dumb ass thief. Lol!", "Well you said \"nearly impossible\" which I wouldn't consider the same as \"very hard\" but sure I get your point", "Mine is doing that too. He’s 62 and has early onset dementia. He really believes stuff that is just 100% untrue. Just pick your battles. \n\nFeeding the dogs isn’t really something worth fighting over in my opinion. Just wait till your mom is back and she’ll let him know.", "These are the same people that cry animal abuse when you let your cats and dogs live outdoors… all while their animals look like they have diabeetus. I’ve literally seen people get MAD at this shit. 🙄", "Glad the guy got his stuff back but pissed the perp gets off with no arrest. His arrest shouldn’t be up to this you tube guy. If he’s stealing from his neighbor he’s stealing from others. This is making me angry to watch.", "https://sponsor.ajay.app/", "Prosecute his ass.", "Well unless he's a secret agent with multiple identities and needs the money for a quick getaway. 🤔", "\"And there's no excuse\"\n\nMakes an excuse\n\n\"And you know I'm not trying to make excuses\"\n\nHit em with excuse #2\n\n\"And like we said no excuse\"\n\nexcuse-excuse jutsu finisher", "Not to mention admitting to driving under the influence in front of the cops\n\n...who oddly did nothing about it.", "Typical trump supporters", "fucking boomers. \n\n\nif the shoe was on the other foot, the old guy would have shot that young guy dead.", "Isn't this normal in rural US to have a lot of land even relatively poor?", "No...... God says bad is bad. you stole bread, say three hail Mary's. You murdered someone you must carry your weight in rocks up a hill for all eternity. thats the difference. I'm not asking you to believe in my God, I'm not insulting you. I'm giving insight and you are not understanding. I will walk away now.", "meanwhile they all have \"chronic back pain\", are addicted to opioids, and on medicaid and disability meanwhile complaining about the government and people who take handouts. Its so hypocritical you couldn't make it up any better.\n\nI dealt with this trash in the midwest all the time, they were all like that guy.", "Until they see there is a video of him online with over 3.5 million views of him crying like a little bitch.", "I mean god is supposed to be all knowing. He seems like a masochist to me if that’s the case. Like he knows all the evil people will do evil things. Real Christians/Catholics can’t believe in free will while also believing god is all knowing.", "C’mon, if your shortsighted enough to not see this, how are you different than the shortsighted boomers of today! \n\nThe young will always blame the old. Bob Dylan sang many songs about this. “The times they are a-changin” came out in 1964. That was almost 60 years ago, bob dylan was 24, young, and pissed about the way the older generation handled things. Fast forward 60 years and the new young now feel the same way about the current older gen.\n\nIn the end it’s not about age, you can’t generalize everything to “an age group” just like you can’t generalize everything to a race, a gender, etc. otherwise you’re throwing under the bus even the good people within that group. it’s about holding specific people accountable for their actions.", "This guy’s videos on the Toyota Hilux are awesome. That truck was indestructible!", "How do you suppose he got media consent to show the guy’s face?", "Makes me think the entire thing is for the clicks.", "You should see all of his vehicles he has, definitely fuck you money", "I hope he was prosecuted despite the victim’s forgiveness. Fuck that guy.", "If god says bad is bad, ie bad is equally bad, then why does he give unbalanced punishments? \n\nIf I had two people that both stole 5 dollars, and since 5 dollars is equal to 5 dollars, wouldn’t it be terribly unjust to punish one person more? \n\nHow can god declare something to be equal yet treats them unequally?", "That guy almost certainly votes for trump and but he’s about “thugs” when he is talking about black people.", "Made me mad watching it knowing most anyone else would be arrested.", "The thief is a massive POS. That being said, there’s something to be said about the YouTuber who says that he forgives the thief and refuses to take his money out of a sense of good will, and then posts his face all over the internet.", "Point is that there are decent trump voters too. It’s just not the majority. Most of them are just like this shit bag and talk a big game about being upstanding.", ">Dude could have just said \"I got a thrill out of stealing it. I wanted the shit\" but that would never happen.\n\nAnd it's so weird because to any rational person, just saying this would be the best possible response. But this idiot couldn't just do that.\n\nEven if you are caught completely in the wrong, people will at the very least respect the fact that you owned up to it and took FULL responsibility.\n\nLooking at it from a psychological perspective, once a guilty party is caught the smartest move is to genuinely admit to your wrongdoing and accept your punishment with some kind of dignity.\n\nComing up with all these excuses, instead of just owning up to the shit you caused, makes people not like you EVEN more. Because not only are you a sack of shit, you can't even be a *genuine* sack of shit.", "i think bullets will become a primary currency", "> Only when they need the victims help to prosecute the case and don't have evidence to throw the victim in jail for perjury or obstructing an investigation.\n\nEven then, we’ll still press charges with uncooperative victims. Most domestic violence cases have uncooperative victims, but we look for ways to prosecute the case anyway, either with or without the victim’s help.\n\nMy last trial when I was a prosecutor was a domestic violence case where the victim wife was saying that what her husband did was an accident. I impeached her on the stand though and the jury didn’t buy her story at trial and convicted the guy.", "My grandparents were like that. My grandfather had his \"shop\" which my grandmother just never set foot in. That was \"his space\", and she had no interest in what he was doing in there. It was just woodworking and fishing stuff, but for all she knew, he was discovering cold fusion. And really, anything else that showed up, she would've accepted if he told her he bought, borrowed, or salvaged.", "Don't worry bout it, kind of obvious as hell. But hey I saw your profile. You just go do your own thing. Your black, that's cool idc. I'm white, cool, idc. No one's gonna change your mind. You're gonna continue so go on then. But reverse racism is a real thing & sadly it enables racism even more whilst building up even more barriers. \n\nYou either choose to make this world a lil better or a lil worse; that's on you. 'Compelling' I know.", "I can’t believe he let him keep the money. The humility is jaw-dropping. Tears in my eyes. I wish this guy was my friend.\n\nAs for the thief — all I can say is that sociopaths are the cancer of this planet.", "Seriously. Drunk and on pain pills?\n\nThat sounds like a recipe for couch lock and infomercials. No way in fuck you feel like standing, let alone stealing shit a mile down the road.", "Boomer is a generation. You're lumping all boomers into the same group. \n\nHaving all that stuff isn't what makes him a boomer and being a boomer isn't what makes him crap.", "Locals know which homes arent inhabited regularly and will regularly rip them off. Our family has a hunting camp in a similar area, can't keep anything of value there because it will get stolen so we still have a tube TV and DVD player there, that sort of thing", "are dumb or a troll? seriously...\n\nIf I had two people that both stole 5 dollars, and since 5 dollars is equal to 5 dollars, wouldn’t it be terribly unjust to punish one person more?\n\nit's the same crime you twat. \n\n​\n\nstfu, respectfully.", "It is, yeah. This is a direct link to a video on his channel.", "They still have to write the report and send it to the district attorney though. They just put in the police report that the victim does not desire prosecution, and then the DA will decide if it’s worth filing charges or not.", "Wow. A 300k bounty on your head for swiping a 20k skid loader, oyyyyy", "Its up to the victim to decide if they want to prosecute. Which often leads to court shit and them spending more time on something they just want to be over.", "Hijacking this top comment to say that giving the money back to the wife was a power move:\n\n**The thief never made the victim whole, which removes his ability to rationalize this away and retaliate later**. Boomer has to live with it and now he can't reason his way into shit talking the dude or pulling some revenge on him. You can see that by his reaction.\n\nAlso those cameras will probably be fine. Just clean the spray paint off the lens with some solvent. \n\n\nFinally, why were the gates left open? Honeypot. Anything for content, am I right?", "Well, there is now a video of him online with over 3.5 million views of him being a bitch.", "Yes exactly. \n\nSo if god says all crimes are equally bad, yet he punishes some crimes harsher than others, you can understand why that logically doesn’t make sense right? \n\nIf “bad = different levels of bad”, then it makes no sense for god to argue that “bad = bad”, as it doesn’t logically make sense since it contradicts itself.", "ok boomer", "It is, and the cops specifically asked him in the video if he wanted to press charges. He said no unless they needed him to do so for the sake of others.", "What a stupid comment", "> What’s an “accidental” sin though?\n\nAt what point does an action become a sin? On Thanksgiving, lots of people eat until they can't eat any more. Does that count at gluttony? If not, how many times can you eat until you can't eat any more until it counts as gluttony? \n\nIf you look at yourself in the mirror and think yourself attractive, does it count as vanity? How self absorbed can you be without it being vanity? \n\n\"Accidental\" could include indulging a bit too much without realizing you're indulging until after the fact.", "I've been watching him for a long time and the viewership really exploded after he took Monstermax into the ocean.", "Bs lock him up.... I have no more respect for whistling diesel well... He has more money and respect than I'll ever have but still", "It’s utterly insane that he didn’t press charges. This was clearly a practiced thief. He just ensured that someone else will be stolen from.", "truck nuts @ $20 a pop. gotta have one for each of your trucks", "This guy is nicer than me if I saw someone denying it strait up like that I would of sent them strait to jail", "Literally definition of a city is 20.000-100.000, but go off bro", "Jesus Christ, dude. *Alright.* \n\nI've just seen this exact comment like eleven times now-- and a few of those directly accused me of being the person who ripped it (not saying you accused me of that). I was just responding to the least-aggressively written comment, which was yours. \n\nDon't really understand the hostility as what I wrote was merely explaining the situation-- but I hope your holidays are going well.", "Was this exact video not posted here like less than 48hrs ago?", "There’s an epidemic in this country of married middle aged white dudes with high school educations who own houses and $40k trucks and somehow still think the world owes them something.", "No wonder they’re all obsessed with being gun toting vigilantes in Texas - you need to be!", ">magnanimous\n\nI've never heard of that word, looked it up...that's exactly how I want to be in life. I hope I can remember this word.", "Love this + the bonus \"Project Farm\" blip review.", "For Canadians, it's Albertans. Cows and oil economy. They're all overleveraged, huge trucks, ATVs, McMansions, and whenever there is a downturn in oil prices, they stare bankruptcy in the face, demanding a bailout while whining about Trudeau and \"libruls\" ruining their lives.", "\"I took a couple pain pills, drank a beer and I felt like a goddamn 16 yr old again. Now that ain't a good excuse.\" \n\nDamn straight, you just admitted to lacking impulse control AND being a junkie. Good job, numbnuts.", "It's red.", "Fuck yeah.", "Whistlin Diesel is the best! He’s been robbed a few different times but never forgets.", "It’s a question of weather or not the government can meet their burden of proof without the testimony of the victim/complainant. If they can prove the elements of the crime with out that testimony, they can and will proceed. In this case, they need the Vic/cw to testify that the defendant did not have permission to enter the land and remove the property.", "Yeah, unfortunately comments like yours are buried. It’d be something if he genuinely forgave him, but he documented the whole thing to create a viral vid, humiliated the guy, and profited from the views. And then there are morons saying “what a nice guy.” I mean, he had every right to get even with the thief, but let’s not go overboard in calling him kind hearted.", "Well, that’s a question of when does “over eating” become gluttonous. Is the sin being gluttonous, or is the sin over eating? If you over eat once, do you ask for forgiveness? Or you have to bank it up first? \n\nI think that’s the question of when does self confidence become vanity, no?\n\nI’d argue that people are aware of when they over eat. Vanity and pride are harder to define, but doesn’t that make it equally difficult to ask for forgiveness for? \n\nBut that aside, does that mean god WONT forgive sins like murder, since there is a clear lead up to the action in which the murderer understands that they’re going to murder?", "That's great. Where do you live, again, exactly..?", "Interestingly, stealing from your neighbors is also the most common form of thievery!", "That's not really that weird, this sort of person often pays for everything in cash; I used to work at a store specializing in outdoors/gun stuff that this sort of guy would frequent and have rung out plenty of $5k+ transactions in cash.", "The first minute or two sorta sets up the situation. \n\nAt ~5:00, he goes to the thief's house with the police. \n\nAt ~13:00, the police return with a warrant. \n\nAt ~15:40, the thief offers his apology and an excuse/explanation for why he did it. \n\nThose are pretty much the highlights in 4-5 minutes if you can't spare the 17 minutes.", "Longest video I’ve ever watched on Reddit and I don’t regret it", "Let’s be real here. He’s only sorry because he got caught.", "There are plenty of YouTubers who aren't trust fund brats and probably more than a few plumbers with a family safety net if they need it... they'd all be stupid not to make educated bets on themselves by borrowing when borrowing is cheap, they are confident they are the best at what they do, and their opportunities are growing.", "That was my mistake, I honestly forgot Mars also makes people food. Although, I don't think the distinction between agri/food is necessarily that clear cut, since I imagine the FDA falls under food industry but it has jurisdiction over pet food regulation. In many years Mars did also spend ~$60,000 towards the agriculture subcategory, so even if you discount food category completely that's at least ~100k-200k per year between Mars, Nestle, and PFI. Whether or not the pet food lobbying industry breaks into millions is up for debate, but that's still a fair chunk of money annually.", "I'm sure that was nerves talking but that honestly coerces the guys mind to think he is forgiven, feels less shame, and ultimately does not retaliate or touch his stuff ever again. I can tell that was his intentions with all of this, he doesn't want his neighbor as an enemy and that's wisdom.", "That's a presumptuous position. We don't know anything about the guy other than he stole some shit because he was in a terrible financial position.", "This. In a sense, it was selfish of Whistlin to use the situation to generate content by (essentially) holding up Justice. YouTubers understand that taking a hit in the real world is totally worth it when your real game is the online revenue.", "I'm black? news to me.", "I'll repost my comment again here: I'm sure that was nerves talking but that honestly coerces the guys mind to think he is forgiven, feels less shame, and ultimately does not retaliate or touch his stuff ever again. I can tell that was his intentions with all of this, he doesn't want his neighbor as an enemy and that's wisdom.", "Possibly, but he clearly knew he was doing something shitty considering the lengths he went to to cover his tracks. He still has to live with the shame of being outed and the fact that people will undoubtedly be throwing that in his face and reminding him of his shittiness for years, if not the rest of his life. Considering his wife's reaction, I suspect this isn't something she'll soon be letting him forget.", "I thought your comments were amazing.", "I think if OP had accepted the money, the man would’ve convinced himself that he righted a wrong. Accepting it would’ve alleviated even the slightest pang of guilt (though it seemed premeditated so I doubt he had any). I think not pressing charges or taking the cash was a great way of making the thief feel even smaller than he probably did at that point. Since people often (wrongly) use age to measure maturity and reason, it must’ve been even more of a blow to his ego that OP is a much younger man being the bigger person and exposing him for the utter fool that he is. Assuming the man’s family and neighbors were unaware that he’s a thief, humiliation is the ultimate punishment.", "No excuse but here is a boat load of excuses of why I’m a pathetic excuse for a human being.", "Yes. I've been told numerous times that it was. \n\nIt came up in my YouTube feed and I thought it was interesting and I wanted to share it. When I checked the front page of this subreddit, I didn't see it and thought it was good to go. Since this subreddit has a lot of turnover, I likely should have searched a little more thoroughly. \n\nI apologize for the inconvenience of making you see the same thing twice.", "We had our car stolen out of our driveway and the cop told us that IF they caught the thief he wouldn’t do more than a day in jail.", "I’d sue the guy. He’s certainly stolen before but was never caught so red handed.", ">Stay mad fanboys, you worship a spoiled brat. \n \nPretty sure that's all society has ever been, mindless worship of the wealthiest spoiled brats. Let's hope it ends soon, I mean it won't but we can hope.", "I originally watched this video curious to see what someone referred to as a boomer. These days I feel like anyone over 50 is casually referred to as a boomer and it's goofy...that was my perspective coming in. \n\n\nAnyway, I ended up getting hooked and watched the whole thing. That guy who caught the person stealing from him is a good person. He seems really smart and absolutely took the high road in that whole situation. I'm a bit of a hot head and lose my temper at times if someone has committed a serious offense, but it just never works out in a positive way when you do...this is a great lesson for people like me. \n\n\nGood for him.", "I disagree about the motivation for criminal law, but either way a victim's willingness to testify impacts whether or not the person is prosecuted.", "I'm not playing your game", "No inconvenience to me, just making sure I wasn't going crazy lol. Just thought it was odd to see it again in such a short space of time upvoted as much as it has been", "That's not everywhere in the US, it's state by state. Even in states where the DA wants to prosecute, if the victim isn't willing to work with them it's not usually worth prosecuting, so they end up with more say in cases with minor harm than you'd think.", "That guy knew exactly what he was doing and was sorry that he got caught. Always lock up your home, your car, your stuff, etc.", "lol they were asking for it!", "Says the Boomer", "What a fucking chad, ask for cash back for the vandalized cameras and then refuse to take it.", ".", ">If you're dismissing him saying \"no excuses\" then you'd dismiss an actual apology too\n\nPlease explain.\n\n>you nitwit.\n\nNevermind. The moment you have to resort to name calling to get your point across, you've lost all credibility.", "I could swear I saw it posted yesterday though.", "I don't know if it's the same there, but even in California you can't film on private property without getting consent from the other party. In a public setting you are free to film as long as the two people aren't under the impression it's a \"private conversation\" or something, which leaves room for all kinds of crap.", "I like how he admitted he was driving under the influence right in front of the cops", "If you don't want to be posted on the internet for stealing things, don't steal things. Problem solved.", "I bet someone from Reddit finds the skid loader", "Hey I watch this kid on youtube!", "Thank you. I was intrigued, but not enough to spend 20+ minutes. Usually when these get posted it's like a 30-60 second clip", "Low quality bait", "That’s right baby doll. That is how he got all the shit he has , he stole it!❤️🤣", "word goes around small towns fast", "Just checked, he has 3.1 million subscribers. You were off by the entire population of Vermont lol", "Robbery requires proof the victim is robbed. Really hard to press charges if the victim doesn't cooperate.", "Luddites will learn.", "Are you trying to prove you're a thief?", "> But that aside, does that mean god WONT forgive sins like murder, since there is a clear lead up to the action in which the murderer understands that they’re going to murder?\n\nIf you gave your child a specific list of things not to do and they went and did the things anyway, how much forgiveness would you give? \n\nIf you plan to kill someone, then you have time to realize that it's a sin and stop before actually committing the crime. If you still go through with it, God should be less lenient with you. If however, you kill someone in the spur of the moment while defending another, it would be more of an accidental sin as you didn't plan it out and didn't have much time before you acted on it.", "Not at all. Plenty of poc have admitted to dui to police after the fact but without physical evidence no DA will charge. One of my best friends is poor, black and a felon. He was arrested for dui under those circumstances and the DA declined to follow through since there was a small chance for conviction and a large chance the judge would set the verdict aside if they did. That was in Nebraska City which I assure you is very racist against blacks.", "Yes if you put up more collateral you get better terms on repayment... no this is not unfair. If your only asset is a good business plan, you get investors.", "I feel like saying \"You can never make this up to me\" would hit harder than anything else could.", "He’s not sorry, just sorry he got caught", "The best vibes out of 2021!!!!", "Right, his wife just sees all this merchandise appearing in their massive merchandise garage and thinks \"magic\"", "And my point is that if the cops wanted to they could have extracted more information. I can walk into a police station and tell them to arrest me for many crimes that were never witnessed. Your logic is flawed.", "Implying anybody on this website has any credibility to begin with.", "That's not guilt, that's shame. But not in the \"I'm ashamed I did something wrong\" more like the \"I'm being shown up by a kid who thinks I need charity, when I work for everything I have\" kind of shame. A lot of irony wrapped up in there.", "They must be Biden supporters then", "Ive said it before and ill say it again...\nNarcissistic personality disorder sufferers(ie true narcissists) have a literal mental disorder that is outside of their control. Would you say similar(\"asshole\", \"not good people\") of someone with literally any other mental disorder? Its weird to me that certain disabilities dont get the benefit of compassion while others do.", "Especially because I'd put decent money down that if you just went to WhistlinDiesel like a fucking grown up and asked \"Hey man, can I borrow your backpack leaf blower???\" (or compound bows, ATV ramps, etc) he'd no doubt be like \"Of course! You want me to bring them over to your place or do you need help loading them up here?\". \n\nThe thief clearly didn't even need the stuff, just being a greedy a-hole. He chose to make the world a worse place when instead he could have made a good friend/neighbor.", "Fuuuck, America is weird.", "Shouldn’t ol’ Swifty Lightfingers be questioned about the DUI offense he admitted to on camera and in front of a cop?", "He was vindictive. You just watched a video that he posted to humiliate the thief. Also, he profited from your viewing. I’m sure you could do that and all sorts of people could. Don’t deify the guy; you got played.", "I love how the detectives show up and they're just rednecks with badges.", "Well to be fair whistlindiesel has a metric fuck ton of money that essentially destroys, so this was all about respect and or just to make a video. Either way he wouldn't even miss the shit that wasn't sentimental, but it'd be the principle of the matter to me. Hell I don't even like delivery drivers on my property hahaha", "Nahhhhhhh no reason. Just curious.", "Lol they say that about thieves that are killed by policemen too. Great society we got here", "Baller!", "Yeah. The last segment of this video is very important to watch. The man admits to stealing (while on pills) and has no excuse, even reiterates that he isn’t on hard times. The youtuber then forgives him because he thinks he’s sufficiently embarrassed, and then detective says call me if you need to but “i seriously doubt (you’ll need to). \n\nIn other words, a guy gets caught red-handed, admits to the crime while on drugs, and everybody including the detective lets it slide. The guy who lost property even refuses money for the damaged property. If that isn’t textbook privilege idk what is. His social status between them was enough to circumvent any kind of justice.", "So the guy destroyed his property (the cameras) and that was ok? I can't believe he didn't take the money to replace the property. He should have been made whole otherwise what message does this send to the guy?", "\"I won't press charges\" and the cops and reddit being cool with it?", "I found it baffling he also offered money to the thief for cooperating. Really, dude?", "If you don't watch whistlin, he gets a lot of hate. Mostly because he takes perfectly good, usable cars, sometimes extremely expensive well-sought after collector vehicles, and just destroys them. People get angry about it and have gone as far as stalking him, and at this point stealing from him.", "Only person OLD ENOUGH to be a \"Boomer\" in that photo is the cop.", "> it’s not an excuse… \n\nYeah bro, none of the shit you said was excusable. You fucking stole. You’re a thief.", "He said the pills were the problem. That was probably his fix money", "Nice", "They say what, 'don't commit crimes'? Yeah that sounds like a good society to me.", "Their job is to prevent crime, and ensure that the victims of crimes are made whole. Punishment (via conviction and sentencing) is part of preventing crime and sometimes the best means we as a society have come up with to make the victim whole (especially in the case of violence), but in this case the criminal is not expected to reoffend, the victim was made whole, and the video will help to discourage future opportunistic theft. The police did their job, and didn't have to deal with an arrest, keeping stuff in evidence (further depriving the rightful owner), or going to court over it. Additionally if the guy does reoffend, this case can be filed anew and is well documented including a voluntary admission of guilt, plus whatever charges would come from the new offense (with multiple cases establishing a pattern of behavior to make the new offense's conviction(s) easier). This is an absolute win for the police, they've met their every piece of their mission to protect the community without needing to go to the trouble and expense of getting a conviction. This is the sort of policing we should be looking for more of, serving more as mediators of disputes rather than a blunt instrument to beat criminals into submission; not every case allows for it (especially in more urban areas) but when it can happen it's a good thing.", "> These days I feel like anyone over 50 is casually referred to as a boomer and it's goofy\n\nThe thief mentions the fact that he's 60 years old in the video (@16:05). That means he was born in 1961. Baby Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. He's a boomer by definition. \n\nAlso, I've seen 4-5 comments and received one weirdly-aggressive DM that think I'm calling WhistlinDiesel (the victim and creator of this video) a boomer. It's clear that these people are just looking at the thumbnail of the video and not watching it. I'm not accusing you of doing this, Buck-- just thought it'd be a good place to mention it.", "he says in the intro that he's selling the property because he hates his neighbors....", "Not even likely to be a Boomer. He could easily be in his 50's. The youngest Boomer is 57.\n\nAnd redneck? You know that term comes from whites who work in the sun and burn there necks, mostly before we had sun screen tech.\n\nThis guy doesn't look like a manual labor kind of guy.", "Oh, I'm not sure. Why?", "I'll take the cops' word over reddits armchair lawyers, thanks.", "that shit is a death sentence in texas. castle doctrine, judges will look the other way", "Conspiracy hat, maybe the three parties are all friends and this whole video was staged.", "I give a lot of people a lot of leeway but not people who treat everyone like shit. Don't care what it's called, I choose not to be their friend or partner", "because the title of the video doesn't have anything to do with you saying the guy posting above me is begging to be opposed. or did I misunderstand what you're trying to say? I prob agree that he's a dumb boomer living out in the sticks. I also know making that the post title is inflammatory.", "Or he's a clepto lol", "They say that it doesn’t matter what punishments are doled out since you can just not commit crimes 😢 fuck off boot boy", "It was almost certainly a discussion surrounding the stolen property, he just didn't want to implicate his buddy. He's literally like, \"no! Uhh... We were talking about it for a different reason!\"", "The poster handled this a lot better than most people would.", "And the loop has begun. If you don't want reprocussions, stop commiting crimes. Fuck off thief boy.", "The peak boomer moment was when he started with the attitude almost like he was going to rip into this guy for daring to call the cops but then he remembered that for now he wasn't getting charged and blamed it on pain pills and booze.", ">dude making excuses \n\nI love it when people make their problems everyone’s problems.", "Lol I absolutely did. I couldn't finish it.", "I am from the city but I hunt etc. Country people still more shit then I have ever seen. Our camp as well as my friends has been robbed a bunch of times. Like my buddy had 5 four wheelers stolen amount other things.", "Did you watch the video? Of course you didn't, why am I asking... \n\nThat \"photo\" is a thumbnail (a still frame from the video) showing the cop and the victim. Neither of them are boomers. \n\nThe thief, which is the subject of the title, mentions he's 60 years old. That makes him, by definition, a boomer. He is not in the thumbnail of the video.", "Nobody wants to hear your fucking excuses you thieving piece of shit grampa", "Same!", "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, i think if he steals again while whistlin diesel knows about it, he's gonna press charges and guilt the hell out of him. the older man KNOWS he needs not, yet he's been given a chance and if he does it again then he's totally fucked.", "He has likely been doing it awhile from other neighbors; as a crime analyst the first thing I'd do after the incident report came to my desk is check all the local pawn records, offer up/FB marketplace, eBay etc. He is certainly selling this stuff somewhere and I bet it wouldn't be hard to track down.", "If you are a boomer and look like 30 years old...?", "Hey, I’m a redneck. I never did anything but help people in distress. Please don’t label us with riff/raff. We believe in helping people who can’t defend themselves. We are patriots. Believe in free speech, self defense, and helping those who cannot help themselves. Next time someone is in a desperate situation they better hope a redneck is there to assist them. We do not tolerate abuse of any kind on our fellow Americans regardless of race, identity changes as is happening now. The people we help are all children of GOD. Please don’t let a bad apple spoil the bunch. Again please don’t paint with such a broad brush. I’ve seen videos of people getting mugged near the subways. Everyone taking pictures. Nobody helping. Just watching. A “REDNECK” could have saved the day. We do not stand for abuse on our fellow Americans. More people should help instead of being camera happy idiots. Do something to help your neighbor.", "good point, I was just thinking out loud", "o_O the dude that stole the stuff definitely doesn't look 30.....", "While I know y'all aren't perfect, and there's still some issues with your place, as a citizen of minneapolis (3rd precinct, as well, baby), I have to ask you, are you sure you want to give the force more discretion and power?", "For real I was kind of mad he let him off the hook , guess he really is a good dude or at least wanted to show his YouTube his compassion. But man that old fuck is definitely a professional criminal .", "Hopefully the town/state presses criminal charges. This whole \"I won't press charges\" is BS. It's the state's/town's job to bring criminal charges, not the person who was wronged. I guess he's referring to civil charges.", "He wasn't charged now. The guy whose stuff was stolen said he's happy to help prosecute if it ever does become an issue again, they can bring this case at any point until the statute of limitations runs out on it and they've got an on-camera admission of guilt to make it really easy. If this guy steals from anyone else they're going to be able to charge this case, get an easy conviction or plea, charge the new case, and now they've got a pattern of behavior to make the second set of convictions even easier. This guy won't get away with it a second time, and either he knows it or he's even stupider than he sounded when he was trying to justify it.", "Assume whatever you want, he still has those rights and can exercise them at his discretion, regardless of his motive for doing so.", "They may end up coming back and charging him once the report is made because the dollar amount of the items taken made it a felony.", "\"But I want it more.\" --Boomer Philosophy", "He also admitted he was driving drunk and high. This video was kinda of annoying. Like the cops and guy did a good job up until it came to charges. Like, this guy committed grand theft and they treated him so nicely and gave him a chance out of the situation that so many poor people in the city wouldn’t get. I wish cops treated everyone like this, but it’s just a form of privilege. While kids who steal small items and get harsh punishments and treated like shit.", "He got his things back and didn't press charges. He even didn't take the money the old man gave him for destroying his cameras. $1400....he refused it. On top of not sending an old man to jail. I see your point. This scenario could've ended bad. I personally would've gotten even.", "and how is anyone else gonna figure out it's him unless they spend a few thousand bucks hiding cameras and then spending a few more hundred bucks planting trackers on all their shit.\n\nhe absolutely will get away with it a second time, and a third time, maybe even a fourth time. until someone puts in a shitload of effort and catches him yet again. i mean how many times do you think he's probably stolen in the past given how casual he was at this.", "Calling it meta instead of Facebook is what's insufferable lol", "Faze, fyi", "You don't know that. I used to steal all the time when I was a kid, for years and always got away with it until I didn't. The embarrassment and all the bullshit I had to deal with because of it was absolutely not worth any of it. Never stole again. Shitty people don't have to stay shitty forever and compassion goes along way. Personally, I would have ruined the guy to the extreme if I had the chance, but I'm also not a high-road taker.", "I used to pop pills and get drunk all the time doesn't make me steal shit lol", "I'm sure losing your respect will cause him and his YouTube channel a lot of harm. RIP respect.", "Man this video taught me a hard lesson. Be your own advocate, ALWAYS. This guy 100% only got his stuff back because he was smart about everything he did to protect himself and he even had the patience and maturity to do it all the right way once he found the guy, as opposed to my instincts of kicking down the door and demanding he give me back my shit (idk what I'd actually do but when you're seeing red you don't always think too clearly)", "This is what is so infuriating knowing from the start they won't press charges. People who make these videos on youtube NEVER press charges. That's taking away from your community by keeping a known thief out of jail with no consequences. What this guy learned was to pick his marks better.", "He's a boomer upset that a \"kid\" (see: 30 year old grown man) has stuff. This guy's bow he's probably had for 15-20 years even got stolen because the guy sees it as \"abandoned\". He doesn't \"deserve\" the stuff he owns in this boomer's eyes. This is how all boomers are underneath it all. \n\nThey treat us like children to grasp onto their fading, wasted middle-age; they disrespect us because we're younger than them but act like we were old enough to know better when we agreed to student loans they pressured us into; they covet whatever we manage to get and act like we got it by cheating because they base their worth and success on how much they have versus us. And then they make fun of us when we have little.\n\nFuck boomers. Every last one of them deserve to have everything that they own taken by their kids who are rooming with 4 roommates to make ends meet and their crusty asses deposited in the cheapest senior living home where they belong. Can't wait for em to die and their conspiracy theorist covid-ridden asses are doing the job for us.", "White privilege is someone choosing not to press charges?", "All the numbers in your comment added up to 69. Congrats!\n\n 30 +\n 15 +\n 20 +\n 4 +\n = 69.0", "Stuff goes missing, cops show up at this guy's house. He's on their radar, he'll get a talking to every time something goes missing. Hell, sounds like he's going to be one everyone's radar in the community, and everyone's going to be watching their stuff when he's around.", "Yes.\n\nDA's might have a policy of involving a member of their office, depending on the nature of the investigation. For instance, an investigation into a suspicious death my local DA has a policy that they have to involve the homicide prosecutor.", "Wait, he didn’t get any jail time for theft?", "You're a fucking idiot lol", "> Everyone is just so cynical and angry.\n\nNobody gonna point out the obvious about a statement like this? lel", "He was returning them money they offered him.", "He sells merch", "This guy should have gone to jail and done at least a couple years of probation like anyone else that would have got caught stealing and damaging someone else's property.", "The guy on the thumbnail is the person who was stolen from, whistlin diesel a YouTuber", "Sorry but this looks super fake, I hope it's not", "Excuses excuses", "I can only speak for British law, but if I go to the police and accuse someone of theft, the police attend the accused\"s property and discover items I have reported as being stolen, I'm no longer needed as a witness, there is now evidence of theft. In theory I could say \"whoops, totally forgot that I said they could borrow all my stuff, brain fart, got a memory like a sieve\" which means you're now a defence witness but that might not still be enough to change a decision to prosecute or not, and in case, a court can compel you to attend court as a witness if it so chooses to.", "The dude got is property damaged and shit stolen. Who cares what he does? If it were your belongings, how would you react? I wouldn't be as forgiving as this dude was. I'd say it was generous to not press charges and not accept money.", "Since when is not pressing charges against criminals \"the high ground\"?", "First time I've heard it. Generally reddit has a hard on for \"punishment\".", "His story sounded like it was heavily edited to sound less bad than it was. \nAlso, \"I took some drugs and got drunk\" is an excuse that would only ever work for an old white man. Hell, there were plenty of people trying to argue that George Floyd deserved to be murdered by that cop because he was high at the time.", "meine Fresse mach's nicht schlimmer und gebe dich geschlagen", "I can now cross 'magnanimous' off my pokedex.", "He still got arrested. Admitting to being under the influence of alcohol and pain killers simultaneously while driving, destruction of property, driving without a license plate, etc. The kid didn't have to press charges because there are plenty that are out the kids power to press. The guy is fucked. Maybe read a book on law or something before making stupid comments on the internet.", "Free content", "The real answer. Because it's all going to be part of his revenue stream anyways, that $1400 is nothing in comparison for the good wills generated.\n\nThat's not to say it wasn't impressive to be so reserved and calm during that confrontation. Honestly I would have kept the money because it's part of how he was wronged.", "There's no excuse for what I did but here are all of my excuses for what I did:", "I would have pressed charges so hard. Fucker stole a ton of shit.", "Mercy isn’t heartwarming?", "The young man making/narrating this video seems like a good hearted person. \n\nI have some faith that the younger generations are really going to thrive once the stalwart generations get out of the way.", "The police do not make that decision, they provide details of the case to the Crown Prosecution Service, who look at the charges and the evidence, and they make the decision on whether to prosecute or not.", "Nice to see some police that actually do something besides take a report", "meine fresse bist du peinlich, wir hart du rumeierst unglaublich", "Could have taken it and told them he is donating it to gay pride or some shit.", "The definition of my father and my dad even dresses the same and has the same shitty goatee", "I'm absolutely not saying that someone should doe for petty theft, but i am saying that a 99.999% chance to avoid all reprocussions is to not commit crime. Pretty simple, yet hard for criminals to comprehend.", "Why not both?\n\nPeople act like he could not make a video if he got the guy arrested. If anything it makes for better click bait if he does.", "People who use the term boomer un-ironically will one day be the equivalent of the boomers they now despise. Lol", "Cops didn’t do their job. They have the power to charge this guy even though the property owner’s stuff was returned to him. The thief should have been charged and taken to jail. Man, if you’re the right ethnicity in America the law literally doesn’t apply to you. It’s sickening.", "This is a great example of the victims desire not to prosecute as irrelevant and a victim statement being unnecessary to get a conviction. I agree with you that in most situations you can't prosecute without the victim. \n\n\nHere, the motherfucker admitted red handed and on camera to the theft. All the video evidence highlighting the theft is in the public domain on YouTube. Police \"should\" have a victims statement detailing the items alleged stolen, and the items in the assholes possession. \nHe wasn't upset that he stole, he was just upset he got caught. I hope an ASA gets the report and says fuck it, its go time.", "Yeah the older ones are much similar compared to today's ones. Nonetheless, calling them the exact same vehicle except for a diesel engine isn't right. Those differences in design do add up. For off-roading, I'd take the Hilux any day. If it was comfort and long-distance touring, the Tacoma would be much more suitable.", "He spray-painted over the guy's cameras. This was not a spur of the moment \"mistake\", it was premeditated vandalism and theft of thousands of dollars worth of equipment. You're seeing an old man acting remorseful and it's blinding you to the fact that he's a criminal who had no qualms about fucking over his neighbor. You think after 60+ years of being a good person, he only finally learned that he shouldn't steal things? Thieves need to be punished. All this did was show him that he can commit whatever crimes he wants, and if he cries enough about it he can get away with not even having to pay for damages.", "I get the impression that he made those mistakes because he's done it before and gotten complacent.", "Yeah, guy has a few hundred thousand in that house & structures; who knows the property value.", "Any idea how much? Never seen this guy before but I don't know any YouTubers", "Lack of empathy is what you’re describing. It is a huge problem in the US right now. For example, people that vote republican.", "Indeed, POS guy deserves what's coming to him, he's only sorry since he got caught.", "Ofc, I knew I had seen this guy somewhere. Really recommend that video!", "Consider not being fucking moron.", "That explanation he gave was so terrible and awkward I skipped through it jesus 😂", "I still thought it had to be approved by a judge or something.", "I was absolutely hammered/high and stole something from an unlocked car while walking back to the dorms my freshman year of college. I was so drunk, I forgot where I was like every 10 seconds. Got arrested for public intoxication and they found the stolen item on me. They asked me where I got the item and I just told them “a car.” I was lucky, I only got two years probation. (no previous criminal history whatsoever.) It sucked, but I got what I deserved. In fact, I got off easy. Having been someone whole’s stolen before, fuck people that steal. There’s no excuse.", "literally admitted to drinking and driving", "Can that be DWI and DUI charges too if he just admitted to it in front of the cops?", "This kids parents should be proud as hell of him handled it like a boss got his stuff proved his point didn’t want the money wanted the truth his stuff that’s it the fact that he legally filmed the scumbag POS and held him accountable for being a lying thief for his neighbors family friends and the world to see is genius nothing worse than wearing your own shame", ">How much you wanna bet this POS is everything he complains about in others. \n\n100% he's a tough-on-crime republican\n\nIt's always projection.", "Well ya know, I took a couple pain pills and had a beer and thought I could steal some shit right about now… what a piece of garbage. Homeboy was too nice to let it slide like that.", "no because the YouTuber did not press charges", "> You'd think he'd be better at it.\n\nI've worked with security camera systems off and on for 15 years and worked with police on collecting and storing footage of thefts. The people who do this habitually get away with it for so long and they get lazy, brazen, or both. \n\nThe guy in the vid sounds like he's addicted to stealing. That's his thrill. That's his gamble.", "My partner firmly stands her ground that rednecks are fucking awesome and great. But hicks are a different breed that she identifies as the demographic this comment chain is targeting.", "Especially when he's likely living better off than most of his own neighbors.", "Well im not infinitely forgiving? If I was infinitely forgiving, in theory I’d have to forgive hitler if he asked right? \n\nIf you murder someone “in the heat of the moment”, does that make it less of a sin for you? I feel like I’d judge someone planning to murder someone and someone who flies off the handle easily and murders people are equally horrendous; I don’t think someone having more or less of a temper makes them more or less evil (even if they’re different types of dangerous). \n\nIt feels like just because youre able to be evil in a blind rage, you shouldn’t be considered as less evil than someone who has to build up the courage to be evil. \n\nDon’t you think both cases involve adults that should be able to control their emotions and actions?", "I was just being critical of myself, saying what I expected, not what was.\n\nAnd in reality the early 1960's is the very end of what anybody could reasonably consider the Baby Boomer generation (even though it's officially defined as 1964). The Baby Boomers were really the direct result of post WW2. Legitimately the children of 1964 could have been the children of the first generation born directly after the end of WW2...my generation considers Baby Boomers to be people who grew up in the 50's. The children in the movie Stand By Me were Baby Boomers, for example.\n\nAnyway, the point was more that it's become an all encompassing negative word for anyone older. We're just a bunch of simpletons who like to classify everyone in simple terms like \"Karen\" and \"boomer\"...but then I got distracted by the video, which I actually enjoyed.", "LOL right? Straight to name calling tsk tsk tsk", "I love how something so easily disproven has 180 upvotes. Where’s the confidence coming from about something you’re wrong about? They don’t need the victims permission at all.", "I loved how he got caught and \"humiliated\" in front of his wife.\n\nI also don't agree with the guy letting him off. Fuck that. He took multiple trips, took the number plates off and had a bolt cutter. Fuck him. I could have pressed charges. It's not the first time that prick has stolen something and you just let him off.", "Ok because whistlindiesel isn't a redneck? Redneck boomer tries to steal from redneck zoomer is more appropriate.", "This was pure privilege, man. Lmao I guarantee you this would go down differently if the guy was black. The guy wasn’t even fucking put in cuffs.", "They're only doing something because this guy did 99% of the work and he has money and influence.", "That’s a shame. I know of a situation where it was kind of the opposite. My sisters boyfriend assaulted her, she called police and reported it. Because she thought he still loved her she decided she didn’t want to press charges but the DA pursued it anyway. He didn’t get convicted but still was arrested and taken to court.", "Something felt a little contrived, but they would have had to had the sheriff's in on it and everything or it could have gone south quick... So yeah. Great catch. As someone who has been a victim of stupid thieves, right on!", "Whistlin Diesel has single handedly sped up global warming by a decade", "If you live watching someone destroy lots of vehicles and spend thousands on doing dumb shit with trucks then sure. The guy is actually pretty funny and a nice guy he just knows what his viewers want or what people hate(loves to piss off the haters). He has a pretty sick Audi R8 that he doesn’t destroy. \n\nMy favorite video is the hellcat on wagon wheels or whatever it was. That was hilarious", "What's a Superfund site?", "Sure, though your sample is biased: you catch the people who suck at it.", "“I will charge if it helps other people.” Such wise words!", "I think it's because for anyone that has been stolen from there was no closure, no face or justice. Finding the thief was like finding theirs and the blood that's been boiling from a personal incident comes back.", "Was also driving while intoxicated apparently off a beer and some pills.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Superfund_sites", "I think you're a an order of magnitude off, Google suggests 1m views is $4-10k", "Cool video but man this audio editing sucks\n\nI get when some people are accidentally closer to the mic than others, but this whole \"Crank The Volume Way Up For These Two Words LOL\" bullshit just gets on my nerves", "So then i presume you'd also not befreind someone with vocal tic tourettes who might constantly call people \"asshole\" or say \"fuck you\" to everyone they meet?\n\nOr is it different cuz they \"can't control\" what their brain does? .....hmmmm", "I wonder if regulators can just come on the property to check contamination levels because of the YouTube videos?", "Maybe the whole truck driver schtick was just a cover and he was really leaving for days on end on ops. \n\n\nHe's not alive to defend himself anymore so I can make up whatever I want about him I guess. XD My family history bout to get spicy af", "To go through all that and not press charges on someone who most likely will be a repeat offender... I don't get it. It's one thing to be forgiving; it's another thing to allow a piece of shit to continue being a piece of shit without any consequences.", "Lol kuddos to him I had a cop hit a guy with his car once he came back laughing that his shoe fell off", "If police aren't lazy, they should look up all reported stolen stuffs in the area within the last few years. I bet the dude has some of the stuffs.", "I live in a southern state. Used to be, you’d hear people that live in the country don’t lock their doors because they don’t have to. In the “country,” people don’t have to worry about thieves or unwanted guests. I guess they do now.", "Weird that dude stole thousands worth of stuff and faces no repercussions. Can't qwhite figure out why...", "Whistlindiesel (the YouTuber) is worth a couple million dollars, $1,400 is nothing to him. \n\nHe took back his actual property that had sentimental value to him, and plastered this guy's face and the remains of his pride all over YouTube. \n\nNot to mention, whistlindiesel is a stand-up guy and I think a large part of why he didn't press charges and why he gave the money back was this guy's wife. She obviously was clueless to it all, and just from that brief period of time had I diced a ton of stress through no fault of her own. He likely just didn't want her to be affected simply because she married a dumbass. \n\nHe got his stuff back, this guy will be exposed to neighbors and friends and he's gonna have to deal with these consequences for a while. \n\nAlso remember, this is big time conservative country. People don't take nicely to thieves and lowlifes. I know because I'm from a similar place. \n\nIf your caught doing shitty things like this, theres a chance you'll wish you were in jail.", "Mostly Good people out in the sticks. Mostly.", "Damn straight! Should have charged this thief! Probably been stealing his whole life.", "Yeah, he is and that is why he did this. And Cody is worth millions. I believe he was also concerned about their well being since he kept asking.", "Big difference between a Patriot “Redneck” and a dead beat drifter. I’ve been called a “Redneck” never a drug addicted person. Only tried to help people. When suits and ties are cowering in their comfort it takes a man to defend what this Country was founded on. Instead of filming dire situations get off your can and camera and lend a hand. This world would be a better place if we all just helped each other. Spoken from a lifetime “Redneck”. Speaking now. Do your part to help. Get off you can and camera. Act like a human being who cares about your fellow man/woman/child. Next time it may be one of yours.", "That is such a good insult", "Not the guy you replied to, but it is actually hilarious how inept and sheltered you are to think that skin color + social status didn't play a role in that guy walking free after stealing a bunch of shit.\n\nBlack kids are given 10 years+ for taking candy bars from gas stations.\n\nIt's 2021 almost 2022, wake up to the reality of our country.", "You're missing the point. \n\nIt's not about the decisions when given equal opportunities, or responsibilities of the lender. That's subjective to situation, education, talent, and luck among other things. Some win, some lose, some just get by.\n\nIt's about the market being objectively rigged to favor the wealthy. Money lending is just a shining example of the disparity.\n\nTruly equal opportunity to capital access, can't exist in a \"profits first\" economy. So you end up with regulations aiming to balance the field, rarely working, and actively incentivizing workarounds.\n\nAs an analogy:\nThe have-nots save up, buy pre-sale, and arrive early in the hopes to join the party.\nThe haves get to skip the line, avoid the surcharges, and party all they want. Do they also deserve a discount on the tickets? \nI just think everyone should pay the same admittance, regardless of the car you arrive in.\n\nAnd yes, I understand that's complete fantasy. I can still dream", "Ok", "Sounds like an Ambien high rather than pain killers.", "It is likely not his first time stealing something.", "All. The. Time!\n\nHe’s told me about a friend of our’s getting arrested twice today and a couple of times yesterday. He gets pissed off if I tell him he already told me about it so now I just let him talk. \n\nIt makes sense though if your dad had a stroke. He’s probably not gaslighting you, his brain is injured.", "Yeah it's such a bad strategy, if I'm a cop I'm taking the easy layup; take legit scum off the streets, pad my stats, and show off some professionalism on a YT stream? Fuck yes, all of that. I'm going to run for sheriff off the back of shit like that. Take the fucking W. But nope, let me cover for some no account piece of shit just because he's white. I'm white. Lock him up.", "I’d charge him and also take that money she offered.", "dude can put out 300K reward to find his dad's skid loader, he clearly doesn't need that $1400. Plus this youtube video will probably generate him more than that in revenue.", "If it isn’t already, this needs to be the top post ever on r/justiceporn.", "I am not posting this as any attempt to say \"I'm badass\" , quite the contrary, I have some serious anger/emotioanl impulse control issues and with that disclaimer I can 100% honestly tell you that after some crack heads broke into my home FOUR TIMES in a 1.5 year period that if I ever found out who it was even years later I would seriously find them and murder them just to put down the dogs they are.\n\nThe amount of torment, terror and even to this day PTSD that the repeated break ins put me and my family through which ultimately resulted in me having to MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT HOME make me hope that I NEVER (and I won't) find out who it was that kicked in 2 doors and broke 2 windows to get inside my home even after security measures were taken at great expense (and little effect). They only stole maybe $5k\\~ total in mostly consumer electronic goods (which doesn't even matter) but the sheer anxiety it put my family through like being afraid of LEAVING home without locking everything up and afraid of leaving anyone alone by themselves or all the times I was woken up to random noises at night and had to go inspect with my gun and flashlight is something I can never forget and forgive....4 times!\n\nFUCK burglars", "The thief belongs in jail. It is not his first time stealing and going unpunished he will steal again.", "100% that old dude is laughing his ass off at getting over on this dude. YT'er is an idiot and done the rest of society no favors here. Fuck them both.", "Would have been much better if the cops were like sweet so you admit to driving over there multiple times and toxicated and impaired I know he's not pressing charges but we're going to go ahead and slap you with a DUI and bring you down.", "How is holding thieves accountable a weird reaction? Sounds like a lot of victim blaming, pal. \n\nMaybe think about why you hate the younger guy here for no real reason and immediately jumped to justify the boomer thief with \"buh, everyone gets stolen from\", because THAT'S a weird reaction for sure.", "If I was a betting man I would say he has something like kleptomania and is just compelled to steal. It’s not like he took the stuff and sold it. He just stole because he could.", "Is that so? Cool.", "Not to mention the those same cops have been all up in robbers lair, and he knows it. You better believe them detectives went back to the office to look over any recent theft reports for anything they saw there. \n\nThis guy robs again anytime soon, he wants to go to jail.", "Evidently they do.", "My point was that not every thread needs to include the hypothetical “what if they were this race! This would happen!”. If the punishment wasn’t harsh enough per the legal system than that’s in issue. It’s not just an issue because someone else would have gotten it worse. But what do I know? I’m inept", "I honestly think God would just want us to take care of earth and would only really care about us because we're supper annoying and won't stop bothering them with stupid metaphysical questions.", "That was pure forgiveness - no other way to describe it. Great man!!", "Your comment means you're a moron.", "“There’s no excuse…” \n\n\nproceeds to make excuses…", "Wat", "That's not someone being an asshole to people. It's obvious what that is. Especially if you know them. I'm not talking about random people you walk by. I'm talking coworkers or friends of friends or anyone you have to actually interact with. You know if they're actually unable to control it or if they're just a terrible person\n\nYou're really, really fucking stretching here and I'm not going to play your ignorant what if bullshit game", "Probably a capitalist…", "Who is this? And what does he do? And how popular is he?", ">was that not every thread needs to include the hypothetical “what if they were this race! This would happen!”\n\nOf course people will say it every time, it's fucking true guy. And STILL happening every day in a modern society. It's said every time as a reminder, lest people like YOU brush it under the rug and try to ignore it and white-wash it.\n\nAnd it shouldn't trigger you to hear the truth when we have a hundred plus of years of examples and evidence that confirm it, and especially now that phones cameras are widespread and we can plainly see the difference in police interactions with white people vs. black people.\n\n\n\nOld fucker stole thousands in equipment, thousands, multiple felonies and was let off the hook for NOTHING. A weak apology.\n\n>It’s just an issue because someone else would have gotten it worse. But what do I know? I’m inept\n\nWhat dude? listen to how dumb you sound. Of course that's an issue? It's a huge issue. Do you even listen to how you sound?\n\nSorry you're tired of hearing about it, I know it would be easier to live the rest of your life pretending it isn't true and ignoring it. Whiney, white, sheltered suburban gamer baby.", "Vandalism, trespassing, impaired driving, lying to the police, grand larceny? Not a big deal when it's one of the good ol white boys. I guarantee you those shops/garages were full of stolen shit and ol cletus gets off with a warning. This was infuriating.", "Why even make a comment when you didn’t watch the video", "The felon admitted to being a drug addict.", "I know who he is, we just talking about his view ratio.", "This is the police the Democrats wants to defund. Think about it.", "WhistlinDixie is my favorite YouTube now. I really like the cave exploration video “you see these big spiders, don’t worry, you’re more scared of them than they are of you.” Also the wagon wheels on a hellcat while he dressed like the Amish was hilarious. He’s just a funny, witty dude who has a lot of money and enjoys burning cash. It’s entertaining.", "Title says BOOMER ..THAT guy is at LEAST 20 years too young to be a Boomer.", "He even took off his plates.", "Throw in conspiring with his neighbor!", "...Because that’s not the guy the title is referring to. Again why make a comment when you didn’t watch the video?", ">had to tell Doctors that their credit sucked so badly that I couldn't get the deal financed without a huge down payment\n\nThe only thing this means is that they likely have a lot of student loan debt. My ex was a veterinarian and she'll be paying her student loans until she dies or they get forgiven, regardless of the fact that she makes like $170k. Just the nature of the credit system.", "This. I mean, I get being dumb enough to know that he was a YouTuber with a bunch of money, still thinking he could pull a fast one. But man, not foreseeing that if he were to get busted, it would be very very likely that the whole thing would go viral. I like to think that he was so dumb, in his mind, it wasn't part of the possible consequences that would likely occur. Because, if not, that makes him far more reckless and crazy than just stealing from the rich YouTube kid.", "I thought that at first too. But if you watch the whole video, especially the part where OP returns the $1400, you can tell that not being able to pay for his crimes actually hurts him more than whatever pain would have been caused otherwise. The asshole’s poor wife even says she wishes he would take the money. OP’s rich enough to put out a $300k reward for a $20k item. So he didn’t need the $1400. Not pressing charges I think was perfect move and not accepting the $1400 is just the cherry on top. Ofc you’re entitled to your own opinion, but as somebody who day dreams about calling out pathetic assholes like this, I couldn’t have thought of a better way to punish him. Would you be able to look your wife in the eyes after this? I personally wouldn’t be able to.", "The amount of people here thinking she was innocent is insane to me. You don't just show up with truckloads of stolen shit without your spouse noticing. Maybe she didn't participate but she absolutely knew her guy was a thief.", "Did this guy go to jail? If this was anyone else but a 60 year-old white guy, they'd be going to jail.\n\nAnd my guess is the old guy has a pill problem that the wife doesn't know about (or he told her he stopped). So he's stealing stuff and fencing it to keep the pills flowing.", "Talk about a major case of butthurt. Chill out dude.\n\nGetting all excited about THIS?", "Am I missing something about rural american life here? Why the fuck isn't he pressing charges? The old guy was 100% going to come back and steal more stuff, painting the cameras is pretty damning evidence of that.\n\nHow the fuck do you get away with committing a criminal offense and walk free because the victim decides not to press charges, anyway? Can't the cops charge him anyway since he confessed?", "Welcome to reddit, where saying someone should be arrested counts as justifying their actions.\n\nIf you actually read what I wrote you would see that my complaint is with you, and other people enjoying and endorsing this content, and the hero worship and financial support of a creepy little rich kid.", "I think you're in the minority, stealing is HUGE in some countries, especially big cities. I got jacked BIG TIME in Barcelona, left the car for 5 minutes and came back to a smashed window and all my backpacks gone with camera gear and memories.", "His excuse wasn't that he needed money though?", "Yeah couldn't stand WD at first, then I watched a few of his videos completely and realized he's actually a stand up dude", "This guys entire channel is one big roast of ford and gm trucks as he casually destroys them", "People sleep on Cody's knowledge, he hams stuff up for the camera but the dude clearly knows his stuff.", "People with more assets put up more collateral. If they instead sold those assets and bought things with cash, they would also have an advantage over someone with less. You don't have a problem with lending; you have a problem with wealth inequality that would persist if lending didn't.", "I just think the message gets muddled once he started throwing in weird rules about shellfish, mixed fabrics, and when and with whom people can have sex.", "By far the most entertaining thing I’ve seen all day.", "Yeah a couple of teenagers I could understand letting them off the hook. This old ass dude who clearly had this shit planned out and thought he got away with it no way. I’d press all the charges I could on him.", "Doesn't he incriminate himself that driving under the influence? I mean, he has no reason to say that in front of the cops, and while I get that he was trying to make a sob story, this is one of the dumbest things you can say.", "you know, sometimes the shame is enough punishment to make someone change their ways. He's now known to be a shitbag in the town by both the townspeople AND the police. He's gonna be on good behavior because next time he's going to get extra charges and maximum sentence. The judge would be made aware of who he is if they didn't already know.", "But he said no excuses...", "Guy said he’s 60. Which is literally a boomer.", "Why are some people on here so desperate to give this guy the benefit of the doubt? He knew exactly what he was doing - he literally knew the fucking YouTuber - took some pain pills and alcohol, went out driving while intoxicated, planned out the theft, painted over the cameras, denied everything until the cops GOT A WARRANT and found the stuff, and then tried to “explain” himself. He denied until he couldn’t deny any longer and only then did he apologize, when he had no other option. Crazy that people are trying to stick up for him. The YouTuber was a better dude than I’d ever be for how he handled that, but he had every right to be eternally pissed at the thief", "the cops can bring it to state attorneys and they can press charges. The initial choice is for the individual to be involved as I understand and WhistlinDiesel (Youtuber in question) probably wants to avoid lengthy legal issues and court proceedings that would get in the way of his work, I think he truly does just want his stuff back. He'd probably prefer just to get it over with now and move on. I do agree though that he likely premeditated this. He wore a disguise, tried to conceal evidence of his crime and staked out the location. I HIGHLY doubt that the first person he robbed from in this rural area just so happened to be a major youtuber with 3 million subrscribers.\n\nI'm guessing he has done to before to poorer and less capable people who have no recourse", "I stopped. Excuses are bullshit and as a former addict, taking pills and drinking has never made me steal. This is what middle America junkies look like. This guy is stealing shit to supplement his disability check.", "why is he thanking he thief?", "And then you spend your money saved driving 45 miles each way to and from work", "From now on all videos on Reddit need to label the generation of the offensive pos featured.", "This is like a schizophrenic rambling", "Stand up guy. I was hoping he would ask if the guy would consider getting help / seeing a therapist after returning the $1,400 in damages to his wife. \n\nHe was already overly forgiving and appears to be empathetic, but if the old guy is truly struggling mentally or emotionally he might need a push to actually address his faults.", "He most likely just wants to avoid being caught up in length legal proceedings that will (ultimately) cost him more money than it's worth and likely end up with him getting no more than he would if they just settle out of court, I do think that the state should take up charges against him and look for evidence of other thefts that he has likely already done, but you can't blame a person for wanting to avoid expensive litigation over something they can solve right then.", "Two pain pills and a beer turned him into a shithead vandal and thief. Yeah, uh-huh. He’s a lying sack of shit.", "That’s WhistinDiesel. Check his YouTube. He’s not hurting for cash", "krass darf man mit 300 upvotes jetzt schon seine meinung geben.", "i hate the fact that the arrest/charges are optional and require work on the part of the victim. the man confessed to a crime for which he was caught red handed. throw the book at him", "Only a bit? Congrats.", "deutsche können wohl auch nicht lesen, schade", "Really? I bet the guy you're responding to had no idea he was a criminal until you pointed it out. Good job. Are you a lawyer or something?", "Epic", "You could also look at it like a pride thing. The man's wife was crying, he was humiliated, and when the dude gave the money back, it would have crushed any thought of \"well, I paid for my mistake\". He will never forget the humiliation that was caused to him, his wife will never look at him the same way, that might be a better deterrent than having him pay 1400$.", "Exactly. This dude's content has been blowing up, I see it everywhere. Reddit, facebook, insta. At some point he's going to be making insane amounts of money, 1400$ is pocket change to him.", "I wonder how long this guy's marriage is gonna last now?", "Also weird to blame the fucking state but ok.", "don't buy AT ALL. he's just really fucking hurt and scared he got caught. he doesn't give a shit, if he did he wouldn't be making all those excuses for his stealing. i was on pills, i was drunk, oh i saw those boxes, blah blah blah. total bullshit. clearly this guy isn't like me or you, we might not be able to look our wives in the eyes after this, but i doubt he will have a problem.", "No it really doesn't.", "They blame the inanimate objects (beer and pills) and don't blame themselves, the animated subject who took those pills and drank that beer, drove inebriated, and then stole a bunch of shit.\n\nHes a piece of shit through and through. He's got a big house, a wife, multiple cars, tons of property, and yet he is a sad sack of shit still. \n\nPenultimate white boomer status.", "I can’t stand a thief. I would have listened to about 30 seconds of his bullshit and then shut him up and explained what a piece of trash he is. Fuck him.", "Kleptomania is a monster all on its own. Friend of my dad's would steal the most random shit, for little to no reason outside the weird satisfaction it gave her. \n\n\nThe used to babysit me and my Mom caught her stealing money out of my piggybank that was in my bedroom where Mom put her tips from waitressing. Never trusted her again. \n\n\nShe got fired from work for stealing things from coworkers, gloves from the warehouse and the big water-cooler jugs (considered theft because the company gets the deposit on them upon return.) \n\n\n There's help for folk like that, but they need to acknowledge they've got a problem first.", "Props to that police department and all law enforcement involved. So efficient and effective", "I know I’m super late here but I totally agree. The old thief just stunk of scum bag. Honestly though the YouTuber kid seems pretty young, pretty well off, maybe hasn’t had to deal with much hardship in his life. Maybe he’s just not used to dealing with people of that old guy’s caliber and truly believes that the old man feels guilty. Some of the nicest seeming people are the most evil deep down. Still kinda hard to hold having faith in people against the kid. But yes he definitely should’ve gone ahead and pressed charges.", "Well, yeah. When he makes change in the offering plate, they're going to check that more came in than went out.\n\nPlus, ANYTHING that's gone missing within the last few years is going to be blamed squarely on him.", "He mentioned the one bow having sentimental value from winning it in a competition. I mean, you cant replace that.", "YouTube guy had a script in his head and was hoping to have it play out like a heartwarming story and the guy made a mistake - just look at the guy’s expressions when YT guy talks. He didn’t mishear, he just didn’t expect some people to steal even when not in need.", "What did the police do here? They only acted after a shit ton of evidence was given to them. Police didn't do shit. If the victim didn't have the evidence they would have told him tough shit", "Absolutely, white boomer privleege status.\n\nGaurantee he reads about inner city kids doing drugs, drinking, and stealing - and thinks \"this is whats wrong with ameruca\"", "When something like this happens, why don't the detectives go over everything he has in his house to see what else might be stolen? \n\nIt would be an extreme coincidence if the first time this guy steals anything, it's from a rich youtuber who just happens to catch him. He most likely has more stolen shit from other people who also really need their stuff back.", "Reddit hates rednecks because they typically vote Republican and that's a big no-no on here. The title is meant to encourage hating on him for being a \"stupid redneck from a red state\" when the focus should have just been \"asshole who stole\".", "Whistlin Diesel on YouTube and other platforms.", "What a douche. Thief making excuses. His wife should leave his thieving, excuse making sorry rear-end.", "This thief could have taken the skid steer but apparently in North Indiana thieves are not held accountable for crimes.", "I bet this guy blows his brains out in the next month or two.", "> He knew who he was robbing.\n\nYup. I've \"stolen\" once before, just completely spaced. Walked out of a gas station with a fountain drink in my hand while talking to friends that had paid a few minutes before. Felt bad 30 minutes later when I realized.\n\nThis was no accident, he could have stopped at any time between trips.", "Is this the same kid that does methed up stuff with trucks?", "The youtuber letting him off the hook for clout so the thief can get right back to stealing from his neighbours kinda pisses me of, not gonna lie. Like, it's actually selfish.", "Love how the cop on the phone sounded somewhat disinterested until he was like \"I'm right outside the guy's house, right now\". Cops tone changes to \"Alright we're sending a deputy over right now\". That's how you get cops to do things: Suggest that you're about to just do it yourself.\n\nI've seen this guy's offroad videos before, and I've always been in awe of the number of teeth he has. The glory of those pristine rows lol", "YouTube money", "I think it’s a lot less about the old man’s social status and a lot more about the kid’s wealth. Some people you steal from them and you are literally putting their life in danger. That clearly wasn’t the case here. He didn’t press charges because he didn’t feel he needed to and maybe (incorrectly) assume that the old man would learn his lesson.", "da staunt er der hurensohn 😂😂", "The fact he went to the trouble of spraypainting two of the cameras is more than enough proof that it wasn't a 'spur of the moment' thing. Especially considering he showed up twenty minutes later in his other vehicle. \n\n\nDude needs help if his kleptomania is that out of control.", "But in Hot Fuzz Timothy Dalton didn't press charges against the guy who stole biscuits.", "Seriously. The DAE boomers = bad? meme on reddit is getting fucking old. Most of the shitty things boomers do, everyone does. I mean shit, that dude literally just described \"jealousy.\"", "doch deswegen solltest du ja lieber die Fresse halten ☺️", "Good to hear the community will treat him accordingly", "I was once many years ago addicted to opiates. I remember once going through WD's and just entering the worst phases, where I was at least still somewhat mobile and functioning. I had no money, no transportation, no goods to pawn for cash.\n\nThe thought crossed my mind, \"huh, I have an elderly neighbor who lives alone, and she just left with her dog and nobodies home. She must have some small cash, or even jewelry, just laying about.\" I could see her door, I could see an open window on the side of the house. Nobody was around to see me.\n\nBut nope. I didn't do it. I rather enter into the pains of withdrawal, and flop about like fish while crying and begging anyone I knew to help me out and get drugs.\n\nThere is NO excuse for this shit. This guy got off SO easy. At least when that stuff happened to me, I turned my life around. This dude is 40 years older then me and doing worse shit.", "My impression is... that dude was not the least bit sorry. Oh, except that he got caught. Also, he had to do some fast sincere-sounding talking to avoid getting arrested. I feel sorry for his wife. If she ever had any doubt, she can now 100% confirm she's married to a POS.", "The DA could still decide to prosecute the guy if they want to. They've got all the evidence against him they would ever need, along with him admitting to DUI of alcohol and opioids, driving an unregistered vehicle (when he took the plates off), and using said vehicle to commit a crime. I agree the YouTuber was being too nice, and he also said he just wanted to get his stuff back. If he had pressed charges everything would be taken into evidence until trial and he'd be waiting months to get his stuff back. He said he'd press charges if they found that he had other stolen property and doing so might help other people's case. But the YouTuber is WAY too nice. The thief didn't say \"I'm sorry\" even once, and the owner actually said \"thank you for giving me my stuff back.\" I'd press every charge just to prove a point.", "“Again though no excuses.\n\n\n\n\n…but”", "and how do they have that much cash lying around", "Absolutely, his content is great. Really helps me believe there are just real \"good ol' american boys\" that still exist.\n\nWatch the one where he turns a monster truck into a seafaring vehicle and drives around the Atlantic ocean (yes in the ocean).", "Redditors gonna Reddit.", "You obviously didn’t watch the video", "This young man is a solid guy. I like his style. Totally courteous but vigilant at the same time.", "Sadly I think totally-human ted cruz is going to be the [canned soup king](https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ted-cruzs-love-soup-apparently-knows-no-bounds) when SHTF", "Same in Canada. The investigators (LEO) work with a Crown Prosecutor to decide if they are going to bring charges or not.", "Yeah perhaps I just can’t relate to that type of thought process. At least if i were rhe culprit, this would have been the best move to damage me emotionally, but I get not everyone’s the same.", "He makes tens of millions from it now.", "What a lesson.", "I meant more so with the police. They wouldn’t really factor in sentimental value more monetary value. Also since the YouTuber seemed chill about it they are most likely not going to pursue charges", "I would gently remind that almost no one ‘Needs’ to steal. If it were a steak or potatoes, maybe. Bit a tailgate??", "Says the person commenting on a video they didn’t watch. Guy said he’s 60 which is a boomer.", ">I’d feel absolutely horrible the moment he gave the money back \n\nThat’s probably one of the reasons he did that, and rightfully so", "that, and meth. meth dealers will regularly take items that pawn shops might not even take. so they steal anything that might have any percieved value, even for junk yards, and do it to get more meth. or pills.\n\nnot everybody, but a scary amount of them definitely do", "I'm not watching a 22 fucking minute video on reddit, sry.", "Probably told her he bought it on the cheap at a yard sale or something.", "Whistlin Diesel baby!!", "call cringetopia on the dudes explanation of theft omg redneck entitlement unreal", "The title is meant to encourage hating on him for being a \"stupid redneck probably from a red state\" when the focus should have just been on \"asshole who stole\"", "nobody got worked up but you", "I think what he meant to say was \"I needed to stream stuff to support my Percocet habit.\"", "Forgot about the merch. I still feel like he has a business that isn't featured in the show. Nothing wrong with that, I just think there's something else.", "You might need to read YOUR posts again.", "If the tables were turned my money says the old guy presses charges to max extent possible under the law", "I know it’s a long shot, but I’m going to put in the word at a good size JD dealership chain to try and find that skid loader. It has to be out there somewhere", "How to say T supporter without saying T supporter.", "I hate that actual junkies that beg or steal for bare necessities like food/water/clothes get treated like absolute scum of society but once you dress up a thief in a fancy ass house, suddenly its ok that the worst punishment he’ll get is some light ribbing at church. \n\nLike, fuck this guy.", "Oh, thanks. I don't know my flags. Just to make sure are the 13 colonies flag associated with anything negative cause I feel like it was", "Yes, technically the crime is against the State and not the victim. The cases are cited that way: “People of the State of X vs. defendant”, not “Victim vs. Defendant”.", "Rutherford County, Tennessee, so proud to call it home lololol", "\"Shame Mr. Skinner doesn't want to press charges.\"\n\"What do you mean, he doesn't wanna press charges?\"\n\"I'm simply suggesting that he's watched too many American procedural crime series.\"\n\n(Apologies to Pegg and Frost)", "In northeast Indiana where these people live in big ranch like that might be less than 250,000.", "I’m glad they are a group of friends and all together are stronger. Abusers are like that, they abuse and feel in the right because they get away with it. Until someone gives them a lesson like this. This was so wholesome, not the humiliation which is a necessary side effect but how he was disarmed. I really, really hope he learned some life-changing lesson and wasn’t only pretending. Well done guys, well done. Standing ovation 🙌", "I only needed to hear one thing in this video to make everything fall into place: \"I took some pain pills...\"\n\nThat's it. Opioid addict. They'll do anything, say anything, steal anything, lie, cheat, & steal. He didn't regret it. He wasn't remorseful. It was all more lies. I feel for people trapped in addiction, but people who are trapped in addiction are pieces of shit because they're not really people anymore. They're just slaves to the drug. \n\nGlad this guy got his stuff back. He was too nice, because this addict has stolen plenty more shit & got away with it, and he'll do it again too.", "It was a really hot, long moment.", "Yeah, he basically admitted to driving intoxicated on top of all his other bullshittery and somehow got away with it. Somehow I feel like if it were not an old white guy the cops woulda torn his shit apart looking for drugs and stolen goods and stuff. Whole thing left me super sad that the guy basically got away with it..", "I had a car full of tools stolen and the state crime lab was able to pull prints off of a tumbler he touched and left. Come to find out, the thief was a repeat offender who had been released on bond 3 weeks prior. I got my things back and his house was loaded with stolen goods. He is serving 15 years in prison because of the value of all he had taken. Fuck that guy.", "Ok snowflake. Cracker is not racist and never will be. Source: i am a cracker.", "Didn't the dude pay the thieves too?", "Even among thieves he's a fucking scumbag", "That is really interesting info. I always wondered how much you needed to actually live somewhat comfortably off youtube. Thanks for the info!", "Same lol", "Crazy he got away without charges. Literally stole probably 10k worth of stuff, admitted to drinking and driving, obstructed the cops so they had to pull a warrant... Whole thing is basically textbook on how the outcome of a police encounter is totally dependent on how those police feel about you.", "People can change. I grew up in a rough part of town and I've worked with youth at risk. I've seen it on both sides.\n\nNow, America is very good at sending folks to jail, turns out that is not great at stopping folks from committing crime. You won't find the counties with the lowest crime rates on a list of the countries with the highest incarceration rates.\n\nI'm all for throwing the book at someone who can't change but a lot of the wonderful folks of the world have done bad shit at some point to learn the lessons they have. \n\nAssuming the worst in folks leads to more bad shit being done. If people assume the worst of you, might as well be the worst.\n\nPeople have always been judgey, but with the onset of socials we have gotten really really good at hating one another for being human. Sitting at a computer a thousand miles away it's easy to sling hate. \n\nHonestly, hate on the internet feels like the only thing to do, it's not a great space for forgiveness and compassion, those both feel so impotent comparatively. Having put in the time with folks in similar situations though, compassion and forgiveness are way more effective tools than hate. Now, I know this IS the internet so I get the responses but it does make me a little sad to see just how little time we have for folks these days.", "K. Does that really matter, or is it just being pedantic? I just quoted the first Google search link, Im not writing his bio. Dudes paid more that most make in a lifetime either way", "Really impressive for such a young guy.", "Call him out on that shit, but also refuse to take his money and just make the power move regardless and make him feel like the little man in every aspect.", "Hmm he tried to gaslight, obstruct and you're mentioning projection.\n\nProbably the kind of guy who brandishes a shotgun if you disturb the gravel near his gate.", "He was definitely going to sell his stuff and use the money to buy more pills and beer.", "Been drunk and on Pills! And I didn't steal anyone's shit. I can't find my car, though.", "Fucking get to the point dude!", "And drive to people's houses and steal all their shit", "Stupid not to press charges. He won't learn a thing.", "Says the person who doesn't know what the baby boom was. It was an increase in birth rates following WWII. A 60 year old who was born almost twenty years after WWII doesn't really qualify. You can go ahead and google some arbitrary source which categorizes every person into a bunch of stupid groupings that have as much bearing on their personality as a horoscope but it won't change the fact that this man was not born in the wake of WWII.", "Hey, if my house was getting foreclosed on, I'd *much* rather sell other people's shit to pay for it than mine! I also have the moral compass of a turtle, and I know not to do that.", "He will make more than $1400 just from the traffic bump after this airs on the local news.", "Better than the LotR trilogy. There, I said it. Hobbit is a better book than any of the LotR books too. I have died on this hill and will continue to die on this hill.", "Lol why the hell he gave him this money back? I would press charges surely as fuck. I guess its for the views.", "Making excuses while saying he is not making excuses shows just how moronic this prick is. He should have been prosecuted , absolutely. This kid is too polite.", "Wife: We watch you all the time...\n\nThey knew he was a youtuber and husband saw all the stuff he had on the property and marked him. It was premeditated. Coveting your neighbor's shit and then going to steal it, smh.\n\nAll you had to do was befriend them and you'd probably get to enjoy all their stuff for free.", "Yeah he should've pressed charges. Fuck those people. They are a blight on society, and should be held accountable", "Lmao Reddit is too much sometimes", "I donno if he's a pro, but definitely someone who seizes the opportunity from time to time.", "Wow that school bus off-roading is insane... this guy is awesome haha.", "How old is he?", "Do I give young people or people in bad socioeconomic circumstances the benefit of the doubt? Yes. Do I feel nearly as inclined to give a 60 year old man with a sprawling property and multiple vehicles, who made plans and went back multiple times, the same benefit of the doubt that this is some little lapse in judgment or desperation? No I do not.", "My mom always has a lot of cash on hand. She says it's for casinos, but now I'm suspicious...", "“Again, no excuse” *gives excuse*", "I hate this kids but wow he make it clean.", "Seems like the exact demographic of a certain reality show star/politician…", "yup thats right dog food or fertilizer at least that's how it whent down at a packing plan i was at. it did get cooked down pretty hot at some point.", "No problem! For more context, I'm at around $100 for the last month with 15.5 views and 2700 watched hours. I only publish every other week.\n\n\nHowever, the views and hours alone don't tell the whole story. The creators have some control over the ads, my last video was shorter than normal so I didn't run any full screen ads. The type of content matters as well, if your viewers spend money, you'll make more money per view. Violence and cussing will reduce your money per view. And there are plenty of other variables.", "I sell cars for a living. 400 credit, $5000 down, let’s go!", "I think this was a setup honey trap to catch his neighbours as revenge for calling the cops when the YouTuber was doing crazy shit in trucks.\n\nAnd all power to him, to hell with theiving scumbags. But reading between the lines he says that he moved there and then left in a Month because of 'idiot neighbours'. The rotten old theif mentions the containers being open and looking abandoned (the trap)... I went back and watched some of his videos of destroying trucks and doing crazy shit and I'd imagine people would not like that at all in their neighbourhood. Again I've got nothing against WD for doing all this but I think there's a little more at play here.", "post ...hoc...???", "For real. If I was in his position, I'd like to say \"if I was drunk and high on pills, would you forgive me?\"\n\nReminds me of being in a similar situation. I was parked at a red light and was rear-ended by a woman 68 years old, and she took off with her hood almost bent over her roof. People behind her had her plate and the cops found her speeding through our downtown area about 5 mi away.\n\nShe played the old and confused card, possibly drowsy from pills and was never ticketed for a hit and run. You know for damn sure if I gave the same excuse to the cop in the opposite situation, I would have been in cuffs and hit with every charge they could think of.", "Definitely should have kept the money, the dude is just gonna keep stealing shit.", "Not in the same way, but indirectly we can, for instance by refusing to give a statement against someone who assaulted you.", "Guaranteed", "It was probably an attempt to scare the new, rich kid on the block. Localism at it's worst. And that's why the youtuber didn't stay there long.", "This has nothing to do with being a boomer.\nAssholes exist in every generation. Or maybe you think the Logan family and the Kardashians somehow have a better moral compass than this prick.", "Cletus has entered the chat.", "Family has a big farm, he atleast used to do some work there. It's more obvious in the earlier videos.\n\nNot sure how accurate it is, but from the outside looking in he got his start by using his family's money/land/equipment.\n\nYou'll see him in some casually pull out a $500k tractor for recovery, and mention he needs to be careful cause he doesn't want to piss his granddad off. There's plenty he has access to that isnt explicitly his, but at this point he makes enough that he's self sustaining.", "Fuck this bullshit.\n\nCalling people out for being terrible isn't wrong", "Homer responds.", "Love that you dorky redditors had to throw in “boomer.” What does that have to do with anything?", "Nah, it’s because he thought he was so smart he wouldn’t get caught.", "His giving the money back to the wife was a truly inspiring thing to see. Class act for sure!", "Except they literally are, pay fucking attention", "TWENTY MINUTES?\n\nCome on man", "It was to humiliate them. Folks like this absolutely *hate* the idea of being thought of as being broke or hard off. By giving the money back the guy was saying, in front of all those local cops, that \"you must need it more than I do.\" \n\nStab, and *twist*. It was beautiful.", "Good one.", "You can, but you can also still be required to attend a court hearing though.", "12?", "I can totally believe he was high. Explains his actions, does not excuse them.", "I have mixed feelings about this one. Whatever his explanation was about stealing and returning it doesn’t solve the problem.", "ah ja echt 12, süß\n\nletzte woche die erlaubnis bekommen nen reddit account zu machen hmm", "Boomer isn't a bad thing.", "He tried to justify it by saying there was a for sale sign and he thought the items were abandoned... and then proceeded to spray paint the cameras for good measure.", "\"I was drunk and being an asshole, so he punched me in the head. Waking up sober, I realize I deserved to be punched, so I'm not going to press charges\" kind of situations.", "\"Likes and follows\" at his scale is a stupid amount of money, dude", "Save you some time he lets the thief go and let’s the thief get away with stealing his shit.", "my jaw *actually* fell open when he told the guy to keep the money. i can vibe with not pressing charges to an extent, you got your stuff and the point across. but when he denied the money after asking for it and falling for his bullshit sob story i couldnt help but think the guys a naive fool.\n\ngonna get robbed again for being a pushover, and now its the ehole city that knows it, not just his shit ass neighbors.", "I live in the country in the US and have literally never locked our car or home doors...", "The closest he got to the truth was \"I made myself think what I was doing was okay.\" For a moment he recognized that the only person he was fooling was his own conscience.", "In most parts of the US the police can and often will press charges even if the victim does not.", "At least 6.", "Yep, spray painting the camera AFTER the crime eliminates the evidence.", "It's really admirable how non-vindictive the guy is. Had every right to bring the hammer down on the thief but all he wanted was his stuff back.", "Look at ANTIFA and BLM coming in to steal our things smh\n\nShould have sent his old ass to jail and sued for the damages. I wouldn't be that forgiving", "The guy that stole the property is definitely wrong…however, YouTube guy’s intentions with the whole thing seem less than pure and, since this term seems to be the new catch-all term for shitty people, narcissistic. \nSetting up a scenario and broadcasting the shaming of someone who committed a crime for your own internet glory and ultimately personal gain. That doesn’t seem like something a good person would do. So I say both parties suck as people", "Dude has stolen his entire life.", "Idk, its supposedly an addiction. Where i work this lady would steal milk, bread, lotion, toliet paper, eggs, even housekeeping rags. She was a millionaire, she was an rn and her hubby a very successful farmer, and they had thoroughbredhorses that they breed and sell. My work had to offer her help first before they could fire her, she took the help.", "\"I have suddenly decided that this random fucker I know nothing about is racist and expect you to believe the exact same thing for no particular reason\"", "Grant me for the moment that boomers did indeed have a narcissism epidemic. If that's the case and this man is a boomer, per the title of the thread, then it means this man is more likely to have the traits of a narcissistic disorder. Personally I think some of his behaviour supports this. But either way, that's why its relevant.", "> why is the onus on the victim\n\nIt isn't. I never said it was.", "Except he was kind-hearted. Not to him, but to the wife. \n\nAnd he didnt say he forgave him. Wtf is this \"forgave\" bullshit. All he did, was not press charges, and gave the money back to *the wife*. \n\nIn fact, he pretty explicitly said repeatedly, that it wasnt the money, he could afford to buy new stuff, it was the fact that he stole it. And kept asking if he was going through rough times. That wasn't being kind-hearted. That was forcing the guy to admit that he stole shit because he wanted to. Thats it. \n\nFucking \"genuinely forgave\". Foh with that shit.", "I attached my truck nuts to a chain so they swing around and skip off the pavement. It’s great because everyone can see how big my nuts are and I earn my respect this way.", "Happy holidays ❤️", "Or then likelier thing, he has an actual problem with kleptomania", "That old man is a drunk kleptomaniac.", "Lying to law enforcement and stealing from his neighbor only to mention numerous excuses. Despite denying them as excuses he kept relying on them for his reasoning. It doesn’t matter if his apology was genuine because he still committed a crime against someone that should be able to trust him. Maybe that’s a hard concept to understand though.", "Probably hard to not notice his trucks etc.", "smh....im guessing he forgot to thump through the \"thou shall not steal from thy neighbor\" section", "Ok boomer.", "If you aren’t making excuses, stop making excuses. It’s really that fucking simple. Shut up, own your actions, and take your punishment.", "This is *brilliant*! I love watching clever, mechanically inclined people talk about their inventions and/or explain ‘How Stuff Works’ (loved that show). Throw in a truly decent guy who isn’t out to retaliate ten fold and it’s even better. IMO he handled this perfectly. He just wanted his stuff back, but let the thief know in no uncertain terms he was NOT going to be stolen from or fucked with. Very sexy.", "Some people seem to think there’s a blanket procedure/policy across every community in the country on how these things are handled. There’s not. The correct answer is—it depends on where it happens. There is no one size fits all.", "You should've just blown my filthy cock to clean your mom's shit off my shaft.", "People bitch about him destroying vehicles but go to the movies to watch Michael Bay flicks where they would destroy 20+ cars easily lol.", "Not everyone who has the audacity to criticize you acting like an idiot is a Trump supporter, dumbass. Go find some actual counterarguments, or better yet stop being a moron.", "He is white. That’s all.", "if the theif has even a shred of humanity left (questionable i admit).. That will effect the theif more than anything else he could have done. It might sting, it might be embarrasing, it might be a wake up call... it might make him never do anything like that again. Granted, it might be none of the above, but i think it has a better chance at doing SOMETHING than you think.", "Go fuck yourself.", "Yeah that's still not a counterargument", "To show he’s above it all and he’s a good dude, u seen how choked up the guy got when he wouldn’t take his shitty money? He finally felt like a total piece of human waste for doing this to this chill dude.", "99% of youtube merch is cringe. I couldn't imagine wearing that stuff in public.", "Literally no mention of any politicians anywhere in this video", "Because he chose not to press charges. That’s how that works, lol", "I like to think that by giving the money back, he gonna make that man more humbled, then there's the wife, she will never let her man forget, and constantly remind him of that nice young man.", "He started off by fucking up his own work truck until videos started taking off. He worked construction.", "It's a joke. Obviously he's never finding the skid loader, and he knows that", "Yes. I suggest his multi part series with the toyota hilux.\n\nHis other stuff is hit or miss imo. There's some entertaining videos of him destroying stuff, others try to do the same but don't always hit the quality or entertainment mark of his better videos.\n\nI'm not into trucks, diesel, or anything of the sort but I still like watching his vids from time to time.", "You handled that with class.", "It was a joke reward, you didn't understand that....?", "I think it’s tougher when dealing with someone face to face, especially with how broken up the wife was about it. Hard not to feel a bit empathetic, and I imagine whistlin’ would have felt he was punching down in some regard as well.", "Absolutely highly entertaining stuff.", "Give me a break", "Pleasantly surprised to see whistlin diesel here. He's great.", "props to the dude for cooperating and being remorseful about it. Being an asshole about it would have made the awkward situation so much worse.", "They’re talking about a perceived emotion, how are you going to tell them they’re wrong? hahah wtf?", "He's a boomer so he doesn't care what his wife thinks because \"wife = bad\" according to boomer humor.", "> had horses\n\nLiving in rural US for so long, my default now is that if you have more than one horse and invest heavily in them you're either living paycheck by paycheck or heavily in debt. Those fiscally responsible are the outliers not the norm.", "Regarding your comment on narcissism. This term has completely blown up recently and is WAY overused. People use it to label basically anyone they disagree with or anyone that does something shitty. Most of these people are not necessarily narcissist at all, they are just shitty people", "This was all scripted for views", "I've seen this post about 6-7 times now.. glad it's getting traction... but really ?", "This is the type of guy that will talk nice to your face, stab you in the back, and take your wallet.", "Du er da udenfor pædagogisk rækkevidde", "The irony is that they're doing it extremely wrong when it comes to cash as a disaster relief. They should be hoarding currency other than the USD. If the US government goes to shit either full collapse or dysfunctional (aka uncontrolled inflation) you want a currency outside of their influence. This is why so many developing countries, especially illicit businesses, use US Dollar as their main denomination. It's stable and fully backed in value.", "I think the only way to make it just was to allow YouTube cameras to view the entire property so others could claim their stolen property.", "I think the lack of dog or any immediate deterrent made him assume these guys were stupid.", "It really cemented how tough the hilux is. I though the top gear test was rough be he really took it to another level.", "Unless you hear every sponsorship in T-Pain’s voice I think you meant auto tunes-out lol", "What a nice gentleman. I would have pressed charges and kept the money. 1 bow alone would have been enough to net this guy a 3rd degree grand larceny charge", "What world did this guy grow up in where it is understood that a \"wild ass kid\" is lacking in any sense of morality?", "I'm sure there's a whole lifetime of stuff she doesn't know her husband has gotten involved in", "I guarantee they took pictures or turned their body cams on for a period of time. All they need is a police report from this incident and pictures of something else that was stolen from another person and they can come back with another warrant and a list of other products stolen from other police reports. Then they can get him on bigger charges. Also, having that much cash on hand in the digital age and the mention of pills. This guy is probably into worse stuff and the police are probably aware of that and chomping at the bit to get him on charges that will actually lock him up for a period of time.", "He's 23, according to Google. But even in his early videos you can tell his a pretty smart dude.", "I'm a different person just posting the requested definition of a word.", "“Defund the police!” “No wait don’t defund the police!”. I guess consistency isn’t a liberal trait? Do you see how stupid your argument is?", "Yes the point I was making is his general statement is useless and stupid. Not that Biden supporters are all thugs.", "carhartt toque first red flag", "Lol I love that he ANTI SHILLS in his youtube video.. This is the hero we need.", "I have experience in Law Enforcement. I guarantee based on the way police handled this they used the search warrant as a reason to gather more information. They will come back again, they are leveraging this situation to gain more information on worse stuff the guy has done so they can charge for something that a good lawyer can't get reduced to probation and a fine.", "It totally sucks, but unless you do 95% of their work for them, they aren’t actively going to solve your case. They would’ve waited until this guy screwed up and then booked him. 5 years down the road they would’ve contacted this young guy to press charges. I’m not saying that these cops are bad people or anything, but if this video hammers home anything, it’s that you need to be your own strongest advocate.", "Exactly. The fucking kid should've pressed charges.\n\nWhat's worse if that I guarantee if someone were to do that to him, he'd little hunt them down with a shotgun.", "Oh man, can't disagree with you there.", "Love the 300k reward for a 20k deal. Lmao. I like how this kid rolls.", "That guy isn't a boomer. lol", "because this video is going to make him so much more", "I think it was jealousy, they all knew about the YouTube channel and the internet fame. They probably figured the stuff was easily replaceable with all the YouTube money, so they'll just take some for themselves.", "a skid loader stolen from his father decades ago... yeah, that's an empty offer.", "How much stuff does this guy have", "No charges and money back means dude is just going to keep doing this.", "I know this wouldn't have been the way to get away with it, but why didn't he steal the cameras too?", "The victim wasn’t made whole, and there is a psychopath on the loose living amongst the townspeople that has no regard for the law who has no fear of death and less of a reason to live now that this video has gone viral.\n\nWhy would you say he is unlikely to reoffend? Once you’ve made it to 50 or 60 years old, your psyche is pretty well formed. It seems unlikely that a thief at 60 years old suddenly changes his way of life", "That dude better not ever ask for a pass on anything for the rest of his life.", "Yep, he'll repeat his behavior. I'd bet based on how the police handled this, they want the guy to think he's off the hook. They probably got photos of other items or suspicious activity at his property and will be back with another warrant after doing some leg work and try to bust him on something significant. Technically they can still arrest him. Maybe they thought this route would make it easier for the guy to get the $1,400 back, which the YouTube guy should have kept.", "Or the reason he’s doing so well - he steals. I detest thieves. 😠 Our Ring security camera caught some punk take a package from our front porch, walk directly to his car parked at our next door neighbor’s, open his car door and toss it in then walk to the neighbor’s back yard. So I went to his POS car and took it back! As I was closing the door I happened to see a mostly full bottle of Coke in the cup holder. Lightbulb! 😈 I opened the bottle and shook Coke *everywhere*; seats, dash, speakers, floor… I’m obviously not as nice as the OP, and in retrospect it was a pretty shitty thing to do, but so is stealing. Still, two wrongs… Anyway, I went back in our house and called the police who got a chuckle when they saw the video. “So that’s pretty cut & dried, isn’t it? Thieves are too stupid.” I left out the part about the Coke, tho.", "Man justice is swift for the whites hmm", "I think I need a good movie to watch and chill any suggestions pls 👍🏻", "His wife knows exactly what he does and how do you think he got all the stuff he has ? He is a thief and he sells all the stuff he steals. 2+2 =4 it’s not that difficult", "Bigger man than me. After listening to him lie time and time again, I would not have any sympathy for him. He came back, so it wasn’t booze and pills. Was this a reason you were selling? Lastly, you had his dog on video too….", "He denied everything until the evidence proved him guilty.\n\nI bet is everything he complains about in others.", "Funny, I have locked my house or garage in the twenty years I’ve owned my rural home. No a single item taken.", "I’m going to throw this out there but maybe he can afford a big piece of land, 3 cars and a big house BECAUSE HE STEALS", "I think it’s discretionary if it’s a misdemeanor, but not if it’s a felony.", "Could be too he's got kleptomania.", "Are these people American? I don't think there was enough US Flags in this video.", "Stupid boomer. Has all that land and cars but still has to steal things", "Are you saying this whole video is fake? Just kidding, but it would be one heck of a production to pull off", "“There’s no excuse for it”\n\n-Proceeds to do list a ton of excuses for why he stole", "I’ve done mechanical repairs on rendering plant equipment. The dude you replied to is 100% correct.", "I never said it was justified or excused.", "He bought another one recently too. Excited to see what he does this time!", "https://i.imgur.com/ZqHKMT3.gif", "The dudes an opportunist, his mantra is probably ‘act broke to stay rich’.", "Sarcasm, right? ::fingers crossed::", "How did he know the their had an IPhone? Seems like this was setup", "He recent bought 2 R32 GT-Rs with Tomei cams in them engines and spent half of a video breaking the cams just by dropping them/hitting them with each other. I'd say that's a good reverse sponsorship", "Too fat for habitual meth use. Source: Grew up around tweakers.", "That was such a great review! I’ve thought about buying a proeagle Jack for awhile and now I can save my money!", "I think I'd send a letter to a bunch of the neighbors in the area and mention the incident. He clearly thought the whole thing through. He probably has done it before, and he's probably going to do it again. A letter to everyone in the neighborhood means everyone is now going to automatically assume it was him next time they have a burglary.", "Was going to say, last time I stole something while drunk was an anti weed video from Netflix out of a mailbox\n\nWhen I was a teenager", "Ok cracker", "Don’t know who you are young fella but you’re a good bastard. Well done for remaining calm and doing this right - that silly ole duffer has made a proper tit of himself and embarrassed his wife and family. I can’t recall him apologising either.", "Who wants to bet that boomer rails against \"looters\"?", "How do you think he got all that stuff? Probably been abusing managerial power and steeling his whole life.", "Different oils melt at different temperatures, so the oils are separated, the meal goes into ag feed and the indigestible matter is added to fertilizer. After the collagen is removed from the bones the remainder is pulverized and added to fertilizer.", "If you had an exasperated “give me a break” on your boomer jargon bingo card, you are a winner! Come on down and claim your prize of a lifetime supply of Werther’s Original hard candy!!", "And we always give Black men the same benefit of the doubt.", "I thought the same lol. He shielded the customer service from his criticism, I admire that.", "At the very least I hope his social life is ruined. Should be in jail.", "Dude is not rich by any means.", "Haha! This guy thinks Taco Bell uses meat.", "Sorry, Sparky, that dog don’t hunt! I’ve been on Oxy (legitimately) plus a few drinks - never ONCE did that combo bring out a thief in me. If you wouldn’t do something wrong sober, you’re not going to do it stoned. He’s an unrepentant thief. Full stop.", "Or when he threw the broken RB head onto the hood of his r32", "Man, that’s bs! The cops should press criminal charges even if the kid didn’t! Diesel kid’s got a good heart! I woulda drove my monster truck through his house!", ">If they instead sold those assets and bought things with cash, they would also have an advantage over someone with less. \n\nYep. Yet another advantage unavailable to someone who hasn't gathered assets. Leaving them with less opportunities to gather things like more collateral assets, land, etc. Catch 22.\n\n>You don't have a problem with lending; you have a problem with wealth inequality that would persist if lending didn't.\n\nWealth inequality will always exist, but people can choose to help their fellow man for an acceptable sacrifice. When the incentives are against that, something needs to change.\n\nI definitely have a problem with the inequality in America, but it has little to do with wealth. Equal outcome isn't reasonable. Its the lack of equal distribution of opportunity. \nThe lending system as it stands, makes inequality worse in almost every fashion. It takes advantage of the most vulnerable, while helping out the least. Lack of the same offers, approvals, and terms, under the guise of fiscal responsibility.\nIt provides ample opportunity to the fortunate, while denying the less fortunate because of their need.\nAll with more consequences and higher risks for the people that, often can't afford to even take the chance to begin with.\n\nGo figure, the people that can't understand the moral dilemmas of a fundamental economic bias, are usually the ones benefiting from it.\nI don't expect others to agree with my opinion of this. I just ask that they acknowledge the possibility of difference, and not pretend everything is fine and the system is \"fair\".", "Not pressing charges is actually you saying you won't testify against them in court, which makes it very difficult to prosecute a case like this.\n\nLegally speaking, all crimes are crimes against the state and you don't have the option to choose whether or not to press charges, but you saying you won't testify against them makes it unlikely the state would pursue it.", "Top bloke.", "Absolutely. But hey, now that’s “different.” /s", "Didn’t this reach the top of this sub yesterday under a different name?", "\"Well, here comes Stealin' Steve again. Better hide the PBR and the compound bows.\"", "Haven't you accidentally committed a multi step act of theft before? I went down to get bread last week and ended up with a truck full of \"second hand\" furniture.", "Was thinking how differently this would go down if not-white as well. Merka.", "The boomer is an example why America is the way it is - half the population believes they are above the law", "This youtuber is a moron. He should've sent him to jail. Shoe on the other foot the other dude wouldn't hesitate.", "The petty is deep, lol. Also know as the “principality” of it all.", "White privilege is stealing a bunch of stuff just because you felt like it, including weapons, with overwhelming evidence presented against you, confronted directly by several cops, and then the full extent of the consequence being that you have to offer a heartfelt apology.", "I made my assertion with a years worth of sales experience in the auto industry. Dealers back when I sold used the \"4 square\" system which has evolved a bit over the years. 0 percent is basically always the worst deal and I'll explain the process. \n\n1) Basically they try to get you to agree to a payment which gives you barely any information as a buyer. A payment is a combination of rate, term, and price. \n\n2) If they can get you to agree to a payment then they try to increase the price by saying, sure we can meet say, ex. \"$400\" a month with just 2995 down. \n\n3) they try to sell multi thousand dollar warranty plans for \"just\" $28 a month, etc. \n\n4) While this is going on they are shopping around your deal to creditors. They will try to maximize the underwriting/origination fees. The 0%/extra low APR is a combination of either rate buydowns (paying up front) or in lieu of manufacturing or dealer rebate. Some times dealer performance bonuses are considered (sell 10,25, etc cars for a flat bonus) so that's a consideration. \n\n5) Manufacturers use 0% to keep people more underwater in their loan to try to get return buyers. For example, Dodge would finance someone that is too underwater in their previous purchase so long as it was as Dodge vehicle purchased new.\n\n6) 0% is only good if you plan on paying off the loan its entirety and not trading in. Most people trade after ~3 years so often the rebate is better than a lower rate because the annual interest rate isn't realized over the entire term. Dealers take this into consideration and basically bet against you paying off the entire loan.", "Yeah, I had the unpleasant experience of a jack failing on me. The reverse sponsorship is well deserved.", "Redneck steals from other Redneck should be the title.", "no, I don't think they'd seemingly waste police resources for a video, and if that were the case, everyone other than WD would be really great actors. \n\nWhat I'm saying, is it never occurred to this moron that he should go back and steal the cameras... but he did think to go back to spray paint them.. That is SO FUCKING STUPID, but stealing the cams altogether is less stupid.", "Crime? But but but what about Chicago??? /s", "There’s your “Law and Order” Trump Humper right there.", "Yeah. Honestly that part trips me out too. How dumb can you really be. I don't understand", "Oof sorry that is the stuff of nightmares", "statistics. could be a visitor with an iphone etc. thats how air tags work.", "Yup, the generation that grew up without Social Media is the one with a Narcissism Epidemic. /s", "“‘Revenge is a dish best served cold’ - emotional detachment is ideal when enacting revenge. Vengeance is more satisfying when enacted in cold blood.”\n\nI looked up the etymology. I was hoping it had a better origin.", "can't believe he was stealing for sixty years ..", "My personal opinion is that if there's a narcissism epidemic, we are living in it now thanks to the advent of social media. \n\nThere are way more entitled twats walking around saying they deserve special treatment or they will leave a bad review on Yelp, or they should get something free because they are a YouTuber or on IG, TikTok, etc.\n\nThere are lots of entitled boomers, too, but my impression is that it's increased by an order of magnitude over the last decade.", "The principal of my High School was fired because she stole a rotisserie chicken and diapers (didn't have a baby), she made well over $100k. We think she did it for the adrenaline rush.", "22 minutes??? Nope", "Bingo. Ultimate fuckin power move. It’s about the fact that dude can *hunt you down* and have cops at your front door as your wife breaks down crying and you now wield the power to fuck over this guy’s life. Fuck the money, I’ll take that feeling any day.", "Whistlindiesel… at it again!! 💰 pockets", "The psychology of giving the $1400 back is actually a really good practice. Putting aside whether he (the person being stolen from) actually needs that money or not, the thief is going to actually associate the memory of this mistake even stronger because of how unexpected of an action that is in that scenario. If he truly was feeling he needs to change his behaviour and learn this lesson, that forgiveness will stand out in his memory. If that's not strong enough, the embarrassment in front of his wife, _wile also being given the money back_ will also further massively motivate him to stop.\n\nWill he? Time will tell, but I'd say there's a good chance he'll stop.\n\nCouple that with all the youttube/reddit viewership he just got about stealing, and heavy reason to never steal again.", "> How much you wanna bet this POS is everything he complains about in others.\n\nYou could have just said \"A trump supporter\".", "You wouldn’t as the CPS wouldn’t green-light a trial under those circumstances. The CPS decide if there is enough evidence", "That's shit and shouldn't happen either, but that doesn't morally clear you to make sweeping generalisations about others.", "Kid’s better than me. If it’s me, I’m definitely berating the old guy.", "Right, him choosing to not pressure charges before hearing that story was one thing, but I would have been seething by the end of that I would have just been like you know what, fuck it I do want to press charges.", "Yeah, I suppose I am pedantic. I didn't want you to feel bad about it, just thought it was funny.", "Bingo. He probably sells all this shit on Facebook or Craigslist", "Whistlindiesel is pretty self-made, I think he's hilarious. If you watch his older videos he's clearly not a born rich kid.", "Yeah, I collect model trains, not a cheap hobby. I go to estate sales, estate auctions, and collectors auctions to find the best deals. More often than not I find some really good deals, and buy several train items just to resell on e-bay to pay for the ones I want to keep, or use the profits to buy through e-bay or another seller. But sometimes I am contacted by someone who wants to liquidate a whole collection and contacts me to buy it, knowing I will make money reselling, but will pay more than they will get coinsigning to auction. Sometimes this is a widow. A lot of times they didn't realize the extent of the collection until after their husband passed away. Toughest part is when the guys left behind receipts or an inventory with perceived value. I usually just pull up a couple examples of recent sold items on eBay as an example so they can see the actual value is dramatically lower than they expected. But yeah, they were often oblivious to the extent of what their husband owned.", "I grew up in an area where theft of this sort was commonplace. It comes down to being able to get away from it. Because the people that are stolen from usually try to go through official channels and the police can't be bothered. In this video the youtuber wss told to file a claim to the police. The police claim it would be looked into. But in reality that would have gone into a file somewhere on a computer and never be opened again. They can't be bothered for the most part. \n\nAnd the people that steal expect this. They destroy whatever they can find that would produce credible evidence and run off with whatever they want. It happened to me several times when I was younger. Heck, I even had a neighbor try to steal my cat. Luckily we had him tattooed and microchipped.", "ok boomer", "It’s a PR move. The internet ate it up based on the YouTube comments and the YouTuber has probably made back tenfold what he lost on the vandalized cameras.", "Asking for cash and them having it seals this was not theft of desperation.", "Jealousy as well. Why should this kid have millions when I'm sitting here barely affording what I got with no way up? \n\nToxic mindset.", "Leaded gasoline messing with their cognitive abilities.", "He definitely isn't for everyone, and can be quite childish, but he definitely doesn't fear talking trash about trash products. \n\nIf you're into cars or trucks at all I'd recommend watching a few more of his videos.", "It is a tough call. This guy, obviously, can eat a $1,400 loss in terms of damaged property.\n\nBut if this thief was to steal or destroy $1,400 worth of property belonging to someone who didn't have the money to absorb that kind of loss - like this guy's next victim. Then it sucks that he was let go when he could have been charged.", "still waiting for my Hugo Boss trenchcoat and jackboots", "Dude is cool as hell for how he handled that. I’m sure he’s cool in general but just the way he handled that whole situation was cool to see. Not many people would remain calm n not take the money/press charges like he did. \n\nGood for him being the bigger man!!", "YouTube is littered with videos of people who are clearly in the wrong or caught red handed who chose to put up a big fight, cause a big fucking scene because they can’t admit they’re wrong, or are delusional enough to think they are the victim.\n\nI’m just saying, at least the stocking hat guy didn’t have to deal with that bullshit on top of everything else.", "He seemed pretty confident he had an iPhone.", "same I nearly missed the whole thing cause I seem to have this brain filter that forgets to remember anything ad related.", "In a small town, it’s a few hours everyday for the rest of his life, or he moves.", "He lets him keep the money after he gets it out which is a pretty alpha move", "Good point. Thank you for being so articulate and polite.", "I’m disgusted that the thief didn’t catch a charge.", "That person sucks, but he's the exception, not the rule. The question was \"what's more likely?\"", "His buddies knew and were egging him on, giving him advice on the cameras. You don;t steal from friends, but bad people or people you don;t know - open season.", "I meant our fellow commenter. YT guy heard him fine. Then pivoted to mental hard times vs financial hard times.", "I mean. Me and my wife lived paycheck to paycheck for 5 years and we still managed to put away a couple grand cash just in case.\n\nMy point is you could be 100% correct, or this could literally also be their life savings.", "Admittance? Altruistic intent?\nLight hearted humor?\n\nWhat is this, Bizarro Reddit?\n\nThank you, sincerely.\n\nJust a big woooosh on my end.", "He's also able to show the thefts were not out of desperation. Had he taken the money some commentator may have tried to twist it into now they may be in a bind or desperate due to unknown situation.", "What a jerk.", "This kid is amazing. He also sends out good messages to make the world a better place", "I think he didn’t accept the money for two reasons: 1, it looks good for PR. Plus the guy will forever be known as a thief now thanks to YouTube.\n\n2, the thief has to live with his wife every day now knowing she is judging his every move and anything he does. Goddam that’s worse than any court punishment. 😂", "I love how you specifically said \"neighbors stealing\" vs \"career criminals\" and these people can understand that. Then they go on and cite irrelevant statistics. Forgive the American public education system for not enlightening them with basic reading comprehension.\n\n-A Florida Boy", "Plot twist…\n\nWhat if he paid the old dude to do all of this and the whole thing is a scheme between them for views and money…Profit $.", "People justify taking a thing or two, just like their friends.", "idk I heard that bitch ass nasally voice and shut that shit off.", "Sounds like you really can't imagine yourself in his position. Thanks for proving my comment.", "You ain't lyin.\n\nI've heard of Graeber. Should give it a glance, thanks", "yeah, naw. Charge him you softcock, 'cause he's gonna do it again.", "The Omicron is just thriving amongst them, dude was probably wearing a mask because he's quarantining at his house. They should all test now.", "Cops shoulda arrested him right there for that confession", "Many already know from his boasting, and if anything will feel sorry for him.", "Well I do that too and I live in the city, and I've only been stabbed with a dirty needle twice. So there.", "do you even know who you're replying to lol", "I can: he's definitely under 6.", "Guy was never apologetic.", "I think he comes across as a bit douchey", "Like religious people give a shit lol.", "Oh fuck. I meant haven’t locked my house.", "Eh, he moved there bc it’s a large plot of land and he was hoping for some privacy. But neighbors immediately outed his location and were constantly snooping around around his property", "Im not a fan of you tubers i think its because im old 49 but this guy is pretty cool. I actually watched the whole video and i really liked it when the detective called him a stand up guy at the end of the video.", "Typical Reddit moment. Something with nothing to do with politics turns into bitching about trump.", "Redneck had a lawn jockey smh", "Must be Ned Flanders’ crates", "Fake", "I’m not gonna press charges or anything, but you and the whole county are going to love my next video.", "The level of disappointment he will feel from his wife for years will far exceed what would have happened if he had been arrested. This shame will last far far longer than any week or two long sentance. He knows she will be thinking about it. Telling family. Friends. Etc. It's all over the internet too. His life is done.", "Honestly I doubt it. That's a huge amount of time and work.", "Me to everything on Reddit: idk how I got here, but this was 22 minutes of my life well spent.", "Sounds like a 60 -70 something white American male. Use to range from Texas to Florida up to Virginia. Now the species is endemic to all of the continental United States", "Absolutely a Trump supporter. Guaranteed.", "What does this kid do for a living?", "While a part of me can admire the “turn the other cheek” attitude, these are the same “back the blue” and “law and order” dipshits that still scream about stolen elections. The only way people like this change and acknowledge their stupidity is if they are forced to. A little jail time does wonders to change the outlook of assholes like this.", "I was hoping the dude would hear the lies and decide to press charges. \n\nBut instead he let them off the hook and didn’t even take the money for the cameras. He’s a better dude than me. If you steal my shit I will do everything in my power to teach you the valuable lesson of why it was a bad idea", "Why you gotta insult Rednecks and Boomers? Majority of both are not thieves like this guy.", "These types of people get ahead in life by fucking over whoever is next to them over and over, if they see an opportunity to make money they don't care who it hurts, then when theyre faced with repercussions for their actions they're always super pissed off and surprised that actions have consequences.", "The dumbest part about this? No charges pressed. Makes it all seem fake.", "Damn I can almost guarantee that old man wouldn’t have done the same. He would’ve pressed charges and the whole enchilada", "The items where in fact expensive, and he did multiple instances of expensive property damage (destroy camera) to do repeat thefts.\n\nThere is no explanation for the police wanting to let this go.", "This guy is smart and resourceful- impressive as all get out.", "I bet they loved when Calgary flooded and froze a few years ago. Probably were all crying to Trudeau to come in and save the day", "He sprayed the cameras before he went back with his 4runner, but missed one of the cameras.", "Care to explain his mindset behind all of that then?", "The person who was jumping all over my case because they don't understand a Boomer was born between 1946 and 1964....not 1994? You can Google it up if you don't believe me.\n\nThis is a mobile App but it's clear I responded to the person who responded to me getting all over my case.\n\nConsidering BOOMER used by someone very young is nearly Always derogatory in context.", "They didn't say it did. The person above them was the one making the assumption that this would have ended up differently based on race. They simply pointed out that this is not necessarily the case. Just because systemic racism exists doesn't mean every police encounter will have a racist outcome.", "This YouTube is also quite the redneck…. I appreciate that and he has a new fan.", "I *understand* why domestic violence is treated as zero sum, but for a small percentage, it's *very* easily abused.\n\nIn the US, you have criminal lawyers hired by *wives* who call the police on the husband in a drunken fit; only for him to be charged when nothing actually happened. The state (generally) will automatically assume the statement by the wife is true and it's a nightmare to reverse.\n\nI've seen situations where the *wife* actually starts breaking things, attacking the husband-- call the police and the husband gets a DV charge; the state will prosecute and force the 'defendent' to prove innocence even if the one who pressed charges 'changes their mind.'\n\nIt's incredibly uncommon, but it is slightly unsettling how much power a SO has if they wish to abuse that system.", "ITs not always cut and dry like that. Some people steal for the sake of stealing.", "Pressed charges=no husband for a while\n\nBut I’m pretty sure she probably gonna leave him after this anyways, right? Maybe? Idk. Maybe she’s in on it yoo", "This is not the guy’s first time stealing. That money is likely from ill gotten gains.", "Victim is so hot.", "He certainly could but he showed a lot of class in bringing forgiveness to the table. Nobody is pretending that you can't do both. I'm saying his method is a better option than the setup the American justice system has at its disposal, which is one of the most broken on the planet.", "\n>They'll steal anything they can get their hands on.\n\nEspecially Amazon packages right off the doorstep.", "Did he really just admit to drinking, taking pain pills and driving under the influence on his way to steal the kids stuff or did I miss hear that?", "Let’s not treat cash like some malicious means of wealth retention. Cash is a valid form of savings.", "Why would you trust someone who steals from you?", "What are you talking about? Being a colossal douchebag has nothing to do with age, race, or gender. I promise there are absolutely terrible people that come in all types of human and I know of no reason to think there's more here or there (and I find it deeply racist to think this way).", "lol yeah, love him or hate him, a person doesn’t achieve what he has without a good head on his shoulders", "This guy is incredibly nice to not press charges. I sure would.", "Loads of white privilege happening here", "Oh, I believe he's on pills.\n\nHe's surely on disability, and crushes the pills to get high.", "This is the first \"full length\" YouTube video I've watched in like 9 years. Really impressive", "He should have been charged.", "Lmao that’s justice 🤣😂🤭😬", "Fuck I take a couple pills and drink a beer, and I just turn into an exaggerated version of my self. Which is a happy go lucky dork that likes her dogs and wife. That's what intoxication does to you, it exaggerates your personality. It's such bullshit, he's just an entitled fucker.", "That is for sure what it is, the old dude is mad because this guy has all this money and \"doesnt even have to work for it.\" \"I had to work hard to get where I got, not just make some silly truck videos, I'm gonna steal all his shit.\" As he pops another percocet and takes a swig of Busch lite.", "Self realization is great but if you dont act on those profound revelations they are about as\nmeaningful as not having them.\n\nWords dont matter. Actions do.\n\nThats the point you're missing.", "I always put jack stands under frame locations after raising the vehicle even just for quick things like oil changes.\n\nThen again Ive always had old jacks that slowly lower over time haha anyway", "I think there’s a good chance she might leave him if this really is out of the blue.", "Home invaders in general are scum.", "Probably the exact same as the guy in the video given that the victim declined to press charges.", "He didn’t get charged because the victim didn’t want to press charges. Did you watch the video?\n\nThe DA could elect to press charges still but the video uploaded did not provide that information.", "He’s going to steal", "Well now here’s the $1400 we stole from those other people.", "I’m gonna go find this skid loader and trade it for a house. Lol", "“Oh, lots of pricey items keep randomly appearing on our property. Nothing suspicious going on in this house!”", "The best thing he said was something along the lines of, I convinced myself I wasn't doing anything wrong. \n\nEverything else was pure bullshit, at least that line most likely had truth to it.", "Imagine deciding to hate this guy after the person he stole from forgave him.\n\nRedditors just puckering their butts over stuff that isn’t even their business. Lol", "A random youtuber's success as part of an era when people are upending decades' old hierarchies in the media and advertising industry by self publishing and doing things on their own terms, when they feel like it, is a weird time to complain about inequality of opportunity", "Ahhh, ok. I honestly wondered why the cops were there at all and it happened so quickly too. Sad state of affairs when that's our thoughts.", "I’d say he wasn’t forgiving if the guy posted the video for ridicule", "I couldn’t believe when the YouTuber gave the $1400 cash back after all this. Regardless of the impact on the family, I would have got my belongings back, got the $1400 for the spray painted cameras, and charged the boomer with theft. The YouTuber is too nice about this", "Well if his wife divorces him and leaves with half, he won’t have gotten off so scot* free.", "I guess you didn’t watch that part of the video. Multiple times he says people make mistakes and forgives him. \n\nObviously the idea is to shame him and that’s awesome, but hating him is different.\n\nLot of hate in the comments", "What a classy guy. He could’ve made it way worse for the thief but he got the justice he wanted. Respect", "You forget to add his own explanation. “A coupla pain pills and a beer”", "You make me look bad!", "300k reward for finding a skid loader? I'm moving to Indiana and finding it.", "Oh sorry, mistook what youd said.\n\n\nYeah this video would have worked just fine if everyone had been blurred to protect id", "Why make peace with the thief just to then broadcast him on the internet and humiliate him over and over again?", "More than enough evidence of multiple felonies, including obstruction, without the victims cooperation. A victim does not have to press charges for charges to be pursued or arrests made. \n\nThis is especially common in domestic violence incidents where whether the victim wants to press charges or not, most jurisdictions will pursue them anyway.\n\nDo I think they’d be so lenient if skin color was different? No", "You do understand that just speaking out of your ass doesn't constitute evidence, don't you?\n\nHe insists \"there is no way I am incorrect\" yet his entire body of evidence amounts to videos he's seen on Reddit.\n\nAnd you're surprised people are calling out his bullshit?\n\nWhere's the evidence that Germany's near identical theft rates are due to career criminals while in the U.S. it's just normal people?\n\nThat idiot can't provide any evidence of that. Can *you?*", "I agree, but I think punishment should primarily involve shame in a civilized society.\n\nPrison should be exclusive to those that don’t mind shame, and will continue to crime after they’ve been through it. \n\nI say we bring in the shame walk from GoT for most crimes.", "Totally agree, he just puts on this act of “oh god I don’t know what came over me, I’ll never do it again!”", "And now everyone saw what he did.", "Man. Having a weed farm is stressful.", "Just admitted to DUI. But of course the good ol boys won’t criminalize that.", "The officers filed a report. They had the victim sign it. They will file it and the DA can elect to press charges. \n\nIf you’re going to bring up race, then provide a contradictory example.\n\nThis is in no way equitable to DV. Given that the victim got his property back and was made whole, it was effectively a victimless crime. Someone getting physically injured is not victimless.", "Exactly. Not taking the money back is such a much harder blow to your average redneck dude. He will never forget or live that down.", "\"Their customer service is great and they brag about that", "I subscribed", "He will forget it the next election cycle when he votes Republican because of ‘all these thieving criminal n****** are taking over Murica, we need to keep it for honest folk like me’", "What a pile of shit he has prolly been doing it flr ever and finally got caught . Good\nFor Ypu !", "Ah… the joys of Reddit.", "He couldn’t even say he’s not gonna steal again. Of course he is. This is his business. He has an LLC. Low Life Criminal", "He probably brings stuff home all the time. This could be easily explained away by saying he went to an auction.", "Yeah I do as well - I still feel nervous though lol.", "Its fake", "Nice job proving you have poor reading comprehension too. Where was I defending him? I'm not going to get involved in this petty, bottom of the comment section, kerfuffle. Also nice power move down voting a two up vote comment, lmao. Go take a walk or do something productive for Christ's sake.", "He probably had all that stuff because he's a thief.\n\nHe came clean when the search warrant showed up because he didn't want to let the police find all the other stolen property and the meth lab he is probably ruining.\n\nWhat a complete asshole.\n\nIt was magnanimous of the kid to let him off, but I wish he hadn't.", "Why do boomers think excuses=apology? They don't. They actually work against expressing true remorse.\n\nLike, literally would rather you just not say a fucking word of you're going to try to explain away your bad behavior instead of take responsibility for it.", "What did the police do?", "I think he was playing a sympathy con job, and here's why:\n\nIf I were to \"impulsively\" steal stuff from my neighbor (assuming I lived in this kind of situation), I'd ram his gate with my truck or bust the lock off with a sledge hammer, load up as much as I could without thought to what it was worth, and drive away as quickly as I could. *Maybe* I'd have enough clear-headedness to not drive straight home. \n\nIf I were on an impulsive drunken theft bender, what I would *not* do is: find some spray paint, black out the cameras, remove my license plate, bring bolt cutters, wear a mask, and spend over 20 minutes inside the property being selective about what I stole. This was an awful lot of planning put into it to happen while under the influence. But, he has likely been in this position before, and knew exactly what to say to elicit sympathy in hope of getting the charges dropped or at least a slap on the wrist. Likely the only talking-to his wife gave him was to be more careful next time.", "I loved that he big leagued him at the end there with the money. big dick energy.", "I’d totally understand ppl who’d press charges, but I respect the guy for just taking his stuff back. I think the decision had more to do with the, as far as we know innocent wife who’d probably be affected just as badly as the thief.", "That’s pretty awesome of him.", "\"Can you believe he was almost going to *pay* me for stealing his shit?\"", "Lol happy holidays!", "Too bad that he was a boomer, else this post wouldnt have \ngotten 38k up? Or what is that description supposed to tell us?", "It sure is what evidently means.", "Eh. Wives always know. She’s not that “confused”. At the same time, it’s not like she could ever stop him from being who he is so…", "How do you think rich people get rich?", "\"wow, I feel like such an idiot\"\n\nWhat? As if you'd be forgiven and praised if you stole cleverly? Your despicable example of the typical rural shitkicker.", "I'm an obligate pedant when it comes to spelling. It's a character flaw and I apologize.", "What a ride. Dudes doin yeoman’s work. 300k on a 10k skid-steer…… what’s not to love? Hope he gets it back.", "Wow, I guess all of Candace Owen's opinions on black people are validated in your eyes.", "> You don’t get an option to press charges on property damage and theft over 900$\n\nDepends on the state, and with an Unwilling Victim it's highly unlikely a DA would charge for theft.\n\n>you don’t get to make the decision if someone is going to be charged in a dui.\n\nThere is no evidence of a dui besides an inadmissible statement made to someone other than the police.\n\nA 3rd year college student **thinking** about going to law school could get that charge dropped.\n\n>This is a classic example of systemic racism of the American justice system.\n\nNope.\n\n\nYou are just reaching as hard as you can for any weird bias that you can imagine.", "If you think cracker is a slur you can join candace in the madness she is projecting.", "*No *one* likes you", "Did she ever acknowledge the DVD? Are you speaking now? I’m hooked and need an update on this story.", "He was way too nice to him. The thief's lame sob story to try to get out of getting charged was pathetic. I absolutely would have pressed charges and given him a piece of my mind. I get that giving them money was an attempt at humiliating him but he did not deserve any money. He deserved prosecution.", "I saved the video for later, thinking it was spicy, but it's just these guys sitting in their car talking shit about the guy for most of it.\n\nAnd then he gets his stuff back and doesn't press charges.\n\nWhat a waste of time.", "Spot on. When you've messed up enough to get every LEO with spare time parked in your front yard, you don't need criminal charges or the youtube video for it to get around. If anything that video might pour cold water on the more outlandish rumours since it doesn't change every time it's shared.", "How do you think he got the property, cars, and houses? \n\n​\n\nBy stealing workers' wages and healthcare benefits, most likely.", "Looks like he picked the wrong week to quit sniffin' glue!!", "I feel you, but these are people who wouldn't consider foreign currency as an option. 'If the USA is dead, all the other countries have been dead for weeks' sort of supremacist types we're talking about. Plus, it's worth noting that in rural areas a lot of transactions are still cash only. In my area many retailers are cash or check only and any dealing you do with individuals in the community are always going to be cash only. So it's handy to have a few thousand in the safe for everyday reasons as well as world ending reasons.", "What are you doing step crate?", "We’re in your walls…", "Yeah, I would add reloading supplies to my list.", "Good on the both of them honestly. The world would be a better place if things were handled this calmly on both sides.", "He was setting up a bait with the tags, but ended up not needing it bc he saw the offending car in his neighbors driveway.", "Plastic wheels on a floor jack... I can't even.", "He never said he did it for money though. He said he just saw the stuff and decided to take it.", "According to the US department of Justice 65% of burglary victims know the burglar. According to a research article in the sociology and criminology Open Access journal, that percentage is 33% in Germany. That's the best info I could find, take from that what you will. This information is very hard to get, as we only have information on solved cases, which tend to be less than 10% of all burglaries. Also, obviously, you can be a neighbor and not know the person you're stealing from. But I do think this lends some credence to his argument.\n\nI can go get those sources if you would like but I really don't feel like doing that right now. Copying and pasting on mobile is exhausting. Also he isn't moving the goal post you're just looking to the wrong end of the field. Not talking about overall crime he's talking about crime between neighbors. It's a simple but important distinction.", "Just curious, but how expensive? And which items? Not knowing anything about this stuff, just seeing it in the video, I can't imagine it costing more than 20k or so total. But again, I don't know anything about this stuff, it's just a number I pulled out of the air.", "According to the US department of Justice 65% of burglary victims know the burglar. According to a research article in the sociology and criminology Open Access journal, that percentage is 33% in Germany. That's the best info I could find, take from that what you will. This information is very hard to get, as we only have information on solved cases, which tend to be less than 10% of all burglaries. Also, obviously, you can be a neighbor and not know the person you're stealing from. But I do think this lends some credence to his argument.\n\nHe said you can't read because he's talking about crime between neighbors and not overall crime. Maybe before doing that quick Google search you should actually read what he wrote.", "Cope", "I based my opinion of him based on his actions.", "According to the US department of Justice 65% of burglary victims know the burglar. According to a research article in the sociology and criminology Open Access journal, that percentage is 33% in Germany. That's the best info I could find, take from that what you will. This information is very hard to get, as we only have information on solved cases, which tend to be less than 10% of all burglaries. Also, obviously, you can be a neighbor and not know the person you're stealing from. But I do think this lends some credence to his argument.", "According to the US department of Justice 65% of burglary victims know the burglar. According to a research article in the sociology and criminology Open Access journal, that percentage is 33% in Germany. That's the best info I could find, take from that what you will. This information is very hard to get, as we only have information on solved cases, which tend to be less than 10% of all burglaries. Also, obviously, you can be a neighbor and not know the person you're stealing from. But I do think this lends some credence to his argument.", "You think the outcome would be the same if he was black?", "Just him not pressing charges on a white guy, or do you have actual evidence now?", "Lol yeah, said he was on pills and had a few beers and then drove to check it out and steal. So admits to being intoxicated and driving and stealing, and cops don’t do shit about it.", "Seeing countless interactions between the police and black people.", "I think its ok to point out social inequities as long as social inequities exist. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.", "You think you're proving something by taking isolated incidents from two different police departments in different states? Seems more of a small-town thing than a racist thing.", "He knew exactly who he was stealing from. The ass was jealous and did like a YouTube kid doing better than him.", "Were no 'hard times' with that SOB, not with that big class A motorhome worth at least $150,000 for a 10 year old one, plus nice large garage / barn, etc. But maybe the next 'temptation' he'll think about it longer before stealing stuff.", "yes he should have been arrested. He fucking stole things and destroyed property.\n\nIf he was black he would have been arrested. If he was black and argued with the cops like this guy did there is a good chance he would be dead.", "Which actions?", "If it was a one off video then yeah, it's not worth anything crazy, but for brands like him the CPM \n isn't that relevant because the ad revenue is just a small part of the total income. He has 3.1m YT subs, literally all his videos get 2m+ views and he posts several a month. He also has 1.4m on ig. Some sponsors pay 50k for just a mention by someone with such a profile. He also has a large merch store. This guy made *at least* a couple of million in 2021.", ">It must be hard getting through daily life if you feel the need to bring absolutely everything down to racial inequality, even when everyone involved is a single race.\n\n\nYou know and I know that if he was black he would be arrested.\n\n>Who's more racist - someone who can view a situation without thinking about race, or someone who manages to bag out a certain race in absolutely everything they see, even if there was only one race involved?\n\nThe former. The guy who pretends racism doesn't exist.", "How do you think he makes his money.", "I just had to skip past it. If he was even remotely sorry he would have broke down right when the police showed up from shame. Instead he was doing the whole get a warrant thing. Clearly only \"sorry\" because he was caught.", "And in fact rewarding him. He is absolutely going to keep stealing and do it better next time.", "I love you", "1) I would have pressed charges\n2) This guy is probably in his 40-50s which would make him a Gen X not a boomer.", "Unnecessary? Sure\n\nAccurate? Yes.", "Wow that was weird on so many different levels. I have never seen anyone that was caught as red handed as this guy who didn’t get cuffed, taken in and locked up. I’m pretty sure that the DA can still file charges but…… I really feel sorry for his wife but then again she might’ve been a accomplice.", "How is that white privilege? You would need an instance of the same police department acting in the opposite manner towards other races. \n\nDo you think it would be difficult for me to find an example of a non-white getting away with a crime they committed without a reasonable doubt?", "He would have taken the money but he can tell this old shit head is a terrible person and it's really his wife thats paying out the money.", "According to the US department of Justice 65% of burglary victims know the burglar. According to a research article in the sociology and criminology Open Access journal, that percentage is 33% in Germany. That's the best info I could find, take from that what you will. This information is very hard to get, as we only have information on solved cases, which tend to be less than 10% of all burglaries. Also, obviously, you can be a neighbor and not know the person you're stealing from. But I do think this lends some credence to his argument.", "He’s 60. He says it himself in the video.\n\nThat means he was born in ‘61– which makes him a boomer.", "I agree it would have been appropriate to press charges. He's stealing from neighbors to buy opiates.", "First, a shout out to the parents of this young man on raising such a handsome , confident, intelligent and compassionate individual. For a young person to be moved by his emotions and pardon their debt is uncommon. This kid has a lot of potential. Parents, you should be proud ! Also: What an entertaining infomercial for Apple air tags ( i think I’ll buy some now!). Apple should at the very least give this kid some credit. And that face ! Made for film and television. Muah!", ">I'm not that familiar with how the law works in a case like this. Does someone have to press charges? \n\nNo a person doesn't have to press charges in order for the police to choke the suspect, shoot the subject, kneel on the neck of the subject, to kick open a door and shoot the subject in bed, shoot the subject while the subject is lying on the ground with his hands up begging the police to not shoot a mentally ill child etc.\n\n>Can they not just arrest the guy and press charges themselves? He definitely broke the law.\n\nYea they can.", "Yea not pressing charges and also giving them their money back.", "The hunter practices “catch and release” when the prey isn’t trophy worthy. In this case, he caught the wrong demographic in his crime trap.", "Lol? What exactly is your problem with this? What is the importance of these Racial/Wealth dynamics to you? Make your point.", "I don't pretend racism doesn't exist, I just don't go looking for racism in *every possible human interaction*, or try to come up with race-based assumptions in every situation where racial difference hasn't played any part.\n\nYou're just looking for excuses to rile people up and be racist under the guise of being ultra-woke or something.", "Weird that you take issue with me calling him a boomer— *which he is by definition*— but you have absolutely no problem with me calling him a redneck, which is an entirely subjective epithet.", "He catches a guy stealing his shit and damaging his property. He doesn't press charges. He doesn't take their money.\n\nIf the suspect was black that wouldn't have happened. Hell if the subject was black the police would have arrested him for resisting arrest for arguing with them. Hell if he was black the police might have even killed him on the spot.", "So you've just chosen to believe that because he didn't press charges, and for no other reason whatsoever, that he is a racist? Because he wanted to shorten the time until he gets his stuff back and further humiliate the guy who stole from him? What sound logic right there", "Because OP got this shit the wrong way round. No one should be getting put in a fucking cage for property theft. The problem isn't that this guy 'got off easy' the problem is that minorities are getting jailed for non-violent crimes in the first place.", ">If the suspect was black that wouldn't have happened\n\nThat is not an action he took. \n\nYou are basing that on literally nothing.\n\n\n> Hell if the subject was...\n\nYou are now making shit up.", "Just don’t steal period lol", ">I don't pretend racism doesn't exist, I just don't go looking for racism in every possible human interaction, or try to come up with race-based assumptions in every situation where racial difference hasn't played any part.\n\nNo. I am pretty sure you not only pretend racism doesn't exist but you hate attack anybody who claims it does exist.\n\n>You're just looking for excuses to rile people up and be racist under the guise of being ultra-woke or something.\n\nYup. Anybody who uses the word \"woke\" is a trumptard racist.", "That's an entirely different point. So you do understand that being white doesn't make you correct or justified in your opinions about white people? \n\nCracker is absolutely a racial slur. A word used towards a specific group of people in a pejorative, derogatory, or insulting manner is a slur, regardless of your own emotions on the matter.", ">So you've just chosen to believe that because he didn't press charges, and for no other reason whatsoever, that he is a racist? \n\nYup.\n\n>Because he wanted to shorten the time until he gets his stuff back and further humiliate the guy who stole from him? \n\nHumiliate? Getting paid for your shit is humiliation now? \n\nYou think he would be worried about the feefees is the guy was a black teenager?\n\nYou think you would?", "he's good as long as someone hasn't dissed him lately. if he perceives that someone has slighted him, he'll devote a fair chunk of the video to just ragging on that person. it gets old.", "How long are you going to be stupid at me?", "Do you think he could have used his face in the video if he did press charges? Using his face in the video will also do a lot of damage to him as a person. Maybe even more.", "Well I apologies I didn't hear him but in that case all the stealing is making him look young and fit for his age.\nHe needs to start a new health fad, the Stealo diet.", "Believe what you want.\n\nYou get to do that. Be thankful. Others don't have that privilege.", "Having six police officers who KNOW you’re lying tends to facilitate cooperation. But sure, one thousand bonus points for the guy who decided THAT was when he was going to start telling the truth. We will just find any reason to applaud some people, I guess.", "Fucking *what?* Where did I insult *all* rednecks and boomers? \n\nI didn’t say **all** rednecks and boomers are thieves. I said *this* redneck boomer is a thief. \n\nAre you just looking for something to get Humpty Dumpty over?", "That is amazing time for a search warrant. Judge just have had nothing to do. Orrr it was warrantless and the cops said there were exigent circumstances? Hard to believe the latter is warranted", "He's going to make it back on this video alone.", "Nah. Oh hell nah.\n\nI grew up in an area like this, and this guy (the thief) is a total piece of shit. 100% agree with all the comments that he has done this before. and to top it off, he has everything, a paid off house (no, not going to drop the address here, it's not hard to figure out from what was shown, you can look up the tax records and do the math), nice trucks / cars, living a good life and yet HE STILL GOES AND STEALS FROM SOMEONE!!\n\n1 - good on the cops for moving so quickly and getting the guy's stuff back\n\n2 - the boomer needs his ass beat (go ahead and delete this and ban me, it's the truth). \n\n3 - rural america has fallen hard. not that long ago, communities wouldn't tolerate this shit. yeah, I'm getting old and have given up tolerating this kind of bull shit.", "Yeah, right, I'm done with you, you've already taken more time from me than you deserve.\n\nGo elsewhere to get yourself worked up over nothing.", "That term. Boomer. When is that going to stop. Somehow it’s even worse when otherwise-smart people say it? Hate it when someone seems really smart then BAM! They say something like that. Disappointing. It’s like, whoops! Whoa what happened? Did you have a lil brain lapse there? Come on. Using terms like “boomer” kind of makes you seem ‘typical’ of the lower rung of YOUR generation. I’m neither, so whatever, but this asshole? This fucking simpleton who steals from his neighbors? He’s just a clown. Period. Regardless of when he was born. He’s nowhere near wholly-representative of his generation. Not even close. My parents are Baby Boomers, and both of them are brilliant people. My mom built a career out of nothing, and is one of the smartest, strongest women I know. She is actually more typical of her generation than this fucking noob. He’s an embarrassment. To any generation. Yeah it’s just time to grow up. Stop perpetuating shitty, empty-headed, generalizations. It’s not a good look, and it’s not getting us anywhere.", ">Yup. \n\nThat's just stupid as shit\n\n>Humiliate? Getting paid for your shit is humiliation now?\n\nIn this context, yes. \n\n>You think he would be worried about the feefees if the guy was a black teenager?\n\nNo. I sincerely doubt he would have pressed charges either way. \n\nI seriously have no clue why you're so determined to make out some random guy as a racist when it benefits literally nobody to do so.", "Cracker is not a slur, and i know you really want it to be to have something to say back, but it is not. Just as mayo isnt a slur. Your feefees dont really come into play in this matter.", "It's obvious to all that's why.", "Right, the telltale sign of racism: doing nothing racist whatsoever", ">Yeah, right, I'm done with you, you've already taken more time from me than you deserve.\n\nyou want some reparations or something?\n\n>Go elsewhere to get yourself worked up over nothing.\n\nYou are the one that's angry and lashing out at me.", "I can’t stand that term. And I’m not even from that generation.", "Apparently so. I never saw it here; it was on my YouTube feed. I checked the front page of this sub when I was posting it and didn’t see it. I apologize for the inconvenience you have experienced with having to see the same content twice in consequence days.", "If the victim is the only witness and unwilling to press charges, it makes the case a lot harder, too. Without the victim testifying, \"yes, this is my stuff\", how do you prove he committed a crime?", "Yea sometimes racism works like that.\n\nDeal with it.", "That does seem like something a good person would do though.", "Sure, but if you have no proof or actual fucking reasoning whatsoever, it's ridiculous to assume that some guy you do not know is being racist when you have absolutely 0 reason to think they're a racist. You're just saying he's a racist purely because you want him to be a racist, and that's fucking stupid.", "I’m sorry to have inconvenienced you.", "People like a villain to hate and a hero to cheer. As soon as you start to humanize the enemy, people short circuit. It’s also the reason most people can’t have decent arguments about politics these days. Everyone is subscribed to believing someone is the enemy and if you take an impartial rational approach, you’re ostracized. The reality is the that the world is complex and people are complicated, but it’s easier not to know about that stuff", "Pretty sure it’s up to the guy to press charges and he didn’t.", "Way to nice to him. I’d throw the book. Fuck that guy and his wife. She’s knows and doesn’t care. Why should you?", "I wish the police had heard him talking about driving around while drinking and taking pills. He shouldn’t have let him off the hook so fast. Would have probably seen a whole different side of this thief.", "it's like a redneck topgear", "No, because we still get paid by our manufacturer financing even if it's at a 0% rate (I mean, it's $100, I think, so not alot).\n\nI'm guessing that's just how the acronym started, and it just stuck. We have a few acronyms in the car business that actually don't make logical sense.", "Millionaires with a big house and a negative income get better terms than blue collar workers that save and plan for years. Sounds totally fair.\n\nNot every business plan necessitates investors. Sometimes you just need to float payroll while you finish a job. Shouldn't have to pay 5 times the interest because your collateral isnt enough. Nor should a tech startup with instant theoretical valuation deserve an easier path.", "Merry Christmas man", "That is a lot of money to have laying around the house!", "Stop **lying** about random shit, you devalue the actual issues people have.", "[Drake meme: no]\n\nRefuse to watch a 22 minute-long video because your time is too precious. \n\n[Drake meme: yes]\n\nSpend your precious time writing comments telling everyone how you didn’t watch the video.", "It was a power move that accomplished a few things;\n\nThe thief would have seen himself even with WD if WD had taken the money. By giving it back to the sobbing wife you not only garner internet sympathy and support but you kick the leg out of the theif's argument if he tries to state they are Even Steven.\n\nSmall town America like where WD is from is very different, everyone knows everyone and that in itself is going to make life a bit more difficult for the thief and his wife.\n\nWD has a following of 3 million on YT, everyone in his city likely knows who he is or watches his videos, even the thief said he watches him and he was in his 60s (not your typical redneck youtuber demographic) if so.eone doesn't watch WD in that town they will still likely see this video in particular because word travels fast in a small town but gossip travels faster.\n\nEveryone in his small town will know exactly who the thief is and while the thief friends may not initially care once something of theirs goes missing all the fingers will be pointing at him.", "I forgot that this was how I started watching this video. Already subbed and was confused how I got on the tangent", "It's not going to be just the children that are WD fasn bothering this guy, it's going to be the whole town for a while.\n\nWD is from a super small town, everyone is going to see the video because gossip travels even faster than news in a small town. The people of his city will know exactly who this dude is and is he isn't the town outcast he sure will be at least for a little while.", "because he was coming back for more.", "Exactly, and that's why I'm super disappointed he didn't press charges. There's no justice for all the others this hillbilly moron robbed in the past. Glad this video is getting traction, hopefully it ruins his reputation so bad he has to move.", "What if it is from a house party at your buddy's house and they stated, \"I seriously doubt you could steal something and I wouldn't notice?\"", "That was a wild ride", "WOW! You dont see that every day, my ass would have went to jail! That man came out lucky by not being arrested.", "That was crazy. Thank you for being generous after he came forth with some truth.", "That's exactly how it went with me too. 😂", "The more he tried to explain why he stole the stuff, and how embarrassed he was, etc, etc, I wanted to slap him across the face and just call him a fucking thief.", "This didn't occur in the south though just rural Northern Indiana. I 100% get what you are saying but this happened in the North.", "Right, I genuinely apologize, I was not trying to be rude, my logic sometimes jumps out of the window", "Sorry but I don't buy that argument. I have plenty of people say they voted for Trump but they're not bad people. If you support politicians who are objectively shitty and bad for democracy, and support legislation that is evil and restricts people's freedoms based on any number of criteria, how do you claim to be a good person?", "Whatever.....", "What am I devaluing?\n\nYou realize there are people on this thread calling for segregation of black people right?", "Sometimes it works like that. Deal with it.", "Hmm, no", "It's the same in America. The authorities can bring charges even if the victim doesn't want them to. The victim has no legal right to \"press charges\" or not. That's just a colloquialism that we use when the authorities take into consideration the wishes of the victim. It doesn't actually mean anything legally.", "I just read through some of his recent comments to see how bad it was. It sounds like you're just an asshole because you don't agree with his opinions.\n\nNothing about his writing is overly pretentious or snotty. Maybe you just aren't as smart as you think you are?", "lmao wow holy shit……i love this guy. instant fan.", "Bro what the fuck", "I have $12.89 on hand, so not far off.", "Nah, accepting money could be seen as forgiveness in the chances that they did press charges. Also shoving the money back in his face has the bonus effect of ripping away any remaining sense of pride or dignity that man had in front of his wife.", "\"Redneck\" is defined by behavior, and insults only other people who behave the same way. \"Boomer\" is just a demographic age group, and calling someone a boomer in a denigrating fashion is lame, stupid, and hateful. So no, it isn't weird at all to take issue.", "Um, youtubers do ok but not that well", "Well it sounds like my buddy consented to me stealing so it’s not exactly theft now is it?", "Modern generational cohorts usually cover around 15-18 years (because that’s generally the amount of time it takes for society to reform its values):\n\n-\tThe Silent Generation: 28-45\n-\tBoomers: 46-64\n-\tGeneration X: 65-80\n-\tMillennials: 80-96\n-\tZoomers: 97-2012\n\nThink of these cohorts less as a caucus and more as a reflection of the social, economic and political values held by society at large during that time.", "Youtube", "Is this the dude that destroys expensive trucks???whineydiesel or something like that. Whistlingdiesal maybe??", "Yeah", "Out of curiosity, which parts seem fake to you? I’m usually pretty circumspect when I consume content like this and there’s nothing that seems completely at odds with reality here to me— but I’m interest in hearing your take.", "He probably complains about \"welfare queens\" all the time. I have known assholes just like him.", "I think you just hit the motivational bullseye there.", "This channel is something that my YouTube algorithm would never show me, I guess because while being a motor nerd, i tend to watch more media analysis stuff on specifically YouTube. I couldn't really deal with the cringe of the guy trying to explain himself, so I skipped through it. That said, I've now been watching this dude's videos for a couple hours. Absolutely great. Thanks for getting me here.", "More likely that you are one of the guys in the video, that I agree with.", "Yes but OP is one of the guys in the video and they are pro marketers.", "“Don’t worry I’ll be nice to you now but trash you on YouTube”", "You downvoted me because my ducks are better than your overcompensated duck?", "/u/beefwich is most likely one of the guys in the video in the back of the truck, posting this across multiple accounts daily for marketing purposes", "So what makes a word a slur? Any connotations carried by any other racial slur apply to cracker. So define what you believe makes something a slur.", "Why did he spray paint the cameras afterwards? Did he think the spray paint would erase the past recording of his crime?", "What the hell? You actually believe people who are trying to get you to empathize with them so they don’t get in trouble? I work security and this is the way almost everyone responds when they are caught red handed, like 9 out of every 10 cases. The only reason why this guy was doing that is because he knew he had no excuses and his only play was trying to get them to empathize with him… They act like this so I don’t call the cops and when I do I can see the split second they turn off the fake sympathy play and turn it back on when the cops come only to fail even harder because they deal with that shit even more than me. The thieves always have epiphanies. They always “evolve” into a better person. Then I see them the next week doing the same thing and the cycle repeats.\n\nYou must never have interacted with many people who act like this…", "Lol. You've clearly never lived in a small town. This will haunt him for yeaaaaaaars.", "While I think it is noble that the guy that got stolen from did not press charges, basically letting the guy off is not doing a service to the community in my opinion.\n\nIm just basing this off what I saw in the video but this guy did not seem genuine in his apology. First of all he basically said was there was no excuse for his stealing, then gave a bunch of lame excuses for his stealing. Second, he knew that the guy he stole from by his youtube videos/channel, and his wife even blurted out that they thought he was rich (so i guess it was ok to rob him??) Third, the guy vandalized the security cameras, albeit not doing a good job because he missed the one that got his plates and face clearly. Then his actions when he was talking to the police/detectives....you couldn't hear what he was saying, but he seemed to be getting angry and defensive when questioned.\n\nThe guy, at least from the video, seemed to know what he was doing. It wasn't just some random kleptomanic event fueled by booze and pills (neither of which I have ever heard of causing someone to just start stealing stuff). He knew his mark was rich.....did what he could with his limited intelligence, to cover up his crime, seemingly tried to hide the evidence (I am guessing that is what he was doing when he closed up the door to the shed and ran into the house after speaking to the police) and then making up excuses when he got caught.\n\nThe only thing this guy seemed to be sorry for was that he got caught and lost all of his stolen swag :(\n\nIm guessing this is not the first time this guy did this, it might be the first time he got caught though. Letting him go (and not even taking the money he gave for damaging the cameras) was a noble thing for the guy that got his stuff stolen, but what message does this send to the thief for the future. Maybe he will learn his lesson, but more than likely he will just steal again from another neighbor and then try to talk his way out of it if he gets caught.", "And it wouldn’t be because *you* identify as a boomer and *not* as a redneck, right?", "Oh, I see... *you* pay $75. I was so confused why you were mad at your neighbors for giving you free money lol", "I think thats a pretty blanket statement to say most republicans lack empathy. The majority of conservatives just dislike a big government", "Completely agree. I’m not politically aligned with him at all, but I enjoy him and his videos. I’m glad there’s people like you and I looking past politics and just appreciating people. We don’t have to agree on everything.", "First time you get caught is the hardest", "I wouldn’t say just boomers. I mean there’s the stereotype of the young kid narcissist taking selfies all day for a reason. \n\nEntitled young brats, entitled old fucks. All the same. Acting like just one age group has this problem is dumb.", "You are doing it wrong, never mix alcohol and sleeping pills.", "Happy to watch every minute of that video! If you didn’t want to take his money (which was nice of him) I would have suggested making a donation to charity for on fourth of the amount. Nice to see someone finally caught in this age of thievery.", "I’d imagine he’s thinking of the long term, actually living near this guy. All out war isn’t a particularly nice place to be, even if it’s this neighbour.", "Guy shouldn’t have been out driving. Should have a note in his motor vehicle history.", "Did it for the YouTube. Made way more from the camera by giving it back", "cool book and all but those movies arent even a hill on which death can be done, theyre a pit. [this is what it looks like](https://i.imgur.com/DNmhXfI.jpeg) to die for the hobbit movies.", "Mr Beast disagrees", "The cops can’t arrest someone because they said they drove under the influence a couple weeks ago. \n\nThat was probably just a bullshit excuse he made up anyway.", "I'm not sure what the law is on felonies in that situation, but domestic violence very specifically will be prosecuted by the state whether or not the victim wants to press charges in the US.", "Fucking ROFL\n\nAight, *yeah*. Y’all got me. I’m not a person at all— I’m five raccoons in a trench coat.", "You don’t really get jail time for stealing a couple tailgates and a dirt bike ramp.", "I was responding the the comment above mine which specifically mentions that this would be worse than hypothetical jail time. Also it seems like he stole a lot more than that although I didn't keep a running tally.", ">Yeah, yet, you: wore a mask, \n\nWell we are still in a pandemic. Frankly I was surprised nobody else was wearing a mask.", "Aka business owner.", "Rich kid, born into money, has so much $ that his job is YouTube, look at me, I'm so great videos. Doesn't even care about money. Why? Rich daddy. Fuck him.", "Let’s be honest, if this guy was black he’d be in cuffs", "Auto-tuning was correct.\n\n\n\nMy brains just tuning it to white noise not a harmony which is what people first think of when you say auto - tune.", "Hahahahaha! You again! \n\nThis account (which is my only account here) is 12 years old— which predates the channel in this YouTube video by five whole years. \n\nAlso, the VAST majority of my activity is comments, not submissions. \n\nSo if I was astroturfing content, I’d either be playing an EXTREMELY long con or I’m just doing it super sporadically/half-assedly. \n\nOr maybe you’re a fucking moron. Ask yourself which one is more likely.", "That guy was sure taught a lesson. \n\nDo a better job of looking for cameras. \n\nThat remorseless piece of shit will continue stealing, he should have had him charged to the full extent. Criminals get away with too much these days, they're not afraid of getting caught cause the punishments are piss weak.", "What kind of cameras are those?", "Didn’t seem to be a problem when Millennials were the ones being generalized and shit on. Always nice hearing older folks who don’t do dick at work and coast by on seniority bitch about how lazy the younger generation is.", "> Hahahahaha! You again!\n\n> This account (which is my only account here) is 12 years old— which predates the channel in this YouTube video by five whole years.\n\n> Also, the VAST majority of my activity is comments, not submissions.\n\n> So if I was astroturfing content, I’d either be playing an EXTREMELY long con or I’m just do it super sporadically/half-assedly.\n\n> Or maybe you’re a fucking moron. Ask yourself which one is more likely.\n\nSays your account is 2 years old, try again\n\nEdit: He mistakenly referred to the other account he’s been posting on, that one is 12 years old, not this second account he has. At this point it’s obvious he is in the film / advertising crew. Caught up in a huge lie. \n\nThe reason he says his account is 12 years old is because he confused his other “only account” that he is using to promote his friends content on Reddit.", "Great video but this man did a disservice to his community by not pressing charges against the thief. The thief showed no remorse from the start and vehemently denied it. Closing his garage when the police were there, knowing they'd need a search warrant to come back and could hide the stuff usually before the warrant is issued. He only felt remorse once the search warrant came in and there was no possible excuse for him to get out of it. He has clearly done this before and it wasn't spur of the moment. The thief admitted to a DUI while he was stealing the items too and WhistlinDiesel just let him go to steal again and then asks for help finding his Skid Loader. I'm sure the person who stole his skid loader has stolen before and what if they got off just as easily as this thief. WhistlinDiesel showed compassion but he did a disservice to all the people in that area by not pressing charges and allowing the thief to steal again from his neighbors without a mark on his record.", "He said it was stolen a month ago?", "Ah yes! I forgot a pain killer in Pennsyltucky speak is a hot rail of meth. My apologies, I grew up there and sometimes I'm blind to my roots.", "Poor wife.", "A channel that devotes at least 25% of the time to detailing this sort of filth getting their **just desserts** would be a very popular channel indeed.\n\nImagine, for a moment (and this is just a hypothetical), that you have somebody who doesn't care one whit about your livelihood and steals your property, but you've been given the rare opportunity to actually let them face the music. Do you: Give them their comeuppance? Or do you throw a bunch of glitter at them? Which one is going to do a better job of deterring and solving the problem? Which one is better for society? Not to put too fine a point on it, but if they go on to steal again, and ruin somebody else's life, was your glitter the best option?", "Who suck at it, but also those who are addicted to it. They're chasing a dopamine hit, and all that planning and preparation detract from it.", "Was he arrested?", "What other account?! Hahaha! *This account* (my only one) is 12 years old. I didn’t mistakenly refer to any other account. You can check my profile. \n\nJesus Christ. You came off like an inert moron at first— but now I legitimately think your paranoid schizophrenia is showing.", "\"So you were intoxicated when you drove over and stole my shit?\"", "It says your account is 2 years old on your profile.\n\nYou’re trying to play it off, because you made a mistake.\n\nNow the other account that was posting about your friend, I checked it out. Haha, that account is 12 years old. \n\nYour other account ;)\n\nHaha “paranoid schizophrenia”? Literally says your account is made in 2019, and the other guys profile you say you aren’t, is 12 years old ??? Hahaha. You are a goon.", "I don’t know why the guy didn’t press charges. Fuck this old guy", "Exactly. Then he goes on to ask for help for his skid loader. What if someone did the same thing to the thief that took his skid loader and allowed that thief to go free to steal again. If WhistlinDiesel really cared about the community he would have pressed charges and given that man a record so the next time he steals, and he will, at least he'd be put away for a longer period of time. The thief just learned how to become a better criminal and look out for more cameras.", "Nah jail time at 60 is worse lol", "I can bet you anything that man was stealing when he & his wife first started dating. But she probably justified it later as \"Oh, that was back when he was young.\"", "I was thinking how different the situation would be if anyone involved was black.", "I dk, if the video was a urban millennial snowflake and was entertaining then it'd be accurate and possibly get traction. Reddit isn't a monolith, and those who like to complain out it usually seem to have some sort of dumbass axe to grind.\n\nEdit: Checked your comment history and you sure get a lot of downvotes for comments about the gubmint, COVID being nothing, the constitution saying you get guns and they don't kill people, etc. etc. There's that Emerson quote \"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted\". It applies to people who get downvoted then bitch about reddit IMO.", "Probably doesn't vote really.", "Should’ve donated it and matched it to the sheriff’s department… and should’ve pressed charges, theft of a weapon is a felony everywhere I’ve looked and I’m sure the detectives hated to lose that one.", "Exactly. Then he goes on to ask for help for his skid loader. What if someone did the same thing to the thief that took his skid loader and allowed that thief to go free to steal again. If WhistlinDiesel really cared about the community he would have pressed charges and given that man a record so the next time he steals, and he will, at least he'd be put away for a longer period of time. The thief just learned how to become a better criminal and look out for more cameras.", "There's a paradigm shift happening. He doesn't think people like WD and influencers should have what they have. It was personal. He thinks people like him should have everything but WD doesn't deserve it. Or that WD is a spoiled punk. \n\nHe's kind of a punk. But has a good heart. Honesty I've watched nearly all of his videos and still don't know what to think about him.", "Exactly. Then he goes on to ask for help in finding his skid loader. What if someone did the same thing to the thief that took his skid loader and didn't press charges and allowed that thief to go free to steal again. If WhistlinDiesel really cared about the community he would have pressed charges and given that man a record so the next time he steals, and he will, at least he'd be put away for a longer period of time. The thief just learned how to become a better criminal and look out for more cameras.", "I think deep down WD is still slightly uneasy about being as wealthy as he is. Plus, honestly, it makes for a better video to let the crying wife keep the money.", "Exactly. Then he goes on to ask for help in finding his skid loader. What if someone did the same thing to the thief that took his skid loader and didn't press charges and allowed that thief to go free to steal again. If WhistlinDiesel really cared about the community he would have pressed charges and given that man a record so the next time he steals, and he will, at least he'd be put away for a longer period of time. The thief just learned how to become a better criminal and look out for more cameras.", "What an epic conclusion this would have if he finds his skidsteer", "Exactly. Then he goes on to ask for help in finding his skid loader. What if someone did the same thing to the thief that took his skid loader and didn't press charges and allowed that thief to go free to steal again. If WhistlinDiesel really cared about the community he would have pressed charges and given that man a record so the next time he steals, and he will, at least he'd be put away for a longer period of time. The thief just learned how to become a better criminal and look out for more cameras.", "He’s old. He’s not used to all this new fangled technology. He’s used to stealing before the era of multi-angle cameras.", "Please clarify. You are saying that shaming someone by creating and posting a viral video for the purpose of financial/personal gain is something a good person would do? The “giving back the money” thing is just a stunt to appear altruistic by forfeiting a tiny amount of money while standing to reap much larger financial rewards. If it was truly an unselfish and kind act, he wouldn’t film it and blast it across the world on the internet", "This is the correct answer. This dude seems like a hillbilly celebrity YouTuber. They thought he had money, so they took his shit.", "I figured", "He admits he's not only a thief but also a drunk/DUI driver. WhistlinDiesel did a disservice to his community by not pressing charges on that man and letting him go scot-free without a record. He let him go just to get good favor with his youtube viewers, which is fine, but he fucked over his community by letting someone like that thief stay on the street. He then goes on to ask for help finding a thief who stole his skid loader. What if someone like him fell for a sob story by the skid loader thief and allowed that person to go on and steal again like this thief will certainly do again. Or worse kills a person in a drunk driving accident since the thief admits he does that too while robbing people.", "I have a feeling that if he wasn’t a white male he would’ve been handcuffed & escorted to the back of one of the police cars. And facing multiple charges, including DWI/DUI. \n\nI hope I’m a white man in my next life lol.", "I have zero expectation about how people react when confronted with authority of any type. He never lied about anything. He just straight up said \"I'm clearly fucked\" and didn't resist. \n\nThere are millions of documented reactions that were the exact opposite, which created a situation so much worse and ultimately more consequential than the initial crime/detainment etc. I'm not excusing the guy of anything, he's an asshole.", "I worked at a home improvement store. This older couple would come in. They owned a pretty big company. The wife would steal stuff all the time. We always had to watch them.", "The youtuber is too kind. I'd have had the sheriff drag his ass to jail.", "you think the YouTuber would have pressed charges if he was black?", "Do you need someone to talk to", "Same as Australia I believe. You don’t want to press charges but the police do. Also takes the act out of your hands so the person being charged can see you weren’t the one who actually pressed the charges.", "I'm surprised he didn't press charges.", "Dude bought an R8 to fuck around with and drive in the dirt. He's not god but he does pretty damn well.", "I'm no lawyer, and I know I'll probably get downvoted for this, but the filming of the thief's voice and face... Isn't putting it online a crime if the thief didn't approve of the video. Especially since it is the thief's residence? Not saying that I don't agree with the victim's video, but the thief could most likely win something($$$) in court for this Vlogger posting this. It just seems like an easy case for the thief to win and the Vlogger couldn't really do anything about it because it would be a statutory type case. A judge might laugh, and a jury might not convict, but just saying. \n\nNow, it would be real messed up if the thief did that, but when you get humiliated like that by millions and millions of views and hatemail, it can cause an already unstable person to do things like that. \n\nGreat video though. So happy he got justice.", "Actual issues, instead of your made up scenarios.\n\n>You realize there are people on this thread calling for segregation of black people right?\n\nI'm sure there are. There are racist assholes on Reddit. \n\nMaking up an issue where there isn't one, devalues actual issues of discrimination.", "I was hoping when they said they watch his videos and know who he is that he was going to pull a 360, \"wait officers, I change my mind and want to press charges!\"", "So he just admitted to driving while intoxicated.", "100% that was not his first rodeo stealing stuff.", "Okay but we're not gonna reform the prison system in this comment chain. We might cast doubt on some racial biases tho.", "I would have just told the guy to shut up with the sob story and give me my stuff back. But when he gave the money to the wife you could tell it made the guy feel like an idiot. That was the best part. It made him look like a poor guy on hard times and it made him feel about ‘this’ big. I hope the detectives at least told him how lucky he was and that he could be literally in jail with a felony for that amount of stuff.", "Golden.", "No excuse. He’s only embarrassed and sorry because he was caught the second time he stole from the same man. He’s gotten away with stealing for his whole life.", "The worst part is that WhistlinDiesel pays him at the end", "I can't watch... 4 minutes in 5 ads already.", "Naming and shaming a thief is something a good person would do you fucking mongoloid.", "I feel like that’s gonna be Jeff Lowe in a few years.", "Psychological warfare.", "I don’t like that this comment section has turned into a wholly unrelated political argument but I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention to you that the myth of small government loving modern republicans doesn’t hold up against the real numbers. 4 of the last 5 Republican presidents expanded government spending, military budgets increased regardless of who was in office, and the previous Republican president did everything he could to expand executive power. \n\nPopular conservative policy ideas like drug testing benefit recipients, voter ID, etc cost more money than the problems they are said to try to solve. \n\nThe Republican party wants to legislate who can and cannot get married and what medical procedures a woman has done with her own body, and they want to use the government to do so. \n\nThe party of “back the blue” want to expand police funding. \n\nLiterally every plank in the Republican platform is an expansion of government power, unless it means writing policy designed to make life better for the most vulnerable among us; so when you, and other Republicans talk about “…just want[ing] small government.” I honestly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.", "Well, that’s certainly what I meant. Interesting that there are statistics on something like that, if true.", "I agree, and it’s supremely fucked up. White rednecks who plaster “blue lives matter” across their trucks and deny the existence of racially targeted police brutality aren’t ever pinned to a curb by three cops because they’re *suspected* of a crime. It’s easy to like the cops when you can steal 10,000 dollars worth of shit, admit to driving under the influence, and have the end result be a friendly chat in your driveway and what essentially amounts to “alright, ya got me. I’ll give it back.” Such bullshit.", "Not gonna lie, that was extremely satisfying to watch all in all", "Same, I had to skip ahead it was just pathetic", "Not sure why you got downvoted for this, I'm taking my morphine to even get down to the coffee. It's almost like they are useful for medical purposes.", "Man, these pain pills doing all sorts of shit to old white people, make you be racist, make you steal thousands of dollars of property, it's crazy!", "WD seems so generous here - but here's an alternate angle: while there is no expectation of privacy in public areas, non-celebrities do have a right to privacy on their own private property. \n\nWD paid the thief $1,400 plus agreeing to not press charges, so if he tries to assert his rights to get the video taken down, he has something to lose.\n\nI would not be surprised if being able to make a video out of it factored into how WD handled it - this video is probably worth more to him in terms of revenue than all of the items otherwise at stake.", "Or maybe he came on hard times and realized he couldn’t pay for his opulent lifestyle and stole for that reason. My instinct tells me that mf stole for the gamble of it and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did that in other areas of his life. Blame it on your headspace at the moment sure, but none of those people present fell for that bs. This is an example of the people working with the system and the system actually working for those people", "Yeah - you're not trying to spray-paint security cameras with a mask on as a \"spur of the moment\", \"stuff was abandoned\" sort of thing.", "He didn't even apologize lol", "My guess is that the guy is annoyed/jealous of his neighbor, a VERY loud rich redneck and wanted to hurt him.", "It's in their control tho.. we all have free will and make decisions", "I think you'll find that if you do 90% the cops job for them, they'll reluctantly do the remaining 10%.", "Bullshit! No excuse? Youre dumbass thief, and if you’ve done this once you’ll have done it before.", "But coming out looking like a really good merciful dude is way more valuable to him and his image in the long run than getting some dude he won't care about a day later arrested.", "This bro.", "If his wife wasn't there I think it would have gone a lot differently.", "Could it be that my fake quote was... *also a joke?* Could it actually be!? And could it be that it still reflected the real tendencies of that guy, based on this video we saw??? :mind\\_blown\\_emoji\\_or\\_smthn: *Woah*.", "That was the best part imo. Like, you can’t start a sentence with that. End one? Maybe. But to start off with that is like starting a sentence with “I’m not racist, but...”", "Yeah, the guy himself saw his vids, the cop saw his vids. Half that town will have seen this. That's plenty justice imo", "If that was someone in a not so nice house or neighborhood that whole place would have been bombarded with cops. That's so sad. He should have been arrested", "You are a bit slow on the uptake. Don’t you understand why the YouTube guy did what he did? You don’t see the motive? Nothing gets past you, huh? Wow", "Only way it would of been better is if a mug shot was circulating tomorrow.", ">I'm sure there are. There are racist assholes on Reddit.\n\nAnd they are upvoting those comments.\n\nSo you know....\n\nMaybe racism is a real thing!\n\n>Making up an issue where there isn't one, devalues actual issues of discrimination.\n\nyou know just as well as I do that this situation would have turned out vastly differently if that thief was a young black man.\n\nDon't pretend it wouldn't.", "LOL. This entire subreddit got into a frothing rage about my comment and I need somebody to talk to.\n\nHilarious.", "Yes.\n\nThen again. If a black man got into an argument with the cop like this guy did he wouldn't have to because the black guy would be charged with resisting arrest or something and taken down. Maybe even killed.", "so the YouTuber is a potential racist?", "Reminds me of the Zombie High choose your own adventure story by Delight Games.", "Yes.\n\nHow many times do I have to say this?", "Let's not forget his wife just having $1400, just lying around to give him on the spot. Makes you wonder how many times he has done this and got away with it.", "Okay buddy don't fall off the earth when you go for your walk.", "Careful with that though.\n\nReddit has the ability to pump up random kid YouTubers and then leave them high and dry afterwards.", "How does he not get a DUI for driving intoxicated with no plates?? Too much extra work for the cops? Youtuber got his things back.. Case is closed. Solved one crime today.. No need to look into any other crimes that were also committed with this blatant evidence..", "okay so that makes you a racist because you think he is white he would press charges against the boomer, if the boomer was black", "Well he did murder him socially by posting this video.", "*Refuses to take $1400* \n\n*Uploads the video and gets 4 million views* \n\nI honestly don’t mind exposing the thief, it’s just you harmed him more by uploading the video than taking his money.", "Post hoc means after the event. People will rationalize and make up comforting post hoc reasons for actions purely out of an emotional response. Lots of great science out there on the topic. Steven Novella writes about it well.", "Right??? It breaks my heart when things like this happen to my family", "I see we have an expert here", ">Acting like just one age group has this problem is dumb.\n\nActing like that's what I said is dumb.", "I see exactly these responses both here and on the video, is it the lingua franca of the redneck?", "I was having enough of an emotional response I had to stop the video and move around a bit, wringing my hands as it were. One of my quirks is I find embarrassing moments hard to watch in videos. It was impossible for me to watch the toilet scene in dumb and dumber, for example. Little miss sunshine when they decide to drive with grampa's body...nope, I'm out. Don Shipley videos with fake navy seals getting caught is like a car wreck to me and I can't stop watching, but I'll need a break sometimes.", "So crazy...I mean it's just crazy right? This can't be healthy...", "It is discretionary. The District Attorney could still press charges, but will often take the race of the accused into account.\n\nFTFY", "Same here wasn't about to watch some old boomer cry Crocodile tears and come up with some bullshit excuse for why he stole stuff.", "I couldn't make it past that exact same part but rather than due to rage it was due to pure cringe.", "He’s stolen will steal again. He’s lied and suckered people into forgiving him before too. The younger dude is setting him free to fuck over somebody else.", "Cops are for the state, not for the people.", "Go easy on him everyone, he couldn’t even pull it back!", "Alone, on a country road when there was no need for a mask.\n\n\nCops ain't wearing no mask. That would be like \"protecting the community\" or some crazy shit.", "Your hypothetical millionaire with negative income is either low risk because he/she has millions in wealth to take if they fail to pay or the lender didn't do their research... not unfair access to lending.", "No after a while one of my parents moved it bc they w3re sick of it sitting there. We at some point started talking again but our relationship has always had a lot of ups and downs. \n\nHer family was really fractured, she had a really abusive mother, which really impacted how she interacted with with some relationships. It was too much to add to everything else but she and my brother actually got divorced about a year or so ago.", "I love how I'm downvoted for beginning by saying \"I was being critical of myself\"... \n\n\nNot that I care, because I've already said I what I had to say, and have acknowledged the official parameters, but if you think someone born in 1980 is going to have similar value to someone born in 1965 then I think you're relying on stats and not your brain. \n\n\nAgain, not the point of my original post, but it seems like people love jumping on something they think they can argue about.", "That doesn't even make any sense...but you are a great example of the collection of morons this world has become.", "He put the reward out a month ago. The skid loader was stolen in 2007", "Over his wife’s dead body at this point. I’d bet the only reason Cody gave that money back was because of her.", "Make sure not to jerk yourself off too hard at the opportunity to reply with that", "If I had to guess for something that wasn't really your fault. The silent treatment is a control mechanism for narcissists. And if he's like most, he'll be back. And if it's like most dysfunctional relationships you'll be glad to have dad back until the next bullshit he pulls.\n\nThe only way you break free of this cycle of bullshit is to draw boundaries. Make sure you're the one telling him when he can come over. Say no if he says he's on the way with no warning. Give him rules - rules that will make your life better - and hold to them. Otherwise he'll walk all over you. If you can't handle boundaries yet, distance works too. Escape the cycle.", "Good one. ?????", "Probably let him off in exchange for a video release.", "Ever lived in a small town? Everyone talks about everyone behind their back. It’s awful.", "LOL. I believe this tactic was invented by Stalin who was fond of saying \"Always accuse your enemies of your crimes\".\n\nI am proud to be your enemy. If people like you hate me it means I am doing something right.", "Old guy got lucky. Some people would’ve just gone and gotten their stuff back on their own like a vigilante.", "He was a real gentleman to let that, obviously lying, asshole go and give him a reward!", "Same. That man-child needs to learn his lesson.", "Yup, that’s my exact logic because I’m a moron. \n\nThe number of people who took me seriously is mind boggling. The idiots are out in full force. \n\nI started the comment with a joke FFS. Understand context much?", "You did gr8, bro! Funny but inspiring at the same time. Really enjoyed the vid. You show that there IS hope left in the World. Also, I’m sorry that your shit got jacked! Thanx!", "It’s pretty simple really. Nearly everyone who got sucked into the trump bullshit did so based on this exact vilification of the other side. That’s why there is a video here of a trumper at turning point asking when he can use the guns on democrats. 100% pure suckers geared to hate the other side. \n\nThese are the army that will help trump overturn the next election and take power. They will override democracy to save democracy. Al while crying about freedom. They will basically do any wrong and justify it through their politics.", "Any of you know what generation a boomer is? Cause that dude isn't a boomer, just because he's over 21 doesn't mean he's old children", "Do you understand what the word \"disorder\" means?\n\nThey have an impairment to the normal function of their brains. They make their decisions with faulty equipment.", "They were asking for it.", "Yes I absolutely understand the definition of the word disorder. But I also understand that we all have free will and accountability for our actions. That's the first step in change.", "Yeah, i think maybe you dont understand since you still assert people with a mental disorder have the normal control over their brains/actions that everyone else has....and that they can \"change\".", "You could easily be right, but some people do well at making a facade that they have a lot of money, or just having crippling debt", "it's not the same thing, people who are gay are born that way, people who are narcissistic developed it as a defense mechanism. They can certainly change while gay people certainly can't. You're making comparisons that don't make sense, because you don't understand. And that's okay, but you're still incorrect soopr", "I'll lay ya 50:1 the thief loves the Orange Thing.", "He’s 60. That’s a boomer, bro.", "The video was getting uploaded either way. Letting him keep the $1400 was classy as fuck", "Should have arrested him. He wasn't remorseful and blamed something else for his own actions. He will do it again because he is now entitled.", "It depends on if the lens is glass or plastic, acetone destroys plastic.", "well you assume he is a racist without evidence, what else is there to say\n\nenemy? dude dont flatter yourself, you are just a moron who will be soon forgotten", "He sold his integrity for how much? What a LOSER!", "Your calling is to be in law enforcement. GOOD WORK!!", "Oh, i didnt know you were an expert on mental disorders such that you cant assert that people who have them \"developed\" them and weren't born that way.\n\nBtw i did remove my previous \"gay\" comment in anticipation of someone accusing me of saying \"gay= mental disorder\"...which is absolutely not the case. That you answered based on the sprit of my original \"gay\" comment is nice. Since you did i will say that people who have different brain chemistry simply dont control the way their brains function. Whether born that way or developed from environment is irrelevant, its beyond their control in either case...you wouldnt treat a blind man who was born blind differently than a blind man who lost his sight in an accident would you?", "The only personality disorder that someone is born with is antisocial personality disorder, and that's only factor 1. I've done my research, and you perpetuating that these people are born this way and can do nothing to change is a part of the problem. because if they feel they can't change then they never will, but if they feel they can and it's worth their time then they will.", "Ya there are a few new vehicles that the wife doesn’t ask about?", "I got this at Lidl last year for not too much money. It works well enough to get videos of neighborhood dogs crapping on my front yard without the owners picking it up. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/dlh0OGOS2BY", "I've seen so many people walk over other's generousity with zero gratitude or self-awareness, you're right. *Some* people have zero ability to learn in this fashion. Honestly, they might not learn with many methods at all to be honest, some people have just spent so long and endured so much that without a crazy amount of intervention, it's hard to change their behavior. Even then, change all depends on someone *wanting* to change.\n\nJust like how you'll never keep an addict sober who doesn't *want* to be sober, someone like this will never change unless they actually want to, which is more than half the battle sometimes.", "Don't know much about him, but many of those youtubers had jobs/did work beforehand, making them a decent amount of money already. I can't imagine having a job that people would want to watch on youtube, and being able to film/edit it. That's like getting double-pay, and depending on your job, you might be making a decent amount already.\n\nLike I said, no idea if that's how it is in this situation, but just another reason certain youtubers seem to make a lot, they're functionally getting paid for two jobs at the same time.", "And if you steal from him, he won’t press charges.", "You could steal something from him maybe worth $5K then collect your $20K reward when you turn yourself in and no charges will be filed because the guy is a media whore.", "LOL. You're so fucked up, it's kind of funny. But it isn't your fault. I blame the boomer that raised you.", "You have obviously done no research at all if you suggest that people are in control of their personality disorders or that they can somehow be \"cured\" through perserverence by the sufferers. Its sad that you think this since it gives you your excuse for discrimination against people with this condition....and yes, what you are doing is discrimination(ADA even makes them a protected class so its officially discrimination).", "Not to mention for the longest time, camera footage only lasted a day or two, max. I remember the VCR systems they'd have in convenience stores and stuff, where they'd basically have one tape per shift, or per day, depending on setup.\n\nI can see him thinking \"They'll overwrite the footage before they look at it\", not realizing many cameras are cheap while still only taking footage when movement is detected, and can literally store a week of footage in some cases (depending if it has expandable memory too).\n\nAll in all, while I certainly don't agree with it, I can see someone not familiar with all this new stuff thinking it works just like the older ones, and making mistakes that usually would slide with them.", "Yeah certainly seems like a great gig. I imagine they need dual passion+skill for media creation and their job which is likely quite rare. Although in Whistling Diesel's case I think he got fame by buying cars and filming himself destroying them among other shenanigans 😆", "As someone who's known multiple people who've stolen, they also tend to rely on the fact that many people value their time too much to press charges, testify, all that stuff. They just want their shit back and not to have to deal with anything else again.\n\nThat's certainly a part of the thinking as well, at least sometimes.", "Have you heard of the logical fallacy of ad hominem? I'm not surprised that you're using it, since almost every statement you've made has been a fallacy 😂 keep on talking instead of doing your research buddy", "Also I never said a word about cured, I said change, which relates to treated, which is definitely possible, do you understand that? 💋😂", "The fact of the matter too, is that your statement is actually hilarious to me, because I've spent years researching the cluster b personality disorders, and I'd assume you've read two articles.", "Same here, personally dealt with it awhile back. My roommate even had a suboxone prescription, could have easily lifted a few no problem. Except that I would have felt horrible, worse than withdraw was.\n\nStealing's a choice, unless you're directly doing it to survive and have zero other options.", "Absolutely. He was a good old boy so they treated him with courtesy. If he had been black the SWAT would have swarmed in.", "Shit, some tools are worth a *lot* more if they're specialized. Harder to sell and keep from being discovered, but worth a lot more.", "Had a friend in high school who did this, would break into cars at malls, stealing phones, cash and such. Sold a bunch to his friends, dumped the rest at pawn shops. What surprised me is he got away with this for years before being caught, and even that was only because he was stupid. I remember he once tried to sell me legit ether. I didn't even smoke weed at the time, was more amazed he went through the trouble of making/selling ether, instead of just buying weed or something.\n\nHis parents were rich and well connected though, so pretty sure he didn't go to jail, although he was removed from school that year, so might have been restricted to home monitoring.", "If they're decent cameras, they might have covers before the lenses, providing an extra layer of protection. Maybe those glass/plastic covers can be replaced? Not always, but I'm sure some models have that, especially if they're assuming they'd get scratched/damaged while used.", "For having spent years of research on personality disorders you sure haven't seemed to learn very much about them.", "Goddamn bro I've been trying to be nice this entire time but here's how I actually feel: YOU SOUND FUCKING DUMB SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO DO SOME GODDAMN RESEARCH INSTEAD OF ARGUING WITH A RANDOM REDDITOR WHO KNOWS MORE THAN YOU. GO READ A GODDAMN BOOK, FUCK.", "If ypu knew shit about narcissistic personality disorder youd also know its the one personalitu disorder that is essentially untreatable as the sufferer will refuse to acknowledge thier own suffering. Nice try tho", "This guy wasn't from a wealthy family or anything. He just liked the thrill of garage hopping. He didn't, and still doesn't drink, but he would steal cases of beer for us on the regular. Then he saw the set of golf clubs that put him in juvie", "https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/lifetime-connections/201601/are-narcissists-born-or-made\nGo read something fuck face McGee", "ok boomer", "Yep I admit I spouted off before I watched the video that's my bad... I just hate every fucking. Kid in the world calls anybody above 25 a fucking boomer... It's about as retarded as my post jumping the gun..", "\"essentially untreatable because the sufferer will refuse to acknowledge their own suffering\" have you heard of narcissistic injury and the fragility of a narcissistic ego? You also flipped from one argument to another, because you couldn't back up the other argument. And also a narcissist can, and does admit their suffering to certain people, and also to themselves. And also they can certainly be treated and there is plenty of evidence to suggest this. Please shut the fuck up, I'm trying to drink my tea and go the fuck to sleep. Fucking mongoloids", "That's what I'm saying, I can't imagine having a job that I really love, basically doing my passion, plus getting paid double because I get to share that experience/knowledge with others online.... AND get paid for it.\n\n>Although in Whistling Diesel's case I think he got fame by buying cars and filming himself destroying them among other shenanigans \n\nThat's awesome, can see why content like that gave him a good start lol.", "Like I know this is rude to say, but I genuinely dislike people like you, y'all can't even admit when you're fucking wrong when you're certainly wrong. Why ? What are you gaining from learning nothing? Blissful ignorance? Have fun with that one dude", "Always seems a bit nitpicky for a god to worry about things like that. I mean, I don't even care what my neighbors/coworkers wear, who they're in a relationship with, what they eat, etc. Why would a god care about all that?", "He doesn't need it. He's a klepto and if he was drunk and on pills I bet it exacerbates that bad habit.", "Sorry to hear that, I remember what that was like. I'd tear up every time I felt a sneeze coming on because it felt like getting run through with a sword... That was while on morphine. Now, I'd totally switch to medical marijuana if my employer wouldn't fire me for it.", "Also, \"the one personality disorder that is untreatable?\" That's dumb af too and if I have to explain to you why that is, you're literally more fucking neandertal than human (and yes it's neandertal, not neanderthal, look into it)", "Theres no fallacy in saying you are discriminatory when you are literally discriminatory. Sorry it hurts your feeling to hear this but its true.", "Bro I'm done debating with you, but me being discriminatory doesn't hurt my feelings. If you're dumb and are unwilling to learn? Then I'll fucking discriminate all day. There's nothing worse than a horse you lead to water that doesn't drink a drop, and instead decides to die", "https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Lly-2af_4qE&feature=share", "https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20366690 \nScroll down to the tab titled (wait what :000) \"treatment\"", "It's so weird when people are so proud of being complete idiots...congratulations for lowering the bar.", "You also say that whether they were born that way or were created is irrelevant.. ? Why is this irrelevant, this literally changes everything. You also can't seem to get rid of the fact that, \"they're not in control\" and I don't know what that's about since I don't know you but uh, they're definitely in control of their actions, and there's no excuse for any type of abuse, regardless of mental health disorders.", "> I mean do you know how much fucking effort it is to stack a cord of wood into a truck? \n\nNot to mention noisy as fuck. Having stacked just 1/2-1/4 cords at jobs before, even that can take 10-20 minutes depending on how experienced/strong someone is.\n\nThat being said, the place had people who've stolen wood, and almost everything else at least once before, so it is a thing, just probably not that common.\n\nI mean, I get needing firewood, but there's probably a small cross section of people who can use a lot of it, have the space to store it, and feel the need/want to steal it.", "It helps that cities tend to have more police around more often, along with not being able to see far away (buildings and such mean people can come around the corner at any time). In fact, more people around in general. Not to mention the surveillance throughout the city that can sometimes trace someone a decent bit.\n\nI can imagine rural's much easier. Most places you can see quite far, being able to dip out well before someone can see many details about you in some cases. Much less people around, along with cops patrolling/driving about as well, at least per square area. All in all, I can understand people stealing rurally more than in cities, much easier to do and less chance to get caught it seems, but could be wrong.", "I also wasn't discriminating against anyone? I was saying we all as people are responsible for our actions, we are all accountable, mental health disorder or not..? Ad hominem and straw man?", "Agreed. Although I will say, there's a lot of criminals who rely on the fact that most people really just want their shit back and not have to deal with anything else. Hell, most people probably don't have the time to officially take a statement, interview, go to court and testify, all that stuff.\n\nKnowing some people who've stolen, they heavily relied on the fact that most people simply won't go through with pressing charges, and depending on the area, some police have a lot more to worry about and will overlook smaller stuff if someone's not interested in pressing charges, or the police just don't want to deal with the paperwork either.", "*trudging their feet* Well i guess i GOTTA.", "https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=CUHlQVb3Kho&feature=share", "ok boomer", "😘", "Also perseverance by the sufferers? Are we talking about perseverance of narcissistic abuse victims? Cause imo they need to get the fuck away from any abuser, regardless of mental disorder. Or are we talking about perseverance of the narcissistic individual? Because perseverance and self awareness would go a long way, you fucking idiot", "Aw don’t be so sensitive, snowflake!", "This is my favorite comment that your Australopithecus ass said 🙏😂😭", "Good for him! I’m 26 and can only hope to make as much sometime", "exactamundo\n\nand this sure as shit ain't the first time he'd done something like that", "God- *why Do they keep bothering me with this homosexuality stuff? Well i guess the majority of people don't like it? Idk, Idc. What's he talking about now? Fish?\"\n\n\"...sure Ezra, don't waste the seeds...\"\n\n*These people are worse than those encyclopedia salesman, why didn't I just create humans with all the knowledge of the universe again?*", "In any case, thanks for doing the work. Usually i go as far as a couple of google searches and if I find something quickly I will read up on it, but anything else often just ends up being a waste of time.", "Not just an R8 but a Sheepy race r8. $70,000 extra for the sheepy turbo kit. Dude spent over a million to have a truck made that costs $25,000 just to load and transport. He gets YouTube money, ad revenue if he lets someone sponsor, and money from merch is insane. He made tshirts that cost $1000 just as a joke and people bought them. There’s a handful of people that are in the tens of million from YouTube. He’s the only one that did it in a couple years that I can think of. I initially wasn’t a fan bc I don’t like seeing things destroyed for no reason but after watching awhile I was hooked. Seems like a genuine dude that keeps the same mentality even if he knows it’ll cost him a lot of money. The rub is that it made him money in the long run. Don’t know if it was genius or luck but gotta respect it", "Returning the money to the perpetrator - now that was class. He wasn't remorseful until that moment.", "I can see ive triggered you by calling out your bigotry. Good.", "Your assertion that those with a mental disorder beyond their control can control themselves is indeed discrimination. It's the same as saying a gay person can choose to act straight, or a hearing impaired person needs to try harder to hear better...i can lead a horse to water but i cant make him smart enough to see that its wet.", "Get YouTube premium. I haven’t watched an ad in years", "I did not expect what you did at the end. God bless you!", "Press fucking charges...", "Pay for censorship? No thanks, I'll leech.", "Goddamn you're fucking stupid", "How does it change anything? How is a blind person born blind more blind than a person who becomes blind? You see this is a ridiculous position right? I guess you dont.\n\nI supposed you expect people with mental retardation, tourettes, or autism to also be able to control themselves since \"everyone\" can contril their actions? I mean regardless of mental disorders, right?\n\nAre you the mental health gatekeeper? You get to decide which disorders are serious enough?", "Because, and here's the kicker, it's a personality disorder which is a series of thoughts, which cause a series of actions, which cause a series of behaviors. If you're self aware enough and are willing to change your thoughts then, that changes your actions, which then changes your behaviors. Your argument is incorrect because, and here's the other kicker, narcissism is a personality disorder and regardless of who you are you can change your personality. Bro shut the fuck up, you're literally worse than a fucking rock.", "You sure are slinging a lot of vitriol and insults around for someone whos so in control of his actions.", "How many more comment chains are you gonna start cuz you are butthurt about being a bigot?", "Look how triggered you are. Sorry i ruined your day.", "I am quite in control of my actions I have chosen to respond to you every single time and to prove a point, I will now use my last ace up my sleeve. I will no longer reply to any of the Australopithecus shit that's coming out of your head, to your fingers, to the Reddit servers.", "The state presses charges, too. Did you think the only reason anyone goes to jail is of the victim decides to press charges? If w cop witnesses a crime, they can charge it.", "Fuckface mwcgee huh? You are so good at debate.", "Oh no, im so disappointed to lose out on such an engaging dialogue with such a mature and enlightened individual. Ill go cry in the corner now.", ">Maybe racism is a real thing!\n\nI never said racism wasn't a thing, Cap. Strawman. \n\n\n>you know just as well...\n\nNo, You are making shit up again to make an issue where there is none.\n\nYou are devaluing real issues. Stop.", "Mongoloids?.....i guess you have no issue at all with discriminatory thought or language.", "Also, i feel bad for you having narcissistic personality disorder, even though you cant admit it to yourself. Just remember its not your fault, its an illness.", "Yeah, I liked the video until that part where no charges were pressed. That thief is now justified that a bullshit \"beers and pills\" excuse is valid and a get out of jail free card. Fuck that old man.", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "https://imgur.com/gallery/X82hr7l", "Haha justice is that WhistlinDiesel had this bozos face all over the internet. This fools gonna be ashamed for the rest of his life.", "The ADA lists personality disorders amongst their list of specified psychiatric disabilities that ADA protects against. Protected classes are so due to the protected's inability to change their class. Disability, age, race, gender, sexual orientation...they all have this in common.", "I thought you were done replying...guess i can keep you going with almost no effort.", "Im glad you are able to find that you fall squarely in the pink area of your pyramid chart. Thanks for clearing that up by posting it 100 times.", "You're only proving my point.", "I actually used the blue one multiple multiple times?", "I'm quite glad that you know the English language to the point that you can form sentences, but don't know facts to the point that even when presented with sources you still can't admit that you're incorrect?", "Yeah, thing is you don’t have a point. You sling personal insults because you’ve got nothing of substance to say. What kind of response did you expect? For years millennials have been generalized with that kind of bullshit. Now the script has been flipped and suddenly it’s out of line? Honestly, I agree it’s stupid to paint an entire generation with the same brush but that didn’t stop boomers from doing it for years. The whole “boomer” thing is just a reaction to that. Try working with people who openly bash their younger colleagues despite them busting their asses to actually get shit done.", "He really should have. This guy turned weepy apologist, but not until he was literally forced to and his desperate lies were dismissed. He's not sincere, and he'll for sure keep doing it.\n\nIn cases like this, I sometimes wonder how it works legally. Does the victim need to press charges? Why? Can't the police, evidence in hand, choose to arrest for a crime regardless?", "Yeah I don't understand why the law works like this. For many crimes, nobody needs to press charges. But for this, they do? Even when the police have all the evidence they need in hand? And he confessed on the spot, which means he can't likely prevail at trying to plead not guilty. So why does the dude need to \"press charges\"? A crime was committed. The evidence is abundant and damning, even if not a single person testifies.", "I'd have thought he'd be up on the new tech, I mean I assume he's stolen loads of it by now.", "Sure sure. 🤭", "This guy got off easy and no one seems to know him...", "The DA can do so if they want but given his age and skin color I doubt anyone will", "I see it as paying to get my time back. I’m going to spend X number of minutes per month stuck watching YouTube commercials. My wasted time is worth something to me, and that value is less than the price of the upgrade. And it includes YT Music in a way that allows me to keep music playing in the background without the app showing on the screen so it replaced Spotify as well", "Still got something to say? I thought you were done? You said you were. Do you not have conviction to your words?", "Oh you did? What evidence did you supply to back up your bigotry? Was it the repeated bluster and name calling?", "So you’ve still got nothing intelligent to say, fantastic.", "Someone tell this idiot what a boomer is maybe he can change the title, boomers are 60 years old and older", "I do but your incessant need to be correct when you're get obviously incorrect is pissing me off. I have conviction in my words, but I have more conviction in the principles I believe in. Do you uh, have anything better to do this Christmas Eve? I know I'm lonely, that's probably why I'm here on Reddit arguing with you instead of with my friends, but uh, do you know that you're lonely? And hurt on the inside? And genuinely a sad human being? Do you know that people don't want to be around you because you can't hold a debate without trying to attack the other person's character? Do you know that in every way shape and form (except for a few statements you made that were actually based in fact) you literally are a brick ? Who hurt you to make you like this? Was it your mother or your father? Was it your uncle? Was it your grand parents? It must've been someone. Or maybe you just have subbrick intelligence and that's why you think you're correct? Hmm. I can't tell, because I'm not in your head, just how you can't tell who you're arguing with because you're not in my head. But at least I can actually see you, while you can only see the reflection of you in me.", "Now I'm in the pink bud :) or right above at ad hominem. Unfortunately for you I am ad infinitum because I can learn and grow, while you obviously don't have that capacity or capability.", "You really think \"it's not right to paint an entire generation but boomers...\" qualifies as an intelligent thing to say? 🤭😉😆😂🤣", "It's possible they know *of* him, though. Who knows.", "I actually feel sad for you.", "I see reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit either. Might want to loosen that fedora a bit, think it’s cutting off the circulation to your brain.", "I didn’t downvote you lmao", "ok boomer", "You think you are learning? How many times have i been able to keep you ranting so far? Pretty much every response from me has been a low effort single sentence, and here you are writing books in reply.", "Wow, i do realize you are writing this about yourself and that makes me sad for you. Not that sad tho...cuz you are responsible for your own thoughts and actions, as you said.", "I see you still have nothing intelligence to say...\n\n😄😆😂🤣", "Maybe unpopular opinion but he’s a fool for letting his neighbor get off the hook and giving the wife $$$. What the duck", "You do realize the ones you see are the ones that make the news right? All the normal and most of the good reactions won’t ever make it to you.", "I’m going to take a wild guess that he has absolutely stolen before. No chance this was his first time ever. First timers aren’t this brazen.", "Fair enough, my take is he's from a particularly terrible demographic, one that is very egocentric and doesn't see the impact of actions. Having an enlightened homie on the inside seems more valuable. But again, fair enough his actions do deserve the outrage.", "How does this guy not have cameras in and/or around his house???", "Reddit should have an “acknowledging my error” award. Because far too few people do that. I raise my glass to you.", "The guy says in the video that he is 60 years old. But, hey, go ahead and call people idiots without actually making sure you’re informed. Good look.", "People don’t seem to get that he basically plays a character for YouTube, and it works really wel", "Yeah, the guy waltzes around like he owns the country side. He’s an opportunist, a thief, and above all, a stone cold liar. \n\nThere were no lessons here, nothing learned, just enablers and more of the same explicit white privilege and ‘good ol’ boy’ mentality.", "fuck that guy, dont be stealen shit", "He spray painted them and then came back later to do the theft.", ">You do realize the ones you see are the ones that make the news right?\n\nI do.\n\nDo you realize there are countless interactions between the police and black men which are violent and life ruining that don't make the news?\n\n> All the normal and most of the good reactions won’t ever make it to you.\n\nMost of the bad ones won't either.", ">You are devaluing real issues. Stop.\n\nYou are refusing to see and recognize reality. Stop.\n\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/inthenews/comments/rn43oi/he_was_filming_on_his_phone_then_a_deputy/hpq0iyq/", ">well you assume he is a racist without evidence, what else is there to say\n\nI am also assuming you are racist but with evidence!\n\n>enemy? dude dont flatter yourself, you are just a moron who will be soon forgotten\n\nAnd yet you continue to attack me relentlessly.\n\nSo I must be your enemy.", "I think he’s an imbecile who falls victim to the theory of uniqueness and disregards objective information. \n\nI was an asshole to him. Agreed. \n\nI’ll indulge you moron, what’s that got to do with my intelligence?", ">How much you wanna bet this POS is everything he complains about in others.\n\nAt least $1400 - he'll disparage people with long hair, meanwhile he is an actual piece of shit who gives a sobstory when he is caught redhanded.", "seek help", "Maybe you should reread the last two sentences of my comment. Because that literally explains it.", "Maybe you should reread what I wrote I did, and I was clearly commenting on the title. Look at the thumbnail. Do you see either one of those two is being 60 years old?, Perhaps the officer on the left, I doubt it and the guy on the right well he's the star of the video but it looks like from the thumbnail that the guy on the right is being written a citation by the officer on the left coupled with using the word Boomer in the title does it really work well.\n\nI don't have to watch the whole video to understand the title, the title is what might get to watch me the video but at the very outset I'm going to comment on the title based on the thumbnail or I'm going to comment on the thumbnail based on the title. Then I'll watch the video.\n\nLike I said I don't have to watch the video to comment on a title that looks bad based on the thumbnail, if there was a picture of the guy with the mask with a can of spray paint in his hand look at all dodgy, then I would say A Plus good title yeah that image makes sense\n\nBut the thumbnail would lead anyone to believe that the officer is writing a citation to the guy standing on the right holding a cell phone.", "There is no excuse for the Rutherford County Sherriff office to not arrest the thief. (My search found out this all transpired in Rutherford County, Tennessee)", "If it makes you feel any better, I upvoted you. I appreciated the conversation even if it doesn’t fully align with my perspective. :shrug:", "Huh.?", "Want are we talking about? Huh?", "The 60 year old thief has likely been stealing his whole life. This wasn’t his first time and with no consequences this won’t be his last. He could have stolen the skid loader too.", "It is Rutherford County in Tennessee.", "After my holiday vacation I’ll likely reach out to the Rutherford County Sherriff attorney to ask some questions. (My searching found out this all transpired in Rutherford County, Tennessee) It seems the office recently hired a new attorney Kyle Evans.", "Your holiday lonliness i believe.", "I know its hard, but try to keep up.", "What bro? Will you repeat that for me please :(", "Huh ? Keep up with what..? What are we talking about I'm so lost D:", "This was my first though listening to him. You want to feel sorry and provide forgiveness to people, but I think that is only due when someone is honest.", "We r talking about your ability to justify discrimination towards certain types of mentally disabled people", "Will you please repeat that for me bro, I honestly can't like, hear you for some reason..?", "I was waiting for him to haul off and cold cock the thief.", "I wanted to buy myself some AirTags but they are sold out everywhere for a few weeks. This guy must have cleared out a few stores himself. They are $25 each.", "Try taking the dick out of your mouth...the sound of balls slamming your chin is probably making it hard to hear.", "Bro what dude? What's that?", "Oh it literally does? \n\nPremise: His writing is not pretentious \n\nConclusion: Maybe you aren’t as intelligent as you think\n\nWell I’m literally convinced.", "I thought he committed the thefts, told a friend who asked about the cameras, then he came back and spray painted them.", "You’re calling the guy an idiot for misidentifying a person as a boomer… but the person referred to in the title is a 60 year old man. \nYou made a poor inference from a thumbnail and called someone else an idiot for it. And then you wrote 4 paragraphs to defend your ignorant comment.", "You're claiming his writing is pretentious and hoity-toity. It very clearly isn't. If it comes across that way to you, maybe your reading abilities just aren't that great.", "I was speaking about the internet side of things. This guy is ruined in his small town. Everyone who has something go missing will be looking at him from now on. His reputation is trashed forever and you're right, he will have to move or just accept being shunned.", "The county or state can charge him. I’ll guess if they look up vin numbers on the property there are more stolen vehicles.", "More people will be victimized by that thief unless he finds a new home in jail. The thief probably stole the skid steer too.", "Did you manage to graduate elementary school, or are you still working on it?", "You were able to sit there and decide what to respond with, and that was the cleverest quip you could produce?", "That is a good series of videos but another great one is where he drives his monster truck in the ocean", "Can you reread your own sentence without having a stroke?\n\nYou think I’m sitting here thinking about what to say to some insect? \n\nYou’re poor, unattractive, incompetent and unsuccessful. One second alone with yourself is more damaging than anything I could ever say.", "(although if we were talking about how homosexuality isn't a bad thing then why would the dick in my mouth be a problem?) Huh bro ? Wat? I too stoop to understand, what you saying to me? Huh bro ? What ?", "Your privilege allows you to ignore systemic and endemic racism in this country.\n\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/inthenews/comments/rn43oi/he_was_filming_on_his_phone_then_a_deputy/hpq0iyq/\n\nGo ahead. Tell me again how the police and the law treat blacks and whites equally.", "(This is my new favorite comment you've made because you contradict your own self so effectively 😂😭)\n Huhhhhh? Durrrrr her dur dur dur what saying whatttt? Hurdur hurdur dur dur aooooOOOOOOOGAAAAA", "For the random looking through this chat asking me why the fuck I look absolutely crazy at these last comments.. my only answer would be when in Rome, although unfortunately, it is my own decision to act like this. Maybe I should make some type of change, but as of now it's working out really well, and giving me and my friends a laugh. Although I genuinely do understand why I shouldn't be actively trying to act like an idiot 😭😂", "Oh you certainly have a winning argument when you resort to insulting the wealth, physical appearance, and life success of someone you know nothing about...\n\nI'm sorry you weren't able to come up with a real argument. I hope you're able to find some small modicum of peace during the holidays, in what's clearly a very unhappy life.", "THERE IS NO ARGUMENT.\n\ngoogle literal. Google argument. Google subjectivity.\n\nYou’re too stupid to argue with but you could never comprehend that.\n\nI’m not trying to win an argument. Shut up and be worthless as always.", ">I’m not trying to win an argument.\n\nThen why do you keep needlessly responding to someone who's clearly so beneath you? You're so much more successful and attractive and wealthy, I feel privileged to be responded to.", "This has nothing to do with this video, YouTuber, or the police.\n\nYour sad attempt to conflate the two is an issue. Stop.", "https://imgur.com/gallery/9OantjH", "https://imgur.com/gallery/9OantjH", "It has everything to do with how cops interact with white people vs how they interact with black people.\n\nIf you are white you can steal shit, you can damage property, you can argue with the police and nothing will happen to you. You won't go to jail, you won't be charged with any crimes, the police will apologize to you after for bothering you.", "They can be compelled to testify. And they can be required to provide any evidence they have that the state knows about.", "Possession of stolen property, interfering with an investigation...", "No, you fucking moron. It says my account is 12 years old. [Here’s proof (because apparently you’re too goddamn stupid to click someone’s username correctly).](https://imgur.com/a/0TFMeW5) I didn’t make a mistake. You either have an IQ of 62 or you’re lying and just hoping no one else checks. \n\nI also included my Accounts tab in Apollo. If I had multiple accounts (which, again, I don’t), they’d be listed here. \n\nYou post a video that you see in your YouTube feed because it’s interesting and you think others will get a kick out of it. I’ve had three threatening DMs because I used the word “boomer” in the title and this idiot leaving a dozen comments about how I’m some sockpuppet account.", "An excuse is literally a reason you did something. The reasons don't make them ethical actions or justify the behavior, they are just reasons. \n\n\nExcuses are far too often offered as an attempt to justify or minimize an action, but excuses are also necessary, as one cannot properly address the root cause of the offense without understanding the reason for it happening. \n\n\nBlame has no relevance, the reason is the only thing that's important. Blaming and punishing is abusive, solving the root cause of a problem is what allows us to evolve as a species, and as individuals. \n\n\nI don't think what this guy said was true, but if it was the solution would be for him to refrain from drinking while on meds. He should probably stop drinking all together, considering. Ya know, maybe a celebratory drink on new years or whatever, not regular beers.", "I understand that but it's a \"cool story, still theft\" kind of thing. There are plenty of people who suffer the same things the thief did but don't resort to theft. Letting him go Scott free just reinforces the idea that you can get away with theft. A few tears, a \"heartfelt\" apology after getting caught, boom you're free. Laws exist for a reason, not enforcing them makes them pointless.", "Some people have literal cognitive impairments that disallow noteworthy apologies. Some can be addressed with therapy and/or meds, others are more built in. \n\n\nFor example, people with ADHD often struggle with apologizing, so long as the fault matters to them. So they would apologize for honest mistakes, like spilling milk, and they might apologize for it profusely. But if they say, gambled away their families nest egg, all they may be able to do is come up with justifications for why it's not a big deal... even though subconsciously they're mortified by their own behavior.", "Thanks, it made me laugh too.\n\nYou know, it's also easier to talk when the dick's not in your mouth. All I heard was \"her dur dur\" when you tried to talk w your mouth full of dinger donger right there.", "Its only a problem because its causing you communication problems. You can suck as much dick as you like, thats your choice, and im cool with it. All i ask is that you have the courtesy to stop sucking for a sec when communicating with me so you can hear and also speak back clearly. Its just common decency is all.", "FFS. Stop.\n\nYes, there is systematic racism.\n\nYes, there is injustice in the judicial system.\n\nNo, there is nothing in this video that is racist. Only your made up situation.", "You’re right. I should’ve said “acting like one age group has this problem way worse than others is dumb” because that is actually what you said. Next time I will be more clear.", "This video is a textbook example of white privilege. \n\nThis guy is home watching TV right now because he is white and the guy he stole from was also white.", "Ok, sure thing bud.\n\nYou are part of the problem.", "Yes of course. It's the people who are pointing out white privilege that's the problem. Not the cops that kill innocent black people, they are not the problem. Not the nazis who storm the capital. They are not the problem. Not the countless trumptards who parrot Q talking points. They are not the problem.\n\nNo the only problem in this world are people who point out white privilege. They are the truly evil people right? \n\nAre you going to be calling to round up people like me? Maybe put people like me in concentration camps? Maybe take our kids away and put them in cages too?", "A very petty man. Sorry that you've had to deal with him growing up and don't have someone more supportive.\n\nMy dad was just absent, which in many ways was easier. My mother in law sounds a lot like your dad, though. My wife's relationship with her mom had actually gotten better since she learned the value of boundaries with self-centered petty parents.", "Bud, you are assigning a problem where there is none.\n\nLook though my post history and tell me if you really think I'm not on \"your side\".", ">Bud, you are assigning a problem where there is none.\n\nBud you are trying awfully hard to convince me there is no such thing as white privilege. \n\n>Look though my post history and tell me if you really think I'm not on \"your side\".\n\nI don't have to. Look at how many times you have attacked me merely for saying white privilege exists.", "He also has a monster truck, that is a good source for content and event money.", "I am mixed and from Germany", "I am from the sixteenth dimension.", "ok", "People who steal out of desperation don’t have $1400 on hand to pay back their victims in cash at a moment’s notice. This guy stole out of spite, or because he’s a career thief.", "You mean, the problem is that i didnt point out both\ninsults in your title and not that you deemed it necessary \nto use clickbait insults in first place? \nSure, thats really the point here.... \nBesides, nobody on reddit or the net in general uses \"boomer\" \n*per definition* but simply as an insult whenever convienient towards any \nsupposedly older pal, and you certainly as well. Unless you *know* exactly \nthat the thief is part of the very specific boomer gen \n(definition: born 1946-1964 in certain western countries plus S-Korea and Japan probably). \nAlso, i ve been called bloomer for no reason in more cases than \ni ve read the term \"redneck\" at all so as far as i m concerned, \nme taking issue there is quite plausible.", "I’ve always wondered where he gets all his money. Even before this video . He drives some really nice trucks", ">\tYou mean, the problem is that i didnt point out both insults in your title and not that you deemed it necessaryto use clickbait insults in first place?\n\nNope. You clearly pointed out one term I used and didn’t give a slightest of shits about the other one— which is a *much* more subjective epithet— until I said something about it. \n\nBut let’s stop the foreplay and I’ll just say to you what I’ve said to the last, *oh*, two dozen bellyaching, soft-penised dipshits who’ve complained to me about the title. Here goes: \n\nYou are *clearly* fragile piece of shit and I couldn’t begin to care less what you think. About the title, about me, about *anything*. Get used to this sentiment, you’ll likely encounter it countless times throughout your empty little life.", "Um, I have that much cash \"lying around\" right now. Most of my money is in my savings but I like keeping a bit in the house just in case. Our power grid is unreliable and goes down sometimes, especially when we have bad weather. If there's ever an emergency during one of those times, we're not going to have access to our bank accounts. And nevermind that half of the businesses around here are cash-only anyway.", "Yeah...it doesn't make me any less of a piece of shit but when I got caught shoplifting nearly two decades ago, the cops asked me why I was stealing and I just said \"I wanted it and I thought I could get away with it.\"", "Of course, but I’m not making the assumption that there are no bad ones. You are making the assumption that there are no good or neutral ones. Assuming that these people are all racist for no reason other than them being white and you seeing other instances of white people being racist is just fucking weird to me.", "Were they more lenient with you because you were straight and honest?", "> You are making the assumption that there are no good or neutral ones.\n\nNo. I am making the assumption that bad ones are the norm. \n\n>Assuming that these people are all racist for no reason other than them being white and you seeing other instances of white people being racist is just fucking weird to me.\n\nYou know what's really fucking weird? Denying there is such a thing as white privilege and then attacking somebody for pointing out that there is.\n\nYou know what else is just fucking weird? That somebody can steal thousands of tens dollars worth of stuff, destroy thousands of dollars worth of stuff, argue with the police and then get no charges, no trials, no fines, not even reimbursements for the shit they destroyed AND the cops tell him to have a nice day afterwards.\n\nThat's really fucking weird. Almost as fucking weird as being relentlessly attacked for pointing out that white privilege is a thing.\n\nSo yea America is one fucked up racist as fuck country and this thread is ample proof. I get attacked for saying white privilege is a thing and people who call for segregation of blacks get upvoted.\n\nThanks for making my point everybody.", "No, but they (the police, the store manager, and Loss Prevention) treated me respectfully because I was honest and, more importantly, I cooperated. Still had to go to court and pay a small fine but I didn't get banned from the store or anything. In fact, next time they saw me, they asked how I'd been and they didn't give me any trouble.\n\nCompletely unrelated, but when I went for my court hearing, I ran into two friends (no association with each other) who were there for crimes of their own. We didn't live in the same town and I hadn't seen either of them in a couple of years so it was a funny coincidence.", "lol you really need to seek help", "No, you are making the assumption that in this particular case things would have been different.\n\nI never said white privilege doesn’t exist, and that has never been the argument here. You must be confused. I’m saying that this isn’t necessarily an example of it and I think it’s weird for you to bring it up for no reason.\n\nYou like completely making up things don’t you?", "> didn’t give a slightest of shits about the other one \n \nThat is your personal assumption which has nothing to do \nwith me. Crazy how you base your whole argument on that. \n \nAnd for all the other crap you have written: \nyou are being rude and abusive because someone \nmade a valid critic about your post. \nThat is all one needs to know about *you*. \nDo you even know who is behaving like a *fragile* \npiece here? No? Doesnt matter, everyone else can see it. \n \nTo the people surrounding you in RL, i wish them \na merry christmas and that they dont have to bear \nwith your online behaviour.", "Yeah agreed. He's young, naΪve and has a big heart. People are assholes but he needs to learn that in small bites, not all at once.", "Merry crimus my dude... Hope you and yours are well.", "That the guy fucked up, did something bad, and was honestly remorseful. Did you read what diamondpup wrote? Everyone is just so cynical and angry like diamond pup said. Forgiving someone for crimes is harder then just wanting revenge. You're unable to imagine why this guy would do this.\n\nHonestly, it's like no one ever made a mistake before coming at this video with \"I would never do such a thing like this man did, I want blood.\" It's like people forget that it doesn't take much to make people cruel and unforgiving, but those same people would want to be forgiven as well if they made a mistake. \n\n\nYou who are without sin go ahead and cast the first stone.", "\n>Bud you are trying awfully hard to convince me there is no such thing as white privilege. \n\nIf that is what you got from this exchange, you are an idiot.", "Or at least donated it to charity.", ">No, you are making the assumption that in this particular case things would have been different.\n\nYes I am.\n\n>I never said white privilege doesn’t exist,\n\nBut you do keep saying it.", "LOL. OK buddy.", "And well off enough to just have $1400 on hand.", "😂 guvmint", "He couldve pressed charges and had that moron in jail. Pretty nice of him to spare a scumbag old rat like that.", "Where did I say that?", "This guy is probably the worst kind. Seems like a good ol boy who would give someone the shirt off his back. But only so he wouldn’t get blood on it while he stabs you in your back !!!", "Look at that, a dumb-dumb wanders in and proves me right all over again. Nowhere did I claim “rural” = “redneck”; you’re projecting your own subjective meaning/definition in the form of an assumption. Also, that entire post was about how the “us vs them” construct is FALSE. \n\nIt’s absolutely incredible just how predictably people like this fall into common psychological tropes. They should make “projection” the word of the decade.\n\nCool folksy witticism though, Jim Bob.", "No, maybe refresh that I said he was an idiot but yeah he's an idiot for titling the photo, when people make a title and have a photo the title usually is supposed to match the photo, and it clearly does not match the photo neither person in the photo is a boomerang.\n\nYeah everyone knows and I've already explained that that once you watch the video it's obvious that the guy who committed the crime is a boomer, but that's not an all my point I have no disagreement with that I never said the guy misidentified the old guy as a boomer I said the title is with a picture that doesn't show anyone of Boomer age that's pretty obvious.\n\nNo one made a poor inference from the title, the inference of the thumbnail is the title and the title is the in for nobody makes a thumbnail that doesn't match the title and nobody makes a title that doesn't match the thumbnail, the whole point of a thumbnail and a title is to get people to read the thing not to stop in their tracks and go that title stupid the thumbnail doesn't even show what the title says\n\n\nAnybody who creates video content on YouTube or Reddit or anywhere they make sure that the thumbnail showing is representative of the title and then make sure that the title is representative of the thumbnail so that it makes sense to want to bother to go and watch the rest of it.\n\nI as well as many other people made a very intelligent comment that the thumbnail doesn't match the title and it looks idiotic yeah and the guys an idiot for putting a thumbnail up that doesn't match the title or he's an idiot for making a title that doesn't match the thumbnail.\n\nI made an excellent judgment. Yes, I did call the kid on the right side of the thumbnail and idiot yes I didn't know he was the idiot at first, I was only commenting on whoever wrote the title is an idiot because nobody in that photo is a boomer age.\n\nMy comment was not ignorant it was well reasoned well thought out and very intelligent, and these five or six paragraphs I've just ridden proved you even more of an idiot than the guy who made a mistake with a title or made a mistake with a thumbnail either way it's too mistakes.", "Are you just going to like list things that I did and make it sound like that can somehow support your argument that I'm in a mistake? It doesn't all you're doing is listing things that I did that were intelligent and well reasoned and thought through. You look more of an idiot", "Some people are unhinged", "That's awesome there are wholesome people around. Haha the two friends being there is super random.", "Bro, you are in the wrong. Fuck sake. Have some tiny shred of self respect and own up. Or, like, just shut up. Either way.", "Dude I'll listen to you when you can come up with a measure of what's right or what's wrong.\n\nBilly evidence you provided to have even a threat of an opinion on this matter has all been pointing to you basically being like if people don't agree with the way you say something then they must be wrong.\n\nI only say that your interpretation of what I was doing is completely false and wrong, I'm not disagreeing with the things you're saying about the criminal in the video that we see once we watch the video is a boomer, everyone agrees that that guy is you know 60 years old or older everyone agrees with that Kevin I didn't disagree with that and that's not what I brought up at all that's not what I was talking about.\n\nIf you can actually pay attention to what I was talking about and match the image of the thumbnail to the title, the two things together are in crew and congruous they don't belong together they don't match up they don't make sense, it actually makes you not want to go and read any comments it makes you not want to watch the video.\n\nI almost didn't watch the video until I saw some other comment later that intrigued me and also I recognized the YouTube channel of the guy on the right and thought oh wait a minute let me let me see what this is cuz something's not right with the title here that was my thought in my head my first thought was so I'm just not right with his title it doesn't look right or makes sense but I'm still going to watch the video just in case\n\nIt's not like the guy made a link bait title, I blow that s*** off like yesterday's dust, I can't stand people who link bait, but that's not what this title was so I didn't have a problem that way instead of like well that must be that image thumbnail must belong to some other post that got cross-posted, as if that never happens and reddit ever!\n\nGet a grip dude your life may depend on it", "Youtube pays BIG. He probably makes 1-2 mil from videos alone", "You have a serious case of butthurt are you 14? You certainly act like a teenage boy.", "No, that just destroyed the guy. Look at the change that comes over him as soon as he hands the money back...\"oh, fuck me\" is the look on his face. That had more shaming power than anything yet in the video.", "Butthurt *how?* It was clear you didn’t watch the video before you cartwheeled into the comments and hooted a bunch of braindead nonsense into your keyboard. As flat-ass ridiculous as that is, I didn’t call you any names or insinuate anything about your character in my response. \n\nI am *now*, though.", "I can't lie to you man.. you look like you did no research and are simply following what the crowd is telling you.", "you lost me when you said he was worse than a rock (what are you gaining there, you're not helping him or yourself) and otherwise i agree with what you said.", "this is simply a false statement. you're also changing the line you're arguing on every time you comment. do you truly believe what you're saying or are you regurgitating what you've heard?", "Yeah I honestly agree with this one.. not my best moment of judgement.", "I have someone w narcisistic personality disorder in my family. Its fucking sad and heartbreaking to watch. Im quite well educated on the prognosis and potential for treatment. Its not impossible to treat, its almost impossible to treat. People with this disorder refuse to believe they are anything but perfect. To suggest they have something wrong w them is met with pure derision and denial.", "Please educate me then. Id love to hear how people with mental disorders are in control of their thoughts.", "To be fair...theft happens everywhere. Plenty of blue areas where stuff wouldn't last very long in an unlocked shipping container left unattended.\n\nIn fact, in a more urban area, I'd have expected the cameras to be stolen too, not just painted over.", "Because like your comment, it added no value.\n\nA guy who criticizes my use of an overused cliché uses one right back... come on retard, you can do better.", "Math, morals, and ethics aren't strengths of yours I see.", "Post some studies and stats from reputable sources? Wikipedia and Vice are not credible sources.", "Lol yeah gimme 3 days maybe I can come up with something as good as “ur retard”. Stay licking.", "Quit replying to me dipshit.", "I don't use Reddit much as I have friends and family which I typically spend time with. You can't lick when you are the boot. Keep showing the world your daddy issues retard.", "Sponsorblock. Sometimes its a little disorienting when my YouTube video skips, but when I realize why it's worth it.", "If you look at it from Whistlindielels (WD)'s perspective, he's got a huge viewer base online and the thief's face is uncensored. He made a PR choice to make himself look better even if he didn't personally feel like him or the wife deserved the money. It was just a gesture to make him seem like the bigger man and further shame the guy.\n\nThe fact that people are so riled up over that decision is enough reason for him to do it because it probably ends up giving him even more views at the end of the day for way more money than $1400, and it makes his neighbor look like a bigger asshole. Dude's life is probably going to be hell from now on with the small town back talk.\n\nIt essentially cost WD relatively nothing to give the money back and in return, he gets to play the white knight and probably an extra million views from people who thought it was the grand gesture. They even managed to catch on camera a detective telling him he's a stand up guy. That's the type of PR that companies would pay millions for and it only cost him $1400. That's quite a deal.", "i genuinely believe that i understand. and at the same time they are in control, regardless of what they will have you believe. you stated that it was essentially impossible to treat, and this is untrue. it is better for you to believe that they can change and grow, because you are their mirror. if their mirror tells them something different than what they believe they may begin a change. they may not as well, but at the end of the day this is their choice. i'm not telling you what to believe. at the end of the day come to your own conclusions. that is what is important", "\"To suggest they have something wrong w them is met with pure derision and denial.\" this is the sad reality, and yet they can still choose to no longer believe in their fantasy self. that's why there are narcissists in remission, see what i mean?", "Its very rare. NPD is generally a lifelong issue once someone's central nervous system has matured. Even if someone seeks help at some point doesnt mean that help has lasting effects. As soon as they stop seeking help, which in my experience happens the second they make any progress at all, they just revert back to their old brain. Good luck getting more than 3-6 months of participation in therapy at once. Even repeated attempts at treatment dont have lasting effects. You might get them to admit they are wrong once or twice, but the idea that they are wrong a lot(because thats what a disorder means) in anathema to them.\n\nThe biggest problem with NPD is that sufferers tend to be pretty smart and also decently successful in life(cuz they use people to get ahead, they can be charming as fuck when they want to be). Its near impossible to convince an intelligent and successful person whos good at manipulating others that they are doing something wrong...especially over the long term.", "There may be some that dont have some sort of comorbidity with another mental illness that are slightly better able to be treated since its just the one issue....its incredibly rare to have only NPD. Most have NPD along with several other issues that compound the incredible difficulty of any successful treatment. When you have NPD with alcoholism or bipolar or APD or schizophrenia or some other mental disorder it becomes damn near untreatable, and most people with NPD do have at least 1 of these additional challenges, often several. \n\nYes, they are able to control actions, but not thoughts. They are generally able to prevent themselves doing some extreme violent act against others because there is enough societal pressure and penalty for such actions, but they dont have the capacity for thinking empathetically in a way that allows them to see the emotional impact thier actions have on others. Basically they can stop themselves from murder, but they cant stop themselves from treating people like objects there to help their own ends.\n\nThinking they are in control of their thoughts, without sincere desire for change(super rare) and active phsychotherapuetic assistance, is just wrong. They are handicapped people just as much as any other mental disorder sufferer. They are just very very unpleasant people and that makes it really easy for people to dismiss them as assholes and treat them like pariahs rather than see that they suffer from mental imbalances.\n\nIts wrong to view ANYONE with a physical or mental abnormality as though their condition is their own fault. Saying a NPD sufferer can control themselves with effort is like saying you should speak latin, you just need to try hard enough, even though you personally dont see any legitimate purpose for doing it.\n\nEdit: i get that its better for me to believe they can change.....come back and tell me that after dealing w someone with NPD for decades with no change", "Dont worry incel, I will quit replying.", "You make a lot of very very good points here. I do want to simply state, I never said they were in control of their thoughts. Unless I did and I just don't remember. I agree with almost everything you said here, and I still don't believe I said the disease was their fault or they have the choice to not think like that. I just meant that they have the choice to get better, to go to therapy, to learn to be better. My apologies sooprvylyn. I'll try to see another perspective next time.", "Yes the choice is there, they are just very ill equiped to make it. Its not really fair to demand it with no capacity for compassion towards them. \n\nMy main beef is really that people denigrate these mentally challenged people, because it's convenient and politically accepted, while in the same breath also championing political correctness for everyone else whos handicaps are less abrassive. In fact, they use the term the same way people use the term \"retarded\" derisively, as an insult, as though the condition warrants disdain. Its a pervasive double standard here on reddit. This was the reason this discussion ever began...and people dont seem to get it.", "I understand and agree", "Thank you- not to be too personal, but how is your relationship with your partner, how long have you been together? \nMy bf and I first dated 8 years ago & have been together almost 6 years. I'm about to give up...it's destroying me, because I do love him so much still, but he's not the same person that I fell in love with at all and that kills me, trying to hold onto something I don't want to live with for the rest of my life. \n\n- How is therapy working for you, and how long have you been going? \nWhat made you go in the first place, was it rehab?", "He is also a mechanic, dude started out flipping trucks. He became popular cause he does know what he is talking about. He a Farmboy from Indiana he's been working on engines since he was a child.", "Yeah I’m not sure that I would have ever made it to therapy were it not for rehab. I knew something was wrong but going to therapy just isn’t something men do where I live. It’s awful and stupid but mental health still has the whole stigma around it. \n\nWe’re doing really well now. We’ve been together around 11 years. I’ve been clean for 9. Therapy started in rehab and lasted at least two years continually. We agreed that I had the tools I needed and regular sessions didn’t make sense anymore. My girl knows how to call me out now and I try to understand what she needs from me and be proactive about it and for the most part that’s all there is to it. I’m still far from perfect and I can get savagely protective of our little family, as in I have no tolerance for other people inconveniencing or taking advantage of us (for instance my partner’s SIL died and her brother was staying with us a while but not really doing anything, making my partner basically serve him because his wife always did and I threw him out without talking to my partner about it first and holy crap that was a bad move on my part), but it’s pretty damn good these days. \n\nWhen you bring issues up to him does he react at all or just kind of hand wave it away?" ]
5,176
videos
Redneck boomer tries to steal from a guy, gets caught on tape and then gets humiliated in front of his wife and the Internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40F8mALRukA
/r/videos/comments/rmsrgj/kdlttv_1999ft_tower_being_climbed/
[ "holy fucking god.", "Serious question - does anyone else get an itchy bum when they see this ?", "The earth is flat right ? fake video.", "These videos make my feet hurt for some reason", "From ~3:50 on, why would there not be closed hooks welded onto for a latch on? Seems those carabiners could easily slip right off there in the event of a fall!", "How the hell do they get down? It seems like the descent would be the scarier part.", "Makes my palms sweaty", "Makes my mom's spaghetti" ]
8
videos
KDLT-TV 1999ft tower being climbed
https://youtu.be/c9V_iBjqwhs
/r/videos/comments/rmt989/what_if_the_internet_became_conscious_two_ais/
[ "Literally every app I post on my posts flop 99% off the time. Like wtf is the point? Then some person posts a photo of a pizza crust and gets thousands of likes and gets to joke around with everyone all day about how funny it is. \n\nLame. I just wanna talk to people. Swear nowadays life is isolating as fuck.", "Dude what", "Getting any traction on a post is difficult even if it's interesting. You can't just post an ancient video that youtube has recommended to everyone a thousand times over and expect it to go well. That being said, hi." ]
3
videos
What If The Internet Became Conscious? Two AIs Discuss How This Might Happen.
https://youtu.be/lhhWKyRZ3Qg
/r/videos/comments/rmtfe5/a_guy_buys_an_amazon_return_pallet_and_finds/
[ "Guy lies for views", "If you're going to tamper with evidence make sure to video yourself doing it and post it to YouTube.", "No the brightest bulb in the chandelier is he?", "Man that's 6 minutes of my life I'll never get back." ]
4
videos
A guy buys an Amazon return pallet and finds hidden drugs in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kF-MVZlC5g
/r/videos/comments/rmtwpo/childrens_theater_critic_with_alfred_molina/
[ "This was great!", "How DARE you sir!! Does the fourth wall mean nothing?", "Molina is always a delight!" ]
3
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Children's Theater Critic with Alfred Molina
https://youtu.be/dWAiWN31m1I
/r/videos/comments/rmtzfh/the_lord_of_youtube_survalence_camera_man/
[ "Surveillance. Even spelled for you on the video you grabbed.", "Asshole films himself being an asshole, news at 11.", "Well that was weird. Creepiest thing I've ever seen to be honest", "The few times I've heard this guys voice, he sounds a LOT like [Daniel From SL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57D4pJS3vuw).", "More like the flaming asshole of Youtube.", "This guy sucks and so do you for posting it.", "I mean I wish you liked it but chill out man, its just a video I didnt do anything to you", "He was very polite to everyone, hes not like the guy who would roast randoms on camera", "He's about as passive-aggressive as you can be.", "Nah, this guy is garbage and you are too for enjoying his videos.", "Dude grow up, people will watch things that you dont like.", "You enjoy watching someone needlessly scare and bother people? And apparently people won’t watch, shits sitting here at zero upvotes lol.", "A lotta people get super pissy about this guy, they changed youtube rules to ban his content", "Nah, you’re a pos lol", "And your just some kid on the internet. You wouldn't act this way in real life would you? Like getting this upset over someone else's enjoyment of a video?", "Uh oh, you gonna beat me up?", "Would you get this upset in real life over someone else's enjoyment of a video?", "You keep using the term upset - nobody is upset lmao. If I knew that someone that watched weird snuff shit like this I would certainly think less of them.", "You are upset aha", "You gonna cry?", "Yeah man, I'm gonna cry because I upset a redditor...", "You’re really upset right now and need to calm down.", "You are upset aha : part 2", "Shhhhh just relax. Go back to watching your weird videos.", "You are upset day 2: part 1", "Shhhhh. Keep posting incel content.", "Keep being angry over some else's enjoyment of a video. \n\nI gotta stop replying dude , been fun tho", "You can keep insisting that, even though it’s not true. This is the internet and you have every right to pretend I’m angry. Someone who enjoys watching someone harass and upset people - purely for the enjoyment of watching people become genuinely scared. It’s snuff - it does genuinely make you a person of questionable morals. Hope you can reflect!", "Gotta stop replying sorry man, but it's the internet. Just chill out it's almost christmas\n\nEdit : did you downvote all my comments? lmao", "No worries! Leaving was always an option. Enjoy putting objectively terrible people on a pedestal, and keep abstaining from sex!", "Sex is fun dude, we should be able to at least agree on that...", "Lol, whatever you say my dude. There are incel help groups, you should check one out!", "I'm not even American my guy... you've actually upset me there. Dont call me that... I've been very nice to you\n\nEdit: why do you keep downvoting all my comments?", "You seem confused - what does any of this have to do with being American? When was that insinuated lmao.", "Incel is like an American school shooter right?", "Holy shit you are confused.", "Sorry man aha, what is it? If you dont mind me asking", "Google it bud 😉", "I'm bi aha and I wouldn't consider myself a pussy slayer but I definitely am sexually active :/ I'm from canada , we all know incels as an american term", "Incels exist worldwide, doesn’t matter who coined the term lmao. This guy that you love so much is beloved by incels.", "Yeah I googled it those incel guys are weird as shit. I'd put them on the same level as furrys. I'll still enjoy the videos but I'll make fun of incels in the comments", "Nah, you’re still not getting it. This is no different than those streamers that go around to stores just to argue about mask rules. You’re promoting a person who is going out of their way to upset people. It makes you a worse person.", "Yeah man were gonna have to agree to disagree there, if this dude was actively promoting false info I wouldn't watch him and would actively troll his viewers but he just stands there \"like a mute creep\" and films , I get it it's annoying but you are allowed to film people out in public." ]
43
videos
The lord of YouTube (survalence camera man)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38OAU-FANE
/r/videos/comments/rmu53r/frankie_muniz_did_not_lose_his_memory_wild_ride/
[ "Maybe he did but he forgot.", "Is this a video of him talking about stuff or is this someone else criticizing him? Give me a summary because if it's the latter I don't want to waste my time on someone being an asshole.", "Stay ignorant.", "I thaught for a while he played jessie pinkman", "I know his story, I'm just asking whether he has changed what he is willing to tell or if it's someone else talking shit. It's not ignorance it's not buying into clickbait.", "If only there was some way to know. Like an interview or something.", "I watched it when youtube recommended it. Had no idea this was even a thing. He basically says its a snowball effect from saying he couldn't remember something dumb. Like how he felt during a scene or something.", "I see, well I'll give it a watch then. Thanks.", "It's himself describing how his \"story\" of not remembering shooting Malcolm in the middle was wildly over exaggerated by media. \n\nHe just didn't remember every detail of it." ]
9
videos
Frankie Muniz DID NOT Lose His Memory | Wild Ride! Clips
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmuclv/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rmuclv/deleted_by_user/
[ "Thank you so much. I just subbed and watched 30 or so. Hilarious!", "Worshester", "Im pretty sure that it is traditional for anyone not from the UK to mispronounce it. \n\n​\n\nI pronounce it \"Worse (like the word) -ter (phenetic)- Shire (like the word)\"", "Lol! I didn't know how to pronounce Worcestershire until I moved to Worcester, MA. I say Worcester so often that Worcestershire is easy peasy.", "The thing is, so many people not from the UK struggle to pronounce the full name, but almost everyone here calls it just Worcester sauce, we don't even say the shire part. Worcester sauce. Pronounced * Wuss Ter*.", "Living in Massachusetts I don’t think I have heard it pronounced any other way than “wuss-ta-sheer”. \n\nNot saying that’s right, but that’s all I have ever heard." ]
6
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/q89MLuLSJgk
/r/videos/comments/rmud3o/damian_lewis_as_antony_in_julius_caesar_friends/
[ "I posted this video once before. It is the best rendition of that speech I've ever seen. Every other stage performance I've seen just doesn't get the tone right, but Damian does it pitch perfect in my opinion.", "LINE!!!!!!!!", "This guy was very good in homeland, i think the show was worse when they killed him off.", "Man he got old..", "I know him from Band of Brothers, and Billions. I specifically love [this scene from the latter](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5s1c3t)", "this is quite good, wish he was this good in billions", "He was very good in it, what are you on about?", "hes alright, guess i just dont like the character very much", "Watch Wolf Hall for six hours of this kind of energy.\n\nEDIT: Or if you want to see some of the best British actors in a luxury Shakespeare production with this same kind of energy, look up the BBC's Hollow Crown series. [A lot of good monologues in that one.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlCAy9FX6D0)", "I've been seeing him in stuff forever, but I really took note after [Wolf Hall](https://youtu.be/UXhr9TQZyQQ). Ignore how cheesy the trailer is, it's really good.", "For comparison, [Here's Charlton Heston](https://youtu.be/0bi1PvXCbr8) making an attempt. And [Marlon Brando](https://youtu.be/101sKhH-lMQ) kneading his eyebrows (actually his one's pretty great too, but nowhere near Lewis)", "but, Brutus says he is!?", "Damian Lewis is truly one of the great actors of our generation. He has had success with his roles in Band of Brothers, Homeland, and Billions amongst many others, but he hasn't achieved nearly as much success or accolades as a man of his talent deserves.\n\nIf I see Damian Lewis' name associated with a program or film there is a good chance I'll enjoy it. The man just brings a level of credibility to everything he does. I've even liked his work as part of shows or films which otherwise wouldn't have been memorable. I can still recall his role in the series Life which only lasted a couple of seasons. The show struggled to find a proper home at the network and the writing was inconsistent, yet Lewis defined his role to the point I connected with him and understood how his (fictitious) past influenced his current actions. I have no doubt that show would have done far better in the modern world of streaming instead of languishing on a network that didn't seem to embrace it.\n\nLewis is one of those celebrities that if it came out that he was involved in some type of \"me-too\" incident or if he was caught on tape going into a racist or sexist tirade I would find it incredibly hard to believe while at the same time being incredible disappointed. I'd put Lewis right up there with Tom Hanks, Keanu Reeves, and Hugh Jackman in terms of overall likability and I'd put him up with Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hanks, and Christian Bale in terms of acting talent. \n\nNever thought I'd write three full paragraphs praising Damian Lewis.... in fact I didn't even realize how much I liked him as an actor until seeing this clip, but here we are.", "People often associate him with his role on Band of Brothers and think that was just a few years ago. They may not realize Band of Brothers was actually released in 2001. 20 years doesn't possible but apparently good acting and an excellent production hold up.\n\nThat said - we are all aging at the same rate. It appears Lewis is doing a much better job at it than most of us.", "and so shall you if youre lucky", "I can never work out if Heston can act or whether he just speaks the words with a lot of conviction.", "The latter.", "Yeah, I really liked him as a kid in El Cid though.", "His acting was excellent. The writers let him down.", "He plays a perfect Henry the VIII in Tudors.", "If you want a really compressed version of Julius Caesar with some splendid voice acting and questionable animation, there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DtJkeMK0yU", "and Brutus is an honorable man.", "People tend to do that.", "< wink >", "Well /u/Xynomite says Damian Lewis is a brilliant actor… and /u/Xynomite is a honorable redditor…", "I'm no theater expert, but does the fact that actors on stage have to be audibly louder vs an actor on camera who can almost whisper some of his lines be a valid reason for the tone and rendition of the speech?", "In the play also this speech is given as an address to a huge crowd, so a delivery like this wouldn't make sense in that setting.", "It's not about the volume but the tone of the speech. Damian's take is full of biting sarcasm and wit, but with a hint of sincerity behind it too, giving it depth. He's not just being cynical and baiting the crowd, but there is a kernal of truth behind his grief for Caesar who was a friend. \n\nMost productions I've seen, they just play it way too straight and sincere, with not enough cynical sarcasm when Antony says \"Brutus is an honourable man.\"", "he is crazy talented", "I sat 2 seats away on a plain from Edinburgh to London about 10 years ago. Surprisingly thin and handsome", "I only watched a few episodes after they killed him off and it just wasnt as good", "\"O judgement thou art fled to brutish beasts\" The listener could not be faulted to mistakenly hear \"Brutus beasts\" - is this something Shakespeare meant to do?", "I came to praise /u/Xynomite, not to bury them.", "I don't know anything about theater or Shakespeare, but just staring at the camera seems like a bad format.", "I don't know about this case, but Shakespeare loved his puns and play-on-words. There's an interesting video with some Shakespearean readings in the accent of the time, and some of the pubs and dirty jokes really stand out, much better than on the dry page.", "In HBO's Rome they did it perfectly. They set it at the aftermath and Antony is all smug and Brutus is pissed off. Didn't even attempt the Shakespeare.", "Just means Band of Brothers has held up really well 20 years on.", "No love for Brando?", "Wow that was intense lol" ]
39
videos
Damian Lewis as Antony in Julius Caesar: 'Friends, Romans, countrymen'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a670X6oCDWA
/r/videos/comments/rmudz5/the_end_of_the_yakuza_in_japan_an_aging_mafia/
[ "It's ironic in that those that put the laws through had yakuza support.", "Thanks, Ronin!", "Do they let morbidly obese white 6'4\" Americans that can't speak Japanese in? Cuz I would totally sign up.\n\nI've watched Goodfellas in Casino like 500 times so I feel like I'm already trained. I'll just pretend the guns are swords or something.", "Go live your dreams man. . .", "Good. Parasites", "Damn 5:17, who do you want me to kill?", "the fuck are you talking about", "I'm going to assume he meant to say somewhere around 1:53.", "Y'all are weak. Watch the damn video. Then you'll know.\n\nEdit: I'm just going to explain to you lames so I can go to bed. The Yakuza boss used to pick up women by saying \"who do you want me to kill?\". Now video to 5:17.", "> morbidly \n\nHow big we talking?", "350", "6'4“ though" ]
12
videos
The end of the Yakuza in Japan? An aging mafia fails to attract young people
https://youtu.be/RYUuwO2vaoU
/r/videos/comments/rmv49i/i_found_a_home_video_of_space_shuttle_columbia/
[ "Cheers for sharing. Awesome", "You're a pretty good videographer for being only 10.", ">... home video... ...filmed from a plane...\n\n\nYour home is on a plane? Shenanigans....", "Let's just say I muted the audio for a reason.", "Wow that is great, thanks for finding it and uploading/sharing. I do sometimes wonder how much footage is out in the wild, needing to be developed or digitized. I think I have some photo film that is still undeveloped from the 80s but I don't want to do it because I have no idea what is on there, probably some lame car pictures or whatever I was into at the time.", "How did you go about making your videos digital?", "Yeah, I hear you there. I ended up digitizing, encrypting and uploading to the cloud basically my entire family's photos and videos going back to the early 80s. Frankly, I had so much downtime (working from home in video production, where I could supervise the other computer all day), it was a long term project I finally got though last year during the lockdowns. In 2013, I had a fire the destroyed nearly everything I owned, and at that point I made a commitment to one day digitize my family's stuff, so it would be safe. Finally got around to it last year... Glad you enjoyed the clip. Cheers 👍", "I'm surprised a commercial airliner was allowed to be this close to a shuttle launch! Awesome footage.", "Yeah, they set up a fairly huge TFR for launches, including well downrange. It looks a lot closer than it really is... Many miles. (source: I make training material for pilots for a living and was involved in ATC!)\n\nEdit: if you're curious, you can always check,\n\nhttps://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/list.html\n\nAnd \n\nhttps://notams.aim.faa.gov/notamSearch/", "You can get video capture devices. There's a bunch of USB devices out there as well as PCI cards. Then all you have to do is connect your camera/vcr to the capture device and hit record on your computer. I digitized a bunch of home videos a couple years ago", "This is incredible footage!", "Thanks for sharing. Normally, shuttle videos from this time are inevitably the disaster; so, it was nice to see a success and remember how cool the shuttles were.", "I'm well out of date on this, but do the USB ones work OK? Back in the day you needed firewire for digitizing videos. Something about a constant data stream compared to the way USB packets stuff. I'm assuming with USB 3.1 etc that's no longer an issue?", "Soooo cool! Thanks for sharing 👍", "Badass.", "USB2 is even fine for standard def video. USB3.1 can handle gigabits of data and would work well for capturing high quality 1080p and above content. \n\nI have a USB2.0 device and it works great: https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_usblive2.html", "I thought the same thing. He did well to pull back to show scale.", "Is this the one that blew up later?", "Legendary! Thanks mate! Digitising everything has been a winter project idea for a few years now, think it's about time to get started....", "That is wild. What a cool way to experience the launch. I remember exactly where I was during this launch, too. 7 years old watching it live on TV in my 3rd grade class.", "Yeah it's tedious but well worth it in my opinion. My father was diligent and saved all our family negatives and had dubbed all our home videos to VHS. So I bought a scanner and a video capture device and did it all. The scanning took me a good couple years (just slowly doing it one album at a time). But now we have this big accessible home media archive!", "So, did you live in that plane?", "That's exactly what I want to do as well! I got quite literally thousands of old photos, negatives and slides going back about 4 generations, plus 50 odd tapes ranging from VHS to digi-8, hi-8 and even some old cinefilm. All of which I want to digitise!\n\nIt's gonna be a big project, but my father recently passed away and I want to do it so mum and I can enjoy all the old memories 😊", "That was my first thought too. But then I remebered just how huge the shuttle is and how fast it climbs which means the condensation trail is a lot taller than it looks which means the plane is a LOT farther than the video makes it seem.", "Wow, it's insane how fast the shuttle can climb given how heavy it is. In no time it's above the plane's cruising altitude.", "Wow that's quite the archive! IIRC with hi8 and digi8 you should use s-video instead of composite video. It's been a while but from what I remember the luma and chroma are separate in s-video so you're video quality will be better. But you might want to research if those formats support that. Good luck!", "This guy .govs", "Was this flight specifically to watch the launch or were you just happening by?", "That's great advice about using s-video, cheers! I'll definitely do some research before I undertake this. Any recommendations on the capturing software? Thanks for taking the time to reply!", "Honestly I just used the Hauppauge capture application that came with the capture gear. If the device is recognized as a video device then you could theoretically also use VLC to encode.", "Columbia burned up on reentry in Feb 2003 I think it was.", "We went from showing Live Footage of the Moon Landing to showing Live Footage of the President staring at the Sun without Protection.", "Ah ok cool! Check back in a year and see how I'm doing 🤣 Have a great Christmas.", "Let's go classic: \n\nhttps://youtu.be/2WPCLda_erI", "We are the same age :)", "Today's USB video digitizers should be fine. Back then, the last gen of camcorders supported digital video, and allowed for \"real time\" DV output stream. It could be the packetization thing that was not suitable for \"real time\" stream data, or that USB 1.0 was the only thing available and was too slow, but almost every camcorder used firewire for the DV stream output.", "One small step for man, one giant leap backward.", "space", "There's actually quite a few videos of launches filmed from commercial airliners.\n\n[Space Shuttle Atlantis on STS-132 in 2010](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1SmCnElDa0)\n\n[Space Shuttle Discovery on STS-133 in 2011](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_USPTmYXM)\n\n[Space Shuttle Atlantis on STS-135 (final shuttle flight) in 2011](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPRKkX2GJnc)\n\n>[A second plane filming STS-135 (Worse quality)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0wW8kEVnM)\n\n[SpaceX Falcon 9 launch in 2020](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4T4_bBxAqg)\n\n[United Launch Alliance Atlas-V in 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NJ8ENDLi3Q)", "Same!", "/u/stabbot", "\nI have stabilized the video for you: https://gfycat.com/YoungTiredBluebottlejellyfish\n\nIt took 225 seconds to process and 50 seconds to upload.\n___\n^^[ how to use](https://www.reddit.com/r/stabbot/comments/72irce/how_to_use_stabbot/) | [programmer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=wotanii) | [source code](https://gitlab.com/juergens/stabbot) | /r/ImageStabilization/ | for cropped results, use \\/u/stabbot_crop", "Can you transcribe the audio so we can read it?", "So watching this, a thought occurred, why do we use vertically launched rockets and not some type of mag-lev sled thing? Intuitively, it seems the fuel expenditure would be lessened.", "I'm about 130km/80mi from a launch site of a smaller rocket, and I can still see it when they launch.", "This orbiter broke up during re-entry a few years later during mission STS-107 in 2003. The launch OP posted was STS-90.\n\nYou may be also thinking of Challenger, the shuttle that broke up during launch many years prior in 1986 (STS-51L).", "consumers are getting better at steady cam as the years progress", "Misread the title. Thought it was the Challenger and was waiting for it to explode.\n\nI've been in r/crazyfuckingvideos too much lately.", "There's over 100,000 flights per day. I'd like to hope they know how to time things out.", "You'd need a long track that reaches up above the thick part of the atmosphere, orders of magnitude taller than any structure we've built. Otherwise the payload would smack into the thick atmosphere at the end of the track, slowing down drastically. So you built up all that speed and then lost it all. You could build a longer track to build up more speed, but then the payload would never survive its journey even with a heat shield. Rockets work because they start off slow where the atmosphere is thick, gradually ramping up speed as the atmosphere thins.", "?", "How might this compare to many of the Chinese knock offs we would find on Amazon? Or even the roxio one?", "No idea, for me quality was important. I had used hauppauge gear in the past so I went with that. I imagine cheaper models would work fine? It's not like analog video signals are some sort of mystery protocol.", "G force limits, mostly. You would have to have an enormous sled track that supports the weight of a fully loaded rocket and the launch vehicle would have to be able to withstand that kind of acceleration in the densest part of the atmosphere. Nobody has come up with a practical way to implement this.\n\nThere's a company called SpinLaunch that uses a ground-based mass accelerator to achieve spaceflight but it's limited in application because of the extreme g-forces imparted on the load. Most companies would rather pay for a traditional launch than try to engineer a satellite that can withstand 9,000 Gs.", "Pretty amazing video! Thanks for sharing!!" ]
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I found a home video of Space Shuttle Columbia launching in April, 1998, filmed from a plane. I recorded this when I was 10 years old.
https://youtu.be/MsuuiVzS6Js
/r/videos/comments/rmvm3s/bob_mortimers_theft_and_shrubbery_would_i_lie_to/
[ "His other stories on that show are all gold! I believe there is a compilation on YouTube I would encourage everyone to check out if you like this video.", "Chris Rea and the egg in the bath has me in stitches. Ripping an apple in half with his bare hands. Doing haircuts during the World Cup in Spain. Steve Bytheway. I can just watch them over and over.", "The \"sniper's dream\" always cracks me up!", "They're all so funny, and I get a kick out of David Mitchell's reaction every time, \"Of course it's true!!!\"", "Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5WhtXgjFHKo2W2XTS5WyYXw4x1OD4UWq", "I think this joke is so good it has found a place in pop culture.", "Gary Cheeseman was a big lad, you know? A big head. Sniper's Dream, they used to call him. A good friend of Neal Overall, Jerry Dungaree's son.", "Bob is a national treasure and I say that with utter conviction despite the fact I am not from the UK.", "I’m cumming in your garden.", "Not to forget doing his own dentistry.", "Watched the compilations so many times and snipers dream gets me every time lol", "\"Fingerprints on an abandoned handrail\" is an excellent quote that lives rent-free in my head", "TLDW: it's true", "Would I lie to you isn’t really about whether the stories are true, its more of a conversation starter to get everyone bantering", "Check out season 5 of Taskmaster for more Bob Mortimer love too, he's fantastic there.", "Yes! I have seen that, and it's great. He's just a naturally funny person. Appreciate the recommendation though!", "I could watch Bon Mortimer and David Mitchell on this show on a 24 hour loop and love every minute.", "Louder for the hearing impaired.", "Didn’t take his father’s name, then?", "Hated him.", "He is like the antitheses to David Mitchells rational mind. The one with Chris Rea and the egg in the bath is the best example. Thats why he is always on Lees team.\n\nBob Mortimer, Henning Wehn and that horse story from Kevin Bridges is probably the best bits from Would I lie to you.", "Yes those are classic. I just rewatched the Kevin Bridges one about renting the horse...so funny!", "Bob is the type of guy that I could see myself drinking a few beers with and listening with a childlike glee to all of his stories! Such an awesome comedian and the main reason for me to start watching shows like \"Taskmaster\" and \"Would I lie to you\".\n\nSorry for any mistakes in my english.", "Thank you for that.\n\nI love his story telling.", "Don't apologize for your English, it was great!", "this frucking line omg so funny", "it will join expressions like \"tears in the rain\"", "Thanks!", "seen these so many times they are like ritual healing.", "I know, it was meant as a joke on the tldw format", "I'm surprised more people don't rip apples in half. I do it all the time. The best part, other than the reactions of others, is that the apple pieces don't turn brown, so you can easily save the other half for quite a while.", "I haven’t seen it haha glad it was posted" ]
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Bob Mortimer's Theft and Shrubbery - Would I Lie to You?
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rmvy81/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/rmvy81/deleted_by_user/
[ "\"...leave the theater like a rapist from a crime scene\" ?? Damn. Setting aside the poor taste of that metaphor, that seems backwards if the moviegoers are the victims of a bad movie.", "It's a great movie.", "Not according to the review you posted." ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/PZtOC-sANi4
/r/videos/comments/rmw1hg/why_alan_rickman_is_so_good_in_die_hard/
[ "Has Alan Rickman ever had a poor performance? Amazing actor. Delightful voice. Sadly died way to young. RIP. I hope he has access to as many spoons as he needs.", "This was a good dive into how Alan Rickman inhabited the character.", "Not only that, he seems to steal the show in everything he was ever in.", "I think he and Karl were boyfriends and I won’t hear any other interpretations.", "I'm the pope and I hereby declare this canon.", "He only agreed to be in Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves if he could play up the role the way he wanted. He's considered one of the best things in the film because of it.", "I don’t know Karl was real broken up by the dead guy McClane put in the elevator.", "His brother?", "That was his brother I think?! \n\nHans was like, aw Karl babes sorry about your bro", "Oh well I guess that reinforces the Karl x Hans relationship since Hans was the most supportive for him.", "Ty yes I agree :D" ]
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Why Alan Rickman is so good in Die Hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTf2EUittZw
/r/videos/comments/rmwk1q/santa_habibi/
[ "I got a chuckle.\n\nSurprised he didn’t translate yellah (hurry, when he was talking about the chimney).", "The holiday song I didn't know I needed...", "Pokelaws made a meme song in English with that also included the lyrics \"Yallah habibi\". \n\nI know nothing about Arabic, it just seems similar. I guess it's one of those phrases, like \"habibi\", that people like to leave in the original language when speaking English.\n\nThe song is kind of a banger:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr8kaR-crlU", "I used to work in egyot, I thought yallah was more rare.", "I needed this today", "Bring choobez pls", "Why did I find this so entertaining", "Unlimited hummus sounds fantastic", "An unlimited hummus fountain sounds like a monkey paw wish. At first it's a fun novelty at your party, but it will never stop. It fills all the worlds valley's and oceans. After a million years it would suck in the sun and create a black hole.", "Unlimited but able to be shut off or turned on at your convenience. You gotta lawyer up before you make a wish.", "The facial expressions and dancing really elevated it for me, was definitely a fun find. I might add this to my yearly playlist right alongside Froggy Fresh and his banger \"Christmas\"", "He's got a nice voice", "haha funniest thing i heard all day", "https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3456\n\n>Narrated Abu Sa`id:\n\n>The Prophet (ﷺ) said, \"You will follow the wrong ways, of your predecessors so completely and literally that if they should go into the hole of a lizard, you too will go there.\" We said, \"O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Do you mean the Jews and the Christians?\" He replied, \"Whom else?\" (Meaning, of course, the Jews and the Christians.)\n\nBukhari 3456", "ELI5: why is it funny to celebrate the excess wealth of what has been purported to be an incredibly oppressive group of people? I mean, I get it, this is a parody of the original which was about some snotty materialistic cunt, but — oh nevermind... it's the holidays. Enjoy.\n\nEDIT — to be clear: I don't agree with the below bigoted asshole. I have no issue with Saudi people (there are many who live in poverty and could probably benefit greatly from a regime that does not take very good care of them).", "Yeah the first few seconds turned me off to the whole video… I also don’t connect with the cultural/language shit so now I just feel like a racist asshole… but I still hate saudis", "Honestly better no to at this point. \n\nThe world being destroyed by Hummous is pretty much the good ending at this point", "Because satire works extremely well as humour.", "The heat death of the universe, the freezing death of the universe, and the new bonus contender: *hummus death.*", "I wish santa habibi would bring you a windscreen and de-esser" ]
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Santa Habibi
https://youtu.be/JIJaabPylmI
/r/videos/comments/rmwon8/want_to_know_what_happens_when_fire_hits_such_a/
[ "Yes this is what happens when you use combustible materials in the exterior.", "I watched the video and I still want to know what happens.", "It burns up.", "OP forgot to post the full video I guess? \n\nRight OP?\n\nOP?" ]
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Want to know what happens when fire hits such a high residential building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUr7fu-LXj4
/r/videos/comments/rmx8zl/after_23_takes_dick_van_dyke_called_this_the/
[ "Between the music, the choreography, and the humour of it all...this clip always makes me smile. Van Dyke is incredible!", "Jesus, that's a lot of people doing high risk moves in tandem. So many moves that require so much precision.", "This one of my top ten favorite scenes in film.\n\nDick is so charming and really seems to be having fun.", "Absolutely! Never mind the athleticism required by all these blokes.", "His smile is endearing 🙂", "There's so much stuff going on at once, from different directions, and in quick succession, it's no surprise to hear that.\n\nI only ever watched that movie due to Seth McFarlane's references in Family Guy. I enjoyed it and recommend it if you haven't seen it.", "Old timey TV was really something. They really beat their bodies to shit back then.", "I wonder whether the hat falling off at the end was intentional or an accident.\n\nBecause he looked surprised at the end but his hat falling off actually makes him stand out more so it works really well.", "A bag of weed, a bag of weed. Everything’s better with a bag of weed.", "[hat falls off]\n\n\"CUT! Start at the top.\"", "I also noticed that he puts his hat on backwards around the 1:02 mark. Wonder if that was intentional!", "Dick Van Dyke is a national treasure!", "I never had a problem with my old bamboo", "Sally Ann Howes, who played Truly Scrumptious in the movie, died yesterday at the age of 91.", "23 takes and he still can't dance in sync with the others, such a shame...", "After so many takes, you would think he would've done better. It's like he doesn't even know the moves!", "Okay, you got me.", "Yes I heard! That's what made me look up some movie scenes.", "oohhh.....\n\nso this is where family guy got the \"bag of weed\" scene from... \n\nJump to 20secs:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK8fAUlqbow", "Literally sitting through the video thinking \"Why do I know the tune?\" Hit me half way in. LOL", "Omg I had no idea this existed. 😂", "They got that in 23 takes? That's impressive in itself! I nearly had a heart attack just watching it.", "kickin' it old school! \n\nslightly on/off topic, with how k-pop has gained global recognition, I'm surprise that there hasn't been a big musical movie with catchy songs and synchronized dancing yet.", "If you like this... check out \"mr booze\"... they did that one too.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-WbYZLdxLA\n\noriginal:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjFyX2sSTGs", "May I introduce you to Bollywood?", "Was it the neck twirl? I bet it was the neck twirl. Seems like a hard move, especially to do exactly on the beat.\n\nI also love the old tv rules that say that if someone is in a dance number everything else has to let it finish. Mean old guy looking for Dick has to stop if he's dancing. Those are the rules.", "Totally looks like Jackie Chan at the end 3:23", "This is my favorite scene from Roma", "[ **Jump to 03:23 @** Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968) - Me Ol' Bam-Boo Scene (4/12) | Movieclips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUr7fu-LXj4&t=0h3m23s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Movieclips, Video Length: [03:42])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUr7fu-LXj4&t=0h3m18s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "The Dick Van Dyke Show is available to stream on Hulu. The combination of Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore together was the most talent there has ever been in a duo on TV or film.", "Nope. No way Eorl with the bad haircut would have waited that long.", "The very last time he jumped over his own bamboo was pretty close to a fail. :O", "Awww doll on a music box....", "\"Dancer number six! Did you say 'bam-bloo'?! Jesus Christ, PLACES PEOPLE!\"", "I saw a video where Dick talked about how every take someone would miss that jump! One of the reasons why they had to do so many takes.", "A bag of weed, a bag of weed, well everything is better with a bag of weed!", "I’m not into musicals or much of older movies.. but I watched this entire thing and was blown away. This is simply amazing!", "My thoughts as well. First thought, 23? How bad could it be? Then, only 23???", "Also being \"out of timing\"", "You should hear the guy's cockney accent in that flying housekeeper movie. Total hack.\n\n/s", "Thank for sharing that it was so fun to see!", "I didn't actually know the reference song before today, I know of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang but never watched it. But Family Guy makes an A+ reference again, where I know the song from when it aired probably 13 years ago.\n\n[https://youtu.be/jK8fAUlqbow](https://youtu.be/jK8fAUlqbow)", "Literally just posted this. That show got worst after high school, but the more I explore older pop culture the better it gets. \n\n\nIf only I appreciated Conway Twitty I might find it funnier", "I used to torture my Welsh girlfriend singing songs and quotations from Mary Poppins with Dick’s accent.", "From one of my favorites, [Robin and the Seven Hoods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_and_the_7_Hoods)!", "**[Robin and the 7 Hoods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_and_the_7_Hoods)** \n \n >Robin and the 7 Hoods is a 1964 American musical film directed by Gordon Douglas and starring Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., and Bing Crosby. The picture features Peter Falk, Barbara Rush, and an uncredited Edward G. Robinson. Written by David R. Schwartz, the film transplants the Robin Hood legend to a 1920s Chicago gangster setting, though this story's utterly opportunistic Marian is very different from the faithful Maid Marian of the original legend.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "Dick Van Dyke was 42 or 43 in this movie.", "You missed that one coin that was thrown at you...Start from the TOP!", "Yeah! Probably 10-15 years older than any of the other dancers.", "I think he did that to put the flower on the front, because he was referencing a lady?", "Insane, it's like a prank for dancers how many traps there are for mistakes to be made.", "I guarantee the majority of those dancers are gay. Openly, probably not, but gay yes", "That's a life hack. If there's a mean old guy looking for dick chasing you, find your nearest cabaret.", "Family Guy also [did a version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ3SWFy57dw) of Gilbert and Sullivan's [\"I've got a little list\"](https://youtu.be/6URZJ31bwv4?t=227) from the Mikado.", "/r/woosh", "Another classic Family Guy adaptation was Shipoopi from The Music Man. \n\n[Shipoopi](https://youtu.be/9Jj622vbrrU)\n\n[Peter Griffin Showboating as a short-timer with the New England Patriots](https://youtu.be/9Jj622vbrrU)", "A flying, floating, magical car. Also a young Stave Carrell as a child-catcher.", "I noticed they have sticks of bamboo. Do you think this was on purpose?", "I noticed they have sticks of bamboo. Do you think this was on purpose?", "The film is absolute charming insanity honestly. It's a car called Chitty Chitty bang bang and they end up being kidnapped by the King of some made up countries spies in an airship. The car starts to fucking fly and chases the airship back to wherever it's from and they basically topple a goverment.\n\nIf you know/have seen the old Mary Poppins it's a lot like that", "Seth McFarlane is *really* into musicals, it's brilliant. [Here he is](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfoTmiWsfD0) singing a classic from *The Music Man* (that inspired the Monorail song in the Simpsons, incidentally)", "I feel like the hardest part is keeping out of time with everyone else. When you're a dancer or musician you naturally WANT to be in step or time with everyone around you so to break yourself of that for this bit must have been really difficult.", "I wonder what kind of life a Hollywood dancer had back then." ]
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After 23 takes, Dick Van Dyke called this "the hardest dance number I ever did". Me Old Bamboo!