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"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest."
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This is the beginning of the end for China.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?"
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Are they counting the people in the camps?
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China."
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Maybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.
|
[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?"
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Demographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths."
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Maybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York
|
[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic."
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The guy on JRE told us
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York"
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Japan 2: Electric Boogaloo
Back in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.
Edit:wording
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us"
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Japan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.
In any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.
A declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording"
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See what happens when you try to control birthing rights?
So where China is short,
Americans will be plentiful.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story."
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"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful."
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"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice."
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Annexing Taiwan should fix this...
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\""
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Yes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this..."
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Yay!
The world is insanely overpopulated!
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too."
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But you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!"
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They were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything.
|
[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame."
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If they give enough money you could.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.",
">\n\nThey were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything."
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Remember when people were worried about robots taking their jobs? Those robots are a solution.
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"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.",
">\n\nThey were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything.",
">\n\nIf they give enough money you could."
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It’s a bit scary to think how this will affect economic growth and the stock market. The most common answer that I receive is that we’ll make such progress in technology that we’ll see immense productivity gains. I’m a little skeptical that will be enough. I’m afraid that we’ll have very mediocre growth/returns over the next few decades. It might make retirement even more difficult.
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"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.",
">\n\nThey were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything.",
">\n\nIf they give enough money you could.",
">\n\nRemember when people were worried about robots taking their jobs? Those robots are a solution."
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Kinda bad because Xi answer will probably be nationalism and populism meaning a Taiwan focused conflict is closer instead of further away.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.",
">\n\nThey were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything.",
">\n\nIf they give enough money you could.",
">\n\nRemember when people were worried about robots taking their jobs? Those robots are a solution.",
">\n\nIt’s a bit scary to think how this will affect economic growth and the stock market. The most common answer that I receive is that we’ll make such progress in technology that we’ll see immense productivity gains. I’m a little skeptical that will be enough. I’m afraid that we’ll have very mediocre growth/returns over the next few decades. It might make retirement even more difficult."
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Well damn, looks like China is bat-ting an eye.
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.",
">\n\nThey were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything.",
">\n\nIf they give enough money you could.",
">\n\nRemember when people were worried about robots taking their jobs? Those robots are a solution.",
">\n\nIt’s a bit scary to think how this will affect economic growth and the stock market. The most common answer that I receive is that we’ll make such progress in technology that we’ll see immense productivity gains. I’m a little skeptical that will be enough. I’m afraid that we’ll have very mediocre growth/returns over the next few decades. It might make retirement even more difficult.",
">\n\nKinda bad because Xi answer will probably be nationalism and populism meaning a Taiwan focused conflict is closer instead of further away."
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Let's hurry adopt all the Chinese babies so they have less. Lol
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"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.",
">\n\nThey were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything.",
">\n\nIf they give enough money you could.",
">\n\nRemember when people were worried about robots taking their jobs? Those robots are a solution.",
">\n\nIt’s a bit scary to think how this will affect economic growth and the stock market. The most common answer that I receive is that we’ll make such progress in technology that we’ll see immense productivity gains. I’m a little skeptical that will be enough. I’m afraid that we’ll have very mediocre growth/returns over the next few decades. It might make retirement even more difficult.",
">\n\nKinda bad because Xi answer will probably be nationalism and populism meaning a Taiwan focused conflict is closer instead of further away.",
">\n\nWell damn, looks like China is bat-ting an eye."
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[
"Welcome to the 5th stage of the demographic transition.",
">\n\nIronically, this is the first step that Russia and Eastern Europe, which were economically lagging behind, went through.",
">\n\nAll countries are going to go through this sooner or later - transition to a new demographic structure. For some it's well under way (see Italy, Spain, much of Eastern Europe).\nInterestingly, the historian Geoffrey Parker noted that the countries that did best in the environmental crisis of the 17th century were those with lower fertility.\nSince China (and India) face the massive challenge of large rural populations reliant on increasingly fragile water flows, this may - despite the personal tragedies involved - be more a long-term help than a curse.",
">\n\nGet ready for more of this. China's demographics are atrocious, most of their population is retiring, their birth rates are bad, and it's not like they have any notable immigration to bolster it.\nThey are in for an interesting next couple of decades as the bulk of their population stops producing.",
">\n\nIndia will balance it out.",
">\n\nNo, India will likely only grow slightly, then flatline and slowly decline. Asian population supremacy will come to an end and will be replaced by Africa.",
">\n\nUnfortunately, all populations will flatline (love the wording) and massively decline.",
">\n\nIt's really going to fuck up all economies especially with growing health care costs and aging populations. Imo our only hopes are building robots and really understanding how the body and medicines work; including extending longevity and not simply age. Of course robots that replace humans will also probably mess up even more.",
">\n\nForgive me for being ignorant here, but I do want to be educated in the subject. Anyway I thought a declining population would be a good thing, long-term, for economies? Wouldn't it reduce the need to feed, home, provide healthcare to people? Less food production might mean lower CO2 emissions in those fields (no pun intended), fewer clothes being made means that we reduce the amount of single-use materials being used and thrown away, etc. \nI know that there is the big issue of caring for the elderly when you don't have the peoplepower to do so, but other than that obviously huge social issue, is it really detrimental to the economy? Again I'm not picking holes or being stubborn here, I just want to learn more.",
">\n\nDeclining populations have an increasingly inverted demographic pyramid - more old people, less young people. This adds additional pressure on the working population (i.e., the younger people) as they, a shrinking population, care for a continually growing population of older people. More of the economy has to shift to the care of the old population, reducing economic growth and advancement (caring for the elderly is not very productive from a scientific standpoint). These pressures compound stress on the younger population, reducing birthrates and creating a positive feedback loop of less young people and more old people. Pension systems designed to run in high ratios of workers to retirees will collapse, and healthcare systems will strain under the weight of elderly needing care before breaking entirely.\nIn the long run, the population should bottom out and reach an equilibrium. I say should because we don’t know - no population has ever reached that point, though the East Asian nations (South Korea, Japan, and China) are quickly charting a course in that direction and will be the first to reach there followed by the elderly Europeans (notably Germany and Italy). But the path there is grim with the potential or probable risk of public infrastructure collapse and economic stagnation (at best), and every country is doing as much as they can to avoid it from child subsidies (Koreans and Japanese favor this method to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars) to immigration (western developed countries choose this method).\nIf human civilization somehow manages to land at a 2.1 aggregate total fertility rate with a smaller population after all of this, then yes, the environmental effects would probably be positive (less people = less consumption) and the economy would even out with a reasonable ratio of workers to elderly. However, the problem is getting to that ideal equilibrium state, and no one’s exactly sure if that’s possible.",
">\n\nThis is a great answer, but there are also a bunch of other things that make population decline a bad thing.",
">\n\nGovernment debt and the stock market both rely on endless population growth. People criticize the \"endless growth\" mindset of Wall Street but deflation is worse. People will not invest in stocks when they start deflating. And everything is invested in the stock market in some way. If you have a pension or 401K, you are invested in the stock market. \nSome people would argue that we should \"find a new economic model\" but good luck with that.",
">\n\nYeah, I typed out like a 1000 word essay about mostly this and then deleted it because I didn't want to get anything wrong and figured no one would read it anyways.",
">\n\nWell, not getting above 1.5 billion is not a bad thing. India would have overtaken China anyway soon.",
">\n\nThe UN projected that in 2022 India would surpass China in population. I don’t think the figures are in yet, but yea… 2022 or maybe this year.",
">\n\nYou mean creating an artificial 30 million+ surplus of men was a bad idea?",
">\n\nTime for a 15 million gay couple revolution.",
">\n\nBack to the pile",
">\n\nLooks like Peter Ziehan is right, shit this last year has been just a Peter Ziehan book come to life",
">\n\nI've been following him for a while. Despite seemingly crazy prophetic claims, his are always baked in statistics and have been absolutely spot on for years... especially ramping up since the Ukraine events.",
">\n\nPredicted to the week Putin invaded.\nDudes so intelligent. Finding him has made world politics and local politics way less complicated. I’m probably more on the fence and neutral then I ever have been.",
">\n\nWas it to the week? \nI only knew it was to the year which is spooky in itself.",
">\n\nmandatory 5 children policy coming soon. not married? yeah you are. we choose for you.",
">\n\nFrom the usual mix of uninformed shit posting I've been reading it's far too late to start that in China. Supposedly they are heading for a collapse in the number of workers in around 10 years.",
">\n\nThat would blunt it a little but still leaves a giant demographic bomb. If everyone works until 70 that means kids born today will be 20, just about covering the gap if China also experiences a massive birth rate increase in the next 5 years.\nSo, solvable, but very urgent at this point.",
">\n\nI think the question is how would older Chinese people (in their 50s) feel about the retirement age going up from 60 to 70 seemingly overnight…? Countries have recently been raising the retirement age, but it’s always been by a couple of years and never so dramatic.",
">\n\nI never got the impression China is particularly bothered by those kinds of questions. I think the fact they gave into public pressure to 360 their covid policy is very interesting and I wonder if it reflects the beginnings of a shift toward a less strident society.",
">\n\nAm I the only one who actually wants the population to go down? I don't just mean China. But everywhere.",
">\n\nThe concerns with a decreasing population almost always relate to capitalist economic goals. This is a gimme for helping fight climate change. we should focus on transitioning to a more sustainable structure that supports a smaller population. Instead, governments are panicking because workforce workforce workforce !",
">\n\nThose things are related. In the states, which fits to the healthcare concerns you have, the social security trust is financed by the workforce and employers. I am a millennial. I’m 30 years old with no kids my sister is 34 with no kids. I have lots of friends our age who do not want kids. Gen z are even less willing to bring kids into this world, in large part because of climate change, legitimate fears about growth of the far right globally and real fears of nuclear war. Oh and also the fact that costs continue to increase while non-salaried wages consistently fail to provide a living wage. Nothing is going to change the fact we just do not want to bring kids into this world. if countries want to adapt, they need to find solutions that address those problems or transition to a different societal structure",
">\n\nWe are discussing issues related to countries with declining birth rates and the related factors, which are absolutely relevant. You mentioned systems where population decline impacts healthcare for the elderly. That isn’t the structure in Nigeria. You are incredibly rude and self-righteous and it’s gross you would make a comment like your last sentence to anyone. I hope you can go to therapy and work through whatever compels you to make comments like that.",
">\n\nIn official “record”. You can check on their COVID death “record” to see how trustworthy an document produced by the Chinese government is.",
">\n\nDoesn’t stop their state sponsored garbage from hitting the top of r/economics or many other subs like r/Space",
">\n\nChina will eventually fall to under a billion people, falling well short of the world power status they crave and never quite recovering. It will be interesting to see where they land. They'll still be a huge regional power, but India will eclipse them.\nA few reasons:\n- Disastrous one child policy\n- Culturally favouring men over women so a huge population of single Chinese men\n- Women not wanting to marry and be house wives, instead choosing education and a social life\n- Being a huge producer of products but also having to import almost everything to make it all - this simply isn't sustainable with a workforce in decline\n- Non sustainable agricultural practices - again having to import far more than they produce\n- Hugely inflated property market and massive debts",
">\n\nThis would be interesting to witness in my lifetime. As a smaller and weaker (militarily) neighbor of China, I'd be rejoicing at the news of a tamer and lamer China. Right now they're just bullies in the region because they're a resource hungry country.",
">\n\nNo one likes bullies! \nDepending on how old you are - you will see some of the decline of China for sure. Manufacturing and production will go to other countries, Xi will go down, India will rise up. One problem will be that smaller cities and other ethnic groups in China will suffer while Han Chinese try to consolidate.",
">\n\nDo you mean getting rid of all the girls was a bad idea?\n:O",
">\n\nSeriously, how did the Chinese Communist party not immediately realize a 1 child policy would have terrible long-term consequences? A 2 child policy would of been a great balance",
">\n\nChina's will drop but India's and Africa's will continue rising.",
">\n\nEveryone's will drop and decrease soon.",
">\n\nYeah, most models show us peaking around 2050 globally",
">\n\nThat’s right around when I will also be dead. You’re welcome.",
">\n\nThank you for your sacrifice.",
">\n\nThat's a good thing with their overpopulation, isn't it? This was the whole point of the One Child Policy.",
">\n\nYes and no. So much of the financial system is essentially a Ponzi scheme relying on young people to pay for old. A lower replacement rate brings up new problems like workforce implications",
">\n\nBut all of that can be evened out by laxing immigration policies. It's just a matter of the individual governments overcoming xenophobic tendencies to make it happen.",
">\n\nEven if they relax their immigration policy who would want to move there? Foreigners will not like the lack of basic civil rights and businesses do not want to be strictly regulated by the government.",
">\n\none-child policy plus a patriarchal form of communism are major contributors.\nIt cannot be emphasized enough that the style of communism they follow(ed) designates a woman maintaining the home and a man gaining inheritance and caring for their elderly parents.\nRemember hearing about all those newborn daughters being killed or shipped overseas for adoption?\nThat's how you get a disproportionate male to female ratio in China.\nAdd a pandemic and those elders are now gone. \nGood luck China, you have a large population of horny men with limited romantic options.",
">\n\nNot to mention, the difficulty of finding mistresses for successful party leaders and businessmen.",
">\n\nWere the indians that effective with their sticks on the border?",
">\n\nEasy fix, just stop reporting the number or lie about it, and ban anyone who raises the issue online. Change a few numbers on the history books and official databases. That should fix the problem.",
">\n\nIronic, since the original numbers in regards to their population figures are directly from China.",
">\n\nIf you want to know the real number of covid deaths in China from the start of pandemic, just look how their population declines.",
">\n\nFor people that claim to only hate the \"chinese goverment, not the people\", these people do sound like they are very gleeful over negative news affecting the general populace.",
">\n\nReddit has this problem. They do the same when bad news comes out from Saudi or Russia.",
">\n\nIf they were happy at this news because its a step towards preventing 'overpopulation' then they should be appalled at Indias or Africas everbooming population.",
">\n\nTends to happen when you systematically destroy ethnic minorities...",
">\n\nLower birth rates in higher income countries is completely normal. It’s simply a sign of China’s growth.",
">\n\nThey had a one child policy for decades and only recently got rid of it. China would probably have 2 billion people if they hadn't.",
">\n\nCorrection, China would of spent 3 decades in semi continous famine if they hadn't.\nThat was the biggest motivator for it back in the 80s, they were struggling to feed the existing population and the projections scared the life out of them.",
">\n\nCan't put children in sweatshops if there are no children. Also, being in a sweatshop as a child probably makes it hard to find a partner.",
">\n\nI think Chinese kids have long passed the sweatshop kind of era.\nYou think it's India or something?",
">\n\nChild labor is still a massive problem in China",
">\n\nMainland Taiwan's gonna have an age crisis.",
">\n\nThis will make them dangerous because they might think to invade now when they're at their strongest.",
">\n\nAnd kill more of their young people?",
">\n\nThis is the beginning of the end for China.",
">\n\nAre they counting the people in the camps?",
">\n\nMaybe it’s from all the COVID deaths.",
">\n\nDemographers think this shrinkage point was actually hit in 2018, but it was obscured due to faulty data. So, pre-pandemic.",
">\n\nMaybe Desantis and Abbott should start sending illegal immigrants to China instead of New York",
">\n\nThe guy on JRE told us",
">\n\nJapan 2: Electric Boogaloo\nBack in the day there was great fear about the rising economic miracle that was Japan and its rising influence…until demographics came a calling and the Birthrate cratered. Now they are more stagnant, almost to the point that they suffer from too little inflation in their economy due to not enough activity.\nEdit:wording",
">\n\nJapan’s bubble economy bursting, and the decades of deflation, had literally zilch to do with the birth rate. It had to do with over-valuation of the yen, driven by speculators, severely impacting the export market. Japan’s economy wasn’t under-producing - it was over-producing.\nIn any case, in real terms the population only started to decline in 2010 - almost a full two decades after the bubble popped.\nA declining population has severe ramifications for the country’s economic future, and there’s reason to be worried - but Japan’s late twentieth-century economic woes is not that story.",
">\n\nSee what happens when you try to control birthing rights?\nSo where China is short, \nAmericans will be plentiful.",
">\n\nNot a right if you don't have a choice.",
">\n\nhence \"control\"",
">\n\nAnnexing Taiwan should fix this...",
">\n\nYes. Sending more people to garrison Taiwan will help. Export some to Africa too.",
">\n\nYay!\nThe world is insanely overpopulated!",
">\n\nBut you don't count toward that overpopulation, right? Everyone else is to blame.",
">\n\nThey were a bit late in changing their one child policy to two in 2016, and then three in 2021. Their birth rate has continued to plunge despite the changes so I doubt that increasing to four, five, and six while do anything.",
">\n\nIf they give enough money you could.",
">\n\nRemember when people were worried about robots taking their jobs? Those robots are a solution.",
">\n\nIt’s a bit scary to think how this will affect economic growth and the stock market. The most common answer that I receive is that we’ll make such progress in technology that we’ll see immense productivity gains. I’m a little skeptical that will be enough. I’m afraid that we’ll have very mediocre growth/returns over the next few decades. It might make retirement even more difficult.",
">\n\nKinda bad because Xi answer will probably be nationalism and populism meaning a Taiwan focused conflict is closer instead of further away.",
">\n\nWell damn, looks like China is bat-ting an eye.",
">\n\nLet's hurry adopt all the Chinese babies so they have less. Lol"
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This is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, "they did it to us, so we will do it to them."
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What I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists
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The Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists"
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Fuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. "Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it."
Anybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword."
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Boomers have a "both sides" fetish and need to go.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective."
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'need to go' in what sense?
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go."
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Retire. We need young fighters.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?"
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Well we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way.
I’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters."
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That's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder."
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I would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds."
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And I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ."
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That is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop
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"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on."
] |
>
But I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop"
] |
>
Odd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse..."
] |
>
Odd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM...."
] |
>
And yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors..."
] |
>
I heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…"
] |
>
Paul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird."
] |
>
He is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG"
] |
>
Most people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar"
] |
>
Yeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's"
] |
>
I'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.
In any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse"
] |
>
True. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world."
] |
>
Fucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed"
] |
>
I blame the voters that put the gop there
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever."
] |
>
itty bitty brainy committee
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there"
] |
>
Was hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee"
] |
>
The House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border
Where she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee."
] |
>
Oh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.
I tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP"
] |
>
This was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s"
] |
>
It's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show."
] |
>
You are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun."
] |
>
Traitor
This video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the "coup in search of a legal theory".
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are."
] |
>
The worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\"."
] |
>
Like this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'"
] |
>
I can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection."
] |
>
To impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…"
] |
>
Considering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater."
] |
>
It’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such."
] |
>
MTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker."
] |
>
Of course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls."
] |
>
Sad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.
R or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue"
] |
>
Of course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.
Pay to play is the GOP way.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there."
] |
>
And people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way."
] |
>
We could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest."
] |
>
We have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be."
] |
>
Or even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better."
] |
>
That's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode."
] |
>
These people have Brawndo level IQs.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds."
] |
>
The committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs."
] |
>
There is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only "agenda" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…"
] |
>
You only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle."
] |
>
Awwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.
They were removed from committees for good reason.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian."
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>
There should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason."
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>
They all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members."
] |
>
The problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision."
] |
>
Just congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress."
] |
>
However during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.
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[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price."
] |
>
I was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people."
] |
>
The problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏"
] |
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If you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will."
] |
>
Her getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!"
] |
>
Her being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit"
] |
>
This is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit."
] |
>
Democracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long."
] |
>
Could always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it."
] |
>
Canada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though."
] |
>
Why not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country."
] |
>
My wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass.
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[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?"
] |
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Fair enough
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[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?",
">\n\nMy wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass."
] |
>
Hard to believe the USA has allowed Mr Trump to poison and dominate so much of the culture's consciousness. Soon we'll be at a decade.
Such poison...the longterm ramifications seem to grow by the day.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?",
">\n\nMy wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass.",
">\n\nFair enough"
] |
>
Reminds me of a trustee, where they let convicts have guns and run the prison.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?",
">\n\nMy wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass.",
">\n\nFair enough",
">\n\nHard to believe the USA has allowed Mr Trump to poison and dominate so much of the culture's consciousness. Soon we'll be at a decade.\nSuch poison...the longterm ramifications seem to grow by the day."
] |
>
The only republicans who don't know they are full of shit are the republican voters (and Jim Jordan).
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?",
">\n\nMy wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass.",
">\n\nFair enough",
">\n\nHard to believe the USA has allowed Mr Trump to poison and dominate so much of the culture's consciousness. Soon we'll be at a decade.\nSuch poison...the longterm ramifications seem to grow by the day.",
">\n\nReminds me of a trustee, where they let convicts have guns and run the prison."
] |
>
Gym knows exactly what breed of monster he is.
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?",
">\n\nMy wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass.",
">\n\nFair enough",
">\n\nHard to believe the USA has allowed Mr Trump to poison and dominate so much of the culture's consciousness. Soon we'll be at a decade.\nSuch poison...the longterm ramifications seem to grow by the day.",
">\n\nReminds me of a trustee, where they let convicts have guns and run the prison.",
">\n\nThe only republicans who don't know they are full of shit are the republican voters (and Jim Jordan)."
] |
>
Both of these people are too f** stupid to be on any sort of committee in our government, it's a sad, sad reflection on the United States
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?",
">\n\nMy wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass.",
">\n\nFair enough",
">\n\nHard to believe the USA has allowed Mr Trump to poison and dominate so much of the culture's consciousness. Soon we'll be at a decade.\nSuch poison...the longterm ramifications seem to grow by the day.",
">\n\nReminds me of a trustee, where they let convicts have guns and run the prison.",
">\n\nThe only republicans who don't know they are full of shit are the republican voters (and Jim Jordan).",
">\n\nGym knows exactly what breed of monster he is."
] |
>
Ok are we not going to acknowledge that George “I said I was Jew-ish” Santos got a committee assignment?
Someone probably paid big money to buy that spot
|
[
"\"Speaker Kevin McCarthy has long vowed to put Greene and Gosar back on committees, while he has pledged to kick some House Democrats off of theirs.\"\nThis is all about evening the score. There is nothing principled or moral about what they are doing. All it is, \"they did it to us, so we will do it to them.\"",
">\n\nWhat I actually hear: They did it to us for white supremacy and conspiracy theories, so where doing it to them for not letting us be white supremacists and conspiracy theorists",
">\n\nThe Democrats didn't even do it for that. They let that slide. The only committee removals came when Republicans threatened actual members of the House. Greene called for Pelosi to be executed, and Gosar posted a meme in which he killed AOC with a sword.",
">\n\nFuck the GOP, but boy if that doesn't perfectly encapsulate something that constantly pisses me off about way too many Democratic party members. \"Oh, you're saying and voting for stuff that explicitly threatens Americans from marginalized communities? I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter... Oh, now you're threatening me personally, ok, now I'll take it seriously and do something about it.\"\nAnybody who calls Republicans their friends like Biden does or says we need a strong Republican party like Pelosi does has been in DC too long and lost perspective.",
">\n\nBoomers have a \"both sides\" fetish and need to go.",
">\n\n'need to go' in what sense?",
">\n\nRetire. We need young fighters.",
">\n\nWell we need to see what that looks like first. I’ve been very disappointed with just about every politician born after 1980. If they’re not in it for the money/themselves? They have no idea what they’re doing & they’re ‘me! me! me!’ all the way. \nI’m not convinced any of these younger (especially right-wing) politicians are going to make any difference. Other than they’re crazier than ever and they scream louder.",
">\n\nThat's like putting the Hamburglar in charge of McDonalds.",
">\n\nI would be inclined to presume that the Hamburglar has a much higher IQ.",
">\n\nAnd I'd rather have a thief working for me than a saboteur. I can afford a few cheeesburgers. I can't afford to lose all of my customers because the grill never gets turned on.",
">\n\nThat is horrifying. Both are literal insurrectionists, on top of being incredibly racist, stupid and unbearable. Nice to see that treason is being rewarded in the gop",
">\n\nBut I was told it was just tourists and legitimate political discourse...",
">\n\nOdd, I was told that it was antifa and BLM....",
">\n\nOdd, I was told it was the FBI and the Capitol Police and crisis actors...",
">\n\nAnd yet those who were arrested are also political prisoners who should be pardoned…",
">\n\nI heard it was boisterous tourists. Weird.",
">\n\nPaul gosar is, somehow, more bigoted than MTG",
">\n\nHe is also physically unwell. I’m not being ableist here, in interviews there appears to be something seriously off about Gosar",
">\n\nMost people down here in Arizona assume it's Parkinson's, his office says all that you see, a very obvious illness of some variety, is back pain... But like i said the working theory down here is that it's Parkinson's",
">\n\nYeah, which doesn’t bar him from serving but he’s gotten much more unsteady over the past two years. Back pain actually seems worse to me, that ailment can be distracting and prone to opioid abuse",
">\n\nI'm not saying Parkinson's would be an automatic disqualifier but crippling debilitating diseases will continue to March on and eventually they won't be able to do their job.\nIn any event, the blatant and obvious lies to his constituents would be enough to vote him out of office in a sane world.",
">\n\nTrue. Also, I suspect he’s not medicated. My FIL has it and after medication he has improved a great deal. He still has shaky moments but they’ve gone down dramatically after he was diagnosed",
">\n\nFucking GOP has zero principles, zero commitment to helping the country. It is all about petty revenge and putting stupid people in power just to flex. Fuck them forever.",
">\n\nI blame the voters that put the gop there",
">\n\nitty bitty brainy committee",
">\n\nWas hoping they create a new committee for them called the ID10T committee.",
">\n\n\nThe House GOP Steering Committee on Tuesday agreed to place Greene on the House Homeland Security Committee, which has jurisdiction over the border\n\nWhere she will investigate the use of space lasers to secure the border, and rename CBP to GBP",
">\n\nOh, didn't you hear? About 10 days ago she said she had been caught up in conspiracy theories on the internet but that she no longer believes any of them. She even got a new hair and make up style so you know she's a Serious Politician.\nI tell you, she's a whole new woman. /s",
">\n\nThis was to be expected. This is going to be a two year shit show.",
">\n\nIt's already a shit show. The 2 years has begun.",
">\n\nYou are correct. It is an embarrassment. These morons should not be anywhere near Congress, but here we are.",
">\n\nTraitor\nThis video also reminds me that Ted Cruz hasn't gotten nearly enough shit for January 6th. He was instrumental to the \"coup in search of a legal theory\".",
">\n\nThe worst attempt in coup history if you ask me. Didn't even try to use the military. Wonder why those doors that can only open from the inside were magically opened and people were funneled in by security. Amazin'",
">\n\nLike this? Not every coup is a military coup. This coup used a number of illegal strategies including an armed insurrection.",
">\n\nI can’t believe MTG was assigned to the House Homeland Security Committee…",
">\n\nTo impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. He got that funny furren name that she can’t rightly spell and that there jes aint ‘Mercian. Also, theater.",
">\n\nConsidering they set precedence for ignoring congressional subpoenas with impunity and they're stonewalled by the senate and white house veto, the GOP house is a toothless animal and should be treated as such.",
">\n\nIt’s important for voters to fully realize that these two aren’t just bit actors in the Republican Party. They are the brains of the party, able to outmaneuver the Speaker.",
">\n\nMTG on Homeland Security. Gonna arm the Border Patrol and Coast Guard with Supply Side Jesus' Bibles and knockoff AKs. May God have mercy on our souls.",
">\n\nOf course they did. In this new Republican House™, having a background in antisemitism, white supremacy, stalking fellow colleagues and threatening to murder them, throwing down colleagues in the ladies room and shitposting on twitter are characteristics of trustworthiness and virtue",
">\n\nSad thing about removing from committees like Intelligence, is that you can't possibly replace a person who has been privy to all the hearings, read ins, meetings, and top secret briefings that a sitting member has.\nR or D, I'd rather have knowledgeable people onboard there.",
">\n\nOf course they get committee assignments, they bought them. It's government by the highest bidder.\nPay to play is the GOP way.",
">\n\nAnd people want to act like America isn't as much of a corrupt oligarchy as Russia. America is rotten to its core. The entire government is for sale whether you're a corporation or foreign interest.",
">\n\nWe could end most of the corruption with taxpayer funded campaigns. The elected officials would know who they answer to. Imagine how different our society would be.",
">\n\nWe have them in Connecticut for the state level races, but yeah our entire system is beyond needing an overhaul. Publicly funded campaigns, limits on the types of media/advertising, as well as a limit to campaign season to no more than 6-8 weeks before voting day. This is another instance where we can learn from Europe how to do something better.",
">\n\nOr even your Canadian neighbors. Our election cycles are a few weeks and advertising is very limited. Even when I was a little kid I remember thinking your system was fucked up. It’s like you’re always in campaign mode.",
">\n\nThat's one of the complaints of elected officials is they have to spend a lot of their time campaigning for their next election. I suspect some good candidates don't run because they don't want to have to raise the funds.",
">\n\nThese people have Brawndo level IQs.",
">\n\nThe committee to investigate the Jewish Space Lasers…",
">\n\nThere is no policy any more from the Republican party; their only \"agenda\" is hatred and revenge on Democrats. Nothing but contempt for the other side of the aisle.",
">\n\nYou only need to look at the recent “look at my gas stove, hopefully the FBI doesn’t raid my home” nonsense the right wing is spreading right now to see they really don’t care about anything beside being a contrarian.",
">\n\nAwwww, yall have fun with that inevitable mess.\nThey were removed from committees for good reason.",
">\n\nThere should at least be a minimum IQ requirement for congress members.",
">\n\nThey all need to do at least 3 major DMT trips before embarking on their corrupt career. Might clear their vision.",
">\n\nThe problem with most of them is they aren't qualified for anything. So naturally they gravitate to a place they need no work skills to achieve success. The GOP congress.",
">\n\nJust congress in general. They are all corrupt to the core. Don't let them fool you. My nor yours best interests are in their hearts. Everyone can be bought. Name your price.",
">\n\nHowever during the 117th the Dems accomplished a LOT. And it would have been even more if not for Manchin and Sinema. So a bunch of the democrats in congress do something zero GOP'ers in congress will do. Work for the American people.",
">\n\nI was delusional at one point too believing in Congress. I wish you to be awaken from your dream, young one. God speed 🙏",
">\n\nThe problem with congress is the lack of young people voting. Apathy won't fix anything. Electing progressives will.",
">\n\nIf you’re crazy, bigoted, and an election denying insurrectionist sympathizer, just run as a Republican! You’ll be made!",
">\n\nHer getting added to the homeland security committee is absolute horseshit",
">\n\nHer being anywhere near congress is absolute horseshit.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when Politicians are above the law. The DOJ had been sitting on their ass for far too long.",
">\n\nDemocracy in the US had a nice run. I'm going to miss it.",
">\n\nCould always go to south America and live out your best life. Good luck though.",
">\n\nCanada is more my jam. I lived there for several years as a kid. I can go to brazil pretty easily but that doesn't seem to be the best idea right now. I'll stay here and watch these idiots try their best to destroy our country.",
">\n\nWhy not Brazil? Are you a bigot? I admire it, you want to embrace the suck that's coming this way. Will you be able to determine who's on your side when political ideologies are not so apparent?",
">\n\nMy wife was born in brazil actually :) I hate the heat too so i'll pass.",
">\n\nFair enough",
">\n\nHard to believe the USA has allowed Mr Trump to poison and dominate so much of the culture's consciousness. Soon we'll be at a decade.\nSuch poison...the longterm ramifications seem to grow by the day.",
">\n\nReminds me of a trustee, where they let convicts have guns and run the prison.",
">\n\nThe only republicans who don't know they are full of shit are the republican voters (and Jim Jordan).",
">\n\nGym knows exactly what breed of monster he is.",
">\n\nBoth of these people are too f** stupid to be on any sort of committee in our government, it's a sad, sad reflection on the United States"
] |
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