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Finnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.
I think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.
Also, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient."
] |
>
Heh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse."
] |
>
They do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform."
] |
>
It may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal"
] |
>
it‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.
They also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform."
] |
>
The thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised"
] |
>
Where I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it."
] |
>
Please inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design."
] |
>
Thank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in."
] |
>
If you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them."
] |
>
You may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do."
] |
>
Just to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know."
] |
>
That sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities."
] |
>
No worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol"
] |
>
Always welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!"
] |
>
No worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything"
] |
>
This series of comments makes me smile.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up."
] |
>
Spoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile."
] |
>
Cable was out
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray."
] |
>
Why do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out"
] |
>
I was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?"
] |
>
The "thin blue line" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.
It's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”"
] |
>
Never saw it used like that.
It has always been an "us against them" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.
It's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.
The origin was a reporter writing of a battle:
During the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854.
Their commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it."
] |
>
That may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.”
Which, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”."
] |
>
“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that."
] |
>
Yes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?"
] |
>
Good. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV."
] |
>
Nothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol"
] |
>
While you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical "good cop" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism."
] |
>
I think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings."
] |
>
In this instance both these interpretations are valid.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists."
] |
>
I guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid."
] |
>
Any alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”."
] |
>
Just to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service."
] |
>
They're specifically not talking about private citizens.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?"
] |
>
I hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to "the flag" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens."
] |
>
"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the "Thin Blue Line Flag" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.
I agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other "extremist groups" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same "values".
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes."
] |
>
""It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the "Thin Blue Line Flag" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views."
You mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\"."
] |
>
I mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?"
] |
>
For everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their "X" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?"
] |
>
May as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism."
] |
>
They should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose."
] |
>
The police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside."
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>
How about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?
No group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes."
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>
Nothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives."
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The oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place."
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Desecration of the flag!
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all"
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I wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!"
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The only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag."
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And even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them."
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While we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it"
] |
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I'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags"
] |
>
I remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes."
] |
>
It's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect."
] |
>
I feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team"
] |
>
Flag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!
|
[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons"
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The complainant said, "Wait a minute, that worked?"
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!"
] |
>
I'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:
"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the "Thin Blue Line Flag" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The "Thin Blue Line Flag" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values," Moore said in a statement.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\""
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Thin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement."
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And with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed."
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The thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.
I prefer cops not be criminals…
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore."
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The state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…"
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Yes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things "patriotic", they sure do desecrate the flag often.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones."
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We have actual wraps on our police cars….
A video of said blue line wrap
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often."
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Oh barf
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap"
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf"
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…"
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From the article:
""It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the "Thin Blue Line Flag""
Errrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on "nottheonion"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸"
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The surprising thing is that the complaint worked.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing."
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Police flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.
Idc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag?
Wow, that's flagrant.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked."
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Good. Fuck that racist shit.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant."
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To me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit."
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lol
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist."
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If only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol"
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Government agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all"
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I like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty
“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”
And that was back in ‘20
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve."
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First time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called "A Thin White Line." Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20"
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Fake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point."
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The LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?
I'm fucking shocked.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag"
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Not as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked."
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I assume people are part of a cult when I see it now
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing."
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The thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now"
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Flag of a police state.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag."
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Good. It's unamerican.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state."
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This first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these "Real Americans" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican."
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To me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else."
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The police brutality flag is not a great look these days.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it."
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Good, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days."
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It's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag."
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Nazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline."
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It's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs."
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code."
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB"
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Any modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good"
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Can we just talk about Rampart?
Wait.
For a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?"
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That symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence"
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Cops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?
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[
"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists."
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This doesn't belong on this sub.
The Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.
It is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: "citizens," police, and "criminals."
It's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.
This sub is a "this shit can't be made up"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?"
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And generally criminals ARE citizens.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard."
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TIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens."
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